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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:25,046 --> 00:00:28,701 - I've been an outlaw ever since I was born. 2 00:00:28,832 --> 00:00:31,748 I went to reform school when I was about ten. 3 00:00:31,878 --> 00:00:34,142 And I learned to box and cry, 4 00:00:34,272 --> 00:00:35,708 and I learned to do all the things 5 00:00:35,839 --> 00:00:38,798 that you do in reform school. 6 00:00:38,929 --> 00:00:41,366 I escaped there a bunch of times and I went to prison, 7 00:00:41,497 --> 00:00:44,152 and I learned everything that you do in prison. 8 00:00:44,282 --> 00:00:45,544 And I talked to all the guys 9 00:00:45,675 --> 00:00:47,329 and asked them everything they knew. 10 00:00:47,459 --> 00:00:50,158 And they told me, sincerity and honesty will do it. 11 00:00:50,288 --> 00:00:51,811 It'll trick them every time. 12 00:00:51,942 --> 00:00:53,857 And then I went outside, 13 00:00:53,987 --> 00:00:55,511 and all these little kids got a hold of me and aid, 14 00:00:55,641 --> 00:00:57,513 "We want to stop the Vietnam War, and we want to do this." 15 00:00:57,643 --> 00:00:59,167 What? there was a war? I don't know what's happening. 16 00:00:59,297 --> 00:01:01,386 I've been in jail all my life. 17 00:01:01,517 --> 00:01:03,388 You ever see me in vocational training? Rehabilitation? 18 00:01:03,519 --> 00:01:05,173 They never planned no rehabilitation. 19 00:01:05,303 --> 00:01:06,652 I sweep the floor in the kitchen, 20 00:01:06,783 --> 00:01:09,264 go out and play handball. 21 00:01:09,394 --> 00:01:11,875 I'm still ten years old in your world. 22 00:01:12,005 --> 00:01:14,095 In your world, I'm still a kid. 23 00:02:17,332 --> 00:02:18,637 - Now at this point, 24 00:02:18,768 --> 00:02:20,422 we are going to leave Golden Gate Park 25 00:02:20,552 --> 00:02:24,513 to go into, I think a slight sojourn 26 00:02:24,643 --> 00:02:28,604 through the Haight-Ashbury District of San Francisco. 27 00:02:28,734 --> 00:02:31,259 This is the new avant-garde 28 00:02:31,389 --> 00:02:33,826 left bank area of San Francisco, 29 00:02:33,957 --> 00:02:36,089 which has evolved and developed over the past number of years. 30 00:02:37,830 --> 00:02:40,790 In fact, I would say that the last 18 months 31 00:02:40,920 --> 00:02:45,969 has seen a tremendous increase of the so-called hippies, 32 00:02:46,099 --> 00:02:50,234 who have invaded and live in this area. 33 00:02:50,365 --> 00:02:52,018 It is the belief of the people 34 00:02:52,149 --> 00:02:56,545 who live within the area that we, the middle class, 35 00:02:56,675 --> 00:03:00,375 or the upper class, have done a very, very poor job 36 00:03:00,505 --> 00:03:04,248 in running our government and our way of life. 37 00:03:07,512 --> 00:03:10,385 - Haight-Ashbury is where the action is. 38 00:03:10,515 --> 00:03:12,430 This is where the hippies began their march 39 00:03:12,561 --> 00:03:15,346 towards flower power and the quiet revolution, 40 00:03:15,477 --> 00:03:17,827 and a rallying point for the new and irreverent 41 00:03:17,957 --> 00:03:20,699 way of life of those who preach the dropout gospel. 42 00:03:23,485 --> 00:03:27,402 - In 1967, the American public 43 00:03:27,532 --> 00:03:31,580 first becomes aware of what is described 44 00:03:31,710 --> 00:03:34,757 as an aberration happening out in San Francisco. 45 00:03:36,976 --> 00:03:38,239 Because San Francisco has always been 46 00:03:38,369 --> 00:03:40,241 where the weirdos go. 47 00:03:45,376 --> 00:03:47,291 The idea was starting to spread 48 00:03:47,422 --> 00:03:49,380 among younger Americans, 49 00:03:49,511 --> 00:03:53,297 casting off supposedly the conservative chains 50 00:03:53,428 --> 00:03:56,344 of old American society. 51 00:03:56,474 --> 00:03:58,346 This current way of life we have, 52 00:03:58,476 --> 00:04:00,957 the way our parents are living is wrong. 53 00:04:01,087 --> 00:04:03,742 - The Haight-Ashbury community has created the council 54 00:04:03,873 --> 00:04:06,528 for a Summer of Love in San Francisco. 55 00:04:06,658 --> 00:04:10,358 - We affirm life, love, peace, and self-discovery. 56 00:04:10,488 --> 00:04:13,883 - People come here to love one another, 57 00:04:14,013 --> 00:04:16,277 and to be in love with each other. 58 00:04:18,496 --> 00:04:20,933 - I think in Charlie Manson's case, 59 00:04:21,064 --> 00:04:24,241 he really suffered from a lack of love. 60 00:04:24,372 --> 00:04:26,112 And then he got out in '67, 61 00:04:26,243 --> 00:04:28,680 and, wow, you know, it's a cultural revolution. 62 00:04:28,811 --> 00:04:30,943 I mean, it's free love, 63 00:04:31,074 --> 00:04:32,118 and everybody's talking about getting rid 64 00:04:32,249 --> 00:04:35,383 of your inhibitions, you know, and your fears, 65 00:04:35,513 --> 00:04:37,428 and so he just grew his hair long 66 00:04:37,559 --> 00:04:40,475 and started thinking about the role of a man, 67 00:04:40,605 --> 00:04:42,215 you know, in this new alternative culture. 68 00:04:45,131 --> 00:04:47,482 - It really was a perfect storm, 69 00:04:47,612 --> 00:04:49,527 all those elements that came together, 70 00:04:49,658 --> 00:04:54,924 the music, the drugs, free love and everything. 71 00:04:55,054 --> 00:04:58,362 The ideology that we thought we had discovered something new, 72 00:04:58,493 --> 00:05:01,452 that we, oh, we finally figured it out. 73 00:05:01,583 --> 00:05:04,150 - There was a feeling of-- that we were all 74 00:05:04,281 --> 00:05:06,849 brothers and sisters more than we felt before. 75 00:05:06,979 --> 00:05:08,894 And that might have been enhanced by acid. 76 00:05:12,245 --> 00:05:15,423 - LSD, lysergic acid diethylamide. 77 00:05:15,553 --> 00:05:18,469 Easy to make, incredibly potent. 78 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:22,430 A single ounce contains 300,000 doses, 79 00:05:22,560 --> 00:05:25,563 each dose drastic in its effects. 80 00:05:25,694 --> 00:05:29,611 - LSD is the most potent drug ever discovered. 81 00:05:29,741 --> 00:05:32,962 To understand how profound it is, 82 00:05:33,092 --> 00:05:35,530 you have to understand how it works in the brain. 83 00:05:35,660 --> 00:05:37,575 This is the brain. 84 00:05:37,706 --> 00:05:39,838 This is the white matter, 85 00:05:39,969 --> 00:05:42,493 the thinking part, consciousness. 86 00:05:42,624 --> 00:05:47,629 LSD comes into the brain, alters a switch, 87 00:05:47,759 --> 00:05:51,502 alters the electrical patterns going into the memory circuit. 88 00:05:51,633 --> 00:05:54,505 This has a very profound impact 89 00:05:54,636 --> 00:05:58,291 on those neuroanatomical connections, 90 00:05:58,422 --> 00:06:01,251 in which one sensory modality is translated into another. 91 00:06:04,297 --> 00:06:07,170 You see the universe in a way 92 00:06:07,300 --> 00:06:09,564 that you've never seen it before. 93 00:06:09,694 --> 00:06:12,088 It's like having, like, a religious vision. 94 00:06:12,218 --> 00:06:15,787 And you feel that you have broken on through 95 00:06:15,918 --> 00:06:18,224 to the other side. 96 00:06:20,357 --> 00:06:23,142 - The best, most direct, the most natural way 97 00:06:23,273 --> 00:06:25,623 to find God is through chemicals, 98 00:06:25,754 --> 00:06:28,017 and today, it's marijuana, LSD, peyote, mescaline, 99 00:06:28,147 --> 00:06:30,193 and many other mind-expanding drugs, 100 00:06:30,323 --> 00:06:33,979 for sure, coming along every month. 101 00:06:34,110 --> 00:06:35,546 - Some four million Americans 102 00:06:35,677 --> 00:06:38,288 are said to have taken LSD last year. 103 00:06:38,419 --> 00:06:42,074 Far more than a fad, it is to some a new religion. 104 00:06:42,205 --> 00:06:45,208 - It is a drug in which there is no knowledge 105 00:06:45,338 --> 00:06:47,645 about the eventual harmful results. 106 00:06:47,776 --> 00:06:51,083 One individual can apparently escape with no problem. 107 00:06:51,214 --> 00:06:53,303 Others immediately have a great problem. 108 00:06:53,434 --> 00:06:55,653 There is a residual effect that this can come back 109 00:06:55,784 --> 00:06:58,264 with what might be permanent brain damage. 110 00:06:58,395 --> 00:07:01,398 Anyone that would engage in this or indulge in this 111 00:07:01,529 --> 00:07:02,443 is just a plain fool. 112 00:07:06,011 --> 00:07:08,492 - Across the bay in Berkeley, there was student unrest. 113 00:07:11,843 --> 00:07:14,977 College was the place to protest. 114 00:07:15,107 --> 00:07:17,762 And of all the places that this was happening, 115 00:07:17,893 --> 00:07:19,808 Berkeley was probably the greatest. 116 00:07:22,854 --> 00:07:24,856 - The feeling, the passion against the war 117 00:07:24,987 --> 00:07:28,207 was just ferocious. 118 00:07:28,338 --> 00:07:31,167 Every night, the network leading anchor people, 119 00:07:31,297 --> 00:07:35,563 giving you a death toll of the dead Americans in Vietnam. 120 00:07:35,693 --> 00:07:37,608 - And the figures for last week 121 00:07:37,739 --> 00:07:39,523 reflected the sharp increase in the fighting. 122 00:07:39,654 --> 00:07:41,569 408 Americans were killed, 123 00:07:41,699 --> 00:07:43,005 the highest number since the end 124 00:07:43,135 --> 00:07:44,572 of the enemy's May offensive. 125 00:07:44,702 --> 00:07:47,139 - Americans dying for who knew why. 126 00:07:49,751 --> 00:07:53,450 - And this is where we find Charlie Manson moving. 127 00:07:53,581 --> 00:07:56,497 He ends up in Berkeley. 128 00:07:58,673 --> 00:08:00,588 And he would be perfect 129 00:08:00,718 --> 00:08:02,546 fitting into the anti-war demonstrations, 130 00:08:02,677 --> 00:08:06,158 to the feminists. 131 00:08:06,289 --> 00:08:09,292 Except he didn't care about any god damn war overseas. 132 00:08:09,422 --> 00:08:10,946 If blacks and women were oppressed, 133 00:08:11,076 --> 00:08:12,687 he thought that was great. 134 00:08:12,817 --> 00:08:14,515 That's the way the world's supposed to work. 135 00:08:14,645 --> 00:08:17,300 Free love, that screwed him up. 136 00:08:17,430 --> 00:08:19,084 How can you be a pimp if everybody 137 00:08:19,215 --> 00:08:21,043 can get laid for nothing? 138 00:08:21,173 --> 00:08:23,654 So Charlie's out of his element in Berkeley, 139 00:08:23,785 --> 00:08:27,702 but he does home in on the one thing. 140 00:08:27,832 --> 00:08:31,314 You've got young people who feel alienated. 141 00:08:31,444 --> 00:08:34,535 They don't feel like they belong. 142 00:08:38,364 --> 00:08:41,280 Mary Brunner's a librarian in Berkeley. 143 00:08:41,411 --> 00:08:43,718 She's out of place there. 144 00:08:43,848 --> 00:08:46,068 Instead of wearing sort of the hippie garb, 145 00:08:46,198 --> 00:08:48,592 she's wearing blouses buttoned up to the neck. 146 00:08:48,723 --> 00:08:50,159 She's from the Midwest. 147 00:08:50,289 --> 00:08:52,074 Charlie can tell she's uncomfortable. 148 00:08:52,204 --> 00:08:55,164 When he meets her, she's walking her dog. 149 00:08:55,294 --> 00:08:59,211 And Charlie makes inroads with her by fussing over the pet. 150 00:08:59,342 --> 00:09:01,083 They start talking, 151 00:09:01,213 --> 00:09:02,606 he's using all the Dale Carnegie techniques. 152 00:09:02,737 --> 00:09:04,216 They're becoming friends, 153 00:09:04,347 --> 00:09:05,870 and Charlie just happens to mention 154 00:09:06,001 --> 00:09:08,656 he doesn't have any place to stay right now. 155 00:09:08,786 --> 00:09:10,222 Mary says, as he knew she would, 156 00:09:10,353 --> 00:09:13,486 "Well, you can stay at my place for a couple nights." 157 00:09:13,617 --> 00:09:17,360 Once he's there, he goes about talking his way into her bed. 158 00:09:17,490 --> 00:09:19,754 Then Mary gets the idea this is a love affair. 159 00:09:19,884 --> 00:09:22,234 It's her and Charlie. 160 00:09:22,365 --> 00:09:24,715 So she's gonna work and make the money, 161 00:09:24,846 --> 00:09:26,761 and Charlie will go out during the day 162 00:09:26,891 --> 00:09:29,415 and work on his music and do Charlie things. 163 00:09:29,546 --> 00:09:33,289 She soon sees that he's bringing girls back, 164 00:09:33,419 --> 00:09:35,073 but he's telling her, "But you can't get upset about this. 165 00:09:35,204 --> 00:09:37,119 "Nobody's body is their own. 166 00:09:37,249 --> 00:09:39,469 We're just--we're just doing the natural thing." 167 00:09:39,600 --> 00:09:41,558 She gradually sees she's gonna have to share Charlie. 168 00:09:46,911 --> 00:09:49,827 - Charlie Manson came to the Haight-Ashbury 169 00:09:49,958 --> 00:09:52,961 during that transitional period, 170 00:09:53,091 --> 00:09:56,094 when things were getting, you know, harder and meaner. 171 00:09:58,140 --> 00:09:59,881 Charlie took LSD. 172 00:10:00,011 --> 00:10:02,492 He'd become part of that culture. 173 00:10:02,623 --> 00:10:04,189 - So I went down and I looked around and I said, 174 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:05,843 "Hey, this is love here." 175 00:10:05,974 --> 00:10:07,715 All I want is the little girls. 176 00:10:07,845 --> 00:10:09,586 They picked me up, 16-year-old kid. 177 00:10:09,717 --> 00:10:10,848 I said, "Where you sleep?" 178 00:10:10,979 --> 00:10:12,371 He says, "Wherever I lay down." 179 00:10:12,502 --> 00:10:14,460 I said, "Well, don't you have to have an apartment?" 180 00:10:14,591 --> 00:10:15,984 And he said, "No, I sleep in the park." 181 00:10:16,114 --> 00:10:17,942 I said, "How do you do that?" He said, "Sleeping bag." 182 00:10:18,073 --> 00:10:18,813 I said, "Is that right? What do you eat?" 183 00:10:18,943 --> 00:10:20,423 He said, "Food." 184 00:10:20,553 --> 00:10:21,729 I said, "Man, where do you get it?" 185 00:10:21,859 --> 00:10:22,686 He said, "Wherever I can." 186 00:10:22,817 --> 00:10:24,383 I said, "Don't you have a job?" 187 00:10:24,514 --> 00:10:27,125 And he laughed at me and said, "No, we're now the Diggers." 188 00:10:27,256 --> 00:10:28,953 - The Diggers, adopting the name 189 00:10:29,084 --> 00:10:31,739 of a Christian society of Cromwellian England, 190 00:10:31,869 --> 00:10:34,219 are the conscience of the hippies, 191 00:10:34,350 --> 00:10:36,352 who find dirt and disorder appealing, 192 00:10:36,482 --> 00:10:39,137 and only work when they must. 193 00:10:39,268 --> 00:10:40,922 - A group of compatible hippies, 194 00:10:41,052 --> 00:10:43,402 sharing their rice and beans, 195 00:10:43,533 --> 00:10:45,187 and hepatitis and venereal disease. 196 00:10:47,929 --> 00:10:50,322 - The diggers decided to feed the street kids. 197 00:10:50,453 --> 00:10:52,150 We had to wind up sending our women 198 00:10:52,281 --> 00:10:55,153 holding babies to the farmer's market, 199 00:10:55,284 --> 00:10:56,764 and the old Italians would give them 200 00:10:56,894 --> 00:10:59,897 all the day-old food right that day. 201 00:11:00,028 --> 00:11:01,725 And that night, anyone who showed up with a bowl 202 00:11:01,856 --> 00:11:05,033 and a spoon could get fed. 203 00:11:05,163 --> 00:11:09,211 We set up free stores which had clothes, tools, 204 00:11:09,341 --> 00:11:12,388 televisions, bicycles, everything worked. 205 00:11:12,518 --> 00:11:16,348 And the supposition was, why do you want to get a job 206 00:11:16,479 --> 00:11:20,918 and become an employee to make the money to be a consumer? 207 00:11:21,049 --> 00:11:23,791 We'll give you the shit. Now what do you want to do? 208 00:11:23,921 --> 00:11:27,446 What are you gonna do with your life? 209 00:11:27,577 --> 00:11:31,189 These were America's children. 210 00:11:31,320 --> 00:11:33,844 And they were runaways, 211 00:11:33,975 --> 00:11:35,498 because a lot of the people who came back 212 00:11:35,628 --> 00:11:37,413 from World War II had PTSD, 213 00:11:37,543 --> 00:11:40,372 and it was undiagnosed. 214 00:11:40,503 --> 00:11:42,853 And they were drinking themselves into coma, 215 00:11:42,984 --> 00:11:46,552 they were beating their kids or beating their wives. 216 00:11:46,683 --> 00:11:49,642 In the '50s, it was not a lot of fun for a lot of people. 217 00:11:52,080 --> 00:11:54,865 And I think the kids who left those families, 218 00:11:54,996 --> 00:11:56,780 they were looking for something, 219 00:11:56,911 --> 00:11:59,348 because life wasn't working. 220 00:11:59,478 --> 00:12:01,306 And they were looking for guidance 221 00:12:01,437 --> 00:12:02,873 wherever they could find it. 222 00:12:03,004 --> 00:12:06,572 And anybody with a lot of charisma 223 00:12:06,703 --> 00:12:10,925 and the ability to rap could swing somebody. 224 00:12:15,668 --> 00:12:18,846 - ♪ Your home is where you're happy ♪ 225 00:12:18,976 --> 00:12:22,153 ♪ It's not where you're not free ♪ 226 00:12:22,284 --> 00:12:25,374 - Everybody's talking to gurus, 227 00:12:25,504 --> 00:12:29,160 great philosophers who can teach you how to live, 228 00:12:29,291 --> 00:12:33,034 if only you will follow them. 229 00:12:33,164 --> 00:12:36,167 And in San Francisco, in Golden Gate Park, 230 00:12:36,298 --> 00:12:38,126 any time of the day or night, 231 00:12:38,256 --> 00:12:42,391 there's dozens of people proclaiming themselves gurus. 232 00:12:42,521 --> 00:12:46,874 - We're lost in a beautiful energy, an energy of life. 233 00:12:47,004 --> 00:12:49,572 - Charlie is not some great philosopher. 234 00:12:51,269 --> 00:12:53,532 But from his pimp days, 235 00:12:53,663 --> 00:12:55,447 he knows how to recognize kids, 236 00:12:55,578 --> 00:12:59,408 particularly young girls, that might be seduced 237 00:12:59,538 --> 00:13:03,412 in the right ways if only he can learn them. 238 00:13:03,542 --> 00:13:07,938 And so, he hangs around Golden Gate Park listening to gurus. 239 00:13:08,069 --> 00:13:09,461 - ...might kill a fly. 240 00:13:09,592 --> 00:13:11,986 And we love all that energy, 241 00:13:12,116 --> 00:13:15,990 we'll love life so much that we'll never die, 242 00:13:16,120 --> 00:13:20,646 because you'll be so sure that you're part of God. 243 00:13:20,777 --> 00:13:23,824 - The standard message that all of these gurus said 244 00:13:23,954 --> 00:13:25,564 was society is corrupt. 245 00:13:25,695 --> 00:13:28,959 You need to drop out of society 246 00:13:29,090 --> 00:13:33,007 and become involved in this alternate reality. 247 00:13:33,137 --> 00:13:36,793 - Drop out of high school, drop out of college. 248 00:13:39,404 --> 00:13:43,365 Drop out of graduate school. 249 00:13:43,495 --> 00:13:47,848 Turn on, tune in, drop out. 250 00:13:51,982 --> 00:13:54,593 - These gurus, however, 251 00:13:54,724 --> 00:13:58,032 controlled the ultimate reality. 252 00:13:58,162 --> 00:14:00,512 - Don't think in right and wrong, just think in truth. 253 00:14:00,643 --> 00:14:04,038 All the answers are there. There are no big answers. 254 00:14:04,168 --> 00:14:05,909 All the big colleges that we've been building, 255 00:14:06,040 --> 00:14:07,606 that's taking people the other way. 256 00:14:07,737 --> 00:14:09,870 The smartest people in the world 257 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:12,394 are really the most cut off. 258 00:14:12,524 --> 00:14:15,223 It's the common people, man, with soul. 259 00:14:19,531 --> 00:14:23,492 - Charlie used a combination of sort of psychological ploys. 260 00:14:23,622 --> 00:14:26,103 Your families don't understand you. 261 00:14:26,234 --> 00:14:28,497 I'm the only one that loves you. 262 00:14:28,627 --> 00:14:32,893 Come with me and be part of a real family. 263 00:14:33,023 --> 00:14:35,243 Judicious use of drugs, 264 00:14:35,373 --> 00:14:38,507 making sure that the kids were high a lot of the time. 265 00:14:38,637 --> 00:14:41,989 And he gradually started a little group, 266 00:14:42,119 --> 00:14:46,428 beginning with Mary Brunner, adding Lynette Fromme, 267 00:14:46,558 --> 00:14:49,518 who was a runaway that he met in Venice, California. 268 00:14:49,648 --> 00:14:53,217 Patricia Krenwinkel, a sad sort of case 269 00:14:53,348 --> 00:14:54,915 who was living in a sort of chaotic situation 270 00:14:55,045 --> 00:14:57,134 with her sister 271 00:14:57,265 --> 00:15:00,094 and was met and seduced by Charlie. 272 00:15:00,224 --> 00:15:03,488 And then his first real find, Susan Atkins, 273 00:15:03,619 --> 00:15:05,534 who Charlie particularly cherished 274 00:15:05,664 --> 00:15:08,189 because she was a very attractive girl, 275 00:15:08,319 --> 00:15:10,974 and he could use her as sort of sexual bait 276 00:15:11,105 --> 00:15:14,499 to try to get men into his group. 277 00:15:14,630 --> 00:15:18,590 - He went in, gave him LSD, had sex with the girls, 278 00:15:18,721 --> 00:15:22,072 talked about this alternate vision was the real vision, 279 00:15:22,203 --> 00:15:24,074 and Charlie was the master. 280 00:15:24,205 --> 00:15:27,077 But he also took LSD 281 00:15:27,208 --> 00:15:30,646 and had this altered consciousness experience 282 00:15:30,776 --> 00:15:32,909 and believed his philosophy. 283 00:15:35,868 --> 00:15:38,915 - There was a free clinic in Haight-Ashbury 284 00:15:39,046 --> 00:15:40,743 for the hippies who were sick 285 00:15:40,873 --> 00:15:42,658 and didn't have hospitals to go to. 286 00:15:42,788 --> 00:15:45,487 - Greg, come on over here. 287 00:15:45,617 --> 00:15:47,619 - Bad drug trips led many in the Haight 288 00:15:47,750 --> 00:15:51,101 to Dr. David Smith's free clinic for treatment. 289 00:15:51,232 --> 00:15:53,147 - One thing that people don't realize is that 290 00:15:53,277 --> 00:15:56,411 the Haight-Ashbury is a symptom, not a cause. 291 00:15:56,541 --> 00:16:00,632 - The clinic opened in June of '67. 292 00:16:00,763 --> 00:16:05,768 I think we saw 25,000 patients the first year. 293 00:16:05,898 --> 00:16:08,379 And into that scene came the Manson Family. 294 00:16:08,510 --> 00:16:10,164 Their place where they lived 295 00:16:10,294 --> 00:16:12,035 was right around the block on Cole Street, 296 00:16:12,166 --> 00:16:14,124 just two blocks from our clinic. 297 00:16:14,255 --> 00:16:18,041 Manson was a fairly well-known individual. 298 00:16:18,172 --> 00:16:20,652 When they came to our clinic in '67 299 00:16:20,783 --> 00:16:25,657 for medical reasons, it was really interesting, 300 00:16:25,788 --> 00:16:29,226 almost creepy how much control he had over them. 301 00:16:29,357 --> 00:16:32,969 But if you see something creepy in a weird environment, 302 00:16:33,100 --> 00:16:37,626 you don't think it's that weird. 303 00:16:37,756 --> 00:16:40,977 What I heard was that he was recruiting 304 00:16:41,108 --> 00:16:43,153 in the neighborhood, 305 00:16:43,284 --> 00:16:45,590 but there was a lot of recruitment going on 306 00:16:45,721 --> 00:16:46,983 by a number of different people. 307 00:16:47,114 --> 00:16:50,856 It was kind of like competing cults. 308 00:16:50,987 --> 00:16:54,512 - That was a problem for Charlie, because essentially, 309 00:16:54,643 --> 00:16:58,734 he's competing with all the other gurus. 310 00:16:58,864 --> 00:17:02,607 So he had to set up something that was different. 311 00:17:02,738 --> 00:17:05,262 Charlie still wanted to be a rock and roll star, 312 00:17:05,393 --> 00:17:07,003 and intended to make that happen. 313 00:17:17,405 --> 00:17:20,234 - By the time he spent a couple of months 314 00:17:20,364 --> 00:17:23,106 in San Francisco, he had his little entourage. 315 00:17:23,237 --> 00:17:26,109 Charlie loaded his girls in the bus, 316 00:17:26,240 --> 00:17:28,024 and off he went on his merry way 317 00:17:28,155 --> 00:17:30,461 from San Francisco down to L.A. 318 00:17:54,355 --> 00:17:57,488 - KHJ Weather. 319 00:17:57,619 --> 00:17:59,795 - Look for sunny skies today with a high of 95 downtown, 320 00:17:59,925 --> 00:18:01,710 up to 105 in the valleys, 321 00:18:01,840 --> 00:18:04,626 and 80 at the beaches, light to moderate smog. 322 00:18:09,457 --> 00:18:12,199 - No two people are alike and no two communities either, 323 00:18:12,329 --> 00:18:14,853 but the people and the community of Topanga Canyon 324 00:18:14,984 --> 00:18:17,421 are even more different than most. 325 00:18:30,782 --> 00:18:32,349 - Everybody up here has kind of got 326 00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:34,743 an individualistic trip going, you know? 327 00:18:34,873 --> 00:18:36,658 They like to get out in the sunshine 328 00:18:36,788 --> 00:18:38,268 and take off their clothes, 329 00:18:38,399 --> 00:18:41,576 and groove with the trees, and paint their paintings, 330 00:18:41,706 --> 00:18:44,187 and vote for Goldwater if they want to. 331 00:18:44,318 --> 00:18:46,885 - I mean, you can't really help 332 00:18:47,016 --> 00:18:48,583 but be on a good trip up here, 333 00:18:48,713 --> 00:18:50,237 because it's so beautiful. 334 00:18:50,367 --> 00:18:52,500 The true hippies are the people 335 00:18:52,630 --> 00:18:54,937 that just live the way that life is really meant to be 336 00:18:55,067 --> 00:18:57,157 without really materialistic things, 337 00:18:57,287 --> 00:18:58,332 and they're very happy. 338 00:18:58,462 --> 00:19:00,203 They get along very well without any money. 339 00:19:00,334 --> 00:19:02,074 Well, sometimes it gets kind of rough. 340 00:19:12,041 --> 00:19:16,872 - Hippie tribes gather 20,000 strong for a love-in. 341 00:19:17,002 --> 00:19:20,354 The new waves come bearing beads and blossoms and bells, 342 00:19:20,484 --> 00:19:24,271 looking for new experience and new magic. 343 00:19:24,401 --> 00:19:27,187 - When my parents starting tuning on and tuning in, 344 00:19:27,317 --> 00:19:29,319 at the same time, 345 00:19:29,450 --> 00:19:31,713 there started to be a group of people 346 00:19:31,843 --> 00:19:33,976 that would go to Griffith Park, 347 00:19:34,106 --> 00:19:39,329 and, you know, with tie-dyed shirts and flags and drums. 348 00:19:39,460 --> 00:19:43,768 They called it a be-in, so people would just go and be. 349 00:19:43,899 --> 00:19:45,857 And my dad and a couple of the guys 350 00:19:45,988 --> 00:19:48,382 decided that they were gonna do the drop out thing, 351 00:19:48,512 --> 00:19:51,298 and got bread trucks, converted them campers, 352 00:19:51,428 --> 00:19:55,302 and we had a big yard sale and sold everything, 353 00:19:55,432 --> 00:19:57,565 and in September, we went on down the road. 354 00:20:03,788 --> 00:20:06,356 And we ended up at the Hog Farm, 355 00:20:06,487 --> 00:20:10,142 this commune. 356 00:20:10,273 --> 00:20:12,362 It really was a hog farm. 357 00:20:12,493 --> 00:20:15,147 They painted the pigs, they rode the pigs. 358 00:20:15,278 --> 00:20:17,802 There was no electricity. 359 00:20:17,933 --> 00:20:21,328 My dad put a big geodesic dome on the hill, 360 00:20:21,458 --> 00:20:25,332 and they would have these "om" circles. 361 00:20:25,462 --> 00:20:27,551 And there was lots of characters. 362 00:20:30,119 --> 00:20:33,383 It wasn't too many days later that the leader, 363 00:20:33,514 --> 00:20:36,299 Hugh Romney, and his wife Bonnie Jean, 364 00:20:36,430 --> 00:20:38,388 came and had a little talk with me, 365 00:20:38,519 --> 00:20:40,434 letting me know that they were uncomfortable 366 00:20:40,564 --> 00:20:43,001 with my being there because I was jailbait. 367 00:20:43,132 --> 00:20:46,527 I was a sexually active, you know, 14-year-old, 368 00:20:46,657 --> 00:20:52,054 so they arranged for friends to come and talk me 369 00:20:52,184 --> 00:20:55,144 into going to live with them, which I did. 370 00:20:55,275 --> 00:20:58,800 And they invited me to come along with them to this party 371 00:20:58,930 --> 00:21:00,845 at the spiral staircase house 372 00:21:00,976 --> 00:21:03,108 to meet this groovy guy and his girls. 373 00:21:06,416 --> 00:21:08,679 These girls started coming over. 374 00:21:08,810 --> 00:21:11,334 "Diane, Diane, you're here. 375 00:21:11,465 --> 00:21:12,770 Charlie, Diane's here," you know? 376 00:21:12,901 --> 00:21:15,947 You know, and he was in the circle playing music, 377 00:21:16,078 --> 00:21:17,645 and he got up and offered me his root beer 378 00:21:17,775 --> 00:21:19,429 and gave me a big hug, 379 00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:21,866 and, you know, "Come, join us in the circle. 380 00:21:21,997 --> 00:21:23,738 We've been waiting for you." 381 00:21:29,657 --> 00:21:31,876 Charlie did take me to the bus that night 382 00:21:32,007 --> 00:21:33,965 and made love to me in a way 383 00:21:34,096 --> 00:21:36,664 that I had never experienced it before, 384 00:21:36,794 --> 00:21:39,188 and made me really feel very, you know, womanly. 385 00:21:43,671 --> 00:21:46,761 I felt totally accepted and totally loved and adored, 386 00:21:46,891 --> 00:21:49,372 and it was really magical. 387 00:21:49,503 --> 00:21:51,983 It just all ended up seeming, 388 00:21:52,114 --> 00:21:54,421 you know, like providence or something. 389 00:22:07,695 --> 00:22:10,524 - Paul Watkins showed up at the house in Topanga 390 00:22:10,654 --> 00:22:12,395 where he was told he could get good weed. 391 00:22:12,526 --> 00:22:15,006 And knocked at the door, 392 00:22:15,137 --> 00:22:18,662 and suddenly these half-naked girls said, "Hi, come in." 393 00:22:18,793 --> 00:22:21,186 And he thought, well, this is rather interesting. 394 00:22:21,317 --> 00:22:25,669 And he went in, he got his weed, and he met Manson. 395 00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:30,761 Paul was good-looking, very easy to talk to. 396 00:22:30,892 --> 00:22:34,939 So he became Manson's chief recruiter for young women. 397 00:22:35,070 --> 00:22:36,419 And he'd go out and pick up hitchhikers 398 00:22:36,550 --> 00:22:38,595 and bring them back again. 399 00:22:38,726 --> 00:22:42,120 Because Watkins looked very young, 400 00:22:42,251 --> 00:22:47,474 Manson suggested that he get himself some kind of fake ID 401 00:22:47,604 --> 00:22:49,432 and then enroll in high school, 402 00:22:49,563 --> 00:22:51,521 where he could actually look 403 00:22:51,652 --> 00:22:55,569 at possible contenders for the Family. 404 00:22:55,699 --> 00:22:57,179 And the girls brought in 405 00:22:57,309 --> 00:23:00,008 Angela Lansbury's daughter, Deidre. 406 00:23:00,138 --> 00:23:02,880 And Deidre, for one period of time, 407 00:23:03,011 --> 00:23:05,535 did get enamored with the Manson Family 408 00:23:05,666 --> 00:23:07,842 and allowed them to use her credit card. 409 00:23:07,972 --> 00:23:10,801 But then her mother, Angela, 410 00:23:10,932 --> 00:23:14,196 was worried about her daughter getting into drugs. 411 00:23:14,326 --> 00:23:17,242 She immediately grabbed her and sent her to Ireland. 412 00:23:19,114 --> 00:23:22,204 Bobby "Cupid" Beausoleil. 413 00:23:22,334 --> 00:23:24,685 A good-looking guy called Cupid, 414 00:23:24,815 --> 00:23:27,992 because he was a conquering hero with the girls. 415 00:23:28,123 --> 00:23:30,865 Son of a milkman in Santa Barbara, 416 00:23:30,995 --> 00:23:34,651 troubled kid, went to reform school, 417 00:23:34,782 --> 00:23:37,872 decided he was going to become a musician. 418 00:23:38,002 --> 00:23:39,874 - Beausoleil is a couple things 419 00:23:40,004 --> 00:23:42,572 that Charlie wants to be and is not. 420 00:23:42,703 --> 00:23:44,922 First of all, he's extremely good-looking, 421 00:23:45,053 --> 00:23:48,491 and he's got good-looking women following him. 422 00:23:48,622 --> 00:23:50,667 And Charlie doesn't have that. 423 00:23:50,798 --> 00:23:55,498 Second, Beausoleil is a better musician than Charlie. 424 00:23:55,629 --> 00:23:57,848 And he and Charlie even decided 425 00:23:57,979 --> 00:23:59,502 to be in a band together, 426 00:23:59,633 --> 00:24:01,635 and they played a couple gigs, 427 00:24:01,765 --> 00:24:02,940 and Charlie couldn't keep up with Bobby, 428 00:24:03,071 --> 00:24:04,942 and Bobby knew it. 429 00:24:05,073 --> 00:24:07,641 But they both could be of use to each other. 430 00:24:07,771 --> 00:24:09,381 - Charlie was a guy who marched to his own drummer, 431 00:24:09,512 --> 00:24:11,383 literally. 432 00:24:11,514 --> 00:24:13,124 When Charlie played music, 433 00:24:13,255 --> 00:24:17,215 his tempo and his rhythmic structure would shift, 434 00:24:17,346 --> 00:24:19,740 and he would do it deliberately. 435 00:24:19,870 --> 00:24:24,527 He didn't want to be in regimented time. 436 00:24:24,658 --> 00:24:26,834 He had an aversion to, you know, 437 00:24:26,964 --> 00:24:30,577 any sort of regimentation, and no doubt that had to do 438 00:24:30,707 --> 00:24:33,275 with having come out of an environment in prison 439 00:24:33,405 --> 00:24:36,365 where a lot of things were regimented. 440 00:24:44,721 --> 00:24:46,549 - The music scene had primarily 441 00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:48,551 been in New York City for rock and roll 442 00:24:48,682 --> 00:24:51,075 during the '50s and the early '60s, 443 00:24:51,206 --> 00:24:53,513 and it shifted to the west coast in 1964 444 00:24:53,643 --> 00:24:56,037 when the Beatles came out, 445 00:24:56,167 --> 00:24:58,692 because Capitol Records, their label, 446 00:24:58,822 --> 00:25:00,694 was near the corner of Hollywood and Vine. 447 00:25:00,824 --> 00:25:03,392 And Phil Spector had been making records in L.A. 448 00:25:03,523 --> 00:25:04,567 for a few years, 449 00:25:04,698 --> 00:25:06,830 and also the Beach Boys became, 450 00:25:06,961 --> 00:25:09,616 like, the most popular band in America at that time. 451 00:25:09,746 --> 00:25:12,096 The Beach Boys were like the only American group 452 00:25:12,227 --> 00:25:14,708 that kind of kept up with the Beatles. 453 00:25:14,838 --> 00:25:17,188 There was even a friendly rivalry between them. 454 00:25:17,319 --> 00:25:18,668 And then Dick Clark moved "American Bandstand" 455 00:25:18,799 --> 00:25:20,627 out to the west coast. 456 00:25:20,757 --> 00:25:22,716 Rock and roll was displacing movies 457 00:25:22,846 --> 00:25:24,892 as the most exciting thing happening in Hollywood 458 00:25:25,022 --> 00:25:28,722 during the middle '60s. 459 00:25:28,852 --> 00:25:31,333 The Sunset Strip was sort of like downtown 460 00:25:31,463 --> 00:25:33,509 for this burgeoning rock and roll scene. 461 00:25:36,251 --> 00:25:39,341 In 1964, the Whisky a Go Go opened. 462 00:25:39,471 --> 00:25:41,604 And before you know it, the Whisky a Go Go 463 00:25:41,735 --> 00:25:43,737 has got all the great groups, 464 00:25:43,867 --> 00:25:46,043 like Frank Zappa's Mothers of Invention, 465 00:25:46,174 --> 00:25:49,133 and Jim Morrison and his group, The Doors, 466 00:25:49,264 --> 00:25:51,571 and Buffalo Springfield with Neil Young and Stephen Stills, 467 00:25:51,701 --> 00:25:53,703 and Love with Arthur Lee 468 00:25:53,834 --> 00:25:55,836 and all his wild, psychedelic things. 469 00:25:55,966 --> 00:25:58,969 And eventually, Led Zeppelin would play there, 470 00:25:59,100 --> 00:26:00,928 and Cream would play there, and all the biggest groups. 471 00:26:05,236 --> 00:26:06,803 - The Whisky a Go Go had female deejays 472 00:26:06,934 --> 00:26:09,414 spinning records between the groups. 473 00:26:09,545 --> 00:26:11,634 They were in a glass booth above the dance floor, 474 00:26:11,765 --> 00:26:15,029 and they would dance to the records. 475 00:26:15,159 --> 00:26:17,988 One of the deejays, Joanie Labine, 476 00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:21,209 designed a fringe dress based on the flappers of the '20s, 477 00:26:21,339 --> 00:26:23,907 and paired it with white go-go boots. 478 00:26:27,868 --> 00:26:31,436 Producers hung out at the Whisky a Go Go too. 479 00:26:31,567 --> 00:26:34,222 Terry Melcher was a producer at Columbia Records. 480 00:26:34,352 --> 00:26:36,354 Melcher came from Hollywood royalty. 481 00:26:36,485 --> 00:26:38,400 He was Doris Day's son, and was good friends 482 00:26:38,530 --> 00:26:40,184 with Dennis Wilson of the Beach Boys, 483 00:26:40,315 --> 00:26:41,229 and he was working with some of 484 00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:43,535 the most influential bands of the time. 485 00:26:43,666 --> 00:26:47,801 - ♪ Eight miles high 486 00:26:47,931 --> 00:26:51,239 ♪ And when you touch down 487 00:26:51,369 --> 00:26:53,807 - His main group was The Byrds. 488 00:26:53,937 --> 00:26:56,723 Their anti-establishment and socially conscious lyrics 489 00:26:56,853 --> 00:26:59,813 became a new type of rock and roll, 490 00:26:59,943 --> 00:27:02,729 because everybody had bonded together through rock and roll 491 00:27:02,859 --> 00:27:05,470 as kids in the '50s, but during the '60s, 492 00:27:05,601 --> 00:27:08,386 they were dealing with the Vietnam War, civil rights, 493 00:27:08,517 --> 00:27:10,867 and the larger threat of nuclear weapons. 494 00:27:10,998 --> 00:27:13,870 So the music began to reflect that. 495 00:27:14,001 --> 00:27:17,657 All the groups that broke on the Sunset Strip in 1965 496 00:27:17,787 --> 00:27:20,616 and 1966 were getting huge. 497 00:27:20,747 --> 00:27:22,618 So producers like Terry Melcher 498 00:27:22,749 --> 00:27:24,664 were looking for new artists. 499 00:27:30,844 --> 00:27:32,672 And on to that scene comes Charlie, 500 00:27:32,802 --> 00:27:36,197 looking for a record deal. 501 00:27:36,327 --> 00:27:39,940 - Manson made it clear in his last years in prison 502 00:27:40,070 --> 00:27:44,466 that his goal was to be a professional musician. 503 00:27:44,596 --> 00:27:46,033 The last couple years of his sentence, 504 00:27:46,163 --> 00:27:48,426 he meets Phil Kaufman. 505 00:27:48,557 --> 00:27:51,691 Phil is in for a marijuana bust. 506 00:27:51,821 --> 00:27:53,867 - I was walking in the yard, 507 00:27:53,997 --> 00:27:56,304 and there was this guy playing a guitar, you know, 508 00:27:56,434 --> 00:27:57,392 and he's singing his song, he was singing... 509 00:27:57,522 --> 00:28:00,656 ♪ The shadow of your smile 510 00:28:00,787 --> 00:28:01,918 You know, a very popular song, 511 00:28:02,049 --> 00:28:03,790 and I thought he was quite good. 512 00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:05,705 I asked him what's going on and he said, 513 00:28:05,835 --> 00:28:07,837 "You know, I write songs, 514 00:28:07,968 --> 00:28:10,274 and, you know, I'm gonna be out of here soon." 515 00:28:10,405 --> 00:28:12,755 - Phil knew some people in L.A. 516 00:28:12,886 --> 00:28:14,801 who were in the music business. 517 00:28:14,931 --> 00:28:16,324 To Manson, that made Phil the perfect best friend 518 00:28:16,454 --> 00:28:19,370 he'd ever known. 519 00:28:19,501 --> 00:28:22,896 - Phil had given him the name of Gary Stromberg, 520 00:28:23,026 --> 00:28:25,986 who was a music producer at Universal Studios in L.A., 521 00:28:26,116 --> 00:28:28,728 and Stromberg invites him into the office 522 00:28:28,858 --> 00:28:31,165 to record a demo disc. 523 00:28:31,295 --> 00:28:34,734 - Hi, Charlie, baby. 524 00:28:34,864 --> 00:28:37,780 Okay. - Let's see. 525 00:28:37,911 --> 00:28:38,650 - Do whatever you feel like, man. 526 00:28:38,781 --> 00:28:41,479 - Yeah. 527 00:28:41,610 --> 00:28:43,481 If I can make myself nervous, 528 00:28:43,612 --> 00:28:47,224 I should be able to make myself un-nervous. 529 00:28:47,355 --> 00:28:48,835 It makes sense that it works both ways there. 530 00:28:48,965 --> 00:28:50,750 Let's see. 531 00:28:52,012 --> 00:28:56,451 ♪ I once knew a man 532 00:28:56,581 --> 00:29:01,935 ♪ So loved he was to be 533 00:29:02,065 --> 00:29:08,071 ♪ Now is forever lasting constant in the mind ♪ 534 00:29:08,202 --> 00:29:11,509 ♪ Illusions with memories scheming and alive ♪ 535 00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:14,861 ♪ In the mind all the time ♪ 536 00:29:14,991 --> 00:29:18,386 ♪ One and one are one if you find ♪ 537 00:29:18,516 --> 00:29:20,475 - He brought the girls, the Family with him, 538 00:29:20,605 --> 00:29:22,564 who have no musical talent, 539 00:29:22,694 --> 00:29:25,872 and they got to play drums and beat sticks, 540 00:29:26,002 --> 00:29:28,962 and, you know, impossible to record. 541 00:29:29,092 --> 00:29:30,920 And they dismissed him. 542 00:29:31,051 --> 00:29:32,835 They wouldn't touch it with a 10-foot pole. 543 00:29:32,966 --> 00:29:35,882 - ♪ He is your love 544 00:29:53,464 --> 00:29:56,598 - When I got out, this fellow I knew named Harold True 545 00:29:56,728 --> 00:29:58,948 took me to this house in Topanga Canyon. 546 00:29:59,079 --> 00:30:00,863 It was an abandoned house 547 00:30:00,994 --> 00:30:04,998 with no electricity and no plumbing. 548 00:30:05,128 --> 00:30:07,478 The first time that I actually met the girls, 549 00:30:07,609 --> 00:30:09,219 and it was all huggy-kissy, 550 00:30:09,350 --> 00:30:10,568 "Phil, oh, Phil. Hello, Phil! 551 00:30:10,699 --> 00:30:12,483 Welcome, Phil." I said, "Whoa." 552 00:30:12,614 --> 00:30:13,528 I just got out of prison. 553 00:30:13,658 --> 00:30:15,878 There's sex, and there's food, 554 00:30:16,009 --> 00:30:18,402 and there's hanging out with girls, 555 00:30:18,533 --> 00:30:20,622 and it was just an idyllic situation. 556 00:30:20,752 --> 00:30:24,017 We all took acid a lot, did a lot of that. 557 00:30:24,147 --> 00:30:28,456 And Charlie's music became his drug of choice 558 00:30:28,586 --> 00:30:31,415 to entice people. 559 00:30:31,546 --> 00:30:34,288 When a new girl would come, everybody'd sit around. 560 00:30:34,418 --> 00:30:36,856 He'd play his guitar and play his song, 561 00:30:36,986 --> 00:30:39,554 "Look at your Game Girl." 562 00:30:39,684 --> 00:30:43,384 - ♪ Look at your game girl 563 00:30:43,514 --> 00:30:46,039 ♪ What a mad delusion 564 00:30:46,169 --> 00:30:48,868 ♪ Living in that confusion 565 00:30:48,998 --> 00:30:51,653 ♪ Frustration and doubt 566 00:30:51,783 --> 00:30:55,700 ♪ Can you ever live without the game ♪ 567 00:30:55,831 --> 00:30:58,529 - You could see where it would be an enticement, you know? 568 00:30:58,660 --> 00:31:03,012 A girl lost, these people are all over her, hugging her, 569 00:31:03,143 --> 00:31:05,928 kissing her, combing her hair, and Charlie's singing to her. 570 00:31:06,059 --> 00:31:09,366 You know, it seemed like a good deal. 571 00:31:09,497 --> 00:31:12,282 - ♪ Sad game 572 00:31:20,508 --> 00:31:22,336 - I lived with Harold True, 573 00:31:22,466 --> 00:31:23,772 and when Phil got out of prison, 574 00:31:23,903 --> 00:31:26,906 we invited him to live with us up Los Feliz, on Waverly. 575 00:31:30,039 --> 00:31:32,128 The house is on a hill, 576 00:31:32,259 --> 00:31:34,565 and the front lawn is covered by hedges, 577 00:31:34,696 --> 00:31:36,698 so you can't really see until you get up there. 578 00:31:36,828 --> 00:31:38,308 And I look over, and I see all these fairies 579 00:31:38,439 --> 00:31:40,658 dancing on the front lawn. 580 00:31:40,789 --> 00:31:42,530 So Harold used to like to bring home 581 00:31:42,660 --> 00:31:44,662 the freaky freaks for our entertainment. 582 00:31:44,793 --> 00:31:45,794 So I thought this is another crew 583 00:31:45,925 --> 00:31:48,101 that Harold found and brought home, 584 00:31:48,231 --> 00:31:51,974 but it turned out to be Charlie and all his girls. 585 00:31:52,105 --> 00:31:55,369 - Harold True had a nice house, 586 00:31:55,499 --> 00:31:57,458 and we went over there and partied. 587 00:31:57,588 --> 00:32:00,940 He had always lots of grass, and sometimes he had some acid. 588 00:32:01,070 --> 00:32:02,985 And we'd just spend the night, 589 00:32:03,116 --> 00:32:05,031 or a couple nights there at his house, 590 00:32:05,161 --> 00:32:08,121 and he was just a friend of Charlie's. 591 00:32:08,251 --> 00:32:10,079 - Oh, I thought Charlie was just a great conman, 592 00:32:10,210 --> 00:32:11,994 a P.T. Barnum. 593 00:32:12,125 --> 00:32:14,649 I got the impression that he picked up 594 00:32:14,779 --> 00:32:18,609 a lot of things made from different people 595 00:32:18,740 --> 00:32:21,743 in Haight-Ashbury or around there and down. 596 00:32:21,873 --> 00:32:26,313 And then he put them in his repertoire. 597 00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:47,421 - One day we ended up on Leo Carrillo, 598 00:32:47,551 --> 00:32:49,597 Sycamore Canyon area, 599 00:32:49,727 --> 00:32:52,469 and we were gonna go farther in the woods, 600 00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:56,038 but the bus got bogged down in the mud or something, 601 00:32:56,169 --> 00:32:59,085 and we couldn't go any further. 602 00:32:59,215 --> 00:33:02,044 And we stopped in the woods somewhere, 603 00:33:02,175 --> 00:33:03,959 and we stayed there for a while. 604 00:33:07,310 --> 00:33:10,183 One night, the police came, and they arrested us all, 605 00:33:10,313 --> 00:33:12,141 and, you know, there was an article in the paper 606 00:33:12,272 --> 00:33:15,057 about the nine nude hippies that they found. 607 00:33:15,188 --> 00:33:17,625 I mean, we were sleeping in sleeping bags, 608 00:33:17,755 --> 00:33:21,063 and we slept in the nude, so yeah, we were nude, 609 00:33:21,194 --> 00:33:23,674 you know, when they arrested us. 610 00:33:23,805 --> 00:33:26,286 So we put our clothes on and for some reason I had, 611 00:33:26,416 --> 00:33:29,202 like, four tabs of acid, you know, in my pocket. 612 00:33:29,332 --> 00:33:31,378 And so I'd always heard, oh, if you get busted, 613 00:33:31,508 --> 00:33:33,467 swallow it, right? 614 00:33:33,597 --> 00:33:35,817 So I took four tabs of acid. 615 00:33:35,947 --> 00:33:40,778 And they took us to Ventura County Jail, 616 00:33:40,909 --> 00:33:44,086 and it ended up being a good trip. 617 00:33:46,219 --> 00:33:49,135 Every Beatles song that I'd ever heard 618 00:33:49,265 --> 00:33:52,225 just came flowing out of my mouth, 619 00:33:52,355 --> 00:33:54,488 and so I had everybody singing all the Beatles songs. 620 00:33:57,230 --> 00:33:59,884 We were only there for one night. 621 00:34:00,015 --> 00:34:03,584 We went to court the next day, and they released us all. 622 00:34:03,714 --> 00:34:05,107 It was a trespassing charge. 623 00:34:05,238 --> 00:34:08,067 And I think it was shortly after that 624 00:34:08,197 --> 00:34:11,113 that they found Spahn Ranch. 625 00:34:11,244 --> 00:34:12,419 Experimental Band's 626 00:34:14,899 --> 00:34:16,684 - ♪ San Francisco-- 627 00:34:16,814 --> 00:34:20,209 ♪ In L.A., no one's on the street ♪ 628 00:34:20,340 --> 00:34:25,040 ♪ Let's go off on our own in the country ♪ 629 00:34:27,608 --> 00:34:31,177 ♪ All our friends will be there ♪ 630 00:34:31,307 --> 00:34:34,615 ♪ No one will give us a hard time ♪ 631 00:34:34,745 --> 00:34:37,487 ♪ We can make it alone 632 00:34:37,618 --> 00:34:39,968 ♪ In the country 633 00:34:56,419 --> 00:34:59,814 - Spahn Ranch was out that long road out Topanga. 634 00:34:59,944 --> 00:35:01,816 It was dusty, it was dirty. 635 00:35:01,946 --> 00:35:04,123 There we oak trees, there was a little stream, 636 00:35:04,253 --> 00:35:05,602 and there was these funky old buildings, 637 00:35:05,733 --> 00:35:07,822 and the sets, the saloon, 638 00:35:07,952 --> 00:35:10,216 and the sheriff's office, and all this stuff. 639 00:35:10,346 --> 00:35:12,740 It really felt like another world up there, 640 00:35:12,870 --> 00:35:16,700 on the edge of the San Fernando Valley and L.A. 641 00:35:16,831 --> 00:35:18,006 It was perfect. 642 00:35:18,137 --> 00:35:22,315 It was really fantasyland, and just fit right in. 643 00:35:22,445 --> 00:35:25,840 - Charlie introduced us to the joys 644 00:35:25,970 --> 00:35:28,756 of dumpster diving behind the grocery stores. 645 00:35:28,886 --> 00:35:31,237 We had our favorite ones, because they had better food 646 00:35:31,367 --> 00:35:33,021 that they threw out that was still good. 647 00:35:36,285 --> 00:35:38,287 Charlie would tell us that needing food 648 00:35:38,418 --> 00:35:40,637 was just, like, our imagination. 649 00:35:40,768 --> 00:35:43,945 Air and water was enough. 650 00:35:44,075 --> 00:35:47,688 Then there was always, like, the evening get-together. 651 00:35:47,818 --> 00:35:49,907 Drugs were being smoked and taken. 652 00:35:52,954 --> 00:35:55,130 - Charlie builds a bonfire out in the middle of the yard, 653 00:35:55,261 --> 00:35:56,697 and he gets a guitar, 654 00:35:56,827 --> 00:35:58,960 and has everybody smoke marijuana, 655 00:35:59,090 --> 00:36:02,703 and gets them all stoned, and then they sing songs. 656 00:36:02,833 --> 00:36:07,186 One of Charlie's basic creeds is that there is no crime, 657 00:36:07,316 --> 00:36:10,450 there is no sin, that it's all just a game. 658 00:36:13,366 --> 00:36:15,629 And Charlie considers himself to be Jesus, 659 00:36:15,759 --> 00:36:18,501 the second coming of Christ. 660 00:36:18,632 --> 00:36:21,896 And he told me that I had to be me before I could be him, 661 00:36:22,026 --> 00:36:24,290 because he was a reflection of me, 662 00:36:24,420 --> 00:36:28,337 and he was only what I saw in myself. 663 00:36:28,468 --> 00:36:31,688 And that I was supposed to give up my world 664 00:36:31,819 --> 00:36:34,343 so that I could have his, 665 00:36:34,474 --> 00:36:38,347 and that by giving up, God would come through me, 666 00:36:38,478 --> 00:36:41,263 and I would just be a hole in the infinite, 667 00:36:41,394 --> 00:36:44,135 as he says he is. 668 00:36:46,834 --> 00:36:49,924 - Thank you. Hey, all right. 669 00:36:50,054 --> 00:36:53,188 - Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you. 670 00:36:53,319 --> 00:36:55,364 - In 1968, all of a sudden, 671 00:36:55,495 --> 00:36:57,627 Beach Boys find themselves out of sync with the times. 672 00:36:57,758 --> 00:36:59,238 - Thank you. 673 00:36:59,368 --> 00:37:01,979 - The perception of them in the public was, 674 00:37:02,110 --> 00:37:04,199 you know, they're not part of the counterculture 675 00:37:04,330 --> 00:37:06,636 on progressive rock radio. 676 00:37:06,767 --> 00:37:09,335 So they're all struggling. 677 00:37:09,465 --> 00:37:11,772 - Dennis, of course, I mean, he was drinking, 678 00:37:11,902 --> 00:37:16,516 and he was not really in control of himself. 679 00:37:16,646 --> 00:37:21,999 And somehow, he picked up Charles Manson's girls. 680 00:37:22,130 --> 00:37:24,219 - Ella Jo Bailey and Patricia Krenwinkel, 681 00:37:24,350 --> 00:37:25,786 they were hitchhiking, 682 00:37:25,916 --> 00:37:27,614 and Dennis Wilson picked them up 683 00:37:27,744 --> 00:37:29,920 and took them to his home. 684 00:37:30,051 --> 00:37:32,271 He just said, you know, 685 00:37:32,401 --> 00:37:34,229 "My house is your house" kind of thing. 686 00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:36,449 And they took him literally. 687 00:37:36,579 --> 00:37:39,843 Later on, he went to a recording session. 688 00:37:39,974 --> 00:37:42,890 - He came back at 2:00 in the morning 689 00:37:43,020 --> 00:37:46,589 and discovered that there was a bus parked in his driveway. 690 00:38:01,778 --> 00:38:05,391 And guess who greeted him at the front door of his mansion? 691 00:38:05,521 --> 00:38:08,307 Manson kissed Dennis Wilson's feet, 692 00:38:08,437 --> 00:38:10,352 and Dennis thought, oh, this is cool. 693 00:38:10,483 --> 00:38:12,876 And he told him to stay, and they stayed, 694 00:38:13,007 --> 00:38:16,576 and they provided Dennis and anybody else 695 00:38:16,706 --> 00:38:20,057 who came to Dennis's house with a ready supply of drugs, 696 00:38:20,188 --> 00:38:22,712 a ready supply of sex if they wanted it, 697 00:38:22,843 --> 00:38:26,890 and Dennis thought he was in Nirvana. 698 00:38:27,021 --> 00:38:30,459 - Dennis was rather a quiet individual, 699 00:38:30,590 --> 00:38:36,857 and he also had an affinity for finding the waifs 700 00:38:36,987 --> 00:38:39,033 and people that seemed to be misfits. 701 00:38:39,163 --> 00:38:41,905 They would all seem to find him. 702 00:38:42,036 --> 00:38:44,473 Charlie was able to manipulate him. 703 00:38:44,604 --> 00:38:46,910 Dennis was enamored with him 704 00:38:47,041 --> 00:38:50,958 and kind of took him under his wing. 705 00:38:51,088 --> 00:38:53,090 - Dennis Wilson liked to tell his pals, 706 00:38:53,221 --> 00:38:55,963 come along to my house to see Manson 707 00:38:56,093 --> 00:39:00,402 and these scantily-clad young women do their thing. 708 00:39:00,533 --> 00:39:02,883 It was a free show, and a freaky show, 709 00:39:03,013 --> 00:39:04,754 and Charlie had a captive audience 710 00:39:04,885 --> 00:39:06,452 at Dennis Wilson's house. 711 00:39:11,021 --> 00:39:13,372 A lot of people had to sit there 712 00:39:13,502 --> 00:39:16,331 and listen to Manson perform. 713 00:39:34,610 --> 00:39:39,485 - One day, Tex Watson, he's out hitchhiking, 714 00:39:39,615 --> 00:39:42,923 and is picked up by a guy he doesn't know, 715 00:39:43,053 --> 00:39:46,927 but it turns out to be Dennis Wilson. 716 00:39:47,057 --> 00:39:50,365 Wilson takes Tex to his house, and there's people there. 717 00:39:50,496 --> 00:39:52,802 It's Charlie and the girls. 718 00:39:52,933 --> 00:39:56,850 And by God, Tex, in his dope-addled brain, 719 00:39:56,980 --> 00:39:58,939 wants nothing more than to be 720 00:39:59,069 --> 00:40:01,202 an acolyte of this guy, Charlie, 721 00:40:01,332 --> 00:40:05,685 who's got girls that will do anything he tells them to do. 722 00:40:05,815 --> 00:40:08,339 Whatever Tex dreamed about finding in California, 723 00:40:08,470 --> 00:40:10,951 this was it. 724 00:40:11,081 --> 00:40:15,042 Growing up, Tex Watson was your quintessential 725 00:40:15,172 --> 00:40:17,958 Texas country good ol' boy. 726 00:40:18,088 --> 00:40:21,483 He lived in a little tiny town in east Texas. 727 00:40:21,614 --> 00:40:24,138 He was the kid that everybody else 728 00:40:24,268 --> 00:40:27,881 thought was gonna do great things. 729 00:40:28,011 --> 00:40:30,449 - He once taught Sunday school in this church, 730 00:40:30,579 --> 00:40:32,189 and he worked behind his father's 731 00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:34,975 country store counter across the street. 732 00:40:35,105 --> 00:40:36,542 He was the kind of boy a community like Copeville 733 00:40:36,672 --> 00:40:39,501 could be proud of. 734 00:40:39,632 --> 00:40:42,983 - Charles was above average, very definitely so. 735 00:40:43,113 --> 00:40:47,117 He excelled in football and basketball and track. 736 00:40:47,248 --> 00:40:48,989 He was well-liked by the student body, 737 00:40:49,119 --> 00:40:51,644 and he was very active in all kinds 738 00:40:51,774 --> 00:40:54,864 of extracurricular activities, you see. 739 00:40:57,171 --> 00:40:59,478 - He was one of the few who went off to college. 740 00:40:59,608 --> 00:41:02,132 But once he was there, he discovered drugs, 741 00:41:02,263 --> 00:41:04,961 and forgot about class. 742 00:41:05,092 --> 00:41:07,398 And Tex then announces he's going to Hollywood. 743 00:41:10,793 --> 00:41:13,579 He's working in a wig shop, sleeping on the floor, 744 00:41:13,709 --> 00:41:16,712 and smoking dope wherever he can get it. 745 00:41:16,843 --> 00:41:18,932 Charlie went through a series of people 746 00:41:19,062 --> 00:41:23,240 who were really Charlie's, you know, group captain. 747 00:41:23,371 --> 00:41:27,636 And Tex very much wanted to be that man. 748 00:41:27,767 --> 00:41:31,553 Charlie knew that in Watson, he had a piece of clay 749 00:41:31,684 --> 00:41:33,163 he could mold however he wanted 750 00:41:33,294 --> 00:41:36,297 whenever he felt like it. 751 00:41:42,216 --> 00:41:46,046 - I was living with Bobby in our teepee in Topanga Canyon. 752 00:41:46,176 --> 00:41:48,048 I like to take walks by myself, 753 00:41:48,178 --> 00:41:51,051 and I met up with Paul Watkins. 754 00:41:51,181 --> 00:41:53,401 He actually just handed me a joint, 755 00:41:53,532 --> 00:41:55,316 and I took a couple drags. 756 00:41:55,446 --> 00:41:56,491 And he said, do you want to see a really pretty place? 757 00:41:56,622 --> 00:41:58,667 And I said, sure. 758 00:41:58,798 --> 00:42:01,714 So we went to a waterfall and a pond, 759 00:42:01,844 --> 00:42:05,195 and we went skinny dipping, and we ended up having sex. 760 00:42:05,326 --> 00:42:08,634 About three days later, 761 00:42:08,764 --> 00:42:12,986 here comes a car with an old, scruffy cowboy, 762 00:42:13,116 --> 00:42:16,990 and two girls up front, and two girls in back. 763 00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:20,602 And Bobby goes over to him like he knows him, 764 00:42:20,733 --> 00:42:22,648 and this cowboy says, "Hey, do you want to 765 00:42:22,778 --> 00:42:25,651 go swimming at Dennis Wilson's house?" 766 00:42:25,781 --> 00:42:30,090 So I get into the car, and we're driving, 767 00:42:30,220 --> 00:42:32,396 and this old cowboy is checking me out 768 00:42:32,527 --> 00:42:35,138 in the rearview mirror, and no one else is talking. 769 00:42:35,269 --> 00:42:37,663 And every time he says something, 770 00:42:37,793 --> 00:42:43,016 they kind of giggle, like a little acidy giggle. 771 00:42:43,146 --> 00:42:45,671 We go into the Pacific Palisades. 772 00:42:45,801 --> 00:42:47,586 He said, "Do you like the Beach Boys?" 773 00:42:47,716 --> 00:42:49,718 I said, well, not really. 774 00:42:49,849 --> 00:42:52,678 He laughed, and everybody kind of giggled. 775 00:42:52,808 --> 00:42:56,377 So we pull up to a gate, and he puts in a code. 776 00:42:56,507 --> 00:42:59,336 After we pull in, this cowboy turns around, 777 00:42:59,467 --> 00:43:02,252 looks and me and said, "This is your dream, girl, 778 00:43:02,383 --> 00:43:03,950 so now you can start living it." 779 00:43:11,131 --> 00:43:12,872 I walk in, 780 00:43:13,002 --> 00:43:16,049 and there's beautiful young people everywhere. 781 00:43:16,179 --> 00:43:19,095 And in walks the rock star 782 00:43:19,226 --> 00:43:21,663 with freshly-washed chestnut hair, 783 00:43:21,794 --> 00:43:24,013 good-looking, cleft in his chin, 784 00:43:24,144 --> 00:43:28,104 dreamy eyes, in a silk robe 785 00:43:28,235 --> 00:43:30,672 and silk harem-looking pants. 786 00:43:30,803 --> 00:43:32,152 I found out later they were made 787 00:43:32,282 --> 00:43:34,502 with Dennis Wilson's sheets. 788 00:43:34,633 --> 00:43:37,418 He looked totally different, but I knew it was the cowboy. 789 00:43:37,548 --> 00:43:40,595 And he goes, "Hi, I'm Charlie Manson." 790 00:43:45,861 --> 00:43:50,649 - ♪ There's a time for living ♪ 791 00:43:50,779 --> 00:43:55,610 ♪ The time keeps on flying 792 00:43:58,178 --> 00:43:59,832 ♪ Look at your game girl 793 00:43:59,962 --> 00:44:03,705 - And then the very first song that Charlie sang was 794 00:44:03,836 --> 00:44:05,751 "Look at Your Game Girl." 795 00:44:05,881 --> 00:44:07,709 And the words were just hitting me here, 796 00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:10,277 like, was I playing a game? 797 00:44:10,407 --> 00:44:13,584 Are my feelings real? 798 00:44:13,715 --> 00:44:16,631 And it just really... 799 00:44:18,851 --> 00:44:21,897 ...got to me. It really got to me. 800 00:44:22,028 --> 00:44:25,422 And I think I was drawn in not only with the music, 801 00:44:25,553 --> 00:44:29,513 but with feeling of belonging. 802 00:44:29,644 --> 00:44:33,300 At the end, I said, "You know what? I'm staying." 803 00:44:33,430 --> 00:44:38,740 - ♪ Sad game 804 00:44:38,871 --> 00:44:40,437 - Charlie was very charismatic, 805 00:44:40,568 --> 00:44:43,832 and he had this uncanny ability to read people 806 00:44:43,963 --> 00:44:48,663 and immediately know what our weaknesses were 807 00:44:48,794 --> 00:44:50,360 and what we needed, 808 00:44:50,491 --> 00:44:52,493 and he would become that person and fulfill that. 809 00:44:54,974 --> 00:44:57,890 - And he would tell us, "I don't think at all. 810 00:44:58,020 --> 00:45:01,545 So when I get a thought, it doesn't come from me." 811 00:45:01,676 --> 00:45:04,331 We took that to think it comes from, like, a god. 812 00:45:04,461 --> 00:45:06,681 So we just thought he was the closest thing 813 00:45:06,812 --> 00:45:09,379 to being the one, 814 00:45:09,510 --> 00:45:12,078 and we all wanted to be not only like Charlie, 815 00:45:12,208 --> 00:45:14,384 we wanted to be Charlie. 816 00:45:14,515 --> 00:45:17,387 We wanted to have no thoughts, no cares, 817 00:45:17,518 --> 00:45:21,609 and be able to be a conduit to truth coming from on high. 818 00:45:25,091 --> 00:45:28,355 - What struck me is how excited they were, 819 00:45:28,485 --> 00:45:31,750 when Manson kind of gave them the entre 820 00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:33,577 into Dennis Wilson's house. 821 00:45:33,708 --> 00:45:35,797 I mean, they were these young kids who, all of a sudden, 822 00:45:35,928 --> 00:45:37,494 were hobnobbing with Dennis Wilson, 823 00:45:37,625 --> 00:45:39,714 and all these people, the Mamas and the Papas, 824 00:45:39,845 --> 00:45:41,760 and Dean Martin's daughter. 825 00:45:41,890 --> 00:45:44,763 They thought this was heaven. 826 00:45:44,893 --> 00:45:47,766 Terry Melcher, Gregg Jakobson, 827 00:45:47,896 --> 00:45:51,465 and Dennis Wilson were all bosom buddies. 828 00:45:51,595 --> 00:45:54,555 These young men, all good-looking, 829 00:45:54,685 --> 00:45:58,820 still needed a little extra pizzazz to their lives. 830 00:45:58,951 --> 00:46:01,518 So anybody with a rough reputation 831 00:46:01,649 --> 00:46:04,870 might have been adopted into the scene. 832 00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:06,959 And Manson was incredible in the way 833 00:46:07,089 --> 00:46:10,876 he was able to put a magic spell on all these guys 834 00:46:11,006 --> 00:46:15,837 who were fascinated by this odd character. 835 00:46:15,968 --> 00:46:17,796 - We were at the Whisky one night. 836 00:46:17,926 --> 00:46:18,971 There was a table at the Whisky 837 00:46:19,101 --> 00:46:21,147 that was reserved for the music people. 838 00:46:21,277 --> 00:46:22,496 I was with Terry, I think, 839 00:46:22,626 --> 00:46:24,106 and Dennis had come in with Charlie, 840 00:46:24,237 --> 00:46:25,542 and Lou Adler was there. 841 00:46:25,673 --> 00:46:26,935 There were a lot of people at the table. 842 00:46:27,066 --> 00:46:29,242 And all of a sudden, there's like 843 00:46:29,372 --> 00:46:31,592 almost a commotion on the dance floor. 844 00:46:31,722 --> 00:46:33,899 And I finally stood up on the booth, and I'm looking. 845 00:46:34,029 --> 00:46:37,076 I said, "Hey, you guys, you have to see this." 846 00:46:37,206 --> 00:46:38,904 And it was Charlie in the middle of the dance floor 847 00:46:39,034 --> 00:46:41,950 at the Whisky, and he was going off. 848 00:46:42,081 --> 00:46:44,431 I swear to this day that there was electricity 849 00:46:44,561 --> 00:46:48,348 coming off the guy's head, and he cleared the floor. 850 00:46:48,478 --> 00:46:50,524 I mean, he was in a zone, and he was just out there, 851 00:46:50,654 --> 00:46:54,963 arms, legs, head, hair, spittle. 852 00:46:55,094 --> 00:46:56,922 It wasn't rehearsed or planned, 853 00:46:57,052 --> 00:46:59,228 but that's Charlie. 854 00:47:06,627 --> 00:47:08,498 The Beach Boys had formed their own record label, 855 00:47:08,629 --> 00:47:10,936 Brother Records, and Dennis thought Charlie 856 00:47:11,066 --> 00:47:13,852 could potentially be one of the artists. 857 00:47:13,982 --> 00:47:15,984 They did try working with him, 858 00:47:16,115 --> 00:47:17,943 and they did try making something happen with him. 859 00:47:18,073 --> 00:47:22,991 Brian Wilson had a studio in his home. 860 00:47:23,122 --> 00:47:26,995 - We went to Brian Wilson's to do a recording, 861 00:47:27,126 --> 00:47:30,433 or a session that they were gonna record, maybe a demo. 862 00:47:30,564 --> 00:47:33,262 I think it was like Nancy Pittman and I, 863 00:47:33,393 --> 00:47:34,698 and we didn't have bathing suits, 864 00:47:34,829 --> 00:47:36,570 so, you know, we were swimming in the pool nude, 865 00:47:36,700 --> 00:47:39,355 and I think Brian's wife was there. 866 00:47:39,486 --> 00:47:43,272 And she, you know, she wasn't happy about us being there. 867 00:47:43,403 --> 00:47:45,361 - Stephen Desper is the recording guy 868 00:47:45,492 --> 00:47:46,972 at Brian Wilson's house. 869 00:47:47,102 --> 00:47:50,714 - Charlie was not going to be produced. 870 00:47:50,845 --> 00:47:52,934 He wasn't. 871 00:47:53,065 --> 00:47:55,197 He had no idea what recording sessions were about, 872 00:47:55,328 --> 00:47:56,938 how to make records. 873 00:47:57,069 --> 00:47:58,984 He took it all very personally, 874 00:47:59,114 --> 00:48:03,292 and he was not a professional artist. 875 00:48:03,423 --> 00:48:06,034 - After about an hour and an argument, 876 00:48:06,165 --> 00:48:09,690 Desper throws his hands up, and they all leave. 877 00:48:11,735 --> 00:48:12,780 - We were swimming in the pool, 878 00:48:12,911 --> 00:48:14,477 and Charlie comes out. 879 00:48:14,608 --> 00:48:17,872 "Girls, get your clothes on. We're leaving." 880 00:48:18,003 --> 00:48:19,526 The way he said it, it was abrupt, 881 00:48:19,656 --> 00:48:23,878 and the way we pulled out, there was squealing brakes 882 00:48:24,009 --> 00:48:26,489 and, you know, acceleration. 883 00:48:26,620 --> 00:48:29,449 He was mad. 884 00:48:29,579 --> 00:48:30,929 Summer was coming to an end. 885 00:48:31,059 --> 00:48:32,408 I think it was September now, 886 00:48:32,539 --> 00:48:35,194 and Dennis was gonna go away for two weeks on the road. 887 00:48:35,324 --> 00:48:36,935 He says, "Gregg," he says, "Can you get me out of here?" 888 00:48:37,065 --> 00:48:40,025 He says, "Can you find a house for me?" 889 00:48:40,155 --> 00:48:41,809 And I found a house on the way to Malibu 890 00:48:41,940 --> 00:48:43,289 on the Coast Highway. 891 00:48:43,419 --> 00:48:45,073 And the whole idea was to not 892 00:48:45,204 --> 00:48:47,554 let the girls and Charlie know. 893 00:48:47,684 --> 00:48:49,295 He was really trying to divorce himself from that. 894 00:48:49,425 --> 00:48:50,687 He was really done with it. 895 00:49:00,219 --> 00:49:04,049 - Direct from our newsroom in Washington, in color, 896 00:49:04,179 --> 00:49:08,053 this is the "CBS Evening News with Walter Cronkite." 897 00:49:08,183 --> 00:49:11,099 - Good evening. Dr. Martin Luther King, 898 00:49:11,230 --> 00:49:14,059 the apostle of nonviolence in the Civil Rights Movement, 899 00:49:14,189 --> 00:49:15,886 has been shot to death in Memphis, Tennessee. 900 00:49:23,720 --> 00:49:26,854 - 1968 was a horrible year. 901 00:49:29,204 --> 00:49:32,903 There was the Vietnam War, which was raging. 902 00:49:33,034 --> 00:49:33,904 - Do you think it's worth it? 903 00:49:34,035 --> 00:49:36,516 - Yeah, I don't know. 904 00:49:36,646 --> 00:49:38,344 They say we're fighting for something, I don't know. 905 00:49:41,216 --> 00:49:43,479 all: Hell no, we won't go! Hell no, we won't go! 906 00:49:43,610 --> 00:49:44,959 - The protests got violent. 907 00:49:50,617 --> 00:49:52,488 The cops got violent with the protesters. 908 00:49:59,234 --> 00:50:01,106 - All of it began the first time some of you 909 00:50:01,236 --> 00:50:03,499 who know better let young people think 910 00:50:03,630 --> 00:50:06,111 that they have the right to choose the laws 911 00:50:06,241 --> 00:50:07,547 they would obey as long as they were doing it 912 00:50:07,677 --> 00:50:09,114 in the name of social protest. 913 00:50:14,467 --> 00:50:18,079 - In '67, '68, 914 00:50:18,210 --> 00:50:20,864 there's racial unrest between blacks and whites. 915 00:50:24,259 --> 00:50:26,957 There were race riots in every major American city. 916 00:50:30,700 --> 00:50:33,442 - Channel Five will present a documentary account 917 00:50:33,573 --> 00:50:35,749 of the violence and insurrection 918 00:50:35,879 --> 00:50:40,536 that has torn this great city asunder for the past five days. 919 00:50:40,667 --> 00:50:46,542 - The Watts riot of '65 was one of the earliest riots. 920 00:50:46,673 --> 00:50:49,371 This one came out of a police encounter 921 00:50:49,502 --> 00:50:51,852 that went terribly wrong 922 00:50:51,982 --> 00:50:55,986 between a paramilitary organization called the LAPD 923 00:50:56,117 --> 00:50:59,816 and the African-American community. 924 00:50:59,947 --> 00:51:04,560 The LAPD was one that prided themselves on their investment 925 00:51:04,691 --> 00:51:07,172 in tactical equipment 926 00:51:07,302 --> 00:51:11,828 that was most appropriate for warzones. 927 00:51:11,959 --> 00:51:16,790 They were there to enforce order like an occupying force. 928 00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:19,706 That meant there were all sorts of moments 929 00:51:19,836 --> 00:51:24,102 in which police brutality became just the way of life. 930 00:51:24,232 --> 00:51:25,364 This time there was pushback. 931 00:51:28,236 --> 00:51:30,456 It went on for several days. 932 00:51:32,240 --> 00:51:35,852 The National Guard was called out. 933 00:51:35,983 --> 00:51:38,942 - Cameraman Ed Clark, who's just returned from the area, 934 00:51:39,073 --> 00:51:41,554 would you tell it how it was tonight compared to last night? 935 00:51:41,684 --> 00:51:43,773 - Well, Stan, in my 15 years in the news business, 936 00:51:43,904 --> 00:51:46,254 this is undoubtedly the worst thing I think I've ever seen. 937 00:51:46,385 --> 00:51:48,256 Well, I can honestly say that I was scared to death. 938 00:51:48,387 --> 00:51:51,216 - And these are roving mobs of mostly teenagers, 939 00:51:51,346 --> 00:51:54,567 would you say? 940 00:51:54,697 --> 00:51:56,134 - No, I wouldn't say they're all teenagers. 941 00:51:56,264 --> 00:51:58,005 No, sir, they're not teenagers. 942 00:51:58,136 --> 00:51:59,180 There are adults as well. 943 00:51:59,311 --> 00:52:01,269 I mean, there's everything down there. 944 00:52:01,400 --> 00:52:02,662 There are men, there are women, there are children, 945 00:52:02,792 --> 00:52:06,883 and very frankly, if you're white, you are in trouble. 946 00:52:07,014 --> 00:52:10,452 - In the aftermath of it, there was an effort to address 947 00:52:10,583 --> 00:52:14,891 some of the reasons why Watts was such a tinderbox. 948 00:52:15,022 --> 00:52:17,894 But because of the continuing segregation, 949 00:52:18,025 --> 00:52:20,680 continuing deprivation, but most importantly, 950 00:52:20,810 --> 00:52:24,640 continuing hostility from the police, 951 00:52:24,771 --> 00:52:27,904 by '68, black people had had enough. 952 00:52:30,037 --> 00:52:32,213 - And that the only course for the negroes 953 00:52:32,344 --> 00:52:35,216 is to bring about 954 00:52:35,347 --> 00:52:39,089 a final, violent, apocalyptic confrontation 955 00:52:39,220 --> 00:52:41,353 of black and white. 956 00:52:41,483 --> 00:52:42,963 - They not gonna fight down here no more. 957 00:52:43,093 --> 00:52:44,921 You know where they going? They after the white people. 958 00:52:45,052 --> 00:52:47,228 They're gonna caravan out in everywhere else 959 00:52:47,359 --> 00:52:48,795 the white man is supposed to stay. 960 00:52:48,925 --> 00:52:51,101 They gonna do the white man in. 961 00:52:55,280 --> 00:52:57,238 - Something like it happened 962 00:52:57,369 --> 00:53:01,373 in 76 American cities this summer. 963 00:53:01,503 --> 00:53:04,637 We saw soldiers patrolling our streets. 964 00:53:04,767 --> 00:53:07,335 We saw stores and houses in our neighborhoods 965 00:53:07,466 --> 00:53:11,252 that looked as if they'd been hit by bombs. 966 00:53:11,383 --> 00:53:12,862 Next summer, it could look like this 967 00:53:12,993 --> 00:53:17,389 in the downtown sections of our city. 968 00:53:17,519 --> 00:53:19,956 It could look like this in the neighborhood where you live. 969 00:53:22,307 --> 00:53:24,744 The simple fact is this: 970 00:53:24,874 --> 00:53:28,400 We're in the worst crisis we have known since the Civil War, 971 00:53:28,530 --> 00:53:30,619 and time is running short to try to find some answers to it. 972 00:53:32,926 --> 00:53:35,189 - If the extremists can divide the rest us 973 00:53:35,320 --> 00:53:37,278 into two hostile camps, 974 00:53:37,409 --> 00:53:39,933 all of our hopes for the future will be lost. 975 00:53:40,063 --> 00:53:42,327 - What has been going on within the United States 976 00:53:42,457 --> 00:53:44,590 over the period of the last three years, 977 00:53:44,720 --> 00:53:48,333 the divisions, the violence, we can start to work together, 978 00:53:48,463 --> 00:53:50,813 and I intend to make that my basis for running 979 00:53:50,944 --> 00:53:52,206 over the period of the next few months. 980 00:53:52,337 --> 00:53:55,818 all: Revolution has come. 981 00:53:55,949 --> 00:53:57,646 all: Off the pigs! 982 00:53:57,777 --> 00:54:00,388 - The majority of white people 983 00:54:00,519 --> 00:54:04,479 associated rising demands of African-Americans 984 00:54:04,610 --> 00:54:07,265 with such a deep threat to the social order 985 00:54:07,395 --> 00:54:09,267 that some actually thought that 986 00:54:09,397 --> 00:54:11,356 the rise of the Black Panthers 987 00:54:11,486 --> 00:54:14,315 was a precursor to the arrival of the Antichrist. 988 00:54:14,446 --> 00:54:15,229 - The Second Amendment of the Constitution 989 00:54:15,360 --> 00:54:17,753 guarantees the citizen 990 00:54:17,884 --> 00:54:21,017 a right to bear arms on public property. 991 00:54:22,845 --> 00:54:24,369 - Taking advantage of a law 992 00:54:24,499 --> 00:54:26,762 which authorized the carrying of visible arms, 993 00:54:26,893 --> 00:54:29,025 patrols of the Black Panther Party for Self-Defense 994 00:54:29,156 --> 00:54:32,681 cruised in the ghetto following police cars. 995 00:54:32,812 --> 00:54:34,248 As soon as a black is arrested, 996 00:54:34,379 --> 00:54:35,771 they check the procedure, 997 00:54:35,902 --> 00:54:37,295 making sure the law is observed, 998 00:54:37,425 --> 00:54:39,340 and that their brother knows his rights. 999 00:54:39,471 --> 00:54:42,038 As a result, the police hate them, 1000 00:54:42,169 --> 00:54:44,389 and the black community admires them. 1001 00:54:44,519 --> 00:54:47,217 - We have to understand that we're talking about 1002 00:54:47,348 --> 00:54:49,829 our survival and nothing else, 1003 00:54:49,959 --> 00:54:52,353 whether or not this beautiful race of people 1004 00:54:52,484 --> 00:54:54,790 is gonna survive on the Earth, 1005 00:54:54,921 --> 00:54:57,315 that's what we're talking about. 1006 00:54:57,445 --> 00:54:59,186 - How many white folks you kill today? 1007 00:55:04,147 --> 00:55:06,193 - There's this sense that everything 1008 00:55:06,324 --> 00:55:08,021 is about to break loose. 1009 00:55:08,151 --> 00:55:10,415 Something big is about to happen. 1010 00:55:15,071 --> 00:55:17,247 - A doctor, we need a doctor right here at the microphone, 1011 00:55:17,378 --> 00:55:19,511 please, immediately. 1012 00:55:19,641 --> 00:55:22,340 - A few months after Martin Luther King was assassinated, 1013 00:55:22,470 --> 00:55:24,298 heir apparent to the White House, 1014 00:55:24,429 --> 00:55:25,908 Bobby Kennedy was murdered 1015 00:55:26,039 --> 00:55:28,258 in the kitchen of the Ambassador Hotel. 1016 00:55:32,045 --> 00:55:35,918 And then you have all these runaway children 1017 00:55:36,049 --> 00:55:39,661 that are the product of this chaos, 1018 00:55:39,792 --> 00:55:42,055 all the lies, hypocrisy, 1019 00:55:42,185 --> 00:55:44,318 and they're of course attracted 1020 00:55:44,449 --> 00:55:46,886 to somebody like Charlie, 1021 00:55:47,016 --> 00:55:51,499 who said society needed to change. 1022 00:55:51,630 --> 00:55:56,417 And also, it's extremely empowering to them to hear 1023 00:55:56,548 --> 00:55:59,507 that they are going to be part of the wheels of change. 1024 00:55:59,638 --> 00:56:01,335 all: Revolution has come. 1025 00:56:01,466 --> 00:56:03,946 all: Off the pigs! 1026 00:56:04,077 --> 00:56:08,342 - Manson's response was to try to start the ultimate race war. 1027 00:56:08,473 --> 00:56:10,213 all: Time to pick up the gun. 1028 00:56:10,344 --> 00:56:12,346 all: Off the pigs! 1029 00:56:22,487 --> 00:56:26,012 - ♪ Cease to exist 1030 00:56:26,142 --> 00:56:28,275 - I heard there was a song that Dennis and Charlie 1031 00:56:28,406 --> 00:56:30,495 had been working on, 1032 00:56:30,625 --> 00:56:33,019 and that it was gonna go on one of the albums. 1033 00:56:33,149 --> 00:56:35,935 - ♪ I'm your kind 1034 00:56:36,065 --> 00:56:41,462 ♪ Oh your kind and I can see 1035 00:56:41,593 --> 00:56:44,509 ♪ Never had a lesson I ever learned ♪ 1036 00:56:44,639 --> 00:56:46,467 - The Beach Boys did take 1037 00:56:46,598 --> 00:56:48,295 one of Charlie Manson's song ideas, 1038 00:56:48,426 --> 00:56:52,430 "Cease to Exist." 1039 00:56:52,560 --> 00:56:53,779 - And they turned it into a Beach Boys song called 1040 00:56:53,909 --> 00:56:55,868 "Never Learn Not to Love." 1041 00:56:55,998 --> 00:56:58,523 - ♪ Never had a lesson I ever learned ♪ 1042 00:56:58,653 --> 00:57:01,134 - And Dennis took the songwriting credit, 1043 00:57:01,264 --> 00:57:02,527 but it was written by Charles Manson. 1044 00:57:02,657 --> 00:57:06,052 - ♪ Learn not to love you 1045 00:57:06,182 --> 00:57:10,448 - Charlie had signed away his right to the writer's royalty, 1046 00:57:10,578 --> 00:57:12,319 and Dennis also changed it around, 1047 00:57:12,450 --> 00:57:14,147 which really angered Charlie. 1048 00:57:14,277 --> 00:57:16,454 - You're stealing my music every day. 1049 00:57:16,584 --> 00:57:18,978 You're writing my songs, you're playing my game. 1050 00:57:19,108 --> 00:57:21,502 - Charlie really thought that he had been taken advantage of 1051 00:57:21,633 --> 00:57:25,419 or cheated, or something had been taken away from him. 1052 00:57:25,550 --> 00:57:28,509 - He was angry, angry at Dennis, 1053 00:57:28,640 --> 00:57:30,511 and Dennis knew he was very angry at him, 1054 00:57:30,642 --> 00:57:35,081 because Charlie sent a bullet to Dennis 1055 00:57:35,211 --> 00:57:37,605 and said, "This is for you, 1056 00:57:37,736 --> 00:57:40,565 and there's other bullets where this comes from." 1057 00:57:40,695 --> 00:57:44,569 - Dennis was aware enough of what Charlie was capable of, 1058 00:57:44,699 --> 00:57:48,964 which is why he slept with a gun under his pillow. 1059 00:57:49,095 --> 00:57:50,923 - When I come up with a song and they change the words, 1060 00:57:51,053 --> 00:57:52,577 I say don't change the words. 1061 00:57:52,707 --> 00:57:54,143 If you change the words, 1062 00:57:54,274 --> 00:57:55,493 my shadows are running fast, man. 1063 00:58:06,591 --> 00:58:09,855 - ♪ Once I was blind but now I see ♪ 1064 00:58:09,985 --> 00:58:12,553 ♪ Now that you're in love with me ♪ 1065 00:58:12,684 --> 00:58:15,556 ♪ You made a believer out of me babe ♪ 1066 00:58:15,687 --> 00:58:18,385 ♪ You made a believer out of me ♪ 1067 00:58:18,516 --> 00:58:21,431 ♪ I doo right, yoo doo right 1068 00:58:21,562 --> 00:58:24,609 ♪ Doo right, yoo doo right 1069 00:58:24,739 --> 00:58:27,220 ♪ When they ask what's wrong you say okay ♪ 1070 00:58:29,744 --> 00:58:32,878 ♪ I'm in love with my girl, and she 's away ♪ 1071 00:58:35,794 --> 00:58:38,579 ♪ Once I was blind, now I can see ♪ 1072 00:58:38,710 --> 00:58:41,495 ♪ Now that you're in love with me ♪ 1073 00:58:41,626 --> 00:58:43,976 ♪ You made a believer out of me, babe ♪ 1074 00:58:45,586 --> 00:58:47,762 - Greg, move your head. 84795

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