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- [Barry] In just over
a two-week period,
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both Steve Mera and
myself, Barry Fitzgerald,
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travel enough miles to take us
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completely around this
planet and then some,
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in an attempt to find answers,
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scientific answers to finally
solve that age-old question
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if we are truly alone
in this universe.
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The results are in,
and this is our story.
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[singing in foreign language]
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- In June 2017, the Internet
exploded with images and video
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of a mysterious mummy
discovered in South America.
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It has become known as
the three-fingered hybrid.
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But what do we really
know about this discovery?
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My name's Steve Mera and I'm
an investigative researcher
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based here in the UK.
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Join me and my cameraman
and fellow researcher,
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Barry Fitzgerald as we travel
to the Southern Hemisphere
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and uncover the mysteries
surrounding this discovery,
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securing much more information
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and interviewing the people
that bore this explosive find.
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[mysterious music]
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Against all odds, we
must navigate our way
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to a secret location
to view the body
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amidst government attempts
to seize the evidence
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and capture those involved.
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This is our journey and we'll
be keeping you up-to-date
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every step of the way.
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[engine revving]
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[adventurous music]
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We obviously got
some delays today.
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Hopefully, we'll be back
on track very shortly.
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As it stands at
this moment in time,
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we're just gonna have
to join the queue,
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just try to get all
this stuff through
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as best we possibly can.
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[adventurous music]
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After a delay at
Manchester International,
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believe there was some
type of scare, evacuations.
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It was absolutely a hands-on,
absolutely hands-on.
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So we had to fight and scratch
our way through the crowds.
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Battling with the equipment.
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Battling with the heat
'cause it was so humid.
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We're now just
cruising over Madrid
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due to land finish [mumbles].
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As you can see, it's beautiful
out there, it's 35 degrees.
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We're already
absolutely exhausted,
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that's long before we're called.
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A lot more air miles
to cover.
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And of course, to the
foothills of the Andes,
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Southern America,
it's a long way.
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We're getting
there step-by-step,
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we're just gonna chisel
away at the miles.
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[adventurous music]
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Well, we've now boarded the...
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Plane that's going to Madrid.
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Big plane, all the
way, 12-hour flight.
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It's gonna be a long flight,
so we'll see how things go.
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I'm tired already.
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[adventurous music]
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- [Barry] This is the remaining
leg of our mammoth journey,
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which will take us to Cusco,
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a town hidden in the
Andes mountain range.
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but before we departed
from Lima Airport,
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we happened upon a
strange encounter,
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which left both of
us a little unnerved
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by what we were
about to walk into.
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- Well, we were...
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We were just leaving
Lima Airport actually,
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We just sat there
[mumbles] and somebody
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came over to talk with us,
a conversation exchange,
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where we were pretty much warned
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about not talking
aloud about what,
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still sounds so crazy, all
this, to be honest with you.
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I mean, I don't know what
I've got myself into.
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It's, I'm absolutely paranoid,
never been like this before.
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But what's really
interesting is,
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is that some information
was exchanged
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where we need to know
who this person is,
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totally shocked us,
just came out the plane.
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There's a lot more seems been
going on than meets the eye,
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and sounds like something
straight out of a
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[airplane rumbling
drowns out speaker]
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never seen anything like
it, for god's sakes.
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We can't talk too
much about this.
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This time, we're on the plane,
we're leaving Lima, Peru,
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get back to hotel
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and we'll be able to
explain a little bit more.
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At this moment in
time, can't talk.
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Talk about
cloak and dagger.
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[adventurous music]
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[speaking in foreign language]
[crowd applauding]
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[suspenseful music]
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Oh well.
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We finally got to
the hotel in Cusco,
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literally with 15
minutes to spare.
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We're gonna be meeting
up with Thierry.
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He's the middleman between
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the discoverer of the mummy
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and the footage that we received
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back in April of this year.
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We're gonna be meeting
up with him very shortly
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to finding out what's
exactly been going on
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and we'll keep you
posted as it happens.
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[adventurous music]
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- [Barry] Steve
just had enough time
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to change before the meeting.
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And I, to set up a
camera to record it.
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- Hey, you're lucky.
- Okay, they never been there.
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But they're talking
on behalf of--
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- [Steve] Right, they said
they mostly need information.
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- Yes.
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[speaking in foreign language]
[telephone ringing]
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- [Steve] We were determined
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to get as much
information as possible.
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[speaking in foreign language]
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- Yes, he say one of the most
important points is the place,
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where they find--
- He said--
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- They can't say where.
- That's okay, secret.
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[speaking in foreign language]
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- They say that place
where they can be,
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there is a very high
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electronic magnetic--
- Okay.
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[speaking in foreign language]
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- They keep in touch.
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[speaking in foreign language]
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And they also saw life.
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[speaking in foreign language]
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The size...
[speaking in foreign language]
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Into meters, they escape.
[speaking in foreign language]
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- [Barry] We wanted to know
where they find this place
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and what was on the inside.
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[speaking in foreign language]
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- They found them
in mountain, yes.
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[speaking in foreign language]
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It's like a cave.
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And then you have to go down.
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Two meters, go down.
[speaking in foreign language]
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And then from there, they
found different tunnels.
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[speaking in foreign language]
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Different levels, tunnels.
- Cave.
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- [Barry] The third
and final individual
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from the internal circle
of the Inkari Institute
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arrived at the meeting.
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- Hi.
- Ed.
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- Hi, nice to meet you.
- Nice to meet you.
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[speaking in foreign language]
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- [Barry] The implications
that this may have
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for world religions is also
brought up in the meeting.
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- He believed that if
this is not a fraud,
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then it can change the world.
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- It could.
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[speaking in foreign language]
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- Yes, he say that there
is many implications,
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like political--
- It could change the world.
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- They don't want to
be involved in that.
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- Okay.
- They want is to--
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- Is not a fake.
- Yes.
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- Yeah, that is not a fake.
- If is not a fake.
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[speaking in foreign language]
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- [Flor] They are
always in doubt.
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- [Barry] Our heads
were left spinning
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from what we had been told
and there was the promise
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of obtaining even
more information.
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- Well, we've just finished
that meeting with Thierry
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and a couple of his associates.
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It was a lot more information
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than we could ever have imagined
for, to be honest with you.
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I'm quite surprised to find out
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there's a lot of dodgy
stuff going on, it's wild.
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I mean, dodgy dealings.
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We're talking an
international racket here
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of European and Asian people,
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hierarchy, got a lot of money,
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those sort of people
that we're talking about
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might be buying
artifacts illegally.
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And that seems to be the case,
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and it's absolutely fascinating.
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But the more we get
into this, the worse,
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the bigger the hole is getting.
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I don't know, I mean, sometimes
you just want to stop,
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but we are finding
more and more L,
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which is just expanding
and expanding,
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opening new doors of
research and information,
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which is all a bit
worrying, to be quite frank.
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And we've got some more
information coming tomorrow.
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We've got more meetings to do,
we've got more filming to do
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and we're gonna
be told even some,
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a lot more things tomorrow
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which we've already had an
inkling of what's coming.
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It's gonna be
absolutely fascinating.
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So we'll keep you in tuned
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as to what unfolds when
and where it happens.
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Thierry is battling to keep
artifacts in the country.
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It's as simple as that.
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He thinks it's important
that they stay in Peru.
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And of course, some
of these things,
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probably a lot of these things,
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are actually getting out there.
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And some of the things that
we've actually been told
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is absolutely incredible,
to be honest with you,
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at least one of those
things was apparently
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just like we got
some more footage.
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There's some at the
Roswell incident.
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This foil unfolds itself,
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apparently some
of this was found
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and was sold for only $8,000
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to somebody in Asia.
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I mean, that's just incredible,
you can't even fathom that.
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If that was true,
if that be true,
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then there is an
international market for this,
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for these discoveries,
and we've been told
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that there's a lot more
discoveries to come.
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We've had an inkling as to
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what that might
consist of tonight
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and we were completely,
absolute completely blown away,
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with some of the things
that we've been shown.
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Some of the photographs
that would be
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put out in front of us
is quite incredible.
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And we're gonna be finding
out a lot more tomorrow.
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[upbeat vocalizing music]
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Now, in about 15 minutes,
we're gonna be catching a taxi
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and we're gonna be heading
to the Inkari Institute.
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We're gonna be needing
to talk to Thierry
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about some of the
biggest questions
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everyone seems to be
posing over the Internet
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right at this moment in time,
questions about the mummy.
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Now not only that, we're
gonna be finding out
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a little bit about
Thierry's work,
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the whereabout is, the
mummy is, the findings
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and of course, a little bit
about the Institute itself.
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So it's gonna really
interesting, so stick with us.
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We hope to get some answers.
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[adventurous music]
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- Can you tell me a little bit
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about the work that
the Institute does
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and how far do you travel?
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- And we can see obviously
from around the room,
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it's full of books,
it's full of research,
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it's full of reports, projects.
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So you collect the archives
and keep all the information.
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So more recently, over the
Internet, there's been some
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remarkable information
has been released
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in regarding some unusual bodies
that have been discovered.
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- Knocked on the door, right.
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- Small body, organs, yes.
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- The most recent discovery,
I assume, is Maria.
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- With all the organs,
yes, that's a body.
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- Yes, 'cause they
initially said
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it was a mummy, didn't they?
250
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Yes, the Internet.
[speaking in foreign language]
251
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- What has been a huge
amount of interest recently
252
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over the Internet worldwide
253
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in regarding the
discovery of this body
254
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and of course, numerous people
have been also analyzing it.
255
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Now the most unusual
thing about this body
256
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is that it's got only three
fingers and only three toes.
257
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- Three fingers.
- Three fingers
258
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and three toes, now what
is unusual about Maria
259
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is that she's covered in
something that looks white.
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Does Thierry have any
idea what that is?
261
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- [Woman] The small bodies.
262
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- [Woman] The body of the Greys.
263
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- [Woman] Yes.
264
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- And are they the
same color, or white?
265
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- [Woman] No no, the gray--
- Those Greys?
266
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- [Woman] He say that the
Greys, they have slightly white.
267
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- [Woman] And it looks like
in the past were taken.
268
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- Were taken.
- Yes.
269
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- Okay, and we don't know
what this white substance is
270
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on the body of Maria,
we're waiting for analysis.
271
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- So Maria may have been
taken from one place
272
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and moved to somewhere else and
this may be something to do,
273
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why she's covered in white.
274
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- Okay, so we
really don't know--
275
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- Not yet.
- We know there's something,
276
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but we're not too sure and
analysis is taking place.
277
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- Yes.
- Was analysis taking place
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from their hands as
well as the body?
279
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- Yes.
- Yeah, and we're waiting
280
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on information coming
back from that.
281
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- [Woman] They're going
to say about Maria.
282
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- [Woman] Si, no, you
can see the digits.
283
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- The digits, the fingers.
284
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Right.
- The foot of Maria.
285
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- Very long.
- Very long.
286
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- Yes.
287
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- They're very very hard to
fake, double ridges, as we know.
288
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Fascinating, wonderful.
289
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- Incredible.
- Incredible.
290
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- Now, looking at the
feet, it doesn't look like
291
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Maria would have been
able to walk very well.
292
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- Has anybody suggested
293
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that it could be amphibian?
294
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That they may have been wet?
295
00:21:01,259 --> 00:21:02,156
- No, no no no.
- No?
296
00:21:02,190 --> 00:21:03,502
'Cause they don't, no ears.
297
00:21:05,849 --> 00:21:09,991
- Okay, I'm just curious if
anybody had made a suggestion.
298
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Because we're trying
to find out what,
299
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lots of people think that it
might be extraterrestrial.
300
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This is the sort of thing
it's on the Internet.
301
00:21:23,971 --> 00:21:26,836
- [Woman] Yeah, Maria
looks like between humans--
302
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- A mix.
- A new breed.
303
00:21:29,045 --> 00:21:30,771
- A mix, a new breed.
304
00:21:34,222 --> 00:21:35,707
- It is, yes, yes.
305
00:21:39,055 --> 00:21:41,782
- [Woman] We had
the opportunity.
306
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- [Woman] To exam.
307
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- A baby.
- Right.
308
00:21:51,999 --> 00:21:56,624
- [Woman] Three
fingers, three toes.
309
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- [Woman] There
is a possibility.
310
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- [Woman] They're
going to present.
311
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- [Woman] They try to
let the world know.
312
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- Let the world know.
313
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- Yes.
- Fake.
314
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- Fraud or something.
- Yes.
315
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- Right, so we'll talk,
what we're getting to now,
to the crunch of the matter,
316
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is that there has been some
of the bodies located as well,
317
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discovered, and some
of these bodies have,
318
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it's a being that
seems to have a neck
319
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it can move up and
down just slightly.
320
00:22:37,907 --> 00:22:40,703
The Steven Spielberg ET, just
as our people are saying,
321
00:22:40,737 --> 00:22:42,981
which is fascinating, but
they believe that they are
322
00:22:43,015 --> 00:22:45,501
actually absolutely
real, they're real
323
00:22:45,535 --> 00:22:48,711
and they are referring
to them as small beings,
324
00:22:48,745 --> 00:22:51,955
bit like the alien Greys
that we heard of today.
325
00:22:51,990 --> 00:22:55,856
And again, a lot more
information is need
to come to light,
326
00:22:55,890 --> 00:22:57,340
but some of these
bodies, which is,
327
00:22:57,375 --> 00:22:59,377
this is a real important part,
328
00:22:59,411 --> 00:23:02,310
some of these bodies
have been put together,
329
00:23:02,345 --> 00:23:05,003
maybe manufactured by somebody
330
00:23:05,037 --> 00:23:07,523
and we don't know
who and we don't why.
331
00:23:07,557 --> 00:23:10,457
Has the Peruvian government
332
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been interested in
trying to find out more?
333
00:23:21,329 --> 00:23:23,815
- Credible scientists
apparently have done some work
334
00:23:23,849 --> 00:23:25,230
and apparently are confirming
335
00:23:25,264 --> 00:23:28,129
that there are some
unusualities about this.
336
00:23:28,164 --> 00:23:29,683
Is there a press
conference coming up?
337
00:23:29,717 --> 00:23:31,374
A press announcement coming up?
338
00:23:38,485 --> 00:23:41,833
- Okay, so we hope there'll
be more information's
339
00:23:41,867 --> 00:23:44,732
gonna come to light,
we wait until tomorrow.
340
00:23:45,940 --> 00:23:48,115
Well, what can I say, I
mean, tonight has just,
341
00:23:48,149 --> 00:23:51,083
just has been a mind-blowing
session of interviews
342
00:23:51,118 --> 00:23:54,293
with these guys from
the Inkari Institute.
343
00:23:54,328 --> 00:23:57,227
And to be honest with you,
I really do feel for them,
344
00:23:57,262 --> 00:23:59,333
because it does seem that
they really are been placed
345
00:23:59,367 --> 00:24:01,887
right in the middle of this
between the discoveries,
346
00:24:01,922 --> 00:24:05,788
literally, as you heard him
say, just turned up here
347
00:24:05,822 --> 00:24:09,619
and dropped these damn
bodies on their counter,
348
00:24:09,654 --> 00:24:12,070
and say, "Hey guys, you
deal with it," you know?
349
00:24:13,416 --> 00:24:15,453
And at the same time,
they're trying to figure out,
350
00:24:15,487 --> 00:24:17,040
"How are we gonna
deal with this?
351
00:24:17,075 --> 00:24:19,595
"We've got to deal
with the government.
We got to deal with the press."
352
00:24:19,629 --> 00:24:23,081
It's a monstrous, absolute
monstrous task that befell them.
353
00:24:23,115 --> 00:24:25,324
Now, what's really
interesting is that the fact
354
00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:28,293
is that they've already stated
that some of these bodies
355
00:24:28,327 --> 00:24:31,952
have been seem to be doctored
and that's wonderful,
356
00:24:31,986 --> 00:24:34,610
because the sincerity
coming from these guys
357
00:24:34,644 --> 00:24:36,266
that they're trying
to find the truth,
358
00:24:36,301 --> 00:24:37,992
they're trying to figure out
359
00:24:38,027 --> 00:24:40,132
is there anything unusual
about these things,
360
00:24:40,167 --> 00:24:43,411
especially the latest,
which is confirmed,
361
00:24:43,446 --> 00:24:46,242
it's not a mummy, it is a body.
362
00:24:46,276 --> 00:24:47,899
This latest body's
been discovered,
363
00:24:47,933 --> 00:24:49,417
so we're referring to as Maria.
364
00:24:49,452 --> 00:24:50,902
Now some analysis
have been taking place
365
00:24:50,936 --> 00:24:54,526
and we ask the questions
that, is covered in white,
366
00:24:54,561 --> 00:24:56,770
what is it, is it some type
of plaster, they don't know.
367
00:24:56,804 --> 00:24:59,324
They don't know, now that
means, that's telling me
368
00:24:59,358 --> 00:25:02,258
they've not seen this
before on other bodies,
369
00:25:02,292 --> 00:25:04,778
which makes it quite unique,
but nevertheless though,
370
00:25:04,812 --> 00:25:06,227
they're waiting on information.
371
00:25:06,262 --> 00:25:07,608
DNA has been taken
from the bodies,
372
00:25:07,643 --> 00:25:09,299
DNA has been take
from the hands.
373
00:25:09,334 --> 00:25:10,887
We've talked about the bones,
we've talked about the feet,
374
00:25:10,922 --> 00:25:14,270
we're looking at the anatomy
of this thing, what is it?
375
00:25:14,304 --> 00:25:17,445
Is it, as they say,
could this possibly be
376
00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:19,862
a new type of species,
we just don't know.
377
00:25:19,896 --> 00:25:21,553
We're waiting on this
information coming back,
378
00:25:21,588 --> 00:25:23,866
and that'll determine
exactly what this thing is.
379
00:25:23,900 --> 00:25:26,834
In the meantime, these
guys are in the middle
380
00:25:28,249 --> 00:25:31,149
of a storm, a media storm
throughout the whole incident.
381
00:25:31,183 --> 00:25:33,634
And it's also things going
on in the background as well.
382
00:25:33,669 --> 00:25:36,188
It seems to be like a,
383
00:25:36,223 --> 00:25:40,158
a group of individuals around
the world that purchase
384
00:25:40,192 --> 00:25:43,886
such items like this from
those that discover them.
385
00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:46,440
And of course what they've
said right from beginning is
386
00:25:46,474 --> 00:25:49,063
they've always wanted
to make sure that
they keep these things in Peru.
387
00:25:49,098 --> 00:25:52,101
So anybody out there is going
to be asking these questions.
388
00:25:52,135 --> 00:25:54,310
I suggest, travel halfway
around the world like we have
389
00:25:54,344 --> 00:25:56,381
and talk to these
guys face-to-face
390
00:25:56,415 --> 00:25:58,763
'cause they have a story
to tell and this story
391
00:25:58,797 --> 00:26:01,835
could be potentially
one of the biggest ever,
392
00:26:01,869 --> 00:26:03,353
as far as I'm concerned.
393
00:26:04,631 --> 00:26:07,357
[mysterious music]
394
00:26:07,392 --> 00:26:10,498
[telephone ringing]
395
00:26:17,644 --> 00:26:20,163
The early hours of this morning,
we received a phone call,
396
00:26:20,198 --> 00:26:22,200
pretty much out the blue,
kept us up pretty much
397
00:26:22,234 --> 00:26:25,237
most of the rest of
the early morning here.
398
00:26:25,272 --> 00:26:27,067
It was a phone call to
say that we might have
399
00:26:27,101 --> 00:26:29,828
the opportunity to actually
witness some things.
400
00:26:29,863 --> 00:26:33,280
Artifacts or whatever these
will be, I don't have no idea,
401
00:26:33,314 --> 00:26:35,109
but it's got to be kept secret.
402
00:26:35,144 --> 00:26:37,940
I mean, it's a location that
we're not allowed to film,
403
00:26:37,974 --> 00:26:39,458
we're not allowed
to film the person
404
00:26:39,493 --> 00:26:41,495
who's going to be picking
us up here at the hotel
405
00:26:41,529 --> 00:26:45,154
nor that of the driver or
the vehicle, and most of all,
406
00:26:45,188 --> 00:26:46,707
we're not allowed to take
our cell phones with us.
407
00:26:46,742 --> 00:26:48,226
Now that sparks off a big debate
408
00:26:48,260 --> 00:26:49,814
between myself and Barry
here because we're trying
409
00:26:49,848 --> 00:26:52,092
to roll it backwards and
forwards, what we're gonna do
410
00:26:52,126 --> 00:26:54,646
because it doesn't,
it does not sit well
411
00:26:54,681 --> 00:26:56,786
because we got no communication,
if anything goes wrong,
412
00:26:56,821 --> 00:26:58,029
we don't know what
we're gonna do.
413
00:26:58,063 --> 00:26:59,824
But we do have a bit
of a back-up plan
414
00:26:59,858 --> 00:27:02,585
and this is this wonderful
little watch on my hand.
415
00:27:02,620 --> 00:27:06,658
It does record, so we are
gonna set that recording.
416
00:27:06,693 --> 00:27:08,936
We never know what
we're gonna get.
417
00:27:08,971 --> 00:27:10,835
But we'll just have to see.
418
00:27:10,869 --> 00:27:13,872
[suspenseful music]
419
00:27:53,291 --> 00:27:55,983
We're getting close
to this location
420
00:27:56,018 --> 00:27:57,847
where we're supposed
to be being taken to.
421
00:27:57,882 --> 00:27:59,607
No idea where we are.
422
00:27:59,642 --> 00:28:02,887
It's a bit hard to actually
talk, very thin, the air.
423
00:28:04,095 --> 00:28:06,545
We've been climbing for
a good, I don't know,
424
00:28:06,580 --> 00:28:08,686
seems about 45 minutes, an hour,
425
00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:10,860
and then we started
off at 11,000 feet.
426
00:28:10,895 --> 00:28:14,070
God knows what we are
at this moment in time.
427
00:28:14,105 --> 00:28:16,797
But we've been now instructed
to turn our cameras off.
428
00:28:18,212 --> 00:28:20,663
What also is quite concerning
is that we weren't allowed
429
00:28:20,698 --> 00:28:22,527
to bring our cell phones with us
430
00:28:22,561 --> 00:28:24,874
and of course, that's a big
concern as you well imagine,
431
00:28:24,909 --> 00:28:26,980
but we had to face
the situation.
432
00:28:27,014 --> 00:28:29,258
And myself and Barry
did have this discussion
433
00:28:30,397 --> 00:28:33,400
back at the hotel,
should we pretty much
434
00:28:33,434 --> 00:28:35,885
just throw our cards in, put
our tails between our legs,
435
00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:38,163
go back home and just
not go through it
436
00:28:38,198 --> 00:28:40,200
because it is a bit
concerning this.
437
00:28:40,234 --> 00:28:42,685
But we've decided against
that, we decided to,
438
00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:44,963
well, you know, "What the
hell, we're gonna go for it."
439
00:28:44,998 --> 00:28:47,103
We don't know what
we're gonna be shown
440
00:28:47,138 --> 00:28:49,105
and we'd be taken to
a certain location,
441
00:28:49,140 --> 00:28:53,075
I have no idea where
we are, but concerned?
442
00:28:53,109 --> 00:28:54,835
Yes, absolutely concerned.
443
00:28:56,561 --> 00:28:57,769
Yeah, we are, we will do.
444
00:28:57,804 --> 00:28:59,253
We are turning off
the cameras now.
445
00:28:59,288 --> 00:29:01,186
And we'll see what happens.
446
00:29:04,224 --> 00:29:06,536
- [Barry] With our high
altitude trip over,
447
00:29:06,571 --> 00:29:10,540
we were escorted into a
building we'd never seen before
448
00:29:10,575 --> 00:29:14,027
and into a room where men
waited in surgical dress.
449
00:29:15,028 --> 00:29:16,615
Within moments of our arrival,
450
00:29:16,650 --> 00:29:20,723
we too had to dress in the
same surgical gowns and masks
451
00:29:20,758 --> 00:29:23,588
and body after body
was presented to us
452
00:29:23,622 --> 00:29:25,832
to film and document.
453
00:29:25,866 --> 00:29:28,800
[mysterious music]
454
00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:40,260
- Now you see the teeth.
455
00:29:40,294 --> 00:29:42,918
What we've got here is
the side of the skull
456
00:29:42,952 --> 00:29:46,611
showing the teeth which
could be obviously from fish,
457
00:29:46,645 --> 00:29:50,995
doesn't look like human teeth,
and you can see the ribcage,
458
00:29:51,029 --> 00:29:53,135
it looks like it's manufactured.
459
00:29:53,169 --> 00:29:58,174
The arm length down here too,
it's lower than its knees.
460
00:29:58,347 --> 00:30:00,314
And of course, the
feet at the bottom.
461
00:30:01,764 --> 00:30:04,525
There's a side profile of that
particular x-ray of the body,
462
00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:09,565
again confirming that this
is in fact been manufactured.
463
00:30:10,290 --> 00:30:12,671
[mysterious music]
464
00:30:18,919 --> 00:30:21,646
[people speaking softly]
465
00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:24,338
- [Steve] Yeah, they have
a lot of golden color.
466
00:30:24,373 --> 00:30:25,961
So what we're dealing with here,
467
00:30:27,583 --> 00:30:29,999
what we're dealing with
here is these three hands
468
00:30:31,449 --> 00:30:33,934
and what we've been told is,
is that they seem to have
469
00:30:33,969 --> 00:30:36,005
some type of implant
on top of them
470
00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:39,250
and as we can see,
we'll get some close-ups
471
00:30:39,284 --> 00:30:41,045
but as we can see
there is a design,
472
00:30:41,079 --> 00:30:43,668
it looks like it's
gold in coloration,
473
00:30:43,702 --> 00:30:45,256
some type of pattern, however,
474
00:30:46,464 --> 00:30:49,087
right across the
bridge of the hand
475
00:30:49,122 --> 00:30:50,399
and the same for this one.
476
00:30:51,849 --> 00:30:53,333
Looks like these two seem
to have that marking,
477
00:30:53,367 --> 00:30:56,681
and this one doesn't, but
as you can tell from these,
478
00:30:56,715 --> 00:30:59,960
they're very similar,
three fingers
479
00:30:59,995 --> 00:31:03,653
and of course, dealing with
again, a number of extra bones.
480
00:31:03,688 --> 00:31:07,761
We're dealing with one,
two, three, four, five.
481
00:31:07,795 --> 00:31:10,384
But we do want to have--
- There's--
482
00:31:10,419 --> 00:31:13,111
- Six, six is the tip.
483
00:31:14,009 --> 00:31:17,012
[mysterious music]
484
00:31:21,948 --> 00:31:24,847
Okay.
So what we're actually seeing
here is one of the hands.
485
00:31:24,882 --> 00:31:28,023
This is representing this
metal plate, implant,
486
00:31:28,057 --> 00:31:30,163
whatever you want to call it
487
00:31:30,197 --> 00:31:33,269
and as we mentioned
earlier, it's gold in color,
488
00:31:33,304 --> 00:31:35,789
it has some type
of pattern to it
489
00:31:35,823 --> 00:31:37,825
and it does feature
on two of the hands.
490
00:31:38,965 --> 00:31:41,726
It's definitely visible
throughout the X-ray.
491
00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:43,141
As for what that
actually represents,
492
00:31:43,176 --> 00:31:45,419
if it's metal,
what type of metal?
493
00:31:46,627 --> 00:31:48,077
That's completely
unknown, like I say,
494
00:31:48,112 --> 00:31:50,977
analysis is currently taking
place, samples have been taken,
495
00:31:51,011 --> 00:31:53,634
and you can see the six
bones in the fingers.
496
00:31:55,188 --> 00:31:59,330
And what is very, very
interesting is how
these are actually
497
00:31:59,364 --> 00:32:02,022
put together here, then joined,
498
00:32:02,057 --> 00:32:04,473
and it looks like there's
further bones as well.
499
00:32:05,646 --> 00:32:09,029
Now, anatomically, I'm
no expert, anatomically,
500
00:32:10,237 --> 00:32:13,378
but what I can say is
that it's, all these,
501
00:32:13,413 --> 00:32:16,071
these particular hands
are all going to fall down
502
00:32:16,105 --> 00:32:18,452
to the analysis, the
independent analysis
503
00:32:18,487 --> 00:32:22,042
that's taking place,
maybe secondary analysis
504
00:32:22,077 --> 00:32:26,495
might be necessary to
confirm if this structure
505
00:32:27,323 --> 00:32:28,635
is in fact correct.
506
00:32:30,085 --> 00:32:33,571
So right of this moment, it's
open, it's open at the moment.
507
00:32:33,605 --> 00:32:36,850
We don't know, but
what we do know is that
508
00:32:36,884 --> 00:32:39,784
we're waiting on analysis
to come back to confirm
509
00:32:39,818 --> 00:32:43,857
if there's anything authentic
about these particular hands.
510
00:32:43,891 --> 00:32:46,618
But what is interesting is these
are significantly different
511
00:32:46,653 --> 00:32:49,414
than what we've just
seen on a smaller body.
512
00:32:49,449 --> 00:32:52,762
And it seems to be a consistent
amount of bone and muscle
513
00:32:52,797 --> 00:32:55,973
that seems to be evident within
the top part of this hand,
514
00:32:57,422 --> 00:32:59,217
as they are in the other two.
515
00:32:59,252 --> 00:33:01,357
I wouldn't really want to
comment without the analysis
516
00:33:01,392 --> 00:33:03,670
confirming how these
are actually authentic.
517
00:33:03,704 --> 00:33:04,878
But at the end of the day,
518
00:33:04,912 --> 00:33:06,086
if anything comes
back from these hands,
519
00:33:06,121 --> 00:33:08,261
they are or have
not been altered,
520
00:33:10,297 --> 00:33:13,438
well, it is what it
is, as you can see.
521
00:33:13,473 --> 00:33:15,371
A hand may be of something,
522
00:33:15,406 --> 00:33:17,718
which might actually be
a new type of species
523
00:33:17,753 --> 00:33:21,550
or other type of species, an
unknown species, for sure.
524
00:33:23,655 --> 00:33:26,417
We were looking at two skulls
here, and as you can see,
525
00:33:28,074 --> 00:33:30,559
the biggest difference
here is the elongation
526
00:33:30,593 --> 00:33:34,011
because we've all seen skulls
probably from monkeys before
527
00:33:34,045 --> 00:33:36,185
and as you can see,
the long elongation,
528
00:33:37,669 --> 00:33:41,018
which is something unusual,
though they do have the size
529
00:33:42,433 --> 00:33:47,093
from the front of monkey,
but very large eye sockets.
530
00:33:48,335 --> 00:33:50,268
They does have this
long elongation.
531
00:33:50,303 --> 00:33:53,996
Apart from that, it does seem
to have some cranial ridges.
532
00:33:54,031 --> 00:33:55,618
We have a sense of cranial ridge
533
00:33:56,516 --> 00:33:58,380
and we have two cranial arches
534
00:33:58,414 --> 00:34:00,589
coming around on either side,
535
00:34:00,623 --> 00:34:03,074
and that's exactly
the same for this one,
536
00:34:03,109 --> 00:34:05,456
which is almost identical;
to be honest, really
537
00:34:05,490 --> 00:34:07,251
there's not much
difference between them.
538
00:34:07,285 --> 00:34:11,289
We are told that there's
something that's inside
539
00:34:12,463 --> 00:34:14,154
of this, maybe a little
part of the vertebrae,
540
00:34:14,189 --> 00:34:17,916
maybe a little bit of both, but
also on this particular one,
541
00:34:17,951 --> 00:34:22,852
what we can see is that the
first part of the vertebrae,
542
00:34:23,784 --> 00:34:24,958
as we can see here,
543
00:34:24,992 --> 00:34:26,787
we'll take some close-up
shots of these here,
544
00:34:28,099 --> 00:34:30,446
and there's a probably
similar in weight.
545
00:34:30,481 --> 00:34:32,586
And what's interesting about
these particular X-rays
546
00:34:32,621 --> 00:34:35,106
of the two skulls that
we've just been looking at
547
00:34:35,141 --> 00:34:37,212
is that the first thing
that is interesting,
548
00:34:37,246 --> 00:34:40,007
but I want you to note the
elongation of these skulls
549
00:34:40,042 --> 00:34:42,251
because this is one of
the biggest mysteries
550
00:34:42,286 --> 00:34:43,563
about these skulls is it's,
551
00:34:43,597 --> 00:34:46,221
purely it's shape and
the cranial ridging.
552
00:34:46,255 --> 00:34:49,224
You can see from the cranial
ridging and you can also see
553
00:34:49,258 --> 00:34:53,090
what looks to be some type
of membrane on both skulls
554
00:34:53,124 --> 00:34:55,299
as it's shaped at the back
555
00:34:55,333 --> 00:34:58,060
and also you can clearly
see the jawbone in there.
556
00:34:58,095 --> 00:35:00,200
But again like I
mentioned, no teeth.
557
00:35:00,235 --> 00:35:03,652
Looks to be large eyes,
and we're not too sure
558
00:35:03,686 --> 00:35:05,861
what these are,
what this represents
559
00:35:05,895 --> 00:35:07,932
in the scans, in these X-rays.
560
00:35:09,002 --> 00:35:10,176
It has been suggested
that it may be
561
00:35:10,210 --> 00:35:12,592
some type of metal
plates in there.
562
00:35:13,938 --> 00:35:16,078
It's a little bit
unsure; I'm not too sure.
563
00:35:16,113 --> 00:35:20,151
You can see the center
position here to the vertebrae
564
00:35:20,186 --> 00:35:22,498
and of course, causing
the skull be able
565
00:35:22,533 --> 00:35:25,984
to be regularly
balanced properly.
566
00:35:26,019 --> 00:35:28,918
[mysterious music]
567
00:35:31,714 --> 00:35:33,544
- [Steve] Okay, so what
we're looking at here
568
00:35:33,578 --> 00:35:37,996
is a secondary body, a
little bit longer and larger
569
00:35:38,031 --> 00:35:40,447
than the first one
that we saw tonight.
570
00:35:40,482 --> 00:35:43,450
- [Barry] Steve thought it
prudent to measure the body,
571
00:35:43,485 --> 00:35:47,489
which was 25 1/2 inches long,
and at its widest point,
572
00:35:47,523 --> 00:35:52,494
between the shoulders, was
a meager 7 1/2 inches wide.
573
00:35:52,528 --> 00:35:54,116
- [Steve] Now, what's
interesting is,
574
00:35:54,151 --> 00:35:56,291
from what we looked at earlier
575
00:35:56,325 --> 00:36:00,087
were the two previous spore
skulls, that this looks to have
576
00:36:00,122 --> 00:36:02,745
the same type of skull that
we've recently just seen,
577
00:36:02,780 --> 00:36:05,092
but in fact, it's attached
to the body in this occasion.
578
00:36:05,127 --> 00:36:06,991
And if we actually take a
measure of this and we know
579
00:36:07,025 --> 00:36:09,304
what we were measuring
from last time, is that
580
00:36:12,099 --> 00:36:13,687
he's coming in at
70 millimeters,
581
00:36:13,722 --> 00:36:15,448
which is roughly round
about the same size
582
00:36:15,482 --> 00:36:17,691
as the previous two skulls,
583
00:36:17,726 --> 00:36:20,280
but the same type
of cranial ridging,
584
00:36:21,212 --> 00:36:23,387
the large eye sockets
585
00:36:24,767 --> 00:36:27,184
and we can see the central
point from vertebrae
586
00:36:28,254 --> 00:36:30,739
and that long
elongation of the head.
587
00:36:32,189 --> 00:36:34,363
It's also interesting to
know that we've been told
588
00:36:34,398 --> 00:36:37,228
from the X-rays that
have been coming out
589
00:36:38,712 --> 00:36:42,060
is that it looks to
have a skeletal neck,
590
00:36:44,201 --> 00:36:45,823
which may have been adjustable,
591
00:36:47,342 --> 00:36:50,137
which may have got
short and larger.
592
00:36:51,311 --> 00:36:54,797
Also it's interesting to
look, note on its legs,
593
00:36:54,832 --> 00:36:59,250
that it's right hip
joint seems to have
594
00:36:59,285 --> 00:37:01,701
what is referred to
as an implant ball,
595
00:37:01,735 --> 00:37:05,325
some type of mechanism in there,
596
00:37:06,706 --> 00:37:09,812
similar to what you probably
find in elderly people
597
00:37:09,847 --> 00:37:13,747
when they have some
type of hip replacement
598
00:37:13,782 --> 00:37:15,197
or something of that degree.
599
00:37:16,302 --> 00:37:17,924
It's got a very, I
have to admit though,
600
00:37:17,958 --> 00:37:21,307
it's got a very,
very unusual posture,
601
00:37:21,341 --> 00:37:24,310
because it doesn't look like
602
00:37:27,313 --> 00:37:28,900
nothing I've ever seen
before, to be honest with you,
603
00:37:28,935 --> 00:37:31,248
the way this is designed
here at the top,
604
00:37:31,282 --> 00:37:32,318
very, very straight,
605
00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:37,081
very broad, very
unusual rib cage.
606
00:37:38,220 --> 00:37:39,842
Again, like most
of the other things
607
00:37:39,877 --> 00:37:41,361
that we've been seeing tonight
608
00:37:42,500 --> 00:37:45,089
has this covering of
this white, white powder
609
00:37:46,263 --> 00:37:48,817
and as to what that
is is still a mystery
610
00:37:48,851 --> 00:37:53,270
and apparently waiting
on analysis to come back
611
00:37:53,304 --> 00:37:54,995
to confirm what
that consists of.
612
00:37:55,030 --> 00:37:57,826
- So what we're seeing on the
X-ray for this particular body
613
00:37:57,860 --> 00:38:00,415
is an oversized
clavicle bone here,
614
00:38:00,449 --> 00:38:02,382
as you can see,
across the tops here.
615
00:38:02,417 --> 00:38:04,419
Also what is interesting
is that doesn't seem
616
00:38:04,453 --> 00:38:07,836
to have any ball joints at
the top part of its arms.
617
00:38:07,870 --> 00:38:09,320
So I'm not too sure how
618
00:38:09,355 --> 00:38:11,598
that would have actually
moved or maneuvered around.
619
00:38:11,633 --> 00:38:13,738
Also what's interesting is
that it looks like the bones
620
00:38:13,773 --> 00:38:16,500
have knitted, which would
suggest that it is in fact
621
00:38:16,534 --> 00:38:19,226
an [mumbles] of an adult
than it is a child.
622
00:38:19,261 --> 00:38:22,368
And the absence of being
able to fit lungs in,
623
00:38:22,402 --> 00:38:23,541
we have to ask the question,
624
00:38:23,576 --> 00:38:26,889
"How did this
creature breathe?"รบ
625
00:38:26,924 --> 00:38:28,132
There doesn't seem
to be any evidence
626
00:38:28,166 --> 00:38:30,410
of a nasal passage anemia,
627
00:38:30,445 --> 00:38:33,448
so either this is a completely
manufactured creature
628
00:38:33,482 --> 00:38:35,967
or it may be
something that we've,
629
00:38:36,002 --> 00:38:38,004
so profound we don't
know what it is
630
00:38:38,038 --> 00:38:41,628
and it may not have
required oxygen,
631
00:38:41,663 --> 00:38:44,148
it may not have been breathing
oxygen, we just don't know.
632
00:38:44,182 --> 00:38:48,014
We can see the obvious
deformity in the hip
633
00:38:48,048 --> 00:38:51,189
and what looks to be
the actually catching
634
00:38:51,224 --> 00:38:52,915
the metallic
implant or something
635
00:38:52,950 --> 00:38:55,435
that's been placed in the
hip to maybe strengthen it.
636
00:38:55,470 --> 00:38:57,817
Does look like there's
an abnormality there
637
00:38:57,851 --> 00:39:00,923
and of course, the
long neck as well.
638
00:39:00,958 --> 00:39:03,305
Very interesting, but we
have not seen anything
639
00:39:03,340 --> 00:39:07,723
that's really has grabbed
me, but nevertheless though,
640
00:39:07,758 --> 00:39:10,036
we're gonna have to wait for
the analysis to come back
641
00:39:10,070 --> 00:39:14,730
to confirm, is this any
known creature at all?
642
00:39:16,007 --> 00:39:18,769
A bit of a mystery at
this moment in time.
But as for the X-rays,
643
00:39:18,803 --> 00:39:21,565
I'm not very convinced
on this particular one,
644
00:39:21,599 --> 00:39:23,774
but who knows, we could
be looking at something
645
00:39:23,808 --> 00:39:26,846
that we couldn't possibly
fathom in our minds
646
00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:30,401
or if that's something which
has been, again, manipulated.
647
00:39:32,230 --> 00:39:34,681
So what we're dealing with
here is a second body,
648
00:39:36,890 --> 00:39:40,687
and lots more less
similar in size,
649
00:39:41,723 --> 00:39:43,897
though we are told that
650
00:39:43,932 --> 00:39:47,660
this represents a
female of this species.
651
00:39:47,694 --> 00:39:51,249
Notice again the same
size of the cranium,
652
00:39:52,975 --> 00:39:57,014
the same sort of arching
and face features,
653
00:39:57,048 --> 00:39:59,706
central position
on the vertebrae
654
00:39:59,741 --> 00:40:02,951
and slightly shorter
neck in this case.
655
00:40:02,985 --> 00:40:05,609
But what is most interesting
is that it looks like to be
656
00:40:05,643 --> 00:40:10,648
some type of implant,
implant there which is metal,
657
00:40:12,029 --> 00:40:15,412
which we can clearly
identify that on the X-rays.
658
00:40:15,446 --> 00:40:18,276
Not too sure what that is,
but what also is probably
659
00:40:18,311 --> 00:40:20,382
the most significant
thing about this
660
00:40:21,763 --> 00:40:24,524
is that does look to have
a raised stomach area
661
00:40:26,146 --> 00:40:28,425
and apparently,
according to the X-rays,
662
00:40:29,909 --> 00:40:34,292
it would look like there are
three bones has a purpose X
663
00:40:35,466 --> 00:40:38,435
in there, indicating
that this species
664
00:40:38,469 --> 00:40:42,646
or whatever they say is may
have been reptilean in nature.
665
00:40:44,095 --> 00:40:46,857
Nevertheless though, the
only calcareous differences
666
00:40:46,891 --> 00:40:49,860
between these two is that
one seems to have a more,
667
00:40:51,033 --> 00:40:53,553
longer neck and
this particular one
668
00:40:53,588 --> 00:40:56,660
seems to have these metal
implant, and of course,
669
00:40:56,694 --> 00:40:59,386
this raised abdomen
area where apparently
670
00:40:59,421 --> 00:41:02,459
it's housing three,
looks like three eggs.
671
00:41:04,012 --> 00:41:05,323
Very interesting, that trait is,
672
00:41:05,358 --> 00:41:07,498
particularly what we're
actually looking at is
673
00:41:07,533 --> 00:41:09,500
what looks to be the implant,
674
00:41:09,535 --> 00:41:11,916
which is across this chest area
675
00:41:11,951 --> 00:41:15,402
and also what looks to be
the housing of three eggs.
676
00:41:15,437 --> 00:41:17,681
What's interesting is
you can actually see
677
00:41:17,715 --> 00:41:20,200
the bone structures
through the axial arch
678
00:41:20,235 --> 00:41:23,203
and are transparent somewhat,
which is what you might expect
679
00:41:23,238 --> 00:41:26,137
from eggs being
placed inside a body.
680
00:41:27,553 --> 00:41:30,590
You can see that the
figure, the bone structure
681
00:41:30,625 --> 00:41:34,076
seems a lot more complete
in this particular X-ray.
682
00:41:35,561 --> 00:41:38,322
Again, doesn't look to
be housing any lungs
683
00:41:39,772 --> 00:41:42,395
and of course, if they are
eggs, we have to question,
684
00:41:42,429 --> 00:41:44,673
"Would this be
reptilian in nature?"
685
00:41:44,708 --> 00:41:47,469
Which seem to be according
to the bone structure
686
00:41:48,574 --> 00:41:49,816
that she is in fact an adult.
687
00:41:52,198 --> 00:41:54,303
The absence of
ball joints, again,
688
00:41:54,338 --> 00:41:58,653
in the lower part of pelvis,
again, are obviously missing.
689
00:42:00,447 --> 00:42:02,519
It does have again
the three fingers,
690
00:42:02,553 --> 00:42:05,245
which are very prominent
and the three toes
691
00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:08,421
and of course again,
still remains a mystery.
692
00:42:10,250 --> 00:42:12,252
Okay, we're looking
at the third body here
693
00:42:12,287 --> 00:42:15,497
and of course, it's absence
of the head, unfortunately.
694
00:42:15,532 --> 00:42:17,395
For what is probably
the most interesting
695
00:42:17,430 --> 00:42:19,915
of all three bodies
is this particular one
696
00:42:19,950 --> 00:42:23,574
in a sitting posture which
gives us maybe some idea
697
00:42:23,609 --> 00:42:25,300
if this was a real creature,
698
00:42:25,334 --> 00:42:27,647
how it would have
maybe moved around.
699
00:42:27,682 --> 00:42:28,545
Again, # here
700
00:42:29,615 --> 00:42:31,755
are the three fingers
and three toes.
701
00:42:31,789 --> 00:42:35,517
The sitting posture, what
looks to be a vertebrae.
702
00:42:35,552 --> 00:42:38,624
And what's very
interesting about this
703
00:42:39,832 --> 00:42:42,731
is that there does seem
to be some form of skin.
704
00:42:43,801 --> 00:42:46,735
[mysterious music]
705
00:42:50,912 --> 00:42:53,984
Also on top, we can
see what looks to be
706
00:42:54,018 --> 00:42:56,883
the two side muscles holding
the support of the neck,
707
00:42:56,918 --> 00:43:01,094
the neck muscles; analysis
has taken place on this,
708
00:43:01,129 --> 00:43:03,994
two independent
analysis confirmed,
709
00:43:04,028 --> 00:43:06,962
for one from Mexico, one
from the United States,
710
00:43:06,997 --> 00:43:11,691
that this is over
1,000 years of age.
711
00:43:12,899 --> 00:43:14,763
And as you can see from
that sitting posture,
712
00:43:14,798 --> 00:43:17,732
and you can see what wants
to be like a vertebrae,
713
00:43:17,766 --> 00:43:19,043
and we're down, you can see,
714
00:43:19,078 --> 00:43:21,667
the very clear bone structures
715
00:43:21,701 --> 00:43:24,635
throughout it's
arms, hands, legs,
716
00:43:24,670 --> 00:43:28,639
and of course feet, not too
sure at this moment in time
717
00:43:28,674 --> 00:43:30,434
if this actually represents,
718
00:43:30,468 --> 00:43:35,266
if it has any visible ball
joints here in its hips,
719
00:43:35,301 --> 00:43:39,098
is currently unknown,
again from its sizing
720
00:43:40,478 --> 00:43:44,793
and its position, probably
around about the 24 inches size,
721
00:43:44,828 --> 00:43:48,141
like the other two
bodies, again a mystery.
722
00:43:52,111 --> 00:43:53,526
- [Barry] Suddenly,
everything changed
723
00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:55,735
as we were introduced to Maria.
724
00:43:58,773 --> 00:44:02,086
[eerie vocalizing music]
725
00:44:19,656 --> 00:44:21,105
- So what we're
actually looking at here
726
00:44:21,140 --> 00:44:24,039
is something completely
in a different ballpark
727
00:44:24,074 --> 00:44:26,386
than what we've
been shown earlier.
728
00:44:26,421 --> 00:44:31,391
By intents and purposes,
we're looking at a body
729
00:44:32,599 --> 00:44:37,121
estimated to be 1,800
years old, I believe,
730
00:44:38,467 --> 00:44:40,677
from the analysis
currently taking place.
731
00:44:42,782 --> 00:44:44,888
And in a fetal position.
732
00:44:47,097 --> 00:44:50,859
Bone structure, anatomy, legs
733
00:44:52,033 --> 00:44:53,517
look reasonably normal.
734
00:44:54,518 --> 00:44:56,865
Arms look reasonably normal
735
00:44:56,900 --> 00:45:00,179
until we come to
the extremities.
736
00:45:00,213 --> 00:45:02,664
The extremities seem to show
737
00:45:04,079 --> 00:45:09,084
only three digits,
three toes, no thumbs.
738
00:45:12,812 --> 00:45:14,676
Of course, these
acting as balancers,
739
00:45:16,091 --> 00:45:18,438
we can see that is also,
which is very interesting,
740
00:45:19,785 --> 00:45:24,790
toenails which we
can see on the toes.
741
00:45:25,687 --> 00:45:26,895
We've also got dermal ridging,
742
00:45:28,414 --> 00:45:31,797
like fingerprints on
the bottom of the feet,
743
00:45:33,143 --> 00:45:35,110
possibly also on the hands.
744
00:45:37,423 --> 00:45:39,114
Samples have been
currently taken.
745
00:45:39,149 --> 00:45:41,668
Now this is a female was
initially thought to be a male,
746
00:45:41,703 --> 00:45:44,119
referred to as
Albert, or Alberta,
747
00:45:45,534 --> 00:45:48,952
but you see it is a female
and now referred to as Maria.
748
00:45:50,367 --> 00:45:52,679
Estimated size around
about five-foot-six.
749
00:45:54,509 --> 00:45:58,271
Currently, there's
analysis taking place,
750
00:45:58,306 --> 00:46:01,585
DNA analysis taking
place to ascertain
751
00:46:03,863 --> 00:46:07,073
if she fully human or not.
752
00:46:07,108 --> 00:46:08,109
What we're actually
looking at here, Barry,
753
00:46:08,143 --> 00:46:10,559
is of course, the X-ray of Maria
754
00:46:10,594 --> 00:46:12,872
who we've just been examining.
755
00:46:12,907 --> 00:46:16,151
Clearly massive differences
here, massive differences.
756
00:46:16,186 --> 00:46:17,912
We can clearly see
the ball joints,
757
00:46:17,946 --> 00:46:22,019
which is a very human trait,
obviously, in arms and legs.
758
00:46:22,054 --> 00:46:25,851
We can clearly also see
the vertebrae, the backbone
759
00:46:25,885 --> 00:46:28,992
and this is the legs
coming up and it's sitting
760
00:46:29,026 --> 00:46:32,581
in a bear position,
in its fetal position
761
00:46:32,616 --> 00:46:35,550
and across here very
faintly, you can actually see
762
00:46:35,584 --> 00:46:40,589
the fingers which you can see
consists of one, two, three,
763
00:46:41,901 --> 00:46:45,905
four, possibly four
sections, slightly different
764
00:46:45,940 --> 00:46:49,081
than what else we've seen
here, but nevertheless though,
765
00:46:49,115 --> 00:46:51,359
extremely long, and
they do look like
766
00:46:52,809 --> 00:46:55,742
connected bone as well.
767
00:46:55,777 --> 00:46:58,090
I wouldn't, I couldn't,
I can't see anything here
768
00:46:58,124 --> 00:47:01,403
that leads me to
believe it's been
769
00:47:01,438 --> 00:47:03,647
anatomically altered in any way,
770
00:47:05,442 --> 00:47:07,996
but of course, that's what
the experts need to tell you,
771
00:47:08,031 --> 00:47:10,033
not myself, but at
the end of the day,
772
00:47:10,067 --> 00:47:12,138
what is very interesting
is that you can see
773
00:47:12,173 --> 00:47:15,348
how the hand is come across
here, needs to be X-rayed.
774
00:47:15,383 --> 00:47:16,660
I believe further X-rays
775
00:47:16,694 --> 00:47:18,869
are going to be taking
place, maybe tomorrow.
776
00:47:18,904 --> 00:47:23,805
We're looking at what looks
to be human, a human body,
777
00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:27,705
but the most obvious
differences being the toes,
778
00:47:27,740 --> 00:47:30,777
being the fingers, and
probably the anatomy
779
00:47:30,812 --> 00:47:35,161
of the actual hand and feet
because we've noted that
780
00:47:35,196 --> 00:47:38,993
it is a possibility that
because the way the feet is,
781
00:47:39,027 --> 00:47:43,342
the feet, the actual
way, the layout of it is,
782
00:47:43,376 --> 00:47:46,863
then it would seem that
it may not have walked
783
00:47:46,897 --> 00:47:50,556
as a human being probably would,
doesn't look like the same,
784
00:47:50,590 --> 00:47:52,109
would have had the same
capabilities to do so,
785
00:47:52,144 --> 00:47:55,285
so his walking process may have
been significantly different
786
00:47:55,319 --> 00:47:59,047
than anybody, like you or me.
787
00:47:59,082 --> 00:48:03,569
We can see that her teeth,
quite relatively intact as well.
788
00:48:05,674 --> 00:48:08,160
Unsure of what age she
possibly would have been
789
00:48:08,194 --> 00:48:10,817
when she'd actually died.
790
00:48:10,852 --> 00:48:14,097
You can obviously see the
vertebrae here, the collarbone.
791
00:48:16,754 --> 00:48:21,759
Generally, she looks
human by all accounts,
792
00:48:23,520 --> 00:48:28,525
except for one thing here, she's
missing ear lobes, no ears,
793
00:48:29,698 --> 00:48:31,666
which is a trait often
seen in amphibians,
794
00:48:31,700 --> 00:48:35,083
like seals and sea lions.
795
00:48:36,429 --> 00:48:37,948
As to why she has no
ears is a mystery.
796
00:48:37,983 --> 00:48:42,159
She does just have a
hole in either side.
797
00:48:44,334 --> 00:48:46,025
After receiving a phone call
798
00:48:46,060 --> 00:48:48,269
in the early hours of
the morning to confirm
799
00:48:49,442 --> 00:48:51,893
a meeting, someone is
going to pick us up
800
00:48:51,928 --> 00:48:55,345
and take us to this
so-called secret location.
801
00:48:55,379 --> 00:48:58,106
And the demands that were
made, it was just ridiculous,
802
00:48:58,141 --> 00:49:01,247
absolutely ridiculous,
no cell phones,
803
00:49:01,282 --> 00:49:02,697
won't be allowed to film.
804
00:49:04,009 --> 00:49:07,046
I mean, I don't know.
805
00:49:07,081 --> 00:49:08,841
Did spark a lot of debate
between myself and Barry,
806
00:49:08,875 --> 00:49:10,739
but we thought,
"Hell," you know?
807
00:49:10,774 --> 00:49:14,536
No way we're going back halfway
back round the world again
808
00:49:14,571 --> 00:49:16,400
without gaining everything
we could possibly get
809
00:49:16,435 --> 00:49:18,782
whilst we're here 'cause
this is what we do.
810
00:49:18,816 --> 00:49:20,991
Well, nevertheless though,
we did reach the location
811
00:49:21,026 --> 00:49:22,786
and we met with a
number of gentlemen.
812
00:49:22,820 --> 00:49:25,409
I think there were five
of them in question.
813
00:49:25,444 --> 00:49:28,412
Because people are gonna ask
why, why, why all the secrecy?
814
00:49:29,793 --> 00:49:32,071
And I don't think it's
about hyping up the bodies.
815
00:49:32,106 --> 00:49:34,867
I think it's about
the government because
we already know
816
00:49:34,901 --> 00:49:37,766
that they're going all over
this thing, absolutely.
817
00:49:37,801 --> 00:49:40,183
The police apparently
have already raided
a number of places
818
00:49:40,217 --> 00:49:41,908
trying to find the damn bodies.
819
00:49:41,943 --> 00:49:44,981
And of course, it's very
secret as to where they be.
820
00:49:46,189 --> 00:49:48,225
They want them and they
probably want the people
821
00:49:48,260 --> 00:49:50,227
are involved in is because
they are probably looking about
822
00:49:50,262 --> 00:49:53,506
10-year stretch each, and
that is probably the truth.
823
00:49:53,541 --> 00:49:56,406
We conducted some
investigation, some research,
824
00:49:56,440 --> 00:50:00,168
and plenty of footage we were
allowed to take of the bodies.
825
00:50:00,203 --> 00:50:02,343
There are certain things that
we weren't allowed to show,
826
00:50:02,377 --> 00:50:05,622
weren't allowed to film,
but at the end of the day,
827
00:50:05,656 --> 00:50:07,486
we managed to work with them
828
00:50:07,520 --> 00:50:11,559
and hopefully come away
with something quite good.
829
00:50:11,593 --> 00:50:13,768
And he started to
bring these things out
830
00:50:13,802 --> 00:50:17,323
in a sequential order of
size in a sense of speaking
831
00:50:17,358 --> 00:50:19,015
from the smallest
to the largest.
832
00:50:20,016 --> 00:50:22,018
And the first body came out,
833
00:50:22,052 --> 00:50:24,227
we placed it on the
table sort of delicately
834
00:50:25,366 --> 00:50:27,885
and I was kinda holding
back a grin, really,
835
00:50:27,920 --> 00:50:31,544
because it was clearly
a fake, absolute fake.
836
00:50:31,579 --> 00:50:34,823
And it was only
about 12 inches long.
837
00:50:34,858 --> 00:50:38,275
I've seen this before, he
moved his head, excuse the pun,
838
00:50:38,310 --> 00:50:42,141
he made his head
around about 2015, 2016
839
00:50:43,660 --> 00:50:46,214
and it had a fish's head,
he's got a head of a fish.
840
00:50:47,905 --> 00:50:50,253
Clearly, with fish-type teeth.
841
00:50:51,288 --> 00:50:53,256
His body was a bit of a mixer.
842
00:50:53,290 --> 00:50:54,774
Maybe there are
some bones in there,
843
00:50:54,809 --> 00:50:56,776
it's definitely like what
you see in the X-rays,
844
00:50:58,019 --> 00:51:00,470
and he looked to be
absolutely doctored.
845
00:51:00,504 --> 00:51:01,781
It was definitely doctored.
846
00:51:03,231 --> 00:51:05,440
Then there were three other
bodies that were reeled out.
847
00:51:05,475 --> 00:51:07,960
24 inches in size this time.
848
00:51:07,994 --> 00:51:09,617
But something a bit
different with these.
849
00:51:09,651 --> 00:51:13,310
These were elongated skulls.
850
00:51:14,484 --> 00:51:16,106
There was apparently
from what we were told
851
00:51:16,141 --> 00:51:21,111
a male and a female and
one which was undecisive,
852
00:51:22,561 --> 00:51:24,873
he was missing his head and
it was in a sitting position.
853
00:51:26,323 --> 00:51:29,706
Now, how did they determine
what was a female and male?
854
00:51:29,740 --> 00:51:31,397
Well apparently,
there was one of them
855
00:51:31,432 --> 00:51:34,607
that seemed to have three
eggs inside her, yes eggs,
856
00:51:34,642 --> 00:51:37,748
which would indicate that well,
it's some type of reptilian,
857
00:51:37,783 --> 00:51:40,130
a reptile of some sort.
858
00:51:40,165 --> 00:51:41,856
For me, it's about
where is the evidence?
859
00:51:41,890 --> 00:51:44,755
And I asked and
apparently, surprisingly,
860
00:51:44,790 --> 00:51:48,552
no analysis have been
taken on these two bodies,
861
00:51:48,587 --> 00:51:51,037
the male and the
so-called female one,
862
00:51:51,072 --> 00:51:53,143
no analysis whatsoever.
863
00:51:53,178 --> 00:51:56,146
And it's also through, I
was looking over the X-rays
864
00:51:57,596 --> 00:52:01,151
and the anatomy, that Barry
brought up a really good theory
865
00:52:01,186 --> 00:52:04,430
that the actual skull
being slightly elongated
866
00:52:04,465 --> 00:52:06,639
is very, very similar
to sloth skulls
867
00:52:06,674 --> 00:52:08,779
and even some parts
of the anatomy.
868
00:52:08,814 --> 00:52:11,610
And of course, they
even have three claws.
869
00:52:11,644 --> 00:52:14,164
So that's a possibility,
that's a strong possibility
870
00:52:14,199 --> 00:52:17,063
that they made a mutant,
somebody, someone somewhere
871
00:52:17,098 --> 00:52:20,032
maybe utilized what
you can get ahold of
872
00:52:20,066 --> 00:52:22,379
and then added and
changed and mixed
873
00:52:22,414 --> 00:52:27,419
and basically created
these models which are,
874
00:52:28,592 --> 00:52:29,800
which do actually
have some bones in,
875
00:52:29,835 --> 00:52:31,043
which is interesting
because obviously
876
00:52:31,077 --> 00:52:33,701
that no one showed
up on an X-ray.
877
00:52:33,735 --> 00:52:35,220
The only analysis
that has taken place
878
00:52:35,254 --> 00:52:38,257
is done on the third body
which is missing his head.
879
00:52:38,292 --> 00:52:40,086
And interestingly, this
is an interesting point,
880
00:52:40,121 --> 00:52:44,021
it did seem to have skin on
its back, I can confirm that.
881
00:52:44,056 --> 00:52:46,023
It did seem to have
some type of skin.
882
00:52:46,058 --> 00:52:48,094
As to what that skin
is or what it could be,
883
00:52:48,129 --> 00:52:50,235
I have no idea, but it
did seem to have skin.
884
00:52:50,925 --> 00:52:52,306
It would seem to be
some protruding maybe,
885
00:52:52,340 --> 00:52:54,618
has as well maybe or
ridges or something.
886
00:52:54,653 --> 00:52:56,620
It was really unusual.
887
00:52:56,655 --> 00:52:58,829
We're currently waiting
on the DNA to come back
888
00:52:58,864 --> 00:53:01,418
to confirm if this is,
thing is real or not.
889
00:53:02,557 --> 00:53:04,697
So those three bodies, you know?
890
00:53:06,320 --> 00:53:08,425
And of course, let me
come to the real big bit,
891
00:53:08,460 --> 00:53:10,772
the real crunch, the crunch
is how they pulled out this
892
00:53:11,946 --> 00:53:16,744
big box and opened the
lid and, hey presto!
893
00:53:17,917 --> 00:53:20,057
There she was in all
her glory, Maria.
894
00:53:20,092 --> 00:53:21,887
You know, the one that we've
been seeing on the Internet.
895
00:53:21,921 --> 00:53:24,890
And I was like,
"Whoa," you know?
896
00:53:24,924 --> 00:53:26,098
Seemed we both were,
myself and Barry,
897
00:53:26,132 --> 00:53:27,582
a bit blown away, to be honest,
898
00:53:27,617 --> 00:53:30,896
because this is something, a
completely different ballpark,
899
00:53:30,930 --> 00:53:33,278
absolute completely
different ballpark.
900
00:53:33,312 --> 00:53:36,419
This a start, there's
absolutely no shadow of doubt
901
00:53:36,453 --> 00:53:38,697
that we are dealing
with a body here,
902
00:53:38,731 --> 00:53:42,010
and the analysis
being, apparently two
independent analysis,
903
00:53:42,045 --> 00:53:44,461
two currently
images taking place,
904
00:53:44,496 --> 00:53:47,775
shows around about maybe,
I think, as far as we know,
905
00:53:47,809 --> 00:53:51,019
1,800 years old, the body,
906
00:53:51,054 --> 00:53:52,814
and of course we didn't
even think straight,
907
00:53:52,849 --> 00:53:55,023
wait, it's got three
fingers and three toes,
908
00:53:55,058 --> 00:53:56,922
and we'll just ignore
that this is, you know,
909
00:53:56,956 --> 00:53:58,164
how often do you get,
910
00:53:58,199 --> 00:54:00,166
that's not an everyday
occurrence, is it?
911
00:54:01,271 --> 00:54:04,930
And the first thing
I thought was,
912
00:54:04,964 --> 00:54:06,966
"It does have an
elongated skull."
913
00:54:07,001 --> 00:54:08,485
Maria does have an
elongated skull.
914
00:54:08,520 --> 00:54:13,007
But not to the point where
there's extra brain mass.
915
00:54:14,422 --> 00:54:18,840
It could be simply that is,
is representation of boarding,
916
00:54:18,875 --> 00:54:22,188
which was a tradition
that many cultures did
917
00:54:22,223 --> 00:54:23,673
from an early age.
918
00:54:23,707 --> 00:54:26,123
And of course, we come to
the hands and the feet.
919
00:54:26,158 --> 00:54:30,196
Now, I asked the question
about the analysis
920
00:54:30,231 --> 00:54:31,957
because apparently
analysis been taking place
921
00:54:31,991 --> 00:54:34,994
and we do know the parts where
analysis taking place from,
922
00:54:35,029 --> 00:54:38,135
but for me, if I
was going in there,
923
00:54:38,170 --> 00:54:40,966
the first thing I'd do
is look at what not,
924
00:54:41,000 --> 00:54:42,657
what does it not make it human?
925
00:54:42,692 --> 00:54:45,315
What is it stands out
and makes it unusual,
926
00:54:45,350 --> 00:54:46,799
and that is, is
it's hands and feet.
927
00:54:46,834 --> 00:54:49,215
So that is the first place
I'd be taking samples from.
928
00:54:49,250 --> 00:54:50,941
It's obvious, you take samples
929
00:54:50,976 --> 00:54:53,461
from the locations in question.
930
00:54:53,496 --> 00:54:55,843
If you're going to take
samples from under the arm,
931
00:54:55,877 --> 00:54:58,639
around the back, what are
we going to come back with?
932
00:54:58,673 --> 00:55:01,262
Well, we're probably gonna
come back with a body
933
00:55:01,297 --> 00:55:04,576
of eight, you know, 1,800
years old, you know?
934
00:55:05,715 --> 00:55:07,233
And it's only gonna
give us the information
935
00:55:07,268 --> 00:55:08,959
that we currently already
know, to be honest with you.
936
00:55:08,994 --> 00:55:10,789
We need to focus on
the hands and feet.
937
00:55:10,823 --> 00:55:13,516
And I was actually surprised,
'cause I asked the question.
938
00:55:13,550 --> 00:55:16,070
"Have samples been taken
on the hands and feet?"
939
00:55:16,104 --> 00:55:17,623
And the reply was, "No."
940
00:55:18,797 --> 00:55:21,662
Why, why would you
not take samples
941
00:55:21,696 --> 00:55:24,216
from the hands and the feet,
that's the first thing I'd do,
942
00:55:24,250 --> 00:55:26,356
going in there, I want to know.
943
00:55:26,391 --> 00:55:28,289
I want to know if these
hands and these feet,
944
00:55:28,324 --> 00:55:32,397
these toes and fingers
belong to that body.
945
00:55:33,881 --> 00:55:35,227
- [Pilot] Flight manager.
[upbeat vocalizing music]
946
00:55:35,261 --> 00:55:37,402
[speaking in foreign language]
947
00:55:37,436 --> 00:55:39,990
Thank you, we hope there's
other trips with us.
948
00:55:40,025 --> 00:55:44,029
[speaking in foreign language]
949
00:55:48,516 --> 00:55:51,139
[upbeat music]
950
00:56:15,681 --> 00:56:18,166
- We're here in Lima, we've
had to take a flight down.
951
00:56:18,201 --> 00:56:20,859
And that's because we want
to, we're here to attend
952
00:56:20,893 --> 00:56:23,206
the first international
press release,
953
00:56:23,240 --> 00:56:25,795
which is going to be
taking place very shortly.
954
00:56:25,829 --> 00:56:27,969
But whilst we were here, we
wanted to take the opportunity
955
00:56:28,004 --> 00:56:29,937
to be able to talk to somebody,
956
00:56:29,971 --> 00:56:33,423
a representative of
the Ministry of Tourism
957
00:56:33,458 --> 00:56:35,218
and we've got some
very interesting facts
958
00:56:35,252 --> 00:56:38,117
when we conducted an
interview last night.
959
00:56:38,152 --> 00:56:41,983
Some of the information
is quite incredible.
960
00:56:42,018 --> 00:56:44,365
It would seem that these, the
government are struggling,
961
00:56:44,400 --> 00:56:47,437
absolutely struggling
to contain this problem
962
00:56:47,472 --> 00:56:50,923
about people who hub
tomb raiders, pillagers,
963
00:56:50,958 --> 00:56:52,269
you know, whatever
they're doing to try
964
00:56:52,304 --> 00:56:53,823
and to get their hold
of these artifacts
965
00:56:53,857 --> 00:56:58,103
that seem to be sold and are
being sold across the world
966
00:56:58,137 --> 00:57:00,416
by some form of black market.
967
00:57:00,450 --> 00:57:03,246
Lenny, I believe you work
for the Ministry of Tourism
968
00:57:03,280 --> 00:57:07,112
here in Peru and you were
actually commissioned
969
00:57:07,146 --> 00:57:10,978
to look into the shady
world of the black market.
970
00:57:11,012 --> 00:57:13,532
Can I ask you, how damaging
is the black market
971
00:57:13,567 --> 00:57:16,466
for the archaeological
artifacts of Peru?
972
00:57:17,985 --> 00:57:22,610
- Well, Peru's a country so
well-known because of our
973
00:57:23,956 --> 00:57:27,788
heritage, cultural
and natural heritage,
974
00:57:27,822 --> 00:57:32,620
and so for us, it's quite
important to conserve all of it.
975
00:57:33,966 --> 00:57:37,970
And one of our biggest
problems is this black market.
976
00:57:38,005 --> 00:57:40,973
- The black market is one
of the biggest problems.
977
00:57:41,008 --> 00:57:43,148
Is there any way
to, is there any way
978
00:57:43,182 --> 00:57:46,116
to resolve that problem or
is it still happening today?
979
00:57:46,151 --> 00:57:48,843
- This is really a very
complex problem, situation,
980
00:57:48,878 --> 00:57:52,053
not only here, also
in other countries
981
00:57:53,123 --> 00:57:55,712
with a rich heritage like ours.
982
00:57:57,473 --> 00:57:59,336
I think on a personal level
983
00:57:59,371 --> 00:58:04,307
that includes not only the
laws, but also to know the laws.
984
00:58:05,688 --> 00:58:08,656
- So we're dealing something
which is international.
985
00:58:08,691 --> 00:58:13,350
- This is a very big chain
at international level
986
00:58:13,385 --> 00:58:15,870
because there is still demand.
987
00:58:17,562 --> 00:58:20,185
I consider that all the time
988
00:58:20,219 --> 00:58:22,636
that this demand will continues.
989
00:58:22,670 --> 00:58:26,053
Paying so much, huge
amounts of money,
990
00:58:26,087 --> 00:58:27,882
it will exist, this offer,
991
00:58:27,917 --> 00:58:31,783
this supply of this richness.
- Right.
992
00:58:31,817 --> 00:58:34,199
And it's still happening today.
993
00:58:34,233 --> 00:58:37,513
- Yes, unfortunately
yes, unfortunately
994
00:58:38,652 --> 00:58:41,275
because of the,
from time to time,
995
00:58:42,483 --> 00:58:46,349
we discover these pieces
all around the world
996
00:58:46,383 --> 00:58:49,317
and our government is still
working for recovering them.
997
00:58:50,249 --> 00:58:52,769
- Right.
- After a great effort.
998
00:58:52,804 --> 00:58:54,875
- Yeah.
- That is not easy.
999
00:58:54,909 --> 00:58:58,326
But unfortunately, they
go all across our borders
1000
00:58:58,361 --> 00:58:59,673
boundaries now.
- Right.
1001
00:58:59,707 --> 00:59:02,158
So it's extremely difficult.
- Yes, to control.
1002
00:59:02,192 --> 00:59:03,642
- To control.
1003
00:59:03,677 --> 00:59:06,749
Now, what's interesting
is also whilst we're here,
1004
00:59:06,783 --> 00:59:09,475
we've talking to a number
of people out on the street
1005
00:59:09,510 --> 00:59:11,685
and they're all talking
about the same thing.
1006
00:59:11,719 --> 00:59:14,239
They haven't heard anything
about this press conference
1007
00:59:14,273 --> 00:59:16,724
which is taking place
right under their noses,
1008
00:59:16,759 --> 00:59:18,174
nobody seems to know anything.
1009
00:59:18,208 --> 00:59:21,453
That's how good the government
have been at suppressing
1010
00:59:21,487 --> 00:59:22,937
the amount of information
getting out there
1011
00:59:22,972 --> 00:59:24,490
about today's event.
1012
00:59:24,525 --> 00:59:27,701
Also, what we did find is
that about a month ago,
1013
00:59:27,735 --> 00:59:30,324
there was a lot of information
being put out and circulated,
1014
00:59:30,358 --> 00:59:33,948
discrediting, discrediting
the finds, the discoveries.
1015
00:59:33,983 --> 00:59:36,433
And that's fine, we know,
we could understand that
1016
00:59:36,468 --> 00:59:38,815
and we understand the reasons
why it might be taking place
1017
00:59:38,850 --> 00:59:40,748
because they do want
to suppress this,
1018
00:59:40,783 --> 00:59:44,269
that these things are, how
many artifacts been found,
1019
00:59:44,303 --> 00:59:47,652
stolen, shipped abroad
to other countries,
1020
00:59:47,686 --> 00:59:51,138
and of course, they're
losing the history,
1021
00:59:51,172 --> 00:59:53,589
they're losing their Peruvian
history, these artifacts
1022
00:59:53,623 --> 00:59:55,936
are going all over the place
and do want to suppress that
1023
00:59:55,970 --> 00:59:57,523
and the only way
to really do that
1024
00:59:57,558 --> 01:00:00,457
is to just basically
call it's fake.
1025
01:00:00,492 --> 01:00:03,668
However, what's interesting
is that's generally,
1026
01:00:03,702 --> 01:00:06,463
that was a month ago,
it's all gone quiet now.
1027
01:00:06,498 --> 01:00:08,189
This is all happening
under the people's noses.
1028
01:00:08,224 --> 01:00:09,639
They don't even know.
1029
01:00:09,674 --> 01:00:11,537
We've even talked to a
number of staff at the hotel
1030
01:00:11,572 --> 01:00:13,056
and even those were like, "What?
1031
01:00:13,091 --> 01:00:14,782
"What press announcement?"
1032
01:00:14,817 --> 01:00:17,026
It's just incredible,
we don't see,
1033
01:00:17,060 --> 01:00:19,960
people are here already are
starting to just turn up
1034
01:00:19,994 --> 01:00:23,860
and you know, in the TRO,
so it's a real big event.
1035
01:00:23,895 --> 01:00:25,103
We've got to try and get to
1036
01:00:25,137 --> 01:00:26,449
the crunch of all
this information
1037
01:00:26,483 --> 01:00:28,451
because we're really
having to move fast
1038
01:00:28,485 --> 01:00:30,626
'cause things are developing
so, so fast at this moment.
1039
01:00:30,660 --> 01:00:33,145
We're just trying
to keep on our toes.
1040
01:00:34,491 --> 01:00:36,770
We sensed at lunchtime today
1041
01:00:36,804 --> 01:00:39,393
that something
wasn't quite right.
1042
01:00:39,427 --> 01:00:43,500
And by the time we got back
from lunch, it had arrived.
1043
01:00:43,535 --> 01:00:45,641
It was absolute chaos.
1044
01:00:45,675 --> 01:00:48,264
Peruvian government event
is a press announcement.
1045
01:00:48,298 --> 01:00:51,577
So we had to really talk to the
head guy who'd arranged this
1046
01:00:51,612 --> 01:00:54,580
which is kind of on our
side, he said, "No problem.
1047
01:00:54,615 --> 01:00:56,582
"I'll send three emails
over to the hotel
1048
01:00:56,617 --> 01:00:58,136
"informing them that your guy,
1049
01:00:58,170 --> 01:01:01,035
"you're the guys that are gonna
be filming on our behalf."
1050
01:01:01,070 --> 01:01:04,660
Jaime Maussan has been the
face of this press conference,
1051
01:01:04,694 --> 01:01:07,593
but he also has been
having his own problems.
1052
01:01:07,628 --> 01:01:09,147
And this is what he had to say.
1053
01:01:11,252 --> 01:01:13,116
Thank you for talking
with us, Jaime.
1054
01:01:13,151 --> 01:01:17,327
I wanted to ask you, you've
been at the front of this,
1055
01:01:17,362 --> 01:01:19,778
the forefront, the front runner.
1056
01:01:19,813 --> 01:01:23,609
You're the face of
this discovery, how's
it been for you?
1057
01:01:23,644 --> 01:01:26,474
- I think the person
who deserves this credit
1058
01:01:26,509 --> 01:01:30,513
is Thierry Jamin, the
French who got the bodies,
1059
01:01:30,547 --> 01:01:33,723
who collected everything,
who has had the courage
1060
01:01:33,758 --> 01:01:36,899
to confront anything
to take the risk.
1061
01:01:36,933 --> 01:01:40,212
As investigator, probably
I helped to really
1062
01:01:41,558 --> 01:01:46,563
make this news, these
findings go through
1063
01:01:47,323 --> 01:01:49,532
to be known by the world
1064
01:01:49,566 --> 01:01:53,398
and to understand that this is
something real extraordinary
1065
01:01:53,432 --> 01:01:55,952
and for me has been
probably one of the most
1066
01:01:55,987 --> 01:01:58,886
important investigations
of my life.
1067
01:01:58,921 --> 01:02:00,577
- [Steve] We understand samples
1068
01:02:00,612 --> 01:02:04,029
that you've taken with the
team amongst other people,
1069
01:02:04,064 --> 01:02:05,755
but what is your
personal opinion?
1070
01:02:05,790 --> 01:02:08,102
What do you think this mummy is?
1071
01:02:08,137 --> 01:02:10,691
- I think this mummy
is something else.
1072
01:02:10,726 --> 01:02:14,764
I don't know if it came from
a different planet or not,
1073
01:02:14,799 --> 01:02:19,804
but it doesn't look human,
all the features you can see
1074
01:02:21,426 --> 01:02:25,844
are really something
extraordinary, like
the big fingers
1075
01:02:27,639 --> 01:02:31,781
in the hands with
the five phalanges,
1076
01:02:31,816 --> 01:02:36,234
the fingers in the foot
with four phalanges
1077
01:02:36,268 --> 01:02:39,685
are something that
are not comparable
1078
01:02:39,720 --> 01:02:41,446
to those of human beings.
1079
01:02:41,480 --> 01:02:46,071
Also the head, if you see
the head, is very big.
1080
01:02:46,106 --> 01:02:50,731
If you see the bones in the
arm, they are really separated,
1081
01:02:50,766 --> 01:02:54,770
something very different
that, from our own.
1082
01:02:54,804 --> 01:02:58,774
And there are measures,
so many more differences
1083
01:02:58,808 --> 01:03:01,742
from human beings,
then this is not human.
1084
01:03:01,777 --> 01:03:05,815
What is it, I don't know; where
it came from, I don't know.
1085
01:03:05,850 --> 01:03:07,403
We'll find out.
1086
01:03:08,853 --> 01:03:11,441
- [Steve] There's been a lot
of international interest
1087
01:03:11,476 --> 01:03:14,824
in regards this find, but
surprisingly and remarkably,
1088
01:03:14,859 --> 01:03:17,620
it's been very
quiet here in Peru.
1089
01:03:17,654 --> 01:03:20,243
We believe the government
have been trying to pressure
1090
01:03:20,278 --> 01:03:22,245
maybe keeping this quiet.
1091
01:03:24,006 --> 01:03:26,732
You went to the Ministry
of Culture today.
1092
01:03:26,767 --> 01:03:28,769
Could you say anything
about how that meeting went?
1093
01:03:28,804 --> 01:03:32,531
- No no, I send a letter
and I ask for this meeting
1094
01:03:32,566 --> 01:03:34,982
because we wanted
to present them
1095
01:03:35,017 --> 01:03:38,434
before the press conference
all the information
1096
01:03:38,468 --> 01:03:42,024
we had collected,
all the evidences,
1097
01:03:42,058 --> 01:03:45,096
all the scientists' analysis,
1098
01:03:46,200 --> 01:03:47,408
and we couldn't do it.
1099
01:03:47,443 --> 01:03:49,859
They said that we
should send an email
1100
01:03:49,894 --> 01:03:52,862
and after a while they
will answer to us,
1101
01:03:52,897 --> 01:03:55,900
and I said, "It's important
you do it very fast
1102
01:03:55,934 --> 01:03:58,730
"because the bodies
are in danger.
1103
01:03:58,764 --> 01:04:02,458
"The bodies are really
being hurt by being outside.
1104
01:04:02,492 --> 01:04:04,115
"They need to be preserved."
1105
01:04:05,323 --> 01:04:08,153
They say, "Yeah, sure we
will," but that was all.
1106
01:04:08,188 --> 01:04:10,604
I know that the attitude
of the government,
1107
01:04:10,638 --> 01:04:14,608
the Ministry of Culture is
just to reject this finding.
1108
01:04:14,642 --> 01:04:16,886
This is really disturbing,
1109
01:04:16,921 --> 01:04:20,821
because the real victim
here is the truth.
1110
01:04:20,856 --> 01:04:24,721
And I think that the truth
should go to the world,
1111
01:04:24,756 --> 01:04:27,000
the people in, around the world
1112
01:04:27,034 --> 01:04:29,278
deserves the truth about this.
1113
01:04:29,312 --> 01:04:31,487
- [Steve] Absolutely,
I mean, we believe,
1114
01:04:31,521 --> 01:04:32,902
we've been led to believe that
1115
01:04:32,937 --> 01:04:34,593
what's going to be
discussed tomorrow
1116
01:04:34,628 --> 01:04:38,287
at the first international
press announcement,
1117
01:04:38,321 --> 01:04:42,912
that the information
could potentially just,
1118
01:04:42,947 --> 01:04:44,327
not just change the planet,
1119
01:04:44,362 --> 01:04:46,847
but literally the
whole universe.
1120
01:04:46,882 --> 01:04:49,746
I mean, at the end of the day,
1121
01:04:49,781 --> 01:04:51,817
the information has
got to come out.
1122
01:04:51,852 --> 01:04:55,028
- Yeah, that's the plan, to
present this to the world
1123
01:04:55,062 --> 01:04:59,032
and the world will decide how
good is this investigation,
1124
01:04:59,066 --> 01:05:03,553
how good the evidences are and
they're trying to stop this
1125
01:05:03,588 --> 01:05:06,971
because they are fearful
that this could be truth.
1126
01:05:07,005 --> 01:05:08,524
They will have to rewritten
1127
01:05:10,043 --> 01:05:14,668
the books of history,
everything we know should change
1128
01:05:14,702 --> 01:05:16,773
or could change, I don't know.
1129
01:05:16,808 --> 01:05:20,501
And it seems that it's too
much for many, many people
1130
01:05:20,536 --> 01:05:23,366
and that is why, even
without the evidence,
1131
01:05:23,401 --> 01:05:25,161
even without the bodies,
1132
01:05:25,196 --> 01:05:29,372
even without looking
closely to this discovery,
1133
01:05:29,407 --> 01:05:31,788
they are saying that
this is not true,
1134
01:05:31,823 --> 01:05:33,790
couldn't be true, that is all.
1135
01:05:33,825 --> 01:05:35,171
- [Steve] If it is
successful tomorrow,
1136
01:05:35,206 --> 01:05:37,794
and we do manage to get
this information out
1137
01:05:38,726 --> 01:05:40,452
as best as we possibly can,
1138
01:05:40,487 --> 01:05:42,938
do you think this is going
to help the Inkari Institute
1139
01:05:42,972 --> 01:05:44,940
to carry on their research?
1140
01:05:44,974 --> 01:05:47,252
- Oh yeah, the
attention of the world,
1141
01:05:47,287 --> 01:05:49,530
if we can convince
that we are honest,
1142
01:05:49,565 --> 01:05:51,015
if we can convince them that
1143
01:05:51,049 --> 01:05:53,051
there is no other
interest than the truth,
1144
01:05:53,086 --> 01:05:57,090
if we can convince the world
that the evidences are real,
1145
01:05:57,124 --> 01:06:00,541
then everything should change
and the Inkari Institute
1146
01:06:00,576 --> 01:06:04,752
should attract all the
attention from the world
1147
01:06:04,787 --> 01:06:06,927
and that is why I think
1148
01:06:08,308 --> 01:06:11,449
tomorrow we will decide
or they will decide
1149
01:06:11,483 --> 01:06:14,970
or everybody will decide what
is the future of humanity
1150
01:06:15,004 --> 01:06:18,904
because it is not
just this discovery.
1151
01:06:18,939 --> 01:06:23,944
If we cannot prove that these
bodies are something else,
1152
01:06:25,049 --> 01:06:28,949
then we won't be able
to prove it ever.
1153
01:06:28,984 --> 01:06:32,711
This physical evidence
for the first time
1154
01:06:32,746 --> 01:06:35,369
is in the hands of society
1155
01:06:35,404 --> 01:06:37,820
and they want to
take it away from us.
1156
01:06:37,854 --> 01:06:39,649
Don't you realize that?
1157
01:06:39,684 --> 01:06:43,653
Don't you realize what
is in play here tomorrow?
1158
01:06:43,688 --> 01:06:48,279
I hope people will understand
and will support this
1159
01:06:49,452 --> 01:06:52,835
because the evidences
speak by themselves.
1160
01:06:52,869 --> 01:06:54,906
You will hear the scientists.
1161
01:06:54,940 --> 01:06:59,014
You will hear everybody
that is around here,
1162
01:06:59,048 --> 01:07:02,707
this investigation, you
will see the documents
1163
01:07:04,122 --> 01:07:08,230
of the investigation with
carbon-14, with the DNA.
1164
01:07:08,264 --> 01:07:12,027
You will find out
how close we are
1165
01:07:12,061 --> 01:07:16,686
to really understand
that things are not
1166
01:07:16,721 --> 01:07:20,000
like we have thought
they were in the past.
1167
01:07:20,035 --> 01:07:21,657
This is a different world
1168
01:07:21,691 --> 01:07:24,211
and the reality's
very, very different
1169
01:07:24,246 --> 01:07:25,902
than what we thought.
1170
01:07:25,937 --> 01:07:29,009
- [Steve] I think the timing
tonight to be very coincidental
1171
01:07:29,044 --> 01:07:31,356
for the government and
a lot of scientists
1172
01:07:31,391 --> 01:07:34,118
to come out tonight just
prior to the event tomorrow
1173
01:07:34,152 --> 01:07:37,776
to try and put their story
forward and say it's all fake.
1174
01:07:37,811 --> 01:07:41,297
But how can they do that if
they've not seen or examined?
1175
01:07:41,332 --> 01:07:42,402
How can they do that?
1176
01:07:42,436 --> 01:07:45,336
- Because the scientists in Peru
1177
01:07:45,370 --> 01:07:48,511
and probably around the
world are very fearful.
1178
01:07:48,546 --> 01:07:52,998
They organized an event
today, just to declare
1179
01:07:53,033 --> 01:07:57,106
that our findings are a
hoax, they are a fraud.
1180
01:07:57,141 --> 01:08:00,005
They haven't seen them,
they don't have the body,
1181
01:08:00,040 --> 01:08:03,285
they don't have the X-rays,
they don't have the cat skulls,
1182
01:08:03,319 --> 01:08:06,046
they don't have anything,
and besides that,
1183
01:08:06,081 --> 01:08:08,773
they have not
presented anything.
1184
01:08:09,705 --> 01:08:11,983
There is not one
single evidence,
1185
01:08:12,017 --> 01:08:16,746
one single proof that
backs their words.
1186
01:08:16,781 --> 01:08:19,853
This is amazing, I cannot
believe what is happening here.
1187
01:08:19,887 --> 01:08:21,786
I cannot believe it people even
1188
01:08:22,718 --> 01:08:25,134
think or listen to these people.
1189
01:08:25,169 --> 01:08:28,448
For example, a taxidermist
the other, they saying that,
1190
01:08:28,482 --> 01:08:30,726
"Oh, there is a mafia in Peru
1191
01:08:30,760 --> 01:08:33,936
"that they are creating
this kind of hoaxes."
1192
01:08:33,970 --> 01:08:36,870
And because you came
with Gaia and so on,
1193
01:08:36,904 --> 01:08:40,908
then they made
this mummy for you.
1194
01:08:40,943 --> 01:08:45,948
Are we so stupid,
are we so gullible
1195
01:08:47,294 --> 01:08:49,917
that we will accept
anything they give to us?
1196
01:08:49,952 --> 01:08:54,577
Absolutely not, before we say
anything, we investigate it
1197
01:08:54,612 --> 01:08:56,648
and we were convinced
that this is real,
1198
01:08:56,683 --> 01:08:59,272
otherwise we wouldn't
have presented.
1199
01:08:59,306 --> 01:09:03,276
- What the government are doing
is that they're discrediting
1200
01:09:03,310 --> 01:09:05,795
any of these discoveries
that have been found.
1201
01:09:05,830 --> 01:09:08,591
And they're doing
this without ever
1202
01:09:08,626 --> 01:09:11,974
laying a single finger
on any of the bodies.
1203
01:09:14,701 --> 01:09:16,841
- [Barry] Meanwhile,
members of the scientific
1204
01:09:16,875 --> 01:09:19,671
community within
Peru banded together
1205
01:09:19,706 --> 01:09:21,363
and this is what
they had to say.
1206
01:09:24,400 --> 01:09:26,816
"In the last few months,
the alleged discovery
1207
01:09:26,851 --> 01:09:29,681
"of extraterrestrial
mummies in our country
1208
01:09:29,716 --> 01:09:32,097
"has been publicized
through an irresponsible
1209
01:09:32,132 --> 01:09:34,928
"organized
disinformation campaign.
1210
01:09:34,962 --> 01:09:37,793
"Testimonies and published
images of this case
1211
01:09:37,827 --> 01:09:41,176
"allow to assert that
these findings correspond
1212
01:09:41,210 --> 01:09:44,834
"undoubtedly to
pre-Columbian human remains,
1213
01:09:44,869 --> 01:09:46,974
"cultural patrimony
of the nation,
1214
01:09:48,079 --> 01:09:51,013
"maliciously manipulated
and even mutilated
1215
01:09:51,047 --> 01:09:56,052
"to obtain an ad-hoc appearance
for commercial exploitation.
1216
01:09:57,226 --> 01:09:59,228
"Moreover, the exclusion
of the entire related
1217
01:09:59,263 --> 01:10:02,542
"archaeological
context is absolutely
1218
01:10:02,576 --> 01:10:05,234
"contrary to the
scientific investigation
1219
01:10:05,269 --> 01:10:07,719
"of this kind of cultural finds.
1220
01:10:07,754 --> 01:10:09,031
"It is upon our authorities
1221
01:10:09,065 --> 01:10:11,482
"to make the
corresponding accusations,
1222
01:10:11,516 --> 01:10:13,311
"since this production
has numerous
1223
01:10:13,346 --> 01:10:15,348
"national and
international norms
1224
01:10:15,382 --> 01:10:19,006
"that watch for the defense
of cultural heritage.
1225
01:10:19,041 --> 01:10:21,630
"We hope these same authorities
will seek the protection
1226
01:10:21,664 --> 01:10:24,391
"and correct investigation
of these remains
1227
01:10:24,426 --> 01:10:28,257
"and their place of origin
in order to stop looting
1228
01:10:28,292 --> 01:10:31,156
"and trafficking
of human remains.
1229
01:10:31,191 --> 01:10:34,470
"We also expect
exemplary sanctions
1230
01:10:34,505 --> 01:10:38,923
"for those responsible of
this depredation of heritage
1231
01:10:38,957 --> 01:10:42,029
"that is of all Peruvians
1232
01:10:42,064 --> 01:10:44,929
"and humanity as a whole.
1233
01:10:44,963 --> 01:10:48,933
"Finally, the criminal abuse
of corpses for petty ends
1234
01:10:48,967 --> 01:10:52,247
"violates human dignity
in a profound way,
1235
01:10:52,281 --> 01:10:55,353
"thus exploitation of
pre-Columbian mummies
1236
01:10:55,388 --> 01:10:57,252
"carried out by
this organization
1237
01:10:57,286 --> 01:11:00,876
"attacks and particularly
offends the Andean culture,
1238
01:11:00,910 --> 01:11:02,981
"implying that its
achievements were due
1239
01:11:03,016 --> 01:11:04,949
"to an illegal alien aid.
1240
01:11:04,983 --> 01:11:07,262
"We offer our best
offices to collaborate
1241
01:11:07,296 --> 01:11:10,299
"with the authorities to
demonstrate our statements
1242
01:11:10,334 --> 01:11:13,095
"in the corresponding instances.
1243
01:11:13,129 --> 01:11:15,649
"We also offer to
participate in activities
1244
01:11:15,684 --> 01:11:17,686
"that would defend our patrimony
1245
01:11:17,720 --> 01:11:19,343
"and help educate the public
1246
01:11:19,377 --> 01:11:22,242
"about our ancestors
and their legacy.
1247
01:11:23,208 --> 01:11:26,488
"Lima, 10th of July 2017.
1248
01:11:28,731 --> 01:11:31,355
- After working through
some of the problems today,
1249
01:11:31,389 --> 01:11:34,254
we managed to catch up
with Dr. Edson Vivanco,
1250
01:11:34,289 --> 01:11:37,395
a skeletal specialist, and he
was more than happy to answer
1251
01:11:37,430 --> 01:11:39,294
a few of our questions.
1252
01:17:29,057 --> 01:17:32,474
- Dr. Jose Benitez, a
forensics specialist,
1253
01:17:32,508 --> 01:17:34,683
had his own descriptive
interpretation.
1254
01:17:34,718 --> 01:17:36,271
In your professional opinion,
1255
01:17:36,305 --> 01:17:39,688
have you found any
unusualities, anything strange?
1256
01:20:00,001 --> 01:20:02,210
- [Steve] Wonderful,
just one last question.
1257
01:20:02,244 --> 01:20:04,522
How important is it
for this information
1258
01:20:04,557 --> 01:20:07,594
to get out with the
announcement tomorrow?
1259
01:20:45,978 --> 01:20:47,255
- We're here at the
press conference,
1260
01:20:47,289 --> 01:20:48,773
the international
press conference,
1261
01:20:48,808 --> 01:20:51,673
the very first one has
taken place in Lima, Peru.
1262
01:20:51,707 --> 01:20:54,883
[attendees chattering]
1263
01:21:05,618 --> 01:21:08,863
[attendees applauding]
1264
01:21:25,707 --> 01:21:28,917
[attendees applauding]
1265
01:29:49,659 --> 01:29:51,799
- And what we've had
to actually digest
1266
01:29:51,833 --> 01:29:53,766
in this presentation
that's just taken place,
1267
01:29:53,801 --> 01:29:55,803
I mean, it's quite a long
one and a lot of questions
1268
01:29:55,837 --> 01:29:58,978
and a lot of material, literally
an overload of material,
1269
01:29:59,013 --> 01:30:02,016
and there was some very
interesting things regarding
1270
01:30:03,811 --> 01:30:08,022
the anatomical report, now
this particular report,
1271
01:30:08,056 --> 01:30:12,336
it features, we first, when
we thought looking at Maria,
1272
01:30:12,371 --> 01:30:15,719
that she only had
one, two anomalies.
1273
01:30:15,754 --> 01:30:17,997
Okay, her hands, her feet,
1274
01:30:18,032 --> 01:30:20,483
maybe a slightly elongated head,
1275
01:30:21,656 --> 01:30:23,175
no ears, and that
was pretty much it.
1276
01:30:23,209 --> 01:30:25,142
But no, no, ha ha
ha, far from it.
1277
01:30:25,177 --> 01:30:28,629
Apparently this
anatomical report features
1278
01:30:28,663 --> 01:30:31,045
that one, two, three, four,
five, it just keeps going,
1279
01:30:31,079 --> 01:30:32,495
six, seven, eight, nine, 10
1280
01:30:32,529 --> 01:30:36,015
and the list goes on of
these anomalies in the body,
1281
01:30:36,050 --> 01:30:38,708
things that you wouldn't
find in a human body.
1282
01:30:38,742 --> 01:30:43,126
The shaping of the bones,
minor little details,
1283
01:30:44,507 --> 01:30:48,407
far too many that I can
explain, I can't explain that.
1284
01:30:48,442 --> 01:30:52,376
And she's an absolute wondrous
work of art, you know?
1285
01:30:52,411 --> 01:30:56,380
Which she should be on
display somewhere, you know?
1286
01:30:56,415 --> 01:30:59,556
Or, she's real, one of the two.
1287
01:30:59,591 --> 01:31:01,938
I wouldn't want to, I
want to want to call it.
1288
01:31:01,972 --> 01:31:04,768
And of course, not just that.
1289
01:31:04,803 --> 01:31:07,840
Now there's a big
thing in regarding the,
1290
01:31:07,875 --> 01:31:10,325
this powder, this white powder.
1291
01:31:10,360 --> 01:31:13,156
It's been mentioned many
times over the Internet
1292
01:31:13,190 --> 01:31:16,780
since its release
over social media
1293
01:31:16,815 --> 01:31:18,989
that people think it's plaster.
1294
01:31:19,024 --> 01:31:22,510
It's plaster, it's
fake, it's plaster.
1295
01:31:22,545 --> 01:31:23,925
Well, we've got news, guys.
1296
01:31:25,099 --> 01:31:26,963
The news is out,
it's not plaster.
1297
01:31:28,136 --> 01:31:30,863
In fact, we actually
know what its name is
1298
01:31:30,898 --> 01:31:34,729
and it is, and it's also
purposely apparently
1299
01:31:34,764 --> 01:31:36,524
put on the body
as a preservative.
1300
01:31:38,422 --> 01:31:41,460
It kills bacteria,
keeps things in a dry,
1301
01:31:41,495 --> 01:31:43,600
in a dry conditions,
keep things perfect
1302
01:31:43,635 --> 01:31:46,154
for a very, very long time.
1303
01:31:46,189 --> 01:31:48,847
Exactly what we're
actually seeing in Maria.
1304
01:31:48,881 --> 01:31:52,609
And apart from that, there's
also more information
1305
01:31:52,644 --> 01:31:56,613
regarding the, from a biologist
that was there as well.
1306
01:31:58,097 --> 01:32:00,479
Their report came forward and
that was really interesting.
1307
01:32:00,514 --> 01:32:03,413
Of course, the downside
of it is today,
1308
01:32:03,447 --> 01:32:07,141
is that they've kind of
come out half-guns.
1309
01:32:07,175 --> 01:32:10,558
What they've done is, they've
gone under a press conference,
1310
01:32:10,593 --> 01:32:13,147
the first international
press conference of all
1311
01:32:14,010 --> 01:32:16,599
in the capital of Peru
1312
01:32:16,633 --> 01:32:19,325
and they've not brought
all the guns with them.
1313
01:32:19,360 --> 01:32:21,431
In fact, they left
the cannons at home.
1314
01:32:21,465 --> 01:32:25,780
There is not any information
from the DNA yet.
1315
01:32:25,815 --> 01:32:27,575
It's still out there, it's
still being conducted.
1316
01:32:27,610 --> 01:32:30,647
I know it takes time,
I know it takes money,
1317
01:32:30,682 --> 01:32:32,649
but surely you
probably hold back,
1318
01:32:32,684 --> 01:32:35,894
don't not send you infantry
in without your cannons,
1319
01:32:35,928 --> 01:32:38,068
you know, your cannons
need to be drawn.
1320
01:32:38,103 --> 01:32:39,483
And of course, they
haven't done that.
1321
01:32:39,518 --> 01:32:41,693
So, do you know what?
1322
01:32:41,727 --> 01:32:45,317
Very good, excellent in
regarding the information,
1323
01:32:45,351 --> 01:32:50,356
regarding the bone structure
anomalies in Marie, Maria
1324
01:32:51,634 --> 01:32:55,879
and also the other
anomalies found, but no DNA
1325
01:32:55,914 --> 01:32:58,848
and that basically means
that it took a dive-bomb.
1326
01:32:58,882 --> 01:33:01,436
As far as we're
concerned, it went flat.
1327
01:33:01,471 --> 01:33:03,438
What they needed is DNA
1328
01:33:03,473 --> 01:33:05,164
and if they hadn't,
didn't have the DNA,
1329
01:33:05,199 --> 01:33:07,511
they maybe should have held
off on the press conference
1330
01:33:07,546 --> 01:33:08,443
until they had it.
1331
01:33:10,411 --> 01:33:11,585
- [Barry] We've
recorded our findings
1332
01:33:11,619 --> 01:33:14,622
and boarded a flight
back to the UK,
1333
01:33:14,657 --> 01:33:17,073
leaving behind a
black-market of bribes,
1334
01:33:17,107 --> 01:33:19,282
grave robbing, and deceit.
1335
01:33:20,697 --> 01:33:22,285
Although we can sympathize
with the Peruvian government
1336
01:33:22,319 --> 01:33:24,563
and its attempts to
suppress the hemorrhage
1337
01:33:24,598 --> 01:33:28,118
of ancient artifacts, we
strongly disagree with the way
1338
01:33:28,153 --> 01:33:30,534
it tried to discredit
the mummified remains
1339
01:33:30,569 --> 01:33:34,021
before any tests
had been confirmed.
1340
01:33:34,918 --> 01:33:36,299
So it comes to this.
1341
01:33:37,749 --> 01:33:41,166
Strong scientific analysis
and results are necessary
1342
01:33:41,200 --> 01:33:44,790
to prove or disprove the
claims posed by both camps.
1343
01:33:44,825 --> 01:33:47,724
The results need to
be viewed by the world
1344
01:33:47,759 --> 01:33:49,795
and not a back alley boardroom
1345
01:33:49,830 --> 01:33:52,798
where possible life-changing
discoveries such as these
1346
01:33:52,833 --> 01:33:54,731
can easily be buried again.
1347
01:33:56,595 --> 01:33:59,702
We have the results.
1348
01:33:59,736 --> 01:34:02,049
We are going to tell the world.
1349
01:34:03,222 --> 01:34:07,675
And we are going to
expose the truth.
1350
01:34:07,710 --> 01:34:10,505
[dramatic music]
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