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Usion of "the real housewives of new york city" reunion.
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- Follow your gut.
- True that.
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"eee! Look what I have!"
it was, like, crazy.
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- I love it.
- Stfu!
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[ laughs ]
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better to say I'm sorry
than be a denier.
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- Okay.
- Ooh.
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I was, like, on the verge
of a nervous breakdown.
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Once tinsley left the show,
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dorinda made me
her punching bag.
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Where are these people gonna be
when it's you and me,
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2-for-1 martinis
at the burger heaven?
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Don't you look at yourself
and go,
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"oh, my god. I can't believe
I said that to lu"?
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I don't think dorinda
hits below the belt.
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What?! I'm sorry.
You need to think about that.
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- You scammed us.
- "your friendship means
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everything to me."
- she's explaining herself.
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- Can I finish?
- She doesn't wanna hear
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your response. Okay.
- Read the texts.
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I love you!
Why are you doing this?!
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♪♪♪
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welcome back to
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"the real housewives
of new york city" reunion.
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I'm andy cohen.
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Well, as any avid watcher
of the new york housewives
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can tell you, it's more
than just entertainment.
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It's an anthropological
experience.
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Watch this.
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Sorry, sorry, sorry.
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Well, sorry. Sorry.
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Sorry goes a long way.
I'm sorry. It does.
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Sorry! I'm sorry.
It's in the afternoon.
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It's insulting. Sorry!
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- No, I'm not--
- insulting.
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- Sorry!
- Oh, I wasn't invited.
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I'm sorry.
"sorry" goes a long way.
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I'm gonna throw her out
and bring luann in.
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She wants to catch a dick.
I mean...
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If I don't catch a dick,
I don't care.
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And then you die, and you catch
some dick on the way.
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- I mean, the dick's caught.
- [ laughs ]
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never touch a small dick.
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- Thank you, sonja.
- [ laughs ]
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I've never received a dick pic
except the wrong number.
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My dick would go like that. Ehh.
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[ laughs ]
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the only reason
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you would leave a girls event
is to catch a dick.
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- [ laughs ]
- all right, let's go!
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Come on, girls.
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Come on, ramona.
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- Ramona, come on.
- Oh, god.
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Check with ramona.
She needs to be wrangled.
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Get your ass over here, girl.
[ laughter ]
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you wanna skedaddle?
Let's go skedaddle.
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Okay, let's go.
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- Yay!
- Okay, let's go.
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All right,
let's get started, right?
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Let's sit. Let's all sit down.
Okay, sit down, son.
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Don't touch my...
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It's a ----ing sh--ty yacht!
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Ladies,
the soup is getting cold.
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Come on. Hurry up.
The ceviche is waiting for us.
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- It's gonna get warm.
- Would you like a shrimp?
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Would anybody like a shrimp?
[ laughs ]
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aw.
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Here's the thing.
Here's the thing.
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Here's the thing.
Here's the thing.
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Here's the thing. Here's the
thing about sonja's rambling.
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- Here's the thing.
- You know what it is?
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Here's the thing.
Here's the thing.
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Here's the thing.
Here's the thing.
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Here's the thing about ramona.
Oh, god.
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- Are you serious?
- Can you imagine?
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Can you imagine?
Can you imagine?
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Can you imagine?
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[ laughter ]
can you imagine?
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- Can you imagine?
- Wait. I wanna smell it.
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I'm only smelling it.
What? I'm just interested.
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[ sniffs ] oh, god.
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- [ sniffs ]
- rosé and coca-cola?
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[ sniffs ]
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- did you know you did?
- [ sniffs ]
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- who would have known?
- Leah is a smeller?
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- Jesus. I didn't know that.
- Who knew you were a sniffer?
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- Did you know that?
- I didn't know that.
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- [ laughs ]
- why do you--did you know that?
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[ sniffs ]
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[ laughs ]
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did you just smell your armpit?
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- Yes!
- Here's the thing.
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I love it.
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- That's funny.
- That's awesome.
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You were stunned
by your smelling.
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Stunned. I thought--
I had no idea
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that's what it was gonna be.
[ laughter ]
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- that was really funny.
- So weird.
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- I'm shocked!
- Has no one ever said...
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Well, you know,
I'm a very, like,
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like, I have--the way I learn
is by, like, touching things
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and feeling them...
- Sniffing 'em.
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So smelling them, too, maybe?
I don't know. Yeah.
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Donnie from ann arbor said,
"dorinda, you have almost
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"a european way of speaking.
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"are 'can you imagine?'
and 'here's the thing'
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"things you picked up
living in England,
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or is that more
your mom's influence?"
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I have no idea. I didn't really
realize I say it so much.
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Here's the thing.
I didn't really know.
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[ laughter ]
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celia from nashville said,
"lu, it seems like you're
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always trying to keep the ladies
on track..."
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- yep.
- "...And maintain decorum."
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- yes.
- "do you see yourself
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as the peacekeeper mama
of the group?"
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- absolutely.
- Yeah, you know,
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I'm--I'm left with the task
of doing some wrangling...
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- Yep.
- ...When I'm not being
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the snatch guard.
- Snatch guard.
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- Cathy from
toluca lake, california, said,
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"ladies, do two words
coming out of a person's mouth
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mean any less than when ramona
says "I'm sorry"?
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[ laughter ]
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don't wear it out.
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Better to say I'm sorry
than to be a denier.
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- Okay.
- Ooh.
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Sal from pittsburgh said,
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"sonja, what's with
the fascination
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with catching a dick
this season?"
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[ laughter ]
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"is this
a law of attraction thing?
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Say it enough,
and it'll appear"?
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No, I believe
when you're drinking,
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sometimes you project.
I'm gonna say,
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the reason I was like, ahh,
I wasn't getting any
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since, like, October.
- Mm.
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Malia from l.A. Said,
"ladies, once again this season,
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the subject of dick pics
has reared its--ahem--head."
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[ laughs ]
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sometimes it's easier to just
ask for a dick pic.
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- But why? I mean, it's--
- if it's a micro penis.
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I'm not wasting my time.
- Oh, my god.
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"excluding leah
for obvious reasons,
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who in the group do you think
receives the most dick pics?
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- Ramona.
- Ramona.
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- Are you crazy?
- She's not into dick pics.
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- Oh, my god, never.
[ laughter ]
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- no, no.
- Sonja.
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No, I don't do dick pics.
I got one--
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you said you got one
as a wrong number.
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I was about to show you
my dick pic.
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The only one I ever got
in my life,
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and it was a wrong number.
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He says to me, "no response?"
[ laughs ] "I miss you, too."
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- I miss it, too. Send it over.
- Oh, my god.
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Dorinda tried to backtrack
the number to see who it was,
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but I liked his décor.
I liked his apartment.
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- Gotta call my people.
- You liked his "dick-or"?
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- Décor. [ laughs ]
- how was the dick?
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- "dick-or"?
- "dick-or."
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well, we couldn't really
size it up.
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Oh, my god. Moving on.
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Well, she's been called
the "singer stinger"
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and the "apologizer."
- oh, jesus.
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But this season,
the women wondered,
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could ramona be called
a good friend? Take a look.
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- Hi, ramona.
- Hi.
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Christina, lovely to see you.
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Hi! Do you see I'm here?
I come here all the time.
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Oh, my god.
My other girlfriend. Hi!
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Ramona, you're not
a "socia-light."
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you're social ----ing heavy.
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- [ laughs ]
- come over say hello.
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- Come over.
- Are you here,
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or are you sort of here?
- Are you kidding?
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- My friends are calling me.
- I know, but you're here
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with your friends here.
- I am social,
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and I have a problem.
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They don't have as
many girlfriends as I do.
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Oh, my god.
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Maybe a little obsessed
with me and a little jealous?
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- [ laughs ]
- I love ramona.
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And I love her friends,
but I just think
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she's treating us friends
like sh--,
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like we're chicken liver.
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You're chopped liver.
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With sonja,
I have to bring myself down.
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With my other friends,
I have to elevate myself.
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- That's what she said.
- What does she expect me to do,
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hang from the chandelier?
- Aw.
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- Come on.
- Yeah, well,
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I was on a diuretic.
- I'll see you in the morning.
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I'm gonna go
to my girlfriend's party.
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- Ramona, stop!
- Are you kidding me?
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Leah. Oh, god, leah.
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- I'm gonna go to a party.
- No, you're not.
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Girls, I wanna go out.
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The winner
of the worst hostess award
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goes to ramona singer.
[ blows raspberry ]
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[ laughter ]
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that is very funny.
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She called me crying because
she fat shames her.
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- Yeah.
- When we were at the spa...
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Oh, my god.
You see the difference
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between yourself now and then?
- Really?
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So how many girlfriends do you
have coming to your birthday?
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- 50.
- 50?
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You don't talk to 50 women.
Come on.
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50 women. I would not be
where I am today.
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[ mockingly ] they were there
for me when I was going--
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- I said--are you sober yet?
- No, they're not there for you.
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- That's true.
- Well, that's why I'm having--
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shut the [bleep] up
about that!
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[ laughter ]
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nancy, lucia hwong gordon,
and pamela morgan
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were all at my baby shower,
and ramona's like,
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"these are my friends
for a long time."
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I'm like, "yeah, through me."
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my girls got me this,
'cause you know, they--
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oh, the pocketbook fund.
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Get the [bleep] outta here.
We're talking about--
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we're having
a serious discussion.
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Talking about superficial sh--.
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She literally asked each person
to donate $100 to get a gift.
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Well, at least she has
a real gucci bag now,
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'cause the other one she wears
is fake.
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All my gucci bags are real,
by the way.
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No, they're not. Definitely not.
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All right. Phillip
from kansas city wonders,
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"sonja, dorinda, and luann,
is ramona in the hamptons
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"different
from ramona in the city?
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"seems like her sole reason
for existing in the hamptons
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is to see and be seen.
Do you agree?"
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- amen.
- Yes.
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- Yeah.
- Okay.
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Yeah, actually what happened--
the reason why I have
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a lot of girlfriends is
everything is very popular...
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Well, I wasn't asking that
about the girlfriends.
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- God.
- ...In the hamptons.
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I have dinner parties
for 10, 20.
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I go to parties for 10, 20.
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Yeah. That's why
you're in the hamptons.
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All those girls at my party--
I've seen half of them
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a dozen times since I've been
in the hamptons
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in small groups of 10.
- Okay.
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Ryan from chattanooga said,
"ramona, you've always been
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"a double booker,
but leaving a party
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"at your own home
in the hamptons was nuts.
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Can you not see how desperately
you suffer from fomo?"
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well, no, what happened was,
okay,
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we were all invited
to this party.
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No, basically you needed
to go out to get action.
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They were all really enjoying
themselves,
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and they didn't want to leave.
And you know what?
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I knew they were just gonna,
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like, just, like,
you know, crash out,
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and I wanted to go out
for an hour.
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- Put vibrators in the chicken?
- Yeah, and not remember
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how it got there?
- You weren't thinking
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about us at all. You just
wanted to go to the party
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'cause you're horny.
That's it.
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Sonja, it seems that ramona
bringing up her 50 friends
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was a real trigger for you. Why?
- Absolutely.
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I've been there for her
through thick and thin.
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You know what? 60 is--
- and you feel like
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a lot of those friends
are your friends?
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Excuse me, 60's the new 40.
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How many times have you seen
pamela morgan?
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Shut--stfu!
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[ laughs ]
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when we come back...
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I go, "sonja, maybe you need
to lose a little weight."
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I was so embarrassed, I cried.
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Maybe you should lose
a few pounds.
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♪♪♪
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we've been there for her
through thick and thin.
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And you feel like a lot of
those friends are your friends.
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How many times have you seen
pamela morgan?
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Shut--stfu! Okay?
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- [ laughs ]
- I've seen pamela morgan
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15 times since I got back.
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She did my daughter's
birthday--baby shower.
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How many times
have you seen her?
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That was 20 years ago.
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How many times have you seen her
in two months?
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- I've seen her 15 times.
- I see her all the time.
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Good for you.
You work a little harder at it.
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- She doesn't see anybody.
You work a l- she--arder at it.
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- She goes down under.
- There you go, a hit.
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- Well, so I'm a recluse.
- I don't have a husband.
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My girlfriends are everything.
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Where are these people gonna be
when it's you and me,
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we're 2-for-1 martinis...
- You don't wanna see me.
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- ...At the burger heaven?
- I work out with pamela.
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- I get food.
- 2-for-1 martinis at...
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...At her house.
She did a big cooking party.
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That's you and me. Not them!
They don't care about you.
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They're using you to do
the pocketbook fund.
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00:10:00,334 --> 00:10:03,835
We'll all chip in $100. You know
what I said to the $100? This.
301
00:10:03,870 --> 00:10:04,903
'cause I'm not buying you
chanels...
302
00:10:04,938 --> 00:10:07,005
- That's what I did, too.
- ...To be your friend.
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Gareth from dallas said,
"ladies, by a show of hands,
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00:10:09,943 --> 00:10:12,677
"who doesn't think
ramona sounds like an asshole
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00:10:12,713 --> 00:10:15,046
whenever she talks
about having 50..."
306
00:10:15,082 --> 00:10:16,848
- a what?
- An asshole.
307
00:10:16,883 --> 00:10:18,283
- "...60, or 70 friends."
- who doesn't think?
308
00:10:18,318 --> 00:10:19,184
Yeah, you sound like an ass.
I said that.
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00:10:19,219 --> 00:10:21,119
- We all think she's--
- you know what?
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I'm 64 years old. I've
cultivated these girlfriends
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since I'm 25.
When you're 30 years later...
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00:10:23,857 --> 00:10:25,690
No, you've cultivated them
the last 25 seconds.
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You'll have a lot of--
more girlfriends, too, okay?
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00:10:27,194 --> 00:10:29,060
- These are my girls.
- I don't think I will.
315
00:10:29,096 --> 00:10:31,296
I love them. I hang out
with them for birthday parties,
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dinner parties, thanksgiving...
- I keep my circle tight.
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- ...Bar mitzvahs.
- Got it.
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- I see them all the time.
- [ yawns loudly ]
319
00:10:36,236 --> 00:10:38,169
- oh, wow, that's deep.
- I'm so blessed.
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- That's really deep.
- Dorinda, what's wrong
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00:10:41,041 --> 00:10:43,108
with a 63-year-old woman
throwing herself
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00:10:43,143 --> 00:10:44,576
a birthday party?
- [ laughs ]
323
00:10:44,611 --> 00:10:47,278
- ohh.
- It just seems insincere.
324
00:10:47,314 --> 00:10:48,246
- That many women--
- you threw your own party
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for your own birthday.
- I know, but it was
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for people that were--
- but it was just us.
327
00:10:51,184 --> 00:10:52,150
Such a contradiction.
328
00:10:52,185 --> 00:10:53,318
There was, like,
10 people there.
329
00:10:53,353 --> 00:10:55,854
These women--some of them,
you just met.
330
00:10:55,889 --> 00:10:57,489
- Who did I just meet?
- Mary.
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00:10:57,524 --> 00:10:58,490
- Maria?
- Maria.
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Oh, my god. Are you kidding me?
333
00:10:59,760 --> 00:11:00,725
You've known her
for a year and a half.
334
00:11:00,761 --> 00:11:02,027
I see--she's at my house
every other day.
335
00:11:02,062 --> 00:11:05,997
And I feel like an emptiness.
I used to always wake up happy,
336
00:11:06,033 --> 00:11:07,866
and I wake up in this apartment,
and I start crying.
337
00:11:07,901 --> 00:11:09,901
I just think it comes off
as insincere.
338
00:11:09,936 --> 00:11:12,570
Maria and I are very close.
You're so wrong, dorinda.
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00:11:12,606 --> 00:11:14,906
- She's social climbing.
- Danny from west hollywood
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00:11:14,941 --> 00:11:17,308
said, "leah, you threw
some shade at ramona,
341
00:11:17,344 --> 00:11:19,144
"saying that at least
after her party,
342
00:11:19,179 --> 00:11:21,446
"ramona has a real gucci bag.
343
00:11:21,481 --> 00:11:23,481
"did you spot her
with a fake before,
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00:11:23,517 --> 00:11:25,050
or where did you get
your intel?"
345
00:11:25,085 --> 00:11:26,518
- yeah, I did.
- You did?
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00:11:26,553 --> 00:11:28,019
- This--I have all real gucci.
- Not that one.
347
00:11:28,055 --> 00:11:29,754
- No, not that one.
- I have all gucci, sorry.
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00:11:29,790 --> 00:11:31,389
It had a giant--
these two giant g's
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00:11:31,425 --> 00:11:32,957
that I could tell were fake.
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00:11:32,993 --> 00:11:35,927
The day I understand everyone
in our group...
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00:11:35,962 --> 00:11:37,095
- Yeah.
- ...Will be the day
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00:11:37,130 --> 00:11:39,397
that I have a billion dollars.
- Yeah.
353
00:11:39,433 --> 00:11:42,233
- No, sweetie, they're all real.
- [ singsongy ] chinatown!
354
00:11:42,269 --> 00:11:43,401
Someone--someone that has
a real bag...
355
00:11:43,437 --> 00:11:44,769
- They're all real. Sorry.
- ...Doesn't act that excited
356
00:11:44,805 --> 00:11:46,004
when they get
just a freaking bag.
357
00:11:46,039 --> 00:11:49,107
You acted like you've never
seen a bag before. It was weird.
358
00:11:49,142 --> 00:11:55,313
Okay. Aah!
Thank you! Thank you! Thank you!
359
00:11:55,348 --> 00:11:57,415
Look what the girls got me
for my present.
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00:11:57,451 --> 00:12:00,618
It's the new black.
You're not borrowing this.
361
00:12:00,654 --> 00:12:02,387
You are not borrowing this.
362
00:12:02,422 --> 00:12:05,056
You know what? It was a present.
I love presents.
363
00:12:05,092 --> 00:12:06,257
I got--I jumped up and down
and asked the group
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00:12:06,293 --> 00:12:07,258
if they would join me.
- No, you went,
365
00:12:07,294 --> 00:12:09,661
"eee! Look what I have!"
it was, like, crazy.
366
00:12:09,696 --> 00:12:12,263
- It was just a freaking bag.
- Well, I'm excited. I'm sorry.
367
00:12:12,299 --> 00:12:13,998
I'm like a little kid.
Sorry I'm happy.
368
00:12:14,034 --> 00:12:16,134
Nick from new york said,
"ramona, why would you ever
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00:12:16,169 --> 00:12:19,637
call one of your close friends
heavy like you did to sonja?"
370
00:12:19,673 --> 00:12:21,139
- yeah, why?
- "I know you have a bit
371
00:12:21,174 --> 00:12:23,041
"of the diarrhea of the mouth,
but that was rude
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00:12:23,076 --> 00:12:24,509
and uncalled for."
- because you know what?
373
00:12:24,544 --> 00:12:25,810
Sonja and I have
these voluptuous bodies,
374
00:12:25,846 --> 00:12:27,512
and I can go up and down
by 10 pounds.
375
00:12:27,547 --> 00:12:29,314
You're looking up right now,
but that's all right.
376
00:12:29,349 --> 00:12:31,082
When my girlfriends say,
"oh, ramona,
377
00:12:31,118 --> 00:12:32,650
you're getting a little porky,"
I go, "oh, sh--, you're right.
378
00:12:32,686 --> 00:12:33,952
Oh, my god. Yes,"
and I go, "sonja..."
379
00:12:33,987 --> 00:12:35,386
'cause she was trying
to struggle...
380
00:12:35,422 --> 00:12:36,488
- Yeah.
- I go, "sonja, maybe
381
00:12:36,523 --> 00:12:37,822
you need to lose
a little weight."
382
00:12:37,858 --> 00:12:39,057
that's all I said.
And guess what, andy?
383
00:12:39,092 --> 00:12:42,961
That's when I started putting
hand to mouth, eating more.
384
00:12:42,996 --> 00:12:44,162
Oh, really? So it didn't work.
I went from 147 to 152.
385
00:12:44,197 --> 00:12:46,598
- Well, it's not my fault.
- And you can attest to that...
386
00:12:46,633 --> 00:12:48,833
If a good girlfriend can't
tell you you need something,
387
00:12:48,869 --> 00:12:52,203
who can? Sorry.
- That's right.
388
00:12:52,239 --> 00:12:53,338
- But she told me that--
- I don't think
389
00:12:53,373 --> 00:12:55,373
she was fat-shaming you.
- I was so embarrassed, I cried.
390
00:12:55,408 --> 00:12:57,075
Well, now you lost 27 pounds,
so there you go.
391
00:12:57,110 --> 00:13:00,011
Not because of you shaming me.
I had to go to the desert
392
00:13:00,046 --> 00:13:01,346
and get connected
with my spiritual side.
393
00:13:01,381 --> 00:13:03,281
I didn't shame you. I said maybe
you should lose a few pounds.
394
00:13:03,316 --> 00:13:04,449
Maybe I should get a friend
395
00:13:04,484 --> 00:13:05,483
that's a little more
compassionate.
396
00:13:05,519 --> 00:13:07,585
'cause I know you don't wanna
buy new clothes.
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00:13:07,621 --> 00:13:11,156
July from queens said, "dorinda,
you gave elyse a lot of grief
398
00:13:11,191 --> 00:13:12,490
"for defending ramona,
399
00:13:12,526 --> 00:13:15,193
but hasn't sonja been
doing that for years?"
400
00:13:15,228 --> 00:13:17,462
sonja flip-flops.
She depends... [ laughs ]
401
00:13:17,497 --> 00:13:19,397
no, she's always defending
ramona...
402
00:13:19,432 --> 00:13:20,632
- Yeah.
- ...Even if she's wrong.
403
00:13:20,667 --> 00:13:22,267
True that.
404
00:13:22,302 --> 00:13:24,669
Elyse was coming to leah and I
constantly and saying
405
00:13:24,704 --> 00:13:28,173
how terrible ramona
was being to her,
406
00:13:28,208 --> 00:13:30,208
and she couldn't figure out why.
407
00:13:30,243 --> 00:13:33,077
When we're not with you girls,
we're great.
408
00:13:33,113 --> 00:13:36,247
It's only around this group
that she gets a little weird.
409
00:13:36,283 --> 00:13:39,717
- Well, that's weird.
- She just shuts it down.
410
00:13:39,753 --> 00:13:41,319
You know what it is?
411
00:13:41,354 --> 00:13:44,489
Ramonaville is filled
with a lot of one-way streets.
412
00:13:44,524 --> 00:13:47,358
Really? You're gonna pretend
I'm not even standing here?
413
00:13:47,394 --> 00:13:50,328
I don't know who you are.
414
00:13:50,363 --> 00:13:52,530
You're gonna ----ing walk away
like you don't know who I am?
415
00:13:52,566 --> 00:13:53,698
You know what? No.
416
00:13:53,733 --> 00:13:55,466
You are a duplicitous,
nefarious...
417
00:13:55,502 --> 00:13:56,901
- You know what?
- ...Narcisstic...
418
00:13:56,937 --> 00:13:58,903
- You're an evil girl.
- ...Superficial bitch.
419
00:13:58,939 --> 00:14:01,739
I still to this day
don't know why you two fell out.
420
00:14:01,775 --> 00:14:03,508
- I really don't.
- Why did you fall out, ramona?
421
00:14:03,543 --> 00:14:05,643
- She's a black widow.
- [ laughs ]
422
00:14:05,679 --> 00:14:08,012
and I knew this, and I should
have never trusted her.
423
00:14:08,048 --> 00:14:09,747
- Follow your gut.
- I felt bad,
424
00:14:09,783 --> 00:14:12,050
but she did betray ramona.
- So you felt like
425
00:14:12,085 --> 00:14:13,151
you brought her on the show,
426
00:14:13,186 --> 00:14:14,152
and she was talking sh--
about you.
427
00:14:14,187 --> 00:14:15,486
No, she said to me,
"I will come on the show,
428
00:14:15,522 --> 00:14:19,490
and these girls don't have
your back, but I will."
429
00:14:19,526 --> 00:14:20,558
and she didn't have my back.
She betrayed me.
430
00:14:20,594 --> 00:14:21,926
- Oh, there it is.
- Okay. Now she--
431
00:14:21,962 --> 00:14:22,927
she didn't want her
to have any--yeah.
432
00:14:22,963 --> 00:14:25,296
You wanted her to have
blind loyalty to you.
433
00:14:25,332 --> 00:14:27,131
- Yeah.
- Well, who doesn't?
434
00:14:27,167 --> 00:14:28,399
- And she didn't, so...
- Right. Okay.
435
00:14:28,435 --> 00:14:30,335
And she betrayed me, so why
would I want her around me?
436
00:14:30,370 --> 00:14:32,170
Is she the barbara k.
Of this season?
437
00:14:32,205 --> 00:14:34,505
- Yeah.
- Are you and barbara k.
438
00:14:34,541 --> 00:14:36,574
Not friends anymore?
- No.
439
00:14:36,610 --> 00:14:38,443
- Wow. That's too bad.
- You gotta have loyalty.
440
00:14:38,478 --> 00:14:40,445
- You have to respect people.
- That was a long friendship.
441
00:14:40,480 --> 00:14:42,513
Yeah. That was her doing,
though.
442
00:14:42,549 --> 00:14:44,449
You're not adele, luann,
but you're not--
443
00:14:44,484 --> 00:14:45,516
no, I'm not,
and I don't pretend to be.
444
00:14:45,552 --> 00:14:47,752
- But you're--but--but--
- and to actually say that
445
00:14:47,787 --> 00:14:49,754
was not very nice for me
to hear.
446
00:14:49,789 --> 00:14:52,624
But I always feel like you're
about to ruin a friendship
447
00:14:52,659 --> 00:14:54,392
over something like that.
448
00:14:54,427 --> 00:14:56,661
Yeah, and it was elyse's doing,
same thing.
449
00:14:56,696 --> 00:14:59,797
Valerie from chicago said,
"ramona, you were accused
450
00:14:59,833 --> 00:15:03,368
"by sonja, dorinda, and elyse
for being friends
451
00:15:03,403 --> 00:15:06,604
"when it's convenient and that
you're in your own world,
452
00:15:06,640 --> 00:15:08,273
"and everyone
is just living in it.
453
00:15:08,308 --> 00:15:10,174
What do you have to say
about that?"
454
00:15:10,210 --> 00:15:12,744
no, I'm with friends of people
who are happy
455
00:15:12,779 --> 00:15:15,480
and bring me happiness
and are positive people.
456
00:15:15,515 --> 00:15:16,714
But that's not what having
friendship's about.
457
00:15:16,750 --> 00:15:19,384
Sometimes you're not happy.
Sometimes--I mean, my friends...
458
00:15:19,419 --> 00:15:21,486
- When it's convenient.
- I've had friends for 20 years.
459
00:15:21,521 --> 00:15:23,488
Well, I'm just saying
I like happy people, sorry.
460
00:15:23,523 --> 00:15:26,224
And I--I know, but then that's
just called superficial friends.
461
00:15:26,259 --> 00:15:27,225
- That's called acquaintances.
- Yeah.
462
00:15:27,260 --> 00:15:30,261
But if I'm going through
something traumatic,
463
00:15:30,297 --> 00:15:32,430
I have to find a friend
that's gonna shepherd me
464
00:15:32,465 --> 00:15:33,998
and journey me through that--
well, happiness isn't--
465
00:15:34,034 --> 00:15:35,800
- here I am.
- Life isn't about
466
00:15:35,835 --> 00:15:37,402
always being happy.
- Aw.
467
00:15:37,437 --> 00:15:38,670
When luann's down, I'm there.
468
00:15:38,705 --> 00:15:42,407
So to wrap up this conversation,
how are you ladies feeling
469
00:15:42,442 --> 00:15:45,410
about ramona after all this?
470
00:15:45,445 --> 00:15:47,378
Sonja?
471
00:15:47,414 --> 00:15:49,580
We're family. I love her.
472
00:15:49,616 --> 00:15:53,318
You seem like you are gonna
do a reset.
473
00:15:53,353 --> 00:15:56,154
I'll probably never ruin
your backyard again.
474
00:15:56,189 --> 00:15:58,022
- That you--I can promise you.
- You promise?
475
00:15:58,058 --> 00:15:59,791
- [ laughs ]
- she cleaned it up.
476
00:15:59,826 --> 00:16:01,292
But I'm not gonna promise that
I'm not gonna get naked again.
477
00:16:01,328 --> 00:16:03,027
Can you get naked, though?
I wanna see you naked.
478
00:16:03,063 --> 00:16:04,462
- Oh, that you're gonna do.
- I want to see you naked.
479
00:16:04,497 --> 00:16:06,197
- All right.
- I want you naked.
480
00:16:06,232 --> 00:16:08,199
Coming up...
481
00:16:08,234 --> 00:16:10,735
I don't think dorinda
hits below the belt.
482
00:16:10,770 --> 00:16:14,539
What?! I'm sorry.
You need to think about that.
483
00:16:17,843 --> 00:16:19,210
Welcome back to
484
00:16:19,245 --> 00:16:20,545
"the real housewives
of new york city"
485
00:16:20,580 --> 00:16:21,546
season 12 reunion.
486
00:16:21,581 --> 00:16:25,650
We are freshly sanitized
and ready for more.
487
00:16:25,685 --> 00:16:27,885
This season,
sonja by sonja morgan
488
00:16:27,921 --> 00:16:30,788
made a promising deal
with a major retailer,
489
00:16:30,824 --> 00:16:33,791
but unfortunately,
sonja's townhouse
490
00:16:33,827 --> 00:16:38,830
continued with its promise
to be an expensive nightmare.
491
00:16:38,865 --> 00:16:40,465
- Take a look.
- [ laughs ]
492
00:16:40,500 --> 00:16:43,134
this would be
a wedding final look, right?
493
00:16:43,169 --> 00:16:45,336
We started the fashion line
in 2014,
494
00:16:45,372 --> 00:16:46,704
and now we're going back
to fashion week.
495
00:16:46,740 --> 00:16:48,706
Who is this?
496
00:16:48,742 --> 00:16:51,275
He's a photographer. He goes
at the end of the runway.
497
00:16:51,311 --> 00:16:53,878
- It's nerve-racking.
- Here we go.
498
00:16:53,913 --> 00:16:55,880
♪♪♪
499
00:16:59,352 --> 00:17:00,752
[ cheers and applause ]
- yeah.
500
00:17:00,787 --> 00:17:02,587
This is sonja by sonja morgan.
501
00:17:02,622 --> 00:17:04,689
It's a really great moment
for me.
502
00:17:04,724 --> 00:17:06,657
Got a $1,200 bill
for, like, 3 days of water
503
00:17:06,693 --> 00:17:08,559
just running, running, running.
504
00:17:08,595 --> 00:17:10,228
I am so stressed.
505
00:17:10,263 --> 00:17:12,697
I'm paying rent at my apartment
at columbus circle.
506
00:17:12,732 --> 00:17:15,166
I'm paying the overhead
of the townhouse.
507
00:17:15,201 --> 00:17:17,268
- Elevator still broken?
- Oh, my god.
508
00:17:17,303 --> 00:17:20,171
It probably runs me about
$50,000 a month,
509
00:17:20,206 --> 00:17:23,641
so it's not a big deal for most
people who live in townhouses,
510
00:17:23,676 --> 00:17:26,711
but for me? Hell, yes.
511
00:17:26,746 --> 00:17:29,313
I said to sonja, "I haven't
spoken to you for days."
512
00:17:29,349 --> 00:17:30,548
you know, there's a certain
sadness that lives within her...
513
00:17:30,583 --> 00:17:32,850
- She's, like, struggling.
- ...Which I think is still
514
00:17:32,886 --> 00:17:34,452
struggling with her past.
You know what I mean?
515
00:17:34,487 --> 00:17:35,520
And she has to work on it.
516
00:17:35,555 --> 00:17:37,355
I feel like
I've really developed
517
00:17:37,390 --> 00:17:38,689
a great relationship with sonja,
518
00:17:38,725 --> 00:17:40,658
but I still feel like
there's just some things
519
00:17:40,693 --> 00:17:42,693
she's not communicating.
520
00:17:42,729 --> 00:17:44,862
I hide when
I go through something.
521
00:17:44,898 --> 00:17:46,431
I only call you
when I'm feeling great
522
00:17:46,466 --> 00:17:47,865
and I have great stuff
to tell you. I hide.
523
00:17:47,901 --> 00:17:50,234
We worry about you.
That's for sure.
524
00:17:50,270 --> 00:17:52,737
Yeah, show the bottom line.
525
00:17:52,772 --> 00:17:55,573
Yeah. Right. Okay.
526
00:17:57,377 --> 00:17:59,477
Did we get more sales
from the fashion show?
527
00:17:59,512 --> 00:18:00,611
No, no, we did not.
528
00:18:00,647 --> 00:18:02,346
[ scoffs ]
I know that fashion...
529
00:18:02,382 --> 00:18:05,416
Ramona, "no, no, we did not."
530
00:18:05,452 --> 00:18:07,318
there is a future, though.
531
00:18:07,353 --> 00:18:08,553
So we wanna do something
special.
532
00:18:08,588 --> 00:18:12,557
Downtown, our flagship, over
200,000 square feet of store,
533
00:18:12,592 --> 00:18:15,460
on top of that,
we wanna also carry this
534
00:18:15,495 --> 00:18:17,895
in the herald square store.
535
00:18:17,931 --> 00:18:20,531
I'm trying to be so serious
in this meeting,
536
00:18:20,567 --> 00:18:21,833
but inside I'm dying.
537
00:18:21,868 --> 00:18:26,471
- Sonja-rita!
- Whoo!
538
00:18:26,506 --> 00:18:29,373
- [ singsongy ] sonja morgan!
- Right? Look!
539
00:18:29,409 --> 00:18:32,009
Holy moly,
you guys look amazing.
540
00:18:32,045 --> 00:18:34,612
If anyone ever doubted me
before,
541
00:18:34,647 --> 00:18:36,681
I don't have to be right,
and I never say,
542
00:18:36,716 --> 00:18:40,051
"I told you so,"
but it still feels good.
543
00:18:40,086 --> 00:18:44,255
- I love you guys!
- [ cheering ]
544
00:18:44,290 --> 00:18:45,923
congratulations, sonja.
545
00:18:45,959 --> 00:18:48,493
I still have to pinch myself,
as they say,
546
00:18:48,528 --> 00:18:50,294
because it's been such
a long haul,
547
00:18:50,330 --> 00:18:52,463
and actually, an overhaul
of so many things
548
00:18:52,499 --> 00:18:55,666
in myself this whole time,
so, yeah, I feel good
549
00:18:55,702 --> 00:18:56,667
where I'm sitting.
550
00:18:56,703 --> 00:18:59,337
I've been in
the fashion business for years.
551
00:18:59,372 --> 00:19:03,407
And the fact that sonja
was in two major retail stores
552
00:19:03,443 --> 00:19:06,410
of century 21,
front and center--
553
00:19:06,446 --> 00:19:07,845
are you kidding me?
It's all about placement.
554
00:19:07,881 --> 00:19:10,581
- Honey, that says it all.
- I was so proud of her
555
00:19:10,617 --> 00:19:13,284
when I walked in to finally
see it living on the floor
556
00:19:13,319 --> 00:19:14,752
and looking good.
557
00:19:14,787 --> 00:19:16,621
I actually bought
one of her dresses.
558
00:19:16,656 --> 00:19:18,789
You girls have been there
for me every step of the way.
559
00:19:18,825 --> 00:19:22,026
I thought it was so cool
having sat here with you
560
00:19:22,061 --> 00:19:24,962
for so many years,
and the toaster line
561
00:19:24,998 --> 00:19:26,330
didn't come to fruition.
562
00:19:26,366 --> 00:19:27,965
When does the toaster come out?
563
00:19:28,001 --> 00:19:29,133
You saw the toaster, and it has
my signature on it.
564
00:19:29,169 --> 00:19:33,471
- When does it come out?
- I have it. It's ready to go.
565
00:19:33,506 --> 00:19:34,572
But it's part
of a whole collection--
566
00:19:34,607 --> 00:19:36,374
the tongs, the mitts,
the aprons,
567
00:19:36,409 --> 00:19:38,442
and I needed a hang tag
for each thing.
568
00:19:38,478 --> 00:19:42,713
You had the women all over you
for various cheater brands
569
00:19:42,749 --> 00:19:45,816
I think it's kind of a fluke
that, you know,
570
00:19:45,852 --> 00:19:47,652
tipsy girl and skinny girl.
571
00:19:47,687 --> 00:19:49,420
- Oh, you think it's--
- they're both drinks.
572
00:19:49,455 --> 00:19:51,322
- I think you're a fraud.
- I have never felt that.
573
00:19:51,357 --> 00:19:52,456
And I don't want anything
to do with you.
574
00:19:52,492 --> 00:19:56,327
Thought it would be a great way
for me to get ahead.
575
00:19:56,362 --> 00:19:57,962
Products that never launched.
576
00:19:57,997 --> 00:20:00,665
- The nigerian football team.
- The hang tags.
577
00:20:00,700 --> 00:20:01,999
- The hang tags.
- [ laughs ]
578
00:20:02,035 --> 00:20:03,000
I get hundreds of emails
all the time,
579
00:20:03,036 --> 00:20:06,070
people saying they would like me
to do jewelry,
580
00:20:06,105 --> 00:20:08,573
they would like me to do
wine out of a can.
581
00:20:08,608 --> 00:20:12,910
But I have to meditate. I would
like to do my abundance candle,
582
00:20:12,946 --> 00:20:14,579
light that, to look at all
583
00:20:14,614 --> 00:20:16,781
the opportunities
that come my way.
584
00:20:16,816 --> 00:20:20,351
And here you are.
You're in a store.
585
00:20:20,386 --> 00:20:23,521
And it must feel
very satisfying.
586
00:20:23,556 --> 00:20:26,891
It is satisfying, and I know
my daughter's very proud of me,
587
00:20:26,926 --> 00:20:28,893
and I always teach her,
these are not mistakes.
588
00:20:28,928 --> 00:20:32,496
These are experiences,
and I've made many connections
589
00:20:32,532 --> 00:20:35,766
in the business,
so eyes are on me.
590
00:20:35,802 --> 00:20:39,971
So how has the pandemic
affected everything? I mean--
591
00:20:40,006 --> 00:20:42,873
well, retail online is up 117%,
592
00:20:42,909 --> 00:20:45,343
and everything that I had online
is sold out.
593
00:20:45,378 --> 00:20:46,444
- Well, that's a great thing.
- It's tough.
594
00:20:46,479 --> 00:20:48,479
It's tough--retail, very tough.
595
00:20:48,514 --> 00:20:51,415
Well, I think that right now
the cashmere suit
596
00:20:51,451 --> 00:20:52,883
that you wanted me to wear
to your party...
597
00:20:52,919 --> 00:20:54,685
- Terrible!
- You look like a...
598
00:20:54,721 --> 00:20:56,754
- Terrible!
- Terrible!
599
00:20:56,789 --> 00:20:58,889
Ter--not for here.
600
00:20:58,925 --> 00:21:02,059
- Go, sonja.
- No, no, no.
601
00:21:02,095 --> 00:21:03,861
Anything that looks like that
right now
602
00:21:03,896 --> 00:21:06,631
is gonna be selling the f out.
- Yeah.
603
00:21:06,666 --> 00:21:07,765
Because no one's wearing dresses
right now.
604
00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:11,102
I gotta ask about the townhouse.
What's the price now?
605
00:21:11,137 --> 00:21:14,639
It was 10.75. I'm putting it
down to 8.5 or 8.6--
606
00:21:14,674 --> 00:21:17,141
- how many square feet is it?
- It's 4,800 square feet.
607
00:21:17,176 --> 00:21:18,943
- Wow.
- Two gardens and a balcony.
608
00:21:18,978 --> 00:21:20,144
- Wow.
- It's a great townhouse,
609
00:21:20,179 --> 00:21:21,846
great location.
- I have one request.
610
00:21:21,881 --> 00:21:24,615
Before you sell it,
can I please come see it?
611
00:21:24,651 --> 00:21:25,916
- Yes!
- And step inside
612
00:21:25,952 --> 00:21:26,951
and see into the townhouse?
- I would like to come see it.
613
00:21:26,986 --> 00:21:28,886
- I've never. I haven't--
- we'll have a party!
614
00:21:28,921 --> 00:21:31,756
It's like history.
I wanna come see it.
615
00:21:31,791 --> 00:21:33,991
Why doesn't bravo rent it,
and we'll all just film there?
616
00:21:34,027 --> 00:21:35,726
- Yeah, yeah.
- Well, you know what?
617
00:21:35,762 --> 00:21:37,094
- I--you know what?
- Everyone can live there.
618
00:21:37,130 --> 00:21:39,096
- That's the next season. Yeah.
- [ laughs ]
619
00:21:39,132 --> 00:21:42,199
sonja, any prospects for men?
620
00:21:42,235 --> 00:21:43,334
Dating basically--
I wasn't getting laid.
621
00:21:43,369 --> 00:21:49,140
I was so focused on my daughter.
Now she's a sophomore
622
00:21:49,175 --> 00:21:51,475
in an ivy league school,
so guess what?
623
00:21:51,511 --> 00:21:53,411
It's time for mama
to get something.
624
00:21:53,446 --> 00:21:54,679
- All right.
- Just give me a little
625
00:21:54,714 --> 00:21:56,080
what you're getting.
- Okay, ladies.
626
00:21:56,115 --> 00:21:58,649
I'm getting sh--.
Give me what you wanna get.
627
00:21:58,685 --> 00:22:00,117
- Now you're open for business.
- And you look hot.
628
00:22:00,153 --> 00:22:01,786
- Yeah.
- Very hot.
629
00:22:01,821 --> 00:22:03,621
I need another 5 pounds off.
630
00:22:03,656 --> 00:22:05,790
- Oh, I don't know about that.
- Okay, andy.
631
00:22:05,825 --> 00:22:07,792
Coming up...
632
00:22:07,827 --> 00:22:09,527
- You reached out.
- No, you didn't.
633
00:22:09,562 --> 00:22:11,595
- Read the texts.
- Dorinda reached out to you!
634
00:22:11,631 --> 00:22:14,131
I love you!
Why are you doing this?!
635
00:22:14,167 --> 00:22:16,867
♪♪♪
636
00:22:18,538 --> 00:22:19,704
ck to
"the real housewives"
of new york city reunion.
637
00:22:19,739 --> 00:22:24,642
I'm andy cohen. A wise woman
once said, "I made it nice."
638
00:22:24,677 --> 00:22:29,980
but this season, as dorinda's
temper flared and anger arose,
639
00:22:30,016 --> 00:22:33,451
it was clear that nice
wasn't always on the table.
640
00:22:33,486 --> 00:22:34,185
Take a look.
641
00:22:34,220 --> 00:22:36,187
♪♪♪
642
00:22:36,222 --> 00:22:40,057
[ exhales deeply ] you know,
trying to get everything done.
643
00:22:40,093 --> 00:22:41,258
I'm stressed out all the time.
644
00:22:41,294 --> 00:22:45,496
Blue stone manor flooded,
so I had to go through the house
645
00:22:45,531 --> 00:22:47,465
and just rip out
the whole heating system,
646
00:22:47,500 --> 00:22:51,469
the whole electrical system,
and I'm so overwhelmed.
647
00:22:51,504 --> 00:22:54,138
There's nothing carefree
about me anymore.
648
00:22:54,173 --> 00:22:55,806
I'm not nice to anybody.
649
00:22:55,842 --> 00:22:58,743
- I am scared every day.
- Of what?
650
00:22:58,778 --> 00:23:00,010
Hannah's very dependent
on me still.
651
00:23:00,046 --> 00:23:03,214
John's very dependent on me.
I'm always running the show.
652
00:23:03,249 --> 00:23:05,649
It's not that I can't lean
on john.
653
00:23:05,685 --> 00:23:07,818
That's hot.
654
00:23:07,854 --> 00:23:12,056
But you remember, john has never
had responsibilities like this.
655
00:23:12,091 --> 00:23:14,024
Dorinda missed having richard
or having a partner
656
00:23:14,060 --> 00:23:16,160
to help her in the berkshires.
- Hands-on guy.
657
00:23:16,195 --> 00:23:17,395
What can I say?
John doesn't take care of her.
658
00:23:17,430 --> 00:23:19,296
I mean, she has to take care
of john, for goodness' sakes.
659
00:23:19,332 --> 00:23:21,098
You know this word?
660
00:23:22,535 --> 00:23:25,302
You like people's misfortune.
You like to deflect from you
661
00:23:25,338 --> 00:23:27,505
to make people feel bad.
- That's not--that's not true.
662
00:23:27,540 --> 00:23:30,074
Do you think it's nice when
you have a good girlfriend,
663
00:23:30,109 --> 00:23:30,941
and when they don't like
something,
664
00:23:30,977 --> 00:23:34,545
they say right away,
"are you drunk?"
665
00:23:34,580 --> 00:23:35,679
- at this point...
- That was funny.
666
00:23:35,715 --> 00:23:37,281
...I kind of feel bad
for ramona.
667
00:23:37,316 --> 00:23:39,850
You drunken fool...
668
00:23:43,122 --> 00:23:46,690
Was I aggressive? Yes.
Do I regret it? Nope.
669
00:23:46,726 --> 00:23:49,126
She's judging you
on your drinking...
670
00:23:49,162 --> 00:23:50,895
Judging me on my drinking?
I didn't go to jail.
671
00:23:50,930 --> 00:23:53,197
I don't mind probation.
I don't break probation.
672
00:23:53,232 --> 00:23:54,932
Dorinda, that's not very nice
of you to--
673
00:23:54,967 --> 00:23:56,567
so don't--don't you bring it up.
674
00:23:56,602 --> 00:23:58,536
I'm bringing up what she said!
675
00:23:58,571 --> 00:23:59,603
Every time you bring up
something with her,
676
00:23:59,639 --> 00:24:03,040
she deflects, and all of
a sudden, it's your fault.
677
00:24:03,075 --> 00:24:05,309
We wanna help you!
Don't you understand?
678
00:24:05,344 --> 00:24:06,710
You have a problem here.
We wanna help you.
679
00:24:06,746 --> 00:24:08,212
- You're not getting it!
- You--you need--
680
00:24:08,247 --> 00:24:09,246
[ crying ] it's really upsetting
that you won't listen!
681
00:24:09,282 --> 00:24:12,817
She's going through pain,
and rather than feel it,
682
00:24:12,852 --> 00:24:14,318
she's projecting it.
683
00:24:14,353 --> 00:24:17,054
If you don't get that,
you're an imbecile.
684
00:24:17,089 --> 00:24:18,222
Tinsley introduced me
to you guys.
685
00:24:18,257 --> 00:24:20,224
- No.
- Oh, god.
686
00:24:20,259 --> 00:24:21,659
- We're not doing that sh--.
- Sorry!
687
00:24:21,694 --> 00:24:23,594
- [bleep] you.
- Sonja.
688
00:24:23,629 --> 00:24:25,162
- Thank you.
- [bleep] her. Bullsh--!
689
00:24:25,198 --> 00:24:27,898
You're gonna give a toast
to tinsley mortimer?
690
00:24:27,934 --> 00:24:29,767
You're spitting all over.
691
00:24:29,802 --> 00:24:31,035
- [bleep] that sh--.
- Before covid, now.
692
00:24:31,070 --> 00:24:33,571
- By principle.
- Wow.
693
00:24:33,606 --> 00:24:34,805
She's, like, obsessed
with tinsley.
694
00:24:34,841 --> 00:24:36,307
Go [bleep] herself.
695
00:24:36,342 --> 00:24:38,075
- I'm stunned.
- And...
696
00:24:38,110 --> 00:24:40,177
- I'm not.
- [ laughs ]
697
00:24:40,213 --> 00:24:42,847
stupid bitch.
698
00:24:42,882 --> 00:24:44,982
All right.
Jack from minneapolis said,
699
00:24:45,017 --> 00:24:47,051
"dorinda, at the very beginning
of the season,
700
00:24:47,086 --> 00:24:50,588
you said to sonja, 'there's
nothing carefree about me.
701
00:24:50,623 --> 00:24:53,190
"I'm not nice to anybody
anymore,'
702
00:24:53,226 --> 00:24:55,359
"and then you proceeded
to prove it.
703
00:24:55,394 --> 00:24:57,194
"looking back, do you think
you ended the season
704
00:24:57,230 --> 00:24:59,096
in a better place
than you started?"
705
00:24:59,131 --> 00:25:02,600
I think that I was more
overwhelmed this season
706
00:25:02,635 --> 00:25:06,303
than I've ever been,
and I don't think I reached out
707
00:25:06,339 --> 00:25:10,774
for help enough
between the house and john,
708
00:25:10,810 --> 00:25:13,377
and then I had to go and break
my rib, and lucy dying,
709
00:25:13,412 --> 00:25:16,780
and then filming,
and I couldn't catch a break.
710
00:25:16,816 --> 00:25:20,951
And I just didn't wanna
be there, and I was angry.
711
00:25:20,987 --> 00:25:24,021
I was really angry about
what was happening about it,
712
00:25:24,056 --> 00:25:28,659
and I definitely projected it,
and I did feel like
713
00:25:28,694 --> 00:25:31,228
I couldn't cope with it.
I really did.
714
00:25:31,264 --> 00:25:34,665
I was at my wit's end.
I think the thing that made me
715
00:25:34,700 --> 00:25:38,802
really sad
and probably the most upset
716
00:25:38,838 --> 00:25:41,305
is that I didn't--you know,
I know you so well, ramona,
717
00:25:41,340 --> 00:25:44,742
and you're right. I was angry,
and I was struggling...
718
00:25:44,777 --> 00:25:48,412
[ voice breaking ] and I really
felt like you made it worse.
719
00:25:48,447 --> 00:25:51,448
And you never called me once
outside the show.
720
00:25:51,484 --> 00:25:54,985
You never took me to dinner.
All you did was remind me
721
00:25:55,021 --> 00:25:59,323
the whole time, and you--as much
as you didn't like john
722
00:25:59,358 --> 00:26:01,458
and stuff, it was mine
to go through.
723
00:26:01,494 --> 00:26:04,161
- Ramona, put that away.
- And I needed you to do it.
724
00:26:04,196 --> 00:26:08,299
I, once the show ended,
I texted you every day.
725
00:26:08,334 --> 00:26:10,000
- Here's texts.
- And the show ended, ended.
726
00:26:10,036 --> 00:26:12,169
I didn't want it
when it ended.
727
00:26:12,204 --> 00:26:13,203
I was fine when the show ended.
728
00:26:13,239 --> 00:26:15,005
- I was there for you.
- Listen.
729
00:26:15,041 --> 00:26:16,206
- I went through it.
- You weren't fine.
730
00:26:16,242 --> 00:26:18,676
- Yes, I was. The show ended.
- Okay.
731
00:26:18,711 --> 00:26:20,911
I got through it.
I moved into my place,
732
00:26:20,947 --> 00:26:22,746
and she wanted to continue it.
[ drawer closes ]
733
00:26:22,782 --> 00:26:25,115
I needed her to pull me aside,
734
00:26:25,151 --> 00:26:28,185
not constantly
in front of people hammer me.
735
00:26:28,220 --> 00:26:31,021
Do you think you were in a place
to hear it from her?
736
00:26:31,057 --> 00:26:33,357
Yes, quite--
sonja helped me with it.
737
00:26:33,392 --> 00:26:35,726
Sonja would--I would cry
to sonja at night,
738
00:26:35,761 --> 00:26:37,328
and I think I cried to you
quite a bit,
739
00:26:37,363 --> 00:26:39,196
a person I just met.
I had to show--
740
00:26:39,231 --> 00:26:41,398
well, let me ask you this.
When lu tried to talk to you,
741
00:26:41,434 --> 00:26:43,100
you weren't open to it.
742
00:26:43,135 --> 00:26:46,070
You can be angry at people
without going crazy on them.
743
00:26:46,105 --> 00:26:47,037
I will not sit here
and listen to this.
744
00:26:47,073 --> 00:26:48,172
- It's--
- because I think
745
00:26:48,207 --> 00:26:48,939
it's ridiculous after everything
that I've done with you,
746
00:26:48,975 --> 00:26:51,308
for you.
- Dorinda, you told--
747
00:26:51,344 --> 00:26:53,777
and if you live in the past,
you go nowhere.
748
00:26:53,813 --> 00:26:55,913
- I don't live in the past.
- I love who I am.
749
00:26:55,948 --> 00:26:58,449
I love who you are, too,
but I don't like it
750
00:26:58,484 --> 00:27:01,018
when you're ----ing angry.
- I'm great. I'm good.
751
00:27:01,053 --> 00:27:02,219
Thank you so much.
752
00:27:02,254 --> 00:27:04,888
Well, lu I feel bad about.
753
00:27:04,924 --> 00:27:07,725
I felt lu was coming
from a good place. I really did.
754
00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:10,227
And I'm sorry about that, lu,
'cause I love you.
755
00:27:10,262 --> 00:27:13,330
Ramona--I felt like
she was just waiting,
756
00:27:13,366 --> 00:27:15,065
and you--you felt that, too,
didn't you?
757
00:27:15,101 --> 00:27:17,101
- Yeah, absolutely.
- No.
758
00:27:17,136 --> 00:27:18,102
- You were just waiting.
- Yeah, it just didn't seem like
759
00:27:18,137 --> 00:27:20,771
it's coming from a genuine--
that doesn't...
760
00:27:20,806 --> 00:27:21,839
- When she came--excuse me.
- Back to the orchard...
761
00:27:21,874 --> 00:27:22,973
- No, I'll go back--
- ...When you first broke up
762
00:27:23,009 --> 00:27:25,509
with john, I realized how much
pain you were in then.
763
00:27:25,544 --> 00:27:28,012
Because you weren't even
admitting. I was like, wow.
764
00:27:28,047 --> 00:27:29,780
I think I remember saying this
to you. I was like,
765
00:27:29,815 --> 00:27:31,148
you guys were together
for so long.
766
00:27:31,183 --> 00:27:33,817
Now you're broken up.
Like, you must be in--
767
00:27:33,853 --> 00:27:36,186
- like, what's going on?
- Oh, my god. It was terrible.
768
00:27:36,222 --> 00:27:38,322
I know. I'm sure, but, like,
we didn't get to see that,
769
00:27:38,357 --> 00:27:40,057
you know?
- But this is interesting to me
770
00:27:40,092 --> 00:27:43,527
because you do hold tinsley
to a standard
771
00:27:43,562 --> 00:27:46,363
of she needs to do it
all on the show.
772
00:27:46,399 --> 00:27:48,232
I did do it all on the show.
773
00:27:48,267 --> 00:27:49,933
And now you're saying that
you didn't show it on the show.
774
00:27:49,969 --> 00:27:52,102
I did it all on the show.
I did it all on the show.
775
00:27:52,138 --> 00:27:53,170
And then you wanted her
to contact you--
776
00:27:53,205 --> 00:27:54,405
I was doing my house
on the show.
777
00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:56,273
Hold on. But you say you wanted
ramona to contact you
778
00:27:56,308 --> 00:27:57,775
off the show.
779
00:27:57,810 --> 00:27:59,343
I wanted ramona to call me
and just say this--
780
00:27:59,378 --> 00:28:02,146
"are you okay?"
- or on the show.
781
00:28:02,181 --> 00:28:05,783
"I love you.
I'm here for you."
782
00:28:05,818 --> 00:28:08,285
- ramona.
- Once tinsley left the show,
783
00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:11,522
then dorinda made me
her punching bag.
784
00:28:11,557 --> 00:28:13,057
- I'm sorry. You did.
- No. Here we go.
785
00:28:13,092 --> 00:28:15,592
And, um, basically,
what happened was
786
00:28:15,628 --> 00:28:17,995
she came to my home
for cocktails and conversation,
787
00:28:18,030 --> 00:28:19,430
and it was really upsetting.
788
00:28:19,465 --> 00:28:20,464
She said some
very hurtful things.
789
00:28:20,499 --> 00:28:22,299
- You know I love you.
- You're schadenfreude.
790
00:28:22,334 --> 00:28:23,500
- She wants to people down...
- Stop. Can you listen?
791
00:28:23,536 --> 00:28:24,601
- ...All the time.
- I love you.
792
00:28:24,637 --> 00:28:26,203
Okay, let her--let her--
793
00:28:26,238 --> 00:28:28,205
so basically dorinda doesn't
know how to say,
794
00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:30,874
"can we let it go?
I'm sorry it happened."
795
00:28:30,910 --> 00:28:32,142
so what dorinda did
the next day,
796
00:28:32,178 --> 00:28:35,145
which I loved and I appreciated,
she goes, "you know what?
797
00:28:35,181 --> 00:28:37,347
I made you a playlist,
like the old day tapes."
798
00:28:37,383 --> 00:28:40,117
this was the day after
she sh--ted on me
799
00:28:40,152 --> 00:28:41,151
and, like, made me
feel terrible...
800
00:28:41,187 --> 00:28:43,287
- I reached out.
- ...And cry at my apartment.
801
00:28:43,322 --> 00:28:45,422
But that's her way of saying,
"you know what? Forgive me."
802
00:28:45,458 --> 00:28:46,824
- we were both hurt.
- And I'm like, all right, fine.
803
00:28:46,859 --> 00:28:48,859
- Okay.
- Then the next time was
804
00:28:48,894 --> 00:28:50,594
at the Halloween party.
805
00:28:50,629 --> 00:28:53,163
She was terrible to me,
and she wrote, "ramona,
806
00:28:53,199 --> 00:28:55,399
"I don't like fighting, and we
need to get past this.
807
00:28:55,434 --> 00:28:58,502
So we continue, possibly. Xo.
Let's have fun next week."
808
00:28:58,537 --> 00:28:59,870
I go, "I love you, dorinda.
809
00:28:59,905 --> 00:29:01,338
There's nothing I would not do
for you."
810
00:29:01,373 --> 00:29:02,473
- you scammed us.
- "your friendship
811
00:29:02,508 --> 00:29:03,474
means everything to me."
- she's explaining herself.
812
00:29:03,509 --> 00:29:06,009
- "I love you, too."
- ...The Halloween thing.
813
00:29:06,045 --> 00:29:08,045
- Can I finish?
- I asked you.
814
00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:09,113
- Yeah.
- You did your thing.
815
00:29:09,148 --> 00:29:11,415
- She's responding to you.
- No, no, I'm not gonna
816
00:29:11,450 --> 00:29:13,517
listen to that,
'cause I wrote my texts out.
817
00:29:13,552 --> 00:29:16,019
I want her to be present.
It's one-sided.
818
00:29:16,055 --> 00:29:17,621
- Five months!
- So basically,
819
00:29:17,656 --> 00:29:19,356
for the Halloween party--
- can I finish?
820
00:29:19,391 --> 00:29:20,557
No, I'm done with it.
821
00:29:20,593 --> 00:29:21,492
Okay, so she doesn't wanna
hear you respond.
822
00:29:21,527 --> 00:29:23,494
- Dorinda, stop! Stop it!
- She used this
823
00:29:23,529 --> 00:29:25,395
to get a free party.
- Stop! Stop!
824
00:29:25,431 --> 00:29:27,397
- She dragged us...
- We were upset.
825
00:29:27,433 --> 00:29:28,866
That's what she did the whole
season. She used people.
826
00:29:28,901 --> 00:29:29,800
I'm talking about how
I contacted you every day!
827
00:29:29,835 --> 00:29:31,168
- No, you did. No, you did.
- Every day.
828
00:29:31,203 --> 00:29:32,669
- You reached out.
- Read the texts.
829
00:29:32,705 --> 00:29:36,073
- Dorinda reached out to you.
- Five months--I love you!
830
00:29:36,108 --> 00:29:37,641
Why are you doing this?!
831
00:29:37,676 --> 00:29:41,678
♪♪♪
832
00:29:41,813 --> 00:29:43,514
- dorinda, stop.
- Sonja said...
833
00:29:43,549 --> 00:29:45,282
- Stop. Let me finish.
- She used us the whole season.
834
00:29:45,317 --> 00:29:46,316
I'm talking about how
I contacted you every day.
835
00:29:46,352 --> 00:29:49,119
...Use people. No, you didn't.
No, you didn't.
836
00:29:49,155 --> 00:29:50,287
- You reached out.
- Read the texts.
837
00:29:50,322 --> 00:29:51,288
- Okay.
- Dorinda reached out to you.
838
00:29:51,323 --> 00:29:53,991
- No, it's not true.
- Five months--I love you!
839
00:29:54,026 --> 00:29:55,993
- Why are you doing this?
- Don't throw things
840
00:29:56,028 --> 00:29:57,261
in front of me.
- No, dorinda says she's angry.
841
00:29:57,296 --> 00:29:58,562
It's so low-class,
like everything.
842
00:29:58,597 --> 00:29:59,463
- I know. I'm déclassé.
- It's low--you are.
843
00:29:59,498 --> 00:30:02,032
Because you know what?
'cause you say--
844
00:30:02,067 --> 00:30:03,133
- can I--can I say something?
- I mean, and--
845
00:30:03,169 --> 00:30:04,234
- I care about you.
- Yes.
846
00:30:04,270 --> 00:30:05,936
- I care about you.
- Okay, I would like to hear--
847
00:30:05,971 --> 00:30:07,371
- lu.
- You got it, but you don't.
848
00:30:07,406 --> 00:30:09,106
- Yes, lu.
- Lu.
849
00:30:09,141 --> 00:30:10,607
- What do you have to say?
- That trip to the berkshires
850
00:30:10,643 --> 00:30:14,011
was, you know,
obviously we drank too much.
851
00:30:14,046 --> 00:30:16,613
You know, and you said
some very hurtful things to me.
852
00:30:16,649 --> 00:30:18,215
After you said very hurtful
things to sonja.
853
00:30:18,250 --> 00:30:20,150
- And I--and I--what?
- Stop deflecting.
854
00:30:20,186 --> 00:30:21,351
Listen, it doesn't give you
an excuse...
855
00:30:21,387 --> 00:30:23,153
- No.
- ...To say what you said to me
856
00:30:23,189 --> 00:30:25,122
because of sonja.
- Uh, you're correct.
857
00:30:25,157 --> 00:30:27,691
So that doesn't make sense.
Okay, that's not even the worst.
858
00:30:27,726 --> 00:30:30,460
The worst was also in mexico
859
00:30:30,496 --> 00:30:33,130
where you brought it up
yet again.
860
00:30:33,165 --> 00:30:37,568
I...I know you don't mean it,
but I want you to recognize
861
00:30:37,603 --> 00:30:39,436
how hurtful that is.
- She does.
862
00:30:39,471 --> 00:30:41,538
And then, you know,
to make matters worse,
863
00:30:41,574 --> 00:30:43,707
then you go on andy's
"watch what happens live,"
864
00:30:43,742 --> 00:30:46,310
and you talk about it,
and andy asks you point-blank,
865
00:30:46,345 --> 00:30:51,782
"do you regret what you said
to luann?" and you said no.
866
00:30:51,817 --> 00:30:54,585
- Well, I think--
- so I was like, oh, my god.
867
00:30:54,620 --> 00:30:57,554
Does she have no remorse for
the way you behaved towards me?
868
00:30:57,590 --> 00:30:59,223
- And that was wrong.
- Don't you look at yourself
869
00:30:59,258 --> 00:31:00,657
and go...
- That was wrong.
870
00:31:00,693 --> 00:31:03,393
..."oh, my god. I can't believe
I said that to lu"?
871
00:31:03,429 --> 00:31:05,462
And that, yes,
and that was wrong,
872
00:31:05,497 --> 00:31:08,332
and I want to definitely
go back to where we were
873
00:31:08,367 --> 00:31:10,500
when we first met 'cause we had
such a great love affair.
874
00:31:10,536 --> 00:31:12,636
I know, but if you're harboring
these thoughts...
875
00:31:12,671 --> 00:31:14,571
I'm not. I-I feel like I'm--
I mean--
876
00:31:14,607 --> 00:31:16,006
...When you drink
and it comes out,
877
00:31:16,041 --> 00:31:17,207
it's like, holy sh--.
- I--
878
00:31:17,243 --> 00:31:19,409
- when you drink, it comes out.
- Would you pick these up?
879
00:31:19,445 --> 00:31:20,544
I would, but I'm not allowed
to get that close.
880
00:31:20,579 --> 00:31:21,678
- I'm not feeling the love.
- But you can read them.
881
00:31:21,714 --> 00:31:23,046
But I--
882
00:31:23,082 --> 00:31:26,083
andy, you can look at them
later. [ laughs ]
883
00:31:26,118 --> 00:31:27,284
dorinda says you--you are
compassionate to her...
884
00:31:27,319 --> 00:31:29,753
- But you know, listen, I, um--
- ...And she doesn't feel
885
00:31:29,788 --> 00:31:32,656
ramona is compassionate.
- And I wanna work on that.
886
00:31:32,691 --> 00:31:34,258
I really do,
because I think you and I--
887
00:31:34,293 --> 00:31:36,827
well, I mean, I-I want you
to work on the fact that,
888
00:31:36,862 --> 00:31:40,464
you know, you are holding
these resentments towards me...
889
00:31:40,499 --> 00:31:41,632
I really--I really am not
getting to her.
890
00:31:41,667 --> 00:31:42,900
...And I can't change that
for you.
891
00:31:42,935 --> 00:31:46,136
Dorinda, I mean, there must be
some resentment or something.
892
00:31:46,171 --> 00:31:47,337
- No, anger.
- You have brought up the arrest
893
00:31:47,373 --> 00:31:49,072
and the mugshot
and the jovani thing--
894
00:31:49,108 --> 00:31:51,275
well, I find it--I find--
well, the jovani thing
895
00:31:51,310 --> 00:31:53,176
I'll always bring up, right?
No, I'm kidding you.
896
00:31:53,212 --> 00:31:54,544
- I hope not.
- Um, the arrest--I find it
897
00:31:54,580 --> 00:31:59,416
interesting that--that lu wants
to lecture me
898
00:31:59,451 --> 00:32:01,752
when, you know,
it's between ramona and I,
899
00:32:01,787 --> 00:32:04,688
and she steps in and lectures me
when we're in such a good place,
900
00:32:04,723 --> 00:32:05,856
and that makes me angry.
901
00:32:05,891 --> 00:32:07,791
No, no, it wasn't about
ramona at all.
902
00:32:07,826 --> 00:32:10,327
It was about what you said
to me and owning that...
903
00:32:10,362 --> 00:32:11,228
And saying, "you know what, lu?"
- I know, but I feel like--
904
00:32:11,263 --> 00:32:13,697
"I should have never said
those things,"
905
00:32:13,732 --> 00:32:15,766
and I don't feel from you
that you are...
906
00:32:15,801 --> 00:32:17,734
- Well, I do.
- ...That you really mean it.
907
00:32:17,770 --> 00:32:20,404
How can you look at yourself
on the show and say,
908
00:32:20,439 --> 00:32:21,571
"holy sh--, I need to change"?
909
00:32:21,607 --> 00:32:24,708
Well, I do, with you.
With her, I don't. [ chuckles ]
910
00:32:24,743 --> 00:32:26,576
- lu, I wanna work on that.
- This group. The group.
911
00:32:26,612 --> 00:32:27,744
I care for you, and I love you.
912
00:32:27,780 --> 00:32:29,112
We don't understand
what's going on.
913
00:32:29,148 --> 00:32:30,247
- What's going on?
- And I know you have
914
00:32:30,282 --> 00:32:31,448
the best intentions to me.
- I do.
915
00:32:31,483 --> 00:32:33,350
- Why do you have so much anger?
- I really, really do.
916
00:32:33,385 --> 00:32:34,518
- I do.
- Why are you thrashing out?
917
00:32:34,553 --> 00:32:35,452
- This isn't a helpful--
- and I want you to take care.
918
00:32:35,487 --> 00:32:36,520
- No, it's not.
- But, ramona, this isn't
919
00:32:36,555 --> 00:32:39,489
a way to ask her.
- Uh, well, let me ask you this.
920
00:32:39,525 --> 00:32:40,624
Look, you were
on the mexico trip.
921
00:32:40,659 --> 00:32:44,428
You--you were on the other side
of hearing the women
922
00:32:44,463 --> 00:32:46,763
say that they wanted to talk
to dorinda.
923
00:32:46,799 --> 00:32:49,433
You were no help.
You've seen her go after luann.
924
00:32:49,468 --> 00:32:51,234
- Why are you mad at me?
- This is a serious issue.
925
00:32:51,270 --> 00:32:52,769
- You're not getting it.
- I know, and they were
926
00:32:52,805 --> 00:32:54,004
trying to get--
- so what's your...
927
00:32:54,039 --> 00:32:57,407
Well, also, like, dorinda's
always been super cool to me.
928
00:32:57,443 --> 00:32:58,508
- Right.
- [ laughs ]
929
00:32:58,544 --> 00:32:59,810
- and I haven't had any...
- Right.
930
00:32:59,845 --> 00:33:01,144
- ...Bad issues with her.
- So looking at it
931
00:33:01,180 --> 00:33:03,280
as a friend of dorinda...
- Right.
932
00:33:03,315 --> 00:33:05,916
So--who she's been very cool
and inclusive and whatever...
933
00:33:05,951 --> 00:33:07,684
Yeah, and had my back
when, like--
934
00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:09,219
...What's your reaction to this?
935
00:33:09,254 --> 00:33:11,254
With dorinda, and I'm not trying
to just make excuses
936
00:33:11,290 --> 00:33:13,457
for her bad behavior
or whatever, but--
937
00:33:13,492 --> 00:33:14,391
oh, so you admit
that it's bad behavior.
938
00:33:14,426 --> 00:33:15,792
- You shouldn't. You should not.
- Hold on.
939
00:33:15,828 --> 00:33:17,794
We all admit that it's anger
and not good and abusive.
940
00:33:17,830 --> 00:33:19,563
Dorinda has apologized for that.
941
00:33:19,598 --> 00:33:21,231
I would kinda just rather deal
942
00:33:21,266 --> 00:33:24,801
with someone
that has anger issues
943
00:33:24,837 --> 00:33:29,206
than deal with someone
that says horrific things
944
00:33:29,241 --> 00:33:31,541
like ramona has.
- [ laughs ]
945
00:33:31,577 --> 00:33:33,443
because I don't think dorinda
hits below the belt.
946
00:33:33,479 --> 00:33:34,778
- What?!
- I know you do.
947
00:33:34,813 --> 00:33:35,645
She hits below the belt
with me!
948
00:33:35,681 --> 00:33:37,414
- What?!
- She makes up lies and stories.
949
00:33:37,449 --> 00:33:40,350
Are you kidding me, leah?
950
00:33:40,386 --> 00:33:41,718
Are you on the same
----ing show as us?
951
00:33:41,754 --> 00:33:43,520
- She's not here.
- I'm not excusing
952
00:33:43,555 --> 00:33:44,821
ramona's behavior at all.
- Right.
953
00:33:44,857 --> 00:33:47,457
But you can't say to look at me
and say...
954
00:33:47,493 --> 00:33:48,959
- No, I don't know. I'm not--
- ...What dorinda said to me
955
00:33:48,994 --> 00:33:50,293
is not below the belt.
I'm sorry.
956
00:33:50,329 --> 00:33:51,628
You need to think about that.
957
00:33:51,663 --> 00:33:52,562
No, you're talking
about ramona, mainly.
958
00:33:52,598 --> 00:33:54,164
'cause that's--
that was below the belt.
959
00:33:54,199 --> 00:33:55,465
- I agree, that is.
- Saying the thing
960
00:33:55,501 --> 00:33:56,500
about the mugshot?
- That was below the belt.
961
00:33:56,535 --> 00:33:57,801
Oh, yeah, it's ----ed up,
yeah, it's ----ed up.
962
00:33:57,836 --> 00:34:01,204
I have a bunch of questions.
Larry from richmond, virginia,
963
00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:02,739
said,
"ladies, "I'm not sure I heard
964
00:34:02,775 --> 00:34:04,975
"a single sincere apology
from dorinda this season,
965
00:34:05,010 --> 00:34:07,677
"but I did hear
a lot of defensive retorts
966
00:34:07,713 --> 00:34:09,546
"meant to shut you down.
967
00:34:09,581 --> 00:34:11,248
"I'd like to know if any of you
have any theories
968
00:34:11,283 --> 00:34:14,384
as to why dorinda
is as defensive as she is."
969
00:34:14,420 --> 00:34:15,919
I think 'cause
I was in a lot of pain.
970
00:34:15,954 --> 00:34:17,287
Do you think you were defensive
when you watched that?
971
00:34:17,322 --> 00:34:18,488
- Yes.
- Yeah.
972
00:34:18,524 --> 00:34:21,358
I felt very wounded, weak,
vulnerable.
973
00:34:21,393 --> 00:34:24,361
Kike I said at the winery,
I felt like I was really
974
00:34:24,396 --> 00:34:27,731
like a toothpick in an ocean
with no help.
975
00:34:27,766 --> 00:34:28,698
- You know, so it was--
- no, it's bigger than that.
976
00:34:28,734 --> 00:34:30,634
Can I say something?
And it's out of love.
977
00:34:30,669 --> 00:34:33,737
All we wanted you to say was,
like, "oh, my god--"
978
00:34:33,772 --> 00:34:34,638
I couldn't, ramona.
I was in such--
979
00:34:34,673 --> 00:34:36,239
- you're not listening to me.
- Right.
980
00:34:36,275 --> 00:34:37,674
- I was in--
- well, that's all we needed.
981
00:34:37,709 --> 00:34:39,376
- You couldn't.
- I couldn't, ramona.
982
00:34:39,411 --> 00:34:40,710
But I'm just trying to tell you
that's what we needed.
983
00:34:40,746 --> 00:34:44,414
I was in such a damaged place.
I actually needed someone to--
984
00:34:44,450 --> 00:34:47,484
I mean, literally,
to tell you the truth,
985
00:34:47,519 --> 00:34:50,253
I probably should have
taken off this season.
986
00:34:50,289 --> 00:34:51,588
- Right. Right.
- It probably was too--
987
00:34:51,623 --> 00:34:52,722
I think I told you that.
I was, like, on the verge
988
00:34:52,758 --> 00:34:54,891
of a nervous breakdown.
- And you were crying a lot.
989
00:34:54,927 --> 00:34:56,359
- I know you were crying.
- All the time.
990
00:34:56,395 --> 00:34:57,461
I wanna talk
about the anger intervention...
991
00:34:57,496 --> 00:34:58,261
- Between--oh, my god.
- She was insecure at times.
992
00:34:58,297 --> 00:35:00,897
...That happened at lunch
in mexico.
993
00:35:00,933 --> 00:35:02,699
- That was ridiculous.
- Seeing how it all unfolded,
994
00:35:02,734 --> 00:35:05,035
doesn't seem like you picked
the right moment there.
995
00:35:05,070 --> 00:35:06,570
No.
996
00:35:06,605 --> 00:35:08,905
My daughter was on the phone,
not doing an invite
997
00:35:08,941 --> 00:35:10,740
that you can do in your room.
It's my daughter.
998
00:35:10,776 --> 00:35:12,409
- So when your daughter calls--
- you came and sat down with us.
999
00:35:12,444 --> 00:35:13,477
- We were already working.
- No, no, hold on.
1000
00:35:13,512 --> 00:35:14,711
Sometimes you just at--
you blow up and you get
1001
00:35:14,746 --> 00:35:15,745
really angry
and you walk away.
1002
00:35:15,781 --> 00:35:17,781
- No, no.
- Right now you're angry.
1003
00:35:17,816 --> 00:35:18,915
- Don't even start that, lu.
- You're angry now.
1004
00:35:18,951 --> 00:35:21,651
I gotta go congratulate
my daughter on her success.
1005
00:35:21,687 --> 00:35:24,020
But I can't do it in front
of people that she thinks
1006
00:35:24,056 --> 00:35:26,056
that she thinks are her friend.
I take it so hard.
1007
00:35:26,091 --> 00:35:28,525
No, listen. I can give you
a good example.
1008
00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:30,427
- I'm not interested.
- No.
1009
00:35:30,462 --> 00:35:33,597
It was just another opportunity
for her to poke the bear.
1010
00:35:33,632 --> 00:35:36,533
Hannah's calling me
about the bloom award she got,
1011
00:35:36,568 --> 00:35:38,935
and right away she was gonna
use that again.
1012
00:35:38,971 --> 00:35:40,770
Even though I did think it was
overboard for dorinda
1013
00:35:40,806 --> 00:35:43,306
to tell me and sonja to get off
of our laptop
1014
00:35:43,342 --> 00:35:45,442
and whatever that morning,
it's still...
1015
00:35:45,477 --> 00:35:46,443
Right, 'cause we were working.
1016
00:35:46,478 --> 00:35:47,644
It's much different than
a daughter calling.
1017
00:35:47,679 --> 00:35:49,913
- Like, it's a different thing.
- Yeah. Why would I just--
1018
00:35:49,948 --> 00:35:50,914
you stand up
and you remove yourself.
1019
00:35:50,949 --> 00:35:52,749
- Then you leave the table.
- So to make it--
1020
00:35:52,784 --> 00:35:54,851
that's all I'm saying.
It just didn't add up.
1021
00:35:54,887 --> 00:35:56,419
- It doesn't equal.
- Then you leave the table.
1022
00:35:56,455 --> 00:35:57,254
No, 'cause you turned it
into a bigger thing
1023
00:35:57,289 --> 00:35:58,455
'cause you couldn't
help yourself.
1024
00:35:58,490 --> 00:36:00,891
- You flew off the handle.
- You know, it's kind of ironic
1025
00:36:00,926 --> 00:36:06,963
how this season ended, given how
great pals you and dorinda were.
1026
00:36:06,999 --> 00:36:09,299
It was a comment you made
at drag queen bingo
1027
00:36:09,334 --> 00:36:11,835
that really set dorinda off.
1028
00:36:11,870 --> 00:36:14,337
What was going through
your mind when that happened?
1029
00:36:14,373 --> 00:36:16,973
- Oh, whoa.
- I was kinda shocked.
1030
00:36:17,009 --> 00:36:18,642
Which luann wasn't.
1031
00:36:18,677 --> 00:36:23,480
I was bummed because I was
about to give them props
1032
00:36:23,515 --> 00:36:25,515
and tell them that, you know,
I love them
1033
00:36:25,551 --> 00:36:29,386
and appreciated them and had
a great time with them.
1034
00:36:29,421 --> 00:36:32,088
But obviously, that word
"tinsley" just set it off.
1035
00:36:32,124 --> 00:36:35,625
But we did talk--I mean, dorinda
called me the next morning
1036
00:36:35,661 --> 00:36:37,961
and was very upset
and apologized to me.
1037
00:36:37,996 --> 00:36:40,630
Why did the mere mention
of tinsley's name--
1038
00:36:40,666 --> 00:36:43,867
well, I think that it wasn't
authentic. I thought it was--
1039
00:36:43,902 --> 00:36:45,468
- what, me saying it?
- No, I just thought
1040
00:36:45,504 --> 00:36:46,970
it was like, she wasn't there.
1041
00:36:47,005 --> 00:36:49,005
I thought we did such
a great job as a group
1042
00:36:49,041 --> 00:36:51,975
after she left
halfway through the season.
1043
00:36:52,010 --> 00:36:53,710
I was surprised we were going
back to that.
1044
00:36:53,745 --> 00:36:55,845
But I wanted to give her--
I wanted to mention tinsley
1045
00:36:55,881 --> 00:36:58,448
because tinsley was
an important person to me
1046
00:36:58,483 --> 00:36:59,950
in terms of you guys, too.
1047
00:36:59,985 --> 00:37:01,451
Yeah, and that's why
I called you the next morning.
1048
00:37:01,486 --> 00:37:04,054
- Right.
- Henry from athens, georgia,
1049
00:37:04,089 --> 00:37:06,022
said, "dorinda, I'm one
of your biggest fans
1050
00:37:06,058 --> 00:37:09,626
"since your debut on the show.
"I'm begging you to hear this.
1051
00:37:09,661 --> 00:37:12,596
"it's okay to admit
that you're wrong sometimes.
1052
00:37:12,631 --> 00:37:15,165
"looking back at this season,
can you give any examples
1053
00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:17,367
of times that you think
you may have been wrong?"
1054
00:37:17,402 --> 00:37:21,938
definitely with luann, 100%.
I feel very bad about that,
1055
00:37:21,974 --> 00:37:25,041
and I feel bad about the thing
with, uh, you, leah,
1056
00:37:25,077 --> 00:37:27,444
'cause that was--that was wrong.
It ruined the finale,
1057
00:37:27,479 --> 00:37:28,712
but we definitely talked
through that.
1058
00:37:28,747 --> 00:37:31,915
You know, I-I feel bad
that ramona and I
1059
00:37:31,950 --> 00:37:33,917
couldn't come to terms
this season,
1060
00:37:33,952 --> 00:37:35,785
'cause we have
a 20-year relationship,
1061
00:37:35,821 --> 00:37:37,420
and we really do care
for each other,
1062
00:37:37,456 --> 00:37:40,056
but I didn't feel like
she had my back at all.
1063
00:37:40,092 --> 00:37:42,392
The question is how do you
reconcile it, do you think?
1064
00:37:42,427 --> 00:37:44,394
Well, I think that--I think
the way for ramona and I
1065
00:37:44,429 --> 00:37:47,063
to go forward, if we wanna
continue our friendship,
1066
00:37:47,099 --> 00:37:51,201
is to just not rehash it
and try to start
1067
00:37:51,236 --> 00:37:53,737
building our friendship again,
if it's important to you.
1068
00:37:53,772 --> 00:37:54,904
- I just think it is.
- You are important to me.
1069
00:37:54,940 --> 00:37:57,574
- I love you, dorinda.
- I think we're all in a reset.
1070
00:37:57,609 --> 00:37:58,708
I love you,
and I'll always love you.
1071
00:37:58,744 --> 00:37:59,676
I don't care what you do to me.
I'll still love you.
1072
00:37:59,711 --> 00:38:01,044
Like elyse?
You love her more than elyse.
1073
00:38:01,079 --> 00:38:03,580
And I love you, and you know,
we've known each other 20 years.
1074
00:38:03,615 --> 00:38:04,848
I don't care what you do to me,
I'll lways love you.
1075
00:38:04,883 --> 00:38:05,849
So it's important for us
to work on this.
1076
00:38:05,884 --> 00:38:06,983
You can try to kill me.
I'll still love you.
1077
00:38:07,019 --> 00:38:08,985
She's doing that thing where
she looks in your eyes,
1078
00:38:09,021 --> 00:38:10,220
and she, like...
1079
00:38:10,255 --> 00:38:12,422
I really would like to,
you know, try.
1080
00:38:12,457 --> 00:38:13,890
- I want that desperately.
- I'm not sure
1081
00:38:13,925 --> 00:38:15,925
we're gonna do it,
but I think it would be--
1082
00:38:15,961 --> 00:38:17,727
- dorinda, look at me.
- It's worth a try
1083
00:38:17,763 --> 00:38:18,862
after 20 years.
- Look at me.
1084
00:38:18,897 --> 00:38:20,697
- Can you please look at me?
- Yeah.
1085
00:38:20,732 --> 00:38:23,233
I want that, and we will do it.
1086
00:38:23,268 --> 00:38:25,769
- All right, let's fist bump.
- No, really. I mean it.
1087
00:38:25,804 --> 00:38:27,604
- No, you can't touch.
- I-I love you.
1088
00:38:27,639 --> 00:38:29,506
- Luann, let's look in each--
- you can't touch each other!
1089
00:38:29,541 --> 00:38:30,974
[ laughs ]
1090
00:38:31,009 --> 00:38:33,643
okay, well, that's a great place
to leave it, all right.
1091
00:38:33,679 --> 00:38:34,911
- Thank you, ramona.
- And you know,
1092
00:38:34,946 --> 00:38:36,479
by the grace of god,
I got through,
1093
00:38:36,515 --> 00:38:39,983
and hopefully, you know,
2021 will be a better year...
1094
00:38:40,018 --> 00:38:41,584
- For all of us.
- ...And a happy year.
1095
00:38:41,620 --> 00:38:43,186
- For all of us.
- Yes.
1096
00:38:43,221 --> 00:38:45,088
Dorinda, life goes in a circle,
and it only goes back up.
1097
00:38:45,123 --> 00:38:46,956
No, we don't want a circle.
We just wanna go up.
1098
00:38:46,992 --> 00:38:48,558
- Yeah.
- All right.
1099
00:38:48,593 --> 00:38:49,726
- Things are gonna go up.
- Let's leave it there.
1100
00:38:49,761 --> 00:38:50,760
We are gonna take a break.
1101
00:38:50,796 --> 00:38:53,496
We'll be back
with final thoughts after this.
1102
00:38:57,769 --> 00:38:59,235
E back to
"the real housewives
of new york city"
1103
00:38:59,271 --> 00:39:00,904
season 12 reunion.
1104
00:39:00,939 --> 00:39:05,175
Ladies, this season has been
another one for the books,
1105
00:39:05,210 --> 00:39:06,443
and the months
that have followed
1106
00:39:06,478 --> 00:39:11,314
have felt stranger than fiction,
so before we end this chapter,
1107
00:39:11,350 --> 00:39:13,283
I wanted to ask
each of you this.
1108
00:39:13,318 --> 00:39:16,886
We have all had a lot
of time to reflect recently.
1109
00:39:16,922 --> 00:39:20,690
Looking back,
which moment from this season
1110
00:39:20,726 --> 00:39:23,727
would you like to
socially distance yourself from,
1111
00:39:23,762 --> 00:39:28,098
and which other housewife
are you most looking forward
1112
00:39:28,133 --> 00:39:30,367
to hugging
when this is all over?
1113
00:39:30,402 --> 00:39:32,235
How about you, ramona?
1114
00:39:32,270 --> 00:39:34,204
Leah, when I said something
1115
00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:37,307
about your issues--
mental issues...
1116
00:39:37,342 --> 00:39:38,375
Thank you.
1117
00:39:38,410 --> 00:39:41,077
...Should've been to you
directly, and, dorinda,
1118
00:39:41,113 --> 00:39:43,313
I can't wait to give you
a big, big hug.
1119
00:39:43,348 --> 00:39:46,216
- That's sweet.
- That's nice.
1120
00:39:46,251 --> 00:39:49,386
Thank god we got here.
Um, I think obviously, luann,
1121
00:39:49,421 --> 00:39:52,689
you know, because I really feel
like I hurt her
1122
00:39:52,724 --> 00:39:55,392
in a vulnerable place, and I'm
really gonna work on that.
1123
00:39:55,427 --> 00:39:57,160
I think as far
as the hugging goes,
1124
00:39:57,195 --> 00:40:00,797
I think it's just really unfair
because I really look forward
1125
00:40:00,832 --> 00:40:03,199
to hugging everyone.
- Aw!
1126
00:40:03,235 --> 00:40:05,735
- I just hugging so much.
- You're a hugger.
1127
00:40:05,771 --> 00:40:07,070
- I'm a big hugger, yeah.
- Yeah.
1128
00:40:07,105 --> 00:40:09,672
- She's a lover.
- It's like food to me,
1129
00:40:09,708 --> 00:40:11,408
so I wanna hug you all.
- Lu?
1130
00:40:11,443 --> 00:40:15,278
Socially distance myself.
Let's see.
1131
00:40:15,313 --> 00:40:17,313
Probably from, you know,
that night in the berkshires.
1132
00:40:17,349 --> 00:40:22,018
It was just ugly and the way
I behaved with sonja
1133
00:40:22,053 --> 00:40:25,021
and, you know, seeing myself
like that and angry--
1134
00:40:25,056 --> 00:40:27,090
I'd like to distance myself
from that.
1135
00:40:27,125 --> 00:40:30,026
Man, I agree with dorinda.
I'd love to hug everybody.
1136
00:40:30,061 --> 00:40:31,094
But I love you all.
1137
00:40:31,129 --> 00:40:32,962
- [ laughs ]
- sonja?
1138
00:40:32,998 --> 00:40:36,332
I think I've made it
really clear this reunion
1139
00:40:36,368 --> 00:40:39,068
I wanna socially distance myself
from not having control
1140
00:40:39,104 --> 00:40:42,872
of my prescription
with my drinking.
1141
00:40:42,908 --> 00:40:45,375
And I really am very grateful
to have the show
1142
00:40:45,410 --> 00:40:48,745
to show me how I was behaving
'cause I didn't know,
1143
00:40:48,780 --> 00:40:49,979
and I am grateful to ramona.
1144
00:40:50,015 --> 00:40:51,181
We do have
a special relationship
1145
00:40:51,216 --> 00:40:55,084
where you can tell me something
and you hold my hand
1146
00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:56,920
and tell me, you know,
"you need to look into it,"
1147
00:40:56,955 --> 00:40:58,421
so thank you for that.
1148
00:40:58,457 --> 00:41:01,891
But as far as the hug, I gotta
tell you, my girl dorinda,
1149
00:41:01,927 --> 00:41:04,227
for every time I called her
and not wanting her
1150
00:41:04,262 --> 00:41:06,095
to know what was going wrong
with me
1151
00:41:06,131 --> 00:41:10,800
and what I was trying to handle,
she would share with me
1152
00:41:10,836 --> 00:41:12,702
what was going on with her,
1153
00:41:12,737 --> 00:41:15,205
and it just made me feel
I wasn't alone.
1154
00:41:15,240 --> 00:41:16,973
I owe you so many big hugs.
Thank you.
1155
00:41:17,008 --> 00:41:18,007
- Oh, thank you.
- See that?
1156
00:41:18,043 --> 00:41:20,210
- Well, I did something right.
- You're a giver.
1157
00:41:20,245 --> 00:41:21,478
- [ laughs ]
- dorinda's a giver,
1158
00:41:21,513 --> 00:41:22,278
and that does bring anger.
- You did a lot.
1159
00:41:22,314 --> 00:41:24,247
- No, that's--it's true.
- Leah?
1160
00:41:24,282 --> 00:41:28,251
Um, I think I would probably
socially distance myself
1161
00:41:28,286 --> 00:41:32,956
from the entire state
of rhode island.
1162
00:41:32,991 --> 00:41:35,792
- [ laughs ]
- yeah, and honestly,
1163
00:41:35,827 --> 00:41:40,330
surprisingly, the person
that I wanna hug most is ramona
1164
00:41:40,365 --> 00:41:41,464
because my mommy issues
1165
00:41:41,500 --> 00:41:43,233
are still alive and well,
apparently.
1166
00:41:43,268 --> 00:41:44,834
- [ laughs ]
- well, I'm gonna be more
1167
00:41:44,870 --> 00:41:47,504
of a friend to you than
a mother from now on, okay?
1168
00:41:47,539 --> 00:41:50,073
That'll probably work out
a lot better.
1169
00:41:50,108 --> 00:41:51,774
I think it will.
Actually, it will.
1170
00:41:51,810 --> 00:41:53,877
- Yeah.
- Wow. All right.
1171
00:41:53,912 --> 00:41:57,313
I actually feel like we
accomplished some stuff tonight.
1172
00:41:57,349 --> 00:41:59,115
- A lot.
- A lot.
1173
00:41:59,150 --> 00:41:59,916
Thank you, doctor--doctor.
1174
00:41:59,951 --> 00:42:03,253
Thank you
for an incredible season.
1175
00:42:03,288 --> 00:42:04,320
I look forward
to getting close enough
1176
00:42:04,356 --> 00:42:08,191
to toast with you next year,
and in the meantime,
1177
00:42:08,226 --> 00:42:10,493
stay safe, stay healthy,
1178
00:42:10,529 --> 00:42:12,262
and I can't wait to hug
all of you, for the record.
1179
00:42:12,297 --> 00:42:13,429
- We love you.
- Yay!
1180
00:42:13,465 --> 00:42:14,931
And thank you
for a great season.
1181
00:42:14,966 --> 00:42:15,832
- Thank you.
- We love you, andy.
1182
00:42:15,867 --> 00:42:19,235
Thanks, ladies. We did it.
1183
00:42:19,336 --> 00:42:23,540
........
1184
00:42:29,047 --> 00:42:30,413
Come a little closer.
1185
00:42:30,448 --> 00:42:32,282
Ramona, get in the picture,
hon.
1186
00:42:32,317 --> 00:42:37,353
I'll send it all to you.
Okay, here we go.
1187
00:42:37,389 --> 00:42:41,157
Okay, this is good. All right.
1188
00:42:41,192 --> 00:42:44,861
- That's actually cute.
- [ laughs ] that's so cool.
1189
00:42:44,896 --> 00:42:47,297
Ramona, can we go
to the speakeasy after this?
1190
00:42:47,332 --> 00:42:51,100
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