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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:06,920 --> 00:00:08,420 WOMAN: 2 00:00:11,160 --> 00:00:12,660 MAN: 3 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:18,180 WOMAN: 4 00:00:30,840 --> 00:00:32,180 NEWSREADER: Good evening. 5 00:00:32,240 --> 00:00:36,100 Could this be another example of a Russian being poisoned on UK soil? 6 00:00:36,160 --> 00:00:39,100 A man in hospital tonight, Sergei Skripal, 7 00:00:39,160 --> 00:00:41,820 a Russian convicted in Moscow for spying for Britain 8 00:00:41,880 --> 00:00:43,300 and now living in the UK 9 00:00:43,360 --> 00:00:45,660 is in a critical condition. 10 00:00:48,160 --> 00:00:49,700 PUTIN: 11 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:09,700 WOMAN: 12 00:01:43,320 --> 00:01:46,420 MAN: There are much, much quicker and easier ways to kill someone 13 00:01:46,480 --> 00:01:47,700 than poison. 14 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:50,660 You generally use poison for one or both of two reasons - 15 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:53,220 one is deniability, 16 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:55,540 secondly is theatre. 17 00:01:55,600 --> 00:01:58,740 And I think in this case, the Russians were looking for both. 18 00:01:58,800 --> 00:02:01,180 They wanted to have a certain amount of deniability. 19 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:03,860 They wanted to be able to say, "Nothing to do with us". 20 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:07,300 But they also wanted to do it with a certain amount of smirk and twinkle. 21 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:10,460 In a way that actually we knew it really was them. 22 00:02:12,440 --> 00:02:16,740 MAN: There's an expression in Russia that the fish rots from the head. 23 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:18,340 WOMAN: People quite often say, 24 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:20,740 "Oh, Putin must be the richest man in the world." 25 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:23,180 MAN 2: That's a direct strike at the very heart 26 00:02:23,240 --> 00:02:25,460 of the whole system that Vladimir Putin has built. 27 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:28,460 MAN 3: So the only thing that they could have done 28 00:02:28,520 --> 00:02:30,380 was to rig the election. 29 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:33,220 WOMAN 2: As far as Putin's concerned, 30 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:35,540 this is just one of the casualties of war. 31 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:52,260 (APPLAUSE) (LIVELY MUSIC) 32 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:00,940 He's about to sing, isn't he? 33 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:06,180 # I found my thrill 34 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:09,420 # On Blueberry Hill 35 00:03:09,480 --> 00:03:11,500 (CHUCKLES) 36 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:14,180 # On Blueberry Hill 37 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:17,620 # When I found you 38 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:20,300 There was also Sharon Stone in the room, right? 39 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:23,660 # The moon stood still 40 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:28,740 Putin has a flare for these kinds of gestures. 41 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:34,740 He likes to surprise people and he was having some fun. 42 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:37,980 # My dreams came true 43 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:44,060 MAN: The Russian Constitution forbids anyone 44 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:49,140 to stay in power longer than eight years consecutively. 45 00:03:49,200 --> 00:03:53,860 # But all of those vows we made 46 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:58,140 # Were never to be 47 00:03:59,160 --> 00:04:03,140 So two presidential terms is a very clear-cut case. 48 00:04:03,200 --> 00:04:07,260 You have to step down and some other person has to take your place 49 00:04:07,320 --> 00:04:08,740 in the Kremlin. 50 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:14,380 # On Blueberry Hill. # 51 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:18,700 (APPLAUSE) 52 00:04:30,880 --> 00:04:33,860 So, in 2008, Putin steps down. 53 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:41,060 He became the Prime Minister and the new President was selected. 54 00:04:44,760 --> 00:04:48,460 Well, manually selected at that time 55 00:04:48,520 --> 00:04:52,860 by Vladimir Putin as he is, as the new Russia's President. 56 00:04:57,360 --> 00:05:02,100 All of a sudden, he was no longer the man behind the big desk. 57 00:05:02,160 --> 00:05:03,820 He was no longer formally in power. 58 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:06,380 And I think he found this psychologically problematic. 59 00:05:11,640 --> 00:05:16,780 This is a man who's having trouble coping with his new identity 60 00:05:16,840 --> 00:05:20,020 as - technically speaking - the second-in-command. 61 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:25,140 How is he gonna be perceived? 62 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:27,580 Not just today and not just by Russians, 63 00:05:27,640 --> 00:05:29,900 but tomorrow and by the world. 64 00:05:34,840 --> 00:05:39,140 Medvedev is this pro-Western, 65 00:05:39,200 --> 00:05:42,220 pro-progress, pro-modernisation person. 66 00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:48,380 Russia was actually developing and moving in the right direction. 67 00:05:52,160 --> 00:05:57,140 MAN: Putin, I think, discovered during Dmitri Medvedev's presidency 68 00:05:57,200 --> 00:06:00,020 that Russia needed a strong hand on the tiller 69 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:02,980 and his was the only hand that... that would work. 70 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:10,980 He became convinced that, you know, the only way to protect Russia, 71 00:06:11,040 --> 00:06:14,900 but also to protect his own power, his own wealth and everything else, 72 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:16,460 was to return to the Kremlin. 73 00:06:36,520 --> 00:06:38,140 (CHEERING AND APPLAUSE) 74 00:06:50,200 --> 00:06:51,780 (APPLAUSE) 75 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:57,060 GALEOTTI: That was, I think, a shocking moment 76 00:06:57,120 --> 00:06:58,100 for a lot of Russians. 77 00:06:58,160 --> 00:07:00,500 There was something about the brazenness of the process, 78 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:02,540 the fact it almost implied that the presidency 79 00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:05,300 was just basically some little trinket 80 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:07,460 that could be exchanged between them. 81 00:07:07,520 --> 00:07:10,100 And that, I think, very much set the scene 82 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:13,700 for why we saw such massive protests around the parliamentary elections 83 00:07:13,760 --> 00:07:15,140 that followed. 84 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:22,900 REPORTER: The country is unusually tense today 85 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:25,900 because there are signs of change in the air. 86 00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:28,500 WOMAN: This wasn't a presidential election. 87 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:30,860 These were parliamentary elections. 88 00:07:30,920 --> 00:07:35,140 But it was important to Mr Putin and those around him 89 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:37,420 that they had the right parliament. 90 00:07:37,480 --> 00:07:40,980 And it was also, to some extent, a dry run for the presidency 91 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:42,340 some months later. 92 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:46,380 FISHMAN: Emotion and feeling was so strong 93 00:07:46,440 --> 00:07:53,140 that people were ready to vote anyone against Putin's party. 94 00:07:55,240 --> 00:08:00,820 So the only thing that they could have done was to rig the election. 95 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:23,940 In Moscow alone, and these are independent estimates, 96 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:27,900 more than a million votes were simply stolen. 97 00:08:30,720 --> 00:08:33,580 REPORTER: In Russia, Prime Minister Putin's party looks set for victory 98 00:08:33,640 --> 00:08:36,940 after parliamentary elections today, albeit with a reduced majority... 99 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:39,980 REPORTER 2: The once-untouchable Vladimir Putin appeared, 100 00:08:40,040 --> 00:08:42,100 looking more subdued than usual. 101 00:08:42,160 --> 00:08:43,820 HILLARY CLINTON: We have serious concerns 102 00:08:43,880 --> 00:08:46,140 about the conduct of those elections. 103 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:50,540 Independent political parties were denied the right to register. 104 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:53,180 And the preliminary report by the OSCE 105 00:08:53,240 --> 00:08:56,460 cites election day attempts to stuff ballot boxes, 106 00:08:56,520 --> 00:08:59,540 manipulate voter lists and other troubling practices. 107 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:02,420 MAN: This was by no means 108 00:09:02,480 --> 00:09:05,500 the first election rigged under Vladimir Putin. 109 00:09:05,560 --> 00:09:08,020 What made it different was that... 110 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:11,260 Of course, this was already the age of social media and smartphones 111 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:14,140 and so the news of this rigging 112 00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:16,220 and the blatant nature of this rigging 113 00:09:16,280 --> 00:09:18,860 spread throughout the country in literally hours. 114 00:09:18,920 --> 00:09:20,500 (SIRENS WAIL) 115 00:09:25,720 --> 00:09:29,020 FISHMAN: And this is when we understand 116 00:09:29,080 --> 00:09:31,300 that something is going on. 117 00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:35,900 That this moral rebellion against humiliation, 118 00:09:35,960 --> 00:09:40,060 against lies, against corruption, 119 00:09:40,120 --> 00:09:41,460 that this is real. 120 00:09:52,520 --> 00:09:55,500 It was like this forgotten feeling 121 00:09:55,560 --> 00:10:00,780 that you and others share the same emotion, 122 00:10:00,840 --> 00:10:03,980 share the same feeling, share the same understanding 123 00:10:04,040 --> 00:10:05,460 that you're together. 124 00:10:06,520 --> 00:10:10,780 KARA-MURZA: One of the leaders of those protests was Boris Nemtsov. 125 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:25,500 Nemtsov was always never afraid to speak his own mind. 126 00:10:29,160 --> 00:10:32,980 And he was absolutely brilliant in mobilising... 127 00:10:33,040 --> 00:10:35,620 ..mass protests on the streets of Russia. 128 00:10:37,800 --> 00:10:40,340 KENDALL: These huge crowds coming out 129 00:10:40,400 --> 00:10:44,340 first, protesting against fraud in the parliamentary elections, 130 00:10:44,400 --> 00:10:47,620 but then after a few days, when they were not stopped, 131 00:10:47,680 --> 00:10:52,420 it morphing into a much bigger call for, in the end, Putin to step down. 132 00:11:03,160 --> 00:11:05,420 FISHMAN: He thought it would be an easy ride. 133 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:07,700 That he would simply get re-elected 134 00:11:07,760 --> 00:11:10,820 and then rule Russia for what, 12 years again. 135 00:11:10,880 --> 00:11:12,700 (CHEERING) 136 00:11:14,560 --> 00:11:18,540 And that must have been cataclysmic for the Kremlin, I think. 137 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:19,540 When they're thinking, 138 00:11:19,600 --> 00:11:23,300 "We've got presidential elections coming in just a few months' time. 139 00:11:23,360 --> 00:11:24,900 "How are we going to handle it?" 140 00:11:27,760 --> 00:11:32,300 First, yes, Putin was shocked, then he regrouped... 141 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:36,140 ..and counter-attacked. 142 00:11:44,760 --> 00:11:49,420 (CHEERING AND APPLAUSE) 143 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:16,900 REPORTER: Russians are going to the polls 144 00:12:16,960 --> 00:12:19,820 to vote in the most controversial presidential election in decades. 145 00:12:19,880 --> 00:12:22,660 The turnout is said to have been high so far. 146 00:12:22,720 --> 00:12:24,700 REPORTER: Even his visit to the polling station ended 147 00:12:24,760 --> 00:12:28,020 with three half-naked women being led away shouting, 148 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:29,660 "Putin is a thief." 149 00:12:29,720 --> 00:12:32,580 There have already been thousands of allegations of fraud, 150 00:12:32,640 --> 00:12:35,340 including this footage apparently showing a man 151 00:12:35,400 --> 00:12:38,020 feeding ballot paper after ballot paper 152 00:12:38,080 --> 00:12:39,740 into an automatic voting machine. 153 00:12:41,760 --> 00:12:45,220 Just as polls closed in Kaliningrad in the far west 154 00:12:45,280 --> 00:12:50,020 this big show began just outside the Kremlin. 155 00:12:50,080 --> 00:12:53,780 (CHEERING) 156 00:13:01,560 --> 00:13:04,860 It was a bit odd, really, 'cause it was a victory parade 157 00:13:04,920 --> 00:13:06,340 when the polls had only just closed, 158 00:13:06,400 --> 00:13:08,100 so they couldn't have possibly counted everything. 159 00:13:23,240 --> 00:13:25,500 (CHEERING) 160 00:13:26,560 --> 00:13:30,060 He couldn't conceal his emotion. 161 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:09,620 (CHEERING) 162 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:33,020 (SIREN BLARES) 163 00:14:33,080 --> 00:14:35,900 REPORTER: The Russian government has strongly denied allegations 164 00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:39,660 that it was involved in the killing of an opposition politician. 165 00:14:39,720 --> 00:14:42,980 Boris Nemtsov was a former Deputy Prime Minister 166 00:14:43,040 --> 00:14:45,700 and a prominent critic of President Vladimir Putin. 167 00:14:46,680 --> 00:14:50,100 Last night he was shot four times in the back. 168 00:14:57,600 --> 00:15:01,860 GURIEV: Mr Putin wants to find new basis for his new presidency, 169 00:15:01,920 --> 00:15:06,420 because he has no vision, no future to offer to the people. 170 00:15:07,840 --> 00:15:10,900 And now, economic growth is slowing down, 171 00:15:10,960 --> 00:15:13,180 approval ratings are coming down. 172 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:16,140 From the peak they went down by 20 percentage points. 173 00:15:16,200 --> 00:15:21,060 He is looking for a new idea he can offer to the Russian public. 174 00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:25,500 WOMAN: In the beginning he'd managed to rule by saying, 175 00:15:25,560 --> 00:15:29,460 "I'm not what came before. I'm a new, healthy Russia." 176 00:15:30,600 --> 00:15:33,140 And then he felt like he needed something new. 177 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:37,380 So starting in, like, early 2013, I guess, 178 00:15:37,440 --> 00:15:41,300 the beginning whispers of very public 179 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:45,380 anti-LGBT rhetoric from state officials started to emerge. 180 00:15:50,800 --> 00:15:56,340 A year later you had the anti-gay propaganda laws. 181 00:15:57,920 --> 00:16:02,980 You started to see vigilante justice all around the country 182 00:16:03,040 --> 00:16:08,700 where you had groups that would form and lure gay men over apps 183 00:16:08,760 --> 00:16:12,020 and then violently beat them up, film it and put it on the internet. 184 00:17:21,040 --> 00:17:22,740 KENDALL: What Mr Putin wants to do 185 00:17:22,800 --> 00:17:24,980 is to get at the working man and working woman 186 00:17:25,040 --> 00:17:27,700 and he wants to make sure he keeps them on side. 187 00:17:27,760 --> 00:17:30,620 And that he as president embodies the narrative 188 00:17:30,680 --> 00:17:32,500 that Russia is up from its knees. 189 00:17:32,560 --> 00:17:35,500 It's great again. It can take on the world. 190 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:41,620 And those pictures send that story. 191 00:17:42,760 --> 00:17:46,260 So how do you go on doing that year after year after year? 192 00:17:47,760 --> 00:17:49,820 GURIEV: Well, people know he's ageing. 193 00:17:51,560 --> 00:17:56,980 And officially nobody says that Putin has plastic surgery. 194 00:17:57,040 --> 00:18:00,980 Now, he occasionally disappears for a week or two. 195 00:18:02,160 --> 00:18:05,740 KENDALL: So Putin always used to have a really quite bony face. 196 00:18:05,800 --> 00:18:07,780 And suddenly his face was all puffy. 197 00:18:07,840 --> 00:18:11,860 It certainly is true that he was very close to Berlusconi. 198 00:18:12,800 --> 00:18:16,380 I've heard him talk very, very warmly about Mr Berlusconi. 199 00:18:16,440 --> 00:18:20,540 So the idea that the Italian Prime Minister suggested to him 200 00:18:20,600 --> 00:18:24,300 that he could help him with a little bit of Botox 201 00:18:24,360 --> 00:18:27,700 from his plastic surgeon is entirely credible. 202 00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:50,340 Sergei Magnitsky was a Moscow-based lawyer, 203 00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:55,060 but you have to go back to Magnitsky's boss Bill Browder. 204 00:19:55,120 --> 00:19:57,460 Bill Browder was a big investor in Russia 205 00:19:57,520 --> 00:19:59,300 and then fell out with Putin. 206 00:20:00,800 --> 00:20:04,020 Browder had been barred from Russia and set up in London, 207 00:20:04,080 --> 00:20:06,620 but still had holding companies in Moscow, 208 00:20:06,680 --> 00:20:09,380 which had been raided by Moscow tax police. 209 00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:15,980 My offices were raided by 25 police officers 210 00:20:16,040 --> 00:20:18,700 from the Moscow interior ministry. 211 00:20:20,440 --> 00:20:24,140 I hired Sergei Magnitsky to investigate this case. 212 00:20:26,280 --> 00:20:28,460 And what Sergei discovered was that 213 00:20:28,520 --> 00:20:31,340 using the documents seized by the police, 214 00:20:31,400 --> 00:20:35,660 the perpetrators had gone back to the tax authorities 215 00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:41,420 and applied for a $230 million illegal tax refund. 216 00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:48,300 After Sergei testified against these corrupt police officers, 217 00:20:48,360 --> 00:20:51,660 some of the same police officers he testified against 218 00:20:51,720 --> 00:20:56,260 came to his home, arrested him, and put him in pre-trial detention. 219 00:20:57,360 --> 00:21:02,780 After about six months of consistent torture and abuse, 220 00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:05,500 Sergei started to have health problems. 221 00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:07,980 He'd developed terrible pains in his stomach, 222 00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:12,580 and in 2009 Sergei Magnitsky went into critical condition. 223 00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:17,300 Instead of putting him in the emergency room, 224 00:21:17,360 --> 00:21:19,740 they put him in an isolation cell. 225 00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:21,340 They chained him to a bed 226 00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:25,020 and eight riot guards with rubber batons came into that cell 227 00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:27,700 and beat him until he died. 228 00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:39,220 He was 37 years old. 229 00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:41,700 He left a wife and two children. 230 00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:50,300 There's an expression in Russia, that the fish rots from the head. 231 00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:53,660 In order for him to run the country, 232 00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:57,180 Vladimir Putin needs the support of people below him - 233 00:21:57,240 --> 00:22:01,620 officials who are extremely rich, 234 00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:07,220 that are enforcers and implementers of Putin's criminal activities. 235 00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:10,540 And then below them there's other people 236 00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:14,060 that run the mechanics of this Mafia state. 237 00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:21,020 The Magnitsky Act was a piece of legislation which I came up with 238 00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:26,580 and I lobbied in the United States with the US Congress. 239 00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:33,380 And the Magnitsky Act freezes assets and bans visas of the people 240 00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:34,980 who killed Sergei Magnitsky 241 00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:38,220 and the people who commit other gross human rights abuses. 242 00:23:00,360 --> 00:23:04,540 (CAUTIOUS APPLAUSE) 243 00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:39,180 So after the Magnitsky Act was passed in the United States, 244 00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:43,060 Vladimir Putin wanted to come after me and come after Sergei Magnitsky. 245 00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:52,220 So in July of 2013, he put us on trial in Moscow. 246 00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:54,180 I wasn't in Moscow, I was here in London, 247 00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:57,260 so I was on trial...in absentia. 248 00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:04,060 And they'd killed Sergei Magnitsky three years earlier. 249 00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:15,460 Well, during the trial, you had a courtroom with a prosecutor, 250 00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:19,860 with a judge, and a cage with two empty seats. 251 00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:24,100 One for me and one for Sergei. 252 00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:29,540 It was the first ever trial against a dead man in the history of Russia. 253 00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:37,580 They couldn't sentence Sergei to anything more than death. 254 00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:41,100 They sentenced me to nine years in absentia. 255 00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:49,500 (APPLAUSE) 256 00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:51,460 PUTIN: Millions of citizens of Russia 257 00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:54,380 are united by the Olympic dream. 258 00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:57,900 Winter sports are very popular in Russia. 259 00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:00,780 Our athletes have scored many victories 260 00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:04,380 and have made major contributions to the Olympic movement. 261 00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:07,300 Getting the Sochi Olympics was clearly a very big deal 262 00:25:07,360 --> 00:25:09,300 for Vladimir Putin. 263 00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:15,620 The 22nd Olympic Winter Games in 2014... 264 00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:18,020 ..are awarded to the city of Sochi! 265 00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:21,380 (WILD CHEERING) 266 00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:29,140 KENDALL: He wanted the world to see that Russia could put on 267 00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:34,060 a huge logistical exercise and a big party and impress everyone, 268 00:25:34,120 --> 00:25:37,140 as a sort of superpower - 269 00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:40,860 but not in terms of oil and gas wealth or nuclear weapons, 270 00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:42,380 but in terms of soft power. 271 00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:44,540 In terms of culture and sport. 272 00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:52,780 Sport plays a very, very important role in Soviet and Russian ideology. 273 00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:56,300 Actually plays a very important role in any authoritarian ideology. 274 00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:02,620 It is the biggest symbol of Russia 275 00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:04,940 back at the centrestage of the world. 276 00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:10,180 It's his big party. 277 00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:13,820 (CHEERING) 278 00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:24,700 And, of course, the event gets spoilt for him 279 00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:26,420 by what's happening in Ukraine. 280 00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:46,660 MAN: The Ukrainians start demonstrating 281 00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:48,980 in the central square in Kiev. 282 00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:52,980 They're flying the Ukrainian flag and the European Union flag. 283 00:26:57,480 --> 00:27:03,220 They see Europe as less corruption, more rule of law, 284 00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:06,260 and the prosperity that comes from less corruption 285 00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:07,420 and more rule of law. 286 00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:11,460 And the protest grows. 287 00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:14,140 And it suddenly takes on the characteristics 288 00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:15,780 of a political revolution. 289 00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:23,980 Putin wants a regime in Ukraine which resembles his own 290 00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:26,740 and the Ukrainians were saying, 291 00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:30,540 "Goddammit, this is our country. We live here. 292 00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:33,420 "We want a say in our own country's future." 293 00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:36,740 (SHOUTING) 294 00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:39,780 (EXPLOSIONS) 295 00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:46,820 To lose Ukraine, from a Russian point of view, is a catastrophe. 296 00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:51,540 REPORTER: Russia has warned that violent protests 297 00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:54,460 in Ukraine's capital Kiev are growing out of control 298 00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:57,180 after another night of clashes with police. 299 00:27:58,160 --> 00:27:59,900 OSTROVSKY: He's angry. 300 00:27:59,960 --> 00:28:02,300 He's furious, actually. 301 00:28:02,360 --> 00:28:05,020 He's really, really furious. 302 00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:07,660 This country's stealing his show. 303 00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:10,660 Instead of the pictures of Russian triumphs... 304 00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:14,460 ..there are pictures of people being shot. 305 00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:18,980 Ukraine totally overshadows his event. 306 00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:04,380 FRIED: Putin moves fast. 307 00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:06,740 Little green men appear in Crimea. 308 00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:09,500 And he seizes it, 309 00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:12,300 almost without a shot being fired. 310 00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:14,140 HILLARY CLINTON: As President Obama has said, 311 00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:18,380 the Russian intervention in Crimea violates international law. 312 00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:23,940 And it is therefore of deep concern to the Unites States and our allies. 313 00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:27,660 REPORTER: Russia controls Crimea now 314 00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:31,460 but no-one knows what President Putin plans to do next. 315 00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:34,860 REPORTER: You can see how all of this 316 00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:37,780 is being orchestrated directly from Moscow 317 00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:41,180 and we're seeing it unfold right here on the ground. 318 00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:48,380 (GUNSHOTS) 319 00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:51,540 FRIED: Putin tries to do the same thing in Eastern Ukraine. 320 00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:56,180 And he sends more little green men across. 321 00:29:57,160 --> 00:29:59,180 The Ukrainians fought back 322 00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:04,780 and there's an actual Goddamn war between Ukraine and Russia. 323 00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:38,900 REPORTER: The conflict between Russia and Ukraine may have claimed 324 00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:41,900 the lives of more than 300 innocent air travellers. 325 00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:45,940 A Malaysian Airlines jet appears to have been shot down. 326 00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:49,500 OSTROVSKY: I don't think this was planned by Putin. 327 00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:53,140 They didn't plan to down a civilian aircraft. 328 00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:55,540 It's collateral damage in the situation of war. 329 00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:27,900 The official line was that everybody in Russia, 330 00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:31,180 99%, was supporting what Putin was doing. 331 00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:34,660 And I will never forget... 332 00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:36,340 ..what I saw that day. 333 00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:39,980 (MAN SHOUTS IN RUSSIAN) 334 00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:45,620 When the whole boulevard ring in central Moscow was just filled 335 00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:48,300 with thousands and thousands of people. 336 00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:51,140 A sea of faces and flags as far as the eye could see. 337 00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:58,500 Of Russians who came out to say, 338 00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:01,220 "This is not my war. Not in my name." 339 00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:07,420 Boris Nemtsov organised and led two marches of peace 340 00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:09,420 against Putin's war. 341 00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:20,100 Boris Nemtsov thought that he could be arrested 342 00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:21,940 and put in prison for a long time. 343 00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:23,940 As many Putin opponents are. 344 00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:32,220 I do not think he or any of us would consider the possibility 345 00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:34,780 that the most prominent leader of the opposition 346 00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:38,860 would be gunned down on a bridge 200 yards from the Kremlin wall. 347 00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:42,260 (SIREN WAILS) 348 00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:48,220 (MAN SPEAKING RUSSIAN) 349 00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:24,020 Anybody who's been to Moscow even once, knows that, you know, 350 00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:26,380 you can't even stand for a few minutes on that bridge 351 00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:29,420 without a plain clothes officer, a police officer, 352 00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:31,460 running up to you and saying "What are you doing?" 353 00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:37,140 This is the most protected area, not just in Moscow, 354 00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:39,820 but probably in the whole of Europe. 355 00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:43,180 There are dozens of television cameras installed around. 356 00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:47,580 There are always security officers around and of course, 357 00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:51,180 as opposition leader, Boris Nemtsov always had a, you know, 358 00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:53,740 FSB people following him everywhere he went. 359 00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:45,660 I find it impossible to believe that an action of such magnitude 360 00:34:45,720 --> 00:34:48,580 as the assassination of the leader of the opposition, 361 00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:51,540 a few hundred yards from the Kremlin wall, 362 00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:55,860 could have been carried out on somebody's own initiative 363 00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:57,580 without coordination from the very top. 364 00:34:57,640 --> 00:34:59,180 I find that absolutely impossible to believe. 365 00:34:59,240 --> 00:35:02,580 (CROWD CHANTS) 366 00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:06,460 Every year around the date of the assassination of Boris, 367 00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:08,460 there are marches of remembrance held in Moscow. 368 00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:11,660 Thousands of people come to the streets to pay their respects. 369 00:35:11,720 --> 00:35:16,700 Many of us went to the bridge and the spot of the murder 370 00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:20,260 to lay some flowers and it was just, of course as you can imagine, 371 00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:22,420 a mountain of flowers on that particular day. 372 00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:27,460 (HELICOPTER WHIRRS) 373 00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:32,180 Then we saw a government helicopter flying by 374 00:35:32,240 --> 00:35:36,540 and intentionally lowering itself just over that spot with the flowers 375 00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:39,620 so the rotor and the wind would throw everything away. 376 00:35:47,240 --> 00:35:49,620 It's not enough for them to kill the man, 377 00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:51,580 they're trying to kill the memory as well. 378 00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:02,780 I consider it be the greatest privilege of my life 379 00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:05,660 to have worked with him for more than 15 years. 380 00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:11,980 Safety's not the word we associate with how we feel about what we do. 381 00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:17,980 They've tried to kill me twice in the last five years. 382 00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:23,580 This is from the second poisoning. This is February 2017. 383 00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:26,100 And I am very fortunate to be sitting here and speaking to you, 384 00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:29,300 because I did have about 5% chance both times I was poisoned. 385 00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:33,460 Boris Nemtsov did not even have a 1% chance 386 00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:35,460 when they shot those bullets in his back 387 00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:37,180 on Bolshoy Moskvoretsky Bridge. 388 00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:43,340 (JET ENGINES WHINE) 389 00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:29,900 OSTROVSKY: In Putin's mind, he is now engaged in this huge global battle 390 00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:33,220 against American Western dominance. 391 00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:35,020 I don't think he cares, frankly, 392 00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:38,860 I don't think he cares about Russia's relationship with the West anymore. 393 00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:42,140 You get to the point of sort of escalation of conflict 394 00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:44,940 and you just slam the door and say, "Well, you know what? Fuck you." 395 00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:50,180 KENDALL: If you're Mr Putin and you're looking at Europe now, 396 00:37:50,240 --> 00:37:53,140 you're probably feeling pretty pleased with yourself. 397 00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:57,260 Europe looks weak, and the United States too. 398 00:37:57,320 --> 00:38:00,300 And we, Russia, like to think we look strong. 399 00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:02,900 We are now going to overtake you, 400 00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:05,260 just as China is going to overtake you. 401 00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:06,780 It's a new world, it's a different world. 402 00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:09,660 It's a non-Western world, and we're part of it. 403 00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:38,260 So why are we now seeing sort of mini Putins springing up? 404 00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:43,460 You now, Erdogan, President of the Philippines and so on. 405 00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:49,300 Well, maybe it's partly because we are living in very uncertain times. 406 00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:51,580 People are less sure about their identities 407 00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:54,740 and the identities of their communities around them. 408 00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:57,820 There's also the rise of automation, which is threatening people's jobs. 409 00:38:57,880 --> 00:39:01,100 And so actually what a populist leader offers you, 410 00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:05,140 which is a slightly nostalgic, very clearly defined, 411 00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:09,620 slightly assertive, let's circle the wagons kind of feel 412 00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:11,260 fits all those scenarios. 413 00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:13,860 (CHEERING) 414 00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:18,060 Putin was very nice to me. He said, "Donald Trump is a genius." 415 00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:20,220 Well, I'll take that, right? Not gonna... 416 00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:22,780 Hey, let me tell ya, he's not gettin' anything for it, OK? 417 00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:24,660 He said, "Donald Trump is a genius. 418 00:39:24,720 --> 00:39:27,740 "And Donald Trump is going to be the great leader of the party." 419 00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:29,300 So he said that. I don't know if he meant it. 420 00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:30,620 Probably did to be honest with you. 421 00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:32,540 He sees crowd like this, why not? 422 00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:46,300 In some ways Putin sees President Trump 423 00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:48,100 as someone he can manipulate. 424 00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:55,900 Our relationship has never been worse than it is now. 425 00:39:55,960 --> 00:40:01,820 However, that changed as of about four hours ago, 426 00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:04,100 I really believe that. 427 00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:06,180 President Putin, thank you very much. 428 00:40:06,240 --> 00:40:09,860 If you could have seen the cartoon balloon 429 00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:12,780 coming out of Putin's head at that moment, 430 00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:15,580 I think it would have read, "What an easy mark." 431 00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:23,780 It's clear to me that the Russians did in fact hack into the DNC. 432 00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:28,260 REPORTER: An ex-MI6 officer is understood to have 433 00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:30,140 compiled the report, 434 00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:32,700 which contains unverified allegations 435 00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:34,900 that Russian security officials 436 00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:38,020 have compromising material on the president elect. 437 00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:44,780 REPORTER: Was his victory tinged by Moscow's interference? 438 00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:48,100 Did his campaign collude with Putin? 439 00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:51,620 The Russians intended to meddle, and they meddled. 440 00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:54,620 REPORTER: Garbage online, much of it from Russia, 441 00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:56,260 and deliberately designed to cause trouble 442 00:40:56,320 --> 00:40:58,580 is evidently polluting public discourse. 443 00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:00,820 (CROWD CHANTS) What do we want? Brexit! 444 00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:02,300 When do we want it? Now! 445 00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:04,180 REPORTER: When will you release the Russian report? 446 00:41:04,240 --> 00:41:06,340 I...let me tell you... 447 00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:08,700 This is the report into whether or not there was Russian interference 448 00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:10,300 or any kind of influence. 449 00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:12,620 There is absolutely no evidence that I know of... 450 00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:14,620 If that's the case, then why not release it? 451 00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:21,540 MAN: It's the largest humanitarian disaster since World War Two. 452 00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:24,500 It could stop tomorrow morning 453 00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:28,460 if Russia were to behave according to any norm 454 00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:30,860 or any standard of decency. 455 00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:35,340 REPORTER: Moscow dismissed claims of civilian casualties 456 00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:36,980 as an information war. 457 00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:42,420 OSTROVSKY: Putin doesn't understand that Western societies 458 00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:45,460 do actually put life at the centre. 459 00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:48,620 That actually individual life of a person who has a name, 460 00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:52,180 has a family, has children, is the most important thing. 461 00:41:52,240 --> 00:41:55,060 And it will be always more important in Western politics 462 00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:58,300 than any great state interests. 463 00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:03,820 REPORTER: Counter terrorism officers have take charge 464 00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:06,780 of the investigation into the suspected poisoning 465 00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:11,060 of a former Russian agent and his daughter in Salisbury on Sunday. 466 00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:15,460 Sergei Skripal had been convicted in Russia 12 years ago 467 00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:17,700 of passing secrets to MI6. 468 00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:21,820 Well, in Moscow, the Russian government has vehemently denied 469 00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:23,620 any suggestion of involvement. 470 00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:51,260 Some people might say a human life is worth more than five pennies. 471 00:42:56,400 --> 00:42:59,100 Police say, "Shocking and utterly appalling" 472 00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:01,700 that a woman has died after being exposed to a nerve agent 473 00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:02,780 in Wiltshire. 474 00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:07,220 Dawn Sturgess was contaminated not far from where a former Russian spy 475 00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:09,420 and his daughter were poisoned in March. 476 00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:12,460 GALEOTTI: I honestly think as far as Putin's concerned, 477 00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:14,780 this is just one of the casualties of war. 478 00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:16,460 People will die. 479 00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:18,140 That's the way wars are. 480 00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:21,500 She was an unfortunate person, in the wrong place at the wrong time. 481 00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:24,580 REPORTER: Dawn Sturgess was a mother of three. 482 00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:28,260 Today, they and her parents are mourning her. 483 00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:33,660 (BEEP) 484 00:43:33,720 --> 00:43:34,900 (CAMERA SHUTTERS CLICK) 485 00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:30,620 FRIED: Once you have been king 486 00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:36,020 and done the things you've done in order to stay king, 487 00:45:36,080 --> 00:45:37,500 you can't retire. 488 00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:44,500 There's no rule of law in Russia. 489 00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:45,980 Putin's made sure of that. 490 00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:49,500 He has used the absence of the rule of law to sustain himself in power 491 00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:51,220 and punish his enemies. 492 00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:56,660 He thinks he can have a nice retirement? 493 00:45:56,720 --> 00:45:58,660 You think? really? 494 00:46:53,160 --> 00:46:56,220 Captions by Red Bee Media 495 00:46:56,280 --> 00:46:59,900 Copyright Australian Broadcasting Corporation 41448

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