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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:14,492 --> 00:00:16,842 [indistinct radio chatter] 2 00:00:16,886 --> 00:00:19,756 [distant sirens] 3 00:00:28,637 --> 00:00:31,247 [gentle music] 4 00:00:31,292 --> 00:00:33,862 - I'm nobody. 5 00:00:33,903 --> 00:00:37,083 I'm a tramp, a bum, a hobo. 6 00:00:37,124 --> 00:00:39,874 I'm a boxcar and a jug of wine. 7 00:00:39,909 --> 00:00:42,169 [helicopter whirring] 8 00:00:42,216 --> 00:00:45,256 You think that my mind is like your mind, but it isn't. 9 00:00:46,742 --> 00:00:48,612 There's no need to feel guilty. 10 00:00:48,657 --> 00:00:51,397 I haven't done anything I'm ashamed of. 11 00:00:51,442 --> 00:00:53,362 Because we're outlaws. 12 00:00:53,401 --> 00:00:55,711 [music intensifies] 13 00:00:55,751 --> 00:00:58,751 Yeah, when you're in war, you're in war, mister. 14 00:01:00,669 --> 00:01:04,889 Believe me, if I started murdering people, 15 00:01:04,934 --> 00:01:06,764 there'd be none of you left. 16 00:01:06,805 --> 00:01:10,195 ♪ 17 00:01:10,244 --> 00:01:12,124 - Friday night in Los Angeles, 18 00:01:12,159 --> 00:01:15,209 a movie actress and four of her friends were murdered. 19 00:01:15,249 --> 00:01:16,989 The circumstances were lurid. 20 00:01:17,033 --> 00:01:19,383 - In a scene described by one investigator 21 00:01:19,427 --> 00:01:21,037 as reminiscent of a weird religious rite... 22 00:01:21,081 --> 00:01:23,651 - This was at the home of movie director Roman Polanski. 23 00:01:23,692 --> 00:01:25,392 It was his wife... - Eight months pregnant. 24 00:01:25,433 --> 00:01:26,833 - ...who was one of the victims. 25 00:01:26,869 --> 00:01:27,999 - Bodies were scattered inside, 26 00:01:28,044 --> 00:01:29,264 on the lawn and the driveway. 27 00:01:29,306 --> 00:01:31,436 - The others were a male hairdresser, 28 00:01:31,482 --> 00:01:34,222 the heiress to a coffee fortune, a writer, 29 00:01:34,268 --> 00:01:35,748 and a boy just out of high school. 30 00:01:35,791 --> 00:01:37,841 - A scene more tragic than any horror movie. 31 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:39,750 - Stunned the city and shocked the world. 32 00:01:39,795 --> 00:01:41,925 - In all my years I have never seen anything 33 00:01:41,971 --> 00:01:43,101 like this before. 34 00:01:46,454 --> 00:01:48,674 - You all know it? - No. 35 00:01:48,717 --> 00:01:51,847 - At 8:30 this morning, Winifred Chapman, 36 00:01:51,894 --> 00:01:56,774 an employee, came to work at 10050 Cielo 37 00:01:56,812 --> 00:01:59,602 and found several bodies in the house, 38 00:01:59,641 --> 00:02:02,121 and immediately the police were notified. 39 00:02:03,079 --> 00:02:05,819 The tentative identification of the persons are as follows. 40 00:02:06,691 --> 00:02:08,821 Sharon Polanski, 41 00:02:08,867 --> 00:02:11,257 Jay Sebring, 42 00:02:11,305 --> 00:02:14,175 Wojciech Frykowski, 43 00:02:14,221 --> 00:02:17,011 Abigail Folger, 44 00:02:17,049 --> 00:02:19,489 and another man who is unknown. 45 00:02:19,530 --> 00:02:21,790 - Where were the bodies found? All in one room? 46 00:02:21,837 --> 00:02:25,147 - No, two of the bodies were found inside the house, 47 00:02:25,188 --> 00:02:28,448 one in a vehicle, and two on the front lawn. 48 00:02:28,496 --> 00:02:30,626 - We understand she was pregnant, is that correct? 49 00:02:30,672 --> 00:02:33,502 - Yes, she is pregnant, but I'm not going to discuss how-- 50 00:02:33,544 --> 00:02:36,074 - Were any of the bodies badly mutilated? 51 00:02:36,112 --> 00:02:37,982 - This I'd rather not discuss. 52 00:02:38,027 --> 00:02:39,197 - Was there anything scrawled 53 00:02:39,246 --> 00:02:41,506 on the front door of that house in blood? 54 00:02:41,552 --> 00:02:43,822 - I can't answer that question. 55 00:02:43,859 --> 00:02:46,859 ♪ 56 00:02:46,905 --> 00:02:49,205 - Do you have any kind of an idea 57 00:02:49,256 --> 00:02:50,816 of who might have done it? 58 00:02:50,866 --> 00:02:53,036 Do you have any kind of APBs out, any suspects at all? 59 00:02:53,085 --> 00:02:55,825 - No, the only person we have at this time is Mr. Garretson, 60 00:02:55,871 --> 00:02:58,401 whom we are questioning, because he was on the premises 61 00:02:58,439 --> 00:03:00,009 this morning when the maid arrived. 62 00:03:00,049 --> 00:03:02,009 - Why is this case more complicated than other cases 63 00:03:02,051 --> 00:03:03,491 that you can't comment? 64 00:03:03,531 --> 00:03:05,491 What's the difference in this case? 65 00:03:05,533 --> 00:03:07,403 - Well, how many cases and how many times do you have 66 00:03:07,448 --> 00:03:10,018 five persons that are found murdered at the same time? 67 00:03:10,059 --> 00:03:13,019 - ♪ Around, around 68 00:03:13,062 --> 00:03:15,242 - Living is what scares me. 69 00:03:15,282 --> 00:03:18,072 Dying is easy. 70 00:03:18,763 --> 00:03:21,033 - And a short time later, not far away, 71 00:03:21,070 --> 00:03:23,420 a middle-aged couple was found murdered 72 00:03:23,464 --> 00:03:25,864 in similar circumstances. 73 00:03:25,901 --> 00:03:28,901 - The latest murders were discovered during the night. 74 00:03:28,947 --> 00:03:33,037 The bodies of a man and his wife found in their home. 75 00:03:33,082 --> 00:03:35,782 Leno LaBianca, a supermarket owner, 76 00:03:35,824 --> 00:03:38,354 and his wife had both been stabbed to death, 77 00:03:38,392 --> 00:03:40,872 repeated stab wounds. 78 00:03:40,916 --> 00:03:44,746 On his body, the word "war" had been carved in the chest. 79 00:03:44,789 --> 00:03:48,229 Then, with blood, the killer had scrawled the words 80 00:03:48,271 --> 00:03:50,361 "death to pigs." 81 00:03:50,404 --> 00:03:55,414 ♪ 82 00:03:55,452 --> 00:03:58,372 - Oh my God, it's happened again. 83 00:03:58,412 --> 00:04:02,892 - The slaughter of innocent people. 84 00:04:02,938 --> 00:04:07,378 - That set off a panic state in Los Angeles. 85 00:04:07,421 --> 00:04:08,991 - People locked their doors at night. 86 00:04:09,031 --> 00:04:11,251 People started arming themselves. 87 00:04:12,948 --> 00:04:14,818 [police sirens] 88 00:04:14,863 --> 00:04:17,473 [tense music] 89 00:04:20,129 --> 00:04:23,089 [gentle music] 90 00:04:23,132 --> 00:04:30,272 ♪ 91 00:05:16,490 --> 00:05:18,800 - We thought she was a British star. 92 00:05:18,840 --> 00:05:21,360 Come to find out, she's an American all the time. 93 00:05:21,408 --> 00:05:24,668 A beautiful young lady you're gonna be hearing a lot from. 94 00:05:24,715 --> 00:05:26,795 She's in London filming "The Vampire Killers," 95 00:05:26,848 --> 00:05:29,678 a new film by director Roman Polanski. 96 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:32,770 Sharon Tate is the young lady's name. 97 00:05:33,376 --> 00:05:36,636 - I was born in Dallas, Texas. 98 00:05:36,684 --> 00:05:38,644 - And lived all of your life in America? 99 00:05:38,686 --> 00:05:41,376 - Not really, I lived in Italy for four years. 100 00:05:41,428 --> 00:05:43,688 - Why was that? - My dad's in the Army. 101 00:05:44,126 --> 00:05:46,256 - An Army brat made good, huh? 102 00:05:46,302 --> 00:05:48,222 - Yeah, I try. - Oh, that's great. 103 00:05:48,260 --> 00:05:49,910 And now you have a monster movie. 104 00:05:49,958 --> 00:05:52,348 - And now--not really. - What's it called? 105 00:05:52,395 --> 00:05:56,265 - It's called "The Vampire Killers," Roman Polanski. 106 00:05:56,312 --> 00:05:57,882 - Sharon? 107 00:05:57,922 --> 00:05:59,532 Sharon? 108 00:06:00,621 --> 00:06:03,581 Looking at him, not at me, okay? 109 00:06:03,624 --> 00:06:05,504 - Looking at the husband? - Yeah. 110 00:06:05,539 --> 00:06:07,799 - You know, uh-- - Yeah. 111 00:06:11,066 --> 00:06:13,546 - Quiet in the back. - Turnover. 112 00:06:16,158 --> 00:06:17,858 - During that period when I was in London, 113 00:06:17,899 --> 00:06:20,679 I remember an instant when I was thinking, 114 00:06:20,728 --> 00:06:23,948 "I'm happy now and I don't want anything else." 115 00:06:26,647 --> 00:06:29,297 - London: two top film folk got spliced, 116 00:06:29,345 --> 00:06:31,695 and the present public turned out in force. 117 00:06:31,739 --> 00:06:34,519 He is Polish-born director Roman Polanski. 118 00:06:34,568 --> 00:06:36,308 She's American actress Sharon Tate. 119 00:06:36,352 --> 00:06:38,882 And the huge public interest their wedding created 120 00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:40,880 shows that the magic of motion pictures 121 00:06:40,922 --> 00:06:42,972 is as strong today as ever. 122 00:06:43,011 --> 00:06:45,541 After the ceremony at Chelsea Registry Office, 123 00:06:45,579 --> 00:06:47,929 the mini-gowned bride and the mod-geared mate 124 00:06:47,972 --> 00:06:51,502 made for the Playboy Club and a star-studded reception. 125 00:06:54,457 --> 00:06:56,067 Bunnies lavished champagne 126 00:06:56,111 --> 00:06:58,111 on some of the top names in show business. 127 00:06:59,941 --> 00:07:01,731 Michael Caine keeping company 128 00:07:01,769 --> 00:07:04,159 with very dishy Candice Bergen. 129 00:07:04,206 --> 00:07:05,726 The bride will keep working. 130 00:07:05,773 --> 00:07:08,303 Hubby says he wants a hippie, not a housewife. 131 00:07:08,340 --> 00:07:10,730 That was the only serious note of the day. 132 00:07:10,778 --> 00:07:14,128 Tony Newley got the star set really shaking. 133 00:07:14,172 --> 00:07:16,962 [upbeat music] 134 00:07:24,313 --> 00:07:27,623 - California. Mean temperature 73 degrees. 135 00:07:27,664 --> 00:07:30,754 The sun that never quits. 136 00:07:30,798 --> 00:07:32,758 It acts on the unburned hydrocarbons 137 00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:36,370 and oxides of nitrogen from auto exhaust. 138 00:07:36,412 --> 00:07:39,112 Los Angeles County, with four million cars 139 00:07:39,154 --> 00:07:43,204 and the odd bike suffers most because it's in a basin. 140 00:07:44,246 --> 00:07:45,506 The breezes are balmy. 141 00:07:45,552 --> 00:07:47,992 There's nothing to stir up that brown cloud 142 00:07:48,032 --> 00:07:49,822 that can make your eyes tear. 143 00:07:50,426 --> 00:07:53,856 85% of it attributed to cars. 144 00:07:53,908 --> 00:07:57,868 The more general effect, our whole climate is warming up 145 00:07:57,912 --> 00:08:00,522 because there's so much carbon dioxide in the air. 146 00:08:00,567 --> 00:08:03,787 It's so heavy that it prevents the radiation of heat 147 00:08:03,831 --> 00:08:05,661 from the Earth's surface. 148 00:08:06,355 --> 00:08:08,965 [inhales deeply] 149 00:08:09,010 --> 00:08:11,840 Ahh, breathe in, city folk. 150 00:08:13,362 --> 00:08:16,322 [Charles Manson's "Don't Do Anything Illegal"] 151 00:08:16,365 --> 00:08:23,235 ♪ 152 00:08:30,031 --> 00:08:32,731 - ♪ Don't do anything illegal ♪ 153 00:08:33,861 --> 00:08:36,561 ♪ Beware of the eagle 154 00:08:36,603 --> 00:08:39,393 ♪ That's right in the middle of your back ♪ 155 00:08:39,954 --> 00:08:41,564 ♪ Don't be illegal ♪ 156 00:08:41,608 --> 00:08:44,048 ♪ They got 157 00:08:46,308 --> 00:08:48,878 ♪ You in a sack 158 00:08:49,441 --> 00:08:52,231 ♪ They got you in a sack ♪ 159 00:08:53,271 --> 00:08:56,411 ♪ And they keep you looking back ♪ 160 00:08:56,797 --> 00:08:58,837 ♪ 161 00:08:58,886 --> 00:09:01,186 ♪ Don't do anything illegal 162 00:09:01,236 --> 00:09:05,456 ♪ Beware of the eagle that's got you by the neck ♪ 163 00:09:05,501 --> 00:09:09,681 ♪ 164 00:09:09,723 --> 00:09:13,203 - This is where they lived, among the stables, barns, 165 00:09:13,248 --> 00:09:15,378 and phony buildings of an old, 166 00:09:15,424 --> 00:09:18,784 run-down movie location 20 miles from Los Angeles. 167 00:09:18,819 --> 00:09:21,039 They called themselves "The Family." 168 00:09:21,082 --> 00:09:23,042 - ♪ I gotta see your ID my friend ♪ 169 00:09:23,084 --> 00:09:26,394 ♪ I gotta see where you begin ♪ 170 00:09:26,435 --> 00:09:28,305 ♪ I gotta see your ID my friend ♪ 171 00:09:28,350 --> 00:09:31,140 - Back and forth, lugging their sleeping bags. 172 00:09:31,179 --> 00:09:34,139 They just lived anywhere they felt like it. 173 00:09:34,182 --> 00:09:35,312 With they're family. 174 00:09:35,357 --> 00:09:37,447 - They were constantly taking dope, 175 00:09:37,489 --> 00:09:38,749 and they just sit around all day 176 00:09:38,795 --> 00:09:41,315 and sleep and got loaded. 177 00:09:41,363 --> 00:09:44,063 - Police said they were a pseudo-religious cult. 178 00:09:44,105 --> 00:09:46,755 The family's leader, Charles Manson-- 179 00:09:46,803 --> 00:09:49,413 - He's a good person. A very good person. 180 00:09:49,458 --> 00:09:50,938 He's got a lot of peace. 181 00:09:50,981 --> 00:09:54,161 - He was introduced to us as their idol and leader, 182 00:09:54,202 --> 00:09:57,422 and he was always interested in music. 183 00:09:57,466 --> 00:10:00,596 And everywhere he went, some of the girls kinda followed him 184 00:10:00,643 --> 00:10:03,253 and laughed and talk and sang. 185 00:10:03,298 --> 00:10:05,078 - Well, when I first met him, the man talked to me, 186 00:10:05,126 --> 00:10:06,946 and he says, "Why don't you come up?" 187 00:10:06,997 --> 00:10:10,257 "and the rules are that, you know, there is no rules." 188 00:10:10,305 --> 00:10:12,475 "You just look at it, and just be beautiful with it, 189 00:10:12,524 --> 00:10:14,184 and it's just beautiful to you." 190 00:10:14,222 --> 00:10:16,272 - Yeah. - You know, and I love him. 191 00:10:16,311 --> 00:10:20,361 - His so-called power, which is-it only lies in his happiness. 192 00:10:20,402 --> 00:10:23,492 That's what attracts people is he's completely happy. 193 00:10:23,535 --> 00:10:25,095 - And warm. - Gentle. 194 00:10:25,146 --> 00:10:28,276 He dances, he sings, he looks beautiful, 195 00:10:28,323 --> 00:10:31,283 he looks happy, and this draws a lot of people, 196 00:10:31,326 --> 00:10:33,676 just like people are drawn to little babies. 197 00:10:33,720 --> 00:10:35,640 - That's all there is, that's all there is, 198 00:10:35,678 --> 00:10:36,938 is brothers and sisters, 199 00:10:36,984 --> 00:10:40,864 and Charles Manson is your brother. 200 00:10:40,901 --> 00:10:42,551 - Morning. - Why? 201 00:10:42,598 --> 00:10:44,208 - Sun's shining this morning. - It is. 202 00:10:44,252 --> 00:10:46,122 - Yeah. - Well, what are your plans? 203 00:10:46,167 --> 00:10:48,817 - I have none. 204 00:10:48,865 --> 00:10:49,945 Going to the desert. 205 00:10:49,997 --> 00:10:52,647 - Desert? - Yeah. 206 00:10:55,350 --> 00:10:59,050 - So you were 14, 15, 16 during that time? 207 00:10:59,093 --> 00:11:01,313 - I met him when I was 14. 208 00:11:01,356 --> 00:11:04,656 He was kind of impish and playful, you know? 209 00:11:04,707 --> 00:11:05,877 He could be funny. 210 00:11:05,926 --> 00:11:09,146 [gentle music] 211 00:11:09,190 --> 00:11:10,500 ♪ 212 00:11:10,539 --> 00:11:13,189 He was in the circle playing music, 213 00:11:13,237 --> 00:11:15,497 and he got up and offered me his root beer, 214 00:11:15,544 --> 00:11:17,724 and gave me a big hug, 215 00:11:17,764 --> 00:11:19,904 and "Come, join us in the circle." 216 00:11:19,940 --> 00:11:22,380 We, you know, "We've been waiting for you." 217 00:11:23,726 --> 00:11:26,556 It just all ended up seeming, 218 00:11:26,598 --> 00:11:29,508 you know, like providence or something. 219 00:11:29,558 --> 00:11:34,608 ♪ 220 00:11:34,650 --> 00:11:40,180 Spahn Ranch had been a movie set for lots of westerns. 221 00:11:40,221 --> 00:11:43,441 And when we first saw it, that's what it was. 222 00:11:43,485 --> 00:11:47,575 It was kind of a run-down movie set. 223 00:11:47,619 --> 00:11:52,539 The corral was way to the left and there was a big barn. 224 00:11:52,581 --> 00:11:56,241 There was the jail and there was a big saloon. 225 00:11:57,934 --> 00:12:02,424 But there were rooms behind them. 226 00:12:02,460 --> 00:12:05,330 And then there was the kitchen. 227 00:12:07,814 --> 00:12:11,774 There was a band of, like, we called them outlaw shacks. 228 00:12:13,602 --> 00:12:17,742 And then all the way to the right was George's house. 229 00:12:21,088 --> 00:12:25,088 He was blind, and it definitely showed. 230 00:12:27,007 --> 00:12:31,097 You know, the house was in as bad disrepair as, 231 00:12:31,141 --> 00:12:32,621 you know, the facade. 232 00:12:32,664 --> 00:12:35,764 It needed paint, inside and out. 233 00:12:40,977 --> 00:12:42,757 And we cleaned. 234 00:12:42,805 --> 00:12:47,105 You know, there was always tons of sweeping to do. 235 00:12:47,157 --> 00:12:50,807 We mucked out the stalls. 236 00:12:50,857 --> 00:12:52,817 And we helped out in the corral. 237 00:12:52,859 --> 00:12:55,469 We helped rent the horses. 238 00:12:55,513 --> 00:12:58,823 There were trails all over for riding horses into the hills 239 00:12:58,865 --> 00:13:00,865 where all the fabulous rocks are. 240 00:13:04,653 --> 00:13:05,963 We got high. 241 00:13:06,002 --> 00:13:09,142 Obviously, we got high. 242 00:13:12,356 --> 00:13:15,446 You know, I could just remember dancing together 243 00:13:15,490 --> 00:13:18,540 and just, you know, maybe cooking. 244 00:13:21,322 --> 00:13:23,322 Helms Bakery would come by 245 00:13:23,367 --> 00:13:27,147 and give us their day-old stuff at the ranch. 246 00:13:29,721 --> 00:13:32,861 And Charlie introduced us to dumpster diving 247 00:13:32,899 --> 00:13:34,289 behind the grocery stores. 248 00:13:34,335 --> 00:13:36,205 We had our favorite ones, 249 00:13:36,250 --> 00:13:39,340 because they had better food that they threw out. 250 00:13:43,344 --> 00:13:45,044 You know, in the beginning, it was different. 251 00:13:45,085 --> 00:13:47,825 I mean, there was just like six of us girls. 252 00:13:50,090 --> 00:13:52,310 Mary was pretty reserved, actually. 253 00:13:52,353 --> 00:13:55,143 You know, she was very quiet. 254 00:13:55,182 --> 00:13:59,232 Mary really was like the matriarch of the Family. 255 00:13:59,273 --> 00:14:03,763 I think Mary probably a little bit resented, 256 00:14:03,799 --> 00:14:06,849 you know, like all of us did, sharing Charlie. 257 00:14:08,717 --> 00:14:11,677 Patty Krenwinkel was just like Mother Earth, 258 00:14:11,720 --> 00:14:15,990 I mean, she was just one of the sweetest, humblest, 259 00:14:16,029 --> 00:14:19,379 most nurturing girls in the Family. 260 00:14:23,384 --> 00:14:27,174 Leslie, she was just like a giggly high schooler. 261 00:14:27,214 --> 00:14:29,914 I viewed her as a little hottie, 262 00:14:29,956 --> 00:14:32,386 and I hadn't been to high school. 263 00:14:33,002 --> 00:14:35,182 She'd been like a homecoming queen, 264 00:14:35,222 --> 00:14:37,442 and she really came off like that. 265 00:14:41,271 --> 00:14:44,751 Sandy was very smart, but she was very needy. 266 00:14:45,145 --> 00:14:48,445 You got that sense that she was entitled. 267 00:14:49,976 --> 00:14:53,196 She has remained one of Charlie's 268 00:14:53,240 --> 00:14:55,630 most ardent followers. 269 00:14:58,245 --> 00:15:01,545 Susan Atkins was definitely more worldly. 270 00:15:01,596 --> 00:15:05,026 She'd been a stripper, maybe she'd even been a sex worker. 271 00:15:05,078 --> 00:15:06,908 You know, she'd been around the block. 272 00:15:09,647 --> 00:15:13,387 Gypsy came to the Family at Spahn Ranch. 273 00:15:13,434 --> 00:15:15,924 Gypsy liked that lifestyle. 274 00:15:18,004 --> 00:15:21,094 She was playful. She played the violin. 275 00:15:22,443 --> 00:15:24,623 She was definitely a true hippie. 276 00:15:27,448 --> 00:15:31,408 I was closest to, really, Lynette. 277 00:15:31,452 --> 00:15:34,632 Lynette was kind of looking out after George. 278 00:15:36,805 --> 00:15:43,155 Lynette was really the closest confidante to Charlie. 279 00:15:44,378 --> 00:15:47,948 He confided more in her than anybody. 280 00:15:50,297 --> 00:15:53,257 And I think that Charlie played a different role 281 00:15:53,300 --> 00:15:55,130 for each one of us. 282 00:15:56,651 --> 00:15:59,481 I was falling under Charlie's spell. 283 00:16:02,483 --> 00:16:07,273 - We were in a group marriage with all the lines blurred. 284 00:16:07,314 --> 00:16:09,014 We were brothers, sisters, 285 00:16:09,055 --> 00:16:13,315 mothers, fathers, lovers, everything to each other. 286 00:16:15,670 --> 00:16:17,450 One of the reasons we were pulled to Charlie 287 00:16:17,498 --> 00:16:19,328 was because he was a musician. 288 00:16:19,369 --> 00:16:21,809 All of us wanted to be musicians, 289 00:16:21,850 --> 00:16:24,850 and that's what we did every single night is play music. 290 00:16:24,896 --> 00:16:27,286 [upbeat guitar music] 291 00:16:27,334 --> 00:16:31,514 - ♪ Walking all alone not going anywhere ♪ 292 00:16:31,555 --> 00:16:35,645 ♪ Walking all alone and nobody seemed to care ♪ 293 00:16:35,690 --> 00:16:40,040 ♪ Restless as the wind, this town is killing me ♪ 294 00:16:40,086 --> 00:16:43,696 ♪ Got to put an end to this restless misery ♪ 295 00:16:47,354 --> 00:16:50,314 - Usually we'd get in the circle, 296 00:16:50,357 --> 00:16:54,747 and Charlie would administer the acid, 297 00:16:54,796 --> 00:16:57,276 like a sacrament, almost. 298 00:16:59,757 --> 00:17:04,757 Taking LSD, you can see the trees growing. 299 00:17:04,806 --> 00:17:07,766 I mean, you just really feel like at one 300 00:17:07,809 --> 00:17:11,159 with the Earth and the universe. 301 00:17:11,204 --> 00:17:12,424 I mean, you just kind of like, 302 00:17:12,466 --> 00:17:15,726 everything starts making more sense. 303 00:17:20,213 --> 00:17:22,083 And then at some point, 304 00:17:22,128 --> 00:17:25,698 he would orchestrate a love-in, 305 00:17:25,740 --> 00:17:29,740 you know, an orgy, for lack of a better word. 306 00:17:29,787 --> 00:17:32,527 I mean, we didn't think of it as an orgy, 307 00:17:32,573 --> 00:17:34,753 but that's really what it was. 308 00:17:34,792 --> 00:17:37,532 [gentle music] 309 00:17:37,578 --> 00:17:40,408 We were dependent upon each other. 310 00:17:41,103 --> 00:17:44,673 He didn't want us to think about our families. 311 00:17:46,282 --> 00:17:48,422 Forget your parents. 312 00:17:48,980 --> 00:17:50,550 You know, get rid of your inhibitions. 313 00:17:50,591 --> 00:17:53,551 You know, what the outside society says is wrong. 314 00:17:53,594 --> 00:17:55,994 You know, we're going in the right direction. 315 00:17:56,031 --> 00:18:00,431 ♪ 316 00:18:00,470 --> 00:18:03,560 [The Litter's "Action Woman"] 317 00:18:03,604 --> 00:18:08,264 ♪ 318 00:18:08,304 --> 00:18:11,394 - ♪ Hey Miss High and Mighty 319 00:18:11,438 --> 00:18:15,088 ♪ I've had all I can take 320 00:18:15,137 --> 00:18:18,357 ♪ Walking right on by me 321 00:18:19,010 --> 00:18:21,750 ♪ That's your last mistake ♪ 322 00:18:21,796 --> 00:18:25,626 ♪ I've got to find myself some action ♪ 323 00:18:25,669 --> 00:18:28,589 ♪ Before I lose my mind 324 00:18:28,629 --> 00:18:31,239 - This is Hollywood, the most famous, 325 00:18:31,284 --> 00:18:33,334 the most glamorous place in the world. 326 00:18:33,373 --> 00:18:36,163 It's a place of dreams, hopes, and riches. 327 00:18:36,202 --> 00:18:38,992 Let's go Hollywood backstage and see this unique 328 00:18:39,030 --> 00:18:41,950 and fascinating place called Hollywood. 329 00:18:41,990 --> 00:18:44,780 ♪ 330 00:18:44,819 --> 00:18:49,909 - The Hollywood scene was quite a vibrant scene. 331 00:18:50,564 --> 00:18:53,834 It was a period when the Beach Boys were very big, 332 00:18:53,871 --> 00:18:56,051 Buffalo Springfield, the Byrds. 333 00:18:56,091 --> 00:18:59,491 They were all coming up fast. They were all big. 334 00:19:00,182 --> 00:19:01,792 The scene in the nightclubs 335 00:19:01,836 --> 00:19:05,056 was a crazy mélange of characters 336 00:19:05,100 --> 00:19:06,620 from the rock and roll world 337 00:19:06,667 --> 00:19:08,667 and characters from the underworld. 338 00:19:11,019 --> 00:19:13,629 You could see the celebrities hanging out 339 00:19:13,674 --> 00:19:18,244 at Jack Hanson's Daisy Club in Beverly Hills. 340 00:19:18,679 --> 00:19:23,989 Jack Hanson and his wife, Sally, designed Jack Slacks. 341 00:19:24,032 --> 00:19:25,992 - Hollywood is the place 342 00:19:26,034 --> 00:19:28,474 where women started wearing pants, 343 00:19:28,515 --> 00:19:30,995 led by Marlene Dietrich in the '30s. 344 00:19:31,039 --> 00:19:34,349 Slacks are now an accepted item of feminine apparel. 345 00:19:34,390 --> 00:19:36,650 But at Jack's of Beverly Hills, 346 00:19:36,697 --> 00:19:39,737 they achieve a new, impressive status. 347 00:19:39,787 --> 00:19:43,177 - He could make women, particularly actresses, 348 00:19:43,225 --> 00:19:46,225 look sleek and sexy. 349 00:19:46,272 --> 00:19:48,062 Jack made a lot of money from it, 350 00:19:48,099 --> 00:19:50,539 and he opened his own club. 351 00:19:50,580 --> 00:19:53,020 You didn't apply for membership to Jack's. 352 00:19:53,061 --> 00:19:55,111 You were invited to join. 353 00:19:55,150 --> 00:19:59,240 Steve McQueen, Roman Polanski there with Sharon Tate. 354 00:19:59,285 --> 00:20:01,325 Then of course, there was Jay Sebring, 355 00:20:01,374 --> 00:20:03,774 who earned huge amounts of money 356 00:20:03,811 --> 00:20:07,211 for giving a movie star a haircut. 357 00:20:08,381 --> 00:20:09,951 And they could go wild, 358 00:20:09,991 --> 00:20:12,041 and they could know that no paparazzi 359 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:14,430 would take their picture. 360 00:20:14,474 --> 00:20:16,694 Drugs were being used. 361 00:20:16,737 --> 00:20:18,777 If you saw it, you didn't talk about it. 362 00:20:19,783 --> 00:20:22,573 Many stars were probably looking 363 00:20:22,612 --> 00:20:24,572 for a little bit of an extra kick, 364 00:20:24,614 --> 00:20:28,274 so anybody with kind of a rough reputation 365 00:20:28,314 --> 00:20:30,404 might have been adopted into the scene. 366 00:20:44,112 --> 00:20:47,072 - They're doing this movie in Topanga Canyon, 367 00:20:47,115 --> 00:20:49,155 just a stupid nudie cutie, 368 00:20:49,204 --> 00:20:52,734 and they want a bunch of girls that can look like Indians. 369 00:20:52,773 --> 00:20:54,913 I read for them, and they said, 370 00:20:54,949 --> 00:20:59,079 "We'd like to offer you one of the main roles." 371 00:20:59,127 --> 00:21:02,517 So that was "Ramrodder." 372 00:21:05,046 --> 00:21:08,086 I show up, and just a little ways off 373 00:21:08,136 --> 00:21:11,966 I see this stunningly handsome young man. 374 00:21:13,663 --> 00:21:18,323 And he came over, and he got really, really close, 375 00:21:18,364 --> 00:21:22,594 and he said, "I'm your love interest." 376 00:21:22,629 --> 00:21:25,809 And he said, "Do you mind if I get a preview?" 377 00:21:28,025 --> 00:21:30,935 He lifted my top and goes, 378 00:21:30,985 --> 00:21:33,935 "Perfect, just like I thought." 379 00:21:33,988 --> 00:21:37,298 Turned around and said, "I'll see you later." 380 00:21:37,339 --> 00:21:38,859 And that's how I met Bobby. 381 00:21:39,472 --> 00:21:44,962 ♪ 382 00:21:44,999 --> 00:21:48,829 - Topanga was laid back compared to Los Angeles. 383 00:21:48,872 --> 00:21:51,142 You had the feeling that you were out in the country, 384 00:21:51,179 --> 00:21:55,009 even though it was fairly close to civilization. 385 00:21:57,011 --> 00:22:00,141 The first time I met Charlie was down in the Topanga Canyon 386 00:22:00,188 --> 00:22:01,318 where it meets the highway. 387 00:22:03,409 --> 00:22:07,629 I heard music coming from this old wooden house. 388 00:22:07,674 --> 00:22:09,984 I went up the spiral staircase. 389 00:22:10,024 --> 00:22:13,034 There was a guy in a plaid shirt singing, playing guitar. 390 00:22:14,550 --> 00:22:16,470 I started playing this little instrument 391 00:22:16,509 --> 00:22:17,989 I found on the table, 392 00:22:18,032 --> 00:22:20,382 and just did the best I could to fit in 393 00:22:20,426 --> 00:22:22,516 with the man who was singing, 394 00:22:22,558 --> 00:22:26,038 who I was later introduced to as Charlie. 395 00:22:27,694 --> 00:22:30,174 After I moved into Topanga, 396 00:22:30,218 --> 00:22:32,608 I wanted to try to get some jobs playing guitar. 397 00:22:33,264 --> 00:22:36,364 One day I did get a call from the bass player 398 00:22:36,398 --> 00:22:38,358 in a band called The Milky Way. 399 00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:42,060 The band was built around the songs that Charlie was doing. 400 00:22:42,752 --> 00:22:46,192 We played at the Topanga Corral I think two nights 401 00:22:46,234 --> 00:22:48,764 or three nights before we were fired. 402 00:22:50,151 --> 00:22:52,371 I wasn't gonna join his commune. 403 00:22:52,414 --> 00:22:54,204 I had no interest in that, 404 00:22:54,242 --> 00:22:56,942 but he is a person, as a musician, 405 00:22:57,419 --> 00:22:59,289 I did have an interest in. 406 00:22:59,334 --> 00:23:01,604 I thought he was worth investing 407 00:23:01,641 --> 00:23:03,901 a little of myself in. 408 00:23:05,035 --> 00:23:09,905 It was enough of an interest to me that I kept coming back. 409 00:23:10,084 --> 00:23:17,094 ♪ ♪ 410 00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:34,410 [mellow guitar music] 411 00:23:34,456 --> 00:23:35,756 - ♪ Pretty girl 412 00:23:37,154 --> 00:23:40,424 - A couple of girls met Dennis Wilson. 413 00:23:40,462 --> 00:23:42,072 He picked 'em up hitchhiking, 414 00:23:42,116 --> 00:23:44,806 and they introduced him to Charlie. 415 00:23:44,858 --> 00:23:48,248 - ♪ Cease to exist 416 00:23:48,296 --> 00:23:51,076 ♪ Just come and say you love me ♪ 417 00:23:51,125 --> 00:23:53,555 - I think the two must have hit it off. 418 00:23:53,606 --> 00:23:55,126 Suddenly we were, like, living there. 419 00:23:56,609 --> 00:23:59,999 - Give up your world ♪ 420 00:24:00,047 --> 00:24:03,617 ♪ Never learn not to love you ♪ 421 00:24:05,139 --> 00:24:08,189 - When we first drove into Dennis Wilson's estate, 422 00:24:08,229 --> 00:24:10,359 there was peacocks roaming around 423 00:24:10,405 --> 00:24:12,835 and big eucalyptus trees, 424 00:24:12,886 --> 00:24:17,016 and just a rambling log home with a lot of glass. 425 00:24:19,849 --> 00:24:21,979 It was really beautiful. 426 00:24:24,506 --> 00:24:26,806 There was a guest house. 427 00:24:29,163 --> 00:24:30,993 Big swimming pool. 428 00:24:37,345 --> 00:24:41,175 Just a beautiful place, the inside, huge fireplace. 429 00:24:41,218 --> 00:24:44,218 Fireplace that you could walk into. 430 00:24:46,180 --> 00:24:49,530 Charlie was teaching Dennis how to play the guitar, 431 00:24:49,575 --> 00:24:55,615 and Dennis welcomed Charlie and us girls into his home, 432 00:24:55,668 --> 00:24:59,628 and we would take his Rolls Royce and go dumpster diving. 433 00:24:59,672 --> 00:25:01,802 We made food, and he was impressed. 434 00:25:01,848 --> 00:25:04,808 I remember making the strawberry cake, you know? 435 00:25:04,851 --> 00:25:07,511 And he was like, "Wow, this came out of a--" 436 00:25:07,549 --> 00:25:09,509 You know, "This came out of a dumpster?" 437 00:25:11,466 --> 00:25:13,156 He would introduce Charlie 438 00:25:13,207 --> 00:25:16,077 to his other musician friends with pride. 439 00:25:16,123 --> 00:25:19,173 - [Charlie] Common people, man, so... 440 00:25:19,213 --> 00:25:23,003 - Both Terry Melcher and Gregg Jakobson came 441 00:25:23,043 --> 00:25:26,533 and listened to Charlie play the guitar and sing. 442 00:25:27,569 --> 00:25:29,919 - Dennis called me up and was very excited, 443 00:25:29,963 --> 00:25:31,403 and said, "Come on, you've got to meet this guy 444 00:25:31,442 --> 00:25:33,532 and these girls," and he went on and on. 445 00:25:33,575 --> 00:25:37,575 And sure enough, it was quite an interesting scene. 446 00:25:37,623 --> 00:25:39,363 Everybody was having a good time, 447 00:25:39,407 --> 00:25:41,277 drinking beer, smoking a joint. 448 00:25:41,322 --> 00:25:43,542 Girls were in the swimming pool. 449 00:25:44,586 --> 00:25:47,366 Charlie was inside, and he was very demanding. 450 00:25:47,415 --> 00:25:49,895 He did garner your attention. 451 00:25:49,939 --> 00:25:51,849 He was a fascinating character. 452 00:25:51,898 --> 00:25:53,378 He was really interesting. 453 00:25:53,421 --> 00:25:55,211 - If you had a camera, I could dance. 454 00:25:55,249 --> 00:25:57,859 - Dennis used to call Charlie "the Wizard." 455 00:25:57,904 --> 00:26:01,084 He really thought that Charlie was magical. 456 00:26:01,124 --> 00:26:03,434 In the beginning, he was really enamored by him. 457 00:26:03,474 --> 00:26:06,044 - I wrote about a couple hundred songs, you know? 458 00:26:06,086 --> 00:26:11,566 - Dennis had an affinity for finding the waifs 459 00:26:11,613 --> 00:26:13,703 and people that seemed to be misfits. 460 00:26:13,746 --> 00:26:16,226 They would all seem to find him. 461 00:26:16,270 --> 00:26:19,620 That's where Charlie Manson came into the scene. 462 00:26:19,665 --> 00:26:22,485 He was one of Dennis's projects. 463 00:26:22,537 --> 00:26:25,237 - [chuckles] Huh? Yeah, well, I mean, you know-- 464 00:26:25,279 --> 00:26:29,809 - He wasn't a friend of mine, but I knew him. 465 00:26:29,849 --> 00:26:33,069 And he would find the places that we were, 466 00:26:33,113 --> 00:26:35,903 and he would just be there. 467 00:26:35,942 --> 00:26:38,422 I just thought he was a seedy little character, 468 00:26:38,466 --> 00:26:41,426 and I just, you know, and he also didn't bathe. 469 00:26:41,469 --> 00:26:42,949 And none of those people did. 470 00:26:42,992 --> 00:26:45,732 And so you knew he was there a block away, 471 00:26:45,778 --> 00:26:48,428 just, you know, 'cause that's who he was. 472 00:26:48,476 --> 00:26:50,736 - The smartest people in the world 473 00:26:50,783 --> 00:26:52,963 are really the most cut off. 474 00:26:54,308 --> 00:26:56,918 - And he would make you listen to this guy, 475 00:26:56,963 --> 00:26:58,923 and people were doing it to humor Dennis, 476 00:26:58,965 --> 00:27:00,745 or because of who he was, 477 00:27:00,793 --> 00:27:02,803 people were giving him the respect. 478 00:27:02,838 --> 00:27:05,358 - Take all the words away 479 00:27:05,406 --> 00:27:06,966 and don't think in right and wrong. 480 00:27:07,016 --> 00:27:10,536 Just think in truth and all the answers are there. 481 00:27:10,585 --> 00:27:12,275 The weirdest thing was 482 00:27:12,326 --> 00:27:14,676 first the parties were in the guest house, 483 00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:16,940 and this Manson and his crew would be there. 484 00:27:16,983 --> 00:27:19,553 And then it kind of flipped itself, 485 00:27:19,594 --> 00:27:22,954 and Dennis moved those people into his house, 486 00:27:22,989 --> 00:27:26,469 and he stayed in the guest house on his own property. 487 00:27:26,514 --> 00:27:31,394 So, for some reason, Charlie was able to manipulate him. 488 00:27:31,432 --> 00:27:33,002 - Oh, yeah, this'll make you some money. 489 00:27:33,042 --> 00:27:34,702 This is a money song, yeah. 490 00:27:34,740 --> 00:27:37,130 - Charles had convinced him that the music 491 00:27:37,177 --> 00:27:38,957 that he was playing was good, 492 00:27:39,005 --> 00:27:41,485 and that he was gonna be a superstar, 493 00:27:41,529 --> 00:27:44,359 and so I guess Dennis went along with it, 494 00:27:44,401 --> 00:27:47,141 I guess, and tried introducing him to people, 495 00:27:47,187 --> 00:27:49,967 and to try to get him a record deal and all of that. 496 00:27:50,016 --> 00:27:51,886 - You do whatever you feel, man. 497 00:27:51,931 --> 00:27:53,191 - Yeah, well, then I won't-- I won't do-- 498 00:27:53,236 --> 00:27:54,536 - You know, whatever comes in your mind. 499 00:27:54,585 --> 00:27:56,675 - Yeah, all right. - I'm just sitting here, 500 00:27:56,718 --> 00:27:58,498 gonna groove with you for the next hour and a half, 501 00:27:58,546 --> 00:27:59,806 or hour and 45-- 502 00:27:59,852 --> 00:28:01,982 - We went to Brian Wilson's 503 00:28:02,028 --> 00:28:05,678 to a session that they were gonna record maybe a demo. 504 00:28:06,554 --> 00:28:09,044 - Let's see, hmm-hm. 505 00:28:09,078 --> 00:28:10,208 [gentle guitar music] 506 00:28:10,253 --> 00:28:14,953 ♪ There's a time for living 507 00:28:15,606 --> 00:28:20,696 ♪ The time keeps on flying ♪ 508 00:28:21,308 --> 00:28:24,048 ♪ Think you're loving baby ♪ 509 00:28:24,093 --> 00:28:27,013 ♪ And all you're doing is crying ♪ 510 00:28:27,053 --> 00:28:31,193 ♪ Can you feel are those feelings real ♪ 511 00:28:31,231 --> 00:28:34,231 ♪ Look at your game, girl 512 00:28:35,888 --> 00:28:39,718 ♪ Look at your game, girl 513 00:28:39,761 --> 00:28:43,591 ♪ What a sad, sad game 514 00:28:43,634 --> 00:28:47,074 ♪ Mad game 515 00:28:48,770 --> 00:28:52,250 ♪ Sad game 516 00:29:11,097 --> 00:29:13,227 - Summer was coming to an end. 517 00:29:13,273 --> 00:29:14,583 At some point, Dennis would have to leave. 518 00:29:14,622 --> 00:29:16,282 The Beach Boys were gonna go on the road. 519 00:29:17,973 --> 00:29:21,023 And that's when things would start to fall apart. 520 00:29:22,282 --> 00:29:24,462 I remember at one point Dennis is gone, 521 00:29:24,501 --> 00:29:26,631 One of the accountants for Dennis says, 522 00:29:26,677 --> 00:29:31,467 "You have a $1,200 Alta Dena Dairy bill." 523 00:29:32,335 --> 00:29:33,815 They were charging everything. 524 00:29:33,859 --> 00:29:35,689 They would--The Alta Dena Dairy man would, like, 525 00:29:35,730 --> 00:29:38,250 be unloading his truck there at the place. 526 00:29:38,298 --> 00:29:40,778 So that started to play on Dennis. 527 00:29:41,127 --> 00:29:43,607 He didn't want people to take advantage of him, 528 00:29:43,651 --> 00:29:46,351 nobody does, and that became more and more apparent 529 00:29:46,393 --> 00:29:48,483 that that's what was going on. 530 00:29:49,352 --> 00:29:51,352 That was, maybe more than anything else, 531 00:29:51,398 --> 00:29:53,788 the formal beginning of the split, 532 00:29:53,835 --> 00:29:55,785 of going their separate ways. 533 00:29:57,578 --> 00:29:59,618 He was gonna go away for two weeks, on the road, 534 00:29:59,667 --> 00:30:01,147 and he said, "Gregg, can you get me out of here? 535 00:30:01,190 --> 00:30:02,980 Can you find a house for me?" 536 00:30:03,366 --> 00:30:05,666 So, literally, I hired a moving company 537 00:30:05,716 --> 00:30:08,326 to take Dennis's personal stuff out of there. 538 00:30:10,243 --> 00:30:12,293 And the whole idea was to not let 539 00:30:12,332 --> 00:30:13,862 the girls and Charlie know. 540 00:30:13,899 --> 00:30:15,939 He was really trying to divorce himself from that. 541 00:30:15,988 --> 00:30:17,638 He was really done with it. 542 00:30:17,685 --> 00:30:19,555 all: We want the Beach Boys! 543 00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:22,860 We want the Beach Boys! We want the Beach Boys! 544 00:30:25,911 --> 00:30:28,391 [dramatic music] 545 00:30:29,001 --> 00:30:36,051 ♪ 546 00:30:37,226 --> 00:30:41,836 - In 1967, '68 and '69, 547 00:30:43,015 --> 00:30:46,495 we had bigotry, racial prejudice. 548 00:30:46,540 --> 00:30:49,540 [all chanting] 549 00:30:49,586 --> 00:30:52,806 And there were race riots in every major American city. 550 00:30:53,416 --> 00:30:55,506 - The simple fact is this. 551 00:30:55,549 --> 00:30:59,069 We are in the worst crisis we have known since the Civil War. 552 00:30:59,118 --> 00:31:00,508 And time is running short 553 00:31:00,554 --> 00:31:02,774 to try to find some answers to it. 554 00:31:02,817 --> 00:31:07,167 [all singing] 555 00:31:07,213 --> 00:31:09,223 This was the image of the negro revolution 556 00:31:09,258 --> 00:31:11,168 only a few years ago. 557 00:31:11,217 --> 00:31:14,087 Negro and white, side by side. 558 00:31:14,133 --> 00:31:16,353 Patient negroes. 559 00:31:16,396 --> 00:31:19,176 The violence we saw was quite. 560 00:31:19,225 --> 00:31:21,175 We saw negroes hosed and beaten, 561 00:31:21,227 --> 00:31:22,917 harassed with dogs. 562 00:31:24,970 --> 00:31:28,360 Then, abruptly, shatteringly, the images were different. 563 00:31:28,408 --> 00:31:32,718 "Burn, baby, burn" drowned out "We shall overcome." 564 00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:36,590 ♪ 565 00:31:40,246 --> 00:31:42,636 - America is shocked and saddened 566 00:31:42,683 --> 00:31:48,433 by the brutal slaying tonight of Dr. Martin Luther King. 567 00:31:48,471 --> 00:31:54,831 I ask every citizen to reject the blind violence 568 00:31:54,869 --> 00:31:58,049 that has struck Dr. King. 569 00:31:58,090 --> 00:32:00,400 - When the racists shot Martin Luther King, 570 00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:02,750 the bullet that killed him killed non-violence. 571 00:32:02,790 --> 00:32:06,050 - During rebellions, brother, you got to stop looting 572 00:32:06,098 --> 00:32:07,748 and start shooting. 573 00:32:07,795 --> 00:32:08,925 Black power, brothers. 574 00:32:08,970 --> 00:32:10,670 - Black power! 575 00:32:10,711 --> 00:32:13,241 - Charlie Manson thought black people were inferior, 576 00:32:13,279 --> 00:32:15,319 but he also feared them. 577 00:32:15,368 --> 00:32:19,108 He began by being afraid of the black Muslims in prison. 578 00:32:19,154 --> 00:32:20,944 [all chanting] 579 00:32:20,982 --> 00:32:24,552 So what Charlie talks about is a race war's coming. 580 00:32:25,334 --> 00:32:29,084 - The call was for violence, and it filled the air, 581 00:32:29,121 --> 00:32:31,301 it seemed, everywhere. 582 00:32:31,819 --> 00:32:33,689 I saw myself reflected 583 00:32:33,734 --> 00:32:36,564 in the wildness of their hopes and stares. 584 00:32:39,305 --> 00:32:43,135 - We have been too non-violent! Too non-violent! 585 00:32:43,178 --> 00:32:45,788 - You are either for it or you are against it. 586 00:32:45,833 --> 00:32:50,753 - There is no such thing as a non-violent revolution! 587 00:32:51,273 --> 00:32:53,193 - He was convincing them, 588 00:32:53,232 --> 00:32:56,102 they were either gonna be murdered by the blacks, 589 00:32:56,148 --> 00:32:58,498 or the blacks would make them slaves. 590 00:32:58,541 --> 00:33:01,721 ♪ 591 00:33:02,545 --> 00:33:05,105 The problem for a guru is if you promise 592 00:33:05,157 --> 00:33:06,717 that some great thing is gonna happen 593 00:33:06,767 --> 00:33:09,377 and it doesn't, you've let down your followers. 594 00:33:09,422 --> 00:33:11,862 You don't have the magic after all. 595 00:33:11,902 --> 00:33:14,692 So you've got to do the sleight of hand. 596 00:33:15,123 --> 00:33:18,473 He's playing them the Beatles' "White Album" over and over, 597 00:33:18,518 --> 00:33:21,478 and "Hear the messages the Beatles are sending us." 598 00:33:21,521 --> 00:33:24,131 "Blackbird" works in very well, 599 00:33:24,176 --> 00:33:26,736 "Piggies" works in very well. 600 00:33:26,787 --> 00:33:28,307 Then there's the song, "Helter Skelter," 601 00:33:28,354 --> 00:33:30,054 coming down fast. 602 00:33:32,184 --> 00:33:36,494 One of Charlie's basic creeds is that there is no crime, 603 00:33:36,536 --> 00:33:40,406 there is no sin, that it's all just a game, 604 00:33:40,453 --> 00:33:42,503 and that God's getting ready 605 00:33:42,542 --> 00:33:45,502 to pull down the curtain on this game 606 00:33:45,545 --> 00:33:49,195 and start it over again with his chosen people. 607 00:33:49,940 --> 00:33:51,770 And that when Helter Skelter comes down, 608 00:33:51,812 --> 00:33:54,862 that the cities are gonna be mass hysteria, 609 00:33:54,902 --> 00:33:56,692 and that the beast will fall, 610 00:33:56,730 --> 00:33:58,560 and the black man will take over. 611 00:33:59,254 --> 00:34:01,524 ♪ 612 00:34:01,561 --> 00:34:03,521 - So what do you want to do? You want to die, 613 00:34:03,563 --> 00:34:05,523 or do you want to come with me and rule the world? 614 00:34:05,565 --> 00:34:07,045 [all chanting] 615 00:34:07,088 --> 00:34:11,218 ♪ 616 00:34:16,402 --> 00:34:19,102 - These communes undergo a metamorphosis 617 00:34:19,144 --> 00:34:21,064 as this kind of culture is established. 618 00:34:21,102 --> 00:34:24,632 I think it's rather benign, but as it continues on, 619 00:34:24,671 --> 00:34:27,111 I think the degree of criminality increases 620 00:34:27,152 --> 00:34:30,112 until the whole spectrum of criminal activity 621 00:34:30,155 --> 00:34:32,585 is ultimately a result. 622 00:34:32,940 --> 00:34:36,070 [indistinct chatter] 623 00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:41,210 - We'd been at Dennis's house. 624 00:34:41,253 --> 00:34:43,733 That had all, you know, ended. 625 00:34:43,777 --> 00:34:48,517 Dennis had moved out, and then we moved back to Spahn Ranch. 626 00:34:48,825 --> 00:34:51,645 And that's when things 627 00:34:51,698 --> 00:34:56,088 started going a little, little crazier. 628 00:34:59,793 --> 00:35:03,583 The recording thing had-- didn't go well with Dennis. 629 00:35:03,623 --> 00:35:06,763 And then they were still kind of dangling a carrot, 630 00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:10,280 you know, to make a record, and then that didn't happen. 631 00:35:10,325 --> 00:35:13,285 And after that, 632 00:35:13,328 --> 00:35:16,718 then all the energy was about getting money. 633 00:35:19,291 --> 00:35:21,771 We got introduced to the desert. 634 00:35:21,815 --> 00:35:24,595 Race war, the Helter Skelter was gonna take place, 635 00:35:24,644 --> 00:35:26,824 and that this was gonna be a hiding place. 636 00:35:26,863 --> 00:35:28,873 [uneasy music] 637 00:35:28,909 --> 00:35:32,429 Most of the people on the Earth would be gone, 638 00:35:32,478 --> 00:35:35,048 and so he wanted beautiful people 639 00:35:35,089 --> 00:35:38,139 to help repopulate and rule. 640 00:35:38,179 --> 00:35:39,569 [coyotes howling] 641 00:35:39,615 --> 00:35:43,175 And that's when I realized everything had changed. 642 00:35:43,228 --> 00:35:47,668 ♪ 643 00:35:47,710 --> 00:35:51,800 The Straight Satans, the motorcycle gang was involved, 644 00:35:51,845 --> 00:35:54,625 and there were knives, and there were guns. 645 00:35:54,674 --> 00:35:56,984 They were like a protection, 646 00:35:57,024 --> 00:36:00,854 and a provider of weapons. 647 00:36:04,031 --> 00:36:06,821 Danny DeCarlo was probably like the leader, 648 00:36:06,860 --> 00:36:11,650 or the most vocal and the most friendly with Charlie. 649 00:36:11,691 --> 00:36:13,651 - When did Charlie start to change. 650 00:36:13,693 --> 00:36:16,173 Initially he didn't like the guns. 651 00:36:16,217 --> 00:36:17,647 - A couple months, 652 00:36:17,697 --> 00:36:20,347 because at first he wasn't into it, you know? 653 00:36:21,222 --> 00:36:23,182 When I first went to the ranch, I brought everything. 654 00:36:23,224 --> 00:36:25,234 I brought my whole arsenal up. 655 00:36:25,270 --> 00:36:27,230 You know, I had three rifles, I had a couple of handguns, 656 00:36:27,272 --> 00:36:28,882 I brought a machine gun out there. 657 00:36:30,275 --> 00:36:31,885 He got that machine gun like John Wayne, 658 00:36:31,928 --> 00:36:33,188 spray that thing all over the place, 659 00:36:33,234 --> 00:36:35,024 and bullets went everywhere. 660 00:36:35,062 --> 00:36:36,722 It made him feel good. 661 00:36:38,065 --> 00:36:39,405 We had fun. 662 00:36:39,458 --> 00:36:41,328 We had fun shooting guns. 663 00:36:41,373 --> 00:36:43,383 Forgot about that. I did. 664 00:36:43,418 --> 00:36:44,768 - Who was the best shot? 665 00:36:44,811 --> 00:36:46,511 - Sadie. I'd say Sadie was. 666 00:36:46,552 --> 00:36:48,902 You know, firing the machine gun. 667 00:36:48,945 --> 00:36:50,555 - Did she get off on that? 668 00:36:50,599 --> 00:36:53,859 - Oh, everybody did. I did too, watching them. 669 00:36:53,907 --> 00:36:56,337 [chuckles] 670 00:36:56,388 --> 00:37:00,088 ♪ 671 00:37:01,219 --> 00:37:04,609 - Back at Spahn Ranch, now they're really building up 672 00:37:04,657 --> 00:37:08,527 this kind of army, you know, really, 673 00:37:08,574 --> 00:37:13,144 and trying to get money to fund guns and gas, 674 00:37:13,187 --> 00:37:16,357 and the different vehicles. 675 00:37:16,408 --> 00:37:22,888 ♪ 676 00:37:22,936 --> 00:37:25,236 [horse neighs] 677 00:37:34,339 --> 00:37:38,079 - Charlie sent word to Bobby, who was living in Hollywood, 678 00:37:38,125 --> 00:37:40,555 with his then-girlfriend Kitty Lutesinger, 679 00:37:40,606 --> 00:37:42,996 to come help us get protected. 680 00:37:43,043 --> 00:37:44,783 So Bobby came on the ranch, 681 00:37:44,827 --> 00:37:46,607 and he hung out with the bikers, 682 00:37:46,655 --> 00:37:48,435 and he got enthralled with them. 683 00:37:48,483 --> 00:37:51,573 He thought, you know, iron horses, freedom, 684 00:37:51,617 --> 00:37:54,707 so he wanted to be a prospect. 685 00:37:56,796 --> 00:37:59,756 - I really wanted to be a part of it, you know? 686 00:37:59,799 --> 00:38:04,629 I was a wannabe and I wanted to be accepted. 687 00:38:04,673 --> 00:38:07,113 I was building a bike, I liked the lifestyle. 688 00:38:07,154 --> 00:38:08,944 The whole motorcycle culture, 689 00:38:08,982 --> 00:38:12,462 the biker culture represented a kind of freedom 690 00:38:12,507 --> 00:38:14,767 that I longed for. 691 00:38:14,814 --> 00:38:18,644 I wanted to ingratiate myself with the club. 692 00:38:18,687 --> 00:38:20,687 And when I heard that they were looking 693 00:38:20,733 --> 00:38:22,783 to get some sort of party drug, 694 00:38:22,822 --> 00:38:26,002 I offered to, you know, score for them. 695 00:38:26,565 --> 00:38:28,645 The only guy I knew who might have anything 696 00:38:28,697 --> 00:38:31,307 that would have been of interest to them was Gary. 697 00:38:32,832 --> 00:38:35,792 After I left San Francisco and went to L.A., 698 00:38:35,835 --> 00:38:39,315 I met Gary Hinman, who was a friend of a friend. 699 00:38:40,274 --> 00:38:44,634 He let me rent for a very low rental fee 700 00:38:44,670 --> 00:38:47,890 the basement of his little house. 701 00:38:48,804 --> 00:38:51,074 He had a baby grand piano in the living room, 702 00:38:51,111 --> 00:38:54,851 which was also his bedroom and also his library. 703 00:38:55,420 --> 00:38:58,810 He did teach piano out at UCLA, 704 00:38:58,858 --> 00:39:01,508 played piano for a dance troupe. 705 00:39:03,689 --> 00:39:06,999 - Gary loved music. He loved books. 706 00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:09,870 He went on to pursue a master's program. 707 00:39:11,261 --> 00:39:15,531 His mother was very proud of his musical ability. 708 00:39:16,789 --> 00:39:19,359 He became involved with Buddhism, 709 00:39:19,792 --> 00:39:21,662 and he and his parents 710 00:39:21,707 --> 00:39:25,487 were going to go to Japan on a pilgrimage. 711 00:39:25,537 --> 00:39:27,837 His parents were paying for the trip. 712 00:39:27,887 --> 00:39:30,057 He did not have the money to do that. 713 00:39:31,717 --> 00:39:34,547 Gary was a gentle human being. 714 00:39:36,156 --> 00:39:39,026 - Gary wasn't like a real dealer by any means. 715 00:39:39,072 --> 00:39:40,682 He was just a guy who sometimes 716 00:39:40,726 --> 00:39:42,676 helped to make ends meet 717 00:39:42,728 --> 00:39:45,248 by selling a little bit of pot to his friends. 718 00:39:45,687 --> 00:39:48,077 Yeah, I did know that Gary had some mescaline 719 00:39:48,124 --> 00:39:50,084 and Straight Satans gave me some money 720 00:39:50,126 --> 00:39:51,686 to go score from Gary, 721 00:39:51,737 --> 00:39:54,087 and I went and got mescaline for them. 722 00:39:54,783 --> 00:39:57,963 It was a really stupid idea on my part 723 00:39:58,004 --> 00:40:00,144 that mescaline would be a good thing 724 00:40:00,180 --> 00:40:02,660 to give to some bikers for a party. 725 00:40:04,140 --> 00:40:08,140 They came back to me and confronted me, 726 00:40:08,188 --> 00:40:10,448 saying that they thought it was bunk. 727 00:40:10,495 --> 00:40:12,705 Some of the guys had gotten sick on it. 728 00:40:12,758 --> 00:40:15,108 If guys are drinking beer and popping red devils, 729 00:40:15,151 --> 00:40:17,241 they take mescaline on top of that, 730 00:40:17,284 --> 00:40:19,114 yeah, they're gonna get sick. 731 00:40:20,026 --> 00:40:23,246 They wanted to get their money back. 732 00:40:23,290 --> 00:40:26,250 [tense music] 733 00:40:26,293 --> 00:40:31,473 ♪ 734 00:40:33,300 --> 00:40:36,090 I thought I could just explain what the problem was, 735 00:40:36,129 --> 00:40:37,999 and he would give me the money back. 736 00:40:40,176 --> 00:40:43,916 Bruce and Danny drove me over, and Mary Brunner and Sadie 737 00:40:43,963 --> 00:40:45,833 asked me if they could come along, 738 00:40:45,878 --> 00:40:47,448 because they were friends of Gary's. 739 00:40:48,489 --> 00:40:51,799 Honestly, I didn't think it was gonna be a big deal. 740 00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:54,970 I had the gun because Bruce had given it to me. 741 00:40:55,017 --> 00:40:57,457 I guess Danny recommended that I take the gun, 742 00:40:57,498 --> 00:40:59,808 and that it'd be, you know, this sort of confrontation. 743 00:40:59,848 --> 00:41:01,498 I didn't see it that way, 744 00:41:01,546 --> 00:41:04,156 because I didn't see Gary that way. 745 00:41:05,245 --> 00:41:07,765 We talked about it, and I told him what had happened, 746 00:41:07,813 --> 00:41:10,473 and he says, "Well, Bobby, I don't have the money." 747 00:41:11,817 --> 00:41:14,117 He showed me his wallet and his checkbook. 748 00:41:14,167 --> 00:41:17,127 He had $57 in his checking account 749 00:41:17,170 --> 00:41:18,950 and a few bucks in his wallet. 750 00:41:18,998 --> 00:41:21,648 And then I was starting to get frantic. 751 00:41:22,523 --> 00:41:25,133 And so I did hit him with the gun a couple of times. 752 00:41:25,178 --> 00:41:28,218 I didn't hit him very hard. I'm just not that kind of guy. 753 00:41:28,268 --> 00:41:30,968 And that is exactly what Gary said to me. 754 00:41:31,010 --> 00:41:33,620 He says, "Bobby, this isn't you." 755 00:41:33,665 --> 00:41:35,795 You know, and I apologized. 756 00:41:35,841 --> 00:41:37,801 I said, "I just--I need to get something, Gary." 757 00:41:37,843 --> 00:41:39,853 I need to take something back to these guys." 758 00:41:41,194 --> 00:41:43,684 I needed to be able to look around the house 759 00:41:43,718 --> 00:41:46,368 for something that might be worth some money. 760 00:41:46,895 --> 00:41:49,895 I gave the gun to Sadie, told her, you know, 761 00:41:49,942 --> 00:41:53,342 like I'd seen done in cowboy movies as a kid, 762 00:41:53,380 --> 00:41:56,210 "If he moves, shoot him." 763 00:41:58,037 --> 00:42:01,997 Sadie had begun yelling that Gary had got the gun. 764 00:42:02,041 --> 00:42:04,351 I just immediately ran into the kitchen 765 00:42:04,391 --> 00:42:07,351 and saw Gary trying to turn the gun on me, 766 00:42:07,394 --> 00:42:09,534 and I just dove at him. 767 00:42:10,745 --> 00:42:12,355 I got my hands on the gun. 768 00:42:12,399 --> 00:42:16,579 As we were struggling, then the gun went off. 769 00:42:16,621 --> 00:42:20,581 ♪ 770 00:42:20,625 --> 00:42:22,185 In that instant, 771 00:42:22,235 --> 00:42:24,365 with both of us looking into each other's eyes, 772 00:42:24,411 --> 00:42:26,281 and I could see the same thing in his eyes, 773 00:42:26,326 --> 00:42:27,886 that were-- that I was feeling, 774 00:42:27,936 --> 00:42:31,026 which was, "I wonder if I've been shot." 775 00:42:31,070 --> 00:42:33,070 I was able to take the gun from him. 776 00:42:34,377 --> 00:42:36,897 We both calmed down. I put the gun away. 777 00:42:36,945 --> 00:42:40,165 And Gary and I sat down at the table again. 778 00:42:41,123 --> 00:42:44,433 We came to the solution that he would sign over 779 00:42:44,474 --> 00:42:49,224 the pink slips to his VW bus and that little jalopy. 780 00:42:49,262 --> 00:42:52,272 The two of them probably weren't worth 781 00:42:52,308 --> 00:42:55,268 what I was in debt to the bikers over. 782 00:42:55,311 --> 00:42:57,971 What I didn't know at the time 783 00:42:58,010 --> 00:43:01,750 was that one of the women had called the ranch. 784 00:43:01,796 --> 00:43:04,226 [phone rings] 785 00:43:04,277 --> 00:43:05,797 - The phone rang. 786 00:43:05,844 --> 00:43:08,244 There wasn't anybody else around, so I answered it. 787 00:43:08,281 --> 00:43:11,981 And it was Mary Brunner, and she said, "Get Charlie." 788 00:43:15,201 --> 00:43:18,641 - After Gary had given me the title to the two little cars, 789 00:43:18,683 --> 00:43:21,253 we were on cordial terms again. 790 00:43:21,294 --> 00:43:24,344 Call it water under the bridge and leave it behind. 791 00:43:26,212 --> 00:43:29,912 We became aware that someone was coming to the front door, 792 00:43:29,955 --> 00:43:32,345 and Gary went to answer it. 793 00:43:32,392 --> 00:43:36,092 And he opened the door, and said, "Hi, Charlie." 794 00:43:36,135 --> 00:43:38,345 And Charlie stepped into the front door 795 00:43:38,398 --> 00:43:39,788 and just slashed him across the face, 796 00:43:39,834 --> 00:43:42,144 not a word, without warning. 797 00:43:43,490 --> 00:43:46,540 I said, "Charlie, why did you do that?" 798 00:43:46,580 --> 00:43:51,280 And he said, exact words, "Showing you how to be a man." 799 00:43:51,324 --> 00:43:54,284 ♪ 800 00:43:54,327 --> 00:43:57,767 And then Bruce turned to Gary and says, "Where's the gun?" 801 00:43:57,809 --> 00:43:59,459 And I said, "I've got it." 802 00:43:59,506 --> 00:44:02,466 Bruce took the gun, as quick as they came, they left, 803 00:44:02,509 --> 00:44:05,159 and Charlie said, "Tell them to clean this mess up." 804 00:44:06,513 --> 00:44:07,693 Gary was bleeding. 805 00:44:07,732 --> 00:44:09,472 He was holding his hand up to his cheek, 806 00:44:09,516 --> 00:44:12,996 and maybe I was just horrified and Gary was horrified. 807 00:44:15,261 --> 00:44:18,481 I spent the next day with Gary. 808 00:44:18,525 --> 00:44:23,655 And I didn't know what the fuck to do at that point. 809 00:44:24,096 --> 00:44:28,006 I was getting increasingly desperate over the situation. 810 00:44:30,929 --> 00:44:32,669 So I called the ranch. 811 00:44:32,713 --> 00:44:34,853 [phone rings] 812 00:44:34,889 --> 00:44:36,409 And got Charlie on the phone and I said, 813 00:44:36,456 --> 00:44:39,196 "Man, you know, you created this problem, 814 00:44:39,241 --> 00:44:41,721 "and I need you to take it back, 815 00:44:41,766 --> 00:44:43,856 because I don't know what to do." 816 00:44:44,377 --> 00:44:46,377 And he said something to the effect, 817 00:44:46,422 --> 00:44:49,862 "You know what to do as well as I do," and hung up on me. 818 00:44:54,387 --> 00:44:58,257 And maybe a half hour later, I stabbed Gary to death. 819 00:45:09,576 --> 00:45:13,006 - He was found in the living room directly up here, 820 00:45:13,058 --> 00:45:15,838 and he was lying on his back with multiple stab wounds. 821 00:45:15,887 --> 00:45:17,847 He had been dead approximately one week 822 00:45:17,889 --> 00:45:20,719 at the time that he was found. 823 00:45:20,761 --> 00:45:23,591 After we entered the home, we saw signs of a struggle, 824 00:45:23,633 --> 00:45:26,253 and it appeared as though there had been a 825 00:45:26,941 --> 00:45:29,071 some degree of violence. 826 00:45:31,076 --> 00:45:33,206 I would never have killed a man had Charlie 827 00:45:33,252 --> 00:45:36,212 not come into Gary's home, slashed his face, 828 00:45:36,255 --> 00:45:39,945 and then left me there with that responsibility. 829 00:45:44,089 --> 00:45:46,739 I don't remember writing in blood on the wall. 830 00:45:46,787 --> 00:45:48,917 I don't know that I did that. 831 00:45:50,008 --> 00:45:52,448 I had always assumed it was me. 832 00:45:57,450 --> 00:46:02,670 - I had seen Bobby and Mary and Susan Atkins 833 00:46:02,716 --> 00:46:04,936 kind of huddled and whispering. 834 00:46:06,285 --> 00:46:08,235 The twinkle in his eye was gone. 835 00:46:08,287 --> 00:46:12,767 He looked scared and didn't look like Bobby. 836 00:46:12,813 --> 00:46:14,083 So I asked him, "What's wrong?" 837 00:46:14,119 --> 00:46:15,989 And he said, "Nothing." 838 00:46:16,034 --> 00:46:19,784 So, I said, "Okay." And I just kept on walking. 839 00:46:21,822 --> 00:46:23,912 [coyote howling] 840 00:46:23,955 --> 00:46:26,905 [uneasy music] 841 00:46:26,958 --> 00:46:29,608 ♪ 842 00:46:29,656 --> 00:46:33,176 - Bobby Beausoleil, in his stupidity, 843 00:46:33,225 --> 00:46:36,485 gets into the car of the murder victim, Gary Hinman, 844 00:46:36,532 --> 00:46:40,152 and he drives 120 miles to San Luis Obispo. 845 00:46:44,236 --> 00:46:49,456 - And drove off in Gary's car with the murder weapon. 846 00:46:49,502 --> 00:46:51,632 - It was very early in the morning. 847 00:46:51,678 --> 00:46:53,288 The car broke down. 848 00:46:53,332 --> 00:46:54,992 The engine was still smoking 849 00:46:55,029 --> 00:46:56,939 when the Highway Patrol car passed by. 850 00:46:56,988 --> 00:46:58,728 So I jumped into the back seat 851 00:46:58,772 --> 00:47:01,302 and pretended to be asleep. 852 00:47:01,340 --> 00:47:05,130 I didn't know what I thought that would do to help. 853 00:47:05,170 --> 00:47:06,610 - The highway patrolman discovered, 854 00:47:06,649 --> 00:47:10,129 it is the car of the murder victim, Gary Hinman. 855 00:47:10,175 --> 00:47:12,175 Mr. Beausoleil was arrested, 856 00:47:12,220 --> 00:47:14,960 accused of first-degree murder. 857 00:47:15,006 --> 00:47:17,006 [camera shutters clicking] 858 00:47:27,366 --> 00:47:30,756 - After the murder, Charlie leaves town. 859 00:47:31,326 --> 00:47:33,066 Things were getting too crazy in L.A. 860 00:47:33,111 --> 00:47:36,331 [gentle music] 861 00:47:36,375 --> 00:47:39,765 ♪ 862 00:47:39,813 --> 00:47:42,953 - When I met Charlie, I was 17 on a road trip. 863 00:47:44,557 --> 00:47:46,597 And we were on our way home, it was probably about, 864 00:47:46,646 --> 00:47:48,516 I don't know, 3:00 in the morning or something. 865 00:47:48,561 --> 00:47:50,781 We stopped for gas. 866 00:47:50,824 --> 00:47:53,134 I went to go to the bathroom. 867 00:47:54,045 --> 00:47:55,915 There was Charlie, 868 00:47:55,960 --> 00:47:57,400 and a couple of fellows, I think, 869 00:47:57,439 --> 00:48:00,089 that were just hitchhiking were with him as well. 870 00:48:04,577 --> 00:48:06,747 He said some things, like, "Well, what's a beautiful girl 871 00:48:06,796 --> 00:48:10,056 like you out here so late at night?" 872 00:48:10,104 --> 00:48:12,114 And in just a short period of time, 873 00:48:12,150 --> 00:48:13,190 he was able to tell me 874 00:48:13,238 --> 00:48:14,938 everything I ever wanted to hear. 875 00:48:14,979 --> 00:48:16,549 "I bet your dad doesn't really love you. 876 00:48:16,589 --> 00:48:19,239 I bet nobody really takes you seriously." 877 00:48:21,855 --> 00:48:23,935 And I was like, wow, you know? 878 00:48:23,988 --> 00:48:26,898 And I saw there was guitars in his van, 879 00:48:26,947 --> 00:48:29,077 and I thought, "This is neat." 880 00:48:29,341 --> 00:48:31,301 We were near Big Sur, 881 00:48:31,343 --> 00:48:34,043 and I had always wanted to see Big Sur. 882 00:48:34,085 --> 00:48:35,905 So I don't know what happened. 883 00:48:35,956 --> 00:48:38,916 I told the fellow that I was with, 884 00:48:38,959 --> 00:48:41,919 I said, "I'm gonna go with these guys." 885 00:48:41,962 --> 00:48:45,272 The attraction was just immediate. 886 00:48:45,313 --> 00:48:47,053 Yeah. 887 00:48:47,098 --> 00:48:54,238 ♪ 888 00:48:54,279 --> 00:48:57,499 We pulled up to the Esalen Institute. 889 00:48:57,543 --> 00:48:59,413 He took his guitar and he told me, 890 00:48:59,458 --> 00:49:02,238 "Stay in the van while I go in there 891 00:49:02,287 --> 00:49:04,937 and I'll be back in a little bit." 892 00:49:04,985 --> 00:49:08,025 So, okay, so I just waited. 893 00:49:12,993 --> 00:49:15,603 I think that he was thinking that they were gonna be 894 00:49:15,648 --> 00:49:18,608 really blown away by his talent, 895 00:49:18,651 --> 00:49:21,351 and, you know, his music abilities, 896 00:49:21,393 --> 00:49:24,573 and, you know, ask him to come back and possibly pay him. 897 00:49:26,876 --> 00:49:29,966 But, uh, they didn't. 898 00:49:32,360 --> 00:49:34,620 He was pretty upset when he came back. 899 00:49:34,667 --> 00:49:37,627 The fact that these people were not impressed 900 00:49:37,670 --> 00:49:40,980 with his talent made him angry. 901 00:49:43,241 --> 00:49:45,111 Put his guitar in the van, 902 00:49:45,156 --> 00:49:48,986 and hardly said, you know, two words, and off we went. 903 00:49:57,081 --> 00:49:59,691 When we met at the gas station, I said, 904 00:49:59,735 --> 00:50:01,905 "If I go to Big Sur with you, 905 00:50:01,955 --> 00:50:05,475 will you take me to San Diego to get my things?" 906 00:50:05,524 --> 00:50:08,274 And he promised me that he would. 907 00:50:09,441 --> 00:50:10,701 And he did. 908 00:50:18,363 --> 00:50:21,843 We spent a couple of hours with my sister 909 00:50:21,888 --> 00:50:25,848 and Charlie, and my sister's boyfriend, 910 00:50:25,892 --> 00:50:29,202 and I don't think they were happy. 911 00:50:29,635 --> 00:50:32,245 You know, they were on the outside looking in, 912 00:50:32,290 --> 00:50:34,340 and I don't think they were real glad 913 00:50:34,379 --> 00:50:38,769 that I was going with him, but nevertheless, I was, so. 914 00:50:41,212 --> 00:50:42,692 Basically, I didn't take much. 915 00:50:42,735 --> 00:50:46,735 A few clothes, my dog, and my guitar. 916 00:50:56,270 --> 00:50:58,190 When we pulled up to the ranch, 917 00:50:58,229 --> 00:50:59,709 everything was turned over. 918 00:50:59,752 --> 00:51:03,192 Any clothes that I brought went into a communal pile. 919 00:51:03,234 --> 00:51:05,634 My driver's license, any money I had, 920 00:51:05,671 --> 00:51:08,201 which was probably very, very little. 921 00:51:08,239 --> 00:51:10,109 Everything that we had went into, 922 00:51:10,154 --> 00:51:12,204 like a communal pot, 923 00:51:12,243 --> 00:51:14,383 and everybody just used whatever. 924 00:51:14,419 --> 00:51:17,419 Kind of gave up your identity, you know? 925 00:51:18,249 --> 00:51:21,729 ♪ 926 00:51:21,774 --> 00:51:24,654 [indistinct singing] 927 00:51:24,690 --> 00:51:30,740 ♪ 928 00:51:30,783 --> 00:51:35,963 - I asked Charlie, "Hey, do you know what's up with Bobby?" 929 00:51:36,005 --> 00:51:39,915 He said, "Yeah, he got busted in a dead man's car, 930 00:51:39,966 --> 00:51:41,746 and now he's in for murder." 931 00:51:41,794 --> 00:51:44,144 And I said, "Bobby?" 932 00:51:44,188 --> 00:51:47,408 And he kind of said it with disdain. 933 00:51:47,452 --> 00:51:49,762 And I said, "Well, what jail is he in? 934 00:51:49,802 --> 00:51:51,022 I'll go see him." 935 00:51:51,499 --> 00:51:53,459 And he said, "I've got this covered. 936 00:51:53,501 --> 00:51:55,501 You stay out of it." 937 00:51:56,287 --> 00:51:58,287 ♪ 938 00:52:04,164 --> 00:52:07,124 [uneasy music] 939 00:52:07,167 --> 00:52:13,867 ♪ 940 00:52:13,913 --> 00:52:16,663 - In my world, there is no wrong. 941 00:52:20,180 --> 00:52:22,840 You think that my mind is like your mind, but it isn't. 942 00:52:25,098 --> 00:52:28,148 This confusion belongs to you. It's your confusion. 943 00:52:32,061 --> 00:52:36,151 Living is what scares me. Dying is easy. 944 00:52:38,894 --> 00:52:40,854 - But there is something else here. 945 00:52:40,896 --> 00:52:45,676 We have known what Manson did without understanding why. 946 00:52:46,554 --> 00:52:49,644 - Charlie played a different role for each one of us. 947 00:52:49,688 --> 00:52:52,298 - We were everything to each other. 948 00:52:52,343 --> 00:52:54,823 - This wasn't what I signed up for. 949 00:52:54,867 --> 00:52:56,827 - These were America's children. 950 00:52:56,869 --> 00:53:00,529 - It was the '60s. It was a perfect storm. 951 00:53:00,568 --> 00:53:03,218 - People have been brainwashed to believe 952 00:53:03,267 --> 00:53:05,527 the real reason behind these murders 953 00:53:05,573 --> 00:53:07,533 was to start a race war. 954 00:53:08,576 --> 00:53:10,536 He said, "Will you die for me?" 955 00:53:11,971 --> 00:53:14,841 - Helter Skelter simply means confusion. 956 00:53:14,887 --> 00:53:20,937 ♪ 957 00:54:08,027 --> 00:54:10,247 - Greg, move your head. 958 00:54:14,947 --> 00:54:17,247 [lion roars] 73204

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