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♪ (DRAMATIC MUSIC PLAYS) ♪

SARAH EDMONSON:
I'm the front page of
the New York Times.

All of a sudden,
the whole world knows.

I'm hoping the authorities
will take another look.

WOMAN: I hope so too.

KRISTIN KEEFFE:
I gave up making millions
to help build the company.

During my nine years there,

there were 12 women
he was intimate with.

I held a forum.

WOMAN 2: There were nine women
who wanted to confront Keith.

We all resigned.

We wrote our resignation letter
asking for money

that was owed to us.

This is extortion.
We are filing criminal charges.

WOMAN 2: They said that
I had done

all of these crimes
against them.

So I had to defend all of those.

CATHERINE OXENERG:
I just spoke to Frank Parlato.

MAN:

CATHERINE: This is
my last resort,

going to the media,

and unless there's outrage,
the authorities are not gonna

step in and do what
they should do,

which is shut this down.

Oh, my God, it's
the attorney general!

♪ (MUSIC CONCLUDES) ♪

Nancy Salzman:
The negative aspect of shame
is what you feel with guilt.

Shame is actually
the fear of approaching,

or being associated with others,

because of whatever you did.

In other words,
you did something
that was shameful.

Shame is when you don't
want to be associated
with something,

so you fearfully
run away from it.

Just like guilt,
shame is a verdict
we pass on ourselves.

But the issue here
is how you handle shame.

(fire crackling)

Someone who is at cause
doesn't feel shame
in the same way.

As the results of their actions
unfold to them,

they feel a strong
motivation to stop it.

When the at cause person
sees something they've done
going awry,

and realizes that
they've participated
in something

that goes against their values,

they're motivated to face it,
and do something about it.

They feel empowered.

("Dream State"
by Son Lux playing)

♪ Days we were young ♪

♪ We took photographs of
everything we could see ♪

♪ We had to run from it ♪

♪ Priest and prophetess ♪

♪ We were nothing
we would defy ♪

♪ Oh, invisible skin ♪

♪ Where is the world within ♪

♪ Invincible skin ♪

♪ It's how we all begin ♪

Catherine Oxenberg:
In the past two weeks,

since the "New York Times"
articles have come out,

I would say 100 publications
have picked up the story.

"People" to "Megyn Kelly"
to "20/20," "Nightline."

This is, like, all over
the freaking world.

And I am conflicted,

because I have a child
who's blaming me

for potentially destroying
her reputation for
the rest of her life.

This is a horrible situation
for a parent to be in.

He's not even commented.

I sent him the media that
we got online yesterday,

I texted him the cover
of the newspaper.

He's not even...
I said, "We need to talk."

Nothing. Nothing!

And I am a tad
hysterical right now.

Part of me was fantasizing
that she would say,
"Mom, come get me.

You're right.
I want to come home."

And that's not the case at all.

In fact, quite the opposite.

(sighs) I texted her...

"Darling, please call me.
I love you."

Nothing. No response.

And quite frankly,
if I were in her position,

I would be pretty pissed, too.

(video chat beeping)

Sarah Edmondson
(over computer): Hello?

Oxenberg:
Hi, love.

- How are you?
- I'm okay.

Edmondson:
Catherine, you said
you have news.

- Can you fill us in?
- (phone ringing)

Oxenberg (over computer):
Yeah. Okay, so,

the chief investigator
in the Attorney General
Schneiderman's office

has reached out to me,

and they're interested in
the criminal angle.

What we need

is evidence of criminality,

that will help bolster
a criminal case.

We need to be able to
collect all the evidence,

-to hand a package in
to the authorities.
-Okay.

Mark Vicente (over computer):
We need more people
to come out on the record,

stating their experience.
And if those people

have been involved
in illegal activities,

or aware of illegal activities,

- we need that information.
- Oxenberg: Mm-hmm.

Edmondson:
Okay, here is a question, guys.

Who can we bring in to help us,

because all of us
can't do all of this.

Look... look, remember,
we have different agendas.

I have a child to save.

- I don't want to burden you...
- Of course.

- With extra stuff, so.
- No.

Edmondson:
This is, she's not my child,
but I...

I'll have your back
wherever you want me
to have your back.

-Okay?
-Thank you, Sarah.
That means a lot to me.

Edmondson:
All right, I'm gonna
start a list.

Anyone for sure
that we can trust.

And I'm just gonna say,
"Who wants to help?"

Is that okay?

-Yeah, fantastic.
-Yeah, that's great.
I think that's great.

Vicente:
And remember Frank Parlato?

He has a lot of sources
inside and outside of ESP

that report to him.

He's says he's got
about 30 people.

Right now,
he has more information

about what's going on
than really anybody else.

Bonnie Piesse:
Some of the stuff
Frank writes is very vulgar,

and over the top.

Like it's really rough.

♪♪

Oxenberg:
Every time there's an article
about India,

-and they're usually
pretty graphic...
-Piesse: Mm-hmm.

It hurts.

But I don't interfere
with his reporting.

- Is that what it was?
- Nippy Ames: Yeah.

(Ames speaking)

(toaster beeps)

Ames:
I mean, he's kind of
strong-arming these women

who are not really
understanding.

They're scared
to come out, and get,

you know,
screwed by this whole thing.

He's not at all
remotely sensitive to that.

Edmondson: (sighs)
Frank has published lies

about people
that have really hurt them.

Ames:
I think he is potentially
guilty of some things

but they pale in comparison
to everything else that's
going on.

(phone jingling)

Oxenberg:
Frank Parlato.

- Frank?
- Frank Parlato (over phone):

-Oxenberg:
Hey, how are you?
-I'm okay.

Oxenberg:
The chief investigator
called me.

He wants a meeting with me
on Monday, November 6th.

But I need all
the evidence in hand.

Otherwise, it's a waste
of a meeting.

But I want to strategize, and...

I'm... Are you available
that weekend prior?

(Parlato speaking)

Monday. So I have
the weekend to prepare.

(Parlato speaking)

Mm-hmm.

♪♪

Oxenberg:
I've never met him in person.

I imagine he's a character.

He is a character.

And he was kind of odd
on the phone when I first
reached out.

But the more I got to know him,

the more I realized
we have the same agenda.

And I think he's helped
a lot of people get out.

(line ringing)

Mom, you picked up!

- Princess Elizabeth: What?
- I said hello.

Oxenberg:
Listen, I need you
to do something.

(Princess Elizabeth speaking)

Oxenberg:
Can you call Charles
and get a direct contact

- with the Dalai Lama?
- Princess Elizabeth: Uh-huh?

I want to tell him that
my daughter's being
held as a sex slave,

- to this organization because...
- Princess Elizabeth: Yes.

He should probably make some
sort of public statement.

And Charles is
very close with him.

(Princess Elizabeth speaking)

-Fantastic. All right.
So, I just...
-(indistinct)

Yeah, I'm landed in...
I'm in Buffalo,

driving right now to
Frank Parlato's house

to put together the evidence.

- (Princess Elizabeth speaking)
- For my meeting on Monday.

(Princess Elizabeth speaking)

Oxenberg:
Tonight we're staying
at Frank's house.

(Princess Elizabeth speaking)

No, I've never met him
in person. (laughs)

(Princess Elizabeth speaking)

(laughing)
I think so.

(both laughing)

Oxenberg:
What do you think
of The Frank Report?

(Princess Elizabeth speaking)

-Oxenberg:
All right, love you, Mom.
-(Princess Elizabeth speaking)

- Bye. (kisses) I shall.
- (Princess Elizabeth speaking)

Kiss, kiss. Bye.

Oxenberg:
Prince Charles.

He's Mom's second cousin.

Oxenberg:
That's it?

-It's the one that looks like
the Addams Family?
-Producer: Yeah.

Hi. It's so good to meet you.

- This is Jerry.
- Oxenberg: Hi.

-Jerry: Hi. Nice to meet you.
-Oxenberg: Hi.
Lovely to meet you.

- Parlato: That's Brad.
- Oxenberg: Who's Brett?

- Parlato: Brad.
- Oxenberg: Brad.

I'm Catherine.
Nice to meet you.

So, where do you want to work?
Are we gonna need a table?

- Are we gonna need...
- Oh, we need the printer. Brad...

- I got the printer.
- (all chattering)

- Oh, I gotta get the paper.
- Paper.

Woman:
I'll do the...
Paper's in the front seat.

- Would you help me?
- Woman 2: Yeah, I'll grab it.

(chattering)

Got enough?
Got enough film?

Producer: Um, yeah.
We can do as much as we...
as much as you want.

Let's do "cut" right now,
'cause I gotta talk
something private.

Yeah, but you see,
the real chess people,

the greatest chess people,
including myself,

we don't need a board.

We keep the whole game
in our head.

You plan out 14 steps ahead.
I'm seven to go.

Can I try pineapple
and carrot juice?

So, Frank has a juicer
that he's never used.

But we can christen it.

All right, everybody
cross their fingers.

(juicer whirring)

I'm sure there's
a better way of doing this.

- (juicer whirring)
- Oxenberg: Okay!

Here. You be
the official taster.

Who else wants juice?

- Woman: It's very good.
- Oxenberg: You like it?

- Yes, very nice.
- Well, it's what we had,

and I winged it.
That's kind of how I cook.

♪♪

Thank you so much.

Aw, Debbie, you're so sweet.

- Thank you for helping.
- (Debbie speaking)

♪♪

Parlato:
So, we're trying to
put together a package.

True evidence
of criminal activity.

She's going to see
the Attorney General's

chief deputy and investigator.

We have a list of crimes,

and we want to know
how best to present
those crimes,

and how much information to give
pertaining to each crime.

Parlato:
Read off some of the crimes.

Oxenberg:
So human trafficking,
extortion,

uh, assault, hazing,
scheme to defraud.

Immigration fraud,
wire fraud, money laundering,

tax evasion,
retaliation against witnesses,

slavery, kidnapping,
medical malpractice.

Oxenberg:
I can't prove all of
these claims.

(Jim Roscetti speaking)

Oxenberg:
Mm-hmm.

So, would you go with
a leaner package,

or a bigger package?

(Roscetti speaking)

She can tell you,
they're starving her daughter,

they're making her
sleep deprived,
they've branded her.

They're coercing her to have
sexual activities,

and to coerce other women
to have sex with Raniere.

-It's human trafficking,
I think.
-Oxenberg: Yeah.

- (Roscetti speaking)
- Oxenberg: Yes.

(Roscetti speaking)

Oxenberg:
Well, plus, they all
gave collateral.

And they were told
if they didn't fulfill
their assignments,

they would release that.

Blackmail. Let's just
call it what it is.

Oxenberg: Exactly.

And people have gone
to law enforcement
with that evidence

and they still have
turned them away.

So how do we handle
this list of crimes?

I want to make sure
that I'm saying this right.

"Clare Bronfman 'loaned, '"
in quotation marks,

uh, "at least $65 million
to Keith Raniere and NXIVM
companies.

NXIVM declares no income
and therefore cannot repay
said loan."

That's pretty clear?

They're cooking their books.

Oxenberg:
Yeah, but they're saying
it's consensual.

(Parlato speaking)

Edmondson:
Most people probably
don't know,

Catherine is
India Oxenberg's mom.

And Catherine's literally been
spending all her time and energy

compiling evidence
and working with Frank.

Oxenberg (over computer):
And I believe that Frank
probably has

75 percent of the evidence.

What we don't have so far
is witness testimonies.

If all of us write letters,

basically saying that
there is criminal activity,

that we believe, we know,
we participated in,

they may have to look at it.

Ames:
What I think everyone
would want to know is

what kind of impression
we want them to have

when we write this.

Oxenberg:
Yeah, it's really important

that you share a tiny bit
about your experience,

that you were brought in
under certain pretext.

Because ultimately,
this is a criminal enterprise

-masquerading as a
personal growth program.
-Ames: Right.

Edmondson:
The idea was to get 100 letters.

We would use the same system
that got us in, in terms of
enrollment,

to get out, which is to, like,
think of a couple people each

that we could
duplicate this with.

Ames:
And I have an example,
if you want me to read it.

"I had three separate women
contact me fearing for
their safety.

"What were they afraid of?

"The branding of Keith Raniere
and Allison Mack's initials

in their pubic area."

"DOS is a monolithic
and ruthless group,

"masquerading as a group
designed to liberate women.

"It relies primarily on
coercion instead of
open dialogue,

"on intimidation
instead of free choice.

At the beck and call of a man
accountable to no one named
Keith Raniere."

Edmondson:
No one's ever done this.

No one has ever done
what we're doing now

because they're too afraid
to talk to other people.

-"Is this gonna
get back to Keith?"
-(murmurs of agreement)

That's why he's able to do
what he's done for
so many years,

and not just in ESP.

We need to expose him.
The more people that expose him,

the more people come
out of the woodwork
and say the same thing.

Ames:
All right. Let's start.

Edmondson:
Having something from you
would be helpful.

It's supposed to be
anonymous, anyway.

Ames:
It's your story, but
if you want to help them

to understand
the magnitude of it.

But it frames it in
people's heads.

Vicente:
The more people
that can go on the record,

stating their experience,
the better.

Whoever you want
to reach out to.

Whoever you think has evidence.

I think everybody has
a piece of the puzzle.
I really do.

♪♪

Vicente:
There are so many stories

of the destruction
to people's lives.

And as they tell us the stories,

we need to compile
all the information together.

And all the evidence
to prepare this dossier,

to present them with a case.

We want the world to see.

(woman 1 speaking)

(man speaking)

(woman 2 speaking)

Vicente:
I'm seeing how long
these things were going on,

and how far back they went.

And one thing I found
is clear evidence
of financial crimes.

Vicente:
Susan Dones was
one of the nine that left...

back in 2009.

And then they just
went after her.

She was sued on almost
200 charges.

And she defended herself.

And won.

She's an amazing woman.

And she totally understands
how it all works.

Parlato:
I was never his follower.

I never took a course
or anything like that.

I was his publicist.

It is astounding how many
people he's intimidated

and frightened.

He will spend
five million dollars

against a person,
to punish them
for no good reason.

He enjoys hurting people.

This is a pattern.

Just think about Toni Natalie.

She was the original pioneer
of the defectors.

She was the only one
out there fighting,

long before anybody else
came out to fight.

And she did it
all these years by herself.

She's had 30 years of Raniere.

But, you know,
it really wrecked her life.

Toni Natalie:
My name is Toni Natalie.

And I was a former girlfriend
of Keith Raniere.

Keith and I had a bit of
a different relationship.

He wasn't "Vanguard."
He was Keith.

He was a businessman
when I met him.

(Keith Raniere speaking)

Eddie Albert (on tape):
I met a person recently

who has come up with
a doozy of an idea.

And I'd like you to meet
this impressive young man.

- Keith, happy to see you again.
- Yes, happy to see you, too.

It's an amazing idea.

Yes, well, sometimes
it even amazes me.

But Consumers' Buyline
is wonderful.

And it's working.

Natalie:
Consumers' Buyline was a
multi-level marketing company,

where people joined this
membership, and as a group,

would save hundreds,
if not thousands of dollars,
on their purchases.

Raniere:
We've been able
to concentrate

all this purchasing power

to get a better deal
from the sellers.

But you have
to be represented
by professional buyers

who shop around
for the best value.

What we are about
is getting things

that we could not get
by ourselves.

We help each other have more.

It's merely a stepping stone

to change the way we live,

and maximize human potential.

Natalie:
The way he
presented himself was,

"Hi, I'm Keith Raniere.
I have a 240 IQ,

and I want to
change the world."

And it became one of the
fastest-growing multi-level
marketing companies

in the country at the time.

-(applause)
-News anchor:
The gross receipts

of CBI's first year of operation

were under $200,000.

In 1992, they took
a meteoric rise to
$35 million.

Natalie:
And it was pretty enticing.

I mean, the program
was really good.

So, I drove up there
to see if it was legitimate.

You know?
Let's put eyes on this.

And when I went in,

I don't know how to explain it.
It was... energized.

(upbeat music playing)

Consumers' Buyline,
may I help you?

Natalie:
It was a room
full of young people,

working all hours
of the day and night,

all excited about
what was going on.

And he came out...

And he came up to me
in the office,

and he said,
"Do you smoke?"

And I said yes. He said,
"Would you like to quit?"

And all I can remember
thinking was,

this genius that's
running this huge company

is gonna stop and take time
and spend time with me,

and help me to quit smoking.

We went into his office,

and he asked me
what made me comfortable,

and what things made me nervous.

And he was using
pressure points on my hands.

And he said,
"Any time you feel like
you're going to smoke,

"what I want you to do
is just press that spot,

and you're not gonna have
the urge to smoke anymore."

That's all I remember.

When I walked out,
somebody said to me,

"What were you doing
in there all that time?"

And I said, "What do you mean?
I was in there, like,
15 minutes."

He said, "No, Toni.
You were in there about
two and a half hours."

I went back to Rochester,

and then, Keith started calling.

Hours and hours and hours
of phone calls.

He would share things
about his life.

I would share things
about my life.

And this went on for months.

So, he knew all of my secrets.

He was listening.
He was listening.

When I asked him why
someone with a 240 IQ

was doing a multi-level
marketing company,

"Why aren't you curing cancer

or doing something that really
is gonna be very significant?"

And he said this was
going to be the platform
he used

to change the world,

and didn't I want to come along?

And I was hooked.

♪♪

He convinced me to
take a train to Clifton Park.

On that first trip out there,

Keith and I started
a, a relationship.

A, a physical relationship.

And they offered me
a position within the company.

My son and I moved up there.

I became instantly accepted
by this group of people.

Raniere:
This is the principle on which
Consumers' Buyline has grown:

friends recommending us
to friends.

I would love for you
to join our family.

Natalie:
It was very exciting.
It paid extremely well.

But Keith said, "No one can
know about our relationship."

"Well, why's that?"
"Because you don't have
a formal education."

People will think you got
the job because of me."

My education is all of
two weeks of tenth grade.

And Keith knew that,
'cause I had shared it
with him.

So, he took my shame,

and he figured out a way
to use it to control me.

And then, I started
to feel uncomfortable

with things that were
going on with the company.

Commission checks weren't
going out on time.

Man:
If you go to work,

you want to get paid
at the end of the week.

And that's the bottom line
with people.

Woman: And people
aren't getting paid?

Not that I've heard.

News anchor:
On Saturday night,

more than 200
Consumers' Buyline members

packed into this theater,

all looking to meet the man
behind the company,

President Keith Raniere.

But Raniere did not show up.

The company was accused of being
an illegal pyramid scheme,

that uses unfair sales practices
to sign up new members.

So far, the company is facing
four state investigations,

and several state lawsuits.

Natalie:
Consumers' Buyline
was shut down

by 22 Attorney Generals
and two federal agencies.

Keith refused to admit
he did anything wrong.

He said it was the government
that was after him,

and Walmart, 'cause he
was competing with Walmart.

And at that point,

I kind of thought that
Keith was deteriorating.

And maybe his mind
just wasn't as clear
as it was before.

Then came Nancy.

And that was the turning point.

At that time, Nancy Salzman
was my therapist.

And she was the number two
NLP expert in the world.

Salzman:
A number of years ago,

I took an NLP course.

I felt that this was at least
part of the answer

to all that had been missing.

I became a trainer,

and then proceeded to practice
this newfound skill,

teaching and working with
literally tens of thousands
of people.

Natalie:
Neuro-linguistic programming
is a type of hypnotherapy.

Nancy Salzman was an NLP master.

Define "lie."

What does it mean, lie?

What is a lie?
What does it mean?

Salzman:
It was at this point
in my life

that I met a gentleman
named Keith Raniere.

He could not only
voice the questions

that were burning in my mind,

but he had the answers.

Keith developed a model
called "rational inquiry."

In just minutes,
he could get to core issues.

And he said,
"This is something
that I could teach you.

"It's reproducible,
it's verifiable.

I could teach it to anyone
who really wanted to learn."

And I really wanted to learn.

A single man had
developed a technology

to transform and empower
the world.

Natalie:
I have a video of the
first class that Nancy did.

And Keith's sitting there.

He watched her
take control of that room,

and it was almost like
a light went off.

He could get her to
control the people

that he wanted to control.

Natalie:
They started talking
about this business

that they were going to create.

The original intent was to
go into big corporations,

and sell them their program.

It was originally
Raniere Management Systems.

And the first
corporate package
that she pitched,

they came back with,

"We love you, Nancy.
We think this is great.

But we don't want him
to have any involvement."

So when he realized that
his past wasn't going to work,

they kind of regrouped.

♪♪

And they created
Executive Success Program.

And I went to what
I believed to be
the first intensive.

But, you know, your gut
just tells you that
something's not right.

I was having sessions
with Nancy.

I talked to her about
my relationship with Keith.

Too many women around,

and too many things
that just didn't fit.

And she said to me,
"You just don't know
who he is, do you?"

And I started to
really look at what
I was participating in.

And then all of a sudden
we were supposed to
call him "Vanguard."

- Vanguard!
- Just like the arcade!

Natalie:
It was a video game
that he had in our garage.

(video game firing, beeping)

That was it.

(firing, beeping)

- Raniere: Whoa! Sorry.
- (woman laughing)

(indistinct chatter)

Natalie:
I thought, all right,
I'm going to break up with him

and that's going to be
the end of the relationship.

(women laughing)

And that was just kind of
the beginning of hell.

♪♪

(computer dings)

Uh, guys?

- Frank?
- Parlato: Yes?

I just got a text from India.

Parlato:
Yeah?

Oxenberg:
"For someone so concerned
with my well-being,

"I find it odd that you've
never visited, that's all.

"If you could pinpoint
the danger that you
seem to think I'm in,

"that might help you.

"Your claims are really
frightening people

"who think I'm also in danger,

"and that's really sad,
since if you were here,

you, too, would see that
there's nothing happening."

(frustrated sigh)

I feel him...

I feel him in every word.

The truth is,
she feels really lost to me.

There's a part of me
that just doesn't want
to accept it.

Because it doesn't
make sense to me

that the child that
I've known for 26 years

is not present anymore.

I do feel responsible.

I was always on
a spiritual quest,

around gurus and ashrams,

and very often
I would bring her,
even as an infant,

to those places.

So, I've exposed her
to those environments.

And then I feel responsible
for introducing her to ESP.

Vicente:
There are certain things
that we're good at.

And then there are
certain things that
we don't know how to do,

or certain limitations
that we experience.

Do you guys have a sense
of what those limitations are?

-Vicente:
I used to have that!
-Woman: Me too!

Wait, can I write that down?

Oxenberg:
I took her to an intro.

And she loved it.

She said, "This is for me."

And she wanted to do it with me.

I figured this is
an opportunity
to spend five days

doing something introspective
with my child.

And I definitely had experiences

that I felt were valuable.

I thought it was a good tool.

I kept doing classes

on and off for
a two-year period.

And I overlooked
the things that bothered me.

What I didn't know is that
the whole system was designed

to break a person down

and lock in a new persona.

I'm looking forward
to hearing what you think
I can say to India

that will get through to her.

That will want her
to turn against Keith.

Well, it's not turning
against Keith.

It's turning towards herself.

Oxenberg:
But how do you invite somebody
to turn towards themselves?

Well, I think you have
to explain to her,

in truthful language,
what's about to happen.

This is gonna come falling down,

and there's probably
only one way

-that she can
escape humiliation.
-Oxenberg: Mm-hmm.

She takes a positive step

towards rebelling and rejecting

the interference with her mind

that Keith has done to her,

and to others.

She has to do something heroic.

So, let's say we...

- Let's say I wrote that text.
- Okay.

What is Keith gonna tell her?

Well, he may tell her...

He may tell her,

"Block your mother.

Block your texts."

Oxenberg:
And then what would we do?

(laughs)

♪♪

(car door closes)

Oxenberg:
She is in the clutches
of something

over which I am powerless.

And when I realized that
my message to law enforcement

would include me
accusing my daughter

of participating in
sex trafficking,

it hit me really, really hard.

I know she's a victim.

That's the tragedy of it.

And I need to tell
the whole story

to get them to pay attention.

♪♪

Natalie:
Now I'll show you the war room.

Come on, Ramona.

Come on.
(clicking tongue)

When Keith and I
finally split up,

the, uh, last thing
he said to me was,

"I will see you dead
or in jail."

And I thought that was
a really horrible thing

to say to someone at the time.

But I had no idea...

what my future held.

Then I started
creating a timeline
of things that happened

after I left.

So that I could try to
get my thoughts clear.

(phone ringing)

It started with phone calls.

(phone ringing)

All hours of the day and nigh.

(phone ringing)

They would contact
my credit card companies,

they canceled
my medical insurance,

shut off my phone.

They called my son's school
and they canceled his school.

It was a nightmare.

And I, I couldn't figure out
how it was happening.

My neighbor said to me one da,

"That girl with the long hair.

She comes and takes
your mail every day, Toni."

That's how I found out
what was going on.

I filed complaints.

When you kind of
have a feeling like
someone's watching you?

He just wanted to let me know

that he could get to me
anytime he wanted to

as easily as he wanted to.

These are just all the files.

This is proof of
the criminal case,

timelines,

motions that were filed.

I was forced to file bankruptcy.

They lodged three lawsuits
against me.

While that was going on,

he had me investigated
by the FBI.

Files and files and files.

And every time
you pull it all out,

it changes.

You know, what looked like
one thing before

looks completely different now
because you,

you've learned more.

I, I don't know.

(sighs)

This is Pam's.

(distant cheering, applause)

You'll see she's
weighing herself.

Every morsel of food.

One handful of cereal.

One bite of something.

How many miles she ran.

Pam's top 10 experiences.

Winning the 5th Avenue mile.

Meeting Keith.

She met him skiing.

You know, she was the one
he first manipulated.

♪♪

Meeting Toni.

I came in '91.

The first time
I went to Clifton Park,

I remember Pam was
running around the office

saying, "She's here.
Is she family?"

And he said, "Yeah, she is."

She had to commit
her life to him.

And part of that was that
she had to help

bring some women
into the family.

And she embraced me

with more love and friendship

and devotion

than anyone had ever in my life.

After I left,

I still waited for her to call.

♪♪

- So...
- (folders shut)

That's enough of that.

(clattering)

Okay.

(NXIVM member laughs)

Vicente:
If you just look at
the specific crimes,

you'll find that
Keith Raniere's name
is not on anything.

But, if you look at
the entire system

and how the
indoctrination works
over a period of decades,

you understand coercion,
and you understand
that he is, in fact,

leading and guiding
and controlling

every single action
in the corporation.

He hasn't got
his name on a company,

or didn't explicitly order
somebody to do something,

but his hand is in everything.

(Susan Dones speaking)

(inaudible)

(Dones speaking)

Vicente:
When Susan Dones left...

what we were told
and what I believed

was that she had maybe
stolen materials,

or misused the tech.

(crowd applauding)

Raniere is saying
to make it right,

you know, you have to
make people accountable.

If everybody steals
in the world,

what kind of world
are we gonna have?
So...

they were trying to
make it right.

That's the story that I heard.

When I finally speak to
Susan Dones once I'm out,

she tells me how
they went after her.

Why do you need 200 charges

if it's the principle that
needs to be challenged?

This has nothing
to do with principle.

It's to torture the person.

And I was part of
the opposition against her.

The reign of terror.

♪♪

I was the enforcer...

trying to, like,
capture everybody
back into the system.

And what happens is,

people are afraid
to ask questions.

You're afraid you'll be seen
as dishonorable.

And I was afraid
to ask questions.

I sided with the
wrong side of history

against people that were
just trying to get away.

I honestly don't know
how to resolve that.

Susan Dones:
Hey.

Hello.

(laughing)

Mm...

Both:
Aah!

Dones:
Mark, Mark, Mark, Mark.

Vicente:
I never got your
side of the story.

Dones:
I just held out hope

that you would wake up one day.

And, um,

-I...
-Took longer than
you thought, maybe.

It just took what it took.

Mm.

I am so sorry how
fucked up all this was.

'Cause we had a,
a good thing, and we, like,

- got each other?
- Right.

And then as I think you started

pushing against things,

they started saying stuff
about you.

-Right.
-And it eventually started
affecting me.

And I just have, like,
just fuckin' regret.

I think in time
you're gonna find

that the stuff that you
have done since you left

is part of your healing.

Being able to stand up and,
and fight for myself

and expose certain things

- that were the truth...
- Mm-hmm.

It was very healing for me.

You know, the guilt
and the remorse,

and for me, the betrayal,

that all does
eventually resolve.

- Mm-hmm.
- But it's, it's a tough journey.

-Mm-hmm.
-And there's, like,
no way around it.

-Mm-mm.
-You, you have to
go through it.

♪♪

(gentle ringtone on phone)

Natalie:
Hi. What's going on?

(Vicente speaking)

Mm-hmm.

Natalie:
Yes. There's, um...
there's quite a bit.

(Vicente speaking)

Natalie:
I feel good this time.

I feel like this is it.

♪♪

(car door closes)

Natalie:
Have you seen this?

Oxenberg:
What was this?
This was for you?

Natalie:
Yeah, that was my
death timeline.

Oxenberg:
Oh, my God.

Natalie:
This is one of the letters

that Keith sent me when I left.

This was what was
gonna happen to me.

Oxenberg:
He's showing her a diagram

of her demise,

basically,
is what that looks like.

Natalie:
Right.

Oxenberg:
So, yeah, I say we,

we do add this, and just say,

"Keith's threats
after I left him."

-Natalie:
He's doing the same things.
-Oh, yeah. I know.

-His patterns haven't
changed in 30 years.
- changed at all.

♪♪

Oxenberg:
Do you think we should
put the photo of the brand

- right up front?
- Parlato: Yeah.

Oxenberg:
And you know
what I'd like to add

is that it's two inches
by two inches.

The dimensions are significan.

Woman:
Okay, here it is.

Oxenberg:
Good. Very good.

Three binders full of evidence.

Done.

- (Parlato speaking)
- You want to carry them out?

- Yeah, I would like to.
- Thank you, Frank.

(indistinct chatter, laughter)

Okay.

Frank, thank you.

All right. I'll see you.

I will talk to you shortly.

We'll be in touch.

(rain pattering)

♪♪

Oxenberg:
This building is insane.

It's impenetrable.

♪♪

I never assumed

that I would be responsible
for so much of this.

I have started a ball rolling,

which I have no control over
the momentum anymore.

And what I'm delivering
to the government

incriminates India.

I'm handing her to them
on a platter

as a criminal.

But I would almost rather
she be in jail,

if that's what it will take
to get her out.

("Change is Everything"
by Son Lux playing)

♪ This moment
changes everything ♪

♪ This moment changes
everything ♪

(vocalizing)

♪ This moment
changes everything ♪

♪ The course of blood
within your veins ♪

♪ Oh ♪

♪ A stranger's form,
your skeleton ♪

♪ Ooh ♪

♪ See the bones glow
as they break free ♪

♪ This moment
changes everything ♪

♪ This moment changes
everything ♪

WOMAN: Everything
was to help you grow.

But as soon as you recognized
the person masterminding it,

and is manipulating women
for his own pleasure,

everything changes.

DOS is an effect of years
of indoctrination.

We were led to believe
that Keith was a scientist

we would like to study.

We're experimenting.

The idea we were being sold
was men and women

need to walk
in each other's shoes

to truly respect and love
each other.

CATHERINE OXENBERG:
They're assigning
an FBI taskforce.

They want to speak to DOS,

and they want to speak
to witnesses immediately.