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>> In California, the worst measles outbreak

in 15 years is spreading.

>> The virus is roaring back into the headlines tonight.

An outbreak, somehow traced to--

>> Someone who had probably caught measles abroad visited

Disneyland and may have sneezed.

>> Measles on the march in America.

>> This outbreak is showing no signs of letting

up there are already more cases this year than there were...

>> The number tripled

to 644 measles cases reported in 27 states.

>> I mean, is this all

basically because of the anti-vaccination movement?

Because parents aren't vaccinating their kids?

>> Yeah, you know, I think so.

>> A bill that would ban exemptions

from childhood vaccines is advancing

through the California legislature.

>> We are offering legislation

that will abolish the personal belief exemption.

>> I think you're starting to see why it is

that mandates are so important.

>> There has been some inaccurate information

circulating about vaccines, mostly stemming

from a British study linking vaccines to autism.

>> Still continued here, the vaccine caused autism,

even though that has been debunked.

>> Repeatedly and thoroughly debunked.

>> You may have heard vaccination causes autism

in one out of 110 children.

Fuck that.

Total bullshit.

It doesn't.

>> The bill requiring children to be vaccinated has passed

with bipartisan support.

Every child must meet immunization standards

before joining public schools, private schools and daycares.

>> I would strongly encourage everybody, look at the science,

look at the facts, CDC, the Center for Disease Control,

can give you good information.

Get your children vaccinated.

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[ Buzzing Sound ]

>> Hello?

>> I was sitting at my desk where I teach

at Simpson University.

My phone rings.

It's Dr. William Thompson.

>> Brian, you and I don't know each other very well.

I don't know how this is all going to play out.

You have a son with autism, and I have great shame now,

when I meet families with kids with autism.

Because I have been part of the problem.

>> My son Steven was born in February of 1998.

Steve, what does the cow say?

>> Moo.

>> Tweet, tweet.

>> Tweet!

>> Doggie.

>> Yeah.

>> Two weeks after his 15 month vaccines, he lost all language.

He lost all eye contact.

We pick him up and he would just hang limp.

This is a time where CDC was just starting

to do these studies on vaccines and autism.

As a scientist, I have over 60 technical

and scientific publications

in major international scientific journals,

and I was contacting the CDC

and was deeply critical of their studies.

And so the CDC decided that the scientist who was going

to interface with me at that time was Dr. William Thompson.

Because I was on his back, because he didn't

like what I was saying about the statistics, I received a letter

from a CDC attorney in 2004 saying

that I was no longer permitted to contact the CDC.

Fast forwarding to 2014, Thompson said to me,

"Brian if you listen to me, and if you do what I tell you to do,

I can guarantee you will be able to access a treasure trove

of data, and I would like to guide you through these steps.

>> So I wanted to be a resource, I wanted to be valuable to you.

I want you to have someone in the system...

>> For years, I had been trying

to crack this edifice of the CDC.

And just getting little glimpses of what was not right.

>> The CDC has put the research 10 years behind.

Because the CDC has not been transparent,

we've missed 10 years of research because the CDC

is so paralyzed right now by anything related to autism.

>> I am a licensed clinical psychologist

and a board certified behavior analyst.

In 1978, I want to say the prevalence of autism was

about 1 in 15,000 children.

It was a very rare disorder.

I was working at a clinic at UCLA,

which was pretty much the only known center

for treating children with autism, and we had maybe 6

to 10 children we were working with.

Somewhere around the early 90s, shortly after I opened card,

the growth of autism has been so high and so rapid

that I've never felt like I could ever catch up anymore.

From an official diagnostic perspective,

the way that we define autism, we were looking

at deficits in two areas.

The first is social communication

and social interaction.

And in that area we require three specific symptoms

to be present.

Symptoms such as no social emotional reciprocity.

No nonverbal communication.

That means eye contact, for instance.

Or no development of relationships.

The second required area of deficit is the presence

of stereotypic repetitive restricted behaviors.

And these are things like hand flapping, body rocking,

insistence on routines being the same.

One of the new additions is the presence

of a sensory dysregulation.

If a child has an inability to sense things correctly,

not necessarily hearing things the way we do,

that could be classified as a symptom of autism.

So you have five symptoms, two in the area

of repetitive behaviors, and three in the area

of social communication deficit,

then you will get a classification

of what is called autism spectrum disorder, ASD.

>> We begin though, as always, keeping them honest.

Breaking news tonight, just hours ago,

the British Medical Journal, the BMJ,

did something extremely rare for a scientific journal.

It accused a researcher, Andrew Wakefield, of outright fraud.

>> I got a call on the 19th of May 1995

from a mother telling me the story of her child,

his regression into autism following a vaccine,

and I said "How can I help you?

I know nothing about autism.

You've come through the wrong number."

And she said, "No, doctor,

my child has terrible gastrointestinal issues,

and no one will take them seriously."

I was an academic gastroenterologist doing

research with a particular interest in Crohn's disease,

ulcerative colitis, inflammatory bowel disease.

I knew nothing whatsoever about autism.

When I was at medical school it was

so rare we weren't taught about it.

We heard a succession of stories which were very, very similar.

Medicine is about pattern recognition,

and there was a clear pattern emerging.

So we decided, a group of us,

including the world's leading pediatric gastroenterologist

at the time, led by professor John Walker Smith,

decided that these children merited thorough investigation.

>> Well Dr. Wakefield has been shown

to use absolutely fraudulent data, created a fake paper,

the journal allowed it to run.

All the other studies were done,

showed no connection whatsoever again and again and again,

so it's an absolute lie that has killed thousands of kids.

>> What we discovered and reported

for the first time was this link between what appeared

to be a novel type of intestinal inflammation,

and autistic regression

in previously developmentally normal children.

And among those, the majority had regressed

into autism according to their parents following the measles,

mumps, rubella vaccine.

It wasn't our place to censor that story,

because it may be uncomfortable for public health.

Our job was to report that story accurately,

in order that it might lead to further investigation

and the paper explicitly said,

this paper does not prove an association between MMR vaccine

and the syndrome described.

More work is needed to resolve this issue.

That was the conclusion of the paper.

>> As an investigative medical journalist,

I've spent the last 7 years working on one

of the best medical talk shows in the world.

We know in medicine that there have been many,

many studies proving that vaccines do not cause autism.

But the problem I have always had with that is that thousands

and thousands of parents all telling the same story.

My child got a vaccine.

Usually the MMR vaccine.

And then that night or the next day broke

out in a fever [baby crying] and then when they came

out of the fever, lost speech [baby crying], lost the ability

to walk, basically regressed into what we know

as autism, and never came back.

Doctors used to be told to listen to their patient.

That was the cornerstone of medicine as we know it.

But something has changed recently

where the patient doesn't know what they're talking about,

and these parents, with their story of their children,

have just been written off

as if they have no idea what is really going

on with their child.

I have two kids.

And anyone that has children knows

that when we first have babies, we are overly sensitive

to every little hiccup, every cough, every sniffle.

So to say that a parent was just unaware

that their child had issues,

and suddenly they realized one year later

that oh they have autism, that doesn't make sense to me.

And so I wanted to look into this story and find

out what is this disconnect between medicine,

science, and real parents?

>> I couldn't wait to be a mom.

I remembered specifically, before we even got married,

talking about how important children would be in our lives.

>> I wanted a daughter first, and I wanted a son,

and we were planning on having four children.

>> We were going to be the most perfect parents

that we could be.

>> Bella was born, and that was a wonderful experience.

>> Bella was just this angelic, perfect child,

she hit all her milestones.

I got pregnant with Billy quite quickly.

Bella, say hello to Billy.

>> Hello.

>> We've now got a beautiful girl and a beautiful boy,

and life was just amazing.

So at 2, 4 and 6 months, Billy had his normal baby vaccines.

A little bit sniffly, chesty-coldy,

after the last one, so me--

in my perfect mother mode, rushed to the doctor.

You know, is he okay?

Do I need to give him anything?

Yes, you need to give him antibiotics,

just to make sure there is not an infection in there.

It didn't clear up.

Brought him back to the doctor, had even more antibiotics,

let's just keep this going in him.

And I remember my mother calling up,

my mother is a homeopathic hippie,

and called up saying what are you doing?

In chucking those antibiotics

down your son's throat-- for what?

And I'm saying to her mum, with all due respect,

you're an artist, and they're doctors, so they know best.

He was due his MMR vaccination at 12 months.

So the morning, exactly to the day, my friend, she said to me,

"Listen, I've heard that there may be a problem

with this vaccine you're about to take Billy in for, the MMR."

I said "Are you crazy?

What is the matter with you?

If there was a problem with the vaccination it would be

headline news.

The doctor would be calling me

up saying do not bother coming in, this is not a safe vaccine.

None of that is happening.

You're being negative.

You're being careless, and you're listening

to what some rumor that you heard somewhere,

Billy could become deaf if I don't take him

in now and get him this MMR.

>> You know, most of the evidence linking measles

with autism has kind of settled down, and most doctors

and scientists agree that it probably isn't the major cause.

>> I've been working in pediatrics for almost 20 years.

I think most pediatricians view vaccines

as they are the number one thing they do for kids.

>> Okay there we go.

>> High-five.

All right.

That was really good.

>> I'm young enough to not remember the days of kids

in an iron lung, because they were battling polio.

You know, polio has essentially been eradicated

from this country.

In 98 the Wakefield study had come out,

my son had just been born.

That study kind of pointed a finger at the MMR.

As a parent, I was scared to give the MMR to my son,

and as a matter of fact, we-- I didn't give it to him on time.

Because I wanted to see.

I wanted to see what additional studies would show.

And over time, additional studies did show

that no, it's safe.

So he did get the vaccine.

You know, if everybody stopped vaccinating,

we would be going back to the dark ages.

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>> When a CDC scientist, who had been there, at that time,

17 years, tells you this is how you access data,

it didn't take me very long to realize oh,

I'd better do what he says.

Because he knows what he's talking about.

>> I just want to tell you one thing.

Right now, I'm sitting at a very pretty position in terms

of providing you a lot of information.

>> He asked me what data sets are you going to request?

And I said, well I'm going to request two of the studies

that you've done on Thimerosal,

the mercury-containing preservative that is used

in some of the vaccines.

And he said well that's fine, but I want you

to request the MMR data set first, and this is the study

by Frank DeStefano and his colleagues in 2004.

>> It was the one study where we could end

up creating a mess while the CDC tried to, you know,

tried to sort out something they couldn't understand.

>> The day Billy got the MMR was a living nightmare,

worst day of my life, to be honest with you.

>> I came in and I saw him lying in his cot, listless.

He started this uncontrollable shaking.

Uncontrollable shaking.

Imagine coming out of a frozen pond.

>> His eyes were doing this, and he was shaking, like this.

>> And I remember she grasped him and held him really tight.

To her chest.

>> There's immediate fear in Jon, and immediate,

mommy this is not going to happen,

I don't know what is wrong with you,

but this is not going to happen.

And we get to hospital, we rush him in, doctors are coming in,

looking at him, that's when they said he's had a reaction,

he's had a seizure, this is normal, this is common,

for many, many children who have this vaccination,

it's absolutely okay, he's going to be fine.

Nobody ever told me that there would be any side effect to any

of the vaccinations my children had.

>> Following his febrile convulsion

that he had the same day of the MMR,

we were told to take him home.

>> He slept in the bed with us for the night,

he seemed just very, very sleepy.

In fact, he didn't ever really wake

up to the Billy that we had before.

>> For me, it became really necessary to start looking

at what types of medical issues are these children

going through?

What are the other factors that have affected them,

that have brought them to this level

of symptomatology that we call autism.

This is now probably the mid-90s.

I came to notice that there was A, a very high use

of antibiotics amongst these children, but B,

what became pretty interesting was seeing the number

of families who were reporting

that their child had a regressive type

of behavior occur right after their vaccinations.

A lot of these parents were showing me footage

of their children who had been completely developing normally

until 18 months, and then all of a sudden, post-vaccination,

developed incredible regression.

Children who had speech anywhere close to 50 to 100 words,

and had completely lost all of their words.

Children who were extremely attached and interactive

with their parents had suddenly become isolated,

no longer responding to their own name.

This was all happening right after their MMR vaccines.

>> My oldest son, Ian, was born normal, developing normally.

He was this beautiful boy, and we ended

up at our 12-month visit, which is his one year,

then they gave him multiple vaccines at once,

and within 7 days, he had a 104 fever,

and a rash all over his body.

He had previously been noted, and in our videos, home videos,

that he was walking, and actually running at that point.

Seven days after the vaccine, he was no longer able to do that.

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>> He was falling down.

He became a really sick, sick little boy.

>> So the question for those of us investigating autism,

is age of exposure to MMR, a risk for autism.

And in order to understand why that might be,

you have to understand something of the history of MMR vaccine.

In 1987, there was an MMR vaccine that was being used

in Canada, produced by Smith-Kline-Beecham,

and that vaccine caused meningitis.

It was recognized quickly,

and that vaccine was withdrawn in Canada.

However, in the same month that it was withdrawn in Ontario,

it was licensed in the U.K., the name was simply changed

from Trivirix, to Pluserix, in the U.K. it was used

for four years, and likewise, caused meningitis and had

to be rapidly withdrawn.

There was a public outcry.

There was an acute loss of confidence by the public

in vaccine policy makers, and the vaccine should

at that point have been destroyed.

It wasn't.

It was then shipped to developing countries

like Brazil, where it was used in a mass vaccination campaign,

and there was an epidemic of meningitis,

which was entirely predictable.

Now scientists studied that epidemic, and what they found is

that the risk for meningitis was associated with age of exposure.

The younger you got the MMR vaccine,

the greater the risk for meningitis.

For people like me investigating autism,

the question was is there a similar risk in autism?

Is age of exposure to MMR a risk for autism just

as it was for meningitis?

We shared with the U.S. Congress and the CDC the hypothesis.

The story as told to us, and which we have an obligation

to report is that the majority

of children regressed following a period of normal development

in the face of an MMR vaccination.

That does not mean it is the cause of the disease.

>> The Institute of Medicine is a body of scientists

and physicians that review the available data on vaccine safety

and then advise our government on vaccine research policy.

Well, because Andy Wakefield had put forth this theory

that the age at which you receive the MMR may increase

your risk of autism, the IOM looked to the CDC

to do that very study.

It was a study about timing.

Does the earlier you receive the MMR vaccine increase the risk

of autism?

>> When we talk about the MMR study,

nobody had ever requested those data,

because it was a big secret that you could do it.

Thompson told me to email such and such a person,

and then on the inside, I also found out that one

of the people preparing these data sets

for me was Bill Thompson.

>> They don't really want people to know

that this data exists, again, you know?

I just can't believe we actually got you that data.

>> Thompson couldn't send these documents directly

to Brian Hooker, because that would have been illegal.

What Thompson identified was a legal loophole that is referred

to as a citizen's request.

That allowed Thompson to deliver

to Brian Hooker potentially classified information

in a legal way.

>> You get checked in England,

with your babies, at certain times.

Health, by health visitors.

So nine months Billy had his full blown check

and there was no parental concerns,

baby laughing, babbling, talking.

So we passed that with flying colors.

Eighteen months is when they next come in, and by this time,

we know there is something seriously wrong with Billy.

>> Probably within five or six days,

the first signs really was this vacancy.

He wasn't the same smiley little baby that he was before.

He had a blank expression.

Then the diarrhea kicked in.

>> His tummy started to get bigger and bigger, bloated.

Rock hard bloated tummy.

He would start to walk on tiptoes.

His hair fell out, and this dreadful, high-pitched scream,

sort of whiny scream developed from him,

and then came the head banging.

The constant banging against his crib.

The constant banging against the floor or a wall or anything

that he could find to bang his head on,

he would thrash it, and thrash it.

Jon and I would lie in bed at night just listening

to this thud, thud, thud, [banging sounds].

>> Thud.

>> There's nothing-- now not even noticing his sister he used

to play with.

Jon comes through the front door after work, no recognition

that we were his parents, or that this child even belonged

to us, nothing,nothing.

Gone.

>> I mean, that was the time where, our boy changed

from what he was, to a real tragic, tragic case of a child

who regressed into this autistic state, and lost everything.

Lost everything.

>> The CDC, the way that they do research studies is

very reactionary.

They look at something that is creating the press,

and creating a buzz, that could actually lower vaccination

rates, and that's what they study.

They don't study vaccines proactively.

So if Andy had never done his original study and gotten

that published in The Lancet,

would have never created the uproar

that rightfully it should have created,

then the CDC would have never studied this.

>> The press conference for The Lancet paper was called

by the Dean of the medical school, who was the Chairman

of the Media Committee.

>> I had done an extensive research

into measles vaccine safety and MMR vaccine safety

in the pre-licensing phase.

In other words, what safety studies had been done before

these vaccines were put onto the market and into children?

The 250 page report was compiled by me,

showing that the vaccine safety studies for MMR

in particular, were lamentable.

They were lamentable.

Many, many assumptions have been made about the safety

of this vaccine, and there had been problems

which had been airbrushed.

So I wrote to my colleagues, and the Dean,

and I said going forward there are going to be questions

about what parents should do next.

I cannot in due conscience support continued use

of the MMR vaccine, having done this research.

I said, I will continue to vigorously support the use

of the single vaccine.

But can no longer support the use of the triple MMR vaccine.

So the dean, the chairman

of that committee, had three choices.

He could have not had a press conference.

He could have banned me from the press conference,

or when the question came up, as inevitably it would,

what do parents do next about vaccinating their children?

He knew what my response would be.

He could deflect the question to someone else.

When the question came up on the day,

he directed it straight to me.

>> All I recommended at that press conference was

that parents opt for the use of the single vaccines.

Single measles, single mumps, single rubella,

until the issue had been resolved scientifically.

What happened when I made that recommendation,

unilateral decisions were made by the government in the U.K.

to withdraw the importation license for the single vaccines,

Merck opting in the U.S. to cease the production

of the single vaccines, giving parents no option.

I said to a senior representative to the Department

of Health, why, if your objective is to protect children

against serious infectious disease,

why would you take away the option of how parents do that?

And she said "because if we allow parents the choice

of single vaccines, it would destroy our MMR program."

In other words, the concern was for the protection

of the program, over and above the protection of children.

>> No one's career has ever been advanced

in the medical industrial complex by being outwardly

and openly critical of the vaccine industry.

I'm Mark Blaxill, father of a daughter diagnosed

with autism back in 1998.

I've written two books that have come out of the autism movement,

that have been projected into autism advocacy ever since.

Michaela was born typical.

Everything was fine.

She was developing normally through her first birthday.

We had vivid memories of, you know, early language,

joined attention, lots of play.

She was adorable, beautiful, cute.

And then somewhere in the months after she began to slip away,

and she lost language, and she began to retreat

into a world of her own.

And at 2 years, 9 months, we got a formal diagnosis

of a full syndrome autism.

It was a hopeless, pessimistic future

that was laid out in front of us.

She was going to be disabled for the rest of her life,

likely to be non-vocal, in an institution,

and that the best thing we could do was to accept the inevitable.

Part of the story we heard from the Harvard experts was

that autism was genetic, it was low

and relatively constant prevalence.

The more I learned, the more clear was

that that whole orthodox view was false.

Completely false.

Revolutions only happen in science

when there is an anomaly.

An anomaly that the old orthodoxy can't explain.

With autism, the anomaly was the explosion in cases,

which meant that what people were trying to describe

as a genetic, neurologically based condition couldn't

be genetic.

It could only be environmental.

It could only be some set of things

that happened to children.

And you had to ask the question what might it have been?

>> One of my personal training clients was the Director

of Programs for LWT London Weekend Television.

>> And this guy said why don't you do a program,

and people out there, there may be someone

out there with this condition.

>> He said this is going to be an unbelievable story.

>> And we thought we've got nothing to lose, right now,

this child is either going to kill himself because he's going

to smash his head to pieces, or we're going to go insane,

because everybody here is miserable.

>> That program was aired, and we received 250,000 email hits.

>> Computers were kind of new then,

the whole internet computer thing.

Ours crashed.

We set up a Billy website, you know, just in case somebody--

one person, might be able to help us.

Crashed. The television station's computers crashed.

They had never seen anything like this before.

The parents had exactly the same story as us.

Antibiotics, some with chicken pox, a lot vaccine.

Bang, the symptoms all the same.

The diarrhea, the constipation, the high-pitched scream,

the banging of the head, we've all lived through it.

It was the same story.

>> And it was Polly's idea to put all of this stuff together

in a magazine called The Autism File.

>> They all ask the questions, and maybe someone can help.

>> These questions from these parents were not being answered

by the doctors that they went to see.

They came to us out of desperation,

and we had 45,000 subscribers within four months.

>> When I originally got the MMR autism data,

I came up with my own analysis plan, and I stepped

through logically

and systematically how the data should have been approached.

I looked first of all at males versus females.

Then I looked at black males, the relative risk

of them receiving an autism diagnosis was astronomical,

and it was highly statistically significant.

I really had to scratch my head and say I know nothing

about the MMR vaccine.

And so that's when I originally called Andy.

>> Wow, really?

After everything that had happened,

everything that we had all been through,

everything the families had suffered for the last 15 years,

and the CDC had known all along there was this MMR autism risk.

>> As I started to divulge more of the conversations,

and I think it really hit him, that this was a major crack

in the wall of the CDC.

>> The first thing that Thompson did was to plot a graph.

A graph of percentage of children vaccinated against age

at first MMR vaccination.

The children with autism are represented by the pink line.

The children without autism by the blue line.

Now, if there's no link between early MMR and autism,

those two lines should track together,

whatever the age at first MMR.

And they do track again.

Until they get to 15 months, then they separate,

then they continue to separate thereafter.

This was their first indication

that MMR vaccine was causing autism.

And that finding alone rocked Thompson back on his heels.

>> This was a huge issue for Andy.

>> So I said to Brian, Brian are you recording

these conversations?

>> Recording phone conversations was not really palatable to me.

Almost seemed cruel.

>> Whistle blowers can disappear as easily as they came.

They're like a fish on a hook, and your job is

to get them into the boat.

>> Temple walked at 12 months, so he had been walking

for an entire month before we went

in for the next set of vaccinations.

The minute we walked into the pediatric office,

Lou, his twin, she is screaming her head off,

I mean she knows what's going on.

She doesn't want the doctor touching her.

I look up, and there's she's got the shots lined up,

three for him, three for her.

By the second shot, Lucinda had flipped herself over,

so I had to stop looking at what I was doing,

unstrap her, get her out.

Well, the minute I get her out and I calm her

down a little bit, and I look over, he's screaming,

I look at the shots, and I notice

that one of hers was gone.

There are only two shots left for her.

And I asked the nurse practitioner, I said,

what happened to that other shot?

She says "Oh, oh my goodness, I gave it to him."

I said which one was it?

She said it was the other MMR.

I said call the doctor.

This baby is screaming his head off.

You've given him an extra shot.

I don't know what the effect of that is going to be.

We're leaving.

And I left.

So she never got her shots.

I go home, this baby cried, cried, cried.

I put him down on his little blanket,

he starts banging his head on the floor,

banging his head on the floor.

The next morning, I go in his room, and he's staring

into space, and he's looking around like this.

As if, you know, he's a bit paralyzed.

Not the baby who was always doing this every morning,

smiling for me to get him out of bed.

And I pick him up, and he does this.

And I said, what has happened to my baby?

So I call the clinic.

And I said I think my child has had an adverse reaction

to those shots yesterday.

She says "No, no, no.

I'm waiting for the representative from Merck.

I don't think it's a reaction to that."

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>> Bill Thompson looked at African Americans,

he saw that those African Americans that got the MMR

on time were 2.64 times more likely

to get an autism diagnosis than those African Americans

that receive the MMR after three years of age.

>> So what Bill is suggesting is that among the blacks,

the ones that were getting vaccinated earlier were more

likely to have autism.

>> At that point, the group of researchers that was working

on this particular study they were having weekly meetings.

Coleen Boyle, who was the head

of developmental disabilities branch

and Marshalyn Yeargin-Allsop,

who was one of Thompson's direct supervisors.

Frank DeStefano, who was the head

of the Immunization Safety Office,

and a post-doctoral research associate named Tanya Bhasin.

In that meeting, Thompson brought up the fact

that African Americans were showing a highly statistically

significant risk of autism if they got the MMR on time.

>> What is said in these closed door meetings?

I mean, do people say well oh, this is unacceptable,

or is it just do they always say oh this can't be right?

Or?

>> I'm not going to lie.

But I also don't want to say things to you right now

that aren't, that aren't some written form.

>> Right.

>> The analysis regarding the African Americans was the 8

on the Richter scale earthquake that just shook through the CDC.

>> I take him to see the pediatrician that I know.

And she looks at me, she closes the door, and she whispers.

She says, "Sheila, I believe he has autism."

I said, "What?

Like Rainman?"

She says, "Something like that.

I'm going to refer y'all to a neurologist."

And we go see the neurologist the next week.

He says he has every classical symptom of autism.

I do not believe this.

I was angry.

When he explained it to me what autism is,

he told me he was born that way.

I said, no he wasn't.

>> Clearly, there was a very high risk of autism

in African American children.

Here's the thing.

We know that autism is four times more common in boys.

And so to see that effect mirrored

in the African American children was a compelling finding.

>> When I looked at African American males only,

the relative risk was 3.36.

It just blew my mind.

And that's when I wanted to call Bill Thompson on the phone.

And his statement to me was "Oh!

You found it."

>> It appears in the final publication is that race

in general is downplayed.

>> Of course it is!

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>> Temple's twin is amazing.

She is fluent in three languages.

She speaks French like a native.

She is an A student.

She plays classical piano.

With all of the guilt that I feel from that day,

one of the best decisions I made for her was to walk out of

that office without her being vaccinated.

At the end of this journey, I don't want to be one

of those mothers standing there saying I wish, I would have,

could have, should have done.

I want to be able to say I gave it everything that I had.

I gave it my best shot.

His twin is going into the 11th grade and for someone

who still can't manage to cross the street.

Now, am I grateful he's here?

You bet. I'm grateful my son lived [sobbing],

I was so naïve that he would live a fulfilling life.

He would end up being a happy man.

Having a family [sobbing].

My dreams for him.

And every year that goes by, the older my son gets,

the further that dream seems to be.

>> All about vaccines!

>> So what do vaccines do?

>> Vaccines build up your immune system

and make you stronger to fight off disease.

>> Are vaccines safe?

>> Yes. The studies involving millions

of children have shown no connection

between vaccines and autism.

>> Stick to the schedule.

>> The CDC's own vaccine schedule, which we are required

to adhere to as parents in America recommends

that our children get the MMR between 12 and 18 months.

But in this hidden data, provided to us

by William Thompson, it is clear that for African Americans,

this is actually the most dangerous time

to deliver the MMR.

>> The CDC in my opinion is one of the-

where I go to if I need information

about an infectious disease.

I probably either go on their website,

or open one of the reference books every day.

That building is filled with a lot of scientists

that are smarter than me.

>> The analysis plan is one of the most important parts

of the scientific study.

It's the laws or the rules by which the scientist will adhere

to while doing the study.

And this analysis plan is put together

by the scientists themselves.

Sometimes their superior's way in.

But once they've locked that analysis plan.

They said this is how we are going to use the data.

And you can't deviate from that analysis plan,

or you're at risk for fraud.

Scientific fraud.

Did they deviate from the analysis plan

after seeing something they didn't like?

If they did, we have a real problem.

>> Thompson not only played a major role

in developing the analysis plan, he was the numbers guy.

He was responsible for collecting the data,

analyzing the data, and presenting the results,

and by November 2001, the results were in.

>> Now with the MMR autism one, the-

we had an analysis plan that we were supposed to execute,

and it was written, and you know,

I'm going to be sharing these draft analysis plans

that we had.

And you can see whether we did what we were going to do.

>> That analysis plan had been agreed upon,

not only by the co-authors, but also by CDC superiors.

>> In order to conceal the effect of the MMR, what they had

to do was reduce the number of children in the study in order

to reduce what is referred to as the statistical power.

That is, the ability of the study to detect a difference

if one genuinely exists.

In the analysis plan, they had agreed

to use two sources of information.

The first was the children's school records,

and the second was the children's Georgia birth

certificate records.

So while every child in the study had a school record,

only half of the children

in the study had a Georgia birth certificate record,

because the other half had been born in other states.

So the analysis plan was explicit.

Information on a child's race was to come

from their school record.

But when confronted by data that revealed an increased risk

of autism in African American children, they deviated

from their analysis plan.

They chose to get the race data not from the school record,

but from the Georgia birth certificate record.

>> Instead of having 3,000 individuals in the study,

it went down to about 1,800.

The relative risk went down from 2.64 to 1.8,

but more importantly,

that relative risk was no longer statistically significant.

>> And I'll ask you to step forward to receive your prize

from the hands of His Majesty, the King.

[ Music and Applause ]

>> I am Luc Montangier, M.D.

>> Shortly after Julie Gerberding became head

of the CDC,

I began to communicate with her

and ask her to come to my office.

There didn't seem to be objective research going on.

There was the CDC trying to promote vaccination

for children, and then they were doing the safety

research themselves.

>> In CDC's judgment, the best public policy is

to continue vaccination unchanged,

while aggressively working to try to identify causes

of developmental disabilities.

>> The CDC, I just thought, was institutionally conflicted.

>> The CDC can't take money directly from pharma,

but they can set up a foundation,

and the foundation can attract donations

from commercial interests, and does.

Merck, Glaxo-Smith-Kline, now Pfizer, Sanofi Aventis,

have huge, multi-billion dollar vaccine businesses.

They're profitable.

They promote them because some of these new high-tech vaccines,

that are patented, that are high priced, get protected

by this little cocoon of regulatory capture in HHS.

And are guaranteed multi-billion dollar franchises.

>> When I was working at Merck, I was a sales rep for Vioxx.

The whole scandal started when it was discovered

that Merck had manipulated data and covered up the fact

that Vioxx actually caused twice the amount of heart attacks

and strokes than the placebo.

What I learned from that experience,

just because things are

on the market does not mean they are safe.

[ Cheering ]

I think we get into a very dangerous territory

with vaccinations.

If a drug company gets just one vaccine added to the schedule,

they can make upwards of $30 billion in one year.

>> It's no secret.

I think they've published their intention, which is they want

to create an environment

of constant vaccination from cradle to grave.

They want infant vaccines they expanded flu shots,

DTAP boosters, Gardasil shots, meningococcal shots,

they want adult vaccines, you know, they want you and me

to come in and get a constant barrage of shots,

and then they want vaccines for the elderly.

>> We have highly profitable product,

because the safety testing isn't as rigorous

as a normal pharmaceutical drug.

The gold standard is double blind,

placebo-based long-term study.

And that just isn't done with vaccines,

because they're classified in a different way

as a public health measure, and they haven't been tested

in combination with other vaccines, yet doctors give six

to nine doses per visit.

It's insane.

If a pharmaceutical drug was tested like this,

it wouldn't be on the market.

But because it's a vaccine,

and the safety testing is less rigorous,

our children are being experimented on.

>> I don't like to look at autism

from a behavioral perspective.

I look at it more from what causes it in each child.

When I want to define autism, I have to say it's the inability

to detoxify the way you're supposed to,

at the rate you're supposed to, and it all has to do

with this toxic overload.

These children are not detoxifying

from the vaccinations.

Same thing with GMO products, the pesticides in our food.

If I can prevent the child from being exposed to more toxins,

then when I'm teaching the child,

at least the child is getting better,

and not continuously getting worse.

>> Without a doubt, what's happened

to Billy has changed his life.

>> I did it!

>> There you go, you got a strike!

>> What I have on my hands now a 19-year-old man,

he's 6 foot 2, he is volatile.

On good days, Billy is as brilliant as an angel.

On bad days the slightest thing can trigger him, and he's scary.

>> I'm going to go downstairs and get daddy right now.

>> No, you need to stay up here, okay?

>> I'm going to kill daddy right now!

>> Bill, listen to me.

I'm going to stay up here, we're going to calm down okay?

[Laughter]

>> The reason they become aggressive, and dangerous

in some cases, is because they have no ability to communicate.

>> Because mummy asked Kent, but Kent bring the sweet corn,

then bring in the chickens here.

Here, this is your fault, mummy.

>> If you're not able to express your needs, your wants,

your desires, your happiness and sadness and so on,

you would become aggressive.

That's often when we see the worst part of autism.

>> We have to occupy his room and use his video player,

and of course, that is a massive intrusion in his space,

and he got very upset.

>> Where else in this house can we play a video?

Remember? Listen, Bill reduce the stress level.

>> No! Don't hurt Daddy.

Out there, there's millions of me's, there's millions

of Polly Tommey's with vaccine damaged children.

I'm telling you this, because I do not want you

to live the life that I've led.

I don't want you to go through the pain.

I do not want to see you suffer, or your family suffer.

That is why I'm telling you.

I've no other reason to tell you about it.

It's not my concern, my kid's already damaged.

>> I am a senior research scientist here at MIT,

in the computer science

and artificial intelligence laboratory.

I have a Bachelor's degree in biology from MIT,

and I have MSEE and PhD degrees, also from MIT

in electrical engineering and computer science.

I became interested in autism a long time ago

when my best friend at the time had a son who was diagnosed

with autism following a DPT shot.

He had a high fever after the shot, seizures a week later,

and was later diagnosed with autism.

>> We have to accept the fact that autism is new.

That before 1930, the rate of autism

in the world was effectively zero.

And then for a long time it was 1 in 10,000.

>> I got interested in studying autism eight years ago

when I saw the numbers go up, and I was quite alarmed,

because I could see that the trend was exponential growth.

And exponential growth is extremely scary.

>> Since really the mid- to late 80s,

we've gone from this low-prevalence environment

to a rate of increase where the trend is still vertical.

We have not seen a flattening in trend.

>> Every couple of years, the CDC provides a number

of what percentage of kids are diagnosed with autism.

And you've got the dots going all the way back to 1975.

You draw the line, it is a perfect exponential curve.

If we assume that things are going to continue as they have,

for the past 30 years, into the future, we can predict

that by 2032, 80% of the boys born will end

up on the autism spectrum.

Half the children, 80% of the boys.

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>> If you think the vaccine is only a problem

for African American kids like me, you're wrong.

>> There's an even bigger problem.

One that puts all kids at risk, and it's called isolated autism.

>> When the CDC researchers set out to do this study,

they asked themselves the question

if early MMR vaccine causes autism,

in which children would we be most likely to find this effect?

Their answer is children with no developmental concerns

for the first year of life.

Children who were perfectly healthy

until they received their MMR vaccine.

They called this group isolated autism.

Now, this does not refer to an isolated cause of autism,

or an isolated group with autism.

They isolated autism out,

so children who had no co-morbid conditions apart

from their autism.

No cerebral palsy.

No mental retardation.

No visual or hearing impairment.

No epilepsy, and no birth defects.

This risk group includes essentially every healthy child

in the world.

>> I'm a single father.

Raising a 15-year-old severely autistic,

non-verbal teenaged daughter.

When she was 15 months old, she received a round of vaccines

which included the MMR and DTAP.

She developed a high fever,

the fever broke, she lost everything.

>> My daughter was six weeks old when I took her

in for her vaccination.

Two hours later, she had a five minute seizure, and two hours

after that, she had another five minute seizure.

Mama's here.

Come on. Come on.

Come on, you're okay.

You're okay.

Come on baby.

Come on babe, you can do it.

Come on babe.

Come on out.

Come on. Come on baby.

Come on, keep breathing.

Come on, come on...The vaccination gave her severe

brain damage, and she had seizures every day for the rest

of her life until she died in my arms at the age of 15.

>> There is no good reason to choose not to get a vaccine.

>> He got his MMR, and he got his DTP,

and within days, he stopped talking.

>> Projectile vomiting, convulsions.

>> He went blind in his left eye.

>> Vaccines took our healthy, happy baby and made him unwell.

>> She lost all acquired speech.

>> He lost his speech, he lost his eye contact,

like the flick of a switch.

>> If vaccines were unsafe,

I think this would be an interesting

and reasonable discussion.

>> Obviously some minority get hurt by this stuff.

I don't understand why this is controversial.

>> Vaccines are safe.

Get vaccinated.

>> It's like, you know what?

Shut the fuck up and let me take every vaccine that Merck wants

to shove down my throat.

>> Autism is not a side effect of vaccine,

or to say it another way,

because some people don't hear this well,

vaccines do not cause autism.

>> Hear this well.

>> Hear this well.

>> Please hear this well.

>> Here this well.

>> Vaccines can and do cause autism.

>> My granddaughter Lilly...

>> My daughter...

>> My son was fully vaccinated.

>> My son, Jackson.

>> I had a healthy, typically developing boy.

>> Please, hear this well.

>> Vaccines cause autism.

>> One day, everyone will know the truth about vaccines.

Hear this well.

>> I honestly think the most interesting results are the

elevated ones, for the isolated,

ones that don't have other co-morbid conditions.

The effect is where you think it would happen.

>> In isolated autism, he saw a very, very strong effect,

specific to those kids that got the MMR on time.

When Bill Thompson ran those numbers,

he saw an astronomical effect.

Some of the numbers were actually--

the relative risks were as high as 7 or 8 times higher

with these kids that were diagnosed

with just isolated autism, no other diagnosis,

versus those controls.

>> Isolated autism is confusing, because it sounds small,

but it really is a big problem.

Because all healthy children no matter what race, are at risk.

For example, my sister is 18 months old, and she is supposed

to get her MMR shot right now.

But if she does, she is seven times more likely to get autism

than if my parents wait until after 3 years old.

So I hope my parents don't do it.

>> Here's what's really scary.

When we look at isolated autism, we see that there is

up to a seven-fold increase in the incidence of autism

between those that receive the vaccine between 12

and 18 months, versus those that got it after 3 years old.

But let's be perfectly clear.

Every child in the study had received the MMR vaccine.

What would the numbers be if you compared children

who got the vaccine between 12 and 18 months versus children

that never got the vaccine at all.

This is often referred to as the vax vs. unvax study.

CDC refuses to do this study.

Even though every drug that we take has been

through this exact study.

There is a group who take the drug, then they compare it

with a group who do not take the drug,

and they see there are more side effects and complications

with the group that takes the drug.

So why does the CDC refuse to do the vax vs. unvax study?

Probably because when we look at the results of this study,

we realize that the risk would be astronomical, and is likely

to be one of the major reasons we're seeing this skyrocketing

increase of autism, worldwide.

>> Just like the African American children,

they went into the room, and they sliced and diced the data,

in an effort to get rid of that effect.

This is Coleen Boyle's meeting notes, how they planned

to present the data by these age groups, that after the fact,

when the data she writes reformats.

And then she puts in new age groups.

Even this failed to achieve the desired effect,

since in the end, they simply omitted the relevant findings

from the paper altogether.

>> I was just looking at that, I'm like, oh my god,

I cannot believe we did what we did.

But we did.

>> Yeah.

>> So it's all there.

It's all there.

>> And you in the health field, you who run our health agencies

in this country are sitting here today, you have an obligation

to these kids that you just saw there, to make sure

that these studies are complete, thorough,

so that everybody knows that we have all the facts,

and you don't have that.

>> One of the things we did because this was

such an important topic was to have them be sworn in.

So they were under oath.

And if they were doctoring the results of a study,

and they did it deliberately, they committed a felony.

>> It used to be 1 in 10,000.

And now it's 1 in more than 250 kids that are being damaged

in this country, that are autistic.

Now those kids are going to grow up.

They aren't going to die.

It's not like a lot of diseases

where they get infected, and they drop dead.

They're going to live to be 50, 60 years old.

Now, who do you think is going to take care of them?

It's going to be us.

All of us.

The taxpayers.

And it's going to cost, I think

as you said Ms. Maloney, trillions of dollars.

So we can't let the pharmaceutical companies

and our government cover this mess up today,

because it ain't going to go away.

And it's going to cost the taxpayers trillions more

if we wait around on it.

And or our FDA and HHS and the health agencies to continue

to hide behind this façade that there have been studies

that conclusively prove otherwise, it's just wrong too.

>> So the CDC wasn't just doing the study inside of a bubble.

In fact, it was the exact opposite.

They were under fire.

You had Congressman Dan Burton in front

of the Congress demanding answers about mercury

and the MMR, and vaccine studies,

and the connection to autism.

Dave Weldon, Congressman from Florida,

is reaching out to Julie Gerberding

with serious complaints

on how he thinks this entire issue has been handled.

On top of that, the Department of Justice is requesting files

and data from the CBC because of a previous study called the

Verstraeton study, that had so may anomalies,

it looked like scientific fraud was taking place.

So they were suspicious.

So then you look at the emails that Thompson provided to us,

and you see that he is reaching out to his line manager,

Dr. Melinda Wharton, throwing up red flags, saying "I first spoke

with you in September of 2002 regarding the sensitive results

we have been struggling with in the MMR autism study."

How do you struggle with scientific results?

I mean, facts are facts.

Data are data.

That doesn't make any sense.

So you've got Dan Burton breathing down their necks.

The Department of Justice is requesting files,

and William Thompson finds out that Coleen Boyle has brought

in a lawyer to help her decide what materials are too sensitive

to provide to the Department of Justice.

This obviously freaks William Thompson out, because later

in the email to Wharton, he says

"I will be hiring my own personal attorney."

And it's extremely unfortunate that we need to be concerned

that our own legal rights are covered when participating

in a study such as this.

I mean, what's going on here?

We have government scientists, lawyering up,

over a children's safety study.

Clearly this does not sit well at all with Dr. Thompson.

Because at the end of this email,

he makes what looks to be a clear threat.

"My level of concern has also caused me

to seriously consider removing myself as an author

on the draft manuscript."

So then a few days later, Thompson writes directly

to Dr. Walter Orenstein, head

of The National Immunization Program,

saying "I am not interested in taking all of the political heat

that will go along with that study."

Thompson has gone all the way to the top of his department.

I mean, we don't ever get a response from Walter Orenstein,

but Thompson is very clear on what happened next.

>> The higher ups wanted to do certain things,

and I went along with it.

In terms of chain of command, I was number four out of five.

>> Dr. Thompson talked about destruction of documents,

and that in Fall of 2002, there was a meeting

with the trash can rolled in,

and they selected documents to be destroyed.

>> I led all the analyses with the DeStefano thing,

literally everyone else got rid of all their documents,

so the only documents that exist right now

from that study are mine.

>> These documents were no doubt federal records.

They were very important documents,

because they showed a very strong statistically

significant effect.

>> He felt that quite rightly it would be illegal

to destroy those documents.

And so in his office, he kept not only the hard copies,

but the computerized files for that study.

>> There was a dramatically different result presented

before and after the time frame that Thompson alleged

that these data were destroyed.

If I never had the documents before October 2002,

there would be nothing that would show

that they actually had the results in hand,

and they decided to destroy those results.

I filed a formal complaint to the Office of Research Integrity

and the Department of Health and Human Services.

I heard back not long after the complaint was filed,

and the letter basically stated that every co-author,

except for Dr. Thompson, denied that any

such meeting was scheduled,

they denied that any material was destroyed or thrown away.

They were calling Dr. Thompson a liar.

It was their word against his.

Dr. Thompson predicted that this would happen.

>> There are things I haven't even shared with you

because I can't prove it, and that's what I struggle with.

I don't want to share things with you that I can't prove.

That there aren't hard records of, because I am worried

that the other four people will collude

and say no that's not true.

>> Dr. Thompson provided meeting notes to me

for precisely the time where the co-authors are claiming

that no meeting took place.

>> That's what I keep seeing again and again and again.

Where these senior people just do completely unethical vile

things, and no one holds them accountable.

>> So look.

Once you have the data, a scientific study

like this is a relatively simple process.

You just run the data, you get the results,

and then you publish those results in a paper.

In their own analysis plan,

this study was only supposed to take six months.

From May 2001 to December 2001.

So if they weren't destroying data,

why did this study end up taking four years?

The question everybody needs

to be asking the CDC is what the heck happened

between October 2002 and February of 2004?

>> The reason you don't see anything else circulating

on this study, it was five of us,

behind closed doors, for two years.

>> Wow.

>> So after two years of secret meetings behind closed doors,

DeStefano emerges with the final draft of the MMR study,

and they're going to present it to the Institute of Medicine.

>> People on the IOM move from industry, government, academia,

government, industry, and they bounce around.

It's all the same people,

and there wasn't a really good policeman in all of this,

to really make sure that the vaccine safety studies are done

properly and that they're done objectively.

It just didn't seem to me

like we were running a system that was credible.

I had written to Julie Gerberding, and I asked her

to postpone the February 9th Institute of Medicine meeting.

This report, the Institute of Medicine Report I wanted

to postpone because my concern that this was not an exercise

in discovering the truth,

but was instead a meeting being driven by a desire

to short-circuit important research

and draw premature conclusions.

>> The problem is, William Thompson being the lead

scientist, he is going to have to present their findings.

And he's not happy about it.

In fact, he's so upset, that he goes above the lead author,

DeStefano, above Walter Orenstein,

all the way to the Head of the CDC, Dr. Julie Gerberding.

And in an email he says,

basically saying "I'm not going to continue this lie.

If you put me up there, I'm going to tell the truth."

>> Thompson was originally scheduled to provide a briefing,

because he basically told Director Gerberding

that he would have to say that there is a causal association.

He was switched at the last minute with Frank DeStefano,

who was able to report to the IOM falsely

that we have found no association

between MMR and autism.

>> The IOM was the point of no return.

And so deprived of the truth,

the IOM declared MMR vaccine safe.

>> It was a rush to judgment, to shut the door, permanently

and completely, on the MMR autism link.

It is absolutely appalling that much of what I said turned

out exactly to be true.

They were trying to short-circuit the research.

>> It's the lowest, you know, the lowest point in my career,

that I went along with that paper.

>> After their brilliant work on the MMR study, DeStefano

and his team received an award from the Department

of Health and Human Services.

And then several years later,

Dr. Julie Gerberding received an award of her own.

A high paid job as head of the vaccine division at Merck.

Clearly, Merck appreciated the work she had done investigating

their vaccine.

>> Just to let you know, I wrote a paper on my results on MMR.

>> Yes?

>> And it will include something that I got from you.

>> Brian was about to publish a paper using data

that could only have come from an inside source

in the CDC, a whistle-blower.

And from that point forward,

William Thompson was a marked man.

>> Andy approached me and said it's time

to publicize the CDC whistle-blower.

>> Ironically 12 years later,

while Thompson is bearing his soul to Brian Hooker,

in front of Congress Coleen Boyle is just peddling the same

old CDC fraud.

But this time, it's to a new player.

And that is Congressman Bill Posey from Florida.

>> I wonder if the CDC has conducted

or facilitated a study comparing vaccinated children

with unvaccinated children yet?

Have you done that?

>> We have actually done a number of studies looking

at the relationship between Thiomerisol vaccines and autism,

and other developmental disabilities.

>> The lies from the CDC were still the same.

The difference now is we had William Thompson.

>> Vaccines and their components did not increase the risk

for autism.

>> But my time is very limited here, so clearly, definitely,

unequivocally, you have studied vaccinated versus unvaccinated?

>> We have not studied vaccinated

versus unvaccinated, as you--

>> Never mind, that is just not there,

that is the meaning of my question.

You've wasted two minutes of my time.

>> Brian had also submitted a related paper

to a journal called Nature Neuroscience.

And in that paper, he had specifically referred

to an unnamed source at the CDC.

And my worst fears were realized, when a journalist

from Nature Neuroscience contacted the CDC,

contacted Walter Orenstein, the message went

on to Frank DeStefano, who sent it out to the co-authors saying,

"Keep your heads down.

This may be coming your way."

>> The fear was all of a sudden we'd be dredging a river

for Bill Thompson.

>> So I said to him, Brian, we've got to do three things.

We have got to get Thompson a whistle-blower lawyer.

We have got to make sure that his documents are with Posey,

and we've got to reveal his name.

Whistle-blowers are in danger only as long as the only people

who know their identity are their enemies.

>> Do vaccines cause autism?

In the last 30 years,

the childhood vaccine schedule has tripled,

while the U.S. autism rate has skyrocketed

from 1 in 10,000 to 1 in 50.

Dozens of published research papers show that yes, vaccines

and autism are linked.

Yet, the debate rages on,

in part because of a 1986 National Childhood Vaccine

Injury Act, passed by Congress, as the result

of pharmaceutical lobbying.

It shields drug companies from liability for injuries

and deaths caused by the vaccines they manufacture.

Vaccines that the federal government admits are

unavoidably unsafe.

Instead of suing the pharmaceutical company directly,

parents are forced to petition the Department of Health

and Human Services,

and if federal officials oppose compensation,

the case is argued before a special master

in the U.S. Claims Court.

Many refer to this as vaccine court.

Here are some shocking facts

about the so-called vaccine court.

Pharmaceutical companies do not have to participate

in the proceedings at all.

Taxpayers pay for all damages.

The U.S. Department of Justice acts as a government's lawyer,

with taxpayers footing the bill for their defense.

>> Beginning in 2002, there were already thousands

of cases accumulating in vaccine court,

and the average compensation for an autistic child is

in the range of $5 million dollars, so just do the math.

The government was facing several hundred billion,

possibly a trillion dollars in liability

as the autism epidemic grew.

They had to develop a fraudulent study that would exonerate MMR

to deliberately defeat the cases in vaccine court,

to avoid paying the trillion dollars.

So the thousands of autism petitioners were denied their

fair day in court by a corrupt

and deliberate obstruction of justice.

It's one of the most unethical medical decisions of all time,

because it was made with knowledge

to sacrifice these children as a direct affront

to the Congressional Mandate that they all be compensated.

>> In the fall of last year, I got a call

from an inside source, who told me that in two weeks,

there's going to be a whistle blower from the CDC who is going

to come out and say that the CDC had committed fraud

on the MMR study and that they knew

that vaccines were actually causing autism.

I mean, that's a huge story.

Unfortunately it was a story I would not be able to tell

on a medical talk show, because a lot of our funding was coming

from the pharmaceutical industry,

and we were also very good friends with the CDC,

who had appeared on our show many times.

But I knew that once this story broke, two weeks later,

that the mainstream news media would pick it up.

Fox would be on it.

CNN would be on it.

MSNBC, and we're talking about the biggest medical story

in the last decade or two at least.

So that two weeks came.

I saw the video that was posted by Andrew Wakefield

and Brian Hooker, and I heard the words

of William Thompson and his confession.

>> Oh my god, I cannot believe we did what we did.

But we did.

It's all there.

It's all there.

>> And I watched the Blogosphere go crazy, tweets, Facebook,

social media, everybody talking about it.

But not one mainstream media source went anywhere near

the story.

In fact, on CNN someone put the story

up on iReport, and CNN took it down.

And at that moment, I realized wait a minute.

Not only is my medical talk show being produced

by the pharmaceutical industry, all of television is.

We were never going to get this story.

But we certainly did get a story.

>> A highly contagious measles outbreak.

>> Major outbreak.

>> Measles outbreaks.

>> Measles on the march in America.

>> This outbreak is showing no signs of letting up.

>> But in 2014, the number tripled,

to 644 measles cases reported in 27 states.

>> It's really amazing to consider the number of cases

of autism every year, and to contrast

that to let's say the number of children who acquired measles

by going to Disneyland.

It's a tiny number of children who acquired measles,

and it's a vast number of children who are being diagnosed

with autism every day.

>> We don't know what causes autism.

I mean, that's fair to say.

We are not sure

in the scientific community what causes autism,

but we know that vaccines do not.

>> Now, I'm not saying that Sanjay Gupta is a bad guy.

In fact, I think that he tries to do a lot of good.

Just like many doctors do.

But if they're being lied to by the scientific body

that provides them with their information,

what happens to all of us?

What happens if a good doctor sees the same data that I saw?

>> So you're a scientist, basically.

So you're studying this.

And you feel 100% confident, you even said you have kids,

so you're a family person.

>> Yes.

>> You would feel very...

>> How long have you been a doctor,

and sort of what is your area of specialty?

>> Sure, I've been a family medical physician

for over 10 years now, in treating families,

everyone from newborns all the way

up to my oldest patient is 96.

>> So do you administer vaccines as part of that?

>> Yes I do administer vaccines.

In our clinic, we follow the CDC recommendations,

and we give that information to our patients,

and we give them a schedule of when their children are going

to need to be vaccinated, and so on and so forth.

>> There's something I want to show you.

This is the formal complaint about what they've been given

by William Thompson, as well the CDC.

Okay? There's all sorts of reference materials

in here and things like that.

I'm just going to give you time to look at it,

study it as long as you want, okay?

When you feel like you have a grasp of it, you are going

to know, it's going to take some time,

appreciate you taking the time.

>> All right.

>> All right?

Okay.

>> So I have sent you what William Thompson has said is the

fraud at the CDC.

All of that data that was missing.

Did you get a chance to really look it over?

>> It's really unbelievable.

How blatantly the data was switched around.

It made me question whether or not this organization

that has been mandating how I practice medicine

for the past 10 years, if they're lying about this,

they're leaving data out about this particular study--

what else am I being lied to about?

>> I'm still trying to digest it.

Because this study, which was used to kind

of give the definitive answer to us pediatricians, that oh,

the MMR is not related to autism,

I kind of feel

like I've been lied to.

When they set out to do the study, they wanted to look

at the data, and interpret the data, but then there is a piece

of data that they chose to ignore.

The data they excluded was really, really significant.

>> Think about it.

It is a big deal.

It is a big deal for a physician to have to deal with the fact

that for the past 10, 20 years,

we've been potentially destroying the brains

of children.

>> Everything I've been telling my patients

for the last 10 years has been based on a lie and a cover up.

>> Parents making decisions

about their children's health deserve

to have the best information available to them.

They should be able to count on federal agencies

to tell them the truth.

>> Once Brian and I had outed Bill Thompson,

he got himself a whistle-blower lawyer, he provided all

of his documents on the fraudulent CDC study

to Congressman Posey, who then went before the Congress.

>> Considering the nature of the whistle blower's documents,

as well as the involvement of the CDC, a hearing

and a thorough investigation is warranted.

So I ask Mr. Speaker, I beg, I implore my colleagues

on the Appropriations Committees to please,

please take such action.

Thank you Mr. Speaker, I yield back.

>> It's now been 7 months

since Congressman Bill Posey urged the Congress

to subpoena Bill Thompson, and they have done nothing.

>> Bill Thompson wants to be subpoenaed by Congress.

As a CDC employee from the federal government,

he cannot speak voluntarily

because of the threat of jail time.

>> Absolutely, William Thompson needs to go before Congress.

He needs to go before the whole nation.

Everybody needs to see what he has to say.

>> He needs to be deposed in front

of a committee in Congress.

And Julie Gerberding has to be brought in and deposed.

Because this is a very, very, very disturbing revelation.

For this researcher to come forward and be saying now

that they were indeed deliberately concealing critical

information about an MMR autism link--

horrible, horrible development.

>> Deviation from an analysis plan.

Omission of crucial data.

Destruction of documents.

Obstruction of justice.

Misleading the Congress.

Grievous harm to innocent children.

This has to be investigated.

>> You and I are in agreement.

Vaccine safety should not be in the CDC.

>> Absolutely.

You would end up with an agency

like the National Transportation Safety Board.

>> The next thing they need to do is somebody needs

to reintroduce the Weldon-Maloney Bill.

It needs to be very, very quickly enacted, and you need

to take all of the vaccine safety responsibilities

out of the CDC.

>> These children have been maimed by the actions

of Coleen Boyle, Frank DeStefano,

Marshalyn Yeargin-Allsop, and Tanya Bhasin.

My son has been debilitated for 17 years.

I think jail time is too good for these individuals

who have perpetrated such fraud.

>> The notion of vaccinating children, protecting children

against serious infectious disease with vaccines

that are safe and effective is laudable.

You hear about measles outbreaks in Disneyland,

and then they try and sell you MMR.

We didn't see autism being reported as a consequence

of the single vaccine, only of the triple vaccine.

So my feeling is that we need

to review vaccination policy across the board.

But in the first instance,

I do believe we can make the problem far less

if we separate those vaccines

out into their single measles, mumps and rubella.

>> I just cannot imagine what it will be

like if we really do face a future

in which half the children born end up on the autism spectrum.

I mean, it will be so disruptive of the school system.

There will be so little money to be able to spend

on the normal children to help them to bring them

up and to educate them.

We're just going to have extremely sick children.

And parents that will be so distracted by the challenge

of bringing up these children that are so sick

that our society will not be able to focus on anything else.

>> The implications of that for our country,

for our competitiveness as a nation,

for our economy, are massive.

They must know, and they do know,

that there is a national emergency.

>> I mean this is going to be a complete catastrophe

if we just let it happen.

>> What will you say the next time a mother sitting there

with her baby in her hands says Dr. Rachel,

is the MMR vaccine safe?

>> Hm...I'm going to tell her.

I'm going to say, you know, honestly I'm not going

to give the MMR vaccine to my babies, and here's why.

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