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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:22,320 --> 00:00:27,440 So, I started working with my father more-oMess in those years, 2 00:00:27,440 --> 00:00:34,680 during the period in which we made these films we're talking about. 3 00:00:34,680 --> 00:00:39,400 To be precise I started working with my father in the States, 4 00:00:39,400 --> 00:00:44,240 on a mm called “Cannibal Apocalypse", very much Ioved by Quentin Tarantino. 5 00:00:44,240 --> 00:00:47,960 I did a bit of everything on that. 6 00:00:47,960 --> 00:00:52,640 GeneraHy I began as a still photographer and then I would play small parts... 7 00:00:52,640 --> 00:00:58,840 N one 9mm was a sckxxer hanümg a “amemtow er, 8 00:00:58,840 --> 00:01:02,280 with a gas-mask, so I'm not recognizable. 9 00:01:02,320 --> 00:01:15,320 We shot 85% of the film in the States and some of the 10 00:01:15,320 --> 00:01:22,960 remaining special effects in a sound stage back in Italy. 11 00:01:22,960 --> 00:01:29,640 The whole crew would play a role. 12 00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:40,640 For example “we have to shoot in Rome and the Philippines, who is available?” 13 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:45,240 “The pmüucuon cuorüinauzr. 0K, kgnaixo hohe man go. 14 00:01:45,240 --> 00:01:51,040 Edoardo can p\ay this, Mario can play that”. 15 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:55,120 We would all have to improvise ourselves actors, 16 00:01:55,120 --> 00:02:00,760 who was good and who Iess, Iike myselfthat was a real dog! 17 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:08,720 At the end of the day we had fun and it was a way of enriching the film. 18 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:14,760 For years I would foHow also the special effects of my fathefs mm3. 19 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:19,600 I would du the models and then I became supervisor of the special effecis. 20 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:26,600 Since I was a child I have always had the hobby modelling... 21 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:31,320 Even now I fix and build furniture all around the house. 22 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:36,920 Sa huomed im my (am: im as a phomgrapher, 23 00:02:36,920 --> 00:02:40,240 then as an AD, second unit director and 24 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:45,560 finally model and special effect supervisor. 25 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:50,360 After I began a career as a production manager 26 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:53,520 and general organizer and I did some mms 27 00:02:53,520 --> 00:02:56,160 with him even in that department. 28 00:02:56,160 --> 00:03:04,640 Immediately after that mm in the States, “Cannibal Apocalypse" 29 00:03:04,640 --> 00:03:11,040 the great adventure in the Philippines began 30 00:03:11,040 --> 00:03:15,120 where my father and I made 13/14 mms. 31 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:19,640 Twewe he directed while I did anothertwo... 32 00:03:19,640 --> 00:03:24,240 we really vented as much as we could... 33 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:33,080 In those years afterthe success of films such as "Apocalypse Now' 34 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:35,760 and “The Deer Huntef' by Michael Cimino 35 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:38,600 this era of the Vietnam movie began. 36 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:41,680 The return of the action and war movies, 37 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:47,200 often set in Vietnam and with controversial characters. 38 00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:50,760 Something that my father Iiked a Iot. 39 00:03:50,760 --> 00:03:55,240 With a script written by Dardano Sacchetti, 40 00:03:55,240 --> 00:04:00,480 an adventure began between my father and Gianfranco Couyoumdjian, 41 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:05,200 first with Flora Film and then with Gico Cinematografica. 42 00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:11,480 The first one was “The Last Hunter" which was initially 43 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:15,520 caHed “The Deer Hunter 2". Posters had been printed 44 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:17,640 with this title 45 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:26,440 butthen Universal, or whoever had the rights of Ciminds mm, 46 00:04:26,440 --> 00:04:33,720 basically threatened they would sue and so it became “The Last Hunter... 47 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:39,480 You could see the posters around with a sticker covering the old title. 48 00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:46,680 That film began the \ove affair between my father and the Philippines. 49 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:54,480 He got his team of writers, Iike Dardano Sacchetti, 50 00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:57,560 Giovanni Simonelli and others, 51 00:04:57,560 --> 00:05:02,840 to write a series of mm3 that could be set in thejung\e. 52 00:05:02,840 --> 00:05:10,640 The follow-up was “The Hunters ofthe Golden Cobra“ 53 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:13,840 which I didn't participate in because I was doing 54 00:05:13,840 --> 00:05:16,120 my military Service. 55 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:20,560 Immediately after came “Fuga dalVarchipelago maledetto“, 56 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:22,120 heuer known as “Tiger Aue“ . 57 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:24,640 If I recall correctly “Tiger Joe” 58 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:31,440 had a different setting, during World War II 59 00:05:31,440 --> 00:05:36,880 and it takes place in Cambodia. 60 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:44,040 A (um mm sxamng Jahn Steine: am Davmwameck... 61 00:05:44,040 --> 00:05:49,720 by that time a real team and been created. 62 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:55,040 With “The Last Hunter“ my father discovered David Warbeck, 63 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:58,920 that had anyway come from some important experiences, 64 00:05:58,920 --> 00:06:01,680 even with the Iikes of Sergio Leone on “Duck You Sucker... 65 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:06,160 He had made some films also with Roger Corman, 66 00:06:06,160 --> 00:06:13,360 and he had previously auditioned to be the next 007. 67 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:21,760 He wasn't ab\e to get that role but he nonetheless 68 00:06:21,760 --> 00:06:25,720 managen k: haue a gcmd am prehüc career hexe 69 00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:28,680 in Italy working with my father 70 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:31,400 but also subsequently with Fulci, Lenzi and others... 71 00:06:31,400 --> 00:06:37,440 He made about seven with my father and “Tiger Joe" 72 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:43,840 is the most fun ofthe \ot. 73 00:06:44,040 --> 00:06:48,040 That was also the period of Indiana Jones. 74 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:56,000 I remember {hat around 1981, roughly when "Raiders of the Lost Ark” 75 00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:59,560 was released, my father came back from a trip in the States. 76 00:06:59,560 --> 00:07:04,280 I wen! to pick him up at the airport and we wen! out for dinner. 77 00:07:04,280 --> 00:07:14,320 There he seemed Hke that scene in “The Blues Brothers" - “I've seen the Hght“... 78 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:17,040 I had never seen him this excited: 79 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:21,440 “I have seen an amazing film in America". “This is how you make films“. 80 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:24,160 “Ihm man 1s a gemus” . 81 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:26,160 He was talking about “Raiders of the Lost Ark... 82 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:29,120 He described to me in detail the first scene with the giant 83 00:07:29,120 --> 00:07:32,200 stone ball chasing Indiana Jones. 84 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:38,920 From that moment onwards we started alternating adventure 85 00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:47,720 war (“ms m mure dramaflxc war armes, 86 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:55,440 with complex characters dealing with the atrocities of war 87 00:07:55,440 --> 00:07:58,560 Iike the ones set in Vietnam- things Hke 88 00:07:58,560 --> 00:08:02,640 “The Last Hunter“ and “Tornado”... 89 00:08:02,640 --> 00:08:07,960 Alternating these with more Iight comedic adventure 90 00:08:07,960 --> 00:08:10,520 films which reminded you of Indiana Jones. 91 00:08:10,520 --> 00:08:18,160 One examme woum be “Junge Raums“ wmch was a mbn bemeen 92 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:21,320 “Romancing the Stone" and the Indiana Jones films... 93 00:08:21,320 --> 00:08:23,080 In that there was also Lee Van Cleef, 94 00:08:23,080 --> 00:08:27,560 another iconic figure in my fathefls cinema. 95 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:34,280 That was a very rich period, we had a Iot of fun 96 00:08:34,320 --> 00:08:43,480 and those were films that attracted the foreign market. 97 00:08:43,480 --> 00:08:46,680 You could seH them easily. 98 00:08:46,680 --> 00:08:50,320 I mean that you just needed Japan and South Korea 99 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:54,720 to cover the film's costs. AII the rest was money 100 00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:57,840 for the producer and the international distributors. 101 00:08:57,840 --> 00:09:01,960 The request was high. We didn't manage to finish 102 00:09:01,960 --> 00:09:05,960 one that another two films were put in the making. 103 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:14,560 I would have to interrupt my work on the models of one film to run 104 00:09:14,560 --> 00:09:17,480 to the PhiHppines to Start preparation on the next. 105 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:21,720 It was quick work, even because after some time 106 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:25,520 we knew exacfly where to shoot, we knew that 107 00:09:25,520 --> 00:09:28,680 territory perfectly, you know 14 mms in the same p\ace... 108 00:09:28,680 --> 00:09:32,280 “We can shoot that scene near the Iake" 109 00:09:32,280 --> 00:09:40,120 or “do you rememberthat hut near that restaurant? 110 00:09:40,160 --> 00:09:43,560 We can shoot something there... 111 00:09:43,560 --> 00:09:47,400 “was a m: iun. A vew aürenaune fiuefled 112 00:09:47,400 --> 00:09:50,400 perlen am: a üecade afi (anmsuc wenn. 113 00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:54,640 The eighties was still a great period and not only for us. 114 00:09:54,640 --> 00:10:02,160 I remember we would bump into Ruggero Deodato, 115 00:10:02,160 --> 00:10:07,200 in the Philippines, shooting three kilometres away from us. 116 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:14,240 We wqum shate the Same base camp, im examme. 117 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:19,440 I also recall crossing paths with Lucio Fulci who was 118 00:10:19,440 --> 00:10:24,240 there shooting “Zombi or was it number 3... “Zombi 3" 119 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:28,200 lt was fun.. 120 00:10:29,080 --> 00:10:37,080 I have only one bad memory of “Tiger Joe”. 121 00:10:37,080 --> 00:10:41,800 As we were saying before you can't talk about this mm 122 00:10:41,800 --> 00:10:45,720 without mentioning the fact that during the making, 123 00:10:45,720 --> 00:10:48,920 cinematographer Riccardo Pallottini died 124 00:10:48,920 --> 00:10:55,240 while shooting from a plane, as my father was filming 125 00:10:55,240 --> 00:11:01,560 from the ground as the plane flew over the jungle. 126 00:11:01,560 --> 00:11:12,360 The plane was flying pretty Iow, near the palm trees... 127 00:11:12,360 --> 00:11:16,760 Ifs not clear what happened, and weWI never know 128 00:11:16,760 --> 00:11:25,680 because out of the three people on the plane none survived. 129 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:30,920 Maybe for a malfunction in the engine or a problem with the pHot... 130 00:11:30,920 --> 00:11:35,280 Anyway one of the wings hit a tree and the plane crashed 131 00:11:35,720 --> 00:11:39,560 to the ground. lt was the very last day of production. 132 00:11:39,560 --> 00:11:48,600 My father was desperate. They had been friends forthirty years. 133 00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:53,280 The first film my father directed was with Pallottini, 134 00:11:53,280 --> 00:11:57,200 actually not the very first, not “Space Men“, 135 00:11:57,200 --> 00:12:01,880 butthe first important, remembered film of fathers, “Castle of B\ood... 136 00:12:01,880 --> 00:12:07,720 One ofthe films most shown during retrospectives. 137 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:14,600 “Was a deep mendship, he hat: done me phomgraphy 138 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:17,640 of our first film in the Philippines, “The Last Hunter“, 139 00:12:17,640 --> 00:12:21,840 and also the second one, “The Hunters ofthe Golden Cobra“ 140 00:12:22,760 --> 00:12:28,520 foHowed by this damned third instalment... 141 00:12:30,040 --> 00:12:36,480 The crew was practically always the same, 142 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:43,600 the technicians were the same, I would always be the 1st AD... 143 00:12:44,560 --> 00:12:49,640 Mario Sbrenna, the camera Operator, was afraid of heights, 144 00:12:49,640 --> 00:12:52,880 and would hate to fly, so whenever we had to place 145 00:12:52,880 --> 00:12:55,360 a camera thirty metres from the ground 146 00:12:55,360 --> 00:13:06,000 on a tree or dangling from a window I was usually the one to du it. 147 00:13:08,840 --> 00:13:15,240 So if I had been presentwhile shooting that scene 148 00:13:15,240 --> 00:13:21,520 mayhe mngs wuuki have been «Metern. 149 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:26,080 Mayhe we wcum haue shm max stehe answer üay im examme, 150 00:13:26,080 --> 00:13:33,840 or maybe I would have died instead of Riccardo. 151 00:13:33,840 --> 00:13:38,600 I used to keep in my wallet -unti\ in disintegrated 152 00:13:38,600 --> 00:13:45,080 in time- a small photo of Riccardo, taken on the set 153 00:13:45,080 --> 00:13:50,760 of “The Last Hunter", with him Iying down in a 154 00:13:50,800 --> 00:13:57,880 canoe ho\ding the camera, while shooting David Warbeck 155 00:13:57,880 --> 00:14:04,360 an me rapids oi Paksanan. Thmwas me area which 156 00:14:04,360 --> 00:14:08,480 we would oflen use as a home-base, 157 00:14:08,480 --> 00:14:12,160 about 50KM from Manila, so quite convenient. 158 00:14:12,600 --> 00:14:22,800 Anthony M. Dawson is recognizame for many reasons: 159 00:14:22,800 --> 00:14:27,200 first of all fortechnique, 160 00:14:27,200 --> 00:14:29,080 he had a great command ofthe medium. 161 00:14:29,920 --> 00:14:35,240 He was able to tell you what he was going to shoot from 162 00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:37,680 seven in the morning to seven in evening, 163 00:14:37,680 --> 00:14:39,600 frame by frame, every single shot. 164 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:42,200 He had everything in his head, how he was going to edit, 165 00:14:42,200 --> 00:14:45,320 he would never shoot what wasn't necessary. 166 00:14:45,320 --> 00:14:49,440 This is the reason my fathefls films Iook so rich despite 167 00:14:49,440 --> 00:14:53,040 haximg maüe xhem "m (nur o? fwe weeks. 168 00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:55,800 An amount of time which now you use 169 00:14:55,800 --> 00:14:57,880 to do an episode of a television series. 170 00:14:57,880 --> 00:15:01,480 Films with a Iot of cuts, every ree! could contain 171 00:15:01,480 --> 00:15:05,200 300 different shots. It was really quite impressive. 172 00:15:05,200 --> 00:15:07,720 He would never shoot what was superfluous. 173 00:15:07,720 --> 00:15:14,280 If an actor had to say one Iine in a close-up he would say 174 00:15:14,280 --> 00:15:23,480 just that Iine. He knew how the film was going to be edited. 175 00:15:23,480 --> 00:15:28,160 Another characteristic of my fathefs style was 176 00:15:28,160 --> 00:15:31,480 the camera movement and the Ienses he would use. 177 00:15:31,480 --> 00:15:36,000 Anuthet mm9 he was am m du was know 178 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:41,520 precisely what you could see with any given Wens. 179 00:15:41,520 --> 00:15:45,840 “Ifwe put an 18" then we can see from here to there". 180 00:15:45,840 --> 00:15:51,160 Once you Iooked in camera you would realize {hat he was perfectly right. 181 00:15:51,160 --> 00:15:53,880 Many directors nowadays wouldn't even 182 00:15:53,880 --> 00:15:55,520 now what we're ta\king about. 183 00:15:55,520 --> 00:15:58,200 They probably don't even know what an 18" Iens is, 184 00:15:58,200 --> 00:16:02,040 but even so ifasked they aren't capable of telling you 185 00:16:02,040 --> 00:16:06,200 what and how much you can frame with a 35" Iens, for examme. 186 00:16:06,200 --> 00:16:09,160 He was spectacular in this. 187 00:16:09,160 --> 00:16:14,080 He also hand quite a creativity when it came 188 00:16:14,080 --> 00:16:23,320 to conceiving shots. I remember in “Cannibal Apocalypse" 189 00:16:23,320 --> 00:16:27,520 there was a scene in a medical studio with a crystal 190 00:16:27,520 --> 00:16:31,960 table and surgical instruments placed on them 191 00:16:31,960 --> 00:16:34,960 and he chose to shoot itwith a doHy-shot passing under the tames, 192 00:16:34,960 --> 00:16:39,760 shooting the actors through the crystal of the tab\e's surface. 193 00:16:39,800 --> 00:16:50,760 Ifs not a thing that many would have thought of... 194 00:16:51,320 --> 00:16:55,560 Needless to say the biggest signature of Antonio Margheriti 195 00:16:55,560 --> 00:16:58,400 are the models and the explosions. 196 00:16:58,400 --> 00:17:01,240 He would be the first to say so. 197 00:17:01,280 --> 00:17:07,080 In the budget estimates for my fathers films there would 198 00:17:07,080 --> 00:17:10,160 always be a voice, which would be pretty hefty, 199 00:17:10,160 --> 00:17:15,040 forgasoline, special fuels and special effects 200 00:17:15,040 --> 00:17:23,040 amounts that fot other mms were nothing for us was quiet a sum. 201 00:17:23,040 --> 00:17:25,880 We made everything explode. 202 00:17:25,880 --> 00:17:33,560 Lefs take one of the richest films from this point-of-view, 203 00:17:33,560 --> 00:17:36,840 “Commando Leopard" - one of the instalments 204 00:17:36,840 --> 00:17:42,240 of the trilogy ofmms produced by Erwin C. Dietrich for Ascot, in Berlin. 205 00:17:42,240 --> 00:17:49,120 Those were expansive films with big casts and we had 206 00:17:49,120 --> 00:17:56,880 at our disposal dozens, maybe hundreds, ofmillions of Iira 207 00:17:56,880 --> 00:18:00,240 to do the special effects, at the end of principal photography, 208 00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:03,760 when usuaHy we would have practically nothing Iefl to do them. 209 00:18:04,040 --> 00:18:12,760 We built a fleet of airmanes forthe Ianding of a DC9, 210 00:18:12,760 --> 00:18:17,720 six metres in Iength and seven of wing-opening. 211 00:18:17,720 --> 00:18:26,400 It Ianded with cables attached to two industrial 212 00:18:26,400 --> 00:18:31,960 cranes at night and it exmodes as it touches the ground. 213 00:18:31,960 --> 00:18:38,360 Years Iater we saw something similar on a “Die Hard" movies, 214 00:18:38,360 --> 00:18:39,920 possibly number two, 215 00:18:39,920 --> 00:18:44,200 and despite their money and resources... 216 00:18:44,200 --> 00:18:48,280 I don't want to say ours is better butwe are on the same Ievel. 217 00:18:48,280 --> 00:18:55,320 Us Italians, building things with our own hands... 218 00:18:55,320 --> 00:19:01,560 well this craftsmanship has always been a reason of pride. 219 00:19:01,560 --> 00:19:07,680 On that film we blew up everything: dams, trains, planes, helicopters, 220 00:19:07,680 --> 00:19:20,960 villages attacked by mercenaries. 221 00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:30,400 The signature of my father are the special effects. He would say the explosions. 222 00:19:30,400 --> 00:19:38,040 I have memories of my father running at night to throw buckets of gasoline 223 00:19:38,040 --> 00:19:48,280 on fires to Iiven the flames as we would stay \ying on the ground. 224 00:19:48,280 --> 00:19:51,200 It really was very home-made and artisan-Iike. 225 00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:57,560 Itwasn't co\d and aseptic as it is today. 226 00:19:57,560 --> 00:20:03,680 We would be in shorts on the ground covering ourselves with dark mankets. 227 00:20:03,680 --> 00:20:08,640 Dbxecxs cm fue wouks Xnevitabb; end up an nur banks. 228 00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:12,560 Then a grip would come and extinguish the flames. 229 00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:25,200 This was the biggest trait of my father, plus some elements in the narrative: 230 00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:34,960 characters are neverwhatthey seem, he particularly Hked giving some shades 231 00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:43,960 of ambiguity to his heroes, even something negative. 232 00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:50,400 If you wanted you could notice these things and elaborate 233 00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:54,400 them but you could still choose to watch the film with innocence of child, 234 00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:58,760 which was the way my father would Iook at his films, 235 00:20:58,760 --> 00:21:02,920 he could just have fun and enjoy the action. 236 00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:11,160 This was something he did inteHigently and I'm not sure 237 00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:14,640 how many peopb haue nouoeü ms. 238 00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:27,160 For example in “Commando Leopard" Klaus Kinski 239 00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:32,800 is a character who beyond the perversions, the craziness - 240 00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:37,080 which is always the most apparent aspect in Kinski- 241 00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:44,680 he arrives with the machine - gun shouting and shooting Iike a mad man 242 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:53,320 but ifyou Iook closer you can find some subtlelies. 243 00:21:53,360 --> 00:21:57,280 Some have even noticed political connotations in his films, 244 00:21:57,280 --> 00:22:04,120 but in reaHty my father didn't Iike to talk about politics, 245 00:22:04,120 --> 00:22:12,560 and especially he didn't Iike mixing his genre with political elements. 246 00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:16,200 Although of course some of his films denounoe a Situation, 247 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:18,120 Iike all the films on the Vietnam war, 248 00:22:18,120 --> 00:22:20,720 Iike “The Last Hunter" and "Tornado" for example, 249 00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:28,240 he wouldn't approach the films with this attitude. 250 00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:33,640 He would do big entertainments, full of spectacular elements 251 00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:36,760 but also characters that having something to say and what they say 252 00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:43,160 can be interpreted as a Statement on the cruelty of war, 253 00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:49,240 on the other hand who chooses to do so can just enjoy the 254 00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:55,800 story of antihero involved in a situation biggerthan he is, 255 00:22:55,800 --> 00:23:04,680 fighting to protect the Ioca! population. 256 00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:08,920 Ms mm 'meresimg "m ms appmach. 257 00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:10,560 A secondary distinctive characteristic because 258 00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:13,080 the (m are a\ways me expknsiuns. 23683

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