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My case is now in the government's hands.
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The government can decide
if they want to give me the opportunity
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or they don't give me the opportunity.
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- Eric.
- Huh?
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How are you?
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Good, and you?
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Good, my son.
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I'm glad to see you.
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This is the first time I've seen you
on a video call.
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Where are you?
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I'm here, next to Milo.
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Are you together?
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Yes, my son.
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Do you want to come here? We are close.
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We are far.
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Rebecca!Rebecca!
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I want to see you.
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I'm tired.
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Tired, sweetie?
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Tired, but beautiful.
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Yes, I'm tired.
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One day, in any moment,
we can be together.
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That's not going to happen.
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What?
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What I want is for you to send me money
to buy a piece of land and a house.
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And then down the line,
if you ask me to come,
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I'll tell you, "Okay."
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That was not the deal.
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Yes, but no.
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For the moment, let's worry
about paying what we owe and my house,
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a plot of land and then, "Rebecca, come!"
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And then I'll go with pleasure.
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Do you like that idea?
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I do!
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Do you like that idea?
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No. No.
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Why not?
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Because I want to have you close.
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- Huh?
- Is it not better to be together?
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- Huh?
- At the moment...
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- Yes.
- No.
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Yes.Do you not love me?
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I love you plenty,
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but I want a house first
and a piece of land.
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What do you want more?
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Love between family or material things?
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If they deport us, where will we go?
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Okay. So, don't talk anymore about that
to me.
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Rebequita. Don't be like that.
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I'm not like that.
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This nightmare started
the day you got arrested.
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I'm running a name right now.
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- What have we got?
- No movement yet.
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We have two vehicles,
both belonging to the individual,
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so hopefully...
they go to work at some point.
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Even though they're not
legally allowed to work,
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they're working. We know that.
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{\an8}You know, they have to...
They do what they do to survive.
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{\an8}You know?
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That's why they drive.
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They're not allowed to drive,
but they drive anyway.
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And the more they do,
the more they put themselves out there.
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If people...
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stayed home,
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they probably wouldn't be encountered
all that much,
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but you gotta live.
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It is what it is. I mean...
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Tango?
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Um, no.
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- You got his ID?
- Yeah.
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- Your name is Brian?
- Yes.
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- You're from Honduras?
- Yes.
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- What type of work do you do?
- Construction.
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Please let me go.
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He was arrested
by Border Patrol at the border.
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Have you been arrested by the police here?
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- Nothing?
- No. Nothing.
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I have a son here.
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That's his child's birth certificate.
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- He wants you to know he has a child.
- He waits for me.
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We're gonna take your fingerprints, okay?
Here. All right.
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- Do you wanna hold this?
- Yep, I got you.
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All right, let me see
your right hand here. Thumb.
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Technology at its best.
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Where it gets sensitive is
when the kids are involved.
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I'm a dad, and I have a grandchild,
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and it's tough when the kids are involved.
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No guns, no knives, no nothing? No knives?
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Nobody wants to see children hurt.
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Sometimes, it happens.
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It's not very nice, but...
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that's the law.
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Bad timing for that dude to be coming out.
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Yeah. But you did the right thing, though.
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You had to move in.
You had to make contact.
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Collateral damage there, man.
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Even under the Obama administration,
when we had the priorities,
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that really didn't limit anything.
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What people didn't realize is
there was this little...
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I call it the fine print at the bottom
that said,
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"You can arrest anybody
you basically want to,"
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you know, if you think
they present a threat to the United States
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"or could possibly present a threat,"
and we did.
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It's so easy to say, "You got arrested.
Boom. You're a threat to public safety."
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It doesn't matter what for.
There's millions of people to choose from.
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Ma'am.
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{\an8}Every person
that commits additional crimes
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{\an8}here in the United States
after entering illegally,
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every one of them we take
off the streets makes everyone safer.
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Here in Charlotte, we were able
to do a lot of our enforcement work
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inside the jail
with our local law enforcement partners.
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Everyone that is brought in
to our arrest processing,
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{\an8}which is, last year, over 35,000 people,
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{\an8}they're asked the same two questions,
every single person:
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{\an8}Where were you born?
Where are you a citizen or national of?
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Depending on how they answer
those questions,
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is whether they're gonna enter
into the 287 program.
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There's thousands of jails
across the country.
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ICE can't have officers
at every jail all the time.
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{\an8}We have limited resources.
We're not there all the time.
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{\an8}If you're a 287 program,
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{\an8}hey, you get arrested,
a local deputy is right there.
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Run the checks.
Find out who that person is.
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So it's faster,
and people don't slip through the cracks.
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So, essentially, it's a force multiplier.
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So, a person is brought in for,
let's say, DWI.
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There's no ID on them.
We don't know who they are.
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They're ran through this federal database.
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So, if we do not have this program,
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they will be released
back out into the community
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once they satisfy their state charges.
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But because we have the program,
ICE comes in,
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and at that time, ICE makes the decision
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whether they're removed
from this community, or they're not.
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Most likely, they will be removed
from this community,
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because they're here illegally.
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The fundamental premise
of law enforcement is
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that federal, state and local
work together collaboratively.
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And why it's a big issue
in Mecklenburg County...
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we've been doing this for 12 years.
Just right now, it's an election.
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The sheriff's a really good guy too.
Just, you know...
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sheriff's an elected official
in North Carolina, obviously,
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and he's gotta do what the voters want.
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So the sheriff
who's currently in office right now,
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he supports a few programs
that are a little problematic.
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{\an8}Yeah.
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{\an8}So, I'm Latino, and I'm an immigrant,
so for me, one of the biggest issue is
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{\an8}that he's partnering
with Immigration and Customs Enforcement
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to basically deputize sheriffs
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and place people
into deportation proceedings
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if they come in contact with the jail.
And that could be something
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as little as a traffic citation,
driving without a license.
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So, we're really trying to make sure
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that people know that on May 8th,
you can go out to vote.
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- Okay.
- You can vote for our community.
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- Okay.
- Yeah.
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So we're trying
to push people to vote for Garry McFadden.
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Because he's committed
to ending the program.
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If we can get more Latinos out,
it will make a big difference.
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- I wish I could vote.
- I wish I could vote.
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I can't vote.
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So I'm trying to motivate people
who can vote
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to vote for issues
that will affect people like me,
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people who like...
who are affected by these policies.
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Go tell everybody you know.
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If they live in Mecklenburg County,
it matters so much right now,
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'cause we have a possibility
of getting rid of the program.
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Five seconds.
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{\an8}Hi.
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Please, McFadden,
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- we want to do something.
- Sure.
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I, Garry McFadden, promise
that I will burn the 287 if I got elected.
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I, Garry McFadden,
promise I will burn 287.
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I want him to sign this
for "The Voice of Immigrants."
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- You're going to sign it.
- Burn it!
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Sign here!
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We're just leaving the literature.
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We're just leaving the literature,
and we left one on your door.
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Thank you, ma'am.
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I worked in homicide for 22 years.
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{\an8}287 has hindered my investigations.
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{\an8}Why?
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{\an8}Witnesses don't wanna come forward.
Even victims don't wanna come forward.
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They are reluctant to talk to us.
People won't even name the suspect
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because they're afraid
they will also be deported.
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People approached me,
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and one thing stood out
more than anything else was that fear,
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the fear of being deported,
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the fear of, you know, coming home,
and your father is gone.
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Do I understand that? Yes.
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In the African-American community,
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we have that fear of being shot and killed
by law enforcement.
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So when the people are talking
about these fears and uneasiness,
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I can relate to that.
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I do believe that once
the government's got their sights on you,
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you're done, man.
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{\an8}It doesn't matter what you do.
You're done.
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{\an8}And that's where I'm at right now.
The government has got me done.
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I've been stopped by the cops twice.
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And once they stop me,
and my record comes up,
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they can't believe it.
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"They're like,"
Are you a Marine?
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I'm like, "Yes, I am.
That's what it says on my record, right?"
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And they're like, "Yeah."
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Bulk Fuel Specialist, 1391.
Pumping gas and kicking ass.
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That was my job.
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I refueled cars, tanks, helicopters.
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And they're like,
"It also says you were deported."
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I'm like, "And that is right too."
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And they just can't get it
through their head.
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They're like, "So, right now,
I have to turn you in."
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Yeah, that's what the law says.
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Those two times, they haven't.
They've been Marines,
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and they're like,
"No, man, I just can't do that.
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You're a Marine. You served this country.
You're as American as I am."
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And both times, they let me go home.
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I got in trouble with the law
in New Mexico.
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I got caught with some marijuana.
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Under the advice of my lawyer,
I pleaded guilty to it.
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I didn't serve any time in jail.
They let me out right there and then.
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They said that was gonna be the end of it,
and I moved on with my life.
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Twelve years later,
I got a translator job,
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and I'm offered to go to Costa Rica.
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Relax, Mama.
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When I was coming back,
they didn't let me back into the country.
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They said that because
of a previous conviction that I had,
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that I was a terrorist,
and that I wasn't allowed in the country.
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And I told them, like,
"A terrorist? I'm a Marine, man."
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And I got deported because of that.
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The day that I got deported,
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we got to a point on the Mexican side
where they ask if you have tattoos.
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So I showed him,
and he was shaking his head,
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and he told me...
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that he felt really bad
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about what the US government was doing
to his countrymen,
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and...
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but he said especially
to servicemen like me.
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And that kind of got me wondering,
because I had never heard that before.
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That was the first time I got exposed to,
"What? Wait. Wait a minute.
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You mean there's more than me?"
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I never doubtedthat the United States was my country.
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{\an8}There's nothing I would've changed
about that.
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{\an8}I feel like I would have died
for that country.
244
00:15:37,227 --> 00:15:39,188
I got over 160 combat missions.
245
00:15:39,688 --> 00:15:42,024
I got blood on my shoes. How about you?
246
00:15:43,317 --> 00:15:46,278
{\an8}People enjoy those freedoms
'cause I got blood on my shoes,
247
00:15:46,362 --> 00:15:48,739
on my boots, on my desert camo.
248
00:16:00,501 --> 00:16:03,337
I remember the judge saying
something about deportation
249
00:16:03,420 --> 00:16:04,421
when I took my plea deal,
250
00:16:04,964 --> 00:16:08,384
but, you know, I never knew
that veterans could be deported.
251
00:16:08,467 --> 00:16:11,387
{\an8}And then I just started seeing
more people and more people.
252
00:16:11,470 --> 00:16:12,972
{\an8}Now, there's hundreds of us,
253
00:16:13,055 --> 00:16:15,891
{\an8}and possibly, there could be thousands
of us out there.
254
00:16:17,226 --> 00:16:20,854
ICE came to pick me up at the facility.
255
00:16:20,938 --> 00:16:23,774
{\an8}Even the ICE agents were like, "Oh, man!"
256
00:16:23,857 --> 00:16:26,986
{\an8}"Oh, I'm a veteran too.
You're a veteran? Oh, wow!
257
00:16:28,070 --> 00:16:31,532
It sucks that you're getting deported,
that you're going through this right here.
258
00:16:31,615 --> 00:16:32,908
I wish we could just let you go,
259
00:16:32,992 --> 00:16:35,077
and you didn't have
to go through this process.
260
00:16:35,160 --> 00:16:38,330
"You served this country, you know.
You deserve to be here."
261
00:16:49,133 --> 00:16:50,259
I went to Vietnam.
262
00:16:50,884 --> 00:16:52,302
I feel betrayed...
263
00:16:53,137 --> 00:16:55,848
{\an8}by the United States government,
264
00:16:55,931 --> 00:16:59,560
{\an8}especially our president, Donald Trump.
265
00:16:59,643 --> 00:17:01,020
He's a dodger.
266
00:17:02,229 --> 00:17:05,399
He refused
to go to the service so many times.
267
00:17:05,983 --> 00:17:09,820
My mom brought me to the US
when I was two years old.
268
00:17:10,654 --> 00:17:15,409
Man, what a great nation to pick me up
and my mother from the ground
269
00:17:15,492 --> 00:17:16,910
and just give us shelter,
270
00:17:16,994 --> 00:17:19,538
give us food,
give us an opportunity to work.
271
00:17:19,621 --> 00:17:22,082
That's the fucking country
I wanna be a part of.
272
00:17:22,166 --> 00:17:24,209
And if that requires...
273
00:17:24,293 --> 00:17:29,256
I always heard that freedom ain't free.
Freedom is built on the blood of patriots.
274
00:17:29,339 --> 00:17:30,716
Fuck, I want it to be my blood
275
00:17:30,799 --> 00:17:33,510
to be part of that patriot blood
on the ground, you know?
276
00:17:34,136 --> 00:17:38,015
I'm okay to die for it,
but I'm not okay to live in it, you know?
277
00:17:38,098 --> 00:17:40,350
That's kind of bullshit.
278
00:17:41,685 --> 00:17:44,188
Basically, we're deported
for life right now.
279
00:17:44,271 --> 00:17:47,524
And the only way
to go back to the United States
280
00:17:47,608 --> 00:17:49,526
is if we die.
281
00:17:51,236 --> 00:17:55,908
It we're dead, then we're able to get back
to the States, our remains,
282
00:17:55,991 --> 00:17:59,870
and they'll honor us. You know
what I mean? Do a military funeral.
283
00:18:01,246 --> 00:18:03,290
Flag will be given
to your mom or your dad,
284
00:18:03,373 --> 00:18:05,501
and they'll say, "Thank you
from a grateful nation,"
285
00:18:05,584 --> 00:18:07,419
and there's no honor in that.
286
00:18:07,503 --> 00:18:09,838
I think we need
to bring these men home alive.
287
00:18:11,423 --> 00:18:12,966
See that big wall, Mama?
288
00:18:13,467 --> 00:18:14,676
You see that big wall?
289
00:18:15,052 --> 00:18:16,637
Do you know what this wall's for?
290
00:18:17,805 --> 00:18:22,518
So that we can't cross no more.
Look. See? Watch.
291
00:18:23,393 --> 00:18:24,728
We can't cross right here.
292
00:18:25,145 --> 00:18:26,313
Say, "Uh-oh."
293
00:18:26,939 --> 00:18:27,981
Uh-oh!
294
00:18:28,690 --> 00:18:30,984
How do I feel
about everything that I've been through,
295
00:18:31,068 --> 00:18:34,154
and being so close to home
and never being able to go home?
296
00:18:35,614 --> 00:18:36,614
There's not words.
297
00:18:39,493 --> 00:18:41,411
I just don't wanna go back illegally.
298
00:18:42,121 --> 00:18:44,289
You're always gonna have
to watch your back.
299
00:18:44,373 --> 00:18:47,167
Any type of trouble you get into,
and you're gone.
300
00:18:57,928 --> 00:19:02,516
I have these nightmares
of ICE agents raiding the house.
301
00:19:02,599 --> 00:19:04,810
Just coming in and storming us like that.
302
00:19:05,352 --> 00:19:07,855
I established cameras with censors.
303
00:19:07,938 --> 00:19:09,356
So if they're coming in,
304
00:19:09,815 --> 00:19:11,817
at least I know they're coming in.
305
00:19:11,900 --> 00:19:15,070
I can make some type of preparations.
Hold the door.
306
00:19:15,154 --> 00:19:18,740
I mean, they're just not coming in
unless they got warrants or whatever,
307
00:19:18,824 --> 00:19:20,576
but I'm not letting nobody in.
308
00:19:23,537 --> 00:19:26,039
We can put two plants here. Just two.
309
00:19:26,915 --> 00:19:28,542
And then I can plant my peas
310
00:19:29,751 --> 00:19:31,837
and one tomato in the middle.
311
00:19:33,172 --> 00:19:35,257
I think there might be some other drips.
312
00:19:36,425 --> 00:19:40,012
{\an8}When I met Cesar,
that was eight years ago.
313
00:19:40,095 --> 00:19:43,056
{\an8}I was working as a host
in a Mexican restaurant.
314
00:19:43,140 --> 00:19:45,893
He was one
of those pain-in-the-butt customers.
315
00:19:48,520 --> 00:19:49,354
What the heck?
316
00:19:49,438 --> 00:19:53,442
Every time he takes a to-go order,
he calls to complain.
317
00:19:55,152 --> 00:19:59,114
He was like, "Well, I used to do that
just to get to talk to you."
318
00:19:59,198 --> 00:20:01,366
After probably, like, five months,
319
00:20:01,450 --> 00:20:04,244
I'm like, "Okay,
I'm gonna give you a chance. Let's go."
320
00:20:04,745 --> 00:20:07,748
And two months later, we got married.
321
00:20:09,041 --> 00:20:11,543
"We married immediately.
I'm like, "Hey, baby,
322
00:20:11,627 --> 00:20:13,629
let me get your paperwork started."
323
00:20:14,213 --> 00:20:16,715
I never thought he was gonna get deported.
324
00:20:16,798 --> 00:20:19,885
I thought I was gonna be the oneto get deported,
325
00:20:20,260 --> 00:20:23,222
because he got papers. He was a resident.
326
00:20:24,139 --> 00:20:25,891
"And I told him,"
I'm not like that.
327
00:20:25,974 --> 00:20:27,893
I didn't marry you for your papers
328
00:20:28,727 --> 00:20:29,811
"or your money."
329
00:20:30,229 --> 00:20:32,731
I'm like, "You don't even have money."
330
00:20:32,856 --> 00:20:35,275
I'm like,
"But I didn't marry you for that."
331
00:20:35,359 --> 00:20:38,528
That went on for two years
until she finally decided to do it,
332
00:20:38,946 --> 00:20:41,573
- and then...
- Months later, he got deported.
333
00:20:43,075 --> 00:20:45,619
It was like, "Is this really..."
334
00:20:46,745 --> 00:20:48,372
It looks like a joke.
335
00:20:48,830 --> 00:20:52,042
"Like," All right,
now you wanna get your papers?
336
00:20:52,125 --> 00:20:54,378
Guess what. You're not gonna have it."
337
00:20:59,049 --> 00:21:01,134
When I first came back into the country,
338
00:21:01,218 --> 00:21:05,013
we decided that we wanted
to build a little safety net.
339
00:21:05,097 --> 00:21:07,849
And so in six years,
we have managed to buy a house.
340
00:21:07,933 --> 00:21:13,939
But because I'm undocumented now,
we are building on quicksand.
341
00:21:14,022 --> 00:21:16,024
That's what me and my wife are on
right now.
342
00:21:16,108 --> 00:21:17,567
We're building on quicksand,
343
00:21:17,985 --> 00:21:20,737
and at any moment, it could give away.
344
00:21:21,571 --> 00:21:24,616
This is our little patch of land, man.
345
00:21:24,700 --> 00:21:25,700
For now.
346
00:21:27,244 --> 00:21:30,622
By being undocumented, I lost everything.
347
00:21:30,706 --> 00:21:32,833
It's like,
"Where do you want me to start?"
348
00:21:32,916 --> 00:21:34,835
I cannot drive.
349
00:21:35,377 --> 00:21:37,087
I cannot go to the hospital.
350
00:21:37,713 --> 00:21:39,423
I can't get insurance.
351
00:21:39,506 --> 00:21:40,799
I cannot work.
352
00:21:41,091 --> 00:21:42,551
I cannot fly.
353
00:21:43,093 --> 00:21:45,470
I lost, uh...
354
00:21:46,138 --> 00:21:47,264
the freedom to live.
355
00:21:48,348 --> 00:21:51,184
He even lost his hair...
356
00:21:51,727 --> 00:21:54,438
thanks to all this.
Yeah, he changed a lot.
357
00:21:57,024 --> 00:21:58,692
He was a happy person.
358
00:22:01,820 --> 00:22:04,406
He tries to be. He tries to...
359
00:22:05,824 --> 00:22:07,993
keep all the funny in him,
360
00:22:08,410 --> 00:22:10,746
because that's how I met him.
361
00:22:11,246 --> 00:22:13,540
That's why I wanted to go with him.
362
00:22:14,499 --> 00:22:17,586
His personality, I know it's still there,
363
00:22:18,211 --> 00:22:21,256
but I know it's not gonna come out
until all this...
364
00:22:22,341 --> 00:22:23,341
is over.
365
00:22:25,218 --> 00:22:26,218
Just...
366
00:22:26,887 --> 00:22:30,349
to me, this is, like, unreal, you know?
It's like...
367
00:22:32,642 --> 00:22:37,564
It's like I'm looking at America
through a mirror or a window,
368
00:22:37,647 --> 00:22:40,901
because it's not the America I grew up in.
369
00:22:41,443 --> 00:22:46,281
- And you're not allowed...
- And I'm not allowed in it.
370
00:22:46,365 --> 00:22:48,825
Sorry. Your ticket has been expired.
371
00:22:53,288 --> 00:22:57,542
{\an8}I'm gonna come around in the front
and see if I can just stop this right now.
372
00:23:08,345 --> 00:23:10,263
- Tango or no?
- -No.
373
00:23:10,347 --> 00:23:11,181
No?
374
00:23:11,264 --> 00:23:14,226
That's not him. That's not our guy at all.
375
00:23:15,102 --> 00:23:16,311
- Run him.
- Yep.
376
00:23:16,395 --> 00:23:17,646
Ask him where he's from.
377
00:23:17,729 --> 00:23:18,814
- Who? The driver?
- Yep.
378
00:23:18,897 --> 00:23:19,897
Okay.
379
00:23:20,273 --> 00:23:22,633
Evidently, you rolled
through that stop sign on the way out.
380
00:23:23,276 --> 00:23:26,655
He's checking them out.
I just wanna know where... what country?
381
00:23:26,738 --> 00:23:28,824
- He's saying the US.
- Is he?
382
00:23:28,907 --> 00:23:30,242
- Yeah.
- Where you from?
383
00:23:30,659 --> 00:23:31,827
California.
384
00:23:32,411 --> 00:23:34,788
He's a USC.
Let's let him go quickly.
385
00:23:35,705 --> 00:23:37,791
Sorry about the inconvenience.
I really am. Okay?
386
00:23:37,874 --> 00:23:39,334
- Okay.
- Take care of yourself.
387
00:23:41,753 --> 00:23:42,879
All right, we're out.
388
00:23:44,714 --> 00:23:47,759
Regardless of this election,
389
00:23:47,843 --> 00:23:49,886
we're not gonna stop doing what we do.
390
00:23:49,970 --> 00:23:53,765
I understand it's not
the most popular thing in the world.
391
00:23:55,058 --> 00:23:59,146
We're gonna continue to do what we do
until somebody stops us from doing it.
392
00:24:04,484 --> 00:24:06,862
- Hey, how are you?
- Hi.
393
00:24:06,945 --> 00:24:08,665
We're out here today trying
to inform people
394
00:24:08,738 --> 00:24:10,157
there's a sheriff primary going on.
395
00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:13,535
So, what's the No 2...
396
00:24:13,618 --> 00:24:15,036
- 287?
- Yeah.
397
00:24:15,120 --> 00:24:18,248
The current sheriff has signed
an agreement with ICE
398
00:24:18,331 --> 00:24:22,127
that's responsible
for over 15,000 removals of individuals.
399
00:24:22,210 --> 00:24:24,254
Yes, first-generation immigrants.
400
00:24:24,337 --> 00:24:26,673
This is, like, one of our key issues
for us.
401
00:24:27,048 --> 00:24:29,801
Because our families are affected,
our friends are affected,
402
00:24:29,885 --> 00:24:32,637
and it's tough
to live in fear constantly, right?
403
00:24:32,721 --> 00:24:34,514
- Oh, yeah, yeah.
- Yeah.
404
00:24:34,598 --> 00:24:36,433
-It's been a melting pot over here,
-Mm-hmm.
405
00:24:36,516 --> 00:24:39,686
So, you know, we know lots of people
who have...
406
00:24:41,021 --> 00:24:42,022
these issues.
407
00:24:42,105 --> 00:24:43,940
- Yeah.
- So...
408
00:24:46,318 --> 00:24:47,694
A lot of my friends
409
00:24:47,986 --> 00:24:51,656
who I grew up with
lost family members due to 287.
410
00:24:52,157 --> 00:24:54,409
There was lots of ICE activity
in our city.
411
00:24:54,993 --> 00:24:57,180
I was the only person
with a driver's license in my neighborhood
412
00:24:57,204 --> 00:24:58,324
that could go pick up people
413
00:24:58,371 --> 00:25:02,417
who had their children
who were stuck at an ID check.
414
00:25:03,543 --> 00:25:07,172
So, I was there and got to witness people
with their families...
415
00:25:07,923 --> 00:25:12,844
on a two-way road getting put
into sheriff's office vans.
416
00:25:13,428 --> 00:25:15,597
I was given people's cars
with their children
417
00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:17,474
and told, "Please take them home."
418
00:25:17,557 --> 00:25:20,769
So I saw the risk and the fear.
419
00:25:23,146 --> 00:25:25,440
We decided we had to do something.
We couldn't stay still.
420
00:25:25,524 --> 00:25:27,359
We took a moment to realize
421
00:25:27,442 --> 00:25:30,320
what should we really focus on
and what was at stake.
422
00:25:30,403 --> 00:25:33,240
And we noticed that the 287 program
was something that
423
00:25:33,323 --> 00:25:36,076
it was here locally,
and we had power to do something about,
424
00:25:36,159 --> 00:25:38,304
especially because we knew
the elections were coming up.
425
00:25:38,328 --> 00:25:40,622
ICE out of Charlotte!
ICE out of Charlotte!
426
00:25:40,705 --> 00:25:43,625
ICE out of Charlotte!
ICE out of Charlotte!
427
00:25:43,708 --> 00:25:47,337
The race for Mecklenburg County
sheriff is quickly becoming a referendum
428
00:25:47,420 --> 00:25:49,965
on the controversial 287 program.
429
00:25:50,048 --> 00:25:51,591
I understand earlier this week
430
00:25:51,675 --> 00:25:54,469
{\an8}your county commissioners meeting
debated this program.
431
00:25:54,553 --> 00:25:56,263
{\an8}How frustrating is that for you?
432
00:25:56,346 --> 00:25:57,806
{\an8}Well, you know...
433
00:25:57,889 --> 00:26:01,434
{\an8}we've heard from city council,
county commissioners,
434
00:26:01,518 --> 00:26:05,730
{\an8}folks running for office
that they do not support this program.
435
00:26:05,855 --> 00:26:09,901
{\an8}This program is about safety and security
of our county.
436
00:26:10,443 --> 00:26:11,695
I saw the national news.
437
00:26:11,778 --> 00:26:14,072
Well, it truly is a referendum.
438
00:26:17,367 --> 00:26:20,495
The immigrant community here
has been very vocal.
439
00:26:20,870 --> 00:26:23,123
They make it known who they like,
440
00:26:23,206 --> 00:26:25,375
and they make it known who they dislike.
441
00:26:26,084 --> 00:26:27,627
They are tired,
442
00:26:27,711 --> 00:26:30,297
and they are letting
their voice be heard here.
443
00:26:30,839 --> 00:26:33,633
It's a factor. I mean, it's a factor.
444
00:26:33,717 --> 00:26:35,218
ICE out of Charlotte!
445
00:26:35,302 --> 00:26:37,554
The current administration
has publicly stated
446
00:26:37,637 --> 00:26:41,099
{\an8}that one of its priorities is an expansion
of 287.
447
00:26:41,808 --> 00:26:45,520
Obviously, local elections are
for local people to decide,
448
00:26:45,604 --> 00:26:48,356
"but our role is to say,"
All right,
449
00:26:49,065 --> 00:26:51,443
Sheriff, whomever you may be,
450
00:26:51,526 --> 00:26:52,902
if you are under the impression
451
00:26:52,986 --> 00:26:56,031
that not cooperating
with ICE will somehow result
452
00:26:56,114 --> 00:26:58,700
in less immigration enforcement
in your community,
453
00:26:58,783 --> 00:27:01,161
just be aware, that's not true.
454
00:27:01,244 --> 00:27:03,121
ICE will then have no choice
455
00:27:03,204 --> 00:27:05,540
"but to send more officers
into your community."
456
00:27:06,666 --> 00:27:10,295
But, you know, those jurisdictions
are gonna make their own decisions.
457
00:27:15,008 --> 00:27:17,010
Thank you all for being here tonight.
458
00:27:17,093 --> 00:27:19,638
We have some members here from ICE.
459
00:27:20,388 --> 00:27:23,642
The purpose of this meeting is to talk
about 287.
460
00:27:23,725 --> 00:27:28,021
I really appreciate that you're here,
that you're doing this training for us,
461
00:27:28,104 --> 00:27:30,190
because I've been very curious as to how
462
00:27:30,273 --> 00:27:34,611
and why the county even implemented
the 287 program.
463
00:27:35,070 --> 00:27:37,530
Bottom line is
the overwhelming majority
464
00:27:37,614 --> 00:27:40,200
of ICE encounters for the current year
465
00:27:40,450 --> 00:27:43,411
were pursuant to a criminal conviction
or a criminal arrest.
466
00:27:43,495 --> 00:27:46,414
Another thing that comes up quite a bit
is fear in the community.
467
00:27:46,498 --> 00:27:48,875
They think that if they call the police,
468
00:27:48,958 --> 00:27:51,753
they're gonna get arrested
because they are undocumented.
469
00:27:51,836 --> 00:27:54,798
Unless they themselves have committed
a criminal offense,
470
00:27:54,881 --> 00:27:56,299
they have nothing to worry about.
471
00:27:56,383 --> 00:28:01,096
My problem with all of this,
when we hear the word "criminal offense,"
472
00:28:01,179 --> 00:28:05,809
we're thinking Law & Order: SVU
or whatever,
473
00:28:05,892 --> 00:28:07,852
that they've done something horrendous.
474
00:28:07,936 --> 00:28:10,056
People are thinking felonies.
They're thinking murder.
475
00:28:10,105 --> 00:28:13,441
They're thinking major drug dealers.
They're not thinking broken taillight.
476
00:28:13,525 --> 00:28:14,525
You're right.
477
00:28:15,068 --> 00:28:17,112
"Criminal" is somewhat of a broad word
478
00:28:17,195 --> 00:28:21,658
that includes everything from murderer
to, you know...
479
00:28:21,741 --> 00:28:22,741
Jaywalking.
480
00:28:23,702 --> 00:28:25,745
So, there is a spectrum there.
481
00:28:25,829 --> 00:28:30,583
I would simply say our focus is on persons
who are in the country unlawfully
482
00:28:30,667 --> 00:28:33,169
who also commit criminal offenses.
483
00:28:33,253 --> 00:28:35,171
I do wanna compliment you as a PR person.
484
00:28:35,255 --> 00:28:37,590
You're really good
at fielding all of this stuff.
485
00:28:37,674 --> 00:28:39,426
I mean, you're pretty slick, because you...
486
00:28:39,509 --> 00:28:40,969
- I'm not slick.
- I'm just saying...
487
00:28:41,052 --> 00:28:43,155
It's a complex issue.
Part of my job is to explain it.
488
00:28:43,179 --> 00:28:45,259
It's very smooth,
which means you've done this a lot.
489
00:28:50,228 --> 00:28:52,188
As of public affairs person,
490
00:28:52,647 --> 00:28:55,650
where better to be
than where the action is?
491
00:28:55,734 --> 00:28:59,154
I mean, what issue are we dealing with
as a country right now
492
00:28:59,237 --> 00:29:02,615
that is more high-profile
than immigration?
493
00:29:04,534 --> 00:29:06,911
ICE is sworn
to enforce federal immigration law.
494
00:29:06,995 --> 00:29:10,582
So, this agency is going to do so
with or without local cooperation.
495
00:29:10,665 --> 00:29:12,876
So, I think 287 itself,
496
00:29:12,959 --> 00:29:16,463
you know, obviously it's a decision
of the local jurisdiction
497
00:29:16,546 --> 00:29:18,298
as to what they want to do.
498
00:29:18,381 --> 00:29:20,383
It is not our place
as federal law enforcement
499
00:29:20,467 --> 00:29:24,345
to tell a local municipality
what their local policies should be.
500
00:29:26,848 --> 00:29:29,517
This is a passionate issue
people feel strongly about,
501
00:29:29,601 --> 00:29:31,269
but that's understandable.
502
00:29:32,353 --> 00:29:35,565
I mean, my job is to explain to people
503
00:29:35,648 --> 00:29:37,984
what arguably
the most controversial agency
504
00:29:38,067 --> 00:29:39,694
in the federal government does.
505
00:29:44,365 --> 00:29:45,365
{\an8}Good morning.
506
00:29:45,825 --> 00:29:48,077
{\an8}Welcome and thank you for being here.
507
00:29:48,161 --> 00:29:50,580
So, what is the purpose of 287?
508
00:29:51,039 --> 00:29:53,082
Basically, at the end of the day,
the purpose is
509
00:29:53,166 --> 00:29:55,543
to enhance the safety and security
of communities.
510
00:29:57,420 --> 00:29:58,820
- You don't live here!
- Here's why.
511
00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:01,633
You're not from here!
You don't see our community!
512
00:30:01,716 --> 00:30:03,843
You know nothing about our community!
513
00:30:03,927 --> 00:30:07,514
And you sit up here
and give us this professional line.
514
00:30:07,597 --> 00:30:11,351
These people are in the classrooms.
We live next door to these people.
515
00:30:11,434 --> 00:30:14,437
Ma'am, if you're gonna make
a statement calling me a liar
516
00:30:14,521 --> 00:30:17,774
and stating that we are violating...
I'm not going to...
517
00:30:17,857 --> 00:30:19,234
Get out!
518
00:30:19,317 --> 00:30:21,277
Hold on. Let me talk.
519
00:30:22,028 --> 00:30:24,590
Basically, at the end of the day,
ICE is a law enforcement agency.
520
00:30:24,614 --> 00:30:26,801
Again, I'm a career official,
not a political appointee.
521
00:30:26,825 --> 00:30:27,825
Salesman!
522
00:30:28,117 --> 00:30:29,744
- Yeah!
- All right, well...
523
00:30:30,703 --> 00:30:33,703
you know, call me any names you like.
I'm still gonna give the presentation.
524
00:30:33,748 --> 00:30:35,875
So, since the program has been active,
525
00:30:35,959 --> 00:30:40,964
you've had less than 50 persons removed
from the United States as a result.
526
00:30:41,047 --> 00:30:42,465
- In Knox County?
- In Knox County.
527
00:30:42,549 --> 00:30:43,550
What about Morristown?
528
00:30:43,633 --> 00:30:46,261
How many of those 50 people
had children at home?
529
00:30:46,344 --> 00:30:47,554
I don't know.
530
00:30:47,637 --> 00:30:51,850
Why don't you know how many of
those people had children at home alone?
531
00:30:51,933 --> 00:30:52,851
I don't know...
532
00:30:52,934 --> 00:30:54,269
Why don't you know?
533
00:30:54,853 --> 00:30:57,063
I don't know
what color hair they had either.
534
00:30:57,146 --> 00:30:59,732
There are certain data points
I don't have.
535
00:30:59,816 --> 00:31:02,527
That's something that we can look at.
536
00:31:02,652 --> 00:31:04,195
No, sir!
537
00:31:04,279 --> 00:31:06,573
I know we have a lot of people
who wanted to talk.
538
00:31:06,656 --> 00:31:10,285
And so, let's go down the list,
and we'll turn it over.
539
00:31:11,870 --> 00:31:13,538
My name is Meghan Conley.
540
00:31:13,621 --> 00:31:15,832
I'm a professor
in the Department of Sociology
541
00:31:15,915 --> 00:31:17,417
at the University of Tennessee
542
00:31:17,500 --> 00:31:21,296
where I teach and write
about immigration politics and policies.
543
00:31:21,921 --> 00:31:24,674
Our data show that 90% of inmates
544
00:31:24,757 --> 00:31:29,596
with ICE holds in the Knox County jail
are arrested on misdemeanor offenses.
545
00:31:29,679 --> 00:31:30,679
Shame.
546
00:31:31,222 --> 00:31:34,767
Now, as far as I can tell,
ICE is an unaccountable organization.
547
00:31:34,851 --> 00:31:35,685
Say that!
548
00:31:35,768 --> 00:31:38,605
So, my question is for the sheriff
of Knox County.
549
00:31:39,606 --> 00:31:45,403
{\an8}How do you continue to justify
Knox County's participation in 287
550
00:31:45,486 --> 00:31:49,908
knowing that it leads to the separation
of families in our community
551
00:31:49,991 --> 00:31:52,660
predominantly through arrests
for minor offenses?
552
00:31:57,498 --> 00:31:59,584
Please use the microphone.
553
00:32:00,293 --> 00:32:01,294
I'm sorry.
554
00:32:01,377 --> 00:32:03,463
- Use the microphone.
- Microphone!
555
00:32:03,546 --> 00:32:04,773
I'll just as soon stand right here.
556
00:32:04,797 --> 00:32:07,634
- No...
- I can't hear you!
557
00:32:07,717 --> 00:32:11,679
- My son has hearing aids...
- This is a perfect forum...
558
00:32:13,473 --> 00:32:16,851
I think y'all should listen
because this program is here to stay.
559
00:32:17,310 --> 00:32:20,438
I'm getting exact numbers of the people
in our jail that are misdemeanors.
560
00:32:20,521 --> 00:32:25,568
There are certainly horror stories
that have come out from police agencies
561
00:32:25,652 --> 00:32:27,195
about ICE detainees,
562
00:32:27,278 --> 00:32:29,197
and I'm standing here telling you
563
00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:33,284
that the things you're talking about
are not happening in Knox County.
564
00:32:33,368 --> 00:32:38,373
It may be happening somewhere else,
but they're not happening here. Period.
565
00:32:38,456 --> 00:32:40,792
Her research is a lie? She made that up?
566
00:32:42,001 --> 00:32:44,921
I did not say she lied.
Research is research,
567
00:32:45,004 --> 00:32:48,508
and we all know what research is.
You can make it any way you want It.
568
00:32:48,591 --> 00:32:51,970
- Fuck you! Fuck you!
- I can stand here...
569
00:32:52,053 --> 00:32:54,973
- I can stand here and tell you...
- Shame!
570
00:32:55,056 --> 00:32:57,225
You're getting ready to leave.
571
00:32:57,308 --> 00:33:00,478
If you say one more profanity,
I will take you out myself.
572
00:33:00,561 --> 00:33:03,731
- Shame!
- Anybody...
573
00:33:03,815 --> 00:33:08,403
- Anybody can use the numbers...
- JJ is making you look bad, ICE.
574
00:33:08,486 --> 00:33:10,738
He's making you look bad.
575
00:33:10,822 --> 00:33:14,367
Thank you very much. Our hour is up.
I wanna thank you all for coming.
576
00:33:14,450 --> 00:33:17,495
- If you have any further questions...
- We're not leaving!
577
00:33:17,954 --> 00:33:20,498
That's up. We are done. Thank you.
578
00:33:21,582 --> 00:33:25,420
There should be no apology
that we maintain vigilance
579
00:33:25,503 --> 00:33:27,296
and take this seriously.
580
00:33:27,380 --> 00:33:31,217
Our job is to, bottom line,
protect the public.
581
00:33:40,226 --> 00:33:43,021
Every individual who comes
into the United States unlawfully...
582
00:33:43,771 --> 00:33:45,440
could be detained.
583
00:33:45,523 --> 00:33:48,609
Under the law, absolutely,
ICE could make the initial decision
584
00:33:48,693 --> 00:33:50,013
to say, "We're gonna detain you."
585
00:33:51,821 --> 00:33:55,033
ICE operates a national network
of detention facilities
586
00:33:55,116 --> 00:33:56,367
all across the country
587
00:33:56,451 --> 00:34:00,455
with a total capacity of about 50,000 beds
on any given day.
588
00:34:18,514 --> 00:34:20,558
I've been covering immigration
for a decade.
589
00:34:20,641 --> 00:34:24,896
The last couple of years,
our collective focus has been
590
00:34:24,979 --> 00:34:28,608
{\an8}on these border patrol facilities,
on the conditions inside of them.
591
00:34:28,733 --> 00:34:32,653
{\an8}But I felt it was important
to show to everybody that,
592
00:34:32,737 --> 00:34:37,116
"Hey, those are temporary facilities.
ICE is where they end up long-term."
593
00:34:39,535 --> 00:34:44,165
{\an8}This facility is a detention center.
It's not a prison. It's not a jail.
594
00:34:44,290 --> 00:34:47,335
{\an8}In this facility,
the persons that are detained,
595
00:34:47,418 --> 00:34:50,338
{\an8}they're undergoing
an administrative immigration process.
596
00:34:50,630 --> 00:34:52,632
So, there are no sentences here.
597
00:34:52,715 --> 00:34:57,720
No one is being punished in the sense
from a sentencing perspective.
598
00:34:58,012 --> 00:35:00,890
They're here to await
either removal to their country,
599
00:35:00,973 --> 00:35:02,767
or they're here
to see an immigration judge
600
00:35:02,850 --> 00:35:06,145
who will determine
if they could be released,
601
00:35:06,229 --> 00:35:07,855
or they could be removed.
602
00:35:09,816 --> 00:35:11,692
There's at least 220 facilities.
603
00:35:12,110 --> 00:35:15,696
They're all around the country.
They're spread out in 47 states.
604
00:35:15,780 --> 00:35:17,865
Of all this sprawling network
that ICE has,
605
00:35:17,949 --> 00:35:19,909
they only own and operate five of them.
606
00:35:19,992 --> 00:35:23,162
This much broader network are run
by private companies.
607
00:35:27,250 --> 00:35:30,128
There's money in almost every aspect
of immigration detention.
608
00:35:30,670 --> 00:35:35,174
First, ICE pays for each person
that you detain for each day.
609
00:35:35,258 --> 00:35:39,804
Those detainees in turn then pay
to use the telephone
610
00:35:39,887 --> 00:35:42,974
for what can be these incredibly expensive
phone calls and video chats
611
00:35:43,057 --> 00:35:44,433
with their families.
612
00:35:44,517 --> 00:35:47,186
If they want something
that's not handed out in the cafeteria,
613
00:35:47,270 --> 00:35:50,439
they have to pay money
to use the commissary,
614
00:35:50,648 --> 00:35:54,152
and they're allowed
to voluntarily sign up to work.
615
00:35:56,654 --> 00:36:01,033
Detainees that do the work
get paid a dollar a day.
616
00:36:01,492 --> 00:36:03,119
You can't do double shifts.
617
00:36:03,202 --> 00:36:05,621
You can't do 16 hours for $2.
618
00:36:05,705 --> 00:36:08,249
It's one shift a day.
You get paid a dollar.
619
00:36:12,253 --> 00:36:15,590
The idea of using private
companies to run ICE detention centers
620
00:36:15,673 --> 00:36:17,175
is not something new,
621
00:36:17,592 --> 00:36:21,012
but it really exploded
under this administration.
622
00:36:22,889 --> 00:36:25,183
This has been big, big business for them.
623
00:36:26,058 --> 00:36:27,185
Right after the election,
624
00:36:27,268 --> 00:36:32,899
we saw the stock prices of the GEO Group
and CoreCivic literally double overnight.
625
00:36:32,982 --> 00:36:36,903
The for-profit prison industry
is making a killing in the Trump era.
626
00:36:36,986 --> 00:36:39,614
- Invest every cent you have in them.
- No, don't.
627
00:36:39,697 --> 00:36:41,532
Because they are having a field day.
628
00:36:41,616 --> 00:36:43,659
I try and look away
from the morality of it,
629
00:36:43,743 --> 00:36:45,828
because it's just a necessary evil,
630
00:36:45,912 --> 00:36:49,832
and it's a necessary evil I like having
as part of my portfolio.
631
00:36:50,249 --> 00:36:51,792
They call themselves private prisons,
632
00:36:51,876 --> 00:36:55,254
but they are privately run,
publicly financed.
633
00:36:55,338 --> 00:36:59,717
It is our taxpayer money
that goes to these very corporations
634
00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:03,721
that push for policies
that incarcerate us.
635
00:37:04,305 --> 00:37:07,516
Their client is ICE. The detainees...
636
00:37:08,851 --> 00:37:11,312
they're more... the product.
637
00:37:12,730 --> 00:37:14,815
I know
that sounds incredibly dehumanizing,
638
00:37:14,899 --> 00:37:16,984
but immigrants for them mean money.
639
00:37:19,445 --> 00:37:22,823
You're talking about the treatment
of tens of thousands of people.
640
00:37:23,366 --> 00:37:26,869
Two-thirds of those have
zero criminal record
641
00:37:26,953 --> 00:37:28,871
other than their immigration violations.
642
00:37:42,343 --> 00:37:45,680
{\an8}Right now, I am such a good driver
643
00:37:45,763 --> 00:37:48,766
that I could be
a teenage driving instructor.
644
00:37:49,350 --> 00:37:53,145
I follow all my turn signals,
645
00:37:53,396 --> 00:37:56,440
all my laws, speed limits.
646
00:37:57,400 --> 00:38:02,571
I am one of the best drivers there is.
647
00:38:03,114 --> 00:38:05,449
It's all because I gotta watch myself.
648
00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:10,454
A lot of people have been deported
because of traffic tickets, man.
649
00:38:11,455 --> 00:38:12,455
So...
650
00:38:13,207 --> 00:38:17,044
those are the big, MS-13 criminals,
651
00:38:17,712 --> 00:38:18,712
speeding.
652
00:38:20,923 --> 00:38:23,134
They've been doing a lot of raids here
653
00:38:23,718 --> 00:38:25,720
from after Trump took office,
654
00:38:26,137 --> 00:38:27,972
and they go to raid
655
00:38:29,056 --> 00:38:33,644
in the Hispanic sides of town,
you know, so...
656
00:38:33,728 --> 00:38:36,522
But that's one thing
my people don't understand.
657
00:38:36,647 --> 00:38:40,776
Don't conglomerate where they're gonna be
coming to get you, but...
658
00:38:41,944 --> 00:38:45,948
So me myself, I hide in plain sight
in a white neighborhood.
659
00:38:51,162 --> 00:38:54,373
I'm the only military person in my family,
660
00:38:54,957 --> 00:38:59,003
and I believe in America 100%.
I believe in the Constitution.
661
00:38:59,712 --> 00:39:01,839
Even though
I'm breaking the law right now,
662
00:39:01,922 --> 00:39:03,716
I do believe in the law.
663
00:39:04,175 --> 00:39:07,303
But also, I believe
that the law has gotta be just.
664
00:39:07,386 --> 00:39:11,974
Thomas Jefferson said,
"When injustice becomes law,
665
00:39:12,641 --> 00:39:16,312
resistance becomes duty."
666
00:39:16,854 --> 00:39:19,357
So, that's the way I see it.
I'm a patriot,
667
00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:21,734
even though I had to break the law
to come back home.
668
00:39:21,817 --> 00:39:23,319
Somebody had to ring the bell,
669
00:39:23,736 --> 00:39:25,071
and I did that.
670
00:39:27,323 --> 00:39:31,077
This is the video I made
the day I came back to the US.
671
00:39:33,954 --> 00:39:36,499
Okay, so this is...
672
00:39:36,624 --> 00:39:40,920
{\an8}This is the moment where I'm gonna be
crossing back into the US.
673
00:39:41,253 --> 00:39:43,005
{\an8}I'm coming home.
674
00:39:43,089 --> 00:39:47,760
Sorry, guys, but... fuck you.
You can't fucking send me out of my house.
675
00:39:47,843 --> 00:39:51,472
So, that over there, that's TJ.
I don't know if you guys can see it.
676
00:39:51,555 --> 00:39:53,766
That's all Tecate, all that.
677
00:39:54,350 --> 00:39:57,103
I'm going through here,
and I'm going up the mountain.
678
00:39:57,186 --> 00:39:59,397
So, hopefully,
everything will be all right,
679
00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:01,774
and I'll be home soon, baby.
I love you. Bye.
680
00:40:16,247 --> 00:40:18,958
The first year I came back
across the border,
681
00:40:19,458 --> 00:40:22,169
I was completely useless.
682
00:40:22,253 --> 00:40:27,758
I mean, in the sense that I was terrified
to even just go out to the store.
683
00:40:28,592 --> 00:40:31,470
The year after that, I was tired.
684
00:40:31,554 --> 00:40:34,515
I'm like, "No, all of us gotta come home."
685
00:40:34,974 --> 00:40:39,395
{\an8}There's over 500 to 1,000 military
deported all over the world.
686
00:40:39,728 --> 00:40:42,398
{\an8}And we shed our blood for this country.
687
00:40:42,481 --> 00:40:45,901
{\an8}We shed red blood for all Americans.
688
00:40:45,985 --> 00:40:47,903
Honor us now. Bring us home.
689
00:40:48,237 --> 00:40:49,155
Without Cesar,
690
00:40:49,238 --> 00:40:54,368
we wouldn't have the ability
to have our presence in Washington, DC.
691
00:40:54,452 --> 00:40:55,786
{\an8}And that's really what we need.
692
00:40:55,870 --> 00:40:58,372
{\an8}We need our congressmen and senators
to wake the fuck up.
693
00:40:58,789 --> 00:41:01,292
We're gonna go about
who are our best targets.
694
00:41:01,375 --> 00:41:05,963
I already have a list of congressmen
that I already see a soft-meet.
695
00:41:06,839 --> 00:41:08,799
And out of all the ruckus I did,
696
00:41:08,883 --> 00:41:14,763
Miss Michelle Lujan, she found out
that we were doing this around Congress,
697
00:41:14,847 --> 00:41:16,974
and she invited us to come over.
698
00:41:17,057 --> 00:41:21,479
{\an8}They willingly put their own lives
on the line
699
00:41:21,562 --> 00:41:23,856
{\an8}and served this country.
I have a real problem with that.
700
00:41:23,939 --> 00:41:27,109
{\an8}Congresswoman Michelle Lujan
Grisham wants to change that.
701
00:41:27,776 --> 00:41:31,780
Now, Ms. Lujan is running
for governor of New Mexico.
702
00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:35,367
This is my opportunity
to get straight again.
703
00:41:35,451 --> 00:41:37,411
If she gives me a pardon,
704
00:41:37,495 --> 00:41:41,916
it's my way to get back home legally, man,
and finally be able to put this behind me.
705
00:41:58,140 --> 00:41:59,140
Hey, babe.
706
00:42:01,018 --> 00:42:03,229
- They found a way in.
- Hey, guys.
707
00:42:05,356 --> 00:42:08,567
We need to go to New Mexico
to talk to the governor.
708
00:42:08,984 --> 00:42:12,196
- After the election.
- Yes, Mama, the election's tomorrow.
709
00:42:13,030 --> 00:42:14,365
Okay. That's true.
710
00:42:17,618 --> 00:42:19,995
Enchiladas and tacos.
711
00:42:22,248 --> 00:42:24,208
If they're really willing to help out,
712
00:42:24,291 --> 00:42:28,837
hopefully, we can convince her
to give us a pardon
713
00:42:28,921 --> 00:42:32,383
at the beginning of her governorship.
714
00:42:32,466 --> 00:42:34,301
Pardoning a veteran,
715
00:42:34,718 --> 00:42:39,139
I think, would be a positive note
to start her tenure as governor.
716
00:42:40,391 --> 00:42:42,560
The amazing thing to me is
717
00:42:42,643 --> 00:42:46,814
that one signature, just a signature,
can give me my life back.
718
00:42:47,523 --> 00:42:50,526
- It can go back...
- One person can give me my life back.
719
00:42:50,609 --> 00:42:52,069
You can go back to work.
720
00:42:53,070 --> 00:42:54,238
And we can have babies.
721
00:42:54,321 --> 00:42:55,823
And we can have babies, Mama.
722
00:42:55,906 --> 00:42:58,146
That's one of the reasons
that we haven't had the babies,
723
00:42:58,200 --> 00:43:00,411
because we're not gonna have a baby
on the run.
724
00:43:00,494 --> 00:43:03,163
I refuse to have a child on...
725
00:43:03,247 --> 00:43:05,541
being a fugitive.
726
00:43:07,001 --> 00:43:09,461
I know, but we're running out of time.
727
00:43:09,545 --> 00:43:11,422
I know, Mama, we're running out of time,
728
00:43:11,505 --> 00:43:15,050
but I'm not gonna
raise a child on the run.
729
00:43:15,134 --> 00:43:18,887
- I'm just not. I refuse to do that.
- I know.
730
00:43:26,770 --> 00:43:28,772
Here. Do you want crust?
731
00:43:29,857 --> 00:43:32,484
- Of course. Crust is great.
- Here, have the whole thing.
732
00:43:33,485 --> 00:43:36,739
I still think
that since Trump getting in power,
733
00:43:36,822 --> 00:43:41,035
on me, he has tried
to cancel every single program...
734
00:43:41,118 --> 00:43:43,454
- Yeah.
- That is working for immigrants.
735
00:43:43,537 --> 00:43:47,124
He would like to have just a red button
just to delete them.
736
00:43:47,207 --> 00:43:51,003
Just to delete all of us at once.
737
00:43:51,086 --> 00:43:53,339
Oh, yeah, if he could just circle
everybody and just...
738
00:43:53,839 --> 00:43:55,466
- Yeah.
- Yeah, no, I could see that.
739
00:43:55,549 --> 00:43:58,677
Mija, how many years we have beencovered for TPS?
740
00:44:00,429 --> 00:44:04,141
My parents, my brother,
in fact, as well, are protected
741
00:44:04,224 --> 00:44:05,643
under Temporary Protected Status.
742
00:44:05,726 --> 00:44:08,729
My cousins, my aunts,
we're all TPS holders.
743
00:44:10,689 --> 00:44:14,276
Trump has recently rescinded TPS
for Salvadorans.
744
00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:17,780
So my family's situation currently lies
in limbo.
745
00:44:18,739 --> 00:44:22,660
I have my family members who will
at one point be at risk for deportation.
746
00:44:24,995 --> 00:44:26,538
Ever since I can remember,
747
00:44:26,622 --> 00:44:30,250
my parents instilled in me
that just one screw up...
748
00:44:31,251 --> 00:44:35,130
one tiny little thing can land you
right back to El Salvador.
749
00:44:35,214 --> 00:44:37,383
You have to be twice as good. Literally.
750
00:44:37,466 --> 00:44:40,928
It just takes one mistake
to boot us out, so...
751
00:44:45,933 --> 00:44:49,603
We know that this is our chance
and our opportunity
752
00:44:49,687 --> 00:44:51,355
to challenge the sheriff's office
753
00:44:51,438 --> 00:44:55,567
that has never been truly challenged
the way that it needs to be.
754
00:44:56,068 --> 00:44:58,195
We know what our end goal is,
755
00:44:58,529 --> 00:45:00,906
and we don't know
if we're gonna necessarily get there,
756
00:45:00,989 --> 00:45:04,243
but people are starting to take notice.
So, um...
757
00:45:04,952 --> 00:45:05,952
we'll see.
758
00:45:17,715 --> 00:45:18,715
How you doing, guys?
759
00:45:18,757 --> 00:45:21,343
Yeah. Vote for a progressive candidate
for sheriff.
760
00:45:21,427 --> 00:45:22,928
We don't want Carmichael in there,
761
00:45:23,011 --> 00:45:24,851
so make sure you vote
for a progressive person.
762
00:45:24,930 --> 00:45:29,810
Garry McFadden is the best choice.
We need a change. We need a change.
763
00:45:35,357 --> 00:45:36,357
That's Carmichael.
764
00:45:38,652 --> 00:45:39,652
Just touch it.
765
00:45:40,112 --> 00:45:42,865
Just touch it? I got you.
766
00:45:43,407 --> 00:45:46,618
Keep it up. Keep up the great work.
I appreciate you.
767
00:45:50,038 --> 00:45:54,376
{\an8}I've got students who are undocumented,
and their moms and dads are undocumented.
768
00:45:54,460 --> 00:45:55,502
If they get pulled over,
769
00:45:55,586 --> 00:45:59,131
and then this program is
what takes them away from their families,
770
00:45:59,214 --> 00:46:01,175
- that's not good.
- Right, and I agree.
771
00:46:01,592 --> 00:46:03,761
And we shouldn't be getting rid
of folks who...
772
00:46:03,844 --> 00:46:07,014
- No, I totally agree. Absolutely.
- I mean, we got some amazing families.
773
00:46:07,097 --> 00:46:09,308
Can they get a driver's license
in North Carolina?
774
00:46:09,391 --> 00:46:10,768
No, you cannot.
775
00:46:10,851 --> 00:46:13,353
Garry McFadden, 56%.
776
00:46:13,437 --> 00:46:17,357
So if there's one thing you've learned
from this campaign season with 287,
777
00:46:17,441 --> 00:46:19,586
- what do you think it is?
- Irwin Carmichael, last place!
778
00:46:19,610 --> 00:46:21,069
I doubt it!
779
00:46:22,029 --> 00:46:24,531
- I doubt it.
- Right here. Via We Election.
780
00:46:24,615 --> 00:46:25,699
Really? Already?
781
00:46:25,783 --> 00:46:28,118
- Already, early vote totals.
- How do you have that?
782
00:46:29,328 --> 00:46:31,205
Where? Where does it say?
783
00:46:31,288 --> 00:46:32,414
Right there.
784
00:46:32,498 --> 00:46:33,540
Wow!
785
00:46:34,082 --> 00:46:37,169
57% for Garry McFadden?
786
00:46:37,252 --> 00:46:39,338
Aw, nice! Nice.
787
00:46:39,838 --> 00:46:42,841
- That's interesting.
- Yeah, that is. That is.
788
00:46:42,925 --> 00:46:47,304
But I feel you.
I feel sorry for you actually sometimes.
789
00:46:47,387 --> 00:46:49,616
- I'm looking around, and I'm like...
- You see how... yeah.
790
00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:53,101
I mean, I get it, yeah.
But I also... I hear them.
791
00:47:14,373 --> 00:47:17,668
Democrat Michelle Lujan
Grisham with a nine-point lead
792
00:47:17,751 --> 00:47:20,003
over Republican opponent, Steve Pearce.
793
00:47:20,087 --> 00:47:22,407
She's got a comfortable lead,
but the night is still young,
794
00:47:22,464 --> 00:47:24,508
and this one is too early to call.
795
00:47:24,591 --> 00:47:28,846
The one that I'm watching today is
the governor of New Mexico.
796
00:47:28,929 --> 00:47:29,763
Okay.
797
00:47:29,847 --> 00:47:32,391
I contacted her, and I told her,
798
00:47:32,474 --> 00:47:35,978
"if you win the the governorship,
I need you to pardon me."
799
00:47:36,645 --> 00:47:38,105
Me not being able to vote,
800
00:47:38,188 --> 00:47:42,192
now, I really know and understand
the true power of voting.
801
00:47:44,403 --> 00:47:49,992
Garry! Garry! Garry!
Garry! Garry! Garry!
802
00:47:50,075 --> 00:47:55,539
Garry! Garry! Garry! Garry! Garry! Garry!
803
00:48:02,462 --> 00:48:04,464
Okay, so now, let me tell you.
804
00:48:04,548 --> 00:48:08,468
History has been made.
805
00:48:09,720 --> 00:48:12,389
- I want to introduce to you...
- Garry!
806
00:48:16,393 --> 00:48:21,398
Your next and my next sheriff
of Mecklenburg County.
807
00:48:24,693 --> 00:48:27,321
What's next? 287...
808
00:48:27,404 --> 00:48:29,323
- It's gone.
- Say it. Say it!
809
00:48:29,406 --> 00:48:33,619
287 is going to be history
in Charlotte-Mecklenburg.
810
00:48:35,787 --> 00:48:38,790
- I got to burn something, right?
- Oh, my God!
811
00:48:38,874 --> 00:48:41,501
Yes, yes, yes!
812
00:48:45,672 --> 00:48:49,259
Yeah, that's the one I need!
813
00:48:49,343 --> 00:48:54,348
This is a state that's ready to lead
in so many ways.
814
00:48:54,431 --> 00:48:56,892
I gotta fucking push, push, push, push.
815
00:48:57,309 --> 00:48:59,686
Everything that I've already done...
816
00:48:59,770 --> 00:49:02,230
this is when we go for it right now.
817
00:49:03,231 --> 00:49:06,151
Yeah, in 2020,
we bring everybody back, Miguel,
818
00:49:06,234 --> 00:49:08,111
like the way we talked about it.
819
00:49:09,237 --> 00:49:12,115
I'm gonna be going to New Mexico.
820
00:49:12,199 --> 00:49:15,535
I'm gonna be driving over there
to remind her and to tell her,
821
00:49:15,619 --> 00:49:18,997
"What else do you need from me?
I got all the paperwork filled out."
822
00:49:22,751 --> 00:49:24,920
- You better be careful.
- I will.
823
00:49:28,548 --> 00:49:29,841
I'll be back home, Mama.
824
00:49:35,889 --> 00:49:38,433
- I love you.
- I love you more, though.
825
00:49:52,322 --> 00:49:54,449
I've been doing this for about five years,
826
00:49:54,533 --> 00:49:57,369
and one thing I know is
that politicians are really good
827
00:49:57,452 --> 00:50:01,707
at listening and telling you
that they're willing to help,
828
00:50:02,874 --> 00:50:05,419
but they got very...
829
00:50:06,795 --> 00:50:08,380
very short memories.
830
00:50:12,009 --> 00:50:14,970
And even though it's dangerous
for me to be traveling,
831
00:50:16,263 --> 00:50:17,389
it has to be done.
832
00:50:20,642 --> 00:50:22,102
I lost my compass
833
00:50:22,185 --> 00:50:25,856
because I don't have nothing
to guide me anymore.
834
00:50:25,939 --> 00:50:27,899
I'm out of options. This is it.
835
00:50:30,527 --> 00:50:33,113
The governor in New Mexico is
my last shot.
836
00:50:45,667 --> 00:50:48,795
I get so nervous putting on my uniform.
837
00:50:53,300 --> 00:50:54,676
I love being a Marine.
838
00:50:59,806 --> 00:51:01,475
We're a different kind of people.
839
00:51:04,603 --> 00:51:06,396
I meet Marines on the street,
840
00:51:06,646 --> 00:51:10,442
and we hug each other,
and we just laugh, and we...
841
00:51:10,525 --> 00:51:12,235
My wife is like, "Do you know 'em?"
842
00:51:12,319 --> 00:51:14,362
I'm like, "Yeah, they're Marines."
843
00:51:23,580 --> 00:51:26,249
Not bad. I can still fit after 15 years.
844
00:51:30,128 --> 00:51:31,128
Thank you...
845
00:51:36,426 --> 00:51:39,429
Thank you, Father, for another day.
846
00:51:41,431 --> 00:51:44,267
Thank you for protecting me.
Thank you for protecting my wife.
847
00:51:44,601 --> 00:51:47,187
Thank you for taking care of my family
and my brothers.
848
00:51:48,939 --> 00:51:53,693
Please continue to protect us
on this journey to the...
849
00:51:54,611 --> 00:51:56,363
To what we believe to be right.
850
00:51:58,406 --> 00:52:02,160
I know that
we will always come home eventually,
851
00:52:03,036 --> 00:52:05,122
but we want to come back home alive.
852
00:52:06,081 --> 00:52:08,625
Please, Lord,
make this happen in our lifetime.
853
00:52:10,710 --> 00:52:11,710
Amen.
854
00:52:14,422 --> 00:52:18,009
We're asking the governor
to pardon deported veterans
855
00:52:18,093 --> 00:52:20,762
that have been convicted of state crimes
here in New Mexico.
856
00:52:20,846 --> 00:52:23,014
- Understood.
- I am one of those veterans
857
00:52:23,098 --> 00:52:24,850
that have been convicted here.
858
00:52:24,933 --> 00:52:27,018
- And Dominic has the file?
- Yes, he does.
859
00:52:30,147 --> 00:52:32,274
- Okay.
- And since I live in Las Vegas...
860
00:52:32,357 --> 00:52:34,943
- Sure.
- And I'm still undocumented,
861
00:52:35,026 --> 00:52:37,863
I'm risking federal imprisonment.
862
00:52:37,946 --> 00:52:39,030
Let me pull Dominic out.
863
00:52:39,114 --> 00:52:41,700
I didn't know Dominic actually had
the paperwork on this.
864
00:52:41,783 --> 00:52:45,328
Let me go back and visit with Dominic
in a little while. We'll go from there.
865
00:52:45,412 --> 00:52:47,181
- Gentlemen, thank you for your service.
- Thank you. We appreciate it.
866
00:52:47,205 --> 00:52:49,583
- Thank you, sir. We appreciate that.
- Thank you very much.
867
00:52:49,666 --> 00:52:52,419
{\an8}When you're speaking to her,
stick to the script.
868
00:52:52,502 --> 00:52:55,547
{\an8}Don't go too far out.
Don't go too far out.
869
00:52:56,423 --> 00:52:59,467
{\an8}Try and stay as organized
and direct as possible,
870
00:52:59,551 --> 00:53:02,137
because again,
she might only give you five minutes, bro.
871
00:53:02,220 --> 00:53:03,805
- She's busy.
- Yeah.
872
00:53:03,889 --> 00:53:07,049
- I'll get my point across in 30 seconds.
- Get your point across in 30 seconds,
873
00:53:07,100 --> 00:53:09,144
get a few answers
by the second or third minute,
874
00:53:09,853 --> 00:53:11,855
and then we'll go from there, all right?
875
00:53:13,440 --> 00:53:15,817
Our fallen heroes on the wall.
876
00:53:15,901 --> 00:53:20,488
It's a tribute to those
that have courageously given their lives
877
00:53:20,780 --> 00:53:24,159
to protect the freedoms
that we know today.
878
00:53:24,242 --> 00:53:27,287
Honorary servicemen.
879
00:53:27,370 --> 00:53:28,413
Enjoy your visit.
880
00:53:32,542 --> 00:53:35,128
If she says she can't
see you or won't see you,
881
00:53:35,921 --> 00:53:37,339
what do you plan to do?
882
00:53:37,923 --> 00:53:40,258
Try to get an appointment to come back.
883
00:53:41,635 --> 00:53:43,470
And if they don't give you an appointment?
884
00:53:43,553 --> 00:53:45,347
Then I'm gonna be coming back.
885
00:53:46,348 --> 00:53:47,974
- Get kicked out.
- Hmm?
886
00:53:48,058 --> 00:53:49,643
- Get kicked out.
- Mm-hmm.
887
00:53:49,726 --> 00:53:51,978
- Get security to come get you out.
- Mm-hmm.
888
00:53:52,062 --> 00:53:53,146
It's gonna look really bad.
889
00:53:53,230 --> 00:53:55,815
Get the banner, open it up,
get kicked out.
890
00:53:56,024 --> 00:53:58,193
Okay. Let's do it.
891
00:53:58,818 --> 00:54:00,904
And I'll record it.
You can get press and everything.
892
00:54:00,987 --> 00:54:01,987
You know it.
893
00:54:02,155 --> 00:54:05,450
- Make sure you call my lawyer.
- No.
894
00:54:05,533 --> 00:54:07,869
Okay, gentlemen, the plan is
895
00:54:07,953 --> 00:54:10,372
{\an8}we're not leaving this building
without an answer.
896
00:54:11,248 --> 00:54:14,751
{\an8}So, I'm not moving
until she gives me an answer.
897
00:54:14,834 --> 00:54:18,672
But since I first made you aware
of the issue, three men have died.
898
00:54:18,755 --> 00:54:21,049
How many more before you listen?
899
00:54:34,062 --> 00:54:35,248
- Cesar.
- I'm Claudia Tristán,
900
00:54:35,272 --> 00:54:36,648
press secretary for the governor.
901
00:54:36,731 --> 00:54:39,401
I'm sorry for the wait.
I've been trying to get answers for you.
902
00:54:39,484 --> 00:54:40,944
Everyone's been stuck in a meeting.
903
00:54:41,027 --> 00:54:43,827
Is there gonna be a chance for me
to speak with the governor in person?
904
00:54:43,863 --> 00:54:46,241
The governor is definitely way too busy.
905
00:54:46,324 --> 00:54:49,411
I gave you business card earlier.
I had Chris give it to you.
906
00:54:50,745 --> 00:54:51,955
So, here's my business card.
907
00:54:52,038 --> 00:54:55,333
And this is where we can request
for more meetings with the governor.
908
00:54:55,417 --> 00:54:57,544
But today, I mean,
she's got a busy schedule.
909
00:54:57,627 --> 00:55:00,347
- If you talked with our transition team...
- I sent emails to Dominic.
910
00:55:00,380 --> 00:55:02,465
Dominic says he has your file.
That's for sure.
911
00:55:02,549 --> 00:55:04,469
We do have your file
and are looking at the case.
912
00:55:04,509 --> 00:55:06,011
I never received any answer.
913
00:55:06,344 --> 00:55:08,346
I called, no answers.
914
00:55:08,430 --> 00:55:10,557
Can we get an appointment
to speak with the governor?
915
00:55:10,640 --> 00:55:12,827
Yeah, you can email me,
and we can go ahead and do that.
916
00:55:12,851 --> 00:55:16,229
- I'll check with our scheduler...
- Can you get me an appointment?
917
00:55:16,313 --> 00:55:19,399
I don't have that access on my phone.
I'm not the scheduler for the governor.
918
00:55:19,482 --> 00:55:20,942
Can we talk to the scheduler?
919
00:55:21,026 --> 00:55:24,029
The scheduler actually just walked out
with the governor as well, so...
920
00:55:24,112 --> 00:55:25,822
I've been undocumented for six years,
921
00:55:25,905 --> 00:55:27,699
fighting, going back and forth
to Congress,
922
00:55:27,782 --> 00:55:29,659
and they don't listen.
923
00:55:29,743 --> 00:55:33,163
And the governor,
when she was in Congress,
924
00:55:33,246 --> 00:55:35,915
she said she wanted to help us,
and that's why I came.
925
00:55:35,999 --> 00:55:38,126
She already said she wanted to help us.
926
00:55:38,209 --> 00:55:39,210
Help us.
927
00:55:39,919 --> 00:55:43,006
Quit talking about it.
You can save my life.
928
00:55:43,840 --> 00:55:47,135
She is my political Marine right now,
and I'm wounded.
929
00:55:47,218 --> 00:55:50,930
I've been wounded for six years,
alone, in the dark,
930
00:55:51,014 --> 00:55:52,932
screaming about this issue,
931
00:55:53,016 --> 00:55:54,225
but I'm tired.
932
00:55:54,809 --> 00:55:56,353
I'm tired,
933
00:55:56,770 --> 00:56:00,315
and I'm tired
of the politicians not listening to us.
934
00:56:01,066 --> 00:56:04,611
How can they do this to us?
We were willing to give our lives.
935
00:56:04,694 --> 00:56:06,738
I would have given my life
for you right now.
936
00:56:06,821 --> 00:56:09,991
I would stand in front of a bullet
for anyone here.
937
00:56:10,909 --> 00:56:13,370
All I ask is for her to say,
"You know what?"
938
00:56:13,453 --> 00:56:18,333
You guys are worth it.
You guys are Marines, are Army.
939
00:56:18,416 --> 00:56:22,379
"You should have never been deported.
This should have never happened."
940
00:56:22,462 --> 00:56:26,216
This is a tear
in the American fabric of our society,
941
00:56:26,299 --> 00:56:27,884
and we need to mend it.
942
00:56:27,967 --> 00:56:30,595
And we need to mend it with actions,
not words.
943
00:56:31,012 --> 00:56:32,138
We need to do it now.
944
00:56:32,889 --> 00:56:35,016
Save me, please.
945
00:56:36,434 --> 00:56:38,353
I want to come home legally.
946
00:56:39,354 --> 00:56:43,400
I want to have a child
with my wife. I want to move on.
947
00:56:44,401 --> 00:56:45,527
Please.
948
00:56:46,277 --> 00:56:49,697
Please tell her to just give me this.
949
00:56:50,323 --> 00:56:52,200
I corrected my mistakes.
950
00:56:52,617 --> 00:56:54,494
I have always have been a man,
951
00:56:54,577 --> 00:56:57,956
and I have always taken the responsibility
for everything I've done.
952
00:56:58,540 --> 00:57:01,334
But I will not take more punishment
than I deserve,
953
00:57:01,751 --> 00:57:04,671
and I don't deserve what they done
to me and my family,
954
00:57:04,754 --> 00:57:06,214
and she can correct that.
955
00:57:06,840 --> 00:57:09,592
One signature can correct my life.
956
00:57:10,552 --> 00:57:11,761
Just do it.
957
00:57:14,556 --> 00:57:17,183
I don't know. I'm fucking lost.
958
00:57:18,351 --> 00:57:21,104
I'm lost, I'm screaming,
and nobody listens.
959
00:57:22,939 --> 00:57:23,939
Please.
960
00:57:24,816 --> 00:57:26,901
- I don't know what else to say.
- We need them.
961
00:57:26,985 --> 00:57:28,570
No, I hear you.
962
00:57:29,028 --> 00:57:31,322
And I want to make sure
I stay on top of this.
963
00:57:31,823 --> 00:57:33,324
I understand what's going on
964
00:57:33,408 --> 00:57:35,952
as much as I can understand
what's going on.
965
00:57:36,035 --> 00:57:38,329
So, I just wanted to make sure
that you're updated
966
00:57:38,413 --> 00:57:40,707
on what we're trying to do on our end,
967
00:57:40,790 --> 00:57:43,960
and I'll send you guys an email
with my contact information
968
00:57:44,043 --> 00:57:46,123
just to make sure we
at least get a group chat going.
969
00:57:56,014 --> 00:57:57,182
{\an8}Breaking right now:
970
00:57:57,265 --> 00:58:01,352
{\an8}Mecklenburg County's new sheriff
just got rid of a controversial program
971
00:58:01,436 --> 00:58:04,856
{\an8}that some believe targeted
undocumented immigrants.
972
00:58:04,939 --> 00:58:09,736
Sheriff Garry McFadden signed the document
that will end 287.
973
00:58:09,819 --> 00:58:11,529
We've seen families being torn apart.
974
00:58:11,613 --> 00:58:15,033
{\an8}We're still seeing the effects of 287
in this community.
975
00:58:16,326 --> 00:58:19,537
Sheriff McFadden, you don't understand
how big of a deal this is.
976
00:58:23,082 --> 00:58:23,958
This was the moment
977
00:58:24,042 --> 00:58:27,420
that Charlotte's Hispanic community
has looked forward to for 12 years.
978
00:58:33,510 --> 00:58:37,639
Emotional!
Latin community, we're happy, right?
979
00:58:39,265 --> 00:58:42,435
Garry! Garry! Garry!
980
00:58:42,519 --> 00:58:48,525
Garry! Garry! Garry! Garry! Garry! Garry!
981
00:58:50,401 --> 00:58:51,401
Thank you.
982
00:58:53,446 --> 00:58:56,783
We need more meetings
and assemblies like this
983
00:58:56,866 --> 00:58:59,202
with all communities.
984
00:59:04,290 --> 00:59:08,711
This would help us and you
to become less fearful of each other.
985
00:59:09,921 --> 00:59:12,382
Invite us to your parties.
986
00:59:25,562 --> 00:59:27,272
Invite us to your restaurants.
987
00:59:33,653 --> 00:59:35,154
Invite us to your weddings.
988
00:59:40,118 --> 00:59:41,286
And we will come.
989
00:59:44,122 --> 00:59:45,540
ICE has been informed
990
00:59:45,623 --> 00:59:49,627
that they cannot operate
inside the Mecklenburg County Jail
991
00:59:49,711 --> 00:59:53,798
unless they have a criminal warrant,
not a detainer.
992
00:59:57,302 --> 01:00:00,972
Mecklenburg County's decision
to restrict cooperation with ICE serves
993
01:00:01,055 --> 01:00:04,642
as an open invitation to aliens
who commit criminal offenses
994
01:00:04,726 --> 01:00:07,103
that Mecklenburg County is
now a safe haven
995
01:00:07,186 --> 01:00:10,189
for persons seeking
to evade federal authorities.
996
01:00:10,273 --> 01:00:13,985
This decision to undermine
cooperative law enforcement efforts
997
01:00:14,068 --> 01:00:15,945
seriously undermines public safety
998
01:00:16,029 --> 01:00:20,908
and makes the people of Mecklenburg County
less safe today than they were yesterday.
999
01:00:20,992 --> 01:00:22,785
And they are to notify us
1000
01:00:22,869 --> 01:00:25,872
if they want to come
to the Mecklenburg County Courthouse.
1001
01:00:25,955 --> 01:00:30,043
Yes, they have jurisdiction,
but I have the authority.
1002
01:00:34,589 --> 01:00:37,091
- I can tell you that...
- That's exactly what we've said.
1003
01:00:37,175 --> 01:00:39,761
If you do this, we have no choice.
1004
01:00:39,844 --> 01:00:43,056
There will be a seriously increased
presence of enforcement.
1005
01:00:43,139 --> 01:00:44,849
And make no mistake about it.
1006
01:00:45,433 --> 01:00:49,103
{\an8}Every case that we get,
we're gonna point out.
1007
01:00:49,228 --> 01:00:53,608
{\an8}We're gonna work with you,
and do press releases
1008
01:00:53,691 --> 01:00:54,609
and things like that.
1009
01:00:54,692 --> 01:00:57,528
Oh, sure. This is a person
that we could have taken into custody
1010
01:00:57,612 --> 01:01:01,407
but was out on the street to re-offend,
and we had to go get ourselves.
1011
01:01:01,491 --> 01:01:03,910
I can't wait to do the one where,
you know,
1012
01:01:03,993 --> 01:01:08,998
Juan Miguel Torres was arrested today
by Charlotte fugitive operations
1013
01:01:09,082 --> 01:01:12,669
along with six other people.
You know what I'm saying?
1014
01:01:12,752 --> 01:01:14,952
- It would have been one...
- -It would have been one...
1015
01:01:15,004 --> 01:01:17,524
- but now, it's everybody.
- But now, it's a total of seven.
1016
01:01:17,548 --> 01:01:19,217
I have to protect you
1017
01:01:19,300 --> 01:01:22,387
whether you are documented
or undocumented.
1018
01:01:29,227 --> 01:01:32,146
I am Garry McFadden, your sheriff.
1019
01:01:34,232 --> 01:01:37,151
If that's the way they wanna go,
then they can own that,
1020
01:01:37,235 --> 01:01:39,195
and we'll have to make clear
1021
01:01:39,278 --> 01:01:42,490
that that is why
we have fugitive operations
1022
01:01:43,241 --> 01:01:45,660
with an increased presence
in those communities.
1023
01:01:45,743 --> 01:01:48,496
We charge probably
over 600 people a year.
1024
01:01:49,372 --> 01:01:53,084
We got to make up that number of arrests.
1025
01:01:53,334 --> 01:01:55,962
There's 45,000 beds in the United States,
1026
01:01:56,045 --> 01:01:58,297
and in this field office,
we got about 4,000 of them.
1027
01:01:58,381 --> 01:02:00,591
We plan on keeping every one of them full.
1028
01:02:00,675 --> 01:02:03,344
We're gonna fill our beds for sure.
1029
01:02:03,845 --> 01:02:05,847
We're gonna do everything we can.
1030
01:02:06,681 --> 01:02:10,643
Everyone look here, please!
1031
01:02:17,859 --> 01:02:19,277
- Thank you.
- You're welcome.
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