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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:05,756 --> 00:00:07,422 MAN: From 1989 to 2001, 2 00:00:07,506 --> 00:00:09,422 there were almost no legitimate winners 3 00:00:09,506 --> 00:00:11,297 in the McDonald's Monopoly game. 4 00:00:11,547 --> 00:00:16,089 I mean, how crazy bullshit is that? (LAUGHS) 5 00:00:16,547 --> 00:00:17,381 (CASH REGISTER DINGS) 6 00:00:17,673 --> 00:00:20,255 McDonald's makes french fries and apple pies. 7 00:00:20,339 --> 00:00:21,923 They don't make marketing. 8 00:00:22,005 --> 00:00:24,381 MAN 2: Simon Marketing actually produced and came up with 9 00:00:24,464 --> 00:00:25,673 the Monopoly game. 10 00:00:26,381 --> 00:00:29,756 The FBI told us the game pieces are being stolen. 11 00:00:29,839 --> 00:00:31,714 MAN: And the person who's controlling this 12 00:00:31,798 --> 00:00:33,464 is this Uncle Jerry. 13 00:00:33,547 --> 00:00:35,255 We had this one shot. 14 00:00:35,964 --> 00:00:38,005 I wanted to burn down the criminal enterprise. 15 00:00:38,381 --> 00:00:39,881 So, we were on the wire taps 16 00:00:39,964 --> 00:00:42,255 to find out the depths of this scheme. 17 00:00:42,714 --> 00:00:46,506 MAN 3: We did an analysis of past winners' phone records. 18 00:00:46,589 --> 00:00:50,172 MAN 4: All these phone calls include Jerome Jacobson, 19 00:00:50,381 --> 00:00:53,130 also known as Jerry Jacobson, 20 00:00:53,214 --> 00:00:55,964 head of security for Simon Marketing. 21 00:01:01,047 --> 00:01:03,130 [bright tone] 22 00:01:04,422 --> 00:01:07,506 [dramatic music] 23 00:01:13,089 --> 00:01:14,547 [indistinct chatter] 24 00:01:14,631 --> 00:01:15,923 - Hey, here's a man who looks 25 00:01:16,005 --> 00:01:17,547 like he has something to say. 26 00:01:17,631 --> 00:01:18,839 - Are we all set, Ronnie? - Well, I bet! 27 00:01:18,923 --> 00:01:20,047 Oh! - Hey, careful. 28 00:01:20,130 --> 00:01:21,297 - Looks like he's got flubber 29 00:01:21,381 --> 00:01:22,589 shoes on, too, today. 30 00:01:22,673 --> 00:01:24,047 [laughter] 31 00:01:24,130 --> 00:01:28,839 - A wonderful anonymous donor 32 00:01:28,923 --> 00:01:34,214 mailed a Mono--a Monopoly game piece, 33 00:01:34,297 --> 00:01:36,881 and right here in the middle of it 34 00:01:36,964 --> 00:01:42,923 was a little winning ticket of $1 million. 35 00:01:43,005 --> 00:01:44,756 - Whoa! - Hey, wow! 36 00:01:44,839 --> 00:01:47,756 [cheers and applause] 37 00:01:47,839 --> 00:01:49,798 [dramatic music] 38 00:01:49,881 --> 00:01:53,756 - Somebody won a $1 million Monopoly game 39 00:01:53,839 --> 00:01:56,381 at McDonald's, and God bless him, 40 00:01:56,464 --> 00:02:00,214 decided to send that money to the children of St. Jude. 41 00:02:00,297 --> 00:02:02,130 - Well, this is a great day. 42 00:02:02,214 --> 00:02:04,255 Uh, we and McDonald's have a game going, 43 00:02:04,339 --> 00:02:06,089 which, uh, a person won a game piece 44 00:02:06,172 --> 00:02:09,047 in--in Texas and mailed it to St. Jude's anonymously 45 00:02:09,130 --> 00:02:11,673 and, uh, McDonald's worked out a way to pay the game piece 46 00:02:11,756 --> 00:02:13,881 even though it could--really can't be transferred. 47 00:02:13,964 --> 00:02:16,047 - It's just a wonderful Christmas story 48 00:02:16,130 --> 00:02:19,756 that someone would give that way anonymously 49 00:02:19,839 --> 00:02:21,130 and not want any recognition, 50 00:02:21,214 --> 00:02:23,506 uh, for the children at St. Jude. 51 00:02:23,589 --> 00:02:25,506 ♪ ♪ 52 00:02:25,589 --> 00:02:31,005 - The McDonald's Monopoly game went back to 1987 53 00:02:31,089 --> 00:02:35,714 and so we didn't know how long the contest was fixed. 54 00:02:36,506 --> 00:02:39,005 - St. Jude's was listed as a winner which, 55 00:02:39,089 --> 00:02:41,464 you know, was, uh, certainly an anomaly. 56 00:02:41,547 --> 00:02:45,631 We didn't know if this is part of this conspiracy. 57 00:02:45,714 --> 00:02:49,214 - We didn't know how Jerry Jacobson 58 00:02:49,297 --> 00:02:52,214 was involved in this fraud scheme 59 00:02:52,297 --> 00:02:55,839 or if he was Uncle Jerry. 60 00:02:55,923 --> 00:02:58,255 I mean, at first you just think it's an alias name 61 00:02:58,339 --> 00:03:01,673 but at least it was at least half of the name. 62 00:03:01,756 --> 00:03:02,798 - Hey, help me, Fred, will you? 63 00:03:02,881 --> 00:03:04,005 Ooh, this is heavy. Ooh, ooh! 64 00:03:04,089 --> 00:03:06,464 - Odds of finding the winning piece 65 00:03:06,547 --> 00:03:09,881 were one in more than 206,000,000. 66 00:03:09,964 --> 00:03:14,381 Odds of someone giving it away, Heaven only knows. 67 00:03:14,464 --> 00:03:17,422 [tense music] 68 00:03:17,506 --> 00:03:24,589 ♪ ♪ 69 00:03:42,631 --> 00:03:49,673 ♪ ♪ 70 00:03:59,714 --> 00:04:02,798 [seagulls squawking] 71 00:04:18,339 --> 00:04:21,756 - My name is Marvin Braun. I live in Miami, Florida. 72 00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:24,756 Jerry Jacobson is my stepbrother, yes. 73 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:26,214 He is my stepbrother. 74 00:04:29,506 --> 00:04:31,339 - Yeah, I mean we grew up as-- 75 00:04:31,422 --> 00:04:33,214 I don't think brother brothers, 76 00:04:33,297 --> 00:04:35,756 but we grew up close. 77 00:04:35,839 --> 00:04:38,172 We're only a week apart in age. 78 00:04:38,923 --> 00:04:43,756 His dream in life was always becoming an FBI agent. 79 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:46,798 - There I was out on my first assignment. 80 00:04:46,881 --> 00:04:48,297 - It never worked out, 81 00:04:48,381 --> 00:04:50,673 but it's funny. It's a funny story. 82 00:04:50,756 --> 00:04:53,089 If you said to me to describe this story, 83 00:04:53,172 --> 00:04:54,464 I would say, "Don't believe it," 84 00:04:54,547 --> 00:04:56,130 but it's true. 85 00:04:56,673 --> 00:04:59,089 Don't believe it. [laughs] 86 00:04:59,172 --> 00:05:00,214 Just weird. 87 00:05:00,297 --> 00:05:02,005 It's just weird how it happened. 88 00:05:02,089 --> 00:05:03,964 [tense music] 89 00:05:04,047 --> 00:05:07,130 He had discussed about the game pieces one time. 90 00:05:07,214 --> 00:05:11,297 I think it was 1989 and we had discussed 91 00:05:11,381 --> 00:05:14,923 how, you know, he--he would be able to possibly get 92 00:05:15,005 --> 00:05:18,964 the $25,000 game piece, and, um, you know, 93 00:05:19,047 --> 00:05:22,214 if we could do something with it and, you know, whatever. 94 00:05:22,297 --> 00:05:26,964 ♪ ♪ 95 00:05:27,047 --> 00:05:28,589 A month later or six weeks later-- 96 00:05:28,673 --> 00:05:31,756 I don't remember-- he showed up with a piece. 97 00:05:31,839 --> 00:05:33,714 And he says, uh, cash it in. 98 00:05:33,798 --> 00:05:37,631 There was an 800 number to, uh, call, which I did, 99 00:05:37,714 --> 00:05:41,172 and they gave me instructions. I went to the post office. 100 00:05:41,255 --> 00:05:44,631 I registered it--whatever the words are at the post office-- 101 00:05:44,714 --> 00:05:46,923 and everything else, and I sent it in. 102 00:05:47,005 --> 00:05:51,172 ♪ ♪ 103 00:05:51,255 --> 00:05:54,255 I think I was the first person to turn a ticket in. 104 00:05:54,339 --> 00:05:55,839 ♪ ♪ 105 00:05:55,923 --> 00:05:59,589 He knew I knew--I, um-- I'd keep my mouth shut. 106 00:05:59,673 --> 00:06:01,506 I guess that's the right way of saying it. 107 00:06:01,589 --> 00:06:03,589 He trusted me with it, you know? 108 00:06:06,172 --> 00:06:07,255 - No. 109 00:06:08,255 --> 00:06:09,422 No. 110 00:06:09,506 --> 00:06:16,589 ♪ ♪ 111 00:06:20,214 --> 00:06:22,464 - So we were looking into 112 00:06:22,547 --> 00:06:25,089 Simon Marketing's "Jerry Jacobson." 113 00:06:25,172 --> 00:06:28,589 ♪ ♪ 114 00:06:28,673 --> 00:06:32,130 Once we got the title III surveillance 115 00:06:32,214 --> 00:06:33,839 listening to phone calls, 116 00:06:33,923 --> 00:06:38,422 we had him on the wire all day, all night. 117 00:06:38,506 --> 00:06:39,881 - So we had thought, 118 00:06:39,964 --> 00:06:42,172 "Hey, this may be the main guy." 119 00:06:42,255 --> 00:06:44,422 So then we started focusing more on trying 120 00:06:44,506 --> 00:06:47,339 to figure out who he was. 121 00:06:47,422 --> 00:06:49,547 - After really digging into 122 00:06:49,631 --> 00:06:52,255 this Jerome Jacobson background, 123 00:06:52,339 --> 00:06:54,255 we discovered among other things that, you know, 124 00:06:54,339 --> 00:06:57,923 he had been a police officer in--in Hollywood, Florida. 125 00:06:58,005 --> 00:07:00,964 [upbeat music] 126 00:07:01,047 --> 00:07:04,422 ♪ ♪ 127 00:07:04,506 --> 00:07:06,214 - To become a police officer, 128 00:07:06,297 --> 00:07:08,839 you have to be a level-headed individual. 129 00:07:08,923 --> 00:07:14,089 Honesty and trustworthiness is paramount. 130 00:07:14,172 --> 00:07:16,089 Jerry Jacobson was a patrolman 131 00:07:16,172 --> 00:07:21,923 and, uh, he came to me in the parking lot one morning. 132 00:07:22,005 --> 00:07:24,839 At that time I was investigating the death 133 00:07:24,923 --> 00:07:26,297 of a newborn baby. 134 00:07:26,381 --> 00:07:29,839 We had no leads at all, 135 00:07:29,923 --> 00:07:34,422 and Jerry told me that he had some psychic friends 136 00:07:34,506 --> 00:07:36,089 that read about the case 137 00:07:36,172 --> 00:07:39,964 and that they were willing to assist. 138 00:07:40,047 --> 00:07:42,589 My reaction was I was grateful 139 00:07:42,673 --> 00:07:45,422 and I did take him up on the offer. 140 00:07:45,506 --> 00:07:47,798 I don't know that there's anything wrong 141 00:07:47,881 --> 00:07:50,798 having psychics as friends. 142 00:07:50,881 --> 00:07:54,547 I thought that was pretty wonderful. 143 00:07:58,839 --> 00:08:02,089 - I met Jerry at the Hollywood Police Department. 144 00:08:02,172 --> 00:08:05,255 We both were on the same squad 145 00:08:05,339 --> 00:08:07,881 and we started about the same time, 146 00:08:07,964 --> 00:08:10,464 and one day he showed up at my front door 147 00:08:10,547 --> 00:08:13,923 to inform me that my boyfriend was cheating on me. 148 00:08:14,839 --> 00:08:17,547 So that's how I met Jerry. 149 00:08:17,631 --> 00:08:19,839 [laughing] 150 00:08:19,923 --> 00:08:22,130 [dramatic music] 151 00:08:22,214 --> 00:08:24,964 We dated off and on, 152 00:08:25,047 --> 00:08:27,839 and there were some good times and some bad times, 153 00:08:27,923 --> 00:08:32,798 but, um, we got married in Tennessee. 154 00:08:32,881 --> 00:08:34,506 I think it was '81, 155 00:08:34,589 --> 00:08:38,923 and Jerry became a stepfather to my sons. 156 00:08:47,506 --> 00:08:50,839 - This big long silence isn't gonna be in there, is it? 157 00:08:50,923 --> 00:08:54,255 [laughing] 158 00:08:55,714 --> 00:08:58,381 [distant car passing] 159 00:09:05,005 --> 00:09:07,714 One day he started to shave 160 00:09:07,798 --> 00:09:11,839 and he couldn't reach all the way up to shave. 161 00:09:11,923 --> 00:09:14,297 It was difficult, 162 00:09:14,381 --> 00:09:16,255 and it was getting more difficult 163 00:09:16,339 --> 00:09:18,214 every time he tried to move. 164 00:09:18,297 --> 00:09:21,339 By noon, he couldn't lift his arms... 165 00:09:22,297 --> 00:09:24,547 He couldn't lift his arms, period, 166 00:09:24,631 --> 00:09:26,798 so I took him to the hospital. 167 00:09:26,881 --> 00:09:28,422 [distant siren blaring] 168 00:09:28,506 --> 00:09:31,547 And they ran the test for multiple sclerosis 169 00:09:31,631 --> 00:09:34,506 and Guillain-Barré and a couple of other things 170 00:09:34,589 --> 00:09:38,464 and he had the Guillain-Barré. 171 00:09:38,547 --> 00:09:40,714 He says he's got MS... 172 00:09:40,798 --> 00:09:43,589 [dramatic music] 173 00:09:43,673 --> 00:09:45,756 But technically it was Guillain-Barré 174 00:09:45,839 --> 00:09:48,964 and I--I took leave from my work 175 00:09:49,047 --> 00:09:51,255 and spent time at the hospital with him 176 00:09:51,339 --> 00:09:54,339 'cause his mother was gonna put him in a nursing home. 177 00:09:54,422 --> 00:09:57,130 ♪ ♪ 178 00:09:57,214 --> 00:10:00,464 I gave him 15 minutes a day to feel sorry for himself 179 00:10:00,547 --> 00:10:03,214 and after that 15 minutes, we're gonna work, 180 00:10:03,297 --> 00:10:05,422 'cause I felt like if we kept working, 181 00:10:05,506 --> 00:10:09,089 maybe we could stay ahead of the paralysis. 182 00:10:09,172 --> 00:10:12,422 So I fed him and gave him showers 183 00:10:12,506 --> 00:10:14,381 and walked him up and down the hall 184 00:10:14,464 --> 00:10:16,422 and all that stuff. 185 00:10:16,506 --> 00:10:20,964 ♪ ♪ 186 00:10:21,047 --> 00:10:22,839 After six or eight months, 187 00:10:22,923 --> 00:10:25,381 he finally turned around before it got 188 00:10:25,464 --> 00:10:27,464 to his respiratory system. 189 00:10:27,547 --> 00:10:29,089 It was getting there, 190 00:10:29,172 --> 00:10:31,964 but it didn't quite take over. 191 00:10:32,047 --> 00:10:34,464 So--and then the next day; 192 00:10:34,547 --> 00:10:37,631 after the next couple of days, it stabilized, 193 00:10:37,714 --> 00:10:39,881 and then started turning around a little bit. 194 00:10:39,964 --> 00:10:42,589 ♪ ♪ 195 00:10:42,673 --> 00:10:44,381 - There's always a question, 196 00:10:44,464 --> 00:10:47,547 why somebody leaves a law enforcement career early. 197 00:10:47,631 --> 00:10:49,714 Many times there's a good reason, 198 00:10:49,798 --> 00:10:51,214 but--but there's always a question. 199 00:10:51,297 --> 00:10:52,381 It's not typical. 200 00:10:52,464 --> 00:10:54,756 Um, and--and in his case, you know, 201 00:10:54,839 --> 00:10:56,422 we learned that he had, you know-- 202 00:10:56,506 --> 00:11:00,005 he had a--a condi--health condition or an accident that, 203 00:11:00,089 --> 00:11:01,464 you know, had him go out, I guess, 204 00:11:01,547 --> 00:11:03,964 on a disability. 205 00:11:04,047 --> 00:11:08,631 - He moved to Atlanta because there was a doctor in Atlanta 206 00:11:08,714 --> 00:11:12,089 or a hospital that dealt with nothing but MS. 207 00:11:12,172 --> 00:11:15,047 I think the MS really threw his life completely 208 00:11:15,130 --> 00:11:16,506 because I think he always 209 00:11:16,589 --> 00:11:19,255 wanted to be in law enforcement, 210 00:11:19,339 --> 00:11:23,130 and having the MS completely changed his life. 211 00:11:26,881 --> 00:11:28,547 [dramatic music] 212 00:11:28,631 --> 00:11:31,381 - We moved to Atlanta together. 213 00:11:31,464 --> 00:11:35,172 I got a job shortly after we came here in security. 214 00:11:35,255 --> 00:11:38,714 He started getting better... 215 00:11:38,798 --> 00:11:41,089 ♪ ♪ 216 00:11:41,172 --> 00:11:42,381 And at that point, 217 00:11:42,464 --> 00:11:45,172 he wanted to go back to work. 218 00:11:45,255 --> 00:11:49,714 Simon Marketing offered him a job working security 219 00:11:49,798 --> 00:11:52,381 for the Monopoly promotions. 220 00:11:52,464 --> 00:11:58,130 ♪ ♪ 221 00:11:58,214 --> 00:12:02,923 - We as the FBI could not and logically would not 222 00:12:03,005 --> 00:12:05,881 march into Simon Marketing 223 00:12:05,964 --> 00:12:10,297 and start asking questions about Jerry and that process. 224 00:12:10,381 --> 00:12:13,631 You know, generally when the FBI starts asking questions, 225 00:12:13,714 --> 00:12:15,714 people, you know-- people get-- 226 00:12:15,798 --> 00:12:18,381 get a little spun up and wonder, really, why. 227 00:12:18,464 --> 00:12:22,255 - We were working hand in hand with McDonald's 228 00:12:22,339 --> 00:12:28,005 just trying to figure out how much they knew 229 00:12:28,089 --> 00:12:29,464 about Simon Marketing. 230 00:12:29,547 --> 00:12:32,631 Surprisingly, McDonald's didn't know much 231 00:12:32,714 --> 00:12:36,255 about the process that Simon Marketing went through 232 00:12:36,339 --> 00:12:39,089 with their promotional games. 233 00:12:39,172 --> 00:12:42,464 - I wasn't familiar with Simon Marketing at all 234 00:12:42,547 --> 00:12:45,047 until this investigation began. 235 00:12:45,130 --> 00:12:46,589 After that meeting with the FBI, 236 00:12:46,673 --> 00:12:49,339 I realized that I needed to learn a little bit more 237 00:12:49,422 --> 00:12:51,464 about Simon Marketing and the promotion, 238 00:12:51,547 --> 00:12:54,422 so I set up a meeting with Simon Marketing 239 00:12:54,506 --> 00:12:57,589 under the guise of trying to learn how 240 00:12:57,673 --> 00:13:00,464 the security procedures were in place. 241 00:13:00,547 --> 00:13:02,089 [dramatic music] 242 00:13:02,172 --> 00:13:04,589 - We were able to enlist McDonald's 243 00:13:04,673 --> 00:13:07,339 to do these inquiries on our behalf, 244 00:13:07,422 --> 00:13:09,881 but I think also on their behalf, too. 245 00:13:13,673 --> 00:13:14,631 - Yeah, yeah, no. 246 00:13:14,714 --> 00:13:15,673 We--we would--we would have 247 00:13:15,756 --> 00:13:17,422 not told McDonald's. 248 00:13:17,506 --> 00:13:19,589 Because if we're wrong, 249 00:13:19,673 --> 00:13:22,130 we've--we've sullied somebody's reputation 250 00:13:22,214 --> 00:13:24,798 for no good reason. 251 00:13:24,881 --> 00:13:27,631 - I don't know how much he was making at Simon. 252 00:13:27,714 --> 00:13:29,297 His wife was working. 253 00:13:29,381 --> 00:13:31,881 I don't know if he needed the money. 254 00:13:36,714 --> 00:13:38,631 - No, I think he said he has a contact 255 00:13:38,714 --> 00:13:40,005 to get them or something. 256 00:13:40,089 --> 00:13:42,130 I think it was contact. It was not him. 257 00:13:42,214 --> 00:13:43,255 It was not him. 258 00:13:43,339 --> 00:13:45,214 It was not him. 259 00:13:46,339 --> 00:13:47,547 - He--go ahead. I'm-- 260 00:13:48,547 --> 00:13:50,881 - He--he--he gave me the idea 261 00:13:50,964 --> 00:13:53,005 it was not him stealing the tickets, 262 00:13:53,089 --> 00:13:56,214 that he had a contact how to get the tickets. 263 00:13:56,297 --> 00:14:00,005 I was under the impression Jerry was the security for it. 264 00:14:00,089 --> 00:14:01,005 In other words, 265 00:14:01,089 --> 00:14:04,297 that another person was taking the tickets 266 00:14:04,381 --> 00:14:06,547 or whatever. I wasn't sure. 267 00:14:06,631 --> 00:14:09,005 I thought Jerry was security. 268 00:14:09,089 --> 00:14:11,881 [tense music] 269 00:14:11,964 --> 00:14:13,756 - When I met with Simon Marketing, 270 00:14:13,839 --> 00:14:15,631 we went through the security procedures 271 00:14:15,714 --> 00:14:18,589 and the procedures at the printing press. 272 00:14:18,673 --> 00:14:21,381 They actually had a very thorough 273 00:14:21,464 --> 00:14:25,005 and comprehensive operation for ensuring the security 274 00:14:25,089 --> 00:14:27,339 and integrity of their-- of our game pieces, 275 00:14:27,422 --> 00:14:29,798 so I was very pleased with what I saw. 276 00:14:29,881 --> 00:14:31,547 ♪ ♪ 277 00:14:31,631 --> 00:14:33,673 - McDonald's reports that at the facility there, 278 00:14:33,756 --> 00:14:36,839 it was incredibly secure and that this idea 279 00:14:36,923 --> 00:14:38,673 that--that things are--are loose 280 00:14:38,756 --> 00:14:40,464 or that they could walk right out of there 281 00:14:40,547 --> 00:14:43,089 was--was, you know, almost impossible. 282 00:14:43,172 --> 00:14:46,381 Highly un--highly, highly unlikely. 283 00:14:46,464 --> 00:14:49,506 The obvious question was how this whole process worked. 284 00:14:49,589 --> 00:14:54,214 How were--how were game pieces printed, distributed? 285 00:14:54,297 --> 00:14:58,464 - Simon Marketing had these game pieces made 286 00:14:58,547 --> 00:15:00,714 just north of Atlanta 287 00:15:00,798 --> 00:15:03,964 by a secure printing business. 288 00:15:04,047 --> 00:15:07,172 ♪ ♪ 289 00:15:08,923 --> 00:15:11,881 [country music] 290 00:15:11,964 --> 00:15:17,089 ♪ ♪ 291 00:15:17,172 --> 00:15:18,422 - My name is Jack Sisk. 292 00:15:18,506 --> 00:15:21,339 I actually was working in security at Dittler 293 00:15:21,422 --> 00:15:24,464 when--for around 15 years, actually. 294 00:15:24,547 --> 00:15:26,089 - My name's Perry Pealock, 295 00:15:26,172 --> 00:15:27,756 and I was the bindery supervisor. 296 00:15:27,839 --> 00:15:30,923 - Name's Doyle Grant, and I was shipping clerk. 297 00:15:31,005 --> 00:15:34,547 - My name's Gilben Peeples, and I was the parch clerk 298 00:15:34,631 --> 00:15:36,631 in the maintenance department. 299 00:15:36,714 --> 00:15:38,422 - Dittler Brothers Printing 300 00:15:38,506 --> 00:15:41,422 was a very secure printing company, 301 00:15:41,506 --> 00:15:44,255 and that's how we got into the lottery business 302 00:15:44,339 --> 00:15:47,714 and into scratch-off games. 303 00:15:47,798 --> 00:15:49,422 - And I think that's one of the reasons 304 00:15:49,506 --> 00:15:51,339 that we got the U.S. postage stamp job 305 00:15:51,422 --> 00:15:53,297 because the federal government said, 306 00:15:53,381 --> 00:15:54,839 "Hey, this place is really secure," 307 00:15:54,923 --> 00:15:56,756 'cause we got that and it went real well. 308 00:15:56,839 --> 00:15:58,547 - And then it grew from there. 309 00:15:58,631 --> 00:15:59,756 You know, three or four years, 310 00:15:59,839 --> 00:16:02,130 and McDonald's millions and millions of dollars 311 00:16:02,214 --> 00:16:04,589 to pay to print all this stuff. 312 00:16:04,673 --> 00:16:06,422 - I was the director of security 313 00:16:06,506 --> 00:16:11,923 for Dittler Brothers between 1987 and 2000, 314 00:16:12,005 --> 00:16:15,464 and I worked with Jerry when they were running Monopoly 315 00:16:15,547 --> 00:16:19,005 because Simon and Dittler were real close. 316 00:16:19,381 --> 00:16:22,339 [dramatic music] 317 00:16:22,422 --> 00:16:23,631 ♪ ♪ 318 00:16:23,714 --> 00:16:28,172 - We had people in Dittler Brothers 24 hours. 319 00:16:28,255 --> 00:16:31,130 The Dittler Brothers facility was very secure. 320 00:16:31,214 --> 00:16:33,547 You had to go through a guard shack 321 00:16:33,631 --> 00:16:34,673 to get into the facility, 322 00:16:34,756 --> 00:16:35,798 you had to sign in when 323 00:16:35,881 --> 00:16:36,923 you got into the facility, 324 00:16:37,005 --> 00:16:38,422 then you had to go through 325 00:16:38,506 --> 00:16:40,339 another guard to get into the room 326 00:16:40,422 --> 00:16:42,964 where the state lotteries are being produced 327 00:16:43,047 --> 00:16:46,130 along with our game pieces. 328 00:16:46,214 --> 00:16:48,172 - When Monopoly was running, 329 00:16:48,255 --> 00:16:50,005 it would just about take 330 00:16:50,089 --> 00:16:51,589 everything in the plant running, 331 00:16:51,673 --> 00:16:53,172 it would get so big. 332 00:16:53,255 --> 00:16:56,839 That was our largest customer by a long shot. 333 00:16:56,923 --> 00:16:58,547 You're talking hundreds of millions 334 00:16:58,631 --> 00:17:00,339 of game pieces, you know. 335 00:17:00,422 --> 00:17:03,464 - When we did press runs of winners, 336 00:17:03,547 --> 00:17:05,547 we pretty much surrounded the press. 337 00:17:05,631 --> 00:17:06,589 They had alarm systems. 338 00:17:06,673 --> 00:17:08,089 They had cameras. 339 00:17:08,172 --> 00:17:09,839 The gate was opened and it wasn't us, 340 00:17:09,923 --> 00:17:11,381 alarm would go off. 341 00:17:11,464 --> 00:17:12,422 - Well, we had a big vault 342 00:17:12,506 --> 00:17:14,089 we had the winners in. 343 00:17:14,172 --> 00:17:15,881 ♪ ♪ 344 00:17:15,964 --> 00:17:17,631 - There were two locks. 345 00:17:17,714 --> 00:17:21,005 It's almost like, you know, back in the Cold War, 346 00:17:21,089 --> 00:17:23,297 you'd have two people in a missile silo, 347 00:17:23,381 --> 00:17:24,673 and it takes two. 348 00:17:24,756 --> 00:17:27,673 - Jerry was in there for Simon 349 00:17:27,756 --> 00:17:30,047 to make sure that Dittler Brothers 350 00:17:30,130 --> 00:17:31,589 were doing their jobs. 351 00:17:31,673 --> 00:17:35,589 Jerry would stand behind and look over their shoulder 352 00:17:35,673 --> 00:17:37,673 and get their combination. 353 00:17:37,756 --> 00:17:41,631 Then he would raise holy hell 354 00:17:41,714 --> 00:17:43,631 because we allowed him to do that. 355 00:17:45,464 --> 00:17:47,881 - All the game pieces that were produced 356 00:17:47,964 --> 00:17:50,047 by Dittler Brothers were loaded on trucks. 357 00:17:50,130 --> 00:17:53,214 - Security would actually physically lock 358 00:17:53,297 --> 00:17:54,714 the back of the truck. 359 00:17:54,798 --> 00:17:56,089 - Once that truck left, 360 00:17:56,172 --> 00:17:58,172 we normally would get on an airplane, 361 00:17:58,255 --> 00:17:59,547 fly to that city, 362 00:17:59,631 --> 00:18:01,089 and meet the truck the next morning 363 00:18:01,172 --> 00:18:03,381 to unlock it, break the seal, 364 00:18:03,464 --> 00:18:07,047 verify what was loaded. 365 00:18:07,130 --> 00:18:08,422 - My name's Brian Litteral. 366 00:18:08,506 --> 00:18:11,381 I worked security/quality control 367 00:18:11,464 --> 00:18:14,631 for the games that McDonald's usually ran. 368 00:18:14,714 --> 00:18:16,589 We would bring the labels out-- 369 00:18:16,673 --> 00:18:18,255 free drinks, free fries-- 370 00:18:18,339 --> 00:18:20,756 and the two pieces would assemble together, 371 00:18:20,839 --> 00:18:22,714 the label on top of the cup. 372 00:18:22,798 --> 00:18:24,631 [dramatic music] 373 00:18:24,714 --> 00:18:28,089 The higher-level winners was done by a completely different 374 00:18:28,172 --> 00:18:29,881 more secure process. 375 00:18:29,964 --> 00:18:33,714 I would usually get a call saying that Jerry was gonna be 376 00:18:33,798 --> 00:18:36,714 coming in with, uh, an independent auditor. 377 00:18:36,798 --> 00:18:38,756 ♪ ♪ 378 00:18:38,839 --> 00:18:40,631 - Dittler Security has to be there, 379 00:18:40,714 --> 00:18:42,422 Simon has to be there, 380 00:18:42,506 --> 00:18:44,005 the auditor has to be there, 381 00:18:44,089 --> 00:18:46,881 and the customer service rep has to be there, 382 00:18:46,964 --> 00:18:49,589 and they all witnessed the winner run. 383 00:18:49,673 --> 00:18:52,422 - The auditor would unlock the suitcase. 384 00:18:52,506 --> 00:18:53,964 There was an envelope inside 385 00:18:54,047 --> 00:18:55,923 with signatures across the seal 386 00:18:56,005 --> 00:18:58,798 to make sure that it was still the same contents 387 00:18:58,881 --> 00:19:00,214 as to when it was packaged, 388 00:19:00,297 --> 00:19:01,673 and inside there, 389 00:19:01,756 --> 00:19:03,756 there would be a certain number of seeds. 390 00:19:03,839 --> 00:19:05,631 This is what a seed would look like, 391 00:19:05,714 --> 00:19:06,964 one of which was a high-level winner. 392 00:19:07,047 --> 00:19:08,130 The rest were commons, 393 00:19:08,214 --> 00:19:09,464 and then I would insert them 394 00:19:09,547 --> 00:19:11,464 in various production lines. 395 00:19:11,547 --> 00:19:13,130 - No one knew, 396 00:19:13,214 --> 00:19:14,798 and no one was supposed to know, 397 00:19:14,881 --> 00:19:17,422 where the high-level winner was. 398 00:19:17,506 --> 00:19:20,297 ♪ ♪ 399 00:19:20,381 --> 00:19:22,255 - So you go into the McDonald's, 400 00:19:22,339 --> 00:19:24,005 you open up the game piece, 401 00:19:24,089 --> 00:19:26,422 and maybe you're a instant $1 million winner. 402 00:19:26,506 --> 00:19:28,756 - I won! - I won! 403 00:19:28,839 --> 00:19:31,297 - And so when these game pieces got 404 00:19:31,381 --> 00:19:34,005 to the Simon Marketing redemption center, 405 00:19:34,089 --> 00:19:36,005 and it goes through the process of, 406 00:19:36,089 --> 00:19:37,673 "Do we have a real winner..." 407 00:19:37,756 --> 00:19:41,464 ♪ ♪ 408 00:19:41,547 --> 00:19:45,631 They literally would be opened by a person with gloves-- 409 00:19:45,714 --> 00:19:48,547 it is all being recorded-- 410 00:19:48,631 --> 00:19:52,130 and there would always be an error made 411 00:19:52,214 --> 00:19:54,047 in the winning game piece. 412 00:19:54,130 --> 00:19:56,839 Say, on one corner there's a little chip 413 00:19:56,923 --> 00:19:58,172 out of the word. 414 00:19:58,255 --> 00:20:02,881 - We also write on the $1 million winner 415 00:20:02,964 --> 00:20:06,297 a little code on there with a--a black light pen 416 00:20:06,381 --> 00:20:07,714 that you can't see. 417 00:20:07,798 --> 00:20:10,631 So if you show up with a piece 418 00:20:10,714 --> 00:20:12,547 that doesn't have the code on it, 419 00:20:12,631 --> 00:20:15,631 you're gonna get caught real soon. 420 00:20:15,714 --> 00:20:18,047 ♪ ♪ 421 00:20:18,130 --> 00:20:20,464 - We were always a little bit overboard 422 00:20:20,547 --> 00:20:23,673 but, uh, you know, we protected McDonald's, 423 00:20:23,756 --> 00:20:26,547 and--and I think that's a major reason they used us, 424 00:20:26,631 --> 00:20:28,673 and, uh, of course Jerry was in there 425 00:20:28,756 --> 00:20:31,506 sort of telling them how it needed to be built. 426 00:20:35,130 --> 00:20:36,464 - Everybody liked Jerry. 427 00:20:36,547 --> 00:20:38,214 I mean, everybody in the office liked Jerry. 428 00:20:38,297 --> 00:20:40,881 He wasn't real flashy. 429 00:20:40,964 --> 00:20:42,881 We always had Thanksgiving. 430 00:20:42,964 --> 00:20:46,422 Everybody sort of brought in a potluck at Thanksgiving, 431 00:20:46,506 --> 00:20:48,547 and Jerry always brought in ribs, 432 00:20:48,631 --> 00:20:51,047 and his ribs were delicious. 433 00:20:51,130 --> 00:20:53,422 They would just fall off the bone, you know? 434 00:20:53,506 --> 00:20:55,172 So everybody looked forward to his ribs, 435 00:20:55,255 --> 00:20:59,297 but, uh, he didn't seem to be big-headed at all. 436 00:20:59,381 --> 00:21:01,172 - And he was always very generous. 437 00:21:01,255 --> 00:21:03,089 If he made ribs for himself, 438 00:21:03,172 --> 00:21:05,464 he would make them for the whole office. 439 00:21:05,547 --> 00:21:09,130 Jerry was--he's a generous fellow. 440 00:21:09,214 --> 00:21:10,547 We got divorced, 441 00:21:10,631 --> 00:21:13,756 and even when he was married again 442 00:21:13,839 --> 00:21:15,673 and I needed something, 443 00:21:15,756 --> 00:21:17,923 he would be right there. 444 00:21:18,005 --> 00:21:21,047 There's nothing stingy about him at all. 445 00:21:21,130 --> 00:21:22,297 After we got divorced, 446 00:21:22,381 --> 00:21:25,422 it was like even though he was the head 447 00:21:25,506 --> 00:21:26,964 of security for Simon, 448 00:21:27,047 --> 00:21:30,214 he still worked under my guidelines 449 00:21:30,297 --> 00:21:32,255 in Dittler Brothers. 450 00:21:32,339 --> 00:21:33,839 I told him if he stole anything, 451 00:21:33,923 --> 00:21:37,130 I'd kill him. [laughs] 452 00:21:37,214 --> 00:21:40,214 [dramatic music] 453 00:21:40,297 --> 00:21:46,339 ♪ ♪ 454 00:21:50,047 --> 00:21:51,964 - Exciting. I'm not gonna lie. 455 00:21:52,047 --> 00:21:53,589 It was exciting and everything else, 456 00:21:53,673 --> 00:21:56,047 and, uh, you know, I deposited it, 457 00:21:56,130 --> 00:21:59,005 and we split it. 458 00:21:59,089 --> 00:22:00,547 Down the road, 459 00:22:00,631 --> 00:22:02,255 he came to me and he said that 460 00:22:02,339 --> 00:22:04,881 he could do bigger pieces. 461 00:22:04,964 --> 00:22:09,255 I--I'd not cashed in anything but a $25,000 ticket, 462 00:22:09,339 --> 00:22:12,047 and I didn't want any parts of them. 463 00:22:12,130 --> 00:22:14,381 At that time, 464 00:22:14,464 --> 00:22:17,339 I was going to New York, like, every Tuesday morning 465 00:22:17,422 --> 00:22:19,297 and coming home every Wednesday night. 466 00:22:19,381 --> 00:22:22,005 I was buying maternity clothes in New York 467 00:22:22,089 --> 00:22:23,839 for my maternity shop. 468 00:22:23,923 --> 00:22:26,631 So I approached two people who 469 00:22:26,714 --> 00:22:28,172 were manufacturers in New York 470 00:22:28,255 --> 00:22:31,923 that I dealt with for many, many, many years 471 00:22:32,005 --> 00:22:34,464 and I approached them if they would be interested 472 00:22:34,547 --> 00:22:36,923 in possibly doing a deal with Jerry. 473 00:22:38,714 --> 00:22:40,547 - I'd rather not mention names. 474 00:22:46,089 --> 00:22:47,673 - No. There we--I'm pretty s-- 475 00:22:47,756 --> 00:22:51,005 well, maybe his nieces and nephews. 476 00:22:51,089 --> 00:22:54,339 [laughing] 477 00:22:54,422 --> 00:22:58,631 No, I never heard anybody refer to him as Uncle Jerry. 478 00:22:58,714 --> 00:23:01,589 [dramatic music] 479 00:23:01,673 --> 00:23:03,214 - For a while, 480 00:23:03,297 --> 00:23:05,339 the question was, "Well, who is Uncle Jerry?" 481 00:23:05,422 --> 00:23:08,589 Oh, well there's a Jerry Jacobson working at Simon. 482 00:23:08,673 --> 00:23:11,547 That must be Uncle Jerry. 483 00:23:11,631 --> 00:23:14,923 But there was always this inference maybe that 484 00:23:15,005 --> 00:23:18,923 Uncle Jerry was--was somehow connected to organized crime-- 485 00:23:19,005 --> 00:23:20,881 Italian organized crime 486 00:23:20,964 --> 00:23:24,881 because the Uncle connotation gives this kind of 487 00:23:24,964 --> 00:23:29,297 almost like a, you know, Godfather-ish sort of moniker. 488 00:23:29,381 --> 00:23:31,381 ♪ ♪ 489 00:23:31,464 --> 00:23:34,422 And we found out that there was another Jerry 490 00:23:34,506 --> 00:23:39,881 involved in this named Jerry Colombo. 491 00:23:39,964 --> 00:23:42,631 - People everywhere are winning big 492 00:23:42,714 --> 00:23:44,923 playing the Monopoly game at McDonald's. 493 00:23:45,005 --> 00:23:46,923 Jerry Colombo won a Dodge Viper, 494 00:23:47,005 --> 00:23:50,047 and there are two $1 million prizes left. 495 00:23:50,130 --> 00:23:51,339 - My name is Frank Colombo. 496 00:23:51,422 --> 00:23:54,297 I'm brother of "Jerry" Gennaro Colombo. 497 00:23:54,381 --> 00:23:55,714 - And I'm Heather Colombo, 498 00:23:55,798 --> 00:23:59,047 and I am Frank Colombo's wife. 499 00:23:59,130 --> 00:24:01,381 - I really wanted him to keep the car. 500 00:24:01,464 --> 00:24:03,005 You know, I was, you know, a young guy. 501 00:24:03,089 --> 00:24:05,255 Like, hey, a Dodge Viper? That'd be pretty damn cool. 502 00:24:05,339 --> 00:24:06,172 Can I borrow it? 503 00:24:06,255 --> 00:24:08,422 Uh, but it was too small. 504 00:24:08,506 --> 00:24:09,464 I mean, he was a big guy. 505 00:24:09,547 --> 00:24:10,923 Um, but it was kinda funny 506 00:24:11,005 --> 00:24:12,839 'cause all off--all of my friends were calling me, 507 00:24:12,923 --> 00:24:14,422 "Hey, your brother won-- won the car. 508 00:24:14,506 --> 00:24:15,464 Oh, my God!" 509 00:24:15,547 --> 00:24:16,589 And I'm sitting go--laughing 510 00:24:16,673 --> 00:24:17,923 in the back of my head going, 511 00:24:18,005 --> 00:24:19,381 "Yeah, okay, he won the car. Sure." 512 00:24:19,464 --> 00:24:21,130 You know, it was kinda-- it was just amusing 513 00:24:21,214 --> 00:24:23,547 that people believed it. 514 00:24:23,631 --> 00:24:24,506 It worked. 515 00:24:24,589 --> 00:24:26,089 [both laughing] 516 00:24:26,172 --> 00:24:29,130 [dramatic music] 517 00:24:29,214 --> 00:24:36,255 ♪ ♪ 518 00:24:44,381 --> 00:24:45,839 - I'm Robin Colombo. 519 00:24:45,923 --> 00:24:49,589 My husband is Jerry Colombo-- Gennaro Colombo. 520 00:24:49,673 --> 00:24:51,798 ♪ ♪ 521 00:24:51,881 --> 00:24:54,714 He was part of the Colombo crime family. 522 00:24:54,798 --> 00:24:58,506 ♪ ♪ 523 00:24:58,589 --> 00:25:03,089 That commercial, that almost cost him his life, 524 00:25:03,172 --> 00:25:05,714 because he wasn't supposed to do a commercial. 525 00:25:12,089 --> 00:25:14,172 - Because he's a ham. 526 00:25:14,255 --> 00:25:16,005 He was even gonna be in a movie 527 00:25:16,089 --> 00:25:18,673 with Jackie Chan, as a matter of fact. 528 00:25:18,756 --> 00:25:21,839 I said, "What? That don't even sound right. 529 00:25:21,923 --> 00:25:26,673 You, a big-ass Sicilian, and a Chinaman, 530 00:25:26,756 --> 00:25:30,506 in a western? I said, "Oh, my God." 531 00:25:30,589 --> 00:25:34,005 And it was that "Shanghai Noon--Night," 532 00:25:34,089 --> 00:25:37,506 whatever it is. It was that. 533 00:25:37,589 --> 00:25:40,756 - Ma, come get this dog outta here. 534 00:25:40,839 --> 00:25:44,297 - The Sicilian culture, of course, is family first 535 00:25:44,381 --> 00:25:46,047 no matter what, 536 00:25:46,130 --> 00:25:47,923 but when I met her, 537 00:25:48,005 --> 00:25:49,547 I didn't want her to know my last name, 538 00:25:49,631 --> 00:25:53,047 'cause I wanted her to know me and not my family. 539 00:25:53,130 --> 00:25:54,506 - As a matter of fact, 540 00:25:54,589 --> 00:25:56,506 for the first three to four months, 541 00:25:56,589 --> 00:25:58,297 I didn't even know his name. 542 00:25:58,381 --> 00:26:00,881 He would go by a completely different name, 543 00:26:00,964 --> 00:26:03,881 and only did I see a bracelet on his wrist one day 544 00:26:03,964 --> 00:26:07,255 and I questioned him on the name that said Frank C. 545 00:26:07,339 --> 00:26:08,798 I mean, this is entirely different 546 00:26:08,881 --> 00:26:10,089 from the name that he gave me. 547 00:26:10,172 --> 00:26:14,005 - Yes, uh, she--I went by Tony Ayanatti. 548 00:26:14,089 --> 00:26:16,422 [both laughing] 549 00:26:16,506 --> 00:26:18,047 I kinda keep that in the background, you know? 550 00:26:18,130 --> 00:26:22,297 Not too many people know who my family is until now. 551 00:26:22,381 --> 00:26:23,714 [upbeat music] 552 00:26:23,798 --> 00:26:25,422 - Five families have run New York's 553 00:26:25,506 --> 00:26:26,881 Italian-American mafia. 554 00:26:26,964 --> 00:26:28,047 The names are familiar: 555 00:26:28,130 --> 00:26:29,881 Bonanno, Gambino, Genovese, 556 00:26:29,964 --> 00:26:32,339 Lucchese, and Colombo. 557 00:26:32,422 --> 00:26:34,214 - Police in Brooklyn pulled a man's body 558 00:26:34,297 --> 00:26:36,714 out of the water duct-taped inside a blue tarp. 559 00:26:36,798 --> 00:26:39,297 Police say someone also tied a cinder block 560 00:26:39,381 --> 00:26:40,673 to the victim's ankles. 561 00:26:40,756 --> 00:26:42,506 - My name is Joe Colombo. 562 00:26:42,589 --> 00:26:44,839 I should be treated the same as anybody else. 563 00:26:44,923 --> 00:26:46,422 - Joe Colombo: 564 00:26:46,506 --> 00:26:48,714 real estate broker, mafia boss, 565 00:26:48,798 --> 00:26:50,255 and one of the biggest con men 566 00:26:50,339 --> 00:26:52,589 in the history of organized crime. 567 00:26:52,673 --> 00:26:54,964 - What was your reaction when you learned that this shooting 568 00:26:55,047 --> 00:26:56,422 had occurred at the Colombos'? 569 00:26:56,506 --> 00:26:59,005 - I just heard, like, shots-- about eight shots, 570 00:26:59,089 --> 00:27:00,589 and it's--I didn't think they were shots. 571 00:27:00,673 --> 00:27:02,214 I thought they were firecrackers. 572 00:27:02,297 --> 00:27:04,881 - His high profile caused rival mob bosses 573 00:27:04,964 --> 00:27:06,089 to okay his murder. 574 00:27:06,172 --> 00:27:07,381 - The man some called 575 00:27:07,464 --> 00:27:08,631 an underworld boss. 576 00:27:08,714 --> 00:27:10,881 ♪ ♪ 577 00:27:10,964 --> 00:27:13,297 - My brother wasn't the normal, you know-- 578 00:27:13,381 --> 00:27:15,297 when you want "The Sopranos," you know, 579 00:27:15,381 --> 00:27:17,839 and he's, uh--the guy's talking to them, you know, 580 00:27:17,923 --> 00:27:19,130 all, "Hey, forget about it," 581 00:27:19,214 --> 00:27:20,464 and all this kind of nonsense. 582 00:27:20,547 --> 00:27:21,923 - Forget about it. - Forget about it. 583 00:27:22,005 --> 00:27:23,381 - Ah, forget about it. 584 00:27:23,464 --> 00:27:24,464 - Forget about it. 585 00:27:24,547 --> 00:27:30,047 - [screaming] [blows landing] 586 00:27:30,130 --> 00:27:31,422 - That's--that's the movies. 587 00:27:31,506 --> 00:27:34,297 Now, did he do things like that? 588 00:27:34,381 --> 00:27:36,673 Absolutely, you know? 589 00:27:36,756 --> 00:27:39,464 But he did it with humor. 590 00:27:39,547 --> 00:27:40,964 You know, more like, I guess-- 591 00:27:41,047 --> 00:27:44,130 I guess if you got, uh, Marlon Brando and Joe Pesci 592 00:27:44,214 --> 00:27:45,339 and put them together, 593 00:27:45,422 --> 00:27:46,714 you'd probably end up with my brother. 594 00:27:46,798 --> 00:27:47,798 [both laughing] 595 00:27:47,881 --> 00:27:50,130 You know? That's pretty much it. 596 00:27:50,214 --> 00:27:51,214 - That was it. 597 00:27:51,297 --> 00:27:52,964 - Uh, now that I think about this, 598 00:27:53,047 --> 00:27:57,005 if you got Al Capone and Rodney Dangerfield 599 00:27:57,089 --> 00:27:58,923 and mashed them together, 600 00:27:59,005 --> 00:28:02,214 you get my brother. I think that's a good analogy. 601 00:28:03,130 --> 00:28:06,089 [upbeat music] 602 00:28:06,172 --> 00:28:08,673 ♪ ♪ 603 00:28:08,756 --> 00:28:10,673 - The first time I met Jerry, 604 00:28:10,756 --> 00:28:12,547 we looked at each other, 605 00:28:12,631 --> 00:28:18,506 and it was like the chemistry between us was crazy. 606 00:28:18,589 --> 00:28:20,839 Um, like you see in a cartoon, you know, 607 00:28:20,923 --> 00:28:23,255 everything like, "Boom, boom." 608 00:28:23,339 --> 00:28:25,673 I was having a long-distance relationship 609 00:28:25,756 --> 00:28:27,130 with a federal agent. 610 00:28:27,214 --> 00:28:29,339 It was not that fun. 611 00:28:29,422 --> 00:28:31,923 And, um, Jerry was fun, 612 00:28:32,005 --> 00:28:35,005 so I chose him. 613 00:28:35,089 --> 00:28:38,214 My father was military and strict. 614 00:28:38,297 --> 00:28:40,047 Very strict. 615 00:28:40,130 --> 00:28:42,047 So, yeah, that didn't go over so well, 616 00:28:42,130 --> 00:28:44,047 but I didn't care. 617 00:28:44,130 --> 00:28:46,130 - [singing in foreign language] 618 00:28:46,214 --> 00:28:48,881 - I rebelled. 619 00:28:48,964 --> 00:28:50,798 - [singing in foreign language] 620 00:28:50,881 --> 00:28:53,714 - We were married in Panama City, Florida. 621 00:28:53,798 --> 00:28:57,547 It wasn't as extravagant as you would think 622 00:28:57,631 --> 00:28:59,422 because I was pregnant, 623 00:28:59,506 --> 00:29:01,172 so no Catholic wedding. 624 00:29:01,255 --> 00:29:06,172 - [singing in foreign language] 625 00:29:06,255 --> 00:29:08,047 - My brother Jerry had his hands 626 00:29:08,130 --> 00:29:10,047 in a lot of different avenues. 627 00:29:10,130 --> 00:29:13,422 He had some, uh, bookieing things that he was doing 628 00:29:13,506 --> 00:29:15,047 with bookies and what have you. 629 00:29:15,130 --> 00:29:19,089 Uh, he was in charge of, uh, security at the Taj Mahal 630 00:29:19,172 --> 00:29:20,089 for a few years. 631 00:29:20,172 --> 00:29:21,506 Uh, that was the old, 632 00:29:21,589 --> 00:29:22,714 uh, Trump Taj Mahal. 633 00:29:22,798 --> 00:29:25,547 Uh, he would gamble and, uh, 634 00:29:25,631 --> 00:29:27,172 he would win a lot. 635 00:29:27,255 --> 00:29:29,506 I don't know if it was--that was rigged as well. 636 00:29:29,589 --> 00:29:31,756 Possibly. Everything's rigged in life. 637 00:29:31,839 --> 00:29:33,798 - Trust nothing anymore. - Yeah. 638 00:29:33,881 --> 00:29:36,381 He was always looking at a way 639 00:29:36,464 --> 00:29:40,422 to make some good easy money. 640 00:29:40,506 --> 00:29:44,339 - You know we had the little gray M&M as well. 641 00:29:44,422 --> 00:29:45,506 Did you know that? 642 00:29:45,589 --> 00:29:48,255 Okay, I used to smoke a half a joint a night. 643 00:29:48,339 --> 00:29:50,172 I needed to relax. 644 00:29:50,255 --> 00:29:51,964 I need to put on something funny 645 00:29:52,047 --> 00:29:53,506 and just let me chill. 646 00:29:53,589 --> 00:29:54,964 [laughs] 647 00:29:55,047 --> 00:29:56,381 Well... 648 00:29:57,172 --> 00:29:59,422 When I would wake up in the middle of the night, 649 00:29:59,506 --> 00:30:00,798 I had to have something sweet, 650 00:30:00,881 --> 00:30:03,881 so I had Reese's cups down in the kitchen, right? 651 00:30:03,964 --> 00:30:08,130 So he had to let me know there was a gray M&M 652 00:30:08,214 --> 00:30:11,547 wrapped in aluminum foil and he told me, 653 00:30:11,631 --> 00:30:12,631 "Don't touch it." 654 00:30:12,714 --> 00:30:13,714 - The rules say if you find 655 00:30:13,798 --> 00:30:14,923 the gray imposter M&M's, 656 00:30:15,005 --> 00:30:16,798 the winning bag could be worth 657 00:30:16,881 --> 00:30:18,005 $1 million! 658 00:30:18,089 --> 00:30:19,130 - Show me the money! 659 00:30:19,214 --> 00:30:21,631 - And then, um, he says, 660 00:30:21,714 --> 00:30:25,214 "You're also gonna win a Publishers Clearing House," 661 00:30:25,297 --> 00:30:26,798 where they come to your door and knock. 662 00:30:26,881 --> 00:30:28,214 - You have won $1 million 663 00:30:28,297 --> 00:30:29,297 from Publishers Clearing House. 664 00:30:29,381 --> 00:30:30,297 - I can't believe it! 665 00:30:30,381 --> 00:30:31,297 - This is the truth! 666 00:30:31,381 --> 00:30:32,756 - Real people really win 667 00:30:32,839 --> 00:30:34,631 the Publishers Clearing House sweepstakes. 668 00:30:34,714 --> 00:30:37,047 - They're probably gonna say, "Oh, bullshit." 669 00:30:37,130 --> 00:30:38,964 You know, all that, but I'm just telling you 670 00:30:39,047 --> 00:30:40,631 what my husband told me. 671 00:30:40,714 --> 00:30:42,631 ♪ ♪ 672 00:30:42,714 --> 00:30:45,130 Jerry wanted something big. 673 00:30:45,214 --> 00:30:46,339 He kept threatening, 674 00:30:46,422 --> 00:30:48,422 "You know, I can go work for my uncles 675 00:30:48,506 --> 00:30:49,547 up in New York," you know? 676 00:30:49,631 --> 00:30:51,464 I'm like, "Well, you know what? 677 00:30:51,547 --> 00:30:53,464 I think it's time." [laughs] 678 00:30:53,547 --> 00:30:56,839 You know, you can spend too much time with somebody 679 00:30:56,923 --> 00:30:59,589 and you don't play golf and, um, 680 00:30:59,673 --> 00:31:02,172 I mean, the only golf club he had was about this big 681 00:31:02,255 --> 00:31:03,714 and that was, well... 682 00:31:04,923 --> 00:31:05,839 [blow lands] 683 00:31:05,923 --> 00:31:07,547 [upbeat music] 684 00:31:07,631 --> 00:31:12,130 So he went up north and he got with Uncle Dominic 685 00:31:12,214 --> 00:31:13,881 who was a Godfather. 686 00:31:16,881 --> 00:31:20,339 - No, they call that out of respect. 687 00:31:20,422 --> 00:31:23,047 He wasn't an actual uncle, 688 00:31:23,130 --> 00:31:25,714 but he loved my husband 689 00:31:25,798 --> 00:31:28,589 because my husband was old school 690 00:31:28,673 --> 00:31:31,047 full-blooded Sicilian. 691 00:31:31,130 --> 00:31:33,673 He was hooking him up with everything. 692 00:31:36,756 --> 00:31:39,339 - My name's Jennifer Ethridge. 693 00:31:39,422 --> 00:31:40,881 Robin Colombo's my mother. 694 00:31:40,964 --> 00:31:43,381 Jerry Colombo is my stepfather. 695 00:31:43,464 --> 00:31:45,339 You couldn't help not to like him, 696 00:31:45,422 --> 00:31:47,881 and especially with, um, you know, 697 00:31:47,964 --> 00:31:51,506 his "career" that he was into. 698 00:31:51,589 --> 00:31:53,839 Um, it was definitely intriguing. 699 00:31:53,923 --> 00:31:55,839 At the time, you know, he would show me 700 00:31:55,923 --> 00:31:58,172 duffle bags of money and whip it out. 701 00:31:58,255 --> 00:31:59,839 "Oh, here you go. Go buy you something nice." 702 00:31:59,923 --> 00:32:00,798 You know? 703 00:32:00,881 --> 00:32:02,214 And then I'd say 704 00:32:02,297 --> 00:32:04,214 when I was about 15, 16 years old, 705 00:32:04,297 --> 00:32:08,005 that's when Jerry got into the Monopoly thing, 706 00:32:08,089 --> 00:32:10,172 and then that definitely, you know-- 707 00:32:10,255 --> 00:32:11,839 it was--that was a big deal. 708 00:32:11,923 --> 00:32:15,756 He had promised me, um, a $1 million ticket 709 00:32:15,839 --> 00:32:18,005 whenever I turned 18, 710 00:32:18,089 --> 00:32:20,589 because nobody could have the same last name. 711 00:32:20,673 --> 00:32:23,756 Sin--since my last name was Ethridge, 712 00:32:23,839 --> 00:32:26,047 um, you know, I was gonna be able to-- 713 00:32:26,130 --> 00:32:28,089 to win a $1 million ticket, and I was like, 714 00:32:28,172 --> 00:32:29,756 "Oh, heck yeah. Absolutely." 715 00:32:29,839 --> 00:32:31,673 [chuckles] 716 00:32:35,214 --> 00:32:37,798 - Uh, with the Monopoly situation, um, 717 00:32:37,881 --> 00:32:41,089 Uncle Dominic worked for family members 718 00:32:41,172 --> 00:32:42,923 in the New York division 719 00:32:43,005 --> 00:32:45,923 and, um, a mutual friend of his 720 00:32:46,005 --> 00:32:47,464 kind of said, "Hey, I got this guy 721 00:32:47,547 --> 00:32:49,297 that's doing this and this. You might be interested," 722 00:32:49,381 --> 00:32:50,339 and so forth and so on, 723 00:32:50,422 --> 00:32:53,673 and, uh, that was Jerome 724 00:32:53,756 --> 00:32:55,214 from Simon Marketing. 725 00:32:55,297 --> 00:32:57,798 Uh, he was getting the tickets. 726 00:32:57,881 --> 00:33:00,714 [tense music] 727 00:33:11,381 --> 00:33:13,589 - I don't know. It could have been. 728 00:33:13,673 --> 00:33:18,881 - I think Jerome possibly started it on his own 729 00:33:18,964 --> 00:33:20,172 in the beginning, 730 00:33:20,255 --> 00:33:22,547 and then people got wind of what he was doing 731 00:33:22,631 --> 00:33:26,255 and then they said, "Hey, let's see if we can use this 732 00:33:26,339 --> 00:33:28,297 as an avenue to expand it," 733 00:33:28,381 --> 00:33:31,005 and I believe that was brought to my brother's attention. 734 00:33:31,089 --> 00:33:32,839 Say, "Hey, there's this guy, he's doing this, 735 00:33:32,923 --> 00:33:35,631 and let's see if we can expand the, uh, horizon." 736 00:33:35,714 --> 00:33:37,047 ♪ ♪ 737 00:33:37,130 --> 00:33:39,339 - But then Jerry-- my Jerry-- 738 00:33:39,422 --> 00:33:43,214 received a phone call that Uncle Dominic died. 739 00:33:45,339 --> 00:33:49,214 - I--you know, you don't really talk about that. 740 00:33:49,297 --> 00:33:54,172 So anyway, my Jerry and Jerry Jacobson 741 00:33:54,255 --> 00:33:57,798 became partners on the Monopoly thing. 742 00:34:00,255 --> 00:34:07,297 ♪ ♪ 743 00:34:08,839 --> 00:34:11,506 - Working any case is like big puzzle. 744 00:34:11,589 --> 00:34:13,464 You--you start with a little piece, 745 00:34:13,547 --> 00:34:18,255 and you've gotta try to vet whether that is legitimate, 746 00:34:18,339 --> 00:34:20,381 whether it has any merit to it. 747 00:34:20,464 --> 00:34:21,422 - Here we go, here we go. 748 00:34:21,506 --> 00:34:23,089 The undercover portion 749 00:34:23,172 --> 00:34:24,214 with Michael Hoover 750 00:34:24,297 --> 00:34:25,589 went, you know-- 751 00:34:25,673 --> 00:34:27,297 went beyond expectations. 752 00:34:27,381 --> 00:34:29,547 We had, you know, Michael Hoover 753 00:34:29,631 --> 00:34:31,381 calling AJ Glomb. 754 00:34:31,464 --> 00:34:35,005 - We suspected Glomb was a recruiter, 755 00:34:35,089 --> 00:34:38,798 and he probably didn't just recruit Hoover. 756 00:34:38,881 --> 00:34:41,798 - Is there a connection to Uncle Jerry? 757 00:34:41,881 --> 00:34:43,255 - And so we started looking into him, 758 00:34:43,339 --> 00:34:46,881 and then expanded into other phone lines 759 00:34:46,964 --> 00:34:49,631 - We had coverage on many lines, 760 00:34:49,714 --> 00:34:52,506 including Jerry Jacobson, AJ Glomb, 761 00:34:52,589 --> 00:34:54,798 and a number of the winners. 762 00:34:54,881 --> 00:34:57,255 - The spider web of all, like-- 763 00:34:57,339 --> 00:34:59,589 we didn't know how big this was. 764 00:34:59,673 --> 00:35:01,214 We--we had this Uncle Jer-- it was-- 765 00:35:01,297 --> 00:35:04,047 everything was very general, nebulous. 766 00:35:04,130 --> 00:35:05,923 So inside the--the wire room, 767 00:35:06,005 --> 00:35:09,297 people sitting there, getting ready to listen, 768 00:35:09,381 --> 00:35:11,172 and nothing happens, right? 769 00:35:11,255 --> 00:35:13,047 You put all this effort into it, 770 00:35:13,130 --> 00:35:15,339 and nothing happens. 771 00:35:15,422 --> 00:35:17,381 You're spending your weekend doing that. 772 00:35:17,464 --> 00:35:20,589 - Unfortunately, in these conversations on the wire, 773 00:35:20,673 --> 00:35:24,089 the winners mostly had innocuous conversations 774 00:35:24,172 --> 00:35:26,673 that have nothing to do with the crime, 775 00:35:26,756 --> 00:35:29,172 so we start coming up with, "All right, 776 00:35:29,255 --> 00:35:34,130 "how do we get past winners to recount how they 777 00:35:34,214 --> 00:35:36,089 allegedly won these pieces?" 778 00:35:36,172 --> 00:35:38,255 - I said, "Look, we can do this. 779 00:35:38,339 --> 00:35:41,464 "Why don't we bring all these past winners 780 00:35:41,547 --> 00:35:43,464 to Vegas?" I just said Vegas. 781 00:35:43,547 --> 00:35:44,464 It's all I said. 782 00:35:44,547 --> 00:35:47,422 [upbeat music] 783 00:35:47,506 --> 00:35:48,547 ♪ ♪ 784 00:35:48,631 --> 00:35:49,964 I don't know why I picked Vegas. 785 00:35:50,047 --> 00:35:51,339 Probably 'cause of the fun mere thing, 786 00:35:51,422 --> 00:35:53,631 which is the immediate, "No!" You know? 787 00:35:53,714 --> 00:35:56,631 But I said, "Hey, just hear me out. 788 00:35:56,714 --> 00:36:01,464 "Let's do a reunion of all these past winners. 789 00:36:01,547 --> 00:36:03,589 Let's bring all these people together to tell us," 790 00:36:03,673 --> 00:36:05,047 'cause we didn't know their stories. 791 00:36:05,130 --> 00:36:06,798 Tell us how they won these, 792 00:36:06,881 --> 00:36:08,881 and what they did with it, that kind of thing, 793 00:36:08,964 --> 00:36:11,047 'cause, you know, McDonald's has big pockets. 794 00:36:11,130 --> 00:36:13,881 They get some all-expenses paid trip to Vegas, 795 00:36:13,964 --> 00:36:15,589 balloons falling and the confetti, 796 00:36:15,673 --> 00:36:16,798 and they love that shit. 797 00:36:16,881 --> 00:36:18,381 You know, the questions were, 798 00:36:18,464 --> 00:36:20,297 "Mathews, where are you gonna do this?" 799 00:36:20,381 --> 00:36:21,589 Embassy Suites. 800 00:36:21,673 --> 00:36:22,756 Take the whole floor, 801 00:36:22,839 --> 00:36:24,506 rope everything off, right? 802 00:36:24,589 --> 00:36:27,756 Just in case stupid shows up and you have them all line up 803 00:36:27,839 --> 00:36:28,714 in these rooms 804 00:36:28,798 --> 00:36:29,714 and just arrest them all 805 00:36:29,798 --> 00:36:31,005 at the same time, right? 806 00:36:31,089 --> 00:36:32,339 Great thing. 807 00:36:32,422 --> 00:36:34,339 [mimics buzzer sound] No. 808 00:36:34,422 --> 00:36:35,464 No way in hell. 809 00:36:35,547 --> 00:36:36,673 - [laughs] 810 00:36:36,756 --> 00:36:38,798 No, Doug. Not gonna do that. 811 00:36:38,881 --> 00:36:40,047 [laughs] 812 00:36:40,130 --> 00:36:41,923 How much is that gonna cost us? [laughs] 813 00:36:42,005 --> 00:36:43,714 We--you know, we did have some budgets to deal with, you know? 814 00:36:43,798 --> 00:36:44,798 So-- 815 00:36:44,881 --> 00:36:46,130 - I can't remember what it was. 816 00:36:46,214 --> 00:36:47,881 It was like, "Get him out of here." 817 00:36:47,964 --> 00:36:49,339 You know, whatever it was. 818 00:36:49,422 --> 00:36:51,172 "I can't believe you said that." 819 00:36:51,255 --> 00:36:53,881 - Doug is one of the hardest-working agents 820 00:36:53,964 --> 00:36:55,255 I've ever met in my life. 821 00:36:55,339 --> 00:36:57,923 Very creative, you know? He'll do anything. 822 00:36:58,005 --> 00:37:01,714 He'll try anything, and he can talk forever. 823 00:37:01,798 --> 00:37:04,547 He is relentless. 824 00:37:04,631 --> 00:37:06,547 [chuckles] 825 00:37:06,631 --> 00:37:10,756 - This idea of "hosting" a reunion 826 00:37:10,839 --> 00:37:13,339 of past winners in Las Vegas, you know, 827 00:37:13,422 --> 00:37:15,005 seemed so outlandish up front, 828 00:37:15,089 --> 00:37:17,964 and then we realized, "Well, wait a minute. 829 00:37:18,047 --> 00:37:20,047 "If you're not gonna follow through with it, 830 00:37:20,130 --> 00:37:21,547 you can promise--" [laughs] 831 00:37:21,631 --> 00:37:23,673 "You can promise some pretty elaborate things." 832 00:37:23,756 --> 00:37:25,172 Everybody likes to go to Vegas, 833 00:37:25,255 --> 00:37:28,589 so in preparation for that wonderful conference 834 00:37:28,673 --> 00:37:30,464 that we were gonna have all expense paid, 835 00:37:30,547 --> 00:37:32,339 we could contact these winners, 836 00:37:32,422 --> 00:37:35,881 go out and film them to capture their so-called story, 837 00:37:35,964 --> 00:37:40,756 and then the carrot was you get this trip to--to Vegas. 838 00:37:40,839 --> 00:37:42,506 - Rick was freaked out about it, 839 00:37:42,589 --> 00:37:43,964 but I wasn't. 840 00:37:44,047 --> 00:37:45,422 Remember, I'm the guy that's just, you know, 841 00:37:45,506 --> 00:37:46,547 "You know this is gonna work," 842 00:37:46,631 --> 00:37:47,839 'cause I know it is, right? 843 00:37:47,923 --> 00:37:50,089 It's all a shamrock, baby. Shamrock. 844 00:37:50,172 --> 00:37:53,923 [dramatic music] 845 00:37:54,005 --> 00:37:56,923 - I was the direct contact with the winners, 846 00:37:57,005 --> 00:38:00,381 so I could legitimize all of the information. 847 00:38:00,464 --> 00:38:02,547 It was all recorded and, you know, 848 00:38:02,631 --> 00:38:04,005 it was 17 years ago, 849 00:38:04,089 --> 00:38:07,381 so it was a big tape recorder that I carried around 850 00:38:07,464 --> 00:38:09,339 in a black McDonald's briefcase. 851 00:38:09,422 --> 00:38:11,089 I even carried it to my friend's wedding 852 00:38:11,172 --> 00:38:12,881 in Jackson Hole because, you know, 853 00:38:12,964 --> 00:38:15,923 I had to be able to tape the calls whenever they came. 854 00:38:16,005 --> 00:38:18,005 It's like I had to flip the tapes 855 00:38:18,089 --> 00:38:19,172 I'd be like, 856 00:38:19,255 --> 00:38:20,506 "Can I put you on hold for a second?" 857 00:38:20,589 --> 00:38:22,214 You know, and then I'd flip the tapes 858 00:38:22,297 --> 00:38:24,547 and then put them back on. 859 00:38:24,631 --> 00:38:26,464 [tense music] 860 00:38:26,547 --> 00:38:29,089 - Amy would call them up and say, "Hey, look, 861 00:38:29,172 --> 00:38:32,631 "we're putting together this media release 862 00:38:32,714 --> 00:38:35,798 "of previous winners, how they won it, 863 00:38:35,881 --> 00:38:36,839 "what they did with it, 864 00:38:36,923 --> 00:38:38,172 "some of their story that 865 00:38:38,255 --> 00:38:40,130 "it hasn't been really told. 866 00:38:40,214 --> 00:38:43,673 You know, we'll come to you or you can come to us." 867 00:38:43,756 --> 00:38:45,297 Wherever we were gonna do it, 868 00:38:45,381 --> 00:38:47,005 whatever hotel that you want. 869 00:38:47,089 --> 00:38:49,464 Nobody said no to that. 870 00:38:49,547 --> 00:38:50,714 Most everybody was like, 871 00:38:50,798 --> 00:38:52,631 "Tell me when we're going to Vegas." 872 00:38:52,714 --> 00:38:54,673 - Obviously we were not gonna do a reunion, 873 00:38:54,756 --> 00:38:56,547 um, but to the winners, 874 00:38:56,631 --> 00:38:58,047 we told them, uh, 875 00:38:58,130 --> 00:38:59,839 "We're planning this big reunion," 876 00:38:59,923 --> 00:39:02,089 and we started to get them actually 877 00:39:02,172 --> 00:39:04,589 excited to be going to Las Vegas. 878 00:39:04,673 --> 00:39:07,673 - That was kind of fundamental that was a bit of a ruse. 879 00:39:07,756 --> 00:39:10,756 We, you know--we didn't make reservations in Las Vegas. 880 00:39:10,839 --> 00:39:12,214 I think the pitch was, you know, 881 00:39:12,297 --> 00:39:14,464 "We're gonna put your story up on the big screen 882 00:39:14,547 --> 00:39:15,756 "and, you know, over a dinner, 883 00:39:15,839 --> 00:39:16,964 "and everybody's gonna clap. 884 00:39:17,047 --> 00:39:18,089 Are you interested 885 00:39:18,172 --> 00:39:19,381 in the reunion of winners?" 886 00:39:19,464 --> 00:39:20,506 And of course they are. 887 00:39:20,589 --> 00:39:22,339 Well, locking them into 888 00:39:22,422 --> 00:39:24,214 a story on camera 889 00:39:24,297 --> 00:39:26,881 takes a B minus case and makes it, you know, 890 00:39:26,964 --> 00:39:29,839 an A, A plus case. 891 00:39:29,923 --> 00:39:33,047 [distant cars passing] 892 00:39:39,798 --> 00:39:42,756 [upbeat music] 893 00:39:42,839 --> 00:39:49,381 ♪ ♪ 894 00:39:49,464 --> 00:39:50,714 - My name is Doug Astralaga, 895 00:39:50,798 --> 00:39:52,047 I'm an FBI agent, 896 00:39:52,130 --> 00:39:53,297 and I was the lighting guy 897 00:39:53,381 --> 00:39:55,047 for the Shamrock production 898 00:39:55,130 --> 00:39:57,047 in the McDonald's case. 899 00:39:57,130 --> 00:39:58,631 Oh, so this is the little-- 900 00:39:58,714 --> 00:40:00,172 yeah, I remember this. 901 00:40:00,255 --> 00:40:02,547 [laughs] 902 00:40:02,631 --> 00:40:06,964 ♪ ♪ 903 00:40:07,047 --> 00:40:10,214 - Doug Astralaga was a relatively young agent. 904 00:40:10,297 --> 00:40:13,673 Uh, you know, real--real enthusiastic, 905 00:40:13,756 --> 00:40:15,047 uh, charismatic guy. 906 00:40:15,130 --> 00:40:16,589 - When I came out of Quantico, 907 00:40:16,673 --> 00:40:18,756 I wanted to do something exciting. 908 00:40:18,839 --> 00:40:21,839 - Originally I had stuck him with the admin agent 909 00:40:21,923 --> 00:40:22,839 on this title III, 910 00:40:22,923 --> 00:40:25,464 which is, uh, of all the jobs, 911 00:40:25,547 --> 00:40:27,214 probably the most thankless. 912 00:40:27,297 --> 00:40:29,714 I mean, it--it really is a-- a brutal job, 913 00:40:29,798 --> 00:40:32,798 but there's a reward process that happens, 914 00:40:32,881 --> 00:40:34,506 so in Doug's case, 915 00:40:34,589 --> 00:40:36,589 we let him work on the undercover 916 00:40:36,673 --> 00:40:38,506 with--with Doug Mathews as the-- 917 00:40:38,589 --> 00:40:40,756 the "lighting guy." 918 00:40:40,839 --> 00:40:42,297 - I had no idea what I was doing. 919 00:40:42,381 --> 00:40:44,589 I was just using this light meter 920 00:40:44,673 --> 00:40:46,422 and pressing something on this going, 921 00:40:46,506 --> 00:40:47,881 "It's great." 922 00:40:47,964 --> 00:40:50,881 This is--I still have no idea how to use one of these. 923 00:40:50,964 --> 00:40:52,172 [laughs] 924 00:40:52,255 --> 00:40:53,673 Excellent, but I do believe 925 00:40:53,756 --> 00:40:55,214 we need more lighting over here. 926 00:40:55,297 --> 00:40:57,464 ♪ ♪ 927 00:40:57,547 --> 00:40:59,381 Really, the point was to engage them 928 00:40:59,464 --> 00:41:00,589 in conversations. 929 00:41:00,673 --> 00:41:02,756 That had to reconcile with what 930 00:41:02,839 --> 00:41:05,005 they had originally stated for McDonald's 931 00:41:05,089 --> 00:41:06,130 to win the prize. 932 00:41:06,214 --> 00:41:08,089 - We recorded these interviews with them 933 00:41:08,172 --> 00:41:12,214 so the FBI could then match the timeline 934 00:41:12,297 --> 00:41:13,422 match the facts. 935 00:41:13,506 --> 00:41:15,964 What they originally told McDonald's, 936 00:41:16,047 --> 00:41:17,631 what they're telling us on camera, 937 00:41:17,714 --> 00:41:21,547 what the FBI sort of already knew. 938 00:41:21,631 --> 00:41:24,464 - So that once we had the evidence showing that 939 00:41:24,547 --> 00:41:26,839 you know you didn't win this legitimately, 940 00:41:26,923 --> 00:41:28,464 you've lied to the FBI, 941 00:41:28,547 --> 00:41:30,381 and here's the evidence to prove it, 942 00:41:30,464 --> 00:41:33,589 they would be more willing to cooperate. 943 00:41:35,089 --> 00:41:36,214 - Yes. 944 00:41:38,381 --> 00:41:43,756 - The FBI was merely--when-- when the FBI took a film crew 945 00:41:43,839 --> 00:41:45,381 to a winner, 946 00:41:45,464 --> 00:41:50,381 that winner had already contacted Simon Marketing, 947 00:41:50,464 --> 00:41:52,506 hence McDonald's, 948 00:41:52,589 --> 00:41:55,047 claiming to have been a winner. 949 00:41:55,130 --> 00:41:58,714 They're already saying, "I did this, 950 00:41:58,798 --> 00:42:01,381 and this is how I obtained this game piece." 951 00:42:01,464 --> 00:42:05,172 An individual could never claim that's entrapment 952 00:42:05,255 --> 00:42:09,673 because they did it before the law enforcement 953 00:42:09,756 --> 00:42:10,673 was involved. 954 00:42:10,756 --> 00:42:14,255 Entrapment is to have law enforcement 955 00:42:14,339 --> 00:42:17,381 put the idea into the person's head 956 00:42:17,464 --> 00:42:19,214 and to get them to do something 957 00:42:19,297 --> 00:42:21,005 they otherwise wouldn't have done. 958 00:42:21,089 --> 00:42:22,673 We weren't saying, 959 00:42:22,756 --> 00:42:25,172 "Say this, say this, and say that." 960 00:42:25,255 --> 00:42:27,422 We were saying, "How? 961 00:42:27,506 --> 00:42:28,714 What? 962 00:42:28,798 --> 00:42:29,798 Where? 963 00:42:29,881 --> 00:42:31,047 Who?" 964 00:42:31,130 --> 00:42:33,214 Those are just opportunities 965 00:42:33,297 --> 00:42:35,214 for him to fill in the blanks 966 00:42:35,297 --> 00:42:37,923 and tell us what he wants to tell us. 967 00:42:38,005 --> 00:42:39,464 - Remember just keep looking at me. 968 00:42:39,547 --> 00:42:40,339 - Okay. 969 00:42:40,422 --> 00:42:41,381 - And if you mess up or you feel like 970 00:42:41,464 --> 00:42:42,464 you wanna say it again, 971 00:42:42,547 --> 00:42:44,172 we can start all over again. - Okay. 972 00:42:44,255 --> 00:42:46,923 And I'll try to limit my hand gestures. 973 00:42:47,005 --> 00:42:49,673 Sometimes it gets in there so I'll make sure I don't do that. 974 00:42:49,756 --> 00:42:54,631 Um, okay, why don't we go back to that day that you won 975 00:42:54,714 --> 00:42:57,005 in New Hampshire and can you just sort of 976 00:42:57,089 --> 00:42:58,339 describe the day for us? 977 00:42:58,422 --> 00:43:00,881 What you were doing in the morning and at work and then-- 978 00:43:00,964 --> 00:43:04,631 - It was a, uh--a summer day. 979 00:43:04,714 --> 00:43:07,631 Uh, no, wait, uh, I wasn't working. 980 00:43:07,714 --> 00:43:10,005 It was Sunday, as a matter of fact. 981 00:43:10,089 --> 00:43:11,339 Uh... 982 00:43:12,589 --> 00:43:16,422 And there wasn't a whole lot of work to do, 983 00:43:16,506 --> 00:43:18,422 so, uh, you know, 984 00:43:18,506 --> 00:43:20,547 just browsing through the Sunday paper 985 00:43:20,631 --> 00:43:22,339 as I am want to do. 986 00:43:22,422 --> 00:43:24,506 - He was fumbling through it trying to figure out 987 00:43:24,589 --> 00:43:27,589 how he won that particular piece. 988 00:43:27,673 --> 00:43:29,798 In reality, 989 00:43:29,881 --> 00:43:31,673 a life experience like that 990 00:43:31,756 --> 00:43:34,631 is drilled into your memory forever and ever. 991 00:43:34,714 --> 00:43:37,589 Nobody wins $1 million on a regular basis. 992 00:43:37,673 --> 00:43:43,756 - Uh, I found the insert 993 00:43:43,839 --> 00:43:47,589 and I found the, uh, 994 00:43:47,673 --> 00:43:50,381 little tear-off tab 995 00:43:50,464 --> 00:43:54,631 and I got cold, very cold. 996 00:43:54,714 --> 00:43:57,381 - He was sweating so bad. 997 00:43:57,464 --> 00:44:03,464 Like, I know at some point, um, Amy even said to me, 998 00:44:03,547 --> 00:44:05,255 "Every time you ask him a question, 999 00:44:05,339 --> 00:44:09,339 it's like I gotta get the towel to dot his head." 1000 00:44:09,422 --> 00:44:11,839 It was pouring out... 1001 00:44:11,923 --> 00:44:12,923 - Uh-- 1002 00:44:13,005 --> 00:44:15,631 - Because he was lying about everything. 1003 00:44:15,714 --> 00:44:16,756 - Well, suffice it to say, 1004 00:44:16,839 --> 00:44:18,881 I just--I just got cold all over. 1005 00:44:22,381 --> 00:44:26,881 - No, I, uh, first I wasn't-- I wasn't so sure about it. 1006 00:44:26,964 --> 00:44:28,714 I went to a lawyer. 1007 00:44:28,798 --> 00:44:29,839 - [laughs] - I did. 1008 00:44:29,923 --> 00:44:32,005 I want--you know, you need to protect yourself 1009 00:44:32,089 --> 00:44:33,172 and, uh-- 1010 00:44:34,673 --> 00:44:35,881 - No, I don't. Uh-- 1011 00:44:37,964 --> 00:44:40,923 - No, it was, um-- oh... 1012 00:44:41,923 --> 00:44:45,047 Over in, uh-- oh... 1013 00:44:45,130 --> 00:44:46,673 - You could zoom in, 'cause we did, 1014 00:44:46,756 --> 00:44:48,422 zoom in on his forehead 1015 00:44:48,506 --> 00:44:51,714 and you could just see the sweat. 1016 00:44:51,798 --> 00:44:53,756 [tense music] 1017 00:44:55,297 --> 00:44:56,422 - Yes. - Okay. 1018 00:44:58,422 --> 00:45:00,130 - Yeah, um-- 1019 00:45:02,673 --> 00:45:04,422 - I'm leaky. - [giggles] 1020 00:45:04,923 --> 00:45:06,339 - You know, and I'd say stuff like, 1021 00:45:06,422 --> 00:45:10,172 "Hey, so nobody, like, called you up and said, 1022 00:45:10,255 --> 00:45:12,547 "'Hey, we need you to be a winner,' or whatever?" 1023 00:45:12,631 --> 00:45:14,631 And he'd go, "God, no! I'd never do that!" 1024 00:45:14,714 --> 00:45:18,047 And it just--just pours. The sweat would pour. 1025 00:45:18,130 --> 00:45:19,506 I went to a lawyer, 1026 00:45:19,589 --> 00:45:22,756 uh, and he advised me to pr-- 1027 00:45:22,839 --> 00:45:27,381 at all cost, protect my identity. 1028 00:45:27,464 --> 00:45:31,005 - It just seemed odd to me that many of the people I talked to 1029 00:45:31,089 --> 00:45:32,297 did not want to come forward 1030 00:45:32,381 --> 00:45:34,547 and they seemed to have knowledge 1031 00:45:34,631 --> 00:45:36,506 about what their legal rights were 1032 00:45:36,589 --> 00:45:39,756 about, uh, being anonymous or not. 1033 00:45:42,297 --> 00:45:46,381 - Buddy Fisher was the father of Robin Colombo, 1034 00:45:46,464 --> 00:45:50,464 uh, who was married to Jerry Colombo. 1035 00:45:50,547 --> 00:45:53,422 [dramatic music] 1036 00:45:53,506 --> 00:45:54,547 - I'll never forget it. 1037 00:45:54,631 --> 00:45:56,881 I was upstairs in my bedroom, 1038 00:45:56,964 --> 00:45:59,422 and my father called me 1039 00:45:59,506 --> 00:46:02,005 and there wasn't many words exchanged. 1040 00:46:02,089 --> 00:46:04,422 He just said, "I want the big one," 1041 00:46:04,506 --> 00:46:05,714 so I knew what it meant. 1042 00:46:05,798 --> 00:46:08,464 - He did get one of the $1 million tickets 1043 00:46:08,547 --> 00:46:15,631 and he had never broken a law in his entire life. 1044 00:46:16,339 --> 00:46:18,923 One stipulation that my grandfather made, 1045 00:46:19,005 --> 00:46:22,172 um, he says, "Okay, If I-- if I get this ticket, 1046 00:46:22,255 --> 00:46:25,255 I do not--I'm--I'm not doing a commercial." 1047 00:46:25,339 --> 00:46:26,214 [phone rings] 1048 00:46:26,297 --> 00:46:28,547 But I remember we would be 1049 00:46:28,631 --> 00:46:30,005 getting phone calls, 1050 00:46:30,089 --> 00:46:32,255 and they would talk to my grandfather 1051 00:46:32,339 --> 00:46:35,673 and say, "Hey, we're trying to get all of the, um-- 1052 00:46:35,756 --> 00:46:38,756 the Monopoly winners together for some kind of reunion," 1053 00:46:38,839 --> 00:46:39,798 or something like that. 1054 00:46:39,881 --> 00:46:41,589 I wanna say it was Vegas, 1055 00:46:41,673 --> 00:46:44,464 so he did make that trip. 1056 00:46:44,547 --> 00:46:46,798 - Now, had your wife or anyone in your whole family 1057 00:46:46,881 --> 00:46:48,172 ever won anything like that before? 1058 00:46:48,255 --> 00:46:49,673 - No, no. - Never? 1059 00:46:49,756 --> 00:46:51,631 - Nothing. - So this was big. 1060 00:46:51,714 --> 00:46:53,839 - It--huge. 1061 00:46:53,923 --> 00:46:55,964 - So you're the luckiest one in your family, huh? 1062 00:46:56,047 --> 00:46:57,714 - Yes, yes. - [laughs] 1063 00:46:57,798 --> 00:47:00,172 - So has any of your kids or grandkids played Monopoly 1064 00:47:00,255 --> 00:47:01,297 or tried to win or anything like that? 1065 00:47:01,381 --> 00:47:03,089 - Yes, yes, and we still do. 1066 00:47:03,172 --> 00:47:04,714 - Oh, good. - And we still do, yes. 1067 00:47:04,798 --> 00:47:06,673 - Have any of them won any cars or-- 1068 00:47:06,756 --> 00:47:08,255 - No. - [chuckles] 1069 00:47:08,339 --> 00:47:09,798 - I think I won a cheeseburger. 1070 00:47:09,881 --> 00:47:11,923 - [laughs] 1071 00:47:20,547 --> 00:47:22,506 - You s--he did do one? 1072 00:47:22,589 --> 00:47:23,798 I did not know that. 1073 00:47:25,089 --> 00:47:26,756 Oh. Okay, yeah. 1074 00:47:26,839 --> 00:47:28,255 I di--I did not know that. 1075 00:47:29,673 --> 00:47:31,381 Hmm. Okay. 1076 00:47:32,005 --> 00:47:33,422 Wow. [laughs] 1077 00:47:34,547 --> 00:47:36,005 Is that around? 1078 00:47:36,089 --> 00:47:37,422 [laughs] 1079 00:47:37,506 --> 00:47:39,714 [upbeat music] 1080 00:47:39,798 --> 00:47:41,839 - You know, the greed was crazy here, 1081 00:47:41,923 --> 00:47:45,255 which is great for us. [laughs] 1082 00:47:45,339 --> 00:47:48,297 [jazz music] 1083 00:47:48,381 --> 00:47:50,172 ♪ ♪ 1084 00:47:50,255 --> 00:47:52,923 - One night Jerry and I 1085 00:47:53,005 --> 00:47:54,881 were out with our wives to dinner 1086 00:47:54,964 --> 00:47:56,881 and we went to the men's room together. 1087 00:47:56,964 --> 00:48:00,798 That sounds horrible but we went to the men's room together 1088 00:48:00,881 --> 00:48:04,297 and Jerry gave me a $1 million ticket. 1089 00:48:04,381 --> 00:48:05,964 - This is for you. 1090 00:48:06,047 --> 00:48:08,297 And I told him, "I don't wanna be involved. 1091 00:48:08,381 --> 00:48:09,255 I really don't." 1092 00:48:09,339 --> 00:48:11,547 I--I had not cashed in anything 1093 00:48:11,631 --> 00:48:13,547 but a $25,000 ticket. 1094 00:48:13,631 --> 00:48:15,964 I told him I didn't need the $1 million. 1095 00:48:16,047 --> 00:48:17,714 I told him I was out of it. 1096 00:48:17,798 --> 00:48:19,047 I said, "Jerry, you know what? 1097 00:48:19,130 --> 00:48:20,964 "I don't know what you did with these guys, 1098 00:48:21,047 --> 00:48:23,339 "how much you made, or anything else. 1099 00:48:23,422 --> 00:48:25,381 "There's a time and there's a place. 1100 00:48:25,464 --> 00:48:28,297 Stop," and everything else. 1101 00:48:28,381 --> 00:48:31,047 He said, "Well, just do something with the ticket." 1102 00:48:31,130 --> 00:48:33,214 [distant classical music playing] 1103 00:48:33,297 --> 00:48:36,297 So I took the ticket and I flushed it down the toilet. 1104 00:48:36,381 --> 00:48:38,130 [toilet flushes] 1105 00:48:40,714 --> 00:48:42,673 - Didn't--nothing. Zero. 1106 00:48:46,964 --> 00:48:48,798 - I didn't, either. How's that? 1107 00:48:51,923 --> 00:48:53,589 Yeah, how's that? I didn't either. 1108 00:48:53,673 --> 00:48:54,464 No. 1109 00:48:54,547 --> 00:48:56,172 I knew I was doing the right thing. 1110 00:48:58,339 --> 00:49:02,589 And Jerry had told me it was over and that was it. 1111 00:49:02,673 --> 00:49:04,506 [distant classical music playing] 1112 00:49:04,589 --> 00:49:05,673 I'm telling you, 1113 00:49:05,756 --> 00:49:08,756 the night I flushed that ticket down the toilet, 1114 00:49:08,839 --> 00:49:10,506 I thought it was over. 1115 00:49:11,464 --> 00:49:13,673 I thought it was over. 1116 00:49:13,756 --> 00:49:16,089 I swear to you on everything holy, 1117 00:49:16,172 --> 00:49:18,005 I thought it was over. 1118 00:49:20,089 --> 00:49:22,881 [dramatic music] 1119 00:49:22,964 --> 00:49:27,964 - If I even suspected he was taking tickets, 1120 00:49:28,047 --> 00:49:30,881 I would have told on him in a heartbeat, 1121 00:49:30,964 --> 00:49:31,923 and he knew it. 1122 00:49:32,005 --> 00:49:33,339 And I think that's why I didn't know it. 1123 00:49:33,422 --> 00:49:35,798 I--I bet that's why I didn't get a ticket. 1124 00:49:35,881 --> 00:49:39,130 [laughing] 1125 00:49:39,214 --> 00:49:40,756 ♪ ♪ 1126 00:49:40,839 --> 00:49:45,172 After Jerry got sick with this Guillain-Barré syndrome, 1127 00:49:45,255 --> 00:49:47,881 there was something different in him. 1128 00:49:47,964 --> 00:49:52,005 Even though he was well on the road to mending, 1129 00:49:52,089 --> 00:49:55,130 he could have repercussions later on 1130 00:49:55,214 --> 00:49:58,506 being crippled or bedridden or dead. 1131 00:49:58,589 --> 00:49:59,839 ♪ ♪ 1132 00:49:59,923 --> 00:50:02,422 So he had nothing to lose at that point. 1133 00:50:02,506 --> 00:50:05,130 ♪ ♪ 1134 00:50:05,214 --> 00:50:07,130 - My husband, Jerry, 1135 00:50:07,214 --> 00:50:09,881 we got a lot of my family members involved, 1136 00:50:09,964 --> 00:50:11,589 and that isn't all. 1137 00:50:11,673 --> 00:50:13,297 My family members that won, 1138 00:50:13,381 --> 00:50:15,589 that was just a little piece of the pie. 1139 00:50:15,673 --> 00:50:17,339 [door creaking] 1140 00:50:17,422 --> 00:50:19,547 [crickets chirping] 1141 00:50:19,631 --> 00:50:23,214 You had Al Capone with the prohibition. 1142 00:50:23,297 --> 00:50:26,172 ♪ ♪ 1143 00:50:26,255 --> 00:50:29,839 You had Mike Franzese with the gas, 1144 00:50:29,923 --> 00:50:35,214 and then now you have this-- the Monopoly. 1145 00:50:35,297 --> 00:50:40,130 That's really the highest three moneymakers 1146 00:50:40,214 --> 00:50:41,839 of the mob so far. 1147 00:50:41,923 --> 00:50:45,255 ♪ ♪ 1148 00:50:48,381 --> 00:50:49,673 My husband picked the winners. 1149 00:50:49,756 --> 00:50:53,381 He had tickets. He flew everywhere. 1150 00:50:53,464 --> 00:50:56,964 I think Uncle Jerry may have even got a little jealous. 1151 00:51:00,297 --> 00:51:02,964 - "Uncle Jerry" is Jerome Jacobson. 1152 00:51:04,047 --> 00:51:08,547 And Jerry is my husband, Jerry Colombo. 1153 00:51:08,631 --> 00:51:11,547 Jacobson became Uncle Jerry 1154 00:51:11,631 --> 00:51:13,422 because that's an Italian thing. 1155 00:51:13,506 --> 00:51:17,214 My husband gave him that out of respect. 1156 00:51:17,297 --> 00:51:20,255 [tense music] 1157 00:51:20,339 --> 00:51:27,422 ♪ ♪ 1158 00:51:28,631 --> 00:51:30,339 - If your general opinion of mankind 1159 00:51:30,422 --> 00:51:32,589 is running kind of low this holiday season, 1160 00:51:32,673 --> 00:51:34,839 here's a story that might make you feel much, 1161 00:51:34,923 --> 00:51:36,631 much better about the human race. 1162 00:51:36,714 --> 00:51:42,297 ♪ ♪ 1163 00:51:42,381 --> 00:51:44,506 - St. Jude Children's Research Hospital 1164 00:51:44,589 --> 00:51:47,422 in Memphis has received a very unusual gift. 1165 00:51:47,506 --> 00:51:50,506 [car engine revving] 1166 00:51:50,589 --> 00:51:52,673 ♪ ♪ 1167 00:51:56,923 --> 00:51:58,964 - Yeah, that's--that's Uncle Jerry. 1168 00:51:59,047 --> 00:52:02,297 ♪ ♪ 1169 00:52:02,381 --> 00:52:04,422 - Hospital officials are calling this 1170 00:52:04,506 --> 00:52:05,923 a gift from an angel 1171 00:52:06,005 --> 00:52:08,714 in the true spirit of the season. 1172 00:52:08,798 --> 00:52:14,172 ♪ ♪ 1173 00:52:14,255 --> 00:52:16,381 - This is a happy day. Whoo-hoo! 1174 00:52:16,464 --> 00:52:21,631 ♪ ♪ 1175 00:52:21,714 --> 00:52:24,422 - If you're out there and you hear me, 1176 00:52:24,506 --> 00:52:26,714 we love you. 1177 00:52:26,798 --> 00:52:29,756 [energetic music] 1178 00:52:29,839 --> 00:52:36,881 ♪ ♪ 1179 00:53:17,839 --> 00:53:19,923 [bright tone] 1180 00:53:22,464 --> 00:53:25,005 My brother took this little, small operation and made it huge. 1181 00:53:25,089 --> 00:53:27,089 Literally, it was a monopoly of scams. 1182 00:53:27,422 --> 00:53:28,464 (CASH REGISTER DINGS) 1183 00:53:28,547 --> 00:53:31,422 The winners, they would just lie, lie, lie. 1184 00:53:32,130 --> 00:53:35,297 We can push, and you never know when you're gonna hit a wall. 1185 00:53:35,381 --> 00:53:37,339 There was things that nobody knew. 1186 00:53:37,798 --> 00:53:39,631 And I just kept it all to myself. 1187 00:53:40,297 --> 00:53:42,506 I thought, "I'm never gonna get out of this." 1188 00:53:42,756 --> 00:53:44,214 I was about to panic. 1189 00:53:44,589 --> 00:53:48,631 I had no other option but to take this process through. 1190 00:53:49,089 --> 00:53:50,631 The money got too big. 1191 00:53:51,339 --> 00:53:52,964 FRANK COLOMBO: With that comes a price. 1192 00:53:53,547 --> 00:53:54,798 (GUN CLICKS) 1193 00:53:55,130 --> 00:53:56,130 (CASH REGISTER DINGS) 86209

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