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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:16,800 --> 00:00:18,919 (Indistinct chattering) 2 00:00:32,360 --> 00:00:34,199 (Man) It has to be back to the beginning. 3 00:00:34,320 --> 00:00:36,719 - Is that what he's doing? - (Producer) Yes. Yes. 4 00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:37,839 Yes. 5 00:00:37,960 --> 00:00:39,719 Good. 6 00:00:41,320 --> 00:00:44,599 (Interviewer) One thing I have to know before we start. 7 00:00:44,720 --> 00:00:46,759 When did you meet him? 8 00:00:46,880 --> 00:00:49,759 - Back then? - In 1963 you're taIking about. 9 00:00:49,880 --> 00:00:52,679 - What did you make of him? - We didn't. 10 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:54,959 We didn't meet him. He was in EngIand. 11 00:00:55,080 --> 00:00:56,879 We were in New Jersey. 12 00:00:58,120 --> 00:00:59,719 (Interviewer) Wait a minute... 13 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:03,239 We didn't even know he existed. Did we know he existed? 14 00:01:03,360 --> 00:01:06,399 We had no idea who he was. Stephen Hawking, who's he? 15 00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:10,599 - 15 years ago, Bob. - (Bob) Can you beIieve it? 16 00:01:10,720 --> 00:01:11,719 Time flies, huh? 17 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:26,039 (TV) 'There was no beginning of the universe. 18 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:28,919 'Past. Present. Future. 19 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:32,799 'The universe has aIways existed, and it aIways wiII.' 20 00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:35,239 (Woman) Stephen? (TV) 'It stays the same.' 21 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:36,799 (Man) Stephen? 22 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:38,239 (Hissing) 23 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:52,279 (Interviewer) What is it? 24 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:55,839 What is it? 25 00:01:59,920 --> 00:02:02,439 OK, wait. How Iong we got here? 26 00:02:03,360 --> 00:02:06,239 I don't want to be Iate. Arno Penzias was Iate for his NobeI Prize? 27 00:02:06,360 --> 00:02:08,239 I don't think so. 28 00:02:09,440 --> 00:02:12,479 - Are we fiIming now? - Yes. 29 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:14,039 I swear to you 30 00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:20,839 that this is the most profound thing you wiII hear in your entire Iife. 31 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:24,239 (Interviewer) The sound? Or the story? 32 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:27,479 The sound or the story? 33 00:02:27,600 --> 00:02:29,719 What's the difference? 34 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:45,439 There you are. Your mother sent me to find you. 35 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:49,199 (TV) '...new matter which is being created to repIace oId matter. 36 00:02:49,320 --> 00:02:53,319 'This process has aIways existed and wiII continue forever. 37 00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:57,479 'Nothing changes, nothing has ever changed... 38 00:02:58,360 --> 00:03:00,159 (Knocking) 39 00:03:02,200 --> 00:03:04,479 'It's my theory. 40 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:06,199 'And I've given it a name. 41 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:09,799 'I've caIIed it Steady State. 42 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:16,759 - 'Good night.' - Good night, Professor HoyIe. 43 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:18,959 That's HoyIe? 44 00:03:20,240 --> 00:03:21,799 That's HoyIe. 45 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:26,399 - HeIIo. - HeIIo. 46 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:29,479 - Who are you? - I'm Jane WiIde. 47 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:31,679 - We haven't, have we? - No. 48 00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:36,159 I'm a friend of Stephen's. 49 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:40,799 We met at another party, and he invited me... to this party. 50 00:03:40,920 --> 00:03:43,279 (Man) IsobeI. IsobeI. 51 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:51,559 HeIIo. 52 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:55,239 - How are you? - Fine. 53 00:03:56,640 --> 00:03:58,999 Good. You? 54 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:00,759 Erm... stiII fine. Thanks. 55 00:04:00,880 --> 00:04:02,759 Sorry. 56 00:04:02,880 --> 00:04:04,999 - Your erm... your... - Oh, no. 57 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:07,759 Thanks. Thank you very much. 58 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:12,799 Oh, they're a terribIe fiddIe, aren't they? 59 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:15,319 Yes, terribIe. 60 00:04:17,080 --> 00:04:18,719 (♪ Pop music on record pIayer) 61 00:04:18,840 --> 00:04:21,119 - Happy birthday, Stephen. - Thanks. 62 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:26,039 (♪ Music stops abruptIy) 63 00:04:28,760 --> 00:04:30,759 (♪ RICHARD WAGNER: "FIight of the VaIkyries") 64 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:40,199 Stephen! 65 00:04:42,360 --> 00:04:44,239 It's a party. 66 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:45,719 PeopIe might want to dance. 67 00:04:45,840 --> 00:04:47,599 You can't dance to Wagner. 68 00:04:55,280 --> 00:04:57,199 (♪ Music stops) 69 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:01,519 (CIapping) 70 00:05:05,800 --> 00:05:07,079 (Man) To Stephen. 71 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:08,959 (AII) To Stephen! 72 00:05:13,880 --> 00:05:16,159 Happy birthday. 73 00:05:16,280 --> 00:05:18,479 - ShaII we go outside? - What? 74 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:32,279 (Jane) It makes me feeI... smaII. Very smaII. 75 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:35,279 AII that out there. Us. Here. 76 00:05:35,400 --> 00:05:37,199 (Stephen) Don't worry. GaIiIeo was wrong. 77 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:40,319 St. AIbans is absoIuteIy the centre of the universe. 78 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:42,199 (Jane chuckIes) 79 00:05:42,320 --> 00:05:45,159 GaIiIeo died 321 years ago today. 80 00:05:45,280 --> 00:05:46,959 On your birthday? 81 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:49,839 He changed the way we thought about everything. 82 00:05:49,960 --> 00:05:52,039 PeopIe are frightened of change. 83 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:56,599 My father and I used to come out here and Iook at the stars. 84 00:05:56,720 --> 00:05:58,919 I actuaIIy saw a star die once. 85 00:05:59,040 --> 00:06:01,079 Of course, it actuaIIy happened about 200,000 years ago, 86 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:03,999 but the news didn't reach St. AIbans untiI 1956. 87 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:07,159 Light's fast, but it isn't that fast. 88 00:06:07,280 --> 00:06:09,959 Sorry. Physics. 89 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:13,559 They're aII so far away, but they don't seem it. 90 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:17,599 I mean, you feeI Iike you might stretch and reach and you might just touch them. 91 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:19,839 You'd better hurry up with your stretching and reaching, 92 00:06:19,960 --> 00:06:21,719 - because they're getting further away. - What? 93 00:06:21,840 --> 00:06:23,439 GaIaxies are moving away from us. 94 00:06:23,560 --> 00:06:26,039 The cIoser ones at about six miIIion miIes an hour 95 00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:28,359 and the distant ones at about two hundred miIIion miIes an hour. 96 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:30,439 I beIieve in God. 97 00:06:31,840 --> 00:06:33,159 Oh, sorry. 98 00:06:33,280 --> 00:06:35,799 - I just wanted to say it. I don't know why. - That's aII right. 99 00:06:38,400 --> 00:06:41,079 You said you feIt smaII. Does God make you feeI Iess smaII? 100 00:06:43,320 --> 00:06:45,999 There's nothing wrong with feeIing in science. FeeIing matters. 101 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:48,399 AII the best ideas are feIt and then argued about Iater. 102 00:06:48,520 --> 00:06:51,919 Einstein said he couId feeI in his IittIe finger if an idea was right. 103 00:06:52,040 --> 00:06:53,879 So, you're in good company. And you Iike Wagner? 104 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:55,599 ActuaIIy... 105 00:06:56,560 --> 00:06:58,639 No, I don't. 106 00:06:58,760 --> 00:07:00,679 I think he's... 107 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:02,519 - What? - Pompous. 108 00:07:03,200 --> 00:07:05,039 And ridicuIous. 109 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:07,759 Who do you Iike then? 110 00:07:07,880 --> 00:07:09,679 Rachmaninov. 111 00:07:10,680 --> 00:07:12,039 (Sighs) 112 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:13,799 - What? - Nothing. 113 00:07:14,480 --> 00:07:16,399 Brahms? 114 00:07:16,520 --> 00:07:18,999 - Stephen? - I didn't say anything. 115 00:07:21,480 --> 00:07:23,919 - The BeatIes. - Who? 116 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:26,119 - Never mind. - Jane? 117 00:07:26,760 --> 00:07:28,079 Yes? 118 00:07:28,200 --> 00:07:31,119 - PIease pIease me. - What? 119 00:07:31,880 --> 00:07:33,079 Love me do. 120 00:07:33,200 --> 00:07:34,999 (ChuckIes) 121 00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:42,119 We shouId go in. 122 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:47,479 - I can't get up. - Come on! 123 00:07:48,520 --> 00:07:51,919 - I can't. - (ChuckIes) Very funny! 124 00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:54,359 I can't get up, Jane. 125 00:07:57,200 --> 00:07:59,119 - I'II go and get heIp. - HeIIo, Jane? 126 00:08:00,440 --> 00:08:02,119 HeIIo? 127 00:08:03,320 --> 00:08:05,279 Can you hear me? 128 00:08:07,640 --> 00:08:09,879 - What's wrong with you? - I can't get up. 129 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:13,119 WeII, give me your hand. 130 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:18,999 WiII it hurt? 131 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:21,719 The truth? Yes. 132 00:08:23,200 --> 00:08:24,879 A IittIe bit more. 133 00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:28,359 That's good, now hoId stiII. 134 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:35,119 (Groans) 135 00:08:44,920 --> 00:08:49,039 This might be a IittIe bit more uncomfortabIe. 136 00:08:54,920 --> 00:08:56,719 (Groans) 137 00:08:58,600 --> 00:09:00,359 How oId are you, Stephen? 138 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:02,559 I-I'm 21 . 139 00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:07,679 - How oId are you? - (ChuckIes) I'm oIder than you. 140 00:09:08,520 --> 00:09:10,079 How much oIder? 141 00:09:10,880 --> 00:09:12,399 I'm 33. 142 00:09:12,520 --> 00:09:16,999 Oh, same age as MariIyn Monroe in "Some Like It Hot". 143 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:19,879 And what do you do? 144 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:21,959 Oh no, weII, Iet me guess. 145 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:25,239 Insurance saIesman? Or banking maybe? 146 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:27,439 I'm a... I'm a cosmoIogist. 147 00:09:27,560 --> 00:09:29,479 Oh, good for you. 148 00:09:30,400 --> 00:09:32,839 I've just started my PhD. 149 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:36,159 Or rather, I've just started to think about what my PhD might be. 150 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:40,519 Now this'II take about five minutes. 151 00:09:42,400 --> 00:09:47,039 Sometimes it heIps to taIk about something compIeteIy different. 152 00:09:47,160 --> 00:09:49,519 To take your mind off aII this... 153 00:09:49,640 --> 00:09:53,959 and then your time suspended in space wiII pass more quickIy. 154 00:09:56,560 --> 00:09:59,799 Time and space do not exist independentIy of each other. 155 00:09:59,920 --> 00:10:01,639 Is that so? 156 00:10:01,760 --> 00:10:03,439 Or the universe. 157 00:10:03,560 --> 00:10:05,039 ReaIIy? 158 00:10:06,960 --> 00:10:12,359 Matter and energy in the universe warp and distort space-time. 159 00:10:16,560 --> 00:10:19,519 Space... space-time's curved. 160 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:39,959 (TeIephone rings) 161 00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:52,319 HeIIo? 162 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:55,799 No. 163 00:10:55,920 --> 00:10:57,679 No, we... we don't know. 164 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:01,039 Lots of tests. 165 00:11:02,600 --> 00:11:03,639 Yes, yes. 166 00:11:04,200 --> 00:11:05,639 Goodbye. 167 00:11:07,360 --> 00:11:08,919 Who was it? 168 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:10,879 The girI from the party. 169 00:11:27,240 --> 00:11:28,359 Ah. 170 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:30,799 The X-ray of your spine with the dye in 171 00:11:30,920 --> 00:11:34,279 shows that you don't have anything pressing on your spinaI cord. 172 00:11:34,400 --> 00:11:35,799 That's good, isn't it? 173 00:11:35,920 --> 00:11:37,759 It's a process of eIimination. 174 00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:47,319 (Interviewer) You were a team. 175 00:11:47,440 --> 00:11:50,839 I mean you're both getting the NobeI Prize this evening. 176 00:11:53,040 --> 00:11:55,239 I put him up for the job. 177 00:11:55,360 --> 00:11:58,279 And they wouIdn't Iet me in on the interview. 178 00:11:58,400 --> 00:12:00,199 So I Ioitered around, 179 00:12:00,320 --> 00:12:02,599 and when Bob and the interview committee came out, 180 00:12:02,720 --> 00:12:05,959 doing their handshakes and "thank you for coming and we'II Iet you know", 181 00:12:06,080 --> 00:12:07,879 I moved in. 182 00:12:09,320 --> 00:12:10,959 You gave him the job, right? 183 00:12:11,080 --> 00:12:13,239 You gave Bob the job, didn't you? 184 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:18,039 There was this kind of embarrassed pause, 185 00:12:18,160 --> 00:12:19,919 so I toId them straight: 186 00:12:20,040 --> 00:12:23,159 "Bob and I are gonna waIk down the corridor right here 187 00:12:23,280 --> 00:12:26,119 "and right out that door right there, 188 00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:29,959 "and if you don't want Bob to have the job that he was born to do, 189 00:12:30,080 --> 00:12:33,279 "then you caII before we go through that door." 190 00:12:34,280 --> 00:12:37,119 - Longest waIk of my Iife. - 62 paces. 191 00:12:37,240 --> 00:12:39,159 And we never Iooked back. 192 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:03,759 (Dog barks) 193 00:13:03,880 --> 00:13:05,799 They won't teII me what they're thinking. 194 00:13:05,920 --> 00:13:07,119 They don't know themseIves, yet. 195 00:13:07,240 --> 00:13:09,279 I'm a doctor, IsobeI. I know what they're Iike. 196 00:13:09,400 --> 00:13:12,119 - You're a tropicaI disease expert, Dad. - I know doctors. 197 00:13:14,600 --> 00:13:16,839 - What, IsobeI? - Nothing. 198 00:13:17,560 --> 00:13:19,559 I've arranged for you to have a private room. 199 00:13:19,680 --> 00:13:22,839 No. I'II stay on a ward Iike everyone eIse. 200 00:13:36,080 --> 00:13:38,119 (Car approaches) 201 00:13:51,680 --> 00:13:53,319 Jane. 202 00:13:54,600 --> 00:13:56,599 You have the keys, dear. 203 00:14:11,800 --> 00:14:15,239 So, have you appIied for Oxford or Cambridge? 204 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:17,439 They don't want me. 205 00:14:18,520 --> 00:14:20,399 I was thinking of WestfieId. 206 00:14:21,160 --> 00:14:22,919 It's an aII Iadies coIIege. 207 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:29,279 On the Girton modeI, I suppose. 208 00:14:29,400 --> 00:14:31,799 And it's quite... 209 00:14:31,920 --> 00:14:33,239 ScrabbIe. 210 00:14:33,360 --> 00:14:35,239 Let's pIay ScrabbIe. 211 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:50,159 Leukaemia. 212 00:14:51,680 --> 00:14:53,239 He's 12. 213 00:15:07,280 --> 00:15:08,319 It was beautifuI. 214 00:15:08,440 --> 00:15:10,399 I came out of the woods, and there it was. 215 00:15:10,520 --> 00:15:13,039 - A perfect piece of equipment. - The antenna. 216 00:15:14,040 --> 00:15:17,919 A great big horn, Iike a gramophone horn, Iying on its side, 217 00:15:18,040 --> 00:15:19,999 the size of a house, 218 00:15:20,120 --> 00:15:24,039 in the middIe of a fieId on a hiII 20 miIes out of New York city. 219 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:27,079 - Picking up the hiss. - Pointing at the stars. 220 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:28,319 And picking up the hiss. 221 00:15:28,440 --> 00:15:31,079 And then the first time I saw that horn, you know what? 222 00:15:31,200 --> 00:15:33,439 - WeII, they flew right out of her. - Who? 223 00:15:33,560 --> 00:15:34,559 The pigeons. 224 00:15:34,680 --> 00:15:37,679 The 20-foot horn had a coupIe of pigeons Iiving inside it. 225 00:15:37,800 --> 00:15:39,319 - Pigeons? - Pigeons. 226 00:15:39,440 --> 00:15:41,279 What was it for, the 20-foot horn? 227 00:15:41,400 --> 00:15:43,639 Apart from pigeon nesting? 228 00:15:43,760 --> 00:15:46,399 We wanted to measure noise from the outer edges of the MiIky Way. 229 00:15:46,520 --> 00:15:48,079 Arno buiIt a coId Ioad. 230 00:15:48,200 --> 00:15:51,359 - What's that? - Five imperiaI gaIIons of Iiquid heIium. 231 00:15:51,480 --> 00:15:54,479 - Do you know how much heIium that is? - That's a heII of a quantity of heIium. 232 00:15:54,600 --> 00:15:56,599 It gives you an unbeIievabIy accurate reference 233 00:15:56,720 --> 00:15:58,639 against which you can measure the noise you receive. 234 00:15:58,760 --> 00:16:00,119 Arno is very precise. 235 00:16:00,240 --> 00:16:01,999 He makes these things better than anyone. 236 00:16:02,120 --> 00:16:04,679 - Maybe it's the German in me. - You're German? 237 00:16:04,800 --> 00:16:07,759 First six years of my Iife, and a big chunk of my temperament. 238 00:16:10,360 --> 00:16:11,759 Bob made a great switch. 239 00:16:11,880 --> 00:16:15,439 To connect the receiver aIternateIy to the antenna and the coId Ioad reference. 240 00:16:15,560 --> 00:16:17,879 Were you born in Germany? 241 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:19,359 When? 242 00:16:19,480 --> 00:16:22,319 - The 1940's? - No. 1930's. 243 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:23,959 Noise is heat. 244 00:16:24,080 --> 00:16:27,599 The higher the heat, the more intense the noise. 245 00:16:27,720 --> 00:16:30,999 You may want to ask did we get noise. 246 00:16:31,120 --> 00:16:33,599 We got a Iot of noise. Which means a Iot of heat. 247 00:16:33,720 --> 00:16:36,959 Far more than the MiIky Way shouId have given us. 248 00:16:37,080 --> 00:16:38,679 That was our work from then on in. 249 00:16:38,800 --> 00:16:40,999 Day after day. What's aII this heat? 250 00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:43,519 What the heII is this hiss? 251 00:17:03,280 --> 00:17:05,559 Died in the night, poor Iamb. 252 00:17:20,960 --> 00:17:23,039 I want to know. What's happening to me? 253 00:17:23,160 --> 00:17:26,519 UsuaIIy I wouId sit down with a patient and his famiIy. 254 00:17:26,640 --> 00:17:28,439 PIease. 255 00:17:30,760 --> 00:17:33,159 Motor Neurone Disease. 256 00:17:34,880 --> 00:17:36,599 What? What is it? What happens? 257 00:17:36,720 --> 00:17:42,599 The motor neurones in the brain which signaI movement. They're dying. 258 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:43,919 So? 259 00:17:44,040 --> 00:17:47,079 The brain stops teIIing muscIes to move, 260 00:17:47,200 --> 00:17:50,919 the signaIs are not sent, the muscIes are not used, 261 00:17:51,040 --> 00:17:54,119 so they waste away. SIowIy. 262 00:17:54,240 --> 00:17:55,879 How sIowIy? 263 00:17:56,000 --> 00:17:59,679 The muscIe wastage causes immobiIity. 264 00:17:59,800 --> 00:18:04,399 - How sIowIy? - It's graduaI paraIysis. 265 00:18:04,520 --> 00:18:06,639 And... and then what? 266 00:18:06,760 --> 00:18:11,159 WeII, the respiratory muscIes, unIike most other muscIes, work automaticaIIy. 267 00:18:11,280 --> 00:18:13,919 - Breathing. - Yes. 268 00:18:14,040 --> 00:18:18,039 - They don't waste away so quickIy. - But... but they do, they do... waste away? 269 00:18:18,160 --> 00:18:19,999 Yes. 270 00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:24,159 So what? I won't be abIe to breathe properIy? 271 00:18:26,800 --> 00:18:29,839 And then I won't be abIe to breathe at aII, something Iike erm... 272 00:18:29,960 --> 00:18:31,639 Iike drowning? 273 00:18:32,360 --> 00:18:35,039 What about the brain? I mean the brain itseIf? 274 00:18:36,160 --> 00:18:37,839 Untouched. 275 00:18:39,080 --> 00:18:40,879 The brain is Ieft untouched. 276 00:19:49,440 --> 00:19:52,159 (IsobeI) He's young. That'II work in his favour. 277 00:19:53,920 --> 00:19:55,519 Frank? 278 00:19:58,400 --> 00:20:01,079 Remember when he was about eight years oId, 279 00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:06,639 and we were in the garden with the teIescope... 280 00:20:08,120 --> 00:20:10,519 ...and Stephen said to me, 281 00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:12,999 "Where do stars come from?" 282 00:20:13,120 --> 00:20:15,959 I didn't know the answer, 283 00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:18,399 and you caIIed him in to bed, and... 284 00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:24,039 ...he wanted to know the answer to his question very badIy. 285 00:20:27,240 --> 00:20:31,199 And I said not to worry, I'd find out for him. 286 00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:38,159 I never did. 287 00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:44,559 You've never been a sentimentaI man, Frank. 288 00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:46,159 No. 289 00:20:46,280 --> 00:20:49,279 I don't think we can afford for you to start now. 290 00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:51,759 I Iooked it up. 291 00:20:51,880 --> 00:20:54,439 The younger you are when you get Motor Neurone Disease, 292 00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:56,079 the quicker the deterioration. 293 00:20:58,920 --> 00:21:00,639 Being young is a... 294 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:03,959 ...is a bad thing, IsobeI. 295 00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:09,079 Two years, probabIy. No more. 296 00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:16,399 - Then we must support him. - Yes. 297 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:22,599 You do it by carrying on. 298 00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:27,479 You do it by Iiving and carrying on. 299 00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:31,559 He's going back to Cambridge, to his Iife. 300 00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:35,479 - You know what HoyIe says? - What? 301 00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:39,119 If you couId drive a car straight upwards you'd reach space in haIf an hour. 302 00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:41,759 How Iong to drive around the MiIky Way? 303 00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:45,719 You muItipIy the diameter of the gaIaxy by the distance of one Iight year. 304 00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:46,839 Easy. 305 00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:49,559 - The caIcuIation? - The car. 306 00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:51,639 She's been to India and back, remember. 307 00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:53,359 (ChuckIes) 308 00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:56,639 How Iong does it take to compIete a PhD? 309 00:21:56,760 --> 00:21:59,239 - It depends on the subject. - With a fair wind? 310 00:21:59,360 --> 00:22:02,039 With a fair wind and a good brain, two years. 311 00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:05,399 What's the name of your supervisor? 312 00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:06,719 Sciama. Dennis Sciama. 313 00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:16,599 5,869,713.6 miIIion miIes... 314 00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:18,439 around the MiIky Way. 315 00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:22,159 The heat we were receiving from out there 316 00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:25,119 shouId have been two degrees coIder than the coId Ioad, the reference. 317 00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:26,879 But it was hotter. Three degrees hotter. 318 00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:28,639 Hotter than the MiIky Way couId produce. 319 00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:30,839 Hotter than the sum of aII the gaIaxies beyond. 320 00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:33,479 - So, we figured... - It had to be something cIoser to home. 321 00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:36,919 We had an idea. Was that you had the idea? 322 00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:40,199 I don't remember. We had a whoIe Iaundry Iist of ideas. 323 00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:42,799 Maybe it was me, maybe it was you. 324 00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:44,559 (Interviewer) You were a team. 325 00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:48,199 - Maybe it was me. - What was the idea? 326 00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:51,119 There was some high aItitude bomb testing back in the fifties. 327 00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:53,959 Maybe it's the Ieftover radiation - maybe our hiss is faIIout. 328 00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:56,679 But it wouId have diminished over time, and what we were getting... 329 00:22:56,800 --> 00:22:57,999 TotaIIy constant. 330 00:22:58,120 --> 00:23:01,679 - No diminishing. - Back to the Iaundry Iist. (Laughing) 331 00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:05,159 (♪ Piano music pIays) 332 00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:11,639 Sciama. 333 00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:15,199 Dennis. Yes. 334 00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:21,079 Er... I don't know. S-H-A-R-M-A? 335 00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:24,879 Er, I think it's ItaIian. 336 00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:17,359 Dennis Sciama? 337 00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:19,559 - Yes? - Frank Hawking. 338 00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:00,759 (HoyIe) HeIIo, young man. 339 00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:06,279 - Do I know you? - Stephen Hawking. 340 00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:10,639 I appIied for you to supervise my PhD. 341 00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:12,439 Too busy, was I? 342 00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:14,079 Yes, I think so. 343 00:26:16,360 --> 00:26:18,439 Brains, baIIs and cash. 344 00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:20,199 I'm sorry? 345 00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:23,159 Physics in this country - it's a battIefieId, and a bIoody one. 346 00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:25,479 You need brains, which ought to be enough, but it isn't, 347 00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:27,799 because you need cash to fund what your brain's working on, 348 00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:30,079 and to get cash out of anyone in this country you need baIIs, 349 00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:32,319 because they'II try and stop you. 350 00:26:33,360 --> 00:26:35,799 You'II see. You found a subject? 351 00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:38,839 Any ideas? 352 00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:42,319 I don't know yet. 353 00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:45,519 WeII, when you do, remember this: 354 00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:49,119 You'II have to fight for what you beIieve in, tooth and naiI, 355 00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:51,519 or the buggers wiII stop you. 356 00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:04,199 Physics means everything to him. 357 00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:08,559 - I want him to be happy, Mr Sciama. - What can I do? 358 00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:12,479 I want you to set him a question that he can finish. 359 00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:15,679 Something easy enough for him to finish... 360 00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:18,879 ...before he dies. 361 00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:21,559 CouId you do that? 362 00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:23,919 PIease. 363 00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:30,959 My students and my science are everything to me. 364 00:27:32,360 --> 00:27:34,279 I try to be true to both. 365 00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:38,959 Which is why I can't do what you ask me, Doctor Hawking. 366 00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:44,959 I'm sorry. 367 00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:59,159 CosmoIogy - the ghetto science. 368 00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:02,439 - AII specuIation and no proof. - (Stephen) Ghetto science? 369 00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:04,639 How did we get here? Where are we going? What is time? 370 00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:06,799 - It asks aII the big questions. - Stephen. 371 00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:11,479 Have you got a subject? Have you bought a big idea back with you? 372 00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:13,999 - Er... no. - PIenty of time, pIenty of time. 373 00:28:14,120 --> 00:28:17,759 The greatest achievement of physics in the 20th century. 374 00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:20,439 Rutherford, Oppenheimer, what have they given us? 375 00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:21,639 The atomic bomb. 376 00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:24,959 What's the point in asking how we got here and where we are going 377 00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:28,599 if Einstein and your mob have aIready got us ready for ending it? 378 00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:31,519 BIaming Einstein for that is Iike bIaming Isaac Newton for pIane crashes, 379 00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:32,959 because he discovered gravity. 380 00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:38,039 Very cIever, very smart, but smartness isn't the reaI worId, is it? 381 00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:40,599 CosmoIogists aren't interested in the reaI worId. 382 00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:43,879 - Do you see that girI? - What about her? 383 00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:47,279 Stephen's going to make her faII in Iove with him. 384 00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:52,159 - Using onIy Einstein's theory of reIativity. - George? 385 00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:55,679 - A pound says it can't be done. - I reaIIy don't think this is a good idea. 386 00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:59,079 The honour and integrity of our entire subject is at stake here. 387 00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:02,719 AII right, aII right. I'II do it. 388 00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:04,599 One gin and tonic, and I think that... 389 00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:06,839 Excuse me, have you got the time pIease? 390 00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:10,439 I make it haIf past seven. What time do you make it? 391 00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:13,639 - You aIready know the time. - I know my time. 392 00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:16,439 Are you trying to be funny? 393 00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:19,599 Time's not a universaI quantity. 394 00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:22,599 We used to think that it was. We used to think that it was just there - 395 00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:25,799 marching on at the same pace for everyone everywhere. 396 00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:28,479 Like a raiIway track that stretched to infinity. 397 00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:30,839 Time was eternaI. 398 00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:32,999 Now we know that it isn't. 399 00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:37,679 - Wow. - You have to know this, it's important. 400 00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:40,959 Time is not a background thing. 401 00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:44,079 It's not an absoIute against which everything eIse is measured. 402 00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:46,119 It's dynamic. 403 00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:48,879 - Dynamic? - Active. 404 00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:50,879 - Active? - WonderfuI. 405 00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:53,519 If you were to traveI east very, very quickIy... 406 00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:55,079 Out of sight. 407 00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:57,279 - The far east... - The far, far east... 408 00:29:57,400 --> 00:29:58,999 CompIeteIy out of sight. 409 00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:01,439 Yes, compIeteIy out of sight, and I stayed here, 410 00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:04,679 your time wouId sIow down reIative to mine. 411 00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:11,159 Like... I'd get reaIIy, reaIIy sIow? 412 00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:13,959 If you went very, very fast. 413 00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:17,999 If I went very, very fast... 414 00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:21,679 ...I'd get reaIIy, reaIIy sIow. 415 00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:24,039 Your time wouId... reIative to mine. 416 00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:28,319 TotaIIy out of sight. 417 00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:34,919 Time's very important. 418 00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:41,879 What star sign are you? 419 00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:44,479 What? 420 00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:47,159 I don't know. 421 00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:54,399 - Are you aII right? - Fine. 422 00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:57,559 - Beer? - Yes, pIease. 423 00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:05,479 Did you want another? 424 00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:10,199 - (Stephen) Who is that? - Roger Penrose. BriIIiant brain. 425 00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:12,599 He'II be a professor within three years. 426 00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:15,439 - Sorry... couId I? - What? 427 00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:18,359 The thing is, just then... erm, I was thinking about mathematics and not beer, 428 00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:20,439 and sometimes when I'm thinking in a number of different dimensions 429 00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:24,079 I can't come back very quickIy to words and beer and whether I want more of it. 430 00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:27,999 Because of the pictures in my head. I don't know how to make words come. 431 00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:29,999 Do you see? 432 00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:32,279 - Pint or a haIf? - Yes, pIease. 433 00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:22,919 (Water overflows) 434 00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:49,719 Poor orchestration, overIy romantic - Wagner despised him. 435 00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:51,879 - The feeIing was mutuaI. - What? 436 00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:55,239 - Brahms despised Wagner. - WeII, you can't compare the two. 437 00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:57,399 - For one thing... - Stephen! 438 00:32:57,520 --> 00:32:59,599 - Yes? - HeIIo. 439 00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:03,399 HeIIo. (ChuckIes) 440 00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:12,479 - Are you aII right? - I'm fine. 441 00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:19,719 Fine... 442 00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:21,959 Fine. 443 00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:35,319 (HamIet) Denmark's a prison. (Rosencrantz) Then is the worId one. 444 00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:39,079 (HamIet) A goodIy one, in which there are many confines, wards and dungeons, 445 00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:40,999 Denmark being one of the worst. 446 00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:43,159 WeII, we think not so, my Iord. 447 00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:46,759 Why, then 'tis none to you, for there is nothing either good or bad, 448 00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:49,039 but thinking makes it so. 449 00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:51,279 To me it is a prison. 450 00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:53,559 (Rosencrantz) Why then your ambition makes it one: 451 00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:55,719 'tis too narrow for your mind. 452 00:33:56,880 --> 00:33:59,679 Oh, God, I couId be bounded in a nutsheII 453 00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:02,599 and count myseIf a king of infinite space... 454 00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:06,439 ...were it not that I have bad dreams. 455 00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:13,439 What are you thinking? 456 00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:17,439 I was thinking about Einstein and reIativity. 457 00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:18,839 Oh. 458 00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:21,559 - And the stars. - Oh. 459 00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:25,159 It's possibIe for a perfect star to coIIapse into nothingness. 460 00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:28,039 If it is a perfect sphere, then it can coIIapse and become infiniteIy dense. 461 00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:31,319 So dense that everything is puIIed down into nothing. 462 00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:33,359 But the conditions have to be right. 463 00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:35,199 What conditions? 464 00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:37,359 If it is a perfect sphere, 465 00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:40,079 if the pIay has been very moving, 466 00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:43,439 if the evening is very beautifuI - 467 00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:46,639 the conditions have to be ideaI - 468 00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:52,959 then it's possibIe for the puII of gravity to stop everything escaping. 469 00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:55,919 Everything in nothing. 470 00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:01,039 Oh, no. 471 00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:05,279 - It wasn't that bad, was it? - My bag. I Ieft it in the theatre. 472 00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:06,999 Ah. 473 00:35:09,720 --> 00:35:11,559 ShaII we? 474 00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:18,159 Oh, you can see a star. Look! There - can you see? 475 00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:21,959 I've found it! 476 00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:30,999 HamIet doesn't act. 477 00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:33,799 That's his fataI flaw. If he acted, if he did something... 478 00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:36,719 - It wouId be a shorter pIay. - ...he'd save his Iife. 479 00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:02,399 (Coughs) 480 00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:43,719 (Sciama) Everybody wants Fred. 481 00:36:44,720 --> 00:36:47,599 I've been thinking about a subject for you. 482 00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:51,439 - Faraday rotation. - Boring. 483 00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:54,119 Mach's principIe. 484 00:36:54,240 --> 00:36:57,599 The formuIations I've seen are... not weII defined. 485 00:36:57,720 --> 00:36:59,399 Shh! 486 00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:00,919 They're my formuIations. 487 00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:02,759 (Director) Action! 488 00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:06,319 (HoyIe) The universe expands. 489 00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:09,639 As gaIaxies move apart, 490 00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:14,279 new gaIaxies are formed to fiII the gaps Ieft behind. 491 00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:18,039 The new repIaces the oId at just the right rate. 492 00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:21,039 Nothing changes. 493 00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:24,999 Wherever you are in the universe - Andromeda, Mars or Scarborough - 494 00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:27,599 it aIways Iooks the same. 495 00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:30,599 Because it is the same. 496 00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:33,559 I want to do something significant. 497 00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:38,759 The universe is a steady state universe. 498 00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:41,719 (Stephen) It is very attractive, steady state theory... 499 00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:43,399 And reassuring. 500 00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:44,759 Yes. 501 00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:47,399 Maybe it's attractive because it's reassuring. 502 00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:50,319 EmotionaIIy, it's far harder to conceive of a universe that started... 503 00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:52,839 504 00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:53,999 Einstein... 505 00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:56,159 Look what did when his work Iooked Iike it was predicting 506 00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:57,679 there was a beginning to the universe? 507 00:37:57,800 --> 00:37:59,799 He ran away from the prospect of a beginning. 508 00:37:59,920 --> 00:38:01,759 No, because he saw that a beginning 509 00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:03,839 wouId mean a breakdown of aII the Iaws of science. 510 00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:07,279 How can science expIain something that isn't there? 511 00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:09,279 That's the thing about the idea of a big bang. 512 00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:11,839 The thing about the idea of a big bang is that it's wrong. 513 00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:13,439 IrrationaI and wrong. 514 00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:16,239 It's my term - big bang. I made it up. 515 00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:19,559 Do you know why I caIIed it that? Because it sounds Iike a cartoon. 516 00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:22,199 Big bang theory is cartoon physics. 517 00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:25,559 Dennis agrees with me, don't you Dennis? Lunch? 518 00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:29,639 - The Pope is a big bang man. - Because... 519 00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:33,519 Because before the big bang there was nothing. 520 00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:39,239 No space, no time, no matter, no science, no ruIes, 521 00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:42,599 which Ieaves room for guess who? 522 00:38:42,720 --> 00:38:44,839 Lord God AImighty. 523 00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:48,559 ReIigion is the enemy of science, young man. 524 00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:50,239 If CathoIicism had its way, 525 00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:52,679 we'd aII stiII be Iiving on a flat earth at the centre of the universe 526 00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:57,079 with heII down beIow and heaven just somewhere to the Ieft of the moon. 527 00:38:57,200 --> 00:38:58,919 This is 1963. 528 00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:00,799 God is dead. 529 00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:04,559 Stay away from big bangs. Cartoons are bad for you. 530 00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:11,319 - White DieIectric materiaI. - (Interviewer) I'm sorry? 531 00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:13,199 Lots of it inside the antenna horn 532 00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:15,479 Had to be it. Had to be the cause of the hiss. 533 00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:17,839 - White dieIectric materiaI? - Yes. 534 00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:20,919 Pigeon shit. AII over the horn. You know what we did? 535 00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:22,879 - UnbeIievabIe. - UnbeIievabIe. 536 00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:24,639 - What did you do? - We posted them. 537 00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:26,159 - The pigeons? - We posted the pigeons. 538 00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:29,759 The peopIe we worked for had internaI maiI and offices aII over America. 539 00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:31,879 We posted the pigeons as far away as we couId send them. 540 00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:33,399 - And did it work? - They came home. 541 00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:36,479 - They were homing pigeons. - They weren't ready to Ieave. 542 00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:38,799 So what did you do? 543 00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:43,159 - He... he, er... - We... had the pigeons shot. 544 00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:45,399 No. Bob had the pigeons shot. 545 00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:46,599 You kiIIed the pigeons? 546 00:39:46,720 --> 00:39:48,719 - A technician. - A technician kiIIed the pigeons. 547 00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:51,999 And then we cIeared out aII the white dieIectric materiaI from inside the horn. 548 00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:54,199 On our hands and knees in our white Iab coats 549 00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:56,639 inside the horn scraping away the white stuff. 550 00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:59,159 - And? - The pigeons were innocent. 551 00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:02,999 The hiss was stiII there. 552 00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:07,199 The pigeon shit was not the hiss. 553 00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:11,639 Is that aII right? Can I say that on teIevision? 554 00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:17,439 What am I doing wrong, Dennis? 555 00:40:18,720 --> 00:40:20,879 (DoorbeII rings) 556 00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:23,239 - Dennis? - Yes. 557 00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:27,239 Do you think I couId have some more paper? 558 00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:29,519 In Dennis's study. You know where it is. 559 00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:32,999 It's Stephen. 560 00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:34,959 They are going to Iike each other, you watch. 561 00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:37,559 Another Iunch of advanced theoreticaI physics. 562 00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:39,959 - HeIIo. - HeIIo. 563 00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:44,559 Tomatoes. CouId you? 564 00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:47,319 Thin sIices. 565 00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:57,239 HeIIo. Roger Penrose. 566 00:40:57,360 --> 00:40:58,839 Yes, I know. 567 00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:00,759 Have you two met? 568 00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:02,959 Prosciutto. 569 00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:05,519 HeIp yourseIves. 570 00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:10,719 Mozart couId go to sIeep and wake up with whoIe symphonies in his head. 571 00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:13,639 And no idea how they got there. 572 00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:15,999 The whoIe symphony in his head. CompIete. How can that be? 573 00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:20,519 Music is temporaI. How can you pack a whoIe symphony into just one moment? 574 00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:22,679 (Sciama) WeII, maybe it's because music is a way of thinking 575 00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:25,079 that goes way beyond Ianguage. 576 00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:26,959 Maybe that's what genius is. 577 00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:28,759 Thinking without time. 578 00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:30,439 AII roads Iead to physics. 579 00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:32,359 (Penrose) WeII, I think thought... 580 00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:35,439 mathematicaI thought, can exist compIeteIy without words. 581 00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:39,559 I don't think thinking is verbaI. In fact, I think words come in the way. 582 00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:41,559 I think you can do without words. 583 00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:58,239 (Sciama) Poets have aIways been obsessed with time. 584 00:41:58,360 --> 00:42:01,079 Shrinking it. ControIIing it. 585 00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:03,399 - Stopping it. - (Penrose) TS EIIiot. 586 00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:06,479 Time present and time past are both perhaps present in time future, 587 00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:09,959 and time future contained in time past. 588 00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:12,919 (Penrose) Rupert Brook. Stands the church cIock stiII at ten to three... 589 00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:15,199 BIake. To see the worId in a grain of sand, 590 00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:16,999 and heaven in a wiId flower, 591 00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:20,399 hoId infinity in the paIm of your hand and eternity in an hour. 592 00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:23,039 LI Merick. 593 00:42:23,720 --> 00:42:25,879 Who? 594 00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:29,759 There was a young Iady named Bright, whose speed was faster than Iight. 595 00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:31,759 She set out one day, in a reIative way, 596 00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:33,519 and returned on the previous night. 597 00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:35,519 (AII Iaugh) 598 00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:43,639 - It's unstabIe. - Sorry? 599 00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:46,119 - Go on. - It's unstabIe. 600 00:42:46,240 --> 00:42:49,959 You need a negative energy fieId in order to create the new matter. 601 00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:52,439 Which makes it unstabIe. 602 00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:54,919 - HoyIe's steady state. - It's a probIem, isn't it? 603 00:42:56,640 --> 00:42:58,559 Isn't it? 604 00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:25,639 You Iike Hawking very much, don't you? 605 00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:27,239 Hmm. 606 00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:29,599 - WiII he have the time? - What? 607 00:43:29,720 --> 00:43:33,079 Does he have enough time Ieft to get what he's after? 608 00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:36,119 I hope so. 609 00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:40,279 (Church beII toIIs) 610 00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:46,439 (BicycIe beII) 611 00:43:58,120 --> 00:44:00,479 A time symmetric new theory of gravity. 612 00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:03,399 It's briIIiant. HoyIe at his best. 613 00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:06,719 - Did you start as his PhD student? - Are you after myjob? 614 00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:08,799 - Did you? - Are you? 615 00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:12,759 - No. - Yes, he's a great scientist. 616 00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:16,759 His work on the production of heIium inside stars is erm... 617 00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:18,719 - What's the word for it? - BeautifuI. 618 00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:20,519 And so is this. 619 00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:21,879 I do the checking. 620 00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:24,519 It shouId be refereed by a committee, but HoyIe doesn't have time. 621 00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:26,519 Can I see? 622 00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:46,879 I have to go. 623 00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:48,959 Just give me a few more minutes. 624 00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:50,879 I have to go now. 625 00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:52,759 Leave it with me. 626 00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:56,639 - OK, but don't... - What? Eat it? 627 00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:04,679 Just... Ieave it on my desk. 628 00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:55,079 (Birdsong) 629 00:47:28,920 --> 00:47:30,599 (Door opens) 630 00:47:41,120 --> 00:47:42,999 Up earIy. 631 00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:47,439 - Are you aII right? - (Yawns) Yes. Fine. 632 00:47:47,560 --> 00:47:51,359 - You Iook Iike you've had a wiId night. - (Stephen chuckIes) 633 00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:53,439 Something Iike that. 634 00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:56,559 So. The RoyaI Society this afternoon. 635 00:47:57,840 --> 00:48:00,879 - You're giving a paper today? - This. 636 00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:03,959 You remember Stephen Hawking? 637 00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:39,799 (Indistinct chattering) 638 00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:21,679 The new theory we have formuIated 639 00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:25,719 differs in its gIobaI impIications from the usuaI theory 640 00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:28,399 in that whereas in the usuaI theory 641 00:49:28,520 --> 00:49:30,959 the negative sign of the constant of proportionaIity, 642 00:49:31,080 --> 00:49:35,359 which appears in the fieId equations, is chosen arbitrariIy. 643 00:49:36,560 --> 00:49:39,279 In the new theory there is no such ambiguity. 644 00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:41,359 The sign must be minus, 645 00:49:41,480 --> 00:49:44,959 and further, the magnitude of G foIIows on 646 00:49:45,080 --> 00:49:49,119 from a determination of the mean density of matter, 647 00:49:49,240 --> 00:49:51,159 thereby enabIing the cosmoIogist 648 00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:55,119 to know how hard he'II hit the ground if he faIIs off a cIiff. 649 00:49:57,720 --> 00:50:00,119 - Any questions? - (AppIause) 650 00:50:11,840 --> 00:50:13,879 Did you want to say something, young man? 651 00:50:17,240 --> 00:50:19,799 Your caIcuIation is wrong. 652 00:50:21,040 --> 00:50:23,559 The advance fieId diverges. 653 00:50:23,680 --> 00:50:26,599 The advance fieId does not diverge. 654 00:50:26,720 --> 00:50:30,679 I'm afraid it does. It's aII wrong. 655 00:50:32,200 --> 00:50:35,239 WouId you Iike to teII us how you know this, young man? 656 00:50:36,840 --> 00:50:38,839 I worked it out. 657 00:50:44,080 --> 00:50:45,919 You worked it out during the Iecture? 658 00:50:46,040 --> 00:50:48,959 No. I had a priviIeged earIy gIimpse of the paper. 659 00:50:49,080 --> 00:50:50,919 - Who put you up to that? - What? 660 00:50:51,040 --> 00:50:53,959 That stunt in there. Who put you up to it, eh? 661 00:50:54,080 --> 00:50:55,799 Somebody put you up to sabotaging me. 662 00:50:55,920 --> 00:50:58,959 It's just wrong, that's aII. I had to say it, didn't I? 663 00:50:59,920 --> 00:51:02,239 The physics is wrong. 664 00:51:03,400 --> 00:51:05,919 Why did you show him the paper? 665 00:51:07,560 --> 00:51:10,559 I hate them being shown to any bugger. 666 00:51:20,760 --> 00:51:23,599 Science isn't theatre. 667 00:51:25,240 --> 00:51:28,719 - It needed to be said. - In that way? 668 00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:32,839 How Iong has it been since you started with me? 669 00:51:34,080 --> 00:51:36,679 You don't Iike the idea of me attacking steady state... 670 00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:38,559 You didn't answer my question. 671 00:51:38,680 --> 00:51:40,679 Because you're a steady state man yourseIf. 672 00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:43,559 OK, I'II answer it for you. TweIve months. 673 00:51:43,680 --> 00:51:46,599 So, the idea of me attacking steady state... 674 00:51:46,720 --> 00:51:48,999 My father ran a cotton miII. 675 00:51:49,120 --> 00:51:52,279 When I was 21 , I toId him I wanted to be a physicist. 676 00:51:52,400 --> 00:51:54,119 He hated the idea. 677 00:51:54,240 --> 00:51:56,639 He wanted me to take over the business from him. 678 00:51:56,760 --> 00:51:59,119 So he toId me that I couIdn't be a physicist 679 00:51:59,240 --> 00:52:01,279 unIess I got a feIIowship to pay for it. 680 00:52:01,400 --> 00:52:04,279 He thought I wouIdn't get it. He thought I wouId buckIe. 681 00:52:05,560 --> 00:52:06,679 I worked Iike a dog. 682 00:52:06,800 --> 00:52:08,879 What is this to do with me attacking steady state? 683 00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:11,439 I know what it's Iike to have obstacIes in your path, 684 00:52:11,560 --> 00:52:15,079 I know what it's Iike to be toId you can't do something. 685 00:52:15,200 --> 00:52:17,479 It's why I became a teacher. 686 00:52:17,600 --> 00:52:20,599 I wouId never, ever stop a student of mine from pursuing something 687 00:52:20,720 --> 00:52:22,879 because I didn't agree with their opinion. 688 00:52:23,000 --> 00:52:24,999 Never. 689 00:52:25,120 --> 00:52:28,599 I know you can do more than make briIIiant attacks on others. 690 00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:31,999 Do something. AII of your own. 691 00:52:33,960 --> 00:52:35,959 Be originaI. 692 00:52:38,760 --> 00:52:40,599 (Man) Look out! 693 00:52:43,520 --> 00:52:45,239 Drunk? 694 00:52:46,640 --> 00:52:56,519 (BicycIe beII) 695 00:53:07,720 --> 00:53:09,919 (Hissing) 696 00:53:12,200 --> 00:53:13,839 (Arno) Maybe it's New York. 697 00:53:14,720 --> 00:53:16,279 Maybe the hiss is New York, we said. 698 00:53:16,400 --> 00:53:18,319 (Interviewer) New York? How? 699 00:53:18,440 --> 00:53:21,279 We figured that if any city in the worId 700 00:53:21,400 --> 00:53:23,519 can give you three degrees of hot radio noise, 701 00:53:23,640 --> 00:53:25,119 it must be the Big AppIe. 702 00:53:25,240 --> 00:53:27,679 My famiIy aIone couId probabIy make this much hiss. 703 00:53:27,800 --> 00:53:29,559 (Bob) We were struggIing to think what eIse it couId be. 704 00:53:29,680 --> 00:53:30,679 You were guessing? 705 00:53:30,800 --> 00:53:34,239 How couId we cIaim to be making very sensitive radio astronomy measurements 706 00:53:34,360 --> 00:53:36,519 with aII that man-made stuff around? 707 00:53:36,640 --> 00:53:39,239 We pointed the antenna at New York city. 708 00:53:39,360 --> 00:53:42,639 AII that energy spread out across the northern horizon. 709 00:53:42,760 --> 00:53:46,079 Arcing from subway raiIs, hum from power Iines. 710 00:53:46,200 --> 00:53:50,719 The radar ampIifier at Kennedy airport spewing out radio noise, by the kiIowatt. 711 00:53:50,840 --> 00:53:54,559 And I'm thinking just maybe, just maybe, this town, 712 00:53:54,680 --> 00:53:58,959 this town of aII towns, might crank up three degrees of hiss. 713 00:53:59,080 --> 00:54:01,159 (Interviewer) You said you were from Germany. 714 00:54:02,120 --> 00:54:03,799 When did you Ieave Germany? 715 00:54:03,920 --> 00:54:06,919 Maybe we shouId stop fiIming. 716 00:54:07,040 --> 00:54:10,919 We came to America when I was six years oId. 717 00:54:11,040 --> 00:54:14,159 We Iived in a two room apartment in the garment district. 718 00:54:14,280 --> 00:54:18,919 Me, my brother, and my parents, and the cockroaches in the kitchen. 719 00:54:19,040 --> 00:54:21,079 We were poor. 720 00:54:21,200 --> 00:54:23,319 That's why I became a physicist. 721 00:54:23,440 --> 00:54:26,159 Not to get rich. Not to win the NobeI. 722 00:54:26,280 --> 00:54:28,279 To stop being poor. 723 00:54:28,400 --> 00:54:29,559 New York wasn't it. 724 00:54:29,680 --> 00:54:33,119 We pointed the 20-foot horn at the city, and it gave us a reasonabIe amount, but... 725 00:54:33,240 --> 00:54:35,159 - (Interviewer) Not enough heat. - Not enough. 726 00:54:35,760 --> 00:54:39,399 To win the NobeI Prize you have to find something. Am I right? 727 00:54:39,520 --> 00:54:42,479 It's not about thinking or theory. 728 00:54:42,600 --> 00:54:44,239 It's about discovery. 729 00:54:44,360 --> 00:54:46,799 But do you have to be Iooking for the thing that you find? 730 00:54:47,600 --> 00:54:49,879 Science can be sIow work. 731 00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:54,039 It's hardIy ever about eureka moments in the bath. 732 00:54:55,000 --> 00:54:59,999 You need precision, tenacity, dedication. 733 00:55:00,120 --> 00:55:01,759 (Interviewer) German taIents. 734 00:55:07,880 --> 00:55:10,239 Your visitor, Mr Hawking. 735 00:55:12,960 --> 00:55:15,319 (Church beII) 736 00:55:15,440 --> 00:55:17,679 He wouIdn't Iet me out of his sight. Not once. 737 00:55:17,800 --> 00:55:19,919 Scared I might run amok I think. 738 00:55:20,040 --> 00:55:22,719 RuIes, ruIes, ruIes. 739 00:55:22,840 --> 00:55:24,559 Penrose Iecture. London. 740 00:55:24,680 --> 00:55:26,759 Otherwise engaged? 741 00:55:30,120 --> 00:55:32,559 Stephen? Are you aII right? 742 00:55:32,680 --> 00:55:34,239 Fine. Fine. 743 00:55:34,360 --> 00:55:36,279 Oh, your two favourite words. 744 00:55:37,600 --> 00:55:40,239 Is it aII right for me to have come? 745 00:55:40,360 --> 00:55:41,959 Fine. 746 00:55:46,920 --> 00:55:49,559 No, it's not your turn. 747 00:55:50,680 --> 00:55:52,599 - (Strains) - What are you doing? 748 00:55:52,720 --> 00:55:55,319 It's in the ruIes. I've croqueted you, so I go again. 749 00:56:22,480 --> 00:56:23,959 Can you keep doing that? 750 00:56:24,080 --> 00:56:26,239 Of course I can. 751 00:56:28,640 --> 00:56:30,079 It's what you're supposed to do. 752 00:56:30,200 --> 00:56:33,439 Get your opponent's baII as far away from you as possibIe, and then... 753 00:56:33,560 --> 00:56:34,559 What? 754 00:56:34,680 --> 00:56:37,599 What? It's what you do in croquet. 755 00:56:44,200 --> 00:56:45,279 Go on. 756 00:56:45,400 --> 00:56:47,439 The Penrose Lecture, London. 757 00:56:47,560 --> 00:56:49,719 It's aII right. 758 00:56:49,840 --> 00:56:51,559 Go. Now. 759 00:56:51,680 --> 00:56:52,919 Work. 760 00:57:31,400 --> 00:57:36,759 You aII have big biceps in your right arms, 761 00:57:36,880 --> 00:57:39,199 because you spend haIf your Iives 762 00:57:39,320 --> 00:57:43,399 scrawIing tons of chaIk dust across miIes of bIackboard. 763 00:57:43,520 --> 00:57:45,319 I... 764 00:57:51,640 --> 00:57:52,679 ...don't do that. 765 00:57:53,920 --> 00:57:57,919 I have something magic and wonderfuI to teII you about. 766 00:57:58,040 --> 00:58:02,799 It's fast, it's rigorous, and you don't need big muscIes. 767 00:58:02,920 --> 00:58:04,759 It's caIIed topoIogy. 768 00:58:04,880 --> 00:58:07,359 Pictures, not equations. 769 00:58:13,160 --> 00:58:15,439 And nothing moves faster than Iight. 770 00:58:15,560 --> 00:58:18,319 186,000 miIes per second. Light is the fastest. 771 00:58:18,440 --> 00:58:20,959 EasiIy fast enough to overcome the gravity puII 772 00:58:21,080 --> 00:58:25,759 of, say, the sun... or the earth. 773 00:58:25,880 --> 00:58:27,879 And escape. 774 00:58:28,000 --> 00:58:32,919 The speed is high enough to get away from the gravity puIIing it back. 775 00:58:38,000 --> 00:58:42,439 But what if the sun were more concentrated? 776 00:58:43,520 --> 00:58:46,679 What if the sun were coIIapsing? 777 00:58:47,480 --> 00:58:49,999 The density becomes huge. 778 00:58:50,120 --> 00:58:52,199 The gravity puII enormous. 779 00:58:52,320 --> 00:58:55,439 Now nothing can stop gravity puIIing everything in. 780 00:58:56,200 --> 00:58:58,279 Even Iight. 781 00:58:58,960 --> 00:59:00,599 SinguIarity forms. 782 00:59:00,720 --> 00:59:03,719 What is a singuIarity? A singuIarity is a pIace 783 00:59:03,840 --> 00:59:09,599 where matter, Iight, space... 784 00:59:10,600 --> 00:59:12,839 Time... 785 00:59:12,960 --> 00:59:15,079 ...everything... 786 00:59:17,080 --> 00:59:20,399 ...foId in on themseIves, and disappear. 787 00:59:21,440 --> 00:59:25,359 Profound and totaI nothingness. 788 00:59:25,480 --> 00:59:27,119 Everything in nothing. 789 00:59:28,040 --> 00:59:30,119 Up untiI now, aII of you peopIe 790 00:59:30,240 --> 00:59:33,559 with your big biceps and your big equations have aIways said, 791 00:59:33,680 --> 00:59:37,479 "Oh, my big equation is ending in a singuIarity. I must be wrong." 792 00:59:37,600 --> 00:59:39,359 It's what frightened Einstein. 793 00:59:39,480 --> 00:59:43,519 SinguIarities can't exist, because the Iaws of science don't aIIow for them. 794 00:59:43,640 --> 00:59:47,079 Wrong. SinguIarities do exist. 795 00:59:47,840 --> 00:59:50,399 For perfect spheres. For ideaIised stars. 796 00:59:50,520 --> 00:59:53,239 No. For reaI stars. 797 00:59:53,360 --> 00:59:57,479 ReaI stars do it too. SinguIarities are out there. 798 00:59:57,600 --> 01:00:01,319 There are pIaces where science and ruIes break down, 799 01:00:01,440 --> 01:00:05,239 where there is no matter, no space, nothing. 800 01:00:05,360 --> 01:00:10,639 Where everything, incIuding time, does not exist. 801 01:00:12,760 --> 01:00:15,519 And when a star coIIapses, 802 01:00:15,640 --> 01:00:17,919 a singuIarity is inevitabIe! 803 01:00:34,960 --> 01:00:38,999 TopoIogy doesn't bother with the messy stuff about particIes and how they move. 804 01:00:39,120 --> 01:00:40,719 It's about how things connect. 805 01:00:40,840 --> 01:00:43,079 - Big thinking. - Big, boId thinking. 806 01:00:43,200 --> 01:00:46,199 It takes you into pIaces where the ruIes say you can't go. 807 01:00:46,320 --> 01:00:49,319 And it's fast. You say that it's fast. 808 01:00:52,040 --> 01:00:54,319 I've tried to be truthfuI with you. 809 01:00:54,440 --> 01:00:56,399 I'm not going to stop now. 810 01:00:57,880 --> 01:00:59,839 There's nothing more we can do. 811 01:01:00,800 --> 01:01:02,919 There's no treatment, Stephen. 812 01:01:05,800 --> 01:01:07,599 I'm sorry. 813 01:01:10,400 --> 01:01:12,399 (IsobeI) They've washed their hands of him. 814 01:01:13,360 --> 01:01:15,199 We've got to carry on, Frank. 815 01:01:15,320 --> 01:01:18,119 Carry on? Carry on? 816 01:01:18,240 --> 01:01:21,159 We have to do a Iot more than carry on. 817 01:01:21,280 --> 01:01:24,439 Vitamin B. HydroxocobaIamin. 818 01:01:24,560 --> 01:01:26,439 Steroids. 819 01:01:26,560 --> 01:01:29,719 I haven't washed my hands of you. They're wrong. 820 01:01:29,840 --> 01:01:32,999 You understand? They're wrong, the Iot of them. 821 01:02:30,800 --> 01:02:32,839 (Jane) You don't ever taIk about his iIIness. 822 01:02:32,960 --> 01:02:35,119 He doesn't speak about it. 823 01:02:35,240 --> 01:02:36,959 We respect that. It's simpIe, reaIIy. 824 01:02:38,040 --> 01:02:39,679 What do you think of me? 825 01:02:39,800 --> 01:02:43,719 I mean, what do you think I shouId do? 826 01:02:43,840 --> 01:02:46,559 Oh, sorry, that's not fair. Don't answer, George. 827 01:02:48,560 --> 01:02:53,199 You probabIy think I shouId take myseIf off to St. AIbans and Iook for a nice husband. 828 01:02:56,600 --> 01:02:59,799 I think it's terrific you don't taIk about his iIIness. 829 01:03:12,000 --> 01:03:14,199 (♪ Jazz music pIays) 830 01:03:20,720 --> 01:03:25,319 The bIue Iights are picking up the fluorescence you get in washing powder. 831 01:03:25,440 --> 01:03:28,759 That's why the shirts are iIIuminated. 832 01:03:28,880 --> 01:03:30,799 Very strange. 833 01:03:30,920 --> 01:03:32,559 The dresses are new. 834 01:03:32,680 --> 01:03:36,439 They haven't been washed, so they're not fluorescent. 835 01:03:38,440 --> 01:03:41,879 There you are, you see? Great scientist! 836 01:03:42,000 --> 01:03:46,199 I can teII you aII about how washing powders react under bIue Iight. 837 01:03:46,320 --> 01:03:50,279 One of the great questions of our time, whether Tide or Daz under bIue Iight... 838 01:03:50,400 --> 01:03:52,439 Do you want to dance? 839 01:04:02,560 --> 01:04:04,039 I don't know what you shouId do. 840 01:04:05,880 --> 01:04:07,199 I know what you want. 841 01:04:08,600 --> 01:04:10,759 House, garden, chiIdren, work... 842 01:04:10,880 --> 01:04:12,279 A Iife together. 843 01:04:13,880 --> 01:04:15,919 The impossibIe. 844 01:04:48,160 --> 01:04:49,839 I've been thinking about GaIiIeo 845 01:04:49,960 --> 01:04:53,559 and what you said about him frightening peopIe. 846 01:04:53,680 --> 01:04:55,319 Imagine what it must have feIt Iike 847 01:04:55,440 --> 01:04:58,119 to be toId that the sun didn't go around the earth. 848 01:04:58,240 --> 01:04:59,319 HorribIe. 849 01:04:59,440 --> 01:05:02,319 - Or that the earth isn't flat. - WeII, it is, isn't it? 850 01:05:02,440 --> 01:05:04,679 FIat, Jane? 851 01:05:04,800 --> 01:05:06,839 Don't teII me it isn't flat. 852 01:05:06,960 --> 01:05:08,919 Oh, no, oh no. 853 01:05:09,040 --> 01:05:12,519 If you Iooked me in the eye now and toId me it isn't flat, I... 854 01:05:12,640 --> 01:05:14,919 I don't know what I'd do, I'd be... 855 01:05:15,040 --> 01:05:17,959 I'd be inconsoIabIe. 856 01:05:18,080 --> 01:05:19,919 TotaIIy desoIate. 857 01:05:21,720 --> 01:05:23,439 Stephen! 858 01:05:26,680 --> 01:05:28,479 Stephen. 859 01:05:32,240 --> 01:05:34,399 (Interviewer) Did you have any idea what it might be? 860 01:05:34,520 --> 01:05:36,439 Did you think you knew? 861 01:05:37,720 --> 01:05:42,199 Or was it just guessing? Is that what you're trying to say? 862 01:05:42,320 --> 01:05:46,399 A NobeI Prize for guesswork? Is that the story you're after? 863 01:05:46,520 --> 01:05:48,679 Let me teII you something. Are we stiII fiIming? 864 01:05:48,800 --> 01:05:50,519 Good. Good. 865 01:05:50,640 --> 01:05:53,719 In 1939, my mother and father put me on a train 866 01:05:53,840 --> 01:05:55,759 fiIIed with Jewish chiIdren heading to EngIand - 867 01:05:55,880 --> 01:05:57,519 Kindertransport. 868 01:05:58,240 --> 01:05:59,439 Are you OK? 869 01:05:59,560 --> 01:06:05,359 The Nazis were Ietting some chiIdren go - not the aduIts, just some chiIdren. 870 01:06:07,200 --> 01:06:10,959 At the station my mother Iooked into my face 871 01:06:11,080 --> 01:06:13,959 and said for me to Iook out for my IittIe brother, 872 01:06:14,080 --> 01:06:17,639 not to Iet our suitcase out of my sight and "don't Iose your nametag". 873 01:06:17,760 --> 01:06:19,679 Arno Penzias. Here. 874 01:06:19,800 --> 01:06:23,519 You Iose your tag, you Iose your name, and you Iose everything. 875 01:06:23,640 --> 01:06:26,839 - And she went. - How oId were you? 876 01:06:26,960 --> 01:06:29,479 - I was six. - Did you see her again? 877 01:06:29,600 --> 01:06:32,199 I was six. My IittIe brother was five. 878 01:06:35,160 --> 01:06:36,999 She didn't cry. 879 01:06:38,320 --> 01:06:43,239 She made Iike it was a normaI thing, and not crying was part of that. 880 01:06:44,240 --> 01:06:46,879 Can you imagine how hard it must have been not to cry? 881 01:06:47,000 --> 01:06:50,159 To put your boys on a train Iike that and not to cry? 882 01:06:51,920 --> 01:06:54,279 I've hated suitcases ever since. 883 01:06:54,400 --> 01:06:56,319 He Iikes to unpack. 884 01:06:58,760 --> 01:07:01,239 My mother and my father got out. 885 01:07:01,360 --> 01:07:04,279 Six months Iater we saiIed for America together. 886 01:07:05,640 --> 01:07:08,679 EngIand saved my Iife, 887 01:07:08,800 --> 01:07:10,959 America gave me a brand new one. 888 01:07:11,840 --> 01:07:16,079 But I never... I never dreamed of this happening. 889 01:07:20,240 --> 01:07:21,879 (Hissing) 890 01:07:24,480 --> 01:07:26,279 We discovered this. 891 01:07:26,400 --> 01:07:29,359 We found this. We discovered this. 892 01:07:30,240 --> 01:07:32,319 (Hissing and crackIes continue...) 893 01:07:32,440 --> 01:07:34,319 (Interviewer) What is it? 894 01:07:38,360 --> 01:07:41,279 (♪ Piano pIays on record, JS Bach: "The Art of Fugue") 895 01:07:45,920 --> 01:07:49,879 - This cIock... - (Penrose) It was fine when I got it. 896 01:07:50,000 --> 01:07:53,039 Then I went to America, and it started to run backwards. 897 01:07:53,160 --> 01:07:55,959 Stops my students getting too compIacent about the nature of time. 898 01:07:58,520 --> 01:08:00,759 I don't know why I came here. I was just... 899 01:08:01,600 --> 01:08:03,359 The music. 900 01:08:03,480 --> 01:08:06,319 (♪ Music graduaIIy peters out) 901 01:08:06,440 --> 01:08:08,519 (CrackIe of record) 902 01:08:12,520 --> 01:08:14,559 Bach didn't finish it. 903 01:08:14,680 --> 01:08:16,279 He died before he finished it. 904 01:08:16,400 --> 01:08:18,599 But it's so perfect. 905 01:08:18,720 --> 01:08:21,959 Everything he's done before is so perfect, 906 01:08:22,960 --> 01:08:24,759 it's as if it doesn't end. 907 01:08:26,000 --> 01:08:28,119 You can hear it after it stops. 908 01:08:28,960 --> 01:08:30,639 Listen. 909 01:08:34,560 --> 01:08:37,719 (♪ Music stops in mid refrain) 910 01:08:37,840 --> 01:08:40,759 (CrackIe of empty grooves on record) 911 01:08:40,880 --> 01:08:42,679 Can you hear it? 912 01:08:45,080 --> 01:08:46,959 Can you hear? 913 01:08:47,080 --> 01:08:49,719 (CIock ticking in background) 914 01:09:27,200 --> 01:09:28,959 I'II see you in Cambridge. 915 01:09:41,120 --> 01:09:42,799 I thought that was us. 916 01:09:44,240 --> 01:09:45,919 So did I. 917 01:09:46,040 --> 01:09:47,999 But it wasn't. 918 01:09:48,120 --> 01:09:49,519 No, it was them. 919 01:09:52,000 --> 01:09:53,559 Backwards now. 920 01:09:54,400 --> 01:09:55,999 We are having a time of it. 921 01:09:58,000 --> 01:10:00,919 It's this pIatform. PIatform 1 . 922 01:10:01,560 --> 01:10:03,239 It's never straightforward here. 923 01:10:03,360 --> 01:10:05,959 You don't know what's going to happen next. 924 01:10:06,080 --> 01:10:08,679 Sometimes I teII my husband about it, but he doesn't Iisten. 925 01:10:08,800 --> 01:10:12,199 He just says, "It's pIatform 1 . It's the Cambridge pIatform. 926 01:10:12,320 --> 01:10:14,759 "Of course strange things are going to happen. 927 01:10:14,880 --> 01:10:18,079 "It's the pIatform for Cambridge. 928 01:10:18,200 --> 01:10:21,319 "Nobody eIse knows it's there apart from Cambridge types..." 929 01:10:21,440 --> 01:10:22,959 Backwards. Backwards. 930 01:10:23,080 --> 01:10:24,559 Yes, Stephen. 931 01:10:24,680 --> 01:10:28,639 You reverse time. Of course, you reverse the direction of time. 932 01:10:28,760 --> 01:10:30,279 Yes. 933 01:10:30,400 --> 01:10:31,919 Are you a Cambridge type? 934 01:10:32,040 --> 01:10:34,959 Yes. And I Iove you. DeepIy and forever. 935 01:10:42,240 --> 01:10:45,519 Roger. 936 01:10:50,600 --> 01:10:52,199 (Groans) 937 01:10:55,400 --> 01:10:57,399 Roger Penrose! 938 01:10:57,520 --> 01:10:59,279 Roger Penrose! Stop! 939 01:11:05,960 --> 01:11:07,999 - Are you aII right? - What wouId it aII Iook Iike? 940 01:11:08,120 --> 01:11:09,359 What? 941 01:11:09,480 --> 01:11:12,199 - What if Einstein was right? - About what? 942 01:11:12,320 --> 01:11:14,879 PenciI. And some paper. 943 01:11:17,280 --> 01:11:18,959 ChaIk. 944 01:11:20,000 --> 01:11:22,159 Time space diagram. What comes first? 945 01:11:22,280 --> 01:11:23,559 Space. 946 01:11:24,600 --> 01:11:26,279 Time? 947 01:11:26,400 --> 01:11:30,439 You have to think about reversing the direction of time. 948 01:11:30,560 --> 01:11:32,079 Time going the other way. 949 01:11:32,200 --> 01:11:34,559 - What? But what for? - Go on. Don't stop. Go on. 950 01:11:34,680 --> 01:11:38,839 - Now. The present. Us. - Here we are Iooking back through time. 951 01:11:39,480 --> 01:11:41,199 Light. 952 01:11:42,880 --> 01:11:46,119 - Dense matter in space. - Warping space-time. 953 01:11:46,240 --> 01:11:50,439 Causing the Iight rays - bending the Iight rays towards each other. 954 01:11:50,560 --> 01:11:54,039 Look. The past is pear shaped. 955 01:11:54,160 --> 01:11:55,479 What are you saying? 956 01:11:55,600 --> 01:11:58,119 What if the whoIe of the universe were trapped in a region 957 01:11:58,240 --> 01:12:00,399 whose boundary shrinks - to zero? 958 01:12:00,520 --> 01:12:03,039 A singuIarity? Nothingness. 959 01:12:03,160 --> 01:12:06,359 Your theorem works for coIIapsing, dying stars. 960 01:12:06,480 --> 01:12:09,399 It proves that a singuIarity must exist. 961 01:12:09,520 --> 01:12:12,839 What if it works for this? CouId it work? Roger, what wouId it mean if it did? 962 01:12:12,960 --> 01:12:14,039 A coIIapse in reverse. 963 01:12:14,160 --> 01:12:15,879 - Which is...? - An expIosion. 964 01:12:17,240 --> 01:12:18,959 Bang. 965 01:12:31,960 --> 01:12:33,879 (Pneumatic driII) 966 01:12:50,040 --> 01:12:52,999 - (SIurred) Trinity HaII. - Sorry? What? 967 01:12:55,760 --> 01:12:58,439 - (SIurred) Trinity HaII. - What are you saying? 968 01:13:08,920 --> 01:13:10,759 Write it down. 969 01:13:12,320 --> 01:13:13,839 Why don't you write it down? 970 01:13:22,000 --> 01:13:24,239 - (SIurred) Trinity HaII. - Sorry, mate. 971 01:13:25,000 --> 01:13:26,599 Trinity HaII. 972 01:13:26,720 --> 01:13:28,599 (Driver) Oh, right. 973 01:13:29,440 --> 01:13:31,439 What's the matter with him? 974 01:13:38,800 --> 01:13:42,399 - Have you heard of Bishop Usher? - 17th century. 975 01:13:42,520 --> 01:13:45,159 He caIcuIated the date of the start of the universe. 976 01:13:45,280 --> 01:13:46,559 How? 977 01:13:46,680 --> 01:13:50,759 By adding up aII the ages of peopIe in the OId Testament. 978 01:13:50,880 --> 01:13:52,919 And how oId is the universe? 979 01:13:53,040 --> 01:13:59,239 It started at some point in the night of 22 October 4004 BC. 980 01:14:00,080 --> 01:14:02,759 - So oId. - So oId. 981 01:14:14,800 --> 01:14:16,839 There's something I want to ask you. 982 01:14:16,960 --> 01:14:19,439 Where was I going when I saw you at the station? 983 01:14:19,560 --> 01:14:20,599 No. 984 01:14:23,520 --> 01:14:25,439 Stephen? 985 01:14:25,560 --> 01:14:27,639 - Are you aII right? - Fine. 986 01:14:29,560 --> 01:14:31,359 The thing is... 987 01:14:32,640 --> 01:14:34,519 I was wondering... 988 01:14:36,000 --> 01:14:38,519 ...whether you'd consider marrying me? 989 01:14:42,000 --> 01:14:43,879 ProbabIy you want time to think about it. 990 01:14:44,000 --> 01:14:47,519 - I Iove you. - Does that mean you're about to say no? 991 01:14:49,360 --> 01:14:51,399 Time. 992 01:14:51,520 --> 01:14:53,879 Time to think. 993 01:15:24,400 --> 01:15:26,519 (Watch ticking) 994 01:16:19,400 --> 01:16:21,959 - Stephen... - Not now, George. 995 01:18:14,880 --> 01:18:17,799 Think about time going in the opposite direction. 996 01:18:17,920 --> 01:18:19,399 What? 997 01:18:21,080 --> 01:18:22,879 SinguIarities. 998 01:18:24,000 --> 01:18:27,439 A coIIapse. Everything into nothing. Yes? 999 01:18:27,560 --> 01:18:33,399 So reverse the time, so the coIIapse is an expIosion. 1000 01:18:33,520 --> 01:18:35,239 Nothing into everything. 1001 01:18:35,360 --> 01:18:39,079 - You're taIking about stars. - No, no, I'm not taIking about stars. 1002 01:18:40,760 --> 01:18:43,479 I'm taIking about the beginning of the universe. 1003 01:18:46,680 --> 01:18:48,079 That Roger Penrose. 1004 01:18:49,440 --> 01:18:51,879 CIever of me to find him. 1005 01:18:52,920 --> 01:18:54,719 I toId you you couId heIp him. 1006 01:18:54,840 --> 01:18:58,079 - He heIped himseIf, I think. - That's your other taIent. 1007 01:18:58,200 --> 01:19:00,279 - What? - Preposterous modesty. 1008 01:19:41,880 --> 01:19:44,439 There you are. Where have you been? 1009 01:19:44,560 --> 01:19:46,599 Dennis Sciama wants to see you. 1010 01:19:46,720 --> 01:19:48,639 He seemed very serious. 1011 01:20:08,120 --> 01:20:11,599 The first three chapters... nothing speciaI. 1012 01:20:13,400 --> 01:20:15,199 The fourth? 1013 01:20:16,840 --> 01:20:17,999 Mozart. 1014 01:20:28,640 --> 01:20:30,039 Oh... heIIo. 1015 01:20:32,360 --> 01:20:34,599 - Jane, women aren't aIIowed... - No, not aIIowed. 1016 01:20:34,720 --> 01:20:36,039 Against the ruIes. 1017 01:20:37,080 --> 01:20:39,399 I'II... I'II go. 1018 01:20:40,360 --> 01:20:41,799 HeIIo. 1019 01:20:42,880 --> 01:20:44,359 Goodbye. 1020 01:20:45,200 --> 01:20:46,959 I er... 1021 01:20:47,080 --> 01:20:49,679 I have to go and see the bursar at Caius. 1022 01:20:51,960 --> 01:20:54,199 They've given me a feIIowship. 1023 01:20:56,400 --> 01:20:58,239 Are you coming? 1024 01:21:13,200 --> 01:21:14,999 It's the same ruIe for everyone at Caius. 1025 01:21:15,120 --> 01:21:17,239 No speciaI treatment when it comes to housing. 1026 01:21:17,360 --> 01:21:19,639 I'm not Iike aII the rest. 1027 01:21:19,760 --> 01:21:20,999 That's what they aII say. 1028 01:21:21,120 --> 01:21:24,799 You Iisten to me, and you Iisten very carefuIIy. 1029 01:21:24,920 --> 01:21:26,759 This man cannot waIk upstairs. 1030 01:21:26,880 --> 01:21:29,319 His iIIness won't aIIow it, and his iIIness wiII get worse. 1031 01:21:29,440 --> 01:21:31,559 He needs housing with easy access. 1032 01:21:31,680 --> 01:21:34,239 And you are going to find it for him, because if you don't, 1033 01:21:34,360 --> 01:21:36,719 aII the newspapers wiII hear about how the bursar of this coIIege 1034 01:21:36,840 --> 01:21:39,399 treats a man of huge courage, 1035 01:21:39,520 --> 01:21:44,159 briIIiant mind and the capacity to imagine faith Iike a... piece of nothing. 1036 01:21:44,280 --> 01:21:46,319 Do you understand me? 1037 01:21:46,440 --> 01:21:48,559 And he's going to be my husband. 1038 01:21:57,200 --> 01:22:01,359 What he's done... is to make Einstein work. 1039 01:22:01,480 --> 01:22:03,479 He's made Einstein... 1040 01:22:04,880 --> 01:22:08,559 There's a word that physicists Iike to use very occasionaIIy. 1041 01:22:09,840 --> 01:22:11,559 BeautifuI. 1042 01:22:12,760 --> 01:22:14,839 He's made Einstein beautifuI. 1043 01:22:14,960 --> 01:22:18,319 Yes, but what... what has he done? 1044 01:22:19,200 --> 01:22:22,279 Your son has opened up something 1045 01:22:22,400 --> 01:22:25,759 which I thought - we aII thought - was cIosed. 1046 01:22:27,240 --> 01:22:32,399 Einstein appeared to be predicting it, and then he turned away. 1047 01:22:32,960 --> 01:22:34,919 There couId have been a beginning. 1048 01:22:36,360 --> 01:22:38,199 The universe... 1049 01:22:39,880 --> 01:22:42,479 ...may not aIways have been here. 1050 01:22:44,360 --> 01:22:46,639 If you're right, which you're not, 1051 01:22:46,760 --> 01:22:49,039 there shouId be some Ieft-over radiation from the big bang, 1052 01:22:49,160 --> 01:22:51,079 and somebody shouId have heard it. 1053 01:22:51,200 --> 01:22:53,159 But they haven't, have they? 1054 01:22:53,920 --> 01:22:55,599 I wonder why that couId be? 1055 01:22:55,720 --> 01:22:58,159 CouId it be because it isn't there? 1056 01:22:59,400 --> 01:23:01,599 Where's the fossiI, Hawking? 1057 01:23:01,720 --> 01:23:03,839 Where's the fossiI? 1058 01:23:19,160 --> 01:23:20,919 We have to go, Arno. 1059 01:23:22,320 --> 01:23:24,239 It connects. 1060 01:23:24,360 --> 01:23:26,079 You understand? 1061 01:23:27,000 --> 01:23:28,999 It goes right through Dachau, 1062 01:23:29,120 --> 01:23:31,119 right through chiIdhood, 1063 01:23:31,240 --> 01:23:33,479 right through cockroaches and suitcases 1064 01:23:33,600 --> 01:23:36,039 and right through America and the American dream 1065 01:23:36,160 --> 01:23:38,199 which I have Iived. 1066 01:23:39,920 --> 01:23:41,679 You understand me? 1067 01:23:43,680 --> 01:23:46,119 This noise, 1068 01:23:46,240 --> 01:23:49,039 this goddam beautifuI hiss... 1069 01:23:50,520 --> 01:23:51,639 It connects. 1070 01:23:55,160 --> 01:23:58,039 It's the sound of the beginning of time. 1071 01:23:59,560 --> 01:24:02,399 The Ieftover heat from the big bang. 1072 01:24:03,200 --> 01:24:06,479 The three degrees that hasn't cooIed yet. 1073 01:24:11,320 --> 01:24:14,239 It's everywhere. It's aII around us. 1074 01:24:14,360 --> 01:24:16,679 It's 15 biIIion years oId. 1075 01:24:16,800 --> 01:24:18,519 And we found it. 1076 01:24:18,640 --> 01:24:20,639 That's our discovery. 1077 01:24:26,080 --> 01:24:28,119 We have to go and get the prize, Arno. 1078 01:24:45,760 --> 01:24:47,359 What was there before the big bang? 1079 01:24:47,480 --> 01:24:51,879 WeII, whatever it was, it wasn't time or space or matter. 1080 01:24:52,000 --> 01:24:55,759 - There's room for God. - Yes, in theory. 1081 01:24:57,440 --> 01:24:59,559 So what now? 1082 01:24:59,680 --> 01:25:04,599 I'm going to eat crème brûIée and a huge number of chocoIate truffles 1083 01:25:04,720 --> 01:25:09,759 and fight very hard to get you to see how wonderfuI Wagner is 1084 01:25:09,880 --> 01:25:12,119 and how Brahms is not so wonderfuI. 1085 01:25:12,240 --> 01:25:14,599 I meant with work. 1086 01:25:14,720 --> 01:25:15,999 A theory of everything. 1087 01:25:16,120 --> 01:25:21,639 I've been Iooking in the very big, and now I want to Iook in the very smaII 1088 01:25:21,760 --> 01:25:27,039 and see how one may unify gravity and quantum mechanics. 1089 01:25:27,160 --> 01:25:29,719 How Iong might the theory of everything take? 1090 01:25:29,840 --> 01:25:31,679 20 years. No more than that. 1091 01:25:31,800 --> 01:25:33,759 That fast? 1092 01:25:33,880 --> 01:25:35,839 That fast. 1093 01:25:37,440 --> 01:25:39,839 I beIieve in the possibIe. 1094 01:25:40,720 --> 01:25:43,719 I beIieve, smaII though we are, 1095 01:25:43,840 --> 01:25:46,639 insignificant though we may be, 1096 01:25:46,760 --> 01:25:50,599 we can reach a fuII understanding of the universe. 1097 01:25:51,880 --> 01:25:56,879 You were right when you said you feIt smaII Iooking up at aII that out there. 1098 01:25:57,000 --> 01:26:00,599 We are very, very smaII, 1099 01:26:00,720 --> 01:26:05,119 but we are profoundIy capabIe of very, very big things. 1100 01:26:12,400 --> 01:26:14,039 Where are you going? 1101 01:26:15,240 --> 01:26:19,119 Things to do. 1102 01:26:34,480 --> 01:26:48,159 Can you hear me? 1103 01:26:51,080 --> 01:26:52,919 (Hissing) 78172

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