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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:08:19,667 --> 00:08:22,134 Douglas: This is an astonishingly chance relationship. 2 00:08:22,136 --> 00:08:25,204 Between western climbers and the sherpas. 3 00:08:25,206 --> 00:08:28,341 When climbing began, the sherpas had no conception 4 00:08:28,343 --> 00:08:30,076 of what mountaineering might be, 5 00:08:30,078 --> 00:08:33,179 and yet, suddenly they were on this journey 6 00:08:33,181 --> 00:08:36,082 from being people who just genetically were really good 7 00:08:36,084 --> 00:08:38,317 at altitude to becoming, 8 00:08:38,319 --> 00:08:41,754 you know, international mountain guides 100 years later. 9 00:08:44,192 --> 00:08:47,560 Man: 1953... coronation year. 10 00:08:47,562 --> 00:08:48,995 The world was turned by the news 11 00:08:48,997 --> 00:08:50,930 that Everest had at last been conquered 12 00:08:50,932 --> 00:08:53,966 by a British expedition led by colonel John hunt. 13 00:08:53,968 --> 00:08:55,768 Accompanied by the famous sherpa tenzing, 14 00:08:55,770 --> 00:08:57,470 Edmund Hillary climbed the summit 15 00:08:57,472 --> 00:08:59,939 of the world's highest mountain. 16 00:08:59,941 --> 00:09:02,808 Douglas: When tenzing norgay reached the summit of Everest, 17 00:09:02,810 --> 00:09:05,077 that is such an amazing moment. 18 00:09:05,079 --> 00:09:06,679 It's one of the most beautiful moments 19 00:09:06,681 --> 00:09:08,948 in climbing history. 20 00:09:08,950 --> 00:09:11,117 That's the moment when the word "sherpa" 21 00:09:11,119 --> 00:09:16,956 has the meaning of brand in the way that we understand it. 22 00:09:16,958 --> 00:09:19,759 The world was captivated by tenzing. 23 00:09:19,761 --> 00:09:23,629 And he fixed in our minds the popular image of a sherpa, 24 00:09:23,631 --> 00:09:29,502 as this smiling, friendly, almost heroic figure. 25 00:09:29,504 --> 00:09:31,270 Jamling: A lot of the western world. 26 00:09:31,272 --> 00:09:33,439 Do not know what a sherpa is. 27 00:09:33,441 --> 00:09:36,709 So, a sherpa, you know... You climb mountains, you know? 28 00:09:36,711 --> 00:09:38,377 And that's the first instinct, 29 00:09:38,379 --> 00:09:39,845 but they have no idea that we are 30 00:09:39,847 --> 00:09:43,149 actually an ethnic group of people. 31 00:09:51,092 --> 00:09:56,228 We believe in reincarnation... Life after death. 32 00:09:56,230 --> 00:09:59,599 And you continue to be reborn and reborn and reborn 33 00:09:59,601 --> 00:10:03,402 until the day you reach nirvana. 34 00:10:09,210 --> 00:10:15,014 So, your next life is determined by your deeds of this life. 35 00:10:19,220 --> 00:10:25,191 We sherpa people have a great respect for the mountain. 36 00:10:40,141 --> 00:10:41,574 Norgay: Over here, we climb mountains, 37 00:10:41,576 --> 00:10:43,676 but it's a holy place. 38 00:10:43,678 --> 00:10:45,611 There's a huge difference in, you know, 39 00:10:45,613 --> 00:10:48,648 the attitude, the feeling. 40 00:10:50,518 --> 00:10:54,587 Western people approach it as a physical challenge... 41 00:10:54,589 --> 00:10:57,957 Push your limit to see how close you can get to death. 42 00:10:57,959 --> 00:10:59,692 But there's 1,000-year-old stories 43 00:10:59,694 --> 00:11:03,162 we have about the mountain's history, 44 00:11:03,164 --> 00:11:05,831 which these people have no idea about. 45 00:11:05,833 --> 00:11:09,335 And I think some people adapt and learn and respect it. 46 00:11:09,337 --> 00:11:11,504 Some people don't. 47 00:11:15,843 --> 00:11:18,577 Douglas: If phurba is one of the most successful climbing sherpas. 48 00:11:18,579 --> 00:11:20,546 Of his generation, 49 00:11:20,548 --> 00:11:22,915 then his counterpart amongst expedition leaders 50 00:11:22,917 --> 00:11:25,818 is his boss, Russell Brice. 51 00:11:25,820 --> 00:11:28,254 Brice: I've been running commercial expeditions here. 52 00:11:28,256 --> 00:11:30,256 Since 1994. 53 00:11:30,258 --> 00:11:31,824 I think I'm the person that's been 54 00:11:31,826 --> 00:11:35,528 on more Everest expeditions than anyone else in the world. 55 00:11:41,769 --> 00:11:43,002 - It's all oxygen. - All oxygen. 56 00:11:43,004 --> 00:11:46,472 And I brought those two broken ones in kathmandu. 57 00:11:46,474 --> 00:11:48,974 How can I explain phurba tashi? 58 00:11:48,976 --> 00:11:51,844 This year, he might climb Everest 22 times... 59 00:11:51,846 --> 00:11:54,447 More than anyone else in the world... 60 00:11:54,449 --> 00:11:56,082 And such a special person. 61 00:11:56,084 --> 00:11:59,652 He's incredibly strong on the mountain. 62 00:12:00,988 --> 00:12:04,323 Good idea. Water here. 63 00:12:20,508 --> 00:12:22,141 Hi, guys. 64 00:12:33,321 --> 00:12:35,688 Lots of new faces. 65 00:12:59,113 --> 00:13:00,679 Douglas: The service-industry aspect. 66 00:13:00,681 --> 00:13:04,150 Of climbing Everest has developed and developed. 67 00:13:08,523 --> 00:13:12,525 So what mountaineers in 1975 maybe would have put up with, 68 00:13:12,527 --> 00:13:15,795 the people who are coming now want something a bit more. 69 00:13:15,797 --> 00:13:18,464 You know, they want a very comfortable base camp. 70 00:13:18,466 --> 00:13:21,066 Everything's good. 71 00:13:21,068 --> 00:13:23,402 So much work for these guys 72 00:13:23,404 --> 00:13:27,807 to make all these platforms and put tents up. 73 00:13:33,915 --> 00:13:37,082 The activity here has changed utterly. 74 00:13:37,084 --> 00:13:39,118 It has become an industry, 75 00:13:39,120 --> 00:13:44,089 and that industry is people, largely, by sherpas. 76 00:13:48,529 --> 00:13:51,697 And they may not still fully understand 77 00:13:51,699 --> 00:13:54,867 what it is that compels us to climb mountains, 78 00:13:54,869 --> 00:13:57,903 but they are fantastically good at delivering the experience. 79 00:14:16,023 --> 00:14:17,623 Woodward: So far, so good, actually. 80 00:14:17,625 --> 00:14:20,860 Everybody's looking and sounding quite healthy. 81 00:14:20,862 --> 00:14:24,663 A couple mild headaches, but that's to be expected. 82 00:14:24,665 --> 00:14:26,298 Okay, folks. 83 00:14:26,300 --> 00:14:28,234 Let's roll on out of town. 84 00:14:41,916 --> 00:14:43,449 Steven: In the old days, 85 00:14:43,451 --> 00:14:46,252 people did everything on the mountain together. 86 00:14:46,254 --> 00:14:48,787 And today, the mountain has changed in that 87 00:14:48,789 --> 00:14:51,957 the operators take care of everything. 88 00:14:51,959 --> 00:14:53,025 Brice: In the old days, 89 00:14:53,027 --> 00:14:55,261 if you got one person on the summit, 90 00:14:55,263 --> 00:14:56,996 that was success. 91 00:14:56,998 --> 00:14:59,465 Now, we need to get everyone on the summit. 92 00:14:59,467 --> 00:15:01,734 So if you want to get everyone on the summit, 93 00:15:01,736 --> 00:15:04,937 you need much more creature comfort. 94 00:15:04,939 --> 00:15:06,605 Certainly the type of person 95 00:15:06,607 --> 00:15:11,010 that comes on an expedition has changed considerably. 96 00:15:11,012 --> 00:15:15,547 We bring people here to help them fulfill their dreams. 97 00:15:17,051 --> 00:15:19,718 Hey! Yeah! 98 00:15:22,690 --> 00:15:24,523 Phurba, how's it going? Good to see you. 99 00:15:24,525 --> 00:15:27,259 You boys have done hard work. 100 00:15:27,261 --> 00:15:29,361 Oh! 101 00:15:29,363 --> 00:15:32,731 Hey, phurba. Peter. How are you? 102 00:15:48,683 --> 00:15:53,585 It's been a goal as a climber. 103 00:15:53,587 --> 00:15:56,655 I know to a lot of climbers, it might be trivial, 104 00:15:56,657 --> 00:15:59,658 but to me, being on top of Everest 105 00:15:59,660 --> 00:16:01,894 is just an achievement of a dream. 106 00:16:01,896 --> 00:16:03,595 Johnson: Part of the reason why you want to come and climb... 107 00:16:03,597 --> 00:16:05,331 You want to experience those things, 108 00:16:05,333 --> 00:16:07,599 see if you can do it, see if you can physically do it. 109 00:16:07,601 --> 00:16:09,168 It's a massive undertaking. 110 00:16:09,170 --> 00:16:11,670 The training is phenomenal. 111 00:16:11,672 --> 00:16:14,139 And, you know, it's not something 112 00:16:14,141 --> 00:16:15,541 you put together in a couple weeks. 113 00:16:15,543 --> 00:16:19,044 It's months of planning and months of getting organized. 114 00:16:19,046 --> 00:16:20,946 Everest has always been attractive 115 00:16:20,948 --> 00:16:22,281 for several reasons for me. 116 00:16:22,283 --> 00:16:23,983 I love the Buddhist side to it. 117 00:16:23,985 --> 00:16:28,087 I love the whole... I love the nepalese people. 118 00:16:28,089 --> 00:16:31,290 So, for me, it's been a more enjoyable mountain than most 119 00:16:31,292 --> 00:16:34,059 because I think that it's so cool, 120 00:16:34,061 --> 00:16:37,296 that you get to share it with these beautiful people. 121 00:16:39,600 --> 00:16:40,666 Man: Have you ever seen a man so particular? 122 00:16:40,668 --> 00:16:42,368 MAN Are you watching this right now? 123 00:16:42,370 --> 00:16:44,069 MAN 124 00:16:44,071 --> 00:16:47,606 Douglas: And so, for just eight hectic weeks each year, 125 00:16:47,608 --> 00:16:51,176 Everest base camp becomes this thriving village. 126 00:16:53,080 --> 00:16:55,247 And in recent years, overcrowding on Everest 127 00:16:55,249 --> 00:16:58,884 has been the source of a lot of controversy. 128 00:16:58,886 --> 00:17:01,053 Williams: It might just be the last place on earth. 129 00:17:01,055 --> 00:17:02,821 You'd expect to find a traffic jam... 130 00:17:02,823 --> 00:17:04,623 The top of the world... Mount Everest. 131 00:17:04,625 --> 00:17:06,825 MAN show how lineups 132 00:17:06,827 --> 00:17:08,727 cause long and unnecessary delays. 133 00:17:08,729 --> 00:17:11,530 MAN have been to the top of Everest. 134 00:17:11,532 --> 00:17:13,699 600 people do it in a good year. 135 00:17:13,701 --> 00:17:17,770 It has become a very necessary part of the nepalese economy. 136 00:17:17,772 --> 00:17:21,006 MAN charge up to $100,000 137 00:17:21,008 --> 00:17:22,441 to clients wanting to make the ascent. 138 00:17:22,443 --> 00:17:25,377 MAN become a bucket list ambition 139 00:17:25,379 --> 00:17:27,212 and a multi-million-dollar industry. 140 00:17:27,214 --> 00:17:28,814 Douglas: This is a, you know, big employer... 141 00:17:28,816 --> 00:17:30,516 Lots and lots of people. 142 00:17:30,518 --> 00:17:32,351 There are more sherpas working on the mountain now 143 00:17:32,353 --> 00:17:34,520 than there ever have been in history. 144 00:17:34,522 --> 00:17:37,022 But they only get a small fraction of the pie. 145 00:17:37,024 --> 00:17:39,558 MAN earn up to $5,000 146 00:17:39,560 --> 00:17:41,193 for a two-month expedition, 147 00:17:41,195 --> 00:17:43,295 10 times the average annual pay 148 00:17:43,297 --> 00:17:47,099 in their isolated homeland. 149 00:17:47,101 --> 00:17:48,434 Douglas: The whole Everest circus. 150 00:17:48,436 --> 00:17:50,302 Just seems to get bigger and bigger, 151 00:17:50,304 --> 00:17:52,071 and this season is no exception. 152 00:17:52,073 --> 00:17:55,074 Russell Brice's team is just one of 38 expeditions 153 00:17:55,076 --> 00:17:57,309 on the mountain this year. 154 00:17:57,311 --> 00:17:59,311 All these people have to be looked after, 155 00:17:59,313 --> 00:18:03,215 and all their equipment has to be moved up the mountain. 156 00:18:03,217 --> 00:18:05,050 You have Google maps 157 00:18:05,052 --> 00:18:07,086 photographing the route to the summit. 158 00:18:07,088 --> 00:18:08,921 There's a Hollywood feature film. 159 00:18:08,923 --> 00:18:10,989 There's even a guy in a wingsuit 160 00:18:10,991 --> 00:18:13,425 trying to jump off the top and fly all the way down. 161 00:18:13,427 --> 00:18:15,027 Flisler: So, we're here to put on one. 162 00:18:15,029 --> 00:18:16,962 Of the most ambitious television projects 163 00:18:16,964 --> 00:18:19,064 in the history of the media world. 164 00:18:19,066 --> 00:18:20,899 So he'll be flying down here, 165 00:18:20,901 --> 00:18:22,901 and we're gonna be broadcasting it all live. 166 00:18:22,903 --> 00:18:24,303 There's a reason that superman movies 167 00:18:24,305 --> 00:18:26,238 or Batman movies and spider-man... 168 00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:28,507 All these superheroes are so popular. 169 00:18:28,509 --> 00:18:30,209 I can do what those guys can do. 170 00:18:30,211 --> 00:18:31,343 Wardle: It's kind of daft, 171 00:18:31,345 --> 00:18:34,079 but you know, in the world of adventure, 172 00:18:34,081 --> 00:18:36,715 people are always thinking of new crazy things to do. 173 00:18:36,717 --> 00:18:38,350 Douglas: It's part of the deal now... 174 00:18:38,352 --> 00:18:40,953 Is that they're all kinds of strange notions 175 00:18:40,955 --> 00:18:45,224 of what can be done on Everest simply to attract attention. 176 00:18:45,226 --> 00:18:47,659 One, two, three. 177 00:19:24,031 --> 00:19:26,798 The way these commercial expeditions climb Everest 178 00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:30,736 is to establish a series of higher and higher camps, 179 00:19:30,738 --> 00:19:32,938 stocking them over a period of weeks 180 00:19:32,940 --> 00:19:35,073 with everything required to give the clients 181 00:19:35,075 --> 00:19:38,944 the best chance of reaching the summit. 182 00:19:48,756 --> 00:19:50,489 The government doesn't permit equipment 183 00:19:50,491 --> 00:19:52,257 to be flown up the mountain, 184 00:19:52,259 --> 00:19:54,593 so everything that goes into building these camps 185 00:19:54,595 --> 00:19:57,829 has to be carried. 186 00:20:04,138 --> 00:20:07,839 Douglas: And it's the sherpas that do that work, 187 00:20:07,841 --> 00:20:11,310 including going through what is its most dangerous section. 188 00:20:28,028 --> 00:20:30,062 If you want to climb Everest from the south, 189 00:20:30,064 --> 00:20:33,232 you have to go through the khumbu icefall. 190 00:20:34,535 --> 00:20:38,136 It's the route up Everest most commercial operators prefer, 191 00:20:38,138 --> 00:20:39,938 partly because of political uncertainty 192 00:20:39,940 --> 00:20:42,307 on the northern side of the mountain in Tibet, 193 00:20:42,309 --> 00:20:45,744 which they'd rather avoid. 194 00:20:45,746 --> 00:20:48,380 Mckinley: The khumbu icefall is like a waterfall of ice. 195 00:20:48,382 --> 00:20:50,515 Coming out of the western cwm. 196 00:20:50,517 --> 00:20:52,251 There is nowhere else in the world 197 00:20:52,253 --> 00:20:56,622 that a mountaineer would go through an icefall like this. 198 00:20:56,624 --> 00:21:00,325 But because it's the only access on the south side to Everest, 199 00:21:00,327 --> 00:21:05,897 then people do walk through this jumble of ice. 200 00:21:05,899 --> 00:21:09,101 The problem with the icefall is that it's uncontrollable. 201 00:21:09,103 --> 00:21:11,203 All the other aspects of the mountain that are dangerous 202 00:21:11,205 --> 00:21:12,971 have, you know, in terms of safety, 203 00:21:12,973 --> 00:21:14,740 have been improved over the years. 204 00:21:14,742 --> 00:21:18,877 But the icefall remains, you know, perilous. 205 00:22:09,496 --> 00:22:14,266 Douglas: There are threats from every direction. 206 00:22:37,291 --> 00:22:39,791 Not only that... There are big blocks of ice 207 00:22:39,793 --> 00:22:44,096 falling down without warning from above. 208 00:22:55,175 --> 00:22:59,745 You're asking men to go to work in a very dangerous environment. 209 00:23:02,750 --> 00:23:05,450 And it's becoming more so as the seracs, 210 00:23:05,452 --> 00:23:08,720 these giant blocks of glacial ice, 211 00:23:08,722 --> 00:23:12,691 are affected by the forces of climate change. 212 00:23:12,693 --> 00:23:14,493 They're dropping off more readily, 213 00:23:14,495 --> 00:23:17,329 and people are going to get caught more often. 214 00:23:17,331 --> 00:23:20,565 MAN 215 00:23:20,567 --> 00:23:23,869 Douglas: So you know that this is a perilous moment... 216 00:23:23,871 --> 00:23:26,271 Going through the icefall. 217 00:23:26,273 --> 00:23:29,107 MAN 218 00:23:34,815 --> 00:23:36,648 Douglas: And it's not just once or twice. 219 00:23:36,650 --> 00:23:38,650 The sherpas have to go through it. 220 00:23:38,652 --> 00:23:41,186 It's up to 30 trips per season, 221 00:23:41,188 --> 00:23:46,391 as compared to about two or three for most foreigners. 222 00:24:10,818 --> 00:24:12,651 Brice: I'm totally scared every time 223 00:24:12,653 --> 00:24:14,686 I send the sherpas up in the mountain. 224 00:24:14,688 --> 00:24:16,121 It's like sending them off to war. 225 00:24:16,123 --> 00:24:18,123 I don't know who's gonna come home. 226 00:24:18,125 --> 00:24:19,624 If there's an accident in the icefall, 227 00:24:19,626 --> 00:24:21,860 are we gonna lose one? Are we gonna lose two? 228 00:24:21,862 --> 00:24:23,562 Are we gonna lose six people? 229 00:24:23,564 --> 00:24:27,632 Because the potential is there. 230 00:24:29,269 --> 00:24:30,836 Douglas: And the question is... 231 00:24:30,838 --> 00:24:33,839 What is the moral justification for that? 232 00:24:33,841 --> 00:24:37,042 You know, what reward is there for you to play 233 00:24:37,044 --> 00:24:40,378 what is essentially a game of Russian roulette? 234 00:24:41,982 --> 00:24:47,552 In 2012, I determined the mountain to be dangerous. 235 00:24:50,190 --> 00:24:51,690 Every night, I'd listen to the sherpas 236 00:24:51,692 --> 00:24:55,026 on the radio going through the icefall. 237 00:24:55,028 --> 00:24:56,628 And all the time, they were running away 238 00:24:56,630 --> 00:24:59,664 from small avalanches and blocks of ice 239 00:24:59,666 --> 00:25:02,100 falling down and things like that. 240 00:25:04,037 --> 00:25:08,240 So I made a decision to cancel my expedition. 241 00:25:08,242 --> 00:25:10,008 That's an incredibly hard thing to do... 242 00:25:10,010 --> 00:25:14,079 To cancel a commercial expedition. 243 00:25:15,916 --> 00:25:18,450 Douglas: There were people around who said, 244 00:25:18,452 --> 00:25:20,785 "well, Russell's, you know, being a bit of a chump here" 245 00:25:20,787 --> 00:25:22,354 because his clients will be pissed off 246 00:25:22,356 --> 00:25:23,588 because they went home 247 00:25:23,590 --> 00:25:25,924 "and other people got to the top." 248 00:25:25,926 --> 00:25:27,125 I think Russell Brice 249 00:25:27,127 --> 00:25:30,428 was really putting into perspective the risks 250 00:25:30,430 --> 00:25:34,599 that people were making the sherpas take. 251 00:25:34,601 --> 00:25:37,002 Now Russell has four of those clients 252 00:25:37,004 --> 00:25:38,436 returning this year. 253 00:25:38,438 --> 00:25:42,274 So that adds a lot of pressure for a successful expedition. 254 00:26:12,072 --> 00:26:14,139 Douglas: Tenzing norgay was a man. 255 00:26:14,141 --> 00:26:19,177 Who was determined to change his stars. 256 00:26:19,179 --> 00:26:23,648 And when he reached the summit of Everest, he did that. 257 00:26:23,650 --> 00:26:25,417 The British couldn't have done it 258 00:26:25,419 --> 00:26:27,352 with someone like tenzing. 259 00:26:27,354 --> 00:26:29,788 He'd been to the mountain seven times by that point, 260 00:26:29,790 --> 00:26:31,690 and they benefited from all those years 261 00:26:31,692 --> 00:26:34,392 of his experience, but he wasn't acknowledged. 262 00:26:34,394 --> 00:26:39,497 He wasn't given due regard for what he had achieved. 263 00:26:39,499 --> 00:26:41,566 Coming down from that, almost immediately, 264 00:26:41,568 --> 00:26:44,603 he finds himself in a political firestorm. 265 00:26:44,605 --> 00:26:46,805 Reporter: Who got to the top first? 266 00:26:46,807 --> 00:26:50,075 Hunt: To anybody who climbs mountains, to any mountaineer, 267 00:26:50,077 --> 00:26:52,010 and I feel to thousands of others. 268 00:26:52,012 --> 00:26:54,980 The matter couldn't matter less. 269 00:26:54,982 --> 00:26:57,248 Reporter norgay was asked how he felt, 270 00:26:57,250 --> 00:26:59,651 his chilly answers had to be interpreted. 271 00:27:04,458 --> 00:27:05,824 Hunt: He's very happy. 272 00:27:10,931 --> 00:27:13,765 Reporter and the George medal, too. 273 00:27:13,767 --> 00:27:16,134 Douglas: So John hunt became sir John hunt, 274 00:27:16,136 --> 00:27:18,870 Hillary became sir ed Hillary, 275 00:27:18,872 --> 00:27:21,206 and tenzing got the George medal. 276 00:27:21,208 --> 00:27:24,909 Now, there is a superior award to that... the George cross. 277 00:27:24,911 --> 00:27:27,579 So it's kind of like a second-level award. 278 00:27:27,581 --> 00:27:30,048 It was just not right. 279 00:27:30,050 --> 00:27:32,250 So in the eyes of sherpas, 280 00:27:32,252 --> 00:27:33,785 in the eyes of people in India, 281 00:27:33,787 --> 00:27:37,489 in the eyes of most asians, they felt somewhat slighted 282 00:27:37,491 --> 00:27:39,758 that he would not get the same kind of recognition 283 00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:42,994 that his partners got. 284 00:27:42,996 --> 00:27:44,195 Jamling: My father said, 285 00:27:44,197 --> 00:27:46,364 "i wish I had never climbed this mountain." 286 00:28:00,681 --> 00:28:03,114 Douglas: He was immensely proud of what he had achieved, 287 00:28:03,116 --> 00:28:06,685 but I think he felt thwarted in a way. 288 00:28:06,687 --> 00:28:09,521 I think he felt that he hadn't realized himself 289 00:28:09,523 --> 00:28:11,790 in the way that he would have liked. 290 00:28:11,792 --> 00:28:13,692 I think partly it's because, you know, 291 00:28:13,694 --> 00:28:17,629 he lacked a formal education. 292 00:28:22,836 --> 00:28:24,202 Steven: The 60-year-old reputation. 293 00:28:24,204 --> 00:28:27,338 Of what it is to be a sherpa is changing. 294 00:28:27,340 --> 00:28:28,807 Joshi: Now, you go to base camp. 295 00:28:28,809 --> 00:28:32,277 And more than 80% of sherpas finish their high school. 296 00:28:32,279 --> 00:28:33,545 And if you go 20 years ago, 297 00:28:33,547 --> 00:28:35,113 none of them have been to high school. 298 00:28:35,115 --> 00:28:38,249 Because of their education, they know a lot more 299 00:28:38,251 --> 00:28:41,920 than western clients think they do. 300 00:28:41,922 --> 00:28:44,155 Steven: Now with the Facebook generation, 301 00:28:44,157 --> 00:28:47,258 sherpas see how much credit westerners 302 00:28:47,260 --> 00:28:49,494 are getting for a climb on Everest, 303 00:28:49,496 --> 00:28:52,697 and they know that they've done most of the grunt work. 304 00:28:52,699 --> 00:28:53,898 Without the sherpa, 305 00:28:53,900 --> 00:28:55,700 the westerner would never have gotten there. 306 00:28:55,702 --> 00:28:57,001 And they are dissatisfied with that. 307 00:28:57,003 --> 00:29:00,138 And they want equal credit for what they have done. 308 00:29:01,975 --> 00:29:06,311 What we've seen in recent years is a... 309 00:29:06,313 --> 00:29:10,782 A tendency of aggression 310 00:29:10,784 --> 00:29:12,217 from younger sherpas. 311 00:29:12,219 --> 00:29:16,087 So, last year, there was fighting on Everest, 312 00:29:16,089 --> 00:29:19,524 and I think we were all disappointed, 313 00:29:19,526 --> 00:29:21,726 so sad about that. 314 00:29:24,231 --> 00:29:26,297 MAN risk their lives every year 315 00:29:26,299 --> 00:29:27,732 trying to climb mount Everest. 316 00:29:27,734 --> 00:29:29,934 This morning, some of them say they nearly died in a brawl. 317 00:29:29,936 --> 00:29:32,237 Woman: Man versus the mountain to man versus man. 318 00:29:32,239 --> 00:29:33,805 MAN say they faced a human foe. 319 00:29:33,807 --> 00:29:35,340 MAN Three top European climbers 320 00:29:35,342 --> 00:29:36,674 had to flee for their lives. 321 00:29:36,676 --> 00:29:38,877 MAN scrap in history. 322 00:29:38,879 --> 00:29:40,578 MAN They just tried to kill us. 323 00:29:40,580 --> 00:29:42,113 MAN The sherpas tried to kill you? 324 00:29:42,115 --> 00:29:44,582 MAN near the summit, 325 00:29:44,584 --> 00:29:48,052 an altitude of roughly 22,000 feet. 326 00:29:48,054 --> 00:29:51,055 Douglas: You have a European calling a sherpa a... 327 00:29:51,057 --> 00:29:53,224 Which is, in Nepal, particularly, 328 00:29:53,226 --> 00:29:54,359 culturally insensitive. 329 00:29:56,163 --> 00:29:59,164 MAN I know what word you used. 330 00:29:59,166 --> 00:30:00,932 I don't like that word, either. 331 00:30:00,934 --> 00:30:03,835 MAN help westerners summit, 332 00:30:03,837 --> 00:30:06,237 turned against them. 333 00:30:06,239 --> 00:30:11,276 I'm sorry. I'm sorry for all what they said. 334 00:30:11,278 --> 00:30:15,580 All the words that came out from my mouth was wrong. 335 00:30:15,582 --> 00:30:18,316 I am sorry. 336 00:30:18,318 --> 00:30:20,952 Yes. 337 00:30:20,954 --> 00:30:22,554 Please. Please, no violence. 338 00:30:22,556 --> 00:30:24,823 - No. - He came to apologize. 339 00:30:24,825 --> 00:30:26,825 I'm sorry. 340 00:30:26,827 --> 00:30:28,293 Yes, yes. 341 00:30:28,295 --> 00:30:30,195 Please, no violence. Listen. 342 00:30:30,197 --> 00:30:31,896 He's very sorry. 343 00:30:31,898 --> 00:30:32,764 No! 344 00:30:34,768 --> 00:30:36,801 Inside, inside. 345 00:30:38,705 --> 00:30:40,171 Hey! 346 00:30:40,173 --> 00:30:42,574 MAN the fight was something personal 347 00:30:42,576 --> 00:30:44,876 or reflected a greater discontent. 348 00:30:44,878 --> 00:30:47,946 Please, no violence. Please! 349 00:31:10,503 --> 00:31:13,571 It's about sherpas no longer feeling 350 00:31:13,573 --> 00:31:18,176 that they have to be subservient or deferent to western climbers 351 00:31:18,178 --> 00:31:21,980 and not playing out that role of the faithful servant anymore. 352 00:31:21,982 --> 00:31:24,148 Not being the kind of nice, friendly, smiley person 353 00:31:24,150 --> 00:31:25,250 in the background. 354 00:31:25,252 --> 00:31:26,985 Just saying, "actually, you know what? 355 00:31:26,987 --> 00:31:28,953 We're as good as you." 356 00:31:28,955 --> 00:31:30,455 Brice: I'm a little afraid. 357 00:31:30,457 --> 00:31:32,757 Where it's going to lead in the future. 358 00:31:32,759 --> 00:31:33,825 It's too hard. 359 00:31:33,827 --> 00:31:35,560 The tension is too hard. 360 00:31:35,562 --> 00:31:37,862 The worry is too hard. 361 00:31:37,864 --> 00:31:40,565 And I'm getting too old for that. 362 00:31:55,215 --> 00:31:58,950 - Good morning. - Good morning, mount Everest. 363 00:31:58,952 --> 00:32:00,952 Hot towel. 364 00:32:03,490 --> 00:32:05,023 Tea? 365 00:32:05,025 --> 00:32:07,325 Ow. 366 00:32:07,327 --> 00:32:09,661 Roughin' it on mount Everest. 367 00:32:09,663 --> 00:32:11,863 Hot towels and tea in the morning. 368 00:32:15,035 --> 00:32:17,936 Ah. 369 00:32:25,312 --> 00:32:27,845 Can I have a tea with no sugar, please? 370 00:34:47,620 --> 00:34:50,354 Douglas: The reason Everest takes eight weeks to climb. 371 00:34:50,356 --> 00:34:56,027 Is that the body needs to slowly acclimatize to the altitude. 372 00:35:01,534 --> 00:35:04,135 Brice: We do our acclimatization on lobuche peak. 373 00:35:04,137 --> 00:35:05,803 To stay out of the icefall, 374 00:35:05,805 --> 00:35:10,942 to reduce the risk for our clients. 375 00:35:10,944 --> 00:35:12,677 Douglas: And so when, you know, Russell Brice. 376 00:35:12,679 --> 00:35:14,912 Starts getting his clients to camp on top of, you know, 377 00:35:14,914 --> 00:35:17,215 a nearby peak rather than going through the icefall 378 00:35:17,217 --> 00:35:20,818 to acclimatize, you know, that makes sense. 379 00:35:20,820 --> 00:35:23,654 The fewer trips anyone has to make through the icefall, 380 00:35:23,656 --> 00:35:24,789 the better. 381 00:35:26,326 --> 00:35:29,193 Meanwhile, the sherpas are still stocking the camps 382 00:35:29,195 --> 00:35:32,296 on Everest, making dozens of trips up and down, 383 00:35:32,298 --> 00:35:36,033 carrying all the oxygen, the tents, the food, so on. 384 00:35:36,035 --> 00:35:38,035 So that the mountain is ready to be climbed 385 00:35:38,037 --> 00:35:39,804 when the clients return. 386 00:35:43,943 --> 00:35:47,345 Brice: This year, my clients will go through the icefall twice, 387 00:35:47,347 --> 00:35:49,480 but I dare say most of the sherpas 388 00:35:49,482 --> 00:35:52,783 will go through maybe 20 to 30 times. 389 00:35:52,785 --> 00:35:56,287 And I'm not sure the clients actually ever see that. 390 00:35:56,289 --> 00:36:00,191 That was a nice day for a climb. 391 00:36:57,150 --> 00:37:00,918 Brice: I think a lot of people, even on our trips, 392 00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:02,987 don't really understand 393 00:37:02,989 --> 00:37:06,057 all this work is going on every night. 394 00:37:06,059 --> 00:37:10,494 Loads of equipment going up to support them on the mountain. 395 00:37:17,837 --> 00:37:20,838 But now we have to start the real job of why we're here, 396 00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:22,473 and that's going up through the mountain. 397 00:37:22,475 --> 00:37:24,809 Safety is very, very important. 398 00:37:24,811 --> 00:37:27,111 If you go through the icefall without crampons, 399 00:37:27,113 --> 00:37:29,614 if you go through the icefall without clipping on, 400 00:37:29,616 --> 00:37:30,748 I'm gonna sack you. 401 00:37:30,750 --> 00:37:33,651 You're gonna go home. 402 00:37:33,653 --> 00:37:36,587 Douglas: It must seem crazy going through the khumbu icefall. 403 00:37:36,589 --> 00:37:39,190 In the dark, but it's actually much safer 404 00:37:39,192 --> 00:37:42,059 because it's more stable in the cold of night. 405 00:37:42,061 --> 00:37:43,227 Once the sun hits, 406 00:37:43,229 --> 00:37:45,997 it becomes increasingly dangerous. 407 00:37:45,999 --> 00:37:47,031 Brice: You have to remember. 408 00:37:47,033 --> 00:37:49,333 That you have a big responsibility 409 00:37:49,335 --> 00:37:52,336 not only for your own safety but for your family. 410 00:37:54,941 --> 00:37:59,043 Even if it's a full moon, you must have your headlamp. 411 00:37:59,045 --> 00:38:01,245 The transceivers must be turned on here, 412 00:38:01,247 --> 00:38:03,314 and you must use the transceiver every day 413 00:38:03,316 --> 00:38:05,783 that you go through the icefall. 414 00:38:05,785 --> 00:38:08,019 We know if a serac falls on top of you 415 00:38:08,021 --> 00:38:12,690 you're not going to survive, but if you have a transceiver, 416 00:38:12,692 --> 00:38:17,094 it means to find you will take much less time. 417 00:38:17,096 --> 00:38:20,064 And so that puts the people doing the rescue 418 00:38:20,066 --> 00:38:21,799 at much less risk. 419 00:39:12,819 --> 00:39:14,752 Check, check. 420 00:39:16,889 --> 00:39:19,290 Check, check. 421 00:42:48,334 --> 00:42:52,202 There at least five out here that are out of the danger zone, 422 00:42:52,204 --> 00:42:54,805 and there's another four or five i can see 423 00:42:54,807 --> 00:42:57,608 that are still in the depths of the icefall. 424 00:43:08,554 --> 00:43:11,822 MAN 13 or 14 missing. 425 00:43:11,824 --> 00:43:13,257 Not sure what team they're from. 426 00:43:13,259 --> 00:43:15,826 Phil, are all your boys okay? 427 00:43:19,131 --> 00:43:21,999 Phil, I can't hear you, but are all your boys okay? 428 00:43:22,001 --> 00:43:23,767 Just say yes or no. 429 00:43:26,739 --> 00:43:28,405 Thumbs up. Okay. Thanks. 430 00:43:28,407 --> 00:43:29,707 MAN you can find. 431 00:43:29,709 --> 00:43:30,708 Russ, where's that... 432 00:43:30,710 --> 00:43:34,044 Brice: A.C. And a.A.I. 433 00:43:34,046 --> 00:43:39,149 Dawa sherpa, a.C. Sherpa, and a.A.I. Sherpa. 434 00:43:39,151 --> 00:43:40,250 No. 435 00:43:49,895 --> 00:43:51,729 Mckinley: I'm not aware of numbers, 436 00:43:51,731 --> 00:43:54,531 but it's significant amounts. 437 00:43:54,533 --> 00:43:57,067 It's in the teens. 438 00:44:04,810 --> 00:44:06,010 Keep that with you. 439 00:44:06,012 --> 00:44:07,645 Okay. 440 00:44:10,650 --> 00:44:13,350 Definitely bring the long line from kathmandu. 441 00:44:13,352 --> 00:44:15,886 Cheers. Bye. 442 00:44:21,894 --> 00:44:24,228 Put these steel shovels, get them all together. 443 00:44:26,666 --> 00:44:29,700 We want that sked. 444 00:44:29,702 --> 00:44:31,935 MAN If people are somewhat stable 445 00:44:31,937 --> 00:44:33,303 we're gonna want to be bringing them down 446 00:44:33,305 --> 00:44:34,905 from the scene if we can't fly them out. 447 00:44:36,242 --> 00:44:37,374 For the beginning of the season. 448 00:44:37,376 --> 00:44:39,410 - "A." - Yeah. 449 00:44:47,553 --> 00:44:49,887 How are you? Namaste, Dave. 450 00:44:49,889 --> 00:44:51,255 - That's it? - Yeah. 451 00:44:51,257 --> 00:44:54,692 Goes up, gets some oxygen, 452 00:44:54,694 --> 00:44:58,062 and you go second load. 453 00:44:58,064 --> 00:44:59,763 One of my guys is very serious. 454 00:44:59,765 --> 00:45:00,831 Mm-hmm. 455 00:45:00,833 --> 00:45:04,268 So I think we're to bring him down fast, 456 00:45:04,270 --> 00:45:05,836 as soon as possible. 457 00:45:05,838 --> 00:45:07,438 Because he's alive now. 458 00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:09,540 Yeah, yeah. We'll try. 459 00:45:09,542 --> 00:45:11,208 My doctor here waiting. 460 00:45:11,210 --> 00:45:12,276 - Yeah. - It's okay. 461 00:45:12,278 --> 00:45:14,411 But we need sked. We need all that. 462 00:45:14,413 --> 00:45:16,246 We need the oxygen up there first flight. 463 00:45:16,248 --> 00:45:17,347 Yeah. 464 00:45:17,349 --> 00:45:18,415 I think what we're trying to do 465 00:45:18,417 --> 00:45:19,416 is you and I in the first load. 466 00:45:19,418 --> 00:45:20,517 Yeah. 467 00:45:20,519 --> 00:45:22,586 I'll try and secure the helipad. 468 00:45:22,588 --> 00:45:23,921 - Yep. - Get it crackin'. 469 00:45:23,923 --> 00:45:24,988 You do flight stuff, I'll just do medical stuff. 470 00:45:24,990 --> 00:45:26,256 And you go down. Exactly. 471 00:45:29,995 --> 00:45:31,061 - Guys. - Yes, yes. 472 00:45:31,063 --> 00:45:32,229 If you're gonna make me in charge... 473 00:45:32,231 --> 00:45:33,564 - Yeah, yeah. - Please listen. 474 00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:37,134 Okay. I understand you're mountain guides. 475 00:45:37,136 --> 00:45:38,502 I'm a mountain guide. 476 00:45:38,504 --> 00:45:41,638 We've all got friends missing and dead. 477 00:45:41,640 --> 00:45:43,507 We know that, okay? 478 00:45:43,509 --> 00:45:46,210 We can't get everything up on the first load. 479 00:45:49,315 --> 00:45:51,248 We want to send a doctor. 480 00:45:51,250 --> 00:45:53,083 - Doctor. One Nepali guide. - They're requesting a doctor. 481 00:45:53,085 --> 00:45:55,385 Doctor and one Nepali guide, okay? 482 00:46:01,193 --> 00:46:03,761 Woman 483 00:46:18,210 --> 00:46:21,278 Priority is being stabled and Melissa on it. 484 00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:22,846 Mckinley: Yeah, I think we've explained. 485 00:46:22,848 --> 00:46:25,716 That Russell's in charge of the helipad down here, 486 00:46:25,718 --> 00:46:27,918 which means Melissa and I will be going first. 487 00:46:33,159 --> 00:46:35,692 MAN packaged, ready to go. 488 00:46:35,694 --> 00:46:36,860 MAN 489 00:46:36,862 --> 00:46:39,797 MAN responsive. 490 00:46:39,799 --> 00:46:41,265 MAN 491 00:46:41,267 --> 00:46:42,599 about how many casualties there are now. 492 00:46:42,601 --> 00:46:44,535 We don't have a casualty count now. 493 00:46:44,537 --> 00:46:46,503 We're working on live bodies at the moment. 494 00:46:53,179 --> 00:46:57,347 Brice: All sherpas not needed now leave and come to base camp. 495 00:46:57,349 --> 00:46:59,216 It's starting to get hot. 496 00:47:02,254 --> 00:47:04,822 Mckinley: Jason's gonna go in, try and land in upper site, 497 00:47:04,824 --> 00:47:07,357 pull that sherpa off, bring him down to helipad. 498 00:47:07,359 --> 00:47:10,994 Being switched to long line going to your location. 499 00:47:10,996 --> 00:47:13,797 Woman at middle site. Over. 500 00:47:13,799 --> 00:47:16,200 MAN head injury and internal bleeding. 501 00:47:16,202 --> 00:47:18,535 They're gonna keep him there, package him for a long line. 502 00:47:18,537 --> 00:47:21,471 Yeah, Michael just requested as much rope as possible. 503 00:47:29,114 --> 00:47:32,950 Mckinley: There's a live patient with a query several fracture. 504 00:47:32,952 --> 00:47:36,486 Pulse looks good call me from img, over. 505 00:47:36,488 --> 00:47:38,388 MAN Your right... 506 00:47:38,390 --> 00:47:41,792 Arm bruising, upper left chest pain descending with Eric. 507 00:47:45,731 --> 00:47:47,231 Brice: I need to confirm... 508 00:47:47,233 --> 00:47:49,900 Do we have anymore injured people to pick up or not? 509 00:47:49,902 --> 00:47:52,102 Mckinley: This is the last patient. This is the last patient. 510 00:47:52,104 --> 00:47:53,904 And then we can switch to non-traumatic 511 00:47:53,906 --> 00:47:56,073 body recovery flying down. 512 00:47:56,075 --> 00:47:58,008 And we're gonna put an ecg on them to check for rhythm. 513 00:47:58,010 --> 00:47:59,409 Over. 514 00:47:59,411 --> 00:48:01,778 Woman absolutely in body recovery. 515 00:48:01,780 --> 00:48:03,413 - Yes. - Roger. 516 00:48:03,415 --> 00:48:05,849 Mckinley: Let's get this going. 517 00:49:38,510 --> 00:49:40,877 This is by far the worst tragedy 518 00:49:40,879 --> 00:49:42,646 that's ever happened on Everest. 519 00:49:42,648 --> 00:49:45,882 13 people have died this morning. 520 00:49:45,884 --> 00:49:49,619 And there may be more still that we don't know about. 521 00:49:49,621 --> 00:49:52,189 There hasn't been a year in history 522 00:49:52,191 --> 00:49:54,224 where 13 people have died on Everest, 523 00:49:54,226 --> 00:49:55,792 let alone in one day. 524 00:49:55,794 --> 00:49:57,027 MAN 525 00:49:57,029 --> 00:49:59,763 Michael has done an examination on all bodies. 526 00:49:59,765 --> 00:50:02,499 No signs of life. 527 00:50:02,501 --> 00:50:05,102 Brice: I dare say ... 528 00:50:05,104 --> 00:50:08,672 This is the day that we just all dreaded. 529 00:50:08,674 --> 00:50:12,075 Woman 530 00:50:12,077 --> 00:50:14,544 Shattered. 531 00:50:18,550 --> 00:50:21,318 Every village will be affected. 532 00:50:21,320 --> 00:50:24,554 A lot of our guys will have friends they know. 533 00:50:24,556 --> 00:50:30,093 There's people from all over the khumbu 534 00:50:30,095 --> 00:50:33,296 who have been... You know, young guys who, 535 00:50:33,298 --> 00:50:37,501 at least one of them i know just had a baby. 536 00:50:37,503 --> 00:50:39,536 Just... 537 00:51:03,328 --> 00:51:05,495 MAN ever seen on mount Everest. 538 00:51:05,497 --> 00:51:06,930 Woman 539 00:51:06,932 --> 00:51:09,299 at about 6:30 this morning local time 540 00:51:09,301 --> 00:51:11,735 at one of the busiest times of day on the mountain. 541 00:51:11,737 --> 00:51:13,703 MAN recorded 542 00:51:13,705 --> 00:51:15,072 of the world's tallest mountain. 543 00:51:15,074 --> 00:51:17,707 Woman over the western shoulder. 544 00:51:17,709 --> 00:51:20,210 MAN expected to rise to 16. 545 00:51:20,212 --> 00:51:22,546 MAN being asked about the future 546 00:51:22,548 --> 00:51:24,014 of this year's climbing season 547 00:51:24,016 --> 00:51:26,083 and whether attempts will be made next month. 548 00:51:26,085 --> 00:51:28,852 MAN to the death toll on Everest, 549 00:51:28,854 --> 00:51:31,254 which is already estimated at 250. 550 00:51:31,256 --> 00:51:33,690 MAN to climbing has been declared 551 00:51:33,692 --> 00:51:36,560 while the search for the missing sherpas goes on. 552 00:55:39,371 --> 00:55:40,870 Douglas: And you see the grief, 553 00:55:40,872 --> 00:55:43,039 and you know, that's going back decades. 554 00:55:43,041 --> 00:55:45,408 You know, these grieving sherpa families... 555 00:55:45,410 --> 00:55:49,946 This constant narrative of loss being expressed again. 556 00:56:58,683 --> 00:57:00,784 Woman the search has been suspended 557 00:57:00,786 --> 00:57:02,085 for three other people 558 00:57:02,087 --> 00:57:03,987 who are still missing from mount Everest. 559 00:57:03,989 --> 00:57:08,958 Crews did manage to recover a 13th body overnight. 560 00:57:08,960 --> 00:57:11,194 Wardle: Two days ago, 16 people died. 561 00:57:11,196 --> 00:57:12,896 Including about half of our team. 562 00:57:12,898 --> 00:57:15,665 This morning, I think the sherpas are taking matters 563 00:57:15,667 --> 00:57:17,100 into their own hands. 564 00:57:17,102 --> 00:57:19,636 They're holding a big meeting at base camp. 565 00:57:19,638 --> 00:57:23,940 We've just been told that the sherpas are quite angry 566 00:57:23,942 --> 00:57:26,009 and we should get bags ready 567 00:57:26,011 --> 00:57:28,545 just in case we have to make a swift exit. 568 00:57:28,547 --> 00:57:31,748 We don't know if the sherpas are perhaps gonna target us 569 00:57:31,750 --> 00:57:35,852 as a focus for their anger... Westerners coming here 570 00:57:35,854 --> 00:57:39,189 and causing such a kind of circus at times. 571 00:57:39,191 --> 00:57:41,424 I don't know if there's any still-lingering tension 572 00:57:41,426 --> 00:57:43,626 from last year and the fights that broke out. 573 00:57:43,628 --> 00:57:45,862 We're hoping the same thing doesn't happen again this year, 574 00:57:45,864 --> 00:57:49,532 but we're concerned about filming here right now. 575 00:58:12,424 --> 00:58:14,524 16 people dying at the same time... 576 00:58:14,526 --> 00:58:16,359 It's a huge, huge shock. 577 00:58:16,361 --> 00:58:18,094 When it started to sink in, 578 00:58:18,096 --> 00:58:22,198 the anger got distinctly pointed at the government. 579 00:58:22,200 --> 00:58:25,068 They feel that the government has always been benefiting 580 00:58:25,070 --> 00:58:27,871 off the labor of the sherpas, the lives of the sherpas, 581 00:58:27,873 --> 00:58:30,607 and never put anything back. 582 00:58:30,609 --> 00:58:32,342 Douglas: Nepal's tourism industry. 583 00:58:32,344 --> 00:58:35,311 Is worth $360 million a year. 584 00:58:35,313 --> 00:58:38,281 So when the government offers the families around $400, 585 00:58:38,283 --> 00:58:41,117 which isn't even enough to cover their funeral expenses, 586 00:58:41,119 --> 00:58:44,120 grief turns to anger very quickly. 587 00:58:52,464 --> 00:58:54,230 The government... You know, once it figured out 588 00:58:54,232 --> 00:58:56,332 that it could sell Everest as many times 589 00:58:56,334 --> 00:58:58,568 as it liked every year rather than once, 590 00:58:58,570 --> 00:59:00,637 it's basically just sat there, 591 00:59:00,639 --> 00:59:02,772 occasionally twiddled around the edges 592 00:59:02,774 --> 00:59:04,774 when there was some bad headlines, 593 00:59:04,776 --> 00:59:07,343 but basically not really done anything since. 594 00:59:07,345 --> 00:59:09,879 They've left it to western, you know, operators 595 00:59:09,881 --> 00:59:13,182 and just taken their cut every year, and it's a big cut. 596 00:59:13,184 --> 00:59:14,717 It's like 1/3 of the money 597 00:59:14,719 --> 00:59:17,053 that stays in Nepal from this business 598 00:59:17,055 --> 00:59:18,354 goes to the government. 599 00:59:29,868 --> 00:59:32,101 The sherpas... They're still taking the risks. 600 00:59:32,103 --> 00:59:33,303 You know, they've always taken the risks. 601 00:59:33,305 --> 00:59:34,737 They're still taking the risks. 602 00:59:34,739 --> 00:59:37,574 They, quite reasonably, think that's outrageous. 603 00:59:47,319 --> 00:59:49,886 We worked really hard this morning 604 00:59:49,888 --> 00:59:55,258 to send a letter to the ministry 605 00:59:55,260 --> 00:59:58,995 asking for better conditions for these guys. 606 00:59:58,997 --> 01:00:00,897 I would have thought that might preempt 607 01:00:00,899 --> 01:00:03,433 this type of meeting this afternoon. 608 01:00:12,477 --> 01:00:15,912 Of course we're upset about people dying, 609 01:00:15,914 --> 01:00:19,182 but this is irrational, you know? 610 01:00:19,184 --> 01:00:20,750 It's totally irrational. 611 01:00:32,063 --> 01:00:35,665 I dare say they'd look at the arab summer 612 01:00:35,667 --> 01:00:37,600 and things like that and think 613 01:00:37,602 --> 01:00:40,303 that they can do the same sort of things. 614 01:00:40,305 --> 01:00:43,272 It's hot-headed young guys who really don't have 615 01:00:43,274 --> 01:00:45,341 very much experience on this mountain in any case. 616 01:00:53,718 --> 01:00:55,485 They're angry, yes. They are. 617 01:01:19,611 --> 01:01:21,477 Their grandparents and their fathers 618 01:01:21,479 --> 01:01:24,113 have worked hard in the himalayas. 619 01:01:24,115 --> 01:01:27,917 All the hard work has been done by the sherpas, 620 01:01:27,919 --> 01:01:31,220 which is not fair. 621 01:01:31,222 --> 01:01:32,755 It is not fair. 622 01:02:10,962 --> 01:02:12,695 MAN Every morning, we wake up 623 01:02:12,697 --> 01:02:14,630 and we realize that this is not a dream. 624 01:03:05,917 --> 01:03:09,585 I'm sorry. I don't really know what to say. 625 01:03:09,587 --> 01:03:12,288 We had a... a day... 626 01:03:12,290 --> 01:03:15,892 We've all been expecting an accident, 627 01:03:15,894 --> 01:03:17,360 and we had a very bad day. 628 01:03:17,362 --> 01:03:20,463 The day that we never, ever wanted. 629 01:03:20,465 --> 01:03:25,501 I am afraid every single day the boys go through the icefall. 630 01:03:25,503 --> 01:03:32,642 I fear every day, but, guys, we also have to progress. 631 01:03:32,644 --> 01:03:35,211 We have to progress for the future. 632 01:03:35,213 --> 01:03:39,949 Otherwise, you have no income for your families. 633 01:03:57,402 --> 01:04:00,303 Douglas: This is unprecedented that the sherpas. 634 01:04:00,305 --> 01:04:02,238 Could contemplate giving up a season's earning 635 01:04:02,240 --> 01:04:04,173 in order to make their point. 636 01:04:04,175 --> 01:04:05,708 One of the biggest requests 637 01:04:05,710 --> 01:04:07,844 from the workers in this base camp 638 01:04:07,846 --> 01:04:11,747 is to not continue climbing this year. 639 01:04:11,749 --> 01:04:15,751 We know that's a great big ask, 640 01:04:15,753 --> 01:04:20,423 but it's somewhat small compared to the 16 lives 641 01:04:20,425 --> 01:04:22,158 we've lost in this mountain. 642 01:04:22,160 --> 01:04:24,527 This is not workable for us. 643 01:04:24,529 --> 01:04:26,896 We've still got our sherpas to come to talk to, 644 01:04:26,898 --> 01:04:30,499 to see if we want to carry on climbing or not. 645 01:04:30,501 --> 01:04:32,435 We can't have this happening every time 646 01:04:32,437 --> 01:04:34,537 there's an accident every season. 647 01:04:34,539 --> 01:04:36,305 It's getting out of control. 648 01:04:36,307 --> 01:04:40,610 We're being forced off this mountain by renegade sherpas. 649 01:04:43,848 --> 01:04:45,815 Joshi: We only became a Democratic country in the '90s, 650 01:04:45,817 --> 01:04:48,985 so people feel like they have more freedom of speech. 651 01:04:48,987 --> 01:04:53,522 So whenever they speak something that is a bit more bold, 652 01:04:53,524 --> 01:04:54,957 it obviously takes the western people 653 01:04:54,959 --> 01:04:56,692 who are the base camp by surprise. 654 01:04:56,694 --> 01:04:58,194 They're saying what they think. 655 01:04:58,196 --> 01:05:02,465 They're not rebels. They're just mountain guides. 656 01:05:02,467 --> 01:05:03,933 Brice: I'm asking for a helicopter. 657 01:05:03,935 --> 01:05:05,534 To go to the ministry. 658 01:05:05,536 --> 01:05:08,771 The government has not taken much notice in the past, 659 01:05:08,773 --> 01:05:10,573 so I think now's the time. 660 01:05:10,575 --> 01:05:11,674 I think we're confident 661 01:05:11,676 --> 01:05:14,343 that we're gonna recover the situation, 662 01:05:14,345 --> 01:05:17,813 but only if we act right now. 663 01:05:31,963 --> 01:05:33,162 MAN 664 01:05:33,164 --> 01:05:34,497 Well, it began as a tragedy 665 01:05:34,499 --> 01:05:37,233 and has now turned into an avalanche of resentment 666 01:05:37,235 --> 01:05:39,402 that threatens the entire Everest industry. 667 01:05:39,404 --> 01:05:42,138 Woman Everest are staging a boycott 668 01:05:42,140 --> 01:05:46,742 that threatens to shut down next month's climbing season. 669 01:05:46,744 --> 01:05:49,145 MAN the sherpa climbing guides, 670 01:05:49,147 --> 01:05:52,214 who assume a disproportionately large part of the risk 671 01:05:52,216 --> 01:05:55,518 get a disproportionately small part of the take. 672 01:06:03,194 --> 01:06:06,228 I'd like to know a little bit about what's going on, you know? 673 01:06:06,230 --> 01:06:07,363 We hear from, you know... 674 01:06:07,365 --> 01:06:09,565 Simon hears from the European papers 675 01:06:09,567 --> 01:06:11,267 that the season's over. 676 01:06:11,269 --> 01:06:12,802 I hear from American media 677 01:06:12,804 --> 01:06:14,870 that there's a potential strike 678 01:06:14,872 --> 01:06:17,340 and there's still negotiating going on, but... 679 01:06:17,342 --> 01:06:19,809 - We don't know anything, huh? - Nothing. 680 01:06:19,811 --> 01:06:21,344 We can sit it, 681 01:06:21,346 --> 01:06:23,479 and yet we don't know a thing. 682 01:06:27,218 --> 01:06:30,052 He's paid for a helicopter to come and take him 683 01:06:30,054 --> 01:06:33,656 so we can go talk to the people that can make decisions. 684 01:06:33,658 --> 01:06:35,758 He's working on it, 685 01:06:35,760 --> 01:06:38,027 and until those discussions are over, 686 01:06:38,029 --> 01:06:40,262 there's nothing but speculation, 687 01:06:40,264 --> 01:06:42,631 which is exactly what we're doing. 688 01:06:42,633 --> 01:06:43,799 Sorry, guys. 689 01:06:43,801 --> 01:06:45,267 I mean, if I had more information, 690 01:06:45,269 --> 01:06:46,402 I would give it to you. 691 01:06:46,404 --> 01:06:47,837 I'm going. 692 01:06:47,839 --> 01:06:50,206 There's an inherent risk in mountaineering. 693 01:06:50,208 --> 01:06:51,474 There's an inherent risk in Everest. 694 01:06:51,476 --> 01:06:53,042 There's an inherent risk in the khumbu. 695 01:06:53,044 --> 01:06:56,712 I know that. I'm willing to assume that risk. 696 01:06:56,714 --> 01:06:58,014 Mckinley: I think some of the clients. 697 01:06:58,016 --> 01:06:59,115 Are getting a little restless, 698 01:06:59,117 --> 01:07:00,383 but I think we're in the right place 699 01:07:00,385 --> 01:07:01,617 at the right time, 700 01:07:01,619 --> 01:07:03,652 and we're still going forward on our plan. 701 01:07:03,654 --> 01:07:08,958 So if the word is "yes, your crew will go with you," 702 01:07:08,960 --> 01:07:11,660 we're still going forward. 703 01:07:20,638 --> 01:07:22,838 MAN the Everest climbing season 704 01:07:22,840 --> 01:07:24,340 is hanging in the balance this morning. 705 01:07:24,342 --> 01:07:26,108 Woman officials are flying into try 706 01:07:26,110 --> 01:07:28,044 and ease tensions at base camp. 707 01:07:28,046 --> 01:07:29,545 Douglas: There was a lot of expectation. 708 01:07:29,547 --> 01:07:31,514 Surrounding the ministerial visit. 709 01:07:31,516 --> 01:07:33,649 The sherpas hoped they would show some leadership 710 01:07:33,651 --> 01:07:35,084 and cancel the season. 711 01:07:35,086 --> 01:07:36,786 The clients hoped the government 712 01:07:36,788 --> 01:07:38,320 would agree to the sherpa demands 713 01:07:38,322 --> 01:07:41,824 so the season could continue. 714 01:07:41,826 --> 01:07:43,993 MAN 715 01:09:14,452 --> 01:09:16,852 Douglas: So in failing to act decisively. 716 01:09:16,854 --> 01:09:19,121 Or take any kind of official position, 717 01:09:19,123 --> 01:09:21,023 the government have really left the sherpas 718 01:09:21,025 --> 01:09:23,392 between a rock and a hard place. 719 01:09:55,193 --> 01:09:58,627 But just coming to base camp, they don't make money. 720 01:09:58,629 --> 01:10:01,063 They make money on the mountain, carrying loads up there. 721 01:10:01,065 --> 01:10:02,298 The higher they go, 722 01:10:02,300 --> 01:10:05,334 the more they carry, the more they're paid. 723 01:10:05,336 --> 01:10:07,603 Just coming to base camp, they make nothing. 724 01:10:07,605 --> 01:10:11,507 But for the last 61 years, we've waited. 725 01:10:11,509 --> 01:10:14,710 Something had to happen and then we had to raise our voice 726 01:10:14,712 --> 01:10:17,613 and to such a huge loss. 727 01:10:17,615 --> 01:10:19,982 They're ready to face the consequences. 728 01:10:19,984 --> 01:10:22,885 They'd rather leave than die. 729 01:11:03,027 --> 01:11:05,261 Douglas: I think many expedition leaders found themselves. 730 01:11:05,263 --> 01:11:07,730 In an incredibly difficult position. 731 01:11:07,732 --> 01:11:10,499 Balancing the interests of clients and the sherpas 732 01:11:10,501 --> 01:11:15,437 in a situation like this was never going to be easy. 733 01:11:15,439 --> 01:11:17,740 Linville: What happened was really a tragic day, 734 01:11:17,742 --> 01:11:18,941 a black day. 735 01:11:18,943 --> 01:11:21,410 I feel still positive 736 01:11:21,412 --> 01:11:24,046 if we're gonna be allowed to go up the mountain, you know, 737 01:11:24,048 --> 01:11:26,382 and continue the journey and hopefully it's successful 738 01:11:26,384 --> 01:11:28,517 and you know, life goes on, 739 01:11:28,519 --> 01:11:31,654 and just try to remember the guys for what they were 740 01:11:31,656 --> 01:11:33,455 and carry a positive message. 741 01:11:33,457 --> 01:11:36,091 I knew the risks. 742 01:11:36,093 --> 01:11:39,028 From a personal point of view, i was prepared to take that, 743 01:11:39,030 --> 01:11:41,630 but to ask the sherpa boys 744 01:11:41,632 --> 01:11:43,165 to go through it time and time again, 745 01:11:43,167 --> 01:11:45,234 it's a difficult one. 746 01:11:45,236 --> 01:11:48,837 It's hard just to... 747 01:11:48,839 --> 01:11:54,076 Not to think about what happened to all those families, 748 01:11:54,078 --> 01:11:57,279 those boys. 749 01:11:57,281 --> 01:11:59,882 They're doing it for us. 750 01:11:59,884 --> 01:12:05,721 But I put so much work into this and effort. 751 01:12:05,723 --> 01:12:09,124 Then you start to justify it. 752 01:12:10,761 --> 01:12:12,828 Doyle: For us, it's déjà vu, isn't it, Jeff? 753 01:12:12,830 --> 01:12:14,897 Yeah. We've been through this, you know? 754 01:12:14,899 --> 01:12:17,466 This was 2012. 755 01:12:17,468 --> 01:12:20,336 Actually, what Russell feared would happen in 2012 756 01:12:20,338 --> 01:12:22,805 is exactly what happened. 757 01:12:22,807 --> 01:12:24,640 To have to come back here a second time 758 01:12:24,642 --> 01:12:29,345 only to get canceled again and never given the shot is... 759 01:12:29,347 --> 01:12:33,482 Yeah, that'll be... that'll be devastating to me, I think. 760 01:12:33,484 --> 01:12:34,683 Yeah. 761 01:12:38,422 --> 01:12:39,855 Woman this week, 762 01:12:39,857 --> 01:12:42,991 sherpas are leading a boycott after that deadly avalanche. 763 01:12:42,993 --> 01:12:45,094 MAN climbing for those 764 01:12:45,096 --> 01:12:47,896 who might want to continue very, very challenging. 765 01:12:47,898 --> 01:12:50,132 Woman will forfeit the money 766 01:12:50,134 --> 01:12:52,000 they paid for the journey. 767 01:12:52,002 --> 01:12:55,170 That can top $75,000. 768 01:12:55,172 --> 01:12:59,174 I flew back again here this morning 769 01:12:59,176 --> 01:13:04,680 to find that I'm probably the last team to decide 770 01:13:04,682 --> 01:13:07,316 whether we're going to be continuing on the mountain 771 01:13:07,318 --> 01:13:09,251 or not. 772 01:13:09,253 --> 01:13:11,086 Yes, we had one avalanche. 773 01:13:11,088 --> 01:13:13,021 Unfortunately, it killed a lot of people. 774 01:13:13,023 --> 01:13:16,925 But that's no reason to stop the expedition. 775 01:13:16,927 --> 01:13:20,129 Today, a delegation... They came to the base camp 776 01:13:20,131 --> 01:13:23,932 to try and calm things down. 777 01:13:23,934 --> 01:13:27,269 But I'm afraid it just escalated things. 778 01:13:27,271 --> 01:13:28,737 It didn't help. 779 01:13:28,739 --> 01:13:35,411 We know that there's only a group of four or five guys 780 01:13:35,413 --> 01:13:39,281 that are causing this problem, 781 01:13:39,283 --> 01:13:43,085 but then they excite 300-odd guys, 782 01:13:43,087 --> 01:13:48,857 and when you have mob rule, what can we do? 783 01:13:48,859 --> 01:13:50,793 Effectively, 784 01:13:50,795 --> 01:13:54,062 what these militant sherpas are saying is... 785 01:13:54,064 --> 01:13:56,632 If our sherpas go through the icefall, 786 01:13:56,634 --> 01:13:59,401 they'll beat them up. 787 01:13:59,403 --> 01:14:04,206 Then we all know about the fighting on Everest last year. 788 01:14:04,208 --> 01:14:09,845 We would hope that there will be some form of punishment 789 01:14:09,847 --> 01:14:11,346 to these guys. 790 01:14:11,348 --> 01:14:14,783 Or we need to get rid of them, out of this system 791 01:14:14,785 --> 01:14:16,218 so it doesn't happen again. 792 01:14:16,220 --> 01:14:19,555 You know who employs them, Russ? These four or five? 793 01:14:19,557 --> 01:14:23,025 I know who employs some of them, yeah. 794 01:14:23,027 --> 01:14:25,027 And there's no way you can talk to their owners 795 01:14:25,029 --> 01:14:27,963 and... I mean, if this was one of your sherpas, 796 01:14:27,965 --> 01:14:29,798 you could have them removed from the mountain. 797 01:14:29,800 --> 01:14:32,100 Well, I would. Yes. 798 01:14:32,102 --> 01:14:33,402 So... 799 01:14:33,404 --> 01:14:35,838 But, yes. 800 01:14:35,840 --> 01:14:40,542 But I don't know how to do that. 801 01:14:43,047 --> 01:14:45,314 These people are totally irrational. 802 01:14:45,316 --> 01:14:47,416 They don't care. 803 01:14:47,418 --> 01:14:49,084 Next week or next month, 804 01:14:49,086 --> 01:14:53,288 they'll be at home with nothing to eat. 805 01:14:56,427 --> 01:14:58,393 We have one last chance 806 01:14:58,395 --> 01:15:02,965 as our sherpas are still prepared to go up the mountain. 807 01:15:02,967 --> 01:15:06,869 As far as I know, our sherpas want to climb. 808 01:15:06,871 --> 01:15:09,071 But they fear for their life. 809 01:15:09,073 --> 01:15:12,975 Phurba will be here early tomorrow. 810 01:15:12,977 --> 01:15:15,511 We have to discuss everything with him. 811 01:15:17,448 --> 01:15:20,315 So, sorry, guys. 812 01:15:20,317 --> 01:15:22,251 That's it. 813 01:15:35,232 --> 01:15:37,566 - Oh, namaste. - Namaste. 814 01:16:13,070 --> 01:16:16,271 How's it going? Okay. How you doing? 815 01:16:20,177 --> 01:16:23,512 Douglas: Sherpas are not people who express their emotions. 816 01:16:23,514 --> 01:16:25,814 Very willingly. 817 01:16:25,816 --> 01:16:28,550 So it's sometimes hard to read them. 818 01:16:28,552 --> 01:16:33,622 Brice: Lots of attention on you now. 819 01:16:33,624 --> 01:16:35,624 It's okay. Just relax. 820 01:16:35,626 --> 01:16:38,193 Let's have a cup of tea first, huh? 821 01:16:41,532 --> 01:16:43,198 Namaste. 822 01:17:16,200 --> 01:17:18,667 So, how's everyone at home? 823 01:17:20,004 --> 01:17:21,169 Upset? 824 01:17:21,171 --> 01:17:22,671 - A bit upset. - Yeah. 825 01:17:22,673 --> 01:17:25,273 I know. Just... 826 01:17:25,275 --> 01:17:27,309 Understandably, you know. 827 01:17:27,311 --> 01:17:30,045 Mm-hmm. 828 01:17:30,047 --> 01:17:33,215 And wives. How do wives feel? 829 01:17:33,217 --> 01:17:34,383 Don't want you coming or... 830 01:17:34,385 --> 01:17:37,352 How they want... how they say? 831 01:17:37,354 --> 01:17:41,757 They are happy that we're back, but they're still afraid... 832 01:17:41,759 --> 01:17:42,958 Afraid. 833 01:17:42,960 --> 01:17:44,126 Afraid, too, that we're going back again. 834 01:17:44,128 --> 01:17:47,095 Yeah. I'm sure. 835 01:17:47,097 --> 01:17:48,597 We're all afraid. 836 01:17:48,599 --> 01:17:52,367 Yeah. 837 01:17:52,369 --> 01:17:54,970 We're all afraid, phurba. 838 01:17:54,972 --> 01:17:56,772 So. 839 01:17:56,774 --> 01:17:58,140 What to do. 840 01:18:00,778 --> 01:18:02,210 Want to go north side? 841 01:18:02,212 --> 01:18:03,679 - Still very risky. - Huh? 842 01:18:09,553 --> 01:18:12,087 There's risk every time. Doesn't matter where we go. 843 01:18:12,089 --> 01:18:13,588 Mm-hmm. 844 01:18:15,926 --> 01:18:20,529 So, um... 845 01:18:20,531 --> 01:18:23,498 I understand how you feel. 846 01:18:23,500 --> 01:18:24,900 You want to climb, 847 01:18:24,902 --> 01:18:29,638 but you also have respect for the people and everything. 848 01:18:29,640 --> 01:18:31,139 Yeah. 849 01:18:31,141 --> 01:18:37,312 Although, I checked with all the Buddhists and hindu. 850 01:18:37,314 --> 01:18:40,882 You know, if we respect, 851 01:18:40,884 --> 01:18:43,719 then we can carry on doing our work, 852 01:18:43,721 --> 01:18:48,023 but what we feel here is danger 853 01:18:48,025 --> 01:18:50,525 for you from other sherpa. 854 01:18:50,527 --> 01:18:52,294 Did you hear anything about that? 855 01:18:52,296 --> 01:18:54,730 - No, I didn't. - Didn't hear that? 856 01:19:00,104 --> 01:19:04,139 So, for me, i feel afraid for you. 857 01:19:04,141 --> 01:19:08,243 We feel danger for you guys if you carry on climbing, 858 01:19:08,245 --> 01:19:13,582 but maybe later, some violence to you... 859 01:19:13,584 --> 01:19:16,952 How you feel about that. 860 01:19:18,355 --> 01:19:20,388 'Cause this is not normal sherpa. 861 01:19:26,163 --> 01:19:27,796 How do you guys feel? 862 01:19:32,936 --> 01:19:35,036 Maybe you're angry with me. 863 01:19:35,038 --> 01:19:36,772 And if you're angry, then you have to tell me, 864 01:19:36,774 --> 01:19:41,343 but, you know, 865 01:19:41,345 --> 01:19:45,013 I think pressure coming from outside... 866 01:19:45,015 --> 01:19:46,948 And I'm afraid for you. 867 01:19:46,950 --> 01:19:50,352 So, I think we have to stop expedition. 868 01:19:50,354 --> 01:19:52,087 - You agree? - Mm-hmm. 869 01:19:52,089 --> 01:19:53,355 You agree to stop expedition? 870 01:19:53,357 --> 01:19:55,457 - Yeah. - Everyone? 871 01:19:55,459 --> 01:19:57,559 - Yes. - Yeah? 872 01:19:57,561 --> 01:19:59,427 So I have to tell the members like that? 873 01:19:59,429 --> 01:20:01,630 Mm-hmm. 874 01:20:01,632 --> 01:20:06,935 I don't want, but also, if just us, 875 01:20:06,937 --> 01:20:09,571 how can I afford all the rope? 876 01:20:09,573 --> 01:20:13,241 Because I have to buy from expedition operators. 877 01:20:13,243 --> 01:20:19,080 So, for me, i can't afford just us. 878 01:20:19,082 --> 01:20:21,616 You know, before it was always friendly, 879 01:20:21,618 --> 01:20:24,786 smiling sherpa, always helping. 880 01:20:24,788 --> 01:20:28,023 These guys have spoiled your reputation. 881 01:20:37,000 --> 01:20:38,767 Okay. 882 01:20:38,769 --> 01:20:40,669 What to do now. 883 01:20:40,671 --> 01:20:42,571 I have to go and tell members we're finished. 884 01:20:42,573 --> 01:20:43,638 Mm-hmm. 885 01:20:43,640 --> 01:20:46,608 You know, my prayers are with you. 886 01:20:46,610 --> 01:20:47,709 Sad. 887 01:21:06,296 --> 01:21:08,463 Glad you're okay. 888 01:21:25,349 --> 01:21:27,382 So glad to see you here. 889 01:21:44,735 --> 01:21:48,336 So, as I told you last night, 890 01:21:48,338 --> 01:21:50,805 it's unlikely that we would continue 891 01:21:50,807 --> 01:21:55,277 and the sherpas feel under too much threat. 892 01:21:55,279 --> 01:21:58,046 They've already been told if they go through icefall, 893 01:21:58,048 --> 01:21:59,915 they'll break their legs. 894 01:21:59,917 --> 01:22:02,684 So... 895 01:22:02,686 --> 01:22:05,754 This is the word that comes to them 896 01:22:05,756 --> 01:22:09,324 that these other guys up here will break their legs 897 01:22:09,326 --> 01:22:11,893 if they go through the icefall. 898 01:22:11,895 --> 01:22:13,762 Yes, they want to climb. 899 01:22:13,764 --> 01:22:15,230 Out of respect, they don't want to climb, 900 01:22:15,232 --> 01:22:20,168 and out of fear, they don't want to climb. 901 01:22:20,170 --> 01:22:21,937 Not fear of the mountain. 902 01:22:21,939 --> 01:22:23,638 Fear of the people. 903 01:22:23,640 --> 01:22:25,941 So there you go, guys. What can I say? 904 01:22:25,943 --> 01:22:27,509 And I don't know what to do. 905 01:22:27,511 --> 01:22:29,044 And phurba doesn't know what to do. 906 01:22:29,046 --> 01:22:32,480 And we're pissed off. 907 01:22:32,482 --> 01:22:35,583 We're angry that these people are ruining our business, 908 01:22:35,585 --> 01:22:37,986 you know? 909 01:22:37,988 --> 01:22:41,790 Their business. What can we do? 910 01:22:41,792 --> 01:22:43,391 I don't know how to apologize to you. 911 01:22:43,393 --> 01:22:47,896 I... don't know how to do that. 912 01:22:47,898 --> 01:22:51,599 Especially the people that have come twice. 913 01:22:58,809 --> 01:23:03,111 Okay. So, now how to get out of here. 914 01:23:03,113 --> 01:23:04,746 Essentially, we were just given the news 915 01:23:04,748 --> 01:23:08,283 that the sherpas' legs would be broken 916 01:23:08,285 --> 01:23:14,122 if they were to help us 917 01:23:14,124 --> 01:23:16,591 get up this mountain. 918 01:23:16,593 --> 01:23:18,426 How can you possibly argue with that one? 919 01:23:18,428 --> 01:23:21,963 Being held captive by terrorists, is how I look at it. 920 01:23:21,965 --> 01:23:25,266 I mean, when people demand change 921 01:23:25,268 --> 01:23:28,770 and threaten it by violence, that's a terrorist, you know. 922 01:23:28,772 --> 01:23:30,105 And we in the states, we know what that is... 923 01:23:30,107 --> 01:23:32,173 After 9/11. 924 01:23:32,175 --> 01:23:36,811 We've got a group here that's terrorizing base camp. 925 01:23:36,813 --> 01:23:38,580 How do you anticipate that, you know? 926 01:23:38,582 --> 01:23:40,115 How do you... 927 01:23:40,117 --> 01:23:42,050 How do you mentally prepare yourself 928 01:23:42,052 --> 01:23:43,618 to get up here and then be turned away 929 01:23:43,620 --> 01:23:46,054 because a group of terrorists are demanding 930 01:23:46,056 --> 01:23:48,857 that westerners leave base camp? 931 01:23:48,859 --> 01:23:53,361 You know, it's... it's hard. 932 01:23:53,363 --> 01:23:55,797 Do I have it in me for a third time 933 01:23:55,799 --> 01:23:58,033 to try to come back and do Everest? 934 01:23:58,035 --> 01:24:00,001 I've got to go talk with my family, I think, 935 01:24:00,003 --> 01:24:03,738 before I make any final decisions. 936 01:24:03,740 --> 01:24:05,840 But I certainly would like to get to the top 937 01:24:05,842 --> 01:24:08,410 of the highest mountain in the world 938 01:24:08,412 --> 01:24:11,646 and be able to provide that legacy to my family 939 01:24:11,648 --> 01:24:14,315 as something they... 940 01:24:14,317 --> 01:24:17,852 Now you got me. 941 01:24:20,390 --> 01:24:21,489 MAN 942 01:24:21,491 --> 01:24:24,125 We'll be back hopefully next year. 943 01:24:24,127 --> 01:24:25,527 One way or another, 944 01:24:25,529 --> 01:24:28,830 I'll tack the top of that mountain at some point, 945 01:24:28,832 --> 01:24:31,766 so... just a slight setback. 946 01:24:31,768 --> 01:24:34,569 I'm gonna feel better when I go home knowing 947 01:24:34,571 --> 01:24:36,604 that we didn't climb up that mountain 948 01:24:36,606 --> 01:24:38,073 after the big tragedy. 949 01:24:38,075 --> 01:24:40,275 It's just better to show my respect 950 01:24:40,277 --> 01:24:43,411 for the sherpa community by leaving. 951 01:24:43,413 --> 01:24:45,814 Joshi: I think the expedition organizers... 952 01:24:45,816 --> 01:24:48,550 They knew in their heart what their sherpa wants, 953 01:24:48,552 --> 01:24:51,786 but they couldn't tell that clearly to their clients. 954 01:24:51,788 --> 01:24:53,955 It's just the excuses they are using 955 01:24:53,957 --> 01:24:56,758 to throw the blame on somebody else, yeah. 956 01:25:14,611 --> 01:25:19,247 If this didn't change anything, then nothing ever will. 957 01:25:19,249 --> 01:25:22,250 Then Nepal will just be like the wild, wild west 958 01:25:22,252 --> 01:25:26,754 for the western operators to do whatever they want. 959 01:25:26,756 --> 01:25:28,723 This thing has happened, which is a sad thing, 960 01:25:28,725 --> 01:25:31,059 but hopefully, this will bring something positive 961 01:25:31,061 --> 01:25:33,094 into the mountain. 962 01:25:33,096 --> 01:25:36,297 Brice: It must have some effect of the Everest industry... 963 01:25:36,299 --> 01:25:39,200 The accident this year. 964 01:25:39,202 --> 01:25:40,935 I think this made me more determined 965 01:25:40,937 --> 01:25:42,737 to try and change the rules 966 01:25:42,739 --> 01:25:49,177 so we can continue with Everest as usual but in a safer way. 967 01:25:49,179 --> 01:25:51,246 I've been a mountain guide all my life. 968 01:25:51,248 --> 01:25:57,852 We have to deal with death a lot, and then try and move on. 969 01:25:57,854 --> 01:25:59,387 Hopefully, we will have a team 970 01:25:59,389 --> 01:26:02,790 to go to climb mount Everest again next year. 971 01:26:47,070 --> 01:26:48,937 Douglas: The game shifted. 972 01:26:48,939 --> 01:26:51,673 It would be easy in the chaos of this last week 973 01:26:51,675 --> 01:26:55,877 to lose sight of what has happened here. 974 01:26:55,879 --> 01:27:00,315 The sherpas have effectively canceled the season. 975 01:27:00,317 --> 01:27:02,750 They had a choice, and in the end, 976 01:27:02,752 --> 01:27:05,420 they've chosen respect for themselves and the mountain 977 01:27:05,422 --> 01:27:08,389 ahead of money. 978 01:27:08,391 --> 01:27:12,627 Canceling the season will be a welcomed breathing space. 979 01:27:12,629 --> 01:27:15,863 So maybe it will be calmer. 980 01:27:15,865 --> 01:27:18,633 It will be nice for Everest to be calm for a bit 981 01:27:18,635 --> 01:27:23,304 rather than this kind of madness. 982 01:27:25,742 --> 01:27:27,742 My father said that you don't conquer 983 01:27:27,744 --> 01:27:28,943 these mountains, you know? 984 01:27:28,945 --> 01:27:30,612 You just crawl up, 985 01:27:30,614 --> 01:27:33,681 as a child crawling to your mother's lap, 986 01:27:33,683 --> 01:27:36,618 which is the same approach i think people should take. 987 01:27:36,620 --> 01:27:40,021 Then there'd be less accidents. 988 01:27:40,023 --> 01:27:43,291 Norbu: He was the first Asian to become famous, 989 01:27:43,293 --> 01:27:44,692 known around the world, 990 01:27:44,694 --> 01:27:47,996 and he became a great metaphor for young men 991 01:27:47,998 --> 01:27:51,432 all alike to show that you can make it on your own, 992 01:27:51,434 --> 01:27:53,401 hard work is what it takes. 993 01:27:53,403 --> 01:27:55,236 And so he became a real symbol of hope 994 01:27:55,238 --> 01:27:57,772 for millions around the world. 995 01:28:34,311 --> 01:28:39,547 Douglas: Tenzing gave the name sherpa a currency. 996 01:28:39,549 --> 01:28:42,283 Which will never be exhausted. 997 01:28:42,285 --> 01:28:44,585 So it may only be now 998 01:28:44,587 --> 01:28:47,689 that they're really beginning to take advantage of it. 999 01:28:47,691 --> 01:28:49,891 They've got control of climbing the mountain, 1000 01:28:49,893 --> 01:28:51,893 and it's come full circle in a way. 1001 01:29:03,573 --> 01:29:05,139 Jamling: My father said he climbed. 1002 01:29:05,141 --> 01:29:06,941 So that we wouldn't have to. 1003 01:29:09,245 --> 01:29:11,713 He wanted to give us the best education 1004 01:29:11,715 --> 01:29:14,182 so we could continue our lives in some other careers 1005 01:29:14,184 --> 01:29:16,551 rather than climbing. 1006 01:29:16,553 --> 01:29:18,586 Because climbing was dangerous. 75804

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