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We are the first all-girl band
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that wrote their own material
and played
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their own instruments to be
really successful.
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Alright, this is for you
for being so nice.
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♪ I gave up looking
for a reason ♪
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♪ To live with things
just the way they were ♪
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♪ I came around, used to be ♪
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♪ Easy to get to so they ♪
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♪ Got to me
in just about every way ♪
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♪ Caught with no cards up
your sleeve ♪
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♪ Not much to choose from ♪
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♪ Grew up all along ♪
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♪ Just thinking that you
couldn't lose ♪
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♪ I came around, used to be ♪
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♪ Easy to get to so they ♪
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♪ Got to me
in just about every way ♪
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♪ Can't stop the world ♪
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♪ Can't stop the world,
why let it stop you? ♪
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People automatically assumed
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that we were probably put
together by some guy,
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but we did it all ourselves.
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Let's go!
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We got on stage,
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and it happened to be a group
of women really kicking ass.
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It was great.
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One in a million bands
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gets to where we got.
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America knew
who The Go-Go's were.
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These are The Go-Go's.
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Charlotte Caffey, Gina Schock,
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Jane Wiedlin, Kathy Valentine
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and Belinda Carlisle.
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The greatest all-girl group
of all time, The Go-Go's.
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The Go-Go's!
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- The Go-Go's!
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We were really making
big strides,
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loving what we were doing
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and being in that moment of,
like, wow!
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♪ Can't stop the world... ♪
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I couldn't walk down
the street at that time.
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That's how famous
The Go-Go's were.
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In the course of a year,
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we had gone from playing dive
bars to Madison Square Garden.
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♪ Can't stop the world ♪
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I was on top of the world,
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I felt like we had made it.
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There never would have
been The Go-Go's
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without the punk rock scene
in Los Angeles.
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Well, you got it!
From Hollywood, The Go-Go's!
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Happy Saint Patrick's Day.
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There's a problem
with the monitor here,
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and I'm getting shocked.
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Sorry.
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At the time,
there were 50 kids tops
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in the L.A. punk scene.
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It was D.I.Y.
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and if you were terrible
you were cooler,
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and anybody could
do whatever they wanted.
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It was total freedom.
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♪ Don't assume that we never
think ♪
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♪ You think you know
but you haven't a clue ♪
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-♪ 'Cause we're ♪
-♪ We're ♪
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-♪ Here...
-♪ Here ♪
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-♪ Now...
-♪ Now ♪
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♪ We don't need you around ♪
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It was about
feeling emotion, anger, rage,
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and you got to express it.
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And the rawer the better.
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♪ Don't make the mistake
of criticizing ♪
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♪ Don't even bother
patronizing ♪
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I was such a punk,
it was like my identity.
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Being in The Go-Go's meant being
more involved in the scene
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with all your friends,
just a great sense of belonging.
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♪ ...around ♪
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♪ And we're... ♪
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I was a little bit
of an outsider
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because I wasn't overtly
punk rock.
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You wouldn't think so
looking at me,
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I look really straight, but I
have a very twisted mind.
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We hated society
and our parents,
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but we supported each other.
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Everyone was welcome,
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outcasts, geeks, gays,
straights,
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people of color, women.
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It was inclusive.
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-♪ 'Cause we're ♪
-♪ We're ♪
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-♪ Here ♪
-♪ Here ♪
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-♪ Now ♪
-♪ Now ♪
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And that was a great place
for me to be,
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because I always
felt like I didn't fit in.
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I kind of have this image
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of being this really happy
person, and I can be.
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But I have this thing in me
that's just always there,
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like, ugh, urgh.
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I have a lifelong history
of depression.
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When I was 15,
I tried to kill myself.
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Right around that same time
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I was looking at
Women's Wear Daily
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and they had all these photos
of the London punk scene.
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Oh, my God,
it really spoke to me.
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I was like, "Ah, I want this!"
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So I just started making
my own punk clothes,
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and one weekend I went to
this store on Sunset Strip
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that was called
Granny Takes a Trip,
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and while I was in there
I met Pleasant Gehman.
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This little girl came in,
she had huge eyes.
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She looked like an anime
action figure.
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She had these shirts
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that had two zippers sewn in
over the boobs,
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and so, when you unzipped
them, you know,
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your bra or your bare boobs
would come out.
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She told me that there
was a scene in Hollywood,
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a punk scene,
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and she gave me a flyer
for this club called The Masque.
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In the punk scene, there was
just so much energy and anger.
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And having suppressed bad
feelings my whole life,
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the suicide attempt was
obviously it trying to come out,
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and then,
becoming a punk rocker,
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I felt was a really positive way
for it to come out.
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People used to cross the street
when they saw me.
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I felt powerful
for the first time.
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I just felt like I had
found my home.
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The punk scene gave me
an outlet to act out
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and be the badass
that I thought I was.
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I'm the oldest of seven kids.
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My father left when I was five.
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My stepfather was hardcore,
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very much an old-school
disciplinarian.
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We had no money.
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I remember growing up
and being in school
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and always feeling like I was
pretending to be something
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that I probably wasn't...
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I was a real good student,
I was a cheerleader.
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Does anybody have a cigarette?
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...But then, I discovered
the punk scene,
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and that opened up
a whole new world for me.
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Everybody in the L.A.
punk rock scene,
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it was like there was invisible
smoke signals
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getting sent out of, like,
you know,
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"You need to go to this club
on that night."
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And the Sex Pistols were playing
at Winterland in San Francisco
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and pretty much
everybody in L.A. drove up.
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It was really like a religious
pilgrimage.
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They were just the kings of the
original, original punk scene.
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♪ Problem, problem, problem,
problem... ♪
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The Sex Pistols gave
this, like, slacker performance
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that wasn't compelling at all.
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Johnny Rotten at the end
of the show
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said the famous quote of his.
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Ever get the feeling
you've been cheated?
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Good night!
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You know, it was kind of like,
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"Oh, man,
you guys were our heroes"
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and they kind of suck.
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And it also felt like the first
wave of punk was sort of dying.
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It was time for some new people
to start doing something.
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I think that was the weekend
I actually got to know Margot,
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and then we started talking
about forming a band,
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a girl band, actually.
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Everybody was in a band.
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I mean, it was like the cool
thing to be in a band
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and we were basically
the only people left
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that weren't in a band,
so we decided to do it too.
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I met Elissa.
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She was one of my high school
friend's cousins.
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Margot then met Belinda.
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The punk scene was so small,
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so we all knew each other
vaguely.
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Thinking about bands like
The Shirelles
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and The Shangri-Las,
it was exciting to think
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we could do the new version
of that.
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But this time, we were going
to play instruments.
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With one little problem?
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That we didn't know how
to play instruments.
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Well, I wanted to play bass
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and I knew I would have
to learn by doing.
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I didn't have drums,
I had to go out and find drums.
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You know, I had a couple
of weeks of folk guitar lessons
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when I was 12,
I'll just play guitar.
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I certainly thought
I could sing.
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I thought I sounded like
Julie Andrews. But...
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♪ We can do what we want
we can say... ♪
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We didn't know what
we were doing.
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In the punk scene it was like,
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"Great, you don't know
what you're doing?
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Just fucking do it."
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We'd sort of been, like,
going over different names,
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nothing really seemed right.
Whatever--
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Was it The Misfits
was going to be,
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because that's how we sort of
felt at the time.
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At that time, The Kinks came out
with Misfits the album,
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we thought, no, everyone will
think, you know,
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we stole it from them.
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So, The Go-Go's seemed
to fit us.
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I remember doing our first show.
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It was at the Masque.
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Everyone was excited
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when The Go-Go's played
at the Masque.
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Their set was three songs long
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and two of them
were the same song.
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We only knew those songs,
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so it wasn't a matter
of having a set list.
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We didn't need one.
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There's one song about
Robert Hilburn
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who was a huge music critic
at the L.A. Times.
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People were either laughing
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or completely mortified
in horror.
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It was a big, fat mess.
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I wasn't really intimidated
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about being as terrible
as we were in the beginning.
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That was the whole point,
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you can sound horrible
and still make music.
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I think that deep down inside
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we knew that we had something
really special,
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but we needed someone
that actually knew how to do it.
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Let's try plugging the amps
into the wall first,
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like, you know what I mean?
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When I was very, very young,
like, first and second grade,
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I had an Elvis Presley record
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and Johann Strauss
"Blue Danube Waltz".
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I would listen to both of them,
like put one on, dance around,
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put the other one on,
waltz around, yeah.
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I started playing piano
when I was four years old.
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At a very young age,
I was moved by music.
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I had an ear for music.
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I went to Immaculate Heart
College, taking classical piano.
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I loved it, but it was kind
of snotty attitude,
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like, some of these students
were just like, "Who are you?"
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I started going to some of
the punk rock shows.
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The punk bands
just busted me open,
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knowing that all
this music theory,
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rules had to be
thrown out the window.
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♪ Don't talk to me ♪
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When I graduated college,
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my best friend Joe Ramirez
and I started a band.
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We named it The Eyes.
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It was one of the most
freeing things
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just to turn up our amps to ten,
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bash through
and just anything went.
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♪ Don't talk to me,
don't look at me ♪
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♪ Don't talk to me, oh yeah ♪
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"Don't talk to me, don't look at
me, don't talk to me..."
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That is like a feminist anthem
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for women of my generation.
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Margot and I went
to an Eyes show,
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where we thought,
"Oh, Charlotte."
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♪ Yeah ♪
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We thought she was perfect.
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I'm backstage,
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and I see these two sets of legs
walking up.
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One has spikey heels,
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ripped fishnets, a trash bag.
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That was Belinda.
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She said, "Hi, Charlotte.
"You know,
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we're starting this all-girl
band, do you wanna join?"
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And what am I gonna say, no?
259
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I was totally intimidated
by them
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because Jane and Belinda
and Margot,
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they're all like punks
and they're asking me,
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like the dork of all time,
to, like, join their band.
263
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So, I felt kind of special,
I guess.
264
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When they asked,
"Hey, do you play lead guitar?"
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I lied.
266
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I figured I played bass
so, you know,
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"Yeah, it's a couple more
strings, it'll be okay."
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We started rehearsing,
269
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but, you know, we were pretty
crappy in the beginning.
270
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We really didn't sound
that great.
271
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It was pretty screechy.
272
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I remember going into The Masque
one Saturday afternoon,
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hearing some music
and thinking,
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"Oh, who's rehearsing
down here today?"
275
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And then, opening a door
and seeing Belinda on stage
276
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holding a mic kind of awkwardly.
277
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I just thought,
"Oh, God, that's so great,
278
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women pulling together
to achieve something,"
279
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and I wanted to support
that cause and be part of it.
280
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I love communities of women.
281
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This band caught my interest
for that reason.
282
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This song's called
"Fashion Seekers."
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♪ Bland ideas
in a borrowed head ♪
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We saw no reason why
we couldn't be
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just as good as the boys or men.
286
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♪ They'll suck the shirt
right off of your back ♪
287
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We weren't going to be anything
but a great band.
288
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They were really
on the fast track
289
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and they wanted to get going.
290
00:16:04,255 --> 00:16:07,756
And so, they weren't going to
let anything stand in their way.
291
00:16:10,339 --> 00:16:12,881
Elissa was very, very eccentric.
292
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I don't know if she was shy
or an introvert,
293
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but she was never
really part of the gang.
294
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She always held herself apart.
295
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I was coming from
two different worlds.
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I had to answer to my employer
297
00:16:27,839 --> 00:16:30,756
and I had to answer to the band.
298
00:16:30,839 --> 00:16:34,047
And they wanted me to quit
my job, the girls,
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and be more dedicated.
300
00:16:36,589 --> 00:16:41,172
I stuck my toe in the water,
but I never dove in all the way.
301
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We definitely needed
to bring somebody in
302
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that wanted to be there.
303
00:16:46,130 --> 00:16:48,756
I happened to meet the girls
at a party one night,
304
00:16:48,839 --> 00:16:51,422
and um... that's how it started,
I invited 'em over for--
305
00:16:51,506 --> 00:16:54,214
You know, they said, "Oh, we're
looking for a drummer."
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"Oh, we're looking
for a drummer."
307
00:16:56,339 --> 00:16:59,005
And I said, "Great.
I'll try out for the band."
308
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♪ One, two, three, four ♪
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The amps are set up, they bring
their guitars, plug in,
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we play like three songs,
and it was like, done deal.
311
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♪ I buy you cologne ♪
312
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Holy shit!
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I don't even know how
to describe the difference.
314
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It was really, like, ta-da!
315
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♪ I need promises... ♪
316
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The next thing I know
they found this other drummer.
317
00:17:25,547 --> 00:17:28,464
I was very upset and hurt.
318
00:17:28,547 --> 00:17:32,214
When you kick people out
of bands, it's fucking tough.
319
00:17:32,297 --> 00:17:35,089
But at the time, these things
just seemed necessary
320
00:17:35,172 --> 00:17:37,297
and they seemed
for the good of the band.
321
00:17:37,381 --> 00:17:40,714
When she was 13
she would come home from school,
322
00:17:40,798 --> 00:17:42,130
go up into the front bedroom,
323
00:17:42,214 --> 00:17:45,881
put the earphones on
and bang on the drums.
324
00:17:45,964 --> 00:17:49,172
A lot of girls weren't
playing drums back then and so,
325
00:17:49,255 --> 00:17:51,255
I got in a band
right away.
326
00:17:51,339 --> 00:17:54,339
We were Baltimore's first
new wave punk band.
327
00:17:54,422 --> 00:17:55,631
We had a lot of fun,
328
00:17:55,714 --> 00:17:58,589
but at that point I was like,
"I want to play in arenas,
329
00:17:58,673 --> 00:18:01,464
I don't want to stay playing
in clubs my whole life."
330
00:18:03,255 --> 00:18:05,339
When I left Baltimore
I told everybody,
331
00:18:05,422 --> 00:18:07,964
"The next time you see me,
I'm gonna be a rock star."
332
00:18:08,047 --> 00:18:11,214
I drove across country
with a dream and a camera.
333
00:18:11,297 --> 00:18:13,464
I was, like,
always taking pictures.
334
00:18:16,964 --> 00:18:19,631
I had $2000,
and two grams of coke.
335
00:18:22,130 --> 00:18:25,214
I remember the first
time I met Gina,
336
00:18:25,297 --> 00:18:28,547
she had this frizzy blonde hair
and she was wearing overalls.
337
00:18:28,631 --> 00:18:31,297
She looked crazy, and I was
like, "I'm going to fix you."
338
00:18:31,381 --> 00:18:34,339
She needed a little bit of,
you know, punking up.
339
00:18:35,631 --> 00:18:39,547
So, we cut her hair,
dyed it black and she was ready.
340
00:18:41,381 --> 00:18:44,172
Then, I was into taking
just Polaroids.
341
00:18:46,214 --> 00:18:49,214
The punk scene allowed you
to be whoever you wanted to be,
342
00:18:49,297 --> 00:18:51,881
play the way you wanted to play
and you fit in.
343
00:18:52,005 --> 00:18:53,255
You were accepted.
344
00:18:55,506 --> 00:18:58,923
Being in that setting
made me feel safe.
345
00:19:00,839 --> 00:19:02,923
And it just allowed us
a lot more freedom
346
00:19:03,005 --> 00:19:06,381
to do what we wanted to do.
347
00:19:06,464 --> 00:19:11,255
It's like a dream,
only you're really living it.
348
00:19:13,798 --> 00:19:17,339
Jane was just so cute and sweet
and bubbly
349
00:19:17,422 --> 00:19:19,130
and her little voice.
350
00:19:19,214 --> 00:19:22,172
We both had crushes on each
other, I guess you could say,
351
00:19:22,255 --> 00:19:24,506
but we were girlfriends
for a while.
352
00:19:25,673 --> 00:19:27,464
She was the boss
in the relationship,
353
00:19:27,547 --> 00:19:31,339
I was the new kid in town
and it made me feel comfortable.
354
00:19:33,506 --> 00:19:35,547
Jane broke up with me.
355
00:19:41,089 --> 00:19:44,130
It wasn't like either one of us
were heartbroken or anything.
356
00:19:44,214 --> 00:19:47,506
You think something like that's
going to fuck with the band?
357
00:19:47,589 --> 00:19:48,589
No way.
358
00:19:48,673 --> 00:19:51,964
♪ One, two, G-O, G-O... ♪
359
00:19:52,047 --> 00:19:54,005
What Gina brought,
360
00:19:54,089 --> 00:19:55,881
besides being a really
amazing drummer,
361
00:19:55,964 --> 00:19:57,756
is that she made us work hard.
362
00:19:57,839 --> 00:20:01,422
She said, "You guys have
to rehearse every single night."
363
00:20:01,506 --> 00:20:03,923
And we're just like,
"What are you talking about?"
364
00:20:04,005 --> 00:20:06,506
Hey, it doesn't hurt
to rehearse,
365
00:20:06,589 --> 00:20:08,464
it only makes you tighter.
366
00:20:08,547 --> 00:20:11,756
I mean, I was determined
to whip them into shape.
367
00:20:14,214 --> 00:20:17,255
Because I felt there was
something magical there,
368
00:20:17,339 --> 00:20:19,172
you just needed to push it more.
369
00:20:19,255 --> 00:20:21,339
You needed to get the girls
to be more focused
370
00:20:21,422 --> 00:20:23,756
and more serious
about what they're doing.
371
00:20:23,839 --> 00:20:25,214
She was right.
372
00:20:25,297 --> 00:20:29,589
We improved and it pushed us
to another level.
373
00:20:29,673 --> 00:20:32,130
And I was on fire!
374
00:20:35,089 --> 00:20:39,255
I was sitting at home,
it was about midnight,
375
00:20:39,339 --> 00:20:41,339
I was watching
The Twilight Zone.
376
00:20:41,422 --> 00:20:43,506
You're flying to a new planet,
377
00:20:43,589 --> 00:20:47,255
a planet of light,
of darkness and the in-between.
378
00:20:48,673 --> 00:20:50,381
I wanted to write a song
379
00:20:50,464 --> 00:20:53,172
and I was listening to the music
all day long.
380
00:20:53,255 --> 00:20:55,422
I really wanted to write
something with a beat.
381
00:20:55,506 --> 00:20:57,714
I was hearing something
in my mind.
382
00:20:58,839 --> 00:21:02,130
I was just sitting there
minding my own business
383
00:21:02,214 --> 00:21:04,047
and all of a sudden
this whole melody,
384
00:21:04,130 --> 00:21:08,547
this whole idea came to my mind
and I was like, "Oh, shit."
385
00:21:09,464 --> 00:21:11,381
I ran and got my little
cassette player.
386
00:21:13,964 --> 00:21:15,047
And I wrote the song,
387
00:21:15,130 --> 00:21:18,464
it was like five minutes,
it just all came out.
388
00:21:18,547 --> 00:21:21,130
The zone of writing,
I don't know what happens,
389
00:21:21,214 --> 00:21:22,881
but I can get to that place
and boom,
390
00:21:22,964 --> 00:21:25,547
just these ideas just start
flowing and it's like,
391
00:21:25,631 --> 00:21:28,547
it's pretty... pretty phenomenal
when it happens.
392
00:21:31,255 --> 00:21:35,214
Back then, I didn't have
a sense of myself.
393
00:21:36,172 --> 00:21:38,047
Songwriting was
so important to me,
394
00:21:38,130 --> 00:21:41,255
it was my identity,
my safety zone.
395
00:21:43,589 --> 00:21:46,047
And so, with "We Got The Beat"
I was terrified.
396
00:21:46,130 --> 00:21:47,214
I was thinking, "Man,
397
00:21:47,297 --> 00:21:49,756
these girls are going to throw
me out of this band"
398
00:21:49,839 --> 00:21:51,881
because it was a pop song.
399
00:21:52,923 --> 00:21:55,631
♪ See the people
walking down the street ♪
400
00:21:55,714 --> 00:21:58,005
I don't remember her
being nervous,
401
00:21:58,089 --> 00:22:00,422
I just remember thinking
it was an amazing song.
402
00:22:00,506 --> 00:22:03,297
I mean, it's just so obvious.
403
00:22:03,381 --> 00:22:05,130
We all loved it right away.
404
00:22:05,214 --> 00:22:07,923
♪ They got the beat,
they got the beat ♪
405
00:22:08,005 --> 00:22:10,506
♪ They got the beat ♪
406
00:22:11,881 --> 00:22:14,547
When she started playing
that eighth-note riff,
407
00:22:14,631 --> 00:22:18,464
the pattern that I play on the
drums just poured out of me.
408
00:22:18,547 --> 00:22:21,923
It was "do-do da-da
do-do da-da."
409
00:22:22,881 --> 00:22:24,464
I felt like we had arrived.
410
00:22:24,547 --> 00:22:28,464
It was definitely another step
up that ladder.
411
00:22:28,547 --> 00:22:30,923
Fortunately, they just loved it.
412
00:22:37,714 --> 00:22:40,881
And I believe that changed
the trajectory of the band.
413
00:22:50,714 --> 00:22:53,464
♪ Go-Go music really
makes us dance ♪
414
00:22:53,547 --> 00:22:55,631
We were rough sounding
when we played live,
415
00:22:55,714 --> 00:22:59,214
but we had these songs
that were just coming together.
416
00:22:59,297 --> 00:23:00,881
♪ That's when we fall in line ♪
417
00:23:00,964 --> 00:23:04,506
Just doing those little shows,
it was a really cool time.
418
00:23:04,589 --> 00:23:07,464
We were the house band
at The Whisky.
419
00:23:08,464 --> 00:23:10,547
So, we would open up
for whatever bands
420
00:23:10,631 --> 00:23:11,839
would come into town.
421
00:23:11,923 --> 00:23:15,005
Madness came into town and they
were English, you know,
422
00:23:15,089 --> 00:23:16,339
we loved that.
423
00:23:16,422 --> 00:23:19,005
All-girl band writing
their own tunes?
424
00:23:19,089 --> 00:23:20,839
I mean, outrageous.
425
00:23:20,923 --> 00:23:24,172
Yeah, we got it!
426
00:23:24,255 --> 00:23:26,214
♪ We got the beat ♪
427
00:23:26,297 --> 00:23:28,005
Come on, don't be too cool.
428
00:23:28,089 --> 00:23:29,923
They thought we were great
429
00:23:30,005 --> 00:23:32,839
and they went back and spread
the word about The Go-Go's.
430
00:23:32,923 --> 00:23:37,255
And then, The Specials came
and we opened for them.
431
00:23:37,339 --> 00:23:40,130
One of the best things that
happened for The Go-Go's
432
00:23:40,214 --> 00:23:41,631
was meeting us, you know,
433
00:23:41,714 --> 00:23:45,589
and I would say probably one
of the best thing happened to us
434
00:23:45,673 --> 00:23:47,214
was meeting The Go-Go's.
435
00:23:50,464 --> 00:23:54,923
They were young, they were
fresh, they were beautiful.
436
00:23:55,005 --> 00:23:58,464
We are a bunch of misfits,
of course, that's why it works!
437
00:23:58,547 --> 00:24:00,881
Their manager started
talking with Ginger
438
00:24:00,964 --> 00:24:02,756
about how to bring us over
to England
439
00:24:02,839 --> 00:24:05,964
so we could tour
with both bands.
440
00:24:06,047 --> 00:24:08,756
Somebody from The
Specials came to me and said,
441
00:24:08,839 --> 00:24:11,047
"We're planning
a seaside tour in England.
442
00:24:11,130 --> 00:24:14,881
Do you think your band might be
able to get over there?"
443
00:24:14,964 --> 00:24:16,464
And I said, "Yes!"
444
00:24:17,506 --> 00:24:19,881
I did a lot of pawning
of jewelry
445
00:24:19,964 --> 00:24:21,547
and selling a lot of things
446
00:24:21,631 --> 00:24:24,631
to be able to get the girls
over on that trip.
447
00:24:25,506 --> 00:24:27,172
She sold everything.
448
00:24:27,255 --> 00:24:30,339
Her car,
she put her whole life on sale
449
00:24:30,422 --> 00:24:32,673
basically to fund us
to get to London.
450
00:24:34,547 --> 00:24:37,255
My dad was in
the entertainment industry,
451
00:24:37,339 --> 00:24:40,673
but he was not behind me
being in this band.
452
00:24:41,464 --> 00:24:43,631
He said,
"Hey, there's an opening
453
00:24:43,714 --> 00:24:46,756
at the music library
at Paramount."
454
00:24:47,881 --> 00:24:51,464
I remember it was like
a really good-paying job,
455
00:24:51,547 --> 00:24:54,631
and I just said to him, I said,
"I can't,"
456
00:24:54,714 --> 00:24:57,422
because inside of me
I had to leave.
457
00:24:57,506 --> 00:24:59,839
I had to do this,
I had to do it.
458
00:25:02,798 --> 00:25:05,255
♪ Seen your pictures
in the 'zines ♪
459
00:25:05,339 --> 00:25:07,089
♪ And you look real good ♪
460
00:25:07,172 --> 00:25:09,464
♪ Pale blank faces,
black and white keen ♪
461
00:25:09,547 --> 00:25:11,798
♪ London boys, cigarette lean ♪
462
00:25:11,881 --> 00:25:13,714
♪ London boys,
wish you were here ♪
463
00:25:13,798 --> 00:25:16,673
Because the punk rock
scene had started in England,
464
00:25:16,756 --> 00:25:18,881
all the bands that we worshipped
were English.
465
00:25:18,964 --> 00:25:21,381
I mean, England was always,
for us,
466
00:25:21,464 --> 00:25:24,547
ground zero of great rock music.
467
00:25:24,631 --> 00:25:26,714
It was like Mecca!
468
00:25:29,547 --> 00:25:31,547
When The Go-Go's come over here,
469
00:25:31,631 --> 00:25:34,714
walking around the city is just
really, really bleak.
470
00:25:34,798 --> 00:25:38,339
Shite, absolutely grim, grey.
471
00:25:38,422 --> 00:25:41,631
It wasn't a very nice place
to be.
472
00:25:41,714 --> 00:25:45,464
There seemed to be an air
of something's about to go off.
473
00:25:45,547 --> 00:25:49,839
♪ We're living
in gangster times ♪
474
00:25:50,798 --> 00:25:52,547
Don't call me Scarface!
475
00:25:52,631 --> 00:25:56,881
The Specials
and Madness were both ska bands
476
00:25:56,964 --> 00:25:59,214
and they were stars.
477
00:25:59,297 --> 00:26:02,547
We felt like having these
opening slots with two bands
478
00:26:02,631 --> 00:26:04,506
that were at the top
of their game
479
00:26:04,589 --> 00:26:06,964
and were very, very
successful there,
480
00:26:07,047 --> 00:26:09,214
that, I mean, how could we fail?
481
00:26:12,923 --> 00:26:16,172
It was our first time
touring in a tour bus
482
00:26:16,255 --> 00:26:17,756
and playing every night.
483
00:26:17,839 --> 00:26:21,923
♪ The street lights
are shining bright ♪
484
00:26:22,005 --> 00:26:25,005
♪ The billboards are shedding
their light ♪
485
00:26:26,589 --> 00:26:29,214
♪ My crowd's hanging around ♪
486
00:26:29,297 --> 00:26:31,255
We were being spit at,
487
00:26:31,339 --> 00:26:33,881
stuff thrown at us
every single night.
488
00:26:35,089 --> 00:26:38,047
Ska music attracted a
bunch of the white nationalists,
489
00:26:38,130 --> 00:26:41,255
they called themselves the
National Front in England.
490
00:26:41,339 --> 00:26:43,506
And they hated us!
491
00:26:43,589 --> 00:26:45,589
First of all, we were not ska,
492
00:26:45,673 --> 00:26:48,547
so what the hell were we doing
opening for these ska bands?
493
00:26:48,631 --> 00:26:50,798
Second of all,
we we're Americans.
494
00:26:50,881 --> 00:26:54,714
And third of all, maybe worst
of all, we were chicks.
495
00:26:57,631 --> 00:26:59,172
No, we don't do
that...
496
00:27:00,589 --> 00:27:03,214
You know, here are
these five little girls
497
00:27:03,297 --> 00:27:04,422
from southern California,
498
00:27:04,506 --> 00:27:07,964
get up on stage and play
to these scary skinheads.
499
00:27:08,047 --> 00:27:09,881
It was frightening.
500
00:27:09,964 --> 00:27:13,089
One venue, a fella
was standing people in a line
501
00:27:13,172 --> 00:27:16,714
with a razor,
and another fella with a hammer.
502
00:27:19,547 --> 00:27:21,589
The tours were not going at all
503
00:27:21,673 --> 00:27:24,422
like we thought they were going
to go.
504
00:27:24,506 --> 00:27:25,756
But at the same time,
505
00:27:25,839 --> 00:27:27,923
we were also having the time
of our lives.
506
00:27:28,964 --> 00:27:31,005
There was like a lot of romances
going on
507
00:27:31,089 --> 00:27:32,422
between the band members.
508
00:27:32,506 --> 00:27:35,381
But it was good 'cause we all
had boyfriends in like, Madness
509
00:27:35,464 --> 00:27:39,047
or The Specials to console us
when we got off stage.
510
00:27:39,130 --> 00:27:41,339
Gina is... I love her.
511
00:27:41,422 --> 00:27:43,798
"I just didn't know how
to come and approach you."
512
00:27:43,881 --> 00:27:45,589
I should've asked you
to marry me
513
00:27:45,673 --> 00:27:47,631
and you probably would've
said no,
514
00:27:47,714 --> 00:27:49,339
but I'd have felt better
that I asked.
515
00:27:49,422 --> 00:27:52,005
We had such a good laugh,
oh, she's lovely she is.
516
00:27:54,673 --> 00:27:57,964
I met Terry.
He was in The Specials.
517
00:27:58,047 --> 00:28:00,381
We were very attracted
to each other.
518
00:28:00,464 --> 00:28:02,673
We spent a lot of time together
on the tour
519
00:28:02,756 --> 00:28:04,631
and it was kind of
sort of a romance,
520
00:28:04,714 --> 00:28:07,005
but, I mean, he had a
girlfriend, and supposedly,
521
00:28:07,089 --> 00:28:09,589
she was a fiancée and they were
going to get married.
522
00:28:09,673 --> 00:28:12,047
And I don't know what I was
thinking.
523
00:28:12,130 --> 00:28:15,714
You know, I just thought it was
this big, important romance.
524
00:28:19,631 --> 00:28:20,673
Behind the scenes,
525
00:28:20,756 --> 00:28:23,297
I was bringing their cassette
tapes around.
526
00:28:23,381 --> 00:28:25,714
Stiff Records might have been
a small label,
527
00:28:25,798 --> 00:28:28,381
but they had a group
of dedicated people.
528
00:28:28,464 --> 00:28:30,714
I think Ginger asked us
529
00:28:30,798 --> 00:28:33,339
whether we would like
to sign them,
530
00:28:33,422 --> 00:28:35,881
but I thought an American
punk girl band
531
00:28:36,005 --> 00:28:38,255
who are objecting to
being spit at,
532
00:28:38,339 --> 00:28:41,464
I don't know
that it's going to really work.
533
00:28:41,547 --> 00:28:44,714
But I remember seeing
"We've Got the Beat"
534
00:28:44,798 --> 00:28:46,214
as a potential single,
535
00:28:46,297 --> 00:28:51,214
which was my talent
to find the door opener.
536
00:28:51,297 --> 00:28:53,339
I tried to publish the song
537
00:28:53,422 --> 00:28:55,255
'cause I could see
that it would do well.
538
00:28:55,339 --> 00:28:58,756
They were really pressuring
about the publishing,
539
00:28:58,839 --> 00:29:00,172
and I had been told
540
00:29:00,255 --> 00:29:02,339
that that was something
you don't give up.
541
00:29:02,422 --> 00:29:06,673
Ginger, I think,
was a bit more knowledgeable
542
00:29:06,756 --> 00:29:09,506
about the idea of hold onto
what you've got.
543
00:29:09,589 --> 00:29:11,673
Thank dog she knew
544
00:29:11,756 --> 00:29:13,923
an artist needs to keep
their publishing,
545
00:29:14,005 --> 00:29:17,673
because really it's one of
the only ways to make money,
546
00:29:17,756 --> 00:29:21,714
and it's very valuable and it's
valuable for a lifetime.
547
00:29:21,798 --> 00:29:23,839
Well,
I stuck to my guns
548
00:29:23,923 --> 00:29:27,422
and signed this one single deal
with Stiff Records.
549
00:29:32,297 --> 00:29:36,214
"Friday,
June the 6th in Bridlington.
550
00:29:36,297 --> 00:29:40,798
"Tonight was okay, the audience
were rude but we played fair.
551
00:29:40,881 --> 00:29:43,255
"Bridlington was pretty shitty.
552
00:29:43,339 --> 00:29:46,714
Oh, well,
I guess we'll try harder".
553
00:29:47,839 --> 00:29:50,047
We were just determined, like,
554
00:29:50,130 --> 00:29:52,005
"We're gonna show
those fuckers."
555
00:29:52,089 --> 00:29:53,673
Every night, we'd get on stage
556
00:29:53,756 --> 00:29:56,798
and we would be so belligerent
with our playing,
557
00:29:56,881 --> 00:30:00,589
and just being even more
of who we were.
558
00:30:00,673 --> 00:30:03,506
♪ And you're the one to blame ♪
559
00:30:03,589 --> 00:30:05,839
♪ I used to know my name ♪
560
00:30:05,923 --> 00:30:09,673
♪ But I've lost control
of the game ♪
561
00:30:11,005 --> 00:30:13,422
♪ 'Cause even though I set
the rules ♪
562
00:30:13,506 --> 00:30:16,047
♪ You've got me acting
like a fool ♪
563
00:30:16,130 --> 00:30:18,964
They were really wild,
crazy audiences,
564
00:30:19,047 --> 00:30:21,130
but we made fans, as well.
565
00:30:21,214 --> 00:30:22,798
♪ Lust to love ♪
566
00:30:22,881 --> 00:30:25,130
♪ Was the last thing I was
dreaming of ♪
567
00:30:25,214 --> 00:30:27,589
♪ And now all I want is
just to love ♪
568
00:30:27,673 --> 00:30:31,005
♪ Lust turned to love ♪
569
00:30:31,089 --> 00:30:34,214
They're grew,
they proved themselves,
570
00:30:34,297 --> 00:30:36,839
and for The Go-Go's to pick
themselves from L.A.
571
00:30:36,923 --> 00:30:38,714
and come to London, you know,
572
00:30:38,798 --> 00:30:41,547
wow, respect to them girls,
man, you know.
573
00:30:42,881 --> 00:30:45,130
Their musicianship
compared to us
574
00:30:45,214 --> 00:30:46,631
was second to none.
575
00:30:46,714 --> 00:30:50,130
They taught me a thing or two.
576
00:30:51,214 --> 00:30:52,339
♪ Lust to love ♪
577
00:30:52,422 --> 00:30:53,923
There was nothing much
578
00:30:54,005 --> 00:30:56,130
that we couldn't handle
at that point.
579
00:30:56,214 --> 00:30:57,631
♪ Just to love ♪
580
00:30:57,714 --> 00:31:00,714
♪ Lust turned to love ♪
581
00:31:00,798 --> 00:31:03,047
♪ Lust to love ♪
582
00:31:03,130 --> 00:31:05,964
It was us against the world,
583
00:31:06,047 --> 00:31:10,130
and I think we were ready to
take it to the next level.
584
00:31:14,214 --> 00:31:18,464
Our Stiff Records single was
the key that unlocked the door.
585
00:31:18,547 --> 00:31:22,964
People were able to buy
the single in Los Angeles.
586
00:31:24,673 --> 00:31:28,964
KROQ-AM in Burbank
and KROQ-FM in Pasadena,
587
00:31:29,047 --> 00:31:31,047
we're live on the rocks.
588
00:31:31,130 --> 00:31:33,881
Okay, here's The Go-Go's,
"We Got The Beat."
589
00:31:33,964 --> 00:31:35,756
When we did come back,
590
00:31:35,839 --> 00:31:38,506
it was like the triumphant
return of the home girls,
591
00:31:38,589 --> 00:31:40,047
The Go-Go's!
592
00:31:40,130 --> 00:31:42,381
Everyone thought we were huge
stars in England
593
00:31:42,464 --> 00:31:45,339
and we were not telling them
anything different.
594
00:31:45,422 --> 00:31:47,673
I remember doing our first show
595
00:31:47,756 --> 00:31:50,589
after we got back
at the Starwood.
596
00:31:50,673 --> 00:31:53,673
There were kids wrapped around
the block to get in to see us.
597
00:31:53,756 --> 00:31:55,631
We were like,
"Whoa, what happened?"
598
00:31:55,714 --> 00:31:57,589
And I guess our strategy worked.
599
00:32:06,464 --> 00:32:10,381
I was in the Starwood one night
and The Go-Go's were playing,
600
00:32:10,464 --> 00:32:12,547
and they had been in England.
601
00:32:12,631 --> 00:32:15,964
♪ Go-Go music really
makes us dance ♪
602
00:32:16,047 --> 00:32:19,589
It was packed
and everyone was going crazy.
603
00:32:19,673 --> 00:32:22,214
That's when they got more
of my attention.
604
00:32:22,297 --> 00:32:24,422
I thought,
"Okay, they're going places."
605
00:32:24,506 --> 00:32:27,506
♪ 'Cause we got the beat,
we got the beat ♪
606
00:32:27,589 --> 00:32:29,839
♪ We got the beat ♪
607
00:32:29,923 --> 00:32:33,381
♪ Yeah, we got it ♪
608
00:32:33,464 --> 00:32:35,214
♪ We got the beat ♪
609
00:32:35,297 --> 00:32:38,255
The difference from before
that tour and after the tour
610
00:32:38,339 --> 00:32:40,130
was just stunning.
611
00:32:40,214 --> 00:32:41,547
♪ We got the beat ♪
612
00:32:41,631 --> 00:32:44,214
I was like, "Oh, my God,
this is going to be huge."
613
00:32:44,297 --> 00:32:46,339
-♪ We got the beat ♪
-♪ We got the beat ♪
614
00:32:46,422 --> 00:32:48,255
♪ We got the beat ♪
615
00:32:48,339 --> 00:32:50,130
-♪ We got the beat ♪
-♪ We got the beat ♪
616
00:32:50,214 --> 00:32:52,089
-♪ We got the beat ♪
-♪ We got the beat ♪
617
00:32:52,172 --> 00:32:54,381
♪ We got the beat ♪
618
00:32:56,381 --> 00:32:58,756
People would freak out
when we played.
619
00:32:58,839 --> 00:33:00,089
It was great.
620
00:33:00,172 --> 00:33:03,881
I mean, we felt like we were
at the top of our game,
621
00:33:03,964 --> 00:33:06,047
and yet we couldn't get anywhere
with it.
622
00:33:12,297 --> 00:33:14,673
I had a file folder
of rejection letters
623
00:33:14,756 --> 00:33:16,422
from record labels
in Los Angeles.
624
00:33:16,506 --> 00:33:20,464
"Thanks, but you know, all-girl
bands just don't sell records."
625
00:33:21,381 --> 00:33:23,422
They wouldn't sign us
we were told
626
00:33:23,506 --> 00:33:26,297
because we were girls, and
there'd been no predecessor
627
00:33:26,381 --> 00:33:27,756
that had been that successful.
628
00:33:27,839 --> 00:33:29,297
There'd been The Runaways,
629
00:33:29,381 --> 00:33:33,631
but we put ourselves together,
we had no Svengali.
630
00:33:33,714 --> 00:33:35,255
It was ridiculous.
631
00:33:35,339 --> 00:33:38,756
Okay, we were girls,
but look at what we're doing.
632
00:33:38,839 --> 00:33:41,130
You know,
close your eyes and listen.
633
00:33:41,214 --> 00:33:44,297
♪ I know a cat who can
really do the cool jerk ♪
634
00:33:44,381 --> 00:33:46,589
Through the years
I've been asked,
635
00:33:46,673 --> 00:33:48,381
"Were you feminists?"
636
00:33:48,464 --> 00:33:52,589
We were, I realize it now,
because of our attitudes,
637
00:33:52,673 --> 00:33:55,381
but we weren't, "We're going
to do this against the guys
638
00:33:55,464 --> 00:33:57,881
and you know, fuck them,"
that kind of thing.
639
00:33:57,964 --> 00:33:59,130
We weren't like that at all.
640
00:33:59,214 --> 00:34:01,172
♪ When they see me
walking down the street ♪
641
00:34:01,255 --> 00:34:02,839
We thought anything
was possible,
642
00:34:02,923 --> 00:34:05,089
including succeeding
in that industry
643
00:34:05,172 --> 00:34:06,798
that was run by men.
644
00:34:06,881 --> 00:34:10,673
♪ They know I'm the queen
of the cool jerk ♪
645
00:34:10,756 --> 00:34:12,381
♪ Oh cool jerk ♪
646
00:34:12,464 --> 00:34:15,172
Knowing
about being a woman in a band
647
00:34:15,255 --> 00:34:18,339
and how many obstacles
they'd had to face,
648
00:34:18,422 --> 00:34:22,172
that the response isn't,
"I'm going to quit."
649
00:34:22,255 --> 00:34:23,547
Bring it down!
650
00:34:23,631 --> 00:34:26,422
Whooooo!
651
00:34:26,506 --> 00:34:29,714
It's, "Thank you, assholes,
for telling me I can't do this.
652
00:34:29,798 --> 00:34:31,089
Thanks for the inspiration,
653
00:34:31,172 --> 00:34:33,297
now watch me get my next
hit single."
654
00:34:40,089 --> 00:34:42,714
After we got home from England,
655
00:34:42,798 --> 00:34:45,923
I would move back and forth
from my parents' all the time
656
00:34:46,005 --> 00:34:48,923
because I'd run out of money.
657
00:34:49,005 --> 00:34:51,172
Terry stayed in touch.
658
00:34:51,255 --> 00:34:53,547
He would send me letters,
and in one letter
659
00:34:53,631 --> 00:34:56,547
he talked about how he dreamed
of having his own band.
660
00:34:56,631 --> 00:34:58,214
and he sent me a bunch
of lyrics.
661
00:34:58,297 --> 00:35:01,839
And he said, "I'm going to write
these songs."
662
00:35:12,089 --> 00:35:15,964
I saw the lyrical beginning
to "Our Lips Are Sealed."
663
00:35:31,297 --> 00:35:33,339
And even though I'd gotten
a little bit lazy
664
00:35:33,422 --> 00:35:36,297
about writing music because
Charlotte was so good at it,
665
00:35:36,381 --> 00:35:38,798
I figured, why should
I bother, I'll just do lyrics.
666
00:35:38,881 --> 00:35:41,839
But this time, I actually went
back to writing music.
667
00:35:56,422 --> 00:35:58,339
I just thought it was such
a good song.
668
00:35:58,422 --> 00:35:59,506
I was so in love with it.
669
00:35:59,589 --> 00:36:01,839
I didn't show it to the band
for weeks and weeks
670
00:36:01,923 --> 00:36:04,214
'cause I was so afraid
if they didn't like it,
671
00:36:04,297 --> 00:36:06,381
what was I gonna do?
I was gonna... die.
672
00:36:06,464 --> 00:36:09,923
I remember hearing
that song for the first time.
673
00:36:10,005 --> 00:36:11,756
I was completely blown away
with it.
674
00:36:11,839 --> 00:36:13,422
♪ No secrets to reveal ♪
675
00:36:13,506 --> 00:36:16,631
Because of Jane's not being
a trained musician and writer,
676
00:36:16,714 --> 00:36:19,297
the chord progression
in that song is so unusual.
677
00:36:19,381 --> 00:36:21,297
♪ ...people play ♪
678
00:36:21,381 --> 00:36:23,297
It really got your attention.
679
00:36:23,381 --> 00:36:25,839
♪ Our lips are sealed ♪
680
00:36:25,923 --> 00:36:28,381
♪ Pay no mind to what
they say ♪
681
00:36:28,464 --> 00:36:32,214
We started writing
more melodic songs,
682
00:36:32,297 --> 00:36:35,756
and we got this hybrid
of pop and punk.
683
00:36:35,839 --> 00:36:38,964
♪ Hush now darling,
our lips are sealed ♪
684
00:36:39,047 --> 00:36:40,923
♪ Hush now... ♪
685
00:36:43,506 --> 00:36:46,464
It was changing and some people
didn't like the change.
686
00:36:48,839 --> 00:36:50,631
My identity as a punk,
687
00:36:50,714 --> 00:36:52,464
I was so absorbed in the scene,
688
00:36:52,547 --> 00:36:57,047
it was my life, my lifestyle,
my everything.
689
00:36:57,130 --> 00:36:59,422
Oh, yeah, Margot, fuck, man,
yeah, she hated it.
690
00:36:59,506 --> 00:37:01,881
She's like, "I don't want
to be a fucking pop band!
691
00:37:01,964 --> 00:37:03,798
I'm in a punk band."
692
00:37:03,881 --> 00:37:07,673
And I don't know, I think
the rest of us were like,
693
00:37:07,756 --> 00:37:09,464
this is evolving,
694
00:37:09,547 --> 00:37:13,172
so fucking get with it
or get out, I don't know.
695
00:37:13,255 --> 00:37:16,339
You know,
it wasn't just the music,
696
00:37:16,422 --> 00:37:20,506
it was the sense of being
packaged into a product.
697
00:37:21,839 --> 00:37:26,589
It was just becoming less
about art and more about money.
698
00:37:27,798 --> 00:37:30,547
I just felt like, what
the fuck are you doing it for,
699
00:37:30,631 --> 00:37:33,506
to stay with a following
of a couple of thousand people?
700
00:37:33,589 --> 00:37:35,881
Or do you want to have people
all over this country
701
00:37:35,964 --> 00:37:38,089
know your music
and know your songwriting,
702
00:37:38,172 --> 00:37:40,714
know, you know, what kind of
musician you are?
703
00:37:42,839 --> 00:37:47,214
We had shows over
New Year's Eve at The Whisky,
704
00:37:47,297 --> 00:37:49,547
and Margot had
gotten really, really sick.
705
00:37:49,631 --> 00:37:52,381
So, we had to scramble around
and find someone.
706
00:37:54,964 --> 00:37:59,381
Kathy, I met
at the Whisky a Go Go.
707
00:37:59,464 --> 00:38:01,464
I was approached by Charlotte
708
00:38:01,547 --> 00:38:04,547
and asked if I could play bass,
and I said yes.
709
00:38:04,631 --> 00:38:05,756
It was a big lie.
710
00:38:05,839 --> 00:38:09,964
I figured, I've been playing
guitar five or six years,
711
00:38:10,047 --> 00:38:12,339
why can't I play a bass?
712
00:38:12,422 --> 00:38:14,005
So, I go home.
713
00:38:14,089 --> 00:38:17,714
First thing in the morning,
I borrow a bass from somebody.
714
00:38:17,798 --> 00:38:19,005
Charlotte came over.
715
00:38:19,089 --> 00:38:20,964
She brought me a little
cassette.
716
00:38:21,047 --> 00:38:23,381
She left.
717
00:38:23,464 --> 00:38:26,047
I plugged my bass
into my guitar amp.
718
00:38:27,756 --> 00:38:29,589
Feels weird, I use my pick.
719
00:38:33,839 --> 00:38:36,923
I start listening, I can't
hear, it's a rehearsal tape.
720
00:38:37,005 --> 00:38:38,464
It sounds, you know... zzzt!
721
00:38:41,005 --> 00:38:42,255
You know, I'm like, "Shit."
722
00:38:45,798 --> 00:38:48,589
First thing I have to do is
learn on guitar the chords,
723
00:38:48,673 --> 00:38:50,923
because I can't hear.
724
00:38:53,172 --> 00:38:56,255
Then, I started picking up
some of the bass parts.
725
00:38:56,339 --> 00:38:58,297
What I could make out
I learned,
726
00:38:58,381 --> 00:39:02,047
what I couldn't make out
I just made up my own.
727
00:39:06,673 --> 00:39:08,756
I played it over and over.
728
00:39:10,464 --> 00:39:12,089
I'm a perfectionist, you know.
729
00:39:14,631 --> 00:39:16,673
The only way to do it
as much as I was doing it
730
00:39:16,756 --> 00:39:20,297
was to get pharmaceutical help.
731
00:39:24,714 --> 00:39:27,798
I basically learned all
their songs on a coke binge.
732
00:39:37,422 --> 00:39:39,464
Charlotte came over to see
how it was going.
733
00:39:39,547 --> 00:39:41,631
I went to her house.
734
00:39:41,714 --> 00:39:43,297
She was kind of like
in the middle
735
00:39:43,381 --> 00:39:45,673
of like a three-day bender
on coke,
736
00:39:45,756 --> 00:39:48,214
and I'd never met anyone
like that.
737
00:39:48,297 --> 00:39:49,964
And I thought, "Wow, my God."
738
00:39:50,047 --> 00:39:53,714
She was a badass musician.
739
00:39:53,798 --> 00:39:57,631
She learned those songs on bass
in, like, a couple days,
740
00:39:57,714 --> 00:39:59,047
and she had never played bass.
741
00:39:59,130 --> 00:40:01,255
By the time
I'd learned those songs,
742
00:40:01,339 --> 00:40:02,798
I just wanted to be in the band.
743
00:40:02,881 --> 00:40:04,673
In case you haven't noticed,
744
00:40:04,756 --> 00:40:07,881
we have a bass player filling
in for Margot, she's sick,
745
00:40:07,964 --> 00:40:09,005
and her name's Kathy.
746
00:40:09,089 --> 00:40:11,130
Kathy Valentine, yeah.
747
00:40:12,798 --> 00:40:17,214
In came Kathy Valentine like
a knight in shining armor.
748
00:40:19,714 --> 00:40:23,381
I got to be there
with the sold-out shows.
749
00:40:23,464 --> 00:40:26,297
It was everything that I had
been looking for
750
00:40:26,381 --> 00:40:29,005
since I started playing.
751
00:40:30,214 --> 00:40:31,673
I'm an only child,
752
00:40:31,756 --> 00:40:35,255
and it was just me
and my mom when I was raised.
753
00:40:35,339 --> 00:40:39,964
I really liked the idea
of a band being a family.
754
00:40:41,214 --> 00:40:42,881
Right away, I just felt like
755
00:40:42,964 --> 00:40:44,798
these are going to be
my sisters.
756
00:40:44,881 --> 00:40:48,422
Something just felt right,
it just felt like, "We're here."
757
00:40:48,506 --> 00:40:51,255
♪ Last night you slept,
you slept in fits ♪
758
00:40:51,339 --> 00:40:53,339
♪ You smashed your windows
bit by bit ♪
759
00:40:53,422 --> 00:40:55,506
They wanted me
and I wanted them
760
00:40:55,589 --> 00:40:58,339
and I guess it's a lot
like cheaters,
761
00:40:58,422 --> 00:41:01,130
you know, people having affairs.
762
00:41:02,756 --> 00:41:05,547
I remember Margot
being true to herself
763
00:41:05,631 --> 00:41:07,297
and very authentic.
764
00:41:07,381 --> 00:41:10,589
She wanted to remain a punk band
but we didn't,
765
00:41:10,673 --> 00:41:15,547
so we just decided it was best
to carry on without her.
766
00:41:17,839 --> 00:41:20,756
I was told I had to do
the firing because,
767
00:41:20,839 --> 00:41:23,714
"You're the manager, Ginger,
you've got to do it."
768
00:41:23,798 --> 00:41:27,214
Because none of them had the...
the guts to do it.
769
00:41:30,089 --> 00:41:34,047
It was a shock to get
a phone call from Ginger.
770
00:41:34,130 --> 00:41:35,631
"You're out of the band.
771
00:41:35,714 --> 00:41:38,130
The girls didn't want
to tell you."
772
00:41:38,214 --> 00:41:42,172
It was a decision that they had
made and that was it.
773
00:41:44,005 --> 00:41:47,089
It was something I'd worked
so hard for
774
00:41:47,172 --> 00:41:50,255
and with friends.
775
00:41:50,339 --> 00:41:53,923
People ask me, "How do you deal
with such betrayal?"
776
00:41:54,005 --> 00:41:56,172
In our little scene in L.A.,
777
00:41:56,255 --> 00:41:59,255
there was lots of gossip and
lots of people talking about us,
778
00:41:59,339 --> 00:42:00,881
and not in a good way.
779
00:42:00,964 --> 00:42:03,964
We had fired Margot,
we had sold out,
780
00:42:04,047 --> 00:42:07,756
we weren't a punk band,
we were ambitious.
781
00:42:09,631 --> 00:42:12,589
In the community,
it became like a divorce
782
00:42:12,673 --> 00:42:15,673
because it was like they were
on a rocket to fame
783
00:42:15,756 --> 00:42:17,631
and they decided to fuck
Margot over.
784
00:42:17,714 --> 00:42:21,339
I knew I would miss
the scene and the community,
785
00:42:21,422 --> 00:42:23,547
but I didn't want to be
hanging out
786
00:42:23,631 --> 00:42:27,130
where I would risk running
into them.
787
00:42:27,214 --> 00:42:29,214
I didn't want to see them
at all.
788
00:42:30,506 --> 00:42:33,089
♪ Pay no mind
to what they say ♪
789
00:42:34,464 --> 00:42:37,547
♪ It doesn't matter anyway,
hey hey hey ♪
790
00:42:37,631 --> 00:42:40,631
I didn't think about how
that must have felt for her.
791
00:42:40,714 --> 00:42:41,964
♪ Our lips are sealed ♪
792
00:42:42,047 --> 00:42:44,464
There were shows booked
for three weeks later
793
00:42:44,547 --> 00:42:46,047
and I just wanted to make sure
794
00:42:46,130 --> 00:42:47,756
I was the one doing them,
you know.
795
00:42:47,839 --> 00:42:51,005
♪ Pay no mind
to what they say ♪
796
00:42:51,089 --> 00:42:53,506
Kathy Valentine fit right in
797
00:42:53,589 --> 00:42:55,464
and was the needed change
798
00:42:55,547 --> 00:42:57,673
to propel the band
to their next step.
799
00:42:57,756 --> 00:43:02,673
♪ Our lips are sealed,
our lips are sealed ♪
800
00:43:04,798 --> 00:43:09,589
You have no idea how barren
the landscape was in '81.
801
00:43:09,673 --> 00:43:13,339
The idea that women,
a host of different women,
802
00:43:13,422 --> 00:43:16,339
would tell their stories
in these kinds of songs
803
00:43:16,422 --> 00:43:17,881
and do it the punk way.
804
00:43:19,297 --> 00:43:22,297
Finding their own way
in a very difficult environment,
805
00:43:22,381 --> 00:43:23,923
that was unheard of.
806
00:43:30,756 --> 00:43:33,130
There was a whole new generation
of music coming up
807
00:43:33,214 --> 00:43:36,005
and the establishment record
business
808
00:43:36,089 --> 00:43:38,047
really sort of dismissed them,
809
00:43:38,130 --> 00:43:42,339
and I saw them
as a generational change.
810
00:43:42,422 --> 00:43:44,714
Miles Copeland,
who managed The Police,
811
00:43:44,798 --> 00:43:47,547
decided to start his
own boutique label.
812
00:43:47,631 --> 00:43:49,881
He called it IRS Records.
813
00:43:49,964 --> 00:43:51,881
Part of what
I wanted to do
814
00:43:51,964 --> 00:43:55,172
was to find some local
American bands.
815
00:43:56,255 --> 00:43:58,297
And I'd heard about The Go-Go's.
816
00:43:58,381 --> 00:44:01,923
All girls, punks from L.A.?
817
00:44:02,005 --> 00:44:04,547
Even if they were crap
you'd almost want to sign them,
818
00:44:04,631 --> 00:44:05,756
you know what I mean?
819
00:44:05,839 --> 00:44:09,255
But they were good
and they had good songs.
820
00:44:09,339 --> 00:44:12,631
We signed on April 1st
to IRS Records
821
00:44:12,714 --> 00:44:16,214
and the next day
we flew to New York.
822
00:44:16,297 --> 00:44:19,089
♪ ...if you could
and be one of us ♪
823
00:44:19,172 --> 00:44:21,297
We played a couple more gigs.
824
00:44:26,005 --> 00:44:28,422
You know, I was 22 years old
825
00:44:28,506 --> 00:44:30,506
in New York City making
a record.
826
00:44:30,589 --> 00:44:33,297
♪ Change the lines
that were said before ♪
827
00:44:33,381 --> 00:44:34,756
♪ We're all dreamers ♪
828
00:44:34,839 --> 00:44:37,631
With The Go-Go's as a punk band,
829
00:44:37,714 --> 00:44:38,881
they didn't have the experience
830
00:44:38,964 --> 00:44:43,839
to know they could do more than
just execute the moment.
831
00:44:43,923 --> 00:44:47,339
That's what I would try
to instill in them,
832
00:44:47,422 --> 00:44:50,464
to say there are grooves,
there are feelings.
833
00:44:50,547 --> 00:44:55,005
If your songs are really good,
you don't run through them.
834
00:44:55,089 --> 00:44:58,005
♪ Change the lines
that were said before ♪
835
00:44:58,089 --> 00:45:00,881
♪ We're all dreamers,
we're all whores ♪
836
00:45:00,964 --> 00:45:04,547
♪ Discarded stars
like worn-out cars ♪
837
00:45:04,631 --> 00:45:07,339
When Richard Gottehrer
got a hold of us,
838
00:45:07,422 --> 00:45:08,923
he said, "Slow everything down."
839
00:45:09,005 --> 00:45:11,798
♪ This town,
litter the streets ♪
840
00:45:11,881 --> 00:45:14,631
So, you could actually
understand the words
841
00:45:14,714 --> 00:45:17,464
and the melodies were more
flowing.
842
00:45:17,547 --> 00:45:20,047
♪ This town is our town ♪
843
00:45:20,130 --> 00:45:22,839
♪ It is so glamorous ♪
844
00:45:22,923 --> 00:45:25,506
That's when I realized,
these are all pop songs.
845
00:45:25,589 --> 00:45:28,297
♪ And be one of us ♪
846
00:45:30,881 --> 00:45:32,673
I think actually it was my idea
847
00:45:32,756 --> 00:45:34,964
for the face masks
and towels,
848
00:45:35,047 --> 00:45:37,547
to sort of be timeless
and incognito.
849
00:45:37,631 --> 00:45:39,964
I thought fabulous graphically,
850
00:45:40,047 --> 00:45:42,923
I thought, "Oh, that could be
really brilliant."
851
00:45:43,964 --> 00:45:45,673
Once again we had no money,
852
00:45:45,756 --> 00:45:49,506
so Ginger went to Macy's
and bought all those towels.
853
00:45:49,589 --> 00:45:53,047
She returned those towels
to Macy's afterwards.
854
00:45:53,130 --> 00:45:54,506
I couldn't invest in all these
855
00:45:54,589 --> 00:45:56,756
brand-new fluffy, white,
expensive towels.
856
00:45:56,839 --> 00:45:58,464
We couldn't afford those.
857
00:45:58,547 --> 00:46:01,297
♪ It is so glamorous ♪
858
00:46:01,381 --> 00:46:04,964
We were like going through
adolescence again together.
859
00:46:08,130 --> 00:46:10,881
Being the good
middle-class boy growing up,
860
00:46:10,964 --> 00:46:13,255
girls are one way,
guys are another way.
861
00:46:13,339 --> 00:46:15,464
Well, I learned it's not
like that.
862
00:46:15,547 --> 00:46:18,130
I learned that completely
from them.
863
00:46:20,172 --> 00:46:23,130
We'd get done with a session
and I'd hear something like,
864
00:46:23,214 --> 00:46:25,047
"Let's go get some booty
tonight."
865
00:46:25,130 --> 00:46:26,714
And I'm thinking, "booty?"
866
00:46:28,589 --> 00:46:30,547
We had a lot of fun,
did a lot of drugs,
867
00:46:30,631 --> 00:46:33,047
drank a lot,
just like a band does.
868
00:46:34,089 --> 00:46:36,589
Just a bunch of scruffy girls
869
00:46:36,673 --> 00:46:39,381
having the time of our life.
870
00:46:39,464 --> 00:46:41,172
♪ This town ♪
871
00:46:43,255 --> 00:46:48,089
But in the midst of all the
bonding and insanity and fun,
872
00:46:48,172 --> 00:46:52,881
I just felt so much distance
with Charlotte.
873
00:46:55,297 --> 00:46:58,881
Charlotte tended to
isolate herself quite a bit.
874
00:46:58,964 --> 00:47:00,089
So, we had really...
875
00:47:00,172 --> 00:47:02,130
she had this whole secret life
going on.
876
00:47:02,214 --> 00:47:04,005
We knew it probably wasn't good.
877
00:47:05,964 --> 00:47:08,130
Okay, let me talk about myself.
878
00:47:08,214 --> 00:47:10,923
I was full-blown heroin addict
at the time.
879
00:47:11,005 --> 00:47:13,923
So, I would be scoring dope,
which is so scary.
880
00:47:14,005 --> 00:47:16,339
Like, I'd go down
to Alphabet City. Yikes!
881
00:47:18,005 --> 00:47:20,923
When I moved to
New York, I became a squatter
882
00:47:21,005 --> 00:47:23,214
living in what is now
the East Village,
883
00:47:23,297 --> 00:47:27,964
and I saw Charlotte walking east
to Alphabet City.
884
00:47:29,464 --> 00:47:32,923
The Alphabets is where everyone
would go to cop drugs,
885
00:47:33,005 --> 00:47:35,214
so I knew where she was going.
886
00:47:41,089 --> 00:47:43,297
After I graduated from college,
887
00:47:43,381 --> 00:47:45,130
I tried heroin
for the first time.
888
00:47:45,214 --> 00:47:47,923
"Oh, let me try this.
I'll be fine!"
889
00:47:48,005 --> 00:47:49,005
It was like, you know,
890
00:47:49,089 --> 00:47:52,714
a little matchstick head size
that I snorted.
891
00:47:53,798 --> 00:47:55,339
It made me feel like really
great,
892
00:47:55,422 --> 00:47:58,130
and I was like,
"Wow, I like this feeling!"
893
00:47:58,214 --> 00:48:00,297
But I didn't understand
at that time,
894
00:48:00,381 --> 00:48:02,422
like, it was deadly shit.
895
00:48:02,506 --> 00:48:05,172
Then, I became addicted.
896
00:48:05,255 --> 00:48:08,964
♪ Automatic, time stop ♪
897
00:48:09,047 --> 00:48:11,297
She and I were like
sharing a room together
898
00:48:11,381 --> 00:48:15,172
and she was actively having
a heroin addiction,
899
00:48:15,255 --> 00:48:18,714
which I never saw her take
heroin, I never saw heroin.
900
00:48:18,798 --> 00:48:21,297
I mean, how did she do that?
She was very secretive.
901
00:48:21,381 --> 00:48:24,422
She'd come to rehearsal, I'd
say, "Look at her fucking eyes!
902
00:48:24,506 --> 00:48:26,339
Her eyes are pinned,
look at her eyes!"
903
00:48:26,422 --> 00:48:28,631
I went and I knocked
on her door.
904
00:48:28,714 --> 00:48:31,214
She answered
and she had on her Ray-Bans.
905
00:48:31,297 --> 00:48:33,673
And I said, "They told me
that you do heroin."
906
00:48:33,756 --> 00:48:36,172
And she just looked at me,
she said, "No, no, no."
907
00:48:36,255 --> 00:48:38,130
And I was like,
"Oh, okay, good."
908
00:48:38,214 --> 00:48:40,339
She was way more out of control
909
00:48:40,422 --> 00:48:44,089
than I think any of us
really knew about.
910
00:48:46,172 --> 00:48:47,214
You alright?
911
00:48:47,297 --> 00:48:49,714
Yeah, I'm trying to figure
something out here.
912
00:48:49,798 --> 00:48:50,798
Okay, go ahead.
913
00:48:50,881 --> 00:48:52,881
Just put yours first,
just keep it the same.
914
00:48:52,964 --> 00:48:55,673
Are we both saying it?
"Hi, we're Kathy and Charlotte."
915
00:48:55,756 --> 00:48:57,547
Yeah, let's just do it.
916
00:48:57,631 --> 00:48:59,756
Okay,
we'll give it a try.
917
00:48:59,839 --> 00:49:02,756
Here we go.
In three, two...
918
00:49:02,839 --> 00:49:06,089
Hi, we're Kathy and
Charlotte of The Go-Go's
919
00:49:06,172 --> 00:49:09,589
and you can watch MTV
24 hours a day
920
00:49:09,673 --> 00:49:12,297
on cable vision in stereo.
921
00:49:18,756 --> 00:49:20,798
♪ Can you hear them? ♪
922
00:49:20,881 --> 00:49:22,798
♪ They talk about us... ♪
923
00:49:22,881 --> 00:49:25,089
The Go-Go's and MTV came up
924
00:49:25,172 --> 00:49:28,130
at the perfect time
for each other,
925
00:49:28,214 --> 00:49:30,673
because MTV was all about,
926
00:49:30,756 --> 00:49:33,923
"This is what the artists
that you love look like."
927
00:49:34,005 --> 00:49:38,381
They came along looking adorable
and effervescent and fun.
928
00:49:38,464 --> 00:49:40,923
It just was a match made
in heaven.
929
00:49:41,005 --> 00:49:43,172
♪ Hey hey hey ♪
930
00:49:44,172 --> 00:49:47,214
♪ Our lips are sealed ♪
931
00:49:47,297 --> 00:49:50,214
Well, it was a cheap
music video, actually.
932
00:49:50,297 --> 00:49:53,756
"Our Lips Are Sealed"
was done on a $6000 budget,
933
00:49:53,839 --> 00:49:57,631
and that money came
from a Police video
934
00:49:57,714 --> 00:50:00,005
that they didn't spend
all their money on,
935
00:50:00,089 --> 00:50:04,005
so Miles took the money
and let us spend it.
936
00:50:04,089 --> 00:50:05,547
♪ Doesn't matter
what they say ♪
937
00:50:05,631 --> 00:50:08,589
We had no idea how
important video was going to be,
938
00:50:08,673 --> 00:50:10,964
so we thought,
"This is a big waste of time.
939
00:50:11,047 --> 00:50:12,839
Why are we doing this?"
940
00:50:12,923 --> 00:50:14,089
None of us took it seriously.
941
00:50:14,172 --> 00:50:17,130
We wanted to get arrested
and have that on tape.
942
00:50:18,172 --> 00:50:20,506
We decided if we jumped
in the fountain,
943
00:50:20,589 --> 00:50:22,839
the Beverly Hills cops
would come and arrest us
944
00:50:22,923 --> 00:50:25,172
and it would be a really great
way to end the video.
945
00:50:25,255 --> 00:50:27,839
So, we're sitting there
frolicking in the water,
946
00:50:27,923 --> 00:50:29,714
frolicking, frolicking,
frolicking.
947
00:50:29,798 --> 00:50:32,172
We jumped around
in that goddamn fountain
948
00:50:32,255 --> 00:50:35,089
for quite a while and nobody
even paid any attention to us.
949
00:50:35,172 --> 00:50:37,798
No one would arrest us.
950
00:50:37,881 --> 00:50:41,297
Next thing you know, MTV
is the biggest thing in America
951
00:50:41,381 --> 00:50:43,839
and they're showing The Go-Go's
every half hour.
952
00:50:43,923 --> 00:50:47,381
♪ Our lips are sealed ♪
953
00:50:47,464 --> 00:50:51,047
I was saying to
Ginger, "Your band is happening.
954
00:50:51,130 --> 00:50:53,381
If we put you on
opening for The Police,
955
00:50:53,464 --> 00:50:58,214
it's going to really open so
many more eyes and more ears
956
00:50:58,297 --> 00:51:01,172
that it might really help make
the difference."
957
00:51:01,255 --> 00:51:05,047
Miles Copeland,
with his vision saying,
958
00:51:05,130 --> 00:51:08,172
"Would you like The Go-Go's to
open for The Police?" Why, yes!
959
00:51:08,255 --> 00:51:12,255
It was a coup for us because
they were huge at the time.
960
00:51:12,339 --> 00:51:14,756
We traveled around the world
opening for them.
961
00:51:21,255 --> 00:51:24,172
They were the best
opening act ever.
962
00:51:24,255 --> 00:51:27,005
The Go-Go's came out, they were
so enthusiastic, so up,
963
00:51:27,089 --> 00:51:28,547
their songs were so bright
964
00:51:28,631 --> 00:51:30,756
that they just would light up
the room.
965
00:51:31,964 --> 00:51:34,172
♪ Walking by ♪
966
00:51:34,255 --> 00:51:39,005
♪ You hold your head
so close to hers ♪
967
00:51:39,089 --> 00:51:44,005
♪ I could cry, I could cry ♪
968
00:51:44,089 --> 00:51:45,964
♪ I want to be... ♪
969
00:51:46,047 --> 00:51:48,339
When we toured with The Police,
970
00:51:48,422 --> 00:51:51,589
it took us from playing clubs
to arenas.
971
00:51:51,673 --> 00:51:54,964
When I walked out on stage,
I almost died.
972
00:51:57,547 --> 00:51:59,798
♪ How much more can I take ♪
973
00:51:59,881 --> 00:52:02,339
They had the most
important ingredient
974
00:52:02,422 --> 00:52:04,297
of musicianship, which is feel.
975
00:52:04,381 --> 00:52:07,881
They established a groove
that worked,
976
00:52:07,964 --> 00:52:09,506
that you could lock into.
977
00:52:09,589 --> 00:52:12,714
They just created something
that exploded on the stage.
978
00:52:12,798 --> 00:52:15,881
♪ Yeah,
crazy oh yeah ♪
979
00:52:15,964 --> 00:52:17,339
Yeah!
980
00:52:23,506 --> 00:52:25,839
During that Police tour,
981
00:52:25,923 --> 00:52:28,339
our album kept going up and up
and up in the chart.
982
00:52:28,422 --> 00:52:31,506
Their album was like a sky
rocket,
983
00:52:31,589 --> 00:52:33,839
and that made it really fun
for us.
984
00:52:33,923 --> 00:52:37,798
It was like a vicarious thrill
because we were old and jaded,
985
00:52:37,881 --> 00:52:40,756
to see these women, a new band,
986
00:52:40,839 --> 00:52:43,756
experiencing the thrill
for the first time,
987
00:52:43,839 --> 00:52:45,589
that lit us up.
988
00:52:45,673 --> 00:52:49,005
We were in Atlanta and
Sting came in the dressing room
989
00:52:49,089 --> 00:52:52,589
and he's got champagne.
"Congratulations, girls."
990
00:52:52,673 --> 00:52:54,214
We're looking at him,
like, what?
991
00:52:54,297 --> 00:52:58,339
He said,
"Your record has passed ours."
992
00:52:58,422 --> 00:53:01,464
They were number six
and then we went to number one.
993
00:53:04,255 --> 00:53:06,214
They brought us champagne.
994
00:53:06,297 --> 00:53:09,130
It was actually very gentlemanly
of them to do that
995
00:53:09,214 --> 00:53:11,631
and not kick us off the tour!
996
00:53:11,714 --> 00:53:14,464
Beauty And The Beat's
gone to number one
997
00:53:14,547 --> 00:53:18,297
and I think we were all kind
of over the moon.
998
00:53:19,506 --> 00:53:22,506
This is it, this is everything.
999
00:53:22,589 --> 00:53:26,631
Every step along the way,
it just kept getting better.
1000
00:53:26,714 --> 00:53:31,047
I wish there was another phrase
other than "dream come true,"
1001
00:53:31,130 --> 00:53:32,839
because it was so beyond that.
1002
00:53:32,923 --> 00:53:35,464
It was like fulfilled
everything.
1003
00:53:35,547 --> 00:53:37,297
This is a circus.
1004
00:53:40,464 --> 00:53:43,130
When you have something
that bucks the system
1005
00:53:43,214 --> 00:53:45,422
and succeeds,
it opens people's eyes.
1006
00:53:45,506 --> 00:53:48,255
They did something that no group
has ever done before them,
1007
00:53:48,339 --> 00:53:51,172
and that is have a number-one
album in the United States,
1008
00:53:51,255 --> 00:53:53,005
being all girls.
1009
00:53:53,089 --> 00:53:56,506
They opened people's eyes
to potential for women
1010
00:53:56,589 --> 00:53:59,923
to do something that had never
really been done before.
1011
00:54:01,339 --> 00:54:04,506
For The Go-Go's to have a debut
album go to number one,
1012
00:54:04,589 --> 00:54:07,839
that's something that only like
26 other artists have done,
1013
00:54:07,923 --> 00:54:12,047
like you know, the biggies,
Elvis, The Beatles.
1014
00:54:12,130 --> 00:54:14,047
They made history.
1015
00:54:14,130 --> 00:54:15,881
They're the first
all-female band
1016
00:54:15,964 --> 00:54:17,339
to play their own instruments,
1017
00:54:17,422 --> 00:54:21,756
write their own songs,
number-one record for six weeks.
1018
00:54:21,839 --> 00:54:23,005
Mic drop.
1019
00:54:27,005 --> 00:54:30,464
When I went to
The Go-Go's concert in 1982,
1020
00:54:30,547 --> 00:54:33,214
as a young girl going
into a space
1021
00:54:33,297 --> 00:54:36,964
where women own the stage,
1022
00:54:37,047 --> 00:54:40,255
and own it unapologetically
1023
00:54:40,339 --> 00:54:42,756
like they were born to be there,
1024
00:54:42,839 --> 00:54:46,756
to me it represented a moment
of possibility.
1025
00:54:46,839 --> 00:54:48,172
Thanks, good night!
1026
00:54:53,089 --> 00:54:54,506
Thanks a lot!
1027
00:54:54,589 --> 00:54:57,255
These-- we're having a high
school reunion, you see.
1028
00:54:57,339 --> 00:54:59,422
I went to high school
with all these people.
1029
00:54:59,506 --> 00:55:00,756
Girls run up to us and say,
1030
00:55:00,839 --> 00:55:02,422
"We started a band
because of you!"
1031
00:55:02,506 --> 00:55:04,798
That's probably the best feeling
in the world,
1032
00:55:04,881 --> 00:55:07,464
it's really great
to think that you inspire people
1033
00:55:07,547 --> 00:55:08,673
to go out and start a band.
1034
00:55:08,756 --> 00:55:11,589
So, this is the dawning
of a new era, this is it.
1035
00:55:14,714 --> 00:55:17,089
Everybody has a different
perspective I'm sure
1036
00:55:17,172 --> 00:55:19,255
on what happened at
Saturday Night Live.
1037
00:55:19,339 --> 00:55:20,506
Oh, God.
1038
00:55:21,881 --> 00:55:24,297
We got there
11 in the morning,
1039
00:55:24,381 --> 00:55:27,130
and we had to wait
until 11 at night basically.
1040
00:55:27,214 --> 00:55:30,381
I think it was just a case of us
1041
00:55:30,464 --> 00:55:34,464
sitting around a TV studio
way too long,
1042
00:55:34,547 --> 00:55:36,881
and then, just starting to dip
into the booze.
1043
00:55:36,964 --> 00:55:39,881
Let's have a toast, champagne.
1044
00:55:39,964 --> 00:55:44,297
And then, oh, it's lunch time,
we'll have some wine.
1045
00:55:44,381 --> 00:55:46,172
So then, you want to balance
it out,
1046
00:55:46,255 --> 00:55:48,172
you want to lift things up
a little,
1047
00:55:48,255 --> 00:55:50,297
so magically the blow appears.
1048
00:55:50,381 --> 00:55:52,005
Right before we went on,
1049
00:55:52,089 --> 00:55:53,631
they said, "Remember, girls,
1050
00:55:53,714 --> 00:55:56,089
you're playing in front of 50
million people live."
1051
00:55:56,172 --> 00:55:58,130
And we were just like ...
1052
00:55:58,214 --> 00:56:00,130
♪ Yeah, we got it ♪
1053
00:56:00,214 --> 00:56:02,255
We were like cross-eyed drunk.
1054
00:56:05,589 --> 00:56:10,047
The funny thing is, the next day
we sold a ton of records.
1055
00:56:11,005 --> 00:56:13,422
Even buzzing, messed-up Go-Go's
1056
00:56:13,506 --> 00:56:15,631
being beamed into people's
living rooms,
1057
00:56:15,714 --> 00:56:18,047
it' still something that people
are just going,
1058
00:56:18,130 --> 00:56:19,089
"Whoa, we like this."
1059
00:56:22,214 --> 00:56:25,130
Now that we've had a little bit
of success and stuff
1060
00:56:25,214 --> 00:56:28,673
and now we know how wonderful
it can be, we want more.
1061
00:56:30,422 --> 00:56:32,089
The Rolling Stone cover
1062
00:56:32,172 --> 00:56:34,506
was supposed to be a comment
on sexism,
1063
00:56:34,589 --> 00:56:35,964
and obviously it backfired,
1064
00:56:36,047 --> 00:56:39,005
because if we had really been
trying to be sexy
1065
00:56:39,089 --> 00:56:40,839
and push our wares as women,
1066
00:56:40,923 --> 00:56:42,923
you know, we would have worn
sexy underwear
1067
00:56:43,005 --> 00:56:45,422
instead of, you know, Hanes
and Fruit of the Loom.
1068
00:56:45,506 --> 00:56:47,756
It's so tame,
but when it came out
1069
00:56:47,839 --> 00:56:51,172
it did not help that Rolling
Stone chose the headline:
1070
00:56:51,255 --> 00:56:53,422
"The Go-Go's Put Out."
1071
00:56:53,506 --> 00:56:56,130
"Ginger, you've gotta
call Rolling Stone.
1072
00:56:56,214 --> 00:56:57,339
We're not happy.
1073
00:56:57,422 --> 00:56:59,839
We don't like that they used
these pictures
1074
00:56:59,923 --> 00:57:02,089
on the front of the magazine."
1075
00:57:02,172 --> 00:57:03,506
So, I phoned
Rolling Stone
1076
00:57:03,589 --> 00:57:05,255
and asked for Jann
the publisher.
1077
00:57:05,339 --> 00:57:08,589
I said, "Jann, some of the girls
are very upset about the image
1078
00:57:08,673 --> 00:57:10,547
used on the front
of the magazine."
1079
00:57:10,631 --> 00:57:13,839
And there was a brief pause
and Jann said,
1080
00:57:13,923 --> 00:57:16,798
"I thought you were calling me
to thank me for the cover.
1081
00:57:16,881 --> 00:57:19,005
You girls need to grow up."
Clunk!
1082
00:57:19,089 --> 00:57:22,047
Maybe that's why we're not in
the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame,
1083
00:57:22,130 --> 00:57:24,464
those ungrateful wenches.
1084
00:57:26,798 --> 00:57:29,631
Our success was so quick,
1085
00:57:29,714 --> 00:57:32,381
and I always felt like a little
bit of an impostor
1086
00:57:32,464 --> 00:57:34,673
when it came to success,
like it was undeserved.
1087
00:57:34,756 --> 00:57:37,089
We asked them
why they are succeeding
1088
00:57:37,172 --> 00:57:38,756
where other girl groups
have failed.
1089
00:57:38,839 --> 00:57:41,673
The majority of the reason must
be because of the songs,
1090
00:57:41,756 --> 00:57:44,464
if people don't like your songs
they're not gonna wanna
1091
00:57:44,547 --> 00:57:46,297
come see you live,
or buy your records.
1092
00:57:46,381 --> 00:57:48,756
Whether you're a girl or
whatever you are.
1093
00:57:48,839 --> 00:57:52,255
I think that timing and luck,
there is an element of that.
1094
00:57:52,339 --> 00:57:55,923
I think luckily for us
there are now five....
1095
00:57:56,005 --> 00:58:01,756
women all in one band
who all have fear of failure.
1096
00:58:01,839 --> 00:58:03,005
Really.
1097
00:58:04,089 --> 00:58:06,464
I think everybody,
not just the band,
1098
00:58:06,547 --> 00:58:07,756
probably the record company,
1099
00:58:07,839 --> 00:58:10,255
was scrambling around to figure
out what to do next
1100
00:58:10,339 --> 00:58:11,756
on the back of such a big
success.
1101
00:58:11,839 --> 00:58:14,881
Putting out a second album made
sense to the record industry
1102
00:58:14,964 --> 00:58:18,255
because they want to make more
records and make more money.
1103
00:58:18,339 --> 00:58:22,255
And they're going to milk it
for everything that they can,
1104
00:58:22,339 --> 00:58:24,047
but at a price.
1105
00:58:24,130 --> 00:58:26,339
Do you have any time to
write songs now
1106
00:58:26,422 --> 00:58:28,339
with all the traveling
you're doing?
1107
00:58:28,422 --> 00:58:30,839
We've come,
right now we're starting,
1108
00:58:30,923 --> 00:58:33,506
this next month we're going
to work on new stuff.
1109
00:58:33,589 --> 00:58:35,756
What are you gonna
write about?
1110
00:58:35,839 --> 00:58:37,756
Well, I can't really say
1111
00:58:37,839 --> 00:58:40,798
what we're going to write
about, I don't know.
1112
00:58:40,881 --> 00:58:42,964
Vacation as a record,
1113
00:58:43,047 --> 00:58:47,881
we were so rushed that
the songwriting reflects that.
1114
00:58:48,881 --> 00:58:51,422
But I felt like, "Oh, my God,
I wrote a hit song
1115
00:58:51,506 --> 00:58:53,130
and now what do I do,"
you know?
1116
00:58:53,214 --> 00:58:56,130
It's like,
it messes with your head.
1117
00:58:56,214 --> 00:58:59,714
And, you know, you always hear
about the sophomore jinx.
1118
00:59:03,547 --> 00:59:06,798
I was freaking out because
we were scrambling for material
1119
00:59:06,881 --> 00:59:08,673
and then, luckily we got
"Vacation."
1120
00:59:08,756 --> 00:59:12,214
Kathy wrote "Vacation" and was
playing it in her previous band
1121
00:59:12,297 --> 00:59:14,631
to The Go-Go's, The Textones.
1122
00:59:17,047 --> 00:59:21,047
♪ I've thought a lot of things
about you ♪
1123
00:59:22,130 --> 00:59:26,339
♪ I've stayed awake just
thinking 'bout you ♪
1124
00:59:26,422 --> 00:59:27,964
I showed it to Charlotte,
1125
00:59:28,047 --> 00:59:29,756
she said,
"I really like this song,
1126
00:59:29,839 --> 00:59:31,881
I think, you know,
it needs more of a chorus."
1127
00:59:31,964 --> 00:59:36,964
♪ Tomorrow's a day of mine
that you won't be in ♪
1128
00:59:37,047 --> 00:59:40,547
I really felt like the original
version kind of went down,
1129
00:59:40,631 --> 00:59:42,506
and this, it just should have
gone up.
1130
00:59:42,589 --> 00:59:45,339
♪ Vacation, all I ever wanted ♪
1131
00:59:45,422 --> 00:59:48,255
♪ A vacation,
had to get away ♪
1132
00:59:48,339 --> 00:59:50,881
If we hadn't had that song
on the record,
1133
00:59:50,964 --> 00:59:53,839
it would have been a very
different outcome for us.
1134
00:59:53,923 --> 00:59:56,673
That probably would've ended
everything right there,
1135
00:59:56,756 --> 00:59:58,381
'cause that song
was really cool.
1136
00:59:58,464 --> 00:59:59,923
♪ Had to get away ♪
1137
01:00:00,005 --> 01:00:02,839
♪ Vacation,
meant to be spent alone ♪
1138
01:00:02,923 --> 01:00:05,923
Who knew that the girls were
such able water skiers?
1139
01:00:06,005 --> 01:00:10,589
At the video shoot,
they started wandering off
1140
01:00:10,673 --> 01:00:13,089
wearing their little
water ski tutus
1141
01:00:13,172 --> 01:00:15,589
and started walking up
La Brea Avenue.
1142
01:00:15,673 --> 01:00:18,756
I followed them
and started snapping away.
1143
01:00:19,589 --> 01:00:21,756
They just looked like
four ballerinas
1144
01:00:21,839 --> 01:00:24,631
between takes on a movie set
or something.
1145
01:00:27,547 --> 01:00:30,839
"Vacation" soon hit
the radio waves
1146
01:00:30,923 --> 01:00:34,839
and did really, really well
and got lots of play.
1147
01:00:34,964 --> 01:00:38,130
But it stalled in the charts.
1148
01:00:38,214 --> 01:00:42,047
Are you still getting along?
1149
01:00:42,130 --> 01:00:46,214
Yeah, we're getting along really
good, as a matter of fact.
1150
01:00:46,297 --> 01:00:48,297
I mean, but this is
the beginning of tour,
1151
01:00:48,381 --> 01:00:50,172
so we'll see how it is
the last week.
1152
01:00:50,255 --> 01:00:51,297
No, we'll get along,
1153
01:00:51,381 --> 01:00:54,089
we always have got along pretty
good I'd say.
1154
01:00:55,589 --> 01:00:56,547
Show time!
1155
01:00:56,631 --> 01:01:00,089
♪ It's everything
but party time ♪
1156
01:01:00,172 --> 01:01:04,255
♪ It's everything but
party time... ♪
1157
01:01:04,339 --> 01:01:06,798
I mean, this was like
a fucking treadmill.
1158
01:01:06,881 --> 01:01:10,422
They were pushing us constantly.
We were on tour constantly.
1159
01:01:12,381 --> 01:01:14,547
You would be
absolutely exhausted
1160
01:01:14,631 --> 01:01:18,464
and arrive from some long
transatlantic flight,
1161
01:01:18,547 --> 01:01:21,381
and the promoter
for an upcoming show
1162
01:01:21,464 --> 01:01:23,631
was reaching out to you
in panic saying,
1163
01:01:23,714 --> 01:01:25,964
"We need the girls to do this,
this, this and this."
1164
01:01:26,047 --> 01:01:28,631
This has been
an incredible year.
1165
01:01:28,714 --> 01:01:30,547
The success,
how's it affected your life
1166
01:01:30,631 --> 01:01:32,130
at this stage of the ball game?
1167
01:01:32,214 --> 01:01:34,756
We're aware of
how well we're doing
1168
01:01:34,839 --> 01:01:36,714
but we don't feel it, yeah,
not yet.
1169
01:01:36,798 --> 01:01:39,881
Just too much overload
on the brain right now.
1170
01:01:41,381 --> 01:01:43,464
My life has been
planned out for me
1171
01:01:43,547 --> 01:01:45,339
for the next two years.
1172
01:01:45,422 --> 01:01:46,714
I can tell you my schedule
1173
01:01:46,798 --> 01:01:49,422
until September of next year
practically.
1174
01:01:51,923 --> 01:01:54,506
When you go
from nowhere to number one,
1175
01:01:54,589 --> 01:01:57,714
things change, it's inevitable.
1176
01:01:59,422 --> 01:02:02,047
The old joke is, you know,
when you're a new manager
1177
01:02:02,130 --> 01:02:03,631
and you knew what you were doing
1178
01:02:03,714 --> 01:02:06,547
and you're signing a new band,
you're God.
1179
01:02:06,631 --> 01:02:09,130
The day they're number one,
you're the janitor.
1180
01:02:09,214 --> 01:02:12,047
♪ Can't seem to get my mind
off of you ♪
1181
01:02:12,130 --> 01:02:15,089
What's the worst
thing about being a manager?
1182
01:02:17,297 --> 01:02:19,422
When they don't want you
anymore.
1183
01:02:21,923 --> 01:02:26,839
I think the band just
got too big for her to handle.
1184
01:02:26,923 --> 01:02:30,589
We wanted to make
the most of the time
1185
01:02:30,673 --> 01:02:32,047
that we had in the spotlight.
1186
01:02:32,130 --> 01:02:35,631
We wanted to make money
and continue to be successful,
1187
01:02:35,714 --> 01:02:38,589
and we felt like we needed...
1188
01:02:38,673 --> 01:02:41,673
a more experienced person
at the helm.
1189
01:02:42,673 --> 01:02:44,881
It was surprising how quickly
1190
01:02:44,964 --> 01:02:47,798
people came out of the woodwork,
other managers,
1191
01:02:47,881 --> 01:02:49,923
saying how they could do
so much better
1192
01:02:50,005 --> 01:02:53,047
if they had a big management
team behind them.
1193
01:02:54,714 --> 01:02:56,381
I'm pretty sure that she knew
1194
01:02:56,464 --> 01:02:59,422
we wanted her to work
with a bigger manager
1195
01:02:59,506 --> 01:03:02,673
that had a firm
instead of like one person.
1196
01:03:02,756 --> 01:03:05,339
I'm getting kind of choked up,
my throat.
1197
01:03:05,422 --> 01:03:06,923
It's like...
1198
01:03:07,005 --> 01:03:09,631
No, no, it's just that
it's emotional for me,
1199
01:03:09,714 --> 01:03:11,047
because going back to that time
1200
01:03:11,130 --> 01:03:14,506
it was difficult, remembering it
and how I felt.
1201
01:03:17,130 --> 01:03:18,839
It was very painful.
1202
01:03:18,923 --> 01:03:21,089
My band was taken away from me.
1203
01:03:21,172 --> 01:03:23,047
I remember sitting in
on meetings
1204
01:03:23,130 --> 01:03:25,881
and feeling incredibly little
1205
01:03:25,964 --> 01:03:27,923
as the girls sat
on the edge of their seat
1206
01:03:28,005 --> 01:03:31,381
looking enthralled
by these new managers,
1207
01:03:31,464 --> 01:03:33,089
all men,
not that that mattered,
1208
01:03:33,172 --> 01:03:35,297
but just like a new power base,
1209
01:03:35,381 --> 01:03:37,047
like this was going
to be great,
1210
01:03:37,130 --> 01:03:39,923
that this was going to be,
like, change everything.
1211
01:03:40,005 --> 01:03:42,798
It was horrible having them say
with the band there,
1212
01:03:42,881 --> 01:03:45,923
"Well, Ginger, we know you know
how to take a band from A to B,
1213
01:03:46,005 --> 01:03:47,381
and you do a great job.
1214
01:03:47,464 --> 01:03:50,214
We can take that band
from B to Z."
1215
01:03:50,297 --> 01:03:55,172
We felt like it was going
to help us go to another level.
1216
01:03:55,255 --> 01:03:56,839
People that set all of it
in motion,
1217
01:03:56,923 --> 01:03:59,047
they knew that my days
would be numbered,
1218
01:03:59,130 --> 01:04:01,005
that anyone with any integrity,
1219
01:04:01,089 --> 01:04:04,089
you're not going to stick
around. Why would you?
1220
01:04:04,172 --> 01:04:07,547
I guess we hurt her,
must have hurt her pretty badly
1221
01:04:07,631 --> 01:04:11,422
because she just,
one day she was gone.
1222
01:04:11,506 --> 01:04:14,255
It was no "fuck you" or nothing,
it was just gone.
1223
01:04:14,339 --> 01:04:17,130
How angry were you?
1224
01:04:17,214 --> 01:04:19,130
Angry enough to move
to New York?
1225
01:04:21,631 --> 01:04:24,756
She was like the sixth Go-Go.
1226
01:04:24,839 --> 01:04:29,798
When she left, it really turned
into a big business.
1227
01:04:29,881 --> 01:04:32,172
It wasn't even that much fun
anymore.
1228
01:04:32,255 --> 01:04:35,422
We just, that's all we knew
how to do was be a Go-Go.
1229
01:04:38,047 --> 01:04:40,130
Gina was in our new
manager's office,
1230
01:04:40,214 --> 01:04:42,964
supposedly a more professional
management company
1231
01:04:43,047 --> 01:04:44,172
who turned out to suck,
1232
01:04:44,255 --> 01:04:46,756
we should've just stuck
with Ginger.
1233
01:04:46,839 --> 01:04:50,839
But, I guess Gina saw a check
that Charlotte got
1234
01:04:50,923 --> 01:04:53,214
and it was for, like,
a gazillion dollars.
1235
01:04:53,297 --> 01:04:56,005
And of course, Gina wasn't
getting a check like that.
1236
01:04:56,089 --> 01:04:57,756
I almost fell over.
1237
01:04:57,839 --> 01:05:00,839
He said,
"See how much she makes?
1238
01:05:00,923 --> 01:05:03,631
That's 'cause she's
a songwriter."
1239
01:05:03,714 --> 01:05:06,506
There are two ways
you make money out of a record.
1240
01:05:06,589 --> 01:05:08,881
You make it in the recording
and the publishing.
1241
01:05:08,964 --> 01:05:10,673
The person who writes
the songs,
1242
01:05:10,756 --> 01:05:14,673
which is really
the vehicle that you need...
1243
01:05:14,756 --> 01:05:16,506
is going to make more money.
1244
01:05:16,589 --> 01:05:18,506
And that can cause problems.
1245
01:05:18,589 --> 01:05:20,297
You write a lot
of the songs, right?
1246
01:05:20,381 --> 01:05:21,464
-Yeah.
-With Charlotte?
1247
01:05:21,547 --> 01:05:23,714
Charlotte writing
"We Got The Beat"
1248
01:05:23,798 --> 01:05:25,214
all by herself,
that song was huge.
1249
01:05:25,297 --> 01:05:28,214
It's like everyone wanted it for
commercials and movies
1250
01:05:28,297 --> 01:05:29,631
and TV shows, and that's like
1251
01:05:29,714 --> 01:05:32,047
cha-ching, cha-ching,
cha-ching, cha-ching.
1252
01:05:32,130 --> 01:05:35,047
Songwriting was so important
to me, it was my identity.
1253
01:05:35,130 --> 01:05:38,172
That's why I held so close,
so dear to me
1254
01:05:38,255 --> 01:05:41,047
and, you know, you can't, you
can't take any part of this.
1255
01:05:41,130 --> 01:05:44,047
This is mine, this is who I am.
1256
01:05:44,130 --> 01:05:46,923
I will still stand behind
the belief that songwriting
1257
01:05:47,005 --> 01:05:49,881
is a really specific skill
that many people don't have,
1258
01:05:49,964 --> 01:05:51,422
and it's a lot of extra
hard work
1259
01:05:51,506 --> 01:05:53,172
that other people aren't doing.
1260
01:05:55,130 --> 01:05:57,047
I'd made more money
1261
01:05:57,130 --> 01:06:00,005
than I'd ever imagined
in my lifetime,
1262
01:06:00,089 --> 01:06:03,964
but I knew there was going to be
an issue in the discrepancy
1263
01:06:04,047 --> 01:06:07,130
between the highest earner,
who was Charlotte,
1264
01:06:07,214 --> 01:06:10,798
and the lowest earner,
who was Gina and Belinda.
1265
01:06:10,881 --> 01:06:12,631
I knew there was gonna be
a problem.
1266
01:06:12,714 --> 01:06:15,506
Most people think that we're
really rich right now,
1267
01:06:15,589 --> 01:06:18,339
but I don't...
1268
01:06:18,422 --> 01:06:21,255
I know that we're
not rich right now!
1269
01:06:21,339 --> 01:06:24,047
I was too busy
having a lot of fun,
1270
01:06:24,130 --> 01:06:27,255
and I just let the others
write the songs.
1271
01:06:27,339 --> 01:06:29,923
Gina would say to me,
"This is not fair,"
1272
01:06:30,005 --> 01:06:34,339
and, you know, and I would say,
"I know it's not fair,"
1273
01:06:34,422 --> 01:06:36,923
but I felt like inside
1274
01:06:37,005 --> 01:06:39,089
like I really had no right
to say anything
1275
01:06:39,172 --> 01:06:41,172
because I was such a fuck-up.
1276
01:06:43,172 --> 01:06:46,589
What scared me was
an unhappy lead singer,
1277
01:06:46,673 --> 01:06:50,047
who pretty much made the band
into contenders,
1278
01:06:50,130 --> 01:06:53,964
feeling cheated
and unappreciated.
1279
01:06:54,047 --> 01:06:55,964
It set up a vibe
1280
01:06:56,047 --> 01:07:00,547
where I started feeling very
concerned about our future.
1281
01:07:02,589 --> 01:07:05,172
And it's like,
are you fucking kidding me?
1282
01:07:05,255 --> 01:07:08,964
Now, we're already having this
be a problem?
1283
01:07:09,047 --> 01:07:11,172
The fighting
and the real drugs
1284
01:07:11,255 --> 01:07:15,881
happen when we all get money,
you know.
1285
01:07:15,964 --> 01:07:17,923
It wrecks everything.
1286
01:07:19,839 --> 01:07:24,547
♪ Walking around it's clear
that I'm worlds away ♪
1287
01:07:24,631 --> 01:07:28,631
Charlotte was isolating
quite a bit.
1288
01:07:28,714 --> 01:07:30,589
I spend a lot of time here.
1289
01:07:30,673 --> 01:07:31,881
I don't go out that often,
1290
01:07:32,005 --> 01:07:34,297
because I like it here a lot
in my house.
1291
01:07:34,381 --> 01:07:38,339
I bought a house up in the hills
and I was by myself.
1292
01:07:38,422 --> 01:07:40,673
It was a bad situation.
1293
01:07:40,756 --> 01:07:43,089
I was suffering,
1294
01:07:43,172 --> 01:07:46,798
and I didn't know who to talk
to or what to do.
1295
01:07:46,881 --> 01:07:48,798
No, we're just like sisters
1296
01:07:48,881 --> 01:07:51,756
and we're all looking out for,
you know,
1297
01:07:51,839 --> 01:07:54,339
each other all the time,
1298
01:07:54,422 --> 01:07:57,172
and we all love each other
very much.
1299
01:07:58,255 --> 01:08:01,172
We didn't communicate,
and then when we did communicate
1300
01:08:01,255 --> 01:08:03,881
we didn't do it in a loving,
sort of respectful way.
1301
01:08:03,964 --> 01:08:08,422
By 1984, things were
getting pretty frazzled with us.
1302
01:08:08,506 --> 01:08:12,798
We'd still really never had been
given enough time to write
1303
01:08:12,881 --> 01:08:14,381
or recuperate or anything.
1304
01:08:14,464 --> 01:08:16,339
So, it was very tense.
1305
01:08:16,422 --> 01:08:20,047
Being in a band, you
become each other's best friends
1306
01:08:20,130 --> 01:08:22,381
and also each other's
worst enemies.
1307
01:08:23,464 --> 01:08:26,881
It became a difficult
place to be
1308
01:08:26,964 --> 01:08:29,381
because I always wanted
to put out fires.
1309
01:08:30,631 --> 01:08:34,297
Somebody's not happy, you know,
fix this, fix, fix, fix,
1310
01:08:34,381 --> 01:08:37,255
you know, and have fun.
1311
01:08:37,339 --> 01:08:39,756
No matter how miserable
everyone is, have fun.
1312
01:08:47,464 --> 01:08:49,881
This is when we first
got to England,
1313
01:08:49,964 --> 01:08:51,756
making the third record.
1314
01:08:51,839 --> 01:08:54,631
And this was the clown family.
1315
01:08:54,714 --> 01:08:57,339
We had something called
the clown family
1316
01:08:57,422 --> 01:09:00,673
where everybody posed the same
way and put on a clown nose.
1317
01:09:01,881 --> 01:09:04,673
This is the clown family
watching TV.
1318
01:09:08,339 --> 01:09:11,923
And here's the clown family
doing some blow,
1319
01:09:12,005 --> 01:09:14,422
upon arrival in London.
1320
01:09:20,631 --> 01:09:24,255
The ultimate is the clown family
giving birth to another clown.
1321
01:09:24,339 --> 01:09:27,923
Except Jane was the other clown.
1322
01:09:28,005 --> 01:09:30,339
Every single person
birthed Jane.
1323
01:09:32,089 --> 01:09:35,381
♪ Like an old movie backdrop ♪
1324
01:09:37,422 --> 01:09:40,214
♪ The radio's blasting ♪
1325
01:09:40,297 --> 01:09:42,839
We still managed to have a lot
of fun,
1326
01:09:42,923 --> 01:09:45,464
despite what might have
been going on.
1327
01:09:45,547 --> 01:09:50,297
♪ She says "I just wanted
to make you" ♪
1328
01:09:50,381 --> 01:09:54,714
♪ "I never meant to break you"
1329
01:09:54,798 --> 01:09:58,547
♪ He says "Have some mercy
on me" ♪
1330
01:10:01,297 --> 01:10:06,130
♪ "Do you have to be
such a mercenary?" ♪
1331
01:10:10,798 --> 01:10:12,172
I went into the studio
1332
01:10:12,255 --> 01:10:14,422
when they were recording
the third album.
1333
01:10:14,506 --> 01:10:17,297
There was a famous scene of one
of the members vomiting on me,
1334
01:10:17,381 --> 01:10:19,506
you know,
she'd had too much to drink.
1335
01:10:19,589 --> 01:10:21,172
I won't mention who,
1336
01:10:21,255 --> 01:10:24,339
but I was covered in vomit
in the studio.
1337
01:10:24,422 --> 01:10:26,089
So, I knew stuff was going on.
1338
01:10:26,172 --> 01:10:28,381
Good evening,
I'm Charlotte.
1339
01:10:28,464 --> 01:10:31,339
-Good evening, I'm Gina.
-Good evening, I'm Jane.
1340
01:10:31,422 --> 01:10:33,255
-I'm Kathy.
-Good evening, I'm Belinda,
1341
01:10:33,339 --> 01:10:36,005
-I'm The Go-Go's.
-She's not! No, I'm The Go-Go's.
1342
01:10:36,089 --> 01:10:38,506
-I'm The Go-Go's.
-No, we're all The Go-Go's.
1343
01:10:38,589 --> 01:10:40,422
Well, anyway...
1344
01:10:40,506 --> 01:10:43,756
We'd started writing
songs for the third record,
1345
01:10:43,839 --> 01:10:48,089
but Charlotte hit
a bit of a writing block.
1346
01:10:48,172 --> 01:10:52,089
It got harder to write,
actually, it prevented me.
1347
01:10:52,172 --> 01:10:53,631
I was really writing a lot,
1348
01:10:53,714 --> 01:10:57,589
because Charlotte was in a lot
of trouble with the drugs.
1349
01:10:57,673 --> 01:11:02,214
♪ When it goes dark,
forget the night ♪
1350
01:11:03,339 --> 01:11:06,589
There are people that really
loved that album,
1351
01:11:06,673 --> 01:11:08,714
but I can't even listen to it
1352
01:11:08,798 --> 01:11:13,464
because to me I was so miserable
during that time, oh, my God.
1353
01:11:14,506 --> 01:11:17,130
♪ When it goes dark ♪
1354
01:11:17,214 --> 01:11:19,339
♪ Get me to bed ♪
1355
01:11:19,422 --> 01:11:22,047
On that trip,
there was an implosion.
1356
01:11:22,130 --> 01:11:23,631
Jane got really upset.
1357
01:11:23,714 --> 01:11:26,214
♪ Wait for the light of day ♪
1358
01:11:26,297 --> 01:11:28,964
I think she felt frustrated
probably with me
1359
01:11:29,047 --> 01:11:31,172
and with wanting to have
a bigger role.
1360
01:11:31,255 --> 01:11:32,923
♪ I'm the only one you run to ♪
1361
01:11:33,005 --> 01:11:34,798
♪ The one you come to ♪
1362
01:11:34,881 --> 01:11:36,589
♪ The only one you can get to ♪
1363
01:11:36,673 --> 01:11:39,089
♪ I'm the only one for you ♪
1364
01:11:39,172 --> 01:11:41,964
-♪ I'm the only one ♪
-♪ Only one for you ♪
1365
01:11:42,047 --> 01:11:45,422
-♪ I'm the only one ♪
-♪ Only one for you ♪
1366
01:11:45,506 --> 01:11:48,589
-♪ I'm the only one ♪
-♪ Only one for you ♪
1367
01:11:48,673 --> 01:11:50,214
♪ I'm the only one ♪
1368
01:11:50,297 --> 01:11:52,089
When we were recording
the album,
1369
01:11:52,172 --> 01:11:55,089
I had decided that I wanted
to sing one song on the record,
1370
01:11:55,172 --> 01:11:56,923
and there was one song
that I'd written
1371
01:11:57,005 --> 01:11:59,839
that was super personal to me
called "Forget That Day."
1372
01:11:59,923 --> 01:12:01,756
Then, I went to each girl
and was like,
1373
01:12:01,839 --> 01:12:03,923
"Please,
can I sing this one song?"
1374
01:12:04,005 --> 01:12:07,214
♪ I remember that day ♪
1375
01:12:07,297 --> 01:12:10,756
♪ Wind pushing birds around ♪
1376
01:12:10,839 --> 01:12:14,714
She came to us
and we just said, "No."
1377
01:12:14,798 --> 01:12:18,214
Belinda was the lead singer,
it just felt weird.
1378
01:12:18,297 --> 01:12:20,923
We decided that
that wasn't the way to go,
1379
01:12:21,005 --> 01:12:24,464
that we wanted to keep everybody
had their role within the band,
1380
01:12:24,547 --> 01:12:26,297
and that was the way
it was going to be.
1381
01:12:26,381 --> 01:12:28,005
I don't really like to talk
about that,
1382
01:12:28,089 --> 01:12:32,464
because it wasn't like a
unanimous thing in this band.
1383
01:12:32,547 --> 01:12:33,964
One of them said,
1384
01:12:34,047 --> 01:12:36,964
"What makes you think you're
good enough to sing a song?"
1385
01:12:37,047 --> 01:12:40,047
Which is something I'll never
forget hearing.
1386
01:12:40,130 --> 01:12:41,798
It was a huge betrayal,
1387
01:12:41,881 --> 01:12:44,464
and I did not know how to get
past it.
1388
01:12:44,547 --> 01:12:46,422
♪ I lost my heart ♪
1389
01:12:46,506 --> 01:12:50,172
♪ But I just said
I hate heights ♪
1390
01:12:50,255 --> 01:12:52,089
It never occurred to any of us
1391
01:12:52,172 --> 01:12:55,756
that we have to sit down
and how can we make this work?
1392
01:12:56,798 --> 01:13:00,172
But, no, nothing could change,
nobody could grow.
1393
01:13:00,255 --> 01:13:01,964
And I was part of it, too.
1394
01:13:02,047 --> 01:13:04,464
♪ I left to get
some work done ♪
1395
01:13:04,547 --> 01:13:09,339
We made Belinda feel guilty
for being a star and a diva.
1396
01:13:11,923 --> 01:13:16,673
We made Jane feel like what
she wanted and needed
1397
01:13:16,756 --> 01:13:20,172
was not important enough for us
to even sit down and talk about.
1398
01:13:21,506 --> 01:13:24,798
We made Gina feel like what she
contributed wasn't enough.
1399
01:13:24,881 --> 01:13:27,172
You don't deserve to make
as much.
1400
01:13:27,255 --> 01:13:30,172
♪ Why'd you say you love me ♪
1401
01:13:30,255 --> 01:13:32,756
And we couldn't see the pain
1402
01:13:32,839 --> 01:13:36,214
that Charlotte was walking
around in.
1403
01:13:36,297 --> 01:13:38,589
♪ Try to forget that day ♪
1404
01:13:46,381 --> 01:13:48,214
I was always an optimist
1405
01:13:48,297 --> 01:13:51,297
hoping that we would keep
the things together.
1406
01:13:51,381 --> 01:13:54,547
I don't know that they
recognized then,
1407
01:13:54,631 --> 01:13:58,172
and after the third album,
what they really had together.
1408
01:13:59,714 --> 01:14:02,381
♪ Head over heels,
where should I go ♪
1409
01:14:02,464 --> 01:14:04,798
"Head Over Heels",
we made a video,
1410
01:14:04,881 --> 01:14:07,881
it got released as a single.
1411
01:14:07,964 --> 01:14:10,589
The tour machine's picking up.
1412
01:14:10,673 --> 01:14:12,714
♪ ...out of sync ♪
1413
01:14:16,589 --> 01:14:18,881
We were getting ready to tour
for the third record.
1414
01:14:18,964 --> 01:14:20,798
We were at rehearsal
and a call came in,
1415
01:14:20,881 --> 01:14:23,214
it was like, "Gina,
your doctor's on the phone."
1416
01:14:23,297 --> 01:14:25,839
I was like... We all sort of
stopped, like, what is this?
1417
01:14:25,923 --> 01:14:29,172
Gina had always been like coming
off stage, "I can't breathe,"
1418
01:14:29,255 --> 01:14:31,798
and we'd be like, "Oh, my God,
she's such a drama queen,"
1419
01:14:31,881 --> 01:14:35,923
like, no, absolutely like no
sympathy whatsoever for her.
1420
01:14:36,005 --> 01:14:37,255
Now what?
1421
01:14:37,339 --> 01:14:41,422
Because she has been seeing
this doctor and that doctor
1422
01:14:41,506 --> 01:14:43,381
and we're just like,
"Oh, come on."
1423
01:14:43,464 --> 01:14:45,339
But as it turns out she couldn't
breathe
1424
01:14:45,422 --> 01:14:46,798
because she had a hole
in her heart
1425
01:14:46,881 --> 01:14:49,756
and she wasn't getting enough
oxygen. Yeah, so... our bad.
1426
01:14:49,839 --> 01:14:52,172
Gina was diagnosed with a hole
in her heart.
1427
01:14:52,255 --> 01:14:53,798
She was going to have surgery.
1428
01:14:53,881 --> 01:14:55,464
Heart surgery, what the fuck?
1429
01:14:55,547 --> 01:14:56,631
It was a little scary,
1430
01:14:56,714 --> 01:14:59,130
but we dealt with it
with a lot of, like, humor.
1431
01:14:59,214 --> 01:15:01,714
Our humor was, you know,
1432
01:15:01,798 --> 01:15:04,673
always gallows dark.
1433
01:15:04,756 --> 01:15:07,923
So, we decided to have
this final lost weekend
1434
01:15:08,005 --> 01:15:11,130
in Palm Springs together
just in case Gina croaked.
1435
01:15:11,214 --> 01:15:13,631
They were taking me out
on my last hurrah.
1436
01:15:16,923 --> 01:15:20,798
We rented I think a convertible
Jag and a convertible Cadillac.
1437
01:15:20,881 --> 01:15:24,631
Let's buy a bunch of drugs
and go out to the desert.
1438
01:15:24,714 --> 01:15:26,964
We had just like
a shit ton of drugs
1439
01:15:27,047 --> 01:15:29,589
and we're driving
into Palm Springs
1440
01:15:29,673 --> 01:15:31,047
going 100 miles an hour.
1441
01:15:35,214 --> 01:15:37,255
It was a total weekend
of debauchery
1442
01:15:37,339 --> 01:15:41,297
and drugs and drinking.
1443
01:15:41,381 --> 01:15:44,297
♪ Sex ♪
1444
01:15:46,964 --> 01:15:48,631
And we had a special rule
1445
01:15:48,714 --> 01:15:50,631
that Gina was not allowed
to do cocaine,
1446
01:15:50,714 --> 01:15:53,047
she can only do booze,
Valium and mushrooms,
1447
01:15:53,130 --> 01:15:54,798
so you know,
we were keeping her safe!
1448
01:15:54,881 --> 01:15:58,047
Because they didn't want me
to have a heart attack.
1449
01:16:10,506 --> 01:16:13,506
It did bring the band
together temporarily.
1450
01:16:13,589 --> 01:16:16,756
It's funny how you can
feel so isolated
1451
01:16:16,839 --> 01:16:18,839
from people in the band,
1452
01:16:18,923 --> 01:16:22,923
and then in a minute, in a
second, you're family again.
1453
01:16:24,005 --> 01:16:26,798
We were really at odds,
and when I had that surgery
1454
01:16:26,881 --> 01:16:30,547
everybody sort of came together
for a while there.
1455
01:16:30,631 --> 01:16:33,005
We've gotten a lot of
calls and letters
1456
01:16:33,089 --> 01:16:34,714
and your fans are real
concerned.
1457
01:16:34,798 --> 01:16:37,255
If you could just give us
an update on your health?
1458
01:16:37,339 --> 01:16:38,631
I'm fine.
My heart is better.
1459
01:16:38,714 --> 01:16:40,673
My doctor told me I can do
anything I like.
1460
01:16:40,756 --> 01:16:44,089
I can't wait to get out on tour
because I'm bored to death.
1461
01:16:45,881 --> 01:16:48,047
Well, I do want
to talk about the tour.
1462
01:16:48,130 --> 01:16:50,714
What kind of tour sponsorship
are you considering?
1463
01:16:50,798 --> 01:16:53,255
Before the album was
released, that's kind of
1464
01:16:53,339 --> 01:16:55,964
when the publishing thing
really came to a head.
1465
01:16:56,047 --> 01:16:57,381
We were called to a meeting
1466
01:16:57,464 --> 01:16:59,506
at the crappy management's
office,
1467
01:16:59,589 --> 01:17:03,214
and it was stated all
the publishing
1468
01:17:03,297 --> 01:17:04,673
needs to be split equally.
1469
01:17:04,756 --> 01:17:07,381
And then, I said,
"Well, wait a minute,
1470
01:17:07,464 --> 01:17:09,381
"this album is totally done.
1471
01:17:09,464 --> 01:17:12,422
"I totally agree to do that
for the next album,
1472
01:17:12,506 --> 01:17:14,214
"but I'm not doing it
for this album,
1473
01:17:14,297 --> 01:17:16,089
because I fucking worked
my ass off."
1474
01:17:16,172 --> 01:17:18,422
And they're like,
"Nope, you gotta do it."
1475
01:17:18,506 --> 01:17:19,547
I'm like, "I won't do it."
1476
01:17:19,631 --> 01:17:21,381
"You've gotta do it."
"I won't do it."
1477
01:17:21,464 --> 01:17:23,506
And then, I just said,
"Fuck you, I quit."
1478
01:17:23,589 --> 01:17:25,214
And that's when I quit
the band.
1479
01:17:26,255 --> 01:17:28,881
But, of course,
I couldn't leave the band yet
1480
01:17:28,964 --> 01:17:31,255
because we had a whole,
huge tour planned
1481
01:17:31,339 --> 01:17:32,631
to support the new album.
1482
01:17:32,714 --> 01:17:34,923
She told us that she was, after
the tour for
1483
01:17:35,005 --> 01:17:36,798
Talk Show
she was going to leave.
1484
01:17:36,881 --> 01:17:40,422
You guys have been
together now for quite a while.
1485
01:17:40,506 --> 01:17:43,756
Do you still all just get along
as friends?
1486
01:17:43,839 --> 01:17:45,631
Argh!
1487
01:17:45,714 --> 01:17:47,422
There would be a lot
of questions
1488
01:17:47,506 --> 01:17:50,255
about what our relationship
with each other was like.
1489
01:17:50,339 --> 01:17:53,214
"Oh, we love each other.
We're like sisters."
1490
01:17:53,297 --> 01:17:56,589
Yeah, like sisters that fucking
stab each other in the back.
1491
01:18:07,756 --> 01:18:09,798
It was a little toxic,
shall we say.
1492
01:18:11,005 --> 01:18:13,089
♪ But I know
what you're doing ♪
1493
01:18:13,172 --> 01:18:16,381
But the machine, Go-Go machine,
had to keep going.
1494
01:18:16,464 --> 01:18:18,923
♪ Falling to ruin ♪
1495
01:18:19,005 --> 01:18:21,589
♪ You got your walls so high ♪
1496
01:18:21,673 --> 01:18:24,089
Things were really coming apart.
1497
01:18:24,172 --> 01:18:27,297
♪ There may be some
explanation ♪
1498
01:18:27,381 --> 01:18:31,130
This band is everything to me.
1499
01:18:31,214 --> 01:18:36,255
My driving focus was to keep
that shit together.
1500
01:18:36,339 --> 01:18:39,047
♪ I just want to turn to you ♪
1501
01:18:39,130 --> 01:18:41,214
-♪ Come on let me turn to you ♪
-♪ Turn to you ♪
1502
01:18:41,297 --> 01:18:42,881
♪ Turn to you ♪
1503
01:18:42,964 --> 01:18:45,923
There was a lot
of crap going on,
1504
01:18:46,005 --> 01:18:50,673
and it felt like the dream
of The Go-Go's was slipping away
1505
01:18:50,756 --> 01:18:54,464
and, of course, I more so felt
like my life was slipping away.
1506
01:18:56,547 --> 01:18:58,923
♪ It has a lot to do ♪
1507
01:18:59,005 --> 01:19:00,839
There were definitely times
1508
01:19:00,923 --> 01:19:04,673
when you really had to fake it
to get through it.
1509
01:19:04,756 --> 01:19:07,881
We had this whole thing
that we called robo Go-Go-ing,
1510
01:19:07,964 --> 01:19:10,589
where you would just get out
there on stage
1511
01:19:10,673 --> 01:19:12,422
and no one would fucking know
1512
01:19:12,506 --> 01:19:14,964
that you had just had
a screaming fight backstage.
1513
01:19:15,047 --> 01:19:18,339
You would just get out there
and be like, robo Go-Go!
1514
01:19:18,422 --> 01:19:21,255
♪ I want to turn to you ♪
1515
01:19:21,339 --> 01:19:23,881
♪ Come on,
let me turn to you ♪
1516
01:19:23,964 --> 01:19:25,964
♪ Please let me turn to you ♪
1517
01:19:26,047 --> 01:19:27,422
During the tour,
1518
01:19:27,506 --> 01:19:30,381
Jane announced that she was
leaving, which I didn't believe.
1519
01:19:30,464 --> 01:19:34,381
And then, sure enough she did
and it was really devastating.
1520
01:19:36,673 --> 01:19:38,714
I felt completely betrayed.
1521
01:19:38,798 --> 01:19:40,422
I felt like...
1522
01:19:40,506 --> 01:19:44,005
she was breaking up something
that was so precious.
1523
01:19:44,089 --> 01:19:46,214
We knew we were in trouble then,
1524
01:19:46,297 --> 01:19:49,089
because, I mean,
she's an original member,
1525
01:19:49,172 --> 01:19:51,714
she's a key songwriter,
and she's irreplaceable.
1526
01:19:51,798 --> 01:19:53,839
It was like a hatchet had come
and just...
1527
01:19:53,923 --> 01:19:56,130
it was never going to be
the same after that.
1528
01:19:56,214 --> 01:19:59,798
That was it, really, a piece
of the puzzle was missing.
1529
01:20:02,089 --> 01:20:06,547
I felt like the rat that had,
you know, left the sinking ship.
1530
01:20:08,047 --> 01:20:12,047
The Go-Go's as a unit worked.
1531
01:20:12,130 --> 01:20:15,255
And you take out a piece,
is the picture complete?
1532
01:20:16,631 --> 01:20:17,881
Maybe not.
1533
01:20:19,964 --> 01:20:23,589
I just thought this
could be the end of everything.
1534
01:20:23,673 --> 01:20:27,464
All I was, I was a Go-Go,
that was all.
1535
01:20:27,547 --> 01:20:31,589
That meant I could take care
of my mom.
1536
01:20:31,673 --> 01:20:34,422
By this time,
I'm supporting my mom.
1537
01:20:34,506 --> 01:20:36,631
It's easier to find
a bass player
1538
01:20:36,714 --> 01:20:38,255
than it is a guitar player.
1539
01:20:38,339 --> 01:20:40,506
I'll play guitar,
we'll get a bass player.
1540
01:20:40,589 --> 01:20:43,047
Hundreds of girls wanted to be
in The Go-Go's.
1541
01:20:43,130 --> 01:20:44,714
Big surprise.
1542
01:20:46,047 --> 01:20:48,547
I really wanted Paula Jean,
1543
01:20:48,631 --> 01:20:51,297
and the other girls weren't
really agreeing with me,
1544
01:20:51,381 --> 01:20:53,214
but for some reason
they acquiesced,
1545
01:20:53,297 --> 01:20:56,047
and Paula Jean became
our bass player.
1546
01:20:57,297 --> 01:20:59,964
I felt like Dorothy
walking into Oz,
1547
01:21:00,047 --> 01:21:02,589
because they were all
so much shorter than me.
1548
01:21:02,673 --> 01:21:05,631
I knew before I auditioned that
the band was having problems
1549
01:21:05,714 --> 01:21:07,005
because Jane quit the band,
1550
01:21:07,089 --> 01:21:09,464
and I had read enough
and followed them enough
1551
01:21:09,547 --> 01:21:14,130
to know that things weren't
going great interpersonally.
1552
01:21:15,214 --> 01:21:17,798
So, we started
rehearsing with Paula Jean,
1553
01:21:17,881 --> 01:21:19,798
getting ready to go to Rio.
1554
01:21:19,881 --> 01:21:21,923
We're playing the biggest show
of our life.
1555
01:21:22,005 --> 01:21:25,631
It's the Rock in Rio festival.
1556
01:21:25,714 --> 01:21:27,130
Belinda!
1557
01:21:27,214 --> 01:21:30,005
What are your expectations
towards the festival?
1558
01:21:30,089 --> 01:21:31,964
Should be a lot of fun.
1559
01:21:33,339 --> 01:21:36,673
I could tell that
the joy of them playing together
1560
01:21:36,756 --> 01:21:39,506
was not what it probably
once was.
1561
01:21:39,589 --> 01:21:43,881
It felt to me like they were
all trying to muster it
1562
01:21:43,964 --> 01:21:46,089
for the occasion.
1563
01:21:46,923 --> 01:21:48,047
In Rio,
1564
01:21:48,130 --> 01:21:50,339
this is the height of
everybody's drug intake.
1565
01:21:50,422 --> 01:21:53,172
People driving around in cabs
searching for coke all night.
1566
01:21:53,255 --> 01:21:56,089
I didn't sleep for,
like, a week.
1567
01:21:58,339 --> 01:22:00,923
I'm supposed to go
to sound check
1568
01:22:01,005 --> 01:22:03,047
and I went out to cop some dope.
1569
01:22:03,130 --> 01:22:05,506
I was late,
and I had to make up a big lie,
1570
01:22:05,589 --> 01:22:07,381
and that's another thing
with drugs,
1571
01:22:07,464 --> 01:22:11,005
like, you become a big liar.
1572
01:22:11,089 --> 01:22:13,089
Charlotte was so out of control
1573
01:22:13,172 --> 01:22:15,714
that Ozzy Osbourne threw her out
of his dressing room.
1574
01:22:15,798 --> 01:22:17,297
Now that's pretty fucking bad.
1575
01:22:17,381 --> 01:22:20,005
♪ Head over heels,
where should I go ♪
1576
01:22:20,089 --> 01:22:23,464
♪ Can't stop myself,
outta control ♪
1577
01:22:23,547 --> 01:22:25,547
♪ Head over heels,
no time to think ♪
1578
01:22:25,631 --> 01:22:28,839
♪ Looks like the whole world's
out of sync ♪
1579
01:22:31,506 --> 01:22:33,381
The Go-Go's were a family,
1580
01:22:33,464 --> 01:22:35,464
and, you know,
I think that Gina and Kathy
1581
01:22:35,547 --> 01:22:38,798
kind of had become
the caretakers in a way,
1582
01:22:38,881 --> 01:22:40,714
trying to hold it together.
1583
01:22:43,881 --> 01:22:48,005
Charlotte was there, but you
could tell just not there.
1584
01:22:50,381 --> 01:22:54,089
It was just getting to be where
it was unsustainable.
1585
01:22:58,589 --> 01:23:00,130
Paula goes,
1586
01:23:00,214 --> 01:23:04,047
"You guys, Charlotte's
really in trouble."
1587
01:23:04,130 --> 01:23:06,422
What?
1588
01:23:06,506 --> 01:23:07,923
New girl says what?
1589
01:23:08,005 --> 01:23:11,172
I said, "I just really feel
like she's going to die."
1590
01:23:12,881 --> 01:23:15,422
Paula came to me
one day and said, you know,
1591
01:23:15,506 --> 01:23:18,923
"Charlotte, I know a place where
you can go to get some help."
1592
01:23:19,005 --> 01:23:20,839
And I said,
"What are you talking about?"
1593
01:23:20,923 --> 01:23:23,130
She told me about, you know,
1594
01:23:23,214 --> 01:23:28,089
a recovery hospital, you know,
for addicts.
1595
01:23:29,172 --> 01:23:32,798
And then, something shifted
in me.
1596
01:23:32,881 --> 01:23:34,422
I went back to Los Angeles
1597
01:23:34,506 --> 01:23:38,506
and I checked myself into rehab
with Paula's help.
1598
01:23:38,589 --> 01:23:42,631
I'm not saying it was easy,
but I was dedicated.
1599
01:23:42,714 --> 01:23:46,130
And I'm forever grateful to her
for giving me that information,
1600
01:23:46,214 --> 01:23:50,255
because it totally changed
my life and saved me.
1601
01:23:54,005 --> 01:23:56,673
When I got sober,
it was so amazing
1602
01:23:56,756 --> 01:24:01,589
to be free of that prison
that I was living in.
1603
01:24:02,464 --> 01:24:06,839
As dedicated as I was
to my band,
1604
01:24:06,923 --> 01:24:09,839
I was dedicated to myself.
1605
01:24:09,923 --> 01:24:12,673
When we started rehearsing again
for the fourth album,
1606
01:24:12,756 --> 01:24:16,172
I made the decision to choose
myself over the band.
1607
01:24:16,255 --> 01:24:18,673
It just wasn't working,
it wasn't going to work.
1608
01:24:18,756 --> 01:24:21,673
Paula was great,
but she wasn't Jane.
1609
01:24:21,756 --> 01:24:24,839
The only decent song that came
out of it was "Mad About You."
1610
01:24:24,923 --> 01:24:26,839
They really liked
"Mad About You."
1611
01:24:26,923 --> 01:24:29,964
It's a song that Paula wrote
for our band.
1612
01:24:30,047 --> 01:24:34,047
The relationships were
just disintegrating in the band.
1613
01:24:34,130 --> 01:24:38,297
Charlotte and I discussed
ending the band.
1614
01:24:41,089 --> 01:24:43,339
Gina and I are feeling
more and more
1615
01:24:43,422 --> 01:24:45,881
like Charlotte and Belinda
are on one side,
1616
01:24:45,964 --> 01:24:48,756
and me and Gina
are on the other side.
1617
01:24:51,130 --> 01:24:53,506
Her and Belinda
called Kathy and myself
1618
01:24:53,589 --> 01:24:55,089
into management's office.
1619
01:24:55,172 --> 01:24:57,881
I was like, "This is not good."
1620
01:24:57,964 --> 01:24:59,297
It's not good.
1621
01:24:59,381 --> 01:25:02,714
Even now, I can't. Remembering
this makes me feel ill.
1622
01:25:02,798 --> 01:25:05,047
"We've decided to break up
the band,"
1623
01:25:05,130 --> 01:25:06,631
that was the first thing.
1624
01:25:06,714 --> 01:25:08,714
And Gina and I said, "You can't.
1625
01:25:08,798 --> 01:25:11,547
You can't do that,
it's our band too."
1626
01:25:11,631 --> 01:25:13,798
"Yes, we can."
1627
01:25:14,798 --> 01:25:16,964
Somebody said,
1628
01:25:17,047 --> 01:25:20,464
"She writes the hits
and I am the voice."
1629
01:25:20,547 --> 01:25:23,297
"She's the voice
and I write the hits."
1630
01:25:25,089 --> 01:25:28,381
And Kathy and I were fucking
flabbergasted.
1631
01:25:28,464 --> 01:25:32,631
They completely freaked out,
completely freaked out.
1632
01:25:32,714 --> 01:25:35,130
There was a lot of crying
and screaming.
1633
01:25:35,214 --> 01:25:36,923
I definitely raged,
1634
01:25:37,005 --> 01:25:39,714
and then, I dialed back the rage
1635
01:25:39,798 --> 01:25:42,964
and groveled, apologizing.
1636
01:25:43,047 --> 01:25:46,589
I... I wanted to kill
both of them.
1637
01:25:46,673 --> 01:25:48,589
I really did.
1638
01:25:48,673 --> 01:25:50,214
After all we'd been through,
1639
01:25:50,297 --> 01:25:52,923
how could you fucking dare
say that to me?
1640
01:25:53,005 --> 01:25:56,130
I won't survive this
if I stay here
1641
01:25:56,214 --> 01:25:59,089
and I cannot risk using
and drinking again,
1642
01:25:59,172 --> 01:26:00,422
I cannot risk that.
1643
01:26:00,506 --> 01:26:04,297
What was horrible was like
going home from that meeting
1644
01:26:04,381 --> 01:26:05,923
just shattered.
1645
01:26:06,005 --> 01:26:07,923
And then, the phone rings
1646
01:26:08,005 --> 01:26:11,547
and it's the guy
from the management company
1647
01:26:11,631 --> 01:26:15,422
and my heart just, like, "Ah,
they've changed their mind!"
1648
01:26:16,297 --> 01:26:17,756
And instead he goes,
1649
01:26:17,839 --> 01:26:20,214
"You're going to get a call from
The L.A. Times
1650
01:26:20,297 --> 01:26:23,172
to make a comment
about the band breaking up."
1651
01:26:23,255 --> 01:26:26,297
It's like, "What,
are you fucking kidding me?"
1652
01:26:26,381 --> 01:26:28,964
You know, it's been an hour.
1653
01:26:32,422 --> 01:26:35,297
Within months of me leaving
the band ended up breaking up,
1654
01:26:35,381 --> 01:26:37,589
and I certainly wasn't happy
about it,
1655
01:26:37,673 --> 01:26:39,464
but I also wasn't
surprised either.
1656
01:26:39,547 --> 01:26:41,798
We didn't speak to each other
1657
01:26:41,881 --> 01:26:44,130
for five years after that.
1658
01:26:44,214 --> 01:26:47,130
Gina and Kathy,
I didn't speak to.
1659
01:26:47,214 --> 01:26:49,798
Jane was off doing her solo
record.
1660
01:26:49,881 --> 01:26:52,297
I felt the need to try
something new.
1661
01:26:52,381 --> 01:26:55,714
I was also interested
in singing my own material.
1662
01:27:04,839 --> 01:27:06,839
I was used to being a big star,
1663
01:27:06,923 --> 01:27:09,673
and all of a sudden it was like,
"She sucks!"
1664
01:27:09,756 --> 01:27:12,673
I hated it so much
and I was just so mad,
1665
01:27:12,756 --> 01:27:17,547
but now honestly, I really feel
like the person I am today
1666
01:27:17,631 --> 01:27:21,130
would not exist without all
the failure I went through,
1667
01:27:21,214 --> 01:27:25,673
and all the success I ever had
never taught me one damn thing.
1668
01:27:25,756 --> 01:27:26,673
Never.
1669
01:27:28,422 --> 01:27:33,506
I tried so hard
to create another band
1670
01:27:33,589 --> 01:27:38,381
with the chemistry and the magic
that The Go-Go's had,
1671
01:27:38,464 --> 01:27:42,130
and nothing I did seemed
to work out.
1672
01:27:42,214 --> 01:27:43,506
I tried being a singer.
1673
01:27:43,589 --> 01:27:45,589
I never wanted to be a singer,
but I tried it.
1674
01:27:45,673 --> 01:27:47,172
I couldn't be a studio player
1675
01:27:47,255 --> 01:27:49,047
because I didn't know how
to read music
1676
01:27:49,130 --> 01:27:50,506
and that wasn't my thing.
1677
01:27:50,589 --> 01:27:53,673
And so, I went out
and tried to get a solo deal.
1678
01:27:53,756 --> 01:27:56,881
I did one show at the Roxy and
got signed by Capitol Records,
1679
01:27:56,964 --> 01:27:59,214
which was great for a while.
1680
01:27:59,297 --> 01:28:01,005
And then after a few years,
1681
01:28:01,089 --> 01:28:04,089
it was almost like The Go-Go's
didn't even exist anymore.
1682
01:28:04,172 --> 01:28:06,381
It was only like, Belinda!
1683
01:28:06,464 --> 01:28:08,381
When The Go-Go's split up
1684
01:28:08,464 --> 01:28:10,464
I guess everybody went
their separate ways,
1685
01:28:10,547 --> 01:28:13,047
but you're the only one
who really hit it big.
1686
01:28:13,130 --> 01:28:14,839
Why do you think that's
the case?
1687
01:28:14,923 --> 01:28:17,214
Well, I think I definitely had
a head start
1688
01:28:17,297 --> 01:28:18,714
as being the focus
of the band,
1689
01:28:18,798 --> 01:28:20,798
which, you know,
people do tend to focus
1690
01:28:20,881 --> 01:28:22,798
on the lead singer of any band.
1691
01:28:22,881 --> 01:28:26,631
And, you know, that did give me
some advantages.
1692
01:28:26,714 --> 01:28:28,714
Belinda offered me a job.
1693
01:28:28,798 --> 01:28:32,089
She said, "Do you wanna tour
with me and write on my record?"
1694
01:28:32,172 --> 01:28:33,506
I was so grateful to her,
1695
01:28:33,589 --> 01:28:36,255
because that was still
at that place in my life
1696
01:28:36,339 --> 01:28:39,255
where that was my identity,
doing that,
1697
01:28:39,339 --> 01:28:43,297
and just beginning to find out
that that wasn't who--
1698
01:28:43,381 --> 01:28:46,297
that wasn't the totality
of who I am.
1699
01:28:46,381 --> 01:28:49,673
So, she gave me that bridge.
1700
01:28:50,964 --> 01:28:52,381
As they went on,
1701
01:28:52,464 --> 01:28:54,547
Charlotte was working
with Belinda.
1702
01:28:54,631 --> 01:28:56,339
Jane is back in the fold.
1703
01:28:56,422 --> 01:28:57,839
Now, all of a sudden, it's like,
1704
01:28:57,923 --> 01:28:59,964
the three of them
are doing shit for Belinda.
1705
01:29:00,047 --> 01:29:03,923
I started feeling like it was
a vendetta against me and Gina.
1706
01:29:04,005 --> 01:29:08,047
It was... it was horrible.
1707
01:29:10,089 --> 01:29:12,381
I just wanted to write
and play drums.
1708
01:29:12,464 --> 01:29:14,964
I've written stuff
for other people.
1709
01:29:15,047 --> 01:29:17,297
I had a song covered
by Miley Cyrus,
1710
01:29:17,381 --> 01:29:19,464
and then four songs
by Selena Gomez,
1711
01:29:19,547 --> 01:29:22,673
so I felt like, "Yeah, finally
getting what I deserve."
1712
01:29:24,381 --> 01:29:26,464
I've always known I had a book
in me...
1713
01:29:26,547 --> 01:29:27,631
When I turned 40,
1714
01:29:27,714 --> 01:29:30,506
I was dropped by my record
company as a solo artist,
1715
01:29:30,589 --> 01:29:33,297
and that was actually
the beginning of, like,
1716
01:29:33,381 --> 01:29:35,631
soul searching
and what is this all about?
1717
01:29:35,714 --> 01:29:37,339
What were The Go-Go's all about?
1718
01:29:37,422 --> 01:29:38,839
Who am I?
1719
01:29:38,923 --> 01:29:42,923
With sobriety, my world is vast
and bigger than it's ever been.
1720
01:29:43,005 --> 01:29:47,339
I think for me, there are a lot
of ego issues, to be honest,
1721
01:29:47,422 --> 01:29:51,089
a lot of slapping down
I've needed,
1722
01:29:51,172 --> 01:29:54,673
and a lot of...
I needed a lot of humbling.
1723
01:29:54,756 --> 01:29:58,673
It's five people in this band,
1724
01:29:58,756 --> 01:30:03,172
and everybody was set
on their own sort of course...
1725
01:30:04,214 --> 01:30:07,047
But then we got back together.
1726
01:30:07,130 --> 01:30:08,881
Because the story never ends!
1727
01:30:08,964 --> 01:30:10,589
The story never ends.
1728
01:30:15,381 --> 01:30:18,172
Thank you for coming out
tonight.
1729
01:30:24,130 --> 01:30:26,923
♪ See the people walking
down the street ♪
1730
01:30:27,005 --> 01:30:31,881
As angry as I was when
they broke up the band,
1731
01:30:31,964 --> 01:30:33,673
I missed them.
1732
01:30:33,756 --> 01:30:37,714
Nobody really knows what that
felt like to be in The Go-Go's,
1733
01:30:37,798 --> 01:30:41,923
only four other people know
what that feels like.
1734
01:30:42,005 --> 01:30:43,214
And that's the bond.
1735
01:30:43,297 --> 01:30:48,381
Nothing has happened so bad
that it overshadows that.
1736
01:30:51,297 --> 01:30:53,089
I don't know how
this keeps going,
1737
01:30:53,172 --> 01:30:54,464
I swear to Christ, I don't.
1738
01:30:54,547 --> 01:30:56,714
The Go-Go's day in Hollywood!
1739
01:31:03,130 --> 01:31:04,714
We are making Go-Go's history
1740
01:31:04,798 --> 01:31:07,881
with our debut as Broadway
songwriters.
1741
01:31:08,714 --> 01:31:10,756
You get older and you get wiser,
1742
01:31:10,839 --> 01:31:13,381
and you drop a lot
of the bullshit.
1743
01:31:13,464 --> 01:31:16,214
We are a family,
that's just what it is.
1744
01:31:16,297 --> 01:31:17,589
♪ We got the beat ♪
1745
01:31:17,673 --> 01:31:19,756
♪ Everybody get on your feet ♪
1746
01:31:19,839 --> 01:31:21,589
♪ We know you can... ♪
1747
01:31:21,673 --> 01:31:23,923
-Can you drum?
1748
01:31:24,005 --> 01:31:25,547
Gina needs coffee.
1749
01:31:25,631 --> 01:31:27,089
♪ We used to have the beat ♪
1750
01:31:27,172 --> 01:31:28,714
♪ We had the beat ♪
1751
01:31:28,798 --> 01:31:31,214
I remember when we had the beat!
We got it back.
1752
01:31:31,297 --> 01:31:34,172
♪ Everybody, we got the beat ♪
1753
01:31:34,255 --> 01:31:36,464
♪ We got the,
we got the beat ♪
1754
01:31:36,547 --> 01:31:38,172
That was fantastic.
1755
01:31:38,255 --> 01:31:39,839
That was amazing.
1756
01:31:39,923 --> 01:31:43,464
Oh, my God, do we have
the motherfucking beat.
1757
01:31:43,547 --> 01:31:44,839
I love that.
1758
01:31:44,923 --> 01:31:48,005
That wasn't bad for not playing
together a really long time.
1759
01:31:50,130 --> 01:31:51,798
Hey, it doesn't hurt
to rehearse,
1760
01:31:51,881 --> 01:31:53,964
it only makes you tighter.
1761
01:31:54,047 --> 01:31:56,047
I think that The Go-Go's,
1762
01:31:56,130 --> 01:31:57,464
if you believe in karma,
1763
01:31:57,547 --> 01:32:00,798
there's a lot of karmic ties
in this band.
1764
01:32:00,881 --> 01:32:03,381
Just the fact that we've been
in each other's lives
1765
01:32:03,464 --> 01:32:06,172
for so many years, it has to be
to work out something.
1766
01:32:06,255 --> 01:32:09,381
♪ Fair's fair, don't care ♪
1767
01:32:09,464 --> 01:32:13,589
♪ They may have control
but we're not scared ♪
1768
01:32:15,214 --> 01:32:16,923
♪ Zero fucks given ♪
1769
01:32:17,005 --> 01:32:18,297
Oops.
1770
01:32:18,381 --> 01:32:21,547
About a year ago,
I went to a psychiatrist
1771
01:32:21,631 --> 01:32:24,589
who diagnosed me
as being bipolar.
1772
01:32:24,673 --> 01:32:27,339
♪ Wake up, can't you see ♪
1773
01:32:27,422 --> 01:32:29,422
For the first time in my life
1774
01:32:29,506 --> 01:32:32,631
I haven't thought of suicide
in a year,
1775
01:32:32,714 --> 01:32:34,923
which is like fucking
mind-blowing to me.
1776
01:32:35,005 --> 01:32:37,464
Do you want to decide which key
you like better?
1777
01:32:37,547 --> 01:32:38,839
-Yeah, that'd be good.
-Okay.
1778
01:32:38,923 --> 01:32:41,631
And luckily, The Go-Go's have
finally gotten to the point
1779
01:32:41,714 --> 01:32:44,673
where we actually can be civil
to each other and get along.
1780
01:32:44,756 --> 01:32:47,130
I can see the good in everyone
in the band.
1781
01:32:51,089 --> 01:32:55,089
♪ There's a place for us,
don't look for a sign ♪
1782
01:32:55,172 --> 01:32:57,339
♪ Not on a map ♪
1783
01:32:57,422 --> 01:32:59,631
♪ It's a state of mind ♪
1784
01:33:01,089 --> 01:33:03,172
♪ This is club zero ♪
1785
01:33:03,255 --> 01:33:05,255
Okay, so, verse or chorus?
1786
01:33:05,339 --> 01:33:07,923
We talked about things we wanted
to write about
1787
01:33:08,005 --> 01:33:10,964
and we did kind
of make a conscious decision
1788
01:33:11,047 --> 01:33:13,673
to try to write about, you know,
1789
01:33:13,756 --> 01:33:16,381
the place of women
and our future roles.
1790
01:33:16,464 --> 01:33:20,297
It's kind of a testament
to our longevity and our bond.
1791
01:33:20,381 --> 01:33:22,464
-Tenacity.
-And how we can work together.
1792
01:33:22,547 --> 01:33:25,130
That we've been able
to withstand it, I think...
1793
01:33:26,089 --> 01:33:27,422
It was hard!
1794
01:33:27,506 --> 01:33:29,798
We've been able to live
through it!
1795
01:33:31,047 --> 01:33:32,631
What were you saying,
Gina?
1796
01:33:32,714 --> 01:33:34,297
Wait a minute!
1797
01:33:34,381 --> 01:33:36,089
Okay, are we ready to go loud?
1798
01:33:36,172 --> 01:33:38,547
- Yeah, man.
- You wanna go loud?
1799
01:33:38,631 --> 01:33:40,381
One, two, a-one, two...
1800
01:33:46,422 --> 01:33:50,130
♪ There's a place for us,
don't look for a sign ♪
1801
01:33:50,214 --> 01:33:51,714
♪ Not on a map ♪
1802
01:33:51,798 --> 01:33:54,172
♪ It's a state of mind ♪
1803
01:33:55,297 --> 01:33:57,381
♪ This is club zero ♪
1804
01:33:59,714 --> 01:34:02,547
♪ The rules they made
are battle lines ♪
1805
01:34:02,631 --> 01:34:05,756
♪ The grand design
is out of time ♪
1806
01:34:05,839 --> 01:34:09,923
♪ Hey, we've got something
to say... ♪
1807
01:34:10,005 --> 01:34:13,714
There was this power
that we all felt,
1808
01:34:13,798 --> 01:34:17,839
of us together
doing what we're doing.
1809
01:34:17,923 --> 01:34:21,297
We showed up as who we were
1810
01:34:21,381 --> 01:34:24,255
and just, against all odds,
1811
01:34:24,339 --> 01:34:26,881
busted through some ceilings.
1812
01:34:39,547 --> 01:34:41,214
I don't know what more
they have to do
1813
01:34:41,297 --> 01:34:43,130
to get in the Rock & Roll
Hall of Fame.
1814
01:34:43,214 --> 01:34:46,589
What the fuck? They're not?
1815
01:34:46,673 --> 01:34:49,422
Come on! Come on!
1816
01:34:49,506 --> 01:34:51,631
They're in my Rock & Roll
Hall of Fame.
1817
01:34:58,673 --> 01:35:02,005
♪ There's a place for us,
don't look for a sign ♪
1818
01:35:02,089 --> 01:35:03,964
♪ Not on a map ♪
1819
01:35:04,047 --> 01:35:06,547
♪ It's a state of mind ♪
1820
01:35:07,547 --> 01:35:09,756
♪ This is club zero ♪
1821
01:35:11,631 --> 01:35:14,798
♪ Time's up,
it's the clarion call ♪
1822
01:35:14,881 --> 01:35:19,422
♪ 'Cause zero hour
is upon us all ♪
1823
01:35:19,506 --> 01:35:21,798
♪ Tik-tok, tik-tok ♪
1824
01:35:24,005 --> 01:35:27,297
♪ The rules they made
are battle lines ♪
1825
01:35:27,381 --> 01:35:30,631
♪ The grand design
is out of time ♪
1826
01:35:30,714 --> 01:35:35,297
♪ Hey, we've got something
to say ♪
1827
01:35:35,381 --> 01:35:37,506
♪ Gonna make the world shake ♪
1828
01:35:37,589 --> 01:35:40,005
♪ Ready or not, here we are ♪
1829
01:35:40,089 --> 01:35:43,130
♪ Better get out of our way ♪
1830
01:35:43,214 --> 01:35:46,422
♪ Looking for heroes,
we are club zero ♪
1831
01:35:48,589 --> 01:35:50,756
-I love it.
- We did blow in our bras.
1832
01:35:50,839 --> 01:35:52,422
That day we did blow
and gave birth.
1833
01:35:52,506 --> 01:35:54,381
Yeah, it was time
to have babies.
1834
01:35:54,464 --> 01:35:55,673
Which one is that?
1835
01:35:55,756 --> 01:35:56,923
She's having her baby.
1836
01:35:57,005 --> 01:35:58,631
Why am I always the baby?
1837
01:35:58,714 --> 01:36:00,047
You were always the baby
1838
01:36:00,130 --> 01:36:03,506
'cause you were the only one
that could fit between our legs.
1839
01:36:04,422 --> 01:36:07,381
♪ Fair's fair, don't care ♪
1840
01:36:07,464 --> 01:36:11,297
♪ They may have control
but we're not scared ♪
1841
01:36:12,631 --> 01:36:14,964
♪ Zero fucks given ♪
1842
01:36:17,089 --> 01:36:20,130
♪ Wake up, can't you see ♪
1843
01:36:20,214 --> 01:36:24,172
♪ Heads up, we're the new MVPs
1844
01:36:24,255 --> 01:36:27,047
♪ Of the twenty-first century ♪
1845
01:36:28,881 --> 01:36:32,464
♪ The rules they made
are battle lines ♪
1846
01:36:32,547 --> 01:36:35,714
♪ The grand design
is out of time ♪
1847
01:36:35,798 --> 01:36:40,381
♪ Hey, we've got something
to say ♪
1848
01:36:40,464 --> 01:36:42,214
♪ Gonna make the world shake ♪
1849
01:36:42,297 --> 01:36:44,756
♪ Ready or not, here we come ♪
1850
01:36:44,839 --> 01:36:48,339
♪ You better get out
of our way ♪
1851
01:36:48,422 --> 01:36:51,589
♪ We won't stop
until we're done ♪
1852
01:36:51,673 --> 01:36:55,047
♪ Better get out of our way ♪
1853
01:36:55,130 --> 01:36:59,923
♪ Walking like heroes,
we are club zero ♪
1854
01:37:18,339 --> 01:37:21,422
♪ The rules they made
are battle lines ♪
1855
01:37:21,506 --> 01:37:24,964
♪ The grand design
is out of time ♪
1856
01:37:25,047 --> 01:37:29,631
♪ Hey, we've got something
to say ♪
1857
01:37:29,714 --> 01:37:31,422
♪ Gonna make the world shake ♪
1858
01:37:31,506 --> 01:37:34,297
♪ Ready or not, here we come ♪
1859
01:37:34,381 --> 01:37:37,714
♪ You better get out
of our way ♪
1860
01:37:37,798 --> 01:37:40,798
♪ We won't stop
until we're done ♪
1861
01:37:40,881 --> 01:37:43,881
♪ Better get out of our way ♪
1862
01:37:43,964 --> 01:37:47,172
♪ Looking for heroes,
we are club zero ♪
1863
01:37:47,255 --> 01:37:52,422
♪ Walking like heroes,
we are club zero ♪
1864
01:37:53,547 --> 01:37:54,923
♪ Oh ♪
1865
01:37:56,381 --> 01:37:58,381
♪ Oh ♪
1866
01:37:59,381 --> 01:38:00,964
♪h
1867
01:38:02,172 --> 01:38:03,214
♪h
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