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IN 2003,
THERE WERE 391 HOMICIDES
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IN METROPOLITAN PHILADELPHIA.
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THIS IS THE STORY
OF ONE OF THOSE CASES.
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HI. I'VE GOT GOOD NEWS
FOR YOU, BUT I CAN'T TALK HERE.
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I -- I'LL TALK TO YOU LATER,
OKAY?
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FAY AND HER FAMILY
CAME HERE FROM MOLDOVA,
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THE FORMER SOVIET UNION,
TO ACHIEVE THE AMERICAN DREAM.
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THANK YOU. BYE.
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FAY, I HAVE NEVER SAID
THIS TO A COWORKER,
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BUT YOU HAVE TO STOP
WORKING SO HARD.
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I KNOW, I KNOW, ILIA,
BUT THERE'S SO MUCH TO DO.
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COME ON.
I'LL WALK YOU OUT.
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FAY WAS A VERY RESPECTED
PERSON IN THE COMMUNITY.
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SHE WAS THE GLUE OF EVERYBODY
THAT KNEW HER.
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HAVE A GOOD NIGHT, ILIA.
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- YOU TOO, FAY.
- BYE.
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FAY WAS SUPPOSED
TO VISIT HER FATHER.
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HER HUSBAND AND HER SON
WERE WAITING FOR HER
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TO GO TO THE HOSPITAL.
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FAY DID NOT MAKE IT TO VISIT
HER FATHER THAT NIGHT.
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HELP ME! HELP ME!
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PLEASE LEAVE YOUR MESSAGE.
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FAY, THIS IS MESSAGE THREE.
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WE'RE GETTING A LITTLE
WORRIED NOW,
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SO IF YOU GOT TIED UP AT WORK,
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PLEASE JUST CALL
AND SAY SO, OKAY?
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LET ME TRY HER AT WORK AGAIN.
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FAY ZONIS' FAMILY
WERE GOING TO MEET
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AT NAZARETH HOSPITAL
IN PHILADELPHIA
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TO VISIT FAY'S FATHER,
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WHO WAS RECUPERATING
IN THE HOSPITAL.
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FAY'S HUSBAND ALEX,
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SON EUGENE, AND NEPHEW MICHAEL
WAIT FOR HER
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AND BECOME
INCREASINGLY CONCERNED.
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SHE DOESN'T COME TO THE HOSPITAL
FOR HER OWN FATHER?
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SHE DOESN'T ANSWER HER PHONE?
SHE DOESN'T CALL BACK?
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IT'S NOT LIKE HER, BUT I'M SURE
THERE'S A GOOD EXPLANATION.
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THEY WERE A VERY CARING
AND CLOSE FAMILY.
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IF SHE DIDN'T SHOW UP
WHERE SHE WAS SUPPOSED TO,
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SOMETHING IS WRONG.
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TWO HOURS GO BY,
BUT SHE DOESN'T APPEAR.
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GENE, WHY DON'T YOU AND MICHAEL
GO DOWN TO THE OFFICE
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AND SEE IF YOU CAN
FIND HER, PLEASE?
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GO.
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FAY'S OFFICE WAS
IN UPPER SOUTHAMPTON TOWNSHIP,
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APPROXIMATELY 7 MILES
FROM NORTHEAST PHILADELPHIA.
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SEE, WORKING LATE.
I TOLD YOU.
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THEY SAW THE VAN,
AND THAT WAS KIND OF A RELIEF.
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FAY IS AT WORK. SHE'S STILL
AT WORK, THE VAN IS THERE.
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MOM, YOU HERE?
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MOM?
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MOM?
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MOM!
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THEY FOUND FAY ON THE FLOOR,
AND THERE WAS BLOOD EVERYWHERE.
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SHE WAS BRUTALLY,
BRUTALLY STABBED.
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DETECTIVE FRANK GROOME
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WITH THE UPPER SOUTHAMPTON
TOWNSHIP POLICE,
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FROM PHILADELPHIA'S
NEIGHBORING BUCKS COUNTY,
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IS ASSIGNED TO THE CASE.
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UPPER SOUTHAMPTON IS TYPICALLY
A VERY SAFE COMMUNITY,
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BUT WHEN A HOMICIDE DOES OCCUR,
IT'S AN ALL HANDS ON DECK.
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GROOME'S PARTNER MARK ZIELINSKI
IS ALREADY ON SCENE.
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FAMILY?
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YEAH, THEY FOUND HER.
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THE TWO MALES THAT HAD MADE
THE 911 CALL WERE STILL ON SCENE
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STANDING OUTSIDE
AND WERE VISIBLY UPSET.
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OBVIOUSLY, YOU'RE SYMPATHETIC
TO THEIR NEEDS,
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AND YOU'RE SYMPATHETIC TO
THEIR FEELINGS AT THIS POINT.
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LET'S TAKE A LOOK INSIDE.
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THE DETECTIVES ENTER
THE OFFICE TO VIEW FAY'S BODY.
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WATCH THE BLOOD, DETECTIVES.
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WE COULD SEE IMMEDIATELY
A FEMALE'S BODY
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LAYING FACE UP ON THE FLOOR.
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THERE WERE STAB WOUNDS ABOUT
THE FACE AND NECK AND CHEST.
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THERE WAS A POOL OF BLOOD
TO THE SIDE OF HER HEAD.
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SEE A KNIFE ANYWHERE?
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NO, BUT THERE'S MORE
THAN JUST BLOOD HERE.
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THERE WAS ALSO SOME BRUISING
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TO THE LIPS
AND SIDE OF THE FACE.
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MAYBE THE VICTIM HAD BEEN
POUNDED ON THE FLOOR.
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LOOK HOW HER JACKET IS.
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THE JACKET WAS HALF
OFF OF HER ARM.
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IT LOOKED LIKE SHE HAD BEEN
EITHER TAKING OFF HER JACKET
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OR PUTTING ON HER JACKET.
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LIKE HE JUMPED HER
WHEN SHE WALKED IN.
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COULD BE...OR HE
WALKED IN WITH HER.
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DETECTIVES ARE PUZZLED.
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THEY'VE BEEN TOLD THE VICTIM
LEFT THE BUILDING,
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BUT THEY WONDER --
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HAD SHE RETURNED
AND THEN BEEN ASSAULTED?
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WE DIDN'T SEE
ANYTHING DISTURBED,
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CLEARLY UPSET,
LIKE DRAWERS PULLED OUT,
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THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
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COWORKER SHE LEFT THE BUILDING
WITH IS ON HIS WAY DOWN.
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HE SAYS THEY DON'T
KEEP ANY CASH HERE.
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NOTHING TO TAKE, REALLY.
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AT THIS POINT
IN THE INVESTIGATION,
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WE DIDN'T KNOW WHETHER ROBBERY
WAS THE MOTIVE OR NOT.
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WITH THE STAB WOUNDS,
OBVIOUSLY WE WERE LOOKING
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FOR SOME TYPE
OF CUTTING INSTRUMENT,
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AND WE COULD FIND
NO KNIFE IN THE OFFICE.
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THAT WOULD MAKE US THINK
THAT THE ACTOR
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IN THIS PARTICULAR CRIME
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TOOK THE WEAPON WITH THEM
WHEN THEY LEFT THE SCENE.
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ALTHOUGH THE KILLER
HAD TRIED TO COVER HIS TRACKS,
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HE DID LEAVE SOMETHING BEHIND.
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WHAT DO WE GOT HERE?
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THERE WAS A PIECE
OF BLACK PLASTIC
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LAYING ON THE FLOOR
TO THE SIDE OF THE BODY.
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IF IT WAS A KNIFE HANDLE,
IT COULD HAVE BROKEN OFF
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IN THE FORCE OF THE STRUGGLE
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AND BEEN LEFT LYING
ON THE FLOOR.
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IF THIS IS THE HANDLE,
WHERE'S THE KNIFE?
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DETECTIVES KNOW
THEY NEED TO LOCATE
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THE REST OF THE MURDER WEAPON,
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BUT IN THE MEANTIME
THEY TURN THEIR ATTENTION
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TO FAY'S MINIVAN
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AND A CLEARER PICTURE OF
THE CRIME COMES INTO FOCUS.
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THE VAN WAS JUST STOPPED IN
THE DRIVEWAY ALONGSIDE THE STEPS
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THAT LEAD UP TO THE SIDE
OF THE BUILDING.
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LOOKS LIKE
SHE WAS IN A HURRY.
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JUST PARKED THE CAR
AND JUMPED OUT?
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KIND OF LOOKED LIKE SOMEBODY
WAS EITHER LEAVING WORK
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AND HAD TO RUN BACK
IN THE OFFICE REAL QUICK,
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THEY MAY HAVE
FORGOTTEN SOMETHING,
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OR THEY MAY HAVE BEEN
CALLED BACK INTO THE OFFICE.
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PURSE IS HERE.
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I CAN SEE THE WALLET
STILL IN IT.
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THERE WAS A WOMAN'S PURSE INSIDE
BETWEEN THE TWO FRONT SEATS,
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AND THERE WAS A CELL PHONE
ON THE DASHBOARD.
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IT APPEARED FROM LOOKING AT HER
CAR THAT IT WASN'T A ROBBERY.
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WHICH MEANS SOMEONE
WANTED FAY ZONIS DEAD
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AND NOTHING ELSE.
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EVERYBODY WANT SOME CAKE?
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LISTEN.
THIS IS WHAT I'M HERE FOR.
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FAY'S DEATH DEVASTATED
EVERYONE THAT KNEW HER.
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FAY'S COWORKERS LOVED HER.
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HER FAMILY AND FRIENDS
LOVED HER.
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THERE'S, LIKE,
JAM EVERYWHERE.
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SHE WAS LOVED BY THE COMMUNITY
AND VERY WELL-KNOWN,
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SO IF YOU DIDN'T KNOW HER,
YOU KNEW OF HER.
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- CHEERS, EVERYBODY.
- CHEERS.
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AND FAY WAS THE
TRUSTED FACE OF THIS COMMUNITY.
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NO ONE COULD HAVE EXPECTED
ANYTHING LIKE THIS.
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OKAY, CHEERS.
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WITH ROBBERY
AN UNLIKELY MOTIVE,
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DETECTIVES MUST ENTERTAIN
ALL POSSIBILITIES
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OF WHY FAY WAS MURDERED.
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AT THIS POINT, WE DON'T KNOW
IF IT'S A FAMILY MEMBER,
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IF IT'S A FRIEND,
IF IT'S A COWORKER
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OR IF IT'S JUST SOMEONE
THAT CAME IN OFF THE STREET.
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FAY'S COWORKER IS
CALLED IN FOR QUESTIONING,
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AND SPEAKS WITH DETECTIVES
ONLY A FEW HOURS
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AFTER HE LAST SAW HER ALIVE.
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COULD YOU WALK ME
THROUGH YOUR DAY TODAY?
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ANYTHING UNUSUAL HAPPEN
AT THE OFFICE?
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NO, NOTHING REALLY.
REGULAR DAY.
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THAT COWORKER TOLD US
THAT THEY HAD BOTH
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LEFT THE BUILDING
AT THE SAME TIME
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AND HAD LOCKED UP
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AND HAD BOTH WALKED TO
THEIR CAR AT AROUND 6:00.
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DID YOU NOTICE ANYTHING
UNUSUAL WHEN YOU LEFT?
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ANYONE SUSPICIOUS?
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NO, NOTHING LIKE THAT.
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SO WE KNOW SHE HAD MADE IT
OUT TO HER CAR
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BEFORE BEING EITHER BROUGHT
BACK INTO THE BUSINESS
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OR GOING BACK INTO THE BUSINESS.
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DO YOU KNOW IF FAY WAS
HAVING TROUBLE WITH ANYONE?
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IS THAT SOMETHING THAT
SHE WOULD SPEAK TO YOU ABOUT?
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YES. SHE WOULD TALK TO ME
ABOUT ANYTHING,
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BUT SHE NEVER DID.
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BUT AS DETECTIVES ARE
GETTING THEIR INVESTIGATION
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UP AND RUNNING...
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...THERE'S A DEVELOPMENT
ABOUT A MILE DOWN THE ROAD
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THAT GETS THEIR ATTENTION.
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WHILE WE WERE INTERVIEWING
THE COWORKER WITNESS,
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WE GOT A CALL FROM ONE
OF THE POLICE OFFICERS
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OUT ON THE STREET.
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930 TO DISPATCH.
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APPARENTLY, HE HAD STOPPED
A MOTOR VEHICLE
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AND LEARNED THAT THE CAR
WAS REPORTED STOLEN.
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GO AHEAD, 930.
WE GOT A MOTOR VEHICLE STOPPED.
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BROWN CHEVY CAVALIER,
PENNSY PLATE.
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WE WANTED TO KNOW
WHERE HE WAS COMING FROM.
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DO YOU KNOW WHY
WE STOPPED YOU?
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YEAH.
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YOU'RE A COP.
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HE HAD WHAT APPEARED TO BE
HUMAN BLOOD ON HIS PANTS.
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I GOT BLOOD ON HIS PANTS.
CALL FOR BACKUP.
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SO IN OUR LINE OF WORK,
COINCIDENCES ARE VERY RARE,
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AND WE IMMEDIATELY BECAME
VERY INTERESTED IN HIM
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AS A SUSPECT.
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GET OUT OF THE CAR.
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KEEP YOUR HANDS
WHERE I CAN SEE THEM.
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DISPATCH, THROW ME MORE UNITS.
I GOT SUSPECT AT GUNPOINT.
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DO IT NOW.
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A FEW HOURS
AFTER FAY ZONIS
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WAS FOUND STABBED
TO DEATH IN HER OFFICE
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JUST OUTSIDE PHILADELPHIA,
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POLICE HAVE PULLED OVER
A MAN DRIVING A STOLEN CAR.
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GET OUT OF THE CAR!
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KEEP YOUR HANDS
WHERE I CAN SEE THEM.
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THE OFFICER WAS TALKING TO HIM
AND NOTICED BLOOD ON HIS PANTS,
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SO HE IMMEDIATELY
CONTACTED US AND TOLD US
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THAT HE WOULD BE
BRINGING THIS PERSON
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BACK TO THE POLICE STATION
FOR FURTHER INTERVIEW.
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**
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BUCKS COUNTY DETECTIVE
MIKE MOSINIAK
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JOINS DETECTIVE GROOME
TO QUESTION THEIR SUSPECT,
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A MAN NAMED RAY ARCHIBALD.
234
00:12:33,267 --> 00:12:35,827
SO YOU'RE DRIVING
A STOLEN CAR, RAY.
235
00:12:35,833 --> 00:12:37,898
YOU'VE GOT BLOOD ON YOUR PANTS.
236
00:12:37,933 --> 00:12:40,073
AND TONIGHT, A WOMAN GETS
STABBED ABOUT A MILE AWAY
237
00:12:40,108 --> 00:12:41,627
FROM WHERE YOU GOT PULLED OVER.
238
00:12:41,633 --> 00:12:43,565
WHAT?
239
00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:45,630
YOU GOT TO BE KIDDING ME,
RIGHT?
240
00:12:45,633 --> 00:12:47,865
THAT AIN'T GOT NOTHING
TO DO WITH ME.
241
00:12:47,900 --> 00:12:52,730
HE TOLD US THE BLOOD
ON HIS PANTS WAS A FIGHT
242
00:12:52,733 --> 00:12:55,973
THAT HE HAD GOTTEN INTO
SEVERAL DAYS PRIOR.
243
00:12:56,008 --> 00:12:58,497
AND I WAS AT HOME TONIGHT.
ASK MY MOM.
244
00:12:58,500 --> 00:13:00,265
HE HAD GOTTEN IN
AN ARGUMENT WITH HER,
245
00:13:00,300 --> 00:13:03,970
AND HE HAD DEPARTED THE HOUSE
ANGRILY DURING THAT ARGUMENT.
246
00:13:04,005 --> 00:13:06,497
HIS MOTHER THEN CALLED
THE POLICE AND REPORTED
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00:13:06,500 --> 00:13:07,948
THAT HE HAD TAKEN HER VEHICLE.
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00:13:07,983 --> 00:13:09,397
I SWEAR, MAN,
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00:13:09,400 --> 00:13:10,630
I AIN'T GOT NOTHING TO DO
WITH THAT.
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00:13:10,633 --> 00:13:12,073
HOLD THAT THOUGHT, RAY.
I DIDN'T KILL THAT LADY.
251
00:13:12,108 --> 00:13:14,297
- I WASN'T THERE.
- HOLD THAT THOUGHT.
252
00:13:14,300 --> 00:13:17,600
DETECTIVE GROOME IS INTERRUPTED
BY HIS COLLEAGUE IN THE HALLWAY,
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00:13:17,635 --> 00:13:19,432
DETECTIVE MARK ZIELINSKI.
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00:13:19,467 --> 00:13:23,432
- WHAT'S UP?
- GOT SOMETHING FROM RAY'S CAR.
255
00:13:23,467 --> 00:13:27,827
UNDERNEATH THE SEAT
OF THE CAR, WE FOUND A KNIFE.
256
00:13:27,833 --> 00:13:31,903
AND BECAUSE OF THE STAB WOUNDS
THAT THE VICTIM HAD,
257
00:13:31,938 --> 00:13:34,070
THIS WAS SOMEWHAT
INTERESTING TO US.
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00:13:34,105 --> 00:13:36,197
THIS IS EVEN BETTER.
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00:13:36,200 --> 00:13:39,032
**
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RAY ARCHIBALD
IS WANTED FOR MORE
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00:13:40,802 --> 00:13:43,197
THAN JUST A STOLEN CAR.
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00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:44,930
HE WAS WANTED IN CONNECTION
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00:13:44,933 --> 00:13:48,232
WITH A DRY CLEANER ROBBERY
IN MONTGOMERY COUNTY.
264
00:13:48,267 --> 00:13:52,497
HE WAS ALSO WANTED IN CONNECTION
WITH A ROBBERY IN BUCKS COUNTY.
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00:13:55,467 --> 00:13:57,567
THAT LOOK FAMILIAR?
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00:13:57,602 --> 00:13:59,632
NOPE.
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00:13:59,667 --> 00:14:01,732
WELL, IT SHOULD.
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00:14:01,767 --> 00:14:05,497
IT SEEMS YOU HAVE A THING
FOR KNIVES, RAY.
269
00:14:05,500 --> 00:14:06,932
WE'RE NOT IN
THE COINCIDENCE BUSINESS.
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00:14:06,967 --> 00:14:10,397
WE'RE IN THE FACT BUSINESS,
AND THE FACTS WERE THAT
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00:14:10,400 --> 00:14:12,232
HE HAD BEEN WANTED
FOR KNIFEPOINT ROBBERIES,
272
00:14:12,267 --> 00:14:14,267
HE HAD BLOOD ON HIS PANTS...
273
00:14:14,302 --> 00:14:16,567
...AND HE HAD BEEN DRIVING
THROUGH THE AREA
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00:14:16,602 --> 00:14:18,332
AFTER THE CRIME HAD OCCURRED.
275
00:14:18,367 --> 00:14:20,867
IT'S QUITE POSSIBLE
THAT THIS WAS OUR SUSPECT.
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00:14:22,067 --> 00:14:24,927
RAY, STAND UP.
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00:14:24,933 --> 00:14:27,203
TAKE YOUR SHIRT OFF.
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00:14:27,238 --> 00:14:29,330
WHAT?
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00:14:29,333 --> 00:14:33,103
DUE TO THE DEFENSIVE
WOUNDS ON FAY ZONIS' BODY,
280
00:14:33,138 --> 00:14:35,430
POLICE BELIEVE
SHE PUT UP A FIGHT.
281
00:14:35,433 --> 00:14:38,032
IF RAY ARCHIBALD IS THE KILLER,
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00:14:38,067 --> 00:14:40,732
HE MAY HAVE THE WOUNDS
TO PROVE IT.
283
00:14:40,767 --> 00:14:43,897
YOU CAN DO IT NOW, OR I CAN BOOK
YOU IN WHILE I GET A WARRANT.
284
00:14:43,900 --> 00:14:51,230
**
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00:14:52,908 --> 00:15:00,797
**
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00:15:00,800 --> 00:15:04,470
THOUGHT YOU SAID YOU GOT
INTO A FIGHT A FEW NIGHTS AGO.
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00:15:04,505 --> 00:15:06,432
I WON.
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00:15:06,467 --> 00:15:08,197
WE FIGURED IF THIS
PARTICULAR INDIVIDUAL
289
00:15:08,200 --> 00:15:10,532
HAD STRUGGLED
WITH OUR VICTIM,
290
00:15:10,567 --> 00:15:13,727
THERE WOULD HAVE BEEN SOME
TYPE OF WOUNDS ON THE BODY,
291
00:15:13,733 --> 00:15:16,565
AND THIS PARTICULAR
PERSON HAD NONE.
292
00:15:16,600 --> 00:15:19,270
LOOK. YOU GOT ME
FOR ALL THE OTHER STUFF,
293
00:15:19,305 --> 00:15:21,497
BUT FOR THIS MURDER,
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00:15:21,500 --> 00:15:23,730
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE HELL
YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
295
00:15:23,733 --> 00:15:25,532
HE TOLD US
THAT HE WAS INVOLVED
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00:15:25,567 --> 00:15:29,227
WITH THE SERIES OF ROBBERIES
AND BURGLARIES IN THE AREA,
297
00:15:29,233 --> 00:15:32,565
BUT HE HAD NOTHING TO DO
WITH THIS HOMICIDE.
298
00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:36,333
IT'S NOT JUST A LACK
OF WOUNDS THAT DOESN'T FIT.
299
00:15:36,368 --> 00:15:40,067
TESTING CONFIRMS THE BLOOD
ON RAY'S PANTS IS NOT FAY'S,
300
00:15:40,102 --> 00:15:42,332
AND HIS MOTHER
BACKS UP HIS STORY.
301
00:15:42,367 --> 00:15:46,697
HE WAS WITH HER AT THE TIME
THE MURDER LIKELY OCCURRED.
302
00:15:46,700 --> 00:15:48,750
AS IT TURNED OUT,
THIS INDIVIDUAL
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00:15:48,785 --> 00:15:50,765
HAD NOTHING TO DO
WITH THE HOMICIDE.
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00:15:50,800 --> 00:15:54,630
RAY ARCHIBALD IS CLEARED OF ANY
INVOLVEMENT IN FAY'S MURDER.
305
00:15:54,633 --> 00:16:03,032
**
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00:16:03,067 --> 00:16:05,627
DETECTIVES MUST CONSIDER
THOSE CLOSEST TO FAY
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00:16:05,633 --> 00:16:07,932
AS POSSIBLE SUSPECTS.
308
00:16:07,967 --> 00:16:10,427
ALTHOUGH HE SEEMS
DEEPLY BEREAVED,
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00:16:10,433 --> 00:16:14,232
FAY'S HUSBAND ALEX ZONIS
IS QUESTIONED.
310
00:16:14,267 --> 00:16:16,227
WE NEED YOU TO WALK US
THROUGH WHAT HAPPENED.
311
00:16:17,933 --> 00:16:21,373
WELL, WE WERE ALL SUPPOSED
TO MEET AT THE HOSPITAL.
312
00:16:21,408 --> 00:16:25,297
WE TRIED TO REACH HER
AT WORK AROUND THE TIME
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00:16:25,300 --> 00:16:26,732
SHE WAS GOING TO LEAVE,
314
00:16:26,767 --> 00:16:29,432
BUT SHE NEVER
PICKED UP THE PHONE.
315
00:16:29,467 --> 00:16:34,032
ALEX HAD ATTEMPTED TO CONTACT
HER AROUND 6:00 P.M.,
316
00:16:34,067 --> 00:16:37,327
WHICH WAS THE TIME THAT SHE WAS
SUPPOSED TO BE DEPARTING WORK,
317
00:16:37,333 --> 00:16:41,903
AND THAT HE HAD CALLED HER
SEVERAL TIMES WITH NO RESPONSE.
318
00:16:41,938 --> 00:16:44,365
SO WE DECIDED TO GO AHEAD
319
00:16:44,400 --> 00:16:45,665
BECAUSE WE THOUGHT
SHE WAS DELAYED
320
00:16:45,700 --> 00:16:51,470
AND THAT SHE WOULD MEET US
LATER AT THE HOSPITAL.
321
00:16:51,505 --> 00:16:54,427
SO YOU'RE SAYING YOU WERE
EITHER AT HOME
322
00:16:54,433 --> 00:16:56,273
OR AT THE HOSPITAL,
NOWHERE ELSE?
323
00:16:56,308 --> 00:16:57,427
THAT'S IT?
324
00:16:57,433 --> 00:16:59,565
THAT'S IT.
325
00:16:59,600 --> 00:17:03,600
AT THAT TIME,
EVERYONE IS A SUSPECT,
326
00:17:03,635 --> 00:17:05,430
EVERYONE WE SPEAK TO,
327
00:17:05,433 --> 00:17:08,573
SO WE WEREN'T ELIMINATING
ANYONE AT THAT POINT.
328
00:17:08,608 --> 00:17:10,397
WHAT ABOUT YOU AND FAY?
329
00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:13,530
WHAT DO YOU MEAN?
330
00:17:13,533 --> 00:17:16,933
ANY TROUBLE WITH THE MARRIAGE,
ANY FIGHTING?
331
00:17:16,968 --> 00:17:20,398
WE HAD OUR MOMENTS,
LIKE EVERYONE.
332
00:17:20,433 --> 00:17:24,065
AND HE TOLD US THAT HE AND FAY
HAD SEPARATED TWICE,
333
00:17:24,100 --> 00:17:28,230
ONCE BACK IN THE SOVIET UNION
AND AGAIN IN PHILADELPHIA.
334
00:17:28,233 --> 00:17:29,498
THEY STAYED IN THE HOME.
335
00:17:29,533 --> 00:17:33,098
THEY WERE JUST SEPARATED
AS HUSBAND AND WIFE.
336
00:17:33,133 --> 00:17:37,203
ALEX TELLS THEM HE
AND FAY HAD SINCE RECONCILED.
337
00:17:37,238 --> 00:17:39,570
MR. ZONIS, WE JUST HAVE
TO CHECK EVERYONE
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00:17:39,605 --> 00:17:42,067
AND EVERYTHING
IN CASES LIKE THIS.
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00:17:42,102 --> 00:17:44,232
I UNDERSTAND.
340
00:17:44,267 --> 00:17:48,047
WE DID SOME BACKGROUND
INVESTIGATION ON ALEX ZONIS
341
00:17:48,082 --> 00:17:51,827
AND DETERMINED THAT HIS STORY
WAS CORRECT AND HONEST.
342
00:17:51,833 --> 00:17:56,298
**
343
00:17:56,333 --> 00:17:58,132
TWO DAYS AFTER THE MURDER,
344
00:17:58,167 --> 00:18:01,117
STILL SEARCHING FOR A SUSPECT
AND A MOTIVE,
345
00:18:01,152 --> 00:18:04,067
POLICE RECEIVE FAY ZONIS'
CELL PHONE RECORDS,
346
00:18:04,102 --> 00:18:05,964
LOOKING FOR ANY POSSIBLE LEADS.
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00:18:05,999 --> 00:18:07,827
ALL RIGHT.
CHECK THIS OUT.
348
00:18:07,833 --> 00:18:10,703
THERE'S A LOT OF CALLS HERE
WITH THE SAME NUMBER.
349
00:18:12,800 --> 00:18:15,330
AND WE TOOK NOTE THAT
SHE HAD COMMUNICATED
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00:18:15,333 --> 00:18:17,298
WITH ONE PARTICULAR PHONE NUMBER
351
00:18:17,333 --> 00:18:20,873
AT LEAST 15 TIMES THAT DAY,
THE DAY LEADING UP TO HER DEATH.
352
00:18:20,908 --> 00:18:23,497
LET'S FIND OUT
WHO'S CALLING FAY.
353
00:18:23,500 --> 00:18:26,500
**
354
00:18:28,833 --> 00:18:36,265
**
355
00:18:36,300 --> 00:18:38,300
INVESTIGATORS
HAVE GOTTEN AHOLD
356
00:18:38,335 --> 00:18:40,230
OF FAY ZONIS'
CELL PHONE RECORDS
357
00:18:40,233 --> 00:18:42,203
TO SEE WHO FAY WAS TALKING TO
IN THE DAYS
358
00:18:42,238 --> 00:18:45,370
AND HOURS LEADING
UP TO HER MURDER.
359
00:18:45,405 --> 00:18:46,827
AND SEE THERE.
360
00:18:46,833 --> 00:18:49,273
IT'S ALMOST ON THE HOUR,
EVERY HOUR.
361
00:18:49,308 --> 00:18:51,627
ONE, TWO, THREE RIGHT IN A ROW.
362
00:18:51,633 --> 00:18:54,183
ALL TO THE SAME NUMBER.
363
00:18:54,218 --> 00:18:56,733
YEAH, THE SAME ONE.
364
00:18:57,933 --> 00:19:00,216
LET'S FIND OUT
WHO'S CALLING FAY.
365
00:19:00,251 --> 00:19:02,465
POLICE TRACK THE NUMBER
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00:19:02,500 --> 00:19:05,430
TO A FRIEND OF THE ZONIS FAMILY
NAMED PAUL GOLDMAN.
367
00:19:05,433 --> 00:19:08,903
PAUL AND HIS WIFE IRINA
WERE ALSO PART OF PHILADELPHIA'S
368
00:19:08,938 --> 00:19:10,832
RUSSIAN COMMUNITY.
369
00:19:10,867 --> 00:19:13,832
WHEN FAY FIRST
EMIGRATED TO AMERICA,
370
00:19:13,867 --> 00:19:16,967
SHE WAS TEACHING COMPUTER
CLASSES TO RUSSIAN IMMIGRANTS,
371
00:19:17,002 --> 00:19:20,127
AND PAUL BECAME
ONE OF HER STUDENTS.
372
00:19:20,133 --> 00:19:22,233
THEN THEIR FAMILIES
BECAME FRIENDS.
373
00:19:24,433 --> 00:19:28,073
THE GOLDMAN FAMILY
AND THE ZONIS FAMILY
374
00:19:28,108 --> 00:19:30,927
CELEBRATED HOLIDAYS TOGETHER.
375
00:19:30,933 --> 00:19:34,373
THEY ATTENDED EACH OTHER'S
FAMILY FUNCTIONS.
376
00:19:34,408 --> 00:19:35,867
- NA ZDOROVIE.
- NA ZDOROVIE.
377
00:19:35,902 --> 00:19:37,032
NA ZDOROVIE.
378
00:19:37,067 --> 00:19:39,832
THE FACT THAT IT WAS
A FAMILY FRIEND,
379
00:19:39,867 --> 00:19:45,127
YET THEY HAD SPOKEN 15 TIMES
DURING A 7-HOUR PERIOD
380
00:19:45,133 --> 00:19:47,798
THE DAY OF THE HOMICIDE
STOOD OUT TO US,
381
00:19:47,833 --> 00:19:51,173
AND WE BECAME VERY INTERESTED
IN MR. GOLDMAN.
382
00:19:51,208 --> 00:19:53,697
**
383
00:19:53,700 --> 00:19:57,198
INVESTIGATORS FOLLOW UP
WITH FAY'S HUSBAND ALEX
384
00:19:57,233 --> 00:20:00,697
FOR ANY INSIGHT INTO HER
RELATIONSHIP WITH PAUL GOLDMAN.
385
00:20:00,700 --> 00:20:04,570
FIRST THING THAT COMES TO
OUR MIND IS EXTRAMARITAL AFFAIR,
386
00:20:04,605 --> 00:20:08,232
SOME TYPE OF SIDE
BUSINESS THEY MIGHT HAVE.
387
00:20:08,267 --> 00:20:12,997
MR. ZONIS, AS YOU CAN SEE,
THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF CONTACT
388
00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:14,630
BETWEEN YOUR WIFE
AND PAUL GOLDMAN.
389
00:20:14,633 --> 00:20:17,050
WELL, THERE'S A LOT
OF CONTACT
390
00:20:17,085 --> 00:20:19,432
BETWEEN EVERYONE
IN OUR FAMILIES.
391
00:20:19,467 --> 00:20:23,767
SO YOU'RE ALL REALLY CLOSE,
AND I GET THAT, BUT, MR. ZONIS,
392
00:20:23,802 --> 00:20:26,232
I HAVE TO ASK YOU THIS.
393
00:20:26,267 --> 00:20:29,127
DO YOU THINK FAY WAS HAVING
AN AFFAIR WITH PAUL?
394
00:20:29,133 --> 00:20:32,632
**
395
00:20:32,667 --> 00:20:35,647
WE ASKED HIM IF THERE
WAS A POSSIBILITY,
396
00:20:35,682 --> 00:20:38,627
IF THERE WAS AN AFFAIR
GOING ON WITH PAUL AND FAY,
397
00:20:38,633 --> 00:20:40,532
AND HE SAID NO.
398
00:20:40,567 --> 00:20:42,627
PAUL GOLDMAN IS A FRIEND.
399
00:20:42,633 --> 00:20:45,516
HE WOULDN'T DO THAT
TO MY FAMILY,
400
00:20:45,551 --> 00:20:48,365
AND HE WOULDN'T
DO THAT TO ME.
401
00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:51,348
FAY'S HUSBAND ALEX
MAY NOT BE ALARMED
402
00:20:51,383 --> 00:20:54,297
BY THE CONTACT BETWEEN
HIS WIFE AND PAUL GOLDMAN,
403
00:20:54,300 --> 00:20:56,130
BUT DETECTIVES ARE.
404
00:20:56,133 --> 00:20:58,032
NOW WE'RE ASKING OURSELVES,
405
00:20:58,067 --> 00:21:00,297
WERE THEY ARGUING WITH
ONE ANOTHER OVER THE PHONE?
406
00:21:00,300 --> 00:21:02,800
WERE THEY PLANNING ON MEETING
ONE ANOTHER LATER?
407
00:21:02,835 --> 00:21:04,700
WE JUST DIDN'T KNOW,
AND WE WANTED TO SPEAK
408
00:21:04,735 --> 00:21:06,900
TO PAUL GOLDMAN
AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.
409
00:21:06,935 --> 00:21:10,132
**
410
00:21:10,167 --> 00:21:13,597
INVESTIGATORS STILL HAVE PLENTY
OF QUESTIONS ABOUT THE CALLS.
411
00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:16,530
THEY ASK PAUL GOLDMAN
AND HIS WIFE IRINA
412
00:21:16,533 --> 00:21:20,603
TO COME TO POLICE HEADQUARTERS,
BUT KEEP THEM SEPARATED.
413
00:21:20,638 --> 00:21:22,900
WELL, FIRST WE WANTED
TO ASCERTAIN THE NATURE
414
00:21:22,935 --> 00:21:25,932
OF PAUL'S RELATIONSHIP
WITH FAY.
415
00:21:25,967 --> 00:21:29,767
WE WANTED TO DETERMINE
IF THERE WAS SOME KIND OF ISSUE
416
00:21:29,802 --> 00:21:33,297
IN THEIR RELATIONSHIP,
OR THE FAMILIES'.
417
00:21:33,300 --> 00:21:36,630
IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT
YOU AND FAY WERE VERY CLOSE.
418
00:21:36,633 --> 00:21:38,950
- IS THAT CORRECT?
- OF COURSE.
419
00:21:38,985 --> 00:21:41,406
YES, WE WERE VERY, VERY CLOSE.
420
00:21:41,441 --> 00:21:43,827
ANYTHING MORE?
ANYTHING PHYSICAL?
421
00:21:43,833 --> 00:21:45,732
NO.
422
00:21:45,767 --> 00:21:48,232
NO, NO, NEVER.
423
00:21:48,267 --> 00:21:50,327
OUR FAMILIES WENT WAY BACK.
424
00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:56,130
WE WANTED TO DETERMINE WHY
HE WOULD HAVE CALLED SOMEONE
425
00:21:56,133 --> 00:22:00,073
THAT WAS A FAMILY FRIEND
15 TIMES IN A PERIOD OF 7 HOURS,
426
00:22:00,108 --> 00:22:03,132
WHICH SEEMED ODD AT THE TIME.
427
00:22:03,167 --> 00:22:05,127
FAY AND ALEX'S
FRIEND PAUL GOLDMAN
428
00:22:05,133 --> 00:22:07,603
OWNS UP TO MAKING THOSE CALLS.
429
00:22:07,638 --> 00:22:09,565
AT LEAST, SOME OF THEM.
430
00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:14,900
I REMEMBER WE TALKED, LIKE,
WHAT, FIVE OR SIX TIMES.
431
00:22:14,935 --> 00:22:17,470
JUST FIVE OR SIX TIMES,
ARE YOU SURE?
432
00:22:17,505 --> 00:22:19,927
YEAH, I'M SURE.
433
00:22:19,933 --> 00:22:21,598
PAUL HAD TOLD US THAT HE WAS
434
00:22:21,633 --> 00:22:23,232
ATTEMPTING TO CONTACT HER...
435
00:22:23,267 --> 00:22:26,097
...IN ORDER TO OBTAIN A MORTGAGE
FOR AN INVESTMENT PROPERTY
436
00:22:26,100 --> 00:22:28,270
THAT HE WAS INTERESTED
IN PURCHASING.
437
00:22:28,305 --> 00:22:29,927
HELLO?
438
00:22:29,933 --> 00:22:32,465
I HAD A LOT OF QUESTIONS.
439
00:22:32,500 --> 00:22:34,800
WELL, I WAS AT WORK,
SO I COULD ONLY TALK
440
00:22:34,835 --> 00:22:37,032
A FEW MINUTES AT A TIME,
441
00:22:37,067 --> 00:22:40,097
THEN ANOTHER QUESTION,
AND THEN ANOTHER PHONE CALL.
442
00:22:40,100 --> 00:22:42,630
**
443
00:22:42,633 --> 00:22:46,173
PAUL TOLD US THAT THE LAST TIME
THAT HE HAD SPOKEN TO FAY
444
00:22:46,208 --> 00:22:49,697
WAS AROUND 5:45 P.M. THAT DAY,
445
00:22:49,700 --> 00:22:53,930
AND THAT FAY HAD TOLD HIM,
"I HAVE SOME GOOD NEWS FOR YOU,"
446
00:22:53,933 --> 00:22:58,730
AND THEN SAID THAT SHE HAD
TO TAKE ANOTHER CALL.
447
00:22:58,765 --> 00:23:03,527
AND THEN, WELL, I GUESS
THAT'S WHEN IT HAPPENED.
448
00:23:03,533 --> 00:23:06,353
HE DID NOT APPEAR
TO BE OVERLY UPSET.
449
00:23:06,388 --> 00:23:09,627
HE WAS NOT SHOWING
ANY STRONG EMOTION
450
00:23:09,662 --> 00:23:12,832
WHEN SPEAKING ABOUT
FAY OR HER DEATH.
451
00:23:12,867 --> 00:23:15,727
SO, PAUL, I NEED YOU TO WALK ME
THROUGH YOUR DAY
452
00:23:15,733 --> 00:23:18,032
THE DAY THAT FAY WAS KILLED.
453
00:23:18,067 --> 00:23:22,127
I WAS AT WORK ALL DAY,
LIKE EVERY DAY,
454
00:23:22,133 --> 00:23:24,750
AND THEN MY WIFE
AND I WENT TO SHOP.
455
00:23:24,785 --> 00:23:27,332
HE SPECIFICALLY TOLD US
THAT THEY WENT
456
00:23:27,367 --> 00:23:30,667
TO A STORE IN NEW JERSEY
AND BOUGHT A RADAR DETECTOR,
457
00:23:30,702 --> 00:23:33,067
AND THAT THEY GONE
TO ANOTHER STORE
458
00:23:33,102 --> 00:23:35,327
AND MADE SOME PURCHASES THERE.
459
00:23:35,333 --> 00:23:37,703
AS PAUL LAYS OUT
THE STORY OF HIS WHEREABOUTS
460
00:23:37,738 --> 00:23:39,765
THE DAY OF THE MURDER,
461
00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:43,500
DETECTIVE ZIELINSKI IS ASKING
A SIMILAR LINE OF QUESTIONS
462
00:23:43,535 --> 00:23:46,232
TO HIS WIFE IRINA
IN THE NEXT ROOM.
463
00:23:46,267 --> 00:23:49,797
WELL, EARLIER THAT DAY I WENT TO
THE HOSPITAL TO VISIT OUR SON.
464
00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:51,530
HE'S VERY SICK.
465
00:23:51,533 --> 00:23:55,803
THE GOLDMANS HAD A SMALL CHILD,
APPROXIMATELY 22 MONTHS OLD,
466
00:23:55,838 --> 00:23:58,270
AND THAT THIS CHILD
HAD BEEN HOSPITALIZED
467
00:23:58,305 --> 00:24:00,827
FOR THE GOOD PORTION
OF ITS LIFE.
468
00:24:00,833 --> 00:24:05,973
IRINA WOULD VISIT WITH THE CHILD
ALMOST ON A DAILY BASIS.
469
00:24:06,008 --> 00:24:09,227
AND HOW ABOUT PAUL?
WHERE WAS HE ALL DAY?
470
00:24:09,233 --> 00:24:10,732
AT WORK.
471
00:24:10,767 --> 00:24:12,627
WHAT ABOUT LATER THAT DAY?
472
00:24:12,633 --> 00:24:14,898
WE WENT SHOPPING.
473
00:24:14,933 --> 00:24:17,573
SHE WAS TELLING US THAT THEY
WERE TOGETHER THAT DAY,
474
00:24:17,608 --> 00:24:20,067
AND THEY WENT SHOPPING
FOR A RADAR DETECTOR,
475
00:24:20,102 --> 00:24:22,597
AND PAUL WENT WITH
HER TO GET MAKEUP,
476
00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:24,900
AND THESE STORES
WERE IN NEW JERSEY.
477
00:24:24,935 --> 00:24:27,032
SAME STORY.
HE WORKED.
478
00:24:27,067 --> 00:24:30,397
THEY WENT SHOPPING, GOT A RADAR
DETECTOR AND SOME MAKEUP.
479
00:24:31,667 --> 00:24:34,297
ALL RIGHT.
480
00:24:34,300 --> 00:24:37,730
THE STORIES MATCH.
GUESS WE'RE CUTTING THEM LOOSE.
481
00:24:37,733 --> 00:24:41,403
OKAY, PAUL.
THANKS FOR YOUR HELP WITH THIS.
482
00:24:41,438 --> 00:24:43,230
IRINA'S WAITING FOR YOU.
483
00:24:43,233 --> 00:24:45,133
I'M GLAD I COULD BE OF HELP.
484
00:24:45,168 --> 00:24:46,465
HEY, PAUL.
485
00:24:46,500 --> 00:24:49,330
WHAT'S, WHAT'S GOING ON
WITH YOUR HAND THERE?
486
00:24:49,333 --> 00:24:52,603
THIS?
IT'S NOTHING, REALLY.
487
00:24:52,638 --> 00:24:54,434
DOESN'T LOOK LIKE NOTHING.
488
00:24:54,469 --> 00:24:56,230
LET'S -- LET'S HAVE A LOOK.
489
00:24:56,233 --> 00:25:03,632
**
490
00:25:03,667 --> 00:25:05,732
HE HAD FAIRLY DEEP WOUNDS,
491
00:25:05,767 --> 00:25:09,667
PARTICULARLY ONE
ON THE JOINT OF HIS FINGER.
492
00:25:09,702 --> 00:25:11,967
WE CLEARLY WOULD WANT HIM
TO EXPLAIN
493
00:25:12,002 --> 00:25:13,897
WHERE THOSE INJURIES CAME FROM.
494
00:25:13,900 --> 00:25:16,430
YOU WANT TO TELL ME
HOW YOU CUT YOUR HAND, PAUL?
495
00:25:16,433 --> 00:25:22,073
**
496
00:25:24,633 --> 00:25:27,673
**
497
00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:32,370
THREE DAYS
AFTER THE STABBING DEATH
498
00:25:32,405 --> 00:25:35,667
OF FAY ZONIS,
HER FRIEND PAUL GOLDMAN,
499
00:25:35,702 --> 00:25:37,867
WHO'S BEEN HIDING
A FRESH INJURY,
500
00:25:37,902 --> 00:25:40,297
COMES UNDER SUSPICION.
501
00:25:40,300 --> 00:25:44,400
LOOKS LIKE YOU'RE GOING TO
NEED SOME STITCHES HERE, PAUL.
502
00:25:44,435 --> 00:25:48,830
THESE LOOKED LIKE CLEAN CUTS
TO TWO OF HIS FINGERS.
503
00:25:48,833 --> 00:25:50,873
THE KIND OF INJURY
OFTEN SUSTAINED
504
00:25:50,908 --> 00:25:53,097
BY A KNIFE-WIELDING ASSAILANT.
505
00:25:53,100 --> 00:25:58,500
THE PERSON DOING THE STABBING
OFTEN HAS HAND INJURIES,
506
00:25:58,535 --> 00:26:01,430
SCRATCHES, CUTS,
ESPECIALLY ON THE JOINTS
507
00:26:01,433 --> 00:26:03,603
OR THE KNUCKLES
OF THEIR FINGERS.
508
00:26:03,638 --> 00:26:05,930
HOW DID IT HAPPEN?
509
00:26:05,933 --> 00:26:08,503
HE HAD TOLD US
THAT HE HAD BEEN AT HOME
510
00:26:08,538 --> 00:26:10,932
CHOPPING WOOD
IN HIS GARAGE
511
00:26:10,967 --> 00:26:14,697
AND HAD HIT HIS HAD WITH AN AXE
AND CAUSED THAT INJURY.
512
00:26:14,700 --> 00:26:18,330
CHOPPING WOOD?
513
00:26:18,333 --> 00:26:20,073
WELL, STUFF HAPPENS, RIGHT?
514
00:26:20,108 --> 00:26:21,897
YEAH, STUFF HAPPENS.
515
00:26:21,900 --> 00:26:25,700
NOW, IF YOU DON'T MIND,
I COULD REALLY USE A SMOKE.
516
00:26:25,735 --> 00:26:27,832
SURE. WE'RE DONE.
517
00:26:27,867 --> 00:26:30,197
PAUL DIDN'T HAVE
ANY CRIMINAL HISTORY,
518
00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:32,265
AND HE DID NOT HAVE ANY WARRANTS
519
00:26:32,300 --> 00:26:34,832
FOR EVEN SO MUCH
AS A TRAFFIC OFFENSE.
520
00:26:34,867 --> 00:26:39,427
THERE WAS NO PROBABLE CAUSE
AT THAT POINT TO DETAIN HIM.
521
00:26:39,433 --> 00:26:41,798
**
522
00:26:41,833 --> 00:26:44,701
OKAY, IRINA, YOU'RE ALL SET.
YOU CAN GO.
523
00:26:44,736 --> 00:26:47,331
PAUL'S WAITING OUTSIDE
HAVING A SMOKE.
524
00:26:47,366 --> 00:26:49,927
JUST ONE LAST THING
BEFORE YOU LEAVE.
525
00:26:49,933 --> 00:26:52,933
IT'S A PRETTY DEEP CUT
ON PAUL'S HAND.
526
00:26:52,968 --> 00:26:54,732
HOW'D THAT HAPPEN?
527
00:26:54,767 --> 00:26:58,527
HE WAS CHOPPING WOOD BY THE
FIREPLACE IN THE LIVING ROOM.
528
00:26:59,733 --> 00:27:01,503
IN THE LIVING ROOM?
529
00:27:01,538 --> 00:27:02,765
YES.
530
00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:05,700
IT WAS COLD OUTSIDE.
531
00:27:05,735 --> 00:27:07,316
OKAY, IRINA.
532
00:27:07,351 --> 00:27:08,897
EXCUSE ME.
533
00:27:08,900 --> 00:27:11,265
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
534
00:27:11,300 --> 00:27:13,165
PAUL AND HIS WIFE
IRINA'S STORIES
535
00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:17,565
RECOUNT THE SAME EVENT,
BUT AT DIFFERENT LOCATIONS.
536
00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:21,300
SHE HAD ADVISED HIM OF THE SAME
STORY OF PAUL CHOPPING WOOD,
537
00:27:21,335 --> 00:27:24,070
BUT THAT OCCURRED IN THE
LIVING ROOM OF THEIR RESIDENCE.
538
00:27:24,105 --> 00:27:26,286
PAUL HAD SAID IT OCCURRED
IN THE GARAGE.
539
00:27:26,321 --> 00:27:28,694
OF COURSE THAT WAS
A RED FLAG TO US
540
00:27:28,729 --> 00:27:31,398
BECAUSE WE HAVE ONE PERSON
TELLING US ONE STORY
541
00:27:31,433 --> 00:27:34,032
AND ANOTHER PERSON
TELLING US A DIFFERENT STORY,
542
00:27:34,067 --> 00:27:37,827
AND THEY WERE SUPPOSEDLY
TOGETHER WHEN THIS HAD OCCURRED.
543
00:27:37,833 --> 00:27:40,132
INVESTIGATORS NOW HAVE
A NEW SUSPECT
544
00:27:40,167 --> 00:27:45,067
IN THE MURDER OF FAY ZONIS --
FAMILY FRIEND PAUL GOLDMAN.
545
00:27:45,102 --> 00:27:48,197
BUT THEY'RE NOT ABOUT
TO TIP THEIR HAT JUST YET.
546
00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:49,932
**
547
00:27:49,967 --> 00:27:51,827
WE DIDN'T WANT HIM
TO THINK
548
00:27:51,833 --> 00:27:54,673
THAT HE WAS A SUSPECT
AT THIS POINT.
549
00:27:54,708 --> 00:27:56,797
WE WANTED HIM TO BE RELAXED
550
00:27:56,800 --> 00:28:01,665
AND TO GO ABOUT HIS LIFE
AS NORMAL AS POSSIBLE.
551
00:28:01,700 --> 00:28:05,270
THEN FAY'S SISTER LUDMILA,
WHO WORKS IN A HAIR SALON,
552
00:28:05,305 --> 00:28:09,797
COMES FORWARD WITH HER OWN
SUSPICIONS ABOUT PAUL GOLDMAN.
553
00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:14,015
FAY CAME TO MY HAIR SALON
ALL THE TIME, LIKE CLOCKWORK.
554
00:28:14,050 --> 00:28:18,230
SHE ALWAYS WANTED THE SAME CHAIR
AND THE SAME STYLIST.
555
00:28:18,233 --> 00:28:21,851
YOU KNOW, IT WAS HER THERAPY.
556
00:28:21,886 --> 00:28:25,470
AND DO YOU KNOW
PAUL GOLDMAN?
557
00:28:25,505 --> 00:28:29,297
UNFORTUNATELY, YES.
558
00:28:29,300 --> 00:28:32,430
YOU COULD TELL THAT SHE DIDN'T
REALLY CARE FOR PAUL GOLDMAN.
559
00:28:32,433 --> 00:28:33,865
SHE THOUGHT THAT PAUL
WAS A LITTLE
560
00:28:33,900 --> 00:28:36,070
TOO CONTROLLING WITH HER SISTER,
AND THAT THERE WAS
561
00:28:36,105 --> 00:28:37,327
A LITTLE MORE THERE...
562
00:28:37,333 --> 00:28:39,050
...THAN WHAT SHOULD
HAVE BEEN THERE.
563
00:28:39,085 --> 00:28:40,767
YOU KNOW, I ALWAYS
FOUND IT STRANGE.
564
00:28:40,802 --> 00:28:43,427
HE'D CALL
WHEN SHE WOULD COME,
565
00:28:43,433 --> 00:28:46,433
AND A LOT OF THE TIMES HE'D CALL
AND ASK IF SHE HAD LEFT.
566
00:28:47,667 --> 00:28:50,667
LUDMILA TOLD US
THAT ON OCCASION,
567
00:28:50,702 --> 00:28:52,632
PAUL WOULD COME WITH HER,
568
00:28:52,667 --> 00:28:54,827
AND ON ONE PARTICULAR OCCASION,
569
00:28:54,833 --> 00:28:57,100
PAUL HAD GONE IN TO USE
THE BATHROOM,
570
00:28:57,135 --> 00:28:59,367
AND FAY HAD SAID
TO HER SISTER THAT,
571
00:28:59,402 --> 00:29:01,227
"HE WON'T LEAVE ME ALONE."
572
00:29:01,233 --> 00:29:02,773
SHE SAID, "I CAN'T STAND IT.
573
00:29:02,808 --> 00:29:04,697
HE'S ALWAYS CHECKING UP ON ME."
574
00:29:04,700 --> 00:29:07,070
DID SHE EVER MENTION
ANYTHING ABOUT AN AFFAIR?
575
00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:10,865
NEVER.
576
00:29:10,900 --> 00:29:13,932
IT WAS APPARENT THAT FAY
WAS VERY PRIVATE
577
00:29:13,967 --> 00:29:16,697
BECAUSE EVEN HER SISTER
DIDN'T EVEN KNOW FOR SURE
578
00:29:16,700 --> 00:29:18,830
IF THERE WAS AN AFFAIR GOING ON.
579
00:29:18,833 --> 00:29:21,173
BUT OTHERS
WHO KNEW FAY AND PAUL
580
00:29:21,208 --> 00:29:23,127
HAD SUSPECTED AS MUCH.
581
00:29:23,133 --> 00:29:24,698
NA ZDOROVIE.
582
00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:29,533
MULTIPLE
FAMILY MEMBERS TOLD US
583
00:29:29,568 --> 00:29:31,867
THAT THEY BELIEVED
THAT THEIR RELATIONSHIP
584
00:29:31,902 --> 00:29:34,527
WAS POTENTIALLY
MORE THAN FRIENDS,
585
00:29:34,533 --> 00:29:37,765
AND THAT THERE WAS A RUMOR
AMONG THE COMMUNITY.
586
00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:41,130
MANY PEOPLE TOLD US THAT NOT
ONLY HAD THEY SEEN THEM,
587
00:29:41,133 --> 00:29:46,273
BUT THAT PAUL OR FAY HAD THEN
ASKED THEM NOT TO SAY ANYTHING,
588
00:29:46,308 --> 00:29:47,827
THAT THEY WERE TOGETHER.
589
00:29:47,833 --> 00:29:50,365
RUMORS STARTED PILING UP.
590
00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:53,970
THERE WERE SO MANY STORIES
GOING AROUND ABOUT THEIR AFFAIR
591
00:29:54,005 --> 00:29:56,597
THAT NOBODY REALLY KNOWS,
UP TILL THIS DAY,
592
00:29:56,600 --> 00:29:58,730
WHAT'S TRUE AND WHAT'S NOT.
593
00:29:58,733 --> 00:30:00,733
A RELATIONSHIP
BETWEEN THE TWO OF THEM
594
00:30:00,768 --> 00:30:03,803
COULD BE A MOTIVE IN THIS CASE.
595
00:30:03,838 --> 00:30:12,232
**
596
00:30:12,267 --> 00:30:15,797
AS THE STORIES ABOUT
FAY AND PAUL BEGIN TO PILE UP,
597
00:30:15,832 --> 00:30:19,327
DETECTIVES FIND EVIDENCE THAT
CASTS MORE DOUBT ON THE ALIBI
598
00:30:19,333 --> 00:30:21,583
CREATED BY GOLDMAN
AND HIS WIFE IRINA.
599
00:30:21,618 --> 00:30:24,260
ONE OF THE THINGS WE DID IS,
600
00:30:24,295 --> 00:30:26,912
WE WENT TO THE TWO STORES
IN NEW JERSEY
601
00:30:26,947 --> 00:30:29,530
THAT HE HAD SAID HIM
AND IRINA WERE AT
602
00:30:29,533 --> 00:30:31,503
AT THE TIME OF THE HOMICIDE.
603
00:30:31,538 --> 00:30:33,432
- YOU GOT THEM?
- BOTH OF THEM.
604
00:30:33,467 --> 00:30:37,427
WE SPOKE TO STORE MANAGEMENT
AND ALSO SECURITY,
605
00:30:37,433 --> 00:30:40,573
AND THEY ALLOWED US TO VIEW
A SURVEILLANCE VIDEO
606
00:30:40,608 --> 00:30:42,227
FROM THAT DATE AND TIME.
607
00:30:42,233 --> 00:30:45,665
**
608
00:30:45,700 --> 00:30:47,365
THERE SHE IS, RIGHT ON TIME.
609
00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:49,865
WE WATCHED IRINA
COME INTO THE STORE,
610
00:30:49,900 --> 00:30:52,965
AND SHE WALKED IN ALONE,
AND SHE WALKED AROUND,
611
00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:56,000
AND SHE WAS LOOKING AND TALKING
TO A SALES ASSOCIATE.
612
00:30:57,333 --> 00:30:59,073
NO SIGN OF PAUL.
613
00:30:59,108 --> 00:31:00,532
NO.
614
00:31:00,567 --> 00:31:02,827
LET'S CUE UP THE SECOND
ONE AT THE COUNTER.
615
00:31:02,833 --> 00:31:06,498
**
616
00:31:06,533 --> 00:31:08,398
SHE LEAVES
THE CASH REGISTER.
617
00:31:08,433 --> 00:31:11,473
SHE WALKS DIRECTLY TOWARDS
THE EXIT DOOR OF THE STORE
618
00:31:11,508 --> 00:31:13,427
AND LEAVES
THE STORE ALONE.
619
00:31:13,433 --> 00:31:15,398
SHE'S ALONE AGAIN.
620
00:31:15,433 --> 00:31:17,773
PAUL'S ALIBI
HAS FALLEN APART.
621
00:31:17,808 --> 00:31:20,267
HE LIED ABOUT BEING
IN THE STORE,
622
00:31:20,302 --> 00:31:23,197
AND SO HAS HIS WIFE IRINA.
623
00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:25,230
OUR REACTION WAS THAT THIS GUY
IS BECOMING
624
00:31:25,233 --> 00:31:29,165
A BETTER SUSPECT
THE MORE WE WATCH.
625
00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:33,570
BUT WE STILL DO NOT HAVE ENOUGH
TO GET A WARRANT FOR HIS ARREST
626
00:31:33,605 --> 00:31:35,627
FOR FIRST-DEGREE MURDER.
627
00:31:35,633 --> 00:31:38,633
THAT'S WHEN WE DECIDED,
"LET'S PULL HIS TRASH."
628
00:31:38,668 --> 00:31:40,232
**
629
00:31:40,267 --> 00:31:42,897
WHICH ONE OF YOU
ORDERED LUNCH?
630
00:31:42,900 --> 00:31:44,930
VERY FUNNY.
631
00:31:44,933 --> 00:31:49,232
**
632
00:31:49,267 --> 00:31:52,197
YOU GOT
TO SIGN FOR IT.
633
00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:53,732
TO STRENGTHEN THEIR CASE,
634
00:31:53,767 --> 00:31:56,397
INVESTIGATORS ARRANGE
TO SECRETLY COLLECT
635
00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:58,830
PAUL GOLDMAN'S TRASH
FROM HIS HOME ACROSS THE RIVER
636
00:31:58,833 --> 00:32:01,133
FROM PHILLY IN NEW JERSEY.
637
00:32:04,867 --> 00:32:10,827
IN THE TRASH, WE FOUND GAUZE
USED TO BANDAGE UP HIS HAND.
638
00:32:10,833 --> 00:32:16,098
**
639
00:32:16,133 --> 00:32:18,798
I DON'T BELIEVE IT.
640
00:32:18,833 --> 00:32:21,173
WE FOUND PICTURES OF FAY.
641
00:32:21,208 --> 00:32:22,597
I'LL BE DAMNED.
642
00:32:23,900 --> 00:32:25,565
HE'S DUMPING HIS PHOTOS.
643
00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:29,200
HE WAS TRYING TO DISASSOCIATE
HIMSELF WITH FAY ZONIS.
644
00:32:29,235 --> 00:32:32,600
THIS GUY IS TRYING
TO GET RID OF HIS PAST.
645
00:32:35,133 --> 00:32:37,718
AFTER LOCATING
THESE ITEMS IN THE TRASH,
646
00:32:37,753 --> 00:32:40,303
WE DECIDED NOW IT WAS TIME
TO INTERVIEW PAUL AGAIN
647
00:32:40,338 --> 00:32:41,832
FOR THE SECOND TIME.
648
00:32:41,867 --> 00:32:43,432
PAUL, IT'S DETECTIVE
GROOME AGAIN.
649
00:32:43,467 --> 00:32:45,867
I NEED YOU TO CALL ME BACK
AS SOON AS YOU GET THIS.
650
00:32:45,902 --> 00:32:47,397
WE NEED TO TALK.
651
00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:49,470
IF HE DOESN'T CALL BACK,
652
00:32:49,505 --> 00:32:51,667
MAYBE SHE WILL.
653
00:32:51,702 --> 00:32:53,697
**
654
00:32:53,700 --> 00:32:56,663
PAUL NEVER RESPONDS,
BUT EIGHT DAYS AFTER
655
00:32:56,698 --> 00:32:59,627
SHE AND PAUL FIRST APPEARED
AT THE POLICE STATION,
656
00:32:59,633 --> 00:33:02,073
IRINA RETURNS ALONE.
657
00:33:02,108 --> 00:33:03,527
WHERE'S PAUL?
658
00:33:03,533 --> 00:33:05,065
HE'S ON BUSINESS.
HE'S BUSY.
659
00:33:05,100 --> 00:33:07,330
HE DOESN'T EVEN RETURN
MY PHONE CALLS.
660
00:33:07,333 --> 00:33:09,973
IRINA TOLD ME THAT PAUL
WAS CURRENTLY WORKING
661
00:33:10,008 --> 00:33:12,427
IN WASHINGTON, D.C.,
662
00:33:12,433 --> 00:33:16,303
INSTALLING WINDOWS FOR
THE COMPANY THAT HE WORKED FOR.
663
00:33:16,338 --> 00:33:17,432
WE CONFRONTED HER AND TOLD HER
664
00:33:17,467 --> 00:33:19,227
THAT WHAT SHE HAD
TOLD US WERE LIES,
665
00:33:19,233 --> 00:33:21,065
AND THAT WE HAD
PROVEN THEM TO BE LIES.
666
00:33:21,100 --> 00:33:23,200
DID YOU NOT REALIZE THAT ALL
THE STORES YOU WENT TO
667
00:33:23,235 --> 00:33:25,530
HAD SURVEILLANCE CAMERAS?
668
00:33:25,533 --> 00:33:29,203
NOW IS THE TIME TO TELL US
EVERYTHING, AND YOU KNOW WHY?
669
00:33:29,238 --> 00:33:31,554
BECAUSE THAT LITTLE BOY
WHO'S IN THE HOSPITAL
670
00:33:31,589 --> 00:33:33,832
IS GOING TO NEED HIS MOTHER
FREE AND OUT OF JAIL,
671
00:33:33,867 --> 00:33:36,267
AND IF YOU KEEP LYING, THAT'S
EXACTLY WHERE YOU'RE GOING,
672
00:33:36,302 --> 00:33:38,032
JUST LIKE PAUL.
673
00:33:38,067 --> 00:33:40,927
OKAY, FINE.
I'LL TELL YOU.
674
00:33:40,933 --> 00:33:44,503
SHE SAID, "I LIED TO YOU GUYS
WHEN YOU INTERVIEWED ME."
675
00:33:44,538 --> 00:33:47,302
I CAN'T BELIEVE
THIS IS HAPPENING.
676
00:33:47,337 --> 00:33:50,032
IRINA FINALLY BROKE DOWN
AND CONFESSED
677
00:33:50,067 --> 00:33:54,767
AND SAID THAT PAUL HAD TOLD HER
THAT HE HAD KILLED FAY.
678
00:33:54,802 --> 00:33:58,127
HE CALLED ME, AND HE
TOLD ME WHAT HE HAD DONE.
679
00:33:58,133 --> 00:34:00,773
IT WAS UNBELIEVABLE TO ME.
680
00:34:00,808 --> 00:34:03,227
HE CAME HOME.
681
00:34:03,233 --> 00:34:04,868
I WRAPPED HIS HAND.
682
00:34:04,903 --> 00:34:06,465
HE WAS BLEEDING.
683
00:34:06,500 --> 00:34:10,430
WE HAD NOW SOMEONE TELLING US
THAT PAUL SAID HE DID IT.
684
00:34:10,433 --> 00:34:13,473
IRINA, YOU NEED TO PROTECT
YOURSELF AND YOUR SON.
685
00:34:13,508 --> 00:34:15,802
WHERE'S PAUL?
686
00:34:15,837 --> 00:34:18,097
HE'S GONE.
687
00:34:18,100 --> 00:34:21,830
IRINA TOLD US SHE,
ALONG WITH PAUL'S PARENTS,
688
00:34:21,833 --> 00:34:25,032
HAD TAKEN PAUL TO JFK AIRPORT,
689
00:34:25,067 --> 00:34:29,197
AND THAT THEY HAD
PURCHASED TICKETS TO FRANCE,
690
00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:33,500
AND THAT PAUL'S FATHER HAD
SINCE RETURNED FROM THE TRIP,
691
00:34:33,535 --> 00:34:36,070
BUT PAUL HAD NOT.
692
00:34:37,267 --> 00:34:39,297
**
693
00:34:39,300 --> 00:34:42,330
WE KNEW PAUL GOLDMAN
HAD A SICKLY CHILD
694
00:34:42,333 --> 00:34:43,831
WHO WAS IN THE HOSPITAL.
695
00:34:43,866 --> 00:34:45,330
WE KNEW THAT HE HAD A WIFE
696
00:34:45,333 --> 00:34:48,973
WHO OBVIOUSLY LOVED HIM
ENOUGH TO LIE FOR HIM,
697
00:34:49,008 --> 00:34:50,497
BUT WHAT WE DIDN'T KNOW,
698
00:34:50,500 --> 00:34:51,930
THAT HE WAS GOING TO BE
ABLE TO TURN HIS BACK
699
00:34:51,933 --> 00:34:54,898
ON ALL OF THEM
AND FLEE THE COUNTRY.
700
00:34:54,933 --> 00:34:57,673
WITH PAUL ON THE RUN,
DETECTIVES' BEST CHANCE
701
00:34:57,708 --> 00:35:01,032
OF FINDING HIM RESTS
WITH HIS PARENTS.
702
00:35:01,067 --> 00:35:05,097
WE KNEW THAT WE HAD TO TALK
TO PAUL GOLDMAN'S FATHER
703
00:35:05,100 --> 00:35:06,370
AND MOTHER.
704
00:35:06,405 --> 00:35:09,632
**
705
00:35:09,667 --> 00:35:12,327
DOESN'T LOOK LIKE
ANYONE'S HOME.
706
00:35:12,333 --> 00:35:14,932
**
707
00:35:14,967 --> 00:35:18,497
MR. AND MRS. GOLDMAN,
BUCKS COUNTY DETECTIVES.
708
00:35:18,500 --> 00:35:21,032
**
709
00:35:22,633 --> 00:35:25,773
MR. AND MRS. GOLDMAN,
PLEASE COME TO THE DOOR.
710
00:35:25,808 --> 00:35:28,527
LET'S TAKE A LOOK
AROUND BACK.
711
00:35:28,533 --> 00:35:30,973
NO ANSWER AT THE DOOR
AFTER KNOCKING.
712
00:35:31,008 --> 00:35:32,827
IT'S DARK.
THERE'S NO LIGHTS ON.
713
00:35:32,833 --> 00:35:39,398
**
714
00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:44,930
THERE'S A SMALL
WINDOW, LOOKS LIKE A BATHROOM.
715
00:35:44,933 --> 00:35:47,833
I PUT MY EYE AND LOOK
THROUGH THE LITTLE HOLE
716
00:35:47,868 --> 00:35:49,967
WHERE THE CORD OF THE BLINDS GO,
717
00:35:50,002 --> 00:35:52,067
AND I SEE SOMETHING
ON THE FLOOR.
718
00:35:52,102 --> 00:35:53,897
BOY.
719
00:35:53,900 --> 00:35:56,630
THE TWISTS AND TURNS
THAT WERE ABOUT TO HAPPEN,
720
00:35:56,633 --> 00:35:58,473
NOBODY COULD HAVE
EVER PREDICTED.
721
00:35:58,508 --> 00:36:02,327
**
722
00:36:05,667 --> 00:36:11,927
**
723
00:36:11,933 --> 00:36:14,073
WITH MURDER SUSPECT
PAUL GOLDMAN
724
00:36:14,108 --> 00:36:16,332
ALLEGEDLY HIDING OUT IN FRANCE,
725
00:36:16,367 --> 00:36:19,427
HIS PARENTS ARE THE BEST CHANCE
AT TRACKING HIM DOWN,
726
00:36:19,433 --> 00:36:21,903
BUT IT MIGHT BE TOO LATE.
727
00:36:21,938 --> 00:36:27,365
**
728
00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:29,565
CLEAR BACK HERE.
729
00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:31,600
WE GOT INSIDE THE HOME.
730
00:36:31,635 --> 00:36:33,100
NO ONE HAD ANSWERED THE DOOR.
731
00:36:33,135 --> 00:36:38,032
**
732
00:36:38,067 --> 00:36:40,467
WENT INTO THE BATHROOM,
OPENED UP THE BATHROOM DOOR,
733
00:36:40,502 --> 00:36:42,067
WHICH WAS CLOSED...
734
00:36:42,102 --> 00:36:46,032
**
735
00:36:46,067 --> 00:36:49,097
...AND WE SEE...
736
00:36:49,100 --> 00:36:51,330
PAUL'S FATHER AND MOTHER,
737
00:36:51,333 --> 00:36:53,665
BOTH DECEASED
738
00:36:53,700 --> 00:36:57,730
WHERE THEY
HAD COMMITTED SUICIDE
739
00:36:57,733 --> 00:37:01,433
BY SLICING THEIR WRISTS
WITH STRAIGHT RAZORS.
740
00:37:01,468 --> 00:37:05,198
**
741
00:37:05,233 --> 00:37:08,603
PAUL GOLDMAN'S PARENTS
ARE GONE.
742
00:37:08,638 --> 00:37:11,365
MIKE, LOOK.
BUT THEY LEFT A NOTE.
743
00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:14,270
"CRIME COMMITTED BY OUR SON
IS OUR SHAME,
744
00:37:14,305 --> 00:37:15,727
"AND WE CANNOT LIVE WITH IT,
745
00:37:15,733 --> 00:37:18,032
AND OUR LIFE DOESN'T
MAKE SENSE ANYMORE."
746
00:37:18,067 --> 00:37:20,267
THEY ESSENTIALLY SAID
THAT THEY HAD DONE THIS
747
00:37:20,302 --> 00:37:23,467
BECAUSE THEY WERE
ASHAMED OF THEIR SON
748
00:37:23,502 --> 00:37:25,732
COMMITTING THIS HOMICIDE.
749
00:37:25,767 --> 00:37:29,497
"WE ASK NOT TO BLAME ANYONE IN
OUR DECISION TO COMMIT SUICIDE."
750
00:37:29,500 --> 00:37:32,500
THEY THOUGHT
THE ONLY WAY TO RESOLVE THIS
751
00:37:32,535 --> 00:37:34,101
THIS WAS TO TAKE
THEIR OWN LIVES
752
00:37:34,136 --> 00:37:35,632
BECAUSE THEY WERE SO ASHAMED.
753
00:37:35,667 --> 00:37:38,727
ALL RIGHT.
LET'S BACK OUT OF HERE.
754
00:37:38,733 --> 00:37:41,433
AND WE'RE SAYING TO OURSELVES,
755
00:37:41,468 --> 00:37:43,600
"THERE'S THREE PEOPLE DEAD NOW.
756
00:37:43,635 --> 00:37:45,698
LIKE, WHEN IS THIS
GOING TO STOP?"
757
00:37:45,733 --> 00:37:48,680
BUT THEIR SUSPECT,
PAUL GOLDMAN,
758
00:37:48,715 --> 00:37:51,627
IS STILL ON THE RUN
AND VERY MUCH ALIVE.
759
00:37:51,633 --> 00:37:53,065
IT UPPED THE STAKES.
760
00:37:53,100 --> 00:37:56,532
WE HAD TO NOW GO TO
A DIFFERENT LEVEL
761
00:37:56,567 --> 00:37:59,767
AND GET INVOLVED IN
AN INTERNATIONAL MANHUNT.
762
00:37:59,802 --> 00:38:01,597
**
763
00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:04,200
WHILE THE MOTIVE
FOR FAY'S MURDER IS UNCLEAR,
764
00:38:04,235 --> 00:38:06,065
AFTER HIS PARENTS' SUICIDE,
765
00:38:06,100 --> 00:38:09,032
PAUL'S GUILT IS
NO LONGER IN QUESTION,
766
00:38:09,067 --> 00:38:11,327
AND INVESTIGATORS
ARE CONFIDENT THEY NOW KNOW
767
00:38:11,333 --> 00:38:14,132
WHAT HAPPENED THE NIGHT
OF FAY'S MURDER.
768
00:38:14,167 --> 00:38:16,867
PAUL WAS ACTUALLY
STALKING HER THAT DAY.
769
00:38:16,902 --> 00:38:18,427
BECAUSE WE SAW
IN HIS PHONE RECORDS
770
00:38:18,433 --> 00:38:20,733
THAT HE WAS OVER THERE
ALL AFTERNOON,
771
00:38:20,768 --> 00:38:22,873
USING THE PHONE, CALLING HER.
772
00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:27,230
WE FIGURED THAT WHEN HE SAW FAY
773
00:38:27,233 --> 00:38:30,832
AND THE OTHER MALE EMPLOYEE
LEAVE THE BUILDING,
774
00:38:30,867 --> 00:38:33,067
ONCE THE MALE EMPLOYEE
PULLED OUT ON THE STREET ROAD
775
00:38:33,102 --> 00:38:34,697
AND LEFT...
776
00:38:36,667 --> 00:38:40,132
...JUST LEAVING FAY
ALONE IN THE DRIVEWAY,
777
00:38:40,167 --> 00:38:43,867
THAT AT THAT POINT HE SAW HIS
OPPORTUNITY TO CONFRONT FAY...
778
00:38:49,633 --> 00:38:50,973
WHY WON'T YOU RETURN
MY PHONE CALLS?
779
00:38:51,008 --> 00:38:52,217
I'VE BEEN CALLING YOU ALL DAY!
780
00:38:52,252 --> 00:38:53,427
WHAT THE HELL
ARE YOU DOING HERE?
781
00:38:53,433 --> 00:38:55,251
- I WANT TO TALK TO YOU, FAY.
- SHH!
782
00:38:55,286 --> 00:38:57,070
SOMEONE CAN HEAR YOU.
GO INSIDE.
783
00:38:57,105 --> 00:38:59,327
GO INSIDE!
784
00:38:59,333 --> 00:39:01,303
...AND THAT THEY WENT BACK
INTO THE BUILDING
785
00:39:01,338 --> 00:39:04,100
TO CONTINUE THEIR --
THE CONVERSATION.
786
00:39:04,135 --> 00:39:07,330
**
787
00:39:07,333 --> 00:39:10,633
AND AT SOME POINT,
AN ARGUMENT ENSUED.
788
00:39:10,668 --> 00:39:12,032
FAY, FAY, FAY!
789
00:39:12,067 --> 00:39:14,032
I CAN'T BELIEVE YOU CAME HERE
AT MY WORK PLACE.
790
00:39:14,067 --> 00:39:15,797
FAY, LISTEN TO ME FOR A SECOND.
791
00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:17,430
- YOU'RE TALKING CRAZY RIGHT NOW.
- LISTEN!
792
00:39:17,433 --> 00:39:18,751
YOU'RE SCARING THE HELL
OUT OF ME!
793
00:39:18,786 --> 00:39:20,070
BECAUSE YOU WON'T
RETURN MY CALLS!
794
00:39:20,105 --> 00:39:21,227
PLEASE STOP YELLING AT ME!
795
00:39:21,233 --> 00:39:23,468
WE HAD BEEN TOLD BY
VARIOUS PEOPLE
796
00:39:23,503 --> 00:39:25,665
THAT WERE FAMILIAR
WITH PAUL GOLDMAN
797
00:39:25,700 --> 00:39:28,630
THAT HE HAD HAD TROUBLE
CONTROLLING HIS ANGER.
798
00:39:28,633 --> 00:39:30,365
- YOU NEED TO CALM DOWN.
- LEAVE ME ALONE!
799
00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:33,800
THE KNIFE WAS NEXT TO THE CAKE
FOR A CELEBRATION.
800
00:39:33,835 --> 00:39:35,370
HE MUST HAVE GRABBED THE KNIFE.
801
00:39:35,405 --> 00:39:37,067
A STRUGGLE ENSUED.
802
00:39:37,102 --> 00:39:40,397
STOP! NO!
803
00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:42,032
STOP!
804
00:39:42,067 --> 00:39:44,127
HE STABBED HER MULTIPLE TIMES.
805
00:39:44,133 --> 00:39:46,232
NO!
806
00:39:46,267 --> 00:39:48,947
HE BANGED HER HEAD ON THE FLOOR.
807
00:39:48,982 --> 00:39:51,627
THE AUTOPSY REPORT SAID
AT LEAST TWO TO THREE
808
00:39:51,633 --> 00:39:54,303
BLUNT TRAUMA FORCE
ON HER FACE
809
00:39:54,338 --> 00:39:56,270
RESULTED IN FAY'S DEATH.
810
00:39:56,305 --> 00:40:02,232
**
811
00:40:05,302 --> 00:40:08,932
**
812
00:40:08,967 --> 00:40:10,827
SEVEN DAYS
AFTER HIS PARENTS' BODIES
813
00:40:10,833 --> 00:40:13,130
WERE DISCOVERED,
FRENCH INVESTIGATORS GET A LEAD
814
00:40:13,165 --> 00:40:15,427
ON PAUL GOLDMAN'S WHEREABOUTS...
815
00:40:15,433 --> 00:40:17,398
...AND MAKE AN ARREST.
816
00:40:17,433 --> 00:40:20,898
THE FRENCH AUTHORITIES
LOCATED GOLDMAN
817
00:40:20,933 --> 00:40:24,733
IN GRENOBLE, FRANCE,
AND TOOK GOLDMAN INTO CUSTODY.
818
00:40:24,768 --> 00:40:27,432
**
819
00:40:27,467 --> 00:40:29,327
THERE WAS
NO DOUBT IN OUR MIND
820
00:40:29,333 --> 00:40:32,832
THAT HE WAS GOING TO BE
BROUGHT TO JUSTICE.
821
00:40:32,867 --> 00:40:35,827
WE WERE CONFIDENT THAT WE WERE
GOING TO BE ABLE TO
822
00:40:35,833 --> 00:40:40,098
BRING HIM BACK TO
BUCKS COUNTY TO FACE TRIAL.
823
00:40:40,133 --> 00:40:43,873
BUT WHILE PROSECUTORS ARE
PREPARING EXTRADITION PAPERS,
824
00:40:43,908 --> 00:40:47,227
THEY RECEIVE ONE FINAL BLOW
TO THEIR CASE.
825
00:40:50,268 --> 00:40:52,598
**
826
00:40:52,633 --> 00:40:56,233
THEN THE FATEFUL DAY CAME,
AND WHEN WE WERE ADVISED THAT
827
00:40:56,268 --> 00:40:58,298
HE HAD COMMITTED SUICIDE
828
00:40:58,333 --> 00:41:03,073
BY HANGING IN A PRISON
CELL IN FRANCE.
829
00:41:03,108 --> 00:41:07,632
**
830
00:41:07,667 --> 00:41:10,467
EVERYBODY FOUND OUT
THAT HE WAS NOT GOING TO BE
831
00:41:10,502 --> 00:41:12,732
HELD RESPONSIBLE.
832
00:41:12,767 --> 00:41:15,427
PEOPLE WERE OUTRAGED.
PEOPLE WERE MAD.
833
00:41:15,433 --> 00:41:17,032
WHAT REALLY HAPPENED?
834
00:41:17,067 --> 00:41:21,697
I THINK ONLY TWO PEOPLE KNOW,
AND THAT'S FAY AND PAUL.
835
00:41:21,700 --> 00:41:23,600
HONESTLY, THE WAY IT MADE
EVERYBODY FEEL
836
00:41:23,635 --> 00:41:26,865
WAS COMPLETE
AND TOTAL DEVASTATION.
837
00:41:26,900 --> 00:41:29,332
BUT BY THE TIME
WE STARTED COUNTING BODIES,
838
00:41:29,367 --> 00:41:34,497
WE NOW HAD FOUR DEAD BODIES,
ALL BECAUSE OF PAUL GOLDMAN.
839
00:41:34,500 --> 00:41:38,132
PAUL GOLDMAN IS
WHERE HE NEEDS TO BE.
840
00:41:38,167 --> 00:41:39,897
BUT AT THE SAME TIME,
IT WOULD HAVE BEEN BETTER
841
00:41:39,900 --> 00:41:43,170
IF IT WAS DONE THROUGH
THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM.
842
00:41:43,205 --> 00:41:45,232
**
843
00:41:45,267 --> 00:41:47,727
WITH PAUL AND FAY BOTH DEAD,
844
00:41:47,733 --> 00:41:49,573
HER FAMILY AND FRIENDS
WILL NEVER KNOW
845
00:41:49,608 --> 00:41:52,827
THE TRUE REASON FOR HER MURDER.
846
00:41:52,833 --> 00:41:55,980
PEOPLE STARTED
CONCENTRATING ON IRINA.
847
00:41:56,015 --> 00:41:59,127
A LOT OF PEOPLE IN
THE COMMUNITY BLAMED HER.
848
00:41:59,133 --> 00:42:00,703
IRINA WAS CHARGED
WITH HINDERING
849
00:42:00,738 --> 00:42:03,430
THE APPREHENSION
OF PAUL GOLDMAN.
850
00:42:03,433 --> 00:42:07,533
SHE PLEAD GUILTY AND RECEIVED
6 TO 111/2 MONTHS
851
00:42:07,568 --> 00:42:10,447
IN THE COUNTY PRISON,
WHICH SHE DID.
852
00:42:10,482 --> 00:42:13,327
WE SHOULD ALL REMEMBER FAY
853
00:42:13,333 --> 00:42:14,632
FOR BEING THE VICTIM
854
00:42:14,667 --> 00:42:17,667
THAT NEVER GOT JUSTICE
FOR HER CRIME,
855
00:42:17,702 --> 00:42:20,832
AND I THINK IT WAS MORE, LIKE,
856
00:42:20,867 --> 00:42:23,797
TRAGIC RUSSIAN STORY
OUT OF A BOOK,
857
00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:27,070
BUT THIS IS A TRUE STORY.
IT'S NOT A NOVEL.
858
00:42:27,105 --> 00:42:31,467
**
859
00:42:32,305 --> 00:43:32,613
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