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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,199 hi everyone it's megan townsend from 2 00:00:02,159 --> 00:00:05,439 glad here and i am 3 00:00:03,199 --> 00:00:06,560 super excited today because we are 4 00:00:05,440 --> 00:00:08,960 talking to 5 00:00:06,560 --> 00:00:11,120 cat burrell and dominique pro shockley 6 00:00:08,960 --> 00:00:12,880 from sci-fi's winona erp 7 00:00:11,120 --> 00:00:14,160 first part of season four has just 8 00:00:12,880 --> 00:00:16,960 finished airing and we are 9 00:00:14,160 --> 00:00:17,680 so looking forward to the rest coming up 10 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:19,520 thank you 11 00:00:17,680 --> 00:00:21,439 for joining us today and congrats on the 12 00:00:19,520 --> 00:00:24,800 new season 13 00:00:21,439 --> 00:00:26,080 thank you thanks for having us yeah this 14 00:00:24,800 --> 00:00:28,160 is super fun 15 00:00:26,080 --> 00:00:29,439 so we can't start anywhere else here but 16 00:00:28,160 --> 00:00:31,599 with the amazing 17 00:00:29,439 --> 00:00:33,120 fans the erpers they've always been one 18 00:00:31,599 --> 00:00:35,600 of the most passionate 19 00:00:33,120 --> 00:00:37,120 fan bases and they have proven 20 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:37,760 themselves to be a force when they 21 00:00:37,120 --> 00:00:39,519 organized 22 00:00:37,760 --> 00:00:40,960 last year with the hashtag fight for 23 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:42,960 wynonna campaign 24 00:00:40,960 --> 00:00:44,320 can you talk a little bit about that 25 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:46,399 experience and the 26 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:50,079 just the reaction from the fans and what 27 00:00:46,399 --> 00:00:50,079 that kind of year was like 28 00:00:50,879 --> 00:00:55,280 yeah i mean of course it feels like an 29 00:00:54,559 --> 00:00:58,640 attention 30 00:00:55,280 --> 00:01:02,960 go now doesn't it yeah really done 31 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:02,960 it's been a real roller coaster i think 32 00:01:03,039 --> 00:01:07,760 i mean please do go first cat if you if 33 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:08,720 you want to kick us off i was just about 34 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:11,520 to say though 35 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:13,360 not only is there a fight for season 36 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:14,960 four there's actually a fight for five 37 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:18,960 now apparently that's alright have you 38 00:01:14,960 --> 00:01:22,479 seen that cat no i haven't seen it 39 00:01:18,960 --> 00:01:24,559 wow i'm not surprised i mean it just 40 00:01:22,479 --> 00:01:26,479 shows you the dedication of their first 41 00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:29,759 they're amazing 42 00:01:26,479 --> 00:01:33,119 exactly it's quite remarkable 43 00:01:29,759 --> 00:01:34,560 um but yeah i it was for me it was a 44 00:01:33,119 --> 00:01:38,240 crazy experience i was 45 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:41,040 in brazil at the time um when 46 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:41,839 we we just didn't get any news about 47 00:01:41,040 --> 00:01:44,000 going back 48 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:45,520 and there was this sort of prolonged 49 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:48,320 break that um 50 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:49,360 we didn't really understand uh and i 51 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:52,479 just 52 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:54,720 kept extending my trip and thinking 53 00:01:52,479 --> 00:01:55,759 okay well i'll i'll book a ticket back 54 00:01:54,720 --> 00:01:57,920 whenever we find 55 00:01:55,759 --> 00:01:59,759 out about you know season four about 56 00:01:57,920 --> 00:02:01,600 when we're going back and it just 57 00:01:59,759 --> 00:02:04,000 kept on going and then we were having 58 00:02:01,600 --> 00:02:07,439 some correspondence like 59 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:09,199 you know us cast and just trying to 60 00:02:07,439 --> 00:02:10,720 speculate about what was going on and 61 00:02:09,199 --> 00:02:13,040 then um 62 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:14,480 and then of course the movement uh 63 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:18,239 started 64 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:20,560 which was the most magical thing to see 65 00:02:18,239 --> 00:02:22,160 i felt so far removed just because i was 66 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:24,720 the nature of where i was 67 00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:26,640 and when i came back and people were 68 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:28,480 updating me on all of the 69 00:02:26,640 --> 00:02:29,679 all of the incredible efforts that the 70 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:32,720 earth went to 71 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:33,760 um it just felt so surreal it just felt 72 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:37,280 like 73 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:40,000 the most um amazing 74 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:41,120 representation of fighting for something 75 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:44,480 you love 76 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:47,200 and was incredibly inspiring and 77 00:02:44,480 --> 00:02:48,160 yeah it's been a marker for me in many 78 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:49,920 ways of 79 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:51,440 how to fight for something that you love 80 00:02:49,920 --> 00:02:55,040 and you know passion 81 00:02:51,440 --> 00:03:00,159 at in its like most authentic form 82 00:02:55,040 --> 00:03:03,440 um yeah absolutely amazing well 83 00:03:00,159 --> 00:03:05,120 that's awesome um so being you know 84 00:03:03,440 --> 00:03:05,440 queer actors and being out and you're 85 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:08,480 both 86 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:10,560 playing queer characters what has that 87 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:11,920 journey kind of been like for you and 88 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:15,200 what has been the impact 89 00:03:11,920 --> 00:03:17,359 of nicole and waverly um for 90 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:20,640 yourselves outside of you know how much 91 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:20,640 they mean to all of the fans 92 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:24,879 wow i think it's really nice to have 93 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:26,879 been 94 00:03:24,879 --> 00:03:28,879 part much more part of the queer 95 00:03:26,879 --> 00:03:31,040 community than i ever had been before 96 00:03:28,879 --> 00:03:35,599 working on winona earp 97 00:03:31,040 --> 00:03:35,599 um i think it's definitely 98 00:03:36,159 --> 00:03:40,480 helped me solidify some things about my 99 00:03:38,159 --> 00:03:42,399 own identity for myself but i don't know 100 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:45,679 if i ever 101 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:48,159 would have asked fully understand it 102 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:50,640 about myself if i hadn't had 103 00:03:48,159 --> 00:03:51,760 this experience i guess but i don't know 104 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:52,879 it's hard to say 105 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:54,239 what would i be like without this 106 00:03:52,879 --> 00:03:55,679 experience versus with because who knows 107 00:03:54,239 --> 00:03:56,000 what else would have come into my life 108 00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:59,519 but 109 00:03:56,000 --> 00:04:01,760 um i feel like just being so 110 00:03:59,519 --> 00:04:03,760 a part of the community and being at 111 00:04:01,760 --> 00:04:07,120 these amazing conventions with people 112 00:04:03,760 --> 00:04:10,959 and celebrating with people and um 113 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:14,239 i think i i was given the privilege of 114 00:04:10,959 --> 00:04:16,238 growing up in a very um accepting 115 00:04:14,239 --> 00:04:18,000 environment i grew up in a big theater 116 00:04:16,238 --> 00:04:21,279 community and i was 117 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:21,839 surrounded by amazing queer people and 118 00:04:21,279 --> 00:04:25,280 just 119 00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:28,479 supportive people and i always 120 00:04:25,280 --> 00:04:29,039 felt really um like i didn't have any 121 00:04:28,479 --> 00:04:32,320 sort of 122 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:35,360 i guess shame around my sexuality 123 00:04:32,320 --> 00:04:35,919 um which unfortunately is i know the 124 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:37,919 case 125 00:04:35,919 --> 00:04:40,240 for so many people that i've met and 126 00:04:37,919 --> 00:04:43,039 spoke to and it's a big part of their 127 00:04:40,240 --> 00:04:44,800 their coming out journey so i think for 128 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:48,160 me that was a really 129 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:49,440 um really important to see and just be 130 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:53,520 reminded of how 131 00:04:49,440 --> 00:04:56,000 much fight we still have and how much 132 00:04:53,520 --> 00:04:56,880 there's still so much further we have to 133 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:58,639 go towards 134 00:04:56,880 --> 00:05:00,159 better understanding and acceptance of 135 00:04:58,639 --> 00:05:03,840 each other um 136 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:07,280 but i'm just you know being being 137 00:05:03,840 --> 00:05:09,280 with the weiner community especially 138 00:05:07,280 --> 00:05:11,198 within the queer community has just 139 00:05:09,280 --> 00:05:12,880 reinvigorated for me 140 00:05:11,199 --> 00:05:14,240 the importance that we keep moving 141 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:16,560 forward 142 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:17,840 i think representation in our media is 143 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:20,800 so important 144 00:05:17,840 --> 00:05:22,400 we need to see all different types of 145 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:24,080 relationships represented and all 146 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:25,919 different types of people 147 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:28,240 and i think when you're from somewhere 148 00:05:25,919 --> 00:05:30,240 where you don't have that like i was so 149 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:31,759 lucky to have those beautiful examples 150 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:34,800 growing up but when you 151 00:05:31,759 --> 00:05:36,720 when you don't have that um media just 152 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:37,039 becomes your outlet and i'm reminded of 153 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:40,479 that 154 00:05:37,039 --> 00:05:44,080 again and again and i 155 00:05:40,479 --> 00:05:45,520 have been really grateful for that um 156 00:05:44,080 --> 00:05:47,199 especially the experience with the 157 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:48,799 community of just being able to 158 00:05:47,199 --> 00:05:50,800 constantly be reminded that we still 159 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:53,759 have places to go 160 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:56,639 and barriers to break down and just how 161 00:05:53,759 --> 00:05:56,639 important that is 162 00:05:57,199 --> 00:06:00,960 oh cat so beautiful 163 00:06:01,199 --> 00:06:07,919 oh so so beautiful so true 164 00:06:04,880 --> 00:06:09,199 so so true and you know you talk about 165 00:06:07,919 --> 00:06:11,520 everybody having such a different 166 00:06:09,199 --> 00:06:14,800 experience and i think you know 167 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:16,880 i am one of those people um i've 168 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:18,319 carried with me a huge amount of shame 169 00:06:16,880 --> 00:06:20,719 and fear 170 00:06:18,319 --> 00:06:21,440 around my sexuality uh since i was a 171 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:24,560 little girl 172 00:06:21,440 --> 00:06:27,759 so two have been 173 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:29,039 handed this character this beautiful 174 00:06:27,759 --> 00:06:33,199 gift of a character 175 00:06:29,039 --> 00:06:36,639 that um that 176 00:06:33,199 --> 00:06:39,680 has ultimately you know taught me 177 00:06:36,639 --> 00:06:42,720 to be proud of my own sexuality is 178 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:43,919 just amazing um and the journey that of 179 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:46,720 course i've been on 180 00:06:43,919 --> 00:06:47,680 since the beginning since i opened that 181 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:52,240 page 182 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:54,240 in the script and was like oh my god 183 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:56,319 and you know i remember it like it was 184 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:59,360 yesterday cup of coffee on the side 185 00:06:56,319 --> 00:07:04,000 over in kensington and just like 186 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:07,120 the uh rush the the rush of my heart 187 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:08,639 you know just being so fast in my chest 188 00:07:07,120 --> 00:07:10,479 and realizing that this was maybe where 189 00:07:08,639 --> 00:07:13,680 i was gonna have to finally 190 00:07:10,479 --> 00:07:15,599 um address this part of myself and and 191 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:18,000 go on this journey 192 00:07:15,599 --> 00:07:18,639 but yeah what a gift that the universe 193 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:21,919 gave me 194 00:07:18,639 --> 00:07:23,520 because um now i am in a very very 195 00:07:21,919 --> 00:07:26,880 different position to 196 00:07:23,520 --> 00:07:30,159 where i was then and like you say it's 197 00:07:26,880 --> 00:07:31,520 largely down to being around the urpa 198 00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:34,080 community 199 00:07:31,520 --> 00:07:35,198 and seeing so many beautiful 200 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:39,359 representations 201 00:07:35,199 --> 00:07:41,599 in them you know of incredibly colorful 202 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:45,840 beautiful human beings that 203 00:07:41,599 --> 00:07:48,159 um that i admire so deeply so 204 00:07:45,840 --> 00:07:48,960 having you know the opportunity to see 205 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:51,280 myself 206 00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:53,599 represented in them because they see 207 00:07:51,280 --> 00:07:56,239 themselves represented 208 00:07:53,599 --> 00:07:57,680 yeah you know totally such a it's such 209 00:07:56,240 --> 00:08:00,800 an amazing 210 00:07:57,680 --> 00:08:04,639 mirror um that we 211 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:08,160 you know but but that's what i um 212 00:08:04,639 --> 00:08:10,319 find so beautiful is like how much 213 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:11,360 they helped me and without even knowing 214 00:08:10,319 --> 00:08:14,000 it because they were 215 00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:15,759 coming to me to see how much i was 216 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:18,160 helping them 217 00:08:15,759 --> 00:08:19,759 with by playing waverly and actually 218 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:23,280 everything i was feeling was 219 00:08:19,759 --> 00:08:26,000 just immense gratitude for them 220 00:08:23,280 --> 00:08:28,080 showing me what it's like to be proud of 221 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:32,399 their sexuality or to be coming 222 00:08:28,080 --> 00:08:34,718 into their pride so 223 00:08:32,399 --> 00:08:36,000 yeah it's just like you say cat it's 224 00:08:34,719 --> 00:08:39,120 been it's been 225 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:42,479 so important for so many people and 226 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:43,360 myself included i love that i love the 227 00:08:42,479 --> 00:08:45,200 idea that 228 00:08:43,360 --> 00:08:49,200 because you're absolutely right i mean 229 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:51,680 being around that community of people 230 00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:52,800 like it was it's such that give and take 231 00:08:51,680 --> 00:08:54,479 that they've 232 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:56,560 you know they've come to us with 233 00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:58,160 gratitude for what we've been a part of 234 00:08:56,560 --> 00:09:00,959 for them but it goes 235 00:08:58,160 --> 00:09:02,560 like both ways completely exactly and i 236 00:09:00,959 --> 00:09:04,160 mean i just don't know 237 00:09:02,560 --> 00:09:05,839 you know who knows where either of us 238 00:09:04,160 --> 00:09:08,240 would have been without it 239 00:09:05,839 --> 00:09:11,120 i i guess to a certain to a certain 240 00:09:08,240 --> 00:09:14,240 extent i think everyone's on their own 241 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:15,680 their own time but i think i think there 242 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:17,600 are certain things that are 243 00:09:15,680 --> 00:09:19,760 that are definitely meant to be and and 244 00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:22,080 this this feels like one of those 245 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:23,040 one of those for sure in both of them 246 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:26,959 our lives 247 00:09:23,040 --> 00:09:27,519 in different ways oh so beautifully said 248 00:09:26,959 --> 00:09:30,160 i think it 249 00:09:27,519 --> 00:09:30,560 leads into one of the things that i've 250 00:09:30,160 --> 00:09:32,240 really 251 00:09:30,560 --> 00:09:33,760 kind of loved seeing especially in the 252 00:09:32,240 --> 00:09:36,959 recent seasons um 253 00:09:33,760 --> 00:09:40,080 has been just nicole kind of getting 254 00:09:36,959 --> 00:09:42,399 so close to winona and kind of becoming 255 00:09:40,080 --> 00:09:44,080 another sister to her in this really 256 00:09:42,399 --> 00:09:46,240 kind of 257 00:09:44,080 --> 00:09:48,240 meaningful found family that's really 258 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:51,360 been created between 259 00:09:48,240 --> 00:09:53,279 the earpers and dock and um 260 00:09:51,360 --> 00:09:55,680 and just all and jeremy and all of these 261 00:09:53,279 --> 00:09:58,160 characters so what has it been 262 00:09:55,680 --> 00:09:59,120 like um for you kind of developing that 263 00:09:58,160 --> 00:10:02,160 relationship 264 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:04,320 and and for nicole to have that kind of 265 00:10:02,160 --> 00:10:07,439 found family that she has now 266 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:10,000 surrounded herself with yeah i love the 267 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:13,040 theme of found family on our show 268 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:13,600 i think it's one of my favorite through 269 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:17,040 lines 270 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:20,320 of winona earp this idea that you can 271 00:10:17,040 --> 00:10:21,839 you can choose your own family and 272 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:23,920 it doesn't have to be the one that you 273 00:10:21,839 --> 00:10:27,040 were born into and 274 00:10:23,920 --> 00:10:28,079 just that that choice over who you let 275 00:10:27,040 --> 00:10:30,800 into your life and 276 00:10:28,079 --> 00:10:31,439 who affects you and who shapes you and 277 00:10:30,800 --> 00:10:33,199 and 278 00:10:31,440 --> 00:10:35,600 i mean there are home situations that we 279 00:10:33,200 --> 00:10:39,040 can't get away from sometimes but 280 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:41,120 there is community out there and ways to 281 00:10:39,040 --> 00:10:42,640 find your i always talk about this like 282 00:10:41,120 --> 00:10:44,560 i think it's so important that you find 283 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:47,040 your tribe and find your people that 284 00:10:44,560 --> 00:10:48,479 lift you up and and and create a space 285 00:10:47,040 --> 00:10:51,599 for you to live as your most 286 00:10:48,480 --> 00:10:52,720 authentic self and i think that that's a 287 00:10:51,600 --> 00:10:55,440 theme 288 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:56,880 in winona earp all the time and we we're 289 00:10:55,440 --> 00:11:01,040 this sort of like 290 00:10:56,880 --> 00:11:03,360 ragtag group of misfits in some way 291 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:05,120 and that we've found this family and 292 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:05,920 created this family together i think is 293 00:11:05,120 --> 00:11:07,839 so 294 00:11:05,920 --> 00:11:10,880 perfect and beautiful and i think nicole 295 00:11:07,839 --> 00:11:13,040 was alone for a really long time 296 00:11:10,880 --> 00:11:14,800 um you know she had friends and some 297 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:15,839 extended family but i don't think she 298 00:11:14,800 --> 00:11:18,959 really had that 299 00:11:15,839 --> 00:11:20,880 that support system that sort of 300 00:11:18,959 --> 00:11:22,640 you know someone who would be there for 301 00:11:20,880 --> 00:11:24,320 her no matter what and i think it's part 302 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:25,600 of what made her who she is and made her 303 00:11:24,320 --> 00:11:28,880 so dependent and so 304 00:11:25,600 --> 00:11:31,680 self-sufficient um but i think 305 00:11:28,880 --> 00:11:33,120 spending too long like that also breaks 306 00:11:31,680 --> 00:11:34,479 you away from a little bit of your 307 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:37,920 humanity in a little bit 308 00:11:34,480 --> 00:11:40,480 in a way and that we need each other and 309 00:11:37,920 --> 00:11:42,079 we're it's important to have people who 310 00:11:40,480 --> 00:11:45,600 love you around you and the person 311 00:11:42,079 --> 00:11:48,239 who's gonna notice if you are not okay 312 00:11:45,600 --> 00:11:49,120 or if if you give you a sense of 313 00:11:48,240 --> 00:11:51,040 belonging 314 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:52,800 a sense of belonging and i think she 315 00:11:51,040 --> 00:11:55,040 finally 316 00:11:52,800 --> 00:11:56,000 landed it's been really beautiful to 317 00:11:55,040 --> 00:11:58,240 watch the journey 318 00:11:56,000 --> 00:12:00,000 of her um i think she's been someone 319 00:11:58,240 --> 00:12:01,760 who's always wanted to let people in 320 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:03,360 but she's been let down by a lot of 321 00:12:01,760 --> 00:12:04,639 really important figures in her life i 322 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:08,079 think it was 323 00:12:04,639 --> 00:12:09,760 um hard for her maybe to feel like 324 00:12:08,079 --> 00:12:11,839 she was totally part of the family i 325 00:12:09,760 --> 00:12:13,760 also think the the nice thing i love 326 00:12:11,839 --> 00:12:16,160 about nicole is that 327 00:12:13,760 --> 00:12:19,200 she's not magical like she's kind of one 328 00:12:16,160 --> 00:12:21,040 of our only characters that doesn't have 329 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:22,480 um i mean her nedley i guess that 330 00:12:21,040 --> 00:12:25,760 doesn't have 331 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:28,160 a special ability or a power 332 00:12:25,760 --> 00:12:28,880 and but she's human and i think it's so 333 00:12:28,160 --> 00:12:31,439 important 334 00:12:28,880 --> 00:12:31,920 to have those characters who are just 335 00:12:31,440 --> 00:12:34,880 like 336 00:12:31,920 --> 00:12:35,920 you and i like you know just people and 337 00:12:34,880 --> 00:12:38,079 um 338 00:12:35,920 --> 00:12:38,959 and they only have the tools that every 339 00:12:38,079 --> 00:12:40,479 other person 340 00:12:38,959 --> 00:12:42,800 in the audience watching would have in 341 00:12:40,480 --> 00:12:44,320 that situation and i think um 342 00:12:42,800 --> 00:12:46,079 i think that's a really cool call 343 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:47,680 quality about her too that she's always 344 00:12:46,079 --> 00:12:49,359 sort of felt 345 00:12:47,680 --> 00:12:50,560 like she wasn't special enough to be 346 00:12:49,360 --> 00:12:52,639 part of the group where she couldn't 347 00:12:50,560 --> 00:12:54,399 contribute enough because she 348 00:12:52,639 --> 00:12:56,399 didn't have anything more to give than 349 00:12:54,399 --> 00:12:59,040 just as she was 350 00:12:56,399 --> 00:13:00,959 and um i think it's been really cool to 351 00:12:59,040 --> 00:13:03,120 see her really rewarding 352 00:13:00,959 --> 00:13:04,399 to see her find her place and feel 353 00:13:03,120 --> 00:13:07,600 settled with 354 00:13:04,399 --> 00:13:10,320 her people 355 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:10,800 yeah i think um i think that's kind of 356 00:13:10,320 --> 00:13:12,399 been 357 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:14,639 for me when i was when i was watching 358 00:13:12,399 --> 00:13:16,240 this season sort of 359 00:13:14,639 --> 00:13:17,760 it seems like nicole in a lot of ways 360 00:13:16,240 --> 00:13:18,240 has really kind of become sort of the 361 00:13:17,760 --> 00:13:20,880 heart 362 00:13:18,240 --> 00:13:21,680 of the family for this season where she 363 00:13:20,880 --> 00:13:24,639 is 364 00:13:21,680 --> 00:13:26,239 driving towards the sacrifice and and 365 00:13:24,639 --> 00:13:29,120 you know how much she can give 366 00:13:26,240 --> 00:13:30,800 for others um and and the impact that 367 00:13:29,120 --> 00:13:31,440 that has on everybody so i think 368 00:13:30,800 --> 00:13:34,160 especially 369 00:13:31,440 --> 00:13:35,200 like watching um episode five which i 370 00:13:34,160 --> 00:13:39,199 rewatched this morning 371 00:13:35,200 --> 00:13:42,639 uh like amazing performance i was shook 372 00:13:39,199 --> 00:13:44,160 but it's really like kind of felt like 373 00:13:42,639 --> 00:13:47,279 this is her season to really 374 00:13:44,160 --> 00:13:48,560 come into her own infinite and see more 375 00:13:47,279 --> 00:13:51,600 of her but also 376 00:13:48,560 --> 00:13:55,040 how she really has been 377 00:13:51,600 --> 00:13:57,760 so kind of folded into the family yeah 378 00:13:55,040 --> 00:14:00,079 it's just so nice to see her have that 379 00:13:57,760 --> 00:14:02,800 i've wanted that for her for so long and 380 00:14:00,079 --> 00:14:04,079 because i love her so much and i it's 381 00:14:02,800 --> 00:14:06,560 very gratifying 382 00:14:04,079 --> 00:14:08,160 to see character that you have such an 383 00:14:06,560 --> 00:14:11,599 affinity for 384 00:14:08,160 --> 00:14:15,600 be in such a happy um 385 00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:17,600 like a happy place which is where we now 386 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:19,279 start to see her this comes out after 387 00:14:17,600 --> 00:14:23,199 episode six right i've like just 388 00:14:19,279 --> 00:14:24,000 bit my tongue um to see her at the end 389 00:14:23,199 --> 00:14:27,040 of episode 390 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:29,680 six exactly where she wants to be 391 00:14:27,040 --> 00:14:30,079 and i just feel like that was really a 392 00:14:29,680 --> 00:14:33,279 big 393 00:14:30,079 --> 00:14:34,638 moment for for all of our characters we 394 00:14:33,279 --> 00:14:37,040 see them at 395 00:14:34,639 --> 00:14:38,880 very different places at the end of six 396 00:14:37,040 --> 00:14:41,279 but also big on nicole and 397 00:14:38,880 --> 00:14:42,880 i just i just felt like she finally 398 00:14:41,279 --> 00:14:44,959 arrived at where 399 00:14:42,880 --> 00:14:46,240 she's been trying to get for so many 400 00:14:44,959 --> 00:14:50,319 years 401 00:14:46,240 --> 00:14:50,320 um and i was really happy for her 402 00:14:50,720 --> 00:14:53,839 yeah i think there has been you know as 403 00:14:53,279 --> 00:14:55,439 fans 404 00:14:53,839 --> 00:14:58,160 it feels like every season has really 405 00:14:55,440 --> 00:14:58,880 kind of given us a new layer or a new 406 00:14:58,160 --> 00:15:02,480 side 407 00:14:58,880 --> 00:15:05,279 to um to nicole and waverly from like 408 00:15:02,480 --> 00:15:06,560 evil to angel and trauma to romance like 409 00:15:05,279 --> 00:15:07,439 you're kind of doing a little bit of 410 00:15:06,560 --> 00:15:09,279 everything 411 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:10,880 um but now that you've been doing the 412 00:15:09,279 --> 00:15:12,160 show for a few years and you know these 413 00:15:10,880 --> 00:15:14,560 characters so well 414 00:15:12,160 --> 00:15:15,360 how has that kind of um sort of 415 00:15:14,560 --> 00:15:16,880 experience 416 00:15:15,360 --> 00:15:19,040 been to be able to live with those 417 00:15:16,880 --> 00:15:22,079 characters and and develop them 418 00:15:19,040 --> 00:15:22,880 and uh and you know waverly and nicole's 419 00:15:22,079 --> 00:15:24,719 dynamic as 420 00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:26,079 as a couple and how they relate to each 421 00:15:24,720 --> 00:15:30,240 other and how they relate to the bigger 422 00:15:26,079 --> 00:15:33,279 kind of family well i must say that 423 00:15:30,240 --> 00:15:37,199 during this prolonged break 424 00:15:33,279 --> 00:15:40,079 i almost felt like i missed waverly 425 00:15:37,199 --> 00:15:41,920 um which was an odd feeling it was i was 426 00:15:40,079 --> 00:15:44,399 so excited to reconnect with her 427 00:15:41,920 --> 00:15:46,399 because she's been such an inspiration 428 00:15:44,399 --> 00:15:50,000 as a character and as a 429 00:15:46,399 --> 00:15:51,600 as a person her example of bravery um 430 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:54,959 has been something that has really 431 00:15:51,600 --> 00:15:58,639 influenced me in my own life 432 00:15:54,959 --> 00:16:00,399 so so yeah that that that pause 433 00:15:58,639 --> 00:16:03,360 almost felt like i was missing a part of 434 00:16:00,399 --> 00:16:07,040 myself the the part of me that develops 435 00:16:03,360 --> 00:16:09,759 when i play waverly was almost um 436 00:16:07,040 --> 00:16:10,399 slipping away in some in some ways you 437 00:16:09,759 --> 00:16:12,399 know 438 00:16:10,399 --> 00:16:14,320 uh that probably sounds very odd to 439 00:16:12,399 --> 00:16:15,680 people that don't act but do you sort of 440 00:16:14,320 --> 00:16:18,560 understand what i mean 441 00:16:15,680 --> 00:16:21,120 like when you you know that yeah like 442 00:16:18,560 --> 00:16:22,880 there's something that happens when you 443 00:16:21,120 --> 00:16:24,160 play another character and you go 444 00:16:22,880 --> 00:16:27,680 through that journey 445 00:16:24,160 --> 00:16:28,959 and yeah sort of exercise certain 446 00:16:27,680 --> 00:16:29,599 muscles that maybe you don't in your 447 00:16:28,959 --> 00:16:32,399 normal life 448 00:16:29,600 --> 00:16:34,639 and so i did feel i felt very very 449 00:16:32,399 --> 00:16:38,320 excited to reconnect with her this year 450 00:16:34,639 --> 00:16:39,519 um and i was expecting to find it harder 451 00:16:38,320 --> 00:16:42,320 to get back into 452 00:16:39,519 --> 00:16:43,120 waverly because we had taken that time 453 00:16:42,320 --> 00:16:46,160 um 454 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:46,959 you know we've had we hadn't taken the 455 00:16:46,160 --> 00:16:48,959 time where it was 456 00:16:46,959 --> 00:16:50,000 it wasn't that we wanted the break but 457 00:16:48,959 --> 00:16:54,638 you know that that 458 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:58,639 time had um you know had had gone by so 459 00:16:54,639 --> 00:17:01,519 um but actually it was because i think 460 00:16:58,639 --> 00:17:02,240 we have been playing these characters 461 00:17:01,519 --> 00:17:05,280 for such 462 00:17:02,240 --> 00:17:07,839 a large chunk of our 463 00:17:05,280 --> 00:17:09,599 lives in some ways you know like well 464 00:17:07,839 --> 00:17:13,438 for me it feels like that from 465 00:17:09,599 --> 00:17:15,599 25 or to whatever to 30 or 24 to 30. 466 00:17:13,439 --> 00:17:18,000 it's a you know it's very um 467 00:17:15,599 --> 00:17:20,480 impressionable important years for me 468 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:22,559 so i think because of that it was a lot 469 00:17:20,480 --> 00:17:24,240 easier than i was anticipating coming 470 00:17:22,559 --> 00:17:27,119 back and stepping into her shoes 471 00:17:24,240 --> 00:17:27,839 and it just feels like coming home now 472 00:17:27,119 --> 00:17:29,918 which is 473 00:17:27,839 --> 00:17:32,399 a really beautiful feeling coming home 474 00:17:29,919 --> 00:17:35,679 to you know that chosen family 475 00:17:32,400 --> 00:17:36,400 and and uh yeah in particular i would 476 00:17:35,679 --> 00:17:39,360 say i've 477 00:17:36,400 --> 00:17:40,160 really loved um the waverly nicole 478 00:17:39,360 --> 00:17:42,959 relationship 479 00:17:40,160 --> 00:17:43,760 how uh the parts that we're representing 480 00:17:42,960 --> 00:17:45,280 now 481 00:17:43,760 --> 00:17:46,799 just feel maybe it's because of where 482 00:17:45,280 --> 00:17:49,600 i'm at in my life and 483 00:17:46,799 --> 00:17:50,000 feeling so comfortable with that um if 484 00:17:49,600 --> 00:17:52,799 it 485 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:53,919 it just feels like it's perfectly timed 486 00:17:52,799 --> 00:17:57,200 to 487 00:17:53,919 --> 00:18:00,960 um explore and 488 00:17:57,200 --> 00:18:01,840 and um yeah settle into that place of 489 00:18:00,960 --> 00:18:05,120 comfort 490 00:18:01,840 --> 00:18:07,918 um and true true love 491 00:18:05,120 --> 00:18:08,639 you know i think we're really seeing 492 00:18:07,919 --> 00:18:15,840 them 493 00:18:08,640 --> 00:18:15,840 um becoming one to become one 494 00:18:16,799 --> 00:18:20,160 but like really you know two people 495 00:18:18,559 --> 00:18:23,360 becoming one 496 00:18:20,160 --> 00:18:26,080 uh force it's really special 497 00:18:23,360 --> 00:18:26,719 it's really really special um and like 498 00:18:26,080 --> 00:18:29,840 even 499 00:18:26,720 --> 00:18:33,679 you know like that scene that we did on 500 00:18:29,840 --> 00:18:35,840 the floor in was it last episode before 501 00:18:33,679 --> 00:18:37,280 you know i forget which episode but yeah 502 00:18:35,840 --> 00:18:40,840 when we had sex in 503 00:18:37,280 --> 00:18:42,000 like the post sex on the floor like 504 00:18:40,840 --> 00:18:45,360 before after sex 505 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:48,400 on the kitchen floor and like just 506 00:18:45,360 --> 00:18:48,799 how playful we were that day and how 507 00:18:48,400 --> 00:18:50,640 much 508 00:18:48,799 --> 00:18:52,720 time we got to spend on that scene you 509 00:18:50,640 --> 00:18:53,200 know we did that scene honestly so many 510 00:18:52,720 --> 00:18:56,480 times 511 00:18:53,200 --> 00:18:59,600 but so many times who directed it 512 00:18:56,480 --> 00:18:59,919 yeah yeah love that man he was just like 513 00:18:59,600 --> 00:19:02,080 this 514 00:18:59,919 --> 00:19:04,080 he just really wanted us to have that 515 00:19:02,080 --> 00:19:05,600 time he was i think he was so happy for 516 00:19:04,080 --> 00:19:08,159 the characters as well 517 00:19:05,600 --> 00:19:08,639 like seeing their their journey and like 518 00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:11,200 he 519 00:19:08,640 --> 00:19:12,080 was directed director ron murphy was the 520 00:19:11,200 --> 00:19:15,440 director who 521 00:19:12,080 --> 00:19:17,199 did the very lots of very iconic 522 00:19:15,440 --> 00:19:19,440 way hot scenes just by chance so like 523 00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:23,360 the initial scene when we first met 524 00:19:19,440 --> 00:19:26,720 then the couch scene you know this um 525 00:19:23,360 --> 00:19:27,439 nedley's couch and then uh you know huge 526 00:19:26,720 --> 00:19:30,400 scenes so 527 00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:32,559 for him i think that there is such a 528 00:19:30,400 --> 00:19:35,679 like all of us just like such a 529 00:19:32,559 --> 00:19:36,480 a joy that that we're like the journey 530 00:19:35,679 --> 00:19:38,720 for the 531 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:40,799 joy for the journey that we've come on 532 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:43,280 um so we just got to play 533 00:19:40,799 --> 00:19:44,080 you know for probably too long 534 00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:46,879 considering 535 00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:47,678 how you know yeah how how strapped we 536 00:19:46,880 --> 00:19:49,919 are the first time 537 00:19:47,679 --> 00:19:50,799 yeah yeah it's certainly on your time 538 00:19:49,919 --> 00:19:54,080 but but 539 00:19:50,799 --> 00:19:56,320 but i've really enjoyed those scenes 540 00:19:54,080 --> 00:19:57,120 uh playing those things with you i feel 541 00:19:56,320 --> 00:19:59,760 like we've had 542 00:19:57,120 --> 00:20:01,600 more nicole and waverly this year than 543 00:19:59,760 --> 00:20:05,200 last year 544 00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:09,840 i think so i think so it feels it feels 545 00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:12,240 more more it like not just that word 546 00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:14,158 yeah but i've like we've had more scenes 547 00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:15,760 together i would say 548 00:20:14,159 --> 00:20:17,919 i think yeah it feels that i think so 549 00:20:15,760 --> 00:20:21,120 yeah 550 00:20:17,919 --> 00:20:24,480 yeah yeah so we have to talk about the 551 00:20:21,120 --> 00:20:27,678 mid-season finale and that proposal 552 00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:30,880 uh i loved it i may have um 553 00:20:27,679 --> 00:20:33,600 screamed at my desk a little bit so 554 00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:34,799 the engagement back on is there anything 555 00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:37,280 that you can tell us about 556 00:20:34,799 --> 00:20:37,918 what is coming up for waverly nicole 557 00:20:37,280 --> 00:20:41,200 maybe 558 00:20:37,919 --> 00:20:43,520 finally away hot wedding is there 559 00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:47,039 anything we should tell you 560 00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:50,960 likes are you asking me to say 561 00:20:47,039 --> 00:20:53,600 don't put us in that position um 562 00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:54,720 i think i am i think everyone will be 563 00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:58,080 really happy 564 00:20:54,720 --> 00:21:01,679 to continue to watch their journey um 565 00:20:58,080 --> 00:21:03,520 i think we've spoken a little bit about 566 00:21:01,679 --> 00:21:05,760 um 567 00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:07,120 that scene dom i know you and i have 568 00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:10,640 spoken about the 569 00:21:07,120 --> 00:21:14,000 the fire fireplace proposal and just how 570 00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:15,840 how beautiful it was and it was just 571 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:18,240 again it was sort of like don was saying 572 00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:21,360 about um the last scene 573 00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:22,799 that that it was so amazing for the 574 00:21:21,360 --> 00:21:26,479 characters like we just 575 00:21:22,799 --> 00:21:27,918 we want it for them so badly um 576 00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:30,039 and we want i mean we want it for the 577 00:21:27,919 --> 00:21:31,919 audience we want it for the amazing 578 00:21:30,039 --> 00:21:34,000 representation that we know it's going 579 00:21:31,919 --> 00:21:37,039 to provide for so many people 580 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:40,000 and but at the core of it 581 00:21:37,039 --> 00:21:40,640 it it was so perfectly earned like i 582 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:42,720 feel like 583 00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:44,240 we always say this about way hot but i 584 00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:44,720 think it's important to keep saying it 585 00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:46,000 like 586 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:47,679 i think the reason that this 587 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:49,600 relationship strikes such a chord with 588 00:21:47,679 --> 00:21:52,320 people is because it's so well 589 00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:54,000 paced i know that seems like a really 590 00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:56,000 silly thing to say but 591 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:58,400 i feel like every moment with them is 592 00:21:56,000 --> 00:22:01,840 earned and that makes it feel so 593 00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:03,840 real and so grounded because it just 594 00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:05,600 feels like we've been working towards it 595 00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:07,199 and fighting for it and working towards 596 00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:08,240 it and it feels like the natural 597 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:09,760 progression 598 00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:11,440 of a relationship you know these aren't 599 00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:13,840 characters who like 600 00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:14,960 got together in the first episode of 601 00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:16,720 meeting and like 602 00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:18,480 i think it's just been a beautiful 603 00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:19,280 journey to show like the real ebbs and 604 00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:22,400 flows of a 605 00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:26,080 real true love relationship 606 00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:27,840 and and i'm so i'm so happy with the way 607 00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:30,158 that the proposal because i always 608 00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:32,240 wanted like a little bit of a redo on 609 00:22:30,159 --> 00:22:34,320 the proposal i always thought 610 00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:35,919 we could just do more but you know not 611 00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:37,840 something that was so grief-stricken and 612 00:22:35,919 --> 00:22:38,559 surrounded by so much pain but something 613 00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:41,120 that 614 00:22:38,559 --> 00:22:41,760 deserved its own moment to be beautiful 615 00:22:41,120 --> 00:22:44,879 and 616 00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:47,280 vulnerable and fragile it was perfect 617 00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:49,360 yeah i loved the fact that though like 618 00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:49,840 all of the other characters were there 619 00:22:49,360 --> 00:22:51,760 too 620 00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:53,039 i thought that was a really beautiful 621 00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:56,640 choice 622 00:22:53,039 --> 00:22:59,360 and how it was almost very spontaneous 623 00:22:56,640 --> 00:23:01,200 in its even though we've been waiting 624 00:22:59,360 --> 00:23:02,559 for it for such a long time 625 00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:04,960 it was still had that sense of 626 00:23:02,559 --> 00:23:07,600 spontaneity and very 627 00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:08,480 nicole unwaverly and then yeah like i 628 00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:10,959 say having 629 00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:12,320 the whole team around and feeling that 630 00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:14,080 sense of family 631 00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:15,600 and the fact that we're all in it 632 00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:17,120 together there's just something so 633 00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:19,678 beautiful about that 634 00:23:17,120 --> 00:23:20,639 and then of course like the roaring fire 635 00:23:19,679 --> 00:23:22,480 and 636 00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:24,240 i just absolutely loved filming that 637 00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:25,039 scene i have to say i can't wait to 638 00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:26,640 watch it 639 00:23:25,039 --> 00:23:28,080 because i haven't seen that yet have you 640 00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:30,480 seen it have you seen there's been like 641 00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:30,480 a time 642 00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:35,679 i adred a little bit of it too yeah but 643 00:23:33,919 --> 00:23:38,240 i haven't seen it 644 00:23:35,679 --> 00:23:38,799 and it's the whole thing built the whole 645 00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:40,880 thing 646 00:23:38,799 --> 00:23:42,879 and the build up and the whole edits and 647 00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:46,320 i'm excited to watch it 648 00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:46,880 yeah thank you both for being with us 649 00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:50,000 today 650 00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:53,360 we cannot wait for the 651 00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:56,000 rest of season 4 and for all of you fans 652 00:23:53,360 --> 00:23:57,120 don't miss all new episodes of winona 653 00:23:56,000 --> 00:24:05,840 earp coming to 654 00:23:57,120 --> 00:24:05,840 sci-fi in 2021 655 00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:08,799 you 44780

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