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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:05,433 --> 00:00:09,432 ** 2 00:00:09,467 --> 00:00:13,397 IN 2003, THERE WERE 391 HOMICIDES 3 00:00:13,400 --> 00:00:16,165 IN METROPOLITAN PHILADELPHIA. 4 00:00:16,200 --> 00:00:19,700 THIS IS THE STORY OF ONE OF THOSE CASES. 5 00:00:19,735 --> 00:00:23,930 ** 6 00:00:30,467 --> 00:00:34,497 HI. I'VE GOT GOOD NEWS FOR YOU, BUT I CAN'T TALK HERE. 7 00:00:34,500 --> 00:00:37,532 I -- I'LL TALK TO YOU LATER, OKAY? 8 00:00:37,567 --> 00:00:40,432 FAY AND HER FAMILY CAME HERE FROM MOLDOVA, 9 00:00:40,467 --> 00:00:43,927 THE FORMER SOVIET UNION, TO ACHIEVE THE AMERICAN DREAM. 10 00:00:43,933 --> 00:00:46,273 THANK YOU. BYE. 11 00:00:48,767 --> 00:00:51,367 FAY, I HAVE NEVER SAID THIS TO A COWORKER, 12 00:00:51,402 --> 00:00:53,932 BUT YOU HAVE TO STOP WORKING SO HARD. 13 00:00:53,967 --> 00:00:56,997 I KNOW, I KNOW, ILIA, BUT THERE'S SO MUCH TO DO. 14 00:00:57,000 --> 00:01:00,630 COME ON. I'LL WALK YOU OUT. 15 00:01:00,633 --> 00:01:04,973 FAY WAS A VERY RESPECTED PERSON IN THE COMMUNITY. 16 00:01:05,008 --> 00:01:09,497 SHE WAS THE GLUE OF EVERYBODY THAT KNEW HER. 17 00:01:09,500 --> 00:01:10,830 HAVE A GOOD NIGHT, ILIA. 18 00:01:10,833 --> 00:01:12,032 - YOU TOO, FAY. - BYE. 19 00:01:12,067 --> 00:01:15,527 FAY WAS SUPPOSED TO VISIT HER FATHER. 20 00:01:15,533 --> 00:01:18,273 HER HUSBAND AND HER SON WERE WAITING FOR HER 21 00:01:18,308 --> 00:01:20,127 TO GO TO THE HOSPITAL. 22 00:01:20,133 --> 00:01:23,432 ** 23 00:01:23,467 --> 00:01:26,327 FAY DID NOT MAKE IT TO VISIT HER FATHER THAT NIGHT. 24 00:01:26,333 --> 00:01:28,201 HELP ME! HELP ME! 25 00:01:30,105 --> 00:01:38,132 ** 26 00:01:46,133 --> 00:01:48,432 ** 27 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:56,074 28 00:02:00,333 --> 00:02:05,765 ** 29 00:02:05,800 --> 00:02:08,770 PLEASE LEAVE YOUR MESSAGE. 30 00:02:08,805 --> 00:02:10,532 FAY, THIS IS MESSAGE THREE. 31 00:02:10,567 --> 00:02:12,227 WE'RE GETTING A LITTLE WORRIED NOW, 32 00:02:12,233 --> 00:02:14,165 SO IF YOU GOT TIED UP AT WORK, 33 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:17,430 PLEASE JUST CALL AND SAY SO, OKAY? 34 00:02:17,433 --> 00:02:20,032 LET ME TRY HER AT WORK AGAIN. 35 00:02:20,067 --> 00:02:21,967 FAY ZONIS' FAMILY WERE GOING TO MEET 36 00:02:22,002 --> 00:02:24,867 AT NAZARETH HOSPITAL IN PHILADELPHIA 37 00:02:24,902 --> 00:02:26,497 TO VISIT FAY'S FATHER, 38 00:02:26,500 --> 00:02:29,170 WHO WAS RECUPERATING IN THE HOSPITAL. 39 00:02:29,205 --> 00:02:30,927 FAY'S HUSBAND ALEX, 40 00:02:30,933 --> 00:02:34,073 SON EUGENE, AND NEPHEW MICHAEL WAIT FOR HER 41 00:02:34,108 --> 00:02:37,297 AND BECOME INCREASINGLY CONCERNED. 42 00:02:37,300 --> 00:02:40,085 SHE DOESN'T COME TO THE HOSPITAL FOR HER OWN FATHER? 43 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:42,832 SHE DOESN'T ANSWER HER PHONE? SHE DOESN'T CALL BACK? 44 00:02:42,867 --> 00:02:46,227 IT'S NOT LIKE HER, BUT I'M SURE THERE'S A GOOD EXPLANATION. 45 00:02:46,233 --> 00:02:48,198 ** 46 00:02:48,233 --> 00:02:51,398 THEY WERE A VERY CARING AND CLOSE FAMILY. 47 00:02:51,433 --> 00:02:54,373 IF SHE DIDN'T SHOW UP WHERE SHE WAS SUPPOSED TO, 48 00:02:54,408 --> 00:02:55,932 SOMETHING IS WRONG. 49 00:02:55,967 --> 00:02:59,682 TWO HOURS GO BY, BUT SHE DOESN'T APPEAR. 50 00:02:59,717 --> 00:03:03,397 GENE, WHY DON'T YOU AND MICHAEL GO DOWN TO THE OFFICE 51 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:06,470 AND SEE IF YOU CAN FIND HER, PLEASE? 52 00:03:06,505 --> 00:03:07,697 GO. 53 00:03:07,700 --> 00:03:16,265 ** 54 00:03:16,300 --> 00:03:19,970 FAY'S OFFICE WAS IN UPPER SOUTHAMPTON TOWNSHIP, 55 00:03:20,005 --> 00:03:22,967 APPROXIMATELY 7 MILES FROM NORTHEAST PHILADELPHIA. 56 00:03:23,002 --> 00:03:27,032 ** 57 00:03:27,067 --> 00:03:29,727 SEE, WORKING LATE. I TOLD YOU. 58 00:03:29,733 --> 00:03:33,568 THEY SAW THE VAN, AND THAT WAS KIND OF A RELIEF. 59 00:03:33,603 --> 00:03:37,403 FAY IS AT WORK. SHE'S STILL AT WORK, THE VAN IS THERE. 60 00:03:40,133 --> 00:03:43,065 ** 61 00:03:43,100 --> 00:03:45,400 MOM, YOU HERE? 62 00:03:45,435 --> 00:03:48,132 ** 63 00:03:48,167 --> 00:03:50,830 MOM? 64 00:04:00,467 --> 00:04:05,482 MOM? 65 00:04:05,517 --> 00:04:10,497 ** 66 00:04:10,500 --> 00:04:12,130 MOM! 67 00:04:12,133 --> 00:04:14,732 ** 68 00:04:14,767 --> 00:04:18,627 THEY FOUND FAY ON THE FLOOR, AND THERE WAS BLOOD EVERYWHERE. 69 00:04:18,633 --> 00:04:22,673 SHE WAS BRUTALLY, BRUTALLY STABBED. 70 00:04:27,667 --> 00:04:29,132 DETECTIVE FRANK GROOME 71 00:04:29,167 --> 00:04:31,732 WITH THE UPPER SOUTHAMPTON TOWNSHIP POLICE, 72 00:04:31,767 --> 00:04:34,297 FROM PHILADELPHIA'S NEIGHBORING BUCKS COUNTY, 73 00:04:34,300 --> 00:04:37,465 IS ASSIGNED TO THE CASE. 74 00:04:37,500 --> 00:04:41,785 UPPER SOUTHAMPTON IS TYPICALLY A VERY SAFE COMMUNITY, 75 00:04:41,820 --> 00:04:46,032 BUT WHEN A HOMICIDE DOES OCCUR, IT'S AN ALL HANDS ON DECK. 76 00:04:46,067 --> 00:04:50,067 GROOME'S PARTNER MARK ZIELINSKI IS ALREADY ON SCENE. 77 00:04:50,102 --> 00:04:52,527 FAMILY? 78 00:04:52,533 --> 00:04:56,132 YEAH, THEY FOUND HER. 79 00:04:56,167 --> 00:04:59,127 THE TWO MALES THAT HAD MADE THE 911 CALL WERE STILL ON SCENE 80 00:04:59,133 --> 00:05:02,465 STANDING OUTSIDE AND WERE VISIBLY UPSET. 81 00:05:02,500 --> 00:05:04,765 OBVIOUSLY, YOU'RE SYMPATHETIC TO THEIR NEEDS, 82 00:05:04,800 --> 00:05:08,070 AND YOU'RE SYMPATHETIC TO THEIR FEELINGS AT THIS POINT. 83 00:05:08,105 --> 00:05:09,697 LET'S TAKE A LOOK INSIDE. 84 00:05:11,300 --> 00:05:15,670 THE DETECTIVES ENTER THE OFFICE TO VIEW FAY'S BODY. 85 00:05:18,668 --> 00:05:20,098 ** 86 00:05:21,408 --> 00:05:23,432 ** 87 00:05:26,133 --> 00:05:28,103 WATCH THE BLOOD, DETECTIVES. 88 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:32,100 WE COULD SEE IMMEDIATELY A FEMALE'S BODY 89 00:05:32,135 --> 00:05:34,770 LAYING FACE UP ON THE FLOOR. 90 00:05:34,805 --> 00:05:38,427 ** 91 00:05:38,433 --> 00:05:43,133 THERE WERE STAB WOUNDS ABOUT THE FACE AND NECK AND CHEST. 92 00:05:43,168 --> 00:05:45,733 THERE WAS A POOL OF BLOOD TO THE SIDE OF HER HEAD. 93 00:05:45,768 --> 00:05:50,798 ** 94 00:05:50,833 --> 00:05:52,932 SEE A KNIFE ANYWHERE? 95 00:05:52,967 --> 00:05:58,197 NO, BUT THERE'S MORE THAN JUST BLOOD HERE. 96 00:05:58,200 --> 00:06:01,165 THERE WAS ALSO SOME BRUISING 97 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:05,532 TO THE LIPS AND SIDE OF THE FACE. 98 00:06:05,567 --> 00:06:10,127 MAYBE THE VICTIM HAD BEEN POUNDED ON THE FLOOR. 99 00:06:10,133 --> 00:06:12,398 LOOK HOW HER JACKET IS. 100 00:06:12,433 --> 00:06:14,365 THE JACKET WAS HALF OFF OF HER ARM. 101 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:17,730 IT LOOKED LIKE SHE HAD BEEN EITHER TAKING OFF HER JACKET 102 00:06:17,733 --> 00:06:19,765 OR PUTTING ON HER JACKET. 103 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:21,530 LIKE HE JUMPED HER WHEN SHE WALKED IN. 104 00:06:21,533 --> 00:06:25,233 COULD BE...OR HE WALKED IN WITH HER. 105 00:06:25,268 --> 00:06:27,098 ** 106 00:06:27,133 --> 00:06:28,898 DETECTIVES ARE PUZZLED. 107 00:06:28,933 --> 00:06:31,403 THEY'VE BEEN TOLD THE VICTIM LEFT THE BUILDING, 108 00:06:31,438 --> 00:06:32,730 BUT THEY WONDER -- 109 00:06:32,733 --> 00:06:35,818 HAD SHE RETURNED AND THEN BEEN ASSAULTED? 110 00:06:35,853 --> 00:06:38,461 WE DIDN'T SEE ANYTHING DISTURBED, 111 00:06:38,496 --> 00:06:41,070 CLEARLY UPSET, LIKE DRAWERS PULLED OUT, 112 00:06:41,105 --> 00:06:43,327 THINGS OF THAT NATURE. 113 00:06:43,333 --> 00:06:46,733 COWORKER SHE LEFT THE BUILDING WITH IS ON HIS WAY DOWN. 114 00:06:46,768 --> 00:06:49,633 HE SAYS THEY DON'T KEEP ANY CASH HERE. 115 00:06:49,668 --> 00:06:51,198 NOTHING TO TAKE, REALLY. 116 00:06:51,233 --> 00:06:52,598 AT THIS POINT IN THE INVESTIGATION, 117 00:06:52,633 --> 00:06:55,773 WE DIDN'T KNOW WHETHER ROBBERY WAS THE MOTIVE OR NOT. 118 00:06:55,808 --> 00:06:57,667 WITH THE STAB WOUNDS, OBVIOUSLY WE WERE LOOKING 119 00:06:57,702 --> 00:06:59,632 FOR SOME TYPE OF CUTTING INSTRUMENT, 120 00:06:59,667 --> 00:07:02,327 AND WE COULD FIND NO KNIFE IN THE OFFICE. 121 00:07:02,333 --> 00:07:04,433 THAT WOULD MAKE US THINK THAT THE ACTOR 122 00:07:04,468 --> 00:07:05,832 IN THIS PARTICULAR CRIME 123 00:07:05,867 --> 00:07:09,032 TOOK THE WEAPON WITH THEM WHEN THEY LEFT THE SCENE. 124 00:07:09,067 --> 00:07:13,067 ALTHOUGH THE KILLER HAD TRIED TO COVER HIS TRACKS, 125 00:07:13,102 --> 00:07:15,167 HE DID LEAVE SOMETHING BEHIND. 126 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:19,465 WHAT DO WE GOT HERE? 127 00:07:19,500 --> 00:07:21,648 THERE WAS A PIECE OF BLACK PLASTIC 128 00:07:21,683 --> 00:07:23,797 LAYING ON THE FLOOR TO THE SIDE OF THE BODY. 129 00:07:23,800 --> 00:07:26,230 IF IT WAS A KNIFE HANDLE, IT COULD HAVE BROKEN OFF 130 00:07:26,233 --> 00:07:28,065 IN THE FORCE OF THE STRUGGLE 131 00:07:28,100 --> 00:07:31,330 AND BEEN LEFT LYING ON THE FLOOR. 132 00:07:31,333 --> 00:07:35,873 IF THIS IS THE HANDLE, WHERE'S THE KNIFE? 133 00:07:38,133 --> 00:07:39,773 DETECTIVES KNOW THEY NEED TO LOCATE 134 00:07:39,808 --> 00:07:41,432 THE REST OF THE MURDER WEAPON, 135 00:07:41,467 --> 00:07:43,897 BUT IN THE MEANTIME THEY TURN THEIR ATTENTION 136 00:07:43,900 --> 00:07:45,630 TO FAY'S MINIVAN 137 00:07:45,633 --> 00:07:49,165 AND A CLEARER PICTURE OF THE CRIME COMES INTO FOCUS. 138 00:07:49,200 --> 00:07:52,870 THE VAN WAS JUST STOPPED IN THE DRIVEWAY ALONGSIDE THE STEPS 139 00:07:52,905 --> 00:07:54,597 THAT LEAD UP TO THE SIDE OF THE BUILDING. 140 00:07:57,300 --> 00:07:58,832 LOOKS LIKE SHE WAS IN A HURRY. 141 00:07:58,867 --> 00:08:00,697 JUST PARKED THE CAR AND JUMPED OUT? 142 00:08:00,700 --> 00:08:04,400 KIND OF LOOKED LIKE SOMEBODY WAS EITHER LEAVING WORK 143 00:08:04,435 --> 00:08:06,330 AND HAD TO RUN BACK IN THE OFFICE REAL QUICK, 144 00:08:06,333 --> 00:08:08,332 THEY MAY HAVE FORGOTTEN SOMETHING, 145 00:08:08,367 --> 00:08:11,497 OR THEY MAY HAVE BEEN CALLED BACK INTO THE OFFICE. 146 00:08:13,805 --> 00:08:16,597 PURSE IS HERE. 147 00:08:16,600 --> 00:08:19,165 I CAN SEE THE WALLET STILL IN IT. 148 00:08:19,200 --> 00:08:23,570 THERE WAS A WOMAN'S PURSE INSIDE BETWEEN THE TWO FRONT SEATS, 149 00:08:23,605 --> 00:08:26,227 AND THERE WAS A CELL PHONE ON THE DASHBOARD. 150 00:08:28,433 --> 00:08:34,403 IT APPEARED FROM LOOKING AT HER CAR THAT IT WASN'T A ROBBERY. 151 00:08:34,438 --> 00:08:37,300 WHICH MEANS SOMEONE WANTED FAY ZONIS DEAD 152 00:08:37,335 --> 00:08:38,630 AND NOTHING ELSE. 153 00:08:38,633 --> 00:08:41,132 ** 154 00:08:41,167 --> 00:08:43,167 EVERYBODY WANT SOME CAKE? 155 00:08:43,202 --> 00:08:46,727 LISTEN. THIS IS WHAT I'M HERE FOR. 156 00:08:46,733 --> 00:08:50,203 FAY'S DEATH DEVASTATED EVERYONE THAT KNEW HER. 157 00:08:50,238 --> 00:08:53,532 FAY'S COWORKERS LOVED HER. 158 00:08:53,567 --> 00:08:55,397 HER FAMILY AND FRIENDS LOVED HER. 159 00:08:55,400 --> 00:08:58,265 THERE'S, LIKE, JAM EVERYWHERE. 160 00:08:58,300 --> 00:09:01,200 SHE WAS LOVED BY THE COMMUNITY AND VERY WELL-KNOWN, 161 00:09:01,235 --> 00:09:04,230 SO IF YOU DIDN'T KNOW HER, YOU KNEW OF HER. 162 00:09:04,233 --> 00:09:05,665 - CHEERS, EVERYBODY. - CHEERS. 163 00:09:05,700 --> 00:09:08,930 AND FAY WAS THE TRUSTED FACE OF THIS COMMUNITY. 164 00:09:08,933 --> 00:09:12,703 NO ONE COULD HAVE EXPECTED ANYTHING LIKE THIS. 165 00:09:12,738 --> 00:09:16,800 OKAY, CHEERS. 166 00:09:22,167 --> 00:09:24,467 WITH ROBBERY AN UNLIKELY MOTIVE, 167 00:09:24,502 --> 00:09:26,767 DETECTIVES MUST ENTERTAIN ALL POSSIBILITIES 168 00:09:26,802 --> 00:09:28,832 OF WHY FAY WAS MURDERED. 169 00:09:28,867 --> 00:09:31,827 AT THIS POINT, WE DON'T KNOW IF IT'S A FAMILY MEMBER, 170 00:09:31,833 --> 00:09:34,032 IF IT'S A FRIEND, IF IT'S A COWORKER 171 00:09:34,067 --> 00:09:36,367 OR IF IT'S JUST SOMEONE THAT CAME IN OFF THE STREET. 172 00:09:38,067 --> 00:09:40,227 FAY'S COWORKER IS CALLED IN FOR QUESTIONING, 173 00:09:40,233 --> 00:09:42,903 AND SPEAKS WITH DETECTIVES ONLY A FEW HOURS 174 00:09:42,938 --> 00:09:45,230 AFTER HE LAST SAW HER ALIVE. 175 00:09:45,233 --> 00:09:47,215 COULD YOU WALK ME THROUGH YOUR DAY TODAY? 176 00:09:47,250 --> 00:09:49,197 ANYTHING UNUSUAL HAPPEN AT THE OFFICE? 177 00:09:49,200 --> 00:09:53,532 NO, NOTHING REALLY. REGULAR DAY. 178 00:09:53,567 --> 00:09:56,067 THAT COWORKER TOLD US THAT THEY HAD BOTH 179 00:09:56,102 --> 00:09:58,597 LEFT THE BUILDING AT THE SAME TIME 180 00:09:58,600 --> 00:09:59,965 AND HAD LOCKED UP 181 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:03,413 AND HAD BOTH WALKED TO THEIR CAR AT AROUND 6:00. 182 00:10:03,448 --> 00:10:06,827 DID YOU NOTICE ANYTHING UNUSUAL WHEN YOU LEFT? 183 00:10:06,833 --> 00:10:08,933 ANYONE SUSPICIOUS? 184 00:10:08,968 --> 00:10:10,998 NO, NOTHING LIKE THAT. 185 00:10:11,033 --> 00:10:14,298 SO WE KNOW SHE HAD MADE IT OUT TO HER CAR 186 00:10:14,333 --> 00:10:17,233 BEFORE BEING EITHER BROUGHT BACK INTO THE BUSINESS 187 00:10:17,268 --> 00:10:19,198 OR GOING BACK INTO THE BUSINESS. 188 00:10:19,233 --> 00:10:21,651 DO YOU KNOW IF FAY WAS HAVING TROUBLE WITH ANYONE? 189 00:10:21,686 --> 00:10:24,070 IS THAT SOMETHING THAT SHE WOULD SPEAK TO YOU ABOUT? 190 00:10:24,105 --> 00:10:26,397 YES. SHE WOULD TALK TO ME ABOUT ANYTHING, 191 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:29,132 BUT SHE NEVER DID. 192 00:10:29,167 --> 00:10:31,527 BUT AS DETECTIVES ARE GETTING THEIR INVESTIGATION 193 00:10:31,533 --> 00:10:32,998 UP AND RUNNING... 194 00:10:33,033 --> 00:10:35,503 ...THERE'S A DEVELOPMENT ABOUT A MILE DOWN THE ROAD 195 00:10:35,538 --> 00:10:37,730 THAT GETS THEIR ATTENTION. 196 00:10:37,733 --> 00:10:40,533 WHILE WE WERE INTERVIEWING THE COWORKER WITNESS, 197 00:10:40,568 --> 00:10:43,633 WE GOT A CALL FROM ONE OF THE POLICE OFFICERS 198 00:10:43,668 --> 00:10:45,917 OUT ON THE STREET. 199 00:10:45,952 --> 00:10:48,132 930 TO DISPATCH. 200 00:10:48,167 --> 00:10:51,897 APPARENTLY, HE HAD STOPPED A MOTOR VEHICLE 201 00:10:51,932 --> 00:10:55,627 AND LEARNED THAT THE CAR WAS REPORTED STOLEN. 202 00:10:55,633 --> 00:10:58,173 GO AHEAD, 930. WE GOT A MOTOR VEHICLE STOPPED. 203 00:10:58,208 --> 00:11:01,632 BROWN CHEVY CAVALIER, PENNSY PLATE. 204 00:11:01,667 --> 00:11:03,897 WE WANTED TO KNOW WHERE HE WAS COMING FROM. 205 00:11:07,505 --> 00:11:11,232 ** 206 00:11:11,267 --> 00:11:13,067 DO YOU KNOW WHY WE STOPPED YOU? 207 00:11:13,102 --> 00:11:14,432 YEAH. 208 00:11:14,467 --> 00:11:16,127 YOU'RE A COP. 209 00:11:18,533 --> 00:11:22,173 HE HAD WHAT APPEARED TO BE HUMAN BLOOD ON HIS PANTS. 210 00:11:22,208 --> 00:11:24,927 I GOT BLOOD ON HIS PANTS. CALL FOR BACKUP. 211 00:11:24,933 --> 00:11:28,931 SO IN OUR LINE OF WORK, COINCIDENCES ARE VERY RARE, 212 00:11:28,966 --> 00:11:32,930 AND WE IMMEDIATELY BECAME VERY INTERESTED IN HIM 213 00:11:32,933 --> 00:11:34,065 AS A SUSPECT. 214 00:11:34,100 --> 00:11:35,332 GET OUT OF THE CAR. 215 00:11:35,367 --> 00:11:37,397 KEEP YOUR HANDS WHERE I CAN SEE THEM. 216 00:11:37,400 --> 00:11:40,300 DISPATCH, THROW ME MORE UNITS. I GOT SUSPECT AT GUNPOINT. 217 00:11:40,335 --> 00:11:42,370 DO IT NOW. 218 00:11:42,405 --> 00:11:45,797 ** 219 00:11:47,633 --> 00:11:55,232 ** 220 00:11:55,267 --> 00:11:57,627 A FEW HOURS AFTER FAY ZONIS 221 00:11:57,633 --> 00:12:00,073 WAS FOUND STABBED TO DEATH IN HER OFFICE 222 00:12:00,108 --> 00:12:02,297 JUST OUTSIDE PHILADELPHIA, 223 00:12:02,300 --> 00:12:06,100 POLICE HAVE PULLED OVER A MAN DRIVING A STOLEN CAR. 224 00:12:06,135 --> 00:12:07,265 GET OUT OF THE CAR! 225 00:12:07,300 --> 00:12:09,230 KEEP YOUR HANDS WHERE I CAN SEE THEM. 226 00:12:09,233 --> 00:12:12,973 THE OFFICER WAS TALKING TO HIM AND NOTICED BLOOD ON HIS PANTS, 227 00:12:13,008 --> 00:12:16,497 SO HE IMMEDIATELY CONTACTED US AND TOLD US 228 00:12:16,500 --> 00:12:18,032 THAT HE WOULD BE BRINGING THIS PERSON 229 00:12:18,067 --> 00:12:21,967 BACK TO THE POLICE STATION FOR FURTHER INTERVIEW. 230 00:12:22,002 --> 00:12:24,932 ** 231 00:12:24,967 --> 00:12:27,647 BUCKS COUNTY DETECTIVE MIKE MOSINIAK 232 00:12:27,682 --> 00:12:30,327 JOINS DETECTIVE GROOME TO QUESTION THEIR SUSPECT, 233 00:12:30,333 --> 00:12:33,232 A MAN NAMED RAY ARCHIBALD. 234 00:12:33,267 --> 00:12:35,827 SO YOU'RE DRIVING A STOLEN CAR, RAY. 235 00:12:35,833 --> 00:12:37,898 YOU'VE GOT BLOOD ON YOUR PANTS. 236 00:12:37,933 --> 00:12:40,073 AND TONIGHT, A WOMAN GETS STABBED ABOUT A MILE AWAY 237 00:12:40,108 --> 00:12:41,627 FROM WHERE YOU GOT PULLED OVER. 238 00:12:41,633 --> 00:12:43,565 WHAT? 239 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:45,630 YOU GOT TO BE KIDDING ME, RIGHT? 240 00:12:45,633 --> 00:12:47,865 THAT AIN'T GOT NOTHING TO DO WITH ME. 241 00:12:47,900 --> 00:12:52,730 HE TOLD US THE BLOOD ON HIS PANTS WAS A FIGHT 242 00:12:52,733 --> 00:12:55,973 THAT HE HAD GOTTEN INTO SEVERAL DAYS PRIOR. 243 00:12:56,008 --> 00:12:58,497 AND I WAS AT HOME TONIGHT. ASK MY MOM. 244 00:12:58,500 --> 00:13:00,265 HE HAD GOTTEN IN AN ARGUMENT WITH HER, 245 00:13:00,300 --> 00:13:03,970 AND HE HAD DEPARTED THE HOUSE ANGRILY DURING THAT ARGUMENT. 246 00:13:04,005 --> 00:13:06,497 HIS MOTHER THEN CALLED THE POLICE AND REPORTED 247 00:13:06,500 --> 00:13:07,948 THAT HE HAD TAKEN HER VEHICLE. 248 00:13:07,983 --> 00:13:09,397 I SWEAR, MAN, 249 00:13:09,400 --> 00:13:10,630 I AIN'T GOT NOTHING TO DO WITH THAT. 250 00:13:10,633 --> 00:13:12,073 HOLD THAT THOUGHT, RAY. I DIDN'T KILL THAT LADY. 251 00:13:12,108 --> 00:13:14,297 - I WASN'T THERE. - HOLD THAT THOUGHT. 252 00:13:14,300 --> 00:13:17,600 DETECTIVE GROOME IS INTERRUPTED BY HIS COLLEAGUE IN THE HALLWAY, 253 00:13:17,635 --> 00:13:19,432 DETECTIVE MARK ZIELINSKI. 254 00:13:19,467 --> 00:13:23,432 - WHAT'S UP? - GOT SOMETHING FROM RAY'S CAR. 255 00:13:23,467 --> 00:13:27,827 UNDERNEATH THE SEAT OF THE CAR, WE FOUND A KNIFE. 256 00:13:27,833 --> 00:13:31,903 AND BECAUSE OF THE STAB WOUNDS THAT THE VICTIM HAD, 257 00:13:31,938 --> 00:13:34,070 THIS WAS SOMEWHAT INTERESTING TO US. 258 00:13:34,105 --> 00:13:36,197 THIS IS EVEN BETTER. 259 00:13:36,200 --> 00:13:39,032 ** 260 00:13:39,067 --> 00:13:40,767 RAY ARCHIBALD IS WANTED FOR MORE 261 00:13:40,802 --> 00:13:43,197 THAN JUST A STOLEN CAR. 262 00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:44,930 HE WAS WANTED IN CONNECTION 263 00:13:44,933 --> 00:13:48,232 WITH A DRY CLEANER ROBBERY IN MONTGOMERY COUNTY. 264 00:13:48,267 --> 00:13:52,497 HE WAS ALSO WANTED IN CONNECTION WITH A ROBBERY IN BUCKS COUNTY. 265 00:13:55,467 --> 00:13:57,567 THAT LOOK FAMILIAR? 266 00:13:57,602 --> 00:13:59,632 NOPE. 267 00:13:59,667 --> 00:14:01,732 WELL, IT SHOULD. 268 00:14:01,767 --> 00:14:05,497 IT SEEMS YOU HAVE A THING FOR KNIVES, RAY. 269 00:14:05,500 --> 00:14:06,932 WE'RE NOT IN THE COINCIDENCE BUSINESS. 270 00:14:06,967 --> 00:14:10,397 WE'RE IN THE FACT BUSINESS, AND THE FACTS WERE THAT 271 00:14:10,400 --> 00:14:12,232 HE HAD BEEN WANTED FOR KNIFEPOINT ROBBERIES, 272 00:14:12,267 --> 00:14:14,267 HE HAD BLOOD ON HIS PANTS... 273 00:14:14,302 --> 00:14:16,567 ...AND HE HAD BEEN DRIVING THROUGH THE AREA 274 00:14:16,602 --> 00:14:18,332 AFTER THE CRIME HAD OCCURRED. 275 00:14:18,367 --> 00:14:20,867 IT'S QUITE POSSIBLE THAT THIS WAS OUR SUSPECT. 276 00:14:22,067 --> 00:14:24,927 RAY, STAND UP. 277 00:14:24,933 --> 00:14:27,203 TAKE YOUR SHIRT OFF. 278 00:14:27,238 --> 00:14:29,330 WHAT? 279 00:14:29,333 --> 00:14:33,103 DUE TO THE DEFENSIVE WOUNDS ON FAY ZONIS' BODY, 280 00:14:33,138 --> 00:14:35,430 POLICE BELIEVE SHE PUT UP A FIGHT. 281 00:14:35,433 --> 00:14:38,032 IF RAY ARCHIBALD IS THE KILLER, 282 00:14:38,067 --> 00:14:40,732 HE MAY HAVE THE WOUNDS TO PROVE IT. 283 00:14:40,767 --> 00:14:43,897 YOU CAN DO IT NOW, OR I CAN BOOK YOU IN WHILE I GET A WARRANT. 284 00:14:43,900 --> 00:14:51,230 ** 285 00:14:52,908 --> 00:15:00,797 ** 286 00:15:00,800 --> 00:15:04,470 THOUGHT YOU SAID YOU GOT INTO A FIGHT A FEW NIGHTS AGO. 287 00:15:04,505 --> 00:15:06,432 I WON. 288 00:15:06,467 --> 00:15:08,197 WE FIGURED IF THIS PARTICULAR INDIVIDUAL 289 00:15:08,200 --> 00:15:10,532 HAD STRUGGLED WITH OUR VICTIM, 290 00:15:10,567 --> 00:15:13,727 THERE WOULD HAVE BEEN SOME TYPE OF WOUNDS ON THE BODY, 291 00:15:13,733 --> 00:15:16,565 AND THIS PARTICULAR PERSON HAD NONE. 292 00:15:16,600 --> 00:15:19,270 LOOK. YOU GOT ME FOR ALL THE OTHER STUFF, 293 00:15:19,305 --> 00:15:21,497 BUT FOR THIS MURDER, 294 00:15:21,500 --> 00:15:23,730 I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE HELL YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. 295 00:15:23,733 --> 00:15:25,532 HE TOLD US THAT HE WAS INVOLVED 296 00:15:25,567 --> 00:15:29,227 WITH THE SERIES OF ROBBERIES AND BURGLARIES IN THE AREA, 297 00:15:29,233 --> 00:15:32,565 BUT HE HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS HOMICIDE. 298 00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:36,333 IT'S NOT JUST A LACK OF WOUNDS THAT DOESN'T FIT. 299 00:15:36,368 --> 00:15:40,067 TESTING CONFIRMS THE BLOOD ON RAY'S PANTS IS NOT FAY'S, 300 00:15:40,102 --> 00:15:42,332 AND HIS MOTHER BACKS UP HIS STORY. 301 00:15:42,367 --> 00:15:46,697 HE WAS WITH HER AT THE TIME THE MURDER LIKELY OCCURRED. 302 00:15:46,700 --> 00:15:48,750 AS IT TURNED OUT, THIS INDIVIDUAL 303 00:15:48,785 --> 00:15:50,765 HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THE HOMICIDE. 304 00:15:50,800 --> 00:15:54,630 RAY ARCHIBALD IS CLEARED OF ANY INVOLVEMENT IN FAY'S MURDER. 305 00:15:54,633 --> 00:16:03,032 ** 306 00:16:03,067 --> 00:16:05,627 DETECTIVES MUST CONSIDER THOSE CLOSEST TO FAY 307 00:16:05,633 --> 00:16:07,932 AS POSSIBLE SUSPECTS. 308 00:16:07,967 --> 00:16:10,427 ALTHOUGH HE SEEMS DEEPLY BEREAVED, 309 00:16:10,433 --> 00:16:14,232 FAY'S HUSBAND ALEX ZONIS IS QUESTIONED. 310 00:16:14,267 --> 00:16:16,227 WE NEED YOU TO WALK US THROUGH WHAT HAPPENED. 311 00:16:17,933 --> 00:16:21,373 WELL, WE WERE ALL SUPPOSED TO MEET AT THE HOSPITAL. 312 00:16:21,408 --> 00:16:25,297 WE TRIED TO REACH HER AT WORK AROUND THE TIME 313 00:16:25,300 --> 00:16:26,732 SHE WAS GOING TO LEAVE, 314 00:16:26,767 --> 00:16:29,432 BUT SHE NEVER PICKED UP THE PHONE. 315 00:16:29,467 --> 00:16:34,032 ALEX HAD ATTEMPTED TO CONTACT HER AROUND 6:00 P.M., 316 00:16:34,067 --> 00:16:37,327 WHICH WAS THE TIME THAT SHE WAS SUPPOSED TO BE DEPARTING WORK, 317 00:16:37,333 --> 00:16:41,903 AND THAT HE HAD CALLED HER SEVERAL TIMES WITH NO RESPONSE. 318 00:16:41,938 --> 00:16:44,365 SO WE DECIDED TO GO AHEAD 319 00:16:44,400 --> 00:16:45,665 BECAUSE WE THOUGHT SHE WAS DELAYED 320 00:16:45,700 --> 00:16:51,470 AND THAT SHE WOULD MEET US LATER AT THE HOSPITAL. 321 00:16:51,505 --> 00:16:54,427 SO YOU'RE SAYING YOU WERE EITHER AT HOME 322 00:16:54,433 --> 00:16:56,273 OR AT THE HOSPITAL, NOWHERE ELSE? 323 00:16:56,308 --> 00:16:57,427 THAT'S IT? 324 00:16:57,433 --> 00:16:59,565 THAT'S IT. 325 00:16:59,600 --> 00:17:03,600 AT THAT TIME, EVERYONE IS A SUSPECT, 326 00:17:03,635 --> 00:17:05,430 EVERYONE WE SPEAK TO, 327 00:17:05,433 --> 00:17:08,573 SO WE WEREN'T ELIMINATING ANYONE AT THAT POINT. 328 00:17:08,608 --> 00:17:10,397 WHAT ABOUT YOU AND FAY? 329 00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:13,530 WHAT DO YOU MEAN? 330 00:17:13,533 --> 00:17:16,933 ANY TROUBLE WITH THE MARRIAGE, ANY FIGHTING? 331 00:17:16,968 --> 00:17:20,398 WE HAD OUR MOMENTS, LIKE EVERYONE. 332 00:17:20,433 --> 00:17:24,065 AND HE TOLD US THAT HE AND FAY HAD SEPARATED TWICE, 333 00:17:24,100 --> 00:17:28,230 ONCE BACK IN THE SOVIET UNION AND AGAIN IN PHILADELPHIA. 334 00:17:28,233 --> 00:17:29,498 THEY STAYED IN THE HOME. 335 00:17:29,533 --> 00:17:33,098 THEY WERE JUST SEPARATED AS HUSBAND AND WIFE. 336 00:17:33,133 --> 00:17:37,203 ALEX TELLS THEM HE AND FAY HAD SINCE RECONCILED. 337 00:17:37,238 --> 00:17:39,570 MR. ZONIS, WE JUST HAVE TO CHECK EVERYONE 338 00:17:39,605 --> 00:17:42,067 AND EVERYTHING IN CASES LIKE THIS. 339 00:17:42,102 --> 00:17:44,232 I UNDERSTAND. 340 00:17:44,267 --> 00:17:48,047 WE DID SOME BACKGROUND INVESTIGATION ON ALEX ZONIS 341 00:17:48,082 --> 00:17:51,827 AND DETERMINED THAT HIS STORY WAS CORRECT AND HONEST. 342 00:17:51,833 --> 00:17:56,298 ** 343 00:17:56,333 --> 00:17:58,132 TWO DAYS AFTER THE MURDER, 344 00:17:58,167 --> 00:18:01,117 STILL SEARCHING FOR A SUSPECT AND A MOTIVE, 345 00:18:01,152 --> 00:18:04,067 POLICE RECEIVE FAY ZONIS' CELL PHONE RECORDS, 346 00:18:04,102 --> 00:18:05,964 LOOKING FOR ANY POSSIBLE LEADS. 347 00:18:05,999 --> 00:18:07,827 ALL RIGHT. CHECK THIS OUT. 348 00:18:07,833 --> 00:18:10,703 THERE'S A LOT OF CALLS HERE WITH THE SAME NUMBER. 349 00:18:12,800 --> 00:18:15,330 AND WE TOOK NOTE THAT SHE HAD COMMUNICATED 350 00:18:15,333 --> 00:18:17,298 WITH ONE PARTICULAR PHONE NUMBER 351 00:18:17,333 --> 00:18:20,873 AT LEAST 15 TIMES THAT DAY, THE DAY LEADING UP TO HER DEATH. 352 00:18:20,908 --> 00:18:23,497 LET'S FIND OUT WHO'S CALLING FAY. 353 00:18:23,500 --> 00:18:26,500 ** 354 00:18:28,833 --> 00:18:36,265 ** 355 00:18:36,300 --> 00:18:38,300 INVESTIGATORS HAVE GOTTEN AHOLD 356 00:18:38,335 --> 00:18:40,230 OF FAY ZONIS' CELL PHONE RECORDS 357 00:18:40,233 --> 00:18:42,203 TO SEE WHO FAY WAS TALKING TO IN THE DAYS 358 00:18:42,238 --> 00:18:45,370 AND HOURS LEADING UP TO HER MURDER. 359 00:18:45,405 --> 00:18:46,827 AND SEE THERE. 360 00:18:46,833 --> 00:18:49,273 IT'S ALMOST ON THE HOUR, EVERY HOUR. 361 00:18:49,308 --> 00:18:51,627 ONE, TWO, THREE RIGHT IN A ROW. 362 00:18:51,633 --> 00:18:54,183 ALL TO THE SAME NUMBER. 363 00:18:54,218 --> 00:18:56,733 YEAH, THE SAME ONE. 364 00:18:57,933 --> 00:19:00,216 LET'S FIND OUT WHO'S CALLING FAY. 365 00:19:00,251 --> 00:19:02,465 POLICE TRACK THE NUMBER 366 00:19:02,500 --> 00:19:05,430 TO A FRIEND OF THE ZONIS FAMILY NAMED PAUL GOLDMAN. 367 00:19:05,433 --> 00:19:08,903 PAUL AND HIS WIFE IRINA WERE ALSO PART OF PHILADELPHIA'S 368 00:19:08,938 --> 00:19:10,832 RUSSIAN COMMUNITY. 369 00:19:10,867 --> 00:19:13,832 WHEN FAY FIRST EMIGRATED TO AMERICA, 370 00:19:13,867 --> 00:19:16,967 SHE WAS TEACHING COMPUTER CLASSES TO RUSSIAN IMMIGRANTS, 371 00:19:17,002 --> 00:19:20,127 AND PAUL BECAME ONE OF HER STUDENTS. 372 00:19:20,133 --> 00:19:22,233 THEN THEIR FAMILIES BECAME FRIENDS. 373 00:19:24,433 --> 00:19:28,073 THE GOLDMAN FAMILY AND THE ZONIS FAMILY 374 00:19:28,108 --> 00:19:30,927 CELEBRATED HOLIDAYS TOGETHER. 375 00:19:30,933 --> 00:19:34,373 THEY ATTENDED EACH OTHER'S FAMILY FUNCTIONS. 376 00:19:34,408 --> 00:19:35,867 - NA ZDOROVIE. - NA ZDOROVIE. 377 00:19:35,902 --> 00:19:37,032 NA ZDOROVIE. 378 00:19:37,067 --> 00:19:39,832 THE FACT THAT IT WAS A FAMILY FRIEND, 379 00:19:39,867 --> 00:19:45,127 YET THEY HAD SPOKEN 15 TIMES DURING A 7-HOUR PERIOD 380 00:19:45,133 --> 00:19:47,798 THE DAY OF THE HOMICIDE STOOD OUT TO US, 381 00:19:47,833 --> 00:19:51,173 AND WE BECAME VERY INTERESTED IN MR. GOLDMAN. 382 00:19:51,208 --> 00:19:53,697 ** 383 00:19:53,700 --> 00:19:57,198 INVESTIGATORS FOLLOW UP WITH FAY'S HUSBAND ALEX 384 00:19:57,233 --> 00:20:00,697 FOR ANY INSIGHT INTO HER RELATIONSHIP WITH PAUL GOLDMAN. 385 00:20:00,700 --> 00:20:04,570 FIRST THING THAT COMES TO OUR MIND IS EXTRAMARITAL AFFAIR, 386 00:20:04,605 --> 00:20:08,232 SOME TYPE OF SIDE BUSINESS THEY MIGHT HAVE. 387 00:20:08,267 --> 00:20:12,997 MR. ZONIS, AS YOU CAN SEE, THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF CONTACT 388 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:14,630 BETWEEN YOUR WIFE AND PAUL GOLDMAN. 389 00:20:14,633 --> 00:20:17,050 WELL, THERE'S A LOT OF CONTACT 390 00:20:17,085 --> 00:20:19,432 BETWEEN EVERYONE IN OUR FAMILIES. 391 00:20:19,467 --> 00:20:23,767 SO YOU'RE ALL REALLY CLOSE, AND I GET THAT, BUT, MR. ZONIS, 392 00:20:23,802 --> 00:20:26,232 I HAVE TO ASK YOU THIS. 393 00:20:26,267 --> 00:20:29,127 DO YOU THINK FAY WAS HAVING AN AFFAIR WITH PAUL? 394 00:20:29,133 --> 00:20:32,632 ** 395 00:20:32,667 --> 00:20:35,647 WE ASKED HIM IF THERE WAS A POSSIBILITY, 396 00:20:35,682 --> 00:20:38,627 IF THERE WAS AN AFFAIR GOING ON WITH PAUL AND FAY, 397 00:20:38,633 --> 00:20:40,532 AND HE SAID NO. 398 00:20:40,567 --> 00:20:42,627 PAUL GOLDMAN IS A FRIEND. 399 00:20:42,633 --> 00:20:45,516 HE WOULDN'T DO THAT TO MY FAMILY, 400 00:20:45,551 --> 00:20:48,365 AND HE WOULDN'T DO THAT TO ME. 401 00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:51,348 FAY'S HUSBAND ALEX MAY NOT BE ALARMED 402 00:20:51,383 --> 00:20:54,297 BY THE CONTACT BETWEEN HIS WIFE AND PAUL GOLDMAN, 403 00:20:54,300 --> 00:20:56,130 BUT DETECTIVES ARE. 404 00:20:56,133 --> 00:20:58,032 NOW WE'RE ASKING OURSELVES, 405 00:20:58,067 --> 00:21:00,297 WERE THEY ARGUING WITH ONE ANOTHER OVER THE PHONE? 406 00:21:00,300 --> 00:21:02,800 WERE THEY PLANNING ON MEETING ONE ANOTHER LATER? 407 00:21:02,835 --> 00:21:04,700 WE JUST DIDN'T KNOW, AND WE WANTED TO SPEAK 408 00:21:04,735 --> 00:21:06,900 TO PAUL GOLDMAN AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. 409 00:21:06,935 --> 00:21:10,132 ** 410 00:21:10,167 --> 00:21:13,597 INVESTIGATORS STILL HAVE PLENTY OF QUESTIONS ABOUT THE CALLS. 411 00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:16,530 THEY ASK PAUL GOLDMAN AND HIS WIFE IRINA 412 00:21:16,533 --> 00:21:20,603 TO COME TO POLICE HEADQUARTERS, BUT KEEP THEM SEPARATED. 413 00:21:20,638 --> 00:21:22,900 WELL, FIRST WE WANTED TO ASCERTAIN THE NATURE 414 00:21:22,935 --> 00:21:25,932 OF PAUL'S RELATIONSHIP WITH FAY. 415 00:21:25,967 --> 00:21:29,767 WE WANTED TO DETERMINE IF THERE WAS SOME KIND OF ISSUE 416 00:21:29,802 --> 00:21:33,297 IN THEIR RELATIONSHIP, OR THE FAMILIES'. 417 00:21:33,300 --> 00:21:36,630 IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT YOU AND FAY WERE VERY CLOSE. 418 00:21:36,633 --> 00:21:38,950 - IS THAT CORRECT? - OF COURSE. 419 00:21:38,985 --> 00:21:41,406 YES, WE WERE VERY, VERY CLOSE. 420 00:21:41,441 --> 00:21:43,827 ANYTHING MORE? ANYTHING PHYSICAL? 421 00:21:43,833 --> 00:21:45,732 NO. 422 00:21:45,767 --> 00:21:48,232 NO, NO, NEVER. 423 00:21:48,267 --> 00:21:50,327 OUR FAMILIES WENT WAY BACK. 424 00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:56,130 WE WANTED TO DETERMINE WHY HE WOULD HAVE CALLED SOMEONE 425 00:21:56,133 --> 00:22:00,073 THAT WAS A FAMILY FRIEND 15 TIMES IN A PERIOD OF 7 HOURS, 426 00:22:00,108 --> 00:22:03,132 WHICH SEEMED ODD AT THE TIME. 427 00:22:03,167 --> 00:22:05,127 FAY AND ALEX'S FRIEND PAUL GOLDMAN 428 00:22:05,133 --> 00:22:07,603 OWNS UP TO MAKING THOSE CALLS. 429 00:22:07,638 --> 00:22:09,565 AT LEAST, SOME OF THEM. 430 00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:14,900 I REMEMBER WE TALKED, LIKE, WHAT, FIVE OR SIX TIMES. 431 00:22:14,935 --> 00:22:17,470 JUST FIVE OR SIX TIMES, ARE YOU SURE? 432 00:22:17,505 --> 00:22:19,927 YEAH, I'M SURE. 433 00:22:19,933 --> 00:22:21,598 PAUL HAD TOLD US THAT HE WAS 434 00:22:21,633 --> 00:22:23,232 ATTEMPTING TO CONTACT HER... 435 00:22:23,267 --> 00:22:26,097 ...IN ORDER TO OBTAIN A MORTGAGE FOR AN INVESTMENT PROPERTY 436 00:22:26,100 --> 00:22:28,270 THAT HE WAS INTERESTED IN PURCHASING. 437 00:22:28,305 --> 00:22:29,927 HELLO? 438 00:22:29,933 --> 00:22:32,465 I HAD A LOT OF QUESTIONS. 439 00:22:32,500 --> 00:22:34,800 WELL, I WAS AT WORK, SO I COULD ONLY TALK 440 00:22:34,835 --> 00:22:37,032 A FEW MINUTES AT A TIME, 441 00:22:37,067 --> 00:22:40,097 THEN ANOTHER QUESTION, AND THEN ANOTHER PHONE CALL. 442 00:22:40,100 --> 00:22:42,630 ** 443 00:22:42,633 --> 00:22:46,173 PAUL TOLD US THAT THE LAST TIME THAT HE HAD SPOKEN TO FAY 444 00:22:46,208 --> 00:22:49,697 WAS AROUND 5:45 P.M. THAT DAY, 445 00:22:49,700 --> 00:22:53,930 AND THAT FAY HAD TOLD HIM, "I HAVE SOME GOOD NEWS FOR YOU," 446 00:22:53,933 --> 00:22:58,730 AND THEN SAID THAT SHE HAD TO TAKE ANOTHER CALL. 447 00:22:58,765 --> 00:23:03,527 AND THEN, WELL, I GUESS THAT'S WHEN IT HAPPENED. 448 00:23:03,533 --> 00:23:06,353 HE DID NOT APPEAR TO BE OVERLY UPSET. 449 00:23:06,388 --> 00:23:09,627 HE WAS NOT SHOWING ANY STRONG EMOTION 450 00:23:09,662 --> 00:23:12,832 WHEN SPEAKING ABOUT FAY OR HER DEATH. 451 00:23:12,867 --> 00:23:15,727 SO, PAUL, I NEED YOU TO WALK ME THROUGH YOUR DAY 452 00:23:15,733 --> 00:23:18,032 THE DAY THAT FAY WAS KILLED. 453 00:23:18,067 --> 00:23:22,127 I WAS AT WORK ALL DAY, LIKE EVERY DAY, 454 00:23:22,133 --> 00:23:24,750 AND THEN MY WIFE AND I WENT TO SHOP. 455 00:23:24,785 --> 00:23:27,332 HE SPECIFICALLY TOLD US THAT THEY WENT 456 00:23:27,367 --> 00:23:30,667 TO A STORE IN NEW JERSEY AND BOUGHT A RADAR DETECTOR, 457 00:23:30,702 --> 00:23:33,067 AND THAT THEY GONE TO ANOTHER STORE 458 00:23:33,102 --> 00:23:35,327 AND MADE SOME PURCHASES THERE. 459 00:23:35,333 --> 00:23:37,703 AS PAUL LAYS OUT THE STORY OF HIS WHEREABOUTS 460 00:23:37,738 --> 00:23:39,765 THE DAY OF THE MURDER, 461 00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:43,500 DETECTIVE ZIELINSKI IS ASKING A SIMILAR LINE OF QUESTIONS 462 00:23:43,535 --> 00:23:46,232 TO HIS WIFE IRINA IN THE NEXT ROOM. 463 00:23:46,267 --> 00:23:49,797 WELL, EARLIER THAT DAY I WENT TO THE HOSPITAL TO VISIT OUR SON. 464 00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:51,530 HE'S VERY SICK. 465 00:23:51,533 --> 00:23:55,803 THE GOLDMANS HAD A SMALL CHILD, APPROXIMATELY 22 MONTHS OLD, 466 00:23:55,838 --> 00:23:58,270 AND THAT THIS CHILD HAD BEEN HOSPITALIZED 467 00:23:58,305 --> 00:24:00,827 FOR THE GOOD PORTION OF ITS LIFE. 468 00:24:00,833 --> 00:24:05,973 IRINA WOULD VISIT WITH THE CHILD ALMOST ON A DAILY BASIS. 469 00:24:06,008 --> 00:24:09,227 AND HOW ABOUT PAUL? WHERE WAS HE ALL DAY? 470 00:24:09,233 --> 00:24:10,732 AT WORK. 471 00:24:10,767 --> 00:24:12,627 WHAT ABOUT LATER THAT DAY? 472 00:24:12,633 --> 00:24:14,898 WE WENT SHOPPING. 473 00:24:14,933 --> 00:24:17,573 SHE WAS TELLING US THAT THEY WERE TOGETHER THAT DAY, 474 00:24:17,608 --> 00:24:20,067 AND THEY WENT SHOPPING FOR A RADAR DETECTOR, 475 00:24:20,102 --> 00:24:22,597 AND PAUL WENT WITH HER TO GET MAKEUP, 476 00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:24,900 AND THESE STORES WERE IN NEW JERSEY. 477 00:24:24,935 --> 00:24:27,032 SAME STORY. HE WORKED. 478 00:24:27,067 --> 00:24:30,397 THEY WENT SHOPPING, GOT A RADAR DETECTOR AND SOME MAKEUP. 479 00:24:31,667 --> 00:24:34,297 ALL RIGHT. 480 00:24:34,300 --> 00:24:37,730 THE STORIES MATCH. GUESS WE'RE CUTTING THEM LOOSE. 481 00:24:37,733 --> 00:24:41,403 OKAY, PAUL. THANKS FOR YOUR HELP WITH THIS. 482 00:24:41,438 --> 00:24:43,230 IRINA'S WAITING FOR YOU. 483 00:24:43,233 --> 00:24:45,133 I'M GLAD I COULD BE OF HELP. 484 00:24:45,168 --> 00:24:46,465 HEY, PAUL. 485 00:24:46,500 --> 00:24:49,330 WHAT'S, WHAT'S GOING ON WITH YOUR HAND THERE? 486 00:24:49,333 --> 00:24:52,603 THIS? IT'S NOTHING, REALLY. 487 00:24:52,638 --> 00:24:54,434 DOESN'T LOOK LIKE NOTHING. 488 00:24:54,469 --> 00:24:56,230 LET'S -- LET'S HAVE A LOOK. 489 00:24:56,233 --> 00:25:03,632 ** 490 00:25:03,667 --> 00:25:05,732 HE HAD FAIRLY DEEP WOUNDS, 491 00:25:05,767 --> 00:25:09,667 PARTICULARLY ONE ON THE JOINT OF HIS FINGER. 492 00:25:09,702 --> 00:25:11,967 WE CLEARLY WOULD WANT HIM TO EXPLAIN 493 00:25:12,002 --> 00:25:13,897 WHERE THOSE INJURIES CAME FROM. 494 00:25:13,900 --> 00:25:16,430 YOU WANT TO TELL ME HOW YOU CUT YOUR HAND, PAUL? 495 00:25:16,433 --> 00:25:22,073 ** 496 00:25:24,633 --> 00:25:27,673 ** 497 00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:32,370 THREE DAYS AFTER THE STABBING DEATH 498 00:25:32,405 --> 00:25:35,667 OF FAY ZONIS, HER FRIEND PAUL GOLDMAN, 499 00:25:35,702 --> 00:25:37,867 WHO'S BEEN HIDING A FRESH INJURY, 500 00:25:37,902 --> 00:25:40,297 COMES UNDER SUSPICION. 501 00:25:40,300 --> 00:25:44,400 LOOKS LIKE YOU'RE GOING TO NEED SOME STITCHES HERE, PAUL. 502 00:25:44,435 --> 00:25:48,830 THESE LOOKED LIKE CLEAN CUTS TO TWO OF HIS FINGERS. 503 00:25:48,833 --> 00:25:50,873 THE KIND OF INJURY OFTEN SUSTAINED 504 00:25:50,908 --> 00:25:53,097 BY A KNIFE-WIELDING ASSAILANT. 505 00:25:53,100 --> 00:25:58,500 THE PERSON DOING THE STABBING OFTEN HAS HAND INJURIES, 506 00:25:58,535 --> 00:26:01,430 SCRATCHES, CUTS, ESPECIALLY ON THE JOINTS 507 00:26:01,433 --> 00:26:03,603 OR THE KNUCKLES OF THEIR FINGERS. 508 00:26:03,638 --> 00:26:05,930 HOW DID IT HAPPEN? 509 00:26:05,933 --> 00:26:08,503 HE HAD TOLD US THAT HE HAD BEEN AT HOME 510 00:26:08,538 --> 00:26:10,932 CHOPPING WOOD IN HIS GARAGE 511 00:26:10,967 --> 00:26:14,697 AND HAD HIT HIS HAD WITH AN AXE AND CAUSED THAT INJURY. 512 00:26:14,700 --> 00:26:18,330 CHOPPING WOOD? 513 00:26:18,333 --> 00:26:20,073 WELL, STUFF HAPPENS, RIGHT? 514 00:26:20,108 --> 00:26:21,897 YEAH, STUFF HAPPENS. 515 00:26:21,900 --> 00:26:25,700 NOW, IF YOU DON'T MIND, I COULD REALLY USE A SMOKE. 516 00:26:25,735 --> 00:26:27,832 SURE. WE'RE DONE. 517 00:26:27,867 --> 00:26:30,197 PAUL DIDN'T HAVE ANY CRIMINAL HISTORY, 518 00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:32,265 AND HE DID NOT HAVE ANY WARRANTS 519 00:26:32,300 --> 00:26:34,832 FOR EVEN SO MUCH AS A TRAFFIC OFFENSE. 520 00:26:34,867 --> 00:26:39,427 THERE WAS NO PROBABLE CAUSE AT THAT POINT TO DETAIN HIM. 521 00:26:39,433 --> 00:26:41,798 ** 522 00:26:41,833 --> 00:26:44,701 OKAY, IRINA, YOU'RE ALL SET. YOU CAN GO. 523 00:26:44,736 --> 00:26:47,331 PAUL'S WAITING OUTSIDE HAVING A SMOKE. 524 00:26:47,366 --> 00:26:49,927 JUST ONE LAST THING BEFORE YOU LEAVE. 525 00:26:49,933 --> 00:26:52,933 IT'S A PRETTY DEEP CUT ON PAUL'S HAND. 526 00:26:52,968 --> 00:26:54,732 HOW'D THAT HAPPEN? 527 00:26:54,767 --> 00:26:58,527 HE WAS CHOPPING WOOD BY THE FIREPLACE IN THE LIVING ROOM. 528 00:26:59,733 --> 00:27:01,503 IN THE LIVING ROOM? 529 00:27:01,538 --> 00:27:02,765 YES. 530 00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:05,700 IT WAS COLD OUTSIDE. 531 00:27:05,735 --> 00:27:07,316 OKAY, IRINA. 532 00:27:07,351 --> 00:27:08,897 EXCUSE ME. 533 00:27:08,900 --> 00:27:11,265 THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. 534 00:27:11,300 --> 00:27:13,165 PAUL AND HIS WIFE IRINA'S STORIES 535 00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:17,565 RECOUNT THE SAME EVENT, BUT AT DIFFERENT LOCATIONS. 536 00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:21,300 SHE HAD ADVISED HIM OF THE SAME STORY OF PAUL CHOPPING WOOD, 537 00:27:21,335 --> 00:27:24,070 BUT THAT OCCURRED IN THE LIVING ROOM OF THEIR RESIDENCE. 538 00:27:24,105 --> 00:27:26,286 PAUL HAD SAID IT OCCURRED IN THE GARAGE. 539 00:27:26,321 --> 00:27:28,694 OF COURSE THAT WAS A RED FLAG TO US 540 00:27:28,729 --> 00:27:31,398 BECAUSE WE HAVE ONE PERSON TELLING US ONE STORY 541 00:27:31,433 --> 00:27:34,032 AND ANOTHER PERSON TELLING US A DIFFERENT STORY, 542 00:27:34,067 --> 00:27:37,827 AND THEY WERE SUPPOSEDLY TOGETHER WHEN THIS HAD OCCURRED. 543 00:27:37,833 --> 00:27:40,132 INVESTIGATORS NOW HAVE A NEW SUSPECT 544 00:27:40,167 --> 00:27:45,067 IN THE MURDER OF FAY ZONIS -- FAMILY FRIEND PAUL GOLDMAN. 545 00:27:45,102 --> 00:27:48,197 BUT THEY'RE NOT ABOUT TO TIP THEIR HAT JUST YET. 546 00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:49,932 ** 547 00:27:49,967 --> 00:27:51,827 WE DIDN'T WANT HIM TO THINK 548 00:27:51,833 --> 00:27:54,673 THAT HE WAS A SUSPECT AT THIS POINT. 549 00:27:54,708 --> 00:27:56,797 WE WANTED HIM TO BE RELAXED 550 00:27:56,800 --> 00:28:01,665 AND TO GO ABOUT HIS LIFE AS NORMAL AS POSSIBLE. 551 00:28:01,700 --> 00:28:05,270 THEN FAY'S SISTER LUDMILA, WHO WORKS IN A HAIR SALON, 552 00:28:05,305 --> 00:28:09,797 COMES FORWARD WITH HER OWN SUSPICIONS ABOUT PAUL GOLDMAN. 553 00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:14,015 FAY CAME TO MY HAIR SALON ALL THE TIME, LIKE CLOCKWORK. 554 00:28:14,050 --> 00:28:18,230 SHE ALWAYS WANTED THE SAME CHAIR AND THE SAME STYLIST. 555 00:28:18,233 --> 00:28:21,851 YOU KNOW, IT WAS HER THERAPY. 556 00:28:21,886 --> 00:28:25,470 AND DO YOU KNOW PAUL GOLDMAN? 557 00:28:25,505 --> 00:28:29,297 UNFORTUNATELY, YES. 558 00:28:29,300 --> 00:28:32,430 YOU COULD TELL THAT SHE DIDN'T REALLY CARE FOR PAUL GOLDMAN. 559 00:28:32,433 --> 00:28:33,865 SHE THOUGHT THAT PAUL WAS A LITTLE 560 00:28:33,900 --> 00:28:36,070 TOO CONTROLLING WITH HER SISTER, AND THAT THERE WAS 561 00:28:36,105 --> 00:28:37,327 A LITTLE MORE THERE... 562 00:28:37,333 --> 00:28:39,050 ...THAN WHAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN THERE. 563 00:28:39,085 --> 00:28:40,767 YOU KNOW, I ALWAYS FOUND IT STRANGE. 564 00:28:40,802 --> 00:28:43,427 HE'D CALL WHEN SHE WOULD COME, 565 00:28:43,433 --> 00:28:46,433 AND A LOT OF THE TIMES HE'D CALL AND ASK IF SHE HAD LEFT. 566 00:28:47,667 --> 00:28:50,667 LUDMILA TOLD US THAT ON OCCASION, 567 00:28:50,702 --> 00:28:52,632 PAUL WOULD COME WITH HER, 568 00:28:52,667 --> 00:28:54,827 AND ON ONE PARTICULAR OCCASION, 569 00:28:54,833 --> 00:28:57,100 PAUL HAD GONE IN TO USE THE BATHROOM, 570 00:28:57,135 --> 00:28:59,367 AND FAY HAD SAID TO HER SISTER THAT, 571 00:28:59,402 --> 00:29:01,227 "HE WON'T LEAVE ME ALONE." 572 00:29:01,233 --> 00:29:02,773 SHE SAID, "I CAN'T STAND IT. 573 00:29:02,808 --> 00:29:04,697 HE'S ALWAYS CHECKING UP ON ME." 574 00:29:04,700 --> 00:29:07,070 DID SHE EVER MENTION ANYTHING ABOUT AN AFFAIR? 575 00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:10,865 NEVER. 576 00:29:10,900 --> 00:29:13,932 IT WAS APPARENT THAT FAY WAS VERY PRIVATE 577 00:29:13,967 --> 00:29:16,697 BECAUSE EVEN HER SISTER DIDN'T EVEN KNOW FOR SURE 578 00:29:16,700 --> 00:29:18,830 IF THERE WAS AN AFFAIR GOING ON. 579 00:29:18,833 --> 00:29:21,173 BUT OTHERS WHO KNEW FAY AND PAUL 580 00:29:21,208 --> 00:29:23,127 HAD SUSPECTED AS MUCH. 581 00:29:23,133 --> 00:29:24,698 NA ZDOROVIE. 582 00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:29,533 MULTIPLE FAMILY MEMBERS TOLD US 583 00:29:29,568 --> 00:29:31,867 THAT THEY BELIEVED THAT THEIR RELATIONSHIP 584 00:29:31,902 --> 00:29:34,527 WAS POTENTIALLY MORE THAN FRIENDS, 585 00:29:34,533 --> 00:29:37,765 AND THAT THERE WAS A RUMOR AMONG THE COMMUNITY. 586 00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:41,130 MANY PEOPLE TOLD US THAT NOT ONLY HAD THEY SEEN THEM, 587 00:29:41,133 --> 00:29:46,273 BUT THAT PAUL OR FAY HAD THEN ASKED THEM NOT TO SAY ANYTHING, 588 00:29:46,308 --> 00:29:47,827 THAT THEY WERE TOGETHER. 589 00:29:47,833 --> 00:29:50,365 RUMORS STARTED PILING UP. 590 00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:53,970 THERE WERE SO MANY STORIES GOING AROUND ABOUT THEIR AFFAIR 591 00:29:54,005 --> 00:29:56,597 THAT NOBODY REALLY KNOWS, UP TILL THIS DAY, 592 00:29:56,600 --> 00:29:58,730 WHAT'S TRUE AND WHAT'S NOT. 593 00:29:58,733 --> 00:30:00,733 A RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE TWO OF THEM 594 00:30:00,768 --> 00:30:03,803 COULD BE A MOTIVE IN THIS CASE. 595 00:30:03,838 --> 00:30:12,232 ** 596 00:30:12,267 --> 00:30:15,797 AS THE STORIES ABOUT FAY AND PAUL BEGIN TO PILE UP, 597 00:30:15,832 --> 00:30:19,327 DETECTIVES FIND EVIDENCE THAT CASTS MORE DOUBT ON THE ALIBI 598 00:30:19,333 --> 00:30:21,583 CREATED BY GOLDMAN AND HIS WIFE IRINA. 599 00:30:21,618 --> 00:30:24,260 ONE OF THE THINGS WE DID IS, 600 00:30:24,295 --> 00:30:26,912 WE WENT TO THE TWO STORES IN NEW JERSEY 601 00:30:26,947 --> 00:30:29,530 THAT HE HAD SAID HIM AND IRINA WERE AT 602 00:30:29,533 --> 00:30:31,503 AT THE TIME OF THE HOMICIDE. 603 00:30:31,538 --> 00:30:33,432 - YOU GOT THEM? - BOTH OF THEM. 604 00:30:33,467 --> 00:30:37,427 WE SPOKE TO STORE MANAGEMENT AND ALSO SECURITY, 605 00:30:37,433 --> 00:30:40,573 AND THEY ALLOWED US TO VIEW A SURVEILLANCE VIDEO 606 00:30:40,608 --> 00:30:42,227 FROM THAT DATE AND TIME. 607 00:30:42,233 --> 00:30:45,665 ** 608 00:30:45,700 --> 00:30:47,365 THERE SHE IS, RIGHT ON TIME. 609 00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:49,865 WE WATCHED IRINA COME INTO THE STORE, 610 00:30:49,900 --> 00:30:52,965 AND SHE WALKED IN ALONE, AND SHE WALKED AROUND, 611 00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:56,000 AND SHE WAS LOOKING AND TALKING TO A SALES ASSOCIATE. 612 00:30:57,333 --> 00:30:59,073 NO SIGN OF PAUL. 613 00:30:59,108 --> 00:31:00,532 NO. 614 00:31:00,567 --> 00:31:02,827 LET'S CUE UP THE SECOND ONE AT THE COUNTER. 615 00:31:02,833 --> 00:31:06,498 ** 616 00:31:06,533 --> 00:31:08,398 SHE LEAVES THE CASH REGISTER. 617 00:31:08,433 --> 00:31:11,473 SHE WALKS DIRECTLY TOWARDS THE EXIT DOOR OF THE STORE 618 00:31:11,508 --> 00:31:13,427 AND LEAVES THE STORE ALONE. 619 00:31:13,433 --> 00:31:15,398 SHE'S ALONE AGAIN. 620 00:31:15,433 --> 00:31:17,773 PAUL'S ALIBI HAS FALLEN APART. 621 00:31:17,808 --> 00:31:20,267 HE LIED ABOUT BEING IN THE STORE, 622 00:31:20,302 --> 00:31:23,197 AND SO HAS HIS WIFE IRINA. 623 00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:25,230 OUR REACTION WAS THAT THIS GUY IS BECOMING 624 00:31:25,233 --> 00:31:29,165 A BETTER SUSPECT THE MORE WE WATCH. 625 00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:33,570 BUT WE STILL DO NOT HAVE ENOUGH TO GET A WARRANT FOR HIS ARREST 626 00:31:33,605 --> 00:31:35,627 FOR FIRST-DEGREE MURDER. 627 00:31:35,633 --> 00:31:38,633 THAT'S WHEN WE DECIDED, "LET'S PULL HIS TRASH." 628 00:31:38,668 --> 00:31:40,232 ** 629 00:31:40,267 --> 00:31:42,897 WHICH ONE OF YOU ORDERED LUNCH? 630 00:31:42,900 --> 00:31:44,930 VERY FUNNY. 631 00:31:44,933 --> 00:31:49,232 ** 632 00:31:49,267 --> 00:31:52,197 YOU GOT TO SIGN FOR IT. 633 00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:53,732 TO STRENGTHEN THEIR CASE, 634 00:31:53,767 --> 00:31:56,397 INVESTIGATORS ARRANGE TO SECRETLY COLLECT 635 00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:58,830 PAUL GOLDMAN'S TRASH FROM HIS HOME ACROSS THE RIVER 636 00:31:58,833 --> 00:32:01,133 FROM PHILLY IN NEW JERSEY. 637 00:32:04,867 --> 00:32:10,827 IN THE TRASH, WE FOUND GAUZE USED TO BANDAGE UP HIS HAND. 638 00:32:10,833 --> 00:32:16,098 ** 639 00:32:16,133 --> 00:32:18,798 I DON'T BELIEVE IT. 640 00:32:18,833 --> 00:32:21,173 WE FOUND PICTURES OF FAY. 641 00:32:21,208 --> 00:32:22,597 I'LL BE DAMNED. 642 00:32:23,900 --> 00:32:25,565 HE'S DUMPING HIS PHOTOS. 643 00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:29,200 HE WAS TRYING TO DISASSOCIATE HIMSELF WITH FAY ZONIS. 644 00:32:29,235 --> 00:32:32,600 THIS GUY IS TRYING TO GET RID OF HIS PAST. 645 00:32:35,133 --> 00:32:37,718 AFTER LOCATING THESE ITEMS IN THE TRASH, 646 00:32:37,753 --> 00:32:40,303 WE DECIDED NOW IT WAS TIME TO INTERVIEW PAUL AGAIN 647 00:32:40,338 --> 00:32:41,832 FOR THE SECOND TIME. 648 00:32:41,867 --> 00:32:43,432 PAUL, IT'S DETECTIVE GROOME AGAIN. 649 00:32:43,467 --> 00:32:45,867 I NEED YOU TO CALL ME BACK AS SOON AS YOU GET THIS. 650 00:32:45,902 --> 00:32:47,397 WE NEED TO TALK. 651 00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:49,470 IF HE DOESN'T CALL BACK, 652 00:32:49,505 --> 00:32:51,667 MAYBE SHE WILL. 653 00:32:51,702 --> 00:32:53,697 ** 654 00:32:53,700 --> 00:32:56,663 PAUL NEVER RESPONDS, BUT EIGHT DAYS AFTER 655 00:32:56,698 --> 00:32:59,627 SHE AND PAUL FIRST APPEARED AT THE POLICE STATION, 656 00:32:59,633 --> 00:33:02,073 IRINA RETURNS ALONE. 657 00:33:02,108 --> 00:33:03,527 WHERE'S PAUL? 658 00:33:03,533 --> 00:33:05,065 HE'S ON BUSINESS. HE'S BUSY. 659 00:33:05,100 --> 00:33:07,330 HE DOESN'T EVEN RETURN MY PHONE CALLS. 660 00:33:07,333 --> 00:33:09,973 IRINA TOLD ME THAT PAUL WAS CURRENTLY WORKING 661 00:33:10,008 --> 00:33:12,427 IN WASHINGTON, D.C., 662 00:33:12,433 --> 00:33:16,303 INSTALLING WINDOWS FOR THE COMPANY THAT HE WORKED FOR. 663 00:33:16,338 --> 00:33:17,432 WE CONFRONTED HER AND TOLD HER 664 00:33:17,467 --> 00:33:19,227 THAT WHAT SHE HAD TOLD US WERE LIES, 665 00:33:19,233 --> 00:33:21,065 AND THAT WE HAD PROVEN THEM TO BE LIES. 666 00:33:21,100 --> 00:33:23,200 DID YOU NOT REALIZE THAT ALL THE STORES YOU WENT TO 667 00:33:23,235 --> 00:33:25,530 HAD SURVEILLANCE CAMERAS? 668 00:33:25,533 --> 00:33:29,203 NOW IS THE TIME TO TELL US EVERYTHING, AND YOU KNOW WHY? 669 00:33:29,238 --> 00:33:31,554 BECAUSE THAT LITTLE BOY WHO'S IN THE HOSPITAL 670 00:33:31,589 --> 00:33:33,832 IS GOING TO NEED HIS MOTHER FREE AND OUT OF JAIL, 671 00:33:33,867 --> 00:33:36,267 AND IF YOU KEEP LYING, THAT'S EXACTLY WHERE YOU'RE GOING, 672 00:33:36,302 --> 00:33:38,032 JUST LIKE PAUL. 673 00:33:38,067 --> 00:33:40,927 OKAY, FINE. I'LL TELL YOU. 674 00:33:40,933 --> 00:33:44,503 SHE SAID, "I LIED TO YOU GUYS WHEN YOU INTERVIEWED ME." 675 00:33:44,538 --> 00:33:47,302 I CAN'T BELIEVE THIS IS HAPPENING. 676 00:33:47,337 --> 00:33:50,032 IRINA FINALLY BROKE DOWN AND CONFESSED 677 00:33:50,067 --> 00:33:54,767 AND SAID THAT PAUL HAD TOLD HER THAT HE HAD KILLED FAY. 678 00:33:54,802 --> 00:33:58,127 HE CALLED ME, AND HE TOLD ME WHAT HE HAD DONE. 679 00:33:58,133 --> 00:34:00,773 IT WAS UNBELIEVABLE TO ME. 680 00:34:00,808 --> 00:34:03,227 HE CAME HOME. 681 00:34:03,233 --> 00:34:04,868 I WRAPPED HIS HAND. 682 00:34:04,903 --> 00:34:06,465 HE WAS BLEEDING. 683 00:34:06,500 --> 00:34:10,430 WE HAD NOW SOMEONE TELLING US THAT PAUL SAID HE DID IT. 684 00:34:10,433 --> 00:34:13,473 IRINA, YOU NEED TO PROTECT YOURSELF AND YOUR SON. 685 00:34:13,508 --> 00:34:15,802 WHERE'S PAUL? 686 00:34:15,837 --> 00:34:18,097 HE'S GONE. 687 00:34:18,100 --> 00:34:21,830 IRINA TOLD US SHE, ALONG WITH PAUL'S PARENTS, 688 00:34:21,833 --> 00:34:25,032 HAD TAKEN PAUL TO JFK AIRPORT, 689 00:34:25,067 --> 00:34:29,197 AND THAT THEY HAD PURCHASED TICKETS TO FRANCE, 690 00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:33,500 AND THAT PAUL'S FATHER HAD SINCE RETURNED FROM THE TRIP, 691 00:34:33,535 --> 00:34:36,070 BUT PAUL HAD NOT. 692 00:34:37,267 --> 00:34:39,297 ** 693 00:34:39,300 --> 00:34:42,330 WE KNEW PAUL GOLDMAN HAD A SICKLY CHILD 694 00:34:42,333 --> 00:34:43,831 WHO WAS IN THE HOSPITAL. 695 00:34:43,866 --> 00:34:45,330 WE KNEW THAT HE HAD A WIFE 696 00:34:45,333 --> 00:34:48,973 WHO OBVIOUSLY LOVED HIM ENOUGH TO LIE FOR HIM, 697 00:34:49,008 --> 00:34:50,497 BUT WHAT WE DIDN'T KNOW, 698 00:34:50,500 --> 00:34:51,930 THAT HE WAS GOING TO BE ABLE TO TURN HIS BACK 699 00:34:51,933 --> 00:34:54,898 ON ALL OF THEM AND FLEE THE COUNTRY. 700 00:34:54,933 --> 00:34:57,673 WITH PAUL ON THE RUN, DETECTIVES' BEST CHANCE 701 00:34:57,708 --> 00:35:01,032 OF FINDING HIM RESTS WITH HIS PARENTS. 702 00:35:01,067 --> 00:35:05,097 WE KNEW THAT WE HAD TO TALK TO PAUL GOLDMAN'S FATHER 703 00:35:05,100 --> 00:35:06,370 AND MOTHER. 704 00:35:06,405 --> 00:35:09,632 ** 705 00:35:09,667 --> 00:35:12,327 DOESN'T LOOK LIKE ANYONE'S HOME. 706 00:35:12,333 --> 00:35:14,932 ** 707 00:35:14,967 --> 00:35:18,497 MR. AND MRS. GOLDMAN, BUCKS COUNTY DETECTIVES. 708 00:35:18,500 --> 00:35:21,032 ** 709 00:35:22,633 --> 00:35:25,773 MR. AND MRS. GOLDMAN, PLEASE COME TO THE DOOR. 710 00:35:25,808 --> 00:35:28,527 LET'S TAKE A LOOK AROUND BACK. 711 00:35:28,533 --> 00:35:30,973 NO ANSWER AT THE DOOR AFTER KNOCKING. 712 00:35:31,008 --> 00:35:32,827 IT'S DARK. THERE'S NO LIGHTS ON. 713 00:35:32,833 --> 00:35:39,398 ** 714 00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:44,930 THERE'S A SMALL WINDOW, LOOKS LIKE A BATHROOM. 715 00:35:44,933 --> 00:35:47,833 I PUT MY EYE AND LOOK THROUGH THE LITTLE HOLE 716 00:35:47,868 --> 00:35:49,967 WHERE THE CORD OF THE BLINDS GO, 717 00:35:50,002 --> 00:35:52,067 AND I SEE SOMETHING ON THE FLOOR. 718 00:35:52,102 --> 00:35:53,897 BOY. 719 00:35:53,900 --> 00:35:56,630 THE TWISTS AND TURNS THAT WERE ABOUT TO HAPPEN, 720 00:35:56,633 --> 00:35:58,473 NOBODY COULD HAVE EVER PREDICTED. 721 00:35:58,508 --> 00:36:02,327 ** 722 00:36:05,667 --> 00:36:11,927 ** 723 00:36:11,933 --> 00:36:14,073 WITH MURDER SUSPECT PAUL GOLDMAN 724 00:36:14,108 --> 00:36:16,332 ALLEGEDLY HIDING OUT IN FRANCE, 725 00:36:16,367 --> 00:36:19,427 HIS PARENTS ARE THE BEST CHANCE AT TRACKING HIM DOWN, 726 00:36:19,433 --> 00:36:21,903 BUT IT MIGHT BE TOO LATE. 727 00:36:21,938 --> 00:36:27,365 ** 728 00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:29,565 CLEAR BACK HERE. 729 00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:31,600 WE GOT INSIDE THE HOME. 730 00:36:31,635 --> 00:36:33,100 NO ONE HAD ANSWERED THE DOOR. 731 00:36:33,135 --> 00:36:38,032 ** 732 00:36:38,067 --> 00:36:40,467 WENT INTO THE BATHROOM, OPENED UP THE BATHROOM DOOR, 733 00:36:40,502 --> 00:36:42,067 WHICH WAS CLOSED... 734 00:36:42,102 --> 00:36:46,032 ** 735 00:36:46,067 --> 00:36:49,097 ...AND WE SEE... 736 00:36:49,100 --> 00:36:51,330 PAUL'S FATHER AND MOTHER, 737 00:36:51,333 --> 00:36:53,665 BOTH DECEASED 738 00:36:53,700 --> 00:36:57,730 WHERE THEY HAD COMMITTED SUICIDE 739 00:36:57,733 --> 00:37:01,433 BY SLICING THEIR WRISTS WITH STRAIGHT RAZORS. 740 00:37:01,468 --> 00:37:05,198 ** 741 00:37:05,233 --> 00:37:08,603 PAUL GOLDMAN'S PARENTS ARE GONE. 742 00:37:08,638 --> 00:37:11,365 MIKE, LOOK. BUT THEY LEFT A NOTE. 743 00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:14,270 "CRIME COMMITTED BY OUR SON IS OUR SHAME, 744 00:37:14,305 --> 00:37:15,727 "AND WE CANNOT LIVE WITH IT, 745 00:37:15,733 --> 00:37:18,032 AND OUR LIFE DOESN'T MAKE SENSE ANYMORE." 746 00:37:18,067 --> 00:37:20,267 THEY ESSENTIALLY SAID THAT THEY HAD DONE THIS 747 00:37:20,302 --> 00:37:23,467 BECAUSE THEY WERE ASHAMED OF THEIR SON 748 00:37:23,502 --> 00:37:25,732 COMMITTING THIS HOMICIDE. 749 00:37:25,767 --> 00:37:29,497 "WE ASK NOT TO BLAME ANYONE IN OUR DECISION TO COMMIT SUICIDE." 750 00:37:29,500 --> 00:37:32,500 THEY THOUGHT THE ONLY WAY TO RESOLVE THIS 751 00:37:32,535 --> 00:37:34,101 THIS WAS TO TAKE THEIR OWN LIVES 752 00:37:34,136 --> 00:37:35,632 BECAUSE THEY WERE SO ASHAMED. 753 00:37:35,667 --> 00:37:38,727 ALL RIGHT. LET'S BACK OUT OF HERE. 754 00:37:38,733 --> 00:37:41,433 AND WE'RE SAYING TO OURSELVES, 755 00:37:41,468 --> 00:37:43,600 "THERE'S THREE PEOPLE DEAD NOW. 756 00:37:43,635 --> 00:37:45,698 LIKE, WHEN IS THIS GOING TO STOP?" 757 00:37:45,733 --> 00:37:48,680 BUT THEIR SUSPECT, PAUL GOLDMAN, 758 00:37:48,715 --> 00:37:51,627 IS STILL ON THE RUN AND VERY MUCH ALIVE. 759 00:37:51,633 --> 00:37:53,065 IT UPPED THE STAKES. 760 00:37:53,100 --> 00:37:56,532 WE HAD TO NOW GO TO A DIFFERENT LEVEL 761 00:37:56,567 --> 00:37:59,767 AND GET INVOLVED IN AN INTERNATIONAL MANHUNT. 762 00:37:59,802 --> 00:38:01,597 ** 763 00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:04,200 WHILE THE MOTIVE FOR FAY'S MURDER IS UNCLEAR, 764 00:38:04,235 --> 00:38:06,065 AFTER HIS PARENTS' SUICIDE, 765 00:38:06,100 --> 00:38:09,032 PAUL'S GUILT IS NO LONGER IN QUESTION, 766 00:38:09,067 --> 00:38:11,327 AND INVESTIGATORS ARE CONFIDENT THEY NOW KNOW 767 00:38:11,333 --> 00:38:14,132 WHAT HAPPENED THE NIGHT OF FAY'S MURDER. 768 00:38:14,167 --> 00:38:16,867 PAUL WAS ACTUALLY STALKING HER THAT DAY. 769 00:38:16,902 --> 00:38:18,427 BECAUSE WE SAW IN HIS PHONE RECORDS 770 00:38:18,433 --> 00:38:20,733 THAT HE WAS OVER THERE ALL AFTERNOON, 771 00:38:20,768 --> 00:38:22,873 USING THE PHONE, CALLING HER. 772 00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:27,230 WE FIGURED THAT WHEN HE SAW FAY 773 00:38:27,233 --> 00:38:30,832 AND THE OTHER MALE EMPLOYEE LEAVE THE BUILDING, 774 00:38:30,867 --> 00:38:33,067 ONCE THE MALE EMPLOYEE PULLED OUT ON THE STREET ROAD 775 00:38:33,102 --> 00:38:34,697 AND LEFT... 776 00:38:36,667 --> 00:38:40,132 ...JUST LEAVING FAY ALONE IN THE DRIVEWAY, 777 00:38:40,167 --> 00:38:43,867 THAT AT THAT POINT HE SAW HIS OPPORTUNITY TO CONFRONT FAY... 778 00:38:49,633 --> 00:38:50,973 WHY WON'T YOU RETURN MY PHONE CALLS? 779 00:38:51,008 --> 00:38:52,217 I'VE BEEN CALLING YOU ALL DAY! 780 00:38:52,252 --> 00:38:53,427 WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU DOING HERE? 781 00:38:53,433 --> 00:38:55,251 - I WANT TO TALK TO YOU, FAY. - SHH! 782 00:38:55,286 --> 00:38:57,070 SOMEONE CAN HEAR YOU. GO INSIDE. 783 00:38:57,105 --> 00:38:59,327 GO INSIDE! 784 00:38:59,333 --> 00:39:01,303 ...AND THAT THEY WENT BACK INTO THE BUILDING 785 00:39:01,338 --> 00:39:04,100 TO CONTINUE THEIR -- THE CONVERSATION. 786 00:39:04,135 --> 00:39:07,330 ** 787 00:39:07,333 --> 00:39:10,633 AND AT SOME POINT, AN ARGUMENT ENSUED. 788 00:39:10,668 --> 00:39:12,032 FAY, FAY, FAY! 789 00:39:12,067 --> 00:39:14,032 I CAN'T BELIEVE YOU CAME HERE AT MY WORK PLACE. 790 00:39:14,067 --> 00:39:15,797 FAY, LISTEN TO ME FOR A SECOND. 791 00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:17,430 - YOU'RE TALKING CRAZY RIGHT NOW. - LISTEN! 792 00:39:17,433 --> 00:39:18,751 YOU'RE SCARING THE HELL OUT OF ME! 793 00:39:18,786 --> 00:39:20,070 BECAUSE YOU WON'T RETURN MY CALLS! 794 00:39:20,105 --> 00:39:21,227 PLEASE STOP YELLING AT ME! 795 00:39:21,233 --> 00:39:23,468 WE HAD BEEN TOLD BY VARIOUS PEOPLE 796 00:39:23,503 --> 00:39:25,665 THAT WERE FAMILIAR WITH PAUL GOLDMAN 797 00:39:25,700 --> 00:39:28,630 THAT HE HAD HAD TROUBLE CONTROLLING HIS ANGER. 798 00:39:28,633 --> 00:39:30,365 - YOU NEED TO CALM DOWN. - LEAVE ME ALONE! 799 00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:33,800 THE KNIFE WAS NEXT TO THE CAKE FOR A CELEBRATION. 800 00:39:33,835 --> 00:39:35,370 HE MUST HAVE GRABBED THE KNIFE. 801 00:39:35,405 --> 00:39:37,067 A STRUGGLE ENSUED. 802 00:39:37,102 --> 00:39:40,397 STOP! NO! 803 00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:42,032 STOP! 804 00:39:42,067 --> 00:39:44,127 HE STABBED HER MULTIPLE TIMES. 805 00:39:44,133 --> 00:39:46,232 NO! 806 00:39:46,267 --> 00:39:48,947 HE BANGED HER HEAD ON THE FLOOR. 807 00:39:48,982 --> 00:39:51,627 THE AUTOPSY REPORT SAID AT LEAST TWO TO THREE 808 00:39:51,633 --> 00:39:54,303 BLUNT TRAUMA FORCE ON HER FACE 809 00:39:54,338 --> 00:39:56,270 RESULTED IN FAY'S DEATH. 810 00:39:56,305 --> 00:40:02,232 ** 811 00:40:05,302 --> 00:40:08,932 ** 812 00:40:08,967 --> 00:40:10,827 SEVEN DAYS AFTER HIS PARENTS' BODIES 813 00:40:10,833 --> 00:40:13,130 WERE DISCOVERED, FRENCH INVESTIGATORS GET A LEAD 814 00:40:13,165 --> 00:40:15,427 ON PAUL GOLDMAN'S WHEREABOUTS... 815 00:40:15,433 --> 00:40:17,398 ...AND MAKE AN ARREST. 816 00:40:17,433 --> 00:40:20,898 THE FRENCH AUTHORITIES LOCATED GOLDMAN 817 00:40:20,933 --> 00:40:24,733 IN GRENOBLE, FRANCE, AND TOOK GOLDMAN INTO CUSTODY. 818 00:40:24,768 --> 00:40:27,432 ** 819 00:40:27,467 --> 00:40:29,327 THERE WAS NO DOUBT IN OUR MIND 820 00:40:29,333 --> 00:40:32,832 THAT HE WAS GOING TO BE BROUGHT TO JUSTICE. 821 00:40:32,867 --> 00:40:35,827 WE WERE CONFIDENT THAT WE WERE GOING TO BE ABLE TO 822 00:40:35,833 --> 00:40:40,098 BRING HIM BACK TO BUCKS COUNTY TO FACE TRIAL. 823 00:40:40,133 --> 00:40:43,873 BUT WHILE PROSECUTORS ARE PREPARING EXTRADITION PAPERS, 824 00:40:43,908 --> 00:40:47,227 THEY RECEIVE ONE FINAL BLOW TO THEIR CASE. 825 00:40:50,268 --> 00:40:52,598 ** 826 00:40:52,633 --> 00:40:56,233 THEN THE FATEFUL DAY CAME, AND WHEN WE WERE ADVISED THAT 827 00:40:56,268 --> 00:40:58,298 HE HAD COMMITTED SUICIDE 828 00:40:58,333 --> 00:41:03,073 BY HANGING IN A PRISON CELL IN FRANCE. 829 00:41:03,108 --> 00:41:07,632 ** 830 00:41:07,667 --> 00:41:10,467 EVERYBODY FOUND OUT THAT HE WAS NOT GOING TO BE 831 00:41:10,502 --> 00:41:12,732 HELD RESPONSIBLE. 832 00:41:12,767 --> 00:41:15,427 PEOPLE WERE OUTRAGED. PEOPLE WERE MAD. 833 00:41:15,433 --> 00:41:17,032 WHAT REALLY HAPPENED? 834 00:41:17,067 --> 00:41:21,697 I THINK ONLY TWO PEOPLE KNOW, AND THAT'S FAY AND PAUL. 835 00:41:21,700 --> 00:41:23,600 HONESTLY, THE WAY IT MADE EVERYBODY FEEL 836 00:41:23,635 --> 00:41:26,865 WAS COMPLETE AND TOTAL DEVASTATION. 837 00:41:26,900 --> 00:41:29,332 BUT BY THE TIME WE STARTED COUNTING BODIES, 838 00:41:29,367 --> 00:41:34,497 WE NOW HAD FOUR DEAD BODIES, ALL BECAUSE OF PAUL GOLDMAN. 839 00:41:34,500 --> 00:41:38,132 PAUL GOLDMAN IS WHERE HE NEEDS TO BE. 840 00:41:38,167 --> 00:41:39,897 BUT AT THE SAME TIME, IT WOULD HAVE BEEN BETTER 841 00:41:39,900 --> 00:41:43,170 IF IT WAS DONE THROUGH THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM. 842 00:41:43,205 --> 00:41:45,232 ** 843 00:41:45,267 --> 00:41:47,727 WITH PAUL AND FAY BOTH DEAD, 844 00:41:47,733 --> 00:41:49,573 HER FAMILY AND FRIENDS WILL NEVER KNOW 845 00:41:49,608 --> 00:41:52,827 THE TRUE REASON FOR HER MURDER. 846 00:41:52,833 --> 00:41:55,980 PEOPLE STARTED CONCENTRATING ON IRINA. 847 00:41:56,015 --> 00:41:59,127 A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY BLAMED HER. 848 00:41:59,133 --> 00:42:00,703 IRINA WAS CHARGED WITH HINDERING 849 00:42:00,738 --> 00:42:03,430 THE APPREHENSION OF PAUL GOLDMAN. 850 00:42:03,433 --> 00:42:07,533 SHE PLEAD GUILTY AND RECEIVED 6 TO 111/2 MONTHS 851 00:42:07,568 --> 00:42:10,447 IN THE COUNTY PRISON, WHICH SHE DID. 852 00:42:10,482 --> 00:42:13,327 WE SHOULD ALL REMEMBER FAY 853 00:42:13,333 --> 00:42:14,632 FOR BEING THE VICTIM 854 00:42:14,667 --> 00:42:17,667 THAT NEVER GOT JUSTICE FOR HER CRIME, 855 00:42:17,702 --> 00:42:20,832 AND I THINK IT WAS MORE, LIKE, 856 00:42:20,867 --> 00:42:23,797 TRAGIC RUSSIAN STORY OUT OF A BOOK, 857 00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:27,070 BUT THIS IS A TRUE STORY. IT'S NOT A NOVEL. 858 00:42:27,105 --> 00:42:31,467 ** 859 00:42:32,305 --> 00:43:32,613 63641

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