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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:02,449 --> 00:00:04,865 - [Barry] In just over a two-week period, 2 00:00:04,900 --> 00:00:07,972 both Steve Mera and myself, Barry Fitzgerald, 3 00:00:08,007 --> 00:00:09,801 travel enough miles to take us 4 00:00:09,836 --> 00:00:13,840 completely around this planet and then some, 5 00:00:13,874 --> 00:00:16,601 in an attempt to find answers, 6 00:00:16,636 --> 00:00:21,503 scientific answers to finally solve that age-old question 7 00:00:21,537 --> 00:00:24,471 if we are truly alone in this universe. 8 00:00:25,645 --> 00:00:30,132 The results are in, and this is our story. 9 00:00:43,352 --> 00:00:47,149 [singing in foreign language] 10 00:01:47,727 --> 00:01:52,697 - In June 2017, the Internet exploded with images and video 11 00:01:53,112 --> 00:01:56,149 of a mysterious mummy discovered in South America. 12 00:01:56,184 --> 00:01:59,808 It has become known as the three-fingered hybrid. 13 00:01:59,842 --> 00:02:02,638 But what do we really know about this discovery? 14 00:02:07,195 --> 00:02:10,094 My name's Steve Mera and I'm an investigative researcher 15 00:02:10,129 --> 00:02:12,441 based here in the UK. 16 00:02:12,476 --> 00:02:15,203 Join me and my cameraman and fellow researcher, 17 00:02:15,237 --> 00:02:19,552 Barry Fitzgerald as we travel to the Southern Hemisphere 18 00:02:19,586 --> 00:02:22,693 and uncover the mysteries surrounding this discovery, 19 00:02:22,727 --> 00:02:24,971 securing much more information 20 00:02:25,005 --> 00:02:28,388 and interviewing the people that bore this explosive find. 21 00:02:30,425 --> 00:02:33,186 [mysterious music] 22 00:02:33,221 --> 00:02:35,292 Against all odds, we must navigate our way 23 00:02:35,326 --> 00:02:37,742 to a secret location to view the body 24 00:02:37,777 --> 00:02:40,366 amidst government attempts to seize the evidence 25 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:41,746 and capture those involved. 26 00:02:43,162 --> 00:02:46,648 This is our journey and we'll be keeping you up-to-date 27 00:02:46,682 --> 00:02:48,546 every step of the way. 28 00:02:51,549 --> 00:02:54,414 [engine revving] 29 00:02:54,449 --> 00:02:57,417 [adventurous music] 30 00:03:12,812 --> 00:03:14,883 We obviously got some delays today. 31 00:03:14,917 --> 00:03:17,368 Hopefully, we'll be back on track very shortly. 32 00:03:17,403 --> 00:03:19,232 As it stands at this moment in time, 33 00:03:19,267 --> 00:03:20,992 we're just gonna have to join the queue, 34 00:03:21,027 --> 00:03:22,960 just try to get all this stuff through 35 00:03:22,994 --> 00:03:24,962 as best we possibly can. 36 00:03:24,996 --> 00:03:27,999 [adventurous music] 37 00:03:35,006 --> 00:03:37,906 After a delay at Manchester International, 38 00:03:37,940 --> 00:03:42,531 believe there was some type of scare, evacuations. 39 00:03:42,566 --> 00:03:45,293 It was absolutely a hands-on, absolutely hands-on. 40 00:03:45,327 --> 00:03:48,641 So we had to fight and scratch our way through the crowds. 41 00:03:48,675 --> 00:03:50,436 Battling with the equipment. 42 00:03:50,470 --> 00:03:53,093 Battling with the heat 'cause it was so humid. 43 00:03:53,128 --> 00:03:56,476 We're now just cruising over Madrid 44 00:03:56,511 --> 00:03:57,960 due to land finish [mumbles]. 45 00:03:59,410 --> 00:04:02,931 As you can see, it's beautiful out there, it's 35 degrees. 46 00:04:02,965 --> 00:04:06,037 We're already absolutely exhausted, 47 00:04:06,072 --> 00:04:07,798 that's long before we're called. 48 00:04:07,832 --> 00:04:10,939 A lot more air miles to cover. 49 00:04:10,973 --> 00:04:15,978 And of course, to the foothills of the Andes, 50 00:04:17,152 --> 00:04:18,809 Southern America, it's a long way. 51 00:04:19,913 --> 00:04:21,087 We're getting there step-by-step, 52 00:04:21,121 --> 00:04:23,710 we're just gonna chisel away at the miles. 53 00:04:23,745 --> 00:04:26,748 [adventurous music] 54 00:04:33,341 --> 00:04:35,170 Well, we've now boarded the... 55 00:04:38,449 --> 00:04:40,865 Plane that's going to Madrid. 56 00:04:42,039 --> 00:04:44,317 Big plane, all the way, 12-hour flight. 57 00:04:50,254 --> 00:04:54,120 It's gonna be a long flight, so we'll see how things go. 58 00:04:54,154 --> 00:04:55,639 I'm tired already. 59 00:04:57,296 --> 00:05:00,299 [adventurous music] 60 00:05:19,697 --> 00:05:22,148 - [Barry] This is the remaining leg of our mammoth journey, 61 00:05:22,182 --> 00:05:23,563 which will take us to Cusco, 62 00:05:23,598 --> 00:05:26,325 a town hidden in the Andes mountain range. 63 00:05:27,429 --> 00:05:29,914 but before we departed from Lima Airport, 64 00:05:29,949 --> 00:05:31,675 we happened upon a strange encounter, 65 00:05:31,709 --> 00:05:34,574 which left both of us a little unnerved 66 00:05:34,609 --> 00:05:36,749 by what we were about to walk into. 67 00:05:39,027 --> 00:05:40,235 - Well, we were... 68 00:05:41,754 --> 00:05:44,688 We were just leaving Lima Airport actually, 69 00:05:44,722 --> 00:05:48,243 We just sat there [mumbles] and somebody 70 00:05:49,900 --> 00:05:53,421 came over to talk with us, a conversation exchange, 71 00:05:53,455 --> 00:05:55,146 where we were pretty much warned 72 00:05:56,355 --> 00:05:58,529 about not talking aloud about what, 73 00:05:58,564 --> 00:06:02,084 still sounds so crazy, all this, to be honest with you. 74 00:06:02,119 --> 00:06:05,985 I mean, I don't know what I've got myself into. 75 00:06:06,019 --> 00:06:10,058 It's, I'm absolutely paranoid, never been like this before. 76 00:06:10,092 --> 00:06:12,647 But what's really interesting is, 77 00:06:12,681 --> 00:06:14,476 is that some information was exchanged 78 00:06:14,511 --> 00:06:15,960 where we need to know who this person is, 79 00:06:15,995 --> 00:06:18,204 totally shocked us, just came out the plane. 80 00:06:20,068 --> 00:06:22,415 There's a lot more seems been going on than meets the eye, 81 00:06:22,450 --> 00:06:25,142 and sounds like something straight out of a 82 00:06:25,176 --> 00:06:26,799 [airplane rumbling drowns out speaker] 83 00:06:26,833 --> 00:06:28,939 never seen anything like it, for god's sakes. 84 00:06:28,973 --> 00:06:30,803 We can't talk too much about this. 85 00:06:30,837 --> 00:06:33,668 This time, we're on the plane, we're leaving Lima, Peru, 86 00:06:35,290 --> 00:06:36,671 get back to hotel 87 00:06:36,705 --> 00:06:38,431 and we'll be able to explain a little bit more. 88 00:06:38,466 --> 00:06:39,984 At this moment in time, can't talk. 89 00:06:40,019 --> 00:06:42,780 Talk about cloak and dagger. 90 00:06:44,333 --> 00:06:47,336 [adventurous music] 91 00:06:58,589 --> 00:07:03,525 [speaking in foreign language] [crowd applauding] 92 00:07:07,943 --> 00:07:10,946 [suspenseful music] 93 00:07:22,855 --> 00:07:24,063 Oh well. 94 00:07:24,097 --> 00:07:26,997 We finally got to the hotel in Cusco, 95 00:07:27,031 --> 00:07:30,863 literally with 15 minutes to spare. 96 00:07:30,897 --> 00:07:32,934 We're gonna be meeting up with Thierry. 97 00:07:32,968 --> 00:07:35,039 He's the middleman between 98 00:07:35,074 --> 00:07:37,041 the discoverer of the mummy 99 00:07:38,111 --> 00:07:40,113 and the footage that we received 100 00:07:40,148 --> 00:07:42,012 back in April of this year. 101 00:07:43,531 --> 00:07:45,498 We're gonna be meeting up with him very shortly 102 00:07:45,533 --> 00:07:48,087 to finding out what's exactly been going on 103 00:07:48,121 --> 00:07:50,986 and we'll keep you posted as it happens. 104 00:07:51,021 --> 00:07:54,024 [adventurous music] 105 00:07:57,614 --> 00:07:59,236 - [Barry] Steve just had enough time 106 00:07:59,270 --> 00:08:01,031 to change before the meeting. 107 00:08:01,065 --> 00:08:03,654 And I, to set up a camera to record it. 108 00:08:03,689 --> 00:08:06,485 - Hey, you're lucky. - Okay, they never been there. 109 00:08:06,519 --> 00:08:09,453 But they're talking on behalf of-- 110 00:08:09,488 --> 00:08:11,800 - [Steve] Right, they said they mostly need information. 111 00:08:11,835 --> 00:08:13,181 - Yes. 112 00:08:13,215 --> 00:08:17,668 [speaking in foreign language] [telephone ringing] 113 00:08:22,535 --> 00:08:24,088 - [Steve] We were determined 114 00:08:24,123 --> 00:08:26,297 to get as much information as possible. 115 00:08:27,195 --> 00:08:29,853 [speaking in foreign language] 116 00:08:29,887 --> 00:08:34,513 - Yes, he say one of the most important points is the place, 117 00:08:34,547 --> 00:08:35,721 where they find-- - He said-- 118 00:08:35,755 --> 00:08:38,551 - They can't say where. - That's okay, secret. 119 00:08:38,586 --> 00:08:41,623 [speaking in foreign language] 120 00:08:41,658 --> 00:08:44,143 - They say that place where they can be, 121 00:08:44,177 --> 00:08:45,351 there is a very high 122 00:08:45,385 --> 00:08:48,596 electronic magnetic-- - Okay. 123 00:08:48,630 --> 00:08:51,875 [speaking in foreign language] 124 00:08:51,909 --> 00:08:53,152 - They keep in touch. 125 00:08:53,186 --> 00:08:57,190 [speaking in foreign language] 126 00:08:59,434 --> 00:09:02,955 And they also saw life. 127 00:09:02,989 --> 00:09:06,924 [speaking in foreign language] 128 00:09:15,139 --> 00:09:16,900 The size... [speaking in foreign language] 129 00:09:16,934 --> 00:09:21,456 Into meters, they escape. [speaking in foreign language] 130 00:09:21,490 --> 00:09:24,563 - [Barry] We wanted to know where they find this place 131 00:09:24,597 --> 00:09:27,911 and what was on the inside. 132 00:09:27,945 --> 00:09:32,605 [speaking in foreign language] 133 00:09:32,640 --> 00:09:36,264 - They found them in mountain, yes. 134 00:09:36,298 --> 00:09:37,541 [speaking in foreign language] 135 00:09:37,576 --> 00:09:38,991 It's like a cave. 136 00:09:40,199 --> 00:09:41,821 And then you have to go down. 137 00:09:43,133 --> 00:09:47,758 Two meters, go down. [speaking in foreign language] 138 00:09:49,208 --> 00:09:51,693 And then from there, they found different tunnels. 139 00:09:51,728 --> 00:09:54,972 [speaking in foreign language] 140 00:09:55,007 --> 00:09:58,113 Different levels, tunnels. - Cave. 141 00:09:58,148 --> 00:10:00,115 - [Barry] The third and final individual 142 00:10:00,150 --> 00:10:03,498 from the internal circle of the Inkari Institute 143 00:10:03,532 --> 00:10:05,120 arrived at the meeting. 144 00:10:07,122 --> 00:10:08,710 - Hi. - Ed. 145 00:10:08,745 --> 00:10:10,919 - Hi, nice to meet you. - Nice to meet you. 146 00:10:10,954 --> 00:10:14,992 [speaking in foreign language] 147 00:10:15,027 --> 00:10:16,545 - [Barry] The implications that this may have 148 00:10:16,580 --> 00:10:19,721 for world religions is also brought up in the meeting. 149 00:10:21,067 --> 00:10:24,623 - He believed that if this is not a fraud, 150 00:10:24,657 --> 00:10:26,279 then it can change the world. 151 00:10:26,314 --> 00:10:27,211 - It could. 152 00:10:27,246 --> 00:10:31,077 [speaking in foreign language] 153 00:10:37,463 --> 00:10:40,155 - Yes, he say that there is many implications, 154 00:10:40,190 --> 00:10:43,158 like political-- - It could change the world. 155 00:10:43,193 --> 00:10:45,678 - They don't want to be involved in that. 156 00:10:45,713 --> 00:10:48,198 - Okay. - They want is to-- 157 00:10:48,232 --> 00:10:49,648 - Is not a fake. - Yes. 158 00:10:49,682 --> 00:10:52,685 - Yeah, that is not a fake. - If is not a fake. 159 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:54,860 [speaking in foreign language] 160 00:10:54,894 --> 00:10:57,034 - [Flor] They are always in doubt. 161 00:10:57,069 --> 00:10:59,416 - [Barry] Our heads were left spinning 162 00:10:59,450 --> 00:11:02,937 from what we had been told and there was the promise 163 00:11:02,971 --> 00:11:06,181 of obtaining even more information. 164 00:11:08,252 --> 00:11:11,842 - Well, we've just finished that meeting with Thierry 165 00:11:11,877 --> 00:11:14,189 and a couple of his associates. 166 00:11:14,224 --> 00:11:15,708 It was a lot more information 167 00:11:15,743 --> 00:11:19,332 than we could ever have imagined for, to be honest with you. 168 00:11:20,264 --> 00:11:21,887 I'm quite surprised to find out 169 00:11:21,921 --> 00:11:24,648 there's a lot of dodgy stuff going on, it's wild. 170 00:11:24,683 --> 00:11:25,994 I mean, dodgy dealings. 171 00:11:26,029 --> 00:11:28,479 We're talking an international racket here 172 00:11:28,514 --> 00:11:32,380 of European and Asian people, 173 00:11:34,589 --> 00:11:36,004 hierarchy, got a lot of money, 174 00:11:36,039 --> 00:11:37,937 those sort of people that we're talking about 175 00:11:37,972 --> 00:11:42,493 might be buying artifacts illegally. 176 00:11:42,528 --> 00:11:44,530 And that seems to be the case, 177 00:11:44,564 --> 00:11:46,014 and it's absolutely fascinating. 178 00:11:46,049 --> 00:11:48,637 But the more we get into this, the worse, 179 00:11:48,672 --> 00:11:51,054 the bigger the hole is getting. 180 00:11:52,400 --> 00:11:54,782 I don't know, I mean, sometimes you just want to stop, 181 00:11:54,816 --> 00:11:57,888 but we are finding more and more L, 182 00:11:57,923 --> 00:12:00,373 which is just expanding and expanding, 183 00:12:00,408 --> 00:12:04,584 opening new doors of research and information, 184 00:12:04,619 --> 00:12:09,072 which is all a bit worrying, to be quite frank. 185 00:12:09,106 --> 00:12:12,420 And we've got some more information coming tomorrow. 186 00:12:12,454 --> 00:12:16,044 We've got more meetings to do, we've got more filming to do 187 00:12:16,079 --> 00:12:18,737 and we're gonna be told even some, 188 00:12:18,771 --> 00:12:20,255 a lot more things tomorrow 189 00:12:20,290 --> 00:12:22,948 which we've already had an inkling of what's coming. 190 00:12:22,982 --> 00:12:24,156 It's gonna be absolutely fascinating. 191 00:12:24,190 --> 00:12:26,330 So we'll keep you in tuned 192 00:12:26,365 --> 00:12:30,334 as to what unfolds when and where it happens. 193 00:12:31,784 --> 00:12:35,305 Thierry is battling to keep artifacts in the country. 194 00:12:35,339 --> 00:12:36,616 It's as simple as that. 195 00:12:37,963 --> 00:12:40,759 He thinks it's important that they stay in Peru. 196 00:12:40,793 --> 00:12:42,899 And of course, some of these things, 197 00:12:42,933 --> 00:12:44,072 probably a lot of these things, 198 00:12:44,107 --> 00:12:46,143 are actually getting out there. 199 00:12:46,178 --> 00:12:48,111 And some of the things that we've actually been told 200 00:12:48,145 --> 00:12:50,838 is absolutely incredible, to be honest with you, 201 00:12:50,872 --> 00:12:52,943 at least one of those things was apparently 202 00:12:52,978 --> 00:12:54,807 just like we got some more footage. 203 00:12:54,842 --> 00:12:56,050 There's some at the Roswell incident. 204 00:12:56,084 --> 00:12:58,224 This foil unfolds itself, 205 00:12:58,259 --> 00:12:59,847 apparently some of this was found 206 00:13:00,882 --> 00:13:02,781 and was sold for only $8,000 207 00:13:03,885 --> 00:13:05,680 to somebody in Asia. 208 00:13:05,714 --> 00:13:09,442 I mean, that's just incredible, you can't even fathom that. 209 00:13:09,477 --> 00:13:10,892 If that was true, if that be true, 210 00:13:10,927 --> 00:13:15,483 then there is an international market for this, 211 00:13:15,517 --> 00:13:17,174 for these discoveries, and we've been told 212 00:13:17,209 --> 00:13:20,143 that there's a lot more discoveries to come. 213 00:13:20,177 --> 00:13:21,489 We've had an inkling as to 214 00:13:21,523 --> 00:13:23,491 what that might consist of tonight 215 00:13:23,525 --> 00:13:26,943 and we were completely, absolute completely blown away, 216 00:13:26,977 --> 00:13:28,703 with some of the things that we've been shown. 217 00:13:28,737 --> 00:13:32,500 Some of the photographs that would be 218 00:13:32,534 --> 00:13:35,468 put out in front of us is quite incredible. 219 00:13:35,503 --> 00:13:37,919 And we're gonna be finding out a lot more tomorrow. 220 00:13:38,886 --> 00:13:42,372 [upbeat vocalizing music] 221 00:13:44,305 --> 00:13:46,997 Now, in about 15 minutes, we're gonna be catching a taxi 222 00:13:47,032 --> 00:13:49,448 and we're gonna be heading to the Inkari Institute. 223 00:13:49,482 --> 00:13:51,760 We're gonna be needing to talk to Thierry 224 00:13:51,795 --> 00:13:53,486 about some of the biggest questions 225 00:13:53,521 --> 00:13:55,385 everyone seems to be posing over the Internet 226 00:13:55,419 --> 00:13:58,802 right at this moment in time, questions about the mummy. 227 00:13:58,837 --> 00:14:00,666 Now not only that, we're gonna be finding out 228 00:14:00,700 --> 00:14:02,702 a little bit about Thierry's work, 229 00:14:02,737 --> 00:14:05,498 the whereabout is, the mummy is, the findings 230 00:14:05,533 --> 00:14:07,742 and of course, a little bit about the Institute itself. 231 00:14:07,776 --> 00:14:10,020 So it's gonna really interesting, so stick with us. 232 00:14:10,055 --> 00:14:11,677 We hope to get some answers. 233 00:14:11,711 --> 00:14:14,714 [adventurous music] 234 00:14:56,239 --> 00:14:57,757 - Can you tell me a little bit 235 00:14:57,792 --> 00:14:59,449 about the work that the Institute does 236 00:14:59,483 --> 00:15:01,727 and how far do you travel? 237 00:15:44,356 --> 00:15:46,841 - And we can see obviously from around the room, 238 00:15:46,875 --> 00:15:49,533 it's full of books, it's full of research, 239 00:15:49,568 --> 00:15:51,880 it's full of reports, projects. 240 00:15:51,915 --> 00:15:54,504 So you collect the archives and keep all the information. 241 00:15:54,538 --> 00:15:58,957 So more recently, over the Internet, there's been some 242 00:15:58,991 --> 00:16:01,235 remarkable information has been released 243 00:16:01,269 --> 00:16:04,238 in regarding some unusual bodies that have been discovered. 244 00:16:07,068 --> 00:16:08,725 - Knocked on the door, right. 245 00:16:11,141 --> 00:16:13,972 - Small body, organs, yes. 246 00:16:15,870 --> 00:16:19,115 - The most recent discovery, I assume, is Maria. 247 00:16:30,436 --> 00:16:33,957 - With all the organs, yes, that's a body. 248 00:16:36,546 --> 00:16:37,754 - Yes, 'cause they initially said 249 00:16:37,788 --> 00:16:39,135 it was a mummy, didn't they? 250 00:16:39,169 --> 00:16:44,174 Yes, the Internet. [speaking in foreign language] 251 00:16:57,084 --> 00:16:59,741 - What has been a huge amount of interest recently 252 00:16:59,776 --> 00:17:01,709 over the Internet worldwide 253 00:17:01,743 --> 00:17:04,470 in regarding the discovery of this body 254 00:17:04,505 --> 00:17:08,992 and of course, numerous people have been also analyzing it. 255 00:17:09,027 --> 00:17:11,753 Now the most unusual thing about this body 256 00:17:11,788 --> 00:17:16,137 is that it's got only three fingers and only three toes. 257 00:17:44,234 --> 00:17:45,580 - Three fingers. - Three fingers 258 00:17:45,615 --> 00:17:50,137 and three toes, now what is unusual about Maria 259 00:17:50,171 --> 00:17:54,486 is that she's covered in something that looks white. 260 00:17:54,520 --> 00:17:56,660 Does Thierry have any idea what that is? 261 00:17:58,800 --> 00:18:01,044 - [Woman] The small bodies. 262 00:18:04,944 --> 00:18:07,706 - [Woman] The body of the Greys. 263 00:18:10,709 --> 00:18:11,882 - [Woman] Yes. 264 00:18:11,917 --> 00:18:13,470 - And are they the same color, or white? 265 00:18:13,505 --> 00:18:16,818 - [Woman] No no, the gray-- - Those Greys? 266 00:18:21,409 --> 00:18:25,827 - [Woman] He say that the Greys, they have slightly white. 267 00:18:29,037 --> 00:18:32,248 - [Woman] And it looks like in the past were taken. 268 00:18:32,282 --> 00:18:33,766 - Were taken. - Yes. 269 00:18:33,801 --> 00:18:37,460 - Okay, and we don't know what this white substance is 270 00:18:37,494 --> 00:18:40,670 on the body of Maria, we're waiting for analysis. 271 00:18:49,541 --> 00:18:53,269 - So Maria may have been taken from one place 272 00:18:53,303 --> 00:18:56,755 and moved to somewhere else and this may be something to do, 273 00:18:56,789 --> 00:18:58,688 why she's covered in white. 274 00:19:03,210 --> 00:19:04,556 - Okay, so we really don't know-- 275 00:19:04,590 --> 00:19:06,834 - Not yet. - We know there's something, 276 00:19:06,868 --> 00:19:09,975 but we're not too sure and analysis is taking place. 277 00:19:10,009 --> 00:19:12,357 - Yes. - Was analysis taking place 278 00:19:12,391 --> 00:19:15,325 from their hands as well as the body? 279 00:19:16,913 --> 00:19:18,294 - Yes. - Yeah, and we're waiting 280 00:19:18,328 --> 00:19:20,192 on information coming back from that. 281 00:19:28,166 --> 00:19:31,755 - [Woman] They're going to say about Maria. 282 00:19:36,691 --> 00:19:39,832 - [Woman] Si, no, you can see the digits. 283 00:19:39,867 --> 00:19:41,420 - The digits, the fingers. 284 00:19:58,126 --> 00:20:00,198 Right. - The foot of Maria. 285 00:20:03,994 --> 00:20:05,996 - Very long. - Very long. 286 00:20:10,138 --> 00:20:12,520 - Yes. 287 00:20:15,040 --> 00:20:18,285 - They're very very hard to fake, double ridges, as we know. 288 00:20:18,319 --> 00:20:20,804 Fascinating, wonderful. 289 00:20:20,839 --> 00:20:22,737 - Incredible. - Incredible. 290 00:20:31,884 --> 00:20:36,164 - Now, looking at the feet, it doesn't look like 291 00:20:37,338 --> 00:20:39,582 Maria would have been able to walk very well. 292 00:20:49,971 --> 00:20:52,974 - Has anybody suggested 293 00:20:53,009 --> 00:20:56,357 that it could be amphibian? 294 00:20:56,392 --> 00:20:58,117 That they may have been wet? 295 00:21:01,259 --> 00:21:02,156 - No, no no no. - No? 296 00:21:02,190 --> 00:21:03,502 'Cause they don't, no ears. 297 00:21:05,849 --> 00:21:09,991 - Okay, I'm just curious if anybody had made a suggestion. 298 00:21:10,026 --> 00:21:12,304 Because we're trying to find out what, 299 00:21:12,339 --> 00:21:15,307 lots of people think that it might be extraterrestrial. 300 00:21:15,342 --> 00:21:17,723 This is the sort of thing it's on the Internet. 301 00:21:23,971 --> 00:21:26,836 - [Woman] Yeah, Maria looks like between humans-- 302 00:21:26,870 --> 00:21:29,010 - A mix. - A new breed. 303 00:21:29,045 --> 00:21:30,771 - A mix, a new breed. 304 00:21:34,222 --> 00:21:35,707 - It is, yes, yes. 305 00:21:39,055 --> 00:21:41,782 - [Woman] We had the opportunity. 306 00:21:42,679 --> 00:21:44,163 - [Woman] To exam. 307 00:21:45,406 --> 00:21:46,787 - A baby. - Right. 308 00:21:51,999 --> 00:21:56,624 - [Woman] Three fingers, three toes. 309 00:21:56,659 --> 00:21:59,386 - [Woman] There is a possibility. 310 00:22:05,426 --> 00:22:08,360 - [Woman] They're going to present. 311 00:22:09,534 --> 00:22:13,020 - [Woman] They try to let the world know. 312 00:22:13,054 --> 00:22:14,815 - Let the world know. 313 00:22:16,851 --> 00:22:18,543 - Yes. - Fake. 314 00:22:18,577 --> 00:22:20,061 - Fraud or something. - Yes. 315 00:22:24,963 --> 00:22:28,346 - Right, so we'll talk, what we're getting to now, to the crunch of the matter, 316 00:22:28,380 --> 00:22:30,727 is that there has been some of the bodies located as well, 317 00:22:30,762 --> 00:22:33,730 discovered, and some of these bodies have, 318 00:22:33,765 --> 00:22:35,318 it's a being that seems to have a neck 319 00:22:35,353 --> 00:22:37,872 it can move up and down just slightly. 320 00:22:37,907 --> 00:22:40,703 The Steven Spielberg ET, just as our people are saying, 321 00:22:40,737 --> 00:22:42,981 which is fascinating, but they believe that they are 322 00:22:43,015 --> 00:22:45,501 actually absolutely real, they're real 323 00:22:45,535 --> 00:22:48,711 and they are referring to them as small beings, 324 00:22:48,745 --> 00:22:51,955 bit like the alien Greys that we heard of today. 325 00:22:51,990 --> 00:22:55,856 And again, a lot more information is need to come to light, 326 00:22:55,890 --> 00:22:57,340 but some of these bodies, which is, 327 00:22:57,375 --> 00:22:59,377 this is a real important part, 328 00:22:59,411 --> 00:23:02,310 some of these bodies have been put together, 329 00:23:02,345 --> 00:23:05,003 maybe manufactured by somebody 330 00:23:05,037 --> 00:23:07,523 and we don't know who and we don't why. 331 00:23:07,557 --> 00:23:10,457 Has the Peruvian government 332 00:23:10,491 --> 00:23:12,700 been interested in trying to find out more? 333 00:23:21,329 --> 00:23:23,815 - Credible scientists apparently have done some work 334 00:23:23,849 --> 00:23:25,230 and apparently are confirming 335 00:23:25,264 --> 00:23:28,129 that there are some unusualities about this. 336 00:23:28,164 --> 00:23:29,683 Is there a press conference coming up? 337 00:23:29,717 --> 00:23:31,374 A press announcement coming up? 338 00:23:38,485 --> 00:23:41,833 - Okay, so we hope there'll be more information's 339 00:23:41,867 --> 00:23:44,732 gonna come to light, we wait until tomorrow. 340 00:23:45,940 --> 00:23:48,115 Well, what can I say, I mean, tonight has just, 341 00:23:48,149 --> 00:23:51,083 just has been a mind-blowing session of interviews 342 00:23:51,118 --> 00:23:54,293 with these guys from the Inkari Institute. 343 00:23:54,328 --> 00:23:57,227 And to be honest with you, I really do feel for them, 344 00:23:57,262 --> 00:23:59,333 because it does seem that they really are been placed 345 00:23:59,367 --> 00:24:01,887 right in the middle of this between the discoveries, 346 00:24:01,922 --> 00:24:05,788 literally, as you heard him say, just turned up here 347 00:24:05,822 --> 00:24:09,619 and dropped these damn bodies on their counter, 348 00:24:09,654 --> 00:24:12,070 and say, "Hey guys, you deal with it," you know? 349 00:24:13,416 --> 00:24:15,453 And at the same time, they're trying to figure out, 350 00:24:15,487 --> 00:24:17,040 "How are we gonna deal with this? 351 00:24:17,075 --> 00:24:19,595 "We've got to deal with the government. We got to deal with the press." 352 00:24:19,629 --> 00:24:23,081 It's a monstrous, absolute monstrous task that befell them. 353 00:24:23,115 --> 00:24:25,324 Now, what's really interesting is that the fact 354 00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:28,293 is that they've already stated that some of these bodies 355 00:24:28,327 --> 00:24:31,952 have been seem to be doctored and that's wonderful, 356 00:24:31,986 --> 00:24:34,610 because the sincerity coming from these guys 357 00:24:34,644 --> 00:24:36,266 that they're trying to find the truth, 358 00:24:36,301 --> 00:24:37,992 they're trying to figure out 359 00:24:38,027 --> 00:24:40,132 is there anything unusual about these things, 360 00:24:40,167 --> 00:24:43,411 especially the latest, which is confirmed, 361 00:24:43,446 --> 00:24:46,242 it's not a mummy, it is a body. 362 00:24:46,276 --> 00:24:47,899 This latest body's been discovered, 363 00:24:47,933 --> 00:24:49,417 so we're referring to as Maria. 364 00:24:49,452 --> 00:24:50,902 Now some analysis have been taking place 365 00:24:50,936 --> 00:24:54,526 and we ask the questions that, is covered in white, 366 00:24:54,561 --> 00:24:56,770 what is it, is it some type of plaster, they don't know. 367 00:24:56,804 --> 00:24:59,324 They don't know, now that means, that's telling me 368 00:24:59,358 --> 00:25:02,258 they've not seen this before on other bodies, 369 00:25:02,292 --> 00:25:04,778 which makes it quite unique, but nevertheless though, 370 00:25:04,812 --> 00:25:06,227 they're waiting on information. 371 00:25:06,262 --> 00:25:07,608 DNA has been taken from the bodies, 372 00:25:07,643 --> 00:25:09,299 DNA has been take from the hands. 373 00:25:09,334 --> 00:25:10,887 We've talked about the bones, we've talked about the feet, 374 00:25:10,922 --> 00:25:14,270 we're looking at the anatomy of this thing, what is it? 375 00:25:14,304 --> 00:25:17,445 Is it, as they say, could this possibly be 376 00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:19,862 a new type of species, we just don't know. 377 00:25:19,896 --> 00:25:21,553 We're waiting on this information coming back, 378 00:25:21,588 --> 00:25:23,866 and that'll determine exactly what this thing is. 379 00:25:23,900 --> 00:25:26,834 In the meantime, these guys are in the middle 380 00:25:28,249 --> 00:25:31,149 of a storm, a media storm throughout the whole incident. 381 00:25:31,183 --> 00:25:33,634 And it's also things going on in the background as well. 382 00:25:33,669 --> 00:25:36,188 It seems to be like a, 383 00:25:36,223 --> 00:25:40,158 a group of individuals around the world that purchase 384 00:25:40,192 --> 00:25:43,886 such items like this from those that discover them. 385 00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:46,440 And of course what they've said right from beginning is 386 00:25:46,474 --> 00:25:49,063 they've always wanted to make sure that they keep these things in Peru. 387 00:25:49,098 --> 00:25:52,101 So anybody out there is going to be asking these questions. 388 00:25:52,135 --> 00:25:54,310 I suggest, travel halfway around the world like we have 389 00:25:54,344 --> 00:25:56,381 and talk to these guys face-to-face 390 00:25:56,415 --> 00:25:58,763 'cause they have a story to tell and this story 391 00:25:58,797 --> 00:26:01,835 could be potentially one of the biggest ever, 392 00:26:01,869 --> 00:26:03,353 as far as I'm concerned. 393 00:26:04,631 --> 00:26:07,357 [mysterious music] 394 00:26:07,392 --> 00:26:10,498 [telephone ringing] 395 00:26:17,644 --> 00:26:20,163 The early hours of this morning, we received a phone call, 396 00:26:20,198 --> 00:26:22,200 pretty much out the blue, kept us up pretty much 397 00:26:22,234 --> 00:26:25,237 most of the rest of the early morning here. 398 00:26:25,272 --> 00:26:27,067 It was a phone call to say that we might have 399 00:26:27,101 --> 00:26:29,828 the opportunity to actually witness some things. 400 00:26:29,863 --> 00:26:33,280 Artifacts or whatever these will be, I don't have no idea, 401 00:26:33,314 --> 00:26:35,109 but it's got to be kept secret. 402 00:26:35,144 --> 00:26:37,940 I mean, it's a location that we're not allowed to film, 403 00:26:37,974 --> 00:26:39,458 we're not allowed to film the person 404 00:26:39,493 --> 00:26:41,495 who's going to be picking us up here at the hotel 405 00:26:41,529 --> 00:26:45,154 nor that of the driver or the vehicle, and most of all, 406 00:26:45,188 --> 00:26:46,707 we're not allowed to take our cell phones with us. 407 00:26:46,742 --> 00:26:48,226 Now that sparks off a big debate 408 00:26:48,260 --> 00:26:49,814 between myself and Barry here because we're trying 409 00:26:49,848 --> 00:26:52,092 to roll it backwards and forwards, what we're gonna do 410 00:26:52,126 --> 00:26:54,646 because it doesn't, it does not sit well 411 00:26:54,681 --> 00:26:56,786 because we got no communication, if anything goes wrong, 412 00:26:56,821 --> 00:26:58,029 we don't know what we're gonna do. 413 00:26:58,063 --> 00:26:59,824 But we do have a bit of a back-up plan 414 00:26:59,858 --> 00:27:02,585 and this is this wonderful little watch on my hand. 415 00:27:02,620 --> 00:27:06,658 It does record, so we are gonna set that recording. 416 00:27:06,693 --> 00:27:08,936 We never know what we're gonna get. 417 00:27:08,971 --> 00:27:10,835 But we'll just have to see. 418 00:27:10,869 --> 00:27:13,872 [suspenseful music] 419 00:27:53,291 --> 00:27:55,983 We're getting close to this location 420 00:27:56,018 --> 00:27:57,847 where we're supposed to be being taken to. 421 00:27:57,882 --> 00:27:59,607 No idea where we are. 422 00:27:59,642 --> 00:28:02,887 It's a bit hard to actually talk, very thin, the air. 423 00:28:04,095 --> 00:28:06,545 We've been climbing for a good, I don't know, 424 00:28:06,580 --> 00:28:08,686 seems about 45 minutes, an hour, 425 00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:10,860 and then we started off at 11,000 feet. 426 00:28:10,895 --> 00:28:14,070 God knows what we are at this moment in time. 427 00:28:14,105 --> 00:28:16,797 But we've been now instructed to turn our cameras off. 428 00:28:18,212 --> 00:28:20,663 What also is quite concerning is that we weren't allowed 429 00:28:20,698 --> 00:28:22,527 to bring our cell phones with us 430 00:28:22,561 --> 00:28:24,874 and of course, that's a big concern as you well imagine, 431 00:28:24,909 --> 00:28:26,980 but we had to face the situation. 432 00:28:27,014 --> 00:28:29,258 And myself and Barry did have this discussion 433 00:28:30,397 --> 00:28:33,400 back at the hotel, should we pretty much 434 00:28:33,434 --> 00:28:35,885 just throw our cards in, put our tails between our legs, 435 00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:38,163 go back home and just not go through it 436 00:28:38,198 --> 00:28:40,200 because it is a bit concerning this. 437 00:28:40,234 --> 00:28:42,685 But we've decided against that, we decided to, 438 00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:44,963 well, you know, "What the hell, we're gonna go for it." 439 00:28:44,998 --> 00:28:47,103 We don't know what we're gonna be shown 440 00:28:47,138 --> 00:28:49,105 and we'd be taken to a certain location, 441 00:28:49,140 --> 00:28:53,075 I have no idea where we are, but concerned? 442 00:28:53,109 --> 00:28:54,835 Yes, absolutely concerned. 443 00:28:56,561 --> 00:28:57,769 Yeah, we are, we will do. 444 00:28:57,804 --> 00:28:59,253 We are turning off the cameras now. 445 00:28:59,288 --> 00:29:01,186 And we'll see what happens. 446 00:29:04,224 --> 00:29:06,536 - [Barry] With our high altitude trip over, 447 00:29:06,571 --> 00:29:10,540 we were escorted into a building we'd never seen before 448 00:29:10,575 --> 00:29:14,027 and into a room where men waited in surgical dress. 449 00:29:15,028 --> 00:29:16,615 Within moments of our arrival, 450 00:29:16,650 --> 00:29:20,723 we too had to dress in the same surgical gowns and masks 451 00:29:20,758 --> 00:29:23,588 and body after body was presented to us 452 00:29:23,622 --> 00:29:25,832 to film and document. 453 00:29:25,866 --> 00:29:28,800 [mysterious music] 454 00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:40,260 - Now you see the teeth. 455 00:29:40,294 --> 00:29:42,918 What we've got here is the side of the skull 456 00:29:42,952 --> 00:29:46,611 showing the teeth which could be obviously from fish, 457 00:29:46,645 --> 00:29:50,995 doesn't look like human teeth, and you can see the ribcage, 458 00:29:51,029 --> 00:29:53,135 it looks like it's manufactured. 459 00:29:53,169 --> 00:29:58,174 The arm length down here too, it's lower than its knees. 460 00:29:58,347 --> 00:30:00,314 And of course, the feet at the bottom. 461 00:30:01,764 --> 00:30:04,525 There's a side profile of that particular x-ray of the body, 462 00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:09,565 again confirming that this is in fact been manufactured. 463 00:30:10,290 --> 00:30:12,671 [mysterious music] 464 00:30:18,919 --> 00:30:21,646 [people speaking softly] 465 00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:24,338 - [Steve] Yeah, they have a lot of golden color. 466 00:30:24,373 --> 00:30:25,961 So what we're dealing with here, 467 00:30:27,583 --> 00:30:29,999 what we're dealing with here is these three hands 468 00:30:31,449 --> 00:30:33,934 and what we've been told is, is that they seem to have 469 00:30:33,969 --> 00:30:36,005 some type of implant on top of them 470 00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:39,250 and as we can see, we'll get some close-ups 471 00:30:39,284 --> 00:30:41,045 but as we can see there is a design, 472 00:30:41,079 --> 00:30:43,668 it looks like it's gold in coloration, 473 00:30:43,702 --> 00:30:45,256 some type of pattern, however, 474 00:30:46,464 --> 00:30:49,087 right across the bridge of the hand 475 00:30:49,122 --> 00:30:50,399 and the same for this one. 476 00:30:51,849 --> 00:30:53,333 Looks like these two seem to have that marking, 477 00:30:53,367 --> 00:30:56,681 and this one doesn't, but as you can tell from these, 478 00:30:56,715 --> 00:30:59,960 they're very similar, three fingers 479 00:30:59,995 --> 00:31:03,653 and of course, dealing with again, a number of extra bones. 480 00:31:03,688 --> 00:31:07,761 We're dealing with one, two, three, four, five. 481 00:31:07,795 --> 00:31:10,384 But we do want to have-- - There's-- 482 00:31:10,419 --> 00:31:13,111 - Six, six is the tip. 483 00:31:14,009 --> 00:31:17,012 [mysterious music] 484 00:31:21,948 --> 00:31:24,847 Okay. So what we're actually seeing here is one of the hands. 485 00:31:24,882 --> 00:31:28,023 This is representing this metal plate, implant, 486 00:31:28,057 --> 00:31:30,163 whatever you want to call it 487 00:31:30,197 --> 00:31:33,269 and as we mentioned earlier, it's gold in color, 488 00:31:33,304 --> 00:31:35,789 it has some type of pattern to it 489 00:31:35,823 --> 00:31:37,825 and it does feature on two of the hands. 490 00:31:38,965 --> 00:31:41,726 It's definitely visible throughout the X-ray. 491 00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:43,141 As for what that actually represents, 492 00:31:43,176 --> 00:31:45,419 if it's metal, what type of metal? 493 00:31:46,627 --> 00:31:48,077 That's completely unknown, like I say, 494 00:31:48,112 --> 00:31:50,977 analysis is currently taking place, samples have been taken, 495 00:31:51,011 --> 00:31:53,634 and you can see the six bones in the fingers. 496 00:31:55,188 --> 00:31:59,330 And what is very, very interesting is how these are actually 497 00:31:59,364 --> 00:32:02,022 put together here, then joined, 498 00:32:02,057 --> 00:32:04,473 and it looks like there's further bones as well. 499 00:32:05,646 --> 00:32:09,029 Now, anatomically, I'm no expert, anatomically, 500 00:32:10,237 --> 00:32:13,378 but what I can say is that it's, all these, 501 00:32:13,413 --> 00:32:16,071 these particular hands are all going to fall down 502 00:32:16,105 --> 00:32:18,452 to the analysis, the independent analysis 503 00:32:18,487 --> 00:32:22,042 that's taking place, maybe secondary analysis 504 00:32:22,077 --> 00:32:26,495 might be necessary to confirm if this structure 505 00:32:27,323 --> 00:32:28,635 is in fact correct. 506 00:32:30,085 --> 00:32:33,571 So right of this moment, it's open, it's open at the moment. 507 00:32:33,605 --> 00:32:36,850 We don't know, but what we do know is that 508 00:32:36,884 --> 00:32:39,784 we're waiting on analysis to come back to confirm 509 00:32:39,818 --> 00:32:43,857 if there's anything authentic about these particular hands. 510 00:32:43,891 --> 00:32:46,618 But what is interesting is these are significantly different 511 00:32:46,653 --> 00:32:49,414 than what we've just seen on a smaller body. 512 00:32:49,449 --> 00:32:52,762 And it seems to be a consistent amount of bone and muscle 513 00:32:52,797 --> 00:32:55,973 that seems to be evident within the top part of this hand, 514 00:32:57,422 --> 00:32:59,217 as they are in the other two. 515 00:32:59,252 --> 00:33:01,357 I wouldn't really want to comment without the analysis 516 00:33:01,392 --> 00:33:03,670 confirming how these are actually authentic. 517 00:33:03,704 --> 00:33:04,878 But at the end of the day, 518 00:33:04,912 --> 00:33:06,086 if anything comes back from these hands, 519 00:33:06,121 --> 00:33:08,261 they are or have not been altered, 520 00:33:10,297 --> 00:33:13,438 well, it is what it is, as you can see. 521 00:33:13,473 --> 00:33:15,371 A hand may be of something, 522 00:33:15,406 --> 00:33:17,718 which might actually be a new type of species 523 00:33:17,753 --> 00:33:21,550 or other type of species, an unknown species, for sure. 524 00:33:23,655 --> 00:33:26,417 We were looking at two skulls here, and as you can see, 525 00:33:28,074 --> 00:33:30,559 the biggest difference here is the elongation 526 00:33:30,593 --> 00:33:34,011 because we've all seen skulls probably from monkeys before 527 00:33:34,045 --> 00:33:36,185 and as you can see, the long elongation, 528 00:33:37,669 --> 00:33:41,018 which is something unusual, though they do have the size 529 00:33:42,433 --> 00:33:47,093 from the front of monkey, but very large eye sockets. 530 00:33:48,335 --> 00:33:50,268 They does have this long elongation. 531 00:33:50,303 --> 00:33:53,996 Apart from that, it does seem to have some cranial ridges. 532 00:33:54,031 --> 00:33:55,618 We have a sense of cranial ridge 533 00:33:56,516 --> 00:33:58,380 and we have two cranial arches 534 00:33:58,414 --> 00:34:00,589 coming around on either side, 535 00:34:00,623 --> 00:34:03,074 and that's exactly the same for this one, 536 00:34:03,109 --> 00:34:05,456 which is almost identical; to be honest, really 537 00:34:05,490 --> 00:34:07,251 there's not much difference between them. 538 00:34:07,285 --> 00:34:11,289 We are told that there's something that's inside 539 00:34:12,463 --> 00:34:14,154 of this, maybe a little part of the vertebrae, 540 00:34:14,189 --> 00:34:17,916 maybe a little bit of both, but also on this particular one, 541 00:34:17,951 --> 00:34:22,852 what we can see is that the first part of the vertebrae, 542 00:34:23,784 --> 00:34:24,958 as we can see here, 543 00:34:24,992 --> 00:34:26,787 we'll take some close-up shots of these here, 544 00:34:28,099 --> 00:34:30,446 and there's a probably similar in weight. 545 00:34:30,481 --> 00:34:32,586 And what's interesting about these particular X-rays 546 00:34:32,621 --> 00:34:35,106 of the two skulls that we've just been looking at 547 00:34:35,141 --> 00:34:37,212 is that the first thing that is interesting, 548 00:34:37,246 --> 00:34:40,007 but I want you to note the elongation of these skulls 549 00:34:40,042 --> 00:34:42,251 because this is one of the biggest mysteries 550 00:34:42,286 --> 00:34:43,563 about these skulls is it's, 551 00:34:43,597 --> 00:34:46,221 purely it's shape and the cranial ridging. 552 00:34:46,255 --> 00:34:49,224 You can see from the cranial ridging and you can also see 553 00:34:49,258 --> 00:34:53,090 what looks to be some type of membrane on both skulls 554 00:34:53,124 --> 00:34:55,299 as it's shaped at the back 555 00:34:55,333 --> 00:34:58,060 and also you can clearly see the jawbone in there. 556 00:34:58,095 --> 00:35:00,200 But again like I mentioned, no teeth. 557 00:35:00,235 --> 00:35:03,652 Looks to be large eyes, and we're not too sure 558 00:35:03,686 --> 00:35:05,861 what these are, what this represents 559 00:35:05,895 --> 00:35:07,932 in the scans, in these X-rays. 560 00:35:09,002 --> 00:35:10,176 It has been suggested that it may be 561 00:35:10,210 --> 00:35:12,592 some type of metal plates in there. 562 00:35:13,938 --> 00:35:16,078 It's a little bit unsure; I'm not too sure. 563 00:35:16,113 --> 00:35:20,151 You can see the center position here to the vertebrae 564 00:35:20,186 --> 00:35:22,498 and of course, causing the skull be able 565 00:35:22,533 --> 00:35:25,984 to be regularly balanced properly. 566 00:35:26,019 --> 00:35:28,918 [mysterious music] 567 00:35:31,714 --> 00:35:33,544 - [Steve] Okay, so what we're looking at here 568 00:35:33,578 --> 00:35:37,996 is a secondary body, a little bit longer and larger 569 00:35:38,031 --> 00:35:40,447 than the first one that we saw tonight. 570 00:35:40,482 --> 00:35:43,450 - [Barry] Steve thought it prudent to measure the body, 571 00:35:43,485 --> 00:35:47,489 which was 25 1/2 inches long, and at its widest point, 572 00:35:47,523 --> 00:35:52,494 between the shoulders, was a meager 7 1/2 inches wide. 573 00:35:52,528 --> 00:35:54,116 - [Steve] Now, what's interesting is, 574 00:35:54,151 --> 00:35:56,291 from what we looked at earlier 575 00:35:56,325 --> 00:36:00,087 were the two previous spore skulls, that this looks to have 576 00:36:00,122 --> 00:36:02,745 the same type of skull that we've recently just seen, 577 00:36:02,780 --> 00:36:05,092 but in fact, it's attached to the body in this occasion. 578 00:36:05,127 --> 00:36:06,991 And if we actually take a measure of this and we know 579 00:36:07,025 --> 00:36:09,304 what we were measuring from last time, is that 580 00:36:12,099 --> 00:36:13,687 he's coming in at 70 millimeters, 581 00:36:13,722 --> 00:36:15,448 which is roughly round about the same size 582 00:36:15,482 --> 00:36:17,691 as the previous two skulls, 583 00:36:17,726 --> 00:36:20,280 but the same type of cranial ridging, 584 00:36:21,212 --> 00:36:23,387 the large eye sockets 585 00:36:24,767 --> 00:36:27,184 and we can see the central point from vertebrae 586 00:36:28,254 --> 00:36:30,739 and that long elongation of the head. 587 00:36:32,189 --> 00:36:34,363 It's also interesting to know that we've been told 588 00:36:34,398 --> 00:36:37,228 from the X-rays that have been coming out 589 00:36:38,712 --> 00:36:42,060 is that it looks to have a skeletal neck, 590 00:36:44,201 --> 00:36:45,823 which may have been adjustable, 591 00:36:47,342 --> 00:36:50,137 which may have got short and larger. 592 00:36:51,311 --> 00:36:54,797 Also it's interesting to look, note on its legs, 593 00:36:54,832 --> 00:36:59,250 that it's right hip joint seems to have 594 00:36:59,285 --> 00:37:01,701 what is referred to as an implant ball, 595 00:37:01,735 --> 00:37:05,325 some type of mechanism in there, 596 00:37:06,706 --> 00:37:09,812 similar to what you probably find in elderly people 597 00:37:09,847 --> 00:37:13,747 when they have some type of hip replacement 598 00:37:13,782 --> 00:37:15,197 or something of that degree. 599 00:37:16,302 --> 00:37:17,924 It's got a very, I have to admit though, 600 00:37:17,958 --> 00:37:21,307 it's got a very, very unusual posture, 601 00:37:21,341 --> 00:37:24,310 because it doesn't look like 602 00:37:27,313 --> 00:37:28,900 nothing I've ever seen before, to be honest with you, 603 00:37:28,935 --> 00:37:31,248 the way this is designed here at the top, 604 00:37:31,282 --> 00:37:32,318 very, very straight, 605 00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:37,081 very broad, very unusual rib cage. 606 00:37:38,220 --> 00:37:39,842 Again, like most of the other things 607 00:37:39,877 --> 00:37:41,361 that we've been seeing tonight 608 00:37:42,500 --> 00:37:45,089 has this covering of this white, white powder 609 00:37:46,263 --> 00:37:48,817 and as to what that is is still a mystery 610 00:37:48,851 --> 00:37:53,270 and apparently waiting on analysis to come back 611 00:37:53,304 --> 00:37:54,995 to confirm what that consists of. 612 00:37:55,030 --> 00:37:57,826 - So what we're seeing on the X-ray for this particular body 613 00:37:57,860 --> 00:38:00,415 is an oversized clavicle bone here, 614 00:38:00,449 --> 00:38:02,382 as you can see, across the tops here. 615 00:38:02,417 --> 00:38:04,419 Also what is interesting is that doesn't seem 616 00:38:04,453 --> 00:38:07,836 to have any ball joints at the top part of its arms. 617 00:38:07,870 --> 00:38:09,320 So I'm not too sure how 618 00:38:09,355 --> 00:38:11,598 that would have actually moved or maneuvered around. 619 00:38:11,633 --> 00:38:13,738 Also what's interesting is that it looks like the bones 620 00:38:13,773 --> 00:38:16,500 have knitted, which would suggest that it is in fact 621 00:38:16,534 --> 00:38:19,226 an [mumbles] of an adult than it is a child. 622 00:38:19,261 --> 00:38:22,368 And the absence of being able to fit lungs in, 623 00:38:22,402 --> 00:38:23,541 we have to ask the question, 624 00:38:23,576 --> 00:38:26,889 "How did this creature breathe?"รบ 625 00:38:26,924 --> 00:38:28,132 There doesn't seem to be any evidence 626 00:38:28,166 --> 00:38:30,410 of a nasal passage anemia, 627 00:38:30,445 --> 00:38:33,448 so either this is a completely manufactured creature 628 00:38:33,482 --> 00:38:35,967 or it may be something that we've, 629 00:38:36,002 --> 00:38:38,004 so profound we don't know what it is 630 00:38:38,038 --> 00:38:41,628 and it may not have required oxygen, 631 00:38:41,663 --> 00:38:44,148 it may not have been breathing oxygen, we just don't know. 632 00:38:44,182 --> 00:38:48,014 We can see the obvious deformity in the hip 633 00:38:48,048 --> 00:38:51,189 and what looks to be the actually catching 634 00:38:51,224 --> 00:38:52,915 the metallic implant or something 635 00:38:52,950 --> 00:38:55,435 that's been placed in the hip to maybe strengthen it. 636 00:38:55,470 --> 00:38:57,817 Does look like there's an abnormality there 637 00:38:57,851 --> 00:39:00,923 and of course, the long neck as well. 638 00:39:00,958 --> 00:39:03,305 Very interesting, but we have not seen anything 639 00:39:03,340 --> 00:39:07,723 that's really has grabbed me, but nevertheless though, 640 00:39:07,758 --> 00:39:10,036 we're gonna have to wait for the analysis to come back 641 00:39:10,070 --> 00:39:14,730 to confirm, is this any known creature at all? 642 00:39:16,007 --> 00:39:18,769 A bit of a mystery at this moment in time. But as for the X-rays, 643 00:39:18,803 --> 00:39:21,565 I'm not very convinced on this particular one, 644 00:39:21,599 --> 00:39:23,774 but who knows, we could be looking at something 645 00:39:23,808 --> 00:39:26,846 that we couldn't possibly fathom in our minds 646 00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:30,401 or if that's something which has been, again, manipulated. 647 00:39:32,230 --> 00:39:34,681 So what we're dealing with here is a second body, 648 00:39:36,890 --> 00:39:40,687 and lots more less similar in size, 649 00:39:41,723 --> 00:39:43,897 though we are told that 650 00:39:43,932 --> 00:39:47,660 this represents a female of this species. 651 00:39:47,694 --> 00:39:51,249 Notice again the same size of the cranium, 652 00:39:52,975 --> 00:39:57,014 the same sort of arching and face features, 653 00:39:57,048 --> 00:39:59,706 central position on the vertebrae 654 00:39:59,741 --> 00:40:02,951 and slightly shorter neck in this case. 655 00:40:02,985 --> 00:40:05,609 But what is most interesting is that it looks like to be 656 00:40:05,643 --> 00:40:10,648 some type of implant, implant there which is metal, 657 00:40:12,029 --> 00:40:15,412 which we can clearly identify that on the X-rays. 658 00:40:15,446 --> 00:40:18,276 Not too sure what that is, but what also is probably 659 00:40:18,311 --> 00:40:20,382 the most significant thing about this 660 00:40:21,763 --> 00:40:24,524 is that does look to have a raised stomach area 661 00:40:26,146 --> 00:40:28,425 and apparently, according to the X-rays, 662 00:40:29,909 --> 00:40:34,292 it would look like there are three bones has a purpose X 663 00:40:35,466 --> 00:40:38,435 in there, indicating that this species 664 00:40:38,469 --> 00:40:42,646 or whatever they say is may have been reptilean in nature. 665 00:40:44,095 --> 00:40:46,857 Nevertheless though, the only calcareous differences 666 00:40:46,891 --> 00:40:49,860 between these two is that one seems to have a more, 667 00:40:51,033 --> 00:40:53,553 longer neck and this particular one 668 00:40:53,588 --> 00:40:56,660 seems to have these metal implant, and of course, 669 00:40:56,694 --> 00:40:59,386 this raised abdomen area where apparently 670 00:40:59,421 --> 00:41:02,459 it's housing three, looks like three eggs. 671 00:41:04,012 --> 00:41:05,323 Very interesting, that trait is, 672 00:41:05,358 --> 00:41:07,498 particularly what we're actually looking at is 673 00:41:07,533 --> 00:41:09,500 what looks to be the implant, 674 00:41:09,535 --> 00:41:11,916 which is across this chest area 675 00:41:11,951 --> 00:41:15,402 and also what looks to be the housing of three eggs. 676 00:41:15,437 --> 00:41:17,681 What's interesting is you can actually see 677 00:41:17,715 --> 00:41:20,200 the bone structures through the axial arch 678 00:41:20,235 --> 00:41:23,203 and are transparent somewhat, which is what you might expect 679 00:41:23,238 --> 00:41:26,137 from eggs being placed inside a body. 680 00:41:27,553 --> 00:41:30,590 You can see that the figure, the bone structure 681 00:41:30,625 --> 00:41:34,076 seems a lot more complete in this particular X-ray. 682 00:41:35,561 --> 00:41:38,322 Again, doesn't look to be housing any lungs 683 00:41:39,772 --> 00:41:42,395 and of course, if they are eggs, we have to question, 684 00:41:42,429 --> 00:41:44,673 "Would this be reptilian in nature?" 685 00:41:44,708 --> 00:41:47,469 Which seem to be according to the bone structure 686 00:41:48,574 --> 00:41:49,816 that she is in fact an adult. 687 00:41:52,198 --> 00:41:54,303 The absence of ball joints, again, 688 00:41:54,338 --> 00:41:58,653 in the lower part of pelvis, again, are obviously missing. 689 00:42:00,447 --> 00:42:02,519 It does have again the three fingers, 690 00:42:02,553 --> 00:42:05,245 which are very prominent and the three toes 691 00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:08,421 and of course again, still remains a mystery. 692 00:42:10,250 --> 00:42:12,252 Okay, we're looking at the third body here 693 00:42:12,287 --> 00:42:15,497 and of course, it's absence of the head, unfortunately. 694 00:42:15,532 --> 00:42:17,395 For what is probably the most interesting 695 00:42:17,430 --> 00:42:19,915 of all three bodies is this particular one 696 00:42:19,950 --> 00:42:23,574 in a sitting posture which gives us maybe some idea 697 00:42:23,609 --> 00:42:25,300 if this was a real creature, 698 00:42:25,334 --> 00:42:27,647 how it would have maybe moved around. 699 00:42:27,682 --> 00:42:28,545 Again, # here 700 00:42:29,615 --> 00:42:31,755 are the three fingers and three toes. 701 00:42:31,789 --> 00:42:35,517 The sitting posture, what looks to be a vertebrae. 702 00:42:35,552 --> 00:42:38,624 And what's very interesting about this 703 00:42:39,832 --> 00:42:42,731 is that there does seem to be some form of skin. 704 00:42:43,801 --> 00:42:46,735 [mysterious music] 705 00:42:50,912 --> 00:42:53,984 Also on top, we can see what looks to be 706 00:42:54,018 --> 00:42:56,883 the two side muscles holding the support of the neck, 707 00:42:56,918 --> 00:43:01,094 the neck muscles; analysis has taken place on this, 708 00:43:01,129 --> 00:43:03,994 two independent analysis confirmed, 709 00:43:04,028 --> 00:43:06,962 for one from Mexico, one from the United States, 710 00:43:06,997 --> 00:43:11,691 that this is over 1,000 years of age. 711 00:43:12,899 --> 00:43:14,763 And as you can see from that sitting posture, 712 00:43:14,798 --> 00:43:17,732 and you can see what wants to be like a vertebrae, 713 00:43:17,766 --> 00:43:19,043 and we're down, you can see, 714 00:43:19,078 --> 00:43:21,667 the very clear bone structures 715 00:43:21,701 --> 00:43:24,635 throughout it's arms, hands, legs, 716 00:43:24,670 --> 00:43:28,639 and of course feet, not too sure at this moment in time 717 00:43:28,674 --> 00:43:30,434 if this actually represents, 718 00:43:30,468 --> 00:43:35,266 if it has any visible ball joints here in its hips, 719 00:43:35,301 --> 00:43:39,098 is currently unknown, again from its sizing 720 00:43:40,478 --> 00:43:44,793 and its position, probably around about the 24 inches size, 721 00:43:44,828 --> 00:43:48,141 like the other two bodies, again a mystery. 722 00:43:52,111 --> 00:43:53,526 - [Barry] Suddenly, everything changed 723 00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:55,735 as we were introduced to Maria. 724 00:43:58,773 --> 00:44:02,086 [eerie vocalizing music] 725 00:44:19,656 --> 00:44:21,105 - So what we're actually looking at here 726 00:44:21,140 --> 00:44:24,039 is something completely in a different ballpark 727 00:44:24,074 --> 00:44:26,386 than what we've been shown earlier. 728 00:44:26,421 --> 00:44:31,391 By intents and purposes, we're looking at a body 729 00:44:32,599 --> 00:44:37,121 estimated to be 1,800 years old, I believe, 730 00:44:38,467 --> 00:44:40,677 from the analysis currently taking place. 731 00:44:42,782 --> 00:44:44,888 And in a fetal position. 732 00:44:47,097 --> 00:44:50,859 Bone structure, anatomy, legs 733 00:44:52,033 --> 00:44:53,517 look reasonably normal. 734 00:44:54,518 --> 00:44:56,865 Arms look reasonably normal 735 00:44:56,900 --> 00:45:00,179 until we come to the extremities. 736 00:45:00,213 --> 00:45:02,664 The extremities seem to show 737 00:45:04,079 --> 00:45:09,084 only three digits, three toes, no thumbs. 738 00:45:12,812 --> 00:45:14,676 Of course, these acting as balancers, 739 00:45:16,091 --> 00:45:18,438 we can see that is also, which is very interesting, 740 00:45:19,785 --> 00:45:24,790 toenails which we can see on the toes. 741 00:45:25,687 --> 00:45:26,895 We've also got dermal ridging, 742 00:45:28,414 --> 00:45:31,797 like fingerprints on the bottom of the feet, 743 00:45:33,143 --> 00:45:35,110 possibly also on the hands. 744 00:45:37,423 --> 00:45:39,114 Samples have been currently taken. 745 00:45:39,149 --> 00:45:41,668 Now this is a female was initially thought to be a male, 746 00:45:41,703 --> 00:45:44,119 referred to as Albert, or Alberta, 747 00:45:45,534 --> 00:45:48,952 but you see it is a female and now referred to as Maria. 748 00:45:50,367 --> 00:45:52,679 Estimated size around about five-foot-six. 749 00:45:54,509 --> 00:45:58,271 Currently, there's analysis taking place, 750 00:45:58,306 --> 00:46:01,585 DNA analysis taking place to ascertain 751 00:46:03,863 --> 00:46:07,073 if she fully human or not. 752 00:46:07,108 --> 00:46:08,109 What we're actually looking at here, Barry, 753 00:46:08,143 --> 00:46:10,559 is of course, the X-ray of Maria 754 00:46:10,594 --> 00:46:12,872 who we've just been examining. 755 00:46:12,907 --> 00:46:16,151 Clearly massive differences here, massive differences. 756 00:46:16,186 --> 00:46:17,912 We can clearly see the ball joints, 757 00:46:17,946 --> 00:46:22,019 which is a very human trait, obviously, in arms and legs. 758 00:46:22,054 --> 00:46:25,851 We can clearly also see the vertebrae, the backbone 759 00:46:25,885 --> 00:46:28,992 and this is the legs coming up and it's sitting 760 00:46:29,026 --> 00:46:32,581 in a bear position, in its fetal position 761 00:46:32,616 --> 00:46:35,550 and across here very faintly, you can actually see 762 00:46:35,584 --> 00:46:40,589 the fingers which you can see consists of one, two, three, 763 00:46:41,901 --> 00:46:45,905 four, possibly four sections, slightly different 764 00:46:45,940 --> 00:46:49,081 than what else we've seen here, but nevertheless though, 765 00:46:49,115 --> 00:46:51,359 extremely long, and they do look like 766 00:46:52,809 --> 00:46:55,742 connected bone as well. 767 00:46:55,777 --> 00:46:58,090 I wouldn't, I couldn't, I can't see anything here 768 00:46:58,124 --> 00:47:01,403 that leads me to believe it's been 769 00:47:01,438 --> 00:47:03,647 anatomically altered in any way, 770 00:47:05,442 --> 00:47:07,996 but of course, that's what the experts need to tell you, 771 00:47:08,031 --> 00:47:10,033 not myself, but at the end of the day, 772 00:47:10,067 --> 00:47:12,138 what is very interesting is that you can see 773 00:47:12,173 --> 00:47:15,348 how the hand is come across here, needs to be X-rayed. 774 00:47:15,383 --> 00:47:16,660 I believe further X-rays 775 00:47:16,694 --> 00:47:18,869 are going to be taking place, maybe tomorrow. 776 00:47:18,904 --> 00:47:23,805 We're looking at what looks to be human, a human body, 777 00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:27,705 but the most obvious differences being the toes, 778 00:47:27,740 --> 00:47:30,777 being the fingers, and probably the anatomy 779 00:47:30,812 --> 00:47:35,161 of the actual hand and feet because we've noted that 780 00:47:35,196 --> 00:47:38,993 it is a possibility that because the way the feet is, 781 00:47:39,027 --> 00:47:43,342 the feet, the actual way, the layout of it is, 782 00:47:43,376 --> 00:47:46,863 then it would seem that it may not have walked 783 00:47:46,897 --> 00:47:50,556 as a human being probably would, doesn't look like the same, 784 00:47:50,590 --> 00:47:52,109 would have had the same capabilities to do so, 785 00:47:52,144 --> 00:47:55,285 so his walking process may have been significantly different 786 00:47:55,319 --> 00:47:59,047 than anybody, like you or me. 787 00:47:59,082 --> 00:48:03,569 We can see that her teeth, quite relatively intact as well. 788 00:48:05,674 --> 00:48:08,160 Unsure of what age she possibly would have been 789 00:48:08,194 --> 00:48:10,817 when she'd actually died. 790 00:48:10,852 --> 00:48:14,097 You can obviously see the vertebrae here, the collarbone. 791 00:48:16,754 --> 00:48:21,759 Generally, she looks human by all accounts, 792 00:48:23,520 --> 00:48:28,525 except for one thing here, she's missing ear lobes, no ears, 793 00:48:29,698 --> 00:48:31,666 which is a trait often seen in amphibians, 794 00:48:31,700 --> 00:48:35,083 like seals and sea lions. 795 00:48:36,429 --> 00:48:37,948 As to why she has no ears is a mystery. 796 00:48:37,983 --> 00:48:42,159 She does just have a hole in either side. 797 00:48:44,334 --> 00:48:46,025 After receiving a phone call 798 00:48:46,060 --> 00:48:48,269 in the early hours of the morning to confirm 799 00:48:49,442 --> 00:48:51,893 a meeting, someone is going to pick us up 800 00:48:51,928 --> 00:48:55,345 and take us to this so-called secret location. 801 00:48:55,379 --> 00:48:58,106 And the demands that were made, it was just ridiculous, 802 00:48:58,141 --> 00:49:01,247 absolutely ridiculous, no cell phones, 803 00:49:01,282 --> 00:49:02,697 won't be allowed to film. 804 00:49:04,009 --> 00:49:07,046 I mean, I don't know. 805 00:49:07,081 --> 00:49:08,841 Did spark a lot of debate between myself and Barry, 806 00:49:08,875 --> 00:49:10,739 but we thought, "Hell," you know? 807 00:49:10,774 --> 00:49:14,536 No way we're going back halfway back round the world again 808 00:49:14,571 --> 00:49:16,400 without gaining everything we could possibly get 809 00:49:16,435 --> 00:49:18,782 whilst we're here 'cause this is what we do. 810 00:49:18,816 --> 00:49:20,991 Well, nevertheless though, we did reach the location 811 00:49:21,026 --> 00:49:22,786 and we met with a number of gentlemen. 812 00:49:22,820 --> 00:49:25,409 I think there were five of them in question. 813 00:49:25,444 --> 00:49:28,412 Because people are gonna ask why, why, why all the secrecy? 814 00:49:29,793 --> 00:49:32,071 And I don't think it's about hyping up the bodies. 815 00:49:32,106 --> 00:49:34,867 I think it's about the government because we already know 816 00:49:34,901 --> 00:49:37,766 that they're going all over this thing, absolutely. 817 00:49:37,801 --> 00:49:40,183 The police apparently have already raided a number of places 818 00:49:40,217 --> 00:49:41,908 trying to find the damn bodies. 819 00:49:41,943 --> 00:49:44,981 And of course, it's very secret as to where they be. 820 00:49:46,189 --> 00:49:48,225 They want them and they probably want the people 821 00:49:48,260 --> 00:49:50,227 are involved in is because they are probably looking about 822 00:49:50,262 --> 00:49:53,506 10-year stretch each, and that is probably the truth. 823 00:49:53,541 --> 00:49:56,406 We conducted some investigation, some research, 824 00:49:56,440 --> 00:50:00,168 and plenty of footage we were allowed to take of the bodies. 825 00:50:00,203 --> 00:50:02,343 There are certain things that we weren't allowed to show, 826 00:50:02,377 --> 00:50:05,622 weren't allowed to film, but at the end of the day, 827 00:50:05,656 --> 00:50:07,486 we managed to work with them 828 00:50:07,520 --> 00:50:11,559 and hopefully come away with something quite good. 829 00:50:11,593 --> 00:50:13,768 And he started to bring these things out 830 00:50:13,802 --> 00:50:17,323 in a sequential order of size in a sense of speaking 831 00:50:17,358 --> 00:50:19,015 from the smallest to the largest. 832 00:50:20,016 --> 00:50:22,018 And the first body came out, 833 00:50:22,052 --> 00:50:24,227 we placed it on the table sort of delicately 834 00:50:25,366 --> 00:50:27,885 and I was kinda holding back a grin, really, 835 00:50:27,920 --> 00:50:31,544 because it was clearly a fake, absolute fake. 836 00:50:31,579 --> 00:50:34,823 And it was only about 12 inches long. 837 00:50:34,858 --> 00:50:38,275 I've seen this before, he moved his head, excuse the pun, 838 00:50:38,310 --> 00:50:42,141 he made his head around about 2015, 2016 839 00:50:43,660 --> 00:50:46,214 and it had a fish's head, he's got a head of a fish. 840 00:50:47,905 --> 00:50:50,253 Clearly, with fish-type teeth. 841 00:50:51,288 --> 00:50:53,256 His body was a bit of a mixer. 842 00:50:53,290 --> 00:50:54,774 Maybe there are some bones in there, 843 00:50:54,809 --> 00:50:56,776 it's definitely like what you see in the X-rays, 844 00:50:58,019 --> 00:51:00,470 and he looked to be absolutely doctored. 845 00:51:00,504 --> 00:51:01,781 It was definitely doctored. 846 00:51:03,231 --> 00:51:05,440 Then there were three other bodies that were reeled out. 847 00:51:05,475 --> 00:51:07,960 24 inches in size this time. 848 00:51:07,994 --> 00:51:09,617 But something a bit different with these. 849 00:51:09,651 --> 00:51:13,310 These were elongated skulls. 850 00:51:14,484 --> 00:51:16,106 There was apparently from what we were told 851 00:51:16,141 --> 00:51:21,111 a male and a female and one which was undecisive, 852 00:51:22,561 --> 00:51:24,873 he was missing his head and it was in a sitting position. 853 00:51:26,323 --> 00:51:29,706 Now, how did they determine what was a female and male? 854 00:51:29,740 --> 00:51:31,397 Well apparently, there was one of them 855 00:51:31,432 --> 00:51:34,607 that seemed to have three eggs inside her, yes eggs, 856 00:51:34,642 --> 00:51:37,748 which would indicate that well, it's some type of reptilian, 857 00:51:37,783 --> 00:51:40,130 a reptile of some sort. 858 00:51:40,165 --> 00:51:41,856 For me, it's about where is the evidence? 859 00:51:41,890 --> 00:51:44,755 And I asked and apparently, surprisingly, 860 00:51:44,790 --> 00:51:48,552 no analysis have been taken on these two bodies, 861 00:51:48,587 --> 00:51:51,037 the male and the so-called female one, 862 00:51:51,072 --> 00:51:53,143 no analysis whatsoever. 863 00:51:53,178 --> 00:51:56,146 And it's also through, I was looking over the X-rays 864 00:51:57,596 --> 00:52:01,151 and the anatomy, that Barry brought up a really good theory 865 00:52:01,186 --> 00:52:04,430 that the actual skull being slightly elongated 866 00:52:04,465 --> 00:52:06,639 is very, very similar to sloth skulls 867 00:52:06,674 --> 00:52:08,779 and even some parts of the anatomy. 868 00:52:08,814 --> 00:52:11,610 And of course, they even have three claws. 869 00:52:11,644 --> 00:52:14,164 So that's a possibility, that's a strong possibility 870 00:52:14,199 --> 00:52:17,063 that they made a mutant, somebody, someone somewhere 871 00:52:17,098 --> 00:52:20,032 maybe utilized what you can get ahold of 872 00:52:20,066 --> 00:52:22,379 and then added and changed and mixed 873 00:52:22,414 --> 00:52:27,419 and basically created these models which are, 874 00:52:28,592 --> 00:52:29,800 which do actually have some bones in, 875 00:52:29,835 --> 00:52:31,043 which is interesting because obviously 876 00:52:31,077 --> 00:52:33,701 that no one showed up on an X-ray. 877 00:52:33,735 --> 00:52:35,220 The only analysis that has taken place 878 00:52:35,254 --> 00:52:38,257 is done on the third body which is missing his head. 879 00:52:38,292 --> 00:52:40,086 And interestingly, this is an interesting point, 880 00:52:40,121 --> 00:52:44,021 it did seem to have skin on its back, I can confirm that. 881 00:52:44,056 --> 00:52:46,023 It did seem to have some type of skin. 882 00:52:46,058 --> 00:52:48,094 As to what that skin is or what it could be, 883 00:52:48,129 --> 00:52:50,235 I have no idea, but it did seem to have skin. 884 00:52:50,925 --> 00:52:52,306 It would seem to be some protruding maybe, 885 00:52:52,340 --> 00:52:54,618 has as well maybe or ridges or something. 886 00:52:54,653 --> 00:52:56,620 It was really unusual. 887 00:52:56,655 --> 00:52:58,829 We're currently waiting on the DNA to come back 888 00:52:58,864 --> 00:53:01,418 to confirm if this is, thing is real or not. 889 00:53:02,557 --> 00:53:04,697 So those three bodies, you know? 890 00:53:06,320 --> 00:53:08,425 And of course, let me come to the real big bit, 891 00:53:08,460 --> 00:53:10,772 the real crunch, the crunch is how they pulled out this 892 00:53:11,946 --> 00:53:16,744 big box and opened the lid and, hey presto! 893 00:53:17,917 --> 00:53:20,057 There she was in all her glory, Maria. 894 00:53:20,092 --> 00:53:21,887 You know, the one that we've been seeing on the Internet. 895 00:53:21,921 --> 00:53:24,890 And I was like, "Whoa," you know? 896 00:53:24,924 --> 00:53:26,098 Seemed we both were, myself and Barry, 897 00:53:26,132 --> 00:53:27,582 a bit blown away, to be honest, 898 00:53:27,617 --> 00:53:30,896 because this is something, a completely different ballpark, 899 00:53:30,930 --> 00:53:33,278 absolute completely different ballpark. 900 00:53:33,312 --> 00:53:36,419 This a start, there's absolutely no shadow of doubt 901 00:53:36,453 --> 00:53:38,697 that we are dealing with a body here, 902 00:53:38,731 --> 00:53:42,010 and the analysis being, apparently two independent analysis, 903 00:53:42,045 --> 00:53:44,461 two currently images taking place, 904 00:53:44,496 --> 00:53:47,775 shows around about maybe, I think, as far as we know, 905 00:53:47,809 --> 00:53:51,019 1,800 years old, the body, 906 00:53:51,054 --> 00:53:52,814 and of course we didn't even think straight, 907 00:53:52,849 --> 00:53:55,023 wait, it's got three fingers and three toes, 908 00:53:55,058 --> 00:53:56,922 and we'll just ignore that this is, you know, 909 00:53:56,956 --> 00:53:58,164 how often do you get, 910 00:53:58,199 --> 00:54:00,166 that's not an everyday occurrence, is it? 911 00:54:01,271 --> 00:54:04,930 And the first thing I thought was, 912 00:54:04,964 --> 00:54:06,966 "It does have an elongated skull." 913 00:54:07,001 --> 00:54:08,485 Maria does have an elongated skull. 914 00:54:08,520 --> 00:54:13,007 But not to the point where there's extra brain mass. 915 00:54:14,422 --> 00:54:18,840 It could be simply that is, is representation of boarding, 916 00:54:18,875 --> 00:54:22,188 which was a tradition that many cultures did 917 00:54:22,223 --> 00:54:23,673 from an early age. 918 00:54:23,707 --> 00:54:26,123 And of course, we come to the hands and the feet. 919 00:54:26,158 --> 00:54:30,196 Now, I asked the question about the analysis 920 00:54:30,231 --> 00:54:31,957 because apparently analysis been taking place 921 00:54:31,991 --> 00:54:34,994 and we do know the parts where analysis taking place from, 922 00:54:35,029 --> 00:54:38,135 but for me, if I was going in there, 923 00:54:38,170 --> 00:54:40,966 the first thing I'd do is look at what not, 924 00:54:41,000 --> 00:54:42,657 what does it not make it human? 925 00:54:42,692 --> 00:54:45,315 What is it stands out and makes it unusual, 926 00:54:45,350 --> 00:54:46,799 and that is, is it's hands and feet. 927 00:54:46,834 --> 00:54:49,215 So that is the first place I'd be taking samples from. 928 00:54:49,250 --> 00:54:50,941 It's obvious, you take samples 929 00:54:50,976 --> 00:54:53,461 from the locations in question. 930 00:54:53,496 --> 00:54:55,843 If you're going to take samples from under the arm, 931 00:54:55,877 --> 00:54:58,639 around the back, what are we going to come back with? 932 00:54:58,673 --> 00:55:01,262 Well, we're probably gonna come back with a body 933 00:55:01,297 --> 00:55:04,576 of eight, you know, 1,800 years old, you know? 934 00:55:05,715 --> 00:55:07,233 And it's only gonna give us the information 935 00:55:07,268 --> 00:55:08,959 that we currently already know, to be honest with you. 936 00:55:08,994 --> 00:55:10,789 We need to focus on the hands and feet. 937 00:55:10,823 --> 00:55:13,516 And I was actually surprised, 'cause I asked the question. 938 00:55:13,550 --> 00:55:16,070 "Have samples been taken on the hands and feet?" 939 00:55:16,104 --> 00:55:17,623 And the reply was, "No." 940 00:55:18,797 --> 00:55:21,662 Why, why would you not take samples 941 00:55:21,696 --> 00:55:24,216 from the hands and the feet, that's the first thing I'd do, 942 00:55:24,250 --> 00:55:26,356 going in there, I want to know. 943 00:55:26,391 --> 00:55:28,289 I want to know if these hands and these feet, 944 00:55:28,324 --> 00:55:32,397 these toes and fingers belong to that body. 945 00:55:33,881 --> 00:55:35,227 - [Pilot] Flight manager. [upbeat vocalizing music] 946 00:55:35,261 --> 00:55:37,402 [speaking in foreign language] 947 00:55:37,436 --> 00:55:39,990 Thank you, we hope there's other trips with us. 948 00:55:40,025 --> 00:55:44,029 [speaking in foreign language] 949 00:55:48,516 --> 00:55:51,139 [upbeat music] 950 00:56:15,681 --> 00:56:18,166 - We're here in Lima, we've had to take a flight down. 951 00:56:18,201 --> 00:56:20,859 And that's because we want to, we're here to attend 952 00:56:20,893 --> 00:56:23,206 the first international press release, 953 00:56:23,240 --> 00:56:25,795 which is going to be taking place very shortly. 954 00:56:25,829 --> 00:56:27,969 But whilst we were here, we wanted to take the opportunity 955 00:56:28,004 --> 00:56:29,937 to be able to talk to somebody, 956 00:56:29,971 --> 00:56:33,423 a representative of the Ministry of Tourism 957 00:56:33,458 --> 00:56:35,218 and we've got some very interesting facts 958 00:56:35,252 --> 00:56:38,117 when we conducted an interview last night. 959 00:56:38,152 --> 00:56:41,983 Some of the information is quite incredible. 960 00:56:42,018 --> 00:56:44,365 It would seem that these, the government are struggling, 961 00:56:44,400 --> 00:56:47,437 absolutely struggling to contain this problem 962 00:56:47,472 --> 00:56:50,923 about people who hub tomb raiders, pillagers, 963 00:56:50,958 --> 00:56:52,269 you know, whatever they're doing to try 964 00:56:52,304 --> 00:56:53,823 and to get their hold of these artifacts 965 00:56:53,857 --> 00:56:58,103 that seem to be sold and are being sold across the world 966 00:56:58,137 --> 00:57:00,416 by some form of black market. 967 00:57:00,450 --> 00:57:03,246 Lenny, I believe you work for the Ministry of Tourism 968 00:57:03,280 --> 00:57:07,112 here in Peru and you were actually commissioned 969 00:57:07,146 --> 00:57:10,978 to look into the shady world of the black market. 970 00:57:11,012 --> 00:57:13,532 Can I ask you, how damaging is the black market 971 00:57:13,567 --> 00:57:16,466 for the archaeological artifacts of Peru? 972 00:57:17,985 --> 00:57:22,610 - Well, Peru's a country so well-known because of our 973 00:57:23,956 --> 00:57:27,788 heritage, cultural and natural heritage, 974 00:57:27,822 --> 00:57:32,620 and so for us, it's quite important to conserve all of it. 975 00:57:33,966 --> 00:57:37,970 And one of our biggest problems is this black market. 976 00:57:38,005 --> 00:57:40,973 - The black market is one of the biggest problems. 977 00:57:41,008 --> 00:57:43,148 Is there any way to, is there any way 978 00:57:43,182 --> 00:57:46,116 to resolve that problem or is it still happening today? 979 00:57:46,151 --> 00:57:48,843 - This is really a very complex problem, situation, 980 00:57:48,878 --> 00:57:52,053 not only here, also in other countries 981 00:57:53,123 --> 00:57:55,712 with a rich heritage like ours. 982 00:57:57,473 --> 00:57:59,336 I think on a personal level 983 00:57:59,371 --> 00:58:04,307 that includes not only the laws, but also to know the laws. 984 00:58:05,688 --> 00:58:08,656 - So we're dealing something which is international. 985 00:58:08,691 --> 00:58:13,350 - This is a very big chain at international level 986 00:58:13,385 --> 00:58:15,870 because there is still demand. 987 00:58:17,562 --> 00:58:20,185 I consider that all the time 988 00:58:20,219 --> 00:58:22,636 that this demand will continues. 989 00:58:22,670 --> 00:58:26,053 Paying so much, huge amounts of money, 990 00:58:26,087 --> 00:58:27,882 it will exist, this offer, 991 00:58:27,917 --> 00:58:31,783 this supply of this richness. - Right. 992 00:58:31,817 --> 00:58:34,199 And it's still happening today. 993 00:58:34,233 --> 00:58:37,513 - Yes, unfortunately yes, unfortunately 994 00:58:38,652 --> 00:58:41,275 because of the, from time to time, 995 00:58:42,483 --> 00:58:46,349 we discover these pieces all around the world 996 00:58:46,383 --> 00:58:49,317 and our government is still working for recovering them. 997 00:58:50,249 --> 00:58:52,769 - Right. - After a great effort. 998 00:58:52,804 --> 00:58:54,875 - Yeah. - That is not easy. 999 00:58:54,909 --> 00:58:58,326 But unfortunately, they go all across our borders 1000 00:58:58,361 --> 00:58:59,673 boundaries now. - Right. 1001 00:58:59,707 --> 00:59:02,158 So it's extremely difficult. - Yes, to control. 1002 00:59:02,192 --> 00:59:03,642 - To control. 1003 00:59:03,677 --> 00:59:06,749 Now, what's interesting is also whilst we're here, 1004 00:59:06,783 --> 00:59:09,475 we've talking to a number of people out on the street 1005 00:59:09,510 --> 00:59:11,685 and they're all talking about the same thing. 1006 00:59:11,719 --> 00:59:14,239 They haven't heard anything about this press conference 1007 00:59:14,273 --> 00:59:16,724 which is taking place right under their noses, 1008 00:59:16,759 --> 00:59:18,174 nobody seems to know anything. 1009 00:59:18,208 --> 00:59:21,453 That's how good the government have been at suppressing 1010 00:59:21,487 --> 00:59:22,937 the amount of information getting out there 1011 00:59:22,972 --> 00:59:24,490 about today's event. 1012 00:59:24,525 --> 00:59:27,701 Also, what we did find is that about a month ago, 1013 00:59:27,735 --> 00:59:30,324 there was a lot of information being put out and circulated, 1014 00:59:30,358 --> 00:59:33,948 discrediting, discrediting the finds, the discoveries. 1015 00:59:33,983 --> 00:59:36,433 And that's fine, we know, we could understand that 1016 00:59:36,468 --> 00:59:38,815 and we understand the reasons why it might be taking place 1017 00:59:38,850 --> 00:59:40,748 because they do want to suppress this, 1018 00:59:40,783 --> 00:59:44,269 that these things are, how many artifacts been found, 1019 00:59:44,303 --> 00:59:47,652 stolen, shipped abroad to other countries, 1020 00:59:47,686 --> 00:59:51,138 and of course, they're losing the history, 1021 00:59:51,172 --> 00:59:53,589 they're losing their Peruvian history, these artifacts 1022 00:59:53,623 --> 00:59:55,936 are going all over the place and do want to suppress that 1023 00:59:55,970 --> 00:59:57,523 and the only way to really do that 1024 00:59:57,558 --> 01:00:00,457 is to just basically call it's fake. 1025 01:00:00,492 --> 01:00:03,668 However, what's interesting is that's generally, 1026 01:00:03,702 --> 01:00:06,463 that was a month ago, it's all gone quiet now. 1027 01:00:06,498 --> 01:00:08,189 This is all happening under the people's noses. 1028 01:00:08,224 --> 01:00:09,639 They don't even know. 1029 01:00:09,674 --> 01:00:11,537 We've even talked to a number of staff at the hotel 1030 01:00:11,572 --> 01:00:13,056 and even those were like, "What? 1031 01:00:13,091 --> 01:00:14,782 "What press announcement?" 1032 01:00:14,817 --> 01:00:17,026 It's just incredible, we don't see, 1033 01:00:17,060 --> 01:00:19,960 people are here already are starting to just turn up 1034 01:00:19,994 --> 01:00:23,860 and you know, in the TRO, so it's a real big event. 1035 01:00:23,895 --> 01:00:25,103 We've got to try and get to 1036 01:00:25,137 --> 01:00:26,449 the crunch of all this information 1037 01:00:26,483 --> 01:00:28,451 because we're really having to move fast 1038 01:00:28,485 --> 01:00:30,626 'cause things are developing so, so fast at this moment. 1039 01:00:30,660 --> 01:00:33,145 We're just trying to keep on our toes. 1040 01:00:34,491 --> 01:00:36,770 We sensed at lunchtime today 1041 01:00:36,804 --> 01:00:39,393 that something wasn't quite right. 1042 01:00:39,427 --> 01:00:43,500 And by the time we got back from lunch, it had arrived. 1043 01:00:43,535 --> 01:00:45,641 It was absolute chaos. 1044 01:00:45,675 --> 01:00:48,264 Peruvian government event is a press announcement. 1045 01:00:48,298 --> 01:00:51,577 So we had to really talk to the head guy who'd arranged this 1046 01:00:51,612 --> 01:00:54,580 which is kind of on our side, he said, "No problem. 1047 01:00:54,615 --> 01:00:56,582 "I'll send three emails over to the hotel 1048 01:00:56,617 --> 01:00:58,136 "informing them that your guy, 1049 01:00:58,170 --> 01:01:01,035 "you're the guys that are gonna be filming on our behalf." 1050 01:01:01,070 --> 01:01:04,660 Jaime Maussan has been the face of this press conference, 1051 01:01:04,694 --> 01:01:07,593 but he also has been having his own problems. 1052 01:01:07,628 --> 01:01:09,147 And this is what he had to say. 1053 01:01:11,252 --> 01:01:13,116 Thank you for talking with us, Jaime. 1054 01:01:13,151 --> 01:01:17,327 I wanted to ask you, you've been at the front of this, 1055 01:01:17,362 --> 01:01:19,778 the forefront, the front runner. 1056 01:01:19,813 --> 01:01:23,609 You're the face of this discovery, how's it been for you? 1057 01:01:23,644 --> 01:01:26,474 - I think the person who deserves this credit 1058 01:01:26,509 --> 01:01:30,513 is Thierry Jamin, the French who got the bodies, 1059 01:01:30,547 --> 01:01:33,723 who collected everything, who has had the courage 1060 01:01:33,758 --> 01:01:36,899 to confront anything to take the risk. 1061 01:01:36,933 --> 01:01:40,212 As investigator, probably I helped to really 1062 01:01:41,558 --> 01:01:46,563 make this news, these findings go through 1063 01:01:47,323 --> 01:01:49,532 to be known by the world 1064 01:01:49,566 --> 01:01:53,398 and to understand that this is something real extraordinary 1065 01:01:53,432 --> 01:01:55,952 and for me has been probably one of the most 1066 01:01:55,987 --> 01:01:58,886 important investigations of my life. 1067 01:01:58,921 --> 01:02:00,577 - [Steve] We understand samples 1068 01:02:00,612 --> 01:02:04,029 that you've taken with the team amongst other people, 1069 01:02:04,064 --> 01:02:05,755 but what is your personal opinion? 1070 01:02:05,790 --> 01:02:08,102 What do you think this mummy is? 1071 01:02:08,137 --> 01:02:10,691 - I think this mummy is something else. 1072 01:02:10,726 --> 01:02:14,764 I don't know if it came from a different planet or not, 1073 01:02:14,799 --> 01:02:19,804 but it doesn't look human, all the features you can see 1074 01:02:21,426 --> 01:02:25,844 are really something extraordinary, like the big fingers 1075 01:02:27,639 --> 01:02:31,781 in the hands with the five phalanges, 1076 01:02:31,816 --> 01:02:36,234 the fingers in the foot with four phalanges 1077 01:02:36,268 --> 01:02:39,685 are something that are not comparable 1078 01:02:39,720 --> 01:02:41,446 to those of human beings. 1079 01:02:41,480 --> 01:02:46,071 Also the head, if you see the head, is very big. 1080 01:02:46,106 --> 01:02:50,731 If you see the bones in the arm, they are really separated, 1081 01:02:50,766 --> 01:02:54,770 something very different that, from our own. 1082 01:02:54,804 --> 01:02:58,774 And there are measures, so many more differences 1083 01:02:58,808 --> 01:03:01,742 from human beings, then this is not human. 1084 01:03:01,777 --> 01:03:05,815 What is it, I don't know; where it came from, I don't know. 1085 01:03:05,850 --> 01:03:07,403 We'll find out. 1086 01:03:08,853 --> 01:03:11,441 - [Steve] There's been a lot of international interest 1087 01:03:11,476 --> 01:03:14,824 in regards this find, but surprisingly and remarkably, 1088 01:03:14,859 --> 01:03:17,620 it's been very quiet here in Peru. 1089 01:03:17,654 --> 01:03:20,243 We believe the government have been trying to pressure 1090 01:03:20,278 --> 01:03:22,245 maybe keeping this quiet. 1091 01:03:24,006 --> 01:03:26,732 You went to the Ministry of Culture today. 1092 01:03:26,767 --> 01:03:28,769 Could you say anything about how that meeting went? 1093 01:03:28,804 --> 01:03:32,531 - No no, I send a letter and I ask for this meeting 1094 01:03:32,566 --> 01:03:34,982 because we wanted to present them 1095 01:03:35,017 --> 01:03:38,434 before the press conference all the information 1096 01:03:38,468 --> 01:03:42,024 we had collected, all the evidences, 1097 01:03:42,058 --> 01:03:45,096 all the scientists' analysis, 1098 01:03:46,200 --> 01:03:47,408 and we couldn't do it. 1099 01:03:47,443 --> 01:03:49,859 They said that we should send an email 1100 01:03:49,894 --> 01:03:52,862 and after a while they will answer to us, 1101 01:03:52,897 --> 01:03:55,900 and I said, "It's important you do it very fast 1102 01:03:55,934 --> 01:03:58,730 "because the bodies are in danger. 1103 01:03:58,764 --> 01:04:02,458 "The bodies are really being hurt by being outside. 1104 01:04:02,492 --> 01:04:04,115 "They need to be preserved." 1105 01:04:05,323 --> 01:04:08,153 They say, "Yeah, sure we will," but that was all. 1106 01:04:08,188 --> 01:04:10,604 I know that the attitude of the government, 1107 01:04:10,638 --> 01:04:14,608 the Ministry of Culture is just to reject this finding. 1108 01:04:14,642 --> 01:04:16,886 This is really disturbing, 1109 01:04:16,921 --> 01:04:20,821 because the real victim here is the truth. 1110 01:04:20,856 --> 01:04:24,721 And I think that the truth should go to the world, 1111 01:04:24,756 --> 01:04:27,000 the people in, around the world 1112 01:04:27,034 --> 01:04:29,278 deserves the truth about this. 1113 01:04:29,312 --> 01:04:31,487 - [Steve] Absolutely, I mean, we believe, 1114 01:04:31,521 --> 01:04:32,902 we've been led to believe that 1115 01:04:32,937 --> 01:04:34,593 what's going to be discussed tomorrow 1116 01:04:34,628 --> 01:04:38,287 at the first international press announcement, 1117 01:04:38,321 --> 01:04:42,912 that the information could potentially just, 1118 01:04:42,947 --> 01:04:44,327 not just change the planet, 1119 01:04:44,362 --> 01:04:46,847 but literally the whole universe. 1120 01:04:46,882 --> 01:04:49,746 I mean, at the end of the day, 1121 01:04:49,781 --> 01:04:51,817 the information has got to come out. 1122 01:04:51,852 --> 01:04:55,028 - Yeah, that's the plan, to present this to the world 1123 01:04:55,062 --> 01:04:59,032 and the world will decide how good is this investigation, 1124 01:04:59,066 --> 01:05:03,553 how good the evidences are and they're trying to stop this 1125 01:05:03,588 --> 01:05:06,971 because they are fearful that this could be truth. 1126 01:05:07,005 --> 01:05:08,524 They will have to rewritten 1127 01:05:10,043 --> 01:05:14,668 the books of history, everything we know should change 1128 01:05:14,702 --> 01:05:16,773 or could change, I don't know. 1129 01:05:16,808 --> 01:05:20,501 And it seems that it's too much for many, many people 1130 01:05:20,536 --> 01:05:23,366 and that is why, even without the evidence, 1131 01:05:23,401 --> 01:05:25,161 even without the bodies, 1132 01:05:25,196 --> 01:05:29,372 even without looking closely to this discovery, 1133 01:05:29,407 --> 01:05:31,788 they are saying that this is not true, 1134 01:05:31,823 --> 01:05:33,790 couldn't be true, that is all. 1135 01:05:33,825 --> 01:05:35,171 - [Steve] If it is successful tomorrow, 1136 01:05:35,206 --> 01:05:37,794 and we do manage to get this information out 1137 01:05:38,726 --> 01:05:40,452 as best as we possibly can, 1138 01:05:40,487 --> 01:05:42,938 do you think this is going to help the Inkari Institute 1139 01:05:42,972 --> 01:05:44,940 to carry on their research? 1140 01:05:44,974 --> 01:05:47,252 - Oh yeah, the attention of the world, 1141 01:05:47,287 --> 01:05:49,530 if we can convince that we are honest, 1142 01:05:49,565 --> 01:05:51,015 if we can convince them that 1143 01:05:51,049 --> 01:05:53,051 there is no other interest than the truth, 1144 01:05:53,086 --> 01:05:57,090 if we can convince the world that the evidences are real, 1145 01:05:57,124 --> 01:06:00,541 then everything should change and the Inkari Institute 1146 01:06:00,576 --> 01:06:04,752 should attract all the attention from the world 1147 01:06:04,787 --> 01:06:06,927 and that is why I think 1148 01:06:08,308 --> 01:06:11,449 tomorrow we will decide or they will decide 1149 01:06:11,483 --> 01:06:14,970 or everybody will decide what is the future of humanity 1150 01:06:15,004 --> 01:06:18,904 because it is not just this discovery. 1151 01:06:18,939 --> 01:06:23,944 If we cannot prove that these bodies are something else, 1152 01:06:25,049 --> 01:06:28,949 then we won't be able to prove it ever. 1153 01:06:28,984 --> 01:06:32,711 This physical evidence for the first time 1154 01:06:32,746 --> 01:06:35,369 is in the hands of society 1155 01:06:35,404 --> 01:06:37,820 and they want to take it away from us. 1156 01:06:37,854 --> 01:06:39,649 Don't you realize that? 1157 01:06:39,684 --> 01:06:43,653 Don't you realize what is in play here tomorrow? 1158 01:06:43,688 --> 01:06:48,279 I hope people will understand and will support this 1159 01:06:49,452 --> 01:06:52,835 because the evidences speak by themselves. 1160 01:06:52,869 --> 01:06:54,906 You will hear the scientists. 1161 01:06:54,940 --> 01:06:59,014 You will hear everybody that is around here, 1162 01:06:59,048 --> 01:07:02,707 this investigation, you will see the documents 1163 01:07:04,122 --> 01:07:08,230 of the investigation with carbon-14, with the DNA. 1164 01:07:08,264 --> 01:07:12,027 You will find out how close we are 1165 01:07:12,061 --> 01:07:16,686 to really understand that things are not 1166 01:07:16,721 --> 01:07:20,000 like we have thought they were in the past. 1167 01:07:20,035 --> 01:07:21,657 This is a different world 1168 01:07:21,691 --> 01:07:24,211 and the reality's very, very different 1169 01:07:24,246 --> 01:07:25,902 than what we thought. 1170 01:07:25,937 --> 01:07:29,009 - [Steve] I think the timing tonight to be very coincidental 1171 01:07:29,044 --> 01:07:31,356 for the government and a lot of scientists 1172 01:07:31,391 --> 01:07:34,118 to come out tonight just prior to the event tomorrow 1173 01:07:34,152 --> 01:07:37,776 to try and put their story forward and say it's all fake. 1174 01:07:37,811 --> 01:07:41,297 But how can they do that if they've not seen or examined? 1175 01:07:41,332 --> 01:07:42,402 How can they do that? 1176 01:07:42,436 --> 01:07:45,336 - Because the scientists in Peru 1177 01:07:45,370 --> 01:07:48,511 and probably around the world are very fearful. 1178 01:07:48,546 --> 01:07:52,998 They organized an event today, just to declare 1179 01:07:53,033 --> 01:07:57,106 that our findings are a hoax, they are a fraud. 1180 01:07:57,141 --> 01:08:00,005 They haven't seen them, they don't have the body, 1181 01:08:00,040 --> 01:08:03,285 they don't have the X-rays, they don't have the cat skulls, 1182 01:08:03,319 --> 01:08:06,046 they don't have anything, and besides that, 1183 01:08:06,081 --> 01:08:08,773 they have not presented anything. 1184 01:08:09,705 --> 01:08:11,983 There is not one single evidence, 1185 01:08:12,017 --> 01:08:16,746 one single proof that backs their words. 1186 01:08:16,781 --> 01:08:19,853 This is amazing, I cannot believe what is happening here. 1187 01:08:19,887 --> 01:08:21,786 I cannot believe it people even 1188 01:08:22,718 --> 01:08:25,134 think or listen to these people. 1189 01:08:25,169 --> 01:08:28,448 For example, a taxidermist the other, they saying that, 1190 01:08:28,482 --> 01:08:30,726 "Oh, there is a mafia in Peru 1191 01:08:30,760 --> 01:08:33,936 "that they are creating this kind of hoaxes." 1192 01:08:33,970 --> 01:08:36,870 And because you came with Gaia and so on, 1193 01:08:36,904 --> 01:08:40,908 then they made this mummy for you. 1194 01:08:40,943 --> 01:08:45,948 Are we so stupid, are we so gullible 1195 01:08:47,294 --> 01:08:49,917 that we will accept anything they give to us? 1196 01:08:49,952 --> 01:08:54,577 Absolutely not, before we say anything, we investigate it 1197 01:08:54,612 --> 01:08:56,648 and we were convinced that this is real, 1198 01:08:56,683 --> 01:08:59,272 otherwise we wouldn't have presented. 1199 01:08:59,306 --> 01:09:03,276 - What the government are doing is that they're discrediting 1200 01:09:03,310 --> 01:09:05,795 any of these discoveries that have been found. 1201 01:09:05,830 --> 01:09:08,591 And they're doing this without ever 1202 01:09:08,626 --> 01:09:11,974 laying a single finger on any of the bodies. 1203 01:09:14,701 --> 01:09:16,841 - [Barry] Meanwhile, members of the scientific 1204 01:09:16,875 --> 01:09:19,671 community within Peru banded together 1205 01:09:19,706 --> 01:09:21,363 and this is what they had to say. 1206 01:09:24,400 --> 01:09:26,816 "In the last few months, the alleged discovery 1207 01:09:26,851 --> 01:09:29,681 "of extraterrestrial mummies in our country 1208 01:09:29,716 --> 01:09:32,097 "has been publicized through an irresponsible 1209 01:09:32,132 --> 01:09:34,928 "organized disinformation campaign. 1210 01:09:34,962 --> 01:09:37,793 "Testimonies and published images of this case 1211 01:09:37,827 --> 01:09:41,176 "allow to assert that these findings correspond 1212 01:09:41,210 --> 01:09:44,834 "undoubtedly to pre-Columbian human remains, 1213 01:09:44,869 --> 01:09:46,974 "cultural patrimony of the nation, 1214 01:09:48,079 --> 01:09:51,013 "maliciously manipulated and even mutilated 1215 01:09:51,047 --> 01:09:56,052 "to obtain an ad-hoc appearance for commercial exploitation. 1216 01:09:57,226 --> 01:09:59,228 "Moreover, the exclusion of the entire related 1217 01:09:59,263 --> 01:10:02,542 "archaeological context is absolutely 1218 01:10:02,576 --> 01:10:05,234 "contrary to the scientific investigation 1219 01:10:05,269 --> 01:10:07,719 "of this kind of cultural finds. 1220 01:10:07,754 --> 01:10:09,031 "It is upon our authorities 1221 01:10:09,065 --> 01:10:11,482 "to make the corresponding accusations, 1222 01:10:11,516 --> 01:10:13,311 "since this production has numerous 1223 01:10:13,346 --> 01:10:15,348 "national and international norms 1224 01:10:15,382 --> 01:10:19,006 "that watch for the defense of cultural heritage. 1225 01:10:19,041 --> 01:10:21,630 "We hope these same authorities will seek the protection 1226 01:10:21,664 --> 01:10:24,391 "and correct investigation of these remains 1227 01:10:24,426 --> 01:10:28,257 "and their place of origin in order to stop looting 1228 01:10:28,292 --> 01:10:31,156 "and trafficking of human remains. 1229 01:10:31,191 --> 01:10:34,470 "We also expect exemplary sanctions 1230 01:10:34,505 --> 01:10:38,923 "for those responsible of this depredation of heritage 1231 01:10:38,957 --> 01:10:42,029 "that is of all Peruvians 1232 01:10:42,064 --> 01:10:44,929 "and humanity as a whole. 1233 01:10:44,963 --> 01:10:48,933 "Finally, the criminal abuse of corpses for petty ends 1234 01:10:48,967 --> 01:10:52,247 "violates human dignity in a profound way, 1235 01:10:52,281 --> 01:10:55,353 "thus exploitation of pre-Columbian mummies 1236 01:10:55,388 --> 01:10:57,252 "carried out by this organization 1237 01:10:57,286 --> 01:11:00,876 "attacks and particularly offends the Andean culture, 1238 01:11:00,910 --> 01:11:02,981 "implying that its achievements were due 1239 01:11:03,016 --> 01:11:04,949 "to an illegal alien aid. 1240 01:11:04,983 --> 01:11:07,262 "We offer our best offices to collaborate 1241 01:11:07,296 --> 01:11:10,299 "with the authorities to demonstrate our statements 1242 01:11:10,334 --> 01:11:13,095 "in the corresponding instances. 1243 01:11:13,129 --> 01:11:15,649 "We also offer to participate in activities 1244 01:11:15,684 --> 01:11:17,686 "that would defend our patrimony 1245 01:11:17,720 --> 01:11:19,343 "and help educate the public 1246 01:11:19,377 --> 01:11:22,242 "about our ancestors and their legacy. 1247 01:11:23,208 --> 01:11:26,488 "Lima, 10th of July 2017. 1248 01:11:28,731 --> 01:11:31,355 - After working through some of the problems today, 1249 01:11:31,389 --> 01:11:34,254 we managed to catch up with Dr. Edson Vivanco, 1250 01:11:34,289 --> 01:11:37,395 a skeletal specialist, and he was more than happy to answer 1251 01:11:37,430 --> 01:11:39,294 a few of our questions. 1252 01:17:29,057 --> 01:17:32,474 - Dr. Jose Benitez, a forensics specialist, 1253 01:17:32,508 --> 01:17:34,683 had his own descriptive interpretation. 1254 01:17:34,718 --> 01:17:36,271 In your professional opinion, 1255 01:17:36,305 --> 01:17:39,688 have you found any unusualities, anything strange? 1256 01:20:00,001 --> 01:20:02,210 - [Steve] Wonderful, just one last question. 1257 01:20:02,244 --> 01:20:04,522 How important is it for this information 1258 01:20:04,557 --> 01:20:07,594 to get out with the announcement tomorrow? 1259 01:20:45,978 --> 01:20:47,255 - We're here at the press conference, 1260 01:20:47,289 --> 01:20:48,773 the international press conference, 1261 01:20:48,808 --> 01:20:51,673 the very first one has taken place in Lima, Peru. 1262 01:20:51,707 --> 01:20:54,883 [attendees chattering] 1263 01:21:05,618 --> 01:21:08,863 [attendees applauding] 1264 01:21:25,707 --> 01:21:28,917 [attendees applauding] 1265 01:29:49,659 --> 01:29:51,799 - And what we've had to actually digest 1266 01:29:51,833 --> 01:29:53,766 in this presentation that's just taken place, 1267 01:29:53,801 --> 01:29:55,803 I mean, it's quite a long one and a lot of questions 1268 01:29:55,837 --> 01:29:58,978 and a lot of material, literally an overload of material, 1269 01:29:59,013 --> 01:30:02,016 and there was some very interesting things regarding 1270 01:30:03,811 --> 01:30:08,022 the anatomical report, now this particular report, 1271 01:30:08,056 --> 01:30:12,336 it features, we first, when we thought looking at Maria, 1272 01:30:12,371 --> 01:30:15,719 that she only had one, two anomalies. 1273 01:30:15,754 --> 01:30:17,997 Okay, her hands, her feet, 1274 01:30:18,032 --> 01:30:20,483 maybe a slightly elongated head, 1275 01:30:21,656 --> 01:30:23,175 no ears, and that was pretty much it. 1276 01:30:23,209 --> 01:30:25,142 But no, no, ha ha ha, far from it. 1277 01:30:25,177 --> 01:30:28,629 Apparently this anatomical report features 1278 01:30:28,663 --> 01:30:31,045 that one, two, three, four, five, it just keeps going, 1279 01:30:31,079 --> 01:30:32,495 six, seven, eight, nine, 10 1280 01:30:32,529 --> 01:30:36,015 and the list goes on of these anomalies in the body, 1281 01:30:36,050 --> 01:30:38,708 things that you wouldn't find in a human body. 1282 01:30:38,742 --> 01:30:43,126 The shaping of the bones, minor little details, 1283 01:30:44,507 --> 01:30:48,407 far too many that I can explain, I can't explain that. 1284 01:30:48,442 --> 01:30:52,376 And she's an absolute wondrous work of art, you know? 1285 01:30:52,411 --> 01:30:56,380 Which she should be on display somewhere, you know? 1286 01:30:56,415 --> 01:30:59,556 Or, she's real, one of the two. 1287 01:30:59,591 --> 01:31:01,938 I wouldn't want to, I want to want to call it. 1288 01:31:01,972 --> 01:31:04,768 And of course, not just that. 1289 01:31:04,803 --> 01:31:07,840 Now there's a big thing in regarding the, 1290 01:31:07,875 --> 01:31:10,325 this powder, this white powder. 1291 01:31:10,360 --> 01:31:13,156 It's been mentioned many times over the Internet 1292 01:31:13,190 --> 01:31:16,780 since its release over social media 1293 01:31:16,815 --> 01:31:18,989 that people think it's plaster. 1294 01:31:19,024 --> 01:31:22,510 It's plaster, it's fake, it's plaster. 1295 01:31:22,545 --> 01:31:23,925 Well, we've got news, guys. 1296 01:31:25,099 --> 01:31:26,963 The news is out, it's not plaster. 1297 01:31:28,136 --> 01:31:30,863 In fact, we actually know what its name is 1298 01:31:30,898 --> 01:31:34,729 and it is, and it's also purposely apparently 1299 01:31:34,764 --> 01:31:36,524 put on the body as a preservative. 1300 01:31:38,422 --> 01:31:41,460 It kills bacteria, keeps things in a dry, 1301 01:31:41,495 --> 01:31:43,600 in a dry conditions, keep things perfect 1302 01:31:43,635 --> 01:31:46,154 for a very, very long time. 1303 01:31:46,189 --> 01:31:48,847 Exactly what we're actually seeing in Maria. 1304 01:31:48,881 --> 01:31:52,609 And apart from that, there's also more information 1305 01:31:52,644 --> 01:31:56,613 regarding the, from a biologist that was there as well. 1306 01:31:58,097 --> 01:32:00,479 Their report came forward and that was really interesting. 1307 01:32:00,514 --> 01:32:03,413 Of course, the downside of it is today, 1308 01:32:03,447 --> 01:32:07,141 is that they've kind of come out half-guns. 1309 01:32:07,175 --> 01:32:10,558 What they've done is, they've gone under a press conference, 1310 01:32:10,593 --> 01:32:13,147 the first international press conference of all 1311 01:32:14,010 --> 01:32:16,599 in the capital of Peru 1312 01:32:16,633 --> 01:32:19,325 and they've not brought all the guns with them. 1313 01:32:19,360 --> 01:32:21,431 In fact, they left the cannons at home. 1314 01:32:21,465 --> 01:32:25,780 There is not any information from the DNA yet. 1315 01:32:25,815 --> 01:32:27,575 It's still out there, it's still being conducted. 1316 01:32:27,610 --> 01:32:30,647 I know it takes time, I know it takes money, 1317 01:32:30,682 --> 01:32:32,649 but surely you probably hold back, 1318 01:32:32,684 --> 01:32:35,894 don't not send you infantry in without your cannons, 1319 01:32:35,928 --> 01:32:38,068 you know, your cannons need to be drawn. 1320 01:32:38,103 --> 01:32:39,483 And of course, they haven't done that. 1321 01:32:39,518 --> 01:32:41,693 So, do you know what? 1322 01:32:41,727 --> 01:32:45,317 Very good, excellent in regarding the information, 1323 01:32:45,351 --> 01:32:50,356 regarding the bone structure anomalies in Marie, Maria 1324 01:32:51,634 --> 01:32:55,879 and also the other anomalies found, but no DNA 1325 01:32:55,914 --> 01:32:58,848 and that basically means that it took a dive-bomb. 1326 01:32:58,882 --> 01:33:01,436 As far as we're concerned, it went flat. 1327 01:33:01,471 --> 01:33:03,438 What they needed is DNA 1328 01:33:03,473 --> 01:33:05,164 and if they hadn't, didn't have the DNA, 1329 01:33:05,199 --> 01:33:07,511 they maybe should have held off on the press conference 1330 01:33:07,546 --> 01:33:08,443 until they had it. 1331 01:33:10,411 --> 01:33:11,585 - [Barry] We've recorded our findings 1332 01:33:11,619 --> 01:33:14,622 and boarded a flight back to the UK, 1333 01:33:14,657 --> 01:33:17,073 leaving behind a black-market of bribes, 1334 01:33:17,107 --> 01:33:19,282 grave robbing, and deceit. 1335 01:33:20,697 --> 01:33:22,285 Although we can sympathize with the Peruvian government 1336 01:33:22,319 --> 01:33:24,563 and its attempts to suppress the hemorrhage 1337 01:33:24,598 --> 01:33:28,118 of ancient artifacts, we strongly disagree with the way 1338 01:33:28,153 --> 01:33:30,534 it tried to discredit the mummified remains 1339 01:33:30,569 --> 01:33:34,021 before any tests had been confirmed. 1340 01:33:34,918 --> 01:33:36,299 So it comes to this. 1341 01:33:37,749 --> 01:33:41,166 Strong scientific analysis and results are necessary 1342 01:33:41,200 --> 01:33:44,790 to prove or disprove the claims posed by both camps. 1343 01:33:44,825 --> 01:33:47,724 The results need to be viewed by the world 1344 01:33:47,759 --> 01:33:49,795 and not a back alley boardroom 1345 01:33:49,830 --> 01:33:52,798 where possible life-changing discoveries such as these 1346 01:33:52,833 --> 01:33:54,731 can easily be buried again. 1347 01:33:56,595 --> 01:33:59,702 We have the results. 1348 01:33:59,736 --> 01:34:02,049 We are going to tell the world. 1349 01:34:03,222 --> 01:34:07,675 And we are going to expose the truth. 1350 01:34:07,710 --> 01:34:10,505 [dramatic music] 110899

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