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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:32,100 --> 00:00:37,149 in 1979 a comedy feature film quickly 2 00:00:35,560 --> 00:00:40,570 became one of the most controversial 3 00:00:37,149 --> 00:00:42,609 pieces of cinema in history no film had 4 00:00:40,570 --> 00:00:45,310 ever before satirized christianity so 5 00:00:42,609 --> 00:00:49,058 blatantly see October brought you up and 6 00:00:45,310 --> 00:00:51,550 it caused outrage you so disgusted I 7 00:00:49,058 --> 00:00:53,738 guess a admit we all you've done is to 8 00:00:51,549 --> 00:00:57,280 make a lot of people across seeing a 9 00:00:53,738 --> 00:00:59,259 music a musical song a group of rabbis 10 00:00:57,280 --> 00:01:00,730 and priests held demonstrations over 11 00:00:59,259 --> 00:01:02,619 this past weekend and they were 12 00:01:00,729 --> 00:01:05,469 demonstrating against a movie called the 13 00:01:02,619 --> 00:01:07,689 life of grind protesters around the 14 00:01:05,469 --> 00:01:10,420 world marched against the life of Brian 15 00:01:07,689 --> 00:01:13,269 it was dropped by finances fanned by 16 00:01:10,420 --> 00:01:16,000 councils states even entire countries 17 00:01:13,269 --> 00:01:18,640 but it still managed to get shown and 18 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:20,680 still managed to offend seemingly every 19 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:22,390 world religion these people are 20 00:01:20,680 --> 00:01:25,030 operating at a very very low level of 21 00:01:22,390 --> 00:01:26,710 mental health they are incapable of 22 00:01:25,030 --> 00:01:28,269 understanding your teaching what 23 00:01:26,709 --> 00:01:31,139 happened to sticks and stones can break 24 00:01:28,269 --> 00:01:33,000 my bones but words can never hurt me 25 00:01:31,140 --> 00:01:34,980 this is the story of one of the greatest 26 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:39,079 films and one of the greatest cultural 27 00:01:34,980 --> 00:01:39,079 battles of modern times 28 00:01:43,030 --> 00:01:47,659 during the 1970s Monty Python's Flying 29 00:01:45,950 --> 00:01:50,359 Circus became one of the most 30 00:01:47,659 --> 00:01:53,780 influential comedy programs Britain has 31 00:01:50,359 --> 00:01:58,099 ever produced one of the crossbeams has 32 00:01:53,780 --> 00:01:59,689 gone out of skill on the treadle I don't 33 00:01:58,099 --> 00:02:01,429 know mr. wen was just told me to come in 34 00:01:59,689 --> 00:02:02,929 here and save the trouble of the mill 35 00:02:01,430 --> 00:02:09,259 that's all I didn't expect a kind of 36 00:02:02,930 --> 00:02:12,200 Spanish Inquisition nobody expects the 37 00:02:09,258 --> 00:02:14,389 Spanish Inquisition our chief weapon 38 00:02:12,199 --> 00:02:16,310 this surprise surprise and fear fears 39 00:02:14,389 --> 00:02:18,589 one or two weapons our fear and surprise 40 00:02:16,310 --> 00:02:21,890 and ruthless efficiency are three 41 00:02:18,590 --> 00:02:23,180 weapons armed and surprised and ruthless 42 00:02:21,889 --> 00:02:27,529 efficiency have an almost fanatical 43 00:02:23,180 --> 00:02:30,290 devotion to the Pope art for the Python 44 00:02:27,530 --> 00:02:32,000 team were Comedy superstars they'd made 45 00:02:30,289 --> 00:02:35,539 three series of the TV show and become 46 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:37,610 cult stars in the UK and us the release 47 00:02:35,539 --> 00:02:39,560 of their first feature film Monty Python 48 00:02:37,610 --> 00:02:43,280 and the Holy Grail propelled them to 49 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:45,319 even greater international success we've 50 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:46,819 been doing up our publicity for Grail it 51 00:02:45,319 --> 00:02:50,599 sort of brought us back together again 52 00:02:46,819 --> 00:02:52,430 and I think we must have felt well the 53 00:02:50,599 --> 00:02:54,789 Grails going down well maybe she'd do 54 00:02:52,430 --> 00:02:58,849 another movie the moment was really in 55 00:02:54,789 --> 00:03:01,370 Amsterdam one of a drunken pub crawl one 56 00:02:58,849 --> 00:03:02,509 evening and that was Eric when he said 57 00:03:01,370 --> 00:03:04,879 you know wouldn't be great 58 00:03:02,509 --> 00:03:07,129 let's do Jesus Christ lust for glory and 59 00:03:04,879 --> 00:03:08,870 yeah I fell off the chair because that 60 00:03:07,129 --> 00:03:11,090 was so outrageous and wonderful and 61 00:03:08,870 --> 00:03:12,980 spot-on my reaction to the idea of doing 62 00:03:11,090 --> 00:03:16,819 a Bible story was slightly disappointing 63 00:03:12,979 --> 00:03:20,000 because I always thought the costumes 64 00:03:16,819 --> 00:03:21,349 was a boring remember going to church of 65 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:23,269 england school every time we had to do a 66 00:03:21,349 --> 00:03:25,579 paint a biblical scene you know those 67 00:03:23,269 --> 00:03:28,849 everybody just some long robes it's not 68 00:03:25,579 --> 00:03:30,620 interesting born in the 1940s all of the 69 00:03:28,849 --> 00:03:33,109 Pythons had received some form of 70 00:03:30,620 --> 00:03:35,950 religious education but Christianity was 71 00:03:33,110 --> 00:03:38,690 either rejected or distrusted by each 72 00:03:35,949 --> 00:03:42,879 there was a lot of religion thrown at us 73 00:03:38,689 --> 00:03:45,348 but very little that was explained 74 00:03:42,879 --> 00:03:47,568 certainly satisfactorily 75 00:03:45,348 --> 00:03:51,560 I'd been confirmed and I'd sat around 76 00:03:47,568 --> 00:03:53,750 for some weeks expecting some golden 77 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:58,610 globe descend on me when it didn't I 78 00:03:53,750 --> 00:04:02,509 became fairly atheistic or humanistic I 79 00:03:58,610 --> 00:04:05,329 was in many ways a little zealot I had 80 00:04:02,509 --> 00:04:08,598 read the Bible least twice by the time I 81 00:04:05,329 --> 00:04:10,459 was about sixteen so I knew my stuff I 82 00:04:08,598 --> 00:04:12,139 can do it tends to sexist Leviticus 83 00:04:10,459 --> 00:04:14,329 numbers Deuteronomy Joshua judges Ruth 84 00:04:12,139 --> 00:04:17,358 verses examples I can do all those 85 00:04:14,329 --> 00:04:19,788 things and then I decided I'd had enough 86 00:04:17,358 --> 00:04:21,228 so all right I sort of walked away from 87 00:04:19,788 --> 00:04:23,959 religion around that time and thought 88 00:04:21,228 --> 00:04:27,199 education is better we were lucky 89 00:04:23,959 --> 00:04:29,509 because we shared the same attitudes to 90 00:04:27,199 --> 00:04:31,220 what religion wasn't I don't think you 91 00:04:29,509 --> 00:04:33,889 could have added up the Pythons degree 92 00:04:31,220 --> 00:04:36,770 on what it was but certainly we agreed 93 00:04:33,889 --> 00:04:39,288 on what it wasn't and that was lucky the 94 00:04:36,769 --> 00:04:41,750 Pythons began work on Jesus Christ lust 95 00:04:39,288 --> 00:04:43,219 for glory the first task was to research 96 00:04:41,750 --> 00:04:46,459 their subject thoroughly 97 00:04:43,220 --> 00:04:48,289 I remember going with Terry and the 98 00:04:46,459 --> 00:04:50,719 others to see screenings of other 99 00:04:48,288 --> 00:04:52,009 biblical epics like Quo Vadis and 100 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:54,500 Solomon sheep and all that they were 101 00:04:52,009 --> 00:04:56,209 pretty dreadful after about watching 3 102 00:04:54,500 --> 00:04:58,610 or 4 that we said you realize they would 103 00:04:56,209 --> 00:05:02,089 had one thing in common and that was 104 00:04:58,610 --> 00:05:05,270 that everybody in the film spoke in this 105 00:05:02,089 --> 00:05:08,750 very special way because they were aware 106 00:05:05,269 --> 00:05:11,240 that they were told living at a time 107 00:05:08,750 --> 00:05:15,918 when something very wonderful happening 108 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:16,910 blessed are those of gentle spirit they 109 00:05:15,918 --> 00:05:18,859 shall have the earth for their 110 00:05:16,910 --> 00:05:21,020 possession I've been I remember saying 111 00:05:18,860 --> 00:05:22,910 to the others that you know what people 112 00:05:21,019 --> 00:05:24,649 will find our film shocking because 113 00:05:22,910 --> 00:05:32,510 it'll be the first biblical film in 114 00:05:24,649 --> 00:05:34,638 which people speak in normal voice how 115 00:05:32,509 --> 00:05:36,800 do you think now you telling me that's 116 00:05:34,639 --> 00:05:38,689 not worth 20 shekels no look at it feel 117 00:05:36,800 --> 00:05:40,550 equality that's not in your goat all 118 00:05:38,689 --> 00:05:41,990 right I'll give you 19 then no no no 119 00:05:40,550 --> 00:05:44,360 come on do it properly well haggle 120 00:05:41,990 --> 00:05:46,098 properly this isn't worth 19 you just 121 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:48,800 said it was worth 20 Wow dear oh dear 122 00:05:46,098 --> 00:05:49,908 come on haggle all right I'll give you 123 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:52,908 ten that's more like it 124 00:05:49,908 --> 00:05:55,189 ten are you trying to insult me me with 125 00:05:52,908 --> 00:05:57,659 a poor dying grandmother Jay 126 00:05:55,189 --> 00:05:59,550 biblical epics viewed and the Gospels 127 00:05:57,660 --> 00:06:02,340 reread led all to realize that 128 00:05:59,550 --> 00:06:05,970 artistically speaking Jesus was not the 129 00:06:02,339 --> 00:06:09,569 answer what began as Jesus Christ 130 00:06:05,970 --> 00:06:12,180 lustful glory actually gradually moved 131 00:06:09,569 --> 00:06:15,509 away from from that idea simply because 132 00:06:12,180 --> 00:06:17,850 they found Jesus Christ wasn't funny you 133 00:06:15,509 --> 00:06:20,689 know you've got Christ saying very good 134 00:06:17,850 --> 00:06:24,300 things and saying the right things and 135 00:06:20,689 --> 00:06:26,969 as a wonderful figure though that's not 136 00:06:24,300 --> 00:06:30,030 where the fun lies really once you start 137 00:06:26,970 --> 00:06:31,949 thinking about it it can and start just 138 00:06:30,029 --> 00:06:35,638 thinking of it in everyday terms you see 139 00:06:31,949 --> 00:06:38,250 you accept that this happened but when 140 00:06:35,639 --> 00:06:39,840 Mary said to Joseph you am pregnant but 141 00:06:38,250 --> 00:06:41,579 it's okay I wasn't with anyone because 142 00:06:39,839 --> 00:06:43,500 the Holy Spirit comes down you know and 143 00:06:41,579 --> 00:06:44,699 then Joseph goes off to the pub and says 144 00:06:43,500 --> 00:06:47,129 to his friend you know I was a bit 145 00:06:44,699 --> 00:06:48,990 worried that my wife was it's all right 146 00:06:47,129 --> 00:06:50,459 because she see she was impregnated by 147 00:06:48,990 --> 00:06:54,538 the Holy Ghost and all his friends like 148 00:06:50,459 --> 00:06:56,098 Oh fine well that's a relief you see 149 00:06:54,538 --> 00:06:59,490 what I mean the moment you start looking 150 00:06:56,098 --> 00:07:01,680 stuff there's a funny side to it here 151 00:06:59,490 --> 00:07:04,050 that they said all the Greek big Greek 152 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:06,569 well apparently he's going to inherit 153 00:07:04,050 --> 00:07:10,050 the earth did anyone catch his name the 154 00:07:06,569 --> 00:07:11,610 meek blessed are for me oh that's nice 155 00:07:10,050 --> 00:07:14,158 silly I'm glad they getting something 156 00:07:11,610 --> 00:07:15,689 cuz they had elevate I'm the comedy it 157 00:07:14,158 --> 00:07:19,680 seemed pretty clear 158 00:07:15,689 --> 00:07:21,959 was in the interpretation of the gospel 159 00:07:19,680 --> 00:07:23,370 the angle that we all agreed on in the 160 00:07:21,959 --> 00:07:25,709 end was that you'd look at the 161 00:07:23,370 --> 00:07:27,750 historical situation in Judea at that 162 00:07:25,709 --> 00:07:29,969 time it was a time when the sub 163 00:07:27,750 --> 00:07:32,550 millennium was being sort of thought 164 00:07:29,970 --> 00:07:36,330 about again and people were expecting 165 00:07:32,550 --> 00:07:37,560 God to come down clean up the world and 166 00:07:36,329 --> 00:07:40,319 all that so people are looking for 167 00:07:37,560 --> 00:07:45,990 messiahs and so the idea of someone 168 00:07:40,319 --> 00:07:47,699 being chosen as the Messiah when all he 169 00:07:45,990 --> 00:07:50,069 is is somebody happens to be around at 170 00:07:47,699 --> 00:07:54,530 the same time in the same place seem to 171 00:07:50,069 --> 00:07:54,529 unlock a way of doing this 172 00:08:02,350 --> 00:08:07,160 there's any moment when we thought well 173 00:08:05,930 --> 00:08:09,439 we don't do that because it might be 174 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:11,330 blasphemous it was just really a 175 00:08:09,439 --> 00:08:13,639 question of being guided where the 176 00:08:11,329 --> 00:08:15,229 comedy was I was always convinced there 177 00:08:13,639 --> 00:08:16,930 was no where you couldn't go or you 178 00:08:15,230 --> 00:08:19,610 shouldn't go more to the point I think 179 00:08:16,930 --> 00:08:21,530 that's there are no sacred cows and if 180 00:08:19,610 --> 00:08:22,879 they are there if they're really sacred 181 00:08:21,529 --> 00:08:25,039 then let's see how much we can puncture 182 00:08:22,879 --> 00:08:26,930 them and see if they still float they 183 00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:29,030 had the angle but in setting out to 184 00:08:26,930 --> 00:08:31,519 lampoon the blindly faithful the Pythons 185 00:08:29,029 --> 00:08:33,139 had chosen a dangerous path a path 186 00:08:31,519 --> 00:08:34,848 towards possible prosecution for 187 00:08:33,139 --> 00:08:37,098 blasphemy and perhaps even more 188 00:08:34,849 --> 00:08:38,658 disturbingly towards a head-to-head with 189 00:08:37,099 --> 00:08:43,759 the self-proclaimed guardian of 190 00:08:38,658 --> 00:08:46,129 Christian morality Mary Whitehouse last 191 00:08:43,759 --> 00:08:49,460 Thursday evening we sat as a family and 192 00:08:46,129 --> 00:08:53,389 we saw a program that started at 6:35 193 00:08:49,460 --> 00:08:56,710 and it was the dirtiest program that I 194 00:08:53,389 --> 00:08:56,710 have seen for a very long time 195 00:10:35,970 --> 00:10:42,430 in 1977 as the Pythons began writing 196 00:10:39,458 --> 00:10:44,409 what was now called Life of Brian events 197 00:10:42,429 --> 00:10:46,599 took an ominous turn when for the first 198 00:10:44,409 --> 00:10:50,110 time in 50 years a prosecution was 199 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:54,159 brought for blasphemy gay news published 200 00:10:50,110 --> 00:10:56,320 a poem called the love that dares to 201 00:10:54,159 --> 00:11:00,219 speak its name it's a kind of meditation 202 00:10:56,320 --> 00:11:04,899 by a Centurion at the crucifixion of 203 00:11:00,220 --> 00:11:09,278 Christ and he meditates on the wounds of 204 00:11:04,899 --> 00:11:12,339 Christ and he rather gets off on these 205 00:11:09,278 --> 00:11:15,250 wounds mrs. Mary Whitehouse took 206 00:11:12,339 --> 00:11:17,589 objection to this particular poem and 207 00:11:15,250 --> 00:11:21,750 therefore she launched a private 208 00:11:17,589 --> 00:11:25,029 prosecution for blasphemous libel 209 00:11:21,750 --> 00:11:28,139 against the publishers of Gainey's and 210 00:11:25,028 --> 00:11:31,419 the editor of gay news Dennis Lemon 211 00:11:28,139 --> 00:11:32,708 mrs. White House got after it and if she 212 00:11:31,419 --> 00:11:34,269 found anything which caused her 213 00:11:32,708 --> 00:11:36,129 particular pain or distress she 214 00:11:34,269 --> 00:11:39,159 immediately bought it and read it and 215 00:11:36,129 --> 00:11:40,838 started starting a law case she felt 216 00:11:39,159 --> 00:11:44,110 inside you know that this is Christ 217 00:11:40,839 --> 00:11:46,450 being crucified again and that we really 218 00:11:44,110 --> 00:11:51,129 cannot stay silent about this this is 219 00:11:46,450 --> 00:11:53,649 what has and her her adherents sprayed 220 00:11:51,129 --> 00:11:56,470 in the passages of the Old Bailey gay 221 00:11:53,649 --> 00:11:58,570 news was convicted Dennis Lemon was 222 00:11:56,470 --> 00:12:02,259 sentenced to nine months in prison 223 00:11:58,570 --> 00:12:05,020 18 months suspended fined 500 pounds and 224 00:12:02,259 --> 00:12:07,299 gay news was fined a thousand pounds so 225 00:12:05,019 --> 00:12:09,639 by the time the gay news trial happened 226 00:12:07,299 --> 00:12:11,349 there was a kind of new definition which 227 00:12:09,639 --> 00:12:14,949 actually the judge gave you said that 228 00:12:11,350 --> 00:12:18,899 the particular offense of bas Murray was 229 00:12:14,950 --> 00:12:22,990 irreverence scre ility profanity 230 00:12:18,899 --> 00:12:25,659 vilification or lie census abuse of the 231 00:12:22,990 --> 00:12:27,879 Christian religion of course irreverence 232 00:12:25,659 --> 00:12:30,610 guerrilla T profanity vilification and 233 00:12:27,879 --> 00:12:35,198 licensures abuse sums up Monty Python 234 00:12:30,610 --> 00:12:36,699 humor beautifully the Pythons decamped 235 00:12:35,198 --> 00:12:38,859 to Barbados for two weeks 236 00:12:36,698 --> 00:12:41,559 to hone the script without interruptions 237 00:12:38,860 --> 00:12:43,419 or family pressures Terry and ice will 238 00:12:41,559 --> 00:12:44,799 slightly reluctantly agreed thinkI well 239 00:12:43,419 --> 00:12:45,229 what we get at Barbados we're just gonna 240 00:12:44,799 --> 00:12:48,079 want to 241 00:12:45,230 --> 00:12:49,820 to ski and swear money hangout who's 242 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:51,950 gonna want to write it well I think 243 00:12:49,820 --> 00:12:53,600 Barbados is really one of the smartest 244 00:12:51,950 --> 00:12:55,670 things we did because it's the first 245 00:12:53,600 --> 00:12:58,430 time we actually all went away at one 246 00:12:55,669 --> 00:13:00,559 time to one place and just locked 247 00:12:58,429 --> 00:13:02,329 ourselves off and we laughed and had a 248 00:13:00,559 --> 00:13:04,399 wonderful time and I think it was a good 249 00:13:02,330 --> 00:13:06,200 way of working because these ideas were 250 00:13:04,399 --> 00:13:07,909 thrown around really fast I think was in 251 00:13:06,200 --> 00:13:11,360 those last two weeks when we were all 252 00:13:07,909 --> 00:13:13,129 together that really the themes of the 253 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:14,539 film came out people had written very 254 00:13:13,129 --> 00:13:17,090 good stuff I mean things like the 255 00:13:14,539 --> 00:13:18,589 writing on the wall at like of the Latin 256 00:13:17,090 --> 00:13:20,450 I remember John and Graham coming up 257 00:13:18,590 --> 00:13:23,000 with that this is terrific it's just 258 00:13:20,450 --> 00:13:26,660 what we want no more knees a on Thomas 259 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:30,529 people call Romani's they go house it's 260 00:13:26,659 --> 00:13:34,459 as rebels go home no it doesn't what's 261 00:13:30,529 --> 00:13:37,179 lacking for Roman come on Romanus goes 262 00:13:34,460 --> 00:13:42,800 like Anna's father Perrault manases 263 00:13:37,179 --> 00:13:44,599 Annie Romani the script was finished the 264 00:13:42,799 --> 00:13:46,699 next big task was to find funding for 265 00:13:44,600 --> 00:13:49,040 the film between two and three million 266 00:13:46,700 --> 00:13:50,420 pounds it was always going to be a 267 00:13:49,039 --> 00:13:53,000 struggle to get backing for such a 268 00:13:50,419 --> 00:13:56,779 controversial film but undeterred they 269 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:59,299 sent the script to EMI asset when sunny 270 00:13:56,779 --> 00:14:00,649 Sunday afternoon oh my god and I've 271 00:13:59,299 --> 00:14:04,069 never read a funnier script in my life 272 00:14:00,649 --> 00:14:05,329 before or since it was just a joy I told 273 00:14:04,070 --> 00:14:07,550 Jon Gosselin that we would like to make 274 00:14:05,330 --> 00:14:12,230 the picture we shook hands 275 00:14:07,549 --> 00:14:15,259 he owned a bottle of champagne and I was 276 00:14:12,230 --> 00:14:17,720 kind of taken aback in a way because in 277 00:14:15,259 --> 00:14:21,049 negotiations with her finance was never 278 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:22,610 supposed to be that easy with EMI on 279 00:14:21,049 --> 00:14:25,750 board the team looked for a place to 280 00:14:22,610 --> 00:14:27,830 film and they soon settled on Tunisia 281 00:14:25,750 --> 00:14:30,230 you have to remember that Tunisia 282 00:14:27,830 --> 00:14:32,060 monastere was all set up the biblical 283 00:14:30,230 --> 00:14:34,759 epics that's where they made I think it 284 00:14:32,059 --> 00:14:36,529 was new grades Jesus Christ with with 285 00:14:34,759 --> 00:14:37,850 with Robert Powell in and all that so 286 00:14:36,529 --> 00:14:40,220 they had the devils they had the 287 00:14:37,850 --> 00:14:41,990 Tabernacles all these Arab extras are 288 00:14:40,220 --> 00:14:45,240 quite used to coming along and big Jews 289 00:14:41,990 --> 00:14:47,830 for a bit out sort of dead 290 00:14:45,240 --> 00:14:50,950 pre-production began costumes were made 291 00:14:47,830 --> 00:14:53,860 sets began to be built all that was left 292 00:14:50,950 --> 00:14:55,660 now was to decide on the casting it was 293 00:14:53,860 --> 00:14:57,960 becoming clear that the biggest decision 294 00:14:55,659 --> 00:15:00,610 would be who was going to play Brian 295 00:14:57,960 --> 00:15:02,320 Graham Chapman was the leading contender 296 00:15:00,610 --> 00:15:04,750 but his notorious heavy drinking was 297 00:15:02,320 --> 00:15:06,430 causing concern and John in particular 298 00:15:04,750 --> 00:15:08,320 was worried about whether he could cope 299 00:15:06,429 --> 00:15:11,229 John had written with Graham during the 300 00:15:08,320 --> 00:15:13,390 days when Graham drank a lot and was 301 00:15:11,230 --> 00:15:15,370 kind of absent physically or mentally 302 00:15:13,389 --> 00:15:17,649 for a lot of the time so John was having 303 00:15:15,370 --> 00:15:21,100 duels writing and I think John saw a 304 00:15:17,649 --> 00:15:23,319 possible danger that Graham may blow 305 00:15:21,100 --> 00:15:25,840 there the whole film you know because 306 00:15:23,320 --> 00:15:29,440 the central character Graham was getting 307 00:15:25,840 --> 00:15:32,320 through two bottles of gin a day that 308 00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:36,130 those with large ones you get behind bar 309 00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:39,910 pretty colossal he never used the word 310 00:15:36,129 --> 00:15:42,730 alcoholic but he knew damn well that he 311 00:15:39,909 --> 00:15:43,509 had to clean his act up as I understand 312 00:15:42,730 --> 00:15:45,340 it anyway 313 00:15:43,509 --> 00:15:48,279 Graham already knew he would be playing 314 00:15:45,340 --> 00:15:52,240 Brian and had really stopped drinking 315 00:15:48,279 --> 00:15:55,360 with that in mind but John Cleese wanted 316 00:15:52,240 --> 00:15:57,430 to be Brian - I wanted to be Brian for 317 00:15:55,360 --> 00:16:00,039 one simple reason which was that I'd 318 00:15:57,429 --> 00:16:01,509 never played a role that went all the 319 00:16:00,039 --> 00:16:04,629 way through the movie I'm afraid the 320 00:16:01,509 --> 00:16:06,850 rest of us were against it because okay 321 00:16:04,629 --> 00:16:11,019 I couldn't see Jones Brian quite 322 00:16:06,850 --> 00:16:12,490 honestly um and and B we we thought 323 00:16:11,019 --> 00:16:15,929 there was all these other paths that we 324 00:16:12,490 --> 00:16:19,840 wanted John to do come on no no no one 325 00:16:15,929 --> 00:16:24,039 is to stone anyone until I blow this 326 00:16:19,840 --> 00:16:26,019 whistle Joanna said her father what slow 327 00:16:24,039 --> 00:16:30,579 him before Ian's oh yes swim to the 328 00:16:26,019 --> 00:16:33,850 four-piece they were right because they 329 00:16:30,580 --> 00:16:35,860 said no no you will be funnier and the 330 00:16:33,850 --> 00:16:38,470 film will be funnier if you play the 331 00:16:35,860 --> 00:16:40,960 Centurion and reg and I was disappointed 332 00:16:38,470 --> 00:16:43,779 just because I wanted the experience but 333 00:16:40,960 --> 00:16:45,639 after very very soon I realized they 334 00:16:43,779 --> 00:16:49,269 were right and also Graham who was a 335 00:16:45,639 --> 00:16:51,399 tremendously good actor I think probably 336 00:16:49,269 --> 00:16:52,889 potentially almost the best actor of all 337 00:16:51,399 --> 00:16:56,350 of us 338 00:16:52,889 --> 00:16:58,870 February 1978 and everything was now in 339 00:16:56,350 --> 00:17:00,970 position to start filming all were ready 340 00:16:58,870 --> 00:17:04,179 to leave for Tunisia in several days and 341 00:17:00,970 --> 00:17:08,199 then the boss of EMI Bernhard del font 342 00:17:04,179 --> 00:17:09,780 read the script a suddenly gather very 343 00:17:08,199 --> 00:17:12,910 very angry 344 00:17:09,779 --> 00:17:14,789 telex in those days from Bernard L font 345 00:17:12,910 --> 00:17:16,269 who was chairman of the EMI 346 00:17:14,789 --> 00:17:17,828 entertainment section 347 00:17:16,269 --> 00:17:19,179 he said I'd looked rather quickly 348 00:17:17,828 --> 00:17:20,769 through the script of the new Marty 349 00:17:19,179 --> 00:17:22,689 Python Thurman amazed to find that it's 350 00:17:20,769 --> 00:17:25,869 not the zany comedy usually associated 351 00:17:22,689 --> 00:17:27,880 with his firms his films but his obscene 352 00:17:25,869 --> 00:17:29,859 and sacrilegious and was certainly not 353 00:17:27,880 --> 00:17:32,260 be in the interest of VMAs image to make 354 00:17:29,859 --> 00:17:34,418 this sort of film every few words there 355 00:17:32,259 --> 00:17:35,980 are outrageous swear words which is not 356 00:17:34,419 --> 00:17:38,320 in keeping with Monty Python's image 357 00:17:35,980 --> 00:17:40,419 this is very distressing to me and is a 358 00:17:38,319 --> 00:17:41,589 very serious situation I thought it's 359 00:17:40,419 --> 00:17:43,660 clearly ridiculous he doesn't know 360 00:17:41,589 --> 00:17:45,220 anything about films he shouldn't be 361 00:17:43,660 --> 00:17:48,040 making these judgments I called him up 362 00:17:45,220 --> 00:17:49,269 and spoke to him said then you've got 363 00:17:48,039 --> 00:17:51,759 the wrong end of the stick I can assure 364 00:17:49,269 --> 00:17:53,319 you as a Catholic not at normally a 365 00:17:51,759 --> 00:17:56,679 qualification I use in the film industry 366 00:17:53,319 --> 00:17:58,960 that this is not blasphemous it really 367 00:17:56,679 --> 00:18:00,910 isn't and I didn't think we should worry 368 00:17:58,960 --> 00:18:03,370 about that and he had obviously made up 369 00:18:00,910 --> 00:18:05,169 his mind that it was and he offered a 370 00:18:03,369 --> 00:18:07,000 lot of splattering on whether I argue 371 00:18:05,169 --> 00:18:10,450 with him argue with him and eventually 372 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:12,279 lost his temper and he used the immortal 373 00:18:10,450 --> 00:18:14,410 words I'm not going to have people 374 00:18:12,279 --> 00:18:17,829 saying I'm making fun of fucking Jesus 375 00:18:14,410 --> 00:18:21,460 Christ it was a mortal blow my knee am I 376 00:18:17,829 --> 00:18:23,319 pulled out because you know we had no 377 00:18:21,460 --> 00:18:24,910 other option at the time I actually 378 00:18:23,319 --> 00:18:28,240 thought the thing wasn't going to happen 379 00:18:24,910 --> 00:18:29,950 I remember I accepted a role working 380 00:18:28,240 --> 00:18:33,370 with Peter Sellers in Vienna doing a 381 00:18:29,950 --> 00:18:35,650 remake prisoner of Zenda a race to find 382 00:18:33,369 --> 00:18:37,329 finance for the film ensued with Eric 383 00:18:35,650 --> 00:18:40,570 Idle and producer John Goldstone 384 00:18:37,329 --> 00:18:43,418 departing for America Eric Idle said 385 00:18:40,569 --> 00:18:46,029 well yeah the one person that has always 386 00:18:43,419 --> 00:18:49,559 been a big Python fan is George Harrison 387 00:18:46,029 --> 00:18:51,940 and he lives in the Hollywood Hills and 388 00:18:49,558 --> 00:18:54,129 we should really go and see him and talk 389 00:18:51,940 --> 00:18:56,080 to him about it I think we sent a script 390 00:18:54,130 --> 00:18:57,910 ahead of time for him to read and then 391 00:18:56,079 --> 00:19:00,990 anyway a miracle a miracle happened a 392 00:18:57,910 --> 00:19:03,808 miracle say George of Harrison 393 00:19:00,990 --> 00:19:07,259 thanks Eric Idle heard about the project 394 00:19:03,808 --> 00:19:09,750 have said yes you know how I'd like to 395 00:19:07,259 --> 00:19:16,440 do it you know what we did was we pawned 396 00:19:09,750 --> 00:19:20,099 my house and the office in London and to 397 00:19:16,440 --> 00:19:23,009 get a bank loan and that was a bit 398 00:19:20,099 --> 00:19:25,829 nerve-racking George put up all the 399 00:19:23,009 --> 00:19:28,650 money himself and in doing so set up the 400 00:19:25,829 --> 00:19:30,689 company handmade films that would go on 401 00:19:28,650 --> 00:19:33,960 to make Mona Lisa and a private function 402 00:19:30,690 --> 00:19:37,049 amongst others and so several months 403 00:19:33,960 --> 00:19:39,390 later than planned in September 1978 the 404 00:19:37,049 --> 00:19:42,359 41 day shoot began in monastere in 405 00:19:39,390 --> 00:19:43,830 Geneva it was decided that Terry Jones 406 00:19:42,359 --> 00:19:46,019 should direct the film with Terry 407 00:19:43,829 --> 00:19:47,819 Gilliam in charge of art direction this 408 00:19:46,019 --> 00:19:49,920 was a change from the Holy Grail film 409 00:19:47,819 --> 00:19:52,189 where both men had directed together a 410 00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:54,570 situation that had caused some tension 411 00:19:52,190 --> 00:19:56,340 they were sort of working on different 412 00:19:54,569 --> 00:19:58,139 ends of the spectrum at times and it did 413 00:19:56,339 --> 00:19:59,339 cause a fair amount of consternation by 414 00:19:58,140 --> 00:20:00,570 the time they got to Bryan I think 415 00:19:59,339 --> 00:20:01,919 everyone in the group felt that they 416 00:20:00,569 --> 00:20:02,460 couldn't have two people again calling 417 00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:04,920 the shots 418 00:20:02,460 --> 00:20:06,690 Gilliam wisely back down I think because 419 00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:08,190 by then he'd made Jabberwocky so he kind 420 00:20:06,690 --> 00:20:09,058 of felt I'm gonna go off and make my own 421 00:20:08,190 --> 00:20:10,830 movies anyway 422 00:20:09,058 --> 00:20:12,359 Terry was important to be the director 423 00:20:10,829 --> 00:20:13,849 because I would have got caught up in 424 00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:17,279 all sorts of detail that would have 425 00:20:13,849 --> 00:20:18,509 riled the others because you John didn't 426 00:20:17,279 --> 00:20:19,950 want to wear this and then you know they 427 00:20:18,509 --> 00:20:22,890 they didn't want to do all the things 428 00:20:19,950 --> 00:20:24,420 that I think are important film wearing 429 00:20:22,890 --> 00:20:26,790 uncomfortable clothes having your 430 00:20:24,420 --> 00:20:28,440 grotesque makeup all those things Terry 431 00:20:26,789 --> 00:20:30,420 and I sort of fell out at one point I 432 00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:31,769 think I said something or the stroppy to 433 00:20:30,420 --> 00:20:34,769 Terry at some point because I thought he 434 00:20:31,769 --> 00:20:37,259 was he was bending the camera man's ear 435 00:20:34,769 --> 00:20:39,029 more what I want the lovers but it's a 436 00:20:37,259 --> 00:20:40,920 sort something out 437 00:20:39,029 --> 00:20:43,410 and it took Terry long time to forgive I 438 00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:44,880 think he didn't speak to me Rover died 439 00:20:43,410 --> 00:20:46,320 and thought that for now but just think 440 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:49,620 about he you probably just kept out of 441 00:20:46,319 --> 00:20:50,819 my way it was Felix a pistol and I think 442 00:20:49,619 --> 00:20:53,308 there was a feeling right from the 443 00:20:50,819 --> 00:20:54,689 beginning and the very first scene I 444 00:20:53,308 --> 00:20:57,089 think that was shot was the stoning 445 00:20:54,690 --> 00:20:57,570 scene but this could be very funny 446 00:20:57,089 --> 00:21:02,519 indeed 447 00:20:57,569 --> 00:21:05,789 and so morale morale was high with her 448 00:21:02,519 --> 00:21:08,670 son of Deuteronomy of Gath well I say 449 00:21:05,789 --> 00:21:11,319 yes yes yes you have been found guilty 450 00:21:08,670 --> 00:21:14,890 by the elders of the town 451 00:21:11,319 --> 00:21:19,779 muttering the name of our Lord and so as 452 00:21:14,890 --> 00:21:23,920 he bless fever you are to be stoned to 453 00:21:19,779 --> 00:21:26,259 death oh look I went a lovely supper and 454 00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:31,029 all I said to my wife was that piece of 455 00:21:26,259 --> 00:21:32,980 halibut was good enough for Jeremy he 456 00:21:31,029 --> 00:21:35,680 said it again we were there on day one 457 00:21:32,980 --> 00:21:37,150 and and and and Jonesy was so well 458 00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:38,799 prepared it was shot like that I 459 00:21:37,150 --> 00:21:41,500 suddenly thought my car this is fun 460 00:21:38,799 --> 00:21:43,720 stuff my blind taxidermy the shoot 461 00:21:41,500 --> 00:21:45,789 progressed smoothly behind-the-scenes 462 00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:48,670 footage shows a relaxed group of pythons 463 00:21:45,789 --> 00:21:52,240 enjoying themselves yes it's another 464 00:21:48,670 --> 00:21:55,330 edition of Graham Chapman rests a series 465 00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:56,950 of four hundred half-hour programs which 466 00:21:55,329 --> 00:22:01,449 look at the life of a man who rests a 467 00:21:56,950 --> 00:22:03,039 lot when we're doing those crowd scenes 468 00:22:01,450 --> 00:22:05,529 where they will had shout out yeah these 469 00:22:03,039 --> 00:22:07,720 are Arab speaking crowd and some smoke 470 00:22:05,529 --> 00:22:11,289 bit of French but not English speaking 471 00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:13,990 so I assumed we'd have to dub on and 472 00:22:11,289 --> 00:22:15,569 basically I just shouted out to them 473 00:22:13,990 --> 00:22:18,220 what I wanted them chat back and 474 00:22:15,569 --> 00:22:20,649 actually everybody just shouted back or 475 00:22:18,220 --> 00:22:22,240 phonetically what I shouted at dude and 476 00:22:20,650 --> 00:22:24,450 we used the actual sound track in the 477 00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:31,529 end it was cut its head fit least on 478 00:22:24,450 --> 00:22:31,529 yourself you're all individual yes oh 479 00:22:33,150 --> 00:22:36,150 yes 480 00:22:36,269 --> 00:22:41,069 I'm not we have to midway through 481 00:22:39,069 --> 00:22:43,569 filming and in a bizarre coincidence 482 00:22:41,069 --> 00:22:46,450 Spike Milligan suddenly popped up and 483 00:22:43,569 --> 00:22:49,029 was given a cameo spike happened to be 484 00:22:46,450 --> 00:22:51,370 into knitting because he was visiting um 485 00:22:49,029 --> 00:22:53,379 the Second World War battlefields on 486 00:22:51,369 --> 00:22:55,479 which he'd fought and he suddenly turns 487 00:22:53,380 --> 00:22:57,160 up in monastere can't get a room in her 488 00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:59,110 talk to the entire Python team is there 489 00:22:57,160 --> 00:23:00,910 so he came along one morning he filmed 490 00:22:59,109 --> 00:23:01,329 his lovely little cameo they all went 491 00:23:00,910 --> 00:23:03,340 for lunch 492 00:23:01,329 --> 00:23:04,720 he just went he didn't come back and 493 00:23:03,339 --> 00:23:06,399 they had Tim scheduled for the afternoon 494 00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:08,140 for his close-ups and the rest of the 495 00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:09,430 scene but he'd gone he just had I've had 496 00:23:08,140 --> 00:23:10,480 enough of this I'm on holiday and he'd 497 00:23:09,430 --> 00:23:12,250 gone off to look at some battlefield 498 00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:14,650 somewhere but he still appears in the 499 00:23:12,250 --> 00:23:16,269 movie and it is a great link between the 500 00:23:14,650 --> 00:23:19,719 greens and the pythons 501 00:23:16,269 --> 00:23:31,209 yay he cometh to us like the siege of 502 00:23:19,719 --> 00:23:33,009 the grave the scene that would be the 503 00:23:31,209 --> 00:23:36,038 hardest to film would also be the most 504 00:23:33,009 --> 00:23:40,149 controversial the crucifixion of Brian I 505 00:23:36,038 --> 00:23:43,028 remember vividly the was on the right 506 00:23:40,148 --> 00:23:46,058 side shooting that in this is requite a 507 00:23:43,028 --> 00:23:48,009 weird place and arriving there on the 508 00:23:46,058 --> 00:23:51,098 morning of a shoot and seeing all these 509 00:23:48,009 --> 00:23:53,979 crosses up on my horizon that was kind 510 00:23:51,098 --> 00:23:56,858 of a weird moment and you kind of 511 00:23:53,979 --> 00:23:58,629 wondered where quite how people would 512 00:23:56,858 --> 00:24:01,598 respond to that because you know the 513 00:23:58,628 --> 00:24:03,638 images were so strong and and and the 514 00:24:01,598 --> 00:24:07,028 idea that it became a song and dance 515 00:24:03,638 --> 00:24:10,058 number I like remember Eric singing this 516 00:24:07,028 --> 00:24:13,808 song to us seeing the end song to us in 517 00:24:10,058 --> 00:24:18,878 the hotel I think cheer up one you know 518 00:24:13,808 --> 00:24:22,118 as I say some things Eli forbade they 519 00:24:18,878 --> 00:24:25,478 can really made you made other things 520 00:24:22,118 --> 00:24:27,939 just might you swear and curse when 521 00:24:25,479 --> 00:24:32,229 you're chewing on life's gristle back 522 00:24:27,940 --> 00:24:38,889 humble give a whistle and this'll help 523 00:24:32,229 --> 00:24:42,009 bees turn out for the bass I always look 524 00:24:38,888 --> 00:24:46,569 on the bright side of life 525 00:24:42,009 --> 00:24:48,969 I wasn't overdressed but we didn't have 526 00:24:46,569 --> 00:24:49,689 any other ending so they thought it'd be 527 00:24:48,969 --> 00:24:51,639 quite funny 528 00:24:49,690 --> 00:24:53,048 okay they also had the problem of 529 00:24:51,638 --> 00:24:54,488 actually filming it it's very difficult 530 00:24:53,048 --> 00:24:56,138 to bring stuff I came across one can 531 00:24:54,489 --> 00:24:57,519 emerges happy they were actually open 532 00:24:56,138 --> 00:24:59,498 the crosses for three days and there's a 533 00:24:57,519 --> 00:25:01,959 lot of time and dancing it had little 534 00:24:59,499 --> 00:25:03,098 platform for the feet just on the middle 535 00:25:01,959 --> 00:25:04,690 of the cross and the force a hidden 536 00:25:03,098 --> 00:25:06,189 bicycle seat that they could sort of 537 00:25:04,690 --> 00:25:08,649 perch on while they were up there that's 538 00:25:06,190 --> 00:25:12,119 the thing about four of us who were 539 00:25:08,648 --> 00:25:14,498 slightly tended to have chest problems 540 00:25:12,118 --> 00:25:16,058 got really quite sick and I remember 541 00:25:14,499 --> 00:25:17,379 thinking the day I was crucified you 542 00:25:16,058 --> 00:25:20,210 know I was looking forward to being 543 00:25:17,378 --> 00:25:23,389 crucified be crucified when you got 544 00:25:20,210 --> 00:25:25,579 I always just thought it'd be friendly 545 00:25:23,390 --> 00:25:27,100 having a song-and-dance routine on what 546 00:25:25,579 --> 00:25:29,720 across it 547 00:25:27,099 --> 00:25:33,230 nobody's tied to this place they can't 548 00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:36,200 move it was a wonderful bit of work by 549 00:25:33,230 --> 00:25:37,819 Eric that song so I think in a way we 550 00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:39,890 were all in our different ways working 551 00:25:37,819 --> 00:25:43,159 at our best certainly gray was at his 552 00:25:39,890 --> 00:25:45,470 best as an actor I was performing well 553 00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:48,980 Eric was in good form 554 00:25:45,470 --> 00:25:50,509 Michael's superb terry gilliam made the 555 00:25:48,980 --> 00:25:52,190 film look good and Terry Jones was 556 00:25:50,509 --> 00:25:53,450 absolutely on top of his game as a 557 00:25:52,190 --> 00:25:54,470 director so it was just one of those 558 00:25:53,450 --> 00:25:57,289 moments when it all comes together 559 00:25:54,470 --> 00:25:59,180 usually a movies all falls apart the 560 00:25:57,289 --> 00:26:01,099 shoot was completed and Terry Jones 561 00:25:59,180 --> 00:26:03,049 began to edit the film in preparation 562 00:26:01,099 --> 00:26:05,839 for life of Bryan's sheduled release a 563 00:26:03,049 --> 00:26:07,460 few months later but done banants to the 564 00:26:05,839 --> 00:26:09,559 film crew the secret was already out 565 00:26:07,460 --> 00:26:12,319 because there was a traitor within its 566 00:26:09,559 --> 00:26:14,359 ranks someone had sent 11 pages of the 567 00:26:12,319 --> 00:26:17,240 script to Mary Whitehouse and the 568 00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:20,299 festival of light the nationwide 569 00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:22,099 festival of light obtained the script 570 00:26:20,299 --> 00:26:23,000 from somewhere I've no I have no 571 00:26:22,099 --> 00:26:25,219 knowledge of that 572 00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:27,170 the fact that they got the script means 573 00:26:25,220 --> 00:26:30,049 that somebody must have sent it to them 574 00:26:27,170 --> 00:26:31,820 that was associated with the film the 575 00:26:30,049 --> 00:26:33,649 festival of light were appalled and 576 00:26:31,819 --> 00:26:35,899 wrote a letter to the British Board of 577 00:26:33,650 --> 00:26:37,820 Film classification urging them to think 578 00:26:35,900 --> 00:26:40,910 of the consequences of allowing the film 579 00:26:37,819 --> 00:26:42,679 to be shown it ended I need not remind 580 00:26:40,910 --> 00:26:45,890 you of the wider implications of 581 00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:48,590 scurrilous abuse of God Christ or the 582 00:26:45,890 --> 00:26:50,900 Bible the lines were drawn for one of 583 00:26:48,589 --> 00:26:53,259 the great cultural battles of modern 584 00:26:50,900 --> 00:26:53,259 times 585 00:28:39,749 --> 00:28:45,368 April 1979 while Terry Jones was working 586 00:28:43,450 --> 00:28:46,960 hard to finish life of brian the 587 00:28:45,368 --> 00:28:50,048 festival of light began their crusade 588 00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:53,440 against it they obviously don't like 589 00:28:50,048 --> 00:28:56,558 what they read but they realized that if 590 00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:57,659 they go for this in a big way then that 591 00:28:56,558 --> 00:29:01,450 may be counterproductive 592 00:28:57,659 --> 00:29:04,629 so what they do is they adopt this kind 593 00:29:01,450 --> 00:29:08,200 of low-profile somewhat insidious 594 00:29:04,628 --> 00:29:12,728 campaign of saying oh let's all pray for 595 00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:14,739 the failure of Life of Brian the 596 00:29:12,729 --> 00:29:16,690 festival of light and Mary Whitehouse in 597 00:29:14,739 --> 00:29:18,909 particular was on the warpath 598 00:29:16,690 --> 00:29:21,580 the Python team was staring a possible 599 00:29:18,909 --> 00:29:23,499 prosecution for blasphemy in the face so 600 00:29:21,579 --> 00:29:26,949 sought the advice of John Mortimer the 601 00:29:23,499 --> 00:29:28,960 lawyer who defended gay news they sought 602 00:29:26,950 --> 00:29:30,999 legal advice from he because I suppose 603 00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:32,769 because I'd done the blasphemy trial and 604 00:29:30,999 --> 00:29:36,220 I think it was quite brave I think it 605 00:29:32,769 --> 00:29:38,229 still is quite brave and they came to 606 00:29:36,220 --> 00:29:41,200 see me and I saw the film which I 607 00:29:38,229 --> 00:29:45,999 thought riotously funny and it remains 608 00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:48,369 one of my favorite funny films and and I 609 00:29:45,999 --> 00:29:50,470 gave it a legal opinion it was one 610 00:29:48,368 --> 00:29:54,098 rather dangerous point where Michael 611 00:29:50,470 --> 00:29:56,950 Palin was was a leper and he was cured 612 00:29:54,098 --> 00:30:00,608 by Jesus he was very angry said oh 613 00:29:56,950 --> 00:30:03,009 bloody do-gooder okay oh Jesus pizza I 614 00:30:00,608 --> 00:30:05,589 was hopping along on my own business all 615 00:30:03,009 --> 00:30:06,819 of a sudden a becomes yours me one 616 00:30:05,589 --> 00:30:08,348 minute I'm a leper with a fight next 617 00:30:06,819 --> 00:30:10,628 minute my love dudes gone it's not so 618 00:30:08,348 --> 00:30:12,519 much as a by-your-leave Yorkshire night 619 00:30:10,628 --> 00:30:14,259 but he do good uh-oh 620 00:30:12,519 --> 00:30:17,499 the Pythons decided to keep the 621 00:30:14,259 --> 00:30:21,940 character in but another called otto was 622 00:30:17,499 --> 00:30:24,460 right on the edge otto was a jewish Nazi 623 00:30:21,940 --> 00:30:27,129 now this really was quite delicate 624 00:30:24,460 --> 00:30:28,509 territory it's right on the edge again 625 00:30:27,128 --> 00:30:30,158 you're saying things you're not supposed 626 00:30:28,509 --> 00:30:32,858 to say this time not about Christians 627 00:30:30,159 --> 00:30:35,320 what about Jews and Israel important 628 00:30:32,858 --> 00:30:38,439 stuff to say because it's it it's a 629 00:30:35,319 --> 00:30:40,839 cutting through the hypocrisy in one 630 00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:42,999 particular scene Otto talked to Brian 631 00:30:40,839 --> 00:30:46,738 about setting up a racially pure all 632 00:30:42,999 --> 00:30:49,480 Jewish community it was a problem 633 00:30:46,739 --> 00:30:50,740 character because 634 00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:52,269 of course this is not the sort of 635 00:30:50,740 --> 00:30:55,509 character that would appeal to an 636 00:30:52,269 --> 00:30:58,720 American film distributor where the 637 00:30:55,509 --> 00:31:01,569 Jewish lobby is very strong the auto 638 00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:03,160 story line had to go the only remnant in 639 00:31:01,569 --> 00:31:06,460 the finished film is his very brief 640 00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:08,919 appearance at Brian's crucifixion deck 641 00:31:06,460 --> 00:31:11,890 you may remember that does this run a 642 00:31:08,919 --> 00:31:15,070 strange bunch of sort of samurai looking 643 00:31:11,890 --> 00:31:16,000 people who turn up at the end and commit 644 00:31:15,069 --> 00:31:18,819 suicide 645 00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:20,470 that showed him huh I'm still not 646 00:31:18,819 --> 00:31:22,298 convinced cutting it out was the right 647 00:31:20,470 --> 00:31:24,429 things I I think that seems really 648 00:31:22,298 --> 00:31:26,349 important they obviously we're points 649 00:31:24,429 --> 00:31:30,548 which a prosecutor would make much show 650 00:31:26,349 --> 00:31:33,250 but our advice about the whole film was 651 00:31:30,548 --> 00:31:34,690 really founded on telling the court the 652 00:31:33,250 --> 00:31:37,298 bride and Jesus were two different 653 00:31:34,690 --> 00:31:39,759 people and that Jesus appears in the 654 00:31:37,298 --> 00:31:41,829 film was a separate character now well 655 00:31:39,759 --> 00:31:43,660 that's a very convincing defense I don't 656 00:31:41,829 --> 00:31:47,649 know but luckily we never had to try 657 00:31:43,660 --> 00:31:50,169 that life of brian was completed the 658 00:31:47,650 --> 00:31:51,970 Pythons set out for America it had been 659 00:31:50,169 --> 00:31:54,280 decided to open the film their first 660 00:31:51,970 --> 00:31:56,380 home as it was to freedom of speech the 661 00:31:54,279 --> 00:31:58,859 Constitution and perhaps even more 662 00:31:56,380 --> 00:32:01,630 helpfully not home to any blasphemy laws 663 00:31:58,859 --> 00:32:06,339 the world premiere was set for New York 664 00:32:01,630 --> 00:32:07,740 on August the 17th 1979 I just know it 665 00:32:06,339 --> 00:32:10,418 was gonna be fun 666 00:32:07,740 --> 00:32:12,759 and and it was they didn't let us down 667 00:32:10,419 --> 00:32:14,679 they were out there parading marching 668 00:32:12,759 --> 00:32:16,690 screaming and shouting you know just 669 00:32:14,679 --> 00:32:19,360 like what would expect but it seemed odd 670 00:32:16,690 --> 00:32:22,929 when the film came out that the the 671 00:32:19,359 --> 00:32:25,298 first group to complain about it was the 672 00:32:22,929 --> 00:32:26,950 group that we'd never actioned with what 673 00:32:25,298 --> 00:32:29,019 everybody complained about at all 674 00:32:26,950 --> 00:32:31,480 that was the it was the New York 675 00:32:29,019 --> 00:32:34,418 association of rabbis and we thought 676 00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:36,569 well why are they complaining oh the 677 00:32:34,419 --> 00:32:38,559 magic Christians can play it even rabbis 678 00:32:36,569 --> 00:32:40,240 and anyway they were complaining about 679 00:32:38,558 --> 00:32:42,490 the use of the prayer shawl in the 680 00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:43,990 stoning sequence which showing me the 681 00:32:42,490 --> 00:32:46,210 night was the prayer shawl we just 682 00:32:43,990 --> 00:32:47,710 thought it was a bit of costume so when 683 00:32:46,210 --> 00:32:49,779 you're treading on delicate ground you 684 00:32:47,710 --> 00:32:53,500 never know what you're going to be 685 00:32:49,779 --> 00:32:55,839 offending Rabbi Abraham Hecht was quoted 686 00:32:53,500 --> 00:32:58,210 in the trade paper variety accusing the 687 00:32:55,839 --> 00:33:01,349 film of being blasphemous sacrilegious 688 00:32:58,210 --> 00:33:03,200 and an incitement to possible violence 689 00:33:01,349 --> 00:33:05,659 they knew they were 690 00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:08,509 in for a rough ride because they'd been 691 00:33:05,660 --> 00:33:12,800 told they must all make a will before 692 00:33:08,509 --> 00:33:15,799 they went to New York since they had no 693 00:33:12,799 --> 00:33:20,899 idea whether they'd someone take a shot 694 00:33:15,799 --> 00:33:23,059 at them or not a group of rabbis and 695 00:33:20,900 --> 00:33:25,220 priests held demonstrations over this 696 00:33:23,059 --> 00:33:27,139 past weekend and they were demonstrating 697 00:33:25,220 --> 00:33:29,000 against a movie called The Life of Brian 698 00:33:27,140 --> 00:33:31,130 for the new Maude a Python film is 699 00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:33,109 entitled The Life of Brian it is a spoof 700 00:33:31,130 --> 00:33:34,760 of the life of Christ and has managed to 701 00:33:33,109 --> 00:33:37,039 offend just about every religious group 702 00:33:34,759 --> 00:33:38,930 in this city Monty Python's Life of 703 00:33:37,039 --> 00:33:40,009 Brian a film attracting much attention 704 00:33:38,930 --> 00:33:41,090 today outside the Warner Brothers 705 00:33:40,009 --> 00:33:42,859 building in Rockefeller Center 706 00:33:41,089 --> 00:33:45,230 demonstrators gathered to call the film 707 00:33:42,859 --> 00:33:46,879 blasphemous Catholic Jewish Greek 708 00:33:45,230 --> 00:33:49,069 Orthodox and Protestant religious 709 00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:51,410 leaders all condemned the film New York 710 00:33:49,069 --> 00:33:52,879 archdiocese officially on record against 711 00:33:51,410 --> 00:33:56,380 it I mean it wasn't a great surprise 712 00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:56,380 that there were going to be people who 713 00:33:56,799 --> 00:34:01,490 disliked the film because we knew that 714 00:33:59,690 --> 00:34:04,910 there were certain people whom the Bible 715 00:34:01,490 --> 00:34:06,769 story was untouchable at one famous 716 00:34:04,910 --> 00:34:08,900 demonstration in New York the reverend 717 00:34:06,769 --> 00:34:11,690 roger fulton referred to the makers of 718 00:34:08,900 --> 00:34:14,660 the film as monty snake people who he 719 00:34:11,690 --> 00:34:18,260 said needed a new heart a new soul and a 720 00:34:14,659 --> 00:34:20,480 new spirit I think what really worried 721 00:34:18,260 --> 00:34:24,410 Roger Fulton was actually British humour 722 00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:25,849 because while he could as a as a 723 00:34:24,409 --> 00:34:28,069 believing Christian make all these 724 00:34:25,849 --> 00:34:30,199 objections to the alleged blasphemy in 725 00:34:28,070 --> 00:34:31,640 the film what really I think got up his 726 00:34:30,199 --> 00:34:33,409 nose is the fact that here were all 727 00:34:31,639 --> 00:34:35,719 these men dressed as women you've got to 728 00:34:33,409 --> 00:34:38,779 remember that Christianity in America is 729 00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:41,299 mainly about sex there's so deeply 730 00:34:38,780 --> 00:34:45,010 uncomfortable about every aspect of sex 731 00:34:41,300 --> 00:34:48,350 that they don't much care about wars or 732 00:34:45,010 --> 00:34:50,120 destroying the environment or financial 733 00:34:48,349 --> 00:34:52,130 corruption or anything to do with sex 734 00:34:50,119 --> 00:34:53,960 sets of all and it's because these 735 00:34:52,130 --> 00:34:55,910 people are operating at a very very low 736 00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:58,400 level of mental health they are 737 00:34:55,909 --> 00:35:00,079 incapable of understanding the teachings 738 00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:02,420 so understand the majority of the 739 00:35:00,079 --> 00:35:04,818 religious 740 00:35:02,420 --> 00:35:06,409 reaction against the film was from 741 00:35:04,818 --> 00:35:08,179 people who hadn't seen the film this is 742 00:35:06,409 --> 00:35:10,190 what makes me crazy is his ability to 743 00:35:08,179 --> 00:35:13,399 just close say no don't even look at 744 00:35:10,190 --> 00:35:14,869 that don't even think about it that it's 745 00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:17,389 a way of keeping people you know 746 00:35:14,869 --> 00:35:19,818 ignorant under control and not thinking 747 00:35:17,389 --> 00:35:21,108 and I think with Python one of the 748 00:35:19,818 --> 00:35:22,929 things I thought we were all pretty 749 00:35:21,108 --> 00:35:25,639 proud of is trying to make people think 750 00:35:22,929 --> 00:35:27,558 the u.s. protests and marches only 751 00:35:25,639 --> 00:35:30,500 served to heighten media profile and 752 00:35:27,559 --> 00:35:32,119 increased takings the original plan to 753 00:35:30,500 --> 00:35:34,400 open Brian on two hundred screens 754 00:35:32,119 --> 00:35:36,619 nationwide snowballed to near a six 755 00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:39,079 hundred certain states banned the film 756 00:35:36,619 --> 00:35:41,450 especially in the Bible Belt which only 757 00:35:39,079 --> 00:35:43,220 fanned the flames more Life of Brian 758 00:35:41,449 --> 00:35:47,689 would eventually take over twenty 759 00:35:43,219 --> 00:35:49,788 million dollars in the US alone back in 760 00:35:47,690 --> 00:35:51,588 the UK the word about life of Brian was 761 00:35:49,789 --> 00:35:52,880 spreading and although the film wouldn't 762 00:35:51,588 --> 00:35:56,108 be on general release until the 763 00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:58,490 following year on November the 9th 1979 764 00:35:56,108 --> 00:36:00,650 John Cleese and Michael Palin were 765 00:35:58,489 --> 00:36:03,229 invited to appear on a late-night BBC 766 00:36:00,650 --> 00:36:05,088 Two discussion programme to debate the 767 00:36:03,230 --> 00:36:07,219 film in the presence of Mervyn Stockwood 768 00:36:05,088 --> 00:36:08,960 the Bishop of Civic and Malcolm 769 00:36:07,219 --> 00:36:12,348 Muggeridge born-again Christian and 770 00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:14,900 well-known friend of Mary the stage was 771 00:36:12,349 --> 00:36:15,579 set for one of TV's all-time great ding 772 00:36:14,900 --> 00:36:17,660 dongs 773 00:36:15,579 --> 00:36:20,778 it was obvious going to be quite a heavy 774 00:36:17,659 --> 00:36:25,009 interview perhaps the most the strongest 775 00:36:20,778 --> 00:36:26,989 criticism we we would face and John and 776 00:36:25,009 --> 00:36:28,579 I I mean I remember actually czar 777 00:36:26,989 --> 00:36:30,889 mugging up for it like for an exam you 778 00:36:28,579 --> 00:36:32,539 know going through my books and yes for 779 00:36:30,889 --> 00:36:35,179 getting all the arguments together when 780 00:36:32,539 --> 00:36:36,950 I look at their figure I mean I know 781 00:36:35,179 --> 00:36:39,230 you're going to play rounders and Jesus 782 00:36:36,949 --> 00:36:42,439 but I mean that's that's rubbish the it 783 00:36:39,230 --> 00:36:44,750 was the her thing is quite clearly had 784 00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:46,579 know Jesus had lived their film wouldn't 785 00:36:44,750 --> 00:36:48,199 have been produced the bishops sitting 786 00:36:46,579 --> 00:36:50,240 in always purple with the world's 787 00:36:48,199 --> 00:36:52,699 biggest silver crucifix I've never seen 788 00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:54,919 one so big fingering it and the voices 789 00:36:52,699 --> 00:36:57,379 were all Headmaster's voices and they're 790 00:36:54,920 --> 00:37:01,519 all dignified but I come back to say 791 00:36:57,380 --> 00:37:03,259 that this is not us really cooling of 792 00:37:01,518 --> 00:37:08,028 the founder of the Christian religion 793 00:37:03,259 --> 00:37:10,909 and of the Incarnation in an extremely 794 00:37:08,028 --> 00:37:13,099 chic intense rate way Muggeridge and 795 00:37:10,909 --> 00:37:15,529 until he was 60 was a well-known 796 00:37:13,099 --> 00:37:18,200 womanizer and drinker 797 00:37:15,530 --> 00:37:19,760 and I expect to some extent he only got 798 00:37:18,199 --> 00:37:22,939 religion after he couldn't do anything 799 00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:27,320 else and momen Stockwood was was a 800 00:37:22,940 --> 00:37:30,050 homosexual as everybody knew and also as 801 00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:32,090 it happens a heavy drinker as it went on 802 00:37:30,050 --> 00:37:33,769 an extraordinary thing happened was that 803 00:37:32,090 --> 00:37:34,940 we were the ones with the serious points 804 00:37:33,769 --> 00:37:36,349 and they were the ones who are playing 805 00:37:34,940 --> 00:37:39,500 to the crowd 806 00:37:36,349 --> 00:37:41,360 I said no think it was worth it was the 807 00:37:39,500 --> 00:37:43,550 sort of thing as I say that at Cambridge 808 00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:47,120 the footlights did on a damp Tuesday 809 00:37:43,550 --> 00:37:49,760 afternoon or the layer fourth of an idle 810 00:37:47,119 --> 00:37:52,190 schoolmaster you keep making the basic 811 00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:55,880 assumption that we are ridiculing Christ 812 00:37:52,190 --> 00:37:57,470 and Christ's teaching and I say that we 813 00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:59,300 are not but do you imagine that your 814 00:37:57,469 --> 00:38:01,939 scene for instance of the Sermon on the 815 00:37:59,300 --> 00:38:03,920 Mount the scene in this in your your 816 00:38:01,940 --> 00:38:05,929 film of the Sermon on the Mount is not 817 00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:07,970 ridiculing one of the most sublime 818 00:38:05,929 --> 00:38:10,190 utterances that any human being has ever 819 00:38:07,969 --> 00:38:11,929 spoken on this earth of course it is no 820 00:38:10,190 --> 00:38:13,429 no it's making fun of the guy who's 821 00:38:11,929 --> 00:38:14,929 remembered it wrong and of the people 822 00:38:13,429 --> 00:38:16,519 who don't understand it missed the point 823 00:38:14,929 --> 00:38:17,629 where I think I think that's really 824 00:38:16,519 --> 00:38:18,920 unfair because I think that a lot of 825 00:38:17,630 --> 00:38:21,140 people looking in will think that we 826 00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:23,269 have we have actually ridiculed Christ 827 00:38:21,139 --> 00:38:25,900 yes physically Christ is played by an 828 00:38:23,269 --> 00:38:28,039 actor Kent Colley he speaks the words 829 00:38:25,900 --> 00:38:29,630 from the Sermon on the Mount he's 830 00:38:28,039 --> 00:38:31,279 treated absolutely respectfully the 831 00:38:29,630 --> 00:38:33,260 camera then pans away we go right to the 832 00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:36,830 back of the crowd to someone who sharps 833 00:38:33,260 --> 00:38:37,430 speak up because they come out here that 834 00:38:36,829 --> 00:38:39,259 utterly 835 00:38:37,429 --> 00:38:41,029 no no that's not really undermine their 836 00:38:39,260 --> 00:38:43,190 disease in Christ Chris effect no 837 00:38:41,030 --> 00:38:45,530 because you say I started off by saying 838 00:38:43,190 --> 00:38:46,820 that this is such a tenth-grade film 839 00:38:45,530 --> 00:38:49,010 that I don't believe that it would 840 00:38:46,820 --> 00:38:51,370 disturb anybody the living mind I 841 00:38:49,010 --> 00:38:51,370 realized 842 00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:59,338 I've never been so sort of angry in 843 00:38:57,059 --> 00:39:01,769 public before I don't think I just it 844 00:38:59,338 --> 00:39:05,278 was just the way they dealt with it them 845 00:39:01,769 --> 00:39:06,659 that the sort of venom used just just 846 00:39:05,278 --> 00:39:10,019 because they like the sound of the word 847 00:39:06,659 --> 00:39:12,210 I was aware mica was steaming but I was 848 00:39:10,019 --> 00:39:15,329 kind of enjoying it because they'd be 849 00:39:12,210 --> 00:39:17,519 annoyed me and I reckoned that we were 850 00:39:15,329 --> 00:39:19,589 nailing I thought we were winning all 851 00:39:17,519 --> 00:39:22,528 you've done is to make a lot of people 852 00:39:19,588 --> 00:39:26,909 all across seeing a music music hold 853 00:39:22,528 --> 00:39:29,068 song leave so discuss can I shake a bit 854 00:39:26,909 --> 00:39:30,719 a lot of people go away very happy 855 00:39:29,068 --> 00:39:33,409 laughing at that their faiths not 856 00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:41,219 touched one Jaden I really do feel like 857 00:39:33,409 --> 00:39:45,389 I had quotes in my pocket from Malcolm 858 00:39:41,219 --> 00:39:47,730 that absolutely validated our position 859 00:39:45,389 --> 00:39:50,519 and destroyed his earth and out of 860 00:39:47,730 --> 00:39:52,409 kindness I didn't pull them out and read 861 00:39:50,519 --> 00:39:54,298 them out cuz I was feeling kind of sorry 862 00:39:52,409 --> 00:39:57,449 for is that unbelievable you have 863 00:39:54,298 --> 00:40:00,028 succeeded in reducing something which 864 00:39:57,449 --> 00:40:02,429 has inspired the greatest art into 865 00:40:00,028 --> 00:40:04,528 something which is presented in terms of 866 00:40:02,429 --> 00:40:06,088 the lowest art if you let your feet then 867 00:40:04,528 --> 00:40:07,469 you might on your own terms that we have 868 00:40:06,088 --> 00:40:08,818 to influence people we're not saying we 869 00:40:07,469 --> 00:40:10,949 want to infinity you're trying to make 870 00:40:08,818 --> 00:40:12,420 them laugh make it unhappy I mean it's a 871 00:40:10,949 --> 00:40:15,269 hits that's something that helped 872 00:40:12,420 --> 00:40:17,519 Jasmine have a collaboration words and 873 00:40:15,269 --> 00:40:19,949 just as it was being wound up Mervin the 874 00:40:17,519 --> 00:40:22,409 bishop delivered his PS terezi starts I 875 00:40:19,949 --> 00:40:24,689 can't you'll get your 30 pieces you'll 876 00:40:22,409 --> 00:40:27,088 get your 30 pieces of soap right I like 877 00:40:24,690 --> 00:40:29,159 right sure I hasten for those of you who 878 00:40:27,088 --> 00:40:31,230 didn't attend Sunday school this is a 879 00:40:29,159 --> 00:40:33,538 biblical quote and refers to the money 880 00:40:31,230 --> 00:40:36,409 that Judas was paid to betray Jesus 881 00:40:33,539 --> 00:40:36,410 Christ 882 00:40:36,670 --> 00:40:41,559 days later the show not the 9 o'clock 883 00:40:39,349 --> 00:40:44,000 news would send up the whole encounter 884 00:40:41,559 --> 00:40:46,009 effectively turning the tables with 885 00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:48,619 Rowan Atkinson as a bishop who had made 886 00:40:46,010 --> 00:40:50,690 a film based on the life of John Lee I 887 00:40:48,619 --> 00:40:52,639 mean I actually find it deeply offensive 888 00:40:50,690 --> 00:40:54,940 that in a country that is still 889 00:40:52,639 --> 00:40:57,980 ostensibly a Python worshipping comic 890 00:40:54,940 --> 00:41:00,079 but a 14-year old child can actually get 891 00:40:57,980 --> 00:41:01,789 in to see this I mean there is there is 892 00:41:00,079 --> 00:41:03,710 little enough proper Python around these 893 00:41:01,789 --> 00:41:06,349 days without parading this distorted 894 00:41:03,710 --> 00:41:07,730 garbage about Bishop you directed the 895 00:41:06,349 --> 00:41:11,599 film did you expect this kind of 896 00:41:07,730 --> 00:41:18,860 reaction well well I certainly didn't 897 00:41:11,599 --> 00:41:20,900 expect the Spanish Inquisition in the UK 898 00:41:18,860 --> 00:41:22,970 the British Board of Film censors passed 899 00:41:20,900 --> 00:41:25,070 life of Bryan uncut with an A a 900 00:41:22,969 --> 00:41:28,039 certificate meaning that anyone over the 901 00:41:25,070 --> 00:41:30,050 age of 14 could see it this despite the 902 00:41:28,039 --> 00:41:33,860 lobbying from the festival of light who 903 00:41:30,050 --> 00:41:35,539 had pushed for an outright ban but that 904 00:41:33,860 --> 00:41:37,970 didn't mean the UK release of Life of 905 00:41:35,539 --> 00:41:39,920 Brian would be problem-free since it was 906 00:41:37,969 --> 00:41:42,019 up to councils to decide whether to show 907 00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:43,849 the film or not and the festival of 908 00:41:42,019 --> 00:41:47,559 light now began to write letters to them 909 00:41:43,849 --> 00:41:47,559 still pressing for a ban 910 00:41:47,570 --> 00:41:52,519 if you've got the festival of light 911 00:41:49,579 --> 00:41:54,829 causing trouble if you've got some 912 00:41:52,519 --> 00:41:57,889 fairly conservative views in your local 913 00:41:54,829 --> 00:42:02,539 area that it is quite possible for any 914 00:41:57,889 --> 00:42:07,159 local authority to call in the film view 915 00:42:02,539 --> 00:42:09,980 it and say no it can't go on in our 916 00:42:07,159 --> 00:42:13,969 cinema or to demand that it should be 917 00:42:09,980 --> 00:42:15,559 reclassified and it worked the film was 918 00:42:13,969 --> 00:42:19,569 banned in places like East Devon 919 00:42:15,559 --> 00:42:21,949 Cornwall Swansea and here in Harrogate 920 00:42:19,570 --> 00:42:24,980 Council Hitchin why have you banned the 921 00:42:21,949 --> 00:42:27,409 life of Brian because from what we heard 922 00:42:24,980 --> 00:42:31,099 about it we think that it's going to be 923 00:42:27,409 --> 00:42:31,789 an extremely offensive film on religious 924 00:42:31,099 --> 00:42:33,980 grounds 925 00:42:31,789 --> 00:42:36,590 now you've not actually seen the film we 926 00:42:33,980 --> 00:42:38,750 haven't what reports have you had of it 927 00:42:36,590 --> 00:42:40,850 where of those reports come from the 928 00:42:38,750 --> 00:42:46,059 reports have come from the festival of 929 00:42:40,849 --> 00:42:49,699 light and they have told us of the 930 00:42:46,059 --> 00:42:52,369 attitude of the American Catholic Church 931 00:42:49,699 --> 00:42:54,469 and the American Jewish Church what do 932 00:42:52,369 --> 00:42:56,989 you know about the festival of lights 933 00:42:54,469 --> 00:42:59,449 yourself nothing what we said was that 934 00:42:56,989 --> 00:43:01,729 if you feel strongly about this film you 935 00:42:59,449 --> 00:43:03,949 what you have to do is you exercise your 936 00:43:01,730 --> 00:43:05,750 democratic rights and write to your 937 00:43:03,949 --> 00:43:08,629 local councillors who have authority 938 00:43:05,750 --> 00:43:11,329 over the cinemas and who can either 939 00:43:08,630 --> 00:43:13,970 reclassify our film or conclude that 940 00:43:11,329 --> 00:43:17,389 it's not appropriate for your area the 941 00:43:13,969 --> 00:43:19,009 classic kind of ignorant response to 942 00:43:17,389 --> 00:43:21,170 this was the counselor who said he 943 00:43:19,010 --> 00:43:23,930 didn't have to see the film because you 944 00:43:21,170 --> 00:43:27,200 know you don't have to see a pigsty to 945 00:43:23,929 --> 00:43:28,639 know that it stinks Mary white has Lord 946 00:43:27,199 --> 00:43:30,409 Longford a few other people had a 947 00:43:28,639 --> 00:43:32,150 phenomenal power at that time they 948 00:43:30,409 --> 00:43:34,309 really frightened the politicians they 949 00:43:32,150 --> 00:43:36,050 could organize big demonstrations they 950 00:43:34,309 --> 00:43:37,969 could particularly intimidate local 951 00:43:36,050 --> 00:43:39,710 politicians they could get a grip on 952 00:43:37,969 --> 00:43:41,869 local councils and that's of course 953 00:43:39,710 --> 00:43:43,909 where films were censored and it was 954 00:43:41,869 --> 00:43:45,739 very effective campaign and pretty 955 00:43:43,909 --> 00:43:47,269 dreadful for filmmakers it was appalling 956 00:43:45,739 --> 00:43:49,009 the life of Brian couldn't be seen 957 00:43:47,269 --> 00:43:51,380 everywhere what I was proud about 958 00:43:49,010 --> 00:43:53,390 England was that where it was banned in 959 00:43:51,380 --> 00:43:54,950 different communities you know people 960 00:43:53,389 --> 00:43:56,359 would organize Shera bank parties and go 961 00:43:54,949 --> 00:43:58,039 to the communities where you could see 962 00:43:56,360 --> 00:44:01,360 it at the English good for them they're 963 00:43:58,039 --> 00:44:01,360 not going to be told what to think 964 00:44:02,050 --> 00:44:06,680 where life of Brian was allowed to be 965 00:44:04,489 --> 00:44:08,959 shown the religious protests continued 966 00:44:06,679 --> 00:44:10,669 to keep up the pressure in Liverpool 967 00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:12,559 leaflets were handed out by the city's 968 00:44:10,670 --> 00:44:14,809 mission pointing out to the audience 969 00:44:12,559 --> 00:44:17,420 some of the lies as they saw it that the 970 00:44:14,809 --> 00:44:20,179 film contained including number four a 971 00:44:17,420 --> 00:44:22,610 blind man testifying to healing promptly 972 00:44:20,179 --> 00:44:31,809 falls into a pit denying the reality of 973 00:44:22,610 --> 00:44:31,809 our Lord's miracles blind now I can see 974 00:44:33,130 --> 00:44:37,910 and the most offensive part of the film 975 00:44:36,289 --> 00:44:40,909 from the Christian communities point of 976 00:44:37,909 --> 00:44:43,549 view was very definitely the crucifixion 977 00:44:40,909 --> 00:44:46,069 they're insulting the Savior that we 978 00:44:43,550 --> 00:44:48,470 love who shed his blood for us who died 979 00:44:46,070 --> 00:44:52,220 for us and this is what is all about to 980 00:44:48,469 --> 00:44:54,109 treat crucifixion I think as a sort of 981 00:44:52,219 --> 00:44:57,469 jolly boys outing I think that that 982 00:44:54,110 --> 00:44:59,840 really is something that I felt was 983 00:44:57,469 --> 00:45:02,989 really offensive I have no sympathy 984 00:44:59,840 --> 00:45:06,289 whatsoever any religion that makes a 985 00:45:02,989 --> 00:45:08,839 form of torture into an icon that they 986 00:45:06,289 --> 00:45:10,550 worship seems to me a pretty six or a 987 00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:13,490 religion quite honestly what do they do 988 00:45:10,550 --> 00:45:16,039 in the Christian Church they have Christ 989 00:45:13,489 --> 00:45:18,409 on the cross a crucifix what is that if 990 00:45:16,039 --> 00:45:20,059 it's not a graven image it might have 991 00:45:18,409 --> 00:45:22,190 been tricky to see Life of Brian in 992 00:45:20,059 --> 00:45:24,500 certain parts of the UK but in Norway it 993 00:45:22,190 --> 00:45:26,210 was banned completely he had to go to 994 00:45:24,500 --> 00:45:28,789 Sweden if he wanted to see it where 995 00:45:26,210 --> 00:45:29,449 cinemas proudly proclaimed this film is 996 00:45:28,789 --> 00:45:33,009 so funny 997 00:45:29,449 --> 00:45:33,009 they banned it in Norway 998 00:46:43,300 --> 00:46:48,170 despite the protests and the band's life 999 00:46:46,340 --> 00:46:51,110 of brian went on to take four million 1000 00:46:48,170 --> 00:46:53,289 pounds in the UK alone and provide some 1001 00:46:51,110 --> 00:46:56,690 of the most iconic comedy scenes 1002 00:46:53,289 --> 00:47:00,619 crucifixion yes good out of the door 1003 00:46:56,690 --> 00:47:02,480 line on the left one cross each next or 1004 00:47:00,619 --> 00:47:04,940 Ivan apart from the Sanitation the 1005 00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:07,429 medicine education wine public order 1006 00:47:04,940 --> 00:47:10,039 irrigation pros a fresh water system and 1007 00:47:07,429 --> 00:47:17,029 public health what are the Romans ever 1008 00:47:10,039 --> 00:47:23,210 done for us people of Jerusalem well is 1009 00:47:17,030 --> 00:47:24,980 your friend beloved by many in the UK it 1010 00:47:23,210 --> 00:47:27,650 was recently voted the greatest comedy 1011 00:47:24,980 --> 00:47:29,750 film of all time it also marks perhaps 1012 00:47:27,650 --> 00:47:35,750 the happiest and most creative period 1013 00:47:29,750 --> 00:47:38,239 for the pythons I've always thought that 1014 00:47:35,750 --> 00:47:41,300 life burns the best thing Python did by 1015 00:47:38,239 --> 00:47:43,909 quite a long short it's the one when we 1016 00:47:41,300 --> 00:47:46,130 all are dust life O'Brien 1017 00:47:43,909 --> 00:47:47,420 it made a difference baby I'm curious if 1018 00:47:46,130 --> 00:47:49,460 it did make a difference that's what's 1019 00:47:47,420 --> 00:47:51,260 interesting but I do think it does it 1020 00:47:49,460 --> 00:47:55,400 gives hope to people who still want to 1021 00:47:51,260 --> 00:47:57,110 think and laugh let us like him hold up 1022 00:47:55,400 --> 00:47:59,090 one showing that the other be upon our 1023 00:47:57,110 --> 00:48:00,950 course or this is his sign that all who 1024 00:47:59,090 --> 00:48:03,559 follow him shall do likewise 1025 00:48:00,949 --> 00:48:08,779 no no no the show is a sign that we must 1026 00:48:03,559 --> 00:48:11,509 gather shoes together in abundance know 1027 00:48:08,780 --> 00:48:13,880 you just gather shoes together pick me 1028 00:48:11,510 --> 00:48:16,250 follow the shoe know it's a sandal fold 1029 00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:19,550 the gore is my favorite scene because it 1030 00:48:16,250 --> 00:48:22,820 is in in five minutes we do the history 1031 00:48:19,550 --> 00:48:25,550 of any major religion and all of its 1032 00:48:22,820 --> 00:48:27,650 heresies and its punishments and its 1033 00:48:25,550 --> 00:48:31,640 madness and I think that is it 1034 00:48:27,650 --> 00:48:32,599 extraordinary same hell my style I'm not 1035 00:48:31,639 --> 00:48:34,879 the Messiah 1036 00:48:32,599 --> 00:48:38,098 I say you are Lord and I should know I 1037 00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:40,588 followed a few Hey 1038 00:48:38,099 --> 00:48:43,048 the group scenes with the various 1039 00:48:40,588 --> 00:48:46,139 members of the Judean people's front 1040 00:48:43,048 --> 00:48:48,358 appear for B that was a lovely thing to 1041 00:48:46,139 --> 00:48:52,348 play campaign for C Galilee 1042 00:48:48,358 --> 00:48:53,449 oh uh it was fun at you dear officials 1043 00:48:52,349 --> 00:48:55,349 Oh 1044 00:48:53,449 --> 00:48:57,358 what's your crew tell you we're gonna 1045 00:48:55,349 --> 00:49:01,588 kidnap pilots while you take a back you 1046 00:48:57,358 --> 00:49:03,960 sudhi man sorry what Harlan wewe are 1047 00:49:01,588 --> 00:49:04,469 first are you mean we thought of it 1048 00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:07,559 first 1049 00:49:04,469 --> 00:49:09,538 oh shit yeah it's a couple years ago it 1050 00:49:07,559 --> 00:49:11,970 was invention going on there as well as 1051 00:49:09,539 --> 00:49:14,220 are basically a good strong script and I 1052 00:49:11,969 --> 00:49:16,199 think seems like that everybody felt 1053 00:49:14,219 --> 00:49:18,568 either this is our one chance to get 1054 00:49:16,199 --> 00:49:22,618 this brother we should be struggling 1055 00:49:18,568 --> 00:49:24,960 together we mustn't fight each other 1056 00:49:22,619 --> 00:49:28,798 surely we should be uniting against the 1057 00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:35,429 common enemy if you feel Babel France no 1058 00:49:28,798 --> 00:49:37,679 no the Romans almost 30 years on the 1059 00:49:35,429 --> 00:49:40,828 film still provokes controversy still 1060 00:49:37,679 --> 00:49:43,318 provokes debate I know I didn't think it 1061 00:49:40,829 --> 00:49:45,630 was funny I thought that it was um quite 1062 00:49:43,318 --> 00:49:48,690 an insult to be honest maybe just being 1063 00:49:45,630 --> 00:49:50,130 offensive to them because it is making 1064 00:49:48,690 --> 00:49:52,440 fun of people who don't think for 1065 00:49:50,130 --> 00:49:54,358 themselves and that's exactly what the 1066 00:49:52,440 --> 00:49:55,440 whole things about so I think it's quite 1067 00:49:54,358 --> 00:49:57,179 right for people who don't think 1068 00:49:55,440 --> 00:49:59,009 themselves you can upset about it we 1069 00:49:57,179 --> 00:50:00,989 don't have the power to make films we 1070 00:49:59,009 --> 00:50:03,809 don't have the money to make films to 1071 00:50:00,989 --> 00:50:07,108 lampoon Eric Idle nor what we want to 1072 00:50:03,809 --> 00:50:09,839 but you but one of the things that puts 1073 00:50:07,108 --> 00:50:13,768 as it were the Christian community at a 1074 00:50:09,838 --> 00:50:16,108 real disadvantage is that you know our 1075 00:50:13,768 --> 00:50:18,959 Lord Himself said if somebody strikes 1076 00:50:16,108 --> 00:50:21,150 you turn the other cheek some poor tells 1077 00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:23,608 us don't be offensive to anyone 1078 00:50:21,150 --> 00:50:26,190 I think it's extraordinarily rare for 1079 00:50:23,608 --> 00:50:27,778 the religious to be funny or to be funny 1080 00:50:26,190 --> 00:50:30,749 about their religions or even about 1081 00:50:27,778 --> 00:50:32,670 anybody else's I think there is a great 1082 00:50:30,748 --> 00:50:34,980 humor vacuum at the heart of all 1083 00:50:32,670 --> 00:50:37,528 religions I don't think you ever wanted 1084 00:50:34,980 --> 00:50:39,630 to hurt anyone's feelings but sometimes 1085 00:50:37,528 --> 00:50:41,219 you know as with the Islamic world now 1086 00:50:39,630 --> 00:50:42,568 there are certain things they believe in 1087 00:50:41,219 --> 00:50:44,068 which are quite contrary to what we 1088 00:50:42,568 --> 00:50:46,139 believe and I don't really think our 1089 00:50:44,068 --> 00:50:47,759 values are less important than their so 1090 00:50:46,139 --> 00:50:50,489 I guess you just have to have a clash 1091 00:50:47,759 --> 00:50:52,829 and says that's the way it is 1092 00:50:50,489 --> 00:50:54,659 although the pythons went on to make two 1093 00:50:52,829 --> 00:50:56,848 more feature films they never achieved 1094 00:50:54,659 --> 00:50:59,670 the same success or impact as Life of 1095 00:50:56,849 --> 00:51:01,680 Brian its legacy is unquestionable and 1096 00:50:59,670 --> 00:51:03,809 it could easily be argued that it's more 1097 00:51:01,679 --> 00:51:07,230 relevant today than when it was made 1098 00:51:03,809 --> 00:51:09,150 now there's so many groups all demanding 1099 00:51:07,230 --> 00:51:10,858 don't offend don't cause the desert 1100 00:51:09,150 --> 00:51:12,510 because our and on and on 1101 00:51:10,858 --> 00:51:15,119 a Samaritan this is supposed to be a 1102 00:51:12,510 --> 00:51:17,940 Jewish section he doesn't matter you're 1103 00:51:15,119 --> 00:51:19,349 all gonna die on a diet oh it may not 1104 00:51:17,940 --> 00:51:20,940 matter to you Roman but it certainly 1105 00:51:19,349 --> 00:51:23,730 matters to us doesn't it darling a 1106 00:51:20,940 --> 00:51:25,530 rather under the terms of the Roman 1107 00:51:23,730 --> 00:51:28,920 occupancy we're entitled to be crucified 1108 00:51:25,530 --> 00:51:32,130 in a purely Jewish area Pharisees and 1109 00:51:28,920 --> 00:51:34,440 Sadducees thank you mr. Pinter wish it 1110 00:51:32,130 --> 00:51:37,440 is entirely legitimate to criticize 1111 00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:39,570 religions it has to happen we must be 1112 00:51:37,440 --> 00:51:41,159 allowed to do it we can't fall silent 1113 00:51:39,570 --> 00:51:42,930 just because it's become more 1114 00:51:41,159 --> 00:51:44,399 politically difficult I think if you 1115 00:51:42,929 --> 00:51:46,769 have a religion that can't bear being 1116 00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:49,829 made fun of or laughed at or even 1117 00:51:46,769 --> 00:51:51,480 attacked viciously then it's not a bunch 1118 00:51:49,829 --> 00:51:53,670 of a religion when you suddenly have to 1119 00:51:51,480 --> 00:51:56,159 think to yourself now can I write this 1120 00:51:53,670 --> 00:51:57,809 because it might maybe I'll be offending 1121 00:51:56,159 --> 00:51:59,608 somebody some of religious 1122 00:51:57,809 --> 00:52:01,650 susceptibilities or racial septum 1123 00:51:59,608 --> 00:52:03,900 susceptibilities I mean it's ridiculous 1124 00:52:01,650 --> 00:52:06,510 I don't understand well I do understand 1125 00:52:03,900 --> 00:52:08,519 but I don't want to accept a world of 1126 00:52:06,510 --> 00:52:11,339 such parody of such thin-skinned and of 1127 00:52:08,519 --> 00:52:13,650 such that offense is the causing offense 1128 00:52:11,338 --> 00:52:16,469 is the greatest crime you can do to 1129 00:52:13,650 --> 00:52:18,809 somebody and as to whether life of brian 1130 00:52:16,469 --> 00:52:21,598 could be made in the present day well i 1131 00:52:18,809 --> 00:52:23,699 think it ought to be made today i think 1132 00:52:21,599 --> 00:52:26,280 everybody would think twice about doing 1133 00:52:23,699 --> 00:52:29,759 it today because it is terrifying what's 1134 00:52:26,280 --> 00:52:32,099 what's happening and very very dangerous 1135 00:52:29,760 --> 00:52:34,320 i think free speech is really under 1136 00:52:32,099 --> 00:52:36,330 attack at the moment in a very devious 1137 00:52:34,320 --> 00:52:38,760 way as you get older when you get in my 1138 00:52:36,329 --> 00:52:41,130 age and I'm 66 now you realize the 1139 00:52:38,760 --> 00:52:43,920 world's a madhouse and that most people 1140 00:52:41,130 --> 00:52:45,210 are operating in fantasy anyway so once 1141 00:52:43,920 --> 00:52:46,950 you begin to realize that it doesn't 1142 00:52:45,210 --> 00:52:48,480 bother you very much comedy is not 1143 00:52:46,949 --> 00:52:49,949 particularly difficult you can get 1144 00:52:48,480 --> 00:52:52,588 laughs doing any number of things but to 1145 00:52:49,949 --> 00:52:57,169 get laughs at an intelligent level about 1146 00:52:52,588 --> 00:52:57,170 an important subject whew that's good 1147 00:53:41,849 --> 00:53:43,909 you 134372

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