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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:01,377 --> 00:00:03,669 - Tonight, I am talking about trade schools, colleges, 2 00:00:03,713 --> 00:00:05,379 technology, the global economy, 3 00:00:05,423 --> 00:00:08,090 and I'm pretty sure there's a nicki minaj reference 4 00:00:08,134 --> 00:00:09,591 in there somewhere since last week, 5 00:00:09,635 --> 00:00:11,593 we shouted out cardi b. 6 00:00:11,637 --> 00:00:12,177 Welcome to "kal penn approves this message." 7 00:00:12,221 --> 00:00:18,308 - ♪ 8 00:00:19,854 --> 00:00:22,813 - one of the upsides to this quarantine is seeing how many 9 00:00:22,857 --> 00:00:24,398 people learn to do new things. 10 00:00:24,442 --> 00:00:28,527 Now, if you're like me, you have totally squandered that time by 11 00:00:28,571 --> 00:00:30,738 pounding frosé over virtual happy hours, 12 00:00:30,781 --> 00:00:32,656 largely boycotting pants, and thinking about 13 00:00:32,700 --> 00:00:34,366 what life will be like if this never ends. 14 00:00:34,410 --> 00:00:36,744 At first, I was like, "oh my god, it would be amazing." 15 00:00:36,787 --> 00:00:38,162 but then the other part of me was like, 16 00:00:38,205 --> 00:00:40,873 "frosé is a summer drink. This is not sustainable." 17 00:00:40,916 --> 00:00:44,376 I realized, "look, if this does go on for a while, 18 00:00:44,420 --> 00:00:46,712 "I should maybe join my instabragger friends 19 00:00:46,756 --> 00:00:48,255 and learn some new skills." 20 00:00:48,299 --> 00:00:51,258 and thinking about all of this reminded me of a story 21 00:00:51,302 --> 00:00:54,553 about my friend nick that I wanted to share tonight. 22 00:00:54,597 --> 00:00:56,430 So a few years ago, nick and I were eating some tacos, 23 00:00:56,474 --> 00:01:01,310 as dudes do, and nick asked if I wanted to check out this house 24 00:01:01,353 --> 00:01:02,853 that he's building himself. 25 00:01:02,897 --> 00:01:04,855 So I followed him in his pickup truck for, like, 20 miles, 26 00:01:04,899 --> 00:01:07,316 and I just kept thinking, "man, this is super impressive." 27 00:01:07,359 --> 00:01:11,028 at 24, nick has somehow saved up enough money to hire 28 00:01:11,072 --> 00:01:13,614 a whole contractor/construction team to build him a house. 29 00:01:13,657 --> 00:01:15,741 You guys know what I was doing at 24? 30 00:01:15,785 --> 00:01:20,579 I was wearing this oversized fez on the tv series "angel." 31 00:01:20,623 --> 00:01:21,830 yeah, you're welcome. 32 00:01:21,874 --> 00:01:23,749 So we pull up to nick's house, 33 00:01:23,793 --> 00:01:25,751 and it's this beautiful, rustic cabin 34 00:01:25,795 --> 00:01:28,337 that looked like it was out of "architectural digest." 35 00:01:28,380 --> 00:01:31,590 for those who don't know, "architectural digest" is like 36 00:01:31,634 --> 00:01:34,093 "us weekly," but for houses. 37 00:01:34,136 --> 00:01:35,803 So while I'm checking out nick's huge fireplace 38 00:01:35,846 --> 00:01:37,179 under a double-height ceiling, 39 00:01:37,223 --> 00:01:40,182 he goes, "a lot of beer went into this living room." 40 00:01:40,226 --> 00:01:41,767 and I was like, "what?" 41 00:01:41,811 --> 00:01:44,103 and he goes, "yeah, you know, to get that heavy fireplace mantle 42 00:01:44,146 --> 00:01:46,396 "in here, I had to have a bunch of friends come help out. 43 00:01:46,440 --> 00:01:50,400 So I bought them a keg. We kicked it." 44 00:01:50,444 --> 00:01:52,569 and I was like, "wait a [bleep] minute, nick. 45 00:01:52,613 --> 00:01:54,571 "when you said you built your own house, 46 00:01:54,615 --> 00:01:57,241 "you mean you actually built your own house? 47 00:01:57,284 --> 00:01:58,575 "like, with your hands? 48 00:01:58,619 --> 00:02:00,119 And got drunk during?" 49 00:02:00,162 --> 00:02:03,872 and that's when I realized that in terms of life skills, 50 00:02:03,916 --> 00:02:04,748 going to trade school taught nick 51 00:02:04,792 --> 00:02:06,208 some really impressive things. 52 00:02:06,252 --> 00:02:09,461 And it cost a fraction of going to a four-year college. 53 00:02:09,505 --> 00:02:12,464 And that's what we're gonna talk about tonight: 54 00:02:12,508 --> 00:02:15,050 Trade school, college, and how graduates of both 55 00:02:15,094 --> 00:02:17,761 fit into a rapidly changing global economy, 56 00:02:17,805 --> 00:02:19,171 all of which will be affected by 57 00:02:19,181 --> 00:02:21,890 the people we decide to elect on November 3. 58 00:02:25,187 --> 00:02:27,146 When it comes to what people do after high school, 59 00:02:27,189 --> 00:02:29,565 usually there are, what? Four main options, right? 60 00:02:29,608 --> 00:02:33,610 Go into the workforce, military, college, or go to trade school. 61 00:02:33,654 --> 00:02:35,529 And tonight, I'm gonna focus on those last two: 62 00:02:35,573 --> 00:02:37,281 College and trade school. 63 00:02:37,324 --> 00:02:39,199 What do I mean by college? 64 00:02:39,243 --> 00:02:41,118 Community colleges, four-year degree programs, 65 00:02:41,162 --> 00:02:43,579 things that prepare for you careers that might range from 66 00:02:43,622 --> 00:02:46,582 being a teacher to a ceo to whatever it is your friend 67 00:02:46,625 --> 00:02:49,334 who unironically wears fedoras does for a living. 68 00:02:49,378 --> 00:02:53,505 Uh, this is mine, by the way. His name is david. 69 00:02:53,549 --> 00:02:54,840 David has a phd in something, but I have no clue what he does 70 00:02:54,884 --> 00:02:57,384 for a living 'cause we just never talk about work. 71 00:02:57,428 --> 00:03:00,012 By trade school, I mean any school that teaches you 72 00:03:00,055 --> 00:03:04,183 a specific set of skills for a specific line of work. 73 00:03:04,226 --> 00:03:06,268 So two systems, people, work it. 74 00:03:06,312 --> 00:03:07,686 And, no, I'm not referring to 75 00:03:07,730 --> 00:03:10,105 the rupaul institute of working it, girl. 76 00:03:10,149 --> 00:03:13,609 Trade schools can prepare people for a range of careers, 77 00:03:13,652 --> 00:03:14,985 whether you wanna be a medical assistant 78 00:03:15,029 --> 00:03:16,486 or an electrical worker or a home inspector. 79 00:03:16,530 --> 00:03:18,280 Those are all people who are working it. 80 00:03:18,324 --> 00:03:20,532 I have admittedly often thought about whether I should have 81 00:03:20,576 --> 00:03:23,952 applied to the rupaul institute of working it, girl. 82 00:03:23,996 --> 00:03:24,578 What do you think, brita filter? 83 00:03:26,248 --> 00:03:28,373 - Hi, kal. When I say working it, 84 00:03:28,417 --> 00:03:30,667 I mean more of a state of mind and being, 85 00:03:30,711 --> 00:03:34,421 where you feel good and you show the world who you are. 86 00:03:34,465 --> 00:03:36,340 You know, getting training to make sure that you can compete 87 00:03:36,383 --> 00:03:42,304 in today's economy is another important way of working it too. 88 00:03:42,348 --> 00:03:45,182 So, work it! [laughs] 89 00:03:45,226 --> 00:03:46,600 - thanks, brita. 90 00:03:46,644 --> 00:03:50,604 College and trade school are both incredibly valuable 91 00:03:50,648 --> 00:03:53,357 in their own right. But they often ridiculously 92 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:54,900 get pitted against each other culturally. 93 00:03:54,944 --> 00:03:58,987 We have all heard these stereotypes before, right? 94 00:03:59,031 --> 00:04:01,031 It's like, oh, universities are brainwashing for the elites! 95 00:04:01,075 --> 00:04:03,075 Or, trade school? What? 96 00:04:03,118 --> 00:04:05,661 That's for those people who don't wanna access college. 97 00:04:05,704 --> 00:04:07,746 It's a lot of noise. It's a lot of bullshit. 98 00:04:07,790 --> 00:04:09,081 The comparisons are a false narrative. 99 00:04:09,124 --> 00:04:11,708 They're propagated by people who live for drama. 100 00:04:11,752 --> 00:04:13,126 It's a manufactured beef. 101 00:04:13,170 --> 00:04:15,212 You know what it's like? It's like nicki versus cardi. 102 00:04:15,256 --> 00:04:17,923 Twitter makes me think that I can't like them both. 103 00:04:17,967 --> 00:04:20,175 But you know what? I refuse to pick sides. 104 00:04:20,219 --> 00:04:23,595 I am gonna be rap switzerland on that one. 105 00:04:23,639 --> 00:04:25,305 Whether you go to college or trade school, you learn stuff. 106 00:04:25,349 --> 00:04:28,350 You gain some knowledge. Ideally, that gets you a job. 107 00:04:28,394 --> 00:04:30,352 Ideally, that's vital to our economy. 108 00:04:30,396 --> 00:04:34,273 The thing is, the economy doesn't just sit still. 109 00:04:34,316 --> 00:04:36,233 It's always changing. Technology evolves. 110 00:04:36,277 --> 00:04:39,778 For example, when's the last time you wrote a letter 111 00:04:39,822 --> 00:04:42,531 with a fancy quill dipped in olden-days black ink 112 00:04:42,574 --> 00:04:44,658 made from the protuberances of oak trees 113 00:04:44,702 --> 00:04:46,535 where a gall wasp has laid its eggs? 114 00:04:46,578 --> 00:04:49,037 - Last week. - Not you, david! 115 00:04:49,081 --> 00:04:50,706 The point is that most people have not. 116 00:04:50,749 --> 00:04:54,084 We barely write things at all anymore, right? 117 00:04:54,128 --> 00:04:56,295 We type on keyboards. We talk into phones. 118 00:04:56,338 --> 00:04:58,922 Whether it's the quill industry getting disrupted by pens 119 00:04:58,966 --> 00:05:03,010 or the pants-making industry getting disrupted by quarantine, 120 00:05:03,053 --> 00:05:04,553 careers of today might fade away tomorrow. 121 00:05:04,596 --> 00:05:08,724 This is really something to think about when we vote. 122 00:05:08,767 --> 00:05:10,225 Some of us believe the world's richest, 123 00:05:10,269 --> 00:05:11,184 most powerful country should fund 124 00:05:11,228 --> 00:05:13,103 the education of its population. 125 00:05:13,147 --> 00:05:16,732 Some of us think the government should be far less involved. 126 00:05:16,775 --> 00:05:20,736 But as this debate plays out in the us, we gotta focus. 127 00:05:20,779 --> 00:05:22,070 Other countries are getting their citizens ready 128 00:05:22,114 --> 00:05:26,450 for these jobs of the future by investing in stem: 129 00:05:26,493 --> 00:05:29,036 Science, technology, engineering, and math. 130 00:05:29,079 --> 00:05:30,078 Look, to be fair, we're doing it too, 131 00:05:30,122 --> 00:05:31,663 but is it to the same extent? 132 00:05:31,707 --> 00:05:34,541 Less than 20% of 13 to 19-year-olds 133 00:05:34,585 --> 00:05:35,751 are interested in stem careers. 134 00:05:35,794 --> 00:05:37,586 That's not great, guys! 135 00:05:37,629 --> 00:05:40,714 Even coming out of your room to say hi to your parents' friends 136 00:05:40,758 --> 00:05:42,257 polls at, like, 23%. 137 00:05:42,301 --> 00:05:46,178 If we don't convince more young people to go into stem, 138 00:05:46,221 --> 00:05:48,055 we'll fall behind in the global economy. 139 00:05:48,098 --> 00:05:49,723 And it shouldn't be hard to convince people 140 00:05:49,767 --> 00:05:50,849 because stem fields are awesome. 141 00:05:50,893 --> 00:05:52,142 If you still don't believe me, 142 00:05:52,186 --> 00:05:55,103 take it from my friend bill nye the science guy. 143 00:05:55,147 --> 00:05:56,229 A, yes, he's my friend. You can be jealous. 144 00:05:56,273 --> 00:05:57,856 And b, when he was your age, 145 00:05:57,900 --> 00:06:01,818 he thought about becoming bill nye the bagel guy. 146 00:06:01,862 --> 00:06:05,989 Bill nye the break pads guy. Or just bill nye the guy. 147 00:06:06,033 --> 00:06:08,533 But thankfully for all of us, he chose a career in science. 148 00:06:08,577 --> 00:06:10,160 And it made all the difference for him. 149 00:06:10,204 --> 00:06:11,745 - Greetings. Bill nye, here. 150 00:06:11,789 --> 00:06:14,915 Kal asked me to do a little bit about the importance of science, 151 00:06:14,958 --> 00:06:17,959 technology, engineering, and math. 152 00:06:18,003 --> 00:06:19,503 There's nothing more important. 153 00:06:19,546 --> 00:06:20,837 How do you think we even have this video? 154 00:06:20,881 --> 00:06:23,340 Or you have enough food to eat? 155 00:06:23,384 --> 00:06:26,551 Or the 7.7 billion other people around the world 156 00:06:26,595 --> 00:06:28,887 have enough food to eat? Do you think it's magic? 157 00:06:28,931 --> 00:06:30,263 No, people, it's science! 158 00:06:30,307 --> 00:06:32,682 It's in the us constitution. 159 00:06:32,726 --> 00:06:34,935 "the progress of science and useful arts." 160 00:06:34,978 --> 00:06:37,187 that's like making things to solve problems. 161 00:06:37,231 --> 00:06:39,481 Now, kal, you gotta figure out 162 00:06:39,525 --> 00:06:41,024 how to put the paper in your printer yourself. 163 00:06:41,068 --> 00:06:42,192 You can do that. You can do it. 164 00:06:43,821 --> 00:06:46,738 - Now, some of you might be wondering: Isn't this all kind 165 00:06:46,782 --> 00:06:49,491 of hypocritical coming from someone who is happily 166 00:06:49,535 --> 00:06:51,910 benefiting from an education in the arts? 167 00:06:51,954 --> 00:06:54,871 And to that, I offer you two points. 168 00:06:54,915 --> 00:06:57,666 First, the arts aren't all fun and games. 169 00:06:57,709 --> 00:06:59,709 Need I remind you? 170 00:06:59,753 --> 00:07:01,586 Second, check out the movement 171 00:07:01,630 --> 00:07:03,755 to invest in something called steam. 172 00:07:03,799 --> 00:07:05,132 And, no, I'm not talking about turbine lobbyists. 173 00:07:05,175 --> 00:07:09,136 Steam stands for science, technology, engineering, 174 00:07:09,179 --> 00:07:11,471 arts, and the math. 175 00:07:11,515 --> 00:07:14,057 The idea there is that infusing arts curriculum into stem 176 00:07:14,101 --> 00:07:17,894 will allow the united states to not just advance technology, 177 00:07:17,938 --> 00:07:19,396 but to creatively innovate it. 178 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:21,481 Aka, more jobs of the future. 179 00:07:21,525 --> 00:07:24,693 Who you vote for locally and nationally will say a lot about 180 00:07:24,736 --> 00:07:27,904 the direction of our educational system and the economy. 181 00:07:27,948 --> 00:07:31,992 Will we stay competitive with the rest of the world? 182 00:07:32,035 --> 00:07:34,536 Now, some elected officials do seem to understand genuinely 183 00:07:34,580 --> 00:07:37,372 the importance of these fields for the future. 184 00:07:37,416 --> 00:07:38,707 And for the ones who don't, well, 185 00:07:38,792 --> 00:07:41,001 maybe it's time they learned a new set of skills. 186 00:07:42,504 --> 00:07:44,880 Coming up, I'm talking with secretary hillary clinton. 187 00:07:47,551 --> 00:07:48,383 - ♪ 188 00:07:50,596 --> 00:07:52,429 - with every new generation of technology, 189 00:07:52,473 --> 00:07:54,764 our lives are totally transformed. 190 00:07:54,808 --> 00:07:56,933 And the newest wave of innovation is automation. 191 00:07:56,977 --> 00:08:00,937 - Man: This is a conventional 18-wheeler that drives itself 192 00:08:00,981 --> 00:08:02,981 thanks to a $30,000 retrofit. 193 00:08:03,025 --> 00:08:05,650 - Man: Introducing do not pay, 194 00:08:05,694 --> 00:08:07,068 one of the world's first robot attorneys. 195 00:08:07,112 --> 00:08:09,779 - Boeing announcing today it plans to start testing 196 00:08:09,823 --> 00:08:12,532 pilotless planes. 197 00:08:12,576 --> 00:08:14,117 - Kal: That sounds terrifying in more ways than one. 198 00:08:14,161 --> 00:08:19,247 Within about 15 years, up to 47% of our current workforce 199 00:08:19,291 --> 00:08:20,749 could be automated, according to some experts. 200 00:08:20,792 --> 00:08:23,460 Even the field of hitchhiking could be automated. 201 00:08:23,504 --> 00:08:26,046 - Hello, I am hitchbot, a hitchhiking robot 202 00:08:26,089 --> 00:08:27,547 from port credit, ontario. 203 00:08:27,591 --> 00:08:30,175 - Kal: But a lot of humans don't seem too worried about it 204 00:08:30,219 --> 00:08:31,635 directly affecting them. 205 00:08:31,678 --> 00:08:33,887 - I don't think a robot could do my job. 206 00:08:33,931 --> 00:08:35,222 - I think there are certain aspects of my job 207 00:08:35,265 --> 00:08:36,765 that could probably be automated. 208 00:08:36,808 --> 00:08:38,183 Uh, but overall, I do not think so. 209 00:08:38,227 --> 00:08:42,062 - To do my job, you have to have empathy and compassion 210 00:08:42,105 --> 00:08:43,939 towards other living beings. 211 00:08:43,982 --> 00:08:45,857 I don't think robots can do that. 212 00:08:45,901 --> 00:08:47,192 - I'm confident that you're always gonna need 213 00:08:47,236 --> 00:08:51,071 that human connection, uh, when it comes to sales. 214 00:08:51,114 --> 00:08:51,905 - I've been working as a personal trainer 215 00:08:51,949 --> 00:08:53,448 for 15 years now. 216 00:08:53,492 --> 00:08:56,243 I do not think a robot could replace me right now. 217 00:08:56,286 --> 00:08:58,578 - Kal: I got some bad news for you. 218 00:08:58,622 --> 00:09:02,165 But look, even if robot trainers, pilotless planes, 219 00:09:02,209 --> 00:09:03,500 and robot attorneys aren't my thing, 220 00:09:03,544 --> 00:09:05,835 I'm actually really excited about how automation 221 00:09:05,879 --> 00:09:08,505 will change the world and revolutionize the workforce. 222 00:09:08,549 --> 00:09:10,090 And I'm not the only one. 223 00:09:10,133 --> 00:09:14,094 By 2022, it's estimated that automation could actually create 224 00:09:14,137 --> 00:09:18,223 58 million more jobs globally than it's set to displace. 225 00:09:18,267 --> 00:09:22,394 And one place preparing for those jobs is girls who code-- 226 00:09:22,437 --> 00:09:25,605 a nonprofit organization that aims to introduce young students 227 00:09:25,649 --> 00:09:27,440 to computer science. 228 00:09:27,484 --> 00:09:28,984 - I am not scared of technology at all. 229 00:09:29,027 --> 00:09:31,903 I welcome it with open arms. 230 00:09:31,947 --> 00:09:33,113 The more technology that we create, 231 00:09:33,156 --> 00:09:36,157 the better our lives will be in the future. 232 00:09:36,201 --> 00:09:40,829 - I have seen so many cool things, uh, being 3d printed, 233 00:09:40,872 --> 00:09:44,749 so many cool things being built in these past few months alone. 234 00:09:44,793 --> 00:09:47,294 And I just can't wait to see more of it 235 00:09:47,337 --> 00:09:47,961 and to see where we end up. 236 00:09:48,005 --> 00:09:49,462 - I love technology. 237 00:09:49,506 --> 00:09:53,592 I'm not scared of technology when it's being used in a way 238 00:09:53,635 --> 00:09:59,556 that is not only accessible, but also in a way that is committed 239 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:03,310 to making sure that humans are at the forefront. 240 00:10:03,353 --> 00:10:06,688 - This enthusiasm for automation has also reached politicians 241 00:10:06,732 --> 00:10:08,189 on both sides of the aisle. 242 00:10:08,233 --> 00:10:11,192 - We should be excited about automation because what it-- 243 00:10:11,236 --> 00:10:13,069 what it could potentially mean 244 00:10:13,113 --> 00:10:15,071 is more time educating ourselves, 245 00:10:15,115 --> 00:10:16,615 more time creating art. 246 00:10:16,658 --> 00:10:19,826 - In an innovative world, where innovation drives the future-- 247 00:10:19,870 --> 00:10:23,788 and I believe that's what we're--we're moving into-- 248 00:10:23,832 --> 00:10:27,959 america wins, because america is the innovator of the world. 249 00:10:28,003 --> 00:10:29,794 - But even if you're excited about the future, 250 00:10:29,838 --> 00:10:32,005 it still leaves us with the question: 251 00:10:32,049 --> 00:10:34,549 How do we prepare for the robot revolution? 252 00:10:34,593 --> 00:10:36,926 - My backup plan would be 253 00:10:36,970 --> 00:10:38,637 probably coding and data science. 254 00:10:38,680 --> 00:10:41,181 - I would love to work in museum translation, 255 00:10:41,224 --> 00:10:42,724 something like that. 256 00:10:42,768 --> 00:10:45,018 - Stay-at-home dog mom and, I don't know, 257 00:10:45,062 --> 00:10:46,811 sell something over instagram, 258 00:10:46,855 --> 00:10:48,313 like a lot of people do nowadays. 259 00:10:48,357 --> 00:10:50,774 - If a robot took my job, I would try to get another one. 260 00:10:50,817 --> 00:10:53,109 But if I couldn't because robots took over the world, 261 00:10:53,153 --> 00:10:54,444 I would move to costa rica 262 00:10:54,488 --> 00:10:59,115 and I would live off the land, probably. [laughs] 263 00:10:59,159 --> 00:11:00,659 - kal: All right, that sounds incredible. 264 00:11:00,702 --> 00:11:01,618 But they probably don't have room for all of us, 265 00:11:01,662 --> 00:11:03,203 so we need a plan. 266 00:11:03,246 --> 00:11:06,164 Maybe liz reynolds, the executive director of 267 00:11:06,208 --> 00:11:07,957 mit's task force on the work of the future, 268 00:11:08,001 --> 00:11:09,501 has a better answer. 269 00:11:09,544 --> 00:11:12,837 - So to the extent that whatever education people are getting 270 00:11:12,881 --> 00:11:17,425 involves an apprenticeship or an internship or a co-op, 271 00:11:17,469 --> 00:11:21,513 that is a great way to develop skills that are really important 272 00:11:21,556 --> 00:11:23,014 in the labor force going forwards. 273 00:11:23,058 --> 00:11:26,810 Government has a critical role to play in helping workers 274 00:11:26,853 --> 00:11:29,062 adjust for the work of the future. 275 00:11:29,106 --> 00:11:31,356 First and foremost is making education 276 00:11:31,400 --> 00:11:33,191 both affordable and accessible. 277 00:11:33,235 --> 00:11:34,651 - Kal: So remember, when we vote, 278 00:11:34,695 --> 00:11:37,737 it's important to look at how our representatives are 279 00:11:37,781 --> 00:11:41,825 investing in us humans, because technology will keep changing, 280 00:11:41,868 --> 00:11:43,493 and so will the economy. 281 00:11:43,537 --> 00:11:45,620 So we all need to get ready for the future. 282 00:11:45,664 --> 00:11:48,248 [robotic voice] I, for one, am looking forward to it. 283 00:11:48,291 --> 00:11:52,711 Coming up, I am talking to secretary hillary clinton. 284 00:11:52,754 --> 00:11:54,212 - ♪ 285 00:11:58,802 --> 00:12:01,177 - ♪ 286 00:12:01,221 --> 00:12:02,512 - welcome back, everybody! 287 00:12:02,556 --> 00:12:05,932 So my guest tonight was a very hated hall monitor 288 00:12:05,976 --> 00:12:07,392 when she was in elementary school, 289 00:12:07,436 --> 00:12:08,435 and we never got over that. 290 00:12:08,478 --> 00:12:09,769 She's also a grammy-winning artist 291 00:12:09,813 --> 00:12:12,522 and happened to be a fantastic secretary of state 292 00:12:12,566 --> 00:12:14,566 and senator from new york. 293 00:12:14,609 --> 00:12:16,651 Please welcome secretary hillary clinton. 294 00:12:16,695 --> 00:12:18,153 - Clinton: Kal, it's great to be with you. 295 00:12:18,196 --> 00:12:20,739 And, uh, were you one of those guys who misbehaved in the hall 296 00:12:20,782 --> 00:12:22,615 or the cafeteria, huh? 297 00:12:22,659 --> 00:12:24,117 - I actually did it the other way. 298 00:12:24,161 --> 00:12:27,662 I was--I was--I think I was student body vice president. 299 00:12:27,706 --> 00:12:30,749 And we would try to get away with as much as possible. 300 00:12:30,792 --> 00:12:32,083 So we would--we would misbehave, 301 00:12:32,127 --> 00:12:34,586 and then the teachers would come to us and say, 302 00:12:34,629 --> 00:12:36,045 "uh, who did that?" 303 00:12:36,089 --> 00:12:40,341 we'd be like, "I--I don't know. I--I couldn't tell you." 304 00:12:40,385 --> 00:12:42,761 tonight's episode is mostly about education. 305 00:12:42,804 --> 00:12:45,305 And we had discussed previously the fields that young people 306 00:12:45,348 --> 00:12:47,807 may wanna consider given the rise in automation. 307 00:12:47,851 --> 00:12:49,392 So we talked about stem. 308 00:12:49,436 --> 00:12:50,977 We talked about university versus trade school. 309 00:12:51,021 --> 00:12:54,939 Back in the day, you know, did you ever think that people could 310 00:12:54,983 --> 00:12:59,569 be replaced by technology in the way that we have been? 311 00:12:59,613 --> 00:13:01,154 - Not to the extent, uh, that we have been. 312 00:13:01,198 --> 00:13:05,784 I mean, obviously we have seen people replaced by technology. 313 00:13:05,827 --> 00:13:09,204 You know, people didn't, uh, drive horse carts when, uh, 314 00:13:09,247 --> 00:13:12,457 I was growing up, as hard as that might be to believe. 315 00:13:12,501 --> 00:13:17,170 Uh, so we knew that jobs were subject to automation. 316 00:13:17,214 --> 00:13:23,718 But the acceleration of robotics and artificial intelligence and 317 00:13:23,762 --> 00:13:28,014 everything that we have seen in the last 25, 30 years is just, 318 00:13:28,058 --> 00:13:32,560 I think, faster than what any of us could have imagined. 319 00:13:32,604 --> 00:13:33,728 - I feel like we've seen really incredible things 320 00:13:33,772 --> 00:13:35,897 from young people recently, right? 321 00:13:35,941 --> 00:13:37,398 Even in promoting the show, seems like a lot of times 322 00:13:37,442 --> 00:13:40,276 journalists are the ones who will ask, "oh, young people, 323 00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:41,486 they don't really care, right?" 324 00:13:41,530 --> 00:13:42,654 I'm like, "what are you talking about? 325 00:13:42,697 --> 00:13:44,948 Open your eyes! Look at what's happening!" 326 00:13:44,991 --> 00:13:46,741 they're the ones who do care. 327 00:13:46,785 --> 00:13:48,993 What are things that have inspired you recently 328 00:13:49,037 --> 00:13:50,829 from youth movements? 329 00:13:50,872 --> 00:13:53,623 - I think the black lives matter movement, 330 00:13:53,667 --> 00:13:56,459 started by three young women, uh, 331 00:13:56,503 --> 00:14:02,006 who have been not only focused, but smart in how they've tried 332 00:14:02,050 --> 00:14:05,426 to pick their targets for change. 333 00:14:05,470 --> 00:14:07,220 And they've gotten allies in city councils, 334 00:14:07,264 --> 00:14:10,056 in state legislatures, and elsewhere. 335 00:14:10,100 --> 00:14:12,767 Uh, I think the climate movement. 336 00:14:12,811 --> 00:14:14,060 You know, it's not just greta thunberg. 337 00:14:14,104 --> 00:14:17,105 It's countless young people. 338 00:14:17,148 --> 00:14:18,982 And--and I mean some really young. 339 00:14:19,025 --> 00:14:21,276 Little kids who now get the fact 340 00:14:21,319 --> 00:14:23,236 that we're destroying our planet. 341 00:14:23,280 --> 00:14:25,238 Come on, people! Wake up! 342 00:14:25,282 --> 00:14:27,657 And young people have been saying this 343 00:14:27,701 --> 00:14:30,910 and increasingly I think are demanding, uh, 344 00:14:30,954 --> 00:14:33,538 that politicians and public officials 345 00:14:33,582 --> 00:14:35,907 either act or get out of the way. 346 00:14:35,917 --> 00:14:37,333 - I'm curious about-- it seems like 347 00:14:37,377 --> 00:14:40,003 you were involved in young republicans in high school, 348 00:14:40,046 --> 00:14:42,964 but then became progressive as you got older. 349 00:14:43,008 --> 00:14:44,090 What changed your views the most? 350 00:14:44,134 --> 00:14:46,301 How did that happen? 351 00:14:46,344 --> 00:14:48,177 - Something happened to me when I was, um, 352 00:14:48,221 --> 00:14:50,638 a senior in high school. 353 00:14:50,682 --> 00:14:52,181 I had two young women teachers. 354 00:14:52,225 --> 00:14:57,478 And they, um, put on a, uh, political convention, 355 00:14:57,522 --> 00:15:00,481 because it was 1964. 356 00:15:00,525 --> 00:15:04,569 So...Because of my father, primarily, you know, 357 00:15:04,613 --> 00:15:06,905 I thought I was supporting republicans. 358 00:15:06,948 --> 00:15:12,744 And so my very smart, uh, government teacher said to me, 359 00:15:12,787 --> 00:15:16,873 "okay, you're gonna represent lyndon johnson." 360 00:15:16,917 --> 00:15:18,207 and she said to my friend, 361 00:15:18,251 --> 00:15:22,420 who was one of the few democrats in our high school, 362 00:15:22,464 --> 00:15:25,048 "you're gonna represent barry goldwater." 363 00:15:25,091 --> 00:15:26,883 oh, we both were very upset, da, da. 364 00:15:26,927 --> 00:15:31,512 But it forced me to actually go to the library and come up with 365 00:15:31,556 --> 00:15:35,642 arguments for a debate about why I supported lyndon johnson. 366 00:15:35,685 --> 00:15:39,771 So I really began to go, "oh, wait a minute, you know? 367 00:15:39,814 --> 00:15:41,314 Maybe--maybe there's something to this." 368 00:15:41,358 --> 00:15:45,526 and then by the time I got to college, I was actually, um, 369 00:15:45,570 --> 00:15:47,987 elected president of the young republicans 370 00:15:48,031 --> 00:15:49,364 my very first year in college. 371 00:15:49,407 --> 00:15:53,451 But by December of that first year, I decided, you know, 372 00:15:53,495 --> 00:15:54,786 "I don't buy this." 373 00:15:54,829 --> 00:15:55,578 - when I had the chance to book you, 374 00:15:55,622 --> 00:15:56,913 this reminds me of this-- 375 00:15:56,957 --> 00:15:59,165 several conversations I had with friends, right? 376 00:15:59,209 --> 00:16:00,959 Said, "I think secretary clinton 377 00:16:01,002 --> 00:16:03,336 has agreed to join us for our show." 378 00:16:03,380 --> 00:16:06,005 there was a lot of pushback from democratic friends. 379 00:16:06,049 --> 00:16:07,382 Um, and I know that you know it's there. 380 00:16:07,425 --> 00:16:09,467 It's sort of like, "oh, she might be too polarizing. 381 00:16:09,511 --> 00:16:13,096 "do you--do you really want a polarizing guest on--on 382 00:16:13,139 --> 00:16:14,180 "an episode of this new show 383 00:16:14,224 --> 00:16:15,765 that's encouraging people to vote?" 384 00:16:15,809 --> 00:16:18,309 and I just thought--I wanted to ask you how that makes you feel, 385 00:16:18,353 --> 00:16:19,727 whether it's exhausting. 386 00:16:19,771 --> 00:16:22,397 Because to me, it's sort of like how kumail nanjiani 387 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:24,399 is getting all the acting jobs 388 00:16:24,442 --> 00:16:26,484 now that he's ripped and way funnier than me. 389 00:16:26,528 --> 00:16:28,820 Uh, is that frustrating? Is it exhausting? 390 00:16:28,863 --> 00:16:30,238 Or is that just part of how it is? 391 00:16:30,281 --> 00:16:32,073 - Now, why I am polarizing? 392 00:16:32,117 --> 00:16:33,408 Well, you know, I'm a kind of pushy woman, 393 00:16:33,451 --> 00:16:34,659 if you really stop to think about it. 394 00:16:34,703 --> 00:16:40,164 And I've also pushed hard on a lot of issues 395 00:16:40,208 --> 00:16:42,041 that I care deeply about. 396 00:16:42,085 --> 00:16:45,003 You know, back when I was first lady, um, 397 00:16:45,046 --> 00:16:48,506 and was advocating for universal healthcare, uh, 398 00:16:48,550 --> 00:16:50,091 I was burned in effigy. 399 00:16:50,135 --> 00:16:53,469 Now, was I polarizing because I thought everybody in the country 400 00:16:53,513 --> 00:16:57,223 should have access to quality, affordable healthcare? 401 00:16:57,267 --> 00:17:01,519 Or was I the, you know-- the figurehead, ah, 402 00:17:01,563 --> 00:17:03,354 that was then targeted because 403 00:17:03,398 --> 00:17:05,606 there are a lot of really powerful interests 404 00:17:05,650 --> 00:17:08,484 who don't want us to have, uh, universal healthcare, 405 00:17:08,528 --> 00:17:10,028 no matter what you call it. 406 00:17:10,071 --> 00:17:13,114 Whether you call it universal healthcare, medicare for all, 407 00:17:13,158 --> 00:17:15,658 whatever you call it, there are a lot of powerful interests, ah, 408 00:17:15,702 --> 00:17:17,076 that don't want you to have it. 409 00:17:17,120 --> 00:17:23,041 So I have been literally in the cauldron of, you know, 410 00:17:23,084 --> 00:17:26,419 tough political fights for more than 30 years. 411 00:17:26,463 --> 00:17:31,090 And I know that people go, "oh my gosh, it's so exhausting. 412 00:17:31,134 --> 00:17:33,468 "you know, maybe if she went away, 413 00:17:33,511 --> 00:17:35,219 we wouldn't have these fights." 414 00:17:35,263 --> 00:17:37,305 well, I'm here to tell you it's not about me. 415 00:17:37,348 --> 00:17:38,890 It's about the fight. 416 00:17:38,933 --> 00:17:41,350 - Can we play a quick game with you? 417 00:17:41,394 --> 00:17:42,894 - Sure. - This was--so over the years, 418 00:17:42,937 --> 00:17:44,312 you know, there have been buzzy voting blocks 419 00:17:44,355 --> 00:17:45,855 that people talk about, 420 00:17:45,899 --> 00:17:47,231 like soccer moms. - Yeah. 421 00:17:47,275 --> 00:17:48,399 - Uh, so I will give you some voting blocks, 422 00:17:48,443 --> 00:17:50,443 and you tell me if they're real or fake-- 423 00:17:50,487 --> 00:17:51,986 - [laughs] 424 00:17:52,030 --> 00:17:55,073 - --according to at least one semi-legitimate news source. 425 00:17:55,116 --> 00:17:56,616 Are you up for that? - Okay. 426 00:17:56,659 --> 00:17:58,618 - Okay, all right. We'll set a timer. 427 00:17:58,661 --> 00:18:00,703 Uh, here we go. Uh, nascar dads. 428 00:18:00,747 --> 00:18:02,914 Real or fake? - Oh yeah, absolutely. 429 00:18:02,957 --> 00:18:04,582 - Real. That is real, from espn. 430 00:18:04,626 --> 00:18:07,668 Uh, office park dads. 431 00:18:07,712 --> 00:18:08,878 - Yes, that's real too. - Also real. 432 00:18:08,922 --> 00:18:11,255 That is correct. Wow, okay, two in row. 433 00:18:11,299 --> 00:18:12,757 Uh, panera voters. 434 00:18:14,636 --> 00:18:16,844 - No. - That was real. 435 00:18:16,888 --> 00:18:18,096 There was a vox article-- - oh, really? 436 00:18:18,139 --> 00:18:19,597 - Yeah, I was very surprised too. 437 00:18:19,641 --> 00:18:22,517 A vox article that referred to a group as panera voters. 438 00:18:22,560 --> 00:18:26,229 Uh--uh, "south park" republicans. 439 00:18:26,272 --> 00:18:27,146 - Ooh. 440 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:31,400 Yes. - Correct. 441 00:18:31,444 --> 00:18:32,610 It was "city journal" and andrew sullivan. 442 00:18:32,654 --> 00:18:33,444 - [laughs] 443 00:18:33,488 --> 00:18:34,987 - you did--you did well. 444 00:18:35,031 --> 00:18:37,281 When I--when I got this list and we were going through them, 445 00:18:37,325 --> 00:18:38,574 I got none of them right. 446 00:18:38,618 --> 00:18:40,159 Uh, so well--well done. 447 00:18:40,203 --> 00:18:43,371 - I have spent a lot more time than you have looking at how 448 00:18:43,414 --> 00:18:48,626 pollsters and--and consumer, uh, analysts have-- 449 00:18:48,670 --> 00:18:49,836 divide people up, you know? 450 00:18:49,879 --> 00:18:51,337 Rather than bringing people together, 451 00:18:51,381 --> 00:18:53,923 let's segment them into as many different little, you know, 452 00:18:53,967 --> 00:18:55,007 groups as we can. 453 00:18:55,051 --> 00:18:56,134 - So unfair advantage. 454 00:18:56,177 --> 00:18:57,135 You had way better briefing materials-- 455 00:18:57,178 --> 00:18:58,052 - secretary clinton: Yeah, I did. 456 00:18:58,096 --> 00:18:59,720 I think so. - --Than I did. 457 00:18:59,764 --> 00:19:03,474 Thank you, secretary clinton, for joining us this evening. 458 00:19:03,518 --> 00:19:04,559 It's really an honor to have you, 459 00:19:04,602 --> 00:19:05,852 and I appreciate your insights. 460 00:19:05,895 --> 00:19:07,562 - Oh, thank you. 461 00:19:07,605 --> 00:19:09,605 It's great to talk to you again, kal. 462 00:19:09,649 --> 00:19:10,314 - Likewise. Good to see you. Thank you. 463 00:19:10,358 --> 00:19:12,650 - ♪ 464 00:19:16,156 --> 00:19:18,281 - ♪ 465 00:19:18,324 --> 00:19:20,074 - hey, man. 466 00:19:20,118 --> 00:19:21,784 Secretary clinton just texted me. 467 00:19:21,828 --> 00:19:24,453 Um, were you talking shit about me? 468 00:19:24,497 --> 00:19:25,872 - [nervous chuckle] 469 00:19:25,915 --> 00:19:26,914 always nice to hear from my friends. 470 00:19:26,958 --> 00:19:28,249 Before we say goodnight, you know, 471 00:19:28,293 --> 00:19:30,084 I'd like to leave you with something you can do. 472 00:19:30,119 --> 00:19:32,420 In this case, to prepare for our changing economy. 473 00:19:32,463 --> 00:19:36,549 So a macro action that you can take is help start a club 474 00:19:36,593 --> 00:19:39,969 in your community by becoming a girls who code facilitator. 475 00:19:40,013 --> 00:19:42,513 They're a great nonprofit organization which aims to 476 00:19:42,557 --> 00:19:46,100 support and increase the number of women in computer science. 477 00:19:46,144 --> 00:19:48,603 The best part is you don't even need technical experience 478 00:19:48,646 --> 00:19:50,271 to get involved. 479 00:19:50,315 --> 00:19:51,814 But if you are interested in coding, 480 00:19:51,858 --> 00:19:53,107 here's your micro action. 481 00:19:53,151 --> 00:19:54,525 Just download a fun coding app. 482 00:19:54,569 --> 00:19:57,945 Investing in a new skill for just five minutes a day 483 00:19:57,989 --> 00:19:59,864 can really pay off in the long run. 484 00:19:59,908 --> 00:20:01,324 It can also give you something to talk about 485 00:20:01,367 --> 00:20:04,285 when your nephew comes to town, like, uh, "hey, tenzin, 486 00:20:04,329 --> 00:20:06,829 "my ternary operator totally crashed and my angular injected 487 00:20:06,873 --> 00:20:09,415 "into a controller and minified 488 00:20:09,459 --> 00:20:10,917 "to something like x or c. 489 00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:12,960 Isn't that crazy?" 490 00:20:13,004 --> 00:20:14,420 look, we can all be prepared for the future 491 00:20:14,464 --> 00:20:16,047 and still have it be fun. 492 00:20:16,090 --> 00:20:18,758 And as always, register to vote. 493 00:20:18,801 --> 00:20:21,177 Go to kalpennapprovesvoting.Com. 494 00:20:21,221 --> 00:20:22,720 I'll see you next week. 495 00:20:22,764 --> 00:20:24,388 In the meantime, here's something awesome. 496 00:20:26,184 --> 00:20:28,935 - Balla's life. I know. 497 00:20:28,978 --> 00:20:30,228 - Man: You made it. 498 00:20:30,271 --> 00:20:30,811 - No! - Man: You did. 499 00:20:36,277 --> 00:20:37,693 Woo-hoo! 500 00:20:37,737 --> 00:20:39,570 - Man: I heard the haters were talking crap about you 501 00:20:39,614 --> 00:20:42,782 on the internet. - Well, can the haters do this? 502 00:20:49,999 --> 00:20:50,581 I call that the [bleep] shot. 503 00:20:50,616 --> 00:20:51,699 [laughs] 42150

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