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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:27,924 --> 00:00:29,257 Reporter: Here's a scene that has long 2 00:00:29,259 --> 00:00:31,726 Since ceased causing any surprise. 3 00:00:31,728 --> 00:00:34,829 The womenfolk washing dishes made of plastic. 4 00:00:34,831 --> 00:00:37,598 Dishes that bounce when they drop to the floor. 5 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:40,635 Hard to realize it, but it was only 10 years ago 6 00:00:40,637 --> 00:00:43,571 That the first pound of polystyrene plastic was sold 7 00:00:47,444 --> 00:00:50,912 Narrator: And the chemical age is just dawning. 8 00:00:53,850 --> 00:00:56,284 These few things, my friends, 9 00:00:56,286 --> 00:00:59,821 Are only a hint of what american industry holds in the future. 10 00:01:05,728 --> 00:01:09,697 Yes, mylar's properties are right in its molecules 11 00:01:09,699 --> 00:01:14,836 And with them are coming new and better things for us all. 12 00:01:16,673 --> 00:01:20,541 Today will be a better day for a lot of people 13 00:01:20,543 --> 00:01:24,412 Simply because of a material we call plastic. 14 00:01:26,950 --> 00:01:31,953 Chapman: This industry is well positioned to build on our accomplishments 15 00:01:31,955 --> 00:01:35,890 To shape a sustainable and prosperous future. 16 00:01:38,361 --> 00:01:42,263 In summary, we believe the best is yet to come. 17 00:02:03,553 --> 00:02:05,386 Carpenter: I think, like many people, I had noticed 18 00:02:05,388 --> 00:02:07,722 A real surge of attention and interest 19 00:02:07,724 --> 00:02:10,291 In the issue of plastic pollution. 20 00:02:28,378 --> 00:02:31,612 This sort of all came about from conversations with activists 21 00:02:31,614 --> 00:02:34,782 Who are working on plastics issues. 22 00:02:34,784 --> 00:02:36,617 Oftentimes what I do is ask people 23 00:02:36,619 --> 00:02:37,752 That are close to an issue, 24 00:02:37,754 --> 00:02:40,421 How they feel about the media coverage. 25 00:02:42,358 --> 00:02:44,058 And one thing I was consistently hearing 26 00:02:44,060 --> 00:02:47,228 Was that there was a gap in coverage 27 00:02:47,230 --> 00:02:50,064 When it came to the front end of the story. 28 00:02:50,066 --> 00:02:53,200 So there was a ton of attention around the final stage 29 00:02:53,202 --> 00:02:54,936 Of the plastics lifecycle 30 00:02:54,938 --> 00:02:57,171 When it actually becomes pollution, 31 00:02:57,173 --> 00:02:59,440 But not as many people were telling the story 32 00:02:59,442 --> 00:03:01,709 About where plastic comes from. 33 00:03:17,627 --> 00:03:20,561 You can never solve the plastic waste crisis 34 00:03:20,563 --> 00:03:23,598 Just by dealing with it as a waste issue. 35 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:26,934 Who is making the plastics in the first place and why? 36 00:03:29,372 --> 00:03:32,573 Blair: History of plastics began over 30 million years ago 37 00:03:32,575 --> 00:03:35,977 When intense heat, natural chemical changes, 38 00:03:35,979 --> 00:03:37,612 And tremendous pressures created 39 00:03:37,614 --> 00:03:39,880 By the shifting of the earth's crust 40 00:03:39,882 --> 00:03:42,350 Formed the substance needed to make plastic -- 41 00:03:42,352 --> 00:03:45,486 Petroleum. 42 00:03:45,488 --> 00:03:50,291 Muffett: 99% of what goes into plastics is fossil fuels, 43 00:03:50,293 --> 00:03:53,427 And so unsurprisingly, the same companies that make plastics 44 00:03:53,429 --> 00:03:56,063 Are also the companies that sell us fossil fuels -- 45 00:03:56,065 --> 00:04:02,036 Exxon, chevron, conoco phillips, shell, and dow dupont, 46 00:04:02,038 --> 00:04:04,639 Which in addition to being a major chemicals company, 47 00:04:04,641 --> 00:04:07,341 Is also a major player in oil and gas. 48 00:04:12,448 --> 00:04:15,683 Plastics were initially a waste product. 49 00:04:15,685 --> 00:04:17,652 The company could either pay 50 00:04:17,654 --> 00:04:20,154 To dispose of the leftovers responsibly 51 00:04:20,156 --> 00:04:22,223 Or it could turn them into a new product. 52 00:04:24,193 --> 00:04:26,694 Miller: Oil companies compete with each other 53 00:04:26,696 --> 00:04:29,630 In taking the petroleum molecule apart 54 00:04:29,632 --> 00:04:31,632 And rearranging it into... 55 00:04:31,634 --> 00:04:33,334 Well, you name it -- 56 00:04:33,336 --> 00:04:40,441 Fabric's, toothbrushes, tires, insecticides, cosmetics, 57 00:04:40,443 --> 00:04:42,243 Weed killers, 58 00:04:42,245 --> 00:04:46,814 A whole galaxy of things to make a better life on earth. 59 00:05:07,737 --> 00:05:10,805 Narrator: Just as there are many kinds of woods and metals, 60 00:05:10,807 --> 00:05:14,709 So there are many kinds of plastics. 61 00:05:14,711 --> 00:05:17,111 This is plexiglass, too, 62 00:05:17,113 --> 00:05:18,345 One of the most fascinating 63 00:05:18,347 --> 00:05:21,015 And beautiful of the new plastic materials 64 00:05:21,017 --> 00:05:23,184 Created by chemical science, 65 00:05:23,186 --> 00:05:26,687 Ready to bring new beauty and comfort to your home 66 00:05:26,689 --> 00:05:29,356 And add charm to your peace-time living. 67 00:05:33,930 --> 00:05:36,063 Mafira: Plastic is a miracle material. 68 00:05:36,065 --> 00:05:37,364 When it was created, 69 00:05:37,366 --> 00:05:40,768 It was hailed as the biggest invention of the time. 70 00:05:43,406 --> 00:05:47,708 It's extremely durable. It lasts very, very long. 71 00:05:47,710 --> 00:05:49,310 And so the reality is that 72 00:05:49,312 --> 00:05:53,781 Because plastic has all these good qualities, 73 00:05:53,783 --> 00:05:56,450 It's extremely bad for the environment. 74 00:06:04,227 --> 00:06:05,993 I was a corporate lawyer for six years, 75 00:06:05,995 --> 00:06:08,195 And then I decided to leave it to work on something 76 00:06:08,197 --> 00:06:10,097 That I actually cared about 77 00:06:10,099 --> 00:06:14,101 And where I actually had a personal stake in the outcome. 78 00:06:17,140 --> 00:06:19,774 15 years ago, I could still go to a pristine beach 79 00:06:19,776 --> 00:06:21,442 And collect seashells. 80 00:06:21,444 --> 00:06:25,079 And it makes me sad to think that some of the children 81 00:06:25,081 --> 00:06:28,783 Born today, and even my own daughter, 82 00:06:28,785 --> 00:06:33,554 Won't have the memory of a cleaner world. 83 00:06:38,394 --> 00:06:42,463 I just want her to be aware of why her world 84 00:06:42,465 --> 00:06:45,766 Is the way it is and that it could be better. 85 00:06:52,308 --> 00:06:54,375 I feel like I don't know how to answer anymore 86 00:06:54,377 --> 00:06:56,677 When people say, 87 00:06:56,679 --> 00:06:59,480 "why are you focusing on plastic? 88 00:06:59,482 --> 00:07:02,082 Why is plastic a problem?" 89 00:07:02,084 --> 00:07:06,921 I mean, I feel like I should just take them here 90 00:07:06,923 --> 00:07:08,322 And not say anything, 91 00:07:08,324 --> 00:07:11,659 Just take them here and then see what they think, 92 00:07:11,661 --> 00:07:15,196 Whether they think plastic bags are not a problem anymore. 93 00:07:19,969 --> 00:07:24,271 I can still remember a time when I was still a teenager 94 00:07:24,273 --> 00:07:26,373 And this wasn't a problem, 95 00:07:26,375 --> 00:07:30,044 So we're not talking about decades. 96 00:07:30,046 --> 00:07:33,147 We're talking about maybe 10 to 15 years 97 00:07:33,149 --> 00:07:36,584 Of this kind of lifestyle. 98 00:07:39,856 --> 00:07:42,156 A lot of the single-use plastics 99 00:07:42,158 --> 00:07:44,425 That end up polluting our planet, 100 00:07:44,427 --> 00:07:47,361 We only use them once and they stay forever. 101 00:07:47,363 --> 00:07:49,864 They're made of a material that lasts forever. 102 00:07:52,034 --> 00:07:54,702 They're not something that we need 103 00:07:54,704 --> 00:07:57,004 As an essential part of our lives. 104 00:07:59,375 --> 00:08:01,575 And yet, here we are, stuck with it. 105 00:08:05,414 --> 00:08:07,581 Russell: Unfortunately, data are coming back that plastics 106 00:08:07,583 --> 00:08:10,251 Really are a significant component of the waste 107 00:08:10,253 --> 00:08:13,454 That enters the ocean, so that's largely a matter 108 00:08:13,456 --> 00:08:17,057 Of poorly or unmanaged municipal solid waste. 109 00:08:17,059 --> 00:08:18,726 In parts of the world, 110 00:08:18,728 --> 00:08:23,464 Unlike here, where there is not an infrastructure to gather 111 00:08:23,466 --> 00:08:26,467 And appropriately dispose of the waste. 112 00:08:28,671 --> 00:08:33,507 I think what's most frustrating is that the industries are out 113 00:08:33,509 --> 00:08:36,543 There pushing the idea that this is all 114 00:08:36,545 --> 00:08:40,414 Because of bad management. You know, that the waste is here 115 00:08:40,416 --> 00:08:43,317 Because the government isn't putting enough funding 116 00:08:43,319 --> 00:08:45,586 Into proper waste management, 117 00:08:45,588 --> 00:08:49,823 But they're distracting from the truth, 118 00:08:49,825 --> 00:08:52,893 Which is that there is no way you can manage this waste. 119 00:08:52,895 --> 00:08:54,929 It's not meant to be managed. 120 00:08:57,600 --> 00:08:58,899 I think we should band together 121 00:08:58,901 --> 00:09:02,102 And have a serious discussion on a global scale 122 00:09:02,104 --> 00:09:05,072 Because these companies are operating on a global scale. 123 00:09:31,434 --> 00:09:33,767 Sharma: The issue of waste and plastic pollution, 124 00:09:33,769 --> 00:09:38,172 It is about this deeply embedded injustice 125 00:09:38,174 --> 00:09:40,975 That really motivates me to keep doing what I'm doing. 126 00:09:46,615 --> 00:09:51,118 We are standing in ghazipur d-block dairy farm 127 00:09:51,120 --> 00:09:53,354 Next to the landfill, which receives waste 128 00:09:53,356 --> 00:09:56,590 From almost half of delhi. 129 00:10:32,094 --> 00:10:34,728 Sharma: Plastic products are only creating 130 00:10:34,730 --> 00:10:37,731 A mountain of waste in india. 131 00:11:13,085 --> 00:11:16,253 Grate: On a personal level, I have stopped using plastic bags 132 00:11:16,255 --> 00:11:19,389 And plastic straws, and that's a great thing, 133 00:11:19,391 --> 00:11:23,227 But you realize at the systematic level, 134 00:11:23,229 --> 00:11:24,828 That doesn't change anything. 135 00:11:31,570 --> 00:11:35,172 I grew up in an island enjoying nature. 136 00:11:35,174 --> 00:11:39,143 When I was in college, I moved to manila to study. 137 00:11:43,149 --> 00:11:46,316 The first thing that struck me when I arrived here 138 00:11:46,318 --> 00:11:49,520 Was the amount of waste that's on the bay. 139 00:11:53,626 --> 00:11:56,927 This is not what I want for my island, 140 00:11:56,929 --> 00:11:59,763 The place where I grew up, and I know 141 00:11:59,765 --> 00:12:03,066 If I don't do something, that will happen. 142 00:12:11,677 --> 00:12:14,178 Plastic pollution is really a life and death issue 143 00:12:14,180 --> 00:12:17,447 For most people, at least in this part of the world. 144 00:12:19,819 --> 00:12:21,385 Manila bay is like a cove, 145 00:12:21,387 --> 00:12:24,955 And there's several provinces located along that coastline, 146 00:12:24,957 --> 00:12:28,559 So whatever the currents bring in from outside, 147 00:12:28,561 --> 00:12:33,063 They stay within that cove. And whatever waste 148 00:12:33,065 --> 00:12:37,167 Is deposited into the bay from the rivers also stays there. 149 00:12:41,440 --> 00:12:43,006 Every day, day in, day out, 150 00:12:43,008 --> 00:12:45,342 This cleaning operations going on. 151 00:12:51,016 --> 00:12:52,649 It's unending. 152 00:12:57,089 --> 00:13:00,390 You can do cleanups, and the problem will not go away. 153 00:13:03,095 --> 00:13:04,695 You have to look at the root causes. 154 00:13:04,697 --> 00:13:07,431 We can't be doing cleanups all our lives. 155 00:13:09,168 --> 00:13:10,767 This is not a solution. 156 00:13:25,618 --> 00:13:27,317 We're a archipelagic country 157 00:13:27,319 --> 00:13:31,421 And we depend on fish and seafood for sustenance. 158 00:13:31,423 --> 00:13:35,592 It is pretty much part of the filipino lifestyle and culture. 159 00:13:51,777 --> 00:13:53,243 60-40. 160 00:14:11,563 --> 00:14:13,997 Hernandez; the stuff we read about saying 161 00:14:13,999 --> 00:14:17,935 There'll be more plastics in the oceans than fish in 2050, 162 00:14:17,937 --> 00:14:20,804 That's actually a reality for most of these fishermen. 163 00:14:23,742 --> 00:14:27,511 And a lot of this is really unrecyclable plastics. 164 00:14:27,513 --> 00:14:30,447 A great percentage are really multi-layer packaging. 165 00:14:30,449 --> 00:14:33,116 The sachets that you find like this one, 166 00:14:33,118 --> 00:14:35,152 You cannot recycle this. 167 00:14:35,154 --> 00:14:40,490 Nobody bothers to collect them, that's why they end up here. 168 00:14:47,733 --> 00:14:50,200 Who bears the burden of this pollution? 169 00:14:50,202 --> 00:14:52,803 You have the marginal communities, 170 00:14:52,805 --> 00:14:55,806 Coastal communities, the fishing communities, and the people, 171 00:14:55,808 --> 00:15:00,277 The citizens who are forced, through their taxes, 172 00:15:00,279 --> 00:15:02,846 Shoulder the plastic cleanup. 173 00:15:06,285 --> 00:15:08,385 These companies have been able to get away 174 00:15:08,387 --> 00:15:10,354 With it for many years now. 175 00:15:32,544 --> 00:15:34,211 Bourque: We got into recycling 176 00:15:34,213 --> 00:15:36,613 Because we thought it was the right thing to do. 177 00:15:39,952 --> 00:15:42,586 Of course, it is a disposal service. 178 00:15:42,588 --> 00:15:46,523 At its core, it's taking stuff that people don't want anymore 179 00:15:46,525 --> 00:15:51,194 And trying to do something better than landfill with it. 180 00:15:51,196 --> 00:15:52,996 You can see the range of things 181 00:15:52,998 --> 00:15:55,065 That are coming out of people's houses. 182 00:15:55,067 --> 00:15:56,867 10, 15 years ago, 183 00:15:56,869 --> 00:16:02,305 This would have had a lot more aluminum, 184 00:16:02,307 --> 00:16:04,207 A lot more glass. 185 00:16:04,209 --> 00:16:08,211 It's amazing how many things have moved to plastic. 186 00:16:39,878 --> 00:16:43,146 Mafira: People think plastic can be recycled, 187 00:16:43,148 --> 00:16:48,051 But actually, most plastic is very hard to recycle. 188 00:16:48,053 --> 00:16:51,555 So this is data from the world economic forum. 189 00:16:51,557 --> 00:16:55,892 It shows that 32% of plastic packaging 190 00:16:55,894 --> 00:16:58,495 Ends up littering the environment, 191 00:16:58,497 --> 00:17:03,667 40% is sitting in a landfill somewhere, 192 00:17:03,669 --> 00:17:08,371 14% is incinerated, 14% is recycled, 193 00:17:08,373 --> 00:17:11,808 But only 2% is effectively recycled. 194 00:17:11,810 --> 00:17:15,245 Effectively recycled means that it's recycled into something 195 00:17:15,247 --> 00:17:19,382 That's actually as useful as what it was before. 196 00:17:19,384 --> 00:17:21,351 Most of it is down cycled, 197 00:17:21,353 --> 00:17:25,288 Meaning that it becomes something worse. 198 00:17:25,290 --> 00:17:27,090 Unlike glass and metals, 199 00:17:27,092 --> 00:17:29,593 Plastics degrade when they're recycled. 200 00:17:29,595 --> 00:17:32,562 Most recycled plastic is only recycled 201 00:17:32,564 --> 00:17:35,365 Once before ending up in landfills, 202 00:17:35,367 --> 00:17:38,001 Incinerators, and the environment. 203 00:17:50,716 --> 00:17:53,016 Cities around us had kind of caved 204 00:17:53,018 --> 00:17:57,587 To collect all plastics campaign 205 00:17:57,589 --> 00:18:00,557 Of the american chemistry council. 206 00:18:00,559 --> 00:18:03,026 Narrator: Plastics recycling is pretty cool. 207 00:18:03,028 --> 00:18:05,929 And today, we're recycling more and more. 208 00:18:05,931 --> 00:18:08,932 Recycling plastics is a fairly simple process. 209 00:18:11,170 --> 00:18:16,373 In 2013, under significant pressure from our city council, 210 00:18:16,375 --> 00:18:20,844 We began accepting non-bottle mixed rigid plastic. 211 00:18:20,846 --> 00:18:23,480 So all the plastic containers -- berry containers, 212 00:18:23,482 --> 00:18:27,384 Keg cups, plastic cold cups, you know, from starbucks. 213 00:18:29,621 --> 00:18:31,888 Procter and gamble wants us all to believe 214 00:18:31,890 --> 00:18:33,857 That all their packaged goods 215 00:18:33,859 --> 00:18:37,894 Are in totally environmentally sound packaging. 216 00:18:37,896 --> 00:18:42,799 They want us all using single-use packaged products 217 00:18:42,801 --> 00:18:45,535 So that we're just on the supply chain. 218 00:18:48,974 --> 00:18:50,574 It's totally unfair to the cities 219 00:18:50,576 --> 00:18:52,042 And the recyclers on the back end 220 00:18:52,044 --> 00:18:55,011 Because then everyone says, "oh, it's recyclable. 221 00:18:55,013 --> 00:18:58,715 You should collect it." well, then what? 222 00:18:58,717 --> 00:19:02,219 We have to pay to sort it, we have to pay to process it, 223 00:19:02,221 --> 00:19:04,354 And then we don't have any markets for it. 224 00:19:06,425 --> 00:19:08,058 Once we said we would accept it 225 00:19:08,060 --> 00:19:11,328 And we would start sorting it and packing it for export, 226 00:19:11,330 --> 00:19:13,096 It was just like the floodgates were open. 227 00:19:13,098 --> 00:19:18,235 I mean, the tons went up and up and up and up and up. 228 00:19:18,237 --> 00:19:19,703 Because china was buying it, 229 00:19:19,705 --> 00:19:21,738 There actually was a market for that stuff, 230 00:19:21,740 --> 00:19:26,509 And even if we couldn't afford to sort it out here, 231 00:19:26,511 --> 00:19:28,278 We could bail it up and ship it 232 00:19:28,280 --> 00:19:29,646 In a shipping container over there 233 00:19:29,648 --> 00:19:31,748 And somebody over there would sort it out. 234 00:19:40,592 --> 00:19:42,592 Morawski: The united states was shipping over 50% 235 00:19:42,594 --> 00:19:44,127 Of its plastics to china. 236 00:19:44,129 --> 00:19:45,762 The situation was very similar in europe. 237 00:19:45,764 --> 00:19:47,697 We were just shipping it all to china. 238 00:19:47,699 --> 00:19:49,132 China will deal with it. 239 00:19:49,134 --> 00:19:51,468 And we built up these big recycling programs 240 00:19:51,470 --> 00:19:53,236 And everything was about recycle, recycle, 241 00:19:53,238 --> 00:19:56,439 Recycle, recycle is the solution to everything 242 00:19:56,441 --> 00:19:58,241 Because we had china there. 243 00:19:58,243 --> 00:20:00,043 So china has just said, "you know what? 244 00:20:00,045 --> 00:20:01,544 We're sick of being a dumping ground 245 00:20:01,546 --> 00:20:04,214 And we don't want this stuff introduced into our country." 246 00:20:16,662 --> 00:20:18,962 They're useless -- plastics. 247 00:20:18,964 --> 00:20:22,065 Many of them are single-use containers, 248 00:20:22,067 --> 00:20:24,968 Low value plastics, films. 249 00:20:24,970 --> 00:20:27,904 So in general, we see this as a positive. 250 00:20:27,906 --> 00:20:33,343 This gives a chance to upgrade our recycling industry. 251 00:20:33,345 --> 00:20:37,347 The chinese waste ban has really been 252 00:20:37,349 --> 00:20:39,549 A shocking event for europe. 253 00:20:39,551 --> 00:20:43,219 People didn't know that their recycled plastic 254 00:20:43,221 --> 00:20:45,588 Was actually being shipped to china. 255 00:20:52,564 --> 00:20:54,464 The waste that used to be shipped elsewhere 256 00:20:54,466 --> 00:20:58,168 Is now here for us to deal with and we have to confront it, 257 00:20:58,170 --> 00:21:03,506 Because in europe, we really have plastic waste piling up. 258 00:21:03,508 --> 00:21:05,742 Morawski: I see the china thing as a reckoning 259 00:21:05,744 --> 00:21:08,178 Because it's all been this false market 260 00:21:08,180 --> 00:21:11,481 Where we've just been shipping stuff to china. 261 00:21:11,483 --> 00:21:15,151 Bourque: It starts backing up. It's not getting exported, 262 00:21:15,153 --> 00:21:17,153 So what's going to happen with it? 263 00:21:35,907 --> 00:21:42,512 When the ban happened in china, businessmen went to thailand, 264 00:21:42,514 --> 00:21:44,447 Vietnam, or other countries. 265 00:21:49,221 --> 00:21:51,654 Bourque: A year ago, china was taking 10 times 266 00:21:51,656 --> 00:21:53,857 The amount of plastic they're taking today. 267 00:21:56,228 --> 00:21:59,362 And that is a massive amount of plastic. 268 00:22:04,302 --> 00:22:06,569 So if you think we're just going to take it from china 269 00:22:06,571 --> 00:22:11,007 And ship it to thailand or indonesia or vietnam, 270 00:22:11,009 --> 00:22:15,478 They don't have that kind of capacity today. 271 00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:17,514 So whatever kind of infrastructure 272 00:22:17,516 --> 00:22:21,985 Is being developed has got to be pretty ad hoc. 273 00:22:21,987 --> 00:22:24,120 You know, could range from somebody's backyard 274 00:22:24,122 --> 00:22:30,794 To a partly covered warehouse, and that is very concerning. 275 00:22:39,571 --> 00:22:45,275 From U.S. It's texas. 276 00:22:45,277 --> 00:22:47,343 Yeah, it's from australia. 277 00:22:47,345 --> 00:22:52,449 It's from toronto. Toronto. 278 00:22:55,454 --> 00:22:58,855 These are nestlé from U.K. 279 00:22:58,857 --> 00:23:02,425 Yeah, this one from oregon, from oregon. 280 00:23:02,427 --> 00:23:08,364 From new zealand, dunkin' donut. 281 00:23:08,366 --> 00:23:11,968 Radok is unilever. Teavana. 282 00:23:18,310 --> 00:23:22,679 What do you think somebody is really going to do with this? 283 00:23:22,681 --> 00:23:29,919 It's all different colors. It's got film and plastic. 284 00:23:29,921 --> 00:23:33,790 You got seven different kinds of resin. 285 00:23:33,792 --> 00:23:39,596 This stuff's been printed on, so there's ink in the plastic. 286 00:23:39,598 --> 00:23:44,834 You know what -- what are you really going to make with it? 287 00:23:44,836 --> 00:23:47,604 And they have to be able to tell the difference 288 00:23:47,606 --> 00:23:53,943 Between this clear plastic and this clear plastic, 289 00:23:53,945 --> 00:23:59,015 Which look the same to you and me, but they're not. 290 00:23:59,017 --> 00:24:01,651 And so, how do they do that? 291 00:24:01,653 --> 00:24:06,589 They have special tests. They can -- they can hear it, 292 00:24:06,591 --> 00:24:10,360 Or they'll light it on fire and smell the smoke. 293 00:24:10,362 --> 00:24:12,295 That's got to be good for your health. 294 00:24:47,132 --> 00:24:48,598 Bourque: When you sort this stuff out, 295 00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:52,235 The next thing then is to take those sorted materials 296 00:24:52,237 --> 00:24:55,772 And chip it up into a little quarter-size flake, 297 00:24:55,774 --> 00:24:58,508 Is what they call it, and then wash it. 298 00:25:02,147 --> 00:25:04,447 Well, what's happening with all that wash water? 299 00:25:04,449 --> 00:25:07,450 Is that just getting dumped into somebody else's drinking water 300 00:25:07,452 --> 00:25:10,286 Or is it being dumped into an estuary 301 00:25:10,288 --> 00:25:15,191 And polluting the estuary with soaps and food and poisons? 302 00:25:20,298 --> 00:25:21,931 And what about when you melt the plastic? 303 00:25:21,933 --> 00:25:24,500 Because the next thing you do is you take that flake 304 00:25:24,502 --> 00:25:26,035 And you melt it down 305 00:25:26,037 --> 00:25:29,238 And extrude it out into these long spaghetti chains 306 00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:33,109 And then you chop those up into little pellets or nurdles. 307 00:25:35,447 --> 00:25:37,647 And when you melt it, a lot of these plastics 308 00:25:37,649 --> 00:25:41,084 Release toxic volatile organic compounds, vocs, 309 00:25:41,086 --> 00:25:43,453 That are not good to breathe. 310 00:25:46,791 --> 00:25:50,226 The problem is that there is no place for this stuff to go. 311 00:28:06,698 --> 00:28:09,799 The most difficult part of waste sorting is done 312 00:28:09,801 --> 00:28:11,901 By the waste picker who are mostly women, 313 00:28:11,903 --> 00:28:13,436 Mostly marginalized. 314 00:28:13,438 --> 00:28:16,806 And they also get the least benefit from the system. 315 00:28:18,543 --> 00:28:21,477 If they were not there, the entire recycling pyramid 316 00:28:21,479 --> 00:28:23,513 Would have collapsed. 317 00:28:25,717 --> 00:28:28,284 If we go back 16, 17 years, 318 00:28:28,286 --> 00:28:31,087 There was not so much plastic that was found. 319 00:28:31,089 --> 00:28:34,157 It was mostly metal, iron, aluminum. 320 00:28:34,159 --> 00:28:36,058 Now they are doing 321 00:28:36,060 --> 00:28:40,263 83 kind of separation within plastic itself. 322 00:29:27,212 --> 00:29:29,512 We had double digits in asia pacific, 323 00:29:29,514 --> 00:29:32,114 We have double digits in other parts of the world. 324 00:29:32,116 --> 00:29:34,317 But it's because you've got a growing economy 325 00:29:34,319 --> 00:29:35,818 And you've got a change in markets. 326 00:29:35,820 --> 00:29:38,855 People are moving from fresh foods 327 00:29:38,857 --> 00:29:41,090 That are not processed to packaged. 328 00:29:41,092 --> 00:29:45,127 Things like fast foods packaged food, processed foods, 329 00:29:45,129 --> 00:29:50,333 These are new to india because indians like to eat fresh food. 330 00:29:50,335 --> 00:29:53,703 India is a place where people naturally reuse things, 331 00:29:53,705 --> 00:29:57,707 Nothing was torn away. It is not a throwaway society 332 00:29:57,709 --> 00:30:01,377 Because it is not a consumerist society to begin with. 333 00:30:01,379 --> 00:30:05,147 That sense of thrift, that sense of carefulness, 334 00:30:05,149 --> 00:30:07,350 That respectful materials is going away, 335 00:30:07,352 --> 00:30:09,051 And that's a terrible loss. 336 00:30:10,570 --> 00:30:13,571 The industry likes to talk about all the advanced products 337 00:30:13,573 --> 00:30:16,341 And lifesaving devices the plastics contribute to, 338 00:30:16,343 --> 00:30:17,909 Which is true. 339 00:30:17,911 --> 00:30:20,178 Narrator: From heart valves to helmets, 340 00:30:20,180 --> 00:30:23,948 Can you think of one material that does more? 341 00:30:23,950 --> 00:30:28,386 But what makes up the bulk of demand for plastic right now 342 00:30:28,388 --> 00:30:30,054 Is packaging. 343 00:30:30,056 --> 00:30:32,223 Pieces of plastic that will get used once 344 00:30:32,225 --> 00:30:34,392 And thrown away and never used again, 345 00:30:34,394 --> 00:30:38,229 And in most cases, never cleaned up. 346 00:30:38,231 --> 00:30:40,632 Shibu k n: The fast-moving consumer goods in india. 347 00:30:40,634 --> 00:30:43,902 Almost 100% are packed in one-time use plastics. 348 00:30:43,904 --> 00:30:47,372 For example, one rupee sachet for a shampoo, 349 00:30:47,374 --> 00:30:51,509 Or one rupee sachet with oil. 350 00:30:51,511 --> 00:30:54,813 They want them essentially to capture 351 00:30:54,815 --> 00:30:57,315 The poor sectors of the market, and to do that, 352 00:30:57,317 --> 00:31:00,084 They came up with sachets. 353 00:31:00,086 --> 00:31:02,854 Sachets are multi-layers of materials -- 354 00:31:02,856 --> 00:31:05,657 Plastic, aluminum, or a bit of paper, 355 00:31:05,659 --> 00:31:08,760 It comes in small volume for a single use 356 00:31:08,762 --> 00:31:11,029 And is meant to be disposed right after. 357 00:31:14,265 --> 00:31:15,998 Shibu k n: When these global companies came in, 358 00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:17,666 We were happy to see that. 359 00:31:17,668 --> 00:31:20,636 Okay, we are also getting the same quality of life 360 00:31:20,638 --> 00:31:22,004 Enjoyed by the west. 361 00:31:22,006 --> 00:31:25,073 And now we realize that there is a double standard. 362 00:31:38,088 --> 00:31:41,056 Alvarés: Working in this global movement is allowing us 363 00:31:41,058 --> 00:31:43,058 To point out the companies in europe, 364 00:31:43,060 --> 00:31:45,160 When they have this green discord, 365 00:31:45,162 --> 00:31:49,498 And we can tell them this is maybe what you're doing here, 366 00:31:49,500 --> 00:31:51,300 But this is not what you're doing 367 00:31:51,302 --> 00:31:52,968 In other parts of the world. 368 00:31:52,970 --> 00:31:54,870 And if you want to be credible, 369 00:31:54,872 --> 00:31:58,073 You will have to align your actions 370 00:31:58,075 --> 00:32:02,377 Everywhere with what you're saying. 371 00:32:02,379 --> 00:32:05,080 So this is head and shoulders, body ninja, 372 00:32:05,082 --> 00:32:07,349 It's multi-layered, it's non-recyclable. 373 00:32:07,351 --> 00:32:10,953 And this is what we find on the shelves in belgium 374 00:32:10,955 --> 00:32:12,221 And in most of europe. 375 00:32:12,223 --> 00:32:15,290 So the same product, same brand, same company, 376 00:32:15,292 --> 00:32:18,260 Different format, recyclable bottle. 377 00:32:18,262 --> 00:32:21,063 The producer has paid a fee to cover 378 00:32:21,065 --> 00:32:23,532 Part of the waste collection and waste management costs. 379 00:32:23,534 --> 00:32:26,735 While here, you have absolutely nothing. 380 00:32:26,737 --> 00:32:28,303 It's not covered at all. 381 00:32:28,305 --> 00:32:30,205 So, yeah, in the very country 382 00:32:30,207 --> 00:32:33,075 Where they have to implement waste management 383 00:32:33,077 --> 00:32:35,911 And waste collection system and they need money 384 00:32:35,913 --> 00:32:38,380 And funding to build these infrastructures, 385 00:32:38,382 --> 00:32:40,082 The producers are not contributing 386 00:32:40,084 --> 00:32:42,417 To the end of life of this product, 387 00:32:42,419 --> 00:32:46,688 While in europe applying a double standard, they are. 388 00:32:46,690 --> 00:32:48,991 Ironically, asia has been identified 389 00:32:48,993 --> 00:32:52,561 As a key source of the problem of plastic pollution -- 390 00:32:52,563 --> 00:32:54,162 The oceans... 391 00:32:54,164 --> 00:32:56,932 About 60% of plastic in the ocean 392 00:32:56,934 --> 00:33:01,136 Comes from five countries in southeast asia. 393 00:33:01,138 --> 00:33:03,572 Hernandez: ...When in fact the decisions are made in the boardrooms 394 00:33:03,574 --> 00:33:07,309 Of companies in the west. 395 00:33:07,311 --> 00:33:09,311 There's a real problem of blame 396 00:33:09,313 --> 00:33:11,647 When it comes to plastic pollution. 397 00:33:11,649 --> 00:33:14,249 When you have companies like unilever, 398 00:33:14,251 --> 00:33:15,851 Nestlé, and procter and gamble 399 00:33:15,853 --> 00:33:18,053 And all of these other multinationals 400 00:33:18,055 --> 00:33:19,655 Going into these markets 401 00:33:19,657 --> 00:33:25,394 Aggressively marketing single service products on populations 402 00:33:25,396 --> 00:33:27,596 That have no way of dealing with it. 403 00:33:27,598 --> 00:33:29,598 Maybe just not so long ago, 404 00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:33,335 Everything was packaged in natural products. 405 00:33:33,337 --> 00:33:35,404 Maybe they live on a tiny island 406 00:33:35,406 --> 00:33:38,707 That doesn't have a formalized system of waste collection. 407 00:33:38,709 --> 00:33:41,276 And then you're saying that they're at fault for this. 408 00:33:41,278 --> 00:33:42,644 And on top of that, 409 00:33:42,646 --> 00:33:47,950 We are shipping our waste there to be treated. 410 00:33:47,952 --> 00:33:50,652 This is absolutely a western problem 411 00:33:50,654 --> 00:33:53,722 That we have exported to other parts of the world, 412 00:33:53,724 --> 00:33:56,391 And now we have the cheek to say that they are the problem. 413 00:34:01,132 --> 00:34:03,399 Pampers? 414 00:34:03,401 --> 00:34:06,202 No washing, no mess, you just use them once. 415 00:34:06,204 --> 00:34:08,671 Narrator: Pampers, procter and gamble discovery 416 00:34:08,673 --> 00:34:10,840 That makes diapers old fashioned. 417 00:34:10,842 --> 00:34:13,409 Just follow the directions and flush away. 418 00:35:33,057 --> 00:35:36,058 Carpenter: One of the biggest questions that we're facing is, 419 00:35:36,060 --> 00:35:40,796 "how do we get out of the fossil fuel economy?" 420 00:35:40,798 --> 00:35:42,965 I've heard some criticism 421 00:35:42,967 --> 00:35:45,301 That the concern about plastic pollution 422 00:35:45,303 --> 00:35:48,604 Is a distraction from the bigger problem of climate change. 423 00:35:50,741 --> 00:35:52,074 But my conclusion from doing this 424 00:35:52,076 --> 00:35:54,777 Reporting is it's all part of the same problem. 425 00:36:03,254 --> 00:36:06,856 Presently, we've discovered that the seven most produced 426 00:36:06,858 --> 00:36:10,960 And consumed types of plastic produce greenhouse gases. 427 00:36:10,962 --> 00:36:14,130 As plastic degrades in the environment, 428 00:36:14,132 --> 00:36:17,933 It would just be producing more and more gases with time. 429 00:36:20,304 --> 00:36:22,738 Alvarés: We are really making the connection 430 00:36:22,740 --> 00:36:24,507 Between the plastics issue 431 00:36:24,509 --> 00:36:27,076 And what's happening with the climate movement 432 00:36:27,078 --> 00:36:31,180 Because all of their efforts can be completely offset 433 00:36:31,182 --> 00:36:33,082 By the fact that the fossil fuel 434 00:36:33,084 --> 00:36:36,018 That we're not using anymore for transport and energy 435 00:36:36,020 --> 00:36:37,853 Is now being used to produce cheap plastics, 436 00:36:37,855 --> 00:36:39,655 And it's going to be burnt and is going to release 437 00:36:39,657 --> 00:36:41,190 Co2 in the atmosphere. 438 00:36:43,427 --> 00:36:44,827 Simon: If we don't do things right, 439 00:36:44,829 --> 00:36:47,930 All this plastic might end up in incinerators. 440 00:36:47,932 --> 00:36:50,499 And that's something we'll have to watch closely. 441 00:36:50,501 --> 00:36:52,101 It's a real danger. 442 00:37:05,616 --> 00:37:07,116 More and more community leaders, 443 00:37:07,118 --> 00:37:09,351 Entrepreneurs, and people like you and me 444 00:37:09,353 --> 00:37:11,787 Are starting to think about trash 445 00:37:11,789 --> 00:37:13,756 As a valuable energy resource. 446 00:37:13,758 --> 00:37:17,293 It's called energy recovery, and simply put, 447 00:37:17,295 --> 00:37:21,497 It's the process that turns solid waste into energy. 448 00:37:21,499 --> 00:37:25,634 Sounds good, maybe, 449 00:37:25,636 --> 00:37:30,072 But there's also a lot of toxic crap in there 450 00:37:30,074 --> 00:37:31,840 That you don't want in your air. 451 00:37:51,229 --> 00:37:53,262 The first thing we do when we get up is 452 00:37:53,264 --> 00:37:55,397 Look out of the window to see how much smoke 453 00:37:55,399 --> 00:37:56,999 Is coming out of that plant. 454 00:37:57,001 --> 00:38:00,636 It's like living next to a volcano, actually. 455 00:38:00,638 --> 00:38:02,171 You know, you never know. 456 00:38:02,173 --> 00:38:04,907 Sometimes large copious amounts of smoke 457 00:38:04,909 --> 00:38:06,542 Come out of these two chimneys. 458 00:38:06,544 --> 00:38:10,379 They can be seen for miles around. 459 00:38:10,381 --> 00:38:14,350 It burns 2,000 tons of unsegregated waste per day. 460 00:38:14,352 --> 00:38:17,419 A large component of that is just plastic. 461 00:38:21,192 --> 00:38:23,626 It's a cocktail of every kind of dangerous thing 462 00:38:23,628 --> 00:38:24,994 That you can think of -- 463 00:38:24,996 --> 00:38:31,567 Dioxins, furans, lead, cadmium, mercury, all of that. 464 00:38:31,569 --> 00:38:34,270 They send samples of the flash to a lab in london, 465 00:38:34,272 --> 00:38:39,008 They said, "please evacuate immediately." 466 00:38:39,010 --> 00:38:40,643 That's what it said. 467 00:38:43,714 --> 00:38:46,849 Misra: We have seen a lot of changes since the incident at cayman. 468 00:38:46,851 --> 00:38:49,485 You find a lot of people who never ever had 469 00:38:49,487 --> 00:38:51,420 Any respiratory problem, 470 00:38:51,422 --> 00:38:54,623 They are coming with respiratory distress. 471 00:38:54,625 --> 00:38:56,759 Then there's severe dermatitis 472 00:38:56,761 --> 00:39:00,663 And a lot of skin rashes, which were not there before. 473 00:39:00,665 --> 00:39:04,566 These dioxins cause infertility and even long-term effects 474 00:39:04,568 --> 00:39:06,068 On our fetuses. 475 00:39:06,070 --> 00:39:08,537 They are hormone disrupters, 476 00:39:08,539 --> 00:39:11,907 And also, they are carcinogenic. 477 00:39:11,909 --> 00:39:14,043 And that is proven. There's nothing to be proved. 478 00:39:15,613 --> 00:39:19,548 It started so gradually that we did not notice the process. 479 00:39:19,550 --> 00:39:23,085 But now that we look back, it's so clear. 480 00:39:23,087 --> 00:39:25,654 I grew up here, so I have a lot of memories 481 00:39:25,656 --> 00:39:27,256 Attached to this place. 482 00:39:27,258 --> 00:39:30,259 Before I remember, we used to play outside, 483 00:39:30,261 --> 00:39:33,429 And now, kids stopped coming outside and playing. 484 00:39:33,431 --> 00:39:38,100 So that is how we were caged inside our own homes. 485 00:39:38,102 --> 00:39:39,668 When I went to the doctor, 486 00:39:39,670 --> 00:39:41,737 He told me it looks from your lungs 487 00:39:41,739 --> 00:39:44,907 That either you're a smoker or you work in the mines. 488 00:39:47,078 --> 00:39:50,446 Devraj: The plant projects itself as doing a great service 489 00:39:50,448 --> 00:39:53,115 To the community by getting rid of their garbage, 490 00:39:53,117 --> 00:39:54,850 But this is the wrong way to do it. 491 00:39:57,488 --> 00:39:59,254 The main thing that this incinerator does 492 00:39:59,256 --> 00:40:02,958 Is it reduces the volume of your garbage, 493 00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:06,128 So you're having a mountain of garbage, 494 00:40:06,130 --> 00:40:08,797 You have a hillock of fly ash and bottom ash, 495 00:40:08,799 --> 00:40:10,699 Which is very, very toxic. 496 00:40:13,371 --> 00:40:15,204 They don't want the recycling to happen. 497 00:40:15,206 --> 00:40:17,306 They chase away the waste pickers. 498 00:40:17,308 --> 00:40:21,110 They need that plastic, so they burn everything else. 499 00:40:21,112 --> 00:40:23,512 Plastic burns and burns very well 500 00:40:23,514 --> 00:40:26,115 Because it's made of petrochemicals. 501 00:40:26,117 --> 00:40:27,683 They want you to use more plastic 502 00:40:27,685 --> 00:40:29,752 Because that's what is their fuel. 503 00:40:34,458 --> 00:40:39,161 It's basically our trash monster that will just desperately eat 504 00:40:39,163 --> 00:40:40,996 As much plastic as it can, 505 00:40:40,998 --> 00:40:45,734 And not only will it be happy to get non-recyclable packaging, 506 00:40:45,736 --> 00:40:49,138 But all the plastic that's going for recycling currently 507 00:40:49,140 --> 00:40:52,674 Will essentially be institutionally diverted, 508 00:40:52,676 --> 00:40:55,043 Even if it's at the cost of the environment, 509 00:40:55,045 --> 00:40:58,447 Human development, and economic inclusion. 510 00:41:04,822 --> 00:41:06,989 Carpenter: Groups that have been fighting local struggles 511 00:41:06,991 --> 00:41:11,994 Against particular segments of the fossil fuel economy 512 00:41:11,996 --> 00:41:14,730 Are now linking together in this much broader movement 513 00:41:14,732 --> 00:41:18,367 That looks at the whole chain of damage 514 00:41:18,369 --> 00:41:23,305 From resource extraction to waste incinerators. 515 00:41:23,307 --> 00:41:27,009 These disparate struggles that seem unconnected -- 516 00:41:27,011 --> 00:41:28,143 A neighborhood in the philippines 517 00:41:28,145 --> 00:41:30,479 That's awash in plastic trash, 518 00:41:30,481 --> 00:41:37,519 A pipeline in pennsylvania, a single refinery in texas -- 519 00:41:37,521 --> 00:41:40,355 They're all part of this web of plastics infrastructure 520 00:41:40,357 --> 00:41:43,258 That is all working together to massively increase 521 00:41:43,260 --> 00:41:45,627 The amount of plastics out in the world. 522 00:41:52,503 --> 00:41:55,103 Bourque: Why is it that we're seeing so much more plastics 523 00:41:55,105 --> 00:41:56,205 Entering the environment? 524 00:41:57,842 --> 00:42:00,108 I just wanna say one word to you. 525 00:42:00,110 --> 00:42:03,078 Just one word... 526 00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:04,780 Fracking. 527 00:42:04,782 --> 00:42:08,550 It's making natural gas cheaper than it's ever been. 528 00:42:08,552 --> 00:42:11,653 We're talking about double digit gains in businesses 529 00:42:11,655 --> 00:42:14,523 That I didn't think had even single-digit growth. 530 00:42:14,525 --> 00:42:16,058 How are you putting up these numbers? 531 00:42:16,060 --> 00:42:17,993 Well, we have a very focused team, jim. 532 00:42:17,995 --> 00:42:20,929 We also built a lot of assets on the U.S. Gulf coast 533 00:42:20,931 --> 00:42:22,998 To take advantage of shale gas. 534 00:42:35,779 --> 00:42:39,381 Bush: The energy policy act of 2005, provides incentives 535 00:42:39,383 --> 00:42:43,886 For oil refineries to expand their capacity. 536 00:42:43,888 --> 00:42:45,320 The bill includes tax incentives 537 00:42:45,322 --> 00:42:49,491 To encourage new construction of natural gas pipelines. 538 00:42:49,493 --> 00:42:51,727 The united states, north america sits on 539 00:42:51,729 --> 00:42:54,897 A very large hydrocarbon resource base. 540 00:42:54,899 --> 00:42:58,467 When we see the fact that we have low-priced natural gas, 541 00:42:58,469 --> 00:43:01,770 Which we think will be around for a long time, 542 00:43:01,772 --> 00:43:04,473 That is leading to a flood of new investments. 543 00:43:06,410 --> 00:43:09,111 If we have availability of cheap fossil fuel, 544 00:43:09,113 --> 00:43:11,947 We're going to have availability of dirty chemicals 545 00:43:11,949 --> 00:43:13,549 And of cheap plastics. 546 00:43:13,551 --> 00:43:16,385 Maximizing the value of all the molecules 547 00:43:16,387 --> 00:43:17,653 From a barrel crude oil, 548 00:43:17,655 --> 00:43:19,521 That's been foundational for how we've approached 549 00:43:19,523 --> 00:43:21,957 The chemical business for decades. 550 00:43:23,294 --> 00:43:25,093 And this is where the show 551 00:43:25,095 --> 00:43:30,132 In the totals, you know, comes from -- comes from petrol, 552 00:43:30,134 --> 00:43:31,266 Oil and gas. 553 00:43:31,268 --> 00:43:34,937 -It's plastic. -Is that a freaking straw? 554 00:43:34,939 --> 00:43:36,738 I'm so sorry, baby. 555 00:43:41,720 --> 00:43:44,654 Villa: Watt: I think people don't necessarily think about 556 00:43:44,656 --> 00:43:50,527 What plastics are made of, where plastics come from, 557 00:43:50,529 --> 00:43:53,663 Other than on the shelf of like a grocery store 558 00:43:53,665 --> 00:43:55,632 Or some sort of a market. 559 00:43:55,634 --> 00:43:58,568 But the reality is that the chemicals that are needed 560 00:43:58,570 --> 00:44:02,872 To create plastics come from the shale formations 561 00:44:02,874 --> 00:44:06,643 From these oil and gas pockets in the rock. 562 00:44:06,645 --> 00:44:08,845 You can't talk about one without the other. 563 00:44:16,288 --> 00:44:17,787 In these oil and gas pockets, 564 00:44:17,789 --> 00:44:21,958 You also have chemicals like benzene and toulene 565 00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:24,027 And ethyl benzene and xylene 566 00:44:24,029 --> 00:44:27,397 That are all extremely harmful for your health. 567 00:44:29,835 --> 00:44:32,802 Plastics doesn't just cause pollution in the ocean 568 00:44:32,804 --> 00:44:36,039 Or on the ground, it's also causing pollution 569 00:44:36,041 --> 00:44:38,842 Where it's coming from at the point of extraction. 570 00:44:48,487 --> 00:44:52,422 I work with community members that are living 500 feet 571 00:44:52,424 --> 00:44:57,527 From a facility that's the size of a football field. 572 00:44:57,529 --> 00:45:00,830 Now some of the residents depend on medication 573 00:45:00,832 --> 00:45:04,768 To get through the day because their headaches are so bad, 574 00:45:04,770 --> 00:45:07,103 Or they have chronic respiratory issues 575 00:45:07,105 --> 00:45:08,905 And so they can't breathe. 576 00:45:11,043 --> 00:45:13,877 Their lives were dramatically changed 577 00:45:13,879 --> 00:45:16,579 Over a period of five or six years. 578 00:45:21,620 --> 00:45:23,586 Man: This is our dream home. 579 00:45:23,588 --> 00:45:26,056 We thought we were coming into a great area 580 00:45:26,058 --> 00:45:28,858 To where we could live out our years, 581 00:45:28,860 --> 00:45:32,262 And then this stuff started turning up. 582 00:45:32,264 --> 00:45:33,496 You're not showing my face, are you? 583 00:45:33,498 --> 00:45:35,965 -No. -Okay. 584 00:45:39,538 --> 00:45:45,408 The pollution has gotten way out of hand. 585 00:45:45,410 --> 00:45:47,410 Everybody has to drink bottled water. 586 00:45:47,412 --> 00:45:49,946 There's a water well on my place, 587 00:45:49,948 --> 00:45:51,381 We don't we don't drink the water because 588 00:45:51,383 --> 00:45:53,349 We know damn well we can't use that water. 589 00:45:55,153 --> 00:45:57,587 We don't know what's coming out of that flare, 590 00:45:57,589 --> 00:45:59,489 And they won't tell us. 591 00:45:59,491 --> 00:46:01,925 You know, I think that these oil companies are -- 592 00:46:01,927 --> 00:46:03,626 They think they're above the law. 593 00:46:08,333 --> 00:46:10,500 Carpenter: When we talk about a community like karnes county, 594 00:46:10,502 --> 00:46:14,904 We're talking about the effects of extracting for the chemicals 595 00:46:14,906 --> 00:46:16,806 That we need to make plastics. 596 00:46:31,089 --> 00:46:34,224 Pompeo: I spent a fair amount of time in the oil and gas industry. 597 00:46:34,226 --> 00:46:38,094 My time as secretary of state isn't that far removed 598 00:46:38,096 --> 00:46:40,430 From what I did running that small company. 599 00:46:40,432 --> 00:46:42,966 New drilling technology and greater energy output 600 00:46:42,968 --> 00:46:47,570 Are transforming american life and lives all around the world. 601 00:46:47,572 --> 00:46:50,473 It took our shale producers and risk takers 602 00:46:50,475 --> 00:46:53,109 And it took congress lifting the oil export ban in 2015, 603 00:46:53,111 --> 00:46:54,577 Which I voted for. 604 00:46:54,579 --> 00:46:57,747 You should all see me as I walk out and say thanks. 605 00:47:31,870 --> 00:47:36,105 Come here. Get over here. Get over here. 606 00:47:36,107 --> 00:47:39,108 My name is elise gerhart. I'm 31 years old. 607 00:47:39,110 --> 00:47:40,777 I live in huntington, pennsylvania. 608 00:47:40,779 --> 00:47:43,246 I was born here, raised here. 609 00:47:46,685 --> 00:47:49,819 My mom called me to tell me happy birthday. 610 00:47:49,821 --> 00:47:53,256 And then she informed me that there was a company 611 00:47:53,258 --> 00:47:55,358 Who wanted to build a pipeline 612 00:47:55,360 --> 00:47:58,861 Through this property here where I grew up. 613 00:48:01,032 --> 00:48:03,099 So the mariner east project, 614 00:48:03,101 --> 00:48:07,337 It's a project built to transport natural gas liquids 615 00:48:07,339 --> 00:48:11,307 To an industrial complex near philadelphia. 616 00:48:11,309 --> 00:48:13,242 Those would go from the port there, 617 00:48:13,244 --> 00:48:15,111 All the way across the atlantic 618 00:48:15,113 --> 00:48:19,682 To a facility in scotland, so that they can make plastic. 619 00:48:22,253 --> 00:48:25,254 The company puts out all kinds of propaganda, 620 00:48:25,256 --> 00:48:28,124 Saying that the project has something to do 621 00:48:28,126 --> 00:48:31,060 With american energy independence, 622 00:48:31,062 --> 00:48:32,261 That it has to do with 623 00:48:32,263 --> 00:48:35,999 People heating their homes during the winter. 624 00:48:36,001 --> 00:48:38,534 And none of that is true. 625 00:48:38,536 --> 00:48:43,139 Narrator: America relies on energy. We get it to you safely. 626 00:48:43,141 --> 00:48:45,508 We are sunoco pipeline. 627 00:48:47,512 --> 00:48:48,978 Elise: It makes me really angry 628 00:48:48,980 --> 00:48:52,148 Because as soon as I started doing research on this project, 629 00:48:52,150 --> 00:48:55,084 It was very clear what the intent was. 630 00:48:55,086 --> 00:48:56,519 You know, it's publicly available, 631 00:48:56,521 --> 00:49:01,891 And yet, we have these judges saying that those companies 632 00:49:01,893 --> 00:49:07,163 Can take our property for their own private use to make plastic. 633 00:49:14,039 --> 00:49:17,540 I've only been paying attention to pipelines for a couple years 634 00:49:17,542 --> 00:49:20,309 And it seems to happen every couple of months. 635 00:49:20,311 --> 00:49:22,512 There's like an enormous pipeline explosion, 636 00:49:22,514 --> 00:49:24,480 Like a major incident. 637 00:49:31,456 --> 00:49:33,523 I mean, people's houses burning down, 638 00:49:33,525 --> 00:49:36,025 People being severely injured 639 00:49:36,027 --> 00:49:38,227 Reporter: A gas line outside columbus, ohio, 640 00:49:38,229 --> 00:49:39,862 Explodes, destroying two homes... 641 00:49:39,864 --> 00:49:41,164 Man: Did you see that explode? 642 00:49:41,166 --> 00:49:42,432 Reporter: Breaking news... 643 00:49:42,434 --> 00:49:45,168 Firefighters are racing to contain a deadly gas 644 00:49:45,170 --> 00:49:46,803 Explosion in kentucky. 645 00:49:46,805 --> 00:49:49,572 Flames spreading to homes, forcing evacuations. 646 00:49:51,076 --> 00:49:53,309 Elise: I don't know what it's going to feel like to try 647 00:49:53,311 --> 00:49:58,848 And live here every day knowing that a leak or explosion 648 00:49:58,850 --> 00:50:01,117 Could happen at any time with no warning 649 00:50:01,119 --> 00:50:03,019 Because you can't see it, you can't smell it, 650 00:50:03,021 --> 00:50:05,254 You don't know until it's too late. 651 00:50:06,189 --> 00:50:09,891 Elise: So myself and a couple other people 652 00:50:09,893 --> 00:50:14,328 Climbed into some of the trees and occupy them 653 00:50:14,330 --> 00:50:17,698 So that they couldn't cut them down. 654 00:50:17,700 --> 00:50:21,002 And we had lots of people just start coming through 655 00:50:21,004 --> 00:50:23,104 Who wanted to help out. 656 00:50:25,108 --> 00:50:26,774 But they try to intimidate people. 657 00:50:26,776 --> 00:50:28,609 I was followed to work. 658 00:50:28,611 --> 00:50:31,412 They flew drones up around the house 659 00:50:31,414 --> 00:50:33,848 Just looking at everything. 660 00:50:36,085 --> 00:50:39,320 Energy transfer partners paid someone to create 661 00:50:39,322 --> 00:50:43,090 This fake facebook page saying that I was an eco terrorist 662 00:50:43,092 --> 00:50:47,795 Trying to bring violence into my community 663 00:50:47,797 --> 00:50:51,365 And that I need to be stopped. 664 00:50:51,367 --> 00:50:53,768 They put my partner on there, 665 00:50:53,770 --> 00:50:56,237 They put friends of ours on there. 666 00:50:56,239 --> 00:51:00,441 They put our vehicles on there, posted our address. 667 00:51:00,443 --> 00:51:03,344 So I had people messaging us, 668 00:51:03,346 --> 00:51:08,049 Threatening to rape us, to kill us. 669 00:51:08,051 --> 00:51:11,385 I'm not that strong that that's not going to affect me. 670 00:51:14,023 --> 00:51:15,656 They've got endless resources. 671 00:51:15,658 --> 00:51:17,892 You know, we have to live our lives, 672 00:51:17,894 --> 00:51:20,795 Like I had to go to work. 673 00:51:20,797 --> 00:51:24,966 So they came, they cut down the trees. 674 00:51:28,538 --> 00:51:31,672 Even if you can talk to people and explain to them 675 00:51:31,674 --> 00:51:34,175 That this isn't carrying home heating fuel, 676 00:51:34,177 --> 00:51:37,044 It's not carrying gasoline for your car. 677 00:51:37,046 --> 00:51:38,613 Then people start bringing in these arguments 678 00:51:38,615 --> 00:51:40,982 About plastic and about how plastic 679 00:51:40,984 --> 00:51:43,851 Is everywhere in our everyday lives, 680 00:51:43,853 --> 00:51:46,754 So we must need it. 681 00:51:46,756 --> 00:51:48,723 I think people have a hard time 682 00:51:48,725 --> 00:51:52,727 Picturing what life would be like without plastic, 683 00:51:52,729 --> 00:51:55,897 And that's where I think more people are actually duped. 684 00:52:04,774 --> 00:52:07,408 Arellano: Houston is the home of the largest petrochemical complex 685 00:52:07,410 --> 00:52:09,977 In the nation. 686 00:52:09,979 --> 00:52:12,580 This is what plastic smells like. 687 00:52:12,582 --> 00:52:14,849 This is what plastic feels like. 688 00:52:14,851 --> 00:52:20,021 This is what plastic looks like from our end. 689 00:52:30,833 --> 00:52:35,937 Some of the daily emissions include benzene, styrene, 690 00:52:35,939 --> 00:52:40,474 1,3-butadiene, hydrogen sulfide, hydrogen cyanide. 691 00:52:42,745 --> 00:52:45,446 What we have tried to put in place here is again, 692 00:52:45,448 --> 00:52:51,152 Is a model that will ensure that epa prioritizes chemicals. 693 00:52:51,154 --> 00:52:53,588 Arellano: Most of these chemicals are not monitored 694 00:52:53,590 --> 00:52:54,989 And there are more chemicals 695 00:52:54,991 --> 00:52:59,594 That are delisted from epa's watchlist than they are added. 696 00:53:02,298 --> 00:53:04,765 I want to thank administrator curry 697 00:53:04,767 --> 00:53:06,334 From the epa, 698 00:53:06,336 --> 00:53:09,904 All the great folks who have helped us to clear the way 699 00:53:09,906 --> 00:53:11,172 So that exxon mobil 700 00:53:11,174 --> 00:53:14,942 Can make this multi-billion dollar investment. 701 00:53:16,479 --> 00:53:20,548 It's not uncommon to talk to folks in the community 702 00:53:20,550 --> 00:53:24,986 And have multiple stories of childhood leukemia, 703 00:53:24,988 --> 00:53:28,889 Brain cancer, low birth weights, or sterility, 704 00:53:28,891 --> 00:53:31,025 Lack of motor skills, developmental issues, 705 00:53:31,027 --> 00:53:33,561 Speech impediments. 706 00:53:33,563 --> 00:53:37,665 We have reduced our air emissions at this site 707 00:53:37,667 --> 00:53:43,404 By about 50%. I have never seen a project 708 00:53:43,406 --> 00:53:49,176 With a better economic and environmental story. 709 00:53:49,178 --> 00:53:52,480 Arellano: Every time epa's watchlist shrinks, 710 00:53:52,482 --> 00:53:54,615 Air quality gets better. Why? 711 00:53:54,617 --> 00:53:56,651 Because it's not being monitored. 712 00:54:11,901 --> 00:54:14,468 Both of my parents are immigrants. 713 00:54:14,470 --> 00:54:18,572 They left mexico to make our lives better. 714 00:54:18,574 --> 00:54:23,577 Their parents left the rural parts of mexico 715 00:54:23,579 --> 00:54:29,116 To go into the cities because life in rural mexico 716 00:54:29,118 --> 00:54:34,355 Was difficult because oil companies were going in... 717 00:54:41,464 --> 00:54:43,564 That story isn't done. 718 00:54:43,566 --> 00:54:45,433 There's another family that's living with that, 719 00:54:45,435 --> 00:54:48,602 And there's another family that's living next to a refinery 720 00:54:48,604 --> 00:54:51,072 And there is another family that's struggling. 721 00:54:59,215 --> 00:55:04,218 It takes outside organizations to come in to inform residents 722 00:55:04,220 --> 00:55:07,555 About what they are living with on a daily basis. 723 00:55:11,360 --> 00:55:15,896 So we are in the east end. It is a cultural hub 724 00:55:15,898 --> 00:55:17,898 For everything mexican. 725 00:55:17,900 --> 00:55:20,768 You have the art, you have the food. 726 00:55:20,770 --> 00:55:23,404 It's a place brimming with culture. 727 00:55:23,406 --> 00:55:25,639 It's a beautiful place. 728 00:55:25,641 --> 00:55:28,375 And we are down the street from a valero plant. 729 00:55:28,377 --> 00:55:33,647 That's what there is a lot of here, a lot of plants. 730 00:55:33,649 --> 00:55:35,816 I think the farthest that I've ever lived from a planet 731 00:55:35,818 --> 00:55:38,319 Has been 2 1/2 miles. 732 00:55:47,063 --> 00:55:50,631 My friends are having kids and it's, hey, you know, 733 00:55:50,633 --> 00:55:55,603 So and so's kid has cancer, so and so's kid has leukemia. 734 00:55:55,605 --> 00:55:58,639 And it's sad that that's our new normal. 735 00:56:25,868 --> 00:56:29,236 I'm just going to start running it through here. 736 00:56:29,238 --> 00:56:32,673 Okay, I'm bringing it in. Just see what we got. 737 00:56:32,675 --> 00:56:36,710 Oh, god. Yeah. There's all kinds of pellets. 738 00:56:36,712 --> 00:56:42,316 Diane, you want this? -Yeah, we'll take a sample. 739 00:56:42,318 --> 00:56:46,487 We've found fish with pellets in their gullets. 740 00:56:46,489 --> 00:56:49,657 We've had oystermen who say they -- 741 00:56:49,659 --> 00:56:51,559 When they're shucking open an oyster, 742 00:56:51,561 --> 00:56:54,361 They're finding pellets inside it. 743 00:56:58,367 --> 00:57:01,101 On the bay, you got from formosa plastic, 744 00:57:01,103 --> 00:57:05,139 We got invisto, we got bp, we got dupont, 745 00:57:05,141 --> 00:57:09,276 We've got dow chemical, you add all of that up, 746 00:57:09,278 --> 00:57:13,480 Easily, you can get 50 million gallons 747 00:57:13,482 --> 00:57:19,320 A day of toxins being discharged into estuaries. 748 00:57:23,526 --> 00:57:27,428 Hamrick: I worked 25 years at the plant as a supervisor, 749 00:57:27,430 --> 00:57:29,964 But I had to get out of there 750 00:57:29,966 --> 00:57:32,466 Because I got tired of the bull crap, lying for 'em 751 00:57:32,468 --> 00:57:34,235 Because that's all you do out there at that plant 752 00:57:34,237 --> 00:57:36,003 Is lie. 753 00:57:36,005 --> 00:57:39,139 And, you know, nobody out there can speak. 754 00:57:39,141 --> 00:57:41,141 They'll fire you right on the spot. 755 00:57:48,084 --> 00:57:52,253 Wilson: You can pull anything up and find pellets. 756 00:57:52,255 --> 00:57:53,621 See all the pellets? 757 00:57:53,623 --> 00:57:56,724 It's covered in pellets. 758 00:57:56,726 --> 00:57:58,993 You look down there, there's a harbor down there. 759 00:57:58,995 --> 00:58:00,628 There's no fish houses anymore. 760 00:58:00,630 --> 00:58:05,866 There's no shrimpers. You gotta do something. 761 00:58:05,868 --> 00:58:10,471 So we just started sampling. 762 00:58:10,473 --> 00:58:13,240 And eventually, we filed the suit. 763 00:58:16,879 --> 00:58:20,714 When I first started, I had a helicopter land 764 00:58:20,716 --> 00:58:25,185 In my front yard, shot and killed the dog. 765 00:58:25,187 --> 00:58:32,059 Shot at the house, and then my shrimp boat was sabotaged. 766 00:58:32,061 --> 00:58:34,762 So, they did a few things. 767 00:58:45,641 --> 00:58:50,244 I don't think my story is unique at all. 768 00:58:50,246 --> 00:58:54,915 I think there are thousands in little rural communities 769 00:58:54,917 --> 00:58:56,884 Where the company has a heavy hand, 770 00:58:56,886 --> 00:58:59,987 Especially along the gulf coast. 771 00:59:06,662 --> 00:59:08,896 Muffett: What's going on here in houston highlights 772 00:59:08,898 --> 00:59:12,866 Not only the scale of the problem, but its immediacy, 773 00:59:12,868 --> 00:59:15,235 The oil and gas industry, 774 00:59:15,237 --> 00:59:17,004 The american petroleum institute, 775 00:59:17,006 --> 00:59:20,841 The american chemistry council, they see the shale gas boom 776 00:59:20,843 --> 00:59:25,045 As a renaissance for plastics and petrochemicals in the U.S. 777 00:59:25,047 --> 00:59:28,916 Exxonmobil estimates that the global demand for chemicals 778 00:59:28,918 --> 00:59:32,119 Will double within the next 20 years. 779 00:59:32,121 --> 00:59:36,090 That's more than the forecast for energy and gdp growth 780 00:59:36,092 --> 00:59:38,359 Over the same period. 781 00:59:38,361 --> 00:59:40,361 They're doubling down on plastics. 782 00:59:40,363 --> 00:59:42,963 I think they're worried that we're going to stop burning 783 00:59:42,965 --> 00:59:45,632 So much fossil fuel. 784 00:59:45,634 --> 00:59:48,836 I hope that's their worry and I hope they're right. 785 00:59:48,838 --> 00:59:52,706 But I think they see plastic as a way to hedge their bet. 786 00:59:52,708 --> 00:59:56,010 Our expectation is global fuel's demand growth 787 00:59:56,012 --> 00:59:58,178 Will actually start to decline, 788 00:59:58,180 --> 01:00:01,648 And so, where would you anticipate additional growth 789 01:00:01,650 --> 01:00:03,984 In one place is petrochemical market. 790 01:00:03,986 --> 01:00:06,220 Plastics and other petrochemicals present 791 01:00:06,222 --> 01:00:09,256 An opportunity for these big integrated oil majors 792 01:00:09,258 --> 01:00:11,725 To keep up demand. 793 01:00:11,727 --> 01:00:15,062 And so we're really seeing this trend towards investment 794 01:00:15,064 --> 01:00:16,997 In the petrochemical space. 795 01:00:19,435 --> 01:00:20,734 During the course of these meetings, 796 01:00:20,736 --> 01:00:24,171 President trump and members of his cabinet agreed 797 01:00:24,173 --> 01:00:27,875 The U.S.-Saudi partnership should be taken to new heights. 798 01:00:43,225 --> 01:00:45,793 Muffett: The latest estimate from the american chemistry council 799 01:00:45,795 --> 01:00:48,028 Is that $194 billion 800 01:00:48,030 --> 01:00:51,665 Will be invested in the U.S. Into 325 new 801 01:00:51,667 --> 01:00:54,768 Or expanded facilities for petrochemicals, 802 01:00:54,770 --> 01:00:56,403 Primarily for plastics 803 01:00:56,405 --> 01:01:00,874 Between now and 2025. That's a remarkable expansion. 804 01:01:00,876 --> 01:01:03,744 We're already producing more plastics in the united states 805 01:01:03,746 --> 01:01:05,079 Than we can use. 806 01:01:05,081 --> 01:01:08,048 So the question is, "where is that plastic going?" 807 01:01:08,050 --> 01:01:10,751 It's flowing to asia. It's flowing to europe. 808 01:01:10,753 --> 01:01:13,454 It's flowing into every new product streams. 809 01:01:13,456 --> 01:01:15,589 This highlights a really fundamental truth 810 01:01:15,591 --> 01:01:18,759 About the plastics crisis and about plastics as a product. 811 01:01:18,761 --> 01:01:22,596 To a far greater extent than in any other product chain, 812 01:01:22,598 --> 01:01:25,866 Plastics are driven not by the demand for them, 813 01:01:25,868 --> 01:01:27,501 But by the supply. 814 01:01:30,673 --> 01:01:32,473 This is the story of plastics. 815 01:01:32,475 --> 01:01:35,509 It is fossil fuels finding a new form 816 01:01:35,511 --> 01:01:38,178 And finding a new place to flow through the economy. 817 01:01:42,184 --> 01:01:44,785 This is a crisis that is accelerating literally 818 01:01:44,787 --> 01:01:47,621 By the day as we speak. 819 01:01:47,623 --> 01:01:49,423 Exxon opens a new plant here. 820 01:01:49,425 --> 01:01:51,391 Chevron builds a new plant there. 821 01:01:51,393 --> 01:01:53,494 Total builds yet another. 822 01:02:00,903 --> 01:02:03,904 We're seeing the same thing happened in the U.S. East Coast, 823 01:02:03,906 --> 01:02:05,873 We're seeing the same thing happen in europe, 824 01:02:05,875 --> 01:02:08,008 In the middle east, in china, 825 01:02:08,010 --> 01:02:11,011 This buildout is going on and it's going on now. 826 01:02:17,219 --> 01:02:19,153 Once these plants are built, 827 01:02:19,155 --> 01:02:22,689 The debt to build them will already have been incurred, 828 01:02:22,691 --> 01:02:26,693 And they will squeeze every last ounce of plastic film 829 01:02:26,695 --> 01:02:29,897 And plastic packaging out of those plants 830 01:02:29,899 --> 01:02:31,999 Until they crumble to dust. 831 01:02:47,383 --> 01:02:49,183 We're back with an alarming new report 832 01:02:49,185 --> 01:02:50,651 That came out this past week 833 01:02:50,653 --> 01:02:52,319 On the state of the world's oceans, 834 01:02:52,321 --> 01:02:55,723 Specifically the finding that they contain far more plastic 835 01:02:55,725 --> 01:02:57,391 Than scientists had first thought. 836 01:02:57,393 --> 01:03:00,695 Carpenter: The surge of attention to plastic pollution 837 01:03:00,697 --> 01:03:02,897 Is pretty striking. 838 01:03:02,899 --> 01:03:04,498 Reporter: Searching for a fish, 839 01:03:04,500 --> 01:03:07,735 But finding an ocean of plastic trash, 840 01:03:07,737 --> 01:03:10,438 Woglom: About 8 million metric tons go into the ocean every year. 841 01:03:10,440 --> 01:03:13,140 That's the equivalent of one city garbage truck 842 01:03:13,142 --> 01:03:15,109 Dumping a load of plastic into the ocean 843 01:03:15,111 --> 01:03:17,478 Every minute of every day. 844 01:03:17,480 --> 01:03:20,281 Narrator: Celebrities urging people to give up using things 845 01:03:20,283 --> 01:03:22,450 Like plastic straws and cups. 846 01:03:22,452 --> 01:03:25,453 By 2050, there will be more plastic waste 847 01:03:25,455 --> 01:03:27,655 In the world's oceans than fish. 848 01:03:27,657 --> 01:03:31,158 Reporter: These pictures after its death show the 80 plastic bags 849 01:03:31,160 --> 01:03:32,226 Found inside the whale. 850 01:03:37,300 --> 01:03:40,768 Reporter: It's getting into the food that we end up eating. 851 01:03:40,770 --> 01:03:43,771 Reporter: The polyester fibers that you take into your lungs, 852 01:03:43,773 --> 01:03:47,675 They're small enough to cross the blood brain barrier. 853 01:03:47,677 --> 01:03:50,745 Reporter: The five gyres, giant swirling bodies of water 854 01:03:50,747 --> 01:03:53,214 Where plastic accumulates. 855 01:03:53,216 --> 01:03:55,015 When I mention plastic to younger people, 856 01:03:55,017 --> 01:03:58,385 They say, "plastic is that giant island 857 01:03:58,387 --> 01:04:01,655 That's the size of antarctica in an ocean, 858 01:04:01,657 --> 01:04:04,125 And that's what plastic did, it wrecked the environment." 859 01:04:04,127 --> 01:04:07,061 But the world is still going toward plastic. 860 01:04:07,063 --> 01:04:09,497 We do have a plastic waste problem. 861 01:04:09,499 --> 01:04:12,132 And at this point in time, I've never seen the industry 862 01:04:12,134 --> 01:04:14,368 More aligned about tackling that problem. 863 01:04:14,370 --> 01:04:15,603 We've been working... 864 01:04:15,605 --> 01:04:17,271 Mafira: They're mostly making these statements 865 01:04:17,273 --> 01:04:19,540 That are quite normative. 866 01:04:19,542 --> 01:04:22,443 "we'll look into this. We're committed." 867 01:04:27,383 --> 01:04:29,917 The covestro industry has products and processes 868 01:04:29,919 --> 01:04:33,587 That can help address these sustainability issues. 869 01:04:33,589 --> 01:04:35,523 Narrator: We believe in sustainable practices 870 01:04:35,525 --> 01:04:38,959 And sustainable business growth. 871 01:04:38,961 --> 01:04:44,064 Mafira: But that hasn't translated into what the step-by-step plan is. 872 01:04:46,869 --> 01:04:49,370 Graham van't hoff, who's the executive vice president 873 01:04:49,372 --> 01:04:52,072 Of shell's chemical division wrote... 874 01:04:56,245 --> 01:04:57,378 And then he adds... 875 01:05:03,653 --> 01:05:07,054 I can't speculate about what the executives 876 01:05:07,056 --> 01:05:08,856 At petrochemical companies actually believe, 877 01:05:08,858 --> 01:05:11,091 But it's certainly true that in their communications 878 01:05:11,093 --> 01:05:15,162 And their actions, most of them indicate that, 879 01:05:15,164 --> 01:05:17,631 While they might generously offer 880 01:05:17,633 --> 01:05:19,834 To help with the cleanup problem, 881 01:05:19,836 --> 01:05:22,169 There's nothing wrong with the product 882 01:05:22,171 --> 01:05:24,939 Or with the companies that are making the product. 883 01:05:24,941 --> 01:05:28,609 The fault lies with the consumers and with countries 884 01:05:28,611 --> 01:05:32,446 That have inadequate waste recycling infrastructure. 885 01:05:32,448 --> 01:05:34,715 I think everyone agrees that plastic waste 886 01:05:34,717 --> 01:05:37,218 Does not belong in the ocean or the environment. 887 01:05:37,220 --> 01:05:39,553 So I'm very happy to announce today 888 01:05:39,555 --> 01:05:41,989 The formation of the "alliance to end plastic waste." 889 01:05:41,991 --> 01:05:46,227 This can bring together companies that make plastic 890 01:05:46,229 --> 01:05:49,430 And those that handle plastic after the consumer use. 891 01:05:49,432 --> 01:05:52,233 We're ready to invest over $1.5 billion 892 01:05:52,235 --> 01:05:53,601 To identify projects 893 01:05:53,603 --> 01:05:56,604 And fund projects to really get at solving solutions. 894 01:05:58,107 --> 01:06:01,609 Carpenter: I think if you look at some of the industry-backed plans, 895 01:06:01,611 --> 01:06:03,744 The alliance to end plastic waste, 896 01:06:03,746 --> 01:06:06,213 They want to put significant investment into recycling 897 01:06:06,215 --> 01:06:08,649 And waste collection infrastructure, 898 01:06:08,651 --> 01:06:11,652 And that's great where it happens. 899 01:06:11,654 --> 01:06:14,054 But that's not going to reach everywhere. 900 01:06:14,056 --> 01:06:16,624 It's definitely not on the same scale 901 01:06:16,626 --> 01:06:19,193 Or even close to the scale of the amount of plastic 902 01:06:19,195 --> 01:06:22,329 That is projected to be produced in the coming decade 903 01:06:22,331 --> 01:06:24,865 Based upon all this new investment in infrastructure. 904 01:06:45,554 --> 01:06:49,223 The metaphor I use in the piece is it's like trying to bail out 905 01:06:49,225 --> 01:06:53,861 A bathtub with a teaspoon while the tap is on full blast. 906 01:06:53,863 --> 01:06:56,697 And certainly we see that this distraction 907 01:06:56,699 --> 01:06:58,699 Has been effective in terms of media coverage. 908 01:06:58,701 --> 01:07:02,803 There is a lot of coverage about cleanup. 909 01:07:02,805 --> 01:07:05,039 Whether it's the big ocean cleanup 910 01:07:05,041 --> 01:07:07,341 That has a lot of big money behind it 911 01:07:07,343 --> 01:07:09,009 Or whether it's smaller efforts, 912 01:07:09,011 --> 01:07:11,412 Whether it's industry investments in cleanup, 913 01:07:11,414 --> 01:07:13,914 That definitely has dominated the narrative. 914 01:07:16,218 --> 01:07:19,620 That famous quote, "the future of plastic is in the trash can." 915 01:07:19,622 --> 01:07:24,825 It's no secret that the industry has for decades understood 916 01:07:24,827 --> 01:07:26,560 That the way to profit more 917 01:07:26,562 --> 01:07:28,729 Is to get people to use more plastic. 918 01:07:30,833 --> 01:07:33,334 Their incentive is to get us to use more, 919 01:07:33,336 --> 01:07:35,502 And if we throw it away, 920 01:07:35,504 --> 01:07:37,838 That creates P.R. Problems for them. 921 01:07:37,840 --> 01:07:39,640 But economically, it's great 922 01:07:39,642 --> 01:07:43,410 If we just keep using single-use products. 923 01:07:48,851 --> 01:07:51,285 So, if we stop to pick up everything on the way out there, 924 01:07:51,287 --> 01:07:53,520 We'd never make it out past the jetty, 925 01:07:53,522 --> 01:07:57,224 So we have to leave some things by the wayside. 926 01:08:00,963 --> 01:08:04,665 I'm captain of the oceanographic research vessel alguita 927 01:08:04,667 --> 01:08:11,872 And founder of alguita marine research and education. 928 01:08:11,874 --> 01:08:15,676 I'm known for working well off shore of the coastal ocean 929 01:08:15,678 --> 01:08:19,380 In what are known as the oceanic gyres. 930 01:08:23,419 --> 01:08:26,653 In 1997, I decided to take a shortcut 931 01:08:26,655 --> 01:08:30,190 And cut across this vast expanse, 932 01:08:30,192 --> 01:08:35,062 Which was basically a thousand miles in diameter. 933 01:08:35,064 --> 01:08:38,465 And I couldn't come on deck without seeing a single piece 934 01:08:38,467 --> 01:08:40,768 Of plastic float by within five minutes. 935 01:08:46,342 --> 01:08:49,176 It's proliferated so fast, within 20 years 936 01:08:49,178 --> 01:08:51,879 From my time of discovering it until today, 937 01:08:51,881 --> 01:08:57,684 I feel I underestimated the actual danger. 938 01:08:57,686 --> 01:08:59,553 And the "aha" moment was the first time 939 01:08:59,555 --> 01:09:02,956 We threw that trawl in the ocean and pulled it in. 940 01:09:02,958 --> 01:09:04,925 It was full of plastic fragments. 941 01:09:04,927 --> 01:09:07,161 That's what blew my mind, when we realized 942 01:09:07,163 --> 01:09:09,630 No matter where you're gonna throw that net and out here, 943 01:09:09,632 --> 01:09:13,267 You're going to find that stuff. 944 01:09:13,269 --> 01:09:15,969 So, we just pulled in the trawl. 945 01:09:15,971 --> 01:09:17,938 This is all plastic that we caught 946 01:09:17,940 --> 01:09:22,509 At the surface of the ocean. 947 01:09:22,511 --> 01:09:24,311 Wow. That's a lot. 948 01:09:24,313 --> 01:09:25,412 You'll see the nurdles, 949 01:09:25,414 --> 01:09:27,781 Which are the preproduction resin pellets 950 01:09:27,783 --> 01:09:30,150 For majority of all of our plastics we've ever owned. 951 01:09:30,152 --> 01:09:32,886 It started out as the nurdles. 952 01:09:32,888 --> 01:09:36,023 Look at that separation between the plastic layer. 953 01:09:36,025 --> 01:09:39,660 Look how many different layers there are of materials there. 954 01:09:39,662 --> 01:09:42,830 See how the plastic separating from that foil. 955 01:09:42,832 --> 01:09:46,033 So, how easy do you think it is for the recyclers to do that? 956 01:09:55,244 --> 01:10:02,616 Oh, we love our sachets. 957 01:10:02,618 --> 01:10:04,818 Just about anywhere you look now, 958 01:10:04,820 --> 01:10:06,987 You can find plastic if you look, 959 01:10:06,989 --> 01:10:09,857 Especially, at the nano scale materials, 960 01:10:09,859 --> 01:10:15,729 Which are now beginning to enter into the web of life itself. 961 01:10:36,652 --> 01:10:41,021 Ballent: When you realize how widespread this issue is 962 01:10:41,023 --> 01:10:44,525 And how small the particles are, you realize that cleanup 963 01:10:44,527 --> 01:10:48,162 Is really just a great way to see how bad the problem is. 964 01:10:48,164 --> 01:10:51,198 We cannot rely on it as a solution. 965 01:11:01,410 --> 01:11:05,712 Grate: There are solutions that have been proven to work. 966 01:11:05,714 --> 01:11:09,216 There are cities working towards zero waste. 967 01:11:29,405 --> 01:11:34,308 My vision for the future is all cities are going zero waste, 968 01:11:34,310 --> 01:11:37,144 And that means that all that we use, 969 01:11:37,146 --> 01:11:41,381 All that they produce, can either be composed or recycled, 970 01:11:41,383 --> 01:11:45,786 And all cities have the capacity to manage these composed 971 01:11:45,788 --> 01:11:48,522 Of all of these recyclables. 972 01:11:48,524 --> 01:11:51,391 Currently, we still have residual waste. 973 01:11:51,393 --> 01:11:53,560 These are products or packaging 974 01:11:53,562 --> 01:11:56,563 That can neither be composed nor recycled. 975 01:11:56,565 --> 01:11:58,298 But the beauty of a zero-waste program 976 01:11:58,300 --> 01:12:01,568 Is that we are not hiding these products. 977 01:12:20,257 --> 01:12:22,691 Man: Right now, we are having a brand audit 978 01:12:22,693 --> 01:12:24,760 In which we are trying to identify 979 01:12:24,762 --> 01:12:29,331 The brands which contribute the most to plastic waste 980 01:12:29,333 --> 01:12:31,700 Which is generated at the household level. 981 01:12:31,702 --> 01:12:34,870 We are trying to generate enough baseline data 982 01:12:34,872 --> 01:12:37,172 To enable the government to take a stand 983 01:12:37,174 --> 01:12:40,342 So that they can follow guidelines for implementing epr 984 01:12:40,344 --> 01:12:44,680 To fix extended producer responsibility. 985 01:12:44,682 --> 01:12:47,316 When we say "extended producer responsibility," 986 01:12:47,318 --> 01:12:49,485 He try to transfer the responsibility 987 01:12:49,487 --> 01:12:54,623 Of handling discards of branded products back to the producer. 988 01:12:54,625 --> 01:12:56,992 For example, if you're buying a packet of chips, 989 01:12:56,994 --> 01:12:59,595 You had essentially buying the chips and not packaging 990 01:12:59,597 --> 01:13:02,130 Which comes along with it. 991 01:13:02,132 --> 01:13:05,367 So, the manufacturer should take the responsibility 992 01:13:05,369 --> 01:13:08,303 For either collecting them back 993 01:13:08,305 --> 01:13:12,975 Or should support the government in treating them. 994 01:13:12,977 --> 01:13:15,978 So, this is what we dream by implementing 995 01:13:15,980 --> 01:13:18,647 Extended producer responsibility. 996 01:13:18,649 --> 01:13:21,250 From what we see right here, 997 01:13:21,252 --> 01:13:24,086 There are five main contributors to the majority 998 01:13:24,088 --> 01:13:26,588 Of the plastic waste generated. 999 01:13:26,590 --> 01:13:32,427 Unilever, itc, nestlé, milman, and pepsico. 1000 01:13:32,429 --> 01:13:33,962 And we are getting similar feedback 1001 01:13:33,964 --> 01:13:37,432 From different brands as their collected all over the country 1002 01:13:37,434 --> 01:13:41,203 Where the same names are coming up a the top brands. 1003 01:13:44,475 --> 01:13:47,442 Man: We know who they are. 1004 01:13:47,444 --> 01:13:49,311 He's been trying to work with them. 1005 01:13:49,313 --> 01:13:55,584 They have to step up, and they had to own the problem. 1006 01:13:55,586 --> 01:13:58,720 Hernandez: It cannot be forever supporting the bottom line 1007 01:13:58,722 --> 01:14:01,123 Of this companies that has got to stop now. 1008 01:14:01,125 --> 01:14:04,626 They need to be given the bill. 1009 01:14:04,628 --> 01:14:07,496 We've got to pass legislation, 1010 01:14:07,498 --> 01:14:11,199 And we've got to create public opinion to reduce waste. 1011 01:14:12,295 --> 01:14:17,564 To continue creating products on the basis of petrochemicals 1012 01:14:17,566 --> 01:14:20,467 Is not embracing the full potential 1013 01:14:20,469 --> 01:14:23,237 Of the opportunities that we see elsewhere. 1014 01:14:23,239 --> 01:14:26,707 We're almost there that you can create packaging 1015 01:14:26,709 --> 01:14:28,742 That has nothing to do with plastics. 1016 01:14:28,744 --> 01:14:30,811 We're almost there. 1017 01:14:35,985 --> 01:14:37,518 If you can use less material, 1018 01:14:37,520 --> 01:14:40,021 For sure, that's always number one. 1019 01:14:40,023 --> 01:14:42,423 But for everything else, biodegradable 1020 01:14:42,425 --> 01:14:46,961 And bio-based plastic can be a good solution in the future. 1021 01:14:59,175 --> 01:15:01,442 People always say, like, "oh, molly, I thought of you. 1022 01:15:01,444 --> 01:15:03,611 I was at cvs, and I bought 1023 01:15:03,613 --> 01:15:05,346 A biodegradable shampoo bottle," and I'm like, 1024 01:15:05,348 --> 01:15:09,116 "I know exactly what you bought. It's not biodegradable." 1025 01:15:09,118 --> 01:15:12,153 Just 'cause something's made from corn or plants 1026 01:15:12,155 --> 01:15:14,021 Does not mean it's biodegradable. 1027 01:15:14,023 --> 01:15:15,589 So, we see a lot of things 1028 01:15:15,591 --> 01:15:18,859 Like Bio-P.E.T. On the market, for instance. 1029 01:15:18,861 --> 01:15:22,496 And Bio-P.E.T. Is the same carbon chain 1030 01:15:22,498 --> 01:15:24,799 That's in conventional P.E.T., 1031 01:15:24,801 --> 01:15:27,234 And you're not using ancient fossil carbon 1032 01:15:27,236 --> 01:15:29,036 To make that material, 1033 01:15:29,038 --> 01:15:30,771 But it's the exact same carbon chain. 1034 01:15:30,773 --> 01:15:32,873 It's not gonna be biodegradable. 1035 01:15:32,875 --> 01:15:35,076 So, those two things are completely unrelated, 1036 01:15:35,078 --> 01:15:37,311 Biodegradable and bio-based. 1037 01:15:37,313 --> 01:15:42,249 But we really need to think about both 1038 01:15:42,251 --> 01:15:46,520 What we're going up against, the incumbent persistence, 1039 01:15:46,522 --> 01:15:48,322 Petrochemical-based plastics. 1040 01:15:48,324 --> 01:15:51,892 This is a massive infrastructure challenge. 1041 01:16:09,545 --> 01:16:12,413 Morawski: If we really want to completely transform 1042 01:16:12,415 --> 01:16:15,683 This industry, we have to create that demand 1043 01:16:15,685 --> 01:16:17,685 And say to the producers, 1044 01:16:17,687 --> 01:16:22,256 "you must buy this much recycled resin instead of virgin, 1045 01:16:22,258 --> 01:16:23,991 Then you're going to see demand. 1046 01:16:23,993 --> 01:16:26,794 Then you're going to see investment in recycling. 1047 01:16:26,796 --> 01:16:32,066 Now, that being said, it's not all about recycling. 1048 01:16:32,068 --> 01:16:36,570 I don't think we recycle our way out of this problem. 1049 01:16:36,572 --> 01:16:41,642 We've got to reduce and reuse our way out of this, 1050 01:16:41,644 --> 01:16:43,377 And that's definitely not what 1051 01:16:43,379 --> 01:16:49,016 Dow, and dupont, and 3m, and target, 1052 01:16:49,018 --> 01:16:54,221 And procter & gamble, and starbucks are thinking. 1053 01:16:59,262 --> 01:17:00,728 Simon: The question is, are we going to see 1054 01:17:00,730 --> 01:17:03,564 A world of multinationals in 20 or 30 years' time, 1055 01:17:03,566 --> 01:17:05,366 Or we want to see a world where, actually, 1056 01:17:05,368 --> 01:17:08,903 You have a lot more alternative delivery systems, 1057 01:17:08,905 --> 01:17:11,839 Business models that go a lot more small scale, 1058 01:17:11,841 --> 01:17:14,708 And actually building on the communities. 1059 01:17:14,710 --> 01:17:16,343 Priestland: The world that I hope to see 1060 01:17:16,345 --> 01:17:21,015 Is one where your beauty-care products or your drinks 1061 01:17:21,017 --> 01:17:22,716 Or whatever else that you're buying 1062 01:17:22,718 --> 01:17:25,119 Is coming in reusable packaging, 1063 01:17:25,121 --> 01:17:28,222 And we have more localized systems 1064 01:17:28,224 --> 01:17:31,692 So that we break free from these huge, multinational companies 1065 01:17:31,694 --> 01:17:33,427 Who have massive supply chains 1066 01:17:33,429 --> 01:17:38,632 That force them to rely on plastic packaging. 1067 01:17:38,634 --> 01:17:42,937 At least we can turn off the tap, right? 1068 01:17:42,939 --> 01:17:45,406 That's the least that we can do -- 1069 01:17:45,408 --> 01:17:52,646 The very least that we can do. 1070 01:17:52,648 --> 01:17:57,218 People are thinking that prevention is radical, 1071 01:17:57,220 --> 01:18:00,421 Something that comes after recycling. 1072 01:18:00,423 --> 01:18:02,990 It's not it's supposed to be the essential thing 1073 01:18:02,992 --> 01:18:04,859 To do first and foremost. 1074 01:18:04,861 --> 01:18:07,194 There has to be a policy. 1075 01:18:07,196 --> 01:18:11,065 That's the only way that you can get massive-scale conversions 1076 01:18:11,067 --> 01:18:12,766 To single-use-plastic free. 1077 01:18:19,208 --> 01:18:23,677 Before we passed the plastic-bag reduction law in california, 1078 01:18:23,679 --> 01:18:26,113 This would have been full of plastic bags, too. 1079 01:18:26,115 --> 01:18:29,917 So, it's pretty awesome that there aren't very many 1080 01:18:29,919 --> 01:18:32,119 'cause those plastic bags are a nightmare. 1081 01:18:32,121 --> 01:18:33,854 They gummed up everything. 1082 01:18:33,856 --> 01:18:36,690 And it's a success story that gives us some ideas 1083 01:18:36,692 --> 01:18:41,795 About how we might deal with some of these other materials. 1084 01:18:41,797 --> 01:18:43,797 Timmermans: What we did is we looked at 1085 01:18:43,799 --> 01:18:45,933 Which single-use-plastics items 1086 01:18:45,935 --> 01:18:48,702 Could be easily replaced like straws, 1087 01:18:48,704 --> 01:18:53,440 Q-tips, plastic cutlery, plastic plates, et cetera, 1088 01:18:53,442 --> 01:18:56,377 So we could ban those products. 1089 01:18:56,379 --> 01:19:00,381 And then you have products that are not as easily replaceable. 1090 01:19:00,383 --> 01:19:02,082 There, you need to help industry 1091 01:19:02,084 --> 01:19:04,218 To try and develop other products 1092 01:19:04,220 --> 01:19:05,920 That could replace these products. 1093 01:19:05,922 --> 01:19:09,356 And, also, what has been very successful are programs 1094 01:19:09,358 --> 01:19:11,959 To recollect plastic bottles. 1095 01:19:11,961 --> 01:19:15,829 You get collection of over 90%. 1096 01:19:15,831 --> 01:19:21,735 All these things combined should be one strategy. 1097 01:19:21,737 --> 01:19:26,574 This is not a europe-centric or western-centric issue. 1098 01:19:30,913 --> 01:19:33,080 In some african countries, 1099 01:19:33,082 --> 01:19:35,416 Governments are willing to be more radical than europe 1100 01:19:35,418 --> 01:19:37,952 On single-use plastics. 1101 01:19:37,954 --> 01:19:40,854 Woman: Rwanda is a role model. 1102 01:19:40,856 --> 01:19:43,457 Since the ban was introduced 10 years ago, 1103 01:19:43,459 --> 01:19:48,529 Countries around the world have since also banned plastic bags. 1104 01:19:48,531 --> 01:19:53,901 Morawski: The public is happy to hear about these bans taking place. 1105 01:19:53,903 --> 01:19:56,303 And companies are really afraid. 1106 01:19:56,305 --> 01:19:59,073 They're suddenly realizing this is really serious. 1107 01:20:07,516 --> 01:20:09,483 Without the legislation, we have nothing. 1108 01:20:09,485 --> 01:20:11,018 Because then you're asking corporations 1109 01:20:11,020 --> 01:20:12,786 To voluntarily do the right thing. 1110 01:20:12,788 --> 01:20:14,255 They're not going to do that. 1111 01:20:14,257 --> 01:20:16,957 But if everybody is forced to do it, they all have to pay, 1112 01:20:16,959 --> 01:20:18,726 They're going to come together, 1113 01:20:18,728 --> 01:20:21,595 And those costs that were externalized in the past 1114 01:20:21,597 --> 01:20:24,331 And basically borne by poor communities 1115 01:20:24,333 --> 01:20:27,401 Suffering with all this marine litter or municipalities 1116 01:20:27,403 --> 01:20:31,005 Having to deal with expensive recycling and disposal programs 1117 01:20:31,007 --> 01:20:34,775 Or large incinerators that they have to keep feeding, 1118 01:20:34,777 --> 01:20:36,644 Those are externalized costs 1119 01:20:36,646 --> 01:20:39,446 That companies are profiting from. 1120 01:20:39,448 --> 01:20:41,215 Now we're going to give them back those costs and say, 1121 01:20:41,217 --> 01:20:42,950 "you know what? It's your problem now. 1122 01:20:42,952 --> 01:20:44,018 You deal with it. 1123 01:20:44,020 --> 01:20:45,119 Are you still going to do business 1124 01:20:45,121 --> 01:20:46,820 The same way you do business now, 1125 01:20:46,822 --> 01:20:48,756 Or are you going to redesign your product 1126 01:20:48,758 --> 01:20:50,257 So you're going to reduce those costs 1127 01:20:50,259 --> 01:20:54,928 And it's actually going to be more environmentally friendly?" 1128 01:20:54,930 --> 01:20:57,498 I believe we're at a tipping point right now. 1129 01:20:57,500 --> 01:20:59,900 I've seen more policy change globally 1130 01:20:59,902 --> 01:21:01,502 In the last 8 months 1131 01:21:01,504 --> 01:21:04,004 Than I've seen in 20 years of my career 1132 01:21:04,006 --> 01:21:06,607 Because not only are governments getting pissed off, 1133 01:21:06,609 --> 01:21:08,776 But companies are recognizing 1134 01:21:08,778 --> 01:21:10,511 They can't get away with it anymore. 1135 01:22:26,522 --> 01:22:28,655 Carpenter: So many parts of our economy, 1136 01:22:28,657 --> 01:22:30,691 So many places around the world are dependent 1137 01:22:30,693 --> 01:22:34,027 On this relatively small group of corporations 1138 01:22:34,029 --> 01:22:36,597 Who are making a tremendous amount of money 1139 01:22:36,599 --> 01:22:40,267 Poisoning the rest of us. 1140 01:22:40,269 --> 01:22:43,570 And, so, figuring out how to break out of that cycle. 1141 01:22:43,572 --> 01:22:48,442 That's the project of our lifetime. 1142 01:22:48,444 --> 01:22:50,811 Bourque: Plastics are treated as a product 1143 01:22:50,813 --> 01:22:53,347 That miraculously appears from nowhere, 1144 01:22:53,349 --> 01:22:57,151 And it goes to nowhere. 1145 01:22:57,153 --> 01:23:00,854 That invisibility, that magic nature of plastics 1146 01:23:00,856 --> 01:23:04,758 Is something that the oil and gas industry has perpetuated 1147 01:23:04,760 --> 01:23:07,728 And promoted very effectively for decades. 1148 01:23:07,730 --> 01:23:12,900 But what was once invisible is becoming visible. 1149 01:23:12,902 --> 01:23:15,636 The plastic crisis doesn't start 1150 01:23:15,638 --> 01:23:17,738 When the plastics enter the ocean. 1151 01:23:17,740 --> 01:23:21,275 It starts when the oil and the gas leave the wellhead 1152 01:23:21,277 --> 01:23:25,145 And it keeps on being a problem at every step along the way. 1153 01:23:28,617 --> 01:23:29,917 So, if you want to stop plastics, 1154 01:23:29,919 --> 01:23:33,253 If you want to truly confront the plastics crisis, 1155 01:23:33,255 --> 01:23:36,356 Fight to end fossil-fuel subsidies. 1156 01:23:36,358 --> 01:23:39,159 Make companies accountable for the lifecycle impacts 1157 01:23:39,161 --> 01:23:41,028 Of their products. 1158 01:23:41,030 --> 01:23:44,431 The moment that exxon, the moment that shell, 1159 01:23:44,433 --> 01:23:46,600 The moment that chevron and dow and dupont 1160 01:23:46,602 --> 01:23:48,802 Own the impacts of these products, 1161 01:23:48,804 --> 01:23:53,540 The plastics crisis will be over and not before then. 1162 01:23:53,542 --> 01:23:56,076 Now, it may be a kind of a token idea, 1163 01:23:56,078 --> 01:23:58,846 But I think that circular economy is possible. 1164 01:23:58,848 --> 01:24:00,881 Zero waste is possible. 1165 01:24:17,666 --> 01:24:19,700 Mafira: It's not reasonable at all 1166 01:24:19,702 --> 01:24:24,771 That we continue to live like this and expect to survive. 1167 01:24:24,773 --> 01:24:27,741 We're ruining the planet that gives us life, 1168 01:24:27,743 --> 01:24:30,577 And we're ruining the oceans that give us fish. 1169 01:24:30,579 --> 01:24:33,947 We're ruining the rivers that give us clean water. 1170 01:24:38,290 --> 01:24:46,093 I don't think they can keep on tricking people forever. 96428

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