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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:09,924 --> 00:00:12,923 -=Sync&Corrected by Misiek666=- 2 00:00:12,947 --> 00:00:15,947 -=Podnapisi.net=- 3 00:00:23,524 --> 00:00:24,857 Here's a scene that has long 4 00:00:24,859 --> 00:00:27,326 Since ceased causing any surprise. 5 00:00:27,328 --> 00:00:30,429 The womenfolk washing dishes made of plastic. 6 00:00:30,431 --> 00:00:33,198 Dishes that bounce when they drop to the floor. 7 00:00:33,200 --> 00:00:36,235 Hard to realize it, but it was only 10 years ago 8 00:00:36,237 --> 00:00:39,171 That the first pound of polystyrene plastic was sold 9 00:00:43,044 --> 00:00:46,512 And the chemical age is just dawning. 10 00:00:49,450 --> 00:00:51,884 These few things, my friends, 11 00:00:51,886 --> 00:00:55,421 Are only a hint of what american industry holds in the future. 12 00:01:01,328 --> 00:01:05,297 Yes, mylar's properties are right in its molecules 13 00:01:05,299 --> 00:01:10,436 And with them are coming new and better things for us all. 14 00:01:12,273 --> 00:01:16,141 Today will be a better day for a lot of people 15 00:01:16,143 --> 00:01:20,012 Simply because of a material we call plastic. 16 00:01:22,550 --> 00:01:27,553 This industry is well positioned to build on our accomplishments 17 00:01:27,555 --> 00:01:31,490 To shape a sustainable and prosperous future. 18 00:01:33,961 --> 00:01:37,863 In summary, we believe the best is yet to come. 19 00:01:49,743 --> 00:01:52,744 Captions by vitac... www.Vitac.Com 20 00:01:52,746 --> 00:01:55,781 Captions paid for by discovery communications 21 00:01:59,153 --> 00:02:00,986 Carpenter: I think, like many people, I had noticed 22 00:02:00,988 --> 00:02:03,322 A real surge of attention and interest 23 00:02:03,324 --> 00:02:05,891 In the issue of plastic pollution. 24 00:02:23,978 --> 00:02:27,212 This sort of all came about from conversations with activists 25 00:02:27,214 --> 00:02:30,382 Who are working on plastics issues. 26 00:02:30,384 --> 00:02:32,217 Oftentimes what I do is ask people 27 00:02:32,219 --> 00:02:33,352 That are close to an issue, 28 00:02:33,354 --> 00:02:36,021 How they feel about the media coverage. 29 00:02:37,958 --> 00:02:39,658 And one thing I was consistently hearing 30 00:02:39,660 --> 00:02:42,828 Was that there was a gap in coverage 31 00:02:42,830 --> 00:02:45,664 When it came to the front end of the story. 32 00:02:45,666 --> 00:02:48,800 So there was a ton of attention around the final stage 33 00:02:48,802 --> 00:02:50,536 Of the plastics lifecycle 34 00:02:50,538 --> 00:02:52,771 When it actually becomes pollution, 35 00:02:52,773 --> 00:02:55,040 But not as many people were telling the story 36 00:02:55,042 --> 00:02:57,309 About where plastic comes from. 37 00:03:13,227 --> 00:03:16,161 You can never solve the plastic waste crisis 38 00:03:16,163 --> 00:03:19,198 Just by dealing with it as a waste issue. 39 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:22,534 Who is making the plastics in the first place and why? 40 00:03:24,972 --> 00:03:28,173 Blair: History of plastics began over 30 million years ago 41 00:03:28,175 --> 00:03:31,577 When intense heat, natural chemical changes, 42 00:03:31,579 --> 00:03:33,212 And tremendous pressures created 43 00:03:33,214 --> 00:03:35,480 By the shifting of the earth's crust 44 00:03:35,482 --> 00:03:37,950 Formed the substance needed to make plastic... 45 00:03:37,952 --> 00:03:41,086 Petroleum. 46 00:03:41,088 --> 00:03:45,891 Muffett: 99% of what goes into plastics is fossil fuels, 47 00:03:45,893 --> 00:03:49,027 And so unsurprisingly, the same companies that make plastics 48 00:03:49,029 --> 00:03:51,663 Are also the companies that sell us fossil fuels... 49 00:03:51,665 --> 00:03:57,636 Exxon, chevron, conoco phillips, shell, and dow dupont, 50 00:03:57,638 --> 00:04:00,239 Which in addition to being a major chemicals company, 51 00:04:00,241 --> 00:04:02,941 Is also a major player in oil and gas. 52 00:04:08,048 --> 00:04:11,283 Plastics were initially a waste product. 53 00:04:11,285 --> 00:04:13,252 The company could either pay 54 00:04:13,254 --> 00:04:15,754 To dispose of the leftovers responsibly 55 00:04:15,756 --> 00:04:17,876 Or it could turn them into a new product. 56 00:04:19,793 --> 00:04:22,294 Miller: Oil companies compete with each other 57 00:04:22,296 --> 00:04:25,230 In taking the petroleum molecule apart 58 00:04:25,232 --> 00:04:27,232 And rearranging it into... 59 00:04:27,234 --> 00:04:28,934 Well, you name it... 60 00:04:28,936 --> 00:04:36,041 Fabric's, toothbrushes, tires, insecticides, cosmetics, 61 00:04:36,043 --> 00:04:37,843 Weed killers, 62 00:04:37,845 --> 00:04:42,414 A whole galaxy of things to make a better life on earth. 63 00:05:03,337 --> 00:05:06,405 Just as there are many kinds of woods and metals, 64 00:05:06,407 --> 00:05:10,309 So there are many kinds of plastics. 65 00:05:10,311 --> 00:05:12,711 This is plexiglass, too, 66 00:05:12,713 --> 00:05:13,945 One of the most fascinating 67 00:05:13,947 --> 00:05:16,615 And beautiful of the new plastic materials 68 00:05:16,617 --> 00:05:18,784 Created by chemical science, 69 00:05:18,786 --> 00:05:22,287 Ready to bring new beauty and comfort to your home 70 00:05:22,289 --> 00:05:24,956 And add charm to your peace-time living. 71 00:05:29,530 --> 00:05:31,663 Mafira: Plastic is a miracle material. 72 00:05:31,665 --> 00:05:32,964 When it was created, 73 00:05:32,966 --> 00:05:36,368 It was hailed as the biggest invention of the time. 74 00:05:39,006 --> 00:05:43,308 It's extremely durable. It lasts very, very long. 75 00:05:43,310 --> 00:05:44,910 And so the reality is that 76 00:05:44,912 --> 00:05:49,381 Because plastic has all these good qualities, 77 00:05:49,383 --> 00:05:52,050 It's extremely bad for the environment. 78 00:05:59,827 --> 00:06:01,593 I was a corporate lawyer for six years, 79 00:06:01,595 --> 00:06:03,795 And then I decided to leave it to work on something 80 00:06:03,797 --> 00:06:05,697 That I actually cared about 81 00:06:05,699 --> 00:06:09,701 And where I actually had a personal stake in the outcome. 82 00:06:12,740 --> 00:06:15,374 15 years ago, I could still go to a pristine beach 83 00:06:15,376 --> 00:06:17,042 And collect seashells. 84 00:06:17,044 --> 00:06:20,679 And it makes me sad to think that some of the children 85 00:06:20,681 --> 00:06:24,383 Born today, and even my own daughter, 86 00:06:24,385 --> 00:06:29,154 Won't have the memory of a cleaner world. 87 00:06:33,994 --> 00:06:38,063 I just want her to be aware of why her world 88 00:06:38,065 --> 00:06:41,366 Is the way it is and that it could be better. 89 00:06:47,908 --> 00:06:49,975 I feel like I don't know how to answer anymore 90 00:06:49,977 --> 00:06:52,277 When people say, 91 00:06:52,279 --> 00:06:55,080 "why are you focusing on plastic? 92 00:06:55,082 --> 00:06:57,682 Why is plastic a problem?" 93 00:06:57,684 --> 00:07:02,521 I mean, I feel like I should just take them here 94 00:07:02,523 --> 00:07:03,922 And not say anything, 95 00:07:03,924 --> 00:07:07,259 Just take them here and then see what they think, 96 00:07:07,261 --> 00:07:10,796 Whether they think plastic bags are not a problem anymore. 97 00:07:15,569 --> 00:07:19,871 I can still remember a time when I was still a teenager 98 00:07:19,873 --> 00:07:21,973 And this wasn't a problem, 99 00:07:21,975 --> 00:07:25,644 So we're not talking about decades. 100 00:07:25,646 --> 00:07:28,747 We're talking about maybe 10 to 15 years 101 00:07:28,749 --> 00:07:32,184 Of this kind of lifestyle. 102 00:07:35,456 --> 00:07:37,756 A lot of the single-use plastics 103 00:07:37,758 --> 00:07:40,025 That end up polluting our planet, 104 00:07:40,027 --> 00:07:42,961 We only use them once and they stay forever. 105 00:07:42,963 --> 00:07:45,464 They're made of a material that lasts forever. 106 00:07:47,634 --> 00:07:50,302 They're not something that we need 107 00:07:50,304 --> 00:07:52,604 As an essential part of our lives. 108 00:07:54,975 --> 00:07:57,175 And yet, here we are, stuck with it. 109 00:08:01,014 --> 00:08:03,181 Russell: Unfortunately, data are coming back that plastics 110 00:08:03,183 --> 00:08:05,851 Really are a significant component of the waste 111 00:08:05,853 --> 00:08:09,054 That enters the ocean, so that's largely a matter 112 00:08:09,056 --> 00:08:12,657 Of poorly or unmanaged municipal solid waste. 113 00:08:12,659 --> 00:08:14,326 In parts of the world, 114 00:08:14,328 --> 00:08:19,064 Unlike here, where there is not an infrastructure to gather 115 00:08:19,066 --> 00:08:22,067 And appropriately dispose of the waste. 116 00:08:24,271 --> 00:08:29,107 I think what's most frustrating is that the industries are out 117 00:08:29,109 --> 00:08:32,143 There pushing the idea that this is all 118 00:08:32,145 --> 00:08:36,014 Because of bad management. You know, that the waste is here 119 00:08:36,016 --> 00:08:38,917 Because the government isn't putting enough funding 120 00:08:38,919 --> 00:08:41,186 Into proper waste management, 121 00:08:41,188 --> 00:08:45,423 But they're distracting from the truth, 122 00:08:45,425 --> 00:08:48,493 Which is that there is no way you can manage this waste. 123 00:08:48,495 --> 00:08:50,529 It's not meant to be managed. 124 00:08:53,200 --> 00:08:54,499 I think we should band together 125 00:08:54,501 --> 00:08:57,702 And have a serious discussion on a global scale 126 00:08:57,704 --> 00:09:00,672 Because these companies are operating on a global scale. 127 00:09:27,034 --> 00:09:29,367 Sharma: The issue of waste and plastic pollution, 128 00:09:29,369 --> 00:09:33,772 It is about this deeply embedded injustice 129 00:09:33,774 --> 00:09:36,575 That really motivates me to keep doing what I'm doing. 130 00:09:42,215 --> 00:09:46,718 We are standing in ghazipur d-block dairy farm 131 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:48,954 Next to the landfill, which receives waste 132 00:09:48,956 --> 00:09:52,190 From almost half of delhi. 133 00:10:27,694 --> 00:10:30,328 Sharma: Plastic products are only creating 134 00:10:30,330 --> 00:10:33,331 A mountain of waste in india. 135 00:10:45,879 --> 00:10:48,747 Reagan: Trash only becomes trash after it 136 00:10:48,749 --> 00:10:51,316 Has first served a useful purpose. 137 00:10:55,722 --> 00:10:57,088 The art of modern packaging 138 00:10:57,090 --> 00:11:01,059 Has helped to make our outings even more enjoyable. 139 00:11:01,061 --> 00:11:03,328 But it is these wonderful packages 140 00:11:03,330 --> 00:11:05,096 Thoughtlessly discarded, 141 00:11:05,098 --> 00:11:07,666 Which we carelessly convert to litter. 142 00:11:31,224 --> 00:11:32,857 Carpenter: I think in a lot of discussions 143 00:11:32,859 --> 00:11:34,526 Of various environmental problems, 144 00:11:34,528 --> 00:11:37,729 We put a lot of onus on the consumer. 145 00:11:37,731 --> 00:11:39,931 And that's an easy-to-digest narrative, 146 00:11:39,933 --> 00:11:41,893 Even though it's very simplistic. 147 00:11:42,769 --> 00:11:48,206 People start pollution. People can stop it. 148 00:11:48,208 --> 00:11:50,809 Carpenter: And I do think that there is a place for that. 149 00:11:50,811 --> 00:11:52,610 But I think that that often has the effect 150 00:11:52,612 --> 00:11:55,680 Of obscuring the big structural issues 151 00:11:55,682 --> 00:11:57,849 That are driving many of these environmental problems 152 00:11:57,851 --> 00:12:00,351 And the fact that the people that are profiting 153 00:12:00,353 --> 00:12:03,154 Off of creating environmental issues 154 00:12:03,156 --> 00:12:05,757 Are not being asked to change their own behavior. 155 00:12:32,085 --> 00:12:35,253 Grate: On a personal level, I have stopped using plastic bags 156 00:12:35,255 --> 00:12:38,389 And plastic straws, and that's a great thing, 157 00:12:38,391 --> 00:12:42,227 But you realize at the systematic level, 158 00:12:42,229 --> 00:12:43,828 That doesn't change anything. 159 00:12:50,570 --> 00:12:54,172 I grew up in an island enjoying nature. 160 00:12:54,174 --> 00:12:58,143 When I was in college, I moved to manila to study. 161 00:13:02,149 --> 00:13:05,316 The first thing that struck me when I arrived here 162 00:13:05,318 --> 00:13:08,520 Was the amount of waste that's on the bay. 163 00:13:12,626 --> 00:13:15,927 This is not what I want for my island, 164 00:13:15,929 --> 00:13:18,763 The place where I grew up, and I know 165 00:13:18,765 --> 00:13:22,066 If I don't do something, that will happen. 166 00:13:30,677 --> 00:13:33,178 Plastic pollution is really a life and death issue 167 00:13:33,180 --> 00:13:36,447 For most people, at least in this part of the world. 168 00:13:38,819 --> 00:13:40,385 Manila bay is like a cove, 169 00:13:40,387 --> 00:13:43,955 And there's several provinces located along that coastline, 170 00:13:43,957 --> 00:13:47,559 So whatever the currents bring in from outside, 171 00:13:47,561 --> 00:13:52,063 They stay within that cove. And whatever waste 172 00:13:52,065 --> 00:13:56,167 Is deposited into the bay from the rivers also stays there. 173 00:14:00,440 --> 00:14:02,006 Every day, day in, day out, 174 00:14:02,008 --> 00:14:04,342 This cleaning operations going on. 175 00:14:10,016 --> 00:14:11,649 It's unending. 176 00:14:16,089 --> 00:14:19,390 You can do cleanups, and the problem will not go away. 177 00:14:22,095 --> 00:14:23,695 You have to look at the root causes. 178 00:14:23,697 --> 00:14:26,431 We can't be doing cleanups all our lives. 179 00:14:28,168 --> 00:14:29,767 This is not a solution. 180 00:14:44,618 --> 00:14:46,317 We're a archipelagic country 181 00:14:46,319 --> 00:14:50,421 And we depend on fish and seafood for sustenance. 182 00:14:50,423 --> 00:14:54,592 It is pretty much part of the filipino lifestyle and culture. 183 00:15:10,777 --> 00:15:12,243 60-40. 184 00:15:30,563 --> 00:15:32,997 Hernandez; the stuff we read about saying 185 00:15:32,999 --> 00:15:36,935 There'll be more plastics in the oceans than fish in 2050, 186 00:15:36,937 --> 00:15:39,804 That's actually a reality for most of these fishermen. 187 00:15:42,742 --> 00:15:46,511 And a lot of this is really unrecyclable plastics. 188 00:15:46,513 --> 00:15:49,447 A great percentage are really multi-layer packaging. 189 00:15:49,449 --> 00:15:52,116 The sachets that you find like this one, 190 00:15:52,118 --> 00:15:54,152 You cannot recycle this. 191 00:15:54,154 --> 00:15:59,490 Nobody bothers to collect them, that's why they end up here. 192 00:16:06,733 --> 00:16:09,200 Who bears the burden of this pollution? 193 00:16:09,202 --> 00:16:11,803 You have the marginal communities, 194 00:16:11,805 --> 00:16:14,806 Coastal communities, the fishing communities, and the people, 195 00:16:14,808 --> 00:16:19,277 The citizens who are forced, through their taxes, 196 00:16:19,279 --> 00:16:21,846 Shoulder the plastic cleanup. 197 00:16:25,285 --> 00:16:27,385 These companies have been able to get away 198 00:16:27,387 --> 00:16:29,354 With it for many years now. 199 00:16:51,544 --> 00:16:53,211 Bourque: We got into recycling 200 00:16:53,213 --> 00:16:55,613 Because we thought it was the right thing to do. 201 00:16:58,952 --> 00:17:01,586 Of course, it is a disposal service. 202 00:17:01,588 --> 00:17:05,523 At its core, it's taking stuff that people don't want anymore 203 00:17:05,525 --> 00:17:10,194 And trying to do something better than landfill with it. 204 00:17:10,196 --> 00:17:11,996 You can see the range of things 205 00:17:11,998 --> 00:17:14,065 That are coming out of people's houses. 206 00:17:14,067 --> 00:17:15,867 10, 15 years ago, 207 00:17:15,869 --> 00:17:21,305 This would have had a lot more aluminum, 208 00:17:21,307 --> 00:17:23,207 A lot more glass. 209 00:17:23,209 --> 00:17:27,211 It's amazing how many things have moved to plastic. 210 00:17:58,878 --> 00:18:02,146 Mafira: People think plastic can be recycled, 211 00:18:02,148 --> 00:18:07,051 But actually, most plastic is very hard to recycle. 212 00:18:07,053 --> 00:18:10,555 So this is data from the world economic forum. 213 00:18:10,557 --> 00:18:14,892 It shows that 32% of plastic packaging 214 00:18:14,894 --> 00:18:17,495 Ends up littering the environment, 215 00:18:17,497 --> 00:18:22,667 40% is sitting in a landfill somewhere, 216 00:18:22,669 --> 00:18:27,371 14% is incinerated, 14% is recycled, 217 00:18:27,373 --> 00:18:30,808 But only 2% is effectively recycled. 218 00:18:30,810 --> 00:18:34,245 Effectively recycled means that it's recycled into something 219 00:18:34,247 --> 00:18:38,382 That's actually as useful as what it was before. 220 00:18:38,384 --> 00:18:40,351 Most of it is down cycled, 221 00:18:40,353 --> 00:18:44,288 Meaning that it becomes something worse. 222 00:18:44,290 --> 00:18:46,090 Unlike glass and metals, 223 00:18:46,092 --> 00:18:48,593 Plastics degrade when they're recycled. 224 00:18:48,595 --> 00:18:51,562 Most recycled plastic is only recycled 225 00:18:51,564 --> 00:18:54,365 Once before ending up in landfills, 226 00:18:54,367 --> 00:18:57,001 Incinerators, and the environment. 227 00:19:09,716 --> 00:19:12,016 Cities around us had kind of caved 228 00:19:12,018 --> 00:19:16,587 To collect all plastics campaign 229 00:19:16,589 --> 00:19:19,557 Of the american chemistry council. 230 00:19:19,559 --> 00:19:22,026 Plastics recycling is pretty cool. 231 00:19:22,028 --> 00:19:24,929 And today, we're recycling more and more. 232 00:19:24,931 --> 00:19:27,932 Recycling plastics is a fairly simple process. 233 00:19:30,170 --> 00:19:35,373 In 2013, under significant pressure from our city council, 234 00:19:35,375 --> 00:19:39,844 We began accepting non-bottle mixed rigid plastic. 235 00:19:39,846 --> 00:19:42,480 So all the plastic containers... Berry containers, 236 00:19:42,482 --> 00:19:46,384 Keg cups, plastic cold cups, you know, from starbucks. 237 00:19:48,621 --> 00:19:50,888 Procter and gamble wants us all to believe 238 00:19:50,890 --> 00:19:52,857 That all their packaged goods 239 00:19:52,859 --> 00:19:56,894 Are in totally environmentally sound packaging. 240 00:19:56,896 --> 00:20:01,799 They want us all using single-use packaged products 241 00:20:01,801 --> 00:20:04,535 So that we're just on the supply chain. 242 00:20:07,974 --> 00:20:09,574 It's totally unfair to the cities 243 00:20:09,576 --> 00:20:11,042 And the recyclers on the back end 244 00:20:11,044 --> 00:20:14,011 Because then everyone says, "oh, it's recyclable. 245 00:20:14,013 --> 00:20:17,715 You should collect it." well, then what? 246 00:20:17,717 --> 00:20:21,219 We have to pay to sort it, we have to pay to process it, 247 00:20:21,221 --> 00:20:23,354 And then we don't have any markets for it. 248 00:20:25,425 --> 00:20:27,058 Once we said we would accept it 249 00:20:27,060 --> 00:20:30,328 And we would start sorting it and packing it for export, 250 00:20:30,330 --> 00:20:32,096 It was just like the floodgates were open. 251 00:20:32,098 --> 00:20:37,235 I mean, the tons went up and up and up and up and up. 252 00:20:37,237 --> 00:20:38,703 Because china was buying it, 253 00:20:38,705 --> 00:20:40,738 There actually was a market for that stuff, 254 00:20:40,740 --> 00:20:45,509 And even if we couldn't afford to sort it out here, 255 00:20:45,511 --> 00:20:47,278 We could bail it up and ship it 256 00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:48,646 In a shipping container over there 257 00:20:48,648 --> 00:20:50,748 And somebody over there would sort it out. 258 00:20:59,592 --> 00:21:01,592 Morawski: The united states was shipping over 50% 259 00:21:01,594 --> 00:21:03,127 Of its plastics to china. 260 00:21:03,129 --> 00:21:04,762 The situation was very similar in europe. 261 00:21:04,764 --> 00:21:06,697 We were just shipping it all to china. 262 00:21:06,699 --> 00:21:08,132 China will deal with it. 263 00:21:08,134 --> 00:21:10,468 And we built up these big recycling programs 264 00:21:10,470 --> 00:21:12,236 And everything was about recycle, recycle, 265 00:21:12,238 --> 00:21:15,439 Recycle, recycle is the solution to everything 266 00:21:15,441 --> 00:21:17,241 Because we had china there. 267 00:21:17,243 --> 00:21:19,043 So china has just said, "you know what? 268 00:21:19,045 --> 00:21:20,544 We're sick of being a dumping ground 269 00:21:20,546 --> 00:21:23,214 And we don't want this stuff introduced into our country." 270 00:21:35,662 --> 00:21:37,962 They're useless... plastics. 271 00:21:37,964 --> 00:21:41,065 Many of them are single-use containers, 272 00:21:41,067 --> 00:21:43,968 Low value plastics, films. 273 00:21:43,970 --> 00:21:46,904 So in general, we see this as a positive. 274 00:21:46,906 --> 00:21:52,343 This gives a chance to upgrade our recycling industry. 275 00:21:52,345 --> 00:21:56,347 The chinese waste ban has really been 276 00:21:56,349 --> 00:21:58,549 A shocking event for europe. 277 00:21:58,551 --> 00:22:02,219 People didn't know that their recycled plastic 278 00:22:02,221 --> 00:22:04,588 Was actually being shipped to china. 279 00:22:11,564 --> 00:22:13,464 The waste that used to be shipped elsewhere 280 00:22:13,466 --> 00:22:17,168 Is now here for us to deal with and we have to confront it, 281 00:22:17,170 --> 00:22:22,506 Because in europe, we really have plastic waste piling up. 282 00:22:22,508 --> 00:22:24,742 Morawski: I see the china thing as a reckoning 283 00:22:24,744 --> 00:22:27,178 Because it's all been this false market 284 00:22:27,180 --> 00:22:30,481 Where we've just been shipping stuff to china. 285 00:22:30,483 --> 00:22:34,151 Bourque: It starts backing up. It's not getting exported, 286 00:22:34,153 --> 00:22:36,153 So what's going to happen with it? 287 00:22:54,907 --> 00:23:01,512 When the ban happened in china, businessmen went to thailand, 288 00:23:01,514 --> 00:23:03,447 Vietnam, or other countries. 289 00:23:08,221 --> 00:23:10,654 Bourque: A year ago, china was taking 10 times 290 00:23:10,656 --> 00:23:12,857 The amount of plastic they're taking today. 291 00:23:15,228 --> 00:23:18,362 And that is a massive amount of plastic. 292 00:23:23,302 --> 00:23:25,569 So if you think we're just going to take it from china 293 00:23:25,571 --> 00:23:30,007 And ship it to thailand or indonesia or vietnam, 294 00:23:30,009 --> 00:23:34,478 They don't have that kind of capacity today. 295 00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:36,514 So whatever kind of infrastructure 296 00:23:36,516 --> 00:23:40,985 Is being developed has got to be pretty ad hoc. 297 00:23:40,987 --> 00:23:43,120 You know, could range from somebody's backyard 298 00:23:43,122 --> 00:23:49,794 To a partly covered warehouse, and that is very concerning. 299 00:23:58,571 --> 00:24:04,275 From u.S. It's texas. 300 00:24:04,277 --> 00:24:06,343 Yeah, it's from australia. 301 00:24:06,345 --> 00:24:11,449 It's from toronto. Toronto. 302 00:24:14,454 --> 00:24:17,855 These are nestlé from u.K. 303 00:24:17,857 --> 00:24:21,425 Yeah, this one from oregon, from oregon. 304 00:24:21,427 --> 00:24:27,364 From new zealand, dunkin' donut. 305 00:24:27,366 --> 00:24:30,968 Radok is unilever. Teavana. 306 00:24:37,310 --> 00:24:41,679 What do you think somebody is really going to do with this? 307 00:24:41,681 --> 00:24:48,919 It's all different colors. It's got film and plastic. 308 00:24:48,921 --> 00:24:52,790 You got seven different kinds of resin. 309 00:24:52,792 --> 00:24:58,596 This stuff's been printed on, so there's ink in the plastic. 310 00:24:58,598 --> 00:25:03,834 You know what... what are you really going to make with it? 311 00:25:03,836 --> 00:25:06,604 And they have to be able to tell the difference 312 00:25:06,606 --> 00:25:12,943 Between this clear plastic and this clear plastic, 313 00:25:12,945 --> 00:25:18,015 Which look the same to you and me, but they're not. 314 00:25:18,017 --> 00:25:20,651 And so, how do they do that? 315 00:25:20,653 --> 00:25:25,589 They have special tests. They can... they can hear it, 316 00:25:25,591 --> 00:25:29,360 Or they'll light it on fire and smell the smoke. 317 00:25:29,362 --> 00:25:31,402 That's got to be good for your health. 318 00:26:06,132 --> 00:26:07,598 Bourque: When you sort this stuff out, 319 00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:11,235 The next thing then is to take those sorted materials 320 00:26:11,237 --> 00:26:14,772 And chip it up into a little quarter-size flake, 321 00:26:14,774 --> 00:26:17,508 Is what they call it, and then wash it. 322 00:26:21,147 --> 00:26:23,447 Well, what's happening with all that wash water? 323 00:26:23,449 --> 00:26:26,450 Is that just getting dumped into somebody else's drinking water 324 00:26:26,452 --> 00:26:29,286 Or is it being dumped into an estuary 325 00:26:29,288 --> 00:26:34,191 And polluting the estuary with soaps and food and poisons? 326 00:26:39,298 --> 00:26:40,931 And what about when you melt the plastic? 327 00:26:40,933 --> 00:26:43,500 Because the next thing you do is you take that flake 328 00:26:43,502 --> 00:26:45,035 And you melt it down 329 00:26:45,037 --> 00:26:48,238 And extrude it out into these long spaghetti chains 330 00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:52,109 And then you chop those up into little pellets or nurdles. 331 00:26:54,447 --> 00:26:56,647 And when you melt it, a lot of these plastics 332 00:26:56,649 --> 00:27:00,084 Release toxic volatile organic compounds, vocs, 333 00:27:00,086 --> 00:27:02,453 That are not good to breathe. 334 00:27:05,791 --> 00:27:09,226 The problem is that there is no place for this stuff to go. 335 00:29:25,698 --> 00:29:28,799 The most difficult part of waste sorting is done 336 00:29:28,801 --> 00:29:30,901 By the waste picker who are mostly women, 337 00:29:30,903 --> 00:29:32,436 Mostly marginalized. 338 00:29:32,438 --> 00:29:35,806 And they also get the least benefit from the system. 339 00:29:37,543 --> 00:29:40,477 If they were not there, the entire recycling pyramid 340 00:29:40,479 --> 00:29:42,513 Would have collapsed. 341 00:29:44,717 --> 00:29:47,284 If we go back 16, 17 years, 342 00:29:47,286 --> 00:29:50,087 There was not so much plastic that was found. 343 00:29:50,089 --> 00:29:53,157 It was mostly metal, iron, aluminum. 344 00:29:53,159 --> 00:29:55,058 Now they are doing 345 00:29:55,060 --> 00:29:59,263 83 kind of separation within plastic itself. 346 00:30:46,212 --> 00:30:48,512 We had double digits in asia pacific, 347 00:30:48,514 --> 00:30:51,114 We have double digits in other parts of the world. 348 00:30:51,116 --> 00:30:53,317 But it's because you've got a growing economy 349 00:30:53,319 --> 00:30:54,818 And you've got a change in markets. 350 00:30:54,820 --> 00:30:57,855 People are moving from fresh foods 351 00:30:57,857 --> 00:31:00,090 That are not processed to packaged. 352 00:31:00,092 --> 00:31:04,127 Things like fast foods packaged food, processed foods, 353 00:31:04,129 --> 00:31:09,333 These are new to india because indians like to eat fresh food. 354 00:31:09,335 --> 00:31:12,703 India is a place where people naturally reuse things, 355 00:31:12,705 --> 00:31:16,707 Nothing was torn away. It is not a throwaway society 356 00:31:16,709 --> 00:31:20,377 Because it is not a consumerist society to begin with. 357 00:31:20,379 --> 00:31:24,147 That sense of thrift, that sense of carefulness, 358 00:31:24,149 --> 00:31:26,350 That respectful materials is going away, 359 00:31:26,352 --> 00:31:28,051 And that's a terrible loss. 360 00:31:30,189 --> 00:31:31,321 We do need plastics, 361 00:31:31,323 --> 00:31:34,691 But plastics can be used for high-tech things. 362 00:31:34,693 --> 00:31:37,327 Plastic holds the promise of a better world 363 00:31:37,329 --> 00:31:41,064 From the ambulance to the emergency room, 364 00:31:41,066 --> 00:31:43,166 Plastics make it possible. 365 00:31:45,070 --> 00:31:48,071 The industry likes to talk about all the advanced products 366 00:31:48,073 --> 00:31:50,841 And lifesaving devices the plastics contribute to, 367 00:31:50,843 --> 00:31:52,409 Which is true. 368 00:31:52,411 --> 00:31:54,678 From heart valves to helmets, 369 00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:58,448 Can you think of one material that does more? 370 00:31:58,450 --> 00:32:02,886 But what makes up the bulk of demand for plastic right now 371 00:32:02,888 --> 00:32:04,554 Is packaging. 372 00:32:04,556 --> 00:32:06,723 Pieces of plastic that will get used once 373 00:32:06,725 --> 00:32:08,892 And thrown away and never used again, 374 00:32:08,894 --> 00:32:12,729 And in most cases, never cleaned up. 375 00:32:12,731 --> 00:32:15,132 Shibu k n: The fast-moving consumer goods in india. 376 00:32:15,134 --> 00:32:18,402 Almost 100% are packed in one-time use plastics. 377 00:32:18,404 --> 00:32:21,872 For example, one rupee sachet for a shampoo, 378 00:32:21,874 --> 00:32:26,009 Or one rupee sachet with oil. 379 00:32:26,011 --> 00:32:29,313 They want them essentially to capture 380 00:32:29,315 --> 00:32:31,815 The poor sectors of the market, and to do that, 381 00:32:31,817 --> 00:32:34,584 They came up with sachets. 382 00:32:34,586 --> 00:32:37,354 Sachets are multi-layers of materials... 383 00:32:37,356 --> 00:32:40,157 Plastic, aluminum, or a bit of paper, 384 00:32:40,159 --> 00:32:43,260 It comes in small volume for a single use 385 00:32:43,262 --> 00:32:45,529 And is meant to be disposed right after. 386 00:32:46,765 --> 00:32:48,265 ♪ Protects my clothes better ♪ 387 00:32:48,267 --> 00:32:51,201 powerful bung will now sell you downy ♪ 388 00:32:51,203 --> 00:32:53,337 boom boom boom ♪ 389 00:32:54,907 --> 00:32:58,008 The population pyramid is so geared towards 390 00:32:58,010 --> 00:33:00,477 Consumerism in the future, and that must be exciting. 391 00:33:00,479 --> 00:33:02,612 I just wondered how high up the list 392 00:33:02,614 --> 00:33:04,948 Of emerging markets africa is for you. 393 00:33:04,950 --> 00:33:06,383 It's very high up. 394 00:33:06,385 --> 00:33:10,053 It's one of our growth opportunities in the future. 395 00:33:15,060 --> 00:33:18,195 Sharma: Our markets are just flooded with this. 396 00:33:21,767 --> 00:33:25,802 We already had an existing system, 397 00:33:25,804 --> 00:33:28,271 The previous traditional stores, 398 00:33:28,273 --> 00:33:32,075 They were a perfect example of alternate delivery system. 399 00:33:32,077 --> 00:33:36,546 It's everything still unpacked. 400 00:33:36,548 --> 00:33:42,386 I remember bringing glass to buy soy sauce or oil 401 00:33:42,388 --> 00:33:45,555 That we used for the day. But now you have soy sauce, 402 00:33:45,557 --> 00:33:47,891 You have oil that comes in pouches 403 00:33:47,893 --> 00:33:50,660 That are meant to be thrown right after. 404 00:33:52,865 --> 00:33:54,598 Shibu k n: When these global companies came in, 405 00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:56,266 We were happy to see that. 406 00:33:56,268 --> 00:33:59,236 Okay, we are also getting the same quality of life 407 00:33:59,238 --> 00:34:00,604 Enjoyed by the west. 408 00:34:00,606 --> 00:34:03,673 And now we realize that there is a double standard. 409 00:34:16,688 --> 00:34:19,656 Alvarés: Working in this global movement is allowing us 410 00:34:19,658 --> 00:34:21,658 To point out the companies in europe, 411 00:34:21,660 --> 00:34:23,760 When they have this green discord, 412 00:34:23,762 --> 00:34:28,098 And we can tell them this is maybe what you're doing here, 413 00:34:28,100 --> 00:34:29,900 But this is not what you're doing 414 00:34:29,902 --> 00:34:31,568 In other parts of the world. 415 00:34:31,570 --> 00:34:33,470 And if you want to be credible, 416 00:34:33,472 --> 00:34:36,673 You will have to align your actions 417 00:34:36,675 --> 00:34:40,977 Everywhere with what you're saying. 418 00:34:40,979 --> 00:34:43,680 So this is head and shoulders, body ninja, 419 00:34:43,682 --> 00:34:45,949 It's multi-layered, it's non-recyclable. 420 00:34:45,951 --> 00:34:49,553 And this is what we find on the shelves in belgium 421 00:34:49,555 --> 00:34:50,821 And in most of europe. 422 00:34:50,823 --> 00:34:53,890 So the same product, same brand, same company, 423 00:34:53,892 --> 00:34:56,860 Different format, recyclable bottle. 424 00:34:56,862 --> 00:34:59,663 The producer has paid a fee to cover 425 00:34:59,665 --> 00:35:02,132 Part of the waste collection and waste management costs. 426 00:35:02,134 --> 00:35:05,335 While here, you have absolutely nothing. 427 00:35:05,337 --> 00:35:06,903 It's not covered at all. 428 00:35:06,905 --> 00:35:08,805 So, yeah, in the very country 429 00:35:08,807 --> 00:35:11,675 Where they have to implement waste management 430 00:35:11,677 --> 00:35:14,511 And waste collection system and they need money 431 00:35:14,513 --> 00:35:16,980 And funding to build these infrastructures, 432 00:35:16,982 --> 00:35:18,682 The producers are not contributing 433 00:35:18,684 --> 00:35:21,017 To the end of life of this product, 434 00:35:21,019 --> 00:35:25,288 While in europe applying a double standard, they are. 435 00:35:25,290 --> 00:35:27,591 Ironically, asia has been identified 436 00:35:27,593 --> 00:35:31,161 As a key source of the problem of plastic pollution... 437 00:35:31,163 --> 00:35:32,762 The oceans... 438 00:35:32,764 --> 00:35:35,532 About 60% of plastic in the ocean 439 00:35:35,534 --> 00:35:39,736 Comes from five countries in southeast asia. 440 00:35:39,738 --> 00:35:42,172 Hernandez: When in fact the decisions are made in the boardrooms 441 00:35:42,174 --> 00:35:45,909 Of companies in the west. 442 00:35:45,911 --> 00:35:47,911 There's a real problem of blame 443 00:35:47,913 --> 00:35:50,247 When it comes to plastic pollution. 444 00:35:50,249 --> 00:35:52,849 When you have companies like unilever, 445 00:35:52,851 --> 00:35:54,451 Nestlé, and procter and gamble 446 00:35:54,453 --> 00:35:56,653 And all of these other multinationals 447 00:35:56,655 --> 00:35:58,255 Going into these markets 448 00:35:58,257 --> 00:36:03,994 Aggressively marketing single service products on populations 449 00:36:03,996 --> 00:36:06,196 That have no way of dealing with it. 450 00:36:06,198 --> 00:36:08,198 Maybe just not so long ago, 451 00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:11,935 Everything was packaged in natural products. 452 00:36:11,937 --> 00:36:14,004 Maybe they live on a tiny island 453 00:36:14,006 --> 00:36:17,307 That doesn't have a formalized system of waste collection. 454 00:36:17,309 --> 00:36:19,876 And then you're saying that they're at fault for this. 455 00:36:19,878 --> 00:36:21,244 And on top of that, 456 00:36:21,246 --> 00:36:26,550 We are shipping our waste there to be treated. 457 00:36:26,552 --> 00:36:29,252 This is absolutely a western problem 458 00:36:29,254 --> 00:36:32,322 That we have exported to other parts of the world, 459 00:36:32,324 --> 00:36:34,991 And now we have the cheek to say that they are the problem. 460 00:36:40,332 --> 00:36:42,599 Pampers? 461 00:36:42,601 --> 00:36:45,402 No washing, no mess, you just use them once. 462 00:36:45,404 --> 00:36:47,871 Pampers, procter and gamble discovery 463 00:36:47,873 --> 00:36:50,040 That makes diapers old fashioned. 464 00:36:50,042 --> 00:36:52,609 Just follow the directions and flush away. 465 00:38:12,257 --> 00:38:15,258 Carpenter: One of the biggest questions that we're facing is, 466 00:38:15,260 --> 00:38:19,996 "how do we get out of the fossil fuel economy?" 467 00:38:19,998 --> 00:38:22,165 I've heard some criticism 468 00:38:22,167 --> 00:38:24,501 That the concern about plastic pollution 469 00:38:24,503 --> 00:38:27,804 Is a distraction from the bigger problem of climate change. 470 00:38:29,941 --> 00:38:31,274 But my conclusion from doing this 471 00:38:31,276 --> 00:38:33,977 Reporting is it's all part of the same problem. 472 00:38:42,454 --> 00:38:46,056 Presently, we've discovered that the seven most produced 473 00:38:46,058 --> 00:38:50,160 And consumed types of plastic produce greenhouse gases. 474 00:38:50,162 --> 00:38:53,330 As plastic degrades in the environment, 475 00:38:53,332 --> 00:38:57,133 It would just be producing more and more gases with time. 476 00:38:59,504 --> 00:39:01,938 Alvarés: We are really making the connection 477 00:39:01,940 --> 00:39:03,707 Between the plastics issue 478 00:39:03,709 --> 00:39:06,276 And what's happening with the climate movement 479 00:39:06,278 --> 00:39:10,380 Because all of their efforts can be completely offset 480 00:39:10,382 --> 00:39:12,282 By the fact that the fossil fuel 481 00:39:12,284 --> 00:39:15,218 That we're not using anymore for transport and energy 482 00:39:15,220 --> 00:39:17,053 Is now being used to produce cheap plastics, 483 00:39:17,055 --> 00:39:18,855 And it's going to be burnt and is going to release 484 00:39:18,857 --> 00:39:20,390 Co2 in the atmosphere. 485 00:39:22,627 --> 00:39:24,027 Simon: If we don't do things right, 486 00:39:24,029 --> 00:39:27,130 All this plastic might end up in incinerators. 487 00:39:27,132 --> 00:39:29,699 And that's something we'll have to watch closely. 488 00:39:29,701 --> 00:39:31,301 It's a real danger. 489 00:39:44,816 --> 00:39:46,316 More and more community leaders, 490 00:39:46,318 --> 00:39:48,551 Entrepreneurs, and people like you and me 491 00:39:48,553 --> 00:39:50,987 Are starting to think about trash 492 00:39:50,989 --> 00:39:52,956 As a valuable energy resource. 493 00:39:52,958 --> 00:39:56,493 It's called energy recovery, and simply put, 494 00:39:56,495 --> 00:40:00,697 It's the process that turns solid waste into energy. 495 00:40:00,699 --> 00:40:04,834 Sounds good, maybe, 496 00:40:04,836 --> 00:40:09,272 But there's also a lot of toxic crap in there 497 00:40:09,274 --> 00:40:11,040 That you don't want in your air. 498 00:40:30,429 --> 00:40:32,462 The first thing we do when we get up is 499 00:40:32,464 --> 00:40:34,597 Look out of the window to see how much smoke 500 00:40:34,599 --> 00:40:36,199 Is coming out of that plant. 501 00:40:36,201 --> 00:40:39,836 It's like living next to a volcano, actually. 502 00:40:39,838 --> 00:40:41,371 You know, you never know. 503 00:40:41,373 --> 00:40:44,107 Sometimes large copious amounts of smoke 504 00:40:44,109 --> 00:40:45,742 Come out of these two chimneys. 505 00:40:45,744 --> 00:40:49,579 They can be seen for miles around. 506 00:40:49,581 --> 00:40:53,550 It burns 2,000 tons of unsegregated waste per day. 507 00:40:53,552 --> 00:40:56,619 A large component of that is just plastic. 508 00:41:00,392 --> 00:41:02,826 It's a cocktail of every kind of dangerous thing 509 00:41:02,828 --> 00:41:04,194 That you can think of... 510 00:41:04,196 --> 00:41:10,767 Dioxins, furans, lead, cadmium, mercury, all of that. 511 00:41:10,769 --> 00:41:13,470 They send samples of the flash to a lab in london, 512 00:41:13,472 --> 00:41:18,208 They said, "please evacuate immediately." 513 00:41:18,210 --> 00:41:19,843 That's what it said. 514 00:41:22,914 --> 00:41:26,049 Misra: We have seen a lot of changes since the incident at cayman. 515 00:41:26,051 --> 00:41:28,685 You find a lot of people who never ever had 516 00:41:28,687 --> 00:41:30,620 Any respiratory problem, 517 00:41:30,622 --> 00:41:33,823 They are coming with respiratory distress. 518 00:41:33,825 --> 00:41:35,959 Then there's severe dermatitis 519 00:41:35,961 --> 00:41:39,863 And a lot of skin rashes, which were not there before. 520 00:41:39,865 --> 00:41:43,766 These dioxins cause infertility and even long-term effects 521 00:41:43,768 --> 00:41:45,268 On our fetuses. 522 00:41:45,270 --> 00:41:47,737 They are hormone disrupters, 523 00:41:47,739 --> 00:41:51,107 And also, they are carcinogenic. 524 00:41:51,109 --> 00:41:53,390 And that is proven. There's nothing to be proved. 525 00:41:54,813 --> 00:41:58,748 It started so gradually that we did not notice the process. 526 00:41:58,750 --> 00:42:02,285 But now that we look back, it's so clear. 527 00:42:02,287 --> 00:42:04,854 I grew up here, so I have a lot of memories 528 00:42:04,856 --> 00:42:06,456 Attached to this place. 529 00:42:06,458 --> 00:42:09,459 Before I remember, we used to play outside, 530 00:42:09,461 --> 00:42:12,629 And now, kids stopped coming outside and playing. 531 00:42:12,631 --> 00:42:17,300 So that is how we were caged inside our own homes. 532 00:42:17,302 --> 00:42:18,868 When I went to the doctor, 533 00:42:18,870 --> 00:42:20,937 He told me it looks from your lungs 534 00:42:20,939 --> 00:42:24,107 That either you're a smoker or you work in the mines. 535 00:42:26,278 --> 00:42:29,646 Devraj: The plant projects itself as doing a great service 536 00:42:29,648 --> 00:42:32,315 To the community by getting rid of their garbage, 537 00:42:32,317 --> 00:42:34,317 But this is the wrong way to do it. 538 00:42:36,688 --> 00:42:38,454 The main thing that this incinerator does 539 00:42:38,456 --> 00:42:42,158 Is it reduces the volume of your garbage, 540 00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:45,328 So you're having a mountain of garbage, 541 00:42:45,330 --> 00:42:47,997 You have a hillock of fly ash and bottom ash, 542 00:42:47,999 --> 00:42:49,899 Which is very, very toxic. 543 00:42:52,571 --> 00:42:54,404 They don't want the recycling to happen. 544 00:42:54,406 --> 00:42:56,506 They chase away the waste pickers. 545 00:42:56,508 --> 00:43:00,310 They need that plastic, so they burn everything else. 546 00:43:00,312 --> 00:43:02,712 Plastic burns and burns very well 547 00:43:02,714 --> 00:43:05,315 Because it's made of petrochemicals. 548 00:43:05,317 --> 00:43:06,883 They want you to use more plastic 549 00:43:06,885 --> 00:43:08,952 Because that's what is their fuel. 550 00:43:13,658 --> 00:43:18,361 It's basically our trash monster that will just desperately eat 551 00:43:18,363 --> 00:43:20,196 As much plastic as it can, 552 00:43:20,198 --> 00:43:24,934 And not only will it be happy to get non-recyclable packaging, 553 00:43:24,936 --> 00:43:28,338 But all the plastic that's going for recycling currently 554 00:43:28,340 --> 00:43:31,874 Will essentially be institutionally diverted, 555 00:43:31,876 --> 00:43:34,243 Even if it's at the cost of the environment, 556 00:43:34,245 --> 00:43:37,647 Human development, and economic inclusion. 557 00:43:44,022 --> 00:43:46,189 Carpenter: Groups that have been fighting local struggles 558 00:43:46,191 --> 00:43:51,194 Against particular segments of the fossil fuel economy 559 00:43:51,196 --> 00:43:53,930 Are now linking together in this much broader movement 560 00:43:53,932 --> 00:43:57,567 That looks at the whole chain of damage 561 00:43:57,569 --> 00:44:02,505 From resource extraction to waste incinerators. 562 00:44:02,507 --> 00:44:06,209 These disparate struggles that seem unconnected... 563 00:44:06,211 --> 00:44:07,343 A neighborhood in the philippines 564 00:44:07,345 --> 00:44:09,679 That's awash in plastic trash, 565 00:44:09,681 --> 00:44:16,719 A pipeline in pennsylvania, a single refinery in texas... 566 00:44:16,721 --> 00:44:19,555 They're all part of this web of plastics infrastructure 567 00:44:19,557 --> 00:44:22,458 That is all working together to massively increase 568 00:44:22,460 --> 00:44:24,827 The amount of plastics out in the world. 569 00:44:31,703 --> 00:44:34,303 Bourque: Why is it that we're seeing so much more plastics 570 00:44:34,305 --> 00:44:35,465 Entering the environment? 571 00:44:37,042 --> 00:44:39,308 I just wanna say one word to you. 572 00:44:39,310 --> 00:44:42,278 Just one word... 573 00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:43,980 Fracking. 574 00:44:43,982 --> 00:44:47,750 It's making natural gas cheaper than it's ever been. 575 00:44:47,752 --> 00:44:50,853 We're talking about double digit gains in businesses 576 00:44:50,855 --> 00:44:53,723 That I didn't think had even single-digit growth. 577 00:44:53,725 --> 00:44:55,258 How are you putting up these numbers? 578 00:44:55,260 --> 00:44:57,193 Well, we have a very focused team, jim. 579 00:44:57,195 --> 00:45:00,129 We also built a lot of assets on the u.S. Gulf coast 580 00:45:00,131 --> 00:45:02,198 To take advantage of shale gas. 581 00:45:14,979 --> 00:45:18,581 Bush: The energy policy act of 2005, provides incentives 582 00:45:18,583 --> 00:45:23,086 For oil refineries to expand their capacity. 583 00:45:23,088 --> 00:45:24,520 The bill includes tax incentives 584 00:45:24,522 --> 00:45:28,691 To encourage new construction of natural gas pipelines. 585 00:45:28,693 --> 00:45:30,927 The united states, north america sits on 586 00:45:30,929 --> 00:45:34,097 A very large hydrocarbon resource base. 587 00:45:34,099 --> 00:45:37,667 When we see the fact that we have low-priced natural gas, 588 00:45:37,669 --> 00:45:40,970 Which we think will be around for a long time, 589 00:45:40,972 --> 00:45:43,673 That is leading to a flood of new investments. 590 00:45:45,610 --> 00:45:48,311 If we have availability of cheap fossil fuel, 591 00:45:48,313 --> 00:45:51,147 We're going to have availability of dirty chemicals 592 00:45:51,149 --> 00:45:52,749 And of cheap plastics. 593 00:45:52,751 --> 00:45:55,585 Maximizing the value of all the molecules 594 00:45:55,587 --> 00:45:56,853 From a barrel crude oil, 595 00:45:56,855 --> 00:45:58,721 That's been foundational for how we've approached 596 00:45:58,723 --> 00:46:01,157 The chemical business for decades. 597 00:46:02,494 --> 00:46:04,293 And this is where the show 598 00:46:04,295 --> 00:46:09,332 In the totals, you know, comes from... comes from petrol, 599 00:46:09,334 --> 00:46:10,466 Oil and gas. 600 00:46:10,468 --> 00:46:14,137 - It's plastic. - Is that a freaking straw? 601 00:46:14,139 --> 00:46:15,938 I'm so sorry, baby. 602 00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:31,854 Villa: Watt: I think people don't necessarily think about 603 00:46:31,856 --> 00:46:37,727 What plastics are made of, where plastics come from, 604 00:46:37,729 --> 00:46:40,863 Other than on the shelf of like a grocery store 605 00:46:40,865 --> 00:46:42,832 Or some sort of a market. 606 00:46:42,834 --> 00:46:45,768 But the reality is that the chemicals that are needed 607 00:46:45,770 --> 00:46:50,072 To create plastics come from the shale formations 608 00:46:50,074 --> 00:46:53,843 From these oil and gas pockets in the rock. 609 00:46:53,845 --> 00:46:56,045 You can't talk about one without the other. 610 00:47:03,488 --> 00:47:04,987 In these oil and gas pockets, 611 00:47:04,989 --> 00:47:09,158 You also have chemicals like benzene and toulene 612 00:47:09,160 --> 00:47:11,227 And ethyl benzene and xylene 613 00:47:11,229 --> 00:47:14,597 That are all extremely harmful for your health. 614 00:47:17,035 --> 00:47:20,002 Plastics doesn't just cause pollution in the ocean 615 00:47:20,004 --> 00:47:23,239 Or on the ground, it's also causing pollution 616 00:47:23,241 --> 00:47:26,042 Where it's coming from at the point of extraction. 617 00:47:35,687 --> 00:47:39,622 I work with community members that are living 500 feet 618 00:47:39,624 --> 00:47:44,727 From a facility that's the size of a football field. 619 00:47:44,729 --> 00:47:48,030 Now some of the residents depend on medication 620 00:47:48,032 --> 00:47:51,968 To get through the day because their headaches are so bad, 621 00:47:51,970 --> 00:47:54,303 Or they have chronic respiratory issues 622 00:47:54,305 --> 00:47:56,105 And so they can't breathe. 623 00:47:58,243 --> 00:48:01,077 Their lives were dramatically changed 624 00:48:01,079 --> 00:48:03,779 Over a period of five or six years. 625 00:48:08,820 --> 00:48:10,786 Man: This is our dream home. 626 00:48:10,788 --> 00:48:13,256 We thought we were coming into a great area 627 00:48:13,258 --> 00:48:16,058 To where we could live out our years, 628 00:48:16,060 --> 00:48:19,462 And then this stuff started turning up. 629 00:48:19,464 --> 00:48:20,696 You're not showing my face, are you? 630 00:48:20,698 --> 00:48:23,165 - No. - Okay. 631 00:48:26,738 --> 00:48:32,608 The pollution has gotten way out of hand. 632 00:48:32,610 --> 00:48:34,610 Everybody has to drink bottled water. 633 00:48:34,612 --> 00:48:37,146 There's a water well on my place, 634 00:48:37,148 --> 00:48:38,581 We don't we don't drink the water because 635 00:48:38,583 --> 00:48:40,703 We know damn well we can't use that water. 636 00:48:42,353 --> 00:48:44,787 We don't know what's coming out of that flare, 637 00:48:44,789 --> 00:48:46,689 And they won't tell us. 638 00:48:46,691 --> 00:48:49,125 You know, I think that these oil companies are... 639 00:48:49,127 --> 00:48:51,047 They think they're above the law. 640 00:48:55,533 --> 00:48:57,700 Carpenter: When we talk about a community like karnes county, 641 00:48:57,702 --> 00:49:02,104 We're talking about the effects of extracting for the chemicals 642 00:49:02,106 --> 00:49:04,006 That we need to make plastics. 643 00:49:18,289 --> 00:49:21,424 Pompeo: I spent a fair amount of time in the oil and gas industry. 644 00:49:21,426 --> 00:49:25,294 My time as secretary of state isn't that far removed 645 00:49:25,296 --> 00:49:27,630 From what I did running that small company. 646 00:49:27,632 --> 00:49:30,166 New drilling technology and greater energy output 647 00:49:30,168 --> 00:49:34,770 Are transforming american life and lives all around the world. 648 00:49:34,772 --> 00:49:37,673 It took our shale producers and risk takers 649 00:49:37,675 --> 00:49:40,309 And it took congress lifting the oil export ban in 2015, 650 00:49:40,311 --> 00:49:41,777 Which I voted for. 651 00:49:41,779 --> 00:49:44,947 You should all see me as I walk out and say thanks. 652 00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:11,474 Carpenter: I think the piece of reporting that surprised me 653 00:50:11,476 --> 00:50:14,377 The most for this story was learning about 654 00:50:14,379 --> 00:50:15,745 The scale of what's planned 655 00:50:15,747 --> 00:50:19,582 For the upper ohio river valley, so spanning pennsylvania, 656 00:50:19,584 --> 00:50:22,585 Ohio, west virginia. 657 00:50:22,587 --> 00:50:24,053 They're really talking about 658 00:50:24,055 --> 00:50:25,855 A brand new petrochemical corridor, 659 00:50:25,857 --> 00:50:28,958 Which is unprecedented in that area. 660 00:50:38,970 --> 00:50:43,205 Come here. Get over here. Get over here. 661 00:50:43,207 --> 00:50:46,208 My name is elise gerhart. I'm 31 years old. 662 00:50:46,210 --> 00:50:47,877 I live in huntington, pennsylvania. 663 00:50:47,879 --> 00:50:50,346 I was born here, raised here. 664 00:50:53,785 --> 00:50:56,919 My mom called me to tell me happy birthday. 665 00:50:56,921 --> 00:51:00,356 And then she informed me that there was a company 666 00:51:00,358 --> 00:51:02,458 Who wanted to build a pipeline 667 00:51:02,460 --> 00:51:05,961 Through this property here where I grew up. 668 00:51:08,132 --> 00:51:10,199 So the mariner east project, 669 00:51:10,201 --> 00:51:14,437 It's a project built to transport natural gas liquids 670 00:51:14,439 --> 00:51:18,407 To an industrial complex near philadelphia. 671 00:51:18,409 --> 00:51:20,342 Those would go from the port there, 672 00:51:20,344 --> 00:51:22,211 All the way across the atlantic 673 00:51:22,213 --> 00:51:26,782 To a facility in scotland, so that they can make plastic. 674 00:51:29,353 --> 00:51:32,354 The company puts out all kinds of propaganda, 675 00:51:32,356 --> 00:51:35,224 Saying that the project has something to do 676 00:51:35,226 --> 00:51:38,160 With american energy independence, 677 00:51:38,162 --> 00:51:39,361 That it has to do with 678 00:51:39,363 --> 00:51:43,099 People heating their homes during the winter. 679 00:51:43,101 --> 00:51:45,634 And none of that is true. 680 00:51:45,636 --> 00:51:50,239 America relies on energy. We get it to you safely. 681 00:51:50,241 --> 00:51:52,608 We are sunoco pipeline. 682 00:51:54,612 --> 00:51:56,078 Elise: It makes me really angry 683 00:51:56,080 --> 00:51:59,248 Because as soon as I started doing research on this project, 684 00:51:59,250 --> 00:52:02,184 It was very clear what the intent was. 685 00:52:02,186 --> 00:52:03,619 You know, it's publicly available, 686 00:52:03,621 --> 00:52:08,991 And yet, we have these judges saying that those companies 687 00:52:08,993 --> 00:52:14,263 Can take our property for their own private use to make plastic. 688 00:52:21,139 --> 00:52:24,640 I've only been paying attention to pipelines for a couple years 689 00:52:24,642 --> 00:52:27,409 And it seems to happen every couple of months. 690 00:52:27,411 --> 00:52:29,612 There's like an enormous pipeline explosion, 691 00:52:29,614 --> 00:52:31,580 Like a major incident. 692 00:52:38,556 --> 00:52:40,623 I mean, people's houses burning down, 693 00:52:40,625 --> 00:52:43,125 People being severely injured 694 00:52:43,127 --> 00:52:45,327 A gas line outside columbus, ohio, 695 00:52:45,329 --> 00:52:46,962 Explodes, destroying two homes... 696 00:52:46,964 --> 00:52:48,264 Man: Did you see that explode? 697 00:52:48,266 --> 00:52:49,532 Breaking news... 698 00:52:49,534 --> 00:52:52,268 Firefighters are racing to contain a deadly gas 699 00:52:52,270 --> 00:52:53,903 Explosion in kentucky. 700 00:52:53,905 --> 00:52:56,672 Flames spreading to homes, forcing evacuations. 701 00:52:58,176 --> 00:53:00,409 Elise: I don't know what it's going to feel like to try 702 00:53:00,411 --> 00:53:05,948 And live here every day knowing that a leak or explosion 703 00:53:05,950 --> 00:53:08,217 Could happen at any time with no warning 704 00:53:08,219 --> 00:53:10,119 Because you can't see it, you can't smell it, 705 00:53:10,121 --> 00:53:12,354 You don't know until it's too late. 706 00:53:15,193 --> 00:53:17,459 Ellen sue: If you look at the projected blast zone area... 707 00:53:17,461 --> 00:53:19,028 And I have to laugh 708 00:53:19,030 --> 00:53:22,064 Because sunoco doesn't refer to it as a blast zone area, 709 00:53:22,066 --> 00:53:27,203 It's a buffer area... Is roughly 1,000 feet 710 00:53:27,205 --> 00:53:30,773 On either side of the pipeline. 711 00:53:30,775 --> 00:53:34,977 So from where the pipeline is in relationship to our house, 712 00:53:34,979 --> 00:53:37,846 We're well within the blast zone area. 713 00:53:44,989 --> 00:53:48,691 Elise: So myself and a couple other people 714 00:53:48,693 --> 00:53:53,128 Climbed into some of the trees and occupy them 715 00:53:53,130 --> 00:53:56,498 So that they couldn't get them down. 716 00:53:56,500 --> 00:53:59,802 And we had lots of people just start coming through 717 00:53:59,804 --> 00:54:01,904 Who wanted to help out. 718 00:54:03,908 --> 00:54:05,574 But they try to intimidate people. 719 00:54:05,576 --> 00:54:07,409 I was followed to work. 720 00:54:07,411 --> 00:54:10,212 They flew drones up around the house 721 00:54:10,214 --> 00:54:12,648 Just looking at everything. 722 00:54:14,885 --> 00:54:18,120 Energy transfer partners paid someone to create 723 00:54:18,122 --> 00:54:21,890 This fake facebook page saying that I was an eco terrorist 724 00:54:21,892 --> 00:54:26,595 Trying to bring violence into my community 725 00:54:26,597 --> 00:54:30,165 And that I need to be stopped. 726 00:54:30,167 --> 00:54:32,568 They put my partner on there, 727 00:54:32,570 --> 00:54:35,037 They put friends of ours on there. 728 00:54:35,039 --> 00:54:39,241 They put our vehicles on there, posted our address. 729 00:54:39,243 --> 00:54:42,144 So I had people messaging us, 730 00:54:42,146 --> 00:54:46,849 Threatening to rape us, to kill us. 731 00:54:46,851 --> 00:54:50,185 I'm not that strong that that's not going to affect me. 732 00:54:52,823 --> 00:54:54,456 They've got endless resources. 733 00:54:54,458 --> 00:54:56,692 You know, we have to live our lives, 734 00:54:56,694 --> 00:54:59,595 Like I had to go to work. 735 00:54:59,597 --> 00:55:03,766 So they came, they cut down the trees. 736 00:55:07,338 --> 00:55:10,472 Even if you can talk to people and explain to them 737 00:55:10,474 --> 00:55:12,975 That this isn't carrying home heating fuel, 738 00:55:12,977 --> 00:55:15,844 It's not carrying gasoline for your car. 739 00:55:15,846 --> 00:55:17,413 Then people start bringing in these arguments 740 00:55:17,415 --> 00:55:19,782 About plastic and about how plastic 741 00:55:19,784 --> 00:55:22,651 Is everywhere in our everyday lives, 742 00:55:22,653 --> 00:55:25,554 So we must need it. 743 00:55:25,556 --> 00:55:27,523 I think people have a hard time 744 00:55:27,525 --> 00:55:31,527 Picturing what life would be like without plastic, 745 00:55:31,529 --> 00:55:34,697 And that's where I think more people are actually duped. 746 00:55:43,574 --> 00:55:46,208 Arellano: Houston is the home of the largest petrochemical complex 747 00:55:46,210 --> 00:55:48,777 In the nation. 748 00:55:48,779 --> 00:55:51,380 This is what plastic smells like. 749 00:55:51,382 --> 00:55:53,649 This is what plastic feels like. 750 00:55:53,651 --> 00:55:58,821 This is what plastic looks like from our end. 751 00:56:09,633 --> 00:56:14,737 Some of the daily emissions include benzene, styrene, 752 00:56:14,739 --> 00:56:19,274 1,3-butadiene, hydrogen sulfide, hydrogen cyanide. 753 00:56:21,545 --> 00:56:24,246 What we have tried to put in place here is again, 754 00:56:24,248 --> 00:56:29,952 Is a model that will ensure that epa prioritizes chemicals. 755 00:56:29,954 --> 00:56:32,388 Arellano: Most of these chemicals are not monitored 756 00:56:32,390 --> 00:56:33,789 And there are more chemicals 757 00:56:33,791 --> 00:56:38,394 That are delisted from epa's watchlist than they are added. 758 00:56:41,098 --> 00:56:43,565 I want to thank administrator curry 759 00:56:43,567 --> 00:56:45,134 From the epa, 760 00:56:45,136 --> 00:56:48,704 All the great folks who have helped us to clear the way 761 00:56:48,706 --> 00:56:49,972 So that exxon mobil 762 00:56:49,974 --> 00:56:53,742 Can make this multi-billion dollar investment. 763 00:56:55,279 --> 00:56:59,348 It's not uncommon to talk to folks in the community 764 00:56:59,350 --> 00:57:03,786 And have multiple stories of childhood leukemia, 765 00:57:03,788 --> 00:57:07,689 Brain cancer, low birth weights, or sterility, 766 00:57:07,691 --> 00:57:09,825 Lack of motor skills, developmental issues, 767 00:57:09,827 --> 00:57:12,361 Speech impediments. 768 00:57:12,363 --> 00:57:16,465 We have reduced our air emissions at this site 769 00:57:16,467 --> 00:57:22,204 By about 50%. I have never seen a project 770 00:57:22,206 --> 00:57:27,976 With a better economic and environmental story. 771 00:57:27,978 --> 00:57:31,280 Arellano: Every time epa's watchlist shrinks, 772 00:57:31,282 --> 00:57:33,415 Air quality gets better. Why? 773 00:57:33,417 --> 00:57:35,451 Because it's not being monitored. 774 00:57:50,701 --> 00:57:53,268 Both of my parents are immigrants. 775 00:57:53,270 --> 00:57:57,372 They left mexico to make our lives better. 776 00:57:57,374 --> 00:58:02,377 Their parents left the rural parts of mexico 777 00:58:02,379 --> 00:58:07,916 To go into the cities because life in rural mexico 778 00:58:07,918 --> 00:58:13,155 Was difficult because oil companies were going in... 779 00:58:20,264 --> 00:58:22,364 That story isn't done. 780 00:58:22,366 --> 00:58:24,233 There's another family that's living with that, 781 00:58:24,235 --> 00:58:27,402 And there's another family that's living next to a refinery 782 00:58:27,404 --> 00:58:29,872 And there is another family that's struggling. 783 00:58:38,015 --> 00:58:43,018 It takes outside organizations to come in to inform residents 784 00:58:43,020 --> 00:58:46,355 About what they are living with on a daily basis. 785 00:58:50,160 --> 00:58:54,696 So we are in the east end. It is a cultural hub 786 00:58:54,698 --> 00:58:56,698 For everything mexican. 787 00:58:56,700 --> 00:58:59,568 You have the art, you have the food. 788 00:58:59,570 --> 00:59:02,204 It's a place brimming with culture. 789 00:59:02,206 --> 00:59:04,439 It's a beautiful place. 790 00:59:04,441 --> 00:59:07,175 And we are down the street from a valero plant. 791 00:59:07,177 --> 00:59:12,447 That's what there is a lot of here, a lot of plants. 792 00:59:12,449 --> 00:59:14,616 I think the farthest that I've ever lived from a planet 793 00:59:14,618 --> 00:59:17,119 Has been 2 1/2 miles. 794 00:59:25,863 --> 00:59:29,431 My friends are having kids and it's, hey, you know, 795 00:59:29,433 --> 00:59:34,403 So and so's kid has cancer, so and so's kid has leukemia. 796 00:59:34,405 --> 00:59:37,439 And it's sad that that's our new normal. 797 01:00:04,668 --> 01:00:08,036 I'm just going to start running it through here. 798 01:00:08,038 --> 01:00:11,473 Okay, I'm bringing it in. Just see what we got. 799 01:00:11,475 --> 01:00:15,510 Oh, god. Yeah. There's all kinds of pellets. 800 01:00:15,512 --> 01:00:21,116 Diane, you want this? - Yeah, we'll take a sample. 801 01:00:21,118 --> 01:00:25,287 We've found fish with pellets in their gullets. 802 01:00:25,289 --> 01:00:28,457 We've had oystermen who say they... 803 01:00:28,459 --> 01:00:30,359 When they're shucking open an oyster, 804 01:00:30,361 --> 01:00:33,161 They're finding pellets inside it. 805 01:00:37,167 --> 01:00:39,901 On the bay, you got from formosa plastic, 806 01:00:39,903 --> 01:00:43,939 We got invisto, we got bp, we got dupont, 807 01:00:43,941 --> 01:00:48,076 We've got dow chemical, you add all of that up, 808 01:00:48,078 --> 01:00:52,280 Easily, you can get 50 million gallons 809 01:00:52,282 --> 01:00:58,120 A day of toxins being discharged into estuaries. 810 01:01:02,326 --> 01:01:06,228 Hamrick: I worked 25 years at the plant as a supervisor, 811 01:01:06,230 --> 01:01:08,764 But I had to get out of there 812 01:01:08,766 --> 01:01:11,266 Because I got tired of the bull crap, lying for 'em 813 01:01:11,268 --> 01:01:13,035 Because that's all you do out there at that plant 814 01:01:13,037 --> 01:01:14,803 Is lie. 815 01:01:14,805 --> 01:01:17,939 And, you know, nobody out there can speak. 816 01:01:17,941 --> 01:01:19,941 They'll fire you right on the spot. 817 01:01:26,884 --> 01:01:31,053 Wilson: You can pull anything up and find pellets. 818 01:01:31,055 --> 01:01:32,421 See all the pellets? 819 01:01:32,423 --> 01:01:35,524 It's covered in pellets. 820 01:01:35,526 --> 01:01:37,793 You look down there, there's a harbor down there. 821 01:01:37,795 --> 01:01:39,428 There's no fish houses anymore. 822 01:01:39,430 --> 01:01:44,666 There's no shrimpers. You gotta do something. 823 01:01:44,668 --> 01:01:49,271 So we just started sampling. 824 01:01:49,273 --> 01:01:52,040 And eventually, we filed the suit. 825 01:01:55,679 --> 01:01:59,514 When I first started, I had a helicopter land 826 01:01:59,516 --> 01:02:03,985 In my front yard, shot and killed the dog. 827 01:02:03,987 --> 01:02:10,859 Shot at the house, and then my shrimp boat was sabotaged. 828 01:02:10,861 --> 01:02:13,562 So, they did a few things. 829 01:02:24,441 --> 01:02:29,044 I don't think my story is unique at all. 830 01:02:29,046 --> 01:02:33,715 I think there are thousands in little rural communities 831 01:02:33,717 --> 01:02:35,684 Where the company has a heavy hand, 832 01:02:35,686 --> 01:02:38,787 Especially along the gulf coast. 833 01:02:45,462 --> 01:02:47,696 Muffett: What's going on here in houston highlights 834 01:02:47,698 --> 01:02:51,666 Not only the scale of the problem, but its immediacy, 835 01:02:51,668 --> 01:02:54,035 The oil and gas industry, 836 01:02:54,037 --> 01:02:55,804 The american petroleum institute, 837 01:02:55,806 --> 01:02:59,641 The american chemistry council, they see the shale gas boom 838 01:02:59,643 --> 01:03:03,845 As a renaissance for plastics and petrochemicals in the u.S. 839 01:03:03,847 --> 01:03:07,716 Exxonmobil estimates that the global demand for chemicals 840 01:03:07,718 --> 01:03:10,919 Will double within the next 20 years. 841 01:03:10,921 --> 01:03:14,890 That's more than the forecast for energy and gdp growth 842 01:03:14,892 --> 01:03:17,159 Over the same period. 843 01:03:17,161 --> 01:03:19,161 They're doubling down on plastics. 844 01:03:19,163 --> 01:03:21,763 I think they're worried that we're going to stop burning 845 01:03:21,765 --> 01:03:24,432 So much fossil fuel. 846 01:03:24,434 --> 01:03:27,636 I hope that's their worry and I hope they're right. 847 01:03:27,638 --> 01:03:31,506 But I think they see plastic as a way to hedge their bet. 848 01:03:31,508 --> 01:03:34,810 Our expectation is global fuel's demand growth 849 01:03:34,812 --> 01:03:36,978 Will actually start to decline, 850 01:03:36,980 --> 01:03:40,448 And so, where would you anticipate additional growth 851 01:03:40,450 --> 01:03:42,784 In one place is petrochemical market. 852 01:03:42,786 --> 01:03:45,020 Plastics and other petrochemicals present 853 01:03:45,022 --> 01:03:48,056 An opportunity for these big integrated oil majors 854 01:03:48,058 --> 01:03:50,525 To keep up demand. 855 01:03:50,527 --> 01:03:53,862 And so we're really seeing this trend towards investment 856 01:03:53,864 --> 01:03:55,797 In the petrochemical space. 857 01:03:58,235 --> 01:03:59,534 During the course of these meetings, 858 01:03:59,536 --> 01:04:02,971 President trump and members of his cabinet agreed 859 01:04:02,973 --> 01:04:06,675 The u.S.-Saudi partnership should be taken to new heights. 860 01:04:22,025 --> 01:04:24,593 Muffett: The latest estimate from the american chemistry council 861 01:04:24,595 --> 01:04:26,828 Is that $194 billion 862 01:04:26,830 --> 01:04:30,465 Will be invested in the u.S. Into 325 new 863 01:04:30,467 --> 01:04:33,568 Or expanded facilities for petrochemicals, 864 01:04:33,570 --> 01:04:35,203 Primarily for plastics 865 01:04:35,205 --> 01:04:39,674 Between now and 2025. That's a remarkable expansion. 866 01:04:39,676 --> 01:04:42,544 We're already producing more plastics in the united states 867 01:04:42,546 --> 01:04:43,879 Than we can use. 868 01:04:43,881 --> 01:04:46,848 So the question is, "where is that plastic going?" 869 01:04:46,850 --> 01:04:49,551 It's flowing to asia. It's flowing to europe. 870 01:04:49,553 --> 01:04:52,254 It's flowing into every new product streams. 871 01:04:52,256 --> 01:04:54,389 This highlights a really fundamental truth 872 01:04:54,391 --> 01:04:57,559 About the plastics crisis and about plastics as a product. 873 01:04:57,561 --> 01:05:01,396 To a far greater extent than in any other product chain, 874 01:05:01,398 --> 01:05:04,666 Plastics are driven not by the demand for them, 875 01:05:04,668 --> 01:05:06,301 But by the supply. 876 01:05:09,473 --> 01:05:11,273 This is the story of plastics. 877 01:05:11,275 --> 01:05:14,309 It is fossil fuels finding a new form 878 01:05:14,311 --> 01:05:16,978 And finding a new place to flow through the economy. 879 01:05:20,984 --> 01:05:23,585 This is a crisis that is accelerating literally 880 01:05:23,587 --> 01:05:26,421 By the day as we speak. 881 01:05:26,423 --> 01:05:28,223 Exxon opens a new plant here. 882 01:05:28,225 --> 01:05:30,191 Chevron builds a new plant there. 883 01:05:30,193 --> 01:05:32,294 Total builds yet another. 884 01:05:39,703 --> 01:05:42,704 We're seeing the same thing happened in the u.S. East coast, 885 01:05:42,706 --> 01:05:44,673 We're seeing the same thing happen in europe, 886 01:05:44,675 --> 01:05:46,808 In the middle east, in china, 887 01:05:46,810 --> 01:05:49,811 This buildout is going on and it's going on now. 888 01:05:56,019 --> 01:05:57,953 Once these plants are built, 889 01:05:57,955 --> 01:06:01,489 The debt to build them will already have been incurred, 890 01:06:01,491 --> 01:06:05,493 And they will squeeze every last ounce of plastic film 891 01:06:05,495 --> 01:06:08,697 And plastic packaging out of those plants 892 01:06:08,699 --> 01:06:10,799 Until they crumble to dust. 893 01:06:26,683 --> 01:06:28,483 We're back with an alarming new report 894 01:06:28,485 --> 01:06:29,951 That came out this past week 895 01:06:29,953 --> 01:06:31,619 On the state of the world's oceans, 896 01:06:31,621 --> 01:06:35,023 Specifically the finding that they contain far more plastic 897 01:06:35,025 --> 01:06:36,691 Than scientists had first thought. 898 01:06:36,693 --> 01:06:39,995 Carpenter: The surge of attention to plastic pollution 899 01:06:39,997 --> 01:06:42,197 Is pretty striking. 900 01:06:42,199 --> 01:06:43,798 Searching for a fish, 901 01:06:43,800 --> 01:06:47,035 But finding an ocean of plastic trash, 902 01:06:47,037 --> 01:06:49,738 Woglom: About 8 million metric tons go into the ocean every year. 903 01:06:49,740 --> 01:06:52,440 That's the equivalent of one city garbage truck 904 01:06:52,442 --> 01:06:54,409 Dumping a load of plastic into the ocean 905 01:06:54,411 --> 01:06:56,778 Every minute of every day. 906 01:06:56,780 --> 01:06:59,581 Celebrities urging people to give up using things 907 01:06:59,583 --> 01:07:01,750 Like plastic straws and cups. 908 01:07:01,752 --> 01:07:04,753 By 2050, there will be more plastic waste 909 01:07:04,755 --> 01:07:06,955 In the world's oceans than fish. 910 01:07:06,957 --> 01:07:10,458 These pictures after its death show the 80 plastic bags 911 01:07:10,460 --> 01:07:11,580 Found inside the whale. 912 01:07:16,600 --> 01:07:20,068 It's getting into the food that we end up eating. 913 01:07:20,070 --> 01:07:23,071 The polyester fibers that you take into your lungs, 914 01:07:23,073 --> 01:07:26,975 They're small enough to cross the blood brain barrier. 915 01:07:26,977 --> 01:07:30,045 The five gyres, giant swirling bodies of water 916 01:07:30,047 --> 01:07:32,514 Where plastic accumulates. 917 01:07:32,516 --> 01:07:34,315 When I mention plastic to younger people, 918 01:07:34,317 --> 01:07:37,685 They say, "plastic is that giant island 919 01:07:37,687 --> 01:07:40,955 That's the size of antarctica in an ocean, 920 01:07:40,957 --> 01:07:43,425 And that's what plastic did, it wrecked the environment." 921 01:07:43,427 --> 01:07:46,361 But the world is still going toward plastic. 922 01:07:46,363 --> 01:07:48,797 We do have a plastic waste problem. 923 01:07:48,799 --> 01:07:51,432 And at this point in time, I've never seen the industry 924 01:07:51,434 --> 01:07:53,668 More aligned about tackling that problem. 925 01:07:53,670 --> 01:07:54,903 We've been working... 926 01:07:54,905 --> 01:07:56,571 Mafira: They're mostly making these statements 927 01:07:56,573 --> 01:07:58,840 That are quite normative. 928 01:07:58,842 --> 01:08:01,743 "we'll look into this. We're committed." 929 01:08:06,683 --> 01:08:09,217 The covestro industry has products and processes 930 01:08:09,219 --> 01:08:12,887 That can help address these sustainability issues. 931 01:08:12,889 --> 01:08:14,823 We believe in sustainable practices 932 01:08:14,825 --> 01:08:18,259 And sustainable business growth. 933 01:08:18,261 --> 01:08:23,364 Mafira: But that hasn't translated into what the step-by-step plan is. 934 01:08:26,169 --> 01:08:28,670 Graham van't hoff, who's the executive vice president 935 01:08:28,672 --> 01:08:31,372 Of shell's chemical division wrote... 936 01:08:35,545 --> 01:08:36,678 And then he adds... 937 01:08:42,953 --> 01:08:46,354 I can't speculate about what the executives 938 01:08:46,356 --> 01:08:48,156 At petrochemical companies actually believe, 939 01:08:48,158 --> 01:08:50,391 But it's certainly true that in their communications 940 01:08:50,393 --> 01:08:54,462 And their actions, most of them indicate that, 941 01:08:54,464 --> 01:08:56,931 While they might generously offer 942 01:08:56,933 --> 01:08:59,134 To help with the cleanup problem, 943 01:08:59,136 --> 01:09:01,469 There's nothing wrong with the product 944 01:09:01,471 --> 01:09:04,239 Or with the companies that are making the product. 945 01:09:04,241 --> 01:09:07,909 The fault lies with the consumers and with countries 946 01:09:07,911 --> 01:09:11,746 That have inadequate waste recycling infrastructure. 947 01:09:11,748 --> 01:09:14,015 I think everyone agrees that plastic waste 948 01:09:14,017 --> 01:09:16,518 Does not belong in the ocean or the environment. 949 01:09:16,520 --> 01:09:18,853 So I'm very happy to announce today 950 01:09:18,855 --> 01:09:21,289 The formation of the "alliance to end plastic waste." 951 01:09:21,291 --> 01:09:25,527 This can bring together companies that make plastic 952 01:09:25,529 --> 01:09:28,730 And those that handle plastic after the consumer use. 953 01:09:28,732 --> 01:09:31,533 We're ready to invest over $1.5 billion 954 01:09:31,535 --> 01:09:32,901 To identify projects 955 01:09:32,903 --> 01:09:35,904 And fund projects to really get at solving solutions. 956 01:09:37,407 --> 01:09:40,909 Carpenter: I think if you look at some of the industry-backed plans, 957 01:09:40,911 --> 01:09:43,044 The alliance to end plastic waste, 958 01:09:43,046 --> 01:09:45,513 They want to put significant investment into recycling 959 01:09:45,515 --> 01:09:47,949 And waste collection infrastructure, 960 01:09:47,951 --> 01:09:50,952 And that's great where it happens. 961 01:09:50,954 --> 01:09:53,354 But that's not going to reach everywhere. 962 01:09:53,356 --> 01:09:55,924 It's definitely not on the same scale 963 01:09:55,926 --> 01:09:58,493 Or even close to the scale of the amount of plastic 964 01:09:58,495 --> 01:10:01,629 That is projected to be produced in the coming decade 965 01:10:01,631 --> 01:10:04,165 Based upon all this new investment in infrastructure. 966 01:10:24,854 --> 01:10:28,523 The metaphor I use in the piece is it's like trying to bail out 967 01:10:28,525 --> 01:10:33,161 A bathtub with a teaspoon while the tap is on full blast. 968 01:10:33,163 --> 01:10:35,997 And certainly we see that this distraction 969 01:10:35,999 --> 01:10:37,999 Has been effective in terms of media coverage. 970 01:10:38,001 --> 01:10:42,103 There is a lot of coverage about cleanup. 971 01:10:42,105 --> 01:10:44,339 Whether it's the big ocean cleanup 972 01:10:44,341 --> 01:10:46,641 That has a lot of big money behind it 973 01:10:46,643 --> 01:10:48,309 Or whether it's smaller efforts, 974 01:10:48,311 --> 01:10:50,712 Whether it's industry investments in cleanup, 975 01:10:50,714 --> 01:10:53,214 That definitely has dominated the narrative. 976 01:10:55,518 --> 01:10:58,920 That famous quote, "the future of plastic is in the trash can." 977 01:10:58,922 --> 01:11:04,125 It's no secret that the industry has for decades understood 978 01:11:04,127 --> 01:11:05,860 That the way to profit more 979 01:11:05,862 --> 01:11:08,029 Is to get people to use more plastic. 980 01:11:10,133 --> 01:11:12,634 Their incentive is to get us to use more, 981 01:11:12,636 --> 01:11:14,802 And if we throw it away, 982 01:11:14,804 --> 01:11:17,138 That creates p.R. Problems for them. 983 01:11:17,140 --> 01:11:18,940 But economically, it's great 984 01:11:18,942 --> 01:11:22,710 If we just keep using single-use products. 985 01:11:28,151 --> 01:11:30,585 So, if we stop to pick up everything on the way out there, 986 01:11:30,587 --> 01:11:32,820 We'd never make it out past the jetty, 987 01:11:32,822 --> 01:11:36,524 So we have to leave some things by the wayside. 988 01:11:40,263 --> 01:11:43,965 I'm captain of the oceanographic research vessel alguita 989 01:11:43,967 --> 01:11:51,172 And founder of alguita marine research and education. 990 01:11:51,174 --> 01:11:54,976 I'm known for working well off shore of the coastal ocean 991 01:11:54,978 --> 01:11:58,680 In what are known as the oceanic gyres. 992 01:12:02,719 --> 01:12:05,953 In 1997, I decided to take a shortcut 993 01:12:05,955 --> 01:12:09,490 And cut across this vast expanse, 994 01:12:09,492 --> 01:12:14,362 Which was basically a thousand miles in diameter. 995 01:12:14,364 --> 01:12:17,765 And I couldn't come on deck without seeing a single piece 996 01:12:17,767 --> 01:12:20,068 Of plastic float by within five minutes. 997 01:12:25,642 --> 01:12:28,476 It's proliferated so fast, within 20 years 998 01:12:28,478 --> 01:12:31,179 From my time of discovering it until today, 999 01:12:31,181 --> 01:12:36,984 I feel I underestimated the actual danger. 1000 01:12:36,986 --> 01:12:38,853 And the "aha" moment was the first time 1001 01:12:38,855 --> 01:12:42,256 We threw that trawl in the ocean and pulled it in. 1002 01:12:42,258 --> 01:12:44,225 It was full of plastic fragments. 1003 01:12:44,227 --> 01:12:46,461 That's what blew my mind, when we realized 1004 01:12:46,463 --> 01:12:48,930 No matter where you're gonna throw that net and out here, 1005 01:12:48,932 --> 01:12:52,567 You're going to find that stuff. 1006 01:12:52,569 --> 01:12:55,269 So, we just pulled in the trawl. 1007 01:12:55,271 --> 01:12:57,238 This is all plastic that we caught 1008 01:12:57,240 --> 01:13:01,809 At the surface of the ocean. 1009 01:13:01,811 --> 01:13:03,611 Wow. That's a lot. 1010 01:13:03,613 --> 01:13:04,712 You'll see the nurdles, 1011 01:13:04,714 --> 01:13:07,081 Which are the preproduction resin pellets 1012 01:13:07,083 --> 01:13:09,450 For majority of all of our plastics we've ever owned. 1013 01:13:09,452 --> 01:13:12,186 It started out as the nurdles. 1014 01:13:12,188 --> 01:13:15,323 Look at that separation between the plastic layer. 1015 01:13:15,325 --> 01:13:18,960 Look how many different layers there are of materials there. 1016 01:13:18,962 --> 01:13:22,130 See how the plastic separating from that foil. 1017 01:13:22,132 --> 01:13:25,333 So, how easy do you think it is for the recyclers to do that? 1018 01:13:34,544 --> 01:13:41,916 Oh, we love our sachets. 1019 01:13:41,918 --> 01:13:44,118 Just about anywhere you look now, 1020 01:13:44,120 --> 01:13:46,287 You can find plastic if you look, 1021 01:13:46,289 --> 01:13:49,157 Especially, at the nano scale materials, 1022 01:13:49,159 --> 01:13:55,029 Which are now beginning to enter into the web of life itself. 1023 01:14:15,952 --> 01:14:20,321 Ballent: When you realize how widespread this issue is 1024 01:14:20,323 --> 01:14:23,825 And how small the particles are, you realize that cleanup 1025 01:14:23,827 --> 01:14:27,462 Is really just a great way to see how bad the problem is. 1026 01:14:27,464 --> 01:14:30,498 We cannot rely on it as a solution. 1027 01:14:40,710 --> 01:14:45,012 Grate: There are solutions that have been proven to work. 1028 01:14:45,014 --> 01:14:48,516 There are cities working towards zero waste. 1029 01:15:08,705 --> 01:15:13,608 My vision for the future is all cities are going zero waste, 1030 01:15:13,610 --> 01:15:16,444 And that means that all that we use, 1031 01:15:16,446 --> 01:15:20,681 All that they produce, can either be composed or recycled, 1032 01:15:20,683 --> 01:15:25,086 And all cities have the capacity to manage these composed 1033 01:15:25,088 --> 01:15:27,822 Of all of these recyclables. 1034 01:15:27,824 --> 01:15:30,691 Currently, we still have residual waste. 1035 01:15:30,693 --> 01:15:32,860 These are products or packaging 1036 01:15:32,862 --> 01:15:35,863 That can neither be composed nor recycled. 1037 01:15:35,865 --> 01:15:37,598 But the beauty of a zero-waste program 1038 01:15:37,600 --> 01:15:40,868 Is that we are not hiding these products. 1039 01:15:48,978 --> 01:15:53,481 If you are collecting resources and not waste, 1040 01:15:53,483 --> 01:15:55,383 It's not expensive. 1041 01:16:00,723 --> 01:16:05,126 One example is san fernando city in the philippines. 1042 01:16:05,128 --> 01:16:06,894 Without the zero-waste program, 1043 01:16:06,896 --> 01:16:12,066 San fernando would be spending 70 million pesos per year 1044 01:16:12,068 --> 01:16:15,803 Just to collect their waste and dump it in a landfill. 1045 01:16:15,805 --> 01:16:17,572 With the zero-waste program. 1046 01:16:17,574 --> 01:16:20,808 They were able to reduce it to 12 million. 1047 01:16:20,810 --> 01:16:25,479 That translates to about 58 million pesos savings 1048 01:16:25,481 --> 01:16:29,216 For one city alone. 1049 01:16:29,218 --> 01:16:32,320 There is only one solution to manage garbage. 1050 01:16:32,322 --> 01:16:36,490 It's to implement zero-waste money spend. 1051 01:16:36,492 --> 01:16:39,260 It's really a part of the solution, 1052 01:16:39,262 --> 01:16:43,731 Economically and for the environment. 1053 01:16:43,733 --> 01:16:46,968 We're proud of san fernando with their 7% to 8% 1054 01:16:46,970 --> 01:16:48,703 Waste aversion. 1055 01:16:48,705 --> 01:16:53,307 But the reality is that you have that remaining 22% 1056 01:16:53,309 --> 01:17:00,915 That san fernando cannot manage, that no one can manage. 1057 01:17:00,917 --> 01:17:06,020 The zero-waste program allows us to identify which products 1058 01:17:06,022 --> 01:17:13,728 Are beyond the capacity of communities to manage. 1059 01:17:13,730 --> 01:17:16,731 Industries are going to have to take this into account. 1060 01:17:16,733 --> 01:17:19,266 If their product isn't able to be recycled, 1061 01:17:19,268 --> 01:17:21,102 Not not only in the in the country 1062 01:17:21,104 --> 01:17:22,436 Where it's produced or designed, 1063 01:17:22,438 --> 01:17:24,238 But in the country where it ends up, 1064 01:17:24,240 --> 01:17:27,108 Then they shouldn't be producing that kind of product. 1065 01:17:41,457 --> 01:17:43,891 Man: Right now, we are having a brand audit 1066 01:17:43,893 --> 01:17:45,960 In which we are trying to identify 1067 01:17:45,962 --> 01:17:50,531 The brands which contribute the most to plastic waste 1068 01:17:50,533 --> 01:17:52,900 Which is generated at the household level. 1069 01:17:52,902 --> 01:17:56,070 We are trying to generate enough baseline data 1070 01:17:56,072 --> 01:17:58,372 To enable the government to take a stand 1071 01:17:58,374 --> 01:18:01,542 So that they can follow guidelines for implementing epr 1072 01:18:01,544 --> 01:18:05,880 To fix extended producer responsibility. 1073 01:18:05,882 --> 01:18:08,516 When we say "extended producer responsibility," 1074 01:18:08,518 --> 01:18:10,685 He try to transfer the responsibility 1075 01:18:10,687 --> 01:18:15,823 Of handling discards of branded products back to the producer. 1076 01:18:15,825 --> 01:18:18,192 For example, if you're buying a packet of chips, 1077 01:18:18,194 --> 01:18:20,795 You had essentially buying the chips and not packaging 1078 01:18:20,797 --> 01:18:23,330 Which comes along with it. 1079 01:18:23,332 --> 01:18:26,567 So, the manufacturer should take the responsibility 1080 01:18:26,569 --> 01:18:29,503 For either collecting them back 1081 01:18:29,505 --> 01:18:34,175 Or should support the government in treating them. 1082 01:18:34,177 --> 01:18:37,178 So, this is what we dream by implementing 1083 01:18:37,180 --> 01:18:39,847 Extended producer responsibility. 1084 01:18:39,849 --> 01:18:42,450 From what we see right here, 1085 01:18:42,452 --> 01:18:45,286 There are five main contributors to the majority 1086 01:18:45,288 --> 01:18:47,788 Of the plastic waste generated. 1087 01:18:47,790 --> 01:18:53,627 Unilever, itc, nestlé, milman, and pepsico. 1088 01:18:53,629 --> 01:18:55,162 And we are getting similar feedback 1089 01:18:55,164 --> 01:18:58,632 From different brands as their collected all over the country 1090 01:18:58,634 --> 01:19:02,403 Where the same names are coming up a the top brands. 1091 01:19:05,675 --> 01:19:08,642 Man: We know who they are. 1092 01:19:08,644 --> 01:19:10,511 He's been trying to work with them. 1093 01:19:10,513 --> 01:19:16,784 They have to step up, and they had to own the problem. 1094 01:19:16,786 --> 01:19:19,920 Hernandez: It cannot be forever supporting the bottom line 1095 01:19:19,922 --> 01:19:22,323 Of this companies that has got to stop now. 1096 01:19:22,325 --> 01:19:25,826 They need to be given the bill. 1097 01:19:25,828 --> 01:19:28,696 We've got to pass legislation, 1098 01:19:28,698 --> 01:19:32,399 And we've got to create public opinion to reduce waste. 1099 01:19:48,718 --> 01:19:50,718 Simon: They have a role to play if they want to adapt, 1100 01:19:50,720 --> 01:19:52,286 But if they don't adapt, 1101 01:19:52,288 --> 01:19:55,222 We should not expect the coca colas or pepsi colas 1102 01:19:55,224 --> 01:19:58,793 Or unilevers of this world to be there in 20 years. 1103 01:19:58,795 --> 01:20:04,064 To continue creating products on the basis of petrochemicals 1104 01:20:04,066 --> 01:20:06,967 Is not embracing the full potential 1105 01:20:06,969 --> 01:20:09,737 Of the opportunities that we see elsewhere. 1106 01:20:09,739 --> 01:20:13,207 We're almost there that you can create packaging 1107 01:20:13,209 --> 01:20:15,242 That has nothing to do with plastics. 1108 01:20:15,244 --> 01:20:17,311 We're almost there. 1109 01:20:22,885 --> 01:20:24,418 If you can use less material, 1110 01:20:24,420 --> 01:20:26,921 For sure, that's always number one. 1111 01:20:26,923 --> 01:20:29,323 But for everything else, biodegradable 1112 01:20:29,325 --> 01:20:33,861 And bio-based plastic can be a good solution in the future. 1113 01:20:46,075 --> 01:20:48,342 People always say, like, "oh, molly, I thought of you. 1114 01:20:48,344 --> 01:20:50,511 I was at cvs, and I bought 1115 01:20:50,513 --> 01:20:52,246 A biodegradable shampoo bottle," and I'm like, 1116 01:20:52,248 --> 01:20:56,016 "I know exactly what you bought. It's not biodegradable." 1117 01:20:56,018 --> 01:20:59,053 Just 'cause something's made from corn or plants 1118 01:20:59,055 --> 01:21:00,921 Does not mean it's biodegradable. 1119 01:21:00,923 --> 01:21:02,489 So, we see a lot of things 1120 01:21:02,491 --> 01:21:05,759 Like bio-p.E.T. On the market, for instance. 1121 01:21:05,761 --> 01:21:09,396 And bio-p.E.T. Is the same carbon chain 1122 01:21:09,398 --> 01:21:11,699 That's in conventional p.E.T., 1123 01:21:11,701 --> 01:21:14,134 And you're not using ancient fossil carbon 1124 01:21:14,136 --> 01:21:15,936 To make that material, 1125 01:21:15,938 --> 01:21:17,671 But it's the exact same carbon chain. 1126 01:21:17,673 --> 01:21:19,773 It's not gonna be biodegradable. 1127 01:21:19,775 --> 01:21:21,976 So, those two things are completely unrelated, 1128 01:21:21,978 --> 01:21:24,211 Biodegradable and bio-based. 1129 01:21:24,213 --> 01:21:29,149 But we really need to think about both 1130 01:21:29,151 --> 01:21:33,420 What we're going up against, the incumbent persistence, 1131 01:21:33,422 --> 01:21:35,222 Petrochemical-based plastics. 1132 01:21:35,224 --> 01:21:38,792 This is a massive infrastructure challenge. 1133 01:21:56,445 --> 01:21:59,313 Morawski: If we really want to completely transform 1134 01:21:59,315 --> 01:22:02,583 This industry, we have to create that demand 1135 01:22:02,585 --> 01:22:04,585 And say to the producers, 1136 01:22:04,587 --> 01:22:09,156 "you must buy this much recycled resin instead of virgin, 1137 01:22:09,158 --> 01:22:10,891 Then you're going to see demand. 1138 01:22:10,893 --> 01:22:13,694 Then you're going to see investment in recycling. 1139 01:22:13,696 --> 01:22:18,966 Now, that being said, it's not all about recycling. 1140 01:22:18,968 --> 01:22:23,470 I don't think we recycle our way out of this problem. 1141 01:22:23,472 --> 01:22:28,542 We've got to reduce and reuse our way out of this, 1142 01:22:28,544 --> 01:22:30,277 And that's definitely not what 1143 01:22:30,279 --> 01:22:35,916 Dow, and dupont, and 3m, and target, 1144 01:22:35,918 --> 01:22:41,121 And procter & gamble, and starbucks are thinking. 1145 01:22:46,162 --> 01:22:47,628 Simon: The question is, are we going to see 1146 01:22:47,630 --> 01:22:50,464 A world of multinationals in 20 or 30 years' time, 1147 01:22:50,466 --> 01:22:52,266 Or we want to see a world where, actually, 1148 01:22:52,268 --> 01:22:55,803 You have a lot more alternative delivery systems, 1149 01:22:55,805 --> 01:22:58,739 Business models that go a lot more small scale, 1150 01:22:58,741 --> 01:23:01,608 And actually building on the communities. 1151 01:23:01,610 --> 01:23:03,243 Priestland: The world that I hope to see 1152 01:23:03,245 --> 01:23:07,915 Is one where your beauty-care products or your drinks 1153 01:23:07,917 --> 01:23:09,616 Or whatever else that you're buying 1154 01:23:09,618 --> 01:23:12,019 Is coming in reusable packaging, 1155 01:23:12,021 --> 01:23:15,122 And we have more localized systems 1156 01:23:15,124 --> 01:23:18,592 So that we break free from these huge, multinational companies 1157 01:23:18,594 --> 01:23:20,327 Who have massive supply chains 1158 01:23:20,329 --> 01:23:25,532 That force them to rely on plastic packaging. 1159 01:23:25,534 --> 01:23:29,837 At least we can turn off the tap, right? 1160 01:23:29,839 --> 01:23:32,306 That's the least that we can do... 1161 01:23:32,308 --> 01:23:39,546 The very least that we can do. 1162 01:23:39,548 --> 01:23:44,118 People are thinking that prevention is radical, 1163 01:23:44,120 --> 01:23:47,321 Something that comes after recycling. 1164 01:23:47,323 --> 01:23:49,890 It's not it's supposed to be the essential thing 1165 01:23:49,892 --> 01:23:51,759 To do first and foremost. 1166 01:23:51,761 --> 01:23:54,094 There has to be a policy. 1167 01:23:54,096 --> 01:23:57,965 That's the only way that you can get massive-scale conversions 1168 01:23:57,967 --> 01:23:59,666 To single-use-plastic free. 1169 01:24:06,108 --> 01:24:10,577 Before we passed the plastic-bag reduction law in california, 1170 01:24:10,579 --> 01:24:13,013 This would have been full of plastic bags, too. 1171 01:24:13,015 --> 01:24:16,817 So, it's pretty awesome that there aren't very many 1172 01:24:16,819 --> 01:24:19,019 'cause those plastic bags are a nightmare. 1173 01:24:19,021 --> 01:24:20,754 They gummed up everything. 1174 01:24:20,756 --> 01:24:23,590 And it's a success story that gives us some ideas 1175 01:24:23,592 --> 01:24:28,695 About how we might deal with some of these other materials. 1176 01:24:28,697 --> 01:24:30,697 Timmermans: What we did is we looked at 1177 01:24:30,699 --> 01:24:32,833 Which single-use-plastics items 1178 01:24:32,835 --> 01:24:35,602 Could be easily replaced like straws, 1179 01:24:35,604 --> 01:24:40,340 Q-tips, plastic cutlery, plastic plates, et cetera, 1180 01:24:40,342 --> 01:24:43,277 So we could ban those products. 1181 01:24:43,279 --> 01:24:47,281 And then you have products that are not as easily replaceable. 1182 01:24:47,283 --> 01:24:48,982 There, you need to help industry 1183 01:24:48,984 --> 01:24:51,118 To try and develop other products 1184 01:24:51,120 --> 01:24:52,820 That could replace these products. 1185 01:24:52,822 --> 01:24:56,256 And, also, what has been very successful are programs 1186 01:24:56,258 --> 01:24:58,859 To recollect plastic bottles. 1187 01:24:58,861 --> 01:25:02,729 You get collection of over 90%. 1188 01:25:02,731 --> 01:25:08,635 All these things combined should be one strategy. 1189 01:25:08,637 --> 01:25:13,474 This is not a europe-centric or western-centric issue. 1190 01:25:17,813 --> 01:25:19,980 In some african countries, 1191 01:25:19,982 --> 01:25:22,316 Governments are willing to be more radical than europe 1192 01:25:22,318 --> 01:25:24,852 On single-use plastics. 1193 01:25:24,854 --> 01:25:27,754 Woman: Rwanda is a role model. 1194 01:25:27,756 --> 01:25:30,357 Since the ban was introduced 10 years ago, 1195 01:25:30,359 --> 01:25:35,429 Countries around the world have since also banned plastic bags. 1196 01:25:35,431 --> 01:25:40,801 Morawski: The public is happy to hear about these bans taking place. 1197 01:25:40,803 --> 01:25:43,203 And companies are really afraid. 1198 01:25:43,205 --> 01:25:45,973 They're suddenly realizing this is really serious. 1199 01:25:54,416 --> 01:25:56,383 Without the legislation, we have nothing. 1200 01:25:56,385 --> 01:25:57,918 Because then you're asking corporations 1201 01:25:57,920 --> 01:25:59,686 To voluntarily do the right thing. 1202 01:25:59,688 --> 01:26:01,155 They're not going to do that. 1203 01:26:01,157 --> 01:26:03,857 But if everybody is forced to do it, they all have to pay, 1204 01:26:03,859 --> 01:26:05,626 They're going to come together, 1205 01:26:05,628 --> 01:26:08,495 And those costs that were externalized in the past 1206 01:26:08,497 --> 01:26:11,231 And basically borne by poor communities 1207 01:26:11,233 --> 01:26:14,301 Suffering with all this marine litter or municipalities 1208 01:26:14,303 --> 01:26:17,905 Having to deal with expensive recycling and disposal programs 1209 01:26:17,907 --> 01:26:21,675 Or large incinerators that they have to keep feeding, 1210 01:26:21,677 --> 01:26:23,544 Those are externalized costs 1211 01:26:23,546 --> 01:26:26,346 That companies are profiting from. 1212 01:26:26,348 --> 01:26:28,115 Now we're going to give them back those costs and say, 1213 01:26:28,117 --> 01:26:29,850 "you know what? It's your problem now. 1214 01:26:29,852 --> 01:26:30,918 You deal with it. 1215 01:26:30,920 --> 01:26:32,019 Are you still going to do business 1216 01:26:32,021 --> 01:26:33,720 The same way you do business now, 1217 01:26:33,722 --> 01:26:35,656 Or are you going to redesign your product 1218 01:26:35,658 --> 01:26:37,157 So you're going to reduce those costs 1219 01:26:37,159 --> 01:26:41,828 And it's actually going to be more environmentally friendly?" 1220 01:26:41,830 --> 01:26:44,398 I believe we're at a tipping point right now. 1221 01:26:44,400 --> 01:26:46,800 I've seen more policy change globally 1222 01:26:46,802 --> 01:26:48,402 In the last 8 months 1223 01:26:48,404 --> 01:26:50,904 Than I've seen in 20 years of my career 1224 01:26:50,906 --> 01:26:53,507 Because not only are governments getting pissed off, 1225 01:26:53,509 --> 01:26:55,676 But companies are recognizing 1226 01:26:55,678 --> 01:26:57,411 They can't get away with it anymore. 1227 01:28:13,422 --> 01:28:15,555 Carpenter: So many parts of our economy, 1228 01:28:15,557 --> 01:28:17,591 So many places around the world are dependent 1229 01:28:17,593 --> 01:28:20,927 On this relatively small group of corporations 1230 01:28:20,929 --> 01:28:23,497 Who are making a tremendous amount of money 1231 01:28:23,499 --> 01:28:27,167 Poisoning the rest of us. 1232 01:28:27,169 --> 01:28:30,470 And, so, figuring out how to break out of that cycle. 1233 01:28:30,472 --> 01:28:35,342 That's the project of our lifetime. 1234 01:28:35,344 --> 01:28:37,711 Bourque: Plastics are treated as a product 1235 01:28:37,713 --> 01:28:40,247 That miraculously appears from nowhere, 1236 01:28:40,249 --> 01:28:44,051 And it goes to nowhere. 1237 01:28:44,053 --> 01:28:47,754 That invisibility, that magic nature of plastics 1238 01:28:47,756 --> 01:28:51,658 Is something that the oil and gas industry has perpetuated 1239 01:28:51,660 --> 01:28:54,628 And promoted very effectively for decades. 1240 01:28:54,630 --> 01:28:59,800 But what was once invisible is becoming visible. 1241 01:28:59,802 --> 01:29:02,536 The plastic crisis doesn't start 1242 01:29:02,538 --> 01:29:04,638 When the plastics enter the ocean. 1243 01:29:04,640 --> 01:29:08,175 It starts when the oil and the gas leave the wellhead 1244 01:29:08,177 --> 01:29:12,045 And it keeps on being a problem at every step along the way. 1245 01:29:15,517 --> 01:29:16,817 So, if you want to stop plastics, 1246 01:29:16,819 --> 01:29:20,153 If you want to truly confront the plastics crisis, 1247 01:29:20,155 --> 01:29:23,256 Fight to end fossil-fuel subsidies. 1248 01:29:23,258 --> 01:29:26,059 Make companies accountable for the lifecycle impacts 1249 01:29:26,061 --> 01:29:27,928 Of their products. 1250 01:29:27,930 --> 01:29:31,331 The moment that exxon, the moment that shell, 1251 01:29:31,333 --> 01:29:33,500 The moment that chevron and dow and dupont 1252 01:29:33,502 --> 01:29:35,702 Own the impacts of these products, 1253 01:29:35,704 --> 01:29:40,440 The plastics crisis will be over and not before then. 1254 01:29:40,442 --> 01:29:42,976 Now, it may be a kind of a token idea, 1255 01:29:42,978 --> 01:29:45,746 But I think that circular economy is possible. 1256 01:29:45,748 --> 01:29:47,781 Zero waste is possible. 1257 01:30:04,566 --> 01:30:06,600 Mafira: It's not reasonable at all 1258 01:30:06,602 --> 01:30:11,671 That we continue to live like this and expect to survive. 1259 01:30:11,673 --> 01:30:14,641 We're ruining the planet that gives us life, 1260 01:30:14,643 --> 01:30:17,477 And we're ruining the oceans that give us fish. 1261 01:30:17,479 --> 01:30:20,847 We're ruining the rivers that give us clean water. 1262 01:30:28,190 --> 01:30:32,993 I don't think they can keep on tricking people forever. 103845

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