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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:03:38,845 --> 00:03:40,144 - It was sort of a weird day. 2 00:03:40,144 --> 00:03:42,481 The wind was lightish, 3 00:03:42,481 --> 00:03:44,890 and I was just kitin' there. 4 00:03:44,890 --> 00:03:48,880 I cut over to the south tower and some stuff fell 5 00:03:48,880 --> 00:03:51,556 so I cut back the other way and 6 00:03:51,556 --> 00:03:54,551 I just saw a mass falling towards my kite 7 00:03:54,551 --> 00:03:56,871 and I thought it was the same thing, 8 00:03:56,871 --> 00:03:59,218 and so I turned the kite back 9 00:03:59,218 --> 00:04:00,999 and then I looked over 10 00:04:00,999 --> 00:04:02,919 and, you know, before they hit, 11 00:04:02,919 --> 00:04:05,551 I realized it was a person that had jumped. 12 00:04:05,551 --> 00:04:08,271 So then I cut over just to see 13 00:04:08,271 --> 00:04:10,807 or maybe possibly help. 14 00:04:10,807 --> 00:04:12,588 The current just sucked them under 15 00:04:12,588 --> 00:04:15,095 and I stayed in the tide because I knew 16 00:04:15,095 --> 00:04:18,170 that the Coast Guard would come and 17 00:04:18,170 --> 00:04:21,185 that's when it became more of a surreal experience to me 18 00:04:21,185 --> 00:04:25,001 because I've seen that Coast Guard boat a million times 19 00:04:25,001 --> 00:04:27,411 and they've helped us out and rescued us 20 00:04:27,411 --> 00:04:28,713 when we have problems, 21 00:04:28,713 --> 00:04:31,848 but they're all wearing the white hazmat suits 22 00:04:31,848 --> 00:04:34,024 and that's when I realize that 23 00:04:34,024 --> 00:04:36,027 there was definitely a person in. 24 00:04:40,814 --> 00:04:43,875 - I never knew the real scale of the problem. 25 00:04:43,875 --> 00:04:46,787 I don't know, the whole thing is crazy to me. 26 00:04:46,787 --> 00:04:48,781 I mean, I just don't even understand it. 27 00:04:48,781 --> 00:04:50,317 Really. 28 00:04:50,317 --> 00:04:52,054 - When I was riding back after that time, 29 00:04:52,054 --> 00:04:55,559 I was thinking about how 30 00:04:55,559 --> 00:04:58,090 that person was at the lowest of the low 31 00:04:58,090 --> 00:05:02,272 of their life obviously and how the whole day 32 00:05:02,272 --> 00:05:04,618 all I could think about, it's gonna be a good day 33 00:05:04,618 --> 00:05:07,359 to go out and kite and pack my passions for it 34 00:05:07,359 --> 00:05:10,612 and here at the same time, you know, 35 00:05:10,612 --> 00:05:13,827 I'm reaching for what I love to do 36 00:05:13,827 --> 00:05:15,584 and this person's ending their life 37 00:05:15,584 --> 00:05:18,231 so that was unreal. 38 00:05:18,231 --> 00:05:20,108 - Yeah, exactly, kiting is, to me, 39 00:05:20,108 --> 00:05:22,337 a real celebration of life. 40 00:05:22,337 --> 00:05:24,566 It's exhilarating, it's thrilling, 41 00:05:24,566 --> 00:05:26,955 it's just awesome. 42 00:05:26,955 --> 00:05:29,185 So it's a real juxtaposition of 43 00:05:29,185 --> 00:05:31,552 celebration of life and ending of life. 44 00:05:31,552 --> 00:05:34,267 # Quiet 45 00:05:36,150 --> 00:05:40,376 # It's neither heaven nor space 46 00:05:41,392 --> 00:05:44,037 # It's just high 47 00:05:47,136 --> 00:05:51,026 # And the ring around the moon 48 00:05:52,011 --> 00:05:55,125 # Looks like light and love # 49 00:05:55,125 --> 00:05:57,674 - It was one of those epic days in San Francisco 50 00:05:57,674 --> 00:05:59,445 driving across the Golden Gate Bridge. 51 00:05:59,445 --> 00:06:00,736 It was crystal clear. 52 00:06:00,736 --> 00:06:02,942 The day was calm. 53 00:06:02,942 --> 00:06:05,450 There were tourists walking across the bridge 54 00:06:05,450 --> 00:06:07,935 and usually on those types of days 55 00:06:07,935 --> 00:06:10,164 I always soak in the beauty of the bay 56 00:06:10,164 --> 00:06:13,204 and look over to Alcatraz, 57 00:06:13,204 --> 00:06:16,697 and on that particular day 58 00:06:16,697 --> 00:06:19,486 I looked over, I was probably a little bit more 59 00:06:19,486 --> 00:06:23,710 than mid-span when I saw 60 00:06:23,710 --> 00:06:26,942 this gentleman on the railings, 61 00:06:26,942 --> 00:06:29,114 and at first glance, I thought, 62 00:06:29,114 --> 00:06:31,409 wow, this guy looks like he's gonna bungee jump 63 00:06:31,409 --> 00:06:32,610 because of the way that 64 00:06:32,610 --> 00:06:36,343 he was standing on the railing and then 65 00:06:36,343 --> 00:06:38,791 common sense kicked in and said you can't. 66 00:06:38,791 --> 00:06:42,437 My thoughts were you couldn't jump off the bridge, 67 00:06:42,437 --> 00:06:44,604 bungee jump off the bridge, 68 00:06:44,604 --> 00:06:47,430 and then he just kind of held his arms out 69 00:06:47,430 --> 00:06:51,750 and disappeared and I wasn't sure if 70 00:06:51,750 --> 00:06:55,632 I was imagining this and so I drove for a few seconds 71 00:06:55,632 --> 00:06:57,829 and looked in my review mirror 72 00:06:57,829 --> 00:07:02,000 and my heart rate went up and I almost 73 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:05,896 felt like I wanted to start crying because 74 00:07:05,896 --> 00:07:08,570 I thought to myself, wow, I might be one of the last people 75 00:07:08,570 --> 00:07:11,524 that have ever seen this person alive. 76 00:07:12,951 --> 00:07:14,807 When I went into the tower 77 00:07:14,807 --> 00:07:17,292 and I talked to the highway patrolmen, 78 00:07:17,292 --> 00:07:19,318 you know, I asked him blatantly, I said, 79 00:07:19,318 --> 00:07:20,620 "Is this a rare occurrence 80 00:07:20,620 --> 00:07:23,467 "or does this happen often?" 81 00:07:23,467 --> 00:07:25,771 And he looked at me and kinda smiled 82 00:07:25,771 --> 00:07:29,065 and just said, "It happens it all the time." 83 00:07:57,355 --> 00:08:00,117 - It's hard to define Gene as a person. 84 00:08:00,117 --> 00:08:01,003 He was 85 00:08:03,843 --> 00:08:07,006 just not of this world, 86 00:08:07,006 --> 00:08:09,789 I think is really the truth of it. 87 00:08:09,789 --> 00:08:13,237 Not of this world as we know it. 88 00:08:17,584 --> 00:08:19,066 His mother was woman who said, 89 00:08:19,066 --> 00:08:21,541 "Oh, I never want children," 90 00:08:21,541 --> 00:08:25,778 and then a few years later, she found herself pregnant 91 00:08:25,778 --> 00:08:28,285 and decided 92 00:08:29,975 --> 00:08:32,287 to have the child 93 00:08:32,287 --> 00:08:35,913 rather than leave the country for an alternative 94 00:08:35,913 --> 00:08:38,676 and she was looking forward to it 95 00:08:38,676 --> 00:08:42,686 and so came my friend Gene, 96 00:08:42,686 --> 00:08:46,611 who was always referred to as my little brother, Thump. 97 00:08:46,611 --> 00:08:49,814 He was born an old man. 98 00:08:51,824 --> 00:08:55,460 And all their lives it was just the two of them, 99 00:08:55,460 --> 00:08:56,768 pretty much. 100 00:08:56,768 --> 00:08:58,630 People came and went in their lives 101 00:08:58,630 --> 00:09:02,026 in relationships of various sorts, but 102 00:09:02,026 --> 00:09:04,875 it was mostly just always the two of them, 103 00:09:04,875 --> 00:09:08,139 dependent on each other for 104 00:09:09,681 --> 00:09:12,603 that stability that 105 00:09:12,603 --> 00:09:15,739 one thinks of as tomorrow is coming 106 00:09:15,739 --> 00:09:18,712 and we will do this and we will do that. 107 00:09:25,245 --> 00:09:27,431 - Growing up with Lisa in Marin, 108 00:09:27,431 --> 00:09:29,639 she was just, like, completely normal 109 00:09:29,639 --> 00:09:30,730 until she was like 14. 110 00:09:30,730 --> 00:09:31,697 - 14. 111 00:09:31,697 --> 00:09:33,342 - Yeah, and I'm four years older 112 00:09:33,342 --> 00:09:35,026 and I moved away, I lived in Alaska, 113 00:09:35,026 --> 00:09:37,108 and my mom would write me and say, 114 00:09:37,108 --> 00:09:39,992 "Hey, Lisa's acting strange 115 00:09:39,992 --> 00:09:41,491 "and doing this things," 116 00:09:41,491 --> 00:09:44,195 and I kept telling her it was 117 00:09:44,195 --> 00:09:46,711 typical teenage stuff and I came back, like, 118 00:09:46,711 --> 00:09:48,648 10 months later. 119 00:09:48,648 --> 00:09:50,142 There was a big change. 120 00:09:50,142 --> 00:09:51,837 - Our upbringing 121 00:09:54,267 --> 00:09:57,498 was fabulous, I would say, until my father 122 00:09:57,498 --> 00:09:59,799 suddenly died when I was 14. 123 00:09:59,799 --> 00:10:02,111 - Well, that was a shock. 124 00:10:02,111 --> 00:10:03,767 That threw all three of us, 125 00:10:03,767 --> 00:10:06,060 but it didn't make Jeff and I mentally ill, 126 00:10:06,060 --> 00:10:09,276 but Lisa had different personality. 127 00:10:09,276 --> 00:10:12,592 She wasn't as outgoing as my brother or I, 128 00:10:12,592 --> 00:10:13,649 and she was just-- 129 00:10:13,649 --> 00:10:15,629 - She was more angelic. 130 00:10:17,614 --> 00:10:20,078 We went through all the counselors 131 00:10:20,078 --> 00:10:24,323 and finally got her to go to a psychiatrist, 132 00:10:24,323 --> 00:10:28,045 and he said that Lisa is a paranoid schizophrenic 133 00:10:28,045 --> 00:10:30,536 and she will never recover. 134 00:10:31,797 --> 00:10:34,698 That was a terrible thing to tell a mother. 135 00:10:34,698 --> 00:10:36,842 He says, "You have to take her right now 136 00:10:36,842 --> 00:10:39,306 "to the crisis center at Marin General." 137 00:10:39,306 --> 00:10:41,023 She immediately, when we got there, 138 00:10:41,023 --> 00:10:43,903 got on the payphone and started calling her friends 139 00:10:43,903 --> 00:10:46,385 and telling 'em how terrible I was 140 00:10:46,385 --> 00:10:48,700 to bring her to this place. 141 00:10:48,700 --> 00:10:51,980 Well, they brought her into the crisis unit 142 00:10:51,980 --> 00:10:55,276 and do you know, for all the bad things 143 00:10:55,276 --> 00:10:58,135 she did when she was home, 144 00:10:58,135 --> 00:11:01,576 she straightened up, acted as if 145 00:11:01,576 --> 00:11:03,564 she was perfectly normal 146 00:11:03,564 --> 00:11:05,675 and they discharged her. 147 00:11:05,675 --> 00:11:08,257 We went through that several times. 148 00:11:14,646 --> 00:11:16,224 She had her own style. 149 00:11:16,224 --> 00:11:17,728 She liked to wear headbands. 150 00:11:17,728 --> 00:11:19,936 She liked to wear black. 151 00:11:19,936 --> 00:11:22,602 - Black leather headbands with rhinestones 152 00:11:22,602 --> 00:11:23,925 and matching gloves 153 00:11:23,925 --> 00:11:25,669 with no fingers - And she always wore 154 00:11:25,669 --> 00:11:27,588 bicycle gloves. 155 00:11:27,588 --> 00:11:30,129 - No, Harley Rider gloves. 156 00:11:30,129 --> 00:11:31,399 You know, leather. 157 00:11:31,399 --> 00:11:33,045 - Leather, leather. 158 00:11:33,045 --> 00:11:33,986 - Leather gloves. - She was 159 00:11:33,986 --> 00:11:35,326 a leather queen. - Yes, yes. 160 00:11:50,222 --> 00:11:53,480 - I met Gene at a comic book convention 161 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:55,360 in Oakland. 162 00:11:55,360 --> 00:11:57,261 We just hit it off immediately. 163 00:11:57,261 --> 00:11:58,584 By looking at us, you wouldn't think 164 00:11:58,584 --> 00:12:01,032 that we'd become such tight friends, 165 00:12:01,032 --> 00:12:03,730 but we did. 166 00:12:03,730 --> 00:12:06,631 You know, he looked like the 167 00:12:06,631 --> 00:12:09,475 cool rocker type, you know, 168 00:12:09,475 --> 00:12:12,269 long hair, you know, everything about him is 169 00:12:12,269 --> 00:12:14,125 just cool and the ladies like it 170 00:12:14,125 --> 00:12:17,751 and I was Mr. Hiphop, you know, 171 00:12:17,751 --> 00:12:19,661 other side of the spectrum and stuff. 172 00:12:19,661 --> 00:12:21,538 - Everything was black. 173 00:12:21,538 --> 00:12:23,020 His clothes were black. 174 00:12:23,020 --> 00:12:24,458 His hair was black. 175 00:12:26,758 --> 00:12:28,769 The curtains were black. 176 00:12:28,769 --> 00:12:30,785 The walls were black. 177 00:12:30,785 --> 00:12:32,394 The sheets were black. 178 00:12:34,292 --> 00:12:35,768 He just wanted... 179 00:12:37,428 --> 00:12:40,211 It's as though he wanted no, 180 00:12:40,211 --> 00:12:42,622 no contrasts. 181 00:12:42,622 --> 00:12:46,121 He mostly just wanted to be in his room with his computer. 182 00:12:47,600 --> 00:12:49,914 - Me and Gene had long talks about 183 00:12:49,914 --> 00:12:53,839 love and where he's trying to find it, 184 00:12:53,839 --> 00:12:57,189 and I told him he's not gonna find it on the internet. 185 00:12:57,189 --> 00:12:58,788 A lot of times, he didn't want to hear it. 186 00:12:58,788 --> 00:13:01,924 He just wanted what he saw. 187 00:13:01,924 --> 00:13:03,663 He would send me pictures of these girls 188 00:13:03,663 --> 00:13:06,135 and I'm like, 189 00:13:06,135 --> 00:13:07,748 "Dude, what are you doing?" 190 00:13:07,748 --> 00:13:09,977 You know, that's not, 191 00:13:09,977 --> 00:13:11,577 that ain't it, you know. 192 00:13:11,577 --> 00:13:15,577 I'm like, "Take time, get to know this person." 193 00:13:15,577 --> 00:13:18,339 You don't know this person from nothing 194 00:13:18,339 --> 00:13:20,376 just because you read a bio about this person 195 00:13:20,376 --> 00:13:22,350 and this person wants to 196 00:13:22,350 --> 00:13:24,288 turn around and have sex with you. 197 00:13:24,288 --> 00:13:26,232 That's not love, you know. 198 00:13:37,914 --> 00:13:40,207 - I noticed early on 199 00:13:40,207 --> 00:13:44,757 that Lisa was very interested in romance, 200 00:13:44,757 --> 00:13:49,455 and I saw her go through some very painful rejections. 201 00:13:49,455 --> 00:13:51,012 - She met a guy. 202 00:13:51,012 --> 00:13:53,593 This was just before Christmas. 203 00:13:53,593 --> 00:13:56,910 She took off with him on a bus. 204 00:13:56,910 --> 00:13:58,211 She was gone for a week. 205 00:13:58,211 --> 00:14:00,462 We have no idea where she was. 206 00:14:00,462 --> 00:14:02,158 She was off her medication, 207 00:14:02,158 --> 00:14:04,758 and I was wrapping gifts. 208 00:14:04,758 --> 00:14:09,176 All of a sudden, I looked up and there was Lisa outside 209 00:14:09,176 --> 00:14:12,770 just really in a bad state. 210 00:14:12,770 --> 00:14:16,205 She thought our dogs were devils. 211 00:14:16,205 --> 00:14:19,362 She broke a clock because she thought it was a time bomb. 212 00:14:19,362 --> 00:14:21,474 I had to have the police come out, 213 00:14:21,474 --> 00:14:23,564 but before they would admit her, 214 00:14:23,564 --> 00:14:25,514 she had to have a court order to get in 215 00:14:25,514 --> 00:14:27,306 because she'd been in and out 216 00:14:27,306 --> 00:14:29,599 of the crisis so many times. 217 00:14:31,939 --> 00:14:33,716 - Being a schizophrenic is like 218 00:14:33,716 --> 00:14:38,213 watching TV and having 44 channels on at the same time, 219 00:14:38,213 --> 00:14:41,720 and that's her environment 24/7. 220 00:14:41,720 --> 00:14:44,158 You know, there's just like little noises here, 221 00:14:44,158 --> 00:14:47,306 something there, and I'm trying to talk here, 222 00:14:47,306 --> 00:14:49,502 but that's distracting me, that's distracting me, 223 00:14:49,502 --> 00:14:50,941 and it's all equal. 224 00:14:52,219 --> 00:14:53,755 That would freak anybody out. 225 00:15:06,712 --> 00:15:08,941 - She graduated from house to house 226 00:15:08,941 --> 00:15:12,493 to a home where there was constant care 227 00:15:12,493 --> 00:15:15,788 and finally to independent living 228 00:15:15,788 --> 00:15:17,548 for about 15 years. 229 00:15:17,548 --> 00:15:18,647 - That place was great. - And she had 230 00:15:18,647 --> 00:15:20,320 her own room and she had 231 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:22,924 a very nice situation there, she liked it there. 232 00:15:22,924 --> 00:15:25,231 - But one of her roommates there, right, 233 00:15:25,231 --> 00:15:26,316 jumped off the bridge too? 234 00:15:26,316 --> 00:15:28,150 - Well, no, this was a friend that-- 235 00:15:28,150 --> 00:15:29,169 - A friend. 236 00:15:29,169 --> 00:15:30,417 - A friend of hers. 237 00:15:30,417 --> 00:15:31,867 - Two years ago? 238 00:15:31,867 --> 00:15:32,747 - Oh, no, it's longer 239 00:15:32,747 --> 00:15:33,502 than that. - Longer than that. 240 00:15:33,502 --> 00:15:34,776 - Much longer. 241 00:15:35,966 --> 00:15:39,481 - As far as pills and other forms of suicide, 242 00:15:39,481 --> 00:15:43,544 I haven't personally experienced that in my houses. 243 00:15:43,544 --> 00:15:46,753 It's like the last three people, I think, 244 00:15:46,753 --> 00:15:49,089 who I was kind of close to in Buckaloo 245 00:15:49,089 --> 00:15:51,318 were all bridge jumpers. 246 00:16:01,960 --> 00:16:04,211 - After she settled in in Marin-- 247 00:16:04,211 --> 00:16:05,139 - She did well there. - She was pretty 248 00:16:05,139 --> 00:16:07,664 stable, then all of a sudden this past year, 249 00:16:07,664 --> 00:16:11,152 she just felt she needed more support for some reason. 250 00:16:11,152 --> 00:16:13,644 Do you think that was the medication change? 251 00:16:13,644 --> 00:16:15,600 - No, I think it was because she was ill. 252 00:16:15,600 --> 00:16:17,559 - Okay, she wasn't feeling good. 253 00:16:18,979 --> 00:16:20,805 - Her teeth were just so rotted 254 00:16:20,805 --> 00:16:22,948 and they felt it was from medication 255 00:16:22,948 --> 00:16:25,199 and from drinking a lot of Coke. 256 00:16:25,199 --> 00:16:27,748 So she had to have all her teeth removed. 257 00:16:27,748 --> 00:16:28,655 So that was-- - She looked kinda 258 00:16:28,655 --> 00:16:30,628 funny walking around with no teeth. 259 00:16:30,628 --> 00:16:33,769 - That was a problem, too. 260 00:16:33,769 --> 00:16:36,858 It was just from then on downhill. 261 00:16:43,682 --> 00:16:45,634 - Okay, everyone, let's stay together. 262 00:16:45,634 --> 00:16:48,588 The Golden Gate Bridge was designed by Joseph Strauss. 263 00:16:48,588 --> 00:16:51,393 It opened in 1937. 264 00:16:51,393 --> 00:16:53,836 Each year, about nine million tourists 265 00:16:53,836 --> 00:16:55,596 come to visit and they enjoy-- 266 00:16:55,596 --> 00:16:58,338 - Well, we went for Easter vacation 267 00:16:58,338 --> 00:17:01,256 to take out the kids to San Francisco, 268 00:17:01,256 --> 00:17:04,646 and before going to the Alcatraz, 269 00:17:04,646 --> 00:17:06,821 before going to the Golden Bridge, 270 00:17:06,821 --> 00:17:10,693 we went to Alcatraz and we went to 271 00:17:10,693 --> 00:17:14,608 the Pier 39 and from there we took a walk 272 00:17:14,608 --> 00:17:16,367 to the Golden Gate. 273 00:17:21,581 --> 00:17:22,967 - We had a big dinner on-- 274 00:17:22,967 --> 00:17:23,852 - The week before Easter. 275 00:17:23,852 --> 00:17:26,220 - The week before, yep, Palm Sunday. 276 00:17:26,220 --> 00:17:27,799 So I said, "Lisa, I'm not gonna fix 277 00:17:27,799 --> 00:17:29,751 "a big dinner on Easter Sunday." 278 00:17:29,751 --> 00:17:32,340 The kids weren't going to be around. 279 00:17:32,340 --> 00:17:33,420 So a few-- 280 00:17:33,420 --> 00:17:35,362 - Except that was a tradition in our family 281 00:17:35,362 --> 00:17:37,046 to get together. 282 00:17:37,046 --> 00:17:38,465 - Well, she didn't seem to mind. 283 00:17:38,465 --> 00:17:40,897 She never objected. 284 00:17:40,897 --> 00:17:44,190 So I called her about 1 o'clock on, 285 00:17:44,190 --> 00:17:45,609 she didn't feel good that week, 286 00:17:45,609 --> 00:17:47,539 she still didn't go to work, 287 00:17:47,539 --> 00:17:49,833 and so I said, "Well, I guess I could come down, 288 00:17:49,833 --> 00:17:52,800 "but I don't know what I can do." 289 00:17:57,606 --> 00:18:01,584 - Lisa was so quiet and, oftentimes, had this, 290 00:18:01,584 --> 00:18:03,726 I don't know how you'd say it, poker face? 291 00:18:03,726 --> 00:18:06,948 Where she kept her feelings to herself. 292 00:18:06,948 --> 00:18:09,318 She wasn't one to, you know, 293 00:18:09,318 --> 00:18:11,865 get all emotional and which surprised me 294 00:18:11,865 --> 00:18:15,139 'cause I look back now at Mira Woods. 295 00:18:15,139 --> 00:18:16,843 We were walking down the little trail 296 00:18:16,843 --> 00:18:20,043 and there was this huge redwood tree 297 00:18:20,043 --> 00:18:22,347 lying in the middle of the path 298 00:18:22,347 --> 00:18:23,509 and she looked at it and she goes, 299 00:18:23,509 --> 00:18:25,280 "Wow, look at that!" 300 00:18:25,280 --> 00:18:27,061 And sounds like no big deal 301 00:18:27,061 --> 00:18:29,707 but for Lisa that was like, 302 00:18:29,707 --> 00:18:31,285 that was different. 303 00:18:31,285 --> 00:18:33,372 - And then she came home, 304 00:18:33,372 --> 00:18:34,452 and I guess she was hungry 305 00:18:34,452 --> 00:18:36,266 and she asked a girl there, 306 00:18:36,266 --> 00:18:37,684 "Did you fix dinner?" 307 00:18:37,684 --> 00:18:39,050 And they said, "No." 308 00:18:39,050 --> 00:18:40,841 And so then they said she was very quiet 309 00:18:40,841 --> 00:18:43,346 and she got in the freezer and took something out 310 00:18:43,346 --> 00:18:47,593 and fixed it herself and after she had then eaten, 311 00:18:47,593 --> 00:18:50,825 they said she was very quiet when she was eating, 312 00:18:50,825 --> 00:18:53,705 she got up and took her purse and her jacket 313 00:18:53,705 --> 00:18:55,955 and off she went 314 00:18:55,955 --> 00:18:58,067 and that's the last they saw her. 315 00:19:05,489 --> 00:19:08,560 - We were taking pictures of each other, 316 00:19:08,560 --> 00:19:11,131 and I was taking pictures to them, 317 00:19:11,131 --> 00:19:14,013 and Paulo was taking pictures to us, 318 00:19:14,013 --> 00:19:16,827 and they were playing and-- 319 00:19:16,827 --> 00:19:18,192 - And I got scared. - He was holding 320 00:19:18,192 --> 00:19:22,774 the baby and we were walking and-- 321 00:19:22,774 --> 00:19:24,919 - And we saw that lady. 322 00:19:24,919 --> 00:19:26,812 - The lady, yes, put the-- 323 00:19:26,812 --> 00:19:28,140 - The bag on the ground 324 00:19:28,140 --> 00:19:30,004 and she jumped off. 325 00:19:30,004 --> 00:19:32,457 - But I said, "She jumped, she jumped!" 326 00:19:32,457 --> 00:19:33,332 And I was like-- 327 00:19:33,332 --> 00:19:36,280 - And she told my brother 328 00:19:36,280 --> 00:19:38,342 to go call the cops. 329 00:19:38,342 --> 00:19:41,563 - Well, Paulo went running down to get some help 330 00:19:41,563 --> 00:19:43,696 because I wanted somebody to help her 331 00:19:43,696 --> 00:19:46,043 because for us it was the first time 332 00:19:46,043 --> 00:19:49,493 to see somebody jump off the bridge. 333 00:19:51,109 --> 00:19:53,240 And before she jump, 334 00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:55,235 she look at me and Vidarlan. 335 00:19:55,235 --> 00:19:56,557 She was laughing. 336 00:19:56,557 --> 00:19:58,669 She laugh like a smile like 337 00:19:58,669 --> 00:20:02,375 you don't know what I do, but she smile and jump. 338 00:20:04,265 --> 00:20:07,633 - Like she was acting like, 339 00:20:07,633 --> 00:20:09,318 like a gorilla or something. 340 00:20:09,318 --> 00:20:11,900 - Ay, Sebastian. 341 00:20:11,900 --> 00:20:13,659 No, that's not it. 342 00:20:13,659 --> 00:20:16,794 He likes to make things up. 343 00:20:25,562 --> 00:20:29,571 - I'm not 100% convinced that she did commit suicide. 344 00:20:29,571 --> 00:20:32,196 I don't know if someone had accompanied her 345 00:20:32,196 --> 00:20:33,711 to the Golden Gate Bridge 346 00:20:33,711 --> 00:20:36,100 and had encouraged her to jump. 347 00:20:36,100 --> 00:20:39,865 I don't know if someone had been pressuring her 348 00:20:39,865 --> 00:20:42,190 to go to the Golden Gate Bridge and jump 349 00:20:42,190 --> 00:20:46,447 and, certainly, it is a highly risky 350 00:20:46,447 --> 00:20:50,075 rather glorious way 351 00:20:50,075 --> 00:20:53,114 to draw attention to oneself. 352 00:20:56,660 --> 00:20:59,366 - My brother's very religious. 353 00:20:59,366 --> 00:21:01,674 He doesn't believe she committed suicide. 354 00:21:01,674 --> 00:21:03,370 He thinks it's something else. 355 00:21:03,370 --> 00:21:04,757 I don't know what he thinks. 356 00:21:04,757 --> 00:21:05,834 - I didn't know that. 357 00:21:05,834 --> 00:21:08,554 - Well, he won't call it that because 358 00:21:08,554 --> 00:21:11,177 it's a sin to commit suicide in his mind 359 00:21:11,177 --> 00:21:13,817 and that's not what she did. 360 00:21:13,817 --> 00:21:15,903 She fell or something, I don't know what he, 361 00:21:15,903 --> 00:21:20,268 he's coming up with different justifications so 362 00:21:20,268 --> 00:21:21,204 he can look at it-- - He doesn't talk 363 00:21:21,204 --> 00:21:23,328 to me like that, so. 364 00:21:24,788 --> 00:21:27,922 - Thing is, if you go stand on that bridge and look down, 365 00:21:27,922 --> 00:21:29,923 the amount of guts that you have to have 366 00:21:29,923 --> 00:21:33,409 to stick anything over that rail, 367 00:21:33,409 --> 00:21:36,728 it must have been incredible, the pressure on her, 368 00:21:36,728 --> 00:21:39,665 it had to be worse than the thought of doing that, 369 00:21:39,665 --> 00:21:42,136 and I've always thought of myself 370 00:21:42,136 --> 00:21:43,714 as a stronger person than her 371 00:21:43,714 --> 00:21:46,477 and there's no way I would have the guts to do that 372 00:21:46,477 --> 00:21:49,389 even with, you know, a parachute or something, 373 00:21:49,389 --> 00:21:52,676 and for her to just do it just like that, 374 00:21:52,676 --> 00:21:55,671 it was like, I still can't believe it. 375 00:21:55,671 --> 00:21:58,464 My family, my husband, my kids, 376 00:21:58,464 --> 00:22:01,951 we're like, how did she even think about doing that? 377 00:22:01,951 --> 00:22:06,196 - I think it was a relief, a relief for her, 378 00:22:06,196 --> 00:22:09,331 because she knew she probably never would be 379 00:22:09,331 --> 00:22:11,699 physically well again and she knew 380 00:22:11,699 --> 00:22:13,832 she had the mental illness 381 00:22:13,832 --> 00:22:17,320 and she was just at the end of her rope. 382 00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:20,200 There were too many things, so. 383 00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:21,213 - Yeah, I agree with that but it's-- 384 00:22:21,213 --> 00:22:24,159 - She's in a better place, that's all I can say. 385 00:22:24,159 --> 00:22:26,825 - You have to look at it that way. 386 00:22:26,825 --> 00:22:28,070 You know. 387 00:22:44,155 --> 00:22:47,173 # In this darkest hour 388 00:22:47,173 --> 00:22:51,208 # A brave face will break soon 389 00:22:56,037 --> 00:22:59,614 # The world waits for you 390 00:23:02,127 --> 00:23:03,172 # The world waits # 391 00:23:03,172 --> 00:23:04,676 - Yeah, I try and relive, you know, 392 00:23:04,676 --> 00:23:06,517 when doing some things, say this is 393 00:23:06,517 --> 00:23:10,881 something Philip likes or my son would like this or, 394 00:23:10,881 --> 00:23:14,268 he still lives with me, you know. 395 00:23:14,268 --> 00:23:16,966 I go somewhere, a ballgame or something, 396 00:23:16,966 --> 00:23:18,323 he's there. 397 00:23:20,555 --> 00:23:22,771 And then 398 00:23:22,771 --> 00:23:25,961 I think I'm getting more of an understanding 399 00:23:25,961 --> 00:23:29,396 what he went through toward the end 400 00:23:29,396 --> 00:23:31,618 'cause you feel the same way, it's just, 401 00:23:31,618 --> 00:23:34,400 you know, what makes any of us go over that line? 402 00:23:37,130 --> 00:23:38,239 It's just 403 00:23:39,844 --> 00:23:42,127 some days you think like that yourself. 404 00:23:42,127 --> 00:23:44,969 It's just he thought about it every day. 405 00:23:50,532 --> 00:23:54,660 - What makes a person be able to do that? 406 00:23:54,660 --> 00:23:57,846 I don't know, I don't have the answer to that. 407 00:23:57,846 --> 00:24:00,246 - Well, it's like any pain. 408 00:24:00,246 --> 00:24:02,635 When it becomes unbearable, 409 00:24:02,635 --> 00:24:05,376 you'll do anything and it's like physical cancer, 410 00:24:05,376 --> 00:24:09,703 I mean, if you have cancer of the mind, 411 00:24:09,703 --> 00:24:12,794 you know, nobody knows what you're going through. 412 00:24:18,112 --> 00:24:22,079 - I mean, it was like our hands being tied. 413 00:24:22,079 --> 00:24:24,840 I mean, no matter how much we talk to him, 414 00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:26,634 I mean, he was in and out of the hospital, 415 00:24:26,634 --> 00:24:29,273 the doctors talked to him and 416 00:24:30,900 --> 00:24:34,706 it was like nothing would change his mind. 417 00:24:37,051 --> 00:24:39,601 In fact, I think the medicines made him worse. 418 00:24:40,911 --> 00:24:44,394 - We thought if we can get him through his episodes, 419 00:24:44,394 --> 00:24:45,583 but that's the crazy thing is 420 00:24:45,583 --> 00:24:49,004 as soon as you get somebody strong enough, 421 00:24:49,004 --> 00:24:50,990 that's when they have the courage. 422 00:24:53,759 --> 00:24:56,918 So do you make 'em well or do you keep 'em sick? 423 00:25:02,033 --> 00:25:03,142 He tried it a few times 424 00:25:03,142 --> 00:25:05,947 but the second attempt he said, 425 00:25:05,947 --> 00:25:07,854 "My third attempt, it's not gonna fail." 426 00:25:07,854 --> 00:25:09,752 He said, "I'll make sure of it." 427 00:25:11,753 --> 00:25:14,793 He researched it and found the Golden Gate Bridge 428 00:25:14,793 --> 00:25:16,490 on the internet. 429 00:25:16,490 --> 00:25:18,849 He said to him it was the best way. 430 00:25:20,370 --> 00:25:22,322 I mean, it was planned out for months 431 00:25:22,322 --> 00:25:23,943 and the final two weeks 432 00:25:23,943 --> 00:25:27,542 he was making his last preparations, so. 433 00:25:29,169 --> 00:25:30,791 He said whether some people believe 434 00:25:30,791 --> 00:25:33,444 suicide's a sin or not. 435 00:25:33,444 --> 00:25:35,056 He asked that a lot. 436 00:25:36,716 --> 00:25:38,973 I said, "It's something man made up." 437 00:25:40,823 --> 00:25:44,709 And at least he thanked me for telling him the truth. 438 00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:48,452 You know, I don't know. 439 00:25:48,452 --> 00:25:51,631 It's just I don't think God's gonna hold you responsible 440 00:25:51,631 --> 00:25:54,628 for something you can't handle, 441 00:25:54,628 --> 00:25:56,932 and he said, "Well, whether I come back or not," 442 00:25:56,932 --> 00:25:59,948 he says, "If I do, I'll see ya again, Dad. 443 00:25:59,948 --> 00:26:02,891 "If not, just know that I'm at peace." 444 00:26:14,932 --> 00:26:16,053 What I'm trying to say is that 445 00:26:16,053 --> 00:26:17,333 I didn't want him to feel like 446 00:26:17,333 --> 00:26:19,840 he was in a cage inside of himself. 447 00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:22,677 Some people say the body's a temple. 448 00:26:22,677 --> 00:26:26,805 Well, he thought his body was prison in his mind. 449 00:26:26,805 --> 00:26:28,127 He knew he was loved. 450 00:26:28,127 --> 00:26:29,364 He knew he had everything, 451 00:26:29,364 --> 00:26:32,095 could do anything, and yet 452 00:26:32,095 --> 00:26:33,552 he felt trapped. 453 00:26:35,101 --> 00:26:37,388 That was the only way he could get free. 454 00:26:54,747 --> 00:26:57,510 - Gene was very overly dramatic. 455 00:26:57,510 --> 00:27:00,923 - Even the simplest things were very long and drawn out 456 00:27:00,923 --> 00:27:03,695 and very hard and he would always say things like, 457 00:27:03,695 --> 00:27:05,339 "Kill me now." 458 00:27:05,339 --> 00:27:08,153 You'd be talking about something and ask him,, 459 00:27:08,153 --> 00:27:09,101 "What do you want for breakfast?" 460 00:27:09,101 --> 00:27:10,949 "Oh, I don't care, just kill me." 461 00:27:12,373 --> 00:27:13,309 "Okay, well, you know, 462 00:27:13,309 --> 00:27:14,909 "where do you wanna go to look for a job today?" 463 00:27:14,909 --> 00:27:17,181 "I don't care, it's not gonna matter, just kill me." 464 00:27:17,181 --> 00:27:19,325 - Yeah, "Might be easier for you to just kill me." 465 00:27:19,325 --> 00:27:21,586 - You didn't take him serious if he said certain things 466 00:27:21,586 --> 00:27:23,837 because he would almost say it in a joking manner. 467 00:27:23,837 --> 00:27:27,951 He wouldn't say it with, like, this intensity of, 468 00:27:27,951 --> 00:27:29,732 you know, like, "I'm gonna do it this time," 469 00:27:29,732 --> 00:27:32,409 and he wasn't that person. 470 00:27:32,409 --> 00:27:33,807 He would make light of it and he was like, 471 00:27:33,807 --> 00:27:35,481 "Man, I'm gonna just commit suicide. 472 00:27:35,481 --> 00:27:37,497 "I'm gonna just shoot myself. 473 00:27:37,497 --> 00:27:39,754 "I'm gonna do it with a bow and arrow." 474 00:27:39,754 --> 00:27:41,443 And when he would say this stuff, 475 00:27:41,443 --> 00:27:42,371 we were just like, "Yeah, whatever," 476 00:27:42,371 --> 00:27:44,345 and years and years and years would go by 477 00:27:44,345 --> 00:27:46,960 as he's crying wolf. 478 00:27:50,816 --> 00:27:54,641 - But he was still fun to be around. 479 00:27:54,641 --> 00:27:55,957 When I hear myself saying it, 480 00:27:55,957 --> 00:27:57,376 it sounds like he wasn't fun. 481 00:27:57,376 --> 00:27:58,528 I mean, he was fun to be around. 482 00:27:58,528 --> 00:27:59,317 He was fun to go out with 483 00:27:59,317 --> 00:28:01,996 and go to the clubs with and stuff. 484 00:28:01,996 --> 00:28:04,202 He would just get in those little funks 485 00:28:04,202 --> 00:28:05,636 and pretty soon it was 486 00:28:07,327 --> 00:28:10,516 just like I didn't even pay it any attention. 487 00:28:10,516 --> 00:28:12,553 It was just something he said. 488 00:28:12,553 --> 00:28:15,478 All the time in every conversation. 489 00:28:18,033 --> 00:28:18,961 - If everyone onboard 490 00:28:18,961 --> 00:28:21,382 could take their seats as we go under the bridge. 491 00:28:21,382 --> 00:28:25,458 The swells and tides are very unpredictable. 492 00:28:25,458 --> 00:28:29,048 The Golden Gate Bridge is 1.2 miles long 493 00:28:29,048 --> 00:28:32,717 and the towers are 746 feet tall. 494 00:28:32,717 --> 00:28:35,416 The roadway is suspended 220 feet 495 00:28:35,416 --> 00:28:37,762 above the water at center span. 496 00:28:39,592 --> 00:28:41,730 The Golden Gate Bridge is the most photographed 497 00:28:41,730 --> 00:28:44,458 manmade structure in North America 498 00:28:44,458 --> 00:28:45,648 and it is also considered 499 00:28:45,648 --> 00:28:48,565 one of the Seven Wonders of the Modern World. 500 00:28:51,035 --> 00:28:53,229 - We had gone to Montana, Glacier National Park, 501 00:28:53,229 --> 00:28:56,725 the year before and Philip had a blast there. 502 00:28:56,725 --> 00:28:58,642 We told him if he got outta the army in time, 503 00:28:58,642 --> 00:29:00,946 which he did, that we were going back there 504 00:29:00,946 --> 00:29:04,475 and they had those forest fires and so 505 00:29:04,475 --> 00:29:07,781 we couldn't get in so I had been to San Francisco before 506 00:29:07,781 --> 00:29:09,389 and I said, "You'll love it there," 507 00:29:09,389 --> 00:29:11,610 and the bridge fascinated him. 508 00:29:11,610 --> 00:29:13,210 - For some reason, yeah, 509 00:29:13,210 --> 00:29:14,436 when we were driving across the bridge, 510 00:29:14,436 --> 00:29:17,405 he just kept looking around and 511 00:29:17,405 --> 00:29:19,340 I just thought it was kind of odd, 512 00:29:19,340 --> 00:29:20,620 you know, that he would just be, 513 00:29:20,620 --> 00:29:22,452 and he wanted to get out. 514 00:29:22,452 --> 00:29:24,097 He says, "Can we walk along the bridge?" 515 00:29:24,097 --> 00:29:26,891 And I says, "I guess there are people who could 516 00:29:26,891 --> 00:29:27,909 "walk along the bridge." 517 00:29:27,909 --> 00:29:29,540 - Yeah, we were on a tour bus. 518 00:29:29,540 --> 00:29:32,047 - Yeah, I said, "But, you know, we can't get out now" 519 00:29:32,047 --> 00:29:36,783 and he just kept looking out the window 520 00:29:36,783 --> 00:29:40,008 like he wanted to get out and just look around and 521 00:29:43,428 --> 00:29:46,489 you know, he thought it was just so beautiful and 522 00:29:46,489 --> 00:29:47,865 when we did get out of the bus 523 00:29:47,865 --> 00:29:50,685 and he wanted his picture taken a few times 524 00:29:50,685 --> 00:29:53,709 with the bridge in the background and... 525 00:29:54,619 --> 00:29:55,244 - He'd ask questions. 526 00:29:55,244 --> 00:29:56,588 "How deep do you think it is? 527 00:29:56,588 --> 00:29:58,998 "How high do you think it is?" 528 00:30:02,374 --> 00:30:04,188 - I mean, I like the bridge too, 529 00:30:04,188 --> 00:30:06,961 but he just seemed so fascinated by it 530 00:30:06,961 --> 00:30:10,793 and I just thought that was kinda odd 531 00:30:10,793 --> 00:30:13,652 to have such a fascination with it. 532 00:30:13,652 --> 00:30:15,244 I don't know, it was like 533 00:30:15,244 --> 00:30:17,418 almost calling him, you know, type thing. 534 00:30:17,418 --> 00:30:20,906 It was like magnetic to him. 535 00:30:20,906 --> 00:30:21,974 - Yeah. 536 00:30:23,911 --> 00:30:25,249 - I don't know. 537 00:30:28,966 --> 00:30:31,345 - We thought he might go and live out there. 538 00:30:31,345 --> 00:30:35,119 Even if he's homeless, at least it's a city he loves. 539 00:30:35,119 --> 00:30:36,535 'Cause he was homeless in Texas, 540 00:30:36,535 --> 00:30:38,401 lived out of his car. 541 00:30:38,401 --> 00:30:41,900 Met two girls online, went down twice. 542 00:30:41,900 --> 00:30:43,313 Those didn't work. 543 00:30:44,852 --> 00:30:47,991 - He always fell in love with the wrong person. 544 00:30:47,991 --> 00:30:50,537 I think everything just disillusioned him. 545 00:30:50,537 --> 00:30:54,430 He had this idealistic view of things 546 00:30:54,430 --> 00:30:59,398 and this perception of how everything should be 547 00:30:59,398 --> 00:31:03,869 and then when it didn't meet up to his expectations, 548 00:31:03,869 --> 00:31:06,756 after awhile, it was like, what's the point then? 549 00:31:10,010 --> 00:31:12,329 - But he still had to make a choice. 550 00:31:20,704 --> 00:31:24,885 - Gene's choice, his preference had been made years before. 551 00:31:24,885 --> 00:31:27,327 He became increasingly alienated 552 00:31:27,327 --> 00:31:29,919 and he had told his mother that 553 00:31:29,919 --> 00:31:31,892 he wanted to kill himself 554 00:31:31,892 --> 00:31:34,546 and she, in essence, had told him, 555 00:31:34,546 --> 00:31:38,209 "I didn't invest a lifetime in you to have you 556 00:31:38,209 --> 00:31:41,874 "die on me, kill yourself, and walk away. 557 00:31:41,874 --> 00:31:45,492 "You don't have a right to do that while I'm alive." 558 00:31:48,708 --> 00:31:50,937 And I think it was very hard for him 559 00:31:50,937 --> 00:31:55,673 to watch his mother's non-participation 560 00:31:55,673 --> 00:31:59,018 in a battle with cancer that she might have won. 561 00:32:00,188 --> 00:32:02,587 It was a choice on her part. 562 00:32:04,128 --> 00:32:05,984 - When I talked to him, 563 00:32:05,984 --> 00:32:09,062 he was acting as if life goes on, 564 00:32:09,062 --> 00:32:11,941 you know, type situation 565 00:32:11,941 --> 00:32:15,112 and I would always tell him I'm here for you, 566 00:32:15,112 --> 00:32:17,181 you still got family no matter what. 567 00:32:19,021 --> 00:32:21,221 I'm a brother from another mother. 568 00:32:21,221 --> 00:32:24,451 - He said to me after she was gone 569 00:32:24,451 --> 00:32:27,978 and there was a lot of stuff to clean up, 570 00:32:27,978 --> 00:32:31,686 and he said, "Well, now I can finally, 571 00:32:31,686 --> 00:32:34,363 "now I can finally end it all." 572 00:32:34,363 --> 00:32:36,827 And I looked at him and I said, 573 00:32:36,827 --> 00:32:39,845 "Well, you will promise me 574 00:32:39,845 --> 00:32:43,321 "that you will not go without saying goodbye." 575 00:32:52,301 --> 00:32:54,307 - I remember coming home, 576 00:32:54,307 --> 00:32:56,418 because Thursday night's garbage day 577 00:32:56,418 --> 00:32:57,880 and Friday's recycling day, 578 00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:00,482 and Philip even did that before he left. 579 00:33:00,482 --> 00:33:03,149 He took the recycling things out to the curb 580 00:33:03,149 --> 00:33:06,063 and I came home that Friday 581 00:33:06,063 --> 00:33:08,415 and they were empty and I said, 582 00:33:08,415 --> 00:33:10,132 "Oh, that's unusual for him not to bring 583 00:33:10,132 --> 00:33:11,702 "the buckets back in." 584 00:33:13,105 --> 00:33:14,353 And when I came in the house 585 00:33:14,353 --> 00:33:16,465 and as soon as she said, "Where's Philip? 586 00:33:16,465 --> 00:33:17,564 "Isn't he with you?" 587 00:33:17,564 --> 00:33:20,779 and I was like, he did it, I knew. 588 00:33:24,089 --> 00:33:28,135 And here's the hard part for me. 589 00:33:28,135 --> 00:33:30,662 I had a feeling it was going to be in San Francisco 590 00:33:30,662 --> 00:33:33,859 but I said, if he's in San Francisco 591 00:33:33,859 --> 00:33:36,257 and I call the police to stop him, 592 00:33:36,257 --> 00:33:39,140 if I have time yet, 593 00:33:39,140 --> 00:33:41,327 that he's gonna just hang himself 594 00:33:41,327 --> 00:33:44,631 or have the policemen shoot him, 595 00:33:44,631 --> 00:33:47,201 and I said if he's that determined, 596 00:33:47,201 --> 00:33:49,761 I have to let him go, 597 00:33:49,761 --> 00:33:52,033 but when she asked me, I said, "No, 598 00:33:52,033 --> 00:33:55,177 "he's not coming home" and 599 00:33:55,177 --> 00:33:59,185 from the death certificate, he was already done. 600 00:33:59,185 --> 00:34:00,593 It's just waiting for the policemen 601 00:34:00,593 --> 00:34:02,129 to show up at the door. 602 00:34:19,248 --> 00:34:20,880 - We just came around the corner 603 00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:25,338 after snapping a shot of San Francisco in the backdrop 604 00:34:25,338 --> 00:34:26,426 and he was right there. 605 00:34:26,426 --> 00:34:28,333 - Yeah, sorta surprised him. 606 00:34:28,333 --> 00:34:29,976 - Yeah, we startled him. 607 00:34:29,976 --> 00:34:31,402 - Came up upon him. 608 00:34:31,402 --> 00:34:33,691 - He was taking off his backpack. 609 00:34:33,691 --> 00:34:35,995 In hindsight, he was probably getting ready to jump, 610 00:34:35,995 --> 00:34:38,795 then put back his backpack on really quickly 611 00:34:38,795 --> 00:34:41,750 and acted nervous and we interrupted him. 612 00:34:41,750 --> 00:34:44,916 We interrupted him from jumping 613 00:34:44,916 --> 00:34:47,859 and you spoke with him 614 00:34:47,859 --> 00:34:50,125 'cause you noticed something odd. 615 00:34:50,125 --> 00:34:51,839 - Yeah, just his whole body language, 616 00:34:51,839 --> 00:34:54,334 his whole energy was just a bit off. 617 00:34:54,334 --> 00:34:55,834 He was definitely nervous 618 00:34:55,834 --> 00:34:57,786 and he had a, was shuffling his shoulder 619 00:34:57,786 --> 00:35:00,707 and I initially picked up on that 620 00:35:00,707 --> 00:35:02,734 and said, "Are you okay? 621 00:35:02,734 --> 00:35:04,333 "What's going on?" 622 00:35:04,333 --> 00:35:06,093 And at that point, 623 00:35:06,093 --> 00:35:08,397 he made brief eye contact. 624 00:35:08,397 --> 00:35:09,325 - Well-dressed guy. 625 00:35:09,325 --> 00:35:10,157 - Yeah. 626 00:35:10,157 --> 00:35:12,205 - Brief eye contact, too, he was very nervous. 627 00:35:12,205 --> 00:35:13,760 He wouldn't look you in the eye for very long 628 00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:16,501 and just kept darting away, looking away. 629 00:35:18,481 --> 00:35:20,896 And his biggest concern when he ask him, 630 00:35:20,896 --> 00:35:23,052 "Are you all right?" 631 00:35:23,052 --> 00:35:26,293 He said, "It's a long way down to the water." 632 00:35:26,293 --> 00:35:27,679 - No, he said, "It's a long way down." 633 00:35:27,679 --> 00:35:28,980 - "Long way down," right. 634 00:35:28,980 --> 00:35:31,444 - And I didn't know how to quite take that 635 00:35:31,444 --> 00:35:34,736 when I heard him say that, 636 00:35:34,736 --> 00:35:36,715 and I didn't know if I heard him correctly. 637 00:35:36,715 --> 00:35:37,673 I thought maybe he had meant 638 00:35:37,673 --> 00:35:39,315 it's a long way back to the other side of the bridge 639 00:35:39,315 --> 00:35:41,427 and here I am thinking, well, you're three quarters 640 00:35:41,427 --> 00:35:43,656 of the way, you're close, 641 00:35:43,656 --> 00:35:46,184 and, of course, that wasn't the case. 642 00:35:46,184 --> 00:35:47,795 - And we didn't see him jump. 643 00:35:47,795 --> 00:35:49,270 Did not see him jump. 644 00:36:04,453 --> 00:36:05,669 - For me, he said he was just gonna 645 00:36:05,669 --> 00:36:08,316 go down so deep that even if he changed his mind, 646 00:36:08,316 --> 00:36:09,404 he couldn't swim to the top, 647 00:36:09,404 --> 00:36:12,725 but the coroner said it was over instantly. 648 00:36:19,914 --> 00:36:23,068 - Boy, imagine what this looks like to people. 649 00:36:23,068 --> 00:36:24,571 They probably look at us and say, 650 00:36:24,571 --> 00:36:26,404 "What kind of mother and father were they?" 651 00:36:26,404 --> 00:36:28,148 - Yeah. 652 00:36:28,148 --> 00:36:30,314 - I wasn't perfect. 653 00:36:30,314 --> 00:36:33,673 But, I mean, I don't think it was such a terrible mother. 654 00:36:37,293 --> 00:36:40,740 And then I remember Sharon said to me, 655 00:36:40,740 --> 00:36:43,608 "You know, it's not all about you. 656 00:36:43,608 --> 00:36:45,666 "It has nothing to do with you." 657 00:36:49,565 --> 00:36:52,487 - Yeah, I mean, I was raised in a family, dysfunctional-- 658 00:36:52,487 --> 00:36:54,119 - I mean, yeah, so was I. 659 00:36:54,119 --> 00:36:56,882 - My father was alcoholic, hers was alcoholic. 660 00:36:56,882 --> 00:36:58,967 They fought like cats and dogs, you know, 661 00:36:58,967 --> 00:37:02,629 and the abuse and I should be an alcoholic. 662 00:37:02,629 --> 00:37:04,829 I should be a serial killer, you know. 663 00:37:06,648 --> 00:37:09,721 You think you are raising your family to be 664 00:37:09,721 --> 00:37:12,340 religious or whatever and you try and do the best 665 00:37:12,340 --> 00:37:16,575 but you wind up doing more things that are harmful 666 00:37:16,575 --> 00:37:18,320 and then when you try and fix 'em, 667 00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:19,836 it might be too late. 668 00:37:21,773 --> 00:37:25,478 And it's like, well, no matter what you do good or bad, 669 00:37:25,478 --> 00:37:27,202 things are gonna happen. 670 00:37:29,070 --> 00:37:32,568 And he said, "If you and Mom, who I love, 671 00:37:32,568 --> 00:37:33,827 "are having problems, 672 00:37:33,827 --> 00:37:36,363 "what hope is there for me?" 673 00:37:36,363 --> 00:37:38,421 He says, "I think you love me the most 674 00:37:38,421 --> 00:37:40,910 "and tried your best," and he said, 675 00:37:40,910 --> 00:37:43,307 "If you're having problems, 676 00:37:43,307 --> 00:37:45,530 "there's no way I can make it." 677 00:37:55,283 --> 00:37:57,033 - Yeah. 678 00:37:57,033 --> 00:37:59,493 Took a lot of pictures while he was on the bridge. 679 00:37:59,493 --> 00:38:00,776 - Yeah. 680 00:38:02,755 --> 00:38:05,667 - He wanted to show what he was seeing. 681 00:38:06,777 --> 00:38:08,332 What he was feeling. 682 00:40:23,357 --> 00:40:26,098 - I was taking pictures of Alcatraz at the time, 683 00:40:26,098 --> 00:40:27,581 and while I was taking the picture, 684 00:40:27,581 --> 00:40:29,255 I saw like out of the corner of my eye 685 00:40:29,255 --> 00:40:33,364 a girl walking by and she climbed over the rail, 686 00:40:33,364 --> 00:40:35,004 and she did it so smoothly. 687 00:40:35,004 --> 00:40:37,231 It was almost like she was going to a little, 688 00:40:37,231 --> 00:40:39,489 like she had her own little clubhouse. 689 00:40:39,489 --> 00:40:40,769 I don't know, like she was going to 690 00:40:40,769 --> 00:40:43,296 sit on the ledge to like eat lunch. 691 00:40:46,406 --> 00:40:50,214 So I got a couple pictures of her climbing over, 692 00:40:50,214 --> 00:40:51,611 and then I started taking pictures 693 00:40:51,611 --> 00:40:54,139 of her standing on a ledge and I realized that 694 00:40:54,139 --> 00:40:56,953 this girl's about to jump, 695 00:40:56,953 --> 00:40:58,834 but when I was behind the camera, 696 00:40:58,834 --> 00:41:00,622 it was almost like it wasn't real 697 00:41:00,622 --> 00:41:02,765 'cause I was looking through the lens. 698 00:41:04,979 --> 00:41:08,413 I was actually like, I guess I was waiting for her to jump 699 00:41:08,413 --> 00:41:10,088 'cause I thought there's nothing I can do. 700 00:41:10,088 --> 00:41:11,392 It was too late. 701 00:41:16,688 --> 00:41:18,501 Earlier, I was actually staring down 702 00:41:18,501 --> 00:41:20,880 at the ledge at a couple different points on the bridge 703 00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:23,642 and I was just trying to think to myself 704 00:41:23,642 --> 00:41:25,918 what goes through people's minds 705 00:41:25,918 --> 00:41:27,202 whenever they're standing on that ledge 706 00:41:27,202 --> 00:41:28,685 and they're about to jump off, 707 00:41:28,685 --> 00:41:31,330 like what's the last thing that they're thinking of? 708 00:41:31,330 --> 00:41:33,101 Or, like, are they thinking anything at all? 709 00:41:33,101 --> 00:41:35,671 They just had enough and they just go 710 00:41:35,671 --> 00:41:38,766 and that's it, they're gone. 711 00:41:46,209 --> 00:41:48,558 I started yelling out to the girl, 712 00:41:48,558 --> 00:41:50,898 asking her what was wrong. 713 00:41:50,898 --> 00:41:53,909 She seemed to be speaking in a different language, 714 00:41:53,909 --> 00:41:55,791 and basically like tuning me out, 715 00:41:55,791 --> 00:41:59,106 like really not thinking about what I was saying. 716 00:42:00,596 --> 00:42:04,443 So I got up on the rail and I reached out 717 00:42:04,443 --> 00:42:06,336 and I really didn't know I was gonna be able 718 00:42:06,336 --> 00:42:07,914 to grab the back of her jacket, 719 00:42:07,914 --> 00:42:12,230 but once I grabbed it, I just lifted her over the rail 720 00:42:12,230 --> 00:42:14,322 and got her down on the ground. 721 00:42:14,322 --> 00:42:16,806 She started to fight me a little bit, 722 00:42:16,806 --> 00:42:21,330 so I just sat on her chest and just called 911 723 00:42:21,330 --> 00:42:24,253 and they were probably there within a couple minutes. 724 00:42:30,211 --> 00:42:32,717 As crazy as it sounds, I think of myself like 725 00:42:32,717 --> 00:42:36,246 a National Geographic photographer must feel 726 00:42:36,246 --> 00:42:38,475 and he's behind the camera filming 727 00:42:38,475 --> 00:42:40,988 and there's like a big tiger that's running at him 728 00:42:40,988 --> 00:42:43,208 and he's like, you know, "This footage is so great." 729 00:42:43,208 --> 00:42:46,767 He forgets that in a couple seconds 730 00:42:46,767 --> 00:42:49,530 that tiger's gonna be on top of him, 731 00:42:49,530 --> 00:42:53,164 but it's like you're in that camera, you're just behind 732 00:42:53,164 --> 00:42:55,439 and you don't really think about what's going on 733 00:42:55,439 --> 00:42:57,580 and that's where I had to separate 734 00:42:57,580 --> 00:43:00,855 or I had to actually get out of that mode of thinking 735 00:43:00,855 --> 00:43:04,870 and actually act on it and do something to help her. 736 00:43:08,214 --> 00:43:09,974 After I left the bridge patrol, 737 00:43:09,974 --> 00:43:12,278 I was going back to my vehicle 738 00:43:12,278 --> 00:43:13,956 and I happened to look over 739 00:43:13,956 --> 00:43:16,252 and it kinda looked like she turned back 740 00:43:16,252 --> 00:43:18,830 and she looked right at me 741 00:43:18,830 --> 00:43:21,579 and it freaked me out for a second. 742 00:43:21,579 --> 00:43:25,004 I just didn't expect her to look back now. 743 00:43:25,004 --> 00:43:27,764 I don't know if she actually saw me and 744 00:43:27,764 --> 00:43:30,452 was thinking, like, this son of a bitch, 745 00:43:30,452 --> 00:43:34,904 you know, I wanted to jump or whatever it was that 746 00:43:36,244 --> 00:43:38,141 that she was thinking. 747 00:43:41,208 --> 00:43:43,181 I'm sure that in some way 748 00:43:43,181 --> 00:43:44,920 that she did want to be rescued 749 00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:48,565 because if she really wanted to commit suicide 750 00:43:48,565 --> 00:43:52,255 and just take that basically ultimate shortcut 751 00:43:52,255 --> 00:43:55,295 to the next level, then she would've just 752 00:43:55,295 --> 00:43:58,409 climbed over and just jumped right off. 753 00:43:58,409 --> 00:44:01,055 So I think that she was sort of 754 00:44:01,055 --> 00:44:03,250 crying out for help there a little bit. 755 00:44:04,604 --> 00:44:06,599 The police did tell me that she was involved 756 00:44:06,599 --> 00:44:09,350 in another incident on the bridge and 757 00:44:09,350 --> 00:44:12,367 they talked her out of it, 758 00:44:12,367 --> 00:44:15,560 and I just hope that she's doing okay. 759 00:44:51,475 --> 00:44:54,539 - Gene had a lot riding on this relationship 760 00:44:54,539 --> 00:44:56,333 and he wanted to get out of California 761 00:44:56,333 --> 00:44:58,424 and he felt that it was gonna be like 762 00:44:58,424 --> 00:45:02,289 a new beginning and I think he had 763 00:45:02,289 --> 00:45:05,651 it planned out in his head how it was gonna happen 764 00:45:05,651 --> 00:45:06,735 and then when he got there, 765 00:45:06,735 --> 00:45:08,964 the reality wasn't quite the same 766 00:45:08,964 --> 00:45:10,500 as what was in his head. 767 00:45:10,500 --> 00:45:13,323 - Yeah, I think he was chasing 768 00:45:13,323 --> 00:45:15,769 a certain magical wonderland 769 00:45:15,769 --> 00:45:17,646 that would make all his problems go away 770 00:45:17,646 --> 00:45:21,475 and making excuses as to why he couldn't find it here, 771 00:45:21,475 --> 00:45:23,822 expecting to find it somewhere else. 772 00:45:23,822 --> 00:45:25,966 He just wanted to make it happen so bad 773 00:45:25,966 --> 00:45:28,042 so that's why he went in St. Louis. 774 00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:34,256 - Only love, really love, 775 00:45:34,256 --> 00:45:37,338 feeling like he was loved and in love 776 00:45:37,338 --> 00:45:39,004 was gonna save him. 777 00:45:42,498 --> 00:45:45,697 And who's to say that this is not a genetic thing? 778 00:45:45,697 --> 00:45:47,628 Who's to say that that wasn't the reason 779 00:45:47,628 --> 00:45:49,548 his mother chose to have this child 780 00:45:49,548 --> 00:45:51,756 because she, too, was depressed 781 00:45:51,756 --> 00:45:56,054 and knew that she could keep herself here 782 00:45:56,054 --> 00:45:59,489 and functional if she had a commitment? 783 00:45:59,489 --> 00:46:04,234 And how do we know that it wasn't at some 784 00:46:05,974 --> 00:46:09,957 inner level that he perceived this very young 785 00:46:09,957 --> 00:46:12,990 and that it colored his needs 786 00:46:12,990 --> 00:46:16,719 to have someone depend on him? 787 00:46:17,826 --> 00:46:19,099 I don't know. 788 00:46:57,648 --> 00:46:59,322 - The ideas of suicide, 789 00:46:59,322 --> 00:47:02,160 if I'm completely honest with myself, 790 00:47:02,160 --> 00:47:04,389 have been there for a long, long time. 791 00:47:04,389 --> 00:47:07,181 Years, way before I was diagnosed, 792 00:47:07,181 --> 00:47:08,543 but it was just touching on it, 793 00:47:08,543 --> 00:47:11,306 like, you know, oh, I'll just kill myself. 794 00:47:11,306 --> 00:47:15,226 But the real thought process of actually going to do it 795 00:47:15,226 --> 00:47:19,159 and commit the act started 796 00:47:19,159 --> 00:47:21,665 I'd say about '99 797 00:47:21,665 --> 00:47:24,524 and that's when I cut my wrist. 798 00:47:24,524 --> 00:47:26,932 - At the end of his junior year in high school, 799 00:47:26,932 --> 00:47:29,183 he had huge mood swings, 800 00:47:29,183 --> 00:47:32,553 and during his senior year, 801 00:47:32,553 --> 00:47:36,521 they were just compelling. 802 00:47:36,521 --> 00:47:38,964 I mean, he was constantly 803 00:47:38,964 --> 00:47:41,554 either very high or very low. 804 00:47:41,554 --> 00:47:43,228 That was really the fight. 805 00:47:43,228 --> 00:47:45,274 That's when Kevin was at his worst. 806 00:47:45,274 --> 00:47:47,962 There were times where he couldn't even speak 807 00:47:47,962 --> 00:47:51,447 and there were times where he wouldn't stop speaking. 808 00:47:51,447 --> 00:47:52,769 - I was hallucinating 809 00:47:52,769 --> 00:47:56,507 and I had made the assumption that 810 00:47:58,327 --> 00:48:00,923 there were bugs in my bed and stuff 811 00:48:00,923 --> 00:48:03,195 and they were like stuff that were giving me AIDS 812 00:48:03,195 --> 00:48:04,848 and stuff like that 813 00:48:04,848 --> 00:48:08,560 and I was just completely off the wall. 814 00:48:08,560 --> 00:48:11,444 I hadn't been sexually active for years, 815 00:48:11,444 --> 00:48:15,568 yet I thought I had AIDS and it was like 816 00:48:15,568 --> 00:48:18,635 it was all in my head and 817 00:48:18,635 --> 00:48:21,755 I sprayed my bed sheets with a disinfectant, 818 00:48:21,755 --> 00:48:24,207 like a deodorizer or something like that 819 00:48:24,207 --> 00:48:25,873 but I sprayed my bed sheets, you know, 820 00:48:25,873 --> 00:48:28,592 I sleep in that, I inhaled in all night long, 821 00:48:28,592 --> 00:48:29,680 which caused the hallucinations 822 00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:31,723 to become greater and greater 823 00:48:31,723 --> 00:48:36,293 and so I got up out of bed, sat at my desk, 824 00:48:36,293 --> 00:48:41,139 and I must have written five versions of my suicide letter 825 00:48:41,139 --> 00:48:43,346 until I realized these are mean, 826 00:48:43,346 --> 00:48:45,544 I can't write them like this, so I wrote a real nice one 827 00:48:45,544 --> 00:48:47,013 or so my thought was nice, I mean, 828 00:48:47,013 --> 00:48:49,277 it's a suicide letter, you know, 829 00:48:49,277 --> 00:48:53,523 and I guess it said something like, 830 00:48:53,523 --> 00:48:55,831 "Mom, you're not always right. 831 00:48:55,831 --> 00:48:57,644 "Don't think you are, but I love you. 832 00:48:57,644 --> 00:48:59,479 "Dad, stop being so mean. 833 00:48:59,479 --> 00:49:00,993 "You're hurting people." 834 00:49:00,993 --> 00:49:03,846 - He had a terrible episode and 835 00:49:05,313 --> 00:49:10,182 there was no comment with regard to suicide. 836 00:49:10,182 --> 00:49:13,622 It was a commentary with regard to 837 00:49:13,622 --> 00:49:17,734 hearing voices and difficulty 838 00:49:17,734 --> 00:49:21,974 remaining under control, 839 00:49:21,974 --> 00:49:24,654 and I called his psychiatrist 840 00:49:24,654 --> 00:49:29,338 the Sunday night prior and had a conversation with him 841 00:49:29,338 --> 00:49:30,856 and the psychiatrist told me, 842 00:49:30,856 --> 00:49:31,837 "No, don't worry about it. 843 00:49:31,837 --> 00:49:34,989 "Everything's gonna be fine." 844 00:49:34,989 --> 00:49:36,573 And then Kevin and I stayed up 845 00:49:36,573 --> 00:49:39,453 and we chatted about it and he seemed to be 846 00:49:39,453 --> 00:49:42,354 fine, almost completely calmed. 847 00:49:42,354 --> 00:49:44,743 - Our conversations go like this when he's mad at me. 848 00:49:44,743 --> 00:49:47,855 He tells me to sit down in my chair 849 00:49:47,855 --> 00:49:49,877 and he basically yells at me. 850 00:49:54,337 --> 00:49:57,677 I told him that I don't wanna, I said, 851 00:49:59,407 --> 00:50:01,216 "I don't wanna hurt anybody anymore. 852 00:50:01,216 --> 00:50:02,517 "I have to go away." 853 00:50:02,517 --> 00:50:04,096 Or something like that, and he said, 854 00:50:04,096 --> 00:50:05,258 "You have an obligation 855 00:50:05,258 --> 00:50:06,815 "to stay here for your family. 856 00:50:06,815 --> 00:50:08,234 "You have an obligation to me 857 00:50:08,234 --> 00:50:11,025 "who raised you, given you everything you want. 858 00:50:11,025 --> 00:50:11,733 "You have an obligation 859 00:50:11,733 --> 00:50:13,226 "to live for your brother, your sister," 860 00:50:13,226 --> 00:50:14,938 but he was mad the whole time. 861 00:50:14,938 --> 00:50:15,818 So I said, "All right, all right, all right, 862 00:50:15,818 --> 00:50:17,034 "I'm not gonna do anything, Dad. 863 00:50:17,034 --> 00:50:18,217 "Don't worry, don't worry." 864 00:50:18,217 --> 00:50:19,401 And he was like, "Do I have to take you to the hospital?" 865 00:50:19,401 --> 00:50:20,843 You know, or something like that. 866 00:50:20,843 --> 00:50:22,079 I was like, "No, no, no, no, 867 00:50:22,079 --> 00:50:23,604 "it's all right, it's all right." 868 00:50:23,604 --> 00:50:24,436 I said, "Let me just sleep on it 869 00:50:24,436 --> 00:50:26,036 "and we'll talk about it in the morning, okay? 870 00:50:26,036 --> 00:50:28,361 "I'm really tired, Dad, I'm really tired." 871 00:50:28,361 --> 00:50:30,686 So he woke me up the next morning 872 00:50:30,686 --> 00:50:34,430 about 7 o'clock 'cause I got maybe like two hours of sleep, 873 00:50:34,430 --> 00:50:36,842 and he woke me up and he said, 874 00:50:36,842 --> 00:50:39,443 "Hey, you're coming to work with me." 875 00:50:39,443 --> 00:50:40,541 I was like, "No." 876 00:50:40,541 --> 00:50:42,419 He's like, "No, come on, I'm worried about you. 877 00:50:42,419 --> 00:50:43,251 "I'm really worried about you." 878 00:50:43,251 --> 00:50:45,362 I was like, "Dad, I'm fine," 879 00:50:45,362 --> 00:50:47,350 the entire time lying through my teeth 880 00:50:47,350 --> 00:50:49,362 because I knew I was gonna go to the bridge and jump. 881 00:50:54,767 --> 00:50:56,953 - So, listen, why don't I take the day off? 882 00:50:56,953 --> 00:51:00,105 And we'll go do something and he said, "Nope. 883 00:51:00,105 --> 00:51:01,703 "I'd rather go to school." 884 00:51:03,564 --> 00:51:05,815 - I kiss him goodbye on the cheek 885 00:51:05,815 --> 00:51:07,298 and I was like, all right, this is the last time 886 00:51:07,298 --> 00:51:09,876 I'm ever gonna kiss my daddy goodbye, you know. 887 00:51:09,876 --> 00:51:11,871 I'll never see him again. 888 00:51:11,871 --> 00:51:14,335 And he'll never see me. 889 00:51:14,335 --> 00:51:16,148 And I went to my English class, 890 00:51:16,148 --> 00:51:17,652 dropped all my other classes. 891 00:51:17,652 --> 00:51:21,403 I took the K out to the 28 to the 29th out to the bridge, 892 00:51:21,403 --> 00:51:24,774 and the whole time I was just bawling my eyes out, 893 00:51:24,774 --> 00:51:27,088 just crying, 894 00:51:27,088 --> 00:51:28,848 talking to myself on the bus. 895 00:51:31,427 --> 00:51:33,422 I had stopped, before I got on the 28, 896 00:51:33,422 --> 00:51:34,883 I had stopped at Walgreens 897 00:51:34,883 --> 00:51:37,070 and I bought my last meal, 898 00:51:37,070 --> 00:51:39,803 Starburst and Skittles. 899 00:51:41,622 --> 00:51:42,704 And 900 00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:46,096 went out to the bridge. 901 00:51:48,043 --> 00:51:49,853 Found a place that I thought, all right, 902 00:51:49,853 --> 00:51:51,989 it's not too close to the pillar, I won't hit the pillar, 903 00:51:51,989 --> 00:51:53,152 I'll just hit the water. 904 00:51:53,152 --> 00:51:54,933 I'll either drown or die on impact 905 00:51:54,933 --> 00:51:57,064 or I'll have a heart attack. 906 00:51:57,064 --> 00:52:00,135 So I got there, 907 00:52:00,135 --> 00:52:03,326 stood there for like 40 minutes at that spot, 908 00:52:03,326 --> 00:52:05,540 just crying my eyes out. 909 00:52:05,540 --> 00:52:07,929 Joggers, bikers, runners, tourists, whatever 910 00:52:07,929 --> 00:52:09,975 running by and walking by 911 00:52:09,975 --> 00:52:12,502 looking at me, didn't say anything. 912 00:52:12,502 --> 00:52:15,564 It's not their part, it's not their problem, but anyway, 913 00:52:15,564 --> 00:52:18,699 and this woman, she came up to me. 914 00:52:18,699 --> 00:52:20,001 She said in a German accent, 915 00:52:20,001 --> 00:52:20,865 I think it was a German accent, 916 00:52:20,865 --> 00:52:23,597 she said, "Will you take my picture?" 917 00:52:25,267 --> 00:52:26,941 I was like, your picture? 918 00:52:26,941 --> 00:52:28,147 I mean, I'm gonna kill myself, 919 00:52:28,147 --> 00:52:30,514 what is wrong with you? 920 00:52:30,514 --> 00:52:32,125 Can't you see the tears pouring out of my face? 921 00:52:32,125 --> 00:52:33,725 But she couldn't. 922 00:52:33,725 --> 00:52:35,719 She was on her own hype. 923 00:52:35,719 --> 00:52:38,083 So I took the camera, I took her picture, 924 00:52:38,083 --> 00:52:40,504 said, "Miss, have a nice day," 925 00:52:40,504 --> 00:52:42,499 turned back to the traffic, 926 00:52:42,499 --> 00:52:45,220 turned to the bay, said, "Fuck it, nobody cares." 927 00:52:45,220 --> 00:52:46,639 Pardon my French. 928 00:52:46,639 --> 00:52:48,856 And I hurled over the bridge. 929 00:53:08,834 --> 00:53:10,828 See, what most people do, apparently, 930 00:53:10,828 --> 00:53:13,079 is they get on the ledge outside of the bridge 931 00:53:13,079 --> 00:53:14,615 and they stand there. 932 00:53:14,615 --> 00:53:15,500 People can talk them out of it 933 00:53:15,500 --> 00:53:17,473 or pull them up or whatever. 934 00:53:17,473 --> 00:53:20,001 I didn't want anybody to talk me out of it. 935 00:53:20,001 --> 00:53:21,878 I just wanted to die. 936 00:53:21,878 --> 00:53:24,929 So I hurtled over the railing with my hands 937 00:53:24,929 --> 00:53:26,667 and I was falling headfirst 938 00:53:26,667 --> 00:53:31,328 and the second my hands left the bar or the railing, 939 00:53:31,328 --> 00:53:33,216 I said, "I don't wanna die." 940 00:53:33,216 --> 00:53:34,656 I said, "What am I gonna do? 941 00:53:34,656 --> 00:53:35,926 "This is like, this is it. 942 00:53:35,926 --> 00:53:36,994 "I'm dead." 943 00:53:37,971 --> 00:53:41,224 So I said, "Well, maybe if I get feet first, 944 00:53:41,224 --> 00:53:43,314 "maybe, maybe I'll live." 945 00:53:43,314 --> 00:53:44,415 So I thought, 946 00:53:46,159 --> 00:53:48,719 "All right, it's worth a shot." 947 00:53:48,719 --> 00:53:50,138 So my head was falling like this, 948 00:53:50,138 --> 00:53:51,577 and I pushed myself back somehow 949 00:53:51,577 --> 00:53:54,397 and I landed literally like I was sitting down, 950 00:53:54,397 --> 00:53:58,375 kinda maybe a little more elevated with the legs, 951 00:53:58,375 --> 00:54:01,756 and I hit with my feet, 952 00:54:01,756 --> 00:54:04,377 and I guess the water treaded through my boots a little bit, 953 00:54:04,377 --> 00:54:06,489 so maybe helped the impact, 954 00:54:06,489 --> 00:54:08,697 and the boots are pretty tough so, 955 00:54:08,697 --> 00:54:12,444 and I went down about I'd say 40, 50 feet. 956 00:54:14,164 --> 00:54:16,221 Didn't know which way was up or down. 957 00:54:16,221 --> 00:54:18,845 I thought, "Am I still alive?" 958 00:54:18,845 --> 00:54:22,122 'Cause it's like a four to seven second fall. 959 00:54:22,122 --> 00:54:25,401 It's like 120 miles per hour. 960 00:54:27,231 --> 00:54:30,410 I think that's like seven seconds below terminal velocity 961 00:54:30,410 --> 00:54:33,876 or like the velocity downslope skiers get. 962 00:54:38,146 --> 00:54:39,732 I was awake. 963 00:54:39,732 --> 00:54:41,652 I was alive. 964 00:54:41,652 --> 00:54:43,540 I was swimming my butt off to get somewhere 965 00:54:43,540 --> 00:54:45,577 where there was air. 966 00:54:45,577 --> 00:54:47,529 So I reached the surface, I guess, 967 00:54:47,529 --> 00:54:50,150 because I saw some sort of light, 968 00:54:50,150 --> 00:54:51,430 and I was screaming for help 969 00:54:51,430 --> 00:54:52,294 and I couldn't really scream. 970 00:54:52,294 --> 00:54:53,286 My voice was gone. 971 00:54:53,286 --> 00:54:54,982 I couldn't yell. 972 00:54:54,982 --> 00:54:56,859 I was like, "Help. 973 00:54:56,859 --> 00:54:57,789 "Help me." 974 00:54:59,534 --> 00:55:04,429 And I felt something brush by my leg. 975 00:55:04,429 --> 00:55:06,677 I was like, "Oh, great. 976 00:55:06,677 --> 00:55:08,810 "I didn't die jumping off the Golden Gate Bridge. 977 00:55:08,810 --> 00:55:10,953 "A shark is going to eat me." 978 00:55:10,953 --> 00:55:13,549 I was like, "This is ridiculous." 979 00:55:13,549 --> 00:55:15,390 Years later, I found out, 980 00:55:15,390 --> 00:55:16,574 as a matter of fact, last year I found out 981 00:55:16,574 --> 00:55:18,366 it wasn't a shark. 982 00:55:18,366 --> 00:55:19,731 It was a seal circling me 983 00:55:19,731 --> 00:55:23,518 and apparently it was the only thing keeping me afloat. 984 00:55:23,518 --> 00:55:26,792 And you cannot tell me that wasn't God 985 00:55:26,792 --> 00:55:28,275 'cause that's what I believe 986 00:55:28,275 --> 00:55:30,320 and that's what I'll believe till the day I die. 987 00:55:53,334 --> 00:55:55,499 - I was sitting my office 988 00:55:55,499 --> 00:55:58,702 and a secretary 989 00:55:58,702 --> 00:56:02,476 said that, "There's someone on the line for you 990 00:56:02,476 --> 00:56:04,736 "from Marin General Hospital." 991 00:56:06,291 --> 00:56:09,373 So I picked up the phone and a woman said, 992 00:56:09,373 --> 00:56:11,112 "Is this Pat Hines?" 993 00:56:11,112 --> 00:56:12,349 I said, "Yes." 994 00:56:12,349 --> 00:56:14,503 She said, "Your son has just jumped 995 00:56:14,503 --> 00:56:16,681 "from the Golden Gate Bridge." 996 00:56:18,425 --> 00:56:20,676 I lived here all my life. 997 00:56:20,676 --> 00:56:23,183 I know what that means, 998 00:56:23,183 --> 00:56:26,455 and I said, "Is he alive?" 999 00:56:26,455 --> 00:56:29,686 And she said, "Oh, he is." 1000 00:56:29,686 --> 00:56:32,033 And I thought 1001 00:56:32,033 --> 00:56:36,043 that they probably told me that just to keep me calm 1002 00:56:36,043 --> 00:56:39,200 so that I wouldn't wreck my car 1003 00:56:39,200 --> 00:56:42,432 driving over to see his mangled body. 1004 00:57:07,109 --> 00:57:10,618 - I shattered my T12 and my L1, 1005 00:57:10,618 --> 00:57:13,658 which is my lower lumbar region 1006 00:57:13,658 --> 00:57:16,485 into very, very tiny little pieces 1007 00:57:16,485 --> 00:57:19,790 and the pieces went into my organs, 1008 00:57:19,790 --> 00:57:21,410 but they missed my heart. 1009 00:57:21,410 --> 00:57:24,567 - At this point in time, I still thought he would be dead. 1010 00:57:24,567 --> 00:57:27,746 So I went up to this gurney and I looked down 1011 00:57:27,746 --> 00:57:30,743 and he was wide awake and he looked up at me 1012 00:57:30,743 --> 00:57:34,379 and he said, "I'm sorry." 1013 00:57:34,379 --> 00:57:38,265 And then he just closed his eyes and 1014 00:57:38,265 --> 00:57:39,873 I just stood there staring at him 1015 00:57:39,873 --> 00:57:43,373 and he was, by that point in time, in a coma. 1016 00:57:45,352 --> 00:57:47,166 - It was just super scary, you know? 1017 00:57:47,166 --> 00:57:49,555 I mean, I can't explain it. 1018 00:57:51,655 --> 00:57:53,293 To feel it would be like... 1019 00:57:55,667 --> 00:57:58,333 like feeling an alien jumping out of your body 1020 00:57:58,333 --> 00:57:59,432 or something, you know, 1021 00:57:59,432 --> 00:58:01,288 like your soul or whatever. 1022 00:58:01,288 --> 00:58:05,943 It was ridiculous, scary, just really wild. 1023 00:58:21,776 --> 00:58:25,819 - 2004 was a tough year for Kevin. 1024 00:58:25,819 --> 00:58:27,440 It hasn't been a cakewalk. 1025 00:58:27,440 --> 00:58:30,128 Kevin's been visited by 1026 00:58:30,128 --> 00:58:33,849 extreme mental illness three times subsequent 1027 00:58:33,849 --> 00:58:36,495 to his jump off the bridge. 1028 00:58:36,495 --> 00:58:38,650 The most recent, he was confined 1029 00:58:38,650 --> 00:58:40,858 for almost three months 1030 00:58:40,858 --> 00:58:44,388 while he struggled and his doctors struggled 1031 00:58:44,388 --> 00:58:48,409 to get his bipolar bracketed in, 1032 00:58:48,409 --> 00:58:51,033 and it's a matter of diet, 1033 00:58:51,033 --> 00:58:52,377 it's a matter of consistency, 1034 00:58:52,377 --> 00:58:56,047 and it's a matter of proper drug therapy. 1035 00:58:56,047 --> 00:59:00,038 Kevin will begin to 1036 00:59:00,038 --> 00:59:01,692 make headway. 1037 00:59:01,692 --> 00:59:03,270 His life will gain traction, 1038 00:59:03,270 --> 00:59:06,385 and then he begins to get outside of the brackets 1039 00:59:06,385 --> 00:59:08,752 into which he can function, 1040 00:59:08,752 --> 00:59:13,485 and unfortunately, it has taken three times now 1041 00:59:13,485 --> 00:59:17,793 outside, in those outside areas to convince him, 1042 00:59:17,793 --> 00:59:19,553 prove to him more importantly, 1043 00:59:19,553 --> 00:59:21,132 that he can't go there, 1044 00:59:21,132 --> 00:59:24,684 and unfortunately for Kevin, 1045 00:59:24,684 --> 00:59:26,795 it's get up at 8 o'clock in the morning, 1046 00:59:26,795 --> 00:59:29,823 take your pills at eight, have lunch at noon, 1047 00:59:29,823 --> 00:59:34,142 if you will, dinner at six, 1048 00:59:34,142 --> 00:59:36,947 pills at nine, bed at 10, 1049 00:59:36,947 --> 00:59:39,454 and that's a very, very difficult existence 1050 00:59:39,454 --> 00:59:43,475 for a 24 year old male in this society. 1051 00:59:52,301 --> 00:59:53,922 But I've told him, 1052 00:59:53,922 --> 00:59:55,694 "It's a wonderful disease to have, Kev, 1053 00:59:55,694 --> 00:59:57,507 "because you can control it. 1054 00:59:57,507 --> 00:59:59,544 "If you had cancer, 1055 00:59:59,544 --> 01:00:01,474 "you wouldn't have the same opportunity. 1056 01:00:01,474 --> 01:00:03,704 "Unlike cancer, Kevin, as long as you stay 1057 01:00:03,704 --> 01:00:05,677 "within these bands, you've got it. 1058 01:00:05,677 --> 01:00:07,021 "It doesn't have you." 1059 01:00:07,021 --> 01:00:08,045 - It's funny, my family members 1060 01:00:08,045 --> 01:00:10,391 still think I haven't learned my lesson, 1061 01:00:10,391 --> 01:00:13,239 but the lesson was learned a long time ago, 1062 01:00:13,239 --> 01:00:16,438 and, you know, 1063 01:00:18,065 --> 01:00:19,414 it's hard when 1064 01:00:20,860 --> 01:00:23,366 you keep messing up, 1065 01:00:23,366 --> 01:00:26,777 and no one in your family believes in you anymore 1066 01:00:26,777 --> 01:00:28,846 or trusts you, 1067 01:00:28,846 --> 01:00:31,214 whether they're scared you're gonna go attempt again 1068 01:00:31,214 --> 01:00:33,273 and they're always worried, walking on eggshells 1069 01:00:33,273 --> 01:00:36,129 when they talk to you. 1070 01:00:36,129 --> 01:00:38,059 It sucks. 1071 01:00:38,059 --> 01:00:38,934 So I'm tired of that. 1072 01:00:38,934 --> 01:00:39,841 I just want them to say, 1073 01:00:39,841 --> 01:00:41,633 "Hey, Kev, what's cracking, man?" 1074 01:00:43,963 --> 01:00:45,771 Just be real about it. 1075 01:00:45,771 --> 01:00:48,448 Don't walk on eggshells around me. 1076 01:00:48,448 --> 01:00:50,699 I'm the same guy, 1077 01:00:50,699 --> 01:00:55,157 just different soul, you know, 1078 01:00:55,157 --> 01:00:56,672 different ideals. 1079 01:01:04,424 --> 01:01:07,762 I just wanna be normal again, 1080 01:01:07,762 --> 01:01:09,351 but I never will be. 1081 01:01:48,266 --> 01:01:50,549 - We started using crystal meth, 1082 01:01:50,549 --> 01:01:54,261 and, you know, using crystal just, 1083 01:01:54,261 --> 01:01:57,236 everything starting going down the toilet. 1084 01:01:57,236 --> 01:02:00,159 She lost her job, I lost my job. 1085 01:02:00,159 --> 01:02:02,100 We ended up becoming homeless. 1086 01:02:05,839 --> 01:02:09,679 She has a little easier time letting go of drugs than I do. 1087 01:02:09,679 --> 01:02:12,599 I have a very addictive personality, 1088 01:02:12,599 --> 01:02:13,441 and 1089 01:02:15,148 --> 01:02:16,684 just found out last week 1090 01:02:16,684 --> 01:02:19,654 that she's been cheating on me again. 1091 01:02:25,366 --> 01:02:26,529 So I picked up my son. 1092 01:02:26,529 --> 01:02:29,942 I gave him a hug and kiss and said goodbye, 1093 01:02:29,942 --> 01:02:32,139 and told her to F off. 1094 01:02:33,862 --> 01:02:36,195 And then I found myself just walking 1095 01:02:36,195 --> 01:02:39,075 toward the Golden Gate Bridge. 1096 01:02:39,075 --> 01:02:41,373 I was crying the whole way, you know. 1097 01:02:42,753 --> 01:02:46,827 Only thing I kept saying was, you know, 1098 01:02:46,827 --> 01:02:50,240 "As I walk in the valley of the shadow of death, 1099 01:02:50,240 --> 01:02:53,183 "I shall not fear a thing 'cause God's with me." 1100 01:02:56,719 --> 01:02:58,554 So when I got to the halfway point on the bridge, 1101 01:02:58,554 --> 01:03:02,322 I set my book down and I jumped over onto the railing. 1102 01:03:07,572 --> 01:03:11,775 And I just sat there, crying and thinking for a little bit, 1103 01:03:11,775 --> 01:03:14,313 and the cops showed up. 1104 01:03:14,313 --> 01:03:16,510 I made the mistake of letting them 1105 01:03:16,510 --> 01:03:18,630 get to know me too well 1106 01:03:18,630 --> 01:03:21,973 'cause they completely used my son against me. 1107 01:03:29,219 --> 01:03:31,418 - Actually, I came to the bridge last year 1108 01:03:31,418 --> 01:03:34,442 at this time to do the same thing 1109 01:03:34,442 --> 01:03:36,650 and so it's not a new idea, 1110 01:03:36,650 --> 01:03:41,005 but kind of one that became a little obsessive, I suppose. 1111 01:03:44,626 --> 01:03:47,623 How I literally got here today was on an airplane 1112 01:03:47,623 --> 01:03:51,381 from Houston, Texas. 1113 01:03:51,381 --> 01:03:53,596 What drew me to it in spite of 1114 01:03:53,596 --> 01:03:56,037 having to do so much preparations is that 1115 01:03:56,037 --> 01:03:58,577 it is so accessible. 1116 01:03:58,577 --> 01:04:01,325 You just kinda hop over. 1117 01:04:01,325 --> 01:04:03,832 But, yeah, letting go, that's the tough part. 1118 01:04:11,818 --> 01:04:13,439 I don't know if people think about that a lot, 1119 01:04:13,439 --> 01:04:15,957 like the process that a person goes through 1120 01:04:15,957 --> 01:04:19,058 in trying to decide how to end their life. 1121 01:04:19,058 --> 01:04:21,191 It's like a search, it's like looking for 1122 01:04:21,191 --> 01:04:22,909 a college to attend or something, 1123 01:04:22,909 --> 01:04:25,124 you know, the pros and cons and 1124 01:04:25,124 --> 01:04:26,394 it's a destructive act, but there's 1125 01:04:26,394 --> 01:04:29,292 a lot of rational thought that goes into an act 1126 01:04:29,292 --> 01:04:32,204 that a lot of people just consider irrational. 1127 01:04:35,665 --> 01:04:38,641 In my bag, I had my parents' phone number 1128 01:04:38,641 --> 01:04:40,081 and I wanted them to know what happened 1129 01:04:40,081 --> 01:04:42,639 and not just be agonizing over what happened 1130 01:04:42,639 --> 01:04:45,917 to their daughter for a week or two. 1131 01:04:45,917 --> 01:04:48,391 So I wanted people just see me actually do it, 1132 01:04:48,391 --> 01:04:51,342 and I think I really did want somebody to say, "No, 1133 01:04:51,342 --> 01:04:52,541 "don't do it." 1134 01:05:07,509 --> 01:05:10,132 - When Gene called me 1135 01:05:10,132 --> 01:05:13,610 from St. Louis in despair 1136 01:05:13,610 --> 01:05:15,977 and was gonna jump off the bridge there, 1137 01:05:15,977 --> 01:05:18,676 he said, "I'm just calling to say goodbye. 1138 01:05:18,676 --> 01:05:20,731 "It's time." 1139 01:05:20,731 --> 01:05:22,740 What could I say to him? 1140 01:05:22,740 --> 01:05:25,445 You know, I had tried 1141 01:05:25,445 --> 01:05:28,563 on occasion to find something 1142 01:05:28,563 --> 01:05:31,376 that would encourage him to live, 1143 01:05:31,376 --> 01:05:33,363 something, 1144 01:05:33,363 --> 01:05:36,323 and I asked him again for a favor. 1145 01:05:36,323 --> 01:05:38,925 I said, "Put my name and phone number 1146 01:05:38,925 --> 01:05:42,068 "in a plastic bag in your pocket 1147 01:05:42,068 --> 01:05:45,301 "so that when you are found, 1148 01:05:45,301 --> 01:05:46,933 "I can be told. 1149 01:05:46,933 --> 01:05:48,244 "I need to know." 1150 01:05:51,802 --> 01:05:55,801 - He had called me from a bridge back there 1151 01:05:55,801 --> 01:05:56,399 and he was-- 1152 01:05:56,399 --> 01:05:58,329 - But he called me first from the train tracks 1153 01:05:58,329 --> 01:06:00,238 saying he was gonna lay his neck 1154 01:06:00,238 --> 01:06:02,266 across the train tracks and because he said 1155 01:06:02,266 --> 01:06:04,698 things like that all the time, 1156 01:06:04,698 --> 01:06:06,553 I didn't call him back 1157 01:06:06,553 --> 01:06:09,177 because I just didn't want to hear it. 1158 01:06:09,177 --> 01:06:12,142 You can only hear the same thing so many times 1159 01:06:12,142 --> 01:06:14,563 and give the same answer so many times. 1160 01:06:14,563 --> 01:06:15,789 You know, "Stop being stupid. 1161 01:06:15,789 --> 01:06:17,763 "Don't be ridiculous." 1162 01:06:17,763 --> 01:06:20,600 It gets tiring after awhile. 1163 01:06:20,600 --> 01:06:21,805 You wanna hear something different, 1164 01:06:21,805 --> 01:06:23,384 so I guess when I didn't call him back, 1165 01:06:23,384 --> 01:06:25,037 he went to the bridge. 1166 01:06:25,037 --> 01:06:27,010 - Yeah, he had made his way to a bridge. 1167 01:06:27,010 --> 01:06:28,707 He called me on my cell phone, 1168 01:06:28,707 --> 01:06:31,607 told me this relationship that he was pursuing 1169 01:06:31,607 --> 01:06:34,252 is all falling apart, so I kept him on the phone. 1170 01:06:34,252 --> 01:06:35,970 I was talking to him. 1171 01:06:35,970 --> 01:06:37,687 At one point in our conversation, 1172 01:06:37,687 --> 01:06:40,097 he said, "Oh, a cop's driving by." 1173 01:06:40,097 --> 01:06:42,659 And I actually heard the cop stop and ask him, 1174 01:06:42,659 --> 01:06:45,215 "Hey, you're not gonna jump, are ya?" 1175 01:06:45,215 --> 01:06:47,508 They asked him, "Is everything okay? 1176 01:06:47,508 --> 01:06:48,801 "Any problems?" 1177 01:06:48,801 --> 01:06:50,753 And he's like, "No, not really," 1178 01:06:50,753 --> 01:06:55,262 and they decided to leave him alone, 1179 01:06:55,262 --> 01:06:57,726 and that's when I said, "Look, 1180 01:06:57,726 --> 01:06:59,955 "I'm gonna get a ticket for you for the bus, 1181 01:06:59,955 --> 01:07:02,046 "and you're gonna come back to California," 1182 01:07:02,046 --> 01:07:04,339 and I convinced him to do that. 1183 01:07:39,150 --> 01:07:42,862 - David is very dramatic, boisterous, 1184 01:07:42,862 --> 01:07:44,814 a life of the party type, 1185 01:07:44,814 --> 01:07:47,629 playing the piano, singing, 1186 01:07:47,629 --> 01:07:48,864 you know, really Mr. Party, 1187 01:07:48,864 --> 01:07:50,496 which is very interesting because 1188 01:07:50,496 --> 01:07:52,277 I'm not that way at all, 1189 01:07:52,277 --> 01:07:54,784 and I think part of the reason he liked me 1190 01:07:54,784 --> 01:07:56,554 was that I didn't ask him to do that 1191 01:07:56,554 --> 01:08:00,168 or he didn't feel he had to do that around me. 1192 01:08:02,243 --> 01:08:04,216 - He was a handsome guy. 1193 01:08:04,216 --> 01:08:06,562 He was a good dresser, 1194 01:08:06,562 --> 01:08:08,610 and he just exuded this, 1195 01:08:08,610 --> 01:08:12,331 which is another reason why I guess it's so 1196 01:08:12,331 --> 01:08:16,959 shocking to me is that he just exuded this joy for life. 1197 01:08:27,673 --> 01:08:31,545 - Ruby was someone that I was always proud to pull in. 1198 01:08:31,545 --> 01:08:32,567 So when there's somebody new in my life 1199 01:08:32,567 --> 01:08:34,145 or I was dating somebody for awhile, 1200 01:08:34,145 --> 01:08:36,204 I wanna bring 'em over, you know. 1201 01:08:41,791 --> 01:08:44,713 - One of Jim's favorite things was when he'd see me, said, 1202 01:08:44,713 --> 01:08:45,854 "Oh, I met a new friend. 1203 01:08:45,854 --> 01:08:47,143 "You've got to meet this person. 1204 01:08:47,143 --> 01:08:49,058 "You've just gotta meant this person." 1205 01:08:49,058 --> 01:08:51,618 He had great delight in bringing people together. 1206 01:08:51,618 --> 01:08:54,712 He really loved people and 1207 01:08:57,142 --> 01:08:59,271 just very warm personality. 1208 01:09:00,411 --> 01:09:03,728 At least that's how he was in the beginning. 1209 01:09:17,444 --> 01:09:19,300 - Before six months ago, I would 1210 01:09:19,300 --> 01:09:21,508 never have said that I thought Ruby 1211 01:09:21,508 --> 01:09:24,068 had a significant depression problem. 1212 01:09:26,265 --> 01:09:30,105 I know that he was alone without a source of income. 1213 01:09:30,105 --> 01:09:32,910 I know his sister had killed herself. 1214 01:09:32,910 --> 01:09:36,163 I know he had all those variables. 1215 01:09:36,163 --> 01:09:39,160 Nothing before this last few months of his life 1216 01:09:39,160 --> 01:09:41,666 indicated to me that he was out of the range 1217 01:09:41,666 --> 01:09:43,085 of the normal ups and downs 1218 01:09:43,085 --> 01:09:47,467 that we just don't share all the time. 1219 01:09:47,467 --> 01:09:49,482 - David came over to Charlie's 1220 01:09:49,482 --> 01:09:52,064 to have dinner with us 1221 01:09:52,064 --> 01:09:54,367 and that's when he told us for the first time 1222 01:09:54,367 --> 01:09:56,309 he was seriously on medication, 1223 01:09:56,309 --> 01:09:58,689 but up until that point 1224 01:09:58,689 --> 01:10:02,004 apparently he had been self-medicating with alcohol 1225 01:10:02,004 --> 01:10:04,774 and although I knew him for nine years, 1226 01:10:06,290 --> 01:10:10,474 I could count on maybe, 1227 01:10:10,474 --> 01:10:13,371 maybe two times that I see him really drunk. 1228 01:10:16,171 --> 01:10:18,283 - David would, every so often, determine 1229 01:10:18,283 --> 01:10:19,925 that he had to get his life back together 1230 01:10:19,925 --> 01:10:22,944 or he would be confronted by me or other friends 1231 01:10:22,944 --> 01:10:25,013 and start treatment. 1232 01:10:25,013 --> 01:10:27,914 He took antidepressants for a month and a half or so 1233 01:10:27,914 --> 01:10:29,685 and made a big show of it, 1234 01:10:29,685 --> 01:10:32,053 but then in the end I arranged a label 1235 01:10:32,053 --> 01:10:34,663 so that I could see if he'd been picking the bottles up 1236 01:10:34,663 --> 01:10:36,807 and he hadn't touched them. 1237 01:10:36,807 --> 01:10:38,601 Didn't touch them for weeks. 1238 01:10:42,372 --> 01:10:44,586 - So a couple of months before he died, 1239 01:10:44,586 --> 01:10:46,457 Ruby started talking about 1240 01:10:46,457 --> 01:10:49,826 he couldn't get over his feelings of losses 1241 01:10:49,826 --> 01:10:53,136 and he thought that he might be depressed, 1242 01:10:53,136 --> 01:10:55,272 but he didn't have any health insurance. 1243 01:10:56,522 --> 01:10:59,666 So he said, "I want some meds. 1244 01:10:59,666 --> 01:11:02,387 "Got any ideas how I can get some?" 1245 01:11:02,387 --> 01:11:05,358 And I had tried some antidepressant meds 1246 01:11:05,358 --> 01:11:09,081 that didn't seem to help and I couldn't sleep on them. 1247 01:11:09,081 --> 01:11:11,517 So I said, "Okay, listen. 1248 01:11:15,798 --> 01:11:16,867 "Here. 1249 01:11:19,235 --> 01:11:20,651 "You can have mine. 1250 01:11:22,961 --> 01:11:24,774 "But you've gotta call a physician 1251 01:11:24,774 --> 01:11:27,413 "for information on how to take them. 1252 01:11:27,413 --> 01:11:31,314 "I cannot be responsible for how you take them. 1253 01:11:31,314 --> 01:11:32,978 "But you can have them." 1254 01:11:36,740 --> 01:11:40,497 I was gonna give him the whole bottle of them 1255 01:11:40,497 --> 01:11:43,040 in the original bottle and I thought, 1256 01:11:45,211 --> 01:11:48,116 what if one day somebody goes into his apartment 1257 01:11:51,146 --> 01:11:53,959 and is looking through his stuff 1258 01:11:53,959 --> 01:11:57,629 and finds my name on a bottle of meds? 1259 01:11:59,719 --> 01:12:01,876 I took them out and I put them in an envelope. 1260 01:12:04,313 --> 01:12:06,217 Just a plain envelope. 1261 01:12:12,004 --> 01:12:15,374 - It was around November or the fall 1262 01:12:15,374 --> 01:12:17,998 when Jim lost an enormous amount of money 1263 01:12:17,998 --> 01:12:20,677 and he actually made the statement, 1264 01:12:20,677 --> 01:12:23,653 "Well, if I don't sell these pots," 1265 01:12:23,653 --> 01:12:25,387 which were these Japanese ceramics, 1266 01:12:25,387 --> 01:12:27,747 "I'm just gonna have to commit hara-kiri." 1267 01:12:31,496 --> 01:12:34,067 - When I called him, I said, "David, 1268 01:12:34,067 --> 01:12:36,072 "I know you're in trouble, 1269 01:12:36,072 --> 01:12:38,013 "I know you've lost your job, 1270 01:12:38,013 --> 01:12:39,549 "and I wanna help you." 1271 01:12:39,549 --> 01:12:42,546 He stopped because I'd never really said that before 1272 01:12:42,546 --> 01:12:45,629 because I didn't view him as really in trouble, 1273 01:12:45,629 --> 01:12:47,997 and he said, 1274 01:12:47,997 --> 01:12:49,330 "I can't talk about this right now 1275 01:12:49,330 --> 01:12:51,644 "because I don't wanna cry in the middle of the street," 1276 01:12:51,644 --> 01:12:54,578 and I thought, oh my God, this is serious. 1277 01:12:54,578 --> 01:12:57,728 He's really emotionally on the verge of tears. 1278 01:12:59,963 --> 01:13:03,815 - Five months before he jumped, 1279 01:13:03,815 --> 01:13:06,415 he had written a note, an email 1280 01:13:06,415 --> 01:13:09,231 to a couple dozen of his friends 1281 01:13:09,231 --> 01:13:12,030 saying that he had been contemplating suicide 1282 01:13:12,030 --> 01:13:15,098 and a lot of them wrote back to him and called him. 1283 01:13:16,320 --> 01:13:19,338 However, he never mentioned suicide to me ever, 1284 01:13:19,338 --> 01:13:22,399 and I just can't fathom the idea of committing suicide 1285 01:13:22,399 --> 01:13:25,237 and I just think I thought he was one of those people 1286 01:13:25,237 --> 01:13:27,764 who for him it just wasn't an option, 1287 01:13:27,764 --> 01:13:29,557 but apparently it was. 1288 01:13:45,754 --> 01:13:47,417 - My daughter was leaving for camp, 1289 01:13:47,417 --> 01:13:50,588 and I said, "You know what, let's go to the movies." 1290 01:13:52,823 --> 01:13:54,510 We went into the theater. 1291 01:14:01,653 --> 01:14:05,013 He just put his head in his hands 1292 01:14:05,013 --> 01:14:09,704 and he just wept. 1293 01:14:09,704 --> 01:14:11,741 He just wept in the movie. 1294 01:14:14,449 --> 01:14:16,552 And I was tearing up a little too, 1295 01:14:16,552 --> 01:14:19,668 but he was just crying and crying and crying. 1296 01:14:27,560 --> 01:14:30,297 And he put his hand on my leg, 1297 01:14:32,874 --> 01:14:34,548 and I said, 1298 01:14:34,548 --> 01:14:37,524 "Ruby, I don't need to be comforted," 1299 01:14:37,524 --> 01:14:39,276 and he looked at me. 1300 01:14:42,001 --> 01:14:44,508 I thought, oh my God. 1301 01:14:44,508 --> 01:14:45,942 Oh no. 1302 01:14:53,750 --> 01:14:56,216 It was then that I remembered 1303 01:14:58,131 --> 01:15:00,533 that I put the meds in a plain white envelope 1304 01:15:02,256 --> 01:15:04,085 a couple months earlier. 1305 01:15:10,576 --> 01:15:11,664 We got out of the movie theater 1306 01:15:11,664 --> 01:15:14,490 and we were walking to his car, 1307 01:15:14,490 --> 01:15:16,459 and I thought, 1308 01:15:18,737 --> 01:15:21,172 he's not just depressed, he wants to kill himself. 1309 01:15:32,723 --> 01:15:34,766 And he said, "The meds, 1310 01:15:34,766 --> 01:15:36,995 "I think I can't sleep because of the meds," 1311 01:15:36,995 --> 01:15:39,435 and I said, 1312 01:15:39,435 --> 01:15:41,014 "I know, I wish I hadn't given them to you 1313 01:15:41,014 --> 01:15:45,395 "because I feel like I made it worse. 1314 01:15:45,395 --> 01:15:48,539 "They had the same effect on me." 1315 01:15:48,539 --> 01:15:50,064 He said, "That's it, actually. 1316 01:15:50,064 --> 01:15:52,528 "I can't sleep, 1317 01:15:52,528 --> 01:15:55,173 "and I'm just up. 1318 01:15:55,173 --> 01:15:59,390 "I can't stop worrying. 1319 01:16:00,802 --> 01:16:02,658 "I just can't turn it off and not sleeping 1320 01:16:02,658 --> 01:16:05,306 "is what is making me crazy. 1321 01:16:06,570 --> 01:16:08,739 "I'm thinking about I'm killing myself." 1322 01:16:09,887 --> 01:16:11,649 And I said, "I know." 1323 01:16:14,677 --> 01:16:17,381 I felt it when we were walking to the car. 1324 01:16:17,381 --> 01:16:18,936 Something was gone. 1325 01:16:21,512 --> 01:16:23,837 And he said, "I'm so ashamed 1326 01:16:23,837 --> 01:16:27,112 "to tell you that I'm thinking about doing this. 1327 01:16:27,112 --> 01:16:29,269 "What would you think of me if I did?" 1328 01:16:33,360 --> 01:16:36,752 And I said, "Ruby, I have understood 1329 01:16:36,752 --> 01:16:40,901 "that there are people who have incessant pain, 1330 01:16:40,901 --> 01:16:43,058 "but ... 1331 01:16:44,568 --> 01:16:47,245 "I don't think you're one of 'em. 1332 01:16:47,245 --> 01:16:49,189 "Do you have plan?" 1333 01:16:50,837 --> 01:16:53,717 And he said, "Well, I'm thinking about different things. 1334 01:16:53,717 --> 01:16:55,530 "I'd overdose except I'm not sure how much to take 1335 01:16:55,530 --> 01:16:57,746 "and I might wake up in an ER, 1336 01:16:57,746 --> 01:17:00,208 "and that would be horrible. 1337 01:17:00,208 --> 01:17:01,311 "And 1338 01:17:03,053 --> 01:17:03,960 "I thought about the bridge," 1339 01:17:03,960 --> 01:17:06,072 and I said, "You can't do the bridge. 1340 01:17:06,072 --> 01:17:07,746 "Too dramatic." 1341 01:17:07,746 --> 01:17:09,282 He said, "What about people who shoot themselves?" 1342 01:17:09,282 --> 01:17:10,349 And I said, "It's too messy. 1343 01:17:10,349 --> 01:17:13,205 "It's not fair to your landlord. 1344 01:17:13,205 --> 01:17:16,206 "And, anyway, 1345 01:17:16,206 --> 01:17:17,780 "you are not in the category 1346 01:17:17,780 --> 01:17:20,097 "of people who get to kill themselves." 1347 01:17:24,977 --> 01:17:26,535 And then he wanted to come over 1348 01:17:26,535 --> 01:17:29,041 and spend some time and just didn't want to go home yet, 1349 01:17:29,041 --> 01:17:32,699 but I actually just wanted to be by myself. 1350 01:17:34,446 --> 01:17:35,600 I said, "No. 1351 01:17:37,004 --> 01:17:38,203 "Can't. 1352 01:17:42,011 --> 01:17:44,086 "But if you feel really desperate, 1353 01:17:44,086 --> 01:17:45,742 "you call me, I'll drop anything." 1354 01:17:45,742 --> 01:17:47,187 I did say that. 1355 01:17:52,659 --> 01:17:54,669 So then I got him out of my car and went home, 1356 01:17:54,669 --> 01:17:57,082 and I didn't hear from him 1357 01:17:59,019 --> 01:18:00,660 actually ever again. 1358 01:18:24,405 --> 01:18:27,535 # Since I lost you 1359 01:18:30,186 --> 01:18:34,458 # I can't get through the day 1360 01:18:34,458 --> 01:18:37,087 # Without at least 1361 01:18:37,087 --> 01:18:40,419 # One big boo-hoo 1362 01:18:42,750 --> 01:18:47,018 # The pain won't go away 1363 01:18:47,018 --> 01:18:49,812 # What am I gonna do # 1364 01:18:51,652 --> 01:18:54,923 - We all know how much 1365 01:18:54,923 --> 01:18:58,135 all of us had been close to Jim, 1366 01:18:58,135 --> 01:19:01,566 how his passing has affected us, whether it's 1367 01:19:02,889 --> 01:19:05,452 fear that, 1368 01:19:05,452 --> 01:19:07,603 you know, you might get to that same place 1369 01:19:07,603 --> 01:19:11,390 and do the same thing or 1370 01:19:11,390 --> 01:19:15,261 just guilt because you felt you weren't a good enough friend 1371 01:19:15,261 --> 01:19:19,720 or whatever it is, there is a lot different reactions. 1372 01:19:19,720 --> 01:19:22,805 Talking to everybody, there's a lot of different reactions. 1373 01:19:25,349 --> 01:19:27,358 And I think everyone's trying to make sense of it. 1374 01:19:30,008 --> 01:19:32,981 In Jim's particular passing, which 1375 01:19:32,981 --> 01:19:34,837 as a friend of mine said, 1376 01:19:34,837 --> 01:19:39,533 he was warning you but he was not asking for help. 1377 01:19:44,840 --> 01:19:46,536 - I thought 1378 01:19:46,536 --> 01:19:49,864 that he was probably feeling so ashamed 1379 01:19:49,864 --> 01:19:51,186 'cause the theme of that night was 1380 01:19:51,186 --> 01:19:53,575 I'm so ashamed I'm telling you this 1381 01:19:53,575 --> 01:19:54,885 that I 1382 01:19:56,573 --> 01:20:00,640 made the mistake of giving him some space to recover, 1383 01:20:01,999 --> 01:20:05,108 and that was a bad call, I think. 1384 01:20:07,055 --> 01:20:09,863 You know, I could have 51-50'd him. 1385 01:20:12,706 --> 01:20:14,047 But, also, 1386 01:20:14,047 --> 01:20:15,487 I didn't wanna humiliate him 1387 01:20:15,487 --> 01:20:17,589 and have him be in a psych facility 1388 01:20:17,589 --> 01:20:19,326 'cause I wasn't sure they were really gonna help him 1389 01:20:19,326 --> 01:20:21,504 and I didn't wanna cross my boundaries. 1390 01:20:22,919 --> 01:20:26,231 But I will never again not intrude. 1391 01:20:26,231 --> 01:20:28,174 I won't respect their privacy 1392 01:20:28,174 --> 01:20:31,665 and I will not ever again 1393 01:20:31,665 --> 01:20:33,361 not do something 'cause I'm afraid 1394 01:20:33,361 --> 01:20:36,029 that they might be embarrassed. 1395 01:20:39,246 --> 01:20:42,488 - There's obviously a fuzzy line between 1396 01:20:42,488 --> 01:20:45,645 doing nothing and doing what would have prevented it 1397 01:20:45,645 --> 01:20:48,664 and who knows where that line is? 1398 01:20:48,664 --> 01:20:49,880 He was a grownup. 1399 01:20:49,880 --> 01:20:51,970 I couldn't tell him what to do with his life, 1400 01:20:51,970 --> 01:20:54,306 and I suppose if we had had him locked up 1401 01:20:54,306 --> 01:20:58,114 or something, then he might still be alive, 1402 01:20:58,114 --> 01:21:00,849 but I don't 1403 01:21:00,849 --> 01:21:03,471 blame myself like that. 1404 01:21:04,800 --> 01:21:08,325 Initially, several of his other friends 1405 01:21:08,325 --> 01:21:10,322 went out there as a group 1406 01:21:10,322 --> 01:21:13,671 because they knew the light pole number 1407 01:21:13,671 --> 01:21:16,169 where he had jumped. 1408 01:21:17,967 --> 01:21:19,546 I couldn't go, 1409 01:21:19,546 --> 01:21:21,914 but a couple of months later, I did go 1410 01:21:21,914 --> 01:21:23,791 and it was very difficult, 1411 01:21:23,791 --> 01:21:27,087 and I'll never be able to drive across the bridge again 1412 01:21:27,087 --> 01:21:29,901 without some kind of 1413 01:21:31,361 --> 01:21:33,390 emotional reaction. 1414 01:21:34,953 --> 01:21:36,926 Something else I'm pissed off at him about. 1415 01:21:36,926 --> 01:21:38,872 It's such a great bridge. 1416 01:21:42,366 --> 01:21:44,781 - I think the bridge has a romance, 1417 01:21:47,841 --> 01:21:50,186 a false romantic promise to it 1418 01:21:52,208 --> 01:21:54,117 because he's dead. 1419 01:21:55,837 --> 01:21:57,089 And 1420 01:21:59,025 --> 01:22:00,924 he doesn't get to benefit 1421 01:22:00,924 --> 01:22:03,225 from the romanticism of it. 1422 01:22:03,225 --> 01:22:06,224 He doesn't have any benefit from it. 1423 01:22:06,224 --> 01:22:10,173 It romanticizes him a bit in the legend, 1424 01:22:15,083 --> 01:22:17,285 but he doesn't benefit for it. 1425 01:22:17,285 --> 01:22:19,973 So what if his story has that at the end? 1426 01:22:19,973 --> 01:22:21,175 He's gone. 1427 01:22:23,255 --> 01:22:24,799 And so I think there's an empty promise. 1428 01:22:24,799 --> 01:22:27,150 It's almost like, you know what alcoholics talk about 1429 01:22:27,150 --> 01:22:29,414 the romance of the bottle, you know? 1430 01:22:30,589 --> 01:22:32,800 Like maybe the first sip is really good 1431 01:22:32,800 --> 01:22:35,154 and everything else is hell. 1432 01:22:35,154 --> 01:22:36,295 So maybe walking out there, 1433 01:22:36,295 --> 01:22:39,742 he had a romantic moment or two or an hour, 1434 01:22:41,444 --> 01:22:43,975 but hitting the water can't be fun. 1435 01:22:45,900 --> 01:22:47,159 So I think he felt like a failure 1436 01:22:47,159 --> 01:22:49,337 and this was some sort of redemption. 1437 01:22:52,607 --> 01:22:56,173 I think that it just drew him with this idea of 1438 01:22:59,142 --> 01:23:00,651 being famous. 1439 01:23:47,031 --> 01:23:50,477 - The last time I saw him, I was leaving for work 1440 01:23:50,477 --> 01:23:54,742 and I gave him five bucks so he could get a pack of smokes, 1441 01:23:54,742 --> 01:23:57,921 go grab a paper, and, you know, 1442 01:23:57,921 --> 01:24:00,344 go out and maybe hit a couple places 1443 01:24:00,344 --> 01:24:02,718 to put in some applications, 1444 01:24:02,718 --> 01:24:04,627 and that's when he disappeared 1445 01:24:04,627 --> 01:24:08,200 and I was the last one to actually talk to him, 1446 01:24:08,200 --> 01:24:12,500 and I remember when I was walking out the door, 1447 01:24:12,500 --> 01:24:15,275 the last thing I said to him, I said, 1448 01:24:15,275 --> 01:24:16,974 "Cheer up, Gene." 1449 01:24:16,974 --> 01:24:20,428 I said, "Everything will work out." 1450 01:24:20,428 --> 01:24:24,067 And just jokingly, I said, 1451 01:24:24,067 --> 01:24:25,706 "See you when I get home, love you," 1452 01:24:25,706 --> 01:24:29,287 and that was it, that was the last thing I ever said to him. 1453 01:24:30,524 --> 01:24:33,010 - The last thing I ever said to him was a fight. 1454 01:24:33,010 --> 01:24:34,960 - Yeah. 1455 01:24:34,960 --> 01:24:36,538 - Because... 1456 01:24:36,538 --> 01:24:39,155 I didn't think he was trying 1457 01:24:39,155 --> 01:24:42,159 to find a job as hard as he could, 1458 01:24:42,159 --> 01:24:43,290 and it was making me angry 1459 01:24:43,290 --> 01:24:45,103 because I knew that he was very smart 1460 01:24:45,103 --> 01:24:46,841 and he was very capable 1461 01:24:46,841 --> 01:24:49,679 and the only thing holding him back was him 1462 01:24:49,679 --> 01:24:51,492 just not caring, 1463 01:24:51,492 --> 01:24:53,838 and he found one of the kid's sidewalk chalk 1464 01:24:53,838 --> 01:24:57,337 and he was sittin' behind Matt's truck 1465 01:24:57,337 --> 01:25:00,291 and he wrote "End me" on the ground 1466 01:25:00,291 --> 01:25:03,171 like he scratched it in over and over and over, 1467 01:25:03,171 --> 01:25:05,208 and my son came in and got me 1468 01:25:05,208 --> 01:25:07,248 and said, "Why would Gene write that?" 1469 01:25:15,326 --> 01:25:18,811 - Knowing Gene and the way his personality works and stuff, 1470 01:25:18,811 --> 01:25:20,784 the Golden Gate Bridge is perfect for him 1471 01:25:20,784 --> 01:25:24,510 because it's just one easy step 1472 01:25:24,510 --> 01:25:26,224 and there's no turning back. 1473 01:25:26,224 --> 01:25:28,752 In hindsight, I almost feel like 1474 01:25:28,752 --> 01:25:30,938 it was meant to happen. 1475 01:25:30,938 --> 01:25:32,602 Maybe he's happy now. 1476 01:25:32,602 --> 01:25:33,400 You know, who knows? 1477 01:25:33,400 --> 01:25:35,410 I don't, but 1478 01:25:39,686 --> 01:25:42,423 he couldn't have lasted much longer, 1479 01:25:42,423 --> 01:25:44,610 not the way he was going. 1480 01:25:44,610 --> 01:25:46,860 - But if he would have waited, 1481 01:25:46,860 --> 01:25:48,279 there was a message on our answering machine 1482 01:25:48,279 --> 01:25:50,828 from one of the places in Oakland 1483 01:25:50,828 --> 01:25:52,993 that had offered him a management position 1484 01:25:52,993 --> 01:25:54,316 which is what he wanted. 1485 01:25:54,316 --> 01:25:57,368 They were opening a new GameStop, I think it was. 1486 01:25:57,368 --> 01:25:57,996 - Whatever, 1487 01:25:57,996 --> 01:25:58,828 one of the game places. - One of game 1488 01:25:58,828 --> 01:26:00,449 stores and they were gonna put him 1489 01:26:00,449 --> 01:26:01,974 straight into management, 1490 01:26:01,974 --> 01:26:03,553 and he had an interview the day that he jumped 1491 01:26:03,553 --> 01:26:05,131 at 10 o'clock in the morning. 1492 01:26:05,131 --> 01:26:05,857 - Yep. 1493 01:26:05,857 --> 01:26:08,203 - And I don't know if he got the message 1494 01:26:08,203 --> 01:26:11,456 or if he missed it 'cause I don't know what time he left. 1495 01:26:11,456 --> 01:26:13,400 He was gone before I got home. 1496 01:26:16,318 --> 01:26:19,375 If he would've either just checked the message or waited. 1497 01:26:26,709 --> 01:26:29,450 - I couldn't fully cry, and I couldn't 1498 01:26:29,450 --> 01:26:34,305 fully whatever, but the overwhelming emotion was anger. 1499 01:26:35,564 --> 01:26:38,536 I was extremely pissed. 1500 01:26:38,536 --> 01:26:42,797 I wanted to drive out to the Bay Area and 1501 01:26:42,797 --> 01:26:44,844 go to the coroner and 1502 01:26:46,856 --> 01:26:49,341 you know, get, clear! 1503 01:26:49,341 --> 01:26:50,333 Wake up. 1504 01:26:50,333 --> 01:26:52,445 Why did you do that? 1505 01:26:52,445 --> 01:26:55,495 I don't see any reason 1506 01:26:55,495 --> 01:26:57,438 for people to do that, 1507 01:26:58,745 --> 01:27:02,723 and Gene had people in this world that loved him, 1508 01:27:04,201 --> 01:27:06,425 and he hurt 'em. 1509 01:27:08,734 --> 01:27:11,753 If I see him again, that's what I wanna tell him. 1510 01:27:11,753 --> 01:27:13,054 He hurt me, 1511 01:27:13,054 --> 01:27:15,384 and I didn't think he would ever do that. 1512 01:27:22,695 --> 01:27:24,881 - Disturbed is a interesting word 1513 01:27:24,881 --> 01:27:28,177 'cause... that's all I can define it as 1514 01:27:28,177 --> 01:27:30,107 is I was disturbed. 1515 01:27:30,107 --> 01:27:31,494 Now I miss him. 1516 01:27:31,494 --> 01:27:33,669 Now I'm sad. 1517 01:27:33,669 --> 01:27:37,170 But at the moment, there was almost, 1518 01:27:38,787 --> 01:27:42,739 that I got the news, there was almost a sense of relief, 1519 01:27:47,321 --> 01:27:50,498 that he wasn't going to be 1520 01:27:50,498 --> 01:27:53,764 disappointed or unhappy anymore. 1521 01:27:56,789 --> 01:27:58,911 I miss him. 1522 01:27:58,911 --> 01:28:03,756 But I don't have any answers, 1523 01:28:06,172 --> 01:28:10,115 just a bunch of observations and a bunch of 1524 01:28:10,115 --> 01:28:14,418 experience of feeling disturbed 1525 01:28:14,418 --> 01:28:16,772 about that situation. 1526 01:28:17,999 --> 01:28:20,868 I don't know why people kill themselves, 1527 01:28:20,868 --> 01:28:23,451 and yet it's a small step 1528 01:28:23,451 --> 01:28:26,012 to emphasize, to say... 1529 01:28:27,292 --> 01:28:30,742 because I think we all experience moments of despair 1530 01:28:30,742 --> 01:28:35,545 that it would be so much easier not to do this anymore. 1531 01:28:37,334 --> 01:28:39,424 But for most of us, 1532 01:28:39,424 --> 01:28:41,952 the sun comes out and then, 1533 01:28:41,952 --> 01:28:43,695 oh well. 1534 01:28:43,695 --> 01:28:45,905 Tomorrow is another day. 1535 01:28:54,717 --> 01:28:58,261 Why he chose the bridge, I don't know. 1536 01:28:59,834 --> 01:29:02,202 Maybe there's a certain amount of 1537 01:29:02,202 --> 01:29:05,471 release from 1538 01:29:05,471 --> 01:29:07,631 pain by pain. 1539 01:29:10,701 --> 01:29:13,230 Maybe he just wanted to fly one time. 1540 01:29:55,538 --> 01:30:00,316 # Here, where they can't find us 1541 01:30:00,316 --> 01:30:02,796 # Dare them to call 1542 01:30:03,844 --> 01:30:05,833 # Me out 1543 01:30:07,076 --> 01:30:08,190 # Or tell you 1544 01:30:08,190 --> 01:30:12,548 # We met here on purpose 1545 01:30:12,548 --> 01:30:15,346 # I bet they can't wait 1546 01:30:16,343 --> 01:30:19,448 # To wake us up 1547 01:30:19,448 --> 01:30:21,992 # It's all 1548 01:30:21,992 --> 01:30:24,929 # A little bit strange 1549 01:30:26,096 --> 01:30:27,931 # I know 1550 01:30:27,931 --> 01:30:31,285 # It's a little bit strange 1551 01:30:33,221 --> 01:30:34,501 # Make 1552 01:30:34,501 --> 01:30:37,562 # A point and ignore them 1553 01:30:37,562 --> 01:30:41,309 # Come on, let's wait 1554 01:30:41,309 --> 01:30:43,526 # This out 1555 01:30:44,602 --> 01:30:45,647 # They'll find out 1556 01:30:45,647 --> 01:30:50,009 # We never stopped turning 1557 01:30:50,009 --> 01:30:53,859 # And sometimes it's tough 1558 01:30:53,859 --> 01:30:57,230 # To change direction 1559 01:30:57,230 --> 01:30:59,417 # I know 1560 01:30:59,417 --> 01:31:02,332 # It's a little bit strange 1561 01:31:03,712 --> 01:31:05,742 # It's all 1562 01:31:05,742 --> 01:31:10,279 # A little bit strange 1563 01:31:10,279 --> 01:31:12,629 # At the end of the day 1564 01:31:12,629 --> 01:31:15,276 # Well, I 1565 01:31:16,413 --> 01:31:18,985 # Gonna say what I mean 1566 01:31:18,985 --> 01:31:21,901 # Well, I 1567 01:31:22,910 --> 01:31:25,139 # It's slipping all away 1568 01:31:25,139 --> 01:31:27,705 # Away 1569 01:31:28,968 --> 01:31:30,472 # At the end 1570 01:31:30,472 --> 01:31:33,740 # Of our days 1571 01:31:34,909 --> 01:31:37,207 # We'll escape 1572 01:31:41,276 --> 01:31:43,404 # We'll escape 1573 01:31:53,748 --> 01:31:55,527 # I know 1574 01:32:00,823 --> 01:32:04,486 # Oh, oo, oh 1575 01:32:07,052 --> 01:32:10,896 # Oh, oo, oh 1576 01:32:12,758 --> 01:32:14,359 # I know 1577 01:32:14,359 --> 01:32:17,488 # It's a little bit strange 1578 01:32:18,955 --> 01:32:20,886 # It's all 1579 01:32:20,886 --> 01:32:25,370 # A little bit strange 1580 01:32:25,370 --> 01:32:27,754 # At the end of the day 1581 01:32:27,754 --> 01:32:30,063 # Well, I 1582 01:32:31,509 --> 01:32:33,994 # Gonna say what I mean 1583 01:32:33,994 --> 01:32:36,335 # Well, I 1584 01:32:37,749 --> 01:32:40,394 # At the end of the day 1585 01:32:40,394 --> 01:32:42,478 # I 1586 01:32:43,604 --> 01:32:46,678 # Gonna say what I mean 1587 01:32:46,678 --> 01:32:50,471 # Well, I 1588 01:32:50,471 --> 01:32:55,456 # Slipping all away 1589 01:32:56,796 --> 01:33:01,796 # Slipping all away 1590 01:33:03,025 --> 01:33:06,745 # Slipping all away 1591 01:33:06,745 --> 01:33:09,112 # Now 1592 01:33:09,112 --> 01:33:11,968 # At the end of 1593 01:33:11,968 --> 01:33:14,018 # Our day 1594 01:33:15,208 --> 01:33:17,400 # We'll escape 1595 01:33:21,405 --> 01:33:23,810 # We'll escape 1596 01:33:26,439 --> 01:33:29,367 # Oh, there's no escape 1597 01:33:34,055 --> 01:33:36,237 # We'll escape 1598 01:33:37,564 --> 01:33:42,528 # Oh, yeah 1599 01:33:46,460 --> 01:33:48,288 # Right now 1600 01:33:53,519 --> 01:33:57,045 # Oh, oo, oh 1601 01:33:59,557 --> 01:34:03,733 # Oh, oo, oh # 117802

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