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>> In California, the
worst measles outbreak
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in 15 years is spreading.
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>> The virus is roaring back
into the headlines tonight.
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An outbreak, somehow traced to--
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>> Someone who had probably
caught measles abroad visited
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Disneyland and may have sneezed.
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>> Measles on the
march in America.
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>> This outbreak is
showing no signs of letting
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up there are already more cases
this year than there were...
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>> The number tripled
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to 644 measles cases
reported in 27 states.
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>> I mean, is this all
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basically because of the
anti-vaccination movement?
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Because parents aren't
vaccinating their kids?
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>> Yeah, you know, I think so.
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>> A bill that would
ban exemptions
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from childhood vaccines
is advancing
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through the California
legislature.
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>> We are offering legislation
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that will abolish the
personal belief exemption.
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>> I think you're
starting to see why it is
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that mandates are so important.
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>> There has been some
inaccurate information
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circulating about
vaccines, mostly stemming
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from a British study
linking vaccines to autism.
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>> Still continued here,
the vaccine caused autism,
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even though that
has been debunked.
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>> Repeatedly and
thoroughly debunked.
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>> You may have heard
vaccination causes autism
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in one out of 110 children.
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Fuck that.
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Total bullshit.
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It doesn't.
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>> The bill requiring children
to be vaccinated has passed
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with bipartisan support.
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Every child must meet
immunization standards
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before joining public schools,
private schools and daycares.
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>> I would strongly encourage
everybody, look at the science,
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look at the facts, CDC, the
Center for Disease Control,
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can give you good information.
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Get your children vaccinated.
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[ Music ]
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[ Buzzing Sound ]
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>> Hello?
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>> I was sitting at
my desk where I teach
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at Simpson University.
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My phone rings.
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It's Dr. William Thompson.
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>> Brian, you and I don't
know each other very well.
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I don't know how this is
all going to play out.
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You have a son with autism,
and I have great shame now,
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when I meet families
with kids with autism.
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Because I have been
part of the problem.
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>> My son Steven was
born in February of 1998.
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Steve, what does the cow say?
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>> Moo.
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>> Tweet, tweet.
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>> Tweet!
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>> Doggie.
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>> Yeah.
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>> Two weeks after his 15 month
vaccines, he lost all language.
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He lost all eye contact.
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We pick him up and he
would just hang limp.
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This is a time where
CDC was just starting
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to do these studies on
vaccines and autism.
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As a scientist, I
have over 60 technical
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and scientific publications
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in major international
scientific journals,
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and I was contacting the CDC
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and was deeply critical
of their studies.
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And so the CDC decided that
the scientist who was going
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to interface with me at that
time was Dr. William Thompson.
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Because I was on his
back, because he didn't
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like what I was saying about the
statistics, I received a letter
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from a CDC attorney
in 2004 saying
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that I was no longer
permitted to contact the CDC.
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Fast forwarding to 2014,
Thompson said to me,
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"Brian if you listen to me, and
if you do what I tell you to do,
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I can guarantee you will be
able to access a treasure trove
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of data, and I would like to
guide you through these steps.
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>> So I wanted to be a resource,
I wanted to be valuable to you.
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I want you to have
someone in the system...
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>> For years, I had been trying
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to crack this edifice
of the CDC.
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And just getting little
glimpses of what was not right.
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>> The CDC has put the
research 10 years behind.
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Because the CDC has
not been transparent,
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we've missed 10 years of
research because the CDC
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is so paralyzed right now by
anything related to autism.
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>> I am a licensed
clinical psychologist
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and a board certified
behavior analyst.
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In 1978, I want to say the
prevalence of autism was
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about 1 in 15,000 children.
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It was a very rare disorder.
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I was working at
a clinic at UCLA,
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which was pretty much
the only known center
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for treating children with
autism, and we had maybe 6
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to 10 children we
were working with.
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Somewhere around the early 90s,
shortly after I opened card,
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the growth of autism has
been so high and so rapid
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that I've never felt like I
could ever catch up anymore.
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From an official
diagnostic perspective,
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the way that we define
autism, we were looking
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at deficits in two areas.
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The first is social
communication
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and social interaction.
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And in that area we require
three specific symptoms
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to be present.
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Symptoms such as no social
emotional reciprocity.
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No nonverbal communication.
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That means eye contact,
for instance.
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Or no development
of relationships.
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The second required area
of deficit is the presence
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of stereotypic repetitive
restricted behaviors.
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And these are things like
hand flapping, body rocking,
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insistence on routines
being the same.
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One of the new additions
is the presence
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of a sensory dysregulation.
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If a child has an inability
to sense things correctly,
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not necessarily hearing
things the way we do,
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that could be classified
as a symptom of autism.
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So you have five
symptoms, two in the area
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of repetitive behaviors,
and three in the area
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of social communication deficit,
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then you will get
a classification
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of what is called autism
spectrum disorder, ASD.
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>> We begin though, as
always, keeping them honest.
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Breaking news tonight,
just hours ago,
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the British Medical
Journal, the BMJ,
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did something extremely rare
for a scientific journal.
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It accused a researcher, Andrew
Wakefield, of outright fraud.
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>> I got a call on
the 19th of May 1995
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from a mother telling me
the story of her child,
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his regression into
autism following a vaccine,
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and I said "How can I help you?
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I know nothing about autism.
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You've come through
the wrong number."
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And she said, "No, doctor,
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my child has terrible
gastrointestinal issues,
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and no one will take
them seriously."
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I was an academic
gastroenterologist doing
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research with a particular
interest in Crohn's disease,
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ulcerative colitis,
inflammatory bowel disease.
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I knew nothing whatsoever
about autism.
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When I was at medical
school it was
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so rare we weren't
taught about it.
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We heard a succession of stories
which were very, very similar.
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Medicine is about
pattern recognition,
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and there was a clear
pattern emerging.
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So we decided, a group of us,
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including the world's leading
pediatric gastroenterologist
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at the time, led by
professor John Walker Smith,
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decided that these children
merited thorough investigation.
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>> Well Dr. Wakefield
has been shown
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to use absolutely fraudulent
data, created a fake paper,
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the journal allowed it to run.
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All the other studies were done,
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showed no connection whatsoever
again and again and again,
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so it's an absolute lie that
has killed thousands of kids.
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>> What we discovered
and reported
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for the first time was this
link between what appeared
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to be a novel type of
intestinal inflammation,
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and autistic regression
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in previously developmentally
normal children.
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And among those, the
majority had regressed
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into autism according to their
parents following the measles,
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mumps, rubella vaccine.
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It wasn't our place
to censor that story,
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because it may be
uncomfortable for public health.
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Our job was to report
that story accurately,
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in order that it might lead
to further investigation
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and the paper explicitly said,
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this paper does not prove an
association between MMR vaccine
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and the syndrome described.
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More work is needed
to resolve this issue.
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That was the conclusion
of the paper.
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>> As an investigative
medical journalist,
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I've spent the last 7
years working on one
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of the best medical
talk shows in the world.
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We know in medicine that
there have been many,
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many studies proving that
vaccines do not cause autism.
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But the problem I have always
had with that is that thousands
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and thousands of parents
all telling the same story.
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My child got a vaccine.
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Usually the MMR vaccine.
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And then that night
or the next day broke
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out in a fever [baby crying]
and then when they came
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out of the fever, lost speech
[baby crying], lost the ability
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to walk, basically
regressed into what we know
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as autism, and never came back.
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Doctors used to be told to
listen to their patient.
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That was the cornerstone
of medicine as we know it.
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But something has
changed recently
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where the patient doesn't know
what they're talking about,
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and these parents, with their
story of their children,
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have just been written off
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as if they have no idea
what is really going
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on with their child.
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I have two kids.
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And anyone that has
children knows
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that when we first have
babies, we are overly sensitive
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to every little hiccup,
every cough, every sniffle.
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So to say that a
parent was just unaware
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that their child had issues,
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and suddenly they
realized one year later
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that oh they have autism,
that doesn't make sense to me.
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And so I wanted to look
into this story and find
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out what is this
disconnect between medicine,
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science, and real parents?
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>> I couldn't wait to be a mom.
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I remembered specifically,
before we even got married,
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talking about how important
children would be in our lives.
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>> I wanted a daughter
first, and I wanted a son,
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and we were planning on
having four children.
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>> We were going to be
the most perfect parents
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that we could be.
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>> Bella was born, and that
was a wonderful experience.
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>> Bella was just this
angelic, perfect child,
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she hit all her milestones.
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I got pregnant with
Billy quite quickly.
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Bella, say hello to Billy.
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>> Hello.
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>> We've now got a beautiful
girl and a beautiful boy,
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and life was just amazing.
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So at 2, 4 and 6 months, Billy
had his normal baby vaccines.
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A little bit sniffly,
chesty-coldy,
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after the last one, so me--
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in my perfect mother mode,
rushed to the doctor.
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You know, is he okay?
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Do I need to give him anything?
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Yes, you need to
give him antibiotics,
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just to make sure there is
not an infection in there.
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It didn't clear up.
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Brought him back to the doctor,
had even more antibiotics,
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let's just keep this
going in him.
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And I remember my
mother calling up,
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my mother is a homeopathic
hippie,
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and called up saying
what are you doing?
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In chucking those antibiotics
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down your son's throat--
for what?
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And I'm saying to her
mum, with all due respect,
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you're an artist, and they're
doctors, so they know best.
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He was due his MMR
vaccination at 12 months.
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So the morning, exactly to the
day, my friend, she said to me,
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"Listen, I've heard that
there may be a problem
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with this vaccine you're about
to take Billy in for, the MMR."
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I said "Are you crazy?
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What is the matter with you?
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If there was a problem with
the vaccination it would be
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headline news.
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The doctor would be calling me
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up saying do not bother coming
in, this is not a safe vaccine.
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None of that is happening.
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You're being negative.
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You're being careless,
and you're listening
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to what some rumor that
you heard somewhere,
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Billy could become deaf
if I don't take him
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in now and get him this MMR.
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>> You know, most of the
evidence linking measles
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with autism has kind of
settled down, and most doctors
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and scientists agree that it
probably isn't the major cause.
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>> I've been working in
pediatrics for almost 20 years.
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I think most pediatricians
view vaccines
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as they are the number one
thing they do for kids.
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>> Okay there we go.
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>> High-five.
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All right.
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That was really good.
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>> I'm young enough to not
remember the days of kids
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in an iron lung, because
they were battling polio.
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You know, polio has
essentially been eradicated
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from this country.
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In 98 the Wakefield
study had come out,
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my son had just been born.
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That study kind of pointed
a finger at the MMR.
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As a parent, I was scared
to give the MMR to my son,
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and as a matter of fact, we-- I
didn't give it to him on time.
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Because I wanted to see.
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I wanted to see what
additional studies would show.
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And over time, additional
studies did show
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that no, it's safe.
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So he did get the vaccine.
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You know, if everybody
stopped vaccinating,
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we would be going
back to the dark ages.
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>> When a CDC scientist, who
had been there, at that time,
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17 years, tells you this
is how you access data,
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it didn't take me very
long to realize oh,
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I'd better do what he says.
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Because he knows what
he's talking about.
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>> I just want to
tell you one thing.
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Right now, I'm sitting at a
very pretty position in terms
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of providing you a
lot of information.
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>> He asked me what data sets
are you going to request?
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And I said, well I'm going
to request two of the studies
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that you've done on Thimerosal,
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the mercury-containing
preservative that is used
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in some of the vaccines.
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And he said well that's
fine, but I want you
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to request the MMR data set
first, and this is the study
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by Frank DeStefano and
his colleagues in 2004.
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>> It was the one study
where we could end
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up creating a mess while
the CDC tried to, you know,
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tried to sort out something
they couldn't understand.
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>> The day Billy got the
MMR was a living nightmare,
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worst day of my life,
to be honest with you.
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>> I came in and I saw him
lying in his cot, listless.
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He started this uncontrollable
shaking.
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Uncontrollable shaking.
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Imagine coming out
of a frozen pond.
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>> His eyes were doing this,
and he was shaking, like this.
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>> And I remember she grasped
him and held him really tight.
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To her chest.
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>> There's immediate fear
in Jon, and immediate,
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mommy this is not
going to happen,
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I don't know what
is wrong with you,
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but this is not going to happen.
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And we get to hospital, we rush
him in, doctors are coming in,
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looking at him, that's when
they said he's had a reaction,
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he's had a seizure, this
is normal, this is common,
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for many, many children
who have this vaccination,
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it's absolutely okay,
he's going to be fine.
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Nobody ever told me that there
would be any side effect to any
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of the vaccinations
my children had.
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>> Following his
febrile convulsion
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that he had the same
day of the MMR,
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we were told to take him home.
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>> He slept in the bed
with us for the night,
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he seemed just very,
very sleepy.
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In fact, he didn't
ever really wake
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up to the Billy that
we had before.
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>> For me, it became really
necessary to start looking
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at what types of medical
issues are these children
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going through?
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What are the other factors
that have affected them,
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that have brought
them to this level
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of symptomatology
that we call autism.
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This is now probably
the mid-90s.
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I came to notice that there
was A, a very high use
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of antibiotics amongst
these children, but B,
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what became pretty interesting
was seeing the number
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of families who were reporting
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that their child had
a regressive type
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of behavior occur right
after their vaccinations.
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A lot of these parents
were showing me footage
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of their children who had been
completely developing normally
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until 18 months, and then all
of a sudden, post-vaccination,
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developed incredible regression.
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Children who had speech anywhere
close to 50 to 100 words,
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and had completely lost
all of their words.
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Children who were extremely
attached and interactive
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with their parents had
suddenly become isolated,
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no longer responding
to their own name.
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This was all happening right
after their MMR vaccines.
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>> My oldest son, Ian, was born
normal, developing normally.
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He was this beautiful
boy, and we ended
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up at our 12-month visit,
which is his one year,
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then they gave him
multiple vaccines at once,
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and within 7 days,
he had a 104 fever,
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and a rash all over his body.
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He had previously been noted,
and in our videos, home videos,
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that he was walking, and
actually running at that point.
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Seven days after the vaccine, he
was no longer able to do that.
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>> He was falling down.
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He became a really
sick, sick little boy.
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>> So the question for those
of us investigating autism,
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is age of exposure to
MMR, a risk for autism.
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And in order to understand
why that might be,
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you have to understand something
of the history of MMR vaccine.
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In 1987, there was an MMR
vaccine that was being used
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in Canada, produced by
Smith-Kline-Beecham,
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and that vaccine
caused meningitis.
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It was recognized quickly,
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and that vaccine was
withdrawn in Canada.
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However, in the same month that
it was withdrawn in Ontario,
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it was licensed in the U.K.,
the name was simply changed
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from Trivirix, to Pluserix,
in the U.K. it was used
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for four years, and likewise,
caused meningitis and had
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to be rapidly withdrawn.
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There was a public outcry.
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There was an acute loss of
confidence by the public
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in vaccine policy makers,
and the vaccine should
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at that point have
been destroyed.
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It wasn't.
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It was then shipped to
developing countries
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like Brazil, where it was used
in a mass vaccination campaign,
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and there was an
epidemic of meningitis,
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which was entirely predictable.
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Now scientists studied that
epidemic, and what they found is
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that the risk for meningitis was
associated with age of exposure.
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The younger you got
the MMR vaccine,
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the greater the risk
for meningitis.
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For people like me
investigating autism,
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the question was is there
a similar risk in autism?
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Is age of exposure to MMR
a risk for autism just
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as it was for meningitis?
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We shared with the U.S. Congress
and the CDC the hypothesis.
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The story as told to us, and
which we have an obligation
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to report is that the majority
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of children regressed following
a period of normal development
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in the face of an
MMR vaccination.
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That does not mean it is
the cause of the disease.
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>> The Institute of Medicine
is a body of scientists
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and physicians that review the
available data on vaccine safety
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and then advise our government
on vaccine research policy.
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Well, because Andy Wakefield
had put forth this theory
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that the age at which you
receive the MMR may increase
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your risk of autism, the
IOM looked to the CDC
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to do that very study.
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It was a study about timing.
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Does the earlier you receive the
MMR vaccine increase the risk
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of autism?
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>> When we talk about
the MMR study,
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nobody had ever requested
those data,
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because it was a big
secret that you could do it.
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Thompson told me to email
such and such a person,
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and then on the inside,
I also found out that one
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of the people preparing
these data sets
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for me was Bill Thompson.
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>> They don't really
want people to know
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that this data exists,
again, you know?
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I just can't believe we
actually got you that data.
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>> Thompson couldn't send
these documents directly
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to Brian Hooker, because
that would have been illegal.
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What Thompson identified was a
legal loophole that is referred
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to as a citizen's request.
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That allowed Thompson to deliver
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to Brian Hooker potentially
classified information
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in a legal way.
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>> You get checked in England,
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with your babies,
at certain times.
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Health, by health visitors.
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So nine months Billy
had his full blown check
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and there was no
parental concerns,
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baby laughing, babbling,
talking.
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So we passed that
with flying colors.
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Eighteen months is when they
next come in, and by this time,
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we know there is something
seriously wrong with Billy.
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>> Probably within
five or six days,
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the first signs really
was this vacancy.
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He wasn't the same smiley
little baby that he was before.
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He had a blank expression.
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Then the diarrhea kicked in.
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>> His tummy started to get
bigger and bigger, bloated.
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Rock hard bloated tummy.
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He would start to
walk on tiptoes.
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His hair fell out, and this
dreadful, high-pitched scream,
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sort of whiny scream
developed from him,
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and then came the head banging.
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The constant banging
against his crib.
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The constant banging against
the floor or a wall or anything
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that he could find
to bang his head on,
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he would thrash it,
and thrash it.
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Jon and I would lie in bed
at night just listening
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to this thud, thud,
thud, [banging sounds].
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>> Thud.
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>> There's nothing-- now not
even noticing his sister he used
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to play with.
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Jon comes through the front
door after work, no recognition
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that we were his parents, or
that this child even belonged
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to us, nothing,nothing.
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Gone.
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>> I mean, that was the
time where, our boy changed
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from what he was, to a real
tragic, tragic case of a child
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who regressed into this autistic
state, and lost everything.
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Lost everything.
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>> The CDC, the way that
they do research studies is
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very reactionary.
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They look at something
that is creating the press,
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and creating a buzz, that could
actually lower vaccination
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rates, and that's
what they study.
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They don't study
vaccines proactively.
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So if Andy had never done
his original study and gotten
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that published in The Lancet,
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would have never
created the uproar
477
00:25:50,367 --> 00:25:52,633
that rightfully it
should have created,
478
00:25:52,633 --> 00:25:55,600
then the CDC would have
never studied this.
479
00:25:57,733 --> 00:26:00,100
>> The press conference for
The Lancet paper was called
480
00:26:00,100 --> 00:26:02,400
by the Dean of the medical
school, who was the Chairman
481
00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:05,067
of the Media Committee.
482
00:26:13,067 --> 00:26:16,633
>> I had done an
extensive research
483
00:26:16,633 --> 00:26:20,833
into measles vaccine safety
and MMR vaccine safety
484
00:26:20,833 --> 00:26:22,633
in the pre-licensing phase.
485
00:26:22,633 --> 00:26:25,967
In other words, what safety
studies had been done before
486
00:26:25,967 --> 00:26:29,467
these vaccines were put onto
the market and into children?
487
00:26:29,467 --> 00:26:33,767
The 250 page report
was compiled by me,
488
00:26:33,767 --> 00:26:37,400
showing that the vaccine
safety studies for MMR
489
00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:40,800
in particular, were lamentable.
490
00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:42,100
They were lamentable.
491
00:26:42,100 --> 00:26:44,900
Many, many assumptions have
been made about the safety
492
00:26:44,900 --> 00:26:47,667
of this vaccine, and
there had been problems
493
00:26:47,667 --> 00:26:50,567
which had been airbrushed.
494
00:26:50,567 --> 00:26:54,333
So I wrote to my
colleagues, and the Dean,
495
00:26:54,333 --> 00:26:57,700
and I said going forward there
are going to be questions
496
00:26:57,700 --> 00:26:59,833
about what parents
should do next.
497
00:26:59,833 --> 00:27:02,733
I cannot in due conscience
support continued use
498
00:27:02,733 --> 00:27:05,333
of the MMR vaccine,
having done this research.
499
00:27:05,333 --> 00:27:08,333
I said, I will continue to
vigorously support the use
500
00:27:08,333 --> 00:27:10,100
of the single vaccine.
501
00:27:10,100 --> 00:27:14,533
But can no longer support the
use of the triple MMR vaccine.
502
00:27:14,533 --> 00:27:16,267
So the dean, the chairman
503
00:27:16,267 --> 00:27:18,067
of that committee,
had three choices.
504
00:27:18,067 --> 00:27:21,933
He could have not had
a press conference.
505
00:27:21,933 --> 00:27:25,567
He could have banned me
from the press conference,
506
00:27:25,567 --> 00:27:29,567
or when the question came
up, as inevitably it would,
507
00:27:29,567 --> 00:27:32,867
what do parents do next about
vaccinating their children?
508
00:27:32,867 --> 00:27:34,567
He knew what my response
would be.
509
00:27:34,567 --> 00:27:37,967
He could deflect the
question to someone else.
510
00:27:37,967 --> 00:27:39,867
When the question
came up on the day,
511
00:27:39,867 --> 00:27:42,067
he directed it straight to me.
512
00:27:52,700 --> 00:27:56,067
>> All I recommended at
that press conference was
513
00:27:56,067 --> 00:28:00,067
that parents opt for the
use of the single vaccines.
514
00:28:00,067 --> 00:28:03,667
Single measles, single
mumps, single rubella,
515
00:28:03,667 --> 00:28:07,933
until the issue had been
resolved scientifically.
516
00:28:07,933 --> 00:28:10,867
What happened when I
made that recommendation,
517
00:28:10,867 --> 00:28:13,767
unilateral decisions were made
by the government in the U.K.
518
00:28:13,767 --> 00:28:18,067
to withdraw the importation
license for the single vaccines,
519
00:28:18,067 --> 00:28:21,233
Merck opting in the U.S.
to cease the production
520
00:28:21,233 --> 00:28:24,533
of the single vaccines,
giving parents no option.
521
00:28:24,533 --> 00:28:27,167
I said to a senior
representative to the Department
522
00:28:27,167 --> 00:28:30,533
of Health, why, if your
objective is to protect children
523
00:28:30,533 --> 00:28:32,600
against serious infectious
disease,
524
00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:36,267
why would you take away the
option of how parents do that?
525
00:28:36,267 --> 00:28:39,067
And she said "because if
we allow parents the choice
526
00:28:39,067 --> 00:28:43,167
of single vaccines, it would
destroy our MMR program."
527
00:28:43,167 --> 00:28:46,267
In other words, the concern
was for the protection
528
00:28:46,267 --> 00:28:49,900
of the program, over and above
the protection of children.
529
00:28:54,067 --> 00:28:56,600
>> No one's career
has ever been advanced
530
00:28:56,600 --> 00:29:00,733
in the medical industrial
complex by being outwardly
531
00:29:00,733 --> 00:29:03,800
and openly critical of
the vaccine industry.
532
00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:07,567
I'm Mark Blaxill, father
of a daughter diagnosed
533
00:29:07,567 --> 00:29:10,533
with autism back in 1998.
534
00:29:10,533 --> 00:29:13,533
I've written two books that have
come out of the autism movement,
535
00:29:13,533 --> 00:29:18,333
that have been projected into
autism advocacy ever since.
536
00:29:18,333 --> 00:29:20,067
Michaela was born typical.
537
00:29:20,067 --> 00:29:21,633
Everything was fine.
538
00:29:21,633 --> 00:29:24,067
She was developing normally
through her first birthday.
539
00:29:24,067 --> 00:29:28,167
We had vivid memories of,
you know, early language,
540
00:29:28,167 --> 00:29:30,067
joined attention, lots of play.
541
00:29:30,067 --> 00:29:32,867
She was adorable,
beautiful, cute.
542
00:29:32,867 --> 00:29:37,633
And then somewhere in the months
after she began to slip away,
543
00:29:37,633 --> 00:29:40,767
and she lost language,
and she began to retreat
544
00:29:40,767 --> 00:29:42,900
into a world of her own.
545
00:29:42,900 --> 00:29:48,267
And at 2 years, 9 months,
we got a formal diagnosis
546
00:29:48,267 --> 00:29:50,600
of a full syndrome autism.
547
00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:54,167
It was a hopeless,
pessimistic future
548
00:29:54,167 --> 00:29:55,533
that was laid out
in front of us.
549
00:29:55,533 --> 00:29:57,900
She was going to be disabled
for the rest of her life,
550
00:29:57,900 --> 00:30:02,233
likely to be non-vocal,
in an institution,
551
00:30:02,233 --> 00:30:07,067
and that the best thing we could
do was to accept the inevitable.
552
00:30:07,067 --> 00:30:11,233
Part of the story we heard
from the Harvard experts was
553
00:30:11,233 --> 00:30:14,867
that autism was genetic,
it was low
554
00:30:14,867 --> 00:30:17,333
and relatively constant
prevalence.
555
00:30:17,333 --> 00:30:19,467
The more I learned,
the more clear was
556
00:30:19,467 --> 00:30:22,833
that that whole orthodox
view was false.
557
00:30:22,833 --> 00:30:23,800
Completely false.
558
00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:26,033
Revolutions only
happen in science
559
00:30:26,033 --> 00:30:27,900
when there is an anomaly.
560
00:30:27,900 --> 00:30:30,900
An anomaly that the old
orthodoxy can't explain.
561
00:30:30,900 --> 00:30:33,500
With autism, the anomaly
was the explosion in cases,
562
00:30:33,500 --> 00:30:35,800
which meant that what people
were trying to describe
563
00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:39,167
as a genetic, neurologically
based condition couldn't
564
00:30:39,167 --> 00:30:40,433
be genetic.
565
00:30:40,433 --> 00:30:41,800
It could only be environmental.
566
00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:43,200
It could only be
some set of things
567
00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:45,033
that happened to children.
568
00:30:45,033 --> 00:30:49,567
And you had to ask the question
what might it have been?
569
00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:57,467
>> One of my personal training
clients was the Director
570
00:30:57,467 --> 00:31:01,233
of Programs for LWT
London Weekend Television.
571
00:31:01,233 --> 00:31:04,700
>> And this guy said why
don't you do a program,
572
00:31:04,700 --> 00:31:07,667
and people out there,
there may be someone
573
00:31:07,667 --> 00:31:09,067
out there with this condition.
574
00:31:09,067 --> 00:31:11,633
>> He said this is going to
be an unbelievable story.
575
00:31:11,633 --> 00:31:13,733
>> And we thought we've got
nothing to lose, right now,
576
00:31:13,733 --> 00:31:16,933
this child is either going to
kill himself because he's going
577
00:31:16,933 --> 00:31:19,767
to smash his head to pieces,
or we're going to go insane,
578
00:31:19,767 --> 00:31:21,733
because everybody
here is miserable.
579
00:31:21,733 --> 00:31:29,500
>> That program was aired, and
we received 250,000 email hits.
580
00:31:29,500 --> 00:31:31,433
>> Computers were
kind of new then,
581
00:31:31,433 --> 00:31:32,967
the whole internet
computer thing.
582
00:31:32,967 --> 00:31:34,367
Ours crashed.
583
00:31:34,367 --> 00:31:36,433
We set up a Billy website, you
know, just in case somebody--
584
00:31:36,433 --> 00:31:39,067
one person, might
be able to help us.
585
00:31:39,067 --> 00:31:41,833
Crashed. The television
station's computers crashed.
586
00:31:41,833 --> 00:31:45,333
They had never seen
anything like this before.
587
00:31:45,333 --> 00:31:49,700
The parents had exactly
the same story as us.
588
00:31:49,700 --> 00:31:53,367
Antibiotics, some with
chicken pox, a lot vaccine.
589
00:31:53,367 --> 00:31:56,567
Bang, the symptoms all the same.
590
00:31:56,567 --> 00:32:00,700
The diarrhea, the constipation,
the high-pitched scream,
591
00:32:00,700 --> 00:32:03,100
the banging of the head,
we've all lived through it.
592
00:32:03,100 --> 00:32:04,500
It was the same story.
593
00:32:04,500 --> 00:32:08,167
>> And it was Polly's idea to
put all of this stuff together
594
00:32:08,167 --> 00:32:11,733
in a magazine called
The Autism File.
595
00:32:11,733 --> 00:32:15,300
>> They all ask the questions,
and maybe someone can help.
596
00:32:15,300 --> 00:32:19,767
>> These questions from these
parents were not being answered
597
00:32:19,767 --> 00:32:22,900
by the doctors that
they went to see.
598
00:32:22,900 --> 00:32:25,500
They came to us out
of desperation,
599
00:32:25,500 --> 00:32:30,067
and we had 45,000
subscribers within four months.
600
00:32:33,567 --> 00:32:37,533
>> When I originally
got the MMR autism data,
601
00:32:37,533 --> 00:32:41,067
I came up with my own
analysis plan, and I stepped
602
00:32:41,067 --> 00:32:42,733
through logically
603
00:32:42,733 --> 00:32:46,300
and systematically how the data
should have been approached.
604
00:32:46,300 --> 00:32:51,067
I looked first of all
at males versus females.
605
00:32:51,067 --> 00:32:54,800
Then I looked at black
males, the relative risk
606
00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:59,067
of them receiving an autism
diagnosis was astronomical,
607
00:32:59,067 --> 00:33:01,633
and it was highly
statistically significant.
608
00:33:01,633 --> 00:33:05,367
I really had to scratch my
head and say I know nothing
609
00:33:05,367 --> 00:33:07,167
about the MMR vaccine.
610
00:33:07,167 --> 00:33:10,633
And so that's when I
originally called Andy.
611
00:33:10,633 --> 00:33:14,167
>> Wow, really?
612
00:33:14,167 --> 00:33:15,867
After everything
that had happened,
613
00:33:15,867 --> 00:33:17,800
everything that we
had all been through,
614
00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:21,900
everything the families had
suffered for the last 15 years,
615
00:33:21,900 --> 00:33:27,900
and the CDC had known all along
there was this MMR autism risk.
616
00:33:27,900 --> 00:33:31,233
>> As I started to divulge
more of the conversations,
617
00:33:31,233 --> 00:33:37,500
and I think it really hit him,
that this was a major crack
618
00:33:37,500 --> 00:33:39,933
in the wall of the CDC.
619
00:33:39,933 --> 00:33:43,467
>> The first thing that Thompson
did was to plot a graph.
620
00:33:43,467 --> 00:33:48,233
A graph of percentage of
children vaccinated against age
621
00:33:48,233 --> 00:33:50,733
at first MMR vaccination.
622
00:33:50,733 --> 00:33:54,067
The children with autism are
represented by the pink line.
623
00:33:54,067 --> 00:33:56,533
The children without
autism by the blue line.
624
00:33:56,533 --> 00:33:59,633
Now, if there's no link
between early MMR and autism,
625
00:33:59,633 --> 00:34:02,133
those two lines should
track together,
626
00:34:02,133 --> 00:34:03,600
whatever the age at first MMR.
627
00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:06,467
And they do track again.
628
00:34:06,467 --> 00:34:09,067
Until they get to 15
months, then they separate,
629
00:34:09,067 --> 00:34:12,833
then they continue to
separate thereafter.
630
00:34:12,833 --> 00:34:15,200
This was their first indication
631
00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:18,267
that MMR vaccine
was causing autism.
632
00:34:18,267 --> 00:34:21,500
And that finding alone rocked
Thompson back on his heels.
633
00:34:21,500 --> 00:34:24,667
>> This was a huge
issue for Andy.
634
00:34:24,667 --> 00:34:27,700
>> So I said to Brian,
Brian are you recording
635
00:34:27,700 --> 00:34:29,200
these conversations?
636
00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:32,833
>> Recording phone conversations
was not really palatable to me.
637
00:34:32,833 --> 00:34:34,300
Almost seemed cruel.
638
00:34:34,300 --> 00:34:38,233
>> Whistle blowers can disappear
as easily as they came.
639
00:34:38,233 --> 00:34:41,133
They're like a fish on
a hook, and your job is
640
00:34:41,133 --> 00:34:43,067
to get them into the boat.
641
00:34:48,500 --> 00:34:51,267
>> Temple walked at 12
months, so he had been walking
642
00:34:51,267 --> 00:34:53,733
for an entire month
before we went
643
00:34:53,733 --> 00:34:56,667
in for the next set
of vaccinations.
644
00:34:56,667 --> 00:34:59,600
The minute we walked into
the pediatric office,
645
00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:04,100
Lou, his twin, she is
screaming her head off,
646
00:35:04,100 --> 00:35:06,333
I mean she knows
what's going on.
647
00:35:06,333 --> 00:35:08,400
She doesn't want the
doctor touching her.
648
00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:11,333
I look up, and there's she's
got the shots lined up,
649
00:35:11,333 --> 00:35:13,800
three for him, three for her.
650
00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:17,467
By the second shot, Lucinda
had flipped herself over,
651
00:35:17,467 --> 00:35:21,533
so I had to stop looking
at what I was doing,
652
00:35:21,533 --> 00:35:23,367
unstrap her, get her out.
653
00:35:23,367 --> 00:35:25,067
Well, the minute I get
her out and I calm her
654
00:35:25,067 --> 00:35:28,467
down a little bit, and I
look over, he's screaming,
655
00:35:28,467 --> 00:35:31,067
I look at the shots,
and I notice
656
00:35:31,067 --> 00:35:33,933
that one of hers was gone.
657
00:35:33,933 --> 00:35:35,700
There are only two
shots left for her.
658
00:35:35,700 --> 00:35:39,233
And I asked the nurse
practitioner, I said,
659
00:35:39,233 --> 00:35:40,667
what happened to
that other shot?
660
00:35:40,667 --> 00:35:44,200
She says "Oh, oh my
goodness, I gave it to him."
661
00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:46,100
I said which one was it?
662
00:35:46,100 --> 00:35:48,233
She said it was the other MMR.
663
00:35:48,233 --> 00:35:49,833
I said call the doctor.
664
00:35:49,833 --> 00:35:52,133
This baby is screaming
his head off.
665
00:35:52,133 --> 00:35:53,533
You've given him an extra shot.
666
00:35:53,533 --> 00:35:56,133
I don't know what the effect
of that is going to be.
667
00:35:56,133 --> 00:35:56,867
We're leaving.
668
00:35:56,867 --> 00:35:57,900
And I left.
669
00:35:57,900 --> 00:35:59,600
So she never got her shots.
670
00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:02,867
I go home, this baby
cried, cried, cried.
671
00:36:02,867 --> 00:36:05,200
I put him down on
his little blanket,
672
00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:07,300
he starts banging his
head on the floor,
673
00:36:07,300 --> 00:36:09,633
banging his head on the floor.
674
00:36:09,633 --> 00:36:15,133
The next morning, I go in
his room, and he's staring
675
00:36:15,133 --> 00:36:17,633
into space, and he's
looking around like this.
676
00:36:17,633 --> 00:36:23,067
As if, you know,
he's a bit paralyzed.
677
00:36:23,067 --> 00:36:26,067
Not the baby who was always
doing this every morning,
678
00:36:26,067 --> 00:36:28,567
smiling for me to
get him out of bed.
679
00:36:28,567 --> 00:36:33,600
And I pick him up,
and he does this.
680
00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:37,200
And I said, what has
happened to my baby?
681
00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:38,533
So I call the clinic.
682
00:36:38,533 --> 00:36:43,233
And I said I think my child
has had an adverse reaction
683
00:36:43,233 --> 00:36:45,733
to those shots yesterday.
684
00:36:45,733 --> 00:36:47,933
She says "No, no, no.
685
00:36:47,933 --> 00:36:50,567
I'm waiting for the
representative from Merck.
686
00:36:50,567 --> 00:36:52,500
I don't think it's
a reaction to that."
687
00:36:52,500 --> 00:36:59,433
[ Music ]
688
00:36:59,433 --> 00:37:02,500
>> Bill Thompson looked
at African Americans,
689
00:37:02,500 --> 00:37:06,167
he saw that those African
Americans that got the MMR
690
00:37:06,167 --> 00:37:09,900
on time were 2.64
times more likely
691
00:37:09,900 --> 00:37:13,633
to get an autism diagnosis
than those African Americans
692
00:37:13,633 --> 00:37:16,200
that receive the MMR
after three years of age.
693
00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:19,833
>> So what Bill is suggesting
is that among the blacks,
694
00:37:19,833 --> 00:37:23,367
the ones that were getting
vaccinated earlier were more
695
00:37:23,367 --> 00:37:24,867
likely to have autism.
696
00:37:24,867 --> 00:37:29,133
>> At that point, the group of
researchers that was working
697
00:37:29,133 --> 00:37:32,367
on this particular study they
were having weekly meetings.
698
00:37:32,367 --> 00:37:35,400
Coleen Boyle, who was the head
699
00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:38,333
of developmental
disabilities branch
700
00:37:38,333 --> 00:37:40,467
and Marshalyn Yeargin-Allsop,
701
00:37:40,467 --> 00:37:42,933
who was one of Thompson's
direct supervisors.
702
00:37:42,933 --> 00:37:45,567
Frank DeStefano,
who was the head
703
00:37:45,567 --> 00:37:47,733
of the Immunization
Safety Office,
704
00:37:47,733 --> 00:37:51,967
and a post-doctoral research
associate named Tanya Bhasin.
705
00:37:51,967 --> 00:37:54,967
In that meeting, Thompson
brought up the fact
706
00:37:54,967 --> 00:38:00,067
that African Americans were
showing a highly statistically
707
00:38:00,067 --> 00:38:04,600
significant risk of autism
if they got the MMR on time.
708
00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:08,200
>> What is said in these
closed door meetings?
709
00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:11,400
I mean, do people say well
oh, this is unacceptable,
710
00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:14,600
or is it just do they always
say oh this can't be right?
711
00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:15,300
Or?
712
00:38:15,300 --> 00:38:16,533
>> I'm not going to lie.
713
00:38:16,533 --> 00:38:21,333
But I also don't want to
say things to you right now
714
00:38:21,333 --> 00:38:27,167
that aren't, that
aren't some written form.
715
00:38:27,167 --> 00:38:28,533
>> Right.
716
00:38:28,533 --> 00:38:34,100
>> The analysis regarding the
African Americans was the 8
717
00:38:34,100 --> 00:38:39,900
on the Richter scale earthquake
that just shook through the CDC.
718
00:38:39,900 --> 00:38:44,200
>> I take him to see the
pediatrician that I know.
719
00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:47,533
And she looks at me, she closes
the door, and she whispers.
720
00:38:47,533 --> 00:38:50,867
She says, "Sheila, I
believe he has autism."
721
00:38:50,867 --> 00:38:51,867
I said, "What?
722
00:38:51,867 --> 00:38:53,867
Like Rainman?"
723
00:38:53,867 --> 00:38:55,700
She says, "Something like that.
724
00:38:55,700 --> 00:38:58,233
I'm going to refer
y'all to a neurologist."
725
00:38:58,233 --> 00:39:01,567
And we go see the
neurologist the next week.
726
00:39:01,567 --> 00:39:06,433
He says he has every
classical symptom of autism.
727
00:39:06,433 --> 00:39:07,567
I do not believe this.
728
00:39:07,567 --> 00:39:08,700
I was angry.
729
00:39:08,700 --> 00:39:12,100
When he explained it
to me what autism is,
730
00:39:12,100 --> 00:39:13,700
he told me he was born that way.
731
00:39:13,700 --> 00:39:15,700
I said, no he wasn't.
732
00:39:15,700 --> 00:39:18,067
>> Clearly, there was a
very high risk of autism
733
00:39:18,067 --> 00:39:19,400
in African American children.
734
00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:20,700
Here's the thing.
735
00:39:20,700 --> 00:39:23,500
We know that autism is four
times more common in boys.
736
00:39:23,500 --> 00:39:25,367
And so to see that
effect mirrored
737
00:39:25,367 --> 00:39:28,800
in the African American children
was a compelling finding.
738
00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:32,833
>> When I looked at
African American males only,
739
00:39:32,833 --> 00:39:35,533
the relative risk was 3.36.
740
00:39:35,533 --> 00:39:37,200
It just blew my mind.
741
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:41,500
And that's when I wanted to
call Bill Thompson on the phone.
742
00:39:41,500 --> 00:39:43,367
And his statement to me was "Oh!
743
00:39:43,367 --> 00:39:44,633
You found it."
744
00:39:44,633 --> 00:39:48,733
>> It appears in the final
publication is that race
745
00:39:48,733 --> 00:39:50,267
in general is downplayed.
746
00:39:50,267 --> 00:39:52,500
>> Of course it is!
747
00:39:52,500 --> 00:40:01,567
[ Music ]
748
00:40:05,033 --> 00:40:07,267
>> Temple's twin is amazing.
749
00:40:07,267 --> 00:40:10,567
She is fluent in
three languages.
750
00:40:10,567 --> 00:40:13,267
She speaks French like a native.
751
00:40:13,267 --> 00:40:16,167
She is an A student.
752
00:40:16,167 --> 00:40:19,233
She plays classical piano.
753
00:40:19,233 --> 00:40:23,433
With all of the guilt
that I feel from that day,
754
00:40:23,433 --> 00:40:27,267
one of the best decisions I
made for her was to walk out of
755
00:40:27,267 --> 00:40:29,567
that office without
her being vaccinated.
756
00:40:29,567 --> 00:40:33,833
At the end of this journey,
I don't want to be one
757
00:40:33,833 --> 00:40:36,333
of those mothers standing there
saying I wish, I would have,
758
00:40:36,333 --> 00:40:38,033
could have, should have done.
759
00:40:38,033 --> 00:40:43,100
I want to be able to say I
gave it everything that I had.
760
00:40:43,100 --> 00:40:44,667
I gave it my best shot.
761
00:40:44,667 --> 00:40:49,700
His twin is going into the
11th grade and for someone
762
00:40:49,700 --> 00:40:52,467
who still can't manage
to cross the street.
763
00:40:52,467 --> 00:40:55,400
Now, am I grateful he's here?
764
00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:59,033
You bet. I'm grateful
my son lived [sobbing],
765
00:40:59,033 --> 00:41:05,300
I was so naïve that he
would live a fulfilling life.
766
00:41:05,300 --> 00:41:10,133
He would end up being
a happy man.
767
00:41:10,133 --> 00:41:12,767
Having a family [sobbing].
768
00:41:12,767 --> 00:41:14,433
My dreams for him.
769
00:41:14,433 --> 00:41:23,500
And every year that goes
by, the older my son gets,
770
00:41:24,433 --> 00:41:28,067
the further that
dream seems to be.
771
00:41:29,100 --> 00:41:32,233
>> All about vaccines!
772
00:41:32,233 --> 00:41:34,800
>> So what do vaccines do?
773
00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:36,800
>> Vaccines build up
your immune system
774
00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:38,733
and make you stronger
to fight off disease.
775
00:41:38,733 --> 00:41:40,533
>> Are vaccines safe?
776
00:41:40,533 --> 00:41:42,400
>> Yes. The studies
involving millions
777
00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:44,533
of children have
shown no connection
778
00:41:44,533 --> 00:41:46,267
between vaccines and autism.
779
00:41:46,267 --> 00:41:49,133
>> Stick to the schedule.
780
00:41:49,133 --> 00:41:52,167
>> The CDC's own vaccine
schedule, which we are required
781
00:41:52,167 --> 00:41:55,167
to adhere to as parents
in America recommends
782
00:41:55,167 --> 00:41:59,433
that our children get the
MMR between 12 and 18 months.
783
00:41:59,433 --> 00:42:01,967
But in this hidden
data, provided to us
784
00:42:01,967 --> 00:42:06,167
by William Thompson, it is clear
that for African Americans,
785
00:42:06,167 --> 00:42:08,367
this is actually the
most dangerous time
786
00:42:08,367 --> 00:42:09,900
to deliver the MMR.
787
00:42:09,900 --> 00:42:12,567
>> The CDC in my
opinion is one of the-
788
00:42:12,567 --> 00:42:14,300
where I go to if
I need information
789
00:42:14,300 --> 00:42:15,433
about an infectious disease.
790
00:42:15,433 --> 00:42:18,067
I probably either
go on their website,
791
00:42:18,067 --> 00:42:21,567
or open one of the
reference books every day.
792
00:42:21,567 --> 00:42:24,333
That building is filled
with a lot of scientists
793
00:42:24,333 --> 00:42:26,067
that are smarter than me.
794
00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:39,100
>> The analysis plan is one
of the most important parts
795
00:42:39,100 --> 00:42:40,833
of the scientific study.
796
00:42:40,833 --> 00:42:44,567
It's the laws or the rules by
which the scientist will adhere
797
00:42:44,567 --> 00:42:46,733
to while doing the study.
798
00:42:46,733 --> 00:42:49,133
And this analysis
plan is put together
799
00:42:49,133 --> 00:42:50,467
by the scientists themselves.
800
00:42:50,467 --> 00:42:52,533
Sometimes their superior's
way in.
801
00:42:52,533 --> 00:42:56,133
But once they've locked
that analysis plan.
802
00:42:56,133 --> 00:42:59,167
They said this is how we
are going to use the data.
803
00:42:59,167 --> 00:43:02,600
And you can't deviate
from that analysis plan,
804
00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:04,333
or you're at risk for fraud.
805
00:43:04,333 --> 00:43:05,733
Scientific fraud.
806
00:43:05,733 --> 00:43:08,200
Did they deviate from
the analysis plan
807
00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:10,967
after seeing something
they didn't like?
808
00:43:10,967 --> 00:43:14,267
If they did, we have
a real problem.
809
00:43:14,267 --> 00:43:17,833
>> Thompson not only
played a major role
810
00:43:17,833 --> 00:43:21,933
in developing the analysis
plan, he was the numbers guy.
811
00:43:21,933 --> 00:43:24,967
He was responsible for
collecting the data,
812
00:43:24,967 --> 00:43:27,800
analyzing the data, and
presenting the results,
813
00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:31,600
and by November 2001,
the results were in.
814
00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:35,467
>> Now with the MMR
autism one, the-
815
00:43:35,467 --> 00:43:41,333
we had an analysis plan that
we were supposed to execute,
816
00:43:41,333 --> 00:43:44,100
and it was written,
and you know,
817
00:43:44,100 --> 00:43:47,633
I'm going to be sharing
these draft analysis plans
818
00:43:47,633 --> 00:43:48,967
that we had.
819
00:43:48,967 --> 00:43:51,733
And you can see whether we
did what we were going to do.
820
00:43:51,733 --> 00:43:54,567
>> That analysis plan
had been agreed upon,
821
00:43:54,567 --> 00:43:58,533
not only by the co-authors,
but also by CDC superiors.
822
00:43:58,533 --> 00:44:01,133
>> In order to conceal the
effect of the MMR, what they had
823
00:44:01,133 --> 00:44:05,167
to do was reduce the number of
children in the study in order
824
00:44:05,167 --> 00:44:09,533
to reduce what is referred
to as the statistical power.
825
00:44:09,533 --> 00:44:13,433
That is, the ability of the
study to detect a difference
826
00:44:13,433 --> 00:44:15,233
if one genuinely exists.
827
00:44:15,233 --> 00:44:17,267
In the analysis plan,
they had agreed
828
00:44:17,267 --> 00:44:19,533
to use two sources
of information.
829
00:44:19,533 --> 00:44:21,600
The first was the
children's school records,
830
00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:23,733
and the second was the
children's Georgia birth
831
00:44:23,733 --> 00:44:25,067
certificate records.
832
00:44:25,067 --> 00:44:27,700
So while every child in the
study had a school record,
833
00:44:27,700 --> 00:44:28,967
only half of the children
834
00:44:28,967 --> 00:44:30,633
in the study had a Georgia
birth certificate record,
835
00:44:30,633 --> 00:44:33,733
because the other half had
been born in other states.
836
00:44:33,733 --> 00:44:35,767
So the analysis plan
was explicit.
837
00:44:35,767 --> 00:44:38,067
Information on a
child's race was to come
838
00:44:38,067 --> 00:44:39,933
from their school record.
839
00:44:39,933 --> 00:44:43,600
But when confronted by data
that revealed an increased risk
840
00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:46,533
of autism in African American
children, they deviated
841
00:44:46,533 --> 00:44:48,200
from their analysis plan.
842
00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:51,700
They chose to get the race data
not from the school record,
843
00:44:51,700 --> 00:44:53,900
but from the Georgia
birth certificate record.
844
00:44:53,900 --> 00:44:57,067
>> Instead of having 3,000
individuals in the study,
845
00:44:57,067 --> 00:45:00,133
it went down to about 1,800.
846
00:45:00,133 --> 00:45:05,067
The relative risk went
down from 2.64 to 1.8,
847
00:45:05,067 --> 00:45:06,867
but more importantly,
848
00:45:06,867 --> 00:45:10,567
that relative risk was no longer
statistically significant.
849
00:45:10,567 --> 00:45:13,333
>> And I'll ask you to step
forward to receive your prize
850
00:45:13,333 --> 00:45:15,500
from the hands of His
Majesty, the King.
851
00:45:15,500 --> 00:45:21,067
[ Music and Applause ]
852
00:45:21,067 --> 00:45:23,567
>> I am Luc Montangier, M.D.
853
00:46:25,067 --> 00:46:27,700
>> Shortly after Julie
Gerberding became head
854
00:46:27,700 --> 00:46:28,833
of the CDC,
855
00:46:28,833 --> 00:46:31,133
I began to communicate with her
856
00:46:31,133 --> 00:46:33,233
and ask her to come
to my office.
857
00:46:33,233 --> 00:46:37,433
There didn't seem to be
objective research going on.
858
00:46:37,433 --> 00:46:42,767
There was the CDC trying
to promote vaccination
859
00:46:42,767 --> 00:46:45,833
for children, and then
they were doing the safety
860
00:46:45,833 --> 00:46:47,300
research themselves.
861
00:46:47,300 --> 00:46:50,533
>> In CDC's judgment,
the best public policy is
862
00:46:50,533 --> 00:46:53,500
to continue vaccination
unchanged,
863
00:46:53,500 --> 00:46:57,133
while aggressively working
to try to identify causes
864
00:46:57,133 --> 00:46:59,233
of developmental disabilities.
865
00:46:59,233 --> 00:47:03,100
>> The CDC, I just thought,
was institutionally conflicted.
866
00:47:03,100 --> 00:47:05,467
>> The CDC can't take
money directly from pharma,
867
00:47:05,467 --> 00:47:07,100
but they can set
up a foundation,
868
00:47:07,100 --> 00:47:09,833
and the foundation
can attract donations
869
00:47:09,833 --> 00:47:11,867
from commercial interests,
and does.
870
00:47:11,867 --> 00:47:15,633
Merck, Glaxo-Smith-Kline,
now Pfizer, Sanofi Aventis,
871
00:47:15,633 --> 00:47:19,400
have huge, multi-billion
dollar vaccine businesses.
872
00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:20,800
They're profitable.
873
00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:24,500
They promote them because some
of these new high-tech vaccines,
874
00:47:24,500 --> 00:47:28,067
that are patented, that are
high priced, get protected
875
00:47:28,067 --> 00:47:31,800
by this little cocoon of
regulatory capture in HHS.
876
00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:36,933
And are guaranteed
multi-billion dollar franchises.
877
00:47:36,933 --> 00:47:40,333
>> When I was working at Merck,
I was a sales rep for Vioxx.
878
00:47:40,333 --> 00:47:42,800
The whole scandal started
when it was discovered
879
00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:46,700
that Merck had manipulated
data and covered up the fact
880
00:47:46,700 --> 00:47:49,767
that Vioxx actually caused twice
the amount of heart attacks
881
00:47:49,767 --> 00:47:51,733
and strokes than the placebo.
882
00:47:51,733 --> 00:47:53,767
What I learned from
that experience,
883
00:47:53,767 --> 00:47:54,867
just because things are
884
00:47:54,867 --> 00:47:58,067
on the market does not
mean they are safe.
885
00:47:58,067 --> 00:48:00,600
[ Cheering ]
886
00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:03,067
I think we get into a
very dangerous territory
887
00:48:03,067 --> 00:48:04,433
with vaccinations.
888
00:48:04,433 --> 00:48:07,600
If a drug company gets just one
vaccine added to the schedule,
889
00:48:07,600 --> 00:48:11,400
they can make upwards of
$30 billion in one year.
890
00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:12,800
>> It's no secret.
891
00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:14,967
I think they've published their
intention, which is they want
892
00:48:14,967 --> 00:48:17,200
to create an environment
893
00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:20,367
of constant vaccination
from cradle to grave.
894
00:48:20,367 --> 00:48:23,667
They want infant vaccines
they expanded flu shots,
895
00:48:23,667 --> 00:48:28,233
DTAP boosters, Gardasil
shots, meningococcal shots,
896
00:48:28,233 --> 00:48:31,567
they want adult vaccines, you
know, they want you and me
897
00:48:31,567 --> 00:48:35,200
to come in and get a
constant barrage of shots,
898
00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:37,567
and then they want
vaccines for the elderly.
899
00:48:37,567 --> 00:48:40,067
>> We have highly
profitable product,
900
00:48:40,067 --> 00:48:42,733
because the safety
testing isn't as rigorous
901
00:48:42,733 --> 00:48:44,500
as a normal pharmaceutical drug.
902
00:48:44,500 --> 00:48:46,400
The gold standard
is double blind,
903
00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:49,133
placebo-based long-term study.
904
00:48:49,133 --> 00:48:52,900
And that just isn't
done with vaccines,
905
00:48:52,900 --> 00:48:55,133
because they're classified
in a different way
906
00:48:55,133 --> 00:48:57,933
as a public health measure,
and they haven't been tested
907
00:48:57,933 --> 00:49:01,867
in combination with other
vaccines, yet doctors give six
908
00:49:01,867 --> 00:49:04,100
to nine doses per visit.
909
00:49:04,100 --> 00:49:05,233
It's insane.
910
00:49:05,233 --> 00:49:08,600
If a pharmaceutical drug
was tested like this,
911
00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:09,933
it wouldn't be on the market.
912
00:49:09,933 --> 00:49:11,367
But because it's a vaccine,
913
00:49:11,367 --> 00:49:14,933
and the safety testing
is less rigorous,
914
00:49:14,933 --> 00:49:17,200
our children are
being experimented on.
915
00:49:17,200 --> 00:49:18,767
>> I don't like to
look at autism
916
00:49:18,767 --> 00:49:20,233
from a behavioral perspective.
917
00:49:20,233 --> 00:49:24,067
I look at it more from what
causes it in each child.
918
00:49:24,067 --> 00:49:28,067
When I want to define autism, I
have to say it's the inability
919
00:49:28,067 --> 00:49:30,167
to detoxify the way
you're supposed to,
920
00:49:30,167 --> 00:49:33,067
at the rate you're supposed
to, and it all has to do
921
00:49:33,067 --> 00:49:34,733
with this toxic overload.
922
00:49:34,733 --> 00:49:37,133
These children are
not detoxifying
923
00:49:37,133 --> 00:49:38,600
from the vaccinations.
924
00:49:38,600 --> 00:49:43,133
Same thing with GMO products,
the pesticides in our food.
925
00:49:43,133 --> 00:49:47,333
If I can prevent the child from
being exposed to more toxins,
926
00:49:47,333 --> 00:49:49,800
then when I'm teaching
the child,
927
00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:51,533
at least the child
is getting better,
928
00:49:51,533 --> 00:49:54,200
and not continuously
getting worse.
929
00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:55,333
>> Without a doubt,
what's happened
930
00:49:55,333 --> 00:49:57,067
to Billy has changed his life.
931
00:50:01,033 --> 00:50:01,967
>> I did it!
932
00:50:01,967 --> 00:50:03,433
>> There you go,
you got a strike!
933
00:50:03,433 --> 00:50:06,667
>> What I have on my hands
now a 19-year-old man,
934
00:50:06,667 --> 00:50:09,700
he's 6 foot 2, he is volatile.
935
00:50:09,700 --> 00:50:12,967
On good days, Billy is
as brilliant as an angel.
936
00:50:12,967 --> 00:50:15,867
On bad days the slightest thing
can trigger him, and he's scary.
937
00:50:15,867 --> 00:50:19,167
>> I'm going to go downstairs
and get daddy right now.
938
00:50:19,167 --> 00:50:20,500
>> No, you need to
stay up here, okay?
939
00:50:20,500 --> 00:50:23,633
>> I'm going to kill
daddy right now!
940
00:50:23,633 --> 00:50:24,967
>> Bill, listen to me.
941
00:50:24,967 --> 00:50:28,100
I'm going to stay up here,
we're going to calm down okay?
942
00:50:28,100 --> 00:50:29,367
[Laughter]
943
00:50:29,367 --> 00:50:30,933
>> The reason they become
aggressive, and dangerous
944
00:50:30,933 --> 00:50:35,833
in some cases, is because they
have no ability to communicate.
945
00:50:35,833 --> 00:50:41,600
>> Because mummy asked Kent,
but Kent bring the sweet corn,
946
00:50:41,600 --> 00:50:44,433
then bring in the chickens here.
947
00:50:44,433 --> 00:50:46,267
Here, this is your fault, mummy.
948
00:50:46,267 --> 00:50:49,433
>> If you're not able to
express your needs, your wants,
949
00:50:49,433 --> 00:50:52,800
your desires, your happiness
and sadness and so on,
950
00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:54,000
you would become aggressive.
951
00:50:54,000 --> 00:50:58,033
That's often when we see
the worst part of autism.
952
00:51:04,333 --> 00:51:07,500
>> We have to occupy his room
and use his video player,
953
00:51:07,500 --> 00:51:10,967
and of course, that is a
massive intrusion in his space,
954
00:51:10,967 --> 00:51:14,067
and he got very upset.
955
00:51:14,067 --> 00:51:17,433
>> Where else in this
house can we play a video?
956
00:51:17,433 --> 00:51:22,400
Remember? Listen, Bill
reduce the stress level.
957
00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:23,833
>> No! Don't hurt Daddy.
958
00:51:23,833 --> 00:51:26,367
Out there, there's millions
of me's, there's millions
959
00:51:26,367 --> 00:51:29,133
of Polly Tommey's with
vaccine damaged children.
960
00:51:29,133 --> 00:51:32,500
I'm telling you this,
because I do not want you
961
00:51:32,500 --> 00:51:34,233
to live the life that I've led.
962
00:51:34,233 --> 00:51:36,100
I don't want you to
go through the pain.
963
00:51:36,100 --> 00:51:38,900
I do not want to see you
suffer, or your family suffer.
964
00:51:38,900 --> 00:51:40,067
That is why I'm telling you.
965
00:51:40,067 --> 00:51:41,900
I've no other reason
to tell you about it.
966
00:51:41,900 --> 00:51:44,900
It's not my concern, my
kid's already damaged.
967
00:51:53,133 --> 00:51:55,567
>> I am a senior research
scientist here at MIT,
968
00:51:55,567 --> 00:51:56,633
in the computer science
969
00:51:56,633 --> 00:51:58,733
and artificial intelligence
laboratory.
970
00:51:58,733 --> 00:52:01,900
I have a Bachelor's
degree in biology from MIT,
971
00:52:01,900 --> 00:52:05,367
and I have MSEE and PhD
degrees, also from MIT
972
00:52:05,367 --> 00:52:08,467
in electrical engineering
and computer science.
973
00:52:08,467 --> 00:52:11,067
I became interested in
autism a long time ago
974
00:52:11,067 --> 00:52:14,133
when my best friend at the time
had a son who was diagnosed
975
00:52:14,133 --> 00:52:17,600
with autism following
a DPT shot.
976
00:52:17,600 --> 00:52:20,467
He had a high fever after the
shot, seizures a week later,
977
00:52:20,467 --> 00:52:23,267
and was later diagnosed
with autism.
978
00:52:23,267 --> 00:52:25,967
>> We have to accept the
fact that autism is new.
979
00:52:25,967 --> 00:52:29,067
That before 1930,
the rate of autism
980
00:52:29,067 --> 00:52:31,133
in the world was
effectively zero.
981
00:52:31,133 --> 00:52:34,167
And then for a long
time it was 1 in 10,000.
982
00:52:34,167 --> 00:52:37,067
>> I got interested in
studying autism eight years ago
983
00:52:37,067 --> 00:52:39,900
when I saw the numbers go
up, and I was quite alarmed,
984
00:52:39,900 --> 00:52:42,933
because I could see that the
trend was exponential growth.
985
00:52:42,933 --> 00:52:45,433
And exponential growth
is extremely scary.
986
00:52:45,433 --> 00:52:49,133
>> Since really the
mid- to late 80s,
987
00:52:49,133 --> 00:52:51,367
we've gone from this
low-prevalence environment
988
00:52:51,367 --> 00:52:55,600
to a rate of increase where
the trend is still vertical.
989
00:52:55,600 --> 00:52:58,300
We have not seen a
flattening in trend.
990
00:52:58,300 --> 00:53:00,533
>> Every couple of years,
the CDC provides a number
991
00:53:00,533 --> 00:53:03,633
of what percentage of kids
are diagnosed with autism.
992
00:53:03,633 --> 00:53:06,433
And you've got the dots going
all the way back to 1975.
993
00:53:06,433 --> 00:53:10,067
You draw the line, it is a
perfect exponential curve.
994
00:53:10,067 --> 00:53:14,067
If we assume that things are
going to continue as they have,
995
00:53:14,067 --> 00:53:17,633
for the past 30 years, into
the future, we can predict
996
00:53:17,633 --> 00:53:22,300
that by 2032, 80% of
the boys born will end
997
00:53:22,300 --> 00:53:24,367
up on the autism spectrum.
998
00:53:24,367 --> 00:53:26,500
Half the children,
80% of the boys.
999
00:53:26,500 --> 00:53:35,567
[ Music ]
1000
00:53:47,067 --> 00:53:49,067
>> If you think the
vaccine is only a problem
1001
00:53:49,067 --> 00:53:52,067
for African American kids
like me, you're wrong.
1002
00:53:52,067 --> 00:53:54,233
>> There's an even
bigger problem.
1003
00:53:54,233 --> 00:53:58,933
One that puts all kids at risk,
and it's called isolated autism.
1004
00:54:06,433 --> 00:54:08,867
>> When the CDC researchers
set out to do this study,
1005
00:54:08,867 --> 00:54:10,900
they asked themselves
the question
1006
00:54:10,900 --> 00:54:13,700
if early MMR vaccine
causes autism,
1007
00:54:13,700 --> 00:54:18,733
in which children would we be
most likely to find this effect?
1008
00:54:18,733 --> 00:54:23,533
Their answer is children with
no developmental concerns
1009
00:54:23,533 --> 00:54:24,767
for the first year of life.
1010
00:54:24,767 --> 00:54:27,133
Children who were
perfectly healthy
1011
00:54:27,133 --> 00:54:31,133
until they received
their MMR vaccine.
1012
00:54:31,133 --> 00:54:34,067
They called this
group isolated autism.
1013
00:54:34,067 --> 00:54:39,233
Now, this does not refer to
an isolated cause of autism,
1014
00:54:39,233 --> 00:54:41,433
or an isolated group
with autism.
1015
00:54:41,433 --> 00:54:43,733
They isolated autism out,
1016
00:54:43,733 --> 00:54:48,433
so children who had no
co-morbid conditions apart
1017
00:54:48,433 --> 00:54:50,167
from their autism.
1018
00:54:50,167 --> 00:54:52,633
No cerebral palsy.
1019
00:54:52,633 --> 00:54:54,233
No mental retardation.
1020
00:54:54,233 --> 00:54:55,967
No visual or hearing impairment.
1021
00:54:55,967 --> 00:55:00,567
No epilepsy, and
no birth defects.
1022
00:55:00,567 --> 00:55:04,333
This risk group includes
essentially every healthy child
1023
00:55:04,333 --> 00:55:05,800
in the world.
1024
00:55:07,067 --> 00:55:09,467
>> I'm a single father.
1025
00:55:09,467 --> 00:55:14,533
Raising a 15-year-old
severely autistic,
1026
00:55:14,533 --> 00:55:17,700
non-verbal teenaged daughter.
1027
00:55:17,700 --> 00:55:20,533
When she was 15 months old, she
received a round of vaccines
1028
00:55:20,533 --> 00:55:23,867
which included the MMR and DTAP.
1029
00:55:23,867 --> 00:55:25,367
She developed a high fever,
1030
00:55:25,367 --> 00:55:28,533
the fever broke,
she lost everything.
1031
00:55:28,533 --> 00:55:30,400
>> My daughter was six
weeks old when I took her
1032
00:55:30,400 --> 00:55:32,267
in for her vaccination.
1033
00:55:32,267 --> 00:55:35,600
Two hours later, she had a five
minute seizure, and two hours
1034
00:55:35,600 --> 00:55:38,067
after that, she had
another five minute seizure.
1035
00:55:38,067 --> 00:55:39,300
Mama's here.
1036
00:55:39,300 --> 00:55:40,933
Come on. Come on.
1037
00:55:40,933 --> 00:55:42,067
Come on, you're okay.
1038
00:55:42,067 --> 00:55:42,967
You're okay.
1039
00:55:42,967 --> 00:55:44,133
Come on baby.
1040
00:55:44,133 --> 00:55:45,933
Come on babe, you can do it.
1041
00:55:45,933 --> 00:55:46,500
Come on babe.
1042
00:55:46,500 --> 00:55:47,967
Come on out.
1043
00:55:47,967 --> 00:55:50,067
Come on. Come on baby.
1044
00:55:50,067 --> 00:55:51,667
Come on, keep breathing.
1045
00:55:51,667 --> 00:55:54,200
Come on, come on...The
vaccination gave her severe
1046
00:55:54,200 --> 00:55:56,833
brain damage, and she had
seizures every day for the rest
1047
00:55:56,833 --> 00:56:00,133
of her life until she died
in my arms at the age of 15.
1048
00:56:00,133 --> 00:56:03,100
>> There is no good reason to
choose not to get a vaccine.
1049
00:56:03,100 --> 00:56:06,767
>> He got his MMR,
and he got his DTP,
1050
00:56:06,767 --> 00:56:08,900
and within days,
he stopped talking.
1051
00:56:08,900 --> 00:56:11,067
>> Projectile vomiting,
convulsions.
1052
00:56:11,067 --> 00:56:12,500
>> He went blind
in his left eye.
1053
00:56:12,500 --> 00:56:18,267
>> Vaccines took our healthy,
happy baby and made him unwell.
1054
00:56:18,267 --> 00:56:20,067
>> She lost all acquired speech.
1055
00:56:20,067 --> 00:56:22,733
>> He lost his speech,
he lost his eye contact,
1056
00:56:22,733 --> 00:56:24,200
like the flick of a switch.
1057
00:56:24,200 --> 00:56:25,800
>> If vaccines were unsafe,
1058
00:56:25,800 --> 00:56:27,400
I think this would
be an interesting
1059
00:56:27,400 --> 00:56:28,600
and reasonable discussion.
1060
00:56:28,600 --> 00:56:31,400
>> Obviously some minority
get hurt by this stuff.
1061
00:56:31,400 --> 00:56:34,100
I don't understand why
this is controversial.
1062
00:56:34,100 --> 00:56:35,533
>> Vaccines are safe.
1063
00:56:35,533 --> 00:56:36,833
Get vaccinated.
1064
00:56:36,833 --> 00:56:38,233
>> It's like, you know what?
1065
00:56:38,233 --> 00:56:41,933
Shut the fuck up and let me take
every vaccine that Merck wants
1066
00:56:41,933 --> 00:56:43,167
to shove down my throat.
1067
00:56:43,167 --> 00:56:45,767
>> Autism is not a
side effect of vaccine,
1068
00:56:45,767 --> 00:56:46,867
or to say it another way,
1069
00:56:46,867 --> 00:56:49,233
because some people
don't hear this well,
1070
00:56:49,233 --> 00:56:51,833
vaccines do not cause autism.
1071
00:56:51,833 --> 00:56:52,967
>> Hear this well.
1072
00:56:52,967 --> 00:56:54,067
>> Hear this well.
1073
00:56:54,067 --> 00:56:54,900
>> Please hear this well.
1074
00:56:54,900 --> 00:56:55,933
>> Here this well.
1075
00:56:55,933 --> 00:56:58,867
>> Vaccines can and
do cause autism.
1076
00:56:58,867 --> 00:57:00,200
>> My granddaughter Lilly...
1077
00:57:00,200 --> 00:57:01,067
>> My daughter...
1078
00:57:01,067 --> 00:57:02,600
>> My son was fully vaccinated.
1079
00:57:02,600 --> 00:57:03,767
>> My son, Jackson.
1080
00:57:03,767 --> 00:57:06,067
>> I had a healthy,
typically developing boy.
1081
00:57:06,067 --> 00:57:08,067
>> Please, hear this well.
1082
00:57:08,067 --> 00:57:09,800
>> Vaccines cause autism.
1083
00:57:09,800 --> 00:57:13,633
>> One day, everyone will
know the truth about vaccines.
1084
00:57:13,633 --> 00:57:15,900
Hear this well.
1085
00:57:20,333 --> 00:57:23,267
>> I honestly think the most
interesting results are the
1086
00:57:23,267 --> 00:57:25,533
elevated ones, for the isolated,
1087
00:57:25,533 --> 00:57:28,733
ones that don't have other
co-morbid conditions.
1088
00:57:28,733 --> 00:57:31,633
The effect is where you
think it would happen.
1089
00:57:31,633 --> 00:57:36,367
>> In isolated autism, he saw
a very, very strong effect,
1090
00:57:36,367 --> 00:57:39,567
specific to those kids
that got the MMR on time.
1091
00:57:39,567 --> 00:57:42,833
When Bill Thompson
ran those numbers,
1092
00:57:42,833 --> 00:57:45,167
he saw an astronomical effect.
1093
00:57:45,167 --> 00:57:46,933
Some of the numbers
were actually--
1094
00:57:46,933 --> 00:57:52,567
the relative risks were as
high as 7 or 8 times higher
1095
00:57:52,567 --> 00:57:55,067
with these kids that
were diagnosed
1096
00:57:55,067 --> 00:57:59,167
with just isolated
autism, no other diagnosis,
1097
00:57:59,167 --> 00:58:01,133
versus those controls.
1098
00:58:01,133 --> 00:58:05,567
>> Isolated autism is confusing,
because it sounds small,
1099
00:58:05,567 --> 00:58:07,733
but it really is a big problem.
1100
00:58:07,733 --> 00:58:12,633
Because all healthy children no
matter what race, are at risk.
1101
00:58:12,633 --> 00:58:16,567
For example, my sister is 18
months old, and she is supposed
1102
00:58:16,567 --> 00:58:18,833
to get her MMR shot right now.
1103
00:58:18,833 --> 00:58:23,067
But if she does, she is seven
times more likely to get autism
1104
00:58:23,067 --> 00:58:27,767
than if my parents wait
until after 3 years old.
1105
00:58:27,767 --> 00:58:31,133
So I hope my parents
don't do it.
1106
00:58:31,133 --> 00:58:33,667
>> Here's what's really scary.
1107
00:58:33,667 --> 00:58:36,200
When we look at isolated
autism, we see that there is
1108
00:58:36,200 --> 00:58:40,533
up to a seven-fold increase
in the incidence of autism
1109
00:58:40,533 --> 00:58:43,200
between those that receive
the vaccine between 12
1110
00:58:43,200 --> 00:58:46,533
and 18 months, versus those
that got it after 3 years old.
1111
00:58:46,533 --> 00:58:48,367
But let's be perfectly clear.
1112
00:58:48,367 --> 00:58:53,100
Every child in the study had
received the MMR vaccine.
1113
00:58:53,100 --> 00:58:56,267
What would the numbers be
if you compared children
1114
00:58:56,267 --> 00:58:59,700
who got the vaccine between 12
and 18 months versus children
1115
00:58:59,700 --> 00:59:02,633
that never got the
vaccine at all.
1116
00:59:02,633 --> 00:59:06,933
This is often referred to
as the vax vs. unvax study.
1117
00:59:06,933 --> 00:59:10,267
CDC refuses to do this study.
1118
00:59:10,267 --> 00:59:13,067
Even though every drug
that we take has been
1119
00:59:13,067 --> 00:59:14,667
through this exact study.
1120
00:59:14,667 --> 00:59:17,467
There is a group who take the
drug, then they compare it
1121
00:59:17,467 --> 00:59:19,100
with a group who do
not take the drug,
1122
00:59:19,100 --> 00:59:21,933
and they see there are more
side effects and complications
1123
00:59:21,933 --> 00:59:24,100
with the group that
takes the drug.
1124
00:59:24,100 --> 00:59:28,067
So why does the CDC refuse to
do the vax vs. unvax study?
1125
00:59:28,067 --> 00:59:32,667
Probably because when we look
at the results of this study,
1126
00:59:32,667 --> 00:59:36,700
we realize that the risk would
be astronomical, and is likely
1127
00:59:36,700 --> 00:59:40,133
to be one of the major reasons
we're seeing this skyrocketing
1128
00:59:40,133 --> 00:59:43,767
increase of autism, worldwide.
1129
00:59:46,467 --> 00:59:50,233
>> Just like the African
American children,
1130
00:59:50,233 --> 00:59:54,700
they went into the room, and
they sliced and diced the data,
1131
00:59:54,700 --> 00:59:56,667
in an effort to get
rid of that effect.
1132
00:59:56,667 --> 01:00:00,133
This is Coleen Boyle's
meeting notes, how they planned
1133
01:00:00,133 --> 01:00:03,367
to present the data by these
age groups, that after the fact,
1134
01:00:03,367 --> 01:00:05,733
when the data she
writes reformats.
1135
01:00:05,733 --> 01:00:09,967
And then she puts
in new age groups.
1136
01:00:09,967 --> 01:00:14,867
Even this failed to
achieve the desired effect,
1137
01:00:14,867 --> 01:00:17,767
since in the end, they simply
omitted the relevant findings
1138
01:00:17,767 --> 01:00:20,033
from the paper altogether.
1139
01:00:20,033 --> 01:00:22,633
>> I was just looking at
that, I'm like, oh my god,
1140
01:00:22,633 --> 01:00:26,667
I cannot believe
we did what we did.
1141
01:00:26,667 --> 01:00:28,500
But we did.
1142
01:00:28,500 --> 01:00:29,200
>> Yeah.
1143
01:00:29,200 --> 01:00:30,733
>> So it's all there.
1144
01:00:30,733 --> 01:00:32,133
It's all there.
1145
01:00:32,133 --> 01:00:35,200
>> And you in the health field,
you who run our health agencies
1146
01:00:35,200 --> 01:00:39,800
in this country are sitting here
today, you have an obligation
1147
01:00:39,800 --> 01:00:42,767
to these kids that you just
saw there, to make sure
1148
01:00:42,767 --> 01:00:46,233
that these studies are
complete, thorough,
1149
01:00:46,233 --> 01:00:49,600
so that everybody knows
that we have all the facts,
1150
01:00:49,600 --> 01:00:51,233
and you don't have that.
1151
01:00:51,233 --> 01:00:53,167
>> One of the things
we did because this was
1152
01:00:53,167 --> 01:00:57,167
such an important topic was
to have them be sworn in.
1153
01:00:57,167 --> 01:00:58,867
So they were under oath.
1154
01:00:58,867 --> 01:01:02,467
And if they were doctoring
the results of a study,
1155
01:01:02,467 --> 01:01:06,200
and they did it deliberately,
they committed a felony.
1156
01:01:06,200 --> 01:01:08,633
>> It used to be 1 in 10,000.
1157
01:01:08,633 --> 01:01:14,067
And now it's 1 in more than
250 kids that are being damaged
1158
01:01:14,067 --> 01:01:16,667
in this country,
that are autistic.
1159
01:01:17,667 --> 01:01:19,533
Now those kids are
going to grow up.
1160
01:01:19,533 --> 01:01:21,367
They aren't going to die.
1161
01:01:21,367 --> 01:01:23,067
It's not like a lot of diseases
1162
01:01:23,067 --> 01:01:25,700
where they get infected,
and they drop dead.
1163
01:01:25,700 --> 01:01:28,267
They're going to live
to be 50, 60 years old.
1164
01:01:28,267 --> 01:01:31,367
Now, who do you think is
going to take care of them?
1165
01:01:32,400 --> 01:01:33,767
It's going to be us.
1166
01:01:33,767 --> 01:01:34,333
All of us.
1167
01:01:34,333 --> 01:01:35,300
The taxpayers.
1168
01:01:35,300 --> 01:01:36,733
And it's going to cost, I think
1169
01:01:36,733 --> 01:01:41,133
as you said Ms. Maloney,
trillions of dollars.
1170
01:01:41,133 --> 01:01:43,667
So we can't let the
pharmaceutical companies
1171
01:01:43,667 --> 01:01:46,933
and our government cover
this mess up today,
1172
01:01:46,933 --> 01:01:50,167
because it ain't
going to go away.
1173
01:01:50,167 --> 01:01:53,667
And it's going to cost the
taxpayers trillions more
1174
01:01:53,667 --> 01:01:55,467
if we wait around on it.
1175
01:01:55,467 --> 01:01:59,433
And or our FDA and HHS and the
health agencies to continue
1176
01:01:59,433 --> 01:02:02,600
to hide behind this façade
that there have been studies
1177
01:02:02,600 --> 01:02:06,800
that conclusively prove
otherwise, it's just wrong too.
1178
01:02:06,800 --> 01:02:09,767
>> So the CDC wasn't just doing
the study inside of a bubble.
1179
01:02:09,767 --> 01:02:11,833
In fact, it was the
exact opposite.
1180
01:02:11,833 --> 01:02:13,233
They were under fire.
1181
01:02:13,233 --> 01:02:15,167
You had Congressman
Dan Burton in front
1182
01:02:15,167 --> 01:02:18,300
of the Congress demanding
answers about mercury
1183
01:02:18,300 --> 01:02:20,933
and the MMR, and
vaccine studies,
1184
01:02:20,933 --> 01:02:22,633
and the connection to autism.
1185
01:02:22,633 --> 01:02:24,867
Dave Weldon, Congressman
from Florida,
1186
01:02:24,867 --> 01:02:26,367
is reaching out to
Julie Gerberding
1187
01:02:26,367 --> 01:02:27,600
with serious complaints
1188
01:02:27,600 --> 01:02:30,433
on how he thinks this entire
issue has been handled.
1189
01:02:30,433 --> 01:02:34,133
On top of that, the Department
of Justice is requesting files
1190
01:02:34,133 --> 01:02:37,433
and data from the CBC because
of a previous study called the
1191
01:02:37,433 --> 01:02:40,467
Verstraeton study, that
had so may anomalies,
1192
01:02:40,467 --> 01:02:42,900
it looked like scientific
fraud was taking place.
1193
01:02:42,900 --> 01:02:44,467
So they were suspicious.
1194
01:02:44,467 --> 01:02:48,400
So then you look at the emails
that Thompson provided to us,
1195
01:02:48,400 --> 01:02:51,533
and you see that he is reaching
out to his line manager,
1196
01:02:51,533 --> 01:02:56,100
Dr. Melinda Wharton, throwing up
red flags, saying "I first spoke
1197
01:02:56,100 --> 01:02:59,733
with you in September of 2002
regarding the sensitive results
1198
01:02:59,733 --> 01:03:03,800
we have been struggling with
in the MMR autism study."
1199
01:03:03,800 --> 01:03:07,300
How do you struggle
with scientific results?
1200
01:03:07,300 --> 01:03:09,100
I mean, facts are facts.
1201
01:03:09,100 --> 01:03:11,500
Data are data.
1202
01:03:11,500 --> 01:03:12,800
That doesn't make any sense.
1203
01:03:12,800 --> 01:03:15,533
So you've got Dan Burton
breathing down their necks.
1204
01:03:15,533 --> 01:03:18,333
The Department of Justice
is requesting files,
1205
01:03:18,333 --> 01:03:22,833
and William Thompson finds out
that Coleen Boyle has brought
1206
01:03:22,833 --> 01:03:27,433
in a lawyer to help her decide
what materials are too sensitive
1207
01:03:27,433 --> 01:03:29,900
to provide to the
Department of Justice.
1208
01:03:29,900 --> 01:03:33,533
This obviously freaks William
Thompson out, because later
1209
01:03:33,533 --> 01:03:35,933
in the email to Wharton, he says
1210
01:03:35,933 --> 01:03:39,067
"I will be hiring my
own personal attorney."
1211
01:03:39,067 --> 01:03:41,633
And it's extremely unfortunate
that we need to be concerned
1212
01:03:41,633 --> 01:03:45,333
that our own legal rights are
covered when participating
1213
01:03:45,333 --> 01:03:46,900
in a study such as this.
1214
01:03:46,900 --> 01:03:49,433
I mean, what's going on here?
1215
01:03:49,433 --> 01:03:53,467
We have government
scientists, lawyering up,
1216
01:03:53,467 --> 01:03:56,233
over a children's safety study.
1217
01:03:56,233 --> 01:04:00,067
Clearly this does not sit
well at all with Dr. Thompson.
1218
01:04:00,067 --> 01:04:01,633
Because at the end
of this email,
1219
01:04:01,633 --> 01:04:04,867
he makes what looks
to be a clear threat.
1220
01:04:04,867 --> 01:04:07,133
"My level of concern
has also caused me
1221
01:04:07,133 --> 01:04:10,467
to seriously consider
removing myself as an author
1222
01:04:10,467 --> 01:04:12,300
on the draft manuscript."
1223
01:04:12,300 --> 01:04:14,600
So then a few days later,
Thompson writes directly
1224
01:04:14,600 --> 01:04:17,433
to Dr. Walter Orenstein, head
1225
01:04:17,433 --> 01:04:19,933
of The National Immunization
Program,
1226
01:04:19,933 --> 01:04:23,867
saying "I am not interested in
taking all of the political heat
1227
01:04:23,867 --> 01:04:26,800
that will go along
with that study."
1228
01:04:26,800 --> 01:04:31,433
Thompson has gone all the way
to the top of his department.
1229
01:04:31,433 --> 01:04:36,300
I mean, we don't ever get a
response from Walter Orenstein,
1230
01:04:36,300 --> 01:04:40,700
but Thompson is very clear
on what happened next.
1231
01:04:44,067 --> 01:04:47,300
>> The higher ups wanted
to do certain things,
1232
01:04:47,300 --> 01:04:48,767
and I went along with it.
1233
01:04:48,767 --> 01:04:53,067
In terms of chain of command,
I was number four out of five.
1234
01:04:53,067 --> 01:04:56,067
>> Dr. Thompson talked about
destruction of documents,
1235
01:04:56,067 --> 01:04:59,733
and that in Fall of
2002, there was a meeting
1236
01:04:59,733 --> 01:05:01,067
with the trash can rolled in,
1237
01:05:01,067 --> 01:05:03,700
and they selected
documents to be destroyed.
1238
01:05:03,700 --> 01:05:06,767
>> I led all the analyses
with the DeStefano thing,
1239
01:05:06,767 --> 01:05:10,067
literally everyone else got
rid of all their documents,
1240
01:05:10,067 --> 01:05:12,233
so the only documents
that exist right now
1241
01:05:12,233 --> 01:05:13,667
from that study are mine.
1242
01:05:13,667 --> 01:05:16,400
>> These documents were
no doubt federal records.
1243
01:05:16,400 --> 01:05:18,067
They were very important
documents,
1244
01:05:18,067 --> 01:05:20,167
because they showed a
very strong statistically
1245
01:05:20,167 --> 01:05:21,400
significant effect.
1246
01:05:21,400 --> 01:05:23,333
>> He felt that quite
rightly it would be illegal
1247
01:05:23,333 --> 01:05:25,133
to destroy those documents.
1248
01:05:25,133 --> 01:05:28,400
And so in his office, he kept
not only the hard copies,
1249
01:05:28,400 --> 01:05:31,600
but the computerized
files for that study.
1250
01:05:31,600 --> 01:05:36,067
>> There was a dramatically
different result presented
1251
01:05:36,067 --> 01:05:40,700
before and after the time
frame that Thompson alleged
1252
01:05:40,700 --> 01:05:42,733
that these data were destroyed.
1253
01:05:42,733 --> 01:05:47,267
If I never had the
documents before October 2002,
1254
01:05:47,267 --> 01:05:50,200
there would be nothing
that would show
1255
01:05:50,200 --> 01:05:52,800
that they actually had
the results in hand,
1256
01:05:52,800 --> 01:05:55,333
and they decided to
destroy those results.
1257
01:05:55,333 --> 01:05:59,467
I filed a formal complaint to
the Office of Research Integrity
1258
01:05:59,467 --> 01:06:01,833
and the Department of
Health and Human Services.
1259
01:06:01,833 --> 01:06:05,100
I heard back not long after
the complaint was filed,
1260
01:06:05,100 --> 01:06:09,067
and the letter basically
stated that every co-author,
1261
01:06:09,067 --> 01:06:12,667
except for Dr. Thompson,
denied that any
1262
01:06:12,667 --> 01:06:14,500
such meeting was scheduled,
1263
01:06:14,500 --> 01:06:18,467
they denied that any material
was destroyed or thrown away.
1264
01:06:18,467 --> 01:06:20,867
They were calling
Dr. Thompson a liar.
1265
01:06:20,867 --> 01:06:22,933
It was their word against his.
1266
01:06:22,933 --> 01:06:26,200
Dr. Thompson predicted
that this would happen.
1267
01:06:26,200 --> 01:06:28,833
>> There are things I
haven't even shared with you
1268
01:06:28,833 --> 01:06:34,067
because I can't prove it, and
that's what I struggle with.
1269
01:06:34,067 --> 01:06:36,733
I don't want to share things
with you that I can't prove.
1270
01:06:36,733 --> 01:06:42,700
That there aren't hard records
of, because I am worried
1271
01:06:42,700 --> 01:06:45,300
that the other four
people will collude
1272
01:06:45,300 --> 01:06:47,333
and say no that's not true.
1273
01:06:47,333 --> 01:06:50,533
>> Dr. Thompson provided
meeting notes to me
1274
01:06:50,533 --> 01:06:53,933
for precisely the time where
the co-authors are claiming
1275
01:06:53,933 --> 01:06:56,600
that no meeting took place.
1276
01:06:56,600 --> 01:06:59,767
>> That's what I keep seeing
again and again and again.
1277
01:06:59,767 --> 01:07:05,633
Where these senior people just
do completely unethical vile
1278
01:07:05,633 --> 01:07:07,733
things, and no one
holds them accountable.
1279
01:07:07,733 --> 01:07:08,800
>> So look.
1280
01:07:08,800 --> 01:07:10,967
Once you have the data,
a scientific study
1281
01:07:10,967 --> 01:07:13,867
like this is a relatively
simple process.
1282
01:07:13,867 --> 01:07:16,333
You just run the data,
you get the results,
1283
01:07:16,333 --> 01:07:18,900
and then you publish
those results in a paper.
1284
01:07:18,900 --> 01:07:20,400
In their own analysis plan,
1285
01:07:20,400 --> 01:07:23,233
this study was only
supposed to take six months.
1286
01:07:23,233 --> 01:07:27,067
From May 2001 to December 2001.
1287
01:07:27,067 --> 01:07:29,567
So if they weren't
destroying data,
1288
01:07:29,567 --> 01:07:33,833
why did this study end
up taking four years?
1289
01:07:33,833 --> 01:07:35,367
The question everybody needs
1290
01:07:35,367 --> 01:07:38,933
to be asking the CDC is
what the heck happened
1291
01:07:38,933 --> 01:07:44,933
between October 2002
and February of 2004?
1292
01:07:44,933 --> 01:07:47,633
>> The reason you don't see
anything else circulating
1293
01:07:47,633 --> 01:07:49,833
on this study, it
was five of us,
1294
01:07:49,833 --> 01:07:52,733
behind closed doors,
for two years.
1295
01:07:52,733 --> 01:07:54,067
>> Wow.
1296
01:07:55,400 --> 01:07:58,867
>> So after two years of secret
meetings behind closed doors,
1297
01:07:58,867 --> 01:08:02,700
DeStefano emerges with the
final draft of the MMR study,
1298
01:08:02,700 --> 01:08:06,233
and they're going to present it
to the Institute of Medicine.
1299
01:08:06,233 --> 01:08:12,167
>> People on the IOM move from
industry, government, academia,
1300
01:08:12,167 --> 01:08:15,500
government, industry,
and they bounce around.
1301
01:08:15,500 --> 01:08:17,867
It's all the same people,
1302
01:08:17,867 --> 01:08:21,333
and there wasn't a really
good policeman in all of this,
1303
01:08:21,333 --> 01:08:24,633
to really make sure that the
vaccine safety studies are done
1304
01:08:24,633 --> 01:08:27,633
properly and that
they're done objectively.
1305
01:08:27,633 --> 01:08:28,933
It just didn't seem to me
1306
01:08:28,933 --> 01:08:32,967
like we were running a
system that was credible.
1307
01:08:32,967 --> 01:08:35,800
I had written to Julie
Gerberding, and I asked her
1308
01:08:35,800 --> 01:08:39,567
to postpone the February 9th
Institute of Medicine meeting.
1309
01:08:39,567 --> 01:08:42,367
This report, the Institute
of Medicine Report I wanted
1310
01:08:42,367 --> 01:08:47,867
to postpone because my concern
that this was not an exercise
1311
01:08:47,867 --> 01:08:49,800
in discovering the truth,
1312
01:08:49,800 --> 01:08:52,633
but was instead a meeting
being driven by a desire
1313
01:08:52,633 --> 01:08:54,933
to short-circuit
important research
1314
01:08:54,933 --> 01:08:57,733
and draw premature conclusions.
1315
01:08:57,733 --> 01:09:00,200
>> The problem is, William
Thompson being the lead
1316
01:09:00,200 --> 01:09:04,667
scientist, he is going to have
to present their findings.
1317
01:09:04,667 --> 01:09:06,433
And he's not happy about it.
1318
01:09:06,433 --> 01:09:09,933
In fact, he's so upset, that
he goes above the lead author,
1319
01:09:09,933 --> 01:09:12,933
DeStefano, above
Walter Orenstein,
1320
01:09:12,933 --> 01:09:16,767
all the way to the Head of
the CDC, Dr. Julie Gerberding.
1321
01:09:16,767 --> 01:09:19,067
And in an email he says,
1322
01:09:31,267 --> 01:09:34,500
basically saying "I'm not
going to continue this lie.
1323
01:09:34,500 --> 01:09:38,333
If you put me up there, I'm
going to tell the truth."
1324
01:09:38,333 --> 01:09:42,533
>> Thompson was originally
scheduled to provide a briefing,
1325
01:09:42,533 --> 01:09:45,800
because he basically
told Director Gerberding
1326
01:09:45,800 --> 01:09:49,833
that he would have to say that
there is a causal association.
1327
01:09:49,833 --> 01:09:53,500
He was switched at the last
minute with Frank DeStefano,
1328
01:09:53,500 --> 01:09:56,600
who was able to report
to the IOM falsely
1329
01:09:56,600 --> 01:09:58,267
that we have found
no association
1330
01:09:58,267 --> 01:10:01,033
between MMR and autism.
1331
01:10:01,033 --> 01:10:03,533
>> The IOM was the
point of no return.
1332
01:10:03,533 --> 01:10:06,033
And so deprived of the truth,
1333
01:10:06,033 --> 01:10:09,367
the IOM declared
MMR vaccine safe.
1334
01:10:09,367 --> 01:10:13,933
>> It was a rush to judgment,
to shut the door, permanently
1335
01:10:13,933 --> 01:10:18,067
and completely, on
the MMR autism link.
1336
01:10:18,067 --> 01:10:21,433
It is absolutely appalling
that much of what I said turned
1337
01:10:21,433 --> 01:10:23,800
out exactly to be true.
1338
01:10:23,800 --> 01:10:27,267
They were trying to
short-circuit the research.
1339
01:10:27,267 --> 01:10:30,233
>> It's the lowest, you know,
the lowest point in my career,
1340
01:10:30,233 --> 01:10:32,033
that I went along
with that paper.
1341
01:10:32,033 --> 01:10:35,533
>> After their brilliant work
on the MMR study, DeStefano
1342
01:10:35,533 --> 01:10:38,300
and his team received an
award from the Department
1343
01:10:38,300 --> 01:10:40,233
of Health and Human Services.
1344
01:10:40,233 --> 01:10:42,267
And then several years later,
1345
01:10:42,267 --> 01:10:45,500
Dr. Julie Gerberding
received an award of her own.
1346
01:10:45,500 --> 01:10:50,900
A high paid job as head of
the vaccine division at Merck.
1347
01:10:50,900 --> 01:10:55,400
Clearly, Merck appreciated the
work she had done investigating
1348
01:10:55,400 --> 01:10:57,133
their vaccine.
1349
01:11:01,100 --> 01:11:07,633
>> Just to let you know, I wrote
a paper on my results on MMR.
1350
01:11:07,633 --> 01:11:08,900
>> Yes?
1351
01:11:08,900 --> 01:11:12,600
>> And it will include
something that I got from you.
1352
01:11:12,600 --> 01:11:15,533
>> Brian was about to
publish a paper using data
1353
01:11:15,533 --> 01:11:18,133
that could only have come
from an inside source
1354
01:11:18,133 --> 01:11:20,167
in the CDC, a whistle-blower.
1355
01:11:20,167 --> 01:11:21,567
And from that point forward,
1356
01:11:21,567 --> 01:11:23,767
William Thompson
was a marked man.
1357
01:11:23,767 --> 01:11:28,367
>> Andy approached
me and said it's time
1358
01:11:28,367 --> 01:11:31,067
to publicize the
CDC whistle-blower.
1359
01:11:31,067 --> 01:11:32,333
>> Ironically 12 years later,
1360
01:11:32,333 --> 01:11:36,567
while Thompson is bearing
his soul to Brian Hooker,
1361
01:11:36,567 --> 01:11:40,333
in front of Congress Coleen
Boyle is just peddling the same
1362
01:11:40,333 --> 01:11:42,400
old CDC fraud.
1363
01:11:42,400 --> 01:11:44,300
But this time, it's
to a new player.
1364
01:11:44,300 --> 01:11:47,400
And that is Congressman
Bill Posey from Florida.
1365
01:11:47,400 --> 01:11:49,667
>> I wonder if the
CDC has conducted
1366
01:11:49,667 --> 01:11:53,400
or facilitated a study
comparing vaccinated children
1367
01:11:53,400 --> 01:11:54,867
with unvaccinated children yet?
1368
01:11:54,867 --> 01:11:56,167
Have you done that?
1369
01:11:56,167 --> 01:11:58,567
>> We have actually done a
number of studies looking
1370
01:11:58,567 --> 01:12:03,367
at the relationship between
Thiomerisol vaccines and autism,
1371
01:12:03,367 --> 01:12:05,133
and other developmental
disabilities.
1372
01:12:05,133 --> 01:12:08,333
>> The lies from the
CDC were still the same.
1373
01:12:08,333 --> 01:12:11,733
The difference now is
we had William Thompson.
1374
01:12:11,733 --> 01:12:15,467
>> Vaccines and their components
did not increase the risk
1375
01:12:15,467 --> 01:12:16,867
for autism.
1376
01:12:16,867 --> 01:12:20,467
>> But my time is very limited
here, so clearly, definitely,
1377
01:12:20,467 --> 01:12:26,367
unequivocally, you have studied
vaccinated versus unvaccinated?
1378
01:12:26,367 --> 01:12:28,733
>> We have not studied
vaccinated
1379
01:12:28,733 --> 01:12:30,833
versus unvaccinated, as you--
1380
01:12:30,833 --> 01:12:32,067
>> Never mind, that
is just not there,
1381
01:12:32,067 --> 01:12:33,433
that is the meaning
of my question.
1382
01:12:33,433 --> 01:12:35,067
You've wasted two
minutes of my time.
1383
01:12:35,067 --> 01:12:37,867
>> Brian had also
submitted a related paper
1384
01:12:37,867 --> 01:12:39,867
to a journal called
Nature Neuroscience.
1385
01:12:39,867 --> 01:12:42,500
And in that paper, he
had specifically referred
1386
01:12:42,500 --> 01:12:44,600
to an unnamed source at the CDC.
1387
01:12:44,600 --> 01:12:48,067
And my worst fears were
realized, when a journalist
1388
01:12:48,067 --> 01:12:50,867
from Nature Neuroscience
contacted the CDC,
1389
01:12:50,867 --> 01:12:53,533
contacted Walter
Orenstein, the message went
1390
01:12:53,533 --> 01:12:57,667
on to Frank DeStefano, who sent
it out to the co-authors saying,
1391
01:12:57,667 --> 01:12:58,800
"Keep your heads down.
1392
01:12:58,800 --> 01:13:01,567
This may be coming your way."
1393
01:13:01,567 --> 01:13:04,467
>> The fear was all of a
sudden we'd be dredging a river
1394
01:13:04,467 --> 01:13:05,833
for Bill Thompson.
1395
01:13:05,833 --> 01:13:08,800
>> So I said to him, Brian,
we've got to do three things.
1396
01:13:08,800 --> 01:13:12,100
We have got to get Thompson
a whistle-blower lawyer.
1397
01:13:12,100 --> 01:13:15,700
We have got to make sure that
his documents are with Posey,
1398
01:13:15,700 --> 01:13:18,533
and we've got to
reveal his name.
1399
01:13:18,533 --> 01:13:23,567
Whistle-blowers are in danger
only as long as the only people
1400
01:13:23,567 --> 01:13:27,067
who know their identity
are their enemies.
1401
01:13:30,067 --> 01:13:32,700
>> Do vaccines cause autism?
1402
01:13:32,700 --> 01:13:34,400
In the last 30 years,
1403
01:13:34,400 --> 01:13:37,667
the childhood vaccine
schedule has tripled,
1404
01:13:37,667 --> 01:13:40,833
while the U.S. autism
rate has skyrocketed
1405
01:13:40,833 --> 01:13:44,700
from 1 in 10,000 to 1 in 50.
1406
01:13:44,700 --> 01:13:49,367
Dozens of published research
papers show that yes, vaccines
1407
01:13:49,367 --> 01:13:51,733
and autism are linked.
1408
01:13:51,733 --> 01:13:53,167
Yet, the debate rages on,
1409
01:13:53,167 --> 01:13:57,200
in part because of a 1986
National Childhood Vaccine
1410
01:13:57,200 --> 01:14:00,367
Injury Act, passed by
Congress, as the result
1411
01:14:00,367 --> 01:14:02,467
of pharmaceutical lobbying.
1412
01:14:02,467 --> 01:14:05,433
It shields drug companies
from liability for injuries
1413
01:14:05,433 --> 01:14:09,367
and deaths caused by the
vaccines they manufacture.
1414
01:14:09,367 --> 01:14:12,400
Vaccines that the federal
government admits are
1415
01:14:12,400 --> 01:14:14,767
unavoidably unsafe.
1416
01:14:14,767 --> 01:14:17,600
Instead of suing the
pharmaceutical company directly,
1417
01:14:17,600 --> 01:14:20,467
parents are forced to petition
the Department of Health
1418
01:14:20,467 --> 01:14:21,567
and Human Services,
1419
01:14:21,567 --> 01:14:24,767
and if federal officials
oppose compensation,
1420
01:14:24,767 --> 01:14:27,800
the case is argued
before a special master
1421
01:14:27,800 --> 01:14:29,800
in the U.S. Claims Court.
1422
01:14:29,800 --> 01:14:32,900
Many refer to this
as vaccine court.
1423
01:14:32,900 --> 01:14:35,100
Here are some shocking facts
1424
01:14:35,100 --> 01:14:37,933
about the so-called
vaccine court.
1425
01:14:37,933 --> 01:14:41,067
Pharmaceutical companies
do not have to participate
1426
01:14:41,067 --> 01:14:43,133
in the proceedings at all.
1427
01:14:43,133 --> 01:14:47,067
Taxpayers pay for all damages.
1428
01:14:47,067 --> 01:14:50,533
The U.S. Department of Justice
acts as a government's lawyer,
1429
01:14:50,533 --> 01:14:54,167
with taxpayers footing the
bill for their defense.
1430
01:14:58,067 --> 01:15:00,967
>> Beginning in 2002, there
were already thousands
1431
01:15:00,967 --> 01:15:04,900
of cases accumulating
in vaccine court,
1432
01:15:04,900 --> 01:15:07,867
and the average compensation
for an autistic child is
1433
01:15:07,867 --> 01:15:12,067
in the range of $5 million
dollars, so just do the math.
1434
01:15:12,067 --> 01:15:14,667
The government was facing
several hundred billion,
1435
01:15:14,667 --> 01:15:17,167
possibly a trillion
dollars in liability
1436
01:15:17,167 --> 01:15:19,300
as the autism epidemic grew.
1437
01:15:19,300 --> 01:15:24,367
They had to develop a fraudulent
study that would exonerate MMR
1438
01:15:24,367 --> 01:15:27,867
to deliberately defeat the
cases in vaccine court,
1439
01:15:27,867 --> 01:15:29,433
to avoid paying the
trillion dollars.
1440
01:15:29,433 --> 01:15:34,100
So the thousands of autism
petitioners were denied their
1441
01:15:34,100 --> 01:15:37,533
fair day in court by a corrupt
1442
01:15:37,533 --> 01:15:40,233
and deliberate obstruction
of justice.
1443
01:15:40,233 --> 01:15:45,833
It's one of the most unethical
medical decisions of all time,
1444
01:15:45,833 --> 01:15:47,433
because it was made
with knowledge
1445
01:15:47,433 --> 01:15:51,567
to sacrifice these
children as a direct affront
1446
01:15:51,567 --> 01:15:55,067
to the Congressional Mandate
that they all be compensated.
1447
01:16:08,067 --> 01:16:09,900
>> In the fall of last
year, I got a call
1448
01:16:09,900 --> 01:16:13,300
from an inside source, who
told me that in two weeks,
1449
01:16:13,300 --> 01:16:16,367
there's going to be a whistle
blower from the CDC who is going
1450
01:16:16,367 --> 01:16:19,633
to come out and say that
the CDC had committed fraud
1451
01:16:19,633 --> 01:16:22,533
on the MMR study
and that they knew
1452
01:16:22,533 --> 01:16:26,067
that vaccines were
actually causing autism.
1453
01:16:26,067 --> 01:16:28,633
I mean, that's a huge story.
1454
01:16:28,633 --> 01:16:31,267
Unfortunately it was a story
I would not be able to tell
1455
01:16:31,267 --> 01:16:34,067
on a medical talk show, because
a lot of our funding was coming
1456
01:16:34,067 --> 01:16:35,400
from the pharmaceutical
industry,
1457
01:16:35,400 --> 01:16:37,867
and we were also very
good friends with the CDC,
1458
01:16:37,867 --> 01:16:41,233
who had appeared on
our show many times.
1459
01:16:41,233 --> 01:16:45,800
But I knew that once this
story broke, two weeks later,
1460
01:16:45,800 --> 01:16:48,167
that the mainstream news
media would pick it up.
1461
01:16:48,167 --> 01:16:49,333
Fox would be on it.
1462
01:16:49,333 --> 01:16:50,767
CNN would be on it.
1463
01:16:50,767 --> 01:16:54,167
MSNBC, and we're talking about
the biggest medical story
1464
01:16:54,167 --> 01:16:56,300
in the last decade
or two at least.
1465
01:16:56,300 --> 01:16:58,567
So that two weeks came.
1466
01:16:58,567 --> 01:17:01,400
I saw the video that was
posted by Andrew Wakefield
1467
01:17:01,400 --> 01:17:03,367
and Brian Hooker,
and I heard the words
1468
01:17:03,367 --> 01:17:06,100
of William Thompson
and his confession.
1469
01:17:06,100 --> 01:17:11,067
>> Oh my god, I cannot
believe we did what we did.
1470
01:17:11,067 --> 01:17:13,100
But we did.
1471
01:17:13,100 --> 01:17:13,933
It's all there.
1472
01:17:13,933 --> 01:17:15,300
It's all there.
1473
01:17:15,300 --> 01:17:20,067
>> And I watched the Blogosphere
go crazy, tweets, Facebook,
1474
01:17:20,067 --> 01:17:23,067
social media, everybody
talking about it.
1475
01:17:23,067 --> 01:17:28,067
But not one mainstream media
source went anywhere near
1476
01:17:28,067 --> 01:17:29,067
the story.
1477
01:17:29,067 --> 01:17:31,100
In fact, on CNN someone
put the story
1478
01:17:31,100 --> 01:17:35,133
up on iReport, and
CNN took it down.
1479
01:17:35,133 --> 01:17:39,433
And at that moment, I
realized wait a minute.
1480
01:17:39,433 --> 01:17:42,300
Not only is my medical
talk show being produced
1481
01:17:42,300 --> 01:17:47,367
by the pharmaceutical
industry, all of television is.
1482
01:17:47,367 --> 01:17:49,433
We were never going
to get this story.
1483
01:17:49,433 --> 01:17:54,733
But we certainly
did get a story.
1484
01:17:54,733 --> 01:17:56,933
>> A highly contagious
measles outbreak.
1485
01:17:56,933 --> 01:17:57,900
>> Major outbreak.
1486
01:17:57,900 --> 01:17:58,900
>> Measles outbreaks.
1487
01:17:58,900 --> 01:18:01,067
>> Measles on the
march in America.
1488
01:18:01,067 --> 01:18:03,233
>> This outbreak is showing
no signs of letting up.
1489
01:18:03,233 --> 01:18:05,533
>> But in 2014, the
number tripled,
1490
01:18:05,533 --> 01:18:10,167
to 644 measles cases
reported in 27 states.
1491
01:18:10,167 --> 01:18:15,367
>> It's really amazing to
consider the number of cases
1492
01:18:15,367 --> 01:18:18,067
of autism every year,
and to contrast
1493
01:18:18,067 --> 01:18:22,767
that to let's say the number of
children who acquired measles
1494
01:18:22,767 --> 01:18:24,267
by going to Disneyland.
1495
01:18:24,267 --> 01:18:29,067
It's a tiny number of
children who acquired measles,
1496
01:18:29,067 --> 01:18:33,133
and it's a vast number of
children who are being diagnosed
1497
01:18:33,133 --> 01:18:35,233
with autism every day.
1498
01:18:36,867 --> 01:18:39,733
>> We don't know
what causes autism.
1499
01:18:39,733 --> 01:18:40,833
I mean, that's fair to say.
1500
01:18:40,833 --> 01:18:42,067
We are not sure
1501
01:18:42,067 --> 01:18:43,967
in the scientific
community what causes autism,
1502
01:18:43,967 --> 01:18:46,667
but we know that
vaccines do not.
1503
01:18:46,667 --> 01:18:49,300
>> Now, I'm not saying that
Sanjay Gupta is a bad guy.
1504
01:18:49,300 --> 01:18:53,067
In fact, I think that he
tries to do a lot of good.
1505
01:18:53,067 --> 01:18:55,433
Just like many doctors do.
1506
01:18:55,433 --> 01:18:58,333
But if they're being lied
to by the scientific body
1507
01:18:58,333 --> 01:19:01,067
that provides them
with their information,
1508
01:19:01,067 --> 01:19:02,867
what happens to all of us?
1509
01:19:02,867 --> 01:19:08,600
What happens if a good doctor
sees the same data that I saw?
1510
01:19:08,600 --> 01:19:10,733
>> So you're a scientist,
basically.
1511
01:19:10,733 --> 01:19:12,533
So you're studying this.
1512
01:19:12,533 --> 01:19:15,433
And you feel 100% confident,
you even said you have kids,
1513
01:19:15,433 --> 01:19:16,967
so you're a family person.
1514
01:19:16,967 --> 01:19:17,733
>> Yes.
1515
01:19:17,733 --> 01:19:18,667
>> You would feel very...
1516
01:19:18,667 --> 01:19:19,833
>> How long have
you been a doctor,
1517
01:19:19,833 --> 01:19:21,867
and sort of what is
your area of specialty?
1518
01:19:21,867 --> 01:19:24,667
>> Sure, I've been a
family medical physician
1519
01:19:24,667 --> 01:19:26,833
for over 10 years now,
in treating families,
1520
01:19:26,833 --> 01:19:28,433
everyone from newborns
all the way
1521
01:19:28,433 --> 01:19:31,600
up to my oldest patient is 96.
1522
01:19:31,600 --> 01:19:34,633
>> So do you administer
vaccines as part of that?
1523
01:19:34,633 --> 01:19:36,533
>> Yes I do administer vaccines.
1524
01:19:36,533 --> 01:19:39,533
In our clinic, we follow
the CDC recommendations,
1525
01:19:39,533 --> 01:19:43,067
and we give that
information to our patients,
1526
01:19:43,067 --> 01:19:45,200
and we give them a schedule of
when their children are going
1527
01:19:45,200 --> 01:19:47,933
to need to be vaccinated,
and so on and so forth.
1528
01:19:47,933 --> 01:19:49,867
>> There's something
I want to show you.
1529
01:19:49,867 --> 01:19:53,167
This is the formal complaint
about what they've been given
1530
01:19:53,167 --> 01:19:55,833
by William Thompson,
as well the CDC.
1531
01:19:55,833 --> 01:19:58,200
Okay? There's all sorts
of reference materials
1532
01:19:58,200 --> 01:19:59,333
in here and things like that.
1533
01:19:59,333 --> 01:20:03,433
I'm just going to give
you time to look at it,
1534
01:20:03,433 --> 01:20:05,700
study it as long
as you want, okay?
1535
01:20:05,700 --> 01:20:08,067
When you feel like you have
a grasp of it, you are going
1536
01:20:08,067 --> 01:20:09,333
to know, it's going
to take some time,
1537
01:20:09,333 --> 01:20:10,467
appreciate you taking the time.
1538
01:20:10,467 --> 01:20:11,033
>> All right.
1539
01:20:11,033 --> 01:20:11,467
>> All right?
1540
01:20:11,467 --> 01:20:12,600
Okay.
1541
01:20:14,633 --> 01:20:18,800
>> So I have sent you what
William Thompson has said is the
1542
01:20:18,800 --> 01:20:20,500
fraud at the CDC.
1543
01:20:20,500 --> 01:20:23,000
All of that data
that was missing.
1544
01:20:23,000 --> 01:20:26,867
Did you get a chance
to really look it over?
1545
01:20:26,867 --> 01:20:29,300
>> It's really unbelievable.
1546
01:20:29,300 --> 01:20:34,867
How blatantly the data
was switched around.
1547
01:20:34,867 --> 01:20:37,867
It made me question whether
or not this organization
1548
01:20:37,867 --> 01:20:41,267
that has been mandating
how I practice medicine
1549
01:20:41,267 --> 01:20:44,633
for the past 10 years, if
they're lying about this,
1550
01:20:44,633 --> 01:20:47,700
they're leaving data out
about this particular study--
1551
01:20:47,700 --> 01:20:52,033
what else am I being
lied to about?
1552
01:20:53,867 --> 01:20:55,667
>> I'm still trying
to digest it.
1553
01:20:55,667 --> 01:20:59,900
Because this study,
which was used to kind
1554
01:20:59,900 --> 01:21:04,967
of give the definitive answer
to us pediatricians, that oh,
1555
01:21:04,967 --> 01:21:08,367
the MMR is not related
to autism,
1556
01:21:08,367 --> 01:21:09,067
I kind of feel
1557
01:21:09,067 --> 01:21:10,767
like I've been lied to.
1558
01:21:10,767 --> 01:21:13,400
When they set out to do the
study, they wanted to look
1559
01:21:13,400 --> 01:21:17,067
at the data, and interpret the
data, but then there is a piece
1560
01:21:17,067 --> 01:21:20,267
of data that they
chose to ignore.
1561
01:21:20,267 --> 01:21:24,600
The data they excluded was
really, really significant.
1562
01:21:24,600 --> 01:21:25,233
>> Think about it.
1563
01:21:25,233 --> 01:21:26,633
It is a big deal.
1564
01:21:26,633 --> 01:21:31,400
It is a big deal for a physician
to have to deal with the fact
1565
01:21:31,400 --> 01:21:34,400
that for the past 10, 20 years,
1566
01:21:34,400 --> 01:21:38,500
we've been potentially
destroying the brains
1567
01:21:38,500 --> 01:21:39,600
of children.
1568
01:21:39,600 --> 01:21:41,067
>> Everything I've been
telling my patients
1569
01:21:41,067 --> 01:21:48,067
for the last 10 years has been
based on a lie and a cover up.
1570
01:21:48,067 --> 01:21:49,233
>> Parents making decisions
1571
01:21:49,233 --> 01:21:51,200
about their children's
health deserve
1572
01:21:51,200 --> 01:21:53,900
to have the best
information available to them.
1573
01:21:53,900 --> 01:21:56,267
They should be able to
count on federal agencies
1574
01:21:56,267 --> 01:21:58,867
to tell them the truth.
1575
01:21:58,867 --> 01:22:00,900
>> Once Brian and I had
outed Bill Thompson,
1576
01:22:00,900 --> 01:22:03,533
he got himself a whistle-blower
lawyer, he provided all
1577
01:22:03,533 --> 01:22:05,933
of his documents on the
fraudulent CDC study
1578
01:22:05,933 --> 01:22:09,067
to Congressman Posey, who
then went before the Congress.
1579
01:22:09,067 --> 01:22:11,900
>> Considering the nature of
the whistle blower's documents,
1580
01:22:11,900 --> 01:22:15,333
as well as the involvement
of the CDC, a hearing
1581
01:22:15,333 --> 01:22:18,767
and a thorough investigation
is warranted.
1582
01:22:18,767 --> 01:22:24,067
So I ask Mr. Speaker, I
beg, I implore my colleagues
1583
01:22:24,067 --> 01:22:26,567
on the Appropriations
Committees to please,
1584
01:22:26,567 --> 01:22:27,933
please take such action.
1585
01:22:27,933 --> 01:22:30,533
Thank you Mr. Speaker,
I yield back.
1586
01:22:30,533 --> 01:22:31,867
>> It's now been 7 months
1587
01:22:31,867 --> 01:22:34,767
since Congressman Bill
Posey urged the Congress
1588
01:22:34,767 --> 01:22:38,833
to subpoena Bill Thompson,
and they have done nothing.
1589
01:22:38,833 --> 01:22:42,300
>> Bill Thompson wants to
be subpoenaed by Congress.
1590
01:22:42,300 --> 01:22:45,733
As a CDC employee from
the federal government,
1591
01:22:45,733 --> 01:22:48,633
he cannot speak voluntarily
1592
01:22:48,633 --> 01:22:50,433
because of the threat
of jail time.
1593
01:22:50,433 --> 01:22:54,833
>> Absolutely, William Thompson
needs to go before Congress.
1594
01:22:54,833 --> 01:22:57,067
He needs to go before
the whole nation.
1595
01:22:57,067 --> 01:23:00,367
Everybody needs to see
what he has to say.
1596
01:23:00,367 --> 01:23:02,533
>> He needs to be
deposed in front
1597
01:23:02,533 --> 01:23:03,833
of a committee in Congress.
1598
01:23:03,833 --> 01:23:07,733
And Julie Gerberding has to
be brought in and deposed.
1599
01:23:07,733 --> 01:23:11,167
Because this is a very, very,
very disturbing revelation.
1600
01:23:11,167 --> 01:23:14,067
For this researcher to come
forward and be saying now
1601
01:23:14,067 --> 01:23:18,133
that they were indeed
deliberately concealing critical
1602
01:23:18,133 --> 01:23:21,533
information about
an MMR autism link--
1603
01:23:21,533 --> 01:23:24,433
horrible, horrible development.
1604
01:23:24,433 --> 01:23:27,133
>> Deviation from
an analysis plan.
1605
01:23:27,133 --> 01:23:29,700
Omission of crucial data.
1606
01:23:29,700 --> 01:23:31,833
Destruction of documents.
1607
01:23:31,833 --> 01:23:34,333
Obstruction of justice.
1608
01:23:34,333 --> 01:23:36,300
Misleading the Congress.
1609
01:23:36,300 --> 01:23:39,767
Grievous harm to
innocent children.
1610
01:23:39,767 --> 01:23:42,567
This has to be investigated.
1611
01:23:42,567 --> 01:23:43,867
>> You and I are in agreement.
1612
01:23:43,867 --> 01:23:46,367
Vaccine safety should
not be in the CDC.
1613
01:23:46,367 --> 01:23:47,200
>> Absolutely.
1614
01:23:47,200 --> 01:23:48,867
You would end up with an agency
1615
01:23:48,867 --> 01:23:51,800
like the National
Transportation Safety Board.
1616
01:23:51,800 --> 01:23:54,733
>> The next thing they need
to do is somebody needs
1617
01:23:54,733 --> 01:23:57,367
to reintroduce the
Weldon-Maloney Bill.
1618
01:23:57,367 --> 01:24:00,067
It needs to be very, very
quickly enacted, and you need
1619
01:24:00,067 --> 01:24:03,500
to take all of the vaccine
safety responsibilities
1620
01:24:03,500 --> 01:24:04,700
out of the CDC.
1621
01:24:04,700 --> 01:24:08,933
>> These children have
been maimed by the actions
1622
01:24:08,933 --> 01:24:11,333
of Coleen Boyle,
Frank DeStefano,
1623
01:24:11,333 --> 01:24:14,533
Marshalyn Yeargin-Allsop,
and Tanya Bhasin.
1624
01:24:14,533 --> 01:24:18,433
My son has been debilitated
for 17 years.
1625
01:24:18,433 --> 01:24:22,100
I think jail time is too
good for these individuals
1626
01:24:22,100 --> 01:24:24,300
who have perpetrated such fraud.
1627
01:24:24,300 --> 01:24:29,067
>> The notion of vaccinating
children, protecting children
1628
01:24:29,067 --> 01:24:33,133
against serious infectious
disease with vaccines
1629
01:24:33,133 --> 01:24:38,067
that are safe and
effective is laudable.
1630
01:24:38,067 --> 01:24:41,100
You hear about measles
outbreaks in Disneyland,
1631
01:24:41,100 --> 01:24:43,433
and then they try
and sell you MMR.
1632
01:24:43,433 --> 01:24:47,200
We didn't see autism being
reported as a consequence
1633
01:24:47,200 --> 01:24:50,333
of the single vaccine,
only of the triple vaccine.
1634
01:24:50,333 --> 01:24:52,600
So my feeling is that we need
1635
01:24:52,600 --> 01:24:56,067
to review vaccination
policy across the board.
1636
01:24:56,067 --> 01:24:57,633
But in the first instance,
1637
01:24:57,633 --> 01:25:01,833
I do believe we can make
the problem far less
1638
01:25:01,833 --> 01:25:04,467
if we separate those vaccines
1639
01:25:04,467 --> 01:25:08,867
out into their single
measles, mumps and rubella.
1640
01:25:08,867 --> 01:25:10,767
>> I just cannot
imagine what it will be
1641
01:25:10,767 --> 01:25:12,900
like if we really
do face a future
1642
01:25:12,900 --> 01:25:16,333
in which half the children born
end up on the autism spectrum.
1643
01:25:16,333 --> 01:25:18,667
I mean, it will be so
disruptive of the school system.
1644
01:25:18,667 --> 01:25:20,867
There will be so little
money to be able to spend
1645
01:25:20,867 --> 01:25:23,500
on the normal children to
help them to bring them
1646
01:25:23,500 --> 01:25:25,067
up and to educate them.
1647
01:25:25,067 --> 01:25:27,900
We're just going to have
extremely sick children.
1648
01:25:27,900 --> 01:25:32,467
And parents that will be so
distracted by the challenge
1649
01:25:32,467 --> 01:25:35,733
of bringing up these
children that are so sick
1650
01:25:35,733 --> 01:25:38,667
that our society will not be
able to focus on anything else.
1651
01:25:38,667 --> 01:25:40,900
>> The implications of
that for our country,
1652
01:25:40,900 --> 01:25:42,567
for our competitiveness
as a nation,
1653
01:25:42,567 --> 01:25:45,067
for our economy, are massive.
1654
01:25:45,067 --> 01:25:47,767
They must know, and
they do know,
1655
01:25:47,767 --> 01:25:50,367
that there is a national
emergency.
1656
01:25:50,367 --> 01:25:52,733
>> I mean this is going to
be a complete catastrophe
1657
01:25:52,733 --> 01:25:54,533
if we just let it happen.
1658
01:25:57,067 --> 01:26:01,433
>> What will you say the next
time a mother sitting there
1659
01:26:01,433 --> 01:26:06,100
with her baby in her
hands says Dr. Rachel,
1660
01:26:06,100 --> 01:26:08,167
is the MMR vaccine safe?
1661
01:26:08,167 --> 01:26:11,367
>> Hm...I'm going to tell her.
1662
01:26:11,367 --> 01:26:15,333
I'm going to say, you know,
honestly I'm not going
1663
01:26:15,333 --> 01:26:19,067
to give the MMR vaccine to
my babies, and here's why.
1664
01:26:22,500 --> 01:30:41,567
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