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Steve Fulcher was found guilty
of two counts of gross misconduct
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and received
two final written warnings.
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He chose not to appeal
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and made the decision to resign
from the force.
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I think we should all remember that.
He was not sacked.
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He chose to leave.
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There has been much speculation
by Fulcher
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and, consequently, the media,
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in relation to possible other
victims of Christopher Halliwell.
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We at Wiltshire Police
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made the ethical decision
to maintain a position
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of not rising to these sensational
and unsubstantiated claims
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because we believe
this would lead to a media frenzy.
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The murder of Becky Godden
has raised a number of issues,
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including the
Police And Criminal Evidence Act,
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which was introduced in 1984.
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I believe that,
if PACE is ethically followed
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and delivered in line
with the codes of practice,
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the right outcomes can be achieved
without evidence being inadmissible.
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FLURRY OF QUESTIONS
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OK, gentlemen,
I am now going to take you through
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the basic stages
of the intelligence cycle.
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Stage one
will be planning and direction,
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in which we evaluate opportunities
and decide on strategy.
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Er, do you want to...?
HE SPEAKS IN ARABIC
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Thank you.
So, that's planning and direction.
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Next, collection...
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LOUD EXPLOSION
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Is this the same one?
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Yeah.
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Christ...
Do you ever get used to that?
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OK. Er, as I was saying,
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stage two is collection.
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When?
Yesterday.
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I've told you before,
don't believe everything you read.
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It's perfectly safe. Don't worry.
It was on BBC News.
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There was a suicide bomb in Benghazi
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only about half a mile
from your barracks.
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It's news to me.
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How have you been?
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I'm really enjoying it.
I'm...
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..feeling pretty chilled, actually.
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And at least I'm wanted here.
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I know you couldn't care less,
but Debs Peach told me
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Pat Geenty's retired
for personal reasons
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and Mike Veale
is now Chief Constable.
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I just thought
you could do with a laugh.
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You know what?
You're right.
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I really...
couldn't care less any more.
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Well, that's all my news.
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We love you very much
and can't wait to see you.
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I've got to go because I'm meeting
the girls at the cinema tonight.
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OK.
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All right...
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Give them my love.
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I love you.
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Please, be careful.
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Mm-hm.
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LINE RINGS
Hello?
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Debs...
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What the fuck is going on?
I wondered when you'd find out.
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They've finally given Mike Veale
the top job?
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And he's already been talking
about you.
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Blaming you for the fact
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they still haven't charged Halliwell
over Becky Godden.
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They've had years
to come up with enough evidence.
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It's all wearing a bit thin, this,
isn't it, still blaming me?
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Yeah.
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What happened with that stuff
they dug up at the lake...
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..at Ramsbury?
60 items of clothing.
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You'd think they'd have assigned
a big team to it, wouldn't you?
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Oh, what...?
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They haven't done anything?
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Let's just say, apparently,
there hasn't been much progress.
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They've only just put
a small team on it.
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And it's being headed up by
Sean Memory,
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who's now a Detective
Superintendent, by the way.
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Do you know what, I think I'd rather
be here
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with mad Libyans
throwing bombs at me
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than anywhere near
Gable fucking Cross.
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How long are you out there for?
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I've got another six months.
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And don't mention anything
about bombs to Yvonne.
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Please.
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CHARLIE: Karen?
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Come on, love,
we'd better get going.
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Let's at least hear
what he's got to say.
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I've written an open letter
to Halliwell
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asking him to tell the truth
about what he did to Becky.
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I'm not expecting a response,
but I just...
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..have to try to keep her
in the public eye.
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Cos she doesn't matter
as much as Sian, you see?
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Because Sian was just a normal girl
who worked in an office.
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A good girl.
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But Becky was a bad girl.
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A bad little girl
who must have deserved it.Karen...
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Well, I know that's what
everyone thinks!
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Listen to me.
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I am convinced that, because of you,
the Police and Crime Commissioner
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is pressuring Wiltshire Police
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into looking for new evidence
to bring Halliwell to trial.
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So, whatever it is you're doing,
it's working.
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Oh, God...
There, you see?
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Oh, thank you very much.
Thank you.
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I won't give up.
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DOORBELL CHIMES
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Hi, Kev.
Hi, Elaine.
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How are you?
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Are you OK, love?
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I'm just feeling it a bit
at the moment.
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It's been hard.
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You get people in the pub
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who think they're trying to be nice,
rather than spiteful,
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but they say, "Don't you wish
you'd gone out with her that night?"
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I ask myself that all the time.
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You mustn't think about it
like that, Kev.
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She died because of Christopher
Halliwell, not anybody else.
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Certainly not you.
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Is that what you wanted
to see me about?
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Because that's easy to deal with.
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No, it's not that.
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Well, what, then, love?
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I'm seeing somebody else.
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Oh.
I'm sorry.
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Listen to me,
you must never apologise
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for getting on with your life.
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I feel so bloody guilty.
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No!
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Sian's not here.
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What are you supposed to do, pine
for her for the rest of your life?
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It's a comfort to me
that she knew what it was
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to share a life with someone,
that she was loved and cherished.
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But now she's gone and...
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..I'm glad for you
that you have someone else.
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I had to come here
and tell you about Emma
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before you found out
from anyone else.
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Is that her name, Emma?
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Why don't you bring her
to the wedding?
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Are you sure?
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Please.
It's important to me.
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Bring her, Kev.
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I can meet her before, if you like.
Take the pressure off.
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Thank you.
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And this is everything you have?
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Well, we do have some other leads
we're following up,
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but basically, yes, it is.
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I thought there were some items
recovered from a pond
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with Sian's boots.
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Does any of that relate to Becky?
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We did find some stuff, yeah.
But a lot of it had rotted.
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And we've not been able to match
any of it yet to Becky's clothing
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or descriptions of clothing
of any missing persons, so...
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I'd say we've got enough here
to re-arrest and charge
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and get it to court.
Mm-hm.
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But maybe not enough
to convince a jury to convict.
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Right.
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It's all consistent with Halliwell
having murdered Rebecca Godden.
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And this prostitute who links
the two of them is helpful.
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But nothing actually says he did it.
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The elephant in the room is,
of course, the confession.
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Well, that was ruled inadmissible,
so... Wrongly.
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In my opinion.
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But with a different judge,
a different set of circumstances,
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there may be a way we can
get it allowed this time round.
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How?
The key, ironically enough,
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is for Halliwell to come out
and say, "I didn't do it."
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Remember, he's never had to actually
state a defence for Rebecca Godden
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because the case was thrown out.
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He'll probably stay silent and
just challenge us to make our case,
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as is his right.
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But if he now tries to claim
he's never met her,
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or words to that effect,
that's the game-changer.
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His confession directly contradicts
this. So, it's unlikely, of course.
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Any lawyer worth his salt would
advise him to keep his mouth shut.
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But if he did, that gives us
the grounds to ask the judge
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to revisit the original ruling.
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If that happens, Steve Fulcher
would have to give evidence.
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And his relationship
with Wiltshire Police is not great,
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to say the least.
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It's by far the strongest evidence
we have.
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HE SIGHS
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DOORBELL CHIMES
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Mum, don't embarrass me, OK?
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I really like this one.
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Hey!
Hey...
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Mum...
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This is Kev.
Hiya.
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Hi, Kev.
Nice to meet you.
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And you.
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Do you want a cuppa?
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Please, yeah.
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Elaine...
This is Emma.
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Pleased to meet you, love.
Thanks.
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Sorry it's in
such difficult circumstances.
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Well, that's not your fault, is it?
Come on, sit down.
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Coffee?
Yeah, please.
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Two coffees, please.
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So...
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How did you meet?
Tell me everything.
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Erm, just round a friend's house.
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We got chatting
and it sort of clicked.
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We went out a few times.
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I done her a chicken pasta
and that sealed the deal.
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Kev's a really good cook.
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You're not so bad.
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She's brilliant, Elaine.
He's just being kind, honestly.
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So, how's the wedding stuff going,
then, Elaine?
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Getting there. Actually,
I'm just going to go to the loo.
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SHE SOBS QUIETLY
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SHE STARTS TO SOB LOUDLY
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DOOR SWINGS OPEN
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LOUD SOBBING
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SOBBING CONTINUES
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Christopher John Halliwell,
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I'm arresting you
for the murder of Rebecca Godden,
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contrary to common law.
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You do not have to say anything,
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but it may harm your defence
if you do not mention,
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when questioned, something
which you later rely on in court.
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Anything you do say
may be given in evidence.
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Do you understand?
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HE SNIFFS
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Mm.
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OK, I'm going to take you now
to Worcester Police Station,
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where you will be interviewed
in the presence of a solicitor.
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I don't want a solicitor.
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Pardon?
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I don't want a solicitor.
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I want to see
what you have to say first.
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Who's in charge of this case?
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That would be Detective
Superintendent Sean Memory.
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If...
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..I wrap this up in...
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..in the next few hours,
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any other charges against me...
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..various things in the past...
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You're talking about car thefts,
break-ins, bits and pieces?
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Some more... serious.
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Will clearing this up
be enough to stop everything else?
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If Mr Memory is listening,
the ball is in his court.
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Get a print set up. If we can get
a confession now, that's it...
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..no need for Fulcher.
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Now, what I'm saying there, Chris,
and I've signed it at the bottom...
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..is that I lead the investigation
into Becky Godden.
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I'm not aware of any other
allegations against you.
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And I'm not investigating you for
any other offence, apart from Becky.
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If I clear this up, I don't want you
coming back every two years saying,
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"What about this?
What about that?"
251
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This interview is about one matter
and one matter only.
252
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But at this point in time...
253
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..I'm not aware of any other
allegations against you.
254
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OK.
255
00:14:33,050 --> 00:14:35,353
Erm...
256
00:14:35,354 --> 00:14:39,001
Actually,
before I do anything else...
257
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..I think I'd better get
my solicitor to check it first.
258
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Is that OK?
259
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No, that's fine.
260
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HE DROPS THE PEN ON THE TABLE
261
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He's got no intention
of clearing anything up.
262
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He's playing with us.
263
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He just wanted to know
what we've got.
264
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SPOON TINKLES ON A GLASS
265
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Ladies and gentlemen...
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..my wife and I...
267
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GUESTS: Whoooo!
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APPLAUSE
269
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..would like to thank you all
sincerely for coming.
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It really is...
271
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It's wonderful to have you all
with us on this special day.
272
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And I'd like to thank the children,
273
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my three and Elaine's,
274
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for being there for us...
275
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..through everything.
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And of course...
277
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..I must mention Sian.
278
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Now, we all remember those dark days
when she went missing.
279
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When there was nothing we could do
but sit and hope.
280
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Yeah, we'd get little bits
and pieces of information,
281
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but not the message
that we really wanted to hear.
282
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That she was safe and well...
283
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..and coming home.
284
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What was all that about?
I asked him, Jackie.
285
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I said, "Please, don't talk
about Sian too much."
286
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But he had it all planned out
in his head what he wanted to do.
287
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He's planned everything today.
He likes to be...
288
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..in control.
He likes to organise everything.
289
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He likes to take over, more like.
I care about him a lot. I do.
290
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He is a good person.
291
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I don't want to be on my own,
Jackie. I want to be married.
292
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I know.
293
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Halliwell has parted company
with the lawyers
294
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who represented him
at the first trial.
295
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Really?
Why would he do that?
296
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Well, it would seem he has decided
297
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he wants to represent himself
in court.
298
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Bloody hell.
299
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Precisely.
300
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So, this morning, Halliwell finally
issued an outline of his defence,
301
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which he's composed himself.
302
00:17:12,602 --> 00:17:14,353
We've been asking for it for weeks.
303
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It says simply he has no knowledge
of the death of Rebecca Godden,
304
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nor any information
regarding details of how she died.
305
00:17:25,082 --> 00:17:27,793
I think we have our game-changer.
306
00:17:27,794 --> 00:17:29,881
The confession now comes into play.
307
00:17:29,882 --> 00:17:33,011
We can ask the new judge
to reconsider admitting it.
308
00:17:41,234 --> 00:17:44,473
An email came through this morning
from the CPS
309
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saying that Wiltshire Police
have discovered new evidence
310
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against Halliwell
for Becky Godden's murder
311
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and that he's been charged
as a result.
312
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But in the next breath they say
313
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they want to try and reintroduce
the confession evidence.
314
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You're joking? Well, do you want
an even bigger laugh?
315
00:17:58,682 --> 00:18:00,793
If they do manage
to get it ruled admissible,
316
00:18:00,794 --> 00:18:03,673
they want me to come back
and give evidence at the trial.
317
00:18:03,674 --> 00:18:07,513
After all they've done to you,
now they want you to help them out?
318
00:18:07,514 --> 00:18:11,161
The new evidence obviously
can't be that strong, can it?
319
00:18:11,162 --> 00:18:13,081
It's not ever going to end, is it?
320
00:18:13,082 --> 00:18:15,793
For fuck's sake...
321
00:18:15,794 --> 00:18:18,073
Oh, hello.
Come in.
322
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FRONT DOOR CLOSES
323
00:18:20,186 --> 00:18:21,553
Hi, Karen.
Hello.
324
00:18:21,554 --> 00:18:23,833
Come in, sit down.
No, no, I can't stay for long.
325
00:18:23,834 --> 00:18:25,393
I, erm...
326
00:18:25,394 --> 00:18:27,153
I just came to tell you
that we are hopeful
327
00:18:27,154 --> 00:18:29,785
of finally bringing charges
against Halliwell over Becky.
328
00:18:29,786 --> 00:18:32,113
SHE GASPS
He's been arrested.
329
00:18:32,114 --> 00:18:34,833
We're still working
to strengthen the case against him.
330
00:18:34,834 --> 00:18:37,081
But we think we can go to trial.
331
00:18:37,082 --> 00:18:40,345
But how?
We've been working hard on the case
332
00:18:40,346 --> 00:18:43,473
and we've dug up
plenty of new evidence.
333
00:18:43,474 --> 00:18:46,681
Can we know what it is?
I can't say too much now,
334
00:18:46,682 --> 00:18:48,601
but the evidence is compelling.
335
00:18:48,602 --> 00:18:51,673
There's a little way to go yet,
but we're optimistic.
336
00:18:51,674 --> 00:18:54,993
Oh, that is so fantastic!
337
00:18:54,994 --> 00:18:56,913
We'd almost given up hope,
hadn't we?
338
00:18:56,914 --> 00:19:00,121
I will, of course, be in touch
if there's any more news, OK?
339
00:19:00,122 --> 00:19:02,673
Thanks for coming to tell us, Sean.
340
00:19:02,674 --> 00:19:04,921
Well, it's important
we're all on the same page, right?
341
00:19:04,922 --> 00:19:07,953
Well, thanks a million, Sean.
Yeah, thanks.
342
00:19:07,954 --> 00:19:10,681
FRONT DOOR OPENS
343
00:19:10,682 --> 00:19:13,561
FRONT DOOR CLOSES
344
00:19:13,562 --> 00:19:15,313
Oh, Charlie, I've...
345
00:19:15,314 --> 00:19:17,233
I've got a knot in my tummy.
346
00:19:17,234 --> 00:19:20,753
But why? We've just had the best
bloody news you could hope for.
347
00:19:20,754 --> 00:19:22,833
But what if it doesn't work again?
348
00:19:22,834 --> 00:19:25,081
What if another ruling
goes against us or something?
349
00:19:25,082 --> 00:19:27,385
Because, if we don't get him
this time, we never will.
350
00:19:27,386 --> 00:19:32,761
Always the gloomiest way
of looking at it, that's you!
351
00:19:32,762 --> 00:19:35,641
Yeah, well, I've had that smashed
into me, haven't I, over the years?
352
00:19:35,642 --> 00:19:39,953
There hasn't been much
to be optimistic about, has there?
353
00:19:39,954 --> 00:19:42,937
Elaine, look at where you are
right now.
354
00:19:42,938 --> 00:19:44,913
What are you doing?
355
00:19:44,914 --> 00:19:48,593
I mean, you've given up your job,
you've even sold your car.
356
00:19:48,594 --> 00:19:51,001
Pete prefers to drive.
357
00:19:51,002 --> 00:19:53,233
SHE SIGHS
358
00:19:53,234 --> 00:19:57,145
It's not right, Elaine.
It's got to stop.
359
00:19:57,146 --> 00:19:58,681
It's just you're not you any more.
360
00:19:58,682 --> 00:20:01,561
You don't even behave like you
any more.
361
00:20:01,562 --> 00:20:04,825
To be honest, I feel like I've had
the stuffing knocked out of me.
362
00:20:04,826 --> 00:20:07,321
I can't stand
any sort of confrontation.
363
00:20:07,322 --> 00:20:10,673
There's just so much tension
in the house.
364
00:20:10,674 --> 00:20:12,860
I feel like I've lost
all my confidence.
365
00:20:23,474 --> 00:20:25,271
Thanks.
366
00:20:39,634 --> 00:20:40,921
Hi.
367
00:20:40,922 --> 00:20:48,217
Do you mind?
368
00:20:48,218 --> 00:20:50,905
I just think I'm being an idiot
for coming out and helping them.
369
00:20:50,906 --> 00:20:52,825
You're not helping them out, though,
are you?
370
00:20:52,826 --> 00:20:54,033
This isn't about them, is it?
371
00:20:54,034 --> 00:20:56,593
Well, they deserve to be left
on the beach, with the tide out,
372
00:20:56,594 --> 00:20:59,161
looking like the fucking idiots
they are.
373
00:20:59,162 --> 00:21:01,358
But Karen doesn't.
374
00:21:02,146 --> 00:21:03,600
But Karen doesn't.
375
00:21:11,066 --> 00:21:16,913
You're doing the right thing.
376
00:21:16,914 --> 00:21:18,349
Thank you.
377
00:21:45,626 --> 00:21:47,353
Here.
Cheers, Aiden.
378
00:21:47,354 --> 00:21:49,873
Here.
379
00:21:49,874 --> 00:21:51,313
Thanks, love.
380
00:21:51,314 --> 00:21:52,921
We're going to go.
381
00:21:52,922 --> 00:21:54,841
Don't you think it's better
to wait and face him,
382
00:21:54,842 --> 00:21:57,145
rather than doing it like this?
383
00:21:57,146 --> 00:21:58,873
I told him I was moving out today.
384
00:21:58,874 --> 00:22:00,985
Yeah, but he didn't believe you,
did he?
385
00:22:00,986 --> 00:22:04,825
Look, I couldn't honestly handle him
trying to talk me out of it.
386
00:22:04,826 --> 00:22:07,153
This way, it's much better.
It's not Pete's fault.
387
00:22:07,154 --> 00:22:11,545
I should never have married him.
So, why did you?
388
00:22:11,546 --> 00:22:13,273
I just thought,
after what's happened,
389
00:22:13,274 --> 00:22:15,633
I needed someone
to take control of my life for me.
390
00:22:15,634 --> 00:22:20,433
It's the worst thing
I could have done, all right?
391
00:22:20,434 --> 00:22:22,112
Oh, nice one.
SHE SIGHS
392
00:22:30,994 --> 00:22:33,241
SHE KNOCKS
Mr Fulcher to see you.
393
00:22:33,242 --> 00:22:34,585
Thank you.
394
00:22:34,586 --> 00:22:36,753
Sean.
Good to see you, Steve.
395
00:22:36,754 --> 00:22:38,833
And you.
396
00:22:38,834 --> 00:22:40,153
Mr Fulcher.
Hi.
397
00:22:40,154 --> 00:22:42,841
Take a seat, please.
398
00:22:42,842 --> 00:22:44,761
I see you've got a suntan.
399
00:22:44,762 --> 00:22:48,601
I see you've got
Detective Superintendent.
400
00:22:48,602 --> 00:22:50,713
Thanks for coming in today.
We just wanted to give you
401
00:22:50,714 --> 00:22:51,953
some background on the trial.
402
00:22:51,954 --> 00:22:54,169
Right, so,
there's definitely going to be one?
403
00:22:54,170 --> 00:22:57,553
Yes. And we are definitely going
to need you to give evidence.
404
00:22:57,554 --> 00:23:00,121
Well, I'm all ears.
405
00:23:00,122 --> 00:23:02,673
Well, the pre-trial concluded
this afternoon
406
00:23:02,674 --> 00:23:05,305
and the new judge,
Mr Justice Griffith Williams,
407
00:23:05,306 --> 00:23:07,801
has ruled that the confession
made to you by Halliwell
408
00:23:07,802 --> 00:23:10,105
will be admissible as evidence.
409
00:23:10,106 --> 00:23:13,233
He was quite scathing
of Mrs Justice Cox,
410
00:23:13,234 --> 00:23:15,865
who ruled against you last time.
Mm-hm.
411
00:23:15,866 --> 00:23:19,321
Halliwell tried to have it excluded
again, based on her original ruling,
412
00:23:19,322 --> 00:23:22,585
but the new judge said that
the confession was made voluntarily.
413
00:23:22,586 --> 00:23:24,753
In his view,
there was no oppression.
414
00:23:24,754 --> 00:23:29,553
And to not allow it
would offend good sense.
415
00:23:29,554 --> 00:23:32,185
You see, I thought I'd lost
my career because other people,
416
00:23:32,186 --> 00:23:35,473
who should have known better,
decided I'd done something terrible.
417
00:23:35,474 --> 00:23:37,233
But now it
seems, apparently, I haven't.
418
00:23:37,234 --> 00:23:40,441
Look, I'd have understood
if you'd told us to fuck off.
419
00:23:40,442 --> 00:23:46,033
Yeah,
that was never going to happen.
420
00:23:46,034 --> 00:23:48,753
Hm...
421
00:23:48,754 --> 00:23:50,353
So, how does
your new Chief Constable
422
00:23:50,354 --> 00:23:52,453
feel about me
being his star witness, then?
423
00:24:02,486 --> 00:24:06,077
It's Elaine.
424
00:24:06,078 --> 00:24:08,573
Mrs Edwards,
you've been waiting for four years.
425
00:24:08,574 --> 00:24:11,285
How are you feeling about the trial?
Well, it's difficult.
426
00:24:11,286 --> 00:24:12,885
But we hope
it's going to go our way.
427
00:24:12,886 --> 00:24:17,213
How do you feel about Halliwell
representing himself, Mrs Edwards?
428
00:24:17,214 --> 00:24:20,119
REPORTERS SHOUT QUESTIONS
429
00:25:38,046 --> 00:25:41,525
When was the last time
you saw your daughter, Mrs Edwards?
430
00:25:41,526 --> 00:25:45,205
December 2002.
431
00:25:45,206 --> 00:25:47,645
She would have been 21
the following April.
432
00:25:47,646 --> 00:25:49,949
And I always thought
she'd turn up for her 21st birthday,
433
00:25:49,950 --> 00:25:52,445
but she never did.
434
00:25:52,446 --> 00:25:58,013
I got a card from her
every Mother's Day, without fail.
435
00:25:58,014 --> 00:26:02,045
But from 2003 onwards,
I never got one.
436
00:26:02,046 --> 00:26:05,693
Becky was very petite.
437
00:26:05,694 --> 00:26:09,365
She was only 4'11" tall and she
could wear children's clothing.
438
00:26:09,366 --> 00:26:14,005
You know, like,
for 12 to 14-year-olds.
439
00:26:14,006 --> 00:26:18,485
She was just a child, really.
440
00:26:18,486 --> 00:26:22,973
Miss X, you have been granted
anonymity today.
441
00:26:22,974 --> 00:26:26,237
I understand you have a history
of drug abuse and prostitution,
442
00:26:26,238 --> 00:26:28,733
which is how you met Rebecca Godden.
443
00:26:28,734 --> 00:26:30,653
That's correct, yes.
444
00:26:30,654 --> 00:26:32,573
She was a friend of mine.
445
00:26:32,574 --> 00:26:34,965
But you have turned your life around
since then
446
00:26:34,966 --> 00:26:39,101
and are now married
with two children.
447
00:26:39,102 --> 00:26:40,085
Yes.
448
00:26:40,086 --> 00:26:42,805
And my husband knows nothing
about my past life.
449
00:26:42,806 --> 00:26:44,669
And yet you still came along today,
450
00:26:44,670 --> 00:26:48,405
even though your past could have
been revealed to all and sundry.
451
00:26:48,406 --> 00:26:51,773
I thought it was important.
452
00:26:51,774 --> 00:26:54,653
I'm very grateful to you.
453
00:26:54,654 --> 00:26:59,453
Please, stay where you are.
454
00:26:59,454 --> 00:27:02,005
Mr Halliwell...
455
00:27:02,006 --> 00:27:06,557
According to you...
456
00:27:06,558 --> 00:27:09,053
..I was besotted
with Rebecca Godden.
457
00:27:09,054 --> 00:27:10,397
Correct.
458
00:27:10,398 --> 00:27:12,565
Even though
I've never met her before.
459
00:27:12,566 --> 00:27:15,445
SHE SCOFFS
460
00:27:15,446 --> 00:27:19,229
Sometimes you even give her money
to stop her going with other men.
461
00:27:19,230 --> 00:27:22,109
I remember, one night,
you picked me up for sex,
462
00:27:22,110 --> 00:27:24,245
you knew she was my mate
and you said,
463
00:27:24,246 --> 00:27:27,765
"Don't tell Becks about this."
464
00:27:27,766 --> 00:27:30,365
Right, so I'm supposed
to have had sex with you, too, yeah?
465
00:27:30,366 --> 00:27:31,765
Yes.
466
00:27:31,766 --> 00:27:35,933
Twice.
467
00:27:35,934 --> 00:27:37,277
HE SCOFFS
468
00:27:37,278 --> 00:27:39,005
You see, I think there's a chance...
469
00:27:39,006 --> 00:27:40,733
..that you could be mistaken.
470
00:27:40,734 --> 00:27:42,965
So, take a long, hard look at me
471
00:27:42,966 --> 00:27:45,365
and confirm that the person
you're talking about is me.
472
00:27:45,366 --> 00:27:47,069
Because this is serious.
473
00:27:47,070 --> 00:27:48,605
Is this a joke?
474
00:27:48,606 --> 00:27:54,365
I am one hundred million percent
sure it's you.
475
00:27:54,366 --> 00:27:58,973
If we've had sex together twice...
476
00:27:58,974 --> 00:28:02,237
..what colour are my eyes?
477
00:28:02,238 --> 00:28:03,965
I don't know.
478
00:28:03,966 --> 00:28:05,844
What colour were Becky's?
479
00:28:15,486 --> 00:28:17,405
We compared soil found on the spade
480
00:28:17,406 --> 00:28:20,093
in the garage at Christopher
Halliwell's home address
481
00:28:20,094 --> 00:28:22,397
with a sample of soil from the field
482
00:28:22,398 --> 00:28:24,893
where Rebecca Godden's body
was found.
483
00:28:24,894 --> 00:28:26,485
Becky was outside the club
484
00:28:26,486 --> 00:28:29,309
having some sort of argument
with this taxi driver.
485
00:28:29,310 --> 00:28:32,573
He was shouting at her.
It went on for quite a while.
486
00:28:32,574 --> 00:28:35,125
I'm pretty sure I heard him call her
"a fucking slag",
487
00:28:35,126 --> 00:28:37,373
or words like that.
488
00:28:37,374 --> 00:28:40,885
This row with the taxi driver,
when was that?
489
00:28:40,886 --> 00:28:43,925
Er, just after New Year 2003.
490
00:28:43,926 --> 00:28:46,485
I'm pretty sure it was the 3rd,
early in the morning.
491
00:28:46,486 --> 00:28:49,853
In the end, the driver somehow
persuaded her to get in the back
492
00:28:49,854 --> 00:28:52,349
and they drove off.
493
00:28:52,350 --> 00:28:54,325
Did you get a look at the driver?
494
00:28:54,326 --> 00:28:56,085
Not clearly, no.
495
00:28:56,086 --> 00:28:59,261
And you never saw Rebecca again
after that?
496
00:28:59,262 --> 00:29:00,413
No.
497
00:29:00,414 --> 00:29:01,565
Never.
498
00:29:01,566 --> 00:29:04,085
Nor indeed have we been able
to find anybody else who has,
499
00:29:04,086 --> 00:29:07,765
after that night.
500
00:29:07,766 --> 00:29:09,053
Mr Halliwell...
501
00:29:09,054 --> 00:29:11,933
Do you have any questions?
502
00:29:11,934 --> 00:29:14,429
Yeah, erm...
503
00:29:14,430 --> 00:29:17,365
The taxi she drove off in,
504
00:29:17,366 --> 00:29:21,917
did it have a white illuminated sign
on it saying, well, "Taxi"?
505
00:29:21,918 --> 00:29:25,205
Yeah, it did.
506
00:29:25,206 --> 00:29:26,965
Thank you.
507
00:29:26,966 --> 00:29:30,173
Because, at that time, my car
did not have a light on the roof.
508
00:29:30,174 --> 00:29:39,773
So, thank you.
509
00:29:39,774 --> 00:29:41,525
Thank you.
510
00:29:41,526 --> 00:29:43,613
The court has now broken
until tomorrow.
511
00:29:43,614 --> 00:29:49,373
If you could be back here
for 9:00am? Fine.
512
00:29:49,374 --> 00:29:52,061
I'd heard most of that evidence
before. Hadn't you?
513
00:29:52,062 --> 00:29:53,597
Mm.
514
00:29:53,598 --> 00:29:56,725
We had all that back when Steve was
around, as far as I can remember.
515
00:29:56,726 --> 00:29:58,973
So, what have they been doing
for the last five years?
516
00:29:58,974 --> 00:30:02,005
All this new evidence!
All they've got is Steve.
517
00:30:02,006 --> 00:30:04,405
And he must be so nervous,
after all this time,
518
00:30:04,406 --> 00:30:07,997
wondering what Halliwell
is going to say.
519
00:30:07,998 --> 00:30:09,940
ELECTRIC TOOTHBRUSH WHIRS
520
00:30:20,862 --> 00:30:22,205
Tell us again, Mr Fulcher,
521
00:30:22,206 --> 00:30:25,085
what Christopher Halliwell told you
that day about the second victim.
522
00:30:25,086 --> 00:30:27,005
He said he had taken a prostitute
523
00:30:27,006 --> 00:30:29,693
from the Manchester Road area
of Swindon,
524
00:30:29,694 --> 00:30:32,085
had sex with her
in the back of his taxi...
525
00:30:32,086 --> 00:30:34,325
..and then strangled her.
526
00:30:34,326 --> 00:30:37,205
I said, "Was it similar to Sian?"
He said, "Pretty much."
527
00:30:37,206 --> 00:30:39,125
I asked
if there were any other victims,
528
00:30:39,126 --> 00:30:40,637
I said, "Is it just these two?"
529
00:30:40,638 --> 00:30:42,941
And he replied, "Isn't that enough?"
530
00:30:42,942 --> 00:30:45,525
OK, let's pause there.
531
00:30:45,526 --> 00:30:48,579
I'm sure Mr Halliwell
has some questions for you.
532
00:30:59,454 --> 00:31:02,165
I couldn't care less...
533
00:31:02,166 --> 00:31:06,365
..about not being cautioned by you.
534
00:31:06,366 --> 00:31:09,845
Sorry? It didn't bother me
in the slightest that...
535
00:31:09,846 --> 00:31:11,933
..my rights were breached.
536
00:31:11,934 --> 00:31:14,325
When I was arrested on 24th March,
537
00:31:14,326 --> 00:31:17,309
that was the first day
of a life sentence.
538
00:31:17,310 --> 00:31:19,445
HE CLEARS HIS THROAT
I knew that.
539
00:31:19,446 --> 00:31:23,125
So, after I took you to Sian's body,
everything after that...
540
00:31:23,126 --> 00:31:26,717
..well, that was about pure revenge.
541
00:31:26,718 --> 00:31:28,445
I don't quite follow you.
542
00:31:28,446 --> 00:31:31,517
Well, I didn't know about PACE
and codes and all that,
543
00:31:31,518 --> 00:31:34,397
but I knew enough to know that,
if I asked to speak to a solicitor,
544
00:31:34,398 --> 00:31:37,853
then everything else should stop
until that's been given to me.
545
00:31:37,854 --> 00:31:39,125
I knew that much.
546
00:31:39,126 --> 00:31:41,693
I asked you six or seven times,
547
00:31:41,694 --> 00:31:45,149
it's all been recorded,
and you kept refusing me.
548
00:31:45,150 --> 00:31:47,285
I knew that was wrong.
549
00:31:47,286 --> 00:31:49,949
I didn't care because I knew
I could turn it to my advantage.
550
00:31:49,950 --> 00:31:52,725
So, all that whole story...
551
00:31:52,726 --> 00:31:55,133
..about burying a girl in a field...
552
00:31:55,134 --> 00:31:56,669
HE SCOFFS
553
00:31:56,670 --> 00:31:58,205
..it was just a pack of lies.
554
00:31:58,206 --> 00:32:00,893
Mr Halliwell, if you are alleging
555
00:32:00,894 --> 00:32:03,605
that revenge played a part
in what happened that day,
556
00:32:03,606 --> 00:32:05,693
you must explain yourself.
557
00:32:05,694 --> 00:32:07,613
Yeah, in a minute, Your Honour.
558
00:32:07,614 --> 00:32:12,245
I had no idea if there was a body
buried in that field in Eastleach.
559
00:32:12,246 --> 00:32:16,085
How could I if I'd never met
Rebecca Godden in my life?
560
00:32:16,086 --> 00:32:18,173
What happened was,
at the end of 2001,
561
00:32:18,174 --> 00:32:20,093
I started driving
these fellas around.
562
00:32:20,094 --> 00:32:22,397
Well...
563
00:32:22,398 --> 00:32:24,405
..drug dealers, they were.
564
00:32:24,406 --> 00:32:27,389
But I never asked them any questions
and they seemed to trust me.
565
00:32:27,390 --> 00:32:31,125
Now, one night,
at the end of March time 2003,
566
00:32:31,126 --> 00:32:34,325
they directed me out to this field
in Eastleach.
567
00:32:34,326 --> 00:32:36,029
And they carried this big holdall
568
00:32:36,030 --> 00:32:38,005
out of the boot of my taxi
into the field.
569
00:32:38,006 --> 00:32:40,253
Now, I drove off.
I came back for them later.
570
00:32:40,254 --> 00:32:42,645
I never asked them
what they were doing.
571
00:32:42,646 --> 00:32:45,437
A few months later,
I was driving one of them around
572
00:32:45,438 --> 00:32:46,973
and he was drunk, right?
573
00:32:46,974 --> 00:32:49,525
And he tells me
that they had buried...
574
00:32:49,526 --> 00:32:53,845
..a prostitute in that field
that night.
575
00:32:53,846 --> 00:32:56,381
Now, I thought he was messing
576
00:32:56,382 --> 00:32:58,301
because he said it
like it was nothing.
577
00:32:58,302 --> 00:33:01,565
So, when I took you to that field
in Eastleach,
578
00:33:01,566 --> 00:33:05,525
I had no idea
if there was a body buried there.
579
00:33:05,526 --> 00:33:07,605
And I can prove it.
580
00:33:07,606 --> 00:33:10,805
How deep down
did I say the body was buried?
581
00:33:10,806 --> 00:33:13,469
You said five feet.
That's right.
582
00:33:13,470 --> 00:33:15,773
And how deep was it actually buried?
583
00:33:15,774 --> 00:33:17,885
Er, about eight inches,
584
00:33:17,886 --> 00:33:20,085
cos the bedrock
was so close to the surface.
585
00:33:20,086 --> 00:33:21,045
Yeah.
586
00:33:21,046 --> 00:33:24,797
So, why would I say five feet
if it was only eight inches?
587
00:33:24,798 --> 00:33:27,765
Well, you also couldn't be sure
when you had murdered Becky.
588
00:33:27,766 --> 00:33:29,685
Cos I never did,
cos I'd never met her.
589
00:33:29,686 --> 00:33:32,885
You said it was in 2003, 2004
or 2005.
590
00:33:32,886 --> 00:33:35,933
So what I surmised...
591
00:33:35,934 --> 00:33:38,813
..and from you getting wrong
the depth that she was buried,
592
00:33:38,814 --> 00:33:41,501
was that you had other victims
that you had buried,
593
00:33:41,502 --> 00:33:43,997
victims that we don't yet
know about,
594
00:33:43,998 --> 00:33:46,685
and that you became confused
about which was which.
595
00:33:46,686 --> 00:33:49,565
That's an absolute pack of lies.
And you know that.
596
00:33:49,566 --> 00:33:53,405
No, I know that you told me
you had murdered a prostitute
597
00:33:53,406 --> 00:33:55,445
and buried her in that field.
598
00:33:55,446 --> 00:33:56,885
I believed...
599
00:33:56,886 --> 00:33:59,605
..in that moment,
that you were contrite
600
00:33:59,606 --> 00:34:02,645
and that you wanted to unburden
yourself. That's ridiculous.
601
00:34:02,646 --> 00:34:05,693
You said you could take me
to the exact spot in that field
602
00:34:05,694 --> 00:34:07,037
where she was buried.
603
00:34:07,038 --> 00:34:08,957
In fact, you were a few feet out,
604
00:34:08,958 --> 00:34:11,453
but we later discovered
the remains of Rebecca Godden
605
00:34:11,454 --> 00:34:14,333
in that field
that you had directed us to.
606
00:34:14,334 --> 00:34:18,365
Well, I only said that because
I wanted to get you in the shit.
607
00:34:18,366 --> 00:34:21,525
We need to know why, Mr Halliwell.
608
00:34:21,526 --> 00:34:23,445
Because he threatened my daughters.
609
00:34:23,446 --> 00:34:25,661
I did what?
You threatened my daughters.
610
00:34:25,662 --> 00:34:27,285
And nobody threatens my kids!
611
00:34:27,286 --> 00:34:29,885
Absolute rubbish. That's
why I took you to that field.
612
00:34:29,886 --> 00:34:32,085
Cos I knew for certain,
if anything was found there,
613
00:34:32,086 --> 00:34:33,533
then any third-rate solicitor
614
00:34:33,534 --> 00:34:36,413
would make mincemeat of the fact
I hadn't been cautioned
615
00:34:36,414 --> 00:34:39,125
and you'd be dropped right in it.
616
00:34:39,126 --> 00:34:43,605
But you haven't told us
what this threat was.
617
00:34:43,606 --> 00:34:45,053
I'm not going to say.
618
00:34:45,054 --> 00:34:47,165
You're not going to say?
619
00:34:47,166 --> 00:34:49,085
No.
620
00:34:49,086 --> 00:34:53,693
Don't you think it's rather
important to tell us what it was?
621
00:34:53,694 --> 00:34:55,997
Well, there's no point.
622
00:34:55,998 --> 00:34:59,645
I can't prove it.
It's my word against his.
623
00:34:59,646 --> 00:35:00,885
I see.
624
00:35:00,886 --> 00:35:06,645
So, do you have any more questions
for Mr Fulcher?
625
00:35:06,646 --> 00:35:09,685
Er...
626
00:35:09,686 --> 00:35:12,125
No.
627
00:35:12,126 --> 00:35:13,525
Very well.
628
00:35:13,526 --> 00:35:15,285
This might be a good time
to take a break.
629
00:35:15,286 --> 00:35:17,501
Er, just one more thing.
Erm...
630
00:35:17,502 --> 00:35:21,386
It was a pleasure ruining
your career, you corrupt bastard.
631
00:35:42,754 --> 00:35:47,145
"I do solemnly, sincerely
and truly declare and affirm
632
00:35:47,146 --> 00:35:49,313
"that the evidence I give
shall be the truth,
633
00:35:49,314 --> 00:35:52,952
"the whole truth
and nothing but the truth."
634
00:36:06,754 --> 00:36:11,721
You really loathe Mr Fulcher,
don't you?
635
00:36:11,722 --> 00:36:14,273
Absolutely.
636
00:36:14,274 --> 00:36:17,673
You blame him for your confessions,
don't you?
637
00:36:17,674 --> 00:36:20,833
I'm responsible for my own actions.
I've faced up to what I did to Sian.
638
00:36:20,834 --> 00:36:22,281
No, but you see, you haven't.
639
00:36:22,282 --> 00:36:25,473
You've never given a proper account
of what happened when Sian died,
640
00:36:25,474 --> 00:36:27,273
other than some nonsensical claim
641
00:36:27,274 --> 00:36:29,633
that she tried
to grab your steering wheel
642
00:36:29,634 --> 00:36:31,233
and then you went to punch her
643
00:36:31,234 --> 00:36:35,337
without realising you had a knife
in your hand.
644
00:36:35,338 --> 00:36:39,369
You abducted her for sexual
purposes, just as you did Rebecca.
645
00:36:39,370 --> 00:36:41,289
Er, that's ludicrous.
646
00:36:41,290 --> 00:36:43,401
It was an accident.
Was it?
647
00:36:43,402 --> 00:36:46,473
Is that why her leggings
and knickers were pulled down
648
00:36:46,474 --> 00:36:48,673
and her bra was missing?
649
00:36:48,674 --> 00:36:52,513
Listen,
I came here to tell the truth.
650
00:36:52,514 --> 00:36:55,497
It doesn't matter to me
if the jury believes me or not.
651
00:36:55,498 --> 00:36:57,801
Yes, you keep saying that.
But that's not true, either.
652
00:36:57,802 --> 00:37:01,065
You received 25 years
for the murder of Sian O'Callaghan.
653
00:37:01,066 --> 00:37:03,753
But there is at least a chance
you could be released,
654
00:37:03,754 --> 00:37:05,953
albeit you'd be in your 70s.
655
00:37:05,954 --> 00:37:07,785
If you're found guilty
of Rebecca's murder,
656
00:37:07,786 --> 00:37:09,153
then you will never be released.
657
00:37:09,154 --> 00:37:12,009
So, actually, there's rather a lot
riding on this.
658
00:37:12,010 --> 00:37:14,313
Which is why you've constructed
this fantasy account
659
00:37:14,314 --> 00:37:17,577
of how you led the police
to her body.
660
00:37:17,578 --> 00:37:19,713
It's what happened.
661
00:37:19,714 --> 00:37:23,393
Yes. Except, for it to be true, you
have to try and convince the jury
662
00:37:23,394 --> 00:37:27,233
you have never met Rebecca Godden.
663
00:37:27,234 --> 00:37:29,673
I... I haven't.
Which is why you're so desperate
664
00:37:29,674 --> 00:37:32,033
to try and rebut the evidence
of Miss X,
665
00:37:32,034 --> 00:37:35,433
whom you inconveniently had sex with
on two occasions.
666
00:37:35,434 --> 00:37:39,273
I've never set eyes on her before
and, to be honest...
667
00:37:39,274 --> 00:37:41,633
..she's not my type.
Not your type?
668
00:37:41,634 --> 00:37:43,233
What is your type, then?
669
00:37:43,234 --> 00:37:47,553
Well, certainly not that thin.
670
00:37:47,554 --> 00:37:50,601
Is your type size eight?
671
00:37:50,602 --> 00:37:53,865
Size ten?
672
00:37:53,866 --> 00:37:56,833
Pretty, young women who are out
and about on the streets of Swindon
673
00:37:56,834 --> 00:38:00,009
in the early hours of the morning,
is that your type?
674
00:38:00,010 --> 00:38:03,657
About five feet,
five feet two inches tall,
675
00:38:03,658 --> 00:38:05,961
on their own...
676
00:38:05,962 --> 00:38:08,841
..vulnerable.
677
00:38:08,842 --> 00:38:11,299
Is that your type?
678
00:38:44,194 --> 00:38:45,899
PHONE VIBRATES
679
00:39:09,794 --> 00:39:11,713
WOMAN: Foreman of the jury,
680
00:39:11,714 --> 00:39:15,713
have you reached a verdict
upon which you are all agreed?
681
00:39:15,714 --> 00:39:17,385
We have.
682
00:39:17,386 --> 00:39:20,265
Do you find the defendant,
Christopher Halliwell,
683
00:39:20,266 --> 00:39:24,193
guilty or not guilty of murder?
684
00:39:24,194 --> 00:39:29,793
Guilty.
SHE GASPS
685
00:39:29,794 --> 00:39:37,929
DIALOGUE IS MUTED
686
00:39:37,930 --> 00:39:40,833
Christopher John Halliwell...
687
00:39:40,834 --> 00:39:46,433
..you have been convicted by a jury
for the murder of Rebecca Godden.
688
00:39:46,434 --> 00:39:48,873
I observe that you lied to this jury
689
00:39:48,874 --> 00:39:52,521
about the circumstances
of the murder of Rebecca Godden,
690
00:39:52,522 --> 00:39:55,209
just as you lied to the jury
691
00:39:55,210 --> 00:39:59,241
about the circumstances
of the murder of Sian O'Callaghan.
692
00:39:59,242 --> 00:40:03,553
I have concluded that the level of
your offending is exceptionally high
693
00:40:03,554 --> 00:40:06,537
and direct
there will be a whole life order.
694
00:40:06,538 --> 00:40:08,589
Take him down.
695
00:40:20,834 --> 00:40:23,627
Where's Yvonne gone?
Oh, she's gone to find Steve.
696
00:40:32,674 --> 00:40:42,441
DOOR OPENS
697
00:40:42,442 --> 00:40:47,241
Whole life?
Yeah.
698
00:40:47,242 --> 00:40:49,793
HE EXHALES SLOWLY AND HEAVILY
699
00:40:49,794 --> 00:40:55,497
The judge said his account made
no sense at all. He lied and lied.
700
00:40:55,498 --> 00:40:59,233
He was right, though.
701
00:40:59,234 --> 00:41:02,433
He did ruin me.
702
00:41:02,434 --> 00:41:04,713
I mean, it occurred to me,
when I was facing him in court,
703
00:41:04,714 --> 00:41:06,633
that we cancelled each other out.
704
00:41:06,634 --> 00:41:08,361
That day,
in order to bring him down,
705
00:41:08,362 --> 00:41:10,281
it was like
I had to also lose everything.
706
00:41:10,282 --> 00:41:12,392
As if it was some sort of pact
between us.
707
00:41:26,602 --> 00:41:30,273
Karen, we wondered if you could
say something to the press.
708
00:41:30,274 --> 00:41:33,153
I've drafted some thoughts for you.
709
00:41:33,154 --> 00:41:35,553
I wondered if you and John
could make a joint statement,
710
00:41:35,554 --> 00:41:36,777
mother and father together.
711
00:41:36,778 --> 00:41:39,465
Right. Because I'm not giving up,
not till the truth comes out.
712
00:41:39,466 --> 00:41:42,433
What? That wasn't a trial,
that was a travesty.
713
00:41:42,434 --> 00:41:44,513
What about the drug dealers
Chris was talking about?
714
00:41:44,514 --> 00:41:46,273
Has anybody been looking for them?
715
00:41:46,274 --> 00:41:49,833
Was Fulcher involved with them?
We need answers.
716
00:41:49,834 --> 00:41:51,753
I'm not doing a joint statement
with John.
717
00:41:51,754 --> 00:41:53,481
You're on your own with him.
718
00:41:53,482 --> 00:41:59,433
And I don't need your notes.
I know what I'm going to say.
719
00:41:59,434 --> 00:42:03,465
Steven...
720
00:42:03,466 --> 00:42:12,873
CAMERAS CLICK
Can you take my bag?
721
00:42:12,874 --> 00:42:15,945
I want to place on record
my thanks for the team
722
00:42:15,946 --> 00:42:18,913
led by Detective Superintendent
Sean Memory,
723
00:42:18,914 --> 00:42:22,857
who have brought this case
to a positive conclusion today.
724
00:42:22,858 --> 00:42:26,505
We have waited over five years
for this moment.
725
00:42:26,506 --> 00:42:29,961
This has been
an extremely painful journey,
726
00:42:29,962 --> 00:42:34,185
but at last
we have finally received justice
727
00:42:34,186 --> 00:42:37,257
for our beautiful little girl Becky.
728
00:42:37,258 --> 00:42:39,753
Sean and his team were left
with virtually nothing to go on
729
00:42:39,754 --> 00:42:42,441
after the evidence,
initially gathered by Steve Fulcher,
730
00:42:42,442 --> 00:42:45,513
had to be thrown out
virtually in its entirety.
731
00:42:45,514 --> 00:42:50,753
I want to thank, from the bottom
of my heart, Steve Fulcher.
732
00:42:50,754 --> 00:42:56,457
I will always be indebted to him
for bringing my little girl home.
733
00:42:56,458 --> 00:42:58,953
They worked tirelessly
with the Crown Prosecution Service
734
00:42:58,954 --> 00:43:01,313
to uncover new evidence
and bring this case to justice.
735
00:43:01,314 --> 00:43:03,393
They are to be congratulated.
736
00:43:03,394 --> 00:43:07,401
But Steve should never have suffered
the terrible consequences,
737
00:43:07,402 --> 00:43:13,161
the loss of his reputation,
the loss of his career...
738
00:43:13,162 --> 00:43:17,193
..just for doing the right thing.
739
00:43:17,194 --> 00:43:19,393
Thank you.
740
00:43:19,394 --> 00:43:24,513
REPORTERS SHOUT QUESTIONS
741
00:43:24,514 --> 00:43:31,977
Go on.
Go and talk to her.
742
00:43:31,978 --> 00:43:35,241
I can't.
743
00:43:35,242 --> 00:43:37,929
She's all right, you know?
744
00:43:37,930 --> 00:43:45,993
Like you, really.
745
00:43:45,994 --> 00:43:48,720
I just can't.
It's too close.
746
00:43:59,626 --> 00:44:02,889
WOMAN: Steve Fulcher, this has been
a landmark case in many ways.
747
00:44:02,890 --> 00:44:06,153
And I know it's been a difficult
journey for you, personally.
748
00:44:06,154 --> 00:44:09,313
But how do you respond to those
who say we cannot have the police
749
00:44:09,314 --> 00:44:11,721
riding roughshod
over the rights of a suspect
750
00:44:11,722 --> 00:44:14,113
as if it were the 1970s again?
I agree.
751
00:44:14,114 --> 00:44:17,793
I agree. But what if next time it's
your daughter who's gone missing?
752
00:44:17,794 --> 00:44:21,793
And if another police officer finds
himself in the position I was in,
753
00:44:21,794 --> 00:44:23,817
what does he do?
754
00:44:23,818 --> 00:44:25,353
Now, after what's happened to me,
755
00:44:25,354 --> 00:44:27,713
he would be perfectly entitled
to give up on her,
756
00:44:27,714 --> 00:44:29,961
to take his suspect
back to the police station
757
00:44:29,962 --> 00:44:32,457
and let a lawyer advise him to go,
"No comment."
758
00:44:32,458 --> 00:44:38,913
Now, if she was still alive, your
daughter would then inevitably die.
759
00:44:38,914 --> 00:44:43,233
And the police's official position
on this seems to be,
760
00:44:43,234 --> 00:44:44,993
"So be it.
761
00:44:44,994 --> 00:44:48,993
"We're very sorry,
but she'll just have to die, then."
762
00:44:48,994 --> 00:44:51,557
Is that what we want?
763
00:45:45,547 --> 00:45:50,547
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