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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:05,267 --> 00:00:08,000 [ethereal music] 2 00:00:15,533 --> 00:00:17,467 [man] I remember being on the plane, 3 00:00:17,500 --> 00:00:19,600 being really scared because I think it was the first time. 4 00:00:19,633 --> 00:00:21,600 I was seven years old when I came to America 5 00:00:21,633 --> 00:00:24,467 and it was the first time that I was on a plane 6 00:00:24,500 --> 00:00:28,300 and we literally tried to take everything of value, 7 00:00:28,333 --> 00:00:31,033 everything that meant anything to us. 8 00:00:31,067 --> 00:00:32,467 We were, like, really scared about, 9 00:00:32,500 --> 00:00:34,800 not only facing our new home 10 00:00:34,833 --> 00:00:37,600 or what was to be our new home 11 00:00:37,633 --> 00:00:40,467 at least for the foreseeable future, 12 00:00:40,500 --> 00:00:42,733 because our father was going to university. 13 00:00:42,767 --> 00:00:45,567 Just scared about having left Iran for the first time 14 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:47,500 and going somewhere that we knew 15 00:00:47,533 --> 00:00:49,400 was going to be completely different. 16 00:00:49,433 --> 00:00:53,600 I saw that there was room for 17 00:00:53,633 --> 00:00:58,533 a lot of opportunity to eventually present itself 18 00:00:58,567 --> 00:01:03,500 and I saw that had I stayed in Iran, 19 00:01:03,533 --> 00:01:07,600 I probably would have done what was expected of me 20 00:01:07,633 --> 00:01:12,467 and done what everybody else had always done, 21 00:01:12,500 --> 00:01:16,200 which is become a doctor, become an engineer, 22 00:01:17,533 --> 00:01:19,467 become a lawyer. You know? 23 00:01:19,500 --> 00:01:21,567 And in America, I felt more freedom 24 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:25,367 to express myself in creative ways 25 00:01:25,400 --> 00:01:27,567 that maybe, had I stayed in Iran, 26 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:30,333 I wouldn't have been able to do. 27 00:01:30,367 --> 00:01:33,533 Since I used to be English teacher there, 28 00:01:33,567 --> 00:01:36,600 I was helping Ali to learn the language, 29 00:01:36,633 --> 00:01:38,767 which he picked up pretty quick. 30 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:44,733 The only time that Ali and Arash had a hard time was, 31 00:01:44,767 --> 00:01:49,233 there was a hostage crisis in Iran 32 00:01:49,267 --> 00:01:52,567 and they were kids and they didn't know anything 33 00:01:52,600 --> 00:01:54,267 and at this school, 34 00:01:54,300 --> 00:01:57,733 although their school staff was very understanding 35 00:01:57,767 --> 00:01:59,667 and supportive of them, 36 00:01:59,700 --> 00:02:02,833 but the children at this school couldn't understand it, 37 00:02:02,867 --> 00:02:06,500 so they were giving Ali and Arash a really hard time. 38 00:02:06,533 --> 00:02:09,467 So, they made them practically miserable. 39 00:02:09,500 --> 00:02:12,467 So, that was the time that they needed a lot of help. 40 00:02:12,500 --> 00:02:19,167 Ali was average, actually, at school. 41 00:02:20,633 --> 00:02:24,533 There were some subjects that he was pretty great, 42 00:02:24,567 --> 00:02:27,167 but the rest he didn't pay attention, 43 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:30,500 simply because he was in love with music. 44 00:02:30,533 --> 00:02:34,100 [ethereal music] 45 00:02:34,133 --> 00:02:38,500 With help of his friend, Brian Transeau, BT, 46 00:02:38,533 --> 00:02:40,300 he was his classmate. 47 00:02:40,333 --> 00:02:43,267 Eventually, he went into music. 48 00:02:43,300 --> 00:02:45,200 He loved very much 49 00:02:45,233 --> 00:02:48,567 and he constantly continued this interest. 50 00:02:51,433 --> 00:02:53,367 They saw it as a side hobby. 51 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:54,600 I don't think they ever realized 52 00:02:54,633 --> 00:02:57,233 he would pursue it as a career 53 00:02:57,267 --> 00:02:59,400 and at the time it was sort of in the nascent stages. 54 00:02:59,433 --> 00:03:02,100 I mean, it was pre-EDM, if you will. 55 00:03:02,133 --> 00:03:05,567 I mean, DJs were not on magazine covers, 56 00:03:05,600 --> 00:03:07,600 especially in America, you know? 57 00:03:07,633 --> 00:03:11,200 It was a real, sort of underground career path 58 00:03:11,233 --> 00:03:13,167 and I think my parents, at the time, were worried. 59 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:15,267 They were really hesitant 60 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:18,700 about him moving into that 61 00:03:18,733 --> 00:03:21,067 as a full time career. 62 00:03:21,100 --> 00:03:28,033 I think their initial feelings were probably disappointment. 63 00:03:28,067 --> 00:03:31,333 [Rouhi] He came to me and actually requested, 64 00:03:31,367 --> 00:03:36,333 "Mom, if you allow me to pull out and focus 65 00:03:36,367 --> 00:03:39,600 all my attention to my music, 66 00:03:39,633 --> 00:03:42,800 I feel I'm going to be somebody." 67 00:03:42,833 --> 00:03:46,467 And after a long conversation, 68 00:03:46,500 --> 00:03:51,467 I agreed that, for him, to focus one year on his music 69 00:03:51,500 --> 00:03:54,300 more than his education 70 00:03:54,333 --> 00:03:59,567 and that was actually the year that everything turned around 71 00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:04,533 and, by the end of the year, he proved to himself and to me 72 00:04:04,567 --> 00:04:09,033 that this is really a special talent that he has got. 73 00:04:09,067 --> 00:04:10,733 [Ali] The closeness of family really 74 00:04:10,767 --> 00:04:14,067 has kept me grounded over the years. 75 00:04:14,100 --> 00:04:17,300 I think, had I not had that, 76 00:04:17,333 --> 00:04:21,033 I probably would have, you know, 77 00:04:21,067 --> 00:04:23,033 fallen in with the wrong crowd, 78 00:04:23,067 --> 00:04:24,833 maybe gone off the deep end 79 00:04:24,867 --> 00:04:27,633 with the excessive partying, 80 00:04:27,667 --> 00:04:30,800 the crazy night life. 81 00:04:30,833 --> 00:04:34,000 That's basically a part of my scene, 82 00:04:35,700 --> 00:04:38,633 but those core family values 83 00:04:38,667 --> 00:04:40,633 kept me on the right path. 84 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:45,200 [upbeat club music] 85 00:06:35,400 --> 00:06:39,600 [Hutchy] Ali use to spin hip hop, house, 86 00:06:39,633 --> 00:06:43,133 acid jazz, and funk 87 00:06:43,167 --> 00:06:44,700 and I used to spin reggae 88 00:06:44,733 --> 00:06:46,667 and throughout those genres, 89 00:06:46,700 --> 00:06:49,267 I gave the flavor and the mic. 90 00:06:49,300 --> 00:06:52,233 Before then, this was unheard of. 91 00:06:52,267 --> 00:06:54,500 This never had been done before 92 00:06:54,533 --> 00:06:56,500 as far as, you have an MC, you know, 93 00:06:56,533 --> 00:06:59,200 toasting over acid jazz music, 94 00:07:00,267 --> 00:07:01,767 hip hop, and stuff. 95 00:07:01,800 --> 00:07:03,533 It never had been done before. 96 00:07:03,567 --> 00:07:05,767 My little brother, my younger brother, 97 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:09,100 threw a party at a place here called-- 98 00:07:09,133 --> 00:07:11,533 It was a pizza shop, basically, called Milo's 99 00:07:11,567 --> 00:07:16,033 and he closed it down and rented it at night 100 00:07:16,067 --> 00:07:19,133 and begged me to have Ali play 101 00:07:19,167 --> 00:07:22,067 because Ali was a sick hip hop DJ. 102 00:07:22,100 --> 00:07:24,533 Actually, the first time I heard the music 103 00:07:24,567 --> 00:07:25,700 I remember asking people, what is this? 104 00:07:25,733 --> 00:07:26,733 Who is this? 105 00:07:26,767 --> 00:07:28,567 And there was a DJ up there 106 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:31,667 next to a Jamaican guy who was rapping 107 00:07:31,700 --> 00:07:35,700 and everyone told me it was a guy named Dubfire 108 00:07:35,733 --> 00:07:38,333 and they were playing what's called acid jazz. 109 00:07:38,367 --> 00:07:41,200 And so, essentially, he started playing acid jazz 110 00:07:41,233 --> 00:07:42,700 from what I recall. 111 00:07:42,733 --> 00:07:45,700 When we started off, Washington was a ghost town. 112 00:07:45,733 --> 00:07:47,500 Literally a ghost town. 113 00:07:47,533 --> 00:07:51,500 You can count the clubs on one hand 114 00:07:51,533 --> 00:07:57,467 and every club has their own specific ways of doing things. 115 00:07:57,500 --> 00:08:00,467 We came in young and radical 116 00:08:00,500 --> 00:08:02,633 and transformed the whole thing, 117 00:08:02,667 --> 00:08:07,567 but we were the first to go into a club 118 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:12,500 or a restaurant and make it into a club for that one night. 119 00:08:12,533 --> 00:08:15,067 We happened to be about two and a half blocks away 120 00:08:15,100 --> 00:08:16,833 from the place that I first met him. 121 00:08:16,867 --> 00:08:19,600 Well, it was called the Down Under Restaurant, 122 00:08:19,633 --> 00:08:22,567 but on Fridays and Saturdays 123 00:08:22,600 --> 00:08:25,233 we used to have a night called Exodus 124 00:08:25,267 --> 00:08:26,567 and he came in. 125 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:28,500 He was a very quiet guy, actually. 126 00:08:28,533 --> 00:08:31,467 For the kind of noise he made with the turn tables, 127 00:08:31,500 --> 00:08:34,033 he was a very quiet guy. [chuckles] 128 00:08:34,067 --> 00:08:36,667 And he's very focused, didn't say much. 129 00:08:36,700 --> 00:08:38,367 I mean, he came and did his thing 130 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:40,467 on a regular basis within the years, you know. 131 00:08:40,500 --> 00:08:42,633 But I remember the first time, 132 00:08:42,667 --> 00:08:44,600 he just came in with his record bag and started playing, 133 00:08:44,633 --> 00:08:47,100 but he was very 134 00:08:47,133 --> 00:08:49,500 down to earth, 135 00:08:49,533 --> 00:08:51,200 but very focused. 136 00:08:51,233 --> 00:08:53,467 We didn't participate too much with the crowd, 137 00:08:53,500 --> 00:08:55,667 but every time you would go back and listen to him, 138 00:08:55,700 --> 00:08:57,600 the music would change. 139 00:08:57,633 --> 00:08:59,600 I felt like it just get better and better every week. 140 00:08:59,633 --> 00:09:03,100 Sharam kept coming at Exodus, 141 00:09:03,133 --> 00:09:05,400 but you know, Sharam's music 142 00:09:05,433 --> 00:09:07,767 was completely a different background, 143 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:10,200 you know, which I respect 100%, 144 00:09:10,233 --> 00:09:12,633 but it was a great combination because 145 00:09:12,667 --> 00:09:16,533 I understood Ali's music was more bottom heavy, 146 00:09:16,567 --> 00:09:18,567 bass-oriented music. 147 00:09:18,600 --> 00:09:21,033 Whether it was slow or fast, it was very bottom heavy. 148 00:09:21,067 --> 00:09:22,667 And the thing with Sharam, 149 00:09:22,700 --> 00:09:25,700 he has the melodic aspect of music. 150 00:09:25,733 --> 00:09:27,600 So, I thought when they were kinda partnering up, 151 00:09:27,633 --> 00:09:29,400 I was like, this could be a good combination. 152 00:09:29,433 --> 00:09:32,100 And then, obviously, we saw it blossom 153 00:09:32,133 --> 00:09:34,267 to this thing what's known as Deep Dish. 154 00:09:34,300 --> 00:09:35,800 It's great. 155 00:09:35,833 --> 00:09:38,200 [Sharam] We met through a mutual friend at a party. 156 00:09:38,233 --> 00:09:39,467 We were booked to play the same party 157 00:09:39,500 --> 00:09:40,800 and we just hit it off musically 158 00:09:40,833 --> 00:09:43,467 and decided to create Deep Dish and here we are. 159 00:09:43,500 --> 00:09:45,033 It's like a marriage: 160 00:09:45,067 --> 00:09:47,033 some days you hate it, some days you love it. 161 00:09:47,067 --> 00:09:48,467 -Yeah, because-- -Yeah. 162 00:09:48,500 --> 00:09:50,233 [laughing] 163 00:09:50,267 --> 00:09:51,533 In the beginning, 164 00:09:51,567 --> 00:09:54,467 they started a bet each other, 165 00:09:54,500 --> 00:09:57,067 but then they started as a friend. 166 00:09:57,100 --> 00:10:03,467 Ali, first he made his room as his studio 167 00:10:03,500 --> 00:10:06,500 and then Sharam used to be with Ali 168 00:10:06,533 --> 00:10:10,500 in our home almost all the time. 169 00:10:10,533 --> 00:10:15,200 And since both of them love Persian meal and Persian food, 170 00:10:15,233 --> 00:10:18,533 so I was always ready to make them food 171 00:10:18,567 --> 00:10:20,567 and they used to go to that little room 172 00:10:20,600 --> 00:10:23,033 and work with each other. 173 00:10:23,067 --> 00:10:24,500 [Man] So you were like brothers, weren't you? 174 00:10:24,533 --> 00:10:26,133 -Do you feel like brothers? -We're brothers. 175 00:10:26,167 --> 00:10:27,567 -Yeah. -Yeah. 176 00:10:27,600 --> 00:10:30,667 I always wanted to have a twin brother, you know? 177 00:10:30,700 --> 00:10:32,333 I thought it would be cool. 178 00:10:32,367 --> 00:10:33,600 And then, God gave me this guy. 179 00:10:33,633 --> 00:10:35,033 Yeah, right. Right. 180 00:10:35,067 --> 00:10:36,067 It's wicked. 181 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:39,167 Which I'm regretting-- 182 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:42,533 You know they say be careful what you ask for? 183 00:10:42,567 --> 00:10:44,233 That was just at the start 184 00:10:44,267 --> 00:10:46,467 when he was Deep Dish with Sharam, 185 00:10:46,500 --> 00:10:47,833 I think in 1993. 186 00:10:47,867 --> 00:10:50,267 I used to go to his resident party, 187 00:10:50,300 --> 00:10:52,333 which was at State of the Union, 188 00:10:52,367 --> 00:10:54,167 a small bar in Washington, DC. 189 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:55,500 I was at university 190 00:10:55,533 --> 00:10:58,533 and this was a gig where him and Sharam 191 00:10:58,567 --> 00:11:01,233 had to assemble everything, 192 00:11:01,267 --> 00:11:02,733 all the equipment, all the speakers, 193 00:11:02,767 --> 00:11:05,133 CD players, turn tables, 194 00:11:05,167 --> 00:11:07,067 and they had to play from beginning to end 195 00:11:07,100 --> 00:11:09,733 and they probably got, I don't know how much, 196 00:11:09,767 --> 00:11:12,600 but I'm guessing $150 to play the whole night, 197 00:11:12,633 --> 00:11:14,333 both of them together. 198 00:11:14,367 --> 00:11:16,600 Well, needless to say, things have changed. 199 00:11:16,633 --> 00:11:17,567 [laughing] 200 00:11:17,600 --> 00:11:19,300 So, you know-- 201 00:11:19,333 --> 00:11:20,633 We go way back 202 00:11:20,667 --> 00:11:23,533 and, even though things have changed a lot, 203 00:11:23,567 --> 00:11:25,533 it's nice to see that he hasn't. 204 00:11:25,567 --> 00:11:28,567 [upbeat club music] 205 00:11:49,100 --> 00:11:51,100 I wanna say quiet, but that's not the right word. 206 00:11:51,133 --> 00:11:53,500 He was always the deep in the dish 207 00:11:53,533 --> 00:11:54,533 in the Deep Dish equation. 208 00:11:54,567 --> 00:11:56,500 So, he was kinda the deeper guy. 209 00:11:56,533 --> 00:12:01,033 I think as a DJ, you know, 210 00:12:01,067 --> 00:12:05,500 he liked reggae and hip hop sounds. 211 00:12:05,533 --> 00:12:10,133 He obviously had friendships with many of the local DJs, 212 00:12:10,167 --> 00:12:14,167 but he was always sort of the deeper part of that. 213 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:16,533 They were the biggest DJ duo 214 00:12:16,567 --> 00:12:18,667 in the world at the time. 215 00:12:20,600 --> 00:12:22,567 They were on magazine covers, 216 00:12:22,600 --> 00:12:25,400 they were headlining the best festivals, 217 00:12:25,433 --> 00:12:27,400 their music was number one. 218 00:12:27,433 --> 00:12:30,267 You know, anytime they put a tune out 219 00:12:30,300 --> 00:12:31,767 it was number one at Winter Music Conference 220 00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:33,633 it was number one on the UK charts. 221 00:12:33,667 --> 00:12:35,633 They started getting mainstream US press 222 00:12:35,667 --> 00:12:38,467 and, again, this is sort of pre-EDM, 223 00:12:38,500 --> 00:12:42,400 pre-Skrillex and Deadmaus on Rolling Stone. 224 00:12:42,433 --> 00:12:45,067 This is 2005, 2006, 225 00:12:45,100 --> 00:12:50,667 so the industry was just sort of emerging, 226 00:12:50,700 --> 00:12:52,567 at least in the US. 227 00:12:52,600 --> 00:12:56,067 It wasn't getting the support that it gets now. 228 00:12:56,100 --> 00:12:59,467 It was really sort of in the embryonic stage. 229 00:12:59,500 --> 00:13:03,133 And for them to achieve what they did with Madonna 230 00:13:03,167 --> 00:13:05,667 and with the remixes and the touring, 231 00:13:05,700 --> 00:13:08,267 it was really significant at the time. 232 00:13:08,300 --> 00:13:09,667 [Man] Wednesday is one of the biggest nights 233 00:13:09,700 --> 00:13:10,833 for the musical world. 234 00:13:10,867 --> 00:13:12,467 It is Grammy night. 235 00:13:12,500 --> 00:13:15,033 There are several people from our area up for awards. 236 00:13:15,067 --> 00:13:17,667 One is the DC-based remix duo called Deep Dish. 237 00:13:17,700 --> 00:13:21,233 Deep Dish is Ali Shirazinia and Sharam Tayebi. 238 00:13:21,267 --> 00:13:23,667 They were just children when they immigrated here from Iran. 239 00:13:23,700 --> 00:13:25,567 Now, the guys find themselves LA bound, 240 00:13:25,600 --> 00:13:27,700 nominated for best remix recording 241 00:13:27,733 --> 00:13:29,700 of Dido's chart hit Thank You. 242 00:13:29,733 --> 00:13:32,500 We take a song, it could be a rock song, 243 00:13:32,533 --> 00:13:36,067 a pop song, any sort of original material 244 00:13:36,100 --> 00:13:38,700 and we, more or less, reproduce it. 245 00:13:38,733 --> 00:13:40,200 We write our own music, 246 00:13:40,233 --> 00:13:41,700 our own drum programming on top of it 247 00:13:41,733 --> 00:13:43,800 and we give it our flavor. 248 00:13:44,833 --> 00:13:46,567 The commercial side of things 249 00:13:46,600 --> 00:13:49,533 really came towards George Is On 250 00:13:49,567 --> 00:13:52,267 where Flashcance happened at some stage 251 00:13:52,300 --> 00:13:54,600 and it was clearly the most commercial record 252 00:13:54,633 --> 00:13:56,067 that they'd ever done. 253 00:13:56,100 --> 00:13:57,300 It wasn't really a commercial record 254 00:13:57,333 --> 00:13:58,600 because at the time it was crazy. 255 00:13:58,633 --> 00:14:01,600 It turned into a commercial formula 256 00:14:01,633 --> 00:14:04,033 after Flashdance was successful, 257 00:14:04,067 --> 00:14:08,367 but at the time that Flashdance started to be created, 258 00:14:08,400 --> 00:14:09,767 it was impossible to predict. 259 00:14:09,800 --> 00:14:11,500 It would not have been possible to predict 260 00:14:11,533 --> 00:14:14,133 that that would be a commercially successful record. 261 00:14:14,167 --> 00:14:17,500 [Flashdance by Deep Dish] 262 00:14:32,567 --> 00:14:36,533 * He doesn't mean a thing to me 263 00:14:36,567 --> 00:14:40,133 * Just another pretty face to see 264 00:14:40,167 --> 00:14:41,400 * He's all over town 265 00:14:41,433 --> 00:14:43,600 * Knocking them down yeah honey 266 00:14:43,633 --> 00:14:47,800 * And I'd never let him next to me 267 00:14:50,133 --> 00:14:53,133 Madonna was doing a pre-tour event 268 00:14:53,167 --> 00:14:54,733 at the Roseland Ballroom in New York 269 00:14:54,767 --> 00:14:57,167 and wanted Deep Dish to open up for her 270 00:14:57,200 --> 00:14:58,567 and the reason was a phone call, 271 00:14:58,600 --> 00:15:01,467 not a fax or an email at the time was, 272 00:15:01,500 --> 00:15:02,700 this was all super-secret. 273 00:15:02,733 --> 00:15:04,300 Nobody could know. 274 00:15:04,333 --> 00:15:06,567 It was gonna be a surprise thing. Blah blah blah. 275 00:15:06,600 --> 00:15:08,300 And, to make a long story short, 276 00:15:08,333 --> 00:15:10,167 the guys ended up opening up for Madonna, 277 00:15:10,200 --> 00:15:13,567 phenomenally successful and this was the precursor 278 00:15:13,600 --> 00:15:15,600 to her Music tour at the time 279 00:15:15,633 --> 00:15:20,033 and given that it was in New York, 280 00:15:20,067 --> 00:15:22,033 given that it was in such a small venue, 281 00:15:22,067 --> 00:15:24,067 this was a moment from Heaven for press. 282 00:15:24,100 --> 00:15:26,667 So, a super media event. 283 00:15:26,700 --> 00:15:30,767 And two weeks later, I get this call from Versace 284 00:15:32,667 --> 00:15:35,200 saying that Donatello loves their sound 285 00:15:35,233 --> 00:15:36,767 and would they be willing to consider 286 00:15:36,800 --> 00:15:39,667 working on Versace's fashion shows? 287 00:15:39,700 --> 00:15:41,667 I called the guys up 288 00:15:41,700 --> 00:15:46,333 and I had to do a lot of explaining and coaxing 289 00:15:46,367 --> 00:15:48,400 because they weren't really into commercial stuff 290 00:15:48,433 --> 00:15:51,500 like that at all and they agreed. 291 00:15:51,533 --> 00:15:56,633 So, we flew out to Milan and then did that show 292 00:15:56,667 --> 00:15:58,267 and it was crazy stuff, you know? 293 00:15:58,300 --> 00:15:59,300 Imagine sitting there. 294 00:15:59,333 --> 00:16:01,533 I went on those trips with them. 295 00:16:01,567 --> 00:16:05,133 Imagine sitting there with a fashion designer 296 00:16:05,167 --> 00:16:07,633 who's saying, "I really want this to sound brown. 297 00:16:07,667 --> 00:16:09,133 It has to feel warm." 298 00:16:09,167 --> 00:16:11,600 [upbeat music] 299 00:16:19,833 --> 00:16:22,767 Did Deep Dish pave the way for Swedish House Mafia 300 00:16:22,800 --> 00:16:24,667 David Guetta, Calvin Harris? 301 00:16:24,700 --> 00:16:27,567 I would say, yeah and I think if you ask those guys they would tell you, 302 00:16:27,600 --> 00:16:29,200 especially David Guetta, he's older. 303 00:16:29,233 --> 00:16:34,333 I think that Deep Dish influenced a lot of DJs. 304 00:16:34,367 --> 00:16:36,667 I remember being at Pacha 305 00:16:37,833 --> 00:16:42,067 and I was a B DJ in France, 306 00:16:42,100 --> 00:16:45,367 but nobody knew me really outside of France 307 00:16:45,400 --> 00:16:49,833 and I remember saying hi to Ali and Sharam 308 00:16:49,867 --> 00:16:53,800 and going back to my agent 309 00:16:53,833 --> 00:16:56,800 and saying, oh, my god! I just shook their hands! 310 00:16:56,833 --> 00:16:59,233 [laughing] 311 00:16:59,267 --> 00:17:02,300 And I was so excited because I shook hands 312 00:17:02,333 --> 00:17:05,400 with Ali and Deep Dish and it was such 313 00:17:05,433 --> 00:17:07,767 a big deal for me to meet them. 314 00:17:09,533 --> 00:17:11,633 Deep Dish was definitely one of the first, 315 00:17:11,667 --> 00:17:17,100 well, probably the first house music that affected us 316 00:17:17,133 --> 00:17:19,267 and that we heard, you know? 317 00:17:19,300 --> 00:17:21,700 It was Deep Dish and Armin van Houten, I think, 318 00:17:21,733 --> 00:17:25,133 that really got us hooked in the scene. 319 00:17:26,867 --> 00:17:28,767 That was really like an American sound. 320 00:17:28,800 --> 00:17:30,767 It was sort of a club sound that you really don't hear 321 00:17:30,800 --> 00:17:33,133 that much anymore nowadays. 322 00:17:33,167 --> 00:17:34,067 It was so-- 323 00:17:35,800 --> 00:17:37,700 I call it mouth music because I'll show you. 324 00:17:37,733 --> 00:17:40,533 I can only show you what I mean with that. 325 00:17:42,300 --> 00:17:44,467 I think that Ali and Sharam reached 326 00:17:44,500 --> 00:17:48,800 the natural life cycle of any creative partnership. 327 00:17:48,833 --> 00:17:53,667 I think that working together for almost two decades 328 00:17:53,700 --> 00:17:56,133 and constantly having to run every decision 329 00:17:56,167 --> 00:17:58,233 past another person, 330 00:17:58,267 --> 00:18:03,667 I think that kinda placed its toll on them 331 00:18:03,700 --> 00:18:06,467 and I think they had both matured. 332 00:18:06,500 --> 00:18:09,767 I think that they had grown a lot over that time 333 00:18:09,800 --> 00:18:11,700 and I think they were more definitive 334 00:18:11,733 --> 00:18:14,233 about what they wanted out of life. 335 00:18:14,267 --> 00:18:16,767 They were more definitive about what they wanted creatively 336 00:18:16,800 --> 00:18:18,833 and they were veterans at this point. 337 00:18:18,867 --> 00:18:22,833 So, I think there was that conflict of values, 338 00:18:22,867 --> 00:18:28,667 of each direction Ali and Sharam wanted to go to. 339 00:18:28,700 --> 00:18:31,167 I think that was in conflict at the time. 340 00:18:31,200 --> 00:18:33,767 And he said, "By the way, 341 00:18:33,800 --> 00:18:37,667 Sharam and I fight a lot." [laughing] 342 00:18:37,700 --> 00:18:39,500 "You're gonna be spending a lot of time with us 343 00:18:39,533 --> 00:18:43,033 and you're gonna see us go at it. 344 00:18:43,067 --> 00:18:45,400 Just excuse yourself from the room, 345 00:18:45,433 --> 00:18:49,267 step outside, hang out, 346 00:18:49,300 --> 00:18:51,133 go down the street, get a beer, 347 00:18:51,167 --> 00:18:53,633 go smoke a cigarette, go do whatever you gotta do. 348 00:18:53,667 --> 00:18:56,533 Eventually, everything's gonna kind of subside 349 00:18:56,567 --> 00:18:59,533 and we'll get back to work." 350 00:18:59,567 --> 00:19:01,167 You know, if you think about it, 351 00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:03,033 ten years of touring, 352 00:19:03,067 --> 00:19:07,633 ten years of having to be that close with the same person. 353 00:19:07,667 --> 00:19:10,200 You know, it's difficult. 354 00:19:10,233 --> 00:19:11,733 You know, the studio relationship, 355 00:19:11,767 --> 00:19:13,467 the creative relationship, 356 00:19:13,500 --> 00:19:17,567 the magic that happened between them didn't come easy. 357 00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:20,533 It wasn't the type of thing where they sat in the studio, 358 00:19:20,567 --> 00:19:23,200 said, "Oh, that's a cool sound. Yeah, let's use that." 359 00:19:23,233 --> 00:19:24,700 There were a lot of fights. 360 00:19:24,733 --> 00:19:27,367 I used to go for a walk a lot. [laughing] 361 00:19:29,633 --> 00:19:31,800 You know, funnily enough, thinking back to it, 362 00:19:31,833 --> 00:19:34,133 I don't know if it was that much of a surprise that they split. 363 00:19:34,167 --> 00:19:37,067 I think that there aren't that many DJ duos 364 00:19:37,100 --> 00:19:39,533 and when you've been together with your partner 365 00:19:39,567 --> 00:19:41,367 for as long as they had, 366 00:19:41,400 --> 00:19:45,167 then, in a way, I think it was quite a natural thing. 367 00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:48,100 I think they'd felt they'd taken it as far as they could go. 368 00:19:48,133 --> 00:19:50,067 I think they both-- 369 00:19:50,100 --> 00:19:52,533 the more I got to know them better 370 00:19:52,567 --> 00:19:54,733 and the longer that relationship went on, 371 00:19:54,767 --> 00:19:58,100 they both had kinda-- 372 00:19:58,133 --> 00:20:00,533 they were totally separate people. 373 00:20:00,567 --> 00:20:03,600 They both did something different. 374 00:20:03,633 --> 00:20:06,700 I think it's very hard to find someone 375 00:20:06,733 --> 00:20:09,833 who isn't somehow attracted to money and fame. 376 00:20:09,867 --> 00:20:12,267 I think everybody wants it a little bit, 377 00:20:12,300 --> 00:20:13,667 at least once in their life 378 00:20:13,700 --> 00:20:16,567 and you have that chance, you go that way, 379 00:20:16,600 --> 00:20:19,300 and then you have to decide if it's for you or not 380 00:20:19,333 --> 00:20:23,233 and from my feeling and understanding with Ali 381 00:20:23,267 --> 00:20:27,300 is that he had an incredible ride and had a lot of fun, 382 00:20:27,333 --> 00:20:30,767 but at one point found that there was something missing 383 00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:35,467 and I think that's why he looked in another direction, 384 00:20:35,500 --> 00:20:39,667 not only musically, but also for friendship and support 385 00:20:42,533 --> 00:20:45,067 and to, some people would say, 386 00:20:45,100 --> 00:20:47,067 to get back to the roots, 387 00:20:47,100 --> 00:20:48,367 but I think it was just, you know, 388 00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:50,733 get back to why he got involved 389 00:20:50,767 --> 00:20:53,267 in this music in the first place. 390 00:20:53,300 --> 00:20:55,533 You know, we don't follow the rules 391 00:20:55,567 --> 00:20:57,533 and we see ourselves as, like, 392 00:20:57,567 --> 00:20:59,200 you know, I wanna make it in music 393 00:20:59,233 --> 00:21:00,700 and everybody tells you no. 394 00:21:00,733 --> 00:21:03,233 If you wanna work in music it's not gonna work. 395 00:21:03,267 --> 00:21:06,200 So many people, you should have to be very lucky 396 00:21:06,233 --> 00:21:07,833 and you can make a living 397 00:21:07,867 --> 00:21:10,100 I just say, "No. I want it like that." 398 00:21:10,133 --> 00:21:12,100 And you just fight to make it like this. 399 00:21:12,133 --> 00:21:13,833 But at the same time, 400 00:21:13,867 --> 00:21:15,700 if you're not happy in a situation, 401 00:21:15,733 --> 00:21:18,200 you have to be honest enough to say, 402 00:21:18,233 --> 00:21:20,700 "You know what, I'm in a peak, 403 00:21:20,733 --> 00:21:23,200 and fuck it, fuck everything, 404 00:21:23,233 --> 00:21:27,167 I wanna try again from the beginning." 405 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:29,467 I didn't think there was anything rocky about them. 406 00:21:29,500 --> 00:21:31,233 I just thought it was just two brothers are together 407 00:21:31,267 --> 00:21:34,233 all the time and they wanted to kill each other, you know? 408 00:21:34,267 --> 00:21:37,167 And if you're together with the same person every day you're gonna fight. 409 00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:40,800 Like me and my partner, we fight all the time and we have disagreements. 410 00:21:40,833 --> 00:21:42,400 That's what I sensed. 411 00:21:42,433 --> 00:21:46,367 I didn't sense anything like to what it became. 412 00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:48,800 I didn't see it coming like that. 413 00:21:48,833 --> 00:21:51,533 [light music] 414 00:22:02,167 --> 00:22:05,033 What I think is what he's done really well for himself, 415 00:22:05,067 --> 00:22:07,733 he got out of Deep Dish just at the right time 416 00:22:07,767 --> 00:22:09,667 where the techno scene would still embrace him 417 00:22:09,700 --> 00:22:11,233 because everybody in the techno scene-- 418 00:22:11,267 --> 00:22:13,267 that's a really hard scene to get into 419 00:22:13,300 --> 00:22:15,700 because everybody's really cool, you know? 420 00:22:15,733 --> 00:22:17,633 And to be part of that scene, 421 00:22:17,667 --> 00:22:20,467 you gotta really say goodbye to anything 422 00:22:20,500 --> 00:22:23,033 that has to do with other than techno 423 00:22:23,067 --> 00:22:25,667 and he did it really well. 424 00:22:25,700 --> 00:22:27,700 You want the real me, man. Right? 425 00:22:27,733 --> 00:22:29,100 This is the real me. 426 00:22:29,133 --> 00:22:30,200 I'm gonna give you the real me. 427 00:22:30,233 --> 00:22:31,600 Whatever you want. 428 00:22:31,633 --> 00:22:33,733 Forget all your preconceived notions. 429 00:22:33,767 --> 00:22:36,667 This is Taipei and this is Dubfire. 430 00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:42,600 Initially, there was resistance, you know? 431 00:22:42,633 --> 00:22:46,500 The techno scene is very cliquey. 432 00:22:49,233 --> 00:22:52,467 You have to kinda show them that you're one of them. 433 00:22:52,500 --> 00:22:54,800 Ali spent a lot of time convincing people 434 00:22:54,833 --> 00:22:56,567 that he was part of that new scene 435 00:22:56,600 --> 00:22:59,300 and, you know, we had to help him do that. 436 00:22:59,333 --> 00:23:02,533 I remember him sometimes paying to play. 437 00:23:02,567 --> 00:23:06,267 So, he would be in the UK 438 00:23:06,300 --> 00:23:09,033 and then all of a sudden he has to got to DC10 439 00:23:09,067 --> 00:23:11,700 and basically he would pay to fly himself, 440 00:23:11,733 --> 00:23:14,600 pay for his flight, his hotel, 441 00:23:14,633 --> 00:23:16,700 and then not get paid. 442 00:23:16,733 --> 00:23:20,233 So, it's an interesting process to build yourself down 443 00:23:20,267 --> 00:23:22,133 so you can build yourself better 444 00:23:22,167 --> 00:23:26,233 and it's admiring to see somebody do that. 445 00:23:26,267 --> 00:23:28,067 Ali was coming to our parties. 446 00:23:28,100 --> 00:23:32,500 When I say our parties, it was in the early 2000s. 447 00:23:32,533 --> 00:23:34,467 This was where my career started off 448 00:23:34,500 --> 00:23:37,567 and I was playing this kind of percussive, 449 00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:41,167 bringing minimal techno into it 450 00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:44,333 before all of this minimal thing started. 451 00:23:44,367 --> 00:23:47,167 So, he was coming to Ibiza and then I met him in the States 452 00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:48,833 and I always paid my respects. 453 00:23:48,867 --> 00:23:51,667 "Wow, Ali! You should do something like way back in time 454 00:23:51,700 --> 00:23:53,600 and why don't you? Yeah." 455 00:23:53,633 --> 00:23:55,500 And he was like, "Yeah, you're right. 456 00:23:55,533 --> 00:23:57,500 Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're right." 457 00:23:57,533 --> 00:24:00,367 And then I remember him coming back from Ibiza 458 00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:02,800 after going to DC10 459 00:24:02,833 --> 00:24:06,633 and being like, nope. This is what we're doing. 460 00:24:06,667 --> 00:24:08,300 This is the approach. 461 00:24:08,333 --> 00:24:10,100 This is what I wanna do. 462 00:24:10,133 --> 00:24:14,667 And he was so blown away from that experience 463 00:24:14,700 --> 00:24:20,100 that it was all he could see, you know? 464 00:24:20,133 --> 00:24:24,300 That was the only way that this was gonna go down. 465 00:24:26,567 --> 00:24:29,600 We started working on records that were very much 466 00:24:29,633 --> 00:24:33,300 inspired from that trip and several others 467 00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:36,633 and Road Kill, I think, 468 00:24:36,667 --> 00:24:40,267 was one of the turning points for sure. 469 00:24:40,300 --> 00:24:42,667 There was a couple, you know? 470 00:24:42,700 --> 00:24:44,333 I think the Lucky Heather remix 471 00:24:44,367 --> 00:24:47,467 was another big turning point for him musically 472 00:24:47,500 --> 00:24:53,467 and also Ribcage was probably, I think, for me, 473 00:24:53,500 --> 00:24:56,733 for him was one of the biggest turning points. 474 00:24:56,767 --> 00:25:02,400 After that, I think it really helped solidify 475 00:25:02,433 --> 00:25:04,533 his sort of sound and style 476 00:25:04,567 --> 00:25:08,300 and I feel like that record 477 00:25:08,333 --> 00:25:10,233 has a lot of Ali in it. 478 00:25:11,667 --> 00:25:13,333 I do remember that I asked Ali, 479 00:25:13,367 --> 00:25:14,833 can I release that? 480 00:25:14,867 --> 00:25:17,533 And he was like, "No, we already gave it to local guys 481 00:25:17,567 --> 00:25:19,567 and it's gonna be just like number one." 482 00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:21,467 And I remember that really well 483 00:25:21,500 --> 00:25:25,133 because Ali made some great music before and afterwards, 484 00:25:25,167 --> 00:25:28,067 but Ribcage was a track which 485 00:25:28,100 --> 00:25:31,467 kind of was two tracks in one, you know? 486 00:25:31,500 --> 00:25:33,700 It was like there was a really different beginning 487 00:25:33,733 --> 00:25:35,267 to the very different end, 488 00:25:35,300 --> 00:25:36,833 but it made total sense. 489 00:25:36,867 --> 00:25:38,533 And there, you suddenly had a track 490 00:25:38,567 --> 00:25:40,200 that put you on a journey. 491 00:25:40,233 --> 00:25:42,233 Not only the DJ set puts you on a journey, 492 00:25:42,267 --> 00:25:43,833 also the little track puts you on a journey. 493 00:25:43,867 --> 00:25:49,500 When Ribcage came out it was really such a defining sound. 494 00:25:49,533 --> 00:25:51,167 It was so unique, you know, 495 00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:52,600 and yet it worked so well. 496 00:25:52,633 --> 00:25:56,333 And it was also an inspiration of saying, 497 00:25:56,367 --> 00:25:58,033 "Hey, you know what? 498 00:25:58,067 --> 00:25:59,733 It doesn't matter where you are at any given point. 499 00:25:59,767 --> 00:26:02,533 If you have belief and talent, you can take it anywhere." 500 00:26:02,567 --> 00:26:04,400 And that's the beauty of this music, I guess. 501 00:26:04,433 --> 00:26:06,567 Electronic music gives you the ability 502 00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:10,333 to really become or create whatever you want. 503 00:26:11,733 --> 00:26:14,367 And he showed it on a really high level 504 00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:16,800 and it showed guts and it showed excitement 505 00:26:16,833 --> 00:26:19,500 and it showed commitment 506 00:26:19,533 --> 00:26:21,367 and there was no doubt in my mind 507 00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:24,833 he would take it all the way to where he has taken it. 508 00:26:24,867 --> 00:26:27,533 I think the singles, when he put both of them out, 509 00:26:27,567 --> 00:26:31,700 I mean, people from Armin van Buuran, to Tiesto, 510 00:26:31,733 --> 00:26:34,467 to Richie Hawtin were playing 511 00:26:34,500 --> 00:26:37,567 and I think people were really taken aback. 512 00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:42,367 They were like, "Wow, where is this coming from?" 513 00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:44,733 You know, there was this darkness and this anger 514 00:26:44,767 --> 00:26:50,467 and this new sound that people not only didn't hear, 515 00:26:50,500 --> 00:26:52,233 but they weren't expecting from a guy 516 00:26:52,267 --> 00:26:54,467 that had done Say Hello and Flashdance. 517 00:26:54,500 --> 00:26:57,567 So, I think there was a real surprise 518 00:26:57,600 --> 00:26:59,733 and I think there was a real appreciation 519 00:26:59,767 --> 00:27:02,567 for his great creative art. 520 00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:05,400 [speaking German] 521 00:27:43,133 --> 00:27:47,700 I mean, it was like a "What the fuck?" moment for me. 522 00:27:47,733 --> 00:27:50,333 I don't remember exactly when it was, 523 00:27:50,367 --> 00:27:52,100 but it was definitely 524 00:27:52,133 --> 00:27:56,633 when I heard that he came from another place, 525 00:27:56,667 --> 00:27:59,633 he really came from a place where a lot of techno records 526 00:27:59,667 --> 00:28:00,733 weren't coming from at the time. 527 00:28:00,767 --> 00:28:04,267 So, I knew he had something. 528 00:28:04,300 --> 00:28:07,500 [upbeat techno music] 529 00:29:34,867 --> 00:29:37,767 Sven ended up being one of the early supporters. 530 00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:41,833 He put out Ali's first techno compilation on Cocoon. 531 00:29:41,867 --> 00:29:45,600 He started to bring Ali into Cocoon. 532 00:29:45,633 --> 00:29:48,267 Nights in Ibiza are at the Cocoon Club. 533 00:29:48,300 --> 00:29:52,667 So, he was a strong supporter before Richie even was 534 00:29:52,700 --> 00:29:54,700 and I think it was because he connected 535 00:29:54,733 --> 00:29:58,700 with how genuine and how driven 536 00:29:58,733 --> 00:30:02,567 by creative reasons the transition was. 537 00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:05,333 That's why it worked, because it was genuine. 538 00:30:05,367 --> 00:30:08,367 [audience cheering] 539 00:30:46,500 --> 00:30:49,567 Since many years, I love this guy. 540 00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:52,600 [audience cheering] 541 00:31:02,667 --> 00:31:05,367 [Ali] They wanted me to stumble. 542 00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:07,600 They wanted me to find my own way, 543 00:31:07,633 --> 00:31:10,600 but they weren't just watching me 544 00:31:12,267 --> 00:31:14,600 fall apart, so to speak. 545 00:31:14,633 --> 00:31:18,600 They were really there to give me moral support, friendship. 546 00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:21,800 They were there to give me 547 00:31:21,833 --> 00:31:24,667 creative advice, technical advice. 548 00:31:26,167 --> 00:31:29,167 So, I'm pretty indebted to those guys. 549 00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:31,500 You know, and I'll never forget what they did. 550 00:31:31,533 --> 00:31:34,700 [upbeat techno music] 551 00:32:12,100 --> 00:32:16,300 I worked for the first tour manager and babysitter 552 00:32:16,333 --> 00:32:17,633 and party-bringer. 553 00:32:17,667 --> 00:32:19,833 [laughing] 554 00:32:19,867 --> 00:32:23,200 And basically, the main thing is probably 555 00:32:23,233 --> 00:32:25,300 setting up all the equipment 556 00:32:25,333 --> 00:32:28,467 and basically just making sure that everything runs smoothly 557 00:32:28,500 --> 00:32:33,467 from pickups, hotels, dinners. 558 00:32:33,500 --> 00:32:36,467 So, he can basically just walk in, do the gig, 559 00:32:36,500 --> 00:32:38,267 feel comfortable not having to worry 560 00:32:38,300 --> 00:32:40,467 about anything sort of technical. 561 00:32:40,500 --> 00:32:43,667 I'm making sure we're picked up, hotels are paid, 562 00:32:43,700 --> 00:32:45,567 dinner's looked after. 563 00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:48,233 So, basically, he can just come do his thing 564 00:32:48,267 --> 00:32:51,467 without having to stress about any of the small details. 565 00:32:51,500 --> 00:32:54,033 So, that's my main part of the job. 566 00:32:54,067 --> 00:32:56,100 He's always been someone that really likes to push 567 00:32:56,133 --> 00:32:58,300 the limits of technology 568 00:32:58,333 --> 00:33:00,500 and it's really good working with him on that 569 00:33:00,533 --> 00:33:06,067 because we always just try to incorporate something new. 570 00:33:06,100 --> 00:33:09,600 So, a lot of people talk about my rattlesnake effect, 571 00:33:09,633 --> 00:33:13,833 which is just this tape delay thing that I have. 572 00:33:13,867 --> 00:33:17,200 [upbeat techno music] 573 00:33:21,633 --> 00:33:23,533 And what I try to do a lot of times 574 00:33:23,567 --> 00:33:29,133 is to create a new version of what I'm playing 575 00:33:29,167 --> 00:33:32,133 just by looping different songs together 576 00:33:32,167 --> 00:33:33,633 and maybe I'll eventually-- 577 00:33:33,667 --> 00:33:35,467 I mean, if I'm having too much fun 578 00:33:35,500 --> 00:33:38,033 just looping parts of a track, 579 00:33:38,067 --> 00:33:39,633 I'll just leave it at that 580 00:33:39,667 --> 00:33:42,467 and other times, eventually, I'll kick in the track 581 00:33:42,500 --> 00:33:46,367 and then it creates a pretty great 582 00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:48,567 feeling in the whole room. So, yeah. 583 00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:50,400 Mike, have you seen the fader plugs? 584 00:33:50,433 --> 00:33:52,200 -[Mike] That's insane. -Yeah. 585 00:33:52,233 --> 00:33:53,200 Traktor controller. Traktor controller. 586 00:33:53,233 --> 00:33:54,633 Yeah, for TraKKtor. 587 00:33:54,667 --> 00:33:56,233 All four decks. Everything. 588 00:33:56,267 --> 00:33:57,633 A, B, C, D. See? 589 00:33:59,100 --> 00:34:01,600 -Yeah. -That's something else. 590 00:34:01,633 --> 00:34:04,133 He has also great insight on the DJ business 591 00:34:04,167 --> 00:34:06,667 and also what the DJ really needs in the booth. 592 00:34:06,700 --> 00:34:08,833 So, he's one of the guys that we like to talk to 593 00:34:08,867 --> 00:34:10,500 even though, I've got to admit, 594 00:34:10,533 --> 00:34:13,567 when we met it was really more private 595 00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:16,567 and really just hang out and learn a little bit 596 00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:20,267 about the DJ life and maybe 597 00:34:20,300 --> 00:34:26,200 one of the managers of one of the companies in our industry. 598 00:34:28,500 --> 00:34:31,500 [Speaking Japanese] 599 00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:28,633 [Ali] It's a powerful feeling. 600 00:35:28,667 --> 00:35:32,500 I mean, DJing can be extremely powerful. 601 00:35:32,533 --> 00:35:34,767 You can be in a situation where 602 00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:39,233 you're in complete control of the crowd. 603 00:35:39,267 --> 00:35:42,467 And that can make you feel, you know, 604 00:35:42,500 --> 00:35:44,133 some people have thrown around that word 605 00:35:44,167 --> 00:35:45,700 and there was that Faithless song, I remember, 606 00:35:45,733 --> 00:35:47,633 like, God is a DJ or whatever, 607 00:35:47,667 --> 00:35:51,033 but it can make you feel god-like in some ways. 608 00:35:51,067 --> 00:35:53,467 When you're sort of above ground level, 609 00:35:53,500 --> 00:35:57,567 when you're, you know, in your pulpit, 610 00:35:57,600 --> 00:36:00,633 it can have a very, you know, 611 00:36:00,667 --> 00:36:04,533 powerfully spiritual effect on you 612 00:36:04,567 --> 00:36:08,167 to be in control of so many people. 613 00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:11,500 [soft dramatic music] 614 00:36:27,433 --> 00:36:29,467 There's so many different parameters at play. 615 00:36:29,500 --> 00:36:31,333 There's so many different variables 616 00:36:31,367 --> 00:36:34,200 that sometimes are working with you, 617 00:36:34,233 --> 00:36:35,633 sometimes are working against you 618 00:36:35,667 --> 00:36:37,267 that you have to navigate through to find 619 00:36:37,300 --> 00:36:39,500 that point where you connect 620 00:36:39,533 --> 00:36:42,500 and when you connect, it's a beautiful-- 621 00:36:42,533 --> 00:36:45,033 it's like the eye of the storm, you know? 622 00:36:45,067 --> 00:36:50,633 It's like that calm, serene place 623 00:36:50,667 --> 00:36:52,600 that pilots have driven into, 624 00:36:52,633 --> 00:36:54,733 that scientists have discussed 625 00:36:54,767 --> 00:36:57,833 as a very unusual, very calm place 626 00:36:57,867 --> 00:37:01,600 in the middle of what could be the worst storm in history 627 00:37:01,633 --> 00:37:03,700 and that's what playing in a club is like 628 00:37:03,733 --> 00:37:05,633 because you're surrounded by all these things. 629 00:37:05,667 --> 00:37:09,167 There's people knocking things over around you, 630 00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:13,467 there's drinks falling on your laptop and on the mixer 631 00:37:13,500 --> 00:37:15,467 and a certain audience member's 632 00:37:15,500 --> 00:37:17,500 trying to get your attention, 633 00:37:17,533 --> 00:37:20,733 certain people behind you or the entourage of the promoter 634 00:37:20,767 --> 00:37:22,600 are trying to get you to pose for photos 635 00:37:22,633 --> 00:37:23,767 and all this other stuff 636 00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:25,667 and while all that's going on, 637 00:37:25,700 --> 00:37:28,500 while all that's happening around you, 638 00:37:28,533 --> 00:37:30,167 which is the hurricane, 639 00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:31,600 you're in the center of it all 640 00:37:31,633 --> 00:37:35,100 and you're trying to find that inner peace, 641 00:37:35,133 --> 00:37:37,633 that inner connectivity, 642 00:37:37,667 --> 00:37:40,733 not only within yourself, but with the technology 643 00:37:40,767 --> 00:37:43,667 and ultimately with the audience 644 00:37:43,700 --> 00:37:46,467 and you're trying to bring people into that space. 645 00:37:46,500 --> 00:37:50,333 It's a very warm and inviting space to be in. 646 00:37:50,367 --> 00:37:54,033 [electronic ethereal music] 647 00:38:16,667 --> 00:38:20,400 [music on headphones] 648 00:38:43,167 --> 00:38:45,500 [brass horns] 649 00:38:57,633 --> 00:39:00,800 [upbeat techno music] 650 00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:47,400 [speaking Japanese] 651 00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:56,133 [upbeat techno music] 652 00:41:06,267 --> 00:41:09,267 [speaking Japanese] 653 00:42:12,500 --> 00:42:15,667 [upbeat techno music] 654 00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:51,100 I think what's great about working with Ali 655 00:42:51,133 --> 00:42:54,267 is he travels a lot, he sees lots of things, 656 00:42:54,300 --> 00:42:55,467 he's very open-minded, 657 00:42:55,500 --> 00:42:57,833 he takes in lots of influences 658 00:42:57,867 --> 00:43:01,300 and also, he's willing to take a risk, you know? 659 00:43:01,333 --> 00:43:05,367 We've tried to do a 3D show for 4000 people 660 00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:06,667 and we'd never done it before, 661 00:43:06,700 --> 00:43:08,633 we didn't know how it was gonna work, 662 00:43:08,667 --> 00:43:12,267 and we tried that and it worked, 663 00:43:12,300 --> 00:43:15,233 but you don't always know how these things are gonna work or not or how 664 00:43:15,267 --> 00:43:19,400 much affect they can have. Sometimes, you can have things that 665 00:43:19,433 --> 00:43:21,833 you don't expect to be a big deal 666 00:43:21,867 --> 00:43:24,533 or they're almost something that just happens 667 00:43:24,567 --> 00:43:28,600 and that's when it becomes something of focus. 668 00:43:30,233 --> 00:43:31,667 But what's nice working with Ali 669 00:43:31,700 --> 00:43:33,567 is he's prepared to let those things happen. 670 00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:38,200 He's not too precious or controlling of things 671 00:43:38,233 --> 00:43:40,233 and he places a lot of trust in us 672 00:43:40,267 --> 00:43:42,167 and I think because of that, 673 00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:44,167 he's got the best out of us really. 674 00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:47,367 [upbeat techno music] 675 00:44:12,333 --> 00:44:15,100 [sheet rustling] 676 00:44:18,067 --> 00:44:20,167 When people look at how much money you get 677 00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:22,633 for a night to play a show 678 00:44:22,667 --> 00:44:25,300 and how long you play, maybe you play an hour or two, 679 00:44:25,333 --> 00:44:27,633 it just seems like, "Wow, you make a lot of money." 680 00:44:27,667 --> 00:44:29,633 But then if you think about it, 681 00:44:29,667 --> 00:44:31,100 yeah, I just played an hour, 682 00:44:31,133 --> 00:44:33,567 but I spent eight hours to get to this club 683 00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:37,200 on 30 minutes sleep from the night before 684 00:44:37,233 --> 00:44:41,533 and after this it's gonna take me 12 hours to travel home. 685 00:44:41,567 --> 00:44:43,100 If you scale that whole thing, 686 00:44:43,133 --> 00:44:47,467 you're getting paid like this much to make music 687 00:44:47,500 --> 00:44:48,833 and then this much for traveling 688 00:44:48,867 --> 00:44:51,733 and dealing with the music life, 689 00:44:51,767 --> 00:44:56,533 maybe partying too much and half asleep on a plane 690 00:44:56,567 --> 00:44:58,767 and stuff like that. 691 00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:01,533 I don't think that people realize 692 00:45:01,567 --> 00:45:03,567 how much travel is involved 693 00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:06,200 until you really look at a DJs entire schedule. 694 00:45:06,233 --> 00:45:10,700 If you're club-goer A and you're sitting in Dubai 695 00:45:10,733 --> 00:45:12,267 and Ali shows up to play a gig, 696 00:45:12,300 --> 00:45:14,167 you're like, "Wow, that's great. 697 00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:16,567 Ali was here, I'm sure he's staying three or four nights 698 00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:18,533 and he's spending time at the pool." 699 00:45:18,567 --> 00:45:21,200 No. Ali is probably there for 12 hours 700 00:45:21,233 --> 00:45:23,467 and he's playing a set and then he has to get on a plane 701 00:45:23,500 --> 00:45:25,300 to fly somewhere else 702 00:45:25,333 --> 00:45:27,500 and there has to be time to sleep so that he's refreshed 703 00:45:27,533 --> 00:45:31,200 so that the next day when he plays Aman 704 00:45:31,233 --> 00:45:36,600 or Beirut or Istanbul or London or Toyko, 705 00:45:36,633 --> 00:45:39,400 he's ready and fresh to perform again 706 00:45:39,433 --> 00:45:41,533 and to be creative and to deliver the experience 707 00:45:41,567 --> 00:45:44,633 that the club-goer wants to have. 708 00:45:44,667 --> 00:45:46,533 You can't be a successful DJ, really, 709 00:45:46,567 --> 00:45:48,300 unless you love traveling. 710 00:45:48,333 --> 00:45:50,233 Maybe for a couple of years you can, 711 00:45:50,267 --> 00:45:52,500 but you've got to love getting on that plane, 712 00:45:52,533 --> 00:45:54,600 going to different places, 713 00:45:54,633 --> 00:45:57,200 revisiting and exploring a little bit. 714 00:45:57,233 --> 00:45:58,567 And Ali loves that. 715 00:45:58,600 --> 00:46:02,600 He loves where that type of situation takes you. 716 00:46:04,300 --> 00:46:05,633 When you go to a new place, 717 00:46:05,667 --> 00:46:07,200 you want to meet new people, 718 00:46:07,233 --> 00:46:08,500 you want to go to new places, 719 00:46:08,533 --> 00:46:11,267 you want to try new food, new drinks, 720 00:46:11,300 --> 00:46:14,767 and explore everything about that place. 721 00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:16,833 And then, when I'd go on a weekend 722 00:46:16,867 --> 00:46:18,833 and you go from club to club, 723 00:46:18,867 --> 00:46:20,633 maybe you have two shows in a night 724 00:46:20,667 --> 00:46:23,600 and you're not sleeping and you're like, oh, my god, 725 00:46:23,633 --> 00:46:25,533 I'm never drinking again, 726 00:46:25,567 --> 00:46:27,267 I'm like, this is too much for me, 727 00:46:27,300 --> 00:46:31,133 but then slowly you get better at it and better at it. 728 00:46:31,167 --> 00:46:33,733 Kinda like being in the Army. 729 00:46:33,767 --> 00:46:35,367 You know, when you first join the Army, 730 00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:38,100 I'm sure you're not used to only two hours sleep, 731 00:46:38,133 --> 00:46:39,833 but later you're like, oh, I have 15 minutes, 732 00:46:39,867 --> 00:46:41,400 I'm gonna sleep right now. 733 00:46:41,433 --> 00:46:43,033 And then, you wake up and you're fine. 734 00:46:43,067 --> 00:46:44,667 You just train your body to deal 735 00:46:44,700 --> 00:46:46,633 with that kind of lifestyle. 736 00:46:46,667 --> 00:46:48,600 I need sleep and I love to sleep. 737 00:46:48,633 --> 00:46:52,033 Definitely everybody needs sleep and it's very healthy, 738 00:46:52,067 --> 00:46:55,033 but it's funny because during the week, 739 00:46:55,067 --> 00:46:57,300 if I would sleep only for two hours, 740 00:46:57,333 --> 00:46:59,333 the next day I would be like, "Oh, my god. 741 00:46:59,367 --> 00:47:00,733 I only slept two hours." 742 00:47:00,767 --> 00:47:03,133 But on a weekend or when I'm on tour 743 00:47:03,167 --> 00:47:05,333 and because of your flight schedules or whatever, 744 00:47:05,367 --> 00:47:07,100 you get only two hours of sleep, it's okay. 745 00:47:07,133 --> 00:47:09,633 You're like, I got two hours of sleep, you know? 746 00:47:09,667 --> 00:47:11,567 I can deal with the rest of the night 747 00:47:11,600 --> 00:47:15,500 and that basically shows you it's all a mindset thing. 748 00:47:15,533 --> 00:47:17,233 I mean, ultimately, of course you need sleep, 749 00:47:17,267 --> 00:47:20,633 you need rest, but you can do two, three days 750 00:47:20,667 --> 00:47:23,200 with a little bit of amount of sleep 751 00:47:23,233 --> 00:47:26,400 and you can still manage to do your things in the right way. 752 00:47:26,433 --> 00:47:29,633 [dark dramatic music] 753 00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:13,467 You don't get much sleep over the weekend 754 00:48:13,500 --> 00:48:15,500 when you're doing these kind of events. 755 00:48:15,533 --> 00:48:19,367 But not only that, we do have a daytime life as well. 756 00:48:19,400 --> 00:48:24,767 We have relationships, married, kids, 757 00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:26,233 I have a record label to run, 758 00:48:26,267 --> 00:48:27,767 I have a radio show, 759 00:48:29,633 --> 00:48:31,567 I do a lot of remixes, 760 00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:33,600 I work in the studio. 761 00:48:33,633 --> 00:48:37,167 All of these things are cumbersome of what makes a DJ. 762 00:48:37,200 --> 00:48:38,800 And also, when we put the events on, 763 00:48:38,833 --> 00:48:40,800 things all need to be worked out in meetings, 764 00:48:40,833 --> 00:48:42,500 things that you have to go and see, 765 00:48:42,533 --> 00:48:46,500 and not only that, we have people that we need to see 766 00:48:46,533 --> 00:48:49,300 from a financial point of view. 767 00:48:49,333 --> 00:48:51,467 You know, marketing structures, 768 00:48:51,500 --> 00:48:53,333 all this kind of stuff. 769 00:48:53,367 --> 00:48:58,100 It really is a part of-- this success 770 00:48:58,133 --> 00:49:03,633 has created all of what we basically 771 00:49:03,667 --> 00:49:06,467 need to understand and what we need to go through 772 00:49:06,500 --> 00:49:08,400 to be able to go to that party 773 00:49:08,433 --> 00:49:11,600 and do what we do at the other end of it 774 00:49:11,633 --> 00:49:13,500 and that is all time. 775 00:49:13,533 --> 00:49:15,633 It takes so much time, 776 00:49:15,667 --> 00:49:17,033 but it's necessary to do it 777 00:49:17,067 --> 00:49:18,500 otherwise the wheels of the industry 778 00:49:18,533 --> 00:49:20,300 doesn't keep turning if you're just like 779 00:49:20,333 --> 00:49:21,833 [yawning] 780 00:49:21,867 --> 00:49:23,767 "What time is it? Eight o'clock in the evening. 781 00:49:23,800 --> 00:49:26,533 All right, I'll get some food and go to the party." 782 00:49:26,567 --> 00:49:28,633 All these meetings and things are backed up 783 00:49:28,667 --> 00:49:30,567 and things that you need to know about 784 00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:31,633 have not been done 785 00:49:31,667 --> 00:49:33,767 and then, it all falls down. 786 00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:35,500 So, you have to be on top of the game, 787 00:49:35,533 --> 00:49:38,233 not just from the DJing point of view, 788 00:49:38,267 --> 00:49:39,600 but from the nuts and bolts of the industry 789 00:49:39,633 --> 00:49:41,567 point of view as well. 790 00:49:41,600 --> 00:49:44,100 DJing or playing music for people, 791 00:49:44,133 --> 00:49:45,700 it's a lonesome life. 792 00:49:46,800 --> 00:49:48,767 Much like the life of a cowboy 793 00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:55,267 and life on the road is like life on the prairie. 794 00:49:55,300 --> 00:49:59,300 Alone to your words, to your horse and yourself. 795 00:50:01,667 --> 00:50:03,567 [Camille] I never went on tour with him 796 00:50:03,600 --> 00:50:06,600 and I was used to being on my own all the time. 797 00:50:06,633 --> 00:50:08,400 So, I'd be like, see you when you get back, 798 00:50:08,433 --> 00:50:10,567 and I had no idea where he would go. 799 00:50:10,600 --> 00:50:12,400 So, I was like, "Oh, okay. You're going to DJ. 800 00:50:12,433 --> 00:50:13,767 Cool. See ya." 801 00:50:13,800 --> 00:50:15,500 And then, he would come back and he was like, 802 00:50:15,533 --> 00:50:17,167 I'm so tired, and I was like, 803 00:50:17,200 --> 00:50:19,167 "What did you do? 804 00:50:19,200 --> 00:50:20,200 Where have you been? 805 00:50:20,233 --> 00:50:22,067 What's going on with you?" 806 00:50:22,100 --> 00:50:25,033 But he never was like, 807 00:50:25,067 --> 00:50:26,767 "Oh, I'm just gonna sit back and chill." 808 00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:29,567 He always wanted to do something or go out. 809 00:50:29,600 --> 00:50:35,333 So, I probably didn't get the end of that being tired thing 810 00:50:35,367 --> 00:50:38,667 until like two years later into the relationship. 811 00:50:38,700 --> 00:50:40,233 I think to stay on top of everything, 812 00:50:40,267 --> 00:50:42,833 all the DJs just take lots of drugs. 813 00:50:42,867 --> 00:50:45,400 I say that because I think some people out there 814 00:50:45,433 --> 00:50:47,667 actually think that's the case 815 00:50:47,700 --> 00:50:50,633 and that's the only way it actually works. 816 00:50:50,667 --> 00:50:56,267 Most of the DJs I know have had crazy times in their lives 817 00:50:56,300 --> 00:50:59,167 and in their careers where perhaps they were experimenting 818 00:50:59,200 --> 00:51:02,733 and drinking a lot and doing lots of things, 819 00:51:02,767 --> 00:51:05,367 but most of the DJs now 820 00:51:05,400 --> 00:51:08,467 who are on top of their game 821 00:51:08,500 --> 00:51:10,533 are quite disciplined. 822 00:51:10,567 --> 00:51:14,733 So, they have a schedule that's pretty intense 823 00:51:14,767 --> 00:51:17,800 between staying fit-- 824 00:51:17,833 --> 00:51:20,533 because staying fit means playing your best. 825 00:51:20,567 --> 00:51:23,400 Staying fit also means a clear mind 826 00:51:23,433 --> 00:51:26,800 that allows you to work and run companies. 827 00:51:26,833 --> 00:51:30,167 [upbeat techno music] 828 00:51:53,667 --> 00:51:58,033 I always make sure that Ali has time for Ali. 829 00:51:58,067 --> 00:52:02,067 I've introduced him to wellness doctors, 830 00:52:02,100 --> 00:52:03,333 to physical therapists. 831 00:52:03,367 --> 00:52:05,567 I think of Ali as a brand. 832 00:52:05,600 --> 00:52:07,300 I think of DJs like brands 833 00:52:07,333 --> 00:52:10,500 and I think that, like professional athletes, 834 00:52:10,533 --> 00:52:13,767 there's wear and tear on the body. 835 00:52:13,800 --> 00:52:15,567 There's constant travel, there's no sleep. 836 00:52:15,600 --> 00:52:18,767 So, I recommend people for him to go see 837 00:52:18,800 --> 00:52:20,633 and he listens to me and we work out together 838 00:52:20,667 --> 00:52:23,267 and I think that there's a whole upkeep 839 00:52:23,300 --> 00:52:25,300 or maintenance element of his lifestyle 840 00:52:25,333 --> 00:52:27,667 that helps keep him going. 841 00:52:27,700 --> 00:52:30,300 You know, we're at the gym very early or swimming, 842 00:52:30,333 --> 00:52:32,467 we're then straight into the office. 843 00:52:32,500 --> 00:52:35,667 We're having lunch and dinner meetings, 844 00:52:35,700 --> 00:52:38,100 which are usually, you know, 845 00:52:38,133 --> 00:52:41,333 very rarely do I see any of us having 846 00:52:41,367 --> 00:52:43,133 really personal time. 847 00:52:46,300 --> 00:52:48,067 It's always somewhat mixed. 848 00:52:48,100 --> 00:52:50,400 If I'm out with Ali, 849 00:52:50,433 --> 00:52:52,833 probably I'm out with Laura, my girlfriend, 850 00:52:52,867 --> 00:52:54,767 and Camille, his girlfriend, 851 00:52:54,800 --> 00:52:56,467 and we're talking personal, 852 00:52:56,500 --> 00:52:57,733 we're talking into business, 853 00:52:57,767 --> 00:52:59,333 we're going back and forth, 854 00:52:59,367 --> 00:53:03,067 and that's kind of how the whole lifestyle is. 855 00:53:03,100 --> 00:53:04,467 Everything is mixed. 856 00:53:04,500 --> 00:53:08,000 [animated conversation] 857 00:53:11,500 --> 00:53:13,233 This isn't a nine to five job. 858 00:53:13,267 --> 00:53:16,300 We don't punch in, you know? 859 00:53:16,333 --> 00:53:18,300 It is a job because it makes our money, 860 00:53:18,333 --> 00:53:20,000 but this is our life 861 00:53:21,133 --> 00:53:24,267 and we really love what we do. 862 00:53:24,300 --> 00:53:29,033 So, our personal time and fun time is our work time. 863 00:53:29,067 --> 00:53:34,767 So, it's very hard to say when anything starts or stops. 864 00:53:34,800 --> 00:53:38,233 [loud bass music] 865 00:53:51,633 --> 00:53:54,633 [high pitched ring] 866 00:54:02,067 --> 00:54:05,500 DJs are a bit like mice on the wheel kind of thing, 867 00:54:05,533 --> 00:54:08,567 always spinning, always pleasing the next person, 868 00:54:08,600 --> 00:54:10,567 and then forgetting to please yourself almost. 869 00:54:10,600 --> 00:54:12,467 You think you're pleasing yourself 870 00:54:12,500 --> 00:54:14,500 because everyone is standing in front of you going crazy, 871 00:54:14,533 --> 00:54:15,833 but it's not really. 872 00:54:15,867 --> 00:54:19,667 So, you have to enjoy the process of doing it 873 00:54:19,700 --> 00:54:22,033 as opposed to just turning up, 874 00:54:22,067 --> 00:54:24,800 thinking I'm going to enjoy it when I have the day off. 875 00:54:24,833 --> 00:54:28,067 You've got to enjoy the whole thing. 876 00:54:28,100 --> 00:54:30,533 [Guetta] What I feel is 877 00:54:30,567 --> 00:54:32,733 life gives you a blessing. 878 00:54:34,167 --> 00:54:36,833 The blessing of being successful 879 00:54:36,867 --> 00:54:41,467 when there are millions of people out there 880 00:54:41,500 --> 00:54:46,467 that are dreaming to have half of the success 881 00:54:46,500 --> 00:54:49,633 that we are having 882 00:54:49,667 --> 00:54:52,467 and when life gives you this blessing, 883 00:54:52,500 --> 00:54:54,433 I think you cannot refuse it. 884 00:54:56,100 --> 00:54:58,100 We do this because we love it. It comes from the heart 885 00:54:58,133 --> 00:54:59,333 and that's what spurs you on, you know? 886 00:54:59,367 --> 00:55:00,567 If you love something so much, 887 00:55:00,600 --> 00:55:02,167 it doesn't matter where you are, 888 00:55:02,200 --> 00:55:04,200 if you're on your own or how tired you are, 889 00:55:04,233 --> 00:55:06,100 you get in the club and if 890 00:55:06,133 --> 00:55:08,200 the show's amazing, it's worthwhile. 891 00:55:08,233 --> 00:55:09,567 It's worth being tired. 892 00:55:09,600 --> 00:55:11,067 It's worth not seeing your loved ones. 893 00:55:11,100 --> 00:55:14,167 We do this because we love it. No other reason. 894 00:55:14,200 --> 00:55:17,333 There's a lot of difficulties along the way, 895 00:55:17,367 --> 00:55:20,233 but at the end of the day, I think for all of us, 896 00:55:20,267 --> 00:55:23,533 it's that moment that we get to the DJ booth or the stage 897 00:55:23,567 --> 00:55:26,133 and we hit play that it all makes sense. 898 00:55:26,167 --> 00:55:29,400 [upbeat techno music]. 899 00:56:49,600 --> 00:56:54,167 When he first stepped into the room 900 00:56:54,200 --> 00:57:00,300 I already knew that he was such a Japan freak 901 00:57:00,333 --> 00:57:05,100 and he knew so much about Japan 902 00:57:05,133 --> 00:57:07,567 in every different levels 903 00:57:07,600 --> 00:57:10,367 and he's just a great guy, you know? 904 00:57:10,400 --> 00:57:14,333 He works very hard and he respects the country 905 00:57:14,367 --> 00:57:16,100 and the culture and the people 906 00:57:16,133 --> 00:57:17,833 and also, he knows how to have fun, 907 00:57:17,867 --> 00:57:22,767 how to have great time with the people around him. 908 00:57:22,800 --> 00:57:24,500 Ali, going back to childhood, 909 00:57:24,533 --> 00:57:27,200 always had a fascination with Japan. 910 00:57:27,233 --> 00:57:29,367 It was always something 911 00:57:29,400 --> 00:57:31,500 when anything Japanese would come 912 00:57:31,533 --> 00:57:33,467 on the television when we were kids, 913 00:57:33,500 --> 00:57:36,233 he would sort of stop and tune in 914 00:57:36,267 --> 00:57:39,633 and over the years when he traveled to Tokyo in Japan, 915 00:57:39,667 --> 00:57:42,333 I think he really embraced the culture. 916 00:57:42,367 --> 00:57:44,233 He felt comfortable there 917 00:57:44,267 --> 00:57:48,100 and I think Japanese culture, again, is very meticulous. 918 00:57:48,133 --> 00:57:50,067 There's an emphasis on quality 919 00:57:50,100 --> 00:57:52,467 and I think Ali appreciates those virtues. 920 00:57:52,500 --> 00:57:56,067 [crowd happily shouting] 921 00:58:24,233 --> 00:58:25,067 Yeah. Like this? 922 00:58:25,100 --> 00:58:27,200 West coast, east coast. 923 00:58:28,800 --> 00:58:32,400 So far, he's west coast and new school. 924 00:58:32,433 --> 00:58:34,133 Many people cannot even imagine, 925 00:58:34,167 --> 00:58:39,367 but there is a big extreme change in emotions 926 00:58:39,400 --> 00:58:42,333 when you're on the stage you are at the max 927 00:58:42,367 --> 00:58:44,133 and then you go back to the hotel, 928 00:58:44,167 --> 00:58:46,667 you are alone, you and your room 929 00:58:47,833 --> 00:58:51,567 most of the times, 930 00:58:51,600 --> 00:58:54,800 but I try always to stay with my friends 931 00:58:54,833 --> 00:58:59,533 after a big gig. 932 00:58:59,567 --> 00:59:01,567 Like, I don't know, big festival. 933 00:59:01,600 --> 00:59:03,267 We have the after hours, the after party. 934 00:59:03,300 --> 00:59:04,767 That's why we do after party 935 00:59:04,800 --> 00:59:09,633 because then it's like the celebrating of a success 936 00:59:09,667 --> 00:59:12,367 and I love also, with Ali, 937 00:59:12,400 --> 00:59:16,033 many times we do this because we celebrate together 938 00:59:16,067 --> 00:59:18,400 the music and the freedom. 939 00:59:18,433 --> 00:59:22,833 You know, the amazing thing to stay together 940 00:59:22,867 --> 00:59:24,667 and to share something. 941 00:59:24,700 --> 00:59:28,200 So, for me the continued celebrating. 942 00:59:28,233 --> 00:59:30,600 Of course, not every time with after hours, 943 00:59:30,633 --> 00:59:33,600 but even when I go back to the hotel, 944 00:59:33,633 --> 00:59:37,467 I have this adrenaline, you know, 945 00:59:37,500 --> 00:59:40,833 that is like, I don't know, 946 00:59:40,867 --> 00:59:43,300 after a school exam, you know, 947 00:59:43,333 --> 00:59:47,233 you have this feeling in your stomach, like butterflies, 948 00:59:47,267 --> 00:59:53,067 and I have this before, during, and after. 949 00:59:53,100 --> 00:59:56,633 So, yes. It's special. Very special. 950 00:59:57,633 --> 01:00:00,500 [phone ringing] 951 01:00:05,500 --> 01:00:08,567 [light dramatic music] 952 01:00:19,533 --> 01:00:22,833 We skip from country to country in hours. 953 01:00:22,867 --> 01:00:26,233 We can play in three countries in 24 hours. 954 01:00:26,267 --> 01:00:27,667 Be in Tokyo one weekend 955 01:00:27,700 --> 01:00:30,500 and one Friday in New York the next. 956 01:00:30,533 --> 01:00:32,700 So, our minds work this way 957 01:00:32,733 --> 01:00:37,467 and that fast-paced mindset, 958 01:00:37,500 --> 01:00:40,500 that love of technology which helps us play, 959 01:00:40,533 --> 01:00:42,567 helps us travel, helps us communicate 960 01:00:42,600 --> 01:00:47,800 is something that I think we all felt in Japan 961 01:00:47,833 --> 01:00:51,533 and I think we all had that similar rush, 962 01:00:51,567 --> 01:00:56,067 that excitement and felt like we were 963 01:00:56,100 --> 01:00:59,467 stepping one day ahead of everybody else. 964 01:00:59,500 --> 01:01:02,533 [light dramatic music] 965 01:01:16,700 --> 01:01:19,700 [speaking Japanese] 966 01:01:56,233 --> 01:01:59,400 [upbeat techno music] 967 01:02:09,400 --> 01:02:12,400 [speaking Japanese] 968 01:02:13,500 --> 01:02:16,367 The flavor is fukuzatsu. 969 01:02:16,400 --> 01:02:17,667 So many things. 970 01:02:21,533 --> 01:02:24,167 One little piece. So many things. 971 01:02:24,200 --> 01:02:25,800 -Thank you. -Yeah. 972 01:02:26,867 --> 01:02:30,033 [speaking Japanese] 973 01:02:55,833 --> 01:02:59,167 [upbeat techno music] 974 01:03:00,600 --> 01:03:03,600 [speaking Spanish] 975 01:03:42,133 --> 01:03:45,300 [upbeat techno music] 976 01:03:48,567 --> 01:03:50,100 If I'm anywhere in the world, 977 01:03:50,133 --> 01:03:51,567 Bulgaria or whatever, 978 01:03:51,600 --> 01:03:52,800 I say, right, to Ali. 979 01:03:52,833 --> 01:03:54,367 Where's the best place to eat? 980 01:03:54,400 --> 01:03:55,833 And guaranteed he'll have four or five places 981 01:03:55,867 --> 01:03:57,733 that are just amazing. 982 01:03:57,767 --> 01:03:59,200 It doesn't have to be high-end, 983 01:03:59,233 --> 01:04:00,600 it just has to be good food 984 01:04:00,633 --> 01:04:04,067 and he is one of these DJs that has a love 985 01:04:04,100 --> 01:04:07,133 and the knowledge of where to eat around the world 986 01:04:07,167 --> 01:04:08,500 because it's important to eat good. 987 01:04:08,533 --> 01:04:10,067 It makes you feel good, 988 01:04:10,100 --> 01:04:11,700 you feel happy about what you've eaten, 989 01:04:11,733 --> 01:04:15,300 and you can go into your gig very positive 990 01:04:15,333 --> 01:04:17,400 knowing that you've eaten well 991 01:04:17,433 --> 01:04:18,533 and it has an affect on you. 992 01:04:18,567 --> 01:04:20,333 It really does. 993 01:04:20,367 --> 01:04:23,400 I mean, even more so than any time before in our lives now 994 01:04:23,433 --> 01:04:26,633 that we're all very health conscious about what we eat 995 01:04:26,667 --> 01:04:28,767 and how it makes you feel. 996 01:04:28,800 --> 01:04:33,633 He had the passion with gastronomy with foods. 997 01:04:33,667 --> 01:04:35,533 He's one of the guys, you understand? 998 01:04:35,567 --> 01:04:37,100 He's eating with all those chefs 999 01:04:37,133 --> 01:04:39,133 and everybody knows him. 1000 01:04:40,633 --> 01:04:42,467 That's a nice feeling. 1001 01:04:42,500 --> 01:04:45,267 That's somebody that is so emotional with food, 1002 01:04:45,300 --> 01:04:47,767 but also has a passion with it 1003 01:04:47,800 --> 01:04:51,800 because it's not only food, it's more than that. 1004 01:04:54,633 --> 01:04:57,633 [speaking Japanese] 1005 01:05:24,800 --> 01:05:27,100 DJs are people loving food. 1006 01:05:27,133 --> 01:05:28,767 It's that creative edge, you know? 1007 01:05:28,800 --> 01:05:31,633 When you travel around and actually spend 1008 01:05:31,667 --> 01:05:33,100 most of your meals in restaurants, 1009 01:05:33,133 --> 01:05:36,500 you start to really pick up taste, you know? 1010 01:05:36,533 --> 01:05:39,300 And Ali's a man with a superb taste 1011 01:05:39,333 --> 01:05:40,833 and most people with taste love, 1012 01:05:40,867 --> 01:05:43,733 not only food, but art, fashion, 1013 01:05:43,767 --> 01:05:46,067 and other things in culture, you know? 1014 01:05:46,100 --> 01:05:49,467 And for us, Ali and I, 1015 01:05:49,500 --> 01:05:52,567 one of the top things next to music is-- 1016 01:05:52,600 --> 01:05:54,500 that tops investment in culture is food, you know? 1017 01:05:54,533 --> 01:05:57,533 That taste, the experience, you know? 1018 01:05:57,567 --> 01:05:59,733 They're both experiential events, you know? 1019 01:05:59,767 --> 01:06:01,467 Like both with-- 1020 01:06:01,500 --> 01:06:06,033 It's like embodying more than one sense, you know? 1021 01:06:06,067 --> 01:06:08,633 There's something about that that's just like 1022 01:06:08,667 --> 01:06:10,167 the best thing in life, you know? 1023 01:06:10,200 --> 01:06:14,133 Good food, good music, good friends. 1024 01:06:14,167 --> 01:06:15,667 Throw some good sex in there, 1025 01:06:15,700 --> 01:06:18,067 you can't ask for anything else. 1026 01:06:18,100 --> 01:06:20,200 It's a true story. 1027 01:06:20,233 --> 01:06:22,167 I thought it was good. 1028 01:06:22,200 --> 01:06:24,500 It could have used a bit more seasoning, 1029 01:06:24,533 --> 01:06:27,767 you know, for my palate, 1030 01:06:27,800 --> 01:06:29,733 but very nice. 1031 01:06:29,767 --> 01:06:31,467 Very nice. 1032 01:06:31,500 --> 01:06:32,633 The meat was fantastic. 1033 01:06:32,667 --> 01:06:34,600 Very tender. 1034 01:06:34,633 --> 01:06:36,500 Just for me, a bit more seasoning, 1035 01:06:36,533 --> 01:06:40,600 but I could tell it was made with love, so congrats. 1036 01:06:40,633 --> 01:06:42,167 He is the number one DJ you call 1037 01:06:42,200 --> 01:06:45,333 wherever you are in the world and say, hey, where am I going to eat tonight? 1038 01:06:45,367 --> 01:06:47,267 And he's been there and he's found it. 1039 01:06:47,300 --> 01:06:48,367 He's amazing. 1040 01:06:48,400 --> 01:06:51,233 So, it's all about balance 1041 01:06:51,267 --> 01:06:53,533 and finding something outside of the DJ booth 1042 01:06:53,567 --> 01:06:55,333 to keep you sane. 1043 01:06:55,367 --> 01:06:58,267 Family is obviously a very important part of that, 1044 01:06:58,300 --> 01:07:01,267 but it's having other interests as well. 1045 01:07:01,300 --> 01:07:03,533 Staying at the top is the fucking hardest thing. 1046 01:07:03,567 --> 01:07:06,800 You know, being in this industry for 30 years 1047 01:07:06,833 --> 01:07:09,667 and consistently pushing yourself. 1048 01:07:11,133 --> 01:07:13,533 Society wants a new hotel, 1049 01:07:13,567 --> 01:07:16,667 a new club, a new restaurant, a new DJ. 1050 01:07:16,700 --> 01:07:20,200 We all want new, new, new. 1051 01:07:20,233 --> 01:07:23,633 The point is, you've gotta reinvent yourself. 1052 01:07:23,667 --> 01:07:26,200 You've gotta stay connected 1053 01:07:26,233 --> 01:07:29,300 to globally playing to a younger generation 1054 01:07:29,333 --> 01:07:32,633 while you grow older and grow older gracefully. 1055 01:07:32,667 --> 01:07:34,533 You know, you expect that there's always 1056 01:07:34,567 --> 01:07:36,767 going to be someone new and that's good. 1057 01:07:36,800 --> 01:07:38,800 That's good for all of us, right? 1058 01:07:38,833 --> 01:07:42,533 But learning and understanding that 1059 01:07:42,567 --> 01:07:46,400 is more important and it's more important 1060 01:07:46,433 --> 01:07:49,567 to look at the long haul and the bigger picture 1061 01:07:49,600 --> 01:07:52,533 rather than the five minutes of fame. 1062 01:07:52,567 --> 01:07:56,067 The only positive that you can find 1063 01:07:56,100 --> 01:07:58,300 when you're at the top of the game 1064 01:07:58,333 --> 01:08:02,533 is to be able to be creative and reinvent yourself. 1065 01:08:03,600 --> 01:08:06,167 That's the only thing 1066 01:08:06,200 --> 01:08:08,467 because you don't wanna do it for the money. 1067 01:08:08,500 --> 01:08:10,200 You already have money. 1068 01:08:10,233 --> 01:08:12,733 You don't want to do it to be number one, 1069 01:08:12,767 --> 01:08:14,667 you're already number one. 1070 01:08:14,700 --> 01:08:18,533 So, you already proved your point, 1071 01:08:18,567 --> 01:08:19,767 so it's not about the ego, 1072 01:08:19,800 --> 01:08:21,567 it's not about the money. 1073 01:08:21,600 --> 01:08:25,267 The only way to stay there 1074 01:08:25,300 --> 01:08:28,300 is for it to be about the love 1075 01:08:28,333 --> 01:08:32,533 and the creativity and the challenge to reinvent yourself. 1076 01:08:35,400 --> 01:08:38,300 It's a quarter to, so you might have made your interview. 1077 01:08:38,333 --> 01:08:40,600 Could be rocking and rolling. 1078 01:08:46,133 --> 01:08:48,100 We have a lot of dance music in Hollywood 1079 01:08:48,133 --> 01:08:49,267 and everybody is really into the dance music. 1080 01:08:49,300 --> 01:08:50,567 Yeah. 1081 01:08:50,600 --> 01:08:51,767 People get spoiled real easily, you know. 1082 01:08:51,800 --> 01:08:53,267 Yeah. Yeah. 1083 01:08:53,300 --> 01:08:55,633 -Do you notice that when you're in a hall -and it's all-- -Yeah, totally. 1084 01:08:55,667 --> 01:08:57,033 Like this guy right here. Yeah. 1085 01:08:57,067 --> 01:08:58,267 Everybody's so spoiled. 1086 01:08:58,300 --> 01:09:00,500 -They know the music. They know how to--You know? -Yeah. 1087 01:09:00,533 --> 01:09:01,767 Do you experience that as well? 1088 01:09:01,800 --> 01:09:03,467 Yeah, but I honestly don't even 1089 01:09:03,500 --> 01:09:05,533 have time to think about that, you know. 1090 01:09:05,567 --> 01:09:07,500 I'm just jetting from one gig to another 1091 01:09:07,533 --> 01:09:09,667 or from one airplane to another 1092 01:09:09,700 --> 01:09:11,467 or one studio to another. 1093 01:09:11,500 --> 01:09:13,033 [Woman] Are you still enjoying that life? 1094 01:09:13,067 --> 01:09:14,567 [Ali] Absolutely enjoy, yeah. 1095 01:09:14,600 --> 01:09:17,067 The day I stop enjoying it is the day I'll hang-- 1096 01:09:17,100 --> 01:09:18,500 -You'll quit. -Yeah. I'll quit. 1097 01:09:18,533 --> 01:09:21,467 [Announcer] Make some noise! Dubfire! 1098 01:09:21,500 --> 01:09:24,433 [crowd cheering] 1099 01:09:25,567 --> 01:09:28,533 [upbeat techno music] 1100 01:10:12,667 --> 01:10:16,267 [crowd shouting happily] 1101 01:10:24,500 --> 01:10:25,500 We could use another set. 1102 01:10:25,533 --> 01:10:26,567 My ears are destroyed. 1103 01:10:26,600 --> 01:10:27,500 Already? 1104 01:10:27,533 --> 01:10:28,767 Three hours. 1105 01:10:28,800 --> 01:10:31,000 [laughing] 1106 01:10:32,300 --> 01:10:34,033 It's not that glamorous, you know. 1107 01:10:34,067 --> 01:10:35,467 Sometimes, yes, we take a private jet 1108 01:10:35,500 --> 01:10:36,600 to get to certain parties, 1109 01:10:36,633 --> 01:10:38,167 but I've always said, 1110 01:10:38,200 --> 01:10:41,500 if I've got to take more than two flights 1111 01:10:41,533 --> 01:10:42,800 to get to a venue, 1112 01:10:42,833 --> 01:10:44,500 then I'll take a private jet. 1113 01:10:44,533 --> 01:10:46,500 If now, I'll take domestic airline. 1114 01:10:46,533 --> 01:10:48,200 And the thing with domestic airline, 1115 01:10:48,233 --> 01:10:50,833 you can't ever guarantee that your one or two flights 1116 01:10:50,867 --> 01:10:52,567 are gonna get you where you need to be. 1117 01:10:52,600 --> 01:10:57,600 There's always aircraft malfunctions, 1118 01:10:57,633 --> 01:10:59,567 there's always strikes, 1119 01:10:59,600 --> 01:11:02,500 there's always mistiming of connecting flights. 1120 01:11:02,533 --> 01:11:04,500 You could be waiting on delayed flights for hours 1121 01:11:04,533 --> 01:11:06,467 and you're just sitting there, you know. 1122 01:11:06,500 --> 01:11:08,600 Three hour delay. 1123 01:11:08,633 --> 01:11:10,567 What do you do with that three hours, you know? 1124 01:11:10,600 --> 01:11:15,467 It's terrible when you're just people watching, you know. 1125 01:11:15,500 --> 01:11:18,067 And this is what takes the time and the energy. 1126 01:11:18,100 --> 01:11:19,633 It sucks the energy out of you, 1127 01:11:19,667 --> 01:11:22,300 but you still have to step up, 1128 01:11:22,333 --> 01:11:24,833 you still have to be inside that fire 1129 01:11:24,867 --> 01:11:28,600 that basically gets you to go and do what you're doing. 1130 01:11:28,633 --> 01:11:32,300 [mellow electronic music] 1131 01:12:10,367 --> 01:12:12,400 I'll never forget Ali used to 1132 01:12:12,433 --> 01:12:15,233 point to some of these pictures on the wall 1133 01:12:15,267 --> 01:12:17,533 of the big DJs in the world 1134 01:12:17,567 --> 01:12:21,833 that he was looking at the picture and then looking at me. 1135 01:12:21,867 --> 01:12:26,100 "Mom, one day I'll be as famous as this person." 1136 01:12:26,133 --> 01:12:29,633 And another big dream that he had, 1137 01:12:29,667 --> 01:12:32,300 he said, "One day can you imagine, 1138 01:12:32,333 --> 01:12:35,633 one day I'm going to travel all over the world 1139 01:12:35,667 --> 01:12:37,767 to see the whole world." 1140 01:12:37,800 --> 01:12:43,300 And the shine on his eyes as he was passionately talking 1141 01:12:43,333 --> 01:12:47,800 about being one of those big DJs, 1142 01:12:47,833 --> 01:12:50,533 that pointing to the big picture, 1143 01:12:50,567 --> 01:12:52,067 and seeing the whole world, 1144 01:12:52,100 --> 01:12:53,567 and experiencing the whole world. 1145 01:12:53,600 --> 01:12:57,500 That shine is something that I will never forget. 1146 01:13:03,167 --> 01:13:06,333 [upbeat techno music] 1147 01:14:55,067 --> 01:14:58,267 Because part of realizing was, 1148 01:14:58,300 --> 01:15:00,567 well, what else would I do? 1149 01:15:00,600 --> 01:15:03,500 You know? Go open up a hair salon? 1150 01:15:03,533 --> 01:15:06,600 [laughing] 1151 01:15:06,633 --> 01:15:10,300 I did ask Ali one time, how you doing? 1152 01:15:10,333 --> 01:15:12,067 To work with him, well, 1153 01:15:12,100 --> 01:15:16,567 I am the quiet one, but I need to have some craziness. 1154 01:15:16,600 --> 01:15:18,533 He's more sexy than the other 1155 01:15:18,567 --> 01:15:21,367 and I think he agrees with me. 1156 01:15:21,400 --> 01:15:23,500 It's just like, oh, you're here to have a good time? 1157 01:15:23,533 --> 01:15:25,533 Let's go. Let's fucking party. 1158 01:15:25,567 --> 01:15:28,133 I think he enjoys vampires and, 1159 01:15:28,167 --> 01:15:29,600 from what I can gauge, 1160 01:15:29,633 --> 01:15:31,600 I knew he had a collection of some kind 1161 01:15:31,633 --> 01:15:36,400 of vampire-type magazines on his coffee table as well. 1162 01:15:36,433 --> 01:15:38,267 You know, they brought us horse. 1163 01:15:38,300 --> 01:15:40,500 Really, I'm not kidding. 1164 01:15:40,533 --> 01:15:43,733 The Japanese restaurant drove horse. 1165 01:15:43,767 --> 01:15:45,100 [Interviewer] Okay, you're gonna tell us. 1166 01:15:45,133 --> 01:15:46,100 Whores? 1167 01:15:46,133 --> 01:15:47,233 -Yeah. -Like, sluts? 1168 01:15:47,267 --> 01:15:49,167 No, horse. 1169 01:15:49,200 --> 01:15:50,233 You know the ones that are. 1170 01:15:50,267 --> 01:15:51,267 [Interviewer] Oh, horse! 1171 01:15:51,300 --> 01:15:52,467 I thought you said whores. 1172 01:15:52,500 --> 01:15:53,800 -No. I would love that. -[laughing] 1173 01:15:53,833 --> 01:15:57,767 Ali picked up an extra hobby on top of that 1174 01:15:57,800 --> 01:15:59,600 is to be a food connoisseur 1175 01:15:59,633 --> 01:16:02,267 and post every piece of dish that he's seen 1176 01:16:02,300 --> 01:16:03,833 in the last two years on Instagram. 1177 01:16:03,867 --> 01:16:06,133 [laughing] 1178 01:16:06,167 --> 01:16:07,467 If you don't know me, 1179 01:16:07,500 --> 01:16:09,167 get the fuck off the bus. 1180 01:16:09,200 --> 01:16:11,400 Please. In the nicest possible way. 1181 01:16:11,433 --> 01:16:13,467 Because if I came up to you and said, 1182 01:16:13,500 --> 01:16:16,233 Hey, how you doing? Can I come to your house? 1183 01:16:16,267 --> 01:16:17,833 The answer would be who the fuck are you? 1184 01:16:17,867 --> 01:16:20,133 So, if those are real fucking answers, 1185 01:16:20,167 --> 01:16:22,233 get the fuck off the bus. 1186 01:16:25,333 --> 01:16:27,667 [upbeat techno music] 86089

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