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>> Announcer: TONIGHT ON
"LATE NIGHT WITH SETH MEYERS" -
SARAH PAULSON,
STAR OF "ARCHER," ACTOR AND
COMEDIAN H. JON BENJAMIN
AN ALL-NEW "CLOSER LOOK,
FEATURING THE 8G BAND WITH
FRED ARMISEN
AND NOW SETH MEYERS.
>> Seth: GOOD EVENING.
I'M SETH MEYERS.
THIS IS "LATE NIGHT.
HOW'S EVERYBODY DOING TONIGHT?
IN THAT CASE, LET'S GET TO THE
NEWS
PRESIDENT TRUMP HELD A RALLY IN
PITTSBURGH, PENNSYLVANIA, LAST
NIGHT.
LOOK AT ALL THESE PEOPLE
TRUMP MIGHT BE GETTING FOUR MORE
YEARS, BUT I'M NOT SO SURE ABOUT
THE REST OF YOU.
DURING HIS RALLY IN PENNSYLVANIA
LAST NIGHT, PRESIDENT TRUMP
ATTACKED DEMOCRATIC GOVERNORS
FOR IMPLEMENTING PUBLIC HEALTH
MEASURES AND SAID, QUOTE, "YOU
CAN'T GIVE YOUR WIFE A KISS GOOD
NIGHT.
YOU'VE GOT TO WEAR A MASK.
THAT'S RIDICULOUS.
WHERE DID HE HEAR THAT
OH, YEAH, YEAH, OF COURSE.
PRESIDENT TRUMP TWEETED
YESTERDAY THAT HE WILL ANNOUNCE
HIS SUPREME COURT NOMINEE TO
REPLACE JUSTICE
RUTH BADER GINSBURG ON SATURDAY,
AS OPPOSED TO WHEN
MITCH McCONNELL WANTED TO DO IT,
HALFWAY THROUGH THE FUNERAL.
"I -- WE'VE WAITED AN
APPROPRIATE AMOUNT OF TIME."
PRESIDENT TRUMP SPOKE TODAY AT A
CEREMONY TO HONOR VETERANS OF
THE CUBAN BAY OF PIGS INVASION
AND IT WAS THE FIRST
PRESIDENTIAL SPEECH TO START
WITH THE WORDS, "ACCORDING TO
WIKIPEDIA.
THAT'S RIGHT, PRESIDENT TRUMP
SPOKE AT A CEREMONY TO HONOR
VETERANS OF THE FAILED BAY OF
PIGS INVASION, WHICH MEANS ONE
OF HIS AIDES HAD A REALLY LONG
MORNING.
"WE HAVE PIG SOLDIERS?
"NO, IT'S -- THAT'S JUST WHAT
IT'S CALLED.
"WHERE ARE THE PIG SOLDIERS?
"YOU KNOW WHAT
LET'S JUST -- LET'S JUST START
OVER."
"WE SHOULD -- WE SHOULD PROBABLY
LOOK INTO PIG SOLDIERS, THOUGH
JUST FOR THE FUN OF IT, I THINK.
BECAUSE WAR IS HELL.
GET A COUPLE OF PIG SOLDIERS IN
THERE, THAT MIGHT LIGHTEN UP THE
MOOD
WHAT UP?"
IN A VIRTUAL ADDRESS YESTERDAY
TO THE U.N. GENERAL ASSEMBLY,
PRESIDENT TRUMP CRITICIZED CHINA
OVER ITS ENVIRONMENTAL POLICIES.
THOUGH IT WOULD HAVE BEEN MORE
EFFECTIVE IF THE WHITE HOUSE
WASN'T CONSUMED BY A WILDFIRE
MID-SPEECH
ACCORDING TO A NEW POLL, FORMER
VICE PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN AND
PRESIDENT TRUMP ARE TIED IN
IOWA, BUT THIS IS WEIRD, FOR
SECOND
A LOT OF KANYE FANS IN IOWA.
FORMER VICE PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN
WAS REPORTEDLY LATE TO A VIRTUAL
FUNDRAISER BECAUSE HE STOPPED AT
AN ATM TO TAKE OUT CASH.
SAID THE ATM, "PLEASE, CALL ME
MIKE."
TODAY WAS NATIONAL CHECKERS DAY.
"KING ME," SAID TRUMP AT A
RALLY.
TODAY WAS BRUCE SPRINGSTEEN'S
71st BIRTHDAY.
I DON'T KNOW IF HE'S OLD ENOUGH
THAT HE SHOULD BE QUARANTINED,
BUT HE DEFINITELY SHOULDN'T BE
DOING THIS
NOT EVEN IF IT'S BACK TO BACK.
BECAUSE I KNOW YOU GUYS DO THAT
TOO.
JUST IN GENERAL, JUST RULE IT
OUT.
DORITOS HAS LAUNCHED A NEW
FLAVOR CALLED TWISTED LIME
DESPITE PROMISING BACK IN
2016 NOT TO RELEASE ANY NEW
FLAVORS IN THE LAST YEAR OF A
PRESIDENT'S TERM
THE STEAKHOUSE CHAIN SIZZLER HAS
FILED FOR BANKRUPTCY AMID THE
CORONAVIRUS PANDEMIC
"WOW, THIS IS TOUGH," SAID
EVERYONE WHO'S EVER EATEN THERE.
THAT'S A PERFECT JOKE.
THAT WAS A PERFECT JOKE FOR ALL
OF YOU, COURTESY OF ALEX BATES
AND FINALLY, BECAUSE OF THE
ONGOING CORONAVIRUS PANDEMIC,
MANY AMERICANS ARE PLANNING TO
VOTE BY MAIL FOR THE UPCOMING
ELECTION
BUT THERE ARE FIVE STATES --
TEXAS, LOUISIANA, INDIANA,
SOUTH CAROLINA AND MISSISSIPPI
THAT SAY THE PANDEMIC IS NOT AN
EXCUSE FOR ANYONE TO VOTE BY
SO WE LOOKED INTO WHAT EXCUSES
THESE STATES WILL ACCEPT IN A
NEW SEGMENT CALLED "OTHER
MAIL-IN VOTING EXCUSES."
♪
>> Seth: IN TEXAS, THEY'LL ALLOW
MAIL-IN VOTING IF YOU REMEMBER
TO REGISTER, BUT FORGOT THE
ALAMO.
ELECTION DAY -- IS THIS THE
SAME
♪
OH, MY GOD
[ LIGHT LAUGHTER ]
♪
WE USED TO HAVE LIKE A GAME SHOW
SONG THAT WE PLAYED FOR THESE.
DID THE GAME SHOW SONG -- IS THE
GAME SHOW SONG RECOVERING FROM
CORONA
♪
ELECTION DAY FALLS ON CREW CUT
DAY AT MISSION CONTROL
THIS ACTUALLY IS YOUR FIRST
RODEO, AND YOU REALLY NEED THE
PRACTICE
IN INDIANA, THEY'LL ALLOW
MAIL-IN VOTING IF YOU ARE GARY
YOU PROMISE TO SWING BY AUNT
JUDY'S AND BRING BACK A
CASSEROLE DISH
OR IF YOU'RE ON CENTRAL TIME,
BUT YOUR VOTING LOCATION IS ON
EASTERN TIME AND YOU FORGOT
DAYLIGHT SAVINGS TIME ENDED AND
DON'T KNOW WHEN YOU ARE ANYMORE.
LOUISIANA ONLY ALLOWS MAIL-IN
VOTING IF LE BON TEMPS ARE
CURRENTLY NOT ROULE'ING.
YOU LOST BOTH HANDS TO A CATFISH
WHILE HILLBILLY HANDFISHING.
OR IF YOU --
[ LAUGHTER ]
I HATE THIS SONG SO MUCH
[ LAUGHTER ]
BY THE WAY, IT MIGHT BE A
DIFFERENT SONG
BUT I'M HEARING YESTERDAY'S
SONG, BECAUSE IT'S STILL IN MY
HEAD
AND RIGHT NOW YOU'RE AT HOME
SAYING, "WHAT'S WRONG WITH THIS
NORMAL GAME SHOW SONG YOU USED
TO USE?"
OR IF YOU GOT TO STAY HOME TO
STIR YOUR MAMA'S ETOUFFEE SO IT
DON'T STICK TO THE BOTTOM OF THE
PAN.
IN MISSISSIPPI -
[ LAUGHTER ]
IN MISSISSIPPI, YOU CAN VOTE BY
MAIL IF YOU LIVE MORE THAN
100 MISSISSIPPIS FROM YOUR
POLLING LOCATION
YOU GOT A HOT HAND IN POKER ON A
RIVERBOAT CASINO
OR IF ELECTION DAY IS THE SAME
DAY AS YOU AND YOUR COUSIN'S
WEDDING.
AND FINALLY, IN SOUTH CAROLINA,
YOU CAN VOTE BY MAIL IF YOU HAVE
PERMISSION FROM HOOTIE OR AT
LEAST TWO BLOWFISH
YOU'RE A CONFEDERATE STATUE
WHO'S WORRIED YOU'LL LOSE YOUR
PLACE.
OR IF YOU'RE JUST TOO BUSY
LETTING YOUR MIND WANDER SITTING
ON THE BRANCH OF AN ANGEL OAK
TREE, SKIN DEWY THE HEAT,
LISTENING TO THE BUZZ OF THE
TAWNY MOLE CRICKETS, HEART
A'BURSTING WITH LOW COUNTRY
PRIDE.
NOW, I WANT TO STRESS, I'M GOING
CRAZY FOR TWO REASONS.
THIS SONG, AND ALSO I WISH YOU
COULD SEE THE CUE CARD RIGHT NOW
THAT HAS THE TINIEST SLIVER OF
LIGHT ON IT.
IT'S NOT IN TOTAL DARKNESS
SO WE HAVE LIGHTS.
[ LAUGHTER ]
BUT THEY JUST WANT TO CATCH JUST
THE EDGE, JUST THE TINIEST EDGE
OF MY CUE CARD WHICH IS THE
PERFECT COMPANION PIECE TO THIS
[ BLEEP ] SONG
[ LAUGHTER ]
♪
WE GOT A GREAT SHOW FOR YOU
TONIGHT.
MY FRIEND SARAH PAULSON WILL BE
HERE
HER NEW SHOW "RATCHED" IS
AVAILABLE NOW ON NETFLIX
AND HE IS THE STAR OF TWO OF THE
BIGGEST ANIMATED SHOWS ON
TELEVISION
JON BENJAMIN IS HERE
HE IS IN "BOB'S BURGERS" AS BOB
AND ARCHER IN "ARCHER.
THOSE ARE THE TITULAR ROLES.
THOSE CHARACTERS COULDN'T BE
MORE OPPOSITE AND YET, IT IS THE
SAME GUY
I CAN'T WAIT TO TALK TO HIM.
BUT BEFORE WE GET TO ALL OF
THAT, THE PRESIDENT HELD YET
ANOTHER RALLY WHERE PEOPLE WERE
PACKED CLOSE TOGETHER, DESPITE
THE CORONAVIRUS PANDEMIC AFTER
TELLING HIS SUPPORTERS THAT
VIRTUALLY NOBODY IS AFFECTED BY
A DISEASE THAT HAS KILLED AT
LEAST 200,000 AMERICANS.
FOR MORE ON THIS, IT'S TIME FOR
"A CLOSER LOOK."
♪
>> Seth: THE PRESIDENT HAS BEEN
TRAVELING THE COUNTRY HOLDING
BIG RALLIES WITH PEOPLE PACKED
CLOSELY TOGETHER, OFTEN WITHOUT
MASKS AND PUTTING AMERICANS IN
DANGER IN ORDER TO MAKE HIMSELF
FEEL BETTER.
AND REMEMBER, VIRUSES GET PASSED
ON, SO HE'S POTENTIALLY EXPOSING
PEOPLE WHO AREN'T EVEN AT HIS
RALLIES TO THE SPREAD OF
CORONAVIRUS, ALL BECAUSE THE
ADORATION OF HIS FANS SOOTHES
HIS EGO.
JUST A TIP, IF YOU'RE A CASHIER
AT THE CHICK-FIL-A CLOSEST TO
THE RALLY VENUE, YOU MIGHT
CONSIDER DRESSING LIKE THE BAD
GUYS FROM "E.T."
AND BY THE WAY, THIS ISN'T
HYPOTHETICAL
WE ALREADY KNOW HIS RALLY IN
TULSA LED TO A SURGE IN CASES
THERE.
AT THIS POINT, TRUMP RALLIES ARE
ONE THE LIST OF HIGH-RISK
ACTIVITIES, JUST LIKE DOORKNOB
LICKING, HUGGING EVERYONE ON THE
SUBWAY AND EATING SHRIMP AT THE
STRIP CLUB BUFFET.
AND I'M NOT EVEN SURE WHAT RALLY
ATTENDEES ARE GETTING OUT OF IT
FOR ALL THE RISKS THEY'RE
TAKING
I MEAN, YOU CAN'T EVEN REALLY
FOLLOW WHAT THE GUY IS SAYING.
MOST OF THE TIME HE JUST STANDS
THERE SWEATING PROFUSELY AND
COMPLAINING ABOUT THINGS HE
RECENTLY WATCHED ON TV
HIS RALLIES ARE LIKE KARAOKE
NIGHT AT THE CONCUSSION WARD
YOU COULD SAFELY GET THE SAME
EXPERIENCE FACETIMING WITH YOUR
UNCLE WHO LIVES IN BOCA AND EATS
DINNER EVERY NIGHT AT 4:30 AT
RED LOBSTER.
"YOU HAVE TO GET THERE EARLY SO
THEY DON'T RUN OUT OF THE
CHEDDAR BAY BISCUITS
WE LOVE -- WE LOVE THE CHEDDAR
BAY.
DON'T WE FOLKS?"
FOR EXAMPLE, TRUMP OFTEN TELLS
TWO KINDS OF FAKE STORIES.
STORIES ABOUT GOING HOME TO HIS
WIFE MELANIA AFTER RALLIES AND
STORIES ABOUT GENERALS AND OTHER
PEOPLE WHO COME UP TO HIM AND
CALL HIM SIR
OBVIOUSLY ALL THESE STORIES ARE
MADE UP.
EVEN TRUMP SEEMS TO HAVE TROUBLE
KEEPING TRACK OF HIS
BULL[ BLEEP ] BECAUSE YESTERDAY
AT HIS RALLY IN PENNSYLVANIA, HE
MIXED THEM UP.
HOME
AND I TELL YOU THIS, I GO HOME
ALL THE TIME
FIRST LADY, HOW'D YOU LIKE THE
CROWD?
"SIR, I DIDN'T SEE IT.
I DIDN'T SEE IT.
BUT I DIDN'T SEE IT, DONALD.
I DIDN'T SEE IT.
SOMETIMES SHE'LL CALL ME
MR. PRESIDENT BUT SHE'S ONLY
KIDDING, BELIEVE ME.
>> Seth: YOUR WIFE CALLS YOU
SIR?
ARE YOU MARRIED TO MARCIE?
AND IF SO, MARCIE, WHAT ARE YOU
DOING?
STOP PRETENDING TO BE SOMETHING
WE ALL KNOW YOU'RE NOT
WHILE I CAN ENJOY TRUMP
FORGETTING HE WAS TELLING A FAKE
MELANIA STORY AND SLIPPING INTO
A SIR STORY, I DO WISH IT WAS
THE OTHER WAY AROUND
CHANCES ARE MOST PEOPLE AT A
TRUMP RALLY THINK A WIFE SHOULD
CALL A HUSBAND SIR, BUT NONE OF
THEM WOULD NOT BE OKAY IF A
GENERAL CALLED YOU DARLING
"THIS GENERAL CAME UP TO ME.
BIG GUY, TOUGH GUY, HANDS LIKE
FRYING PANS.
AND HE TOOK ME BY THE SHOULDER
AND SAID, 'DARLING, YOU WERE
GREAT TONIGHT.
AND THEN GAVE ME THE TINIEST
KISS, TINIEST KISS ON THE LIPS
A PAIR OF BUTTERFLY WINGS.
WHY IS BLOOD COMING OUT OF
EVERYONE'S EARS?
THE TRUTH IS MELANIA DOESN'T
CALL YOU ANYTHING.
NOT SIR, NOT MR. PRESIDENT
MAYBE A "YOU, AGAIN?
I DOUBT THEY'VE SPOKEN AT ALL
DURING THE LAST FOUR YEARS,
EXCEPT FOR MAYBE THAT ONE TIME
THEY WERE LEAVING THE WHITE
HOUSE AND HE POINTED AT A
PUDDLE
DOESN'T DO ANYTHING FOR HER,
JUST POINTS AT THE PUDDLE.
DID YOUR MARRIAGE COUNSELOR
RECOMMEND FINDING THINGS YOU
BOTH HAVE IN COMMON?
"OH LOOK, WATER.
MELANIA LIKES WATER.
I'VE SEEN HER DRINK WATER.
YOU KNOW WHAT?
I'LL POINT AT IT
POINT AT IT SO SHE DOESN'T MISS
IT
YOU KNOW WHAT?
IT'S HARD TO BELIEVE, JUST
YESTERDAY, THAT WAS FROSTY THE
SNOWMAN.
TRAGIC LOSS.
TRAGIC LOSS OF FROSTY BUT IT IS
MY CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT TO
APPOINT A REPLACEMENT FOR
FROSTY
AND I'M HAPPY TO ANNOUNCE THAT
OUR NEWEST ADDITION TO BELOVED
CHRISTMAS MASCOT IS [ BLEEP ]
THE PENGUIN.
THAT WAS MY FIRST -- THAT'S THE
FIRST TIME I'M PUTTING EYES ON
[ BLEEP ] AND I FEEL THE
GRAPHICS DEPARTMENT DID A REALLY
NICE JOB
SO TRUMP SAYS THAT HIS WIFE
CALLS HIM SIR, BUT SURE,
JOE BIDEN IS THE ONE IN
COGNITIVE DECLINE.
I'VE NEVER HEARD BIDEN MAKE A
MISTAKE LIKE THAT.
THE ONE TIME HE MIXED UP HIS
WIFE AND HIS SISTER, HE
IMMEDIATELY CORRECTED HIMSELF.
>> BY THE WAY, THIS IS MY LITTLE
SISTER VALERIE AND I'M JOE'S
HUSBAND.
OH, NO
YOU SWITCHED ON ME
THIS IS MY WIFE.
THIS IS MY SISTER.
THEY SWITCHED ON ME.
>> Seth: YEAH, I MEAN, SURE.
IT WOULD BE IDEAL IF IT HADN'T
HAPPENED AT ALL.
BUT IF THAT HAD BEEN TRUMP, HE
WOULD HAVE INSISTED HE WAS
RIGHT.
"WHY ARE YOU LAUGHING?
THIS IS MY WIFE MELANIA.
"SIR, I'M THE VICE PRESIDENT."
"COME HERE, MELANIA, LET ME GIVE
YOU A KISS
OH, MELANIA IS ICY TONIGHT."
AND THE MELANIA STORY MIX UP WAS
STILL PROBABLY THE MOST COHERENT
THING HE SAID.
WEIRD DYNAMIC HAS DEVELOPED WITH
TRUMP WHERE HE ROUTINELY SAYS
SOME OF THE MOST DEPRAVED,
AUTHORITARIAN THING A PRESIDENT
HAS EVER UTTERED AND AS A
NATION, WE MOSTLY JUST HIM PASS
BY WITHOUT COMMENT
WE TREAT HIM LIKE A GUY HANDING
OUT LEAFLETS ON THE SUBWAY
I WOULDN'T BE SURPRISED IF AT
THE FIRST DEBATE, JOE BIDEN JUST
PUT IN EARBUDS AND STARTED
PLAYING "MINECRAFT" ON HIS
PHONE.
FOR EXAMPLE, ON MONDAY AT
ANOTHER -- AT ANOTHER -- EXCUSE
ME
ONE OF HIS CORONAVIRUS
COUGH-A-THONS IN OHIO, TRUMP
TOLD HIS SUPPORTERS THAT
VIRTUALLY NOBODY IS AFFECTED BY
THE CORONAVIRUS AS THE TOTAL
NUMBER OF DEATHS IN THE U.S. HIT
200,000.
ELDERLY PEOPLE WITH HEART
PROBLEMS AND OTHER PROBLEMS.
IF THEY HAVE OTHER PROBLEMS,
THAT'S WHAT IT REALLY AFFECTS,
THAT'S IT.
YOU KNOW, IN SOME STATES
THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE, NOBODY
YOUNG.
BELOW THE AGE OF 18, LIKE
NOBODY
THEY HAVE A STRONG IMMUNE
SYSTEM
WHO KNOWS?
YOU LOOK -- YOU TAKE YOUR HAT
OFF TO THE YOUNG, BECAUSE THEY
HAVE A HELL OF AN IMMUNE SYSTEM.
BUT IT AFFECTS VIRTUALLY NOBODY.
IT'S AN AMAZING THING.
>> Seth: IMAGINE STANDING THERE
AND LISTENING TO THE PRESIDENT
TELL YOU WHO DIES FROM A VIRUS
AND HAVING IT DESCRIBE YOU TO A
"T."
"IT AFFECTS OLD PEOPLE
OLD PEOPLE WITH HEART ISSUES,
MAYBE DIABETES
PEOPLE WHO GATHER, GATHER IN
LARGE GROUPS WITHOUT A MASK,
THEY'RE CERTAINLY IN THE DANGER
ZONE."
MUST BE SUCH A WEIRD DRIVE HOME.
"HEY HONEY, DO YOU THINK MY
PACEMAKER COUNTS AS A HEART
ISSUE?
BUT YEAH, MAN, IT'S AN AMAZING
THING THAT NOBODY IS REALLY
AFFECTED BY THIS DEADLY AND
HIGHLY CONTAGIOUS VIRUS.
I'M SURE ALL THOSE PEOPLE DIED
JUST TO MAKE YOU LOOK BAD.
I HEARD THEY WERE DEEP STATE,
ANTIFA TERRORISTS PAID FOR BY
GEORGE SOROS TO STOP BREATHING
THEY'RE PROBABLY NOT EVEN DEAD
THEY'RE PROBABLY ALL HANGING OUT
ON AN ANTIFA ISLAND TALKING
ABOUT HOW MUCH THEY LOVE
SOCIALISM AND FAKE NEWS.
THE PRESIDENT IS A DEEPLY SICK
MAN.
USUALLY WHEN YOU HEAR SOMEONE
SOME ONE TALK LIKE THAT, THEY'RE
BEING FITTED FOR A
HANNIBAL LECTER MASK OR HOLDING
A SIGN IN TIMES SQUARE
"CORONAVIRUS ISN'T REAL.
dE BLASIO IS AN ALIEN.
THE MOON IS FOLLOWING ME
EVERY TIME I TURN AROUND, IT'S
THERE.
COVID IS CURRENTLY THE THIRD
HIGHEST CAUSE OF DEATH IN THE
U.S.
200,000 PEOPLE HAVE DIED
MANY MORE COULD DIE IN THE
COMING MONTHS.
AND THE PRESIDENT IS OUT THERE
TELLING PEOPLE, SIX MONTHS IN,
THAT VIRTUALLY NOBODY IS
AFFECTED
JUST BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT AFFECTED
DOESN'T MEAN NOBODY'S AFFECTED
YOU'RE SAFE BECAUSE YOU AND
EVERYONE AROUND YOU GET TESTED
EVERY DAY AND YOU GET THE
RESULTS BACK INSTANTLY
MEANWHILE, REGULAR PEOPLE HAD TO
WAIT IN THEIR CARS FOR HOURS
LIKE THEY WERE LINED UP AT A
TOLLBOOTH TRYING TO LEAVE
NEW JERSEY DURING THE THIRD
QUARTER OF A JETS GAME
OR A GIANTS GAME
THEY'RE BOTH -- THEY'RE BOTH BAD
AT FOOTBALL.
I SAY THAT RISKING THE FACT THAT
THE GIANTS ARE THE TEAM ALL THE
SECURITY GUARDS LIKE
ALSO, ONE MORE THING
IT'S NOT TRUE THAT CORONAVIRUS
ONLY AFFECTS THE ELDERLY AND
PEOPLE WITH PRE-EXISTING
CONDITIONS
BUT EVEN IF IT WERE, THAT'S LIKE
HALF THE POPULATION.
IT'S LIKE IF AN AX MURDERER WAS
ON THE LOOSE AND THE COPS WERE
LIKE, "DON'T WORRY, IT ONLY
AFFECTS SEXY TEENS TAKING
SHOWERS.
AND TRUMP KNOWS BETTER
HE KNOWS BETTER.
REMEMBER, HE TOLD JOURNALIST
BOB WOODWARD IN THOSE TAPED
CONVERSATIONS THAT THE
CORONAVIRUS WAS ACTUALLY VERY
INFECTIOUS AND VERY DEADLY AND
DIDN'T JUST AFFECT THE ELDERLY
IN FACT, HE WENT OUT OF HIS WAY
TO SAY YOUNG PEOPLE COULD GET
SICK TOO
THAT'S ALWAYS TOUGHER THAN THE
TOUCH, YOU KNOW.
THE TOUCH, YOU DON'T HAVE TO
TOUCH THINGS, RIGHT?
BUT THE AIR, YOU JUST BREATHE
THE AIR AND THAT'S HOW IT'S
PASSED
IT'S ALSO MORE DEADLY THAN YOUR,
YOU KNOW -- EVEN YOUR STRENUOUS
FLUS
SO THIS IS DEADLY STUFF.
THIS THING IS A KILLER IF IT
GETS YOU
IF YOU'RE THE WRONG PERSON, YOU
DON'T HAVE A CHANCE.
>> IT'S A MONSTER.
>> RIPS YOU APART.
>> THIS IS A SCOURGE
AND --
>> IT IS THE PLAGUE.
NOW IT'S TURNING OUT IT'S NOT
JUST OLD PEOPLE, BOB, BUT JUST
TODAY AND YESTERDAY, SOME
STARTLING FACTS CAME OUT
IT'S NOT JUST OLD, OLDER -
>> YEAH, EXACTLY
>> IT'S PLENTY OF YOUNG PEOPLE
>> Seth: IT'S AMAZING HOW
DIFFERENT HE SOUNDS IN PRIVATE
WHEN HE WANTS TO IMPRESS SOMEONE
HE THINKS IS IMPORTANT
IT'S LIKE SEEING LARRY THE CABLE
GUY IN A FANCY RESTAURANT
WEARING SLEEVES AND HOLDING
FORTH ON WINE VARIETALS.
TRUMP ALMOST SOUNDS NORMAL
IT'S LIKE A LOCAL NEWS STORY
WHERE A GUY GETS HIT ON A HEAD
WITH A PAINT CAN AND BECOMES A
GENIUS, EXCEPT TRUMP PROBABLY
GOT HIT IN THE HEAD WITH A GOLF
BALL AFTER SHANKING IT IN THE
WOODS AND RICOCHETING IT OFF A
TREE
"CORONAVIRUS IS A HOAX
ON THE OTHER HAND, I DID READ A
DOUBLE BLIND PEER-REVIEWED
CLINICAL STUDY THAT SUGGESTS
AEROSOLS ARE A MORE CONCERNING
VECTOR THAN FOMITES.
DID I SAY FOMITES?
I MEANT --
>> Seth: REMEMBER?
WE FORGET THAT THAT ALSO
HAPPENED
HEARING TRUMP IN THE WOODWARD
TAPES IS LIKE THE ORIGINAL
HOMER SIMPSON.
IT'S A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT
PERSON
THAT'S HOMER
I THOUGHT THAT WAS
WALTER MATTHAU
SAL GENTILE WRITES SOME
TRENCHANT POLITICAL COMMENTARY,
BUT HE ALSO GOT THAT OLD HOMER
JOKE IN.
SO WE KNOW THAT TRUMP IS AT
LEAST CAPABLE OF UNDERSTANDING
THE DEADLY REALITY OF THE VIRUS,
WHICH MAKES HIS LIES ABOUT IT
ALL THE MORE PSYCHOTIC AND
CRIMINALLY NEGLIGENT
HE KNOWS PEOPLE WILL DIE AND
HE'S TELLING THEM NOT TO WORRY
ANYWAY
HE'S PRESIDENT BIG TOBACCO
ANYONE ELSE DOING THAT WOULD GET
SUED OR GO TO JAIL
IF AN AUTO MANUFACTURER TOLD
PEOPLE THEIR CAR WAS PERFECTLY
SAFE EVEN THOUGH THEY KNEW THERE
WERE NO AIR BAGS AND THE BRAKES
WERE 50/50, THEY'D GET IN
TROUBLE.
OF COURSE, IF THEY JUST CALLED
IT MAGARATI, 40% OF THE COUNTRY
WOULD RUSH TO BUY IT SO THEY
COULD OWN THE LIBS BY DRIVING
OFF FREEDOM CLIFF.
THE SIMPLE FACT IS THE SAME
PEOPLE WHO SPENT ANY AMOUNT OF
TIME WITH HIM KNOW TRUMP IS A
DEEPLY DISTURBED INDIVIDUAL WITH
NO REGARD FOR HUMAN LIFE,
DOESN'T CARE ABOUT ANYONE OR
ANYTHING UNLESS IT CAN ENRICH OR
EMPOWER HIM.
WE KEEP HEARING THAT SAME STORY
OVER AND OVER FROM PEOPLE WHO
WORKED FOR HIM, QUIT, CALLED HIM
UNFIT FOR OFFICE AFTER LEAVING
EVERY THREE DAYS, THERE'S
ANOTHER BOOK BY A FORMER
ADMINISTRATION OFFICIAL.
AND NOT ONE OF THEM HAS BEEN
TITLED "HE WAS VERY NICE AND
THAT WAS FINE.
I MEAN, THINK ABOUT HOW MANY
PEOPLE HAVE LEFT TRUMP'S INNER
CIRCLE OR HIS ADMINISTRATION AND
BASICALLY SAID HE'S A SOCIOPATH
WHO'S INCAPABLE OF DOING THE
JOB.
IT CAN'T BE A COINCIDENCE THAT
ALL THESE PEOPLE WORKED WITH HIM
AND NOW HATE HIS GUTS.
LIKE IF YOU WERE MANAGER AT BEST
BUY AND 50 -- 50 OF YOUR
EMPLOYEES QUIT AND THEY ALL SAID
IT'S BECAUSE THE NEW GUY BRAD
KEPT PUTTING PICTURES OF HIS
BUTTHOLE UP ON THE 4K ULTRA HD
TVs, YOUR REACTION WOULDN'T BE
LIKE, "WELL, I GUESS THEY'RE
LEAVING BECAUSE THEY'RE WALMART
FANS."
TAKE FOR EXAMPLE, OLIVIA TROYE,
FORMER ADVISOR TO VICE PRESIDENT
MIKE PENCE WHO WORKED ON THE
CORONAVIRUS TASK FORCE
IN A RECENT AD FOR BIDEN, TROYE
EXPLAINED THAT SHE QUIT BECAUSE
TRUMP DIDN'T CARE IF PEOPLE DIED
FROM THE VIRUS, INCLUDING --
INCLUDING HIS OWN SUPPORTERS
>> THE TRUTH IS, HE DOESN'T
ACTUALLY CARE ABOUT ANYONE ELSE
BUT HIMSELF.
HE MADE A STATEMENT ONCE THAT
WAS VERY STRIKING.
I NEVER FORGOT IT BECAUSE IT
PRETTY MUCH DEFINED WHO HE WAS
WHEN WE WERE IN A TASK FORCE
MEETING, THE PRESIDENT SAID,
"MAYBE THIS COVID THING IS A
GOOD THING
I DON'T LIKE SHAKING HANDS WITH
PEOPLE
I DON'T HAVE TO SHAKE HANDS WITH
THESE DISGUSTING PEOPLE.
THOSE DISGUSTING PEOPLE ARE THE
SAME PEOPLE THAT HE CLAIMS TO
CARE ABOUT
THESE ARE THE PEOPLE STILL GOING
TO HIS RALLIES TODAY WHO HAVE
COMPLETE FAITH IN WHO HE IS.
>> Seth: I'M SURPRISED TRUMP
EVER SHOOK HANDS WITH HIS
SUPPORTERS
HE'S A WEALTHY GERMOPHOBE WHO
LIVED IN A GOLDEN PENTHOUSE AND
TRAVELED EVERYWHERE BY LIMO.
OF COURSE HE WAS DISGUSTED BY
INTERACTING WITH NORMAL,
NON-RICH PEOPLE.
EVEN BEFORE THE PANDEMIC, HE
PROBABLY FINISHED HIS RALLIES
AND THEN SENT MIKE PENCE OUT TO
SHAKE HANDS IN A TRUMP DISGUISE.
"I REALLY DON'T WANT TO DO THIS,
SIR.
"THEN MAYBE YOU SHOULDN'T HAVE
BEEN SO STINGY WITH YOUR KISSES.
MAYBE YOU'RE STARTING TO REGRET
THAT CHOICE NOW.
REPUBLICANS ARE IN LOCKSTEP
BEHIND THIS GUY ALL SO THEY CAN
WIN AND MAINTAIN POWER, THAT'S
THE CORRUPT BARGAIN THEY'VE
MADE
BACK AN UNREPENTANT CRIMINAL
SOCIOPATH WHO'S OVERSEEN THE
PREVENTABLE DEATH OF HUNDREDS OF
THOUSANDS OF AMERICANS AND IN
RETURN, THEY GET A CONSERVATIVE
SUPER MAJORITY ON THE SUPREME
COURT THAT COULD DESTROY
OBAMACARE, RIP UP ROE V WADE AND
INVALIDATE THE RESULTS OF THE
NOVEMBER ELECTION IF TRUMP
LOSES, THAT'S THEIR PLAN
THEY DO NOT CARE ABOUT THE
PANDEMIC
INSIDE THE TRUMP WHITE HOUSE AND
THE REPUBLICAN PARTY, THE COVID
DEATH TOLL -
>> AFFECTS VIRTUALLY NOBODY.
>> Seth: THIS HAS BEEN "A CLOSER
LOOK."
♪
WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK WITH OUR
FRIEND SARAH PAULSON, EVERYONE
♪
>> Seth: WE'VE BEEN SO LUCKY TO
HAVE FRED ARMISEN LEADING THE
8G BAND FROM HOME ALL WEEK
THANK YOU SO MUCH, FRED.
OUR FIRST GUEST TONIGHT IS AN
EMMY AND GOLDEN GLOBE
AWARD-WINNING ACTRESS.
YOU KNOW HER FROM HER WORK IN
"AMERICAN CRIME STORY," "THE
PEOPLE VERSUS O.J. SIMPSON,"
"OCEAN'S 8," AND "12 YEARS A
SLAVE.
SHE'S THE STAR AND EXECUTIVE
PRODUCER OF "RATCHED" WHICH IS
CURRENTLY STREAMING ON NETFLIX,
LET'S TAKE A LOOK.
TREATMENTS HAVE HELPED YOU
>> I BELIEVE HE'S THE ONLY
PERSON WHO CAN HELP ME
>> AS HEAD NURSE, I'M ALLOWING
BOTH OF THEM TO GO
>> I SHOULD HAVE NEVER LET YOU
INTO THIS HOSPITAL
>> I KNOW THE KIND OF PRICE
THAT'S ON YOUR HEAD, DOCTOR.
AND I'M LETTING YOU WALK RIGHT
OUT THE DOOR
SO I'D SAY LETTING ME INTO THIS
HOSPITAL WAS THE BEST DECISION
YOU EVER MADE.
>> Seth: PLEASE WELCOME BACK TO
THE SHOW OUR FRIEND,
SARAH PAULSON!
HOW ARE YOU, SARAH
>> I'M WELL, THANK YOU
HOW ARE YOU?
>> Seth: I AM WELL TOO
IT'S SO LOVELY TO SEE YOU, AND
CONGRATULATIONS ON THE SHOW.
BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY,
CONGRATULATIONS.
I HEARD YOU JUST GOT A DOG
>> I DID GET A DOG
BUT I ONLY GOT A DOG, BECAUSE I
CAN'T HAVE YOUR DOG.
[ LAUGHTER ]
AND THAT'S REALLY THE TRUTH.
I HAVE A VIDEO OF YOUR DOG THAT
I TOOK ONCE WHEN I RAN INTO YOUR
DOG, AND IT'S SOMETHING I LOOK
AT
I MIGHT LOOK AT IT LIKE ONCE A
WEEK, AT LEAST
>> Seth: IT WAS A VERY BIG DEAL,
AND IT'S VERY NICE TO HEAR THAT,
BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW IF YOU KNOW
THIS VERY TRUE THING
MY FRIEND ANDY SAMBERG THINKS MY
DOG IS AN UGLY RAT MONSTER
AND SO IT'S VERY NICE TO HAVE
SOMEONE ON THE SHOW WHO IS SORT
OF SUPPORTING AND SINGING THE
PRAISES OF FRISBEE
>> FRISBEE IS THE GREATEST DOG
EVER AND BEAUTIFUL BEYOND
MEASURE, LIKE A FAWN AND A BABY
DEER IN THE WOODS.
SO ANDY SAMBERG ACTUALLY DOESN'T
KNOW WHAT HE'S TALKING ABOUT
>> Seth: YEAH.
AND I THINK ANYBODY WATCHING THE
SHOW WOULD REALIZE THAT YOU ARE
A PERSON OF TASTE, WHEREAS HE'S
A GUTTER DWELLER
>> I'M GOING TO VOTE YES ON THAT
AS WELL.
I DON'T KNOW THE GUY, BUT I'M
GOING TO SAY YES
>> Seth: SO YOU -- YOU'RE AN
EXECUTIVE PRODUCER OF THIS SHOW
AS WELL.
AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT
MEANS, IS YOU HAVE TO WATCH IT
AS YOU ARE MAKING IT
AND I KNOW FROM OUR HISTORY THAT
YOU DO NOT PARTICULARLY LIKE
WATCHING YOURSELF ON FILM, SO
HOW WAS THAT TRANSITION INTO
WATCHING DAILIES
>> I BECAME LIKE A -- IT WAS
LIKE AT LUNCH EVERY DAY I WAS
LIKE IN THE TRAILER, WITH LIKE
POPCORN, JUST LIKE, "ALL RIGHT,
ALL RIGHT, ALL RIGHT, THAT WAS
GOOD, THAT WAS BAD, THAT WASN'T
GOOD."
EMAILING, YOU KNOW, THE PRODUCER
GOING, YOU KNOW, "PLEASE DON'T
USE TAKE 6, CAN YOU PUSH IN ON
7?
I MEAN, I BECAME LIKE AN
ABSOLUTE NUT
NUT.
>> Seth: BUT THIS IS SORT OF --
THIS ARCED
BECAUSE, IN THE BEGINNING OF
YOUR CAREER, YOU WOULD WATCH
YOURSELF
BUT THEN I GUESS "PEOPLE VERSUS
O.J. SIMPSON" IS THE ONE THAT
YOU FAMOUSLY HAVE NOT WATCHED,
CORRECT?
>> YEAH, I THINK IN THE
BEGINNING I WAS SO EXCITED THAT
PEOPLE WERE ACTUALLY LETTING ME
DO IT, THAT I WAS LIKE, "LOOK!
YOU KNOW, I WOULD JUST -- IT WAS
REALLY KIND OF CRAZY TO ME
NOT THAT IT ISN'T ANYMORE, I'M
NOT SAYING IT'S LIKE OLD HAT OR
ANYTHING, SETH
I'M JUST SAYING -- IT'S JUST,
YOU KNOW, THE O.J. SIMPSON
THING, AND THIS IS GOING TO BE
REALLY EXCEEDINGLY ACTRESSY
THING TO SAY, BUT, YOU KNOW, I
HAD A VERY PROFOUND EXPERIENCE
MAKING IT WHERE I ALMOST DIDN'T
KNOW WHERE I STOPPED AND MARCIA
BEGAN.
AND THIS HAPPENED TO VERY
SERIOUS ACTORS
I'M SURE YOU'VE TALKED TO A LOT
OF THEM.
AND SO I DIDN'T WANT TO SEE IT,
BECAUSE I THOUGHT THIS WAS A
PROFOUNDLY SPECIAL THING
AND THEN A LOT OF PEOPLE SEEMED
TO THINK IT WAS GOOD, AND THEN I
WAS LIKE, "WELL, NOW I'M REALLY
NOT GOING TO WATCH IT FOR FEAR
THAT I WILL THINK THEY'RE ALL
IDIOTS AND WHAT IF I HATED IT?
IT JUST FELT TOO PRECIOUS TO ME.
>> Seth: I THINK THAT'S THE
RIGHT WAY TO PLAY IT, GENUINELY.
ESPECIALLY, BECAUSE EVERYONE HAS
SAID, MYSELF INCLUDED, IT'S SO
PERFECT.
LIKE, AS A PERFORMER, YOU WOULD
JUST -- EVEN IF YOU FOUND ONE OR
TWO IMPERFECTIONS, IT WOULD THEN
LESSEN YOUR VALUE OF IT.
>> BELIEVE ME, I WOULD FIND
MANY
MARCIA WAS LEFT-HANDED, SHE HAD
BEEN A DANCER, SO SHE WALKED IN
A PARTICULAR WAY
AND I THOUGHT, THEY'RE GOING TO
USE A TAKE -- THAT WAS BACK
BEFORE I WAS WATCHING DAILIES,
WHERE I PROBABLY PICKED UP
SOMETHING WITH MY RIGHT HAND,
AND NOBODY WAS PAYING ATTENTION
TO THAT THE WAY I WAS.
SO I THOUGHT, "THIS IS GOING TO
BE A DISASTER FOR ME."
BUT, STERLING K. BROWN, YOU'VE
GOT TO SAY THE "K.", EVERY TIME
I SEE HIM, HE'S LIKE, "HAVE YOU
REALLY NOT YET?"
AND I'M LIKE, "NO.
AND HE'S LIKE, "DO YOU THINK
YOU'RE EVER, I MEAN EVER
AND I WAS LIKE, "IT'S BEEN LIKE
FIVE YEARS NOW
NOW I REALLY DON'T THINK I'M
GOING TO DO IT."
AND HE'S LIKE, "I THINK YOU
REALLY SHOULD.
BUT I DON'T THINK I'M GOING TO
>> Seth: WELL, LET'S SEE
LET'S SEE HOW LONG IT TAKES FOR
TV PRODUCTION TO START UP AGAIN,
BECAUSE YOU MIGHT HAVE TO GO
BACK AND WATCH EVERYTHING THAT
WAS EVER MADE BEFORE
[ LIGHT LAUGHTER ]
>> OKAY, OKAY, FINE.
>> Seth: SO THIS IS SORT OF A
DIFFERENT CHALLENGE WHERE YOU'RE
TAKING ON A FICTIONAL CHARACTER,
NURSE RATCHED, THAT WE KNOW FROM
"CUCKOO'S NEST," BUT ONE THAT WE
HAVE SEEN, AND WE FEEL LIKE WE
KNOW FROM THE FILM
HOW DID YOU -- PLAYING A
CHARACTER IN PREQUEL, THAT HAS
BEEN OBVIOUSLY PLAYED BEFORE, TO
GREAT ACCLAIM -- HOW DID YOU
APPROACH THAT?
>> WELL I MEAN, SHE WON AN
ACADEMY AWARD FOR THAT
PERFORMANCE.
SO IT REALLY BEGS THE QUESTION
ABOUT, YOU KNOW, HOW SANE AM I
THAT I WOULD THINK THAT WOULD BE
A GOOD IDEA TO MAYBE SEE IF
THERE WAS ANYTHING ELSE I COULD
PARSE THAT SHE DIDN'T, YOU KNOW,
BRING TO THE TABLE
BUT I JUST, YOU KNOW, I WATCHED
THE PERFORMANCE, AND I TRIED AS
MUCH AS I COULD TO STEAL
EVERYTHING I COULD FROM
LOUISE FLETCHER AND JUST SORT OF
PRETEND IT HAD BEEN MY
INVENTION.
I THINK THAT'S USUALLY THE BEST
WAY TO DO IT IF YOU'RE GOING TO
BE CREATING SOME BACKSTORY
AND THE GOOD NEWS IS WE INVENTED
THE WHOLE THING, SO WE COULD
KIND OF SAY THAT ANYTHING GOES
'CAUSE THERE WAS NOTHING IN THE
BOOK NOR IN THE MOVIE, ABOUT HER
LIFE OUTSIDE THAT HOSPITAL, SO
WE WERE FREE TO DO ANYTHING WE
WANTED, AND BOY DID WE TAKE
LIBERTY WITH THAT.
>> Seth: ALSO, YEARS FROM NOW,
IF SOMEBODY DECIDES TO WATCH IT
IN SORT OF NARRATIVE ORDER AND
START WITH THE PREQUEL, IT WILL
LOOK LIKE LOUISE STOLE FROM YOU.
>> YOU KNOW, I DID HAVE THIS
THOUGHT.
>> Seth: YOU'RE ALWAYS SO MANY
STEPS AHEAD.
>> IT'S PART OF MY MASTER PLAN,
THAT YOU KNOW -- YOUR
DONALD TRUMP IMPRESSION, CAN I
JUST STATE, FOR THE RECORD
>> Seth: YES
>> I THINK IT BESTS
ALEC BALDWIN
I REALLY DO.
I MEAN, I KNOW THIS IS
SACRILEGIOUS
I KNOW THIS IS "NBC.
I KNOW WE ALL LOVE -- I MEAN, I
LOVE ALEC.
I THINK HE'S A -- YOU HAVE NO
ACCOUTERMENT
I LIKE TO SAY ACCOUTERMENT
>> Seth: YEAH.
>> YOU'RE NOT HAVING ANY HELP.
IT'S A VERY SPECIAL, VERY
SPECIAL IMPRESSION
>> Seth: I DON'T LIKE THE MAN,
BUT HE DOES SPEAK THROUGH ME
>> HE REALLY DOES.
THERE'S LIKE A WEIRD -- TALK
ABOUT NOT KNOWING WHERE YOU
BEGIN AND SOMEONE ELSE -
WHATEVER IT IS
BUT YEAH
>> Seth: LIKE WHEN I COME HOME
AT NIGHT, SOME NIGHTS ALEXI'S
LIKE, "HEY, YOU'VE GOT TO LEAVE
DONALD TRUMP AT THE DOOR."
>> YOU'VE GOT TO LEAVE
DONALD TRUMP IN THE WORKPLACE.
[ LIGHT LAUGHTER ]
>> Seth: HEY, WHEN WE COME -
WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK WITH MORE
FROM SARAH PAULSON RIGHT AFTER
THIS
M♪
>> Seth: WELCOME BACK.
WE'RE TALKING TO SARAH PAULSON
HER NEW SHOW "RATCHED" IS
AVAILABLE NOW ON "NETFLIX.
AND THIS IS A RYAN MURPHY SHOW
AND YOU'VE BEEN IN THE
RYAN MURPHY WORLD FOR A WHILE
NOW.
IT MUST BE NICE.
THERE MUST BE A LEVEL OF COMFORT
THERE.
>> I JUST CAN'T SEEM TO QUIT
HIM.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE PROBLEM
IS
HE JUST -- I DON'T KNOW.
I SORT OF FEEL LIKE, WHY WOULD I
WANT TO LEAVE A PLACE WHERE I
FEEL SO COMPLETELY SEEN?
AND MOST SIGNIFICANTLY, HE JUST
KEEPS THROWING ME THESE
WONDERFUL, JUICY, MEATY PARTS TO
PLAY
AND, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE ACTUALLY
WATCH THEM
YOU KNOW, IT'S ALL WELL AND GOOD
TO MAKE YOUR THING THAT NOBODY'S
GOING TO SEE
MIGHT AS WELL WORK WITH THE MAN
THAT PEOPLE ARE VERY INTERESTED
IN WATCHING WHAT HE PRODUCES
SO, IT'S GOOD.
>> Seth: HE DOES THROW
INCREDIBLY JUICY ROLES YOUR WAY.
BUT IS IT TRUE THAT YOU DID HAVE
TO SORT OF GIVE HIM A LITTLE
ELBOW HERE TO REMIND HIM THAT
THIS ONE IS LINED UP VERY WELL
WITH YOUR TALENTS?
>> I DON'T -- I DON'T KNOW ABOUT
THAT LAST HALF OF WHAT YOU SAID.
BUT I DID FEEL A LITTLE WEIRD,
BECAUSE MY AGENT CALLED AND WAS
LIKE, "HAS RYAN TALKED TO YOU
ABOUT THIS 'RATCHED' SHOW HE
HAS?
AND I THOUGHT, "WELL THAT'S
FUNNY, BECAUSE NO.
HE ACTUALLY HASN'T."
AND I CALLED HIM UP AND HE WAS
LIKE, "WELL, LADY, I JUST -- YOU
KNOW, I DIDN'T KNOW IF YOU'D
WANT TO DO IT.
I WAS LIKE, "WHY WOULD I NOT
WANT TO DO IT?
AND HE'S LIKE, "WELL JUST READ
IT."
AND I WAS LIKE, "LOOK, IF YOU
WANT KATE WINSLET, GO GET HER,
I'M SURE SHE'LL DO IT.
BUT HE'S LIKE, "NO, NO."
IT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, ON
"AMERICAN HORROR STORY" I PLAYED
A THOUSAND CHARACTERS.
THAT'S AN EXAGGERATION, BUT YOU
KNOW WHAT I MEAN
>> Seth: YES
>> OVER THE COURSE OF SEVEN
YEARS -- AND I THINK HE FELT
LIKE, AND HE'S NOT WRONG, EVERY
YEAR I GOT TO TRY SOMETHING
DIFFERENT.
AND I BECAME ACCUSTOMED TO SORT
OF SHEDDING IT
I'M BEING SO ACTRESSY, IT'S
CREEPY
BUT, LIKE, SHEDDING THE SKIN OF
THE CHARACTER, THEN TAKING ON A
NEW ROLE EACH YEAR
AND SO HE WAS LIKE, "THIS IS A
SERIALIZED THING."
AND I WAS LIKE, "RIGHT, BUT
THERE'S A BLUEPRINT, THERE'S A
CHARACTER THAT EXISTS PRIOR,
THAT I CAN, AS I SAID, STEAL
FROM, THEN TRY TO MAKE IT SEEM
LIKE I KNOW WHAT I'M DOING."
AND THEN, HE LET ME HAVE IT, BUT
I LIKE HOW PUBLICLY HE'S
SPEAKING THIS NARRATIVE THAT
LIKE IT WAS ALWAYS MINE.
IT WASN'T.
IT WASN'T.
[ LAUGHTER ]
>> Seth: THAT'S GOOD -- THIS
IS -- I FEEL LIKE, YOU KNOW,
LAST 10, 20 YEARS, RIGHT, WE'VE
SEEN THESE ANTI-HERO SHOWS THAT
LOOK LIKE VERY JUICY TO PLAY
BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, ACTORS -- AND
I SAY ACTORS, BECAUSE IT'S
ALMOST ENTIRELY MALE
DOMINATED -- GET TO PLAY THESE
BAD PEOPLE THAT AN AUDIENCE ENDS
UP ROOTING FOR, WHICH IS WHAT
HAPPENS WITH THIS SHOW
THAT MUST BE SO MUCH FUN TO TAKE
ON, KNOWING THAT YOU'RE GOING TO
START WITH SORT OF A DEFICIT OF
AN AUDIENCE KNOWING THAT YOU'RE
NOT THE PERSON THEY SHOULD BE
ROOTING FOR AND CHANGING THEIR
MINDS.
>> YEAH, I MEAN, IT'S MASTER
MANIPULATION, AND I AM DOWN WITH
THAT
[ LAUGHTER ]
IT'S JUST LIKE -- I THINK IT'S
REALLY FUN
I MEAN, EVERYBODY TALKS ABOUT
HOW IT'S FUN TO BE BAD
AND I DO REALLY THINK PLAYING
WITH AN AUDIENCE -- AND I DON'T
MEAN, YOU KNOW, TOTALLY IN A
TOYING WAY, BUT AS YOU SAID, WE
DO KNOW THAT THERE'S A VESTED
INTEREST THAT SOME AUDIENCE
MEMBERS COME TO THE TABLE WITH,
IN TERMS OF LOVING TO HATE THIS
CHARACTER.
SO IT'S KIND OF INTERESTING TO
REVERSE ENGINEER THAT AND SEE IF
WE CAN'T GET THEM TO HAVE A
LITTLE BIT MORE UNDERSTANDING,
AND TO WHILE THEY'RE WATCHING
HAVE A MORE VISCERAL EXPERIENCE
WHERE THEY'RE VACILLATING.
THAT'S ALLITERATION, ALMOST.
SO THAT THEY CAN ALMOST FEEL
KIND OF -- THAT THING LIKE
THEY'RE HAVING AN IMMEDIATE
EXPERIENCE WHILE WATCHING IT, SO
THAT THEY FEEL THAT THEY'RE
HAVING SOME CRAZY RIDE
WHICH I THINK --
>> Seth: ONE OF THE THINGS YOU
MENTIONED ABOUT THIS SHOW, AND
YOU KNOW, A LOT OF RYAN MURPHY
SHOWS, BUT THIS SHOW IN
PARTICULAR, IS A LOT OF PEOPLE
ARE WATCHING IT.
IT'S INCREDIBLY POPULAR.
AND WE -- YOU AND I ARE BOTH ON
SOCIAL MEDIA, BUT I'VE NEVER
RISKED DIPPING MY TOE INTO
INSTAGRAM LIVE, WHICH YOU HAVE
DONE
HOW ARE YOU FINDING IT
>> THIS GUY'S DONE IT.
LET ME TELL YOU SOMETHING.
IT'S BOTH EXCITING AND TOTALLY
NERVE-RACKING.
BECAUSE, I'VE BEEN ACTUALLY
TAKING REQUESTS, WHICH EVERY
TIME YOU DO IT, YOU JUST LIKE,
HOPE TO CHRIST IT'S NOT A PERSON
WHO'S JUST NOT REALLY A FAN,
WHO'S SORT OF TRICKING YOU
THAT'S MY BIG NIGHTMARE, IS LIKE
THEY GET THERE AND THEY'RE LIKE,
"YOU'RE THE WORST ACTRESS I'VE
EVER SEEN!
I'VE BEEN WAITING TO GET YOU FOR
DECADES!
AND I'LL BE LIKE -
"I DON'T KNOW HOW TO TURN THIS
THING OFF.
SO IT'S LIKE TOTALLY RISKY
AND AT THE SAME TIME, I FEEL
LIKE IN THIS MOMENT WHERE, YOU
KNOW, THE CORONAVIRUS HAS US ALL
BY THE THROAT, IN A WAY, I FEEL
LIKE IT MAKES THE WORLD FEEL
VERY SMALL, AND, YOU KNOW,
SOMETHING'S REALLY HAPPENING
GLOBALLY
AND TO BE ABLE TO CONNECT WITH
PEOPLE ACROSS THE WORLD AND JUST
ACTUALLY EXPRESS MY GRATITUDE
FOR, YOU KNOW, GIVING ME SOME OF
THEIR TIME AND THEIR HOURS AND
THEIR AFFECTION, IS, YOU KNOW, A
VERY NICE THING THAT I CAN
REALLY GET BEHIND.
BUT IT'S DICEY
I'M ALWAYS LIKE --
>> Seth: DICEY, BUT IT A NICE
REMINDER THAT THERE IS GOOD --
LIKE SOCIAL MEDIA AS IT WAS
ORIGINALLY DESIGNED HAD THIS
GOODNESS IN IT OF CONNECTING
WITH PEOPLE, AND IT'S NICE TO
WATCH YOU DO THAT.
>> DID YOU WATCH THE SOCIAL
DILEMMA, THOUGH" 'CAUSE, OOF
>> Seth: YEAH.
NOT A GOOD TIME TO BE HAVING A
PHONE.
>> NOT A GREAT TIME TO BE --
JUST LIKE, UGH
>> Seth: THIS IS WHY I ONLY TALK
TO PEOPLE ON ZOOM IN A TV
STUDIO
>> YEAH, GREAT
AND I THINK THAT -
>> Seth: THIS IS MY SCREEN TIME
RIGHT NOW.
>> EXACTLY
>> Seth: HEY, THANKS SO MUCH FOR
BEING HERE
IT'S ALWAYS SO GOOD TO SEE YOU
THE ENTIRE FIRST SEASON OF
"RATCHED" IS NOW AVAILABLE ON
"NETFLIX."
WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK WITH
JON BENJAMIN
♪
>> Seth: OUR NEXT GUEST IS AN
EMMY NOMINATED ACTOR AND
COMEDIAN YOU KNOW FROM SHOWS
LIKE "BOB'S BURGERS" AND
"ARCHER.
THE 11th SEASON OF "ARCHER" AIRS
WEDNESDAYS ON FXX AND STREAMS
THE NEXT DAY VIA FX ON HULU,
LET'S TAKE A LOOK.
>> HOW'D DO YOU GET HERE BEFORE
US
>> GOD DAMMIT CYRIL.
I JUST TOLD YOU, I'M THE WORLD'S
GREATEST SPY
>> IT IS PRETTY IMPRESSIVE YOU
SHUT OFF ALL THE COUNTERMEASURES
WITHOUT OUR INTEL SO YOU COULD
ACCESS THE VAULT
[ ALARM
>> UH, DO WHAT, NOW?
>> Seth: PLEASE WELCOME TO THE
SHOW, JON BENJAMIN
THANKS FOR BEING HERE, JON
>> THANKS FOR HAVING ME, HOW ARE
YOU?
>> Seth: I'M DOING VERY WELL
CONGRATULATIONS, 11 SEASONS ON
TWO DIFFERENT SHOWS.
THAT IS QUITE THE
ACCOMPLISHMENT
>> I KNOW, YOU DIDN'T
CONGRATULATE ME ON ANY OTHER
SEASON
[ LAUGHTER ]
>> Seth: JUST THE 11th, THAT'S
THE ONLY ONE THAT I'M IMPRESSED
WITH
>> YEAH, YOU ONLY --
YOU'RE STARTING REALLY LATE TO
CONGRATULATE
11 YEARS
>> Seth: I WAS THERE, I WAS WITH
YOU FOR ALL SIX OF "DR. KATZ."
>> YOU DID
I GOT ALL YOUR NOTES EVERY YEAR.
YOU WERE LIKE ONE OF THE -- I
THINK ONE OF THE LIKE FIRST 150
PEOPLE TO WATCH THAT SHOW.
>> Seth: VERY HAPPY TO BE IN
THAT ELITE GROUP
I WANT TO ASK WHERE YOU -- YOU
HAD TO RECORD SOME OF THIS
SEASON AFTER THE PANDEMIC
STRUCK
HOW WAS RECORDING FROM HOME?
>> UM, IT WAS LIKE -- I'M SORRY
I'M DOING THIS, CAUSE I HAVE
PROGRESSIVE LENSES, SO I FEEL
LIKE I'M GOING TO BE LEANING
THIS WAY
>> Seth: IT DOES SEEM LIKE
YOU'RE JUDGING ME, THE WAY
YOU'RE HOLDING YOUR CHIN
>> DO YOU THINK THAT'S WHAT
EVERYBODY THINKS
AND IT'S JUST BEEN MY GLASSES,
YES, RIGHT
[ LAUGHTER ]
NOT GOOD, NOT GOOD, SETH
IT WAS -- IT WAS LIKE A LITTLE
CHALLENGING, BECAUSE -- WELL,
ACTUALLY, "ARCHER'S" NOT THAT
DIFFERENT CAUSE WE RECORD
INDIVIDUALLY ANYWAY.
SO ESSENTIALLY, THE SHOW SENT ME
A MICROPHONE
>> Seth: THAT'S GREAT.
>> TO MY HOUSE
>> Seth: THAT'S THE HIGH-TECH
SOLUTION
>> THAT'S HOW IT WORKS
I DON'T WANT TO GET INTO THE
TECHNICAL ASPECTS OF THE SHOW,
BUT IT BASICALLY FULLY REVOLVES
AROUND ME AND A MICROPHONE
SO TO BE ALONE DOING THAT AT
HOME WAS NOT LIKE THE WORST
THING IN THE WORLD
SO FROM MY PART, IT DIDN'T
CHANGE
I THINK FOR THE SHOW AS A WHOLE,
IT CHANGED A LOT
'CAUSE THEY HAD TO, YOU KNOW,
COMPLETELY SWITCH UP HOW THEY
PRODUCED IT.
LIKE THE ANIMATORS WERE AT HOME.
EVERYBODY'S WORKING REMOTELY
SO MY PART WAS NOT TOO BAD
>> Seth: YOU -- I DO WANT TO ASK
AT THIS POINT, BEING ON THESE
ICONIC SHOWS, ARE PEOPLE, AS
TIME PASSES, MORE LIKELY TO
RECOGNIZE YOU FROM YOUR VOICE
ALONE?
>> IT'S DEFINITELY HAPPENED MORE
OFTEN.
AND INTERESTINGLY ENOUGH, SINCE
THE PANDEMIC STRUCK, I DON'T
WANT TO DEPRESS YOU ABOUT THE
PANDEMIC
>> Seth: THAT'S FINE
>> NO, NO, NO, YOU CAN HANDLE
IT
SORRY.
SINCE THE -- SINCE THE PANDEMIC
STRUCK, I'VE FOUND A -- LIKE A
SEA CHANGE IN PEOPLE RECOGNIZING
ME
BECAUSE IT -- I DIDN'T KNOW AT
FIRST WHY IT WAS HAPPENING
AND THEN I DISCOVERED THAT IT
WAS THE MASK
CAUSE I WEAR A MASK WHENEVER I'M
OUT.
AND FOR SOME REASON, THAT
TRIGGERS PEOPLE TO HEAR MY
VOICE, I ASSUME THE WAY THEY
HEAR IT LIKE ON TELEVISION WHEN
THEY DON'T HAVE TO SEE MY FACE
WHICH IS TYPICALLY LIKE A GOOD
THING.
SO NOW I'M LIKE CONSTANTLY
RECOGNIZED, EITHER FOR "ARCHER"
OR FOR "BOB'S.
AND IT'S SOME WEIRD BRAIN
TEASER
IF YOU SEE SOMEONE'S MOUTH -
>> Seth: ARE YOU -
I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY I'VE KNOWN YOU
FOREVER, I'VE KNOWN YOUR WORK
FOREVER.
ARE PEOPLE SURPRISED WHEN YOU
ARE THE VOICE OF "ARCHER"?
>> ARE PEOPLE SURPRISED WHEN
THEY SEE ME?
>> Seth: YEAH.
>> YES
LIKE -- MORE DISAPPOINTED.
ARCHER IS VERY HANDSOME, LIKE
WELL -- LIKE WELL -- WHAT DO YOU
SAY?
WELL STRUCTURED?
>> Seth: A WELL-BUILT FELLOW, I
GUESS?
>> WELL BUILT.
WELL-BUILT FELLOW.
SO THEY -- YES
I COME LIKE IT'S AN UNEXPECTED
PACKAGE.
I THINK THEY WOULD PREFER TO SEE
THE -- THE ANIMATED VERSION.
>> Seth: YOU -- YOUR SON IS 17
SO HE, YOU KNOW -- MUCH OF HIS
CHILDHOOD, YOU HAVE HAD THESE
SHOWS ON TELEVISION.
IS HE A FAN OF THEM?
IS HE A FAN OF ONE MORE THAN THE
OTHER?
>> HE'S -- LIKE RECENTLY NOT A
FAN OF ME.
>> Seth: OH, RIGHT
>> AND THAT PROBABLY LIKE BOILS
INTO -- THAT SPILLS INTO MY WORK
NOW.
HE WAS A BIG "BOB'S BURGERS" FAN
I THINK FOR YEARS.
THAT WAS A SHOW THAT WE WOULD
WATCH REGULARLY.
AND HE WAS A BIG "ARCHER" FAN.
"ARCHER" ACTUALLY HELPED HIM
THROUGH HIS FIRST CAMP CAUSE I
GAVE HIM ALL THE AUDIO
HE WAS ALLOWED TO HAVE, YOU
KNOW, LIKE A DEVICE THAT SHOWED
THE SHOW
BUT THAT WAS -- THAT WAS WHEN HE
WAS LIKE 11.
SO HE'S NOT ENJOYED ME SINCE
>> Seth: SO, IT'S SORT OF LIKE
THERE WAS AN ARC OF IT LIKE
PEAKING, LIKE HAVING
JON BENJAMIN AS A --
>> IT PEAKED AT 11 >> Seth:
YEAH
>> AND YES, NOW HE'S JUST
DISGRUNTLED.
>> Seth: SO I HAD THIS REALLY
FUN JOURNEY TODAY, BECAUSE YOU
HAVE A JAZZ ALBUM.
IT IS -- IT'S WONDERFUL,
"JON BENJAMIN JAZZ DAREDEVIL,"
AND I HAD THIS REALLY GREAT
JOURNEY TODAY BECAUSE MY FIRST
THOUGHT WAS, I DIDN'T KNOW JON
PLAYED PIANO
AND THEN IT TURNS OUT YOU DON'T.
>> NO.
THAT -- YES.
I'M SORRY FOR THE SURPRISE
I CAME OUT WITH MY DEBUT JAZZ
ALBUM IN 2015, SO THIS IS LIKE,
A FOLLOW-UP.
AND I HAVE YET TO LEARN HOW TO
PLAY PIANO
>> Seth: AND SO IT'S -
WONDERFUL JAZZ MUSICIANS, AND
THEN YOU
>> THE ORIGINAL ALBUM WAS A
QUARTET.
THREE VERY TALENTED JAZZ
MUSICIANS, AND ME, NOT BEING
ABLE TO PLAY, BUT TRYING VERY
HARD
>> Seth: THAT'S THE REALLY FUN
PART ABOUT IT IS IT'S NOT --
YOU'RE NOT PURPOSELY PLAYING
BADLY.
YOU'RE DOING THE VERY BEST YOU
CAN.
>> EXACTLY
YES.
I'M GLAD THAT --
>> Seth: AND EVEN TO THE
UNTRAINED EAR, IT'S VERY CLEAR
YOU DON'T KNOW HOW TO PLAY
>> YES
AND I'M DOING -- THE NEW ALBUM,
I'M DOING COVERS OF SOUNDTRACKS,
YOU KNOW, FROM TV AND MOVIES, SO
IT'S VERY APPARENT
ALTHOUGH I SWITCHED TO
SYNTHESIZER TO TRY AND COVER
SOME OF THE BAD ACOUSTIC
PLAYING, BUT THAT DIDN'T REALLY
WORK OUT
>> Seth: YOU WENT -- IS THIS A
SYMPHONY ORCHESTRA IN HUNGARY?
>> YEAH.
>> Seth: SO YOU WENT TO PLAY -
I THINK -- WAS IT "2001"
IS THAT WHAT YOU WERE -- THE
SOUNDTRACK YOU WERE PLAYING?
>> WE WENT TO -- WE RECORDED -
NO, NOT THE -- OH, THE "2001
SPACE ODYSSEY," THE PRELUDE.
>> Seth: YEAH.
>> SO IT'S LIKE THE THREE-MINUTE
PRELUDE THAT YOU -- FEATURED IN
"2001.
>> Seth: AND THEY DIDN'T
REALIZE --
YOU SORT OF HIRED THEM TO PLAY
ALONG WITH YOU, AND THEY WERE
NOT -- THEY DIDN'T QUITE KNOW
WHAT YOUR DEAL WAS GOING TO BE,
RIGHT?
>> WELL, THEY WERE LIKE
DEFINITELY CONFUSED WHEN THEY
SAW THE SPACE THEY WERE --
>> Seth: YEAH, I THINK THAT'S
FAIR
I THINK THAT'S FAIR OF THEM TO
BE CONFUSED.
>> BUT I THINK THEY MIGHT HAVE
THOUGHT, LIKE, OH, THIS GUY IS
REALLY SERIOUS
HE'S VERY INTO HIS MUSIC
HE WEARS A SPACESUIT
I THOUGHT MAYBE THAT MIGHT HAVE
BEEN SOMETHING
THEY DID NOT ALSO SPEAK VERY
MUCH ENGLISH
AND WE DIDN'T HAVE A LOT OF
TIME, AND THEY WERE NOT TOLD
THAT I COULDN'T PLAY AND I WAS
SHOCKED.
CAUSE WE WERE SHOOTING A VIDEO
OF THAT.
AND I WAS SHOCKED THEY WERE NOT
AT ALL DISRUPTED
LIKE WHEN THEY HEARD ME PLAY
WITH THEM, THEY KEPT PLAYING
SO THEY WERE TOTAL PROS.
AND I -- I DON'T APPRECIATE
THAT
[ LAUGHTER ]
>> Seth: WAS IT EVER EXPLAINED
TO THEM, LIKE AT THE END
>> AT THE END IT WAS, YEAH
AND I THINK THEY WERE KIND OF
LIKE -- THEY WERE BUSY, LIKE
THEY DIDN'T CARE ABOUT MY JOKE
SO THEY LIKE -- I THINK THEY
LIKE -
THE JOKE SORT OF WAS LIKE, SOME
OF THEM, ONCE IT WAS
COMMUNICATED THROUGH -
YOU KNOW, I WAS LISTENING TO --
I WAS OBSERVING THEM HEAR ABOUT
THE JOKE
AND ONLY LIKE TWO OR THREE OF
THEM WERE LIKE -- LIKE TITTERED.
[ LAUGHTER ]
AND THEN THE REST WERE LIKE, OH,
THAT SEEMS LIKE A BIG WASTE OF
OUR TIME
>> Seth: IT'S ON YOUTUBE, IT'S A
REALLY FUNNY VIDEO
I HIGHLY RECOMMEND EVERYBODY
WATCHES THAT
THANKS SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE,
JON.
"ARCHER," WEDNESDAYS ON FXX.
STREAMS THE NEXT DAY VIA FX ON
HULU
WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK WITH MORE
"LATE NIGHT.
♪
>> Seth: IF YOU LIKE THIS SHOW,
YOU'RE PROBABLY WAITING FOR ME
TO FINISH TALKING SO
AMBER RUFFIN CAN COME ON
SO NOW, DO I HAVE SOME GOOD NEWS
FOR YOU.
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YOU DON'T HAVE TO CHOOSE BETWEEN
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AND SHE IS PRETTY MUCH
EVERYONE'S FAVORITE.
I CAN'T SAY I BLAME YOU.
WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK.
♪
>> Seth: I WANT TO THANK MY
GUESTS, SARAH PAULSON AND
H. JON BENJAMIN.
I WANT TO THANK FRED ARMISEN AND
THE 8G BAND.
STAY TUNED FOR "LILLY SINGH.
STAY SAFE.
WASH YOUR HANDS.
WEAR A MASK.
WE LOVE YOU.
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