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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:03,295 --> 00:00:04,505 I'll make you look, 2 00:00:04,505 --> 00:00:06,173 I want to make you look beautiful-- 3 00:00:06,173 --> 00:00:07,341 Look in the, 4 00:00:07,341 --> 00:00:08,926 where do you want to look, okay? 5 00:00:09,760 --> 00:00:12,095 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 6 00:00:12,095 --> 00:00:13,597 Just all of our people, 7 00:00:13,597 --> 00:00:16,225 our phones are all on stun? 8 00:00:16,225 --> 00:00:17,809 Yes. 9 00:00:17,809 --> 00:00:20,521 For a woman who grew up not seeming to care 10 00:00:20,521 --> 00:00:22,439 what she looked like is this. 11 00:00:22,439 --> 00:00:24,024 - It's a burden, believe me. 12 00:01:00,852 --> 00:01:01,436 - What? 13 00:01:01,436 --> 00:01:02,938 - 60 seconds. 14 00:01:02,938 --> 00:01:04,064 - 60 seconds? 15 00:01:06,483 --> 00:01:07,651 Practically every day, 16 00:01:07,651 --> 00:01:10,862 started with me doing hair and makeup. 17 00:01:10,862 --> 00:01:15,158 There were 600 days give or take in the campaign. 18 00:01:15,158 --> 00:01:17,619 And it was an hour to an hour to a half, 19 00:01:17,619 --> 00:01:18,870 so being really conservative, 20 00:01:18,870 --> 00:01:21,123 say an hour to do hair and makeup. 21 00:01:21,123 --> 00:01:23,083 I calculated it and 22 00:01:23,083 --> 00:01:29,298 I spent 25 days doing hair and makeup. 23 00:01:29,298 --> 00:01:33,302 And I knew that the men I was running against, 24 00:01:33,302 --> 00:01:36,930 didn't have to do any of that. 25 00:01:36,930 --> 00:01:39,349 Get up, take a shower, shake their head, 26 00:01:39,349 --> 00:01:40,934 they were ready to go. 27 00:01:40,934 --> 00:01:42,769 I wanna slop it under your eye. 28 00:01:44,521 --> 00:01:46,565 - This is what I have to put up with. 29 00:01:46,565 --> 00:01:48,567 - That's the real prep. 30 00:01:49,609 --> 00:01:50,235 All right. 31 00:01:50,235 --> 00:01:51,069 - Are you set Huma? 32 00:01:51,069 --> 00:01:52,154 - Yeah, I'm done. - Yeah, yeah. 33 00:01:52,154 --> 00:01:53,238 - I'm good, okay. -Thank you. 34 00:01:53,238 --> 00:01:54,698 - Good, good. 35 00:02:03,081 --> 00:02:04,266 - I think it looks good. 36 00:02:05,917 --> 00:02:07,794 - Well, you can start buttoned and then you know, 37 00:02:07,794 --> 00:02:09,796 when you get wound up, you can unbutton. 38 00:02:11,798 --> 00:02:14,509 Honestly, Bernie just drove me crazy. 39 00:02:14,509 --> 00:02:18,013 He was in Congress for years, years, 40 00:02:18,013 --> 00:02:20,307 he had one Senator support him. 41 00:02:20,307 --> 00:02:22,142 Nobody likes him, 42 00:02:22,142 --> 00:02:22,976 Nobody wants to work with him. 43 00:02:22,976 --> 00:02:24,686 He got nothing done. 44 00:02:24,686 --> 00:02:26,271 He was a career politician. 45 00:02:26,271 --> 00:02:28,273 He did not work until he was like 41, 46 00:02:28,273 --> 00:02:29,941 and then he got elected to something. 47 00:02:29,941 --> 00:02:32,194 It was all just bologna and I feel so bad that people 48 00:02:32,194 --> 00:02:34,696 got sucked into it. 49 00:02:44,414 --> 00:02:46,875 - Our topic is Wall Street for those just joining us. 50 00:02:46,875 --> 00:02:50,045 - I've laid out a very aggressive plan 51 00:02:50,045 --> 00:02:51,421 to reign in Wall Street. 52 00:02:51,421 --> 00:02:52,339 Not good enough. 53 00:02:54,758 --> 00:02:57,219 Why over her political career, 54 00:02:57,219 --> 00:03:00,180 has Wall Street been a major, the major 55 00:03:00,180 --> 00:03:02,891 campaign contributor to Hillary Clinton? 56 00:03:04,267 --> 00:03:06,853 Now maybe their dumb and they don't know what they're 57 00:03:06,853 --> 00:03:08,397 gonna get, but I don't think so. 58 00:03:08,397 --> 00:03:10,941 John, John, wait a minute, wait a minute. 59 00:03:10,941 --> 00:03:15,737 Look, he has basically, he has basically used his answer to 60 00:03:15,737 --> 00:03:17,239 impune my integrity. 61 00:03:17,239 --> 00:03:18,240 Let's be frank here. 62 00:03:18,240 --> 00:03:20,409 SEN. SANDERS No, I did not. -Wait a minute Senator. 63 00:03:20,409 --> 00:03:22,244 - Bernie was getting increasingly negative 64 00:03:22,244 --> 00:03:23,120 towards Hillary. 65 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:27,749 What he did was go out there everyday and basically say, 66 00:03:27,749 --> 00:03:29,084 Hillary Clinton is corrupt. 67 00:03:30,627 --> 00:03:32,462 Over and over and over again. 68 00:03:35,590 --> 00:03:37,050 The latest poll among likely caucus goers 69 00:03:37,050 --> 00:03:40,637 in Iowa showing Sanders closing in on Hillary Clinton 70 00:03:40,637 --> 00:03:42,139 in the Hawkeye state. 71 00:03:42,139 --> 00:03:44,599 And that has her campaign admitting they are nervous. 72 00:03:44,599 --> 00:03:45,892 - Thank you. 73 00:03:47,269 --> 00:03:50,856 Iowa has never been particularly receptive to me. 74 00:03:50,856 --> 00:03:57,946 You know, in 2008, it was not at all. 75 00:03:57,946 --> 00:04:01,366 And by 2016, it was tough. 76 00:04:01,366 --> 00:04:03,702 It was tough in part because it was so close 77 00:04:03,702 --> 00:04:06,872 and we were fighting for every vote and every delegate. 78 00:04:06,872 --> 00:04:09,458 - I was a huge Bernie Sanders supporter, 79 00:04:09,458 --> 00:04:12,919 but now I think you have me convinced to caucus for you. 80 00:04:12,919 --> 00:04:14,129 - Thank you. 81 00:04:14,129 --> 00:04:15,672 That means the world to me, thank you. 82 00:04:15,672 --> 00:04:19,676 Our brand new poll shows Hillary Clinton 83 00:04:19,676 --> 00:04:23,096 and Bernie Sanders locked in a virtual tie in Iowa. 84 00:04:23,096 --> 00:04:25,265 Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders, 85 00:04:25,265 --> 00:04:27,934 they are clearly in a close race right now. 86 00:04:27,934 --> 00:04:29,936 First of all, what we see on the republican. 87 00:04:29,936 --> 00:04:30,937 Fuck! 88 00:04:31,813 --> 00:04:33,421 We all lost. 89 00:04:33,421 --> 00:04:34,739 I lost! 90 00:04:34,739 --> 00:04:36,735 She's up again. 91 00:04:36,735 --> 00:04:39,863 Once inevitable Hillary Clinton 92 00:04:39,863 --> 00:04:43,200 neck and neck right now with Vermont Senator Bernie Sanders. 93 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:46,495 Is that race still too close to project? 94 00:04:46,495 --> 00:04:47,913 We have team coverage on that. 95 00:04:47,913 --> 00:04:50,499 - This is a nail biter. 96 00:04:53,210 --> 00:04:54,795 So we gotta think what we're gonna do. 97 00:04:54,795 --> 00:04:57,881 Think about how we're gonna play it, 98 00:04:57,881 --> 00:04:59,341 what we're gonna say, 99 00:04:59,341 --> 00:05:02,052 when we're gonna do whatever it is we're gonna do. 100 00:05:02,052 --> 00:05:02,969 Well, we started telling people 101 00:05:02,969 --> 00:05:03,845 in the background. 102 00:05:03,845 --> 00:05:05,263 - What? 103 00:05:11,228 --> 00:05:13,605 - Yeah, well, but we have to decide if we're gonna 104 00:05:13,605 --> 00:05:16,525 go out and say that, even though everything's not in. 105 00:05:16,525 --> 00:05:20,028 And you know, what the consequences of that are, 106 00:05:20,028 --> 00:05:24,199 if we go out, we say it, and then you know, 107 00:05:24,199 --> 00:05:25,700 we end up behind. 108 00:05:25,700 --> 00:05:26,910 Right. 109 00:05:26,910 --> 00:05:28,411 - I just don't want him to get out and claim 110 00:05:28,411 --> 00:05:31,039 the revolution is working, people felt the burn, 111 00:05:31,039 --> 00:05:33,959 we're on the way, we're gonna win this, 112 00:05:33,959 --> 00:05:35,585 that's what if I were he. 113 00:05:35,585 --> 00:05:36,837 He's gonna do that. 114 00:05:36,837 --> 00:05:37,671 - That's what I, 115 00:05:37,671 --> 00:05:39,172 he should do it. 116 00:05:39,172 --> 00:05:41,007 This is gonna be like a half a point either way, 117 00:05:41,007 --> 00:05:43,593 so it's not just gonna change fundamentally. 118 00:05:44,511 --> 00:05:46,096 Okay, let's figure it out. 119 00:06:01,152 --> 00:06:03,071 So, I'm just gonna drop one second, 120 00:06:03,071 --> 00:06:05,323 'cause it's gotten ... 121 00:06:05,323 --> 00:06:06,783 Closer. 122 00:06:06,783 --> 00:06:09,327 He's basically her but what's top of mind, 123 00:06:09,327 --> 00:06:11,746 what has her pacing up and down the hall 124 00:06:11,746 --> 00:06:15,083 is she doesn't want him out first. 125 00:06:15,083 --> 00:06:17,627 They said he was gonna call, which obviously, 126 00:06:17,627 --> 00:06:18,879 we're holding the phone. 127 00:06:18,879 --> 00:06:20,130 I mean, they said he was gonna call, 128 00:06:20,130 --> 00:06:21,214 that hasn't happened. 129 00:06:21,214 --> 00:06:23,091 She's just gonna freak out. 130 00:06:23,091 --> 00:06:24,551 This thing, it's just so close. 131 00:06:24,551 --> 00:06:26,219 I think we just, if he's ... 132 00:06:26,219 --> 00:06:29,472 We believe he's gonna go out before 11 P. M. 133 00:06:29,472 --> 00:06:31,308 And say he declared victory, 134 00:06:31,308 --> 00:06:32,726 whether he wins or not. 135 00:06:32,726 --> 00:06:34,436 Right, he's just done so well that he's gonna-- 136 00:06:34,436 --> 00:06:36,062 So she should go speak right now. 137 00:06:36,062 --> 00:06:36,897 We, she should go right now. 138 00:06:36,897 --> 00:06:37,939 - Let's go! 139 00:06:37,939 --> 00:06:40,025 All right, let's go. 140 00:06:48,199 --> 00:06:51,703 - What a night, an unbelievable night! 141 00:06:51,703 --> 00:06:53,997 Breathing a big sigh of relief. 142 00:06:53,997 --> 00:06:56,166 Thank you Iowa. 143 00:06:59,252 --> 00:07:00,086 Okay. 144 00:07:11,222 --> 00:07:13,266 But it's that much. 145 00:07:13,266 --> 00:07:14,267 It's a win. 146 00:07:14,267 --> 00:07:15,518 Hey guys, 147 00:07:15,518 --> 00:07:16,186 we're gonna take off to New Hampshire, 148 00:07:16,186 --> 00:07:16,978 we gotta go. 149 00:07:16,978 --> 00:07:19,481 Yeah, I got it. 150 00:07:19,481 --> 00:07:21,316 Go Hillary, yeah! 151 00:07:21,316 --> 00:07:23,818 Okay, here we go. Thank you! 152 00:07:26,071 --> 00:07:28,323 After beating Bernie Sanders in Iowa, 153 00:07:28,323 --> 00:07:30,075 by a razor thin margin, 154 00:07:30,075 --> 00:07:32,494 Hillary Clinton has come to the granite state 155 00:07:32,494 --> 00:07:36,331 as the underdog trailing Sanders by 18 points. 156 00:07:37,749 --> 00:07:40,794 - The mood was really bleak in those days in New Hampshire 157 00:07:40,794 --> 00:07:42,045 right after Iowa. 158 00:07:42,045 --> 00:07:43,963 Many critics, and even some democrats 159 00:07:43,963 --> 00:07:46,049 who are on the fence about voting for you say 160 00:07:46,049 --> 00:07:48,385 they don't trust you. 161 00:07:48,385 --> 00:07:50,845 - They do not believe that you are honest. 162 00:07:50,845 --> 00:07:53,473 They have issues with your trustworthiness. 163 00:07:53,473 --> 00:07:54,474 - We don't trust her. 164 00:07:54,474 --> 00:07:58,520 Okay. 165 00:07:58,520 --> 00:08:01,731 - I think it really drove the Clinton campaign crazy 166 00:08:01,731 --> 00:08:04,275 that she was the first woman to win the Iowa caucus 167 00:08:04,275 --> 00:08:05,777 and it was like it didn't even happen. 168 00:08:05,777 --> 00:08:08,780 I mean, everybody just talked about how well Bernie did. 169 00:08:16,788 --> 00:08:18,456 -. 170 00:08:18,456 --> 00:08:20,375 - And there she is in Bernie's backyard in New Hampshire 171 00:08:20,375 --> 00:08:23,002 knowing that she's gonna lose by a lot. 172 00:08:24,254 --> 00:08:25,755 - You know, when you know you're gonna lose, 173 00:08:25,755 --> 00:08:27,757 it's really hard to campaign. 174 00:08:27,757 --> 00:08:31,678 This is my favorite part of any kind of campaign. 175 00:08:33,096 --> 00:08:34,431 - No, I don't want to! 176 00:08:36,725 --> 00:08:38,852 I don't want to. 177 00:08:38,852 --> 00:08:39,769 It's a lot happening. 178 00:08:39,769 --> 00:08:41,020 - I know, it's pretty okay. 179 00:08:41,020 --> 00:08:42,313 I feel that way a lot. 180 00:08:43,398 --> 00:08:44,816 Thank you so much. 181 00:09:30,028 --> 00:09:33,323 - You know, I just gutted it out. 182 00:09:33,323 --> 00:09:36,117 You've got about 20 seconds here guys. 183 00:09:40,830 --> 00:09:43,958 - She very much wanted to go on an offense against Bernie. 184 00:09:43,958 --> 00:09:46,252 If you're out there on the campaign trail everyday, 185 00:09:46,252 --> 00:09:48,421 and you're opponent is saying you're corrupt, 186 00:09:48,421 --> 00:09:50,507 you're in the pocket of corporate interests. 187 00:09:50,507 --> 00:09:53,676 She wanted to stand up and defend herself. 188 00:09:55,011 --> 00:09:58,681 There is this attack that he is putting forth. 189 00:09:58,681 --> 00:10:03,353 Which really comes down to anybody who ever took donations 190 00:10:03,353 --> 00:10:07,357 or speaking fees from any interest group, 191 00:10:07,357 --> 00:10:10,235 has to be bought. 192 00:10:10,235 --> 00:10:13,154 And I just absolutely reject that Senator. 193 00:10:13,154 --> 00:10:14,572 And enough is enough. 194 00:10:14,572 --> 00:10:18,326 It's time to end the very artful smear that you and your 195 00:10:18,326 --> 00:10:20,036 campaign have been carrying 196 00:10:20,036 --> 00:10:24,999 out in recent weeks and let's talk about the issues. 197 00:10:26,126 --> 00:10:28,545 Let's talk about the issues that divide us. 198 00:10:28,545 --> 00:10:29,838 Let's talk about issues. 199 00:10:29,838 --> 00:10:30,797 Let's talk about issues. 200 00:10:30,797 --> 00:10:32,715 - Senator Sanders, Secretary Clinton, 201 00:10:32,715 --> 00:10:34,050 obviously, we've touched a nerve. 202 00:10:34,050 --> 00:10:36,010 - I think it's good. 203 00:10:36,010 --> 00:10:37,720 I think she's been killing, 204 00:10:37,720 --> 00:10:39,055 she's getting her point across. 205 00:10:39,055 --> 00:10:40,890 Good for calling him out on the insinuation. 206 00:10:40,890 --> 00:10:42,559 - Next question here for Secretary Clinton, 207 00:10:42,559 --> 00:10:43,351 it's addressed to you. 208 00:10:43,351 --> 00:10:45,645 And it's about this issue of the speeches, 209 00:10:45,645 --> 00:10:47,355 particularly to Goldman Sachs. 210 00:10:47,355 --> 00:10:50,275 She asked whether you would release the transcripts 211 00:10:50,275 --> 00:10:52,360 of your Goldman Sachs speeches. 212 00:10:52,360 --> 00:10:54,279 Don't you think the voting public has a right to know 213 00:10:54,279 --> 00:10:56,239 what was said? 214 00:10:56,239 --> 00:10:57,699 But let's make that bigger. 215 00:10:57,699 --> 00:10:59,701 Are you willing to release the transcripts of all 216 00:10:59,701 --> 00:11:00,618 your paid speeches? 217 00:11:00,618 --> 00:11:01,870 Would you release all of them? 218 00:11:01,870 --> 00:11:03,371 - I will look into it. 219 00:11:03,371 --> 00:11:05,790 I don't know the status but I will certainly look into it. 220 00:11:05,790 --> 00:11:07,709 - You have a whole fucking two hour debate 221 00:11:07,709 --> 00:11:10,420 that's all just gonna be fuckin' where's your transcripts? 222 00:11:10,420 --> 00:11:11,546 Yeah, agreed. 223 00:11:11,546 --> 00:11:12,964 - Man. 224 00:11:18,553 --> 00:11:19,721 She has no idea. 225 00:11:19,721 --> 00:11:20,722 Why would she know? 226 00:11:30,064 --> 00:11:32,233 That's what I said earlier today, Brian. 227 00:11:33,401 --> 00:11:35,403 Why during the debates 228 00:11:35,403 --> 00:11:37,572 when you were asked to release the transcripts 229 00:11:37,572 --> 00:11:38,573 of the Wall Street speeches, 230 00:11:38,573 --> 00:11:40,491 why did you not want to do it? 231 00:11:40,491 --> 00:11:42,827 - You know I wanted to force him to release his tax returns. 232 00:11:42,827 --> 00:11:46,331 So I made it a trade. 233 00:11:46,331 --> 00:11:48,416 You release your speeches, we'll release our speeches. 234 00:11:48,416 --> 00:11:50,251 You release your tax returns, we'll release our speeches. 235 00:11:50,251 --> 00:11:52,462 And maybe, I dug my heels in thinking, 236 00:11:52,462 --> 00:11:54,964 you know, this is ridiculous. 237 00:11:56,248 --> 00:11:58,218 - Like what are we doing when she's having to release 238 00:11:58,218 --> 00:11:59,719 all our shit, enough! 239 00:11:59,719 --> 00:12:02,222 - This is like, in all seriousness, 240 00:12:02,222 --> 00:12:04,599 I think there's some legitimate reporters 241 00:12:04,599 --> 00:12:05,808 that would say, fine. 242 00:12:05,808 --> 00:12:08,269 But for $200,000 for a couple of hours, 243 00:12:08,269 --> 00:12:10,021 it's not crazy to say, 244 00:12:10,021 --> 00:12:12,357 "What exactly did you say?". 245 00:12:12,357 --> 00:12:14,442 - I made speeches to the Camping Association. 246 00:12:14,442 --> 00:12:16,110 I made speeches to Doctors. 247 00:12:16,110 --> 00:12:19,364 I made, that's how I made some money when I got out of 248 00:12:19,364 --> 00:12:21,699 being in the State Department. 249 00:12:21,699 --> 00:12:23,534 I didn't go on somebody's board. 250 00:12:23,534 --> 00:12:25,620 I didn't sign up to lobby for somebody. 251 00:12:25,620 --> 00:12:27,705 I didn't take one of these phony jobs, 252 00:12:27,705 --> 00:12:29,374 where you're fronting for a corporation. 253 00:12:29,374 --> 00:12:30,333 I didn't do any of that. 254 00:12:30,333 --> 00:12:31,251 I gave a speech for an hour. 255 00:12:31,251 --> 00:12:31,918 And they paid me. 256 00:12:31,918 --> 00:12:34,963 - You know if you live your life worrying about optics 257 00:12:34,963 --> 00:12:36,631 too much, it can consume you. 258 00:12:36,631 --> 00:12:40,927 And you become this, you get yourself tied up in knots. 259 00:12:40,927 --> 00:12:46,659 But she's giving speeches to Wall Street at time 260 00:12:46,659 --> 00:12:51,302 when they had gotten federal money to bail them out. 261 00:12:51,302 --> 00:12:53,398 To put yourself in a position to be seen 262 00:12:53,398 --> 00:12:57,568 as being too close to them was a mistake. 263 00:12:59,654 --> 00:13:01,823 - It's a fundamental thing, the Clintons. 264 00:13:01,823 --> 00:13:04,575 She thinks I can't be corrupted or compromised 265 00:13:04,575 --> 00:13:06,077 because of a speech. 266 00:13:06,077 --> 00:13:09,872 There is this sense that she knows that she is an ethic 267 00:13:09,872 --> 00:13:12,834 and moral righteous person and therefore, 268 00:13:12,834 --> 00:13:15,712 if she decided this is an okay thing to do 269 00:13:15,712 --> 00:13:17,130 then it's okay. 270 00:13:17,130 --> 00:13:18,798 And anybody who criticizes it must be doing so 271 00:13:18,798 --> 00:13:20,300 for illegitimate reasons. 272 00:13:20,300 --> 00:13:23,636 Because they're partisan, they're enemies. 273 00:13:23,636 --> 00:13:27,974 She's a very, she's supremely confident 274 00:13:27,974 --> 00:13:32,228 in her own righteousness. 275 00:13:32,228 --> 00:13:34,731 And that can blind anyone. 276 00:13:34,731 --> 00:13:37,358 That could trip anybody up. 277 00:13:43,865 --> 00:13:45,033 Thank you for supporting us. 278 00:13:45,033 --> 00:13:46,284 I just spoke. 279 00:13:46,284 --> 00:13:47,535 - Thank you, I'm grateful. 280 00:13:47,535 --> 00:13:49,203 - A divided household. 281 00:13:51,456 --> 00:13:53,374 - You'll come to the right side. 282 00:13:53,374 --> 00:13:54,792 In November. 283 00:14:03,384 --> 00:14:05,178 How are you? 284 00:14:08,723 --> 00:14:12,769 - When we lost by 22 points it really settled in, 285 00:14:12,769 --> 00:14:15,772 this was going to be a slog. 286 00:14:15,772 --> 00:14:20,109 The primary season was not going to be a short path 287 00:14:20,109 --> 00:14:20,860 to the nomination. 288 00:14:20,860 --> 00:14:24,614 It was going to be a grind, primary by primary, 289 00:14:24,614 --> 00:14:26,491 caucus by caucus. 290 00:14:26,491 --> 00:14:28,993 And we were already tired. 291 00:14:28,993 --> 00:14:30,495 - Just call him now. 292 00:14:30,495 --> 00:14:32,830 Huma worked out with them that-- 293 00:14:36,542 --> 00:14:37,794 We are. 294 00:14:37,794 --> 00:14:42,298 - The difference in this race. 295 00:14:42,298 --> 00:14:44,884 I was like is this what 2008 felt like, Huma? 296 00:14:44,884 --> 00:14:46,636 She said, yeah. 297 00:14:46,636 --> 00:14:47,804 This is what it felt like. 298 00:14:47,804 --> 00:14:49,138 We're gonna lose. 299 00:14:49,138 --> 00:14:51,307 She and John were like, we're gonna lose. 300 00:14:51,307 --> 00:14:53,101 We're going to lose the democratic primary. 301 00:14:53,101 --> 00:14:55,770 Bernie Sanders is gonna be the democratic nominee. 302 00:14:55,770 --> 00:15:00,024 - You guys could not have been more supportive. 303 00:15:00,024 --> 00:15:01,859 You guys did everything you could. 304 00:15:01,859 --> 00:15:03,736 We got hit by a gale force wind. 305 00:15:13,621 --> 00:15:17,041 - Did you feel that this election was different 306 00:15:17,041 --> 00:15:19,418 than any that you had participated in before? 307 00:15:19,418 --> 00:15:21,420 Or did you feel it was it on a different level even 308 00:15:21,420 --> 00:15:23,464 than your '92 election. 309 00:15:23,464 --> 00:15:26,467 - My '92 election, and the '92 election was, 310 00:15:26,467 --> 00:15:28,344 it was a popular selection, 311 00:15:28,344 --> 00:15:29,679 but it wasn't insane. 312 00:15:31,305 --> 00:15:33,975 But it was more about positive populism. 313 00:15:41,816 --> 00:15:44,235 - Bill had served five terms as Governor. 314 00:15:44,235 --> 00:15:47,655 And was thinking about the Presidency. 315 00:15:47,655 --> 00:15:50,199 Anybody who knew him, knew he would do it eventually. 316 00:15:50,199 --> 00:15:52,743 It was just a question of what was the best timing. 317 00:15:54,328 --> 00:15:57,165 And when everybody thought after the first Gulf War, 318 00:15:57,165 --> 00:16:00,458 that George H. W. Bush was absolutely unbeatable. 319 00:16:00,458 --> 00:16:02,170 I thought he could be beaten. 320 00:16:02,170 --> 00:16:04,213 The economy was shaky. 321 00:16:04,213 --> 00:16:05,965 Debt was rising. 322 00:16:05,965 --> 00:16:09,260 There were pieces of the American dream 323 00:16:09,260 --> 00:16:11,679 that were battered. 324 00:16:13,389 --> 00:16:15,725 - I got a call from a guy I knew in Bush's White House. 325 00:16:15,725 --> 00:16:16,976 And he said, you don't wanna run now, 326 00:16:16,976 --> 00:16:19,395 just wait til '96 and you'll win. 327 00:16:19,395 --> 00:16:22,064 - And he basically said to Bill, 328 00:16:22,064 --> 00:16:27,028 We've looked at the field and we think we can beat 329 00:16:27,028 --> 00:16:29,864 everybody but we think you'd be the hardest to beat. 330 00:16:29,864 --> 00:16:34,033 And I am authorized to tell you 331 00:16:34,033 --> 00:16:38,041 that it's our advise to you that you not run. 332 00:16:38,041 --> 00:16:41,418 That you wait and you run in four years. 333 00:16:41,418 --> 00:16:45,338 But if you do run, we will destroy you. 334 00:16:45,338 --> 00:16:47,673 - He said this is the way Washington works. 335 00:16:47,673 --> 00:16:51,177 The press has to have someone at every election. 336 00:16:51,177 --> 00:16:53,763 And we're gonna give 'em you. 337 00:16:53,763 --> 00:16:55,932 We're gonna fill those their heads full of so much stuff 338 00:16:55,932 --> 00:16:57,600 you won't believe it. 339 00:16:57,600 --> 00:16:59,101 And you will not survive it. 340 00:16:59,101 --> 00:17:01,729 We're gonna take you out and we're gonna do it early. 341 00:17:02,647 --> 00:17:05,483 So I told Hillary about it. 342 00:17:05,483 --> 00:17:08,945 I said, you realize what this means don't you. 343 00:17:08,945 --> 00:17:10,321 They will keep their word. 344 00:17:11,489 --> 00:17:13,908 And they will make our lives miserable. 345 00:17:13,908 --> 00:17:18,913 And they will do things we can't even imagine. 346 00:17:23,960 --> 00:17:26,963 Well, she said, if you can be bullied out of the race, 347 00:17:26,963 --> 00:17:28,798 you have no business being president. 348 00:17:30,466 --> 00:17:33,427 - And I basically said, well, they clearly think 349 00:17:33,427 --> 00:17:35,763 you can beat him, so you gotta run now. 350 00:17:35,763 --> 00:17:37,890 - For 12 years, the republicans have tried 351 00:17:37,890 --> 00:17:39,433 to divide us. 352 00:17:39,433 --> 00:17:42,103 They want us to be angry at each other so we won't be 353 00:17:42,103 --> 00:17:43,646 mad at them. 354 00:17:45,106 --> 00:17:48,317 They want us to look at each other across a racial divide, 355 00:17:49,777 --> 00:17:51,696 fixated on one another so we cannot turn our heads 356 00:17:51,696 --> 00:17:54,115 and look to the White House and say, 357 00:17:54,115 --> 00:17:56,701 why are all our incomes going down? 358 00:17:56,701 --> 00:17:58,828 What is happening to all of our jobs? 359 00:17:58,828 --> 00:18:01,455 Why are we all losing our future? 360 00:18:02,873 --> 00:18:07,420 I believe that together we can make America great again. 361 00:18:11,007 --> 00:18:14,260 And that is why today, I proudly announce my candidacy 362 00:18:14,260 --> 00:18:16,345 for President of the United States of America. 363 00:18:23,644 --> 00:18:26,022 - It seemed to me that he was the most liberal, 364 00:18:26,022 --> 00:18:27,732 electable candidate. 365 00:18:27,732 --> 00:18:29,233 And I was very impressed with Hillary. 366 00:18:29,233 --> 00:18:31,485 It was clear that she would play much more than 367 00:18:31,485 --> 00:18:33,487 a ceremonial spousal role. 368 00:18:33,487 --> 00:18:37,825 - We believe in this country and we cannot stand by 369 00:18:37,825 --> 00:18:41,579 for one more year and watch what is happening to it. 370 00:18:41,579 --> 00:18:44,373 - She was in need of a press secretary. 371 00:18:44,373 --> 00:18:48,044 Traditionally, in politics in those days, 372 00:18:48,044 --> 00:18:50,338 you were always aspiring to be 373 00:18:50,338 --> 00:18:53,716 the press secretary to the candidate. 374 00:18:53,716 --> 00:18:56,969 And I thought, this is really different. 375 00:18:56,969 --> 00:18:58,346 - Yes! 376 00:18:58,346 --> 00:19:01,015 - She wasn't only a surrogate. 377 00:19:01,015 --> 00:19:04,477 She was involved in the strategy of the campaign. 378 00:19:04,477 --> 00:19:06,562 Those who know her best say she has an 379 00:19:06,562 --> 00:19:08,939 uncommonly good sense of political strategy. 380 00:19:08,939 --> 00:19:12,693 When to push, when to wait, who to trust, 381 00:19:12,693 --> 00:19:13,903 who to pressure. 382 00:19:13,903 --> 00:19:16,113 - She's critical to the campaign. 383 00:19:16,113 --> 00:19:18,449 We often joke that our campaign slogan should be, 384 00:19:18,449 --> 00:19:20,368 buy one, get one free. 385 00:19:20,368 --> 00:19:23,245 It was true that she had been a full partner 386 00:19:23,245 --> 00:19:24,747 in what I did as Governor. 387 00:19:24,747 --> 00:19:27,041 That the voters were fully aware of it, 388 00:19:27,041 --> 00:19:29,335 and fully, they will vote for or against it 389 00:19:29,335 --> 00:19:30,920 if they didn't want to. 390 00:19:30,920 --> 00:19:33,005 So the Clinton's are running as a team. 391 00:19:33,005 --> 00:19:35,341 And reporters frequently hear people in the crowd 392 00:19:35,341 --> 00:19:37,510 say they think the wrong Clinton is running. 393 00:19:37,510 --> 00:19:39,345 - Why aren't you running? 394 00:19:39,345 --> 00:19:41,764 - There is a draft Hillary movement. 395 00:19:41,764 --> 00:19:43,224 You know that. 396 00:19:43,224 --> 00:19:47,186 - I remember rallies and just all of these young women. 397 00:19:47,186 --> 00:19:52,233 They went out and it was like it's Hillary. 398 00:19:53,651 --> 00:19:55,611 She's been an activist for children's issues 399 00:19:55,611 --> 00:19:57,405 and is a successful lawyer, 400 00:19:57,405 --> 00:20:00,241 she makes three times as much as her husband. 401 00:20:00,241 --> 00:20:03,077 - Her coming onto the public stage really brought 402 00:20:03,077 --> 00:20:08,082 to the forefront feminism and women's roles in society. 403 00:20:08,666 --> 00:20:10,126 - I am who I am. 404 00:20:10,126 --> 00:20:11,794 I'm not about to change who I am or what I have been 405 00:20:11,794 --> 00:20:13,879 for all my life. 406 00:20:13,879 --> 00:20:16,132 We need an end to the politics of abortion. 407 00:20:16,132 --> 00:20:18,634 We oughta give women the kind of support they need 408 00:20:18,634 --> 00:20:21,429 to support themselves, their families, 409 00:20:21,429 --> 00:20:23,389 and be full functioning citizens. 410 00:20:23,389 --> 00:20:26,308 - She was that Rorschach Test for that discussion 411 00:20:26,308 --> 00:20:28,644 in every household about, 412 00:20:28,644 --> 00:20:30,730 what is the role of women in our society 413 00:20:30,730 --> 00:20:33,226 and should the have careers? Or should they not have careers? 414 00:20:33,226 --> 00:20:35,434 Or should they stay home and raise families? 415 00:20:35,434 --> 00:20:38,362 - She very much became a symbol, a cultural symbol. 416 00:20:38,362 --> 00:20:41,991 We didn't hide that light under a bushel. 417 00:20:41,991 --> 00:20:43,868 We shone a light on her because I just thought 418 00:20:43,868 --> 00:20:46,203 she was the most impressive person I'd ever met in my life. 419 00:20:46,203 --> 00:20:47,538 Like this is great. 420 00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:51,125 And from the first day of the campaign, 421 00:20:51,125 --> 00:20:54,420 she was absolutely central to the strategy 422 00:20:54,420 --> 00:20:57,590 but also to the execution and the survival 423 00:20:57,590 --> 00:20:58,799 when we were in trouble. 424 00:21:02,261 --> 00:21:05,431 - Yes, I was Bill Clinton's lover for 12 years. 425 00:21:05,431 --> 00:21:09,268 And for the past two years I have lied to the press 426 00:21:09,268 --> 00:21:11,270 about our relationship to protect him. 427 00:21:14,648 --> 00:21:17,067 The truth is, I loved him. 428 00:21:18,527 --> 00:21:19,987 Allegations of infidelity have dogged 429 00:21:19,987 --> 00:21:21,697 Bill Clinton for some time. 430 00:21:21,697 --> 00:21:24,241 - Have you ever had an extramarital affair Governor? 431 00:21:24,241 --> 00:21:26,994 - If I had, I wouldn't tell you. 432 00:21:26,994 --> 00:21:29,163 It was all over the tabloids. 433 00:21:29,163 --> 00:21:30,664 Bill Clinton, 434 00:21:30,664 --> 00:21:31,707 who I guess was the front runner of the democrats, 435 00:21:31,707 --> 00:21:33,459 is in a little trouble here. 436 00:21:33,459 --> 00:21:34,877 Stories about their relationship, 437 00:21:34,877 --> 00:21:38,631 his extra-curricular activities, it was crazy. 438 00:21:38,631 --> 00:21:43,052 - Everybody had heard the rumors about Bill Clinton. 439 00:21:43,052 --> 00:21:48,808 And everybody wondered, how Hillary Clinton dealt with it. 440 00:21:48,808 --> 00:21:50,976 Did you ever discuss it with Hillary 441 00:21:50,976 --> 00:21:52,061 or was it too much? 442 00:21:52,061 --> 00:21:52,978 - Nope. 443 00:21:52,978 --> 00:21:54,688 - And she never brought it up? 444 00:21:54,688 --> 00:21:58,692 - No, she doesn't, she is not a confider. 445 00:21:58,692 --> 00:22:00,402 Let me just tell you. 446 00:22:00,402 --> 00:22:04,698 - I think that we were, by no means, perfect. 447 00:22:04,698 --> 00:22:08,452 We had challenges like any married couple would have. 448 00:22:08,452 --> 00:22:11,372 I'm not gonna go any further than that. 449 00:22:12,248 --> 00:22:13,958 In our Clinton world, 450 00:22:13,958 --> 00:22:16,252 there was always a question. 451 00:22:16,252 --> 00:22:18,671 Not had he been faithful to his wife? 452 00:22:18,671 --> 00:22:20,506 He'd already told us he hadn't been. 453 00:22:20,506 --> 00:22:23,259 But were these stories true? 454 00:22:23,259 --> 00:22:25,928 And frankly, to this day, I don't know what's true, 455 00:22:25,928 --> 00:22:27,680 and what isn't true. 456 00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:29,598 Do you have any comments about the allegations 457 00:22:29,598 --> 00:22:30,850 from Gennifer Flowers? 458 00:22:30,850 --> 00:22:33,352 - There were hundred of reporters, camera crews, 459 00:22:33,352 --> 00:22:35,855 and boom microphones and camera men back peddling 460 00:22:35,855 --> 00:22:37,106 and falling into each other, 461 00:22:37,106 --> 00:22:40,067 and she had this look of a trapped animal. 462 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:45,072 She was being hunted for some kind of response. 463 00:22:46,949 --> 00:22:48,242 - I am a private person. 464 00:22:49,618 --> 00:22:51,787 But I think it's important to be a private person 465 00:22:51,787 --> 00:22:53,289 if you're in the public arena. 466 00:22:54,623 --> 00:23:00,453 Because the crushing intensity of total wall to wall 467 00:23:00,453 --> 00:23:02,715 coverage, the expectation that you share 468 00:23:02,715 --> 00:23:06,552 your innermost feelings with people. 469 00:23:06,552 --> 00:23:10,806 Is there anything left if you've basically lived 470 00:23:10,806 --> 00:23:12,391 everything out in public? 471 00:23:13,559 --> 00:23:15,311 - We wanted him to answer it. 472 00:23:15,311 --> 00:23:17,646 Not to disparage anyone else. 473 00:23:17,646 --> 00:23:20,357 But to simply say, here's why we're gonna persevere. 474 00:23:22,693 --> 00:23:26,822 CBS said, we'll create a special edition of 60 minutes, 475 00:23:26,822 --> 00:23:29,533 butted up against the Super Bowl. 476 00:23:29,533 --> 00:23:31,035 The biggest audience possible. 477 00:23:32,703 --> 00:23:35,456 - It was ridiculous to me. 478 00:23:35,456 --> 00:23:39,335 It was a decision that the campaign made, 479 00:23:39,335 --> 00:23:41,462 that it would make sense. 480 00:23:41,462 --> 00:23:46,467 I thought it was a big invasion of our privacy. 481 00:23:46,467 --> 00:23:48,761 I didn't understand why we would do it. 482 00:23:48,761 --> 00:23:50,012 Bill decided to it. 483 00:23:50,012 --> 00:23:52,681 So I said, okay, I'll do it. 484 00:23:52,681 --> 00:23:55,142 - I think most American's would agree that it's very 485 00:23:55,142 --> 00:23:57,770 admirable that you have stayed together, 486 00:23:57,770 --> 00:23:59,396 that you worked your problems out, 487 00:23:59,396 --> 00:24:02,066 that you seem to have reached some sort of an understanding 488 00:24:02,066 --> 00:24:03,525 and an arrangement. 489 00:24:03,525 --> 00:24:06,820 - Wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute, 490 00:24:06,820 --> 00:24:09,073 you're looking at two people who love each other. 491 00:24:09,073 --> 00:24:11,492 This is not an arrangement or an understanding, 492 00:24:11,492 --> 00:24:13,243 this is a marriage. 493 00:24:13,243 --> 00:24:15,496 That's a very different thing. 494 00:24:15,496 --> 00:24:17,873 - I'm not sitting here some little woman standing 495 00:24:17,873 --> 00:24:20,042 by my man like Tammy Wynette. 496 00:24:20,042 --> 00:24:22,127 I'm sitting here because I love him 497 00:24:22,127 --> 00:24:25,547 and I respect him, and I honor what he's been through 498 00:24:25,547 --> 00:24:26,882 and what we've been through together. 499 00:24:26,882 --> 00:24:29,551 And you know if that's not enough for people, 500 00:24:29,551 --> 00:24:31,804 then, heck, don't vote for him. 501 00:24:31,804 --> 00:24:34,640 - If she's not there, sitting next to him, 502 00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:38,227 validating him, that's the end. 503 00:24:38,227 --> 00:24:40,729 And instead, she's telling the public, look, 504 00:24:40,729 --> 00:24:42,856 whatever problems we've had in our marriage, 505 00:24:42,856 --> 00:24:44,024 I've dealt with them. 506 00:24:44,024 --> 00:24:45,192 Therefore, you don't need to worry about them 507 00:24:45,192 --> 00:24:46,193 and that was enough. 508 00:24:47,403 --> 00:24:50,864 But it set a marker for where she would 509 00:24:50,864 --> 00:24:52,866 be for years to come. 510 00:24:52,866 --> 00:24:58,247 The person who was constantly required to forgive 511 00:24:58,247 --> 00:25:02,001 and prop up a husband no matter how many things 512 00:25:02,001 --> 00:25:03,752 he had done to hurt her. 513 00:25:03,752 --> 00:25:07,089 And later in American life, 514 00:25:07,089 --> 00:25:10,926 we would rethink that kind of role for a spouse. 515 00:25:10,926 --> 00:25:14,263 But at the time it was seen as you know 516 00:25:14,263 --> 00:25:17,766 an act of courage on her part. 517 00:25:17,766 --> 00:25:21,228 And a way of to say, well, we can move on. 518 00:25:24,732 --> 00:25:27,401 - The question of Mr. Clinton's recent problems 519 00:25:27,401 --> 00:25:30,154 lead you to believe that he has an electability problem. 520 00:25:30,154 --> 00:25:31,572 - Yeah, I think he's got a big electability problem. 521 00:25:31,572 --> 00:25:32,489 - Well, what do you think of this? 522 00:25:32,489 --> 00:25:33,991 - I wanna tell you what it is. 523 00:25:33,991 --> 00:25:36,660 It was right in front of the Washington Post today, 524 00:25:36,660 --> 00:25:38,829 he is funneling money to his wife's law firm 525 00:25:38,829 --> 00:25:40,497 for state business. 526 00:25:40,497 --> 00:25:41,749 That's number one. 527 00:25:41,749 --> 00:25:43,250 - I don't care what you say about me, 528 00:25:43,250 --> 00:25:45,711 but you oughta be ashamed of yourself for jumping 529 00:25:45,711 --> 00:25:47,212 on my wife. 530 00:25:47,212 --> 00:25:48,547 You're not worth being on the platform as my wife. 531 00:25:48,547 --> 00:25:49,715 - Let me tell you something Mr. Clinton, 532 00:25:49,715 --> 00:25:50,966 don't try to escape it. 533 00:25:50,966 --> 00:25:54,094 - Jerry Brown accused Hillary of making money 534 00:25:54,094 --> 00:25:55,596 off her Governor husband. 535 00:25:55,596 --> 00:25:57,056 For years Hillary Clinton, 536 00:25:57,056 --> 00:25:59,391 named one of the top lawyers in the country, 537 00:25:59,391 --> 00:26:01,643 says she went to great lengths to avoid 538 00:26:01,643 --> 00:26:02,811 any conflict of interest. 539 00:26:02,811 --> 00:26:05,481 - She's the only woman partner there 540 00:26:05,481 --> 00:26:07,191 and the lowest paid partner. 541 00:26:07,191 --> 00:26:08,901 In part, because she had insisted 542 00:26:08,901 --> 00:26:10,152 that she not participate 543 00:26:10,152 --> 00:26:12,946 in any profits that came from doing business 544 00:26:12,946 --> 00:26:14,198 with the state of Arkansas. 545 00:26:14,198 --> 00:26:17,326 Governor, Governor, 546 00:26:17,326 --> 00:26:20,704 what about Jerry Brown's attack on you ethics? 547 00:26:20,704 --> 00:26:23,540 - Well, he attacked my wife last night for having 548 00:26:23,540 --> 00:26:24,374 a law practice. 549 00:26:24,374 --> 00:26:25,584 That was amazing. 550 00:26:25,584 --> 00:26:28,295 And he deliberately misrepresented the 551 00:26:28,295 --> 00:26:30,094 Washington Post article. 552 00:26:34,635 --> 00:26:36,261 I don't. 553 00:26:36,261 --> 00:26:38,263 - Ask her, ask her. 554 00:26:38,263 --> 00:26:40,682 - My firm does a lot of business ever since I've been 555 00:26:40,682 --> 00:26:44,436 in that firm, I have not shared in one dollar 556 00:26:44,436 --> 00:26:47,481 of state funds that has ever, ever gone to my firm. 557 00:26:51,735 --> 00:26:55,441 - I wish that were true, but it's not. No, no. 558 00:26:56,698 --> 00:26:58,826 You know, I suppose I could've stayed home 559 00:26:58,826 --> 00:27:00,369 and baked cookies and had teas, 560 00:27:00,369 --> 00:27:03,163 but what I decided to do as fulfill my profession, 561 00:27:03,163 --> 00:27:05,666 which I entered before my husband was in public life. 562 00:27:05,666 --> 00:27:09,628 - And I'm watching that off to the side with Stephanopoulos. 563 00:27:09,628 --> 00:27:12,798 He elbows me in the ribs and I elbow him in the ribs 564 00:27:12,798 --> 00:27:13,841 and we're. 565 00:27:15,217 --> 00:27:17,469 - And I've tried very, very hard to be as careful 566 00:27:17,469 --> 00:27:19,680 as possible and that's all I can tell you. 567 00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:20,889 Thank you. 568 00:27:20,889 --> 00:27:22,307 - And I wander over when the cameras have left. 569 00:27:22,307 --> 00:27:23,809 I pulled her aside and I say, 570 00:27:23,809 --> 00:27:25,394 you know Hillary, they're gonna kill you for this. 571 00:27:25,394 --> 00:27:27,479 She said, what are you talking about? 572 00:27:27,479 --> 00:27:30,274 I said, you just said stay-at-home moms were no good, 573 00:27:30,274 --> 00:27:31,733 and that you wouldn't want to be. 574 00:27:31,733 --> 00:27:33,026 She said, no, no, no. 575 00:27:33,026 --> 00:27:35,612 I was just talking about all the frivolous stuff 576 00:27:35,612 --> 00:27:38,073 that first ladies sometimes are required to do. 577 00:27:38,073 --> 00:27:40,200 And I said, that's not how people are gonna hear it. 578 00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:42,369 She said, Paul, my mother was a stay-at-home mom 579 00:27:42,369 --> 00:27:43,787 and she's my hero. 580 00:27:43,787 --> 00:27:45,539 - I said, that's not what they are gonna hear. 581 00:27:45,539 --> 00:27:46,957 I can see her. 582 00:27:46,957 --> 00:27:50,168 Was her last moment of true naivete with the media. 583 00:27:50,168 --> 00:27:51,003 She put her arm around me and she said, 584 00:27:51,003 --> 00:27:54,089 Paulie, you just worry too much. 585 00:27:54,089 --> 00:27:56,258 Nobody's gonna think that. 586 00:27:56,258 --> 00:27:57,676 - I was ready to like her. 587 00:27:57,676 --> 00:27:59,928 Not now, after what she said. 588 00:27:59,928 --> 00:28:03,098 She obviously doesn't have respect for what I do. 589 00:28:03,098 --> 00:28:06,768 - The backlash, it took on a life of it's own. 590 00:28:06,768 --> 00:28:09,396 She has a flippant attitude about all the women 591 00:28:09,396 --> 00:28:10,731 who stay home. 592 00:28:10,731 --> 00:28:12,566 - She has no use for us, we have no use for her. 593 00:28:12,566 --> 00:28:14,234 You probably wish you hadn't said it. 594 00:28:14,234 --> 00:28:16,820 - Well, I wish what I said before and what I said after 595 00:28:16,820 --> 00:28:18,322 had all been part of the sound bite. 596 00:28:18,322 --> 00:28:21,909 But I'm learning that that's not always what you can expect. 597 00:28:21,909 --> 00:28:24,411 Even when I thought I was trying to reach out and be 598 00:28:24,411 --> 00:28:27,080 as forthcoming as I could. 599 00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:29,499 Or to be kinda reveal myself, 600 00:28:29,499 --> 00:28:32,711 I just felt like I was running into brick walls 601 00:28:32,711 --> 00:28:34,212 all the time. 602 00:28:34,212 --> 00:28:38,759 I couldn't figure out what is it they want from me. 603 00:28:39,927 --> 00:28:43,436 - Every time she tried to break the script, 604 00:28:43,436 --> 00:28:48,984 and be extemporaneous, she winds up being criticized. 605 00:28:48,984 --> 00:28:50,312 So she stops. 606 00:28:50,312 --> 00:28:53,106 You know it's like a flower that just keeps on closing down 607 00:28:53,106 --> 00:28:54,775 until after a while, 608 00:28:54,775 --> 00:28:56,526 you appear packaged. 609 00:28:56,526 --> 00:28:58,946 - We're at the Palmer House Hotel in Chicago. 610 00:28:58,946 --> 00:29:01,865 And we'd filmed it for focus groups to see what was working 611 00:29:01,865 --> 00:29:03,116 and what wasn't. 612 00:29:03,116 --> 00:29:04,701 And when she walked down the stage, 613 00:29:04,701 --> 00:29:07,120 the dials in the focus group just went. 614 00:29:07,955 --> 00:29:09,456 Bill looks at it, 615 00:29:09,456 --> 00:29:10,958 takes it in, 616 00:29:10,958 --> 00:29:12,834 and says, "You know, they just hated her hairstyle 617 00:29:12,834 --> 00:29:14,086 that night." 618 00:29:14,086 --> 00:29:16,630 Obviously, that wasn't what it was. 619 00:29:16,630 --> 00:29:18,256 It was that she'd just made this comment about moms. 620 00:29:18,256 --> 00:29:19,675 And he knew that, 621 00:29:19,675 --> 00:29:23,971 but he was not going to brook any discussion of maybe 622 00:29:23,971 --> 00:29:26,974 her having hurt him, 623 00:29:26,974 --> 00:29:28,517 being as she had just saved him. 624 00:29:28,517 --> 00:29:30,811 - After tea and cookies, 625 00:29:30,811 --> 00:29:32,854 she took a step back and really thought through 626 00:29:32,854 --> 00:29:36,191 how she was gonna present herself. 627 00:29:36,191 --> 00:29:38,902 - We have a little special something for whoever wins 628 00:29:38,902 --> 00:29:40,737 this bingo game. 629 00:29:40,737 --> 00:29:45,701 B-13, B-13. 630 00:29:45,701 --> 00:29:47,869 - Critics said that you've been muzzled. 631 00:29:47,869 --> 00:29:51,248 That you've had to tone yourself down and not be so visible. 632 00:29:51,248 --> 00:29:53,667 Well, if that's the case, 633 00:29:53,667 --> 00:29:55,127 nobody's told me. 634 00:29:55,127 --> 00:29:57,045 The Clinton campaign worked very hard 635 00:29:57,045 --> 00:29:59,464 on changing Hillary's image as the ambitious 636 00:29:59,464 --> 00:30:00,716 yuppie from hell. 637 00:30:00,716 --> 00:30:02,884 Her role, comments and even her look, 638 00:30:02,884 --> 00:30:04,636 have been moderated lately. 639 00:30:04,636 --> 00:30:07,681 There she was this week, holding her husbands umbrella. 640 00:30:07,681 --> 00:30:09,891 She has a new, softer hairdo, 641 00:30:09,891 --> 00:30:12,060 a new best friend, Tipper Gore. 642 00:30:12,060 --> 00:30:13,729 When the wives are introduced these days 643 00:30:13,729 --> 00:30:16,106 it's to take a bow and step back. 644 00:30:16,106 --> 00:30:21,028 - Those were decisions that I made as a way to 645 00:30:21,028 --> 00:30:22,946 you know, eliminate some of the friction. 646 00:30:23,822 --> 00:30:25,699 But the damage had been done. 647 00:30:25,699 --> 00:30:29,703 She'd been tagged an elitist and an ultra-feminist. 648 00:30:29,703 --> 00:30:32,706 - Hillary has compared marriage and the family 649 00:30:32,706 --> 00:30:38,003 as institutions to slavery and life on an Indian reservation. 650 00:30:40,756 --> 00:30:45,668 This my friends, this is radical feminism. 651 00:30:45,668 --> 00:30:48,346 - I'm a little surprised that they resorted 652 00:30:48,346 --> 00:30:50,599 to the attacks on my wife. 653 00:30:50,599 --> 00:30:51,975 You know it's almost as if they were running 654 00:30:51,975 --> 00:30:53,935 for first lady instead of president. 655 00:30:53,935 --> 00:30:55,520 And it's not really about Hillary. 656 00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:57,064 What they're trying to do is to make a thing 657 00:30:57,064 --> 00:30:59,566 against all independent working women you know trying to run 658 00:30:59,566 --> 00:31:02,819 against them in a way that I think is really lamentable. 659 00:31:02,819 --> 00:31:04,071 Not just a contest 660 00:31:04,071 --> 00:31:06,156 between Democrats and Republicans, 661 00:31:06,156 --> 00:31:09,409 this election has become a referendum on the role of women. 662 00:31:11,912 --> 00:31:13,163 - This has been called 663 00:31:13,163 --> 00:31:14,664 the year of the woman in American politics. 664 00:31:14,664 --> 00:31:17,375 - This is the year of the woman. 665 00:31:17,375 --> 00:31:19,628 - Well, 1992 was the Year of the Woman 666 00:31:19,628 --> 00:31:21,713 after the Anita Hill debacle. 667 00:31:23,715 --> 00:31:26,718 - George H. W. Bush nominated Clarence Thomas 668 00:31:26,718 --> 00:31:29,179 and Anita Hill came forward to say 669 00:31:29,179 --> 00:31:31,056 that she had been sexually harassed by him. 670 00:31:31,056 --> 00:31:33,892 - And then the hearings came. 671 00:31:33,892 --> 00:31:39,564 And I mean most of us were dumbstruck. 672 00:31:40,690 --> 00:31:42,400 - Are you a scorned woman? 673 00:31:43,860 --> 00:31:45,612 Do you have a martyr complex? 674 00:31:45,612 --> 00:31:48,031 Are you interested in writing a book? 675 00:31:48,031 --> 00:31:52,536 - Women were watching the dais full of only men, 676 00:31:52,536 --> 00:31:54,996 you know, grilling this woman. 677 00:31:54,996 --> 00:31:57,707 - You are not drawing a conclusion 678 00:31:57,707 --> 00:32:00,418 that Judge Thomas sexually harassed you? 679 00:32:00,418 --> 00:32:02,170 - Yes, I am drawing that conclusion. 680 00:32:02,170 --> 00:32:03,213 That is my-- - Well then, 681 00:32:03,213 --> 00:32:04,840 I don't understand. 682 00:32:06,174 --> 00:32:08,718 - The treatment of Anita Hill sparked such an outrage. 683 00:32:08,718 --> 00:32:12,055 - It became an example of a government administration 684 00:32:12,055 --> 00:32:15,350 that did not hear us, did not see us, did not respect us. 685 00:32:15,350 --> 00:32:17,602 And I think the tide began to turn. 686 00:32:17,602 --> 00:32:19,938 - There are 11 women running for US Senate 687 00:32:19,938 --> 00:32:23,567 and 107 the most ever chasing seats in the House. 688 00:32:23,567 --> 00:32:26,153 Contributions to groups that help elect women 689 00:32:26,153 --> 00:32:29,573 have tripled since the Senate's treatment of Anita Hill. 690 00:32:29,573 --> 00:32:34,077 - Just one week before the anniversary of the hearings 691 00:32:34,077 --> 00:32:36,663 with Anita Hill and Clarence Thomas, 692 00:32:36,663 --> 00:32:39,416 don't we seek our revenge? 693 00:32:41,793 --> 00:32:44,296 When I went to the Senate in 1986, 694 00:32:44,296 --> 00:32:48,258 I was the first Democratic woman elected in her own right 695 00:32:48,258 --> 00:32:50,594 in all of American history. 696 00:32:50,594 --> 00:32:53,471 Even in 1992 there were only two women, 697 00:32:53,471 --> 00:32:57,601 Senator Kestenbaum of Kansas and myself. 698 00:32:57,601 --> 00:32:59,644 We were viewed as novelties. 699 00:32:59,644 --> 00:33:03,356 I mean there was no ladies room. 700 00:33:04,816 --> 00:33:07,277 Is there a gender revolution waiting to happen? 701 00:33:07,277 --> 00:33:08,486 Can American politics 702 00:33:08,486 --> 00:33:11,615 change so suddenly and so dramatically? 703 00:33:11,615 --> 00:33:14,701 - I was thrilled that so many women were running 704 00:33:14,701 --> 00:33:16,453 and I campaigned for a bunch of them. 705 00:33:16,453 --> 00:33:17,787 - I think we know where the energy 706 00:33:17,787 --> 00:33:19,998 in the Democratic Party in America is today. 707 00:33:21,291 --> 00:33:22,959 I'd be glad to be on Diane Feinstein 708 00:33:22,959 --> 00:33:25,086 and Barbara Boxer's coattails any day. 709 00:33:26,338 --> 00:33:27,964 - Any political practitioner would tell you 710 00:33:27,964 --> 00:33:29,799 maybe you can get one woman elected. 711 00:33:29,799 --> 00:33:33,094 But the idea to get two, not possible. 712 00:33:33,094 --> 00:33:36,181 She is the new senator-elect 713 00:33:36,181 --> 00:33:38,266 Carol Mosely Braun! 714 00:33:38,266 --> 00:33:40,936 - Carol Mosely Braun of Illinois, 715 00:33:40,936 --> 00:33:43,647 Patty Murray, Washington State, 716 00:33:43,647 --> 00:33:47,067 Barbara Boxer, Diane Feinstein California. 717 00:33:47,067 --> 00:33:49,819 I felt like I was walking on the moon. 718 00:33:49,819 --> 00:33:51,738 There are so many new women in the Senate 719 00:33:51,738 --> 00:33:53,490 that Majority Leader George Mitchell 720 00:33:53,490 --> 00:33:56,326 ordered their own bathroom built next to the men's room. 721 00:33:57,535 --> 00:33:58,995 The United States of America 722 00:33:58,995 --> 00:34:02,082 has a new president tonight from a new generation. 723 00:34:02,082 --> 00:34:05,210 - I want to begin this night by thanking my wife 724 00:34:05,210 --> 00:34:08,171 who I believe will be one of the greatest first ladies 725 00:34:08,171 --> 00:34:10,173 in the history of this republic. 726 00:34:12,884 --> 00:34:15,845 - Hillary Clinton was gonna be part of this new wave 727 00:34:15,845 --> 00:34:18,807 of powerful women in Washington. 728 00:34:18,807 --> 00:34:22,519 Women who had ideas that could define this administration. 729 00:35:41,806 --> 00:35:43,725 - I remember just being almost 730 00:35:43,725 --> 00:35:47,145 in a state of delirious shock. 731 00:35:47,145 --> 00:35:48,605 I'm thrilled and excited. 732 00:35:48,605 --> 00:35:50,190 I'm starting to think, my gosh, what does this 733 00:35:50,190 --> 00:35:52,692 really mean because when you're in a campaign 734 00:35:52,692 --> 00:35:54,194 you can't think about anything else. 735 00:35:54,194 --> 00:35:57,781 You just get up every day and you get out there 736 00:35:57,781 --> 00:35:59,616 and do your best to make your case. 737 00:36:07,832 --> 00:36:10,460 The Clinton campaign has a tough road ahead. 738 00:36:10,460 --> 00:36:13,797 Right now, Senator Bernie Sanders has more momentum. 739 00:36:13,797 --> 00:36:15,006 And she really is gonna have to 740 00:36:15,006 --> 00:36:16,925 kick up her campaign to another gear. 741 00:36:16,925 --> 00:36:19,594 - I always thought of Hillary as sort of ahead of her time 742 00:36:19,594 --> 00:36:21,763 and never quite of her time. 743 00:36:21,763 --> 00:36:25,350 During the primary she was being portrayed as the centrist 744 00:36:25,350 --> 00:36:28,311 cozying up with Wall Street and I think a wide swath 745 00:36:28,311 --> 00:36:30,814 of the Democratic electorate didn't realize 746 00:36:30,814 --> 00:36:32,315 that for most of her career 747 00:36:32,315 --> 00:36:35,151 she was like the scary bra burning feminist liberal. 748 00:36:35,151 --> 00:36:36,861 It's like, you've spent most of your career 749 00:36:36,861 --> 00:36:38,071 trying to convince the world 750 00:36:38,071 --> 00:36:39,572 that you're not this scary liberal 751 00:36:39,572 --> 00:36:41,032 and now you're trying to convince the world 752 00:36:41,032 --> 00:36:42,992 that you are a liberal. 753 00:36:42,992 --> 00:36:45,245 Yeah, it had to be exasperating. 754 00:36:49,666 --> 00:36:52,127 - At that point in the primary she's the loser, right. 755 00:36:52,127 --> 00:36:54,629 And that's it and you have to live with that. 756 00:36:56,214 --> 00:37:00,385 But she is incredibly good as an underdog 757 00:37:00,385 --> 00:37:04,013 and we marched on to Nevada. 758 00:37:04,013 --> 00:37:05,557 - Hi, everybody. 759 00:37:05,557 --> 00:37:07,225 Happy Valentines Day! 760 00:37:15,233 --> 00:37:16,693 - I think she was running the best 761 00:37:16,693 --> 00:37:18,528 when she was running scared. 762 00:37:18,528 --> 00:37:21,948 She was like going to the basement of casinos at midnight 763 00:37:21,948 --> 00:37:25,410 to shake hands with every maid, every cook. 764 00:37:25,410 --> 00:37:27,537 - Hey Eric, how are you? 765 00:37:27,537 --> 00:37:29,748 Good, ma'am, how are you? 766 00:37:29,748 --> 00:37:31,124 - I don't know. 767 00:37:31,124 --> 00:37:32,625 I'm trying to wake up. 768 00:37:34,919 --> 00:37:37,672 Well, thanks for letting me barge in at midnight. 769 00:37:38,673 --> 00:37:40,748 Hi! 770 00:37:40,748 --> 00:37:43,219 - How are you? 771 00:37:43,219 --> 00:37:45,096 It's so great to see you. 772 00:37:45,096 --> 00:37:46,556 Hello, hello. 773 00:37:46,556 --> 00:37:48,892 I came to help, I came to help. 774 00:37:48,892 --> 00:37:50,351 I know you're doing a hard job. 775 00:37:50,351 --> 00:37:53,188 - And I also think like these were her people in Nevada. 776 00:37:53,188 --> 00:37:56,232 These were minimum wage workers, these were union workers, 777 00:37:56,232 --> 00:37:57,609 these were a lot of women, 778 00:37:57,609 --> 00:38:00,111 a lot of Latinas, a lot of immigrants. 779 00:38:00,111 --> 00:38:02,405 And she really connected with these women. 780 00:38:05,909 --> 00:38:07,744 - So good to see you! 781 00:38:07,744 --> 00:38:12,749 - Hillary! 782 00:38:13,416 --> 00:38:14,459 - Good for you! 783 00:38:15,627 --> 00:38:18,963 - HRC 2016, HRC 2016, HRC 2016, HRC 2016! 784 00:38:22,133 --> 00:38:26,471 HRC! 785 00:38:31,643 --> 00:38:33,228 - When she got to the South, 786 00:38:33,228 --> 00:38:35,480 we knew this was gonna be the firewall. 787 00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:39,275 It was her base, it was her coalition. 788 00:38:43,947 --> 00:38:45,865 - This is the day the Lord has made. 789 00:38:45,865 --> 00:38:49,202 Let us rejoice and be glad in it. 790 00:38:49,202 --> 00:38:51,538 - Almost every Sunday we went to a black church 791 00:38:51,538 --> 00:38:53,289 with Hillary Clinton and this wasn't something 792 00:38:53,289 --> 00:38:55,625 that she just like showed up ahead of an election. 793 00:38:55,625 --> 00:38:57,418 These were people who knew her, 794 00:38:57,418 --> 00:38:59,170 who welcomed her back to their churches 795 00:38:59,170 --> 00:39:02,590 and she was incredibly comfortable in these settings. 796 00:39:02,590 --> 00:39:07,595 - I don't want to be the president for only some Americans. 797 00:39:08,930 --> 00:39:11,683 I want to be the president for all Americans. 798 00:39:13,017 --> 00:39:14,769 - The Clintons' relationship with black voters 799 00:39:14,769 --> 00:39:16,646 in the United States goes back decades. 800 00:39:16,646 --> 00:39:19,148 Bill Clinton was dubbed the first black president 801 00:39:19,148 --> 00:39:20,400 many years before 802 00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:22,193 there actually was a first black president. 803 00:39:22,193 --> 00:39:25,154 And Hillary Clinton had relationships with a lot 804 00:39:25,154 --> 00:39:27,907 of the activist movement leaders. 805 00:39:27,907 --> 00:39:30,410 She knew that if she could get to South Carolina 806 00:39:30,410 --> 00:39:33,329 in decent shape that it could be a turning point 807 00:39:33,329 --> 00:39:35,415 in her progress towards the nomination. 808 00:39:35,415 --> 00:39:37,750 We're gonna do the staff. 809 00:39:37,750 --> 00:39:39,502 - Congratulations. 810 00:39:39,502 --> 00:39:40,461 What's happening now? 811 00:39:40,461 --> 00:39:41,713 - You're winning. 812 00:39:41,713 --> 00:39:44,674 - We're laughing at a good tweet. 813 00:39:44,674 --> 00:39:46,384 - 75/25 it sounds like a virtual tie. 814 00:39:51,222 --> 00:39:53,141 - Thank you so much, South Carolina. 815 00:39:54,559 --> 00:39:58,062 Tomorrow this campaign goes national. 816 00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:03,568 - It was important that she had a really big showing 817 00:40:03,568 --> 00:40:06,779 in South Carolina because it was gonna pivot her 818 00:40:06,779 --> 00:40:09,365 into the Super Tuesday states. 819 00:40:09,365 --> 00:40:12,201 - And some new projections. 820 00:40:12,201 --> 00:40:13,870 - Just in time. 821 00:40:13,870 --> 00:40:15,580 - First of all, CNN predicts that Donald Trump 822 00:40:15,580 --> 00:40:19,626 wins the Alabama Republican presidential primary. 823 00:40:21,836 --> 00:40:22,670 - Okay. 824 00:40:24,756 --> 00:40:28,259 I think we're winning, we're winning. 825 00:40:28,259 --> 00:40:29,427 We're winning. 826 00:40:32,221 --> 00:40:34,849 We are so punch drunk we have not been, 827 00:40:34,849 --> 00:40:37,018 we have not been home in two weeks. 828 00:40:37,018 --> 00:40:39,228 - That looks a little giddy. 829 00:40:39,228 --> 00:40:40,813 - Bonnie, we took you for a week. 830 00:40:40,813 --> 00:40:43,983 We took Alexa for a few days but we've been on the road. 831 00:40:43,983 --> 00:40:45,068 - We've been on the road. 832 00:40:45,068 --> 00:40:46,319 - I know. 833 00:40:46,319 --> 00:40:47,487 Five states are holding 834 00:40:47,487 --> 00:40:49,280 their primaries on March 15th. 835 00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:50,823 They are the five states 836 00:40:50,823 --> 00:40:52,241 that could decide it all. 837 00:40:52,241 --> 00:40:54,285 Ohio, Illinois, Missouri, 838 00:40:54,285 --> 00:40:55,828 North Carolina and Florida. 839 00:40:55,828 --> 00:40:57,497 Hillary Clinton's people are already using 840 00:40:57,497 --> 00:40:59,332 the term nails in coffin. 841 00:41:01,709 --> 00:41:03,211 - I think it all just came in. 842 00:41:04,379 --> 00:41:05,713 - Hold up, hold up, hold up. 843 00:41:05,713 --> 00:41:06,714 - Wait, hold on. 844 00:41:06,714 --> 00:41:07,882 Joyce, what do you know? 845 00:41:09,217 --> 00:41:11,219 Wait, shh, shh. 846 00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:33,533 - That's so great! 847 00:41:33,533 --> 00:41:35,535 Okay, if he's awake. 848 00:41:37,370 --> 00:41:39,038 Wake him up. 849 00:41:41,791 --> 00:41:43,584 - He's probably trying to call you, Robby. 850 00:41:43,584 --> 00:41:45,086 - I was gonna say. 851 00:41:46,295 --> 00:41:48,297 - What do you mean only 12,000 votes? 852 00:41:48,297 --> 00:41:50,967 Just a minute, hang on a second. 853 00:42:00,935 --> 00:42:04,689 I just wanted you to share in our hysteria on the plane. 854 00:42:05,648 --> 00:42:08,067 - CNN and NBC just called it. 855 00:42:08,067 --> 00:42:08,901 - Missouri? 856 00:42:11,654 --> 00:42:14,657 - NBC and CNN just called Missouri. 857 00:42:14,657 --> 00:42:16,826 - That's a sweep. 858 00:42:16,826 --> 00:42:18,244 - Yep. - It's a sweep! 859 00:42:18,828 --> 00:42:21,247 Yeah, I know it is pretty hard to believe. 860 00:42:24,917 --> 00:42:26,377 Why do you think people say, well, 861 00:42:26,377 --> 00:42:28,713 you know she's so much different in person 862 00:42:28,713 --> 00:42:29,964 than she is in public? 863 00:42:29,964 --> 00:42:32,008 They don't feel like they know the real you 864 00:42:32,008 --> 00:42:35,094 or that maybe you're not as warm as they hear that you are 865 00:42:35,094 --> 00:42:36,345 behind the scenes. 866 00:42:36,345 --> 00:42:38,014 And I'm sure you've heard a million times-- 867 00:42:38,014 --> 00:42:39,515 - Sure. -The likeability factor. 868 00:42:39,515 --> 00:42:41,851 - Yeah, but they bring it up with a lot of women. 869 00:42:41,851 --> 00:42:47,857 So, I think there are certainly reasons personal to me. 870 00:42:48,441 --> 00:42:51,569 I also think though that my, 871 00:42:53,988 --> 00:42:55,239 my bluntness, 872 00:42:55,239 --> 00:42:59,619 my outspokenness, 873 00:42:59,619 --> 00:43:02,747 my pushback, 874 00:43:02,747 --> 00:43:07,043 all of that creates cognitive dissonance in people 875 00:43:07,043 --> 00:43:10,797 because I came to national public attention 876 00:43:10,797 --> 00:43:13,132 as quote a first lady. 877 00:43:13,132 --> 00:43:17,595 And there is a set of expectations about a first lady 878 00:43:17,595 --> 00:43:20,973 and I violated them, you know, from the very beginning. 879 00:43:23,893 --> 00:43:25,311 Ladies and gentlemen, 880 00:43:25,311 --> 00:43:28,022 the President of the United States Bill Clinton 881 00:43:28,022 --> 00:43:32,693 and the Vice - First Lady Hillary Rodham Clinton. 882 00:43:35,780 --> 00:43:37,782 - The Clintons were the first iteration 883 00:43:37,782 --> 00:43:41,536 of the baby boom generation in presidential politics. 884 00:43:41,536 --> 00:43:44,956 For me, Bill Clinton was the first candidate 885 00:43:44,956 --> 00:43:47,959 I covered who wasn't dad. 886 00:43:47,959 --> 00:43:51,003 We baby boomers had a sense of righteousness. 887 00:43:51,003 --> 00:43:53,506 We had been the ones who marched against the war 888 00:43:53,506 --> 00:43:55,633 and in favor of civil rights. 889 00:43:55,633 --> 00:43:57,635 And we had a new set of morals 890 00:43:57,635 --> 00:44:01,097 that many people in the country found really threatening. 891 00:44:01,097 --> 00:44:04,684 The Clintons were gonna knock down the establishment. 892 00:44:04,684 --> 00:44:06,477 - Yes, we were trying to make change. 893 00:44:06,477 --> 00:44:08,271 We thought change was overdue. 894 00:44:08,271 --> 00:44:10,731 We thought change was necessary. 895 00:44:10,731 --> 00:44:13,651 - I remember my mom talking to me about the first ladies 896 00:44:13,651 --> 00:44:16,070 that she really admired. 897 00:44:16,070 --> 00:44:18,573 She talked a lot about Eleanor Roosevelt. 898 00:44:19,740 --> 00:44:21,868 - I had thought a lot about Eleanor Roosevelt 899 00:44:21,868 --> 00:44:24,996 saying do the thing you're most afraid of. 900 00:44:24,996 --> 00:44:28,583 You want to make a difference, you want to have an impact, 901 00:44:29,667 --> 00:44:32,211 well, then you've gotta get in the arena. 902 00:44:32,211 --> 00:44:33,462 - Well, right from the beginning 903 00:44:33,462 --> 00:44:35,339 he gave her a lot of responsibility 904 00:44:35,339 --> 00:44:37,049 the day they walked into the door. 905 00:44:37,049 --> 00:44:39,969 They made it clear she wasn't there to bake cookies. 906 00:44:39,969 --> 00:44:41,220 - She was the first first lady 907 00:44:41,220 --> 00:44:44,640 to have an office in the West Wing. 908 00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:47,560 The president's wife has two official offices. 909 00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:51,355 The usual one in the East Wing where parties are planned 910 00:44:51,355 --> 00:44:53,733 and one in the West Wing where policy is made. 911 00:44:55,193 --> 00:44:57,862 - I can't help but notice that this is an all-chick staff. 912 00:44:57,862 --> 00:45:00,072 Is that something that you did deliberately 913 00:45:00,072 --> 00:45:01,449 or did it just kind of happen? 914 00:45:01,449 --> 00:45:02,742 No, Neil is over there. 915 00:45:02,742 --> 00:45:03,701 Neil, I'm sorry. - Neil's over there 916 00:45:03,701 --> 00:45:04,869 in the corner. - That's right. 917 00:45:04,869 --> 00:45:05,828 Poor Neil. 918 00:45:05,828 --> 00:45:09,081 - She hired all women and I thought that was fantastic. 919 00:45:09,081 --> 00:45:10,875 You know they were smart as a whip 920 00:45:10,875 --> 00:45:12,668 and she had empowered them all. 921 00:45:12,668 --> 00:45:15,421 - We were encouraged to give our opinion. 922 00:45:15,421 --> 00:45:17,256 Like I don't want a bunch of yes people around me 923 00:45:17,256 --> 00:45:18,591 she would say all the time you know. 924 00:45:18,591 --> 00:45:20,426 Don't yes me on this. 925 00:45:20,426 --> 00:45:22,094 You know, what do you really think? 926 00:45:22,094 --> 00:45:24,889 - There was something bigger that united us 927 00:45:24,889 --> 00:45:28,351 and it was being reminded often by the boss 928 00:45:28,351 --> 00:45:30,102 why we are all here. 929 00:45:30,102 --> 00:45:34,315 - You were part of a cause you know part of trying to 930 00:45:34,315 --> 00:45:35,983 you know do great things 931 00:45:35,983 --> 00:45:39,779 and have an impact on the country and the world. 932 00:45:39,779 --> 00:45:41,781 - Hello, this is Hillary Clinton. 933 00:45:41,781 --> 00:45:44,075 I want to thank you for letting me speak with you 934 00:45:44,075 --> 00:45:46,953 about an issue that is central to our children's future, 935 00:45:46,953 --> 00:45:50,081 solving our nation's healthcare crisis. 936 00:45:51,499 --> 00:45:54,752 - The president wanted her to work on healthcare. 937 00:45:54,752 --> 00:45:58,756 She gladly accepted the call. 938 00:45:58,756 --> 00:46:00,383 - I am grateful that Hillary has agreed 939 00:46:00,383 --> 00:46:02,635 to chair this task force. 940 00:46:02,635 --> 00:46:05,304 And not only because it means she'll be sharing 941 00:46:05,304 --> 00:46:07,890 some of the heat I expect to generate. 942 00:46:07,890 --> 00:46:11,060 - It was explosive that the president 943 00:46:11,060 --> 00:46:13,896 would ask his wife to do this work. 944 00:46:13,896 --> 00:46:15,815 I thought, well, you know I'm gonna try to make a difference 945 00:46:15,815 --> 00:46:16,983 in people's lives. 946 00:46:16,983 --> 00:46:19,193 What's more important than healthcare? 947 00:46:19,193 --> 00:46:20,945 - Keep in mind Lyndon Johnson 948 00:46:20,945 --> 00:46:24,490 had the most Democratic congress in modern times. 949 00:46:25,700 --> 00:46:27,535 They passed Medicare, they passed Medicaid. 950 00:46:27,535 --> 00:46:31,372 He did not even try to get universal health coverage, 951 00:46:31,372 --> 00:46:33,457 didn't even try. 952 00:46:33,457 --> 00:46:35,251 - Harry Truman had tried to do it. 953 00:46:35,251 --> 00:46:37,253 Richard Nixon had tried to do it. 954 00:46:37,253 --> 00:46:39,922 And now Hillary Clinton was trying to do it. 955 00:46:39,922 --> 00:46:41,132 After hearing from people 956 00:46:41,132 --> 00:46:42,925 who had been denied medical coverage, 957 00:46:42,925 --> 00:46:46,095 the first lady unloaded on the insurance industry. 958 00:46:46,095 --> 00:46:47,430 - It's almost as though they decided 959 00:46:47,430 --> 00:46:49,640 that nobody should ever get sick. 960 00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:50,933 We should all just drop dead 961 00:46:50,933 --> 00:46:52,852 without ever having been in the hospital. 962 00:46:52,852 --> 00:46:55,855 - She puts together a task force of smart people 963 00:46:55,855 --> 00:46:59,066 policy wonks to figure out how to remake the system. 964 00:46:59,066 --> 00:47:00,401 - Our goal was very simple. 965 00:47:00,401 --> 00:47:04,488 We were going to have guaranteed universal healthcare 966 00:47:04,488 --> 00:47:08,576 at an affordable cost for every American. 967 00:47:08,576 --> 00:47:14,241 Every American will receive a health security card 968 00:47:14,241 --> 00:47:18,336 guaranteeing a comprehensive package of benefits 969 00:47:18,336 --> 00:47:23,341 that can never be taken away under any circumstance. 970 00:47:24,508 --> 00:47:27,178 - For her, it was always about policy. 971 00:47:27,178 --> 00:47:28,721 What is the best way to try to help these families? 972 00:47:28,721 --> 00:47:30,473 And I think she very much believed 973 00:47:30,473 --> 00:47:33,476 that good policy would be good politics. 974 00:47:33,476 --> 00:47:35,978 And that was not the story of that healthcare plan. 975 00:47:37,396 --> 00:47:39,440 - I put her in charge of this committee for a simple reason 976 00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:40,941 that it had worked at home 977 00:47:40,941 --> 00:47:43,736 in what I thought was a more conservative atmosphere. 978 00:47:43,736 --> 00:47:46,530 But the truth was it came to the role of the first lady, 979 00:47:47,907 --> 00:47:52,328 Washington was much more reactionary than Arkansas was. 980 00:47:53,996 --> 00:47:55,740 Mr. Michel and Mr. Gingrich. 981 00:48:02,546 --> 00:48:05,091 Is there any problem with that at all? 982 00:48:05,091 --> 00:48:08,260 - You want to jump in on this or do you want me to? 983 00:48:08,260 --> 00:48:10,179 - Well, I could always ask my wife I guess 984 00:48:10,179 --> 00:48:11,680 to come be my representative but-- 985 00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:14,892 - Hillary Clinton was seen as a more rigid 986 00:48:14,892 --> 00:48:17,436 probably more liberal than her husband at the time 987 00:48:17,436 --> 00:48:19,105 during those first two years. 988 00:48:19,105 --> 00:48:23,401 And because she was out front on principle on issues 989 00:48:23,401 --> 00:48:26,487 that maybe half the country didn't think should go that far 990 00:48:26,487 --> 00:48:30,116 it was easy to demonize her. 991 00:48:30,116 --> 00:48:32,243 Change the channel to a comedy show 992 00:48:32,243 --> 00:48:35,496 and see Hillary skewered as the overbearing wife. 993 00:48:35,496 --> 00:48:38,249 - Hillary, why don't you give it a rest? 994 00:48:38,249 --> 00:48:40,626 - The argument was this left-wing woman is ordering 995 00:48:40,626 --> 00:48:43,963 her husband around and you know he's her poodle. 996 00:48:43,963 --> 00:48:46,924 - Just constant attacks from, 997 00:48:46,924 --> 00:48:49,385 you know, shock and talk radio. 998 00:48:49,385 --> 00:48:50,886 And a whole bunch of guys testicles 999 00:48:50,886 --> 00:48:53,472 are in Hillary's lock box, her testicle lock box. 1000 00:48:56,475 --> 00:48:58,561 - I can't remember any first lady who has been assaulted 1001 00:48:58,561 --> 00:49:00,938 the way she was and treated the way she was. 1002 00:49:00,938 --> 00:49:02,148 - It never hurts at all? 1003 00:49:02,148 --> 00:49:03,441 - No, it really doesn't. - Really? 1004 00:49:03,441 --> 00:49:06,444 - Nope, not unless they go after 1005 00:49:06,444 --> 00:49:08,654 a family member or my daughter. 1006 00:49:08,654 --> 00:49:10,698 - Let's take a loo and see who is the cute kid 1007 00:49:10,698 --> 00:49:13,159 in the White House. 1008 00:49:13,159 --> 00:49:17,997 No, no, no, that's not the kid that's the kid. 1009 00:49:17,997 --> 00:49:18,956 We tried to-- 1010 00:49:19,957 --> 00:49:21,459 - Bill Clinton had repositioned 1011 00:49:21,459 --> 00:49:23,335 the Democratic Party more to the center. 1012 00:49:23,335 --> 00:49:26,755 And so, there was less room for Republicans 1013 00:49:26,755 --> 00:49:29,258 and conservatives to attack Bill Clinton 1014 00:49:29,258 --> 00:49:32,845 as a crazy socialist or a leftist because he wasn't. 1015 00:49:32,845 --> 00:49:34,847 And so, the Republican strategy 1016 00:49:34,847 --> 00:49:38,767 became we're going to get the Clintons through scandal. 1017 00:49:39,852 --> 00:49:41,854 That was really the seed 1018 00:49:41,854 --> 00:49:45,024 that led to the obsession with Whitewater, 1019 00:49:45,024 --> 00:49:48,903 a scandal that started with Vincent Foster's death. 1020 00:49:48,903 --> 00:49:50,362 - At the White House today the president 1021 00:49:50,362 --> 00:49:52,531 may have had trouble concentrating on all this. 1022 00:49:52,531 --> 00:49:55,075 Last night his old friend and colleague Vincent Foster, 1023 00:49:55,075 --> 00:49:56,744 the deputy White House counsel, 1024 00:49:56,744 --> 00:49:58,329 apparently took his own life. 1025 00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:04,001 - Vince Foster was a childhood friend of Bill's. 1026 00:50:04,001 --> 00:50:06,962 - Vince Foster and I, our backyards touched. 1027 00:50:06,962 --> 00:50:09,965 And when Hillary went to work for the Rose Law Firm 1028 00:50:09,965 --> 00:50:11,509 and Vince Foster worked there 1029 00:50:12,843 --> 00:50:16,680 and became one of the closest friends she ever had. 1030 00:50:17,973 --> 00:50:22,561 I mean Vince's wife taught Chelsea to swim. 1031 00:50:22,561 --> 00:50:27,191 - He was a terrific law partner, a terrific friend 1032 00:50:27,191 --> 00:50:31,111 and was very excited about coming to Washington. 1033 00:50:31,111 --> 00:50:32,446 Police said Foster's body 1034 00:50:32,446 --> 00:50:35,199 was found at this park just outside Washington, 1035 00:50:35,199 --> 00:50:36,867 dead of a gunshot wound to the head. 1036 00:50:36,867 --> 00:50:40,371 - It was a very poignant example 1037 00:50:40,371 --> 00:50:42,957 of how an outsider can come in 1038 00:50:42,957 --> 00:50:47,002 wanting to do well and be just not ready 1039 00:50:47,002 --> 00:50:50,881 for the brutality of what goes on in Washington. 1040 00:50:50,881 --> 00:50:52,591 As deputy to White House counsel 1041 00:50:52,591 --> 00:50:55,010 Bernard Nussbaum, Foster had been involved 1042 00:50:55,010 --> 00:50:57,221 in much of the early White House troubles. 1043 00:50:57,221 --> 00:50:59,932 His office intensely criticized for its role 1044 00:50:59,932 --> 00:51:02,601 in several events embarrassing to Mr. Clinton. 1045 00:51:02,601 --> 00:51:05,604 - There were appointments that fell apart. 1046 00:51:05,604 --> 00:51:07,648 The blame fell on the White House counsel's office 1047 00:51:07,648 --> 00:51:09,483 for not having vetted them properly 1048 00:51:09,483 --> 00:51:12,236 and Vince Foster took it very hard. 1049 00:51:12,236 --> 00:51:16,156 - He was such a professional and he was so dignified. 1050 00:51:16,156 --> 00:51:18,909 I don't think anybody had any idea 1051 00:51:18,909 --> 00:51:21,745 that he had fallen into a depression. 1052 00:51:23,414 --> 00:51:28,085 - The night before his suicide I called him. 1053 00:51:28,085 --> 00:51:30,421 I asked him if he wanted to come watch a movie. 1054 00:51:32,089 --> 00:51:33,048 He said no. 1055 00:51:33,048 --> 00:51:34,800 He said I've already gone home 1056 00:51:36,260 --> 00:51:38,596 and I really need to stay home with Lisa tonight. 1057 00:51:38,596 --> 00:51:43,225 And I now know he already knew what he was gonna do. 1058 00:51:54,028 --> 00:51:59,033 - I didn't think I could be more distraught or more shocked 1059 00:52:00,451 --> 00:52:03,954 but I was when I saw people starting to politicize it, 1060 00:52:03,954 --> 00:52:10,281 starting to spin ridiculous conspiracy theories. 1061 00:52:10,281 --> 00:52:13,297 - All of a sudden you get stories circulating 1062 00:52:13,297 --> 00:52:16,925 in these outlets about Vince Foster 1063 00:52:16,925 --> 00:52:21,639 having been murdered by the Clintons. 1064 00:52:21,639 --> 00:52:25,601 - Vince was managing their financial disclosure, 1065 00:52:25,601 --> 00:52:27,019 tax returns, et cetera. 1066 00:52:27,019 --> 00:52:29,355 So, there were kind of two competing theories. 1067 00:52:29,355 --> 00:52:31,732 One is that he knew too much 1068 00:52:31,732 --> 00:52:33,734 and the Clintons had him killed. 1069 00:52:33,734 --> 00:52:36,654 The other was he knew too much 1070 00:52:36,654 --> 00:52:39,323 and his only out was to kill himself. 1071 00:52:39,323 --> 00:52:42,076 - You know think of the emotions of that. 1072 00:52:42,076 --> 00:52:45,162 They were being accused of murder on the editorial pages. 1073 00:52:45,162 --> 00:52:46,830 You know who killed Vince Foster? 1074 00:52:48,582 --> 00:52:50,042 - It was nuts. 1075 00:52:50,042 --> 00:52:54,296 We started being besieged by these vile accusations. 1076 00:52:55,714 --> 00:53:00,219 And, yeah, I think that made me even more restrained. 1077 00:53:01,053 --> 00:53:02,638 - The response by the Clintons 1078 00:53:02,638 --> 00:53:06,058 and the people in the White House didn't help. 1079 00:53:06,058 --> 00:53:07,976 They sealed off his office. 1080 00:53:07,976 --> 00:53:09,812 Papers were removed from the office. 1081 00:53:10,813 --> 00:53:12,064 All of this looked weird. 1082 00:53:12,064 --> 00:53:13,023 All of this looks suspicious. 1083 00:53:13,023 --> 00:53:14,233 What's going on? 1084 00:53:14,233 --> 00:53:16,694 He had been involved in this Whitewater deal 1085 00:53:16,694 --> 00:53:23,534 and this is all the recipe for years of painful controversy. 1086 00:53:23,534 --> 00:53:27,079 Whitewater, it's an issue that will not die. 1087 00:53:27,079 --> 00:53:29,456 There are hints, suggestions and innuendo, 1088 00:53:29,456 --> 00:53:31,041 but no smoking gun. 1089 00:53:32,084 --> 00:53:33,669 - I thought Whitewater was ridiculous. 1090 00:53:33,669 --> 00:53:36,839 No one knew what Whitewater was about. 1091 00:53:36,839 --> 00:53:42,010 It was a nonstory and somehow was construed into a scandal. 1092 00:53:42,010 --> 00:53:45,931 And she was seen as being kind of sketchy as a result. 1093 00:53:48,100 --> 00:53:49,435 Federal Justice Department officials 1094 00:53:49,435 --> 00:53:51,270 continue their investigations of friends 1095 00:53:51,270 --> 00:53:52,938 of Bill and Hillary Clinton. 1096 00:53:52,938 --> 00:53:56,150 Jim McDougal was a smart small-town banker 1097 00:53:56,150 --> 00:53:58,068 who traveled in the cozy circle 1098 00:53:58,068 --> 00:54:01,488 where Arkansas politics and business blur. 1099 00:54:01,488 --> 00:54:04,825 - Jim McDougal was developing a property 1100 00:54:04,825 --> 00:54:07,286 and he came to Bill and he said 1101 00:54:07,286 --> 00:54:08,829 I think it's gonna be a really good deal 1102 00:54:08,829 --> 00:54:11,915 because a lot of retirees are gonna move to North Arkansas. 1103 00:54:11,915 --> 00:54:14,543 So, would you guys like to be in it? 1104 00:54:14,543 --> 00:54:16,044 - It just came at a bad time. 1105 00:54:16,044 --> 00:54:19,465 The interest rates went up, the economy went down. 1106 00:54:19,465 --> 00:54:23,719 And so, we lost the money. 1107 00:54:23,719 --> 00:54:28,557 - Jim McDougal went on to buy an S&L savings and loan. 1108 00:54:28,557 --> 00:54:30,476 The Clintons didn't own stock in it. 1109 00:54:30,476 --> 00:54:32,436 They had nothing really to do with it. 1110 00:54:32,436 --> 00:54:35,522 Hillary's law firm did a tiny bit of legal work for it 1111 00:54:35,522 --> 00:54:37,649 at one point but they weren't the main law firm. 1112 00:54:37,649 --> 00:54:38,942 In this building 1113 00:54:38,942 --> 00:54:40,778 the McDougals ran an S&L Madison Guaranty 1114 00:54:40,778 --> 00:54:43,489 which the government has since shut down. 1115 00:54:43,489 --> 00:54:46,617 - Ultimately, Jim McDougal gets convicted of fraud, 1116 00:54:46,617 --> 00:54:48,118 sent to prison. 1117 00:54:48,118 --> 00:54:49,703 The question was always how much did Bill Clinton 1118 00:54:49,703 --> 00:54:51,371 know what Jim McDougal was doing? 1119 00:54:51,371 --> 00:54:52,998 How much did Hillary Clinton know 1120 00:54:52,998 --> 00:54:54,166 what Jim McDougal was doing? 1121 00:54:54,166 --> 00:54:56,752 Should they have known if they didn't? 1122 00:54:56,752 --> 00:54:57,920 But to the Clintons, 1123 00:54:57,920 --> 00:55:01,089 Whitewater becomes a metaphor for Washington. 1124 00:55:01,089 --> 00:55:04,426 A metaphor for how people are out to get them. 1125 00:55:04,426 --> 00:55:08,472 And that Whitewater was used as a vehicle to do just that. 1126 00:55:08,472 --> 00:55:10,849 - I mean going all the way back to the Whitewater days, 1127 00:55:10,849 --> 00:55:12,184 I don't understand. 1128 00:55:12,184 --> 00:55:13,769 I've never understood this. 1129 00:55:13,769 --> 00:55:16,813 And I probably will go to my grave not understanding it. 1130 00:55:17,981 --> 00:55:20,025 All these things about us get disproved. 1131 00:55:21,360 --> 00:55:25,405 But the press, and I'm talking about the major organs 1132 00:55:25,405 --> 00:55:26,907 of the press, 1133 00:55:26,907 --> 00:55:31,203 not the Breitbarts and the Infowars and the crazy people. 1134 00:55:31,912 --> 00:55:33,914 They always bite. 1135 00:55:33,914 --> 00:55:36,375 And I don't know why. 1136 00:55:36,375 --> 00:55:37,668 I mean it must be, 1137 00:55:37,668 --> 00:55:39,628 there's an old joke about an old guy 1138 00:55:39,628 --> 00:55:44,591 who is you know walking along the edge of a cliff and, 1139 00:55:44,591 --> 00:55:47,052 he slips and as he's falling down, 1140 00:55:47,052 --> 00:55:49,471 he grabs onto a branch and he's holding on. 1141 00:55:49,471 --> 00:55:52,641 And he's praying and he's going, God, God, 1142 00:55:52,641 --> 00:55:54,643 I've lived a good life you know I have. 1143 00:55:54,643 --> 00:55:56,353 I've done everything I'm supposed to do. 1144 00:55:56,353 --> 00:55:58,522 I was a good husband, I was a good father. 1145 00:55:58,522 --> 00:56:01,108 I was an honest businessperson. 1146 00:56:01,108 --> 00:56:03,777 Please, lord, help me, help me. 1147 00:56:03,777 --> 00:56:05,696 And this voice, you know, just comes out and says, 1148 00:56:05,696 --> 00:56:07,072 you know, there's just something about you 1149 00:56:07,072 --> 00:56:08,198 that pisses me off. 1150 00:56:09,741 --> 00:56:12,744 - The Washington Post became quite seriously interested 1151 00:56:12,744 --> 00:56:15,789 in what happened and put a couple of people on the story 1152 00:56:15,789 --> 00:56:18,417 and began asking for documents from the White House. 1153 00:56:18,417 --> 00:56:22,170 - There was a famous moment when the Washington Post 1154 00:56:22,170 --> 00:56:25,591 offered the Clintons to just sit down 1155 00:56:25,591 --> 00:56:27,426 and make everything public. 1156 00:56:27,426 --> 00:56:29,219 Just answer all of our questions 1157 00:56:29,219 --> 00:56:31,597 and then that will be the end of Whitewater. 1158 00:56:31,597 --> 00:56:35,851 David Gergen wanted Bill and Hillary to do that. 1159 00:56:35,851 --> 00:56:38,353 - I was told by our lawyers 1160 00:56:38,353 --> 00:56:40,230 that there are some embarrassing things in there 1161 00:56:40,230 --> 00:56:42,107 but there is nothing criminal. 1162 00:56:42,107 --> 00:56:44,568 I told the president it's gonna be a three-day story. 1163 00:56:44,568 --> 00:56:48,155 Just get it out in the open, deal with it and move on. 1164 00:56:50,073 --> 00:56:52,326 He said, you know you're right. 1165 00:56:52,326 --> 00:56:53,493 Let's do it. 1166 00:56:53,493 --> 00:56:55,412 I said fine, great. 1167 00:56:55,412 --> 00:56:56,913 So, I started to walk out and he said, 1168 00:56:56,913 --> 00:56:58,498 but there is one thing we didn't talk about. 1169 00:56:58,498 --> 00:57:00,000 I said what's that? 1170 00:57:00,000 --> 00:57:01,585 And he said you know Hillary was involved in this too. 1171 00:57:01,585 --> 00:57:02,794 I said, yeah, I know that. 1172 00:57:02,794 --> 00:57:05,547 And he said, well, we need her agreement too. 1173 00:57:05,547 --> 00:57:08,133 I said fine get back to me when you have it. 1174 00:57:08,133 --> 00:57:09,718 And he said, no, no, you don't understand. 1175 00:57:09,718 --> 00:57:11,386 You have to go get her agreement. 1176 00:57:13,221 --> 00:57:15,557 And I was sort of thinking she's not my wife, 1177 00:57:15,557 --> 00:57:17,726 Kemosabe, you know what. 1178 00:57:17,726 --> 00:57:20,646 I got a call from Hillary's people 1179 00:57:20,646 --> 00:57:22,856 saying we've sent a letter over to the Washington Post 1180 00:57:22,856 --> 00:57:26,276 basically Dear Washington Post, screw you. 1181 00:57:26,276 --> 00:57:28,028 We're not giving you any documents. 1182 00:57:29,488 --> 00:57:33,450 - I take responsibility for the unfortunate relationship 1183 00:57:33,450 --> 00:57:35,452 that I have with the press. 1184 00:57:35,452 --> 00:57:39,498 I was too quick to be defensive. 1185 00:57:39,498 --> 00:57:42,167 I didn't play the game well enough. 1186 00:57:42,167 --> 00:57:44,419 I knew there was a game to be played 1187 00:57:44,419 --> 00:57:46,838 and I was striking out all the time. 1188 00:57:47,673 --> 00:57:48,674 - Hi, guys. 1189 00:57:48,674 --> 00:57:51,802 Ho, ho, ho. 1190 00:57:59,935 --> 00:58:01,186 - No, we're having a good time. 1191 00:58:01,186 --> 00:58:02,604 Did it ruin Christmas for you? 1192 00:58:02,604 --> 00:58:04,481 - No, no. 1193 00:58:04,481 --> 00:58:08,619 - The press started demanding a special counsel. 1194 00:58:08,619 --> 00:58:09,971 We gotta have a special counsel. 1195 00:58:09,971 --> 00:58:11,530 We gotta have a special counsel. 1196 00:58:11,530 --> 00:58:12,823 And you advised him not to? 1197 00:58:12,823 --> 00:58:14,074 - Absolutely, I advised him not to 1198 00:58:14,074 --> 00:58:15,534 and anybody else who would listen 1199 00:58:15,534 --> 00:58:17,994 I said it was a terrible mistake and you shouldn't do it. 1200 00:58:17,994 --> 00:58:20,038 I didn't think we had done anything wrong, 1201 00:58:20,038 --> 00:58:21,998 why would we agree to that? 1202 00:58:21,998 --> 00:58:23,333 But you'll have to ask Bill. 1203 00:58:23,333 --> 00:58:26,628 I mean he basically was told if he didn't 1204 00:58:26,628 --> 00:58:28,797 it would be on the front page all the time 1205 00:58:28,797 --> 00:58:30,465 and all the other things he was doing 1206 00:58:30,465 --> 00:58:33,552 that were so important would get drowned out. 1207 00:58:33,552 --> 00:58:35,887 - I told them to go ahead to do it. 1208 00:58:35,887 --> 00:58:37,514 It's the worst mistake I ever made. 1209 00:58:37,514 --> 00:58:39,015 It was a terrible mistake. 1210 00:58:39,015 --> 00:58:40,559 Today the White House 1211 00:58:40,559 --> 00:58:42,894 finally gave into demands for a special prosecutor. 1212 00:58:42,894 --> 00:58:44,312 - The Attorney General Janet Reno 1213 00:58:44,312 --> 00:58:46,857 has named a Republican lawyer to be what everybody 1214 00:58:46,857 --> 00:58:49,526 will surely call the Whitewater special counsel. 1215 00:58:49,526 --> 00:58:51,361 - All of us who were working 1216 00:58:51,361 --> 00:58:55,282 in these senior roles were subpoenaed. 1217 00:58:55,282 --> 00:58:57,075 Everything was asked about. 1218 00:58:57,075 --> 00:58:59,619 And it got to the point where 1219 00:58:59,619 --> 00:59:03,582 you couldn't get any work done. 1220 00:59:03,582 --> 00:59:05,208 The first lady who so jealously 1221 00:59:05,208 --> 00:59:08,211 guards her privacy suddenly decided to open up today. 1222 00:59:08,211 --> 00:59:09,755 Mrs. Clinton, Mrs. Clinton... 1223 00:59:09,755 --> 00:59:12,591 - How does my husband ever make these choices? 1224 00:59:12,591 --> 00:59:13,759 These are hard choices. 1225 00:59:15,093 --> 00:59:17,554 - I'm wondering what kind of a toll if any 1226 00:59:17,554 --> 00:59:20,766 this has taken on you 1227 00:59:20,766 --> 00:59:24,561 and your and the President's personal and political lives. 1228 00:59:24,561 --> 00:59:25,854 And do you ever look in the mirror 1229 00:59:25,854 --> 00:59:29,483 and wish that you just never got into this? 1230 00:59:29,483 --> 00:59:31,109 - No, never, never. 1231 00:59:31,109 --> 00:59:33,403 I mean some days are better than other days but, 1232 00:59:34,571 --> 00:59:36,072 I try to do what I'm expected to do 1233 00:59:36,072 --> 00:59:38,033 which for me is working on healthcare. 1234 00:59:38,033 --> 00:59:41,036 Mrs. Clinton, Mrs. Clinton... 1235 00:59:41,286 --> 00:59:42,454 - After the Whitewater 1236 00:59:42,454 --> 00:59:45,499 people had these extreme reactions to her. 1237 00:59:45,499 --> 00:59:47,751 So, when healthcare is rolling out 1238 00:59:47,751 --> 00:59:49,377 there was a lot of question about whether 1239 00:59:49,377 --> 00:59:52,380 she should remain you know in such a visible role. 1240 00:59:53,590 --> 00:59:55,926 I remember we did a bus tour 1241 00:59:55,926 --> 00:59:58,887 trying to promote quote Hillarycare. 1242 00:59:58,887 --> 01:00:03,391 There were just so many protesters and hecklers. 1243 01:00:03,391 --> 01:00:04,935 Whitewater shame on you. 1244 01:00:04,935 --> 01:00:06,645 Whitewater shame on you. 1245 01:00:06,645 --> 01:00:08,438 Whitewater shame on you. 1246 01:00:08,438 --> 01:00:10,273 Whitewater shame on you. 1247 01:00:10,273 --> 01:00:12,275 Whitewater shame on you. 1248 01:00:16,822 --> 01:00:19,991 - You know there is an old saying that I always liked 1249 01:00:19,991 --> 01:00:21,451 and that is that 1250 01:00:21,451 --> 01:00:24,955 if you don't have the facts on your side, yell. 1251 01:00:27,499 --> 01:00:29,835 And there is a lot of yelling going on. 1252 01:00:29,835 --> 01:00:31,002 - Get out of town. 1253 01:00:31,002 --> 01:00:32,128 Get out of town. 1254 01:00:32,128 --> 01:00:34,673 - There was a rally in Kentucky 1255 01:00:34,673 --> 01:00:36,633 where they burned her in effigy. 1256 01:00:39,678 --> 01:00:43,974 - It was really scary because you never knew 1257 01:00:43,974 --> 01:00:48,103 if somebody could you know just lose it. 1258 01:00:49,354 --> 01:00:51,147 - The Secret Service came to me 1259 01:00:51,147 --> 01:00:54,025 and said there could be violence. 1260 01:00:54,025 --> 01:00:55,235 Violence? 1261 01:00:55,235 --> 01:00:59,573 They'd collected knives and firearms. 1262 01:00:59,573 --> 01:01:01,157 It was the first time 1263 01:01:01,157 --> 01:01:05,328 that I remember being physically threatened. 1264 01:01:07,664 --> 01:01:09,708 Just so much hatred 1265 01:01:09,708 --> 01:01:15,674 and the whole thing became toxic, absolutely toxic. 1266 01:01:17,632 --> 01:01:19,718 - And so, what began as I think a noble cause 1267 01:01:19,718 --> 01:01:20,802 went down in flames, 1268 01:01:22,220 --> 01:01:25,390 against an opposition that was very, very tough. 1269 01:01:25,390 --> 01:01:27,893 There is no question that the Republicans wanted to kill it. 1270 01:01:27,893 --> 01:01:29,561 Cruel news for the estimated 1271 01:01:29,561 --> 01:01:32,397 one out of seven Americans who are uninsured 1272 01:01:32,397 --> 01:01:34,524 healthcare reform has been pronounced dead 1273 01:01:34,524 --> 01:01:36,359 for this session of Congress. 1274 01:01:36,359 --> 01:01:38,612 If you could have changed anything, 1275 01:01:38,612 --> 01:01:41,031 any mistakes that you felt you made? 1276 01:01:41,031 --> 01:01:43,617 - I made, we made so many mistakes. 1277 01:01:43,617 --> 01:01:45,619 I mean we were trying to do something 1278 01:01:45,619 --> 01:01:47,120 that had never been done before. 1279 01:01:47,120 --> 01:01:51,625 And I don't think I would have taken the upfront role. 1280 01:01:51,625 --> 01:01:53,084 I think that was a mistake. 1281 01:01:53,084 --> 01:01:55,045 I think that somebody else 1282 01:01:55,045 --> 01:01:56,421 could have and should have led it. 1283 01:01:56,421 --> 01:01:58,506 I could have been an advocate for it. 1284 01:01:58,506 --> 01:02:00,175 I would have been a passion advocate. 1285 01:02:00,175 --> 01:02:02,093 I could have traveled the country. 1286 01:02:02,093 --> 01:02:05,055 But to take on the responsibility of chairing it 1287 01:02:05,055 --> 01:02:08,183 and all that that entailed and all the red flags 1288 01:02:08,183 --> 01:02:11,102 that that put up, that was a mistake. 1289 01:02:11,102 --> 01:02:13,313 I should not have done that. 1290 01:02:16,066 --> 01:02:21,071 I was really crushed when healthcare went down. 1291 01:02:22,447 --> 01:02:26,076 And then the election happened, the '94 election. 1292 01:02:26,076 --> 01:02:28,954 - This is truly a wildly historic night. 1293 01:02:28,954 --> 01:02:31,748 I mean this is just, you know. 1294 01:02:31,748 --> 01:02:33,583 For the first time in 40 years, 1295 01:02:33,583 --> 01:02:37,087 the Republicans have won control of both houses of Congress. 1296 01:02:37,087 --> 01:02:39,130 - It was a catastrophe. 1297 01:02:39,130 --> 01:02:41,132 And they came in guns blazing. 1298 01:02:42,634 --> 01:02:45,136 And a lot of those guns pointed at Hillary. 1299 01:02:45,136 --> 01:02:48,556 - And she is at a loss at this moment. 1300 01:02:48,556 --> 01:02:50,058 She doesn't know what her role is gonna be. 1301 01:02:50,058 --> 01:02:51,059 It's not gonna be healthcare. 1302 01:02:51,059 --> 01:02:52,644 What is she gonna do? 1303 01:02:52,644 --> 01:02:55,522 - So, I thought, you know, I have to recede. 1304 01:02:58,650 --> 01:03:02,779 I just created too much static. 1305 01:03:08,451 --> 01:03:12,038 So, after all of that, how do you move on? 1306 01:03:12,038 --> 01:03:13,623 - Well, if somebody, 1307 01:03:13,623 --> 01:03:16,167 not just somebody, a number of somebodies are attacking you, 1308 01:03:16,167 --> 01:03:18,753 lying about you, making up stuff about you, 1309 01:03:20,171 --> 01:03:21,673 you got two choices. 1310 01:03:21,673 --> 01:03:23,258 You just can walk away and say I don't care 1311 01:03:23,258 --> 01:03:26,511 what they believe and you know whatever, whatever, whatever. 1312 01:03:26,511 --> 01:03:32,350 Or more hopefully you can say 1313 01:03:32,350 --> 01:03:33,810 I'm not gonna let it bother me. 1314 01:03:33,810 --> 01:03:35,770 And I'm gonna fight back in every way that I can fight back. 1315 01:03:35,770 --> 01:03:37,647 And sometimes you're successful and sometimes you're not. 1316 01:03:37,647 --> 01:03:39,190 I mean people still believe weird, 1317 01:03:39,190 --> 01:03:40,400 wacky things about me 1318 01:03:40,400 --> 01:03:43,361 because they've been told over and over again 1319 01:03:43,361 --> 01:03:45,989 that you know I killed people, I robbed people. 1320 01:03:45,989 --> 01:03:48,241 I mean who the heck knows what they're told. 101677

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