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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:14,981 --> 00:00:16,314 [low humming tones] 2 00:00:16,317 --> 00:00:17,650 [woman screaming] 3 00:00:17,718 --> 00:00:20,619 � � 4 00:00:20,621 --> 00:00:22,321 - When you say "slasher movies," 5 00:00:22,390 --> 00:00:24,890 that's when the killer became the star. 6 00:00:24,959 --> 00:00:28,326 - Don't go in there! 7 00:00:28,329 --> 00:00:30,262 - "Halloween," it happens to be the Cadillac 8 00:00:30,330 --> 00:00:31,463 of slasher movies. 9 00:00:31,532 --> 00:00:33,265 - You don't know what it is... 10 00:00:33,267 --> 00:00:34,633 - [screams] 11 00:00:34,669 --> 00:00:37,636 - That makes Michael Myers go, "Her!" 12 00:00:37,704 --> 00:00:40,472 - "Psycho" was the first time I was aware of the editing. 13 00:00:40,475 --> 00:00:42,474 - The assembly of pieces of film... 14 00:00:42,542 --> 00:00:44,009 - [screaming] 15 00:00:44,011 --> 00:00:45,377 - To create fright. 16 00:00:45,446 --> 00:00:46,979 - "Texas Chainsaw Massacre" 17 00:00:47,047 --> 00:00:48,647 is one of the most important movies. 18 00:00:48,715 --> 00:00:50,483 - That ratchets up horror to a whole other level. 19 00:00:50,551 --> 00:00:52,484 - That's the one that defined me. 20 00:00:52,487 --> 00:00:54,887 - Sometimes you just want to sit down and watch Jason 21 00:00:54,955 --> 00:00:57,189 take out a lot of stupid teenagers. 22 00:00:57,257 --> 00:00:59,959 - There are a number of pictures where you're able 23 00:01:00,027 --> 00:01:02,294 to actually take your deepest, 24 00:01:02,362 --> 00:01:05,698 most antisocial impulses for a walk. 25 00:01:05,766 --> 00:01:07,699 - "Horror" became a dirty word 26 00:01:07,767 --> 00:01:09,301 in the late '70s, early '80s. 27 00:01:09,370 --> 00:01:10,503 - These films hate women. 28 00:01:10,571 --> 00:01:13,305 - 55% of that audience was women. 29 00:01:13,307 --> 00:01:17,142 - They're the final girls. That's who you identify with. 30 00:01:17,210 --> 00:01:20,112 - [laughing hysterically] 31 00:01:20,181 --> 00:01:23,182 [chilling string music] 32 00:01:23,250 --> 00:01:30,289 � � 33 00:01:47,507 --> 00:01:49,842 [low tones ringing] 34 00:01:49,909 --> 00:01:51,710 - There's the moment in "Halloween" 35 00:01:51,778 --> 00:01:54,980 where I'm standing behind... [laughing] This house. 36 00:01:55,782 --> 00:01:58,551 I don't know anybody yet. I'm 19 years old, 37 00:01:58,619 --> 00:02:01,954 and saying to myself, "What am I doing? 38 00:02:02,022 --> 00:02:03,422 How do I do this?" 39 00:02:03,491 --> 00:02:05,357 And then you hear, "All right, everybody. 40 00:02:05,359 --> 00:02:06,692 "Here we go, we're rolling! 41 00:02:06,760 --> 00:02:08,360 Cameras rolling!" 42 00:02:08,428 --> 00:02:10,696 And I have to start screaming. 43 00:02:10,764 --> 00:02:13,699 And I had never screamed in my life. 44 00:02:13,767 --> 00:02:16,035 Who screams? 45 00:02:16,103 --> 00:02:17,235 Who screams? 46 00:02:17,238 --> 00:02:18,436 [screams] 47 00:02:18,439 --> 00:02:19,738 - [shrieks] 48 00:02:19,740 --> 00:02:21,107 - [screams] 49 00:02:21,175 --> 00:02:24,243 [continual screaming] 50 00:02:24,311 --> 00:02:25,744 - [screams] - [screams] 51 00:02:25,812 --> 00:02:27,145 - [screams] - [shouts] 52 00:02:27,148 --> 00:02:29,581 - No! - [screaming] 53 00:02:29,584 --> 00:02:31,784 - I suppose, for a lot of people 54 00:02:31,852 --> 00:02:35,053 who grew up on "Friday the 13th," 55 00:02:35,122 --> 00:02:39,925 "Halloween," "Scream," horror equals gore. 56 00:02:39,994 --> 00:02:42,127 - [screams] 57 00:02:42,129 --> 00:02:43,262 [blood squelches] 58 00:02:43,330 --> 00:02:44,329 - You have the idea 59 00:02:44,332 --> 00:02:45,731 that all horror films 60 00:02:45,799 --> 00:02:46,932 are slasher films, which is wrong, 61 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:48,600 and then you have the idea 62 00:02:48,603 --> 00:02:51,303 that, uh, slasher films are purely misogynistic 63 00:02:51,371 --> 00:02:53,906 and that the only people who watch them are men, 64 00:02:53,973 --> 00:02:55,574 and that's also wrong. 65 00:02:55,642 --> 00:02:57,476 narrator: The most extreme form 66 00:02:57,544 --> 00:03:01,313 of horror films--slashers-- have been vilified 67 00:03:01,382 --> 00:03:02,948 since they first came on the scene. 68 00:03:03,016 --> 00:03:04,449 - [cackles] narrator: But they have also 69 00:03:04,517 --> 00:03:06,585 been tremendously popular. 70 00:03:06,653 --> 00:03:08,487 The worst of them can still be entertaining. 71 00:03:08,556 --> 00:03:11,957 The best of them tell us brutal truths about ourselves, 72 00:03:12,026 --> 00:03:13,959 our fears, and our secret desires. 73 00:03:14,027 --> 00:03:17,996 � � 74 00:03:18,032 --> 00:03:20,099 - [shouts] 75 00:03:20,167 --> 00:03:21,433 - [screams] 76 00:03:21,502 --> 00:03:23,936 [hollering] 77 00:03:24,003 --> 00:03:27,105 - 1974, Bob Clark comes in 78 00:03:27,174 --> 00:03:28,507 with "Black Christmas." 79 00:03:28,576 --> 00:03:30,108 - [spluttering] [choir singing eerily] 80 00:03:30,176 --> 00:03:33,579 - [choking] 81 00:03:33,647 --> 00:03:37,449 - That is the first POV of slasher: 82 00:03:37,518 --> 00:03:40,785 girls in the sorority house over the holiday... 83 00:03:40,788 --> 00:03:42,520 - [groans] - [screams] 84 00:03:42,523 --> 00:03:44,657 - But that becomes sort of the--the precursor 85 00:03:44,725 --> 00:03:47,125 to John Carpenter, who comes in with "Halloween." 86 00:03:47,194 --> 00:03:50,095 [menacing music] 87 00:03:50,131 --> 00:03:56,168 � � 88 00:03:57,738 --> 00:04:00,139 - "Halloween," technically, is a slasher movie. 89 00:04:00,207 --> 00:04:02,274 but it happens to be the Cadillac 90 00:04:02,343 --> 00:04:03,809 of slasher movies. 91 00:04:03,877 --> 00:04:05,811 ["Halloween" theme plays] 92 00:04:05,879 --> 00:04:07,345 [suspenseful synth music] 93 00:04:07,348 --> 00:04:09,681 - "Halloween" also made 94 00:04:09,750 --> 00:04:12,417 horror films mainstream. 95 00:04:12,420 --> 00:04:13,986 It was one of the ones that 96 00:04:14,053 --> 00:04:16,922 people who "don't like horror movies" still watch. 97 00:04:16,990 --> 00:04:18,490 - [heavy breathing] 98 00:04:18,558 --> 00:04:21,359 - "Halloween" is remarkably effective, 99 00:04:21,362 --> 00:04:25,063 like, from the opening long take of a child 100 00:04:25,131 --> 00:04:26,699 looking through a mask. 101 00:04:26,767 --> 00:04:28,767 - A young boy murders his sister 102 00:04:28,835 --> 00:04:31,737 and is put away in a mental institution. 103 00:04:31,805 --> 00:04:34,706 And 16 years later... 104 00:04:34,709 --> 00:04:36,976 he escapes and comes back to the town 105 00:04:37,044 --> 00:04:40,178 and to the scene of the crime. 106 00:04:40,181 --> 00:04:42,381 - And over the course of Halloween day, 107 00:04:42,449 --> 00:04:45,417 Michael Myers slowly lets his presence known 108 00:04:45,485 --> 00:04:46,952 to Laurie Strode. 109 00:04:47,020 --> 00:04:49,655 [knocking on door] - Tommy, hurry up! 110 00:04:49,723 --> 00:04:52,391 Tommy, please! [shouts] 111 00:04:52,459 --> 00:04:53,926 - This is rare in a lot of horror films-- 112 00:04:53,994 --> 00:04:55,928 actually, like, a likeable lead. 113 00:04:55,996 --> 00:04:57,529 You know, in "Friday the 13th," 114 00:04:57,598 --> 00:04:59,631 you want both of those actors to die. 115 00:04:59,699 --> 00:05:00,932 [laughing] You don't want 116 00:05:01,001 --> 00:05:02,567 Jamie Lee Curtis to die. 117 00:05:02,635 --> 00:05:05,136 You want Jamie Lee Curtis to survive. 118 00:05:05,139 --> 00:05:07,639 - I think it all had to do with emotion. 119 00:05:07,708 --> 00:05:10,442 John said very clearly what he wanted. 120 00:05:10,510 --> 00:05:12,477 He said, "I really want her vulnerability." 121 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:14,046 It's why he cast me, apparently, 122 00:05:14,113 --> 00:05:17,816 and I didn't really understand that at 19. 123 00:05:17,818 --> 00:05:19,651 [menacing music] 124 00:05:19,719 --> 00:05:22,320 And I learned what John meant 125 00:05:22,323 --> 00:05:24,223 when I went and saw the movie 126 00:05:24,291 --> 00:05:26,558 in Hollywood at a theater. 127 00:05:26,626 --> 00:05:29,895 There's the sequence where Laurie Strode leaves 128 00:05:29,963 --> 00:05:32,631 the babysitting house... 129 00:05:32,700 --> 00:05:35,567 and there's this long walk between the two houses. 130 00:05:35,636 --> 00:05:37,970 And of course, the entire audience 131 00:05:38,038 --> 00:05:39,771 started screaming, 132 00:05:39,840 --> 00:05:42,908 "Don't go in there!" 133 00:05:42,976 --> 00:05:44,843 � � 134 00:05:44,911 --> 00:05:48,246 And that's when I understood what John was going for 135 00:05:48,249 --> 00:05:50,082 was that you cared enough about her 136 00:05:50,149 --> 00:05:52,517 that you would tell her, "Don't do this." 137 00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:54,319 [sinister music] 138 00:05:54,387 --> 00:05:56,354 - So much of horror is about mood, atmosphere, 139 00:05:56,357 --> 00:05:58,390 and cinematic style. 140 00:05:58,459 --> 00:06:00,793 John Carpenter using the wide screen 141 00:06:00,861 --> 00:06:04,129 and the Panaglide camera starting with "Halloween," 142 00:06:04,198 --> 00:06:06,798 it's something that makes the film 143 00:06:06,801 --> 00:06:08,933 that much more effective. 144 00:06:08,936 --> 00:06:11,870 [sharp tone plays] 145 00:06:11,872 --> 00:06:14,372 - When I met John, I was immediately impressed 146 00:06:14,375 --> 00:06:16,208 that he wanted to use the camera 147 00:06:16,276 --> 00:06:19,345 to tell the story, rather than just a recording device. 148 00:06:19,412 --> 00:06:21,980 The Steadicam-- the Panaglide at the time-- 149 00:06:22,016 --> 00:06:24,616 was one of those tools that John and I looked at 150 00:06:24,684 --> 00:06:27,285 as being a key technique-- 151 00:06:27,354 --> 00:06:29,954 moving the camera fluidly. 152 00:06:29,957 --> 00:06:31,623 � � 153 00:06:31,692 --> 00:06:34,226 - You didn't know where Michael Myers was. 154 00:06:34,294 --> 00:06:35,961 You know, you saw him outside, 155 00:06:36,029 --> 00:06:38,029 and then you'd be in making out, you know, 156 00:06:38,032 --> 00:06:39,731 on a couch, and it's like, 157 00:06:39,799 --> 00:06:42,367 "Okay, he's out there someplace." 158 00:06:42,369 --> 00:06:43,869 - Like, you'll watch a lot of these movies 159 00:06:43,937 --> 00:06:45,637 and you're not scared anymore. 160 00:06:45,706 --> 00:06:47,639 And when you think, of like, Michael Myers, like, 161 00:06:47,641 --> 00:06:50,975 I was freaked out for years. 162 00:06:50,978 --> 00:06:54,913 Just the idea of some, just, dude popping out of places... 163 00:06:54,981 --> 00:06:58,016 and murdering you real quick. 164 00:06:58,084 --> 00:07:01,186 - [screams] 165 00:07:01,254 --> 00:07:03,889 Oh! [groans] 166 00:07:03,957 --> 00:07:06,691 - Michael Myers is the human being 167 00:07:06,759 --> 00:07:10,262 that's actually a wolf wearing a human face. 168 00:07:10,330 --> 00:07:12,731 You know, the human that just ain't human. 169 00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:13,998 [sinister music] 170 00:07:14,001 --> 00:07:15,200 - [gasps] 171 00:07:15,268 --> 00:07:16,468 [whimpering] 172 00:07:16,537 --> 00:07:18,736 [jarring screeching tones] 173 00:07:18,739 --> 00:07:21,272 - What you saw in the sequels was an attempt 174 00:07:21,275 --> 00:07:24,442 to kind of shoehorn in, uh, 175 00:07:24,445 --> 00:07:26,211 other characters or other mythologies 176 00:07:26,280 --> 00:07:27,913 just to make it more interesting. 177 00:07:27,981 --> 00:07:31,417 - In "Halloween II," they make it that Laurie 178 00:07:31,485 --> 00:07:33,685 and Michael Myers are brother and sister. 179 00:07:33,754 --> 00:07:35,086 - That Strode girl? 180 00:07:35,155 --> 00:07:38,490 That's Michael Myers' sister. 181 00:07:38,559 --> 00:07:39,925 - He's not her brother. 182 00:07:39,993 --> 00:07:41,126 She's not his sister. 183 00:07:41,194 --> 00:07:42,594 That's just bull [bleep]. 184 00:07:42,662 --> 00:07:44,629 Nobody was coming from that point of view 185 00:07:44,632 --> 00:07:46,431 when they were making the first one. 186 00:07:46,499 --> 00:07:48,900 And what makes the first one so good 187 00:07:48,903 --> 00:07:51,837 is the fact that you don't know what it is 188 00:07:51,905 --> 00:07:55,106 that makes Michael Myers go, "Her." 189 00:07:55,175 --> 00:07:56,774 [menacing music] 190 00:07:56,777 --> 00:07:58,743 - "Halloween" was one of the first films 191 00:07:58,811 --> 00:08:01,580 to really initiate the final girl as a trope. 192 00:08:01,648 --> 00:08:04,616 A main character who's a woman 193 00:08:04,684 --> 00:08:06,718 who is first a victim 194 00:08:06,786 --> 00:08:09,922 and ultimately, a survivor who fights back. 195 00:08:09,990 --> 00:08:11,957 - [cries out] 196 00:08:12,025 --> 00:08:13,425 - It's a formula that really worked, 197 00:08:13,493 --> 00:08:16,528 and it's become so common 198 00:08:16,597 --> 00:08:18,630 that I think most people don't even think about it. 199 00:08:18,698 --> 00:08:20,532 - Go upstairs, get Lindsey, and lock the bedroom door. 200 00:08:20,601 --> 00:08:21,933 - I'm scared! - Do as I say! 201 00:08:22,002 --> 00:08:24,102 - The boogeyman... - It's pure. 202 00:08:24,170 --> 00:08:27,105 There's something very pure and clean about it. 203 00:08:27,173 --> 00:08:28,607 No! [struggling] 204 00:08:28,675 --> 00:08:31,977 Innocence and danger coming together 205 00:08:32,045 --> 00:08:33,278 with that music 206 00:08:33,346 --> 00:08:34,746 and that camera work 207 00:08:34,814 --> 00:08:36,481 and the performances 208 00:08:36,549 --> 00:08:39,684 is why I think we're still talking about it today. 209 00:08:39,753 --> 00:08:41,419 narrator: John Carpenter's "Halloween" 210 00:08:41,488 --> 00:08:43,621 launched the slasher boom of the '80s. 211 00:08:43,624 --> 00:08:46,625 Its influence is still felt today. 212 00:08:46,693 --> 00:08:48,126 But it didn't come out of nowhere. 213 00:08:48,128 --> 00:08:50,262 - [screaming] 214 00:08:54,534 --> 00:08:55,901 - Good evening. 215 00:08:55,969 --> 00:08:57,469 [eerie ambient music] 216 00:08:57,537 --> 00:08:59,204 I have some news that will delight you. 217 00:08:59,272 --> 00:09:03,242 � � 218 00:09:03,310 --> 00:09:06,244 Murder is not dead. 219 00:09:06,247 --> 00:09:08,714 - Starting with, uh, Alfred Hitchcock's "Psycho" 220 00:09:08,782 --> 00:09:10,849 in 1960, 221 00:09:10,918 --> 00:09:15,220 we started seeing a new approach to horror. 222 00:09:15,288 --> 00:09:19,657 It was the, uh...the horror that didn't come out of, uh, 223 00:09:19,660 --> 00:09:23,094 some grotesque radioactive anomaly, 224 00:09:23,162 --> 00:09:25,764 but it could be lurking next door. 225 00:09:25,832 --> 00:09:27,932 A nice young man like Norman Bates 226 00:09:27,935 --> 00:09:30,468 could be the new Frankenstein, the new Dracula. 227 00:09:30,471 --> 00:09:31,737 - Do you go out with friends? 228 00:09:33,573 --> 00:09:35,473 - [swallows] 229 00:09:35,542 --> 00:09:38,277 Well, a--a boy's best friend is his mother. 230 00:09:38,345 --> 00:09:40,379 - Hitch always thought it was a comedy. 231 00:09:40,447 --> 00:09:41,813 He always claimed that. 232 00:09:41,815 --> 00:09:43,948 - The content, as such, 233 00:09:43,951 --> 00:09:45,917 was, I felt, rather amusing. 234 00:09:45,985 --> 00:09:48,320 - My mother, um-- what is the phrase... 235 00:09:48,387 --> 00:09:50,288 [tense music] 236 00:09:50,357 --> 00:09:52,190 She isn't quite herself today. 237 00:09:52,258 --> 00:09:54,492 - But it's very perverted 238 00:09:54,495 --> 00:09:56,094 and very sick. 239 00:09:56,096 --> 00:09:57,762 - There's hangers in the closet 240 00:09:57,831 --> 00:09:59,965 and stationery with "Bates Motel" printed on it, 241 00:10:00,033 --> 00:10:01,666 in case you want to make your friends back home 242 00:10:01,734 --> 00:10:03,434 feel envious. [chuckles] 243 00:10:03,437 --> 00:10:04,970 And the, uh... 244 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:09,173 Over there. 245 00:10:09,176 --> 00:10:10,842 - The bathroom. - Yeah. 246 00:10:10,910 --> 00:10:12,611 - One of the big things 247 00:10:12,646 --> 00:10:14,613 that I think to this day was still shocking about "Psycho" 248 00:10:14,648 --> 00:10:16,047 was you killed the protagonist 249 00:10:16,116 --> 00:10:17,382 40 minutes in to the movie. - Yeah. 250 00:10:17,450 --> 00:10:19,150 - Even knowing that the shower scene 251 00:10:19,218 --> 00:10:20,785 was coming, I was like, "Wait, she can't be the one 252 00:10:20,788 --> 00:10:22,386 who gets killed." - "There's so much movie left." 253 00:10:22,389 --> 00:10:24,656 ["The Murder" playing] 254 00:10:24,725 --> 00:10:26,858 - [screams] 255 00:10:26,926 --> 00:10:28,326 No! [shouts] 256 00:10:28,395 --> 00:10:31,196 - "Psycho" raised terror to a level 257 00:10:31,264 --> 00:10:33,464 that I had never seen, anyway, 258 00:10:33,467 --> 00:10:36,001 because it was near realistic. 259 00:10:36,068 --> 00:10:37,368 - No! 260 00:10:37,371 --> 00:10:39,605 - Before "Psycho," that was not imaginable, 261 00:10:39,673 --> 00:10:41,473 that level of terror. 262 00:10:41,541 --> 00:10:44,075 � � 263 00:10:44,143 --> 00:10:45,577 "Psycho" and Hitchcock 264 00:10:45,645 --> 00:10:48,347 brought terror into your shower. 265 00:10:48,415 --> 00:10:51,149 - "Psycho" was the first time I was aware of the editing... 266 00:10:51,217 --> 00:10:54,185 [eerie, quickening pulsing] 267 00:10:55,089 --> 00:10:56,688 And how your mind gets tricked, 268 00:10:56,757 --> 00:10:57,889 and what you see off-camera. 269 00:10:57,958 --> 00:11:00,591 - This process of frightening 270 00:11:00,594 --> 00:11:03,328 is done by means 271 00:11:03,397 --> 00:11:05,363 of a given medium: 272 00:11:05,366 --> 00:11:07,566 the medium of pure cinema. 273 00:11:07,634 --> 00:11:09,067 � � 274 00:11:09,135 --> 00:11:11,403 The assembly of pieces of film 275 00:11:11,471 --> 00:11:13,204 to create fright. 276 00:11:13,272 --> 00:11:15,140 [distorted screaming] 277 00:11:15,208 --> 00:11:17,342 - That shower scene is one of the most iconic pieces 278 00:11:17,410 --> 00:11:19,611 of cinema ever to be created, 279 00:11:19,679 --> 00:11:22,413 so much so that it's-- it's burned in people's brains 280 00:11:22,416 --> 00:11:24,081 who haven't even seen the movie. 281 00:11:24,084 --> 00:11:25,817 [screeching string notes] - [gasps] 282 00:11:25,886 --> 00:11:27,919 - People know that Bernard Herrmann's score-- 283 00:11:27,988 --> 00:11:29,854 the... [imitates string notes] You know, 284 00:11:29,857 --> 00:11:32,690 kids grow up, like, doing that with that sound, 285 00:11:32,693 --> 00:11:34,659 not knowing what it's from. 286 00:11:34,695 --> 00:11:37,629 [laughing] Like, talk about having made a cultural impact. 287 00:11:37,697 --> 00:11:40,598 [ominous string music] 288 00:11:40,601 --> 00:11:43,735 - Bernard Herrmann's score to the film was very dramatic, 289 00:11:43,803 --> 00:11:46,605 very--very propulsive. 290 00:11:46,673 --> 00:11:49,407 It's virtually impossible 291 00:11:49,410 --> 00:11:52,076 for a horror composer 292 00:11:52,079 --> 00:11:55,647 not to have to wrestle with the "Psycho" score. 293 00:11:55,715 --> 00:11:57,215 � � 294 00:11:57,283 --> 00:11:59,417 You cannot avoid it. You have to deal with it. 295 00:11:59,420 --> 00:12:01,953 � � 296 00:12:01,955 --> 00:12:05,556 - In 1960, I'm sure people regarded the shower scene 297 00:12:05,559 --> 00:12:08,092 in "Psycho" as having gone too far. 298 00:12:08,095 --> 00:12:10,262 [rustling] 299 00:12:10,330 --> 00:12:13,131 Like, "Alfred Hitchcock's gone too far this time." 300 00:12:13,199 --> 00:12:14,900 But it's indelible, it's-- 301 00:12:14,968 --> 00:12:16,968 they're indelible images, and they're, like, 302 00:12:17,036 --> 00:12:19,404 forever, like, sort of in your brain and, like, 303 00:12:19,472 --> 00:12:23,508 people have bad dreams thinking about those movies. 304 00:12:23,576 --> 00:12:25,810 - John Carpenter, you know, was greatly influenced 305 00:12:25,878 --> 00:12:28,480 by "Psycho," even to the point of casting 306 00:12:28,547 --> 00:12:30,482 Janet Lee's daughter, Jamie Lee Curtis, 307 00:12:30,550 --> 00:12:32,117 in the lead role. 308 00:12:32,185 --> 00:12:37,155 - Ironic that it's the same genre... 309 00:12:37,223 --> 00:12:39,323 same family. 310 00:12:39,326 --> 00:12:42,627 Obviously, it was the biggest... 311 00:12:42,695 --> 00:12:44,996 thing in her life, 312 00:12:45,064 --> 00:12:47,665 as I know that "Halloween" is mine. 313 00:12:47,734 --> 00:12:50,402 So when I jokingly say to you, 314 00:12:50,470 --> 00:12:53,805 "'Halloween' Actress Dies"... 315 00:12:53,873 --> 00:12:55,339 that's what it will say. 316 00:12:55,342 --> 00:12:58,109 Nothing else. 317 00:12:58,177 --> 00:13:01,179 Just like my mom. "'Psycho' Actress Dies." 318 00:13:01,247 --> 00:13:03,148 [eerie music] 319 00:13:03,216 --> 00:13:05,484 - Because of Hitchcock, 320 00:13:05,552 --> 00:13:10,288 people will accept cinema first in a thriller... 321 00:13:10,357 --> 00:13:13,624 in a way they won't accept it in a love story, 322 00:13:13,627 --> 00:13:16,494 in a way they won't accept it in a period drama, 323 00:13:16,563 --> 00:13:18,830 in a way they won't accept it in almost-- 324 00:13:18,899 --> 00:13:21,633 most every other genre, 325 00:13:21,701 --> 00:13:24,135 because Hitchcock taught people 326 00:13:24,203 --> 00:13:26,171 to be thinking of cinema first. 327 00:13:26,239 --> 00:13:28,806 We're just naturally okay 328 00:13:28,809 --> 00:13:31,876 with the camera taking off and doing things. 329 00:13:31,944 --> 00:13:35,180 [eerie string music] 330 00:13:35,248 --> 00:13:36,814 - I think it's fair to say that "Psycho" 331 00:13:36,817 --> 00:13:38,149 was a turning point... 332 00:13:38,217 --> 00:13:40,018 [screeching string notes] 333 00:13:40,086 --> 00:13:41,886 Certainly in American filmmaking-- 334 00:13:41,954 --> 00:13:43,655 and in Hollywood filmmaking, 335 00:13:43,723 --> 00:13:45,923 because there was no one more establishment 336 00:13:45,926 --> 00:13:47,759 than Alfred Hitchcock. 337 00:13:47,827 --> 00:13:50,662 [dark string music] 338 00:13:50,730 --> 00:13:52,330 And there was no turning back. 339 00:13:52,399 --> 00:13:54,766 There was no turning back. 340 00:13:54,834 --> 00:13:58,169 narrator: "Psycho" influenced every horror film to come, 341 00:13:58,237 --> 00:14:00,171 and it paved the way for a new kind 342 00:14:00,239 --> 00:14:01,873 of movie monster... - [screaming] 343 00:14:01,941 --> 00:14:03,308 narrator: The chainsaw-wielding 344 00:14:03,376 --> 00:14:05,343 serial killer. [chainsaw whirring] 345 00:14:10,483 --> 00:14:12,150 [chainsaw revving] 346 00:14:12,218 --> 00:14:15,787 [chainsaws whirring] 347 00:14:15,855 --> 00:14:17,455 [woman screaming] 348 00:14:17,523 --> 00:14:19,224 - If you think about the landmarks 349 00:14:19,292 --> 00:14:20,624 "Psycho" and "Halloween," 350 00:14:20,627 --> 00:14:22,160 clearly the bridge between the two 351 00:14:22,228 --> 00:14:23,928 is Tobe Hooper's "The Texas Chainsaw Massacre." 352 00:14:23,996 --> 00:14:25,563 - Yeah. - [hollering] 353 00:14:25,566 --> 00:14:28,299 - [screaming] 354 00:14:28,368 --> 00:14:30,101 - Out of every movie that we've talked about, 355 00:14:30,103 --> 00:14:32,370 that's the one that defined me. 356 00:14:32,439 --> 00:14:34,305 Like, that's everything I wanted in a movie 357 00:14:34,374 --> 00:14:36,241 and everything I ever wanted to do in movies. 358 00:14:36,276 --> 00:14:38,243 It was just disgusting and nasty, 359 00:14:38,311 --> 00:14:41,145 and that redneck thing... 360 00:14:41,213 --> 00:14:42,580 - Relentless. - That movie just changed 361 00:14:42,649 --> 00:14:43,982 the way I thought about movies. 362 00:14:44,050 --> 00:14:45,317 - Yeah. - Instantly. 363 00:14:45,385 --> 00:14:47,018 [chainsaw revving] 364 00:14:47,086 --> 00:14:48,753 [girls screaming] 365 00:14:48,821 --> 00:14:50,588 - We decided to re-watch "Texas Chainsaw Massacre," 366 00:14:50,591 --> 00:14:52,991 like, a month ago. I watched it eight times. 367 00:14:53,059 --> 00:14:55,460 - [shrieking] 368 00:14:55,528 --> 00:14:57,328 - "Texas Chainsaw Massacre" is one of the most 369 00:14:57,331 --> 00:15:01,032 important movies, to me, of all horror films. 370 00:15:01,100 --> 00:15:04,269 - You walk into a movie called "Texas Chainsaw Massacre," 371 00:15:04,337 --> 00:15:07,005 and you expect the worst. 372 00:15:07,073 --> 00:15:08,306 And you get it. 373 00:15:08,374 --> 00:15:11,009 [woman screaming] 374 00:15:11,077 --> 00:15:14,011 [menacing music] 375 00:15:14,014 --> 00:15:17,015 [slurping, woman screaming] 376 00:15:17,083 --> 00:15:20,684 � � 377 00:15:20,687 --> 00:15:23,755 It was incredibly potent and visceral... 378 00:15:23,823 --> 00:15:25,456 - [sucking] 379 00:15:25,524 --> 00:15:27,692 - There was an imagination-- a dark imagination-- 380 00:15:27,760 --> 00:15:29,493 that had no limits. 381 00:15:29,496 --> 00:15:32,564 [male narrator reading somberly] 382 00:15:35,369 --> 00:15:37,635 - [laughs] It just starts with that great, 383 00:15:37,638 --> 00:15:41,306 like, dreadful, somber narration 384 00:15:41,374 --> 00:15:42,907 at the beginning of the story. 385 00:15:42,975 --> 00:15:45,977 [narrator reading somberly] 386 00:15:52,786 --> 00:15:54,419 - So right off the bat, you're thinking, "Wow, 387 00:15:54,487 --> 00:15:56,020 is this based on a true story?" 388 00:15:56,088 --> 00:15:58,957 And then they flash this date... 389 00:15:58,992 --> 00:16:01,893 - It really feels like you were dropped 390 00:16:01,961 --> 00:16:05,330 into, uh, watching something happen for real. 391 00:16:05,398 --> 00:16:07,765 - This heat is just driving me crazy, 392 00:16:07,833 --> 00:16:09,667 I don't know if I can take much more. 393 00:16:09,670 --> 00:16:11,502 - Listen, the condition... - "Texas Chainsaw Massacre" 394 00:16:11,570 --> 00:16:13,071 was the first one where I thought 395 00:16:13,139 --> 00:16:14,339 they were real people. - Yeah. 396 00:16:14,407 --> 00:16:16,674 - I never looked at them as actors. 397 00:16:16,743 --> 00:16:18,342 - [laughing] 398 00:16:18,345 --> 00:16:20,578 - You don't see any on-screen violence. 399 00:16:20,646 --> 00:16:22,347 It's all implied. - The hook...puts her 400 00:16:22,415 --> 00:16:24,015 hanging on the meat hook. - When he picks her up, 401 00:16:24,083 --> 00:16:26,217 and he's holding her over the hook... 402 00:16:26,286 --> 00:16:28,753 - [shrieks] [musical sting] 403 00:16:28,821 --> 00:16:30,054 - And you came out of that movie 404 00:16:30,122 --> 00:16:31,756 certain that you remembered, 405 00:16:31,824 --> 00:16:33,791 "Oh, yeah, remember, you see the hook go through her." 406 00:16:33,859 --> 00:16:35,693 But your mind just put it all together. 407 00:16:35,696 --> 00:16:38,196 - Stop. [chainsaw revving] 408 00:16:38,264 --> 00:16:40,965 [screaming] 409 00:16:41,033 --> 00:16:43,435 - "Texas Chainsaw" is inspired 410 00:16:43,503 --> 00:16:46,770 by the Ed Gein story from, uh, Wisconsin. 411 00:16:46,773 --> 00:16:48,739 [dark music] 412 00:16:48,742 --> 00:16:50,408 female reporter: It was a crime that shocked 413 00:16:50,476 --> 00:16:52,376 the small town of Plainfield, Wisconsin. 414 00:16:52,379 --> 00:16:54,045 [projector clicks and whirs] 415 00:16:54,113 --> 00:16:55,813 Edward Gein, accused of killing a woman, 416 00:16:55,881 --> 00:16:59,717 then gutting her body like a slaughtered deer. 417 00:16:59,720 --> 00:17:03,021 - Tobe told me that he-- when he was a kid, 418 00:17:03,056 --> 00:17:06,157 they would tell him the story of this guy, Ed Gein. 419 00:17:06,225 --> 00:17:08,459 reporter: He would use those body parts and bones 420 00:17:08,528 --> 00:17:10,728 to make lamp shades and other furniture. 421 00:17:10,796 --> 00:17:13,998 He would also wear dead female body parts. 422 00:17:14,001 --> 00:17:15,967 � � 423 00:17:16,035 --> 00:17:18,403 - And so they used to use Ed Gein 424 00:17:18,471 --> 00:17:20,004 as a cautionary tale. 425 00:17:20,007 --> 00:17:22,340 "Don't be bad, or Ed Gein will come for you." 426 00:17:22,408 --> 00:17:26,477 � � 427 00:17:26,546 --> 00:17:29,313 - Someone once said before Tobe Hooper, 428 00:17:29,381 --> 00:17:33,617 there had been plenty of films about psychopaths, 429 00:17:33,620 --> 00:17:35,486 but when you saw "Texas Chainsaw Massacre," 430 00:17:35,489 --> 00:17:37,455 it was the first time you saw a film that seemed 431 00:17:37,523 --> 00:17:39,891 like it had been directed by a psychopath. 432 00:17:39,959 --> 00:17:42,927 - Tobe, he had a sweetness to him. 433 00:17:42,995 --> 00:17:46,364 At the same time, he would try to rip your head off 434 00:17:46,432 --> 00:17:49,100 if you--if you even messed with a frame of his movie. 435 00:17:49,169 --> 00:17:51,002 - If you'll pardon my French, they didn't give a [bleep] 436 00:17:51,070 --> 00:17:52,303 about what people thought 437 00:17:52,372 --> 00:17:54,438 about the movie they were making. 438 00:17:54,441 --> 00:17:56,975 [sinister music] 439 00:17:57,043 --> 00:17:58,776 The conditions of making that movie 440 00:17:58,845 --> 00:17:59,877 were so primitive. 441 00:17:59,945 --> 00:18:01,913 I mean, these guys, 442 00:18:01,981 --> 00:18:05,649 they borrowed 16-millimeter Aeroflex cameras 443 00:18:05,652 --> 00:18:07,452 from the University of Texas 444 00:18:07,520 --> 00:18:09,720 under the hottest, worst conditions. 445 00:18:09,789 --> 00:18:11,989 It was like 120 degrees, 446 00:18:12,058 --> 00:18:14,559 and they were like, "Let's go out there 447 00:18:14,627 --> 00:18:16,627 and stir it up." 448 00:18:16,630 --> 00:18:19,664 - It was not a pleasant experience for anyone, 449 00:18:19,732 --> 00:18:21,332 and it's reflected in the film. 450 00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:25,669 - [screaming] 451 00:18:25,672 --> 00:18:27,539 - I don't think Tobe Hooper set out 452 00:18:27,607 --> 00:18:31,810 to make a movie about Vietnam, but he could not help 453 00:18:31,878 --> 00:18:34,712 but reflect the rebellion that was going on. 454 00:18:34,780 --> 00:18:36,347 male reporter: Subsequent investigation... 455 00:18:36,349 --> 00:18:37,816 - The times were political, 456 00:18:37,884 --> 00:18:40,484 and the times were, you--you know, 457 00:18:40,487 --> 00:18:42,886 steeped in Vietnam. 458 00:18:42,889 --> 00:18:45,556 - Hit her, Grandpa! - [screaming] 459 00:18:45,559 --> 00:18:47,691 [wailing] 460 00:18:47,694 --> 00:18:49,294 - "The Texas Chainsaw Massacre" 461 00:18:49,362 --> 00:18:52,029 is a very American story, 462 00:18:52,098 --> 00:18:55,300 and--and in some ways, uh, a capitalistic story. 463 00:18:55,368 --> 00:18:57,035 - The place where they shoot the cattle in the head 464 00:18:57,103 --> 00:18:58,470 with that big air gun thing. 465 00:18:58,538 --> 00:19:01,005 - Oh, that--that gun's no good. 466 00:19:01,073 --> 00:19:03,074 - I was in there once with my uncle... 467 00:19:03,142 --> 00:19:04,709 - What "Texas Chainsaw Massacre" 468 00:19:04,777 --> 00:19:06,611 is really about 469 00:19:06,679 --> 00:19:09,380 is a family of dispossessed workers. 470 00:19:09,448 --> 00:19:11,082 - With a sledge. [laughing] 471 00:19:11,150 --> 00:19:12,884 See, that was better. 472 00:19:12,951 --> 00:19:14,352 They died better that way. 473 00:19:14,420 --> 00:19:17,388 - Because of automation and loss of jobs, 474 00:19:17,456 --> 00:19:19,924 they no longer have the means, you know, 475 00:19:19,992 --> 00:19:21,926 to earn th--a living for themselves. 476 00:19:21,994 --> 00:19:25,597 - [stuttering] With the new way, people put out of jobs. 477 00:19:25,665 --> 00:19:28,065 - The oppressed working class 478 00:19:28,134 --> 00:19:30,935 turn the tools of their trade 479 00:19:31,004 --> 00:19:33,171 back upon their former employers-- 480 00:19:33,206 --> 00:19:35,940 the chainsaw, the hammer, and so on-- 481 00:19:36,008 --> 00:19:39,277 but it's also tied in with psychic repression, 482 00:19:39,345 --> 00:19:41,613 because, like, people love the meat on their plate 483 00:19:41,681 --> 00:19:44,282 but don't want to think about how it gets made. 484 00:19:44,350 --> 00:19:47,218 And by substituting the teenagers for the cattle 485 00:19:47,287 --> 00:19:49,753 and the former dispossessed workers 486 00:19:49,756 --> 00:19:51,623 enacting revenge against them, 487 00:19:51,691 --> 00:19:54,692 it's a kind of un-repression both of meat itself 488 00:19:54,761 --> 00:19:56,894 and of working-class labor. 489 00:19:56,963 --> 00:19:57,995 [chainsaw revving] 490 00:19:57,998 --> 00:20:00,898 - [hollering] 491 00:20:00,967 --> 00:20:02,400 - And Tobe called that movie 492 00:20:02,468 --> 00:20:06,137 "a $60,000 flare" he shot up from Austin. 493 00:20:06,205 --> 00:20:08,039 And I mean, it's in the Museum of Modern Art now. 494 00:20:08,107 --> 00:20:10,575 It's a classic, but it's unmatched after that. 495 00:20:10,643 --> 00:20:13,911 I mean, that ratchets up horror to a whole other level. 496 00:20:13,914 --> 00:20:16,246 [chainsaw whirring] 497 00:20:16,249 --> 00:20:18,816 narrator: "Texas Chainsaw," "Halloween," and "Psycho" 498 00:20:18,884 --> 00:20:21,085 opened the gates for a new kind of horror. 499 00:20:21,153 --> 00:20:22,920 ["Friday the 13th" theme plays] 500 00:20:22,989 --> 00:20:25,756 But the slasher film as we know it was truly born 501 00:20:25,824 --> 00:20:27,992 with the most successful horror franchise 502 00:20:28,060 --> 00:20:29,493 of all time... 503 00:20:29,561 --> 00:20:31,262 [sharp string music] 504 00:20:31,331 --> 00:20:32,930 "Friday the 13th." 505 00:20:38,536 --> 00:20:40,871 narrator: When you think of "Friday the 13th," 506 00:20:40,874 --> 00:20:42,139 you think of dead teenagers... 507 00:20:42,208 --> 00:20:44,342 - [screaming] - [shrieking] 508 00:20:44,410 --> 00:20:46,844 narrator: And the unstoppable Jason Voorhees. 509 00:20:46,912 --> 00:20:48,612 [sinister musical sting] 510 00:20:48,615 --> 00:20:50,481 - Growing up when I did, we all watched 511 00:20:50,550 --> 00:20:53,351 "Friday the 13th"... one, two, three, four, 512 00:20:53,419 --> 00:20:55,253 five, six, seven. 513 00:20:55,288 --> 00:20:56,721 Eight was horrible. 514 00:20:56,789 --> 00:20:57,822 [whirring] 515 00:20:57,890 --> 00:20:59,957 - [screaming] 516 00:20:59,960 --> 00:21:01,659 - But in terms of character names... 517 00:21:01,727 --> 00:21:03,894 [darkly] Jason Voorhees. 518 00:21:03,963 --> 00:21:06,030 It--it was just evil. 519 00:21:06,098 --> 00:21:08,766 � � 520 00:21:08,835 --> 00:21:12,503 - I believe that I have murdered 521 00:21:12,572 --> 00:21:16,373 more people on film than any actor in history. 522 00:21:16,376 --> 00:21:21,578 I played Jason in four of the "Friday the 13th" films. 523 00:21:21,581 --> 00:21:24,381 There's a lot more to playing a character like Jason 524 00:21:24,384 --> 00:21:27,318 than throwing the mask on and, you know, 525 00:21:27,387 --> 00:21:29,053 walking around threateningly, 526 00:21:29,121 --> 00:21:32,824 because two of the major tools an actor uses 527 00:21:32,892 --> 00:21:35,727 are their facial expressions 528 00:21:35,795 --> 00:21:37,395 and their voice. 529 00:21:37,463 --> 00:21:40,097 So now, you take away both of those 530 00:21:40,165 --> 00:21:42,133 by making him silent 531 00:21:42,201 --> 00:21:44,802 and putting a mask on him. 532 00:21:44,871 --> 00:21:46,404 - [whimpering] 533 00:21:46,472 --> 00:21:47,872 � � 534 00:21:47,940 --> 00:21:49,307 - [screams] 535 00:21:49,342 --> 00:21:51,942 - So I always was conscious 536 00:21:52,011 --> 00:21:55,212 of Jason never looking awkward 537 00:21:55,215 --> 00:21:57,048 or off-balance or weak. 538 00:21:57,116 --> 00:21:59,417 I would never look down to see where I was walking, 539 00:21:59,485 --> 00:22:01,352 because I thought it weakened the character. 540 00:22:04,189 --> 00:22:06,791 My favorite Jason kill-- which was my favorite 541 00:22:06,859 --> 00:22:09,026 all-time kill for a long time-- 542 00:22:09,095 --> 00:22:11,862 was the sleeping bag from "Part VII." 543 00:22:11,930 --> 00:22:16,668 - [screaming] [quickening string music] 544 00:22:16,736 --> 00:22:18,302 � � 545 00:22:18,371 --> 00:22:20,438 - I put my heart and soul into that character 546 00:22:20,506 --> 00:22:22,706 and loved playing it. 547 00:22:22,709 --> 00:22:25,476 - Name the killer in "Friday the 13th." 548 00:22:25,544 --> 00:22:28,046 - [breathing heavily] Jason! Jason! Jason! 549 00:22:28,114 --> 00:22:31,248 - I'm sorry. That's the wrong answer. 550 00:22:31,251 --> 00:22:33,116 [eerie music] 551 00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:35,787 narrator: Jason is synonymous with "Friday the 13th," 552 00:22:35,855 --> 00:22:39,357 but he's barely seen in the original film. 553 00:22:39,392 --> 00:22:42,726 The rest of the formula, though, was in place. 554 00:22:42,729 --> 00:22:44,195 - "Friday the 13th" is a story 555 00:22:44,263 --> 00:22:45,596 about a group of camp counselors 556 00:22:45,664 --> 00:22:47,064 who've come up to set up a camp... 557 00:22:47,133 --> 00:22:49,467 - Well, come on. Let's go. 558 00:22:49,535 --> 00:22:51,134 - I thought we had two weeks. 559 00:22:51,137 --> 00:22:52,970 - And have been sort of targeted 560 00:22:53,038 --> 00:22:54,605 by a mysterious killer. 561 00:22:54,674 --> 00:22:56,674 - No... 562 00:22:56,742 --> 00:22:58,476 [sinister string music] 563 00:22:58,544 --> 00:22:59,676 [breathlessly] No... 564 00:22:59,679 --> 00:23:02,313 [gasping] 565 00:23:02,381 --> 00:23:04,415 � � 566 00:23:04,483 --> 00:23:06,584 - One or two or three of them get picked off, 567 00:23:06,652 --> 00:23:10,154 and you say, "Oh, my goodness, anybody could go at any time." 568 00:23:10,222 --> 00:23:12,690 - [gasps loudly] - Something's wrong with Ned. 569 00:23:12,758 --> 00:23:14,759 - That was, I think, part of the--the secret 570 00:23:14,827 --> 00:23:18,162 to the suspense that we were able to create. 571 00:23:18,230 --> 00:23:20,030 ["Friday the 13th" theme plays] 572 00:23:20,099 --> 00:23:22,433 [indistinct words echoing] - It must be my imagination. 573 00:23:22,501 --> 00:23:24,969 [chuckles] 574 00:23:25,037 --> 00:23:27,004 [gasps, screams] 575 00:23:27,072 --> 00:23:28,973 [jagged violin music] 576 00:23:29,041 --> 00:23:31,108 � � 577 00:23:31,176 --> 00:23:34,112 - We needed somebody that knew a lot more than we did 578 00:23:34,180 --> 00:23:35,846 about how to pull off a special effect. 579 00:23:35,849 --> 00:23:37,448 You wanna stab somebody with a knife. 580 00:23:37,517 --> 00:23:39,016 How do you do it? You can't just get 581 00:23:39,084 --> 00:23:41,118 a rubber knife and-- and start... [laughs] 582 00:23:41,187 --> 00:23:42,620 You know, going at people. 583 00:23:42,688 --> 00:23:43,854 And we were fortunate enough 584 00:23:43,857 --> 00:23:45,689 to run into a guy named Tom Savini, 585 00:23:45,757 --> 00:23:48,726 and he just couldn't wait 586 00:23:48,794 --> 00:23:51,562 to get involved, and he had such wonderful, 587 00:23:51,630 --> 00:23:53,631 positive energy. 588 00:23:55,634 --> 00:23:59,403 - Kevin Bacon was, uh, sitting upright underneath the bed. 589 00:23:59,471 --> 00:24:03,140 His--only his head came through the bed. 590 00:24:03,209 --> 00:24:04,842 - [chokes] 591 00:24:04,911 --> 00:24:06,944 - So I'm actually pushing the arrow through 592 00:24:07,013 --> 00:24:09,213 the fake chest and neck, 593 00:24:09,282 --> 00:24:12,550 and my assistant, uh, was pumping the blood. 594 00:24:12,618 --> 00:24:15,586 Now, while he was pumping the blood, the tubing came off 595 00:24:15,654 --> 00:24:17,688 the blood pump, and during the take, 596 00:24:17,756 --> 00:24:19,857 he grabbed it and blew through it, 597 00:24:19,925 --> 00:24:22,493 which caused the nice gurgling of the blood. 598 00:24:22,561 --> 00:24:25,830 [terrifying violin music] 599 00:24:25,898 --> 00:24:27,998 So it was a happy accident that made the effect, 600 00:24:28,066 --> 00:24:29,766 you know, a l--so much better. 601 00:24:29,769 --> 00:24:32,569 - What makes "Friday the 13th" a classic 602 00:24:32,572 --> 00:24:34,772 is the reveal of Mrs. Voorhees. 603 00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:36,974 [sinister music] - Steve! 604 00:24:37,043 --> 00:24:39,076 [panting] Oh, Steve! 605 00:24:39,144 --> 00:24:42,046 [musical sting] 606 00:24:42,114 --> 00:24:44,048 Who are you? 607 00:24:44,116 --> 00:24:45,916 - Well, I--I'm Mrs. Voorhees, 608 00:24:45,919 --> 00:24:47,885 an old friend of the Christys'. 609 00:24:47,953 --> 00:24:50,554 - Everyone's trying to survive, uh, 610 00:24:50,557 --> 00:24:52,323 as they're being knocked off one by one 611 00:24:52,391 --> 00:24:54,425 by a killer that they don't know, and then you reveal 612 00:24:54,493 --> 00:24:56,460 it's the mother of this drowned boy. 613 00:24:56,463 --> 00:24:59,263 - You see, Jason was my son. 614 00:24:59,332 --> 00:25:04,301 - A mother was driven mad by her child drowning 615 00:25:04,369 --> 00:25:06,937 and seeing the world ignore it and go by 616 00:25:07,006 --> 00:25:08,539 and think that they can just restart 617 00:25:08,607 --> 00:25:10,073 and go on with their lives. 618 00:25:10,076 --> 00:25:12,209 The manifestation of grief is actually 619 00:25:12,212 --> 00:25:15,212 very poetic and relatable. 620 00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:17,481 - [screams] 621 00:25:17,549 --> 00:25:20,083 - We started to hear some of the score 622 00:25:20,086 --> 00:25:22,720 that Harry was writing for the first "Friday the 13th," 623 00:25:22,788 --> 00:25:25,289 and this--this... [imitates echoing sound] 624 00:25:25,358 --> 00:25:27,224 Kept coming up. 625 00:25:27,293 --> 00:25:29,126 ["Friday the 13th" theme plays] 626 00:25:29,194 --> 00:25:30,961 [indistinct words echoing] 627 00:25:31,030 --> 00:25:35,299 - You remember a scene at the very end, uh... 628 00:25:35,368 --> 00:25:39,770 where Mrs. Voorhees--uh, Betsy Palmer, rest her soul. 629 00:25:39,838 --> 00:25:42,906 Dear Betsy. We hear, uh, her son go... 630 00:25:42,909 --> 00:25:44,775 - "Kill her, Mommy. 631 00:25:44,844 --> 00:25:46,243 Kill her." 632 00:25:46,246 --> 00:25:48,645 - And that's what kicked it off for me. 633 00:25:48,648 --> 00:25:52,316 I went, "She hears voices in her head." 634 00:25:52,384 --> 00:25:54,385 I went up to a microphone and went, 635 00:25:54,453 --> 00:25:55,987 "K...ma..." 636 00:25:56,055 --> 00:25:57,688 And then it came out... 637 00:25:57,756 --> 00:25:59,523 [imitating echoing] Kih...mah... 638 00:25:59,591 --> 00:26:02,459 And it literally became the signature 639 00:26:02,528 --> 00:26:05,328 of that series, the sound that-- 640 00:26:05,331 --> 00:26:07,131 what they call "the Jason sound." 641 00:26:07,199 --> 00:26:10,200 - [whimpering] - Look what you did to him! 642 00:26:10,269 --> 00:26:12,636 - [whimpers] 643 00:26:12,704 --> 00:26:14,939 - [screaming] - [yelps] 644 00:26:16,575 --> 00:26:18,375 [grunts] 645 00:26:18,443 --> 00:26:20,377 - I remember thinking the movie was over. 646 00:26:20,445 --> 00:26:22,112 You remember, she was on the lake. 647 00:26:22,180 --> 00:26:23,681 And I thought the m-- I legitimately was like, 648 00:26:23,749 --> 00:26:25,149 "Aw, the movie's over. 649 00:26:25,217 --> 00:26:27,451 [exhales] She's at the boat." 650 00:26:27,519 --> 00:26:30,287 - [growling] [shrill violin music] 651 00:26:30,290 --> 00:26:32,156 - [screaming] 652 00:26:32,224 --> 00:26:35,192 - He jumped out that water. I lost it. 653 00:26:35,260 --> 00:26:37,294 I don't even know how I fell for that. 654 00:26:37,363 --> 00:26:38,829 To this day... 655 00:26:38,898 --> 00:26:41,332 was the loudest I ever screamed in my life. 656 00:26:41,399 --> 00:26:44,001 - The boy, Jason. 657 00:26:45,638 --> 00:26:46,804 - Jason? 658 00:26:46,872 --> 00:26:47,972 - Nobody knew that was 659 00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:49,974 going to become a franchise, 660 00:26:50,042 --> 00:26:52,409 but it was certainly easy to replicate. 661 00:26:52,477 --> 00:26:55,012 [screeching string music] 662 00:26:55,947 --> 00:26:57,748 [dark music] 663 00:26:57,816 --> 00:27:01,218 - The--my biggest regret is putting the bag over his head. 664 00:27:01,286 --> 00:27:04,187 - [screaming] 665 00:27:04,190 --> 00:27:06,156 - So then, doing "Part III," 666 00:27:06,224 --> 00:27:09,593 this guy we had hired as a--as a 3-D expert 667 00:27:09,661 --> 00:27:10,994 was also a hockey player. 668 00:27:10,997 --> 00:27:12,330 And I was trying to figure out-- 669 00:27:12,398 --> 00:27:13,530 you know, I wasn't gonna do the bag again. 670 00:27:13,533 --> 00:27:14,899 "What are we gonna do?" 671 00:27:14,967 --> 00:27:16,600 And one day, he walked into my office 672 00:27:16,603 --> 00:27:19,804 with a goalie mask and said, "How about this?" 673 00:27:19,872 --> 00:27:21,772 [sinister music] 674 00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:23,674 - [screaming] 675 00:27:23,743 --> 00:27:24,875 - It was perfect. 676 00:27:24,877 --> 00:27:26,077 It was, immediately-- 677 00:27:26,145 --> 00:27:27,410 that was gonna be great. 678 00:27:27,413 --> 00:27:29,880 - [growling] - [screaming] 679 00:27:29,948 --> 00:27:32,549 � � 680 00:27:32,618 --> 00:27:34,618 - I don't understand how, in the first one, 681 00:27:34,621 --> 00:27:36,854 he's like an 11-year-old who jumps out of the lake, 682 00:27:36,922 --> 00:27:38,956 and then he's built like a-- 683 00:27:39,024 --> 00:27:40,457 a WCW wrestler. 684 00:27:40,525 --> 00:27:42,026 - [screaming, whimpering] 685 00:27:42,094 --> 00:27:43,894 - I don't understand what happened 686 00:27:43,962 --> 00:27:45,428 where he suddenly got all jacked. 687 00:27:45,431 --> 00:27:47,064 - [screaming] 688 00:27:47,132 --> 00:27:48,431 [metal crinkling] 689 00:27:48,434 --> 00:27:49,800 - You know, after the first movies 690 00:27:49,868 --> 00:27:51,434 and the subsequent sequels became, 691 00:27:51,437 --> 00:27:53,704 "Who are these, you know, awful kids 692 00:27:53,773 --> 00:27:55,305 "that we sort of hate and we can't wait 693 00:27:55,308 --> 00:27:56,740 for Jason to take them out?" 694 00:27:56,808 --> 00:27:59,543 [dramatic riffing music] 695 00:27:59,611 --> 00:28:01,045 - [screaming] 696 00:28:01,113 --> 00:28:03,781 � � 697 00:28:03,849 --> 00:28:05,583 - [screaming] 698 00:28:05,651 --> 00:28:08,919 - I've always thought that the slasher films of the 1980s 699 00:28:08,921 --> 00:28:10,587 didn't really work as horror fiction. 700 00:28:10,656 --> 00:28:13,090 But they worked pretty well as slapstick comedies... 701 00:28:14,660 --> 00:28:16,593 [jarring music] - [strangled cry] 702 00:28:16,662 --> 00:28:18,796 - And the reason for that is, you know, 703 00:28:18,864 --> 00:28:21,165 the characters are never allowed to be anything 704 00:28:21,233 --> 00:28:23,000 except one-dimensional types. 705 00:28:23,068 --> 00:28:24,735 You've got a gang of teenagers. 706 00:28:24,803 --> 00:28:26,637 You've got the jock. You've got the stoner. 707 00:28:26,705 --> 00:28:28,806 You've got the slut. You've got the virgin. 708 00:28:28,874 --> 00:28:30,274 You never care about them, 709 00:28:30,342 --> 00:28:31,809 you never fall in love with them, 710 00:28:31,877 --> 00:28:33,577 and so when the serial killer starts 711 00:28:33,646 --> 00:28:36,746 knocking them off one by one... 712 00:28:36,749 --> 00:28:40,150 You laugh instead of recoil in horror, 713 00:28:40,153 --> 00:28:43,087 because he's actually more of a personality than they are. 714 00:28:43,155 --> 00:28:46,423 [sinister music] 715 00:28:46,426 --> 00:28:48,492 - [gasps] - With the success 716 00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:50,026 of "Friday the 13th" and the success 717 00:28:50,029 --> 00:28:52,496 of "Halloween," people just were-- 718 00:28:52,564 --> 00:28:55,365 producers were ravenous to find material 719 00:28:55,368 --> 00:28:58,935 and knowing that, "Oh, well this is the formula." 720 00:28:58,938 --> 00:29:01,705 [both gasp] [haunting organ chord] 721 00:29:01,773 --> 00:29:03,874 - One of the by-products of-- of the success 722 00:29:03,942 --> 00:29:06,577 of "Friday the 13th" and a few other movies 723 00:29:06,645 --> 00:29:09,480 was that people on the outside are looking in, saying, 724 00:29:09,547 --> 00:29:11,482 "Oh, they killed ten people 725 00:29:11,549 --> 00:29:12,883 "and they made a lot of money. 726 00:29:12,951 --> 00:29:14,785 "We'll kill 20 people, 727 00:29:14,853 --> 00:29:17,855 and we'll make a lot more than that." 728 00:29:17,923 --> 00:29:19,390 [shattering] 729 00:29:21,394 --> 00:29:22,960 narrator: By the early '80s, 730 00:29:23,028 --> 00:29:24,694 slasher movies glutted the market. 731 00:29:24,697 --> 00:29:26,330 Audiences loved them, 732 00:29:26,398 --> 00:29:28,865 but they also inspired outright hatred. 733 00:29:28,868 --> 00:29:30,501 - [shrieking] 734 00:29:30,569 --> 00:29:32,470 narrator: Where some saw harmless entertainment, 735 00:29:32,538 --> 00:29:34,304 others saw a threat to society. 736 00:29:34,307 --> 00:29:35,439 [both screaming] 737 00:29:39,944 --> 00:29:41,678 - Come on, baby. 738 00:29:41,681 --> 00:29:43,546 Light my fire. 739 00:29:43,549 --> 00:29:45,349 [rock 'n' roll playing] - You bet I will. 740 00:29:45,417 --> 00:29:47,651 - [laughing] 741 00:29:48,353 --> 00:29:50,187 - I gotta tell you something, 742 00:29:50,255 --> 00:29:53,123 the worst horror movie I ever saw was [bleep] great, okay? 743 00:29:53,191 --> 00:29:54,891 - Yeah, that's true. - That's the way that I am, 744 00:29:54,894 --> 00:29:56,593 because I go in there and I say, 745 00:29:56,661 --> 00:29:58,496 "What am I gonna see? I don't know." 746 00:29:58,564 --> 00:30:01,165 A movie that's PG-13 747 00:30:01,233 --> 00:30:02,699 that's a horror movie, 748 00:30:02,768 --> 00:30:04,901 it's gotta be scary in some way 749 00:30:04,904 --> 00:30:06,603 that's really artistic. 750 00:30:06,671 --> 00:30:08,438 [faint echoing scream] 751 00:30:08,507 --> 00:30:09,439 - [gasps] 752 00:30:09,507 --> 00:30:11,108 [eerie music] 753 00:30:11,144 --> 00:30:13,911 Once you get to R and once you get to Unrated, 754 00:30:13,979 --> 00:30:15,946 you're saying, "I don't know what I'm gonna see." 755 00:30:16,014 --> 00:30:18,882 I got one word for you: "Maniac." 756 00:30:18,950 --> 00:30:21,852 [quiet, sinister music] 757 00:30:21,921 --> 00:30:24,721 � � 758 00:30:24,790 --> 00:30:26,791 - "Maniac" is one of my favorite movies, 759 00:30:26,859 --> 00:30:28,458 and I had a feeling you'd like it, which is why... 760 00:30:28,527 --> 00:30:29,726 - "Maniac"--oh, of course. - As a gift for you, 761 00:30:29,729 --> 00:30:31,094 I brought you a "Maniaction" figure. 762 00:30:31,130 --> 00:30:32,462 - Holy [bleep]! 763 00:30:32,531 --> 00:30:33,931 We did not rehearse this, folks. 764 00:30:33,999 --> 00:30:35,799 Look! - [laughing] 765 00:30:35,867 --> 00:30:37,167 A "Maniaction" figure. 766 00:30:37,235 --> 00:30:39,203 - I'm so excited, I almost dropped it! 767 00:30:39,271 --> 00:30:41,472 It's a "Maniac" bloody scalp. 768 00:30:41,540 --> 00:30:43,674 - It's--isn't that sweet? - Yeah, it really is. 769 00:30:43,742 --> 00:30:45,608 I mean, I don't know how to thank you for that. 770 00:30:45,611 --> 00:30:47,177 [woman screaming] 771 00:30:47,245 --> 00:30:49,780 - [whimpering] 772 00:30:51,517 --> 00:30:54,017 - "Maniac" is about a guy named Frank Zito 773 00:30:54,020 --> 00:30:56,954 who's a very... ah, oddball character 774 00:30:57,022 --> 00:30:59,590 who stalks young women. 775 00:30:59,657 --> 00:31:02,560 And he scalps them and he takes their scalps home 776 00:31:02,628 --> 00:31:04,295 and he puts them on these mannequins. 777 00:31:04,363 --> 00:31:06,029 And it is here he sort of struggles 778 00:31:06,032 --> 00:31:09,632 with this relationship he had with his mother. 779 00:31:09,635 --> 00:31:12,369 - I will never... 780 00:31:12,437 --> 00:31:14,704 [dark music] 781 00:31:14,707 --> 00:31:18,175 let them take you away from me. 782 00:31:18,244 --> 00:31:20,845 - It's a very minimalist look at what happens 783 00:31:20,913 --> 00:31:22,178 inside the mind of a serial killer. 784 00:31:22,181 --> 00:31:24,781 - You bitch! - What... 785 00:31:24,850 --> 00:31:26,716 - [grunts] 786 00:31:26,719 --> 00:31:29,119 - What're you...doing... - [grunts] 787 00:31:29,187 --> 00:31:30,520 - [gagging] 788 00:31:30,589 --> 00:31:31,855 Stop it! 789 00:31:31,923 --> 00:31:34,124 What are you doing? 790 00:31:34,192 --> 00:31:37,060 - I mean, the original "Maniac" is mean, 791 00:31:37,129 --> 00:31:41,265 but it's actually really powerful and, 792 00:31:41,333 --> 00:31:43,367 thanks to Joe Spinell's performance, 793 00:31:43,435 --> 00:31:45,502 kind of emotional. 794 00:31:45,504 --> 00:31:50,173 - [sobbing quietly] Why'd you make me do that? 795 00:31:50,241 --> 00:31:53,677 [sniffles] I didn't wanna do it. 796 00:31:53,746 --> 00:31:56,846 - It really, like, went too far. 797 00:31:56,849 --> 00:31:58,882 You know, watching that movie, you really felt like 798 00:31:58,885 --> 00:32:01,485 the killing scenes were really protracted 799 00:32:01,553 --> 00:32:03,487 and really brutal and really grim. 800 00:32:03,555 --> 00:32:05,289 [quickening violin music] 801 00:32:05,357 --> 00:32:07,524 - When that movie came out, it was so controversial 802 00:32:07,592 --> 00:32:09,493 You know, a lot of women were protesting it 803 00:32:09,561 --> 00:32:11,562 because this idea that it was misogynistic, of course. 804 00:32:11,630 --> 00:32:14,632 You know, it's like all these movies get this label 805 00:32:14,700 --> 00:32:17,234 of being misogynistic because the victims 806 00:32:17,302 --> 00:32:18,368 are primarily women. 807 00:32:18,371 --> 00:32:20,504 - ...again. - [moans] 808 00:32:20,572 --> 00:32:22,606 - I don't feel like the film's misogynistic at all. 809 00:32:22,674 --> 00:32:24,774 As a matter of fact, I feel, as a woman, 810 00:32:24,777 --> 00:32:27,777 it really represents a realism to me. 811 00:32:27,780 --> 00:32:28,913 It's--it's--it's like 812 00:32:28,981 --> 00:32:30,514 a cathartic experience in a way, 813 00:32:30,582 --> 00:32:33,684 because women live in that sort of world every day, 814 00:32:33,751 --> 00:32:35,185 where we have to be hyperaware 815 00:32:35,187 --> 00:32:37,120 of who's around us and what could happen. 816 00:32:37,189 --> 00:32:38,855 [eerie music] 817 00:32:38,924 --> 00:32:40,658 narrator: "Maniac" ends with a group of women 818 00:32:40,726 --> 00:32:42,726 taking brutal revenge on the killer. 819 00:32:42,794 --> 00:32:44,928 - [moaning in fear] - And this... 820 00:32:44,931 --> 00:32:47,730 narrator: Today, many horror fans and film scholars 821 00:32:47,733 --> 00:32:50,000 consider it a classic, but in the '80s, 822 00:32:50,069 --> 00:32:53,036 "Maniac" helped set off a moral panic. 823 00:32:53,104 --> 00:32:54,871 [women shrieking] - [grunts loudly] 824 00:32:54,939 --> 00:32:57,274 - Horror became a-- a dirty word, I think, 825 00:32:57,342 --> 00:32:59,042 in the late '70s, early '80s, 826 00:32:59,110 --> 00:33:01,211 and I think that the reason for that was the-- 827 00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:03,213 the explosion of slasher movies. 828 00:33:03,215 --> 00:33:06,216 [themes overlapping and building] 829 00:33:06,284 --> 00:33:13,256 � � 830 00:33:15,961 --> 00:33:17,728 - A new breed of "shriek merchants" 831 00:33:17,796 --> 00:33:20,097 has exploited the once honorable genre 832 00:33:20,165 --> 00:33:21,732 of the terror film. 833 00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:24,968 - It was a very cheap form of horror entertainment, 834 00:33:24,971 --> 00:33:27,571 and those slasher films got a lot of bad press 835 00:33:27,639 --> 00:33:28,905 for brutalizing women, 836 00:33:28,974 --> 00:33:31,108 for violence, for the gore, 837 00:33:31,176 --> 00:33:33,443 and--and the people making legitimate horror films 838 00:33:33,512 --> 00:33:36,012 were afraid that they were gonna be tainted, uh, 839 00:33:36,015 --> 00:33:39,115 by the legacy of a lot of these slasher knock-offs. 840 00:33:39,118 --> 00:33:40,684 - I think a lot of people have the wrong idea. 841 00:33:40,752 --> 00:33:42,720 They identify these films with earlier thrillers 842 00:33:42,788 --> 00:33:44,521 like "Psycho," or even a more recent film 843 00:33:44,589 --> 00:33:46,289 like "Halloween," which we both like. 844 00:33:46,357 --> 00:33:47,858 These films aren't in the same category. 845 00:33:47,926 --> 00:33:49,960 These films hate women. 846 00:33:50,028 --> 00:33:51,128 - [shrieking] 847 00:33:51,196 --> 00:33:52,596 [flesh squelches, shrieking stops] 848 00:33:52,664 --> 00:33:54,264 - But don't you find that 849 00:33:54,332 --> 00:33:56,833 in a really effective horror movie, 850 00:33:56,901 --> 00:33:58,668 blood stains the critics' eyes? 851 00:33:58,737 --> 00:34:00,470 Like, once you get blood in your eyes... 852 00:34:00,473 --> 00:34:02,305 - Yes, yes. - You can't wash it out. 853 00:34:02,373 --> 00:34:04,274 They can't see anything else... - Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. 854 00:34:04,342 --> 00:34:06,176 - Other than the kill, and they also feel like 855 00:34:06,244 --> 00:34:07,611 if they like the movie, 856 00:34:07,679 --> 00:34:09,479 that they're endorsing that for real-- 857 00:34:09,548 --> 00:34:11,014 or that kind of violence. - Yeah. 858 00:34:11,017 --> 00:34:12,682 - So--so most often, those reviews just become 859 00:34:12,751 --> 00:34:14,418 a soapbox to be like, "Look, I'm a good person. 860 00:34:14,486 --> 00:34:16,153 "I'm a good person. I don't like 861 00:34:16,221 --> 00:34:17,820 this sort of thing," but the truth is, we love it. 862 00:34:17,823 --> 00:34:20,323 It's like it's-- it's the enjoying fantasy, 863 00:34:20,391 --> 00:34:22,092 enjoying a scary story. It's like, it's-- 864 00:34:22,161 --> 00:34:24,895 it's no different from "Grimms' Fairy Tales." 865 00:34:24,963 --> 00:34:27,497 [suspenseful organ music] 866 00:34:27,566 --> 00:34:30,366 - The slasher films celebrate the female character 867 00:34:30,369 --> 00:34:32,169 because they're the final girls. 868 00:34:32,237 --> 00:34:34,738 The people who--who survive the slasher movies 869 00:34:34,806 --> 00:34:36,873 are the final girls, 870 00:34:36,941 --> 00:34:38,875 and that's who you identify with, 871 00:34:38,943 --> 00:34:40,310 and that's the smart one. 872 00:34:40,378 --> 00:34:41,912 The women are the ones who are smart. 873 00:34:41,980 --> 00:34:43,880 It's the sex-crazed guys bringing their girlfriends 874 00:34:43,948 --> 00:34:45,848 to have sex that, you know, get slaughtered. 875 00:34:45,851 --> 00:34:47,785 - [gasps] 876 00:34:47,853 --> 00:34:49,920 - Most of the feminists who were against horror 877 00:34:49,988 --> 00:34:52,389 were not really watching these films 878 00:34:52,458 --> 00:34:54,124 or analyzing them, you know? 879 00:34:54,193 --> 00:34:56,126 They were just sort of, like, "Pornography is bad. 880 00:34:56,195 --> 00:34:57,660 Horror films are bad." You know? 881 00:34:57,663 --> 00:34:59,529 So they weren't actually engaging with the genre. 882 00:34:59,598 --> 00:35:01,998 - These women in danger films all really boil down 883 00:35:02,001 --> 00:35:03,867 to just one same image, 884 00:35:03,936 --> 00:35:05,469 one disturbing image: 885 00:35:05,537 --> 00:35:08,205 a woman screaming in abject terror. 886 00:35:08,273 --> 00:35:09,739 - Usually it's the people who don't actually 887 00:35:09,775 --> 00:35:11,341 know anything about the topic 888 00:35:11,343 --> 00:35:13,043 that are the loudest complainers about it. 889 00:35:13,111 --> 00:35:15,178 - And unfortunately, the audiences that go to them 890 00:35:15,246 --> 00:35:16,880 don't seem to like women too much, either. 891 00:35:16,948 --> 00:35:18,816 - In the '80s, "The New York Times" conducted, 892 00:35:18,884 --> 00:35:21,351 um, a poll with theatergoers 893 00:35:21,353 --> 00:35:23,587 to find out who was seeing these slasher films, 894 00:35:23,655 --> 00:35:25,956 and they found out that 45% of the audience 895 00:35:26,024 --> 00:35:27,891 was made up of adolescents. 896 00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:30,693 55% of that audience was women. 897 00:35:30,696 --> 00:35:32,695 [women screaming, wailing] - [gagged screaming] 898 00:35:32,698 --> 00:35:34,798 narrator: "Maniac," its slasher cousins, 899 00:35:34,866 --> 00:35:36,399 and the Reagan assassination attempt... 900 00:35:36,467 --> 00:35:38,235 [gunshots] 901 00:35:38,303 --> 00:35:39,736 Triggered a crackdown 902 00:35:39,804 --> 00:35:41,104 on realistic violence and gore. 903 00:35:41,107 --> 00:35:43,039 - [screaming] - By 1984, 904 00:35:43,108 --> 00:35:45,942 the golden age of slasher films was over, 905 00:35:46,010 --> 00:35:48,311 but audiences still wanted their scares. 906 00:35:48,314 --> 00:35:50,446 - [shrieks] - So film makers created 907 00:35:50,449 --> 00:35:52,182 a new kind of monster. 908 00:35:52,251 --> 00:35:53,984 [sinister music] 909 00:35:57,588 --> 00:35:59,856 - Okay, show her. - [gasps] 910 00:36:01,694 --> 00:36:04,427 Well, is it a Good Guy or not? 911 00:36:04,495 --> 00:36:06,396 - It is. It is! 912 00:36:06,464 --> 00:36:08,064 Wow. - A Good Guy! 913 00:36:08,067 --> 00:36:09,833 - One of the first experiences of horror 914 00:36:09,902 --> 00:36:12,969 was, uh, "Child's Play." 915 00:36:13,038 --> 00:36:15,005 - Hi, I'm Chucky, 916 00:36:15,073 --> 00:36:16,606 and I'm your friend to the end. 917 00:36:16,609 --> 00:36:18,608 Hi-de-ho! [laughs] 918 00:36:18,611 --> 00:36:19,910 - [giggling] - When I first saw that, 919 00:36:19,978 --> 00:36:21,377 I was about four-- 920 00:36:21,380 --> 00:36:22,779 four or five. 921 00:36:22,848 --> 00:36:24,747 So it was just this little doll and it was cute 922 00:36:24,750 --> 00:36:27,484 and then all of the sudden, it just came alive. 923 00:36:27,552 --> 00:36:28,985 And it's--it's always those moments 924 00:36:29,053 --> 00:36:30,887 where the camera is moving... 925 00:36:30,890 --> 00:36:32,455 [suspenseful music] - [panting softly] 926 00:36:32,523 --> 00:36:34,157 - [gasps] 927 00:36:34,225 --> 00:36:36,894 - But you don't--it's kind of the POV of the doll 928 00:36:36,962 --> 00:36:39,963 that just, like... it--it just drove me crazy. 929 00:36:40,032 --> 00:36:41,832 - [shouting] 930 00:36:43,301 --> 00:36:46,203 [screams] 931 00:36:46,238 --> 00:36:47,570 - And I can be honest. To this day, 932 00:36:47,573 --> 00:36:49,305 I'm still affected by that. 933 00:36:49,308 --> 00:36:52,209 - Nobody believes you about Chucky. 934 00:36:52,244 --> 00:36:55,311 [inhales deeply] Unless you start telling the truth... 935 00:36:55,314 --> 00:36:57,280 right now... 936 00:36:57,348 --> 00:36:59,349 they're going to take you away from me. 937 00:36:59,417 --> 00:37:00,750 - It's about a mother trying 938 00:37:00,818 --> 00:37:02,919 to hold her family together, 939 00:37:02,922 --> 00:37:05,322 defend her--her son against this, you know-- 940 00:37:05,390 --> 00:37:07,958 against the charges of being a--a murderer. 941 00:37:08,026 --> 00:37:10,093 I mean, a seven-year-old boy? Horrible. 942 00:37:10,161 --> 00:37:11,595 And the boy may be mad. 943 00:37:11,663 --> 00:37:13,430 He keeps insisting that his little-- 944 00:37:13,498 --> 00:37:15,298 that his doll is talking to him. 945 00:37:15,366 --> 00:37:16,934 - Come on, Chucky, 946 00:37:17,002 --> 00:37:18,935 say something! 947 00:37:18,938 --> 00:37:20,604 Tell me! 948 00:37:20,672 --> 00:37:22,606 - Hi, I'm Chucky, 949 00:37:22,674 --> 00:37:24,608 and I'm your friend to the end. 950 00:37:24,676 --> 00:37:26,276 Hi-dee-ho! [laughs] 951 00:37:26,345 --> 00:37:27,744 - [grunts] 952 00:37:27,812 --> 00:37:29,546 [sinister music] 953 00:37:29,614 --> 00:37:31,881 - To me, horror is always about 954 00:37:31,884 --> 00:37:33,483 violating the sacred. 955 00:37:33,485 --> 00:37:36,153 Take a child-- something that we all look at 956 00:37:36,221 --> 00:37:39,355 and coo over and look after and dote on-- 957 00:37:39,358 --> 00:37:40,790 and make them... 958 00:37:40,858 --> 00:37:43,560 the most evil [bleep] out there. 959 00:37:43,628 --> 00:37:47,097 And a child's toy is sacred too. 960 00:37:47,165 --> 00:37:49,899 These are things we grow up with, and you-- 961 00:37:49,902 --> 00:37:53,203 you--you basically cast horror's black shadow, uh, 962 00:37:53,271 --> 00:37:57,507 over all this sacred, righteous stuff. 963 00:37:57,576 --> 00:37:59,075 - [deep voice] You stupid bitch! 964 00:37:59,143 --> 00:38:00,576 - [screaming] - You filthy slut! 965 00:38:00,579 --> 00:38:02,446 I'll teach you to [bleep] with me! 966 00:38:02,514 --> 00:38:04,314 - No! No! - In the 1980s, 967 00:38:04,383 --> 00:38:06,582 advertisers had started 968 00:38:06,585 --> 00:38:10,052 to target children directly. 969 00:38:10,055 --> 00:38:12,422 - Brought to you exclusively by Play Pals, 970 00:38:12,490 --> 00:38:14,391 makers of Good Guys and other fine toys. 971 00:38:14,459 --> 00:38:16,192 - It's like children had become 972 00:38:16,260 --> 00:38:18,328 these little consumerist monsters 973 00:38:18,397 --> 00:38:20,731 who could, you know, coerce their parents 974 00:38:20,799 --> 00:38:22,832 into getting them more and more stuff 975 00:38:22,900 --> 00:38:24,701 that they didn't need. 976 00:38:24,769 --> 00:38:27,003 - Well, what do you think? - I want a Good Guy 977 00:38:27,006 --> 00:38:28,672 to go with it. 978 00:38:28,739 --> 00:38:31,008 - I know you do, Andy, but I didn't know about it 979 00:38:31,076 --> 00:38:33,010 in time this month to save up for it. 980 00:38:33,078 --> 00:38:35,545 - I remember my mother telling me 981 00:38:35,547 --> 00:38:37,947 a crazy story about fighting someone 982 00:38:37,950 --> 00:38:41,350 in a dark alley for a Cabbage Patch Kid. 983 00:38:41,353 --> 00:38:44,221 - � I got my doll, I got my doll! � 984 00:38:44,289 --> 00:38:46,456 - We can see this line between 985 00:38:46,524 --> 00:38:49,225 the "direct to children as consumers" advertising 986 00:38:49,294 --> 00:38:51,828 on the one hand and the potential consequences 987 00:38:51,897 --> 00:38:56,066 of what that brings into the home on the other. 988 00:38:56,133 --> 00:38:57,834 - [bellowing] - [exclaims in fear] 989 00:38:57,903 --> 00:39:01,037 [screams] - [growling] 990 00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:04,374 - I was asking for-- for them to create a doll 991 00:39:04,443 --> 00:39:06,242 that had never been created before 992 00:39:06,245 --> 00:39:07,777 to do things on film that had never 993 00:39:07,846 --> 00:39:09,646 been done before. 994 00:39:09,714 --> 00:39:12,349 This is a breath before CGI. There was no way out. 995 00:39:12,384 --> 00:39:14,584 It was all on camera, live or die. 996 00:39:14,652 --> 00:39:16,353 [sinister music] 997 00:39:16,388 --> 00:39:19,189 And we built the apartment up--the apartment set-- 998 00:39:19,257 --> 00:39:22,793 four feet off the ground. 999 00:39:22,861 --> 00:39:24,528 We punched holes through the set 1000 00:39:24,596 --> 00:39:26,496 behind the doll so you couldn't see the wires 1001 00:39:26,564 --> 00:39:28,631 directly behind it. 1002 00:39:28,699 --> 00:39:31,067 - [hollering] 1003 00:39:31,070 --> 00:39:32,469 - [groans] 1004 00:39:32,537 --> 00:39:34,237 - [shouts] 1005 00:39:34,305 --> 00:39:37,140 - I mean, I used every trick in the book 1006 00:39:37,208 --> 00:39:39,743 to try to maintain... 1007 00:39:39,811 --> 00:39:43,080 the illusion that the doll was alive and moving. 1008 00:39:43,148 --> 00:39:45,482 - Hi. 1009 00:39:45,550 --> 00:39:46,817 It's me, Chucky. 1010 00:39:46,885 --> 00:39:49,686 What do you think? 1011 00:39:49,754 --> 00:39:52,688 [ominous piano chords] - Mommy... 1012 00:39:52,691 --> 00:39:54,290 - I mean, think about it: you're being chased 1013 00:39:54,293 --> 00:39:57,193 by something this big with a knife! 1014 00:39:57,261 --> 00:39:58,562 You know, I mean... [stammering] 1015 00:39:58,630 --> 00:40:00,163 You know, how do you sell that? 1016 00:40:00,231 --> 00:40:02,932 - [hissing] - [screams] 1017 00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:05,501 - Well...did, didn't we? 1018 00:40:05,504 --> 00:40:07,604 - Chucky is a piece of horror history. 1019 00:40:07,672 --> 00:40:09,106 Chucky's face sits 1020 00:40:09,174 --> 00:40:11,875 on that horror Hall of Fame board 1021 00:40:11,943 --> 00:40:14,277 right next to the guy in the hockey mask, 1022 00:40:14,345 --> 00:40:16,846 right next to the Michael Myers mask, 1023 00:40:16,849 --> 00:40:18,648 Freddy's glove... 1024 00:40:18,716 --> 00:40:19,849 he's in there. 1025 00:40:19,918 --> 00:40:22,952 - [screaming, groaning] 1026 00:40:23,020 --> 00:40:24,521 narrator: "Child's Play" was violent, 1027 00:40:24,589 --> 00:40:26,122 but no one would mistake it 1028 00:40:26,191 --> 00:40:28,325 for the grim realism of "Maniac." 1029 00:40:28,393 --> 00:40:30,460 [terrifying music] 1030 00:40:30,529 --> 00:40:32,728 - [screams] 1031 00:40:32,731 --> 00:40:34,998 - [grunts] - [screams] 1032 00:40:35,066 --> 00:40:37,400 narrator: Chucky was following a trail blazed 1033 00:40:37,469 --> 00:40:39,068 by one of the most famous characters 1034 00:40:39,137 --> 00:40:40,470 in the history of horror... 1035 00:40:40,539 --> 00:40:43,540 - [cackling] - Freddy Krueger. 1036 00:40:43,608 --> 00:40:45,208 - You know, "Nightmare on Elm Street" 1037 00:40:45,276 --> 00:40:46,843 came out in 1984, 1038 00:40:46,911 --> 00:40:48,578 and I remember seeing that movie 1039 00:40:48,646 --> 00:40:50,413 and I was so excited about the fact that, 1040 00:40:50,481 --> 00:40:52,882 "Ooh, there's a new twist to this sub-genre," 1041 00:40:52,885 --> 00:40:55,218 that now the rules of-- 1042 00:40:55,286 --> 00:40:58,688 of any sort of world don't apply. 1043 00:40:58,756 --> 00:41:00,457 narrator: In part two, we'll see how 1044 00:41:00,492 --> 00:41:02,125 "A Nightmare on Elm Street" 1045 00:41:02,194 --> 00:41:04,461 brought slashers back from the grave... 1046 00:41:04,496 --> 00:41:06,630 - Freddy is in the imagination 1047 00:41:06,698 --> 00:41:08,097 of the person he's haunting... 1048 00:41:08,099 --> 00:41:09,899 - [screams] - And the imagination 1049 00:41:09,968 --> 00:41:11,701 is larger than life. 1050 00:41:11,703 --> 00:41:13,569 narrator: Dive into the psychosexual darkness 1051 00:41:13,572 --> 00:41:15,305 of "Candyman"... 1052 00:41:15,373 --> 00:41:17,173 - You have to be able to deliver the scares, 1053 00:41:17,241 --> 00:41:18,908 and you have to be able to make people talk about it 1054 00:41:18,911 --> 00:41:20,911 long after you've gone. 1055 00:41:20,979 --> 00:41:23,079 narrator: Watch as "Scream" turns the genre inside-out... 1056 00:41:23,147 --> 00:41:24,848 - [screaming] - I thought I was in 1057 00:41:24,916 --> 00:41:26,516 a documentary about a serial killer, 1058 00:41:26,585 --> 00:41:30,786 and they're playing this, you know, for laughs. 1059 00:41:30,789 --> 00:41:32,255 narrator: "The Silence of the Lambs" 1060 00:41:32,324 --> 00:41:34,224 makes grisly horror respectable. 1061 00:41:34,291 --> 00:41:35,558 - Love your suit. 1062 00:41:35,626 --> 00:41:37,260 [saw buzzing] 1063 00:41:37,328 --> 00:41:39,395 narrator: And 21st-century anxiety leads 1064 00:41:39,464 --> 00:41:43,200 to the no-holds-barred terror of "Saw" and "Hostel." 1065 00:41:43,268 --> 00:41:45,201 - [muffled hollering] - People who don't 1066 00:41:45,204 --> 00:41:48,204 see these films take them way more seriously 1067 00:41:48,273 --> 00:41:50,139 than the people who do. 1068 00:41:50,142 --> 00:41:51,908 - [screaming] - We wanted to make something 1069 00:41:51,976 --> 00:41:54,277 that was super scary, and we'd inadvertently 1070 00:41:54,346 --> 00:41:57,280 become known as the kings of torture porn. 1071 00:41:57,348 --> 00:41:58,548 - [screaming] 1072 00:41:59,952 --> 00:42:01,851 - [cackling] 103026

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