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♪ [singing] ♪
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One can't help but notice the rhythms of-or the
pulse that was here, that is here, been here.
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The feel of Native American
is in a lot of rock 'n' roll.
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A lot of R&B musicians and blues
musicians talked about having Native blood.
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The one group that hasn't
really been investigated
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in terms of their contribution
is the Native Americans.
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[crowd cheering]
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♪ [three-chord
introduction to Rumble] ♪
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It's interesting how much of the Native
American element just filters through.
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♪ [three-chord riff] ♪
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The mixture of cultures; you never
know what's gonna come with it.
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And from that sometimes it's very
interesting artistic things happen, you know?
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From Charlie Patton to Link Wray;
Robbie Robertson invented the genre.
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Jimi Hendrix, the best in his field, you
know; Jesse Ed Davis, everybody wanted him.
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Well, that's interesting isn't it?
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♪ [three-chord riff] ♪
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Our peoples were part of the origin story
of blues and jazz and rock of American music,
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but we're left out of the story
consistently from the beginning.
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♪ [three-chord riff] ♪
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Figuring out that these people were
Indians and then we started to ask ourselves
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why didn't anyone else know that?
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♪♪
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It's an American story.
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It's a human story; don't break it apart.
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Pay the respect that is due.
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♪♪
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♪♪
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♪♪
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It was that-the sound of
that guitar is the key.
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Link Wray and that aggression.
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The sound of his guitar
embodied all my aspirations.
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It was the sound of freedom.
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Link Wray.
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Oh, boy. I've wanted to
meet you for a long time.
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There might not be a Who
were there no Link Wray;
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there might not be a Jeff Beck
Group... were there no Link Wray.
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There might not be a Led Zeppelin
if there were no Link Wray.
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Pete Townsend thought Link Wray was one
of the great guitar players of all time,
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that this guy had invented the power chord.
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Pete made it new; he put more
colour on it, put more weight on it.
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Turned it into I Can See For Miles.
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♪♪
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♪♪
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♪ Link Wray sings: I was born down in
the country Down where the cotton grows ♪
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This is Jim Pewter with, uh, Link and, uh,
Black River Swamp is, uh, really a nice tune.
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You know that's about a place where
I was born, down in North Carolina.
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- Oh, yeah?
- Yeah.
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I'm from North Carolina.
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And I'm out in the country of Dunn.
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And Dunn's a real small place
but I lived in the country
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in this place called Black River.
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♪ There's a place
down in the country. ♪
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♪ Where the pine
trees grow so tall ♪
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And they struggled; they were very poor
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and I'm sure he probably fished in the pond
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to try to get food because,
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um, you know it was-times
were really rough.
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♪ Stretchin' across
Black River Swamp ♪
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He's got Shawnee on there; Native American.
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You didn't go around telling
everybody you were Native American;
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everybody hid it because of the way
other people looked down on them.
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Link said that he hid under the bed one day
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because they could hear
the KKK coming through;
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because, like all cowards,
they would come at night
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and they would terrorize people
when they least expected it.
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♪ I can hear them
bullfrogs croaking ♪
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The Ku Klux Klan was after
anybody who wasn't white.
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♪ In the blackness
of the night ♪
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And if you were known to be an Indian,
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uh, you were just as susceptible
as any African-American person.
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♪ [church singing] ♪
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My Shawnee mommy, she went out into the
fields and was preaching to the blacks
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and to the Cherokee Indians
and poor whites saying,
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"You keep your morals high;
believe in God." You know.
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And me and my brothers
we were singing, you know,
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Will The Circle Be Unbroken
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and all those gospel songs
behind my mom you know,
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when she was out there preaching.
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♪ [singing] ♪
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I was, uh, taught by a black man called
Hambone who was raised up in the circus
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and he could play everything, you know.
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And, uh, he taught me how to play the
blues, you know, and I started off from there
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and then I started paying bands,
you know, to let me sit in with them
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so I could get better, you know.
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Were there early, um,
rock 'n' roll influences?
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I mean you were among some of the...
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There was no rock 'n' roll then.
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♪♪
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I was doing this hop at this record
hop in Fredericksburg, Virginia in 1957.
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The kids were gathered around in this arena
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and they were yelling for, uh, the stroll.
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Link says, "I don't know a stroll."
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I said, "I don't know a stroll."
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And Doug said, "I know the beat behind one.
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[imitates beat tapping on guitar]
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Ba-bow" And you
thi-you know.
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So I said, "OK." Then I went like this.
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And then my God, man, they're watching me.
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You know. He said, "Bam!"
I went (plays guitar).
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♪ [three chord riff] ♪
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♪♪
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It's in the middle of the night and the
radio's on and here comes this sound, you know,
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that makes you levitate
out of bed about four feet.
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♪♪
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What is he doing?
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There's no sound like
that nowhere on the air.
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♪♪
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It changed everything.
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Rumble made an indelible mark on the whole
evolution of where rock 'n' roll was gonna go.
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And then I found out that he was an Indian.
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That was the rawest form
of the kind of guitar
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that a lot of the guys that I listen to-
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it's where it started. You know?
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And it even still sounds better
when he does it. You know?
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♪♪
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I was in the cafeteria and
on the university P.A. system
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I heard "Bam, bam, bam;
domp, domp, domp, domp."
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I said, "What? Whoa, what is that?"
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Rumble had the power to push me
over the edge and it did help me say,
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"Fuck it. I'm gonna be a musician."
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♪♪
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I think Link Wray purely
loved rock 'n' roll and felt
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pissed off and annoyed and disappointed
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that in some ways because
he was Shawnee, half-Shawnee,
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and his family had been treated so badly
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he took that bitterness and created something
that was not reductive but proactive.
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♪♪
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And the idea Rumble just from
a superficial, almost reactionary level
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is like the fight, right?
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But for me it means to
disrupt, to roar, to be active.
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♪♪
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So Link Wray announced with the Rumble
that there was a shift happening in culture.
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You know, this is not going to be the bop and
the stroll it's going to be the Rumble.
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♪♪
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Here comes Link Wray with the
theme song of juvenile delinquency.
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You know. "Hey, rumble."
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♪♪
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I was surprised it got any airplay.
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And to be honest I mean I'm
not surprised it was banned.
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♪ [piece ends] ♪
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[cheers]
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He is the only person who has
an instrumental, no words, banned
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for fear it would incite
teenage gang violence.
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It was the sound, the chord progressions;
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that was the thing.
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It was the way they didn't understand
the feedback; it was the groove.
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It was-it was so many things
that turned people off.
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You know, everybody can't be
Pat Boone. You know what I mean?
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His influence was so immense.
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Every musician in the
world loves Link Wray.
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I don't know why the rest of the
world hasn't figured that out.
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♪ Kick out the jams,
motherfucker! ♪
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♪ [punk rock] ♪
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In the MC5, we would do these recording
sessions and the engineers would always say,
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"Oh, it's all distorted, man.
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You punks-aw, you're
playing the amp too loud."
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And I'd say, "Yes, I want it
distorted; that's what I want."
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"No, no; you want it clean like
at Motown so it goes 'chink'."
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I said, "No, I want it to go (makes
distorted sound) like Link Wray.
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You know, I want that-that
fuzz; I want the distortion."
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Link Wray's certainly one of the
architects of my sound and the MC5 sound,
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and a thousand other rock
guitar players since then.
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I mean, you know, if you trace-if
you connect the dots back, you know...
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so you can trace heavy metal and punk
rock and all that back to The Clash
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and The Ramones; uh, the New York
Dolls, The MC5 and a few others.
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And then before that,
who was there, you know?
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And he was one of the first that really
had a tone that pointed a way to the future.
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Link Wray is huge on all
modern electric guitar players.
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If they're saying he didn't
influence, uh, they're lying.
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[cheering]
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Thank you very much!
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[paddling]
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In the whole southeast area what we all know,
what we've heard through our own families,
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is that back when first contact happened,
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we had a very specific style of singing.
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♪ [strong voices in unison] ♪
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♪ [strong voices in unison] ♪
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And you can hear the spirit
of some of the old music
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before plantations and slavery
and so forth, and colonization.
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People are really shocked when they hear
the traditional music of the southeast.
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They're, like, "That's Indian music?
I thought that was African music."
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♪ [harmonizing] ♪
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The land of the southeast
itself informs the sound.
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We hear the birds here.
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We hear the water here, the
rivers, the canoe sounds.
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And that informs what
comes out of our mouth.
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All of American music that came from the south
was informed by our land and therefore by us.
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[birdsong]
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A music by Native people presented
a threat, was seen as dangerous.
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And people were arrested, singers and dancers
incarcerated for performing this music;
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treaty-guaranteed rations
withheld from them.
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♪♪
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The Federal government begins passing law
after law in an effort to control Native people
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in every way that you can imagine.
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♪♪
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They went after every part of our culture
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so of course they're
gonna go after the music
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because it's an integral
aspect of our culture.
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Because back in that time, in those times,
everybody had a morning song to greet the day.
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They were songs of ancestry;
they were songs of the old way.
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They went after our culture.
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It was genocide and they
wanted to erase every
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cultural perception of reality that we had.
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On December 29th, 1890,
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the U.S. Army surrounded
a number of Ghost Dancers
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at Wounded Knee and
slaughtered over three hundred,
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mostly women and children, but also men
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who were participating in the Ghost Dance.
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And this is essentially
the beginning of the banning
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of Native music in the United States.
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When I hear stories about
Wovoka creating the Ghost Dance,
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the dance that would make the Native Americans
invulnerable to the bullets of the white man
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so that they could rise
up from the reservations
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and kill off their oppressors;
they were that desperate.
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Was what music the blues?
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It might not have sounded like
it, but baby, that was the blues.
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That was the blues.
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[fireworks explosions]
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♪ [marching band] ♪
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Most people in America, what
little they have of Mardi Gras
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is drunken white people on
Bourbon Street packed wall-to-wall
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hollering at some woman
to show her tits. You know?
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This doesn't have anything
to do with Mardi Gras.
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♪♪
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If you want to witness and
participate in the real Mardi Gras,
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you have to go to the the heart of
the ghetto; that's the staging area.
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[percussion instruments and shouts]
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♪♪
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When my family came up from my home in
Louisiana, they migrated during the time when, uh,
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you know, things was rough for the
Indians so they came to New Orleans
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and they passed off as black
because they was dark-skinned.
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And they never even talked about it;
they'd never mention it because, you know,
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they were scared because they didn't
want to get sent to the reservation.
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♪ [shouts and percussion] ♪
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Big Chief! Big Chief!
237
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Hey boy! What they say!
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Mardi Gras more than a hell of a day.
239
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But Mardi Gras morning when Indians come
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we all gonna get together to have some fun.
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[shouts]
242
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♪ I'm gonna take 'em downtown! ♪
243
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♪ Early in the mornin'! ♪
244
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[shouts]
245
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♪ I'm gonna take 'em downtown! ♪
246
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Early in the mornin'!
247
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Seeing the Indians at Carnival
was getting to know who I was.
248
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That was the only time that
black men could put on feathers.
249
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[shouts and percussion]
250
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We're all a combination of indigenous
people and indigenous people of Africa.
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♪♪
252
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It was a Muscogeeon
village through this area.
253
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Our music is called Stomp Dance and
what you hear first is the calling,
254
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a call and response
255
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where the leader calls out
and then the men answer.
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♪♪
257
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When you hear that up against blues,
rock, jazz, it's part of the origin.
258
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♪ [singing] ♪
259
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Everybody in the neighbourhood,
everybody has grown up on this;
260
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they've been doing this
a hundred and fifty years.
261
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♪♪
262
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Basically they're in there masking
as black people in daily life.
263
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Because the Indians were treated
even worse than the slaves.
264
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♪♪
265
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When European settlers came here, they
first enslaved the Indians, lots of them.
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And they figured out the best way to
do this is to ship the men elsewhere.
267
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Being hunter-gatherer societies uh, they knew
how to escape and how to evade the raiders
268
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and how to come back and fight. So,
you ship them into the Caribbean ships,
269
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some of them to Africa,
keep the women here.
270
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And then later on, bring in African slaves.
271
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Ninety percent of the people in the ships coming
from Africa on some of those ships were men.
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Who did they have children with?
273
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And this is why eighty-five percent of
African-Americans who have been in this country
274
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before the Civil War claim
Native American ancestry.
275
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And all of them almost
say great-grandmother
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on the mother's line.
277
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♪♪
278
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And runaway slaves would be taken in
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on different Indian reservations.
280
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They're like, aw, come on, man, you know,
you can hang out with us; we'll hide you.
281
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And the next thing you knew, there was
these little black Indians running around.
282
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Everyone that was not white,
283
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was classified as "coloured,"
284
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so whether you were Indian
or black, you became coloured.
285
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If you had ten percent African,
you're considered black.
286
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You'd be ninety percent Indian,
but you're considered black.
287
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Why? Well, because it prevents Native
Americans from making claims to the land...
288
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and taking back what was stolen.
289
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And if they claimed their land and
claimed Indian, they could be shot.
290
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♪ [live band
performing zydeco] ♪
291
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When the African poly
rhythms and a Native American,
292
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four on the floor came together.
293
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That was the beginning of
what became American music.
294
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♪♪
295
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To me, I think of-of gumbo, which is
the quintessential New Orleans food.
296
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When I was growing up, gumbo was
you put everything you had in a pot.
297
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All that stuff together
makes this great meal.
298
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I'm part Native American, part African by
way of Haiti, part French, part Italian,
299
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and that's kind of what New Orleans
is, and it comes out so flavourful.
300
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Giacomo Fina Ne is what
they say, Big Chief coming,
301
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so tell them, better get out the way.
302
00:23:11,238 --> 00:23:13,406
New Orleans, the home of the
strong, home of the brave,
303
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so don't bother nobody with
a feather in their head.
304
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They bring lightning in the
morning, they won't bow down,
305
00:23:17,745 --> 00:23:21,714
tambourine rain is such a beautiful sound.
306
00:23:21,716 --> 00:23:23,582
Uptown lightning it comes down
307
00:23:23,584 --> 00:23:25,251
when my Chief on the street steps
308
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the thunder all beneath his feet.
309
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His suit can't be beat,
310
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That child wild from the sun to the night
311
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And when he opens such a beautiful sight.
312
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♪ Here comes the end
Just let 'em through ♪
313
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♪♪
314
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♪ [solo female voice] ♪
315
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♪ [other voices join] ♪
316
00:24:00,220 --> 00:24:11,596
♪ [other voices join] ♪
317
00:24:11,598 --> 00:24:15,633
For me it was just a huge revelation
that the banjo is an African instrument.
318
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The banjo for the first hundred years of
its existence was not a white instrument,
319
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you know, at all, it was
a plantation instrument.
320
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♪♪
321
00:24:31,786 --> 00:24:41,826
♪♪
322
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♪♪
323
00:24:51,139 --> 00:24:54,707
Our music is very much what you would hear.
324
00:24:54,709 --> 00:24:57,946
It's-I've heard people
call it pre-blues.
325
00:25:00,748 --> 00:25:07,186
And so it really sounds very much
like the roots of blues music.
326
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♪♪
327
00:25:17,230 --> 00:25:27,273
♪♪
328
00:25:27,275 --> 00:25:32,813
♪♪
329
00:25:34,347 --> 00:25:38,883
[train tracks clattering]
330
00:25:38,885 --> 00:25:52,797
♪ [blues fingerstyle guitar] ♪
331
00:25:52,799 --> 00:26:02,841
♪♪
332
00:26:02,843 --> 00:26:10,315
♪♪
333
00:26:10,317 --> 00:26:13,451
♪ Baby, saddle my pony ♪
334
00:26:13,453 --> 00:26:18,756
♪ Hitch up my black mare ♪
335
00:26:18,758 --> 00:26:21,860
♪ Baby, saddle up my pony ♪
336
00:26:21,862 --> 00:26:27,466
♪ Hitch up my black mare ♪
337
00:26:27,468 --> 00:26:33,238
Blues buffs, blues scholars, although
they can't really agree on anything,
338
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if they were forced into a room
and they had to identify, you know,
339
00:26:37,378 --> 00:26:44,649
perhaps the most singularly important
blues guitarist, singer, songwriter,
340
00:26:44,651 --> 00:26:49,988
the whole package, the greatest one that
ever was um, in the early 20th Century,
341
00:26:49,990 --> 00:26:53,926
if you tried to convince them to come up with
that answer, they'd probably say Charley Patton.
342
00:26:53,928 --> 00:27:03,968
♪♪
343
00:27:03,970 --> 00:27:08,674
He was the grandfather to
all of the Delta Blues guys.
344
00:27:08,676 --> 00:27:12,477
No matter how rough those recordings
are or how hard it is to listen to,
345
00:27:12,479 --> 00:27:15,346
there's nothing as immediate
as listening to that stuff.
346
00:27:15,348 --> 00:27:19,584
It's like a bomb went off. I
mean, his sound is so guttural,
347
00:27:19,586 --> 00:27:25,791
it sounds like what I imagine
that time must have felt like.
348
00:27:25,793 --> 00:27:28,761
Like he's just, he's just getting it out.
349
00:27:28,763 --> 00:27:34,803
You know, he's not even trying to make it
pretty. (laugh) It's just as raw as it gets.
350
00:27:42,809 --> 00:27:48,380
He was a profound influence on Bob Dylan,
Eric Clapton, Jack White, Bonnie Raitt,
351
00:27:48,382 --> 00:27:50,582
the list goes on and on and on.
352
00:27:50,584 --> 00:27:53,017
Charley Patton was an Indian.
353
00:27:53,019 --> 00:27:56,388
And he was the baddest
mother-fucker in the world.
354
00:27:56,390 --> 00:27:57,723
Howlin Wolf.
355
00:27:57,725 --> 00:28:00,726
♪♪
356
00:28:00,728 --> 00:28:03,696
He was from the area of
the Mississippi Delta,
357
00:28:03,698 --> 00:28:07,365
which is an area that
is rich in Blues history.
358
00:28:07,367 --> 00:28:09,834
It's not far from the Choctaw country.
359
00:28:09,836 --> 00:28:13,538
It's very likely that Charley
Patton was of Choctaw ancestry.
360
00:28:13,540 --> 00:28:24,983
♪♪
361
00:28:24,985 --> 00:28:27,753
Charley Patton's family
has an oral tradition
362
00:28:27,755 --> 00:28:30,488
of Native ancestry, of white ancestry,
363
00:28:30,490 --> 00:28:33,458
Creole ancestry,
African-American ancestry.
364
00:28:33,460 --> 00:28:35,960
All of those people made Patton who he was.
365
00:28:35,962 --> 00:28:44,870
♪ [Charley Patton song] ♪
366
00:28:44,872 --> 00:28:46,241
[laugh]
367
00:28:50,844 --> 00:28:55,949
See, so when I hear this, it's
Indian music to me, you know.
368
00:28:58,853 --> 00:29:00,052
And that rhythm...
369
00:29:00,054 --> 00:29:05,424
[clapping]
370
00:29:05,426 --> 00:29:08,761
I love Charley Patton,
his spirit and his music,
371
00:29:08,763 --> 00:29:11,496
it just connects me right back
372
00:29:11,498 --> 00:29:17,037
to where I come from, you know? I can
hear all those old traditional songs.
373
00:29:18,439 --> 00:29:19,772
Do you hear it?
374
00:29:19,774 --> 00:29:29,148
[laughs and sings along]
375
00:29:29,150 --> 00:29:31,417
♪ [new song] ♪
376
00:29:31,419 --> 00:29:42,160
[sings along]
377
00:29:42,162 --> 00:29:44,630
That's Indian music.
378
00:29:44,632 --> 00:29:46,564
With a guitar, you know.
379
00:29:46,566 --> 00:29:50,768
That's where it went, you know?
That's where traditional music went.
380
00:29:50,770 --> 00:29:53,037
It went like this.
381
00:29:53,039 --> 00:29:58,677
♪♪
382
00:29:58,679 --> 00:30:00,012
I hear it in the singing.
383
00:30:00,014 --> 00:30:02,680
I hear it in the singing
and I hear it in the rhythm
384
00:30:02,682 --> 00:30:04,149
because he plays the guitar like a drum.
385
00:30:04,151 --> 00:30:07,953
♪♪
386
00:30:07,955 --> 00:30:12,623
It was illegal to own a drum
in plantation slavery America.
387
00:30:12,625 --> 00:30:14,626
You could not own a drum.
388
00:30:14,628 --> 00:30:18,030
Or you will be killed because a drum
was an insurrectionary instrument.
389
00:30:18,032 --> 00:30:22,868
You could communicate to people, you could
organize people over distances for rebellion,
390
00:30:22,870 --> 00:30:27,206
You know? So that's why Charley
Patton had to play drum on his guitar.
391
00:30:27,208 --> 00:30:33,678
♪♪
392
00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:39,217
Patton was born during some of the worst
racial violence in the United States,
393
00:30:39,219 --> 00:30:42,187
so one of the ways that
you could perhaps get away
394
00:30:42,189 --> 00:30:45,591
from some of the worst
of the racial violence
395
00:30:45,593 --> 00:30:49,197
was to be secure inside of a
world such as here at Dockery.
396
00:30:51,565 --> 00:30:53,732
It was a place where people
could go and make money.
397
00:30:53,734 --> 00:30:56,067
The Dockery Plantation offered people more
398
00:30:56,069 --> 00:30:59,871
than they were getting in their
home communities in Mississippi.
399
00:30:59,873 --> 00:31:01,873
And that's why Patton's family moved there
400
00:31:01,875 --> 00:31:05,244
because they could have a
better life for themselves.
401
00:31:05,246 --> 00:31:07,946
♪ [singing] ♪
402
00:31:07,948 --> 00:31:09,515
There were Choctaw folks that moved there;
403
00:31:09,517 --> 00:31:12,284
there were African-American folks;
404
00:31:12,286 --> 00:31:14,719
there were Europeans that worked there.
405
00:31:14,721 --> 00:31:18,623
Charley Patton would have heard
a combination of influences
406
00:31:18,625 --> 00:31:21,793
that led to the emergence
of his guitar playing style.
407
00:31:21,795 --> 00:31:25,898
♪♪
408
00:31:25,900 --> 00:31:30,535
He was not very much into farm labour,
409
00:31:30,537 --> 00:31:33,240
but you didn't have too
many other opportunities.
410
00:31:39,947 --> 00:31:46,251
They would do gigs. It would be, you
know, Saturday night at somebody's house,
411
00:31:46,253 --> 00:31:50,822
somebody's back porch. Play
all night, play for some drinks.
412
00:31:50,824 --> 00:31:52,760
Maybe somebody would fry some fish.
413
00:31:54,728 --> 00:31:56,762
After they got out of the
church, even the reverends
414
00:31:56,764 --> 00:31:58,163
would go take their girls
415
00:31:58,165 --> 00:32:01,899
and go to the juke joints, you
know, where they had sex and food
416
00:32:01,901 --> 00:32:04,570
and gambling and all that stuff.
417
00:32:04,572 --> 00:32:08,275
Back then, rich and poor had to go to
juke joints if they wanted to party.
418
00:32:12,112 --> 00:32:16,081
Son House would say, you know, Patton
would throw the guitar up in the air
419
00:32:16,083 --> 00:32:18,852
and catch it and, you
know, not miss a beat.
420
00:32:23,958 --> 00:32:26,624
And just think, he's been working all week;
421
00:32:26,626 --> 00:32:29,961
and you ain't heard nothing but
lightning and birds and wind.
422
00:32:29,963 --> 00:32:32,331
And all of a sudden, you hear somebody go
423
00:32:32,333 --> 00:32:34,932
(imitating guitar sound).
424
00:32:34,934 --> 00:32:37,636
And I mean, the hair's probably
standing up on the back of your neck.
425
00:32:37,638 --> 00:32:41,707
♪ [guitar and voice] ♪
426
00:32:41,709 --> 00:32:44,342
He was doing Jimi Hendrix long before Jimi.
427
00:32:44,344 --> 00:32:46,945
Charley Patton may have started
the whole showmanship thing.
428
00:32:46,947 --> 00:32:49,614
But, you know, they had
to find their own identity;
429
00:32:49,616 --> 00:32:51,315
they had to separate
themselves from the other guys.
430
00:32:51,317 --> 00:32:53,951
I mean, there was probably a
lot of guys out there trying
431
00:32:53,953 --> 00:32:57,155
to not have to work in the cotton
field, you know what I mean?
432
00:32:57,157 --> 00:33:03,061
It's like, same as today, OK? We're all
trying to not work in that cotton field, right?
433
00:33:03,063 --> 00:33:10,968
♪♪
434
00:33:10,970 --> 00:33:14,773
The big deal about Dockery is that
Charley was here for such a long time
435
00:33:14,775 --> 00:33:18,377
that people came to him and he took
the time to teach them how to play.
436
00:33:18,379 --> 00:33:20,911
He taught Pop Staples how
to play when he was a child.
437
00:33:20,913 --> 00:33:23,081
Sun House was another one
that came here and played.
438
00:33:23,083 --> 00:33:24,783
That Howlin' Wolf came here as a youngster.
439
00:33:24,785 --> 00:33:31,023
♪♪
440
00:33:31,025 --> 00:33:36,160
A man came through the plantation
picking a guitar called Charley Patton,
441
00:33:36,162 --> 00:33:39,031
and I liked his sound.
442
00:33:39,033 --> 00:33:43,134
Every night that I'd get off
from work, I'd go to his house
443
00:33:43,136 --> 00:33:47,040
and he'd learn me how to pick
the guitar. So I got good with it.
444
00:33:55,181 --> 00:34:02,319
Wolf was the guy who basically took
Patton's music into the electric realm.
445
00:34:02,321 --> 00:34:05,156
The Stones got Howlin' Wolf to come.
446
00:34:05,158 --> 00:34:07,725
You can see Brian Jones' face.
447
00:34:07,727 --> 00:34:11,996
He's just like, "Oh my God, we
actually pulled this scam off
448
00:34:11,998 --> 00:34:16,000
and we got Howlin' Wolf to do this show."
449
00:34:16,002 --> 00:34:17,803
Tell us something about him, Brian.
450
00:34:17,805 --> 00:34:19,337
Well, when we first
started playing together
451
00:34:19,339 --> 00:34:21,739
we started playing because we
wanted to play Rhythm and Blues
452
00:34:21,741 --> 00:34:23,942
and Howlin' Wolf was
one of our greatest idols
453
00:34:23,944 --> 00:34:29,080
and it's a great pleasure to find
he's been booked on this show tonight.
454
00:34:29,082 --> 00:34:31,949
So I think it's time we shut
up and had Howlin' Wolf onstage!
455
00:34:31,951 --> 00:34:33,417
[audience starts screaming]
456
00:34:33,419 --> 00:34:35,853
Yeah I agree, let's get him
out, Howlin' Wolf, bring him on!
457
00:34:35,855 --> 00:34:48,466
♪♪
458
00:34:48,468 --> 00:34:55,841
♪ How many more years Do I have
to let you dog me around? ♪
459
00:34:55,843 --> 00:34:58,509
♪♪
460
00:34:58,511 --> 00:35:06,384
♪ How many more years Do I have
to let you dog me around? ♪
461
00:35:06,386 --> 00:35:08,520
♪♪
462
00:35:08,522 --> 00:35:11,489
♪ I would rather be dead ♪
463
00:35:11,491 --> 00:35:15,460
And once again, that mystery of
what it is and how awesome it is
464
00:35:15,462 --> 00:35:18,864
goes right back down to Charley
Patton and Dockery Farms.
465
00:35:18,866 --> 00:35:31,009
♪♪
466
00:35:31,011 --> 00:35:36,047
America didn't let the blues reach the white
kids until the British guys started playing it,
467
00:35:36,049 --> 00:35:39,884
then they thought it was something
new the British guys was bringing here.
468
00:35:39,886 --> 00:35:43,487
The Stones, the Beatles and whoever
else was picking up a guitar.
469
00:35:43,489 --> 00:35:52,062
♪ [song ends] ♪
470
00:35:52,064 --> 00:35:57,201
There's a definite thread from Charley
Patton, Howlin Wolf to Led Zeppelin, you know,
471
00:35:57,203 --> 00:35:59,069
it went like that basically.
472
00:35:59,071 --> 00:36:01,105
Jimmy Page will tell
you that if you ask him.
473
00:36:01,107 --> 00:36:04,176
♪ [thirties big
band swing jazz] ♪
474
00:36:04,178 --> 00:36:06,411
♪ [Mildred Bailey singing] ♪
475
00:36:06,413 --> 00:36:09,114
♪ I'm gonna leave you
cause it's high time ♪
476
00:36:09,116 --> 00:36:12,216
♪ Somebody else is
beatin' my time ♪
477
00:36:12,218 --> 00:36:14,386
♪ But you never hear me cry ♪
478
00:36:14,388 --> 00:36:17,054
♪ As long as you live,
you'll be dead if you die ♪
479
00:36:17,056 --> 00:36:18,255
[she starts next verse but stops]
480
00:36:18,257 --> 00:36:20,458
[band member shouts]
481
00:36:20,460 --> 00:36:21,826
Mildred: Well, I can't help it.
482
00:36:21,828 --> 00:36:22,828
[band stops]
483
00:36:22,830 --> 00:36:24,395
Oh fuck, I don't know how it goes.
484
00:36:24,397 --> 00:36:26,498
It's all the same; I can't
tell where to come in.
485
00:36:26,500 --> 00:36:28,132
[band counts the song back in]
486
00:36:28,134 --> 00:36:30,534
♪ I'm gonna leave you
cause it's high time ♪
487
00:36:30,536 --> 00:36:33,205
♪ Somebody else is
beatin' my time ♪
488
00:36:33,207 --> 00:36:38,109
Mildred began singing in speakeasies,
and she became big in speakeasies.
489
00:36:38,111 --> 00:36:42,614
In this little speakeasy that she and Benny
the Bootlegger had, she brewed her own beer.
490
00:36:42,616 --> 00:36:46,951
♪ [song continues] ♪
491
00:36:46,953 --> 00:36:48,386
But when Mildred Bailey came to New York
492
00:36:48,388 --> 00:36:50,554
in the late '20s, early '30s
493
00:36:50,556 --> 00:36:53,525
uh, everything was completely segregated.
494
00:36:53,527 --> 00:36:57,362
She knew who the great musicians were and
she started recording with black musicians
495
00:36:57,364 --> 00:36:59,096
almost from the moment she got here.
496
00:36:59,098 --> 00:37:02,433
♪ [song continues] ♪
497
00:37:02,435 --> 00:37:04,603
Mildred was a cornerstone.
498
00:37:04,605 --> 00:37:08,306
She serves as a cornerstone in
the direction that jazz took.
499
00:37:08,308 --> 00:37:12,611
♪ [song ends] ♪
500
00:37:12,613 --> 00:37:22,654
♪ [single drone] ♪
501
00:37:22,656 --> 00:37:28,460
♪ [single drone] ♪
502
00:37:28,462 --> 00:37:34,632
This was her mother's land
for generations before Mildred
503
00:37:34,634 --> 00:37:43,107
and my grandmother was the
recipient of ancient music.
504
00:37:43,109 --> 00:37:50,080
♪ [single female voice] ♪
505
00:37:50,082 --> 00:37:56,388
On the Coeur D'Alene Reservation, there
was no social gathering without singing.
506
00:37:56,390 --> 00:38:01,025
♪ [pure high notes] ♪
507
00:38:01,027 --> 00:38:12,504
♪♪
508
00:38:12,506 --> 00:38:18,643
The way the notes are stretched and
condensed and move over the bar lines.
509
00:38:18,645 --> 00:38:20,511
Mildred sings from Lover, Come Back to Me
510
00:38:20,513 --> 00:38:26,216
♪ I remember every little
thing you used to do ♪
511
00:38:26,218 --> 00:38:31,156
When Mildred Bailey does it, it's hard not
to look at the way those glides are used
512
00:38:31,158 --> 00:38:35,426
in the traditional songs of
the region where she grew up.
513
00:38:35,428 --> 00:38:43,701
♪ Every road I walk along
I've walked along with you ♪
514
00:38:43,703 --> 00:38:49,473
When asked how she came to
be the singer that she became,
515
00:38:49,475 --> 00:38:51,710
she pointed to the
Indian songs of her youth.
516
00:38:51,712 --> 00:39:00,652
♪♪
517
00:39:00,654 --> 00:39:07,458
♪ Old rockin' chair's got me ♪
518
00:39:07,460 --> 00:39:11,562
She was one of the great
improvisers of jazz.
519
00:39:11,564 --> 00:39:16,000
You know, you say, (sings)
"Old rocking chair's got me."
520
00:39:16,002 --> 00:39:18,536
You sing it, maybe it's written
that way, but it always says,
521
00:39:18,538 --> 00:39:21,239
(sings) "Old rocking
chair's got me," you know.
522
00:39:21,241 --> 00:39:25,409
You just change it, you know,
whatever you feel at the moment.
523
00:39:25,411 --> 00:39:29,580
It's something that you
can't learn in school.
524
00:39:29,582 --> 00:39:37,755
I'm eighty years old, you know, what am I
talking about, I'm eighty-eight and uh (laughter)
525
00:39:37,757 --> 00:39:42,192
from sixteen to twenty years old,
I was working as a singing waiter
526
00:39:42,194 --> 00:39:48,165
in Astoria, Long Island here and that's the
only thing I listened to, was Mildred Bailey.
527
00:39:48,167 --> 00:39:51,536
I was completely influenced
by Mildred Bailey.
528
00:39:51,538 --> 00:39:54,705
She sang perfect, for me.
529
00:39:54,707 --> 00:39:58,375
Radio announcer: And here's your
rocking chair lady, Mildred Bailey!
530
00:39:58,377 --> 00:40:03,248
Hi everybody, come right in and cut yourself
a share of kicks around that old rocking chair.
531
00:40:03,250 --> 00:40:05,583
♪ [forties big band swing] ♪
532
00:40:05,585 --> 00:40:08,219
♪ Noah, Noah, let me come in ♪
533
00:40:08,221 --> 00:40:11,288
♪ Doors all fastened and
the windows pinned... ♪
534
00:40:11,290 --> 00:40:15,527
She's the first female band singer, period.
535
00:40:15,529 --> 00:40:18,730
And the first female to have a radio show.
536
00:40:18,732 --> 00:40:22,266
♪ Noah said you done
lost your track. ♪
537
00:40:22,268 --> 00:40:27,806
Frank Sinatra went up to Julia Rinker at
a recording session in the '70s and said,
538
00:40:27,808 --> 00:40:33,277
"I knew your aunt, and she is
one of the most significant people
539
00:40:33,279 --> 00:40:39,250
in terms of how I learned to sing and who I
emulate to this day." Frank Sinatra said that.
540
00:40:39,252 --> 00:40:42,654
♪ Keep your hand on
the plow, hold on! ♪
541
00:40:42,656 --> 00:40:48,259
Ella Fitzgerald, Billie Holiday, Bing Crosby,
she had a hand in shaping jazz vocal style.
542
00:40:48,261 --> 00:40:51,495
♪ Wanna get to heaven,
I'll tell you how ♪
543
00:40:51,497 --> 00:40:54,531
♪ Keep your hand on
the gospel plow! ♪
544
00:40:54,533 --> 00:41:00,504
It's important not just to re-situate
Mildred Bailey in that jazz narrative,
545
00:41:00,506 --> 00:41:06,344
but by doing that, we bring the story
of the Native American perspective
546
00:41:06,346 --> 00:41:07,812
into that jazz narrative.
547
00:41:07,814 --> 00:41:11,885
[song ends / applause]
548
00:41:14,386 --> 00:41:17,221
[whistles]
549
00:41:17,223 --> 00:41:20,759
Loudspeaker: Seeing as this is
an unlawful assembly. Disperse.
550
00:41:24,431 --> 00:41:31,768
[screams]
551
00:41:31,770 --> 00:41:33,705
♪ [folk guitar strumming] ♪
552
00:41:33,707 --> 00:41:43,748
[Buffy Saint Marie sings
Now that the Buffalo's Gone]
553
00:41:43,750 --> 00:41:51,288
[Buffy Saint Marie sings
Now that the Buffalo's Gone]
554
00:41:51,290 --> 00:41:57,161
♪ Can you remember the time ♪
555
00:41:57,163 --> 00:42:01,399
♪ That you have held
your head high? ♪
556
00:42:01,401 --> 00:42:04,768
♪ And told all of your
friends of your Indian claim ♪
557
00:42:04,770 --> 00:42:09,207
♪ Proud good lady
and proud good man ♪
558
00:42:09,209 --> 00:42:12,576
I went to Greenwich Village
and I was not in show business.
559
00:42:12,578 --> 00:42:16,714
I was a college girl on her way to India
and I thought I would try my luck at singing.
560
00:42:16,716 --> 00:42:18,583
And it was folk music time.
561
00:42:18,585 --> 00:42:24,321
♪ Oh, it's written in
books and in songs ♪
562
00:42:24,323 --> 00:42:29,761
♪ That we've been
mistreated and wronged ♪
563
00:42:29,763 --> 00:42:34,464
All of a sudden the streets
were just alive with people
564
00:42:34,466 --> 00:42:38,268
with broader minds than
the generation before.
565
00:42:38,270 --> 00:42:42,306
And it was just the perfect
time for me, you know.
566
00:42:42,308 --> 00:42:45,243
If it had been a different time, I
probably never would have had a career.
567
00:42:45,245 --> 00:42:49,246
♪ And you feel you're a
part of these ones... ♪
568
00:42:49,248 --> 00:42:53,451
At the essence, folk music is
telling the stories of the day.
569
00:42:53,453 --> 00:42:58,890
And it's telling stories of the day or the
people who are most of the time the most excluded,
570
00:42:58,892 --> 00:43:03,328
the most-the most
uh, the trampled-upon.
571
00:43:03,330 --> 00:43:11,402
This is a song about a human
being who is also an Indian
572
00:43:11,404 --> 00:43:14,004
and if you don't remember his name,
573
00:43:14,006 --> 00:43:20,545
I think you may after this
song. It's called Ira Hayes.
574
00:43:20,547 --> 00:43:25,817
The first folk singer signed at Columbia
was not Bob Dylan, it was Peter La Farge.
575
00:43:25,819 --> 00:43:31,556
♪ For a thousand years The
sparkling water rushed ♪
576
00:43:31,558 --> 00:43:34,891
♪ Till the white man
stole their water rights ♪
577
00:43:34,893 --> 00:43:38,696
For natives, for the singer-songwriter,
Peter La Farge was the man.
578
00:43:38,698 --> 00:43:42,966
He was addressing the reality we were
going through and our attitude towards it.
579
00:43:42,968 --> 00:43:45,502
We were listening to each other's music.
580
00:43:45,504 --> 00:43:49,741
There was a real protest
movement going on about Vietnam.
581
00:43:49,743 --> 00:43:53,710
Universal Soldier on, you know,
I mean, she was an activist;
582
00:43:53,712 --> 00:43:58,348
she was the first woman of of
activism that had an audience.
583
00:43:58,350 --> 00:44:03,353
♪ He's five-foot-two
and he's six-feet-four ♪
584
00:44:03,355 --> 00:44:06,958
♪ He fights with missiles
and with spears ♪
585
00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:10,862
She was very instrumental
in making those images
586
00:44:10,864 --> 00:44:17,734
and those points clear to a
very open and willing audience.
587
00:44:17,736 --> 00:44:26,444
♪ And he's fighting in Canada He's fighting
in France He's fighting in the USA ♪
588
00:44:26,446 --> 00:44:31,949
Unlike my peers in show business uh,
who had never been to a reservation,
589
00:44:31,951 --> 00:44:42,759
and unlike my peers on the reservation
who had no clout or power or voice um,
590
00:44:42,761 --> 00:44:44,862
I had those two.
591
00:44:44,864 --> 00:44:47,832
♪ This is not the way
we put an end to war. ♪
592
00:44:47,834 --> 00:44:56,008
[song ends/applause]
593
00:44:59,779 --> 00:45:05,817
♪ Old Custer he split his men
Well, he won't do that again. ♪
594
00:45:05,819 --> 00:45:09,754
♪ The general, he don't
ride well anymore. ♪
595
00:45:09,756 --> 00:45:13,924
Johnny Cash wanted to make a folk
record and he had seen La Farge before.
596
00:45:13,926 --> 00:45:18,429
And he said, "I have to meet this musician."
And Johnny Cash felt very connected,
597
00:45:18,431 --> 00:45:21,833
and then they hung out and spoke and he
said, "I want to take some of your songs
598
00:45:21,835 --> 00:45:24,402
and turn them into a record."
599
00:45:24,404 --> 00:45:27,004
He was in an extremely
high moment in his career
600
00:45:27,006 --> 00:45:30,808
coming off the success of Ring of Fire.
601
00:45:30,810 --> 00:45:35,846
♪ I went down, down, down
And the flames went higher ♪
602
00:45:35,848 --> 00:45:42,553
♪ And it burns, burns, burns The
ring of fire, the ring of fire ♪
603
00:45:42,555 --> 00:45:46,656
And even at that moment, riding
the high of these giant hits,
604
00:45:46,658 --> 00:45:50,728
Columbia Records are still trying
to block him from making this record.
605
00:45:50,730 --> 00:45:53,163
Johnny was fighting and
ready to throw his career away
606
00:45:53,165 --> 00:45:54,966
if they wouldn't put this record out.
607
00:45:54,968 --> 00:45:57,835
He was going to put it out, you
know, no matter what they said.
608
00:45:57,837 --> 00:46:00,772
He knew this album was
essentially censored and banned.
609
00:46:00,774 --> 00:46:06,109
So Johnny Cash decides to write
a letter about his displeasure.
610
00:46:06,111 --> 00:46:10,781
Line after line of scathing
indictment of the record industry.
611
00:46:10,783 --> 00:46:14,652
And he himself putting the
letter in the record sleeve
612
00:46:14,654 --> 00:46:17,955
and then personally not just mailing
the record to the specific DJs,
613
00:46:17,957 --> 00:46:22,627
but appearing in the city when he was
performing to the DJ with the record and saying,
614
00:46:22,629 --> 00:46:24,127
"Just give it a chance."
615
00:46:24,129 --> 00:46:27,031
I've got very little
Indian blood in me myself,
616
00:46:27,033 --> 00:46:29,801
except in my heart I've
got 100% for you tonight.
617
00:46:29,803 --> 00:46:34,038
[applause and whistles]
618
00:46:34,040 --> 00:46:38,176
♪ Gather round me people
There's a story I would tell ♪
619
00:46:38,178 --> 00:46:42,480
♪ About a brave young Indian
That we should remember well ♪
620
00:46:42,482 --> 00:46:44,714
♪ From the tribe of
the Pima Indian ♪
621
00:46:44,716 --> 00:46:47,150
♪ A proud and peaceful band... ♪
622
00:46:47,152 --> 00:46:49,587
Well, I asked the DJs, "Why
don't you play Bitter Tears?"
623
00:46:49,589 --> 00:46:52,757
And then it was the same answer, "Well,
it makes you feel guilty, you know."
624
00:46:52,759 --> 00:46:55,025
"Uh, I didn't wreck your damn life."
625
00:46:55,027 --> 00:46:57,929
"You know, I didn't take away
your damn land, it wasn't me."
626
00:46:57,931 --> 00:46:59,996
I'm, "Well, so what?"
627
00:46:59,998 --> 00:47:01,933
"I'm not telling you
did, why don't you put..."
628
00:47:01,935 --> 00:47:03,033
"Well, we can't do that."
629
00:47:03,035 --> 00:47:12,743
♪♪
630
00:47:12,745 --> 00:47:14,712
Here they were.
631
00:47:14,714 --> 00:47:19,150
They were all hunted down, up this
canyon as far as those pine trees are,
632
00:47:19,152 --> 00:47:23,154
across the creek over there.
633
00:47:23,156 --> 00:47:25,255
By America banning that album,
634
00:47:25,257 --> 00:47:28,926
it just closed everyone's conscience
635
00:47:28,928 --> 00:47:32,966
of the American Indian and their struggles.
636
00:47:36,201 --> 00:47:39,770
I was no longer a marginalized
person writing Universal Soldier
637
00:47:39,772 --> 00:47:43,140
or talking about Native American
issues in a coffee house.
638
00:47:43,142 --> 00:47:46,844
All of a sudden I was talking about
those things on big-time television.
639
00:47:46,846 --> 00:47:50,047
And all of a sudden everything disappeared.
640
00:47:50,049 --> 00:47:52,019
All of a sudden there was no interest.
641
00:47:55,855 --> 00:48:00,024
And it was only twenty, twenty-five
years later that in Toronto,
642
00:48:00,026 --> 00:48:04,194
a radio broadcaster started an
interview by apologizing to me
643
00:48:04,196 --> 00:48:07,698
for having gone along with letters
written on White House stationery
644
00:48:07,700 --> 00:48:11,736
commending them for supressing my
music, which "deserved to be suppressed."
645
00:48:11,738 --> 00:48:15,239
And that's the way he started the interview
646
00:48:15,241 --> 00:48:20,210
Apparently, I had FBI files and got blacklisted,
although I didn't know it at the time.
647
00:48:20,212 --> 00:48:23,880
And later on it was the
CIA as well, I understand.
648
00:48:23,882 --> 00:48:26,750
They went after Buffy and
they went after a lot of people
649
00:48:26,752 --> 00:48:29,155
at that time just to kind
of keep them silenced.
650
00:48:32,190 --> 00:48:36,861
Buffy: I think I could have been more
effective had I not been gagged in the US.
651
00:48:36,863 --> 00:48:39,129
But who was it who owned the newspapers?
652
00:48:39,131 --> 00:48:40,698
Who owned the television stations?
653
00:48:40,700 --> 00:48:41,998
Who owned the radio stations?
654
00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:44,868
Were they going to play
Buffy Sainte-Marie? No!
655
00:48:44,870 --> 00:48:46,670
It was the oil companies.
656
00:48:46,672 --> 00:48:49,607
It was people who were digging
for uranium, stealing uranium,
657
00:48:49,609 --> 00:48:51,174
transferring it into private hands.
658
00:48:51,176 --> 00:48:52,643
That's who owned all that.
659
00:48:52,645 --> 00:48:56,647
You think that they were going to be
making me a star? I don't think so.
660
00:48:56,649 --> 00:49:09,062
♪ [soft piano] ♪
661
00:49:14,366 --> 00:49:24,609
♪ [acoustic blues] ♪
662
00:49:24,611 --> 00:49:34,618
♪ [acoustic blues] ♪
663
00:49:34,620 --> 00:49:37,187
Well, what Jimi was doing when he
was playing Hear My Train A Comin',
664
00:49:37,189 --> 00:49:39,890
it was for a television show, I think.
665
00:49:39,892 --> 00:49:45,062
No amps, no pedals, no wah-wah's, no tricks,
no dancing and no playing with his teeth.
666
00:49:45,064 --> 00:49:50,000
And he's just bringing pure-the power
of the earth and history through him.
667
00:49:50,002 --> 00:49:54,871
♪ Waitin' for the train, yeah ♪
668
00:49:54,873 --> 00:49:58,643
He's bringing the Charley Patton, you
know, he's bringing uh, the Link Wray,
669
00:49:58,645 --> 00:50:02,346
he's bringing all those
things up through him.
670
00:50:02,348 --> 00:50:10,120
Well, I knew he had music in him, because when
he was small, his daddy bought him a guitar,
671
00:50:10,122 --> 00:50:15,725
an old guitar for him to play
on, you know, around with the boys
672
00:50:15,727 --> 00:50:18,696
and so I knew he was musical.
673
00:50:18,698 --> 00:50:22,400
But I didn't know that he had
that much music in him, you see.
674
00:50:22,402 --> 00:50:25,803
♪♪
675
00:50:25,805 --> 00:50:27,804
My grandma lived to be a hundred years old,
676
00:50:27,806 --> 00:50:29,707
which is um, amazing feat to itself but um,
677
00:50:29,709 --> 00:50:33,444
her father was slave, freed.
678
00:50:33,446 --> 00:50:39,049
Her mother was half Cherokee, and
she grew up on the reservation.
679
00:50:39,051 --> 00:50:42,185
So she always kept that um, memory
680
00:50:42,187 --> 00:50:48,025
of being proud of being Cherokee.
681
00:50:48,027 --> 00:50:49,826
Being part Native was very
meaningful to my grandmother.
682
00:50:49,828 --> 00:50:54,867
She talked about that a lot and really
instilled that in all of us, but especially Jimi.
683
00:50:58,004 --> 00:51:02,172
She was a-a singer, a dancer,
and she was in Vaudeville.
684
00:51:02,174 --> 00:51:06,976
♪♪
685
00:51:06,978 --> 00:51:14,085
She had this beautiful trunk, and
it had feathers and boas and velvet,
686
00:51:14,087 --> 00:51:17,388
and Jimi used to love
to play in this trunk.
687
00:51:17,390 --> 00:51:20,924
Try on the vests, try on
the hats with a huge feather
688
00:51:20,926 --> 00:51:24,864
and beautiful tan suede coats
that were full of fringe.
689
00:51:28,134 --> 00:51:31,835
Back then, my room was
covered with Jimi posters.
690
00:51:31,837 --> 00:51:35,505
And I used to have to kind of
laugh because some of the posters,
691
00:51:35,507 --> 00:51:40,511
they made Jimi really dark,
like really like super dark.
692
00:51:40,513 --> 00:51:43,379
And I was just like, he wasn't that dark.
693
00:51:43,381 --> 00:51:50,453
And he was very, very fair and he had caramel
coloured skin and beautiful almond-shaped eyes,
694
00:51:50,455 --> 00:51:54,859
and you could definitely tell he had
various cultures that he was born with.
695
00:51:54,861 --> 00:52:01,866
♪ [electric guitar riffs] ♪
696
00:52:01,868 --> 00:52:07,471
The package that was Jimi Hendrix was
that indigenous quality that he had in him
697
00:52:07,473 --> 00:52:10,141
that a lot of people don't
know that he had in him.
698
00:52:10,143 --> 00:52:14,078
But, you know, to bring that to the
stage and celebrate it through his music
699
00:52:14,080 --> 00:52:17,114
and his presence, you know,
that adds to the power, man.
700
00:52:17,116 --> 00:52:32,062
♪♪
701
00:52:32,064 --> 00:52:34,601
So during that period of
time, now Indians are in.
702
00:52:37,837 --> 00:52:39,837
The hippies, the flower children emerging.
703
00:52:39,839 --> 00:52:41,608
So they want to be Indians themselves.
704
00:52:51,517 --> 00:52:55,419
When he went up to Woodstock you have
the beautiful white jacket with fringe,
705
00:52:55,421 --> 00:52:58,087
with turquoise beading.
706
00:52:58,089 --> 00:53:02,859
Part of it is, yes, it is the '60s, but for
him it was much more meaningful than that.
707
00:53:02,861 --> 00:53:08,098
When we reached the site
of the Woodstock Festival,
708
00:53:08,100 --> 00:53:10,835
Mitch Mitchell, the drummer, looked
out he says, "Oh my goodness!"
709
00:53:10,837 --> 00:53:12,203
he'd never seen that many people before.
710
00:53:12,205 --> 00:53:15,339
And I said, "What is it, Mitch?"
And I looked out and said, "Oh no!"
711
00:53:15,341 --> 00:53:17,308
[roaring crowd]
712
00:53:17,310 --> 00:53:22,179
And then Jimi looked out and said,
"Hm," with all the wisdom that he had,
713
00:53:22,181 --> 00:53:24,448
I don't know where he got
this wisdom, but he said,
714
00:53:24,450 --> 00:53:28,585
"You know, those people are
sending a lot of energy up on stage,
715
00:53:28,587 --> 00:53:33,424
so let us take that energy, utilize
it, and send it back to them."
716
00:53:33,426 --> 00:53:37,995
[cheers and appluse]
717
00:53:37,997 --> 00:53:44,567
I see that we meet again.
Hmm. Well, well, well.
718
00:53:44,569 --> 00:53:48,004
And when he's doing the Star
Spangled Banner at Woodstock
719
00:53:48,006 --> 00:53:53,476
it just sounded like everything that had
happened up to that point in his life,
720
00:53:53,478 --> 00:53:56,413
in his family's life, it
was this amazing collision
721
00:53:56,415 --> 00:54:03,187
of putting what the country was going
through or or his generation to sound.
722
00:54:03,189 --> 00:54:05,489
You know, it was a pretty amazing moment.
723
00:54:05,491 --> 00:54:19,203
♪ [Star Spangled Banner] ♪
724
00:54:19,205 --> 00:54:22,573
I think he was including
all of his frustration
725
00:54:22,575 --> 00:54:25,576
with civil rights, with racism,
726
00:54:25,578 --> 00:54:29,379
with the war in Vietnam,
with political oppression,
727
00:54:29,381 --> 00:54:31,547
and I think they all
come out in his playing.
728
00:54:31,549 --> 00:54:34,284
I mean, you hear it. He's
painting a picture for you.
729
00:54:34,286 --> 00:54:35,652
All you gotta do is listen.
730
00:54:35,654 --> 00:54:46,429
♪♪
731
00:54:46,431 --> 00:54:49,533
Some people thought at that
time it was sacrilegious.
732
00:54:49,535 --> 00:54:55,004
And my dad got really tense and he wasn't
breathing and I was like, "Are you OK?"
733
00:54:55,006 --> 00:54:57,507
And he said (shakes her head).
734
00:54:57,509 --> 00:55:01,511
He kept looking over at the police officer
and he said, "I really..." once it was over,
735
00:55:01,513 --> 00:55:05,181
he could breathe, because he thought the
police officer was going to arrest him,
736
00:55:05,183 --> 00:55:07,417
because you just didn't do that then.
737
00:55:07,419 --> 00:55:08,953
♪♪
738
00:55:08,955 --> 00:55:12,288
He was very proud.
739
00:55:12,290 --> 00:55:18,962
I mean, he was very proud of being Native
and being African American and being Scottish.
740
00:55:18,964 --> 00:55:23,299
It's part of your legacy; it's part of
your heritage; it's part of who you are
741
00:55:23,301 --> 00:55:25,572
and what you want to reflect and represent.
742
00:55:30,475 --> 00:55:33,310
It's kind of the American
superhero in a way.
743
00:55:33,312 --> 00:55:38,214
It's like, he's a little bit of everything
and uh, and, but none of it's diluted.
744
00:55:38,216 --> 00:55:41,752
It's like he's more powerful because of it.
745
00:55:41,754 --> 00:55:45,859
♪♪
746
00:55:48,727 --> 00:55:50,294
[car horn honking]
747
00:55:50,296 --> 00:56:00,337
♪ [rock 'n' roll] ♪
748
00:56:00,339 --> 00:56:07,111
♪ [rock 'n' roll] ♪
749
00:56:07,113 --> 00:56:15,185
Yonge Street from when I was very
young, it was a centre of music
750
00:56:15,187 --> 00:56:18,054
that I didn't know how things were
751
00:56:18,056 --> 00:56:22,158
in Chicago or Detroit of New York,
752
00:56:22,160 --> 00:56:25,228
but Yonge Street was on fire.
753
00:56:25,230 --> 00:56:34,103
♪♪
754
00:56:34,105 --> 00:56:37,306
You'd try to listen through the
doors or peek through the windows,
755
00:56:37,308 --> 00:56:40,044
and then somebody would
go in one of these places
756
00:56:40,046 --> 00:56:42,279
and you would hear the
music come flooding out
757
00:56:42,281 --> 00:56:47,250
and it would be like, "Oh, did you hear
that?" you know, just those few seconds.
758
00:56:47,252 --> 00:56:54,324
♪ [Bo-Diddley] ♪
759
00:56:54,326 --> 00:56:58,694
When I was sixteen, Ronnie Hawkins
hired me to play in the Hawks.
760
00:56:58,696 --> 00:57:02,833
♪♪
761
00:57:02,835 --> 00:57:05,201
All of a sudden, they were our Beatles.
762
00:57:05,203 --> 00:57:08,272
These guys could do no
wrong. They just killed me.
763
00:57:08,274 --> 00:57:13,176
♪ Hey, Bo Diddley! ♪
764
00:57:13,178 --> 00:57:16,245
And Robbie was just outrageous.
765
00:57:16,247 --> 00:57:23,821
He'd launch into a solo and we'd just stand there
and think, "Oh my God, listen to this guy play.
766
00:57:23,823 --> 00:57:25,422
How does he do that?"
767
00:57:25,424 --> 00:57:29,625
♪ [solo guitar] ♪
768
00:57:29,627 --> 00:57:35,098
Robbie came up with something that
I hadn't heard anybody else do.
769
00:57:35,100 --> 00:57:38,502
He just didn't play like anybody else.
770
00:57:38,504 --> 00:57:42,508
♪♪
771
00:57:52,852 --> 00:57:58,388
♪ [bluegrass band] ♪
772
00:57:58,390 --> 00:58:04,560
♪♪
773
00:58:04,562 --> 00:58:11,534
My real guitar lessons were at
the Six Nation Indian Reserve.
774
00:58:11,536 --> 00:58:19,643
All my cousins, uncles, aunts, everybody,
seemed like they could play an instrument.
775
00:58:19,645 --> 00:58:31,621
♪ Oh, sometimes I can see The
things you wanted me to be ♪
776
00:58:31,623 --> 00:58:39,196
This mix between a Native kind of
music and a country kind of music.
777
00:58:39,198 --> 00:58:41,899
So I thought, well,
this is just what you do.
778
00:58:41,901 --> 00:58:46,335
I've got to learn how to do this.
I've got to get into this club.
779
00:58:46,337 --> 00:58:50,274
And there was this key expression,
780
00:58:50,276 --> 00:58:54,210
"Be proud you're an Indian,
but be careful who you tell."
781
00:58:54,212 --> 00:58:58,515
♪♪
782
00:58:58,517 --> 00:59:01,784
And I used to tell everybody
that one of these days
783
00:59:01,786 --> 00:59:05,288
I'm gonna go out and I'm gonna
play music all over the world.
784
00:59:05,290 --> 00:59:11,395
And they'd be like, "You know, we don't
want to see you get a broken heart,
785
00:59:11,397 --> 00:59:13,964
because that doesn't
happen to people like us."
786
00:59:13,966 --> 00:59:18,368
♪♪
787
00:59:18,370 --> 00:59:23,707
I was like, "No, no, no, you can't spoil my
dream. I'm in the middle of it." You know.
788
00:59:23,709 --> 00:59:25,975
"Don't wake me up now."
789
00:59:25,977 --> 00:59:29,580
And so I went and I pursued these things.
790
00:59:29,582 --> 00:59:34,984
And then joining up with Bob Dylan, and
then we're in a musical revolution now.
791
00:59:34,986 --> 00:59:38,455
Now we're doing something that has
reverberations around the world.
792
00:59:38,457 --> 00:59:40,390
Don't boo me anymore.
793
00:59:40,392 --> 00:59:43,960
Don't boo me, God they're
booing, I can't stand it.
794
00:59:43,962 --> 00:59:46,797
Oh my God, it's hard to get
in tune when they're booing!
795
00:59:46,799 --> 00:59:51,000
When Bob decided to take a
band out, he chose the Hawks.
796
00:59:51,002 --> 00:59:52,935
Just as the folk world's starting to
797
00:59:52,937 --> 00:59:56,505
finally relate to him, he leaves.
798
00:59:56,507 --> 01:00:01,380
He plugs in, causing enormous reactions.
799
01:00:05,817 --> 01:00:09,121
That group considered electrified
rock and roll commercial.
800
01:00:11,556 --> 01:00:14,357
And therefore, a betrayal politically.
801
01:00:14,359 --> 01:00:16,993
And I think they caught the brunt of it.
802
01:00:16,995 --> 01:00:22,366
I think then Dylan says, "Play it fuckin'
loud." And they played Like a Rolling Stone.
803
01:00:22,368 --> 01:00:26,335
And Robbie is there literally, I
think he said, "Play it fuckin' loud."
804
01:00:26,337 --> 01:00:27,603
Bang! He turned it up.
805
01:00:27,605 --> 01:00:38,681
♪ [Like a Rolling Stone] ♪
806
01:00:38,683 --> 01:00:40,850
And they were phenomenal, all right.
807
01:00:40,852 --> 01:00:44,487
This is one of the greatest... the
band's greatest tours ever in history.
808
01:00:44,489 --> 01:00:48,491
♪♪
809
01:00:48,493 --> 01:00:50,359
And people would boo.
810
01:00:50,361 --> 01:01:01,837
[boos mixed with applause]
811
01:01:01,839 --> 01:01:08,011
Every night in every place we'd play,
people would boo and throw stuff at you.
812
01:01:08,013 --> 01:01:11,580
You'd pack up your equipment
and you'd go on to the next place
813
01:01:11,582 --> 01:01:14,583
and people would boo you
and throw stuff at you.
814
01:01:14,585 --> 01:01:18,955
And you'd think, "What a strange
way to make a buck, you know."
815
01:01:18,957 --> 01:01:23,527
Robbie Robertson told me, he says,
"We started taping the shows to listen
816
01:01:23,529 --> 01:01:26,096
in the hotel room because we're
like, what are we missing here?
817
01:01:26,098 --> 01:01:29,031
Why-why-why are we-why
are they booing this?
818
01:01:29,033 --> 01:01:31,768
Because this sounds pretty good to me."
819
01:01:31,770 --> 01:01:35,938
But after a while, we got so
we were doing it really well,
820
01:01:35,940 --> 01:01:39,509
and there was an attitude
towards the music.
821
01:01:39,511 --> 01:01:46,817
And uh, a violence and a dynamic and something
that you just didn't hear anywhere else.
822
01:01:46,819 --> 01:01:52,922
And as that grew, I started
to think, which is pretty bold,
823
01:01:52,924 --> 01:01:55,725
we're right, and the world is wrong.
824
01:01:55,727 --> 01:01:58,627
♪ [The Band: Cripple Creek] ♪
825
01:01:58,629 --> 01:02:00,897
♪ That's when that
little love of mine ♪
826
01:02:00,899 --> 01:02:04,734
♪ Dips her donut in my tea ♪
827
01:02:04,736 --> 01:02:08,038
♪ Up on Cripple
Creek she sends me ♪
828
01:02:08,040 --> 01:02:11,574
♪ If I spring a
leak, she mends me ♪
829
01:02:11,576 --> 01:02:14,911
♪ I don't have to
speak; she defends me ♪
830
01:02:14,913 --> 01:02:21,752
♪ A drunkard's dream if
I ever did see one. ♪
831
01:02:21,754 --> 01:02:27,457
The entire industry got right back
to song-writing and Robbie Robertson,
832
01:02:27,459 --> 01:02:31,460
one of the great song writers of
all time, had effectuated that change
833
01:02:31,462 --> 01:02:35,132
by his own sensibility
and the band's sensibility.
834
01:02:35,134 --> 01:02:38,935
♪♪
835
01:02:38,937 --> 01:02:41,804
It seems like at a time when everything
was psychedelic and all this stuff,
836
01:02:41,806 --> 01:02:46,842
then The Band came out and they kind
of brought everything back to earth.
837
01:02:46,844 --> 01:02:49,413
I mean, Clapton wanted to be in The Band.
838
01:02:49,415 --> 01:02:51,080
And George Harrison
wanted to be in The Band.
839
01:02:51,082 --> 01:02:52,684
Everybody wanted to be in The Band.
840
01:02:57,922 --> 01:03:02,893
They became instant classics, and
they were milestones in American music,
841
01:03:02,895 --> 01:03:04,630
because it was a new standard.
842
01:03:07,198 --> 01:03:11,868
We wanted it to be more than just a
concert, we wanted it to be a celebration.
843
01:03:11,870 --> 01:03:14,103
He said that The Band is
gonna give its last performance
844
01:03:14,105 --> 01:03:17,007
and they're gonna have all these guests.
845
01:03:17,009 --> 01:03:18,841
Everyone from Van Morrison and Muddy Waters
846
01:03:18,843 --> 01:03:23,078
to Joni Mitchell, Neil Young,
you know, Ronnie Hawkins.
847
01:03:23,080 --> 01:03:29,219
I said, "Well, forget it." I said,
"This has somehow gotta be recorded."
848
01:03:29,221 --> 01:03:34,924
♪ The night they
drove Old Dixie down ♪
849
01:03:34,926 --> 01:03:37,761
♪ And all the people
were singing, they went ♪
850
01:03:37,763 --> 01:03:41,230
♪ Nah nah nah nah nah ♪
851
01:03:41,232 --> 01:03:43,766
Listen to the lyrics of The
Night They Drove Old Dixie Down
852
01:03:43,768 --> 01:03:45,701
over and over again and
still find something new.
853
01:03:45,703 --> 01:03:49,772
It's still, when you hear their
music, it's not of the past.
854
01:03:49,774 --> 01:03:51,177
It's of the present.
855
01:03:57,082 --> 01:04:01,153
[cheering]
856
01:04:12,196 --> 01:04:18,234
[hum of the city]
857
01:04:18,236 --> 01:04:22,638
My name is B. Mitchell Reid and I'm
talking here with Jesse Ed Davis.
858
01:04:22,640 --> 01:04:24,641
How'd you pick up a guitar?
859
01:04:24,643 --> 01:04:26,942
Jimmy Reed and Elvis Presley came on.
860
01:04:26,944 --> 01:04:28,545
That really did it for me.
861
01:04:28,547 --> 01:04:38,587
♪♪
862
01:04:38,589 --> 01:04:44,928
♪♪
863
01:04:44,930 --> 01:04:49,702
I can't say enough about
how valuable Jesse Davis was.
864
01:04:53,672 --> 01:05:00,143
He had a special touch, special sound for
the blues, which I love the way he played.
865
01:05:00,145 --> 01:05:03,846
When I listen to his solo to
this day I hear every note.
866
01:05:03,848 --> 01:05:07,116
But with Jesse Ed you always felt
like there was more in his back pocket.
867
01:05:07,118 --> 01:05:10,587
You never felt like you
got everything he had.
868
01:05:10,589 --> 01:05:19,862
♪♪
869
01:05:19,864 --> 01:05:24,100
I particularly fell in love with Jesse
Edwin Davis because he was with Taj Mahal,
870
01:05:24,102 --> 01:05:28,605
and Taj's album is what
spurred me to rock more.
871
01:05:28,607 --> 01:05:30,140
That-that touched something inside of me.
872
01:05:30,142 --> 01:05:36,212
♪♪
873
01:05:36,214 --> 01:05:40,583
So we're playing live
at the Whisky a Go Go.
874
01:05:40,585 --> 01:05:43,219
I usually played my
harmonica with my eyes closed.
875
01:05:43,221 --> 01:05:46,723
And I happened to open them up in the
middle and looked down on the floor
876
01:05:46,725 --> 01:05:53,996
and there's Mick Jagger dancing; there's Brian
Jones dancing; there is Keith Richards dancing.
877
01:05:53,998 --> 01:05:55,864
And it was just one of the best times.
878
01:05:55,866 --> 01:05:57,902
It was just... it
couldn't have been better.
879
01:06:06,611 --> 01:06:13,049
And somewhere along the last part of November,
eight tickets came to our manager's office.
880
01:06:13,051 --> 01:06:16,752
First-class round trip
tickets on BOAC to London.
881
01:06:16,754 --> 01:06:19,656
And to be asked to the Rolling Stones.
882
01:06:19,658 --> 01:06:20,824
The rest is history.
883
01:06:20,826 --> 01:06:24,928
♪♪
884
01:06:24,930 --> 01:06:28,732
I don't think Taj was selling
a lot of records at that point,
885
01:06:28,734 --> 01:06:32,002
but then they went to England
and did the Rock and Roll Circus.
886
01:06:32,004 --> 01:06:42,379
♪♪
887
01:06:42,381 --> 01:06:45,214
And Jesse met John Lennon.
888
01:06:45,216 --> 01:06:48,118
And they hit it off
like long lost brothers.
889
01:06:48,120 --> 01:06:50,654
And so of course John just
fell in love with this guy.
890
01:06:50,656 --> 01:06:55,257
♪♪
891
01:06:55,259 --> 01:06:59,862
When Jesse went over and they
found out that he was Native,
892
01:06:59,864 --> 01:07:03,833
they were so enthralled with
that, they took to him right away.
893
01:07:03,835 --> 01:07:09,105
I gotta commend him for being bold enough to
come right out and being proud of his culture
894
01:07:09,107 --> 01:07:11,940
and proud of his blood line.
895
01:07:11,942 --> 01:07:14,810
Jesse had a bit of exotic about him too.
896
01:07:14,812 --> 01:07:24,087
He was Native American, he was a cool dresser,
and he played great, tight, dynamic blues.
897
01:07:24,089 --> 01:07:29,158
And the British rock aristocracy,
they loved this, you know.
898
01:07:29,160 --> 01:07:32,261
This is something they can't get naturally.
899
01:07:32,263 --> 01:07:33,996
They have to import it.
900
01:07:33,998 --> 01:07:37,132
So that's why Jesse
became such a go-to guy.
901
01:07:37,134 --> 01:07:39,902
John Lennon loved Jesse Ed over the moon.
902
01:07:39,904 --> 01:07:43,973
He thought he was one of the greatest
guitar players he's ever heard.
903
01:07:43,975 --> 01:07:46,408
That's how I got into
the Bangladesh concert.
904
01:07:46,410 --> 01:07:51,413
About two days before the concert,
Eric Clapton came down really sick
905
01:07:51,415 --> 01:07:54,484
and George called me up and
said, "Look, will you play?"
906
01:07:54,486 --> 01:07:56,752
And of course I said yes.
907
01:07:56,754 --> 01:07:58,087
I just jumped at the chance.
908
01:07:58,089 --> 01:07:59,855
This is Jesse Ed Davis.
909
01:07:59,857 --> 01:08:03,259
[applause]
910
01:08:03,261 --> 01:08:05,127
Everybody wanted to use him at that point.
911
01:08:05,129 --> 01:08:09,499
Here he is with the Beatles,
Clapton, you know uh, the biggest,
912
01:08:09,501 --> 01:08:13,402
most important musicians in
the world, they all wanted him.
913
01:08:13,404 --> 01:08:17,774
When I was making my first record I thought,
you know, like I get Jesse Ed to play,
914
01:08:17,776 --> 01:08:22,311
and I called him and he listened to
the song I had in mind for him to play
915
01:08:22,313 --> 01:08:25,414
and he said, "I don't really
hear myself playing on this.
916
01:08:25,416 --> 01:08:27,350
You got anything else?"
917
01:08:27,352 --> 01:08:33,323
I said, "Yeah, well, okay,
cue up that other song."
918
01:08:33,325 --> 01:08:37,927
And uh, and that other song was the song
that he wound up playing on Doctor my Eyes.
919
01:08:37,929 --> 01:08:41,498
He played it once. He listened
to it for a minute and he said,
920
01:08:41,500 --> 01:08:43,999
"Okay, I can play this.
This. I can play on this."
921
01:08:44,001 --> 01:08:50,073
And he says, "Just cue it up and I..."
he goes out and he's tuning his guitar.
922
01:08:50,075 --> 01:08:51,708
I mean, I wound up just
recording everything.
923
01:08:51,710 --> 01:08:57,480
I said, "You better record everything."
So he tunes up as he's getting to the solo
924
01:08:57,482 --> 01:08:59,915
and he says, "OK, that's the solo? OK."
925
01:08:59,917 --> 01:09:04,119
And he didn't do the whole length of it
or anything like that, he's like, "OK."
926
01:09:04,121 --> 01:09:06,455
And he played this solo once.
927
01:09:06,457 --> 01:09:16,466
♪ [solo from Doctor, My Eyes] ♪
928
01:09:16,468 --> 01:09:22,472
My record comes out and he's shocked to find
out that it's a hit; it's like a top ten hit.
929
01:09:22,474 --> 01:09:27,142
Like, he's all over the place; everybody's
saying, "Who is that guitar player?"
930
01:09:27,144 --> 01:09:31,513
And people still want to play
that solo if they play that song.
931
01:09:31,515 --> 01:09:38,156
♪ Doctor, my Eyes
Cannot see the sky ♪
932
01:09:44,996 --> 01:09:49,164
He was hanging out with some very
important people, big rock 'n' roll people,
933
01:09:49,166 --> 01:09:54,570
who were very into heroin.
And they just did it.
934
01:09:54,572 --> 01:09:57,606
- It was like, "Want to try some of this?"
- "Sure."
935
01:09:57,608 --> 01:10:02,445
The Jesse Ed that I knew before he left
on the, uh, Rod Stewart and Faces tour
936
01:10:02,447 --> 01:10:04,750
was not the Jesse that came home.
937
01:10:06,885 --> 01:10:11,023
He came back from that tour a
junkie, and he wasn't before.
938
01:10:13,358 --> 01:10:19,061
He went and checked into yet another
rehab for Indian people: the Eagle Lodge.
939
01:10:19,063 --> 01:10:21,364
And by then I was done.
940
01:10:21,366 --> 01:10:26,401
I'm, like, "Show me a year; I want to see that
one year chip or don't bother coming home."
941
01:10:26,403 --> 01:10:31,074
In 1985 I was speaking at Cal State Long
Beach and Jesse was in a halfway house,
942
01:10:31,076 --> 01:10:33,442
the Eagle Lodge Halfway House in Long Beach
943
01:10:33,444 --> 01:10:37,146
and so that whole crew from that
halfway house came to my speaking thing.
944
01:10:37,148 --> 01:10:41,551
And then Jesse introduced himself and
the first thing he did was he me his name
945
01:10:41,553 --> 01:10:45,120
and the second thing he said to me
was he could make music from my words.
946
01:10:45,122 --> 01:10:48,423
See, and I had been looking for
two years for somebody to do that.
947
01:10:48,425 --> 01:10:50,159
♪ Grafitti Man's got
something to say ♪
948
01:10:50,161 --> 01:10:52,594
♪ ♪
949
01:10:52,596 --> 01:10:54,030
♪ Message in a scrawl ♪
950
01:10:54,032 --> 01:10:55,397
♪ Message on the wall ♪
951
01:10:55,399 --> 01:10:57,967
♪ Put on blinders! ♪
952
01:10:57,969 --> 01:11:04,574
Grafitti Man with John
Trudell; I thought this was so original
953
01:11:04,576 --> 01:11:11,213
and there was something just beautiful
about what they were doing together.
954
01:11:11,215 --> 01:11:17,486
And Bob Dylan got a copy of it and he
did this interview with Rolling Stone
955
01:11:17,488 --> 01:11:19,655
and he said it was the
best album of the year.
956
01:11:19,657 --> 01:11:22,193
He's the one that got attention to us.
957
01:11:24,996 --> 01:11:28,563
This is '85 when they did the first
record and he was completely sober
958
01:11:28,565 --> 01:11:31,401
the entire time he was doing it.
959
01:11:31,403 --> 01:11:35,137
I know he was because I'm the Sobriety
Sargent-at-Arms, and so is John.
960
01:11:35,139 --> 01:11:37,440
[laughs]
961
01:11:37,442 --> 01:11:41,343
When he showed up in my life,
ex-drug-addict; he's fightin' a habit
962
01:11:41,345 --> 01:11:44,446
and I'm an ex-kicked out
militant political activist.
963
01:11:44,448 --> 01:11:46,682
You know, there's no
demographic for us. Fuck.
964
01:11:46,684 --> 01:11:48,051
[laugh]
965
01:11:48,053 --> 01:11:50,052
I mean in reality who's gonna take us on?
966
01:11:50,054 --> 01:11:51,687
Because there's no demographic for that.
967
01:11:51,689 --> 01:11:58,962
♪♪
968
01:11:58,964 --> 01:12:04,499
I'm real proud to be playing with John
Trudell and I'm real proud to be an Indian.
969
01:12:04,501 --> 01:12:10,505
And this is, uh, something I hope that
doesn't go by you, what we're trying to do.
970
01:12:10,507 --> 01:12:14,410
♪♪
971
01:12:14,412 --> 01:12:20,383
What Jesse did was he brought
me music, he gave me a band;
972
01:12:20,385 --> 01:12:22,618
he dressed me up as a rock 'n' roller.
973
01:12:22,620 --> 01:12:27,089
He put me on stage, helped me learn how
to be on stage, and then he checked out.
974
01:12:27,091 --> 01:12:28,591
(chuckles) That's what Jesse did.
975
01:12:28,593 --> 01:12:30,360
I mean that's the way I look at it.
976
01:12:30,362 --> 01:12:34,329
♪♪
977
01:12:34,331 --> 01:12:38,401
Now here's a guy who can
play guitar; can make you cry
978
01:12:38,403 --> 01:12:42,038
and make you laugh and make you think.
979
01:12:42,040 --> 01:12:48,677
Yet he was self-medicating himself to a
degree; he must have been in so much pain
980
01:12:48,679 --> 01:12:52,147
that he was taking so much medicine
that it eventually killed him.
981
01:12:52,149 --> 01:12:55,785
And they found him dead on the floor of
the laundry room of his apartment building
982
01:12:55,787 --> 01:12:58,454
in Culver City with a needle in his arm.
983
01:12:58,456 --> 01:13:01,490
So the demons came back.
984
01:13:01,492 --> 01:13:04,494
If he had been cleaned
up, something got him back.
985
01:13:04,496 --> 01:13:08,263
It broke my heart.
986
01:13:08,265 --> 01:13:13,468
We thought our contribution
was really very positive.
987
01:13:13,470 --> 01:13:18,540
We walked the land, played
the music that we loved.
988
01:13:18,542 --> 01:13:23,781
And, uh, some of us lived
to talk about it. (chuckle)
989
01:13:28,653 --> 01:13:35,624
♪ [Doctor, My Eyes solo] ♪
990
01:13:35,626 --> 01:13:38,326
There's nobody who plays like him.
991
01:13:38,328 --> 01:13:41,463
He's not gone; he is everywhere.
992
01:13:41,465 --> 01:13:45,601
I can't put a radio on, I can't go to
the market... anywhere-he's everywhere.
993
01:13:45,603 --> 01:13:50,440
♪♪
994
01:13:50,442 --> 01:13:55,177
I want that music to continue to bring
joy and blow people's minds always,
995
01:13:55,179 --> 01:13:57,547
and it always will.
996
01:13:57,549 --> 01:14:03,785
♪ Doctor, my eyes
Cannot see the sky ♪
997
01:14:03,787 --> 01:14:11,295
♪ Is this the prize For having
learned how not to cry? ♪
998
01:14:19,737 --> 01:14:22,472
That's why Pat and Lolly Vegas
ask you, Do you want to dance?
999
01:14:22,474 --> 01:14:30,646
♪♪
1000
01:14:30,648 --> 01:14:34,249
♪ Do you wanna dance
and hold my hand? ♪
1001
01:14:34,251 --> 01:14:36,785
♪ Tell me I'm your lovin' man ♪
1002
01:14:36,787 --> 01:14:41,257
♪ Oh baby, do you wanna dance? ♪
1003
01:14:41,259 --> 01:14:42,825
My grandfather had a guitar.
1004
01:14:42,827 --> 01:14:45,561
He set it above the armoire,
you know, and he said,
1005
01:14:45,563 --> 01:14:47,829
"When you can reach that
guitar you can have it."
1006
01:14:47,831 --> 01:14:50,732
And, uh-so I stood on a
chair and took it. (laugh)
1007
01:14:50,734 --> 01:14:53,735
♪ Do you wanna dance? ♪
1008
01:14:53,737 --> 01:14:55,437
I just got the bug, you know.
1009
01:14:55,439 --> 01:14:57,772
Once I got it, that was it; it was over.
1010
01:14:57,774 --> 01:15:00,375
That's all I wanted to do, you know.
1011
01:15:00,377 --> 01:15:03,812
My brother and I, we said we're
either gonna go to New York or L.A.
1012
01:15:03,814 --> 01:15:07,383
to pursue the music, to
pursue the dream, you know?
1013
01:15:07,385 --> 01:15:09,552
And, uh, we flipped a
coin; it came out L.A.
1014
01:15:09,554 --> 01:15:15,324
♪♪
1015
01:15:15,326 --> 01:15:18,628
Was it hard? Like, when you
guys first came to Hollywood,
1016
01:15:18,630 --> 01:15:20,762
two guys from northern
California; you know, dark skin.
1017
01:15:20,764 --> 01:15:23,699
I know it must have been hard
for you to get jobs and shit so.
1018
01:15:23,701 --> 01:15:25,133
Yeah, 'cause they weren't hiring.
1019
01:15:25,135 --> 01:15:29,871
The Sunset Strip and Hollywood
wasn't hiring anybody that was ethnic.
1020
01:15:29,873 --> 01:15:34,310
Like black or brown. You
had to be strictly white.
1021
01:15:34,312 --> 01:15:40,449
Announcer: Now? Another Gazzarri hotspot!
Hollywood A Go-Go on the Sunset Strip!
1022
01:15:40,451 --> 01:15:44,853
These are the lucky ones; they got
inside. Not everyone was so fortunate.
1023
01:15:44,855 --> 01:15:48,391
We went and played at Gazzarri's on
the Strip. It used to be a block, two blocks
1024
01:15:48,393 --> 01:15:51,826
down the street waiting to get
in every night, seven days a week.
1025
01:15:51,828 --> 01:15:53,795
Did they have all sorts of
different bands rotating out?
1026
01:15:53,797 --> 01:15:56,632
No, just one band. Headlining Vegas.
1027
01:15:56,634 --> 01:16:02,704
♪ Oh, baby! Do
you wanna dance? ♪
1028
01:16:02,706 --> 01:16:06,542
We were wearing really nice
mohair suits with nice black shoes.
1029
01:16:06,544 --> 01:16:08,910
♪ Do you, do you, do
you wanna dance? ♪
1030
01:16:08,912 --> 01:16:12,847
And we did our Cajun set
and we wore bib overalls.
1031
01:16:12,849 --> 01:16:17,253
I had to keep changing so I had to do
something that we could actually hold onto
1032
01:16:17,255 --> 01:16:19,821
and it would be ours.
1033
01:16:19,823 --> 01:16:23,659
Jimi was one of the people
that supported us the most.
1034
01:16:23,661 --> 01:16:28,763
He's the one that told us in the very
beginning, "Do the Indian thing, man."
1035
01:16:28,765 --> 01:16:32,701
To see them on Midnight Special
doing Come And Get Your Love
1036
01:16:32,703 --> 01:16:35,237
in full regalia
1037
01:16:35,239 --> 01:16:39,408
doing the drum chants before they would
go into one of their hit records...
1038
01:16:39,410 --> 01:16:42,611
That was actually-that was pretty heavy.
1039
01:16:42,613 --> 01:16:47,749
♪ [chanting] ♪
1040
01:16:47,751 --> 01:16:50,018
Pat: We used to mic the floor, you know.
1041
01:16:50,020 --> 01:16:53,955
So when we came out, the stomping
sounded like a herd of buffalo coming.
1042
01:16:53,957 --> 01:16:55,691
You know what I mean?
It really sounded loud.
1043
01:16:55,693 --> 01:16:58,927
♪♪
1044
01:16:58,929 --> 01:17:04,734
There we were, uh, four young Native Americans
doing these chants, these primitive chants
1045
01:17:04,736 --> 01:17:07,436
and then all of a sudden
going to this rock 'n' roll.
1046
01:17:07,438 --> 01:17:10,806
And then put the two together
and the people would just say,
1047
01:17:10,808 --> 01:17:13,642
"Wow, what's going on?
What's going on here?"
1048
01:17:13,644 --> 01:17:19,882
[song changes to pop tune]
1049
01:17:19,884 --> 01:17:30,726
♪ Hell, hell, what's the
matter with your head? ♪
1050
01:17:30,728 --> 01:17:32,160
They couldn't believe it.
1051
01:17:32,162 --> 01:17:36,832
Here they are, these four Indians,
with you know, garb and moccasins
1052
01:17:36,834 --> 01:17:40,902
and all the things that they've seen
in film actually playing rock, you know.
1053
01:17:40,904 --> 01:17:45,341
And our album came out and it
just took off and it went crazy.
1054
01:17:45,343 --> 01:17:49,744
You know Come And Get Your Love,
it's in Guardians of the Galaxy.
1055
01:17:49,746 --> 01:17:57,352
♪ Hell, hell what the
matter with your head yeah ♪
1056
01:17:57,354 --> 01:18:02,825
When the hero is marching through the
alien landscape knocking off monsters
1057
01:18:02,827 --> 01:18:05,660
and all this stuff, he's
strutting to Redbone.
1058
01:18:05,662 --> 01:18:11,334
♪♪
1059
01:18:11,336 --> 01:18:14,337
There's a real conqueror's
vibe to that song.
1060
01:18:14,339 --> 01:18:17,839
It's a great track; it's a great
song and they were a great band.
1061
01:18:17,841 --> 01:18:19,508
And they're great artists, you know.
1062
01:18:19,510 --> 01:18:28,950
Uh, it's not easy to come up with a really
accessible, funky, heartfelt hit single;
1063
01:18:28,952 --> 01:18:31,353
that's not an easy thing
to do and they did it.
1064
01:18:31,355 --> 01:18:39,594
♪ Come and get your love
Come and get your love ♪
1065
01:18:39,596 --> 01:18:45,500
You can be explicitly political
and make an important point,
1066
01:18:45,502 --> 01:18:49,105
but ultimately getting
through is the best revenge.
1067
01:18:49,107 --> 01:18:52,107
You want to do it with class;
you want to do it with dignity.
1068
01:18:52,109 --> 01:18:54,008
And Redbone did that.
1069
01:18:54,010 --> 01:18:56,945
They had the class; they had
the dignity; they had the hooks.
1070
01:18:56,947 --> 01:18:58,047
And they got through.
1071
01:18:58,049 --> 01:18:59,615
So they win.
1072
01:18:59,617 --> 01:19:01,851
♪♪
1073
01:19:01,853 --> 01:19:06,057
[cheers]
1074
01:19:17,635 --> 01:19:21,102
I come from, uh, East Los Angeles,
California, living in the barrios.
1075
01:19:21,104 --> 01:19:22,871
I lived in the barrios. You did? Where?
1076
01:19:22,873 --> 01:19:24,507
I was in east L.A. on Geraghty.
1077
01:19:24,509 --> 01:19:25,775
Dude, I lived in Boyle Heights-Dogtown.
1078
01:19:25,777 --> 01:19:26,709
I was in Geraghty, dude.
1079
01:19:26,711 --> 01:19:27,910
Wow!
1080
01:19:27,912 --> 01:19:29,414
Yes, East L.A. Represent, Dude.
1081
01:19:32,617 --> 01:19:35,750
Bass line off of your song it
mirrors, uh, the song we had, uh,
1082
01:19:35,752 --> 01:19:37,919
called Let's Get It
Started that we did in 2003.
1083
01:19:37,921 --> 01:19:39,655
Yeah, I loved that.
1084
01:19:39,657 --> 01:19:41,990
Yeah, it's got that-it's got that
haunting, like, walking, like,
1085
01:19:41,992 --> 01:19:44,526
♪ Domp, domp, domp, domp, domp, domp,
domp, domp, domp, ♪ Ghost Spirit.
1086
01:19:44,528 --> 01:19:55,704
♪♪
1087
01:19:55,706 --> 01:19:57,573
You got twenty-five thousand
people in an audience
1088
01:19:57,575 --> 01:19:59,141
singing Let's Get It Started,
1089
01:19:59,143 --> 01:20:02,647
dancing to that bass line
and people are going bananas.
1090
01:20:05,715 --> 01:20:08,953
The Black Eyed Peas sold sixty
million records around the world.
1091
01:20:11,922 --> 01:20:16,959
I grew up understanding my Mexican
roots more than my Native roots.
1092
01:20:16,961 --> 01:20:19,962
There has to be something that sparks
you and some people will be, like,
1093
01:20:19,964 --> 01:20:25,200
"Well, it was my dad or my mom." But
honestly for me it was my grandma.
1094
01:20:25,202 --> 01:20:28,169
When I went to my
grandmother as I got older,
1095
01:20:28,171 --> 01:20:32,007
she would start breaking
out the old old photo albums.
1096
01:20:32,009 --> 01:20:37,045
By bringing me into her
culture, which was, uh, Shoshone,
1097
01:20:37,047 --> 01:20:41,717
it set me into understanding
where I come from.
1098
01:20:41,719 --> 01:20:43,418
It started making sense to him.
1099
01:20:43,420 --> 01:20:48,022
Like, "Why do I feel this way? Why do I hear
things this way? Why do I dance this way?
1100
01:20:48,024 --> 01:20:52,494
And can fit these rhythms in
that are neither black nor white.
1101
01:20:52,496 --> 01:20:56,130
I started realizing how
important and how beautiful
1102
01:20:56,132 --> 01:20:58,566
being Shoshone and being Mexican were.
1103
01:20:58,568 --> 01:21:11,847
♪ [mix of new piece and
Come and Get your Love] ♪
1104
01:21:11,849 --> 01:21:15,750
When you hear something that you
sparked off and inspired so many people
1105
01:21:15,752 --> 01:21:18,587
and you weren't aware of that
and it just takes you by surprise-
1106
01:21:18,589 --> 01:21:20,155
Yeah. Yeah. It was inspiring.
1107
01:21:20,157 --> 01:21:21,789
You know, I-I want to do another one.
1108
01:21:21,791 --> 01:21:24,259
[laughter]
1109
01:21:24,261 --> 01:21:27,562
You know, I love that you and
I come from the same background.
1110
01:21:27,564 --> 01:21:33,102
Our stories are similar and it's good to
see positive brothers trying to inspire.
1111
01:21:33,104 --> 01:21:37,172
That just lifts me up; I'm off
the ground right now, you know.
1112
01:21:37,174 --> 01:21:39,107
That's a beautiful thing for me.
1113
01:21:39,109 --> 01:21:42,414
♪♪
1114
01:21:49,019 --> 01:21:55,124
♪ [heavy metal] ♪
1115
01:21:55,126 --> 01:22:02,830
♪ [Motley Crue's
Girls, Girls, Girls!] ♪
1116
01:22:02,832 --> 01:22:13,008
♪♪
1117
01:22:13,010 --> 01:22:16,381
Rock 'n' roll! Heavy metal!
Party! Rock's bitchin!
1118
01:22:20,017 --> 01:22:22,351
I moved to L.A. in 1985.
1119
01:22:22,353 --> 01:22:26,655
The Sunset Strip back then was
packed and crazy every night.
1120
01:22:26,657 --> 01:22:31,360
All the girls had like no clothes
on; all the guys had crazy hair.
1121
01:22:31,362 --> 01:22:35,597
You'd be in front of the Roxy
and you'd see Axl, Slash, Matt Sorum,
1122
01:22:35,599 --> 01:22:39,301
you'd see all these guys who were pretty
much gonna be the future of rock 'n' roll,
1123
01:22:39,303 --> 01:22:42,370
I mean everybody was there.
1124
01:22:42,372 --> 01:22:46,275
I wanted to be a rock star; I didn't
want to be like an "Indian rock star"
1125
01:22:46,277 --> 01:22:48,110
I wanted just to be a rock star.
1126
01:22:48,112 --> 01:22:51,146
I was homeless, I was broke,
but I knew I was going to have to
1127
01:22:51,148 --> 01:22:54,182
come up with some kind of of
identity if I was going to make it.
1128
01:22:54,184 --> 01:22:58,686
In L.A., I really didn't fit in because
I wasn't black and I wasn't white.
1129
01:22:58,688 --> 01:23:01,923
So I was a rock guy but I
really loved black music.
1130
01:23:01,925 --> 01:23:05,727
I was playing with George
Clinton and Bootsy Collins
1131
01:23:05,729 --> 01:23:08,163
and everyone in town thought I
was this super funk guitar player.
1132
01:23:08,165 --> 01:23:11,366
But the truth is they wouldn't even let
me play any funk on their records at all;
1133
01:23:11,368 --> 01:23:13,701
they'd only let me play rock.
1134
01:23:13,703 --> 01:23:16,070
But I'd watch them and I'd learn,
because those guys could play funk
1135
01:23:16,072 --> 01:23:19,374
like on a whole other level.
1136
01:23:19,376 --> 01:23:22,311
Then I'd get around my white
friends and I'd play some funk
1137
01:23:22,313 --> 01:23:25,179
and then my funk would
blow their funk away, right,
1138
01:23:25,181 --> 01:23:27,650
so to them they all
thought I was this funk guy.
1139
01:23:27,652 --> 01:23:30,753
All of the sudden I'm at the Philadelphia
Spectrum playing in front of
1140
01:23:30,755 --> 01:23:33,955
25, 000 people with Rod Stewart rupping
a solo on the song Dynamite.
1141
01:23:33,957 --> 01:23:40,928
♪♪
1142
01:23:40,930 --> 01:23:45,003
I mean this whole thing was madness to me.
I mean, my last band was my high school band.
1143
01:23:51,876 --> 01:23:54,709
Stevie Salas: bad rock
'n' roller; rock star.
1144
01:23:54,711 --> 01:23:58,115
You got to have balls and that's
what it takes for rock 'n' roll.
1145
01:24:10,795 --> 01:24:14,829
So I'm on a private jet; I'm making
tons of money and I have all these women,
1146
01:24:14,831 --> 01:24:18,232
but pretty soon I don't
know who I am anymore.
1147
01:24:18,234 --> 01:24:22,937
Randy Castillo, he befriended me
knowing I was a Native American
1148
01:24:22,939 --> 01:24:26,374
and he met me right when I was
finishing the Rod Stewart tour.
1149
01:24:26,376 --> 01:24:31,413
I was going deeper and deeper into alcohol
and partying and which girl I could be with
1150
01:24:31,415 --> 01:24:35,017
and how much money I could
make or house I could buy,
1151
01:24:35,019 --> 01:24:37,985
and he could tell I was losing my mind.
1152
01:24:37,987 --> 01:24:41,255
He said to me, "I'm going
to take you to New Mexico".
1153
01:24:41,257 --> 01:24:48,996
[crickets]
1154
01:24:48,998 --> 01:24:59,040
♪♪
1155
01:24:59,042 --> 01:25:12,521
♪♪
1156
01:25:12,523 --> 01:25:16,057
I'm taking John Trudell with me up to Taos.
1157
01:25:16,059 --> 01:25:22,231
We want to get together and have a little bit of
a talk about our departed friend Randy Castillo.
1158
01:25:22,233 --> 01:25:23,766
Mr. Randy Castillo!
1159
01:25:23,768 --> 01:25:28,236
♪ [drum solo] ♪
1160
01:25:28,238 --> 01:25:29,404
Randy Castillo.
1161
01:25:29,406 --> 01:25:31,272
Randy Castillo from New Mexico.
1162
01:25:31,274 --> 01:25:33,909
He'd be like playing his drums. I
remember he always did this thing
1163
01:25:33,911 --> 01:25:35,910
where he hit the kick
drum: boom, boom, boom.
1164
01:25:35,912 --> 01:25:39,248
Mega-star.
1165
01:25:39,250 --> 01:25:40,481
Mega-star.
1166
01:25:40,483 --> 01:25:41,784
Cover of every magazine.
1167
01:25:41,786 --> 01:25:43,418
♪ [song ends] ♪
1168
01:25:43,420 --> 01:25:45,957
Mr. Randy Castillo!
1169
01:25:50,394 --> 01:25:58,299
♪♪
1170
01:25:58,301 --> 01:26:02,337
I was in Los Angeles and spent my
time then going fucking nuts, right?
1171
01:26:02,339 --> 01:26:06,542
You know, just every actress I could
see, every Playboy bunny I could get;
1172
01:26:06,544 --> 01:26:09,110
every cocktail I could drink.
1173
01:26:09,112 --> 01:26:12,213
Me and Randy started becoming friends
and he says, "You're pretty fucked up."
1174
01:26:12,215 --> 01:26:14,449
He goes, "I need to take
you to Indian country."
1175
01:26:14,451 --> 01:26:15,918
Right.
1176
01:26:15,920 --> 01:26:17,451
I didn't really ever
have heard that phrase.
1177
01:26:17,453 --> 01:26:19,624
Indian country? He brought me here.
1178
01:26:29,934 --> 01:26:32,601
The secret to Indian country
is when you're losing your mind
1179
01:26:32,603 --> 01:26:36,003
only lose the parts that need losing.
1180
01:26:36,005 --> 01:26:37,573
- Right it is. I'll tell you.
- Right.
1181
01:26:37,575 --> 01:26:44,512
♪♪
1182
01:26:44,514 --> 01:26:49,618
The last thing you wanted to be when
you were my great-great-grandfather
1183
01:26:49,620 --> 01:26:54,589
was an Indian because only bad
things were happening to Indians.
1184
01:26:54,591 --> 01:26:59,594
The Mexicans could chase the Apache
into America without permission...
1185
01:26:59,596 --> 01:27:03,065
if they they were in
pursuit of killing Apache.
1186
01:27:03,067 --> 01:27:05,566
The Americans could cross
into Mexico without permission
1187
01:27:05,568 --> 01:27:09,006
if they were chasing
Apache and killing Apache.
1188
01:27:12,910 --> 01:27:15,343
It depended where you were at in the land.
1189
01:27:15,345 --> 01:27:19,513
Some places they would rather
be an Indian than a Mexican.
1190
01:27:19,515 --> 01:27:23,418
And in some places they'd rather
be a Mexican than an Indian.
1191
01:27:23,420 --> 01:27:25,387
All right?
1192
01:27:25,389 --> 01:27:28,222
Uh, and in some places, they didn't
want to be either but they were
1193
01:27:28,224 --> 01:27:30,762
so some of them would be
calling themselves Hispanic.
1194
01:27:34,398 --> 01:27:42,204
Randy Castillo was confident and loved being an
Indian, heads up loud and proud and representing,
1195
01:27:42,206 --> 01:27:46,642
He was just such a beautiful man and a
great ambassador for the American Indians.
1196
01:27:46,644 --> 01:27:50,544
He was just such a great
drummer, number one.
1197
01:27:50,546 --> 01:27:54,982
And he was an amazing showman.
1198
01:27:54,984 --> 01:28:00,521
Randy's roots, his Native American roots,
his New Mexican roots, made him stand out.
1199
01:28:00,523 --> 01:28:03,659
He was like a spirit; that's what
you sensed coming into the room.
1200
01:28:03,661 --> 01:28:06,294
You know, if you walked
into a room and he was there
1201
01:28:06,296 --> 01:28:08,496
and even if you didn't see
him, you knew he was there.
1202
01:28:08,498 --> 01:28:12,700
[cheers]
1203
01:28:12,702 --> 01:28:17,405
He was just out there and he was putting
it out there and he was like a magnet.
1204
01:28:17,407 --> 01:28:21,276
I mean, he knew exactly who he
was, exactly who he was gonna be.
1205
01:28:21,278 --> 01:28:23,244
We were really close.
1206
01:28:23,246 --> 01:28:26,515
When we had a day off we'd spend
it together; we'd go to a nightclub.
1207
01:28:26,517 --> 01:28:28,616
He rapidly became one of my best friends.
1208
01:28:28,618 --> 01:28:29,484
[chanting]
1209
01:28:29,486 --> 01:28:35,390
Ozzy! Ozzy! Ozzy!
1210
01:28:35,392 --> 01:28:39,227
Here's a song dedicated to Mr. Randy
Castillo, it's a number called Tattooed Dancer.
1211
01:28:39,229 --> 01:28:44,165
♪♪
1212
01:28:44,167 --> 01:28:50,304
Well, Randy had become one of the most
influential heavy metal drummers in the world,
1213
01:28:50,306 --> 01:28:52,207
uh, because of his work with Ozzy.
1214
01:28:52,209 --> 01:28:57,111
♪♪
1215
01:28:57,113 --> 01:29:04,418
And Ozzy always said he loved working
with indigenous people, Hispanic people.
1216
01:29:04,420 --> 01:29:08,690
It was like he had a connection with them
'cause he felt they had better rhythm.
1217
01:29:08,692 --> 01:29:12,160
And he always mentioned Randy
as being a direct connection
1218
01:29:12,162 --> 01:29:16,731
to that indigenous energy
and that rhythm that he loved.
1219
01:29:16,733 --> 01:29:22,536
♪ [indigenous singing] ♪
1220
01:29:22,538 --> 01:29:32,580
♪♪
1221
01:29:32,582 --> 01:29:39,253
♪♪
1222
01:29:39,255 --> 01:29:42,723
Oh say... my brothers.
1223
01:29:42,725 --> 01:29:43,725
How are you, man?
1224
01:29:43,727 --> 01:29:44,625
Good to see you.
1225
01:29:44,627 --> 01:29:46,194
How are you?
1226
01:29:46,196 --> 01:29:56,237
[singing and drumming]
1227
01:29:56,239 --> 01:30:01,276
[singing and drumming]
1228
01:30:01,278 --> 01:30:05,547
It was always in Randy's blood
because... being Apache you know,
1229
01:30:05,549 --> 01:30:09,217
but he took it to a different
level and went higher,
1230
01:30:09,219 --> 01:30:12,420
became one of the best
drummers in the world.
1231
01:30:12,422 --> 01:30:16,591
I know when he saw Benito's drums
he wanted a whole trap set like that.
1232
01:30:16,593 --> 01:30:18,493
You know.
1233
01:30:18,495 --> 01:30:21,195
And too bad we didn't get to
do that, you know, for him.
1234
01:30:21,197 --> 01:30:32,240
♪♪
1235
01:30:32,242 --> 01:30:37,712
He had a style that was
obviously influenced by his roots,
1236
01:30:37,714 --> 01:30:41,216
kind of Indian drumming thing
that was going underneath it;
1237
01:30:41,218 --> 01:30:43,685
he didn't drum like a normal person.
1238
01:30:43,687 --> 01:30:47,254
Normal people would just-you know,
they just play drums like this.
1239
01:30:47,256 --> 01:30:50,292
But there was this (makes crashing sound)
1240
01:30:50,294 --> 01:30:52,929
it was just this pounding thing
that was going through everything.
1241
01:31:03,107 --> 01:31:06,240
It was his heartbeat; Randy's
playing the heartbeat and that's it.
1242
01:31:06,242 --> 01:31:07,542
It's it; it's Indian country right there.
1243
01:31:07,544 --> 01:31:08,877
Bam!
1244
01:31:08,879 --> 01:31:14,883
♪♪
1245
01:31:14,885 --> 01:31:18,887
A lot of that funk, it's from
the earth; it's organic, you know.
1246
01:31:18,889 --> 01:31:23,758
It's-it comes from the war dances
and there's something tribal about it.
1247
01:31:23,760 --> 01:31:29,463
[crowd screaming]
1248
01:31:29,465 --> 01:31:30,832
It's very primal.
1249
01:31:30,834 --> 01:31:33,567
And that I always equate to his roots.
1250
01:31:33,569 --> 01:31:38,405
You know he had, uh, a grandmother
who was a curandero, a healer.
1251
01:31:38,407 --> 01:31:42,143
And he was very much in touch with
that kind of spiritual thinking
1252
01:31:42,145 --> 01:31:45,179
and his indigenous ancestry.
1253
01:31:45,181 --> 01:31:50,518
He transcended all of the civil stuff
that you see on a day-to-day level.
1254
01:31:50,520 --> 01:31:53,521
He sort of had this little
jump over where he had a path
1255
01:31:53,523 --> 01:31:57,526
that went back to that and he
was constantly tapping into that
1256
01:31:57,528 --> 01:32:00,698
and bringing that in through his
music, through the way he played.
1257
01:32:15,612 --> 01:32:19,181
And one day we were going somewhere
and I went to pick him up and he said,
1258
01:32:19,183 --> 01:32:21,883
"Hey, you know I found something over
here; I've got this little thing over here."
1259
01:32:21,885 --> 01:32:23,517
and I go, "What's that?"
1260
01:32:23,519 --> 01:32:25,853
And he goes, "Well,
it's like a little bump."
1261
01:32:25,855 --> 01:32:28,656
And I said, "Well, it's probably
you're picking at your, you know,
1262
01:32:28,658 --> 01:32:30,825
whiskers all the time or
whatever it is you're doing."
1263
01:32:30,827 --> 01:32:33,328
He goes, "No, it's underneath."
1264
01:32:33,330 --> 01:32:36,431
And I said, "Well, you know, I don't
know; maybe you should get it checked out."
1265
01:32:36,433 --> 01:32:41,203
And he sort of neglected it for
a while and... and one day he goes,
1266
01:32:41,205 --> 01:32:44,405
"Well, uh, I went to the
doctor about that today."
1267
01:32:44,407 --> 01:32:46,374
Then he said, uh, "I'm just gonna go home."
1268
01:32:46,376 --> 01:32:47,909
And I go, "What's going on?"
1269
01:32:47,911 --> 01:32:53,818
And he goes, "Well, um-uh, that thing
that I've got on my neck, it's cancer."
1270
01:32:56,987 --> 01:33:02,457
Just went from being this huge
personality to just this waif
1271
01:33:02,459 --> 01:33:04,926
of a memory of something that once was.
1272
01:33:04,928 --> 01:33:14,502
♪ [piano] ♪
1273
01:33:14,504 --> 01:33:22,310
[cheering]
1274
01:33:22,312 --> 01:33:27,682
I run into Hispanics, Native
Americans today that come up to me
1275
01:33:27,684 --> 01:33:31,919
and ask me about Randy Castillo, you know.
1276
01:33:31,921 --> 01:33:35,690
He's a celebrated hero
amongst that community.
1277
01:33:35,692 --> 01:33:44,298
♪♪
1278
01:33:44,300 --> 01:33:45,967
Just keep on practicing like a maniac.
1279
01:33:45,969 --> 01:33:48,436
Practice. Practice.
1280
01:33:48,438 --> 01:33:52,574
And listen and try to play with other
people as much as you possibly can
1281
01:33:52,576 --> 01:33:55,442
because you can learn
a lot faster that way.
1282
01:33:55,444 --> 01:33:57,945
And, uh, the whole idea
is to play with a band.
1283
01:33:57,947 --> 01:34:01,316
You know you can lock yourself up
in your room and practice forever
1284
01:34:01,318 --> 01:34:05,320
but if you don't play with somebody
then, uh, you're gonna sound that way.
1285
01:34:05,322 --> 01:34:11,162
So, uh, stick with it, you know and, uh,
you'll do it if you want it bad enough.
1286
01:34:14,531 --> 01:34:17,665
♪♪
1287
01:34:17,667 --> 01:34:20,567
♪ Stand up, stand up! ♪
1288
01:34:20,569 --> 01:34:22,436
♪ [chanting] ♪
1289
01:34:22,438 --> 01:34:24,039
♪ Stand up, stand up! ♪
1290
01:34:24,041 --> 01:34:32,414
♪♪
1291
01:34:32,416 --> 01:34:35,650
When you're surrounded by beautiful
people that come from the Nations,
1292
01:34:35,652 --> 01:34:39,053
and they're proud of their
heritage; it just inspires everybody.
1293
01:34:39,055 --> 01:34:42,757
♪ We've been fightin' for our freedom since
the Nina and the Pinta and the Santa Maria ♪
1294
01:34:42,759 --> 01:34:47,465
♪ Stand up! Like Geronimo, Sitting Bull,
Red Cloud, Crazy Horse, Leonard Peltier ♪
1295
01:34:50,334 --> 01:34:52,767
Indigenous people being left
out of the story of music
1296
01:34:52,769 --> 01:34:55,337
of course has everything
to do with the land.
1297
01:34:55,339 --> 01:35:00,975
It has to do with the way of
imagining the American Dream,
1298
01:35:00,977 --> 01:35:04,147
which was a land cleared
of indigenous people.
1299
01:35:06,483 --> 01:35:08,583
♪ [Buffy Saint Marie sings] ♪
1300
01:35:08,585 --> 01:35:12,587
♪ Don't stand between the
reservations and the corporate banks ♪
1301
01:35:12,589 --> 01:35:21,128
♪ They'll send in federal tanks
It isn't nice but it's reality ♪
1302
01:35:21,130 --> 01:35:25,835
♪ Bury my Heart
at Wounded Knee ♪
1303
01:35:27,636 --> 01:35:32,140
It's been a long time but we're still
here; we're still alive and we're singing.
1304
01:35:32,142 --> 01:35:36,410
♪ Cover me with pretty lies ♪
1305
01:35:36,412 --> 01:35:38,379
♪ Bury my Heart
at Wounded Knee ♪
1306
01:35:38,381 --> 01:35:42,049
They tried to erase it
but it didn't get erased.
1307
01:35:42,051 --> 01:35:44,886
If they had erased it, we wouldn't
be able to pick up the pieces.
1308
01:35:44,888 --> 01:35:47,588
♪ They got these energy
companies who want the land ♪
1309
01:35:47,590 --> 01:35:50,725
♪ And they've got
churches by the dozens ♪
1310
01:35:50,727 --> 01:35:54,695
Yeah, you wouldn't let me talk about it
before; well, now I'm gonna talk real loud.
1311
01:35:54,697 --> 01:36:01,668
♪ Want to guide our hand and sing our mother
earth over to pollution, war and greed ♪
1312
01:36:01,670 --> 01:36:04,938
♪ Bury my Heart
at Wounded Knee ♪
1313
01:36:04,940 --> 01:36:07,542
The big racket's been
around for a long time.
1314
01:36:07,544 --> 01:36:12,079
And anybody who really wants to be
effective learns how not to fight it...
1315
01:36:12,081 --> 01:36:15,749
'cause they'll outgun you, but
how to work around it, through it,
1316
01:36:15,751 --> 01:36:19,553
how to even heal it up.
1317
01:36:19,555 --> 01:36:22,824
We carry a medicine in us, you know,
especially the medicine of the arts.
1318
01:36:22,826 --> 01:36:27,027
♪ Bury my Heart
at Wounded Knee! ♪
1319
01:36:27,029 --> 01:36:37,070
♪ [line repeats] ♪
1320
01:36:37,072 --> 01:36:44,445
♪ [line repeats] ♪
1321
01:36:44,447 --> 01:36:54,054
[song ends]
1322
01:36:54,056 --> 01:36:57,661
[wild cheering]
1323
01:36:57,664 --> 01:37:02,529
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1324
01:37:02,532 --> 01:37:04,665
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