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[ oscillating static ] 12 00:00:25,493 --> 00:00:26,892 aaron: Whoa! 13 00:00:26,894 --> 00:00:28,227 Holy god, that sounded like him. 14 00:00:28,229 --> 00:00:31,497 You can see by the reactions on their faces... 15 00:00:31,499 --> 00:00:34,566 Billy: Yeah. ...It worked. 16 00:00:34,568 --> 00:00:38,170 Zak: We have seen things that defy explanation, 17 00:00:38,172 --> 00:00:40,105 experiencing the best... 18 00:00:40,107 --> 00:00:41,407 God, that was awesome! 19 00:00:41,409 --> 00:00:42,908 That was so awesome. 20 00:00:42,910 --> 00:00:44,076 ...And worst... 21 00:00:44,078 --> 00:00:46,445 These dolls are gonna [bleep] take our souls. 22 00:00:46,447 --> 00:00:49,148 ...Of the places between worlds. 23 00:00:49,150 --> 00:00:52,451 I want the portals of this forest wide open! 24 00:00:52,453 --> 00:00:54,353 Now it's time to look back. 25 00:00:54,355 --> 00:00:57,990 One of my scariest nightmares that we are about to relive. 26 00:00:57,992 --> 00:00:59,525 For the first time ever, 27 00:00:59,527 --> 00:01:03,495 I'm inviting you, the audience, into my inner sanctum. 28 00:01:03,497 --> 00:01:06,632 Together, we will pull back the curtain on the biggest, 29 00:01:06,634 --> 00:01:11,136 scariest, and funniest moments from our investigations. 30 00:01:11,138 --> 00:01:13,272 I'm zak bagans, and this is 31 00:01:13,274 --> 00:01:16,341 "ghost adventures: Screaming room." 32 00:01:18,379 --> 00:01:20,179 so, why do you guys always wear black? 33 00:01:20,181 --> 00:01:21,747 It's kind of -- it's all I own. 34 00:01:21,749 --> 00:01:24,183 I like to accent it once in a while with some color. 35 00:01:24,185 --> 00:01:27,453 Zak: Hi, guys. All: Hey, zak. 36 00:01:27,455 --> 00:01:29,688 "hi, zak." in stereo. [ laughs ] 37 00:01:29,690 --> 00:01:33,058 so, what I want to do is I want to start digging into 38 00:01:33,060 --> 00:01:35,160 some of our deeper investigations, 39 00:01:35,162 --> 00:01:36,795 ones that we help families. 40 00:01:36,797 --> 00:01:38,297 Kind of a de-briefing for all of us 41 00:01:38,299 --> 00:01:40,332 to go through what we felt. 42 00:01:40,334 --> 00:01:43,235 Yeah. One of them is very tough for me. 43 00:01:43,237 --> 00:01:45,871 One of them, I had tears going down my face 44 00:01:45,873 --> 00:01:48,440 within the first hour of us arriving, 45 00:01:48,442 --> 00:01:51,076 and it gets real serious sometimes, 46 00:01:51,078 --> 00:01:52,778 and it gets real hard for us. 47 00:01:52,780 --> 00:01:54,046 Which one are we watching? 48 00:01:54,048 --> 00:01:56,014 Crisis in oakdale. Aaron: Oh, wow. 49 00:01:56,016 --> 00:01:58,517 This was a tough one. 50 00:01:58,519 --> 00:02:00,886 Zak: This is gonna be an investigation 51 00:02:00,888 --> 00:02:06,625 that is gonna be really troubling for all of us. 52 00:02:06,627 --> 00:02:09,661 It's extremely sad, it's very emotional, 53 00:02:09,663 --> 00:02:12,431 and we're gonna be dealing with a grieving family 54 00:02:12,433 --> 00:02:14,633 from a very recent death. 55 00:02:14,635 --> 00:02:19,438 This may be the hardest investigation I have ever faced. 56 00:02:19,440 --> 00:02:21,907 Not only are we going here to help her, 57 00:02:21,909 --> 00:02:24,476 but we're also going to protect her 58 00:02:24,478 --> 00:02:29,481 by figuring out what is inside her house that is so sinister. 59 00:02:29,483 --> 00:02:32,017 Zak: This private home in oakdale, california, 60 00:02:32,019 --> 00:02:34,753 has something dark happening inside. 61 00:02:34,755 --> 00:02:37,689 It seems that every man who has lived in this house 62 00:02:37,691 --> 00:02:39,992 has died an untimely death -- 63 00:02:39,994 --> 00:02:42,861 most recently, the homeowner's son. 64 00:02:42,863 --> 00:02:47,065 Some of these investigations, we show up and they're more fun. 65 00:02:47,067 --> 00:02:50,135 Some of them, they're just historic haunted location 66 00:02:50,137 --> 00:02:51,904 where we're going and trying to get evidence. 67 00:02:51,906 --> 00:02:53,205 And then you have these, 68 00:02:53,207 --> 00:02:55,908 where you're walking in and a family 69 00:02:55,910 --> 00:03:01,180 just lost somebody weeks ago, trying to help them with closure 70 00:03:01,182 --> 00:03:03,982 by documenting evidence of their loved one 71 00:03:03,984 --> 00:03:06,118 who's been trying to contact them. 72 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:08,320 I mean, this is tough to do. 73 00:03:08,322 --> 00:03:09,988 And empathetically, we feel it. 74 00:03:09,990 --> 00:03:10,956 Yeah. 75 00:03:10,958 --> 00:03:12,891 Zak: Hi, karon. How you doing? 76 00:03:12,893 --> 00:03:16,128 Okay. Been better. Okay. 77 00:03:16,130 --> 00:03:21,300 I'd like you to just start off and tell me about the tragedy 78 00:03:21,302 --> 00:03:25,204 that occurred a little over a month ago. 79 00:03:25,206 --> 00:03:31,577 I had a 27-year-old son who was autistic, very high-functioning. 80 00:03:31,579 --> 00:03:35,547 This last June, he decided to see his father for father's day, 81 00:03:35,549 --> 00:03:37,683 and his father took him out 82 00:03:37,685 --> 00:03:41,486 and taught him how to load and fire a gun. 83 00:03:41,488 --> 00:03:46,191 A short while after, michael went over to my father's house 84 00:03:46,193 --> 00:03:50,662 and took an antique .38. 85 00:03:50,664 --> 00:03:54,433 And then michael came home and went in the bathroom 86 00:03:54,435 --> 00:03:57,369 and shot his self in the head. 87 00:03:57,371 --> 00:03:59,871 This is a coping mechanism for her. 88 00:03:59,873 --> 00:04:06,111 This was her way to help find closure 89 00:04:06,113 --> 00:04:08,747 and just a remedy for her pain. 90 00:04:08,749 --> 00:04:12,117 This was a method, and we were there to support her, 91 00:04:12,119 --> 00:04:13,819 support his spirit. 92 00:04:13,821 --> 00:04:15,921 While she's sitting her talking to us, 93 00:04:15,923 --> 00:04:19,057 he's there, spirit of him is there, listening to this. 94 00:04:19,059 --> 00:04:21,560 It probably helps, when we do investigate, 95 00:04:21,562 --> 00:04:23,161 connect everything together. 96 00:04:23,163 --> 00:04:27,799 ♪♪ 97 00:04:27,801 --> 00:04:31,770 karon: A week to the day after his passing, 98 00:04:31,772 --> 00:04:33,205 I was sitting right here. 99 00:04:33,207 --> 00:04:35,707 I had not been able to go into michael's room, 100 00:04:35,709 --> 00:04:40,779 but something just, I felt, guided me to his room. 101 00:04:40,781 --> 00:04:43,215 And in the bottom of his clothes hamper, 102 00:04:43,217 --> 00:04:45,917 I found two letters from him. 103 00:04:45,919 --> 00:04:49,721 Apparently, he'd been planning this for a while. 104 00:04:49,723 --> 00:04:55,193 In the letters, he blamed his father, 105 00:04:55,195 --> 00:04:59,398 and a person that I don't care to name 106 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:02,567 had apparently molested him when he was 8 years old. 107 00:05:04,805 --> 00:05:09,074 We didn't know about it, and he wrote it all out in this letter. 108 00:05:09,076 --> 00:05:11,610 I want my son to rest in peace. 109 00:05:11,612 --> 00:05:13,211 That was the most painful thing 110 00:05:13,213 --> 00:05:15,314 I have ever read in my entire life. 111 00:05:15,316 --> 00:05:18,183 Zak: When she handed me this letter... Aaron: Oh, yeah. 112 00:05:18,185 --> 00:05:19,985 And it was his handwriting, 113 00:05:19,987 --> 00:05:23,488 describing why he took his own life, 114 00:05:23,490 --> 00:05:27,426 knowing that I am the only one who's read that was a big thing. 115 00:05:27,428 --> 00:05:29,828 And to hear those details is something 116 00:05:29,830 --> 00:05:32,230 that I'll never tell anybody, ever. 117 00:05:32,232 --> 00:05:34,399 I'll hold that with me here, 118 00:05:34,401 --> 00:05:36,935 but I think it was important for me to read that letter 119 00:05:36,937 --> 00:05:38,537 to understand why 120 00:05:38,539 --> 00:05:41,973 and to understand his emotion and tone while he wrote that. 121 00:05:41,975 --> 00:05:45,444 And that was gonna help me better try to make contact 122 00:05:45,446 --> 00:05:47,479 with him while we're there. 123 00:05:47,481 --> 00:05:50,582 Karon: Michael -- he only watched three tv shows, 124 00:05:50,584 --> 00:05:52,184 and one was "ghost adventures," 125 00:05:52,186 --> 00:05:55,320 because I watched it and he would watch it with me. 126 00:05:57,591 --> 00:06:01,193 Zak: Michael, if you're here, we're here. 127 00:06:01,195 --> 00:06:03,795 You watched us on television. 128 00:06:03,797 --> 00:06:06,765 We're here for you, we're here for your mother, 129 00:06:06,767 --> 00:06:08,400 we're here for your family, 130 00:06:08,402 --> 00:06:11,770 and please help your mother out and just let her feel, 131 00:06:11,772 --> 00:06:17,042 let her know that you can move on now, with peace. 132 00:06:17,044 --> 00:06:19,878 ♪♪ 133 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:21,646 I feel that our emotional energies, 134 00:06:21,648 --> 00:06:23,749 at that point, joining together, 135 00:06:23,751 --> 00:06:26,952 and then also being linked together with her son 136 00:06:26,954 --> 00:06:30,322 through him being a fan of us, I think this, right here, 137 00:06:30,324 --> 00:06:33,291 was the most important part to connect with him. 138 00:06:33,293 --> 00:06:35,460 To bring him, to manifest him 139 00:06:35,462 --> 00:06:38,530 and to see the emotion of not only her but me 140 00:06:38,532 --> 00:06:40,499 and somebody that he could recognize. 141 00:06:40,501 --> 00:06:44,169 Zak: You believe that he's still here? 142 00:06:44,171 --> 00:06:45,537 Karon: I feel energy. 143 00:06:45,539 --> 00:06:50,275 Do you think that there's something here, 144 00:06:50,277 --> 00:06:54,746 something else, before your son took his life? 145 00:06:54,748 --> 00:06:58,917 Yes. There's been doors opening and closing. 146 00:06:58,919 --> 00:07:02,487 There's been people being touched here. 147 00:07:02,489 --> 00:07:05,390 This is our job as investigators, to dig deeper, 148 00:07:05,392 --> 00:07:07,592 to ask these questions that may be tough, 149 00:07:07,594 --> 00:07:10,362 but we need to know the back-story behind this. 150 00:07:10,364 --> 00:07:14,766 So far, the men that have lived in this house are all dead. 151 00:07:14,768 --> 00:07:15,901 What do you mean? 152 00:07:15,903 --> 00:07:17,636 I bought this house 23 years ago. 153 00:07:17,638 --> 00:07:20,338 It was two years old. It had been lived in for one year. 154 00:07:20,340 --> 00:07:24,142 There was a young man in his late 20s. 155 00:07:24,144 --> 00:07:27,946 He was killed in an accident on the colorado river. 156 00:07:27,948 --> 00:07:30,182 I had a fiancé for eight and a half years 157 00:07:30,184 --> 00:07:31,850 who moved into my house. 158 00:07:31,852 --> 00:07:35,020 13 years ago, we found him strangled. 159 00:07:35,022 --> 00:07:37,823 The police ruled it a suicide. 160 00:07:37,825 --> 00:07:39,424 And he was living here at the time? 161 00:07:39,426 --> 00:07:40,926 Mm-hmm. Okay. 162 00:07:40,928 --> 00:07:42,994 We need to know if there's been a lingering curse 163 00:07:42,996 --> 00:07:44,362 within the family. 164 00:07:44,364 --> 00:07:46,565 We need to know if there's been a generational demon 165 00:07:46,567 --> 00:07:48,166 that's been attached to them. 166 00:07:48,168 --> 00:07:51,937 I don't know if they're just strange coincidences. 167 00:07:51,939 --> 00:07:55,106 I don't know if it has something to do with me. 168 00:07:55,108 --> 00:07:58,443 I've thought that a lot of times, 169 00:07:58,445 --> 00:08:01,980 but I had always hoped it would never affect my kids. 170 00:08:01,982 --> 00:08:03,915 Why would it have something to do with you? 171 00:08:03,917 --> 00:08:07,786 My mother's death was ruled a suicide, as well. 172 00:08:07,788 --> 00:08:09,521 Those spirits of the people who died there, 173 00:08:09,523 --> 00:08:11,857 or even who are related to them, died somewhere else, 174 00:08:11,859 --> 00:08:13,658 could be in this house and affect him, 175 00:08:13,660 --> 00:08:15,193 but now he's there with them, 176 00:08:15,195 --> 00:08:17,729 and how confused are those spirits compared to him? 177 00:08:17,731 --> 00:08:21,333 So it becomes this chaotic mess where, over time, 178 00:08:21,335 --> 00:08:23,835 a spirit becomes something darker than it is supposed to. 179 00:08:23,837 --> 00:08:25,871 And how do we know what these other spirits -- 180 00:08:25,873 --> 00:08:29,174 if they also are coaxing him to do what he did, 181 00:08:29,176 --> 00:08:31,376 you know, just to get him, this generational thing 182 00:08:31,378 --> 00:08:32,844 that just keeps happening over and over again. 183 00:08:32,846 --> 00:08:35,213 And that's why most people that see this and hear this, 184 00:08:35,215 --> 00:08:37,482 they just see, "oh, he committed suicide. He's stuck." 185 00:08:37,484 --> 00:08:39,451 but we've got to go really deep 186 00:08:39,453 --> 00:08:42,721 into the roots of the story within this family. 187 00:08:42,723 --> 00:08:45,790 Zak: Another detail karon shared with me off-camera 188 00:08:45,792 --> 00:08:49,427 is that her grandmother was confined to an insane asylum 189 00:08:49,429 --> 00:08:51,596 for speaking with the dead. 190 00:08:51,598 --> 00:08:55,500 Do you have any requests of anybody you want to talk to, 191 00:08:55,502 --> 00:08:57,936 or somebody that we can bring here? 192 00:08:57,938 --> 00:09:00,906 I was kind of hoping for a psychic or a medium. 193 00:09:00,908 --> 00:09:01,940 Okay. 194 00:09:01,942 --> 00:09:06,344 Karon decides to show me michael's ashes. 195 00:09:06,346 --> 00:09:09,214 But, before I see them, I feel that it's necessary 196 00:09:09,216 --> 00:09:13,418 to make something very clear to her as the circumstances 197 00:09:13,420 --> 00:09:16,655 and emotions are so delicate and sensitive. 198 00:09:16,657 --> 00:09:18,256 I don't make any guarantees. 199 00:09:18,258 --> 00:09:19,491 Okay? 200 00:09:19,493 --> 00:09:22,861 But what I do make is a promise and a commitment 201 00:09:22,863 --> 00:09:26,431 to you and your family that I'm gonna stay here, 202 00:09:26,433 --> 00:09:29,634 be here, and share the emotion that you have, 203 00:09:29,636 --> 00:09:32,337 in the hopes of reaching out to the spirit of your son, 204 00:09:32,339 --> 00:09:34,339 who you believe is still here, 205 00:09:34,341 --> 00:09:38,777 and hopefully, he can move on with peace. 206 00:09:38,779 --> 00:09:40,679 The scary thought, though, is if this is, 207 00:09:40,681 --> 00:09:42,614 like, a generational demon 208 00:09:42,616 --> 00:09:44,583 or something negative affecting this family, 209 00:09:44,585 --> 00:09:46,685 who's not to say it's gonna keep doing it, you know? 210 00:09:46,687 --> 00:09:48,053 And us learning this, like, 211 00:09:48,055 --> 00:09:50,322 it might have something that has a hold of the family, 212 00:09:50,324 --> 00:09:52,090 which is even scarier. 213 00:09:52,092 --> 00:09:54,759 ♪♪ 214 00:09:54,761 --> 00:09:57,596 karon hasn't been able to go into the bathroom 215 00:09:57,598 --> 00:10:00,699 where michael ended his life just over a month ago, 216 00:10:00,701 --> 00:10:03,101 but has suggested we go together. 217 00:10:03,103 --> 00:10:07,372 ♪♪ 218 00:10:07,374 --> 00:10:10,175 this was the most disturbing part. 219 00:10:10,177 --> 00:10:12,043 This was bad. 220 00:10:12,045 --> 00:10:19,417 Her taking us to the bathroom where he took his life. 221 00:10:19,419 --> 00:10:21,186 You see the brown? 222 00:10:21,188 --> 00:10:23,054 Zak: Yeah. 223 00:10:23,056 --> 00:10:25,056 See right here? 224 00:10:25,058 --> 00:10:28,393 His head was here, and the back of his head was here, 225 00:10:28,395 --> 00:10:30,128 and it ran that way. 226 00:10:30,130 --> 00:10:33,398 So this whole brown outline of his body, 227 00:10:33,400 --> 00:10:35,300 and his head was here. 228 00:10:35,302 --> 00:10:38,770 ♪♪ 229 00:10:38,772 --> 00:10:40,305 that's the bullet hole. 230 00:10:40,307 --> 00:10:44,676 And I think, when I pointed out the bullet hole in the wall... 231 00:10:44,678 --> 00:10:47,379 ♪♪ 232 00:10:47,381 --> 00:10:48,813 that was really tough for her, but... 233 00:10:48,815 --> 00:10:50,081 I need to go outside. 234 00:10:50,083 --> 00:10:51,483 ...I just made the decision, 235 00:10:51,485 --> 00:10:54,185 I think, that that bullet needed to be... 236 00:10:54,187 --> 00:10:56,755 Aaron: Which is a good point. ...Removed from the wall... 237 00:10:56,757 --> 00:10:59,624 Billy: I agree. ...Because that bullet has energy to it. 238 00:10:59,626 --> 00:11:00,992 Absolutely. 239 00:11:00,994 --> 00:11:04,596 And I think that what's done has already been done. 240 00:11:04,598 --> 00:11:08,566 And I think that the physical reminders 241 00:11:08,568 --> 00:11:09,968 of that violent event... 242 00:11:09,970 --> 00:11:11,436 Billy: Removed. ...Should be removed and just... 243 00:11:11,438 --> 00:11:12,737 For sure. ...Fill the house with this, 244 00:11:12,739 --> 00:11:16,107 with loving photos and flowers and love. 245 00:11:16,109 --> 00:11:17,542 Right. 246 00:11:17,544 --> 00:11:19,277 Zak: We immediately start the process 247 00:11:19,279 --> 00:11:22,080 of removing the bullet from the wall. 248 00:11:22,082 --> 00:11:25,984 This is so difficult, but I will do whatever I can. 249 00:11:25,986 --> 00:11:28,620 We finally locate the slug. 250 00:11:28,622 --> 00:11:31,923 Hopefully, this will bring karon some peace. 251 00:11:31,925 --> 00:11:34,559 If you're struggling with depression, 252 00:11:34,561 --> 00:11:37,862 if you're struggling with any type of darkness at all, 253 00:11:37,864 --> 00:11:40,265 just, you know, know that, you know, you're not alone 254 00:11:40,267 --> 00:11:43,301 and a lot of other people have gone through this 255 00:11:43,303 --> 00:11:44,836 and there's help for you, 256 00:11:44,838 --> 00:11:48,039 and just know that these things can pass, 257 00:11:48,041 --> 00:11:50,675 so if you don't have anybody to talk to, 258 00:11:50,677 --> 00:11:53,244 here's a number that you can talk to somebody. 259 00:11:53,246 --> 00:11:59,184 ♪♪ 260 00:11:59,186 --> 00:12:05,190 ♪♪ 261 00:12:06,827 --> 00:12:12,297 ♪♪ 262 00:12:12,299 --> 00:12:13,998 zak: We now meet karon's friends, 263 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:19,904 who visited the home just one week after michael's death. 264 00:12:19,906 --> 00:12:24,175 Deanna, a psychic, details numerous dark experiences 265 00:12:24,177 --> 00:12:28,980 she had while here and after she left. 266 00:12:28,982 --> 00:12:31,616 Is there something else in the house? 267 00:12:31,618 --> 00:12:35,186 Family has talked about things being in the house, 268 00:12:35,188 --> 00:12:36,588 occurrences happening. 269 00:12:36,590 --> 00:12:39,023 Did you ever feel something, though, 270 00:12:39,025 --> 00:12:42,660 that was darker or evil here? 271 00:12:42,662 --> 00:12:44,629 Yeah, I definitely felt something darker. 272 00:12:44,631 --> 00:12:45,764 Like, the whole time I was here, 273 00:12:45,766 --> 00:12:48,533 I could feel something grabbing my side, 274 00:12:48,535 --> 00:12:52,070 like it was trying to, maybe, attach to me or something. 275 00:12:52,072 --> 00:12:53,371 Demonic? Yeah. 276 00:12:53,373 --> 00:12:58,443 Now it's time to really focus on is michael there? 277 00:12:58,445 --> 00:13:00,712 Is his spirit there? Right. 278 00:13:00,714 --> 00:13:03,047 You know, meeting with some of their friends here. 279 00:13:03,049 --> 00:13:04,783 It's important to know what other spirits 280 00:13:04,785 --> 00:13:06,684 might be there besides michael. 281 00:13:06,686 --> 00:13:09,954 Is there something holding him there or tormenting him? 282 00:13:09,956 --> 00:13:12,423 Do you think it's here? Deanna: Yeah. 283 00:13:12,425 --> 00:13:14,793 But I think it might follow the family, I'm not sure, 284 00:13:14,795 --> 00:13:16,895 'cause they're grieving so bad and -- 285 00:13:16,897 --> 00:13:18,363 it's feeding off of that. Yeah. 286 00:13:18,365 --> 00:13:19,564 Yeah. 287 00:13:19,566 --> 00:13:20,732 All right. Thank you both. 288 00:13:20,734 --> 00:13:22,033 Thank you very much. I appreciate it. 289 00:13:22,035 --> 00:13:23,268 Thank you. Thank you. 290 00:13:23,270 --> 00:13:25,069 I think all the interviews that we have 291 00:13:25,071 --> 00:13:27,138 are important for the diagnosis. 292 00:13:27,140 --> 00:13:28,640 We're getting information from them. Zak: Yeah, 100%. 293 00:13:28,642 --> 00:13:30,241 We always get a little bit piece -- 294 00:13:30,243 --> 00:13:32,577 but it's my job, too, when I interview them personally, 295 00:13:32,579 --> 00:13:35,647 to see how genuine these interviews are. 296 00:13:35,649 --> 00:13:39,317 And what I was being told here was very compelling 297 00:13:39,319 --> 00:13:42,654 in that there were underlying spiritual experiences 298 00:13:42,656 --> 00:13:46,024 going on while michael was alive and even, 299 00:13:46,026 --> 00:13:49,394 you know, himself was dealing with some of this. 300 00:13:49,396 --> 00:13:51,262 Zak: Evidence of a sinister energy 301 00:13:51,264 --> 00:13:53,364 surrounding this family is mounting, 302 00:13:53,366 --> 00:13:56,334 confirming the presence of darkness in this house. 303 00:13:56,336 --> 00:13:57,869 Karon's daughter, jessica, 304 00:13:57,871 --> 00:14:00,471 describes her troubling observations 305 00:14:00,473 --> 00:14:02,006 when they first moved in. 306 00:14:02,008 --> 00:14:07,345 Zak: There's something else in this house that you have felt? 307 00:14:07,347 --> 00:14:09,747 Jessica: Yeah, I've felt a lot of things. 308 00:14:09,749 --> 00:14:11,115 There's definitely people. 309 00:14:11,117 --> 00:14:12,650 We came. They were already here. 310 00:14:12,652 --> 00:14:14,052 Okay. 311 00:14:14,054 --> 00:14:18,656 As long as I haven't got to to up there, I can manage. 312 00:14:18,658 --> 00:14:21,960 Is it the scene of where it occurred 313 00:14:21,962 --> 00:14:23,695 is what bothers you the most? 314 00:14:23,697 --> 00:14:26,698 I can't get past, like, the sixth stair. 315 00:14:26,700 --> 00:14:29,701 It feels like, you know, when you jump in cold water 316 00:14:29,703 --> 00:14:32,103 and your lungs... 317 00:14:32,105 --> 00:14:34,138 I get that, and I can't breathe. 318 00:14:34,140 --> 00:14:35,473 Zak: I wanted this whole family to help, 319 00:14:35,475 --> 00:14:37,542 but I didn't want to push them to do anything 320 00:14:37,544 --> 00:14:38,943 that made them uncomfortable. 321 00:14:38,945 --> 00:14:40,478 I know that, already, 322 00:14:40,480 --> 00:14:44,148 they're not in their normal everyday life at this point, 323 00:14:44,150 --> 00:14:46,317 because they're dealing with a loss, with grieving. 324 00:14:46,319 --> 00:14:48,653 You know, I just went through grieving of my father, 325 00:14:48,655 --> 00:14:50,855 and that was about a year, you know, 326 00:14:50,857 --> 00:14:52,857 but the first three months were -- 327 00:14:52,859 --> 00:14:53,958 you're just not yourself. 328 00:14:53,960 --> 00:14:55,627 It's a really weird feeling. 329 00:14:55,629 --> 00:14:57,829 So I didn't want to push them too hard. 330 00:14:57,831 --> 00:14:59,564 And they're re-living it, talking it. 331 00:14:59,566 --> 00:15:01,499 And it's a little more intense, too. Yeah. 332 00:15:01,501 --> 00:15:04,836 Zak: Jessica decides she wants to try and head up the stairs 333 00:15:04,838 --> 00:15:08,139 in memory of her brother, but as she reaches the top, 334 00:15:08,141 --> 00:15:11,676 she is overpowered by pain and sadness. 335 00:15:11,678 --> 00:15:13,645 I can't go in there, I can tell you that much. 336 00:15:13,647 --> 00:15:15,413 It hurts. 337 00:15:15,415 --> 00:15:17,415 Once I got to the top of those stairs 338 00:15:17,417 --> 00:15:20,118 is the first time I felt something. 339 00:15:20,120 --> 00:15:22,220 I couldn't breathe. Billy: Exactly. 340 00:15:22,222 --> 00:15:25,556 Something was squeezing my chest there, 341 00:15:25,558 --> 00:15:27,525 and it debilitated me. 342 00:15:27,527 --> 00:15:28,993 I didn't know what this was, 343 00:15:28,995 --> 00:15:30,595 but other people are experiencing it. 344 00:15:30,597 --> 00:15:31,996 Billy, you experienced it. 345 00:15:31,998 --> 00:15:34,165 Yeah, I experienced it, too, same spot. 346 00:15:34,167 --> 00:15:38,403 Zak: Jessica's sister, alicia, describes multiple experiences 347 00:15:38,405 --> 00:15:43,641 she had both before and after this most recent tragedy. 348 00:15:43,643 --> 00:15:48,980 Was there an influx of activity here after your brother's death? 349 00:15:48,982 --> 00:15:50,381 Oh, absolutely. 350 00:15:50,383 --> 00:15:52,750 And what type of activity? 351 00:15:52,752 --> 00:15:55,720 You could just feel him when you'd walk in the door. 352 00:15:55,722 --> 00:15:58,990 It was just this electric kind of energy. 353 00:15:58,992 --> 00:16:01,292 ♪♪ 354 00:16:01,294 --> 00:16:03,394 the family friend who cleaned the bathroom 355 00:16:03,396 --> 00:16:06,130 where michael had shot himself -- 356 00:16:06,132 --> 00:16:08,132 he had been talking to my brother, 357 00:16:08,134 --> 00:16:09,434 you know, "why did you do this?" 358 00:16:09,436 --> 00:16:11,769 he was close to my brother. He was angry with him. 359 00:16:11,771 --> 00:16:14,872 He had cleaner on the counter when he was cleaning. 360 00:16:14,874 --> 00:16:16,641 He witnessed it fly off the counter. 361 00:16:16,643 --> 00:16:19,410 He did? Mm-hmm. 362 00:16:19,412 --> 00:16:21,045 Poltergeist activity -- 363 00:16:21,047 --> 00:16:23,348 that means "I want your attention." 364 00:16:23,350 --> 00:16:24,882 right. Knock something off. 365 00:16:24,884 --> 00:16:26,317 "I'm here. I need your attention. 366 00:16:26,319 --> 00:16:29,253 Please look at me. Please notice me." 367 00:16:29,255 --> 00:16:31,356 how many times when we're investigating, at first, 368 00:16:31,358 --> 00:16:33,191 it might not feel it, it might not be as dark, 369 00:16:33,193 --> 00:16:35,159 but the deeper we get, we start drawing out information. 370 00:16:35,161 --> 00:16:36,461 Right. 371 00:16:36,463 --> 00:16:38,763 Then that dark energy starts making its presence known 372 00:16:38,765 --> 00:16:40,665 and starts, I think, trying to stop us. 373 00:16:40,667 --> 00:16:41,899 Right. 374 00:16:41,901 --> 00:16:44,836 Did michael ever complain about ghosts or spirits? 375 00:16:44,838 --> 00:16:47,305 His way of complaining was a little bit different. 376 00:16:47,307 --> 00:16:48,272 Yeah. 377 00:16:48,274 --> 00:16:50,108 But he would say things like, 378 00:16:50,110 --> 00:16:51,976 "I need to get out of this house. 379 00:16:51,978 --> 00:16:55,013 I can't stay here anymore. I need to get out." 380 00:16:55,015 --> 00:16:56,414 and he could never really -- 381 00:16:56,416 --> 00:16:58,016 couldn't detail the experiences. 382 00:16:58,018 --> 00:16:59,217 Exactly. 383 00:16:59,219 --> 00:17:01,986 Do you believe that it was because he was being 384 00:17:01,988 --> 00:17:04,355 influenced by something unseen... 385 00:17:04,357 --> 00:17:06,224 I do. ...Of a spirit or force? 386 00:17:06,226 --> 00:17:07,725 I do, I really do. Okay. 387 00:17:07,727 --> 00:17:09,861 And do you think this spirit or force 388 00:17:09,863 --> 00:17:13,731 could be something dark that is attached to your mother 389 00:17:13,733 --> 00:17:15,933 and has influenced your other relatives? 390 00:17:15,935 --> 00:17:18,936 Yes. Yes. 391 00:17:18,938 --> 00:17:20,338 Again, I've never said this to her, 392 00:17:20,340 --> 00:17:24,742 but when we lived in a different house in hayward, 393 00:17:24,744 --> 00:17:27,011 there were ghosts there. 394 00:17:27,013 --> 00:17:28,179 I saw them myself. 395 00:17:28,181 --> 00:17:30,581 So activity has been around your family 396 00:17:30,583 --> 00:17:31,783 since you were little. 397 00:17:31,785 --> 00:17:33,451 It's been around as long as I can remember. 398 00:17:33,453 --> 00:17:35,953 Remember, this was like a curve ball. 399 00:17:35,955 --> 00:17:37,789 Like, there was ghosts at the other house. 400 00:17:37,791 --> 00:17:38,923 But what does that tell you? 401 00:17:38,925 --> 00:17:41,059 So, like, that's when we were leaning towards 402 00:17:41,061 --> 00:17:42,427 generational demon, possibly. 403 00:17:42,429 --> 00:17:43,895 Exactly. 404 00:17:43,897 --> 00:17:47,632 Possibly a generational demon, or just strong attachments... 405 00:17:47,634 --> 00:17:49,300 Yeah. ...You know, of something. 406 00:17:49,302 --> 00:17:52,770 You think it affects the men in your family... Yes. 407 00:17:52,772 --> 00:17:54,439 ...In a more negative way? 408 00:17:54,441 --> 00:17:56,941 Yes. Yes. Absolutely. Absolutely. 409 00:17:56,943 --> 00:17:59,911 I don't know how to explain what happened to don. 410 00:17:59,913 --> 00:18:01,112 And when don lived here, 411 00:18:01,114 --> 00:18:04,182 did he ever complain of spirits or anything? 412 00:18:04,184 --> 00:18:08,853 Don wasn't that kind of guy, but I noticed a lot, 413 00:18:08,855 --> 00:18:11,656 when he would be in this house, he would get very angry. 414 00:18:11,658 --> 00:18:14,225 So this would just be a sudden change of rage? 415 00:18:14,227 --> 00:18:15,326 Sudden. 416 00:18:15,328 --> 00:18:16,994 And if he lived there for 10 years, 417 00:18:16,996 --> 00:18:18,529 he's probably haunting that house, 418 00:18:18,531 --> 00:18:19,931 'cause that's a house he liked. 419 00:18:19,933 --> 00:18:21,299 When I was about 15, 420 00:18:21,301 --> 00:18:23,768 and I had turned the tv off for the night, 421 00:18:23,770 --> 00:18:25,903 when I rolled back towards my tv, 422 00:18:25,905 --> 00:18:27,371 there was a face in the tv. 423 00:18:27,373 --> 00:18:28,773 You saw a face in your tv? 424 00:18:28,775 --> 00:18:30,041 I saw a face in my tv. 425 00:18:30,043 --> 00:18:32,076 Was it off? It was off. It had been off. 426 00:18:32,078 --> 00:18:33,511 What did the face look like? 427 00:18:33,513 --> 00:18:35,513 He had black eyes. In your television? 428 00:18:35,515 --> 00:18:36,914 And I screamed. In this house? 429 00:18:36,916 --> 00:18:37,982 In this house. 430 00:18:37,984 --> 00:18:39,183 That's not good. 431 00:18:39,185 --> 00:18:43,354 Now this is now spinning the investigation into... 432 00:18:43,356 --> 00:18:45,123 What's attacking this family? 433 00:18:45,125 --> 00:18:47,525 ...Is the family being influenced by evil? 434 00:18:47,527 --> 00:18:50,995 Is the family being influenced by these generational demons 435 00:18:50,997 --> 00:18:53,965 that have affected previous family members 436 00:18:53,967 --> 00:18:57,535 that also, coincidentally, committed suicide? 437 00:18:57,537 --> 00:19:01,939 ♪♪ 438 00:19:03,743 --> 00:19:09,280 ♪♪ 439 00:19:09,282 --> 00:19:11,849 zak: As we investigate this residence, 440 00:19:11,851 --> 00:19:13,784 jay and dakota will be in the backyard 441 00:19:13,786 --> 00:19:17,488 monitoring a live nerve center. 442 00:19:17,490 --> 00:19:19,991 Michael, this is zak from the tv show 443 00:19:19,993 --> 00:19:22,627 "ghost adventures" that you used to watch. 444 00:19:22,629 --> 00:19:24,595 We're with your grieving family, 445 00:19:24,597 --> 00:19:27,665 who claims that activity in the house has really picked up. 446 00:19:27,667 --> 00:19:30,535 Soon, I'm gonna bring your mother and your sister inside. 447 00:19:30,537 --> 00:19:32,570 Then I'm gonna bring a man that has a gift. 448 00:19:32,572 --> 00:19:34,472 He can see you visually. 449 00:19:34,474 --> 00:19:37,642 Does this all sound okay with you? 450 00:19:37,644 --> 00:19:39,677 [ clears throat ] what's going on? 451 00:19:39,679 --> 00:19:41,179 Heart rate just went out of control. 452 00:19:41,181 --> 00:19:42,980 Remember, I said this happened here earlier. 453 00:19:42,982 --> 00:19:43,814 Yeah. 454 00:19:43,816 --> 00:19:46,350 Ooh. 455 00:19:46,352 --> 00:19:49,387 This is where I started getting a little bit of anxiety 456 00:19:49,389 --> 00:19:50,688 and something was coming at, 457 00:19:50,690 --> 00:19:53,925 and I feel that it was one of the darker energies. 458 00:19:53,927 --> 00:19:56,761 I didn't feel like it was the son or anything like that. 459 00:19:56,763 --> 00:19:58,262 I felt it was something totally different. 460 00:19:58,264 --> 00:20:01,666 And that's when it amped and we started getting all this stuff. 461 00:20:01,668 --> 00:20:02,700 Well, we got this. 462 00:20:02,702 --> 00:20:04,068 Zak: Michael, I know you know what this is. 463 00:20:04,070 --> 00:20:06,938 You've seen us use it on our show before. 464 00:20:06,940 --> 00:20:08,039 Remember? 465 00:20:08,041 --> 00:20:09,640 [ tap ] 466 00:20:09,642 --> 00:20:10,741 what was that? 467 00:20:10,743 --> 00:20:12,109 That was pretty loud, dude. What was that? 468 00:20:12,111 --> 00:20:13,911 It was right over here on the table. 469 00:20:13,913 --> 00:20:16,547 Zak: All of a sudden, as I'm addressing michael, 470 00:20:16,549 --> 00:20:19,150 we all hear a loud noise on this table, 471 00:20:19,152 --> 00:20:21,452 but there's no camera aiming in that direction 472 00:20:21,454 --> 00:20:23,321 to see if something moves. 473 00:20:23,323 --> 00:20:25,323 I mean, what seems so simple, 474 00:20:25,325 --> 00:20:27,692 maybe, to our viewers of a loud noise coming 475 00:20:27,694 --> 00:20:30,695 just -- this was right, 12 feet, in front of us. 476 00:20:30,697 --> 00:20:32,730 It's really loud. Yeah. 477 00:20:32,732 --> 00:20:37,068 I mean, something on that table was hit or moved. 478 00:20:37,070 --> 00:20:39,070 Zak: Were you trying to move something on the table? 479 00:20:39,072 --> 00:20:41,372 What was that noise? 480 00:20:41,374 --> 00:20:44,675 Can you do it again? 481 00:20:44,677 --> 00:20:46,244 Oh. 482 00:20:46,246 --> 00:20:47,278 It was loud. 483 00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:48,479 Oh. 484 00:20:51,384 --> 00:20:53,184 Oh, god, my stomach hurts. 485 00:20:53,186 --> 00:20:54,719 Oh. Billy: Did you hear that? 486 00:20:56,022 --> 00:20:57,822 Oh. I thought it was upstairs. 487 00:20:57,824 --> 00:20:58,990 That was weird. 488 00:21:00,927 --> 00:21:02,360 [ exhales deeply ] 489 00:21:02,362 --> 00:21:04,295 is it the same thing that hit you, zak, over there, probably? 490 00:21:04,297 --> 00:21:05,630 Oh, yeah, didn't you feel like you felt sick earlier? 491 00:21:05,632 --> 00:21:06,931 When you first came in? 492 00:21:06,933 --> 00:21:07,965 Felt dizzy, he said. 493 00:21:07,967 --> 00:21:09,200 Oh. 494 00:21:09,202 --> 00:21:11,569 Do you think that michael would do something like this 495 00:21:11,571 --> 00:21:12,737 to make us feel bad? 496 00:21:12,739 --> 00:21:13,871 I think it's the other spirits, 497 00:21:13,873 --> 00:21:15,139 maybe trying to stop us from helping him. 498 00:21:15,141 --> 00:21:16,340 Yeah, michael wouldn't be trying to make you feel bad. 499 00:21:16,342 --> 00:21:18,976 Or we could also be feeling the pain... 500 00:21:18,978 --> 00:21:20,478 True. ...That michael is feeling... 501 00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:22,480 That's true. ...And be interpreting it differently. 502 00:21:22,482 --> 00:21:25,149 It was a tough investigation because of that. 503 00:21:25,151 --> 00:21:28,286 I mean, just imagine going into a room with a bad person 504 00:21:28,288 --> 00:21:31,756 and a good person, and you got ear plugs in, 505 00:21:31,758 --> 00:21:34,492 you've got a blindfold on, and you're just feeling around. 506 00:21:34,494 --> 00:21:37,094 And then you're near the really bad killer person, 507 00:21:37,096 --> 00:21:39,730 and you're, like, "oh, this might be the good person". 508 00:21:39,732 --> 00:21:41,599 You've got to use your emotions, your abilities, 509 00:21:41,601 --> 00:21:44,835 your sensitivities, to determine what this is. 510 00:21:44,837 --> 00:21:46,771 Zak: Being inside this house, you never know 511 00:21:46,773 --> 00:21:50,474 when an energy of emotions will suddenly debilitate you. 512 00:21:50,476 --> 00:21:52,777 And, as aaron continues to become emotional... 513 00:21:52,779 --> 00:21:54,879 Oh, god, that was crazy. 514 00:21:54,881 --> 00:21:57,648 Zak: ...I start to feel a sharp pain in my stomach... 515 00:21:57,650 --> 00:21:59,116 Ow, ow! 516 00:21:59,118 --> 00:22:02,787 ...At the same exact time that an ice-cold air mass hits us. 517 00:22:02,789 --> 00:22:04,422 Billy: Holy [bleep]! What? 518 00:22:04,424 --> 00:22:05,923 Feel that cold air right here. 519 00:22:05,925 --> 00:22:07,124 Aaron: Think my camera's freezing. 520 00:22:07,126 --> 00:22:10,061 Michael, is this you here, walked up on us? 521 00:22:10,063 --> 00:22:11,562 Crazy how we all three were together. 522 00:22:11,564 --> 00:22:13,164 I'm getting hurt, the energy goes up. 523 00:22:13,166 --> 00:22:14,932 Next minute, someone else, energy goes up. 524 00:22:14,934 --> 00:22:17,034 It uses our energy to actually amp this. 525 00:22:17,036 --> 00:22:18,336 Well, you felt it. And zak felt it. 526 00:22:18,338 --> 00:22:20,104 The cold air was a manifestation. Oh, sure. 527 00:22:20,106 --> 00:22:21,839 It was a spirit in front of us. 528 00:22:21,841 --> 00:22:27,011 It was manifesting, and it was leaving the air extremely cold. 529 00:22:27,013 --> 00:22:28,713 Zak: We immediately begin setting up 530 00:22:28,715 --> 00:22:30,948 the live-talking evp device 531 00:22:30,950 --> 00:22:34,418 to see if this is, indeed, michael or a different spirit. 532 00:22:34,420 --> 00:22:35,986 And, as we are doing this, 533 00:22:35,988 --> 00:22:39,623 the back door unexplainably opens by itself. 534 00:22:39,625 --> 00:22:41,659 [ indistinct chatter ] 535 00:22:42,729 --> 00:22:45,196 [ door hinges creaking ] 536 00:22:45,198 --> 00:22:47,164 what was -- [bleep]. 537 00:22:47,166 --> 00:22:51,502 Guys, guys, guys, the door's opening by itself back here. 538 00:22:51,504 --> 00:22:54,171 Oh, my god. 539 00:22:54,173 --> 00:22:56,707 Aaron: Guys, this was shut. Yeah, no, that just opened. 540 00:22:56,709 --> 00:22:58,676 Yeah, we just witnessed it open up by itself. 541 00:22:58,678 --> 00:23:00,177 Oh, my god, dude. 542 00:23:00,179 --> 00:23:02,046 So, at this point, the door did open. 543 00:23:02,048 --> 00:23:03,514 We were unable to determine 544 00:23:03,516 --> 00:23:06,484 whether or not, maybe, a little breeze of wind did that. 545 00:23:06,486 --> 00:23:08,352 But we were able to look at the curtains 546 00:23:08,354 --> 00:23:10,154 and look at other things at that time, 547 00:23:10,156 --> 00:23:12,857 to say even the plastic on the tent there, 548 00:23:12,859 --> 00:23:14,959 to see there wasn't any strong winds. 549 00:23:14,961 --> 00:23:17,595 I remember there wasn't a storm. It wasn't windy or anything. 550 00:23:17,597 --> 00:23:18,796 Billy: No. 551 00:23:18,798 --> 00:23:21,632 Second-time poltergeists. You know what I'm saying? 552 00:23:21,634 --> 00:23:23,834 So, something actually turned the handle to open it. 553 00:23:23,836 --> 00:23:25,002 It had to. 554 00:23:25,004 --> 00:23:26,804 Zak: Here is an earlier shot of billy 555 00:23:26,806 --> 00:23:29,974 making sure this door is completely shut. 556 00:23:29,976 --> 00:23:32,276 Were you able to get anything on camera from out there? 557 00:23:32,278 --> 00:23:34,345 Jay: Well, this camera, I mean, you can't see the door, 558 00:23:34,347 --> 00:23:37,181 but I don't think you can actually see past this thing. 559 00:23:40,686 --> 00:23:42,686 Zak: Because all of this activity, 560 00:23:42,688 --> 00:23:44,455 I turn on the spirit box, 561 00:23:44,457 --> 00:23:48,325 and, as I do, we receive this chilling response. 562 00:23:48,327 --> 00:23:50,928 [ oscillating static, indistinct voice ] 563 00:23:50,930 --> 00:23:52,396 did it say, "I need your help"? 564 00:23:52,398 --> 00:23:54,932 Aaron: Yeah. It said, "need your help." 565 00:23:57,136 --> 00:24:00,271 I mean, you've got to remember, if michael is there, he sees us. 566 00:24:00,273 --> 00:24:03,674 He knows that he's watched our episodes of "ghost adventures." 567 00:24:03,676 --> 00:24:05,009 he wants to get our attention. 568 00:24:05,011 --> 00:24:06,444 -All: Yeah. -You know? 569 00:24:06,446 --> 00:24:09,647 It's like someone stalking, maybe, an earthquake collapse, 570 00:24:09,649 --> 00:24:11,215 and you're just there for days and days 571 00:24:11,217 --> 00:24:12,516 screaming "help" and "help" and "help," 572 00:24:12,518 --> 00:24:14,618 but, finally, you hear a voice that you recognize. 573 00:24:14,620 --> 00:24:16,954 And the more excited we get, or the more spooked, 574 00:24:16,956 --> 00:24:19,190 it uses that energy to do things. 575 00:24:19,192 --> 00:24:21,959 Zak: This is an extremely emotional response, 576 00:24:21,961 --> 00:24:23,394 and because of that, 577 00:24:23,396 --> 00:24:26,297 it is time for us to invite michael's mother and sister 578 00:24:26,299 --> 00:24:27,798 into the investigation. 579 00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:29,967 As I begin making my way up the stairs 580 00:24:29,969 --> 00:24:32,002 to try to capture michael's voice, 581 00:24:32,004 --> 00:24:34,872 I'm not prepared for the emotional event 582 00:24:34,874 --> 00:24:36,740 that is about to occur. 583 00:24:36,742 --> 00:24:38,709 Michael, can you see us? 584 00:24:38,711 --> 00:24:42,046 [ oscillating static ] 585 00:24:42,048 --> 00:24:43,714 [ indistinct voice ] 586 00:24:43,716 --> 00:24:45,182 aaron: Whoa! "say something." 587 00:24:46,419 --> 00:24:47,451 what? 588 00:24:47,453 --> 00:24:48,619 It was michael. 589 00:24:48,621 --> 00:24:50,654 What, karon? Oh, god, I've got chills. 590 00:24:52,758 --> 00:24:54,124 Mi-- oh! Oh. 591 00:24:54,126 --> 00:24:55,626 Aaron: Bringing them in here was amazing. 592 00:24:55,628 --> 00:25:01,432 Family recognized the voice as michael's voice, 593 00:25:01,434 --> 00:25:04,802 and you can see by the reactions on their faces 594 00:25:04,804 --> 00:25:08,272 that this was a very, very important moment, 595 00:25:08,274 --> 00:25:11,709 if not the most important moment in the entire investigation. 596 00:25:11,711 --> 00:25:14,044 It worked. This worked. 597 00:25:14,046 --> 00:25:18,048 ♪♪ 598 00:25:19,852 --> 00:25:24,021 ♪♪ 599 00:25:24,023 --> 00:25:26,957 zak: In oakdale, california, we just heard a voice 600 00:25:26,959 --> 00:25:30,561 that sounded like karon's deceased son, michael. 601 00:25:32,198 --> 00:25:33,330 Aaron: Whoa! 602 00:25:35,568 --> 00:25:37,468 Immediately after this voice, 603 00:25:37,470 --> 00:25:39,937 I feel something grab me on my rear end, 604 00:25:39,939 --> 00:25:42,039 and I have no idea that, earlier, 605 00:25:42,041 --> 00:25:45,676 the family asked michael to do this to me. 606 00:25:45,678 --> 00:25:47,945 Something touched me back here. 607 00:25:47,947 --> 00:25:50,180 We asked him to do that. Oh, my god. 608 00:25:50,182 --> 00:25:51,215 What? 609 00:25:51,217 --> 00:25:53,050 When we were outside. 610 00:25:53,052 --> 00:25:54,151 What? 611 00:25:54,153 --> 00:25:58,355 We specifically asked michael to touch you. 612 00:25:58,357 --> 00:25:59,623 On your butt. 613 00:25:59,625 --> 00:26:01,425 Billy: See, it was like a happy moment for them 614 00:26:01,427 --> 00:26:03,427 because they got their validation. 615 00:26:03,429 --> 00:26:06,330 He is there. He does hear us. 616 00:26:06,332 --> 00:26:09,066 When that happened, I actually, like, felt a great deal 617 00:26:09,068 --> 00:26:11,468 of satisfaction that he's there listening. 618 00:26:11,470 --> 00:26:12,803 And then you have three elements there. 619 00:26:12,805 --> 00:26:14,905 You have us getting the evidence, 620 00:26:14,907 --> 00:26:17,308 experiencing his spirit directly -- me. 621 00:26:17,310 --> 00:26:19,410 You have the reaction from his mother 622 00:26:19,412 --> 00:26:21,912 and his sister validating it's him. 623 00:26:21,914 --> 00:26:23,581 And then you have michael, who's there. 624 00:26:23,583 --> 00:26:25,115 That's a triangle of energy 625 00:26:25,117 --> 00:26:27,284 that I believe has connected to him. 626 00:26:27,286 --> 00:26:29,787 Zak: As I turn the spirit box back on, 627 00:26:29,789 --> 00:26:33,157 another emotional response comes through. 628 00:26:33,159 --> 00:26:35,626 Michael, can you give them a message? 629 00:26:35,628 --> 00:26:37,361 [ indistinct voice ] "mom." 630 00:26:37,363 --> 00:26:39,496 "mom!" he said, "mom!" oh! 631 00:26:39,498 --> 00:26:40,664 He said, "mom". 632 00:26:40,666 --> 00:26:42,866 That's what it sounded like. I heard "mom". 633 00:26:42,868 --> 00:26:44,435 Oh, baby, you're doing good. 634 00:26:44,437 --> 00:26:46,270 Aaron: That's right -- "mom". 635 00:26:46,272 --> 00:26:48,205 God, this -- was incredible. 636 00:26:48,207 --> 00:26:49,707 Chills, just an emotional... 637 00:26:49,709 --> 00:26:51,075 Aaron: Oh, hoo. 638 00:26:51,077 --> 00:26:53,310 I think that was him, but, like, I just want to throw out, 639 00:26:53,312 --> 00:26:56,347 you have to be careful, too, 'cause if it is something dark, 640 00:26:56,349 --> 00:26:59,083 they're gonna try to be something to comfort you... 641 00:26:59,085 --> 00:27:01,385 Yeah. ...And then trick the mother into thinking -- 642 00:27:01,387 --> 00:27:02,753 but I think this was... I think it was, too, though. 643 00:27:02,755 --> 00:27:04,855 ...Because they heard his voice, the butt grab was a joke. 644 00:27:04,857 --> 00:27:06,857 And "mom" -- it all tied in. 645 00:27:06,859 --> 00:27:08,726 I think in this case, though, we're all like, 646 00:27:08,728 --> 00:27:10,461 "oh, we've got to the careful. It could be this". 647 00:27:10,463 --> 00:27:13,397 I think at this point, love is stronger than... 648 00:27:13,399 --> 00:27:15,065 Yeah. I agree. 649 00:27:15,067 --> 00:27:18,702 Zak: It is now time to invite world-renowned psychic medium 650 00:27:18,704 --> 00:27:20,771 and our good friend, chris fleming, 651 00:27:20,773 --> 00:27:24,008 into the investigation to try to help the family 652 00:27:24,010 --> 00:27:26,243 as well as the spirit of michael. 653 00:27:26,245 --> 00:27:28,078 It's like I can't sit still. 654 00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:30,581 Zak: Yeah, there's a lot of high anxiety in there. 655 00:27:30,583 --> 00:27:31,949 It just hits you. Yeah. 656 00:27:31,951 --> 00:27:33,951 By doing this, it's calming me, you know? 657 00:27:33,953 --> 00:27:36,186 By playing with my fingers and my hands. 658 00:27:36,188 --> 00:27:37,921 I like how he shows up now. 659 00:27:37,923 --> 00:27:39,490 We got the little closure with the son, 660 00:27:39,492 --> 00:27:40,958 but now he's coming in to explain 661 00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:42,426 what else is in the room... More details. 662 00:27:42,428 --> 00:27:44,628 ...And then we go in there and try to get rid of the evil. 663 00:27:44,630 --> 00:27:46,130 You know? -Yeah. 664 00:27:51,737 --> 00:27:52,770 He's just right on. 665 00:27:52,772 --> 00:27:54,705 So he picks up on a man and a woman, 666 00:27:54,707 --> 00:27:58,876 and he has no idea that her fiancé committed suicide 667 00:27:58,878 --> 00:28:00,778 and that her grandmother committed suicide. 668 00:28:00,780 --> 00:28:02,846 He just called out both of them. 669 00:28:02,848 --> 00:28:04,782 Right. If it's who he was sensing. 670 00:28:04,784 --> 00:28:06,050 Zak: This is chris fleming. 671 00:28:06,052 --> 00:28:07,551 Hi, chris. I'm karon. 672 00:28:07,553 --> 00:28:08,852 Karon, nice to meet you. Mom. 673 00:28:08,854 --> 00:28:09,887 You okay? 674 00:28:11,791 --> 00:28:13,457 [ exhales ] 675 00:28:16,562 --> 00:28:21,899 there's a lot of sorry, "I am sorry" coming through. 676 00:28:21,901 --> 00:28:23,033 I'll show you. 677 00:28:23,035 --> 00:28:25,703 Okay. I'm ready. 678 00:28:25,705 --> 00:28:26,970 I want to see. 679 00:28:26,972 --> 00:28:28,038 It was a powerful moment. 680 00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:30,240 You can just see the relief that she has. 681 00:28:30,242 --> 00:28:32,409 He says, "I'll prove to you that I'm okay". 682 00:28:32,411 --> 00:28:33,644 Okay. 683 00:28:33,646 --> 00:28:36,547 He's also saying, "I thought about it for a while". 684 00:28:36,549 --> 00:28:38,015 Zak: He thought about what for a while? 685 00:28:38,017 --> 00:28:40,317 Taking his life? 686 00:28:43,222 --> 00:28:46,557 Let me ask you this. Who's the man? 687 00:28:46,559 --> 00:28:50,961 There was a man just -- is there someone else who passed away? 688 00:28:50,963 --> 00:28:52,329 Did his father pass away? 689 00:28:52,331 --> 00:28:54,598 Did someone pass away that is male? 690 00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:57,468 'cause there's a male in this house, too. 691 00:28:57,470 --> 00:29:01,638 Yes. Another male that lived in this house. 692 00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:04,775 Zak: Karon's fiancé, who lived in this house, 693 00:29:04,777 --> 00:29:06,710 also committed suicide, 694 00:29:06,712 --> 00:29:09,046 but some claim that he was murdered. 695 00:29:09,048 --> 00:29:12,049 Do you remember right when chris fleming arrived, 696 00:29:12,051 --> 00:29:14,351 that he said that he was having visions in the car? 697 00:29:14,353 --> 00:29:16,453 On his way there. Before he had any information. 698 00:29:16,455 --> 00:29:18,055 Chris says that a lot. 699 00:29:18,057 --> 00:29:20,257 He has a good connection with kind of foreseeing 700 00:29:20,259 --> 00:29:21,492 or having things come to him 701 00:29:21,494 --> 00:29:23,260 even before he gets to the place. 702 00:29:23,262 --> 00:29:27,598 We all begin hearing noises or footsteps coming from upstairs. 703 00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:31,668 ♪♪ 704 00:29:31,670 --> 00:29:33,003 it sounds like footsteps. 705 00:29:33,005 --> 00:29:34,538 Aaron: It's hardwood floor, it'd be the bathroom 706 00:29:34,540 --> 00:29:36,406 because it was all carpet, you know what I'm saying? 707 00:29:36,408 --> 00:29:37,574 It was carpeted hallway. 708 00:29:37,576 --> 00:29:38,876 That is a good point. 709 00:29:38,878 --> 00:29:40,310 You do hear a hard surface, 710 00:29:40,312 --> 00:29:42,446 and the only hard surface up there is the bathroom. 711 00:29:42,448 --> 00:29:45,082 Zak: Karon and I think that it's a good idea at this point 712 00:29:45,084 --> 00:29:48,352 for chris to read her son's suicide letter 713 00:29:48,354 --> 00:29:52,523 so he can connect with the energy that's infused within it. 714 00:29:57,263 --> 00:29:58,929 It really hit him. Billy: Yeah. 715 00:29:58,931 --> 00:30:02,266 Him reading this letter really, really got to chris. 716 00:30:04,970 --> 00:30:11,008 ♪♪ 717 00:30:11,010 --> 00:30:13,210 zak: Michael, someone is here 718 00:30:13,212 --> 00:30:16,213 that can see you a lot better than we can. 719 00:30:16,215 --> 00:30:18,982 He read your letter just like I did. 720 00:30:18,984 --> 00:30:22,186 I'm gonna bring him towards your room. 721 00:30:22,188 --> 00:30:23,687 [ exhales sharply ] 722 00:30:23,689 --> 00:30:25,589 he just came out of the wall right behind you, 723 00:30:25,591 --> 00:30:27,791 in between you and I, and he went back in. 724 00:30:27,793 --> 00:30:30,360 Aaron: This is where chris started sensing the boy, 725 00:30:30,362 --> 00:30:31,395 the son, right? 726 00:30:31,397 --> 00:30:33,363 Coming out of the wall, 727 00:30:33,365 --> 00:30:35,866 in the same spot where the family told us 728 00:30:35,868 --> 00:30:37,668 that that's always where michael would stand. 729 00:30:37,670 --> 00:30:39,169 Yeah, he didn't know any of that coming into it. 730 00:30:39,171 --> 00:30:40,204 He didn't know anything! Any details. 731 00:30:40,206 --> 00:30:41,805 Zero. He didn't know anything. 732 00:30:41,807 --> 00:30:43,740 That's what we do. We don't tell them anything. 733 00:30:43,742 --> 00:30:45,509 No! That's why we bring them in. 734 00:30:45,511 --> 00:30:47,711 It makes it amazing every time. 735 00:30:47,713 --> 00:30:52,082 ♪♪ 736 00:30:53,886 --> 00:30:58,121 ♪♪ 737 00:30:58,123 --> 00:31:01,525 zak: As we investigate a house in northern california, 738 00:31:01,527 --> 00:31:03,994 chris sees michael come out of this wall 739 00:31:03,996 --> 00:31:06,096 just behind the railing seen here. 740 00:31:06,098 --> 00:31:07,664 Billy: And that's where michael would always stand, 741 00:31:07,666 --> 00:31:09,333 at the top of the stairs, right there. 742 00:31:09,335 --> 00:31:12,269 Chris says that he sees his spirit coming out of the wall. 743 00:31:12,271 --> 00:31:14,905 Remember that because, later, when I have the sls camera, 744 00:31:14,907 --> 00:31:17,774 I document something to give him a lot of credence to that. 745 00:31:17,776 --> 00:31:19,243 That's right. 746 00:31:19,245 --> 00:31:21,211 Zak: As chris is standing in the exact spot 747 00:31:21,213 --> 00:31:24,014 where michael took his own life just over a month ago, 748 00:31:24,016 --> 00:31:26,617 he begins to channel michael's final thoughts 749 00:31:26,619 --> 00:31:28,752 before he pulled the trigger. 750 00:31:28,754 --> 00:31:32,256 He was shaking before, contemplating thinking about it, 751 00:31:32,258 --> 00:31:33,924 something he's thought of, 752 00:31:33,926 --> 00:31:37,561 but now he's in that moment where he's making a decision. 753 00:31:37,563 --> 00:31:39,897 And he's saying, "forgive me, forgive me. 754 00:31:39,899 --> 00:31:41,899 I don't know who I am anymore." 755 00:31:41,901 --> 00:31:43,467 and he keeps thinking of this weight, 756 00:31:43,469 --> 00:31:46,536 this thing that he's dealt with, that he can't get past it. 757 00:31:46,538 --> 00:31:48,639 But then he's saying, "forgive me," 758 00:31:48,641 --> 00:31:50,707 because he knows, "I'm not a bad kid. 759 00:31:50,709 --> 00:31:51,909 This isn't me. 760 00:31:51,911 --> 00:31:54,478 I want to know who I really am, 761 00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:59,516 and I'm not this, so I don't want this anymore." 762 00:31:59,518 --> 00:32:01,118 and then he says, "forgive me". 763 00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:03,020 It's like he's talking to someone else. 764 00:32:03,022 --> 00:32:05,956 Like he's talking to god, or who he's talking to, 765 00:32:05,958 --> 00:32:07,824 he's saying, "forgive me." 766 00:32:07,826 --> 00:32:09,693 that's got to be hard to do. 767 00:32:09,695 --> 00:32:11,662 This was hard for me, being in there. 768 00:32:11,664 --> 00:32:14,264 Like, and just for chris to open himself up to that, 769 00:32:14,266 --> 00:32:16,300 for the family to hear those words. 770 00:32:16,302 --> 00:32:17,334 Right. 771 00:32:21,540 --> 00:32:23,840 "she's helping me bring peace to myself, 772 00:32:23,842 --> 00:32:26,209 to know that I am more than just this. 773 00:32:26,211 --> 00:32:30,414 This was just an experience for me." 774 00:32:30,416 --> 00:32:32,316 it's as if she's reminding and telling him 775 00:32:32,318 --> 00:32:35,619 that you must let go of this, and you must elevate 776 00:32:35,621 --> 00:32:37,487 so you won't be trapped here. 777 00:32:37,489 --> 00:32:38,689 Poor guy. 778 00:32:38,691 --> 00:32:40,524 Michael, I hope we helped you there, buddy. 779 00:32:40,526 --> 00:32:41,892 Me, too. Oh, I'm sure we did. 780 00:32:41,894 --> 00:32:43,126 I hope we helped you. 781 00:32:46,699 --> 00:32:48,231 That was the man. 782 00:32:48,233 --> 00:32:51,935 Zak: Chris now begins to detect a darker male presence. 783 00:32:51,937 --> 00:32:55,405 Could this be karon's fiancé that chris detected earlier? 784 00:32:55,407 --> 00:32:56,707 There's a man in this house, too. 785 00:32:56,709 --> 00:33:00,477 Yes. Another male that lived in this house. 786 00:33:00,479 --> 00:33:04,348 Male's not good. Male wants him to stay here. 787 00:33:04,350 --> 00:33:07,851 So, this began to be very clear for chris, 788 00:33:07,853 --> 00:33:11,221 and you can see without hesitation he's picking this up. 789 00:33:11,223 --> 00:33:13,657 And that's probably the malevolent/big poltergeist 790 00:33:13,659 --> 00:33:14,825 sometimes, you know. 791 00:33:14,827 --> 00:33:16,727 Like, "get out of my house," pushing stuff. 792 00:33:16,729 --> 00:33:19,830 He's the one making the negativity happen, for sure. 793 00:33:19,832 --> 00:33:22,099 Zak: As chris tries to get a clear image 794 00:33:22,101 --> 00:33:25,635 of this darker male spirit, he heads into michael's bedroom, 795 00:33:25,637 --> 00:33:27,504 at which time I begin documenting 796 00:33:27,506 --> 00:33:29,339 a large figure behind him. 797 00:33:29,341 --> 00:33:34,911 ♪♪ 798 00:33:34,913 --> 00:33:37,481 zak: There's somebody in the closet. 799 00:33:37,483 --> 00:33:38,782 Chris: Yeah. 800 00:33:38,784 --> 00:33:42,386 There's somebody standing right next to you in the closet. 801 00:33:42,388 --> 00:33:44,054 They small or large? 802 00:33:44,056 --> 00:33:46,523 It's a large figure. 803 00:33:47,826 --> 00:33:49,359 He knows who I am. 804 00:33:49,361 --> 00:33:51,361 Zak: What's interesting is that we are looking at this figure, 805 00:33:51,363 --> 00:33:52,763 and at first we're like, 806 00:33:52,765 --> 00:33:55,065 "is it possibly matrixing something in the background". 807 00:33:55,067 --> 00:33:57,300 But the reason why we decided 808 00:33:57,302 --> 00:33:59,336 that this was an interesting piece of evidence 809 00:33:59,338 --> 00:34:01,004 is that it lifted its arm up 810 00:34:01,006 --> 00:34:03,306 in a gesture almost towards chris. 811 00:34:03,308 --> 00:34:05,042 That, to me, was really interesting. 812 00:34:05,044 --> 00:34:06,209 Yeah. 813 00:34:06,211 --> 00:34:08,712 Something's coming up my legs. 814 00:34:10,349 --> 00:34:11,782 My legs are feeling -- 815 00:34:11,784 --> 00:34:14,251 it's making itself known. Sit over here. Come over here. 816 00:34:14,253 --> 00:34:16,153 Hey, zak? Zak, come on in here. 817 00:34:16,155 --> 00:34:17,521 Huh? 818 00:34:17,523 --> 00:34:21,391 I want you to come forward. I sense you. 819 00:34:21,393 --> 00:34:24,428 If something comes through, allow it to come through. 820 00:34:24,430 --> 00:34:25,796 Okay, I'm gonna communicate with it. 821 00:34:25,798 --> 00:34:27,597 Who is this? Make yourself known. 822 00:34:27,599 --> 00:34:29,466 I demand that you make yourself known. 823 00:34:29,468 --> 00:34:34,004 I'm aware of your presence to her, your attachment. 824 00:34:34,006 --> 00:34:35,505 Come forward. 825 00:34:35,507 --> 00:34:38,208 Thank god he's here to help them and the family at the same time 826 00:34:38,210 --> 00:34:39,976 because, if he didn't come, 827 00:34:39,978 --> 00:34:42,112 maybe we wouldn't have got that closure for him. 828 00:34:42,114 --> 00:34:45,582 Yeah, I think his abilities helped us reach the depth 829 00:34:45,584 --> 00:34:49,019 that we wanted to reach with the communication. 830 00:34:49,021 --> 00:34:51,721 Sometimes, it seems like it's directed on who you should call, 831 00:34:51,723 --> 00:34:53,390 what person to bring in. Oh, yeah. 832 00:34:53,392 --> 00:34:55,225 You know, maybe you're guided to do that, 833 00:34:55,227 --> 00:34:56,993 that chris was the right fit for that. 834 00:34:56,995 --> 00:34:58,495 Oh, he was the perfect fit. 835 00:34:58,497 --> 00:35:00,764 Zak: As chris takes karon and her daughter 836 00:35:00,766 --> 00:35:03,100 outside and continues to assist them, 837 00:35:03,102 --> 00:35:06,536 I begin capturing another figure in the exact same spot 838 00:35:06,538 --> 00:35:10,540 where chris saw michael's spirit come out of the wall earlier. 839 00:35:10,542 --> 00:35:13,477 And it is now that I remember the family told me 840 00:35:13,479 --> 00:35:16,046 this was michael's favorite spot to stand. 841 00:35:16,048 --> 00:35:18,315 He would talk to the family 842 00:35:18,317 --> 00:35:22,686 from right in the middle of that hallway, looking down. 843 00:35:22,688 --> 00:35:25,755 With chris, billy, dakota, and the family out front, 844 00:35:25,757 --> 00:35:27,858 jay and myself at nerve center, 845 00:35:27,860 --> 00:35:31,328 and aaron, seen here, entering the downstairs bathroom, 846 00:35:31,330 --> 00:35:34,631 watch very closely what happens to this front door 847 00:35:34,633 --> 00:35:38,401 that's been open for over 15 minutes. 848 00:35:38,403 --> 00:35:41,138 Zak: Here's the biggest piece of evidence of the night. 849 00:35:41,140 --> 00:35:43,140 Look at that. Aaron goes into the bathroom. 850 00:35:43,142 --> 00:35:48,178 That door that's been open for 15 minutes shuts by itself. 851 00:35:48,180 --> 00:35:49,613 There's no wind at all. 852 00:35:49,615 --> 00:35:51,882 If there was wind outside, it would have pushed the door open. 853 00:35:51,884 --> 00:35:53,250 Right, it would have come in. Not shut it. 854 00:35:53,252 --> 00:35:54,651 Well, and it's happened twice in there. 855 00:35:54,653 --> 00:35:55,952 This is twice now. Twice. 856 00:35:55,954 --> 00:35:58,655 Yeah, this is twice. Two different doors, no wind. 857 00:35:58,657 --> 00:36:01,291 Zak: Did somebody just come up, open, and close this door? 858 00:36:01,293 --> 00:36:03,360 No. No, we've been out front this entire time, 859 00:36:03,362 --> 00:36:04,761 for at least five or 10 minutes. 860 00:36:04,763 --> 00:36:06,229 That door just opened and closed, 861 00:36:06,231 --> 00:36:07,597 we just saw it at nerve center. 862 00:36:07,599 --> 00:36:08,765 Oh! 863 00:36:08,767 --> 00:36:09,966 None of you guys came in up here? 864 00:36:09,968 --> 00:36:12,235 No, we've all been right here. 865 00:36:14,273 --> 00:36:16,039 That is very common here. 866 00:36:16,041 --> 00:36:18,275 Zak: Could this be the aggressive male spirit 867 00:36:18,277 --> 00:36:20,410 telling us to stay out of the house? 868 00:36:20,412 --> 00:36:22,245 The last little bit... Billy: Final push. 869 00:36:22,247 --> 00:36:23,446 ...Shut with force. 870 00:36:23,448 --> 00:36:25,749 It's going slow, it's going slow, and then slam. 871 00:36:25,751 --> 00:36:27,417 Then, get out. Like it picks up speed. 872 00:36:27,419 --> 00:36:30,754 That door slammed at the end. That was intent. 873 00:36:30,756 --> 00:36:33,023 It got the door going, and then it was -- urgh! 874 00:36:33,025 --> 00:36:34,391 Yeah. 875 00:36:34,393 --> 00:36:36,459 Who was outside, that they were shutting the door on? 876 00:36:36,461 --> 00:36:37,928 Chris. 877 00:36:37,930 --> 00:36:41,331 Was it the dark male spirit that chris just picked up on? 878 00:36:41,333 --> 00:36:44,334 Zak: As we go back inside to investigate the door, 879 00:36:44,336 --> 00:36:46,136 we hear something upstairs. 880 00:36:46,138 --> 00:36:48,238 What? 881 00:36:48,240 --> 00:36:49,306 Aaron: What was that? 882 00:36:52,110 --> 00:36:53,376 [ clicking ] 883 00:36:53,378 --> 00:36:55,011 that was upstairs. 884 00:36:55,013 --> 00:36:56,213 Billy: There's nobody up there. 885 00:36:56,215 --> 00:36:58,215 Zak: As we head up there to investigate, 886 00:36:58,217 --> 00:37:01,284 aaron and billy are both hit by a negative force of energy 887 00:37:01,286 --> 00:37:03,687 that topples them over like dominoes. 888 00:37:03,689 --> 00:37:06,122 Should we try spirit sweep? Billy: Dude. 889 00:37:06,124 --> 00:37:07,991 [bleep]. 890 00:37:07,993 --> 00:37:09,859 Aaron: Holy [bleep]! 891 00:37:09,861 --> 00:37:11,595 I feel like my hand's in a vice right now. 892 00:37:11,597 --> 00:37:14,197 If that dark spirit did shut the door on us, 893 00:37:14,199 --> 00:37:16,766 then it moves up the stairs and affects you and drops you. 894 00:37:16,768 --> 00:37:18,768 Aaron and me -- the both of us. 895 00:37:18,770 --> 00:37:20,637 You said, "what's wrong with you guys?" 896 00:37:20,639 --> 00:37:22,472 that's an interesting chain of events 897 00:37:22,474 --> 00:37:24,341 that I never really picked up on before. 898 00:37:24,343 --> 00:37:27,711 Now you know why this show is so important for us to do. 899 00:37:27,713 --> 00:37:32,682 ♪♪ 900 00:37:34,319 --> 00:37:38,555 ♪♪ 901 00:37:38,557 --> 00:37:41,324 zak: At this oakdale, california, residence, 902 00:37:41,326 --> 00:37:45,595 billy and aaron are overwhelmed by a dark energy. 903 00:37:45,597 --> 00:37:46,863 Zak: Bill? Billy: Hold on. 904 00:37:46,865 --> 00:37:51,167 I'm about to pass out, man. I'm not kidding. 905 00:37:51,169 --> 00:37:53,570 Bill? Aaron? 906 00:37:53,572 --> 00:37:54,738 Aaron! 907 00:37:58,543 --> 00:38:00,510 That was intense, and you were on the floor. 908 00:38:00,512 --> 00:38:01,978 Aaron: I couldn't get up. 909 00:38:01,980 --> 00:38:04,447 I've learned, when that happens to you, get out of the location. 910 00:38:04,449 --> 00:38:05,949 Go outside and get some fresh air 911 00:38:05,951 --> 00:38:09,252 because it's not gonna get better. 912 00:38:09,254 --> 00:38:11,921 We now decide to bring the spirit sweep device 913 00:38:11,923 --> 00:38:15,058 inside the house, and prepare yourselves at home 914 00:38:15,060 --> 00:38:18,228 because we are about to receive some incredible responses. 915 00:38:18,230 --> 00:38:21,431 Billy, talk to us about what the heck you guys got here. 916 00:38:21,433 --> 00:38:23,066 This blew me away. Billy: This was incredible. 917 00:38:23,068 --> 00:38:24,801 We're using the spirit sweep device. 918 00:38:24,803 --> 00:38:26,836 And chris, too -- chris couldn't believe it. 919 00:38:26,838 --> 00:38:28,772 Zak: Who's here? Can you say your name? 920 00:38:28,774 --> 00:38:31,141 [ indistinct voice ] 921 00:38:31,143 --> 00:38:33,109 "he heard me." 922 00:38:33,111 --> 00:38:34,511 we hear you. 923 00:38:34,513 --> 00:38:36,713 He's telling us "it hurts when it --" 924 00:38:36,715 --> 00:38:39,248 the last word, we can't make out. Can you? 925 00:38:39,250 --> 00:38:41,284 Who's here? Can you say your name? 926 00:38:45,724 --> 00:38:47,824 They're full sentences that comes with this device. 927 00:38:47,826 --> 00:38:49,626 And it just sounds like in an echo. 928 00:38:49,628 --> 00:38:52,162 It's almost like you're making a direct connection 929 00:38:52,164 --> 00:38:53,430 into the spirit world, 930 00:38:53,432 --> 00:38:55,165 and they're sending full sentences to you. 931 00:38:55,167 --> 00:38:57,667 But was that michael? "it hurts when I..." 932 00:38:57,669 --> 00:38:59,369 somebody in pain, we know that. 933 00:38:59,371 --> 00:39:00,970 Listen to that. 934 00:39:02,607 --> 00:39:03,640 Crystal clear. Yeah. 935 00:39:03,642 --> 00:39:05,075 -Aaron: The same voice. -Same voice. 936 00:39:05,077 --> 00:39:08,712 Zak: Now this spirit comes through and says, "one time." 937 00:39:08,714 --> 00:39:10,714 we hear you. 938 00:39:17,222 --> 00:39:19,589 As I ask who we are talking to, 939 00:39:19,591 --> 00:39:22,492 we receive this incredible response. 940 00:39:22,494 --> 00:39:24,060 I'm human. 941 00:39:27,466 --> 00:39:30,300 So, is michael using the electromagnetic spectrum 942 00:39:30,302 --> 00:39:32,936 within this device to now talk freely? 943 00:39:32,938 --> 00:39:35,872 Can I say this, that device was set exactly on the floor 944 00:39:35,874 --> 00:39:37,407 where we recovered the bullet. 945 00:39:37,409 --> 00:39:39,008 Right. I don't know if you realize that. 946 00:39:39,010 --> 00:39:41,644 Zak: Billy moves the spirit sweep to the top of the stairs 947 00:39:41,646 --> 00:39:45,315 where he claims he felt something squeezing his throat. 948 00:39:45,317 --> 00:39:48,585 Does the the man want to cross over? 949 00:39:48,587 --> 00:39:50,453 [ indistinct voice ] 950 00:39:50,455 --> 00:39:53,056 "the dimensions will be respected." did you hear that? 951 00:39:53,058 --> 00:39:55,425 "the dimensions will be respected". 952 00:39:55,427 --> 00:39:56,793 Zak: What do you make of that? 953 00:39:56,795 --> 00:40:00,463 "dimensions disrespected." 954 00:40:00,465 --> 00:40:03,400 wow! Seven syllables in the same voice. 955 00:40:03,402 --> 00:40:06,035 What do you make of that? "dimensions disrespected." 956 00:40:06,037 --> 00:40:07,404 maybe they don't like the fact 957 00:40:07,406 --> 00:40:09,639 that we're trying to tune into their world. 958 00:40:09,641 --> 00:40:11,474 We're disrespecting the dimensions. 959 00:40:11,476 --> 00:40:13,209 "stay in your lane." that's a good point. 960 00:40:13,211 --> 00:40:15,712 And the aggressive one definitely wants us gone. 961 00:40:15,714 --> 00:40:17,680 What was your fiancé's name? 962 00:40:17,682 --> 00:40:18,815 Dylan. 963 00:40:18,817 --> 00:40:20,884 Was he mean? Did he have a temper? 964 00:40:20,886 --> 00:40:23,019 He had a temper, but he also had a big heart. 965 00:40:23,021 --> 00:40:24,821 Okay. When he was in this house, 966 00:40:24,823 --> 00:40:27,824 did he have any bouts of unexplained rage? 967 00:40:27,826 --> 00:40:29,125 Yeah. 968 00:40:29,127 --> 00:40:32,095 Zak: For no reason whatsoever, as we are all downstairs 969 00:40:32,097 --> 00:40:34,030 and closing out this investigation, 970 00:40:34,032 --> 00:40:35,665 I lunge at aaron's camera 971 00:40:35,667 --> 00:40:38,835 and literally throw it to the ground. 972 00:40:38,837 --> 00:40:39,903 Aaron: Oh, god. 973 00:40:39,905 --> 00:40:41,204 Zak: Are you okay? 974 00:40:44,476 --> 00:40:45,975 You getting angry? Hmm? 975 00:40:45,977 --> 00:40:47,477 Are you getting angry? Yeah, I did for a minute. 976 00:40:47,479 --> 00:40:49,546 I know. I can feel it, man. 977 00:40:49,548 --> 00:40:51,581 This is the first bit of rage that I got. 978 00:40:51,583 --> 00:40:54,417 And it was weird, and he knew that it jumped in me, 979 00:40:54,419 --> 00:40:56,786 and I went over there and literally grabbed aaron's camera 980 00:40:56,788 --> 00:40:58,188 and slammed it to the ground. 981 00:40:58,190 --> 00:41:00,256 Aaron: It's probably the darkest energy there's 982 00:41:00,258 --> 00:41:02,225 desperate way to get everybody out, thinking, 983 00:41:02,227 --> 00:41:04,994 "oh, he's gonna flip out, and just everyone's gonna leave." 984 00:41:04,996 --> 00:41:08,064 I know you enough to know your energy. 985 00:41:10,035 --> 00:41:11,100 I'm just gonna stand over here. 986 00:41:11,102 --> 00:41:12,302 Billy: He's fired up. 987 00:41:12,304 --> 00:41:14,037 Yeah. Zak: Yeah, I can feel it, too. 988 00:41:14,039 --> 00:41:22,445 ♪♪ 989 00:41:22,447 --> 00:41:25,181 as we depart with a cleansing to the spirits here... 990 00:41:25,183 --> 00:41:26,783 These prayers are for you. 991 00:41:26,785 --> 00:41:29,686 ...We won't ever forget the pain that will last forever. 992 00:41:29,688 --> 00:41:32,956 Billy: I hope that we brought closure and helped this family, 993 00:41:32,958 --> 00:41:35,258 and to michael so that he was able to cross over... 994 00:41:35,260 --> 00:41:36,493 Aaron: I think we did. ...And go to where he needs to 995 00:41:36,495 --> 00:41:37,827 and not be stuck. 996 00:41:37,829 --> 00:41:39,429 And all family need that. You need to stay positive. 997 00:41:39,431 --> 00:41:41,030 We did what we could. 998 00:41:41,032 --> 00:41:43,099 Emotionally, it took a lot out of us. 999 00:41:43,101 --> 00:41:44,567 Going in there, and doing what we do 1000 00:41:44,569 --> 00:41:45,869 and trying to communicate with it, 1001 00:41:45,871 --> 00:41:47,003 and trying to combat it, 1002 00:41:47,005 --> 00:41:48,538 that's putting us on the front line 1003 00:41:48,540 --> 00:41:51,574 for something that's extremely dangerous, as well. 1004 00:41:51,576 --> 00:41:55,311 So our tears turned to caution in the end, 1005 00:41:55,313 --> 00:41:56,412 and I hope they're doing well. 1006 00:41:56,414 --> 00:41:57,747 Me, too. 1007 00:41:57,749 --> 00:41:59,782 And on that, I think we should follow up with them. 81751

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