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All right so we wanna hear your story.

Unvarnished, beginning to end.

- Gotcha, okay.

- Is it okay now? - It's okay.

I'll try not to move so much.

No, please move as much as you want.

Are we ready?

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Okay so do you feel frustrated

that you've been in public life for 30 years,

yet people feel that they don't know

who you are.

That you seem inauthentic.

- I do!

I do feel, I do feel like

what is this about.

When people say I'm not authentic,

what you see is what you get,

I mean I'm sorry if I'm not brilliantly

charismatic on TV, but I am the same person

I've always been and going through this gauntlet

of unbelievable obstacles,

I mean yeah you get scarred up

a little bit.

Hillary, Hillary, Hillary, Hillary, Hillary.

Please welcome to the stage,

Hillary Rodham Clinton.

Clinton set to launch her second bid

for the presidency.

- The goal is to get Hillary Clinton elected

to be the 45th president of the United States.

- Thank you San Antonio. - She is the most

recognizable female public figure.

It's time the sense of destiny.

- The problem is of course,

she is one of the most admired

and one of the most vilified women in American history.

Hillary is unlikeable

because she's unlikeable.

She is just sort of a polarizing figure.

She hides things.

That's her nature.

- You hear about her, I don't know,

there's something about her I just don't like.

I don't know, there's something about her

I just don't trust.

Almost since the moment Clinton

burst on the national scene in 1992,

she has set off a firestorm.

- Either people feel extraordinarily,

passionately positive about her,

or they absolutely do not like her and reject her.

- What an honor.

- Hey Hillary Benghazi matters, you're incompetent.

- You bet, you bet, read the report.

- I provoke strong opinions, positive and negative.

- Hilary, take a hike!

- I mean I one time said to somebody who asked me

what do you want on your gravestone I said,

she's neither as good nor as bad

as some people say about her.

- I didn't grow up as a little girl

thinking hey I could be president.

That never crossed my mind.

I was born in the city of Chicago.

When I was about four, we moved to a suburb

called Park Ridge.

It was a classic post World War II

Leave it to Beaver upbringing.

When I was a little girl,

I never knew a woman who worked outside the home

except for my teachers and the librarians

at our library.

She's got a man she's promised

to love honor and--

- Keep house going the right way.

- Does that mean I never have to help with the dishes.

- Never.

Vel does my dishes.

It's Marvelous.

- I had an incredible mother.

She really was loving, encouraging.

My father had been a chief petty officer

in the Navy.

He didn't know anything other than to set high expectations

and that even though I was a girl,

he was going to expect me to do well.

The neighborhood was pretty conservative.

They were all Republicans.

I remember one time playing Pinochle

with the grown up men, we got into a big card fight.

And I say to my father, I'm quitting

and I'm leaving and when I grow up I'm going to marry

a Democrat.

It was the worst thing I could think of to say to my father,

and they were like what what?

- And my father said his prayers by the side

of his bed every single night,

being a Methodist was a big part

of my upbringing.

Do all the good you can, to all the people

you can for as long as you can.

Then in 1961 we had a new youth minister show up

and his name was Reverend Don Jones.

He was a real Methodist, I mean

he really had a mission, he thought everybody did,

and that everybody was supposed to be striving

to do all the good they could.

Don's goal was to sort of force us to open

our eyes to world beyond our comfortable suburb.

Two, four six eight,

we don't wanna integrate.

- The Civil Rights movement was in full motion.

We want King, we want King, we want King.

- I was seeing so much of what happened during

the Civil Rights movement

through the lens of the faith I was brought up in.

- I mean how could you go to church on Sunday

and hate people on Monday,

I just could never figure that out.

Our youth group had gone to hear Dr. King speak

in Downtown Chicago.

- Because however much she strays away from it,

the goal of America is freedom.

- Dr. King's sermon was called staying awake

through the revolution.

- Our destiny is tied up in the destiny of America.

- I'd never heard anything like that before.

I mean I'd never been to a a sermon like that,

I'd never heard a speaker like that.

- We shall overcome because the arc

of the moral universe is long but it bends towards justice.

- I was so struck by it.

It meant so much to me.

I mean I was beginning to wake up

to paraphrase Dr. King's sermon.

The high school I went to was huge,

probably 4,800 5,000 people,

a lot of the girls didn't wanna make

better grades than their boyfriends.

They didn't want to make themselves

un-marriageable by looking too smart,

working too hard.

I just couldn't be anything other than...

what I was.

- Hillary was on student counsel in high school

and she ran for president.

But you have to understand,

no matter how many girls ran, it was always the boy

who was going to win.

- The boys basically said no,

no girl's going to be president,

and then the boy who won, as soon as he won,

he came to me and asked me to do all the work.

He was going to be the president

of the student council.

But he wanted me to lead the organizations committee

to do all the work,

which of course I said yes,

because I was interested in the work,

but that was that was kind of the education

about what was going on in the world.

And it was one of the reasons why I decided

to go to an all-girls college.

I decided to go to Wellesley, and that was it.

I was pretty intimidated through the first weeks,

felt very out of place.

I didn't think I could do the work.

I didn't think I belonged.

- We were in the same dorm, freshman year.

I have a pretty good sense of humor,

she had a great sense of humor.

She did come from conservative Republican parents.

- Friends of mine tended to be more liberal and progressive.

They'd say wow do you believe

that Hillary Rodham was for Goldwater.

- I actually went to the young Republicans meeting,

and much to my surprise was elected

president of the young Republicans.

I held that position for maybe a month or two

and then I just decided

I don't think I believe that any more.

I've got to do my own due diligence to figure

out where I stand politically.

- And I could see in constitutional law class

she felt very strongly about marginalized

groups in American society and social reform.

She was very very pragmatic, even then.

Basically her view was how do you get from here to there.

- Look, I consider myself a problem solver,

I consider myself an idealist

and an optimist, but you have to be willing to work

in the system.

NBC News live coverage

of the Democratic National Convention.

- The Summer of 1968, the Democratic Convention

was in Chicago.

10,000 anti-war demonstrators

gathered in Grant Park this afternoon.

- Hillary called and she said

we really should go down because it was on TV.

And here was our downtown park

and all these things going on.

We told our mothers we were going to the movies.

Because there was no way they were going to let us go.

- By the time we got to Grant Park, it was crazy.

I mean people were confronting the police,

people a hundred feet behind me were throwing rocks,

who are they going to hit,

they were going to hit other kids.

I was never in the camp that thought violence

was the answer to violence.

I never believed that, I still to this day

don't believe that.

- But Hillary said we need

to come back tomorrow night and really listen

to what they were saying, and what was going on.

- The first reality is the necessity for peace

in Vietnam and in the world.

- For me 1968 was just a watershed.

I had young men who were friends of mine

who were being drafted, and my then boyfriend

was a conscientious objector.

So I knew people who were putting their lives,

their beliefs on the line.

- You don't have to go.

- As fraught as times are right now,

you just felt like

the end of the world was right around the corner,

and you had to do everything you could

to hold it together.

I started my senior year at Wellesley after that summer.

I was by then the president of the college government.

We were graduating and some of my classmates

and friends said we've been talking

and we don't think it's right that in this time

of turmoil and change we don't have a student speaker.

And we think you should speak.

- You know I don't think there was any vote

or process, people just said well Hillary of course.

Should be Hillary Rodham.

- And so we rallied for that,

and it was agreed by the administration

who I think didn't entirely realize

what they were getting.

- The main speaker was Senator Edward Brooke,

the Republican senator from Massachusetts.

- There is a narrow but distinct line

between productive dissent and counterproductive disruption.

- Senator Brooke made some comments that

were a little condescending, a little bit now you girls,

now you little girls.

- It was a message of all is well,

the system works.

It was also though a message, subtly,

of your place as wives and mothers.

- I was very,

I was very upset.

I wanted to counter the picture

that Senator Brooke was painting.

- Hillary got up and instead of starting off

with her speech, which I mean she had it written,

it was in front of her.

She just started talking.

- What I'm speaking for today is all of us,

and I find myself reacting just briefly

to some of the things that Senator Brooke said.

- I was first startled, because I thought I knew

what the opening lines were going to be.

I went, whoa, we're off script here.

- We feel that for too long our leaders

have viewed politics as the art of the possible

and the challenge now is to practice politics

as the art of making what appears

to be impossible, possible.

- I really got chills, I thought no,

we're not going to wait, what's happening

in this country is urgent, it's at a turning point.

- Every protest, every dissent is unabashedly

an attempt to forge an identity

in this particular age.

- You can't discount us, simply

because of our youth or because we're women.

- We gave her a standing ovation,

I mean we were just like yeah

you really spoke for us.

- That speech got picked up by the Boston Globe,

and then it got picked up from there,

and it just, it just cascaded.

- She was featured in the next week's Life magazine,

one of three college seniors picked out

as speaking for their generation.

That was her first brush with notoriety or fame.

- I think she did have the sense

that she was preparing herself to do very significant work.

- I never thought about going into politics,

but I was intrigued by people like Gene McCarthy

and Bobby Kennedy, who were trying to get laws changed,

and really from the top down promote social

and political change.

I decided that maybe I should go to law school.

So I went with a few of my friends

from Wellesley to take the entrance exam,

the what's called the LSAT.

We went to this enormous lecture hall,

at Harvard where it was being administered.

And there not many women,

it was sort of our small group and a few other

scattered women and it was hundreds of men.

And we sit down waiting for the test to start,

and these guys start harassing us.

Basically saying what are you doing here,

you don't belong here, you can't go to law school.

Or my favorite, if you get into law school

and take my place and I get sent to Vietnam

and die, it's your fault.

In those days, you got no points for being emotional.

You'd get no points for trying to fight back

or defend yourself, you just put your head down,

you worked hard, you got to where you were going,

despite whatever obstacles were put up.

And when you train yourself like that,

and then you move fast forward into an age

where everybody wants to see what your emotions

are and how you respond and all that,

it's really a different environment

in which we find ourselves now.

You have some money, 'cause I don't have my purse, great.

Okay, great.

Hello.

Hey nice to see you, how's business?

Not too bad, good, yeah I just did a big thing

on small business, so I'm really focused

on what we can do to make it even better.

- Keep us in focus.

- I will, I wanna be a small business president, so I am.

When I started campaigning in 2015,

I could see that so many people felt left out,

left behind in the economy and disgusted

with the inequality, and I thought I was best

prepared to deal with it.

I thought I could get things done.

Hello. - How you doin'?

- I've met so many people who come up to me

and they say drug prices are going up astronomically.

- And fewer and fewer are being covered

by their health insurance. - Fewer being covered.

- At the beginning of the race,

Hillary Clinton made this concerted effort

to listen to voters and hear what they needed

to talk about and hear what they needed change

and then emails blew it all up, right.

- Pressure is mounting on Hillary Clinton

to say more about why she opted to use a private

email account as opposed to government email

for her official business as Secretary of State.

- The email story broke in March of 2015.

New York Times, that she's had a private server.

- It comes up in the context of the Benghazi

investigation and the committee,

the Republican committee in the house discovers

that there are these emails that haven't

been on the government server and that she had been using

this personal email server the entire time.

- Former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton

is facing questions about why she never

had a government email.

- She used a private email throughout

her entire time as Secretary of State.

- State department said today that Clinton's use

of a personal email account was not illegal.

- Very hard to explain this story well,

people didn't quite get it.

The rules are arcane.

All they got was she did something wrong.

- The associated press reported Clinton's

personal email account was linked to a server

registered to her home in Chappaqua, New York.

- When I became Secretary of State,

I decided to use the server that had been set

up for Bill and his sort of former president's office.

I did it as a matter of convenience,

there was no regulation against it.

There was nothing against it.

And everybody knew I was doing it,

because they were all emailing me.

And I was emailing them, and that was hundreds

and hundreds of people in the government.

- She would point out that Colin Powell

also used a private email.

She did what previous secretary of states did.

Of course their name weren't Hillary Clinton,

and they weren't running for president.

- I don't think, I'd be happy if somebody

talked to you about the rules,

I've fully complied with every rule

that I was governed by.

- We had a press conference,

because we thought it would be like a two day story.

Okay here are the facts.

And so let's move on and talk about the future

of our country.

- Because they were personal and private.

- She had all different kinds of email,

she had personal emails, and she had work emails.

They read the law, what the law said

was anything work related you have to turn over.

So you divide those things in two,

you've got your work emails here

and then you've got emails about yoga and Chelsea's

wedding and other things that are probably pretty private.

She had friends who had cancer.

She had who knows, it's her email, right,

I'm sure she was having private conversations.

So if you're Hillary Clinton

you no longer use that email server.

And you have fulfilled your responsibilities

legally, what do you do with these other emails.

She deleted them.

I was wondering if you think you made a mistake

to the response to the controversy around this.

- Part of what I hoped to see Hillary say

was just of course I didn't want you people reading

through my emails look

at what you put us through in the '90s.

But she never actually said that,

there was always a lot of triangulating

and a lot of legalese about how this was allowed

at the time.

- Hillary Clinton today ignored questions

about calls for the FBI to investigate the handling

of classified information on the private email

account she used as Secretary of State.

- The concern was that classified information

US government secrets ended up on this server,

outside of the main system.

- Suddenly you have a presidential candidate

who is under FBI investigation

at the time of the campaign.

Which is a pretty extraordinary thing.

- The central question here is trust.

- Seems like the Clintons are always trying to create

their own rules or little carve outs.

- I have a hard time believing that it

was just that innocent.

- It tapped into this sort of underlying

question that certainly Hillary Clinton's detractors said

why doesn't she think she has to follow the same procedures

that other people do.

Or what are the Clintons really doing.

These sort of long term storylines that existed

before the presidential campaign and required

a very quick and forthright response.

- Like with a cloth or something no.

We have turned over the server,

they can do whatever they want

to with the server to figure out

what's there or what's not there.

That's for the people investigating it

to try and figure out.

Thank you all very much.

Is there an indication that this issue isn't

going to go away for the remainder

of your campaign?

- Nobody's talked to me about it,

other than you guys.

Look, I did get my hackles up

with some of the questions that came my way.

I take the responsibility,

it's clearly my my job to figure out

how to better handle it, which I never,

I never successfully did.

- We did decide all right,

let's do a round of interviews to try

to clear the decks.

- Well just say that what you did

was a mistake, it was dumb, it's over.

And that will end it.

I didn't, I did not believe that,

I wasn't convinced of that but I understood

the frustration of my campaign.

So against my better judgment, I said okay fine.

- And good day I'm Andrea Mitchell in New York

where I sat down with Hillary Clinton

just a few moments ago.

First of all, are you sorry,

do you wanna apologize to the American people

for the choice you made.

- Well it wasn't the best choice,

and I certainly have said that,

I will continue to say that.

- Andrea said well do you think

you should apologize and Hillary was kind of like,

we were all taken aback like apologize

to who for what.

But like my heart just sank because I was like

I knew as soon as an apology is on the table,

it's going to be like day three.

Where's the Clinton apology.

- The fact that the first words out

of her mouth are not, I'm really sorry about this.

- She's saying she's not going to apologize.

- She's back in the headlines once again,

she says that she does not need to apologize.

- Once that's on the table I was like

you gotta do it, you gotta apologize,

we gotta move on, we gotta get past this.

- So a couple days later we did an interview

with David Neal from ABC.

- So as you sit here, millions watching tonight,

did you make a mistake.

- I did, I did and as I said it was allowed,

but I'm sorry that it has raised

all of these questions.

Okay so it was a mistake,

shouldn't have done it, da da da da.

And that's, it was, it turned out

to be a mistake because look at all the oxygen that it

was sucking out of my campaign.

It didn't end it, it didn't end it at all.

And it never ended.

It never ended.

Hillary, Hillary, Hillary, Hillary.

- When we get knocked around,

we have to pull ourselves together

and stand up straight and keep walking forward.

You know eventually everybody's gonna say

wait a minute, the American electorate is savvy.

We sort out all of these different claims

and accusations, and we then decide what kind

of future we're willing to bet on by who we vote for.

- There was this stereotype manufactured

years ago, and that became the myth.

And about her being cold and calculating

and how could anyone love her.

They dehumanized her.

She's always been very good

at compartmentalizing her feelings.

I know there are times that it got her down.

But that also motivated her to keep pushing on.

I can beat them at their own game,

because she did many times.

- In 1969, I got into Yale Law School.

I was one of 27 women and that was the most

that they'd ever had.

There were huge changes taking place

and the so called Baby Boomer generation of women

were the shock troops.

- It was ladies day at Yale Law School

where all of a sudden,

the professor would only call on women.

It was a ceremony that made it clear

you're bizarre and this is the day

that you're going to be called on and we protested it.

And Hillary confronted that.

- She was someone who spoke up in class,

she was impressive.

I remember I introduced her to my then boyfriend.

And we came back from dinner and he said wow.

She's scary.

And I said good, you're right to be afraid

of her and he said, really I said

you should be afraid of all of us.

- During the '60s, with so much change

in society, in addition to the Civil Rights movement

and the antiwar movement,

the women's movement began to develop.

- In the early '70s, Ruth Bader Ginsberg

was bringing her cases to open up jobs,

to demand equality, there were new voices

like Gloria Steinem and and people

who just burst onto the scene.

- You know, it's-- it's very challenging

for a woman to admit she's smart in this society

and to admit she has ambition.

- A new kind of frame of mind, freedom and power,

hands into fists, a new kind of womanhood.

- Well women of course are delightful persons,

and I hear strange and strident voice,

that's the ball-ous bubble head I call

that person who speaks about the freedom

and the right to unabridge abortion

as it were, it doesn't speak for a woman.

- There was no question that Hillary

and I were part of the second wave of feminists,

and there was no way to be in Yale Law School

at that time and not be.

You know there were certain things we take

for granted now about women,

women trial lawyers, women politicians, women professors.

There were none.

We were looking around and we were saying isn't it amazing,

we can be that.

It really has to be said,

we were not talking about becoming president

of the United States.

I hear the press now talk about

she calculated from law school.

In 1968, we, the notion

that we would have a meaningful job that would match

our intellect was all we were talking about.

- Hillary, she had a focus, children,

families, early education, those kinds of issues.

- I really wanted to be an advocate for children.

Mostly because of what happened to my own mother.

She had a pretty miserable childhood,

neglected by her young parents,

she never felt part of a family,

she never felt like she was wanted,

she left home at 13 and went to work as a housekeeper.

I really felt like I had to do more to help people,

especially children like my own mother.

- It was unusual at the Yale Law School

to be interested in Family Law.

This wasn't a serious subject,

so that was already a courageous choice.

I'm a feminist and I'm going to do women

and children's rights issues.

It's interesting I didn't want

to go into that because I thought that was too feminine.

And so in some sense, she was doing something

much more radical than I was doing.

During the summer, Hillary started working

for Marian Right Adelman.

- I wish the senate would have a chance

to go and just look at the empty cupboards

in the Delta, and the number of people

who are going around begging just to feed their children.

- She had a reputation as a real groundbreaker,

advocating for neglected kids and migrant kids

and kids who were generally left behind.

- I met her when we were just beginning

the Children's Defense Fund,

and she clearly cared about children.

It was not right that children were not able

to go to school, did not have healthcare,

did not have permanent families

and this was something that offended her faith belief,

I think, and but also just her sense of fair play.

- I wrote a story about the summer when she went undercover,

as, working for the Children's Defense Fund,

and went to a school in Dothan, Alabama,

to investigate school segregation.

She pretended to be a wife and mother new to town

who wanted to enroll her child in the school.

And she sort of went through this role-playing

with the administrator and then said,

there's not that many black kids in this school.

And he was like, wink, wink, no.

And then she went back to Washington,

and like, filed this report on it.

It was the 70's so it was still somewhat dangerous

to be a single woman in the South poking around.

- I was really young, and filled with my sense

of self-righteousness about what we were doing.

I went a lot of places and did a lot of things

that looking back on, I would be worried if, you know,

some young woman today did some of that.

But I never, I never really stopped

to think about it, I just did.

- I had done two years at Oxford, wanted to go to Yale,

because it had a reputation of merging

law and policy, public policy law.

I took a class called political and civil rights.

And I saw Hillary sitting there.

And I don't know, there was just something,

she had a certain aura about her, I thought, well,

there's somebody who's special and I knew nothing about her.

And I had just broken up with a woman

I was going with and I, didn't really want to,

I just wanted to wander around for a while.

And not be involved, but anyway I just found her magnetic.

So I went up and I got very close to her,

and I couldn't bring myself to touch her on the shoulder.

I just had this feeling that this is not going to be normal,

and this could change your life,

and I don't know about this.

I'll never forget that was the first time I saw her.

- One day I was up in the library, and he was watching me,

and I could tell he was watching me.

- And she closed the law book, walked all the way

to where I was standing.

- And I said if you're going to keep looking at me,

and I'm going to keep looking back,

we ought to know each other's names.

I'm Hillary Rodham, who are you.

- She was different than anybody I ever met.

And the more time I spent with her, the better I liked her.

It wasn't complicated.

- You know we were serious, almost from the beginning.

Bill was just for me in a different universe,

a different, you know, level of connection.

He was so incredibly charismatic,

filled with positive energy, really smart.

I just felt like he was the most interesting man

I'd ever met and probably ever would meet,

and that I would never have a dull or boring moment,

and that has proven to be true.

- My mother didn't know what to make of her.

She, my mother met her when she, we were in law school.

- I can't say it was the most successful meeting.

She was a force of nature,

but we were not exactly on the same wavelength.

You know, I wore glasses and I wasn't exactly

a pageant beauty and all the rest of it.

- You know there was a race in our group

how many beauty conventions you could ignore,

from shaving your legs to going braless,

the law students were each grubbier than the next.

It was sort of a race to grubbiness.

- Hillary was all nervous about meeting my mother.

So, and she went out and did a stupid thing,

she kind of chopped her hair off shorter

and it was all kind of ratty looking.

And she had these big coke bottle glasses,

she wasn't wearing contacts yet.

And you know my mother was used to me going out with women

in Arkansas that at least wore makeup you know.

And I said, mother, she's more like you than you think.

And I said you're both tough as nails and you'll be fine,

and she's a really good person, just relax.

- We both graduated in June of 1973.

Bill wanted to take me to Europe,

I'd never been to Europe.

We got a car and we traveled all over England and Wales.

And we were up in the lake country,

and that's when he proposed to me for the first time.

Not half way down once before I said,

you know, I really want to marry you.

I never thought I would be married,

I thought, was a good chance I would spend my life alone.

I just, 'cause I had a complicated childhood you know,

and I worried about it.

But I said I really want to marry you,

but you shouldn't marry me.

And she said, that's not a very good sales pitch.

And I said well you shouldn't because I have

to go home to Arkansas, I love the place,

I want to spend my life there.

I want to be in politics.

If I can, and if I can I want to live there.

And it won't be me if I don't do it.

- You know, I certainly loved him

and I loved being with him, but I just didn't know

what I was going to do, so I just needed more time.

And that's what I told him.

He said okay, he said, you know I'll wait.

- So we graduate from law school,

she went to Washington and I went home.

What happened in Watergate

set off a series of political scandals,

the likes of which this country never before has known.

- What did the president know and when did he know it?

- In '74, as Watergate unspooled,

and things started moving toward impeachment,

the House committee was putting together the investigation

and needed smart young things, among them, Hillary.

- Mr. Chairman, the first matter that I would like to report

to on the committee this morning

is the progress of the investigation.

- I don't think I could have asked for a more intense

educational immersion experience in being a young lawyer.

I worked on a memo about what the grounds

for impeachment were.

I had to really dive into very old text

to figure out what high crimes and misdemeanors meant.

When those facts that had been vetted

and proven were finally presented.

- 27 members have voted aye.

- Even Republicans were convinced that President Nixon

had violated terms covered by high crimes and misdemeanors.

- Therefore, I shall resign the presidency,

effective at noon tomorrow.

- What I saw first hand was a process

that worked the way it was supposed to work.

But when it was over, and there was no further role for us,

then I had to decide what I did next.

- I went to visit her, we had a wonderful time,

and I met all these people that she worked with,

but in terms of our life together,

I said, you're the most gifted person that I know.

And you should go home to Illinois and run for office,

or move to New York or someplace else.

Where you can run for office.

And she just laughed at me.

She said are you kidding, nobody'd ever vote for me.

Who would vote for a pushy woman like me?

- Madame Secretary, I-- I've got Nicki on the phone,

but I've got a short leash.

I figure it out.

- I'm sorry. - Well done Nick.

- Here, right.

- Hello.

That is so great Nikki.

Wow, 75%, wow thank you.

Take care, bye bye.

- 75%.

- Hey!

- Up 13 points since this morning then, right?

- I know, yeah good.

- Hello everybody.

Hello!

- This is where we come in. - Okay great.

- I'll begin and then. - Okay great.

- I have to say this is a little surreal.

- Yeah, for me too.

But I'm gonna push through it.

- You know, you do me better than I do me.

- Hi, I'm Hillary Rodham Clinton.

- Great name, I'm Val.

- Val, I'm just so darned bummed.

All anyone wants to talk about is Donald Trump.

- Donald Trump, is he the one that's like,

you're all losers.

- That is him, indeed, fuck, that's good.

Thank you for saving the world.

- Thanks guys.

Yes.

- Hi, I really wanted to ask about

your political views for Bernie Sanders.

- My political views?

- Bernie Sanders!

He's a self described

Democratic socialist from Vermont, taking on the biggest

front-runner the Democratic party has ever seen.

- Enough is enough!

Hillary Clinton is feeling the Bern.

- I do remember Robby Mook, who was our campaign manager,

who is from Vermont by the way, Bernie Sanders' home state,

who said very early on, do not underestimate this guy.

He may look like an old man who's standing in the corner

of the dinner party ranting about

God knows what, but do not underestimate him.

- I felt very aware of how powerful he was as a messenger.

He had been saying the same stuff for 20 years.

- We are the 99%, and it's time

we took power away from the 1%.

- Hillary Clinton was by comparison with Bernie Sanders

seen as the centrist, seen as the establishment,

seen as an old-school Democrat.

- I'm not oblivious to the pain and the frustration

that people feel about our political system, our economy,

our government, and it's very personal to me,

because every other generation of Americans when asked,

do you think things will be better, they've always said yes.

She wins, we lose.

- I know the Bernie people came to say that,

we're very sorry you're leaving.

I'm with her, I'm with her.

- You know, wait before, can I just say this,

as they're leaving I want to say, look,

you may not be supporting me but I'm supporting you.

I will work for you, I will fight for you.

- Man...

And yes, every public college

and university in America will be tuition-free.

- I see Bernie Sanders as he's saying

to the young people I'm gonna be able

to send you to school for free.

- I think I have a better plan actually.

To make college affordable on the front end,

I support debt-free tuition.

Nobody should have to borrow money to pay tuition.

And then we're going to make it possible

to refinance their debt.

- To get it down much lower,

to move into a contingency repayment plan.

- People's greatest strength

is usually their greatest weakness too.

Hillary Clinton's greatest strength was that she knew

this policy stuff back and forth,

and she was enormously effective at getting things done.

And so when when someone says to her

"how do we bring down college debt",

immediately this complicated calculus formula

is going in her head,

thinking through all the different types

of funding streams that could go into that.

All the different pieces of the bureaucracy

that would be responsible for managing that,

and she comes out with a policy

that she believes that she can go get done.

That is her, that is absolutely her superpower.

In a campaign it is her greatest weakness.

Because voters need clear, clean,

definitive answers on things, that moves faster today.

That's what will get traffic on social media now.

- You know I had people on my campaign say, just say,

free college you know, that's what Bernie's saying,

go out and say free college, and, you know,

this poll says that millennials love

the idea of free college.

I say no I'm not gonna do that.

I think you should level with people

even if you're not playing into their emotions.

And you know, that makes me a less than ideal politician.

I really understand that, I mean, I'm a really good

public official, I really do a good job,

but I do suffer from the responsibility gene.

I've said that for years because I don't like

to say something that I know is not true,

I don't like to say something that I'm gonna do,

that I know is not doable.

That is just anathema to me.

- And I told them about the cards and the photo.

That's the only funny little thing.

Did you get your hair cut?

The bangs-- - I love what Isabelle did.

I love my little bangs.

- I am getting my roots done tomorrow.

- It takes a certain amount of--

- I mean, honest to God--

- Those are high for your--

- All right, everybody behave.

Okay, no more snarky comments.

- I know, I'm not saying anything. I'm just trying to tell you--

- Yeah, get out of here.

Former secretary of state,

Hillary Rodham Clinton.

- All right, I want to introduce you to somebody.

This is you on your wedding day.

- Yeah. -It's October 11, 1975.

if you both had those haircuts right now,

you would be so hip it hurt.

- Yeah, I know, that was our wedding day,

my gosh, it was great.

I followed my heart to Arkansas, I really did.

You know, Bill, was in Arkansas,

and I thought I had to explore

what this relationship meant to me.

- I had this little place out in the country,

outside Fayetteville, it was a little bitty tiny place.

I remember she was visiting me,

I was teaching in law school, and the people

at the law school were much more impressed with her than me.

- And so they offered her a job.

And she, on a flying leap, took it.

- So I said I'm gonna go teach at the law school

and see what I feel like living there.

- I thought she was crazy to move

to Arkansas to be with him.

I understand she fell in love with him,

but everyone else was negotiating where to go,

where their careers could be equal.

- My gosh, I can't believe you're doing this,

you don't know anybody there.

I said, well, I know Bill, and I'll meet other people.

- Could you maybe give it a year or two?

I thought she had so much promise herself.

And clearly the world was her oyster,

I mean she was, she had so many opportunities.

- It was a big decision. - It was a very big decision.

And that's why a lot of my friends were both

surprised by it and not certain about it.

But I also really loved Bill and I really thought

that I had to make a decision.

He was clearly attached to a place

that meant the world to him.

- For most of her people, going to Arkansas,

she might as well have been going to Tasmania, or something,

just the other side of the world.

- I arrived in Fayetteville,

found out I was gonna be teaching criminal law

and criminal procedure, running the legal aid program,

running the prison project program.

I had a big set of assignments.

- We were both teaching and having a good time,

and one day we passed this house.

It was a pretty little place and it was for sale,

and she said, that's a pretty house,

and I said, yeah it really is.

- All I said was, that's a really cute house.

That's all I said.

- I bought the house.

And then I went out and furnished it.

- He was so proud of it, he said well now you have

to marry me because we now have a house.

- I said you can't let me undertake

this grownup investment and move

into this house all by myself.

And she just laughed.

She said, yeah, I guess I will.

And so she finally said yes.

We had a very small wedding with our friends

and a Methodist minister performed the ceremony

in the living room of our home.

I think we filled a deep need for each other.

We were off to the races.

Bill Clinton for attorney general.

- Ladies and gentlemen, I've worked hard

to excel as a lawyer and teacher,

and to acquire the habits and discipline necessary

to be a good attorney general.

And I hope you'll help me in the election.

- Bill gets elected attorney general.

We're gonna move to Little Rock.

He's making $18,000 a year, something like that.

It didn't matter to him, he could have cared less.

I don't know what I'm gonna do, I think I have

to go practice law for both financial reasons,

but also because I wanted to get out there and do it.

- She got a job at the Rose Law Firm,

which is the oldest law firm west of the Mississippi.

And I'm not sure they knew what to make of her either,

but they wanted her.

She was the first woman lawyer at the firm,

and ultimately became a partner.

It didn't come easily.

It took a lot of proving herself, she worked

very, very hard.

- When I was going to court

as a young lawyer, it was a spectacle.

These good old boys would, you know, say, my gosh,

it was like the talking dog.

Look at this, she not only can talk,

she can stand on her hind legs and clap her front paws.

I mean it was so unique.

I remember one trial, the judge says, wow, Miss Rodham,

you just look so pretty, stand up there

and show us how pretty you look today,

just turn around for me, and you know, my eyes are rolling.

- When she came to the bar association,

there were a lot of people that,

there were judges who didn't want her,

they didn't think women should be lawyers to begin with.

And so I tried to introduce her to people that I knew.

Women who were in town that I thought she would

be interested in getting to know.

We would talk about women's rights,

and we talked about just a lot of things.

- I had great friends and friends

who were university professors, you know, physicians.

There was like a growing circle of women

who were, you know, pushing through.

Now we still were dealing with a lot of the attitudes.

The equal rights amendment is a fraud.

This is the way they have built support for ERA.

By telling women that they are mistreated,

that the home is a prison.

- You know, Phyllis Schlafly was out there,

running around the country, basically saying

women should stay in the home.

A woman who never was at her home, but nevertheless,

a woman who was saying you should stay in your home.

- You can do it, you can turn back

this tide all across the country.

- And so we were in real time living a lot of this conflict.

You know it was like Goldilocks,

well be strong, but not too strong.

Be assertive, but not too assertive.

You know all the stuff we live with today.

- At this point, ABC News has projected that the youngest

governor in the United States now will be--

- Can you hear me? - Young Governor Clinton

of the state of Arkansas.

The 40th elected Governor of Arkansas

making his way down the aisle of the state house.

- I became Governor after just

two years as Attorney General.

I was just 32 years old, God I've got

all this responsibility and I've got to do this.

He now is expected to attract

national attention as a handsome articulate

future candidate for president.

But he won't even be old enough

for that job for three years.

- And Frank, we have with us the lady

who will be the First Lady of Arkansas, Hillary Rodham.

Hillary, we know that you are an attorney,

what kind of plans have you made

to be First Lady of Arkansas.

- Well, we spent a lot of time talking

about the kinds of work that we want to do,

and I intend to continue practicing law

because I think that it's important that I both stay

in touch with people other than through political life,

so that I see people in contexts

other than at receptions like this, or people being nice

to me and asking me questions on TV.

And I think it's also something I want to do

because I've worked hard to attain these skills.

- Hillary Rodham, soon to be the First Lady of Arkansas.

Back to you Randy.

- Hillary, to my knowledge was the first First Lady

of the state of Arkansas who had a full-time job

outside of being First Lady.

Of course that was curious to a lot of people,

like, how is this going to work.

- Today we focus on Hillary Rodham,

Arkansas' new First Lady.

The thought occurs to me that you really don't fit

the image that we have created

for the Governor's wife in Arkansas.

You're not a native, you've been educated

in liberal eastern universities.

You're less than 40, you don't have any children,

you don't use your husband's name, you practice law.

Does it concern you that maybe other people

feel that you don't fit the image that we have created

for the governor's wife in Arkansas?

- No, that doesn't bother me.

And I hope that it doesn't bother very many people.

- Hillary encountered opposition

to everything at every turn.

Her hair and her makeup,

and her not having children initially.

And her having, you know, a job.

it was every battle that we had fought at Yale abstractly,

she was actually fighting.

- Of course there were tough days

and ridiculous kinds of attacks, I mean, yeah, of course.

But you know I would shake it off,

I mean I just had to get through it.

But that doesn't mean that it wasn't painful,

and annoying and outraging, because it was all of that.

- I should think you must get very tired

being asked questions about your decision

not to use your husband's name.

- Well I don't get tired of it,

I think it's an understandable question.

- In Arkansas, you just don't keep your own name.

That was talked about.

Anything that she did that was out of the ordinary,

the same, it just expanded.

And that's before Facebook.

- I remember talking to a guy who's a lawyer

in south Arkansas about this.

Who's pretty liberal on everything else,

he's great on civil rights and all, everything.

He said, I know you, you're a real man,

this has gotta be eating you alive.

I said Don, I never think about it unless somebody asks me.

He said I just don't believe you.

And you know, I began to see in a way

I had been frankly tone deaf to.

- Because I grew up in a family where

we liked smart women and it just, it was a different deal.

- Yeah looking back now people go, well, who cares.

I mean that's not a big deal,

but you know, in 1979, 1980, people did care.

- We now have a clarification in the state of Arkansas.

A stunning upset over the incumbent Democrat Bill Clinton.

- And then he lost in 1980, for a number of other reasons.

But that was certainly in the list

that people would put forth.

- Hillary and I have shed a few tears

for our loss of last evening.

But we accept the will of our people with humility.

The loss was really hard, but in a funny way,

I got over it quicker because I had something to live for,

I had Hillary, and Chelsea was born in 1980.

- I had trouble getting pregnant in the beginning,

and a few little scares along the way,

but everything worked out.

We were totally over the moon, happy parents.

- I always desperately wanted to be a father.

I think more desperately than most people

because my father died before I was born,

I never got to know him.

- I didn't really know much about little babies,

but from the moment I met Chelsea,

I was madly, deeply, forever in love.

This is so hard, here you are a political wife,

and you're trying to figure out what

to say to the television cameras.

- I thought I might have a chance

to run for Governor again.

And I told Hillary and I said I think we can do this.

She said I think you can too.

And she was all for it.

- He's told me that he's very close

to making his decision public yes.

- When he decided to run again,

people were urging me to change my name,

that this was so distressing to people.

I've not wanted to upset anybody,

I really thought I was doing it for the right reason.

So I'm thinking of perhaps changing my name to,

I don't know, Martha Washington or something, I mean really.

- You know she felt some responsibility for his loss.

So she then said, okay, if my name is a big issue,

I will take his name.

- Hi ladies, I'm Hillary Clinton,

I hope you can support my husband,

I'm out here working in the sun.

- She said I don't want to be responsible for one lost vote.

It's too important for the future of this state,

we've gotta win this race.

And it's funny I think it was almost like

it relieved people that she gave them something, you know.

It made her concern for them more real.

- I spent a lot of time on the campaign trail,

a lot of time traveling with him.

And then I had some friends say, well, you know,

I've got ideas about your hair and ideas about your clothes.

And my eye doctor said we've got these new

contact lenses, you should try them.

So it was like, okay, I can you know shift a little bit

toward a more expected appearance.

- It appears that we have won.

Bill Clinton,

making a comeback at the age of 36.

- Believe me when I tell you that I am overwhelmed by this,

and I will try always to be worthy of this.

Thank you and God bless you all.

Most people would go out of their way

to avoid a moving day at a household,

but the new First Lady said this time was a lot easier.

This time she knew what to expect.

In between boxes and plants, there was modeling to do,

giving reporters a glimpse of the inaugural gown

she'll wear to ceremonies that more

than 5,000 are expected to attend.

- Here comes my daughter.

Here's your reporter friend.

Hillary Rodham Clinton wants Arkansans

to concentrate now not on her image,

but what she can contribute to bringing the state together.

- When I ran for reelection,

I promised to support a sweeping reform

of the education system because we were way behind.

- Second worst in the nation, and thank god for Mississippi,

'cause Mississippi was always worse than we were.

- We will rewrite the school standards to redefine

the minimum educational requirements we think

every boy and girl in this state is entitled to.

And I have decided to name my wife

Hillary as chairman of that commission.

- He put me in charge of reforming

the state's public education system.

We know it's a huge task but we're very optimistic

that we're going to be able to make a substantial

improvement in what our students receive.

Tonight is the opportunity to tell us

what your ideas are about education.

- She had a great diverse committee,

they had hearings in every county

in the state, all 75 counties.

- We had to convince the public that we're going to make

all these reforms and you're going to pay for it,

we're going to raise your taxes

and you're going to pay for it, and they did that.

Try that today.

- Well we're very glad you could make it today.

Hillary Clinton's

stature has risen to the point

where she is regarded throughout the state

as a kind of modern day folk hero.

- The road to being somebody in this society

starts with education, and we intend to be sure

that every child in this state is somebody.

That they can play a role in this country

and make it the kind of place it needs to be.

- Well, I have to say, after seeing how at ease

you are at that podium, and saying those important things,

and addressing those important issues,

would you run for office, Hillary?

- I don't think so Pat.

I love being involved in politics,

and I love what we can do to try to help people.

But I don't see the possibility myself

of running for office, but I want to stay involved

and work as hard as I can.

- You're not gonna say never though are you.

- I never say never.

- I didn't think so, so we'll be back in a minute

to find out much of what Hillary says

about her public and private life.

I know you don't want

to go as long today, maybe just one more.

- Well we'll see, we'll see how,

I mean, you know, I'm actually.

There's so much to talk about.

- There's so much to talk about, I don't know.

The scandals, the investigations.

- Like, I am the most investigated

innocent person in America.

You know, they are just, you know that's why this is not

just politics, it's deep cultural stuff, and,

anyway, I do want to talk to you about all that.

Yeah, me too. -Okay, anyway.

All right. -Clunk, clunk, here we go.

- I want to push the envelope as far as we can push it.

We ought to give women the support they need

to be full functioning citizens.

- She is both one of the most admired

and one of the most vilified women in American history.

- As long as she has been in public life,

there have been these ups and downs.

- People still believe wacky things about me.

I kill people, I rob people.

- This is all this recipe for years of painful controversy.

- He sat on the side of the bed

and he said "I have to tell you something.

There's a story that's gonna be in the newspaper."

- She said "Well you have to go tell your daughter.

That's worse than me."

- I felt compelled to get up and keep going.

- She was at the tip of the sphere.

- Now she's got bad temper.

She could be crazy.

Bernie just drove me crazy.

It was all just bologna.

- There's not gonna be any October surprises.

- Deal me in!

- This campaign's done.

- The whole thing just blew up.

- What just happened?