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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:00,840 --> 00:00:05,676 When the day comes when it is decided that the Crown Jewels 2 00:00:05,840 --> 00:00:09,799 will be exhibited, then all seven key holders have to meet. 3 00:00:10,480 --> 00:00:14,633 Well, one after the other unlock it, the doors open, 4 00:00:14,800 --> 00:00:17,440 they go upstairs into the Coronation Chamber and, 5 00:00:17,600 --> 00:00:22,629 in the safe is the placed Crown and other relics. 6 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:26,759 Even the safe has to be opened and it also has seven locks, 7 00:00:26,920 --> 00:00:31,630 thus, the ritual carries on, they each open the safe... 8 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:33,871 -Who? -Those seven people again, 9 00:00:34,560 --> 00:00:38,554 well: the archbishop, the President, 10 00:00:38,720 --> 00:00:41,599 Mayor of Prague, Prime Minister, 11 00:00:41,760 --> 00:00:43,797 Leader of Parliament, Chair of the Senate 12 00:00:44,440 --> 00:00:46,795 and the curate from the Holy Vitus Chapter. 13 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:48,874 And do you know who it was this year? 14 00:00:49,560 --> 00:00:53,599 Well everyone knows their political leaders. 15 00:00:57,680 --> 00:01:05,599 Charles IV. bought the Crown's most precious element - a relic. 16 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:08,593 Thorn from the crown of Jesus Christ. 17 00:01:08,760 --> 00:01:11,673 On his visit to France he got the thorn from the French King 18 00:01:11,840 --> 00:01:15,549 and placed it there in the middle of the sapphire cross, 19 00:01:15,720 --> 00:01:18,838 it was or still is hollow and there went the thorn. 20 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:22,518 When you look on the top of the cross, there in small writing. 21 00:01:22,680 --> 00:01:25,798 A Latin inscription - "Here is a thorn from His crown". 22 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:30,832 The precious thing he managed to acquire for our Royal Crown. 23 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:35,633 And we can say that you see it today as did Charles IV. 24 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:38,474 This Crown was the Coronation Crown. 25 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:43,669 Every ruler had borrow it from Saint Wenceslas for a coronation. 26 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:47,720 For it he had to pay two hundred pounds of silver and, then, 27 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:51,794 after the coronation ceremony had to return it to Stwenceslas. 28 00:01:52,440 --> 00:01:56,513 Whenever a ruler acted as a King then he had his own Crown. 29 00:01:56,680 --> 00:01:59,752 This one was solely for coronations, you understand? 30 00:02:00,440 --> 00:02:05,833 To Prague it came at the end of the sixties of the last century 31 00:02:06,520 --> 00:02:09,592 for the proposed coronation of Franz Joseph, unfortunately 32 00:02:09,760 --> 00:02:14,550 it did not take place and therefore it has stayed in Prague... 33 00:02:14,720 --> 00:02:17,519 What happened happened... 34 00:02:19,480 --> 00:02:24,634 First, in these lands there was the restoration of capitalism. 35 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:27,872 Please, come here... 36 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:33,589 Why do the heels of the Castle Guard click? 37 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:35,717 Have you something on your shoes? 38 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:39,714 -There is a kind of metal... -Show it to us. 39 00:02:39,880 --> 00:02:45,592 If it was capitalism like 150 years ago, 40 00:02:45,920 --> 00:02:48,799 then I would shrug my shoulders 41 00:02:49,480 --> 00:02:54,429 as I'd say there is time enough in two or three generations 42 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:59,470 people will learn and so on. But time flies something rotten. 43 00:02:59,640 --> 00:03:03,634 One badly walks with it... When ifs wet it's slippery. 44 00:03:03,800 --> 00:03:07,714 BOHEMIA DOCTA or LABYRINTH of the WORLD 45 00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:11,794 and HEARTS' PARADISE {DIVINE COMEDY} 46 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:17,714 Boot-metal raises the stamping. Changing the Guard must be heard. 47 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:25,593 According to tradition all meet up, open the door and go in. 48 00:03:25,760 --> 00:03:29,469 But, that Crown is, you know, still in the cupboard, 49 00:03:29,640 --> 00:03:33,713 there are the identical locks with those on the door, 50 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:35,791 they are again opened with those keys, 51 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:40,678 and there is then the case and inside the Crown. 52 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:45,596 In fact, that Crown is always kept in that leather case. 53 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:49,830 Nobody else is allowed to be right at that ritual. 54 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:53,916 -What ritual? -The opening of the doors. 55 00:03:59,880 --> 00:04:02,759 Action! 56 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:18,918 Al} of your life you will open up your thighs 57 00:04:21,440 --> 00:04:25,798 in order to fit in the wondrous mandarine, 58 00:04:27,880 --> 00:04:32,670 you'll sew your dress out of futility and guilt 59 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:39,795 in search of that wondrous mandarine. 60 00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:47,640 And in your head a rush of blood and in the eyes shadow of night 61 00:04:49,440 --> 00:04:54,514 yearning for the arrival of that wondrous mandarine. 62 00:04:56,480 --> 00:05:01,509 Many times you'll wish to turn the gas on 63 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:08,430 because again there's no wondrous mandarine. 64 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:15,595 Until exhausted at forty you'll be a gonner, 65 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:22,429 and know that life is just Gods absurd flow. 66 00:05:26,760 --> 00:05:30,754 Capitalism today, in which we are confronted, 67 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:33,758 isn't the capitalism of Marx's age. 68 00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:36,796 Karlétejn Castle - 69 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:42,872 smelly champignon from Karlétejn. 70 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:52,640 The worst of Marx's nightmares have come to pass. 71 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:58,512 That the class divisions of society will cease to exist. 72 00:05:58,680 --> 00:06:03,754 The proletariat, the ruling class 73 00:06:04,440 --> 00:06:09,674 and the government will be taken over by a global oligarchy 74 00:06:09,840 --> 00:06:13,515 which is what is happening throughout the nineties... 75 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:15,717 This doesn't belong here, 76 00:06:15,880 --> 00:06:19,589 have they got it agreed with someone like, no way, 77 00:06:20,560 --> 00:06:24,758 it doesn't belong here, put it somewhere else... 78 00:06:26,440 --> 00:06:33,471 To the amazement and surprise of non-Marxist theoreticians 79 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:36,792 starting with Derrida and ending with Rorty - 80 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:42,793 one of the first neo-liberal and neo-conservative thinkers in '70, 81 00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:48,469 he today writes that ifs all finished with us because 82 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:53,430 the greatest enemy to freedom and not only societal freedom 83 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:56,797 but human freedom, for the individual, 84 00:06:57,480 --> 00:07:01,519 is new liberalism which showed itself in the nineties 85 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:04,877 as the biggest danger in all of human history. 86 00:07:05,520 --> 00:07:10,549 And in his essay which was written some 2 years ago... 87 00:07:10,720 --> 00:07:15,749 "| can't any longer appeal much to you, parents, 88 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:19,470 you've reached forty, you've been absorbed by the system," 89 00:07:19,640 --> 00:07:22,678 turning towards the Western reader. 90 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:27,471 In America he began to threaten them and says: 91 00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:30,473 give your children only two books to read: 92 00:07:30,640 --> 00:07:35,430 the Gospel and Karl Marx's 'Communist Manifesto'. 93 00:07:35,600 --> 00:07:39,594 90% of people in Czecho are mushroom-pickers. 94 00:07:40,760 --> 00:07:43,559 It's not like that anywhere in the world. 95 00:07:44,520 --> 00:07:50,550 Rorty advised parents to give kids such reading material, 96 00:07:50,720 --> 00:07:54,873 then he argues that if those kids don't get to understand it 97 00:07:55,520 --> 00:08:00,720 they have no chance in the first half of the 21 st century. 98 00:08:00,880 --> 00:08:04,760 That it is the only self-defence - to learn it. 99 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:09,877 Well, and he is not the only one, in the West most people say it. 100 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:12,870 All in all they are non-Marxists, yeah. 101 00:08:13,520 --> 00:08:19,516 There is a new demand to begin to re-read Marx, because 102 00:08:19,680 --> 00:08:26,711 Marx analysed it way ahead that this disaster could happen. 103 00:08:26,880 --> 00:08:29,554 And the rule of this financial oligarchy. 104 00:08:29,720 --> 00:08:33,714 It's no longer a class, American journalists counted that 105 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:37,430 physically it's 40,000 people, 106 00:08:37,600 --> 00:08:42,515 with their relatives way back it's not more than a million 107 00:08:42,680 --> 00:08:45,433 and in the world there are over six billion people, 108 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:48,911 but Marx claims that classes and a class war exist 109 00:08:49,560 --> 00:08:53,838 only after the one revolution which he accepts in history 110 00:08:54,520 --> 00:08:56,796 and that is the introduction of machine production 111 00:08:57,480 --> 00:09:00,871 which is tied up with the capitalist mode of production. 112 00:09:01,520 --> 00:09:04,831 Before there weren't classes according to Marx 113 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:13,433 and, thus, no class warfare and no revolutions 114 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:18,595 and says: were getting where we have no classes and class war. 115 00:09:18,760 --> 00:09:22,833 It's only a characteristic which is valid 116 00:09:23,480 --> 00:09:28,429 during the period of the capitalist production process. 117 00:09:28,600 --> 00:09:34,869 And when those classes and the class war are abolished, 118 00:09:35,560 --> 00:09:41,476 not by going over to socialism, that is to a just society, 119 00:09:41,640 --> 00:09:45,429 then an oligarchic government will be created 120 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:52,916 which will imitate some elements of social attainments, 121 00:09:53,560 --> 00:09:59,636 but in reality it will be, as J.L0ndon said, the "iron heel". 122 00:09:59,800 --> 00:09:59,936 Marx, of course, hadn't yet read Jack London. 123 00:09:59,960 --> 00:10:03,840 Marx, of course, hadn't yet read Jack London. 124 00:10:05,520 --> 00:10:09,639 And what we have here today is comparable only 125 00:10:09,800 --> 00:10:13,555 to the era of the last three centuries of the Roman Empire 126 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:20,558 when the ratio of the ruling class sank to 1 %. 127 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:27,877 Those steps which globalisers in that Brussels HQ, 128 00:10:28,520 --> 00:10:31,672 plan, they are, all in all, steps 129 00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:37,438 which are supposed to ensure society's stability 130 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:40,672 on the basis of a drastic decrease in population. 131 00:10:40,840 --> 00:10:45,630 Sure, nice, sensible and rational from their point of view but 132 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:48,713 the question remains in what form they intend to do it. 133 00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:52,831 It's a terreeble time, terreeble day 134 00:10:53,480 --> 00:10:57,439 in the Acropolis at midnight transformed, 135 00:10:57,600 --> 00:11:01,594 we're experiencing a sad day, the last day 136 00:11:01,760 --> 00:11:05,799 of the first comeback of the group "The Plastic People". 137 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:08,756 -Long live Magor! -Ladies and gentlemen, 138 00:11:08,920 --> 00:11:13,630 on the guitar playing for you Pepa Karafiat - Joe Carnation - 139 00:11:19,680 --> 00:11:23,514 they're going to play tomorrow, didn't want to tell you - 140 00:11:24,480 --> 00:11:27,632 at the drums sits Honza Brabec, 141 00:11:31,760 --> 00:11:37,790 on the saxophone, wilgo Ségo, plays Vratislay - Viétta, 142 00:11:41,920 --> 00:11:46,471 on the viola Jiff - [Kéba, 143 00:11:49,520 --> 00:11:56,836 behind the keyboards sits Pepe Janiéek namely Pepa 144 00:11:57,480 --> 00:12:02,634 and on the bass-guitar we have the Leader - Founder of the band 145 00:12:02,800 --> 00:12:04,677 Milan 'Mejia' Hlavsa. 146 00:12:04,840 --> 00:12:06,911 He's like Sabina - traitor to the nation. 147 00:12:07,560 --> 00:12:10,473 The role of Sabina in The Bartered Bride is unknown to me. 148 00:12:10,640 --> 00:12:15,430 It is Karel Sabina and it is Bond y. They are different, 149 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:18,752 slightly different roles - even, so, they are very similar. 150 00:12:19,680 --> 00:12:23,719 One could say that Bond y is the Sabina of the Czech underground. 151 00:12:23,880 --> 00:12:28,636 I mean that he had some ties to that Secret Police. 152 00:12:33,680 --> 00:12:36,798 Diabetes, gentlemen, is the bane of those with stage-fright. 153 00:12:38,600 --> 00:12:40,637 And on this illustrious day 154 00:12:40,800 --> 00:12:44,794 Ivan Magor Jirous had the honour to act as compere. 155 00:12:45,600 --> 00:12:47,477 Amen. 156 00:13:11,680 --> 00:13:15,674 Architect Max Urban built the Film Studios Barrandov {1932}. 157 00:13:15,840 --> 00:13:19,754 Tower and both wings was and remains Phoenix the bird. 158 00:13:29,480 --> 00:13:32,677 When one's twenty 159 00:13:35,680 --> 00:13:39,674 one needs with horror to empty, 160 00:13:42,600 --> 00:13:46,594 but those who're forty 161 00:13:49,520 --> 00:13:53,639 need to puke up plenty... 162 00:13:53,920 --> 00:13:58,471 According to great thinkers we have it, that Phoenix dies 163 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:02,634 and comes again, when five hundredth year comes near. 164 00:14:02,800 --> 00:14:05,679 Dante Alighieri: Divine Comedy 165 00:14:09,640 --> 00:14:12,792 When Gods battle... saviour of the Arts. 166 00:14:13,480 --> 00:14:16,598 -Zbynék Fiéer... -Egon Bond y. 167 00:14:16,760 --> 00:14:21,880 Alfons Mucha - twenty paintings, eighteen years of work. 168 00:14:22,560 --> 00:14:26,793 And when he finished, then no-one was interested in him. 169 00:14:27,480 --> 00:14:28,914 Is anyone interested in you? 170 00:14:29,560 --> 00:14:35,431 Let me put my teeth back in. They're keen on me, no fear, 171 00:14:35,600 --> 00:14:37,750 -mainly the young ones. -You what'? 172 00:14:43,600 --> 00:14:47,559 -The Government fell. -Got toppled. 173 00:14:47,720 --> 00:14:53,432 Those key figures responsible for the Government's downfall, 174 00:14:53,600 --> 00:14:55,830 which means Pilip, Ruml... 175 00:14:56,480 --> 00:15:00,678 No, Ruml is unimportant, above all Lux, Havel 176 00:15:00,840 --> 00:15:04,754 and, of course, Pilip who is enormously ambitious 177 00:15:05,440 --> 00:15:07,829 still supposedly spurred on by his wife, 178 00:15:09,480 --> 00:15:11,517 and Ruml who is naive 179 00:15:11,680 --> 00:15:15,514 and who is also steered from behind by his father. 180 00:15:15,680 --> 00:15:19,878 That was the gang. But Ruml, I'd say, was the last in on the act. 181 00:15:20,520 --> 00:15:23,558 It was agreed between Pilip and Lux, of course, 182 00:15:23,720 --> 00:15:28,840 and between Lux and the President. 183 00:15:29,520 --> 00:15:32,831 A Govt. was being put in place for the following Wednesday 184 00:15:33,480 --> 00:15:35,551 and all was supposed to have gone very quickly. 185 00:15:35,720 --> 00:15:39,429 Than ks to the fact that they misjudged Klaus 186 00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:43,673 because Klaus is a fighter and he didn't just fold. 187 00:15:43,840 --> 00:15:47,470 He complicated the situation and we got where we are today. 188 00:15:47,640 --> 00:15:50,792 -Here is Aleé, the painter. -No. 189 00:15:51,440 --> 00:15:54,796 That's my landlord, MrMacek. Looks like him exactly. 190 00:15:55,440 --> 00:15:58,831 You said that you're making some statue right now. 191 00:15:59,480 --> 00:16:02,757 Well now, I've finished it in fact, it's in a cast. 192 00:16:02,920 --> 00:16:06,879 It's working title is "Person changing into an aeroplane" 193 00:16:07,560 --> 00:16:10,632 and I'm trying to pour it into indian rubber. 194 00:16:10,800 --> 00:16:15,920 Is the person turning into a plane in a form of relationship 195 00:16:16,560 --> 00:16:21,509 -with what's going on here? -No, probably not - I think not. 196 00:16:21,680 --> 00:16:27,517 Those statues note what is going on in Bohemia, created in 1990 197 00:16:27,680 --> 00:16:30,672 when they were intoxicated by the new situation, 198 00:16:30,840 --> 00:16:34,515 we were intoxicated by the fact that something was happening. 199 00:16:34,680 --> 00:16:39,800 But today the work I create is rather reacting on generalities, 200 00:16:40,440 --> 00:16:45,799 how people are changing, their position in nature, 201 00:16:45,880 --> 00:16:49,589 how their shape is changing. 202 00:16:50,800 --> 00:16:54,759 I keep reminding myself more and more 203 00:16:54,800 --> 00:16:57,679 that the human is not the centre of the Universe. 204 00:16:57,720 --> 00:17:01,839 That the human is only a link in the chain of a great community 205 00:17:01,880 --> 00:17:05,839 and that the role which it usurps is too rash. 206 00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:10,838 That is why all those power struggles seem to me, so, petty 207 00:17:11,480 --> 00:17:14,598 and I try to find in them mainly some personal courage, 208 00:17:14,760 --> 00:17:19,709 equality and lack of deceit. 209 00:17:19,880 --> 00:17:24,670 We are illogically floundering, like around those graves. 210 00:17:24,840 --> 00:17:30,756 I am making a film about rising from the dead, 211 00:17:31,440 --> 00:17:37,516 I am waiting for the people to rise again from the dead, 212 00:17:37,680 --> 00:17:44,552 I want to fill the whole of Prague and Bohemia with them. 213 00:17:44,720 --> 00:17:47,838 As Zépotocky says, new fighters will arise... 214 00:17:48,480 --> 00:17:53,793 Fyodorov, who was a friend of Ciolkovski, invented this 215 00:17:54,480 --> 00:17:58,519 and said that everybody, all of us would go into Outer Space. 216 00:17:58,680 --> 00:18:04,471 And now I just cannot imagine that I would open up some graves 217 00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:07,678 and someone would climb out with make-up and haunt. 218 00:18:07,840 --> 00:18:11,674 -It would be kind of sweet.. -Lately, I imagine that... 219 00:18:11,840 --> 00:18:18,473 -When I am here with you... -So, I rise like a zombie... 220 00:18:18,640 --> 00:18:21,553 We have already risen, already not been here, because 221 00:18:21,720 --> 00:18:26,590 all those people who live have already also risen, you see? 222 00:18:26,760 --> 00:18:31,675 -No. I don't understand this. -I also don't... 223 00:18:31,720 --> 00:18:36,510 Actually I do because I cannot imagine that someone 224 00:18:36,680 --> 00:18:41,629 puts make-up on us in fifty years time, that we're worth it, 225 00:18:41,800 --> 00:18:44,713 and chases us around the graveyard. 226 00:18:45,800 --> 00:18:50,795 You lived next door to Mr.Zeman. When I realised this 227 00:18:51,480 --> 00:18:58,432 I understood why you kind of attack the Social Democrats so. 228 00:18:58,600 --> 00:19:01,831 Not in the same house, just down the street. 229 00:19:02,520 --> 00:19:04,431 But the fact remains that we frequented the same pub. 230 00:19:04,600 --> 00:19:08,753 The landlord said to Mr. Zeman who was putting himself about 231 00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:11,875 and demanded a table when they were all taken 232 00:19:12,560 --> 00:19:14,870 and he told him: 'Mr.Zeman,' careful, 233 00:19:15,560 --> 00:19:17,517 it doesn't end up like at the old communist pub. 234 00:19:17,680 --> 00:19:21,560 And think that it might well end up 235 00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:25,793 like that if this dinosaur got to lead this nation. 236 00:19:26,440 --> 00:19:33,471 I think he is very interesting but a dinosaur as well. 237 00:19:33,640 --> 00:19:36,837 I perceive him as an interesting specimen in the context of a ZOO, 238 00:19:37,520 --> 00:19:39,636 but not as part of the Government. 239 00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:47,514 You love Mr.Klaus and fight for him with all your soul... 240 00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:51,560 It's not a question of love. I like people 241 00:19:51,720 --> 00:19:55,873 who are clever and intelligent and committed. 242 00:19:56,560 --> 00:19:59,936 Apart from Klaus, one who is not popular at all - 243 00:19:59,960 --> 00:20:00,631 Apart from Klaus, one who is not popular at all - 244 00:20:00,800 --> 00:20:04,589 Miroslav Macek. I consider him to be an intelligent person 245 00:20:04,760 --> 00:20:07,593 who is capable of expressing himself clearly, and reflect. 246 00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:10,434 I don't like political bullshit... 247 00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:16,550 -You hate Havel in some way. -It's not a question of hate. 248 00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:20,475 I simply think that he has fulfilled his role, 249 00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:23,837 that now he is not completely sane and that 250 00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:28,713 something that was kept under the lid has come to the surface 251 00:20:28,880 --> 00:20:31,759 which means that he is behaving hysterically, unjustly, 252 00:20:31,920 --> 00:20:37,438 insolently, sometimes even immorally and unreasonably. 253 00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:40,479 He loves the taste of power and likes to show it. 254 00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:45,840 And now imagine that I think that Kniiék is a great painter. 255 00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:49,552 -And now it seems to me... -You're probably the only one. 256 00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:53,793 Heck no, I am convinced about it. And that's one thing. 257 00:20:54,440 --> 00:20:58,593 Another is that you keep saying such terrible things that, 258 00:20:58,760 --> 00:21:04,676 in fact, in a certain sense they are comical, you get me? 259 00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:08,595 It seems the humour you have in your statues and paintings, 260 00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:12,474 that that humour remains even in your comments. 261 00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:20,640 So, when I hear it I partly seem to feel that you eliminate 262 00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:26,796 that certain part of absurdity within your thought 263 00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:29,795 with your pronunciation... 264 00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:33,598 Hm, well I've finished it in fact. That statue is cast. 265 00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:36,559 The working name is "Person changing into an aeroplane", 266 00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:39,599 and now I'm trying to cast it in india-rubber. 267 00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:44,596 -Even the intensity you say it. -I don't think that is quite so. 268 00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:48,515 I consider that seriousness is dangerous 269 00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:51,672 and seriousness isn't at all serious. 270 00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:54,673 If seriousness, age, and wisdom doesn't 271 00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:58,629 contain a grain of craziness, a grain of humour, 272 00:21:58,800 --> 00:22:01,599 something, which goes against what a person is saying then 273 00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:04,718 his expression has no validity. 274 00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:08,874 Thus, in my comments there is always some contradiction, but 275 00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:12,632 the fact that I consider Havel to be a bad President and 276 00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:15,679 that Zeman in government is for me unacceptable, 277 00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:17,558 I believe that is deadly serious. 278 00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:19,836 And I am prepared to dig a hole and swear to it. 279 00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:24,639 Just think that some people were saying Kniiék for President. 280 00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:27,838 Sure, that's brilliant. 281 00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:33,639 I would make a self-portrait as a pigmy in order for it to fit 282 00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:37,475 or I'd be there together with Havel, such a statue I'd create. 283 00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:40,712 Well, when some people say it then I would mind, 284 00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:43,838 but when you say it I do not mind because 285 00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:49,554 there is always that geyser of some jollity. 286 00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:51,597 Well, a person mustn't take himself seriously. 287 00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:53,876 When a person starts to think of himself seriously, 288 00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:57,512 how super or how stupid it would be 289 00:22:57,680 --> 00:23:00,479 if I became the President then I'd consider myself an ass. 290 00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:03,751 One can't talk or think of these things in all seriousness. 291 00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:07,671 Everything in life is necessary to take and make something of it. 292 00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:09,751 If it came I suppose I would take it seriously but 293 00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:13,475 a human being cannot self-adore oneself ahead of time. 294 00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:17,599 You can't say, I am terribly sad or terribly happy from it. 295 00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:21,674 No. Shit. I am normal in relation to it, take the mickey 296 00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:24,480 and even take that seriously and don't stress to it too much. 297 00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:28,554 It's necessary to understand life that way and no other. 298 00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:30,592 Do you comprehend? 299 00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:37,871 I wanted to say, if you play Smetana, you'll be kinder... 300 00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:44,438 -I like to play Smetana. -So greedy of that sensitive... 301 00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:46,637 Would you like me to play Smetana, a little bit... 302 00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:48,916 No, I don't want it, but... 303 00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:19,919 You don't want that. 304 00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:25,834 Dear Deputy, we will pour petrol over it. 305 00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:29,559 Let's move it so, we do not blow up! 306 00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:36,559 TRY IT WITH ME 307 00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:39,712 -You still want me to play nice. -Even nicer... 308 00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:43,635 -You're such a romantic, -I am not a romantic. 309 00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:48,513 I should play nice when I am such a naughty person. 310 00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:51,798 You are not naughty, you have soul, but... 311 00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:59,439 Look, I am curious how successful we can be. 312 00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:02,553 It will crack right away when you let the water run on it. 313 00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:06,551 I think it is a great difference. 314 00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:11,510 You want Smetana, then, wait if I don't come up with something... 315 00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:34,711 That's not Smetana. 316 00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:40,517 No, on top of it all - stuffed with velvet... 317 00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:46,514 -And you don't want Dvofék'? -Enough. 318 00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:49,637 Forget Smetana. 319 00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:58,438 Dear friends, allow me to greet you personally 320 00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:03,436 and read you a letter which was written for this occasion 321 00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:07,719 for the guests of the Café Slavie 322 00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:10,440 by the President of the Republic. 323 00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:13,752 Dear friends, respected guests, 324 00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:17,879 today's opening of the Café Slavie, one of the spaces 325 00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:22,912 which also for me, in my life, played an absolutely vital role, 326 00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:25,676 I discern as a step towards a renewal 327 00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:29,720 of the natural structuralisation of Czech spiritual life. 328 00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:33,760 I take it to be as a perhaps unostentatious but, at its core, 329 00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:39,514 a deeply symbolic way to remind ourselves of today's anniversary. 330 00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:42,877 On an absolutely personal basis I discern it 331 00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:47,758 also as a small victory of sense over stupidity. 332 00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:53,550 I dare to say with conceit that I feel it to be also my success. 333 00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:58,509 I wish you a pleasant evening and particularly wish all of us 334 00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:01,479 that Slavie again becomes a crossroads 335 00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:06,874 of Prague and Czech spiritual cultural and social flow 336 00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:11,798 and not just another meeting- place for suspicious mafias. 337 00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:17,674 It depends on you. If you visit regularly they won't. 338 00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:19,592 I am looking forward 339 00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:22,798 when my health allows me to sit at a table by the window 340 00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:26,632 and observe passers-by and straighten my thoughts. 341 00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:28,837 Yours, Véclav Havel. 342 00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:38,514 I can say it now properly. 343 00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:42,674 Sometimes it happens that within one a twin is born 344 00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:45,878 and that twin begins to exit from that person, 345 00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:51,640 maybe a feetie, ear or maybe a nose grows on the back. 346 00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:57,595 To future novices of mechanical engineering to plant 347 00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:01,549 into our souls and hearts the seed of revisionism. 348 00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:07,477 -This is anti-dogmatic thinking. -Thank you, that's a compliment. 349 00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:12,760 And I recognised the anti-dogmatism there, 350 00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:16,512 anti-stalinism I recognised there and, thereby, 351 00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:19,752 became a Marxist and an oppositionist straight away. 352 00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:22,670 Hi, Marxist. 353 00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:30,830 He holds full responsibility... 354 00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:35,838 He's some kind of a split personality 355 00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:38,835 among us a person who is moreover two... 356 00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:44,432 Such physiological schizophrenia. 357 00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:48,833 When those twins are equal he won't realise he has one inside. 358 00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:58,600 I wanted to say that at the end of the last film "What to do?" 359 00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:03,436 MLJirous who claims that the Czech nation cannot be helped 360 00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:05,876 unless it mixes together in with the Romanies. 361 00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:11,833 It is simply laughable, but also true. 362 00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:16,593 Because mixing should not be a steam-roller, 363 00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:21,550 people should not be happy with being the same, 364 00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:26,513 but united by their difference. 365 00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:31,675 That all we know we listen to from within ourselves, 366 00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:34,559 by which we are not listening to the Ego but 367 00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:41,433 listening to something beyond archetypal subconsciousness, 368 00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:47,790 and when it functions then it makes sense for other people and 369 00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:51,598 something is created what wasn't here previously. 370 00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:56,675 Whereas everything else, even if it's from that subconscious, 371 00:29:56,840 --> 00:29:59,936 from some repressed sexuality or what, then really it's working 372 00:29:59,960 --> 00:30:00,791 from some repressed sexuality or what, then really it's working 373 00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:04,791 only with what's here a combination of what is here. 374 00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:09,911 Well, ifs in fact waiting like those Romanies and even 375 00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:12,631 we are waiting for the birth of a nation and 376 00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:17,590 we both, them and us, wait for our re-birth. 377 00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:20,798 Their complete nation has a clearly-defined culture, 378 00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:23,909 we don't have any clear culture if we compare it. 379 00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:27,632 Well, we do have a clearly-defined culture... 380 00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:29,598 We have ours nicked from all over the place, 381 00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:32,559 they have nothing that's stolen, they've got their original one. 382 00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:34,836 We understand their original culture but we don't theirs. 383 00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:37,716 Smetana is original, Comenius is original, 384 00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:41,475 Haéek is original and 'The Plastic People'... 385 00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:46,796 That's difficult to oppose. 386 00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:59,831 Oh, what anguish and agony, 387 00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:04,878 the constipation of my gross favourings. 388 00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:18,720 It is like the birth of a nation, it seems to me. 389 00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:25,549 -What did you mean? -I wanted... 390 00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:35,637 I wanted to tell you that this meeting is a picture 391 00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:42,797 of the disunity and arguments of all the difficulties 392 00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:51,480 and successes we have attained - nobody has evaluated that yet 393 00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:58,549 because the meeting here between Romanies is traditionally 394 00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:02,679 full of disagreement and disunity, and that is harmful. 395 00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:08,631 Indisputably because it will do harm in the Romany community. 396 00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:15,675 Well, isn't that disunity built into the Romany mentality, 397 00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:19,435 in that you do not create institutions and 398 00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:23,639 you are important because you don't actually form them. 399 00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:26,838 You don't create some sneaky small family, yeah, 400 00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:29,750 you create a large family which does not have much sense 401 00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:33,876 and is self-destructive but it has some sense. 402 00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:38,756 What kind of sense my dear director. 403 00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:41,673 -Well, I do not know. -Well, then I will tell you. 404 00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:43,751 You have heard of those self-managing units, 405 00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:48,517 of all that decentralisation, you've heard of that trend? 406 00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:54,631 W.Europe is going down the road of decentralisation, self-govt. 407 00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:56,916 Well, but we've already had 2,000 years of some kind 408 00:32:57,560 --> 00:33:00,632 of natural self-government behind us. There lies the sense. 409 00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:04,714 -Exactly... -It is encoded in us, 410 00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:08,714 if we take into account that we are in an industrial society, 411 00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:12,874 simply that society has certain ties, ifs no longer possible 412 00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:16,592 to lead a nomadic way of life, steal chickens and shoot rabbits, 413 00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:18,910 then we have to feed ourselves somehow. 414 00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:22,791 We have to join the institutions 'cos we won't survive... 415 00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:25,829 And find the sources how to extricate it from that society. 416 00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:29,438 Those chickens and rabbits. 417 00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:34,753 They lived on the land of the Count from Kounice. 418 00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:39,792 And that one stole horses and smuggled them across... 419 00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:43,717 I was too small, well, but I have parents, 420 00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:48,431 mother stole chickens, that was the life, we travelled... 421 00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:50,830 Here is the Chairman of the Oles Romanies, 422 00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:53,909 You're delegates to this conference 423 00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:59,430 which should turn some Romany associations into State entities. 424 00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:02,433 We are Olas Romanies. 425 00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:04,830 They want those horses back which got taken from them. 426 00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:09,639 Well, they gave us nothing, took us about seventy horses, 427 00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:13,555 never got anything paid and the communists took it by force, 428 00:34:13,720 --> 00:34:16,439 you know even the wagons and caravans... 429 00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:18,557 Didn't give them a penny. 430 00:34:18,720 --> 00:34:22,554 I have put in a claim but nothing positive so far... 431 00:34:22,720 --> 00:34:26,839 You have the feeling that you have to move around? 432 00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:30,717 Well, that is the tradition of the Olas Romanies but 433 00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:33,793 the twentieth century has changed it a lot. 434 00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:38,474 Our forebears have died but 435 00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:41,553 we young ones go with the modern age. 436 00:34:41,720 --> 00:34:43,597 But they would want... 437 00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:49,870 Those caravans which they took by force, commies, like... 438 00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:55,594 It is a viable way of life to move from place to place. 439 00:34:55,760 --> 00:35:00,596 It is the best, an adventurous way of life... 440 00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:05,592 They want to steal horses again... 441 00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:14,510 They forced us to stop travelling 442 00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:19,516 which led the Olas community to a criminal way of life. 443 00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:24,595 Before, the only criminality the Olas engaged in was 444 00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:27,479 that in a village a chicken went astray. 445 00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:30,473 Because they were forcibly accommodated and domiciled 446 00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:34,554 they started to pickpocket and other criminality followed. 447 00:35:34,720 --> 00:35:37,838 Before that they were craftsmen, horse-handlers and such, 448 00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:40,790 and earned a living differently than they are doing today. 449 00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:44,472 So, the consequences of the ending of a nomadic way of life 450 00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:46,631 was great and deeply-felt. 451 00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:49,838 The spokesman of the Olas Romanies will give you the rest. 452 00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:52,551 Really they would not want to steal horses any more but 453 00:35:52,720 --> 00:35:56,429 back then they stole them and sold them on... 454 00:35:57,640 --> 00:35:59,631 Throw it away and we have a jar. 455 00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:06,911 Well, and I am now, come dear Deputy - I am...O.K.. 456 00:36:11,720 --> 00:36:17,910 I have brought this photo, I talked about it before 457 00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:26,598 I can put the photo inside and... 458 00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:30,713 -And burn it. -No, I won't set light to it. 459 00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:35,750 -I don't get it. -I have Comenius done like this. 460 00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:39,751 What are you dissolving? I simply do not... 461 00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:44,514 Just look at it, what it has done, the water destroys it. 462 00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:47,832 -Castle at Velké Mezifiéi. -The water destroys it. 463 00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:54,634 I'll go nuts. I won't manage to even do it as I wanted. 464 00:36:56,440 --> 00:36:59,796 I am totally at a loss. 465 00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:03,676 Karel, come and have a look... 466 00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:06,753 Shaggy Mane. 467 00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:28,509 You are the father of Semtex. They say. 468 00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:32,913 Well, it's not quite like that, father of Semtex. 469 00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:38,509 It's a murderous thing, terrorists bring planes down... 470 00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:41,877 That's what the media thinks, journalists 471 00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:47,760 who simply like to do such a media story. 472 00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:53,552 By the way, Semtex, in fact, that it is called Semtex 473 00:37:53,720 --> 00:37:58,794 is that it was meant for industrial purposes... 474 00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:01,750 Come, let's sit down. 475 00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:10,754 Semtex does not even have to be an explosive at all, 476 00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:15,752 that's a marking for explosives, under water, 477 00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:21,791 for breaking-up of large boulders in quarries. 478 00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:26,832 And the govt. came to realise that it could be sent to Libya, 479 00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:29,676 so, it gave it over to those terrorists. 480 00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:33,799 Not exactly... 481 00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:36,875 Plastic explosive under the name of SEMTEX 482 00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:39,716 was introduced in 1963 or, 483 00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:44,477 rather, definitely with that name in 1965. 484 00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:50,591 One version of what was originally a military explosive 485 00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:53,878 was freed for civilian use. 486 00:38:56,480 --> 00:39:01,429 Don't read newspapers, don't have a TV nor a radio. 487 00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:08,836 So, I learn about the world with a two or three week delay 488 00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:10,874 when someone tells me something. 489 00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:16,435 But non-fiction I, of course, follow closely. 490 00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:19,752 -You don't want to be informed? -What use is it'? 491 00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:23,550 But your friends say that you're an émigré right now. 492 00:39:23,720 --> 00:39:28,476 Ha, ha, an émigré surely not, 493 00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:32,629 they probably got confused when I said that I am an exile. 494 00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:34,473 And that is... 495 00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:40,830 It's that I've abandoned my flat 496 00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:46,549 and moved a block away 497 00:39:46,720 --> 00:39:50,679 where a friend left me an empty flat because 498 00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:56,791 the traffic there got so bad at 51 Nerudova, golden times, 499 00:39:57,480 --> 00:39:59,936 -so you could not work there. -You intend to go to Serbia. 500 00:39:59,960 --> 00:40:01,553 -So you could not work there. -You intend to go to Serbia. 501 00:40:01,720 --> 00:40:08,877 I've applied for a visa which I got, that was about a month ago, 502 00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:14,634 then they didn't give them to individuals or tourists. 503 00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:19,431 I dreamt of many thousands of psychiatrists 504 00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:24,436 being sent there instead of those planes. 505 00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:27,636 Yeah, it wouldn't perhaps need 506 00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:32,795 to send thousands of psychiatrists to that place 507 00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:38,759 as twenty psychiatrists would suffice at NATO Headquarters 508 00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:41,594 and, at least, two psychiatrists in the White House. 509 00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:44,798 I am extremely pleased and proud that 510 00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:50,873 this is being organised jointly with the Romany Civic Initiative. 511 00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:57,476 If there is an area where painful, tragic questions 512 00:40:57,640 --> 00:41:01,599 are being asked in respect of human rights 513 00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:06,914 then it is very much the links between the white majority 514 00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:10,552 and the, so-called, Romany minority. 515 00:41:10,720 --> 00:41:16,910 And together with them we want to show that we are serious. 516 00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:19,790 That we wish to achieve something with them, 517 00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:26,510 in a dialogue with them in respect of human rights. 518 00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:30,470 Those are the kind of first steps to that globalisation. 519 00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:35,669 We see how they bankrupted those small tigers of South-East Asia. 520 00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:38,559 Financial oligarchy can do anything. 521 00:41:38,720 --> 00:41:42,429 It is because we are such crazy Czechs, right? 522 00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:44,671 I appreciate that you have a sense of humour. 523 00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:51,633 Are you the creator of Tamara, a military miracle in E.Europe? 524 00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:56,510 Well, it was the only unique equipment in the military. 525 00:41:56,680 --> 00:42:00,799 And now we are in front of a sty with a goat, 526 00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:06,833 and here will take place the Second World War, pseudo style, 527 00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:12,839 the Third World War will theoretically follow. 528 00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:19,469 -What is Tamara'? -It's an instrument 529 00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:28,634 to locate an aircraft and where a radar is in action. 530 00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:32,475 They say that in Kosovo with the help of Tamara 531 00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:36,474 they brought down that aircraft invisible to radar. 532 00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:40,673 An invisible aircraft is invisible to radar 533 00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:44,470 and as far as I know the 127 534 00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:48,793 doesn't send anything which could be picked up by Tamara. 535 00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:52,592 So, from Tamara's point of view it is an uncatohable plane. 536 00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:57,436 That means that you did not shoot it down. 537 00:42:57,600 --> 00:43:04,472 I think that the 127 wasn't shot down with the help of Tamara. 538 00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:05,876 That is almost certain. 539 00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:09,751 The war will break out here any moment. 540 00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:15,472 I heard that you are working on a totally new machine, 541 00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:20,635 which will scrap Tamara. Is that true'? 542 00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:25,715 Yes, that's exactly right. Not working on - already worked out. 543 00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:31,717 It's equipment which will interfere with Tamara. 544 00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:36,556 All equipment can be interfered with when it is electronic. 545 00:43:36,720 --> 00:43:39,678 In a stupid brutish way. 546 00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:42,673 Whereas, what I am inventing 547 00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:46,515 will interfere with Tamara intelligently. 548 00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:49,832 That means that it knows Tamara's Achilles heel. 549 00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:54,716 Of course, meaning the Pardubice Tamara. 550 00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:59,477 These Tamaras which are all over the world 551 00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:05,830 {30 to 40 of them} then they can be interfered with easily. 552 00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:10,910 And they can be interfered with in a way 553 00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:16,919 that Tamara simply will not even know that it is being done 554 00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:20,678 and will latch on to a false target which will not be genuine. 555 00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:25,516 -Stupid Tamara. -It will be fooled. 556 00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:29,879 Over the mine-fields ropes are stretched with explosives. 557 00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:32,636 Explosive ropes you could say, 558 00:44:32,680 --> 00:44:37,470 and then, like, when the ropes fall on that mine-field 559 00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:42,476 or are in some way spread out, 560 00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:48,591 then they are blasted, and simply the mines 561 00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:53,709 which are under the ropes or in their vicinity are set off. 562 00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:57,669 I would like for it to also be seen, everything. Let's go... 563 00:44:57,840 --> 00:45:00,832 ...go off with a bang. 564 00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:03,830 This means that in a certain way you love explosives? 565 00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:08,593 You can't say that I love explosives. 566 00:45:09,640 --> 00:45:13,713 Everything is coincidence, like everything in life. 567 00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:17,760 After the war 568 00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:22,756 I entered the Philosophical Faculty. Not to do chemistry. 569 00:45:48,720 --> 00:45:55,672 I wanted to ask, your father is a Rector of... 570 00:45:55,840 --> 00:46:00,471 -Used to be. -...of Charles University. 571 00:46:00,640 --> 00:46:06,716 Why doesn't, for example, Petr Rezek teach at the University? 572 00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:11,594 You should ask him, he I think taught at the University and, 573 00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:15,594 as far as I know, left. Of his own accord actually. 574 00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:21,915 I see it time and time again, such brains escape somewhere 575 00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:27,873 and other peculiar ones stay in one place. 576 00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:31,678 I'm not sure what you mean. 577 00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:37,836 Well, I am not sure what I mean, what I am angling at, 578 00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:41,836 I got to know Petr Rezek recently and 579 00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:45,518 it just seems to me a great shame. 580 00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:49,514 I will put the question again to your father. 581 00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:53,639 I consider Petr Rezek could teach at a university 582 00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:55,871 but why he does not I suggest that you ask him. 583 00:46:56,560 --> 00:46:58,471 I did not ask him. 584 00:46:58,720 --> 00:47:02,839 In every period of time there are groups 585 00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:07,599 who are unable to enter the marketplace with their know-how. 586 00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:11,913 And all those coups, be they revolutions or restorations, 587 00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:14,836 tear it apart, icebergs move and 588 00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:17,676 what is underneath floats to the surface. 589 00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:20,480 MrBrabenec would likewise not come out 590 00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:23,439 without this restorative revolution which we had. 591 00:47:23,600 --> 00:47:26,831 Wood wolly-foot. Velié Castle. 592 00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:30,791 That was an embarrassing TV series called Major Zeman 593 00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:35,474 with the "Gods whip" song. It was made to look like us, 594 00:47:35,640 --> 00:47:40,476 they kind of tied it up with some terrorist group 595 00:47:40,640 --> 00:47:45,589 which tried to hijack a plane. 596 00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:48,718 They added into it some drugs 597 00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:51,872 and to spice it up some dejected theology. 598 00:47:52,560 --> 00:47:55,598 Even the lyrics were written by those Secret Policemen. 599 00:47:55,760 --> 00:47:58,798 They wrote the lyrics and the music. 600 00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:01,790 The Secret police proudly allied itself to it. 601 00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:03,555 And Mejia went to the pub... 602 00:48:03,720 --> 00:48:06,439 Mejia took it down the pub which was being watched 603 00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:10,912 because it was frequented by Chartists and the underground, 604 00:48:11,560 --> 00:48:13,870 and just to show those pigs how flexible we were, 605 00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:16,716 we sang their song. 606 00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:18,593 When I was inside at Pankréc prison there was this kid 607 00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:21,832 who spent his childhood in institutions 608 00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:25,552 and from kids homes he fluidly transferred into jails. 609 00:48:25,720 --> 00:48:29,634 When he was little they had ducks at his grandfathers' yard 610 00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:33,634 and he remembered that those ducks were very long. 611 00:48:33,800 --> 00:48:37,759 He asked, you were at college, a duck has four legs, right. 612 00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:41,550 The other jail-birds said-you're crazy, duck has two legs. 613 00:48:41,720 --> 00:48:43,836 And he kept saying - why, the duck was this long, 614 00:48:44,480 --> 00:48:46,869 how could it stand on two legs, it must have four. 615 00:48:47,560 --> 00:48:52,475 In order to let him keep at least one nice memory 616 00:48:52,640 --> 00:48:56,713 I said: sure, it has one set of legs in front, more at the back, 617 00:48:56,880 --> 00:48:59,440 otherwise it'd fall over. 618 00:48:59,640 --> 00:49:02,678 Castle Svojanov, Giant Polypore. 619 00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:07,678 Society will fuse, profit will go to those who go along 620 00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:09,751 with the stabilised powers, 621 00:49:10,440 --> 00:49:14,718 then it will tear all over again, 622 00:49:14,880 --> 00:49:18,510 that is an absolutely necessary cycle. 623 00:49:18,680 --> 00:49:21,798 That's why only now we understand 624 00:49:22,440 --> 00:49:29,551 why the post-89 political stance towards the former Eastern block 625 00:49:29,720 --> 00:49:34,794 was such that for five years - it seemed like childish idiocy - 626 00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:38,711 (according to classical capitalism) to defeat the enemy, 627 00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:42,475 gain their markets and use them. 628 00:49:42,640 --> 00:49:46,634 Here it has been different - here the markets are devastated, 629 00:49:46,800 --> 00:49:50,680 purchasing power much reduced, no investment, 630 00:49:50,840 --> 00:49:53,673 there is no interest in expanding the market. 631 00:49:53,840 --> 00:49:56,673 Pernétejn - Blue-leg. 632 00:49:56,840 --> 00:49:59,878 But Marx did foresee this. Unfortunately 633 00:50:00,560 --> 00:50:05,794 he wrote that capitalism can reach such automation 634 00:50:06,480 --> 00:50:09,438 that it will suffice with small markets, there will be no need 635 00:50:09,480 --> 00:50:13,678 to expand further which is what is happening now. 636 00:50:13,840 --> 00:50:16,593 The only strange thing is that it is claimed that 637 00:50:16,760 --> 00:50:24,440 Tamara aims at the F 127 and it's not emitting anything 638 00:50:24,600 --> 00:50:27,752 which Tamara could measure or catch. 639 00:50:29,680 --> 00:50:34,516 Thus, we are imprisoned by myths of technician Brebera: Semtex. 640 00:50:34,680 --> 00:50:37,798 If it wasn't for a few Libyans or I don't know what maniacs 641 00:50:38,440 --> 00:50:43,594 it would be a normal explosive with industrial usage 642 00:50:51,640 --> 00:50:54,792 and that machine of yours, if you could sum up. 643 00:50:55,480 --> 00:50:59,474 It is equipment for military use which targets 644 00:50:59,640 --> 00:51:03,793 or finds out where targets are, assuming those targets emit. 645 00:51:04,440 --> 00:51:06,829 When they are quiet, 646 00:51:07,520 --> 00:51:11,832 in another words there is no bouncing off 647 00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:15,518 but also nothing being emitted. 648 00:51:15,680 --> 00:51:19,560 Tamara is equipment which aims on the basis of finding out 649 00:51:19,720 --> 00:51:22,872 that some source is transmitting something. 650 00:51:23,680 --> 00:51:28,880 So, it kind of behaves like bats or flies, that's how it acts. 651 00:51:29,560 --> 00:51:30,880 I would put it like this: 652 00:51:31,520 --> 00:51:35,479 when some thief comes and wants to steal during the night 653 00:51:35,640 --> 00:51:39,554 then he'll go and sniff around during the day, 654 00:51:39,720 --> 00:51:45,716 and in the dark he'll put on some gear which does not shine. 655 00:51:45,880 --> 00:51:47,757 Walks on tip-toes. 656 00:51:47,920 --> 00:51:52,835 Goes quietly the way he's already sussed during the day... 657 00:51:53,480 --> 00:51:55,756 There's a petrol tank, you idiot! 658 00:51:59,640 --> 00:52:04,760 He'll shine a torch about to ensure he's in the right place. 659 00:52:04,920 --> 00:52:11,519 That's the Stealth. It doesn't bounce off anything 660 00:52:11,680 --> 00:52:14,832 and does not transmit at all which Tamara could aim at. 661 00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:16,837 And those Stealths are now in Kosovo. 662 00:52:19,440 --> 00:52:22,671 Pecka Cash-e. StGeorgés Mushroom. 663 00:52:26,600 --> 00:52:30,480 W. economists two types. 664 00:52:30,640 --> 00:52:35,589 Afrioanisation and Latinoamericanisation. 665 00:52:36,640 --> 00:52:41,714 Latinoamericanisation, exploitation of the type 666 00:52:41,880 --> 00:52:44,872 that some investment actually happens 667 00:52:45,520 --> 00:52:49,479 because our Latin America lives on loans for over 200 years 668 00:52:49,640 --> 00:52:53,520 forced on it by the United States in particular, 669 00:52:53,680 --> 00:52:58,800 and the interest is more than a third of the US state budget. 670 00:52:59,480 --> 00:53:02,791 It is the chicken that lays the golden egg, so, 671 00:53:03,480 --> 00:53:05,710 there is no need to cut its throat. 672 00:53:05,880 --> 00:53:09,589 Then there is Africanisation where investment brought 673 00:53:09,760 --> 00:53:12,434 little return, so, the investment was stopped. 674 00:53:12,600 --> 00:53:15,718 They send dried-milk and aid and such stuff. 675 00:53:27,600 --> 00:53:30,752 I really wanted one really short fairy-tale. 676 00:53:30,920 --> 00:53:34,550 Somebody was telling it to you, a Romany fairy-tale. 677 00:53:34,720 --> 00:53:40,477 I can't think of anything. I am not prepared for it... 678 00:53:40,640 --> 00:53:44,520 What about your colleague, do you know a Romany fairy-tale. 679 00:53:44,680 --> 00:53:50,517 Please, if we have to then after the demonstration, could you... 680 00:54:20,640 --> 00:54:27,751 It will provoke tribal wars, ethnic wars, famines, diseases, 681 00:54:28,440 --> 00:54:30,590 and it'll all kick the bucket by itself. 682 00:54:30,760 --> 00:54:35,709 And them keep saying officially, so they are being heard, that 683 00:54:36,680 --> 00:54:40,753 we were doing it empirically and all in all, it's worked out. 684 00:54:40,920 --> 00:54:46,472 With E. Europe we won't bother with Latinoamericanisation, 685 00:54:46,640 --> 00:54:50,873 but we will have Africanisation and we will do it properly there, 686 00:54:51,520 --> 00:54:55,718 scientifically and hygienically. Well, they sure are doing it. 687 00:55:00,800 --> 00:55:05,874 All that news coming out of the keyholes 688 00:55:06,520 --> 00:55:09,592 of those people what sit in that Brussels. 689 00:55:09,760 --> 00:55:14,675 They keep working on it steadfastly and responsibly but 690 00:55:14,840 --> 00:55:20,597 it sure does not look pretty or favourable. For anybody. 691 00:55:20,760 --> 00:55:25,436 Except them. For them sure. For normal folk probably not. 692 00:55:25,560 --> 00:55:29,713 As I attended the Romany demonstration there was a bomb. 693 00:55:29,880 --> 00:55:34,431 I mean the briefcase of MrSaid, a lawyer, 694 00:55:34,600 --> 00:55:38,594 whose case was stolen, money taken out of it. 695 00:55:38,760 --> 00:55:41,673 The whole area was surrounded by the Police and, 696 00:55:41,840 --> 00:55:46,676 eventually, opened the briefcase and returned it to Mr.Said. 697 00:55:46,840 --> 00:55:49,673 Such was the bomb on Wenceslas Square. 698 00:55:50,520 --> 00:55:55,435 Today in the newspaper there was some geezer carrying a pigs head 699 00:55:55,600 --> 00:55:58,831 who protested on behalf of Romanies and, 700 00:55:59,480 --> 00:56:03,758 thus, highlight the concentration camps 701 00:56:05,760 --> 00:56:10,675 where today stands a pig-farm and the Romanies sent there. 702 00:56:10,720 --> 00:56:16,591 You don't know what you should shoot nor what you should paint. 703 00:56:16,760 --> 00:56:20,640 You can't keep up with it all from that bloke 704 00:56:20,800 --> 00:56:23,918 with the briefcase which became a bomb and wasn't a bomb, 705 00:56:24,560 --> 00:56:30,476 and the guy with the pig's head who ran around there yesterday. 706 00:56:30,640 --> 00:56:35,760 Who, though, did not get any support whatsoever 707 00:56:36,440 --> 00:56:38,556 except photographers and TV. 708 00:56:39,560 --> 00:56:42,632 What are you actually doing when you paint? 709 00:56:42,800 --> 00:56:48,830 We all dream to want to paint those cases, the secret ones. 710 00:56:49,520 --> 00:56:54,549 Only few succeed, that pensioner who passed by 711 00:56:54,720 --> 00:56:57,599 and reported it that it could be a bomb. 712 00:56:57,760 --> 00:57:02,755 Mostly one paints it - or Boudnik had explosionalism. 713 00:57:03,440 --> 00:57:08,435 He thought the painting should explode. 714 00:57:08,600 --> 00:57:11,479 But it does not interest anyone, it was very lucky that 715 00:57:11,640 --> 00:57:14,712 the briefcase was noticed and the person panicked. 716 00:57:14,880 --> 00:57:20,432 With the painting no-one will become that nervous. 717 00:57:20,600 --> 00:57:25,754 Maybe the painting should again become more dangerous. 718 00:57:25,920 --> 00:57:31,677 I think that after a film or a painting something should occur- 719 00:57:31,840 --> 00:57:37,472 I always say to myself that Verdi, Hernani and off we go. 720 00:57:37,640 --> 00:57:41,838 In other paintings something happens and all wrong. 721 00:57:42,520 --> 00:57:46,798 I see Picasso's 'Guernica' and it's all wrong in that picture. 722 00:57:46,840 --> 00:57:50,629 For sure, it's, of course, anti-war, but it's all wrong 723 00:57:50,800 --> 00:57:52,837 because you can't co-exist with that painting. 724 00:57:53,520 --> 00:57:56,717 Because that painting should not block one's creativity. 725 00:57:56,880 --> 00:58:00,874 What should actually come out of that painting? 726 00:58:02,840 --> 00:58:06,629 If we were to take statistics from 1990, 727 00:58:06,800 --> 00:58:10,680 then we had 28 dead within federal Czechoslovakia. 728 00:58:10,840 --> 00:58:13,798 From January 1993 up to the present time 729 00:58:14,480 --> 00:58:16,915 within the Czech republic there were 18 victims. 730 00:58:17,560 --> 00:58:23,715 All were victims of racially motivated skinheads. 731 00:58:23,880 --> 00:58:26,633 We are upset that 732 00:58:26,800 --> 00:58:30,839 these victims were treated by the Government with indifference. 733 00:58:31,480 --> 00:58:35,553 The Government was silent and did not offer any solidarity 734 00:58:35,720 --> 00:58:39,600 as it did in the case of the last death of a Sudanese student. 735 00:58:39,720 --> 00:58:45,910 We feel damaged in that, may be, there were needless deaths 736 00:58:46,560 --> 00:58:49,518 because the Government failed to fulfil its duty 737 00:58:49,680 --> 00:58:52,752 as the keeper of the peace, keeper of security. 738 00:58:53,440 --> 00:58:56,592 They are incapable to imprison even those who kill, 739 00:58:56,760 --> 00:59:03,632 they're incapable of sentencing killers of the 50's and the 70's, 740 00:59:03,800 --> 00:59:06,679 that's a terrible slapstick. 741 00:59:06,840 --> 00:59:11,789 That is your view, I think that partly it is also an intention. 742 00:59:12,480 --> 00:59:18,590 Because from statistics from the last elections from June 1996 743 00:59:18,760 --> 00:59:21,673 30% of professional soldiers and policemen 744 00:59:21,840 --> 00:59:25,435 voted the far-right Republican Party. 745 00:59:25,600 --> 00:59:29,912 These 30% are supporters of skinheads 746 00:59:30,560 --> 00:59:33,678 and if they get any complaint from Romanies 747 00:59:33,720 --> 00:59:38,590 regarding their security then they will not want to respond. 748 00:59:38,760 --> 00:59:43,516 Not that they can't - they won't. 749 00:59:46,720 --> 00:59:51,635 The water is destroying it. I thought that it won't. 750 00:59:51,800 --> 00:59:55,794 I have to dry it and put it into the jar. 751 00:59:56,720 --> 00:59:59,599 I also placed Comenius there. I'll do it later. 752 00:59:59,760 --> 00:59:59,936 Why did you put Comenius into the jar'? 753 00:59:59,960 --> 01:00:01,678 Why did you put Comenius into the jar'? 754 01:00:01,840 --> 01:00:06,755 Because the shape of the jar dissolves the seriousness 755 01:00:06,920 --> 01:00:11,471 -of Comenius' face... -Navarov. Cow boletus. 756 01:00:11,640 --> 01:00:14,553 ...one of the most horrific experiences. 757 01:00:14,720 --> 01:00:17,633 You know, when those racists laid into you. 758 01:00:17,800 --> 01:00:19,711 I don't know whether they were racists. 759 01:00:19,760 --> 01:00:24,436 -You cannot accuse like that. -But one can guess. 760 01:00:25,480 --> 01:00:29,872 Back then defended Romanies, 761 01:00:30,520 --> 01:00:34,798 you weren't very tolerant of the extreme Republicans... 762 01:00:35,480 --> 01:00:40,680 You understand, I see those consequences from it. 763 01:00:40,840 --> 01:00:46,791 And because I am terrified of those ends, let me go back a bit. 764 01:00:47,480 --> 01:00:49,869 Comenius with all that seriousness on his face, 765 01:00:50,520 --> 01:00:54,718 so I put him into that bulb and he got much nicer. 766 01:00:54,880 --> 01:00:58,669 -He is a little comical there. -Because he is little askew'? 767 01:00:58,840 --> 01:01:00,797 Yes, it would be a little comical, 768 01:01:01,480 --> 01:01:04,711 one doesn't have such fatal anxieties from him. 769 01:01:04,880 --> 01:01:08,874 He ran across that red glade to a foreign country, 770 01:01:09,560 --> 01:01:13,758 here a person weaves away from some beasties, you know, 771 01:01:14,440 --> 01:01:18,798 and comes out scarred and all that has to be dissolved, 772 01:01:19,760 --> 01:01:21,671 unforgotten, forgotten. 773 01:01:21,840 --> 01:01:25,879 -Brain Fungus. -Forget, not forgetting. 774 01:01:26,520 --> 01:01:30,434 I understand, I am beginning to understand you, 775 01:01:30,600 --> 01:01:35,879 you want to like humanise this photo of Julius Fuéik. 776 01:01:36,760 --> 01:01:41,755 By putting it into a bulb. Yes? Well, that's O.K. 777 01:01:42,440 --> 01:01:45,796 I don't have any objection if I look a little comical... 778 01:01:46,440 --> 01:01:48,670 I have this problem. 779 01:01:48,840 --> 01:01:51,912 They cut you up something awful in the face. 780 01:01:52,560 --> 01:01:54,915 Today it is gone. Because plastic surgery is something. 781 01:01:55,560 --> 01:01:59,474 In fact, if I made a film where somebody attacked you, 782 01:01:59,640 --> 01:02:02,792 I would get a group who attack some actor 783 01:02:03,440 --> 01:02:06,717 in order to play the whole lot, I simply can't, I would throw up. 784 01:02:07,600 --> 01:02:15,600 One could say that, at the time, it was really super, world class. 785 01:02:17,480 --> 01:02:25,480 If, then, we consider that the American explosive C4, 786 01:02:26,840 --> 01:02:30,879 which also can be seen in American action films, 787 01:02:31,560 --> 01:02:39,560 which they began making in '55. 788 01:02:42,560 --> 01:02:46,633 The content was probably finished in '52 789 01:02:46,680 --> 01:02:49,752 and in bigger numbers they started to produce it in 55, 790 01:02:50,440 --> 01:02:54,718 -around the same time as us. -Look at this again... 791 01:02:55,600 --> 01:02:59,434 Strictly speaking, in an explosive sense, 792 01:02:59,600 --> 01:03:02,479 from the point of view of its power of 793 01:03:04,800 --> 01:03:10,830 effectiveness, the American C4 was that 794 01:03:11,520 --> 01:03:16,549 little bit better than SEMTEX. 795 01:03:16,720 --> 01:03:21,669 Sound-man, still running. If one kills someone during a war 796 01:03:21,840 --> 01:03:24,719 I don't understand that they don't eat them. 797 01:03:28,600 --> 01:03:30,557 He should eat him. 798 01:03:30,720 --> 01:03:37,478 There would be too much, that food. I am joking - not on. 799 01:03:41,720 --> 01:03:46,510 Where would we set those unknown soldiers for memorials. 800 01:03:46,680 --> 01:03:50,674 But you produce explosives which pulverise the human body. 801 01:03:50,840 --> 01:03:53,434 You can't eat it then. 802 01:03:53,600 --> 01:03:59,710 But the greater killing is from ordinary armaments, 803 01:03:59,880 --> 01:04:04,829 it can be from a machine-gun or anything else. 804 01:04:05,480 --> 01:04:10,759 It remains important for me that you haven't caused any deaths, 805 01:04:10,920 --> 01:04:15,835 you didn't say go and blast someone. 806 01:04:17,800 --> 01:04:21,589 Most of the technicians in this field today 807 01:04:21,760 --> 01:04:27,597 also never caused someone's death. It's for the Army, 808 01:04:27,760 --> 01:04:33,676 as you pass it over to the Army, they do as they see fit. 809 01:04:33,840 --> 01:04:36,639 But the Czech Army has always functioned on the basis that 810 01:04:36,800 --> 01:04:40,759 soldiers run abroad and then they come back with someone else. 811 01:04:41,440 --> 01:04:43,556 With the Swedes they came back, 812 01:04:43,720 --> 01:04:47,554 with Russians, with Americans they came, 813 01:04:47,760 --> 01:04:51,833 with Italians, with the French during the First World war... 814 01:04:52,520 --> 01:04:54,875 Although, talking of the Second World War 815 01:04:55,560 --> 01:04:59,440 there was a certain resistance here, even armed resistance. 816 01:04:59,600 --> 01:05:03,833 New ideas for war came about here in the Czech lands. 817 01:05:04,480 --> 01:05:07,632 DON'T THROW FAG-ENDS INTO THE PISS-POTS 818 01:05:07,800 --> 01:05:10,519 WE DON'T PEE INTO YOUR ASHTRAYS AT HOME 819 01:05:10,680 --> 01:05:18,680 Pre-war Czecho was the 2nd largest exporter of arms. 820 01:05:19,560 --> 01:05:23,713 You're a brilliant inventor and I keep thinking that 821 01:05:23,880 --> 01:05:27,430 you would never say to someone - go and kill. 822 01:05:27,600 --> 01:05:32,720 No, that was never the intention, it is nonsense to think this. 823 01:05:32,880 --> 01:05:40,435 ...say to someone - go and kill. 824 01:05:41,720 --> 01:05:45,600 Even if there is work on a variety of weapon systems, 825 01:05:45,760 --> 01:05:53,599 there is enormous teamwork. 826 01:05:53,760 --> 01:06:01,760 The researcher or the technician works on a pan in a given area. 827 01:06:04,880 --> 01:06:09,590 And the plastic explosive is the finished product. 828 01:06:09,760 --> 01:06:13,515 DON'T THROW FAG-ENDS INTO THE PISS-POTS 829 01:06:13,680 --> 01:06:15,910 WE DON'T PEE INTO YOUR ASHTRAYS AT HOME 830 01:06:17,440 --> 01:06:20,637 Nobody has to use it against somebody else. 831 01:06:20,800 --> 01:06:23,918 Those explosives which are designated for peaceful purposes 832 01:06:24,560 --> 01:06:27,439 they can be also used against someone. 833 01:06:29,840 --> 01:06:35,518 In the world there is a white side as well as a black side, 834 01:06:35,680 --> 01:06:40,516 and one says to oneself that for those creative people 835 01:06:40,680 --> 01:06:44,799 whether their works arise out of the white or black side 836 01:06:45,440 --> 01:06:50,435 they can be used in a beautiful way. 837 01:06:51,560 --> 01:06:55,793 Beautiful, what do you call beautiful... 838 01:06:58,720 --> 01:07:02,759 Even if we go back in time, 839 01:07:03,520 --> 01:07:09,869 Nobel did not discover nitro-glycerine. 840 01:07:10,720 --> 01:07:14,554 The first time an Italian Sovrero synthesised it 841 01:07:14,720 --> 01:07:17,712 some twenty years before Nobel. 842 01:07:17,880 --> 01:07:20,872 Nobel really introduced the production of nitro-glycerine. 843 01:07:21,760 --> 01:07:26,470 -Giant Polypore. -I can't demand from people 844 01:07:26,640 --> 01:07:30,838 to do horrible things even if it was staged like in a theatre. 845 01:07:31,520 --> 01:07:33,796 What I cope with is a puppet. That little head. 846 01:07:34,440 --> 01:07:38,798 Because you can always see the pulleys, 847 01:07:39,440 --> 01:07:42,637 or I will hold the head like this, you can see the pulleys, 848 01:07:42,800 --> 01:07:44,871 that fate, that someone is leading it, 849 01:07:45,520 --> 01:07:48,638 I really wait-for what is more miraculous than her story, 850 01:07:48,800 --> 01:07:54,591 than that idiotic fate. I wait for what is more miraculous 851 01:07:54,760 --> 01:07:58,549 than some idiot who throws himself at a person. 852 01:07:58,720 --> 01:08:00,711 Why mention it when I have to remind myself: 853 01:08:00,880 --> 01:08:03,554 yes, there is fate, there are these gross events 854 01:08:03,720 --> 01:08:06,792 for the world to work because it is formed in this stupid way. 855 01:08:07,480 --> 01:08:11,553 On the other hand, human abilities surmount that fate, 856 01:08:11,720 --> 01:08:16,715 which means doing things out of synch of all those stupidities, 857 01:08:16,880 --> 01:08:18,871 those massacres, those beating of heads. 858 01:08:19,440 --> 01:08:21,556 Shield Mushroom. 859 01:08:21,720 --> 01:08:25,429 Getting back to Romanies. You sit on some Commission. 860 01:08:25,600 --> 01:08:27,511 Now I thought you were going to ask me if I am a Romany. 861 01:08:27,680 --> 01:08:31,674 -Castle Sobivec. -What was fascinating was that 862 01:08:31,840 --> 01:08:35,754 some of the most valued newsmen, when they interviewed me, 863 01:08:36,440 --> 01:08:41,435 they stopped recording and said: please-off the record. 864 01:08:41,600 --> 01:08:44,433 Is it true that you are a Romany'? 865 01:08:44,680 --> 01:08:47,752 You know, if I was a Romany I would not be ashamed of it 866 01:08:47,920 --> 01:08:50,594 but as I am not a Romany why should I say that I am. 867 01:09:05,800 --> 01:09:10,556 Occasionally I go and lecture at the Dept of Explosives... 868 01:09:10,720 --> 01:09:14,509 -Where'? -In Pardubice. 869 01:09:14,680 --> 01:09:20,551 What we are doing here 870 01:09:20,720 --> 01:09:24,600 makes absolutely no sense... 871 01:09:26,600 --> 01:09:31,436 All I could say is that they are playing at soldiers here. 872 01:09:31,600 --> 01:09:35,753 We are playing at soldiers. 873 01:09:35,920 --> 01:09:42,713 On 1 May I cried as a nine-year old 874 01:09:43,560 --> 01:09:47,918 as I could not go on the parade 'cos dad gave me a sick-note: 875 01:09:48,560 --> 01:09:53,794 Léda Ptééek cannot join in on 1 May 876 01:09:54,480 --> 01:09:57,518 as he has to help pull the manure can and plant potatoes. 877 01:09:57,680 --> 01:09:59,936 I make up for it today 'cos I planted the potatoes early. 878 01:09:59,960 --> 01:10:01,633 I make up for it today 'cos I planted the potatoes early. 879 01:10:01,800 --> 01:10:05,430 Let me speak to these men. 880 01:10:05,600 --> 01:10:10,834 You do what you like, sir - but this is my place. 881 01:10:11,800 --> 01:10:15,634 We'll move aside... 882 01:10:18,600 --> 01:10:21,433 -You did not know each other... -No. 883 01:10:21,600 --> 01:10:24,877 I used to know many people from his village, yeah... 884 01:10:25,560 --> 01:10:31,829 You knew the first Managing Director, that Miroslav Slezék. 885 01:10:32,480 --> 01:10:35,438 -I knew Slezék. -After him came Hlouéek. 886 01:10:35,600 --> 01:10:37,796 You didn't know him, he was a working-class Director. 887 01:10:38,440 --> 01:10:42,832 Well no, I knew one, he was there only a mo', from Prague, 888 01:10:43,480 --> 01:10:46,836 that was sometime in 60's, 65. 889 01:10:47,520 --> 01:10:51,514 I wasn't there any more, they kicked me out in 58. 890 01:10:51,680 --> 01:10:56,550 -When did they throw you out? -Didn't throw me out per se 891 01:10:56,720 --> 01:11:01,556 after 68. Definitely, at the beginning of 70. 892 01:11:01,720 --> 01:11:05,918 Thanks to that working-class Director I got ousted because 893 01:11:06,560 --> 01:11:10,713 I objected that the Director should be in some way an expert. 894 01:11:13,600 --> 01:11:17,719 I was expelled from the Party as I didn't agree with the invasion. 895 01:11:17,880 --> 01:11:19,791 I never joined the Party. 896 01:11:21,520 --> 01:11:27,436 I'll tell you some idiocies. I am doing cinema 897 01:11:27,600 --> 01:11:33,755 about people rising from the dead and 898 01:11:34,440 --> 01:11:39,719 that Michal Fyodorovic Fyodorov wants all to rise and 899 01:11:39,880 --> 01:11:42,918 thinks they will all come out. And that they will be here and, 900 01:11:43,560 --> 01:11:47,838 so, many of them that there won't be enough space here. 901 01:11:48,520 --> 01:11:52,878 When they all don't fit they'll disperse all over the galaxy. 902 01:11:53,520 --> 01:11:56,592 It would do if the majority of the live ones would crawl away 903 01:11:56,760 --> 01:12:00,799 rather than import post-human souls of those dead. 904 01:12:01,480 --> 01:12:02,834 You nihilist! 905 01:12:05,440 --> 01:12:08,478 Probably it was not relevant. 906 01:12:08,640 --> 01:12:11,712 Some live ones I'd substitute with more dead ones. 907 01:12:11,880 --> 01:12:15,839 If one was able to regulate it. But the ratio would be upset. 908 01:12:16,520 --> 01:12:19,911 But the truth is that a person, when alive, 909 01:12:20,560 --> 01:12:24,474 then mostly communicates with those dead ones. 910 01:12:24,640 --> 01:12:29,589 Those few who make sense you can count on your fingers. 911 01:12:29,760 --> 01:12:32,479 So, in fact all the time we talk with the dead. 912 01:12:32,640 --> 01:12:35,871 I listen to Chopin, listen to Dvolék - they're all deceased, 913 01:12:36,560 --> 01:12:40,793 I read those who've passed on, I communicate with them. 914 01:12:42,600 --> 01:12:45,479 -And who're you? -Nearly deceased. 915 01:12:45,640 --> 01:12:48,792 -I am Karel Vachek. -I know. I am Vratislav Erbr. 916 01:12:49,480 --> 01:12:53,599 Pleased to meet you. I am glad I see you, so, alive 917 01:12:53,760 --> 01:12:57,754 even if it's all about dead ones. Isn't it an illusion? 918 01:12:57,920 --> 01:13:00,753 Ti me fl ies, even for the live ones. 919 01:13:01,440 --> 01:13:03,511 The dead ones are eternal. 920 01:13:03,680 --> 01:13:06,911 I really like the idea that they would all be here you know. 921 01:13:07,560 --> 01:13:09,870 Well, in their way they are here. 922 01:13:10,560 --> 01:13:14,554 -They are not here physically. -Truly, they don't stink us out! 923 01:13:14,760 --> 01:13:17,513 I am Karel Vaohek, who are you? 924 01:13:17,680 --> 01:13:19,751 Michal Wernisch alias Evald Murer. 925 01:13:20,440 --> 01:13:24,638 The one who Petr Krél wrote me about 926 01:13:24,800 --> 01:13:27,679 -he said you're a poet. -That's possible 927 01:13:27,840 --> 01:13:31,629 it Krél wrote it.. He rust know, for sure. 928 01:13:31,800 --> 01:13:35,680 -And what's that? -That is our daughter Rozarka. 929 01:13:35,840 --> 01:13:37,877 She is the grand-daughter of the poet Ivan Wernisch 930 01:13:38,560 --> 01:13:41,439 and daughter of Evald Murer which is interesting. 931 01:13:43,480 --> 01:13:47,439 -Doesn't work. Everything is possible. 932 01:13:47,680 --> 01:13:51,674 Mr.K. I wanted to ask what does the poet Divié mean to you. 933 01:13:55,600 --> 01:13:58,672 It's on a different plane. 934 01:13:58,840 --> 01:14:02,470 I don't read it, don't understand it. 935 01:14:02,640 --> 01:14:05,712 It has certain power, great value but... 936 01:14:05,880 --> 01:14:08,440 And is there anybody... 937 01:14:10,680 --> 01:14:13,433 ls there anybody who you would read? 938 01:14:14,640 --> 01:14:17,871 It'll be those deceased. Rather than one of those living ones. 939 01:14:18,560 --> 01:14:22,679 Only the dead ones. You wouldn't read the ones that are alive. 940 01:14:22,840 --> 01:14:26,515 You pushed them under my nose, I didn't start talking about them. 941 01:14:27,680 --> 01:14:32,516 Some verses of those live ones I like. 942 01:14:32,680 --> 01:14:38,710 But that I would enthuse about one of the present ones, 943 01:14:38,880 --> 01:14:40,757 that I can't say. 944 01:14:41,440 --> 01:14:45,513 I read Stankovié or read your things. 945 01:14:47,440 --> 01:14:53,470 Some say I should read Mr.Marx, there is something here... 946 01:14:56,680 --> 01:15:00,913 Excuse me, is there a poet you respect? 947 01:15:01,560 --> 01:15:03,631 Here? No! 948 01:15:04,520 --> 01:15:09,674 When I want to read something which really entertains me 949 01:15:10,720 --> 01:15:15,635 I rather read someone who is not here any more. 950 01:15:15,800 --> 01:15:18,633 Because I know them and I return to them. 951 01:15:18,800 --> 01:15:23,670 With my wife Helena I chat very often. 952 01:15:23,840 --> 01:15:29,518 You're over eighty. Do you know what that means? 953 01:15:29,680 --> 01:15:34,470 I was born in 1913 and there is nothing you can do about it. 954 01:15:34,640 --> 01:15:36,790 Let's have a drink. 955 01:15:38,560 --> 01:15:40,631 That's good wine. 956 01:15:42,640 --> 01:15:50,593 But you see, now you've got me, keep an eye on it. 957 01:15:50,760 --> 01:15:56,870 Well, sod me - as they say. With those years, I mean. 958 01:15:57,840 --> 01:16:01,913 I thought something like seventy six. 959 01:16:02,560 --> 01:16:06,793 There's that Fajkus, from Brno. 960 01:16:07,440 --> 01:16:09,909 I think he lives in Dillinger street number 1. 961 01:16:10,560 --> 01:16:13,916 Terribly young and he is a real poet. 962 01:16:15,440 --> 01:16:17,431 There he is. 963 01:16:17,600 --> 01:16:21,434 Why don't you hold a glass when they're photographing you. 964 01:16:22,720 --> 01:16:26,679 There's that Fajkus, that beautiful boy. 965 01:16:27,920 --> 01:16:29,877 That's him. 966 01:16:30,760 --> 01:16:33,434 That's a new poet. 967 01:16:34,920 --> 01:16:37,753 Robert. That's him. 968 01:16:38,440 --> 01:16:41,592 You know, he told us about Dillinger street. 969 01:16:42,560 --> 01:16:45,791 -Who was it? -Some painter supposedly. 970 01:16:46,480 --> 01:16:48,756 You're an idiot. I wrote you a long letter. 971 01:16:49,440 --> 01:16:52,558 -You said it was some gangster. -He was a multiple murderer 972 01:16:52,720 --> 01:16:57,430 and when I was ten the news was all around Prague. 973 01:16:57,600 --> 01:17:01,639 John Dillinger. Terrible name for a terrible person. 974 01:17:01,800 --> 01:17:07,478 Like Al Capone. But Al Capone had alcohol. 975 01:17:07,640 --> 01:17:14,512 Shot them all, got 3 times 99 years 976 01:17:14,680 --> 01:17:18,594 in a jail called Alcatraz. 977 01:17:19,720 --> 01:17:22,712 That street was named during the totalitarian era, 978 01:17:22,880 --> 01:17:26,555 so, probably it was no gangster, it had to be some painter, 979 01:17:26,720 --> 01:17:30,475 may be gangster too. 980 01:17:30,640 --> 01:17:37,558 But I want those dead ones to stay alive. 981 01:17:37,720 --> 01:17:41,918 -Are you making fun of me? -No way, I would not dare. 982 01:17:42,560 --> 01:17:46,633 I simply think that all those who were here should return, 983 01:17:46,800 --> 01:17:50,680 so, everyone would be here together. For a moment, now. 984 01:17:51,560 --> 01:17:55,599 That's acceptable. 985 01:17:55,760 --> 01:18:03,760 There is a particular theory by M.F.Fyodorov, 986 01:18:04,640 --> 01:18:07,553 a Russian philosopher from the nineteenth century. 987 01:18:07,720 --> 01:18:12,556 For him, they all rise from the dead and remain on Earth, 988 01:18:12,720 --> 01:18:17,749 and because there is not enough space they disperse into space. 989 01:18:18,440 --> 01:18:21,831 He claims that all beings who were here 990 01:18:22,480 --> 01:18:25,871 should return. 991 01:18:27,880 --> 01:18:30,713 But you never have such ideas? 992 01:18:30,880 --> 01:18:33,520 —Why fiot? 993 01:18:33,680 --> 01:18:40,791 What why not, I just DON'T. Rising from the dead is nonsense. 994 01:18:42,520 --> 01:18:46,718 There does not exist an eschatological sanction 995 01:18:47,760 --> 01:18:50,752 which means no nether world exists. 996 01:18:51,440 --> 01:18:54,432 If there is no nether world, 997 01:18:54,600 --> 01:18:58,798 as an eschatological sanction, and put religiously catholically, 998 01:18:59,440 --> 01:19:02,478 then there can be no rising from the dead. 999 01:19:04,800 --> 01:19:10,432 And if it was like that it would have be totally nonsensical. 1000 01:19:15,760 --> 01:19:21,836 I could meet Dante, Dante In Corpore. 1001 01:19:22,640 --> 01:19:26,554 You can't because he's been dead for 650 years. 1002 01:19:26,720 --> 01:19:30,509 I want it, I want to see it just once. 1003 01:19:30,680 --> 01:19:35,516 -Well, there's something in that. -You know, I always think that 1004 01:19:35,680 --> 01:19:39,435 it must have remained somewhere in plaster just like on an LP. 1005 01:19:39,600 --> 01:19:42,752 It is true... 1006 01:19:45,600 --> 01:19:51,915 It can be accepted that when you die, physically, 1007 01:19:52,560 --> 01:19:59,796 that there will remain or evaporate 1008 01:20:00,480 --> 01:20:02,835 three hundred million atoms. 1009 01:20:04,480 --> 01:20:06,915 According to Law of energy preservation 1010 01:20:07,560 --> 01:20:11,793 those three billion atoms are undoubtedly indestructible, 1011 01:20:12,440 --> 01:20:17,753 circling somewhere, whereby in my room 1012 01:20:18,600 --> 01:20:23,674 there are hundred thousand Cleopatra's molecules. 1013 01:20:25,600 --> 01:20:27,750 But I say bugger to that! 1014 01:20:28,680 --> 01:20:33,595 Because I would like to screw Cleopatra physically in bed, 1015 01:20:33,760 --> 01:20:35,751 and I can't. 1016 01:20:36,760 --> 01:20:38,876 I would want to screw her 1017 01:20:39,840 --> 01:20:46,792 if she really was as alluring as Julius Caesar imagined. 1018 01:20:47,440 --> 01:20:53,755 Or I would wish - forlorn hopes. For Dostoyevsky to walk in. 1019 01:20:54,600 --> 01:20:58,559 With whom I would discuss a religious problem. 1020 01:20:58,720 --> 01:21:02,554 But he will not enter. Never. 1021 01:21:14,760 --> 01:21:19,834 The consecrated grave from which You gloriously arose. 1022 01:21:20,520 --> 01:21:23,717 And through You are also holy the graves of all believers 1023 01:21:23,880 --> 01:21:27,555 for they died with You and will arise with You. 1024 01:21:27,720 --> 01:21:33,511 We beseech You to let our brother Ivan Divié rest in peace 1025 01:21:33,680 --> 01:21:37,560 to await the time when You wake him and in Your light 1026 01:21:37,720 --> 01:21:40,838 sees God because You are our resurrection and life, 1027 01:21:41,480 --> 01:21:44,916 You live and reign for ever more. Amen. 1028 01:21:48,800 --> 01:21:52,680 Relieve us of all evil, not least, from circumstances of Kosovo, 1029 01:21:52,840 --> 01:21:58,631 protect us Almighty God, Father, Son and the Holy Spirit. Amen. 1030 01:22:12,520 --> 01:22:14,830 Are there any among Czechs you would wish to hear? 1031 01:22:15,480 --> 01:22:16,629 Mécha. 1032 01:22:17,840 --> 01:22:22,550 And he would yell at me, he would be offensive 1033 01:22:24,800 --> 01:22:30,796 and intolerably jealous of that cunt of his, that Lori. 1034 01:22:31,440 --> 01:22:36,833 But I wouldn't enjoy it. His Krkonoé Pilgrimage would be fun 1035 01:22:37,520 --> 01:22:40,558 and those twenty striking verses from his Méj. 1036 01:22:40,720 --> 01:22:44,679 I would discuss this with him. He wouldn't give me the pleasure. 1037 01:22:44,840 --> 01:22:48,799 He would be aggressive, as per usual, 1038 01:22:49,440 --> 01:22:55,470 and indigestible company. That's well known. 1039 01:22:55,920 --> 01:23:01,598 Aggressive... You'd say: 1040 01:23:02,480 --> 01:23:05,836 "That Lori, she's got marvellous little ears." 1041 01:23:06,480 --> 01:23:10,553 Then, he'd perhaps drive a knife into your stomach. Madman! 1042 01:23:12,480 --> 01:23:16,633 In this sense I would want the dead to arise. 1043 01:23:16,800 --> 01:23:24,800 Call up people who fascinate me. 1044 01:23:26,840 --> 01:23:31,550 Pascal. For a moment, only for a while. 1045 01:23:32,520 --> 01:23:37,640 Or Nietzsche or Heidegger, those yes. 1046 01:23:37,800 --> 01:23:41,839 But only for a moment. But it will never happen... 1047 01:23:45,760 --> 01:23:46,875 castle. 1048 01:23:47,560 --> 01:23:51,872 ...that is possible that like when Nietzsche died 1049 01:23:52,560 --> 01:23:55,757 that according to the Law of preserving energy 1050 01:23:55,920 --> 01:24:00,676 there remained in the atmosphere five hundred million atoms... 1051 01:24:00,840 --> 01:24:06,711 -Shaggy Parasol. -...circling aimlessly above. 1052 01:24:06,880 --> 01:24:13,593 And, thereafter, evaporating into the cosmos. 1053 01:24:13,760 --> 01:24:15,876 He has enough space there. 1054 01:24:24,880 --> 01:24:28,669 If the film were to be of good quality, dear director, 1055 01:24:28,840 --> 01:24:31,832 then it will be, that is a thing of which I thought about. 1056 01:24:32,480 --> 01:24:38,590 It would only be superficial. It would only hold style. 1057 01:24:38,760 --> 01:24:42,833 It would have no content though it would be very attractive. 1058 01:24:43,480 --> 01:24:48,509 Because it is important what you experience during it 1059 01:24:48,680 --> 01:24:51,877 and that is simply indescribable. 1060 01:24:54,560 --> 01:25:01,557 Those are experiences which you only can go through 1061 01:25:01,720 --> 01:25:05,509 when you are dying or are being born. 1062 01:25:05,680 --> 01:25:09,913 Because when I am asked what I remember of it 1063 01:25:10,560 --> 01:25:16,636 believe me that I only remember total silence. 1064 01:25:16,800 --> 01:25:21,431 I know that. But I do not know 1065 01:25:21,600 --> 01:25:24,592 whether that silence lasted thirty seconds or ten minutes. 1066 01:25:24,760 --> 01:25:32,760 Life kind of stopped and in that moment one seemed absent. 1067 01:25:33,800 --> 01:25:35,711 Only something was happening to you. 1068 01:25:35,880 --> 01:25:39,714 That is the first thing you could not grasp from the outside 1069 01:25:39,880 --> 01:25:44,511 even if it was as obvious as in an action film and, secondly, 1070 01:25:44,680 --> 01:25:51,598 and I think crucially, that you realise what is FEAR - 1071 01:25:52,760 --> 01:25:58,790 which, though, stays with you for the rest of your life. 1072 01:25:59,440 --> 01:26:00,919 Like... are you listening to what I am saying? 1073 01:26:01,560 --> 01:26:03,710 Very much so, to every word. 1074 01:26:03,880 --> 01:26:06,554 That's a different kind of fear, not a fear 1075 01:26:06,720 --> 01:26:10,509 of being scared to be in such a situation I ended up in. 1076 01:26:10,680 --> 01:26:14,753 It's a fear which sticks to you when you walk into a street. 1077 01:26:14,920 --> 01:26:22,554 I never looked behind me waiting at a junction for the lights. 1078 01:26:22,720 --> 01:26:26,714 When I waited for the metro I used to stand by the safety line 1079 01:26:26,880 --> 01:26:31,716 which I simply don't do any more. Without even thinking. 1080 01:26:31,880 --> 01:26:35,635 That, you understand, simply overwhelms you. 1081 01:26:40,840 --> 01:26:45,437 I'll say something silly. You seem to me like a brave M.P.. 1082 01:26:45,600 --> 01:26:47,876 Maybe you even are. 1083 01:26:48,560 --> 01:26:51,518 Orphan Castle. Oyster Mushroom. 1084 01:26:51,680 --> 01:26:55,913 From the moment it happened something changed in Czecho. 1085 01:26:56,560 --> 01:27:00,758 When I saw your head and saw something I could not touch, 1086 01:27:00,920 --> 01:27:04,550 it seemed to me that it was symbolic, 1087 01:27:04,720 --> 01:27:09,590 not that you were a symbol or a hero, you understand, 1088 01:27:09,760 --> 01:27:15,631 but that something happened and you were a part of it. 1089 01:27:17,760 --> 01:27:19,671 Do you understand... 1090 01:27:19,840 --> 01:27:24,630 Now you are tinged by it and clearly cannot back out. 1091 01:27:24,800 --> 01:27:29,749 You have to express yourself in that sense. 1092 01:27:30,440 --> 01:27:32,750 Get involved in certain things. 1093 01:27:32,920 --> 01:27:40,873 In relation to ethnic minorities in Parliament, you understand. 1094 01:27:41,560 --> 01:27:45,599 Hang on! I became entangled in this even before that. 1095 01:27:45,760 --> 01:27:50,630 It's laughable that you receive a kick from fate 1096 01:27:50,800 --> 01:27:54,714 which strengthens what you say. 1097 01:27:54,880 --> 01:27:57,474 As long as you don't start talking nonsense. 1098 01:28:01,560 --> 01:28:05,758 Are you trying to say that my opinion will be more respected? 1099 01:28:05,920 --> 01:28:08,753 Yes, because you know something of that horror. 1100 01:28:08,920 --> 01:28:13,630 That's not true. From my own experience I can tell you that 1101 01:28:13,880 --> 01:28:19,478 I have more often come across the view, or a variety of views, 1102 01:28:19,640 --> 01:28:23,793 that, in fact, I am a black swine like those 1103 01:28:24,480 --> 01:28:29,680 that I defend. I talk crap. Haven't I had enough? 1104 01:28:29,840 --> 01:28:33,629 We are all black swine. I am also a black swine. 1105 01:28:33,800 --> 01:28:37,919 Well, you said that nicely. That strengthens you. 1106 01:28:38,560 --> 01:28:41,791 I am aware that it reduces one's strength but 1107 01:28:42,440 --> 01:28:46,513 ultimately, as a consequence, it makes you more powerful. 1108 01:28:46,680 --> 01:28:49,593 I think, though, that would be the worst outcome, 1109 01:28:49,760 --> 01:28:53,833 sorry that I am opposing you, as a colleague I beg to differ- 1110 01:28:54,520 --> 01:28:57,478 that would be the worst thing that could happen because 1111 01:28:57,640 --> 01:29:02,555 I would become someone who is doing something just for effect. 1112 01:29:02,720 --> 01:29:06,600 No, that cannot possibly happen to you. We are just diluting it. 1113 01:29:06,760 --> 01:29:11,630 That yourself, that you are capable even of talking about it. 1114 01:29:11,800 --> 01:29:17,796 If I was convinced that 1115 01:29:18,440 --> 01:29:23,640 because of this I had more respect thafll be dangerous. 1116 01:29:23,800 --> 01:29:27,714 I would take on a role. Well, you know this as a director. 1117 01:29:27,880 --> 01:29:29,917 -I have spoiled your plan. -No. 1118 01:29:30,560 --> 01:29:36,829 A person gets a helping hand from fate in a horrific manner, 1119 01:29:37,720 --> 01:29:41,793 boost - downer in a way, something a person wouldn't wish. 1120 01:29:42,440 --> 01:29:45,558 I have to admit that it did not really strengthen me. 1121 01:29:46,840 --> 01:29:50,834 I told you a moment ago that, to the contrary, my fears increased. 1122 01:29:51,480 --> 01:29:55,474 Not the kind of fear which would stop me being a politician 1123 01:29:55,640 --> 01:29:59,936 avoiding touchy subjects, but gave me an unknown fear. 1124 01:29:59,960 --> 01:30:00,836 Avoiding touchy subjects, but gave me an unknown fear. 1125 01:30:01,520 --> 01:30:04,876 Fear from every hour which I spend in an environment 1126 01:30:05,560 --> 01:30:07,437 where I don't know what is going to happen. 1127 01:30:07,600 --> 01:30:09,477 You think that gives strength? No. 1128 01:30:09,640 --> 01:30:11,836 Yes, because it gives us a kick up the backside. 1129 01:30:12,520 --> 01:30:16,559 -I sometimes bellowed in fear. -You bellowed in fear? 1130 01:30:16,720 --> 01:30:20,634 Yes, until one gets totally rid of it like, or nearly, 1131 01:30:20,800 --> 01:30:23,440 because a person does not ever get rid of it absolutely. 1132 01:30:23,600 --> 01:30:26,831 The organism strengthens. Unless one has a total breakdown. 1133 01:30:27,480 --> 01:30:31,633 It's ever a thin line between the nut-house and the street. 1134 01:30:31,800 --> 01:30:35,873 That dog has been crossed with a sausage dog, thus has short legs. 1135 01:30:36,520 --> 01:30:39,831 And every one of our politicians do not reach even his knees. 1136 01:30:40,520 --> 01:30:44,514 I said that in a live broadcast, but firstly asked if it was live. 1137 01:30:44,680 --> 01:30:48,878 When they affirmed I said this. Then there was a minute silence. 1138 01:30:49,760 --> 01:30:52,513 -This was on the State TV? -No, it was commercial NOVA. 1139 01:30:52,680 --> 01:30:56,435 NOVA with its Director Zelezny. Zelezny. He throws the javelin. 1140 01:30:56,600 --> 01:30:59,433 He introduced me his bodyguards. 1141 01:30:59,600 --> 01:31:02,831 In no idiotic American soap did I see someone 1142 01:31:03,520 --> 01:31:07,673 introducing you to six foot heavies who stand beside him. 1143 01:31:07,840 --> 01:31:10,798 That's democracy. 1144 01:31:11,440 --> 01:31:16,469 -That is People's Democracy. -Intros to heavies is democracy. 1145 01:31:16,640 --> 01:31:18,790 There is greatest censorship in late-night erotic programmes. 1146 01:31:18,840 --> 01:31:23,869 -They crossed out my dick. -Sweetie, feel my dick. 1147 01:31:24,520 --> 01:31:29,799 Wait, you agree to your brother doing such things? 1148 01:31:30,440 --> 01:31:32,795 Does it because of money. Has an evil wife. 1149 01:31:33,440 --> 01:31:37,798 She needs him to bring in at least twenty thousand a month. 1150 01:31:38,440 --> 01:31:39,839 Nobody would get me to do it. 1151 01:31:40,480 --> 01:31:44,872 -Got the Literary paper here... -We'll put this on film. 1152 01:31:49,760 --> 01:31:52,479 Fool, fool, fool... 1153 01:31:53,640 --> 01:31:58,589 ...the Literary Newspaper from the week that Ivan Divié died. 1154 01:31:58,760 --> 01:32:04,472 And here are his verses about rising from the dead and 1155 01:32:04,640 --> 01:32:10,909 if timed him 1, 2, 3 months ago, talked to him about this. 1156 01:32:11,560 --> 01:32:17,636 All the time he babbled on 'bout some Dillinger from Brno. 1157 01:32:17,800 --> 01:32:21,634 'E said he was a murderer and a gangster. 1158 01:32:21,800 --> 01:32:28,479 In that very newspaper it says- Karel, look at it - 1159 01:32:30,600 --> 01:32:34,639 graphic designer Petr Dillinger. 1160 01:32:34,800 --> 01:32:39,670 And here it is written that he died 45 years ago 1161 01:32:39,840 --> 01:32:43,515 and did wood carvings for "Grannie", 1162 01:32:45,720 --> 01:32:49,839 isn't that strange that that very day I read about them. 1163 01:32:50,520 --> 01:32:54,673 Grandad orally, granma anally. 1164 01:32:57,840 --> 01:33:03,677 First opera was for the nation. Composed in the pre-war Republic 1165 01:33:03,840 --> 01:33:11,429 where Lukeé tried to create some committed art. 1166 01:33:11,640 --> 01:33:15,520 This opera ends in a tragi-comic fashion, 1167 01:33:15,680 --> 01:33:18,593 in fact it presents the incompetence of our acrobats. 1168 01:33:18,760 --> 01:33:23,596 This is, so, as on to the stage of the National Theatre 1169 01:33:23,760 --> 01:33:27,515 lands one of the flyers as a piece of frazzled bacon. 1170 01:33:27,680 --> 01:33:31,674 Lukeé, by the way, composed 38 operas. 1171 01:33:31,840 --> 01:33:35,879 Shortened essay by Petr Rezek - HOOF. 1172 01:33:37,520 --> 01:33:38,919 That is reality. 1173 01:33:40,640 --> 01:33:45,919 That is a model according to reality, 1174 01:33:46,640 --> 01:33:49,519 a piece of art. 1175 01:33:50,560 --> 01:33:54,679 And a piece of art causes 1176 01:33:54,840 --> 01:34:00,552 the creation of a new reality - 1177 01:34:01,760 --> 01:34:03,751 a shoe. 1178 01:34:04,800 --> 01:34:08,873 Probably placed the little peg badly, I forget sometimes. 1179 01:34:09,520 --> 01:34:11,636 Shaggy Mane. 1180 01:34:13,720 --> 01:34:18,794 ...and thus a created new reality 1181 01:34:19,800 --> 01:34:25,478 which I can put on my foot. 1182 01:34:26,520 --> 01:34:33,711 When the Germans came he tried again to be loyal in some way. 1183 01:34:33,880 --> 01:34:40,798 But that loyalty of his always proved the proverb was apt: 1184 01:34:41,480 --> 01:34:44,791 Do favours for the devil and hell will reward you. 1185 01:34:46,720 --> 01:34:49,712 In front of the hospital in Louny, 1186 01:34:49,880 --> 01:34:55,558 where in the winter of 44 he worked as a doctor 1187 01:34:57,440 --> 01:35:02,640 an ambulance (which was in the service of the Gestapo), crashed. 1188 01:35:02,800 --> 01:35:09,433 It ran over some SA doctor bloke, by name of Kaiser, 1189 01:35:09,600 --> 01:35:12,831 well-known locally as an active fascist. 1190 01:35:13,520 --> 01:35:19,516 This German broke many bones 1191 01:35:19,680 --> 01:35:25,790 and was unlucky the hospital had a shortage of bandages 1192 01:35:26,480 --> 01:35:31,680 and Lukeé didn't notice breakages deep in the pelvis, 1193 01:35:31,840 --> 01:35:37,597 so, the German died of embolism and 1194 01:35:37,760 --> 01:35:42,880 there were efforts to turn Lukeé into an outcast, 1195 01:35:43,560 --> 01:35:50,557 an anti-German Czech saboteur, as they used to say, and 1196 01:35:52,520 --> 01:35:57,549 eventually ended up on a psychiatric ward 1197 01:35:57,720 --> 01:36:02,590 under Professor Mysliveéek in Prague and, 1198 01:36:02,760 --> 01:36:07,436 thus, this Mysliveéek really put his neck on the line 1199 01:36:07,600 --> 01:36:10,479 and saved Lukeé from a catastrophe. 1200 01:36:10,640 --> 01:36:12,517 You know what gives us extra strength: 1201 01:36:12,560 --> 01:36:17,873 when voluntarily you do something you're afraid of. 1202 01:36:18,560 --> 01:36:21,757 And that is the case when you were in opposition. 1203 01:36:21,920 --> 01:36:23,718 Like during the previous political era. 1204 01:36:24,720 --> 01:36:28,429 You know what was most horrifying? To say the first NO! 1205 01:36:29,800 --> 01:36:32,519 To refuse something. 1206 01:36:32,680 --> 01:36:36,799 To choose to cross the road with a red light. 1207 01:36:37,480 --> 01:36:41,474 On the basis of that voluntary NO, then all the following NOs 1208 01:36:41,640 --> 01:36:44,871 are terribly unimportant and come about much more easily. 1209 01:36:45,520 --> 01:36:47,875 This surely was not a voluntary decision on my part, 1210 01:36:48,520 --> 01:36:51,638 that what happened to me happened. 1211 01:36:52,680 --> 01:36:57,834 During May 1968 1212 01:36:58,520 --> 01:37:02,593 people collected gold to put up statues of Masaryk 1213 01:37:02,760 --> 01:37:04,751 and for the Czech Republics' gold reserves... 1214 01:37:04,920 --> 01:37:07,673 We gave gold, a golden necklace and then got our gander up... 1215 01:37:07,840 --> 01:37:11,799 If you consider that year 89, only four months later people 1216 01:37:12,480 --> 01:37:15,711 were arguing over property. That is also a basic difference. 1217 01:37:15,880 --> 01:37:22,752 There's also a big difference in that mystical quality of Dubéek. 1218 01:37:22,920 --> 01:37:27,437 Lots of people make fun of him but I, who saw him from close up 1219 01:37:27,600 --> 01:37:30,592 and talked to him, know that he was a great mystic. 1220 01:37:30,760 --> 01:37:34,833 And that he was, so, terribly dumb because he was so internal 1221 01:37:35,520 --> 01:37:37,591 which lots of people did not realise... 1222 01:37:37,760 --> 01:37:40,673 I knew him very personally, 1223 01:37:40,840 --> 01:37:43,514 I used to visit him frequently in Slovakia... 1224 01:37:43,680 --> 01:37:46,593 ...there is another such slapstick in Czecho. 1225 01:37:46,760 --> 01:37:49,673 We had another such a crazy President 1226 01:37:49,840 --> 01:37:53,470 and he ended up likewise wretchedly. 1227 01:37:53,920 --> 01:37:59,632 That was Edvard Beneé. If you ever heard him squeal... 1228 01:37:59,800 --> 01:38:04,715 -That voice pitch... -In history one can sense 1229 01:38:04,880 --> 01:38:09,477 that dependence that Masaryk had on Beneé. How much he needed him. 1230 01:38:09,640 --> 01:38:11,870 Because he saw his qualities 1231 01:38:12,560 --> 01:38:16,519 as a human being. 1232 01:38:16,680 --> 01:38:24,633 He worked with good and bad means, but correctly. 1233 01:38:24,840 --> 01:38:30,677 So, Beneé seems in the eyes of some people as partly a rogue. 1234 01:38:31,480 --> 01:38:38,671 But he foresaw the future which is a mystery to me. 1235 01:38:38,840 --> 01:38:43,516 I dislike those who do it sensibly and emotionally 1236 01:38:43,680 --> 01:38:47,469 which is why I don't like the theatre which depends on emotion. 1237 01:38:47,680 --> 01:38:50,832 Actors usually don't keep a distance. 1238 01:38:51,480 --> 01:38:55,439 But Beneé, and Dubéek, had the quality of the actor O. Novy. 1239 01:38:55,600 --> 01:38:58,558 You gawp what nonsense they talk and you feel good. 1240 01:38:58,720 --> 01:39:01,439 Because something good is happening there. 1241 01:39:01,600 --> 01:39:06,834 That is very deep. Those are really strange things. 1242 01:39:07,640 --> 01:39:13,750 Although, some can interpret it quite the other way round and 1243 01:39:13,920 --> 01:39:19,791 talk about it as totally nonsensical acts, 1244 01:39:20,480 --> 01:39:22,869 as badly managed events. 1245 01:39:23,560 --> 01:39:27,474 Doctor Jan Lukeé who was born in 1912 1246 01:39:27,640 --> 01:39:31,554 was a doctor, a dermatologist, a psychiatrist, 1247 01:39:31,720 --> 01:39:36,794 a linguist and poet, a mathematician and a chemist. 1248 01:39:37,440 --> 01:39:42,594 His frequent stage experiments with various explosives 1249 01:39:42,760 --> 01:39:45,878 relate to his original interest in chemistry. 1250 01:39:46,560 --> 01:39:49,518 Kfivoklét Castle. Yellow-tipped Coral. 1251 01:39:49,680 --> 01:39:54,834 ...and a calligrapher he was. Or ties it with VéchaFs book cult. 1252 01:39:55,480 --> 01:39:58,791 He invented altogether 16 artificial languages, 1253 01:39:59,440 --> 01:39:59,936 and worked into a proper form, like Esperanto, two of them. 1254 01:39:59,960 --> 01:40:04,591 And worked into a proper form, like Esperanto, two of them. 1255 01:40:04,760 --> 01:40:08,833 In order to communicate with his wife, 1256 01:40:09,480 --> 01:40:12,438 who was called Dahoriane and came from another planet 1257 01:40:12,600 --> 01:40:16,514 landing in a space-ship near his cottage near Solopysky, 1258 01:40:16,680 --> 01:40:21,675 he invented a language, so, that he could talk to her. 1259 01:40:21,840 --> 01:40:24,559 Yes, he was also a fiction writer. 1260 01:40:24,720 --> 01:40:29,430 His greatest deviation from norm, though, was his music. 1261 01:40:29,600 --> 01:40:34,629 And his requiem which he composed. It's not mystification. 1262 01:40:34,800 --> 01:40:41,433 Somewhere he writes that when he comes before his final judgement 1263 01:40:41,600 --> 01:40:45,559 he will have the score of his Requiem under his arm. 1264 01:40:45,720 --> 01:40:51,636 That is the important deviation which liberates the most and 1265 01:40:51,800 --> 01:40:54,679 increases the distance from mediocrity and the average 1266 01:40:54,840 --> 01:40:59,437 in which he felt, so, uncomfortable and incapable, 1267 01:40:59,480 --> 01:41:03,439 and it was that very centre in which: 1268 01:41:03,600 --> 01:41:07,594 Do favour for the devil and he will reward you. 1269 01:41:11,440 --> 01:41:16,674 Ré bi Castle. Pigskin Poison Puffball. 1270 01:41:17,760 --> 01:41:24,439 Well, after the war it all carried on 1271 01:41:24,640 --> 01:41:28,429 with Lukeé unleashing a humorous movement 1272 01:41:28,600 --> 01:41:32,594 with the publication "My Freedom" 1273 01:41:32,760 --> 01:41:37,755 and called Paxism. But the joke was misunderstood, 1274 01:41:37,920 --> 01:41:43,518 he was arrested in 1946 by the Secret Police 1275 01:41:43,680 --> 01:41:48,595 and taken to the nut-house spending four months there 1276 01:41:48,760 --> 01:41:53,436 and becoming professionally disqualified. 1277 01:41:53,600 --> 01:41:56,877 At the onset of the Fifties he tried a return to medicine 1278 01:41:57,520 --> 01:41:58,749 but it was no longer possible. 1279 01:41:58,920 --> 01:42:03,437 Here we are in Litomyél, here is Stakhanovite of Jan Lukeé, 1280 01:42:03,600 --> 01:42:08,515 composer MrNusék, poet Petr Kréfl... 1281 01:42:09,880 --> 01:42:13,874 Opera "Stakhanovite" you have to say. 1282 01:42:14,520 --> 01:42:18,753 That had to be for him a great project. 1283 01:42:18,920 --> 01:42:22,470 It's only a prologue, and a first and second part, 1284 01:42:22,640 --> 01:42:26,474 so, the whole had to be much thicker, God knows, 1285 01:42:26,640 --> 01:42:29,917 ifs perhaps only a half and it's a piano score in fact. 1286 01:42:30,560 --> 01:42:33,678 No, not a piano score, ifs a kind of an outline. 1287 01:42:33,880 --> 01:42:39,637 Everything is there. Even the weather and the nation's history. 1288 01:42:43,480 --> 01:42:46,518 -Are we filming it? -Let the overture begin. 1289 01:42:46,560 --> 01:42:52,795 The tuba has kind of B, but starts otherwise in a clean C... 1290 01:42:53,440 --> 01:42:55,716 He even has instrumental notes here. 1291 01:42:59,720 --> 01:43:03,554 That is ceremonial overture... 1292 01:43:03,720 --> 01:43:08,556 You know, he seems to me like 1293 01:43:08,720 --> 01:43:11,872 a cross between Smetana and Dobiéé, indeed! 1294 01:43:12,560 --> 01:43:14,915 It depends in what year he did this. 1295 01:43:15,560 --> 01:43:20,475 -Did he create it before Dobiéé? -Didn't Dobiéé steal it? 1296 01:43:20,640 --> 01:43:24,679 We'll get started on the first Act. 1297 01:43:24,840 --> 01:43:28,435 Well, here is something to get teeth into, 1298 01:43:28,600 --> 01:43:31,433 there the jungle begins 1299 01:43:31,600 --> 01:43:34,911 into which I don't dare to venture into. 1300 01:43:35,560 --> 01:43:39,679 I like the overture as it's dedicated to victors. 1301 01:43:39,840 --> 01:43:44,516 Ceremonial overture for the Police choirs. 1302 01:43:44,680 --> 01:43:47,672 So, the Police were supposed to sing in choirs. 1303 01:43:47,840 --> 01:43:51,674 And the Secret Police hidden in the orchestra, they only hum. 1304 01:43:51,840 --> 01:43:56,550 Definitely, that overture is some kind of march and 1305 01:43:56,720 --> 01:44:00,429 as one can see isn't quite finished 1306 01:44:00,600 --> 01:44:03,433 in places, a certain indication. 1307 01:44:09,440 --> 01:44:12,876 And now in unison the chorus, smoothly into it, 1308 01:44:13,560 --> 01:44:17,713 here it ends with something extremely unusual... 1309 01:44:19,520 --> 01:44:23,514 No, it isn't unusual only written strangely 1310 01:44:25,480 --> 01:44:31,829 and suddenly they begin to sing: Glory be to Marx and Engels, 1311 01:44:32,520 --> 01:44:38,675 Lenin, Stalin. 1312 01:44:38,880 --> 01:44:44,831 Fathers of the working class... 1313 01:44:45,520 --> 01:44:51,596 Now accompaniment, jumps lower, a very modern approach isn't it, 1314 01:44:56,880 --> 01:44:59,599 and now the text... 1315 01:44:59,760 --> 01:45:05,472 Thus, gave wisdom to the world, which is above all wisdom. 1316 01:45:05,640 --> 01:45:08,632 -Music thus... -Cascade-like. 1317 01:45:08,800 --> 01:45:13,715 Like the SS man, who was asked at the Nuremberg trial 1318 01:45:13,880 --> 01:45:18,477 why he did not hang the three- year old little girl in the camp. 1319 01:45:18,640 --> 01:45:22,520 "| have children, I couldn't do it." "Were you punished?" 1320 01:45:22,680 --> 01:45:24,751 "Nothing happened to me, somebody else carried it out." 1321 01:45:25,440 --> 01:45:28,796 Same, one could refuse to oo- operate with the Secret Police. 1322 01:45:29,440 --> 01:45:31,875 One could have said |won't do it, I can't do it 1323 01:45:32,520 --> 01:45:34,557 but a fair majority of people accepted it. 1324 01:45:34,720 --> 01:45:36,870 Read it, makes pleasant reading. 1325 01:45:42,640 --> 01:45:48,750 We shall calm ourselves, my butt is wet from the sand. 1326 01:45:49,560 --> 01:45:52,552 After the overture, before the actual Act starts 1327 01:45:52,720 --> 01:45:54,552 -there is the dedication. -Kare|, 1328 01:45:54,720 --> 01:45:59,556 you have to film that. 1329 01:46:04,760 --> 01:46:08,799 Lukeé thought every opera should be dedicated to a woman. 1330 01:46:09,480 --> 01:46:14,759 Indeed, Lukeé did great things in that opera. 1331 01:46:15,440 --> 01:46:23,440 He wrote the 4th and 5th Acts of 'The Bartered Bride'. 1332 01:46:26,760 --> 01:46:34,760 He got rid of Smetands happy-end. 1333 01:46:36,840 --> 01:46:41,471 He brings the Micha clan towards catastrophe. But in the end 1334 01:46:41,640 --> 01:46:45,713 Smetana's happy-end wins anyway. 1335 01:46:45,880 --> 01:46:50,431 Mafenka as the Carmelite convent Lady Superior who, 1336 01:46:50,600 --> 01:46:53,672 when at the end of her tether, 1337 01:46:53,840 --> 01:46:58,789 Jenik instead of Jesus appears to her 1338 01:46:59,480 --> 01:47:03,838 and this Jenik takes her off into that initial Smetana eden. 1339 01:47:05,440 --> 01:47:09,911 When Luke§s mother dies he loses the will to live, 1340 01:47:10,560 --> 01:47:12,870 a hand-to-mouth existence in that flat until 70, 1341 01:47:13,560 --> 01:47:16,837 himself rings the loony-bin to pick him up because 1342 01:47:17,480 --> 01:47:20,632 he claims that the s have multiplied, 1343 01:47:20,800 --> 01:47:24,634 so, much that he cannot exist there any more and really 1344 01:47:24,800 --> 01:47:29,749 when the flat is opened up a massive swarm of moths escape 1345 01:47:29,920 --> 01:47:33,595 having eaten all the bedding, 1346 01:47:33,760 --> 01:47:37,799 and because he tries to wash windows with acetone, 1347 01:47:38,480 --> 01:47:41,598 light was created as in an eclipse, 1348 01:47:41,760 --> 01:47:46,436 thus being left only with artificial light. 1349 01:47:46,480 --> 01:47:52,556 Then he was taken off to the mad-house where he died in 77. 1350 01:47:52,880 --> 01:47:58,592 Well, and to that tragic life he added a nice thought - 1351 01:47:58,760 --> 01:48:06,760 some operas and some lives are, so, tragic 1352 01:48:07,680 --> 01:48:10,638 that they are best left unfinished. 1353 01:48:11,600 --> 01:48:17,630 Every day among devils I wake, 1354 01:48:19,680 --> 01:48:24,754 slowly a devil I make 1355 01:48:26,520 --> 01:48:32,596 Every day among devils I wake, 1356 01:48:34,560 --> 01:48:39,760 slowly a devil I make 1357 01:48:40,800 --> 01:48:46,557 I know a crystal spring where thickest is the fearing, there 1358 01:48:46,720 --> 01:48:51,749 grows dark fern and around a red killer is hovering 1359 01:48:52,800 --> 01:48:57,749 to gobble dragons, and there must I day and night be of help 1360 01:48:58,440 --> 01:49:04,789 enslaved in Police-slavery be. 1361 01:49:05,480 --> 01:49:11,795 Enslaved in Police-slavery be. 1362 01:49:27,720 --> 01:49:31,634 Charter 77, the grey zone and you... 1363 01:49:35,880 --> 01:49:41,751 The conditions under the previous regime were very tough. 1364 01:49:42,440 --> 01:49:45,478 They were hard for me since 48 1365 01:49:45,640 --> 01:49:51,591 when I wrote: Litera scripta manet - 1366 01:49:51,760 --> 01:49:56,436 I wrote of the Soviet Union as a fascist set-up 1367 01:49:56,600 --> 01:49:59,797 which has nothing in common with Marxism and Socialism 1368 01:50:00,440 --> 01:50:02,716 and that it has to be removed by a new revolution. 1369 01:50:02,880 --> 01:50:07,636 I was 18 at the time, so, I could not imagine anything else 1370 01:50:07,800 --> 01:50:11,509 but a new Trockyist revolution. 1371 01:50:11,680 --> 01:50:14,718 From that time I have repeated it a hundred times and 1372 01:50:14,880 --> 01:50:19,795 I have not spent those times in clover, 1373 01:50:20,440 --> 01:50:23,717 through the Fifties, through the Sixties. 1374 01:50:23,880 --> 01:50:31,560 I must be one of the oldest dissidents, illegal since 48. 1375 01:50:31,720 --> 01:50:36,874 -Kombucha. Kunétice mountain. -The Secret police and you. 1376 01:50:37,760 --> 01:50:41,879 I have the impression that all who remember those times know 1377 01:50:42,520 --> 01:50:47,833 that the Secret Police followed all who were non-conformists, 1378 01:50:48,480 --> 01:50:51,677 which meant thousands of people. 1379 01:50:51,840 --> 01:50:57,472 What they put down in their materials, 1380 01:50:57,640 --> 01:51:01,873 they were things nobody controlled. 1381 01:51:02,520 --> 01:51:05,911 There they could write what they wanted. 1382 01:51:06,560 --> 01:51:13,637 What was found, let's say, later in the archives 1383 01:51:14,640 --> 01:51:22,640 is a question of how much those materials can be relied upon. 1384 01:51:22,840 --> 01:51:28,597 The Secret Police had interest in as many informers as possible. 1385 01:51:28,760 --> 01:51:31,832 They created false documentation and 1386 01:51:32,480 --> 01:51:37,429 to son them out is the role of historians, not mine. 1387 01:51:40,640 --> 01:51:44,873 That contact with the Secret Police visiting, 1388 01:51:45,560 --> 01:51:49,793 spying was common to all those non-conformists, 1389 01:51:50,480 --> 01:51:57,637 particularly after 68, and you can ask anybody. 1390 01:52:01,760 --> 01:52:08,439 Every day among devils I wake, 1391 01:52:10,440 --> 01:52:15,833 slowly a devil I make 1392 01:52:16,920 --> 01:52:23,633 Every day among devils I wake, 1393 01:52:25,600 --> 01:52:30,879 slowly a devil I make 1394 01:52:31,920 --> 01:52:37,757 I know a crystal spring where thickest is the fearing, there 1395 01:52:37,920 --> 01:52:44,474 grows dark fern and around a red killer is hovering 1396 01:52:44,640 --> 01:52:49,635 to gobble dragons, and there must I day and night 1397 01:52:49,800 --> 01:52:56,718 be of help enslaved in Police-slavery be. 1398 01:52:56,880 --> 01:53:04,514 Be of help enslaved in Police-slavery be. 1399 01:53:05,560 --> 01:53:08,871 But some people claim that they are completely clean... 1400 01:53:09,560 --> 01:53:15,909 The one who did not get involved remained all clean. 1401 01:53:16,560 --> 01:53:19,678 These involved people for one reason or another, 1402 01:53:19,840 --> 01:53:24,914 and were simply the majority, did it for profit or out of fear. 1403 01:53:25,560 --> 01:53:30,680 Then there were people who became involved against 1404 01:53:30,840 --> 01:53:33,912 and there were people who played it both ways. 1405 01:53:34,560 --> 01:53:38,918 Those who privately claimed that they are anti-communists and, 1406 01:53:39,560 --> 01:53:42,632 at the same time, drank in the State trough, 1407 01:53:42,800 --> 01:53:48,478 or if they were in the Arts then they did very dirty work 1408 01:53:48,640 --> 01:53:54,716 because they created, for good money, a fig-leaf for the regime 1409 01:53:54,880 --> 01:53:59,670 showing that there is a cultural and free life. 1410 01:53:59,840 --> 01:54:03,595 Of those there were many, it was a so-called grey zone. 1411 01:54:03,760 --> 01:54:09,676 Every day among devils I wake, 1412 01:54:11,600 --> 01:54:16,674 slowly a devil I make 1413 01:54:17,920 --> 01:54:24,758 Every day among devils I wake 1414 01:54:26,520 --> 01:54:32,516 slowly a devil I make 1415 01:54:32,800 --> 01:54:38,637 I know a crystal spring where thickest is the fearing, there 1416 01:54:38,800 --> 01:54:44,671 grows dark fern and around a red killer is hovering 1417 01:54:44,840 --> 01:54:49,835 to gobble dragons, and there must I day and night 1418 01:54:50,520 --> 01:54:56,914 be of help enslaved in Police-slavery be. 1419 01:54:57,560 --> 01:55:04,796 Be of help enslaved in Police-slavery be. 1420 01:55:05,440 --> 01:55:11,675 The grey zone finished with Havel. There they concentrated. 1421 01:55:11,840 --> 01:55:16,710 There he organised banquets for them. In his flat. 1422 01:55:16,880 --> 01:55:21,636 And when I had to show up, or people like me, 1423 01:55:21,800 --> 01:55:24,838 to make a show out of politesse, 1424 01:55:25,520 --> 01:55:27,511 then by hook and crook we kept at 1425 01:55:27,680 --> 01:55:30,672 arms length from those members of the grey zone, 1426 01:55:30,840 --> 01:55:34,834 and after fulfilling societal niceties we quickly departed. 1427 01:55:35,680 --> 01:55:39,435 I talked with your wife and said that you want to. 1428 01:55:39,600 --> 01:55:41,830 Otherwise, I would not start to talk about it in any way. 1429 01:55:45,640 --> 01:55:48,519 Well, don't like talking about it. 1430 01:55:54,440 --> 01:55:58,559 I'm peeved with myself that they got the signature out of me, 1431 01:55:58,720 --> 01:56:03,715 loathe those times and hate it even today, and that's it! 1432 01:56:03,880 --> 01:56:09,478 Won't talk about it, because... 1433 01:56:10,480 --> 01:56:15,759 It wouldn't be for one talk but for a whole long feature film. 1434 01:56:19,680 --> 01:56:24,709 How those pincers look like that they got the signature from you? 1435 01:56:26,560 --> 01:56:29,473 Because some pinoers there must have been. 1436 01:56:29,640 --> 01:56:31,836 Well, of course, there were pincers. 1437 01:56:47,800 --> 01:56:53,557 Surely, don't say that two gentlemen came along... well... 1438 01:56:53,720 --> 01:56:56,633 No, that's not how it was, of course. 1439 01:56:59,560 --> 01:57:02,518 Well, they invite you for interrogation, 1440 01:57:02,720 --> 01:57:09,877 put right in front of you a charge, hooliganism, 1441 01:57:14,720 --> 01:57:21,877 defamation of the Head of State, about four Articles there were. 1442 01:57:27,440 --> 01:57:32,514 I was young, stupid twenty-two year old kid. That's hard. 1443 01:57:37,400 --> 01:57:41,234 You want to make me seem... There are two possibilities. 1444 01:57:41,400 --> 01:57:46,076 Either you make me look an ass who allows scars to be drawn. 1445 01:57:46,240 --> 01:57:50,313 The hate-mail came - you had it done at the Film Studios anyway. 1446 01:57:50,960 --> 01:57:56,160 It's actually happening. Well, they were awful letters. 1447 01:57:56,320 --> 01:58:03,192 Or you want me, and admit it, that you're such a wag that 1448 01:58:03,360 --> 01:58:09,276 it'll be a sort of psycho- theatre where you want to create 1449 01:58:09,440 --> 01:58:15,197 an atmosphere, so, you get the upper hand. 1450 01:58:15,360 --> 01:58:18,193 In order to cut into me. But I won't let that happen. 1451 01:58:18,360 --> 01:58:22,240 Notice that you don't feel that bad 'til now. 1452 01:58:23,080 --> 01:58:26,357 In the moment when you start to paint a scar over my face 1453 01:58:27,000 --> 01:58:31,437 -you are reaching into my soul... -I am asking your permission. 1454 01:58:32,280 --> 01:58:38,037 Would you scar me on my hand perhaps? 1455 01:58:39,040 --> 01:58:44,069 It's my film. Do it dear make-up artist. 1456 01:58:44,240 --> 01:58:51,112 On the hand, you can even do it on mine. 1457 01:58:58,080 --> 01:59:00,993 First on this hand... 1458 01:59:02,200 --> 01:59:04,396 At least I'll know how it's clone. 1459 01:59:05,280 --> 01:59:08,079 Wouldn't it be easier to out me? 1460 01:59:09,240 --> 01:59:12,278 Castle. Clouded Aggric. 1461 01:59:12,440 --> 01:59:16,195 As Villon knifes him I said to myself - "Man, 1462 01:59:16,360 --> 01:59:22,117 I need it like in the pictures blood seeping from the mouth." 1463 01:59:22,280 --> 01:59:25,238 Nobody knew how to do it and in Brno we ran into 1464 01:59:25,400 --> 01:59:32,272 a friend of Bolek Polivka, Mr. Pecha, and he said: buy a condom, 1465 01:59:32,440 --> 01:59:36,229 fill it up with red-dye used in the processing industry. 1466 01:59:36,400 --> 01:59:42,271 That sack used for sperms, tie it well, snip it and 1467 01:59:42,440 --> 01:59:48,118 -put in the mouth... -Czech dye processing. 1468 01:59:48,280 --> 01:59:52,114 ...then you bite and it works. I have two grand memories of that. 1469 01:59:52,280 --> 01:59:59,936 First, I asked the lady producer if she'd go and buy some condoms 1470 01:59:59,960 --> 02:00:00,438 First, I asked the lady producer if she'd go and buy some condoms 1471 02:00:01,080 --> 02:00:03,435 and she says - how many? I ask, how many times do you repeat 1472 02:00:04,120 --> 02:00:08,193 and she said 150 times, so, I said go and buy 200 condoms. 1473 02:00:10,000 --> 02:00:16,997 She goes into the chemists and asks the sales-lady for condoms, 1474 02:00:17,160 --> 02:00:20,391 how many she retorts, two hundred says she. 1475 02:00:21,040 --> 02:00:25,193 The girls' eyes bulged and sold it to her, 1476 02:00:25,360 --> 02:00:29,194 and the production woman says, hang on, I need a receipt. 1477 02:00:29,360 --> 02:00:34,309 And the other one where an actor nearly died because of it. 1478 02:00:34,960 --> 02:00:42,960 Because he breathed the dye in, after the twenty-fifth take, 1479 02:00:46,320 --> 02:00:51,235 well, the natural dye basically affected his bronchial tubes and 1480 02:00:51,400 --> 02:00:55,234 he started to croak something rotten on that stage, 1481 02:00:55,400 --> 02:01:00,031 and we all sat and commented: Christ, he's brilliant 1482 02:01:00,200 --> 02:01:04,353 how he's feigning his death, and he really was dying. 1483 02:01:06,200 --> 02:01:12,071 Now we can wash it off. Come over here please... 1484 02:01:12,240 --> 02:01:14,311 Great, you weren't listening to me in the slightest. 1485 02:01:14,440 --> 02:01:16,158 I was listening. 1486 02:01:22,240 --> 02:01:24,356 And that's how I looked. 1487 02:01:25,000 --> 02:01:29,312 It was terrible. When I got to the Parliament reception 1488 02:01:29,960 --> 02:01:36,275 I was shaking all over, I had this shawl which was all red 1489 02:01:36,440 --> 02:01:40,354 and I said: "lads, I need something to drink." 1490 02:01:41,160 --> 02:01:45,393 Before I had a sip of the mineral-water it was blood-red. 1491 02:01:46,040 --> 02:01:48,236 What does it prove? 1492 02:01:51,000 --> 02:01:54,152 You used that Czech processing dye on me... 1493 02:02:05,120 --> 02:02:10,354 Yeah, and I kept that for luck. It's from my daughter. 1494 02:02:14,440 --> 02:02:17,432 How does it look - right beside the kisser- 1495 02:02:18,080 --> 02:02:25,396 it's interesting, seems as if my nose is all huge... 1496 02:02:26,080 --> 02:02:29,357 -Almost gothic. -I now look... 1497 02:02:30,400 --> 02:02:36,999 My wife sometimes says that I look like a half-crazed Arab. 1498 02:02:38,000 --> 02:02:39,399 Well, ifs pretty unique. 1499 02:02:40,080 --> 02:02:45,109 I've got one 36 year old Sara and swear that 1500 02:02:45,280 --> 02:02:49,035 squabbles notwithstanding 1501 02:02:49,200 --> 02:02:51,999 and even with stand-up battles and fist fights 1502 02:02:52,160 --> 02:02:55,278 I'll stay with her until the end. And let it last twice as long. 1503 02:02:55,440 --> 02:02:58,398 My brother keeps switching his women too much. 1504 02:02:59,040 --> 02:03:01,998 The first one from the bridge, second under the train, 1505 02:03:02,160 --> 02:03:07,360 third out the window, the 4th went for KniZék. 1506 02:03:09,040 --> 02:03:14,194 It's not worth getting divorced. It's better not getting married. 1507 02:03:14,360 --> 02:03:17,955 That's what our dad said, lads don't bother. He was happy 1508 02:03:18,120 --> 02:03:24,036 in his marriage which lasted over fifty years. 1509 02:03:24,200 --> 02:03:30,355 No point in kicking a dog. Anyone can do that. 1510 02:03:31,040 --> 02:03:38,071 The thing is to rescue it and care for it until the end. 1511 02:03:38,320 --> 02:03:41,312 Velhartice. Common Scaber Stalk. 1512 02:03:42,080 --> 02:03:47,234 Cain and Abel. Now you're Abel because your brother has left. 1513 02:03:47,280 --> 02:03:50,272 -Now I am Cain and Abel. -Why did he leave? 1514 02:03:50,440 --> 02:03:54,229 Took of fence. The millionaire felt slighted 1515 02:03:54,400 --> 02:03:59,429 that the dog is barred. Maybe he related that to himself. 1516 02:04:01,160 --> 02:04:06,997 Pity. To have such wealth, I'd do good deeds. 1517 02:04:07,160 --> 02:04:11,154 Christian charity to have such money. 1518 02:04:11,320 --> 02:04:14,233 Brother isn't charitable? -No. 1519 02:04:16,240 --> 02:04:22,077 When I pressed him to give some money to the dog-shelter, 1520 02:04:22,240 --> 02:04:26,996 then true enough he did. Sent them a thousand crowns. 1521 02:04:27,160 --> 02:04:32,951 Well, I am a real poor man but I parted with a bit more. 1522 02:04:33,120 --> 02:04:35,111 But you're a famous pauper. 1523 02:04:35,280 --> 02:04:38,238 Fame does not buy you anything but some dosh has remained... 1524 02:04:38,400 --> 02:04:44,032 This dog is very valuable, they got twenty thousand for him. 1525 02:04:45,360 --> 02:04:49,035 -There are wasps here. -I have a theory that 1526 02:04:49,200 --> 02:04:53,080 people either cling to fate or to their inner-self. 1527 02:04:53,240 --> 02:04:56,278 And that fate is by and large pre-determined. 1528 02:04:56,440 --> 02:04:59,353 A number of causes and consequences are determined, 1529 02:05:00,000 --> 02:05:02,992 and if you hang (on the other hand) to your inner-self, 1530 02:05:03,160 --> 02:05:07,996 then you can bring in moments that aren't pre-ordained. 1531 02:05:08,160 --> 02:05:10,151 And disturb the determinism. 1532 02:05:10,320 --> 02:05:15,156 You draw erotic pictures and he takes erotic photographs. 1533 02:05:17,040 --> 02:05:20,317 You have an inner-self and you have the will to hang on to it 1534 02:05:21,000 --> 02:05:23,116 and, thus, it's the only will which you can show. 1535 02:05:23,280 --> 02:05:28,195 You let go, you enter the fate, you hang on, you enter the self. 1536 02:05:28,360 --> 02:05:31,159 You're simply talking about intuition. 1537 02:05:31,320 --> 02:05:36,315 -Nothing else but intuition. -And will. 1538 02:05:37,040 --> 02:05:41,159 No. Intuition gets you inside for the truth. 1539 02:05:43,160 --> 02:05:48,030 -That's also a word for it. -Not just a word, it's the truth. 1540 02:05:48,200 --> 02:05:50,271 And without intuition you cannot get there. 1541 02:05:50,440 --> 02:05:53,159 How can you reach the inner-self if you don't have it. 1542 02:05:54,040 --> 02:05:56,236 In the first place, you have to know what the inner-self is, 1543 02:05:56,400 --> 02:05:59,199 how to reach it. That's intuition in fact. 1544 02:06:01,240 --> 02:06:05,996 In the Lucerna hall recently I gave a talk and 1545 02:06:06,160 --> 02:06:09,278 the question was: has a being free will? 1546 02:06:09,440 --> 02:06:17,440 Free will comes with free spirit. His will along with God's will. 1547 02:06:20,160 --> 02:06:25,314 But if one has karma-like commitments, VASAN, 1548 02:06:26,000 --> 02:06:27,991 then cannot have free will. In other words, 1549 02:06:28,160 --> 02:06:33,280 has and hasn't free will, his will is basically God's will but 1550 02:06:33,440 --> 02:06:39,118 in a human being is clouded by need and, thereby, is not free. 1551 02:06:39,280 --> 02:06:45,117 If he hangs on to that rope which is really his inner-self, 1552 02:06:45,280 --> 02:06:47,032 then is hanging on to God. 1553 02:06:47,200 --> 02:06:53,196 -That's right. -To hang on to the inner-self. 1554 02:06:55,080 --> 02:06:59,233 When you talk about intuition. 1555 02:07:00,440 --> 02:07:05,958 Intuition is, in fact, the inner. What else can it be? 1556 02:07:06,120 --> 02:07:08,111 It's the truth sent out of the inner-self. 1557 02:07:08,280 --> 02:07:12,990 -Intellect is from the outside. -That's nice, you use it. 1558 02:07:13,160 --> 02:07:19,190 That's why your content is that little bit different then... 1559 02:07:20,360 --> 02:07:26,231 When someone makes a mistake in one's life, is a police nark, 1560 02:07:26,400 --> 02:07:29,392 and in the meantime creates beautiful music - 1561 02:07:30,080 --> 02:07:32,310 what's happening? 1562 02:07:33,000 --> 02:07:38,279 In that music he's almost perfect but in life - awful... 1563 02:07:38,440 --> 02:07:44,152 I say that one follows a path which is given when one is born, 1564 02:07:44,320 --> 02:07:48,075 a line which leads to one's liberation but, 1565 02:07:48,240 --> 02:07:52,313 perhaps, leans to the left, makes that mistake but, 1566 02:07:52,960 --> 02:07:58,956 again, comes closer with that music or some creativity. 1567 02:07:59,120 --> 02:08:02,431 You know, art is a way towards the middle and 1568 02:08:03,120 --> 02:08:07,079 one day it happens that one is united with that centre, 1569 02:08:07,240 --> 02:08:13,077 or if not, is rapped over the knuckles, pays penance. 1570 02:08:13,240 --> 02:08:17,120 Well, if he makes a mistake as an advanced human being 1571 02:08:17,280 --> 02:08:20,432 who is hanging on to that inner rope, 1572 02:08:21,120 --> 02:08:25,990 then that person is rapped right away. It's a karma levelling out. 1573 02:08:26,160 --> 02:08:31,030 When it's a person who's strayed a lot from that central path 1574 02:08:31,200 --> 02:08:35,194 then he is not rapped right away. That is why people say: 1575 02:08:35,360 --> 02:08:40,116 how is it possible that I, who is such a good person 1576 02:08:40,280 --> 02:08:45,958 and who tries to do lots of good, remains persecuted by fate. 1577 02:08:46,120 --> 02:08:49,317 The thing is that he won't be full of good deeds either. 1578 02:08:49,960 --> 02:08:54,193 But the one who is a long way apart, 1579 02:08:54,360 --> 02:08:59,230 he can be capable of lots of misdeeds and stay unpunished. 1580 02:08:59,400 --> 02:09:03,075 There is a koén in the Bible: 1581 02:09:03,240 --> 02:09:06,073 who does harm, keeps harming further. 1582 02:09:06,240 --> 02:09:09,278 And there is also, who reeks - reeks further. 1583 02:09:09,440 --> 02:09:12,398 There's a joke for this. 1584 02:09:13,080 --> 02:09:16,960 As a stater falls from the 24th floor he keeps saying, 1585 02:09:17,120 --> 02:09:22,149 ifs still all right, and keeps repeating it. 1586 02:09:23,040 --> 02:09:26,317 And that is the one who is not advanced very much. 1587 02:09:27,000 --> 02:09:29,435 It takes a long time. Of course, he hits the ground. 1588 02:09:30,000 --> 02:09:33,391 When one has not advanced much then the karma alternates. 1589 02:09:34,080 --> 02:09:38,199 It comes in the next life, because all situations 1590 02:09:38,360 --> 02:09:43,150 repeat themselves mirror-like until total extinction. 1591 02:09:43,320 --> 02:09:48,076 The one who does harm today will also do harm in the next lives 1592 02:09:48,240 --> 02:09:52,074 and people will wonder that such a rogue does such damage. 1593 02:09:52,240 --> 02:09:55,358 And nothing happens to him. Why, where is God Almighty'? 1594 02:09:56,000 --> 02:09:59,277 But suddenly it comes and he doesn't know why. 1595 02:09:59,440 --> 02:09:59,936 And there's another koén in the Bible - 1596 02:09:59,960 --> 02:10:03,237 And there's another koén in the Bible - 1597 02:10:03,400 --> 02:10:09,032 I'm not a believer of the Bible but I respect the worthy bits. 1598 02:10:09,200 --> 02:10:15,310 There's a koén: struck blind doesn't know what he suffers for. 1599 02:10:16,000 --> 02:10:22,440 I watched films of your lectures in the Lucerna hall. 1600 02:10:23,120 --> 02:10:27,239 But I was horrified how much you pressed to the bone. 1601 02:10:27,400 --> 02:10:32,315 Listener should have a release of joy, they are terrified. 1602 02:10:33,000 --> 02:10:39,269 They are wound up. They have to think. It's working within them. 1603 02:10:40,080 --> 02:10:42,435 Maybe they start thinking when they get home. 1604 02:10:43,080 --> 02:10:48,393 In Luoerna they sit and pursue the philosophy, the truth, 1605 02:10:49,040 --> 02:10:51,998 and don't swallow it right away. A few might but not the majority. 1606 02:10:52,040 --> 02:10:56,113 Are you sure that's how it is. 1607 02:10:56,320 --> 02:11:03,033 The good effect can come straight away in everyone. 1608 02:11:03,200 --> 02:11:07,080 I saw a few completely falling apart. 1609 02:11:07,240 --> 02:11:10,278 Proof is in the number of letters. 1610 02:11:10,440 --> 02:11:14,070 Their gratitude for what they experienced. 1611 02:11:14,240 --> 02:11:19,189 But a teacher who has not experienced it should not teach. 1612 02:11:19,360 --> 02:11:23,991 The main thing is to produce the atmosphere 1613 02:11:24,160 --> 02:11:28,996 in order that the people get caught by it. 1614 02:11:29,160 --> 02:11:33,313 They can read the words in any common spiritual book. 1615 02:11:33,960 --> 02:11:36,315 When I walk to the stage, although 1616 02:11:37,000 --> 02:11:41,198 it will sound a little shallow, 1617 02:11:41,360 --> 02:11:45,319 I say to myself: Dear God, help me and here we go. 1618 02:11:46,000 --> 02:11:50,312 And I never prepare for it. I let the inner-self speak, 1619 02:11:51,000 --> 02:11:54,959 hang on to the rope as you put it, let the inner speak. 1620 02:11:55,120 --> 02:11:58,317 And I respond to any spiritual question. 1621 02:11:59,000 --> 02:12:05,440 If somebody asks whether they should get divorced, get married 1622 02:12:06,080 --> 02:12:11,280 or build a summer-house I refuse to answer such a question. 1623 02:12:12,040 --> 02:12:16,034 As I say, I don't have the software for it. 1624 02:12:29,120 --> 02:12:33,353 You are getting inside with the help of that intuition, 1625 02:12:34,000 --> 02:12:38,119 but your intuition is moreover double-edged. 1626 02:12:38,280 --> 02:12:43,195 Don't film it. I will put it to you bluntly. 1627 02:12:43,360 --> 02:12:50,391 But that inside, well if I say Dear God help and here we go, 1628 02:12:51,080 --> 02:12:56,154 and even more accurate would be Dear God let's go. 1629 02:12:58,120 --> 02:13:03,354 Whom should He help? Himself'? Don't need it. Me? Don't need it. 1630 02:13:04,000 --> 02:13:08,073 Dear God let's go and I go with that, that divinity. Yes. 1631 02:13:08,240 --> 02:13:11,073 The divinity is indeed in unity. 1632 02:13:11,240 --> 02:13:17,111 The unity will answer the moment when the question is put. 1633 02:13:17,280 --> 02:13:25,280 Well, you move as you should, say what you mean. 1634 02:13:28,040 --> 02:13:35,231 No, I don't say it. It is said as it should be. 1635 02:13:35,400 --> 02:13:43,034 I only lend as a person my voice or hearing and so on. 1636 02:13:43,200 --> 02:13:49,355 What someone says the BIG EAR hears it. 1637 02:13:52,000 --> 02:13:54,310 Not I. That BIG EAR hears it. 1638 02:13:54,960 --> 02:13:57,031 Can you also say that you are looking through this? 1639 02:13:59,000 --> 02:14:01,037 You mean through the heart? 1640 02:14:01,200 --> 02:14:05,159 Well, here those people work it when they can. 1641 02:14:05,400 --> 02:14:11,316 The internals, they sit there and seem to feel it. 1642 02:14:12,000 --> 02:14:15,231 They really feel it but they are on various levels, so, 1643 02:14:15,400 --> 02:14:18,074 they have different reactions. 1644 02:14:18,240 --> 02:14:25,078 The advanced are wholly clean like, as if they're shining. 1645 02:14:25,240 --> 02:14:29,996 And if they're not advanced then it somehow nudges them along. 1646 02:14:30,160 --> 02:14:35,189 I always hope that it also goes into the subconscious... 1647 02:14:35,360 --> 02:14:39,274 They even carry babies there and seemingly it stays in them. 1648 02:14:39,440 --> 02:14:44,435 I thought I don't need to film, enough I project them in my mind. 1649 02:14:46,080 --> 02:14:50,278 20 years I wasn't allowed to make films and I always felt busy. 1650 02:14:50,440 --> 02:14:53,080 You are doing something with God's help. 1651 02:14:53,240 --> 02:14:57,393 What if you let God work a bit more and you work less. 1652 02:14:58,040 --> 02:15:02,432 Well, of course. I try to do that all the time. 1653 02:15:03,080 --> 02:15:06,152 Maybe from now on you will work even better. 1654 02:15:10,440 --> 02:15:17,392 Storks have transmitters which have a radius often kilometres. 1655 02:15:18,040 --> 02:15:22,238 Now, we hear the young ones. Old birds are not present. 1656 02:15:24,040 --> 02:15:27,158 We shall look what the young ones are doing. 1657 02:15:33,040 --> 02:15:36,271 They are atop the nest. 1658 02:15:39,360 --> 02:15:43,194 In 1995 we tagged 3 black storks. 1659 02:15:43,360 --> 02:15:46,239 They were called Christine, Victor and Suzanne. 1660 02:15:46,400 --> 02:15:50,314 Christine flew to western Africa as far as Senegal, 1661 02:15:51,000 --> 02:15:54,391 Victor to Chad and Suzanne to eastern Ethiopia. 1662 02:15:55,080 --> 02:15:58,391 The three storks returned safe and sound 1663 02:15:59,080 --> 02:16:04,200 and the following year we gave Christine and Suzanne new packs. 1664 02:16:05,080 --> 02:16:07,435 Victor got himself lost. 1665 02:16:08,080 --> 02:16:10,356 I get depressed because of this. That one dreams that 1666 02:16:11,000 --> 02:16:17,155 -lots more can be improved... -We also say this to ourselves. 1667 02:16:17,320 --> 02:16:21,314 We are aware that people are full of negativity 1668 02:16:22,000 --> 02:16:25,277 -that one can't overcome it. -I don't say it anymore. 1669 02:16:29,200 --> 02:16:32,397 I leave it in God's hands. 1670 02:16:33,080 --> 02:16:38,029 If All could do everything, All would be done faster. 1671 02:16:38,200 --> 02:16:43,195 But it's somehow related to the matter. 1672 02:16:43,360 --> 02:16:47,115 But all is in the mind, even the matter. 1673 02:16:47,280 --> 02:16:52,434 It's all indeed It. Nothing else than that clean, 1674 02:16:53,120 --> 02:16:57,273 as Buddha said, original thought. And that is All. 1675 02:16:57,400 --> 02:17:01,314 That 'phone, that tomato, everything, 1676 02:17:01,960 --> 02:17:06,989 that cat there, it's all It. From It with a capital I. 1677 02:17:07,160 --> 02:17:12,439 There is nothing else, we have to reach this vital thought 1678 02:17:13,120 --> 02:17:17,239 in order to comprehend the meaning and purpose of it all. 1679 02:17:20,360 --> 02:17:25,150 -It may seem to us... -Have some, Mr.Oameraman! 1680 02:17:26,120 --> 02:17:31,069 ...that it goes slowly. Why'? Because our lives are short. 1681 02:17:31,240 --> 02:17:37,156 We live, so, short a time that it seems slow to us. 1682 02:17:37,440 --> 02:17:44,198 But if we comprehend that the cosmos is billions of years old. 1683 02:17:44,360 --> 02:17:47,193 Do you know how long the universe lasts? 1684 02:17:47,400 --> 02:17:50,438 It's one Brahm year. What is one Brahm year'? 1685 02:17:51,080 --> 02:17:59,079 Imagine a marble cube one kilometre long at its side. 1686 02:17:59,240 --> 02:18:01,277 Kilometre by kilometre. 1687 02:18:01,440 --> 02:18:07,197 Alongside the cube flies a small bird, say, a swallow 1688 02:18:07,360 --> 02:18:11,035 or yogi in an ochre cloak. 1689 02:18:11,200 --> 02:18:17,037 And as the swallow touches the cube 1690 02:18:17,200 --> 02:18:21,990 with its feather 1691 02:18:22,160 --> 02:18:27,234 and the cube is wiped off the face of the Earth, 1692 02:18:27,400 --> 02:18:32,156 then that is one Brahm year. So, there's enough time. 1693 02:18:32,320 --> 02:18:35,438 God Almighty has lots of it. Time eternal. 1694 02:18:36,080 --> 02:18:39,232 We should take it on board in order not to hurry, so, much. 1695 02:18:39,400 --> 02:18:42,074 I know, but I always seem to myself like a tube 1696 02:18:42,240 --> 02:18:45,437 through which It is meant to go and would wish to be 1697 02:18:46,080 --> 02:18:50,199 a very wide tube, so, that it all could happen. 1698 02:18:50,360 --> 02:18:56,072 -What is Czech in all this? -Czech? 1699 02:18:58,320 --> 02:19:03,156 It's all Czech. It's universal too. 1700 02:19:04,000 --> 02:19:08,119 It seems to me that everyone is coming from different directions 1701 02:19:08,280 --> 02:19:13,992 and that the language we speak, the way of using concepts, 1702 02:19:14,160 --> 02:19:18,996 always enables us to take a different path, alternative ways. 1703 02:19:19,160 --> 02:19:22,994 I like that. That there exists also the Czech way. 1704 02:19:23,160 --> 02:19:27,074 Because mankind is a kaleidoscope of people. 1705 02:19:27,240 --> 02:19:30,392 Chateau at Hluboké. Bitter Bolete. 1706 02:19:31,400 --> 02:19:34,199 So, it must be a little different for everyone. 1707 02:19:34,360 --> 02:19:39,389 That Indian won't understand our religion or Christianity, 1708 02:19:40,080 --> 02:19:43,277 like a Christian will find it hard to understand Indians. 1709 02:19:48,040 --> 02:19:55,231 Some elements are still relevant to me. 1710 02:19:56,040 --> 02:19:59,936 What is typically catholic? 1711 02:19:59,960 --> 02:20:01,280 What is typically catholic? 1712 02:20:01,440 --> 02:20:07,311 The liturgy, symbolism, that mystical tradition, and, so, on. 1713 02:20:07,960 --> 02:20:13,160 That's one side. And then there is the hierarchical structure 1714 02:20:13,320 --> 02:20:19,157 and that massive organisation, that powerful wealthy church 1715 02:20:19,320 --> 02:20:22,199 and that wasn't my cup of tea. 1716 02:20:22,360 --> 02:20:30,360 I'm for the link of the catholic, in the good sense, with freedom 1717 02:20:32,080 --> 02:20:36,233 or with a gentlemanly approach having trust in people. 1718 02:20:36,400 --> 02:20:41,031 It wasn't there and I tried to do something for it to be there. 1719 02:20:41,200 --> 02:20:44,955 But it did not seem to be working out and, in the end, 1720 02:20:45,120 --> 02:20:49,034 I was rejected and decided to find a community 1721 02:20:49,200 --> 02:20:51,396 where these elements, which are vital to me, are united. 1722 02:20:52,080 --> 02:20:55,391 That means tradition and a certain trust and freedom. 1723 02:20:56,080 --> 02:21:03,032 Opposite the Petiin labyrinth is the church of Old Catholicism. 1724 02:21:03,200 --> 02:21:07,034 -That is your new church. -Yes, you could say that 1725 02:21:07,200 --> 02:21:12,149 I went through a labyrinth, via many mirrors, I anchored here. 1726 02:21:12,320 --> 02:21:17,269 We followed Suzanne to Ethiopia but we only found her backpack. 1727 02:21:17,440 --> 02:21:22,992 -Media is also like a mirror. Because a villager killed her. 1728 02:21:23,160 --> 02:21:27,358 So, after the winter of 96/97 only Christine returned. 1729 02:21:28,040 --> 02:21:32,398 And apart from her we tagged her present partner called Jacob. 1730 02:21:33,040 --> 02:21:35,429 We wanted to tag her young ones too but 1731 02:21:36,080 --> 02:21:40,392 when they were five weeks old a hailstorm came and all died. 1732 02:21:41,040 --> 02:21:42,439 The hailstones literally beat them to death. 1733 02:21:43,120 --> 02:21:45,236 Media knows what it wants 1734 02:21:45,400 --> 02:21:49,109 from their readers or listeners or their audience. 1735 02:21:49,280 --> 02:21:54,070 Thus, I think that it simply became an affair, 1736 02:21:54,240 --> 02:21:57,312 and became well known and I am glad that 1737 02:21:57,960 --> 02:22:01,999 I can talk about it sometimes as I think fit. 1738 02:22:04,200 --> 02:22:09,115 It would be fine if there were more listeners of this song... 1739 02:22:29,440 --> 02:22:33,195 Who goes constantly to the left will find himself on the right, 1740 02:22:33,360 --> 02:22:37,115 who goes right all the time ends up on the left, 1741 02:22:37,280 --> 02:22:40,989 who goes forward all the time will finds himself at the back, 1742 02:22:41,160 --> 02:22:44,152 who goes backwards will be at the front - 1743 02:22:44,320 --> 02:22:48,439 because round is the world, round is the world... 1744 02:22:55,960 --> 02:22:59,430 Earth is roundlee and cow is Milkee. 1745 02:23:04,040 --> 02:23:07,351 Who goes constantly westwards will find himself in the east 1746 02:23:08,040 --> 02:23:11,158 and who goes ever eastwards arrives in the west. 1747 02:23:11,320 --> 02:23:14,438 Who goes northwards will find himself in the south 1748 02:23:15,080 --> 02:23:18,072 and who goes ever south arrives in the north 1749 02:23:18,240 --> 02:23:24,998 because round is the Earth, the Earth is round. 1750 02:23:26,440 --> 02:23:30,115 Well then, comrade Scythe said: 1751 02:23:30,280 --> 02:23:34,353 Comradely greeting sister, you also are an early riser. 1752 02:23:35,000 --> 02:23:39,119 Comrade Chirpy answers: You see comrade, I have to every day 1753 02:23:39,280 --> 02:23:43,069 as I live, so, far away on the other side of Prague. 1754 02:23:43,240 --> 02:23:47,199 And they sing it on such a note. 1755 02:23:49,120 --> 02:23:53,273 Comradely greeting sister, 1756 02:23:56,440 --> 02:24:01,150 you are also an early riseeeer... 1757 02:24:01,360 --> 02:24:03,317 How are you feeling here? 1758 02:24:03,960 --> 02:24:08,352 I am feeling OK overall but I have some difficulties 1759 02:24:09,040 --> 02:24:13,159 as people keep switching things put them somewhere else 1760 02:24:13,320 --> 02:24:19,032 to make it look good here. As a result I cannot find anything. 1761 02:24:20,080 --> 02:24:23,311 That's the nub. 1762 02:24:23,960 --> 02:24:27,351 They took away my bottle-opener for the beer. 1763 02:24:28,000 --> 02:24:30,355 I found the bottle-opener on top of the fridge, 1764 02:24:31,000 --> 02:24:34,197 why did they put it there? 1765 02:24:34,360 --> 02:24:38,399 It was in their way, weren't it. Terrible people here. 1766 02:24:39,200 --> 02:24:44,274 I have sixteen cassettes at home, they wanted me to film EGO. 1767 02:24:44,440 --> 02:24:48,149 They thought that I would film 1768 02:24:48,320 --> 02:24:53,076 my satisfied well-deserved old-age pension, 1769 02:24:53,240 --> 02:24:57,393 how I am making scrambled eggs or how I go and feed the birdies. 1770 02:24:58,080 --> 02:25:04,395 I shot EGO and I was interested in things which I came across. 1771 02:25:05,040 --> 02:25:09,989 Crazy things. Over-priced medicines, frauds, no shame, 1772 02:25:10,160 --> 02:25:15,314 nonsensical heating bills because of their incompetence. 1773 02:25:15,360 --> 02:25:21,436 I complained to the Health Min. and I went in with a camera 1774 02:25:22,080 --> 02:25:26,313 and in the end we were led out by the guards. 1775 02:25:27,120 --> 02:25:29,430 And you shot something about 1776 02:25:30,120 --> 02:25:34,193 a school where the students created a revolution. 1777 02:25:34,400 --> 02:25:38,030 -I did shoot that. -What use was it? 1778 02:25:38,200 --> 02:25:41,158 Worthless. It was for nothing. 1779 02:25:46,360 --> 02:25:50,399 It is a long story, there were Secret Policemen in it, 1780 02:25:51,080 --> 02:25:54,436 that material was condemned not to see the light of day. 1781 02:25:56,000 --> 02:26:00,198 And the reason was that the TV Managing Director 1782 02:26:00,240 --> 02:26:05,110 showed himself to be tied up with the Secret Police. 1783 02:26:05,240 --> 02:26:11,236 That means that if you cut the documentary 1784 02:26:14,080 --> 02:26:17,038 you would use it in a story. 1785 02:26:18,160 --> 02:26:20,037 I wanted to. 1786 02:26:21,000 --> 02:26:23,310 It's useless. 1787 02:26:26,440 --> 02:26:31,037 The story should have been about a higher moral principle. 1788 02:26:31,200 --> 02:26:38,277 You're such a wizard that you're pleased the nonsense surfaces. 1789 02:26:38,440 --> 02:26:44,152 No, it is nonsense. It is all nonsense dear friends. 1790 02:26:44,320 --> 02:26:50,396 -It's your creative joy. -Film up shit-creek... 1791 02:26:51,080 --> 02:26:57,998 I don't know what I should talk about. I said: get ready for it. 1792 02:27:00,000 --> 02:27:03,311 When I do something I have to be sure that firstly, 1793 02:27:03,960 --> 02:27:06,270 secondly, thirdly, fourthly - and where it is all leading. 1794 02:27:06,440 --> 02:27:10,115 I cannot improvise like this. 1795 02:27:13,080 --> 02:27:16,152 I do not know why you brought me here. Into this misfortune, 1796 02:27:16,320 --> 02:27:22,430 I'll ride a horse, look, cowboys are riding, I'll ride a horse. 1797 02:27:25,320 --> 02:27:31,191 You yourself have a right to shoot something sensible. 1798 02:27:32,240 --> 02:27:34,231 I do not have a right to anything any more. 1799 02:27:34,400 --> 02:27:38,234 We are in the hands of lunatics, yep, 1800 02:27:38,400 --> 02:27:42,234 irresponsible people make decisions for us. 1801 02:27:42,400 --> 02:27:46,997 -I often think that too. -I always think that. 1802 02:27:48,160 --> 02:27:53,030 It's nonsense that I am here in the dust, 1803 02:27:53,200 --> 02:27:57,990 cowboys, America that's where you've brought me. 1804 02:27:58,160 --> 02:28:01,391 When I die... 1805 02:28:07,120 --> 02:28:09,999 They're talking to me like an idiot already. 1806 02:28:10,160 --> 02:28:15,075 You sent me to the film bosses, you knew it was all shit. 1807 02:28:15,240 --> 02:28:19,120 I hope something will come of it. 1808 02:28:20,000 --> 02:28:24,278 You hope foolishly, I know that nothing will come of it. 1809 02:28:24,440 --> 02:28:30,231 Those people have no interest in it, they didn't even see it. 1810 02:28:31,200 --> 02:28:35,159 100s they don't understand it. -That is our tragedy. 1811 02:28:35,320 --> 02:28:39,359 That somebody is in charge of something they don't understand. 1812 02:28:40,000 --> 02:28:45,279 But here in the Czech lands it is a constant principle, you see. 1813 02:28:45,440 --> 02:28:48,114 That is why we are heading for disaster. 1814 02:28:48,280 --> 02:28:52,319 Well yes, because those communists and those policemen 1815 02:28:52,360 --> 02:28:58,117 renamed their young cadres perhaps as managers. 1816 02:29:02,320 --> 02:29:06,029 I cannot think of it now. 1817 02:29:08,000 --> 02:29:10,276 They're driving towards destruction. 1818 02:29:10,440 --> 02:29:16,152 Now, we will continue - Mr. Hysek and MrStankovié will enter- 1819 02:29:22,280 --> 02:29:24,999 That chair is wet. 1820 02:29:26,240 --> 02:29:34,113 So, we had the opening scene of the opera "Stakhanovites". 1821 02:29:34,280 --> 02:29:37,432 Which is dedicated to MrsGottwald (wife of Pres). 1822 02:29:38,120 --> 02:29:42,034 She's pinning gongs on them. I don't know their names. 1823 02:29:42,200 --> 02:29:49,197 They have names. Something like Koubek and Gavlas. 1824 02:29:49,360 --> 02:29:51,158 Simplas. 1825 02:29:51,320 --> 02:29:55,029 BOHEMIA DOCTA (Scholarly Czechs) 1826 02:29:55,200 --> 02:29:59,936 Is the third part of the tetralogy "LITTLE CAPITALIST" 1827 02:29:59,960 --> 02:30:00,199 is the third part of the tetralogy "LITTLE CAPITALIST" 1828 02:30:00,360 --> 02:30:05,309 1.1 NEW HYPERION 2.1 WHAT IS TO BE DONE? 1829 02:30:06,000 --> 02:30:08,389 4.: {being completed} 1830 02:30:10,040 --> 02:30:12,350 Let's talk about the canteen scene. 1831 02:30:13,240 --> 02:30:21,240 They took the bottle-opener, was it in their way? 1832 02:30:23,400 --> 02:30:26,438 It wasn't in their way, they're just tidying up. 1833 02:30:27,120 --> 02:30:30,351 They want it to be tidy. I will write 1834 02:30:31,040 --> 02:30:34,396 here for the table to be left as it is my private property. 1835 02:30:35,080 --> 02:30:37,196 In your serial, the Quick Arrows also cleaned up everywhere. 1836 02:30:37,360 --> 02:30:41,115 Well yes, but that was a magazine...ha, ha... 1837 02:30:42,240 --> 02:30:46,074 We found out that in the High School 1838 02:30:46,240 --> 02:30:51,235 in Ceske} Tfebové the Headmaster, Josef Cebié, committed suicide. 1839 02:30:51,400 --> 02:30:55,109 All of you who contributed to his death, 1840 02:30:55,280 --> 02:31:00,116 and there is no other way of putting it, you are murderers. 1841 02:31:00,280 --> 02:31:02,954 Believe us, history will not forgive you. 1842 02:31:03,120 --> 02:31:07,398 It is a revolution of suicides in the name of the Civic Forum. 1843 02:31:08,080 --> 02:31:12,199 They should show you on TV or you should introduce yourselves, 1844 02:31:12,360 --> 02:31:16,149 but we will not forget, you can bet on that... 1845 02:31:16,320 --> 02:31:18,357 It's a reaction to what you shot there. 1846 02:31:19,000 --> 02:31:23,995 They did not see what I filmed, only that the Headmaster died. 1847 02:31:24,160 --> 02:31:27,039 And those communists were convinced that 1848 02:31:27,200 --> 02:31:32,354 we drove that noble communist to his death. 1849 02:31:33,040 --> 02:31:36,032 You drove him to death... 1850 02:31:37,080 --> 02:31:42,951 A bloodthirsty TV director went to the High School. Myself. 1851 02:31:43,440 --> 02:31:50,233 Me, Krejfzik, and drove a noble communist to death. 1852 02:31:50,400 --> 02:31:54,439 I saw the material, you were only searching for the truth... 1853 02:31:55,120 --> 02:31:58,351 What else, those students wrote me a letter and 1854 02:31:59,040 --> 02:32:05,355 pleaded for us to intervene to help, begging for help. 1855 02:32:06,360 --> 02:32:11,434 Things are moving slowly, many people still don't believe that 1856 02:32:12,080 --> 02:32:16,438 their era has definitely gone, that they no longer have power 1857 02:32:17,120 --> 02:32:23,196 over the fate of little people. All in all, nothing has changed. 1858 02:32:23,360 --> 02:32:29,151 Who's in the CF'. still has the last word, please, help us. 1859 02:32:29,320 --> 02:32:34,315 So, off I went when they pleaded. Yes, to help them. 1860 02:32:34,960 --> 02:32:39,272 If you please, here it is, Mr.Vachek, it needed 1861 02:32:39,440 --> 02:32:44,150 to sit down for half a day and conclude - what to use. 1862 02:32:44,320 --> 02:32:49,076 And not use kid-gloves 1863 02:32:49,240 --> 02:32:51,959 forgetting the iron-glove. 1864 02:32:52,120 --> 02:32:55,238 And what did you, in fact, perpetrate there? 1865 02:32:55,400 --> 02:32:58,392 Well, I filmed it as it was. I did not commit anything. 1866 02:32:59,040 --> 02:33:03,113 You shot what the Headmaster... tell us what you really filmed. 1867 02:33:03,280 --> 02:33:07,274 No, this method I do not accept. Please, I just do not accept it. 1868 02:33:07,440 --> 02:33:14,392 I tremble for every frame which goes to waste. 1869 02:33:18,040 --> 02:33:23,274 At the time the Headmaster informed on the students. 1870 02:33:26,240 --> 02:33:29,278 You are used to - your method is to work with people 1871 02:33:29,440 --> 02:33:33,320 who don't have an inkling what they are saying and improvise. 1872 02:33:33,960 --> 02:33:38,272 If the two of us agree, then we will express the meaning, 1873 02:33:38,440 --> 02:33:41,080 we will express it succinctly. 1874 02:33:41,240 --> 02:33:45,393 I'm used to talking concisely, precisely and clearly. 1875 02:33:46,080 --> 02:33:50,278 And not bullshit around the subject, then edit 1876 02:33:50,440 --> 02:33:54,274 and nonsense comes out of it. Forgive me. 1877 02:33:57,440 --> 02:34:03,231 It's haywire in my head. You managed it. Haywire. 1878 02:34:03,400 --> 02:34:07,394 Or at least with slogans to describe the affair. 1879 02:34:08,040 --> 02:34:13,194 With slogans, that's an idea, that's brilliant. 1880 02:34:13,360 --> 02:34:17,399 We will express it with slogans. What slogans? 1881 02:34:18,360 --> 02:34:21,193 Well, try it... 1882 02:34:23,200 --> 02:34:26,192 Mnvachek, you will drive me to despair. 1883 02:34:27,080 --> 02:34:33,110 It's necessary you agree with my doctors, so, I die quickly. 1884 02:34:33,280 --> 02:34:36,398 And then this will be of enormous immediate value and 1885 02:34:37,040 --> 02:34:44,310 you will say: that madman at last let his noble soul pass on. 1886 02:34:45,440 --> 02:34:51,994 Well, ifs beyond me why you do not shoot films... 1887 02:34:52,160 --> 02:34:56,438 Some man at the TV station asked me that when they made me wait. 1888 02:34:57,000 --> 02:35:02,120 Walking up those stairs is demeaning. 1889 02:35:02,280 --> 02:35:06,035 Those stairs devised for external colleagues 1890 02:35:06,200 --> 02:35:11,070 to visit the Big Chief, so, they don't forget their place and 1891 02:35:11,240 --> 02:35:16,394 that every stair is a step to hopelessness. 1892 02:35:17,040 --> 02:35:22,035 To nowhere, for nothing, futile. So, I go in. And he said to me: 1893 02:35:22,200 --> 02:35:25,955 well, don't be surprised but they're afraid of you. 1894 02:35:26,120 --> 02:35:28,236 And I understand them, yes I do. 1895 02:35:28,400 --> 02:35:33,156 Bon appetite, comrades, 1896 02:35:33,320 --> 02:35:37,154 don't know about the bad ones, they were perhaps atonal. 1897 02:35:37,960 --> 02:35:41,271 -What's up, neighbour... Castle OkoF. 1898 02:35:41,440 --> 02:35:45,434 ...is the pork tasty? 1899 02:35:46,440 --> 02:35:52,311 Is the pork tasty...? 1900 02:35:53,000 --> 02:35:56,072 Suddenly switches to gis dur... 1901 02:35:59,080 --> 02:36:02,436 Comrade Matey... 1902 02:36:04,320 --> 02:36:06,197 Red-capped Stalk. 1903 02:36:06,360 --> 02:36:09,113 It's a forlorn battle with the material but music it is - 1904 02:36:09,280 --> 02:36:15,993 No pork, I had goose 1905 02:36:17,160 --> 02:36:23,111 with ten crowns added on, 1906 02:36:24,080 --> 02:36:28,358 albeit it's in F dur and he puts it down 1907 02:36:29,040 --> 02:36:34,319 in complex fashion as Eis dur, that's Janééek... in fact... 1908 02:36:36,200 --> 02:36:39,192 And he repeats it. 1909 02:36:44,400 --> 02:36:48,280 Even the repetition is Janééek like... 1910 02:36:49,040 --> 02:36:55,275 I'd still like to get to that speech by Gottwald. 1911 02:36:56,120 --> 02:36:58,396 Comrade Pimper is there. 1912 02:36:59,200 --> 02:37:03,433 The comrades really have gorgeous names - comrade Matey, 1913 02:37:04,080 --> 02:37:09,109 Pimper, Swell, comrade Diligent. 1914 02:37:11,440 --> 02:37:13,431 Do you realise who Lukeé is? 1915 02:37:14,080 --> 02:37:16,356 Is he a lunatic or is he a great poet? 1916 02:37:17,080 --> 02:37:18,991 Castle Klima. 1917 02:37:19,160 --> 02:37:24,189 I think, above all, that he is an outsider who 1918 02:37:24,360 --> 02:37:27,239 even in his outsiderism is a failure. 1919 02:37:27,400 --> 02:37:32,429 Every one of his new works is a failure of an outsider. 1920 02:37:33,080 --> 02:37:36,960 Because he would wish to be an outsider at all times, 1921 02:37:37,120 --> 02:37:42,320 never wanted to be an artist, 1922 02:37:43,000 --> 02:37:45,958 did not want to be a scientist, did not want to be anything but 1923 02:37:46,120 --> 02:37:53,311 feels the need, so, he becomes the artist and the scientist. 1924 02:37:53,960 --> 02:37:56,270 Do you think he is the Stalinist of the opera? 1925 02:37:56,440 --> 02:38:01,435 No way. These things go completely by him. 1926 02:38:03,320 --> 02:38:08,190 I take him as a mystificator. As far as the music is concerned. 1927 02:38:08,360 --> 02:38:13,309 The impulse came from his literary activities and so forth. 1928 02:38:14,000 --> 02:38:16,037 Which in a way are mystifying. 1929 02:38:16,200 --> 02:38:19,272 And suddenly it has been shown that it isn't mystifying at all 1930 02:38:19,440 --> 02:38:27,279 because, as I see it now, and as MLKlusék puts it, 1931 02:38:29,320 --> 02:38:32,312 he struggles with his material in vain. 1932 02:38:32,960 --> 02:38:36,237 And really as an artist, scientist and thinker 1933 02:38:36,400 --> 02:38:39,153 he fails above all. 1934 02:38:41,080 --> 02:38:47,156 So, he didn't succeed with his mystification 1935 02:38:47,320 --> 02:38:50,039 nor trying to avoid it. 1936 02:38:50,200 --> 02:38:53,955 Yep, but linearally ifs also a note-stave. 1937 02:38:54,120 --> 02:38:59,069 Here we could all disperse in various ways... 1938 02:39:01,160 --> 02:39:03,436 Careful, Karel don't step on them... 1939 02:39:04,080 --> 02:39:07,232 ...because firstly we'll film with MrHélek, the composer. 1940 02:39:07,400 --> 02:39:10,392 For he will create a composition based on the mushroom he found. 1941 02:39:11,080 --> 02:39:14,072 In order that Toméé can still learn to play the composition. 1942 02:39:14,440 --> 02:39:18,070 So, where is the Bearded Milk-cap? 1943 02:39:18,240 --> 02:39:22,438 I have found a kind which I have made a composition on already... 1944 02:39:23,120 --> 02:39:25,236 Fly Agaric. Haéek. 1945 02:39:25,400 --> 02:39:28,438 Sometimes I form 2 compositions according to one kind. 1946 02:39:29,000 --> 02:39:31,310 Thereby, sit down with the mushroom and compose. 1947 02:39:32,000 --> 02:39:35,311 I will try. Right in front of you. 1948 02:39:37,080 --> 02:39:39,959 I don't understand anything anymore. 1949 02:39:40,120 --> 02:39:46,389 I believe that behind every mushroom is a hidden idea 1950 02:39:47,040 --> 02:39:51,273 which is implanted into every type, and 1951 02:39:51,440 --> 02:39:56,116 I do it by using all means at my disposal that 1952 02:39:56,280 --> 02:39:59,936 I plead for Him to pass on to me and try to learn the idea 1953 02:39:59,960 --> 02:40:02,190 I plead for Him to pass on to me and try to learn the idea 1954 02:40:02,360 --> 02:40:09,437 behind each mushroom and transform it into music. 1955 02:40:10,080 --> 02:40:15,075 When I am under the impression that I should create a film, 1956 02:40:15,240 --> 02:40:17,993 I try to listen to myself as I'm aware 1957 02:40:18,160 --> 02:40:19,355 that I can't get there just with my mind. 1958 02:40:20,040 --> 02:40:23,237 That it is inside. A human being listens to 1959 02:40:23,400 --> 02:40:27,155 the heart of being. Do you also have it? 1960 02:40:27,320 --> 02:40:32,235 Yes, I do. It's unusual for me as ifs completely original 1961 02:40:32,400 --> 02:40:38,237 because, naturally, music should not repeat itself, 1962 02:40:38,400 --> 02:40:41,950 in another words when people are born they're completely original 1963 02:40:42,120 --> 02:40:45,192 although they speak like their ancestors but they have 1964 02:40:45,360 --> 02:40:47,954 a totally different mission. 1965 02:40:48,120 --> 02:40:50,111 With mushrooms I think it's also like that. 1966 02:40:50,280 --> 02:40:52,999 -That they have a mission. -Yes, a kind of mission. 1967 02:40:53,160 --> 02:40:58,394 In practice then you sit down to it, well let's do that. 1968 02:40:59,040 --> 02:41:04,069 You mentioned you put your head to the mushroom and hear music. 1969 02:41:04,240 --> 02:41:06,231 -Is that so'? -Correct, 1970 02:41:06,400 --> 02:41:14,400 but I have to concentrate a little while to hear it. 1971 02:41:57,040 --> 02:42:02,399 Those are pine roots which are filled 1972 02:42:03,080 --> 02:42:07,313 by symbiotic mushrooms called mycorisms which we collect 1973 02:42:08,000 --> 02:42:10,958 and it grows above ground and what's below is unseen. 1974 02:42:11,120 --> 02:42:12,315 And that mushroom has symbiosis... 1975 02:42:13,000 --> 02:42:16,197 varnished Con k. Toénik Castle. 1976 02:42:16,360 --> 02:42:20,069 ...with commonly so-called fertile undergrowth. 1977 02:42:20,240 --> 02:42:23,312 That means mushrooms are everywhere under ground. 1978 02:42:24,000 --> 02:42:27,231 Trees and their roots all over the forest are linked 1979 02:42:27,400 --> 02:42:30,279 by fertile undergrowth of these mushrooms, 1980 02:42:30,440 --> 02:42:36,197 so trees are able to pass on nutrients, water and, 1981 02:42:36,360 --> 02:42:38,033 in effect, communicate. 1982 02:42:38,200 --> 02:42:41,192 The whole forest is a continuum linked by this fertile ground. 1983 02:42:41,360 --> 02:42:44,159 Zebrék castle. Horse Mushroom. 1984 02:42:44,320 --> 02:42:49,110 Our world seems to be linked with mushrooms. 1985 02:42:49,280 --> 02:42:54,036 Well, I can imagine that trees grow with roots upside down. 1986 02:42:54,200 --> 02:42:57,238 But I have to interpret the scientific results 1987 02:42:57,400 --> 02:43:00,040 in order not to falsify my findings. 1988 02:43:00,200 --> 02:43:05,354 You did say that when a seed drops the tree 1989 02:43:06,040 --> 02:43:10,113 then, somehow, connects it to that system the mushrooms have. 1990 02:43:10,280 --> 02:43:15,992 Well, the fertile undergrowth which we don't see 1991 02:43:16,160 --> 02:43:20,279 until we dig it up, creates various structures on the roots 1992 02:43:20,440 --> 02:43:25,389 which form the mushrooms as well as micro-organisms. 1993 02:43:29,400 --> 02:43:33,997 When the seed falls on to the ground and starts to germinate 1994 02:43:34,160 --> 02:43:39,234 it links up to the existing net. 1995 02:43:39,400 --> 02:43:44,236 Y'see a picture of mycorismic symbiosis of this relationship 1996 02:43:44,400 --> 02:43:49,952 whereby that imposing tree can be tied to the little tree 1997 02:43:50,120 --> 02:43:53,033 and is really feeding him. 1998 02:43:56,240 --> 02:43:59,232 I'm from the Faculty of Natural Sciences and 1999 02:43:59,400 --> 02:44:02,358 I am part of the project 2000 02:44:03,040 --> 02:44:08,160 having been able to co-operate with a U.S.University, and NASA, 2001 02:44:08,360 --> 02:44:15,278 and the aim of the project is to find out 2002 02:44:15,440 --> 02:44:19,149 whether it would be possible to use satellite photos 2003 02:44:19,320 --> 02:44:25,111 to exactly determine the condition of the forest... 2004 02:44:27,280 --> 02:44:30,193 It's stuck there now. 2005 02:44:31,240 --> 02:44:34,198 Somebody will have to climb up. 2006 02:44:34,320 --> 02:44:36,311 King Bolete. 2007 02:44:37,000 --> 02:44:43,155 Director, prepare to save our pliers... 2008 02:44:43,960 --> 02:44:47,430 We would have to cut the tree down... 2009 02:44:48,120 --> 02:44:50,430 and we'd have science causing all sorts of damage. 2010 02:44:51,120 --> 02:44:53,316 To save going into the terrain 2011 02:44:53,960 --> 02:44:59,990 to detect the actual state of the forest. 2012 02:45:00,160 --> 02:45:04,950 Best really to pull the pliers along the trunk... 2013 02:45:05,120 --> 02:45:08,033 The volume of information is horrifying and scientists 2014 02:45:08,200 --> 02:45:13,070 ask philosophers to condense. But I have the impression that 2015 02:45:13,240 --> 02:45:18,360 philosophy has blown this chance by now. 2016 02:45:19,000 --> 02:45:23,392 It's that cosmos, NASA, in a well in Vysoéina... 2017 02:45:24,040 --> 02:45:28,113 -Your little picture... -It's at your disposal. 2018 02:45:36,040 --> 02:45:39,351 The picture will just dissolve that teeny bit 2019 02:45:40,000 --> 02:45:45,200 like our M.P. Dostél dissolved before we put him into the bulb. 2020 02:45:47,320 --> 02:45:54,317 It is urgent today to begin with Natural Sciences and Mathematics. 2021 02:45:55,000 --> 02:45:59,949 That's the basis of knowledge at the end of the twentieth century. 2022 02:46:00,120 --> 02:46:04,034 And ifs splendid when a mathematician, 2023 02:46:04,200 --> 02:46:07,352 physicist, chemist or simply a natural scientist, 2024 02:46:08,040 --> 02:46:13,433 a biologist has greater and greater desire during his life 2025 02:46:14,080 --> 02:46:18,199 -to engage in wider problems... -T;'/|"'ov Castle. 2026 02:46:18,360 --> 02:46:21,955 ...which do not involve only his own discipline. 2027 02:46:22,160 --> 02:46:24,231 You are the President of the Academy of Sciences. 2028 02:46:24,400 --> 02:46:28,439 Rudolf Zahradnik. -Fly Agaric. 2029 02:46:29,400 --> 02:46:34,031 As long as you do not call me prima ballerina or Mr. President 2030 02:46:34,200 --> 02:46:36,111 then everything will be fine. 2031 02:46:36,280 --> 02:46:40,069 So don't get confused - there is also Bishop Zahradnik here. 2032 02:46:40,240 --> 02:46:43,119 In Finland they did something smart. 2033 02:46:43,280 --> 02:46:48,400 At a time when their economy was in a state of torpor 2034 02:46:49,080 --> 02:46:52,994 they didn't go and say: we'll cut the arts, 2035 02:46:53,040 --> 02:46:57,318 we'll cut the sciences, quite the reverse they funded science, 2036 02:46:57,960 --> 02:47:04,991 gave it a massive boost and 3 years having gone by Finland 2037 02:47:05,160 --> 02:47:10,394 has one of the biggest GNP's in the whole of Scandinavia. 2038 02:47:11,040 --> 02:47:19,040 Which is a great success which seemed unimaginable. 2039 02:47:20,160 --> 02:47:26,429 Unfortunately, we don't have the guts at a time of lame successes, 2040 02:47:27,120 --> 02:47:32,399 or even obvious economic failures, 2041 02:47:33,040 --> 02:47:38,114 to make at least a little impression on the world 2042 02:47:38,280 --> 02:47:43,275 through hi-tech manufacturing which corresponds to the end 2043 02:47:43,440 --> 02:47:47,195 of the 20th century and does not destroy the environment. 2044 02:47:47,280 --> 02:47:53,231 For that you need a great mass of people whose brains are tops 2045 02:47:53,400 --> 02:47:57,030 and their education wide-ranging and thorough. 2046 02:47:57,240 --> 02:48:03,156 To this end it's necessary to challenge the Czech population. 2047 02:48:03,320 --> 02:48:09,191 I regret that the situation has arisen 2048 02:48:09,360 --> 02:48:14,116 when a respected politician cannot dare to say openly 2049 02:48:14,280 --> 02:48:19,150 on TV, in the newspapers or on the radio: 2050 02:48:19,320 --> 02:48:24,440 dear citizens, do not be angry at me but one must not lie. 2051 02:48:25,120 --> 02:48:29,398 One must not steal. In the modern world it's called tunnelling. 2052 02:48:30,040 --> 02:48:34,273 Frauds are out of the question and I'm telling you - 2053 02:48:34,440 --> 02:48:38,399 those who engage in this will be caught by the Police, 2054 02:48:39,080 --> 02:48:43,313 investigated, given over to the courts and condemned. 2055 02:48:44,200 --> 02:48:49,274 But the notion that it'd be on to begin by studying philosophy 2056 02:48:49,440 --> 02:48:54,116 and here and then catch up on knowledge... 2057 02:48:54,320 --> 02:48:57,233 The method of collecting branches varies. It is possible 2058 02:48:57,400 --> 02:49:02,395 to use a small calibre gun or these kind of pliers. 2059 02:49:03,040 --> 02:49:05,429 Plant physiologist Doctor Albrechtové 2060 02:49:06,080 --> 02:49:08,356 and microbiologist Doctor Vosétka. 2061 02:49:09,040 --> 02:49:12,271 ...and I pull now and the branch falls down. 2062 02:49:12,440 --> 02:49:18,356 We have got hold of one branch from the top of the tree 2063 02:49:19,040 --> 02:49:21,350 and we can observe how the buds look. 2064 02:49:21,400 --> 02:49:24,392 We see how the buds look cut open. 2065 02:49:25,080 --> 02:49:27,356 We have out them with a razor. 2066 02:49:28,160 --> 02:49:33,360 Well, it's a similar story these days with scientists and artists. 2067 02:49:34,000 --> 02:49:37,994 The time when an artist had to have a wide hat, 2068 02:49:38,160 --> 02:49:42,438 a cape and a shawl around his neck as well as the time 2069 02:49:43,080 --> 02:49:47,438 when scientists were forgetting umbrellas on trams has, 2070 02:49:48,080 --> 02:49:53,359 in my view, gone. 2071 02:49:54,000 --> 02:49:57,436 Here the left bud you see is beautifully green 2072 02:49:58,080 --> 02:49:59,936 whereas this one is brown. And this very much shows us 2073 02:49:59,960 --> 02:50:01,155 whereas this one is brown. And this very much shows us 2074 02:50:01,320 --> 02:50:07,077 whether the netting in the buds is healthy or dying off. 2075 02:50:07,240 --> 02:50:14,237 The ratio between the healthy ones and the aborted ones 2076 02:50:14,400 --> 02:50:19,349 tells us about the vitality of the trees. 2077 02:50:20,000 --> 02:50:28,000 A colour on a NASA print can tell us the health of the buds. 2078 02:50:28,440 --> 02:50:31,034 Apart from other things. 2079 02:50:31,440 --> 02:50:34,990 -So, ifs a finished composition. -Yes, 2080 02:50:35,160 --> 02:50:41,031 ifs a finished piece for violin solo. 2081 02:50:41,200 --> 02:50:47,116 It is created according to the Pink-fringed Milky. 2082 02:50:47,160 --> 02:50:53,998 It's a twin of another Milk-cap which grows under birches... 2083 02:50:54,160 --> 02:50:58,313 Véolav Hélek has composed a piece 2084 02:50:58,960 --> 02:51:05,229 and Toméé Vejvoda, a violinist, will now play it. 2085 02:51:05,400 --> 02:51:10,315 Yes. Well, it's a one line for the violin solo. 2086 02:51:10,960 --> 02:51:14,954 It is a short composition based on the Woolly Milk-cap. 2087 02:51:21,120 --> 02:51:25,318 I am pretty uneasy when I know 2088 02:51:26,000 --> 02:51:30,995 that inside the camera is an Eastman 35 colour film 2089 02:51:31,160 --> 02:51:36,314 and the money it costs and eventually it will be cutout, 2090 02:51:36,960 --> 02:51:39,349 thrown away and money down the drain. 2091 02:51:40,000 --> 02:51:46,349 I saw when Forman was here with that Amadeus 2092 02:51:47,040 --> 02:51:54,276 he managed to get through 5000 metres daily. That's incredible. 2093 02:51:54,440 --> 02:52:00,152 I went to have a look from the start at 8 o'clock 2094 02:52:00,320 --> 02:52:04,075 and stayed for the whole shift until the end. 2095 02:52:04,240 --> 02:52:09,235 Then I saw it in projection. My friends, it was brilliant. 2096 02:52:09,400 --> 02:52:13,997 If I did something like that I'd be in the nick already, 2097 02:52:14,160 --> 02:52:18,950 and incredibly the actors worked like the clappers. 2098 02:52:19,120 --> 02:52:23,398 He didn't take time over a detail, half a detail... just ran it. 2099 02:52:24,080 --> 02:52:29,154 Whole, half a whole, detail, big detail and then the reverse. 2100 02:52:29,320 --> 02:52:35,191 Out of 8000 Romanies who lived in Czech lands before the war 2101 02:52:35,360 --> 02:52:39,354 less than a tenth returned. 2102 02:52:40,040 --> 02:52:45,433 Half of those people imprisoned in Lety and Hodoninek 2103 02:52:46,120 --> 02:52:49,033 were transported to concentration camps. 2104 02:52:49,200 --> 02:52:52,318 A part in this played Protectorate offices, 2105 02:52:52,960 --> 02:52:56,396 uniformed and plain-clothes police, 2106 02:52:57,080 --> 02:53:01,074 not Czech but Protectorate Police, criminal institutions 2107 02:53:01,240 --> 02:53:06,030 in which mainly ethnic Czechs worked, but also Germans. 2108 02:53:06,200 --> 02:53:11,115 They were criminal orgs. and, as such, declared by the Beneé govt. 2109 02:53:11,280 --> 02:53:14,398 And we have nothing to solve or to apologise for. 2110 02:53:15,080 --> 02:53:18,152 Only that after the war we did not punish those people properly. 2111 02:53:18,320 --> 02:53:22,234 -And we didn't punish them. -Well, we should not expel them. 2112 02:53:22,400 --> 02:53:26,189 -He's talking about institutions. -I am talking about those Czechs 2113 02:53:26,360 --> 02:53:31,355 who acted against the Romanies those should have been punished. 2114 02:53:33,200 --> 02:53:40,197 I'd like to bring in Ivan. About something completely different. 2115 02:53:40,360 --> 02:53:47,391 He told me a story about how in the 50's Romanies were moved 2116 02:53:48,080 --> 02:53:54,429 in locked carriages from Slovakia like merchandise. 2117 02:53:55,080 --> 02:54:02,077 It wasn't from Slovakia but from the Hungarian-Romanian border 2118 02:54:02,240 --> 02:54:08,430 and, specifically, concerned building workers. 2119 02:54:09,080 --> 02:54:14,234 After nationalisation my father had to go and work 2120 02:54:14,400 --> 02:54:20,271 in a different county from where he used to have his shop, 2121 02:54:20,440 --> 02:54:24,229 he worked as a clerical worker on the construction of Fléje. 2122 02:54:24,400 --> 02:54:31,033 He was a warehouseman who had to take in all kinds of goods. 2123 02:54:31,200 --> 02:54:38,038 One day he received notification to pick up workers 2124 02:54:38,200 --> 02:54:43,070 at the railway station and asked how many. They answered: 2125 02:54:43,240 --> 02:54:50,033 nobody knows as they are sealed inside the carriages and 2126 02:54:51,240 --> 02:54:55,359 their number will be ascertained from the delivery note. 2127 02:54:56,000 --> 02:55:01,074 So, that was the way. They were found accommodation 2128 02:55:01,240 --> 02:55:08,271 in Fléje village where the Germans had been deported from. 2129 02:55:08,440 --> 02:55:13,355 The dam had just begun to be built. 2130 02:55:14,040 --> 02:55:21,993 Of course, the workers who came went in all directions 2131 02:55:22,160 --> 02:55:28,156 having got hold of some cattle and wagons and left. 2132 02:55:28,320 --> 02:55:35,238 Mostly probably to Germany. But I am just giving an example 2133 02:55:35,400 --> 02:55:39,314 how the Romany ethnic minority was treated after the war. 2134 02:55:40,000 --> 02:55:44,073 And not only after the war. I also have information that 2135 02:55:44,240 --> 02:55:47,039 during the normal communist times in the Czech lands 2136 02:55:47,200 --> 02:55:51,080 when they were at a loss near Varnsdorf, 2137 02:55:51,240 --> 02:55:54,995 the local Council Chairman got hold of cattle-trucks 2138 02:55:55,160 --> 02:56:00,997 and sent local Romanies to Slovakia as if back home. 2139 02:56:01,160 --> 02:56:04,312 Sorry to butt in. If you see it in this context then 2140 02:56:04,960 --> 02:56:08,078 you still think that it is completely a marginal problem... 2141 02:56:08,240 --> 02:56:10,436 You don't listen what others are saying. 2142 02:56:11,120 --> 02:56:13,316 Nobody said that this is secondary. 2143 02:56:14,000 --> 02:56:17,391 But they are no more important than the things you mention. 2144 02:56:18,080 --> 02:56:20,071 But the question is what is really important. 2145 02:56:20,240 --> 02:56:24,199 You cannot underestimate anything that was part 2146 02:56:24,360 --> 02:56:28,433 of the existence of the society at that time. 2147 02:56:29,120 --> 02:56:32,192 We are the carriers of the past as well as the future. 2148 02:56:32,360 --> 02:56:38,072 What Dejmal is saying, what Uhl is saying, what you are saying, 2149 02:56:38,240 --> 02:56:45,158 what Polék is saying, what Jana says, is of one context. 2150 02:56:45,320 --> 02:56:49,200 Although the justice system is up the spout 2151 02:56:49,360 --> 02:56:53,194 I don't want to suggest it is unimportant. 2152 02:56:53,360 --> 02:56:56,239 It is of the same importance as to what you are saying 2153 02:56:56,400 --> 02:56:59,233 or that Polék looks at it from his anarchistic angle. 2154 02:56:59,400 --> 02:57:02,358 It was claimed here that it is being artificially politicised. 2155 02:57:03,000 --> 02:57:06,072 It was being politicised in Parliament, wasn't it? 2156 02:57:06,240 --> 02:57:11,110 The wall in Usti is being politicised, damn it! 2157 02:57:11,280 --> 02:57:14,955 The thing is whether people accept the politicisation, 2158 02:57:15,120 --> 02:57:17,316 play the political game with them 2159 02:57:17,960 --> 02:57:22,989 or we send them up the creek and sort it as we think fit. 2160 02:57:23,160 --> 02:57:27,358 The President gives clemency and it becomes fucking politicised. 2161 02:57:28,000 --> 02:57:33,200 He will never swallow the fact that 2162 02:57:33,360 --> 02:57:38,389 the State isn't the one that governs but the one that serves. 2163 02:57:39,040 --> 02:57:44,399 The citizen is the client. 2164 02:57:45,040 --> 02:57:48,317 One dead State Minister but no cop goes to jail... 2165 02:57:48,960 --> 02:57:54,034 I say we always magnify those shits, they are damn yellow. 2166 02:57:54,200 --> 02:57:57,158 I worked at the Interior for over a year. 2167 02:57:57,320 --> 02:57:59,994 So, I know what cowards they are and when you bare your teeth 2168 02:58:00,160 --> 02:58:01,992 they shit in their pants. 2169 02:58:02,160 --> 02:58:06,154 Big whole, smaller whole, half a whole, detail, half a detail... 2170 02:58:06,320 --> 02:58:11,394 And those actors ticked over like a Swiss watch. 2171 02:58:12,080 --> 02:58:16,039 But there are dissidents who drank out of the trough 2172 02:58:16,200 --> 02:58:18,191 because they started to enjoy power. 2173 02:58:19,280 --> 02:58:27,119 Even if they gave me three times the material I couldn't use it. 2174 02:58:30,360 --> 02:58:33,034 Dear Ruml just began to play the political game 2175 02:58:33,200 --> 02:58:36,397 instead of being an official. And let Secret Police agents 2176 02:58:37,080 --> 02:58:39,276 work for the Interior instead of sticking to his task. 2177 02:58:39,440 --> 02:58:43,195 Even if they shot me up that's the risk, fuck, well isn't it? 2178 02:58:44,040 --> 02:58:48,034 It is easy to join something 2179 02:58:48,200 --> 02:58:51,238 but responsibility is that I may get a kicking as a result. 2180 02:58:51,400 --> 02:58:55,030 I may have qualms about Havel, but he is the President who is 2181 02:58:55,200 --> 02:59:00,070 authorised to pardon, we can have varied views on this but 2182 02:59:00,240 --> 02:59:05,360 he takes it by the horn, makes a decision and risks being accused. 2183 02:59:06,040 --> 02:59:07,269 It's like he asks for another small attentat. 2184 02:59:07,320 --> 02:59:13,430 I'll put on a shirt which is hanging up there. 2185 02:59:19,200 --> 02:59:22,989 You know what's what, I'm rather clumsy. 2186 02:59:23,160 --> 02:59:25,356 Well, MrFoglar, let's dress! 2187 02:59:29,280 --> 02:59:34,309 Let's not get it creased. Put the other arm in. 2188 02:59:35,000 --> 02:59:40,393 I got the shirts made, so, I didn't have to button them. 2189 02:59:41,320 --> 02:59:43,311 Jan's Castle. 2190 02:59:52,240 --> 02:59:55,392 "Graduation in November" should have been the name of the film. 2191 02:59:56,080 --> 02:59:59,936 Students wrote me several letters. 2192 02:59:59,960 --> 03:00:00,119 Students wrote me several letters. 2193 03:00:00,280 --> 03:00:02,954 Help us, help us - please. 2194 03:00:03,120 --> 03:00:09,196 For me to visit Ceské Tfebové, the High School, students. 2195 03:00:09,240 --> 03:00:14,235 The scull is made of plaster and can be bought for 340 crowns. 2196 03:00:14,400 --> 03:00:18,075 The Stalinist Headmaster persecuted them there. 2197 03:00:18,240 --> 03:00:22,313 MrStanislav Penc. I wanted him to be here but he didn't come, 2198 03:00:22,960 --> 03:00:26,271 he doesn't wish being seen by the Police. 2199 03:00:26,440 --> 03:00:33,119 Andre j Stankovif: told us that they've beaten Mr. Penc up twice, 2200 03:00:33,280 --> 03:00:36,079 so they might do it a third time. 2201 03:00:39,400 --> 03:00:42,358 I think I understand that. 2202 03:00:43,000 --> 03:00:50,157 The explanation is that he is like a square peg 2203 03:00:51,280 --> 03:00:54,159 in a round hole as far as their idea of a solid citizen. 2204 03:00:54,320 --> 03:00:56,994 Simply in their eyes he is not a decent citizen. 2205 03:00:57,160 --> 03:01:00,437 If he was decent, firstly, he wouldn't be in a pub 2206 03:01:01,080 --> 03:01:06,029 with an Indian who looks like a Gypsy, wouldn't have long hair, 2207 03:01:06,200 --> 03:01:10,159 and, secondly, wouldn't walk down a street with some Romany. 2208 03:01:10,320 --> 03:01:13,438 Decent people just don't do this and, therefore, it's necessary 2209 03:01:14,120 --> 03:01:19,149 to find out his identity and if he objects and asks why, 2210 03:01:19,320 --> 03:01:21,436 then he'll get a walloping. 2211 03:01:22,120 --> 03:01:27,035 That's the norm and has nothing in common 2212 03:01:27,200 --> 03:01:29,396 with our lives in supposedly democratic times and 2213 03:01:30,040 --> 03:01:32,236 that prior there was some undemocratic regime here. 2214 03:01:32,400 --> 03:01:36,155 It's a Police stereotype which we haven't coped with. 2215 03:01:36,320 --> 03:01:43,078 In Germany they have managed to a large extent to overcome this 2216 03:01:43,240 --> 03:01:45,197 thanks to the post-war trauma. 2217 03:01:45,360 --> 03:01:48,990 To a lesser extent they have coped in Italy or Spain. 2218 03:01:49,120 --> 03:01:52,033 They gave him a hiding not because he is Stanislav Penc 2219 03:01:52,200 --> 03:01:57,991 but because he's like a hippy and further what makes it worse 2220 03:01:58,160 --> 03:02:02,119 that he behaves with confidence. Doesn't run away, doesn't hide, 2221 03:02:02,280 --> 03:02:05,989 and acts like a decent citizen. 2222 03:02:06,160 --> 03:02:09,232 Thus, he sorely irritates the beat Policeman and 2223 03:02:09,400 --> 03:02:13,189 gets a bigger hiding than the ordinary long-hair. 2224 03:02:13,360 --> 03:02:17,991 I also have experience of being an irritant for them. 2225 03:02:18,160 --> 03:02:22,154 He is known in the media, the Policemen know him, 2226 03:02:22,320 --> 03:02:27,076 is on the skins' blacklist like Petr Uhl used to be with others. 2227 03:02:27,240 --> 03:02:30,392 Therefore, I wouldn't lighten the fact 2228 03:02:31,040 --> 03:02:35,352 that Policemen don't know who they've beaten. 2229 03:02:37,120 --> 03:02:40,397 And they made the revolution. 2230 03:02:41,080 --> 03:02:45,278 I think what a beautiful film it could be. I understood that 2231 03:02:45,440 --> 03:02:51,436 it could be like the "Higher Principle" that I made earlier. 2232 03:02:52,080 --> 03:02:59,396 I thought I'll take a recorder and record what they're saying. 2233 03:03:00,080 --> 03:03:02,230 But that's nonsense - we'll take a camera. 2234 03:03:02,280 --> 03:03:05,989 I wanted the TV with us - 2235 03:03:06,160 --> 03:03:11,075 they said that Krejéik has gone nuts, bonkers. 2236 03:03:11,240 --> 03:03:14,278 Doesn't have even a script and already wants a camera. 2237 03:03:14,440 --> 03:03:18,195 I'd be quite interested who is unacceptable for the Police, 2238 03:03:18,360 --> 03:03:22,115 what an acceptable or an unacceptable person looks like, 2239 03:03:22,280 --> 03:03:24,078 and where can you find an acceptable 2240 03:03:24,240 --> 03:03:26,072 or an unacceptable person. 2241 03:03:26,240 --> 03:03:30,029 Because all this happened in various situations. 2242 03:03:30,200 --> 03:03:36,151 It is not about Standa nor anybody well known. 2243 03:03:36,320 --> 03:03:41,235 It's about the attitudes people from the State apparatus. 2244 03:03:44,080 --> 03:03:47,038 For whom is the Police here for? 2245 03:03:47,200 --> 03:03:50,272 In that lies the crux of the problem. 2246 03:03:50,360 --> 03:03:56,038 -I want to put the tie on now. -Hang on, I'll give you the tie 2247 03:03:57,160 --> 03:04:00,198 but you have to tie it yourself. 2248 03:04:02,000 --> 03:04:04,992 -Do you want a mirror? -No, I know by heart! 2249 03:04:05,160 --> 03:04:07,276 Well, I am curious to see. 2250 03:04:07,440 --> 03:04:11,229 I have done this all my life, one, two, three... 2251 03:04:11,400 --> 03:04:14,392 It was an interesting tale 2252 03:04:15,040 --> 03:04:20,160 how sixteen seventeen year olds made a velvet revolution. 2253 03:04:20,320 --> 03:04:25,998 But they were sincere. Truly. Those things appeared later. 2254 03:04:26,160 --> 03:04:28,037 So, I filmed it. 2255 03:04:28,200 --> 03:04:31,431 Then the TV producer, MrSmetana, a communist, came and said: 2256 03:04:32,120 --> 03:04:37,240 what are you doing here, you are putting them in the stocks. 2257 03:04:37,400 --> 03:04:42,998 I putting them in the stocks'? They managed to do it themselves. 2258 03:04:43,160 --> 03:04:48,280 I pondered that if I drove this person to death in half a day, 2259 03:04:48,440 --> 03:04:55,198 perhaps I could persecute a few more communists, 2260 03:04:55,360 --> 03:05:00,036 that would be a meritable act if it succeeded. 2261 03:05:02,080 --> 03:05:09,953 That I possess such a terrifying magical power. 2262 03:05:11,080 --> 03:05:17,395 But I realised that when I kissed and embraced 2263 03:05:18,160 --> 03:05:20,436 someone he died soon afterwards. 2264 03:05:21,120 --> 03:05:23,157 Imagine, he died. 2265 03:05:25,360 --> 03:05:30,355 Like the Director of the Film Studios, Guntler. 2266 03:05:31,320 --> 03:05:37,316 I embraced him and he left for Yugoslavia, a disaster followed, 2267 03:05:37,960 --> 03:05:44,957 I hadn't an inkling, suddenly at night someone is at the door, 2268 03:05:45,120 --> 03:05:49,079 and I go and open up and the Director is there and says: 2269 03:05:49,240 --> 03:05:53,313 "| am in a hurry, I have no time. 2270 03:05:53,960 --> 03:05:59,160 But you can rely on me, I'll put those things right." 2271 03:05:59,320 --> 03:06:06,078 Later I realised it happened at half past two in the morning 2272 03:06:06,240 --> 03:06:10,393 and the guy died at the same time. 2273 03:06:11,080 --> 03:06:14,311 The accident happened near Zagreb. 2274 03:06:14,960 --> 03:06:19,272 It was his ghost and bad conscience which made him say: 2275 03:06:19,440 --> 03:06:24,150 "I'll put it right, rely on me." Then hurried away. 2276 03:06:24,320 --> 03:06:26,391 In that mo' he was already dead. 2277 03:06:33,160 --> 03:06:39,111 We've gone completely astray. The tie is much too short. 2278 03:06:39,280 --> 03:06:43,239 We'll start again MrFoglar, can't be helped. 2279 03:06:45,240 --> 03:06:49,234 I would help you but I don't know how. Wait, now. 2280 03:06:50,120 --> 03:06:54,432 It's meant sincerely and grapho-manically. 2281 03:06:55,080 --> 03:06:57,230 M r. Borecky, have you found that... 2282 03:06:57,400 --> 03:07:02,236 It's meant sincerely and grapho-manically because 2283 03:07:02,400 --> 03:07:07,952 he somehow felt sub-consciously that he shouldn't be an artist. 2284 03:07:08,360 --> 03:07:14,231 That's why he turned to music in which his ability was poorest. 2285 03:07:15,320 --> 03:07:18,233 In order to have the most difficult hurdles. 2286 03:07:18,400 --> 03:07:22,997 Like Péguy said: human is the only living creature in Nature 2287 03:07:23,160 --> 03:07:24,434 who puts hurdles in front of his own making. 2288 03:07:25,120 --> 03:07:30,274 How many instruments were there, did he not enrich the orchestra? 2289 03:07:30,440 --> 03:07:38,440 With a full score of which only the torso of the opera "Weekend" 2290 03:07:39,280 --> 03:07:41,032 has survived. 2291 03:07:41,200 --> 03:07:45,080 It's a classical instrumentation, or did he add a few? 2292 03:07:49,280 --> 03:07:56,038 There is another Stalinist opera for individual instruments. 2293 03:08:00,960 --> 03:08:06,194 He wrote 36 operas, 13 symphonies and a requiem. 2294 03:08:07,040 --> 03:08:15,040 The strange thing is that Vonts are a form of totalitarianism. 2295 03:08:16,400 --> 03:08:19,153 I felt a certain apprehension with them... 2296 03:08:20,200 --> 03:08:24,273 -You know, those yellow pins. -It was a book... 2297 03:08:24,440 --> 03:08:32,440 They always ask for Maihak or Losna as their leader. 2298 03:08:36,040 --> 03:08:41,433 Meanwhile - it still needs fastening, please nurse - 2299 03:08:43,440 --> 03:08:50,949 to the contrary Quick Arrows do not form any organisation. 2300 03:08:56,360 --> 03:08:59,079 You've placed those fine mushrooms there. 2301 03:08:59,400 --> 03:09:03,439 I see it, here it is. That's a beauty. 2302 03:09:04,160 --> 03:09:06,276 Even the grass communicates with a tree. 2303 03:09:06,440 --> 03:09:10,399 We can prove that the tree-roots and the grass are linked. 2304 03:09:11,080 --> 03:09:15,039 That's something! 2305 03:09:18,200 --> 03:09:24,037 Foglar writes about the Vonts and the Quick Arrows. 2306 03:09:24,200 --> 03:09:29,036 When the Vonts pick Maénék they can opt for fascism or communism, 2307 03:09:29,200 --> 03:09:32,158 when they take Losna they can have democracy. 2308 03:09:32,360 --> 03:09:38,390 Quick Arrows never get any Vonts committed. 2309 03:09:39,080 --> 03:09:43,358 And the Vonts have yellow pins and Foglar foresaw exactly 2310 03:09:44,040 --> 03:09:48,034 that in a while the Jews will put on those yellow pins. 2311 03:09:48,200 --> 03:09:52,353 Or force them to wear yellow stars, you understand, 2312 03:09:53,000 --> 03:09:59,936 and the dispute Losna/Mainék is cleared up in Germanised Czecho. 2313 03:09:59,960 --> 03:09:59,994 And the dispute Losna/Mainék is cleared up in Germanised Czecho. 2314 03:10:03,040 --> 03:10:05,998 That is what no-one understands. 2315 03:10:16,040 --> 03:10:18,111 That's a hundred. 2316 03:10:21,080 --> 03:10:24,072 Karel, tape it... 2317 03:10:25,200 --> 03:10:32,391 My Czech is bad. That's a 100... It's a 5 O00! 2318 03:10:49,160 --> 03:10:51,310 Once more! 2319 03:11:08,120 --> 03:11:10,350 It's a pleasure. 2320 03:11:17,200 --> 03:11:21,398 It's written in everything, like that music, 2321 03:11:22,080 --> 03:11:25,436 same as the music is etched in that mushroom then 2322 03:11:26,120 --> 03:11:32,389 history is etched in Foglar and also in other stories, 2323 03:11:33,040 --> 03:11:35,998 and if I take your story, dear Bishop. 2324 03:11:36,160 --> 03:11:40,040 You are a Bishop and aren't. How come? 2325 03:11:40,200 --> 03:11:43,318 I am a bishop because I have taken Holy Orders and 2326 03:11:43,960 --> 03:11:47,078 nobody can take that away. It is like being christened. 2327 03:11:47,240 --> 03:11:50,153 Come here to the clearing, bishop, 2328 03:11:50,360 --> 03:11:54,194 how come they cannot take it away'? 2329 03:11:54,360 --> 03:11:57,273 It is like someone being christened then 2330 03:11:57,440 --> 03:12:00,000 there is nobody that can take away their Christianity. 2331 03:12:00,160 --> 03:12:02,310 He can only repudiate it and no longer live according to it. 2332 03:12:03,360 --> 03:12:10,039 Whereas any form of Holy Orders which are given 2333 03:12:10,200 --> 03:12:12,350 by an apostolic are irrevocable. 2334 03:12:13,040 --> 03:12:15,270 Bell-shaped Mottlegill. Buchlov Castle. 2335 03:12:15,440 --> 03:12:18,319 You were a Bishop in a secret church. 2336 03:12:19,000 --> 03:12:22,391 The secret church founded in the 50's, 2337 03:12:23,040 --> 03:12:31,040 we extended the link after the invasion of the Warsaw Pact 2338 03:12:31,240 --> 03:12:37,156 in 1968, and we needed to ensure the survival of the church. 2339 03:12:37,320 --> 03:12:40,995 Because at the time they thought up a secret campaign NORBERT 2340 03:12:41,160 --> 03:12:45,074 and for that reason it was vital to ensure the church's survival. 2341 03:12:47,160 --> 03:12:50,278 Our Mr.Foglar cannot manage, so, many things at once, wait. 2342 03:12:51,320 --> 03:12:55,154 A discussion and to button up the trousers 2343 03:12:56,000 --> 03:12:58,230 and braces on at the same time. 2344 03:13:00,040 --> 03:13:03,431 I am glad that it's this smooth... 2345 03:13:08,440 --> 03:13:11,159 Only the jacket... 2346 03:13:11,360 --> 03:13:14,159 If you could only tie up the laces of the right shoe. 2347 03:13:14,320 --> 03:13:16,436 Tighten it. 2348 03:13:19,000 --> 03:13:23,278 It's not laced up, sorry that I have to bother you with it. 2349 03:13:23,440 --> 03:13:26,432 Get away, we are the ones bothering. 2350 03:13:33,160 --> 03:13:36,278 -Is it hot or cold outside? -|t's warm. 2351 03:13:39,200 --> 03:13:41,271 Leave that unbuttoned. 2352 03:13:45,240 --> 03:13:52,033 -Secret campaign NORBERT. -But in 1968, or rather 1969, 2353 03:13:52,200 --> 03:13:55,397 the then Minister of the Interior perfected it 2354 03:13:56,040 --> 03:14:00,159 by wanting to exile dissidents, leaders of the Church to Siberia, 2355 03:14:00,320 --> 03:14:02,311 or to execute them without trial. 2356 03:14:02,960 --> 03:14:06,157 We needed to ensure that there were more priests 2357 03:14:06,320 --> 03:14:10,029 who took Holy Orders, that we had young members etc... 2358 03:14:10,200 --> 03:14:13,431 In opposing the NORBERT secret campaign 2359 03:14:14,080 --> 03:14:18,995 I was chosen as a Roman Catholic priest to be appointed as Bishop, 2360 03:14:19,160 --> 03:14:24,394 although it wasn't the custom for the Bishop to be married. 2361 03:14:25,080 --> 03:14:28,198 There were three of us but two relinquished their chance. 2362 03:14:28,360 --> 03:14:31,432 Well, they knew what the consequences would be. 2363 03:14:32,120 --> 03:14:39,151 That is why I am unacceptable for the post-revolution church. 2364 03:14:39,320 --> 03:14:42,438 Because as a married Bishop I am first in centuries. 2365 03:14:44,320 --> 03:14:47,995 Well, it happened like this, as the Secret Police 2366 03:14:48,160 --> 03:14:54,031 wouldn't search for the Bishop's relics at a married priests'. 2367 03:14:54,200 --> 03:14:57,989 So, are there agents of the Secret Police as Bishops today'? 2368 03:14:58,160 --> 03:15:01,039 Yes, there is somebody. They are there. 2369 03:15:02,040 --> 03:15:04,156 I am combing with a mommy. 2370 03:15:04,320 --> 03:15:07,199 It's a comb which belonged to my mother, 2371 03:15:07,360 --> 03:15:12,150 I always say that I will comb with a mommy. 2372 03:15:12,320 --> 03:15:16,154 Because it is a comb from my mother. 2373 03:15:19,240 --> 03:15:22,278 "Don't give Mr.Foglar medicines. He has overdosed in the past!" 2374 03:15:22,440 --> 03:15:25,432 Priest's place is not just at the altar. I am a Bishop 2375 03:15:26,120 --> 03:15:31,433 for gypsies, for the homeless and for drug addicts. 2376 03:15:38,080 --> 03:15:40,356 -Mr.Zahradnik... -That would be better... 2377 03:15:42,360 --> 03:15:44,237 Poster-gluers! 2378 03:15:48,160 --> 03:15:53,155 Advertisement is something that wants from us 2379 03:15:53,320 --> 03:15:59,430 a purchase of an object which we do not know. 2380 03:16:02,320 --> 03:16:06,314 I believe that the film we are making is not an ad.. 2381 03:16:10,400 --> 03:16:14,359 The watchdog of democracy. 2382 03:16:17,360 --> 03:16:22,036 That it has some sensible purpose, more than greed. 2383 03:16:22,200 --> 03:16:25,033 Some purpose. 2384 03:16:26,320 --> 03:16:34,320 And that's a pizza with wings, it's dry here... 2385 03:16:36,400 --> 03:16:40,155 Market economy is a very useful thing. 2386 03:16:40,320 --> 03:16:43,119 Although it seems incredible Antonio Dvofék 2387 03:16:43,280 --> 03:16:46,159 worked and lived in this house 2388 03:16:46,320 --> 03:16:50,075 and welcomed visitors such as Pyotr llich Tchaikovsky. 2389 03:16:50,240 --> 03:16:55,269 Dvofék was not an unknown entity. He was the Director 2390 03:16:55,440 --> 03:16:59,320 of the New York Conservatory and he was offered a tenure 2391 03:16:59,960 --> 03:17:02,031 but refused and returned. 2392 03:17:02,200 --> 03:17:05,397 Feasibly hevmade more money than, say, the Skoda factory in Pilsen 2393 03:17:06,080 --> 03:17:08,356 through various authors' payments. 2394 03:17:09,000 --> 03:17:11,196 Is it nature or what! 2395 03:17:11,360 --> 03:17:17,197 It's nature here, for sure, but nothing to get excited about. 2396 03:17:18,320 --> 03:17:25,192 But I don't mind as long as we have an aim. Here are seats... 2397 03:17:26,160 --> 03:17:29,994 It is beautiful here and horrible at the same time. 2398 03:17:30,320 --> 03:17:37,317 The TV has those pig-styes. It forces in them 15 minute shows, 2399 03:17:38,000 --> 03:17:40,355 30 minute ones, hourly ones and 2400 03:17:41,000 --> 03:17:44,231 now it makes shows which means that, 2401 03:17:44,400 --> 03:17:48,951 the viewer is like Pavlovs dog ready for the next instalment. 2402 03:17:49,120 --> 03:17:56,277 Everything has to be in parts, that is what appals me, culture. 2403 03:17:56,440 --> 03:18:01,276 It creates directly a new reality 2404 03:18:01,440 --> 03:18:04,398 which is more real than the actual reality. 2405 03:18:05,080 --> 03:18:07,356 Virtual reality. 2406 03:18:08,040 --> 03:18:10,395 I consider it to be a totally false existence. 2407 03:18:11,040 --> 03:18:13,031 -But I don't want to live in it. -Me neither. 2408 03:18:13,200 --> 03:18:18,400 But I notice that my daughter would wish to live in an ad., 2409 03:18:19,080 --> 03:18:23,313 she identifies herself with a certain ad.., 2410 03:18:23,960 --> 03:18:26,190 say, of a happy family on a beach. 2411 03:18:26,360 --> 03:18:30,194 Do you know that my son told me he will make a soup 2412 03:18:30,360 --> 03:18:34,991 and throw a sanitary towel in and it will soak up all the soup. 2413 03:18:35,160 --> 03:18:38,118 And that it would form an ad.. I shocked you. 2414 03:18:38,280 --> 03:18:40,430 Well, you sure got me. 2415 03:18:42,280 --> 03:18:45,079 Don't tell me such stories. 2416 03:18:49,440 --> 03:18:54,071 Vaéek in his euphoria wasn't thinking of fine calligraphy 2417 03:18:54,240 --> 03:18:58,120 and simply wrote it in a hurry, so, to read the notes 2418 03:18:58,280 --> 03:19:01,159 ain't that simple. I'll try... 2419 03:19:01,200 --> 03:19:05,956 Advertising means that what we don't know we buy. 2420 03:19:06,120 --> 03:19:09,954 When we purchase what we don't know... 2421 03:19:12,240 --> 03:19:18,350 It's like a pizza with wings. Pizza with wings. Edges are dry. 2422 03:19:19,040 --> 03:19:24,991 -We don't understand anything. -That is memory. 2423 03:19:28,000 --> 03:19:34,315 Memory does not show up. And it's from advertising. 2424 03:19:35,000 --> 03:19:38,356 On this upper step... 2425 03:19:47,280 --> 03:19:54,311 Jenik you are head over heels in love... 2426 03:20:03,000 --> 03:20:10,350 Good advice and money are two sides of life, 2427 03:20:11,080 --> 03:20:15,313 who takes them up wisely 2428 03:20:15,960 --> 03:20:20,238 goes through life gamely. 2429 03:20:20,400 --> 03:20:27,113 Who takes them up wisely 2430 03:20:27,280 --> 03:20:33,231 goes through life gamely. 2431 03:20:42,240 --> 03:20:46,074 Now he'll receive his call-up into the Prussian war. 2432 03:20:46,240 --> 03:20:52,316 There he defends the hillock by Hradec and falls... 2433 03:20:53,000 --> 03:20:56,277 -And when Mafenka... -Jenlk will be killed in action. 2434 03:20:56,440 --> 03:20:59,319 The opera has an addendum called A Requiem For The Nun. 2435 03:21:00,000 --> 03:21:06,349 The 99 year old Mother Superior, Marenka, is dying in a monastery 2436 03:21:07,000 --> 03:21:11,119 and Jenik appears to her in the background 2437 03:21:11,280 --> 03:21:14,159 and is tempting her to him... 2438 03:21:17,000 --> 03:21:21,392 It ends with a fire, the National Theatre is burning 2439 03:21:22,080 --> 03:21:26,074 and later it continues in a new building. 2440 03:21:26,240 --> 03:21:31,235 I feel such an urgent need for re-birth. 2441 03:21:31,400 --> 03:21:35,109 The end is only when one destroys everything. 2442 03:21:40,160 --> 03:21:43,198 Misha is hanging from the lime-tree and 2443 03:21:43,360 --> 03:21:46,318 flames destroy the whole stage. 2444 03:21:47,160 --> 03:21:50,994 The opera begins with desperate Tobiéé singing into the wings, 2445 03:21:51,040 --> 03:21:55,432 what disaster to have an idiot for a son and another a drunk. 2446 03:21:56,000 --> 03:22:01,200 Because Jenik started to drink when he learnt 2447 03:22:01,360 --> 03:22:07,117 Maienkds baby was dying. Baby was dying of shock 2448 03:22:07,280 --> 03:22:13,356 because Vaéek climbed through the chimney to scare the baby... 2449 03:22:14,000 --> 03:22:18,995 I have to congratulate the Party which gained the most votes. 2450 03:22:19,160 --> 03:22:21,436 It is sporting and fair, 2451 03:22:22,080 --> 03:22:26,039 I also have to say that although we got loads of votes 2452 03:22:26,200 --> 03:22:31,036 it is still not enough for something very considerable, 2453 03:22:31,200 --> 03:22:34,079 not enough for victory. 2454 03:22:34,240 --> 03:22:37,119 At the moment we will see what a re-count brings. 2455 03:22:37,280 --> 03:22:40,432 What are your views as to how the situation will develop? 2456 03:22:41,080 --> 03:22:44,072 First impressions which are of interest to me 2457 03:22:44,240 --> 03:22:47,153 are slight variations in the vote-count. 2458 03:22:47,320 --> 03:22:51,109 It can substantially shake up possibilities which exist. 2459 03:22:51,280 --> 03:22:54,113 I went into the election with the aim that 2460 03:22:54,280 --> 03:22:59,275 in order to stop a left-wing takeover 2461 03:22:59,440 --> 03:23:06,119 whereby non-left Parties would form their own coalition. 2462 03:23:07,000 --> 03:23:10,391 These possibilities on the basis of the latest results loom. 2463 03:23:11,080 --> 03:23:14,311 And the baby was, so, terrified it died of fright. 2464 03:23:15,000 --> 03:23:21,952 They recalled the case of Vaéek embroiled with the comedians. 2465 03:23:22,120 --> 03:23:25,272 They preventively bring a psychiatrist from Pilsen 2466 03:23:25,440 --> 03:23:30,992 and a horse ambulance comes for Vaéek. 2467 03:23:31,160 --> 03:23:35,313 Vaéek cottons on that they want to put him in a straight-jacket 2468 03:23:36,000 --> 03:23:39,152 and runs to the loft and sets it alight. 2469 03:23:39,200 --> 03:23:46,038 All larks and tribulations lead to nought... 2470 03:23:48,160 --> 03:23:56,160 Only love bringst joy, provides strength and guts. 2471 03:24:03,320 --> 03:24:08,076 To tell the truth. I don't know what being a moralist means, 2472 03:24:08,240 --> 03:24:15,397 you're saying I am for decent manners, that's true, that I am. 2473 03:24:16,080 --> 03:24:21,075 Here I am for the first time in my life, I've never been here. 2474 03:24:22,040 --> 03:24:24,190 When you favour decent behaviour 2475 03:24:24,360 --> 03:24:27,432 then one should train people to behave well. 2476 03:24:28,080 --> 03:24:32,074 Yes, and that's not simple, particularly today. 2477 03:24:33,240 --> 03:24:35,390 And those little beavers... 2478 03:24:36,360 --> 03:24:41,036 I started training when I was 13, when I thought that up. 2479 03:24:41,200 --> 03:24:44,272 It was a book called "Lads from the Beaver River". 2480 03:24:44,440 --> 03:24:50,436 It's coming out now in its 15th edition or something like that. 2481 03:24:53,840 --> 03:24:55,990 How did you come up with it? 2482 03:24:56,680 --> 03:25:01,629 It's imagination which makes me a so-called writer. 2483 03:25:02,840 --> 03:25:06,834 Other people have different talents 2484 03:25:07,000 --> 03:25:11,710 and I had some imagination. I excelled at this at school 2485 03:25:11,880 --> 03:25:14,918 when I wrote essays for several other lads 2486 03:25:15,560 --> 03:25:19,918 in different styles, so, it wouldn't be noticed and, 2487 03:25:20,560 --> 03:25:26,795 the lads were grateful that they didn't have to do any work. 2488 03:25:27,600 --> 03:25:30,718 The subjects I don't remember any more. 2489 03:25:32,560 --> 03:25:36,758 On the theme -"Every one of us is the architect of one's fate." 2490 03:25:36,920 --> 03:25:39,958 Nobody knew what they should write about. 2491 03:25:40,600 --> 03:25:45,800 I wrote essays for about five boys, homework, 2492 03:25:45,960 --> 03:25:50,955 and always that bit different, so, no-one knew that I wrote it. 2493 03:25:51,600 --> 03:25:56,629 What architects of fortune were the people in those essays? 2494 03:25:56,800 --> 03:26:01,829 It means that simply he always tried to be somebody, 2495 03:26:02,000 --> 03:26:07,678 to be of public service, to achieve something. 2496 03:26:07,840 --> 03:26:13,950 Thereby, he was the architect of his fate. A silly theme. 2497 03:26:14,640 --> 03:26:17,917 Now imagine I wrote for five boys at the same time and 2498 03:26:18,600 --> 03:26:23,629 always a little bit differently as not to be found out. 2499 03:26:25,640 --> 03:26:27,597 What kind of an author are you? 2500 03:26:27,760 --> 03:26:34,951 I am a writer for young boys. It's my main forte, 2501 03:26:35,640 --> 03:26:40,635 I write for children but for boys rather than girls. 2502 03:26:43,680 --> 03:26:48,038 Imagine, one boy kissed my hand. I blushed. 2503 03:26:48,680 --> 03:26:52,560 That boy was, so, happy that I did his essay for him that 2504 03:26:52,720 --> 03:26:57,590 he kissed my hand - just imagine a boy kissing another boy's hand. 2505 03:26:57,760 --> 03:27:02,914 That's something awful - I still feel a little queasy today. 2506 03:27:03,560 --> 03:27:07,554 That boy was ever, so, grateful. His name was Karel Zelniéek. 2507 03:27:07,720 --> 03:27:12,669 Today he is the boss of Olympia Publishing. He kissed my hand... 2508 03:27:12,840 --> 03:27:16,879 Maybe it was his father. Probably was his father. 2509 03:27:17,760 --> 03:27:20,991 As I mentioned at the hospital, 2510 03:27:22,760 --> 03:27:25,798 there were five of them: 2511 03:27:25,960 --> 03:27:32,878 Cervenéfzek, Rychlonoika, Hojer, Duéin and Jarka Metelka. 2512 03:27:33,600 --> 03:27:38,674 Five, like a hand, these are practical things and that 2513 03:27:38,840 --> 03:27:42,674 that organisation isn't bigger. That it never occurs to them 2514 03:27:42,840 --> 03:27:47,038 to create a big organisation like the Vonts with those pins. 2515 03:27:47,680 --> 03:27:50,638 Every one of them remains a person in his own right. 2516 03:27:50,800 --> 03:27:52,632 What else can one add? 2517 03:27:52,800 --> 03:27:56,953 Well, I must admit, I don't know what you mean. 2518 03:27:59,600 --> 03:28:04,800 Simply there were five and I can't think of any other members. 2519 03:28:06,760 --> 03:28:10,719 But even, so, you guessed exactly rig ht. Today. 2520 03:28:10,880 --> 03:28:12,837 Did you see the elections today'? 2521 03:28:13,000 --> 03:28:18,678 No, I didn't. Only listened to the radio, 2522 03:28:18,840 --> 03:28:22,993 and then the film-makers came, meaning you... 2523 03:28:23,880 --> 03:28:29,990 Jindra Hojer, Jarka Metelka, Mirek Duéin, Rychlonoéka... 2524 03:28:30,640 --> 03:28:32,551 Who else? 2525 03:28:33,040 --> 03:28:36,874 Don't know any more who was the fifth. 2526 03:28:38,600 --> 03:28:41,911 But that's a real myth. 2527 03:28:42,600 --> 03:28:44,796 Yes, it has become a kind of legend... 2528 03:29:17,840 --> 03:29:22,869 Beings have two legs... 2529 03:29:23,680 --> 03:29:27,913 And birds have too... 2530 03:29:39,560 --> 03:29:44,873 We have two legs... 2531 03:29:45,560 --> 03:29:49,679 And birds too... 2532 03:30:04,040 --> 03:30:08,671 -You have become a legend. -I have become a legend 2533 03:30:08,840 --> 03:30:12,834 because of those books which keep being re-printed. 2534 03:30:13,000 --> 03:30:17,676 One would think the market must be satiated but no, 2535 03:30:17,840 --> 03:30:19,990 they keep being printed again and again. 2536 03:30:20,640 --> 03:30:26,591 I am not against it because they have to pay me a certain fee, 2537 03:30:26,760 --> 03:30:29,718 even though ifs nothing to shout about. 2538 03:30:29,880 --> 03:30:32,952 You don't have film? 2539 03:30:36,560 --> 03:30:41,839 We'll go back then. I also wanted a look over there... 2540 03:30:42,920 --> 03:30:45,719 It's too far for me. 2541 03:30:47,840 --> 03:30:50,593 When one is ninety-one, 2542 03:30:50,760 --> 03:30:54,833 if I was 30 or 40 I'd be jumping like a stag, 2543 03:30:55,000 --> 03:30:58,994 but in these circumstances it is difficult, 2544 03:30:59,640 --> 03:31:02,712 no more jumping. 2545 03:31:05,640 --> 03:31:10,815 -Those Sharp Arrows of yours... -Quick Arrows. 2546 03:31:10,840 --> 03:31:14,879 How did they get into uniforms of the young Communists? 2547 03:31:15,040 --> 03:31:17,873 I don't know, those people did it by themselves. 2548 03:31:18,040 --> 03:31:23,831 I wasn't allowed to publish, they didn't play by Queensbury Rules 2549 03:31:24,000 --> 03:31:28,710 you know, they added their own texts to the comics. 2550 03:31:28,880 --> 03:31:31,918 I wasn't able to stop them. 2551 03:31:36,560 --> 03:31:41,873 That means that figure which you created or the five figures, 2552 03:31:42,560 --> 03:31:45,996 travelled on paths of which you knew not, 2553 03:31:46,640 --> 03:31:48,631 they were influenced by other people. 2554 03:31:48,800 --> 03:31:50,916 Exactly. Influenced by other people, 2555 03:31:51,560 --> 03:31:55,918 I no longer had any impact to change it one way or another. 2556 03:31:56,600 --> 03:32:00,719 That means you promoted some kind of ethic and 2557 03:32:00,880 --> 03:32:04,555 they took the advertised figurines and 2558 03:32:04,720 --> 03:32:07,030 fused on to them a completely different morality. 2559 03:32:07,680 --> 03:32:09,717 Something like that. 2560 03:32:09,880 --> 03:32:13,669 But, in essence, the morality was still all right, 2561 03:32:13,840 --> 03:32:17,913 there was nothing bad, so, I didn't keep my trap shut. 2562 03:32:18,560 --> 03:32:22,758 That they didn't run concentration camps... 2563 03:32:31,000 --> 03:32:34,630 -We'll squeeze through, careful. -I won't fall. 2564 03:32:34,800 --> 03:32:37,713 -Are we going still further? -I will carry you across. 2565 03:32:37,880 --> 03:32:40,952 No, it looks like we better get back to the car. 2566 03:32:41,640 --> 03:32:45,759 Over there somewhere is the car? 2567 03:32:46,640 --> 03:32:49,553 Down, along that path we'll go. 2568 03:32:50,720 --> 03:32:54,600 -Where is the car? -On the road. 2569 03:32:54,760 --> 03:32:57,673 We'll have to backtrack again... 2570 03:32:58,960 --> 03:33:04,831 Life of mine is complicated, it's difficult to explain. 2571 03:33:05,000 --> 03:33:09,836 I have experienced things that when I think of it at night 2572 03:33:10,000 --> 03:33:15,678 I say to myself that I had an interesting life unlike others. 2573 03:33:15,840 --> 03:33:20,710 If it was possible I would like to change things today. 2574 03:33:21,760 --> 03:33:24,878 It's difficult to put these things into words. 2575 03:33:25,560 --> 03:33:29,633 Not easy to explain certain events. 2576 03:33:29,800 --> 03:33:34,715 There was the Secret Police, the Gestapo and so on... 2577 03:33:34,880 --> 03:33:38,669 And all that intruded into my life. 2578 03:33:38,840 --> 03:33:43,869 I was interrogated all the time, for example in Bartoloméjské Street, 2579 03:33:44,560 --> 03:33:51,910 they came with some photograph, made me wait in some room and 2580 03:33:52,560 --> 03:33:59,671 suddenly stared at me showing me a photograph 2581 03:33:59,840 --> 03:34:05,677 of 8 or 9 battered young people and said: 2582 03:34:05,840 --> 03:34:10,710 your scouts did that, your scouts were responsible. 2583 03:34:10,880 --> 03:34:14,760 I had to keep my gob shut because I've been a scout 2584 03:34:14,800 --> 03:34:17,918 since I was 13 and I've never seen anything like it. 2585 03:34:18,560 --> 03:34:20,836 Where did you get such photos? 2586 03:34:20,880 --> 03:34:24,635 It's none of your business where we got it from. 2587 03:34:24,800 --> 03:34:30,876 There were 8 or 9 battered youngsters. 2588 03:34:32,000 --> 03:34:35,595 Where they got it from I don't know. 2589 03:34:36,680 --> 03:34:41,675 I forget lots and when I wake up in then morning 2590 03:34:41,840 --> 03:34:47,791 I am not sure what was a dream and what actually happened. 2591 03:34:48,000 --> 03:34:52,756 Thus, I always remind myself how it was during the night, so - 2592 03:34:52,920 --> 03:34:54,877 What did you dream about lately'? 2593 03:34:55,040 --> 03:34:58,829 I dreamt that I saw a house which collapsed and 2594 03:34:59,000 --> 03:35:02,994 inside were 14 people and they were all dead, and I saw 2595 03:35:03,640 --> 03:35:07,952 how those people got taken away from that ruin. 2596 03:35:08,640 --> 03:35:10,790 Such stupid dreams I have. 2597 03:35:10,960 --> 03:35:14,590 What's Vé0ha|'s relationship with Lukeé? 2598 03:35:17,960 --> 03:35:20,793 Like a blacksmith with his apprentice. 2599 03:35:24,560 --> 03:35:27,996 He created, published those books 2600 03:35:28,680 --> 03:35:30,990 similarly, but Véchal did it professionally. 2601 03:35:31,640 --> 03:35:35,793 Lukeé hasn't the erudition, craft 2602 03:35:37,560 --> 03:35:41,633 but does have intentions... 2603 03:35:41,800 --> 03:35:45,680 He published several book series. We only know 2604 03:35:45,840 --> 03:35:50,835 Stuchlik's edition, fiction which he illustrated by himself 2605 03:35:51,000 --> 03:35:55,870 and wrote the text using fine calligraphy. 2606 03:35:56,040 --> 03:36:02,036 And Véchal also made the bed here, look, here it's written: 2607 03:36:02,680 --> 03:36:06,958 tucked up - HOSPITAL - to rest the sleepy head, 2608 03:36:07,600 --> 03:36:12,549 a loving haven for the first born and a death - bed readied 2609 03:36:12,720 --> 03:36:15,872 for one at death' door. 2610 03:36:16,560 --> 03:36:19,757 As far as we know, Luke' never ever made a bed up. 2611 03:36:19,920 --> 03:36:22,958 -But he did invent things. -That means that it's a fake. 2612 03:36:23,600 --> 03:36:26,035 But what kind of resistance of matter is there? 2613 03:36:26,680 --> 03:36:28,830 That is Horééek's fake. 2614 03:36:29,000 --> 03:36:32,914 He had a series of inventions... 2615 03:36:33,560 --> 03:36:36,996 Lukeé designed the plastic plan of the Czech Republic 2616 03:36:37,640 --> 03:36:42,669 which the Meéiar govt. has put in place in the Slovak Republic. 2617 03:36:42,840 --> 03:36:48,631 So, he, in fact, was ahead of the Meéiar regime by 40 years. 2618 03:36:49,840 --> 03:36:53,913 And he proposed synthetic chocolate made out of used tyres. 2619 03:36:54,960 --> 03:36:59,750 Véchal had typical Czech golden hands, unlike Lukeé. 2620 03:37:00,600 --> 03:37:03,991 ...but his brain was faultless. 2621 03:37:10,760 --> 03:37:12,797 Castle Haéek. 2622 03:37:19,880 --> 03:37:24,556 He wanted to make use of the globe lightning... 2623 03:37:24,720 --> 03:37:28,679 That self-criticism went hand in hand with Véchals'. 2624 03:37:28,720 --> 03:37:33,920 Where did he wish to use the globe lightning? 2625 03:37:37,920 --> 03:37:44,678 He directed normal lightning via a lightning conductor to a place 2626 03:37:44,840 --> 03:37:50,916 where he placed an unknown ratio of mercury and sulphur and, 2627 03:37:51,560 --> 03:37:56,760 thus, created gold. He had some such an alchemistical conception. 2628 03:37:56,920 --> 03:38:01,551 -Or the accumulation of things. -His chemistry was alchemy. 2629 03:38:01,720 --> 03:38:06,635 Lipnice Castle. Fly Agaric and Gem-studded Puffball. 2630 03:38:06,800 --> 03:38:11,715 Jungle in those notes remind me of the paintings on these walls, 2631 03:38:11,880 --> 03:38:16,636 on the other hand I'd say that Vachal has a certain style 2632 03:38:16,880 --> 03:38:19,998 which I recognise. Whereas that Lu keé... 2633 03:38:20,640 --> 03:38:22,950 -Maybe Lukeé has a style as well. -If only I recognised it... 2634 03:38:49,800 --> 03:38:52,838 -Mommy... -I talk to her aloud 2635 03:38:53,000 --> 03:38:55,992 when I am alone, quietly I converse with her, 2636 03:38:56,680 --> 03:38:58,796 so, people don't think I'm round the bend. 2637 03:38:58,960 --> 03:39:04,831 But I have memories, in the mornings I tend to say to myself 2638 03:39:05,000 --> 03:39:08,550 that it was only a dream, keep your marbles, 2639 03:39:08,720 --> 03:39:12,714 and, as a result, I am always depressed in the morning 2640 03:39:12,880 --> 03:39:16,555 because I am unsure what I dreamt was real or just a dream. 2641 03:39:16,720 --> 03:39:19,951 And one is half-asleep when they wake you at half past five 2642 03:39:20,640 --> 03:39:25,555 because at that time the cleaning ladies arrive who, 2643 03:39:25,720 --> 03:39:32,751 as a matter of principle, sweep everything and mop the floor, 2644 03:39:32,920 --> 03:39:35,673 and that's more important than anything else. 2645 03:39:35,840 --> 03:39:38,719 That's some fine hill, isn't it? 2646 03:39:42,680 --> 03:39:45,877 -Still further? -Well, we will go back down 2647 03:39:46,040 --> 03:39:48,839 and they will remain at the top... 2648 03:39:49,000 --> 03:39:55,918 So, they'll take you back to Kré by car. 2649 03:39:56,600 --> 03:39:59,937 Vienna St. 800, Kré, Prague 4. 2650 03:39:59,960 --> 03:40:00,552 Vienna St. 800, Kré, Prague 4. 2651 03:40:04,680 --> 03:40:08,594 -How many books did you write? Roughly 25 books. 2652 03:40:09,720 --> 03:40:11,631 I wanted to tell you that 2653 03:40:11,800 --> 03:40:14,792 I used to run to the train like in your book, 2654 03:40:14,960 --> 03:40:19,750 I used to race a train. To increase my strength. 2655 03:40:21,720 --> 03:40:23,711 It's a bit iffy here. 2656 03:40:23,880 --> 03:40:27,714 You know what, go in front of us Mrs... walk down and 2657 03:40:27,880 --> 03:40:29,871 I will go with him and you must catch us up again 2658 03:40:30,560 --> 03:40:35,760 because I could slip whereas Mr. Foglar must... 2659 03:40:35,920 --> 03:40:38,958 -Not there, here... -Trosky Castle. 2660 03:40:39,640 --> 03:40:42,837 Hey wait, you have something holding your leg... 2661 03:40:43,000 --> 03:40:46,595 It's O.K. now. It's all right now... 2662 03:40:52,640 --> 03:40:54,711 Bearded Milk-cap. 2663 03:40:59,920 --> 03:41:04,835 Gottwalds speech is at an end and after it the Stakhanovites, 2664 03:41:05,000 --> 03:41:08,709 Comrade Tipster, our women Comrades Matey, Sprightly... 2665 03:41:08,880 --> 03:41:10,791 are getting their commendations. 2666 03:41:10,960 --> 03:41:13,793 Now we have the comrades' roll-call. 2667 03:41:13,960 --> 03:41:16,998 The Comrade Secretary always calls somebody up 2668 03:41:17,640 --> 03:41:20,871 and all of them say Thank You, Comradely Greetings. 2669 03:41:22,880 --> 03:41:26,760 Comrade Sprightleee... 2670 03:41:32,040 --> 03:41:36,557 Thank you, Comradely Greeeeeetings - 2671 03:41:36,720 --> 03:41:38,870 a kind of interlude again - 2672 03:41:46,960 --> 03:41:49,873 looking for the Diploma... 2673 03:41:56,000 --> 03:41:58,913 Comrade Swotteee... 2674 03:42:04,600 --> 03:42:06,989 Thank you, Comradely Greetings. 2675 03:42:07,680 --> 03:42:11,992 That interlude is always spot on, they pick their commendations. 2676 03:42:12,680 --> 03:42:15,832 Then the comrades, comrade Tipster, 2677 03:42:16,000 --> 03:42:19,550 and they sing in unison those comrade brothers and sisters. 2678 03:42:19,880 --> 03:42:22,952 During 24 hours 2679 03:42:23,640 --> 03:42:28,760 1500 billion H worth of deals are made all over the world. 2680 03:42:28,920 --> 03:42:30,638 Chlum Castle. 2681 03:42:30,800 --> 03:42:36,716 ...meanwhile in the banks there are only 650 billion 11 as cover. 2682 03:42:36,880 --> 03:42:40,589 The interest which flows from these fictional transactions, 2683 03:42:40,760 --> 03:42:42,797 which go up in thin air is enormous. 2684 03:42:42,960 --> 03:42:44,997 Boot-face Fungus. 2685 03:42:46,600 --> 03:42:49,877 Only thing he knows how to do, that brat Rezek, 2686 03:42:50,560 --> 03:42:53,712 is how to grab publicity in this way. 2687 03:42:53,880 --> 03:42:55,951 A silly question. 2688 03:42:56,640 --> 03:43:00,998 Why doesn't Petr Rezek teach at the Philosophical Faculty? 2689 03:43:03,720 --> 03:43:09,955 That is a question which has been answered long ago. 2690 03:43:10,600 --> 03:43:13,877 He was originally named as a Senior Lecturer 2691 03:43:14,560 --> 03:43:18,997 in Philosophy and Aesthetical Theory at the Acad. of Fine Arts, 2692 03:43:19,680 --> 03:43:23,833 then succeeded in an advertised post at the Philosophical Dept. 2693 03:43:24,000 --> 03:43:27,675 And then he left. I don't know why, just that 2694 03:43:27,840 --> 03:43:35,840 he was successful according to the DeptJs regulations. 2695 03:43:37,720 --> 03:43:42,749 I am under the impression that he wasn't sacked, he resigned. 2696 03:43:42,920 --> 03:43:45,912 And now he nurtures philosophy as a one-man band, 2697 03:43:46,600 --> 03:43:49,911 so, your question, in this sense, has been answered. 2698 03:43:50,560 --> 03:43:53,678 And how should you nurture philosophy? 2699 03:43:53,840 --> 03:43:57,674 That's for a long discourse 2700 03:43:57,840 --> 03:44:00,639 as philosophy accounts for itself. 2701 03:44:00,800 --> 03:44:07,718 I still see philosophers somewhere else than in orgs... 2702 03:44:12,600 --> 03:44:15,831 But I am not sure if philosophers are somewhere else. 2703 03:44:16,000 --> 03:44:18,594 There are various philosophers at different places, 2704 03:44:18,760 --> 03:44:22,799 the term philosophy has in your interpretation a double-meaning. 2705 03:44:22,960 --> 03:44:27,716 One which nurtures and engages philosophy on whatever level 2706 03:44:27,880 --> 03:44:30,918 and, then philosophers who are the real thing. 2707 03:44:31,600 --> 03:44:36,037 Those real ones are intermittently within themselves. 2708 03:44:36,680 --> 03:44:38,717 Sometimes they hit the target more, sometimes less, 2709 03:44:38,880 --> 03:44:41,952 there will probably never be a situation 2710 03:44:42,600 --> 03:44:44,830 where at particular workplace they are all super-duper. 2711 03:44:45,000 --> 03:44:48,755 It'll always be a mix of various levels. 2712 03:44:48,920 --> 03:44:50,911 And also different focus. 2713 03:44:51,600 --> 03:44:53,830 In a certain era, for a particular philosopher. 2714 03:44:54,000 --> 03:44:55,832 In one or other problem. 2715 03:44:56,000 --> 03:44:59,789 So, I would not see the absence of philosophy, so, disastrously. 2716 03:44:59,960 --> 03:45:05,751 -FAN SUITABLE FOR DRYING HOUSES -I was the Rector who 2717 03:45:05,920 --> 03:45:10,835 dissolved the Institute of Marxism-Leninism in '89. 2718 03:45:11,000 --> 03:45:15,756 And immediately I tried to place non-conformist philosophers 2719 03:45:15,920 --> 03:45:17,911 into the University posts. 2720 03:45:19,640 --> 03:45:26,637 Have you noticed that what Rezek wrote in the newspapers 2721 03:45:26,800 --> 03:45:30,634 is making waves, that it is good for the society. 2722 03:45:30,800 --> 03:45:33,599 Sometimes maybe well, sometimes also rather contentiously. 2723 03:45:33,760 --> 03:45:38,834 Do you remember the scene from Menze|'s "Capricious summer"? 2724 03:45:40,720 --> 03:45:46,830 I just don't understand, you are a man of letters, 2725 03:45:47,000 --> 03:45:51,631 Ambassador, now a bureaucrat, a Minister 2726 03:45:51,800 --> 03:45:55,998 is that a coherent existence? Is it a coherent existence? 2727 03:45:56,640 --> 03:46:00,759 Nobody can answer your complicated questions. 2728 03:46:00,920 --> 03:46:04,834 All those people are used to editing. 2729 03:46:05,000 --> 03:46:07,674 In a classical mode it is not coherent. 2730 03:46:09,600 --> 03:46:12,797 That means I should be a politician as well? 2731 03:46:13,960 --> 03:46:19,592 It just happened to me, I hope it doesn't happen to you. 2732 03:46:19,760 --> 03:46:23,594 I would say to him, if I was asked such a question, 2733 03:46:23,760 --> 03:46:30,678 that everything is intertwined, he didn't ask to be a Minister. 2734 03:46:30,840 --> 03:46:33,912 Similarly, he did not ask to be a writer. 2735 03:46:34,640 --> 03:46:38,998 He must have it inside him or he has to be asked. 2736 03:46:39,680 --> 03:46:43,560 But that's something else. 2737 03:46:43,800 --> 03:46:47,680 He was a writer, then somebody believed in him 2738 03:46:47,840 --> 03:46:50,798 and thought he would run the Ministry competently. 2739 03:46:53,560 --> 03:46:59,033 But he is sucked into the system and the system does it's job. 2740 03:46:59,680 --> 03:47:03,560 I am looking for you, we're sitting over there with Bohunka. 2741 03:47:03,720 --> 03:47:07,839 I don't like Menzels film very much but I will remember. 2742 03:47:09,560 --> 03:47:11,995 MrHiréal please sit down here. 2743 03:47:12,640 --> 03:47:17,555 Remember that scene where the climber Menzel walks the rope. 2744 03:47:17,720 --> 03:47:21,839 Some local-yokel says: don't, you'll fall. 2745 03:47:22,000 --> 03:47:27,791 But his bread and butter is solely his rope-walking. 2746 03:47:27,960 --> 03:47:33,876 So, he has no choice. And the yokel played by Zéhorsky, 2747 03:47:34,040 --> 03:47:36,634 repeats himself: come down, you'll fall and then 2748 03:47:36,800 --> 03:47:40,873 he starts to shake the pole on which the rope is secured 2749 03:47:41,560 --> 03:47:47,590 and rope-walker Menzel falls and damages, I think, his leg. 2750 03:47:47,760 --> 03:47:50,718 So, he loses his means of employment. 2751 03:47:50,880 --> 03:47:53,918 As if the aforementioned said: I told you you'll fall, 2752 03:47:54,560 --> 03:47:57,791 although by shaking the rope he is the cause of it. 2753 03:47:57,960 --> 03:48:01,919 Well, I am filming the rising of the dead. 2754 03:48:02,560 --> 03:48:06,599 Café Slavie is re-opening 8 years after the revolution 2755 03:48:06,760 --> 03:48:09,878 and I don't know how many years it has been closed but 2756 03:48:10,560 --> 03:48:13,712 ifs a funny event. 2757 03:48:13,880 --> 03:48:20,638 You, you are creating the Pine eff air... 2758 03:48:22,720 --> 03:48:26,031 Do you mind, I am not responsible. 2759 03:48:26,680 --> 03:48:30,799 -It was created and he took part. -He caused it himself. 2760 03:48:30,960 --> 03:48:34,999 And why is that? He published other people's material 2761 03:48:35,640 --> 03:48:37,756 as his own, and then didn't admit it? 2762 03:48:37,920 --> 03:48:40,673 He just has a bad memory, isn't that so. 2763 03:48:40,840 --> 03:48:43,639 On the one hand good memory, on the other not. 2764 03:48:43,800 --> 03:48:45,711 What he reads he remembers 2765 03:48:45,880 --> 03:48:48,759 and then forgets where he got it from. 2766 03:48:49,040 --> 03:48:51,953 It happens to others, not just him. 2767 03:48:52,640 --> 03:48:57,669 And there is another thing, the affair Sokol (Falcon). 2768 03:48:57,840 --> 03:48:59,717 I just opened the newspaper and you again wrote... 2769 03:48:59,880 --> 03:49:04,875 Seared. -You, philosopher Rezek wrote: 2770 03:49:05,560 --> 03:49:09,713 he teaches his students out of something that is trimmed down, 2771 03:49:09,880 --> 03:49:11,996 incomplete like. 2772 03:49:12,720 --> 03:49:16,839 Well, that Pinc forgot the quotation marks and Sokol, 2773 03:49:17,000 --> 03:49:19,560 this time, puts them where they don't belong. 2774 03:49:19,960 --> 03:49:23,954 Brilliant. -A perfect double. 2775 03:49:24,600 --> 03:49:27,831 That's super, he puts quotation marks around words, 2776 03:49:28,000 --> 03:49:30,799 his thoughts as if they were quoted ideas of others. 2777 03:49:30,960 --> 03:49:33,554 In fact they are his own. A stroke of genius. 2778 03:49:33,720 --> 03:49:36,599 You follow court cases and 2779 03:49:36,760 --> 03:49:39,752 cause problems to those who win the disputes. 2780 03:49:39,920 --> 03:49:42,753 StFekov Castle. Wood Blewit. 2781 03:49:42,920 --> 03:49:45,958 No. We don't cause problems 2782 03:49:46,600 --> 03:49:47,999 for those who are victorious in a court dispute but 2783 03:49:48,680 --> 03:49:52,594 to those who allow court cases to be won 2784 03:49:52,760 --> 03:49:53,989 by those who should not... 2785 03:49:54,680 --> 03:49:56,796 What are the recent major affairs that are in motion... 2786 03:49:57,720 --> 03:49:59,936 You know what feeling I have? A horrendous feeling. 2787 03:49:59,960 --> 03:50:00,711 You know what feeling I have? A horrendous feeling. 2788 03:50:00,880 --> 03:50:03,952 Like as if you rip my belly open top to bottom, 2789 03:50:04,600 --> 03:50:08,958 have a wriggle with my guts throw them back and sew it up. 2790 03:50:09,600 --> 03:50:10,829 What a feeling. 2791 03:50:11,000 --> 03:50:14,630 It's questionable how much you can oscillate 2792 03:50:14,800 --> 03:50:18,634 in the sensitive position to which Czech philosophy got in... 2793 03:50:18,800 --> 03:50:21,679 -Koét'élov Castle. -...fairly quickly. 2794 03:50:21,840 --> 03:50:25,993 The conclusions from very respected philosophers, 2795 03:50:26,640 --> 03:50:29,758 Gadamer, Schaller, are extremely positive, 2796 03:50:29,920 --> 03:50:32,799 for example, relating to the quality of Czech phenomenology. 2797 03:50:32,960 --> 03:50:37,670 And those methods and behaviour can threaten it... 2798 03:50:37,840 --> 03:50:39,672 Velvet Shank. 2799 03:50:39,840 --> 03:50:42,878 ...and shake it by unfair criticism. 2800 03:50:43,040 --> 03:50:44,917 Criticism which is below the belt etc.. 2801 03:50:45,600 --> 03:50:47,034 It is even dangerous. 2802 03:50:47,840 --> 03:50:51,595 Affairs don't interest me officially 2803 03:50:51,760 --> 03:50:59,760 but we're working on a new case, relating to Mr. Bér and a group 2804 03:51:02,680 --> 03:51:04,637 which was tried and jailed 20 years ago. 2805 03:51:04,800 --> 03:51:05,949 Everyone wants to sweep it under the carpet. 2806 03:51:06,640 --> 03:51:08,950 It's a typical fabricated case 1950's type, 2807 03:51:09,600 --> 03:51:13,673 but during the 1970's it was all public and the result is that 2808 03:51:13,840 --> 03:51:15,956 the judiciary does not want to re-open it even though 2809 03:51:16,600 --> 03:51:19,638 the people spent 12 years in jail and families were destroyed. 2810 03:51:19,800 --> 03:51:22,553 MrsParkanové is dismissing MrHorky who is a judge 2811 03:51:22,720 --> 03:51:26,679 who meant to release a murderer after four years incarceration. 2812 03:51:26,840 --> 03:51:29,753 Judge Horky is the biggest scoundrel in the judiciary. 2813 03:51:33,760 --> 03:51:40,757 To answer Véclavs question as to "who is the Police for", 2814 03:51:40,920 --> 03:51:47,553 then maybe here is a way to some extent to comprehend 2815 03:51:47,720 --> 03:51:53,875 what happened here after 1990. I don't think, as Petr Uhl said, 2816 03:51:54,040 --> 03:52:01,674 that the West has an edge in refusing paternalism and so on. 2817 03:52:01,840 --> 03:52:04,673 I would say that we still have a lead. 2818 03:52:04,840 --> 03:52:09,835 Because during those ten years there is no effective authority 2819 03:52:10,000 --> 03:52:13,550 and that is the cause of our problems. 2820 03:52:13,720 --> 03:52:17,998 We even have freedom from rules. From any kind of responsibility. 2821 03:52:18,680 --> 03:52:24,756 By the refusal of a false communist set of rules 2822 03:52:24,920 --> 03:52:28,754 we were no longer prepared to accept another. 2823 03:52:28,920 --> 03:52:31,958 To form a new set of regulations. 2824 03:52:33,640 --> 03:52:35,950 I believe that Horky is one of the best judges in this country. 2825 03:52:36,000 --> 03:52:39,630 He behaves very correctly and isn't prepared to convict people 2826 03:52:39,800 --> 03:52:42,553 on the basis of half-baked evidence proposed by the Police 2827 03:52:42,720 --> 03:52:46,953 and the Prosecutor which says that somebody is a crook. 2828 03:52:47,640 --> 03:52:50,632 I can be convinced 1000 times that someone is a crook but, 2829 03:52:50,800 --> 03:52:53,838 surely, I cannot convict simply because he is unsympathetic. 2830 03:52:54,000 --> 03:52:57,675 Four years on remand! How long a remand is necessary, 2831 03:52:57,840 --> 03:52:59,911 how long will it take to convict them'? 2832 03:53:00,600 --> 03:53:02,750 Four years, six years, eight years, ten years? 2833 03:53:02,920 --> 03:53:04,991 We must convict them and not hold them on remand. 2834 03:53:05,680 --> 03:53:08,718 That's the re-opened coffee-house Slavie. 2835 03:53:08,880 --> 03:53:11,952 It is the married-to-be lass from Sabina's libretto. 2836 03:53:12,600 --> 03:53:14,671 The bride of the whole Czech nation... 2837 03:53:14,840 --> 03:53:18,993 In Kolléfis spirit it is the mother of Slavia. 2838 03:53:20,600 --> 03:53:24,559 Slavia is celebrating a form of re-birth - 2839 03:53:24,720 --> 03:53:28,873 if you were to congratulate firstly, Slavia, then the public. 2840 03:53:29,040 --> 03:53:32,795 -In what Party are you? -I am not in any. 2841 03:53:32,960 --> 03:53:37,670 My father always used to say: ifs impossible to be in a Party. 2842 03:53:37,840 --> 03:53:41,959 -I am a non-Party creature. -Well, I'm pleased. 2843 03:53:42,640 --> 03:53:44,677 Slavie from SLAVUS meaning Slovanic and, 2844 03:53:44,840 --> 03:53:46,911 so, I would like to offer my congratulations via Latin verse 2845 03:53:47,600 --> 03:53:49,637 which came to me as I was walking just now. 2846 03:53:49,800 --> 03:53:53,680 The poem is called STABAT MATTER. Slavia, of course, 2847 03:53:53,840 --> 03:53:54,989 and reads... 2848 03:54:07,920 --> 03:54:10,673 -How do you like it here? -Fantastic. 2849 03:54:10,840 --> 03:54:14,879 Many hold it against Slavia or are surprised that 2850 03:54:15,040 --> 03:54:16,997 it has remained how it used to be. 2851 03:54:17,040 --> 03:54:20,874 It's right that she has returned to the days of the 1st Republic. 2852 03:54:21,040 --> 03:54:23,714 You are involved in court cases. Then tell me something about it. 2853 03:54:23,880 --> 03:54:28,750 -KniZék's poster and Havel. -For me that's just silly. 2854 03:54:28,920 --> 03:54:34,791 -Any sense in it? -No sense, only for the media, 2855 03:54:35,680 --> 03:54:37,990 then, maybe somebody wants to gratify one's... 2856 03:54:38,680 --> 03:54:40,796 Scaly Cluster Fungus. 2857 03:54:40,960 --> 03:54:45,591 Because why would the President object to being like a mushroom 2858 03:54:45,760 --> 03:54:47,990 with a shoe on a poster, that poster is beautiful. 2859 03:54:48,640 --> 03:54:50,870 -Kamy'/k Castle. -He shouldn't mind, 2860 03:54:51,040 --> 03:54:54,556 ifs not Véclav but his bust which Kniiék created, so, 2861 03:54:54,720 --> 03:54:57,030 ifs not a genuine Mr. Havel and it's not the fault 2862 03:54:57,680 --> 03:55:02,550 of the doggie Dééenka when Mrs President identifies with it. 2863 03:55:02,720 --> 03:55:05,758 In the firvst place, there was Karel Capek's Dééenka 2864 03:55:05,920 --> 03:55:07,718 and then MrsPresident started to use the name. 2865 03:55:07,880 --> 03:55:11,589 And, in particular, Mr. and Mrs. President want money and 2866 03:55:11,760 --> 03:55:14,991 they want to give the money to some charity. 2867 03:55:15,680 --> 03:55:18,638 If I was ridden by cancer I wouldn't want the money but 2868 03:55:18,800 --> 03:55:21,633 rather have the poster. 2869 03:55:21,800 --> 03:55:24,952 And you elaborated on this "Véclav" mushroom. 2870 03:55:26,920 --> 03:55:30,550 Well, someone a bit thick like me 2871 03:55:30,720 --> 03:55:33,553 wouldn't get the point of the poster in the least. 2872 03:55:33,720 --> 03:55:36,838 I thought that the "Vécla\/' mushroom is a kind of promotion 2873 03:55:37,000 --> 03:55:40,914 for the same-named passageway 2874 03:55:41,560 --> 03:55:44,598 from Charlie Square towards Have|'s house on Raéin Quay. 2875 03:55:44,760 --> 03:55:48,640 I didn't cotton on that it's the sale of shoes. 2876 03:55:48,800 --> 03:55:51,633 I didn't understand that either. 2877 03:55:51,800 --> 03:55:54,792 Well, and that little Dééenka is there for decoration. 2878 03:55:57,600 --> 03:55:59,910 As you're in such a good mood 2879 03:56:00,640 --> 03:56:03,029 we could have a singalong to loosen up a bit, 2880 03:56:03,760 --> 03:56:06,036 in order to let go of the tension. 2881 03:56:06,680 --> 03:56:10,560 Move back a teeny bit please, back, it's falling apart, 2882 03:56:10,720 --> 03:56:13,872 only a wee little bit please, I can see that it's working, 2883 03:56:14,560 --> 03:56:19,555 brilliant that it's working, so, well, move back a little bit, 2884 03:56:19,720 --> 03:56:24,794 a bit of living space for all those thousands of people 2885 03:56:24,960 --> 03:56:26,837 who are waiting here for hours... 2886 03:56:33,840 --> 03:56:37,993 This is a jacket for the House of Fashion created in the 50's, 2887 03:56:38,640 --> 03:56:43,555 the shirt is Italian, logically those women fans tore it apart. 2888 03:56:43,720 --> 03:56:46,633 Us intellectual nitwits, always get it 2889 03:56:46,800 --> 03:56:51,556 from those bad signings. 2890 03:56:55,640 --> 03:57:00,635 Yeah panties, my trophy, I have to show it off, 2891 03:57:02,840 --> 03:57:06,754 I got them from a woman-friend who I know for 15 years, look, 2892 03:57:06,920 --> 03:57:12,711 from a period, quite fresh. Perfect, yep. What else? 2893 03:57:12,880 --> 03:57:16,714 New Doc Martin's, in another words Gladiators, 2894 03:57:17,000 --> 03:57:21,551 well as far as clothes are concerned we've solved it. 2895 03:57:22,040 --> 03:57:27,797 -|'m looking for you, by the way. -Let me introduce my new wife. 2896 03:57:27,960 --> 03:57:32,909 No longer with Monica then, pestered her to death or what? 2897 03:57:33,600 --> 03:57:37,594 Monika comes to visit at night, 2898 03:57:37,760 --> 03:57:41,674 mostly when we're about have sexual intercourse... 2899 03:57:41,840 --> 03:57:43,672 Voyeur! 2900 03:57:44,640 --> 03:57:48,793 Yeah, I forgot that baseball cap, God knows why I took it with me. 2901 03:57:48,960 --> 03:57:53,830 But I've realised that Renault is sponsoring the Plastics tour. 2902 03:57:54,000 --> 03:57:55,877 See you. 2903 03:57:57,760 --> 03:58:01,799 She's studying at the Uni. and were below subsistence level. 2904 03:58:01,960 --> 03:58:05,794 Studying? What for, blockhead? 2905 03:58:05,960 --> 03:58:10,750 Not clever enough, is she? She has to study... 2906 03:58:14,000 --> 03:58:16,674 Czechs are the best... 2907 03:58:27,600 --> 03:58:30,991 Czechs, Czechs... 2908 03:58:36,960 --> 03:58:39,839 -You are not signing? -No, a little hitch, 2909 03:58:40,000 --> 03:58:42,799 I think, waiting for further signings, it'll be... 2910 03:58:42,960 --> 03:58:45,873 -And who else will be signing? -At the moment 2911 03:58:46,560 --> 03:58:49,598 I don't have anything to sign. Not coming at the moment. 2912 03:58:50,640 --> 03:58:52,631 And they do not want it just from you? 2913 03:58:52,800 --> 03:58:56,634 But yes, I've signed for those who were in the shop... 2914 03:58:58,720 --> 03:59:03,794 -So, there'|| be more to sign... -We're waiting if it comes off. 2915 03:59:04,800 --> 03:59:07,553 We will leave the song for later because now 2916 03:59:07,720 --> 03:59:12,590 we will watch the TV screens. It looks like our hockey players 2917 03:59:12,760 --> 03:59:16,719 are approaching the residence of Mr. President. 2918 03:59:23,600 --> 03:59:24,920 And what if nobody comes... 2919 03:59:25,600 --> 03:59:27,989 We have to wait for another 20 mins. to see if they arrive 2920 03:59:28,640 --> 03:59:31,871 otherwise it will be without the signatures Mr.and Mrs. President. 2921 03:59:32,560 --> 03:59:36,838 We have it from Mrs. Rakuéanové, formerly it was meant like that. 2922 03:59:38,640 --> 03:59:40,836 Rockers survive all, man. 2923 03:59:41,000 --> 03:59:47,633 Look, I gave a speech at the funeral of Jirka Tichy, 2924 03:59:47,800 --> 03:59:49,950 about two months back and 2925 03:59:50,600 --> 03:59:53,991 five people wanted me to give an oration speech at their funeral. 2926 03:59:54,640 --> 03:59:59,760 I gave a funeral oration for Kuba Némec, the lad who died 2927 03:59:59,960 --> 04:00:02,554 right at the time he stopped taking drugs and 2928 04:00:02,720 --> 04:00:05,872 about twenty people there wanted a funeral speech from me. 2929 04:00:06,040 --> 04:00:10,750 I said: you arseholes, you're 20 or 30 years younger than me 2930 04:00:10,920 --> 04:00:13,594 and Jana Némcova, Hlavsova as was, said 2931 04:00:13,760 --> 04:00:16,991 that you will outlive us all. And it's true. 2932 04:00:18,840 --> 04:00:23,755 Then we will say something to those newsmen and go again. 2933 04:00:24,920 --> 04:00:28,914 Because I am a mutant. Stop filming me, pricks, 2934 04:00:29,560 --> 04:00:31,551 otherwise I'll stamp all over your little toys. 2935 04:00:36,720 --> 04:00:41,749 Haéek isn't human, Haéek is a God... 2936 04:01:04,800 --> 04:01:08,714 But when it was possible for us to get rid 2937 04:01:08,880 --> 04:01:13,750 of ideological thinking, well, we should be careful that 2938 04:01:13,920 --> 04:01:17,834 a total lack of ideas doesn't arise out of it, 2939 04:01:18,000 --> 04:01:21,914 after deconstruction one should begin some new construction. 2940 04:01:24,680 --> 04:01:26,956 Haéek for President! 2941 04:01:27,640 --> 04:01:29,916 Haéek to the Castle... 2942 04:01:37,720 --> 04:01:39,950 Welcome home, 2943 04:01:43,760 --> 04:01:48,834 Dominik Haéek, the mainstay of our team, 2944 04:01:49,000 --> 04:01:53,870 the star of the championship, the best goalman in the world, 2945 04:01:54,560 --> 04:01:58,713 Dominik Haéeeeeek... 2946 04:01:59,560 --> 04:02:02,996 Nuclear physicists today are turning to us, philosophers, 2947 04:02:03,680 --> 04:02:09,790 to recollect our famous past and to begin work anew. 2948 04:02:09,960 --> 04:02:14,033 Post modern philosophy has got out of the habit. 2949 04:02:17,920 --> 04:02:22,835 It's been pushed into a corner a bit by scientific positivism. 2950 04:02:23,600 --> 04:02:29,551 A programme for generations, really. A very nice programme. 2951 04:02:29,720 --> 04:02:37,720 If the historical conditions were more apt one could say... 2952 04:02:38,760 --> 04:02:40,956 They're signing, 2953 04:02:41,600 --> 04:02:44,035 later they will be handing it on like a relay. 2954 04:02:44,680 --> 04:02:49,629 ...we are entering an era of an amazing intellectual adventure. 2955 04:02:49,800 --> 04:02:53,714 Gorgeous, in all subjects. 2956 04:02:53,880 --> 04:02:55,917 I'll give you little bells for luck. 2957 04:02:56,560 --> 04:02:57,994 I hope you will be happy together, 2958 04:02:58,640 --> 04:03:02,599 please, from you personally I need one signature. 2959 04:03:02,760 --> 04:03:06,958 I got this from your office over a year ago, please sign it. 2960 04:03:09,640 --> 04:03:13,599 And here a signature from both of you, please. 2961 04:03:13,840 --> 04:03:18,630 -Yes, that is already signed. -These books I've already signed. 2962 04:03:20,760 --> 04:03:24,674 In science, in philosophy, in art, in everything. 2963 04:03:24,840 --> 04:03:30,870 We would need more decent social conditions for that, 2964 04:03:31,040 --> 04:03:34,635 and in the twenty-first century, worse luck, they won't be there. 2965 04:03:34,800 --> 04:03:38,680 So, it will all regress. Needlessly. 2966 04:03:40,640 --> 04:03:48,640 Alfons Mucha was arrested in 1939 by the Gestapo 2967 04:03:48,920 --> 04:03:53,949 and on 14 July of that year died. 2968 04:03:57,880 --> 04:04:04,877 An end which was logical in terms of Nazi politics. 2969 04:04:05,560 --> 04:04:11,875 A person who drew a whole series of works devoted to this theme 2970 04:04:12,040 --> 04:04:15,874 was clearly damn uncomfortable to the Nazis. 2971 04:04:16,040 --> 04:04:21,558 The question remains, to what degree will that Slavenhaz, 2972 04:04:21,720 --> 04:04:23,870 that hatred towards Slavs, 2973 04:04:25,720 --> 04:04:32,797 in some way, under a difficult label, 2974 04:04:32,960 --> 04:04:36,590 be carried onwards. 2975 04:04:36,760 --> 04:04:40,037 Czechs, Czechs... 2976 04:04:50,880 --> 04:04:53,713 Stamp all over your little toys. 2977 04:04:53,880 --> 04:04:56,679 We always used the formal 'vous' between us, didn't we. 2978 04:04:56,920 --> 04:04:58,911 Méfa said you'd be here. 2979 04:05:00,800 --> 04:05:03,679 I still haven't seen your film. 2980 04:05:07,000 --> 04:05:09,958 You don't even have the decency to send me a videotape, 2981 04:05:10,640 --> 04:05:12,790 I don't have a video-player, logically, I have nothing, 2982 04:05:16,800 --> 04:05:21,033 but I have neighbours with a video. 2983 04:05:21,800 --> 04:05:24,758 Send it to me on tape, so, I can see it, 2984 04:05:24,920 --> 04:05:28,834 supposedly I am famous in it. 2985 04:05:29,760 --> 04:05:33,037 That film was fantastic, I saw it twice, 2986 04:05:33,680 --> 04:05:37,719 and how Mr.Cromwell is sitting in that empty Parliament Chamber 2987 04:05:38,760 --> 04:05:41,957 and says: I swear 2988 04:05:42,000 --> 04:05:46,710 that I will provide sound Government to the British people 2989 04:05:46,760 --> 04:05:49,673 even at the price that I govern alone. 2990 04:05:52,960 --> 04:05:56,669 Why do you always behave with me with such superiority'? 2991 04:05:56,840 --> 04:06:01,550 Me'? Maybe I have an advantage over you. 2992 04:06:03,680 --> 04:06:05,717 You are going too far... 2993 04:06:10,560 --> 04:06:13,951 Then his dictatorship started and 2994 04:06:15,640 --> 04:06:19,599 look where is the greatest democracy, in Great Britain; 2995 04:06:19,760 --> 04:06:22,752 England was never the same it had been before Cromwell. 2996 04:06:22,920 --> 04:06:26,709 Gave those good-for-nothings a hiding in the same way 2997 04:06:26,880 --> 04:06:30,953 as I will give you a hiding. I warned you to stop shooting. 2998 04:06:32,680 --> 04:06:35,752 A pity that the Czech TV did not show your New Year speech 2999 04:06:35,920 --> 04:06:40,915 because it would have been really worth it. 3000 04:06:41,560 --> 04:06:43,551 You saw it then? 3001 04:06:43,720 --> 04:06:47,679 Then you saw the chicken, spot on I think... 3002 04:06:49,920 --> 04:06:51,877 You Pandora created Zeus... 3003 04:06:52,040 --> 04:06:55,874 I would suggest, is Lubor here? Lubor? 3004 04:06:57,680 --> 04:06:59,671 Are there any Plastics in the house? 3005 04:06:59,840 --> 04:07:02,639 Vrét'a's there with Kéba. 3006 04:07:03,920 --> 04:07:06,719 ...so as to punish and humiliate you, Pandora, 3007 04:07:06,880 --> 04:07:08,757 and force on to a road of worthiness. 3008 04:07:08,920 --> 04:07:11,673 Into my box he stored all the world calamities and 3009 04:07:11,840 --> 04:07:12,989 sent bad times on to the people. 3010 04:07:13,680 --> 04:07:19,596 In the bottom of the box placed a gift which will not disappoint. 3011 04:07:19,960 --> 04:07:23,874 Kristyna, you have got somewhere where you don't belong. 3012 04:07:24,760 --> 04:07:26,831 It stifles me but 3013 04:07:27,960 --> 04:07:30,952 it is interesting and sometimes even amusing. 3014 04:07:31,640 --> 04:07:33,790 -To play with dolls? -Yes, with large dolls. 3015 04:07:33,960 --> 04:07:36,600 Do be careful, the Regicidal killer 3016 04:07:36,760 --> 04:07:38,671 -is behind the curtains. -Who would wish to kill me... 3017 04:07:38,840 --> 04:07:42,993 Charles I. said the same in England, everyone loves me 3018 04:07:43,640 --> 04:07:46,837 and the Cromwellites chopped his head off. 3019 04:07:47,000 --> 04:07:49,560 There are times I wish to be Cromwell 3020 04:07:49,720 --> 04:07:52,712 and cut my head off. 3021 04:07:57,640 --> 04:07:59,870 Czechs, Czechs! 3022 04:08:07,600 --> 04:08:11,798 Permanently I have a rose-like skin-complaint in both legs. 3023 04:08:11,960 --> 04:08:15,749 That's what one Dr. kept saying, you can't heal it, 3024 04:08:15,920 --> 04:08:20,790 you simply are that way. I fight all the time, any injury does. 3025 04:08:20,960 --> 04:08:26,956 The rules are unknown, the rules are generally created 3026 04:08:27,040 --> 04:08:31,910 according to how open officials' ears and pockets happen to be. 3027 04:08:32,600 --> 04:08:35,558 -You know Miss... -It's a little boy! 3028 04:08:35,720 --> 04:08:38,997 Imagine, my little lad, that communication - 3029 04:08:39,640 --> 04:08:44,874 one community hits the puck according to its reason and 3030 04:08:45,040 --> 04:08:48,670 then the puck is taken away by another community and 3031 04:08:48,840 --> 04:08:50,797 bangs it as it thinks fit and 3032 04:08:50,840 --> 04:08:54,993 the rules are clear and what matters is victory. 3033 04:08:55,840 --> 04:09:00,994 Russkies are for it and all saw it! 3034 04:09:06,000 --> 04:09:10,756 It's all about victory, it's like a war to subdue the rest... 3035 04:09:11,720 --> 04:09:12,676 Yes. 3036 04:09:13,560 --> 04:09:16,871 That's precisely the situation we are in today. 3037 04:09:17,000 --> 04:09:21,790 I got this from Saéa Juréékové, 3038 04:09:21,960 --> 04:09:25,999 she beat me up 4 days ago. 3039 04:09:26,680 --> 04:09:28,796 At a Dog's Soldiers gig at the Acropolis 3040 04:09:28,960 --> 04:09:31,873 and she engaged in Greco-roman fight, pretty good at it too, 3041 04:09:31,920 --> 04:09:35,675 as well as some three other Asiatic underhand sports. 3042 04:09:35,840 --> 04:09:39,037 We were sitting at a table in the front-hall 3043 04:09:39,680 --> 04:09:43,560 and I was giving some tale about my kids. 3044 04:09:43,720 --> 04:09:47,839 Probably thought it cynical. She has a new baby, that cunt, 3045 04:09:48,000 --> 04:09:50,753 so jumped across the table and went for me. 3046 04:09:50,920 --> 04:09:55,596 I had a proper fight with her... it's like the Sarajevo attentat. 3047 04:09:55,760 --> 04:09:59,936 Kicked her ribs in, stitched head, just trivial. 3048 04:09:59,960 --> 04:10:00,677 Kicked her ribs in, stitched head, just trivial. 3049 04:10:00,840 --> 04:10:04,993 I was, so, pissed, that the ribs began to hurt only 3 days after. 3050 04:10:05,560 --> 04:10:08,757 It's O.K. now. But the day before yesterday 3051 04:10:08,920 --> 04:10:11,560 I couldn't stand or lie down, nor sit down. 3052 04:10:11,720 --> 04:10:14,553 When I coughed or when I smiled... 3053 04:10:16,560 --> 04:10:19,916 Banged ribs are worse than broken ones. Bitch. 3054 04:10:20,600 --> 04:10:25,674 They've bringing my love to me.. 3055 04:10:25,840 --> 04:10:27,831 The film was created with the support of the State Foundation 3056 04:10:28,000 --> 04:10:30,833 for the Support and Development of Czech Cinema 3057 04:10:31,840 --> 04:10:35,913 Dear MrPresident, ladies and gentlemen, 3058 04:10:36,560 --> 04:10:37,994 dear colleagues. 3059 04:10:39,600 --> 04:10:43,992 Today's performance finished a successful series 3060 04:10:44,640 --> 04:10:48,918 of charitable performances which came to fruition 3061 04:10:49,600 --> 04:10:53,833 due to the involvement of Mrs. Dagmar Havlové 3062 04:10:54,880 --> 04:10:57,679 with the aim of helping the victims 3063 04:10:57,840 --> 04:11:01,754 of the tragic floods this year in Moravia. 3064 04:11:19,880 --> 04:11:24,670 Thank you for patience which you - 3065 04:11:24,840 --> 04:11:28,629 Milan shut the gob up during the signing. 3066 04:11:33,920 --> 04:11:37,959 Apologies for the delay but 3067 04:11:38,600 --> 04:11:41,797 there were some pricks filming from the TV. 3068 04:11:43,720 --> 04:11:49,591 I'd like to say that it is incredible 3069 04:11:50,560 --> 04:11:54,952 that the Plastics are signing a book of their texts... 3070 04:11:55,640 --> 04:11:59,918 that Lubor Mafa, a publisher, 3071 04:12:00,600 --> 04:12:05,595 got hold of a person who put it all together. 3072 04:12:05,760 --> 04:12:08,798 Because none of us had it all. 3073 04:12:13,560 --> 04:12:17,872 Jarda Rydl, no Reidl, ifs the same, what's in a name. 3074 04:12:18,560 --> 04:12:20,995 As William Shakespeare says: What's in a name? 3075 04:12:21,640 --> 04:12:25,759 That which we call a rose, by any other name would smell as sweet. 3076 04:12:25,920 --> 04:12:27,877 In short, 3077 04:12:31,680 --> 04:12:34,718 in November - revolution 3078 04:12:34,880 --> 04:12:36,871 of which yesterday we saw the anniversary, 3079 04:12:37,040 --> 04:12:41,671 we never imagined that we would live to see the day. 3080 04:12:41,840 --> 04:12:43,877 Succinctly - enough babble. 3081 04:12:44,040 --> 04:12:51,629 I want that you allow one minute silence as a mark of respect 3082 04:12:51,800 --> 04:12:58,593 for Michal Jernek, song-writer for the Plastic People, 3083 04:12:58,760 --> 04:13:00,797 who died yesterday. 3084 04:13:00,960 --> 04:13:05,557 Please, a minutes' silence for Michel Jernel, 3085 04:13:12,600 --> 04:13:15,911 Mejia, fuck it, he was your mate, 3086 04:13:16,880 --> 04:13:19,952 none of us is wearing a watch anyhow... 3087 04:13:21,640 --> 04:13:24,029 He died of stroke. 3088 04:13:24,880 --> 04:13:27,599 He played with the Plastics for 3 years, 3089 04:13:27,760 --> 04:13:33,597 I've lived with them for 30 years. It's amazing I haven't had a fit. 3090 04:13:36,600 --> 04:13:41,674 Long Live The Czech Golden Olympic Team 3091 04:13:41,920 --> 04:13:46,869 and 140000 Czechs who have come to say Thank You. 3092 04:13:48,720 --> 04:13:51,917 -I don't have an ear for music. -No brain, no stroke. 3093 04:13:52,320 --> 04:13:54,311 That alone saves me. 272847

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