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That's what everybody thinks about. 13 00:01:08,080 --> 00:01:11,920 It's... days and days of monitoring and communications. 14 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:25,000 We were hopeful that we would, if not get him, 15 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:27,920 we would get someone around him who would lead us to him. 16 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:32,560 [indistinct chatter on radio] 17 00:01:36,360 --> 00:01:38,000 It just didn't work out. 18 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:42,080 Somewhere along the way there was a leak. 19 00:01:45,960 --> 00:01:47,880 [voice on radio, in Spanish] Go on. Go upstairs. 20 00:01:49,440 --> 00:01:53,280 [in English] That's why Ismael Zambada is still alive and free. 21 00:01:53,800 --> 00:01:55,000 Has never been arrested. 22 00:01:55,920 --> 00:01:56,760 Never. 23 00:01:57,720 --> 00:01:59,720 [indistinct chatter on radio, in Spanish] 24 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:06,000 [ominous tune] 25 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:12,840 This is a guy that's been... essentially on the run for over 20 years. 26 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:15,120 [sirens blaring] 27 00:02:18,160 --> 00:02:21,120 [in Spanish] "El Mayo" Zambada is the mastermind 28 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:23,000 of the drug business here in Mexico. 29 00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:31,280 [man wearing scarf, in Spanish] He's more poisonous than a snake. 30 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:36,960 [reporter, in Spanish] Mayo Zambada controls the Sinaloa cartel. 31 00:02:37,920 --> 00:02:40,880 [reporter 2, in English] His cartel is believed to be the number one supplier 32 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:42,920 of heroin, cocaine, and marijuana 33 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:43,840 into the US. 34 00:02:47,600 --> 00:02:50,080 [man] Mayo, he doesn't want to be seen... 35 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:52,480 [gunfire] 36 00:02:52,920 --> 00:02:55,280 ...as a fragile boss. 37 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:34,760 [woman in Spanish] After 40 years in the business of narcotrafficking 38 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:37,160 the mysterious Ismael Zambada Garcia "El Mayo" 39 00:03:37,240 --> 00:03:38,960 has never been captured. 40 00:03:42,760 --> 00:03:46,480 [reporter, in Spanish] Ismael "El Mayo" Zambada for whom the United States offers 41 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:48,240 a bounty of five million dollars. 42 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:07,240 [in English] For the first time in recent history, 43 00:04:07,320 --> 00:04:09,240 opioids killed more Americans 44 00:04:09,320 --> 00:04:10,880 than gun homicides. 45 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:14,600 [female reporter] The opioid epidemic is the deadliest drug overdose crisis 46 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:15,680 in US history. 47 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:22,920 [child wailing] 48 00:04:26,920 --> 00:04:30,560 [man] It's easy to get and it's... easy to smuggle. 49 00:04:33,760 --> 00:04:35,440 It's a pretty scary epidemic. 50 00:04:35,520 --> 00:04:38,800 Because it takes so minimal of it... 51 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:41,480 to kill you. 52 00:04:43,880 --> 00:04:46,720 If you make one wrong error, you're done. 53 00:04:53,200 --> 00:04:58,360 My name is David Lorino. I was the agent that managed the group 54 00:04:58,440 --> 00:05:02,120 of investigating agents that put the case together. 55 00:05:21,840 --> 00:05:24,880 This investigation started from... 56 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:29,360 what we would consider the lowest levels [scoffs] of narcotics business 57 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:31,440 here on the West side of Chicago. 58 00:05:33,640 --> 00:05:35,640 [indistinct chatter] 59 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:40,160 [Lorino] We were buying ounce quantities of heroin 60 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:44,000 from a gang banger on the corner here in Chicago. 61 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:47,880 [phone ringing] 62 00:05:47,960 --> 00:05:49,880 [Lorino] We started intercepting his phone... 63 00:05:49,960 --> 00:05:51,400 [speaking Spanish on phone] 64 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:54,840 [Lorino] ...which took us to another guy... 65 00:05:55,520 --> 00:05:59,040 which took us up the food chain. And the next thing you know... 66 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:02,440 we're onto cartel members. 67 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:07,240 Uh... and the guys that we're buying the dope from on the corner 68 00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:09,200 it's coming from Chapo and from Mayo. 69 00:06:10,280 --> 00:06:13,160 That's when... now, we got real targets. 70 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:15,560 [suspenseful tune] 71 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:22,960 It's like a narcotics agent's dream 72 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:26,240 to... to start buying ounces on a corner 73 00:06:26,320 --> 00:06:30,120 and end up with a cartel member. You-- It just doesn't happen. 74 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:36,920 [man] Mayo Zambada is a foe that we've never dealt with before. 75 00:06:38,120 --> 00:06:41,960 He understood at an early age the importance of maintaining a low key. 76 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:46,520 That told me something important about Mayo. 77 00:06:48,440 --> 00:06:50,920 He's somewhat of a business visionary. 78 00:06:51,760 --> 00:06:54,800 In that he's very strategic in the way that he thinks. 79 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:02,040 I'm Jack Riley. 80 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:03,760 Retired from DEA. 81 00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:07,480 And I was part of the hunt for El Chapo and Mayo. 82 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:21,480 We brought every agency in. The police, 83 00:07:21,560 --> 00:07:25,440 FBI, DEA, ATF. Secret Service was even there. 84 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:28,960 The strike force's sole goal 85 00:07:29,040 --> 00:07:32,960 was to go after Sinaloa and its tentacles to the Chicago street gangs. 86 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:40,800 [Lorino] We were trying-- We wanted to get El Mayo on the phone 87 00:07:40,880 --> 00:07:43,640 to talk about lowering the price or... about quantity 88 00:07:43,720 --> 00:07:46,840 so that we could verify that that dope actually came from him. 89 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:50,440 But we didn't have the... 90 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:53,760 ability at the time to structure a call with Mayo. 91 00:07:57,880 --> 00:07:59,960 [man] There is nothing on Mayo Zambada. 92 00:08:01,880 --> 00:08:05,080 There is no voice recording about... him. 93 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:10,520 My name is Jesus Esquivel. 94 00:08:11,480 --> 00:08:15,760 I am a writer who has been investigating narco traffic for several years. 95 00:08:21,760 --> 00:08:24,480 Mayo knows if he's too much on the phone... 96 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:27,080 could be his end. 97 00:08:28,560 --> 00:08:30,560 [dogs barking] 98 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:33,320 [crickets chirping] 99 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:38,800 [Esquivel] In the meetings with top, top, top leadership of the cartel... 100 00:08:40,960 --> 00:08:41,800 what Mayo said? 101 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:44,320 Nothing. 102 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:48,600 When he wanted to give an order 103 00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:52,320 he called the guy, went outside, and gave the order. 104 00:08:54,320 --> 00:08:58,080 Smart. He probably knew that the DEA of the Mexican government 105 00:08:58,160 --> 00:09:02,520 or even people working with him was taping the conversation. 106 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:05,880 [cricket chirping intensifies] 107 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:07,960 [ominous tune] 108 00:09:09,160 --> 00:09:12,200 [Esquivel] When the Sinaloa cartel was in a real boom... 109 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:16,600 the middle man, the guy who makes the deals... 110 00:09:17,680 --> 00:09:19,800 was Chapo. Because he's a nice guy. 111 00:09:20,040 --> 00:09:24,200 [phone ringing] 112 00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:25,440 [man 1, in Spanish] My friend! 113 00:09:25,520 --> 00:09:27,360 [man 2, in Spanish] What's up, how are you? 114 00:09:27,800 --> 00:09:31,160 [man 1, in Spanish] Good, good. Nice talking to you. How''s your brothers? 115 00:09:31,760 --> 00:09:35,600 Look, there was a gob of evidence against Chapo, okay, in this case. 116 00:09:37,080 --> 00:09:41,040 [man 3, in Spanish] If this telephone falls into the hand of the government 117 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:44,920 our security will be heavily jeopardized. 118 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:50,680 The calls we got to Chapo... were structured through an intermediary. 119 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:54,600 [Chapo, in Spanish] How much did they give you? 120 00:09:54,680 --> 00:09:56,080 [man 4, in Spanish] They gave me 20. 121 00:09:57,640 --> 00:10:00,640 [Chapo, Spanish] Alright then, I'll pick the money up  tomorrow. That's fine. 122 00:10:01,040 --> 00:10:01,920 [man 4, Spanish] Yes. 123 00:10:03,520 --> 00:10:05,640 Those tapes were a killer for him. 124 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:11,360 The tape recordings of him talking upon the cost and the price 125 00:10:11,440 --> 00:10:13,680 and the quantity... of that heroin deal. 126 00:10:14,720 --> 00:10:17,520 No matter what, he could not make those tapes go away. 127 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:26,360 [man] I think it-it really goes to... 128 00:10:26,800 --> 00:10:30,720 how powerful Mayo Zambada is versus El Chapo. 129 00:10:37,800 --> 00:10:42,080 Mayo must be an extremely, extremely intelligent man. 130 00:10:43,040 --> 00:10:46,840 Now, he must be 71, 72, and keep in mind, 131 00:10:46,920 --> 00:10:49,680 his narcotic trafficking started in the early '80s. 132 00:10:53,760 --> 00:10:55,840 [Riley] It's going to be more difficult than Chapo. 133 00:10:56,920 --> 00:11:00,520 He's very familiar with his surroundings and doesn't go from there. 134 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:03,040 So... we got to stay the hunt. 135 00:11:03,920 --> 00:11:04,800 We really do. 136 00:11:34,640 --> 00:11:37,320 [Esquivel] Mayo was a real ranchero from La Sierra. 137 00:11:40,160 --> 00:11:42,720 The way he talks, the way he walks. 138 00:11:48,120 --> 00:11:50,080 The most luxurious car 139 00:11:50,160 --> 00:11:53,960 that has been driven by Mayo was a Ford truck. 140 00:11:55,440 --> 00:11:58,040 He doesn't have to be driving a luxurious 141 00:11:58,480 --> 00:12:01,440 or a Lamborghini or a Ferrari in La Sierra. No. 142 00:12:08,600 --> 00:12:10,320 He started working... 143 00:12:10,400 --> 00:12:13,240 -[gun clicks] -...as a pisolero, sicario, a killer. 144 00:12:15,640 --> 00:12:19,000 Mayo is well known that when he's angry 145 00:12:19,400 --> 00:12:22,440 it's better for you to hide wherever you can. 146 00:12:22,560 --> 00:12:23,560 [gunfire] 147 00:12:24,080 --> 00:12:26,080 [sirens wailing] 148 00:12:30,920 --> 00:12:33,240 [Esquivel] Everybody asks me: "Are you afraid?" 149 00:12:35,280 --> 00:12:38,920 If they want you dead, you're gonna be dead. 150 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:41,200 Especially if you're a Mexican journalist. 151 00:12:52,400 --> 00:12:54,400 [indistinct chatter on radio in Spanish] 152 00:13:02,440 --> 00:13:04,880 [man wearing mask, in Spanish] On this van, I shoot down anyone. 153 00:13:05,680 --> 00:13:07,960 Right in the head. I never miss. 154 00:13:18,400 --> 00:13:19,960 My name is Eladio. 155 00:13:21,480 --> 00:13:25,120 I am Eagle One. I follow every order. 156 00:13:26,280 --> 00:13:29,720 I am happy to be part of the Sinaloa cartel. 157 00:13:31,560 --> 00:13:33,560 [ominous tune, intensifying] 158 00:13:38,280 --> 00:13:40,480 Mayo surrounded himself with, 159 00:13:40,560 --> 00:13:44,200 you know... his own little army, if you will. 160 00:13:45,680 --> 00:13:47,040 [Esquivel] With the rings. 161 00:13:48,680 --> 00:13:51,440 Several rings before you get to top guy. 162 00:13:51,520 --> 00:13:55,680 That's why he delegates too much authority in the sicarios. 163 00:14:01,320 --> 00:14:03,360 [indistinct radio chatter] 164 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:09,280 [interviewer, in Spanish] Who's your boss? 165 00:14:09,360 --> 00:14:14,800 [Eladio, in Spanish] "El Senor Grande", our master, gave us instructions 166 00:14:14,880 --> 00:14:16,880 on how to look after ourselves. 167 00:14:17,840 --> 00:14:20,080 We must never tell his name to anyone. 168 00:14:20,680 --> 00:14:25,280 There are many protocols and we must follow them. 169 00:14:27,320 --> 00:14:29,440 [Esquivel, in English] They called El Mayo "El Senor." 170 00:14:31,280 --> 00:14:32,440 You don't say his name. 171 00:14:33,760 --> 00:14:35,960 It is dangerous. That's evident. 172 00:14:36,320 --> 00:14:38,040 That's very incriminating for you. 173 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:44,440 [man on radio, in Spanish] There is a red Toyota. 174 00:14:46,640 --> 00:14:48,960 [indistinct, muffled speech] 175 00:14:49,040 --> 00:14:50,160 [indistinct voice over radio] 176 00:14:51,480 --> 00:14:54,000 [Eladio, in Spanish] We have to set an information system. 177 00:14:58,360 --> 00:15:01,480 We have 150, 160 members. 178 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:10,600 Some of us are checking the cars... 179 00:15:15,680 --> 00:15:18,640 and inform us about their routes. 180 00:15:23,640 --> 00:15:26,000 We have people in the entrance. 181 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:30,240 Others are in the midway point. Some guys are on the hill. 182 00:15:32,720 --> 00:15:37,760 We also have people in the airport checking flight logs, timetables 183 00:15:37,840 --> 00:15:40,880 and departures. We get information everywhere. 184 00:15:43,920 --> 00:15:47,520 It has to be this way, otherwise we may have surprises. 185 00:15:48,960 --> 00:15:50,920 [interviewer, Spanish] You don't like surprises. 186 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:53,600 [Eladio, Spanish] No, it's too much responsibility. 187 00:15:54,520 --> 00:15:57,400 It does not look good to have your chief scolded. 188 00:15:58,120 --> 00:15:59,640 [indistinct chatter on radio] 189 00:16:10,400 --> 00:16:13,440 [interviewer, Spanish] How does El Mayo always manage to escape? 190 00:16:14,280 --> 00:16:16,600 [Eladio, Spanish] He is at peace with the community. 191 00:16:17,640 --> 00:16:19,160 That's essential. 192 00:16:20,320 --> 00:16:22,320 [church bell tolls] 193 00:16:43,480 --> 00:16:45,840 [Esquivel, in English] You ask with the people, local people: 194 00:16:45,920 --> 00:16:47,240 "They... happy?" 195 00:16:51,240 --> 00:16:54,400 Because the economy's good, the narcos are doing a lot of money. 196 00:16:57,600 --> 00:16:58,600 Everybody's fine. 197 00:17:06,080 --> 00:17:08,520 [man in ski mask, in Spanish] This car will go tomorrow morning. 198 00:17:09,720 --> 00:17:12,240 This one goes directly to the border. 199 00:17:12,560 --> 00:17:16,240 And the car will come back here, loaded with money. 200 00:17:17,520 --> 00:17:18,920 [in English] Follow the money. 201 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:19,920 [buzz] 202 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:21,920 [motor revving] 203 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:23,760 [tires screeching] 204 00:17:29,400 --> 00:17:32,040 [Riley] The Robin Hood theory that Mayo is a hero... 205 00:17:32,720 --> 00:17:36,280 he's building soccer fields and all those other things, churches... 206 00:17:36,680 --> 00:17:40,960 uh... that also is built into his security plan, and his business plan. 207 00:17:41,760 --> 00:17:43,760 [church bells toll] 208 00:17:44,280 --> 00:17:46,680 [Riley] Because it really makes the locals... 209 00:17:47,600 --> 00:17:51,280 voices, in terms of them seeing things and reporting it up the road. 210 00:17:51,760 --> 00:17:53,760 [church bells pealing] 211 00:18:02,120 --> 00:18:04,120 [sirens blaring] 212 00:18:07,240 --> 00:18:09,520 It's difficult for any agency 213 00:18:09,600 --> 00:18:12,360 uh... to go after a guy as accomplished 214 00:18:12,920 --> 00:18:15,280 in organized crime as Mayo Zambada is. 215 00:18:19,240 --> 00:18:22,880 So, what we needed to do was concentrate on the people around him. 216 00:18:23,360 --> 00:18:24,800 [phone ringing] 217 00:18:24,880 --> 00:18:26,840 [Riley] If we're... targeting Mayo, 218 00:18:27,360 --> 00:18:29,280 we're targeting everyone around him 219 00:18:29,880 --> 00:18:33,640 because they're usually least cautious when they use phones. 220 00:18:33,840 --> 00:18:35,840 [phone ringing] 221 00:18:37,760 --> 00:18:41,800 [Riley] By doing that, we can build a life pattern on Mayo. 222 00:19:08,320 --> 00:19:10,320 [upbeat tune] 223 00:19:15,840 --> 00:19:18,680 [man, in Spanish] My name is Victor Gerardo Garay Cadena. 224 00:19:18,760 --> 00:19:21,920 I was in charge of the Federal Police Anti-Drug Unit. 225 00:19:33,280 --> 00:19:35,200 In July 2008... 226 00:19:35,800 --> 00:19:39,040 an American agency representative contacted me 227 00:19:39,360 --> 00:19:40,880 to give me information 228 00:19:41,440 --> 00:19:43,680 on a man called Rey Zambada 229 00:19:44,160 --> 00:19:46,480 and a house in the neighborhood of Linda Vista. 230 00:19:55,800 --> 00:19:58,760 "El Rey" Zambada, brother of Ismael Zambada Garcia 231 00:19:59,760 --> 00:20:04,400 was controlling the drug transport in Mexico City Airport. 232 00:20:08,760 --> 00:20:11,440 I received the information and he asked me for help. 233 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:13,800 "Of course I'll check it," I said. 234 00:20:19,760 --> 00:20:21,440 So we were monitoring the place. 235 00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:25,560 We were certain that something was happening in that house. 236 00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:33,680 On October 20, 2008 237 00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:36,480 there was a raid. 238 00:20:39,320 --> 00:20:41,840 [repeated gunfire] 239 00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:45,640 There was a huge shootout. 240 00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:47,880 He tried to escape. 241 00:20:49,120 --> 00:20:50,600 But we'd surrounded the house. 242 00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:56,120 Desperate, Reynaldo Zambada... 243 00:20:58,480 --> 00:21:01,920 calls the Chief Research Officer of the Federal Police Anti-Drug Unit. 244 00:21:05,640 --> 00:21:08,160 He said to Rey Zambada, 245 00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:11,680 "Hey boss, what can I do for you? 246 00:21:12,120 --> 00:21:15,280 Don't worry. I'm coming to help you." 247 00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:19,320 As the shootout was getting closer 248 00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:22,200 "El Rey" Zambada called again and told him, 249 00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:25,800 "What the hell is going on? Why aren't you here?" 250 00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:28,960 He said, "Sir, I'm almost there. Don't worry. I'm on my way." 251 00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:34,840 We found out that the head of the police investigative unit 252 00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:38,160 was working for the Zambada brothers. 253 00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:43,480 [indistinct chatter] 254 00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:47,400 [sirens blaring] 255 00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:04,160 [man, in Spanish] "El Rey" Zambada was caught. He was the main operator 256 00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:06,160 of Mayo's cartel. 257 00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:14,320 [Cadena, in Spanish] Zambada was very well protected. 258 00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:17,880 Today, we understand why. He was surrounded by policemen. 259 00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:24,120 Because he paid them. As the saying goes, money talks. 260 00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:29,040 The police is state-funded, but drug dealers pay more. 261 00:22:29,120 --> 00:22:31,200 So they obey their orders. 262 00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:33,480 They call them "boss", "chief", "sir". 263 00:22:39,120 --> 00:22:40,600 Throughout my career... 264 00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:43,440 in some areas I've been... 265 00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:47,080 I noticed half of the officers were involved with them. 266 00:22:54,360 --> 00:22:56,600 [Riley, in English] It's part of their terror strategy. 267 00:22:57,000 --> 00:23:01,520 Number one, we're going to try to convince you... to come to work for us. 268 00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:03,840 And if that doesn't work or you're hesitant, 269 00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:05,880 then we're gonna attempt to bribe you. 270 00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:11,680 And if we feel that you're that vital to our operations, 271 00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:14,520 it could be hundreds of thousands of dollars repeatedly. 272 00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:18,880 However, if you turn us down after that 273 00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:20,680 we're gonna put a round in your head. 274 00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:34,080 [suspenseful tune] 275 00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:12,400 They were trying to make a deal with the DEA. 276 00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:13,600 Can you believe that? 277 00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:17,080 Mayos and Chapos making a deal with the DEA. Well, it was real. 278 00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:26,640 So Mayo Zambada sent his son to Mexico City to talk to the DEA. 279 00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:38,040 Vicente was essentially doing logistics for... for Mayo. 280 00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:42,080 Mayo was prepping him to be... his replacement. 281 00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:46,240 He would've been the guy that stepped up. 282 00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:48,520 And had something happened to Mayo, 283 00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:51,160 Vicente would've been the guy in line. 284 00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:05,400 [Esquivel] It was... in the hotel Sheraton in Mexico City. 285 00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:08,960 A few meters actually from the US Embassy. 286 00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:18,720 There were three DEA agents 287 00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:25,080 Loya-Castro, El Vicentillo's lawyer, 288 00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:28,200 and Vicentillo. 289 00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:37,320 [Riley] When... wanted guys want to approach DEA? 290 00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:41,520 What we want to do is find out if it's even worth it. 291 00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:43,600 And they need to understand 292 00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:46,240 if you're gonna tell us something, you gotta tell us everything. 293 00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:50,840 And if we catch you lying, the deal's off. 294 00:25:56,120 --> 00:25:57,640 [Esquivel] They make a deal... 295 00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:01,680 to give the DEA information about... 296 00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:06,240 the whereabouts of the enemies of "El Cartel de Sinaloa." 297 00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:13,520 Talk to the US government. And give them information about your enemies. 298 00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:16,240 And they're gonna... keep you aside. 299 00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:18,880 To continue doing business. 300 00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:27,600 It happened, kind of, that way, but it wasn't set up, if you will. 301 00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:31,440 If one bad guy wants to give up another bad guy... 302 00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:35,040 That's what informants do all along, right? 303 00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:39,400 If we can take information from one bad guy 304 00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:42,720 and take another bad guy out of business... is that a bad thing? 305 00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:52,320 [Esquivel] They spoke for a couple of hours. 306 00:26:56,960 --> 00:26:58,320 They left the room. 307 00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:06,840 [sirens blaring] 308 00:27:11,120 --> 00:27:13,320 [Esquivel] And a few hours after that, 309 00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:16,240 "El Vicentillo" was arrested by the Mexican military. 310 00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:32,960 The obvious question and the obvious situation... 311 00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:36,240 that is drawn from that is, 312 00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:39,280 who gave information to the Mexican military 313 00:27:39,360 --> 00:27:42,120 that el hijo de El "Mayo" Zambada was in Mexico City? 314 00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:48,480 There is a dirty agreement that we don't know the details. 315 00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:56,680 [in Spanish] The Secretary of National Defense informs me that on the 18th 316 00:27:57,440 --> 00:28:01,760 the Army arrested Vicente Zambada Niebla, 317 00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:03,560 aka "El Vicentillo" 318 00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:07,480 son of Ismael Zambada Garcia, aka "El Mayo" Zambada. 319 00:28:21,360 --> 00:28:23,120 [in English] He was arrested and extradited 320 00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:24,680 back into the United States. 321 00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:26,760 [chopper whirring] 322 00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:51,840 [Lorino] I met Vicente as he came off the airplane. 323 00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:55,720 I think he was shocked that he got arrested. 324 00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:01,440 We transported him in a van 325 00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:03,680 with state police escort... 326 00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:06,160 from the airport directly into 327 00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:09,120 the Metropolitan Correctional Center here in Chicago. 328 00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:23,200 [Riley] I remember he was in a... a tracksuit. 329 00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:27,920 And he stuck his hand out to shake my hand and I wasn't gonna shake his hand. 330 00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:32,520 The first thing I wanted to do was ask, "Where's your father? 331 00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:36,760 What's his phone number? What's he drive? Who's around him?" So we could go now. 332 00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:38,480 [scream echoing] 333 00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:45,240 I told him, just, you know: "You gotta think about... your position. 334 00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:48,760 There's no getting out now." 335 00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:52,920 The conditions they kept Vicente in for two years... 336 00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:57,600 were literally draconian measures. 337 00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:00,320 Complete isolation. 338 00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:06,080 [Esquivel] No communication, even with his wife. 339 00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:08,840 He was... kind of, crazy. 340 00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:10,960 He said, "I was so sick, I was... 341 00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:14,720 you know, losing my mind in that cell." 342 00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:16,200 So, he gave up. 343 00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:21,760 He was ready. Vicente was ready... to cooperate at that point. 344 00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:28,560 We told him, "You're gonna have to tell us about your dad, and your dad's activities. 345 00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:33,800 That's your only option for probably ever seeing 346 00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:35,600 the outside of a jail cell again." 347 00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:44,400 [Lorino] I understand his... his dilemma. 348 00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:47,840 For a lot of those guys, you know 349 00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:50,760 their immediate families is a big deal to them. 350 00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:55,000 That's blood. You know, that's a tough spot to be in. 351 00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:02,560 We finally went to, as an option, to try and get past that hurdle... 352 00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:09,360 was through some intermediaries, if you will. 353 00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:12,560 We were able to structure a telephone call... 354 00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:15,400 between him and his father. 355 00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:23,840 Through a number of attorneys, we got a cell phone number to Mayo. 356 00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:32,440 [phone ringing] 357 00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:40,280 Finally, in the middle of the night, uh, Mayo calls. 358 00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:45,680 [Esquivel] Around midnight, the DEA agents... 359 00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:49,480 opened his cell and took "El Vicentillo" out... 360 00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:52,400 and gave him a phone. 361 00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:55,760 [static] 362 00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:00,800 Who was in the line? 363 00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:02,920 Mayo... Zambada. 364 00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:10,720 [Lorino] That phone call was strictly for the purpose 365 00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:12,640 of him explaining to his dad, 366 00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:14,880 "I don't really want to tell them... 367 00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:17,560 but it's the only real shot I have." 368 00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:26,240 Mayo told him: 369 00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:29,760 "You do what you have to do, son... 370 00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:33,440 to help yourself and... help your family." 371 00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:43,200 That was a big day. 372 00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:49,280 [busy telephone tone] 373 00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:58,920 He led to probably hundreds of arrests. 374 00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:01,280 [sirens wailing] 375 00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:08,520 [Riley] Quite frankly, he showed us... 376 00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:10,720 how they operate. 377 00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:21,360 They forced him to betray Chapo. 378 00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:24,320 That was the reason of that call. 379 00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:26,720 To say, "Papa, I don't have other option. 380 00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:29,520 It's us... or him." 381 00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:40,120 Will you sacrifice your son... for your compadre? 382 00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:41,640 No. 383 00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:44,080 He was over. 384 00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:51,920 Especially, if you call the attention of international media, the governments. 385 00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:57,520 For the narco-traffic business, you have to be quiet. 386 00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:00,800 Towards the end, Chapo got a little stupid. 387 00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:04,120 And he began to go places he shouldn't. 388 00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:06,280 He began to do some public things. 389 00:34:18,720 --> 00:34:22,480 I know, because we know from Vicente that Mayo was very upset... 390 00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:26,280 with the way that he was going, because he was concerned 391 00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:30,440 that Chapo was gonna lead to more heat for the organization as itself. 392 00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:38,520 Chapo became an international problem... 393 00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:42,400 because his name was known all over the world. 394 00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:53,160 [Eladio, in Spanish] He felt over-confident about his safety. 395 00:34:53,240 --> 00:34:56,200 This kind of person, you can't say anything to them. 396 00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:59,000 He let himself be seen where he wasn't supposed to be seen. 397 00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:02,360 -That's why he is in jail now. -[banging on door] 398 00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:09,120 [indistinct voices on radio] 399 00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:11,880 [gunfire] 400 00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:16,200 [rapid gunfire] 401 00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:20,400 [Marine officers shouting indistinctly, in Spanish] 402 00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:22,720 [officer, in Spanish] Two here. 403 00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:36,960 [Riley, in English] He's coming off the plane, 404 00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:39,000 and, uh, he's crying. 405 00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:43,320 And I had that freeze framed, and I got it in a frame now. 406 00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:45,600 [interviewer] Did you meet Chapo? 407 00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:48,760 No. Good thing, too. 'Cause I probably would've dropped him. 408 00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:51,280 I would've cold-cocked him right there. 409 00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:56,640 [reporter, in Spanish] Drug trafficker Joaquin "El Chapo" Guzman 410 00:35:56,720 --> 00:35:59,960 was sentenced to spend the rest of his life in prison. 411 00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:02,600 [reporter 2, in French] El Chapo will spend his life in prison. 412 00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:05,720 [reporter 3, in English] "El Chapo" Guzman was sentenced to life in prison. 413 00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:15,680 [in Spanish] Breaking news. 414 00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:19,400 Vicente Zambada Niebla, "El Vicentillo", was sentenced in Chicago 415 00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:23,200 to 15 years in prison and five years of probation. 416 00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:43,720 [Esquivel, in English] The sacrifice was to be in jail for a period of... 417 00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:46,400 fifteen, fourteen years? 418 00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:50,320 And then: "Mi hijo, you're gonna be free." 419 00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:55,160 And... under the custody of the US government. 420 00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:56,720 What an irony! 421 00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:02,160 His father, the biggest narco-trafficker ever, in Mexico 422 00:37:02,240 --> 00:37:06,000 and his oldest son, being protected by the US government. 423 00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:15,720 What about El Mayo? 424 00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:19,280 Now that you have El Chapo, that's it? 425 00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:22,200 Sinaloa disappears? 426 00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:23,360 No. 427 00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:26,720 [sirens blaring] 428 00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:35,880 [reporter, in Spanish] A very violent day in Culiacan, the capital of Sinaloa. 429 00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:37,960 [sirens blaring] 430 00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:53,640 The Mexican Army and the Guardia Nacional... 431 00:37:56,600 --> 00:37:59,400 were working on a tip 432 00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:03,200 about the hideout of Ovidio Guzman Lopez, 433 00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:04,960 one of Chapo's sons. 434 00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:07,280 And they found him. 435 00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:10,560 [indistinct conversations in Spanish] 436 00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:13,800 [officer, in Spanish] Get out, get out! Get out, Ovidio! 437 00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:17,440 [men discussing indistinctly, in Spanish] 438 00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:19,600 [officer, in Spanish] Calm down. 439 00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:25,400 -[officer] Do you have weapons? -[Ovidio] No, not anymore. 440 00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:28,920 [Esquivel, in English] Even when El Chapo is in jail forever, 441 00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:31,160 his sons are under the protection 442 00:38:31,240 --> 00:38:34,080 of his compadre, Ismael "El Mayo" Zambada Garcia. 443 00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:40,480 [in Spanish] The federal authorities have found 444 00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:43,320 one or two sons of Joaquin "El Chapo" Guzman. 445 00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:47,040 This triggered a violent reaction from the Sinaloa cartel. 446 00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:51,760 [gunshots] 447 00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:54,840 [Esquivel, in English] The sicarios, pistoleros or killers... 448 00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:57,920 started to intimidate... 449 00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:01,120 the society of... Culiacan. 450 00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:04,880 And it was all this crazy stuff. 451 00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:09,120 [rapid gunfire] 452 00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:26,040 -[heavy gunfire] -[people shouting indistinctly, Spanish] 453 00:39:37,720 --> 00:39:40,320 [voice 1 on radio, in Spanish] What do you say, boss? 454 00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:42,520 [voice 2, in Spanish] What did "El Senor" tell you? 455 00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:45,640 [in English] When they refer to "El Senor" 456 00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:48,320 he's talking about... Mayo Zambada. 457 00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:52,280 Nothing moves in Sinaloa without the order 458 00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:55,160 or permission of Ismael "El Mayo" Zambada. 459 00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:57,960 He was in charge. He was giving the orders. 460 00:39:59,880 --> 00:40:02,800 [voice 3 on radio, in Spanish] Go ahead! Our man has been captured, 461 00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:06,400 the other commandant said to go ahead. 462 00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:09,320 [voice 4 on radio, in Spanish] Let's kidnap families, 463 00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:12,160 and until they don't free him, we will not release them. 464 00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:20,000 [gunfire] 465 00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:31,920 [voice 5 on radio, in Spanish] Cool down, bro. Cool down, all is good. 466 00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:33,200 We are negotiating. 467 00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:11,400 [Esquivel, in English] The Mexican government 468 00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:13,080 was so intimidated. 469 00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:18,360 That's when they sent the orders to let Chapo's son go. 470 00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:28,640 The message sent to the Sinaloa cartel... 471 00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:33,120 by that action is: "You guys are untouchable. 472 00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:36,640 You are the owners of the State. This is your home." 473 00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:40,600 [indistinct chatter] 474 00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:50,800 [in Spanish] The arrest of a criminal 475 00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:52,560 is not worth 476 00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:58,000 human lives. 477 00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:34,120 [policeman, in Spanish] We arrived here at 2 a.m. 478 00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:36,840 Later, we started to notice 479 00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:39,240 the smell that comes from this kind of labs. 480 00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:45,920 They produced nearly a ton a day. 481 00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:47,040 Methamphetamine. 482 00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:56,320 [interviewer, in Spanish] Arresting Mayo Zambada is a priority? 483 00:42:57,160 --> 00:43:00,520 [in Spanish] Our priority is to guarantee the people's safety. 484 00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:05,360 Arresting him is not our priority. Do we arrest him because it's priority? 485 00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:07,640 No, it isn't our priority. 486 00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:15,320 [man over mic, in Spanish] We've finished with the strategy 487 00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:16,640 of operations 488 00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:20,960 to arrest drug lords. 489 00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:28,200 We've wasted a lot of time doing that 490 00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:30,760 and it didn't work. 491 00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:32,880 There is no war. 492 00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:36,360 It's official: "The war is over." 493 00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:39,880 We want peace. 494 00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:42,360 We'll achieve peace. 495 00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:55,280 [Esquivel, in English] The reason that he wants... 496 00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:57,600 peace with the narcos... 497 00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:00,120 is the insecurity in Mexico. 498 00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:06,880 Now Mexicans, we are used to... the death. 499 00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:09,280 And it's too sad. 500 00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:16,640 We don't get surprised if we saw people dead on the streets... 501 00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:20,480 or hanging from a bridge. It's normal for us. 502 00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:23,080 It's not normal for any society. 503 00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:25,560 [church bells pealing] 504 00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:28,600 [prayers in Spanish] 505 00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:34,680 -[prayers in Spanish continue] -[woman weeping] 506 00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:47,800 [in English] We still think... Mayo may be the number one bad guy in the world. 507 00:44:51,240 --> 00:44:53,360 [chanting, in Spanish] 508 00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:56,480 [in English] We gotta keep the pressure up on all angles... 509 00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:01,720 and not let this thing go... 510 00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:05,120 you know, in the moth balls for another ten years. 511 00:45:09,640 --> 00:45:11,440 [man on radio, in Spanish] 512 00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:16,120 [Eladio, in Spanish] Empires never end. Empires never fall, never crumble. 513 00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:22,680 If one falls another takes his place. 514 00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:24,360 Stronger and steadier. 40166

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