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Growing up, we all remember coming
home from school,
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tossing the homework to one side
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and revelling in some great kids TV.
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We had a choice.
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We were either going to watch
Magpie or Blue Peter.
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With its fun and games, it was the
best part of the day.
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With amazing presenters...
Hello!
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...who became more like your best
mates every time you tuned in.
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There is a bit of a party feel
to the programme today.
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You just don't know what's
going to happen.
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The 1980s were the golden years
of children's television.
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So, tonight, get ready to wallow
in nostalgia,
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as you'll see all your favourite
shows and say hello again
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to the legends,
who presented them.
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My God - the dream job.
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And if we all liked kids TV
when it went right...
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...think how much more we'll love it
when it all goes pear-shaped.
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Yeah! You know what you did!
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Anything could go wrong.
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Coming up, things go horribly wrong
for Ant and Dec,
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live on SMTV...
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Dec, are you all right?
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Can we get a nurse?
Can we get a nurse?
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...teen show GamesMaster
gets totes awks...
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I think I've been set up
fairly badly here today.
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Ooh! It's difficult to watch.
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...and a star is airborne
on Blue Peter.
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What a plonker.
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I'm Andi Peters.
Yep, that's me.
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And I'll be taking you on
a psychedelic trip down memory lane,
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as kids TV goes horribly wrong.
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First up, when a big budget
kids' movie is released,
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its stars typically do the rounds
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with publicity interviews
with everyone,
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and that includes our most iconic
kids TV show Blue Peter.
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Hollywood actor Kevin Hart was lined
up to talk about his new movie,
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The Secret Life of Pets 2 to Blue
Peter presenter Lindsey Russell,
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who was there with her sidekick,
rescue dog, Henry.
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Hey, Kevin, how are you?
I'm Lindsey.
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How are you doing? What's his name?
This is Henry.
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Henry? Yes. Hi, Henry.
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And he is our Blue Peter dog.
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A Blue Peter dog.
What does that mean?
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Seems like...
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He's kind of staring you out.
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...a laidback dog.
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Let's talk Secret Life of Pets 2.
OK.
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It's... See what I'm saying?
HENRY GROWLS
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See what I'm saying? See what
I'm saying? Stop. Here we go.
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We saw the film...
Here comes my nightmare.
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Be professional.
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We loved the film, didn't we?
Did we? Yes.
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Did we? I promise you, we did.
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Henry, what is your problem, man?
What's your problem?
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Henry has turned into a pit bull.
OK.
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He's one man that believes the hype.
He believes the hype.
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Tiffany Haddish's character,
who is a Shih Tzu,
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feels she's in trouble...
This is hilarious.
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You're boring him. Yes.
I'm listening.
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You know, maybe he's just
a tough critic.
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Maybe Kevin's not really saying
what he's wanting him to say.
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Are you OK? Are you all right?
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He's out. He's just going to check
out and have a nap over here.
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I think we should get back
to talking about Snowball.
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I'm a thinker, I'm a... OK.
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I'm a over thinker.
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Unlike Henry.
Henry is definitely...
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He's taken over...
Chewing the cards.
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He had some questions,
but they're...
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How many dogs do you have?
just one. just one.
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Do you think we're going to get
another one? No, no.
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If one's like this... I was going
to ask if you had another one.
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How did Henry get the call?
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He's a rescue dog, so we actually
didn't know a lot about Henry.
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Aha!
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Should I do the next bit?
Or do you want to do the next bit?
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Oh, when it comes to animals,
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there's a lot of things
that we just don't know.
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I do recognise the iron grip
on his collar.
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I'm never bringing you to one
of these again. Yeah.
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If you could see the state
of the floor...
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I mean, there's card everywhere.
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Yeah. You've ruined it
for yourself, buddy.
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Just chill out.
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OK, let's talk about this.
HENRY WHINES AND GROWLS
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OK, it's happening. Henry...
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OK, the set's being ruined
behind you,
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because Henry's...
He's off the lead.
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This is a presenter's
worst moment ever.
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Like, you just are sitting
there thinking,
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"Ground, open up and swallow me."
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Blue Peter isn't known for things
going horribly wrong,
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but this went viral
for all the wrong reasons.
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Although in Henry's defence,
some viewers thought
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he didn't fully deserve
to be hounded.
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You had your
chance, mister, you blew it.
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Yeah! You know what you did.
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Kevin, I've got to thank you.
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You've more than earned the
Blue Peter badge today. Thank you.
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Cos you put up with me and Henry.
No, no.
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You tell Henry I don't want to see
him ever again.
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HE WHINES
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1980s kids' TV wouldn't have been
worth the Betamax videotapes
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we recorded them on
without a mention
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of the astonishing double act
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that was Rod Hull and
his feathered friend Emu.
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He likes you, doesn't he? Ow, no!
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THEY LAUGH
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The one thing you could always
guarantee was that
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Emu would behave savagely badly.
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No, don't!
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In the mid '80s,
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ITV bosses commissioned
a live kids' TV programme.
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Emu's Pink Windmill show.
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Fronted, of course, by Emu...
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Ouch!
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...with the help of his handler, Rod.
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Leave her alone!
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Grotbags, who arrived every
now and then to cause trouble...
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Help, please! Help me!
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...and lots of stage school
youngsters.
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ALL:
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The show also featured the
1980s' staple,
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the live phone-in competition.
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Why don't we try,
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and keep your fingers crossed,
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let's see if we can phone somebody
at home
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and play a game of Emu Spin Quiz?
ALL:
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He heads over to the phone,
you can tell he's nervous.
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Right, you've got the number?
WHISPERS: Keep your fingers crossed!
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He's got one of his windmill kids
doing the dialling for him.
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And, Emu, what are you going to do?
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Cross your legs?
Oh, all right, then.
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Have you got it done?
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Cos you've got to wait for the
number to go round
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and then come back.
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Just, just do it.
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Oh, it's ringing.
Oh, thank goodness, it's ringing.
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We're gonna give you one of
these lovely T-shirts,
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which is just a sort of
a consolation prize. All right.
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You get this sense
that he's dreading this.
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HE HUMS, WHISTLES
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It's thatmwhistling moment.
HE LAUGHS UNCOMFORTABLY
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There obviously isn't anybody in.
No, I don't think so. Yes.
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Answer the phone!
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Aren't you supposed to call
before the show starts?
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But clearly not in the '80s.
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You've got to be cool, calm,
collected, because, as you know,
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we are in fact broadcasting to you
live from the Pink Windmill.
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Tell you what, why don't we quickly
phone up somebody else? All right?
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And on a live show,
if something goes wrong,
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even if it's only
a really tiny thing,
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at that moment, it's the most
important thing in the world.
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As quick as we can. Um,
we can ring up Carol Draper. Yes.
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And she's from Devon. Yes.
She's 11 years old!
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Yes. Um... 0...
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DIAL TONE RESONATES
No, there's nothing.
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LAUGHTER
Pardon?
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We do have good fun
with this game, don't we?
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HE IMITATES DIAL TONE
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HE IMITATES DIAL TONE
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You've got a blank bo-oo-ah.
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This is just too embarrassing
to watch, it's mortifying.
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With Rod high and dry
getting no answer,
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the producers decided
they had no option
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but to go straight
to an ad break.
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I'll see you in part two!
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After the break, and now over
half an hour into the show,
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Rod and his assistant were still
trying to call someone,
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anyone on the phone!
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We're going to try and phone
that other one up again. In...
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Where was it?
In Exeter or something?
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Uh, Cardiff. Cardiff.
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If she's not in now,
then I think I'll go home.
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And you can just see the fear
in his face.
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Ah...
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Because we're... Um... Yes.
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He's obviously having a mental
breakdown live on TV.
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PHONE RINGS
Are they still out?
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Oh, why do we bother?
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Poor Rod, poor Emu.
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See what we'll do,
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we'll have another game
of this next week! Um...
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Unluckily for all concerned,
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social media has revived the
toe and beak curling moment
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for modern audiences who seem
to find it just as cringe making
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more than three decades later.
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Kids telly doesn't really get
more awkward than that.
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ALL:
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Still to come, we're off
to the world of teen telly
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where a contender throws
a strop on GamesMaster.
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I think I've been set up
fairly badly here today.
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SHE SQUEALS
It's difficult to watch.
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And a familiar face hits
the deck on SMTV.
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Dec, are you all right?
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If you were a teenager in the '80s,
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there was a reasonable chance you'd
be glued every Saturday morning
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to BBC One.
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There was a great tradition
of Saturday morning kids TV
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and Superstore was one of the
defining ones.
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It was presented by Mike Read and
Keith Chegwin, and it was long,
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about three hours long
and it was anarchically chaotic,
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but in a controlled way.
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We've got in the store this morning,
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loads and loads of twins.
Morning, twins! ALL: Morning!
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ROCK MUSIC PLAYS
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But one week, the show decided
to invite an unusual guest.
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The bassist from punk band,
The Damned,
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a certain Captain Sensible.
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I can see how that booking happens.
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They said, "Shall we get this guy
0n?"
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MUSIC CONTINUES
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"ls he going to be a loose cannon?"
"No. He's going to be fine.
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"He's called Captain Sensible."
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Morning, Captain. Hello.
He's been asleep.
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Punk bands, they don't just wake up
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and watch kids TV
on a Saturday morning.
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LAUGHTER
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I've been, I've been cleaning
the toilets
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down in the basement
and they don't half smell. Really?
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Yeah, it's terrible.
Warehouse is terribly smelly.
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You've been a janitor in your time,
haven't you? Yes, I did.
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I did it for about,
uh, four or five months.
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So with the Captain's previous
toilet experience in mind,
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the show invited him to present the
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1984 Schooljanitor
Of The Year award.
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This lovely silver bucket.
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And the winner will get
this gorgeous silver broom,
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presented by the ex loo cleaner
himself, Captain Sensible.
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All right?
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That's his prize.
Can I award this to him?
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Yes. He's in there somewhere.
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Would you just like to just put
this...? Just pass it.
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That's it. There we are. There
you go. He's got it. All right?
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After presenting the coveted award,
the Captain decided it was time
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to give us a rendition of his recent
solo hit Happy Talk, accompanied,
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of course, by the winning janitor.
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Happy Talk.
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HE IMITATES TRUMPET, MUFFLED SINGING
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Get them off, get them off,
get them off.
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# You've got to have a dream
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# If you don't have a dream... #
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Oh, where's your old guitar, Mike?
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Ah, terrific.
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APPLAUSE, CHEERING
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After you, sir!
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It sort of happens almost in
slow motion
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where he just like tumbles down.
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You know he's going to go
and he absolutely smacks the floor.
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ROCK MUSIC PLAYS
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He's probably not even gone to bed
yet from his night out before.
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The telly tumble has, of course,
been pored over by modern viewers
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who've decided that
a horrible fall from grace...
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...wasn't entirely out of character
for a member of The Damned.
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I think he was probably
under the influence of something
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other than the breakfast cornflakes.
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Not very sensible on this occasion,
I'd say.
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Still on Saturday morning TV,
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fast forward to the year 2000,
when Geordie pair Ant and Dec
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were getting a name for themselves
as a couple of very cheeky chappies.
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Oh... Hello. Welcome to SMTV Live.
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I'm hungry. I mean, I'm Ant.
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And I'm delicious.
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LAUGHTER
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I mean... I mean... Dec.
Oh, hiya. Hiya.
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They still have that
really fun element.
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It's time for the SMTV postman!
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In April of that year, the lads
were doing an item which involved
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a bit of presenter participation
in a dance number.
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# Oh, yeah... #
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They were doing a dance routine
with Cat Deeley on the show, live,
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and it was all going really well.
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# ls there a letter
in your bag for me?
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# Please, Mr Postman
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# It's been such a long time... #
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CHEERING DROWNS SINGING
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There we are! Coming up later...
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AUDIENCE MEMBERS SQUEAL
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Dec fell to the floor and seemed
to collapse during the number.
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What's he doing? ls he all right?
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What's he doing?
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He's on the floor...
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What's he doing?
Dec, are you all right?
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TV SCREEN BEEPS
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Dec, are you all right? Dec?
Can someone get the nurse?
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"Can we get a nurse?
Can we get a nurse?"
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Someone get the nurse. Chloe!
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You can see the panic in her eyes.
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You know, it's live TV and there
he is just lying on the ground!
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As the show cut to a cartoon break,
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concerned viewers were left
thinking the worst.
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Obviously, I was really concerned,
as was the nation.
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People are ringing in and
they're saying, "ls he OK?"
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ITV are on the phone asking,
"l$ he OK?"
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GUITAR RIFFS
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
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But then they come back
and he's apparently fine
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and you want to know what's wrong.
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Something happened here
in the studio.
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I just... I just keeled over
and collapsed.
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I wasn't feeling too well,
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but thanks for all
of your calls of concern,
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there's no need to be alarmed.
Thanks for your concern.
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And I'd just like to say,
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happy April Fool's Day.
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IN A GEORDIE ACCENT:
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Funny...when he says it, but at
the time, we were all panicking,
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thinking Dec's gone!
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I can't actually believe
that they would do it on live TV.
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The distressing prank had
totally misfired,
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leading to awkward headlines and a
rap on the knuckles for Ant and Dec.
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Their phone lines were jammed
with complaints from viewers
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because they were genuinely
concerned, so they'd be ringing
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asking if he was OK, couldn't
get through and then realised
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it was a joke. So they kind of felt
a bit put out by this.
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In fact, I believe they got in
trouble by the gods above
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at TV Land. But, let's face it, it
hasn't done their careers any harm.
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Naughty Ant and Dec.
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LAUGHTER
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Back in the 1990s, every tech
savvy teen in the land
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had just one thing
on his or her mind...
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That's all I did in the '90s, just
played video games all day long.
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...and they religiously
tuned in every week
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to see Channel 4's GamesMaster,
hosted by gaming guru
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Dominik Diamond to see what was the
next big thing.
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GamesMaster was an iconic TV show.
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Everyone was crazy about it.
The teenagers loved it.
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In 1996, the show did a Christmas
special featuring a play-off
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between two of its in-house gamers.
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This was a battle
that we kids tuned in
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and really, really wanted to watch.
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Kirk Ewing was lining up to take
on the self-appointed best gamer
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in the world -
Dave "Games Animal" Perry.
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He sort of looks the part, the part
of a weird, obsessive gamer.
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The two joystick jousters would
contest the sharp turns
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and terrifying slopes of Nintendo's
latest version of Super Mario.
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The challenge then is whoever
can get to the bottom
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of the Cool, Cool Mountain course
in the quickest time will walk away
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with our special
Christmas quiz joystick.
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They are going to go
for the golden joystick.
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Off you go, Kirk.
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OK, and off he goes, then, and we
are at the start of the slope here.
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Kirk's on his way down and he seems
to be doing fairly well.
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It's a very good start, Dominik,
wouldn't you agree?
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Oh, yes, I definitely agree,
Dominik.
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He's taking it nice and easy...
But he's off there.
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He has lasted for 20 seconds...
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Oh, Kirk, I'm not an expert,
but that was rubbish.
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Now it's Dave's turn.
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Your time begins now.
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And off Dave goes.
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Again, now, it's a touch...some
might say cowardly,
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some might say clever.
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He starts sliding Mario
down the slippery slope.
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He is certainly staying
on his bottom...
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He then starts jumping
for some reason.
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...and trying to last long
as he can...
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...but I don't think it's worked!
He tried to play conservative.
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SOMBRE PIANO MUSIC
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There's a flash of anger slash
disappointment on his face.
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But I don't think it's worked,
he tried to play it conservative.
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A good tactic, but he lasted
for 13.35 seconds.
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Come on, Dave.
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13 seconds?!
SHE TUTS
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What happened? What went wrong?
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Well, I think I've been set up
fairly badly here today.
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Dave, rather than just taking it on
the chin, he starts kicking off.
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I think having a final game
where one player owns the game
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and the machine and one player
doesn't isn't in the interest
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of fair play.
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All these excuses start to come out.
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SHE SQUEALS
It's difficult to watch.
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OK, so, what you're saying, Dave,
is the biggest game of this year,
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you haven't played much?
It's not released till next year.
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I'll play it next year when
it's released in this country.
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OK. You are a journalist,
we can get it on import.
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Not a journalist, I'm a marketing
manager. Right...
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So, we're not seeing sour grapes
at all here, Dave,
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is what you're trying to say?
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No, we're not. We're seeing somebody
just saying he's been set up.
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He looks like a child throwing
his toys out of the pram.
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It's just pitiful.
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The new Games Animal -
Mr Kirk Ewing!
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APPLAUSE
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The precious Gold Joystick Award
is spirited by the maidens
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into the hands of Dave's
arch-nemesis Kirk...
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...leaving the man himself to ponder
where it all went wrong.
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It's not like it's all over the
internet for people
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to watch your meltdown nowadays,
is it? N0...
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Presumably, Dave thought
that once the red mist lifted,
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everyone would forget.
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But when the internet generation
got to see it,
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everyone had something to say.
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Yeah, if Dave is watching this now,
he's got to be dying.
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I mean, the bandana alone?
Sorry, Dave.
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Dave!
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Wonder what you're doing now.
He's probably a bank manager.
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# Mummy, Mummy, I love you, Mummy
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# This is your special day... #
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Over in Cambodia,
one of the most popular
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family entertainment shows
is Like It Or Not.
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For their 2015 Mother's Day special,
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the producers decided to invite the
then 13-year-old singing sensation
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Autumn Allen onto the show.
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# Mummy, Mummy, I love you, Mummy. #
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I went on a show in 2015 called
Penh Chet Ort or Like It Or Not.
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There was a Cambodian TV show.
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It was like the equivalent of
Surprise, Surprise.
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Since I was born, I've always been
living with my dad
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and I've saw my mum twice.
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Her dad took off to Cambodia
when she was six.
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They said that my mum was
going to come out too.
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So she's all excited.
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Bet you can't wait to meet your mum!
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Surprise, surprise! Like,
we're bringing out your mum today.
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I was hoping that she
would come out.
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LAUGHTER
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The Cambodians' answer to
Dame Edna walks out.
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Oh, hello, Mum! Blimmin' hell.
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It is one of the most messed up
things I think...
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...someone could do on TV.
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LAUGHTER
422
00:24:31,151 --> 00:24:33,820
It was kind of like, "Guess what,
little orphan?
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"You're not an orphan any more!"
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"Oh, wait. Yes, you are.
That's a man."
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I didn't know how to react.
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I tried to hold in my tears,
but it didn't really work.
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Yes, I'm fine.
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00:24:54,241 --> 00:24:57,976
Yeah. Why are you a tulip?
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And the little girl is sat there
like, "This is great!"
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And you can see that she's really
crying on the inside.
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I was scared that if I cried,
that I would be embarrassed.
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It's Mothers' Day today.
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LAUGHTER
THEY SPEAK IN KHMER
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"Oh, ha-ha-ha!"
"Yeah." Brilliant.
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00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:24,495
Why play a joke on a child
like that?
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THEY SPEAK KHMER
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I don't think it's fair
to play with kids' emotions
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for the sake of entertainment.
I don't think that worked for me.
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It was an excruciating
ten minutes of live TV
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that poor Autumn will never forget.
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Social media went into meltdown
about it, you can imagine.
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Everyone was kind of shocked.
Well, if I'd have been there,
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I'd have been tweeting
about how awful that was.
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After TV bosses met Autumn
to apologise,
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she published her response
on Facebook.
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00:26:06,081 --> 00:26:09,000
I think they meant for it
to be a joke.
447
00:26:09,001 --> 00:26:12,240
They tried to make it funny,
but it went wrong.
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00:26:12,241 --> 00:26:14,806
It was mindless
and ridiculously cruel.
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Still to come, more classic
kids telly as Katy Perry
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takes things too far
on Sesame Street...
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# ..someone stop the monster... #
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Some parents found
this a little bit raunchy.
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"Get it off of our screens!"
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...Transvision Vamp's Wendy James
gets young boys' pulses racing...
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Do all your knickers
match your frocks?
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Well, no, I don't usually wear them.
457
00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:41,750
...and the Teletubbies episode...
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00:26:41,751 --> 00:26:44,030
I am the scary lion!
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00:26:44,031 --> 00:26:46,360
...that gave youngsters nightmares.
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Why is this happening
on Teletubbies?
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LION ROARS
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# Sunny days sweeping
the clouds away... #
463
00:27:02,701 --> 00:27:05,749
With its catchy theme tune
and colourful characters,
464
00:27:05,750 --> 00:27:09,310
the American children's television
series Sesame Street has,
465
00:27:09,311 --> 00:27:14,749
since 1969, both entertained
and educated generations of kids.
466
00:27:14,750 --> 00:27:16,910
# ..get to Sesame Street... #
467
00:27:16,911 --> 00:27:19,926
Sesame Street is iconic.
468
00:27:23,271 --> 00:27:26,700
Educational, fun, full of quite
weird characters.
469
00:27:26,701 --> 00:27:27,830
Kermit.
470
00:27:27,831 --> 00:27:31,499
Big Bird, of course.
Oscar the Grouch, Cookie Monster.
471
00:27:31,500 --> 00:27:33,756
All icons in their own right.
472
00:27:36,471 --> 00:27:40,549
Its much-loved cast of puppets
have, over the years, also rubbed
473
00:27:40,550 --> 00:27:43,499
shoulders with some A-list celebrity
guests, including the likes
474
00:27:43,500 --> 00:27:46,549
of Michael Buble
and even Michelle Obama.
475
00:27:46,550 --> 00:27:49,419
If you're invited onto it
as a guest,
476
00:27:49,420 --> 00:27:51,645
it's a real badge of honour.
477
00:27:52,911 --> 00:27:56,529
In 2010, singer Katy Perry
got the call to come and
478
00:27:56,530 --> 00:27:59,030
do a special music number
on the show.
479
00:27:59,031 --> 00:28:01,780
Cute, kitschy? Katy Perry...
480
00:28:01,781 --> 00:28:03,395
...was a massive pop star...
481
00:28:08,341 --> 00:28:10,529
The song was one of Katy's own,
Hot N Cold.
482
00:28:10,530 --> 00:28:13,860
They kind of re-versioned it with
some new lyrics for Sesame Street.
483
00:28:13,861 --> 00:28:15,230
Really cute idea.
484
00:28:15,231 --> 00:28:16,980
# You're hot then you're cold... #
485
00:28:16,981 --> 00:28:20,590
And she would be performing a duet
with puppet character - Baby Elmo.
486
00:28:20,591 --> 00:28:22,060
# I'm starting to doubt... #
487
00:28:22,061 --> 00:28:25,645
Katy Perry came in and
she was looking, like, banging.
488
00:28:29,141 --> 00:28:31,036
Tiny little dress...
489
00:28:33,061 --> 00:28:35,470
...little pointy bits above the boob.
490
00:28:35,471 --> 00:28:38,910
This is a small dress, but it's a
big song and they do it really well.
491
00:28:38,911 --> 00:28:39,956
It's lovely.
492
00:28:43,911 --> 00:28:48,116
Elmo was running around
her exposed legs...
493
00:28:53,231 --> 00:28:57,780
His short height with her short
dress gave him what I think is known
494
00:28:57,781 --> 00:28:59,030
as a front-row seat.
495
00:28:59,031 --> 00:29:02,340
# Someone stop that monster... #
496
00:29:02,341 --> 00:29:04,619
A publicity preview of the
song went online -
497
00:29:04,620 --> 00:29:07,060
the producers were hoping for
a big reaction,
498
00:29:07,061 --> 00:29:08,956
but not quite the one they got...
499
00:29:12,061 --> 00:29:14,780
...when some parents, appalled
at how Katy was dressed,
500
00:29:14,781 --> 00:29:17,950
took to social media
to vent their anger.
501
00:29:17,951 --> 00:29:20,340
Some parents found this
a little bit raunchy.
502
00:29:20,341 --> 00:29:23,595
They complained in their droves,
although it hadn't been on air.
503
00:29:28,341 --> 00:29:30,310
I think they were reading
too much into it.
504
00:29:30,311 --> 00:29:33,619
But the programme bowed to
parent power and dropped the song,
505
00:29:33,620 --> 00:29:36,980
although the papers made sure Katy
and Elmo's cancelled playdate
506
00:29:36,981 --> 00:29:39,246
was given maximum column inches.
507
00:29:44,420 --> 00:29:49,086
But if you go to Katy Perry's page
on YouTube, you'll find it.
508
00:29:51,311 --> 00:29:54,780
Yes, despite being banned from TV,
the performance has been available
509
00:29:54,781 --> 00:29:56,525
for years for all to see online.
510
00:29:57,861 --> 00:30:00,780
And it's been viewed almost
100 million times.
511
00:30:00,781 --> 00:30:02,505
Let's just hope none of them
are children.
512
00:30:08,141 --> 00:30:09,910
"I'll be 15 minutes, one second."
513
00:30:09,911 --> 00:30:13,690
The general public seemed divided
between those who supported the mums
514
00:30:13,691 --> 00:30:17,316
and dads to others who thought
it was all a storm in a D-cup.
515
00:30:20,311 --> 00:30:23,230
Probably still causing
outrage to this day.
516
00:30:23,231 --> 00:30:26,206
CAMERA SHUTTERS CLICK
517
00:30:28,141 --> 00:30:31,619
In the early '90s, the BBC's
flagship kids programme was the
518
00:30:31,620 --> 00:30:33,286
Saturday morning show
"Going Live!"...
519
00:30:34,620 --> 00:30:37,060
...presented by the awesome
Philip and Sarah.
520
00:30:37,061 --> 00:30:39,980
"Going Live!" was full of noise.
521
00:30:39,981 --> 00:30:42,030
There was so much going
on in the studio.
522
00:30:42,031 --> 00:30:44,886
I used to watch it all the time.
I loved it.
523
00:30:47,981 --> 00:30:51,390
It's wholesome, you know? All
the young kids are watching it.
524
00:30:51,391 --> 00:30:54,910
Being the BBC, the content was
usually good, clean fun,
525
00:30:54,911 --> 00:30:59,310
but on Saturday 13th April 1991,
that was about to change
526
00:30:59,311 --> 00:31:02,749
with a live performance by the group
Transvision Vamp, whose raunchy
527
00:31:02,750 --> 00:31:06,926
singer Wendy James was guaranteed to
set young boys' pulses racing.
528
00:31:19,670 --> 00:31:21,830
Transvision Vamp, very pretty lady.
529
00:31:21,831 --> 00:31:24,060
She had a sexy kind of costume on.
530
00:31:24,061 --> 00:31:28,390
The thing about kids TV is the
cameras are always much lower
531
00:31:28,391 --> 00:31:29,980
because that's where the kids are,
532
00:31:29,981 --> 00:31:32,166
which makes it really
tricky for the adults.
533
00:31:40,141 --> 00:31:42,639
All the way through that
performance, there's loads of,
534
00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:44,610
like, crotch shots...
HE LAUGHS
535
00:31:44,611 --> 00:31:47,210
...which is so inappropriate
for that time in the morning.
536
00:31:47,211 --> 00:31:50,026
Bit wrong, isn't it? It is!
On a kids show. On children's TV!
537
00:31:53,890 --> 00:31:55,826
I was... I was just mesmerised.
538
00:32:00,411 --> 00:32:01,495
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
539
00:32:02,611 --> 00:32:05,050
They've done their live PA
on the show and then they...
540
00:32:05,051 --> 00:32:07,920
...invited Wendy James to come have
a little chat with Sarah,
541
00:32:07,921 --> 00:32:09,689
take some calls and stuff like that.
542
00:32:09,690 --> 00:32:12,800
Come and stand here. Let's have
a quick twirl now.
543
00:32:12,801 --> 00:32:14,639
Absolutely gorgeous!
544
00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:18,610
Wendy had made a decision
to wear a shorter dress,
545
00:32:18,611 --> 00:32:21,689
which is fine - feminism, hashtag
feminism all the way...
546
00:32:21,690 --> 00:32:24,490
It's handy that your knickers
match, isn't it?
547
00:32:24,491 --> 00:32:26,720
I think they're actually sewn
into it, fortunately.
548
00:32:26,721 --> 00:32:29,080
Oh, are they? Do all your knickers
match your frocks?
549
00:32:29,081 --> 00:32:31,026
Well, no, I don't usually wear them.
550
00:32:37,211 --> 00:32:38,696
Oh, what, not knickers? No.
551
00:32:43,690 --> 00:32:46,250
Everyone wears knickers!
552
00:32:46,251 --> 00:32:49,210
And so, these young children
are sat hearing a conversation
553
00:32:49,211 --> 00:32:51,920
that should really happen on
Loose Women, if you ask me.
554
00:32:51,921 --> 00:32:54,769
And they've also got her cooch
at eye-level.
555
00:32:54,770 --> 00:32:56,569
It wasn't that it went over my head,
556
00:32:56,570 --> 00:32:58,080
if that's the right expression!
557
00:32:58,081 --> 00:33:02,280
But it didn't seem strange at all
that we'd be discussing
558
00:33:02,281 --> 00:33:05,226
her underwear on Saturday mornings.
559
00:33:07,251 --> 00:33:10,070
It seemed really straightforward
560
00:33:10,071 --> 00:33:12,040
and that was what was so great
about that show.
561
00:33:12,041 --> 00:33:14,770
Probably we got away with murder
because of that.
562
00:33:14,771 --> 00:33:17,916
I don't usually wear them.
Oh, what? Not knickers? No.
563
00:33:23,860 --> 00:33:26,050
I'll tell you what - my mum and dad
didn't see much of me
564
00:33:26,051 --> 00:33:27,409
that afternoon, let me tell you.
565
00:33:27,410 --> 00:33:29,690
So, you're not scared about
catching cold or anything?
566
00:33:29,691 --> 00:33:32,080
Oh, no. If you wear a warm pair
of woolly tights...
567
00:33:32,081 --> 00:33:33,436
Oh, I see, woolly tights.
568
00:33:40,381 --> 00:33:43,859
It was actually on Points Of View.
Everyone kind of, like, got involved
569
00:33:43,860 --> 00:33:45,690
and there was a lot of
backlash for it.
570
00:33:45,691 --> 00:33:48,220
And then she went on another
chat show the following week
571
00:33:48,221 --> 00:33:49,690
and she was talking about it.
572
00:33:49,691 --> 00:33:54,659
So it was quite a big kind of furore
and quite a big thing at the time.
573
00:33:54,660 --> 00:33:57,580
She probably just did it for the
headlines. Makes her famous... Yeah.
574
00:33:57,581 --> 00:34:00,050
...sells more records. So, what
do you fancy? Shall we, er,
575
00:34:00,051 --> 00:34:01,970
...get ours off? Do you mind
if we just quickly go
576
00:34:01,971 --> 00:34:03,505
and take our knickers off?
577
00:34:05,374 --> 00:34:08,791
The show that changed kids
TV forever was lTV's Tiswas,
578
00:34:08,792 --> 00:34:12,071
which was on our screens between
1974 and 1982,
579
00:34:12,072 --> 00:34:16,471
presided over by Chris Tarrant and
Sally James, it was the prototype
580
00:34:16,472 --> 00:34:19,021
anarchic TV show with
its random flinging of flans
581
00:34:19,022 --> 00:34:20,661
and hurling of water,
582
00:34:20,662 --> 00:34:24,151
it was a mixture of mayhem,
madness and near hysteria.
583
00:34:24,152 --> 00:34:27,221
One classic episode featured a
strong man, Tony Brutus.
584
00:34:27,222 --> 00:34:30,941
Now, back then, musclemen
and strength acts were a real draw.
585
00:34:30,942 --> 00:34:34,111
That episode had two more unlikely
guests heavyweight wrestler,
586
00:34:34,112 --> 00:34:37,021
Big Daddy, and controversial
Manchester-born comedian
587
00:34:37,022 --> 00:34:40,221
Bernard Manning, who made his name
on the workingman's club scene
588
00:34:40,222 --> 00:34:42,077
before breaking into TV.
589
00:34:47,192 --> 00:34:49,911
Quite what he'd lifted before
to acquire that title, I'm not sure.
590
00:34:49,912 --> 00:34:52,830
And he thinks he can lift
up both Bernard Manning
591
00:34:52,831 --> 00:34:56,191
and the wrestler, Big Daddy.
592
00:34:56,192 --> 00:34:58,911
Sit down, sit down.
Yeah.
593
00:34:58,912 --> 00:35:01,111
LAUGHTER
594
00:35:01,112 --> 00:35:06,021
The first problem he encounters
is that when the guys sit down,
595
00:35:06,022 --> 00:35:07,917
their weights are slightly
different.
596
00:35:12,501 --> 00:35:15,407
And we get a little shot of
Bernard's Y-fronts.
597
00:35:18,631 --> 00:35:20,917
LAUGHTER
598
00:35:26,272 --> 00:35:27,500
All right. Ready...
599
00:35:27,501 --> 00:35:29,661
Sit, sit, sit.
600
00:35:29,662 --> 00:35:31,356
Sit. Sit down.
601
00:35:34,272 --> 00:35:36,741
His leg buckles,
he gets trapped underneath
602
00:35:36,742 --> 00:35:39,327
Big Daddy and Bernard Manning
and the weight and himself.
603
00:35:46,432 --> 00:35:48,380
The TV producers are
very upset by this,
604
00:35:48,381 --> 00:35:50,941
but Tony still gives
the kids a wave.
605
00:35:50,942 --> 00:35:53,197
However, he doesn't work
for another six months.
606
00:35:57,662 --> 00:35:59,580
So maybe it wasn't worth it,
in the long run.
607
00:35:59,581 --> 00:36:01,941
But even that disaster didn't
deter Manning
608
00:36:01,942 --> 00:36:04,167
from returning to
the Tiswas studios.
609
00:36:10,501 --> 00:36:12,301
Oh...
610
00:36:12,302 --> 00:36:14,380
Where do you want my hands?
611
00:36:14,381 --> 00:36:17,407
ROBOTIC VOICE:
One at a time, please.
612
00:36:21,711 --> 00:36:24,500
LAUGHTER
613
00:36:24,501 --> 00:36:28,911
ROBOTIC VOICE SPEAKS
614
00:36:28,912 --> 00:36:31,111
And he got on the machine and
it was supposed to say,
615
00:36:31,112 --> 00:36:34,630
"Oh, weight too heavy, weight
too heavy, weight too heavy."
616
00:36:34,631 --> 00:36:36,997
ROBOTIC VOICE:
35, overload, overload.
617
00:36:40,381 --> 00:36:42,336
LAUGHTER, SHOUTS
618
00:37:11,831 --> 00:37:13,500
# Teletubbies
619
00:37:13,501 --> 00:37:15,111
# Teletubbies
620
00:37:15,112 --> 00:37:16,580
# Say hello... #
621
00:37:16,581 --> 00:37:19,861
As four colourful creatures join us
from their grass landscaped world,
622
00:37:19,862 --> 00:37:23,781
it's another episode of the
CBBC kids' show Teletubbies,
623
00:37:23,782 --> 00:37:26,911
so popular it's been aired
across the world since the '90s
624
00:37:26,912 --> 00:37:29,710
in no less than 45
different languages,
625
00:37:29,711 --> 00:37:33,191
not including the weird one
that the stars speak in.
626
00:37:33,192 --> 00:37:36,580
TELETUBBIES GIGGLE AND BABBLE
627
00:37:36,581 --> 00:37:39,071
They're not teddy bears,
but they're not like aliens...
628
00:37:39,072 --> 00:37:41,271
They're some kind of hybrid.
629
00:37:41,272 --> 00:37:43,911
With weird things on their heads.
630
00:37:43,912 --> 00:37:46,111
They've got screens
in their bellies.
631
00:37:46,112 --> 00:37:48,247
They run around and
they speak gibberish.
632
00:37:50,711 --> 00:37:54,380
But after winning multiple awards,
this bright and bonkers creation,
633
00:37:54,381 --> 00:37:57,941
starring Tinky Winky, Dipsy,
Laa-Laa and Po,
634
00:37:57,942 --> 00:37:59,967
must be doing something right.
635
00:38:05,862 --> 00:38:10,661
There was lots of new ways
in that show that were created
636
00:38:10,662 --> 00:38:13,527
to engage with very, very,
very young viewers.
637
00:38:14,751 --> 00:38:16,941
Every programme would
usually feature a moment
638
00:38:16,942 --> 00:38:18,887
when something magical happened.
639
00:38:26,862 --> 00:38:29,191
But in one episode from 1997,
640
00:38:29,192 --> 00:38:32,741
they decided to go for
something a bit fiercer.
641
00:38:32,742 --> 00:38:35,380
I'm the Bear. I'm the Bear.
642
00:38:35,381 --> 00:38:39,391
A bear came in, and it looked like
it was on, like, a skateboard.
643
00:38:39,392 --> 00:38:41,021
It was, like, gliding around.
644
00:38:41,022 --> 00:38:43,271
I'm the Bear, I'm the Bear,
645
00:38:43,272 --> 00:38:45,447
with brown, fuzzy hair.
646
00:38:47,862 --> 00:38:50,351
I'll hide over here...
647
00:38:50,352 --> 00:38:52,351
BEAR LAUGHS
648
00:38:52,352 --> 00:38:54,301
...and I'll hide over there.
649
00:38:54,302 --> 00:38:58,141
And this bear is sort of appearing
here and disappearing behind bushes
650
00:38:58,142 --> 00:39:00,500
and then appearing on a hill
far away...
651
00:39:00,501 --> 00:39:03,021
Can you see me?
652
00:39:03,022 --> 00:39:06,951
...which I guess is...is playful,
but a little bit odd.
653
00:39:06,952 --> 00:39:08,951
TELETUBBIES: Shhh!
654
00:39:08,952 --> 00:39:10,361
Oooh!
655
00:39:10,362 --> 00:39:12,720
But as the blue skies clouded over,
656
00:39:12,721 --> 00:39:15,640
the mood changed from playful
to petrifying.
657
00:39:15,641 --> 00:39:17,121
OMINOUS MUSIC
658
00:39:17,122 --> 00:39:18,561
The music changes,
659
00:39:18,562 --> 00:39:20,401
it's got this, like, howling wind.
660
00:39:20,402 --> 00:39:24,121
ECHOING GROWLS
661
00:39:24,122 --> 00:39:27,121
The clouds start to move
really fast and the...
662
00:39:27,122 --> 00:39:29,031
...the trees start to shake.
663
00:39:29,032 --> 00:39:32,840
It's like someone's opened a portal
to some kind of hell dimension
664
00:39:32,841 --> 00:39:35,081
within Teletubbyland.
665
00:39:35,082 --> 00:39:38,407
GROWLING LAUGHTER
666
00:39:42,002 --> 00:39:43,977
LION ROARS
667
00:39:46,152 --> 00:39:48,431
And then a lion came in.
668
00:39:48,432 --> 00:39:50,671
I'm the Scary Lion.
669
00:39:50,672 --> 00:39:52,431
As a matter of fact,
670
00:39:52,432 --> 00:39:54,977
I'm scary around the front...
671
00:39:56,761 --> 00:39:58,927
...and I'm scary round the back!
672
00:40:03,312 --> 00:40:05,590
And what's with the northern accent?
673
00:40:05,591 --> 00:40:08,431
Come on, northerners aren't scary.
674
00:40:08,432 --> 00:40:11,921
Eventually, the scary lion
decides it's time to reveal
675
00:40:11,922 --> 00:40:13,720
his actual agenda.
676
00:40:13,721 --> 00:40:15,457
I am the Scary Lion...
677
00:40:17,761 --> 00:40:19,696
...and I'm looking for the Bear.
678
00:40:21,032 --> 00:40:24,921
I'm looking over here,
679
00:40:24,922 --> 00:40:26,736
and I'm looking over there.
680
00:40:29,042 --> 00:40:30,917
LION LAUGHS
681
00:40:32,382 --> 00:40:34,860
BEAR BABBLES
682
00:40:34,861 --> 00:40:36,301
LION LAUGHS
683
00:40:36,302 --> 00:40:39,891
It's a proper
behind the cushion moment.
684
00:40:39,892 --> 00:40:42,307
Why is this happening
on Teletubbies?
685
00:40:43,741 --> 00:40:45,971
Preschool viewers were left
to their own imaginations
686
00:40:45,972 --> 00:40:48,691
as to what may have happened next.
687
00:40:48,692 --> 00:40:51,091
Perhaps the lion caught the bear
and then,
688
00:40:51,092 --> 00:40:52,891
I don't know, tore it to shreds.
689
00:40:52,892 --> 00:40:54,251
Or did it?
690
00:40:54,252 --> 00:40:56,530
Four-year-olds went to sleep
that night wondering,
691
00:40:56,531 --> 00:40:58,691
"Did the bear survive?
What does it mean for me?
692
00:40:58,692 --> 00:41:00,277
"Will I get ripped apart by a lion?
693
00:41:01,812 --> 00:41:04,021
A backlash ensued
from angry parents,
694
00:41:04,022 --> 00:41:06,221
who took to sites like Mumsnet
to complain
695
00:41:06,222 --> 00:41:08,891
that their traumatised tots
were wetting themselves
696
00:41:08,892 --> 00:41:10,357
even more than usual.
697
00:41:11,861 --> 00:41:13,811
I can understand why
certain children found
698
00:41:13,812 --> 00:41:15,530
it to be quite nightmarish.
699
00:41:15,531 --> 00:41:18,557
It's no surprise that
a lot of parents complained.
700
00:41:23,502 --> 00:41:25,501
The story found its way
into the papers
701
00:41:25,502 --> 00:41:29,091
and led to some countries not
including the sequence at all.
702
00:41:29,092 --> 00:41:32,171
A certain generation
of American and Chinese children
703
00:41:32,172 --> 00:41:34,381
have never seen
The Lion And The Bear.
704
00:41:34,382 --> 00:41:37,501
This episode was banned in America,
and that's saying something,
705
00:41:37,502 --> 00:41:40,021
cos that's a country
where a kid can buy a gun.
706
00:41:40,022 --> 00:41:42,061
TELETUBBIES LAUGH
707
00:41:42,062 --> 00:41:46,061
And in the UK, producers were under
pressure to re-edit the episode,
708
00:41:46,062 --> 00:41:49,997
so it'd be far less scary
whenever it was repeated.
709
00:41:57,502 --> 00:41:59,691
Thanks for giving them all
nightmares, Teletubbies.
710
00:41:59,692 --> 00:42:00,891
Thanks a lot!
711
00:42:00,892 --> 00:42:02,477
LION SNARLS
712
00:42:04,942 --> 00:42:06,860
Sticky back plastic at the ready...
713
00:42:06,861 --> 00:42:08,610
Now, something completely different.
714
00:42:08,611 --> 00:42:11,581
...as we've got more
less-than-perfect Blue Peter moments
715
00:42:11,582 --> 00:42:13,891
than you can shake a stick at!
716
00:42:13,892 --> 00:42:15,277
Drops the star.
717
00:42:16,611 --> 00:42:18,251
# If you're happy
and you know it... #
718
00:42:18,252 --> 00:42:21,171
...including the time
things got real.
719
00:42:21,172 --> 00:42:24,197
If you're happy, you know it, and don't
want to get burned, clap your hands!
720
00:42:31,242 --> 00:42:34,167
MUSIC: Blue Peter theme tune
721
00:42:36,472 --> 00:42:41,191
Blue Peter has been an integral part
of children's television since 1958
722
00:42:41,192 --> 00:42:44,680
and is the longest running
children's TV show in the world,
723
00:42:44,681 --> 00:42:47,800
often achieving viewing
figures in the millions.
724
00:42:47,801 --> 00:42:51,111
Hello, and it's many happy
returns of the day to Petra.
725
00:42:51,112 --> 00:42:54,601
I mean, Blue Peter is iconic,
and it always will be to kids' TV,
726
00:42:54,602 --> 00:42:58,967
because it was basically like
a kids' TV magazine show.
727
00:43:01,392 --> 00:43:03,191
Now, something completely different.
728
00:43:03,192 --> 00:43:05,161
It was very, very wide scope,
really.
729
00:43:05,162 --> 00:43:07,321
It was a quite
extraordinary programme.
730
00:43:07,322 --> 00:43:08,550
In its heyday,
731
00:43:08,551 --> 00:43:11,880
it featured in a prime teatime
BBC one slot two clays a week,
732
00:43:11,881 --> 00:43:14,961
with kids rushing home from school
to see their favourite presenters
733
00:43:14,962 --> 00:43:16,831
taking on their latest challenges...
734
00:43:16,832 --> 00:43:18,221
Watch this.
735
00:43:18,222 --> 00:43:19,880
Oh!
736
00:43:19,881 --> 00:43:23,794
...as well as regular guest slots
and arts and crafts projects.
737
00:43:33,589 --> 00:43:35,348
We all watched Blue Peter.
738
00:43:35,349 --> 00:43:38,178
We'd all grown-up with Blue Peter.
We had a choice.
739
00:43:38,179 --> 00:43:41,338
We were either going to watch Magpie
or Blue Peter, and that was it.
740
00:43:41,339 --> 00:43:43,508
It was something that
everyone had to watch.
741
00:43:43,509 --> 00:43:44,818
It was a talking point, you know,
742
00:43:44,819 --> 00:43:48,178
they always used to go out on these
big kind of like daredevil stunts.
743
00:43:48,179 --> 00:43:49,948
It was brilliant. It was a big show.
744
00:43:49,949 --> 00:43:51,843
PRESENTERS: Oh! Oh!
745
00:43:59,309 --> 00:44:01,098
And they've got some of the most
746
00:44:01,099 --> 00:44:03,428
iconic TV presenters
have come from there.
747
00:44:03,429 --> 00:44:05,018
I mean, it's legendary.
748
00:44:05,019 --> 00:44:08,258
And it doesn't get more legendary
than these three.
749
00:44:08,259 --> 00:44:11,948
Peter Purves, Valerie Singleton
and John Noakes,
750
00:44:11,949 --> 00:44:16,228
who in 1970 decided to do a
live segment on Girl Guides,
751
00:44:16,229 --> 00:44:19,617
complete with a singalong
around an imitation fire.
752
00:44:19,618 --> 00:44:22,898
What could possibly go
horribly wrong?
753
00:44:22,899 --> 00:44:26,428
Well, this is the first time I've sat around
a campfire with about 100 Girl Guides.
754
00:44:26,429 --> 00:44:27,737
I rather like it.
755
00:44:27,738 --> 00:44:29,948
Almost the most catastrophic things
that happened
756
00:44:29,949 --> 00:44:32,464
was when we had some Girl Guides
and Brownies in the studio.
757
00:44:35,689 --> 00:44:37,928
And obviously, it was nice if
we could have children in
758
00:44:37,929 --> 00:44:40,158
as much as possible, because
they were our viewers.
759
00:44:40,159 --> 00:44:42,334
Can you sing any more songs?
ALL: Yes!
760
00:44:47,209 --> 00:44:49,517
GUITAR STRUMMING
761
00:44:49,518 --> 00:44:52,717
And it's a little sort of pretend fire,
obviously, it's got bulbs and papen
762
00:44:52,718 --> 00:44:54,928
The props guys, I think,
had set up something,
763
00:44:54,929 --> 00:44:56,573
must have been batteries
or something.
764
00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:02,693
# If you're happy and you know it
Clap your hands. #
765
00:45:03,879 --> 00:45:06,568
And it was one of those kind of
cute Blue Peter moments.
766
00:45:06,569 --> 00:45:09,847
# If you're happy and you know it
Stamp your feet. #
767
00:45:09,848 --> 00:45:12,688
And I'm thinking, "Gosh,
that's quite realistic smoke."
768
00:45:12,689 --> 00:45:15,958
# If you're happy and you know it
Slap your thighs. #
769
00:45:15,959 --> 00:45:18,573
Some paper must go on one of the
bulbs and it starts to smoke.
770
00:45:22,049 --> 00:45:25,068
# If you're happy and you know it
Slap your thighs
771
00:45:25,069 --> 00:45:27,328
# If you're happy and you know it
Say "we are"
772
00:45:27,329 --> 00:45:28,517
# We are. #
773
00:45:28,518 --> 00:45:30,544
As we're singing, the
flames are getting higher.
774
00:45:32,929 --> 00:45:35,078
# If you're happy and you know it
Say "we are"
775
00:45:35,079 --> 00:45:36,488
# We are. #
776
00:45:36,489 --> 00:45:38,928
And there was no way it was
real flames to start with.
777
00:45:38,929 --> 00:45:40,664
Something had obviously caught fire.
778
00:45:43,159 --> 00:45:44,767
# If you're happy and you know it
779
00:45:44,768 --> 00:45:46,408
# Then you surely ought to show it
780
00:45:46,409 --> 00:45:48,568
# If you're happy and you know it
Say "we are"
781
00:45:48,569 --> 00:45:49,743
# We are. #
782
00:45:54,359 --> 00:45:58,208
# If you're happy and you know it
Do all five
783
00:45:58,209 --> 00:45:59,544
# We are. #
784
00:46:04,718 --> 00:46:07,497
The kids at that stage will were
looking quite scared.
785
00:46:07,498 --> 00:46:10,334
# If you're happy and you know it
then you surely ought to show it. #
786
00:46:11,929 --> 00:46:13,774
# If you're happy and you know it
Do all five. #
787
00:46:15,049 --> 00:46:18,104
"If you're happy, you know it, and don't
want to get burned, clap your hands! Ah!"
788
00:46:19,359 --> 00:46:20,847
# We are! #
789
00:46:20,848 --> 00:46:23,238
I don't know what those uniforms
were like, but maybe they were...
790
00:46:23,239 --> 00:46:25,158
...you know, they could have been
quite flammable.
791
00:46:25,159 --> 00:46:28,384
So if somebody had caught fire, it could
have been a really, really nasty incident.
792
00:46:32,049 --> 00:46:35,664
We're on fire! We're on fire,
so... Let's get the firemen in!
793
00:46:42,518 --> 00:46:46,078
FIRE EXTINGUISHER HISSES LOUDLY
794
00:46:46,079 --> 00:46:48,688
If you noticed I'm there, sort
of like, "Oh, what's going on?"
795
00:46:48,689 --> 00:46:50,278
with my arms across my chest.
796
00:46:50,279 --> 00:46:53,208
Oh, I think we've won in the end!
Never mind...
797
00:46:53,209 --> 00:46:56,128
That
was terrific, thank you very much.
798
00:46:56,129 --> 00:46:59,517
Yes, thank you very
much.
799
00:46:59,518 --> 00:47:02,693
Desperately trying to brave it out,
as we did when things went wrong.
800
00:47:09,439 --> 00:47:12,078
Those singers have actually
made a marvellous song
801
00:47:12,079 --> 00:47:14,438
called Sing Along With The Guides,
and I can promise you,
802
00:47:14,439 --> 00:47:16,637
the record won't go up in flames.
It won't, no!
803
00:47:16,638 --> 00:47:19,238
You had to carry on. I mean,
we couldn't dash out of the studio
804
00:47:19,239 --> 00:47:20,967
and go, "Fire! Fire!
Quick, get out!"
805
00:47:20,968 --> 00:47:22,847
We had to sort of pretend
it was all OK
806
00:47:22,848 --> 00:47:24,304
and everything was under control.
807
00:47:25,768 --> 00:47:27,894
LOUD HISSING
808
00:47:29,079 --> 00:47:31,918
John Noakes is doing that sort of
typical, "Oh, what fun that was!
809
00:47:31,919 --> 00:47:34,778
"Oh, it nearly all went wrong,
we nearly burnt the brownies!"
810
00:47:34,779 --> 00:47:37,613
As if this was just another
day in the office.
811
00:47:40,409 --> 00:47:43,608
If we haven't burned down,
we hope to be back next Thursday.
812
00:47:43,609 --> 00:47:46,048
We'll be having the latest news
from Dad's Army!
813
00:47:46,049 --> 00:47:47,573
"Have a good one, kids, bye-bye."
814
00:47:52,329 --> 00:47:55,878
And it was that, the fact that it
could be hari-kari going on behind you,
815
00:47:55,879 --> 00:47:59,878
but we're not going
to react to it at all.
816
00:47:59,879 --> 00:48:02,637
Bye- bye.
817
00:48:02,638 --> 00:48:04,158
MUSIC: Blue Peter theme tune
818
00:48:04,159 --> 00:48:05,664
It all ended happily.
819
00:48:07,329 --> 00:48:09,967
In August of that year,
things started to hot up for Val
820
00:48:09,968 --> 00:48:13,967
when she was sent with the boys
to the deserts of Morocco.
821
00:48:13,968 --> 00:48:16,438
Everyone had warned us about
the heat in southern Morocco
822
00:48:16,439 --> 00:48:17,967
during the month of August.
823
00:48:17,968 --> 00:48:20,878
On this day, we knew that
it was at least 120 degrees,
824
00:48:20,879 --> 00:48:23,078
because that was as high
as our thermometer went,
825
00:48:23,079 --> 00:48:25,254
and the mercury was
right to the top.
826
00:48:29,718 --> 00:48:31,558
Then, of course,
in came the summer films,
827
00:48:31,559 --> 00:48:34,128
when we would go off for three weeks
to some wonderful country.
828
00:48:34,129 --> 00:48:38,128
Sometimes things don't entirely
go the way they're planned,
829
00:48:38,129 --> 00:48:40,048
especially on foreign trips.
830
00:48:40,049 --> 00:48:42,798
John Noakes, Pete Purves
and Valerie Singleton
831
00:48:42,799 --> 00:48:45,493
go to the desert
and they see some camels.
832
00:48:51,079 --> 00:48:53,608
When you see a camel,
what do you want to do?
833
00:48:53,609 --> 00:48:55,128
I want to get on the camel!
834
00:48:55,129 --> 00:48:59,208
INDISTINCT CONVERSATION
835
00:48:59,209 --> 00:49:02,128
So they go over and they
talk to the camel owner.
836
00:49:02,129 --> 00:49:04,414
Does he talk English? Nope.
837
00:49:17,598 --> 00:49:19,778
Have they got a translator? Nope.
838
00:49:19,779 --> 00:49:22,464
Can we go? Yes?
839
00:49:24,638 --> 00:49:25,974
Yeah, Val, we can.
840
00:49:34,768 --> 00:49:36,164
CAMEL GROANS
841
00:49:42,689 --> 00:49:45,158
And unfortunately,
they are not in sync.
842
00:49:45,159 --> 00:49:49,534
And it turns out to be really
pretty dangerous for Valerie.
843
00:49:54,638 --> 00:49:56,493
SHOUTING
844
00:50:08,129 --> 00:50:10,558
I don't know, this seems to be
my year for falling off things.
845
00:50:10,559 --> 00:50:13,558
I suppose, if I fall off a horse,
I might as well fall off a camel.
846
00:50:13,559 --> 00:50:15,048
Trouble is, it's a bit higher.
847
00:50:15,049 --> 00:50:16,637
I loved it when things went wrong,
848
00:50:16,638 --> 00:50:18,717
cos you could then come off script.
849
00:50:18,718 --> 00:50:21,717
You know, you would then...you had
to sort of rely on your own
850
00:50:21,718 --> 00:50:23,998
kind of capabilities
to get out of it.
851
00:50:23,999 --> 00:50:27,384
I'm going to leave you two to have a
go on your own. I'll see you later.
852
00:50:38,439 --> 00:50:39,847
It's chaos. It's chaos.
853
00:50:39,848 --> 00:50:41,134
But it's beautiful.
854
00:50:49,848 --> 00:50:51,943
And I think they think
they're beautiful.
855
00:50:55,518 --> 00:50:57,488
I mean, that's part of
being a good presenter,
856
00:50:57,489 --> 00:50:59,584
that you can get
through things like that.
857
00:51:03,768 --> 00:51:06,847
The job of a Blue Peter presenter
is a much-envied one.
858
00:51:06,848 --> 00:51:10,774
They're given the opportunity to do
things that mere mortals can only dream of.
859
00:51:14,439 --> 00:51:17,767
One such occasion was
Christmas 2011,
860
00:51:17,768 --> 00:51:21,048
when regular presenter Andy,
now known as Ayo, was tasked with
861
00:51:21,049 --> 00:51:23,854
putting the star on top of
the tree in Trafalgar Square.
862
00:51:25,689 --> 00:51:27,438
Christmas is nearing.
863
00:51:27,439 --> 00:51:29,998
I think we were about two weeks
away from Christmas.
864
00:51:29,999 --> 00:51:34,248
Every year, of course, the Christmas
tree would arrive from Norway.
865
00:51:34,249 --> 00:51:35,878
Not just that, it's like, you know,
866
00:51:35,879 --> 00:51:38,517
there's a big star that goes on top.
So beautiful.
867
00:51:38,518 --> 00:51:42,767
This is the most famous Christmas
tree in the whole of the UK.
868
00:51:42,768 --> 00:51:46,798
To be asked to put the Christmas
star on the Christmas tree
869
00:51:46,799 --> 00:51:52,428
that comes in once a year
from Norway is a big deal.
870
00:51:52,429 --> 00:51:55,328
Well, this one has been lighting
trees on Trafalgar Square
871
00:51:55,329 --> 00:51:56,987
for the past ten years.
872
00:51:56,988 --> 00:51:59,348
I think it's time to put it
in its rightful place.
873
00:51:59,349 --> 00:52:03,018
Already you're thinking to yourself,
"This is a special star.
874
00:52:03,019 --> 00:52:04,914
"Be careful with that star, man."
875
00:52:08,538 --> 00:52:12,458
He's got the star, goes to
put it on the top of the tree...
876
00:52:12,459 --> 00:52:14,737
One thing we forgot.
We didn't ask them
877
00:52:14,738 --> 00:52:17,428
how to attach the star
onto the tree.
878
00:52:17,429 --> 00:52:20,578
I made it 25 metres up, with
a little help from the crane.
879
00:52:20,579 --> 00:52:22,787
Putting the star on top
would be the easy part...
880
00:52:22,788 --> 00:52:24,098
Here goes.
881
00:52:24,099 --> 00:52:25,794
...or at least, it should have been!
882
00:52:33,019 --> 00:52:35,508
I couldn't even twist it,
883
00:52:35,509 --> 00:52:37,508
and it just fell.
884
00:52:37,509 --> 00:52:39,657
7O feet.
885
00:52:39,658 --> 00:52:41,298
CRASH
886
00:52:41,299 --> 00:52:42,684
Oh, my God.
887
00:52:44,379 --> 00:52:45,623
ECHOING: N0!
888
00:52:47,179 --> 00:52:48,628
Oh, my goodness.
889
00:52:48,629 --> 00:52:50,378
I've actually just dropped the star.
890
00:52:50,379 --> 00:52:52,298
He drops the star.
891
00:52:52,299 --> 00:52:54,578
He drops the star,
892
00:52:54,579 --> 00:52:56,124
He drops it!
893
00:53:00,019 --> 00:53:01,268
CRASH
894
00:53:01,269 --> 00:53:03,148
I mean, I'm reliving it now.
This is trauma.
895
00:53:03,149 --> 00:53:04,268
Oh, my God.
896
00:53:04,269 --> 00:53:06,274
Imagine the mortification!
897
00:53:07,658 --> 00:53:09,907
Oh, no! Did that just happen?
898
00:53:09,908 --> 00:53:11,537
I suppose they're going to kill me.
899
00:53:11,538 --> 00:53:14,298
There's nothing you can do
because he's on a cherry picker
900
00:53:14,299 --> 00:53:16,484
and it's now crashing
towards the floor.
901
00:53:19,538 --> 00:53:21,818
I mean, one didn't hear a
terrible yelp from down below,
902
00:53:21,819 --> 00:53:23,298
so presumably it was OK.
903
00:53:23,299 --> 00:53:25,787
But his face is just wonderful
as he turns to the camera, goes,
904
00:53:25,788 --> 00:53:27,498
"l've dropped the star."
905
00:53:27,499 --> 00:53:29,818
Oh, my goodness.
906
00:53:29,819 --> 00:53:32,378
I've actually just dropped the star.
907
00:53:32,379 --> 00:53:33,818
Oh, no.
908
00:53:33,819 --> 00:53:37,458
What no-one saw
was the amount of swearing
909
00:53:37,459 --> 00:53:39,763
that happened after
I dropped that star.
910
00:53:42,538 --> 00:53:44,268
"L've just dropped that f...ing
$tar!"
911
00:53:44,269 --> 00:53:46,578
just like, "Oh, no!"
just like... "Fuck!"
912
00:53:46,579 --> 00:53:49,124
Oh, man, I'm so happy that
isn't smashed even more.
913
00:53:51,099 --> 00:53:54,578
What else would they do but put it
together with sticky back plastic?
914
00:53:54,579 --> 00:53:56,787
Are you going to trust me to put it
back up there?
915
00:53:56,788 --> 00:53:59,352
There we go.
916
00:53:59,353 --> 00:54:02,686
Repair the star, get it on,
no-one will notice!
917
00:54:07,192 --> 00:54:09,710
"If you fuck this up again, we just
don't have the patience to do it."
918
00:54:09,711 --> 00:54:12,991
I was like, "All right, I'm really sorry.
I'll take it seriously this time. Sorry."
919
00:54:12,992 --> 00:54:15,601
Second time lucky,
and with trembling hands,
920
00:54:15,602 --> 00:54:18,271
I managed to do what
I had come here to do.
921
00:54:18,272 --> 00:54:21,151
Oh, my goodne... I mean, that
will be in the blooper reel
922
00:54:21,152 --> 00:54:22,960
forever. Forever.
923
00:54:22,961 --> 00:54:26,321
Who would like to see a Blue Peter
presenter drop a star at a Christmas tree?
924
00:54:26,322 --> 00:54:27,830
"Me, me, me, me!"
925
00:54:27,831 --> 00:54:29,097
Bang! Oh...
926
00:54:31,072 --> 00:54:32,217
CRASH
927
00:54:37,042 --> 00:54:39,247
It's like a...an heirloom, innit?
928
00:54:40,912 --> 00:54:42,121
But he dropped it.
929
00:54:42,122 --> 00:54:44,991
And that is what I'll be known for,
for the rest of my life.
930
00:54:44,992 --> 00:54:47,191
Dropping this bloody star!
931
00:54:47,192 --> 00:54:49,327
Should have taken it a bit
more seriously, shouldn't I?
932
00:54:53,912 --> 00:54:56,791
Outside the BBC Studios
and Television Centre,
933
00:54:56,792 --> 00:54:59,241
the programme had its own
educational garden,
934
00:54:59,242 --> 00:55:02,791
lovingly nurtured by the
horticulturalist Percy Thrower.
935
00:55:02,792 --> 00:55:05,121
The Blue Peter Garden
was an institution.
936
00:55:05,122 --> 00:55:09,856
There are three or four
important gardens in the UK, um...
937
00:55:11,552 --> 00:55:13,151
...Buckingham Palace Gardens,
938
00:55:13,152 --> 00:55:14,830
Kew Gardens.
939
00:55:14,831 --> 00:55:17,830
But I would say that the most
important garden in the UK
940
00:55:17,831 --> 00:55:19,401
is the Blue Peter Garden.
941
00:55:19,402 --> 00:55:21,760
In 1983, the garden was the setting
942
00:55:21,761 --> 00:55:25,401
for one of the most significant
moments in the programme's history.
943
00:55:25,402 --> 00:55:27,601
We've got some rather bad news,
I'm afraid.
944
00:55:27,602 --> 00:55:31,151
Imagine my surprise when
I turn on the TV one day,
945
00:55:31,152 --> 00:55:34,087
and they're all looking...stony
faced.
946
00:55:35,792 --> 00:55:37,601
And I thought, "Oh, the dog's died."
947
00:55:37,602 --> 00:55:39,241
Wasn't the dog.
948
00:55:39,242 --> 00:55:40,791
It was the Blue Peter Garden.
949
00:55:40,792 --> 00:55:43,401
Vandals broke into
the Blue Peter Garden
950
00:55:43,402 --> 00:55:45,271
and caused rather a lot of damage.
951
00:55:45,272 --> 00:55:48,151
My parents, etc,
they remember this moment of
952
00:55:48,152 --> 00:55:50,736
the Blue Peter Garden
being vandalised.
953
00:55:52,511 --> 00:55:54,601
And one really cruel thing they did
954
00:55:54,602 --> 00:55:57,351
was to pour fuel oil
into the fish pond.
955
00:55:57,352 --> 00:55:59,991
Well, we've drained the pond and
we've rescued some of the fish,
956
00:55:59,992 --> 00:56:01,431
but a few of them have died,
957
00:56:01,432 --> 00:56:03,681
and the oil itself has
caused a lot of damage.
958
00:56:03,682 --> 00:56:05,087
It was absolutely shocking.
959
00:56:07,342 --> 00:56:10,267
Well, it's not a pretty sight,
is it, what they did, Percy?
960
00:56:14,981 --> 00:56:18,181
It's very sad to think that
a few people take such pleasure
961
00:56:18,182 --> 00:56:20,131
from harming their
fellow human beings
962
00:56:20,132 --> 00:56:21,956
and from hurting animals, as well.
963
00:56:29,262 --> 00:56:32,091
I think that was awful, and I think a
lot of people got very upset by that.
964
00:56:32,092 --> 00:56:33,931
A lot of viewers got very upset
by that,
965
00:56:33,932 --> 00:56:36,701
as indeed did the presenters
who were involved at the time.
966
00:56:36,702 --> 00:56:38,267
Horrible, awful thing to do.
967
00:56:41,531 --> 00:56:43,011
And here are the survivors.
968
00:56:43,012 --> 00:56:45,451
It really is an absolute miracle
that they have survived.
969
00:56:45,452 --> 00:56:47,371
Brian has come along to
give us a bit of advice.
970
00:56:47,372 --> 00:56:50,650
Brian, what do you think of them after
the awful ordeal that they've been through?
971
00:56:50,651 --> 00:56:52,267
I think they're looking
amazingly well.
972
00:57:00,172 --> 00:57:03,980
17 years on, it seems there might
be a breakthrough in the affair.
973
00:57:03,981 --> 00:57:07,171
And then it turns out that
Les Ferdinand stuck his hand up
974
00:57:07,172 --> 00:57:09,650
and said, "l helped someone
over the wall."
975
00:57:09,651 --> 00:57:12,421
And the thing is,
I found myself laughing.
976
00:57:12,422 --> 00:57:14,650
As a child,
I found myself laughing.
977
00:57:14,651 --> 00:57:17,770
Ferdinand later claimed
his comments were just a joke,
978
00:57:17,771 --> 00:57:20,621
so the identity of the vandals
remains a mystery.
979
00:57:20,622 --> 00:57:23,900
I'm not saying it's not,
you know, a serious event,
980
00:57:23,901 --> 00:57:27,706
but they certainly hyped up
the drama.
981
00:57:39,292 --> 00:57:42,621
Still to come:
It's time for kids on TV...
982
00:57:42,622 --> 00:57:44,931
He really likes that TV monitor.
983
00:57:44,932 --> 00:57:49,850
...things get out of hand with one
mischievous toddler on BBC News...
984
00:57:49,851 --> 00:57:52,980
And Bill and Louise are thinking,
"Let it end!"
985
00:57:52,981 --> 00:57:55,701
...and it's all going down...
986
00:57:55,702 --> 00:57:58,037
...on a kid's TV talent
show in New Zealand.
987
00:58:01,342 --> 00:58:03,427
Faints out of shot.
988
00:58:11,612 --> 00:58:13,840
Occasionally, even news shows
for grown-ups
989
00:58:13,841 --> 00:58:17,041
will include segments or items
that involve kids.
990
00:58:17,042 --> 00:58:18,760
And you're live in seven.
991
00:58:18,761 --> 00:58:21,640
This is Breakfast with Bill
Turnbull and Louise Minchin.
992
00:58:21,641 --> 00:58:23,890
That was certainly true for
BBC Breakfast,
993
00:58:23,891 --> 00:58:27,041
when four-year-old Harry Maceachen
came into the studio
994
00:58:27,042 --> 00:58:29,457
for a feature with his mum Clare.
995
00:58:34,282 --> 00:58:36,840
Presenters Bill and Louise
wanted to talk to Clare
996
00:58:36,841 --> 00:58:39,481
about the success of Harry's
liver transplant,
997
00:58:39,482 --> 00:58:43,281
and to highlight the importance
of organ donation.
998
00:58:43,282 --> 00:58:46,611
Harry was born with the liver
disease biliary atresia,
999
00:58:46,612 --> 00:58:49,890
which is very rare. It affects
about one in 12,000 babies,
1000
00:58:49,891 --> 00:58:53,531
and it's basically that they're born
with blocked bile ducts. Mm-hm.
1001
00:58:53,532 --> 00:58:56,587
Sweetheart... He's looking at
himself inside the telly.
1002
00:58:59,971 --> 00:59:02,720
Very sadly, this...this liver
needs...needs to be replaced.
1003
00:59:02,721 --> 00:59:04,257
HARRY LAUGHS
1004
00:59:05,532 --> 00:59:08,616
And... He's just spotted himself
on the telly. Yeah.
1005
00:59:12,332 --> 00:59:14,481
If he hadn't received his liver
transplant,
1006
00:59:14,482 --> 00:59:15,970
he probably wouldn't be here,
1007
00:59:15,971 --> 00:59:18,681
laughing away, enjoying himself!
1008
00:59:18,682 --> 00:59:20,171
He does what you should do,
you know,
1009
00:59:20,172 --> 00:59:22,866
pull faces at himself,
laugh at himself!
1010
00:59:24,612 --> 00:59:27,611
How does it work? Has it been
well accepted, do you know?
1011
00:59:27,612 --> 00:59:30,451
I think so, from what I understand.
I don't know...
1012
00:59:30,452 --> 00:59:33,281
I don't remember the science...
Do you want to go over there, Harry?
1013
00:59:33,282 --> 00:59:35,481
Go and say hello.
Oh, Tracy's going to look after you.
1014
00:59:35,482 --> 00:59:37,307
There you go, Harry.
Go and sit next to Tracy.
1015
00:59:39,812 --> 00:59:42,431
Tracy's going to catch him.
Sorry! She's going to catch him...
1016
00:59:42,432 --> 00:59:45,171
Um, just tell us a little bit
about... Oh.
1017
00:59:45,172 --> 00:59:47,531
Tracy's obviously someone
on the floor, thinks,
1018
00:59:47,532 --> 00:59:50,866
"Hang on, I don't want to look after
a four-year-old who's going wild!"
1019
00:59:54,641 --> 00:59:56,946
I wanted you talking about
what it is like, waiting.
1020
01:00:00,062 --> 01:00:03,760
Classic Tracy, never around when you
need her. Tracy, where are you?!
1021
01:00:03,761 --> 01:00:06,357
And I'm just going to wait
till he's safely with Tracy.
1022
01:00:09,812 --> 01:00:12,611
I've got a funny feeling that was
Tracy's last day.
1023
01:00:12,612 --> 01:00:14,811
We'll talk to you about that
on other occasion.
1024
01:00:14,812 --> 01:00:17,321
Thank you very much indeed.
Let's leave that there.
1025
01:00:17,322 --> 01:00:20,561
They just went, "Do you know what?
We'lljust drop the story and go to
1026
01:00:20,562 --> 01:00:22,121
"something else we can control."
1027
01:00:22,122 --> 01:00:23,760
We're going to talk about broadband.
1028
01:00:23,761 --> 01:00:26,720
Access to high-speed Internet
service is increasingly important
1029
01:00:26,721 --> 01:00:28,227
for both our work and social lives.
1030
01:00:33,812 --> 01:00:36,251
And Bill and Louise are thinking,
"Let it end!"
1031
01:00:36,252 --> 01:00:38,720
Let's have this report, shall we?
1032
01:00:38,721 --> 01:00:42,657
The next item was child-free -
er, hopefully.
1033
01:00:44,322 --> 01:00:47,257
No, it hasn't! I can still hear him,
he's still in the studio.
1034
01:00:48,641 --> 01:00:51,640
Whilst Harry's headline-hitting
antics meant that things had gone
1035
01:00:51,641 --> 01:00:54,391
horribly wrong for
the presenters and producers,
1036
01:00:54,392 --> 01:00:57,071
the public, on the other hand,
took a more positive view
1037
01:00:57,072 --> 01:00:58,107
of the studio mayhem.
1038
01:00:59,292 --> 01:01:03,706
This interview is just hijacked
by a small boy.
1039
01:01:05,082 --> 01:01:08,237
The kid proves he's definitely
fully recovered.
1040
01:01:10,412 --> 01:01:12,597
HARRY GIGGLES
1041
01:01:14,851 --> 01:01:19,571
Down in New Zealand, they like to
start their performing talent young.
1042
01:01:19,572 --> 01:01:22,980
So, what better way to give the kids
a taste of the Kiwi big-time
1043
01:01:22,981 --> 01:01:26,181
than a talent segment
on the breakfast news show?
1044
01:01:26,182 --> 01:01:30,261
Here, TV3's Sunrise programme has
lined up two young wannabes,
1045
01:01:30,262 --> 01:01:34,571
Sam and Hannah, in their
Five Minutes of Fame slot.
1046
01:01:34,572 --> 01:01:38,621
Five Minutes of Fame
to warm the nation's heart.
1047
01:01:38,622 --> 01:01:41,211
You know, grandmother's probably
recording it at home.
1048
01:01:41,212 --> 01:01:43,541
We do have Hannah and Sam
right here.
1049
01:01:43,542 --> 01:01:45,261
They're about to sing a song for us.
1050
01:01:45,262 --> 01:01:47,181
It is a bit of a midwinter
Christmas theme.
1051
01:01:47,182 --> 01:01:49,107
They're going to be singing
"O Holy Night".
1052
01:01:53,721 --> 01:01:54,696
Take it away.
1053
01:01:59,052 --> 01:02:00,597
Any moment now.
HE CHUCKLES
1054
01:02:02,082 --> 01:02:05,467
MUSIC: O Holy Night
1055
01:02:21,052 --> 01:02:23,491
He starts to look a little bit
peaky, but you're thinking,
1056
01:02:23,492 --> 01:02:25,411
"Maybe it's part of the act,"
you know?
1057
01:02:25,412 --> 01:02:26,987
"Maybe it's a little smoulder."
1058
01:02:29,212 --> 01:02:31,347
And then, suddenly,
he hits the deck.
1059
01:02:37,262 --> 01:02:39,696
And he gets up, and then -
is he going to be all right?
1060
01:02:43,332 --> 01:02:45,511
No, he's not. Down he goes again.
1061
01:02:45,512 --> 01:02:47,327
Faints out of shot...
1062
01:02:51,292 --> 01:02:53,181
HE GASPS
"Finally, my big moment!
1063
01:02:53,182 --> 01:02:55,057
"L've been trying to go
solo for years."
1064
01:02:58,492 --> 01:03:00,291
Sorry, we're going to have
to stop it there.
1065
01:03:00,292 --> 01:03:01,626
We will be back in half an hour.
1066
01:03:04,462 --> 01:03:07,491
I think he's actually had a little
bit, er, of an accident there.
1067
01:03:07,492 --> 01:03:10,261
That's OK. Look after him, josh,
and we'll see you in half an hour.
1068
01:03:10,262 --> 01:03:12,417
Yup.
1069
01:03:15,542 --> 01:03:19,571
"Tune in, 9.00, I'll be on
the telly, Five Minutes of Fame."
1070
01:03:19,572 --> 01:03:22,331
That kid's five minutes of fame
didn't really last five minutes.
1071
01:03:22,332 --> 01:03:24,970
It didn't really last five seconds -
I think it took about
1072
01:03:24,971 --> 01:03:27,387
three-and-a-half for him
to fall to the ground.
1073
01:03:35,631 --> 01:03:38,011
Yes, Sam at least did find fame.
1074
01:03:38,012 --> 01:03:42,606
After his big hit went viral,
he got an impressive 100,000 views.
1075
01:03:43,822 --> 01:03:46,650
You've become famous because
you've absolutely decked it
1076
01:03:46,651 --> 01:03:49,261
on national television. Poor guy!
1077
01:03:49,262 --> 01:03:52,100
What a disaster for that poor boy.
1078
01:03:52,101 --> 01:03:53,626
And Hannah.
SHE CHUCKLES
1079
01:03:54,822 --> 01:03:57,157
But there was some good news.
1080
01:04:00,262 --> 01:04:03,850
After a sugary tea,
Sam was able to sing -
1081
01:04:03,851 --> 01:04:05,361
sort of.
1082
01:04:05,362 --> 01:04:07,931
It's got a kind of happy ending
in that Sam and Hannah
1083
01:04:07,932 --> 01:04:09,537
did get a second chance at this.
1084
01:04:13,121 --> 01:04:15,381
Well, look at that,
got back on the horse, Sam.
1085
01:04:15,382 --> 01:04:17,281
Well done, that's fantastic.
1086
01:04:17,282 --> 01:04:18,631
THEY CLAP
1087
01:04:18,632 --> 01:04:20,351
All's well that ended well.
1088
01:04:20,352 --> 01:04:22,120
But it did have a very ropey middle.
1089
01:04:22,121 --> 01:04:23,096
HE LAUGHS
1090
01:04:25,312 --> 01:04:28,481
As a reporter on American local
news, you know you've pulled the
1091
01:04:28,482 --> 01:04:32,201
short straw if you get sent off to
the county fair to find the story.
1092
01:04:32,202 --> 01:04:34,841
You always feel bad for the
presenter that's been sent out to
1093
01:04:34,842 --> 01:04:37,431
the county fair to go and get
some of the atmosphere.
1094
01:04:37,432 --> 01:04:39,481
Because really,
what are you going to get?
1095
01:04:39,482 --> 01:04:42,151
You'lljust get some kid
eating candyfloss.
1096
01:04:42,152 --> 01:04:45,481
When Sofia Ojeda chose to interview
five-year-old Noah Ritter
1097
01:04:45,482 --> 01:04:47,311
for a family news bulletin,
1098
01:04:47,312 --> 01:04:49,870
she can't have expected much.
1099
01:04:49,871 --> 01:04:53,790
Young Noah is at the
Wilkes-Barre County Fair.
1100
01:04:53,791 --> 01:04:55,487
What did you think about the ride?
1101
01:05:01,762 --> 01:05:04,381
But then, he sort of grabs the mic
and holds the mic himself.
1102
01:05:04,382 --> 01:05:05,870
She surrendered the microphone.
1103
01:05:05,871 --> 01:05:08,790
They say, "Never surrender
your microphone".
1104
01:05:08,791 --> 01:05:11,561
She hands it over to Noah,
and Noah's doing pieces to camera.
1105
01:05:11,562 --> 01:05:13,607
You know, he's off down there.
1106
01:05:25,482 --> 01:05:30,231
You're like, "Whoa, he's trying to
impersonate a news presenter here."
1107
01:05:30,232 --> 01:05:33,537
Not just that - he's saying it with
some serious murderous authority.
1108
01:05:37,671 --> 01:05:40,951
Noah's five years old,
and loves the word "apparently".
1109
01:05:40,952 --> 01:05:44,071
Apparently he uses the word
"apparently" many times
1110
01:05:44,072 --> 01:05:45,766
during a two-minute interview.
1111
01:05:52,921 --> 01:05:54,431
"L can't handle this situation.
1112
01:05:54,432 --> 01:05:56,920
"So, l'lljust use the word
'apparently' completely out of
1113
01:05:56,921 --> 01:05:59,920
"context and about 18 times in
the space of two seconds."
1114
01:05:59,921 --> 01:06:02,650
Tell me about the ride.
What did you think about the ride?
1115
01:06:02,651 --> 01:06:04,537
Why?
1116
01:06:06,072 --> 01:06:09,247
He kind of rolls around the Rs
of the apparently.
1117
01:06:10,352 --> 01:06:12,511
IMITATING NOAH: Apparently.
1118
01:06:12,512 --> 01:06:14,231
Apparently.
1119
01:06:14,232 --> 01:06:16,761
Apparently, I should use that word
if I ever get to be live
1120
01:06:16,762 --> 01:06:17,817
on a news channel.
1121
01:06:20,512 --> 01:06:23,357
Yeah?
1122
01:06:25,432 --> 01:06:26,951
Which he currently is - apparently.
1123
01:06:26,952 --> 01:06:29,271
That's the thing, you've got
to reckon the situation.
1124
01:06:29,272 --> 01:06:32,071
You've got to make sure you know
your contributors, don't just go all
1125
01:06:32,072 --> 01:06:34,711
wild out, cos that kid got way more
screentime than he deserved.
1126
01:06:34,712 --> 01:06:38,096
Because honestly,
that kid scares the hell out of me.
1127
01:06:44,842 --> 01:06:48,021
What weirds me out about this kid
is the way he's standing
1128
01:06:48,022 --> 01:06:49,951
like a 56-year-old body-builder.
1129
01:06:49,952 --> 01:06:51,407
His stance is like this.
1130
01:06:57,911 --> 01:07:01,761
I have a feeling Noah went back
for more later on.
1131
01:07:01,762 --> 01:07:02,990
I really do.
1132
01:07:02,991 --> 01:07:05,431
She wants to look out for her job,
that presenter.
1133
01:07:05,432 --> 01:07:09,311
Turns out the kid didn't even want
to be a news presenter in the end.
1134
01:07:09,312 --> 01:07:12,351
Just wanted to be a palaeontologist.
1135
01:07:12,352 --> 01:07:13,537
Apparently.
1136
01:07:18,562 --> 01:07:21,561
Another example of a new show
swerving the serious stuff for
1137
01:07:21,562 --> 01:07:25,040
something with more appeal for the
kids was Australian Channel Nine's
1138
01:07:25,041 --> 01:07:29,711
morning programme The Today Show,
hosted by Karl Stefanovic.
1139
01:07:29,712 --> 01:07:30,870
You're in Australia.
1140
01:07:30,871 --> 01:07:33,711
Where do you head to
for an outside broadcast?
1141
01:07:33,712 --> 01:07:36,457
Down the beach...
to the surfing competition.
1142
01:07:40,911 --> 01:07:44,561
Today's live link is with Sabre
Norris, the 11-year-old daughter
1143
01:07:44,562 --> 01:07:47,511
of Olympic medal-winning swimmer
Justin Norris,
1144
01:07:47,512 --> 01:07:51,151
Sabre's about to become one of
the youngest-ever competitors
1145
01:07:51,152 --> 01:07:54,951
in a national surf league under
the mentorship of legendary pro
1146
01:07:54,952 --> 01:07:55,927
Sally Fitzgibbons.
1147
01:07:57,791 --> 01:08:01,660
I can't believe, out all the girls
in the world, she's chosen me.
1148
01:08:01,661 --> 01:08:06,071
I feel really excited,
but I'm also a little bit nervous.
1149
01:08:06,072 --> 01:08:08,841
It feels like - sometimes I feel
like I'm going to vomit,
1150
01:08:08,842 --> 01:08:09,846
when I get nervous.
1151
01:08:13,272 --> 01:08:14,401
Too much information.
1152
01:08:14,402 --> 01:08:15,910
Even if I get last -
1153
01:08:15,911 --> 01:08:19,790
they're going to do a $250
prize money for last.
1154
01:08:19,791 --> 01:08:22,841
And I really would want to
spend it on doughnuts.
1155
01:08:22,842 --> 01:08:23,870
PRESENTER LAUGHS
1156
01:08:23,871 --> 01:08:26,071
SLOWLY:
1157
01:08:26,072 --> 01:08:27,870
It's classic kids.
1158
01:08:27,871 --> 01:08:30,567
But maybe she could've been
prepped a little bit?
1159
01:08:35,842 --> 01:08:37,631
Yeah, my dad was an athlete.
1160
01:08:37,632 --> 01:08:39,631
But now, he's, erm, pretty fat.
1161
01:08:39,632 --> 01:08:40,990
PRESENTERS LAUGH
1162
01:08:40,991 --> 01:08:45,040
He used to eat, like, two litres
of ice cream every single night.
1163
01:08:45,041 --> 01:08:47,990
LAUGHTER CONTINUES
Like the salted caramel ones.
1164
01:08:47,991 --> 01:08:51,120
Not really the surf tips we were
hoping for over breakfast.
1165
01:08:51,121 --> 01:08:53,631
And then, he used to get
really angry at Mum,
1166
01:08:53,632 --> 01:08:55,966
because Mum didn't always
buy it for him.
1167
01:08:58,952 --> 01:09:00,591
But, when Dad got really angry,
1168
01:09:00,592 --> 01:09:03,607
Mum started buying it for him
all the time.
1169
01:09:08,272 --> 01:09:10,870
She's giving away way too much.
1170
01:09:10,871 --> 01:09:12,790
I mean, they could have a lawsuit
on their hands,
1171
01:09:12,791 --> 01:09:14,401
if she says something libellous.
1172
01:09:14,402 --> 01:09:18,116
And then, he had to suck his gut in
for photos, and it was really funny.
1173
01:09:24,131 --> 01:09:26,050
And they want to stop it but,
at the same time,
1174
01:09:26,051 --> 01:09:27,586
they just can't help but laugh.
1175
01:09:29,281 --> 01:09:33,019
He's actually lost 20kg
since Christmas. Oh.
1176
01:09:33,020 --> 01:09:35,889
Because he's seen me eating
so healthy, because I've been
1177
01:09:35,890 --> 01:09:37,849
inspired by Sally.
1178
01:09:37,850 --> 01:09:40,050
So, now he's just eating cucumbers.
1179
01:09:40,051 --> 01:09:43,050
It's cucumber-flavoured ice cream,
actually. But hey, same thing.
1180
01:09:43,051 --> 01:09:45,530
And he was, like,
105 since Christmas.
1181
01:09:45,531 --> 01:09:48,256
And now, he's like 81. Wow! Whoa!
1182
01:09:49,770 --> 01:09:53,610
Good news! My dad's lost weight,
and he's not angry at Mum anymore.
1183
01:09:53,611 --> 01:09:57,000
As proud dad moments go,
that's probably low on the list
1184
01:09:57,001 --> 01:09:57,975
for her dad.
1185
01:09:59,331 --> 01:10:02,410
The interview had gone
horribly wrong for her parents.
1186
01:10:02,411 --> 01:10:04,210
And worse was still to come.
1187
01:10:04,211 --> 01:10:05,976
After being picked up
by the press...
1188
01:10:07,691 --> 01:10:10,740
...it went viral, causing
a wave of comments to add
1189
01:10:10,741 --> 01:10:12,256
to the Norris' embarrassment.
1190
01:10:19,131 --> 01:10:21,639
I think maybe she just had an
argument with her parents
1191
01:10:21,640 --> 01:10:24,256
and thought, "Oh, I'll show you.
I'll get my own back."
1192
01:10:28,051 --> 01:10:31,210
Still to come - we look at
the public information films that
1193
01:10:31,211 --> 01:10:32,975
scarred us for life.
1194
01:10:36,100 --> 01:10:38,380
It's like the stuff of nightmares.
1195
01:10:38,381 --> 01:10:40,879
And Porky Pig turns the air blue.
1196
01:10:40,880 --> 01:10:42,586
Son of a bi-bi-bi-bi-bi...
1197
01:10:43,691 --> 01:10:46,920
And you just don't expect
Porky Pig to say, sort of,
1198
01:10:46,921 --> 01:10:48,226
rude words on television.
1199
01:10:56,531 --> 01:10:59,140
Here's something from
the vaults of Warner Brothers
1200
01:10:59,141 --> 01:11:00,460
that you won't have seen.
1201
01:11:00,461 --> 01:11:03,859
In 1939, one of the studio's
emerging global superstars
1202
01:11:03,860 --> 01:11:06,660
was Porky Pig, who features in
this lovable piece
1203
01:11:06,661 --> 01:11:08,356
along with his trademark stutter.
1204
01:11:09,711 --> 01:11:14,849
Porky Pig is a classic
TV cartoon character
1205
01:11:14,850 --> 01:11:17,996
which is a cute fat pig, basically.
1206
01:11:20,581 --> 01:11:24,226
Son of a bi-bi-bi-bi-bi...
1207
01:11:35,501 --> 01:11:37,420
Oh, son of a bi-bi-bi-bi-bi...
1208
01:11:37,421 --> 01:11:38,710
Son of a bi-bi-bi-bi...
1209
01:11:38,711 --> 01:11:40,170
...gun.
HE LAUGHS
1210
01:11:40,171 --> 01:11:43,506
You thought I was going to say
"son of a bitch," didn't ya?
1211
01:11:46,810 --> 01:11:48,886
"Ah, you son of a bitch!"
1212
01:11:54,711 --> 01:11:58,076
You thought I was going to say
"son of a bitch," didn't ya?
1213
01:12:05,711 --> 01:12:07,300
It's all right, folks.
1214
01:12:07,301 --> 01:12:09,350
This wasn't actually
broadcast at the time.
1215
01:12:09,351 --> 01:12:12,140
It was purely for the amusement
of Warner Brothers staff
1216
01:12:12,141 --> 01:12:14,476
at their end-of-year celebrations.
1217
01:12:35,581 --> 01:12:37,059
Son of a bi-bi-bi-bi...gun.
1218
01:12:37,060 --> 01:12:38,140
HE LAUGHS
1219
01:12:38,141 --> 01:12:41,250
You thought I was going to say
"son of a bitch," didn't ya?
1220
01:12:41,251 --> 01:12:44,326
That was just very,
very out of character.
1221
01:12:59,760 --> 01:13:03,800
Sweden - the country that gave us
ABBA, flat-pack furniture,
1222
01:13:03,801 --> 01:13:07,520
meatballs, and cars with
headlights that won't turn off.
1223
01:13:07,521 --> 01:13:10,520
And then, of course,
there's the television shows.
1224
01:13:10,521 --> 01:13:12,470
# Bon, Bon...
1225
01:13:12,471 --> 01:13:17,240
state broadcaster SVT produces Bon,
a programme for kids,
1226
01:13:17,241 --> 01:13:20,526
which featured this
strange episode in 2016.
1227
01:13:21,801 --> 01:13:25,440
This is a Swedish programme which
features a puppet called Bon.
1228
01:13:25,441 --> 01:13:30,400
This bizarre Swedish chef
who's nowhere near as cuddly
1229
01:13:30,401 --> 01:13:31,879
as the one on The Muppet Show.
1230
01:13:31,880 --> 01:13:35,016
SPEAKING IN SWEDISH
1231
01:13:37,371 --> 01:13:38,680
And he's...
1232
01:13:38,681 --> 01:13:41,720
"Whodin boodin goodin haggis.
Scotland."
1233
01:13:41,721 --> 01:13:43,400
So, OK, he's making some haggis.
1234
01:13:43,401 --> 01:13:46,240
Swedish guy dressed as a puppet,
making a Scottish dish.
1235
01:13:46,241 --> 01:13:48,346
So, first of all,
where do you even go from there?
1236
01:14:17,721 --> 01:14:20,370
It is just all kinds of wrong.
All kinds of wrong.
1237
01:14:20,371 --> 01:14:21,346
Simple as, hands up.
1238
01:14:24,621 --> 01:14:27,496
So, he's getting all this shit
and putting it in the condom.
1239
01:14:33,521 --> 01:14:37,430
There's something very
Sweeney Todd about him.
1240
01:14:37,431 --> 01:14:40,016
There's just this...revolting meat.
1241
01:14:48,361 --> 01:14:51,190
And then, he actually gets a sausage
and puts in there, at one point.
1242
01:14:51,191 --> 01:14:53,400
Just a full-on sausage
with a condom on it.
1243
01:14:53,401 --> 01:14:56,079
It's like, you know when you're at
school and you get the banana,
1244
01:14:56,080 --> 01:14:59,160
and you get the condom, and you have
to put it over, and stuff like that?
1245
01:14:59,161 --> 01:15:01,440
You think, "He won't eat that,
he's going to do something
1246
01:15:01,441 --> 01:15:02,855
"really bizarre with that."
1247
01:15:08,191 --> 01:15:10,879
There's a conversation you want
to have with your children.
1248
01:15:10,880 --> 01:15:13,520
Never put a sausage in a condom.
1249
01:15:13,521 --> 01:15:16,600
SVT's Facebook site was flooded
with complaints from parents
1250
01:15:16,601 --> 01:15:19,676
outraged by the use of a condom
in a kids TV show.
1251
01:15:21,261 --> 01:15:22,950
Yeah, I mean, parents complained.
1252
01:15:22,951 --> 01:15:25,820
I don't know why they would complain
about a creepy, creepy man
1253
01:15:25,821 --> 01:15:27,356
putting a sausage in a condom.
1254
01:15:34,621 --> 01:15:37,340
And it makes you feel like you're
never going to eat anything,
1255
01:15:37,341 --> 01:15:38,316
anything again.
1256
01:15:41,461 --> 01:15:44,099
Back in the day when time
in the schedule was dedicated
1257
01:15:44,100 --> 01:15:47,620
to children's TV, interspersed with
the cartoons could often be found
1258
01:15:47,621 --> 01:15:50,620
Government-funded information films.
1259
01:15:50,621 --> 01:15:53,340
Their usual aim was
to promote safety.
1260
01:15:53,341 --> 01:15:57,590
He says, "Never go anywhere with
men or ladies you don't know".
1261
01:15:57,591 --> 01:16:01,490
But occasionally, the methods used
could scare a child half to death.
1262
01:16:01,491 --> 01:16:02,466
Watch out!
1263
01:16:04,951 --> 01:16:06,029
SHE SCREAMS
1264
01:16:06,030 --> 01:16:09,820
In 1973, the great minds at
the Central Office of Information
1265
01:16:09,821 --> 01:16:11,396
came up with this classic.
1266
01:16:21,491 --> 01:16:26,180
Quite possibly the
most disturbing and horrific
1267
01:16:26,181 --> 01:16:28,700
piece of television I've ever seen.
1268
01:16:28,701 --> 01:16:30,670
Spooky, I suppose one could say.
1269
01:16:30,671 --> 01:16:32,820
And they've got
Donald Pleasance's voice.
1270
01:16:32,821 --> 01:16:33,825
Come on, come on!
1271
01:16:39,770 --> 01:16:42,620
The 1970s - quite a different time.
1272
01:16:42,621 --> 01:16:44,955
A time of no parents, apparently.
1273
01:16:50,261 --> 01:16:52,516
There are a lot of
public information films.
1274
01:16:54,100 --> 01:16:57,236
And this one is just on
another level.
1275
01:17:02,741 --> 01:17:07,825
If that was me as a child,
I would never go near water again.
1276
01:17:15,100 --> 01:17:17,310
It's like the stuff of nightmares!
1277
01:17:17,311 --> 01:17:19,796
Those kids that were watching
that must have been terrified.
1278
01:17:23,770 --> 01:17:25,380
Nobody wanted to go swimming.
1279
01:17:25,381 --> 01:17:27,060
Nobody wanted to wash their face.
1280
01:17:27,061 --> 01:17:30,820
"No, Mum, it's water! Stay away!
The Grim Reaper told me to!"
1281
01:17:30,821 --> 01:17:32,566
It probably gave them all a phobia.
1282
01:17:38,850 --> 01:17:40,380
DISTANTLY: Help!
1283
01:17:40,381 --> 01:17:44,180
Help!
1284
01:17:44,181 --> 01:17:45,740
This is meant to be safe.
1285
01:17:45,741 --> 01:17:48,260
Forget keeping it safe.
This just freaks me out.
1286
01:17:48,261 --> 01:17:50,260
Oi, look!
There's someone in the water!
1287
01:17:50,261 --> 01:17:52,236
Quick, use that big stick
to get him out!
1288
01:17:56,020 --> 01:17:57,820
Fancy putting that on television.
1289
01:17:57,821 --> 01:18:02,380
Is it about drowning? Or is it
about, you know, how sinister
1290
01:18:02,381 --> 01:18:05,825
can we make an educational film?
1291
01:18:08,321 --> 01:18:10,130
Very surreal.
1292
01:18:10,131 --> 01:18:12,340
It was the most scariest thing ever.
1293
01:18:12,341 --> 01:18:13,740
It was worse than a horror film.
1294
01:18:13,741 --> 01:18:16,019
I am pretty scarred.
1295
01:18:16,020 --> 01:18:17,875
And I don't think it will
ever leave me.
1296
01:18:22,491 --> 01:18:25,769
Children's television at the BBC
has been the launchpad for the
1297
01:18:25,770 --> 01:18:28,820
careers of many an up-and-coming
TV presenter.
1298
01:18:28,821 --> 01:18:31,849
The famous CBC Broom Cupboard,
for example, gave the likes
1299
01:18:31,850 --> 01:18:36,660
of Phillip Schofield, Toby Anstis,
and me our first chance to shine.
1300
01:18:36,661 --> 01:18:39,820
A more recent addition to
the output is the CBeebies channel,
1301
01:18:39,821 --> 01:18:41,490
aimed at the under-sixes.
1302
01:18:41,491 --> 01:18:43,700
And it was here that
Cerrie Burnell was given
1303
01:18:43,701 --> 01:18:45,106
her first presenting break.
1304
01:18:46,980 --> 01:18:49,566
Have you ever listened
to a seashell?
1305
01:18:50,701 --> 01:18:54,310
Well, it's what today's story
is all about.
1306
01:18:54,311 --> 01:18:56,229
My little boy,
when he was a toddler,
1307
01:18:56,230 --> 01:18:58,380
grew up watching Cerrie Burnell.
1308
01:18:58,381 --> 01:19:00,205
And he loved her!
1309
01:19:01,900 --> 01:19:05,590
She is the absolute perfect
kids TV presenter.
1310
01:19:05,591 --> 01:19:07,099
You just have to have fun.
1311
01:19:07,100 --> 01:19:10,099
You just have to find a way
of being the, kind of,
1312
01:19:10,100 --> 01:19:12,310
sunniest version of yourself.
1313
01:19:12,311 --> 01:19:16,540
Bright-eyed, bushy-tailed,
big eyes, smiley, warm.
1314
01:19:16,541 --> 01:19:19,849
In January 2009,
when the BBC hired Cerrie -
1315
01:19:19,850 --> 01:19:22,310
who'd been born with one
fully-functioning arm -
1316
01:19:22,311 --> 01:19:24,950
it was seen as a progressive
move by a corporation keen
1317
01:19:24,951 --> 01:19:27,926
to promote a modern,
inclusive employment policy.
1318
01:19:33,980 --> 01:19:38,566
My son never questioned the fact
that her arm stopped at the elbow.
1319
01:19:45,701 --> 01:19:48,180
But some parents seem convinced
the BBC had got
1320
01:19:48,181 --> 01:19:50,769
their casting horribly wrong.
1321
01:19:50,770 --> 01:19:55,050
Some parents left messages on
the CBeebies message boards,
1322
01:19:55,051 --> 01:19:56,130
which are anonymous.
1323
01:19:56,131 --> 01:19:57,590
"Get her off the television!
1324
01:19:57,591 --> 01:20:00,026
"Her disability is frightening
the kids!"
1325
01:20:02,951 --> 01:20:05,099
They were saying things like,
erm, you know,
1326
01:20:05,100 --> 01:20:06,700
"My daughter's really frightened.
1327
01:20:06,701 --> 01:20:09,700
"L'm having to turn over in between
the programmes because my
1328
01:20:09,701 --> 01:20:11,700
"little girl might have nightmares."
1329
01:20:11,701 --> 01:20:16,410
Frothing at the mouth, saying that
this brilliantly perfect
1330
01:20:16,411 --> 01:20:19,180
kids' television presenter
was scaring their kids.
1331
01:20:19,181 --> 01:20:21,490
My favourite one was, erm,
1332
01:20:21,491 --> 01:20:24,660
"lt's all very well talking about
disability, but I don't want
1333
01:20:24,661 --> 01:20:27,019
"to have to deal with it at
9.00 in the morning."
1334
01:20:27,020 --> 01:20:30,026
You know...so, sorry,
we'll come back at 2:10.
1335
01:20:33,181 --> 01:20:36,820
Next, the papers got hold
of the story.
1336
01:20:36,821 --> 01:20:39,130
This story appeared in the
Daily Mail, and then,
1337
01:20:39,131 --> 01:20:41,380
everything kind of snowballed.
1338
01:20:41,381 --> 01:20:42,820
If you've got young children,
1339
01:20:42,821 --> 01:20:45,019
then you probably recognise
our next guest.
1340
01:20:45,020 --> 01:20:47,676
It's Cerrie Burnell,
a presenter on CBeebies.
1341
01:20:54,951 --> 01:20:58,340
We did nine interviews in one day.
1342
01:20:58,341 --> 01:21:01,130
It went global very quickly.
1343
01:21:01,131 --> 01:21:05,380
It gave space to these very
negative feelings people have
1344
01:21:05,381 --> 01:21:08,356
about disabilities that often
aren't voiced.
1345
01:21:22,051 --> 01:21:24,480
You have to be taught all
these negative things.
1346
01:21:24,481 --> 01:21:29,919
My child didn't notice her arm,
because kids are the most accepting
1347
01:21:29,920 --> 01:21:31,296
people in the world.
1348
01:21:34,711 --> 01:21:38,280
The press coverage allowed Cerrie
to confront the prejudice head-on.
1349
01:21:38,281 --> 01:21:41,710
What this highlights is that people
just aren't used to seeing
1350
01:21:41,711 --> 01:21:43,680
disabled talent on telly.
1351
01:21:43,681 --> 01:21:47,710
I felt really pleased, actually,
that that was highlighted,
1352
01:21:47,711 --> 01:21:52,280
and that I was given the freedom,
really, and a platform to then talk
1353
01:21:52,281 --> 01:21:54,256
about the bigger issue.
1354
01:22:01,120 --> 01:22:04,640
If a prejudice exists and if people
aren't discussing it,
1355
01:22:04,641 --> 01:22:06,640
it means that it's just festering
and, actually,
1356
01:22:06,641 --> 01:22:08,070
it's better to talk about it.
1357
01:22:08,071 --> 01:22:09,430
And that's how you move on.
1358
01:22:09,431 --> 01:22:12,510
The BBC stuck by Cerrie
until the complaints faded away,
1359
01:22:12,511 --> 01:22:14,960
and she went on to successfully
present on CBeebies
1360
01:22:14,961 --> 01:22:16,890
for the next eight years.
1361
01:22:16,891 --> 01:22:19,999
We're at the point now where
we have a generation of children
1362
01:22:20,000 --> 01:22:24,480
who are growing up thinking
that disability is normal -
1363
01:22:24,481 --> 01:22:26,975
which, to me, is amazing.
1364
01:22:29,711 --> 01:22:32,890
Still to come -
we've saved the best till last.
1365
01:22:32,891 --> 01:22:35,360
And it's time for the
Golden Age of Kids TV,
1366
01:22:35,361 --> 01:22:37,919
where one presenter feels the heat.
1367
01:22:37,920 --> 01:22:40,936
The fire has turned into a
raging inferno.
1368
01:22:42,281 --> 01:22:44,960
And things kick off with a kangaroo.
1369
01:22:44,961 --> 01:22:47,656
Rags decides to take on the monster.
1370
01:22:56,140 --> 01:22:59,290
A kids classic Down Under now,
and here's evidence to prove that
1371
01:22:59,291 --> 01:23:02,530
animals and live TV just don't mix.
1372
01:23:02,531 --> 01:23:05,600
The Early Bird Show was a live
five-hour production
1373
01:23:05,601 --> 01:23:08,850
that enthralled Australian kids
every Saturday on Network 10.
1374
01:23:08,851 --> 01:23:11,889
The Early Bird Show... Yeah.
..Is like an Australian version
1375
01:23:11,890 --> 01:23:12,930
of Going Live. Yes.
1376
01:23:12,931 --> 01:23:14,735
It's a live TV show for kids. Yeah.
1377
01:23:20,601 --> 01:23:23,040
One of its stars
was Marty the Monster.
1378
01:23:23,041 --> 01:23:25,370
And they've got Marty the Monster...
Marty the Monster.
1379
01:23:25,371 --> 01:23:28,826
...which is the equivalent of, say...
Mr Blobby meets the Honey Monster.
1380
01:23:31,210 --> 01:23:33,209
The hideous-looking thing.
1381
01:23:33,210 --> 01:23:36,530
One regular guest was animal
expert Fritz Martin, who,
1382
01:23:36,531 --> 01:23:39,370
on this occasion, was accompanied
by Rags the Kangaroo.
1383
01:23:39,371 --> 01:23:41,930
How old's Rags?
Rags is nine years old.
1384
01:23:41,931 --> 01:23:43,320
G'day, Rex. How are ya, mate?
1385
01:23:43,321 --> 01:23:45,370
That's pretty old for a
red kangaroo. ls it?
1386
01:23:45,371 --> 01:23:48,346
Oh, yeah, they usually only live
about that long in the wild.
1387
01:23:49,811 --> 01:23:52,546
Was he a presenter? No! Right.
He's a real kangaroo.
1388
01:23:55,321 --> 01:23:57,040
Come on, Marie.
You've met Rags before.
1389
01:23:57,041 --> 01:23:58,266
I know, I love him... Hey!
1390
01:24:03,140 --> 01:24:06,730
Marty the Monster, kind of,
keeps coming up to Rags.
1391
01:24:06,731 --> 01:24:10,930
Which clearly, Rags the Kangaroo
finds threatening.
1392
01:24:10,931 --> 01:24:12,865
And who wouldn't, quite frankly?
1393
01:24:18,651 --> 01:24:20,865
He obviously didn't like anything
yellow and fluffy.
1394
01:24:24,321 --> 01:24:27,530
Rags the Kangaroo sees Marty
the Monster, and obviously thinks
1395
01:24:27,531 --> 01:24:30,185
it's some sort of bear,
or some sort of odd thing.
1396
01:24:31,890 --> 01:24:34,370
Whoa-ho-ho!
1397
01:24:34,371 --> 01:24:36,570
Don't hurt him, mate!
1398
01:24:36,571 --> 01:24:39,570
Rags decides to take on the monster.
1399
01:24:39,571 --> 01:24:42,016
And grabs a hold of him,
and gets him in a headlock.
1400
01:24:44,601 --> 01:24:46,810
Gets a firm - he's got a good grip!
1401
01:24:46,811 --> 01:24:48,959
He's a big kangaroo.
1402
01:24:48,960 --> 01:24:50,370
You see the muscles on him.
1403
01:24:50,371 --> 01:24:53,185
Incredibly well-developed
chest muscles, arm muscles.
1404
01:24:56,090 --> 01:24:59,959
Get him on the ground in
a full wrestling submission!
1405
01:24:59,960 --> 01:25:02,730
One...two...three!
1406
01:25:02,731 --> 01:25:04,139
And Rags is the winner!
1407
01:25:04,140 --> 01:25:07,089
He literally was crushing him to
the point where this guy
1408
01:25:07,090 --> 01:25:08,290
just fell on the floor.
1409
01:25:08,291 --> 01:25:11,216
He couldn't even physically,
you know, kick this kangaroo off.
1410
01:25:15,571 --> 01:25:17,040
MARTY SCREAMS
1411
01:25:17,041 --> 01:25:19,240
SCREAMI NG CONTINUES
1412
01:25:19,241 --> 01:25:22,209
I now pronounce you monster
and kangaroo!
1413
01:25:22,210 --> 01:25:24,680
They could've been being strangled,
and you wouldn't know,
1414
01:25:24,681 --> 01:25:27,959
cos the big, smiley monster mask
is still a smiley monster.
1415
01:25:27,960 --> 01:25:30,885
MARTY SCREAMING
1416
01:25:33,621 --> 01:25:35,159
GRUNTING
1417
01:25:35,160 --> 01:25:38,800
This could be the end of a good
career for the monster here.
1418
01:25:38,801 --> 01:25:41,166
I'm not doing anything!
1419
01:25:45,751 --> 01:25:50,590
Eventually he's peeled off
with great effort by the keeper.
1420
01:25:50,591 --> 01:25:53,620
And you'd think, at that point,
Marty the Monster had...
1421
01:25:53,621 --> 01:25:55,670
"Go, get out of here," you know?
1422
01:25:55,671 --> 01:25:57,885
You know, there's a mad kangaroo.
1423
01:26:02,871 --> 01:26:05,550
They're going through that
every week in the animal kingdom.
1424
01:26:05,551 --> 01:26:08,166
Someone should say,
"Go away, clear off."
1425
01:26:10,261 --> 01:26:12,830
Do you know what day it is?
1426
01:26:12,831 --> 01:26:18,190
Rags is now so wound up that
he's kicking seven shades of shite
1427
01:26:18,191 --> 01:26:19,700
out of his keeper!
1428
01:26:19,701 --> 01:26:21,486
He's kicking him, throttling him.
1429
01:26:26,551 --> 01:26:27,979
Yeah.
1430
01:26:27,980 --> 01:26:30,446
Oh, yeah.
1431
01:26:35,980 --> 01:26:37,566
AUDIENCE EXCLAIMS
1432
01:26:38,980 --> 01:26:40,899
So, the handler says,
"Oh, give him some bread.
1433
01:26:40,900 --> 01:26:42,510
"That's what he wanted,
some bread."
1434
01:26:42,511 --> 01:26:44,800
Bread! Fight! Bread! Fight!
1435
01:26:44,801 --> 01:26:46,550
Would you like a bit of egg with it?
1436
01:26:46,551 --> 01:26:48,510
No egg, just a bit of
bread'll do, Marty.
1437
01:26:48,511 --> 01:26:49,566
MARTY SCREAMS
1438
01:26:51,751 --> 01:26:54,340
The kangaroo just wanted to hit him!
1439
01:26:54,341 --> 01:26:55,446
And knocked Marty out.
1440
01:27:00,751 --> 01:27:02,550
Why didn't Marty leave?
1441
01:27:02,551 --> 01:27:05,340
And then, the kangaroo probably
would've calmed down.
1442
01:27:05,341 --> 01:27:07,109
But no, Marty kept coming
back for more.
1443
01:27:07,110 --> 01:27:09,029
That was really dumb.
1444
01:27:09,030 --> 01:27:11,950
See, I'm not sure whether it's the
monster that got the kangaroo angry,
1445
01:27:11,951 --> 01:27:15,190
or the presenter in his
stonewashed denims?
1446
01:27:15,191 --> 01:27:16,316
And his feather-cut?
1447
01:27:18,551 --> 01:27:21,590
See ya. Thanks. Thanks, mate.
1448
01:27:21,591 --> 01:27:24,870
It was just a fabulous bit of telly.
SHE CHUCKLES
1449
01:27:24,871 --> 01:27:28,510
Nowadays, TV shows are strictly
controlled to be healthy and safe.
1450
01:27:28,511 --> 01:27:31,979
But 60 years ago, even kids'
programmes could be hazardous.
1451
01:27:31,980 --> 01:27:34,590
So, there was this kids'
TV programme called Super Circus.
1452
01:27:34,591 --> 01:27:35,750
It was from the States.
1453
01:27:35,751 --> 01:27:37,550
A live kids TV show -
1454
01:27:37,551 --> 01:27:39,750
you gotta love live kids TV,
you really have -
1455
01:27:39,751 --> 01:27:41,510
back in the days of black-and-white.
1456
01:27:41,511 --> 01:27:44,800
It basically featured everything
to do with the circus.
1457
01:27:44,801 --> 01:27:47,446
So, acrobats, clowns,
that kind of thing.
1458
01:27:59,871 --> 01:28:03,310
Super Circus ran from 1949 to '56.
1459
01:28:03,311 --> 01:28:07,260
One of its performers was Vivian
Nelson, who had her trapeze act
1460
01:28:07,261 --> 01:28:09,790
and equipment adapted for
smaller venues.
1461
01:28:09,791 --> 01:28:12,806
You've got this circus trapeze
act going on.
1462
01:28:14,621 --> 01:28:17,670
So, she's there swinging along,
you know, looking like, you know,
1463
01:28:17,671 --> 01:28:19,316
she had the best time in the world.
1464
01:28:22,061 --> 01:28:24,310
Then, all of a sudden,
she goes crashing to the ground.
1465
01:28:24,311 --> 01:28:26,700
It's almost like a load of
toilet rolls have alljust been
1466
01:28:26,701 --> 01:28:29,340
super-glued together, then just
collapsed - and she stacks it.
1467
01:28:29,341 --> 01:28:31,670
She absolutely decks it
off this swing.
1468
01:28:31,671 --> 01:28:35,236
And you see loads of stage help
running to the frame of the swing.
1469
01:28:38,671 --> 01:28:42,926
For the 1950s, a lesson in
health and safety gone wrong.
1470
01:28:49,591 --> 01:28:54,005
The presenter goes off on one, going, "Oh, no,
she's absolutely fine. She didn't fall very far."
1471
01:28:57,110 --> 01:28:59,700
Poor woman, she's probably
knocked her front teeth out,
1472
01:28:59,701 --> 01:29:01,229
probably given herself whiplash.
1473
01:29:01,230 --> 01:29:03,205
So, you just think,
"OK, cool, that's the end."
1474
01:29:09,671 --> 01:29:12,620
And then, what do they go and do?
They go and bring a child in!
1475
01:29:12,621 --> 01:29:14,899
And go, "There you go, kid!
You can hop on top of that and
1476
01:29:14,900 --> 01:29:17,005
start flinging yourself around,
as well!"
1477
01:29:19,671 --> 01:29:22,080
And you're like, "What?
So now, you'll have two people
1478
01:29:22,081 --> 01:29:24,109
on this rickety old swing
that has just broken?"
1479
01:29:24,110 --> 01:29:26,236
If that was me, I'd have been
out of that door.
1480
01:29:31,081 --> 01:29:34,180
Fair play to the woman - live TV,
"The show must go on."
1481
01:29:34,181 --> 01:29:35,700
So, she gets on to the top of it.
1482
01:29:35,701 --> 01:29:37,890
She just does this little test.
1483
01:29:37,891 --> 01:29:40,129
"Yep, that'll do. Give it a try."
1484
01:29:40,130 --> 01:29:41,336
And off she goes.
1485
01:29:47,851 --> 01:29:50,009
AUDIENCE CHEERS
1486
01:29:50,010 --> 01:29:52,060
You're literally on the edge
of your sofa, going,
1487
01:29:52,061 --> 01:29:54,450
"This is all going to go wrong.
They're both going to fall.
1488
01:29:54,451 --> 01:29:56,959
"This 14-year-old girl is just
going to go plummeting down
1489
01:29:56,960 --> 01:29:58,009
"to break her legs."
1490
01:29:58,010 --> 01:29:59,706
That could never happen nowadays.
1491
01:30:01,371 --> 01:30:03,266
AUDIENCE CHEERS
1492
01:30:06,451 --> 01:30:08,730
A few years later,
still in the '60s,
1493
01:30:08,731 --> 01:30:11,490
kids' show Pixanne came
to American screens -
1494
01:30:11,491 --> 01:30:13,855
the idea of one-time child prodigy,
Jane Norman.
1495
01:30:15,880 --> 01:30:19,680
Norman walked into
Philadelphia TV station WCAU TV
1496
01:30:19,681 --> 01:30:23,240
with no appointment, described the
show to the programme director and,
1497
01:30:23,241 --> 01:30:25,450
within three weeks, had it on air.
1498
01:30:25,451 --> 01:30:28,290
Pixanne? Have you seen Pixanne?
Oh, yeah, yeah. Pixanne.
1499
01:30:28,291 --> 01:30:29,850
Yeah, Police saying about it.
1500
01:30:29,851 --> 01:30:31,450
TO THE TUNE OF "ROXANNE":
# Pixanne...
1501
01:30:31,451 --> 01:30:32,850
# You don't have to put on...
1502
01:30:32,851 --> 01:30:34,129
It's a different Pixanne.
1503
01:30:34,130 --> 01:30:36,310
# You don't have to put on
the pixie suit... #
1504
01:30:36,311 --> 01:30:39,009
Pixanne, she wasn't a character!
She was Pixanne...
1505
01:30:39,010 --> 01:30:41,560
She was just a woman in
a pixie suit.
1506
01:30:41,561 --> 01:30:44,520
For Fire Awareness Week, Pixanne
featured a burning ring of fire
1507
01:30:44,521 --> 01:30:47,959
for some German Shepherd dogs
to jump through.
1508
01:30:47,960 --> 01:30:50,065
However, things got a
little out of hand.
1509
01:30:55,061 --> 01:30:59,270
So even though we're in an enchanted
forest, this guy just walks in...
1510
01:30:59,271 --> 01:31:01,770
The Enchanted Pixie Fire
Extinguisher Man.
1511
01:31:01,771 --> 01:31:04,089
He wasn't dressed up as anything!
1512
01:31:04,090 --> 01:31:06,266
"Hello, kids!" Pssh! Sprays it.
1513
01:31:24,931 --> 01:31:26,490
Well, you know what think we'll do?
1514
01:31:26,491 --> 01:31:29,209
I think, as a matter of fact,
we're going to leave the fire
1515
01:31:29,210 --> 01:31:32,370
just as it is now, and, erm...
1516
01:31:32,371 --> 01:31:34,985
It was all live, back in those
old days. Oh, yeah, yeah.
1517
01:31:41,801 --> 01:31:44,490
Maybe, instead of having to do this,
1518
01:31:44,491 --> 01:31:48,320
maybe the sergeant would come back
again a little bit later sometime,
1519
01:31:48,321 --> 01:31:51,160
and he'd show us some of the other
things that the dogs can do.
1520
01:31:51,161 --> 01:31:53,089
Wait a minute, let's see if
we can try once more,
1521
01:31:53,090 --> 01:31:54,376
and we'll put the fire out.
1522
01:32:05,451 --> 01:32:08,105
It goes on for about four hours.
Yeah.
1523
01:32:09,931 --> 01:32:11,426
HE LAUGHS
1524
01:32:19,411 --> 01:32:20,959
There's a real ring of fire.
1525
01:32:20,960 --> 01:32:23,800
It was magic - a magic pixie ring of
fire that would never go out.
1526
01:32:23,801 --> 01:32:28,065
The magic flame of the
Enchanted Forest burning forever.
1527
01:32:42,771 --> 01:32:45,129
And then, the fire officer walks in.
1528
01:32:45,130 --> 01:32:48,730
And what's fantastic is
he is perfectly framed.
1529
01:32:48,731 --> 01:32:51,410
He's doing sod all about it.
1530
01:32:51,411 --> 01:32:54,009
He's just watching it,
scratching his chin -
1531
01:32:54,010 --> 01:32:57,296
framed beautifully in shot
within the ring of fire.
1532
01:33:01,571 --> 01:33:03,770
You think they'd have some honker
going off, going...
1533
01:33:03,771 --> 01:33:05,959
HE IMITATES CLAXON HORN
You know, like a claxon.
1534
01:33:05,960 --> 01:33:08,496
They should have a claxon, at least!
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
1535
01:33:10,731 --> 01:33:13,290
Wasn't Claxon the name of one of
the puppets on it, as well?
1536
01:33:13,291 --> 01:33:15,089
He had, yeah - Jeremy Claxon.
1537
01:33:15,090 --> 01:33:16,065
THEY LAUGH
1538
01:33:17,441 --> 01:33:21,410
Even though Pixanne ran for
17 years, only these few small
1539
01:33:21,411 --> 01:33:24,209
fragments of the show now survive.
1540
01:33:24,210 --> 01:33:27,570
Ironically, all of the original
tapes were destroyed...
1541
01:33:27,571 --> 01:33:29,466
...in a fire.
1542
01:33:53,010 --> 01:33:56,496
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