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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:36,624 --> 00:00:40,027 - A very good sign that you've misunderstood the cause 2 00:00:40,027 --> 00:00:44,999 of a disorder is your inability to treat or prevent it. 3 00:00:46,468 --> 00:00:49,471 - You look at the data of ever increasing obesity 4 00:00:49,471 --> 00:00:52,606 and diabetes and you just think, 5 00:00:52,606 --> 00:00:54,808 how is it possible the whole world has failed 6 00:00:54,808 --> 00:00:55,710 to eat healthfully? 7 00:00:56,944 --> 00:00:59,313 Maybe we're being told the wrong advice. 8 00:00:59,313 --> 00:01:01,515 - [Reporter] Since the 1960s the American Heart Association 9 00:01:01,515 --> 00:01:04,084 has been saying saturated fat is detrimental 10 00:01:04,084 --> 00:01:05,320 to cardiovascular health, 11 00:01:05,320 --> 00:01:07,421 you need to get it out of the diet. 12 00:01:07,421 --> 00:01:11,126 - It's hard to think of another policy that has caused 13 00:01:11,126 --> 00:01:14,662 so much harm that has been so wrong. 14 00:01:16,930 --> 00:01:18,367 - You know the chief killer of Americans 15 00:01:18,367 --> 00:01:20,469 is cardiovascular disease. 16 00:01:20,469 --> 00:01:22,603 - [Dr. Sara] The manipulation of the data and the idea 17 00:01:22,603 --> 00:01:25,974 and the push for low-fat, really got us in trouble. 18 00:01:27,108 --> 00:01:30,445 - I think the low-fat diet is genocide. 19 00:01:30,445 --> 00:01:33,148 - Saturated fat increases cardiovascular risk. 20 00:01:33,148 --> 00:01:35,249 - We've been told forever that fats gonna kill you. 21 00:01:35,249 --> 00:01:38,153 - This started because incontrovertible evidence 22 00:01:38,153 --> 00:01:40,255 that saturated fat is bad. 23 00:01:40,255 --> 00:01:41,755 - Over and over and over. 24 00:01:41,755 --> 00:01:44,292 - The more animal protein, particularly red meat you eat, 25 00:01:44,292 --> 00:01:45,993 the more likely you'll get sick from all kinds 26 00:01:45,993 --> 00:01:47,261 of different things. 27 00:01:47,261 --> 00:01:48,797 - You're fat because you eat too much fat. 28 00:01:48,797 --> 00:01:51,200 - So, low-fat, low-fat, low-fat, low-fat, low-fat. 29 00:01:52,633 --> 00:01:54,469 - [Dr. Mark] For 40-years, the dietary guidelines 30 00:01:54,469 --> 00:01:57,572 have set nutrition standards for every American, 31 00:01:57,572 --> 00:02:00,874 for our kids in school, for food programs for the poor 32 00:02:00,874 --> 00:02:04,179 and the elderly, for rations for our nation's military, 33 00:02:04,179 --> 00:02:07,516 for doctors, nutritionists and dieticians. 34 00:02:07,516 --> 00:02:11,185 We've had it hammered into our heads that fat is bad, 35 00:02:11,185 --> 00:02:14,054 especially saturated fat, the kind found in meat, 36 00:02:14,054 --> 00:02:18,226 dairy and some tropical oils like coconut and palm. 37 00:02:18,226 --> 00:02:21,196 - [Female Narrator] The base of the pyramid, carbohydrates. 38 00:02:21,196 --> 00:02:23,832 - [Dr. Mark] The food pyramid codified our fat phobia 39 00:02:23,832 --> 00:02:26,701 telling us to make carbohydrates the foundation 40 00:02:26,701 --> 00:02:28,202 of our food choices. 41 00:02:28,202 --> 00:02:31,005 - I think the food pyramid is great if you're standing 42 00:02:31,005 --> 00:02:33,308 on your head because you need to turn 43 00:02:33,308 --> 00:02:35,344 that pyramid upside down. 44 00:02:35,344 --> 00:02:37,144 - You can't be serious, that would put butter 45 00:02:37,144 --> 00:02:38,078 and fat at the top of the-- 46 00:02:38,078 --> 00:02:39,280 - Flip the damn food pyramid! 47 00:02:45,987 --> 00:02:48,322 - Nutrition is stabilizing. 48 00:02:48,322 --> 00:02:49,624 - We got the whole story wrong, 49 00:02:49,624 --> 00:02:51,191 we were told to eat six to 11 servings of bread, 50 00:02:51,191 --> 00:02:54,061 rice, cereal and pasta a day by the government 51 00:02:54,061 --> 00:02:55,364 and the food pyramid, 52 00:02:55,364 --> 00:02:56,665 it should be called the food tombstone. 53 00:03:01,769 --> 00:03:04,539 - I'm Doctor Mark Hyman, a functional medicine physician 54 00:03:04,539 --> 00:03:06,975 with a focus on food as medicine. 55 00:03:09,410 --> 00:03:12,346 And I understand the healing power of food. 56 00:03:14,615 --> 00:03:15,883 But I can tell you, 57 00:03:15,883 --> 00:03:18,653 the low-fat diet did not make us healthy. 58 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:25,025 - I think a low-fat heart healthy diet is unproven. 59 00:03:26,660 --> 00:03:30,432 It was essentially a huge experiment on millions of people, 60 00:03:31,165 --> 00:03:33,434 and it failed miserably. 61 00:03:33,434 --> 00:03:35,769 Wait a minute, have you not seen, 62 00:03:35,769 --> 00:03:38,472 are you not practicing medicine to see who's coming 63 00:03:38,472 --> 00:03:41,275 into your clinic to see the problems 64 00:03:41,275 --> 00:03:43,111 that this idea has caused? 65 00:03:43,111 --> 00:03:46,347 I mean, it's just to me, unbelievable. 66 00:03:47,816 --> 00:03:50,951 - [Dr. Mark] For years, even I believed that eating fat 67 00:03:50,951 --> 00:03:54,588 would make me fat and that eating saturated fat 68 00:03:54,588 --> 00:03:57,492 would cause heart disease and kill me. 69 00:03:57,492 --> 00:04:00,094 But now, a growing group of experts reveal 70 00:04:00,094 --> 00:04:03,464 that the science against saturated fat was never there. 71 00:04:04,666 --> 00:04:06,868 - I was astonished to find that there simply 72 00:04:06,868 --> 00:04:08,369 was no evidence. 73 00:04:08,369 --> 00:04:10,939 - It was just an idea, but it was launched as a policy 74 00:04:10,939 --> 00:04:13,874 for all Americans based really on no evidence at all. 75 00:04:13,874 --> 00:04:15,309 - What is the evidence? 76 00:04:15,309 --> 00:04:17,545 A big, big zero. 77 00:04:18,646 --> 00:04:20,114 - Our federal dietary guidelines, 78 00:04:20,114 --> 00:04:22,816 the official government advice for how we should all eat 79 00:04:22,816 --> 00:04:25,720 to stay healthy, tell us to limit saturated fat 80 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:27,521 to just a couple of bites a day 81 00:04:27,521 --> 00:04:31,859 and make carbohydrates more than half our daily calories. 82 00:04:31,859 --> 00:04:34,127 I'm here to tell you, that advice 83 00:04:34,127 --> 00:04:36,997 is upside down and backwards. 84 00:04:36,997 --> 00:04:40,501 The idea that eating fat will make you fat is wrong 85 00:04:40,501 --> 00:04:43,905 and the science that says saturated fat causes heart disease 86 00:04:43,905 --> 00:04:47,208 is misleading and instead has led our nation down 87 00:04:47,208 --> 00:04:50,545 a dangerous path toward a wide-spread epidemic 88 00:04:50,545 --> 00:04:53,013 of obesity and type 2 diabetes. 89 00:04:54,415 --> 00:04:56,818 - We screwed up, it happens all the time in science, 90 00:04:56,818 --> 00:05:00,989 medical orthodoxy latched onto the wrong explanation, 91 00:05:00,989 --> 00:05:03,658 made a tragic mistake and now we're living 92 00:05:03,658 --> 00:05:05,158 with the consequences. 93 00:05:09,664 --> 00:05:12,266 (mellow music) 94 00:05:19,607 --> 00:05:21,008 - [Charlie Gibson] The nation got a report card 95 00:05:21,008 --> 00:05:23,578 on obesity today and the country flunked. 96 00:05:23,578 --> 00:05:24,912 - [News Reporter] The battle against obesity 97 00:05:24,912 --> 00:05:26,547 has been going on for years. 98 00:05:26,547 --> 00:05:28,682 - [Michelle Obama] One in three children in this country 99 00:05:28,682 --> 00:05:31,752 is overweight or obese. 100 00:05:37,225 --> 00:05:39,528 - [Dr. Mehmet] An estimated $200 billion cost 101 00:05:39,528 --> 00:05:41,563 to the healthcare industry continues to rise. 102 00:05:41,563 --> 00:05:43,064 - [Gayle King] The search for weight loss 103 00:05:43,064 --> 00:05:45,198 and health may be a little more complex than you think. 104 00:05:45,198 --> 00:05:46,701 - [Peter Jennings] Despite all attempts 105 00:05:46,701 --> 00:05:49,504 to attack the problem, the adult obesity rate increased 106 00:05:49,504 --> 00:05:51,540 in 23 states last year. 107 00:05:58,579 --> 00:06:00,314 - [Cynthia Mcmadden] Why is it that Americans keep 108 00:06:00,314 --> 00:06:03,518 getting fatter in spite of government efforts ranging 109 00:06:03,518 --> 00:06:06,621 from calorie posting to new school lunch program? 110 00:06:08,256 --> 00:06:10,124 - [Gary Taubes] A lot of things with science is about 111 00:06:10,124 --> 00:06:11,391 is seeing whether things 112 00:06:11,391 --> 00:06:13,026 that make sense are really right or not. 113 00:06:13,026 --> 00:06:16,064 In this case, it sounded reasonable but happened 114 00:06:16,064 --> 00:06:16,898 to be wrong. 115 00:06:47,828 --> 00:06:51,465 - I'm not happy about a lot of years of being 116 00:06:51,465 --> 00:06:54,234 at different doctors, and every time 117 00:06:54,234 --> 00:06:56,838 that I'd go in there was just, here's another injection, 118 00:06:56,838 --> 00:06:58,773 here's a different kind of an injectable, 119 00:06:58,773 --> 00:07:01,074 this is the injectable that is supposed 120 00:07:01,074 --> 00:07:03,143 to help you make your own insulin. 121 00:07:03,143 --> 00:07:05,847 The list of side effects were longer than your arm 122 00:07:05,847 --> 00:07:09,484 and it never made you feel better. 123 00:07:09,484 --> 00:07:14,054 And certainly, didn't help at all with weight. 124 00:07:14,054 --> 00:07:16,491 - [Dr. Mark] Judi has struggled with type 2 diabetes most 125 00:07:16,491 --> 00:07:20,160 of her life, so did her dad. 126 00:07:20,160 --> 00:07:22,463 When she was a teenager, he died from complications 127 00:07:22,463 --> 00:07:23,331 of the disease. 128 00:07:24,432 --> 00:07:25,999 Judi's tried for decades 129 00:07:25,999 --> 00:07:28,703 to get her blood sugar under control. 130 00:07:28,703 --> 00:07:30,539 - When I did everything they told me to do, 131 00:07:30,539 --> 00:07:34,307 I'd still gain weight, and so then you just give up. 132 00:07:34,307 --> 00:07:35,408 - [News Anchor] This health epidemic 133 00:07:35,408 --> 00:07:36,410 is weighing on Americans-- 134 00:07:36,410 --> 00:07:37,879 - [Dr. Mark] Judi is not alone. 135 00:07:37,879 --> 00:07:40,414 - [News Anchor] U.S obesity epidemic is only getting worse. 136 00:07:40,414 --> 00:07:43,585 - Americans are not winning their battle over obesity. 137 00:07:43,585 --> 00:07:47,621 - Obesity among children doubled over the past two decades. 138 00:07:47,621 --> 00:07:50,824 - [Dr. Mark] Today, 75% of the country is overweight 139 00:07:50,824 --> 00:07:55,028 or obese, and one in two of us, has pre-diabetes 140 00:07:55,028 --> 00:07:56,564 or type 2 diabetes. 141 00:07:56,564 --> 00:08:01,369 - Type 2 diabetes is crushing us financially, crushing us. 142 00:08:01,369 --> 00:08:03,838 - It currently costs a person with diabetes 143 00:08:03,838 --> 00:08:08,809 in America $900 a month for insulin. 144 00:08:08,809 --> 00:08:10,944 - Direct cost to our healthcare system 145 00:08:10,944 --> 00:08:13,581 is about a billion dollars a day. 146 00:08:13,581 --> 00:08:16,383 - There isn't enough money in the healthcare system 147 00:08:16,383 --> 00:08:18,218 to be able to afford this. 148 00:08:18,218 --> 00:08:20,621 - The cost in terms of money is huge, 149 00:08:20,621 --> 00:08:22,590 the cost in terms of human suffering 150 00:08:22,590 --> 00:08:25,025 is like 10 times more than that. 151 00:08:29,664 --> 00:08:32,500 - [Dr. Mark] In the space of a single generation, 152 00:08:32,500 --> 00:08:34,769 we've gone from this, to this. 153 00:08:42,810 --> 00:08:47,781 - Watching the footage of the 50th anniversary of Apollo 11, 154 00:08:47,781 --> 00:08:52,053 I was struck by how not fat everyone in the crowd was. 155 00:08:52,053 --> 00:08:54,955 We look like a completely different race of people. 156 00:08:54,955 --> 00:08:58,458 - The heart attacks, the strokes, the cancer, the blindness, 157 00:08:58,458 --> 00:09:00,728 the amputations, all of that, 158 00:09:00,728 --> 00:09:04,966 I think is unnecessary suffering that we're causing people. 159 00:09:06,635 --> 00:09:09,370 - [Dr. Mark] The question is, where did this come from 160 00:09:09,370 --> 00:09:11,271 and why is it occurring? 161 00:09:11,271 --> 00:09:12,506 When I was in medical school, 162 00:09:12,506 --> 00:09:15,776 type 2 diabetes happened only in older adults. 163 00:09:15,776 --> 00:09:18,880 Now we see it in kids as young as age three years old 164 00:09:18,880 --> 00:09:22,183 and the more we try to medicate our way out of the disease, 165 00:09:22,183 --> 00:09:24,184 the worse it seems to get. 166 00:09:24,184 --> 00:09:28,055 - You can't throw drugs at a dietary disease 167 00:09:28,055 --> 00:09:30,491 and expect to make it better, 168 00:09:30,491 --> 00:09:31,959 but that's the medical teaching, 169 00:09:31,959 --> 00:09:35,228 "Hey, you have type 2 diabetes, let me give you some pills." 170 00:09:35,228 --> 00:09:36,865 - The model doesn't work. 171 00:09:36,865 --> 00:09:38,266 We're not making people healthy, 172 00:09:38,266 --> 00:09:40,333 we're just treating disease. 173 00:09:40,333 --> 00:09:42,771 But if you give people good nutrition, 174 00:09:42,771 --> 00:09:44,705 they become very healthy. 175 00:09:44,705 --> 00:09:48,910 - He introduced that keto diet, and six weeks later, 176 00:09:50,078 --> 00:09:53,613 it was like a miracle, no diabetes. 177 00:09:53,613 --> 00:09:57,150 - And it was like magic, and I got off, 178 00:09:57,150 --> 00:09:59,152 completely off of insulin. 179 00:09:59,152 --> 00:10:03,657 - Two years later, I had lost 197 pounds. 180 00:10:04,858 --> 00:10:06,660 - [Dr. Mark] Problem is, we've been confused 181 00:10:06,660 --> 00:10:10,698 and downright brainwashed by decades of nutritional dogma, 182 00:10:10,698 --> 00:10:14,135 the almost religious conviction that fat is bad, 183 00:10:14,135 --> 00:10:16,337 especially saturated animal fats. 184 00:10:16,337 --> 00:10:18,839 - You can lose weight on these animal protein, 185 00:10:18,839 --> 00:10:21,442 atkins type diets but you're mortgaging your health 186 00:10:21,442 --> 00:10:22,944 in the process. 187 00:10:22,944 --> 00:10:27,214 - We still operate under this idea of dogmatic principles. 188 00:10:27,214 --> 00:10:29,282 We've always done it that way, 189 00:10:29,282 --> 00:10:31,419 that's what we've always said, 190 00:10:31,419 --> 00:10:34,722 we're gonna continue to say it and unfortunately, 191 00:10:34,722 --> 00:10:37,591 nothing is holding back progress 192 00:10:37,591 --> 00:10:41,328 in nutrition science like dogma. 193 00:10:41,328 --> 00:10:43,396 - [Dr. Mark] Alternative ideas have been attacked 194 00:10:43,396 --> 00:10:45,065 and physicians labeled as quacks 195 00:10:45,065 --> 00:10:46,834 for ignoring guidelines against fats 196 00:10:46,834 --> 00:10:50,103 and telling patients to cut carbs instead. 197 00:10:50,103 --> 00:10:52,272 In South Africa, Doctor Tim Noakes went 198 00:10:52,272 --> 00:10:53,573 through a four year ordeal 199 00:10:53,573 --> 00:10:55,944 that threatened his medical license 200 00:10:55,944 --> 00:10:57,846 for recommending a low carbohydrate, 201 00:10:57,846 --> 00:10:59,981 high fat diet to a young mother. 202 00:10:59,981 --> 00:11:02,250 - The reason why the low carbohydrate diet 203 00:11:02,250 --> 00:11:04,819 has become demonized is because it works 204 00:11:04,819 --> 00:11:08,256 and it has a huge impact on the financial return 205 00:11:08,256 --> 00:11:09,991 of the medical profession. 206 00:11:09,991 --> 00:11:11,992 - I'm an internal medicine specialist, 207 00:11:11,992 --> 00:11:16,229 I can treat all of the conditions that I used to treat 208 00:11:16,229 --> 00:11:21,234 with medications just by changing the food, it's remarkable. 209 00:11:22,602 --> 00:11:24,637 - It's completely free, there's no special equipment, 210 00:11:24,637 --> 00:11:29,410 there's no special surgeries, it's completely natural 211 00:11:29,410 --> 00:11:32,045 and it's been used for thousands of years. 212 00:11:32,045 --> 00:11:34,147 - I can treat not only obesity, 213 00:11:34,147 --> 00:11:38,251 but I can treat type 2 diabetes, high blood pressure, 214 00:11:38,251 --> 00:11:40,921 in fact, I have to take away medications 215 00:11:40,921 --> 00:11:43,024 from people as they get better. 216 00:11:43,024 --> 00:11:46,126 - This is as big as the discovery of insulin or antibiotics, 217 00:11:46,126 --> 00:11:47,761 it clearly is. 218 00:11:47,761 --> 00:11:51,799 - My interpretation is that low-fat diets can work 219 00:11:51,799 --> 00:11:54,734 but low-carb diets work better 220 00:11:54,734 --> 00:11:56,337 and that's what the science says. 221 00:12:00,674 --> 00:12:02,443 - [Dr. Mark] Nick Brown is a pretty typical American 222 00:12:02,443 --> 00:12:03,944 when it comes to his diet. 223 00:12:03,944 --> 00:12:05,179 - Hey, how you doing? 224 00:12:05,179 --> 00:12:06,079 - [Dr. Mark] He eats a variety of protein, 225 00:12:06,079 --> 00:12:07,580 vegetables and grains. 226 00:12:07,580 --> 00:12:10,351 He enjoys beer now and then, and one of his favorite foods, 227 00:12:10,351 --> 00:12:11,184 - Thanks, sir. 228 00:12:11,184 --> 00:12:12,453 Have a good day. 229 00:12:12,453 --> 00:12:13,453 - [Dr. Mark] Is pizza. 230 00:12:13,453 --> 00:12:14,988 - Looking forward to pizza. 231 00:12:14,988 --> 00:12:18,092 - Maybe, if it ruins pizza for me, I'm gonna be pissed off. 232 00:12:19,894 --> 00:12:21,328 - [Dr. Mark] Nick is participating 233 00:12:21,328 --> 00:12:23,764 in a unique nutrition experiment along with Tracy. 234 00:12:23,764 --> 00:12:25,333 - [Tracy] Yeah, I've got a plan for the week. 235 00:12:25,333 --> 00:12:26,166 - [Dr. Mark] And Cynthia. 236 00:12:26,166 --> 00:12:27,101 - Thank you. 237 00:12:27,101 --> 00:12:28,468 - [Waiter] You're welcome. 238 00:12:28,468 --> 00:12:29,938 - [Dr. Mark] Three metabolically healthy people 239 00:12:29,938 --> 00:12:32,740 who take no medications, trying two different diets, 240 00:12:32,740 --> 00:12:35,775 low-carb versus low-fat. 241 00:12:35,775 --> 00:12:39,146 - Quite a few new recipes, so I was curious about using 242 00:12:39,146 --> 00:12:40,113 the right thing. 243 00:12:41,549 --> 00:12:45,785 - [Dr. Mark] Before, during and after the experiment, 244 00:12:45,785 --> 00:12:49,057 they each weigh in, check their blood pressure, 245 00:12:49,057 --> 00:12:51,324 blood sugar, and cholesterol. 246 00:12:51,324 --> 00:12:52,726 - It's a little bit of alcohol-- 247 00:12:52,726 --> 00:12:53,694 - [Dr. Mark] Throughout the experiment, 248 00:12:53,694 --> 00:12:55,228 we'll track their blood sugar. 249 00:12:55,228 --> 00:12:56,064 - Are you ready? 250 00:12:56,064 --> 00:12:57,298 - [Nick] Sure. 251 00:12:57,298 --> 00:12:58,732 - [Dr. Michelle] Okay, here it comes. 252 00:12:58,732 --> 00:13:00,700 - [Dr. Mark] Using a continuous glucose monitor or CGM. 253 00:13:00,700 --> 00:13:01,602 - [Dr. Michelle] Does it bother you? 254 00:13:01,602 --> 00:13:02,435 - [Nick] No. 255 00:13:02,435 --> 00:13:03,905 - [Dr. Michelle] Okay. 256 00:13:03,905 --> 00:13:07,574 - You just hit, Check Glucose and it says, ready to scan 257 00:13:07,574 --> 00:13:10,743 and you just take it here, and there it is, 258 00:13:10,743 --> 00:13:12,813 it's 94, right now. 259 00:13:12,813 --> 00:13:14,882 - [Dr. Mark] The first week, we put them on a low-carb, 260 00:13:14,882 --> 00:13:17,218 ketogenic diet with less than 20 grams 261 00:13:17,218 --> 00:13:21,021 of carbohydrates per day, plenty of healthy fats 262 00:13:22,390 --> 00:13:24,391 and a moderate amount of protein, 263 00:13:24,391 --> 00:13:27,361 a diet designed to keep blood sugars low 264 00:13:27,361 --> 00:13:30,330 but an eating pattern that is not allowed 265 00:13:30,330 --> 00:13:32,466 by the U.S. Dietary Guidelines. 266 00:13:34,535 --> 00:13:36,404 The second week, we switched them 267 00:13:36,404 --> 00:13:39,140 to the USDA MyPlate meal plan. 268 00:13:39,140 --> 00:13:42,275 It's a 2000 calorie a day, government endorsed, 269 00:13:42,275 --> 00:13:45,112 low-fat plan, featuring whole grains, 270 00:13:45,112 --> 00:13:47,147 lean meats and vegetable oils. 271 00:13:47,147 --> 00:13:50,351 And more than half the day's calories as carbohydrates. 272 00:13:51,785 --> 00:13:55,689 - [Dr. Mark] Week one, is the low-carb, high-fat diet. 273 00:13:55,689 --> 00:13:57,125 - [Nick] And then they'll keep this going, 274 00:13:57,125 --> 00:13:58,726 this is almost ready. 275 00:13:58,726 --> 00:14:00,160 I'm excited about it. 276 00:14:00,160 --> 00:14:02,862 I'm excited to try the recipes and excited to see just 277 00:14:02,862 --> 00:14:05,299 what a full week of doing this does. 278 00:14:05,299 --> 00:14:09,270 - I'm grateful to be doing it, it's very fascinating to me. 279 00:14:09,270 --> 00:14:11,271 - [Dr. Mark] The keto recipes are full of healthy, 280 00:14:11,271 --> 00:14:15,242 natural fats like eggs, butter, avocado, olive oil, nuts 281 00:14:15,242 --> 00:14:18,078 and seeds and even grass-fed beef. 282 00:14:18,078 --> 00:14:21,515 - I love new recipes, so this is really good, interesting. 283 00:14:21,515 --> 00:14:23,050 - So these are buttered eggs 284 00:14:23,050 --> 00:14:25,785 and that's what they're called in the recipe. 285 00:14:25,785 --> 00:14:27,621 You actually make them with butter. 286 00:14:27,621 --> 00:14:30,823 I use the grass fed butter and then I just decided 287 00:14:30,823 --> 00:14:33,461 to add a little bit of avocado, and some tomatoes, 288 00:14:33,461 --> 00:14:34,828 and salt and pepper, and that's it. 289 00:14:34,828 --> 00:14:36,764 Super simple, super easy. 290 00:14:37,897 --> 00:14:42,535 - I am making a keto zucchini boats. 291 00:14:42,535 --> 00:14:44,771 You take out the middle of the zucchini, 292 00:14:44,771 --> 00:14:49,242 cook it up with some onion, spinach, I put in some olives, 293 00:14:49,242 --> 00:14:52,413 olive oil, and then just let that saute for a little bit. 294 00:14:52,413 --> 00:14:53,948 - I think it's working for my body. 295 00:14:53,948 --> 00:14:56,684 I'm curious to see what it does through the whole week. 296 00:15:00,420 --> 00:15:01,990 - These are really good. 297 00:15:01,990 --> 00:15:04,291 - [Dr. Mark] By adding healthy fats into every meal 298 00:15:04,291 --> 00:15:06,260 and cutting out processed carbs, 299 00:15:06,260 --> 00:15:10,097 the three experience a sense of fullness that lasts. 300 00:15:10,097 --> 00:15:14,135 - To be honest, I've really not been famished. 301 00:15:14,135 --> 00:15:17,505 - So, this is day three of the strict keto diet. 302 00:15:17,505 --> 00:15:19,906 I am literally down three and a half pounds 303 00:15:19,906 --> 00:15:21,375 from when this started. 304 00:15:21,375 --> 00:15:23,944 I'm surprised by that, I feel great, 305 00:15:23,944 --> 00:15:25,413 I went mountain biking last night, 306 00:15:25,413 --> 00:15:29,049 and had a lot of energy and I don't feel hungry. 307 00:15:29,049 --> 00:15:30,984 - I still feel full and that was after three 308 00:15:30,984 --> 00:15:32,252 and a half hours. 309 00:15:32,252 --> 00:15:33,487 And usually at that time, yeah, the two, 310 00:15:33,487 --> 00:15:35,455 two and a half hours, I'm hungry, usually. 311 00:15:36,924 --> 00:15:39,626 - One way to think of carbs is they are like kindling 312 00:15:39,626 --> 00:15:43,496 on a fire, they burn quickly and then go out, 313 00:15:43,496 --> 00:15:46,799 dropping your blood sugar and creating severe cravings, 314 00:15:46,799 --> 00:15:50,137 the physical signal that your body needs more fuel. 315 00:15:50,137 --> 00:15:51,539 To keep your metabolism burning, 316 00:15:51,539 --> 00:15:54,641 you must constantly eat more and then you crash, 317 00:15:54,641 --> 00:15:57,145 and then eat more and then you crash. 318 00:15:57,145 --> 00:16:00,914 See how carbs like bread, pasta, rice, and yes, 319 00:16:00,914 --> 00:16:04,352 even whole grains, affect your blood sugar. 320 00:16:04,352 --> 00:16:06,853 Protein has a much lower response, 321 00:16:06,853 --> 00:16:09,957 it will raise blood sugar a small amount, and fat, 322 00:16:09,957 --> 00:16:11,424 take a look at fat. 323 00:16:11,424 --> 00:16:14,328 Almost no rise in blood sugar at all. 324 00:16:15,762 --> 00:16:19,067 When you eat fat, it's like putting logs on the fire. 325 00:16:19,067 --> 00:16:23,536 What you get is just a long steady source of fuel. 326 00:16:25,039 --> 00:16:27,574 - And that's one of the reasons that I like low-carb diets 327 00:16:27,574 --> 00:16:30,410 so much, because they don't require as much willpower. 328 00:16:30,410 --> 00:16:33,246 Because if your hormones, your insulin isn't going up 329 00:16:33,246 --> 00:16:35,149 to the sky every time that you eat 330 00:16:35,149 --> 00:16:38,586 and then crashing down making you crave a bagel 331 00:16:38,586 --> 00:16:40,221 or a donut or something from a snack, 332 00:16:40,221 --> 00:16:43,156 if that's not happening in your physiology all the time, 333 00:16:43,156 --> 00:16:47,428 it's much easier to not overeat. 334 00:16:47,428 --> 00:16:52,433 - Day six lunchtime, leftover Italian cabbage stir fry 335 00:16:53,300 --> 00:16:55,035 with a blop of sour cream. 336 00:16:56,469 --> 00:17:00,940 I'm still not quite hungry but it's time for lunch. 337 00:17:00,940 --> 00:17:02,175 - You know, what's really great about 338 00:17:02,175 --> 00:17:04,278 this is it's so easy to test your glucose. 339 00:17:04,278 --> 00:17:07,280 - The sensor is here, and then on my phone, 340 00:17:07,280 --> 00:17:10,184 I go on the app that connects to it. 341 00:17:10,184 --> 00:17:13,753 - And you just put it up and it grabs it. 342 00:17:13,753 --> 00:17:16,056 - And it went doo bloop, and then you have it. 343 00:17:17,057 --> 00:17:18,259 - Pretty cool. 344 00:17:18,259 --> 00:17:20,360 - It's really cool (laughs). 345 00:17:20,360 --> 00:17:22,329 - [Dr. Mark] All week on the low-carb, high-fat diet, 346 00:17:22,329 --> 00:17:25,433 their blood sugars are virtual straight lines 347 00:17:25,433 --> 00:17:27,201 with no spikes or dips. 348 00:17:27,201 --> 00:17:29,770 - It's been steady, it's been, typically, 349 00:17:30,870 --> 00:17:33,005 at the 85 to 90 range. 350 00:17:33,005 --> 00:17:35,309 And I just ate and that's 83, 351 00:17:35,309 --> 00:17:36,676 I just tried it a few minutes ago 352 00:17:36,676 --> 00:17:38,646 and it's already gone down six points. 353 00:17:38,646 --> 00:17:41,249 - I kind of wanna just keep it on all the time 354 00:17:41,249 --> 00:17:42,616 'cause, it's so interesting to see 355 00:17:42,616 --> 00:17:43,951 what you're doing all day. 356 00:17:43,951 --> 00:17:45,485 - [Dr. Mark] By the end of the week, 357 00:17:45,485 --> 00:17:48,489 all three participants have lost weight and feel great. 358 00:17:48,489 --> 00:17:49,322 - How'd your week go? 359 00:17:49,322 --> 00:17:50,523 - Very well, thanks. 360 00:17:50,523 --> 00:17:52,024 - Good. 361 00:17:52,024 --> 00:17:54,927 - You have lost about two and half pounds of fat. 362 00:17:54,927 --> 00:17:56,696 - And how were your blood sugars? 363 00:17:56,696 --> 00:17:58,232 - Very, very even. 364 00:17:58,232 --> 00:18:00,501 - And look, your lean tissue, not only has it not gone down, 365 00:18:00,501 --> 00:18:02,270 it's actually gone up a little bit. 366 00:18:02,270 --> 00:18:06,440 Boy, you're really even, not a lot of variation at all. 367 00:18:06,440 --> 00:18:07,907 - I had always a full feeling, 368 00:18:07,907 --> 00:18:10,978 so I'm wondering if I ate too much maybe, I don't know. 369 00:18:10,978 --> 00:18:14,482 - Well, you'll feel a lot more full with fat and protein, 370 00:18:14,482 --> 00:18:16,450 and less carbohydrate, for sure. 371 00:18:16,450 --> 00:18:19,619 - [Dr. Mark] Next week, we'll flip from low-carb to low-fat 372 00:18:19,619 --> 00:18:22,255 and follow the U.S. Dietary Guidelines. 373 00:18:22,255 --> 00:18:23,991 - I'm really curious to see what happens this week. 374 00:18:23,991 --> 00:18:25,459 - Yeah, me too. 375 00:18:25,459 --> 00:18:26,993 - I'm a little scared about what's gonna happen. 376 00:18:29,297 --> 00:18:31,398 - [Dr. Mark] So how is it possible we got the story 377 00:18:31,398 --> 00:18:33,634 so wrong about fats? 378 00:18:33,634 --> 00:18:35,735 There were religious objections to eating meat 379 00:18:35,735 --> 00:18:39,005 as early as the 1800s that influenced American opinions, 380 00:18:39,005 --> 00:18:42,343 but a major turning point was in 1955, 381 00:18:42,343 --> 00:18:44,877 when a presidential health scare shocked the nation. 382 00:18:44,877 --> 00:18:47,013 - [Narrator] News of President Eisenhower's 383 00:18:47,013 --> 00:18:48,982 sudden illness, described by his doctors 384 00:18:48,982 --> 00:18:52,919 as coronary thrombosis, came as a severe shock to us all. 385 00:18:52,919 --> 00:18:55,688 - President Eisenhower in 1955 had a heart attack. 386 00:18:55,688 --> 00:18:58,658 He was out of the oval office for 10 whole days, 387 00:18:58,658 --> 00:19:00,793 and that really focused the attention 388 00:19:00,793 --> 00:19:03,330 of the nation on this problem of heart disease. 389 00:19:03,330 --> 00:19:04,964 - [Narrator] Cardiovascular ailments continue 390 00:19:04,964 --> 00:19:08,100 to take an increasingly heavy toll of American lives, 391 00:19:08,100 --> 00:19:09,270 a million this year. 392 00:19:09,270 --> 00:19:10,738 - The nation was really in shock 393 00:19:10,738 --> 00:19:13,941 and there was a desperate need for explanations. 394 00:19:13,941 --> 00:19:16,042 - And people were like, whoa, what's causing all 395 00:19:16,042 --> 00:19:17,278 the heart disease? 396 00:19:17,278 --> 00:19:18,678 - [Narrator] Here are vital statistics, 397 00:19:18,678 --> 00:19:21,214 they show that the problem here in America 398 00:19:21,214 --> 00:19:22,683 is the worst in the world. 399 00:19:22,683 --> 00:19:24,184 - [Nina] There were a number of ideas about it, 400 00:19:24,184 --> 00:19:26,319 one was that it was vitamin deficiency, 401 00:19:26,319 --> 00:19:28,789 another was that it was the rising tide of auto exhaust, 402 00:19:28,789 --> 00:19:30,290 more cars on the road. 403 00:19:30,290 --> 00:19:33,726 - Of 10 men, we can expect five to get it, 404 00:19:37,697 --> 00:19:42,101 but we can't say who or when or why. 405 00:19:42,101 --> 00:19:43,703 - Now, you can look back now and say, 406 00:19:43,703 --> 00:19:45,638 well, that's pretty easy to understand, 407 00:19:47,206 --> 00:19:48,341 everybody was smoking. 408 00:19:49,242 --> 00:19:50,243 - Raleigh? 409 00:19:50,243 --> 00:19:51,311 - Oh, no thanks! 410 00:19:52,445 --> 00:19:53,946 I have a pack. 411 00:19:53,946 --> 00:19:57,585 - More doctors smoke Camels than any other cigarette. 412 00:19:57,585 --> 00:20:00,687 - [Dr. Mark] The 1950s and 60s, cigarettes were in. 413 00:20:00,687 --> 00:20:03,691 * Sparks cigarettes are cooler than cool * 414 00:20:03,691 --> 00:20:06,726 * Smoke Spark cigarette as the mouth happy * 415 00:20:06,726 --> 00:20:08,361 - Here have a Viceroy. 416 00:20:08,361 --> 00:20:12,165 - [Dr. Mark] Eisenhower, himself, smoked four packs a day. 417 00:20:12,165 --> 00:20:13,434 - What do you think? 418 00:20:13,434 --> 00:20:15,735 - This is what I was really looking for. 419 00:20:15,735 --> 00:20:17,771 - [Dr. Mark] If you look at the trends for cigarette smoking 420 00:20:17,771 --> 00:20:21,742 against the increases in heart disease, they track together. 421 00:20:21,742 --> 00:20:23,511 But at the same time, the consumption 422 00:20:23,511 --> 00:20:26,547 of saturated fat was falling, dramatically. 423 00:20:26,547 --> 00:20:27,780 - Everybody was smoking, 424 00:20:27,780 --> 00:20:29,982 now we know smoking causes heart disease, 425 00:20:29,982 --> 00:20:34,154 or contributes to heart disease, but at the time, of course, 426 00:20:34,154 --> 00:20:37,790 the tobacco companies were like, no, no, no, no, no, no, 427 00:20:37,790 --> 00:20:40,427 tobacco smoking, it doesn't cause heart disease. 428 00:20:40,427 --> 00:20:42,029 So all the scientists were like, hey, 429 00:20:42,029 --> 00:20:44,531 I wonder why we're getting so much heart disease? 430 00:20:44,531 --> 00:20:46,133 - There was one theory that was proposed 431 00:20:46,133 --> 00:20:49,202 by Ancel Benjamin Keys, who was a pathologist 432 00:20:49,202 --> 00:20:50,971 at the University of Minnesota and he said 433 00:20:50,971 --> 00:20:52,940 that it was saturated fat and dietary cholesterol 434 00:20:52,940 --> 00:20:54,206 that caused heart disease. 435 00:20:54,206 --> 00:20:57,243 - It's like, okay, but how do people eat butter 436 00:20:57,243 --> 00:21:00,313 for the last two millennia? 437 00:21:00,313 --> 00:21:03,116 And ever since 1970, it causes heart disease. 438 00:21:03,116 --> 00:21:05,719 It's like it didn't cause heart disease before. 439 00:21:05,719 --> 00:21:07,788 - [Dr. Mark] At the same time, consumption of sugar, 440 00:21:07,788 --> 00:21:10,991 refined oils and refined grains were on the rise in America. 441 00:21:10,991 --> 00:21:15,995 But Ancel Keys focused on fat as the cause of heart disease. 442 00:21:17,464 --> 00:21:19,399 - And he thought that total cholesterol in your arteries 443 00:21:19,399 --> 00:21:21,769 would build up and clog your arteries 444 00:21:21,769 --> 00:21:23,169 and give you a heart attack, 445 00:21:23,169 --> 00:21:26,540 like hot oil down a cold stove pipe. 446 00:21:26,540 --> 00:21:30,944 So that was his idea, it was just a simple idea. 447 00:21:30,944 --> 00:21:35,448 - To blame a ancient food for a modern disease 448 00:21:35,448 --> 00:21:38,851 was completely illogical, it didn't make any sense, 449 00:21:38,851 --> 00:21:40,588 but you repeat things enough, 450 00:21:40,588 --> 00:21:43,322 and you get it out there enough, people believe you. 451 00:21:43,322 --> 00:21:45,593 - As American author H.L Mencken once said, 452 00:21:45,593 --> 00:21:48,628 "For every complex problem, there is a solution 453 00:21:48,628 --> 00:21:52,098 "that is simple and clear and wrong." 454 00:21:52,098 --> 00:21:54,367 - It's the biggest scam ever perpetrated 455 00:21:54,367 --> 00:21:57,169 on the American people, this whole notion of cholesterol. 456 00:21:59,706 --> 00:22:02,209 - If you have high cholesterol, you may be at increased risk 457 00:22:02,209 --> 00:22:03,810 of heart attack and stroke. 458 00:22:03,810 --> 00:22:06,813 Don't kid yourself, talk to your doctor about your risk, 459 00:22:06,813 --> 00:22:08,415 and about Lipitor. 460 00:22:08,415 --> 00:22:12,619 - It's eye-wateringly lucrative to keep this idea going 461 00:22:12,619 --> 00:22:14,422 that we need to lower cholesterol. 462 00:22:14,422 --> 00:22:17,257 - Cholesterol has definitely become the boogeyman 463 00:22:17,257 --> 00:22:19,592 of cardiology and here's what's 464 00:22:19,592 --> 00:22:22,396 so interesting about cholesterol, is we need it. 465 00:22:22,396 --> 00:22:25,866 Our bodies cannot exist without cholesterol. 466 00:22:25,866 --> 00:22:27,835 Yet once again, in simplistic thinking, 467 00:22:27,835 --> 00:22:30,203 we try and lump cholesterol in good cholesterol 468 00:22:30,203 --> 00:22:33,540 and bad cholesterol and we wanna lower the bad cholesterol, 469 00:22:33,540 --> 00:22:36,777 the LDL, and raise the good cholesterol, the HDL. 470 00:22:36,777 --> 00:22:38,712 That is incredibly simplistic. 471 00:22:38,712 --> 00:22:43,082 - It turns out that raising your LDL cholesterol 472 00:22:43,082 --> 00:22:47,020 in diet does not translate into heart attacks and death. 473 00:22:48,055 --> 00:22:49,490 It just doesn't. 474 00:22:49,490 --> 00:22:51,759 - When you take cholesterol out of the equation, 475 00:22:51,759 --> 00:22:53,093 you go, let's just see if people 476 00:22:53,093 --> 00:22:55,963 who eat more saturated fat actually die more. 477 00:22:55,963 --> 00:22:57,830 Do they actually get more heart disease? 478 00:22:57,830 --> 00:22:59,031 That's what we care about. 479 00:22:59,031 --> 00:23:00,434 Forget that it raises cholesterol, 480 00:23:00,434 --> 00:23:02,435 we know it raises cholesterol, so let's take that out 481 00:23:02,435 --> 00:23:05,305 of the equation and see what the end result is which is 482 00:23:05,305 --> 00:23:08,841 what we care about and every time they do that, 483 00:23:08,841 --> 00:23:10,677 the relationship dissolves. 484 00:23:10,677 --> 00:23:12,846 There is no relationship between the amount 485 00:23:12,846 --> 00:23:15,883 of fat you eat in your diet and getting heart disease. 486 00:23:17,317 --> 00:23:20,252 - [Dr. Mark] We now know that chronic inflammation caused 487 00:23:20,252 --> 00:23:22,889 by a diet high in sugar, refined grains 488 00:23:22,889 --> 00:23:25,592 and refined vegetable oils is far more dangerous 489 00:23:25,592 --> 00:23:27,094 to our health. 490 00:23:27,094 --> 00:23:28,729 - [Dr. Jason] Atherosclerosis is an inflammatory disease, 491 00:23:28,729 --> 00:23:31,431 it's not a buildup of fat in the artery, 492 00:23:31,431 --> 00:23:33,666 it's actually an inflammation that's causing the problems. 493 00:23:33,666 --> 00:23:36,403 - And the cholesterol then will go to that damage to try 494 00:23:36,403 --> 00:23:38,905 to repair it, but it didn't cause the damage. 495 00:23:38,905 --> 00:23:41,107 The damage has to come first. 496 00:23:41,107 --> 00:23:43,944 It's like saying that firefighters caused the fire 497 00:23:43,944 --> 00:23:46,614 when they just turned up to put the fire out. 498 00:23:46,614 --> 00:23:49,348 It was there by association, but it was there to repair, 499 00:23:49,348 --> 00:23:51,151 not to cause harm. 500 00:23:51,151 --> 00:23:55,254 - Inflammation is probably the number one promoter 501 00:23:55,254 --> 00:23:57,190 of every disease we don't wanna have. 502 00:23:57,190 --> 00:24:00,493 And the number one inflammatory substance 503 00:24:00,493 --> 00:24:03,530 in the American diet is sugar, that's it. 504 00:24:04,697 --> 00:24:06,199 You put those two things together, 505 00:24:06,199 --> 00:24:09,001 inflammation makes everything worse 506 00:24:09,001 --> 00:24:11,437 and sugar is the number one inflammatory substance 507 00:24:11,437 --> 00:24:13,941 that we consume, end of argument. 508 00:24:18,244 --> 00:24:21,147 - [Narrator] In 1951, Ancel and Margaret took 509 00:24:21,147 --> 00:24:25,018 the two oldest children to Oxford for a year's sabbatical. 510 00:24:25,018 --> 00:24:28,355 The couple continued their travels, measuring cholesterols 511 00:24:28,355 --> 00:24:31,290 and conducting diet surveys in several European 512 00:24:31,290 --> 00:24:32,960 and African countries. 513 00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:35,494 - There was a study that he presented 514 00:24:35,494 --> 00:24:38,464 at the Mount Sinai Hospital in 1953 515 00:24:38,464 --> 00:24:41,068 and it was the six countries graph. 516 00:24:41,068 --> 00:24:44,037 - [Dr. Andrew] He specifically looked at six countries 517 00:24:44,037 --> 00:24:47,540 around the world and on the x-axis he plotted fat intake, 518 00:24:47,540 --> 00:24:50,277 and on the y-axis coronary heart disease rates, 519 00:24:50,277 --> 00:24:52,680 and he found a straight line relationship. 520 00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:54,380 - And he offered that as proof 521 00:24:54,380 --> 00:24:56,684 that there was a linear relationship 522 00:24:56,684 --> 00:24:59,351 between how much saturated fat people consumed 523 00:24:59,351 --> 00:25:00,988 and how much heart disease they had. 524 00:25:00,988 --> 00:25:04,558 - But he chose six countries for that perfect correlation 525 00:25:04,558 --> 00:25:08,896 and at the time, there was data available for 22 countries. 526 00:25:08,896 --> 00:25:10,329 - [Dr. Zoe] And when you put in all of those countries, 527 00:25:10,329 --> 00:25:11,964 it just looked like a scatter plot. 528 00:25:11,964 --> 00:25:14,466 - The trendline is nowhere near as clear-cut. 529 00:25:14,466 --> 00:25:16,036 - There was no clear relationship. 530 00:25:16,036 --> 00:25:18,606 - No correlation between fat and heart disease. 531 00:25:18,606 --> 00:25:21,942 He was criticized at the time by a statisticians who said, 532 00:25:21,942 --> 00:25:23,844 "You're obviously cherry picking your data." 533 00:25:23,844 --> 00:25:27,213 - He knows it's a hypothesis, he knows he doesn't have 534 00:25:27,213 --> 00:25:29,982 the evidence and he immediately starts recommending 535 00:25:29,982 --> 00:25:32,953 the country go on a low-fat diet, which is fascinating 536 00:25:32,953 --> 00:25:36,723 because there is no concern that you're gonna do harm, 537 00:25:36,723 --> 00:25:41,560 there's no the Hippocratic Oath, "First, do no harm." 538 00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:43,696 - [Dr. Mark] To spite his critics, Keys was determined 539 00:25:43,696 --> 00:25:45,498 to prove himself right. 540 00:25:45,498 --> 00:25:48,068 He followed up with his famous Seven Countries Study 541 00:25:48,068 --> 00:25:50,569 where he traveled to the countries cherry-picked 542 00:25:50,569 --> 00:25:52,972 from his graph and studied eating habits 543 00:25:52,972 --> 00:25:55,508 and heart disease among the people there. 544 00:25:55,508 --> 00:25:59,378 - For his Seven Country Study, he repeated the same mistake, 545 00:25:59,378 --> 00:26:00,914 he cherry-picked his countries. 546 00:26:00,914 --> 00:26:02,715 - I think he did cherry-pick countries 547 00:26:02,715 --> 00:26:04,084 for the Seven Countries Study. 548 00:26:04,084 --> 00:26:06,953 He knew from the six countries graph the countries 549 00:26:06,953 --> 00:26:08,955 that would be on that straight line, so he knew, 550 00:26:08,955 --> 00:26:11,290 for example, that Italy would be a sure thing 551 00:26:11,290 --> 00:26:12,925 and America would be a sure thing. 552 00:26:12,925 --> 00:26:15,695 They would quite nicely anchor some of the ends 553 00:26:15,695 --> 00:26:17,129 of the graph. 554 00:26:17,129 --> 00:26:19,666 - But he did not go to countries like Switzerland, France, 555 00:26:19,666 --> 00:26:22,703 Germany, who ate a lot of saturated fats, 556 00:26:22,703 --> 00:26:25,071 and also had very low rates of heart disease. 557 00:26:27,074 --> 00:26:31,610 - The French were eating all kinds of saturated fat, 558 00:26:31,610 --> 00:26:35,014 butter, cream, and they weren't gaining weight, 559 00:26:35,014 --> 00:26:37,017 which was his paradox at the time, 560 00:26:37,017 --> 00:26:38,284 and they weren't getting heart disease, 561 00:26:38,284 --> 00:26:40,353 they had like half the rate of heart disease 562 00:26:40,353 --> 00:26:42,122 compared to Americans. 563 00:26:42,122 --> 00:26:44,624 Everybody said, "Well, what a paradox, what a paradox." 564 00:26:44,624 --> 00:26:48,060 There was no paradox, the dietary fat simply 565 00:26:48,060 --> 00:26:50,629 wasn't causing obesity, and it didn't cause heart disease. 566 00:26:50,629 --> 00:26:53,133 - So he's a very respected physiologist 567 00:26:53,133 --> 00:26:54,367 and it's worth mentioning, by the way, 568 00:26:54,367 --> 00:26:57,870 that Eisenhower followed the Ancel Keys advice 569 00:26:57,870 --> 00:27:01,441 and cut out all saturated fat and all cholesterol up 570 00:27:01,441 --> 00:27:03,976 until the day he died in 1969 of heart disease, 571 00:27:03,976 --> 00:27:05,478 just worth mentioning. 572 00:27:05,478 --> 00:27:08,014 - [Dr. Mark] Ancel Keys diet heart hypothesis remains 573 00:27:08,014 --> 00:27:10,884 the single most influential theory in history 574 00:27:10,884 --> 00:27:12,720 of nutrition science. 575 00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:16,088 And here's an interesting point, over the past 50 years, 576 00:27:16,088 --> 00:27:19,059 taxpayers have funded several billion of dollars 577 00:27:19,059 --> 00:27:21,994 of research trying to prove saturated fat 578 00:27:21,994 --> 00:27:24,798 causes heart disease, but guess what? 579 00:27:24,798 --> 00:27:26,867 It's never been proven. 580 00:27:26,867 --> 00:27:29,202 To this day, the diet heart hypothesis 581 00:27:29,202 --> 00:27:31,972 remains an hypothesis. 582 00:27:31,972 --> 00:27:34,774 - [Dr. Zoe] There is no evidence against saturated fat, 583 00:27:34,774 --> 00:27:36,175 there just isn't. 584 00:27:39,713 --> 00:27:42,415 - [Dr. Mark] Dr. Zoe Harcombe, is an obesity researcher 585 00:27:42,415 --> 00:27:45,452 who wrote her thesis on the lack of evidence behind 586 00:27:45,452 --> 00:27:47,119 the dietary guidelines. 587 00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:49,455 - My thesis was born out of trying to understand 588 00:27:49,455 --> 00:27:51,959 why we have an obesity epidemic. 589 00:27:51,959 --> 00:27:53,926 - [Dr. Mark] Zoe collected all the raw data 590 00:27:53,926 --> 00:27:57,830 from randomized controlled clinical trials conducted prior 591 00:27:57,830 --> 00:28:00,267 to the release of the dietary guidelines. 592 00:28:00,267 --> 00:28:02,601 She then she re-analyzed all the results 593 00:28:02,601 --> 00:28:05,071 in a process called a meta-analysis. 594 00:28:05,071 --> 00:28:09,009 - It was looking at the absolute totality of the evidence, 595 00:28:09,009 --> 00:28:12,578 no cherry-picking whatsoever, no study left out. 596 00:28:12,578 --> 00:28:14,481 So there's the Rose Corn Oil Trial, 597 00:28:14,481 --> 00:28:16,415 there's the Research Committee Low-Fat Diet, 598 00:28:16,415 --> 00:28:18,151 there's the MRC Soybean Study, 599 00:28:18,151 --> 00:28:20,619 there's the LA Veterans Dayton Study, 600 00:28:20,619 --> 00:28:23,089 there's Leren Oslo Study. 601 00:28:23,089 --> 00:28:24,857 - [Dr. Mark] When she examined the results to see 602 00:28:24,857 --> 00:28:26,960 which group suffered more deaths, 603 00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:28,694 there was no difference at all. 604 00:28:28,694 --> 00:28:32,331 There was no health benefit for the groups assigned 605 00:28:32,331 --> 00:28:34,067 to eat a low-fat diet. 606 00:28:34,067 --> 00:28:36,368 - I was astonished to find that there simply 607 00:28:36,368 --> 00:28:38,070 was no evidence. 608 00:28:38,070 --> 00:28:42,009 - Real food fats are not dangerous, they are not the enemy. 609 00:28:42,009 --> 00:28:45,578 It's too simplistic and reductionist to say saturated fat 610 00:28:45,578 --> 00:28:47,280 is dangerous and needs to be avoided 611 00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:49,715 and the evidence does not support that. 612 00:28:49,715 --> 00:28:52,351 - So how then, without the hard science to back it up, 613 00:28:52,351 --> 00:28:55,488 did the diet-heart hypothesis become the foundation 614 00:28:55,488 --> 00:28:58,024 of our nation's dietary guidelines? 615 00:28:58,024 --> 00:29:00,092 Well, it had one big thing going for it, 616 00:29:00,092 --> 00:29:02,294 Ancel Benjamin Keys. 617 00:29:02,294 --> 00:29:05,764 - He had just a very outsized personality, 618 00:29:05,764 --> 00:29:08,467 colleagues of his told me he could just argue anyone 619 00:29:08,467 --> 00:29:09,970 to the death. 620 00:29:09,970 --> 00:29:13,339 And he was able to get into the American Heart Association 621 00:29:13,339 --> 00:29:14,974 on the Nutrition Committee. 622 00:29:14,974 --> 00:29:18,078 And in 1961, the Heart Association comes out 623 00:29:18,078 --> 00:29:20,813 with the first advice anywhere in the world telling people 624 00:29:20,813 --> 00:29:23,183 to cut back on saturated fat and cholesterol 625 00:29:23,183 --> 00:29:25,018 in order to prevent a heart attack. 626 00:29:27,119 --> 00:29:28,721 - [Dr. Mark] Up until the 1960s, 627 00:29:28,721 --> 00:29:30,522 Americans consumed almost half 628 00:29:30,522 --> 00:29:32,724 of their daily calories as fat. 629 00:29:32,724 --> 00:29:35,828 We ate butter without guilt, bacon and eggs for breakfast 630 00:29:35,828 --> 00:29:37,396 and roasts for dinner. 631 00:29:37,396 --> 00:29:40,867 Exercise gyms were barely a thought and still, 632 00:29:40,867 --> 00:29:42,635 we were relatively slim. 633 00:29:42,635 --> 00:29:44,838 - Conventional wisdom until the 1960s 634 00:29:44,838 --> 00:29:46,606 was carbohydrates were fattening, 635 00:29:46,606 --> 00:29:48,040 that's the weird thing about it. 636 00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:52,244 So you talk about bread, pasta, potatoes, rice, sweets, 637 00:29:52,244 --> 00:29:53,680 going directly to your hips. 638 00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:58,151 It was what my mothers generation believed growing up. 639 00:29:58,151 --> 00:30:00,988 - [Narrator] The diet used in this study is satisfying 640 00:30:00,988 --> 00:30:04,424 to the appetite because of the use of more protein and fat. 641 00:30:04,424 --> 00:30:06,926 - And then in the 1960s, we come along with this idea 642 00:30:06,926 --> 00:30:09,761 that dietary fat causes heart disease. 643 00:30:09,761 --> 00:30:14,067 In 20 years, from the 1960s to the mid-1980s, 644 00:30:14,067 --> 00:30:17,069 the carbohydrate went from fattening 645 00:30:17,069 --> 00:30:19,372 to a heart-healthy diet food. 646 00:30:19,372 --> 00:30:21,974 - [Dr. Mark] The low-fat diet fad had taken hold 647 00:30:21,974 --> 00:30:24,043 and Keys rose to prominence 648 00:30:24,043 --> 00:30:25,712 within the American Heart Association 649 00:30:25,712 --> 00:30:28,447 and at the National Institutes of Health. 650 00:30:28,447 --> 00:30:31,350 - If you only lived in America, you'd think this controversy 651 00:30:31,350 --> 00:30:34,954 was pretty settled, that obviously saturated fat 652 00:30:34,954 --> 00:30:37,389 causes heart disease, 'cause it raises cholesterol 653 00:30:37,389 --> 00:30:39,326 and we all know cholesterol clogs the arteries. 654 00:30:39,326 --> 00:30:44,297 But there was a alternative hypothesis going on across 655 00:30:45,065 --> 00:30:47,000 the pond in England. 656 00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:50,169 - There was always this competing theory that it was sugar 657 00:30:50,169 --> 00:30:52,405 and not fat that might cause heart disease, 658 00:30:52,405 --> 00:30:55,707 and the leading proponent of that was John Yudkin 659 00:30:55,707 --> 00:30:57,743 and he published about that. 660 00:30:57,743 --> 00:31:01,447 And I think this is an extraordinary example 661 00:31:01,447 --> 00:31:05,784 of how nutrition science did or did not really work 662 00:31:05,784 --> 00:31:07,988 in America because rather than say, 663 00:31:07,988 --> 00:31:09,521 oh, this is an interesting competing theory, 664 00:31:09,521 --> 00:31:10,790 let's explore that. 665 00:31:10,790 --> 00:31:13,126 Maybe they're right, maybe we're wrong. 666 00:31:13,126 --> 00:31:16,930 Their reaction instead was to just bully him, 667 00:31:16,930 --> 00:31:18,530 really bully him out of the field. 668 00:31:18,530 --> 00:31:21,733 - And Ancel Keys literally destroyed his reputation. 669 00:31:21,733 --> 00:31:23,536 He went after him, he did everything 670 00:31:23,536 --> 00:31:26,572 but call his mother names. 671 00:31:26,572 --> 00:31:29,608 - And I think Ancel Keys knew that this hypothesis competed 672 00:31:29,608 --> 00:31:33,512 with his own, and he did not want that to succeed. 673 00:31:33,512 --> 00:31:36,249 He wanted his hypothesis to be successful. 674 00:31:36,249 --> 00:31:39,618 - Not surprisingly, the sugar industry also preferred 675 00:31:39,618 --> 00:31:42,688 to point the finger at saturated fat. 676 00:31:42,688 --> 00:31:45,692 Recently discovered documents reveal that in 1965, 677 00:31:45,692 --> 00:31:48,761 the sugar industry paid prominent Harvard researchers 678 00:31:48,761 --> 00:31:50,497 to do just that. 679 00:31:50,497 --> 00:31:54,267 And they were very specifically paid $50,000, 680 00:31:54,267 --> 00:31:58,004 in today's dollars, to produce two articles 681 00:31:58,004 --> 00:32:02,309 that exonerated sugar and fingered saturated fat 682 00:32:02,309 --> 00:32:05,677 as the cause of cardiovascular disease. 683 00:32:05,677 --> 00:32:08,315 We know that because we have the paper trail. 684 00:32:08,315 --> 00:32:12,118 We have their names on the documents. 685 00:32:12,118 --> 00:32:14,721 - This is unconscionable. 686 00:32:14,721 --> 00:32:16,322 - The sugar industry's job was 687 00:32:16,322 --> 00:32:20,527 to get the nutrition community to say publicly 688 00:32:20,527 --> 00:32:23,163 what they believed to be true, which was dietary fat was 689 00:32:23,163 --> 00:32:26,598 the problem, not sugar and they paid researchers to do that 690 00:32:26,598 --> 00:32:28,501 and they were very successful with getting 691 00:32:28,501 --> 00:32:30,136 that message across. 692 00:32:30,136 --> 00:32:33,173 - [Dr. Mark] In 1977, a Senate Select Committee headed up 693 00:32:33,173 --> 00:32:37,743 by Senator George Mcgovern, helped seal fat's fate. 694 00:32:37,743 --> 00:32:40,879 Over the objection of scientists who pleaded against it, 695 00:32:40,879 --> 00:32:43,215 and with no hard evidence to back it up, 696 00:32:43,215 --> 00:32:47,087 the committee recommended the low-fat diet to the nation. 697 00:32:47,087 --> 00:32:48,620 - [Dr. Robert] I have pleaded in my report 698 00:32:48,620 --> 00:32:51,624 and I will plead again orally here for more research 699 00:32:51,624 --> 00:32:53,425 on the problem before we make announcements 700 00:32:53,425 --> 00:32:55,095 to the American public. 701 00:32:55,095 --> 00:32:57,730 - [Senator George] I would only argue that senators don't 702 00:32:57,730 --> 00:33:00,466 have the luxury that a research scientist does, 703 00:33:00,466 --> 00:33:04,936 of waiting until every last shred of evidence is in. 704 00:33:04,936 --> 00:33:07,839 - Mcgovern just wanted to make the statement and he said, 705 00:33:07,839 --> 00:33:10,342 "We haven't got time to wait for the evidence." 706 00:33:10,342 --> 00:33:12,311 - They recognized the science is unsettled 707 00:33:12,311 --> 00:33:13,812 and then the counterargument is, 708 00:33:13,812 --> 00:33:16,049 but we cannot afford to wait. 709 00:33:16,049 --> 00:33:18,917 - And so they went without any evidence, 710 00:33:18,917 --> 00:33:21,553 and despite the fact that many people had warned 711 00:33:21,553 --> 00:33:24,523 that this is gonna cause an obesity, diabetes epidemic. 712 00:33:24,523 --> 00:33:26,992 They were warned but they ignored it. 713 00:33:26,992 --> 00:33:29,729 - [Dr. Mark] In 1980, the U.S. government triggered 714 00:33:29,729 --> 00:33:32,331 a radical shift in the diet of Americans 715 00:33:32,331 --> 00:33:37,337 when the campaign against fat became official food policy. 716 00:33:38,771 --> 00:33:39,972 - [Dr. Nina] The first dietary guidelines recommended seven 717 00:33:39,972 --> 00:33:44,376 to 11 servings of bread basically every day. 718 00:33:44,376 --> 00:33:46,846 50 to 55% of your calories are supposed to come 719 00:33:46,846 --> 00:33:49,882 from carbohydrates, mostly grains. 720 00:33:49,882 --> 00:33:51,751 - [Dr. Mark] For the first time anywhere in the world, 721 00:33:51,751 --> 00:33:56,155 our government endorsed a massive increase in carbohydrates 722 00:33:56,155 --> 00:33:58,290 and slashed saturated fat consumption 723 00:33:58,290 --> 00:34:01,194 to less than 10% of daily calories. 724 00:34:01,194 --> 00:34:05,397 - The American guideline started with a very high-carb, 725 00:34:05,397 --> 00:34:09,968 low-fat approach which was disastrous for putting 726 00:34:09,968 --> 00:34:14,274 that out into an entire population without evidence saying 727 00:34:14,274 --> 00:34:15,742 that it was healthy. 728 00:34:15,742 --> 00:34:18,910 - Obesity in America had been slowly creeping up 729 00:34:21,414 --> 00:34:26,419 from the mid 1900s on, but 1980 you see it go sharply, 730 00:34:27,153 --> 00:34:28,388 turn sharply upwards. 731 00:34:28,388 --> 00:34:30,622 - And then it just takes off like an airplane. 732 00:34:30,622 --> 00:34:33,926 So you just want to ask, well, what happened around then? 733 00:34:33,926 --> 00:34:37,930 - What happened in 1980 is that the U.S. government 734 00:34:37,930 --> 00:34:40,867 told all Americans, cut back on fat 735 00:34:40,867 --> 00:34:43,102 and increase your carbohydrates. 736 00:34:43,102 --> 00:34:46,738 - It could be complete coincidence, that that just happened 737 00:34:46,738 --> 00:34:50,910 to coincide but it sure as anything needs looking at 738 00:34:50,910 --> 00:34:53,713 to see if it is just coincidence. 739 00:34:53,713 --> 00:34:58,718 - When we took the fat out of the food, what did we do? 740 00:35:00,118 --> 00:35:04,122 We put something in which was way worse, sugar. 741 00:35:04,890 --> 00:35:06,359 * One, two and twist 742 00:35:06,359 --> 00:35:08,461 - [Narrator] Reduced Fat Oreo, less fat, loads of taste. 743 00:35:08,461 --> 00:35:09,928 New, reduced fat browning muffin 744 00:35:09,928 --> 00:35:12,664 and cake mixes from Pillsbury, try the new frosting, too. 745 00:35:12,664 --> 00:35:15,502 Hershey's Syrup is virtually fat free. 746 00:35:15,502 --> 00:35:17,002 - Terrific! 747 00:35:17,002 --> 00:35:20,240 - I mean, let's face it, fat tastes good, we know that. 748 00:35:20,240 --> 00:35:23,510 And if you're gonna remove the fat from a food, 749 00:35:23,510 --> 00:35:26,278 you're gonna have to replace it with something else 750 00:35:26,278 --> 00:35:27,647 that gives people pleasure. 751 00:35:27,647 --> 00:35:29,415 - [Narrator] As new simple pleasures is made 752 00:35:29,415 --> 00:35:32,752 with all natural Simplesse, instead of fat. 753 00:35:32,752 --> 00:35:34,287 - And what did they put in? 754 00:35:34,287 --> 00:35:38,424 Refined carbohydrates, increased sugar, and boom, 755 00:35:38,424 --> 00:35:41,827 we've got an explosion of processed foods. 756 00:35:41,827 --> 00:35:44,030 - [Narrator] So irresistible, people are sinking 757 00:35:44,030 --> 00:35:46,598 to a new low to get their hands on one. 758 00:35:46,598 --> 00:35:49,368 Continental yogurt is non-fat, no low-fat, but non-fat. 759 00:35:50,669 --> 00:35:51,537 - No fat?! 760 00:35:51,537 --> 00:35:52,805 - How'd they do that? 761 00:35:52,805 --> 00:35:55,040 - Ultimately, sugar was a bigger problem 762 00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:57,343 than saturated fat ever was. 763 00:35:57,343 --> 00:36:00,280 - The industry learned that if they took fat out the diet, 764 00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:02,414 they had to replace it with sugar and then learned 765 00:36:02,414 --> 00:36:03,816 that sugar was addictive. 766 00:36:03,816 --> 00:36:05,318 - Whoa, these are really good. 767 00:36:05,318 --> 00:36:06,151 - These are great. 768 00:36:06,151 --> 00:36:06,986 - Bring 'em on. 769 00:36:06,986 --> 00:36:08,220 - Oh, yeah. 770 00:36:08,220 --> 00:36:09,988 - And that's the drive of the obesity epidemic. 771 00:36:09,988 --> 00:36:12,091 - [Dr. Nina] Low-fat yogurt higher in sugar. 772 00:36:12,091 --> 00:36:13,260 - Whoa! 773 00:36:13,260 --> 00:36:14,060 - [Dr. Nina] Low-fat peanut butter. 774 00:36:14,060 --> 00:36:15,261 - This is special. 775 00:36:15,261 --> 00:36:16,162 - [Dr. Nina] low-fat salad dressing. 776 00:36:16,162 --> 00:36:17,330 - This is great! 777 00:36:17,330 --> 00:36:18,631 - [Dr. Nina] All higher in sugar or carbs. 778 00:36:18,631 --> 00:36:20,165 - Are you sure this fat-free? 779 00:36:20,165 --> 00:36:22,801 - All low-fat foods turned out to be higher in carbs. 780 00:36:22,801 --> 00:36:25,372 - I don't think this was anyone's intention, 781 00:36:25,372 --> 00:36:28,575 but it's what naturally happens when you remove fat, 782 00:36:28,575 --> 00:36:31,010 which is natural for humans to be eating, 783 00:36:31,010 --> 00:36:35,381 from their dietary choices and you put them on things 784 00:36:35,381 --> 00:36:37,048 instead of tasting like cardboard, 785 00:36:37,048 --> 00:36:39,452 they can at least taste like sweet cardboard. 786 00:36:40,553 --> 00:36:42,789 - SnackWell's, Chocolate Sandwich Cookies. 787 00:36:42,789 --> 00:36:44,223 - These taste unbelievable, 788 00:36:44,223 --> 00:36:45,492 what if I can't bake enough of them? 789 00:36:45,492 --> 00:36:47,294 - Those women will be after me again. 790 00:36:48,495 --> 00:36:51,263 - Hello, cookie-man, what's in the box? 791 00:36:51,263 --> 00:36:54,100 - We have the SnackWell phenomenon was like the epitome 792 00:36:54,100 --> 00:36:56,635 of what happened with the low-fat food industry, 793 00:36:56,635 --> 00:36:59,839 where people thought they could just eat massive amounts 794 00:36:59,839 --> 00:37:01,307 of these cookies. 795 00:37:01,307 --> 00:37:02,841 - Don't you think you get a little carried away? 796 00:37:02,841 --> 00:37:06,011 - [Dr. Nina] They were very high in sugar and white flour. 797 00:37:06,011 --> 00:37:08,680 - Cookie-man, you'd better make some more (laughs). 798 00:37:10,783 --> 00:37:12,852 - [Dr. Mark] The American Heart Association cashed 799 00:37:12,852 --> 00:37:14,586 in on the low-fat craze. 800 00:37:14,586 --> 00:37:17,589 Food companies paid hundreds of thousands of dollars 801 00:37:17,589 --> 00:37:21,127 to feature this heart-healthy check-off symbol on a product. 802 00:37:21,127 --> 00:37:23,796 - So this resulted in crazy things like heart check-off 803 00:37:23,796 --> 00:37:27,033 on Cocoa Krispies, or Honey Nut Cheerios, 804 00:37:27,033 --> 00:37:30,702 or on all these foods that were super high in sugar, 805 00:37:30,702 --> 00:37:31,671 but as long as they were low in fat 806 00:37:31,671 --> 00:37:33,705 then it was considered healthy. 807 00:37:33,705 --> 00:37:34,973 - Kellogg's Fruit Loops Cereal, 808 00:37:34,973 --> 00:37:36,676 part of this nutritious breakfast. 809 00:37:38,510 --> 00:37:41,113 Now that's the seal of approval. 810 00:37:41,113 --> 00:37:43,883 - [Dr. Mark] Heart-healthy, low-fat fruit loops, anyone? 811 00:37:45,352 --> 00:37:47,185 - [Dr. Nina] There's a kind of conventional explanation 812 00:37:47,185 --> 00:37:49,522 that it's really the fault of Americans 813 00:37:49,522 --> 00:37:50,756 for not following the guidelines, 814 00:37:50,756 --> 00:37:52,290 there's nothing wrong with our guidelines, 815 00:37:52,290 --> 00:37:54,394 it's just that Americans fail to follow them. 816 00:37:54,394 --> 00:37:55,794 - [Dr. Mark] But government consumption data 817 00:37:55,794 --> 00:37:58,330 confirms Americans did as they were told 818 00:37:58,330 --> 00:38:01,568 and dutifully cut back on natural fats found in red meat, 819 00:38:01,568 --> 00:38:04,236 whole milk, eggs, animal fats and butter, 820 00:38:04,236 --> 00:38:06,506 but we still gained weight. 821 00:38:06,506 --> 00:38:08,341 - One of the analogies that I like to use, 822 00:38:08,341 --> 00:38:10,910 just imagine you had a baseball team 823 00:38:10,910 --> 00:38:15,781 that lost every single game for the last 50, 60 years. 824 00:38:17,617 --> 00:38:18,850 And you're like, well, those players, 825 00:38:18,850 --> 00:38:20,118 they just don't know how to play. 826 00:38:20,118 --> 00:38:21,354 None of my players know how to play. 827 00:38:21,354 --> 00:38:22,854 Well, at some point you'd have to say, 828 00:38:22,854 --> 00:38:25,357 maybe we should take a look at our coaching strategy. 829 00:38:27,059 --> 00:38:30,597 It can't be the fault of all of those players for decades 830 00:38:30,597 --> 00:38:32,064 but that's basically our explanation 831 00:38:32,064 --> 00:38:35,502 for why Americans are getting fatter and sicker, 832 00:38:35,502 --> 00:38:36,435 it's their fault. 833 00:38:36,435 --> 00:38:37,803 They just can't do it right. 834 00:38:37,803 --> 00:38:39,338 - I think the dietary guidelines have been 835 00:38:39,338 --> 00:38:42,107 a tremendous failed experiment. 836 00:38:42,107 --> 00:38:45,310 It's a good question of whether they just need to be changed 837 00:38:45,310 --> 00:38:48,680 or whether they just need to be scrapped and start over. 838 00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:51,049 - I genuinely believe that people now are hanging 839 00:38:51,049 --> 00:38:54,120 onto the saturated fat myth because they don't want to admit 840 00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:55,522 that they were wrong. 841 00:38:55,522 --> 00:38:57,256 - I don't think the governments will ever admit 842 00:38:57,256 --> 00:38:59,325 they were wrong about saturated fat. 843 00:38:59,325 --> 00:39:01,327 - We are paying a hell of a price 844 00:39:01,327 --> 00:39:03,995 for a few public health people wanting 845 00:39:03,995 --> 00:39:07,667 to protect their own reputation, not wanting to look silly. 846 00:39:07,667 --> 00:39:10,970 - I used to fantasize about the American Heart Association, 847 00:39:10,970 --> 00:39:14,774 press release that would say, okay, yes, we know 848 00:39:14,774 --> 00:39:19,211 for the past almost 60 years we've been giving you 849 00:39:19,211 --> 00:39:23,515 the wrong advice and we apologize if we killed any 850 00:39:23,515 --> 00:39:26,419 of your loved ones prematurely 851 00:39:26,419 --> 00:39:28,521 and we apologize if we gave you heart disease 852 00:39:28,521 --> 00:39:30,823 with the advice we did give you. 853 00:39:30,823 --> 00:39:33,359 We were just telling you what we thought was true then 854 00:39:33,359 --> 00:39:37,062 and we were best of intention and now we know better. 855 00:39:37,062 --> 00:39:39,531 - That apology may never come 856 00:39:39,531 --> 00:39:41,767 and the largest health organizations dedicated 857 00:39:41,767 --> 00:39:45,271 to preventing obesity and type 2 diabetes continue 858 00:39:45,271 --> 00:39:48,073 to spread advice that makes it worse. 859 00:39:55,347 --> 00:39:58,249 - Type 2 diabetes we were always taught is a chronic 860 00:39:58,249 --> 00:40:02,254 and irreversible disease, inevitably progressive. 861 00:40:02,254 --> 00:40:05,223 I flatly rejected that, I flatly rejected. 862 00:40:05,223 --> 00:40:09,461 So it is chronic, irreversible, and inevitably progressive 863 00:40:09,461 --> 00:40:13,899 if you take the guidelines currently in place 864 00:40:13,899 --> 00:40:16,535 and utilize them as your treatment plan. 865 00:40:16,535 --> 00:40:18,537 (keyboard typing) 866 00:40:18,537 --> 00:40:21,140 - [Dr. Mark] For years, the American Diabetes Association 867 00:40:21,140 --> 00:40:23,274 has promoted low-fat diets. 868 00:40:23,274 --> 00:40:26,077 They use this handy graphic illustration called 869 00:40:26,077 --> 00:40:28,814 the Diabetic Plate, which features limited amounts 870 00:40:28,814 --> 00:40:32,818 of lean meat, non-fat dairy products and 50% 871 00:40:32,818 --> 00:40:36,022 or more of daily calories as carbohydrates. 872 00:40:36,022 --> 00:40:39,024 - I think the Diabetic Plate is a prescription 873 00:40:39,024 --> 00:40:40,727 for worsening of the disease. 874 00:40:40,727 --> 00:40:42,629 If you really look at the Diabetic Plate, 875 00:40:42,629 --> 00:40:47,600 it is 3/4 carbohydrates, which makes no sense. 876 00:40:48,367 --> 00:40:50,903 It also is lean protein, 877 00:40:50,903 --> 00:40:53,104 so when we look at the Diabetic Plate as a whole, 878 00:40:53,104 --> 00:40:55,073 there's almost no fats. 879 00:40:57,577 --> 00:41:01,680 - This is a way to make people sicker and fatter. 880 00:41:02,714 --> 00:41:04,049 This is the advice I was giving, 881 00:41:04,049 --> 00:41:05,618 this is the advice that doesn't work. 882 00:41:05,618 --> 00:41:08,988 This is the advice that prescribes more medications, 883 00:41:08,988 --> 00:41:11,022 this is the advice that increases insulin. 884 00:41:11,022 --> 00:41:13,626 But really it's a metabolic shift when you burn fat 885 00:41:13,626 --> 00:41:15,327 instead of burning sugar. 886 00:41:15,327 --> 00:41:17,863 - [Dr. Mark] Alyssa Gallagher is Judi's dietician. 887 00:41:17,863 --> 00:41:21,568 She was initially trained in the low-fat paradigm. 888 00:41:21,568 --> 00:41:25,604 - When I first started exploring the low-carb approach. 889 00:41:25,604 --> 00:41:28,740 - [Judi] That's really low-carb, I can use that. 890 00:41:28,740 --> 00:41:31,377 - I helped people genuinely, 891 00:41:31,377 --> 00:41:33,245 for the first time in my career. 892 00:41:33,245 --> 00:41:34,847 - I'm going for real food now, 893 00:41:34,847 --> 00:41:36,749 so I can get rid of all of this. 894 00:41:36,749 --> 00:41:39,118 - In the old days, I was frustrated 895 00:41:39,118 --> 00:41:43,055 that the advice I was giving wasn't working for people. 896 00:41:44,557 --> 00:41:48,627 - Oh, chips and crackers, where is that garbage can? 897 00:41:48,627 --> 00:41:51,698 - I was taught, essentially what 898 00:41:51,698 --> 00:41:56,669 the American Diabetes Association teaches is carbohydrates, 899 00:41:58,037 --> 00:42:00,673 consistent carbohydrates, more whole grains. 900 00:42:00,673 --> 00:42:05,310 - No oatmeal, they used to tell us that was good for you. 901 00:42:05,310 --> 00:42:07,513 - I was taught saturated fat is bad for you. 902 00:42:08,580 --> 00:42:11,818 Saturated fat is something to be avoided 903 00:42:11,818 --> 00:42:14,653 and limited at all costs. 904 00:42:15,854 --> 00:42:17,388 - [Dr. Mark] The problem is, when you remove fat 905 00:42:17,388 --> 00:42:21,827 from the diet, you have to eat something else instead 906 00:42:21,827 --> 00:42:26,832 and that something else is often carbohydrates. 907 00:42:27,700 --> 00:42:28,935 - At first I didn't understand 908 00:42:28,935 --> 00:42:30,970 why the advice I was giving wasn't working. 909 00:42:31,838 --> 00:42:33,472 It's what I learned in school. 910 00:42:33,472 --> 00:42:35,106 I'm the nutrition expert, right? 911 00:42:35,106 --> 00:42:36,709 It should be working. 912 00:42:36,709 --> 00:42:40,111 And then eventually it started not making sense to me. 913 00:42:40,111 --> 00:42:42,247 Why am I telling somebody with diabetes 914 00:42:42,247 --> 00:42:44,816 that they must eat carbohydrates? 915 00:42:46,185 --> 00:42:47,118 It didn't make any sense. 916 00:42:47,118 --> 00:42:49,055 Carbohydrates raise blood sugar, 917 00:42:49,055 --> 00:42:50,321 when you have higher blood sugars, 918 00:42:50,321 --> 00:42:52,158 we need to give you more medication. 919 00:42:52,158 --> 00:42:55,493 When we give you more medication, you gain weight. 920 00:42:55,493 --> 00:42:57,396 When you gain weight, you need more medication, 921 00:42:57,396 --> 00:43:00,231 you wanna eat more carbs, it became a vicious cycle. 922 00:43:00,231 --> 00:43:03,169 - Okay, I think I'm done cleaning out my pantry. 923 00:43:03,169 --> 00:43:06,104 - An insulin resistance is essentially a state 924 00:43:06,104 --> 00:43:08,307 of carbohydrate intolerance. 925 00:43:08,307 --> 00:43:12,211 So why or why do we wanna continue to recommend 926 00:43:12,211 --> 00:43:15,046 to people to eat them? 927 00:43:15,046 --> 00:43:17,216 - [Dr. Mark] Sarah Hallberg is a physician leading arguably 928 00:43:17,216 --> 00:43:21,419 the most promising trial ever conducted on type 2 diabetes. 929 00:43:21,419 --> 00:43:23,522 She's helped hundreds of patients safely 930 00:43:23,522 --> 00:43:26,926 and sustainably reverse their diabetes diagnosis, 931 00:43:26,926 --> 00:43:29,761 often, getting off of all medications 932 00:43:29,761 --> 00:43:33,131 by cutting carbohydrates and increasing their fat intake, 933 00:43:33,131 --> 00:43:37,068 a lot, to as much as 70 to 80% of their daily calories. 934 00:43:38,403 --> 00:43:41,406 - The solution to the diabetes problem in my clinic 935 00:43:41,406 --> 00:43:46,412 is exceedingly clear, stop using medicine to treat food. 936 00:43:48,347 --> 00:43:51,283 - [Dr. Mark] Her TED Talk on this unconventional approach 937 00:43:51,283 --> 00:43:53,852 has nearly five million views. 938 00:43:53,852 --> 00:43:57,423 The title, Reversing Type 2 diabetes starts 939 00:43:57,423 --> 00:43:59,959 with ignoring the guidelines. 940 00:43:59,959 --> 00:44:01,894 - Fat is central 941 00:44:01,894 --> 00:44:05,731 to any science-based nutrition recommendation 942 00:44:05,731 --> 00:44:09,001 for anyone who struggles with type 2 diabetes. 943 00:44:09,001 --> 00:44:13,372 Carbohydrates cause our insulin and glucose to go up, 944 00:44:13,372 --> 00:44:18,377 proteins much less, and with fat, there's no glucose 945 00:44:19,211 --> 00:44:21,013 or insulin reaction. 946 00:44:21,013 --> 00:44:25,383 And given the fact that type 2 diabetes is a problem 947 00:44:25,383 --> 00:44:28,754 with elevated glucose, wait a minute, 948 00:44:28,754 --> 00:44:32,258 we can't be recommending the macronutrient 949 00:44:32,258 --> 00:44:35,426 that's gonna cause glucose and insulin to go up, 950 00:44:35,426 --> 00:44:40,332 but that's exactly what MyPlate and the ADA guidelines do. 951 00:44:40,332 --> 00:44:43,803 They recommend us to eat the macronutrient 952 00:44:43,803 --> 00:44:45,972 that's causing the problem. 953 00:44:45,972 --> 00:44:49,307 - [Dr. Mark] In her clinical trial of nearly 500 patients, 954 00:44:49,307 --> 00:44:52,243 60% of the intervention group reversed 955 00:44:52,243 --> 00:44:54,312 their diagnosis of diabetes. 956 00:44:54,312 --> 00:44:56,348 That's more than half the patients 957 00:44:56,348 --> 00:44:58,850 whose blood sugars normalized. 958 00:44:58,850 --> 00:45:03,388 94% had their insulin doses decreased or totally eliminated 959 00:45:03,388 --> 00:45:07,325 with no increase in their LDL or lousy cholesterol. 960 00:45:07,325 --> 00:45:10,897 By comparison, the American Diabetes Association reports 961 00:45:10,897 --> 00:45:14,867 a less than 1% success rate at reversing diabetes 962 00:45:14,867 --> 00:45:18,370 when following their own, low-fat advice. 963 00:45:18,370 --> 00:45:22,307 - So if we want people to really get help, 964 00:45:22,307 --> 00:45:27,312 we have to start giving them advice that actually works. 965 00:45:28,747 --> 00:45:32,051 - It's hard when you have, let alone been hearing something 966 00:45:32,051 --> 00:45:35,021 for decades but been saying something for decades, 967 00:45:35,021 --> 00:45:37,488 it's difficult to turn that ship around. 968 00:45:37,488 --> 00:45:41,026 Because to turn that ship around you have to be vulnerable. 969 00:45:41,026 --> 00:45:44,196 You have to say, I was wrong. 970 00:45:44,196 --> 00:45:47,867 And this involves a lot of organizations, 971 00:45:47,867 --> 00:45:52,303 a lot of people saying I was wrong, and I think that's hard. 972 00:45:52,303 --> 00:45:53,604 I think that's a big deal. 973 00:45:55,006 --> 00:45:56,742 - [Dr. Mark] After years of following the guidelines 974 00:45:56,742 --> 00:45:59,778 and getting nowhere, Judi has decided 975 00:45:59,778 --> 00:46:01,848 to ignore the ADA's advice and try 976 00:46:01,848 --> 00:46:05,084 to reverse her type 2 diabetes with a low-carb, 977 00:46:05,084 --> 00:46:07,318 high-fat nutrition plan. 978 00:46:07,318 --> 00:46:09,287 - The health professionals that were giving us all 979 00:46:09,287 --> 00:46:13,091 that advice through the years just bounced us back 980 00:46:13,091 --> 00:46:15,794 and forth, and we never really had any answers. 981 00:46:15,794 --> 00:46:18,564 - I really like unsweetened coconut chips. 982 00:46:18,564 --> 00:46:23,568 - I feel like what I'm learning now is a way toward health 983 00:46:24,970 --> 00:46:27,874 and a way toward a better size that I'll feel good about 984 00:46:27,874 --> 00:46:30,776 which to me is hand in hand with my health. 985 00:46:33,178 --> 00:46:36,147 - The U.S. military is now facing a new threat. 986 00:46:36,147 --> 00:46:39,017 It's not North Korea, it is actually the U.S. diet. 987 00:46:39,017 --> 00:46:42,120 - The single biggest disqualifier is obesity. 988 00:46:42,988 --> 00:46:44,423 - Wait? 989 00:46:44,423 --> 00:46:45,756 We're talking about young people? 990 00:46:45,756 --> 00:46:47,359 - Right, youth obesity. 991 00:46:47,359 --> 00:46:50,562 - [Reporter] 25% of all potential recruits are turned away 992 00:46:50,562 --> 00:46:51,964 because of their weight. 993 00:46:54,499 --> 00:46:58,303 - At this point in time, we can't field an army, 994 00:46:59,470 --> 00:47:02,573 because they are "too fat to fight" 995 00:47:02,573 --> 00:47:05,944 that's not my words, that's the U.S. Army's words. 996 00:47:07,513 --> 00:47:10,348 - A few months ago, the army missed its recruitment goals 997 00:47:10,348 --> 00:47:12,584 for the first time in 13 years. 998 00:47:14,452 --> 00:47:17,122 We've gotten to a point where we're too fat 999 00:47:17,122 --> 00:47:18,490 to defend ourselves. 1000 00:47:25,430 --> 00:47:26,664 - [Dr. Mark] Captain Brian Gaudette 1001 00:47:26,664 --> 00:47:29,435 is an Apache helicopter pilot, an entrepreneur 1002 00:47:29,435 --> 00:47:30,769 and a living example 1003 00:47:30,769 --> 00:47:33,839 of why the U.S. Dietary Guidelines matter. 1004 00:47:33,839 --> 00:47:37,008 - [Brian Gaudette] Flying Apache helicopters is probably one 1005 00:47:37,008 --> 00:47:39,178 of the most fun things on the planet, 1006 00:47:39,178 --> 00:47:42,381 but it's also very high stakes. 1007 00:47:42,381 --> 00:47:46,517 You need all of your faculties to stay safe. 1008 00:47:46,517 --> 00:47:47,919 - [Dr. Mark] On high stakes missions, 1009 00:47:47,919 --> 00:47:49,620 often on the other side of the world, 1010 00:47:49,620 --> 00:47:51,923 Brian was confined to army food, 1011 00:47:51,923 --> 00:47:56,261 a diet dictated by the dietary guidelines. 1012 00:47:56,261 --> 00:47:59,397 - I always had sandwiches for lunch, 1013 00:47:59,397 --> 00:48:04,336 lots of noodle-based dishes, lots of rice-based dishes. 1014 00:48:05,736 --> 00:48:06,671 I was running about three or four times a week, 1015 00:48:06,671 --> 00:48:08,406 between three and five miles, 1016 00:48:08,406 --> 00:48:10,709 but the weight was still coming on. 1017 00:48:12,343 --> 00:48:16,982 One day I was in the cockpit, and I put my head down, 1018 00:48:16,982 --> 00:48:19,551 and it felt like the world was moving, 1019 00:48:19,551 --> 00:48:21,086 like the aircraft was moving. 1020 00:48:21,086 --> 00:48:24,423 I looked up really quick, and then I put my head down again. 1021 00:48:24,423 --> 00:48:29,428 I felt it again and so I kinda had to raise my hand and say, 1022 00:48:30,296 --> 00:48:31,830 hey, we have a problem here. 1023 00:48:31,830 --> 00:48:34,765 - [Dr. Mark] Brian knew he was sick, but he didn't know why. 1024 00:48:34,765 --> 00:48:36,801 He was grounded from flying. 1025 00:48:36,801 --> 00:48:40,839 - For the next eight months I went to every specialist. 1026 00:48:40,839 --> 00:48:42,740 - Do you have a brain tumor? 1027 00:48:42,740 --> 00:48:44,075 Is it an inner ear thing? 1028 00:48:44,075 --> 00:48:45,176 Is there a cardiac issue? 1029 00:48:45,176 --> 00:48:46,711 Is there a neurological issue? 1030 00:48:46,711 --> 00:48:48,546 - And they said, "You know, Brian, 1031 00:48:48,546 --> 00:48:50,848 "sometimes stress does weird stuff to the body," 1032 00:48:50,848 --> 00:48:54,019 and handed me a card for mental health. 1033 00:48:54,019 --> 00:48:56,888 - [Dr. Mark] Not one medical specialist asked Brian 1034 00:48:56,888 --> 00:48:58,124 about his nutrition. 1035 00:48:58,124 --> 00:48:59,457 - And they were just like, 1036 00:48:59,457 --> 00:49:03,461 "Sorry, that's about all we can do for you." 1037 00:49:03,461 --> 00:49:05,696 So there was a turning point where I was like, 1038 00:49:05,696 --> 00:49:08,299 okay, well, we've got to figure this out on our own. 1039 00:49:16,341 --> 00:49:18,243 - [Dr. Mark] Brian decided to try an elimination diet 1040 00:49:18,243 --> 00:49:21,546 and he cut out all grains and sugar. 1041 00:49:21,546 --> 00:49:23,814 - For really, just efficiency and for taste, 1042 00:49:23,814 --> 00:49:28,720 I made these giant batches of bone broth, vegetable, 1043 00:49:28,720 --> 00:49:33,392 and meat soups, and I just ate them pretty much every day 1044 00:49:33,392 --> 00:49:34,792 and that's where sort of the nickname, 1045 00:49:34,792 --> 00:49:36,662 Captain Soup, came from. 1046 00:49:36,662 --> 00:49:39,997 In about six weeks, I got my brain back, 1047 00:49:39,997 --> 00:49:44,269 I got my energy back, I lost about 25 pounds. 1048 00:49:44,269 --> 00:49:46,405 - I started to see my husband come back. 1049 00:49:46,405 --> 00:49:50,408 I started to see my children's father come back. 1050 00:49:50,408 --> 00:49:53,611 It's miraculous to me what just food can do. 1051 00:49:54,780 --> 00:49:56,314 - [Dr. Mark] Just by changing what he ate, 1052 00:49:56,314 --> 00:49:58,417 Brian's health problems resolved. 1053 00:49:58,417 --> 00:50:00,618 He no longer takes any medication, 1054 00:50:00,618 --> 00:50:02,321 he's back to his high school weight, 1055 00:50:02,321 --> 00:50:05,890 and the army has reinstated his flight status. 1056 00:50:05,890 --> 00:50:09,361 And now he's sharing his recipe for health with the world. 1057 00:50:09,361 --> 00:50:12,631 - [Brian Gaudette] Now we make just super-clean keto soups, 1058 00:50:12,631 --> 00:50:15,767 and we ship them frozen all over the country. 1059 00:50:15,767 --> 00:50:17,736 - [Dr. Mark] These days, when Brian goes on deployment, 1060 00:50:17,736 --> 00:50:19,905 he ships ahead cases of soup, 1061 00:50:19,905 --> 00:50:24,443 he no longer relies on the army food that made him so sick. 1062 00:50:24,443 --> 00:50:27,312 - When my son was born, I was really sick 1063 00:50:27,312 --> 00:50:30,415 and I look back at photos from that time 1064 00:50:30,415 --> 00:50:34,553 and I barely remember anything about that year, 1065 00:50:34,553 --> 00:50:38,089 because I was so out of it, sorry. 1066 00:50:39,591 --> 00:50:41,026 And when you don't have energy 1067 00:50:41,026 --> 00:50:43,328 and you don't have your health, 1068 00:50:43,328 --> 00:50:45,062 you don't really have anything. 1069 00:50:47,098 --> 00:50:49,234 I have my brain back, I have my energy back 1070 00:50:49,234 --> 00:50:52,703 and I can show up and be there for my kids 1071 00:50:52,703 --> 00:50:54,406 and for my wife like I wanna be. 1072 00:50:58,144 --> 00:51:00,412 - Today, less than 20% of medical schools 1073 00:51:00,412 --> 00:51:02,314 require nutrition training for physicians 1074 00:51:02,314 --> 00:51:04,850 and that's slowly changing, but a widespread lack 1075 00:51:04,850 --> 00:51:08,120 of nutrition knowledge means many physicians misunderstand 1076 00:51:08,120 --> 00:51:11,289 the root causes of chronic and metabolic diseases 1077 00:51:11,289 --> 00:51:13,124 which are often driven by diet. 1078 00:51:16,194 --> 00:51:18,597 - When a physician preaches low-fat 1079 00:51:18,597 --> 00:51:21,966 and a physician preaches reducing calories 1080 00:51:21,966 --> 00:51:25,937 and they try that themselves, it doesn't take long for some 1081 00:51:25,937 --> 00:51:28,207 of them to realize, this isn't working for me, 1082 00:51:28,207 --> 00:51:30,542 maybe it's not working for my patients, either. 1083 00:51:31,443 --> 00:51:32,310 - Hi. 1084 00:51:32,310 --> 00:51:33,144 - Hi. 1085 00:51:33,144 --> 00:51:33,979 - How are you doing? 1086 00:51:33,979 --> 00:51:35,481 - Good. 1087 00:51:35,481 --> 00:51:37,048 - [Dr. Mark] Physicians are not immune to obesity. 1088 00:51:37,048 --> 00:51:40,685 Plenty of them struggle with their own health challenges. 1089 00:51:40,685 --> 00:51:42,120 - Until two years ago, 1090 00:51:42,120 --> 00:51:45,524 I was trying to do the American Diabetes Association diet, 1091 00:51:45,524 --> 00:51:46,758 the American Heart Association, 1092 00:51:46,758 --> 00:51:49,093 trying to eat a low-fat diet, 1093 00:51:49,093 --> 00:51:50,861 eating small meals throughout the day 1094 00:51:50,861 --> 00:51:52,198 and I'm gaining weight. 1095 00:51:52,198 --> 00:51:54,832 Up, two, up, three. 1096 00:51:54,832 --> 00:51:56,334 I was working out six days a week 1097 00:51:56,334 --> 00:51:58,604 because I would say I gotta work out if I wanna lose weight, 1098 00:51:58,604 --> 00:52:00,406 I wanna be an example to my patients. 1099 00:52:00,406 --> 00:52:02,973 You're exercising but like they say, 1100 00:52:02,973 --> 00:52:04,310 you can't outrun your fork. 1101 00:52:05,743 --> 00:52:08,314 - [Dr. Mark] Like many docs, Brian Lenzkes was trained 1102 00:52:08,314 --> 00:52:11,082 in the low-fat paradigm and that's what he practiced 1103 00:52:11,082 --> 00:52:12,618 with his patients for decades. 1104 00:52:13,752 --> 00:52:15,220 But the struggle with his own weight 1105 00:52:15,220 --> 00:52:17,122 was getting out of control. 1106 00:52:17,122 --> 00:52:19,990 - Yeah, at that point I was around 260 pounds, 1107 00:52:19,990 --> 00:52:22,627 and at that time I was also pre-diabetic. 1108 00:52:22,627 --> 00:52:24,463 Clearly what I was doing wasn't working. 1109 00:52:24,463 --> 00:52:26,464 I was following the government guidelines 1110 00:52:26,464 --> 00:52:28,299 and I was getting sicker and sicker. 1111 00:52:28,299 --> 00:52:31,068 And it's not working for me, well, 1112 00:52:31,068 --> 00:52:32,537 were my patients not listening to me 1113 00:52:32,537 --> 00:52:34,705 or was I giving them bad advice? 1114 00:52:34,705 --> 00:52:37,209 And it turns out we were giving bad advice. 1115 00:52:37,209 --> 00:52:40,479 - Honey, I got a mixture of chicken, 1116 00:52:40,479 --> 00:52:44,615 Italian seasoned sausage and a spicy pork. 1117 00:52:44,615 --> 00:52:46,952 - So when I cut carbohydrates the interesting thing for me, 1118 00:52:46,952 --> 00:52:49,053 if I had eggs for breakfast for instance, 1119 00:52:49,053 --> 00:52:51,122 my ten o'clock snack that I was gonna have, 1120 00:52:51,122 --> 00:52:53,459 I wasn't hungry and I would skip right through it. 1121 00:52:54,825 --> 00:52:56,528 Within the first six months I was down 1122 00:52:56,528 --> 00:52:59,097 about 28 pounds, 30 pounds. 1123 00:52:59,097 --> 00:53:01,031 I was putting on muscle mass and I was feeling really good. 1124 00:53:01,031 --> 00:53:05,537 My energy, my mental clarity, my focus, my fatigue levels, 1125 00:53:05,537 --> 00:53:06,738 all those things got better. 1126 00:53:06,738 --> 00:53:08,939 I was like, wow, pretty interesting. 1127 00:53:08,939 --> 00:53:10,408 - How many of you guys have lost 10 pounds 1128 00:53:10,408 --> 00:53:11,743 or more pounds to low-carb or keto? 1129 00:53:11,743 --> 00:53:14,078 - And he's been a fantastic ambassador 1130 00:53:14,078 --> 00:53:16,615 for low-carb lifestyle because he's seen it personally 1131 00:53:16,615 --> 00:53:19,149 and now he's seen it with hundreds of his patients. 1132 00:53:19,149 --> 00:53:20,586 - Hey, how are doing? 1133 00:53:20,586 --> 00:53:21,419 - Fine. 1134 00:53:21,419 --> 00:53:22,720 - So good to see you. 1135 00:53:22,720 --> 00:53:23,555 - Thank you. 1136 00:53:23,555 --> 00:53:25,022 - How's things? 1137 00:53:25,022 --> 00:53:26,725 In all my years of practice, I never saw anyone cured 1138 00:53:26,725 --> 00:53:29,160 of diabetes by going on a low-fat diet, never, not one time. 1139 00:53:29,160 --> 00:53:30,696 No one came off insulin. 1140 00:53:30,696 --> 00:53:32,930 - [Dr. Mark] Since switching his practice to a low-carb, 1141 00:53:32,930 --> 00:53:34,899 ketogenic approach, nearly a dozen 1142 00:53:34,899 --> 00:53:38,236 of Brian's patients have reversed their type 2 diabetes 1143 00:53:38,236 --> 00:53:40,406 and come off insulin altogether. 1144 00:53:40,406 --> 00:53:41,973 - [Dr. Brian] I was just looking at your numbers 1145 00:53:41,973 --> 00:53:45,343 and I think of anyone I've seen, 1146 00:53:45,343 --> 00:53:47,678 you've come off insulin faster than anyone. 1147 00:53:47,678 --> 00:53:52,651 - I feel brand new, brand new. 1148 00:53:52,651 --> 00:53:55,120 So I'm sticking with the diet. 1149 00:53:55,120 --> 00:53:58,457 - At three months, I went from insulin five times a day 1150 00:53:58,457 --> 00:54:03,361 to no insulin and was able to maintain normal blood sugars. 1151 00:54:04,562 --> 00:54:06,698 - I don't remember if Doctor Lenzkes 1152 00:54:06,698 --> 00:54:11,502 suggested keto specifically for the weight loss 1153 00:54:11,502 --> 00:54:14,104 or if it wasn't for the other issues that I had. 1154 00:54:14,104 --> 00:54:18,243 I started it, and I do love butter, and I do love cream 1155 00:54:18,243 --> 00:54:19,877 and I do love bacon. 1156 00:54:19,877 --> 00:54:23,180 So it sounded really pretty good to me. 1157 00:54:23,180 --> 00:54:28,086 I ate less, and what I ate, I enjoyed more. 1158 00:54:28,086 --> 00:54:32,390 - Since last March, a year ago, 1159 00:54:33,691 --> 00:54:36,627 I've lost between 50 and 60 pounds, 1160 00:54:36,627 --> 00:54:38,162 but I've gained a lot of strength, 1161 00:54:38,162 --> 00:54:40,432 I've gained a lot of muscle as well. 1162 00:54:40,432 --> 00:54:42,468 - So, I've lost over 200 pounds. 1163 00:54:43,502 --> 00:54:44,970 - It's just mind boggling. 1164 00:54:44,970 --> 00:54:48,305 He hadn't taken any patients off insulin ever 1165 00:54:48,305 --> 00:54:51,276 in his entire career and in five months, 1166 00:54:51,276 --> 00:54:53,444 he got 11 patients off insulin completely. 1167 00:54:54,646 --> 00:54:57,082 How can you not acknowledge that? 1168 00:54:57,082 --> 00:54:59,316 - You've done incredible things, just two years ago you were 1169 00:54:59,316 --> 00:55:02,553 on insulin five times a day, huge doses and you asked me, 1170 00:55:02,553 --> 00:55:04,022 can I come off this insulin? 1171 00:55:04,022 --> 00:55:05,890 I'm gaining weight, I'm tired, I'm fatigued all the time, 1172 00:55:05,890 --> 00:55:07,892 and now seeing you, where you are at now, 1173 00:55:07,892 --> 00:55:10,461 it's pretty remarkable where you've accomplished just 1174 00:55:10,461 --> 00:55:12,397 by making some lifestyle changes. 1175 00:55:12,397 --> 00:55:14,865 They're empowered now to get themselves off insulin. 1176 00:55:14,865 --> 00:55:17,368 So now they're seeing it. 1177 00:55:17,368 --> 00:55:20,338 Now my patients are telling other patients and they're going 1178 00:55:20,338 --> 00:55:21,573 to them to say, hey, how come this person came off insulin? 1179 00:55:21,573 --> 00:55:23,107 I thought it couldn't happen. 1180 00:55:23,107 --> 00:55:26,912 It can happen, it does happen and we're excited about that. 1181 00:55:26,912 --> 00:55:28,914 I don't know anyone else who has lost as much weight 1182 00:55:28,914 --> 00:55:31,115 as you have, even with gastric bypass surgery, 1183 00:55:31,115 --> 00:55:32,417 I've never seen it. 1184 00:55:32,417 --> 00:55:33,984 The fact that you are coming down 1185 00:55:33,984 --> 00:55:36,754 off all your diabetes medications, you're off them now, 1186 00:55:36,754 --> 00:55:38,256 your blood pressure came down, 1187 00:55:38,256 --> 00:55:39,624 all these things are getting better 1188 00:55:39,624 --> 00:55:41,760 and we're slowly getting you off of medications. 1189 00:55:41,760 --> 00:55:44,396 You are making progress and you're a ton of progress, 1190 00:55:44,396 --> 00:55:46,731 more than anyone I've ever seen. 1191 00:55:46,731 --> 00:55:49,299 - That shift that he saw in his patients, 1192 00:55:49,299 --> 00:55:52,069 being able to actually remove medications 1193 00:55:52,069 --> 00:55:54,772 and make them healthier at the same time 1194 00:55:54,772 --> 00:55:56,841 was just tremendous and it all started 1195 00:55:56,841 --> 00:55:58,376 with his own personal journey. 1196 00:56:00,646 --> 00:56:04,915 - Maybe, eventually, the government will come around. 1197 00:56:04,915 --> 00:56:08,953 - Maybe possibly so, if not, it's your health. 1198 00:56:08,953 --> 00:56:10,988 We can do it as individuals and when people 1199 00:56:10,988 --> 00:56:12,256 are seeing people will have benefits, 1200 00:56:12,256 --> 00:56:13,924 they are gonna wanna go to that lifestyle, 1201 00:56:13,924 --> 00:56:18,196 and what we are seeing day after day is super exciting, 1202 00:56:18,196 --> 00:56:19,330 so thank you. 1203 00:56:19,330 --> 00:56:20,131 - Thank you so much. - Thank you 1204 00:56:20,131 --> 00:56:21,633 for encouraging me too. 1205 00:56:21,633 --> 00:56:24,602 - Oh no, you're wonderful, you are absolutely the best. 1206 00:56:24,602 --> 00:56:26,236 - You're awesome, thank you. 1207 00:56:26,236 --> 00:56:28,606 - So the three main macronutrients in food are carbohydrate, 1208 00:56:28,606 --> 00:56:31,709 protein and fat and here's an important point, 1209 00:56:31,709 --> 00:56:35,146 there are essential fats and essential proteins, 1210 00:56:35,146 --> 00:56:37,848 but there are no essential carbohydrates. 1211 00:56:39,017 --> 00:56:41,151 Essential means the nutrients are required 1212 00:56:41,151 --> 00:56:45,490 to sustain human life, we must eat these to survive. 1213 00:56:45,490 --> 00:56:49,127 But there is no physical or biological need for us 1214 00:56:49,127 --> 00:56:52,030 to consume any carbohydrates at all. 1215 00:57:00,171 --> 00:57:03,140 - [Doug Reynolds] I was an ultra distance runner, 1216 00:57:04,341 --> 00:57:07,377 not an elite athlete, but I was pretty good 1217 00:57:07,377 --> 00:57:09,680 and finished in the top 100 out of a field 1218 00:57:09,680 --> 00:57:11,549 of about 14, 15000. 1219 00:57:12,984 --> 00:57:15,720 - [Dr. Mark] By the time he was 30 years old, Doug Reynolds, 1220 00:57:15,720 --> 00:57:18,856 had run almost 100 marathons in ultra marathons. 1221 00:57:20,057 --> 00:57:21,859 He was in the best shape of his life, 1222 00:57:21,859 --> 00:57:24,028 but something wasn't right. 1223 00:57:24,028 --> 00:57:27,865 - And I would be incredibly fit, and yet on the day 1224 00:57:27,865 --> 00:57:30,901 of the race, I would be standing there thinking, 1225 00:57:30,901 --> 00:57:34,004 I've got to run up that mountain for 55 miles, 1226 00:57:34,004 --> 00:57:35,240 I can't even get to the corner. 1227 00:57:35,240 --> 00:57:37,274 I felt terrible. 1228 00:57:37,274 --> 00:57:39,410 I used to think it was just nerves. 1229 00:57:39,410 --> 00:57:40,611 - [Dr. Mark] Like many people, 1230 00:57:40,611 --> 00:57:42,379 Doug thought athletes couldn't function 1231 00:57:42,379 --> 00:57:45,149 without carbohydrates, he would binge on carbs 1232 00:57:45,149 --> 00:57:46,917 in the days leading up to the race. 1233 00:57:46,917 --> 00:57:48,153 - But it wasn't the nerves, 1234 00:57:48,153 --> 00:57:50,120 it was the fact that three days before, 1235 00:57:50,120 --> 00:57:55,126 I'd just gorge myself on all these pastas and potatoes 1236 00:57:56,426 --> 00:57:58,296 and all these carbohydrates and it was toxic. 1237 00:57:58,296 --> 00:58:00,798 - [Dr. Mark] It's a familiar story to doctor Tim Noakes, 1238 00:58:00,798 --> 00:58:03,635 the man who wrote the book on carb-loading. 1239 00:58:03,635 --> 00:58:05,537 - So the first four chapters are all 1240 00:58:05,537 --> 00:58:07,138 on high carbohydrate diets 1241 00:58:07,138 --> 00:58:09,841 and how the most important determinant of your success 1242 00:58:09,841 --> 00:58:13,443 in running is how much carbohydrates you're eating. 1243 00:58:13,443 --> 00:58:16,981 So I promoted this and all the time while I was writing 1244 00:58:16,981 --> 00:58:19,049 this I was getting fatter, less healthy 1245 00:58:19,049 --> 00:58:22,588 and my running was getting slower and slower and slower, 1246 00:58:22,588 --> 00:58:25,656 to the point where I was really hating running. 1247 00:58:25,656 --> 00:58:27,758 - [Dr. Mark] Even though they were exercising a lot more 1248 00:58:27,758 --> 00:58:31,328 than most people, both men suffered from their low-fat, 1249 00:58:31,328 --> 00:58:32,698 high-carb diets. 1250 00:58:32,698 --> 00:58:34,832 - I started to put on a little bit of weight 1251 00:58:34,832 --> 00:58:36,066 and I never used to weigh myself 1252 00:58:36,066 --> 00:58:38,303 because I was always a runner, I was fine. 1253 00:58:39,738 --> 00:58:42,006 And I got on the scale and I was like 35 pounds overweight. 1254 00:58:42,006 --> 00:58:43,841 I thought the scale was broken. 1255 00:58:43,841 --> 00:58:46,010 - And then, much more interestingly, 1256 00:58:46,010 --> 00:58:48,312 I discovered I had type 2 diabetes, 1257 00:58:48,312 --> 00:58:50,314 which was predictable 'cause my dad had died 1258 00:58:50,314 --> 00:58:53,283 from the disease and my dad took 10 years to die 1259 00:58:53,283 --> 00:58:56,220 and I figured, I've got ten years to sort this problem out. 1260 00:58:56,220 --> 00:58:58,189 - Both Tim and Doug decided to break 1261 00:58:58,189 --> 00:59:01,158 with convention and try a low-carb diet. 1262 00:59:01,158 --> 00:59:03,894 They cut carbs to less than 20 grams a day, 1263 00:59:03,894 --> 00:59:05,396 ate moderate amounts of protein 1264 00:59:05,396 --> 00:59:10,001 and began eating 70% to 80% of daily calories as fat. 1265 00:59:10,001 --> 00:59:12,671 Nutrition is actually pretty simple, 1266 00:59:12,671 --> 00:59:15,740 your body needs protein and protein comes first, 1267 00:59:15,740 --> 00:59:17,743 that's essential, but then you can choose 1268 00:59:17,743 --> 00:59:19,644 to run your body on carbohydrates, 1269 00:59:19,644 --> 00:59:23,814 including sugars and starches or fats and it's your choice. 1270 00:59:23,814 --> 00:59:26,417 If you quit eating carbs, sugars, and starches, 1271 00:59:26,417 --> 00:59:30,321 your body is forced to use an alternative fuel source, fat. 1272 00:59:30,321 --> 00:59:33,725 Burning fat produces substances called ketones 1273 00:59:33,725 --> 00:59:36,426 that provide all the energy you need to fuel your body 1274 00:59:36,426 --> 00:59:37,928 and your brain. 1275 00:59:37,928 --> 00:59:39,164 That's why the low-carb, 1276 00:59:39,164 --> 00:59:41,700 high-fat diet has been given the name keto. 1277 00:59:42,734 --> 00:59:44,202 For most of human history, 1278 00:59:44,202 --> 00:59:46,805 there has been very little sugar or starches in the diet. 1279 00:59:46,805 --> 00:59:49,807 In fact, if you put all of human history in one year, 1280 00:59:49,807 --> 00:59:51,242 it's only in the last day 1281 00:59:51,242 --> 00:59:53,144 that people started eating grains or bread 1282 00:59:53,144 --> 00:59:55,513 and it's only in the last hour 1283 00:59:55,513 --> 00:59:57,515 that people have been eating sugar. 1284 00:59:57,515 --> 01:00:01,019 - In fact we know that keeping people in ketosis, 1285 01:00:01,019 --> 01:00:05,490 keeping the carbs very low may actually be the preferred way 1286 01:00:05,490 --> 01:00:07,492 for people to be. 1287 01:00:07,492 --> 01:00:09,727 - Eventually, I dropped right down 44 pounds 1288 01:00:09,727 --> 01:00:12,030 and I went back to my weight that I had 1289 01:00:12,030 --> 01:00:15,600 when I was running in 1972. 1290 01:00:15,600 --> 01:00:17,435 And I'm glad to say, after seven years, 1291 01:00:17,435 --> 01:00:20,772 my blood glucose control is as good as it could be expected 1292 01:00:20,772 --> 01:00:23,841 for someone of my age of 69. 1293 01:00:23,841 --> 01:00:28,345 I'm not completely normal, but I'm 99% normal. 1294 01:00:28,345 --> 01:00:30,948 - [Dr. Mark] Tim famously tore out the pages on carb-loading 1295 01:00:30,948 --> 01:00:32,718 from his "Lore of Running" book 1296 01:00:32,718 --> 01:00:35,120 and promotes ketogenic diets for athletes. 1297 01:00:36,486 --> 01:00:38,022 - [Doug Reynolds] Two, three weeks after I started 1298 01:00:38,022 --> 01:00:39,857 on this keto diet, I was jumping out of bed 1299 01:00:39,857 --> 01:00:42,760 and going for a run in the morning and enjoying it. 1300 01:00:42,760 --> 01:00:46,430 It's just been the most amazing transformation in my life. 1301 01:00:47,832 --> 01:00:49,267 - [Dr. Mark] Doug started own company called, 1302 01:00:49,267 --> 01:00:53,571 LowCarbUSA, dedicated to education and nutrition support. 1303 01:00:53,571 --> 01:00:58,309 His logo, our nation's food pyramid turned upside down. 1304 01:00:58,309 --> 01:01:02,312 - Well, yeah, the whole idea was that the reason we're 1305 01:01:02,312 --> 01:01:06,283 in this terrible metabolic dilemma in this country 1306 01:01:06,283 --> 01:01:08,385 is because of the food pyramid. 1307 01:01:08,385 --> 01:01:12,490 What we are advocating is pretty much 180 degrees opposite 1308 01:01:12,490 --> 01:01:14,691 to what the food pyramid tries to teach. 1309 01:01:16,127 --> 01:01:18,830 - We now understand that our bodies, 1310 01:01:18,830 --> 01:01:20,832 even the bodies of elite athletes, 1311 01:01:20,832 --> 01:01:23,368 don't need carbohydrates to survive. 1312 01:01:23,368 --> 01:01:26,403 We can convert fat into ketones for fuel, 1313 01:01:26,403 --> 01:01:27,939 but early nutrition scientists 1314 01:01:27,939 --> 01:01:30,809 did not understand nutritional ketosis. 1315 01:01:30,809 --> 01:01:33,044 Scientists simply thought that since fat 1316 01:01:33,044 --> 01:01:35,113 has nine calories per gram, while protein 1317 01:01:35,113 --> 01:01:37,783 and carbs have only four calories per gram, 1318 01:01:37,783 --> 01:01:39,885 we should just cut back on fat 1319 01:01:39,885 --> 01:01:42,720 to lower our calorie consumption and lose weight. 1320 01:01:42,720 --> 01:01:46,825 - I met with people who helped with the initial guidelines 1321 01:01:46,825 --> 01:01:48,827 and they were well-intentioned, 1322 01:01:48,827 --> 01:01:53,798 they reasoned that because calories lead to obesity, 1323 01:01:55,299 --> 01:01:57,903 reduce the food that has the most calories which is fat. 1324 01:01:59,104 --> 01:02:01,106 - We've been counting calories ever since 1325 01:02:01,106 --> 01:02:05,243 in every way imaginable, on food labels, in menus, 1326 01:02:05,243 --> 01:02:09,848 online and in apps, and lately even on our bodies. 1327 01:02:09,848 --> 01:02:12,716 For years we've been told this is a simple equation. 1328 01:02:12,716 --> 01:02:15,821 If we can just balance the number of calories we consume 1329 01:02:15,821 --> 01:02:17,722 against the number of calories we burn, 1330 01:02:17,722 --> 01:02:19,924 the Calories In versus Calories Out, 1331 01:02:19,924 --> 01:02:21,993 our weight will stay in balance, 1332 01:02:21,993 --> 01:02:24,328 everything on the level, right? 1333 01:02:24,328 --> 01:02:25,997 Actually, not so right. 1334 01:02:27,064 --> 01:02:29,066 - The Calories In/Calories Out model 1335 01:02:29,066 --> 01:02:34,071 is fundamentally flawed, because the body doesn't account 1336 01:02:34,839 --> 01:02:37,742 for the fat that way. 1337 01:02:37,742 --> 01:02:39,977 That's not how we gain fat. 1338 01:02:39,977 --> 01:02:42,814 - It's not a physics problem, it's a biology problem, 1339 01:02:42,814 --> 01:02:44,950 it's a physiology problem. 1340 01:02:44,950 --> 01:02:46,917 - The alternative theory is called 1341 01:02:46,917 --> 01:02:50,521 the Carbohydrate-Insulin Hypothesis of weight gain. 1342 01:02:50,521 --> 01:02:52,589 Remember how carbohydrates raise blood sugar 1343 01:02:52,589 --> 01:02:54,024 but fat doesn't? 1344 01:02:54,024 --> 01:02:57,227 That's the key to the insulin-carbohydrate hypothesis. 1345 01:02:57,227 --> 01:02:58,495 - It's really not that hard to understand, 1346 01:02:58,495 --> 01:03:02,232 so if you take 100 calories of brownies 1347 01:03:02,232 --> 01:03:07,238 and 100 calories of salmon, and you eat the two, 1348 01:03:08,638 --> 01:03:12,510 all the insulin hypothesis says is that one food is going 1349 01:03:13,678 --> 01:03:15,546 to raise insulin a lot, the other food is not. 1350 01:03:15,546 --> 01:03:18,316 So we know that as soon as you put those foods 1351 01:03:18,316 --> 01:03:21,118 in your mouth, the hormonal effect 1352 01:03:21,118 --> 01:03:25,490 of those foods is completely and utterly different. 1353 01:03:25,490 --> 01:03:28,325 - So we really need to pay attention to hormones, 1354 01:03:28,325 --> 01:03:31,261 at least as much if not more, than calories. 1355 01:03:31,261 --> 01:03:33,298 So, what raises insulin? 1356 01:03:33,298 --> 01:03:36,001 Well, carbohydrates number one with a bullet. 1357 01:03:36,001 --> 01:03:39,104 It's like in real estate, location, location, location. 1358 01:03:39,104 --> 01:03:41,839 With insulin, it's carbohydrate, carbohydrate, carbohydrate. 1359 01:03:41,839 --> 01:03:44,075 Protein is a distant second, 1360 01:03:44,075 --> 01:03:45,642 so protein can raise insulin as well. 1361 01:03:45,642 --> 01:03:47,979 You know what doesn't raise it at all? 1362 01:03:47,979 --> 01:03:48,812 Fat. 1363 01:03:48,812 --> 01:03:50,080 Zero, not a drop. 1364 01:03:50,080 --> 01:03:51,582 Doesn't move the needle. 1365 01:03:51,582 --> 01:03:55,352 So what is the irony of us telling people to eat a diet 1366 01:03:55,352 --> 01:03:57,622 that is absent of the one macronutrient 1367 01:03:57,622 --> 01:04:00,992 that has no effect on the fat storage hormone? 1368 01:04:00,992 --> 01:04:03,995 It's total sheer madness. 1369 01:04:03,995 --> 01:04:07,531 - Insulin essentially acts as a lock 1370 01:04:07,531 --> 01:04:11,102 that gets clamped down on all of our fat stores 1371 01:04:11,102 --> 01:04:16,106 and prevents us from using our stored fat as energy. 1372 01:04:17,408 --> 01:04:19,609 But, when we restrict carbohydrates 1373 01:04:19,609 --> 01:04:22,513 and we can therefore bring the insulin levels down, 1374 01:04:22,513 --> 01:04:26,684 the locks come off, and all of sudden we have access 1375 01:04:26,684 --> 01:04:30,854 to all of our fat stores for energy. 1376 01:04:30,854 --> 01:04:34,658 - [Dr. Mark] That's right, insulin is a fat storage hormone. 1377 01:04:34,658 --> 01:04:37,062 Lower insulin by cutting out sugar and carbs 1378 01:04:37,062 --> 01:04:39,930 and the weight comes off or never comes on 1379 01:04:39,930 --> 01:04:41,198 in the first place. 1380 01:04:41,198 --> 01:04:42,968 - We tell patients to think of their body 1381 01:04:42,968 --> 01:04:47,472 as a bowl of sugar, so over time, that bowl fills up. 1382 01:04:47,472 --> 01:04:50,908 If you're eating a lot of processed foods and sugar 1383 01:04:50,908 --> 01:04:54,778 and so on, that bowl fills up, and eventually that sugar, 1384 01:04:54,778 --> 01:04:56,680 as you add more sugar in, spills out, 1385 01:04:56,680 --> 01:04:58,783 and that's what Type 2 Diabetes is. 1386 01:04:58,783 --> 01:05:00,385 Your cells can't hold anymore sugar, 1387 01:05:00,385 --> 01:05:02,787 it simply spills out into the blood. 1388 01:05:02,787 --> 01:05:05,323 The wrong thing to do is to take the insulin 1389 01:05:05,323 --> 01:05:08,493 and keep cramming that sugar back into the body, 1390 01:05:08,493 --> 01:05:12,062 the body takes it, takes it, takes it until it rots. 1391 01:05:13,363 --> 01:05:16,033 It would be much smarter to simply say, 1392 01:05:16,033 --> 01:05:20,037 hey, I have too much sugar, let me just burn it all off 1393 01:05:20,037 --> 01:05:23,173 by intermittent fasting, or not putting anymore sugar in. 1394 01:05:23,173 --> 01:05:25,575 A low-carbohydrate diet, and guess what? 1395 01:05:25,575 --> 01:05:29,747 It works exactly as you would expect it to work. 1396 01:05:29,747 --> 01:05:33,318 - I've been using the keto diet for about 13 years 1397 01:05:33,318 --> 01:05:35,952 in a university clinical practice 1398 01:05:35,952 --> 01:05:40,890 and the results in treating diabetes are quite remarkable. 1399 01:05:40,890 --> 01:05:45,896 I've had some people get off insulin within just a few days 1400 01:05:47,031 --> 01:05:48,399 of changing from eating carbohydrates 1401 01:05:48,399 --> 01:05:50,535 to not eating carbohydrates. 1402 01:05:50,535 --> 01:05:53,671 I think my record that I can recall is I took someone 1403 01:05:53,671 --> 01:05:58,309 off 180 units of insulin a day in just two days. 1404 01:06:01,211 --> 01:06:02,912 - Well, come on in and take a seat. 1405 01:06:02,912 --> 01:06:04,414 - Sure. 1406 01:06:04,414 --> 01:06:07,352 - If Judi were to have walked into my office ten years ago 1407 01:06:07,352 --> 01:06:10,388 when I started, I would have thought, I can help you. 1408 01:06:10,388 --> 01:06:14,091 You just need to eat less, you need to exercise more, 1409 01:06:14,091 --> 01:06:16,526 we need to start measuring your food, you can do this, 1410 01:06:16,526 --> 01:06:18,028 I believe in you. 1411 01:06:18,028 --> 01:06:19,497 And I thought that to be true. 1412 01:06:19,497 --> 01:06:21,098 Why don't you go ahead and get your blood sugar meter out 1413 01:06:21,098 --> 01:06:22,332 for me too. 1414 01:06:22,332 --> 01:06:23,301 - Okay. 1415 01:06:23,301 --> 01:06:24,834 - Take a look at that. 1416 01:06:24,834 --> 01:06:28,205 - Over the course of the following five years, 1417 01:06:28,205 --> 01:06:30,140 I realized it wasn't working, 1418 01:06:30,140 --> 01:06:35,146 and either no one was following my advice 1419 01:06:36,013 --> 01:06:37,182 or I was giving terrible advice. 1420 01:06:37,182 --> 01:06:38,848 - I've been writing down each day. 1421 01:06:38,848 --> 01:06:41,118 - Thankfully Judi didn't come into my office 10 years ago, 1422 01:06:41,118 --> 01:06:42,819 she came into my office this year. 1423 01:06:43,687 --> 01:06:46,256 And I was able to offer hope, 1424 01:06:46,256 --> 01:06:48,725 I was able to offer an opportunity. 1425 01:06:48,725 --> 01:06:51,062 I knew that she could be successful 1426 01:06:51,062 --> 01:06:53,064 and success wasn't just measured on a scale, 1427 01:06:53,064 --> 01:06:56,767 it was measured with blood sugar reduction, 1428 01:06:56,767 --> 01:06:59,336 insulin reduction, anti-inflammatory markers, 1429 01:06:59,336 --> 01:07:02,906 blood pressure as well as insulin. 1430 01:07:02,906 --> 01:07:04,075 Looks like you did an awesome job. 1431 01:07:04,075 --> 01:07:05,609 - Yeah. 1432 01:07:05,609 --> 01:07:09,280 - And you are down 12 pounds since our last visit, yeah. 1433 01:07:09,280 --> 01:07:11,682 - I can report that this is the second week 1434 01:07:11,682 --> 01:07:16,187 and I have normal blood sugars now in the morning. 1435 01:07:16,187 --> 01:07:21,191 I'm still doing my injectables, but it's gotten leveled. 1436 01:07:22,327 --> 01:07:24,729 It's leveled and I know that I'm in ketosis 1437 01:07:24,729 --> 01:07:27,164 and the weight is starting to drop off. 1438 01:07:27,164 --> 01:07:28,732 - What was the dose you were taking 1439 01:07:28,732 --> 01:07:29,999 when you walked out of the door? 1440 01:07:29,999 --> 01:07:30,968 - It was 120 units. 1441 01:07:30,968 --> 01:07:31,801 - Okay. 1442 01:07:31,801 --> 01:07:34,071 - And now I'm doing 100. 1443 01:07:34,071 --> 01:07:36,740 - [Dr. Mark] In just two weeks on a ketogenic diet, 1444 01:07:36,740 --> 01:07:41,745 Judi has cut her blood sugar in half and lost 12 pounds. 1445 01:07:43,113 --> 01:07:44,814 Changing her nutrition has done more to improve her health 1446 01:07:44,814 --> 01:07:47,218 than any medication ever did. 1447 01:07:47,218 --> 01:07:48,818 - The difference is more fat 1448 01:07:48,818 --> 01:07:51,421 and that gives a lot more energy. 1449 01:07:51,421 --> 01:07:53,957 - It's amazing, I'm happy I come to work again 1450 01:07:53,957 --> 01:07:56,526 and there was really a time when I thought, I have to quit. 1451 01:07:56,526 --> 01:07:58,463 I can't do this, this is miserable. 1452 01:07:58,463 --> 01:08:01,566 It's hopeless, diabetes is a hopeless disease. 1453 01:08:01,566 --> 01:08:04,269 And I felt that way, I really truly felt that way 1454 01:08:04,269 --> 01:08:06,271 and I knew that there had to be another answer, 1455 01:08:06,271 --> 01:08:08,205 and I don't feel that way anymore. 1456 01:08:08,205 --> 01:08:10,908 - In results from more than 50 controlled clinical trials 1457 01:08:10,908 --> 01:08:13,877 comparing high-fat and low-fat diets for weight loss, 1458 01:08:13,877 --> 01:08:16,613 the high-fat diets won every time. 1459 01:08:16,613 --> 01:08:19,550 The higher the fat, the higher the weight loss. 1460 01:08:19,550 --> 01:08:22,353 That's because eating fat speeds up your metabolism 1461 01:08:22,353 --> 01:08:24,389 and helps you burn body fat. 1462 01:08:24,389 --> 01:08:27,524 Carbs slow down your metabolism and cause weight gain. 1463 01:08:30,795 --> 01:08:34,764 It's week two of our nutrition experiment, this time, 1464 01:08:34,764 --> 01:08:36,800 it's the low-fat diet. 1465 01:08:36,800 --> 01:08:41,805 - So today's breakfast was oatmeal with raisins 1466 01:08:42,706 --> 01:08:44,875 and brown sugar. 1467 01:08:44,875 --> 01:08:45,809 (computer typing) 1468 01:08:45,809 --> 01:08:47,312 - [Dr. Mark] We're following 1469 01:08:47,312 --> 01:08:50,715 a USDA MyPlate 2000 calorie a day meal plan downloaded 1470 01:08:50,715 --> 01:08:52,849 from a the USDA website. 1471 01:08:52,849 --> 01:08:54,551 - Do you have a leaner ham? 1472 01:08:54,551 --> 01:08:58,022 - [Dr. Mark] It calls for low-fat meats, non-fat dairy, 1473 01:08:58,022 --> 01:09:00,957 including non-fat sugar-sweetened chocolate milk 1474 01:09:00,957 --> 01:09:04,060 and plenty of carbohydrates, things like lasagna, 1475 01:09:04,060 --> 01:09:06,531 bread and even pizza. 1476 01:09:06,531 --> 01:09:07,497 - This looks like stuff you would take 1477 01:09:07,497 --> 01:09:10,367 to a college dorm, right? 1478 01:09:12,536 --> 01:09:15,973 - [Dr. Mark] This is what our government says we should eat. 1479 01:09:15,973 --> 01:09:17,707 - We have some shredded wheat here, 1480 01:09:19,309 --> 01:09:22,347 and then half cup of sliced banana, 1481 01:09:23,680 --> 01:09:28,685 and half a cup of fat free milk, then toast 1482 01:09:30,588 --> 01:09:34,224 and one cup of chocolate milk, fat free. 1483 01:09:34,224 --> 01:09:37,495 - [Dr. Mark] This breakfast alone contains 150 grams 1484 01:09:37,495 --> 01:09:40,831 of carbohydrates and 50 grams of sugar. 1485 01:09:40,831 --> 01:09:44,701 - [Cynthia] Two teaspoons of jelly. 1486 01:09:44,701 --> 01:09:47,136 - Instead of eating bacon and eggs in the morning, 1487 01:09:47,136 --> 01:09:50,840 which keeps you full until well past lunch for example, 1488 01:09:50,840 --> 01:09:54,444 now you're eating a couple of slices of bread and jam, 1489 01:09:54,444 --> 01:09:57,447 and of course, by the time you metabolize it, 1490 01:09:57,447 --> 01:10:00,149 the sugar goes way up, and then it goes way down. 1491 01:10:00,149 --> 01:10:02,819 At 10:30, you're looking for a low-fat muffin. 1492 01:10:02,819 --> 01:10:07,825 - Day one of the new diet has begun and I have to admit, 1493 01:10:07,825 --> 01:10:12,196 I'm not liking it hungry all day. 1494 01:10:12,196 --> 01:10:14,532 - Instead of eating three meals a day, 1495 01:10:14,532 --> 01:10:19,169 which is a standard since in the '60s, '50s, '60s, '70s, 1496 01:10:19,169 --> 01:10:21,205 now all of a sudden, people are getting hungry, 1497 01:10:21,205 --> 01:10:24,741 like ravenous at 10:30, and they're saying, 1498 01:10:24,741 --> 01:10:26,576 oh, yeah, I need to eat six times a day. 1499 01:10:26,576 --> 01:10:29,313 - Today I was hungry again so I needed the snack, 1500 01:10:29,313 --> 01:10:32,049 and I also got really tired after the meal. 1501 01:10:32,049 --> 01:10:35,152 - So not only are you eating foods that stimulate a lot 1502 01:10:35,152 --> 01:10:37,287 of insulin, you're doing it constantly, 1503 01:10:37,287 --> 01:10:40,558 six times a day versus three times a day, and it's like, 1504 01:10:40,558 --> 01:10:42,192 well, what's gonna happen? 1505 01:10:42,192 --> 01:10:45,396 - Lunch was a ham sandwich with some mayo, 1506 01:10:45,396 --> 01:10:50,367 some grapes, the milk and I went off the chart, 1507 01:10:51,868 --> 01:10:54,905 I went over 200 and it just kept going up and up and up 1508 01:10:54,905 --> 01:10:58,908 and up and up and up and up and then it hit over 200, 206, 1509 01:10:58,908 --> 01:11:00,377 I think was it. 1510 01:11:00,377 --> 01:11:02,479 Then it started coming down, that was crazy to me. 1511 01:11:02,479 --> 01:11:04,081 And it was almost a little scary. 1512 01:11:04,081 --> 01:11:05,683 - It's a recipe for diabetes, 1513 01:11:05,683 --> 01:11:09,620 how long is it gonna be before everybody becomes diabetic? 1514 01:11:09,620 --> 01:11:12,423 Because that's the outcome of that advice. 1515 01:11:12,423 --> 01:11:16,326 - I never got even close to that last week, not even close. 1516 01:11:16,326 --> 01:11:19,597 So it's gonna be an interesting week and, gosh, 1517 01:11:21,532 --> 01:11:24,335 I hope I last all week, I'm not kidding. 1518 01:11:25,769 --> 01:11:29,773 - Hi, this is Cynthia, fifth day on the low-fat diet. 1519 01:11:30,974 --> 01:11:33,478 It is barely 12:00 but I'm hungry 1520 01:11:33,478 --> 01:11:35,144 so I'm digging into my lunch. 1521 01:11:35,144 --> 01:11:40,149 I'm hungry again, so I will dig into my daily snack. 1522 01:11:40,149 --> 01:11:42,286 Last week I was barely hungry at 2:00 1523 01:11:42,286 --> 01:11:46,523 and now I am very hungry so I will eat. 1524 01:11:46,523 --> 01:11:47,758 - I was hungry the entire time. 1525 01:11:47,758 --> 01:11:51,260 I would eat, I would feel good for about 30, 1526 01:11:51,260 --> 01:11:56,133 40 minutes and then I would start just feeling hungry. 1527 01:11:56,133 --> 01:11:57,734 - [Cynthia] I definitely liked last week. 1528 01:11:57,734 --> 01:11:59,002 - [Dr. Mark] When you compare the flat 1529 01:11:59,002 --> 01:12:01,271 and steady blood sugars from the high-fat week 1530 01:12:01,271 --> 01:12:04,041 to the rollercoaster readings from this low-fat week, 1531 01:12:04,041 --> 01:12:06,143 it's hard to believe that our government thinks 1532 01:12:06,143 --> 01:12:07,745 this is good for us. 1533 01:12:07,745 --> 01:12:12,416 - USDA put together a guideline that seems to me was really 1534 01:12:12,416 --> 01:12:15,152 to market the food that America makes. 1535 01:12:15,152 --> 01:12:16,621 It wasn't based on health. 1536 01:12:16,621 --> 01:12:19,356 - The dietary guidelines are not guidelines, 1537 01:12:19,356 --> 01:12:21,991 the dietary guidelines are guidance. 1538 01:12:23,192 --> 01:12:25,028 They're guidance for the food industry to be able 1539 01:12:25,028 --> 01:12:25,996 to sell food. 1540 01:12:27,197 --> 01:12:28,733 They have nothing to do with health. 1541 01:12:30,200 --> 01:12:32,536 And the fact that the USDA is in charge of our health 1542 01:12:32,536 --> 01:12:33,838 is already a problem. 1543 01:12:35,238 --> 01:12:36,840 - The USDA when it was founded had two mandates, 1544 01:12:36,840 --> 01:12:37,675 not one, two. 1545 01:12:38,843 --> 01:12:42,045 Mandate number one, was to provide information 1546 01:12:42,045 --> 01:12:44,313 to the American public about healthy eating. 1547 01:12:45,483 --> 01:12:48,518 Mandate number two, was to support, encourage 1548 01:12:48,518 --> 01:12:52,188 and grow the American agricultural industry. 1549 01:12:52,188 --> 01:12:57,161 Those two mandates are not always congruent with one another 1550 01:12:58,394 --> 01:12:59,929 because if you were really being honest 1551 01:12:59,929 --> 01:13:02,966 with the American people you would say, wheat, corn, sugar 1552 01:13:02,966 --> 01:13:05,635 and soy are not health foods. 1553 01:13:05,635 --> 01:13:08,673 And if you're congruent with the other mandate 1554 01:13:08,673 --> 01:13:11,274 of the USDA which is to support and encourage 1555 01:13:11,274 --> 01:13:14,210 and grow American agriculture, you ain't telling people 1556 01:13:14,210 --> 01:13:16,412 to not eat four of the five biggest crops 1557 01:13:16,412 --> 01:13:17,747 that are made in America. 1558 01:13:17,747 --> 01:13:20,216 So that's the contradiction 1559 01:13:20,216 --> 01:13:23,853 and that's why I don't think you're gonna see much change 1560 01:13:23,853 --> 01:13:25,856 in dietary recommendations. 1561 01:13:26,991 --> 01:13:28,593 - So Nick, tell me about your experiences 1562 01:13:28,593 --> 01:13:29,926 these past two weeks. 1563 01:13:29,926 --> 01:13:31,595 - So it's been really, really interesting. 1564 01:13:31,595 --> 01:13:32,796 - Yeah, so it was interesting. 1565 01:13:32,796 --> 01:13:34,631 - Well, it was really interesting. 1566 01:13:34,631 --> 01:13:38,835 - The low-carb, high-fat, 1567 01:13:38,835 --> 01:13:41,037 I had a really good experience with. 1568 01:13:41,037 --> 01:13:45,142 - I loved all the food, and I found it very easy. 1569 01:13:45,142 --> 01:13:47,612 - I like the high-fat a little better 1570 01:13:47,612 --> 01:13:49,179 because I felt more energetic. 1571 01:13:49,179 --> 01:13:54,117 - The following week on the low-fat, high-carb, 1572 01:13:54,117 --> 01:13:55,352 I was bonking. 1573 01:13:55,352 --> 01:13:57,921 I'd just be tired, maybe hungry is probably 1574 01:13:57,921 --> 01:13:59,456 the best word. 1575 01:13:59,456 --> 01:14:02,492 - Insulin is a big driver of carbohydrate craving 1576 01:14:02,492 --> 01:14:03,728 and hunger. 1577 01:14:03,728 --> 01:14:06,630 That hungry feeling that you mentioned is often 1578 01:14:06,630 --> 01:14:08,733 when someone's insulin levels are high 1579 01:14:08,733 --> 01:14:10,500 but their blood sugar is low. 1580 01:14:10,500 --> 01:14:13,002 It's that insulin rollercoaster we talked about 1581 01:14:13,002 --> 01:14:15,371 that you eat carbs, your insulin levels go up. 1582 01:14:15,371 --> 01:14:19,308 - And I got foggy during the high-carb week. 1583 01:14:19,308 --> 01:14:20,810 - A little groggy. 1584 01:14:20,810 --> 01:14:24,348 - I was even just saying things backwards and I noticed 1585 01:14:24,348 --> 01:14:28,986 that I wasn't clicking like I normally do. 1586 01:14:28,986 --> 01:14:30,487 - I'd love to see your graphs at some time, 1587 01:14:30,487 --> 01:14:31,688 kind of see the whole progression of them. 1588 01:14:31,688 --> 01:14:33,357 Do you have them with you? 1589 01:14:33,357 --> 01:14:34,991 - Yeah, sure. 1590 01:14:34,991 --> 01:14:36,292 Let me see here. 1591 01:14:36,292 --> 01:14:37,126 - [Dr. Mark] Just look at the difference 1592 01:14:37,126 --> 01:14:38,828 between the two diets. 1593 01:14:38,828 --> 01:14:41,732 Every one of our participants experiences similar reactions 1594 01:14:41,732 --> 01:14:44,433 to the low-carb versus low-fat diets. 1595 01:14:44,433 --> 01:14:45,335 - Wow, what a difference between the two weeks. 1596 01:14:45,335 --> 01:14:46,335 - Yeah, it's huge. 1597 01:14:46,335 --> 01:14:47,604 - Yeah. 1598 01:14:47,604 --> 01:14:49,939 - From the first week I was almost a flat line. 1599 01:14:49,939 --> 01:14:51,340 I was averaging 84. 1600 01:14:51,340 --> 01:14:52,576 - [Dr. Michelle] Much more stable. 1601 01:14:52,576 --> 01:14:54,978 - It was fascinating, it was really interesting 1602 01:14:54,978 --> 01:14:56,446 being a part of this. 1603 01:14:56,446 --> 01:14:59,316 - I'm really excited about this changing my life. 1604 01:14:59,316 --> 01:15:00,250 - It's cool to see. 1605 01:15:01,417 --> 01:15:04,822 - For many people, fat is a superfood. 1606 01:15:04,822 --> 01:15:07,558 Not only does it help you feel full and lose weight, 1607 01:15:07,558 --> 01:15:09,794 your body uses it as the building blocks 1608 01:15:09,794 --> 01:15:13,130 for cellular membranes and fat makes up the myelin sheath 1609 01:15:13,130 --> 01:15:16,300 that forms around our nerves and allows electrical impulses 1610 01:15:16,300 --> 01:15:18,868 to transmit quickly and efficiently. 1611 01:15:18,868 --> 01:15:21,537 Fat makes up more than half of our brain tissue. 1612 01:15:21,537 --> 01:15:23,941 Human breast milk is more than half fat, 1613 01:15:23,941 --> 01:15:26,710 much of which is saturated fat. 1614 01:15:26,710 --> 01:15:30,147 We need healthy fats to be healthy humans. 1615 01:15:30,147 --> 01:15:32,549 Unfortunately, what we've been told about 1616 01:15:32,549 --> 01:15:35,620 which fats are good for us and which fats are bad 1617 01:15:35,620 --> 01:15:37,588 is dead wrong. 1618 01:15:37,588 --> 01:15:41,090 - Everybody just thinks, oh, don't eat fat, don't eat fat, 1619 01:15:41,090 --> 01:15:42,859 and it's actually more tragic than that, 1620 01:15:42,859 --> 01:15:44,929 the story is actually much worse. 1621 01:15:44,929 --> 01:15:48,032 As people turned away from saturated fats, 1622 01:15:48,032 --> 01:15:51,635 like butter and animal fats, we were told to eat margarine. 1623 01:15:51,635 --> 01:15:56,640 * Yes I am the muffin man, now I am the butter man * 1624 01:15:58,442 --> 01:16:01,444 - [Narrator] Imperial, only our taste deserves the crown. 1625 01:16:01,444 --> 01:16:04,548 - It turns out, and this is what's so tragic about it, 1626 01:16:04,548 --> 01:16:06,951 it was deadly advice. 1627 01:16:06,951 --> 01:16:09,687 - Many doctors have recommended corn oil margarines 1628 01:16:09,687 --> 01:16:13,322 to help lower the saturated fat in a reduced fat diet. 1629 01:16:13,322 --> 01:16:17,361 - So if you remember margarine is vegetable oils, 1630 01:16:17,361 --> 01:16:21,231 and then they partially hydrogenate them to make them solid, 1631 01:16:21,231 --> 01:16:22,899 so they look like butter. 1632 01:16:22,899 --> 01:16:27,136 Partially hydrogenated fats are actually trans-fats. 1633 01:16:27,136 --> 01:16:30,273 - It's best to replace spreads high in saturated fats. 1634 01:16:30,273 --> 01:16:34,210 - So we went from eating natural foods and butter 1635 01:16:34,210 --> 01:16:39,215 to trans-fats, which we now know was super, super, 1636 01:16:40,084 --> 01:16:42,219 super deadly for heart attacks. 1637 01:16:42,219 --> 01:16:44,822 - For the family you love, serve delicious, 1638 01:16:44,822 --> 01:16:46,622 new Mazola margarine 1639 01:16:46,622 --> 01:16:49,593 and love it's light delicate flavor everyday. 1640 01:16:49,593 --> 01:16:53,563 - That is mind-blowing that we told people 1641 01:16:53,563 --> 01:16:57,634 to stop eating butter, and eat this poison instead, 1642 01:16:57,634 --> 01:17:00,838 and it would be good for you, and we all did it. 1643 01:17:00,838 --> 01:17:04,008 - This is Mazola, 100% corn oil margarine made 1644 01:17:04,008 --> 01:17:06,242 from 100% corn oil goodness. 1645 01:17:06,242 --> 01:17:07,510 - Well, there's really no doubt 1646 01:17:07,510 --> 01:17:09,213 that the American Heart Association endorsement 1647 01:17:09,213 --> 01:17:12,482 of vegetable oils was a great thing for that industry. 1648 01:17:13,884 --> 01:17:14,818 - [Narrator] This is Ralph Edwards 1649 01:17:14,818 --> 01:17:16,019 with "Truth or Consequences." 1650 01:17:16,019 --> 01:17:16,953 Congratulations on your fine entry statement 1651 01:17:16,953 --> 01:17:17,888 of why we should all support 1652 01:17:17,888 --> 01:17:19,423 the American Heart Association. 1653 01:17:19,423 --> 01:17:21,191 - [Dr. Mark] The American Heart Association started 1654 01:17:21,191 --> 01:17:23,861 in the 1920s as a sleepy little organization 1655 01:17:23,861 --> 01:17:26,130 that could barely keep its doors open. 1656 01:17:26,130 --> 01:17:28,365 But in 1948, Procter and Gamble, 1657 01:17:28,365 --> 01:17:30,599 the maker of Crisco was shortening, 1658 01:17:30,599 --> 01:17:35,472 staged a nation-wide fundraiser and the AHA hit the jackpot. 1659 01:17:35,472 --> 01:17:36,874 - [Narrator] To thank Jack Benny, 1660 01:17:36,874 --> 01:17:38,075 the American Heart Association has a million 1661 01:17:38,075 --> 01:17:39,509 and a half dollars there. 1662 01:17:39,509 --> 01:17:41,711 All right, Ralph Edwards saying, goodnight, everybody. 1663 01:17:41,711 --> 01:17:46,716 - Overnight, millions of dollars flowed into their coffers. 1664 01:17:47,917 --> 01:17:49,353 I mean, literally from one week to the next, 1665 01:17:49,353 --> 01:17:51,155 they started opening up chapters all over the country, 1666 01:17:51,155 --> 01:17:53,290 all thanks to Procter and Gamble. 1667 01:17:53,290 --> 01:17:55,392 - [Narrator] New Crisco oil stays blended longer, 1668 01:17:55,392 --> 01:17:56,993 makes salads taste great. 1669 01:17:56,993 --> 01:17:59,362 New Crisco oil blends better than other oils. 1670 01:17:59,362 --> 01:18:00,930 - [Dr. Mark] The American Heart Association 1671 01:18:00,930 --> 01:18:03,267 has endorsed vegetable oils ever since. 1672 01:18:03,267 --> 01:18:06,303 - It's not nice to fool mother nature. 1673 01:18:08,371 --> 01:18:12,076 - They then were able to publish advertisements saying, 1674 01:18:12,076 --> 01:18:14,577 lowers cholesterol, take this ad to your doctor 1675 01:18:14,577 --> 01:18:17,848 and get them to prescribe to you vegetable oils 1676 01:18:17,848 --> 01:18:19,116 for your health. 1677 01:18:19,116 --> 01:18:20,884 - Vegetable oils are a fascinating topic 1678 01:18:20,884 --> 01:18:24,653 because they've become labeled as heart-healthy 1679 01:18:24,653 --> 01:18:29,593 which drives me a little crazy because the label was granted 1680 01:18:29,593 --> 01:18:32,595 to them simply by lowering LDL cholesterol. 1681 01:18:32,595 --> 01:18:35,933 But, the broader question is, what else are they doing? 1682 01:18:35,933 --> 01:18:38,335 These are not real food products, 1683 01:18:38,335 --> 01:18:40,437 these are products made in factories. 1684 01:18:40,437 --> 01:18:43,273 These are products that require heat and chemicals 1685 01:18:43,273 --> 01:18:46,911 and high pressure to extract what little oil there is. 1686 01:18:46,911 --> 01:18:48,478 - [Dr. Mark] The heat and chemicals used 1687 01:18:48,478 --> 01:18:50,781 in the manufacturing process oxidizes 1688 01:18:50,781 --> 01:18:52,616 these delicate seed oils. 1689 01:18:52,616 --> 01:18:55,819 When you eat oxidized vegetable oils like soy, canola, 1690 01:18:55,819 --> 01:18:59,555 corn, safflower or sunflower, they create free radicals 1691 01:18:59,555 --> 01:19:01,991 throughout your body that are highly inflammatory 1692 01:19:01,991 --> 01:19:04,862 and known to cause heart disease and cancer. 1693 01:19:04,862 --> 01:19:07,197 - Why are we always trying to eat more antioxidants? 1694 01:19:07,197 --> 01:19:09,899 To combat free radicals like the ones found 1695 01:19:09,899 --> 01:19:11,835 in refined vegetable oils. 1696 01:19:11,835 --> 01:19:13,336 - And then they're used by restaurants 1697 01:19:13,336 --> 01:19:16,505 in the most carcinogenic way possible. 1698 01:19:16,505 --> 01:19:19,675 They heat them, reheat them, cool them off, heat them again 1699 01:19:19,675 --> 01:19:21,144 and use them for a week. 1700 01:19:21,144 --> 01:19:24,680 So switching to "vegetable oils," the seed oils, 1701 01:19:24,680 --> 01:19:27,951 was probably a terrible idea in the first place. 1702 01:19:27,951 --> 01:19:30,386 - [Dr. Mark] One researcher from the University of Minnesota 1703 01:19:30,386 --> 01:19:32,456 went to a variety of fast food restaurants 1704 01:19:32,456 --> 01:19:34,825 in her neighborhood and purchased french fries, 1705 01:19:34,825 --> 01:19:37,862 and then took them back to her lab for testing. 1706 01:19:37,862 --> 01:19:40,729 She found numerous compounds of toxic aldehydes 1707 01:19:40,729 --> 01:19:41,965 in the fries. 1708 01:19:41,965 --> 01:19:44,701 Aldehydes are known to cause gene mutation, 1709 01:19:44,701 --> 01:19:48,472 alter RNA and DNA, and trigger massive inflammation 1710 01:19:48,472 --> 01:19:49,639 in the body. 1711 01:19:49,639 --> 01:19:51,774 - Vegetable oil is highly toxic and anyone 1712 01:19:51,774 --> 01:19:54,678 who advises people to eat vegetable oils 1713 01:19:54,678 --> 01:19:57,014 is also giving misinformation. 1714 01:19:57,014 --> 01:20:00,116 - I tell my clients to avoid the industrial seed oils 1715 01:20:00,116 --> 01:20:01,384 as much as possible. 1716 01:20:02,818 --> 01:20:05,354 - [Dr. Mark] Vegetable oils belong in the engines of cars, 1717 01:20:05,354 --> 01:20:06,656 not in your food. 1718 01:20:08,959 --> 01:20:11,527 Refined vegetable oils are one more reason 1719 01:20:11,527 --> 01:20:14,164 you should avoid fast food and processed foods. 1720 01:20:14,164 --> 01:20:16,032 If it comes in a bottle or a box, 1721 01:20:16,032 --> 01:20:18,734 it probably contains vegetable oils, 1722 01:20:18,734 --> 01:20:22,272 from crackers to cookies, mayonnaise to salad dressings, 1723 01:20:22,272 --> 01:20:24,942 baby food and even baby formula. 1724 01:20:24,942 --> 01:20:27,176 - They're not natural, they've been shown 1725 01:20:27,176 --> 01:20:30,113 to be pro-inflammatory and, in some studies like 1726 01:20:30,113 --> 01:20:31,781 the Minnesota Coronary Experiment, 1727 01:20:31,781 --> 01:20:34,984 the Sydney Diet Heart Study, they've shown that, yes, 1728 01:20:34,984 --> 01:20:37,453 they lower LDL but they actually do nothing 1729 01:20:37,453 --> 01:20:40,057 or they worsen all-cause mortality. 1730 01:20:44,060 --> 01:20:46,930 (historical music) 1731 01:20:51,434 --> 01:20:54,103 - The Minnesota Coronary Survey which took place 1732 01:20:54,103 --> 01:20:57,640 in the 1960s was the biggest ever test 1733 01:20:57,640 --> 01:20:59,776 of Ancel Keys' hypothesis. 1734 01:20:59,776 --> 01:21:03,447 - The Minnesota Coronary Experiment is a fascinating study 1735 01:21:03,447 --> 01:21:04,848 both from a science standpoint 1736 01:21:04,848 --> 01:21:07,283 and sort of a detective standpoint. 1737 01:21:07,283 --> 01:21:11,054 - So it took place in five Minnesota mental hospitals 1738 01:21:11,054 --> 01:21:13,057 which is a kind of experiment you can't do anymore 1739 01:21:13,057 --> 01:21:14,424 because it's considered unethical. 1740 01:21:14,424 --> 01:21:17,426 But, back then it has the benefit 1741 01:21:17,426 --> 01:21:19,429 of being highly controlled, which means 1742 01:21:19,429 --> 01:21:21,165 that you're feeding people all their food, 1743 01:21:21,165 --> 01:21:22,732 so you know what they're eating 1744 01:21:22,732 --> 01:21:25,568 and they can't get outside food, so they can't cheat. 1745 01:21:25,568 --> 01:21:27,836 - In the diet, they replaced saturated fat 1746 01:21:27,836 --> 01:21:30,573 with polyunsaturated fat, in intervention. 1747 01:21:30,573 --> 01:21:33,676 And the diet was similar in all the other nutrients 1748 01:21:33,676 --> 01:21:35,411 that they deemed to be important. 1749 01:21:35,411 --> 01:21:37,746 And what they found was that with the intervention, 1750 01:21:37,746 --> 01:21:39,515 cholesterol levels went down, 1751 01:21:39,515 --> 01:21:41,218 which is what you would expect, 1752 01:21:41,218 --> 01:21:44,653 but mortality actually trended up. 1753 01:21:44,653 --> 01:21:46,055 - Turned out that people 1754 01:21:46,055 --> 01:21:47,657 who were on the cholesterol lowering diet 1755 01:21:47,657 --> 01:21:50,393 had more heart disease and more deaths 1756 01:21:50,393 --> 01:21:51,827 than the people eating the controlled diet, 1757 01:21:51,827 --> 01:21:54,363 which was the exact opposite of what they wanted. 1758 01:21:54,363 --> 01:21:57,233 - So it did not support the diet-heart hypothesis. 1759 01:21:57,233 --> 01:21:59,103 - But they never published the results. 1760 01:21:59,103 --> 01:22:03,572 - If you do a very long study going into that study thinking 1761 01:22:03,572 --> 01:22:06,210 that you know what the end in mind is going to be 1762 01:22:06,210 --> 01:22:09,345 and then it isn't the end in mind, I can understand 1763 01:22:09,345 --> 01:22:10,914 that you don't wanna publish the results, 1764 01:22:10,914 --> 01:22:12,648 but it is scientific fraud. 1765 01:22:12,648 --> 01:22:15,384 - Yeah, that is totally unacceptable 1766 01:22:15,384 --> 01:22:17,021 to not publish your data like that. 1767 01:22:17,021 --> 01:22:21,024 - It wasn't published until decades later that a relative 1768 01:22:21,024 --> 01:22:25,194 of the author went digging for the results. 1769 01:22:25,194 --> 01:22:27,964 And this is the detective part that's kind of crazy, 1770 01:22:27,964 --> 01:22:30,000 that he had to go looking through the basements 1771 01:22:30,000 --> 01:22:33,969 to find these data and re-crunch the data and reanalyze it 1772 01:22:33,969 --> 01:22:36,040 and then bring it out to publish it to say, 1773 01:22:36,040 --> 01:22:40,509 "Hey, look, this diet higher in omega-6 oils, lowered ldl, 1774 01:22:40,509 --> 01:22:42,545 "but it increased cardiovascular risk 1775 01:22:42,545 --> 01:22:44,447 "and it increased mortality." 1776 01:22:44,447 --> 01:22:46,883 - When you are making recommendations 1777 01:22:46,883 --> 01:22:50,786 that are not evidence-based, and evidence comes out 1778 01:22:50,786 --> 01:22:55,192 that's contrary to those recommendations, wait a minute, 1779 01:22:55,192 --> 01:22:57,027 that's a problem, right? 1780 01:22:57,027 --> 01:23:01,130 And so what has been the standard approach to dealing 1781 01:23:01,130 --> 01:23:05,669 with that situation, which has come up a number of times? 1782 01:23:05,669 --> 01:23:07,804 Bury the new evidence. 1783 01:23:07,804 --> 01:23:09,639 And that's exactly what's happened, 1784 01:23:09,639 --> 01:23:11,407 and the Minnesota Coronary Study 1785 01:23:11,407 --> 01:23:13,809 is a perfect example of this. 1786 01:23:13,809 --> 01:23:15,411 - The heart foundation didn't come out and say, 1787 01:23:15,411 --> 01:23:16,813 sorry, we're wrong. 1788 01:23:16,813 --> 01:23:18,081 They just ignored it as if it didn't happen 1789 01:23:18,081 --> 01:23:20,849 and they continued to promote vegetable oils 1790 01:23:20,849 --> 01:23:22,652 and poly-unsaturated fats. 1791 01:23:22,652 --> 01:23:24,153 - If that had been published, 1792 01:23:24,153 --> 01:23:26,990 almost certainly what we eat today would be different. 1793 01:23:26,990 --> 01:23:28,892 - This is a reason for everyone 1794 01:23:28,892 --> 01:23:31,728 to be outraged beyond concern. 1795 01:23:33,563 --> 01:23:34,964 - Controlled clinical trials like 1796 01:23:34,964 --> 01:23:37,366 the Minnesota Coronary survey are considered 1797 01:23:37,366 --> 01:23:40,170 the gold standard of research, the type of experiment 1798 01:23:40,170 --> 01:23:42,539 where you can control every bite of food 1799 01:23:42,539 --> 01:23:45,442 and change just one thing, like swapping butter 1800 01:23:45,442 --> 01:23:49,978 for margarine to find out if it has an affect on our health. 1801 01:23:49,978 --> 01:23:52,648 But trials like these are expensive 1802 01:23:52,648 --> 01:23:55,551 and some even considered unethical. 1803 01:23:55,551 --> 01:23:58,888 Cheaper, observational trials are far more common. 1804 01:23:58,888 --> 01:23:59,956 - [Interviewer] How many times have you had oatmeal 1805 01:23:59,956 --> 01:24:00,790 in the last year? 1806 01:24:02,591 --> 01:24:04,428 - I have no clue. 1807 01:24:04,428 --> 01:24:05,761 - Oh my gosh. 1808 01:24:08,497 --> 01:24:10,334 (interviewee laughs) 1809 01:24:10,334 --> 01:24:12,035 - [Dr. Mark] Observational trials often rely 1810 01:24:12,035 --> 01:24:13,870 on food frequency questionnaires 1811 01:24:13,870 --> 01:24:16,606 that rely on people's memories 1812 01:24:16,606 --> 01:24:19,475 and people's memories aren't that great. 1813 01:24:19,475 --> 01:24:21,310 - [Interviewer] How many times have you had orange juice 1814 01:24:21,310 --> 01:24:22,211 in the last year? 1815 01:24:23,813 --> 01:24:25,215 - I wouldn't know a number. 1816 01:24:25,215 --> 01:24:26,215 - Last year? 1817 01:24:29,252 --> 01:24:33,055 - I'm gonna say... 1818 01:24:33,055 --> 01:24:37,727 - If I was to put a number on it, upwards of 20. 1819 01:24:37,727 --> 01:24:39,129 - [Interviewer] In the last year, 20 times? 1820 01:24:39,129 --> 01:24:40,729 - Oh yeah, yes. 1821 01:24:40,729 --> 01:24:41,930 - [Interviewer] So you think you've had it only 1822 01:24:41,930 --> 01:24:43,666 about two times a month? 1823 01:24:43,666 --> 01:24:45,602 - Oh, darn, yeah you're right. 1824 01:24:45,602 --> 01:24:48,004 - I have no idea how many ounces. 1825 01:24:48,004 --> 01:24:49,805 - Well, if I had to break it up into ounces, you know. 1826 01:24:49,805 --> 01:24:51,474 - Probably about the same as you, 1827 01:24:52,709 --> 01:24:53,742 I don't know how many ounces. 1828 01:24:53,742 --> 01:24:54,943 - See what I mean? 1829 01:24:54,943 --> 01:24:58,046 Observational trials generate unreliable data 1830 01:24:58,046 --> 01:25:00,750 and are the reason why nutrition recommendations 1831 01:25:00,750 --> 01:25:03,487 constantly flip and flop. 1832 01:25:03,487 --> 01:25:06,490 Setting nutritional food policy based on unreliable data 1833 01:25:06,490 --> 01:25:11,228 is largely what got us into this big fat mess. 1834 01:25:11,228 --> 01:25:13,263 - [Interviewer] How hard do you think it is to remember 1835 01:25:13,263 --> 01:25:14,231 what you ate? 1836 01:25:15,631 --> 01:25:20,203 - Impossible, unless you have some ridiculous ability 1837 01:25:21,338 --> 01:25:22,639 to remember everything which nobody does, 1838 01:25:22,639 --> 01:25:24,573 nobody remembers things accurately. 1839 01:25:29,612 --> 01:25:32,482 - [Dr. Mark] No one person may represent the antithesis 1840 01:25:32,482 --> 01:25:35,919 of the low-fat diet better than Dave Asprey. 1841 01:25:37,386 --> 01:25:41,023 His company, Bulletproof, has made a morning ritual out 1842 01:25:41,023 --> 01:25:44,493 of adding spoonfuls of fat to coffee. 1843 01:25:44,493 --> 01:25:47,264 - [Dave Asprey] You take from teaspoon to a tablespoon 1844 01:25:47,264 --> 01:25:49,198 of grass-fed butter. 1845 01:25:49,198 --> 01:25:51,234 - [Dr. Mark] Add to that a few more tablespoons 1846 01:25:51,234 --> 01:25:53,536 of purified coconut oil. 1847 01:25:53,536 --> 01:25:58,107 - And then, add your brewed black coffee and you blend it. 1848 01:26:02,946 --> 01:26:05,881 (blender whirring) 1849 01:26:09,518 --> 01:26:12,688 You can see, it looks an awful lot like a latte. 1850 01:26:12,688 --> 01:26:15,259 You drink this, you're just not hungry for hours and hours, 1851 01:26:15,259 --> 01:26:17,727 and you're energized in a way that you'll never get 1852 01:26:17,727 --> 01:26:19,194 from a piece of toast. 1853 01:26:19,194 --> 01:26:21,764 - [Dr. Mark] It was through his own discovery of a high-fat, 1854 01:26:21,764 --> 01:26:26,201 low-carb diet that Dave Asprey lost more than 100 pounds 1855 01:26:26,201 --> 01:26:29,037 and he's kept it off for 10 years. 1856 01:26:29,037 --> 01:26:32,408 - In 2004, after I lost a bunch of the weight I wanted 1857 01:26:32,408 --> 01:26:35,278 to lose, I decided to go to Tibet to learn meditation 1858 01:26:35,278 --> 01:26:36,845 from the masters. 1859 01:26:36,845 --> 01:26:41,384 And, at 18000 feet elevation in a very remote part of Tibet, 1860 01:26:41,384 --> 01:26:44,254 10 degrees below zero, 30 mile an hour winds, 1861 01:26:44,254 --> 01:26:46,389 and I'm feeling kind of wrecked, 'cause there's no air 1862 01:26:46,389 --> 01:26:47,590 and it's cold. 1863 01:26:47,590 --> 01:26:49,492 And this little Tibetan woman gave me a bowl 1864 01:26:49,492 --> 01:26:52,528 of yak butter tea, which is yak butter, mixed with tea, 1865 01:26:52,528 --> 01:26:53,996 and a pinch of salt. 1866 01:26:53,996 --> 01:26:55,264 All right, fine, I'm hungry. 1867 01:26:55,264 --> 01:26:57,834 I drank it, didn't taste great, didn't taste bad. 1868 01:26:57,834 --> 01:27:01,271 About a minute later, I feel really good. 1869 01:27:01,271 --> 01:27:03,540 In fact, I haven't felt this good in days. 1870 01:27:03,540 --> 01:27:05,041 What is happening? 1871 01:27:05,041 --> 01:27:06,309 And I wrote a little note in my journal, how could this be? 1872 01:27:06,309 --> 01:27:08,111 And that day, I had another 20 cups of it, 1873 01:27:08,111 --> 01:27:10,479 and I just felt like I got my life back. 1874 01:27:10,479 --> 01:27:12,014 - [Dr. Mark] Dave came back to the states 1875 01:27:12,014 --> 01:27:15,852 and adapted his yak butter tea experience to coffee. 1876 01:27:15,852 --> 01:27:18,153 Bulletproof is now a multi-million dollar company 1877 01:27:18,153 --> 01:27:21,157 which Dave operates alongside his small organic farm 1878 01:27:21,157 --> 01:27:24,393 where he grows grass-fed sheep and pigs. 1879 01:27:24,393 --> 01:27:25,461 - Hey, guys. 1880 01:27:25,461 --> 01:27:26,295 Hey, Riley. 1881 01:27:27,464 --> 01:27:28,764 - [Dr. Mark] Dave believes the quality 1882 01:27:28,764 --> 01:27:31,134 of the fats you consume is critical. 1883 01:27:31,134 --> 01:27:33,135 - If you're not sure whether fats are good or bad, 1884 01:27:33,135 --> 01:27:35,639 it's okay 'cause some fats are bad, and some fats are good. 1885 01:27:35,639 --> 01:27:37,206 No wonder it's confusing. 1886 01:27:37,206 --> 01:27:42,210 Short version: grass-fed butter, egg yolks, coconut oil, 1887 01:27:43,347 --> 01:27:46,950 avocados, olive oil, those are the good fats. 1888 01:27:46,950 --> 01:27:49,018 - [Dr. Mark] While there is much debate over the role played 1889 01:27:49,018 --> 01:27:51,521 by animal agriculture in climate change, 1890 01:27:51,521 --> 01:27:54,390 raising grass-fed animals on organic pastures 1891 01:27:54,390 --> 01:27:57,693 like Dave's actually helps capture carbon 1892 01:27:57,693 --> 01:28:00,796 and can be a sustainable piece of the climate solution. 1893 01:28:00,796 --> 01:28:02,965 - And the meat you eat must be higher quality 1894 01:28:02,965 --> 01:28:04,867 and guess what high quality animals make? 1895 01:28:04,867 --> 01:28:06,134 High quality poop. 1896 01:28:06,134 --> 01:28:07,303 Guess what high quality poop makes? 1897 01:28:07,303 --> 01:28:08,804 High quality vegetables. 1898 01:28:08,804 --> 01:28:11,174 The vegetables you're eating that don't come from farms 1899 01:28:11,174 --> 01:28:14,076 that look like this are vegetables devoid of nutrients. 1900 01:28:14,076 --> 01:28:16,979 And if we allow that to continue, there will be no topsoil. 1901 01:28:16,979 --> 01:28:19,582 This is how you make topsoil. 1902 01:28:19,582 --> 01:28:21,149 And the Tibetans figured out a long time ago, 1903 01:28:21,149 --> 01:28:23,118 saturated fat helps your brain. 1904 01:28:23,118 --> 01:28:24,920 They were using it for meditation, they were using it 1905 01:28:24,920 --> 01:28:28,090 to help their metabolism work in very harsh conditions 1906 01:28:28,090 --> 01:28:29,425 that are high stress. 1907 01:28:29,425 --> 01:28:31,495 So it's time to throw away the seed oils, 1908 01:28:31,495 --> 01:28:33,729 they are not fit for human consumption. 1909 01:28:33,729 --> 01:28:36,800 If you're eating bad fats, it's going to kill you. 1910 01:28:36,800 --> 01:28:38,734 And this is where the American Heart Association, 1911 01:28:38,734 --> 01:28:41,304 and the American Diabetes Association just got it wrong. 1912 01:28:41,304 --> 01:28:42,772 They told you to eat bad fats 1913 01:28:42,772 --> 01:28:44,273 because of industrial interests, 1914 01:28:44,273 --> 01:28:46,742 and it's time that we change that. 1915 01:28:46,742 --> 01:28:49,446 The science is very, very clear. 1916 01:28:49,446 --> 01:28:52,816 - So how much weight have you lost totally? 1917 01:28:52,816 --> 01:28:53,750 - I believe 30 pounds. 1918 01:28:53,750 --> 01:28:55,250 - That's great. 1919 01:28:55,250 --> 01:28:57,920 - Yeah, and my goal was 50 so I think it's very doable. 1920 01:28:57,920 --> 01:29:00,223 - And you're down another five pounds. 1921 01:29:00,223 --> 01:29:01,023 - I am? 1922 01:29:01,023 --> 01:29:01,858 - Yeah. 1923 01:29:03,192 --> 01:29:05,094 - [Dr. Mark] In two months, Judi has lost weight 1924 01:29:05,094 --> 01:29:09,165 and cut her insulin medications by 60%. 1925 01:29:09,165 --> 01:29:11,200 - I think you have to look inside yourself 1926 01:29:11,200 --> 01:29:15,871 and just determine that nobody is gonna take care 1927 01:29:15,871 --> 01:29:18,041 of you the way that you can. 1928 01:29:18,041 --> 01:29:21,911 I don't feel like anyone could go wrong 1929 01:29:21,911 --> 01:29:24,714 with making an attempt at this but you can not attempt it 1930 01:29:24,714 --> 01:29:25,982 for a week. 1931 01:29:25,982 --> 01:29:28,785 You have to set your mind and set yourself 1932 01:29:28,785 --> 01:29:33,188 to it for a period of time. 1933 01:29:33,188 --> 01:29:36,192 - [Dr. Mark] Judi is inspired by thousands of other patients 1934 01:29:36,192 --> 01:29:38,294 who have reversed their Type 2 Diabetes, 1935 01:29:38,294 --> 01:29:41,197 getting off all medications with a high-fat, 1936 01:29:41,197 --> 01:29:42,765 low-carb nutrition plan. 1937 01:29:42,765 --> 01:29:47,170 - We reversed my Type 2 Diabetes, after one month. 1938 01:29:47,170 --> 01:29:50,406 I couldn't be prouder, no more insulin injections for me, 1939 01:29:50,406 --> 01:29:52,576 and no more metformin, and even statins. 1940 01:29:52,576 --> 01:29:56,679 - I completely reversed my Type 2 Diabetes 1941 01:29:56,679 --> 01:30:00,683 in just three months and before I changed my diet, 1942 01:30:00,683 --> 01:30:02,719 I weighed 212 pounds. 1943 01:30:02,719 --> 01:30:07,557 Now I weigh 165 pounds and I take zero medications. 1944 01:30:07,557 --> 01:30:11,495 - Before I started, I weighed about 265 pounds. 1945 01:30:11,495 --> 01:30:13,729 I now weigh 130 pounds. 1946 01:30:13,729 --> 01:30:18,000 Now I can enjoy my family, I can do everything 1947 01:30:18,000 --> 01:30:20,169 that you should do to live a life. 1948 01:30:20,169 --> 01:30:22,805 It's just been a total change. 1949 01:30:22,805 --> 01:30:27,810 - I have seen so many individual transformative patients, 1950 01:30:29,377 --> 01:30:34,050 what an honor that is to share that journey with a patient. 1951 01:30:34,050 --> 01:30:38,353 - I feel like if a person just is determined 1952 01:30:38,353 --> 01:30:42,457 and sets their goals that there isn't anything you can't do. 1953 01:30:42,457 --> 01:30:44,527 You just have to decide that feeling good 1954 01:30:44,527 --> 01:30:47,196 and being healthy is more important than the things you used 1955 01:30:47,196 --> 01:30:48,631 to like to eat. 1956 01:30:48,631 --> 01:30:51,067 It isn't very long before your tastes change 1957 01:30:51,067 --> 01:30:52,234 and you really like it. 1958 01:30:56,205 --> 01:30:58,307 - When I first started exploring low-carb, 1959 01:30:58,307 --> 01:31:01,477 I tried to keep it very quiet because it had been 1960 01:31:01,477 --> 01:31:04,714 and maybe still is a very controversial subject. 1961 01:31:04,714 --> 01:31:07,683 In other countries, dietitians were losing their licensure 1962 01:31:07,683 --> 01:31:11,319 over practicing low-carb, let alone medical doctors as well. 1963 01:31:11,319 --> 01:31:14,624 - Professor Noakes, on a charge of unprofessional conduct, 1964 01:31:14,624 --> 01:31:18,527 the majority of this committee find you not guilty. 1965 01:31:18,527 --> 01:31:20,796 (audience applausing) 1966 01:31:20,796 --> 01:31:23,532 - [Dr. Mark] The controversy over low-carb may be slowly, 1967 01:31:23,532 --> 01:31:25,000 quietly, changing. 1968 01:31:25,000 --> 01:31:28,271 In the long, drawn out case of Doctor Tim Noakes, 1969 01:31:28,271 --> 01:31:30,974 the final ruling found in his favor. 1970 01:31:30,974 --> 01:31:33,241 - So as far as we're concerned, we made the point 1971 01:31:33,241 --> 01:31:35,310 that this diet is safe. 1972 01:31:35,310 --> 01:31:37,045 That's all we really set out to do. 1973 01:31:38,481 --> 01:31:41,517 - The low-carb, ketogenic diet is a low inflammation diet. 1974 01:31:41,517 --> 01:31:43,152 - [Dr. Mark] More and more brave practitioners 1975 01:31:43,152 --> 01:31:45,420 are going against the dietary guidelines 1976 01:31:45,420 --> 01:31:47,657 to help their patients find better health, 1977 01:31:47,657 --> 01:31:49,125 like Brian Lenzkes, 1978 01:31:49,125 --> 01:31:52,595 who also teaches low-carb nutrition classes at his church. 1979 01:31:52,595 --> 01:31:57,500 So far, Brian's congregation has lost more than 2000 pounds. 1980 01:31:57,500 --> 01:32:01,036 - Our results are in purple here, low-carb. 1981 01:32:01,036 --> 01:32:02,537 - [Dr. Mark] The two year findings 1982 01:32:02,537 --> 01:32:05,308 from Sarah Hallberg's clinical trial show that a low-carb, 1983 01:32:05,308 --> 01:32:07,611 high-fat diet is equally as effective 1984 01:32:07,611 --> 01:32:11,414 as bariatric surgery in reversing Type 2 Diabetes. 1985 01:32:11,414 --> 01:32:14,082 - So your assessment of the vilification 1986 01:32:14,082 --> 01:32:17,353 of saturated fat after your experience in this trial? 1987 01:32:17,353 --> 01:32:18,888 - Well, I'll tell you, 1988 01:32:18,888 --> 01:32:21,925 what we say is that we do not restrict saturated fat 1989 01:32:21,925 --> 01:32:23,992 in these patients, and yet they're having 1990 01:32:23,992 --> 01:32:27,196 these remarkable results. 1991 01:32:27,196 --> 01:32:28,631 - [Dr. Mark] In April of 2019, 1992 01:32:28,631 --> 01:32:31,734 the American Diabetes Association issued an update 1993 01:32:31,734 --> 01:32:36,072 to its longstanding position that diets lower than 130 grams 1994 01:32:36,072 --> 01:32:38,942 of carbs a day are unsafe. 1995 01:32:38,942 --> 01:32:42,545 - I was thrilled, it felt like Christmas morning to me. 1996 01:32:42,545 --> 01:32:44,714 It was the very first time in writing 1997 01:32:44,714 --> 01:32:46,448 from a huge organization that said 1998 01:32:46,448 --> 01:32:48,483 what I was doing was okay. 1999 01:32:48,483 --> 01:32:50,687 What I was doing was an approach 2000 01:32:50,687 --> 01:32:53,156 that was helping my patients. 2001 01:32:53,156 --> 01:32:56,125 And while it was something that I have known for years, 2002 01:32:56,125 --> 01:32:58,126 it was the first time I felt safe. 2003 01:32:58,126 --> 01:32:59,896 It was the first time I felt safe 2004 01:32:59,896 --> 01:33:02,197 to give these recommendations. 2005 01:33:02,197 --> 01:33:05,100 - [Dr. Mark] In 2015, after more than 50 years 2006 01:33:05,100 --> 01:33:07,903 of condemning foods like eggs, lobster and shrimp, 2007 01:33:07,903 --> 01:33:11,307 the American Heart Association quietly dropped 2008 01:33:11,307 --> 01:33:13,276 their longstanding recommendation 2009 01:33:13,276 --> 01:33:15,210 against dietary cholesterol, 2010 01:33:15,210 --> 01:33:19,081 saying it's no longer a nutrient of concern. 2011 01:33:19,081 --> 01:33:22,151 That same year, the U.S. Dietary Guidelines Committee 2012 01:33:22,151 --> 01:33:25,722 removed the cap on dietary fat consumption, 2013 01:33:25,722 --> 01:33:28,758 admitting there's no evidence that eating fat is bad 2014 01:33:28,758 --> 01:33:33,328 for health, but the cap on saturated fat remains. 2015 01:33:33,328 --> 01:33:35,932 - The hypothesis that saturated fats are bad 2016 01:33:35,932 --> 01:33:38,768 for health has been the most tested hypothesis 2017 01:33:38,768 --> 01:33:40,870 in the history of nutrition science. 2018 01:33:40,870 --> 01:33:43,371 There has been no hypothesis that has been more tested. 2019 01:33:43,371 --> 01:33:47,542 Some 75,000 people, 65,000 somewhere in that range, 2020 01:33:47,542 --> 01:33:49,377 depending on which studies you include, 2021 01:33:49,377 --> 01:33:51,313 and none of them could show 2022 01:33:51,313 --> 01:33:54,050 that saturated fats had any effect on total 2023 01:33:54,050 --> 01:33:55,684 or cardiovascular mortality. 2024 01:33:57,553 --> 01:33:59,723 There's no evidence for it. 2025 01:33:59,723 --> 01:34:01,825 - [Dr. Mark] Even so, the American Heart Association, 2026 01:34:01,825 --> 01:34:05,094 who takes much of its funding from Big Food and Big Pharma, 2027 01:34:05,094 --> 01:34:08,397 continues to stand behind its long-held position 2028 01:34:08,397 --> 01:34:11,166 that saturated fats are the cause of heart disease 2029 01:34:11,166 --> 01:34:14,603 and that refined vegetable oils are heart-healthy. 2030 01:34:14,603 --> 01:34:18,441 - But there is so much politics and so much money, 2031 01:34:18,441 --> 01:34:23,011 and Big Pharma and the sugar industry behind trying 2032 01:34:24,447 --> 01:34:28,283 to keep those guidelines as they are right now. 2033 01:34:28,283 --> 01:34:32,354 I feel like eventually they will change, but when? 2034 01:34:32,354 --> 01:34:33,923 It could be 50 years. 2035 01:34:33,923 --> 01:34:35,457 We can't wait 50 years. 2036 01:34:35,457 --> 01:34:40,463 Millions of people have died already because of this mess. 2037 01:34:41,930 --> 01:34:43,265 - [Dr. Mark] Doug Reynolds isn't waiting any longer. 2038 01:34:43,265 --> 01:34:45,801 His company, LowCarbUSA is partnering 2039 01:34:45,801 --> 01:34:48,603 with dozens of physicians, nutritionists and dieticians 2040 01:34:48,603 --> 01:34:51,073 to create a set of global, clinical guidelines 2041 01:34:51,073 --> 01:34:53,276 that teach medical professionals how to safely 2042 01:34:53,276 --> 01:34:56,545 and effectively practice low-carb nutrition. 2043 01:34:56,545 --> 01:34:58,714 - Now it gives a lot of them confidence 2044 01:34:58,714 --> 01:35:01,550 to maybe start implementing it in their practice, 2045 01:35:01,550 --> 01:35:05,121 where before, they weren't quite sure how to do it 2046 01:35:05,121 --> 01:35:08,590 or they were afraid that other doctors weren't doing it. 2047 01:35:08,590 --> 01:35:10,692 Now, they're actually following some kind 2048 01:35:10,692 --> 01:35:12,094 of set of guidelines. 2049 01:35:12,094 --> 01:35:14,197 - And what about the official dietary guidelines 2050 01:35:14,197 --> 01:35:15,497 for Americans? 2051 01:35:15,497 --> 01:35:17,500 The three main eating patterns recommended 2052 01:35:17,500 --> 01:35:20,736 by the USDA all feature more than 50% 2053 01:35:20,736 --> 01:35:24,006 of daily calories as carbohydrates. 2054 01:35:24,006 --> 01:35:26,809 According to the dietary guidelines, low carbohydrate, 2055 01:35:26,809 --> 01:35:30,278 high-fat diets are still, not an option. 2056 01:35:32,115 --> 01:35:35,584 In 2017, the National Academy of Sciences and Medicine 2057 01:35:35,584 --> 01:35:38,621 performed the first ever outside scientific review 2058 01:35:38,621 --> 01:35:41,090 of the U.S. Dietary Guidelines and found 2059 01:35:41,090 --> 01:35:45,361 that the process lacked transparency and scientific rigor. 2060 01:35:45,361 --> 01:35:47,863 Recommending a single dietary pattern 2061 01:35:47,863 --> 01:35:51,567 to an entire population was a huge mistake. 2062 01:35:51,567 --> 01:35:56,205 Not only did the low-fat diet not work, it did us harm 2063 01:35:56,205 --> 01:36:00,076 and resulted in greater obesity and disease. 2064 01:36:00,076 --> 01:36:04,580 The lesson of the low-fat diet may be that nutrition science 2065 01:36:04,580 --> 01:36:07,884 is deeply flawed and our nation's dietary guidelines 2066 01:36:07,884 --> 01:36:10,752 have been heavily influenced by the food industry 2067 01:36:10,752 --> 01:36:13,389 and the enormous amount of money at stake. 2068 01:36:13,389 --> 01:36:14,858 - What we are living now is just 2069 01:36:14,858 --> 01:36:17,093 so completely unsustainable. 2070 01:36:17,093 --> 01:36:18,727 These unsustainable rates of obesity 2071 01:36:18,727 --> 01:36:21,296 and diabetes were bankrupting our nation, 2072 01:36:21,296 --> 01:36:25,334 it's destroying people's lives, it's destroying our country, 2073 01:36:25,334 --> 01:36:27,635 and it has to stop. 2074 01:36:27,635 --> 01:36:29,272 - We are not treating the disease, 2075 01:36:29,272 --> 01:36:31,907 we're treating the symptoms of the disease. 2076 01:36:31,907 --> 01:36:34,176 And so it should be of no surprise to anyone 2077 01:36:34,176 --> 01:36:37,179 that we're not getting better and we're not going 2078 01:36:37,179 --> 01:36:41,850 to get better until we recognize what the real problem is. 2079 01:36:41,850 --> 01:36:45,321 If we changed the food, we could solve this problem. 2080 01:36:45,321 --> 01:36:48,191 - [Tracy] We get so many mixed messages about diet and-- 2081 01:36:48,191 --> 01:36:50,725 - Does the government have a role in telling people 2082 01:36:50,725 --> 01:36:52,194 how to eat? 2083 01:36:52,194 --> 01:36:53,696 - [Tracy] We kinda have to find what really works for us 2084 01:36:53,696 --> 01:36:55,430 but we still need to know the truth. 2085 01:36:55,430 --> 01:36:57,901 - It's a fascinating question that has a lot 2086 01:36:57,901 --> 01:37:02,670 of different opinions and certainly, the past 30, 40 years 2087 01:37:02,670 --> 01:37:05,273 of experience would say, no, they probably shouldn't 2088 01:37:05,273 --> 01:37:06,541 be in that role. 2089 01:37:06,541 --> 01:37:08,777 - The people at the top are not going to change, 2090 01:37:08,777 --> 01:37:11,514 so we have to get this going as a bottom up revolution 2091 01:37:11,514 --> 01:37:14,782 and get more and more people on board until they're shamed 2092 01:37:14,782 --> 01:37:17,786 into changing the guidelines because the swell 2093 01:37:17,786 --> 01:37:20,656 of the population is just ignoring them. 2094 01:37:20,656 --> 01:37:23,526 - The change is coming from the people, 2095 01:37:23,526 --> 01:37:25,193 because they've changed. 2096 01:37:25,193 --> 01:37:27,496 They're forcing the doctors to change, 2097 01:37:27,496 --> 01:37:29,764 if we can change the medical profession, 2098 01:37:29,764 --> 01:37:31,901 I think we'll do something. 2099 01:37:31,901 --> 01:37:35,004 - If you're pre-diabetic or Type 2 Diabetic, 2100 01:37:35,004 --> 01:37:39,308 there is a way out, a path forward to health and vitality, 2101 01:37:39,308 --> 01:37:41,844 to fewer drugs and more energy. 2102 01:37:41,844 --> 01:37:43,947 You can get your life back and all you have 2103 01:37:43,947 --> 01:37:46,749 to do is eat real food. 2104 01:37:46,749 --> 01:37:49,117 - If somebody has Type 2 Diabetes, 2105 01:37:49,117 --> 01:37:52,755 they can go online right now, they can watch your movie, 2106 01:37:52,755 --> 01:37:56,058 they can read up on something, they can buy a book 2107 01:37:56,058 --> 01:37:59,428 and start reversing their disease today. 2108 01:38:00,595 --> 01:38:03,366 - What I see on a day-to-day basis 2109 01:38:03,366 --> 01:38:07,036 with my individual patients as well as my own family 2110 01:38:07,036 --> 01:38:11,139 and my own friends, I think it's missed in some 2111 01:38:11,139 --> 01:38:14,277 of this research, and what that is is freedom. 2112 01:38:16,711 --> 01:38:19,115 It's freedom from being hungry. 2113 01:38:20,483 --> 01:38:22,750 It's freedom from cravings. 2114 01:38:22,750 --> 01:38:24,386 It's freedom from headaches. 2115 01:38:25,920 --> 01:38:28,424 It's freedom from reactive hypoglycemia. 2116 01:38:28,424 --> 01:38:30,492 It's freedom from mood swings. 2117 01:38:30,492 --> 01:38:32,594 It's better quality of sleep. 2118 01:38:34,296 --> 01:38:36,064 It's better quality of life. 2119 01:38:37,532 --> 01:38:41,370 - I feel great, I feel really good. 2120 01:38:41,370 --> 01:38:42,237 Hi, girls. 2121 01:38:51,447 --> 01:38:53,948 (piano music) 2122 01:39:25,247 --> 01:39:27,816 (upbeat music) 2123 01:40:16,898 --> 01:40:19,468 (violin music) 2124 01:41:02,678 --> 01:41:05,113 (cool music) 175776

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