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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:34,817 --> 00:00:37,385 - Within the realm of uncertainty, 2 00:00:37,428 --> 00:00:40,518 lie myths, stories, 3 00:00:40,562 --> 00:00:42,303 never entirely believed, 4 00:00:42,346 --> 00:00:44,348 but never entirely doubted. 5 00:00:49,484 --> 00:00:52,617 The explorer searches for their origins, 6 00:00:52,661 --> 00:00:55,577 the answers to who we are. 7 00:01:03,759 --> 00:01:05,326 - For centuries, 8 00:01:05,369 --> 00:01:07,241 legend maintained that the last of the Incan leaders 9 00:01:07,284 --> 00:01:10,287 had escaped capture by the Spanish conquistadores, 10 00:01:10,331 --> 00:01:13,725 and retreated to a hidden city, high above the clouds. 11 00:01:16,293 --> 00:01:18,339 Only in modern times has the legend proved 12 00:01:18,382 --> 00:01:19,775 to have a basis in fact, 13 00:01:19,818 --> 00:01:22,473 with the discovery of Machu Pichu. 14 00:01:25,302 --> 00:01:26,738 - Concealed in the jungle, 15 00:01:26,782 --> 00:01:29,219 this once lost city is now a portal 16 00:01:29,263 --> 00:01:31,439 to a vanished civilization. 17 00:01:33,963 --> 00:01:37,532 The more we discover, the more we want to know. 18 00:01:37,575 --> 00:01:38,707 - Dateline: Egypt. 19 00:01:38,750 --> 00:01:40,622 In the shadows of the giant pyramids 20 00:01:40,665 --> 00:01:43,842 that stood as lonely sentinels over the vast desert sands, 21 00:01:43,886 --> 00:01:46,584 a 1922 archaeological expedition, 22 00:01:46,628 --> 00:01:48,369 headed by Englishman Howard Carter, 23 00:01:48,412 --> 00:01:51,676 sought to uncover the tomb of an ancient Egyptian pharaoh, 24 00:01:51,720 --> 00:01:53,678 King Tutankhamen. 25 00:01:53,722 --> 00:01:55,941 - I carefully drew back the bolt, 26 00:01:55,985 --> 00:01:57,900 and opened the door. 27 00:01:57,943 --> 00:01:59,162 - Hidden for centuries, 28 00:01:59,206 --> 00:02:01,556 the final resting place of the boy king 29 00:02:01,599 --> 00:02:03,645 made its contribution to modern man's 30 00:02:03,688 --> 00:02:06,561 clearer understanding of his ancestors. 31 00:02:06,604 --> 00:02:08,650 The mountains of Ararat. 32 00:02:08,693 --> 00:02:12,219 The head waters of the Tigress and Euphrates Rivers. 33 00:02:12,262 --> 00:02:15,700 History calls this the cradle of civilization. 34 00:02:15,744 --> 00:02:18,181 - The seeds of Judaism, Islam, and Christianity 35 00:02:18,225 --> 00:02:20,575 all came from that region. 36 00:02:20,618 --> 00:02:21,837 Steeped in antiquity, 37 00:02:21,880 --> 00:02:24,405 this area has yielded countless discoveries. 38 00:02:24,448 --> 00:02:27,756 Like the 1799 unearthing of the Rosetta Stone. 39 00:02:27,799 --> 00:02:29,932 - The stone bore three inscriptions, 40 00:02:29,975 --> 00:02:31,629 ancient hieroglyphs at the top, 41 00:02:31,673 --> 00:02:32,761 another unknown text, 42 00:02:32,804 --> 00:02:34,763 and at the bottom, ancient Greek. 43 00:02:34,806 --> 00:02:36,373 - So, by translating the Greek, 44 00:02:36,417 --> 00:02:39,637 scholars were now able to decipher the hieroglyphs. 45 00:02:40,769 --> 00:02:41,900 Another find. 46 00:02:41,944 --> 00:02:43,424 The Dead Sea Scrolls have been called 47 00:02:43,467 --> 00:02:46,775 the greatest manuscript discovery of modern times. 48 00:02:46,818 --> 00:02:48,516 They show the evolutionary link 49 00:02:48,559 --> 00:02:51,083 between Judaism and Christianity. 50 00:02:51,127 --> 00:02:52,302 - It just completely changed 51 00:02:52,346 --> 00:02:54,391 our understanding of the Bible. 52 00:02:54,435 --> 00:02:57,133 We didn't have any idea that these even existed. 53 00:03:00,876 --> 00:03:02,791 - But, it was archaeologists, 54 00:03:02,834 --> 00:03:04,619 traveling through layers of time, 55 00:03:04,662 --> 00:03:09,145 who, in the 1850s, unearthed cuneiform clay tablets 56 00:03:09,189 --> 00:03:13,018 containing an ancient story about a great flood. 57 00:03:13,062 --> 00:03:15,543 The Epic of Gilgamesh, 58 00:03:15,586 --> 00:03:19,199 which has similarities to the story of Noah. 59 00:03:19,242 --> 00:03:23,551 - The great gods decided to make a deluge. 60 00:03:23,594 --> 00:03:25,770 - Genesis 6. 61 00:03:25,814 --> 00:03:27,946 "So, God said to Noah, 62 00:03:27,990 --> 00:03:30,035 - "I'm going to put an end to all people, 63 00:03:30,079 --> 00:03:33,561 "for the earth is filled with violence because of them." 64 00:03:33,604 --> 00:03:35,998 - The story of Noah is told many times in the Quran. 65 00:03:36,041 --> 00:03:38,043 In the story itself, 66 00:03:38,087 --> 00:03:40,437 Noah is informed that there's gonna be a great flood. 67 00:03:40,481 --> 00:03:42,613 After many years of preaching to his people, 68 00:03:42,657 --> 00:03:46,356 very few followers actually believed in him and his message. 69 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:50,708 And so, he was informed by God to build this ark. 70 00:03:50,752 --> 00:03:53,450 - "So, make yourself an ark of cypress wood. 71 00:03:53,494 --> 00:03:57,672 "Make rooms in it, and coat it with pitch, inside and out. 72 00:03:57,715 --> 00:04:02,459 "Take into the boat the seed of all living things. 73 00:04:02,503 --> 00:04:04,418 " I'm going to bring flood waters on the earth 74 00:04:04,461 --> 00:04:07,072 "to destroy all life under the heavens." 75 00:04:08,291 --> 00:04:11,425 - What prompts the deity, Yahweh, the god of the Bible, 76 00:04:11,468 --> 00:04:12,730 to send the flood? 77 00:04:12,774 --> 00:04:13,644 It has nothing to do with, 78 00:04:13,688 --> 00:04:15,864 that the humans are procreating, 79 00:04:15,907 --> 00:04:18,040 and creating noises and disturbances. 80 00:04:18,083 --> 00:04:20,782 But rather, their ethical behavior. 81 00:04:22,218 --> 00:04:23,567 "Every living thing, 82 00:04:23,611 --> 00:04:25,874 that moved on land, perished." 83 00:04:25,917 --> 00:04:27,615 - The rains started falling. 84 00:04:27,658 --> 00:04:30,705 And also the water started gushing up. 85 00:04:30,748 --> 00:04:32,707 "Everything on dry land, 86 00:04:32,750 --> 00:04:35,536 "that had the breath of life in its nostrils, 87 00:04:35,579 --> 00:04:36,798 "died." 88 00:04:40,192 --> 00:04:42,586 "But, God remembered Noah. 89 00:04:42,630 --> 00:04:44,719 "And he sent a wind over the earth, 90 00:04:44,762 --> 00:04:46,677 "and the waters receded." 91 00:04:46,721 --> 00:04:50,551 - When we study the flood, from a comparative perspective, 92 00:04:50,594 --> 00:04:53,423 is that we see it in every culture. 93 00:04:53,467 --> 00:04:56,818 The flood was a very common story told. 94 00:04:56,861 --> 00:04:58,646 That something happened, 95 00:04:58,689 --> 00:05:01,779 and there was an ark that saved human kind. 96 00:05:01,823 --> 00:05:05,305 - "And on the 17th day of the seventh month, 97 00:05:05,348 --> 00:05:09,613 the ark came to rest on the mountains of Ararat." 98 00:05:10,875 --> 00:05:13,051 - Did you go clear to the top? 99 00:05:13,095 --> 00:05:15,532 - Well, we got up on the ice cap. 100 00:05:15,576 --> 00:05:16,751 We didn't get to the -- 101 00:05:16,794 --> 00:05:18,535 - Did you see the ark, itself? 102 00:05:18,579 --> 00:05:19,667 - I did. 103 00:05:19,710 --> 00:05:20,581 Early history notes 104 00:05:20,624 --> 00:05:22,496 many such sightings of the ark. 105 00:05:22,539 --> 00:05:23,758 - In the third century, 106 00:05:23,801 --> 00:05:25,542 Berosus wrote that its location was such 107 00:05:25,586 --> 00:05:26,891 that common people could visit. 108 00:05:26,935 --> 00:05:28,763 - Egyptian historian Heironymus 109 00:05:28,806 --> 00:05:30,242 mentions the ark -- 110 00:05:30,286 --> 00:05:31,505 - Josephus wrote of the vessel in 50A.D. 111 00:05:31,548 --> 00:05:33,071 - Epiphanius, bishop of Salem, 112 00:05:33,115 --> 00:05:35,073 has stated that he was shown wood from the vessel. 113 00:05:35,117 --> 00:05:36,640 - Armenian historian, Hayton, 114 00:05:36,684 --> 00:05:38,642 wrote that, in the snows of Mt. Ararat, 115 00:05:38,686 --> 00:05:40,514 one can see a black spot. 116 00:05:40,557 --> 00:05:41,950 That is the ark of Noah. 117 00:05:41,993 --> 00:05:43,473 - Even Marco Polo 118 00:05:43,517 --> 00:05:46,302 wrote about the ark's presence on Ararat, in 1269 A.D. 119 00:05:46,346 --> 00:05:47,608 - In 1829, 120 00:05:47,651 --> 00:05:50,611 Fredrich Perot reported being shown wood relics 121 00:05:50,654 --> 00:05:52,569 from the ark, at the base of Ararat. 122 00:05:52,613 --> 00:05:55,006 - If we don't go, we won't know. 123 00:05:55,050 --> 00:05:57,357 Somebody has to take up the challenge. 124 00:06:01,535 --> 00:06:04,407 We're part of that group of men 125 00:06:04,451 --> 00:06:06,496 who have tried to do it, in history. 126 00:06:06,540 --> 00:06:08,063 - Karl Behrens, in 1835. 127 00:06:08,106 --> 00:06:09,847 - Claudius Rich, in 1836. 128 00:06:09,891 --> 00:06:11,066 - Herman Von Abich 129 00:06:11,109 --> 00:06:12,894 conquered the Ararat summit in 1845. 130 00:06:12,937 --> 00:06:14,765 - Englishman, H. Danby Seymour 131 00:06:14,809 --> 00:06:16,201 reached the peak in 1846. 132 00:06:16,245 --> 00:06:17,638 - Colonel Khodzko of the Russian army 133 00:06:17,681 --> 00:06:18,856 climbed in 1850. 134 00:06:18,900 --> 00:06:19,944 - Englishman Major Robert Stuart 135 00:06:19,988 --> 00:06:21,903 made it in 1856. 136 00:06:21,946 --> 00:06:23,774 - And hopefully, one day, it will be done. 137 00:06:23,818 --> 00:06:24,993 - I always thought, 138 00:06:25,036 --> 00:06:26,255 "Let's just go up and find the thing. 139 00:06:26,298 --> 00:06:28,170 "Put this to rest, once and for all." 140 00:06:28,213 --> 00:06:30,738 And people have been trying to do that for centuries. 141 00:06:33,088 --> 00:06:34,916 - Even getting to Mount Ararat, 142 00:06:34,959 --> 00:06:37,440 today's explorer deals with obstacles on the road 143 00:06:37,484 --> 00:06:39,573 to what locals call Abridah, 144 00:06:39,616 --> 00:06:41,270 "the Painful Mountain". 145 00:06:42,489 --> 00:06:44,404 - This will be our third try. 146 00:06:48,582 --> 00:06:50,714 - We're having a little trouble getting up the hill, 147 00:06:50,758 --> 00:06:54,109 so we all had to bail out of the vehicle. 148 00:06:57,068 --> 00:06:59,070 I think the ark of Noah, 149 00:06:59,114 --> 00:07:01,638 on greater Ararat, in Eastern Turkey, 150 00:07:01,682 --> 00:07:04,511 would be the ultimate archaeological find. 151 00:07:04,554 --> 00:07:06,948 - It's a big mountain. 152 00:07:06,991 --> 00:07:09,124 I'm 50 years old, and I'm thinking, 153 00:07:09,167 --> 00:07:10,560 can I really make it up that mountain? 154 00:07:10,604 --> 00:07:11,909 You know what I thought? 155 00:07:11,953 --> 00:07:13,476 "God will go before me. 156 00:07:13,520 --> 00:07:15,173 "I'll make it up that mountain." 157 00:07:17,785 --> 00:07:20,135 What it means to me, to search for Noah's ark, 158 00:07:20,178 --> 00:07:23,704 is to come back with some 159 00:07:23,747 --> 00:07:27,534 tangible evidence that the ark existed. 160 00:07:28,230 --> 00:07:29,492 - The local Kurdish people 161 00:07:29,536 --> 00:07:30,711 protect this mountain. 162 00:07:30,754 --> 00:07:33,453 No one climbs without their support. 163 00:07:35,367 --> 00:07:38,762 - I believe the ark on this mountain. 164 00:07:38,806 --> 00:07:40,198 - In ancient times, 165 00:07:40,242 --> 00:07:42,897 this land was a buffer kingdom, between rival empires. 166 00:07:44,638 --> 00:07:45,813 Throughout the centuries, 167 00:07:45,856 --> 00:07:47,597 it has often known the thunder of hooves, 168 00:07:47,641 --> 00:07:48,729 and the clash of steel. 169 00:07:55,170 --> 00:07:56,911 As modern borders were redrawn, 170 00:07:56,954 --> 00:08:00,610 Ararat was seized from its ancestral home in Armenia, 171 00:08:00,654 --> 00:08:02,743 and given to Turkey. 172 00:08:02,786 --> 00:08:05,702 Now, it rises majestically, across the border, 173 00:08:05,746 --> 00:08:07,704 a constant reminder. 174 00:08:07,748 --> 00:08:10,620 - This is why we have pain in our heart. 175 00:08:10,664 --> 00:08:14,406 Because, our symbol was taken from us, 176 00:08:14,450 --> 00:08:18,672 without considering the will of Armenian people. 177 00:08:18,715 --> 00:08:22,327 It was in Armenia where Noah constructed temple, 178 00:08:22,371 --> 00:08:26,157 It was in Armenia where he made his first sacrifice. 179 00:08:27,071 --> 00:08:31,032 If you take out Ararat from Armenia mythology, 180 00:08:31,075 --> 00:08:33,687 Armenia will cease to be Armenia. 181 00:08:33,730 --> 00:08:35,689 - This is not a normal part of the world. 182 00:08:35,732 --> 00:08:37,560 This is a hostile part of the world. 183 00:08:37,604 --> 00:08:38,996 - It's a demilitarized zone. 184 00:08:39,040 --> 00:08:40,694 It's highly classified. 185 00:08:40,737 --> 00:08:42,347 - We had the PKK. 186 00:08:42,391 --> 00:08:44,567 We have the Turkish army. 187 00:08:44,611 --> 00:08:46,613 Needless to say, they don't like one another. 188 00:08:49,616 --> 00:08:52,270 - In the decades long conflict with Turkey, 189 00:08:52,314 --> 00:08:54,621 the PKK controls the mountain. 190 00:08:56,623 --> 00:08:59,277 - The PKK view themselves as freedom fighters. 191 00:08:59,321 --> 00:09:01,018 They represent the people. 192 00:09:01,062 --> 00:09:03,368 They once had land, they no longer have lands. 193 00:09:03,412 --> 00:09:06,502 They believe they're fighting for a righteous cause. 194 00:09:06,546 --> 00:09:08,722 - You walk into a context where there's a war zone. 195 00:09:08,765 --> 00:09:12,639 You're on a mountain, dominated and controlled by the Kurds. 196 00:09:12,682 --> 00:09:14,815 At the same time, you're in a country, 197 00:09:14,858 --> 00:09:17,339 and the mountain exists in that country, 198 00:09:17,382 --> 00:09:20,821 that is under the sovereignty of the Turkish authorities. 199 00:09:20,864 --> 00:09:23,519 - With the dissolution of the Ottoman Empire, 200 00:09:23,563 --> 00:09:25,042 after World War I, 201 00:09:25,086 --> 00:09:28,306 the treaty of Severa guaranteed a homeland for the Kurds, 202 00:09:28,350 --> 00:09:30,091 until the treaty was dismissed, 203 00:09:30,134 --> 00:09:33,747 after the Turkish War of Independence in 1923. 204 00:09:33,790 --> 00:09:36,271 And hostilities escalated. 205 00:09:36,314 --> 00:09:38,708 In 1945, the Kurds petitioned 206 00:09:38,752 --> 00:09:42,364 the newly formed United Nations for a sovereign state, 207 00:09:42,407 --> 00:09:43,931 and received 208 00:09:43,974 --> 00:09:45,280 nothing. 209 00:09:46,716 --> 00:09:50,633 So, Iraq, Iran, Syria, Armenia, and Turkey 210 00:09:50,677 --> 00:09:54,028 all have chunks of, what should have been, Kurdistan. 211 00:09:54,071 --> 00:09:55,638 - That's why they're so militant. 212 00:09:55,682 --> 00:09:56,770 They want their own country back. 213 00:09:56,813 --> 00:09:58,206 I understand that. 214 00:09:58,249 --> 00:09:59,990 - These are freedom fighters, in there own eyes, 215 00:10:00,034 --> 00:10:01,557 for what's legally always been, 216 00:10:01,601 --> 00:10:03,080 and should have been, theirs. 217 00:10:03,124 --> 00:10:06,301 - In years past, we have been directed by the PKK, 218 00:10:06,344 --> 00:10:07,519 through our Kurdish partners, 219 00:10:07,563 --> 00:10:09,565 to exit the mountain. 220 00:10:09,609 --> 00:10:11,654 - And you know once you get on that mountain, 221 00:10:11,698 --> 00:10:13,613 no one really is going to help you. 222 00:10:13,656 --> 00:10:15,397 The military doesn't go where you go. 223 00:10:15,440 --> 00:10:17,660 - We had Turkish commandos with us, 224 00:10:17,704 --> 00:10:21,316 until they decided they didn't want to go any higher. 225 00:10:21,359 --> 00:10:22,230 - You're on your own. 226 00:10:22,273 --> 00:10:23,448 If someone wants to kidnap you, 227 00:10:23,492 --> 00:10:24,667 they want to shoot you, 228 00:10:24,711 --> 00:10:27,191 they have every freedom to do it. 229 00:10:34,285 --> 00:10:36,940 - But, for those searching for Noah's Ark, 230 00:10:36,984 --> 00:10:39,987 there is no other destination. 231 00:10:56,830 --> 00:10:58,353 - They call me Cowboy. 232 00:10:58,396 --> 00:11:00,921 I came over, and agreed to set up, 233 00:11:00,964 --> 00:11:03,097 and make sure everybody got to the top, 234 00:11:03,140 --> 00:11:04,620 make sure the equipment works, 235 00:11:04,664 --> 00:11:07,405 make sure the food is here. 236 00:11:07,449 --> 00:11:09,669 Deal with political problems that we have. 237 00:11:13,629 --> 00:11:14,935 - We're going up to drill. 238 00:11:18,765 --> 00:11:21,593 My hope is that, yes, indeed, we find it. 239 00:11:21,637 --> 00:11:22,899 - Word. 240 00:11:28,600 --> 00:11:31,560 - I think we're supposed to look for things like this. 241 00:11:39,307 --> 00:11:41,744 - I think there's so much evidence, 242 00:11:41,788 --> 00:11:43,703 that it's irresponsible not to look. 243 00:11:46,618 --> 00:11:50,274 - We are built to explore, find and reveal. 244 00:11:50,318 --> 00:11:52,668 It's just a part of who we are, 245 00:11:52,712 --> 00:11:55,802 from Marco Polo to Christopher Columbus. 246 00:11:58,674 --> 00:11:59,893 - It's a great team. 247 00:11:59,936 --> 00:12:01,633 I look at them all like brothers, you know? 248 00:12:07,030 --> 00:12:08,771 - For me, the past five years has been, 249 00:12:08,815 --> 00:12:11,208 really a mirror into my soul. 250 00:12:11,252 --> 00:12:13,123 Why am I doing this year after year? 251 00:12:13,167 --> 00:12:16,605 Why am I risking life and limb to look for something 252 00:12:16,648 --> 00:12:20,174 that we have no conclusive evidence actually exists? 253 00:12:25,309 --> 00:12:28,791 - The quest to find the ark starts with my faith. 254 00:12:28,835 --> 00:12:30,010 It started with my faith. 255 00:12:30,053 --> 00:12:32,534 It started with a calling that I felt. 256 00:12:32,577 --> 00:12:35,450 - We have come together to meet this challenge of 257 00:12:35,493 --> 00:12:38,061 scientifically examining, investigating, 258 00:12:38,105 --> 00:12:39,671 and revealing to the world, 259 00:12:39,715 --> 00:12:43,719 the evidence that may exist for Noah's ark on that mountain. 260 00:12:43,763 --> 00:12:47,679 - Last year, it was an amazing trip. 261 00:12:47,723 --> 00:12:49,551 Being able to work with my son, 262 00:12:49,594 --> 00:12:51,553 on top of a mountain. 263 00:12:51,596 --> 00:12:53,511 We work and play well together. 264 00:12:53,555 --> 00:12:54,991 And we added value to the trip, 265 00:12:55,035 --> 00:12:58,125 because we were able to Frankenstein stuff together. 266 00:12:58,168 --> 00:13:00,605 And that's what you have to do in a place like this. 267 00:13:01,737 --> 00:13:03,565 - None of these things are labeled, of course. 268 00:13:12,269 --> 00:13:14,315 We had an active volcano 269 00:13:14,358 --> 00:13:17,709 on a fault line, within recorded history 270 00:13:17,753 --> 00:13:20,060 that's demolished multiple civilizations. 271 00:13:20,103 --> 00:13:22,845 And, then to think, 272 00:13:22,889 --> 00:13:24,151 okay, there's something that's gonna be suspended 273 00:13:24,194 --> 00:13:25,630 in a 60 foot deep glacier, 274 00:13:25,674 --> 00:13:27,197 that breaks off and falls into a gorge 275 00:13:27,241 --> 00:13:30,113 twice as deep as the Grand Canyon. 276 00:13:30,157 --> 00:13:32,072 There's different arguments about how old the earth is, 277 00:13:32,115 --> 00:13:35,292 whether it's 6,000, or 60 million years old. 278 00:13:35,336 --> 00:13:40,210 And, even if it's the young- smaller model, the fact that and a matter what 279 00:13:40,254 --> 00:13:42,212 if it's concrete wood, bathed in, 280 00:13:42,256 --> 00:13:46,173 who knows what kind of chemical pitch, 281 00:13:46,216 --> 00:13:47,565 if there's a splinter up there, 282 00:13:47,609 --> 00:13:49,524 I'd come to the point where, 283 00:13:49,567 --> 00:13:50,742 if there's a splinter of wood up there, 284 00:13:50,786 --> 00:13:51,656 it will be by the hand of God, 285 00:13:51,700 --> 00:13:53,963 let alone some intact anomaly. 286 00:13:54,007 --> 00:13:56,487 - I've had my worst nights of my life on that mountain. 287 00:13:56,531 --> 00:13:58,663 I've frozen on that mountain. 288 00:13:58,707 --> 00:14:01,144 I've been bloody on that mountain. 289 00:14:01,188 --> 00:14:04,017 You sit in your tent, and the wind is whipping, 290 00:14:04,060 --> 00:14:05,757 and hitting the flaps. 291 00:14:05,801 --> 00:14:06,933 You're eating your granola bar, 292 00:14:06,976 --> 00:14:07,977 which you're gonna throw up anyway, 293 00:14:08,021 --> 00:14:09,587 because you're so nauseated. 294 00:14:09,631 --> 00:14:11,589 It's just an unpleasant place to be, 295 00:14:11,633 --> 00:14:14,418 and sometimes you question the sanity of just doing it. 296 00:14:14,462 --> 00:14:16,116 - You know you're taking your life in your hands 297 00:14:16,159 --> 00:14:18,596 when you go on that mountain. 298 00:14:18,640 --> 00:14:20,598 So, it has to be a cause bigger, 299 00:14:20,642 --> 00:14:22,731 and greater than yourself 300 00:14:22,774 --> 00:14:24,733 to motivate you to do that. 301 00:14:24,776 --> 00:14:25,908 - I expect 302 00:14:27,997 --> 00:14:30,695 something amazing on this trip. 303 00:14:31,479 --> 00:14:32,872 I think there's gonna be a transfer 304 00:14:32,915 --> 00:14:34,482 from what I got, 305 00:14:34,525 --> 00:14:36,876 and this is all spiritual in nature, 306 00:14:36,919 --> 00:14:40,488 what I received was word that 307 00:14:40,531 --> 00:14:42,882 I was going to receive something. 308 00:14:42,925 --> 00:14:45,493 And, I was gonna be giving something to God. 309 00:14:46,886 --> 00:14:48,713 How could I not come? 310 00:14:49,976 --> 00:14:52,630 - Finding the ark would indicate 311 00:14:52,674 --> 00:14:56,852 that God, actually, has intervened 312 00:14:58,419 --> 00:15:00,334 with man. 313 00:15:00,377 --> 00:15:03,598 And that has a profound impact. 314 00:15:03,641 --> 00:15:06,906 People that have thought this through 315 00:15:06,949 --> 00:15:09,952 are scared to death to find it to be true. 316 00:15:09,996 --> 00:15:11,040 - Then you realize, 317 00:15:11,084 --> 00:15:13,129 if you do see these rotten timbers 318 00:15:13,173 --> 00:15:17,090 of this boat, sticking out of the ancient optics of ice, 319 00:15:17,133 --> 00:15:18,830 it could change everything. 320 00:15:18,874 --> 00:15:21,398 It could change the whole perception of the Bible. 321 00:15:21,442 --> 00:15:23,835 It could change people's thought process 322 00:15:23,879 --> 00:15:25,663 about where they came from, 323 00:15:25,707 --> 00:15:27,274 who they are. 324 00:15:29,058 --> 00:15:32,714 - Do you believe the entire Bible is to be taken literally? 325 00:15:32,757 --> 00:15:35,108 - Well, if it's history, as Genesis is, 326 00:15:35,151 --> 00:15:37,153 it's written as typical historical narrative, 327 00:15:37,197 --> 00:15:38,198 you take it as history. 328 00:15:38,241 --> 00:15:39,460 If it's -- 329 00:15:39,503 --> 00:15:40,765 - Part of the root of the fascination 330 00:15:40,809 --> 00:15:41,679 of the story of Noah's flood is, first of all, 331 00:15:41,723 --> 00:15:43,072 it's a really good story. 332 00:15:43,116 --> 00:15:44,813 I mean, it's an epic tale. 333 00:15:46,293 --> 00:15:50,036 It has all the elements of a good story. 334 00:15:50,079 --> 00:15:52,995 But, there's particular branches of Christian theology 335 00:15:53,039 --> 00:15:54,692 that have basically embraced the idea 336 00:15:54,736 --> 00:15:56,651 of viewing the Bible as a literal, historical, 337 00:15:56,694 --> 00:15:58,740 and complete record of the history of the world. 338 00:15:58,783 --> 00:16:01,873 - It sounds as though you believe your world view, 339 00:16:01,917 --> 00:16:03,701 which is a literal interpretation 340 00:16:03,745 --> 00:16:05,834 of most parts of the Bible, 341 00:16:05,877 --> 00:16:07,488 is correct. 342 00:16:07,531 --> 00:16:09,403 - The conflict between science and religion, 343 00:16:09,446 --> 00:16:11,666 that is often portrayed in the media today, 344 00:16:11,709 --> 00:16:13,233 I think , is actually better portrayed 345 00:16:13,276 --> 00:16:15,975 as a conflict, within religion, over how to view science. 346 00:16:16,018 --> 00:16:18,151 - There are some difference between Jews and Christians, 347 00:16:18,194 --> 00:16:20,675 in the way that they relate to the story of Noah, 348 00:16:20,718 --> 00:16:22,372 and the way Muslims do. 349 00:16:22,416 --> 00:16:25,071 - Everyone, whether they're Muslim, or Jewish, or Christian, 350 00:16:25,114 --> 00:16:27,160 the three accounts that have the ark 351 00:16:27,203 --> 00:16:29,684 in their religious documents, 352 00:16:29,727 --> 00:16:33,035 all believe that the ark exists, 353 00:16:33,079 --> 00:16:36,169 because their founding documents say it does. 354 00:16:36,212 --> 00:16:38,127 - I believe that historical texts 355 00:16:38,171 --> 00:16:40,608 are all part of the human knowledge. 356 00:16:40,651 --> 00:16:43,698 And, the human knowledge is all based on both 357 00:16:43,741 --> 00:16:45,308 the religious texts, 358 00:16:45,352 --> 00:16:47,267 and the things that they saw in nature, 359 00:16:47,310 --> 00:16:49,878 and the things they were told by their elders. 360 00:16:51,706 --> 00:16:54,056 - Hundreds of cultures throughout the world 361 00:16:54,100 --> 00:16:57,320 share the same legend of a catastrophic flood 362 00:16:57,364 --> 00:17:00,628 that destroyed most of mankind. 363 00:17:00,671 --> 00:17:04,023 In 95%, the flood was world-wide. 364 00:17:05,241 --> 00:17:09,419 In 88%, a certain family was favored. 365 00:17:09,463 --> 00:17:13,467 In 70%, survival was by means of a boat. 366 00:17:13,510 --> 00:17:18,037 In 67%, animals were also saved. 367 00:17:18,080 --> 00:17:22,476 In 35%, birds were sent out from the boat. 368 00:17:23,868 --> 00:17:28,177 And in 9%, exactly eight people were spared. 369 00:17:29,178 --> 00:17:32,138 - And, rather than immediately dismissing 370 00:17:32,181 --> 00:17:33,878 a literal world-wide flood, 371 00:17:33,922 --> 00:17:36,577 just suppose that, maybe, 372 00:17:36,620 --> 00:17:39,971 actually, that this is speaking of real events. 373 00:17:40,015 --> 00:17:42,496 - If the biblical stories in Genesis 374 00:17:42,539 --> 00:17:45,368 are literally true, and historically accurate, 375 00:17:45,412 --> 00:17:47,109 you basically have to throw away 376 00:17:47,153 --> 00:17:49,155 geology, and all the physics, and chemistry, 377 00:17:49,198 --> 00:17:51,070 and math, and biology that it's built upon, 378 00:17:51,113 --> 00:17:52,245 to embrace that view. 379 00:17:52,288 --> 00:17:54,116 - Being a flood over the entire earth. 380 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:55,639 And, those that take that literally, 381 00:17:55,683 --> 00:17:58,990 are kind of bound to understanding it, in that way, 382 00:17:59,034 --> 00:18:01,254 even if it contradicts science. 383 00:18:01,297 --> 00:18:04,866 Where as Muslims, we're kind of bound to accept science, 384 00:18:04,909 --> 00:18:06,085 whatever that says, 385 00:18:06,128 --> 00:18:07,695 and then reconcile that with the text. 386 00:18:07,738 --> 00:18:10,741 - We know for certain, geologically, 387 00:18:10,785 --> 00:18:14,093 that before 5,000 years ago, 388 00:18:14,136 --> 00:18:17,618 there were enormous amounts of rainfall, 389 00:18:17,661 --> 00:18:20,664 where a great deal of water would have accumulated, 390 00:18:20,708 --> 00:18:22,579 and a major flood would have occurred. 391 00:18:22,623 --> 00:18:24,146 There is no question about it, 392 00:18:24,190 --> 00:18:26,714 because we see the evidence of this in the rock, itself. 393 00:18:26,757 --> 00:18:29,499 - So, when you come at it from a Christian point of view, 394 00:18:29,543 --> 00:18:31,545 I don't think you should be closed to the possiblity 395 00:18:31,588 --> 00:18:34,417 that Genesis is actually just simply 396 00:18:34,461 --> 00:18:35,810 describing what happened. 397 00:18:35,853 --> 00:18:37,420 - In which case, 398 00:18:37,464 --> 00:18:39,944 validating your faith relies on the reality of that story, 399 00:18:39,988 --> 00:18:41,120 as a global flood, 400 00:18:41,163 --> 00:18:43,296 and that it ended up on Ararat. 401 00:18:55,134 --> 00:18:56,700 - This is my father place. 402 00:18:56,744 --> 00:18:59,312 My father was put his tent down here. 403 00:18:59,355 --> 00:19:01,792 This is my grandfather places also. 404 00:19:01,836 --> 00:19:04,839 I remember, my mother would say to me, 405 00:19:04,882 --> 00:19:06,232 "Come, I have to wash you", 406 00:19:06,275 --> 00:19:08,321 but I always run away. 407 00:19:08,364 --> 00:19:09,800 And, there she was, come behind me, 408 00:19:09,844 --> 00:19:12,542 take my arm, and then hit me, 409 00:19:12,586 --> 00:19:14,588 "Come here, you very dirty, 410 00:19:14,631 --> 00:19:15,980 "I have to clean you". 411 00:19:16,024 --> 00:19:17,286 It was like this. 412 00:19:18,679 --> 00:19:20,333 Yeah, it was like this. 413 00:19:21,725 --> 00:19:23,292 - Every season, 414 00:19:23,336 --> 00:19:26,774 Kurdish shepherds lead their flocks above the desert heat. 415 00:19:28,297 --> 00:19:31,735 To graze in pastures fed by the melting ice cap. 416 00:19:33,998 --> 00:19:35,696 The warmer the summer, 417 00:19:35,739 --> 00:19:38,002 the greater the exposure, 418 00:19:38,046 --> 00:19:41,658 leading to the most intriguing of local legends. 419 00:19:56,456 --> 00:19:58,675 - Throughout the 1800s, they came. 420 00:19:58,719 --> 00:20:02,505 In 1856, local boy, Haji Yearam, and his father, 421 00:20:02,549 --> 00:20:04,638 were hired by three unbelieving scientists 422 00:20:04,681 --> 00:20:07,075 to take them up to the ark. 423 00:20:07,118 --> 00:20:08,729 When the scientists saw the vessel, 424 00:20:08,772 --> 00:20:12,036 they flew into a rage, and attempted to destroy it. 425 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:14,256 - They took a blood oath, 426 00:20:14,300 --> 00:20:16,432 that if any one of the three ever revealed the truth, 427 00:20:16,476 --> 00:20:17,564 the other two would kill him. 428 00:20:17,607 --> 00:20:19,043 - Some 50 years later, 429 00:20:19,087 --> 00:20:21,220 one of the scientists gave a deathbed confession, 430 00:20:21,263 --> 00:20:23,744 which corroborated Haji Yearam's story. 431 00:20:23,787 --> 00:20:26,312 - In July, 1955, 432 00:20:26,355 --> 00:20:29,576 Fernand Nevara, traveling with his son, Rafael, 433 00:20:29,619 --> 00:20:31,752 climbed Mount Ararat. 434 00:20:31,795 --> 00:20:35,582 Rafael saw the ark first, in a crevasse. 435 00:20:35,625 --> 00:20:37,671 After lowering himself into the crevasse, 436 00:20:37,714 --> 00:20:40,326 and using a pick axe to chop through the ice, 437 00:20:40,369 --> 00:20:42,763 "I found wood!" he called. 438 00:20:42,806 --> 00:20:44,634 Yes, Nevarra had found wood. 439 00:20:44,678 --> 00:20:46,767 But, was it a piece of the ark? 440 00:20:46,810 --> 00:20:49,073 - Testing proved it wasn't old enough. 441 00:20:49,117 --> 00:20:50,771 The wood was from the 8th century, 442 00:20:50,814 --> 00:20:53,600 4,000 years after Noah's time. 443 00:20:53,643 --> 00:20:56,820 But, what was the wood doing on the slopes of Ararat? 444 00:20:57,865 --> 00:20:59,170 - What I have listed here, 445 00:20:59,214 --> 00:21:00,737 are four reports of the ark with the door off, 446 00:21:00,781 --> 00:21:03,566 seven reports of one end broken off, 447 00:21:03,610 --> 00:21:05,176 18 reports of sticking out of the ice -- 448 00:21:05,220 --> 00:21:06,613 - In 1883, 449 00:21:06,656 --> 00:21:08,441 reports issued by a Turkish commission, 450 00:21:08,484 --> 00:21:10,834 investigating avalanches on Mount Ararat, 451 00:21:10,878 --> 00:21:12,575 detailed that they had seen Noah's ark 452 00:21:12,619 --> 00:21:14,621 protruding from a glacier. 453 00:21:14,664 --> 00:21:15,926 - Prince Nouri declared 454 00:21:15,970 --> 00:21:18,015 that he had found the ark, high on Ararat, 455 00:21:18,059 --> 00:21:19,800 that he walked within its walls, 456 00:21:19,843 --> 00:21:20,975 and that it's measurements 457 00:21:21,018 --> 00:21:23,934 were exactly as described in the Bible. 458 00:21:23,978 --> 00:21:25,719 - There are nine reports of a melt-water pond, 459 00:21:25,762 --> 00:21:27,982 eight reports sitting on a ledge, 460 00:21:28,025 --> 00:21:30,245 10 reports of a ravine, valley, gully -- 461 00:21:30,289 --> 00:21:32,552 - In 1902, as a boy, 462 00:21:32,595 --> 00:21:34,423 Armenian, George Hagopian, 463 00:21:34,467 --> 00:21:36,033 was taken to the ark by his uncle. 464 00:21:36,077 --> 00:21:37,600 - You saw it how many times? 465 00:21:37,644 --> 00:21:38,688 - Twice. 466 00:21:38,732 --> 00:21:39,385 - Twice? 467 00:21:39,428 --> 00:21:40,255 - Mm hmm. 468 00:21:41,648 --> 00:21:42,823 - In 1916, 469 00:21:42,866 --> 00:21:45,260 Russian aviator, Vladamir Roskovitsky 470 00:21:45,304 --> 00:21:47,044 described how he saw the ark, 471 00:21:47,088 --> 00:21:50,134 while on a flight over Mount Ararat. 472 00:21:50,178 --> 00:21:51,527 The czar sent soldiers up the mountain 473 00:21:51,571 --> 00:21:53,660 to confirm the sighting. 474 00:21:53,703 --> 00:21:55,096 They brought back photographs, 475 00:21:55,139 --> 00:21:57,664 displaying hundreds of rooms with cages. 476 00:21:57,707 --> 00:22:00,710 But, the Bolshevik Revolution occurred shortly thereafter, 477 00:22:00,754 --> 00:22:02,712 and the photographs were destroyed. 478 00:22:04,801 --> 00:22:08,283 - You could see a large vessel there, 479 00:22:09,763 --> 00:22:11,460 laying on its side -- 480 00:22:11,504 --> 00:22:13,680 - These guys didn't even know what they had seen. 481 00:22:13,723 --> 00:22:14,637 They just described it to us. 482 00:22:14,681 --> 00:22:16,422 They realized it was a huge boat. 483 00:22:16,465 --> 00:22:18,119 - He said he saw this object, 484 00:22:18,162 --> 00:22:19,642 this murky object in the snow, 485 00:22:19,686 --> 00:22:23,646 and he said it looked like timbers from Noah's ark. 486 00:22:23,690 --> 00:22:25,779 - And then, off to the left back here, 487 00:22:25,822 --> 00:22:28,825 is the part that broke off. 488 00:22:28,869 --> 00:22:32,655 And it is laying slightly down. 489 00:22:32,699 --> 00:22:34,918 You could see in the back of it. 490 00:22:36,050 --> 00:22:38,922 - Of all the people that have said they've seen Noah's Ark, 491 00:22:38,966 --> 00:22:42,622 Ed Davis has the most reliable eye-witness account. 492 00:22:42,665 --> 00:22:46,756 - He had been there as part of the Army Corps of Engineers, 493 00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:48,367 building roads. 494 00:22:48,410 --> 00:22:52,283 He rescued the grandson of one of the Kurdish chieftains. 495 00:22:52,327 --> 00:22:54,677 - The only way that they could say thank you, 496 00:22:54,721 --> 00:22:58,942 was to share with them their most precious possession, 497 00:22:58,986 --> 00:23:01,205 which was the remains of Noah's Ark. 498 00:23:01,249 --> 00:23:03,686 - He got within about a hundred yards of it. 499 00:23:03,730 --> 00:23:05,558 Storm kept them from getting closer, 500 00:23:05,601 --> 00:23:08,343 but he viewed it with the army field glasses. 501 00:23:08,387 --> 00:23:10,824 - Comes back after the war, tells a few people about it. 502 00:23:10,867 --> 00:23:13,261 I find out about it, I go give him a lie detector test, 503 00:23:13,304 --> 00:23:14,741 we give him three lie detector tests. 504 00:23:14,784 --> 00:23:16,177 He passes all three of them. 505 00:23:16,220 --> 00:23:17,744 - He passed one with flying colors. 506 00:23:17,787 --> 00:23:19,572 - I mean, you just can't dismiss this. 507 00:23:19,615 --> 00:23:22,705 - Okay, three reports of a stream and a pond. 508 00:23:22,749 --> 00:23:25,926 The point is, we have so many reports, 509 00:23:25,969 --> 00:23:27,449 and many of them say the same things. 510 00:23:27,493 --> 00:23:29,320 - They describe it in the same fashion. 511 00:23:29,364 --> 00:23:30,887 As a long rectangular shape, 512 00:23:30,931 --> 00:23:32,411 with a catwalk on the top, 513 00:23:32,454 --> 00:23:34,674 found on a very rugged area of the mountain. 514 00:23:34,717 --> 00:23:37,111 - And, there's no chance of collaboration here. 515 00:23:37,154 --> 00:23:39,461 They come from different sources, over different years. 516 00:23:39,505 --> 00:23:42,508 - Everyone tells the same basic story. 517 00:23:43,552 --> 00:23:44,814 - The structure is there. 518 00:23:51,255 --> 00:23:54,476 - We got the word from a military guy, 519 00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:56,522 that says, "We know where it is". 520 00:23:56,565 --> 00:23:59,699 You go, just a little bit, to the north, 521 00:23:59,742 --> 00:24:01,527 about seven meters, and you'll hit it. 522 00:24:01,570 --> 00:24:03,529 - Okay, but our window is closing. 523 00:24:03,572 --> 00:24:06,488 We've got, just over 30 days. 524 00:24:06,532 --> 00:24:08,838 Our window is gonna be closing very quickly. 525 00:24:08,882 --> 00:24:10,710 - You've got 'til the first week of September, 526 00:24:10,753 --> 00:24:13,495 before it starts getting nasty. 527 00:24:13,539 --> 00:24:14,714 - Cowboy's in agreement with me, 528 00:24:14,757 --> 00:24:17,543 but I want to get your permission 529 00:24:17,586 --> 00:24:20,850 to go, and to climb. 530 00:24:20,894 --> 00:24:23,157 - Just as soon as you get those drills, 531 00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:24,288 soon as they arrive, 532 00:24:24,332 --> 00:24:26,116 absolutely, you got it. 533 00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:27,596 It's gonna be a good year, 534 00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:28,815 and we're gonna find something. 535 00:24:28,858 --> 00:24:29,598 - Alright. - Goodnight. 536 00:24:29,642 --> 00:24:31,208 - Thanks Richard. 537 00:24:31,252 --> 00:24:32,558 Thank you, thank you very much, gentlemen. 538 00:24:32,601 --> 00:24:33,559 Appreciate it. 539 00:24:33,602 --> 00:24:34,560 - Alright, goodnight. 540 00:24:38,607 --> 00:24:39,652 We're going. - Yep. 541 00:24:39,695 --> 00:24:42,698 - The moment we got the news that 542 00:24:42,742 --> 00:24:44,570 we were gonna be leaving the next day, 543 00:24:44,613 --> 00:24:48,704 I did scramble to find a computer 544 00:24:48,748 --> 00:24:51,098 so I could Facebook my wife. 545 00:24:51,141 --> 00:24:52,534 - I thought you were calling at two, 546 00:24:52,578 --> 00:24:54,884 and we were at the bank, and the car overheated, 547 00:24:54,928 --> 00:24:56,277 and everything else. 548 00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:57,974 - That's what Andrew told me. 549 00:24:58,018 --> 00:24:58,540 - So, how are you? 550 00:24:58,584 --> 00:25:00,150 - I'm terrific. 551 00:25:00,194 --> 00:25:03,589 I'm gonna climb a mountain tomorrow, 552 00:25:03,632 --> 00:25:05,982 so you guys can be praying for me. 553 00:25:06,026 --> 00:25:08,637 - There's very little privacy at Murat Camping Inn, 554 00:25:08,681 --> 00:25:09,856 unless you had your own room. 555 00:25:09,899 --> 00:25:12,206 You're sleeping in a room that has 556 00:25:12,249 --> 00:25:13,686 three or four other guys in there, 557 00:25:13,729 --> 00:25:15,557 and they're getting ready to climb a mountain, 558 00:25:15,601 --> 00:25:17,472 so they're throwing everything in a bag. 559 00:25:17,516 --> 00:25:20,649 I'm getting ready to throw all my stuff in. 560 00:25:20,693 --> 00:25:23,957 I was in my little bubble, talking to my, 561 00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:25,959 I call her my girlfriend. 562 00:25:28,614 --> 00:25:29,789 I was focused. 563 00:25:29,832 --> 00:25:31,312 'Cause I knew it was my only chance 564 00:25:31,355 --> 00:25:32,879 to talk to her for awhile. 565 00:25:32,922 --> 00:25:36,273 I thought I was climbing later, but, 566 00:25:36,317 --> 00:25:40,626 it's kind of like military around here, You just uh..you know 567 00:25:40,669 --> 00:25:44,455 they tell you they're shipping out, you're shipping out. 568 00:25:44,499 --> 00:25:47,589 So, I'm shipping out in the morning. 569 00:25:47,633 --> 00:25:51,593 Just wanted to see y'all's faces 570 00:25:51,637 --> 00:25:53,813 before we leave. 571 00:25:53,856 --> 00:25:56,642 You don't know if this may be the end. 572 00:25:56,685 --> 00:26:00,646 It's a great expedition, but something may happen. 573 00:26:00,689 --> 00:26:02,343 I don't know when I'm gonna talk to y'all next. 574 00:26:02,386 --> 00:26:03,344 - You want me to pray for you, first? 575 00:26:03,387 --> 00:26:04,911 - Yes, please. 576 00:26:04,954 --> 00:26:06,260 - Father, I pray, right now, for my sweet husband, 577 00:26:06,303 --> 00:26:07,566 that you'll protect him -- 578 00:26:07,609 --> 00:26:09,393 - I did take this very seriously, 579 00:26:09,437 --> 00:26:12,614 knowing it was a treacherous climb, 580 00:26:12,658 --> 00:26:14,616 and anything could happen. 581 00:26:14,660 --> 00:26:16,139 - Bless him, Lord, 582 00:26:16,183 --> 00:26:17,706 and may this be a blessed time, and that he find the ark. 583 00:26:17,750 --> 00:26:18,620 And be home safely. 584 00:26:18,664 --> 00:26:19,752 In Jesus' name, Amen. 585 00:26:19,795 --> 00:26:21,231 - Amen. 586 00:26:24,365 --> 00:26:27,107 We prayed, and signed off, 587 00:26:27,150 --> 00:26:29,631 and the next morning, we were out the door, 588 00:26:29,675 --> 00:26:31,633 on our way up. 589 00:26:36,116 --> 00:26:38,118 - We begin our journey, 590 00:26:38,161 --> 00:26:40,468 try to get up to the first base camp. 591 00:26:41,904 --> 00:26:44,124 And then, overnight. 592 00:26:47,997 --> 00:26:48,911 We're on our way. 593 00:26:48,955 --> 00:26:52,523 ♪ Long live the young at heart 594 00:26:52,567 --> 00:26:55,570 ♪ You know who you are 595 00:26:55,614 --> 00:26:58,138 ♪ With your spirit burning 596 00:26:58,181 --> 00:26:59,618 - At 17,000 feet, 597 00:26:59,661 --> 00:27:01,620 Mount Ararat's dangerous terrain 598 00:27:01,663 --> 00:27:04,971 is a challenge for even the most experienced adventurer. 599 00:27:05,014 --> 00:27:06,886 Living atop a glacier at altitude, 600 00:27:06,929 --> 00:27:09,410 you're combating fatigue and hypoxia, 601 00:27:09,453 --> 00:27:10,629 working in white-outs, 602 00:27:10,672 --> 00:27:13,240 and 100 mile per hour winds. 603 00:27:13,283 --> 00:27:15,242 But, advancing technologies allow explorers 604 00:27:15,285 --> 00:27:18,027 a better glimpse into the ancient ice 605 00:27:18,071 --> 00:27:20,856 that legend says entombs the ark. 606 00:27:24,599 --> 00:27:28,559 ♪ Long live the young at heart 607 00:27:28,603 --> 00:27:31,693 ♪ You know who you are 608 00:27:31,737 --> 00:27:33,042 ♪ With your spirit burning 609 00:27:33,086 --> 00:27:36,306 - I didn't expect that long of a walk 610 00:27:36,350 --> 00:27:37,960 just to get up to the first camp. 611 00:27:39,745 --> 00:27:43,183 ♪ Long live the soul set free 612 00:27:43,226 --> 00:27:46,665 ♪ Don't be afraid to dream 613 00:27:46,708 --> 00:27:49,450 ♪ While the world's still turning 614 00:27:49,493 --> 00:27:52,671 ♪ Every moment, make it happen 615 00:27:52,714 --> 00:27:56,109 ♪ Two left feet, keep on dancing 616 00:27:56,152 --> 00:27:57,676 - Precisely six hours 617 00:28:00,330 --> 00:28:01,462 on the first day. 618 00:28:02,593 --> 00:28:03,725 And we 619 00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:05,814 have made it to base camp one. 620 00:28:05,858 --> 00:28:07,337 ♪ Beat by beat 621 00:28:07,381 --> 00:28:09,122 ♪ Breath by breath 622 00:28:09,165 --> 00:28:10,732 ♪ Walking hand in hand 623 00:28:10,776 --> 00:28:13,474 ♪ Step by step 624 00:28:13,517 --> 00:28:15,041 Time to overnight. 625 00:28:24,311 --> 00:28:27,009 - Six hour trek up to the first base camp. 626 00:28:27,053 --> 00:28:29,490 It was long, but I'm glad I'm here. 627 00:28:29,533 --> 00:28:32,580 I'm tired, but I'm glad that I did it. 628 00:28:32,623 --> 00:28:35,583 - Been a forensic architect for 27 years, 629 00:28:35,626 --> 00:28:38,238 and in my forensic architecture, I go around, 630 00:28:38,281 --> 00:28:40,196 and look at buildings, what's wrong with them. 631 00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:43,504 It's the equivalent of being a doctor, 632 00:28:43,547 --> 00:28:44,723 but to buildings. 633 00:28:44,766 --> 00:28:48,161 My background in architecture has been, 634 00:28:48,204 --> 00:28:51,425 a lot of it has been in water proofing materials. 635 00:28:51,468 --> 00:28:54,080 I told them I was interested in doing my dissertation 636 00:28:54,123 --> 00:28:55,603 on the waterproofing of Noah's Ark. 637 00:28:55,646 --> 00:28:57,170 As it says in the Bible, 638 00:28:57,213 --> 00:28:59,346 it was covered inside and out with pitch. 639 00:29:03,611 --> 00:29:05,569 - When I was even 17 years old, 640 00:29:05,613 --> 00:29:07,746 I remember seeing a documentary 641 00:29:07,789 --> 00:29:09,399 on the search for Noah's Ark. 642 00:29:09,443 --> 00:29:13,229 - This may be the most incredible film you will ever see. 643 00:29:16,798 --> 00:29:17,930 - Even as a young boy, I thought, 644 00:29:17,973 --> 00:29:19,758 "I want to do this someday." 645 00:29:19,801 --> 00:29:21,281 And then, 20 years later, 646 00:29:21,324 --> 00:29:23,413 I'm sitting at home, watching another documentary, 647 00:29:23,457 --> 00:29:27,591 the same documentary comes on T.V. again. 648 00:29:27,635 --> 00:29:29,768 I'm watching that, and thinking, 649 00:29:29,811 --> 00:29:31,552 "They've still not found Noah's Ark." 650 00:29:31,595 --> 00:29:34,729 And, really, that's when I took my 651 00:29:34,773 --> 00:29:37,210 skills as, really, a wilderness explorer, 652 00:29:37,253 --> 00:29:38,689 being in the woods, 653 00:29:38,733 --> 00:29:40,909 and took them to the mountaineering, 654 00:29:40,953 --> 00:29:43,172 kind of started to train in mountaineering, 655 00:29:43,216 --> 00:29:46,349 because I wanted to bring a tool to the team. 656 00:29:46,393 --> 00:29:48,047 - Get rested up, 657 00:29:48,090 --> 00:29:50,571 get re-hydrated, and get some food, 658 00:29:50,614 --> 00:29:52,616 and we'll spend two days here, 659 00:29:52,660 --> 00:29:55,184 and on up to camp two. 660 00:29:55,228 --> 00:29:57,665 - Everybody's gonna sleep real well tonight. 661 00:30:25,606 --> 00:30:27,695 - There are a number of different kinds of volcanoes. 662 00:30:27,738 --> 00:30:28,870 on earth. 663 00:30:31,786 --> 00:30:33,744 Some of them are actually underwater, 664 00:30:33,788 --> 00:30:35,703 most vulcanism goes on on the sea bed, 665 00:30:35,746 --> 00:30:38,227 and we see very little of it. 666 00:30:41,970 --> 00:30:45,017 Tectonic plates, that meet in the middle of oceans, 667 00:30:45,060 --> 00:30:47,671 have hundred, and hundreds, and hundreds of volcanoes. 668 00:30:47,715 --> 00:30:50,892 On land, we can classify volcanoes into 669 00:30:50,936 --> 00:30:54,026 ones that have built up over a long period of time, 670 00:30:54,069 --> 00:30:58,204 with successive eruptions, they might have layers of ash 671 00:30:58,247 --> 00:31:00,075 and lava flows, 672 00:31:00,119 --> 00:31:02,817 so the whole thing gets built up like a layer cake. 673 00:31:02,861 --> 00:31:04,775 We often call those strata volcanoes, 674 00:31:04,819 --> 00:31:06,386 or composite volcanoes. 675 00:31:06,429 --> 00:31:07,648 And that would be the kind of volcano 676 00:31:07,691 --> 00:31:10,433 that Mount Ararat, in Turkey, is. 677 00:31:11,347 --> 00:31:12,914 If you pile up a big mountain, 678 00:31:12,958 --> 00:31:15,134 then there are all kinds of erosive processes 679 00:31:15,177 --> 00:31:16,352 that bring it down again. 680 00:31:16,396 --> 00:31:18,180 And, particularly in the case of Ararat. 681 00:31:18,224 --> 00:31:19,660 It's glaciated, 682 00:31:19,703 --> 00:31:22,706 and will have been even more heavily glaciated, 683 00:31:22,750 --> 00:31:25,622 back in the ice ages. and that 684 00:31:25,666 --> 00:31:29,670 The action of those glaciers is to remove material, 685 00:31:29,713 --> 00:31:30,932 all the rocks and boulders, 686 00:31:30,976 --> 00:31:33,413 and carry them down the slope. 687 00:31:33,456 --> 00:31:36,851 And that's reflecting the erosive processes 688 00:31:36,895 --> 00:31:38,461 that have occurred. 689 00:31:39,158 --> 00:31:40,681 - So, this is base camp. 690 00:31:40,724 --> 00:31:42,596 We're about 10,000 feet. 691 00:31:42,639 --> 00:31:44,511 Camp two is, what? 692 00:31:45,729 --> 00:31:46,948 1,000 meter?" - 1,00 meters up. 693 00:31:46,992 --> 00:31:49,342 - 1,000 meters up. 694 00:31:49,385 --> 00:31:51,735 - Yesterday was our easiest day. 695 00:31:51,779 --> 00:31:52,301 Took us about -- 696 00:31:53,650 --> 00:31:55,609 Took us about six hours 697 00:31:55,652 --> 00:31:56,566 - There's some gunfire. 698 00:31:57,828 --> 00:32:00,048 - Yeah, we just heard some ... 699 00:32:00,092 --> 00:32:03,530 ... just heard some gunfire. 700 00:32:03,573 --> 00:32:04,618 Just right up above us, there, 701 00:32:04,661 --> 00:32:06,750 so somewhere ... 702 00:32:06,794 --> 00:32:07,577 That's interesting. 703 00:32:07,621 --> 00:32:08,796 - You get the feeling 704 00:32:08,839 --> 00:32:11,451 this is not a place you wanna get hurt. 705 00:32:11,494 --> 00:32:14,149 This is not the place you wanna do something stupid. 706 00:32:14,193 --> 00:32:16,586 Because, it's a long way to help. 707 00:32:21,026 --> 00:32:24,768 Not a great environment for anything to go wrong. 708 00:32:24,812 --> 00:32:26,422 - So, Jim's hurt, he's busted up, 709 00:32:26,466 --> 00:32:27,989 can't move. 710 00:32:28,033 --> 00:32:30,687 - It nearly killed him, nearly took his life. 711 00:32:30,731 --> 00:32:32,602 - Jim Irwin was a dedicated astronaut, 712 00:32:32,646 --> 00:32:33,734 a very fine man, 713 00:32:33,777 --> 00:32:37,651 a highly reasoned individual. 714 00:32:37,694 --> 00:32:40,001 He worked very hard on the Apollo 15 mission. 715 00:32:40,045 --> 00:32:43,048 - Dave, an extraordinary television picture, here. 716 00:32:43,091 --> 00:32:45,528 Okay, Huston as I 717 00:32:45,572 --> 00:32:48,662 stand out here, in the wonders of the unknown, 718 00:32:48,705 --> 00:32:50,881 at Hadley, I grow to realize, 719 00:32:50,925 --> 00:32:55,538 there's a fundamental truth to our nature. 720 00:32:55,582 --> 00:32:57,105 Man must explore. 721 00:32:58,498 --> 00:33:00,543 And this is exploration at its greatest. 722 00:33:00,587 --> 00:33:03,851 It was just a very significant time in my life, 723 00:33:03,894 --> 00:33:05,374 to be on another world. 724 00:33:05,418 --> 00:33:08,421 A world where there's no life, 725 00:33:08,464 --> 00:33:10,727 there was no sound, 726 00:33:10,771 --> 00:33:11,946 there was no sky, 727 00:33:11,990 --> 00:33:13,774 just looking up into the blackness of space. 728 00:33:13,817 --> 00:33:17,517 Looking up and marveling at the beauty of the earth. 729 00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:19,998 And, there it was, in the blackness of space, 730 00:33:20,041 --> 00:33:22,087 but, so small that I could hold it between my fingers, 731 00:33:22,130 --> 00:33:24,045 like a little marble. 732 00:33:24,089 --> 00:33:26,743 In a spiritual sense, I felt magnified. 733 00:33:26,787 --> 00:33:30,530 Because, I was holding God's special creation 734 00:33:30,573 --> 00:33:31,661 between my fingers, 735 00:33:31,705 --> 00:33:33,185 and really seeing it with his eyes. 736 00:33:33,228 --> 00:33:36,144 - Splashdown, we have splashdown. 737 00:33:36,188 --> 00:33:37,754 - His mission on Earth, 738 00:33:37,798 --> 00:33:41,541 after being an astronaut on the Apollo mission 15, 739 00:33:41,584 --> 00:33:44,457 is to find Noah's Ark. 740 00:33:44,500 --> 00:33:48,069 - He said, "You know, I'm planning a trip to Mount Ararat, 741 00:33:48,113 --> 00:33:49,157 "to look for Noah's Ark, 742 00:33:49,201 --> 00:33:50,419 do you think you'd want to go?" 743 00:33:50,463 --> 00:33:53,596 - Here was a man who stood on the moon, 744 00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:55,424 and he said that wasn't the greatest achievement 745 00:33:55,468 --> 00:33:56,338 of his life. 746 00:33:56,382 --> 00:33:57,861 Standing on Mount Ararat was. 747 00:33:57,905 --> 00:34:00,951 - He was disappointed, of course, when he'd come down, 748 00:34:00,995 --> 00:34:03,867 but, keep going back, year after year. 749 00:34:03,911 --> 00:34:05,913 - He just wanted to find out the truth. 750 00:34:10,744 --> 00:34:11,788 - So, today, we're gonna move camp, 751 00:34:11,832 --> 00:34:14,226 and go on up to 4200. 752 00:34:14,269 --> 00:34:16,663 And spend a couple of nights there to acclimate. 753 00:34:16,706 --> 00:34:18,795 And then, on the way up to the summit. 754 00:34:33,419 --> 00:34:36,639 - I found an anomaly, organic, 755 00:34:36,683 --> 00:34:38,598 on Mount Ararat. 756 00:34:38,641 --> 00:34:40,513 - He says, "There's two rectangular forms, 757 00:34:40,556 --> 00:34:43,037 "up on that mountain,under the ice. 758 00:34:43,081 --> 00:34:44,604 "I've seen them, 759 00:34:44,647 --> 00:34:47,128 "on this special satellite imaging that we got 760 00:34:47,172 --> 00:34:49,478 "that can penetrate ice." 761 00:34:50,566 --> 00:34:52,829 - It's a man-made object, organic. 762 00:34:52,873 --> 00:34:56,659 It's not a rock structure, or anything like that. 763 00:34:56,703 --> 00:34:58,574 How it got there, I don't know. 764 00:34:58,618 --> 00:35:01,142 And that's not for me to find out, 765 00:35:01,186 --> 00:35:02,752 it's for whoever goes up there and does it. 766 00:35:02,796 --> 00:35:05,364 But, it's definitely a man-made object. 767 00:35:05,407 --> 00:35:07,148 - Mr. X was 768 00:35:08,932 --> 00:35:11,892 a man who worked for NASA, 769 00:35:11,935 --> 00:35:15,156 and had access to a radar 770 00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:17,767 that could penetrate the ground, 771 00:35:17,811 --> 00:35:19,160 and go into the ice. 772 00:35:19,204 --> 00:35:22,598 - My relationship with the man we call Mr. X 773 00:35:22,642 --> 00:35:24,383 goes back about six years, 774 00:35:24,426 --> 00:35:27,299 to the beginning of our current project. 775 00:35:27,342 --> 00:35:28,648 - Said, "Well, 776 00:35:28,691 --> 00:35:30,693 " actually it's up there on the eastern plateau." 777 00:35:30,737 --> 00:35:32,782 - It is, in fact, the leads he gave us, 778 00:35:32,826 --> 00:35:35,263 that lead us to the site we're at. 779 00:35:35,307 --> 00:35:36,351 - It's in two pieces, 780 00:35:36,395 --> 00:35:37,657 now it's three, 781 00:35:37,700 --> 00:35:39,833 because the glacier's moving all the time. 782 00:35:39,876 --> 00:35:40,964 - And when the glaciers move, 783 00:35:41,008 --> 00:35:43,053 they start grinding things up. 784 00:35:43,097 --> 00:35:45,578 - And, I feel whatever this object is, 785 00:35:45,621 --> 00:35:48,276 here in the next four to five years, 786 00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:51,801 probably, that will be the end of the exploration, 787 00:35:51,845 --> 00:35:54,674 because it will be pretty well crushed. 788 00:35:54,717 --> 00:35:56,589 - He's also helped me with a project in Israel, 789 00:35:56,632 --> 00:35:58,678 not just on Mount Ararat. 790 00:35:58,721 --> 00:36:01,724 So, I've had a secondary type of 791 00:36:02,595 --> 00:36:05,554 means of testing his accuracy. 792 00:36:05,598 --> 00:36:08,427 We actually have dug, and been able to determine things. 793 00:36:08,470 --> 00:36:12,692 - There is photographs, taken by a branch of the government, 794 00:36:12,735 --> 00:36:14,520 years ago. 795 00:36:14,563 --> 00:36:17,523 - During the late 50s and early 60s, 796 00:36:17,566 --> 00:36:19,873 the American spy plane, the U-2, 797 00:36:19,916 --> 00:36:22,658 was making its global reconnaissance missions 798 00:36:22,702 --> 00:36:24,530 for military intelligence. 799 00:36:24,573 --> 00:36:26,793 Many of the flights passed over Ararat, 800 00:36:26,836 --> 00:36:28,055 on their way to Russia, 801 00:36:28,098 --> 00:36:29,796 and a number of pilots reported seeing, 802 00:36:29,839 --> 00:36:32,973 what looked like, a ship, locked in the ice below. 803 00:36:33,016 --> 00:36:36,977 - Irwin and I stood at the front of Incirlik Air Force Base, 804 00:36:37,020 --> 00:36:39,545 and the commanding general came out to the gate, 805 00:36:39,588 --> 00:36:40,894 and knew Irwin. 806 00:36:40,937 --> 00:36:43,940 They knew each other from times past. 807 00:36:43,984 --> 00:36:46,204 And Jim said, 808 00:36:46,247 --> 00:36:49,511 "Yeah, we're here looking for Noah's Ark". 809 00:36:49,555 --> 00:36:50,947 And the guy said, "Well, I've seen the ark." 810 00:36:52,819 --> 00:36:55,169 And, I said, "What?" 811 00:36:55,213 --> 00:36:58,738 And Jim's face was incredulous as well. 812 00:36:58,781 --> 00:37:01,219 And he said, "Yeah, I've got pictures of it". 813 00:37:02,437 --> 00:37:03,612 And we said, "Well, let's see them". 814 00:37:03,656 --> 00:37:05,135 He said, "Oh, no. 815 00:37:05,179 --> 00:37:06,789 "It's all classified." 816 00:37:07,660 --> 00:37:10,750 - For decades, the pictures remained classified 817 00:37:10,793 --> 00:37:15,320 but then, in 1995, the CIA finally released the photos. 818 00:37:15,363 --> 00:37:17,931 - The photographs are taken way back when, 819 00:37:17,974 --> 00:37:21,935 were U-2 and SR-71, 820 00:37:21,978 --> 00:37:25,721 which one I looked at, probably was a U-2. 821 00:37:25,765 --> 00:37:28,246 I couldn't find nothing that didn't look like a rock. 822 00:37:28,289 --> 00:37:30,987 - This report came from here in 1917. 823 00:37:31,031 --> 00:37:32,728 They came over from Russia, 824 00:37:32,772 --> 00:37:34,208 and they went up and took it apart. 825 00:37:34,252 --> 00:37:35,514 I mean, there was so much intrigue, 826 00:37:35,557 --> 00:37:38,560 and shadows. 827 00:37:38,604 --> 00:37:43,348 - In 1980, I served onboard the U.S. nuclear submarine, 828 00:37:43,391 --> 00:37:45,611 U.S.S. Casimir Pulaski. 829 00:37:45,654 --> 00:37:49,832 As sonar supervisor, I carried top secret clearance, 830 00:37:49,876 --> 00:37:53,532 and was in charge of classified material. 831 00:37:53,575 --> 00:37:54,750 - Somebody would say, "I have pictures, 832 00:37:54,794 --> 00:37:56,143 "here's the documentation." 833 00:37:56,186 --> 00:37:57,623 - In the year 1968, 834 00:37:57,666 --> 00:38:00,190 a friend and I were employed at the Smithsonian, 835 00:38:00,234 --> 00:38:03,455 in the vertebrate and paleontology section, 836 00:38:03,498 --> 00:38:04,630 and they had some photographs, 837 00:38:04,673 --> 00:38:06,240 which I went over and looked at, 838 00:38:06,284 --> 00:38:09,199 arranged on a table, that had been taken from a balloon, 839 00:38:09,243 --> 00:38:10,810 they told me, 840 00:38:10,853 --> 00:38:14,379 showing a ship-like object down in some ice. 841 00:38:14,422 --> 00:38:16,990 - Mount Ararat had been experiencing 842 00:38:17,033 --> 00:38:20,210 the warmest weather on record. 843 00:38:20,254 --> 00:38:24,302 As a result, the ice on the top of the mountain 844 00:38:24,345 --> 00:38:26,521 began to melt. 845 00:38:26,565 --> 00:38:28,131 Lo and behold, 846 00:38:28,175 --> 00:38:30,351 there sat a large ship. 847 00:38:30,395 --> 00:38:31,657 - They, pretty well, came out, 848 00:38:31,700 --> 00:38:34,007 and told everybody to keep their mouth shut. 849 00:38:35,225 --> 00:38:39,752 - The U.S. military science, and intelligence community 850 00:38:39,795 --> 00:38:41,580 were in complete agreement, 851 00:38:41,623 --> 00:38:44,365 that this was, in fact, Noah's Ark. 852 00:38:44,409 --> 00:38:45,497 - Many, many people believe the Ark 853 00:38:45,540 --> 00:38:47,281 has already been found. 854 00:38:47,325 --> 00:38:48,064 It's a done deal. 855 00:38:48,108 --> 00:38:49,588 - In 1959, 856 00:38:49,631 --> 00:38:51,764 a mysterious boat-shaped object 857 00:38:51,807 --> 00:38:55,028 was photographed by a Turkish reconnaissance pilot. 858 00:38:55,071 --> 00:38:57,987 A team of Turkish explorers and scientists 859 00:38:58,031 --> 00:38:59,641 examined the object, 860 00:38:59,685 --> 00:39:01,730 and discovered that its dimensions were indeed 861 00:39:01,774 --> 00:39:03,645 near those of the Ark, 862 00:39:03,689 --> 00:39:06,474 as stated in the Bible. 863 00:39:09,825 --> 00:39:13,568 The September 5, 1960 issue of Life Magazine 864 00:39:13,612 --> 00:39:15,309 carried the story. 865 00:39:15,353 --> 00:39:20,401 Then, in 1977, Ron Wyatt, an amateur archaeologist, 866 00:39:20,445 --> 00:39:22,882 inspected the site with a metal detector. 867 00:39:22,925 --> 00:39:24,579 - What we actually have found, 868 00:39:24,623 --> 00:39:27,539 is physical evidence that this is a boat. 869 00:39:27,582 --> 00:39:31,586 My personal feeling is, that it is Noah's Ark. 870 00:39:31,630 --> 00:39:32,587 - Is that Noah's Ark? 871 00:39:32,631 --> 00:39:33,893 No. What is it? 872 00:39:33,936 --> 00:39:37,418 It's the push-up in the earth of Riolite. 873 00:39:37,462 --> 00:39:40,552 And that was established by a geologist. 874 00:39:40,595 --> 00:39:41,814 - And, there have been people 875 00:39:41,857 --> 00:39:43,555 that have been up and down Mount Ararat, 876 00:39:43,598 --> 00:39:45,208 and have come back, and told lies. 877 00:39:45,252 --> 00:39:47,472 There have been movies filmed 878 00:39:47,515 --> 00:39:49,387 that have been outright deception. 879 00:39:49,430 --> 00:39:52,215 Back in March, Noah's Ark Ministries International, 880 00:39:52,259 --> 00:39:53,478 or NAMI, 881 00:39:53,521 --> 00:39:56,132 claimed to have found and entered Noah's Ark. 882 00:39:56,176 --> 00:39:57,395 - I mean, they had film footage, 883 00:39:57,438 --> 00:39:59,788 and they were inside the mountain, in a cave. 884 00:39:59,832 --> 00:40:02,051 And, they were knocking on these wooden panels. 885 00:40:02,095 --> 00:40:04,097 So, Don was really intrigued with this. 886 00:40:04,140 --> 00:40:05,403 "Is this real, is this genuine? 887 00:40:05,446 --> 00:40:06,447 "I must find out." 888 00:40:06,491 --> 00:40:09,232 So, that is the reason he went. 889 00:40:09,276 --> 00:40:10,843 - Donald Mackenzie was described 890 00:40:10,886 --> 00:40:12,801 as a Scottish Indian Jones, 891 00:40:12,845 --> 00:40:15,500 who had been to Turkey's Mount Ararat many times, 892 00:40:15,543 --> 00:40:17,502 in search of proof of Noah's Ark. 893 00:40:17,545 --> 00:40:19,678 But, in 2010, he failed to return 894 00:40:19,721 --> 00:40:22,289 from a trip up the mountain. 895 00:40:22,332 --> 00:40:24,465 - Went with the intention of 896 00:40:24,509 --> 00:40:26,685 getting answers to his questions, 897 00:40:26,728 --> 00:40:28,556 and then, he simply disappeared. 898 00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:29,688 - Inside of a cave, 899 00:40:29,731 --> 00:40:31,559 they found the remains of the ark. 900 00:40:31,603 --> 00:40:33,518 What's it doing in a cave? 901 00:40:33,561 --> 00:40:35,824 Noah didn't drive the ark into a cave. 902 00:40:35,868 --> 00:40:37,522 - They build that stuff. 903 00:40:37,565 --> 00:40:39,262 They talked to people that said, 904 00:40:39,306 --> 00:40:42,091 "Yeah, they had us up there, carpenters doing this, 905 00:40:42,135 --> 00:40:44,006 "They said this was gonna be a Noah's Ark, 906 00:40:45,965 --> 00:40:47,575 for a film, 907 00:40:47,619 --> 00:40:48,620 a movie set." 908 00:40:48,663 --> 00:40:49,534 - "Oh, yes, yes, yes." 909 00:40:49,577 --> 00:40:50,796 "Everybody knew, yes, yes. 910 00:40:50,839 --> 00:40:52,580 "There were paid money to carry the wood up 911 00:40:52,624 --> 00:40:53,538 "to the mountain, 912 00:40:53,581 --> 00:40:55,757 "and construct the false ark. 913 00:40:55,801 --> 00:40:57,672 "Yes, yes, oh yes." 914 00:40:57,716 --> 00:40:59,282 - I think it probably got to the certain point 915 00:40:59,326 --> 00:41:02,024 to where they had so much invested in it, 916 00:41:02,068 --> 00:41:04,636 that they couldn't admit that, 917 00:41:04,679 --> 00:41:06,681 eh, this could be a hoax. 918 00:41:06,725 --> 00:41:08,596 - If it's God's will that I don't see 919 00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:10,380 the answers to my questions, 920 00:41:10,424 --> 00:41:12,470 then I accept that. 921 00:41:12,513 --> 00:41:13,906 I must accept that. 922 00:41:15,690 --> 00:41:19,564 But we don't know what God's will is for the future. 923 00:41:19,607 --> 00:41:23,176 So, we just continue seeking. 924 00:41:23,219 --> 00:41:25,700 - Here comes our gear on the horses. 925 00:41:25,744 --> 00:41:27,833 Up to camp two, at 4200 meters. 926 00:41:27,876 --> 00:41:29,791 So, I'm getting out of the way. 927 00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:32,751 Here goes the last horse. 928 00:41:34,753 --> 00:41:37,799 They are much more faster 929 00:41:39,018 --> 00:41:40,585 than we are. 930 00:41:40,628 --> 00:41:42,717 But the Kurds 931 00:41:42,761 --> 00:41:44,197 can keep up with them, 932 00:41:45,981 --> 00:41:47,679 at the horse's pace. 933 00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:49,855 Plus they smoke. 934 00:41:51,770 --> 00:41:53,336 I don't know how they do it. 935 00:41:57,776 --> 00:42:01,040 No wonder they call this Agri Dagh, 936 00:42:01,083 --> 00:42:03,433 The Painful Mountain. 937 00:42:03,477 --> 00:42:05,261 And, I can tell you, 938 00:42:05,305 --> 00:42:06,654 that it is. 939 00:42:09,614 --> 00:42:11,093 - At 4200 camp, 940 00:42:11,137 --> 00:42:14,096 it was almost like the environment really changed. 941 00:42:16,577 --> 00:42:18,666 We went from rocky slopes, and what have you, 942 00:42:18,710 --> 00:42:19,972 to really rocky. 943 00:42:23,976 --> 00:42:26,631 Not even hardly a level place to put a tent. 944 00:42:30,417 --> 00:42:34,160 Like being on the surface of a Star Trek moon, out there. 945 00:42:36,728 --> 00:42:38,773 It really felt like you were on a different planet. 946 00:42:46,041 --> 00:42:48,609 I did have some fears the first night. 947 00:42:49,654 --> 00:42:51,220 When we first got up there, what happened? 948 00:42:51,264 --> 00:42:52,395 A guy had already fallen, 949 00:42:52,439 --> 00:42:54,354 and broken his shoulder and his leg. 950 00:42:54,397 --> 00:42:57,618 - The Kurds around here tend to yell a lot. 951 00:42:57,662 --> 00:43:00,621 But this was a gut-wrenching scream. 952 00:43:00,665 --> 00:43:02,101 Several of them. 953 00:43:02,144 --> 00:43:06,018 - We got a guy who fell down the ravine, on the snow. 954 00:43:06,061 --> 00:43:07,672 Looks like he's got a compound break in his leg. 955 00:43:07,715 --> 00:43:08,934 We're back at camp, 956 00:43:08,977 --> 00:43:10,544 trying to find stuff to make a stretcher. 957 00:43:10,588 --> 00:43:11,719 He's a big fella. 958 00:43:11,763 --> 00:43:12,633 We're gonna bring you along for the ride. 959 00:43:18,639 --> 00:43:20,859 - Gotta get to the rock, It's most steady. 960 00:43:27,213 --> 00:43:28,344 - He's got it, he's a doctor. 961 00:43:41,793 --> 00:43:43,316 - It's coming. 962 00:43:43,359 --> 00:43:44,534 Yeah, 963 00:43:44,578 --> 00:43:45,535 Okay? 964 00:43:45,579 --> 00:43:47,755 Just stay warm, are you warm? 965 00:43:47,799 --> 00:43:49,365 Okay. 966 00:43:49,409 --> 00:43:51,672 He was very uncomfortable with his shoulder dislocated. 967 00:43:51,716 --> 00:43:52,847 I tried to set it. 968 00:43:52,891 --> 00:43:54,893 But shoulders are very difficult to set. 969 00:43:54,936 --> 00:43:56,285 I tried once, I told him, "no more", 970 00:43:56,329 --> 00:43:59,637 because it will just 971 00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:01,160 knock you out with pain. 972 00:44:01,203 --> 00:44:02,378 - So, what we're waiting for, 973 00:44:02,422 --> 00:44:04,554 is a military helicopter to come. 974 00:44:04,598 --> 00:44:07,079 At the moment the visibility is good, 975 00:44:07,122 --> 00:44:09,559 but in these conditions, you never know 976 00:44:09,603 --> 00:44:11,170 when the helicopter arrives, 977 00:44:11,213 --> 00:44:13,215 it may cloud over, and we'll have to wait. 978 00:44:13,259 --> 00:44:16,436 - A helicopter here is not normally supposed to happen. 979 00:44:16,479 --> 00:44:19,700 Because, any one, of a number of fighting factions, 980 00:44:19,744 --> 00:44:20,919 could shoot it down. 981 00:44:20,962 --> 00:44:22,877 - The weather just started clouding up, 982 00:44:22,921 --> 00:44:24,574 and there was zero viz. 983 00:44:24,618 --> 00:44:27,795 So, after about an hour of loiter time, 984 00:44:27,839 --> 00:44:32,104 they decided that they'd have to move the casualty down. 985 00:44:32,147 --> 00:44:34,410 They were going towards 3200, 986 00:44:34,454 --> 00:44:36,804 but there's another place between here and 3200, 987 00:44:36,848 --> 00:44:38,545 only about a quarter of the way down, 988 00:44:38,588 --> 00:44:40,590 and the helicopter was able to land there. 989 00:44:41,809 --> 00:44:42,941 - So, a big fella. 990 00:44:42,984 --> 00:44:45,030 He had, not very good equipment. 991 00:44:45,073 --> 00:44:45,944 He was alone. 992 00:44:45,987 --> 00:44:47,554 - He did not have crampons on. 993 00:44:47,597 --> 00:44:50,426 - Physically, not in the best of conditions 994 00:44:50,470 --> 00:44:51,950 to be doing something like this. 995 00:44:51,993 --> 00:44:52,951 He must have lost his footing, 996 00:44:52,994 --> 00:44:54,735 and it cost him. 997 00:45:08,488 --> 00:45:11,491 - On the top of that mountain, life slows down a lot. 998 00:45:11,534 --> 00:45:13,536 You have time to think. 999 00:45:13,580 --> 00:45:15,756 But, when you have that time to really reflect, 1000 00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:17,802 and to chew on stuff, 1001 00:45:17,845 --> 00:45:20,065 and you run out of the simple little decisions 1002 00:45:20,108 --> 00:45:21,544 that you have to make in a busy life, 1003 00:45:21,588 --> 00:45:23,677 and all you are left with is the big stuff, 1004 00:45:23,721 --> 00:45:26,811 you have the chance to, kinda, explore that, 1005 00:45:26,854 --> 00:45:29,727 if not with others, at least personally. 1006 00:46:16,730 --> 00:46:18,776 - Snowed last night. 1007 00:46:18,819 --> 00:46:23,519 It either blew off, or started melting already. 1008 00:46:23,563 --> 00:46:25,347 It's very beautiful up here. 1009 00:46:25,391 --> 00:46:26,740 It was kind of windy last night, 1010 00:46:26,784 --> 00:46:28,394 but the wind has died down, yet again. 1011 00:46:28,437 --> 00:46:29,699 Feeling good. 1012 00:46:29,743 --> 00:46:32,615 I think we're starting to physically get ready 1013 00:46:32,659 --> 00:46:33,965 for the next part of the climb, 1014 00:46:34,008 --> 00:46:36,924 which is going up to the top. 1015 00:46:38,491 --> 00:46:40,362 - What is hopeful, is that there is enough ice up there 1016 00:46:40,406 --> 00:46:43,148 to entomb 1017 00:46:43,191 --> 00:46:45,411 a vessel of quite some size. 1018 00:46:45,454 --> 00:46:47,326 I think that most people would agree 1019 00:46:47,369 --> 00:46:48,849 that we could be dealing with 1020 00:46:48,893 --> 00:46:51,460 a hundred feet of ice, or more, in some areas. 1021 00:46:52,592 --> 00:46:55,813 So, it could be saved for all of perpetuity, 1022 00:46:55,856 --> 00:46:57,989 somewhere to have a woolly mammoth would be saved, 1023 00:46:58,032 --> 00:47:01,557 after digging that up in the Siberian wilderness. 1024 00:47:01,601 --> 00:47:03,124 So, that's the theory, at least. 1025 00:47:03,168 --> 00:47:04,778 - For remnant wood to be preserved 1026 00:47:04,822 --> 00:47:06,824 for long amounts of time, 1027 00:47:06,867 --> 00:47:09,870 generally you need an oxygen free environment. 1028 00:47:09,914 --> 00:47:11,959 You need that piece of wood to be locked 1029 00:47:12,003 --> 00:47:14,744 or entombed in sediments, like in a bog, 1030 00:47:14,788 --> 00:47:16,659 or underneath a lot of marine sediments, 1031 00:47:16,703 --> 00:47:18,618 that is oxygen free. 1032 00:47:18,661 --> 00:47:20,663 Because when you have oxygen in an environment, 1033 00:47:20,707 --> 00:47:22,796 you have fungi, and you have bacteria, that, 1034 00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:25,538 once that organism dies, that tree dies, 1035 00:47:25,581 --> 00:47:27,757 bacteria and fungi are gonna attack, 1036 00:47:27,801 --> 00:47:30,630 and start eating and decomposing that piece of wood. 1037 00:47:30,673 --> 00:47:31,936 - What we don't know, 1038 00:47:31,979 --> 00:47:34,677 is how long the ark was exposed to the elements 1039 00:47:34,721 --> 00:47:36,418 prior to being entombed in ice. 1040 00:47:36,462 --> 00:47:39,073 - If organic material, or wood, or other features 1041 00:47:39,117 --> 00:47:40,422 was locked in the ice, 1042 00:47:40,466 --> 00:47:42,424 and remained cold and dry, 1043 00:47:42,468 --> 00:47:44,339 it would have the potential to last very long. 1044 00:47:44,383 --> 00:47:46,341 - There's no reason to think that wood 1045 00:47:46,385 --> 00:47:48,778 of any kind of density or size, 1046 00:47:48,822 --> 00:47:51,303 wouldn't be able to survive, locked in ice 1047 00:47:51,346 --> 00:47:53,479 for 4,360 years. 1048 00:47:53,522 --> 00:47:56,264 I mean we have the frozen mammoths in Siberia, 1049 00:47:56,308 --> 00:47:58,527 and if you believe evolutionary time scales, 1050 00:47:58,571 --> 00:48:00,703 they've been there for 25,000 years. 1051 00:48:00,747 --> 00:48:02,444 - I think the only slam dunk that we have 1052 00:48:02,488 --> 00:48:05,012 is that we've just gotta drill something up. 1053 00:48:05,056 --> 00:48:07,101 And it's gotta be wood. 1054 00:48:10,757 --> 00:48:13,542 - 1:00 breakfast, 2-2:30 departure? 1055 00:48:13,586 --> 00:48:15,370 - Yeah, 2:30, or so, departure. 1056 00:48:15,414 --> 00:48:16,632 That seems to usually work. 1057 00:48:16,676 --> 00:48:18,852 Now, my biggest concern is, 1058 00:48:18,896 --> 00:48:20,723 I'm not too worried about what's happening up top, 1059 00:48:20,767 --> 00:48:22,682 but if you see a lot of clouds come up from below, 1060 00:48:22,725 --> 00:48:24,336 that may cause us to delay. 1061 00:48:24,379 --> 00:48:26,599 But, if it's clear below, 1062 00:48:26,642 --> 00:48:27,687 but cloudy up top, I'm not as worried about that. 1063 00:48:27,730 --> 00:48:28,688 'Cause it usually blows over. 1064 00:48:28,731 --> 00:48:30,603 But, if it's coming from below, 1065 00:48:31,647 --> 00:48:35,216 then that could be a less than ideal day, to start. 1066 00:48:36,348 --> 00:48:40,178 - It's trending about 10 to 15 degrees colder 1067 00:48:40,221 --> 00:48:41,831 than I've ever seen it. 1068 00:48:41,875 --> 00:48:43,877 That little plaque up there, that shiny thing, 1069 00:48:43,921 --> 00:48:45,139 that's actually a commemorative. 1070 00:48:45,183 --> 00:48:47,359 There was a Iranian climber that disappeared 1071 00:48:47,402 --> 00:48:48,099 a couple years ago. 1072 00:48:48,142 --> 00:48:49,622 They never found him. 1073 00:48:49,665 --> 00:48:51,189 - Right before you make your ascent up the mountain, 1074 00:48:51,232 --> 00:48:53,539 they have that plaque up there, of all the people who died. 1075 00:48:53,582 --> 00:48:55,236 And that was terrifying for me. 1076 00:48:55,280 --> 00:48:58,022 I was like, "Is my name gonna be on that plaque? 1077 00:48:58,065 --> 00:49:00,502 "What am I doing here?" 1078 00:49:00,546 --> 00:49:02,678 Those kind of emotions run through you. 1079 00:49:02,722 --> 00:49:04,637 And then the fact that you think 1080 00:49:04,680 --> 00:49:06,117 you may just die from the Kurd food 1081 00:49:06,160 --> 00:49:08,206 always crosses your mind. 1082 00:49:17,693 --> 00:49:20,914 Basically, whatever they put in front of me, I'd eat it. 1083 00:49:20,958 --> 00:49:22,655 Who knows what it was. 1084 00:49:22,698 --> 00:49:24,309 - It's gonna be 1085 00:49:24,352 --> 00:49:26,050 and adventure, I think, for me, at least. 1086 00:49:26,093 --> 00:49:27,703 I've been eating, drinking well. 1087 00:49:30,228 --> 00:49:34,145 I think going up is gonna be 1088 00:49:34,188 --> 00:49:35,015 a whole lot different 1089 00:49:35,059 --> 00:49:36,364 at that altitude. 1090 00:49:36,408 --> 00:49:37,713 I'm not used to it. 1091 00:49:43,806 --> 00:49:46,853 - We got up about 1 a.m. 1092 00:49:46,896 --> 00:49:48,507 We packed up, had a light breakfast 1093 00:49:48,550 --> 00:49:50,204 that the Kurds prepared for us. 1094 00:49:51,814 --> 00:49:55,905 And, about 3 a.m. we started to make for the summit. 1095 00:49:57,168 --> 00:49:58,996 It's dark, it's cold, 1096 00:49:59,039 --> 00:50:00,780 you got your headlamps on. 1097 00:50:00,823 --> 00:50:02,564 You want to be back in your sleeping bag. 1098 00:50:02,608 --> 00:50:05,219 You know you're gonna have to climb this trail in the dark. 1099 00:50:05,263 --> 00:50:06,481 You can't see. 1100 00:50:06,525 --> 00:50:07,961 These steps are steep. 1101 00:50:08,005 --> 00:50:10,790 The journey from 14,000 feet, to nearly 17,000 feet, 1102 00:50:10,833 --> 00:50:13,575 this is the steepest part of the climb. 1103 00:50:26,675 --> 00:50:29,548 Somewhere between 15,000 and 16,000 feet, 1104 00:50:29,591 --> 00:50:31,376 altitude hit me. 1105 00:50:31,419 --> 00:50:33,465 And I was really fatigued. 1106 00:50:36,120 --> 00:50:38,731 I was tired, I was slowing down. 1107 00:50:38,774 --> 00:50:41,864 I was getting nauseous, and actually stopped to throw up. 1108 00:50:45,216 --> 00:50:47,044 My hands are completely numb. 1109 00:50:47,087 --> 00:50:48,523 - Cold or just tired? 1110 00:50:49,220 --> 00:50:50,134 Or both? 1111 00:50:50,177 --> 00:50:50,786 - I think the lack of oxygen. 1112 00:50:50,830 --> 00:50:52,092 - Yeah. 1113 00:50:54,399 --> 00:50:55,704 - Look at the mountain's shadow now. 1114 00:50:55,748 --> 00:50:58,664 - Oh, yeah, that's gorgeous. 1115 00:50:59,491 --> 00:51:00,622 - It was about six in the morning, 1116 00:51:00,666 --> 00:51:02,624 and the sun had just started coming up, 1117 00:51:02,668 --> 00:51:03,843 and I turned around, 1118 00:51:03,886 --> 00:51:06,324 and I saw the shadow of Ararat below me. 1119 00:51:06,367 --> 00:51:08,543 It really inspired me to say, 1120 00:51:08,587 --> 00:51:10,415 "Aaron, you can do this. 1121 00:51:10,458 --> 00:51:12,112 "Keep going. 1122 00:51:12,156 --> 00:51:14,636 "You just got a little bit further to go. 1123 00:51:17,683 --> 00:51:19,250 We're up here at the 1124 00:51:20,120 --> 00:51:20,990 glacier, 1125 00:51:21,774 --> 00:51:23,384 putting on our crampons. 1126 00:51:24,211 --> 00:51:25,082 It was 1127 00:51:26,518 --> 00:51:29,434 a pretty miserable climb. 1128 00:51:29,477 --> 00:51:31,088 Got another hour on the ice, here. 1129 00:51:34,047 --> 00:51:35,353 And, I'm freezing. 1130 00:51:42,664 --> 00:51:45,450 ♪ God knows you question your courage 1131 00:51:45,493 --> 00:51:48,366 ♪ Some days I can't walk for stumbling 1132 00:51:48,409 --> 00:51:51,369 ♪ If we could only see what we're becoming 1133 00:51:53,849 --> 00:51:55,373 - Boys, 1134 00:51:55,416 --> 00:51:57,679 we're almost to the top of the first false summit. 1135 00:51:57,723 --> 00:51:58,724 - I really thought about 1136 00:51:58,767 --> 00:52:00,552 turning around and going down. 1137 00:52:00,595 --> 00:52:03,381 I just thought, "I don't know that I can do this." 1138 00:52:04,686 --> 00:52:08,212 - To the left are some pretty serious crevasses. 1139 00:52:09,256 --> 00:52:11,824 We were warned by the Kurds to stay right. 1140 00:52:13,521 --> 00:52:16,045 Apparently it's pretty dangerous. 1141 00:52:16,829 --> 00:52:18,222 ♪ When you feel it 1142 00:52:18,265 --> 00:52:19,527 ♪ Once you see it 1143 00:52:19,571 --> 00:52:21,094 ♪ And you breathe it 1144 00:52:21,138 --> 00:52:23,009 ♪ It's unforgettable. 1145 00:52:23,052 --> 00:52:24,315 ♪ When you know it 1146 00:52:24,358 --> 00:52:25,620 ♪ Once you know it 1147 00:52:25,664 --> 00:52:27,144 ♪ And you hold it 1148 00:52:27,187 --> 00:52:28,710 ♪ It's unforgettable. 1149 00:52:34,107 --> 00:52:35,369 - Well, this is it. 1150 00:52:35,413 --> 00:52:37,893 ♪ God knows you question your courage 1151 00:52:37,937 --> 00:52:40,896 ♪ Some days I can't walk for stumbling 1152 00:52:40,940 --> 00:52:43,812 ♪ If we could only see what we're becoming 1153 00:52:46,250 --> 00:52:49,253 ♪ So, keep on keeping on 1154 00:52:49,296 --> 00:52:52,169 ♪ Keeping on 1155 00:52:52,212 --> 00:52:53,735 ♪ And sing along 1156 00:52:53,779 --> 00:52:56,999 ♪ Sing along, sing along 1157 00:52:57,043 --> 00:52:58,000 - It's my turn. 1158 00:52:58,697 --> 00:53:00,220 ♪ To the dreamers 1159 00:53:00,264 --> 00:53:01,526 ♪ Wide-eyed believers 1160 00:53:01,569 --> 00:53:04,746 ♪ Hanging on to hope by a thread 1161 00:53:04,790 --> 00:53:05,965 ♪ To the soulful 1162 00:53:06,008 --> 00:53:07,967 ♪ Heart open and hopeful 1163 00:53:08,620 --> 00:53:09,664 - This is it. 1164 00:53:09,708 --> 00:53:10,752 It's once in a lifetime. 1165 00:53:10,796 --> 00:53:12,232 ♪ When you feel it 1166 00:53:12,276 --> 00:53:13,755 ♪ Once you see it 1167 00:53:13,799 --> 00:53:15,104 ♪ And you breathe it 1168 00:53:15,148 --> 00:53:16,889 ♪ It's unforgettable. 1169 00:53:16,932 --> 00:53:18,195 ♪ When you know it 1170 00:53:18,238 --> 00:53:19,544 ♪ Once you know it 1171 00:53:19,587 --> 00:53:21,154 ♪ And you hold it 1172 00:53:21,198 --> 00:53:22,764 ♪ It's unforgettable. 1173 00:53:22,808 --> 00:53:24,375 ♪ When you feel it 1174 00:53:24,418 --> 00:53:25,680 ♪ Once you see it 1175 00:53:25,724 --> 00:53:27,116 ♪ And you breathe it 1176 00:53:27,160 --> 00:53:28,596 ♪ It's unforgettable. 1177 00:53:31,904 --> 00:53:33,079 - We're at the summit! 1178 00:53:33,122 --> 00:53:35,037 I never though I'd make it. 1179 00:53:35,081 --> 00:53:38,345 I have to give credit to Bill and Will for pushing me. 1180 00:53:38,389 --> 00:53:39,607 I think the last 1181 00:53:41,609 --> 00:53:42,697 part of it was mental. 1182 00:53:45,091 --> 00:53:46,223 I just wasn't 1183 00:53:47,485 --> 00:53:50,662 really mentally prepared to push myself. 1184 00:53:50,705 --> 00:53:52,751 to the summit, but, 1185 00:53:52,794 --> 00:53:55,406 I made it, and I'm really glad I did. 1186 00:53:55,449 --> 00:53:56,842 - Once you summit, 1187 00:53:56,885 --> 00:53:58,974 and you realize that you've actually accomplished 1188 00:53:59,018 --> 00:54:01,586 something that is very hard to do, 1189 00:54:01,629 --> 00:54:03,370 it stirs the soul. 1190 00:54:03,414 --> 00:54:04,893 And I was stirred. 1191 00:54:04,937 --> 00:54:07,200 - This is a place that very few people have ever been. 1192 00:54:08,114 --> 00:54:11,596 This is a place where civilization started again. 1193 00:54:12,466 --> 00:54:14,860 And, it was, you know, 1194 00:54:14,903 --> 00:54:16,644 just chills were all over me. 1195 00:54:16,688 --> 00:54:18,559 - I couldn't say a word, I was like, 1196 00:54:18,603 --> 00:54:20,039 "I'm really here. 1197 00:54:20,082 --> 00:54:21,780 "This is awesome". 1198 00:54:21,823 --> 00:54:23,303 ♪ And you breathe it 1199 00:54:23,347 --> 00:54:24,522 ♪ It's unforgettable 1200 00:54:24,565 --> 00:54:26,175 ♪ When you know it 1201 00:54:26,219 --> 00:54:27,525 ♪ Once you know it 1202 00:54:27,568 --> 00:54:29,004 ♪ And you hold it 1203 00:54:29,048 --> 00:54:30,658 ♪ It's unforgettable. 1204 00:54:31,529 --> 00:54:34,140 - The ark has a very, very strong pull to it. 1205 00:54:34,183 --> 00:54:36,577 I think, if one is not careful, it can become an obsession. 1206 00:54:36,621 --> 00:54:39,450 - Part of you wants to fold the dream up, 1207 00:54:39,493 --> 00:54:42,453 just put it away, and think, "Why am I wasting my time?" 1208 00:54:43,280 --> 00:54:44,498 But there's still a part of you, 1209 00:54:44,542 --> 00:54:46,892 that's always looking for this sliver of hope. 1210 00:54:48,197 --> 00:54:51,723 Well, we look for more information, 1211 00:54:52,811 --> 00:54:55,379 and we take the leads that we're given, 1212 00:54:56,554 --> 00:54:57,729 and we work with them. 1213 00:54:57,772 --> 00:55:00,558 - I'm not religious, and that sense that 1214 00:55:00,601 --> 00:55:04,562 I'm gonna have my emotions put me somewhere there, 1215 00:55:04,605 --> 00:55:08,130 I do it strictly technical and scientific. 1216 00:55:08,740 --> 00:55:10,219 And, if I say there's something there, 1217 00:55:10,263 --> 00:55:11,612 it's there. 1218 00:55:11,656 --> 00:55:13,135 Period. 1219 00:55:14,311 --> 00:55:17,357 - Based on the GPS coordinates given to us by Mr X 1220 00:55:17,401 --> 00:55:19,707 in 2009, and then in 2010, 1221 00:55:19,751 --> 00:55:21,361 what we did, was we set up a grid, 1222 00:55:21,405 --> 00:55:24,930 and started surveying with the ground penetrating radar. 1223 00:55:24,973 --> 00:55:27,498 Knowing this is in ice area, in a locked glacier, 1224 00:55:27,541 --> 00:55:31,893 we concluded GPR was the go-to investigation tool. 1225 00:55:31,937 --> 00:55:34,200 What ground penetrating radar does, 1226 00:55:34,243 --> 00:55:36,811 it sends continuous bursts of short wave length 1227 00:55:36,855 --> 00:55:39,292 electromagnetic energy into the ground. 1228 00:55:39,336 --> 00:55:41,555 It basically penetrates the ice, 1229 00:55:41,599 --> 00:55:44,123 and when it bounces off something that's either harder, 1230 00:55:44,166 --> 00:55:45,167 or of a different material, 1231 00:55:45,211 --> 00:55:46,517 it will reflect. 1232 00:55:47,344 --> 00:55:48,780 This is the bedrock, down here. 1233 00:55:48,823 --> 00:55:51,130 This is the ice, up in here. 1234 00:55:51,173 --> 00:55:53,350 And, as you see, this green circles 1235 00:55:53,393 --> 00:55:56,483 around a very unique-looking straight line, 1236 00:55:56,527 --> 00:56:00,182 that's at an angle of approximately 30 degrees 1237 00:56:00,226 --> 00:56:01,619 to the horizontal. 1238 00:56:01,662 --> 00:56:03,360 These two anomalies were symmetric, 1239 00:56:03,403 --> 00:56:05,187 in other words, almost like they would be, 1240 00:56:05,231 --> 00:56:07,233 this shape in the ice. 1241 00:56:09,714 --> 00:56:13,326 So, the results of 2010 were promising. 1242 00:56:16,285 --> 00:56:19,114 In 2011 we did all the red lines. 1243 00:56:19,158 --> 00:56:20,638 This data we collected in order to get 1244 00:56:20,681 --> 00:56:23,510 more of a three dimensional diagram of what was there. 1245 00:56:23,554 --> 00:56:25,556 The bedrock is gonna be blue. 1246 00:56:25,599 --> 00:56:27,558 This is all filled with ice above it, 1247 00:56:27,601 --> 00:56:29,603 where the grey is. 1248 00:56:29,647 --> 00:56:32,258 And then, the pink things are basically the anomalies 1249 00:56:32,301 --> 00:56:33,520 that are in the ice, itself. 1250 00:56:33,564 --> 00:56:35,566 If you take three dimensional data, 1251 00:56:35,609 --> 00:56:37,350 you get a little bit better idea 1252 00:56:37,394 --> 00:56:40,527 of how that would look in reality. 1253 00:56:40,571 --> 00:56:42,529 - I felt like we had a fairly 1254 00:56:42,573 --> 00:56:44,792 strong expedition in 2011. 1255 00:56:46,054 --> 00:56:47,621 We had good support from the Kurdistine. 1256 00:56:47,665 --> 00:56:50,058 We had the ground penetrating radar, 1257 00:56:50,102 --> 00:56:51,756 and we were prepared to dig, 1258 00:56:51,799 --> 00:56:54,323 and made an attempt at one of the dig locations 1259 00:56:54,367 --> 00:56:57,501 that we were told, "This is where you need to go". 1260 00:56:57,544 --> 00:56:59,590 We spent another 10 days trying to dig down 1261 00:56:59,633 --> 00:57:01,113 to this location, 1262 00:57:01,156 --> 00:57:02,897 but we were inexperienced in how to make that happen. 1263 00:57:02,941 --> 00:57:05,465 So, we didn't have the right kind of hoists, and so forth, 1264 00:57:05,509 --> 00:57:06,727 to help us in the process, 1265 00:57:06,771 --> 00:57:08,512 and so we failed, during our permit time, 1266 00:57:08,555 --> 00:57:10,992 to get down deep, to where we thought we needed to be. 1267 00:57:11,036 --> 00:57:13,604 - We would go back and talk to Mr. X, and say, 1268 00:57:13,647 --> 00:57:14,779 "Okay, where were we? 1269 00:57:14,822 --> 00:57:16,389 "Were we close, were we not?" 1270 00:57:16,433 --> 00:57:19,392 In this 2011 work, he said "You're right next to it". 1271 00:57:19,436 --> 00:57:21,612 - 2012 we came back, more prepared than ever. 1272 00:57:22,613 --> 00:57:24,223 We had a great plan. 1273 00:57:24,266 --> 00:57:26,704 Assembled, I think, a rock star team. 1274 00:57:26,747 --> 00:57:28,923 - 2012, we found more anomalies, 1275 00:57:28,967 --> 00:57:31,709 in this case, because we did three dimensional techniques, 1276 00:57:31,752 --> 00:57:34,625 it was easier to take slices, 1277 00:57:34,668 --> 00:57:36,496 both horizontally and vertically, 1278 00:57:36,540 --> 00:57:38,455 so we could see more information. 1279 00:57:38,498 --> 00:57:41,066 I was looking, initially, at these red zones, 1280 00:57:41,109 --> 00:57:43,677 as being the areas to go concentrate on. 1281 00:57:43,721 --> 00:57:47,594 And, we see this, sort of, red and yellow square area, 1282 00:57:47,638 --> 00:57:48,856 and we're thinking that is interesting, 1283 00:57:48,900 --> 00:57:51,206 because it keeps showing up 1284 00:57:51,250 --> 00:57:54,514 at the 30 to 40 foot range. 1285 00:57:54,558 --> 00:57:56,037 And we say, 1286 00:57:56,081 --> 00:57:57,125 "Okay, we have satellite imagery saying it's there. 1287 00:57:57,169 --> 00:57:58,300 "We have an anomaly there. 1288 00:57:58,344 --> 00:57:59,737 "we have all this information." 1289 00:57:59,780 --> 00:58:01,434 So, we're thinking that's probably 1290 00:58:01,478 --> 00:58:03,001 the best place to excavate. 1291 00:58:03,044 --> 00:58:04,219 - Anomaly here, here, and here, 1292 00:58:04,263 --> 00:58:05,525 at the depths that the satellite said. 1293 00:58:05,569 --> 00:58:08,006 We've got two for two confirmations, so far. 1294 00:58:08,049 --> 00:58:10,878 Let's go ahead and drill for the first one, 1295 00:58:10,922 --> 00:58:12,663 the closest one to the surface. 1296 00:58:12,706 --> 00:58:13,881 So, we get the drill out, 1297 00:58:13,925 --> 00:58:15,492 and we start going down, 1298 00:58:15,535 --> 00:58:17,450 and right at the 32 foot mark, we -- 1299 00:58:18,712 --> 00:58:19,626 I'm on one side of the drill, we felt it, 1300 00:58:19,670 --> 00:58:20,888 and we hit something hard. 1301 00:58:20,932 --> 00:58:23,543 - And then, John Bryant came down, and said, 1302 00:58:23,587 --> 00:58:25,023 "Okay, hold. 1303 00:58:25,066 --> 00:58:26,503 "We think we're at it. 1304 00:58:26,546 --> 00:58:28,330 "All you gotta do is take a dig team up there, 1305 00:58:28,374 --> 00:58:30,768 "and put the tent over the drill bit, 1306 00:58:30,811 --> 00:58:32,987 "and you guys will work your way down to it. 1307 00:58:33,031 --> 00:58:34,467 "You'll find it 34 meters down." 1308 00:58:34,511 --> 00:58:35,686 - We got a team of Kurds cutting, 1309 00:58:35,729 --> 00:58:37,165 we got a team of Americans cutting. 1310 00:58:37,209 --> 00:58:39,124 We're switching because communication is important 1311 00:58:39,167 --> 00:58:40,560 with chainsaws in small spaces. 1312 00:58:40,604 --> 00:58:43,563 - So, for ten days, we chopped away at this. 1313 00:58:43,607 --> 00:58:46,958 Taking this thing apart, one core drill bit at a time, 1314 00:58:47,001 --> 00:58:48,568 which is very to meter long. 1315 00:58:48,612 --> 00:58:50,570 - So the hole is growing, 1316 00:58:50,614 --> 00:58:52,224 because we were going one meter a day, 1317 00:58:52,267 --> 00:58:54,400 which is the length of each auger bit. 1318 00:58:54,443 --> 00:58:56,445 So, taking off a meter is like our victory trophy. 1319 00:58:56,489 --> 00:58:57,577 We have achieved our goal. 1320 00:58:57,621 --> 00:58:59,100 - Randall Price was with us, 1321 00:58:59,144 --> 00:59:01,276 and we were doing core samples out of this 1322 00:59:01,320 --> 00:59:03,235 eight foot by eight foot hole. 1323 00:59:03,278 --> 00:59:05,716 - With every meter, we got more and more excited. 1324 00:59:05,759 --> 00:59:07,369 - Hopes were just really high. 1325 00:59:07,413 --> 00:59:09,241 We knew all we have to do was get down to this object. 1326 00:59:09,284 --> 00:59:10,721 - We knew we were on the brink of, 1327 00:59:10,764 --> 00:59:14,681 what could be, the greatest archaeology discovery so far, 1328 00:59:14,725 --> 00:59:16,161 or of all time, for that matter. 1329 00:59:16,204 --> 00:59:18,293 - So, we decided, since the sun was going down, 1330 00:59:18,337 --> 00:59:19,556 let's wait 'til tomorrow, 1331 00:59:19,599 --> 00:59:20,774 it'll be better for the cameras. 1332 00:59:20,818 --> 00:59:22,776 Let's just make this big reveal tomorrow. 1333 00:59:22,820 --> 00:59:24,256 I remember going to bed that night, 1334 00:59:24,299 --> 00:59:27,215 and just laying in the tent, and just thinking 1335 00:59:27,259 --> 00:59:29,609 how this is gonna change my life, 1336 00:59:29,653 --> 00:59:33,744 and change, really, so many things. 1337 00:59:33,787 --> 00:59:36,398 - And, the night before, thinking, "This is gonna be great!" 1338 00:59:36,442 --> 00:59:37,617 - The next morning, we got up. 1339 00:59:37,661 --> 00:59:39,097 We all went over to the meal tent, 1340 00:59:39,140 --> 00:59:40,098 just pumped up, 1341 00:59:40,141 --> 00:59:42,187 patting each other on the back. 1342 00:59:42,230 --> 00:59:43,884 Talking abut this great moment 1343 00:59:43,928 --> 00:59:45,538 that we were gonna be a part of. 1344 00:59:45,582 --> 00:59:46,844 So, I got down into the hole and, 1345 00:59:46,887 --> 00:59:49,629 cut away the last meter. 1346 00:59:49,673 --> 00:59:53,372 And, just as we were working that last block out -- 1347 00:59:53,415 --> 00:59:54,939 - The last auger, with the bit on the end, 1348 00:59:54,982 --> 00:59:55,853 fell over. 1349 00:59:55,896 --> 00:59:58,769 - Just fell over, on the ice. 1350 00:59:58,812 --> 01:00:00,640 - But, it's supposed to be stuck into something, right? 1351 01:00:00,684 --> 01:00:03,251 I was on the drill, I remember feeling it. 1352 01:00:03,295 --> 01:00:04,818 We all looked at each other, like "Nothing happened". 1353 01:00:04,862 --> 01:00:05,732 Oh! 1354 01:00:07,168 --> 01:00:08,648 What now? 1355 01:00:08,692 --> 01:00:10,171 - I remember picking it up, and looking inside it, 1356 01:00:10,215 --> 01:00:13,087 and it was chock full of ice. 1357 01:00:13,131 --> 01:00:17,048 And, just, disappointment, just, all over me. 1358 01:00:17,091 --> 01:00:19,616 I wanted just to set it back down in the hole again. 1359 01:00:19,659 --> 01:00:22,314 I didn't wanna be a part of this bad moment, 1360 01:00:22,357 --> 01:00:24,359 where, of course, everybody's wondering 1361 01:00:24,403 --> 01:00:25,970 what is going on. 1362 01:00:27,754 --> 01:00:29,147 We didn't really say much, 1363 01:00:29,190 --> 01:00:30,278 we just set it over to the side, and we thought, 1364 01:00:30,322 --> 01:00:32,498 well maybe we were off, obviously, 1365 01:00:32,541 --> 01:00:34,718 that's not stuck in the object but, 1366 01:00:34,761 --> 01:00:37,111 ground penetrating radar seems to think it's this far deep, 1367 01:00:37,155 --> 01:00:38,722 so maybe we're just off a couple feet, 1368 01:00:38,765 --> 01:00:41,028 so we dug another couple layers out. 1369 01:00:41,072 --> 01:00:43,596 - We dug down past it, and there was nothing there. 1370 01:00:43,640 --> 01:00:46,207 - Then we had them drop the drill bits down into the hole. 1371 01:00:46,251 --> 01:00:48,601 We began to just punch holes 1372 01:00:48,645 --> 01:00:50,124 all around the bottom, 1373 01:00:50,168 --> 01:00:52,344 just thinking, "Maybe we'll pull up something." 1374 01:00:52,387 --> 01:00:53,911 - I remember drilling five meters -- 1375 01:00:55,042 --> 01:00:56,609 Three meters? 1376 01:00:56,653 --> 01:00:58,611 I know there were meters in every possible direction. 1377 01:00:58,655 --> 01:01:00,569 - Nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing. 1378 01:01:00,613 --> 01:01:02,963 - Everybody's heart just plummeted. 1379 01:01:03,007 --> 01:01:04,704 We went from the night before, 1380 01:01:04,748 --> 01:01:06,532 giving testimonies on how we really felt the Lord 1381 01:01:06,575 --> 01:01:07,707 directing us all here, 1382 01:01:07,751 --> 01:01:08,839 and how everything had gone so well, 1383 01:01:08,882 --> 01:01:10,536 and this was the biggest expedition to date. 1384 01:01:10,579 --> 01:01:13,060 And we had all the right people, and the right equipment. 1385 01:01:13,104 --> 01:01:14,496 It had gone so well. 1386 01:01:14,540 --> 01:01:17,674 - From being, what I thought, just hours before, 1387 01:01:17,717 --> 01:01:21,678 was gonna be just a big highlight of my life, 1388 01:01:21,721 --> 01:01:23,027 to this huge disappointment. 1389 01:01:23,070 --> 01:01:24,593 In this case, three years prior 1390 01:01:24,637 --> 01:01:26,595 of freezing cold temperatures, 1391 01:01:26,639 --> 01:01:29,163 unbelievable weather, devastation, 1392 01:01:29,207 --> 01:01:30,730 people being hurt. 1393 01:01:30,774 --> 01:01:32,514 And, you're so ready, 1394 01:01:32,558 --> 01:01:34,995 and it just, it wasn't there. 1395 01:01:35,039 --> 01:01:36,127 - We got full grown men crying. 1396 01:01:36,170 --> 01:01:37,432 They've staked a lot, 1397 01:01:37,476 --> 01:01:41,001 emotionally, in their fields of study. 1398 01:01:41,045 --> 01:01:42,046 - I climbed out of the hole, 1399 01:01:42,089 --> 01:01:43,700 I grabbed my pack, 1400 01:01:43,743 --> 01:01:45,266 and I just walked down the mountain that day. 1401 01:01:45,310 --> 01:01:47,573 - Had it been there, we would have found it, 1402 01:01:47,616 --> 01:01:48,617 but it wasn't. 1403 01:01:48,661 --> 01:01:49,967 And that led to an emotional -- 1404 01:01:50,837 --> 01:01:52,665 and down they went. 1405 01:01:52,709 --> 01:01:54,885 And, after we cleaned things up, down we went. 1406 01:01:54,928 --> 01:01:56,538 - We're not done yet. 1407 01:01:56,582 --> 01:01:58,105 We're just taking a bit of a break. 1408 01:02:06,897 --> 01:02:08,072 - I'm excited. 1409 01:02:08,115 --> 01:02:10,727 This new, special ground penetrating radar, 1410 01:02:10,770 --> 01:02:14,382 that is supposed to be specific for ice. 1411 01:02:14,426 --> 01:02:15,732 - We're gonna put all the lessons we've learned, 1412 01:02:15,775 --> 01:02:17,168 from these five years, 1413 01:02:17,211 --> 01:02:19,431 be more prepared, better technology. 1414 01:02:19,474 --> 01:02:21,694 We have, basically, secret GPS coordinates, 1415 01:02:21,738 --> 01:02:22,695 - Just downloaded the GPS data, 1416 01:02:22,739 --> 01:02:23,957 that's a good sign. 1417 01:02:24,001 --> 01:02:25,829 - We're gonna finally hit, what we have missed 1418 01:02:25,872 --> 01:02:26,830 in previous years. 1419 01:02:26,873 --> 01:02:28,048 - This excites me. 1420 01:02:28,092 --> 01:02:30,311 We've built special drills, this year. 1421 01:02:30,355 --> 01:02:33,097 And special corers to be able to pull this stuff out. 1422 01:02:35,490 --> 01:02:36,535 I know how to drill. 1423 01:02:36,578 --> 01:02:38,015 My people know how to drill. 1424 01:02:38,058 --> 01:02:39,799 I want to find organic matter. 1425 01:02:39,843 --> 01:02:41,583 - Every year that I go up to the Eastern Plateau, 1426 01:02:41,627 --> 01:02:44,673 I walk down Shok-mok Peak, and look down at the Ahora Gorge, 1427 01:02:44,717 --> 01:02:46,458 and think, "This is where you need to go". 1428 01:02:46,501 --> 01:02:49,113 You never feel like you've finished the ark search, 1429 01:02:49,156 --> 01:02:51,245 if you don't get down into the Ahora Gorge. 1430 01:02:51,289 --> 01:02:52,464 We've never had the kind of permissions 1431 01:02:52,507 --> 01:02:53,944 that we've had, to get this close. 1432 01:02:53,987 --> 01:02:56,642 - This year we will either prove, 1433 01:02:56,685 --> 01:03:00,951 the "Yes, it is here", or "No, it is not". 1434 01:03:02,387 --> 01:03:03,780 - Good morning from high camp. 1435 01:03:03,823 --> 01:03:05,564 It's about 5:45 in the morning. 1436 01:03:05,607 --> 01:03:06,652 On our first full day, here. 1437 01:03:06,695 --> 01:03:09,046 We slept pretty well, last night. 1438 01:03:09,089 --> 01:03:10,743 We were able to put in a well, 1439 01:03:10,787 --> 01:03:14,138 and get the chainsaw, generator, 1440 01:03:14,181 --> 01:03:16,401 and several other things started yesterday. 1441 01:03:16,444 --> 01:03:18,533 This morning, we're gonna try and set up the big gear tent. 1442 01:03:18,577 --> 01:03:20,622 The wind is 1443 01:03:20,666 --> 01:03:22,450 not at all, which is quite unusual, 1444 01:03:22,494 --> 01:03:23,843 so we want to take advantage of that, 1445 01:03:23,887 --> 01:03:26,367 just to get somewhere to have the equipment, 1446 01:03:26,411 --> 01:03:27,542 and a kitchen, and get out of the wind, 1447 01:03:27,586 --> 01:03:29,370 when it starts back up again. 1448 01:03:29,414 --> 01:03:30,894 Looks like it's gonna be a beautiful morning. 1449 01:03:30,937 --> 01:03:32,069 See you out there. 1450 01:03:33,592 --> 01:03:34,636 Right here? 1451 01:03:34,680 --> 01:03:36,203 I think that sounds good. 1452 01:03:47,388 --> 01:03:51,610 - We've organized most of the expedition's equipment, 1453 01:03:51,653 --> 01:03:53,438 and, this afternoon, after lunch, 1454 01:03:53,481 --> 01:03:54,569 which we're about to head up to, 1455 01:03:54,613 --> 01:03:55,832 we hope to start drilling. 1456 01:03:55,875 --> 01:03:57,398 Here we go. 1457 01:03:57,921 --> 01:03:59,792 - We won't be doing that for about an hour. 1458 01:03:59,836 --> 01:04:01,663 Let's see, it's now 12:10. 1459 01:04:04,318 --> 01:04:05,885 - This will be the real practical part of the dissertation. 1460 01:04:05,929 --> 01:04:07,452 - Yep. 1461 01:04:07,495 --> 01:04:09,758 Let's see, it's now 12:10, 1462 01:04:09,802 --> 01:04:10,977 probably about 1:00 sir. 1463 01:04:11,021 --> 01:04:12,413 The would be the time to get ready. 1464 01:04:12,457 --> 01:04:13,893 - A lot of people were on the mountain 1465 01:04:13,937 --> 01:04:14,981 for different reasons, 1466 01:04:15,025 --> 01:04:16,635 my reason to be on the mountain, 1467 01:04:16,678 --> 01:04:19,072 was I wanted my portion of it to be 1468 01:04:19,116 --> 01:04:21,814 as scientifically accurate as possible, 1469 01:04:21,858 --> 01:04:23,729 so that when the scientific community 1470 01:04:23,772 --> 01:04:25,426 looked at our expedition, 1471 01:04:25,470 --> 01:04:28,516 they could say this was done according to 1472 01:04:28,560 --> 01:04:30,736 good science, and not junk science. 1473 01:04:30,779 --> 01:04:33,260 Drill and hit wood. 1474 01:04:33,304 --> 01:04:35,523 That's what we're gonna do today. 1475 01:04:35,567 --> 01:04:37,743 Speak it into existence, that's what I always say. 1476 01:04:37,786 --> 01:04:38,744 - Okay. 1477 01:04:40,833 --> 01:04:43,575 - If the ark is truly intact, 1478 01:04:43,618 --> 01:04:46,012 it'll be approximately 45 foot high. 1479 01:04:46,056 --> 01:04:48,710 - "The ark is to be 30 cubits high, 1480 01:04:48,754 --> 01:04:52,236 "300 cubits long, and 50 cubits wide." 1481 01:04:52,279 --> 01:04:53,759 - What is a cubit? 1482 01:04:53,802 --> 01:04:56,544 A cubit, historically, has been recognized, 1483 01:04:56,588 --> 01:04:58,938 generally, as the length from the elbow, 1484 01:04:58,982 --> 01:05:02,724 to the end of the index finger of the reigning monarch. 1485 01:05:02,768 --> 01:05:04,683 We've averaged the historical values, 1486 01:05:04,726 --> 01:05:08,600 and come up with 20.5 inches for a cubit. 1487 01:05:08,643 --> 01:05:10,863 Which means that the original ark 1488 01:05:10,907 --> 01:05:12,691 was 500 feet long, 1489 01:05:12,734 --> 01:05:16,477 86 feet wide, 52 feet high. 1490 01:05:18,131 --> 01:05:19,698 God said to Noah, 1491 01:05:19,741 --> 01:05:22,092 "Rooms are to be placed in the ark". 1492 01:05:22,135 --> 01:05:23,658 There would be three levels. 1493 01:05:23,702 --> 01:05:26,357 Bulkheads were a vital part of the structure, 1494 01:05:26,400 --> 01:05:28,359 these room dividers, 1495 01:05:28,402 --> 01:05:32,232 which encompass the dimension and the hull, 1496 01:05:32,276 --> 01:05:34,365 and some of the floor levels. 1497 01:05:34,408 --> 01:05:37,150 And that gives it a superior structure. 1498 01:05:37,194 --> 01:05:39,413 - "And build under our eyes, 1499 01:05:39,457 --> 01:05:41,589 "and according to our inspiration, 1500 01:05:41,633 --> 01:05:44,941 "the ark that shall save thee, and those who follow thee. 1501 01:05:44,984 --> 01:05:47,117 "And do not appeal to me on behalf of those 1502 01:05:47,160 --> 01:05:48,901 "who are bent on evil doing. 1503 01:05:48,945 --> 01:05:52,209 "For, behold, they are destined to be drowned." 1504 01:06:06,875 --> 01:06:09,400 - The guys are gonna start drilling, Bill, Will, to Bruce. 1505 01:06:09,443 --> 01:06:13,012 And, Jose and I are gonna start completing this grade, 1506 01:06:13,056 --> 01:06:14,927 and make sure this is all in alignment. 1507 01:06:14,971 --> 01:06:17,060 We're just gonna hit all though this area, 1508 01:06:17,103 --> 01:06:19,714 and see what we can come up with today. 1509 01:06:19,758 --> 01:06:21,325 But, we got a good work day today, 1510 01:06:21,368 --> 01:06:23,675 we're gonna take advantage of it. 1511 01:06:23,718 --> 01:06:26,025 - Howdy friends from the U.S.A. 1512 01:06:26,069 --> 01:06:29,115 We've come to drill with Bill and Will. 1513 01:06:29,159 --> 01:06:29,768 Woohoo! 1514 01:06:43,869 --> 01:06:45,566 - Got it. - Lock it. 1515 01:07:11,462 --> 01:07:13,246 - The first thing you gonna hit on Noah's Ark 1516 01:07:13,290 --> 01:07:14,813 is not gonna be wood. 1517 01:07:16,728 --> 01:07:18,860 It's gonna bituminous materials. 1518 01:07:21,124 --> 01:07:23,561 Bituminous, meaning something black and gooey. 1519 01:07:24,736 --> 01:07:26,520 An oil based product. 1520 01:07:27,652 --> 01:07:29,088 The Bible's clear, 1521 01:07:29,132 --> 01:07:32,657 inside and out of Noah's Ark was covered in pitch. 1522 01:07:37,749 --> 01:07:38,750 So, it'd probably gonna be something 1523 01:07:38,793 --> 01:07:40,621 that's ingrained in the wood, 1524 01:07:40,665 --> 01:07:43,450 and so if you hit it, 1525 01:07:43,494 --> 01:07:45,278 it should show you some. 1526 01:07:57,595 --> 01:07:58,726 What I had decided to do, 1527 01:07:58,770 --> 01:08:00,989 is everything that came out of the hole, 1528 01:08:01,033 --> 01:08:04,123 I was gonna put it in a pan, heat it up, 1529 01:08:04,167 --> 01:08:06,082 and see if any of it melted. 1530 01:08:15,003 --> 01:08:17,005 All bituminous materials 1531 01:08:17,049 --> 01:08:18,572 are temperature susceptible, 1532 01:08:18,616 --> 01:08:21,445 meaning, at a very low range, they'll melt, 1533 01:08:21,488 --> 01:08:23,664 or they'll become gooey. 1534 01:08:23,708 --> 01:08:25,449 Well, the foil is melting. 1535 01:08:27,103 --> 01:08:28,800 Looks like all rocks. 1536 01:08:32,847 --> 01:08:34,066 We did a quick field test, 1537 01:08:34,110 --> 01:08:35,894 just to verify, to make sure that we weren't 1538 01:08:35,937 --> 01:08:37,678 looking at something than just bedrock. 1539 01:08:37,722 --> 01:08:38,940 - So, it's just gravel. 1540 01:08:38,984 --> 01:08:41,117 - This was verification that 1541 01:08:41,160 --> 01:08:43,119 where we were last year, is, in fact, 1542 01:08:43,162 --> 01:08:44,294 not where we wanna be. 1543 01:08:44,337 --> 01:08:45,773 - Now, we're moving on th the next spot. 1544 01:08:45,817 --> 01:08:48,733 And, we'll keep doing that, until time runs out, 1545 01:08:48,776 --> 01:08:50,735 and Lord willing, we'll find it 1546 01:08:50,778 --> 01:08:52,389 before our time runs out. 1547 01:09:05,271 --> 01:09:07,621 - Today is August 14, 1548 01:09:07,665 --> 01:09:10,755 and hopefully it's a day that will be remembered in history 1549 01:09:10,798 --> 01:09:13,714 as a great day to commemorate 1550 01:09:13,758 --> 01:09:16,543 what was done, thousands and thousands of years ago. 1551 01:09:16,587 --> 01:09:18,284 That God flooded the earth, 1552 01:09:18,328 --> 01:09:20,721 preserved eight people, 1553 01:09:20,765 --> 01:09:23,855 so that the earth could be repopulated. 1554 01:09:23,898 --> 01:09:27,337 I hope and pray that today is the day. 1555 01:09:27,380 --> 01:09:29,730 - Because, now time is of the essence, 1556 01:09:29,774 --> 01:09:31,863 we have to get this right. 1557 01:09:31,906 --> 01:09:34,387 We can't just be pock-marking around on this ice. 1558 01:09:34,431 --> 01:09:36,563 We need to know precisely where to go, 1559 01:09:36,607 --> 01:09:39,436 and we're gonna see if we can hit wood. 1560 01:09:39,479 --> 01:09:42,700 - This is the RB-1 hole. 1561 01:09:44,354 --> 01:09:46,530 Good news, we didn't get stuck. 1562 01:09:46,573 --> 01:09:49,272 So, another hole accomplished. 1563 01:09:50,273 --> 01:09:52,753 So far, negative results, we'll see, 1564 01:09:52,797 --> 01:09:54,538 collecting samples, labeling it, 1565 01:09:54,581 --> 01:09:56,757 and then we'll move on the the next hole. 1566 01:09:56,801 --> 01:09:58,106 - We drill, we drill. 1567 01:09:58,150 --> 01:09:59,760 It breaks my heart to see these guys -- 1568 01:10:00,631 --> 01:10:01,719 We get our hopes up, and we drill, 1569 01:10:01,762 --> 01:10:04,156 and then, to miss, every time. 1570 01:10:04,200 --> 01:10:06,114 Because I feel like I'm letting them down. 1571 01:10:06,158 --> 01:10:07,594 I tell them, "Drill here, we see something". 1572 01:10:07,638 --> 01:10:08,682 And, when we don't hit it, 1573 01:10:08,726 --> 01:10:11,032 they're going down 17 meters and 1574 01:10:11,076 --> 01:10:13,905 19 1/2 meters, and they're not hitting anything. 1575 01:10:19,258 --> 01:10:20,433 We keep seeing anomalies, 1576 01:10:20,477 --> 01:10:22,261 but for some reason, every time we drill, 1577 01:10:22,305 --> 01:10:23,915 we don't hit anything. 1578 01:10:25,003 --> 01:10:27,875 With all the ice, we get a lot of false readings. 1579 01:10:33,446 --> 01:10:35,405 It's like I'm making them do all that extra work, 1580 01:10:35,448 --> 01:10:38,321 and I do feel like all that weight is on my shoulders. 1581 01:10:41,498 --> 01:10:42,977 I know, deep down in my heart, 1582 01:10:43,021 --> 01:10:44,849 the ark is laying up here somewhere. 1583 01:10:56,948 --> 01:10:58,210 - One thing I've learned, 1584 01:10:58,254 --> 01:10:59,429 the weather can change very quickly here, 1585 01:10:59,472 --> 01:11:01,518 from sunny to freezing rain. 1586 01:11:02,736 --> 01:11:05,609 Socked in by fog and clouds. 1587 01:11:42,646 --> 01:11:44,822 - Our energy is pretty low. 1588 01:11:44,865 --> 01:11:46,563 We've been up here a long time. 1589 01:11:56,790 --> 01:11:58,575 - We were able to get three more holes in today. 1590 01:11:58,618 --> 01:12:00,968 They were between 13 and 14 meters. 1591 01:12:01,012 --> 01:12:03,797 Unfortunately, we didn't come up with anything exciting. 1592 01:12:03,841 --> 01:12:06,191 - That's a big disappointment, but I understand. 1593 01:12:06,234 --> 01:12:07,888 Just proceed with the drilling, 1594 01:12:07,932 --> 01:12:11,414 and extending it per Dr. Bryant. 1595 01:12:13,677 --> 01:12:15,722 That's about all that can be done, right now. 1596 01:12:15,766 --> 01:12:16,854 - Will do. 1597 01:12:16,897 --> 01:12:18,029 - We appreciate it. 1598 01:12:18,072 --> 01:12:19,596 - Alright, thank you. 1599 01:12:19,639 --> 01:12:20,771 Bye. 1600 01:12:26,777 --> 01:12:30,041 - Today we've drilled three bores, 1601 01:12:30,084 --> 01:12:33,697 and in those three, we went all the way to bedrock. 1602 01:12:33,740 --> 01:12:35,612 The drilling went great, 1603 01:12:35,655 --> 01:12:38,832 but, unfortunately, we didn't have positive results, 1604 01:12:38,876 --> 01:12:40,530 what we're looking for. 1605 01:12:41,792 --> 01:12:44,011 - The air is much thinner. 1606 01:12:44,055 --> 01:12:45,230 Breathing is hard. 1607 01:12:47,754 --> 01:12:49,539 That takes its toll. 1608 01:12:59,244 --> 01:13:01,072 - I do have a hard time breathing. 1609 01:13:03,422 --> 01:13:06,077 Working conditions yesterday was, 1610 01:13:06,120 --> 01:13:07,644 miserable for me. 1611 01:13:19,917 --> 01:13:21,919 I'm still not acclimated up here. 1612 01:13:27,751 --> 01:13:29,579 - We're able to get the three holes in today, 1613 01:13:29,622 --> 01:13:30,841 and then a storm came in, 1614 01:13:30,884 --> 01:13:32,625 we just got pounded with about 1615 01:13:32,669 --> 01:13:36,977 six inches of 1/4 to 1/2 inch hail, snow, 1616 01:13:37,021 --> 01:13:37,848 with lightening. 1617 01:13:40,241 --> 01:13:42,592 - We put a lot of effort into working earlier in the day, 1618 01:13:42,635 --> 01:13:45,246 so we got our three holes drilled, 1619 01:13:45,290 --> 01:13:46,465 which was our goal. 1620 01:13:46,509 --> 01:13:48,424 - Yeah, we'll see what happens. 1621 01:13:48,467 --> 01:13:50,643 Probably some cards tonight. 1622 01:13:50,687 --> 01:13:51,818 - Probably so. 1623 01:14:27,463 --> 01:14:29,682 - I'm real excited that Dr. Bryant's here. 1624 01:14:29,726 --> 01:14:31,031 he already got here before we did. 1625 01:14:31,075 --> 01:14:32,555 - How you doing? 1626 01:14:32,598 --> 01:14:33,860 Good to see you, Adam. 1627 01:14:33,904 --> 01:14:34,557 - Adam. 1628 01:14:34,600 --> 01:14:35,732 - How you doing man? 1629 01:14:35,775 --> 01:14:36,297 - Come here to eat breakfast. 1630 01:14:36,341 --> 01:14:38,343 - Alright. 1631 01:14:38,386 --> 01:14:39,692 - Hey Bryant. 1632 01:14:39,736 --> 01:14:41,172 Good to see you. 1633 01:14:53,619 --> 01:14:54,968 - Can I get this pack for you? 1634 01:14:55,012 --> 01:14:55,839 - How you doing? 1635 01:14:55,882 --> 01:14:57,405 I couldn't wait to get here. 1636 01:15:00,626 --> 01:15:03,586 - Having other people around boosts the morale. 1637 01:15:03,629 --> 01:15:04,761 I like that. 1638 01:15:22,866 --> 01:15:25,477 - The perspective of where you are, here, is unbelievable. 1639 01:15:27,871 --> 01:15:30,961 - I could show you the 3-D data. 1640 01:15:32,179 --> 01:15:33,180 There it is. 1641 01:15:33,790 --> 01:15:35,313 - Okay. 1642 01:15:37,097 --> 01:15:37,924 - A lot of noisy data, 1643 01:15:37,968 --> 01:15:39,883 but it seems to ... 1644 01:15:42,276 --> 01:15:44,452 - This is a very interesting shape. 1645 01:15:46,237 --> 01:15:48,544 - So what's the possibility that that could be wood? 1646 01:15:48,587 --> 01:15:50,807 - Well, based upon the knowledge that we have 1647 01:15:50,850 --> 01:15:53,549 of what was here, an ancient ship, 1648 01:15:53,592 --> 01:15:57,901 and knowing that trees don't grow at 17,000 feet, 1649 01:15:57,944 --> 01:15:59,729 nor even at above 11,000, 1650 01:15:59,772 --> 01:16:02,732 the tree line's usually 11,000 feet, 1651 01:16:02,775 --> 01:16:06,562 would dictate, and say to me, that was a boat. 1652 01:16:06,605 --> 01:16:08,868 But, it doesn't say boat on the GPS, 1653 01:16:08,912 --> 01:16:12,132 it says reflection of a pattern of interesting material. 1654 01:16:12,176 --> 01:16:13,133 That's why we're gonna go drill it. 1655 01:16:13,177 --> 01:16:14,613 - And I see those layers. 1656 01:16:14,657 --> 01:16:15,571 - Yeah. 1657 01:16:16,659 --> 01:16:18,530 - Ice lays down flat. 1658 01:16:18,574 --> 01:16:20,053 And, as it lays down flat, 1659 01:16:20,097 --> 01:16:22,534 it will take the contour of the ground. 1660 01:16:22,578 --> 01:16:25,668 But, anything that's oblique, or got an angle to it, 1661 01:16:25,711 --> 01:16:28,496 from my experience, can't be ice. 1662 01:16:40,987 --> 01:16:43,903 - So, Bruce was examining this piece 1663 01:16:43,947 --> 01:16:46,123 that came out of the boring, RB-7. 1664 01:16:46,166 --> 01:16:48,647 And, what he has found, 1665 01:16:48,691 --> 01:16:52,564 he was using his fire sample test, 1666 01:16:52,608 --> 01:16:54,000 the ASTM test, 1667 01:16:54,044 --> 01:16:55,959 and, go ahead and tell them what you found, Bruce. 1668 01:16:56,002 --> 01:16:57,700 - Well, I was heating everything up, 1669 01:16:57,743 --> 01:17:00,528 and I noticed that this thing was starting to melt, 1670 01:17:00,572 --> 01:17:03,140 which indicates a bituminous material, 1671 01:17:03,183 --> 01:17:05,795 or an asphalt or petroleum based material. 1672 01:17:05,838 --> 01:17:09,450 So, with discretion, I said, "Whoa, wait a minute." 1673 01:17:09,494 --> 01:17:11,714 This could be something that we could get to a real lab, 1674 01:17:11,757 --> 01:17:13,629 and get some real data on. 1675 01:17:13,672 --> 01:17:14,891 - What I see, as well, 1676 01:17:14,934 --> 01:17:16,762 is there's some fibrous edges along the side, 1677 01:17:16,806 --> 01:17:21,201 which means that, to me, it's not a mineral material. 1678 01:17:21,245 --> 01:17:22,899 - Like you're looking at a piece of 1679 01:17:22,942 --> 01:17:24,727 asphalt felt paper. 1680 01:17:26,293 --> 01:17:29,557 - They did hit something, at about 50 feet. 1681 01:17:29,601 --> 01:17:30,733 - Send it to a laboratory. 1682 01:17:30,776 --> 01:17:31,995 They'll be able to break it down, 1683 01:17:32,038 --> 01:17:34,127 and tell us what kind of material it is. 1684 01:17:34,171 --> 01:17:34,780 - Okay. 1685 01:17:34,824 --> 01:17:36,739 Thank you. 1686 01:17:36,782 --> 01:17:39,785 - It'll be quite rare for an organic material 1687 01:17:39,829 --> 01:17:42,396 to be this high up on this mountain. 1688 01:18:55,208 --> 01:18:56,079 - Strange. 1689 01:18:56,122 --> 01:18:57,820 It almost looks like a crystal. 1690 01:18:57,863 --> 01:18:59,299 - When you're looking at in a microscope, 1691 01:18:59,343 --> 01:19:02,520 and here's this vitreous, refractive material 1692 01:19:02,563 --> 01:19:03,782 that's not a rock. 1693 01:19:03,826 --> 01:19:06,785 It looks like a piece of amber, almost. 1694 01:19:10,441 --> 01:19:12,791 It's not wood fiber, 1695 01:19:13,792 --> 01:19:16,664 but it would fit resin, perfectly. 1696 01:19:16,708 --> 01:19:19,755 It's something translucent, 1697 01:19:20,756 --> 01:19:22,540 almost crystalline, 1698 01:19:22,583 --> 01:19:25,761 exactly what I thought pitch was. 1699 01:19:25,804 --> 01:19:29,286 If I had imagined something exciting, 1700 01:19:29,329 --> 01:19:30,591 it would be hard to do it better. 1701 01:19:30,635 --> 01:19:32,550 It's very encouraging. 1702 01:19:32,593 --> 01:19:35,292 We need more, and I'm ready. 1703 01:19:35,335 --> 01:19:36,641 I want the big piece. 1704 01:19:39,862 --> 01:19:40,776 - It's very encouraging. 1705 01:19:40,819 --> 01:19:42,168 I'm excited about it, 1706 01:19:42,212 --> 01:19:43,735 but it's not enough. 1707 01:19:43,779 --> 01:19:44,954 We need to have more of this. 1708 01:19:44,997 --> 01:19:46,694 We need to find more samples. 1709 01:19:46,738 --> 01:19:50,437 We just have to keep pushing forward, and hope for the best. 1710 01:19:53,571 --> 01:19:55,268 - It's all over the mountain. 1711 01:19:55,312 --> 01:19:58,097 I don't believe you're going to find a gigantic ark, 1712 01:19:58,141 --> 01:19:59,664 you're going to find chunks of it. 1713 01:19:59,707 --> 01:20:02,232 Some will be in the Abba Glacier, 1714 01:20:02,275 --> 01:20:04,495 some may be in the Ahora Gorge. 1715 01:20:04,538 --> 01:20:06,976 - I've always been curios about the Ahora Gorge. 1716 01:20:07,019 --> 01:20:10,022 And the stories of, there's an object in the Ahora Gorge. 1717 01:20:10,066 --> 01:20:11,719 - Portions of the Ahora Gorge, itself, 1718 01:20:11,763 --> 01:20:13,547 are not accessible. 1719 01:20:13,591 --> 01:20:15,898 - The Ahora Gorge is just riddled with crevasses, 1720 01:20:15,941 --> 01:20:18,770 which are areas of the glacier that have collapsed away. 1721 01:20:18,814 --> 01:20:19,945 - The void, basically, 1722 01:20:19,989 --> 01:20:21,773 where the ice is sliding off the mountain. 1723 01:20:21,817 --> 01:20:24,558 - For a crevasse to form, you do have to have movement. 1724 01:20:25,385 --> 01:20:28,084 You are exceeding the strength of the ice, 1725 01:20:28,127 --> 01:20:30,347 and that could be exceeding that, 1726 01:20:30,390 --> 01:20:34,003 either in shear, or in tension, or in compression. 1727 01:20:34,046 --> 01:20:35,265 When we see crevasses, 1728 01:20:35,308 --> 01:20:37,963 it is evidence that some motion has occurred. 1729 01:20:40,313 --> 01:20:41,967 And it's occurred in a way 1730 01:20:42,011 --> 01:20:45,318 that imposed stresses that exceeded the strength. 1731 01:20:46,624 --> 01:20:47,755 - Always moving. 1732 01:20:47,799 --> 01:20:50,584 With some, hundreds of feet deep. 1733 01:20:50,628 --> 01:20:52,760 Entering the crevasses offer some of the team a unique, 1734 01:20:52,804 --> 01:20:56,025 but dangerous perspective to the bedrock below. 1735 01:21:07,210 --> 01:21:08,820 With time running out, 1736 01:21:08,864 --> 01:21:11,518 others prepare for an equally perilous descent 1737 01:21:11,562 --> 01:21:13,651 into the Ahora Gorge. 1738 01:21:13,694 --> 01:21:15,740 - It's a very dangerous place, 1739 01:21:15,783 --> 01:21:16,828 Ahora Gorge. 1740 01:21:21,833 --> 01:21:24,749 - Here we are at the western plateau. 1741 01:21:24,792 --> 01:21:26,707 We're about to go exploring, 1742 01:21:26,751 --> 01:21:29,145 and try to get in the gorge as far as we can. 1743 01:21:34,411 --> 01:21:36,717 We plan to go down, as best we can, 1744 01:21:36,761 --> 01:21:38,415 and route-find. 1745 01:21:39,895 --> 01:21:42,201 And then, up and out of the way of any rock fall, 1746 01:21:42,245 --> 01:21:44,987 or any danger, and still keep some stable snow. 1747 01:21:45,813 --> 01:21:46,858 Here we go. 1748 01:21:48,773 --> 01:21:49,687 Belay me! 1749 01:21:59,610 --> 01:22:01,655 Getting some crevasses here! 1750 01:22:02,743 --> 01:22:04,789 I think if we go left, it we'll be better. 1751 01:22:15,713 --> 01:22:18,063 - We're not going down any further, are we? 1752 01:22:18,107 --> 01:22:20,587 We went down what we did yesterday on the anomaly, 1753 01:22:20,631 --> 01:22:22,676 I hit something hard, 1754 01:22:22,720 --> 01:22:24,809 but it wasn't gravel, 1755 01:22:24,852 --> 01:22:26,593 and the bit got stuck. 1756 01:22:26,637 --> 01:22:28,204 - We're hitting something. 1757 01:22:28,247 --> 01:22:29,901 We're hitting resistance. 1758 01:22:29,945 --> 01:22:33,383 What we don't know, is what it is we're hitting. 1759 01:22:33,426 --> 01:22:36,995 The scans and satellite says there's something there. 1760 01:22:37,039 --> 01:22:39,650 And the people from that are saying there's something there. 1761 01:22:39,693 --> 01:22:42,174 And we say, we're drilling, we're hitting something hard. 1762 01:22:42,218 --> 01:22:45,482 - Is there wood, is it rock, what is it that we're hitting 1763 01:22:45,525 --> 01:22:46,396 when we drill? 1764 01:22:46,439 --> 01:22:47,397 Because we're hitting something, 1765 01:22:47,440 --> 01:22:48,659 but we don't know what it is. 1766 01:22:48,702 --> 01:22:50,661 - Until we get the core, we don't know. 1767 01:22:51,618 --> 01:22:53,620 But, we're not giving up yet. 1768 01:22:53,664 --> 01:22:56,145 We'll be able to identify with the diamond cores 1769 01:22:56,188 --> 01:22:58,016 that we've got coming from China. 1770 01:23:08,592 --> 01:23:09,985 - What we're trying to do is, 1771 01:23:10,028 --> 01:23:11,508 based on the information, 1772 01:23:11,551 --> 01:23:13,423 drill core, so that we can retrieve, 1773 01:23:14,511 --> 01:23:15,860 a far more substantial sample 1774 01:23:15,903 --> 01:23:18,341 with the drill coring tool that we have. 1775 01:23:18,384 --> 01:23:21,561 What we have here, is the drill. 1776 01:23:21,605 --> 01:23:23,172 This is it. 1777 01:23:23,215 --> 01:23:24,912 It's a coring bit, 1778 01:23:25,870 --> 01:23:28,046 diamond tipped, 1779 01:23:28,090 --> 01:23:29,221 goes on the auger, 1780 01:23:29,265 --> 01:23:31,223 hopefully we can get some samples. 1781 01:23:31,267 --> 01:23:33,486 There's a lip on each side. 1782 01:23:33,530 --> 01:23:35,184 And, as it goes down, 1783 01:23:35,227 --> 01:23:38,317 the material is pulled down, inside here, 'til it stops. 1784 01:23:38,361 --> 01:23:39,449 And, they pull it out, 1785 01:23:39,492 --> 01:23:40,624 and then they take this off, 1786 01:23:40,667 --> 01:23:42,060 and they pop it through the hollow part. 1787 01:23:42,104 --> 01:23:44,802 And they get a nice, kinda like this, 1788 01:23:44,845 --> 01:23:48,414 they get a nice core of whatever we're trying to core. 1789 01:23:48,458 --> 01:23:49,459 - Let's go! 1790 01:23:49,502 --> 01:23:50,764 Let's go find an ark. 1791 01:23:50,808 --> 01:23:52,505 - We need him up there. 1792 01:23:56,292 --> 01:23:58,076 - As the days get shorter, 1793 01:23:58,120 --> 01:24:01,253 the climbing window on Ararat begins to close. 1794 01:24:02,341 --> 01:24:04,300 The permit from the Turkish government 1795 01:24:04,343 --> 01:24:06,737 is for a clearly defined time, 1796 01:24:06,780 --> 01:24:09,870 to protect lives from the unexpected, 1797 01:24:09,914 --> 01:24:12,612 that comes with the change of seasons. 1798 01:24:14,527 --> 01:24:15,963 Finishing up the uh.. 1799 01:24:16,703 --> 01:24:18,749 - Finishing up our time, up here. 1800 01:24:22,448 --> 01:24:24,059 - Yeah, we're supposed to have another three days 1801 01:24:24,102 --> 01:24:25,582 before this starts up. 1802 01:24:27,323 --> 01:24:29,194 We'll see about that. 1803 01:24:29,238 --> 01:24:32,632 Hopefully the guys who are trying to head up to help us, 1804 01:24:32,676 --> 01:24:35,026 are doing okay at 4200. 1805 01:24:44,557 --> 01:24:45,950 - It's Wednesday the 28th. 1806 01:24:45,993 --> 01:24:48,822 Getting ready to start a new day of drilling. 1807 01:24:48,866 --> 01:24:51,651 First thing off, is we're gonna get the generator going. 1808 01:24:51,695 --> 01:24:53,740 Get our stuff charging. 1809 01:24:53,784 --> 01:24:57,788 We had quite a snow yesterday evening. 1810 01:24:58,702 --> 01:25:00,791 We've got good weather. 1811 01:25:00,834 --> 01:25:03,359 And, hopefully, it should go well. 1812 01:25:03,402 --> 01:25:04,969 - We've been sent up a reinforcement 1813 01:25:05,012 --> 01:25:06,623 with a fancy drill bit, 1814 01:25:06,666 --> 01:25:08,146 out of China, or somewhere. 1815 01:25:08,190 --> 01:25:09,147 We're hoping to get down. 1816 01:25:09,191 --> 01:25:11,584 We've re-dug RB-7, 1817 01:25:12,237 --> 01:25:13,673 which is where we pulled the flake out 1818 01:25:13,717 --> 01:25:15,588 of whatever that was. 1819 01:25:15,632 --> 01:25:17,547 They've asked us to penetrate through 1820 01:25:17,590 --> 01:25:21,159 the fluvial flow or rock, or whatever it is on top, 1821 01:25:21,203 --> 01:25:22,682 try and get a better sample. 1822 01:25:22,726 --> 01:25:24,467 We will lower down into place, 1823 01:25:24,510 --> 01:25:25,555 hook up the motor, 1824 01:25:25,598 --> 01:25:28,079 grind on it a little bit, 1825 01:25:28,123 --> 01:25:30,037 and get something done. 1826 01:25:37,784 --> 01:25:39,134 - We did running belays, 1827 01:25:39,177 --> 01:25:41,005 trying to find a good vantage point into the gorge. 1828 01:25:41,048 --> 01:25:42,963 Finally we did. 1829 01:25:43,007 --> 01:25:44,530 After five years, 1830 01:25:44,574 --> 01:25:48,621 I'm finally standing on the western edge of Ahora Gorge, 1831 01:25:48,665 --> 01:25:49,970 here on Mount Ararat. 1832 01:25:52,538 --> 01:25:54,758 Let me give you a shot of what that looks like. 1833 01:25:58,544 --> 01:26:01,547 As you can see, it's full of crevasses. 1834 01:26:01,591 --> 01:26:04,724 It's a fast moving glacier. 1835 01:26:04,768 --> 01:26:08,815 This is really crazy crevasse 1836 01:26:10,121 --> 01:26:12,036 in the center of this gorge. 1837 01:26:12,079 --> 01:26:13,777 And, if the ark had come to rest 1838 01:26:13,820 --> 01:26:16,040 anywhere near the lip of the Ahora Gorge, 1839 01:26:16,083 --> 01:26:17,781 It would be chewed up 1840 01:26:25,745 --> 01:26:29,662 You stare right into those huge crevasses, 1841 01:26:29,706 --> 01:26:32,622 and you say, "There's just no way". 1842 01:26:32,665 --> 01:26:34,363 If it is anywhere in the gorge, 1843 01:26:34,406 --> 01:26:35,799 it's got to be lower down. 1844 01:26:40,238 --> 01:26:41,587 - My primary goal, at the summit, 1845 01:26:41,631 --> 01:26:43,372 was to get two drill cores. 1846 01:26:43,415 --> 01:26:47,506 And, we were able to get two cores within three hours. 1847 01:26:47,550 --> 01:26:49,116 But, they were covered in, of course, 1848 01:26:49,160 --> 01:26:50,727 all the mud from the coring. 1849 01:26:50,770 --> 01:26:52,207 I just said to the boys, 1850 01:26:52,250 --> 01:26:54,470 "Let's not tamper with the samples. 1851 01:26:54,513 --> 01:26:56,994 "Let's let the scientists look at the samples. 1852 01:26:57,037 --> 01:26:58,213 "What it is, it is. 1853 01:26:58,256 --> 01:26:59,562 "We'll find out when we get down." 1854 01:26:59,605 --> 01:27:01,738 - The got the core, he came back down. 1855 01:27:01,781 --> 01:27:03,043 That was his purpose, 1856 01:27:03,087 --> 01:27:06,656 and he did exactly what he was supposed to do. 1857 01:27:06,699 --> 01:27:07,613 - I had one task. 1858 01:27:07,657 --> 01:27:09,833 I believe that I accomplished it, 1859 01:27:09,876 --> 01:27:12,139 and I'm happy for that. 1860 01:27:12,183 --> 01:27:13,576 - This is the core. 1861 01:27:14,881 --> 01:27:17,493 This is obviously basalt. 1862 01:27:17,536 --> 01:27:18,581 What were we hitting? 1863 01:27:18,624 --> 01:27:19,930 We were hitting basalt. 1864 01:27:19,973 --> 01:27:21,148 Now we know. 1865 01:27:21,192 --> 01:27:23,325 What we were looking for is not there. 1866 01:27:32,638 --> 01:27:34,684 - Thomas Edison once said, 1867 01:27:35,685 --> 01:27:37,556 "I have not failed, 1868 01:27:37,600 --> 01:27:41,386 "I have just found 10,000 ways that won't work." 1869 01:27:42,605 --> 01:27:44,520 Failure is a teacher. 1870 01:27:45,564 --> 01:27:47,523 Just a stepping stone 1871 01:27:48,480 --> 01:27:50,177 on the road to success. 1872 01:27:52,963 --> 01:27:54,051 - Okay. 1873 01:27:56,619 --> 01:27:57,968 Dr. Bryant and I 1874 01:27:59,274 --> 01:28:02,146 has agreed that 1875 01:28:03,234 --> 01:28:04,714 it's done. 1876 01:28:04,757 --> 01:28:06,542 We have to call it finished. 1877 01:28:09,109 --> 01:28:12,156 Doesn't mean it's the final chapter in search for the ark. 1878 01:28:13,375 --> 01:28:14,419 - Just because we don't find something, 1879 01:28:14,463 --> 01:28:15,986 doesn't mean it's not here. 1880 01:28:16,029 --> 01:28:18,423 It means it's more difficult to find. 1881 01:28:18,467 --> 01:28:20,904 Today is not the chapter closing day, 1882 01:28:20,947 --> 01:28:23,646 it's just another day that we can add more information 1883 01:28:23,689 --> 01:28:25,256 to the components that we have, 1884 01:28:25,300 --> 01:28:26,779 and build upon that. 1885 01:28:30,043 --> 01:28:33,220 - We drilled, we got cores, 1886 01:28:33,264 --> 01:28:35,658 and the evidence was very negative. 1887 01:28:35,701 --> 01:28:37,094 We don't understand why. 1888 01:28:40,793 --> 01:28:42,491 - We've exhausted all of our options 1889 01:28:42,534 --> 01:28:43,709 at this particular time, 1890 01:28:43,753 --> 01:28:45,755 with the technology that we have available, 1891 01:28:46,625 --> 01:28:48,801 and the time that we have available. 1892 01:28:51,326 --> 01:28:52,370 - We're off. 1893 01:28:54,764 --> 01:28:55,895 - Yes, disappointment, 1894 01:28:55,939 --> 01:28:57,636 but that's not the important thing. 1895 01:28:57,680 --> 01:29:00,509 The important thing is finding out what the facts are. 1896 01:29:00,552 --> 01:29:01,727 And if we've accomplished that, 1897 01:29:01,771 --> 01:29:03,076 then that's good. 1898 01:29:04,556 --> 01:29:06,732 - Few things are as universal 1899 01:29:06,776 --> 01:29:09,605 as man's need for exploration. 1900 01:29:12,956 --> 01:29:16,089 Something ingrained in our DNA 1901 01:29:16,133 --> 01:29:18,265 calls us to search. 1902 01:29:18,309 --> 01:29:19,484 To find. 1903 01:29:25,751 --> 01:29:28,841 To discover things unknown about our past, 1904 01:29:29,712 --> 01:29:32,976 which then become our guide for the future. 1905 01:29:40,026 --> 01:29:41,027 It's a long walk. 1906 01:29:41,854 --> 01:29:42,551 It is a long walk. 1907 01:29:42,594 --> 01:29:44,161 For thousands of years, 1908 01:29:44,204 --> 01:29:47,033 man has embarked on this incredible journey 1909 01:29:47,077 --> 01:29:48,513 of discovery. 1910 01:29:50,472 --> 01:29:51,603 And in doing so, 1911 01:29:51,647 --> 01:29:54,301 ultimately finds himself. 1912 01:29:59,263 --> 01:30:00,786 - We may find it one day. 1913 01:30:00,830 --> 01:30:02,179 We may find it next year. 1914 01:30:02,222 --> 01:30:03,963 But, us being together, 1915 01:30:04,007 --> 01:30:06,531 and our journey up there, and back, 1916 01:30:06,575 --> 01:30:09,621 and how that changed our lives is really the story. 1917 01:30:11,536 --> 01:30:13,756 - So, for me, it's really been a journey of 1918 01:30:13,799 --> 01:30:17,020 trying to discover what's in my heart, what motivates me. 1919 01:30:17,063 --> 01:30:20,327 I feel very happy without even discovering the ark. 1920 01:30:22,155 --> 01:30:23,548 - When you're coming down the mountain, 1921 01:30:23,592 --> 01:30:25,594 a lot of things are rolling through your mind. 1922 01:30:27,596 --> 01:30:29,119 Were we successful? 1923 01:30:29,162 --> 01:30:30,599 Did we come up with anything 1924 01:30:30,642 --> 01:30:32,514 to take us further down the road? 1925 01:30:32,557 --> 01:30:35,517 In my mind, scientifically, 1926 01:30:35,560 --> 01:30:37,736 did we just waste a lot of money? 1927 01:30:37,780 --> 01:30:40,478 Did we waste a lot of time, and risk people's lives? 1928 01:30:41,392 --> 01:30:43,525 But, there were times I just felt like, 1929 01:30:43,568 --> 01:30:46,179 "Wow, I'm as closest to heaven I can be on Earth. 1930 01:30:48,530 --> 01:30:49,879 I do feel like 1931 01:30:49,922 --> 01:30:51,794 I had a mountain top experience with the Lord. 1932 01:30:53,012 --> 01:30:54,666 - When you come back down, and you didn't find it, 1933 01:30:54,710 --> 01:30:57,234 it's kinda like going to the Superbowl and losing. 1934 01:30:57,277 --> 01:30:59,932 You're still a player, you still gave it all, 1935 01:30:59,976 --> 01:31:01,586 you left it all on the field, 1936 01:31:01,630 --> 01:31:04,676 but you just didn't win. 1937 01:31:04,720 --> 01:31:06,678 - The expedition was not a disappointment. 1938 01:31:10,813 --> 01:31:14,077 We scientifically ruled out the eastern plateau. 1939 01:31:14,120 --> 01:31:16,209 And we got our team down safely. 1940 01:31:19,082 --> 01:31:20,475 - We did it together. 1941 01:31:22,302 --> 01:31:23,652 I could not have made it 1942 01:31:23,695 --> 01:31:26,219 without the guys that I climbed with. 1943 01:31:27,394 --> 01:31:29,092 - The men I've been on this expedition, 1944 01:31:29,135 --> 01:31:30,702 you can get deep with them, 1945 01:31:30,746 --> 01:31:32,008 and that's what you look for in life. 1946 01:31:34,924 --> 01:31:36,752 - Very glad to be back down here, 1947 01:31:36,795 --> 01:31:39,755 I need to get my strength back. 1948 01:31:42,409 --> 01:31:43,585 - Eat! 1949 01:31:44,499 --> 01:31:47,545 - The ark, to me, represents a dream. 1950 01:31:47,589 --> 01:31:49,242 If you want it, 1951 01:31:49,286 --> 01:31:51,593 and you feel called to it, 1952 01:31:51,636 --> 01:31:52,768 go do it. 1953 01:31:52,811 --> 01:31:55,031 - The most emotional experience for me 1954 01:31:56,075 --> 01:31:57,686 was the summoning. 1955 01:31:59,731 --> 01:32:02,038 I was overwhelmed with it. 1956 01:32:02,081 --> 01:32:04,649 I'm gonna get emotional right now, 1957 01:32:04,693 --> 01:32:08,740 because it was a goal I set out to do. 1958 01:32:09,785 --> 01:32:12,744 And God blessed me to be able to do it. 1959 01:32:13,919 --> 01:32:16,835 And I knew, even if we didn't find the ark, 1960 01:32:16,879 --> 01:32:19,142 just climbing a mountain of that magnitude 1961 01:32:20,665 --> 01:32:21,971 is something I'm gonna remember, 1962 01:32:22,014 --> 01:32:23,929 and my family's gonna remember 1963 01:32:23,973 --> 01:32:25,409 for the rest of our lives. 1964 01:32:25,452 --> 01:32:27,237 - I may not have found Noah's Ark, 1965 01:32:27,280 --> 01:32:31,154 but, I found, I think, something much more important, 1966 01:32:31,197 --> 01:32:33,809 and much more lasting, and that is, 1967 01:32:33,852 --> 01:32:35,071 I believe that, 1968 01:32:35,114 --> 01:32:37,073 in the process of trying to discover the ark, 1969 01:32:37,116 --> 01:32:38,553 I've discovered more about myself, 1970 01:32:38,596 --> 01:32:40,424 and I discovered more about God. 1971 01:32:40,467 --> 01:32:41,991 - There will be a time 1972 01:32:42,034 --> 01:32:44,080 that structure will be revealed. 1973 01:32:45,211 --> 01:32:47,126 It's there. 1974 01:32:47,170 --> 01:32:50,260 It's been there for a purpose, and for a certain time. 1975 01:32:50,303 --> 01:32:51,609 It will be revealed. 1976 01:32:52,958 --> 01:32:55,178 - Why would God want you to find the ark? 1977 01:32:55,221 --> 01:32:57,180 - I don't know that he wants us to find the ark, 1978 01:32:57,223 --> 01:33:00,444 but I am fairly convinced that he wants us to look. 1979 01:33:00,487 --> 01:33:01,967 And in that sense, yeah, 1980 01:33:02,011 --> 01:33:05,014 it's very much more about the journey, than discovery. 1981 01:33:05,057 --> 01:33:07,103 - With the Kurdish men, 1982 01:33:07,146 --> 01:33:09,279 it's some of the closest friendships I've got. 1983 01:33:09,322 --> 01:33:10,497 I mean, when you go through 1984 01:33:10,541 --> 01:33:12,195 what we've gone through together, 1985 01:33:12,238 --> 01:33:15,590 it does something to you to make you close. 1986 01:33:20,159 --> 01:33:22,814 - As the shepherds return with their flocks, 1987 01:33:25,469 --> 01:33:27,993 and families prepare for the winter ahead, 1988 01:33:30,387 --> 01:33:32,258 the beliefs they hold 1989 01:33:32,302 --> 01:33:34,434 remain unchallenged. 1990 01:33:36,567 --> 01:33:37,916 - I'll never regret being able to say, 1991 01:33:37,960 --> 01:33:39,439 "I've been there, I've done that. 1992 01:33:39,483 --> 01:33:41,180 "I stood up there on the mountain. 1993 01:33:41,224 --> 01:33:42,704 "I've looked for Noah's Ark." 1994 01:33:42,747 --> 01:33:44,314 - The hunger's still there. 1995 01:33:44,357 --> 01:33:46,664 It's still something that needs to be searched for. 1996 01:33:46,708 --> 01:33:47,534 - Will we find it? 1997 01:33:47,578 --> 01:33:48,274 I don't know. 1998 01:33:48,318 --> 01:33:49,536 Will it be found? 1999 01:33:49,580 --> 01:33:51,190 I don't know that it's there to be found. 2000 01:33:51,234 --> 01:33:52,061 Does it exist? 2001 01:33:52,104 --> 01:33:53,671 Yes, I believe that. 2002 01:33:53,715 --> 01:33:56,195 Does that change whether or not we should be looking for it? 2003 01:33:58,328 --> 01:34:00,460 Not at all. 2004 01:34:00,504 --> 01:34:03,376 ♪ Inside your head 2005 01:34:03,420 --> 01:34:06,728 ♪ You got a voice that says 2006 01:34:06,771 --> 01:34:09,731 ♪ You won't get past this one 2007 01:34:09,774 --> 01:34:12,908 ♪ You won't win your freedom 2008 01:34:12,951 --> 01:34:16,085 ♪ It's like a constant war 2009 01:34:16,128 --> 01:34:19,523 ♪ And you want to settle that score 2010 01:34:19,566 --> 01:34:22,526 ♪ But, you're bruised and beaten 2011 01:34:22,569 --> 01:34:25,747 ♪ And you feel defeated 2012 01:34:26,573 --> 01:34:29,707 ♪ This goes out to the heaviest hearts. 2013 01:34:32,710 --> 01:34:36,105 ♪ Oh, to everyone that's hit their limit 2014 01:34:36,148 --> 01:34:39,586 ♪ It's not over yet, it's not over yet 2015 01:34:39,630 --> 01:34:42,589 ♪ And even when you think you're finished 2016 01:34:42,633 --> 01:34:45,636 ♪ It's not over yet, it's not over yet 2017 01:34:45,680 --> 01:34:48,595 ♪ Keep on fighting 2018 01:34:48,639 --> 01:34:51,773 ♪ Out of the dark, into the light 2019 01:34:51,816 --> 01:34:54,993 ♪ Hope is rising 2020 01:34:55,037 --> 01:34:58,736 ♪ Never give in, never give up, it's not over 2021 01:34:59,694 --> 01:35:01,652 ♪ Yea-et-et, whoah 2022 01:35:02,784 --> 01:35:05,264 ♪ Yeah-et-et, whoah 2023 01:35:05,830 --> 01:35:08,267 ♪ Yeah-et-et, whoah 2024 01:35:09,051 --> 01:35:11,575 ♪ Yeah-et-et, whoah 2025 01:35:12,097 --> 01:35:13,272 - I don't think it matters 2026 01:35:13,316 --> 01:35:14,883 whether or not you could ever find the ark. 2027 01:35:14,926 --> 01:35:15,840 I think the value today is, 2028 01:35:15,884 --> 01:35:17,842 what could it teach us about 2029 01:35:17,886 --> 01:35:21,237 our responsibility to safeguard creation 2030 01:35:21,280 --> 01:35:23,805 the way Noah in the story safeguarded creation. 2031 01:35:23,848 --> 01:35:25,545 Brought all the animals through the flood. 2032 01:35:25,589 --> 01:35:28,026 You look at what's happening to the earth today, 2033 01:35:28,070 --> 01:35:30,376 in terms of the massive extinction event that's going on, 2034 01:35:30,420 --> 01:35:31,943 on our watch, 2035 01:35:31,987 --> 01:35:35,077 and we're not doing the job that Noah was tasked with doing. 2036 01:35:35,120 --> 01:35:37,775 So, to me, the resonance and value of the story today, 2037 01:35:37,819 --> 01:35:40,125 is that it's a powerful message 2038 01:35:40,169 --> 01:35:43,738 about what our responsibilities are to safeguard creation. 2039 01:35:44,434 --> 01:35:47,089 ♪ Life is a race we run 2040 01:35:47,132 --> 01:35:49,744 ♪ So run 'til the race is won 2041 01:35:49,787 --> 01:35:52,964 ♪ Don't you ever give up 2042 01:35:53,008 --> 01:35:57,142 ♪ We will never give up 2043 01:35:57,795 --> 01:36:00,624 ♪ To everyone who's hit their limit 2044 01:36:03,322 --> 01:36:07,239 ♪ And even when you think you're finished 2045 01:36:10,634 --> 01:36:13,463 ♪ To everyone who's hit their limit 2046 01:36:13,506 --> 01:36:16,858 ♪ It's not over yet, it's not over yet. 2047 01:36:16,901 --> 01:36:19,774 ♪ And even when you think you're finished 2048 01:36:19,817 --> 01:36:22,907 ♪ It's not over yet, it's not over yet. 2049 01:36:22,951 --> 01:36:25,867 ♪ Keep on fighting 2050 01:36:25,910 --> 01:36:29,174 ♪ Out of the dark, into the light. 2051 01:36:29,218 --> 01:36:32,308 ♪ Hope is rising 2052 01:36:32,351 --> 01:36:34,614 ♪ Never give in, never give up 2053 01:36:34,658 --> 01:36:36,268 ♪ It's not over 2054 01:36:36,791 --> 01:36:39,010 ♪ Yea-et-et, whoah 2055 01:36:39,837 --> 01:36:42,231 ♪ Yea-et-et, whoah 2056 01:36:43,014 --> 01:36:45,669 ♪ Yea-et-et, whoah 2057 01:36:46,278 --> 01:36:48,846 ♪ Yea-et-et, whoah 2058 01:36:49,455 --> 01:36:51,457 - 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