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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:42,241 --> 00:00:45,908 Space missions to the moon, 2 00:00:47,860 --> 00:00:50,710 50 years later, these incredible adventures 3 00:00:50,710 --> 00:00:52,543 still appeal to the imagination. 4 00:00:57,400 --> 00:01:00,630 Pioneers who traveled to the moon are celebrated 5 00:01:00,630 --> 00:01:03,590 like fearless heroes who risked their lives 6 00:01:03,590 --> 00:01:06,503 to add to the honor and glory of humanity. 7 00:01:14,120 --> 00:01:15,530 No, May. 8 00:01:15,530 --> 00:01:18,110 Everyone who was involved in some way 9 00:01:18,110 --> 00:01:20,340 with these space adventures I could count 10 00:01:20,340 --> 00:01:23,143 with esteem, respect and fame. 11 00:01:26,780 --> 00:01:28,933 But a man was not so lucky, 12 00:01:33,900 --> 00:01:36,323 the artist, Paul Van Hoeydonck. 13 00:01:37,201 --> 00:01:41,761 - I expected to be more famous than Picasso. 14 00:01:41,761 --> 00:01:45,363 On the contrary, people hated me. 15 00:01:46,420 --> 00:01:49,110 Why the hell this talented artist 16 00:01:49,110 --> 00:01:52,493 from the Belgian city, Wijnegem, was he so hated? 17 00:01:54,320 --> 00:01:56,693 The answer is on the moon. 18 00:01:58,570 --> 00:02:02,617 It is this small sculpture with the name "Fallen Astronaut". 19 00:02:04,120 --> 00:02:09,120 It was taken to the moon in 1971 by the Apollo 15 team. 20 00:02:11,300 --> 00:02:13,480 This little work of art has been converted 21 00:02:13,480 --> 00:02:17,280 on a humiliating issues that led to NASA 22 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:20,617 and the group of astronauts to an embarrassing situation. 23 00:02:20,617 --> 00:02:22,457 - "If this thing becomes a big thing 24 00:02:22,457 --> 00:02:24,597 "with the 'Fallen Astronaut' 25 00:02:24,597 --> 00:02:26,987 "someone is going to find out about Bulova watches, 26 00:02:26,987 --> 00:02:28,487 "they will find out about the covers, 27 00:02:28,487 --> 00:02:30,247 "they will discover all this, 28 00:02:30,247 --> 00:02:32,120 "you know, i'm going to have a big problem." 29 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:34,640 - Everyone has a lot of buried stuff. 30 00:02:34,640 --> 00:02:35,473 And this is what happened. 31 00:02:35,473 --> 00:02:37,750 It was a very negative moment. 32 00:02:37,750 --> 00:02:40,720 - We were a scandal in America, why? 33 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:42,660 - And we were all punished and sent away 34 00:02:42,660 --> 00:02:46,310 and surprisingly, the only guy from the three of us 35 00:02:46,310 --> 00:02:48,860 who were not fired 36 00:02:48,860 --> 00:02:51,560 and was asked to leave Houston, it was Dave Scott. 37 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:56,560 - Paul was being harassed by the US government, which, 38 00:02:58,330 --> 00:03:00,750 basically turned against him 39 00:03:00,750 --> 00:03:04,370 for doing something that was not approved by NASA 40 00:03:04,370 --> 00:03:07,070 and he then left the country. 41 00:03:07,070 --> 00:03:07,903 - My lawyer said: 42 00:03:07,903 --> 00:03:09,733 "Paul, make your lunch, go back to Belgium. 43 00:03:09,733 --> 00:03:11,830 I said, "Why didn't I do that?" 44 00:03:11,830 --> 00:03:14,137 He said, "You know, pay attention, 45 00:03:14,137 --> 00:03:16,503 "when you enter the United States in a prison, 46 00:03:18,177 --> 00:03:20,947 "you have to get out of this." 47 00:03:20,947 --> 00:03:23,540 Paul Van Hoeydonck's small sculpture 48 00:03:23,540 --> 00:03:26,183 it is the only work of art outside our planet. 49 00:03:28,030 --> 00:03:30,250 It's a fascinating story it's a 50 00:03:30,250 --> 00:03:34,218 of the most intriguing stories of the Apollo missions. 51 00:03:38,516 --> 00:03:41,562 The Fallen Astronaut 52 00:03:43,554 --> 00:03:46,488 A sculpture that died on the way to the moon 53 00:03:51,890 --> 00:03:55,490 All his life, Paul Van Hoeydonck makes art 54 00:03:55,490 --> 00:03:57,953 related to space and space travel. 55 00:03:59,790 --> 00:04:04,790 His art is called space art, a symbiosis of art and science. 56 00:04:09,110 --> 00:04:11,250 - Paul's work, 57 00:04:11,250 --> 00:04:15,783 in my mind, it's a synthesis of humans and machines. 58 00:04:16,700 --> 00:04:21,700 And this is very spatial, I mean, it's a synergistic concept 59 00:04:23,380 --> 00:04:26,940 that we will probably have to get used to more 60 00:04:26,940 --> 00:04:30,590 and more in the future, where man and machine will work together 61 00:04:30,590 --> 00:04:32,130 to accomplish something. 62 00:04:32,130 --> 00:04:33,930 And I think Paul is perhaps one of the first 63 00:04:33,930 --> 00:04:37,220 this is taken to that point. 64 00:04:37,220 --> 00:04:40,660 I'm not a great art person, I don't know art that well, 65 00:04:40,660 --> 00:04:42,370 but I know that when I see something I like 66 00:04:42,370 --> 00:04:47,370 and these I like, because, instantly, in my mind, 67 00:04:47,590 --> 00:04:49,070 speak of space. 68 00:04:49,070 --> 00:04:52,500 - All your art has always been about space. 69 00:04:52,500 --> 00:04:53,640 So it was very appropriate 70 00:04:53,640 --> 00:04:56,860 that he should be the person to go to the moon, right? 71 00:04:56,860 --> 00:04:58,707 Paul created the little sculpture, 72 00:04:58,707 --> 00:05:02,533 "Fallen Astronaut" in the summer of 1971. 73 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:05,730 Until recently, Paul declined 74 00:05:05,730 --> 00:05:07,963 to talk about his work of art on the moon. 75 00:05:09,477 --> 00:05:12,090 "Fallen Astronaut" ruined his career, 76 00:05:12,090 --> 00:05:13,723 yes, even his life. 77 00:05:18,430 --> 00:05:21,213 Now he is ready to tell his story. 78 00:05:23,470 --> 00:05:27,510 Together with Paul, we will try to find the true story 79 00:05:27,510 --> 00:05:29,863 behind this little man on the moon. 80 00:05:30,900 --> 00:05:35,203 - Well, this is the first job I did in white on white, 81 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:38,390 with an astronaut or something. 82 00:05:38,390 --> 00:05:39,603 1961 83 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:44,243 I show how I showed the image of the moon. 84 00:06:03,853 --> 00:06:06,390 - When you're reading all these letters, 85 00:06:06,390 --> 00:06:10,960 when you see all these pictures, 86 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:15,610 you're living a story, a dream story. 87 00:06:15,610 --> 00:06:19,480 Not just the goal, this sculpture on the moon, 88 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:23,663 but how everyone can make their dreams come true. 89 00:06:39,278 --> 00:06:41,730 Paul Van Hoeydonck's artwork always aimed 90 00:06:41,730 --> 00:06:45,220 look as far ahead as possible. 91 00:06:45,220 --> 00:06:48,160 Exploring the possibilities of the future is a 92 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:50,403 of your most important missions. 93 00:06:53,420 --> 00:06:56,850 Discoveries in space in the 1950s 94 00:06:56,850 --> 00:06:59,993 they are a huge stimulant for your artistic ambitions. 95 00:07:02,700 --> 00:07:06,690 At the 1958 Brussels World Exhibition, 96 00:07:06,690 --> 00:07:08,340 the Russians were doing an exhibition 97 00:07:08,340 --> 00:07:10,173 of a replica of Sputnik. 98 00:07:12,100 --> 00:07:15,940 This small satellite marks the beginning of the space race 99 00:07:15,940 --> 00:07:18,813 between the United States and the Soviet Union. 100 00:07:20,740 --> 00:07:25,088 It inspires Paul to take new directions in his work. 101 00:07:36,460 --> 00:07:39,223 Paul is considered to belong to the Zero Group. 102 00:07:41,170 --> 00:07:44,900 It's the name, taken from the countdown to a rocket launch, 103 00:07:44,900 --> 00:07:47,883 it should indicate a new period in art. 104 00:07:56,667 --> 00:08:00,160 In 1961, the Russians placed the first man 105 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:02,153 in an orbit around the Earth. 106 00:08:03,630 --> 00:08:05,390 Paul's imagination travels 107 00:08:05,390 --> 00:08:09,280 along with this first leap into space. 108 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:11,910 It creates trips out of the planet to give 109 00:08:11,910 --> 00:08:13,723 expression for new destinations. 110 00:08:16,480 --> 00:08:18,880 Following the advice of the New York lawyer 111 00:08:18,880 --> 00:08:21,470 and art collector, Harry Torczyner, 112 00:08:21,470 --> 00:08:25,073 Paul traveled to America in 1962. 113 00:08:26,050 --> 00:08:28,620 At that time, New York was considered 114 00:08:28,620 --> 00:08:31,080 as the new center for modern art. 115 00:08:32,290 --> 00:08:35,273 Paul is at Dick Waddell's art gallery. 116 00:08:37,680 --> 00:08:40,110 The connections between your space art 117 00:08:40,110 --> 00:08:41,970 and incidents in space, 118 00:08:41,970 --> 00:08:45,430 repeatedly draw attention to their work. 119 00:08:45,430 --> 00:08:46,993 - Well, one day I made such a big painting 120 00:08:46,993 --> 00:08:51,420 as a normal form of man, an astronaut in space, 121 00:08:51,420 --> 00:08:53,263 losing your glove. 122 00:08:56,008 --> 00:09:00,047 A few months later, one of them lost his glove 123 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:03,043 while taking his first walk. 124 00:09:04,110 --> 00:09:07,900 You explain that. (mysterious music) 125 00:09:19,770 --> 00:09:21,610 Paul uses trash and found objects 126 00:09:21,610 --> 00:09:23,473 to create your futuristic work. 127 00:09:27,090 --> 00:09:28,940 That�s why he�s designated 128 00:09:28,940 --> 00:09:31,203 as the archaeologist of the future. 129 00:09:34,310 --> 00:09:37,597 Van Hoeydonck's space art is also known outside of New York 130 00:09:37,597 --> 00:09:39,270 and there are exhibitions 131 00:09:39,270 --> 00:09:42,193 in Chicago, Houston and Washington. 132 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:47,160 - I had a great exposure in Washington 133 00:09:47,160 --> 00:09:51,650 in a very big museum with my works on the moon. 134 00:09:51,650 --> 00:09:53,857 And there were some people from NASA 135 00:09:53,857 --> 00:09:56,267 and they said, "You are one of us. 136 00:09:56,267 --> 00:09:59,208 "You have to come to NASA." 137 00:09:59,208 --> 00:10:02,880 So I went to NASA for the first time. 138 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:04,930 As a special guest at NASA, 139 00:10:04,930 --> 00:10:07,283 Van Hoeydonck pays a visit to Cape Kennedy. 140 00:10:09,220 --> 00:10:10,800 Paul feels that he landed 141 00:10:10,800 --> 00:10:14,179 in the most romantic place on earth. 142 00:10:14,179 --> 00:10:15,748 The mission sequence begins. 143 00:10:15,748 --> 00:10:20,748 Six, five, four. 144 00:10:28,013 --> 00:10:30,230 The launch of Apollo 6, 145 00:10:30,230 --> 00:10:32,330 that he is invited to testify, 146 00:10:32,330 --> 00:10:35,909 it is an important test for the mission on the moon. 147 00:10:38,660 --> 00:10:40,710 When Paul returns to New York, 148 00:10:40,710 --> 00:10:43,410 the premiere of a science fiction film on Broadway 149 00:10:43,410 --> 00:10:45,290 attracts your attention. 150 00:10:45,290 --> 00:10:49,247 It is by Stanley Kubrick, "Space Adventure 2001". 151 00:10:50,340 --> 00:10:52,820 - I was walking on one of the avenues 152 00:10:52,820 --> 00:10:54,370 and there was a great movie. 153 00:10:54,370 --> 00:10:56,590 The first sound 154 00:10:56,590 --> 00:10:57,423 of that 155 00:10:58,642 --> 00:11:00,770 nice picture-- 156 00:11:00,770 --> 00:11:02,360 Paul is especially impressed 157 00:11:02,360 --> 00:11:05,130 by a mysterious black rock found by astronauts 158 00:11:05,130 --> 00:11:07,100 in a lunar crater. 159 00:11:07,100 --> 00:11:09,530 - It was a monumental stone, not only that, 160 00:11:10,903 --> 00:11:12,483 and made a great impression on me. 161 00:11:12,483 --> 00:11:16,793 I said, "My God, this is not a sculpture, 162 00:11:18,161 --> 00:11:20,977 "is speaking another language." 163 00:11:23,300 --> 00:11:24,760 The Kubrick movie play 164 00:11:24,760 --> 00:11:28,263 makes Paul dream of placing a work of art in space. 165 00:11:30,470 --> 00:11:32,280 He recalls that dream in a book 166 00:11:32,280 --> 00:11:34,990 with an overview of his space art 167 00:11:34,990 --> 00:11:39,793 and he prophetically places himself and his art on the moon. 168 00:11:41,130 --> 00:11:44,570 Waddell Gallery manager Louise Deutschman, 169 00:11:44,570 --> 00:11:47,953 is intrigued by Paul's obsession with space travel. 170 00:11:49,130 --> 00:11:50,230 In an exhibition 171 00:11:50,230 --> 00:11:53,527 she proposes her lunar project to Dick Waddell. 172 00:11:53,527 --> 00:11:56,540 - "Why don't we put a sculpture of Paul on the moon?" 173 00:11:56,540 --> 00:11:57,960 I heard, I entered 174 00:11:57,960 --> 00:12:00,330 and said, "You are crazy, you are crazy." 175 00:12:00,330 --> 00:12:02,360 Louise Deutschman pays no attention 176 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:05,143 to Paul�s comments and she contacts NASA. 177 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:10,220 Meanwhile, in Houston, the final preparations are being made 178 00:12:10,220 --> 00:12:14,783 for the first moon landing, the Apollo 11 mission. 179 00:12:17,040 --> 00:12:20,630 NASA resolutely rejects its proposal 180 00:12:21,680 --> 00:12:25,600 and so on July 20, 1969, 181 00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:29,480 Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin place the US flag 182 00:12:29,480 --> 00:12:30,740 on the moon, 183 00:12:30,740 --> 00:12:32,753 but not a work of art. 184 00:12:34,300 --> 00:12:37,123 Louise Deutschman thinks of an alternative plan. 185 00:12:38,640 --> 00:12:41,160 During the prelude to the second moon landing, 186 00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:43,363 she sends Paul to Cocoa Beach. 187 00:12:44,780 --> 00:12:48,410 Paul has to try to make contact with the astronauts. 188 00:12:48,410 --> 00:12:51,170 - Cocoa Beach is a very open city. 189 00:12:51,170 --> 00:12:53,800 Many things happening, parasites, 190 00:12:53,800 --> 00:12:57,503 many people that we would now consider groupies, 191 00:12:58,530 --> 00:12:59,603 were close by. 192 00:13:00,640 --> 00:13:03,490 Paul stays in Cocoa Beach for several weeks, 193 00:13:04,470 --> 00:13:07,230 but making contact with the astronauts ends 194 00:13:07,230 --> 00:13:10,212 being an impossible task for Paul. 195 00:13:13,930 --> 00:13:15,770 When Apollo 12 is released, 196 00:13:15,770 --> 00:13:18,270 your dream of a work of art on the moon 197 00:13:18,270 --> 00:13:20,691 it seems farther than ever. 198 00:13:38,850 --> 00:13:41,160 However, in New York City, 199 00:13:41,160 --> 00:13:43,593 Louise Deutschman will not give up. 200 00:13:44,910 --> 00:13:47,780 She addresses all her contacts in the art world 201 00:13:47,780 --> 00:13:50,033 for advice on your lunar project. 202 00:13:51,070 --> 00:13:55,013 A year later, she finally finds a man who can help her, 203 00:13:57,650 --> 00:13:59,890 someone who worked for NASA 204 00:13:59,890 --> 00:14:03,700 and now runs a printing company on Bank Street. 205 00:14:03,700 --> 00:14:04,860 - When I met George, 206 00:14:04,860 --> 00:14:07,560 he had a small room in his apartment 207 00:14:08,460 --> 00:14:13,460 that was top to bottom with the photographs 208 00:14:13,620 --> 00:14:18,620 of anything to do with the mission when he worked for NASA. 209 00:14:19,830 --> 00:14:21,730 George Goodstadt cooperated 210 00:14:21,730 --> 00:14:26,658 in the design of the crew badges for Apollo 13 and 14. 211 00:14:26,658 --> 00:14:29,350 That's how he meets someone with strong connections 212 00:14:29,350 --> 00:14:31,460 with many astronauts, 213 00:14:31,460 --> 00:14:34,413 is a former professional player from Connecticut. 214 00:14:35,520 --> 00:14:37,600 Now a public relations officer at Lacoste, 215 00:14:37,600 --> 00:14:39,983 he is always looking for good deals. 216 00:14:40,860 --> 00:14:42,800 - And all these ideas started to come to him 217 00:14:42,800 --> 00:14:46,330 things on the moon, golf balls, golf clubs, 218 00:14:46,330 --> 00:14:48,050 hit a golf ball on the moon, 219 00:14:48,050 --> 00:14:51,780 a famous shot, of course, hitting a golf ball on the moon. 220 00:14:51,780 --> 00:14:54,103 Direct as a given, one more. 221 00:14:56,136 --> 00:14:58,840 Miles and miles and miles. 222 00:14:58,840 --> 00:15:03,160 - So hitting golf balls became a big deal on the moon, wow! 223 00:15:03,160 --> 00:15:05,827 So he kind of tied it all up 224 00:15:05,827 --> 00:15:07,700 and it worked very well. 225 00:15:07,700 --> 00:15:10,620 - Danny Lawler was a representative 226 00:15:10,620 --> 00:15:14,220 from the Izod sportswear line, 227 00:15:14,220 --> 00:15:18,020 In fact, I think he probably represented a lot of companies. 228 00:15:18,020 --> 00:15:20,450 - And the company, Lacoste, loved it, 229 00:15:20,450 --> 00:15:22,267 they loved this free advertising. 230 00:15:22,267 --> 00:15:24,167 "These famous people are wearing our clothes 231 00:15:24,167 --> 00:15:25,620 "because of Danny Lawler." 232 00:15:25,620 --> 00:15:27,380 - And he was the one 233 00:15:28,940 --> 00:15:32,850 joined NASA and the Waddell Gallery. 234 00:15:32,850 --> 00:15:35,310 Apollo 15 astronaut Jim Irwin 235 00:15:35,310 --> 00:15:38,200 also wears Danny's Lacoste shirts. 236 00:15:38,200 --> 00:15:40,953 Jim will travel to the moon in a few months. 237 00:15:42,020 --> 00:15:44,760 During a golf lesson, Danny asks Jim 238 00:15:44,760 --> 00:15:48,350 if he can take a small sculpture with him on his PPK. 239 00:15:48,350 --> 00:15:52,270 - A PPK is a personal preference kit, 240 00:15:52,270 --> 00:15:54,140 and contained all the particular things 241 00:15:54,140 --> 00:15:55,860 to take on the flight. 242 00:15:55,860 --> 00:15:57,570 You are limited to how much you can carry, 243 00:15:57,570 --> 00:16:00,990 you can only carry 2.2 kg of material, 244 00:16:00,990 --> 00:16:03,110 so, most of the time flags were carried, 245 00:16:03,110 --> 00:16:07,220 we carry pins and small things for people. 246 00:16:07,220 --> 00:16:09,360 - We have a heavy situation, which he always told me, 247 00:16:09,360 --> 00:16:11,770 you just can't stack a lot of things there. 248 00:16:11,770 --> 00:16:13,080 And at that time 249 00:16:13,080 --> 00:16:15,530 I believe that astronauts were not allowed 250 00:16:15,530 --> 00:16:17,050 to profit from that kind of thing. 251 00:16:17,050 --> 00:16:18,777 They couldn't turn around and say, 252 00:16:18,777 --> 00:16:21,880 "Hi, I ate this chocolate bar and took it to the moon" 253 00:16:21,880 --> 00:16:24,110 you can't do that, so it was a no. 254 00:16:24,110 --> 00:16:25,280 So you had to be very, very careful 255 00:16:25,280 --> 00:16:28,170 about what you brought, in terms of weight, 256 00:16:28,170 --> 00:16:30,730 and you couldn't do that to make a profit. 257 00:16:30,730 --> 00:16:32,140 Jim Irwin is prepared 258 00:16:32,140 --> 00:16:34,610 take a work of art to the moon for Danny, 259 00:16:34,610 --> 00:16:37,103 as long as it's not too big and heavy. 260 00:16:39,470 --> 00:16:42,230 Dick Waddell suggests that Paul create something 261 00:16:42,230 --> 00:16:46,420 along the lines of a small multiple that he did before 262 00:16:46,420 --> 00:16:48,163 for its exhibition in Chicago. 263 00:16:49,600 --> 00:16:52,517 - After my dealer said, "Let's try 264 00:16:52,517 --> 00:16:56,060 "bring something to the moon", I went back to Belgium 265 00:16:56,060 --> 00:16:57,887 and because I was (speaking in a foreign language). 266 00:16:59,420 --> 00:17:03,800 And I said to my son, "What are we going to do?" 267 00:17:03,800 --> 00:17:05,705 And we have (speaking in a foreign language), 268 00:17:05,705 --> 00:17:08,990 a kind of thing that children are playing. 269 00:17:08,990 --> 00:17:10,390 And so it happened 270 00:17:10,390 --> 00:17:14,110 that Patrick, 11, created the first design 271 00:17:14,110 --> 00:17:17,053 for a sculpture on the moon, together with his father. 272 00:17:24,100 --> 00:17:27,480 - The Paul Van Hoeydonck project started, for me, 273 00:17:27,480 --> 00:17:31,933 when I was approached by Paul or his dealer, 274 00:17:33,180 --> 00:17:38,003 Dick Waddell, to collaborate in the creation of a sculpture. 275 00:17:39,330 --> 00:17:42,800 I had no idea what to do and it was very difficult 276 00:17:42,800 --> 00:17:45,440 and it was more of a model. 277 00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:49,530 It was really just the beginning of him expressing an idea 278 00:17:49,530 --> 00:17:52,313 this would have to be refined and completed. 279 00:18:01,700 --> 00:18:05,020 We did what we did with many creative artists, 280 00:18:05,020 --> 00:18:07,000 when I said, "How big is it?" 281 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:10,382 And Paul said, "That big." 282 00:18:10,382 --> 00:18:12,000 And he just used his hands 283 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:14,940 to show me the size he imagined. 284 00:18:14,940 --> 00:18:17,480 And once I knew the height of the piece, 285 00:18:17,480 --> 00:18:19,640 so I was able to do all the other dimensions, 286 00:18:19,640 --> 00:18:20,840 working from height. 287 00:18:21,701 --> 00:18:23,442 - And we needed a few months, you know, 288 00:18:23,442 --> 00:18:27,070 before we agreed that this would be the sculpture. 289 00:18:27,070 --> 00:18:30,950 - After collaborating for a while, 290 00:18:30,950 --> 00:18:34,010 we create a design 291 00:18:34,010 --> 00:18:37,320 of the final image we made 292 00:18:37,320 --> 00:18:40,003 and I personally sculpt this out of aluminum. 293 00:18:42,630 --> 00:18:46,630 - We designed it on an acrylic tube 294 00:18:49,800 --> 00:18:53,923 to explain to people that the man was going to the stars. 295 00:19:01,120 --> 00:19:04,300 Six weeks before the launch of Apollo 15, 296 00:19:04,300 --> 00:19:06,850 Danny Lawler organizes a friendly meeting 297 00:19:06,850 --> 00:19:09,933 between Paul and the team at Cocoa Beach. 298 00:19:10,930 --> 00:19:14,410 - I went to Cabo and had a meeting with them 299 00:19:14,410 --> 00:19:16,220 a restaurant 300 00:19:16,220 --> 00:19:18,330 - Yes, we had a meeting with Paul. 301 00:19:18,330 --> 00:19:20,270 In fact, Paul was very pleasant 302 00:19:20,270 --> 00:19:23,210 and we made some individual statues for each of us. 303 00:19:23,210 --> 00:19:24,760 Through the book "Space Art", 304 00:19:24,760 --> 00:19:26,425 astronauts know Paul's work 305 00:19:30,520 --> 00:19:33,780 that shows the glory of exploring space, 306 00:19:33,780 --> 00:19:36,993 but also its dark sides, like the space accident. 307 00:19:37,910 --> 00:19:41,000 - That's when I felt something I had to learn, 308 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:46,000 that life in space is as dangerous as living on Earth. 309 00:19:46,680 --> 00:19:51,680 That dying is something that is the future of every planet, 310 00:19:52,840 --> 00:19:56,500 every man, every animal, every flower 311 00:19:57,690 --> 00:20:00,020 and that we have to accept that. 312 00:20:00,020 --> 00:20:02,580 Astronauts are impressed by their works 313 00:20:02,580 --> 00:20:04,560 and Paul, in turn, explains to them 314 00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:07,310 how he admires their world. 315 00:20:07,310 --> 00:20:09,537 - Because I said to them, "In my eyes, 316 00:20:09,537 --> 00:20:12,950 "you are the knights of the Renaissance." 317 00:20:12,950 --> 00:20:15,237 And you say, "See what this man says." 318 00:20:17,689 --> 00:20:19,747 I said, "Yes, I think so, you are noble." 319 00:20:20,790 --> 00:20:23,367 I said, "My God", and then one of us said: 320 00:20:23,367 --> 00:20:24,517 "I think it's relevant, 321 00:20:26,167 --> 00:20:28,850 "let's put this sculpture on the moon." 322 00:20:28,850 --> 00:20:29,970 This promise leads 323 00:20:29,970 --> 00:20:31,953 To a summit meeting in New York. 324 00:20:33,210 --> 00:20:35,340 Goodstadt, Lawler, Waddell 325 00:20:35,340 --> 00:20:39,093 and Van Hoeydonck prepare a program for the moon project. 326 00:20:40,330 --> 00:20:43,623 Five identical sculptures must travel to the moon. 327 00:20:45,380 --> 00:20:47,253 One of them will be left on the moon, 328 00:20:48,310 --> 00:20:50,413 one is for Paul and Dick, 329 00:20:51,360 --> 00:20:52,570 and the other three 330 00:20:52,570 --> 00:20:55,130 are for the astronauts themselves to maintain, 331 00:20:55,130 --> 00:20:57,963 but they also need to make a sixth sculpture. 332 00:20:59,070 --> 00:21:01,460 Upon your return, it will be processed 333 00:21:01,460 --> 00:21:05,393 in a series of 1,000 replicas, which will be sold. 334 00:21:06,750 --> 00:21:10,153 The six sculptures need to be completed as quickly as possible, 335 00:21:11,050 --> 00:21:12,960 but right after the meeting, 336 00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:15,873 a dramatic incident occurs in Russia. 337 00:21:17,350 --> 00:21:21,630 - A few months before Apollo 15 went to the moon, 338 00:21:21,630 --> 00:21:23,500 there has been an accident. 339 00:21:23,500 --> 00:21:26,070 The Dobrovolski cosmonauts, Volkov 340 00:21:26,070 --> 00:21:29,080 and Patsayev are found dead in their capsule 341 00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:31,843 in return for the longest space mission ever. 342 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:36,163 The cause of death is a mystery. 343 00:21:37,610 --> 00:21:40,290 NASA is concerned that Scott, Irwin 344 00:21:40,290 --> 00:21:43,110 and Worden will also be endangered 345 00:21:43,110 --> 00:21:45,533 in the long mission they are about to undertake. 346 00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:50,073 The Apollo 15 mission is suspended. 347 00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:54,100 Paul is back 348 00:21:54,100 --> 00:21:55,900 for his wife and children in Belgium. 349 00:21:58,604 --> 00:22:01,910 Inspired by the photos of the Cosmonauts' funeral, 350 00:22:01,910 --> 00:22:05,953 he starts a work of art to commemorate the crew of Soyuz 11. 351 00:22:07,370 --> 00:22:11,553 It will become one of your most impressive works of art. 352 00:22:13,138 --> 00:22:16,727 - I don't know, but I did something about the same time 353 00:22:18,950 --> 00:22:19,783 because 354 00:22:20,710 --> 00:22:21,873 I had to do it. " 355 00:22:25,807 --> 00:22:27,030 And then suddenly, - Silence! 356 00:22:27,030 --> 00:22:30,460 the Russians have disclosed the cause of the mysterious deaths 357 00:22:30,460 --> 00:22:31,373 of cosmonauts. 358 00:22:32,360 --> 00:22:34,153 - We are competitive, 359 00:22:35,570 --> 00:22:37,570 but we are also protective of each other. 360 00:22:37,570 --> 00:22:39,940 And I think what happened is that they informed us 361 00:22:39,940 --> 00:22:41,527 what was the problem 362 00:22:41,527 --> 00:22:44,363 and that led us to change some of our procedures. 363 00:22:45,428 --> 00:22:48,040 When the time came to open a hatch 364 00:22:48,950 --> 00:22:51,830 or maybe it's a possibility 365 00:22:51,830 --> 00:22:54,300 that we could be exposed to a vacuum, 366 00:22:54,300 --> 00:22:55,900 we wear pressure clothes 367 00:22:55,900 --> 00:22:58,230 and we hadn't done that before. 368 00:22:58,230 --> 00:23:00,930 If we had followed the old path and had a problem, 369 00:23:00,930 --> 00:23:02,610 the same thing would have happened. 370 00:23:02,610 --> 00:23:03,830 It happened to them, 371 00:23:03,830 --> 00:23:06,380 they were very accommodating, did not wear their clothes 372 00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:10,240 and they had a pressure leak and it killed them. 373 00:23:11,660 --> 00:23:13,940 The Apollo 15 mission is underway, 374 00:23:13,940 --> 00:23:17,285 so that the project of a work of art on the moon can continue. 375 00:23:18,118 --> 00:23:20,580 Dick Waddell takes the six sculptures of the moon 376 00:23:20,580 --> 00:23:22,933 for Danny Lawler in Cocoa Beach. 377 00:23:24,300 --> 00:23:26,470 Now Danny Lawler has to put them 378 00:23:26,470 --> 00:23:29,040 in the hands of Jim Irwin, 379 00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:31,280 but then another problem arises 380 00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:33,993 this could compromise the entire design. 381 00:23:34,990 --> 00:23:38,960 In the USA, a discussion started on the agreements 382 00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:41,633 that Danny Lawler closed with Alan Shepard. 383 00:23:42,530 --> 00:23:43,630 - on Apollo 14, 384 00:23:43,630 --> 00:23:46,260 Al Shepard had carried some things on that flight 385 00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:49,990 and then he hit the golf ball on the moon 386 00:23:49,990 --> 00:23:52,053 and my understanding is that the company 387 00:23:52,053 --> 00:23:55,140 that made those golf balls have thousands 388 00:23:55,140 --> 00:23:57,970 of boxes of these balls ready to ship, 389 00:23:57,970 --> 00:24:01,317 with inscriptions "First golf ball hit on the moon". 390 00:24:02,210 --> 00:24:04,250 Al Shepard denied any relationship 391 00:24:04,250 --> 00:24:09,250 with the golf ball company, but that was a bad thing 392 00:24:09,340 --> 00:24:11,970 and I think there were people at NASA 393 00:24:11,970 --> 00:24:15,260 who wanted to do something about it 394 00:24:15,260 --> 00:24:17,840 to prove that they were still in control. 395 00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:19,700 NASA will keep bitter lookout 396 00:24:19,700 --> 00:24:22,020 in possibly commercial activities 397 00:24:22,020 --> 00:24:24,013 with things that are taken to the moon. 398 00:24:26,430 --> 00:24:28,660 Paul is afraid that the inspection 399 00:24:28,660 --> 00:24:33,090 of the astronaut's PPKs will be more stringent. 400 00:24:33,090 --> 00:24:34,820 - When Flight 15 took off, 401 00:24:34,820 --> 00:24:38,340 we were very interested to know what could happen 402 00:24:38,340 --> 00:24:42,990 and we didn't see it happen because it was a secret 403 00:24:42,990 --> 00:24:44,800 and we knew it was a secret. 404 00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:48,863 - So there I was, sitting in the living room, 405 00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:53,070 watching television, watching live, 406 00:24:53,070 --> 00:24:54,943 the launch of Apollo 15, 407 00:24:55,860 --> 00:24:59,876 without knowing it at that moment, you're really on board, aren't you? 408 00:24:59,876 --> 00:25:03,728 - [Advertiser] 12, 11, 10, nine, eight, 409 00:25:03,728 --> 00:25:06,650 ignition sequence started, engines running. 410 00:25:06,650 --> 00:25:11,048 Five four three two one. (engines roar) 411 00:25:11,048 --> 00:25:13,416 All engines running. 412 00:25:13,416 --> 00:25:15,298 Takeoff, we have takeoff, 413 00:25:15,298 --> 00:25:18,215 at 9:34 am, Eastern Daylight Time. 414 00:25:19,490 --> 00:25:23,080 Precisely on time, 9:34 am, 415 00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:26,650 Apollo 15 rose from the block on the way to the moon. 416 00:25:26,650 --> 00:25:28,020 Together with your family, 417 00:25:28,020 --> 00:25:30,993 Paul follows the journey to the moon on TV. 418 00:25:32,420 --> 00:25:34,510 Paul receives news from Dick Waddell 419 00:25:34,510 --> 00:25:36,913 It is perfectly in order. 420 00:25:39,290 --> 00:25:42,880 Danny Lawler said that all six sculptures of the moon 421 00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:44,783 are on board the control module. 422 00:25:47,770 --> 00:25:50,720 At night, Paul and his little son, Patrick, 423 00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:53,900 look at the moon where the astronauts are about to arrive 424 00:25:53,900 --> 00:25:55,300 with your little sculpture. 425 00:25:59,100 --> 00:26:02,763 All they can do is wait and dream every now and then. 426 00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:10,413 And then, finally, the Apollo 15 team set foot on the moon. 427 00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:19,508 Ok, Houston, how I stood out here 428 00:26:19,508 --> 00:26:22,350 in the wonders of the unknown in Hadley, 429 00:26:22,350 --> 00:26:27,350 I kind of realize that there is a fundamental truth in our nature, 430 00:26:28,767 --> 00:26:30,184 man must explore. 431 00:26:31,190 --> 00:26:34,170 Paul is glued to the television. 432 00:26:34,170 --> 00:26:38,033 He watches all activity on the moon with Argus' eyes. 433 00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:43,170 Irwin and Scott will be on the moon for three days. 434 00:26:45,270 --> 00:26:46,750 They are the first astronauts 435 00:26:46,750 --> 00:26:48,880 driving the lunar roving vehicle 436 00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:50,620 through the mountains on the moon 437 00:26:50,620 --> 00:26:53,053 and perform all kinds of experiments. 438 00:26:54,860 --> 00:26:57,670 But on the first day, nothing should be seen 439 00:26:57,670 --> 00:26:59,773 to put a sculpture on the moon. 440 00:27:05,420 --> 00:27:08,983 When there are no broadcasts, Paul tries to remain calm. 441 00:27:10,110 --> 00:27:12,280 He tries not to think too much 442 00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:16,360 about what he expects to be happening 400,000 kilometers away 443 00:27:16,360 --> 00:27:18,093 from his home in Wijnegem. 444 00:27:23,148 --> 00:27:24,240 In the second day. 445 00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:27,363 Irwin and Scott drive more than 10 kilometers on the moon. 446 00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:32,400 In a crater, they find a rock that will later be known 447 00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:36,823 like Genesis Rock, a four billion-year-old stone. 448 00:27:37,730 --> 00:27:39,520 I think we found what we came for. 449 00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:40,990 Crystalline rock, huh? 450 00:27:40,990 --> 00:27:43,527 Yes, sir, you better believe it. 451 00:27:43,527 --> 00:27:45,210 After a seven-hour lunar tour, 452 00:27:45,210 --> 00:27:46,973 they return to the lunar module. 453 00:27:48,010 --> 00:27:51,453 There is still no sign of Paul's statue. 454 00:28:05,140 --> 00:28:07,560 During the third and final lunar tour, 455 00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:10,993 for Paul, the tension is almost unbearable. 456 00:28:12,070 --> 00:28:14,033 One of the astronauts falls. 457 00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:19,333 They do an experiment with a hammer and a quill. 458 00:28:20,588 --> 00:28:22,107 And I will drop the two here 459 00:28:22,107 --> 00:28:25,640 and I hope they hit the ground at the same time. 460 00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:26,500 What about? 461 00:28:26,500 --> 00:28:28,290 Live on television, 462 00:28:28,290 --> 00:28:30,560 they print stamps on the moon. 463 00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:32,440 I am very proud to have the opportunity here 464 00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:33,837 to play postman. 465 00:28:35,489 --> 00:28:37,750 What would be the best place to cancel a stamp 466 00:28:37,750 --> 00:28:41,760 than here at Hadley Rille. 467 00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:43,410 After three walks on the moon, 468 00:28:43,410 --> 00:28:45,660 Irwin and Scott return to the lunar module 469 00:28:45,660 --> 00:28:48,310 and their activities on the moon have come to an end. 470 00:28:50,270 --> 00:28:53,423 There is no sign of sculpture on the moon. 471 00:29:01,740 --> 00:29:04,060 The lunar module aims to bring together 472 00:29:04,060 --> 00:29:06,213 with Alfred Worden's command module. 473 00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:13,130 The television camera that sits on the moon 474 00:29:13,130 --> 00:29:17,633 takes a final panoramic photo of the Apollo 15 landing site. 475 00:29:20,500 --> 00:29:22,953 The recording ends in the lunar vehicle. 476 00:29:25,700 --> 00:29:30,180 In the background, a small mysterious object is shining 477 00:29:30,180 --> 00:29:32,743 on the edge of a small crater of the moon. 478 00:29:34,250 --> 00:29:36,980 It�s not clear what exactly it is, 479 00:29:36,980 --> 00:29:40,023 but it doesn't look like Paul's moon sculpture. 480 00:29:48,510 --> 00:29:51,300 Paul is in a state of suspense. 481 00:29:51,300 --> 00:29:52,713 What could have gone wrong? 482 00:29:54,110 --> 00:29:55,940 He misunderstood your meeting 483 00:29:55,940 --> 00:29:58,203 with the astronauts in Cocoa Beach? 484 00:29:59,690 --> 00:30:01,623 There is also no news from the USA. 485 00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:09,340 When a week later, Apollo 15 returns, 486 00:30:09,340 --> 00:30:11,340 there's one last breathtaking moment 487 00:30:11,340 --> 00:30:13,430 fuel discharge. 488 00:30:13,430 --> 00:30:14,960 - I loved nylon 489 00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:18,130 and suddenly I could see big holes in the parachute. 490 00:30:18,130 --> 00:30:20,370 But when we were going down to the water, 491 00:30:20,370 --> 00:30:21,840 I saw a second trough 492 00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:24,360 that was starting to have holes. 493 00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:26,570 If the holes in the second parachute 494 00:30:26,570 --> 00:30:27,970 would have gotten bigger, 495 00:30:27,970 --> 00:30:30,020 they would not have survived the landing. 496 00:30:32,567 --> 00:30:35,900 The top chute of the parachute. 497 00:30:36,777 --> 00:30:39,930 Apollo 15, this is Recovery, exchange. 498 00:30:39,930 --> 00:30:42,503 Now they arrived on Earth unscathed. 499 00:30:43,790 --> 00:30:45,480 At the first press conference, 500 00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:48,470 astronauts tell about the mysterious object 501 00:30:48,470 --> 00:30:51,110 that they left behind on the moon. 502 00:30:51,110 --> 00:30:53,740 - There were several disasters in the space program. 503 00:30:53,740 --> 00:30:56,230 We lost several astronauts, 504 00:30:56,230 --> 00:31:00,780 the Russians had lost some people, some cosmonauts in space 505 00:31:00,780 --> 00:31:02,120 and when we fly, 506 00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:04,600 we realized that there were 14 of them 507 00:31:05,710 --> 00:31:07,750 who died in the search for space 508 00:31:07,750 --> 00:31:09,580 and we thought it would be appropriate for us 509 00:31:09,580 --> 00:31:11,840 to leave some kind of memorial. 510 00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:14,360 It's not Genesis Rock, but this monument 511 00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:17,780 that gets all the attention of the American press 512 00:31:17,780 --> 00:31:21,593 and the Paul statue is part of that monument. 513 00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:26,020 - I think the idea of ??using the piece 514 00:31:26,020 --> 00:31:27,860 as a memorial to the Russians 515 00:31:27,860 --> 00:31:31,020 and Americans is wonderful. 516 00:31:31,020 --> 00:31:33,370 It may have been, as far as I can remember, 517 00:31:33,370 --> 00:31:38,250 the only thing that was set up with the two countries 518 00:31:38,250 --> 00:31:40,330 because it was such a difficult time 519 00:31:40,330 --> 00:31:42,490 between Russia and the USA 520 00:31:42,490 --> 00:31:44,850 Danny Lawler calls Paul immediately 521 00:31:44,850 --> 00:31:45,983 to tell the news. 522 00:31:46,970 --> 00:31:50,450 He explains to Paul that there are now two of his sculptures 523 00:31:50,450 --> 00:31:54,220 on the moon, Paul's space traveler in plexiglass 524 00:31:54,220 --> 00:31:57,665 and a prototype that they placed near the memorial. 525 00:31:59,060 --> 00:32:02,020 Paul writes letters of thanks to the three astronauts 526 00:32:02,020 --> 00:32:03,840 and with great expectation, 527 00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:06,553 he is looking forward to their arrival in Belgium. 528 00:32:07,567 --> 00:32:11,587 - "Are you coming to the space conference in Brussels? 529 00:32:11,587 --> 00:32:13,230 "We hope to see you there!" 530 00:32:13,230 --> 00:32:16,473 - We came to Brussels after the flight. 531 00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:21,363 We met the king, we got a medal, 532 00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:23,740 it was a very, very pleasant meeting. 533 00:32:23,740 --> 00:32:26,900 We had a series of NASA management with us, 534 00:32:26,900 --> 00:32:29,676 we had our flight surgeon with us. 535 00:32:38,900 --> 00:32:40,740 During lunch, Paul is informed 536 00:32:40,740 --> 00:32:44,570 that his acrylic statue was not placed on the moon. 537 00:32:44,570 --> 00:32:46,603 It wasn't even taken on the flight. 538 00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:53,220 - I was at home, at our home, on the Upper East Side, 539 00:32:53,220 --> 00:32:55,757 and I got a call from my husband who said: 540 00:32:55,757 --> 00:32:59,507 "Quick, get in my drawer, my first drawer in my dressing room 541 00:32:59,507 --> 00:33:02,587 "and take the sculpture that is on the right side 542 00:33:02,587 --> 00:33:06,307 "from the top drawer and quickly take it to the gallery." 543 00:33:06,307 --> 00:33:07,690 It's all right. 544 00:33:07,690 --> 00:33:10,590 So I took the sculpture, went down the stairs, 545 00:33:10,590 --> 00:33:12,680 because we live close, 546 00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:14,740 and took a taxi to the gallery. 547 00:33:14,740 --> 00:33:18,240 I was at 76th and the gallery at 57th. 548 00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:21,050 and I walked and said, "Here, what's going on?" 549 00:33:21,050 --> 00:33:25,057 He said, "Well, unfortunately, the sculpture that we had 550 00:33:25,057 --> 00:33:27,197 "to take to the moon is very heavy, 551 00:33:27,197 --> 00:33:29,067 "wrapped in plastic, it's very heavy, 552 00:33:29,067 --> 00:33:33,160 "so they want one that is just a model in itself." 553 00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:34,300 - [Narrator] Now it's out 554 00:33:34,300 --> 00:33:37,223 that NASA officially approved the project. 555 00:33:38,290 --> 00:33:41,513 Commander Dave Scott put a prototype on the moon, 556 00:33:42,430 --> 00:33:45,783 not as a work of art, but as part of the memorial. 557 00:33:47,140 --> 00:33:49,590 - I was sad, very sad 558 00:33:50,890 --> 00:33:53,880 because I know I did a lot 559 00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:55,040 cruel works 560 00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:57,883 and I suffer from it when I do it. 561 00:33:58,790 --> 00:34:00,930 I couldn't feel happy about it. 562 00:34:00,930 --> 00:34:05,433 I wanted to give man a future, happiness for the future. 563 00:34:13,710 --> 00:34:16,130 Paul lights up when the astronauts tell him 564 00:34:16,130 --> 00:34:18,430 that the film about his mission premiered 565 00:34:18,430 --> 00:34:20,353 in the palace of the Belgian king. 566 00:34:20,373 --> 00:34:21,316 Apollo 567 00:34:21,340 --> 00:34:24,660 The film ends with a statement by Commander Dave Scott 568 00:34:24,660 --> 00:34:26,660 on the moon sculpture. 569 00:34:26,660 --> 00:34:29,440 About 20 feet north of Rover 1, 570 00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:30,803 in a small subtle crater, 571 00:34:31,816 --> 00:34:34,510 there is a simple plate with 14 names. 572 00:34:34,510 --> 00:34:36,830 And those are the names, in alphabetical order, 573 00:34:36,830 --> 00:34:39,070 of all astronauts and cosmonauts 574 00:34:39,070 --> 00:34:42,463 who died in search of space exploration. 575 00:34:43,350 --> 00:34:47,143 Next to it, a small figure representing the Fallen Astronaut. 576 00:34:49,330 --> 00:34:52,727 - And they said, "Well, we showed the moon movie 577 00:34:52,727 --> 00:34:55,687 "to the king and he was very interested" 578 00:34:57,140 --> 00:35:00,137 he saw the sculpture lying on the moon. 579 00:35:00,137 --> 00:35:04,037 "Oh," I said, "what did he say when you told him that?" 580 00:35:04,037 --> 00:35:07,193 "No," they said, "we were not allowed to say that." 581 00:35:07,193 --> 00:35:10,850 - That would have been so appropriate at that time 582 00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:16,067 to say, "One of your countrymen is responsible 583 00:35:16,067 --> 00:35:17,860 "for this memorial." 584 00:35:17,860 --> 00:35:19,110 Astronauts tell Paul 585 00:35:19,110 --> 00:35:20,990 must remain secret 586 00:35:20,990 --> 00:35:23,300 that he is the creator of the sculpture 587 00:35:23,300 --> 00:35:25,810 until the Apollo program ends. 588 00:35:25,810 --> 00:35:29,110 - And I was surprised, actually, 589 00:35:29,110 --> 00:35:32,440 see that the artist was never recognized 590 00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:33,460 until much later. 591 00:35:33,460 --> 00:35:35,000 I thought this was really weird. 592 00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:37,760 - I'll never know why. 593 00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:40,480 - I asked. 594 00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:43,140 and Al said, "Paul, I didn't know." 595 00:35:43,140 --> 00:35:45,650 - I guess I never really thought 596 00:35:45,650 --> 00:35:48,850 that the official position on this was very good 597 00:35:48,850 --> 00:35:51,120 because I thought whoever did this 598 00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:53,263 must get recognition for doing so. 599 00:35:54,140 --> 00:35:55,680 This is even stranger 600 00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:57,310 because the name of the designer 601 00:35:57,310 --> 00:36:00,233 of the Apollo 15 emblem has been made public. 602 00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:05,410 - Yes, that's a good argument, because this is another artist 603 00:36:07,650 --> 00:36:11,430 who helped us do something for our flight 604 00:36:11,430 --> 00:36:13,880 and that would be Emilio Pucci. 605 00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:16,020 But we tell everyone from the first day 606 00:36:16,020 --> 00:36:19,313 that Emilio Pucci was the guy who did this for us. 607 00:36:23,050 --> 00:36:27,120 - I saw Paul after the piece was placed on the moon 608 00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:30,060 because we were still discussing the possibility 609 00:36:30,060 --> 00:36:31,970 of the various editions 610 00:36:31,970 --> 00:36:34,963 and he was still in New York at the time. 611 00:36:37,650 --> 00:36:40,113 Paul wonders how to proceed. 612 00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:44,030 The message for the future that Paul intended to spread 613 00:36:44,030 --> 00:36:47,550 with his work of art on the moon evaporated 614 00:36:47,550 --> 00:36:50,893 and is now represented as a death memorial. 615 00:36:52,230 --> 00:36:54,660 And as long as they can't reveal 616 00:36:54,660 --> 00:36:56,970 that Paul created the sculpture, 617 00:36:56,970 --> 00:36:59,643 they cannot place the replicas on the market. 618 00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:04,920 But then, Paul receives a letter from Dave Scott, 619 00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:07,140 saying that the Smithsonian Institution 620 00:37:07,140 --> 00:37:08,933 wants a replica of the monument. 621 00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:12,920 The request comes from Michael Collins 622 00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:16,363 who is now the director of the Air and Space Museum. 623 00:37:19,110 --> 00:37:22,420 Paul immediately makes the commitment. 624 00:37:22,420 --> 00:37:24,580 This is your chance to make it public 625 00:37:24,580 --> 00:37:27,013 that he is the creator of the sculpture. 626 00:37:31,460 --> 00:37:35,450 Paul informs Scott that he intends to deliver the replica 627 00:37:35,450 --> 00:37:37,523 to the Smithsonian personally. 628 00:37:40,380 --> 00:37:42,100 Dave Scott now realizes 629 00:37:42,100 --> 00:37:44,870 that Paul will come out of anonymity 630 00:37:44,870 --> 00:37:48,084 and he adamantly tries to avoid it. 631 00:37:56,670 --> 00:38:00,010 Meanwhile, Bruce Gitlin, is working on a series 632 00:38:00,010 --> 00:38:04,480 of 950 sculptures for sale. 633 00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:05,920 - And we were making the tools 634 00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:08,790 and the molds to move forward with that 635 00:38:08,790 --> 00:38:13,050 when NASA somehow heard this and called me 636 00:38:13,050 --> 00:38:15,740 and demanded that I stop immediately 637 00:38:15,740 --> 00:38:19,037 and cease and give up any other work, they called, 638 00:38:19,037 --> 00:38:20,577 "On the moon the man's project." 639 00:38:22,230 --> 00:38:26,860 So I stopped and gave up as fast as I could. 640 00:38:26,860 --> 00:38:30,623 It was a kind of really threatening and scary call. 641 00:38:33,190 --> 00:38:34,450 Shortly after that, 642 00:38:34,450 --> 00:38:37,690 we were called by the Smithsonian Institute 643 00:38:37,690 --> 00:38:40,380 who asked us if they could have a replica 644 00:38:40,380 --> 00:38:42,310 of "Fallen Astronaut" 645 00:38:42,310 --> 00:38:45,430 At that point, I said to them, "Absolutely not." 646 00:38:45,430 --> 00:38:46,997 They said, 647 00:38:46,997 --> 00:38:50,257 "Why not, we are the museum of the people of America? 648 00:38:50,257 --> 00:38:52,780 "We should have one of those." 649 00:38:52,780 --> 00:38:56,947 And I replied that: "If you got permission from NASA 650 00:38:56,947 --> 00:39:01,067 "to allow me to do it, then I will produce one for you." 651 00:39:01,067 --> 00:39:01,900 But now, 652 00:39:01,900 --> 00:39:05,160 Dick Waddell decides to bring the press. 653 00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:07,413 He contacts Walter Cronkite. 654 00:39:08,350 --> 00:39:11,570 Waddell offers him the opportunity to introduce Paul 655 00:39:11,570 --> 00:39:15,443 like the artist who created the first work of art on the moon. 656 00:39:17,250 --> 00:39:20,260 - Paul Van Hoeydonck then went to Florida 657 00:39:20,260 --> 00:39:22,710 to be interviewed by Walter Cronkite 658 00:39:22,710 --> 00:39:25,380 and it was when he went, it was very exciting. 659 00:39:25,380 --> 00:39:29,223 You know, Walter Cronkite, the main honoree. 660 00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:34,280 Once again, Dave Scott is strongly opposed. 661 00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:38,510 Scott doesn't want any advertising focused on sculpture, 662 00:39:38,510 --> 00:39:41,353 as for him, it is part of the memorial. 663 00:39:42,580 --> 00:39:44,200 Scott did everything he could. 664 00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:47,380 He wrote letters, called, which I wouldn't do, 665 00:39:47,380 --> 00:39:48,500 that interview. 666 00:39:48,500 --> 00:39:51,770 I said, "My God, I'm tired and sick of it." 667 00:39:51,770 --> 00:39:54,410 People started to think that I am a liar. 668 00:39:54,410 --> 00:39:55,680 third time 669 00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:58,340 Paul participates in the launch of an Apollo mission. 670 00:39:58,340 --> 00:40:01,250 After Apollo 6 and 12, 671 00:40:01,250 --> 00:40:04,960 he witnesses the launch of Apollo 16. 672 00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:07,830 Immediately afterwards, he is interviewed. 673 00:40:07,830 --> 00:40:11,220 Walter Cronkite presents Paul Van Hoeydonck 674 00:40:11,220 --> 00:40:15,683 as the artist of the first work of art on the moon. 675 00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:29,470 The day after the interview, 676 00:40:29,470 --> 00:40:32,473 Paul delivers his sculpture to Michael Collins. 677 00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:36,700 New York photographer Bob Otter 678 00:40:36,700 --> 00:40:39,260 takes promotional photos of Paul 679 00:40:39,260 --> 00:40:41,750 and his first art on the moon. 680 00:40:41,750 --> 00:40:44,580 - And this is clearly taken from that deck 681 00:40:44,580 --> 00:40:46,710 because you could literally feel 682 00:40:46,710 --> 00:40:48,230 you can play at the Empire State Building, 683 00:40:48,230 --> 00:40:49,960 that you can see in this photo. 684 00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:53,953 And it�s Paul holding the figurine and it�s a classic photo. 685 00:40:56,110 --> 00:40:58,260 Canadian filmmaker Dennis Miller, 686 00:40:58,260 --> 00:41:01,503 was hired to make a film about Paul and his space art. 687 00:41:03,410 --> 00:41:06,750 And the Waddell Gallery opens a great exhibition 688 00:41:06,750 --> 00:41:09,883 dedicate to Paul Van Hoeydonck's space art career. 689 00:41:11,240 --> 00:41:14,113 The highlight is his sculpture on the moon. 690 00:41:15,130 --> 00:41:18,570 But the New York art world is envious. 691 00:41:18,570 --> 00:41:21,130 - I could imagine that easily, yes, of course. 692 00:41:21,130 --> 00:41:24,310 A European brings something on the moon through the Americans, 693 00:41:24,310 --> 00:41:25,610 Yes, they would be jealous. 694 00:41:25,610 --> 00:41:29,253 I mean, they were jealous when the artists came to stay here. 695 00:41:29,253 --> 00:41:33,713 - I mean, and then, it's a big world out there. 696 00:41:33,713 --> 00:41:34,960 It's perfect that it's someone 697 00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:37,270 from another country, you know? 698 00:41:37,270 --> 00:41:40,463 I mean, Belgian, what do you know, 699 00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:44,170 the moon does not belong to America. 700 00:41:44,170 --> 00:41:47,030 - But I'm sure there was jealousy, of course. 701 00:41:47,030 --> 00:41:49,017 It's like, "Why not me?" 702 00:41:50,500 --> 00:41:53,190 As the Waddell Gallery prepares 703 00:41:53,190 --> 00:41:54,820 for selling the replicas, 704 00:41:54,820 --> 00:41:58,330 a scandal breaks out over the smuggling of postal covers 705 00:41:58,330 --> 00:42:00,940 by the Apollo 15 crew. 706 00:42:00,940 --> 00:42:03,570 - And he presented this idea to us 707 00:42:03,570 --> 00:42:06,260 that we carry 100 postal covers 708 00:42:07,700 --> 00:42:09,820 for a German stamp dealer in Stuttgart 709 00:42:09,820 --> 00:42:11,623 and Dave was in favor of that. 710 00:42:12,630 --> 00:42:14,280 In fact, he was the one who introduced us 711 00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:16,590 and took us to dinner that night, 712 00:42:16,590 --> 00:42:19,080 but I thought NASA approved us 713 00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:20,360 taking them on the flight. 714 00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:21,750 Well, what we found, of course, 715 00:42:21,750 --> 00:42:23,750 was that they were never in the manifest 716 00:42:25,350 --> 00:42:27,990 and Dave Scott not only had 717 00:42:29,560 --> 00:42:31,090 the 100 covers made, 718 00:42:31,090 --> 00:42:33,930 but he had 300 more manufactured and he carried them in his pocket 719 00:42:33,930 --> 00:42:35,680 and never put them in the manifest. 720 00:42:37,255 --> 00:42:39,875 So that was the kind of genesis of the whole problem 721 00:42:39,900 --> 00:42:41,220 with the covers. 722 00:42:41,220 --> 00:42:43,950 A few days after the scandal was released, 723 00:42:43,950 --> 00:42:46,810 the ads appear offering the replicas 724 00:42:46,810 --> 00:42:50,067 of sculpture as "First art on the moon". 725 00:42:51,500 --> 00:42:54,460 - And suddenly they were attacking Dick Waddell, 726 00:42:54,460 --> 00:42:56,887 my dealer and me because they said, 727 00:42:56,887 --> 00:43:00,010 "They wanted to make money from that sculpture on the moon." 728 00:43:00,010 --> 00:43:02,210 Although Paul never intended his sculpture 729 00:43:02,210 --> 00:43:04,000 be part of the memorial, 730 00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:07,123 now he is accused of serious assault. 731 00:43:09,127 --> 00:43:14,127 - Paul was being harassed by the US government, which, 732 00:43:15,870 --> 00:43:18,300 basically turned against him 733 00:43:18,300 --> 00:43:21,950 for doing something that was not approved by NASA 734 00:43:21,950 --> 00:43:24,500 and he then left the country. 735 00:43:24,500 --> 00:43:25,333 - My lawyer said: 736 00:43:25,333 --> 00:43:27,123 "Paul, make your lunch, go back to Belgium." 737 00:43:27,123 --> 00:43:29,281 I said, "Why didn't I do that?" 738 00:43:29,281 --> 00:43:31,537 He said, "You know, pay attention, 739 00:43:31,537 --> 00:43:33,883 "when you enter the state in a prison, 740 00:43:35,597 --> 00:43:36,947 "you have to get out of this. 741 00:43:37,819 --> 00:43:42,247 "So you walk away and I say when you can come back." 742 00:43:44,523 --> 00:43:46,350 Harry Torczyner, the lawyer 743 00:43:46,350 --> 00:43:49,980 who ten years earlier had advised Paul to come to the USA, 744 00:43:49,980 --> 00:43:53,548 now send him out of the country, back to Belgium. 745 00:43:56,610 --> 00:43:58,880 Due to the case of postal cover, 746 00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:00,380 astronauts are summoned 747 00:44:00,380 --> 00:44:03,433 appear before a Special Senate Committee. 748 00:44:04,330 --> 00:44:06,310 The committee also wants to know more 749 00:44:06,310 --> 00:44:07,960 about the "Fallen Astronaut" 750 00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:11,703 and unexpectedly, Paul receives visitors in Belgium. 751 00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:15,760 - They were part of the detectives 752 00:44:17,820 --> 00:44:18,653 in service 753 00:44:19,660 --> 00:44:20,693 from NASA, 754 00:44:21,860 --> 00:44:26,013 although I think they were in the service of the FBI, 755 00:44:27,180 --> 00:44:29,573 but they came especially to interview me. 756 00:44:30,860 --> 00:44:33,273 We were a scandal in America, why? 757 00:44:34,740 --> 00:44:36,650 - It was a very negative moment, 758 00:44:36,650 --> 00:44:39,860 so I didn't want to have a negative ending 759 00:44:39,860 --> 00:44:42,833 to such a glorious achievement. 760 00:44:43,671 --> 00:44:45,570 - One of the local newspapers 761 00:44:45,570 --> 00:44:48,810 on Long Island, it was on the front page, 762 00:44:48,810 --> 00:44:50,790 but I was showing the photo 763 00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:54,420 and I believe I was also talking 764 00:44:54,420 --> 00:44:57,493 about astronauts being expelled from the space program. 765 00:45:03,690 --> 00:45:07,670 - And we were all punished and sent away and surprisingly, 766 00:45:07,670 --> 00:45:11,790 the only guy from the three of us who didn't get fired 767 00:45:11,790 --> 00:45:14,250 and said to leave Houston was Dave Scott 768 00:45:15,500 --> 00:45:17,050 and I never understood that. 769 00:45:17,910 --> 00:45:21,410 He was the guy who created all these things, 770 00:45:21,410 --> 00:45:26,183 did it all on his own, just let Jim and me know later, 771 00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:29,220 and yet he was the one who stayed in Houston. 772 00:45:29,220 --> 00:45:30,693 So I never understood that. 773 00:45:37,430 --> 00:45:39,250 The Senate investigation show 774 00:45:39,250 --> 00:45:42,170 that NASA had discovered several irregularities 775 00:45:42,170 --> 00:45:44,163 during the Apollo 15 mission. 776 00:45:45,260 --> 00:45:47,930 Maybe that's why Dave Scott wanted the creator 777 00:45:47,930 --> 00:45:51,240 of the "Fallen Astronaut" to remain unknown. 778 00:45:51,240 --> 00:45:54,600 Dave had a lot of problems hanging over his head. 779 00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:55,780 One was the postal cover, 780 00:45:55,780 --> 00:45:59,613 that he didn't even tell Jim and me what was going on there, 781 00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:03,520 two Bulova watches that he carried 782 00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:06,370 that were never listed in the manifest, 783 00:46:06,370 --> 00:46:07,490 the "Fallen Astronaut" 784 00:46:07,490 --> 00:46:10,430 and I could see Dave looking at this 785 00:46:10,430 --> 00:46:11,764 and saying, "Oh, you know, 786 00:46:11,764 --> 00:46:14,607 "if it becomes a big thing, 787 00:46:14,607 --> 00:46:16,767 "with" Fallen Astronaut, 788 00:46:16,767 --> 00:46:19,147 "someone will find out about Bulova watches, 789 00:46:19,147 --> 00:46:20,007 "they will discover the covers, 790 00:46:20,007 --> 00:46:22,417 "will discover all this, 791 00:46:22,417 --> 00:46:24,447 "you know, i'm going to have a big problem." 792 00:46:25,300 --> 00:46:26,670 Paul Van Hoeydonck decides 793 00:46:26,670 --> 00:46:29,553 to stop selling his first art on the moon. 794 00:46:31,790 --> 00:46:34,340 To complete his adventure, he travels to Italy 795 00:46:34,340 --> 00:46:36,580 and plays a replica of his sculpture 796 00:46:36,580 --> 00:46:38,613 in the Vesuvius crater. 797 00:46:41,021 --> 00:46:44,241 And that finally ends the moon project. 798 00:47:15,234 --> 00:47:16,810 Paul is 90 years old now, 799 00:47:16,810 --> 00:47:20,163 but he still works on his space art every day. 800 00:47:23,110 --> 00:47:26,790 As always, trash and found objects form the basis 801 00:47:26,790 --> 00:47:28,413 for their work on the future. 802 00:47:30,940 --> 00:47:33,683 His second wife, Marleen, fully supports him. 803 00:47:34,610 --> 00:47:38,140 She managed to help Paul to look back in a positive way 804 00:47:38,140 --> 00:47:42,685 in this unlikely adventure of his sculpture on the moon. 805 00:48:16,110 --> 00:48:19,410 When the Smithsonian Institution, in 2013, 806 00:48:19,410 --> 00:48:23,370 invited Paul to a special event about his lunar sculpture, 807 00:48:23,370 --> 00:48:25,093 he was pleasantly surprised. 808 00:48:25,980 --> 00:48:30,330 - And now, I see that he is very happy, he is a happy man. 809 00:48:30,330 --> 00:48:34,240 And the best revenge is to be happy. 810 00:48:34,240 --> 00:48:37,770 - Finally, they accepted him as a creator, 811 00:48:37,770 --> 00:48:40,570 as the artist who made the "Fallen Astronaut" 812 00:48:40,570 --> 00:48:43,163 and that they were proud of it. 813 00:48:43,163 --> 00:48:45,260 - I think it was, in a way, 814 00:48:45,260 --> 00:48:48,450 as the crowning of a part of his career. 815 00:48:48,450 --> 00:48:50,700 Because as he and I discussed 816 00:48:50,700 --> 00:48:53,953 when I spent some time with him, alone, he and me, 817 00:48:55,390 --> 00:48:57,170 that he believes, and I agree, 818 00:48:57,170 --> 00:49:00,190 now he is at the forefront of Belgian artists 819 00:49:00,190 --> 00:49:01,510 and it took a long time 820 00:49:01,510 --> 00:49:03,820 and a lot of hard work to get there. 821 00:49:03,820 --> 00:49:04,653 AND 822 00:49:06,130 --> 00:49:08,020 I think he was proud and happy 823 00:49:08,020 --> 00:49:09,820 and we are proud and happy for him. 824 00:49:11,250 --> 00:49:13,080 - Being invited by the Smithsonian, 825 00:49:13,080 --> 00:49:15,213 which is a great honor in America, 826 00:49:17,150 --> 00:49:17,983 almost 827 00:49:18,930 --> 00:49:19,913 an acceptance. 828 00:49:21,410 --> 00:49:23,300 This was the beginning of a period 829 00:49:23,300 --> 00:49:26,030 where Paul should return fully to the art world 830 00:49:26,030 --> 00:49:30,302 who fired him so brutally 50 years earlier. 831 00:49:34,961 --> 00:49:38,790 - Mr. Paul, Mr. Paul, okay, you're alive. 832 00:49:38,790 --> 00:49:43,633 For you, very well. - Look at you, man. (laughs) 833 00:49:47,080 --> 00:49:49,060 But even more important for Paul 834 00:49:49,060 --> 00:49:51,930 was his renewed contact with Al Worden, 835 00:49:51,930 --> 00:49:54,763 the pilot of the Apollo 15 command module. 836 00:49:55,810 --> 00:49:59,570 - Here in Antwerp, we have a 90 year old 837 00:50:01,102 --> 00:50:04,910 who is an artist, who is world famous, 838 00:50:04,910 --> 00:50:06,630 who had exhibitions at the Guggenheim, 839 00:50:06,630 --> 00:50:11,630 a few months ago, and also in Berlin and Amsterdam, 840 00:50:13,470 --> 00:50:18,190 who has been speaking in Washington DC at the Smithsonian 841 00:50:18,190 --> 00:50:20,440 and above all, ladies and gentlemen, 842 00:50:20,440 --> 00:50:25,440 who is the only person in human history 843 00:50:25,570 --> 00:50:30,570 who has already made a work of art that is on the moon. 844 00:50:46,694 --> 00:50:48,244 Sign here 845 00:50:48,244 --> 00:50:49,500 The artist and the astronaut 846 00:50:49,500 --> 00:50:51,770 immediately restored their friendship 847 00:50:51,770 --> 00:50:55,260 and together they can look back on an immense achievement 848 00:50:55,260 --> 00:50:57,553 in the worlds of art and space travel. 849 00:51:00,560 --> 00:51:04,767 - A great monkey in New York and I did all those things. 850 00:51:05,714 --> 00:51:10,714 Oh, that's when you did that. 851 00:51:11,356 --> 00:51:13,414 Done, the great New York monkey. 852 00:51:13,414 --> 00:51:15,480 - The big monkey in New York, isn't it? 853 00:51:15,480 --> 00:51:16,950 But... Think about it. 854 00:51:16,950 --> 00:51:19,065 - Does not look like you. 855 00:51:19,065 --> 00:51:21,636 - No, I don't think so, I look more like a gangster. 856 00:51:23,260 --> 00:51:24,947 So, give him my specifications. 857 00:51:29,710 --> 00:51:31,301 - Pull ---- It's really heavy. 858 00:51:31,301 --> 00:51:32,134 There is an. 859 00:51:32,134 --> 00:51:33,810 I told him that once, I did. 860 00:51:33,810 --> 00:51:37,777 Yes, I know, she gave me hell, my wife, she did. 861 00:51:37,777 --> 00:51:39,701 "Now you want to build it too. 862 00:51:40,591 --> 00:51:42,650 "He gave it to us and how dare you." 863 00:51:42,650 --> 00:51:44,919 I said, "Yes, but you told me." 864 00:52:14,050 --> 00:52:16,230 - To be, at the time, 865 00:52:16,230 --> 00:52:19,310 The only 866 00:52:19,310 --> 00:52:23,570 in outer space, as far as we know, it was an absolute emotion. 867 00:52:23,570 --> 00:52:24,980 It's historic 868 00:52:24,980 --> 00:52:25,813 and 869 00:52:27,050 --> 00:52:28,710 is part of playing a role 870 00:52:28,710 --> 00:52:32,133 in humans leaving the planet. 871 00:52:35,452 --> 00:52:38,470 I don't know, I... 872 00:52:38,470 --> 00:52:41,620 you know, it's just part of my life. 873 00:52:41,620 --> 00:52:44,800 It has been part of my life for so many years. 874 00:52:44,800 --> 00:52:46,440 I think it's great that there's something 875 00:52:46,440 --> 00:52:48,920 this is so iconic on the moon. 876 00:52:48,920 --> 00:52:53,920 This is not so general to represent humanity. 877 00:52:53,930 --> 00:52:58,530 I mean, that's what I like is that it's generic. 878 00:52:58,530 --> 00:53:00,050 Half a century ago, 879 00:53:00,050 --> 00:53:01,780 Paul Van Hoeydonck had a dream 880 00:53:05,460 --> 00:53:08,220 and that dream came true. 881 00:53:08,220 --> 00:53:09,453 - The universe is round. 882 00:53:10,990 --> 00:53:13,233 It doesn't start, it doesn't end, 883 00:53:14,240 --> 00:53:16,687 there is no beginning, there is no end. 884 00:53:20,088 --> 00:53:21,088 Apollo 15 commander David Scott declined to be interviewed for this documentary. 68464

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