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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:55,350 - Who are you? - I'm Zegue Bamba. 2 00:01:57,080 --> 00:01:58,991 - Are you a witness? - Yes. 3 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:18,429 Bei! 4 00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:24,273 Would the court usher... 5 00:03:26,320 --> 00:03:28,390 ask the gentleman to remove his hat? 6 00:03:33,640 --> 00:03:37,474 Tell him it's not his turn yet. He'll get his chance to speak. 7 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:39,432 He can wait in the courtroom. 8 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:49,029 Words are something... 9 00:03:49,280 --> 00:03:51,510 They can seize you in your heart. 10 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:53,711 It's bad if you keep them inside. 11 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:57,669 You can say what you have in your heart when the time comes. 12 00:03:58,040 --> 00:04:00,349 Since he hasn't asked you to speak, 13 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:02,431 stop now and sit down. 14 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:04,199 It doesn't matter... 15 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:05,674 He says he understands. 16 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:08,800 The goat has its ideas but so does the hen. 17 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:11,071 When you come for something, 18 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:12,679 you have to do it. 19 00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:14,632 You must know why you're here. 20 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:17,671 But coming and leaving without speaking... 21 00:04:17,920 --> 00:04:19,512 Tell him to speak to the court. 22 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:21,831 You haven't been asked to speak. 23 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:24,629 Go and sit down. Your chance will come. 24 00:04:24,840 --> 00:04:26,831 They're just asking you to wait. 25 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:29,919 I'll give him back his word. 26 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:32,951 My words won't remain within me. 27 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:35,388 All right. Thank you. 28 00:06:55,640 --> 00:06:56,629 Chaka... 29 00:07:02,920 --> 00:07:04,239 Ina has a temperature. 30 00:07:26,880 --> 00:07:27,869 Mum... 31 00:07:29,880 --> 00:07:31,029 I'm fine. 32 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:33,110 I'm okay. 33 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:36,552 Yes, everything's fine. 34 00:07:39,040 --> 00:07:40,871 I just have a cold. 35 00:07:43,880 --> 00:07:45,029 She's asleep. 36 00:07:55,720 --> 00:07:57,073 I'm coming back to Dakar. 37 00:08:56,960 --> 00:09:00,350 The railway brought Africa its emancipation. 38 00:09:00,640 --> 00:09:03,234 That's the role of labour regulations in Africa. 39 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:05,510 It awoke political awareness. 40 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:09,309 The World Bank is throwing all that out with the trash. 41 00:09:09,560 --> 00:09:13,439 Our identity, your identity, our history, your history. 42 00:09:13,640 --> 00:09:17,713 What are your feelings when you witness this disaster? 43 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:56,630 I don't care... 44 00:09:56,840 --> 00:10:00,230 You complicate things too. 45 00:10:00,640 --> 00:10:03,108 Here, take this. 46 00:10:03,880 --> 00:10:06,269 The hearing has resumed, please sit down. 47 00:10:08,360 --> 00:10:11,750 If you go in, you're not filming! No one films here. 48 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:18,070 Bei! 49 00:11:06,320 --> 00:11:07,912 I'm singing late tonight. 50 00:11:12,120 --> 00:11:15,032 - Hello, Boire, how are you? - Hello. 51 00:11:17,520 --> 00:11:20,910 It is stated that the share of our states' budgets 52 00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:25,830 devoted to social services and to the repayment of the debt 53 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:30,512 is set as follows between 1992 and 1997. 54 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:33,719 We have examined a few countries. 55 00:11:33,920 --> 00:11:35,353 I shall use those examples. 56 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:41,630 In Kenya, when the national budget allocated 12.6% 57 00:11:41,880 --> 00:11:45,031 to the basic social services, health, education 58 00:11:45,560 --> 00:11:46,834 and infrastructure, 59 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:51,830 40% of that same budget was devoted to repayment of foreign debt. 60 00:11:52,440 --> 00:11:55,750 In Zambia, when 6.7% 61 00:11:56,120 --> 00:11:58,680 was spent on basic social services, 62 00:11:58,880 --> 00:12:02,668 40% was again used to pay off the debt. 63 00:12:02,880 --> 00:12:04,632 In Cameroon, it's even worse. 64 00:12:04,880 --> 00:12:08,270 4% of the budget was spent on basic social services 65 00:12:08,480 --> 00:12:11,790 while 36% was used to pay off the debt. 66 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:13,831 To take a concrete example, 67 00:12:14,040 --> 00:12:17,919 of the 200 billion CFA francs in Cameroon's budget, 68 00:12:18,120 --> 00:12:21,430 only 8 billion was spent on basic social services 69 00:12:21,640 --> 00:12:26,589 while, at the same time, 72 billion left the country to pay off the debt. 70 00:12:26,840 --> 00:12:29,912 How do you feel about these figures 71 00:12:30,160 --> 00:12:33,789 that are particularly disastrous for African peoples? 72 00:12:40,760 --> 00:12:42,432 See that policeman there? 73 00:12:45,040 --> 00:12:46,189 He's not a good man. 74 00:12:48,360 --> 00:12:49,873 I'm a criminologist, see. 75 00:12:50,880 --> 00:12:52,472 You work for the police? 76 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:56,758 I just take photos for them. 77 00:12:57,480 --> 00:13:01,439 When there are crimes, murders or accidents, 78 00:13:01,640 --> 00:13:02,868 I take photos. 79 00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:07,752 Does this mean, in these Burkina Faso peasants' words, 80 00:13:08,160 --> 00:13:11,470 that Africa at last accepts globalization 81 00:13:11,680 --> 00:13:13,910 and simply asks that the rules 82 00:13:14,160 --> 00:13:16,469 be fair, transparent and valid for all? 83 00:13:20,720 --> 00:13:25,111 The relationship is governed by lies, hypocrisy and cynicism. 84 00:13:25,320 --> 00:13:27,709 Everything is done to make sure 85 00:13:27,960 --> 00:13:30,872 Africans are unaware of the system's rapacity. 86 00:13:31,120 --> 00:13:34,192 That is what I denounce when I say 87 00:13:34,400 --> 00:13:37,198 the impetus is northern but the theft is local, 88 00:13:37,400 --> 00:13:39,231 done with our complicity. 89 00:13:39,520 --> 00:13:41,670 I make a little money that way, 90 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:43,552 like with weddings. 91 00:13:43,840 --> 00:13:45,751 There's another market now. 92 00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:49,069 Funerals. 93 00:13:49,360 --> 00:13:50,679 There's money in that. 94 00:13:52,800 --> 00:13:55,519 The faces of people who talk don't interest me. 95 00:13:55,720 --> 00:13:57,039 There's no truth in them. 96 00:14:00,960 --> 00:14:02,712 I prefer the dead. 97 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:04,993 They're truer. 98 00:14:07,080 --> 00:14:10,709 Firstly, I strongly oppose the idea 99 00:14:11,200 --> 00:14:14,749 that Africa's key characteristic is her poverty. 100 00:14:15,720 --> 00:14:17,790 She is the victim of her riches. 101 00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:21,790 I would rather we talk about pauperization 102 00:14:22,160 --> 00:14:23,673 than poverty. 103 00:14:23,920 --> 00:14:27,629 In talking of pauperization, you pinpoint the mechanisms 104 00:14:27,880 --> 00:14:30,269 and Bush is at the heart of them. 105 00:14:30,760 --> 00:14:32,432 Bush is the conductor. 106 00:14:33,640 --> 00:14:35,949 Therefore, I don't see... 107 00:14:37,440 --> 00:14:38,793 why he is complaining. 108 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:43,710 I say that the West has created and imposed two fears on itself: 109 00:14:44,200 --> 00:14:46,350 Terrorism and immigration. 110 00:14:47,440 --> 00:14:49,112 Let's stay calm. 111 00:14:49,320 --> 00:14:52,392 We must stop presenting 112 00:14:53,120 --> 00:14:55,350 the problems' causes as the solution. 113 00:14:55,880 --> 00:14:57,871 Everything can be sold or bought. 114 00:14:58,120 --> 00:15:00,953 Today, a sick woman in a village risks dying 115 00:15:01,160 --> 00:15:04,630 because the nurse who has the medicine 116 00:15:04,840 --> 00:15:07,308 won't treat her because she can't pay. 117 00:15:07,520 --> 00:15:11,593 That is what it has come to, what we've learned from the system. 118 00:15:12,280 --> 00:15:16,592 In other words, pay or die. That's the West's lesson 119 00:15:16,800 --> 00:15:18,711 that we inflict on ourselves. 120 00:15:18,920 --> 00:15:20,911 And, personally, I think 121 00:15:21,520 --> 00:15:23,750 that what Africa needs to do now 122 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:27,231 is to make an effort to pull herself together. 123 00:15:30,280 --> 00:15:33,431 Along with the West, we are caught up 124 00:15:33,720 --> 00:15:36,712 in striving for a society that we can't attain. 125 00:15:36,920 --> 00:15:39,229 Our public services have been sold off. 126 00:15:39,440 --> 00:15:43,831 We could have developed a control system for the administrators, 127 00:15:44,560 --> 00:15:47,358 brought the necessary pressure to bear, 128 00:15:47,560 --> 00:15:49,391 and denounced the profiteers. 129 00:15:49,600 --> 00:15:53,832 We have accepted it at times. If you had a well-placed relative, 130 00:15:54,120 --> 00:15:57,351 you were happy to profit from the system with him. 131 00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:02,790 How can we take back our assets? That's a major political issue. 132 00:16:06,800 --> 00:16:08,199 Death is good. 133 00:16:09,840 --> 00:16:11,353 Nothing's better than death. 134 00:16:19,680 --> 00:16:23,992 Your suggestion is that you pull yourself together. 135 00:16:24,200 --> 00:16:28,034 That's a fine idea, a wide-ranging and abstract idea, 136 00:16:28,240 --> 00:16:29,832 but it isn't a programme. 137 00:16:30,080 --> 00:16:32,913 After this first remark, I would like 138 00:16:33,160 --> 00:16:37,631 to take two examples that will provide striking proof 139 00:16:37,880 --> 00:16:39,313 that your ideas... 140 00:16:39,520 --> 00:16:41,750 - Can you get to the point? - Right away. 141 00:16:42,120 --> 00:16:46,352 For instance, I have heard Maitre Tall provide figures 142 00:16:46,720 --> 00:16:49,439 and you have approved them. What figures? 143 00:16:49,640 --> 00:16:52,473 My esteemed colleague, you said earlier, 144 00:16:52,680 --> 00:16:55,478 "We are given 54 billion 145 00:16:55,680 --> 00:16:59,912 "and, in actual fact, we have to pay back 436 billion." 146 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:01,752 Do you know, madame, 147 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:04,912 that, for Mali, we plan to give up 148 00:17:05,120 --> 00:17:09,113 the sum of 1.42 billion CFA francs 149 00:17:09,320 --> 00:17:12,153 that represents 60% of the debt? 150 00:17:12,960 --> 00:17:15,269 Are you aware of that fact? 151 00:17:15,640 --> 00:17:18,791 I'm aware of that act of deception and... 152 00:17:21,320 --> 00:17:23,914 Madame Traore, please address the court. 153 00:17:24,160 --> 00:17:27,550 It was decided at Gleneagles, during the G8 summit, 154 00:17:27,800 --> 00:17:30,792 as part of a so-called cancellation of the debt. 155 00:17:31,000 --> 00:17:33,798 Firstly, we consider, 156 00:17:34,120 --> 00:17:37,430 given the interest rates applied, 157 00:17:37,760 --> 00:17:39,910 that Africa has paid off this debt 158 00:17:40,120 --> 00:17:42,873 and owes nothing more to these institutions. 159 00:17:43,240 --> 00:17:45,800 Secondly, we say 160 00:17:46,080 --> 00:17:49,072 that the disastrous nature of economic policies 161 00:17:49,280 --> 00:17:52,352 in which only borrowed money was invested 162 00:17:52,560 --> 00:17:56,269 without any benefit to the people of Mali and Africa, 163 00:17:56,520 --> 00:17:59,353 is a moral wrong that didn't even require 164 00:17:59,600 --> 00:18:01,431 this "good deed" by the G8. 165 00:18:01,640 --> 00:18:06,873 But, above all, I wish to say that this 1.42 billion 166 00:18:07,560 --> 00:18:10,552 is not fresh money injected into Mali's economy. 167 00:18:10,800 --> 00:18:12,392 What we need today 168 00:18:12,600 --> 00:18:17,913 is fresh money in order to create jobs and to invest. 169 00:18:18,120 --> 00:18:20,873 We haven't even mentioned corruption yet. 170 00:18:21,160 --> 00:18:26,188 I feel that the correct use of our own resources 171 00:18:27,120 --> 00:18:28,951 could safeguard us today 172 00:18:29,160 --> 00:18:31,310 from this manipulation of opinion 173 00:18:32,120 --> 00:18:35,510 that presents a false cancellation as a true one. 174 00:18:35,840 --> 00:18:41,198 We shall perhaps be able to save a few billion each year 175 00:18:41,400 --> 00:18:44,312 as part of the debt we're paying off. 176 00:18:44,520 --> 00:18:47,193 But this decision has done more 177 00:18:47,400 --> 00:18:51,109 to improve the G8's image than to actually help Africa. 178 00:18:51,360 --> 00:18:53,920 True, I haven't put forward a programme 179 00:18:54,120 --> 00:18:56,031 but that isn't my intention. 180 00:18:56,280 --> 00:18:59,431 I would simply like a critical mass of Africans 181 00:18:59,680 --> 00:19:03,559 to know more about the reasons why we are in this position. 182 00:19:03,760 --> 00:19:07,594 Your Honour, I agree with the witness. 183 00:19:07,800 --> 00:19:10,189 Writers don't put forward programmes. 184 00:19:10,400 --> 00:19:13,631 And I also agree that writers 185 00:19:13,840 --> 00:19:17,549 should denounce what they are able to observe. 186 00:19:17,800 --> 00:19:21,952 They can express their personal feelings and thoughts. 187 00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:25,630 But you abandoned that role just now, madame. 188 00:19:25,840 --> 00:19:29,549 You presented yourself, on this stand, as an expert. 189 00:19:29,760 --> 00:19:31,591 You tackled specific issues, 190 00:19:31,800 --> 00:19:33,711 you spoke about the debt, 191 00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:38,152 you said the debt impoverishes Africa, a moot point, 192 00:19:38,360 --> 00:19:41,830 and that its cancellation, as you just said, 193 00:19:42,080 --> 00:19:44,389 is of no consequence. 194 00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:47,108 I am a citizen of this country, 195 00:19:47,600 --> 00:19:51,991 with my feet firmly grounded in the realities of this country. 196 00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:55,909 Being a writer doesn't mean I don't have a certain expertise 197 00:19:56,160 --> 00:19:58,913 at dealing with aggressive stances 198 00:19:59,120 --> 00:20:00,792 in an open debate 199 00:20:01,040 --> 00:20:04,510 on issues that I experience from the inside. 200 00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:07,360 But this money comes with a proviso. 201 00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:10,199 It forces the hand of 18 countries 202 00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:13,551 to make them speed up the structural reforms 203 00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:15,279 that benefit the North. 204 00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:18,160 But I'm not only fighting for subsidies. 205 00:20:18,360 --> 00:20:22,751 I'm fighting for the possibility for a country like Mali 206 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:28,074 to produce cotton if it wishes or not, but to earn its living. 207 00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:30,232 A living to sell what? 208 00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:33,512 That's why this issue goes way beyond Africa. 209 00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:37,032 Why should the fate of people depend 210 00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:40,672 on their ability to produce and sell abroad? 211 00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:44,312 China's expansion must be integrated into the debate. 212 00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:48,030 Your own countries tremble before China. What will Mali do? 213 00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:54,552 I believe that cotton production has had its day. 214 00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:57,474 Besides, with the prices of products 215 00:20:57,680 --> 00:21:00,592 that come from China and copy our textiles, 216 00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:03,872 there is no major stake for us in the cotton debate. 217 00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:19,518 "In an inevitably open world, 218 00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:23,030 "we must civilize globalization 219 00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:24,832 "and give it a meaning." 220 00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:27,310 What do you think of those words? 221 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:31,952 Can progress be made or not during the globalization process? 222 00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:35,709 For example, if the standards enforced 223 00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:41,159 by the ILO were made general, would that be good or bad? 224 00:21:41,360 --> 00:21:45,433 Or would that merely oppress the Africans even more? 225 00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:50,913 I strongly oppose your starting point: "the open world". 226 00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:54,233 We don't live in an open world, Mr Rappaport. 227 00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:56,112 The words you just read 228 00:21:56,320 --> 00:22:01,030 provide an eloquent answer to the questions that you ask. 229 00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:05,672 If globalization needs to be improved and civilized, 230 00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:08,440 that means it "decivilizes" and dehumanizes. 231 00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:12,508 Today, we see Africans who opt for emigration, 232 00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:14,233 who are economic refugees, 233 00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:19,151 arrested, handcuffed, deported, humiliated and sent back home. 234 00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:22,790 How can you claim, given that terrible situation 235 00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:27,113 that shocks the whole world, that we live in an open world? 236 00:22:27,360 --> 00:22:30,113 It's clearly open for whites but not for blacks. 237 00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:38,239 I'm a witness. 238 00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:45,791 Madou Keita isn't on the list. 239 00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:48,229 Step back. 240 00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:54,153 Our countries are not imploding today 241 00:22:54,360 --> 00:22:56,351 because, on a domestic level, 242 00:22:57,000 --> 00:22:59,560 the women play an important role. 243 00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:02,911 That is why they must refuse to be imprisoned 244 00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:07,472 within the conventional interpretation of the situation 245 00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:12,834 that says they are victims of their culture, society and men. 246 00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:15,270 The men are in trouble, the women too. 247 00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:17,311 We have to work together. 248 00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:33,954 - Where's the mirror? - Here it is. 249 00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:38,669 Very pretty. 250 00:23:40,120 --> 00:23:41,553 I'll do you a good price. 251 00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:44,632 You all say that. 252 00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:47,279 Some darker ones. 253 00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:55,232 They're by Gucci, an Italian designer. 254 00:23:57,480 --> 00:23:58,799 Where's the Gucci logo? 255 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:00,069 It's top quality. 256 00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:01,429 Where's the logo? 257 00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:02,959 They're by Gucci. 258 00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:04,752 So where's the logo? 259 00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:35,154 Falai... 260 00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:38,511 That's not the same policeman. 261 00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:42,072 The one there before 262 00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:44,672 fell asleep during the break. 263 00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:47,991 He said his gun has vanished. 264 00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:51,759 An officer's investigating. 265 00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:56,553 He suspects me. 266 00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:53,280 Raise your right hand and swear to tell nothing but the truth. 267 00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:31,993 What does he want? 268 00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:34,431 We were in Morocco together. 269 00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:38,070 He's the one we need for now. 270 00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:40,511 You can sit down. 271 00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:45,632 He says that he left Mali 272 00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:48,239 to go to Spain. 273 00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:52,389 He crossed Niger. 274 00:26:55,360 --> 00:26:58,193 He left Niger and went to Algeria. 275 00:27:00,120 --> 00:27:02,031 From there, he went to Morocco. 276 00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:06,630 The Moroccans brought us back to Oujda. 277 00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:10,591 They made us all board a truck 278 00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:14,111 to take us into the Sahara. 279 00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:17,872 From there, we walked to Algeria. 280 00:27:18,120 --> 00:27:20,270 The Algerians refused to let us in. 281 00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:22,789 They helped us the first time, 282 00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:24,319 but this time they didn't. 283 00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:29,389 They opened fire on us but the bullets didn't hit anyone 284 00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:31,073 and we set off again. 285 00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:35,473 There were around 30 of us. 286 00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:38,311 We walked for seven nights. 287 00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:40,351 We walked for a week. 288 00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:42,432 Without water or food. 289 00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:47,430 Those who were sick were soon exhausted. 290 00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:50,269 One man couldn't go any further. 291 00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:54,429 His young brother sat down next to him 292 00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:55,908 to wait for him. 293 00:27:56,120 --> 00:27:57,599 He said, "Don't wait. 294 00:27:57,880 --> 00:27:58,869 "Go. 295 00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:01,549 "I can't go on, 296 00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:03,512 "I accept death. 297 00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:07,270 "There's no sense in you waiting with me. 298 00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:08,390 "Go..." 299 00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:11,679 There was a woman with us. 300 00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:13,433 She was from Ghana. 301 00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:17,389 We didn't know she was a woman. 302 00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:19,352 She was disguised as a boy. 303 00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:20,749 She was exhausted. 304 00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:25,234 We went over to her to help her. 305 00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:26,839 We couldn't do anything. 306 00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:32,990 There were 30 of us at first 307 00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:39,110 but only ten or so survived without much trouble. 308 00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:42,079 We don't know where the others are. Are they dead? 309 00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:45,670 Are they wandering in the Sahara? I don't know. 310 00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:01,708 Madou Keita... 311 00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:07,072 The reason why you left your country, 312 00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:10,071 was the suffering you felt. 313 00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:13,353 Since your birth, Madou, 314 00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:16,191 have you been to school to learn? 315 00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:18,513 Since your birth, Madou, 316 00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:21,549 has the state given you the health care you need? 317 00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:24,353 Since your birth, Madou, 318 00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:27,990 has the state taught you a trade? Has it found you work? 319 00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:29,793 Has it given you money? 320 00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:33,034 It has given me nothing. 321 00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:37,351 Nothing. The state has given me nothing. 322 00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:43,350 What do you mean? 323 00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:46,113 You're not thinking. 324 00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:47,949 You're being unreasonable. 325 00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:52,113 We can understand him. Look at yourself and look at him! 326 00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:53,912 You'll never be like them! 327 00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:55,479 How can you defend them? 328 00:31:57,360 --> 00:31:58,952 Look at yourself and look at him! 329 00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:00,553 Until your dying day, 330 00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:03,149 you'll never be like them! 331 00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:04,429 Never like them. 332 00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:05,949 You're lost for us! 333 00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:07,229 Madame, please... 334 00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:10,591 Let me speak. Let me speak to this fool! 335 00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:12,791 Look what he's doing! 336 00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:15,119 Please, madame. 337 00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:18,353 - He's just doing his duty. - Let's get serious here! 338 00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:19,790 Honestly! 339 00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:22,831 What is this? You're wearing us out. 340 00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:31,640 If we were alone, you wouldn't leave unharmed. 341 00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:35,510 I'd accept the consequences. Enough suffering! 342 00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:38,431 Enough suffering! 343 00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:40,432 Enough manipulation... 344 00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:45,472 The hearing is adjourned. 345 00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:29,313 Saramba, will this do? 346 00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:31,399 Hold it up to see. 347 00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:38,359 That's good. Rinse it and hang it out to dry. 348 00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:43,672 You know Raymond is dead? 349 00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:48,029 Which Raymond? 350 00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:50,549 The same one. 351 00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:56,074 What was wrong with him? 352 00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:01,269 Nothing. 353 00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:08,753 - 140/120... That's good. - It's good? 354 00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:11,510 Thank you. 355 00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:46,872 What are you looking for here, by this streetlight's glow? 356 00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:52,872 Have you lost something? 357 00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:55,879 Yes, I've lost my wallet. 358 00:35:04,240 --> 00:35:08,028 Are you sure you lost it here? 359 00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:10,990 And now, tonight's film. 360 00:35:11,240 --> 00:35:13,993 I'll be here tomorrow for our news bulletin. 361 00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:15,633 Good night. 362 00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:21,431 Some technical problems 363 00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:24,592 but everything will be settled shortly. 364 00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:34,873 I'm lost here. 365 00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:37,672 Know where the square is? 366 00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:23,593 They don't need two teachers. 367 00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:29,799 Spare the kids. 368 00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:28,433 Guys... 369 00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:36,719 l fired at one 370 00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:39,072 and I got two! 371 00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:00,234 What's up, guys? 372 00:41:33,720 --> 00:41:35,233 Have you seen my soap-dish? 373 00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:36,668 No, I haven't. 374 00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:12,350 Mamou! 375 00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:13,589 Take this. 376 00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:15,833 Let's do the blue ones. 377 00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:24,272 Do a sky blue one like this. 378 00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:54,592 I'm off to Dakar on Sunday. 379 00:42:56,280 --> 00:42:57,508 But without Ina. 380 00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:20,391 Tell me, what's going on between Mele and you? 381 00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:21,989 Nothing. 382 00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:24,592 What do you mean, nothing? 383 00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:26,714 You don't talk to her anymore. 384 00:43:27,240 --> 00:43:28,912 She's the one not talking to me. 385 00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:32,511 Nor to Mariam, either. 386 00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:35,594 If you want to sort it all out, talk to your wife, 387 00:43:36,720 --> 00:43:38,233 not to me. 388 00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:48,909 All rise. 389 00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:47,309 As social realities demand, 390 00:44:47,520 --> 00:44:49,511 we shall take a short break. 391 00:46:04,240 --> 00:46:06,629 Aren't there people with money in Mali? 392 00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:11,111 People who've enriched themselves? 393 00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:13,669 People who are rich enough 394 00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:16,670 and who can now create jobs 395 00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:20,031 by founding a company and keeping it in Mali 396 00:46:20,280 --> 00:46:21,759 simply don't exist. 397 00:46:22,240 --> 00:46:27,109 We have heard a witness, a mutual insurance manager, Mr Aouitara. 398 00:46:27,520 --> 00:46:29,431 Is that his name? Ouatara. 399 00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:31,830 Mr Ouatara told us 400 00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:37,594 that part of the money provided by international aid 401 00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:41,111 wasn't spent. He didn't say it was embezzled. 402 00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:44,790 He said it was there and that it wasn't being used. 403 00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:47,389 Money is provided but not used 404 00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:50,878 even though it is vital. Why is that? 405 00:46:51,200 --> 00:46:54,829 I can't say anything about Mr Ouatara's statement. 406 00:46:55,560 --> 00:46:58,199 It's his opinion. My view is different. 407 00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:01,472 It's not a matter of opinion... 408 00:47:01,720 --> 00:47:04,280 Maitre Rappaport, let the witness answer. 409 00:47:04,480 --> 00:47:05,629 Yes, Your Honour. 410 00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:10,713 Mr Keita, actually, Maitre Rappapov... 411 00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:11,830 Ra-ppa-port. 412 00:47:12,080 --> 00:47:16,392 ...is saying our disbursement capacities are poor. 413 00:47:16,600 --> 00:47:17,828 Very poor! 414 00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:19,951 Maitre Rappaport, 415 00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:23,510 let's consider the most social fields today 416 00:47:24,360 --> 00:47:29,673 and that are also considered fundamental for us. 417 00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:31,868 Education. 418 00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:35,840 Has anyone ever seen a school built 419 00:47:36,040 --> 00:47:40,431 using what you refer to as financial means? No. 420 00:47:40,680 --> 00:47:42,272 We can provide figures. 421 00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:47,031 Let's not clutter up this debate. 422 00:47:47,600 --> 00:47:51,752 Maitre Rappaport, he's a witness, not the opposing party. 423 00:47:52,040 --> 00:47:56,352 Occasionally, through twinning or another form of cooperation, 424 00:47:56,560 --> 00:47:58,073 it can come about. 425 00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:02,031 As part of the process of decentralization, 426 00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:05,238 we have made a superhuman effort 427 00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:08,349 to ease our suffering. 428 00:48:10,520 --> 00:48:12,511 And, in these conditions, 429 00:48:12,760 --> 00:48:16,389 all we can do is come to terms with ourselves. 430 00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:20,271 And break away from this system. 431 00:48:24,520 --> 00:48:26,829 Have you read Lao-Tse? 432 00:48:27,240 --> 00:48:28,468 Confucius. 433 00:48:29,840 --> 00:48:31,990 I haven't read all of it. 434 00:48:32,240 --> 00:48:34,231 I win a point. He says, 435 00:48:35,720 --> 00:48:38,632 "He who is excessive is insignificant." 436 00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:44,830 We would gain in all matters if we avoid being excessive. 437 00:48:46,080 --> 00:48:47,513 Listening to you, 438 00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:50,151 our African nations 439 00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:56,354 were calm states or countries, 440 00:48:58,360 --> 00:49:00,351 without problems, prosperous... 441 00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:03,030 Then came the World Bank and the IMF, 442 00:49:03,240 --> 00:49:05,151 and we became poor 443 00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:09,109 and we have become poorer and poorer. Is that right? 444 00:49:10,320 --> 00:49:15,110 These countries have known 100 years or more of colonization 445 00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:17,590 and, with colonization over, 446 00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:21,713 are struggling to ensure the conditions for their development. 447 00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:25,230 And what do they find themselves facing? 448 00:49:25,440 --> 00:49:27,670 An international diktat, institutions 449 00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:31,071 that more or less regulate world relations. 450 00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:36,308 I don't see how you can describe those countries as you just did. 451 00:49:36,520 --> 00:49:41,878 I did inform you, professor, that I'm no expert in this field. 452 00:49:42,080 --> 00:49:44,230 But you've just said... 453 00:49:44,440 --> 00:49:46,829 Our countries were characterized 454 00:49:47,080 --> 00:49:50,550 more or less like in Aime Cesaire's poem, 455 00:49:50,760 --> 00:49:53,513 "The Prayer of a Negro Child". 456 00:49:53,720 --> 00:49:57,349 The very same thing. We've known nothing but misfortune. 457 00:49:57,560 --> 00:49:59,551 And it's getting worse. 458 00:49:59,760 --> 00:50:02,399 Is it absurd to imagine... 459 00:50:09,480 --> 00:50:12,870 that this increased poverty 460 00:50:13,080 --> 00:50:17,119 could have a cause other than the World Bank and the IMF? 461 00:50:19,680 --> 00:50:21,750 Well before colonization, 462 00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:24,070 there was a country, 463 00:50:24,880 --> 00:50:29,032 a wealthy and stable country where life was good. 464 00:50:29,680 --> 00:50:32,990 But colonization came along and set up what? 465 00:50:33,680 --> 00:50:35,079 It took everything: 466 00:50:35,600 --> 00:50:38,273 Men, riches, everything. 467 00:50:45,480 --> 00:50:49,109 A leading gold-producing country where the people are poor. 468 00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:52,711 As you can see, our women 469 00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:55,229 don't even wear gold jewelry. 470 00:50:56,440 --> 00:51:01,309 Can we imagine a world without the IMF or the World Bank? 471 00:51:02,400 --> 00:51:03,389 Absolutely. 472 00:51:04,080 --> 00:51:04,990 Thank you. 473 00:51:07,480 --> 00:51:10,392 When someone dies in Africa, 474 00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:13,789 at that person's funeral, 475 00:51:14,720 --> 00:51:17,518 one of the questions asked 476 00:51:18,200 --> 00:51:21,351 is whether he owes money 477 00:51:21,840 --> 00:51:25,913 or if there is anyone in his local community 478 00:51:26,160 --> 00:51:27,559 who owes him money. 479 00:51:28,200 --> 00:51:30,270 In Africa, we remind people 480 00:51:31,880 --> 00:51:34,713 that death is better than shame. 481 00:51:35,360 --> 00:51:37,510 The African states owe money. 482 00:51:38,960 --> 00:51:40,393 Is it normal 483 00:51:40,600 --> 00:51:43,353 that these people should claim their due 484 00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:45,991 and that you, as an expert, 485 00:51:46,240 --> 00:51:50,791 should advise these Africans not to pay off their debt? 486 00:51:53,960 --> 00:51:54,870 Chaka... 487 00:51:55,760 --> 00:51:57,273 What are you reading? 488 00:52:03,920 --> 00:52:04,909 Falai... 489 00:52:06,840 --> 00:52:09,354 Is there an Israeli embassy here? 490 00:52:09,600 --> 00:52:10,430 No. 491 00:52:11,040 --> 00:52:12,632 One day there will be. 492 00:52:13,400 --> 00:52:15,550 Yes, that's possible. 493 00:52:16,840 --> 00:52:18,910 The guard will be me. 494 00:52:40,040 --> 00:52:41,029 You're going to choke. 495 00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:48,714 I'm sorry. 496 00:52:55,440 --> 00:52:57,510 The question we are asking now 497 00:52:57,720 --> 00:53:00,314 after around 45 years of cooperation, 498 00:53:00,520 --> 00:53:03,671 with these states and institutions, 499 00:53:03,880 --> 00:53:05,711 is where are we exactly? 500 00:53:07,960 --> 00:53:10,713 And we've had to wait 45 years to realize 501 00:53:10,920 --> 00:53:15,471 that, despite having everything needed to achieve it, 502 00:53:15,720 --> 00:53:19,679 the economy has never taken off or developed over time 503 00:53:19,880 --> 00:53:22,792 but that we're bogged down in anti-development. 504 00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:27,713 Malnutrition, undernourishment, 505 00:53:29,080 --> 00:53:32,311 chronic illiteracy, chronic unemployment 506 00:53:32,560 --> 00:53:36,394 and even the total lack of decent living conditions. 507 00:53:36,600 --> 00:53:39,512 As we can see, promiscuity reigns. 508 00:53:40,800 --> 00:53:42,870 It's impossible to describe. 509 00:53:47,240 --> 00:53:48,639 What does this lead to? 510 00:53:49,360 --> 00:53:52,272 The total degeneration of the foundations 511 00:53:54,120 --> 00:53:56,793 that represented our society's key values. 512 00:53:57,000 --> 00:53:59,309 To that, we need to add 513 00:53:59,520 --> 00:54:04,071 this flood of information we receive that only flows one way. 514 00:54:04,840 --> 00:54:07,673 At times, it cancels out all our efforts 515 00:54:07,880 --> 00:54:09,950 to try to live as we really are. 516 00:54:10,880 --> 00:54:14,509 Because even within our imaginations, we are raped. 517 00:54:15,320 --> 00:54:19,154 They don't just take our resources, our work, 518 00:54:19,360 --> 00:54:23,592 and our money, they take our minds too. 519 00:54:25,680 --> 00:54:29,673 We have reached the last threshold of the human heartbeat. 520 00:54:35,680 --> 00:54:38,911 And now, in a totally biased manner, 521 00:54:39,720 --> 00:54:42,029 they come to observe this failure. 522 00:54:42,280 --> 00:54:44,748 And, on observing it, they say, "No. 523 00:54:45,000 --> 00:54:48,470 "You must maintain libertarianism 524 00:54:48,720 --> 00:54:51,553 "as the development mode for your countries." 525 00:54:51,800 --> 00:54:55,588 In other words, prevent us from creating a payments deficit. 526 00:54:55,800 --> 00:55:00,430 That presupposes that all the money we receive must be used 527 00:55:00,680 --> 00:55:04,309 to restore and maintain our solvency in relation 528 00:55:04,520 --> 00:55:05,589 to our creditors 529 00:55:05,840 --> 00:55:08,673 and cannot be used within the national economy. 530 00:55:09,120 --> 00:55:14,194 Today, we pay out much more than the true total of our budgets. 531 00:55:18,240 --> 00:55:22,552 This framework of action set up by the World Bank, 532 00:55:22,760 --> 00:55:24,751 what effect will it have? 533 00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:26,752 It will smother a fire 534 00:55:27,000 --> 00:55:28,991 that will continue to smoulder. 535 00:55:29,880 --> 00:55:33,429 It's simply the fire of imposed destitution. 536 00:55:33,640 --> 00:55:38,350 It's the fire of a terrible form of colonialism. 537 00:55:38,640 --> 00:55:43,191 It's the fire of an unspeakable form of exploitation. 538 00:55:44,200 --> 00:55:46,714 It means some countries will disappear. 539 00:55:46,920 --> 00:55:50,993 We are barely kept in this international system 540 00:55:51,200 --> 00:55:54,670 and take part in it just because we are 541 00:55:54,880 --> 00:55:57,952 good little markets and a source of money. 542 00:56:00,000 --> 00:56:02,673 Today, we give everything to North America 543 00:56:02,880 --> 00:56:05,110 and we give everything to Europe! 40077

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