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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:01,126 --> 00:00:02,753 What do you think?- 2 00:00:02,753 --> 00:00:06,089 Anyway, we um, lots of, lots of adventures. 3 00:00:06,089 --> 00:00:07,507 So, after everything 4 00:00:07,507 --> 00:00:10,177 you went through in the '90s, 5 00:00:10,177 --> 00:00:13,472 most people would stay out of politics but you didn't. 6 00:00:13,472 --> 00:00:15,265 Absolutely, yes. -And you 7 00:00:15,265 --> 00:00:16,767 eventually ran for president. - You know, look. 8 00:00:16,767 --> 00:00:21,730 I think I felt compelled to kind of get up and keep going 9 00:00:22,856 --> 00:00:25,234 and not to get knocked down, you know, 10 00:00:25,234 --> 00:00:28,403 you can literally pull the covers over your head 11 00:00:28,403 --> 00:00:30,489 and say my gosh I can't deal with this 12 00:00:30,489 --> 00:00:33,075 or you say screw you, you know what, 13 00:00:33,075 --> 00:00:35,911 I'm getting up, I'm getting dressed, getting my hair done, 14 00:00:35,911 --> 00:00:38,830 putting my makeup on and going out there. 15 00:01:16,285 --> 00:01:17,119 - Hello. 16 00:01:19,955 --> 00:01:20,789 - I won't. 17 00:01:21,498 --> 00:01:23,041 - Thank you, thank you. 18 00:01:23,041 --> 00:01:24,251 - Good luck in the election. 19 00:01:24,251 --> 00:01:25,252 - Thank you. 20 00:01:27,379 --> 00:01:29,339 - My God, my god. 21 00:01:31,508 --> 00:01:32,843 - You can take criticism seriously, 22 00:01:32,843 --> 00:01:34,928 because you may actually learn something right. 23 00:01:34,928 --> 00:01:37,347 I say that all the time. 24 00:01:37,347 --> 00:01:39,182 But don't take it personally. 25 00:01:40,350 --> 00:01:41,852 Because it can knock you to your knees 26 00:01:41,852 --> 00:01:43,437 if you take it personally, 27 00:01:43,437 --> 00:01:46,398 and you begin to doubt yourself. 28 00:01:46,398 --> 00:01:47,983 Everybody has a motivation. 29 00:01:49,401 --> 00:01:53,322 The motivation can be petty, it can be ideological, 30 00:01:53,322 --> 00:01:55,991 in my case it could be partisan. 31 00:01:55,991 --> 00:02:00,078 But that can't affect your core about who you are. 32 00:02:00,078 --> 00:02:01,913 - You being a a woman president, 33 00:02:03,081 --> 00:02:05,334 I've heard it before said about you, 34 00:02:05,334 --> 00:02:07,961 what if she makes decisions based on emotions. 35 00:02:07,961 --> 00:02:10,797 - A lot of people don't even think 36 00:02:10,797 --> 00:02:12,360 I have any emotions! 37 00:02:16,202 --> 00:02:17,709 I love that. 38 00:02:20,498 --> 00:02:21,581 Thank you. 39 00:02:23,310 --> 00:02:26,447 You people are here, even the lady from Alabama. 40 00:02:27,773 --> 00:02:29,316 - No kidding. - Love you girl. 41 00:02:29,316 --> 00:02:31,151 - How are you my dear. 42 00:02:32,694 --> 00:02:35,030 Ta da! - Look at our night. 43 00:02:35,030 --> 00:02:36,198 - How are you? 44 00:02:36,198 --> 00:02:38,533 - I am here, Amy was amazing. 45 00:02:38,533 --> 00:02:39,534 I don't know how many trips she made, 46 00:02:39,534 --> 00:02:41,536 she spoke at Democratic centers. 47 00:02:41,536 --> 00:02:44,122 These women, they were great to have around 48 00:02:44,122 --> 00:02:47,834 and they were people that I identified with. 49 00:02:48,752 --> 00:02:49,836 You know they got it. 50 00:02:52,506 --> 00:02:54,299 - You know we as women have a lot of things in common. 51 00:02:54,299 --> 00:02:57,469 There's always a message we get 52 00:02:57,469 --> 00:03:00,180 about we're too this or too that. 53 00:03:00,180 --> 00:03:03,850 Wait your turn, you smile too much you must not be serious, 54 00:03:03,850 --> 00:03:06,269 you don't smile enough you must not be friendly. 55 00:03:07,437 --> 00:03:09,356 You talk too much and you're too serious 56 00:03:09,356 --> 00:03:11,149 and you know I wouldn't want to have a beer with you, 57 00:03:11,149 --> 00:03:12,567 or I would want to have a beer with you 58 00:03:12,567 --> 00:03:16,655 but you can't run security for our country. 59 00:03:16,655 --> 00:03:20,534 Your hair, you know, Donald Trump's hair, 60 00:03:20,534 --> 00:03:22,160 what about that hair? 61 00:03:24,913 --> 00:03:28,041 - We would get all sorts of advice 62 00:03:28,041 --> 00:03:30,794 about how Hillary should be presenting herself. 63 00:03:30,794 --> 00:03:33,964 What she should wear, what her voice should sound like. 64 00:03:33,964 --> 00:03:36,466 The kind of words she should use. 65 00:03:36,466 --> 00:03:40,106 How she stands at a podium, how she modulates her voice. 66 00:03:40,106 --> 00:03:41,144 - Hey guys. 67 00:03:41,744 --> 00:03:42,764 - I will. 68 00:03:43,572 --> 00:03:44,808 - Thank you, thank you. 69 00:03:44,808 --> 00:03:46,643 - We like sat through presentations, 70 00:03:46,643 --> 00:03:48,979 we brought people in to meet with her. 71 00:03:48,979 --> 00:03:52,524 And I'd say if you could tell her, 72 00:03:52,524 --> 00:03:54,901 a woman on the world stage who does it perfectly 73 00:03:54,901 --> 00:03:57,195 then she could emulate that person. 74 00:03:58,113 --> 00:04:00,699 And no one ever had an answer. 75 00:04:00,699 --> 00:04:03,702 No one ever had an answer for who that woman is. 76 00:04:07,122 --> 00:04:08,957 - This is the moment, 77 00:04:08,957 --> 00:04:11,168 when folks talk about a revolution? 78 00:04:11,168 --> 00:04:12,669 The revolution is electing 79 00:04:12,669 --> 00:04:15,422 the first woman president of the United States. 80 00:04:19,593 --> 00:04:21,928 - One of the most interesting stories 81 00:04:21,928 --> 00:04:24,598 in the primary was this generational divide 82 00:04:24,598 --> 00:04:26,767 between young women and their mothers, 83 00:04:26,767 --> 00:04:28,685 and young women were supporting Bernie 84 00:04:28,685 --> 00:04:30,562 and their mothers were saying how could you do that, 85 00:04:30,562 --> 00:04:32,564 Hillary has to be the first woman president 86 00:04:32,564 --> 00:04:36,067 and young women just had no reflective gender allegiance. 87 00:04:36,067 --> 00:04:37,402 - Hey Marge how are you? 88 00:04:37,402 --> 00:04:41,782 - I saw you, I love you. 89 00:04:41,782 --> 00:04:44,409 Interestingly, the women who were excited about 90 00:04:44,409 --> 00:04:45,619 the first woman president 91 00:04:45,619 --> 00:04:47,579 were either much older or very young. 92 00:04:48,789 --> 00:04:50,749 - Little girls were so mad that there 93 00:04:50,749 --> 00:04:52,292 had not been a girl president. 94 00:04:52,292 --> 00:04:53,752 They would come in, 95 00:04:53,752 --> 00:04:55,545 they would come in with, there's like this place mat, 96 00:04:55,545 --> 00:04:57,214 that has all of the president's faces 97 00:04:57,214 --> 00:04:59,132 and they would bring their place mat to their Hillary event 98 00:04:59,132 --> 00:05:01,384 and they'd be like where is the girl president. 99 00:05:03,386 --> 00:05:05,222 Girls were really into her, 100 00:05:05,222 --> 00:05:07,808 they loved her and they had their little pant suits 101 00:05:07,808 --> 00:05:09,059 that they would wear. 102 00:05:09,059 --> 00:05:10,310 - They had to make a presentation. 103 00:05:10,310 --> 00:05:15,023 - My gosh Sammy that is so neat. 104 00:05:15,023 --> 00:05:16,483 I hope, did you get a good grade? 105 00:05:16,483 --> 00:05:17,317 - Yeah. 106 00:05:17,317 --> 00:05:18,151 - Good. 107 00:05:23,698 --> 00:05:26,535 The democratic race is just about over. 108 00:05:26,535 --> 00:05:29,371 Hillary Clinton has 92 percent of the delegates 109 00:05:29,371 --> 00:05:31,623 that she needs for the nomination. 110 00:05:33,708 --> 00:05:34,918 Hillary Clinton, 111 00:05:34,918 --> 00:05:36,127 last night when you took the stage, 112 00:05:36,127 --> 00:05:38,129 there was a woman standing next to me 113 00:05:38,129 --> 00:05:40,257 who was absolutely sobbing. 114 00:05:40,257 --> 00:05:43,677 She said you know, it's time, they get tears in their eyes. 115 00:05:43,677 --> 00:05:45,178 - Right. 116 00:05:45,178 --> 00:05:49,516 Do you feel the weight of what this means? 117 00:05:49,516 --> 00:05:51,268 - I do, I do. 118 00:05:51,268 --> 00:05:54,354 And it's really emotional, 119 00:05:54,354 --> 00:05:58,900 and I am someone who has been 120 00:05:58,900 --> 00:06:03,655 really encouraged by this extraordinary conviction 121 00:06:03,655 --> 00:06:06,199 that people have that's predominantly women and girls 122 00:06:06,199 --> 00:06:07,701 but not exclusively, 123 00:06:07,701 --> 00:06:09,369 men bring their daughters to meet me 124 00:06:09,369 --> 00:06:12,038 and tell me that they are supporting me 125 00:06:12,038 --> 00:06:13,498 because of their daughters. 126 00:06:13,498 --> 00:06:16,042 And I do think it will make a very big difference 127 00:06:16,042 --> 00:06:17,878 for a father or a mother 128 00:06:17,878 --> 00:06:19,296 to be able to look at their daughter 129 00:06:19,296 --> 00:06:21,298 just like they can look at their son. 130 00:06:21,298 --> 00:06:24,009 And say you can be anything you want to be in this country, 131 00:06:24,009 --> 00:06:26,052 including president of the United States. 132 00:06:29,472 --> 00:06:31,474 - Howard loves you. 133 00:06:31,474 --> 00:06:34,060 Howard loves you! 134 00:06:37,439 --> 00:06:39,524 - Thank you so much. 135 00:06:40,442 --> 00:06:41,860 - Take care now, goodbye. 136 00:06:41,860 --> 00:06:43,445 - Nice job. 137 00:06:44,362 --> 00:06:45,572 Democratic primary 138 00:06:45,572 --> 00:06:47,073 is drawing to a close tonight with-- 139 00:06:47,073 --> 00:06:48,700 California goes to Hillary Clinton. 140 00:06:48,700 --> 00:06:50,452 With victories in four primaries. 141 00:06:50,452 --> 00:06:52,037 New Mexico, South Dakota. 142 00:06:52,037 --> 00:06:55,457 - Tonight, Hillary Clinton burst at least part way through 143 00:06:55,457 --> 00:06:57,751 that glass ceiling she's always spoken about, 144 00:06:57,751 --> 00:07:00,003 becoming the first woman to clinch 145 00:07:00,003 --> 00:07:03,590 a major party's nomination for president in this country. 146 00:07:06,676 --> 00:07:09,846 - The first thing I did as I came in 147 00:07:09,846 --> 00:07:13,016 was sort of huddle with my team about the speech 148 00:07:13,016 --> 00:07:15,352 because it was a historic moment, 149 00:07:15,352 --> 00:07:17,771 and it had never happened before, 150 00:07:17,771 --> 00:07:19,981 and we wanted to capture that. 151 00:07:19,981 --> 00:07:23,318 That would mean these two here are ready to go. 152 00:07:23,318 --> 00:07:27,572 And I wanted to link it to the past 153 00:07:27,572 --> 00:07:30,075 and everything that people had sacrificed 154 00:07:30,075 --> 00:07:34,079 and worked toward which in many ways was culminating. 155 00:07:34,079 --> 00:07:36,790 I mean Shirley Chisholm was the first person 156 00:07:36,790 --> 00:07:39,876 on the Democratic side to run 157 00:07:39,876 --> 00:07:42,921 and I thought about you know, Gerri Ferraro, 158 00:07:42,921 --> 00:07:45,048 the first woman on a vice presidential ticket 159 00:07:45,048 --> 00:07:46,049 of a major party. 160 00:07:47,217 --> 00:07:48,968 I was just on the brink of tears, 161 00:07:48,968 --> 00:07:52,770 I thought wow, this is more than 162 00:07:52,770 --> 00:07:56,122 I could have ever imagined. 163 00:07:57,435 --> 00:08:01,272 Right as I was ready to go off, you know into the room, 164 00:08:01,272 --> 00:08:02,941 I remember Kumar grabbing me and saying, 165 00:08:02,941 --> 00:08:05,944 you know just take it all in, just take it all in. 166 00:08:05,944 --> 00:08:09,656 Hillary, Hillary, Hillary, Hillary. 167 00:08:58,371 --> 00:09:01,833 - Thanks to you, we've reached a milestone. 168 00:09:02,959 --> 00:09:05,962 The first time, 169 00:09:05,962 --> 00:09:08,339 the first time in our nation's history 170 00:09:09,549 --> 00:09:13,386 that a woman will be a major party's nominee 171 00:09:13,386 --> 00:09:16,056 for the president of the United States. 172 00:09:23,480 --> 00:09:24,689 I know then you had to pivot 173 00:09:24,689 --> 00:09:26,941 to campaigning against Donald Trump. 174 00:09:26,941 --> 00:09:28,193 - Right. - If you could just 175 00:09:28,193 --> 00:09:31,029 talk about that experience. - Right. 176 00:09:31,029 --> 00:09:37,535 Well he entered the campaign with such negative energy, 177 00:09:37,535 --> 00:09:38,745 so much vitriol. 178 00:09:40,121 --> 00:09:42,582 - I think the only card she has is the woman's card. 179 00:09:42,582 --> 00:09:44,084 She's got nothing else going, 180 00:09:44,084 --> 00:09:47,420 and frankly if Hillary Clinton were a man, 181 00:09:47,420 --> 00:09:49,756 I don't think she'd get five percent of the vote. 182 00:09:49,756 --> 00:09:52,675 The only thing she's got going is the woman's card 183 00:09:52,675 --> 00:09:55,595 and the beautiful thing is, women don't like her. 184 00:09:57,847 --> 00:10:01,351 - He clearly felt comfortable attacking women, 185 00:10:02,519 --> 00:10:04,395 relished in denigrating women. 186 00:10:05,897 --> 00:10:09,150 Then he's turning on me saying that I'm running as a woman 187 00:10:09,150 --> 00:10:11,319 or I'm using the fact that I'm a woman, 188 00:10:11,319 --> 00:10:13,655 and so we wanted to lean into it. 189 00:10:13,655 --> 00:10:15,573 I wanted to say yeah you're right, I am. 190 00:10:15,573 --> 00:10:17,117 We're ready. 191 00:10:17,117 --> 00:10:18,618 We've got to get her out before the culprits. 192 00:10:18,618 --> 00:10:19,619 Yeah. 193 00:10:19,619 --> 00:10:20,328 - We need to go guys. - Yup. 194 00:10:22,997 --> 00:10:24,165 - Now the other day, 195 00:10:24,999 --> 00:10:26,793 Mr Trump accused me, 196 00:10:26,793 --> 00:10:30,046 of playing the, quote, woman card. 197 00:10:30,046 --> 00:10:31,214 Boo. 198 00:10:33,091 --> 00:10:35,301 - Well if fighting for women's healthcare 199 00:10:35,301 --> 00:10:38,388 and paid family leave and equal pay 200 00:10:38,388 --> 00:10:42,314 is playing the woman card then deal me in! 201 00:10:45,728 --> 00:10:48,398 Donald Trump joins us now on the phone. 202 00:10:48,398 --> 00:10:50,525 Well I haven't quite recovered, 203 00:10:50,525 --> 00:10:53,361 it's early in the morning, from her shouting that message, 204 00:10:53,361 --> 00:10:57,031 the way she shouted that message was not ooh. 205 00:10:57,031 --> 00:10:59,033 - If you go back and look at some 206 00:10:59,033 --> 00:11:01,953 of Donald Trump's comments, 207 00:11:01,953 --> 00:11:06,708 she wouldn't even be allowed to run if she weren't a woman, 208 00:11:06,708 --> 00:11:10,628 you know, which is crazy given her experience and his. 209 00:11:10,628 --> 00:11:15,258 But nobody really blinked at those kinds of statements. 210 00:11:15,258 --> 00:11:20,263 - Hillary was a leader of the feminist revolution. 211 00:11:21,014 --> 00:11:22,348 People forget it. 212 00:11:22,348 --> 00:11:24,809 You know in the '90s there was an element 213 00:11:24,809 --> 00:11:27,937 of radicalism to her feminism. 214 00:11:29,814 --> 00:11:33,568 You know, she was too right too soon. 215 00:11:40,241 --> 00:11:41,743 at the White House, 216 00:11:41,743 --> 00:11:44,913 Hillary Clinton seems very much the traditional first lady, 217 00:11:44,913 --> 00:11:46,831 not the barnstorming brains 218 00:11:46,831 --> 00:11:48,917 behind national healthcare reform. 219 00:11:48,917 --> 00:11:51,461 - I want to welcome all of you to the White House. 220 00:11:52,545 --> 00:11:54,839 We, this year, chose the theme 221 00:11:54,839 --> 00:11:56,716 of the twelve days of Christmas. 222 00:11:56,716 --> 00:12:00,178 After the failure we had in universal health care, 223 00:12:00,178 --> 00:12:02,513 I felt terrible, I felt like okay, 224 00:12:02,513 --> 00:12:04,015 can't take on another project, 225 00:12:04,015 --> 00:12:07,310 I gotta figure out what I can do that makes sense. 226 00:12:07,310 --> 00:12:09,896 So I did regroup with my staff 227 00:12:09,896 --> 00:12:12,023 and we had a series of meetings that you know, 228 00:12:12,023 --> 00:12:15,777 were painful and tearful and difficult. 229 00:12:15,777 --> 00:12:18,613 - We all discussed kind of 230 00:12:18,613 --> 00:12:21,282 how are we going to go forward here. 231 00:12:21,282 --> 00:12:25,787 And we decided that you should go overseas. 232 00:12:25,787 --> 00:12:29,707 Pursue this passion you have on women's rights. 233 00:12:29,707 --> 00:12:31,584 - In other news the first lady's good will visit 234 00:12:31,584 --> 00:12:33,753 to South Asia has taken her to India, 235 00:12:33,753 --> 00:12:36,673 the second leg of a five nation South Asia tour 236 00:12:36,673 --> 00:12:39,425 for Hillary Rodham Clinton and her daughter Chelsea. 237 00:12:39,425 --> 00:12:40,969 - I thought "what a great 238 00:12:40,969 --> 00:12:42,595 experience it would be for Chelsea 239 00:12:42,595 --> 00:12:44,347 if she could go with me." 240 00:12:44,347 --> 00:12:46,099 I had never been to any of those places 241 00:12:46,099 --> 00:12:48,601 so it was all new to me. 242 00:12:48,601 --> 00:12:50,687 This is the first time a US first lady 243 00:12:50,687 --> 00:12:51,938 has visited this region 244 00:12:51,938 --> 00:12:54,941 since Jackie Kennedy visited in 1962. 245 00:12:54,941 --> 00:12:57,318 Mrs. Kennedy handed out lollipops to children 246 00:12:57,318 --> 00:12:59,237 and rode an elephant side saddle. 247 00:12:59,237 --> 00:13:02,115 Mrs Clinton is seen as more a woman of substance, 248 00:13:02,115 --> 00:13:03,658 campaigning for better education 249 00:13:03,658 --> 00:13:05,660 and healthcare for women and children. 250 00:13:08,913 --> 00:13:12,667 - I remember being in this remote part of India 251 00:13:12,667 --> 00:13:17,380 and women walked thirteen hours 252 00:13:17,380 --> 00:13:20,133 to see and meet with Hillary Clinton. 253 00:13:20,133 --> 00:13:22,135 - I agree with all of you 254 00:13:22,135 --> 00:13:25,930 that women no longer should be silent. 255 00:13:25,930 --> 00:13:27,223 Is this the one I worked on? 256 00:13:27,223 --> 00:13:28,433 - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 257 00:13:28,433 --> 00:13:29,976 We have to go guys get in. 258 00:13:29,976 --> 00:13:31,936 - I was alone on that trip. 259 00:13:31,936 --> 00:13:34,814 You know we had the first lady's press corps. 260 00:13:34,814 --> 00:13:39,027 And we land in Pakistan, 261 00:13:39,027 --> 00:13:41,696 and she went to a school for girls, 262 00:13:41,696 --> 00:13:43,156 and they wanted to be doctors 263 00:13:43,156 --> 00:13:44,615 and they wanted to be lawyers 264 00:13:44,615 --> 00:13:46,492 and they wanted to be teachers, 265 00:13:46,492 --> 00:13:49,203 just like any smart young women, 266 00:13:50,371 --> 00:13:52,373 but in a country that didn't allow that. 267 00:13:52,373 --> 00:13:54,375 - So you have two of your daughters 268 00:13:54,375 --> 00:13:56,836 who graduated already, from this school, 269 00:13:56,836 --> 00:14:00,673 but now they have no further opportunities. 270 00:14:00,673 --> 00:14:02,800 - I remember she was blown away by that. 271 00:14:04,469 --> 00:14:06,471 And it was something that, 272 00:14:06,471 --> 00:14:09,682 was very close to the core of her soul. 273 00:14:09,682 --> 00:14:11,184 First lady Hillary Rodham Clinton 274 00:14:11,184 --> 00:14:12,518 continues her twelve day tour 275 00:14:12,518 --> 00:14:15,480 of South Asia today with a stop in Bangladesh. 276 00:14:18,399 --> 00:14:19,358 What does it mean 277 00:14:19,358 --> 00:14:20,860 to have Mrs. Clinton come here? 278 00:14:21,819 --> 00:14:23,071 - Nobody came into this village. 279 00:14:23,071 --> 00:14:24,322 This is a part of the village 280 00:14:24,322 --> 00:14:25,865 that nobody will ever dare to come. 281 00:14:25,865 --> 00:14:28,242 Now comes the first lady of the world to visit us, 282 00:14:28,242 --> 00:14:29,410 the first lady of the world is coming here. 283 00:14:29,410 --> 00:14:31,412 So we are important. 284 00:14:31,412 --> 00:14:33,331 And now they're standing tall 285 00:14:33,331 --> 00:14:35,333 because all of the world is watching. 286 00:14:36,667 --> 00:14:38,878 Her international travel becomes a balm. 287 00:14:38,878 --> 00:14:41,798 Everywhere she goes, they greet her rapturously 288 00:14:41,798 --> 00:14:43,800 and it's healing I think, in some ways, 289 00:14:43,800 --> 00:14:45,885 for her because suddenly she's not being told 290 00:14:45,885 --> 00:14:50,056 she's a liberal shrew who is outside of her lane. 291 00:14:50,056 --> 00:14:54,310 - Hi, fancy meeting you all here. 292 00:14:54,310 --> 00:14:56,646 We had a great group of reporters with us, 293 00:14:56,646 --> 00:15:00,608 and they had a lot of interaction with her, 294 00:15:00,608 --> 00:15:02,735 you know saw her let her hair down. 295 00:15:02,735 --> 00:15:05,196 And a lot of them said to me on that trip, 296 00:15:05,196 --> 00:15:06,447 she should do more of this, I mean, 297 00:15:06,447 --> 00:15:08,449 people should see what we see. 298 00:15:08,449 --> 00:15:10,868 She was much different on this trip 299 00:15:10,868 --> 00:15:13,121 than I'd ever seen her before 300 00:15:13,121 --> 00:15:16,707 because the plane was off the record, 301 00:15:16,707 --> 00:15:19,168 we would get into all kinds of conversations 302 00:15:19,168 --> 00:15:20,419 and Chelsea was there, 303 00:15:20,419 --> 00:15:23,172 I got to see her be Chelsea's mom 304 00:15:23,172 --> 00:15:25,258 and she's a really great mom. 305 00:15:26,717 --> 00:15:30,596 - Certainly growing up I had seen out of personal attacks 306 00:15:30,596 --> 00:15:33,516 about my mom for her appearance, 307 00:15:33,516 --> 00:15:35,852 her working, her presumably also like 308 00:15:35,852 --> 00:15:37,103 not being a very good mother, 309 00:15:37,103 --> 00:15:38,688 like poor Chelsea she must like 310 00:15:38,688 --> 00:15:40,639 have no time with her mom, 311 00:15:40,639 --> 00:15:42,733 and I thankfully remember that being like 312 00:15:42,733 --> 00:15:43,901 just totally ludicrous 313 00:15:43,901 --> 00:15:46,612 like, to tell me anything about my mom 314 00:15:46,612 --> 00:15:53,077 who is this like super present, super warm like amazing mom. 315 00:15:53,077 --> 00:15:57,498 And from a very early age I just realized what people say 316 00:15:57,498 --> 00:15:59,417 or assert you know, 317 00:15:59,417 --> 00:16:03,129 maybe like not even remotely reflective 318 00:16:03,129 --> 00:16:04,589 or related to reality. 319 00:16:06,257 --> 00:16:10,052 - It was an amazing trip, and without knowing it, 320 00:16:10,052 --> 00:16:13,472 very serendipitous because when I was asked to speak 321 00:16:13,472 --> 00:16:15,808 at the Beijing women's conference, 322 00:16:15,808 --> 00:16:22,315 I had this very recent real world experience 323 00:16:22,315 --> 00:16:26,360 about what was facing women in places like South Asia. 324 00:16:28,279 --> 00:16:31,365 - So Hillary's invited by the secretary general 325 00:16:31,365 --> 00:16:33,117 of the United Nations, 326 00:16:33,117 --> 00:16:37,121 to speak to the fourth UN world conference on women. 327 00:16:37,121 --> 00:16:38,372 - You're honorary chair 328 00:16:38,372 --> 00:16:39,957 on the international conference on women, 329 00:16:39,957 --> 00:16:42,835 they've got a September meeting scheduled for Beijing. 330 00:16:42,835 --> 00:16:43,794 - - 331 00:16:43,794 --> 00:16:44,587 Will you go there? 332 00:16:44,587 --> 00:16:45,838 - I don't know yet. 333 00:16:45,838 --> 00:16:47,340 Well the White House did not want me to go. 334 00:16:47,340 --> 00:16:49,967 The State Department did not want me to go, 335 00:16:49,967 --> 00:16:53,512 because of China's human rights abuses. 336 00:16:53,512 --> 00:16:57,350 So there was almost a wall of opposition to my going. 337 00:16:57,350 --> 00:16:59,268 Conservative leaders are still unhappy 338 00:16:59,268 --> 00:17:02,021 with the whole idea of the United Nations conference. 339 00:17:02,021 --> 00:17:03,189 - There's no interest in Hillary Clinton 340 00:17:03,189 --> 00:17:04,690 going to this women's conference, 341 00:17:04,690 --> 00:17:05,983 it's not an important conference, 342 00:17:05,983 --> 00:17:07,485 I mean that's the great myth about this. 343 00:17:07,485 --> 00:17:09,570 I think she should not go for all the reasons, 344 00:17:09,570 --> 00:17:12,740 the awkwardness of her political and diplomatic position 345 00:17:12,740 --> 00:17:14,325 in this in this funny office, 346 00:17:14,325 --> 00:17:17,578 we keep saying first lady capital F and L as if it exists. 347 00:17:17,578 --> 00:17:20,164 And that's a fairly new invention of the American media. 348 00:17:20,164 --> 00:17:22,250 - No, no, no, 349 00:17:22,250 --> 00:17:23,501 come, come, come. - But Harry S Truman 350 00:17:23,501 --> 00:17:24,710 would never have sent Bess Truman to China. 351 00:17:24,710 --> 00:17:26,504 - Seriously. - But... 352 00:17:26,504 --> 00:17:28,464 - This does have a useful. - Eleanor Roosevelt 353 00:17:28,464 --> 00:17:29,382 would have gone. 354 00:17:29,382 --> 00:17:31,217 - It does, precisely. 355 00:17:31,217 --> 00:17:34,512 - At the same time we're working on her speech, 356 00:17:34,512 --> 00:17:37,473 and there's tremendous speculation about her speech, 357 00:17:37,473 --> 00:17:39,517 that speech was shown to no one. 358 00:17:40,643 --> 00:17:41,894 - It was a very small group of people 359 00:17:41,894 --> 00:17:44,313 who worked on it, really small. 360 00:17:44,313 --> 00:17:46,691 And we did not have it vetted 361 00:17:46,691 --> 00:17:48,859 until we were on our way there. 362 00:17:48,859 --> 00:17:50,778 I think that was important because otherwise 363 00:17:50,778 --> 00:17:52,029 it would have been diluted. 364 00:17:52,029 --> 00:17:53,864 And we were determined and she was determined, 365 00:17:53,864 --> 00:17:55,032 not to dilute it. 366 00:17:55,032 --> 00:17:56,409 - I said "I wanna push the envelope 367 00:17:56,409 --> 00:17:58,119 as far as we can push it." 368 00:17:58,119 --> 00:18:00,204 - First lady Hillary Rodham Clinton arrived 369 00:18:00,204 --> 00:18:03,124 in Beijing tonight for the largest UN gathering ever. 370 00:18:03,124 --> 00:18:05,334 The fourth world conference on women. 371 00:18:05,334 --> 00:18:07,920 She landed right in the middle of a controversy 372 00:18:07,920 --> 00:18:10,506 over stifling Chinese security measures 373 00:18:10,506 --> 00:18:13,759 and over demands that she speak out about human rights. 374 00:18:19,098 --> 00:18:20,850 - We worked and finalized a speech, 375 00:18:20,850 --> 00:18:24,270 didn't get much sleep at all. 376 00:18:24,270 --> 00:18:26,147 Did not know what to expect. 377 00:18:27,565 --> 00:18:31,152 Those of us who have the opportunity to be here 378 00:18:31,152 --> 00:18:35,615 have the responsibility to speak for those who could not. 379 00:18:35,615 --> 00:18:38,117 - And it starts out very slow. 380 00:18:38,117 --> 00:18:40,077 - Yet much of the work we do. 381 00:18:40,077 --> 00:18:41,245 - There was no response 382 00:18:41,245 --> 00:18:42,663 as Hillary started delivering it 383 00:18:42,663 --> 00:18:45,458 and Melanne and I suddenly panicked. 384 00:18:45,458 --> 00:18:48,377 - And we kind of look at each other thinking gosh. 385 00:18:48,377 --> 00:18:52,923 - Like we totally misjudged this, we misread this occasion, 386 00:18:52,923 --> 00:18:55,051 we are going to get her in big trouble. 387 00:18:55,051 --> 00:18:56,427 She's going to create an international, 388 00:18:56,427 --> 00:18:57,803 because nobody was reacting, 389 00:18:57,803 --> 00:18:59,138 they were all just sitting there stone faced. 390 00:18:59,138 --> 00:19:00,890 - Families flourish, communities-- 391 00:19:00,890 --> 00:19:03,726 This crowd was all listening to translations, 392 00:19:03,726 --> 00:19:06,437 so there was always a delay, 393 00:19:06,437 --> 00:19:08,773 they weren't reacting immediately 394 00:19:08,773 --> 00:19:11,108 and I kept waiting for it. 395 00:19:11,108 --> 00:19:12,860 Here in Beijing. 396 00:19:12,860 --> 00:19:15,946 - And she begins to go into this crescendo. 397 00:19:15,946 --> 00:19:17,698 - For too long, 398 00:19:17,698 --> 00:19:22,620 the history of women has been a history of silence. 399 00:19:22,620 --> 00:19:25,790 - And goes through a litany 400 00:19:25,790 --> 00:19:28,584 of what is happening to women around the world. 401 00:19:28,584 --> 00:19:32,755 - It is a violation of human rights 402 00:19:32,755 --> 00:19:35,174 when women are doused with gasoline, 403 00:19:35,174 --> 00:19:37,593 set on fire and burned to death 404 00:19:37,593 --> 00:19:41,097 because their marriage dowries are deemed too small. 405 00:19:41,097 --> 00:19:44,100 - Honor killings, dowry burnings, 406 00:19:44,100 --> 00:19:46,686 girls who have their life snuffed out. 407 00:19:46,686 --> 00:19:50,648 - Simply because they are born girls. 408 00:19:50,648 --> 00:19:55,152 - Domestic violence, rape as a tool of war, 409 00:19:55,152 --> 00:19:59,657 Human trafficking and as she's going through this, 410 00:19:59,657 --> 00:20:01,992 for each of them she's saying 411 00:20:01,992 --> 00:20:05,246 and this is a violation of human rights. 412 00:20:06,497 --> 00:20:08,916 And you could see the audience begin 413 00:20:08,916 --> 00:20:13,879 to come completely enveloped into her speech. 414 00:20:15,214 --> 00:20:18,342 - If there is one message that echoes forth 415 00:20:18,342 --> 00:20:20,302 from this conference, 416 00:20:20,302 --> 00:20:24,056 let it be that human rights are women's rights 417 00:20:24,056 --> 00:20:28,644 and women's rights are human rights once and for all. 418 00:20:34,775 --> 00:20:38,529 - She declared that women's rights are human rights. 419 00:20:38,529 --> 00:20:41,240 It redefined human rights around the world. 420 00:20:42,742 --> 00:20:44,785 - You know, I've traveled with her for many years after that 421 00:20:44,785 --> 00:20:48,372 and people would run up clutching copies of that speech, 422 00:20:48,372 --> 00:20:52,418 reciting that line from it, like it was the manifesto, 423 00:20:52,418 --> 00:20:55,921 a validation of so many tens of millions of women, 424 00:20:55,921 --> 00:20:57,506 hundreds of millions of women around the world 425 00:20:57,506 --> 00:21:00,593 who have nobody speaking for them, no one ever, 426 00:21:00,593 --> 00:21:01,844 had spoken for them. 427 00:21:01,844 --> 00:21:05,514 - The whole thing was just extraordinary. 428 00:21:05,514 --> 00:21:09,185 There's a picture of Hillary and Melanne Verveer and me 429 00:21:09,185 --> 00:21:11,270 on the plane going out, 430 00:21:11,270 --> 00:21:14,982 and I remember it was a women's moment. 431 00:21:21,113 --> 00:21:22,323 Ladies and gentlemen, 432 00:21:22,323 --> 00:21:23,741 the president of the United States, 433 00:21:23,741 --> 00:21:25,951 the First Lady and Chelsea Clinton. 434 00:21:37,379 --> 00:21:39,965 - Today the American people have spoken, 435 00:21:39,965 --> 00:21:42,968 they have told us to go forward. 436 00:21:42,968 --> 00:21:46,388 Today our economy is stronger, our streets are safer, 437 00:21:46,388 --> 00:21:47,765 the world is more secure 438 00:21:47,765 --> 00:21:50,935 and thank God our nation is more united. 439 00:21:53,395 --> 00:21:54,939 - By the time '96 came around, 440 00:21:54,939 --> 00:21:57,107 the economic plan was working, 441 00:21:57,107 --> 00:22:00,277 people saw it and the economy was booming. 442 00:22:00,277 --> 00:22:01,654 - The economic bill was the most important thing, 443 00:22:01,654 --> 00:22:03,614 it reversed trickle down economics, 444 00:22:03,614 --> 00:22:05,699 or what they called Reaganomics. 445 00:22:05,699 --> 00:22:11,441 Went back to arithmetic, invest and grow and be prudent, 446 00:22:11,441 --> 00:22:15,125 and it sparked the longest peace time recovery in history. 447 00:22:15,125 --> 00:22:17,920 - After the failure of the Clinton healthcare plan, 448 00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:21,257 Hillary spun immediately into getting healthcare 449 00:22:21,257 --> 00:22:22,925 for working class kids. 450 00:22:22,925 --> 00:22:25,094 The children's heath insurance program. 451 00:22:25,094 --> 00:22:26,929 - Senator Teddy Kennedy said to me, 452 00:22:26,929 --> 00:22:29,765 well I think I might be able to get Orrin Hatch, 453 00:22:29,765 --> 00:22:32,852 a Republican senator from Utah to work with us. 454 00:22:32,852 --> 00:22:34,436 We were able to get it through the Senate, 455 00:22:34,436 --> 00:22:37,982 get it through the House and pass the Chip program 456 00:22:37,982 --> 00:22:40,359 that literally provides health insurance for kids 457 00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:42,236 about ten million a year. 458 00:22:43,654 --> 00:22:45,573 We didn't get to universal healthcare coverage, 459 00:22:45,573 --> 00:22:48,909 but you know I think the debate we sometimes have, 460 00:22:48,909 --> 00:22:50,494 all or nothing is the wrong debate. 461 00:22:50,494 --> 00:22:53,914 How do we get something done in an environment 462 00:22:53,914 --> 00:22:55,416 that's very partisan, 463 00:22:55,416 --> 00:22:59,003 filled with powerful special interests and then keep going. 464 00:23:00,379 --> 00:23:03,048 - Serious crime has dropped five years in a row. 465 00:23:03,048 --> 00:23:06,719 The key has been community policing. 466 00:23:06,719 --> 00:23:08,554 We must finish the job 467 00:23:08,554 --> 00:23:11,390 of putting a hundred thousand community police 468 00:23:11,390 --> 00:23:14,310 on the streets of the United States. 469 00:23:14,310 --> 00:23:16,061 - Now Bill Clinton came back 470 00:23:16,061 --> 00:23:18,772 to where he should have been all along. 471 00:23:18,772 --> 00:23:21,775 And that was in the center of the spectrum. 472 00:23:21,775 --> 00:23:24,111 He was elected as a moderate. 473 00:23:24,111 --> 00:23:26,697 He was elected because the American people 474 00:23:26,697 --> 00:23:30,367 were very concerned about crime. 475 00:23:31,785 --> 00:23:35,539 Going back you know, the late 1980's early 1990's. 476 00:23:35,539 --> 00:23:38,208 We were having a crack epidemic at that point. 477 00:23:38,208 --> 00:23:40,336 Typical scenes in America's big cities. 478 00:23:40,336 --> 00:23:41,837 There's a tidal wave 479 00:23:41,837 --> 00:23:44,089 of juvenile violent crime right over the horizon. 480 00:23:46,175 --> 00:23:47,927 - The less we deal, 481 00:23:47,927 --> 00:23:50,262 with the ravages of crime and drug and violence, 482 00:23:50,262 --> 00:23:52,056 none of the other things we seek to do 483 00:23:52,056 --> 00:23:54,350 will ever take us where we need to go. 484 00:23:54,350 --> 00:23:56,685 - Crime was rampant, drugs were rampant, 485 00:23:56,685 --> 00:23:59,229 in particular in communities of color. 486 00:23:59,229 --> 00:24:00,940 The president was hearing from mayors, 487 00:24:00,940 --> 00:24:03,651 he was hearing from the congressional black caucus, 488 00:24:03,651 --> 00:24:06,070 and they were saying please do something. 489 00:24:06,070 --> 00:24:08,906 President Clinton signed a crime bill into law, 490 00:24:08,906 --> 00:24:11,575 30 billion dollars for more police, 491 00:24:11,575 --> 00:24:13,410 new prisons, harsher penalties. 492 00:24:13,410 --> 00:24:14,745 It includes President Clinton's 493 00:24:14,745 --> 00:24:17,122 three strikes and you're out provision. 494 00:24:17,122 --> 00:24:19,583 - It becomes critical to Bill Clinton 495 00:24:19,583 --> 00:24:24,546 to come up with a sort of centrist set of policies. 496 00:24:25,631 --> 00:24:27,633 And things like mandatory sentencing 497 00:24:27,633 --> 00:24:30,970 had strong support on both sides of the aisle. 498 00:24:30,970 --> 00:24:33,305 I think that people were not cognizant 499 00:24:33,305 --> 00:24:36,475 of the fact that you would essentially be filling up 500 00:24:36,475 --> 00:24:41,313 the country's prisons with a lot of non-violent offenders. 501 00:24:43,273 --> 00:24:48,631 - Were there parts of it that should have been revisited 502 00:24:48,631 --> 00:24:50,364 and that you know, had unintended consequences, 503 00:24:50,364 --> 00:24:52,616 absolutely there were. 504 00:24:52,616 --> 00:24:55,119 And I think Bill has said that and you know, 505 00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:58,706 people who were involved in it have basically said it. 506 00:24:58,706 --> 00:25:01,959 So there's criticism and I understand that. 507 00:25:01,959 --> 00:25:05,254 I also think that people were then 508 00:25:05,254 --> 00:25:10,092 taking out of context things that I said and did. 509 00:25:10,092 --> 00:25:12,845 We also have to have an organized effort against gangs. 510 00:25:12,845 --> 00:25:14,471 We need to take these people on, 511 00:25:14,471 --> 00:25:17,349 they are often connected to big drug cartels, 512 00:25:17,349 --> 00:25:19,810 they are not just gangs of kids anymore. 513 00:25:19,810 --> 00:25:21,812 They are often the kinds of kids 514 00:25:21,812 --> 00:25:25,649 that are called super predators, no conscience, no empathy, 515 00:25:25,649 --> 00:25:27,651 we can talk about why they ended up that way, 516 00:25:27,651 --> 00:25:29,695 but first we have to bring them to heal. 517 00:25:29,695 --> 00:25:32,573 - In the 1990's there was a lot of hysteria 518 00:25:32,573 --> 00:25:34,867 about the idea of super predators. 519 00:25:34,867 --> 00:25:39,747 It was on magazine covers and she was responding 520 00:25:39,747 --> 00:25:44,293 to what was being talked about at the time. 521 00:25:44,293 --> 00:25:48,380 Now, what may have seemed like a reasonable thing to say 522 00:25:48,380 --> 00:25:55,389 in the 90's in the light of 2016, did not look good. 523 00:25:55,389 --> 00:25:56,805 - I was talking about gang members. 524 00:25:56,805 --> 00:25:58,974 I was talking about vicious gang members, 525 00:25:58,974 --> 00:26:02,061 you don't hear me putting race on it at all. 526 00:26:03,228 --> 00:26:04,646 But did you have to then apologize 527 00:26:04,646 --> 00:26:06,523 during this election for that? 528 00:26:06,523 --> 00:26:08,776 - I don't remember, I mean I was always saying, 529 00:26:08,776 --> 00:26:10,069 trying to explain things 530 00:26:10,069 --> 00:26:13,703 that people didn't want to hear, so. 531 00:26:18,577 --> 00:26:21,205 - We are all in this together, 532 00:26:21,205 --> 00:26:23,540 as we Methodists like to say, 533 00:26:25,209 --> 00:26:28,545 do all the good you can to all the people you can 534 00:26:28,545 --> 00:26:31,882 in all the ways you can. 535 00:26:31,882 --> 00:26:33,175 How are you my friend? 536 00:26:33,175 --> 00:26:34,009 - I'm doing real good. 537 00:26:34,009 --> 00:26:35,260 - 538 00:26:35,260 --> 00:26:36,845 Please join me in welcoming 539 00:26:36,845 --> 00:26:40,099 congressman John Lewis and secretary Hillary Clinton 540 00:26:40,099 --> 00:26:42,935 as we at Clark Atlanta University, 541 00:26:42,935 --> 00:26:45,854 continue mobilizing for the future. 542 00:26:48,065 --> 00:26:51,819 - The leaders of the civil rights movement had it right. 543 00:26:51,819 --> 00:26:55,823 Using nonviolence, using the power-- 544 00:26:55,823 --> 00:26:57,324 - Black lives matter! 545 00:26:57,324 --> 00:26:58,784 - Yes they do! 546 00:27:01,015 --> 00:27:03,997 - Yes they do and I'm going to talk a lot about that. 547 00:27:07,459 --> 00:27:08,877 We need you. 548 00:27:08,877 --> 00:27:13,666 We need the promise of a rising generation of activists 549 00:27:13,666 --> 00:27:17,719 who are fearless in your advocacy and determination. 550 00:27:17,719 --> 00:27:20,430 Let her talk, let her talk, let her talk, 551 00:27:20,430 --> 00:27:23,892 let her talk, let her talk, let her talk. 552 00:27:28,689 --> 00:27:31,316 - I don't have any bad feelings at all 553 00:27:31,316 --> 00:27:33,652 about the Black Lives movement, 554 00:27:33,652 --> 00:27:35,362 about what they did and how they did it, 555 00:27:35,362 --> 00:27:38,615 and how they tried to express themselves. 556 00:27:38,615 --> 00:27:43,620 The cry to be heard, to be seen, was absolutely appropriate. 557 00:27:45,831 --> 00:27:50,794 The rash of killings of young unarmed black men 558 00:27:50,794 --> 00:27:55,257 was so outrageous and painful, 559 00:27:55,257 --> 00:27:58,093 and there needed to be a reaction to that. 560 00:27:59,511 --> 00:28:03,765 People are crying out for criminal justice reform. 561 00:28:03,765 --> 00:28:08,770 Families are being torn apart by excessive incarceration. 562 00:28:09,688 --> 00:28:11,315 Young people are being threatened 563 00:28:11,315 --> 00:28:15,319 and humiliated by racial profiling. 564 00:28:15,319 --> 00:28:20,324 They're trying to tell us we need to listen. 565 00:28:22,326 --> 00:28:25,996 I talked about it a lot, taking on some really tough issues, 566 00:28:25,996 --> 00:28:27,831 particularly around gun violence. 567 00:28:28,999 --> 00:28:32,294 But by the time we got to the general election, 568 00:28:32,294 --> 00:28:36,965 much to my surprise actually, it didn't matter, 569 00:28:36,965 --> 00:28:41,970 because I was running a kind of textbook campaign. 570 00:28:44,806 --> 00:28:47,309 Meanwhile, my Republican opponent 571 00:28:47,309 --> 00:28:49,186 was just ranting and raving 572 00:28:49,186 --> 00:28:52,773 and it just sucked up all the oxygen. 573 00:28:52,773 --> 00:28:55,359 - Hillary Clinton is a bigot 574 00:28:55,359 --> 00:28:59,446 who sees people of color 575 00:28:59,446 --> 00:29:02,783 only as votes not as human beings. 576 00:29:02,783 --> 00:29:05,410 - Trump is so out there, how do you deal with this, 577 00:29:05,410 --> 00:29:08,956 this is not a ordinary candidate. 578 00:29:08,956 --> 00:29:10,248 - Get 'em out, 579 00:29:10,248 --> 00:29:11,750 I'd like to punch him in the face, I'll tell you. 580 00:29:11,750 --> 00:29:14,252 There are so many things that are controversial 581 00:29:14,252 --> 00:29:16,236 and out of the norm. 582 00:29:16,236 --> 00:29:18,840 - Crooked Hillary Clinton, she's crooked folks, 583 00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:21,391 she's crooked as a three dollar bill. 584 00:29:21,391 --> 00:29:24,179 Now she's got bad temperament, she could be crazy, 585 00:29:24,179 --> 00:29:25,681 she could actually be crazy. 586 00:29:25,681 --> 00:29:29,393 - He's got a bullying style, and will say anything, 587 00:29:29,393 --> 00:29:32,270 and she is the candidate of control, 588 00:29:32,270 --> 00:29:35,565 a school yard rumble isn't exactly her, 589 00:29:35,565 --> 00:29:38,276 her normal, you know, venue is in her strength. 590 00:29:38,276 --> 00:29:40,320 - This was one of the biggest debates 591 00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:43,240 that I had with myself, and that I had with my campaign. 592 00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:46,910 What do you respond to, and what do you ignore. 593 00:29:46,910 --> 00:29:50,831 I mean I saw what happened to the other Republicans 594 00:29:50,831 --> 00:29:52,624 that were running against him. 595 00:29:52,624 --> 00:29:56,878 They tried all kinds of tactics, to respond, to out shame, 596 00:29:56,878 --> 00:30:00,257 to try to out-insult, none of it worked. 597 00:30:01,008 --> 00:30:05,554 - He seemed almost impervious to it. 598 00:30:05,554 --> 00:30:09,558 - Most of what Donald Trump does is the same thing 599 00:30:09,558 --> 00:30:11,727 why a dog licks his balls. 600 00:30:11,727 --> 00:30:13,812 Because he knows he can. 601 00:30:13,812 --> 00:30:18,108 - The problem with Trump was his utter ability 602 00:30:18,108 --> 00:30:19,901 to drive the news. 603 00:30:19,901 --> 00:30:22,863 Donald Trump effectively decided what was talked about 604 00:30:22,863 --> 00:30:24,364 in the news every day. 605 00:30:24,364 --> 00:30:27,701 - Russia, if you're listening, I hope you're able 606 00:30:27,701 --> 00:30:32,622 to find the 30,000 emails that are missing. 607 00:30:32,622 --> 00:30:34,249 - That was during our convention, 608 00:30:34,249 --> 00:30:35,917 so what do you think drove news that day. 609 00:30:35,917 --> 00:30:38,045 Our convention or Donald Trump telling Russia 610 00:30:38,045 --> 00:30:40,088 to hack Hillary Clinton about her emails. 611 00:30:41,923 --> 00:30:45,093 Someone like Hillary Clinton, 612 00:30:45,093 --> 00:30:48,180 she can't compete theatrically with that, she just can't. 613 00:30:49,264 --> 00:30:53,518 - Hillary Clinton always has been and was 614 00:30:53,518 --> 00:30:57,530 throughout the campaign, deeply suspicious of the press. 615 00:30:57,530 --> 00:30:59,377 - Thank you everybody. 616 00:30:59,377 --> 00:31:02,736 Trump exists because of the press. 617 00:31:03,945 --> 00:31:05,906 - Hillary at that point said I think 618 00:31:05,906 --> 00:31:07,574 this is going to come down to debates. 619 00:31:07,574 --> 00:31:09,576 Those three debates are going to be the ball game. 620 00:31:09,576 --> 00:31:14,289 - I thought they were gonna be determinative. 621 00:31:14,289 --> 00:31:19,734 I thought that the contrast between me and Trump 622 00:31:19,734 --> 00:31:23,131 would swing a lot of votes, that's what I thought. 623 00:31:23,131 --> 00:31:27,886 - We were only a couple points ahead and the expectations 624 00:31:27,886 --> 00:31:31,932 for him were so low that if he had come close 625 00:31:31,932 --> 00:31:34,309 to beating her, the race could flip 626 00:31:34,309 --> 00:31:36,394 and he could take the lead. 627 00:31:36,394 --> 00:31:38,855 - He had learned already in the campaign, 628 00:31:38,855 --> 00:31:41,274 he wasn't gonna be held accountable, 629 00:31:41,274 --> 00:31:44,152 nobody was gonna held, hold him accountable except for me, 630 00:31:44,152 --> 00:31:45,695 I was going to be the one who was going to have to try. 631 00:31:45,695 --> 00:31:48,115 So how does he figure that out? 632 00:31:48,115 --> 00:31:48,949 - Haha. 633 00:31:53,286 --> 00:31:54,788 - Do you want one? 634 00:31:54,788 --> 00:31:57,290 - Yeah thanks Donald, that's really nice of you. 635 00:31:57,290 --> 00:31:59,126 - I had the honor and the misfortune 636 00:31:59,126 --> 00:32:01,253 of playing Donald Trump in her debate prep. 637 00:32:01,253 --> 00:32:04,131 - Philippe immersed himself in acting like, 638 00:32:04,131 --> 00:32:06,758 looking like, talking like Donald Trump. 639 00:32:06,758 --> 00:32:10,846 - He would be unafraid to push back at me, 640 00:32:10,846 --> 00:32:14,516 to say and do things that were really 641 00:32:14,516 --> 00:32:16,017 offensive and annoying. 642 00:32:16,017 --> 00:32:18,770 - Are you gonna share your 33,000 emails. 643 00:32:18,770 --> 00:32:21,481 - I made a mistake in using a private email, 644 00:32:21,481 --> 00:32:22,357 I've said this before. 645 00:32:22,357 --> 00:32:23,776 - Breaking news. 646 00:32:26,236 --> 00:32:27,904 - The other thing we really wanted 647 00:32:27,904 --> 00:32:30,824 to accomplish was to trigger him. 648 00:32:30,824 --> 00:32:32,993 You know we knew he was a narcissist, 649 00:32:32,993 --> 00:32:37,247 and so if we could get him flying off the handle, 650 00:32:37,247 --> 00:32:38,915 that would show who he really is, 651 00:32:38,915 --> 00:32:40,917 that would show his temperament. 652 00:32:48,261 --> 00:32:50,907 - Just over the next segment. 653 00:32:53,054 --> 00:32:55,515 - You go to her website, and you take a look at her website, 654 00:32:55,515 --> 00:32:58,977 she's gonna raise taxes $1.3 trillion, 655 00:32:58,977 --> 00:33:01,188 and look at her website, you know what 656 00:33:01,188 --> 00:33:04,357 she's telling us how to fight ISIS, 657 00:33:04,357 --> 00:33:06,902 just go to her website, she tells you how to fight ISIS 658 00:33:06,902 --> 00:33:09,571 on her website, I don't think General Douglas MacArthur 659 00:33:09,571 --> 00:33:11,072 would like that too much. 660 00:33:11,072 --> 00:33:13,200 - All right the next, the next segment will continue. 661 00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:15,368 - Well at least I have a plan to fight ISIS. 662 00:33:15,368 --> 00:33:17,621 No, no you're telling the enemy 663 00:33:17,621 --> 00:33:19,039 everything you want to do. 664 00:33:19,039 --> 00:33:21,458 - Well Donald I know you live in your own reality 665 00:33:21,458 --> 00:33:24,419 but that is not the fact. 666 00:33:24,419 --> 00:33:28,548 - You know to take on this bully, this nasty bully 667 00:33:28,548 --> 00:33:32,761 and to stand up to him, he really was disoriented, 668 00:33:32,761 --> 00:33:34,262 it was great. 669 00:33:34,262 --> 00:33:38,183 - This is a man who has called women pigs, slobs, and dogs. 670 00:33:38,183 --> 00:33:41,603 One of the worst things he said was about a woman 671 00:33:41,603 --> 00:33:44,898 in a beauty contest, he loves beauty contests, 672 00:33:44,898 --> 00:33:47,484 supporting them and hanging around them. 673 00:33:47,484 --> 00:33:51,613 And he called this woman Miss Piggy, 674 00:33:51,613 --> 00:33:53,281 then he called her 675 00:33:53,281 --> 00:33:56,243 Miss Housekeeping because she was Latina. 676 00:33:56,243 --> 00:33:57,244 Donald she has a name. 677 00:33:57,244 --> 00:33:58,662 - Where did you find this? 678 00:33:58,662 --> 00:34:00,288 - Her name is Alicia Machado-- - Where did you find this? 679 00:34:00,288 --> 00:34:03,124 - And she has become a US citizen 680 00:34:03,124 --> 00:34:06,211 and you can bet she's going to vote this November. 681 00:34:06,211 --> 00:34:07,128 - Really? Okay, okay good. 682 00:34:07,128 --> 00:34:08,463 Let me just tell you. 683 00:34:24,813 --> 00:34:26,606 I was looking to get. 684 00:34:27,774 --> 00:34:29,109 - I'm proud of you, I'm proud of you. 685 00:34:29,109 --> 00:34:31,653 - I saw you smiling and I saw your dad 686 00:34:31,653 --> 00:34:34,656 sometimes leaning forward and putting his head in his hand. 687 00:34:34,656 --> 00:34:35,865 God, I'm proud of you. 688 00:34:35,865 --> 00:34:37,701 - I just kept smiling, I just kept smiling, 689 00:34:37,701 --> 00:34:40,161 you were so good. - That was great. 690 00:34:40,161 --> 00:34:42,622 - She went into that first debate prepared 691 00:34:42,622 --> 00:34:46,001 to make Donald Trump look inexperienced. 692 00:34:46,001 --> 00:34:49,254 - They had this idea that if they could get him 693 00:34:49,254 --> 00:34:53,967 to be inappropriate or say inappropriate things, 694 00:34:53,967 --> 00:34:58,972 to to act out, that it would hurt his candidacy. 695 00:35:00,098 --> 00:35:02,743 But that's what he was selling. 696 00:35:02,743 --> 00:35:05,145 - Mr. Trump how do you think you did tonight. 697 00:35:05,145 --> 00:35:07,897 - I thought it was great, I mean I got everything I wanted 698 00:35:07,897 --> 00:35:11,067 to say I got it out, other than the transgressions of Bill, 699 00:35:11,067 --> 00:35:13,069 I didn't want to say what I was going to say 700 00:35:13,069 --> 00:35:14,654 with Chelsea in the room. 701 00:35:14,654 --> 00:35:18,533 She's married to a man who was the worst abuser of women 702 00:35:18,533 --> 00:35:20,368 in the history of politics. 703 00:35:20,368 --> 00:35:24,831 She's married to a man who hurt many women, 704 00:35:24,831 --> 00:35:27,375 and Hillary, Hillary was an enabler, 705 00:35:27,375 --> 00:35:30,074 so just remember that folks. 706 00:35:39,179 --> 00:35:41,306 - Sunday morning I get a call from my editor 707 00:35:41,306 --> 00:35:45,852 and she says there's this crazy story out there 708 00:35:45,852 --> 00:35:49,064 about President Clinton and an intern 709 00:35:49,064 --> 00:35:50,106 and we need you to chase it. 710 00:35:50,106 --> 00:35:51,191 I'm like,. 711 00:35:53,568 --> 00:35:57,530 How on earth am I going to ever write a story, you just, 712 00:35:57,530 --> 00:36:01,534 this is a dog assignment because 713 00:36:01,534 --> 00:36:03,036 how can we ever prove something like that. 714 00:36:03,036 --> 00:36:06,790 At that time, we didn't write stories like that, 715 00:36:06,790 --> 00:36:09,501 it wasn't what the mainstream press did. 716 00:36:10,835 --> 00:36:12,921 Paula Jones filed a lawsuit she says 717 00:36:12,921 --> 00:36:15,507 the governor of Arkansas made a pass at her. 718 00:36:15,507 --> 00:36:18,343 - It's just humiliating what he did to me. 719 00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:21,221 - A judge had ordered the president of the United States 720 00:36:21,221 --> 00:36:24,683 to give testimony in response to Paula Jones' allegations. 721 00:36:26,059 --> 00:36:28,353 I was a junior guy on the beat and nobody wanted 722 00:36:28,353 --> 00:36:29,688 to touch the Paula Jones story. 723 00:36:29,688 --> 00:36:32,816 It just seemed icky and and not going anywhere. 724 00:36:33,942 --> 00:36:34,609 Good morning Mr. President. 725 00:36:34,609 --> 00:36:35,568 - Good morning. 726 00:36:35,568 --> 00:36:36,653 My name is Jim Fisher... 727 00:36:36,653 --> 00:36:38,222 - What we learned later is 728 00:36:38,222 --> 00:36:40,490 the president is asked during his deposition 729 00:36:40,490 --> 00:36:41,908 about a young woman at the White House 730 00:36:41,908 --> 00:36:43,118 named Monica Lewinsky. 731 00:36:44,327 --> 00:36:47,247 At any time were you and Monica Lewinsky 732 00:36:47,247 --> 00:36:49,582 together alone in the Oval Office. 733 00:36:53,586 --> 00:36:57,298 - I don't recall but as I said when she worked 734 00:36:57,298 --> 00:36:59,467 at the legislative affairs office, 735 00:36:59,467 --> 00:37:03,638 they always had somebody there on the weekends, 736 00:37:03,638 --> 00:37:06,099 I typically work some on the weekends, 737 00:37:06,099 --> 00:37:07,976 sometimes they bring me things on the weekends, 738 00:37:07,976 --> 00:37:09,811 she, it seems to me she brought things 739 00:37:09,811 --> 00:37:11,604 to me once or twice on the weekends. 740 00:37:13,022 --> 00:37:15,859 Did it ever happen that you and she went 741 00:37:15,859 --> 00:37:18,027 down the hallway from the Oval Office 742 00:37:18,027 --> 00:37:19,320 to the private kitchen. 743 00:37:20,530 --> 00:37:23,116 Your honor, excuse me Mr. President, 744 00:37:23,116 --> 00:37:25,869 I need some guidance from the court at this time-- 745 00:37:25,869 --> 00:37:27,662 - Now Clinton knew he was going to be asked about her 746 00:37:27,662 --> 00:37:30,957 because her name had been on the list the lawyers submitted. 747 00:37:30,957 --> 00:37:33,626 But what he wasn't expecting was they would ask him 748 00:37:33,626 --> 00:37:35,754 so many very specific questions 749 00:37:35,754 --> 00:37:37,464 about his relationship with Monica Lewinsky. 750 00:37:37,464 --> 00:37:40,633 Have you ever given any gifts to Monica Lewinsky. 751 00:37:40,633 --> 00:37:42,594 They clearly knew something and he didn't know 752 00:37:42,594 --> 00:37:44,345 how they knew it, they knew about gifts 753 00:37:44,345 --> 00:37:45,513 that he had given her-- 754 00:37:45,513 --> 00:37:47,140 - I don't recall, do you know what they were? 755 00:37:47,140 --> 00:37:48,641 A hat pin. 756 00:37:50,935 --> 00:37:52,604 - I don't, I don't remember. 757 00:37:52,604 --> 00:37:55,023 Did you have a extramarital sexual affair 758 00:37:55,023 --> 00:37:56,065 with Monica Lewinsky? 759 00:37:56,065 --> 00:37:56,900 - No. 760 00:38:00,195 --> 00:38:03,490 If she told someone that she had a sexual affair 761 00:38:03,490 --> 00:38:08,328 with you beginning in November of 1995, would that be a lie? 762 00:38:08,328 --> 00:38:10,830 - It's certainly not the truth. 763 00:38:10,830 --> 00:38:12,415 It would not be the truth. 764 00:38:12,415 --> 00:38:15,043 - And what we learned was that Ken Starr was looking 765 00:38:15,043 --> 00:38:17,962 into it, that the independent counsel was looking 766 00:38:17,962 --> 00:38:21,800 into whether President Clinton had lied under oath, 767 00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:24,636 had tampered with witnesses, had obstructed justice 768 00:38:24,636 --> 00:38:27,305 by trying to cover up his affair with Monica Lewinsky 769 00:38:27,305 --> 00:38:29,641 in the Paula Jones civil lawsuit. 770 00:38:31,726 --> 00:38:33,478 And I remember sitting in our national editor's office 771 00:38:33,478 --> 00:38:35,855 and there's a whole scrum of us, 772 00:38:35,855 --> 00:38:38,691 there's no question in our mind to publish the story. 773 00:38:38,691 --> 00:38:40,693 But I remember walking home that night around two 774 00:38:40,693 --> 00:38:46,098 in the morning just thinking my god, you know 775 00:38:46,098 --> 00:38:49,369 what's going to come now, what have we unleashed here. 776 00:38:49,369 --> 00:38:52,038 And sure enough five in the morning, 777 00:38:52,038 --> 00:38:54,040 the whole thing just blew up. 778 00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:55,291 Allegations of sex 779 00:38:55,291 --> 00:38:57,335 in the White House, taped conversations. 780 00:38:57,335 --> 00:38:58,920 An amazing day in Washington. 781 00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:00,213 A sexual affair with a-. 782 00:39:00,213 --> 00:39:02,215 White House intern Monica Lewinsky. 783 00:39:02,215 --> 00:39:03,675 Mr. President's special behavior. 784 00:39:03,675 --> 00:39:06,409 The keyword there is if the allegations are true. 785 00:39:08,096 --> 00:39:10,014 - Bill came early one morning into the bedroom, 786 00:39:10,014 --> 00:39:14,269 I was not up yet and he sat on the side of the bed 787 00:39:14,269 --> 00:39:15,770 and he said I have to tell you something, 788 00:39:15,770 --> 00:39:18,064 there's a story that's gonna be in the newspaper. 789 00:39:19,232 --> 00:39:23,903 That, it's about an intern who worked 790 00:39:23,903 --> 00:39:25,572 in the White House and claiming 791 00:39:25,572 --> 00:39:28,241 that I had a relationship with her. 792 00:39:28,241 --> 00:39:31,077 You know I was just like waking up, I didn't, 793 00:39:31,077 --> 00:39:33,246 I was like having a hard time processing it, and I said 794 00:39:33,246 --> 00:39:35,498 what are you talking about, what, what, what is this, 795 00:39:35,498 --> 00:39:37,333 what do you mean? 796 00:39:37,333 --> 00:39:39,627 He said well there's nothing to it, it's not true, 797 00:39:39,627 --> 00:39:42,130 you know I may have been you know too nice to her, 798 00:39:42,130 --> 00:39:45,633 I may have you know paid her you know, too much attention 799 00:39:45,633 --> 00:39:48,928 but there there was nothing, and he was adamant, 800 00:39:48,928 --> 00:39:52,029 and he was convincing to me. 801 00:39:52,932 --> 00:39:57,896 - I did not have sexual relations with that woman. 802 00:39:57,896 --> 00:39:59,355 Miss Lewinsky. 803 00:39:59,355 --> 00:40:03,526 - He publicly denied it, and privately denied it to Hillary, 804 00:40:03,526 --> 00:40:07,113 to me, to everybody else. 805 00:40:07,113 --> 00:40:09,699 Face to face, eye to eye. 806 00:40:09,699 --> 00:40:11,159 - And he said just don't quit on me, 807 00:40:11,159 --> 00:40:13,457 I'm telling you it's not true, don't quit on me. 808 00:40:13,457 --> 00:40:16,040 And I said okay. Yes sir. 809 00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:19,000 And walked out, that was a 10 second conversation. 810 00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:23,963 - You've got a White House in total paralysis. 811 00:40:25,340 --> 00:40:28,468 At the same time, Hillary had made a commitment 812 00:40:28,468 --> 00:40:30,178 to being on the today show. 813 00:40:30,178 --> 00:40:31,429 - And good morning-- 814 00:40:31,429 --> 00:40:33,973 And she didn't want to cancel. 815 00:40:33,973 --> 00:40:36,267 - The last time we visited a subject like this 816 00:40:36,267 --> 00:40:38,519 involving your family was 1992. 817 00:40:38,519 --> 00:40:40,563 And the name Jennifer Flowers was in the news 818 00:40:40,563 --> 00:40:43,316 and your husband admitted that he had quote caused pain 819 00:40:43,316 --> 00:40:44,567 in your marriage. 820 00:40:44,567 --> 00:40:46,986 If he were to be asked today Mrs. Clinton, 821 00:40:46,986 --> 00:40:48,237 do you think that he would admit 822 00:40:48,237 --> 00:40:49,989 that he has again caused pain in this marriage. 823 00:40:49,989 --> 00:40:52,075 - No, absolutely not. 824 00:40:52,075 --> 00:40:53,576 And he shouldn't. 825 00:40:53,576 --> 00:40:56,079 You know we've been married for 22 years Matt, 826 00:40:56,079 --> 00:40:59,749 and I have learned a long time ago that the only people 827 00:40:59,749 --> 00:41:02,794 who count in any marriage are the two that are in it. 828 00:41:02,794 --> 00:41:04,295 - Now this is in a way shades 829 00:41:04,295 --> 00:41:07,048 of the 60 minutes interview right, she's saving him again. 830 00:41:07,048 --> 00:41:09,300 It's her validation that allows him to keep going, 831 00:41:09,300 --> 00:41:11,469 because otherwise the pressure for resignation 832 00:41:11,469 --> 00:41:14,639 was already rising, the anger within the Democratic party 833 00:41:14,639 --> 00:41:16,975 not just the Republican party was enormous. 834 00:41:16,975 --> 00:41:19,519 - You know the president has denied these allegations 835 00:41:19,519 --> 00:41:24,440 on all counts, unequivocally, and we'll-- we'll see 836 00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:26,901 how this plays out, you know I guess everybody says to me 837 00:41:26,901 --> 00:41:28,945 how can you be so calm, or how can you 838 00:41:28,945 --> 00:41:31,406 just you know look like you're not upset 839 00:41:31,406 --> 00:41:33,783 and I guess I've just been through it so many times. 840 00:41:33,783 --> 00:41:36,619 I mean Bill and I have been accused of everything, 841 00:41:36,619 --> 00:41:39,539 including murder by some of the very same people 842 00:41:39,539 --> 00:41:41,290 who are behind these allegations. 843 00:41:41,290 --> 00:41:44,335 That's what I believed, I believed it was part 844 00:41:44,335 --> 00:41:48,214 of the whole Starr investigation 845 00:41:48,214 --> 00:41:53,094 and I was absolutely persuaded because of my own experience, 846 00:41:53,094 --> 00:41:55,930 not what anybody else went through but I went through 847 00:41:55,930 --> 00:41:57,682 that this guy would make up stuff. 848 00:41:57,682 --> 00:41:59,267 If they could make up something, 849 00:41:59,267 --> 00:42:02,937 if they could lie about something they were so partisan 850 00:42:02,937 --> 00:42:04,439 that they would do it. 851 00:42:04,439 --> 00:42:05,732 - You have said I understand to some close friends 852 00:42:05,732 --> 00:42:07,567 that this was the last great battle, 853 00:42:07,567 --> 00:42:11,320 and that one side or the other is going down here. 854 00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:15,408 - This is, the great story here for anybody willing 855 00:42:15,408 --> 00:42:18,161 to find it and write about it and explain it 856 00:42:18,161 --> 00:42:20,538 is this vast right wing conspiracy 857 00:42:20,538 --> 00:42:23,249 that has been conspiring against my husband 858 00:42:23,249 --> 00:42:25,209 since the day he announced for president. 859 00:42:26,586 --> 00:42:28,421 Facing the cameras for the first time 860 00:42:28,421 --> 00:42:30,882 since he began an investigation of the alleged affair 861 00:42:30,882 --> 00:42:34,135 and cover-up, prosecutor Kenneth Starr's dismissed charges 862 00:42:34,135 --> 00:42:35,553 he is out to hurt the president. 863 00:42:35,553 --> 00:42:39,390 - I have a very strong belief in facts and in truth, 864 00:42:39,390 --> 00:42:40,975 and that the facts will come out 865 00:42:40,975 --> 00:42:42,977 and the truth will come out, eventually. 866 00:42:45,063 --> 00:42:48,775 - I believed Lewinsky. 867 00:42:48,775 --> 00:42:51,810 From the beginning and I think all of us did. 868 00:42:53,696 --> 00:42:56,509 Not that we had inside information, but that 869 00:42:56,509 --> 00:43:01,704 it just didn't seem far from the person that we knew. 870 00:43:01,704 --> 00:43:06,250 And I hugged her and wanted very much to comfort her, 871 00:43:06,250 --> 00:43:09,337 but it would be like a mask would come over her 872 00:43:09,337 --> 00:43:11,005 in those days. 873 00:43:11,005 --> 00:43:13,341 That was in between the disclosure, 874 00:43:13,341 --> 00:43:14,342 the public disclosure 875 00:43:14,342 --> 00:43:16,803 and the time that he admitted that it was true. 876 00:43:16,803 --> 00:43:19,263 Monica I love you. -Monica! 877 00:43:20,264 --> 00:43:22,600 - So Monica was my intern. 878 00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:26,104 She um, 879 00:43:26,104 --> 00:43:28,648 she was this was when I worked for the White House 880 00:43:28,648 --> 00:43:33,194 Chief of Staff, she did a really good job, very diligent, 881 00:43:33,194 --> 00:43:37,218 easy to work with pleasant, nice, smart. 882 00:43:37,218 --> 00:43:40,535 - Day 13 of the federal budget crisis and the shutdown 883 00:43:40,535 --> 00:43:43,246 that's brought parts of the government to a dead stop. 884 00:43:44,163 --> 00:43:46,082 - Today as of noon, almost half 885 00:43:46,082 --> 00:43:49,460 of the federal government employees are idle. 886 00:43:49,460 --> 00:43:51,546 - During the government shutdown, 887 00:43:51,546 --> 00:43:54,549 we set a very skeleton staff, but we were allowed 888 00:43:54,549 --> 00:43:56,968 to use interns, so I asked her if she would come over 889 00:43:56,968 --> 00:43:58,886 and you know answer phones and just help me 890 00:43:58,886 --> 00:44:01,389 around the chief of staff's office. 891 00:44:01,389 --> 00:44:03,724 I think that maybe she had had seen the President 892 00:44:03,724 --> 00:44:06,394 a few times before at events or something, but she met him, 893 00:44:06,394 --> 00:44:08,688 he came down, it was my birthday. 894 00:44:09,939 --> 00:44:13,192 And he came down to cut my birthday cake 895 00:44:13,192 --> 00:44:15,403 and that was when she met him. 896 00:44:16,904 --> 00:44:20,575 It was a very unusual time, you know normally 897 00:44:20,575 --> 00:44:23,786 you don't see the president very often, so in that way 898 00:44:23,786 --> 00:44:26,789 it was unusual to have that kind of interaction. 899 00:44:26,789 --> 00:44:29,083 After a few days Evelyn Lieberman 900 00:44:29,083 --> 00:44:31,085 who was the deputy Chief of Staff at the time 901 00:44:31,085 --> 00:44:34,422 pulled me aside and said I think you should tell your intern 902 00:44:34,422 --> 00:44:36,174 that she can go home for the day. 903 00:44:36,174 --> 00:44:39,510 And I was like, I think, she's like no, 904 00:44:39,510 --> 00:44:40,428 I think you should do that. 905 00:44:40,428 --> 00:44:44,932 And so, so I told Monica, 906 00:44:44,932 --> 00:44:48,186 you know look it's Saturday, you know it's a beautiful day, 907 00:44:48,186 --> 00:44:50,229 you don't need to be here, and she fought me a little 908 00:44:50,229 --> 00:44:52,565 but she eventually left. 909 00:44:54,567 --> 00:44:58,738 But you know, I didn't think anything of it 910 00:44:58,738 --> 00:44:59,947 because of course who would think 911 00:44:59,947 --> 00:45:02,158 that Bill Clinton could be that stupid, right. 912 00:45:03,659 --> 00:45:05,661 - Bill Clinton, the first president ever subpoenaed 913 00:45:05,661 --> 00:45:08,164 to testify before a federal grand jury 914 00:45:08,164 --> 00:45:10,458 in office will do so tomorrow. 915 00:45:10,458 --> 00:45:13,127 He may in the process become the first leader 916 00:45:13,127 --> 00:45:15,129 in the history of this republic to admit 917 00:45:15,129 --> 00:45:17,924 to an elicit relationship with a young coworker 918 00:45:17,924 --> 00:45:19,425 while in office. 919 00:45:19,425 --> 00:45:22,261 - When the president finally comes around to concluding 920 00:45:22,261 --> 00:45:24,138 that he has to tell the grand jury 921 00:45:24,138 --> 00:45:26,599 that there had been a relationship, 922 00:45:26,599 --> 00:45:29,644 he goes to his wife, and fesses up. 923 00:45:31,812 --> 00:45:36,025 - I went and sat on the bed and talked to her. 924 00:45:36,025 --> 00:45:42,448 I told her exactly what happened, when it happened, 925 00:45:42,448 --> 00:45:44,617 I said I feel terrible about it, I said you know we've been 926 00:45:44,617 --> 00:45:46,369 through quite a bit in the last few years, I told her 927 00:45:46,369 --> 00:45:49,038 I have no defense, this is inexcusable what I did. 928 00:45:51,624 --> 00:45:58,172 - I was just devastated, I could not believe it. 929 00:45:58,172 --> 00:46:05,526 I was so you know, personally just hurt, 930 00:46:05,526 --> 00:46:08,683 and you know, I can't believe this, 931 00:46:08,683 --> 00:46:11,644 I can't believe you lied, 932 00:46:11,644 --> 00:46:17,233 you know it just anyway was horrible. 933 00:46:17,233 --> 00:46:20,861 And I said if this is gonna be public, 934 00:46:20,861 --> 00:46:23,072 you have got to go tell Chelsea. 935 00:46:23,072 --> 00:46:26,325 - She said well you have to go tell your daughter, 936 00:46:26,325 --> 00:46:30,037 she said that's worse than me. 937 00:46:30,037 --> 00:46:33,541 And so I did that. 938 00:46:33,541 --> 00:46:38,526 Which was awful. 939 00:46:38,526 --> 00:46:45,469 Justifiably, what I did was wrong. 940 00:46:45,469 --> 00:46:47,471 I just hated to hurt her. 941 00:46:54,061 --> 00:46:59,025 But you know, we all bring our baggage to life 942 00:46:59,025 --> 00:47:03,446 and sometimes we do things you shouldn't do, 943 00:47:03,446 --> 00:47:07,848 and it was awful what I did. 944 00:47:07,848 --> 00:47:09,577 Five seconds. 945 00:47:15,958 --> 00:47:17,918 - Good evening. 946 00:47:17,918 --> 00:47:21,088 This afternoon in this room, from this chair, 947 00:47:21,088 --> 00:47:24,008 I testified before the Office of Independent Counsel 948 00:47:24,008 --> 00:47:26,344 and the grand jury. 949 00:47:26,344 --> 00:47:30,014 I answered their questions truthfully, including questions 950 00:47:30,014 --> 00:47:33,768 about my private life, questions no American citizen 951 00:47:33,768 --> 00:47:35,816 would ever want to answer. 952 00:47:36,937 --> 00:47:39,106 Indeed, I did have a relationship with Ms. Lewinsky 953 00:47:39,106 --> 00:47:41,150 that was not appropriate. 954 00:47:41,150 --> 00:47:43,652 In fact, it was wrong. 955 00:47:43,652 --> 00:47:45,988 It constituted a critical lapse in judgment 956 00:47:45,988 --> 00:47:50,242 and a personal failure on my part for which I am solely 957 00:47:50,242 --> 00:47:52,139 and completely responsible. 958 00:47:52,139 --> 00:47:53,760 Why do you think you took 959 00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:56,332 that risk with your marriage and your child 960 00:47:56,332 --> 00:47:59,293 and your country, what do you-- 961 00:47:59,293 --> 00:48:00,795 When you look back-- 962 00:48:00,795 --> 00:48:02,797 - Nobody thinks about that, nobody thinks I'm taking a risk, 963 00:48:02,797 --> 00:48:05,558 that's not why people do stupid things. 964 00:48:06,634 --> 00:48:08,386 That's not what happened, nobody sits down 965 00:48:08,386 --> 00:48:11,722 and thinks I think I'll take a really irresponsible risk. 966 00:48:11,722 --> 00:48:13,891 It's bad for my family, it's bad for my country, 967 00:48:13,891 --> 00:48:15,309 bad for the people who work with me, 968 00:48:15,309 --> 00:48:17,895 that's not what happened. 969 00:48:17,895 --> 00:48:22,483 That you you feel like you're staggering around 970 00:48:22,483 --> 00:48:26,862 and you've been in a 15 round prize fight 971 00:48:26,862 --> 00:48:28,823 that was extended to 30 rounds. 972 00:48:30,282 --> 00:48:33,369 And here's something that will take your mind off it 973 00:48:33,369 --> 00:48:35,871 for a while, that's what happened. 974 00:48:37,706 --> 00:48:42,336 Because there, whatever life, not just me, 975 00:48:44,588 --> 00:48:47,174 everybody's life has pressures and disappointment 976 00:48:47,174 --> 00:48:51,971 and terrors, fears of whatever. 977 00:48:55,599 --> 00:48:59,186 Things I did to manage my anxiety for years, 978 00:48:59,186 --> 00:49:01,897 I'm a different, totally different person than I was, 979 00:49:03,065 --> 00:49:05,734 a lot of that stuff, you know 20 years ago, 980 00:49:05,734 --> 00:49:09,238 maybe it's just getting older, but I hope it was also 981 00:49:09,238 --> 00:49:11,490 going through a lot of this but whatever. 982 00:49:16,245 --> 00:49:19,748 But I did it, it was bad, but it wasn't like I thought, 983 00:49:19,748 --> 00:49:21,959 let's see how can I think about the most stupid thing 984 00:49:21,959 --> 00:49:23,992 I could possibly do and do it. 985 00:49:26,547 --> 00:49:31,886 It's not a defense, it's an explanation, it was awful. 986 00:49:31,886 --> 00:49:33,893 And I feel terrible about the-- 987 00:49:37,641 --> 00:49:39,643 - The president's extraordinary speech tonight 988 00:49:39,643 --> 00:49:41,812 could have a huge impact on the country. 989 00:49:41,812 --> 00:49:43,272 He has lied to the American people 990 00:49:43,272 --> 00:49:44,857 for seven and a half months. 991 00:49:44,857 --> 00:49:47,401 He let down his family, he let down the country. 992 00:49:47,401 --> 00:49:50,446 The morning after, people are wondering-- 993 00:49:50,446 --> 00:49:53,494 - I wanna get away, I want to get out of Washington. 994 00:49:53,494 --> 00:49:56,577 We did have plans to go to Martha's vineyard. 995 00:49:56,577 --> 00:49:58,954 I had some really good friends there. 996 00:50:01,916 --> 00:50:05,085 Chelsea put herself between us and held both our hands, 997 00:50:05,085 --> 00:50:10,090 that was not anything other than her just 998 00:50:10,090 --> 00:50:12,105 trying to keep us together. 999 00:50:16,180 --> 00:50:20,518 And when she did that my gosh, I thought, 1000 00:50:20,518 --> 00:50:25,564 that's just that's just so incredible. 1001 00:50:27,107 --> 00:50:30,236 So strong and so wise. 1002 00:50:33,572 --> 00:50:36,075 She was filling in our empty space there. 1003 00:50:37,409 --> 00:50:40,079 The picture is worth a million words. 1004 00:50:46,710 --> 00:50:49,296 There's a fairly large crowd. 1005 00:50:49,296 --> 00:50:54,260 Now you hear the applause, and the president emerges 1006 00:50:55,636 --> 00:50:58,472 along with Chelsea and behind him Hillary Clinton. 1007 00:51:00,558 --> 00:51:03,811 Mr. Clinton turns 52 tomorrow. 1008 00:51:03,811 --> 00:51:06,647 Normally there is a party or some sort of celebration 1009 00:51:06,647 --> 00:51:08,274 on the island, the question is 1010 00:51:08,274 --> 00:51:11,527 just how public the president will be this time. 1011 00:51:12,945 --> 00:51:15,781 I think he and his wife are keenly aware of the fact 1012 00:51:15,781 --> 00:51:16,699 that they're being watched. 1013 00:51:16,699 --> 00:51:18,158 They're in a glass bowl here. 1014 00:51:19,702 --> 00:51:21,537 - I still didn't talk to him. 1015 00:51:21,537 --> 00:51:24,177 I didn't want anything to do with him. 1016 00:51:25,499 --> 00:51:27,126 He spent a lot of time just playing golf 1017 00:51:27,126 --> 00:51:29,962 and talking to a couple of his friends. 1018 00:51:35,593 --> 00:51:39,930 - I don't even know how in the world she managed through it, 1019 00:51:39,930 --> 00:51:42,683 'cause she had to do it on the public stage, 1020 00:51:42,683 --> 00:51:47,354 not like a normal person who has the misfortune 1021 00:51:47,354 --> 00:51:50,211 of going through something like that. 1022 00:51:51,233 --> 00:51:55,988 Every time they appeared publicly it was 1023 00:51:55,988 --> 00:51:59,074 are they wearing the wedding rings, are they holding hands, 1024 00:51:59,074 --> 00:52:02,661 what's the body language, that's all they analyzed. 1025 00:52:04,246 --> 00:52:06,165 - I can tell you this. 1026 00:52:06,165 --> 00:52:11,211 Insofar as I've ever known anyone well, 1027 00:52:11,211 --> 00:52:14,340 those two people love each other, if they didn't 1028 00:52:14,340 --> 00:52:17,843 it would be so much easier. 1029 00:52:17,843 --> 00:52:20,346 - She's been a figure of controversy, 1030 00:52:20,346 --> 00:52:23,849 which is why her current standing is so fascinating, 1031 00:52:23,849 --> 00:52:26,894 because now what may be the low point of her time 1032 00:52:26,894 --> 00:52:28,896 in the White House, public approval 1033 00:52:28,896 --> 00:52:31,774 for Mrs. Clinton has never been higher. 1034 00:52:31,774 --> 00:52:35,069 But even as a victim, Mrs. Clinton, still raises doubts. 1035 00:52:35,069 --> 00:52:38,906 In the latest ABC news poll, 79 percent say 1036 00:52:38,906 --> 00:52:42,117 they think she's known about the affair for months. 1037 00:52:43,285 --> 00:52:48,874 - I think people don't really understand what, 1038 00:52:48,874 --> 00:52:53,253 how hurt she has been personally by him, you know 1039 00:52:53,253 --> 00:52:57,091 in the Monica Lewinsky case, it's because she's so smart 1040 00:52:57,091 --> 00:53:00,427 people always believe there is some deviousness, 1041 00:53:00,427 --> 00:53:03,389 that she must have known about Monica Lewinsky all along, 1042 00:53:03,389 --> 00:53:06,600 and been out there lying to protect him. 1043 00:53:06,600 --> 00:53:09,728 And you know I always thought that would be so much better 1044 00:53:09,728 --> 00:53:12,064 than the truth that he really lied to her 1045 00:53:12,064 --> 00:53:16,902 and she really was devastated, and I think to this day, 1046 00:53:16,902 --> 00:53:18,445 people don't understand that. 1047 00:53:19,905 --> 00:53:22,157 - After investigating the president for four years, 1048 00:53:22,157 --> 00:53:24,410 Ken Starr's office has finally delivered 1049 00:53:24,410 --> 00:53:25,994 a report to congress. 1050 00:53:25,994 --> 00:53:28,622 A report that could pose the most serious impeachment threat 1051 00:53:28,622 --> 00:53:30,958 to a president since the days of Watergate. 1052 00:53:32,042 --> 00:53:33,919 - They come back from those couple weeks 1053 00:53:33,919 --> 00:53:38,924 in Martha's Vineyard and she was, 1054 00:53:41,885 --> 00:53:44,763 a ferocious opponent of impeachment, 1055 00:53:44,763 --> 00:53:49,768 which wasn't just personal, it was really her conviction 1056 00:53:51,228 --> 00:53:53,355 about the fact that what they were doing was wrong 1057 00:53:53,355 --> 00:53:55,691 and they needed to stand up against it. 1058 00:53:55,691 --> 00:53:58,986 - I had the extra burden of having been 1059 00:53:58,986 --> 00:54:03,949 on the impeachment staff back in 1974. 1060 00:54:04,783 --> 00:54:05,993 I had done the research about 1061 00:54:05,993 --> 00:54:08,162 what is a high crime or misdemeanor. 1062 00:54:08,162 --> 00:54:11,123 I knew what the standards of impeachment were, 1063 00:54:11,123 --> 00:54:13,876 I knew this did not meet it. 1064 00:54:13,876 --> 00:54:15,919 You know he shouldn't have done what he did, 1065 00:54:15,919 --> 00:54:18,172 he shouldn't have tried to hide it, 1066 00:54:18,172 --> 00:54:20,591 but it was not an impeachable offense. 1067 00:54:21,967 --> 00:54:27,443 - What I always found the most amazing is that she could 1068 00:54:27,443 --> 00:54:33,312 in her mind, or she chose to compartmentalize, 1069 00:54:33,312 --> 00:54:37,566 to say I might want to kill my husband, 1070 00:54:37,566 --> 00:54:42,196 but I don't want the country to have to lose their president 1071 00:54:42,196 --> 00:54:45,407 because I want to kill my husband, 1072 00:54:46,408 --> 00:54:47,826 and most people can't do that. 1073 00:54:47,826 --> 00:54:49,077 I couldn't. 1074 00:54:49,077 --> 00:54:51,163 I would have, I know I would have been small. 1075 00:54:51,163 --> 00:54:53,248 I would have said you know what, haha. 1076 00:54:54,416 --> 00:54:58,504 You do this to me, I can take your presidency. 1077 00:54:58,504 --> 00:55:02,799 And I have admired her a lot for making that hard choice. 1078 00:55:02,799 --> 00:55:07,804 - Once he admitted that he had lied, I was beyond furious. 1079 00:55:09,181 --> 00:55:12,226 I was crushed, I loved this man, so believed in him. 1080 00:55:12,226 --> 00:55:14,061 And really thought about quitting. 1081 00:55:15,479 --> 00:55:18,857 And not longer after, I said I would. 1082 00:55:20,275 --> 00:55:22,361 And within minutes, I got a call from the first lady, 1083 00:55:22,361 --> 00:55:25,697 she said I'm not quitting, you're not quitting. 1084 00:55:28,450 --> 00:55:30,077 That really meant a lot. 1085 00:55:30,077 --> 00:55:32,871 And I thought I gotta get out of my own head 1086 00:55:32,871 --> 00:55:35,040 and realize there's a lot more at stake here. 1087 00:55:35,040 --> 00:55:36,959 I swore an oath to the Constitution, 1088 00:55:36,959 --> 00:55:38,335 not to Bill Clinton 1089 00:55:39,002 --> 00:55:40,879 and I thought it was a very easy call then, 1090 00:55:40,879 --> 00:55:43,006 because it didn't merit impeachment at all. 1091 00:55:44,424 --> 00:55:45,884 The gavel falls on this historic debate 1092 00:55:45,884 --> 00:55:48,554 to begin impeachment hearings for only the third time 1093 00:55:48,554 --> 00:55:49,846 in our nation's history. 1094 00:55:49,846 --> 00:55:51,265 This time against President Bill Clinton. 1095 00:55:51,265 --> 00:55:53,016 - I was carrying on my schedule, 1096 00:55:53,016 --> 00:55:55,769 because I felt it was important, I didn't want, 1097 00:55:55,769 --> 00:55:59,982 I didn't want to frankly be portrayed any more as a victim 1098 00:55:59,982 --> 00:56:03,277 than the situation called for. 1099 00:56:03,277 --> 00:56:06,613 So, I was getting up every day and going out 1100 00:56:06,613 --> 00:56:08,574 and doing what I could. 1101 00:56:08,574 --> 00:56:12,327 - At that point, her approval ratings are 1102 00:56:12,327 --> 00:56:13,912 as high as they have ever been. 1103 00:56:15,330 --> 00:56:19,793 So come the fall in what should be a really difficult 1104 00:56:19,793 --> 00:56:21,962 midterm election for the Democrats, 1105 00:56:21,962 --> 00:56:25,591 Hillary Clinton is suddenly the most sought after, 1106 00:56:25,591 --> 00:56:29,636 surrogate speaker for Democrats around the country. 1107 00:56:29,636 --> 00:56:31,972 - Well I certainly feel welcome. 1108 00:56:31,972 --> 00:56:33,473 Bill Clinton is too toxic 1109 00:56:33,473 --> 00:56:36,560 to leave the White House, but every member of congress 1110 00:56:36,560 --> 00:56:39,646 wants Hillary in their district campaigning for them. 1111 00:56:39,646 --> 00:56:41,273 - Thank you! 1112 00:56:41,273 --> 00:56:44,192 And then the election came, and Democrats won. 1113 00:56:44,192 --> 00:56:45,819 - The American political landscape 1114 00:56:45,819 --> 00:56:47,154 looks a good deal different tonight 1115 00:56:47,154 --> 00:56:49,489 than it did just 24 hours ago. 1116 00:56:49,489 --> 00:56:50,949 Defying history 1117 00:56:50,949 --> 00:56:54,453 and what a lot of people expected, Democrats make gains 1118 00:56:54,453 --> 00:56:56,288 and declare a major victory. 1119 00:56:56,288 --> 00:56:58,040 - We gained seats, no one had ever done that, 1120 00:56:58,040 --> 00:57:00,125 it's impossible, and we did. 1121 00:57:00,125 --> 00:57:02,669 Not because people thought it was a really good idea 1122 00:57:02,669 --> 00:57:07,090 to have this really inappropriate affair, 1123 00:57:08,300 --> 00:57:11,762 but because they thought the response was crazy, 1124 00:57:11,762 --> 00:57:14,014 and they wanted to send a message hey cut that crap out. 1125 00:57:14,014 --> 00:57:16,767 And they didn't like Ken Starr and Newt Gingrich trying 1126 00:57:16,767 --> 00:57:21,813 to overturn a national election for something like that. 1127 00:57:22,814 --> 00:57:24,358 - Today the impeachment hearings began 1128 00:57:24,358 --> 00:57:27,069 and the star witness is Ken Starr and today he will say 1129 00:57:27,069 --> 00:57:28,987 for the first time that the president 1130 00:57:28,987 --> 00:57:30,697 did not commit impeachable offenses 1131 00:57:30,697 --> 00:57:34,076 in the Whitewater Filegate and Travelgate investigation. 1132 00:57:34,076 --> 00:57:37,579 - After the congressional election, Starr sent a report 1133 00:57:37,579 --> 00:57:41,500 to congress and said by the way, in addition to arguing 1134 00:57:41,500 --> 00:57:44,044 that he should be impeached because of Lewinsky, 1135 00:57:44,044 --> 00:57:46,546 we wanna report that with regard to Whitewater, 1136 00:57:46,546 --> 00:57:50,509 we found nothing abusive, nothing whatsoever. 1137 00:57:50,509 --> 00:57:53,720 - Judge Starr, you did release what amounts 1138 00:57:53,720 --> 00:57:56,390 to an exoneration of the president with respect 1139 00:57:56,390 --> 00:57:59,226 to the Vince Foster matter, is that correct? 1140 00:57:59,226 --> 00:58:01,978 - Yes, with respect to the cause of death, 1141 00:58:01,978 --> 00:58:04,523 it was a suicide by Mr. Foster. 1142 00:58:04,523 --> 00:58:07,442 - You felt comfortable in exonerating the president. 1143 00:58:07,442 --> 00:58:08,568 Yes. 1144 00:58:08,568 --> 00:58:11,196 - I was on that committee, Kenneth Starr 1145 00:58:11,196 --> 00:58:14,199 exonerated the Clintons on everything but Lewinsky. 1146 00:58:14,199 --> 00:58:16,952 - You tell us that months ago, you concluded that no, 1147 00:58:16,952 --> 00:58:19,371 that the president was not involved in the FBI files, 1148 00:58:19,371 --> 00:58:20,872 and you've never had any evidence he was involved 1149 00:58:20,872 --> 00:58:23,458 in the travel office, yet now several weeks 1150 00:58:23,458 --> 00:58:25,585 after the election is the first time you're saying that. 1151 00:58:25,585 --> 00:58:28,505 - They were a little embarrassed to say politically 1152 00:58:28,505 --> 00:58:30,048 that they were going to impeach the president 1153 00:58:30,048 --> 00:58:31,550 purely because of the sex. 1154 00:58:31,550 --> 00:58:34,428 They wanted to say that there was a pattern of corruption. 1155 00:58:34,428 --> 00:58:36,430 Well there was no pattern of corruption. 1156 00:58:37,514 --> 00:58:41,017 - After endless suspicion and hunting, 1157 00:58:41,017 --> 00:58:43,770 Ken Starr never alleged any criminal wrongdoing 1158 00:58:43,770 --> 00:58:46,148 by either Bill or Hillary Clinton in connection 1159 00:58:46,148 --> 00:58:47,566 with Whitewater, and in connection 1160 00:58:47,566 --> 00:58:49,568 with any of the different investigations. 1161 00:58:49,568 --> 00:58:51,611 - Good evening, well after all of this, 1162 00:58:51,611 --> 00:58:54,906 more than a year of sex, lies, and videotape, 1163 00:58:54,906 --> 00:58:57,325 the second impeachment trial of an American president 1164 00:58:57,325 --> 00:59:01,288 ended today and the vote wasn't even close. 1165 00:59:01,288 --> 00:59:02,497 Not guilty. 1166 00:59:02,497 --> 00:59:04,249 - The said William Jefferson Clinton be 1167 00:59:04,249 --> 00:59:08,545 and hereby is acquitted of the charges in the said articles. 1168 00:59:08,545 --> 00:59:13,008 - It is important to me that everybody who has been hurt 1169 00:59:13,008 --> 00:59:17,637 know that the sorrow I feel is genuine. 1170 00:59:17,637 --> 00:59:22,976 First and most important my family, also my friends, 1171 00:59:22,976 --> 00:59:29,149 my staff, my cabinet, Monica Lewinsky and her family. 1172 00:59:29,149 --> 00:59:32,277 - I defended and stood by him because I thought 1173 00:59:32,277 --> 00:59:33,695 the impeachment process was wrong, 1174 00:59:33,695 --> 00:59:38,325 but that wasn't the necessary answer to what I would do 1175 00:59:38,325 --> 00:59:41,953 with my marriage, it was not to me the same. 1176 00:59:41,953 --> 00:59:45,290 I still had to decide, you know whether I wanted to stay 1177 00:59:45,290 --> 00:59:48,293 in the marriage, whether I thought it was worth saving. 1178 00:59:50,337 --> 00:59:54,841 We saw a counselor, I mean painful, painful discussions. 1179 00:59:56,301 --> 00:59:57,761 The counseling was one of the hardest things 1180 00:59:57,761 --> 00:59:58,762 I've ever had to do. 1181 01:00:00,180 --> 01:00:02,140 But it was necessary, 1182 01:00:03,058 --> 01:00:04,059 - She deserved it. 1183 01:00:05,268 --> 01:00:07,103 Chelsea deserved it and I needed it. 1184 01:00:10,732 --> 01:00:13,235 I feel terrible about the fact that 1185 01:00:13,235 --> 01:00:16,029 Monica Lewinsky's life was defined by it, 1186 01:00:16,029 --> 01:00:19,074 unfairly, I think. 1187 01:00:19,074 --> 01:00:20,909 You know, over the years, I've watched her 1188 01:00:20,909 --> 01:00:24,329 trying to get a normal life back again. 1189 01:00:24,329 --> 01:00:28,375 But you gotta decide 1190 01:00:28,375 --> 01:00:31,002 how to define normal. 1191 01:00:34,297 --> 01:00:38,510 - I made a decision to stay with my husband. 1192 01:00:40,303 --> 01:00:44,641 Look, I think that some people 1193 01:00:44,641 --> 01:00:46,142 thought I'd made the right decision 1194 01:00:46,142 --> 01:00:48,144 and some people thought I made the wrong decision. 1195 01:00:48,144 --> 01:00:52,023 And so I have gotten both 1196 01:00:52,023 --> 01:00:56,444 affirmation and 1197 01:00:56,444 --> 01:00:59,865 criticism for the decision I made. 1198 01:00:59,865 --> 01:01:02,534 And that was true, you know, 1199 01:01:02,534 --> 01:01:04,369 from the very beginning 1200 01:01:04,369 --> 01:01:06,580 of deciding that. 1201 01:01:06,580 --> 01:01:09,958 And you know, it's a funny time we live in. 1202 01:01:09,958 --> 01:01:12,419 The kind of public opinion shifts, 1203 01:01:12,419 --> 01:01:17,007 and people say, "So noble she stayed in the marriage," 1204 01:01:17,007 --> 01:01:20,594 to, "It's so... 1205 01:01:20,594 --> 01:01:23,763 incomprehensible that she stayed in the marriage." 1206 01:01:23,763 --> 01:01:27,183 You know that there's forces at work in the society 1207 01:01:27,183 --> 01:01:29,352 that people are working through themselves. 1208 01:01:31,688 --> 01:01:35,275 - I was so grateful that she 1209 01:01:35,275 --> 01:01:39,308 thought we still had enough to stick it out. 1210 01:01:42,537 --> 01:01:45,327 God knows the burden she paid for that. 96266

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