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- Previously,
on "Dirty John"...
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- Rocket-propelled grenade.
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The guy who was next to me
in the Humvee died.
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- You're saying
he wasn't there?
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- I'm just saying
he wasn't in Iraq
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when you keep saying he was.
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- Who the hell's "TS"?
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"Can't wait
for tomorrow night."
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Who is it?
- Toby, my nephew.
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Toby Sellars?
- Excuse me.
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Be right back.
- Who's that?
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Is that--
- Yeah, it's my brother-in-law.
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Ex-brother--
- Your brother-in-law?
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You should be glad your dad
killed your mom
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so she didn't have
to be around to see this.
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- Did you open my mail?
How dare you!
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It's a felony
to open someone's mail.
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- In California and Ohio
he's been in prison.
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- So then what should I do?
- If you have a will
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and he's in it, take him out.
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Call someone, Deb!
-My God!
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What's going on?
- I don't know.
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- He was fine, and then
he just collapsed.
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- Could you help me understand
his history with narcotics?
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- If you were me,
what would you do?
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Would you leave?
- Stay in hotels
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or places you've never
stayed before.
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Dye your hair, probably.
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Make yourself
a difficult target.
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- You just have
to give it time.
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- I can't.
- You--you just have
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to give it a chance to work.
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I know, I know, I do,
but it just feels wrong.
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It feels wrong.
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- But they said it would,
remember?
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They--they said that it would
feel counterintuitive.
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That's what Mr.--
um, your counselor said.
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That to make a marriage work
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that, you know, it seems like
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we should hang on much tighter
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and stay even closer,
but that sometimes
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a, um--a separation
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can bring a new perspective.
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Said it would only work
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if we both had the same goals,
if we were both honest...
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- Right.
- About wanting it to work
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but Cindi isn't.
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She's pretending she does
but she doesn't.
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- Why do you say that?
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- It was the only way left
to show him
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that we really tried
hard enough.
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- Hard enough to what?
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- To save the marriage.
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So he can accept
that it can't be saved.
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- Well, that's not what
he thought was happening.
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He went there in good faith.
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Of course he did.
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I mean, the whole thing
was his idea.
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Years of not listening to me,
of trying to control
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everything that I do,
I finally say that I want
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to leave, that I am leaving,
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and then he wants to go
to counseling.
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- Cindi...
- So someone can tell me
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to try harder.
Tell me to be happy
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my whole life not being allowed
to wear a bikini on the beach.
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Not being allowed
to go grocery shopping alone
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or do anything alone.
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- I always encouraged her to be
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whatever she wanted to be.
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Said I never gave her room
to grow.
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I asked, "Grow into what?"
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She won't ever tell me.
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I've known her my whole life.
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I can't remember a time
when I didn't love her.
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- I'm the love of his life
because I've just been there
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his whole life.
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We were babies.
We didn't know any better.
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You were right.
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You told me that we were
too young to get married
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and I didn't listen.
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Debbie listened and I didn't
and you were right,
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like you always are.
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And now here we are.
- Don't be so dramatic.
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And I say that as someone
who's on your side.
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- But you don't want me
to be happy.
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- I want to stop you
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from making a mistake
that you won't be able to fix.
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And you're almost there.
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You've been together so long.
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You were both so young.
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When Cindi thinks about
what she thinks she's missed
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it's easier for her
to just blame you.
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It's easier for her to say
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that you're in her way
and that she wants a new start
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rather than make
the life she has
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into the life that she wants.
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When we choose what we want,
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what we feel right now,
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over what we promised--
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what we swore to somebody...
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That can haunt us
the rest of our lives.
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- Well, I would choose
whatever comes next
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to be free right now.
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I would choose being haunted
my whole life, Mom.
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- She wants a divorce.
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She's not saying it yet
but she will.
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And what am I gonna do?
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- She's--she's confused.
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She's just confused.
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- Can you just tell me
that you at least understand
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what I'm saying?
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- Trust in the Lord
with all your heart
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and lean not
on your own understandings.
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In all your ways
acknowledge Him
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and He will direct your path.
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You love that one.
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- You love the whole
Book of Proverbs,
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but you really love that one.
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- Because it's true.
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He directs our paths.
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- Bobby, hey!
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Frank left
for work already.
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Did he tell you
he was gonna be here?
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- No, I--I figured
he wouldn't.
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Said he wouldn't need to be.
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Said I could come by any time
and you could help me out.
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- Yeah, sure.
- The loading dock's
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right next to where we park.
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It's always lit, but still.
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Three muggings
in the last five weeks.
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I'm a manager now, so I gotta
lock up at nights, too, so--
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- Wow, I had no idea
it had gotten so dangerous.
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Poor Cindi must wait up
all night worrying about you.
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I know I would.
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Finally.
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Here.
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Now, don't you go holding up
a liquor store or anything.
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- Pretty sure I'm not gonna be
doing that.
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Good looking out, though.
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- He steals drugs
from hospitals--
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which he's been to prison for,
by the way--
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and for the stalking.
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- I saw all that stuff
in there.
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I get it, I do.
- Okay, so how many
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restraining orders
do there have to be
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from how many different people
before you do your job?
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- Well, right now
I am seeing which law
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I can actually enforce
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in this particular situation
that we have right here.
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Okay, "John Meehan."
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Parole officer
has Bay Front Avenue
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on Balboa
as his current address.
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Nice.
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You live there too, miss?
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- Yes.
- Okay.
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He's not on the lease, though,
is that right?
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"John Meehan"?
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- No.
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Does it--
how do you know that?
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- Well, it says PO asked
for a copy of the lease
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to confirm, but Meehan told her
he couldn't give her one
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'cause it wasn't in his name.
- Given his history
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of conning women,
she didn't maybe think that
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that was a red flag?
- She did, actually.
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File says she was planning
to make an unannounced
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site visit
to check his story out.
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- Okay, except how about
she did not do that?
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- He's not the only parolee
she's gotta keep tabs on.
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And he gave her the address
in mid-December,
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so she probably just hasn't
had time to get there.
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You two were pen pals
when he was in the joint?
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- No.
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- So it just all happened
pretty fast, then,
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once he got out.
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You guys meeting,
getting together I guess.
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- Is that what you guess?
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Do you think
you're being subtle?
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- Look, I--
- Because you are not.
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Do you not think that my mother
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is already upset enough
over this?
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You think she wants
to come here
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so you can make her feel worse?
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Think that's why she pays
her taxes?
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So she can come into
your office
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and you can shame her?
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Is that what you think?
- Look, that's not
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what I think.
- Good.
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- I'm sorry.
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But what I do think is there's
not a whole lot I can do.
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Right.
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So that means you can
do nothing, right?
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- What I mean is,
since he's paid his recent debt
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to society, what I have
is a bad guy
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with a bad history
who, so far as we know,
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hasn't actually broken
a law in Newport Beach.
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I can't even pick him up
for failure to report
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to his PO.
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Whatever this is he's up to,
he's good at it.
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But he's on our radar now--
my radar--
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and if he makes a move--
- When.
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When he makes a move.
- We'll be on him
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like a ton of bricks.
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You have my word on that.
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Right now that's all I got.
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What about this place?
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- I designed the club
at that place.
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John might remember.
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Anyway, you know,
I'm pretending I'm going
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on a spa vacation.
- This place looks good.
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- I don't want
to hemorrhage money.
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That place
is so expensive, Ronnie.
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So where, then?
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- Don't get frustrated with me
in addition
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to everything else right now.
- We can't go to Grandma's,
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and you can't go to Trey's
'cause he knows
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where both of them live,
and I'm out
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of the penthouse already.
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Although, technically that is
still paid for
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through the end of the month,
but that's like ground zero
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for this whole
stupid situation.
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- What about one
of those places, you know,
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over by the Spectrum?
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You know those places?
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- Like, one of the
corporate suites?
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- Yeah.
- With the shower curtains?
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They have self-parking, mom.
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- I know, but I have to go
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to a place that I wouldn't
normally go, you know?
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I don't want to stand out.
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I don't want to do
my normal routine.
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I don't want John to find me.
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- We should pay for the room
in cash.
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Maybe you would know
if he was monitoring
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your credit cards, but maybe
you wouldn't, you know?
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Let's go find an ATM.
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I got it.
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My God.
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It's not so bad.
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I mean, at least you're not
here forever, right?
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- Right.
- It's dark and musty.
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You know there's
no room service here, right?
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- That's all right.
I--I'm not--
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I'm not really hungry anyway.
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- Did you call the hospital?
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- I did, and, you know, I--
I talked to the nurse
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who was sitting
right in front of John.
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He's not going anywhere.
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She says his fever
is very high
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and they're watching
his immune system.
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Post-surgery or something.
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Let's hope they forget
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to sanitize?
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But I should go.
-Okay.
254
00:11:05,381 --> 00:11:07,165
- Are you gonna be okay here
on your own?
255
00:11:07,209 --> 00:11:08,471
- Yes.
- You sure?
256
00:11:08,514 --> 00:11:10,168
Okay.
257
00:11:11,822 --> 00:11:14,303
You call me if you need me.
- Okay.
258
00:11:14,346 --> 00:11:15,739
Thank you, hun.
259
00:11:45,551 --> 00:11:46,944
- I've figured it out now,
I guess.
260
00:11:49,773 --> 00:11:52,689
I don't understand
where you are, Deb.
261
00:11:58,260 --> 00:12:00,741
I don't understand
what's happening.
262
00:12:02,873 --> 00:12:05,833
Maybe I do.
I just...
263
00:12:05,876 --> 00:12:08,705
don't want to believe
you're a coward.
264
00:12:10,315 --> 00:12:12,578
You promised me
this was forever.
265
00:12:12,622 --> 00:12:15,364
We promised that
to each other.
266
00:12:15,407 --> 00:12:17,845
Well, I guess
you didn't mean it.
267
00:12:19,977 --> 00:12:21,979
But I did.
268
00:12:22,023 --> 00:12:25,417
The choices we make
show who we are.
269
00:12:25,461 --> 00:12:27,550
I know who you are now, Deb.
270
00:12:32,337 --> 00:12:34,557
Pray for me, at least.
271
00:12:34,600 --> 00:12:36,298
Okay?
272
00:12:36,341 --> 00:12:37,952
'Cause I'm praying for you.
273
00:12:43,958 --> 00:12:45,437
Tuck that...
274
00:12:45,481 --> 00:12:46,830
Coming back down.
275
00:12:47,875 --> 00:12:49,006
Okay, keep going.
276
00:12:49,050 --> 00:12:50,486
I'll be right back.
277
00:12:57,493 --> 00:12:58,973
Hello?
- Hi, Mom, it's Cindi.
278
00:12:59,016 --> 00:13:00,452
Hi!
279
00:13:00,496 --> 00:13:02,411
Are you teaching all day?
-Yes--yeah.
280
00:13:02,454 --> 00:13:04,979
Most of the day, yeah.
- Think you can take a break?
281
00:13:05,022 --> 00:13:07,155
- Um, about noon.
282
00:13:07,198 --> 00:13:09,070
I could maybe move
one of my students.
283
00:13:09,113 --> 00:13:10,811
- No, noon is good.
284
00:13:10,854 --> 00:13:12,769
I just want to tell you
what's happening.
285
00:13:12,813 --> 00:13:14,379
- Okay, well--
well, come hungry.
286
00:13:14,423 --> 00:13:16,860
I'll make us a special lunch.
- I'll see you at 12:00.
287
00:13:16,904 --> 00:13:18,079
I love you.
- Okay.
288
00:13:18,122 --> 00:13:20,255
You, too.
Bye.
289
00:13:48,109 --> 00:13:50,459
Cindi, Cindi, Cindi.
290
00:13:55,246 --> 00:13:57,858
Megan.
-Sorry I'm early.
291
00:13:57,901 --> 00:13:59,903
My mom had to drop me off...
292
00:13:59,947 --> 00:14:01,470
That's fine, honey.
293
00:14:01,513 --> 00:14:03,385
That's fine, I was just--
- Is Mom here?
294
00:14:03,428 --> 00:14:05,039
- No, Toby, honey,
I'm sorry.
295
00:14:05,082 --> 00:14:06,867
No, I--I must have
heard her wrong.
296
00:14:06,910 --> 00:14:07,911
Um, I'll send her
right in to you
297
00:14:07,955 --> 00:14:10,131
when she gets here, okay?
298
00:14:24,319 --> 00:14:27,931
Did I make it worse for you?
299
00:14:29,063 --> 00:14:31,282
Because I liked him so much?
300
00:14:31,326 --> 00:14:34,503
Did I make it harder for you
to see who he really was?
301
00:14:37,462 --> 00:14:39,377
- No.
302
00:14:41,031 --> 00:14:43,947
Mom, I--I don't think I...
303
00:14:43,991 --> 00:14:46,384
ever saw who he really was.
304
00:14:46,428 --> 00:14:48,604
- What the kids told me--
305
00:14:48,647 --> 00:14:51,476
what they found out is--
is just unbelievable.
306
00:14:51,520 --> 00:14:53,391
I--I can't wrap
307
00:14:53,435 --> 00:14:55,437
my mind around it.
308
00:14:56,699 --> 00:14:58,396
You know...
309
00:14:58,440 --> 00:15:02,270
there was something
that I felt around him.
310
00:15:03,706 --> 00:15:05,969
I don't know, something...
311
00:15:06,013 --> 00:15:07,971
missing in him, you know?
312
00:15:08,015 --> 00:15:09,625
- Yeah.
313
00:15:09,668 --> 00:15:11,932
Honesty.
314
00:15:15,196 --> 00:15:17,633
That was it.
315
00:15:22,638 --> 00:15:24,509
We're laughing about it.
316
00:15:24,553 --> 00:15:26,990
My goodness.
317
00:15:28,949 --> 00:15:31,995
But you know, that thing
that I felt...
318
00:15:33,170 --> 00:15:35,564
I--it never was about you,
Debbie.
319
00:15:38,393 --> 00:15:41,439
Always thought he loved you.
320
00:15:44,268 --> 00:15:47,010
- I did too.
321
00:15:47,054 --> 00:15:49,970
I still--I still kinda do.
322
00:15:50,013 --> 00:15:51,362
Is that crazy?
323
00:15:51,406 --> 00:15:53,930
- No, 'cause you're wonderful.
324
00:15:53,974 --> 00:15:56,367
How could he not love you?
325
00:15:59,718 --> 00:16:01,285
I don't know.
326
00:16:01,329 --> 00:16:04,636
Is it worse or better
to know that...
327
00:16:04,680 --> 00:16:07,683
he did this to women
before you?
328
00:16:09,424 --> 00:16:12,209
- You know, he didn't--
329
00:16:12,253 --> 00:16:15,343
he didn't do anything
to me, really, except lie.
330
00:16:15,386 --> 00:16:17,388
- But to lie...
331
00:16:17,432 --> 00:16:19,956
about being in prison?
332
00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:23,046
- I know.
- Stalking women and--and...
333
00:16:24,656 --> 00:16:27,050
My goodness, he's not even
a doctor.
334
00:16:27,094 --> 00:16:29,400
I mean, what--what kind
of a person does that?
335
00:16:29,444 --> 00:16:32,186
What--what must be, you know,
336
00:16:32,229 --> 00:16:34,405
inside him to do something
like that?
337
00:16:34,449 --> 00:16:37,060
- I don't know.
- Well...
338
00:16:37,104 --> 00:16:38,453
how could you know?
339
00:16:38,496 --> 00:16:41,238
How could you?
340
00:16:41,282 --> 00:16:44,372
- But I do wonder, you know,
'cause...
341
00:16:44,415 --> 00:16:47,375
nobody's without sin.
342
00:16:47,418 --> 00:16:49,420
And...
343
00:16:49,464 --> 00:16:51,074
everybody can be saved.
344
00:16:51,118 --> 00:16:53,076
You say it all the time.
345
00:16:53,120 --> 00:16:54,338
You know, nobody's perfect.
346
00:16:54,382 --> 00:16:57,167
Everybody has something.
347
00:16:57,211 --> 00:16:59,517
- But, Debbie, you--
you didn't do anything
348
00:16:59,561 --> 00:17:01,650
to deserve this.
349
00:17:01,693 --> 00:17:04,435
What did you do to--
to deserve for--
350
00:17:04,479 --> 00:17:07,047
for him to hurt you like that?
351
00:17:07,090 --> 00:17:10,224
To betray you.
352
00:17:10,267 --> 00:17:12,269
- I don't know.
- You did nothing.
353
00:17:12,313 --> 00:17:14,228
You did nothing.
- I know.
354
00:17:18,710 --> 00:17:21,061
- Are you Mrs. Hart?
355
00:17:21,104 --> 00:17:23,628
Arlane Hart?
- Yes.
356
00:17:23,672 --> 00:17:25,239
- Could we come in?
357
00:17:25,282 --> 00:17:27,458
- O--of course.
358
00:17:30,635 --> 00:17:33,464
You did nothing wrong.
359
00:17:33,508 --> 00:17:35,553
Thank God you found out now.
360
00:17:35,597 --> 00:17:38,121
Thank God that you're away
from him.
361
00:17:38,165 --> 00:17:40,732
'Cause I couldn't lose
362
00:17:40,776 --> 00:17:42,125
another daughter.
363
00:17:42,169 --> 00:17:45,041
I can't, I can't.
364
00:17:47,609 --> 00:17:50,481
- Are you home alone,
Mrs. Hart?
365
00:17:50,525 --> 00:17:52,092
- N--no, no.
366
00:17:52,135 --> 00:17:53,745
My grandson, he's--
he's watching TV.
367
00:17:53,789 --> 00:17:56,487
He's--he's 11.
368
00:17:58,402 --> 00:17:59,751
What--what is it?
369
00:17:59,795 --> 00:18:02,145
- Ma'am...
370
00:18:02,189 --> 00:18:04,452
there's been a shooting.
371
00:18:05,801 --> 00:18:07,455
- What, is it--
is it Bobby?
372
00:18:07,498 --> 00:18:10,327
Is it Bobby who's been--
who's been shot?
373
00:18:10,371 --> 00:18:13,635
- Ma'am, your daughter,
Cindi Sellars, has been shot.
374
00:18:16,290 --> 00:18:19,336
how--how bad is she?
375
00:18:19,380 --> 00:18:21,164
- I'm sorry.
She--
376
00:18:21,208 --> 00:18:24,167
She didn't make it.
377
00:18:24,211 --> 00:18:26,865
- Your son-in-law
shot your daughter...
378
00:18:26,909 --> 00:18:28,606
And then he shot himself.
379
00:18:28,650 --> 00:18:31,783
O...
380
00:18:31,827 --> 00:18:33,872
Is--is he dead?
381
00:18:33,916 --> 00:18:36,397
- No, he shot himself
in the chest area.
382
00:18:36,440 --> 00:18:39,574
He's at the hospital
in custody.
383
00:18:41,445 --> 00:18:44,318
I--I...
384
00:18:44,361 --> 00:18:47,190
I--I have...
385
00:18:59,159 --> 00:19:03,685
Please, help me.
386
00:19:10,213 --> 00:19:14,826
Please.
Please.
387
00:19:19,266 --> 00:19:21,572
I--I can do this.
388
00:19:21,616 --> 00:19:24,662
I'm not alone.
389
00:19:24,706 --> 00:19:27,143
I can do this.
390
00:19:31,887 --> 00:19:33,758
- Could it be Mr. Rogers?
391
00:19:35,630 --> 00:19:37,849
You're in the neighborhood.
392
00:19:38,894 --> 00:19:41,026
- Have a seat.
393
00:19:43,159 --> 00:19:44,682
- Toby?
394
00:19:44,726 --> 00:19:46,641
Hi, sweetie.
395
00:19:46,684 --> 00:19:49,600
- You are the first lad...
- Something's happened.
396
00:19:52,037 --> 00:19:55,084
Something terrible
has happened.
397
00:19:55,127 --> 00:19:58,174
- Why are policemen here?
- Um...
398
00:19:58,218 --> 00:20:01,090
well, they--they came
to tell me...
399
00:20:01,133 --> 00:20:04,049
that your father has shot
400
00:20:04,093 --> 00:20:06,487
and killed your mother.
401
00:20:06,530 --> 00:20:09,968
That she is dead.
402
00:20:10,012 --> 00:20:11,796
Y--your Daddy's okay.
403
00:20:11,840 --> 00:20:14,190
He--he shot himself, too,
but he's okay.
404
00:20:14,234 --> 00:20:16,105
He's not dead.
405
00:20:16,148 --> 00:20:18,716
He's in the hospital
right now.
406
00:20:26,071 --> 00:20:29,814
- It's okay.
We can do this.
407
00:20:31,860 --> 00:20:33,296
But we have to be strong.
408
00:20:33,340 --> 00:20:35,124
So strong.
409
00:20:35,167 --> 00:20:37,257
It's gonna be so, so hard...
410
00:20:37,300 --> 00:20:38,997
but Jesus will help us.
411
00:20:39,041 --> 00:20:41,957
And we have each other,
and we have Him,
412
00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:44,612
and we will get through this
together.
413
00:20:44,655 --> 00:20:46,527
All of us.
414
00:20:47,876 --> 00:20:50,313
And, um--okay.
415
00:20:50,357 --> 00:20:52,837
I--I have to--
416
00:20:52,881 --> 00:20:55,100
I have to go...
417
00:20:55,144 --> 00:20:58,669
make some phone--
some phone calls,
418
00:20:58,713 --> 00:21:01,237
and so you watch
a little more TV, okay?
419
00:21:01,281 --> 00:21:04,675
And I will come back
in a bit and get you.
420
00:21:04,719 --> 00:21:06,634
Okay, love bug?
421
00:21:09,724 --> 00:21:13,336
- I can be strong
with you, Grandma.
422
00:21:13,380 --> 00:21:16,121
I know you can, my sweet boy.
423
00:21:26,828 --> 00:21:28,830
- The good news is,
you're free of him now.
424
00:21:28,873 --> 00:21:31,049
You know, you're here,
you're safe.
425
00:21:31,093 --> 00:21:34,357
That's all I care about.
426
00:21:34,401 --> 00:21:36,620
Thank you.
427
00:21:38,927 --> 00:21:41,059
Some of the stuff
me and Ronnie found out
428
00:21:41,103 --> 00:21:43,888
about this guy?
429
00:21:43,932 --> 00:21:46,064
He's a con man, you know?
430
00:21:46,108 --> 00:21:48,850
He wanted money for drugs
and all that stuff
431
00:21:48,893 --> 00:21:50,982
but he was more than that.
432
00:21:51,026 --> 00:21:52,767
What he really wants
is for people
433
00:21:52,810 --> 00:21:55,247
to remember him.
434
00:21:55,291 --> 00:21:56,901
He wanted these women
435
00:21:56,945 --> 00:22:00,818
to live in fear of him,
which is crazy.
436
00:22:00,862 --> 00:22:02,907
That'd be like the one thing
that I would ask him about
437
00:22:02,951 --> 00:22:05,214
if I ever saw him again,
you know?
438
00:22:05,257 --> 00:22:07,259
"Why?"
439
00:22:09,044 --> 00:22:11,263
Not that'd ever
explain himself to me.
440
00:22:11,307 --> 00:22:12,743
- I don't know.
441
00:22:12,787 --> 00:22:14,310
He might.
442
00:22:16,007 --> 00:22:19,271
He said this one woman
was like his project.
443
00:22:19,315 --> 00:22:21,883
Did you feel that way?
444
00:22:24,102 --> 00:22:25,887
- No.
445
00:22:28,150 --> 00:22:30,935
No, I just...
446
00:22:30,979 --> 00:22:32,937
felt like he loved me.
447
00:22:35,026 --> 00:22:37,812
- I mean, he's one heck
of a liar, right?
448
00:22:37,855 --> 00:22:40,684
I'm sure part of it's true,
you know.
449
00:22:40,728 --> 00:22:42,686
He must have felt that way
a little bit
450
00:22:42,730 --> 00:22:45,733
to convince people like that.
451
00:22:45,776 --> 00:22:47,822
Like you.
452
00:22:52,783 --> 00:22:55,177
I could never
really understand...
453
00:22:55,220 --> 00:22:57,788
what happened to Mom, you know.
454
00:22:57,832 --> 00:23:00,312
Why...
455
00:23:00,356 --> 00:23:03,315
why Dad did that thing to her.
456
00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:05,796
Because he loved her too much?
457
00:23:08,190 --> 00:23:10,801
Sometimes I still
don't understand, you know?
458
00:23:10,845 --> 00:23:13,804
But...
459
00:23:13,848 --> 00:23:16,241
this thing with John...
460
00:23:16,285 --> 00:23:19,157
why he does these things...
461
00:23:19,201 --> 00:23:21,333
it almost makes that
seem simple.
462
00:24:03,941 --> 00:24:06,509
- I'm so sorry.
463
00:24:06,553 --> 00:24:09,730
I am so, so sorry.
464
00:24:11,558 --> 00:24:13,864
- When--when you would
come and--
465
00:24:13,908 --> 00:24:16,998
and talk to me about--
466
00:24:17,041 --> 00:24:20,262
Did you already know
you were gonna do it?
467
00:24:20,305 --> 00:24:23,265
Yes.
468
00:24:24,919 --> 00:24:27,965
To myself, um...
469
00:24:28,009 --> 00:24:30,968
I wanted to do it to myself.
470
00:24:31,012 --> 00:24:32,535
Not to her.
471
00:24:32,579 --> 00:24:33,971
I mean, not her.
472
00:24:34,015 --> 00:24:36,147
Not ever.
473
00:24:36,191 --> 00:24:37,322
- How are you?
474
00:24:37,366 --> 00:24:40,761
You're wearing--
475
00:24:42,937 --> 00:24:45,287
It doesn't matter.
476
00:24:46,941 --> 00:24:50,074
- Do you still want to die?
477
00:24:50,118 --> 00:24:52,337
- Yes, but...
478
00:24:52,381 --> 00:24:55,384
I don't deserve to.
479
00:24:55,427 --> 00:24:57,517
I should live every day
480
00:24:57,560 --> 00:25:00,432
of a long life in here
thinking about her.
481
00:25:04,219 --> 00:25:06,221
How's Toby?
482
00:25:07,309 --> 00:25:09,833
- Scared.
483
00:25:09,877 --> 00:25:13,010
For you.
For...
484
00:25:13,054 --> 00:25:16,318
where you are and what might be
happening to you.
485
00:25:16,361 --> 00:25:18,015
- You tell him not to be.
486
00:25:18,059 --> 00:25:20,583
You just tell him,
"Don't be scared."
487
00:25:22,106 --> 00:25:25,196
- You killed my daughter,
Bobby.
488
00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:27,808
I hate what you've done.
489
00:25:29,897 --> 00:25:32,900
- More than I've ever hated
anything in this whole world.
490
00:25:36,207 --> 00:25:37,948
But you loved her.
491
00:25:37,992 --> 00:25:40,603
I know that.
492
00:25:40,647 --> 00:25:42,823
- God has given us
all of this love
493
00:25:42,866 --> 00:25:44,999
we have for each other.
494
00:25:46,478 --> 00:25:49,351
Long ago, he showed us
who you are.
495
00:25:49,394 --> 00:25:51,353
So we love you.
496
00:25:54,051 --> 00:25:56,010
Still.
497
00:25:57,577 --> 00:25:59,274
We all do.
498
00:25:59,317 --> 00:26:01,189
Still.
499
00:26:05,367 --> 00:26:08,370
How--how can you say that?
500
00:26:25,430 --> 00:26:28,129
Can any hide himself
in secret places
501
00:26:28,172 --> 00:26:30,348
that I shall not see him?
502
00:26:38,574 --> 00:26:42,012
In the Lord we have redemption
through His blood.
503
00:26:44,406 --> 00:26:46,930
The forgiveness
of our trespasses...
504
00:26:49,063 --> 00:26:52,109
According to the riches
of His grace.
505
00:27:26,622 --> 00:27:29,364
- Deb, I'm sorry.
506
00:27:29,407 --> 00:27:31,322
I am so...
507
00:27:31,366 --> 00:27:32,628
so sorry.
- No.
508
00:27:32,672 --> 00:27:36,719
I don't want
to hear anything...
509
00:27:36,763 --> 00:27:39,330
from you except...
510
00:27:41,593 --> 00:27:45,423
I want to know.
511
00:27:45,467 --> 00:27:47,774
- What do you want to know?
512
00:27:47,817 --> 00:27:51,691
What do you want to know?
513
00:28:02,136 --> 00:28:05,705
- Why'd you do all that?
514
00:28:05,748 --> 00:28:08,359
- You heard what I told...
515
00:28:08,403 --> 00:28:10,753
the Sergeant.
516
00:28:10,797 --> 00:28:13,408
About the drugs.
517
00:28:13,451 --> 00:28:16,541
The pain management program.
518
00:28:18,979 --> 00:28:21,155
There's no...
519
00:28:21,198 --> 00:28:23,548
I'm the program.
520
00:28:25,028 --> 00:28:27,596
I'm an addict.
521
00:28:29,554 --> 00:28:31,643
I'm in pain all the time.
522
00:28:31,687 --> 00:28:33,471
Yeah, from shrapnel.
523
00:28:33,515 --> 00:28:35,082
You said from shrapnel...
- I know.
524
00:28:35,125 --> 00:28:36,866
- That hit the Jeep
and took out guys
525
00:28:36,910 --> 00:28:39,826
you were working with in Iraq.
526
00:28:39,869 --> 00:28:41,915
- I know.
- You said--you said
527
00:28:41,958 --> 00:28:44,134
you had a nursing degree
and a--
528
00:28:44,178 --> 00:28:47,050
a structure PhD
that made you an MD.
529
00:28:47,094 --> 00:28:49,487
You're not a doctor, John.
- I don't know.
530
00:28:49,531 --> 00:28:51,185
It was easier, lazier.
531
00:28:51,228 --> 00:28:52,447
My ego, whatever.
532
00:28:52,490 --> 00:28:54,188
To say "doctor," I just--
533
00:28:54,231 --> 00:28:56,799
you're so successful,
and I wanted--
534
00:28:56,843 --> 00:28:58,496
I just wanted...
- So it's my fault?
535
00:28:58,540 --> 00:29:00,455
- To be great for you.
- So now this is my fault
536
00:29:00,498 --> 00:29:02,413
that you--that you lied to me?
- I wanted to be great for you.
537
00:29:02,457 --> 00:29:04,676
- You're not a nurse,
you're not a doctor.
538
00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:06,113
You don't have any...
- No, that's not true.
539
00:29:06,156 --> 00:29:08,028
- Any license.
- That's not true.
540
00:29:08,071 --> 00:29:11,205
I had an appeal with
the California medical board
541
00:29:11,248 --> 00:29:13,555
last October,
and they granted me
542
00:29:13,598 --> 00:29:15,731
a conditional license--
just--only in this state--
543
00:29:15,775 --> 00:29:17,951
so I could keep working until
things got cleared up.
544
00:29:17,994 --> 00:29:20,736
So whoever told you that,
they--they do not have
545
00:29:20,780 --> 00:29:21,998
the latest result...
- You know what...
546
00:29:22,042 --> 00:29:23,913
- From the medical
appeals board.
547
00:29:23,957 --> 00:29:25,567
- I don't even care about that.
You know, I wanna know about
548
00:29:25,610 --> 00:29:27,003
all the other things
way back before that.
549
00:29:27,047 --> 00:29:28,483
- What other things?
550
00:29:28,526 --> 00:29:30,702
- "What other things?"
551
00:29:30,746 --> 00:29:32,487
You tell me, John.
552
00:29:32,530 --> 00:29:35,664
Those papers
in the drawer?
553
00:29:37,884 --> 00:29:39,581
- You went in the office.
554
00:29:39,624 --> 00:29:41,496
You saw what was in the office.
555
00:29:41,539 --> 00:29:43,933
God.
-Yeah.
556
00:29:43,977 --> 00:29:44,978
I saw that stuff.
557
00:29:45,021 --> 00:29:47,154
What was that stuff?
558
00:29:50,766 --> 00:29:52,899
- My ex, Tonia.
559
00:29:52,942 --> 00:29:55,075
She was having an affair.
560
00:29:55,118 --> 00:29:57,207
She got the divorce
to be with him.
561
00:29:57,251 --> 00:30:00,167
He got bored, so she pretended
562
00:30:00,210 --> 00:30:01,864
to be scared of me.
563
00:30:01,908 --> 00:30:03,997
She filed a restraining order
just to show him.
564
00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:06,173
Just to keep him interested.
- There's so many
565
00:30:06,216 --> 00:30:09,611
restraining orders.
- They are not me!
566
00:30:09,654 --> 00:30:11,613
They're people with, like,
a similar name--
567
00:30:11,656 --> 00:30:13,615
- Well, then how come cops
and lawyers
568
00:30:13,658 --> 00:30:15,747
and people that, you know,
569
00:30:15,791 --> 00:30:20,100
get paid to find
these things out, they...
570
00:30:20,143 --> 00:30:22,102
they say they are you.
- I have asked myself
571
00:30:22,145 --> 00:30:23,538
that question so many times.
572
00:30:23,581 --> 00:30:24,887
I don't know the answer.
573
00:30:24,931 --> 00:30:26,976
I mean, maybe the people
that, you know,
574
00:30:27,020 --> 00:30:28,891
put the information in
do it wrong.
575
00:30:28,935 --> 00:30:31,241
I don't know,
but you do a database search
576
00:30:31,285 --> 00:30:33,113
and they all come up.
577
00:30:33,156 --> 00:30:34,244
I tried to get a lawyer
to, like, separate me
578
00:30:34,288 --> 00:30:35,942
from them, expunge them.
579
00:30:35,985 --> 00:30:37,639
You can do that if you can
afford a lawyer,
580
00:30:37,682 --> 00:30:39,946
but I couldn't.
581
00:30:46,735 --> 00:30:49,869
- I found so many
other things, John.
582
00:30:49,912 --> 00:30:52,219
What about the cops in Laguna?
583
00:30:52,262 --> 00:30:54,308
They said you--you tried
to kill them.
584
00:30:54,351 --> 00:30:55,570
- Come on.
585
00:30:55,613 --> 00:30:57,093
No charges were ever filed.
586
00:30:57,137 --> 00:30:59,008
Just because someone files
a report doesn't mean
587
00:30:59,052 --> 00:31:00,749
that's what happened.
588
00:31:00,792 --> 00:31:03,230
It's nothing.
589
00:31:04,579 --> 00:31:06,711
Once you're in the system,
the cops, they just keep
590
00:31:06,755 --> 00:31:08,800
pulling your chain.
591
00:31:08,844 --> 00:31:10,063
You're the bad guy.
592
00:31:10,106 --> 00:31:13,283
It's so easy for them,
and, you know...
593
00:31:13,327 --> 00:31:15,155
No one stops them
594
00:31:15,198 --> 00:31:17,897
or checks on them.
595
00:31:19,724 --> 00:31:22,684
- Did you build a gun?
596
00:31:22,727 --> 00:31:24,729
The police say
they found knives,
597
00:31:24,773 --> 00:31:26,906
they found cyanide.
598
00:31:26,949 --> 00:31:29,256
Why would you have cyanide?
599
00:31:31,258 --> 00:31:34,696
- I wasn't gonna tell you
this stuff because...
600
00:31:36,611 --> 00:31:38,874
So much of what I thought
601
00:31:38,918 --> 00:31:41,877
I had done to myself...
602
00:31:41,921 --> 00:31:44,140
with the drugs--
the numbness,
603
00:31:44,184 --> 00:31:46,229
the tingling, the--
604
00:31:46,273 --> 00:31:50,712
the balance, everything...
605
00:31:50,755 --> 00:31:55,760
It turns out it was MS.
606
00:31:55,804 --> 00:31:58,720
Which is impossible to treat,
607
00:31:58,763 --> 00:32:03,203
so I told myself...
608
00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:08,077
That if it ever got too much
609
00:32:08,121 --> 00:32:10,210
that the cyanide would help me.
610
00:32:10,253 --> 00:32:14,083
And it did help me
just knowing that I had it.
611
00:32:17,391 --> 00:32:23,223
But I'd have done that
I would never have met you.
612
00:32:23,266 --> 00:32:25,921
After Tonia got me arrested...
613
00:32:25,965 --> 00:32:29,011
when I was awaiting trial,
614
00:32:29,055 --> 00:32:31,709
I went to a motel...
615
00:32:31,753 --> 00:32:36,149
With my med bag...
616
00:32:36,192 --> 00:32:39,065
And a bottle of vodka...
617
00:32:44,287 --> 00:32:47,116
But I didn't have
the right sized syringe,
618
00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:49,640
so I didn't die.
619
00:32:49,684 --> 00:32:51,773
I passed out and I fell
off the bed
620
00:32:51,816 --> 00:32:53,905
and I woke up...
621
00:32:57,866 --> 00:33:00,956
Covered in blood
from the bottle
622
00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:02,262
waiting for someone to find me.
623
00:33:02,305 --> 00:33:04,264
I told you it was shrapnel...
624
00:33:04,307 --> 00:33:06,918
but I'm the shrapnel.
625
00:33:06,962 --> 00:33:09,051
The drugs...
626
00:33:10,792 --> 00:33:12,054
They explode me.
627
00:33:12,098 --> 00:33:14,056
They make me lie,
628
00:33:14,100 --> 00:33:16,841
they make me steal...
629
00:33:16,885 --> 00:33:18,713
and they make me hurt
the people
630
00:33:18,756 --> 00:33:22,238
that I love the most.
631
00:33:22,282 --> 00:33:25,024
Especially you.
632
00:33:25,067 --> 00:33:27,983
Can I just say one thing
before you go?
633
00:33:30,029 --> 00:33:33,162
All those times that I said
that you deserve the best?
634
00:33:33,206 --> 00:33:36,470
I meant it.
635
00:33:36,513 --> 00:33:39,125
You're incredible.
636
00:33:39,168 --> 00:33:41,214
I lied.
I lied about me,
637
00:33:41,257 --> 00:33:44,347
about my past,
about my job...
638
00:33:48,873 --> 00:33:50,310
But not about you.
639
00:33:50,353 --> 00:33:52,747
I never lied about how much
640
00:33:52,790 --> 00:33:55,924
I love you, Deb.
641
00:34:13,855 --> 00:34:15,900
Hey, we don't have
642
00:34:15,944 --> 00:34:17,946
a receptionist
right at the moment.
643
00:34:17,989 --> 00:34:20,992
She, um--
who is your appointment with?
644
00:34:21,036 --> 00:34:22,820
- I'm here to see
Gregory Reedus.
645
00:34:22,864 --> 00:34:24,648
That's me.
646
00:34:24,692 --> 00:34:26,302
both: Hi.
- Greg.
647
00:34:26,346 --> 00:34:29,479
- I'm Arlane Hart.
648
00:34:29,523 --> 00:34:32,003
I'm Cindi Sellar's mother.
649
00:34:32,047 --> 00:34:34,832
- Yeah, I know who you, um--
650
00:34:34,876 --> 00:34:37,008
I can't, talk to you.
651
00:34:37,052 --> 00:34:38,967
- Mr. Reedus...
- I'm really sorry, but I--
652
00:34:39,010 --> 00:34:40,490
I can't.
- Mr. Reedus, you have
653
00:34:40,534 --> 00:34:41,752
to let me--
- Maybe you're confused,
654
00:34:41,796 --> 00:34:43,580
which is normal and it's fine,
655
00:34:43,624 --> 00:34:47,323
but, Lisa Usher
at the DA's office, she--
656
00:34:47,367 --> 00:34:50,587
she would be the one
who you should, talk to.
657
00:34:50,631 --> 00:34:53,024
- I--I know
whose lawyer you are.
658
00:34:53,068 --> 00:34:55,766
- Okay, so...
659
00:34:55,810 --> 00:34:58,247
then why are you here?
660
00:35:03,731 --> 00:35:06,603
Mom, it's me.
-Hi, hun.
661
00:35:06,647 --> 00:35:08,866
- Hi!
- Hi.
662
00:35:08,910 --> 00:35:11,826
- I got you a chai latte.
- Thank you.
663
00:35:11,869 --> 00:35:14,394
- My God, this room
is even uglier in daylight.
664
00:35:15,917 --> 00:35:18,572
What were you doing?
-You know,
665
00:35:18,615 --> 00:35:22,358
I'm trying to get
some work done.
666
00:35:22,402 --> 00:35:24,447
- Nice.
- What's that?
667
00:35:24,491 --> 00:35:26,014
It's a GPS tracker.
668
00:35:26,057 --> 00:35:28,277
I put it on your car
at Christmas.
669
00:35:28,321 --> 00:35:30,888
- You put it on my car?
- Yeah.
670
00:35:30,932 --> 00:35:33,891
To follow John, remember?
671
00:35:33,935 --> 00:35:36,372
No, I did not remember.
- Yeah, I said that one of us
672
00:35:36,416 --> 00:35:37,895
should put one on there,
and you said if it would
673
00:35:37,939 --> 00:35:39,549
make me happy I should do it...
674
00:35:39,593 --> 00:35:41,551
So I did.
675
00:35:41,595 --> 00:35:45,294
Well, I--I don't think
I was serious, Ronnie.
676
00:35:45,338 --> 00:35:46,861
- Well, okay.
677
00:35:46,904 --> 00:35:49,820
I mean, it didn't show
anything that weird, so...
678
00:35:50,865 --> 00:35:52,823
I forgot to take it off
your car so I did that
679
00:35:52,867 --> 00:35:54,303
this morning.
680
00:35:54,347 --> 00:35:56,044
Thank you.
681
00:35:58,089 --> 00:36:00,353
Did you get the annulment?
- Yep.
682
00:36:00,396 --> 00:36:02,529
Yeah, I did.
I--I, you know, signed all
683
00:36:02,572 --> 00:36:04,400
the paperwork, and...
684
00:36:04,444 --> 00:36:05,575
Good.
685
00:36:05,619 --> 00:36:07,664
- What about the will?
686
00:36:07,708 --> 00:36:08,926
- I changed the will
687
00:36:08,970 --> 00:36:11,538
and had it notarized, so...
688
00:36:12,887 --> 00:36:14,845
- God damn, who is texting you
so much?
689
00:36:16,630 --> 00:36:17,935
Well, I mean, I'm not
in the office so, you know,
690
00:36:17,979 --> 00:36:20,373
they're just trying
to track me down.
691
00:36:20,416 --> 00:36:23,463
- Yep.
Speaking of which...
692
00:36:24,638 --> 00:36:25,813
I should go.
693
00:36:25,856 --> 00:36:27,423
- Thanks for coming by,
sweetie.
694
00:36:27,467 --> 00:36:28,903
Of course.
695
00:36:28,946 --> 00:36:30,426
- It's nice.
696
00:36:31,993 --> 00:36:34,778
- I love you so much.
- I love you, too.
697
00:36:34,822 --> 00:36:36,563
So much.
698
00:36:36,606 --> 00:36:38,608
Okay, but you're
squishing me now.
699
00:36:40,349 --> 00:36:42,351
God, that was quite
the squeeze.
700
00:36:42,395 --> 00:36:44,484
Well, I love you.
701
00:36:44,527 --> 00:36:45,789
- Yeah.
I'll see you later.
702
00:36:45,833 --> 00:36:48,009
Remember, we're FaceTiming
Terra at 3:00.
703
00:36:48,052 --> 00:36:49,706
Yes.
-So I'll see you then, right?
704
00:36:49,750 --> 00:36:50,968
- Okay.
705
00:36:51,012 --> 00:36:52,579
Thank you for this--
for the chai.
706
00:36:52,622 --> 00:36:54,798
- Bye.
- Bye.
707
00:37:16,516 --> 00:37:19,345
- Ma'am.
- Thank you.
708
00:38:00,081 --> 00:38:02,388
- When was the last time
you spoke to Bobby
709
00:38:02,431 --> 00:38:03,954
prior to the incident?
710
00:38:03,998 --> 00:38:06,000
- That morning, actually,
at our house.
711
00:38:06,043 --> 00:38:07,654
He and Toby were staying
at our house.
712
00:38:07,697 --> 00:38:09,786
- When was the last time
that you spoke to Bobby
713
00:38:09,830 --> 00:38:13,573
about the state of his
and Cindi's marriage?
714
00:38:13,616 --> 00:38:16,837
- Um, that was Wednesday
the fourth.
715
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:18,752
Three days before.
716
00:38:18,795 --> 00:38:20,623
- What's he like
in that conversation?
717
00:38:20,667 --> 00:38:23,017
What's his demeanor?
718
00:38:23,060 --> 00:38:25,236
He was so upset
719
00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:28,892
and--and crying so hard.
720
00:38:28,936 --> 00:38:31,547
He just felt that things
were over between them
721
00:38:31,591 --> 00:38:33,549
and he was so lost.
722
00:38:33,593 --> 00:38:35,246
- How long had you been aware,
723
00:38:35,290 --> 00:38:37,771
that the marriage
was in trouble?
724
00:38:37,814 --> 00:38:40,904
- By the time Cindi spoke to us
725
00:38:40,948 --> 00:38:43,559
it seemed as if things
were already very bad.
726
00:38:43,603 --> 00:38:46,214
But when Bobby spoke to me...
727
00:38:46,257 --> 00:38:48,216
um, he seemed completely
728
00:38:48,259 --> 00:38:50,436
taken by surprise.
729
00:38:50,479 --> 00:38:51,872
Completely surprised,
730
00:38:51,915 --> 00:38:55,005
and he wanted to save it.
731
00:38:55,049 --> 00:38:56,920
- Because he loved her.
732
00:38:56,964 --> 00:38:58,835
So much.
733
00:38:58,879 --> 00:39:01,055
He loved her so much.
734
00:39:01,098 --> 00:39:03,187
- Did he tell you
any of the things
735
00:39:03,231 --> 00:39:05,451
that he had done to try
736
00:39:05,494 --> 00:39:08,671
and save the marriage?
737
00:39:08,715 --> 00:39:11,282
- He, um, had changed
some of his behavior.
738
00:39:11,326 --> 00:39:13,981
Um, he went to see
739
00:39:14,024 --> 00:39:15,635
our pastor with her.
740
00:39:15,678 --> 00:39:19,465
They went to counseling--
months of counseling.
741
00:39:19,508 --> 00:39:21,684
Um, he agreed
to a separation,
742
00:39:21,728 --> 00:39:23,947
agreed to sell their house.
743
00:39:23,991 --> 00:39:26,950
You know, to live separately
for perspective
744
00:39:26,994 --> 00:39:29,039
and for...
745
00:39:29,083 --> 00:39:31,607
absence to make her heart
746
00:39:31,651 --> 00:39:33,174
grow fonder.
747
00:39:33,217 --> 00:39:35,219
And, um...
748
00:39:35,263 --> 00:39:38,527
and he spoke to me.
749
00:39:38,571 --> 00:39:40,877
You can imagine,
a man having to come
750
00:39:40,921 --> 00:39:43,053
to his mother-in-law
for help...
751
00:39:43,097 --> 00:39:45,795
and to cry in front of her.
752
00:39:45,839 --> 00:39:49,059
- And did any of the things
that he tried work?
753
00:39:51,975 --> 00:39:53,281
- No.
754
00:39:53,324 --> 00:39:56,806
Um, he was doing it thinking
that he could--
755
00:39:56,850 --> 00:40:00,027
if he did, he could keep
Cindi with him, but...
756
00:40:00,070 --> 00:40:03,770
you know, I--I don't think
he ever had a chance,
757
00:40:03,813 --> 00:40:06,729
and when he came
to realize that...
758
00:40:07,774 --> 00:40:09,558
- Prior to the incident,
759
00:40:09,602 --> 00:40:12,518
how did you feel about Bobby?
760
00:40:12,561 --> 00:40:14,563
I--I loved him.
761
00:40:14,607 --> 00:40:16,173
Loved him very much.
762
00:40:16,217 --> 00:40:18,872
He had such a pure heart.
763
00:40:18,915 --> 00:40:21,962
I mean, his--his whole life
was Cindi and Toby.
764
00:40:22,005 --> 00:40:25,008
Um, working for their family,
their life together
765
00:40:25,052 --> 00:40:28,098
as a--as a family.
766
00:40:28,142 --> 00:40:30,579
- How do you feel
about him now?
767
00:40:31,754 --> 00:40:33,930
- I still love him.
768
00:40:33,974 --> 00:40:35,715
- You love him.
769
00:40:36,846 --> 00:40:39,022
- I do.
- Even after everything
770
00:40:39,066 --> 00:40:40,546
that happened?
771
00:40:43,374 --> 00:40:45,551
- Bobby asked me
the same question.
772
00:40:45,594 --> 00:40:47,857
- Because it's very difficult
to understand,
773
00:40:47,901 --> 00:40:51,992
if not impossible.
774
00:40:52,035 --> 00:40:54,255
- Bobby did a--
a terrible thing.
775
00:40:57,693 --> 00:41:00,870
The worst thing.
776
00:41:00,914 --> 00:41:03,220
I hate what he did.
777
00:41:03,264 --> 00:41:07,224
And I told him that, I--I did.
778
00:41:07,268 --> 00:41:09,836
But if he had been
in his right mind
779
00:41:09,879 --> 00:41:13,709
he could never have done that.
780
00:41:13,753 --> 00:41:16,756
So what he did doesn't...
781
00:41:16,799 --> 00:41:19,759
doesn't change what I believe
about him.
782
00:41:23,284 --> 00:41:24,851
I can still love Bobby,
783
00:41:24,894 --> 00:41:27,418
and I forgive him...
784
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because I want to forgive him.
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Because of what I know.
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I know...
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his heart was full of love.
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He just--
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he just lost his way.
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