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He was not sacked. 8 00:00:32,334 --> 00:00:33,773 He chose to leave. 9 00:00:33,774 --> 00:00:36,053 There has been much speculation by Fulcher 10 00:00:36,054 --> 00:00:37,589 and, consequently, the media, 11 00:00:37,590 --> 00:00:40,493 in relation to possible other victims of Christopher Halliwell. 12 00:00:40,494 --> 00:00:42,093 We at Wiltshire Police 13 00:00:42,094 --> 00:00:44,501 made the ethical decision to maintain a position 14 00:00:44,502 --> 00:00:48,813 of not rising to these sensational and unsubstantiated claims 15 00:00:48,814 --> 00:00:51,605 because we believe this would lead to a media frenzy. 16 00:00:51,606 --> 00:00:55,061 The murder of Becky Godden has raised a number of issues, 17 00:00:55,062 --> 00:00:57,613 including the Police And Criminal Evidence Act, 18 00:00:57,614 --> 00:00:59,861 which was introduced in 1984. 19 00:00:59,862 --> 00:01:02,093 I believe that, if PACE is ethically followed 20 00:01:02,094 --> 00:01:04,277 and delivered in line with the codes of practice, 21 00:01:04,278 --> 00:01:08,117 the right outcomes can be achieved without evidence being inadmissible. 22 00:01:08,118 --> 00:01:10,069 FLURRY OF QUESTIONS 23 00:01:45,366 --> 00:01:47,533 OK, gentlemen, I am now going to take you through 24 00:01:47,534 --> 00:01:50,549 the basic stages of the intelligence cycle. 25 00:01:50,550 --> 00:01:53,133 Stage one will be planning and direction, 26 00:01:53,134 --> 00:01:57,653 in which we evaluate opportunities and decide on strategy. 27 00:01:57,654 --> 00:01:59,654 Er, do you want to...? HE SPEAKS IN ARABIC 28 00:02:08,814 --> 00:02:11,373 Thank you. So, that's planning and direction. 29 00:02:11,374 --> 00:02:12,653 Next, collection... 30 00:02:12,654 --> 00:02:18,581 LOUD EXPLOSION 31 00:02:18,582 --> 00:02:20,117 Is this the same one? 32 00:02:20,118 --> 00:02:26,645 Yeah. 33 00:02:26,646 --> 00:02:30,101 Christ... Do you ever get used to that? 34 00:02:30,102 --> 00:02:32,021 OK. Er, as I was saying, 35 00:02:32,022 --> 00:02:34,901 stage two is collection. 36 00:02:34,902 --> 00:02:36,653 When? Yesterday. 37 00:02:36,654 --> 00:02:39,373 I've told you before, don't believe everything you read. 38 00:02:39,374 --> 00:02:42,093 It's perfectly safe. Don't worry. It was on BBC News. 39 00:02:42,094 --> 00:02:44,013 There was a suicide bomb in Benghazi 40 00:02:44,014 --> 00:02:47,765 only about half a mile from your barracks. 41 00:02:47,766 --> 00:02:51,413 It's news to me. 42 00:02:51,414 --> 00:02:54,677 How have you been? 43 00:02:54,678 --> 00:02:56,813 I'm really enjoying it. I'm... 44 00:02:56,814 --> 00:02:58,573 ..feeling pretty chilled, actually. 45 00:02:58,574 --> 00:03:00,437 And at least I'm wanted here. 46 00:03:00,438 --> 00:03:02,741 I know you couldn't care less, but Debs Peach told me 47 00:03:02,742 --> 00:03:05,429 Pat Geenty's retired for personal reasons 48 00:03:05,430 --> 00:03:07,373 and Mike Veale is now Chief Constable. 49 00:03:07,374 --> 00:03:10,893 I just thought you could do with a laugh. 50 00:03:10,894 --> 00:03:12,341 You know what? You're right. 51 00:03:12,342 --> 00:03:17,333 I really... couldn't care less any more. 52 00:03:17,334 --> 00:03:19,853 Well, that's all my news. 53 00:03:19,854 --> 00:03:22,573 We love you very much and can't wait to see you. 54 00:03:22,574 --> 00:03:25,293 I've got to go because I'm meeting the girls at the cinema tonight. 55 00:03:25,294 --> 00:03:26,741 OK. 56 00:03:26,742 --> 00:03:28,173 All right... 57 00:03:28,174 --> 00:03:30,581 Give them my love. 58 00:03:30,582 --> 00:03:32,173 I love you. 59 00:03:32,174 --> 00:03:34,253 Please, be careful. 60 00:03:34,254 --> 00:03:43,253 Mm-hm. 61 00:03:43,254 --> 00:03:44,493 LINE RINGS Hello? 62 00:03:44,494 --> 00:03:45,557 Debs... 63 00:03:45,558 --> 00:03:48,053 What the fuck is going on? I wondered when you'd find out. 64 00:03:48,054 --> 00:03:50,573 They've finally given Mike Veale the top job? 65 00:03:50,574 --> 00:03:52,853 And he's already been talking about you. 66 00:03:52,854 --> 00:03:54,253 Blaming you for the fact 67 00:03:54,254 --> 00:03:56,885 they still haven't charged Halliwell over Becky Godden. 68 00:03:56,886 --> 00:03:59,213 They've had years to come up with enough evidence. 69 00:03:59,214 --> 00:04:01,773 It's all wearing a bit thin, this, isn't it, still blaming me? 70 00:04:01,774 --> 00:04:03,029 Yeah. 71 00:04:03,030 --> 00:04:05,453 What happened with that stuff they dug up at the lake... 72 00:04:05,454 --> 00:04:07,253 ..at Ramsbury? 60 items of clothing. 73 00:04:07,254 --> 00:04:09,941 You'd think they'd have assigned a big team to it, wouldn't you? 74 00:04:09,942 --> 00:04:11,533 Oh, what...? 75 00:04:11,534 --> 00:04:13,133 They haven't done anything? 76 00:04:13,134 --> 00:04:16,277 Let's just say, apparently, there hasn't been much progress. 77 00:04:16,278 --> 00:04:18,581 They've only just put a small team on it. 78 00:04:18,582 --> 00:04:20,885 And it's being headed up by Sean Memory, 79 00:04:20,886 --> 00:04:23,213 who's now a Detective Superintendent, by the way. 80 00:04:23,214 --> 00:04:24,973 Do you know what, I think I'd rather be here 81 00:04:24,974 --> 00:04:26,453 with mad Libyans throwing bombs at me 82 00:04:26,454 --> 00:04:28,373 than anywhere near Gable fucking Cross. 83 00:04:28,374 --> 00:04:30,293 How long are you out there for? 84 00:04:30,294 --> 00:04:33,749 I've got another six months. 85 00:04:33,750 --> 00:04:38,253 And don't mention anything about bombs to Yvonne. 86 00:04:38,254 --> 00:04:45,933 Please. 87 00:04:45,934 --> 00:04:49,493 CHARLIE: Karen? 88 00:04:49,494 --> 00:04:53,141 Come on, love, we'd better get going. 89 00:04:53,142 --> 00:04:57,173 Let's at least hear what he's got to say. 90 00:04:57,174 --> 00:04:59,373 I've written an open letter to Halliwell 91 00:04:59,374 --> 00:05:01,973 asking him to tell the truth about what he did to Becky. 92 00:05:01,974 --> 00:05:05,453 I'm not expecting a response, but I just... 93 00:05:05,454 --> 00:05:09,461 ..have to try to keep her in the public eye. 94 00:05:09,462 --> 00:05:11,765 Cos she doesn't matter as much as Sian, you see? 95 00:05:11,766 --> 00:05:14,453 Because Sian was just a normal girl who worked in an office. 96 00:05:14,454 --> 00:05:15,989 A good girl. 97 00:05:15,990 --> 00:05:19,061 But Becky was a bad girl. 98 00:05:19,062 --> 00:05:21,773 A bad little girl who must have deserved it.Karen... 99 00:05:21,774 --> 00:05:24,173 Well, I know that's what everyone thinks! 100 00:05:24,174 --> 00:05:27,053 Listen to me. 101 00:05:27,054 --> 00:05:30,773 I am convinced that, because of you, the Police and Crime Commissioner 102 00:05:30,774 --> 00:05:32,693 is pressuring Wiltshire Police 103 00:05:32,694 --> 00:05:35,693 into looking for new evidence to bring Halliwell to trial. 104 00:05:35,694 --> 00:05:37,933 So, whatever it is you're doing, it's working. 105 00:05:37,934 --> 00:05:41,717 Oh, God... There, you see? 106 00:05:41,718 --> 00:05:43,533 Oh, thank you very much. Thank you. 107 00:05:43,534 --> 00:05:44,614 I won't give up. 108 00:06:04,374 --> 00:06:11,477 DOORBELL CHIMES 109 00:06:11,478 --> 00:06:13,013 Hi, Kev. Hi, Elaine. 110 00:06:13,014 --> 00:06:14,272 How are you? 111 00:06:24,974 --> 00:06:27,853 Are you OK, love? 112 00:06:27,854 --> 00:06:32,333 I'm just feeling it a bit at the moment. 113 00:06:32,334 --> 00:06:33,941 It's been hard. 114 00:06:33,942 --> 00:06:35,861 You get people in the pub 115 00:06:35,862 --> 00:06:38,413 who think they're trying to be nice, rather than spiteful, 116 00:06:38,414 --> 00:06:41,429 but they say, "Don't you wish you'd gone out with her that night?" 117 00:06:41,430 --> 00:06:43,373 I ask myself that all the time. 118 00:06:43,374 --> 00:06:46,421 You mustn't think about it like that, Kev. 119 00:06:46,422 --> 00:06:49,109 She died because of Christopher Halliwell, not anybody else. 120 00:06:49,110 --> 00:06:52,813 Certainly not you. 121 00:06:52,814 --> 00:06:54,733 Is that what you wanted to see me about? 122 00:06:54,734 --> 00:06:58,253 Because that's easy to deal with. 123 00:06:58,254 --> 00:07:00,821 No, it's not that. 124 00:07:00,822 --> 00:07:04,853 Well, what, then, love? 125 00:07:04,854 --> 00:07:13,301 I'm seeing somebody else. 126 00:07:13,302 --> 00:07:17,525 Oh. I'm sorry. 127 00:07:17,526 --> 00:07:20,213 Listen to me, you must never apologise 128 00:07:20,214 --> 00:07:22,413 for getting on with your life. 129 00:07:22,414 --> 00:07:24,245 I feel so bloody guilty. 130 00:07:24,246 --> 00:07:26,357 No! 131 00:07:26,358 --> 00:07:29,133 Sian's not here. 132 00:07:29,134 --> 00:07:35,381 What are you supposed to do, pine for her for the rest of your life? 133 00:07:35,382 --> 00:07:37,301 It's a comfort to me that she knew what it was 134 00:07:37,302 --> 00:07:43,693 to share a life with someone, that she was loved and cherished. 135 00:07:43,694 --> 00:07:47,693 But now she's gone and... 136 00:07:47,694 --> 00:07:50,357 ..I'm glad for you that you have someone else. 137 00:07:50,358 --> 00:07:52,853 I had to come here and tell you about Emma 138 00:07:52,854 --> 00:07:55,053 before you found out from anyone else. 139 00:07:55,054 --> 00:08:00,173 Is that her name, Emma? 140 00:08:00,174 --> 00:08:03,693 Why don't you bring her to the wedding? 141 00:08:03,694 --> 00:08:06,573 Are you sure? 142 00:08:06,574 --> 00:08:08,813 Please. It's important to me. 143 00:08:08,814 --> 00:08:11,533 Bring her, Kev. 144 00:08:11,534 --> 00:08:15,125 I can meet her before, if you like. Take the pressure off. 145 00:08:15,126 --> 00:08:16,818 Thank you. 146 00:08:25,774 --> 00:08:27,693 And this is everything you have? 147 00:08:27,694 --> 00:08:29,773 Well, we do have some other leads we're following up, 148 00:08:29,774 --> 00:08:31,637 but basically, yes, it is. 149 00:08:31,638 --> 00:08:34,325 I thought there were some items recovered from a pond 150 00:08:34,326 --> 00:08:35,861 with Sian's boots. 151 00:08:35,862 --> 00:08:37,453 Does any of that relate to Becky? 152 00:08:37,454 --> 00:08:39,893 We did find some stuff, yeah. But a lot of it had rotted. 153 00:08:39,894 --> 00:08:42,965 And we've not been able to match any of it yet to Becky's clothing 154 00:08:42,966 --> 00:08:46,253 or descriptions of clothing of any missing persons, so... 155 00:08:46,254 --> 00:08:49,933 I'd say we've got enough here to re-arrest and charge 156 00:08:49,934 --> 00:08:52,565 and get it to court. Mm-hm. 157 00:08:52,566 --> 00:08:55,853 But maybe not enough to convince a jury to convict. 158 00:08:55,854 --> 00:08:56,981 Right. 159 00:08:56,982 --> 00:08:59,861 It's all consistent with Halliwell having murdered Rebecca Godden. 160 00:08:59,862 --> 00:09:02,741 And this prostitute who links the two of them is helpful. 161 00:09:02,742 --> 00:09:06,005 But nothing actually says he did it. 162 00:09:06,006 --> 00:09:10,421 The elephant in the room is, of course, the confession. 163 00:09:10,422 --> 00:09:12,973 Well, that was ruled inadmissible, so... Wrongly. 164 00:09:12,974 --> 00:09:14,261 In my opinion. 165 00:09:14,262 --> 00:09:17,613 But with a different judge, a different set of circumstances, 166 00:09:17,614 --> 00:09:20,213 there may be a way we can get it allowed this time round. 167 00:09:20,214 --> 00:09:22,413 How? The key, ironically enough, 168 00:09:22,414 --> 00:09:24,821 is for Halliwell to come out and say, "I didn't do it." 169 00:09:24,822 --> 00:09:28,085 Remember, he's never had to actually state a defence for Rebecca Godden 170 00:09:28,086 --> 00:09:30,197 because the case was thrown out. 171 00:09:30,198 --> 00:09:33,461 He'll probably stay silent and just challenge us to make our case, 172 00:09:33,462 --> 00:09:34,893 as is his right. 173 00:09:34,894 --> 00:09:37,133 But if he now tries to claim he's never met her, 174 00:09:37,134 --> 00:09:39,989 or words to that effect, that's the game-changer. 175 00:09:39,990 --> 00:09:43,061 His confession directly contradicts this. So, it's unlikely, of course. 176 00:09:43,062 --> 00:09:46,133 Any lawyer worth his salt would advise him to keep his mouth shut. 177 00:09:46,134 --> 00:09:49,453 But if he did, that gives us the grounds to ask the judge 178 00:09:49,454 --> 00:09:52,661 to revisit the original ruling. 179 00:09:52,662 --> 00:09:55,733 If that happens, Steve Fulcher would have to give evidence. 180 00:09:55,734 --> 00:09:58,421 And his relationship with Wiltshire Police is not great, 181 00:09:58,422 --> 00:10:00,973 to say the least. 182 00:10:00,974 --> 00:10:03,797 It's by far the strongest evidence we have. 183 00:10:03,798 --> 00:10:11,793 HE SIGHS 184 00:10:11,794 --> 00:10:15,001 DOORBELL CHIMES 185 00:10:15,002 --> 00:10:17,113 Mum, don't embarrass me, OK? 186 00:10:17,114 --> 00:10:21,145 I really like this one. 187 00:10:21,146 --> 00:10:24,985 Hey! Hey... 188 00:10:24,986 --> 00:10:26,329 Mum... 189 00:10:26,330 --> 00:10:28,441 This is Kev. Hiya. 190 00:10:28,442 --> 00:10:29,977 Hi, Kev. Nice to meet you. 191 00:10:29,978 --> 00:10:31,129 And you. 192 00:10:31,130 --> 00:10:32,753 Do you want a cuppa? 193 00:10:32,754 --> 00:10:42,353 Please, yeah. 194 00:10:42,354 --> 00:10:45,393 Elaine... This is Emma. 195 00:10:45,394 --> 00:10:47,313 Pleased to meet you, love. Thanks. 196 00:10:47,314 --> 00:10:49,233 Sorry it's in such difficult circumstances. 197 00:10:49,234 --> 00:10:51,865 Well, that's not your fault, is it? Come on, sit down. 198 00:10:51,866 --> 00:10:54,033 Coffee? Yeah, please. 199 00:10:54,034 --> 00:11:00,505 Two coffees, please. 200 00:11:00,506 --> 00:11:02,833 So... 201 00:11:02,834 --> 00:11:05,305 How did you meet? Tell me everything. 202 00:11:05,306 --> 00:11:08,593 Erm, just round a friend's house. 203 00:11:08,594 --> 00:11:10,513 We got chatting and it sort of clicked. 204 00:11:10,514 --> 00:11:12,025 We went out a few times. 205 00:11:12,026 --> 00:11:14,713 I done her a chicken pasta and that sealed the deal. 206 00:11:14,714 --> 00:11:18,193 Kev's a really good cook. 207 00:11:18,194 --> 00:11:19,705 You're not so bad. 208 00:11:19,706 --> 00:11:23,067 She's brilliant, Elaine. He's just being kind, honestly. 209 00:11:31,314 --> 00:11:34,353 So, how's the wedding stuff going, then, Elaine? 210 00:11:34,354 --> 00:11:37,388 Getting there. Actually, I'm just going to go to the loo. 211 00:11:52,730 --> 00:11:56,015 SHE SOBS QUIETLY 212 00:12:02,994 --> 00:12:09,553 SHE STARTS TO SOB LOUDLY 213 00:12:09,554 --> 00:12:15,473 DOOR SWINGS OPEN 214 00:12:15,474 --> 00:12:21,145 LOUD SOBBING 215 00:12:21,146 --> 00:12:28,825 SOBBING CONTINUES 216 00:12:28,826 --> 00:12:30,553 Christopher John Halliwell, 217 00:12:30,554 --> 00:12:32,753 I'm arresting you for the murder of Rebecca Godden, 218 00:12:32,754 --> 00:12:33,873 contrary to common law. 219 00:12:33,874 --> 00:12:35,793 You do not have to say anything, 220 00:12:35,794 --> 00:12:38,041 but it may harm your defence if you do not mention, 221 00:12:38,042 --> 00:12:40,921 when questioned, something which you later rely on in court. 222 00:12:40,922 --> 00:12:42,841 Anything you do say may be given in evidence. 223 00:12:42,842 --> 00:12:44,113 Do you understand? 224 00:12:44,114 --> 00:12:45,145 HE SNIFFS 225 00:12:45,146 --> 00:12:46,297 Mm. 226 00:12:46,298 --> 00:12:49,177 OK, I'm going to take you now to Worcester Police Station, 227 00:12:49,178 --> 00:12:52,057 where you will be interviewed in the presence of a solicitor. 228 00:12:52,058 --> 00:12:53,401 I don't want a solicitor. 229 00:12:53,402 --> 00:12:56,281 Pardon? 230 00:12:56,282 --> 00:12:58,969 I don't want a solicitor. 231 00:12:58,970 --> 00:13:04,153 I want to see what you have to say first. 232 00:13:04,154 --> 00:13:05,881 Who's in charge of this case? 233 00:13:05,882 --> 00:13:08,433 That would be Detective Superintendent Sean Memory. 234 00:13:08,434 --> 00:13:10,353 If... 235 00:13:10,354 --> 00:13:12,793 ..I wrap this up in... 236 00:13:12,794 --> 00:13:15,153 ..in the next few hours, 237 00:13:15,154 --> 00:13:18,193 any other charges against me... 238 00:13:18,194 --> 00:13:20,113 ..various things in the past... 239 00:13:20,114 --> 00:13:27,193 You're talking about car thefts, break-ins, bits and pieces? 240 00:13:27,194 --> 00:13:30,841 Some more... serious. 241 00:13:30,842 --> 00:13:35,065 Will clearing this up be enough to stop everything else? 242 00:13:35,066 --> 00:13:41,073 If Mr Memory is listening, the ball is in his court. 243 00:13:41,074 --> 00:13:44,113 Get a print set up. If we can get a confession now, that's it... 244 00:13:44,114 --> 00:13:46,009 ..no need for Fulcher. 245 00:13:46,010 --> 00:13:51,193 Now, what I'm saying there, Chris, and I've signed it at the bottom... 246 00:13:51,194 --> 00:13:53,713 ..is that I lead the investigation into Becky Godden. 247 00:13:53,714 --> 00:13:57,145 I'm not aware of any other allegations against you. 248 00:13:57,146 --> 00:14:02,137 And I'm not investigating you for any other offence, apart from Becky. 249 00:14:02,138 --> 00:14:05,873 If I clear this up, I don't want you coming back every two years saying, 250 00:14:05,874 --> 00:14:09,873 "What about this? What about that?" 251 00:14:09,874 --> 00:14:14,353 This interview is about one matter and one matter only. 252 00:14:14,354 --> 00:14:16,729 But at this point in time... 253 00:14:16,730 --> 00:14:19,642 ..I'm not aware of any other allegations against you. 254 00:14:28,114 --> 00:14:33,049 OK. 255 00:14:33,050 --> 00:14:35,353 Erm... 256 00:14:35,354 --> 00:14:39,001 Actually, before I do anything else... 257 00:14:39,002 --> 00:14:43,033 ..I think I'd better get my solicitor to check it first. 258 00:14:43,034 --> 00:14:47,641 Is that OK? 259 00:14:47,642 --> 00:14:50,521 No, that's fine. 260 00:14:50,522 --> 00:14:55,321 HE DROPS THE PEN ON THE TABLE 261 00:14:55,322 --> 00:14:57,241 He's got no intention of clearing anything up. 262 00:14:57,242 --> 00:14:59,793 He's playing with us. 263 00:14:59,794 --> 00:15:07,033 He just wanted to know what we've got. 264 00:15:07,034 --> 00:15:10,353 SPOON TINKLES ON A GLASS 265 00:15:10,354 --> 00:15:13,073 Ladies and gentlemen... 266 00:15:13,074 --> 00:15:14,329 ..my wife and I... 267 00:15:14,330 --> 00:15:16,633 GUESTS: Whoooo! 268 00:15:16,634 --> 00:15:18,937 APPLAUSE 269 00:15:18,938 --> 00:15:21,241 ..would like to thank you all sincerely for coming. 270 00:15:21,242 --> 00:15:22,993 It really is... 271 00:15:22,994 --> 00:15:26,617 It's wonderful to have you all with us on this special day. 272 00:15:26,618 --> 00:15:28,753 And I'd like to thank the children, 273 00:15:28,754 --> 00:15:31,033 my three and Elaine's, 274 00:15:31,034 --> 00:15:32,953 for being there for us... 275 00:15:32,954 --> 00:15:34,681 ..through everything. 276 00:15:34,682 --> 00:15:37,561 And of course... 277 00:15:37,562 --> 00:15:40,249 ..I must mention Sian. 278 00:15:40,250 --> 00:15:44,113 Now, we all remember those dark days when she went missing. 279 00:15:44,114 --> 00:15:50,425 When there was nothing we could do but sit and hope. 280 00:15:50,426 --> 00:15:53,305 Yeah, we'd get little bits and pieces of information, 281 00:15:53,306 --> 00:15:56,377 but not the message that we really wanted to hear. 282 00:15:56,378 --> 00:15:59,313 That she was safe and well... 283 00:15:59,314 --> 00:16:00,809 ..and coming home. 284 00:16:16,594 --> 00:16:20,273 What was all that about? I asked him, Jackie. 285 00:16:20,274 --> 00:16:22,681 I said, "Please, don't talk about Sian too much." 286 00:16:22,682 --> 00:16:25,177 But he had it all planned out in his head what he wanted to do. 287 00:16:25,178 --> 00:16:28,441 He's planned everything today. He likes to be... 288 00:16:28,442 --> 00:16:32,113 ..in control. He likes to organise everything. 289 00:16:32,114 --> 00:16:35,545 He likes to take over, more like. I care about him a lot. I do. 290 00:16:35,546 --> 00:16:40,433 He is a good person. 291 00:16:40,434 --> 00:16:45,721 I don't want to be on my own, Jackie. I want to be married. 292 00:16:45,722 --> 00:16:52,913 I know. 293 00:16:52,914 --> 00:16:54,833 Halliwell has parted company with the lawyers 294 00:16:54,834 --> 00:16:56,473 who represented him at the first trial. 295 00:16:56,474 --> 00:16:58,777 Really? Why would he do that? 296 00:16:58,778 --> 00:17:00,593 Well, it would seem he has decided 297 00:17:00,594 --> 00:17:03,793 he wants to represent himself in court. 298 00:17:03,794 --> 00:17:06,073 Bloody hell. 299 00:17:06,074 --> 00:17:07,417 Precisely. 300 00:17:07,418 --> 00:17:10,873 So, this morning, Halliwell finally issued an outline of his defence, 301 00:17:10,874 --> 00:17:12,601 which he's composed himself. 302 00:17:12,602 --> 00:17:14,353 We've been asking for it for weeks. 303 00:17:14,354 --> 00:17:18,193 It says simply he has no knowledge of the death of Rebecca Godden, 304 00:17:18,194 --> 00:17:25,081 nor any information regarding details of how she died. 305 00:17:25,082 --> 00:17:27,793 I think we have our game-changer. 306 00:17:27,794 --> 00:17:29,881 The confession now comes into play. 307 00:17:29,882 --> 00:17:33,011 We can ask the new judge to reconsider admitting it. 308 00:17:41,234 --> 00:17:44,473 An email came through this morning from the CPS 309 00:17:44,474 --> 00:17:47,353 saying that Wiltshire Police have discovered new evidence 310 00:17:47,354 --> 00:17:49,657 against Halliwell for Becky Godden's murder 311 00:17:49,658 --> 00:17:51,633 and that he's been charged as a result. 312 00:17:51,634 --> 00:17:53,553 But in the next breath they say 313 00:17:53,554 --> 00:17:55,993 they want to try and reintroduce the confession evidence. 314 00:17:55,994 --> 00:17:58,681 You're joking? Well, do you want an even bigger laugh? 315 00:17:58,682 --> 00:18:00,793 If they do manage to get it ruled admissible, 316 00:18:00,794 --> 00:18:03,673 they want me to come back and give evidence at the trial. 317 00:18:03,674 --> 00:18:07,513 After all they've done to you, now they want you to help them out? 318 00:18:07,514 --> 00:18:11,161 The new evidence obviously can't be that strong, can it? 319 00:18:11,162 --> 00:18:13,081 It's not ever going to end, is it? 320 00:18:13,082 --> 00:18:15,793 For fuck's sake... 321 00:18:15,794 --> 00:18:18,073 Oh, hello. Come in. 322 00:18:18,074 --> 00:18:20,185 FRONT DOOR CLOSES 323 00:18:20,186 --> 00:18:21,553 Hi, Karen. Hello. 324 00:18:21,554 --> 00:18:23,833 Come in, sit down. No, no, I can't stay for long. 325 00:18:23,834 --> 00:18:25,393 I, erm... 326 00:18:25,394 --> 00:18:27,153 I just came to tell you that we are hopeful 327 00:18:27,154 --> 00:18:29,785 of finally bringing charges against Halliwell over Becky. 328 00:18:29,786 --> 00:18:32,113 SHE GASPS He's been arrested. 329 00:18:32,114 --> 00:18:34,833 We're still working to strengthen the case against him. 330 00:18:34,834 --> 00:18:37,081 But we think we can go to trial. 331 00:18:37,082 --> 00:18:40,345 But how? We've been working hard on the case 332 00:18:40,346 --> 00:18:43,473 and we've dug up plenty of new evidence. 333 00:18:43,474 --> 00:18:46,681 Can we know what it is? I can't say too much now, 334 00:18:46,682 --> 00:18:48,601 but the evidence is compelling. 335 00:18:48,602 --> 00:18:51,673 There's a little way to go yet, but we're optimistic. 336 00:18:51,674 --> 00:18:54,993 Oh, that is so fantastic! 337 00:18:54,994 --> 00:18:56,913 We'd almost given up hope, hadn't we? 338 00:18:56,914 --> 00:19:00,121 I will, of course, be in touch if there's any more news, OK? 339 00:19:00,122 --> 00:19:02,673 Thanks for coming to tell us, Sean. 340 00:19:02,674 --> 00:19:04,921 Well, it's important we're all on the same page, right? 341 00:19:04,922 --> 00:19:07,953 Well, thanks a million, Sean. Yeah, thanks. 342 00:19:07,954 --> 00:19:10,681 FRONT DOOR OPENS 343 00:19:10,682 --> 00:19:13,561 FRONT DOOR CLOSES 344 00:19:13,562 --> 00:19:15,313 Oh, Charlie, I've... 345 00:19:15,314 --> 00:19:17,233 I've got a knot in my tummy. 346 00:19:17,234 --> 00:19:20,753 But why? We've just had the best bloody news you could hope for. 347 00:19:20,754 --> 00:19:22,833 But what if it doesn't work again? 348 00:19:22,834 --> 00:19:25,081 What if another ruling goes against us or something? 349 00:19:25,082 --> 00:19:27,385 Because, if we don't get him this time, we never will. 350 00:19:27,386 --> 00:19:32,761 Always the gloomiest way of looking at it, that's you! 351 00:19:32,762 --> 00:19:35,641 Yeah, well, I've had that smashed into me, haven't I, over the years? 352 00:19:35,642 --> 00:19:39,953 There hasn't been much to be optimistic about, has there? 353 00:19:39,954 --> 00:19:42,937 Elaine, look at where you are right now. 354 00:19:42,938 --> 00:19:44,913 What are you doing? 355 00:19:44,914 --> 00:19:48,593 I mean, you've given up your job, you've even sold your car. 356 00:19:48,594 --> 00:19:51,001 Pete prefers to drive. 357 00:19:51,002 --> 00:19:53,233 SHE SIGHS 358 00:19:53,234 --> 00:19:57,145 It's not right, Elaine. It's got to stop. 359 00:19:57,146 --> 00:19:58,681 It's just you're not you any more. 360 00:19:58,682 --> 00:20:01,561 You don't even behave like you any more. 361 00:20:01,562 --> 00:20:04,825 To be honest, I feel like I've had the stuffing knocked out of me. 362 00:20:04,826 --> 00:20:07,321 I can't stand any sort of confrontation. 363 00:20:07,322 --> 00:20:10,673 There's just so much tension in the house. 364 00:20:10,674 --> 00:20:12,860 I feel like I've lost all my confidence. 365 00:20:23,474 --> 00:20:25,271 Thanks. 366 00:20:39,634 --> 00:20:40,921 Hi. 367 00:20:40,922 --> 00:20:48,217 Do you mind? 368 00:20:48,218 --> 00:20:50,905 I just think I'm being an idiot for coming out and helping them. 369 00:20:50,906 --> 00:20:52,825 You're not helping them out, though, are you? 370 00:20:52,826 --> 00:20:54,033 This isn't about them, is it? 371 00:20:54,034 --> 00:20:56,593 Well, they deserve to be left on the beach, with the tide out, 372 00:20:56,594 --> 00:20:59,161 looking like the fucking idiots they are. 373 00:20:59,162 --> 00:21:01,358 But Karen doesn't. 374 00:21:02,146 --> 00:21:03,600 But Karen doesn't. 375 00:21:11,066 --> 00:21:16,913 You're doing the right thing. 376 00:21:16,914 --> 00:21:18,349 Thank you. 377 00:21:45,626 --> 00:21:47,353 Here. Cheers, Aiden. 378 00:21:47,354 --> 00:21:49,873 Here. 379 00:21:49,874 --> 00:21:51,313 Thanks, love. 380 00:21:51,314 --> 00:21:52,921 We're going to go. 381 00:21:52,922 --> 00:21:54,841 Don't you think it's better to wait and face him, 382 00:21:54,842 --> 00:21:57,145 rather than doing it like this? 383 00:21:57,146 --> 00:21:58,873 I told him I was moving out today. 384 00:21:58,874 --> 00:22:00,985 Yeah, but he didn't believe you, did he? 385 00:22:00,986 --> 00:22:04,825 Look, I couldn't honestly handle him trying to talk me out of it. 386 00:22:04,826 --> 00:22:07,153 This way, it's much better. It's not Pete's fault. 387 00:22:07,154 --> 00:22:11,545 I should never have married him. So, why did you? 388 00:22:11,546 --> 00:22:13,273 I just thought, after what's happened, 389 00:22:13,274 --> 00:22:15,633 I needed someone to take control of my life for me. 390 00:22:15,634 --> 00:22:20,433 It's the worst thing I could have done, all right? 391 00:22:20,434 --> 00:22:22,112 Oh, nice one. SHE SIGHS 392 00:22:30,994 --> 00:22:33,241 SHE KNOCKS Mr Fulcher to see you. 393 00:22:33,242 --> 00:22:34,585 Thank you. 394 00:22:34,586 --> 00:22:36,753 Sean. Good to see you, Steve. 395 00:22:36,754 --> 00:22:38,833 And you. 396 00:22:38,834 --> 00:22:40,153 Mr Fulcher. Hi. 397 00:22:40,154 --> 00:22:42,841 Take a seat, please. 398 00:22:42,842 --> 00:22:44,761 I see you've got a suntan. 399 00:22:44,762 --> 00:22:48,601 I see you've got Detective Superintendent. 400 00:22:48,602 --> 00:22:50,713 Thanks for coming in today. We just wanted to give you 401 00:22:50,714 --> 00:22:51,953 some background on the trial. 402 00:22:51,954 --> 00:22:54,169 Right, so, there's definitely going to be one? 403 00:22:54,170 --> 00:22:57,553 Yes. And we are definitely going to need you to give evidence. 404 00:22:57,554 --> 00:23:00,121 Well, I'm all ears. 405 00:23:00,122 --> 00:23:02,673 Well, the pre-trial concluded this afternoon 406 00:23:02,674 --> 00:23:05,305 and the new judge, Mr Justice Griffith Williams, 407 00:23:05,306 --> 00:23:07,801 has ruled that the confession made to you by Halliwell 408 00:23:07,802 --> 00:23:10,105 will be admissible as evidence. 409 00:23:10,106 --> 00:23:13,233 He was quite scathing of Mrs Justice Cox, 410 00:23:13,234 --> 00:23:15,865 who ruled against you last time. Mm-hm. 411 00:23:15,866 --> 00:23:19,321 Halliwell tried to have it excluded again, based on her original ruling, 412 00:23:19,322 --> 00:23:22,585 but the new judge said that the confession was made voluntarily. 413 00:23:22,586 --> 00:23:24,753 In his view, there was no oppression. 414 00:23:24,754 --> 00:23:29,553 And to not allow it would offend good sense. 415 00:23:29,554 --> 00:23:32,185 You see, I thought I'd lost my career because other people, 416 00:23:32,186 --> 00:23:35,473 who should have known better, decided I'd done something terrible. 417 00:23:35,474 --> 00:23:37,233 But now it seems, apparently, I haven't. 418 00:23:37,234 --> 00:23:40,441 Look, I'd have understood if you'd told us to fuck off. 419 00:23:40,442 --> 00:23:46,033 Yeah, that was never going to happen. 420 00:23:46,034 --> 00:23:48,753 Hm... 421 00:23:48,754 --> 00:23:50,353 So, how does your new Chief Constable 422 00:23:50,354 --> 00:23:52,453 feel about me being his star witness, then? 423 00:24:02,486 --> 00:24:06,077 It's Elaine. 424 00:24:06,078 --> 00:24:08,573 Mrs Edwards, you've been waiting for four years. 425 00:24:08,574 --> 00:24:11,285 How are you feeling about the trial? Well, it's difficult. 426 00:24:11,286 --> 00:24:12,885 But we hope it's going to go our way. 427 00:24:12,886 --> 00:24:17,213 How do you feel about Halliwell representing himself, Mrs Edwards? 428 00:24:17,214 --> 00:24:20,119 REPORTERS SHOUT QUESTIONS 429 00:25:38,046 --> 00:25:41,525 When was the last time you saw your daughter, Mrs Edwards? 430 00:25:41,526 --> 00:25:45,205 December 2002. 431 00:25:45,206 --> 00:25:47,645 She would have been 21 the following April. 432 00:25:47,646 --> 00:25:49,949 And I always thought she'd turn up for her 21st birthday, 433 00:25:49,950 --> 00:25:52,445 but she never did. 434 00:25:52,446 --> 00:25:58,013 I got a card from her every Mother's Day, without fail. 435 00:25:58,014 --> 00:26:02,045 But from 2003 onwards, I never got one. 436 00:26:02,046 --> 00:26:05,693 Becky was very petite. 437 00:26:05,694 --> 00:26:09,365 She was only 4'11" tall and she could wear children's clothing. 438 00:26:09,366 --> 00:26:14,005 You know, like, for 12 to 14-year-olds. 439 00:26:14,006 --> 00:26:18,485 She was just a child, really. 440 00:26:18,486 --> 00:26:22,973 Miss X, you have been granted anonymity today. 441 00:26:22,974 --> 00:26:26,237 I understand you have a history of drug abuse and prostitution, 442 00:26:26,238 --> 00:26:28,733 which is how you met Rebecca Godden. 443 00:26:28,734 --> 00:26:30,653 That's correct, yes. 444 00:26:30,654 --> 00:26:32,573 She was a friend of mine. 445 00:26:32,574 --> 00:26:34,965 But you have turned your life around since then 446 00:26:34,966 --> 00:26:39,101 and are now married with two children. 447 00:26:39,102 --> 00:26:40,085 Yes. 448 00:26:40,086 --> 00:26:42,805 And my husband knows nothing about my past life. 449 00:26:42,806 --> 00:26:44,669 And yet you still came along today, 450 00:26:44,670 --> 00:26:48,405 even though your past could have been revealed to all and sundry. 451 00:26:48,406 --> 00:26:51,773 I thought it was important. 452 00:26:51,774 --> 00:26:54,653 I'm very grateful to you. 453 00:26:54,654 --> 00:26:59,453 Please, stay where you are. 454 00:26:59,454 --> 00:27:02,005 Mr Halliwell... 455 00:27:02,006 --> 00:27:06,557 According to you... 456 00:27:06,558 --> 00:27:09,053 ..I was besotted with Rebecca Godden. 457 00:27:09,054 --> 00:27:10,397 Correct. 458 00:27:10,398 --> 00:27:12,565 Even though I've never met her before. 459 00:27:12,566 --> 00:27:15,445 SHE SCOFFS 460 00:27:15,446 --> 00:27:19,229 Sometimes you even give her money to stop her going with other men. 461 00:27:19,230 --> 00:27:22,109 I remember, one night, you picked me up for sex, 462 00:27:22,110 --> 00:27:24,245 you knew she was my mate and you said, 463 00:27:24,246 --> 00:27:27,765 "Don't tell Becks about this." 464 00:27:27,766 --> 00:27:30,365 Right, so I'm supposed to have had sex with you, too, yeah? 465 00:27:30,366 --> 00:27:31,765 Yes. 466 00:27:31,766 --> 00:27:35,933 Twice. 467 00:27:35,934 --> 00:27:37,277 HE SCOFFS 468 00:27:37,278 --> 00:27:39,005 You see, I think there's a chance... 469 00:27:39,006 --> 00:27:40,733 ..that you could be mistaken. 470 00:27:40,734 --> 00:27:42,965 So, take a long, hard look at me 471 00:27:42,966 --> 00:27:45,365 and confirm that the person you're talking about is me. 472 00:27:45,366 --> 00:27:47,069 Because this is serious. 473 00:27:47,070 --> 00:27:48,605 Is this a joke? 474 00:27:48,606 --> 00:27:54,365 I am one hundred million percent sure it's you. 475 00:27:54,366 --> 00:27:58,973 If we've had sex together twice... 476 00:27:58,974 --> 00:28:02,237 ..what colour are my eyes? 477 00:28:02,238 --> 00:28:03,965 I don't know. 478 00:28:03,966 --> 00:28:05,844 What colour were Becky's? 479 00:28:15,486 --> 00:28:17,405 We compared soil found on the spade 480 00:28:17,406 --> 00:28:20,093 in the garage at Christopher Halliwell's home address 481 00:28:20,094 --> 00:28:22,397 with a sample of soil from the field 482 00:28:22,398 --> 00:28:24,893 where Rebecca Godden's body was found. 483 00:28:24,894 --> 00:28:26,485 Becky was outside the club 484 00:28:26,486 --> 00:28:29,309 having some sort of argument with this taxi driver. 485 00:28:29,310 --> 00:28:32,573 He was shouting at her. It went on for quite a while. 486 00:28:32,574 --> 00:28:35,125 I'm pretty sure I heard him call her "a fucking slag", 487 00:28:35,126 --> 00:28:37,373 or words like that. 488 00:28:37,374 --> 00:28:40,885 This row with the taxi driver, when was that? 489 00:28:40,886 --> 00:28:43,925 Er, just after New Year 2003. 490 00:28:43,926 --> 00:28:46,485 I'm pretty sure it was the 3rd, early in the morning. 491 00:28:46,486 --> 00:28:49,853 In the end, the driver somehow persuaded her to get in the back 492 00:28:49,854 --> 00:28:52,349 and they drove off. 493 00:28:52,350 --> 00:28:54,325 Did you get a look at the driver? 494 00:28:54,326 --> 00:28:56,085 Not clearly, no. 495 00:28:56,086 --> 00:28:59,261 And you never saw Rebecca again after that? 496 00:28:59,262 --> 00:29:00,413 No. 497 00:29:00,414 --> 00:29:01,565 Never. 498 00:29:01,566 --> 00:29:04,085 Nor indeed have we been able to find anybody else who has, 499 00:29:04,086 --> 00:29:07,765 after that night. 500 00:29:07,766 --> 00:29:09,053 Mr Halliwell... 501 00:29:09,054 --> 00:29:11,933 Do you have any questions? 502 00:29:11,934 --> 00:29:14,429 Yeah, erm... 503 00:29:14,430 --> 00:29:17,365 The taxi she drove off in, 504 00:29:17,366 --> 00:29:21,917 did it have a white illuminated sign on it saying, well, "Taxi"? 505 00:29:21,918 --> 00:29:25,205 Yeah, it did. 506 00:29:25,206 --> 00:29:26,965 Thank you. 507 00:29:26,966 --> 00:29:30,173 Because, at that time, my car did not have a light on the roof. 508 00:29:30,174 --> 00:29:39,773 So, thank you. 509 00:29:39,774 --> 00:29:41,525 Thank you. 510 00:29:41,526 --> 00:29:43,613 The court has now broken until tomorrow. 511 00:29:43,614 --> 00:29:49,373 If you could be back here for 9:00am? Fine. 512 00:29:49,374 --> 00:29:52,061 I'd heard most of that evidence before. Hadn't you? 513 00:29:52,062 --> 00:29:53,597 Mm. 514 00:29:53,598 --> 00:29:56,725 We had all that back when Steve was around, as far as I can remember. 515 00:29:56,726 --> 00:29:58,973 So, what have they been doing for the last five years? 516 00:29:58,974 --> 00:30:02,005 All this new evidence! All they've got is Steve. 517 00:30:02,006 --> 00:30:04,405 And he must be so nervous, after all this time, 518 00:30:04,406 --> 00:30:07,997 wondering what Halliwell is going to say. 519 00:30:07,998 --> 00:30:09,940 ELECTRIC TOOTHBRUSH WHIRS 520 00:30:20,862 --> 00:30:22,205 Tell us again, Mr Fulcher, 521 00:30:22,206 --> 00:30:25,085 what Christopher Halliwell told you that day about the second victim. 522 00:30:25,086 --> 00:30:27,005 He said he had taken a prostitute 523 00:30:27,006 --> 00:30:29,693 from the Manchester Road area of Swindon, 524 00:30:29,694 --> 00:30:32,085 had sex with her in the back of his taxi... 525 00:30:32,086 --> 00:30:34,325 ..and then strangled her. 526 00:30:34,326 --> 00:30:37,205 I said, "Was it similar to Sian?" He said, "Pretty much." 527 00:30:37,206 --> 00:30:39,125 I asked if there were any other victims, 528 00:30:39,126 --> 00:30:40,637 I said, "Is it just these two?" 529 00:30:40,638 --> 00:30:42,941 And he replied, "Isn't that enough?" 530 00:30:42,942 --> 00:30:45,525 OK, let's pause there. 531 00:30:45,526 --> 00:30:48,579 I'm sure Mr Halliwell has some questions for you. 532 00:30:59,454 --> 00:31:02,165 I couldn't care less... 533 00:31:02,166 --> 00:31:06,365 ..about not being cautioned by you. 534 00:31:06,366 --> 00:31:09,845 Sorry? It didn't bother me in the slightest that... 535 00:31:09,846 --> 00:31:11,933 ..my rights were breached. 536 00:31:11,934 --> 00:31:14,325 When I was arrested on 24th March, 537 00:31:14,326 --> 00:31:17,309 that was the first day of a life sentence. 538 00:31:17,310 --> 00:31:19,445 HE CLEARS HIS THROAT I knew that. 539 00:31:19,446 --> 00:31:23,125 So, after I took you to Sian's body, everything after that... 540 00:31:23,126 --> 00:31:26,717 ..well, that was about pure revenge. 541 00:31:26,718 --> 00:31:28,445 I don't quite follow you. 542 00:31:28,446 --> 00:31:31,517 Well, I didn't know about PACE and codes and all that, 543 00:31:31,518 --> 00:31:34,397 but I knew enough to know that, if I asked to speak to a solicitor, 544 00:31:34,398 --> 00:31:37,853 then everything else should stop until that's been given to me. 545 00:31:37,854 --> 00:31:39,125 I knew that much. 546 00:31:39,126 --> 00:31:41,693 I asked you six or seven times, 547 00:31:41,694 --> 00:31:45,149 it's all been recorded, and you kept refusing me. 548 00:31:45,150 --> 00:31:47,285 I knew that was wrong. 549 00:31:47,286 --> 00:31:49,949 I didn't care because I knew I could turn it to my advantage. 550 00:31:49,950 --> 00:31:52,725 So, all that whole story... 551 00:31:52,726 --> 00:31:55,133 ..about burying a girl in a field... 552 00:31:55,134 --> 00:31:56,669 HE SCOFFS 553 00:31:56,670 --> 00:31:58,205 ..it was just a pack of lies. 554 00:31:58,206 --> 00:32:00,893 Mr Halliwell, if you are alleging 555 00:32:00,894 --> 00:32:03,605 that revenge played a part in what happened that day, 556 00:32:03,606 --> 00:32:05,693 you must explain yourself. 557 00:32:05,694 --> 00:32:07,613 Yeah, in a minute, Your Honour. 558 00:32:07,614 --> 00:32:12,245 I had no idea if there was a body buried in that field in Eastleach. 559 00:32:12,246 --> 00:32:16,085 How could I if I'd never met Rebecca Godden in my life? 560 00:32:16,086 --> 00:32:18,173 What happened was, at the end of 2001, 561 00:32:18,174 --> 00:32:20,093 I started driving these fellas around. 562 00:32:20,094 --> 00:32:22,397 Well... 563 00:32:22,398 --> 00:32:24,405 ..drug dealers, they were. 564 00:32:24,406 --> 00:32:27,389 But I never asked them any questions and they seemed to trust me. 565 00:32:27,390 --> 00:32:31,125 Now, one night, at the end of March time 2003, 566 00:32:31,126 --> 00:32:34,325 they directed me out to this field in Eastleach. 567 00:32:34,326 --> 00:32:36,029 And they carried this big holdall 568 00:32:36,030 --> 00:32:38,005 out of the boot of my taxi into the field. 569 00:32:38,006 --> 00:32:40,253 Now, I drove off. I came back for them later. 570 00:32:40,254 --> 00:32:42,645 I never asked them what they were doing. 571 00:32:42,646 --> 00:32:45,437 A few months later, I was driving one of them around 572 00:32:45,438 --> 00:32:46,973 and he was drunk, right? 573 00:32:46,974 --> 00:32:49,525 And he tells me that they had buried... 574 00:32:49,526 --> 00:32:53,845 ..a prostitute in that field that night. 575 00:32:53,846 --> 00:32:56,381 Now, I thought he was messing 576 00:32:56,382 --> 00:32:58,301 because he said it like it was nothing. 577 00:32:58,302 --> 00:33:01,565 So, when I took you to that field in Eastleach, 578 00:33:01,566 --> 00:33:05,525 I had no idea if there was a body buried there. 579 00:33:05,526 --> 00:33:07,605 And I can prove it. 580 00:33:07,606 --> 00:33:10,805 How deep down did I say the body was buried? 581 00:33:10,806 --> 00:33:13,469 You said five feet. That's right. 582 00:33:13,470 --> 00:33:15,773 And how deep was it actually buried? 583 00:33:15,774 --> 00:33:17,885 Er, about eight inches, 584 00:33:17,886 --> 00:33:20,085 cos the bedrock was so close to the surface. 585 00:33:20,086 --> 00:33:21,045 Yeah. 586 00:33:21,046 --> 00:33:24,797 So, why would I say five feet if it was only eight inches? 587 00:33:24,798 --> 00:33:27,765 Well, you also couldn't be sure when you had murdered Becky. 588 00:33:27,766 --> 00:33:29,685 Cos I never did, cos I'd never met her. 589 00:33:29,686 --> 00:33:32,885 You said it was in 2003, 2004 or 2005. 590 00:33:32,886 --> 00:33:35,933 So what I surmised... 591 00:33:35,934 --> 00:33:38,813 ..and from you getting wrong the depth that she was buried, 592 00:33:38,814 --> 00:33:41,501 was that you had other victims that you had buried, 593 00:33:41,502 --> 00:33:43,997 victims that we don't yet know about, 594 00:33:43,998 --> 00:33:46,685 and that you became confused about which was which. 595 00:33:46,686 --> 00:33:49,565 That's an absolute pack of lies. And you know that. 596 00:33:49,566 --> 00:33:53,405 No, I know that you told me you had murdered a prostitute 597 00:33:53,406 --> 00:33:55,445 and buried her in that field. 598 00:33:55,446 --> 00:33:56,885 I believed... 599 00:33:56,886 --> 00:33:59,605 ..in that moment, that you were contrite 600 00:33:59,606 --> 00:34:02,645 and that you wanted to unburden yourself. That's ridiculous. 601 00:34:02,646 --> 00:34:05,693 You said you could take me to the exact spot in that field 602 00:34:05,694 --> 00:34:07,037 where she was buried. 603 00:34:07,038 --> 00:34:08,957 In fact, you were a few feet out, 604 00:34:08,958 --> 00:34:11,453 but we later discovered the remains of Rebecca Godden 605 00:34:11,454 --> 00:34:14,333 in that field that you had directed us to. 606 00:34:14,334 --> 00:34:18,365 Well, I only said that because I wanted to get you in the shit. 607 00:34:18,366 --> 00:34:21,525 We need to know why, Mr Halliwell. 608 00:34:21,526 --> 00:34:23,445 Because he threatened my daughters. 609 00:34:23,446 --> 00:34:25,661 I did what? You threatened my daughters. 610 00:34:25,662 --> 00:34:27,285 And nobody threatens my kids! 611 00:34:27,286 --> 00:34:29,885 Absolute rubbish. That's why I took you to that field. 612 00:34:29,886 --> 00:34:32,085 Cos I knew for certain, if anything was found there, 613 00:34:32,086 --> 00:34:33,533 then any third-rate solicitor 614 00:34:33,534 --> 00:34:36,413 would make mincemeat of the fact I hadn't been cautioned 615 00:34:36,414 --> 00:34:39,125 and you'd be dropped right in it. 616 00:34:39,126 --> 00:34:43,605 But you haven't told us what this threat was. 617 00:34:43,606 --> 00:34:45,053 I'm not going to say. 618 00:34:45,054 --> 00:34:47,165 You're not going to say? 619 00:34:47,166 --> 00:34:49,085 No. 620 00:34:49,086 --> 00:34:53,693 Don't you think it's rather important to tell us what it was? 621 00:34:53,694 --> 00:34:55,997 Well, there's no point. 622 00:34:55,998 --> 00:34:59,645 I can't prove it. It's my word against his. 623 00:34:59,646 --> 00:35:00,885 I see. 624 00:35:00,886 --> 00:35:06,645 So, do you have any more questions for Mr Fulcher? 625 00:35:06,646 --> 00:35:09,685 Er... 626 00:35:09,686 --> 00:35:12,125 No. 627 00:35:12,126 --> 00:35:13,525 Very well. 628 00:35:13,526 --> 00:35:15,285 This might be a good time to take a break. 629 00:35:15,286 --> 00:35:17,501 Er, just one more thing. Erm... 630 00:35:17,502 --> 00:35:21,386 It was a pleasure ruining your career, you corrupt bastard. 631 00:35:42,754 --> 00:35:47,145 "I do solemnly, sincerely and truly declare and affirm 632 00:35:47,146 --> 00:35:49,313 "that the evidence I give shall be the truth, 633 00:35:49,314 --> 00:35:52,952 "the whole truth and nothing but the truth." 634 00:36:06,754 --> 00:36:11,721 You really loathe Mr Fulcher, don't you? 635 00:36:11,722 --> 00:36:14,273 Absolutely. 636 00:36:14,274 --> 00:36:17,673 You blame him for your confessions, don't you? 637 00:36:17,674 --> 00:36:20,833 I'm responsible for my own actions. I've faced up to what I did to Sian. 638 00:36:20,834 --> 00:36:22,281 No, but you see, you haven't. 639 00:36:22,282 --> 00:36:25,473 You've never given a proper account of what happened when Sian died, 640 00:36:25,474 --> 00:36:27,273 other than some nonsensical claim 641 00:36:27,274 --> 00:36:29,633 that she tried to grab your steering wheel 642 00:36:29,634 --> 00:36:31,233 and then you went to punch her 643 00:36:31,234 --> 00:36:35,337 without realising you had a knife in your hand. 644 00:36:35,338 --> 00:36:39,369 You abducted her for sexual purposes, just as you did Rebecca. 645 00:36:39,370 --> 00:36:41,289 Er, that's ludicrous. 646 00:36:41,290 --> 00:36:43,401 It was an accident. Was it? 647 00:36:43,402 --> 00:36:46,473 Is that why her leggings and knickers were pulled down 648 00:36:46,474 --> 00:36:48,673 and her bra was missing? 649 00:36:48,674 --> 00:36:52,513 Listen, I came here to tell the truth. 650 00:36:52,514 --> 00:36:55,497 It doesn't matter to me if the jury believes me or not. 651 00:36:55,498 --> 00:36:57,801 Yes, you keep saying that. But that's not true, either. 652 00:36:57,802 --> 00:37:01,065 You received 25 years for the murder of Sian O'Callaghan. 653 00:37:01,066 --> 00:37:03,753 But there is at least a chance you could be released, 654 00:37:03,754 --> 00:37:05,953 albeit you'd be in your 70s. 655 00:37:05,954 --> 00:37:07,785 If you're found guilty of Rebecca's murder, 656 00:37:07,786 --> 00:37:09,153 then you will never be released. 657 00:37:09,154 --> 00:37:12,009 So, actually, there's rather a lot riding on this. 658 00:37:12,010 --> 00:37:14,313 Which is why you've constructed this fantasy account 659 00:37:14,314 --> 00:37:17,577 of how you led the police to her body. 660 00:37:17,578 --> 00:37:19,713 It's what happened. 661 00:37:19,714 --> 00:37:23,393 Yes. Except, for it to be true, you have to try and convince the jury 662 00:37:23,394 --> 00:37:27,233 you have never met Rebecca Godden. 663 00:37:27,234 --> 00:37:29,673 I... I haven't. Which is why you're so desperate 664 00:37:29,674 --> 00:37:32,033 to try and rebut the evidence of Miss X, 665 00:37:32,034 --> 00:37:35,433 whom you inconveniently had sex with on two occasions. 666 00:37:35,434 --> 00:37:39,273 I've never set eyes on her before and, to be honest... 667 00:37:39,274 --> 00:37:41,633 ..she's not my type. Not your type? 668 00:37:41,634 --> 00:37:43,233 What is your type, then? 669 00:37:43,234 --> 00:37:47,553 Well, certainly not that thin. 670 00:37:47,554 --> 00:37:50,601 Is your type size eight? 671 00:37:50,602 --> 00:37:53,865 Size ten? 672 00:37:53,866 --> 00:37:56,833 Pretty, young women who are out and about on the streets of Swindon 673 00:37:56,834 --> 00:38:00,009 in the early hours of the morning, is that your type? 674 00:38:00,010 --> 00:38:03,657 About five feet, five feet two inches tall, 675 00:38:03,658 --> 00:38:05,961 on their own... 676 00:38:05,962 --> 00:38:08,841 ..vulnerable. 677 00:38:08,842 --> 00:38:11,299 Is that your type? 678 00:38:44,194 --> 00:38:45,899 PHONE VIBRATES 679 00:39:09,794 --> 00:39:11,713 WOMAN: Foreman of the jury, 680 00:39:11,714 --> 00:39:15,713 have you reached a verdict upon which you are all agreed? 681 00:39:15,714 --> 00:39:17,385 We have. 682 00:39:17,386 --> 00:39:20,265 Do you find the defendant, Christopher Halliwell, 683 00:39:20,266 --> 00:39:24,193 guilty or not guilty of murder? 684 00:39:24,194 --> 00:39:29,793 Guilty. SHE GASPS 685 00:39:29,794 --> 00:39:37,929 DIALOGUE IS MUTED 686 00:39:37,930 --> 00:39:40,833 Christopher John Halliwell... 687 00:39:40,834 --> 00:39:46,433 ..you have been convicted by a jury for the murder of Rebecca Godden. 688 00:39:46,434 --> 00:39:48,873 I observe that you lied to this jury 689 00:39:48,874 --> 00:39:52,521 about the circumstances of the murder of Rebecca Godden, 690 00:39:52,522 --> 00:39:55,209 just as you lied to the jury 691 00:39:55,210 --> 00:39:59,241 about the circumstances of the murder of Sian O'Callaghan. 692 00:39:59,242 --> 00:40:03,553 I have concluded that the level of your offending is exceptionally high 693 00:40:03,554 --> 00:40:06,537 and direct there will be a whole life order. 694 00:40:06,538 --> 00:40:08,589 Take him down. 695 00:40:20,834 --> 00:40:23,627 Where's Yvonne gone? Oh, she's gone to find Steve. 696 00:40:32,674 --> 00:40:42,441 DOOR OPENS 697 00:40:42,442 --> 00:40:47,241 Whole life? Yeah. 698 00:40:47,242 --> 00:40:49,793 HE EXHALES SLOWLY AND HEAVILY 699 00:40:49,794 --> 00:40:55,497 The judge said his account made no sense at all. He lied and lied. 700 00:40:55,498 --> 00:40:59,233 He was right, though. 701 00:40:59,234 --> 00:41:02,433 He did ruin me. 702 00:41:02,434 --> 00:41:04,713 I mean, it occurred to me, when I was facing him in court, 703 00:41:04,714 --> 00:41:06,633 that we cancelled each other out. 704 00:41:06,634 --> 00:41:08,361 That day, in order to bring him down, 705 00:41:08,362 --> 00:41:10,281 it was like I had to also lose everything. 706 00:41:10,282 --> 00:41:12,392 As if it was some sort of pact between us. 707 00:41:26,602 --> 00:41:30,273 Karen, we wondered if you could say something to the press. 708 00:41:30,274 --> 00:41:33,153 I've drafted some thoughts for you. 709 00:41:33,154 --> 00:41:35,553 I wondered if you and John could make a joint statement, 710 00:41:35,554 --> 00:41:36,777 mother and father together. 711 00:41:36,778 --> 00:41:39,465 Right. Because I'm not giving up, not till the truth comes out. 712 00:41:39,466 --> 00:41:42,433 What? That wasn't a trial, that was a travesty. 713 00:41:42,434 --> 00:41:44,513 What about the drug dealers Chris was talking about? 714 00:41:44,514 --> 00:41:46,273 Has anybody been looking for them? 715 00:41:46,274 --> 00:41:49,833 Was Fulcher involved with them? We need answers. 716 00:41:49,834 --> 00:41:51,753 I'm not doing a joint statement with John. 717 00:41:51,754 --> 00:41:53,481 You're on your own with him. 718 00:41:53,482 --> 00:41:59,433 And I don't need your notes. I know what I'm going to say. 719 00:41:59,434 --> 00:42:03,465 Steven... 720 00:42:03,466 --> 00:42:12,873 CAMERAS CLICK Can you take my bag? 721 00:42:12,874 --> 00:42:15,945 I want to place on record my thanks for the team 722 00:42:15,946 --> 00:42:18,913 led by Detective Superintendent Sean Memory, 723 00:42:18,914 --> 00:42:22,857 who have brought this case to a positive conclusion today. 724 00:42:22,858 --> 00:42:26,505 We have waited over five years for this moment. 725 00:42:26,506 --> 00:42:29,961 This has been an extremely painful journey, 726 00:42:29,962 --> 00:42:34,185 but at last we have finally received justice 727 00:42:34,186 --> 00:42:37,257 for our beautiful little girl Becky. 728 00:42:37,258 --> 00:42:39,753 Sean and his team were left with virtually nothing to go on 729 00:42:39,754 --> 00:42:42,441 after the evidence, initially gathered by Steve Fulcher, 730 00:42:42,442 --> 00:42:45,513 had to be thrown out virtually in its entirety. 731 00:42:45,514 --> 00:42:50,753 I want to thank, from the bottom of my heart, Steve Fulcher. 732 00:42:50,754 --> 00:42:56,457 I will always be indebted to him for bringing my little girl home. 733 00:42:56,458 --> 00:42:58,953 They worked tirelessly with the Crown Prosecution Service 734 00:42:58,954 --> 00:43:01,313 to uncover new evidence and bring this case to justice. 735 00:43:01,314 --> 00:43:03,393 They are to be congratulated. 736 00:43:03,394 --> 00:43:07,401 But Steve should never have suffered the terrible consequences, 737 00:43:07,402 --> 00:43:13,161 the loss of his reputation, the loss of his career... 738 00:43:13,162 --> 00:43:17,193 ..just for doing the right thing. 739 00:43:17,194 --> 00:43:19,393 Thank you. 740 00:43:19,394 --> 00:43:24,513 REPORTERS SHOUT QUESTIONS 741 00:43:24,514 --> 00:43:31,977 Go on. Go and talk to her. 742 00:43:31,978 --> 00:43:35,241 I can't. 743 00:43:35,242 --> 00:43:37,929 She's all right, you know? 744 00:43:37,930 --> 00:43:45,993 Like you, really. 745 00:43:45,994 --> 00:43:48,720 I just can't. It's too close. 746 00:43:59,626 --> 00:44:02,889 WOMAN: Steve Fulcher, this has been a landmark case in many ways. 747 00:44:02,890 --> 00:44:06,153 And I know it's been a difficult journey for you, personally. 748 00:44:06,154 --> 00:44:09,313 But how do you respond to those who say we cannot have the police 749 00:44:09,314 --> 00:44:11,721 riding roughshod over the rights of a suspect 750 00:44:11,722 --> 00:44:14,113 as if it were the 1970s again? I agree. 751 00:44:14,114 --> 00:44:17,793 I agree. But what if next time it's your daughter who's gone missing? 752 00:44:17,794 --> 00:44:21,793 And if another police officer finds himself in the position I was in, 753 00:44:21,794 --> 00:44:23,817 what does he do? 754 00:44:23,818 --> 00:44:25,353 Now, after what's happened to me, 755 00:44:25,354 --> 00:44:27,713 he would be perfectly entitled to give up on her, 756 00:44:27,714 --> 00:44:29,961 to take his suspect back to the police station 757 00:44:29,962 --> 00:44:32,457 and let a lawyer advise him to go, "No comment." 758 00:44:32,458 --> 00:44:38,913 Now, if she was still alive, your daughter would then inevitably die. 759 00:44:38,914 --> 00:44:43,233 And the police's official position on this seems to be, 760 00:44:43,234 --> 00:44:44,993 "So be it. 761 00:44:44,994 --> 00:44:48,993 "We're very sorry, but she'll just have to die, then." 762 00:44:48,994 --> 00:44:51,557 Is that what we want? 763 00:45:45,547 --> 00:45:50,547 Subtitles by explosiveskull www.OpenSubtitles.org 763 00:45:51,305 --> 00:46:51,410 Support us and become VIP member to remove all ads from www.OpenSubtitles.org 59483

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