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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:03,350 --> 00:00:08,720 >>> On this episode of "death row stories" a triple murder of 2 00:00:08,730 --> 00:00:11,070 row stories" a triple murder of unmanageable brutality. 3 00:00:11,060 --> 00:00:12,460 Unmanageable brutality. >> This is the one case that 4 00:00:12,460 --> 00:00:15,460 >> this is the one case that truly screams out for the death 5 00:00:15,470 --> 00:00:15,740 truly screams out for the death penalty. 6 00:00:15,730 --> 00:00:17,900 Penalty. >> A soldier who can't convince 7 00:00:17,900 --> 00:00:19,570 >> a soldier who can't convince his own lawyer until the 8 00:00:19,570 --> 00:00:21,000 his own lawyer until the prosecution's case falls apart. 9 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:22,100 Prosecution's case falls apart. >> The state's primary witness 10 00:00:22,110 --> 00:00:24,250 >> the state's primary witness said, I feel like I'm sending an 11 00:00:24,240 --> 00:00:25,070 said, I feel like I'm sending an innocent man to prison. 12 00:00:25,080 --> 00:00:27,620 Innocent man to prison. >> And a shocking twist makes 13 00:00:27,610 --> 00:00:28,040 >> and a shocking twist makes legal history. 14 00:00:28,050 --> 00:00:30,290 Legal history. >> Take a deep seat. 15 00:00:30,280 --> 00:00:31,910 >> Take a deep seat. They've got something to tell 16 00:00:31,920 --> 00:00:35,890 they've got something to tell you. 17 00:00:35,890 --> 00:00:37,280 You. >> There's a body in the water. 18 00:00:37,290 --> 00:00:39,420 >> There's a body in the water. >> He was butchered and 19 00:00:39,420 --> 00:00:39,850 >> he was butchered and murdered. 20 00:00:39,860 --> 00:00:41,720 Murdered. Many people proclaim their 21 00:00:41,730 --> 00:00:42,070 many people proclaim their innocence. 22 00:00:42,060 --> 00:00:43,920 Innocence. >> In this case there are a 23 00:00:43,930 --> 00:00:45,130 >> in this case there are a number of things that stink. 24 00:00:45,130 --> 00:00:46,860 Number of things that stink. >> This man is remorseless. 25 00:00:46,860 --> 00:00:47,860 >> This man is remorseless. >> He needs to pay for it with 26 00:00:47,860 --> 00:00:48,360 >> he needs to pay for it with his life. 27 00:00:48,370 --> 00:00:50,370 His life. >> The electric chair flashed in 28 00:00:50,370 --> 00:00:51,270 >> the electric chair flashed in front of my eyes. 29 00:00:51,270 --> 00:00:53,630 Front of my eyes. >> Get a conviction at all 30 00:00:53,640 --> 00:00:53,830 >> get a conviction at all costs. 31 00:00:53,840 --> 00:01:03,540 Costs. Let the truth fall where it may. 32 00:01:03,550 --> 00:01:07,920 Let the truth fall where it may. >> Mother's day 1985, it was a 33 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:08,850 >> mother's day 1985, it was a beautiful morning in Faye 34 00:01:08,850 --> 00:01:09,580 beautiful morning in Faye fayettev 35 00:01:09,590 --> 00:01:10,980 fayettev fayetteville, north Carolina. 36 00:01:10,990 --> 00:01:12,050 Fayetteville, north Carolina. >> The dogwoods are blooming. 37 00:01:12,060 --> 00:01:13,530 >> The dogwoods are blooming. Rolling hills. 38 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:14,520 Rolling hills. Neighbors know each other. 39 00:01:14,520 --> 00:01:16,060 Neighbors know each other. Of course, they're all military 40 00:01:16,060 --> 00:01:16,320 of course, they're all military families. 41 00:01:16,330 --> 00:01:18,830 Families. It's within a mile of the ft. 42 00:01:18,830 --> 00:01:19,760 It's within a mile of the ft. Bragg base itself. 43 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:21,960 Bragg base itself. >> But on summer hill road 44 00:01:21,970 --> 00:01:23,910 >> but on summer hill road something seemed amiss at the 45 00:01:23,900 --> 00:01:25,170 something seemed amiss at the home of the eastburn family. 46 00:01:25,170 --> 00:01:29,140 Home of the eastburn family. >> Neighbor noticed that the 47 00:01:29,140 --> 00:01:31,110 >> neighbor noticed that the newspapers in their driveway 48 00:01:31,110 --> 00:01:31,570 newspapers in their driveway were piling up. 49 00:01:31,580 --> 00:01:33,220 Were piling up. He knew that her husband was out 50 00:01:33,210 --> 00:01:35,910 he knew that her husband was out of town, so that naturally 51 00:01:35,910 --> 00:01:37,780 of town, so that naturally raises curiosity. 52 00:01:37,780 --> 00:01:39,210 Raises curiosity. He went and peeped in the window 53 00:01:39,220 --> 00:01:41,720 he went and peeped in the window and heard the baby crying. 54 00:01:41,720 --> 00:01:45,120 And heard the baby crying. And then he called the 55 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:45,420 and then he called the authorities. 56 00:01:45,420 --> 00:01:49,090 Authorities. >> I received a call from the 57 00:01:49,090 --> 00:01:53,460 >> I received a call from the dispatch of homicide on summer 58 00:01:53,460 --> 00:01:54,030 dispatch of homicide on summer hill road. 59 00:01:54,030 --> 00:01:56,560 Hill road. When I got there there was one 60 00:01:56,570 --> 00:01:59,330 when I got there there was one deputy who had been in the 61 00:01:59,340 --> 00:01:59,830 deputy who had been in the building. 62 00:01:59,840 --> 00:02:01,970 Building. He was kind of holding his hat 63 00:02:01,970 --> 00:02:02,900 he was kind of holding his hat down and shaking his head. 64 00:02:02,910 --> 00:02:03,470 Down and shaking his head. He said, I don't understand 65 00:02:03,470 --> 00:02:04,710 he said, I don't understand this. 66 00:02:04,710 --> 00:02:07,270 This. >> The baby was taken to safety, 67 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:09,910 >> the baby was taken to safety, and detective biddle and his 68 00:02:09,910 --> 00:02:10,740 and detective biddle and his partner entered the house. 69 00:02:10,750 --> 00:02:12,280 Partner entered the house. >> As we went down the hallway 70 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:13,980 >> as we went down the hallway on the bedroom on the left-hand 71 00:02:13,980 --> 00:02:15,450 on the bedroom on the left-hand side the first daughter was in 72 00:02:15,450 --> 00:02:18,150 side the first daughter was in there and she was in the first 73 00:02:18,160 --> 00:02:18,360 there and she was in the first grade. 74 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:20,630 Grade. She was still in bed, and she 75 00:02:20,620 --> 00:02:22,090 she was still in bed, and she had a "star wars" blanket pulled 76 00:02:22,090 --> 00:02:24,020 had a "star wars" blanket pulled up around her neck. 77 00:02:24,030 --> 00:02:27,730 Up around her neck. And she was stabbed ten times. 78 00:02:27,730 --> 00:02:29,430 And she was stabbed ten times. You could see the stab wounds 79 00:02:29,430 --> 00:02:31,530 you could see the stab wounds through the blanket. 80 00:02:31,540 --> 00:02:33,210 Through the blanket. We went further to the master 81 00:02:33,200 --> 00:02:33,500 we went further to the master bedroom. 82 00:02:33,500 --> 00:02:34,970 Bedroom. The youngest child was laying 83 00:02:34,970 --> 00:02:35,270 the youngest child was laying there. 84 00:02:35,270 --> 00:02:37,000 There. She was on her back. 85 00:02:37,010 --> 00:02:40,770 She was on her back. Her throat had been cut, almost 86 00:02:40,780 --> 00:02:41,070 her throat had been cut, almost decapitated. 87 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:44,410 Decapitated. And on the right-hand side 88 00:02:44,410 --> 00:02:47,880 and on the right-hand side facing the bed was the mother. 89 00:02:47,880 --> 00:02:51,080 Facing the bed was the mother. The bra was up around her neck. 90 00:02:51,090 --> 00:02:54,150 The bra was up around her neck. Her panties had been cut off 91 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:54,620 her panties had been cut off her. 92 00:02:54,620 --> 00:02:56,420 Her. She had 14 stab wounds. 93 00:02:56,430 --> 00:02:58,430 She had 14 stab wounds. >> The victims were Katie 94 00:02:58,430 --> 00:03:03,930 >> the victims were Katie eastburn, age 32, Kara, age 5, 95 00:03:03,930 --> 00:03:05,300 eastburn, age 32, Kara, age 5, and Erin, age 3. 96 00:03:05,300 --> 00:03:07,530 And Erin, age 3. >> For so long after that 97 00:03:07,540 --> 00:03:08,570 >> for so long after that homicide I could close my eyes 98 00:03:08,570 --> 00:03:11,870 homicide I could close my eyes at night and I could see those 99 00:03:11,880 --> 00:03:12,150 at night and I could see those children. 100 00:03:12,140 --> 00:03:14,110 Children. >> Katie eastburn's husband Gary 101 00:03:14,110 --> 00:03:16,110 >> Katie eastburn's husband Gary was an air force captain. 102 00:03:16,110 --> 00:03:19,110 Was an air force captain. He rushed back from training in 103 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:19,390 he rushed back from training in Alabama. 104 00:03:19,380 --> 00:03:25,290 Alabama. >> It's hard to explain. 105 00:03:25,290 --> 00:03:27,350 >> It's hard to explain. The world stops. 106 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:29,390 The world stops. >> You look in his eyes, there 107 00:03:29,390 --> 00:03:31,530 >> you look in his eyes, there was a void there. 108 00:03:31,530 --> 00:03:32,390 Was a void there. Tears your heart out. 109 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:34,640 Tears your heart out. But you have to gather yourself 110 00:03:34,630 --> 00:03:36,430 but you have to gather yourself because you have a job to do. 111 00:03:36,430 --> 00:03:37,730 Because you have a job to do. We're going to find out who did 112 00:03:37,730 --> 00:03:42,870 we're going to find out who did this. 113 00:03:42,870 --> 00:03:44,500 This. >> There was evidence all over 114 00:03:44,510 --> 00:03:45,840 >> there was evidence all over that house. 115 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:50,340 That house. They found a head hair in Mrs. 116 00:03:50,350 --> 00:03:54,050 They found a head hair in Mrs. eastburn's bed, head hair on 117 00:03:54,050 --> 00:03:58,290 eastburn's bed, head hair on Kara's chest, pubic hair at the 118 00:03:58,290 --> 00:04:01,320 Kara's chest, pubic hair at the scene of the rape, food prints, 119 00:04:01,320 --> 00:04:02,060 scene of the rape, food prints, semen sample. 120 00:04:02,060 --> 00:04:03,660 Semen sample. They were certain that physical 121 00:04:03,660 --> 00:04:04,590 they were certain that physical evidence would lead to whoever 122 00:04:04,590 --> 00:04:06,030 evidence would lead to whoever killed this family. 123 00:04:06,030 --> 00:04:07,560 Killed this family. >> After walking through the 124 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:10,000 >> after walking through the house, Gary eastburn also 125 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:13,130 house, Gary eastburn also provided a tantalizing -- 126 00:04:13,140 --> 00:04:14,600 provided a tantalizing -- >> they were going to move to 127 00:04:14,600 --> 00:04:17,300 >> they were going to move to england when captain eastburn 128 00:04:17,310 --> 00:04:18,770 england when captain eastburn got done training in Alabama. 129 00:04:18,780 --> 00:04:20,520 Got done training in Alabama. The family decided to sell their 130 00:04:20,510 --> 00:04:20,740 the family decided to sell their dog. 131 00:04:20,740 --> 00:04:24,610 Dog. So they put an ad out in their 132 00:04:24,610 --> 00:04:27,910 so they put an ad out in their local ft. Bragg beat and Katie 133 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:29,520 local ft. Bragg beat and Katie eastburn wrote a letter saying a 134 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:30,520 eastburn wrote a letter saying a nice man came out Tuesday night 135 00:04:30,520 --> 00:04:31,290 nice man came out Tuesday night and got the dog. 136 00:04:31,290 --> 00:04:34,450 And got the dog. >> We had no idea who it was but 137 00:04:34,460 --> 00:04:35,560 >> we had no idea who it was but anybody we knew were in the 138 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:37,460 anybody we knew were in the house we wanted to talk to. 139 00:04:37,460 --> 00:04:39,330 House we wanted to talk to. >> Outside the crime scene 140 00:04:39,330 --> 00:04:41,430 >> outside the crime scene someone approached investigators 141 00:04:41,430 --> 00:04:42,400 someone approached investigators with critical information from 142 00:04:42,400 --> 00:04:44,230 with critical information from the night of the murders. 143 00:04:44,230 --> 00:04:46,370 The night of the murders. >> There was a young black male 144 00:04:46,370 --> 00:04:49,340 >> there was a young black male named Patrick koem. 145 00:04:49,340 --> 00:04:51,240 Named Patrick koem. He had been at his girlfriend's 146 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:51,940 he had been at his girlfriend's house Thursday night about 2:00 147 00:04:51,940 --> 00:04:52,640 house Thursday night about 2:00 in the morning. 148 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:54,510 In the morning. He saw a big white dude walking 149 00:04:54,510 --> 00:04:56,140 he saw a big white dude walking down the driveway. 150 00:04:56,150 --> 00:04:59,850 Down the driveway. He had blond hair, about 6'2", 151 00:04:59,850 --> 00:05:00,680 he had blond hair, about 6'2", 6'3", and he had on a members 152 00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:02,020 6'3", and he had on a members only black jacket, a stocking 153 00:05:02,020 --> 00:05:04,890 only black jacket, a stocking cap, and he had a mustache. 154 00:05:04,890 --> 00:05:06,350 Cap, and he had a mustache. >> They passed on the road. 155 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:07,990 >> They passed on the road. This person said, I'm getting an 156 00:05:07,990 --> 00:05:11,290 this person said, I'm getting an early start this morning me got 157 00:05:11,290 --> 00:05:15,460 early start this morning me got into a white chevette and drove 158 00:05:15,470 --> 00:05:15,710 into a white chevette and drove off. 159 00:05:15,700 --> 00:05:17,730 Off. >> I took pat down to the lab 160 00:05:17,730 --> 00:05:19,330 >> I took pat down to the lab and they did a composite. 161 00:05:19,340 --> 00:05:21,470 And they did a composite. I said, are you sure he looked 162 00:05:21,470 --> 00:05:22,040 I said, are you sure he looked like this? 163 00:05:22,040 --> 00:05:23,670 Like this? This guy has a black man's nose 164 00:05:23,670 --> 00:05:25,610 this guy has a black man's nose and droopy, lazy eye. 165 00:05:25,610 --> 00:05:27,510 And droopy, lazy eye. He said, that's what I saw. 166 00:05:27,510 --> 00:05:29,810 He said, that's what I saw. >> Six days after the murders 167 00:05:29,810 --> 00:05:34,550 >> six days after the murders police put out a call for the 168 00:05:34,550 --> 00:05:36,380 police put out a call for the man who adependopted the eastbu 169 00:05:36,390 --> 00:05:36,950 man who adependopted the eastbu dog. 170 00:05:36,950 --> 00:05:42,120 Dog. Army sergeant tell moth think 171 00:05:42,130 --> 00:05:43,500 army sergeant tell moth think hennis home with his lunch with 172 00:05:43,490 --> 00:05:45,130 hennis home with his lunch with his wife, daughter and new dog. 173 00:05:45,130 --> 00:05:46,490 His wife, daughter and new dog. >> Hey, buddy, that's you. 174 00:05:46,500 --> 00:05:49,700 >> Hey, buddy, that's you. They immediately packed up and 175 00:05:49,700 --> 00:05:51,870 they immediately packed up and went to the sheriff's 176 00:05:51,870 --> 00:05:52,170 went to the sheriff's department. 177 00:05:52,170 --> 00:05:54,740 Department. >> As I walk into the office, 178 00:05:54,740 --> 00:05:55,370 >> as I walk into the office, hennis is sitting there. 179 00:05:55,370 --> 00:05:56,600 Hennis is sitting there. I stopped right in my tracks and 180 00:05:56,610 --> 00:05:58,740 I stopped right in my tracks and I look at him and I look at that 181 00:05:58,740 --> 00:06:00,540 I look at him and I look at that composite and I said, my 182 00:06:00,540 --> 00:06:02,940 composite and I said, my goodness, this is our man right 183 00:06:02,950 --> 00:06:03,680 goodness, this is our man right here. 184 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:05,480 Here. >> Go find Patrick and they put 185 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:07,910 >> go find Patrick and they put together a photo lineup and he 186 00:06:07,920 --> 00:06:09,820 together a photo lineup and he eventually settled on number 187 00:06:09,820 --> 00:06:12,620 eventually settled on number two, which that was Tim hennis. 188 00:06:12,620 --> 00:06:14,020 Two, which that was Tim hennis. I said, are you sure? 189 00:06:14,020 --> 00:06:14,720 I said, are you sure? I'm sure. 190 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:16,920 I'm sure. He also in the parking lot 191 00:06:16,930 --> 00:06:21,900 he also in the parking lot picked hennis' white chevette 192 00:06:21,900 --> 00:06:23,400 picked hennis' white chevette out and he said that's the car I 193 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:24,030 out and he said that's the car I saw. 194 00:06:24,030 --> 00:06:29,440 Saw. Hennis was still in the 195 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:31,300 hennis was still in the sheriff's and he was 196 00:06:31,310 --> 00:06:32,040 sheriff's and he was cooperative. 197 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:33,340 Cooperative. Midway through he realized he 198 00:06:33,340 --> 00:06:34,340 midway through he realized he was becoming a suspect and he 199 00:06:34,340 --> 00:06:35,880 was becoming a suspect and he was getting madder and madder 200 00:06:35,880 --> 00:06:36,480 was getting madder and madder and madder. 201 00:06:36,480 --> 00:06:38,950 And madder. >> Get that thing out of my 202 00:06:38,950 --> 00:06:39,150 >> get that thing out of my face. 203 00:06:39,150 --> 00:06:40,080 Face. >> He is the most arrogant human 204 00:06:40,080 --> 00:06:43,020 >> he is the most arrogant human being I've ever seen in my life. 205 00:06:43,020 --> 00:06:43,650 Being I've ever seen in my life. He just felt like you can't 206 00:06:43,650 --> 00:06:44,480 he just felt like you can't touch me. 207 00:06:44,490 --> 00:06:46,520 Touch me. Well, yes, we will touch you. 208 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:49,220 Well, yes, we will touch you. We reached out and touched him. 209 00:06:49,230 --> 00:06:51,940 We reached out and touched him. >> At 1:00 A.M. sheriffs 210 00:06:51,930 --> 00:06:54,030 >> at 1:00 A.M. sheriffs arrested Timothy hennis. 211 00:06:54,030 --> 00:06:55,000 Arrested Timothy hennis. They charged him with rape and 212 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:56,860 they charged him with rape and capital murder. 213 00:06:56,870 --> 00:06:58,930 Capital murder. He would face the death penalty. 214 00:06:58,940 --> 00:07:00,610 He would face the death penalty. The arrest of a sergeant from 215 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:03,540 the arrest of a sergeant from the nation's largest army base 216 00:07:03,540 --> 00:07:04,370 the nation's largest army base sent shockwaves through the 217 00:07:04,370 --> 00:07:08,440 sent shockwaves through the tight knit community around ft. 218 00:07:08,450 --> 00:07:08,750 Tight knit community around ft. Bragg. 219 00:07:08,750 --> 00:07:11,420 Bragg. >> Most patriotic city in the 220 00:07:11,410 --> 00:07:11,650 >> most patriotic city in the country. 221 00:07:11,650 --> 00:07:14,280 Country. If someone is murdered out of 222 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:15,980 if someone is murdered out of the blue, that stir it is blood 223 00:07:15,990 --> 00:07:17,260 the blue, that stir it is blood in Faye yitville. 224 00:07:17,250 --> 00:07:17,950 In Faye yitville. >> Do you have any idea who 225 00:07:17,950 --> 00:07:18,620 >> do you have any idea who would do this? 226 00:07:18,620 --> 00:07:20,720 Would do this? >> Well, she was getting some 227 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:21,920 >> well, she was getting some strange phone calls. 228 00:07:21,930 --> 00:07:24,570 Strange phone calls. >> Don't be giving no ideas. 229 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:26,060 >> Don't be giving no ideas. >> I ain't giving no ideas 230 00:07:26,060 --> 00:07:27,730 >> I ain't giving no ideas about -- would ju just -- 231 00:07:27,730 --> 00:07:29,630 about -- would ju just -- >> they get outraged. 232 00:07:29,630 --> 00:07:30,300 >> They get outraged. Justice must be done. 233 00:07:30,300 --> 00:07:33,630 Justice must be done. >> To defend their son Tim 234 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:35,800 >> to defend their son Tim hennis' parents hired two young 235 00:07:35,810 --> 00:07:38,180 hennis' parents hired two young lawyers, Jerry beaver and Billy 236 00:07:38,170 --> 00:07:38,810 lawyers, Jerry beaver and Billy richar 237 00:07:38,810 --> 00:07:39,110 richar Richardson. 238 00:07:39,110 --> 00:07:41,340 Richardson. >> I thought Tim was guilty as 239 00:07:41,340 --> 00:07:42,880 >> I thought Tim was guilty as all get out. 240 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:44,110 All get out. I didn't particularly care for 241 00:07:44,110 --> 00:07:46,010 I didn't particularly care for Tim, but the law school I went 242 00:07:46,020 --> 00:07:47,760 Tim, but the law school I went to stressed the importance of 243 00:07:47,750 --> 00:07:52,090 to stressed the importance of taking unpopular cases. 244 00:07:52,090 --> 00:07:54,190 Taking unpopular cases. >> In the days immediately 245 00:07:54,190 --> 00:07:55,490 >> in the days immediately afterwards the news got worse 246 00:07:55,490 --> 00:07:56,390 afterwards the news got worse for Tim hennis. 247 00:07:56,390 --> 00:07:59,060 For Tim hennis. He had no alibi. 248 00:07:59,060 --> 00:08:01,060 He had no alibi. Angela hennis was out of town 249 00:08:01,060 --> 00:08:01,660 Angela hennis was out of town all weekend. 250 00:08:01,660 --> 00:08:04,660 All weekend. On Saturday morning he dragged a 251 00:08:04,670 --> 00:08:05,500 on Saturday morning he dragged a barrel out in the middle of the 252 00:08:05,500 --> 00:08:06,830 barrel out in the middle of the backyard and started burning 253 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:07,100 backyard and started burning stuff. 254 00:08:07,100 --> 00:08:08,740 Stuff. Something his neighbors had 255 00:08:08,740 --> 00:08:10,200 something his neighbors had never seen him do before. 256 00:08:10,210 --> 00:08:11,910 Never seen him do before. >> I don't know what it was but 257 00:08:11,910 --> 00:08:13,910 >> I don't know what it was but it was something he burned. 258 00:08:13,910 --> 00:08:15,710 It was something he burned. >> The lady who owns the 259 00:08:15,710 --> 00:08:16,840 >> the lady who owns the cleaners called US, he said, 260 00:08:16,850 --> 00:08:19,280 cleaners called US, he said, that man that you all have 261 00:08:19,280 --> 00:08:21,410 that man that you all have arrested brought a black members 262 00:08:21,420 --> 00:08:24,120 arrested brought a black members only jacket into my cleaners 263 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:24,350 only jacket into my cleaners Friday. 264 00:08:24,350 --> 00:08:25,390 Friday. Look suspicious to you. 265 00:08:25,390 --> 00:08:27,620 Look suspicious to you. >> Katie eastburn's stolen bank 266 00:08:27,620 --> 00:08:29,390 >> Katie eastburn's stolen bank card, used twice, on the Friday 267 00:08:29,390 --> 00:08:31,660 card, used twice, on the Friday night and Saturday morning, $150 268 00:08:31,660 --> 00:08:33,490 night and Saturday morning, $150 each time. 269 00:08:33,500 --> 00:08:35,860 Each time. Found hennis was late on rent to 270 00:08:35,870 --> 00:08:37,940 found hennis was late on rent to the tune of $300 which he paid 271 00:08:37,930 --> 00:08:38,230 the tune of $300 which he paid on Monday. 272 00:08:38,230 --> 00:08:39,370 On Monday. >> We really thought he was 273 00:08:39,370 --> 00:08:39,600 >> we really thought he was guilty. 274 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:41,300 Guilty. And there was a lot of physical 275 00:08:41,300 --> 00:08:43,200 and there was a lot of physical evidence that was being tested 276 00:08:43,210 --> 00:08:44,840 evidence that was being tested and if some physical evidence 277 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:46,170 and if some physical evidence came back to him he was dead. 278 00:08:46,180 --> 00:08:47,720 Came back to him he was dead. So we wanted to come in ahead of 279 00:08:47,710 --> 00:08:50,610 so we wanted to come in ahead of time and get him to plea before 280 00:08:50,610 --> 00:08:52,410 time and get him to plea before that came out. 281 00:08:52,420 --> 00:08:54,260 That came out. >> But to Richardson's surprise, 282 00:08:54,250 --> 00:08:57,950 >> but to Richardson's surprise, hennis refused to consider plea 283 00:08:57,950 --> 00:08:58,150 hennis refused to consider plea deal. 284 00:08:58,150 --> 00:08:59,090 Deal. >> Tim said something that 285 00:08:59,090 --> 00:08:59,650 >> Tim said something that haunted me. 286 00:08:59,660 --> 00:09:01,860 Haunted me. He looked at US and said they 287 00:09:01,860 --> 00:09:02,860 he looked at US and said they can test whatever they want, I 288 00:09:02,860 --> 00:09:05,030 can test whatever they want, I was not in that house, I did not 289 00:09:05,030 --> 00:09:05,230 was not in that house, I did not do it. 290 00:09:05,230 --> 00:09:06,160 Do it. It's just that simple. 291 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:08,360 It's just that simple. >> When the lab reports with 292 00:09:08,360 --> 00:09:10,860 >> when the lab reports with blood type footprints and 293 00:09:10,870 --> 00:09:12,830 blood type footprints and fingerprints came back they 294 00:09:12,840 --> 00:09:13,510 fingerprints came back they corroborated hennis' account. 295 00:09:13,500 --> 00:09:15,140 Corroborated hennis' account. >> Physical evidence had not 296 00:09:15,140 --> 00:09:17,400 >> physical evidence had not matched Tim hennis, none of it 297 00:09:17,410 --> 00:09:17,600 matched Tim hennis, none of it had. 298 00:09:17,610 --> 00:09:20,640 Had. >> Inconclusive or negative, 299 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:21,780 >> inconclusive or negative, inconclusive or negative. 300 00:09:21,780 --> 00:09:23,280 Inconclusive or negative. There wasn't a shred of physical 301 00:09:23,280 --> 00:09:24,810 there wasn't a shred of physical evidence that was linking Tim to 302 00:09:24,810 --> 00:09:25,110 evidence that was linking Tim to the crime. 303 00:09:25,110 --> 00:09:26,810 The crime. >> Billy's viewpoint then became 304 00:09:26,820 --> 00:09:28,980 >> Billy's viewpoint then became he must get this man exonerated 305 00:09:28,990 --> 00:09:29,660 he must get this man exonerated because I believed him. 306 00:09:29,650 --> 00:09:32,350 Because I believed him. >> Someone other than my client 307 00:09:32,360 --> 00:09:35,500 >> someone other than my client committed this crime. 308 00:09:35,490 --> 00:09:36,690 Committed this crime. >> From that point on I was 309 00:09:36,690 --> 00:09:37,220 >> from that point on I was totally convinced he was 310 00:09:37,230 --> 00:09:37,490 totally convinced he was innocent. 311 00:09:37,490 --> 00:09:38,560 Innocent. >> But even without physical 312 00:09:38,560 --> 00:09:39,890 >> but even without physical evidence linking him to the 313 00:09:39,900 --> 00:09:41,230 evidence linking him to the crime, Tim hennis was about to 314 00:09:41,230 --> 00:09:49,770 crime, Tim hennis was about to go on trial for his life. 315 00:09:49,770 --> 00:09:52,740 Go on trial for his life. >>> Before he adopted the 316 00:09:52,740 --> 00:09:54,740 >>> before he adopted the eastburn's dog in may 1985 317 00:09:54,740 --> 00:09:56,440 eastburn's dog in may 1985 sergeant Tim hennis had a steady 318 00:09:56,450 --> 00:09:57,440 sergeant Tim hennis had a steady job in the military and a 319 00:09:57,450 --> 00:10:00,080 job in the military and a growing daughter he was devoted 320 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:00,250 growing daughter he was devoted to. 321 00:10:00,250 --> 00:10:01,980 To. Then hennis was arrested for the 322 00:10:01,990 --> 00:10:04,030 then hennis was arrested for the brutal murder of Katie eastburn 323 00:10:04,020 --> 00:10:07,250 brutal murder of Katie eastburn and her two little girls, aged 5 324 00:10:07,260 --> 00:10:08,560 and her two little girls, aged 5 and 3. 325 00:10:08,560 --> 00:10:10,260 And 3. Hennis' lawyer had come to 326 00:10:10,260 --> 00:10:12,630 hennis' lawyer had come to believe in his innocence. 327 00:10:12,630 --> 00:10:14,060 Believe in his innocence. >> I was totally convinced 328 00:10:14,060 --> 00:10:16,060 >> I was totally convinced watching him interact with 329 00:10:16,070 --> 00:10:17,870 watching him interact with Angela because they do have a 330 00:10:17,870 --> 00:10:18,330 Angela because they do have a beautiful marriage. 331 00:10:18,330 --> 00:10:21,070 Beautiful marriage. And watching him with his 332 00:10:21,070 --> 00:10:24,240 and watching him with his daughter, Tim is extremely good 333 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:25,210 daughter, Tim is extremely good with children. 334 00:10:25,210 --> 00:10:28,310 With children. I remember, with my children, 335 00:10:28,310 --> 00:10:29,310 I remember, with my children, how good he was. 336 00:10:29,310 --> 00:10:32,250 How good he was. >> Of the fingerprints, blood, 337 00:10:32,250 --> 00:10:35,780 >> of the fingerprints, blood, and semen found at the crime 338 00:10:35,790 --> 00:10:37,560 and semen found at the crime scene, none of it linked to 339 00:10:37,550 --> 00:10:37,780 scene, none of it linked to hennis. 340 00:10:37,790 --> 00:10:38,750 Hennis. >> Down here we didn't have the 341 00:10:38,760 --> 00:10:41,060 >> down here we didn't have the equipment and facilities that 342 00:10:41,060 --> 00:10:41,550 equipment and facilities that they had up north. 343 00:10:41,560 --> 00:10:43,190 They had up north. We had no DNA down here when the 344 00:10:43,190 --> 00:10:44,020 we had no DNA down here when the crime occurred. 345 00:10:44,030 --> 00:10:46,290 Crime occurred. I would like to have had a 346 00:10:46,300 --> 00:10:46,600 I would like to have had a fingerprint. 347 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:47,960 Fingerprint. He left a shoe or dropped 348 00:10:47,960 --> 00:10:49,100 he left a shoe or dropped something that we could tie him 349 00:10:49,100 --> 00:10:50,400 something that we could tie him to it but we thought we had 350 00:10:50,400 --> 00:10:51,300 to it but we thought we had enough to justify the case and 351 00:10:51,300 --> 00:10:57,040 enough to justify the case and the trial. 352 00:10:57,040 --> 00:11:01,240 The trial. The trial began on may 27th, 353 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:01,440 the trial began on may 27th, 1986. 354 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:03,210 1986. >> Everybody wanted in that 355 00:11:03,210 --> 00:11:03,480 >> everybody wanted in that courtroom. 356 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:05,710 Courtroom. The bailiffs a couple times had 357 00:11:05,720 --> 00:11:06,990 the bailiffs a couple times had to break up fistfights. 358 00:11:06,980 --> 00:11:11,990 To break up fistfights. >> The prosecutors called it the 359 00:11:11,990 --> 00:11:12,320 >> the prosecutors called it the sh 360 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:12,520 sh show. 361 00:11:12,520 --> 00:11:14,090 Show. They wanted to emphasize how 362 00:11:14,090 --> 00:11:16,590 they wanted to emphasize how gruesome the murder was so they 363 00:11:16,590 --> 00:11:18,060 gruesome the murder was so they built a screen that took up the 364 00:11:18,060 --> 00:11:20,630 built a screen that took up the whole wall and they took slides 365 00:11:20,630 --> 00:11:23,800 whole wall and they took slides of Kara and Erin eastburn, 5 and 366 00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:26,270 of Kara and Erin eastburn, 5 and 3-year-old little girls on an 367 00:11:26,270 --> 00:11:28,400 3-year-old little girls on an autopsy table, displayed out, no 368 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:28,670 autopsy table, displayed out, no clothes. 369 00:11:28,670 --> 00:11:29,940 Clothes. >> Tim was sitting there going, 370 00:11:29,940 --> 00:11:32,010 >> Tim was sitting there going, what do I do if he acts like 371 00:11:32,010 --> 00:11:33,810 what do I do if he acts like it's not bothering him, he looks 372 00:11:33,810 --> 00:11:36,010 it's not bothering him, he looks like he's cold-blooded killer 373 00:11:36,010 --> 00:11:37,440 like he's cold-blooded killer and if he gets emotionally 374 00:11:37,450 --> 00:11:39,850 and if he gets emotionally upset, he looks like he's 375 00:11:39,850 --> 00:11:40,350 upset, he looks like he's expressing guilt. 376 00:11:40,350 --> 00:11:42,050 Expressing guilt. What can he do? 377 00:11:42,050 --> 00:11:44,120 What can he do? >> This went on for two days. 378 00:11:44,120 --> 00:11:46,490 >> This went on for two days. Slide after slide after slide. 379 00:11:46,490 --> 00:11:49,320 Slide after slide after slide. >> Felt like I was in a slam 380 00:11:49,330 --> 00:11:51,530 >> felt like I was in a slam dunk competition with Michael 381 00:11:51,530 --> 00:11:51,760 dunk competition with Michael Jordan. 382 00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:53,590 Jordan. >> Prosecutor William vanstory 383 00:11:53,600 --> 00:11:56,700 >> prosecutor William vanstory also told the jury that hennis' 384 00:11:56,700 --> 00:11:57,600 also told the jury that hennis' motive had been sex. 385 00:11:57,600 --> 00:11:59,570 Motive had been sex. >> Tim hennis' wife was out of 386 00:11:59,570 --> 00:12:01,940 >> Tim hennis' wife was out of town, new baby, so he decided to 387 00:12:01,940 --> 00:12:03,200 town, new baby, so he decided to make a pass at the married 388 00:12:03,210 --> 00:12:04,740 make a pass at the married mother of three from whom he had 389 00:12:04,740 --> 00:12:05,410 mother of three from whom he had gotten the dog. 390 00:12:05,410 --> 00:12:06,810 Gotten the dog. That didn't go well. 391 00:12:06,810 --> 00:12:09,680 That didn't go well. >> Hennis thinks he's a player, 392 00:12:09,680 --> 00:12:12,480 >> hennis thinks he's a player, so Mrs. Eastburn said, no, he 393 00:12:12,480 --> 00:12:14,650 so Mrs. Eastburn said, no, he read this wrong, I'm just a 394 00:12:14,650 --> 00:12:15,050 read this wrong, I'm just a friendly person. 395 00:12:15,050 --> 00:12:16,350 Friendly person. With that temper of his, he lost 396 00:12:16,350 --> 00:12:24,220 with that temper of his, he lost it. 397 00:12:24,230 --> 00:12:27,690 It. >> Billy Richardson showed the 398 00:12:27,700 --> 00:12:28,600 >> Billy Richardson showed the lack of evidence to the jury but 399 00:12:28,600 --> 00:12:32,930 lack of evidence to the jury but the prosecutors argued the 400 00:12:32,940 --> 00:12:35,650 the prosecutors argued the absence of blood on his jacket 401 00:12:35,640 --> 00:12:37,400 absence of blood on his jacket was the guilt. 402 00:12:37,410 --> 00:12:38,340 Was the guilt. >> There was no blood because he 403 00:12:38,340 --> 00:12:40,070 >> there was no blood because he took the jacket to the 404 00:12:40,080 --> 00:12:40,410 took the jacket to the dry-cleaners. 405 00:12:40,410 --> 00:12:45,250 Dry-cleaners. >> The jacket was a damning 406 00:12:45,250 --> 00:12:45,680 >> the jacket was a damning piece of evidence. 407 00:12:45,680 --> 00:12:46,550 Piece of evidence. >> Richardson also undercut 408 00:12:46,550 --> 00:12:48,680 >> Richardson also undercut eyewitness pat cone who ID'd 409 00:12:48,680 --> 00:12:50,650 eyewitness pat cone who ID'd hennis leaving the home. 410 00:12:50,650 --> 00:12:52,350 Hennis leaving the home. They videotaped pat cone during 411 00:12:52,360 --> 00:12:53,600 they videotaped pat cone during the tour of the crime scene. 412 00:12:53,590 --> 00:12:54,590 The tour of the crime scene. >> When you start listening to 413 00:12:54,590 --> 00:12:57,620 >> when you start listening to his story he's all over the 414 00:12:57,630 --> 00:12:57,860 his story he's all over the place. 415 00:12:57,860 --> 00:12:59,330 Place. >> Bought my girlfriend some 416 00:12:59,330 --> 00:12:59,530 >> bought my girlfriend some roses. 417 00:12:59,530 --> 00:13:00,760 Roses. >> You bought her some Rose on 418 00:13:00,760 --> 00:13:00,990 >> you bought her some Rose on sunday? 419 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:04,230 Sunday? >> No, it wasn't roses candy. 420 00:13:04,230 --> 00:13:04,500 >> No, it wasn't roses candy. Candy. 421 00:13:04,500 --> 00:13:04,960 Candy. Not roses. 422 00:13:04,970 --> 00:13:06,300 Not roses. >> We started asking are you 423 00:13:06,300 --> 00:13:07,030 >> we started asking are you sure about this? 424 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:08,370 Sure about this? He said, now I'm out here 425 00:13:08,370 --> 00:13:11,600 he said, now I'm out here looking at it, you're right, I 426 00:13:11,610 --> 00:13:12,370 looking at it, you're right, I probably couldn't see all this. 427 00:13:12,380 --> 00:13:14,650 Probably couldn't see all this. >> No, no, no, no, no, I can't 428 00:13:14,640 --> 00:13:14,910 >> no, no, no, no, no, I can't say that. 429 00:13:14,910 --> 00:13:16,580 Say that. >> On the witness stand cone 430 00:13:16,580 --> 00:13:17,980 >> on the witness stand cone cast aside any doubts. 431 00:13:17,980 --> 00:13:19,010 Cast aside any doubts. >> Cone said these lawyers have 432 00:13:19,020 --> 00:13:20,220 >> cone said these lawyers have been tricking me, they've been 433 00:13:20,220 --> 00:13:20,780 been tricking me, they've been pressuring me. 434 00:13:20,780 --> 00:13:23,250 Pressuring me. I know I picked out the right 435 00:13:23,250 --> 00:13:23,580 I know I picked out the right guy. 436 00:13:23,590 --> 00:13:25,320 Guy. >> Finally prosecutors presented 437 00:13:25,320 --> 00:13:27,220 >> finally prosecutors presented a surprise witness, a woman who 438 00:13:27,220 --> 00:13:29,420 a surprise witness, a woman who said that two days after the 439 00:13:29,430 --> 00:13:31,470 said that two days after the murder she had seen the killer 440 00:13:31,460 --> 00:13:33,390 murder she had seen the killer using Katie eastburn's stolen 441 00:13:33,400 --> 00:13:33,790 using Katie eastburn's stolen bank card. 442 00:13:33,800 --> 00:13:36,930 Bank card. >> All of a sudden the state 443 00:13:36,930 --> 00:13:38,600 >> all of a sudden the state introduced Lucille cook, little 444 00:13:38,600 --> 00:13:39,400 introduced Lucille cook, little old lady. 445 00:13:39,400 --> 00:13:40,830 Old lady. Used a card on Saturday morning 446 00:13:40,840 --> 00:13:42,040 used a card on Saturday morning after the killer did. 447 00:13:42,040 --> 00:13:44,800 After the killer did. >> She had told US she couldn't 448 00:13:44,810 --> 00:13:45,070 >> she had told US she couldn't remember. 449 00:13:45,070 --> 00:13:46,470 Remember. She said, I didn't tell you the 450 00:13:46,480 --> 00:13:47,150 she said, I didn't tell you the truth the first time. 451 00:13:47,140 --> 00:13:49,380 Truth the first time. >> There was a big tall white 452 00:13:49,380 --> 00:13:53,610 >> there was a big tall white man, mustache, blond headed guy 453 00:13:53,620 --> 00:13:55,150 man, mustache, blond headed guy and he got in that tiny car. 454 00:13:55,150 --> 00:13:56,350 And he got in that tiny car. >> That was the man that used 455 00:13:56,350 --> 00:13:58,180 >> that was the man that used the car right before I did. 456 00:13:58,190 --> 00:13:59,090 The car right before I did. Pointed to Tim hennis. 457 00:13:59,090 --> 00:14:01,550 Pointed to Tim hennis. The jury is sitting there 458 00:14:01,560 --> 00:14:02,260 the jury is sitting there looking at her. 459 00:14:02,260 --> 00:14:04,690 Looking at her. After she testified, I went into 460 00:14:04,690 --> 00:14:08,390 after she testified, I went into the bathroom and just threw up. 461 00:14:08,400 --> 00:14:10,700 The bathroom and just threw up. >> The jury deliberated for 462 00:14:10,700 --> 00:14:12,430 >> the jury deliberated for three days. 463 00:14:12,440 --> 00:14:14,580 Three days. >> It was a quarter of 5:00 on a 464 00:14:14,570 --> 00:14:17,670 >> it was a quarter of 5:00 on a Friday afternoon and the jury 465 00:14:17,670 --> 00:14:17,900 Friday afternoon and the jury knocked. 466 00:14:17,910 --> 00:14:21,270 Knocked. He was guilty on three counts. 467 00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:26,210 He was guilty on three counts. He would get death penalty, 468 00:14:26,220 --> 00:14:27,290 he would get death penalty, times three. 469 00:14:27,280 --> 00:14:29,450 Times three. Tim hennis could hear his father 470 00:14:29,450 --> 00:14:30,280 Tim hennis could hear his father sobbing in the courtroom. 471 00:14:30,290 --> 00:14:31,720 Sobbing in the courtroom. He had never heard that before. 472 00:14:31,720 --> 00:14:33,620 He had never heard that before. >> When that jury said he's 473 00:14:33,620 --> 00:14:35,120 >> when that jury said he's guilty, you still had faith that 474 00:14:35,120 --> 00:14:36,620 guilty, you still had faith that he was telling the truth? 475 00:14:36,630 --> 00:14:38,420 He was telling the truth? >> Always. 476 00:14:38,430 --> 00:14:38,830 >> Always. Never once. 477 00:14:38,830 --> 00:14:39,990 Never once. >> Not a doubt in your mind? 478 00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:44,960 >> Not a doubt in your mind? >> No. 479 00:14:44,970 --> 00:14:45,160 >> No. Never. 480 00:14:45,170 --> 00:14:46,500 Never. >> That time I felt like I did 481 00:14:46,500 --> 00:14:49,070 >> that time I felt like I did what for god, I got our man and 482 00:14:49,070 --> 00:14:49,700 what for god, I got our man and it felt good. 483 00:14:49,710 --> 00:14:52,180 It felt good. This is the one case that truly 484 00:14:52,170 --> 00:14:53,040 this is the one case that truly screamed out for the death 485 00:14:53,040 --> 00:15:02,350 screamed out for the death penalty. 486 00:15:02,350 --> 00:15:04,120 Penalty. >> Tim hennis had spent his 487 00:15:04,120 --> 00:15:06,790 >> Tim hennis had spent his entire career serving the 488 00:15:06,790 --> 00:15:07,050 entire career serving the military. 489 00:15:07,060 --> 00:15:11,190 Military. Now he was serving time on death 490 00:15:11,190 --> 00:15:11,490 now he was serving time on death row. 491 00:15:11,490 --> 00:15:14,160 Row. But not long after his arrival 492 00:15:14,160 --> 00:15:14,930 but not long after his arrival hennis received a mysterious 493 00:15:14,930 --> 00:15:15,160 hennis received a mysterious letter. 494 00:15:15,160 --> 00:15:17,600 Letter. >> Said, Mr. Hennis, I did the 495 00:15:17,600 --> 00:15:17,830 >> said, Mr. Hennis, I did the crime. 496 00:15:17,830 --> 00:15:21,900 Crime. You're doing the time. 497 00:15:21,900 --> 00:15:22,540 You're doing the time. Mr. X. 498 00:15:22,540 --> 00:15:25,240 Mr. X. >> The letter provided no 499 00:15:25,240 --> 00:15:28,040 >> the letter provided no concrete leads, only adding to 500 00:15:28,040 --> 00:15:28,910 concrete leads, only adding to hennis' torment. 501 00:15:28,910 --> 00:15:30,940 Hennis' torment. >> He got visits from his family 502 00:15:30,950 --> 00:15:33,310 >> he got visits from his family and his daughter is now 2 1/2 503 00:15:33,320 --> 00:15:34,250 and his daughter is now 2 1/2 years old. 504 00:15:34,250 --> 00:15:35,950 Years old. And she would bang her hands on 505 00:15:35,950 --> 00:15:38,520 and she would bang her hands on the plexiglas and say, open it, 506 00:15:38,520 --> 00:15:41,120 the plexiglas and say, open it, daddy, open it. 507 00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:42,060 Daddy, open it. Why won't it open? 508 00:15:42,060 --> 00:15:45,160 Why won't it open? >> Billy Richardson felt 509 00:15:45,160 --> 00:15:47,390 >> Billy Richardson felt responsible for his client's 510 00:15:47,400 --> 00:15:48,530 responsible for his client's predicam 511 00:15:48,530 --> 00:15:48,860 predicam predicament. 512 00:15:48,860 --> 00:15:49,960 Predicament. >> We did not do as good a job 513 00:15:49,970 --> 00:15:51,300 >> we did not do as good a job as we were capable of doing. 514 00:15:51,300 --> 00:15:53,330 As we were capable of doing. I made up my mind then and there 515 00:15:53,340 --> 00:15:54,600 I made up my mind then and there I was going to become the lawyer 516 00:15:54,600 --> 00:15:55,440 I was going to become the lawyer I was supposed to be. 517 00:15:55,440 --> 00:15:56,640 I was supposed to be. I got off my butt and went to 518 00:15:56,640 --> 00:15:59,870 I got off my butt and went to work. 519 00:15:59,880 --> 00:16:01,950 Work. >> Richardson and his partner 520 00:16:01,940 --> 00:16:04,440 >> Richardson and his partner quickly filed an appeal to the 521 00:16:04,450 --> 00:16:05,040 quickly filed an appeal to the north Carolina supreme court. 522 00:16:05,050 --> 00:16:07,750 North Carolina supreme court. They had to decide what to 523 00:16:07,750 --> 00:16:09,580 they had to decide what to emphasize, from mishandling 524 00:16:09,590 --> 00:16:10,260 emphasize, from mishandling evidence to possible perjury. 525 00:16:10,250 --> 00:16:14,220 Evidence to possible perjury. >> They quickly settled on the 526 00:16:14,220 --> 00:16:14,520 >> they quickly settled on the photographs. 527 00:16:14,520 --> 00:16:15,920 Photographs. >> That presentation was thought 528 00:16:15,930 --> 00:16:18,740 >> that presentation was thought to have riled up the jury and it 529 00:16:18,730 --> 00:16:20,730 to have riled up the jury and it was pointed at him over and 530 00:16:20,730 --> 00:16:20,930 was pointed at him over and over. 531 00:16:20,930 --> 00:16:21,830 Over. See this picture? 532 00:16:21,830 --> 00:16:22,700 See this picture? He did it. 533 00:16:22,700 --> 00:16:23,700 He did it. See this picture? 534 00:16:23,700 --> 00:16:25,000 See this picture? He did it. 535 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:26,730 He did it. >> Our state supreme court 536 00:16:26,740 --> 00:16:28,700 >> our state supreme court didn't just read the appeal 537 00:16:28,700 --> 00:16:30,170 didn't just read the appeal briefs, they got a slide 538 00:16:30,170 --> 00:16:31,670 briefs, they got a slide projector and saw the show for 539 00:16:31,670 --> 00:16:31,970 projector and saw the show for themselves. 540 00:16:31,970 --> 00:16:34,470 Themselves. And within 22 days, they said, 541 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:36,940 and within 22 days, they said, let's give him another trial. 542 00:16:36,950 --> 00:16:38,380 Let's give him another trial. >> It just broke all of our 543 00:16:38,380 --> 00:16:39,850 >> it just broke all of our hearts because we had to 544 00:16:39,850 --> 00:16:41,880 hearts because we had to calgary, say, you've got to go 545 00:16:41,880 --> 00:16:43,080 calgary, say, you've got to go through this one more time. 546 00:16:43,090 --> 00:16:44,890 Through this one more time. >> Billy Richardson 547 00:16:44,890 --> 00:16:46,620 >> Billy Richardson reinvestigated every aspect of 548 00:16:46,620 --> 00:16:47,450 reinvestigated every aspect of the case. 549 00:16:47,460 --> 00:16:48,990 The case. >> We were so much better 550 00:16:48,990 --> 00:16:50,760 >> we were so much better prepared for the second trial. 551 00:16:50,760 --> 00:16:53,330 Prepared for the second trial. When I started digging, we found 552 00:16:53,330 --> 00:16:55,060 when I started digging, we found how many things we didn't know 553 00:16:55,060 --> 00:16:56,000 how many things we didn't know at the first trial. 554 00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:58,300 At the first trial. >> Richardson began with hennis' 555 00:16:58,300 --> 00:17:01,600 >> Richardson began with hennis' alibi for the night after the 556 00:17:01,600 --> 00:17:01,830 alibi for the night after the murder. 557 00:17:01,840 --> 00:17:05,000 Murder. When someone used eastburn's 558 00:17:05,010 --> 00:17:05,300 when someone used eastburn's bank card. 559 00:17:05,310 --> 00:17:08,780 Bank card. >> He had 24-hour duty with ft. 560 00:17:08,780 --> 00:17:10,510 >> He had 24-hour duty with ft. Bragg for his duty, he couldn't 561 00:17:10,510 --> 00:17:10,710 bragg for his duty, he couldn't leave. 562 00:17:10,710 --> 00:17:12,650 Leave. >> People in his division 563 00:17:12,650 --> 00:17:13,910 >> people in his division remembered him gluing shingles 564 00:17:13,920 --> 00:17:16,480 remembered him gluing shingles on a doll house for his infant 565 00:17:16,490 --> 00:17:16,760 on a doll house for his infant daughter. 566 00:17:16,750 --> 00:17:18,920 Daughter. >> Army paperwork would have 567 00:17:18,920 --> 00:17:21,220 >> army paperwork would have confirmed hennis' whereabouts 568 00:17:21,220 --> 00:17:21,820 confirmed hennis' whereabouts had gone missing before the 569 00:17:21,820 --> 00:17:22,360 had gone missing before the first trial. 570 00:17:22,360 --> 00:17:23,820 First trial. >> Army, paperwork is 571 00:17:23,830 --> 00:17:24,120 >> army, paperwork is everything. 572 00:17:24,130 --> 00:17:25,460 Everything. They have paperwork for 573 00:17:25,460 --> 00:17:25,830 they have paperwork for paperwork. 574 00:17:25,830 --> 00:17:27,430 Paperwork. We look for it and look for it. 575 00:17:27,430 --> 00:17:29,230 We look for it and look for it. There was a checkout sheet for 576 00:17:29,230 --> 00:17:30,230 there was a checkout sheet for every day but that day. 577 00:17:30,230 --> 00:17:32,630 Every day but that day. The prosecutor had a field day. 578 00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:34,910 The prosecutor had a field day. >> But before the second trial, 579 00:17:34,900 --> 00:17:36,570 >> but before the second trial, Richardson discovered why the 580 00:17:36,570 --> 00:17:37,970 Richardson discovered why the paperwork had gone missing. 581 00:17:37,970 --> 00:17:39,240 Paperwork had gone missing. >> The reason they couldn't find 582 00:17:39,240 --> 00:17:40,610 >> the reason they couldn't find it is because the prosecutors 583 00:17:40,610 --> 00:17:41,170 it is because the prosecutors had it. 584 00:17:41,180 --> 00:17:43,740 Had it. They didn't make a copy of it 585 00:17:43,750 --> 00:17:45,240 they didn't make a copy of it and leave it, they just took it. 586 00:17:45,250 --> 00:17:46,910 And leave it, they just took it. So this piece of evidence that 587 00:17:46,920 --> 00:17:48,510 so this piece of evidence that probably would have exonerated 588 00:17:48,520 --> 00:17:52,020 probably would have exonerated him in 1986 was kept in the 589 00:17:52,020 --> 00:17:53,590 him in 1986 was kept in the prosecutor's custody all that 590 00:17:53,590 --> 00:17:54,090 prosecutor's custody all that time. 591 00:17:54,090 --> 00:17:56,290 Time. >> Richardson also uncovered 592 00:17:56,290 --> 00:17:58,390 >> Richardson also uncovered information that would undermine 593 00:17:58,390 --> 00:17:59,090 information that would undermine eyewitness pat cone. 594 00:17:59,100 --> 00:18:00,900 Eyewitness pat cone. >> Pat cone had helped them out 595 00:18:00,900 --> 00:18:01,990 >> pat cone had helped them out in between trials. 596 00:18:02,000 --> 00:18:04,730 In between trials. He was arrested using a stolen 597 00:18:04,730 --> 00:18:05,230 he was arrested using a stolen bank card. 598 00:18:05,230 --> 00:18:06,870 Bank card. On another occasion, Patrick 599 00:18:06,870 --> 00:18:09,070 on another occasion, Patrick cone was drinking and disruptive 600 00:18:09,070 --> 00:18:11,670 cone was drinking and disruptive and the state dropped the case. 601 00:18:11,670 --> 00:18:14,270 And the state dropped the case. He was known to tell people that 602 00:18:14,280 --> 00:18:15,610 he was known to tell people that the state couldn't touch him 603 00:18:15,610 --> 00:18:17,810 the state couldn't touch him because he was a prime witness. 604 00:18:17,810 --> 00:18:20,210 Because he was a prime witness. >> Pat is not a strong-willed 605 00:18:20,220 --> 00:18:20,450 >> pat is not a strong-willed person. 606 00:18:20,450 --> 00:18:21,450 Person. Nice guy. 607 00:18:21,450 --> 00:18:22,320 Nice guy. Don't misunderstand me. 608 00:18:22,320 --> 00:18:24,280 Don't misunderstand me. But he got in a little bit of 609 00:18:24,290 --> 00:18:24,520 but he got in a little bit of trouble. 610 00:18:24,520 --> 00:18:25,520 Trouble. They were just minor things. 611 00:18:25,520 --> 00:18:27,650 They were just minor things. >> Still, Richardson wasn't sure 612 00:18:27,660 --> 00:18:29,490 >> still, Richardson wasn't sure he could convince the jury that 613 00:18:29,490 --> 00:18:31,860 he could convince the jury that cone had lied about seeing 614 00:18:31,860 --> 00:18:34,290 cone had lied about seeing hennis, until a new piece of 615 00:18:34,300 --> 00:18:35,190 hennis, until a new piece of evidence was found literally 616 00:18:35,200 --> 00:18:45,140 evidence was found literally lying on the sidewalk. 617 00:18:45,140 --> 00:18:48,770 Lying on the sidewalk. >>> As defense attorney Billy 618 00:18:48,780 --> 00:18:49,610 >>> as defense attorney Billy Richardson prepared for the 619 00:18:49,610 --> 00:18:51,240 Richardson prepared for the retrial of Tim hennis new 620 00:18:51,250 --> 00:18:52,750 retrial of Tim hennis new evidence turned up on a 621 00:18:52,750 --> 00:18:53,250 evidence turned up on a fayetteville sidewalk. 622 00:18:53,250 --> 00:18:54,910 Fayetteville sidewalk. >> The deputy picked up the 623 00:18:54,920 --> 00:18:57,280 >> the deputy picked up the wallet noted that it had a 624 00:18:57,290 --> 00:18:58,650 wallet noted that it had a letter in it. 625 00:18:58,650 --> 00:19:00,090 Letter in it. And we kept hearing that the 626 00:19:00,090 --> 00:19:01,320 and we kept hearing that the letter said Tim didn't do it. 627 00:19:01,320 --> 00:19:03,060 Letter said Tim didn't do it. You keep hearing rumors like 628 00:19:03,060 --> 00:19:03,290 you keep hearing rumors like that. 629 00:19:03,290 --> 00:19:05,320 That. >> Billy goes to the sheriff's 630 00:19:05,330 --> 00:19:07,560 >> Billy goes to the sheriff's department and has to pretend 631 00:19:07,560 --> 00:19:08,560 department and has to pretend he's investigating another case 632 00:19:08,560 --> 00:19:10,630 he's investigating another case because if he let on he was 633 00:19:10,630 --> 00:19:11,630 because if he let on he was investigating this case it would 634 00:19:11,630 --> 00:19:13,070 investigating this case it would have set off all kinds of bells 635 00:19:13,070 --> 00:19:14,370 have set off all kinds of bells and whistles. 636 00:19:14,370 --> 00:19:16,540 And whistles. >> Sure enough the lost wallet 637 00:19:16,540 --> 00:19:18,500 >> sure enough the lost wallet belonged to a felony. 638 00:19:18,510 --> 00:19:19,870 Belonged to a felony. >> Shawn Buckner was a close 639 00:19:19,880 --> 00:19:20,820 >> Shawn Buckner was a close friend of pat cone. 640 00:19:20,810 --> 00:19:22,310 Friend of pat cone. The prosecutor's star witness. 641 00:19:22,310 --> 00:19:25,750 The prosecutor's star witness. The letter and Buckner's lost 642 00:19:25,750 --> 00:19:27,350 the letter and Buckner's lost wallet called cone's testimony 643 00:19:27,350 --> 00:19:27,710 wallet called cone's testimony into question. 644 00:19:27,720 --> 00:19:31,180 Into question. >> That letter talks about pat's 645 00:19:31,190 --> 00:19:31,450 >> that letter talks about pat's doubts. 646 00:19:31,450 --> 00:19:34,220 Doubts. Pat kind of hoped Shawn Buckner 647 00:19:34,220 --> 00:19:39,660 pat kind of hoped Shawn Buckner and his fiance about his doubts 648 00:19:39,660 --> 00:19:40,290 and his fiance about his doubts to the point where they wrote 649 00:19:40,300 --> 00:19:42,560 to the point where they wrote each other a letter about it. 650 00:19:42,570 --> 00:19:43,510 Each other a letter about it. >> Richardson flew to Louisiana 651 00:19:43,500 --> 00:19:46,000 >> Richardson flew to Louisiana where Buckner was training in 652 00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:48,530 where Buckner was training in the air force when he got there 653 00:19:48,540 --> 00:19:50,040 the air force when he got there Buckner closed the door on his 654 00:19:50,040 --> 00:19:50,240 Buckner closed the door on his face. 655 00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:51,540 Face. >> He didn't want to get 656 00:19:51,540 --> 00:19:51,800 >> he didn't want to get involved. 657 00:19:51,810 --> 00:19:54,270 Involved. >> Shawn Buckner didn't know 658 00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:56,410 >> Shawn Buckner didn't know whether to betray his friend or 659 00:19:56,410 --> 00:19:57,240 whether to betray his friend or help free someone. 660 00:19:57,250 --> 00:19:58,540 Help free someone. It was a tough one. 661 00:19:58,550 --> 00:20:00,410 It was a tough one. Shawn Buckner had no reason to 662 00:20:00,420 --> 00:20:01,280 Shawn Buckner had no reason to help Tim hennis. 663 00:20:01,280 --> 00:20:04,120 Help Tim hennis. >> Richardson came home empty 664 00:20:04,120 --> 00:20:06,220 >> Richardson came home empty handed, hoping Buckner would 665 00:20:06,220 --> 00:20:10,290 handed, hoping Buckner would eventually change his mind. 666 00:20:10,290 --> 00:20:12,860 Eventually change his mind. The retrial of Timothy hennis 667 00:20:12,860 --> 00:20:16,200 the retrial of Timothy hennis began on February 27th, 1989. 668 00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:17,300 Began on February 27th, 1989. Almost four years after the 669 00:20:17,300 --> 00:20:20,000 almost four years after the brutal murders of Gary 670 00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:21,770 brutal murders of Gary eastburn's wife and daughters. 671 00:20:21,770 --> 00:20:23,940 Eastburn's wife and daughters. >> The state went into a replay 672 00:20:23,940 --> 00:20:24,800 >> the state went into a replay of trial one. 673 00:20:24,810 --> 00:20:26,610 Of trial one. Meanwhile the defense had an 674 00:20:26,610 --> 00:20:27,470 meanwhile the defense had an entirery different case. 675 00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:29,510 Entirery different case. >> This time hennis would 676 00:20:29,510 --> 00:20:29,780 >> this time hennis would testify. 677 00:20:29,780 --> 00:20:32,080 Testify. >> We just really drill him. 678 00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:33,680 >> We just really drill him. Filmed him and let him watch it. 679 00:20:33,680 --> 00:20:37,050 Filmed him and let him watch it. >> Did you kill these three 680 00:20:37,050 --> 00:20:37,280 >> did you kill these three people? 681 00:20:37,290 --> 00:20:39,490 People? >> No, I did not kill these 682 00:20:39,490 --> 00:20:39,720 >> no, I did not kill these people. 683 00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:41,750 People. I have a daughter of my own and 684 00:20:41,760 --> 00:20:43,390 I have a daughter of my own and I could not hurt any children at 685 00:20:43,390 --> 00:20:43,560 I could not hurt any children at all. 686 00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:45,090 All. >> Did you do this crime? 687 00:20:45,090 --> 00:20:47,090 >> Did you do this crime? >> No, I did not. 688 00:20:47,100 --> 00:20:49,200 >> No, I did not. >> We felt if Tim showed rage or 689 00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:51,030 >> we felt if Tim showed rage or emotion the jury would say, 690 00:20:51,030 --> 00:20:52,430 emotion the jury would say, look, there you can see he can 691 00:20:52,430 --> 00:20:53,270 look, there you can see he can get to this point. 692 00:20:53,270 --> 00:20:54,630 Get to this point. >> How does all of this make you 693 00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:55,030 >> how does all of this make you feel if. 694 00:20:55,040 --> 00:20:58,300 Feel if. >> Extremely upset and angry. 695 00:20:58,310 --> 00:21:00,270 >> Extremely upset and angry. >> On cross-examination the 696 00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:01,410 >> on cross-examination the prosecutor confronted hennis 697 00:21:01,410 --> 00:21:03,610 prosecutor confronted hennis with the alleged motive for the 698 00:21:03,610 --> 00:21:03,840 with the alleged motive for the murder. 699 00:21:03,850 --> 00:21:05,850 Murder. >> The prosecutor says, you lost 700 00:21:05,850 --> 00:21:06,650 >> the prosecutor says, you lost your cool. 701 00:21:06,650 --> 00:21:07,980 Your cool. And went in there and tried to 702 00:21:07,980 --> 00:21:10,020 and went in there and tried to have sex with her and when she 703 00:21:10,020 --> 00:21:11,980 have sex with her and when she refused, you snapped and killed 704 00:21:11,990 --> 00:21:12,150 refused, you snapped and killed her. 705 00:21:12,150 --> 00:21:14,350 Her. >> They were trying to provoke 706 00:21:14,360 --> 00:21:16,590 >> they were trying to provoke Tim hennis on the stand and he 707 00:21:16,590 --> 00:21:18,190 Tim hennis on the stand and he had to call me, no, I did not. 708 00:21:18,190 --> 00:21:18,790 Had to call me, no, I did not. No, I did not. 709 00:21:18,790 --> 00:21:20,730 No, I did not. He said, I never had sex with 710 00:21:20,730 --> 00:21:21,560 he said, I never had sex with that woman. 711 00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:22,560 That woman. That never happened. 712 00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:24,160 That never happened. >> When it was over we had not 713 00:21:24,170 --> 00:21:25,870 >> when it was over we had not got the reaction I wanted to. 714 00:21:25,870 --> 00:21:27,270 Got the reaction I wanted to. See him in a different light 715 00:21:27,270 --> 00:21:28,800 see him in a different light than first jury had seen him. 716 00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:31,070 Than first jury had seen him. Made a huge difference. 717 00:21:31,070 --> 00:21:32,100 Made a huge difference. >> At the first trial the 718 00:21:32,110 --> 00:21:33,870 >> at the first trial the absence of blood on hennis' 719 00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:37,080 absence of blood on hennis' jacket had helped convict him as 720 00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:38,540 jacket had helped convict him as the state's expert insisted 721 00:21:38,550 --> 00:21:40,150 the state's expert insisted dry-cleaning had removed any 722 00:21:40,150 --> 00:21:40,880 dry-cleaning had removed any blood stains. 723 00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:42,820 Blood stains. But Richardson saw it 724 00:21:42,820 --> 00:21:43,120 but Richardson saw it differently. 725 00:21:43,120 --> 00:21:44,780 Differently. >> I talked to the dry-cleaner 726 00:21:44,790 --> 00:21:46,720 >> I talked to the dry-cleaner and he said you have to use a 727 00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:48,550 and he said you have to use a special chemical to remove 728 00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:48,750 special chemical to remove blood. 729 00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:50,320 Blood. I said, well, did you use it in 730 00:21:50,330 --> 00:21:50,820 I said, well, did you use it in this case? 731 00:21:50,830 --> 00:21:52,930 This case? He said, no. 732 00:21:52,930 --> 00:21:53,930 He said, no. I just used ordinary 733 00:21:53,930 --> 00:21:54,260 I just used ordinary dry-cleaning. 734 00:21:54,260 --> 00:21:55,160 Dry-cleaning. >> When the prosecution 735 00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:56,930 >> when the prosecution challenged the dry-cleaner's 736 00:21:56,930 --> 00:21:59,030 challenged the dry-cleaner's knowledge, Richardson was ready 737 00:21:59,030 --> 00:21:59,900 knowledge, Richardson was ready with his own expert. 738 00:21:59,900 --> 00:22:01,970 With his own expert. >> The chemist got a members 739 00:22:01,970 --> 00:22:03,500 >> the chemist got a members only jacket. 740 00:22:03,510 --> 00:22:04,680 Only jacket. Put some blood on it and took 741 00:22:04,670 --> 00:22:07,440 put some blood on it and took the jacket to a dry-cleaner and 742 00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:08,970 the jacket to a dry-cleaner and ran a luminol test on the jacket 743 00:22:08,980 --> 00:22:10,710 ran a luminol test on the jacket and it gloed as bright as can 744 00:22:10,710 --> 00:22:12,040 and it gloed as bright as can be, still there. 745 00:22:12,050 --> 00:22:14,350 Be, still there. >> Hennis' members only jacket 746 00:22:14,350 --> 00:22:15,050 >> hennis' members only jacket on the other hand had no signs 747 00:22:15,050 --> 00:22:16,020 on the other hand had no signs of blood. 748 00:22:16,020 --> 00:22:18,420 Of blood. Richardson had turned the 749 00:22:18,420 --> 00:22:20,120 Richardson had turned the prosecution's evidence against 750 00:22:20,120 --> 00:22:20,820 prosecution's evidence against them. 751 00:22:20,820 --> 00:22:23,690 Them. Richardson was also prepared for 752 00:22:23,690 --> 00:22:25,560 Richardson was also prepared for Lucille cook who swoer she saw 753 00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:28,590 Lucille cook who swoer she saw hennis at an atm two days after 754 00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:28,890 hennis at an atm two days after the murder. 755 00:22:28,900 --> 00:22:32,300 The murder. >> Lucille cook had made dozens 756 00:22:32,300 --> 00:22:34,270 >> Lucille cook had made dozens and dozens of atm transactions 757 00:22:34,270 --> 00:22:35,570 and dozens of atm transactions around the time of this one. 758 00:22:35,570 --> 00:22:37,040 Around the time of this one. I asked her, can you remember 759 00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:37,740 I asked her, can you remember any of those? 760 00:22:37,740 --> 00:22:38,700 Any of those? Of course she could not. 761 00:22:38,710 --> 00:22:40,940 Of course she could not. >> Bank logs also showed a 3 1/2 762 00:22:40,940 --> 00:22:42,340 >> bank logs also showed a 3 1/2 minute gap between the victim's 763 00:22:42,340 --> 00:22:45,180 minute gap between the victim's card being used and Lucille 764 00:22:45,180 --> 00:22:45,680 card being used and Lucille cook's transaction. 765 00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:47,750 Cook's transaction. >> That doesn't seem like a lot 766 00:22:47,750 --> 00:22:49,680 >> that doesn't seem like a lot of time until you sit there and 767 00:22:49,690 --> 00:22:50,290 of time until you sit there and time it. 768 00:22:50,290 --> 00:22:53,460 Time it. We had the jury sit there to see 769 00:22:53,460 --> 00:22:58,730 we had the jury sit there to see how long it was. 770 00:22:58,730 --> 00:23:03,360 How long it was. >> It was the longest 3 1/2 771 00:23:03,370 --> 00:23:03,610 >> it was the longest 3 1/2 minutes. 772 00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:05,030 Minutes. >> Why would the killer wait 773 00:23:05,030 --> 00:23:08,230 >> why would the killer wait 3 1/2 minutes until someone sees 774 00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:08,400 3 1/2 minutes until someone sees him? 775 00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:10,770 Him? One of the jurors said they got 776 00:23:10,770 --> 00:23:13,840 one of the jurors said they got in the jury room and laughed at 777 00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:14,040 in the jury room and laughed at her. 778 00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:14,910 Her. >> Now it was time for rich 779 00:23:14,910 --> 00:23:15,980 >> now it was time for rich Richardson to go after the 780 00:23:15,980 --> 00:23:18,810 Richardson to go after the state's star witness, pat cone. 781 00:23:18,810 --> 00:23:21,350 State's star witness, pat cone. After some soul searching, Shawn 782 00:23:21,350 --> 00:23:22,650 after some soul searching, Shawn Buckner agreed to testify 783 00:23:22,650 --> 00:23:24,620 Buckner agreed to testify against his old friend. 784 00:23:24,620 --> 00:23:26,620 Against his old friend. >> He testified that pat cone 785 00:23:26,620 --> 00:23:28,320 >> he testified that pat cone was extremely drunk that night, 786 00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:29,920 was extremely drunk that night, that in addition to that he had 787 00:23:29,930 --> 00:23:31,500 that in addition to that he had doubts about what he saw. 788 00:23:31,490 --> 00:23:34,060 Doubts about what he saw. >> Patrick had told Shawn 789 00:23:34,060 --> 00:23:35,290 >> Patrick had told Shawn Buckner, I feel like I'm sending 790 00:23:35,300 --> 00:23:36,760 Buckner, I feel like I'm sending an innocent man to prison. 791 00:23:36,770 --> 00:23:38,740 An innocent man to prison. >> But Richardson knew he had to 792 00:23:38,730 --> 00:23:40,600 >> but Richardson knew he had to answer one last question. 793 00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:41,970 Answer one last question. >> In the back of their mind, 794 00:23:41,970 --> 00:23:43,540 >> in the back of their mind, the jury still saying, well, the 795 00:23:43,540 --> 00:23:44,100 the jury still saying, well, the kids saw something. 796 00:23:44,110 --> 00:23:45,640 Kids saw something. If it wasn't your client, who 797 00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:46,040 if it wasn't your client, who was it? 798 00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:49,810 Was it? >> So Richardson called his next 799 00:23:49,810 --> 00:23:50,080 >> so Richardson called his next witness. 800 00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:51,780 Witness. >> The back doors burst open and 801 00:23:51,780 --> 00:23:53,150 >> the back doors burst open and everyone in the courtroom turned 802 00:23:53,150 --> 00:23:53,810 everyone in the courtroom turned and looked around. 803 00:23:53,820 --> 00:23:56,250 And looked around. The prosecutor says, who is 804 00:23:56,250 --> 00:23:56,450 the prosecutor says, who is that? 805 00:23:56,450 --> 00:23:58,620 That? >> That was as close to a Perry 806 00:23:58,620 --> 00:24:00,820 >> that was as close to a Perry Mason moment as I've ever had. 807 00:24:00,820 --> 00:24:03,060 Mason moment as I've ever had. >> The lead detective says, 808 00:24:03,060 --> 00:24:09,700 >> the lead detective says, we'r 809 00:24:09,700 --> 00:24:11,660 we'r >>> defense attorney Billy 810 00:24:11,670 --> 00:24:12,830 >>> defense attorney Billy Richardson had always wondered 811 00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:17,010 Richardson had always wondered if it wasn't Tim hennis, who did 812 00:24:17,010 --> 00:24:20,680 if it wasn't Tim hennis, who did eyewitness pat cone see near the 813 00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:22,640 eyewitness pat cone see near the home on the night of the 814 00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:22,880 home on the night of the murders. 815 00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:25,850 Murders. >> Billy was going door to door, 816 00:24:25,850 --> 00:24:26,510 >> Billy was going door to door, every neighbor. 817 00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:27,860 Every neighbor. Why don't you talk to that kid 818 00:24:27,850 --> 00:24:28,280 why don't you talk to that kid across the street. 819 00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:29,580 Across the street. >> I see that fella all the 820 00:24:29,590 --> 00:24:29,790 >> I see that fella all the time. 821 00:24:29,790 --> 00:24:31,430 Time. He walks the neighborhood all 822 00:24:31,420 --> 00:24:31,780 he walks the neighborhood all the time. 823 00:24:31,790 --> 00:24:33,050 The time. >> They didn't know who he was. 824 00:24:33,060 --> 00:24:35,970 >> They didn't know who he was. So Billy did a vigil, became 825 00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:37,760 so Billy did a vigil, became this quest for this myth call 826 00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:38,860 this quest for this myth call figure of the Walker. 827 00:24:38,860 --> 00:24:40,830 Figure of the Walker. >> You cannot win your case 828 00:24:40,830 --> 00:24:42,530 >> you cannot win your case sitting in your office so I sat 829 00:24:42,530 --> 00:24:43,730 sitting in your office so I sat out there for six weeks. 830 00:24:43,730 --> 00:24:47,230 Out there for six weeks. >> Richardson even hoped he 831 00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:48,600 >> Richardson even hoped he might find the real perp 832 00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:50,670 might find the real perp perpetrator but he came up empty 833 00:24:50,670 --> 00:24:50,940 perpetrator but he came up empty handed. 834 00:24:50,940 --> 00:24:53,040 Handed. Then before the second trial 835 00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:54,810 then before the second trial Richardson hired an investigator 836 00:24:54,810 --> 00:24:56,510 Richardson hired an investigator to renew the search. 837 00:24:56,510 --> 00:24:59,350 To renew the search. And finally, they found their 838 00:24:59,350 --> 00:24:59,910 and finally, they found their mystery man. 839 00:24:59,920 --> 00:25:02,060 Mystery man. No murderer but a high school 840 00:25:02,050 --> 00:25:04,720 no murderer but a high school senior who worked at the local 841 00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:05,050 senior who worked at the local supermarket. 842 00:25:05,050 --> 00:25:07,550 Supermarket. >> A kid by the name of John 843 00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:10,390 >> a kid by the name of John ropa lived down street from the 844 00:25:10,390 --> 00:25:10,690 ropa lived down street from the eastburns. 845 00:25:10,690 --> 00:25:12,890 Eastburns. He was an uneasy sleeper and he 846 00:25:12,900 --> 00:25:14,170 he was an uneasy sleeper and he had a habit of walking the 847 00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:15,460 had a habit of walking the neighborhood on summerhill road 848 00:25:15,460 --> 00:25:16,700 neighborhood on summerhill road at 3:00 in the morning. 849 00:25:16,700 --> 00:25:18,600 At 3:00 in the morning. He was a big blond kid with a 850 00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:19,300 he was a big blond kid with a blond mustache. 851 00:25:19,300 --> 00:25:20,200 Blond mustache. >> It just fit. 852 00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:21,930 >> It just fit. It just fit like a glove. 853 00:25:21,940 --> 00:25:24,340 It just fit like a glove. >> During the retrial Richardson 854 00:25:24,340 --> 00:25:26,740 >> during the retrial Richardson kept his discovery from the 855 00:25:26,740 --> 00:25:27,510 kept his discovery from the prosecution. 856 00:25:27,510 --> 00:25:28,940 Prosecution. Timing the mystery Walker's 857 00:25:28,940 --> 00:25:30,640 timing the mystery Walker's entrance for maximum impact. 858 00:25:30,650 --> 00:25:35,110 Entrance for maximum impact. >> The back doors burst open, 859 00:25:35,120 --> 00:25:37,280 >> the back doors burst open, defense calls John ropa and at 860 00:25:37,290 --> 00:25:39,290 defense calls John ropa and at 3:30 in the morning you couldn't 861 00:25:39,290 --> 00:25:42,560 3:30 in the morning you couldn't help but think, could that be 862 00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:43,890 help but think, could that be who Patrick cone saw on the 863 00:25:43,890 --> 00:25:44,120 who Patrick cone saw on the road. 864 00:25:44,130 --> 00:25:45,290 Road. >> Here's another tall white 865 00:25:45,290 --> 00:25:48,330 >> here's another tall white guy, blond, walking down the 866 00:25:48,330 --> 00:25:49,360 guy, blond, walking down the street. 867 00:25:49,360 --> 00:25:50,230 Street. Lo 868 00:25:50,230 --> 00:25:50,700 lo it was effective. 869 00:25:50,700 --> 00:25:52,600 It was effective. >> It was just one of those 870 00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:56,100 >> it was just one of those magical moments in the 871 00:25:56,100 --> 00:25:56,600 magical moments in the courtroom. 872 00:25:56,610 --> 00:25:58,310 Courtroom. The jury them a reason to have 873 00:25:58,310 --> 00:25:59,140 the jury them a reason to have reasonable doubt. 874 00:25:59,140 --> 00:26:01,510 Reasonable doubt. It gave them a reason to say it 875 00:26:01,510 --> 00:26:01,810 it gave them a reason to say it wasn't Tim. 876 00:26:01,810 --> 00:26:04,080 Wasn't Tim. >> When Walker took the stand 877 00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:06,110 >> when Walker took the stand Richardson asked him what he 878 00:26:06,110 --> 00:26:07,450 Richardson asked him what he wore on his walks down 879 00:26:07,450 --> 00:26:09,180 wore on his walks down summerhill road. 880 00:26:09,180 --> 00:26:10,550 Summerhill road. >> He often wore a beanie hat 881 00:26:10,550 --> 00:26:12,650 >> he often wore a beanie hat and he had a members only 882 00:26:12,650 --> 00:26:14,050 and he had a members only jacket, black members only 883 00:26:14,060 --> 00:26:14,290 jacket, black members only jacket. 884 00:26:14,290 --> 00:26:15,960 Jacket. >> After the Walker's testimony 885 00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:18,190 >> after the Walker's testimony the defense moved to have the 886 00:26:18,190 --> 00:26:18,720 the defense moved to have the case thrown out. 887 00:26:18,730 --> 00:26:20,730 Case thrown out. >> Defense accused the 888 00:26:20,730 --> 00:26:22,430 >> defense accused the prosecution of just out right 889 00:26:22,430 --> 00:26:23,230 prosecution of just out right cheating because it turns out 890 00:26:23,230 --> 00:26:25,060 cheating because it turns out the prosecutors knew exactly who 891 00:26:25,070 --> 00:26:26,970 the prosecutors knew exactly who John ropa was. 892 00:26:26,970 --> 00:26:30,140 John ropa was. >> The state had found the guy 893 00:26:30,140 --> 00:26:30,970 >> the state had found the guy and it basically hid him from 894 00:26:30,970 --> 00:26:31,140 and it basically hid him from US. 895 00:26:31,140 --> 00:26:32,670 US. >> As the jury began 896 00:26:32,670 --> 00:26:33,870 >> as the jury began deliberating Richardson told the 897 00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:35,780 deliberating Richardson told the judge what he discovered about 898 00:26:35,780 --> 00:26:39,210 judge what he discovered about the prosecution's conduct. 899 00:26:39,210 --> 00:26:40,510 The prosecution's conduct. >> Deputy sheriff went to John 900 00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:43,230 >> deputy sheriff went to John rop, a and they brought him in 901 00:26:43,220 --> 00:26:43,850 rop, a and they brought him in and had him bring his jabt and 902 00:26:43,850 --> 00:26:44,750 and had him bring his jabt and his hat and they took it from 903 00:26:44,750 --> 00:26:45,920 his hat and they took it from him and put it in the trunk of 904 00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:47,650 him and put it in the trunk of one of the detective's cars. 905 00:26:47,660 --> 00:26:51,190 One of the detective's cars. And they returned it to John 906 00:26:51,190 --> 00:26:52,890 and they returned it to John ropa after Tim hennis was on 907 00:26:52,890 --> 00:26:54,460 ropa after Tim hennis was on death row. 908 00:26:54,460 --> 00:26:55,930 Death row. That's exactly the kind of 909 00:26:55,930 --> 00:26:57,260 that's exactly the kind of evidence in a death case that 910 00:26:57,270 --> 00:26:58,840 evidence in a death case that could have tilted it their way 911 00:26:58,830 --> 00:26:59,570 could have tilted it their way in the first trial. 912 00:26:59,570 --> 00:27:02,570 In the first trial. >> We just got plain mad at this 913 00:27:02,570 --> 00:27:02,900 >> we just got plain mad at this point. 914 00:27:02,900 --> 00:27:04,370 Point. Get slapped enough, you say, all 915 00:27:04,370 --> 00:27:05,470 get slapped enough, you say, all right, I've had enough of this. 916 00:27:05,470 --> 00:27:06,840 Right, I've had enough of this. >> It just got more incredible 917 00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:07,770 >> it just got more incredible to sit in the courtroom and 918 00:27:07,780 --> 00:27:08,870 to sit in the courtroom and watch this thing unfold. 919 00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:11,580 Watch this thing unfold. I went from thinking he's guilty 920 00:27:11,580 --> 00:27:14,650 I went from thinking he's guilty to I'm not sure a jury is going 921 00:27:14,650 --> 00:27:17,780 to I'm not sure a jury is going to be able to find him guilty 922 00:27:17,790 --> 00:27:19,750 to be able to find him guilty to, he diplomat ddn't do it and 923 00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:21,000 to, he diplomat ddn't do it and have to let him go. 924 00:27:20,990 --> 00:27:22,020 Have to let him go. Then the jury knocked. 925 00:27:22,020 --> 00:27:24,060 Then the jury knocked. >> After deliberating less than 926 00:27:24,060 --> 00:27:25,460 >> after deliberating less than three hours the jury announced 927 00:27:25,460 --> 00:27:26,760 three hours the jury announced its verdict. 928 00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:38,140 Its verdict. Not guilty on all counts. 929 00:27:38,140 --> 00:27:39,540 Not guilty on all counts. >> We all just broke down and 930 00:27:39,540 --> 00:27:41,810 >> we all just broke down and started crying because I knew 931 00:27:41,810 --> 00:27:42,680 started crying because I knew what they had been through. 932 00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:45,240 What they had been through. Next to marrying my wife, next 933 00:27:45,250 --> 00:27:48,110 next to marrying my wife, next to the birth of my children, 934 00:27:48,120 --> 00:27:48,880 to the birth of my children, that was probably the happiest 935 00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:50,050 that was probably the happiest day of my life. 936 00:27:50,050 --> 00:27:51,850 Day of my life. >> We've lived with the family 937 00:27:51,850 --> 00:27:52,990 >> we've lived with the family and felt what they've been 938 00:27:52,990 --> 00:27:54,720 and felt what they've been through and it's just a 939 00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:56,660 through and it's just a tremendous, tremendous load 940 00:27:56,660 --> 00:27:57,920 tremendous, tremendous load taken off our shoulders. 941 00:27:57,930 --> 00:28:00,630 Taken off our shoulders. >> The jurors came out and 942 00:28:00,630 --> 00:28:01,730 >> the jurors came out and hugged Tim hennis. 943 00:28:01,730 --> 00:28:04,630 Hugged Tim hennis. They were adamant they needed to 944 00:28:04,630 --> 00:28:05,530 they were adamant they needed to reinvestigate this case and quit 945 00:28:05,530 --> 00:28:06,370 reinvestigate this case and quit picking on this guy. 946 00:28:06,370 --> 00:28:08,570 Picking on this guy. >> Somebody said, why are they 947 00:28:08,570 --> 00:28:10,170 >> somebody said, why are they bothering this poor man. 948 00:28:10,170 --> 00:28:11,100 Bothering this poor man. Talking about the hennis. 949 00:28:11,110 --> 00:28:13,840 Talking about the hennis. Why are they bothering this poor 950 00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:14,310 why are they bothering this poor plan? 951 00:28:14,310 --> 00:28:15,770 Plan? Hasn't he suffered enough? 952 00:28:15,780 --> 00:28:17,810 Hasn't he suffered enough? A man that killed two men and a 953 00:28:17,810 --> 00:28:18,010 a man that killed two men and a woman. 954 00:28:18,010 --> 00:28:21,080 Woman. How much did Gary suffer the 955 00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:29,820 how much did Gary suffer the rest of his life? 956 00:28:29,830 --> 00:28:31,100 Rest of his life? >> Whether you like it or not 957 00:28:31,090 --> 00:28:32,830 >> whether you like it or not Tim is our client and if he 958 00:28:32,830 --> 00:28:33,630 Tim is our client and if he dies, we live with it. 959 00:28:33,630 --> 00:28:35,630 Dies, we live with it. >> In the years that followed, 960 00:28:35,630 --> 00:28:37,030 >> in the years that followed, the hennis case became a 961 00:28:37,030 --> 00:28:42,130 the hennis case became a textbook example of wrongful 962 00:28:42,140 --> 00:28:42,600 textbook example of wrongful prosecution. 963 00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:46,000 Prosecution. Scott was even adapted into a TV 964 00:28:46,010 --> 00:28:46,410 Scott was even adapted into a TV mov 965 00:28:46,410 --> 00:28:46,640 mov movie. 966 00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:47,910 Movie. >> This case put people on 967 00:28:47,910 --> 00:28:48,840 >> this case put people on notice that not everybody who is 968 00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:51,380 notice that not everybody who is sitting in prison is glity. 969 00:28:51,380 --> 00:28:52,010 Sitting in prison is glity. >> North Carolina now as a 970 00:28:52,010 --> 00:28:53,510 >> north Carolina now as a commission that actually has 971 00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:57,430 commission that actually has released a number of innocent 972 00:28:57,420 --> 00:28:57,780 released a number of innocent people. 973 00:28:57,790 --> 00:29:00,120 People. >> Despite all the attention to 974 00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:01,890 >> despite all the attention to hennis' acquittal to eastburn 975 00:29:01,890 --> 00:29:03,360 hennis' acquittal to eastburn murders would go unsolved for 976 00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:05,720 murders would go unsolved for another 16 years. 977 00:29:05,730 --> 00:29:09,330 Another 16 years. Until 2005 when Scott spoke 978 00:29:09,330 --> 00:29:12,630 until 2005 when Scott spoke about a case at a criminology 979 00:29:12,630 --> 00:29:13,670 about a case at a criminology seminar. 980 00:29:13,670 --> 00:29:14,570 Seminar. Fayetteville detective Larry 981 00:29:14,570 --> 00:29:15,470 fayetteville detective Larry trotter was in the audience. 982 00:29:15,470 --> 00:29:16,740 Trotter was in the audience. >> The premise was that there 983 00:29:16,740 --> 00:29:17,870 >> the premise was that there were a lot of unknowns out 984 00:29:17,870 --> 00:29:18,140 were a lot of unknowns out there. 985 00:29:18,140 --> 00:29:19,810 There. People that potentially may not 986 00:29:19,810 --> 00:29:21,040 people that potentially may not have been interviewed, other 987 00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:22,980 have been interviewed, other forms of evidence. 988 00:29:22,980 --> 00:29:24,840 Forms of evidence. >> If he's innocent then who is 989 00:29:24,850 --> 00:29:25,080 >> if he's innocent then who is guilty? 990 00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:26,580 Guilty? The state of north Carolina 991 00:29:26,580 --> 00:29:28,180 the state of north Carolina didn't pursue this for 17 years. 992 00:29:28,180 --> 00:29:30,580 Didn't pursue this for 17 years. Why isn't trying to find who is 993 00:29:30,590 --> 00:29:30,830 why isn't trying to find who is guilty? 994 00:29:30,820 --> 00:29:32,350 Guilty? >> Somebody was stalking that 995 00:29:32,350 --> 00:29:36,590 >> somebody was stalking that woman for weeks. 996 00:29:36,590 --> 00:29:38,520 Woman for weeks. Eastburn was writing his woman 997 00:29:38,530 --> 00:29:39,860 eastburn was writing his woman saying there is a fool out there 998 00:29:39,860 --> 00:29:40,960 saying there is a fool out there following many we, I don't like 999 00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:41,130 following many we, I don't like it. 1000 00:29:41,130 --> 00:29:43,130 It. What do I do about it? 1001 00:29:43,130 --> 00:29:45,160 What do I do about it? Why isn't that being looked at? 1002 00:29:45,170 --> 00:29:47,070 Why isn't that being looked at? Who does it lead to? 1003 00:29:47,070 --> 00:29:48,970 Who does it lead to? >> After witnesses discussed the 1004 00:29:48,970 --> 00:29:50,300 >> after witnesses discussed the evidence detective trotter 1005 00:29:50,310 --> 00:29:51,280 evidence detective trotter approached him privately. 1006 00:29:51,270 --> 00:29:53,140 Approached him privately. He said, I just want you to know 1007 00:29:53,140 --> 00:29:54,640 he said, I just want you to know that the way they investigated 1008 00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:56,610 that the way they investigated this case 20 years ago, we're 1009 00:29:56,610 --> 00:29:58,310 this case 20 years ago, we're not like that anymore. 1010 00:29:58,310 --> 00:30:01,650 Not like that anymore. I said, somebody should 1011 00:30:01,650 --> 00:30:02,710 I said, somebody should reinvestigate this case. 1012 00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:04,250 Reinvestigate this case. I think it can be solved now. 1013 00:30:04,250 --> 00:30:05,180 I think it can be solved now. Technology has improved. 1014 00:30:05,190 --> 00:30:06,420 Technology has improved. That's how we left it. 1015 00:30:06,420 --> 00:30:08,450 That's how we left it. >> In fact, trotter had been 1016 00:30:08,460 --> 00:30:10,560 >> in fact, trotter had been assigned by the sheriff's office 1017 00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:11,760 assigned by the sheriff's office to review cold cases. 1018 00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:13,660 To review cold cases. >> We had well over 100 unsolved 1019 00:30:13,660 --> 00:30:14,790 >> we had well over 100 unsolved cases at this time. 1020 00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:16,630 Cases at this time. As I went through it, the 1021 00:30:16,630 --> 00:30:24,470 as I went through it, the docket, I realized that they had 1022 00:30:24,470 --> 00:30:27,070 docket, I realized that they had a vaginal s wrks wab. 1023 00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:27,720 A vaginal s wrks wab. It had never been sent out for 1024 00:30:27,710 --> 00:30:27,940 it had never been sent out for testing. 1025 00:30:27,940 --> 00:30:29,680 Testing. When it happened DNA was in 1026 00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:31,740 when it happened DNA was in infancy so the thing to do was 1027 00:30:31,750 --> 00:30:33,010 infancy so the thing to do was to send it off for testing. 1028 00:30:33,010 --> 00:30:36,220 To send it off for testing. >> For over two decades Gary 1029 00:30:36,220 --> 00:30:38,180 >> for over two decades Gary eastburn had lived without 1030 00:30:38,190 --> 00:30:38,950 eastburn had lived without closure of the ders stating 1031 00:30:38,950 --> 00:30:41,650 closure of the ders stating murder of his wife and two 1032 00:30:41,660 --> 00:30:41,920 murder of his wife and two daughters. 1033 00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:42,750 Daughters. >> We've done a great injustice 1034 00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:43,320 >> we've done a great injustice for this man. 1035 00:30:43,330 --> 00:30:45,170 For this man. How he stood up or with stood, I 1036 00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:45,520 how he stood up or with stood, I don't know. 1037 00:30:45,530 --> 00:30:46,690 Don't know. You just want to do something 1038 00:30:46,700 --> 00:30:47,070 you just want to do something for him. 1039 00:30:47,060 --> 00:30:48,730 For him. You want to make sure you get 1040 00:30:48,730 --> 00:30:49,430 you want to make sure you get this solved. 1041 00:30:49,430 --> 00:30:52,930 This solved. >> In may 2006 the state crime 1042 00:30:52,930 --> 00:30:54,300 >> in may 2006 the state crime lab contacted the sheriff's 1043 00:30:54,300 --> 00:30:54,600 lab contacted the sheriff's department. 1044 00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:56,070 Department. They had found a positive match 1045 00:30:56,070 --> 00:30:59,240 they had found a positive match for the DNA. 1046 00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:01,640 For the DNA. Detective bitle called Gary 1047 00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:02,570 detective bitle called Gary eastburn to tell him the news. 1048 00:31:02,580 --> 00:31:04,140 Eastburn to tell him the news. I said, are you sitting down? 1049 00:31:04,150 --> 00:31:05,720 I said, are you sitting down? He said, yeah. 1050 00:31:05,710 --> 00:31:05,880 He said, yeah. Why? 1051 00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:07,780 Why? I said, take a deep seat, I've 1052 00:31:07,780 --> 00:31:15,390 I said, take a deep seat, I've got something to tell you. 1053 00:31:15,390 --> 00:31:16,760 Got something to tell you. >>> After Tim hennis was freed 1054 00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:19,290 >>> after Tim hennis was freed from death row in 1989 he didn't 1055 00:31:19,290 --> 00:31:20,790 from death row in 1989 he didn't know where to turn. 1056 00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:24,140 Know where to turn. >> Are you feel very diminished, 1057 00:31:24,130 --> 00:31:30,340 >> are you feel very diminished, very worn out, dragged down, you 1058 00:31:30,340 --> 00:31:31,970 very worn out, dragged down, you don't have the self confidence 1059 00:31:31,970 --> 00:31:33,940 don't have the self confidence and reliability you once had. 1060 00:31:33,940 --> 00:31:36,240 And reliability you once had. >> His lawyers told him, get out 1061 00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:36,640 >> his lawyers told him, get out of the army. 1062 00:31:36,650 --> 00:31:39,490 Of the army. It's just a bad place to be. 1063 00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:40,780 It's just a bad place to be. But you've been on death row, 1064 00:31:40,780 --> 00:31:42,480 but you've been on death row, there weren't a lot of employers 1065 00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:44,250 there weren't a lot of employers who would take that on. 1066 00:31:44,250 --> 00:31:45,820 Who would take that on. The army had to take him back, 1067 00:31:45,820 --> 00:31:47,590 the army had to take him back, so he stayed in. 1068 00:31:47,590 --> 00:31:49,790 So he stayed in. >> After readjusting to army 1069 00:31:49,790 --> 00:31:51,990 >> after readjusting to army life, Tim hennis built a 1070 00:31:51,990 --> 00:31:53,790 life, Tim hennis built a successful 25-year career in the 1071 00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:55,470 successful 25-year career in the military. 1072 00:31:55,460 --> 00:31:56,600 Military. >> Tim hennis served in Somalia, 1073 00:31:56,600 --> 00:32:02,800 >> Tim hennis served in Somalia, he served in desert storm. 1074 00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:04,440 He served in desert storm. Tim's supervising colonel told 1075 00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:06,540 Tim's supervising colonel told me he was without a doubt the 1076 00:32:06,540 --> 00:32:08,540 me he was without a doubt the best nco he ever worked with. 1077 00:32:08,540 --> 00:32:10,040 Best nco he ever worked with. >> Retired at 2004. 1078 00:32:10,050 --> 00:32:12,520 >> Retired at 2004. He was good at being a husband 1079 00:32:12,510 --> 00:32:12,810 he was good at being a husband and father. 1080 00:32:12,810 --> 00:32:14,910 And father. He and Angela had a son, who he 1081 00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:17,180 he and Angela had a son, who he never would have had had he not 1082 00:32:17,190 --> 00:32:18,430 never would have had had he not gotten his life back together. 1083 00:32:18,420 --> 00:32:21,690 Gotten his life back together. >> But Tim hennis had no idea 1084 00:32:21,690 --> 00:32:22,820 >> but Tim hennis had no idea the eastburn murder case was 1085 00:32:22,820 --> 00:32:24,060 the eastburn murder case was about to break wide open. 1086 00:32:24,060 --> 00:32:27,760 About to break wide open. In 2006 a 20-year-old rape kit 1087 00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:30,030 in 2006 a 20-year-old rape kit yielded new DNA results. 1088 00:32:30,030 --> 00:32:32,500 Yielded new DNA results. Drebtive bittle called the 1089 00:32:32,500 --> 00:32:33,400 drebtive bittle called the father Gary eastburn the news. 1090 00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:35,670 Father Gary eastburn the news. >> I said, we got a hit on the 1091 00:32:35,670 --> 00:32:36,100 >> I said, we got a hit on the DNA. 1092 00:32:36,100 --> 00:32:37,540 DNA. He said, well, who is it? 1093 00:32:37,540 --> 00:32:41,710 He said, well, who is it? I said, hennis. 1094 00:32:41,710 --> 00:32:42,810 I said, hennis. >> You could knocked me over 1095 00:32:42,810 --> 00:32:46,810 >> you could knocked me over with a feather when I got that 1096 00:32:46,820 --> 00:32:47,020 with a feather when I got that call. 1097 00:32:47,020 --> 00:32:49,390 Call. Just hit with this wave of 1098 00:32:49,380 --> 00:32:50,020 just hit with this wave of emotion. 1099 00:32:50,020 --> 00:32:50,850 Emotion. Like, I don't believe it. 1100 00:32:50,850 --> 00:32:53,050 Like, I don't believe it. >> I was so happy. 1101 00:32:53,050 --> 00:32:56,020 >> I was so happy. I mean, I was walking on cloud 1102 00:32:56,020 --> 00:32:56,220 I mean, I was walking on cloud nine. 1103 00:32:56,220 --> 00:32:57,790 Nine. >> Defense lawyer Billy 1104 00:32:57,790 --> 00:32:58,820 >> defense lawyer Billy Richardson was driving through 1105 00:32:58,830 --> 00:33:00,060 Richardson was driving through Mississippi when he heard the 1106 00:33:00,060 --> 00:33:00,330 Mississippi when he heard the news. 1107 00:33:00,330 --> 00:33:06,370 News. >> I said, stop the car. 1108 00:33:06,370 --> 00:33:09,270 >> I said, stop the car. And it was just like somebody 1109 00:33:09,270 --> 00:33:12,270 and it was just like somebody had taken a 2 x 4 and hit me up 1110 00:33:12,270 --> 00:33:13,310 had taken a 2 x 4 and hit me up the side of the head with it. 1111 00:33:13,310 --> 00:33:14,940 The side of the head with it. >> I was convinced that if 1112 00:33:14,940 --> 00:33:17,010 >> I was convinced that if anybody could ever run an actual 1113 00:33:17,010 --> 00:33:18,380 anybody could ever run an actual DNA on that sample they would 1114 00:33:18,380 --> 00:33:21,510 DNA on that sample they would find someone other than Tim 1115 00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:21,780 find someone other than Tim hennis. 1116 00:33:21,780 --> 00:33:23,150 Hennis. I believed it with every fiber 1117 00:33:23,150 --> 00:33:23,980 I believed it with every fiber of my being. 1118 00:33:23,990 --> 00:33:25,990 Of my being. >> But the shocking DNA results 1119 00:33:25,990 --> 00:33:28,590 >> but the shocking DNA results led to a pragmatic question -- 1120 00:33:28,590 --> 00:33:30,720 led to a pragmatic question -- >> what the heck do you do now? 1121 00:33:30,730 --> 00:33:34,440 >> What the heck do you do now? >> Timothy hennis had been 1122 00:33:34,430 --> 00:33:35,030 >> Timothy hennis had been adjudicated, not guilty, 1123 00:33:35,030 --> 00:33:36,160 adjudicated, not guilty, therefore the state of north 1124 00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:36,900 therefore the state of north Carolina was not going to try 1125 00:33:36,900 --> 00:33:38,130 Carolina was not going to try him again. 1126 00:33:38,130 --> 00:33:40,270 Him again. >> We fought a revolutionary war 1127 00:33:40,270 --> 00:33:42,230 >> we fought a revolutionary war because the king of england 1128 00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:43,900 because the king of england could try somebody over and over 1129 00:33:43,910 --> 00:33:45,280 could try somebody over and over for the same offense. 1130 00:33:45,270 --> 00:33:47,640 For the same offense. Our funders put in the 1131 00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:48,970 our funders put in the constitution that there will be 1132 00:33:48,980 --> 00:33:51,080 constitution that there will be no double jeopardy in this 1133 00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:51,310 no double jeopardy in this country. 1134 00:33:51,310 --> 00:33:52,710 Country. >> I understand that, but I 1135 00:33:52,710 --> 00:33:55,750 >> I understand that, but I think there might be certain 1136 00:33:55,750 --> 00:33:57,780 think there might be certain cases like this that there's DNA 1137 00:33:57,790 --> 00:33:59,990 cases like this that there's DNA now that says there's a man who 1138 00:33:59,990 --> 00:34:02,120 now that says there's a man who raped this woman and killed her. 1139 00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:02,720 Raped this woman and killed her. I think you should be able to. 1140 00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:04,320 I think you should be able to. Somehow the judicial system is 1141 00:34:04,330 --> 00:34:05,730 somehow the judicial system is going to have to work around 1142 00:34:05,730 --> 00:34:05,920 going to have to work around that. 1143 00:34:05,930 --> 00:34:08,560 That. >> It was the da's office who 1144 00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:10,130 >> it was the da's office who decided to see if the army was 1145 00:34:10,130 --> 00:34:11,500 decided to see if the army was interested in bringing him back 1146 00:34:11,500 --> 00:34:13,100 interested in bringing him back off of retirement and trying him 1147 00:34:13,100 --> 00:34:15,430 off of retirement and trying him for the murders. 1148 00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:17,670 For the murders. >> A team of lawyers from the 1149 00:34:17,670 --> 00:34:19,670 >> a team of lawyers from the ranks helped evaluate the case 1150 00:34:19,670 --> 00:34:20,670 ranks helped evaluate the case for the army. 1151 00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:22,250 For the army. >> My personal opinion about why 1152 00:34:22,240 --> 00:34:23,140 >> my personal opinion about why this is important to the 1153 00:34:23,140 --> 00:34:24,910 this is important to the military is that the military 1154 00:34:24,910 --> 00:34:27,750 military is that the military sent Gary eastburn for duty in 1155 00:34:27,750 --> 00:34:29,610 sent Gary eastburn for duty in Alabama and his family was left 1156 00:34:29,620 --> 00:34:31,120 Alabama and his family was left behind and they were murdered. 1157 00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:32,850 Behind and they were murdered. >> I'm sure there was debate 1158 00:34:32,850 --> 00:34:34,490 >> I'm sure there was debate with the military. 1159 00:34:34,490 --> 00:34:36,760 With the military. It's high profile, it's 1160 00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:38,690 it's high profile, it's controversial, but you had an 1161 00:34:38,690 --> 00:34:40,930 controversial, but you had an enlisted person killing an 1162 00:34:40,930 --> 00:34:41,430 enlisted person killing an officer's wife. 1163 00:34:41,430 --> 00:34:43,900 Officer's wife. How do you let that go? 1164 00:34:43,900 --> 00:34:46,470 How do you let that go? >> Two years after he retired, 1165 00:34:46,470 --> 00:34:48,830 >> two years after he retired, Timothy hennis was recalled to 1166 00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:49,570 Timothy hennis was recalled to active duty. 1167 00:34:49,570 --> 00:34:50,970 Active duty. As soon as he returned to ft. 1168 00:34:50,970 --> 00:34:52,270 As soon as he returned to ft. Bragg, hennis was charge with 1169 00:34:52,270 --> 00:34:55,440 bragg, hennis was charge with three counts of murder. 1170 00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:57,310 Three counts of murder. >> Tim hennis is the only person 1171 00:34:57,310 --> 00:34:58,410 >> Tim hennis is the only person in the United States history who 1172 00:34:58,410 --> 00:35:00,350 in the United States history who has been tried for his life 1173 00:35:00,350 --> 00:35:02,080 has been tried for his life three times after guilty and not 1174 00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:03,480 three times after guilty and not guilty verdicts. 1175 00:35:03,490 --> 00:35:05,560 Guilty verdicts. >> I can't comment as to why it 1176 00:35:05,550 --> 00:35:08,950 >> I can't comment as to why it has not happened before. 1177 00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:10,390 Has not happened before. However, illegal analysis of it 1178 00:35:10,390 --> 00:35:13,190 however, illegal analysis of it was actually pretty simple. 1179 00:35:13,190 --> 00:35:15,660 Was actually pretty simple. >> It is actually well is itled 1180 00:35:15,660 --> 00:35:15,990 >> it is actually well is itled law. 1181 00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:17,100 Law. Nothing the state does affects 1182 00:35:17,100 --> 00:35:18,100 nothing the state does affects what the government can do. 1183 00:35:18,100 --> 00:35:20,400 What the government can do. >> They can claim it's under a 1184 00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:21,200 >> they can claim it's under a different jurisdiction all they 1185 00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:21,400 different jurisdiction all they want. 1186 00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:22,930 Want. This was the state of north 1187 00:35:22,940 --> 00:35:24,300 this was the state of north Carolina using the army to get 1188 00:35:24,310 --> 00:35:25,480 Carolina using the army to get to what they wanted to do. 1189 00:35:25,470 --> 00:35:29,940 To what they wanted to do. Plain and simple. 1190 00:35:29,940 --> 00:35:32,410 Plain and simple. >> With Billy Richardson now on 1191 00:35:32,410 --> 00:35:34,010 >> with Billy Richardson now on the side lips the court-martial 1192 00:35:34,020 --> 00:35:36,990 the side lips the court-martial of Timothy hennis commenced on 1193 00:35:36,990 --> 00:35:38,060 of Timothy hennis commenced on march 14th, 2010. 1194 00:35:38,050 --> 00:35:39,480 March 14th, 2010. The prosecutor's case hinged on 1195 00:35:39,490 --> 00:35:40,820 the prosecutor's case hinged on the DNA results. 1196 00:35:40,820 --> 00:35:43,690 The DNA results. >> The sperm found in the vagina 1197 00:35:43,690 --> 00:35:45,660 >> the sperm found in the vagina of Kathryn eastburn was the 1198 00:35:45,660 --> 00:35:47,360 of Kathryn eastburn was the person who raped and slaughtered 1199 00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:48,530 person who raped and slaughtered her and her children, and that 1200 00:35:48,530 --> 00:35:49,960 her and her children, and that is Timothy hennis'. 1201 00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:51,660 Is Timothy hennis'. >> When a scandal erupted at the 1202 00:35:51,670 --> 00:35:54,800 >> when a scandal erupted at the state lab the DNA evidence 1203 00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:56,030 state lab the DNA evidence against Timothy hennis would be 1204 00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:56,700 against Timothy hennis would be thrown into question. 1205 00:35:56,700 --> 00:35:58,740 Thrown into question. >> They were mixing up DNA 1206 00:35:58,740 --> 00:36:15,390 >> they were mixing up DNA samples and almost putting an 1207 00:36:17,660 --> 00:36:23,090 >> narrator: In 20 Timothy hennis went on trial a third 1208 00:36:23,100 --> 00:36:23,560 hennis went on trial a third time. 1209 00:36:23,570 --> 00:36:25,470 Time. A scandal rocked the state lab 1210 00:36:25,470 --> 00:36:27,700 a scandal rocked the state lab that identified his DNA. 1211 00:36:27,700 --> 00:36:30,000 That identified his DNA. The lab had been skewing results 1212 00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:31,700 the lab had been skewing results to help prosecutors. 1213 00:36:31,710 --> 00:36:33,470 To help prosecutors. >> The woman who handled the 1214 00:36:33,470 --> 00:36:37,310 >> the woman who handled the sample back in the '80s got in 1215 00:36:37,310 --> 00:36:41,650 sample back in the '80s got in trouble for mixing up some DNA 1216 00:36:41,650 --> 00:36:43,620 trouble for mixing up some DNA samples in another case. 1217 00:36:43,620 --> 00:36:45,350 Samples in another case. And almost put an innocent guy 1218 00:36:45,350 --> 00:36:46,320 and almost put an innocent guy in prison. 1219 00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:48,350 In prison. >> They didn't do a good job 1220 00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:49,690 >> they didn't do a good job preserving the evidence. 1221 00:36:49,690 --> 00:36:51,190 Preserving the evidence. Three people were arrested for 1222 00:36:51,190 --> 00:36:53,290 three people were arrested for evidence tampering. 1223 00:36:53,290 --> 00:36:54,530 Evidence tampering. >> Narrator: His lawyers asked 1224 00:36:54,530 --> 00:36:56,630 >> narrator: His lawyers asked for a postponement to 1225 00:36:56,630 --> 00:36:57,460 for a postponement to investigate the lab. 1226 00:36:57,470 --> 00:37:00,240 Investigate the lab. The judge refused. 1227 00:37:00,240 --> 00:37:02,180 The judge refused. Meanwhile, military prosecutors 1228 00:37:02,170 --> 00:37:04,100 meanwhile, military prosecutors found a second smear from the 1229 00:37:04,110 --> 00:37:04,650 found a second smear from the rape kit. 1230 00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:06,400 Rape kit. They sent it to a new lab and 1231 00:37:06,410 --> 00:37:09,770 they sent it to a new lab and the results also pointed to 1232 00:37:09,780 --> 00:37:10,480 the results also pointed to hennis. 1233 00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:12,080 Hennis. >> The medical examiner slide 1234 00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:14,680 >> the medical examiner slide came back on every marker to the 1235 00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:15,150 came back on every marker to the defendant. 1236 00:37:15,150 --> 00:37:18,020 Defendant. Tested by army's crime lab. 1237 00:37:18,020 --> 00:37:20,450 Tested by army's crime lab. You had two chains of custody. 1238 00:37:20,460 --> 00:37:22,900 You had two chains of custody. The defense could not attack the 1239 00:37:22,890 --> 00:37:23,150 the defense could not attack the slide. 1240 00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:24,360 Slide. >> Narrator: For prosecutors the 1241 00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:26,590 >> narrator: For prosecutors the DNA results swept away all 1242 00:37:26,590 --> 00:37:27,860 DNA results swept away all previous doubts. 1243 00:37:27,860 --> 00:37:29,730 Previous doubts. >> They went back and replayed 1244 00:37:29,730 --> 00:37:31,260 >> they went back and replayed the first two trials. 1245 00:37:31,270 --> 00:37:32,200 The first two trials. Some of the old discredited 1246 00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:37,240 some of the old discredited instances. 1247 00:37:37,240 --> 00:37:40,340 Instances. Patrick saw Timothy coming down 1248 00:37:40,340 --> 00:37:40,670 Patrick saw Timothy coming down the driveway. 1249 00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:42,250 The driveway. The members only jacket to the 1250 00:37:42,240 --> 00:37:43,240 the members only jacket to the cry cleaners. 1251 00:37:43,240 --> 00:37:44,780 Cry cleaners. Using the atm card. 1252 00:37:44,780 --> 00:37:46,280 Using the atm card. You had numerous pieces of 1253 00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:46,850 you had numerous pieces of evidence to tie him to the 1254 00:37:46,850 --> 00:37:49,350 evidence to tie him to the crime. 1255 00:37:49,350 --> 00:37:52,420 Crime. >> Narrator: For hennis's 1256 00:37:52,420 --> 00:37:54,450 >> narrator: For hennis's defenders prosecution's case had 1257 00:37:54,460 --> 00:37:54,760 defenders prosecution's case had flaws. 1258 00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:56,320 Flaws. The top priority was getting 1259 00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:57,320 the top priority was getting their own evidence in front of 1260 00:37:57,330 --> 00:37:58,170 their own evidence in front of the jury. 1261 00:37:58,160 --> 00:37:59,990 The jury. >> There is a ton of physical 1262 00:37:59,990 --> 00:38:01,290 >> there is a ton of physical evidence in that house they 1263 00:38:01,300 --> 00:38:03,260 evidence in that house they still can't explain. 1264 00:38:03,260 --> 00:38:05,660 Still can't explain. They found a head hair in the 1265 00:38:05,670 --> 00:38:06,630 they found a head hair in the bed. 1266 00:38:06,630 --> 00:38:09,370 Bed. It's not Tim hennis. 1267 00:38:09,370 --> 00:38:11,670 It's not Tim hennis. There is a pubic hair where the 1268 00:38:11,670 --> 00:38:13,270 there is a pubic hair where the rape took place. 1269 00:38:13,270 --> 00:38:15,070 Rape took place. >> What is male DNA doing under 1270 00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:16,440 >> what is male DNA doing under her finger nails? 1271 00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:18,080 Her finger nails? It's not Tim's. 1272 00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:19,180 It's not Tim's. There is male DNA under the 1273 00:38:19,180 --> 00:38:21,310 there is male DNA under the daughter's finger nails, not 1274 00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:21,510 daughter's finger nails, not Tim's. 1275 00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:23,010 Tim's. >> The prosecution and defense 1276 00:38:23,020 --> 00:38:24,280 >> the prosecution and defense agreed. 1277 00:38:24,290 --> 00:38:26,330 Agreed. Nothing else came back to 1278 00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:27,950 nothing else came back to Timothy hennis. 1279 00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:29,900 Timothy hennis. Under the fingerer nails that's 1280 00:38:29,890 --> 00:38:30,560 under the fingerer nails that's not his. 1281 00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:33,660 Not his. But what is is the vaginal swab. 1282 00:38:33,660 --> 00:38:35,260 But what is is the vaginal swab. >> To me male DNA evidence under 1283 00:38:35,260 --> 00:38:38,400 >> to me male DNA evidence under the finger nail of a woman who's 1284 00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:39,660 the finger nail of a woman who's raped is damaging evidence. 1285 00:38:39,670 --> 00:38:40,670 Raped is damaging evidence. Who is it? 1286 00:38:40,670 --> 00:38:42,330 Who is it? >> Narrator: The finger nail 1287 00:38:42,340 --> 00:38:43,540 >> narrator: The finger nail scrapings weren't enough for a 1288 00:38:43,540 --> 00:38:44,940 scrapings weren't enough for a full DNA profile. 1289 00:38:44,940 --> 00:38:46,640 Full DNA profile. So the defense asked to test all 1290 00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:48,910 so the defense asked to test all the crime scene evidence that 1291 00:38:48,910 --> 00:38:50,880 the crime scene evidence that might point to a different 1292 00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:53,210 might point to a different perpetrator, including a 1293 00:38:53,210 --> 00:38:53,980 perpetrator, including a blood-soaked towel. 1294 00:38:53,980 --> 00:38:55,480 Blood-soaked towel. >> Whoever had sex with her 1295 00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:57,150 >> whoever had sex with her didn't necessarily kill her. 1296 00:38:57,150 --> 00:38:59,150 Didn't necessarily kill her. You can't argue that whoever 1297 00:38:59,150 --> 00:39:00,290 you can't argue that whoever cleaned up the blood didn't have 1298 00:39:00,290 --> 00:39:02,020 cleaned up the blood didn't have something to do with it. 1299 00:39:02,020 --> 00:39:03,290 Something to do with it. Let's find out what happened. 1300 00:39:03,290 --> 00:39:05,190 Let's find out what happened. >> In the military, if you need 1301 00:39:05,190 --> 00:39:06,830 >> in the military, if you need a test done, you have to ask the 1302 00:39:06,830 --> 00:39:08,960 a test done, you have to ask the judge to make the army do it for 1303 00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:09,360 judge to make the army do it for you. 1304 00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:10,560 You. >> Narrator: The judge denied 1305 00:39:10,570 --> 00:39:12,370 >> narrator: The judge denied the defense's request to test 1306 00:39:12,370 --> 00:39:13,530 the defense's request to test other items. 1307 00:39:13,530 --> 00:39:16,170 Other items. >> I can't imagine a judge in a 1308 00:39:16,170 --> 00:39:17,940 >> I can't imagine a judge in a civilian court not allowing 1309 00:39:17,940 --> 00:39:18,140 civilian court not allowing that. 1310 00:39:18,140 --> 00:39:19,370 That. You had the evidence. 1311 00:39:19,370 --> 00:39:21,910 You had the evidence. Why not test it? 1312 00:39:21,910 --> 00:39:23,040 Why not test it? >> Narrator: Without DNA results 1313 00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:27,610 >> narrator: Without DNA results pointing to a different suspect, 1314 00:39:27,620 --> 00:39:29,760 pointing to a different suspect, hennis's lawyers decided to 1315 00:39:29,750 --> 00:39:32,920 hennis's lawyers decided to offer an alternate explanation 1316 00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:34,350 offer an alternate explanation for the incriminating sperm. 1317 00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:36,130 For the incriminating sperm. >> They threw out the theory 1318 00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:40,990 >> they threw out the theory that Tim hennis had consensual 1319 00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:43,140 that Tim hennis had consensual sex with Mrs. Eastburn within a 1320 00:39:43,130 --> 00:39:45,630 sex with Mrs. Eastburn within a day or so of the homicide. 1321 00:39:45,630 --> 00:39:46,970 Day or so of the homicide. >> You could feel the love 1322 00:39:46,970 --> 00:39:47,770 >> you could feel the love leaving the room. 1323 00:39:47,770 --> 00:39:49,470 Leaving the room. Everybody said, I don't think he 1324 00:39:49,470 --> 00:39:50,200 everybody said, I don't think he said that. 1325 00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:51,200 Said that. There are certain things you can 1326 00:39:51,210 --> 00:39:52,610 there are certain things you can do in front of a jury. 1327 00:39:52,610 --> 00:39:54,170 Do in front of a jury. Certain things you are can't. 1328 00:39:54,180 --> 00:39:55,150 Certain things you are can't. It would not have been how I 1329 00:39:55,140 --> 00:39:58,580 it would not have been how I would have done it. 1330 00:39:58,580 --> 00:40:01,410 Would have done it. >> Narrator: The 14-person 1331 00:40:01,420 --> 00:40:03,180 >> narrator: The 14-person court-martial jury declared 1332 00:40:03,180 --> 00:40:05,250 court-martial jury declared unanimously that Timothy the 1333 00:40:05,250 --> 00:40:07,450 unanimously that Timothy the hennis was guilty of murdering 1334 00:40:07,460 --> 00:40:09,160 hennis was guilty of murdering Katie eastburn and her children. 1335 00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:11,690 Katie eastburn and her children. The next task would be to decide 1336 00:40:11,690 --> 00:40:13,960 the next task would be to decide whether hennis deserved the 1337 00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:14,390 whether hennis deserved the death penalty. 1338 00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:15,800 Death penalty. >> When you have a man that for 1339 00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:18,730 >> when you have a man that for 25 years after this occurred did 1340 00:40:18,730 --> 00:40:21,230 25 years after this occurred did knnothing but raise his family, 1341 00:40:21,240 --> 00:40:23,680 knnothing but raise his family, serve in two wars, discharged 1342 00:40:23,670 --> 00:40:25,470 serve in two wars, discharged and married to the same woman, 1343 00:40:25,470 --> 00:40:26,740 and married to the same woman, why are you going to the look 1344 00:40:26,740 --> 00:40:30,880 why are you going to the look and say that's the monster? 1345 00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:33,180 And say that's the monster? >> He gives cookies to kids. 1346 00:40:33,180 --> 00:40:34,610 >> He gives cookies to kids. Doesn't make a difference. 1347 00:40:34,620 --> 00:40:36,460 Doesn't make a difference. >> We are not there to say how 1348 00:40:36,450 --> 00:40:37,450 >> we are not there to say how could he do it? 1349 00:40:37,450 --> 00:40:39,150 Could he do it? We are not there to say why did 1350 00:40:39,150 --> 00:40:39,750 we are not there to say why did he do it. 1351 00:40:39,750 --> 00:40:47,660 He do it. We are there to say he did it. 1352 00:40:47,660 --> 00:40:49,460 We are there to say he did it. >> The prosecution ended their 1353 00:40:49,460 --> 00:40:52,200 >> the prosecution ended their presentation with another slide 1354 00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:52,730 presentation with another slide show. 1355 00:40:52,730 --> 00:40:55,470 Show. >> Eastman counted out that 1356 00:40:55,470 --> 00:41:02,570 >> eastman counted out that birthdays he's missed with his 1357 00:41:02,580 --> 00:41:02,840 birthdays he's missed with his daughters. 1358 00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:03,710 Daughters. Anniversari 1359 00:41:03,710 --> 00:41:04,980 anniversari anniversaries. 1360 00:41:04,980 --> 00:41:05,210 Anniversaries. Baptism. 1361 00:41:05,210 --> 00:41:07,880 Baptism. One of my trial partners asked 1362 00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:09,950 one of my trial partners asked Gary what do you miss the most? 1363 00:41:09,950 --> 00:41:13,450 Gary what do you miss the most? With tears in his eyes he said, 1364 00:41:13,450 --> 00:41:15,650 with tears in his eyes he said, I just miss them. 1365 00:41:15,660 --> 00:41:18,690 I just miss them. >> On April 15, 2010, the jury 1366 00:41:18,690 --> 00:41:19,420 >> on April 15, 2010, the jury sentenced Timothy hennis to 1367 00:41:19,430 --> 00:41:27,530 sentenced Timothy hennis to death. 1368 00:41:27,540 --> 00:41:29,780 Death. >> Being vindicated for things 1369 00:41:29,770 --> 00:41:31,040 >> being vindicated for things when they got a not guilty. 1370 00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:32,340 When they got a not guilty. With the smiles and smirks you 1371 00:41:32,340 --> 00:41:33,140 with the smiles and smirks you see from people. 1372 00:41:33,140 --> 00:41:33,570 See from people. I do. 1373 00:41:33,570 --> 00:41:34,370 I do. Yes, sir, I do. 1374 00:41:34,380 --> 00:41:37,590 Yes, sir, I do. I feel vindicated. 1375 00:41:37,580 --> 00:41:39,240 I feel vindicated. >> Narrator: Tim now sits in 1376 00:41:39,250 --> 00:41:41,850 >> narrator: Tim now sits in solitary confinement at fort 1377 00:41:41,850 --> 00:41:42,410 solitary confinement at fort levinworth, Kansas. 1378 00:41:42,420 --> 00:41:44,450 Levinworth, Kansas. His appeals both in the military 1379 00:41:44,450 --> 00:41:47,690 his appeals both in the military and federal courts could take 1380 00:41:47,690 --> 00:41:47,920 and federal courts could take decades. 1381 00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:48,420 Decades. >> I still think Tim is 1382 00:41:48,420 --> 00:41:50,520 >> I still think Tim is innocent. 1383 00:41:50,530 --> 00:41:52,530 Innocent. But I'm not his lawyer now. 1384 00:41:52,530 --> 00:41:54,230 But I'm not his lawyer now. It would be improper for me to 1385 00:41:54,230 --> 00:41:55,390 it would be improper for me to say, all right, Tim. 1386 00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:57,460 Say, all right, Tim. Did you or didn't you? 1387 00:41:57,470 --> 00:41:59,640 Did you or didn't you? I'm dying to have that 1388 00:41:59,630 --> 00:42:00,500 I'm dying to have that conversation with him. 1389 00:42:00,500 --> 00:42:03,200 Conversation with him. How can you put a man to death 1390 00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:06,000 how can you put a man to death based solely on one piece of 1391 00:42:06,010 --> 00:42:06,440 based solely on one piece of evidence? 1392 00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:08,640 Evidence? Our country was formed on the 1393 00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:11,880 our country was formed on the premise that one person 1394 00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:13,680 premise that one person wrongfully convict sd a grave 1395 00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:13,980 wrongfully convict sd a grave injustice. 1396 00:42:13,980 --> 00:42:15,080 Injustice. >> I don't know what the outcome 1397 00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:15,580 >> I don't know what the outcome will be. 1398 00:42:15,580 --> 00:42:17,220 Will be. This is a good case. 1399 00:42:17,220 --> 00:42:19,420 This is a good case. >> I knew we were right. 1400 00:42:19,420 --> 00:42:21,450 >> I knew we were right. >> I think this is a good 1401 00:42:21,460 --> 00:42:21,660 >> I think this is a good system. 126669

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