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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:09,176 --> 00:00:12,179 Chelan's amazing. Happy, beautiful. 2 00:00:15,057 --> 00:00:17,017 She used all her money on drugs. 3 00:00:17,100 --> 00:00:19,061 She went from having her photography business, 4 00:00:19,144 --> 00:00:20,687 and working, and a great family life, 5 00:00:20,771 --> 00:00:23,023 and her three children, to... 6 00:00:23,106 --> 00:00:24,775 Living on the streets. 7 00:00:24,858 --> 00:00:27,319 ♪ 8 00:00:27,402 --> 00:00:30,113 She's prostituting to get her heroin. 9 00:00:30,197 --> 00:00:32,533 Hey, you looking for a date? Yeah? 10 00:00:32,616 --> 00:00:35,661 For a date, I usually charge about 60, $70, 11 00:00:35,744 --> 00:00:37,663 every 15 minutes... 12 00:00:37,704 --> 00:00:39,706 Which all goes to heroin. 13 00:00:39,790 --> 00:00:42,834 ♪ 14 00:00:42,918 --> 00:00:46,838 One weekend she took the kids to their respective fathers and 15 00:00:46,922 --> 00:00:49,091 did not pick them up. 16 00:00:52,678 --> 00:00:55,639 Ouch. 17 00:00:55,722 --> 00:00:59,351 My worst fear is that she's going to 18 00:00:59,434 --> 00:01:01,728 get the wrong heroin and it's gonna have fentanyl in it, 19 00:01:01,812 --> 00:01:03,730 and she's gonna die. 20 00:01:03,814 --> 00:01:05,607 (Groans) 21 00:01:05,691 --> 00:01:08,151 ♪ 22 00:01:08,235 --> 00:01:10,529 I want to get my, my daughter back. 23 00:01:10,612 --> 00:01:20,581 ♪ 24 00:01:20,706 --> 00:01:25,669 ♪ 25 00:01:28,630 --> 00:01:33,176 ♪ 26 00:01:33,260 --> 00:01:34,469 Remember, when you used to come over? 27 00:01:34,553 --> 00:01:36,138 Remember, you used to brush my hair, you and (beep)? 28 00:01:36,179 --> 00:01:37,806 Yeah. ‐ Remember that? 29 00:01:37,889 --> 00:01:41,101 My name's Chelan, I'm 29. 30 00:01:41,184 --> 00:01:43,270 I was successful; I was someone. 31 00:01:43,353 --> 00:01:45,439 And, you know, I was a mother. 32 00:01:45,522 --> 00:01:47,691 Right now I'm staying, at night time, 33 00:01:47,774 --> 00:01:49,818 with my friend Alesha. 34 00:01:49,860 --> 00:01:53,071 I suppose you want whipped cream on that hot chocolate, too, eh? 35 00:01:53,155 --> 00:01:54,823 Yes, please. 36 00:01:54,906 --> 00:01:57,284 Ready to go do your hair? 37 00:01:59,703 --> 00:02:00,829 It's in my room. 38 00:02:00,871 --> 00:02:04,374 You can take it and put it in the bathroom, if you like. 39 00:02:04,458 --> 00:02:06,960 So how is school this year? ‐ Good. 40 00:02:07,044 --> 00:02:09,921 Yeah? All your friends are in your class? 41 00:02:10,005 --> 00:02:11,340 Uh‐huh. 42 00:02:11,423 --> 00:02:14,843 Chelan's amazing ‐ happy, beautiful. 43 00:02:14,926 --> 00:02:16,511 Easily approachable... 44 00:02:16,595 --> 00:02:19,139 Would give you her shirt off her back to help ya. 45 00:02:19,222 --> 00:02:21,850 I noticed this week, being here, that you... 46 00:02:21,933 --> 00:02:23,769 Like to push your mama's buttons, eh? 47 00:02:23,852 --> 00:02:25,145 Yeah. ‐ Yeah. 48 00:02:25,228 --> 00:02:26,688 She's got three kids. 49 00:02:26,772 --> 00:02:29,316 Chelan loves her boys. 50 00:02:29,358 --> 00:02:31,276 They were always number one in her life. 51 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:35,072 The kids had the best costumes and the nicest clothes. 52 00:02:35,155 --> 00:02:37,282 There were a number of times when I looked at her 53 00:02:37,366 --> 00:02:38,992 and thought, what a good mom. 54 00:02:39,034 --> 00:02:41,244 All right, everybody. 55 00:02:41,328 --> 00:02:44,373 ♪ 56 00:02:44,456 --> 00:02:48,794 She was always active, outdoorsy type person. 57 00:02:48,835 --> 00:02:51,463 Okay, bye, Matteah. 58 00:02:51,505 --> 00:02:53,632 You're welcome. Thanks for the ride. 59 00:02:53,674 --> 00:02:54,549 I will talk to you after. 60 00:02:54,633 --> 00:02:57,636 All right. Stay safe out there. 61 00:02:57,719 --> 00:03:02,265 She was sporty. She was great with her kids. 62 00:03:02,349 --> 00:03:05,977 Now, that drugs has taken over her life... 63 00:03:06,019 --> 00:03:08,188 She's none of that anymore. 64 00:03:08,271 --> 00:03:10,774 I am addicted to heroin. 65 00:03:10,857 --> 00:03:13,318 ♪ 66 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:17,364 I'm using about a half gram to a gram of heroin, 67 00:03:17,447 --> 00:03:19,241 give or take, each day. 68 00:03:19,324 --> 00:03:21,660 It depends on how much money I have. 69 00:03:24,162 --> 00:03:26,540 When you smoke, give me a couple puffs? 70 00:03:26,623 --> 00:03:28,458 Yeah? Okay, sweet. 71 00:03:28,542 --> 00:03:31,420 And I did, I actually did like too much heroin, like... 72 00:03:31,503 --> 00:03:32,671 (Laughs) 73 00:03:32,754 --> 00:03:34,172 She went from working and a great family life, 74 00:03:34,256 --> 00:03:36,591 and her three children, to... 75 00:03:36,675 --> 00:03:38,468 Living on the streets. 76 00:03:38,552 --> 00:03:48,520 ♪ 77 00:03:50,814 --> 00:03:52,023 Okay, I'm just gonna go get ready right now and 78 00:03:52,107 --> 00:03:54,234 go and try and make some money. 79 00:03:54,317 --> 00:03:57,863 She's prostituting to, to get her heroin. 80 00:03:57,946 --> 00:04:01,324 You looking for a date? Yeah? 81 00:04:01,408 --> 00:04:04,244 I don't feel like she's my daughter. 82 00:04:04,327 --> 00:04:07,414 This feels like the drugs is controlling her life. 83 00:04:07,497 --> 00:04:11,585 ♪ 84 00:04:11,668 --> 00:04:13,837 I enjoy the high of heroin 'cause it, 85 00:04:13,920 --> 00:04:17,090 it relaxes me. It... 86 00:04:17,174 --> 00:04:19,801 it's like a big Band‐Aid, I always said. 87 00:04:19,885 --> 00:04:23,638 You know, it makes any of my emotional pain or anything, 88 00:04:23,722 --> 00:04:25,098 it, it takes it away. 89 00:04:25,182 --> 00:04:26,808 Makes, you know... 90 00:04:26,892 --> 00:04:28,310 Everything's okay. 91 00:04:28,351 --> 00:04:30,479 Yeah, affection feels good. 92 00:04:30,562 --> 00:04:33,940 ♪ 93 00:04:34,024 --> 00:04:35,859 She just looks like... 94 00:04:35,942 --> 00:04:38,820 A zombie from an apocalypse. 95 00:04:38,862 --> 00:04:41,281 Because her face is so just chewed up from, 96 00:04:41,364 --> 00:04:44,326 from the drugs. 97 00:04:44,409 --> 00:04:47,245 Her kids aren't a priority anymore. 98 00:04:47,329 --> 00:04:50,457 Nobody matters in Chelan's life anymore. 99 00:04:50,540 --> 00:04:54,294 Nobody except for finding drugs. 100 00:04:54,377 --> 00:04:56,004 Do you have any heroin? 101 00:04:56,087 --> 00:04:57,297 I've only got five bucks... 102 00:04:57,339 --> 00:04:59,382 right now, and I'm like really sick. 103 00:04:59,466 --> 00:05:01,051 She's been on the streets. 104 00:05:01,134 --> 00:05:03,637 You guys don't ‐ you don't have any down? 105 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:08,058 Some crack shacks and drug houses that she has stayed in. 106 00:05:08,141 --> 00:05:12,270 You hear about a body being found... 107 00:05:12,354 --> 00:05:13,814 Hi. ‐ Hi. 108 00:05:13,855 --> 00:05:15,148 Did you want me to get in? 109 00:05:15,232 --> 00:05:16,525 I can just see it, you know, waiting for that 110 00:05:16,608 --> 00:05:18,151 phone call from my dad, or... 111 00:05:18,193 --> 00:05:20,487 Someone saying that, you know, she's, 112 00:05:20,570 --> 00:05:23,532 she's gone. She's dead. 113 00:05:23,615 --> 00:05:28,245 ♪ 114 00:05:28,328 --> 00:05:29,955 There's a lot of memories with Chelan. 115 00:05:30,038 --> 00:05:31,039 Me and Chelan were really close. 116 00:05:31,122 --> 00:05:32,499 Chelan was always very active. 117 00:05:32,582 --> 00:05:34,501 We lived in a cul‐de‐sac with my dad, 118 00:05:34,584 --> 00:05:36,419 and she had tons and tons of friends. 119 00:05:36,503 --> 00:05:38,797 She was always outside playing with them. 120 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:40,298 Chelan was happy‐go‐lucky. 121 00:05:40,340 --> 00:05:42,092 She liked being around people; always smiling. 122 00:05:42,175 --> 00:05:45,345 Chelan had a really special relationship with my dad. 123 00:05:45,428 --> 00:05:47,389 I was the favourite, you know... 124 00:05:47,472 --> 00:05:49,432 I came first before everyone else. 125 00:05:49,516 --> 00:05:53,311 And love her, I mean, I only want the best for her. 126 00:05:53,353 --> 00:05:54,813 But ah... 127 00:05:54,855 --> 00:05:57,399 I probably wasn't the best father. 128 00:05:57,482 --> 00:06:00,861 My dad's parenting style was he was drunk. 129 00:06:00,944 --> 00:06:03,738 I was an alcoholic; I still am an alcoholic. 130 00:06:03,822 --> 00:06:07,325 I was drinking upwards of a 26'er a day. 131 00:06:07,367 --> 00:06:09,661 But you know, I remember my dad, like, 132 00:06:09,744 --> 00:06:11,830 when he would drink, like... 133 00:06:11,872 --> 00:06:14,624 He did a lot of like insensitive things. 134 00:06:14,708 --> 00:06:15,834 He didn't really, you know, 135 00:06:15,917 --> 00:06:17,878 take care of my two older siblings. 136 00:06:17,961 --> 00:06:22,173 Family was very unhealthy, very not functional. 137 00:06:22,257 --> 00:06:25,594 Like, it wasn't... happy times. 138 00:06:25,677 --> 00:06:27,637 Like my mom was always bitchy, 139 00:06:27,679 --> 00:06:31,433 and my dad was always drunk. 140 00:06:31,516 --> 00:06:35,020 I couldn't be around my dad and his alcoholism, 141 00:06:35,103 --> 00:06:36,354 so I cut it all out. 142 00:06:36,438 --> 00:06:39,816 I left when I was 19, to go work in Alberta. 143 00:06:39,858 --> 00:06:42,569 And, I had very little contact with any of 144 00:06:42,652 --> 00:06:44,696 my family because my dad was a drunk, 145 00:06:44,779 --> 00:06:46,156 straight drunk. 146 00:06:46,239 --> 00:06:49,659 ♪ 147 00:06:49,701 --> 00:06:52,037 I think I felt really alone. 148 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:53,914 Really, really alone. 149 00:06:53,997 --> 00:06:56,583 ♪ 150 00:06:56,666 --> 00:06:58,585 My dad just left, too. 151 00:06:58,668 --> 00:07:00,879 Just left us right after Christmas. 152 00:07:00,962 --> 00:07:04,591 And I think my mom was maybe so stressed out from my dad 153 00:07:04,674 --> 00:07:06,676 that she, she didn't have... 154 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:10,138 The energy to pay attention to... 155 00:07:10,221 --> 00:07:13,683 What... was going on with me. 156 00:07:13,767 --> 00:07:16,144 ♪ 157 00:07:16,227 --> 00:07:19,064 I felt like I was just such a burden. 158 00:07:19,147 --> 00:07:24,361 We were definitely partying and going out drinking, 159 00:07:24,444 --> 00:07:27,113 and using other recreational drugs. 160 00:07:27,197 --> 00:07:28,782 And then she met (beep). 161 00:07:28,865 --> 00:07:32,160 He was kind of like the bad boy. 162 00:07:32,202 --> 00:07:36,289 He had money to play with. 163 00:07:36,373 --> 00:07:38,375 They had fun together in the beginning. 164 00:07:38,458 --> 00:07:40,877 Then, all of sudden, now she's pregnant. 165 00:07:40,961 --> 00:07:44,464 Her first two children were born in the same year, 166 00:07:44,506 --> 00:07:47,050 one in January, one in December, 167 00:07:47,133 --> 00:07:48,385 later that year. 168 00:07:48,468 --> 00:07:52,097 He was into selling drugs, all that kind of stuff. 169 00:07:52,180 --> 00:07:54,307 He cheated on me all the time. 170 00:07:54,391 --> 00:07:56,518 Like, it was just... 171 00:07:56,601 --> 00:07:58,144 up and down. It was ‐ 172 00:07:58,228 --> 00:08:02,065 like, I left him two weeks after I had my second son. 173 00:08:02,148 --> 00:08:09,447 ♪ 174 00:08:09,531 --> 00:08:11,491 Chelan did really well as a single mom. 175 00:08:11,533 --> 00:08:12,826 She was amazing. 176 00:08:12,867 --> 00:08:14,661 Her kids had everything they wanted. 177 00:08:14,703 --> 00:08:17,455 I was proud. I had these two beautiful little boys 178 00:08:17,539 --> 00:08:18,832 who I was taking care of. 179 00:08:18,873 --> 00:08:22,127 They gave me motivation to better myself. 180 00:08:22,168 --> 00:08:25,088 She started going back to school for a program that 181 00:08:25,171 --> 00:08:27,632 was tailored specifically for young mothers. 182 00:08:27,716 --> 00:08:30,468 Shortly after that, she met Chris. 183 00:08:30,510 --> 00:08:35,181 Chris was so nice, accepting, didn't drink... 184 00:08:35,265 --> 00:08:36,975 Didn't really party... 185 00:08:37,017 --> 00:08:39,853 He took on her boys like they were his own. 186 00:08:39,936 --> 00:08:42,689 My brother did everything for Chelan's two boys. 187 00:08:42,772 --> 00:08:44,274 We just moved into this nice house. 188 00:08:44,357 --> 00:08:45,650 I was happy. 189 00:08:45,734 --> 00:08:48,528 I was starting my photography business. 190 00:08:48,611 --> 00:08:50,405 That was her pride and joy. 191 00:08:50,488 --> 00:08:51,948 She would always take pictures of her kids, 192 00:08:52,032 --> 00:08:54,993 go around taking pictures of other people's families. 193 00:08:55,035 --> 00:08:57,829 She did my maternity photo shoot for me. 194 00:08:57,871 --> 00:09:01,249 It seemed like Chelan captured true moments, 195 00:09:01,332 --> 00:09:03,251 like, true, realness through people. 196 00:09:03,334 --> 00:09:06,838 She was able to bring out a lot of happiness in a lot of people. 197 00:09:06,921 --> 00:09:10,967 I saw that she was putting her family first. 198 00:09:11,051 --> 00:09:13,636 She resented me for quite a while, 199 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:17,182 but then we slowly started to have a good relationship. 200 00:09:17,265 --> 00:09:19,225 We were buddy buddies again. 201 00:09:19,309 --> 00:09:21,811 She blossomed into a homemaker, 202 00:09:21,853 --> 00:09:24,481 a potential wife; they got engaged. 203 00:09:24,522 --> 00:09:26,024 She became pregnant. 204 00:09:26,107 --> 00:09:29,486 Those were the happiest days of my life. 205 00:09:29,527 --> 00:09:31,362 I was taking care of both my kids, like, I... 206 00:09:31,446 --> 00:09:33,990 I was so happy; I really was. 207 00:09:34,074 --> 00:09:37,035 I loved being a mother. 208 00:09:37,118 --> 00:09:41,664 But, I know that after Chelan had Zayden, 209 00:09:41,706 --> 00:09:45,627 Chris had a detachment from her. 210 00:09:45,668 --> 00:09:49,589 And, the pressure of them both working full‐time, 211 00:09:49,672 --> 00:09:52,967 and the pressure of having three children 212 00:09:53,009 --> 00:09:54,677 became too much, 213 00:09:54,761 --> 00:09:57,472 and the relationship just deteriorated. 214 00:09:57,514 --> 00:10:01,142 Chris was driving me to work. 215 00:10:01,226 --> 00:10:03,645 When he dropped me off, he just was like... 216 00:10:03,686 --> 00:10:07,107 "I don't love you anymore". 217 00:10:07,190 --> 00:10:09,317 My reality... 218 00:10:09,359 --> 00:10:11,027 like, just broke. 219 00:10:11,111 --> 00:10:15,156 ♪ 220 00:10:15,240 --> 00:10:20,370 I didn't know, like, who I was anymore, like... 221 00:10:20,453 --> 00:10:22,038 My family, this, you know, 222 00:10:22,122 --> 00:10:25,083 beautiful family that I had was... 223 00:10:25,166 --> 00:10:26,584 Just over. 224 00:10:26,668 --> 00:10:27,836 She's not good at being single. 225 00:10:27,919 --> 00:10:29,838 Chelan does not like to be alone. 226 00:10:29,921 --> 00:10:31,464 I wanted to feel like I was wanted, 227 00:10:31,548 --> 00:10:34,134 and that, you know... 228 00:10:34,217 --> 00:10:35,468 I could still be loved. 229 00:10:35,552 --> 00:10:37,720 And then she met (beep). 230 00:10:37,804 --> 00:10:41,432 He loved and accepted her, and... 231 00:10:41,516 --> 00:10:44,936 Also fed her prescription drugs. 232 00:10:45,019 --> 00:10:49,649 ♪ 233 00:10:49,691 --> 00:10:51,734 And that's when everything changed. 234 00:10:51,818 --> 00:10:57,073 She went from having her photography business, to... 235 00:10:57,157 --> 00:10:58,741 Living on the streets. 236 00:10:58,825 --> 00:11:02,662 ♪ 237 00:11:02,745 --> 00:11:08,126 She used all her money on drugs. 238 00:11:08,209 --> 00:11:10,295 And the boys were eating from the food bank, 239 00:11:10,336 --> 00:11:12,130 if they were eating. 240 00:11:12,213 --> 00:11:15,800 Her relationship with her boyfriend turned abusive. 241 00:11:15,842 --> 00:11:17,010 She was scared to leave him. 242 00:11:17,093 --> 00:11:19,095 There was just no hope at that point, 243 00:11:19,179 --> 00:11:22,056 and, one weekend she took the kids to their 244 00:11:22,140 --> 00:11:27,145 respective fathers and did not pick them up. 245 00:11:27,228 --> 00:11:29,731 Said, "I do not want to be a mother right now. 246 00:11:29,814 --> 00:11:31,900 I do not want this responsibility. 247 00:11:31,983 --> 00:11:36,988 Nobody find me, just leave me alone". 248 00:11:37,030 --> 00:11:40,700 I finally did see her, in public. 249 00:11:40,783 --> 00:11:42,785 She had more than one purse, and a bag, 250 00:11:42,869 --> 00:11:46,623 and a backpack; that was the first time I knew 251 00:11:46,706 --> 00:11:49,626 they were out on the street. 252 00:11:49,709 --> 00:11:51,544 Chelan became... 253 00:11:51,628 --> 00:11:54,422 a ghost in less than two years. 254 00:11:54,505 --> 00:11:57,967 ♪ 255 00:11:58,051 --> 00:12:02,180 When (beep) went to jail, Chelan was alone on the street. 256 00:12:02,263 --> 00:12:04,474 And she didn't have anybody to get her the things that 257 00:12:04,515 --> 00:12:09,020 she needed to get high, so she started prostituting. 258 00:12:09,103 --> 00:12:12,148 For a date, I usually charge about 60, $70 259 00:12:12,190 --> 00:12:13,691 every 15 minutes. 260 00:12:13,775 --> 00:12:16,319 Some days I can make two, three hundred bucks... 261 00:12:16,402 --> 00:12:19,530 Which all goes to heroin. 262 00:12:19,614 --> 00:12:20,823 Hey. 263 00:12:20,907 --> 00:12:23,076 It's very dangerous to be a drug addict in Kamloops. 264 00:12:23,159 --> 00:12:25,328 People are dying right, left, and center. 265 00:12:25,411 --> 00:12:33,628 ♪ 266 00:12:33,670 --> 00:12:35,755 When I first started doing dates, 267 00:12:35,838 --> 00:12:39,759 I'd get people to walk on the other side of the street. 268 00:12:39,842 --> 00:12:42,053 Just keep track of cars, you know, 269 00:12:42,136 --> 00:12:46,015 'cause if you don't come back, you know... 270 00:12:46,099 --> 00:12:47,475 He's in jail, dude, for like a long time. 271 00:12:47,517 --> 00:12:48,643 And he's gonna be in there for like ‐ 272 00:12:48,685 --> 00:12:51,813 He's gonna probably go to the penitentiary. 273 00:12:51,854 --> 00:12:54,774 Can you... do a puff with me? 274 00:12:54,857 --> 00:12:56,693 I've got no money left. 275 00:12:56,776 --> 00:12:59,362 'Cause I want to give some money to my kids. 276 00:13:00,530 --> 00:13:02,407 Yeah, I've got three sons. 277 00:13:02,490 --> 00:13:12,458 ♪ 278 00:13:15,545 --> 00:13:17,964 If she continues on the path that she's on right now and 279 00:13:18,047 --> 00:13:20,925 hanging out with the people that I've seen her hang out with... 280 00:13:21,009 --> 00:13:23,136 ♪ 281 00:13:23,219 --> 00:13:28,057 She will end up dead or in jail. 282 00:13:33,855 --> 00:13:36,983 So, any big plans today? Just go, same old? 283 00:13:37,025 --> 00:13:38,318 Same old, same old. 284 00:13:38,359 --> 00:13:41,863 Right now I'm staying with Alesha, and... 285 00:13:41,946 --> 00:13:44,824 I, I appreciate what she's doing for me. 286 00:13:44,866 --> 00:13:47,201 But I, you know, I feel... 287 00:13:47,285 --> 00:13:49,495 Like I'm stressing her out a little bit. 288 00:13:49,579 --> 00:13:54,417 I'm just trying to figure out where to get some heroin. 289 00:13:54,500 --> 00:13:57,462 I have to start work at 11. I was late yesterday. 290 00:13:57,503 --> 00:13:58,963 Well, I'm ready to go whenever. 291 00:13:59,005 --> 00:14:01,924 All right, I'm good. 292 00:14:02,008 --> 00:14:03,384 Do you know where you're going there? 293 00:14:03,468 --> 00:14:04,469 Just... 294 00:14:04,510 --> 00:14:06,596 making a couple texts right now and see where 295 00:14:06,679 --> 00:14:09,640 people are at and where I can go. 296 00:14:09,682 --> 00:14:10,850 I don't know; I guess I don't like, 297 00:14:10,933 --> 00:14:12,435 I don't feel safe like just being 298 00:14:12,518 --> 00:14:13,811 out on the streets anymore. 299 00:14:13,853 --> 00:14:17,065 That's why I, I guess, come to her house often. 300 00:14:17,148 --> 00:14:18,649 I've just tried to be there for her, 301 00:14:18,733 --> 00:14:21,861 non‐judgmentally. Keep an eye on her. 302 00:14:21,944 --> 00:14:25,406 My involvement has definitely increased. 303 00:14:25,490 --> 00:14:26,532 I worry more. 304 00:14:26,616 --> 00:14:30,286 It's a fine line between enabling and for harm reduction. 305 00:14:30,370 --> 00:14:32,663 It's like, I want to help, but I also know 306 00:14:32,705 --> 00:14:34,248 that I can't make it easy for her. 307 00:14:38,878 --> 00:14:41,297 Oh, 100%, yeah. I know. 308 00:14:50,890 --> 00:14:53,935 Oh, 100%. 309 00:14:54,018 --> 00:14:55,895 Okay, have a good day. 310 00:14:55,978 --> 00:14:58,773 (Phone ringing) 311 00:14:58,856 --> 00:15:01,150 Hey, do you have any down on you? 312 00:15:01,234 --> 00:15:02,944 Yeah? 313 00:15:05,530 --> 00:15:08,157 Sweet. Okay, bye. 314 00:15:08,241 --> 00:15:11,327 (Groans) 315 00:15:11,411 --> 00:15:13,996 All right. 316 00:15:14,038 --> 00:15:16,541 (Sighs) (Beep)! 317 00:15:16,624 --> 00:15:21,921 ♪ 318 00:15:22,004 --> 00:15:24,215 (Whispers) This drives me mental. 319 00:15:24,298 --> 00:15:26,384 I've pulled my hair about before, like, 320 00:15:26,467 --> 00:15:29,512 literally pulled my hair out when I've had no heroin. 321 00:15:29,595 --> 00:15:33,933 The emotional pain that I start feeling is... 322 00:15:34,016 --> 00:15:36,144 Is unbearable. 323 00:15:36,227 --> 00:15:39,105 ♪ 324 00:15:39,188 --> 00:15:40,398 Ouch. 325 00:15:40,481 --> 00:15:45,236 ♪ 326 00:15:45,319 --> 00:15:47,280 I need to relax. 327 00:15:47,363 --> 00:15:53,786 ♪ 328 00:15:53,870 --> 00:15:55,329 (Beep) sakes. 329 00:15:55,371 --> 00:15:57,790 I'm really frustrated right now. 330 00:15:57,874 --> 00:15:59,834 (Sighs) 331 00:15:59,876 --> 00:16:02,795 I've had times when I can't hit a vein... 332 00:16:02,837 --> 00:16:05,673 Like, I'll get emotional. 333 00:16:05,756 --> 00:16:07,091 It's so frustrating. 334 00:16:07,175 --> 00:16:09,302 Especially if that's like all the heroin you have and 335 00:16:09,385 --> 00:16:11,345 you can't get it in you, and you're dope sick 336 00:16:11,429 --> 00:16:12,555 and you're just... 337 00:16:12,638 --> 00:16:14,932 You know, it's like frustrating. 338 00:16:15,016 --> 00:16:17,101 Like, everything would set me off. 339 00:16:17,185 --> 00:16:22,523 ♪ 340 00:16:22,607 --> 00:16:24,066 (Knocking) 341 00:16:27,528 --> 00:16:30,198 (Beep) sakes. 342 00:16:38,247 --> 00:16:39,874 Wait until you don't have to do this anymore. 343 00:16:39,957 --> 00:16:40,875 Oh, it'll be nice. 344 00:16:40,958 --> 00:16:42,168 Won't it? ‐ Yep. 345 00:16:42,251 --> 00:16:43,920 My dad was a severe alcoholic, 346 00:16:44,003 --> 00:16:46,380 our entire lives, until just recently. 347 00:16:46,464 --> 00:16:53,304 ♪ 348 00:16:53,387 --> 00:16:56,766 I'd like to see Chelan before I go into the hospital. 349 00:16:56,849 --> 00:16:58,184 It's a serious operation, like, 350 00:16:58,267 --> 00:17:00,144 it's major surgery. ‐ Yeah. 351 00:17:00,186 --> 00:17:04,023 And, there's always a chance that... 352 00:17:04,106 --> 00:17:05,816 You'll pass away. 353 00:17:05,858 --> 00:17:09,111 I haven't seen Chelan in almost a year. 354 00:17:09,195 --> 00:17:10,488 I've messaged her. 355 00:17:10,571 --> 00:17:14,200 It's like she avoids me because of the drugs. 356 00:17:14,283 --> 00:17:17,078 I've told other people, "If you see Chelan, 357 00:17:17,161 --> 00:17:18,913 you know, tell her she can come to my house. 358 00:17:18,996 --> 00:17:20,122 I'll feed her." 359 00:17:20,206 --> 00:17:21,207 I'll never turn my back on her; 360 00:17:21,290 --> 00:17:23,084 she's still my daughter. 361 00:17:23,167 --> 00:17:26,295 I had a huge resentment towards Chelan because the 362 00:17:26,379 --> 00:17:29,048 drugs started to come into play. 363 00:17:29,131 --> 00:17:31,300 I think now that my dad is sober, 364 00:17:31,384 --> 00:17:34,262 I'm just starting to let go of the resentment. 365 00:17:34,345 --> 00:17:36,889 Everybody deserves a second chance. 366 00:17:36,973 --> 00:17:38,307 Yep. 367 00:17:38,349 --> 00:17:39,850 Chelan knows that, that our dad 368 00:17:39,934 --> 00:17:42,228 needs to have a kidney transplant. 369 00:17:42,311 --> 00:17:44,647 He's not gonna survive much longer. 370 00:17:44,730 --> 00:17:47,525 We'll go for a walk and see if we can find her. 371 00:17:50,027 --> 00:17:52,780 Okay. 372 00:17:52,863 --> 00:17:55,324 It'll be good for you to see her. 373 00:17:55,408 --> 00:17:56,826 Yeah... 374 00:17:56,867 --> 00:17:58,619 I'm a little bit nervous. 375 00:17:58,703 --> 00:18:00,329 Now that my dad's sober, 376 00:18:00,371 --> 00:18:02,164 I think he makes more of an effort. 377 00:18:02,206 --> 00:18:04,709 I think he wants to be a grandad. 378 00:18:04,792 --> 00:18:07,712 And I think he wants to have his children around. 379 00:18:07,795 --> 00:18:10,965 And I think he's probably hurting that he missed out 380 00:18:11,048 --> 00:18:14,510 on a lot of our childhoods. 381 00:18:14,594 --> 00:18:15,761 Okay, wish us luck. 382 00:18:15,845 --> 00:18:18,889 I know they hang out down here. 383 00:18:18,973 --> 00:18:20,808 Nobody there. 384 00:18:23,227 --> 00:18:25,855 Hey! 385 00:18:25,938 --> 00:18:27,148 Hey, Sammy. 386 00:18:27,231 --> 00:18:29,317 What did you do to your hair? 387 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:31,027 Cut it off. ‐ It's purple! 388 00:18:31,110 --> 00:18:33,487 How are ya? ‐ I'm good, how are you? 389 00:18:33,529 --> 00:18:34,655 I'm good. 390 00:18:34,739 --> 00:18:35,823 Hi, Dad. ‐ Hi. 391 00:18:35,906 --> 00:18:37,575 How are you? 392 00:18:37,658 --> 00:18:39,994 ♪ 393 00:18:40,077 --> 00:18:42,288 You want to sit here? Huh? 394 00:18:42,371 --> 00:18:43,914 Yeah, we can we sit wherever you guys... 395 00:18:43,998 --> 00:18:44,999 Sit down. 396 00:18:45,041 --> 00:18:46,208 Want to go get a coffee or something, 397 00:18:46,292 --> 00:18:47,293 or do you want to just sit here? 398 00:18:47,335 --> 00:18:48,836 Yeah, yeah, let's go get a coffee. 399 00:18:48,919 --> 00:18:50,880 We're having a thing on Saturday. 400 00:18:50,963 --> 00:18:51,964 Yeah? 401 00:18:52,006 --> 00:18:54,091 So they wanted to have like a dinner... 402 00:18:54,175 --> 00:18:55,301 At my place. 403 00:18:55,343 --> 00:18:57,637 And have either Chinese, or whatever you like. 404 00:18:57,720 --> 00:18:59,430 Yeah? 405 00:18:59,513 --> 00:19:01,057 Well, do you guys want to give me like ten minutes and 406 00:19:01,140 --> 00:19:02,642 then I'll come and I'll talk with you guys? 407 00:19:02,725 --> 00:19:03,726 Yeah. ‐ Yeah? 408 00:19:03,809 --> 00:19:04,727 Yeah. ‐ Okay. 409 00:19:04,810 --> 00:19:06,395 We'll just walk down here. ‐ I'll be right back. 410 00:19:06,479 --> 00:19:12,318 ♪ 411 00:19:12,360 --> 00:19:16,447 That's my dad and my sister. Surprise! Oh, hey, guys! 412 00:19:16,530 --> 00:19:17,657 Yeah, like see them, I was like, 413 00:19:17,740 --> 00:19:19,200 ah, you guys just got to wait a second. 414 00:19:19,283 --> 00:19:22,161 I was like, I need to go do something back here. 415 00:19:22,244 --> 00:19:24,372 Can you give me a little bit more down? 416 00:19:24,455 --> 00:19:25,706 I'm going to make money right away. 417 00:19:25,790 --> 00:19:28,626 I promise I'll give you ‐ like I'll even show you. 418 00:19:28,668 --> 00:19:29,835 I've got a date. 419 00:19:34,548 --> 00:19:38,177 ♪ 420 00:19:38,260 --> 00:19:39,679 That's what matters to her right now, 421 00:19:39,762 --> 00:19:41,305 is her drugs. 422 00:19:41,347 --> 00:19:43,265 I've messaged her. 423 00:19:43,349 --> 00:19:45,142 I've told her Chelan, you know, 424 00:19:45,226 --> 00:19:48,062 you just dropped me out of your life. 425 00:19:48,145 --> 00:19:50,398 You know, your father. 426 00:19:50,481 --> 00:19:55,152 She goes, "Well, no, dad, I love you more than the world..." 427 00:19:55,236 --> 00:19:58,906 "But right now I'm running from life". 428 00:19:58,989 --> 00:20:00,533 Hello. 429 00:20:00,616 --> 00:20:08,416 ♪ 430 00:20:10,751 --> 00:20:11,961 Hello? ‐ Hey. 431 00:20:12,044 --> 00:20:13,671 Hi. ‐ Hi. 432 00:20:13,754 --> 00:20:19,844 So, I'm really tired right now and I'm just... 433 00:20:19,927 --> 00:20:21,846 I'm coming over. 434 00:20:21,929 --> 00:20:24,473 I, I feel pretty bad for my dad. 435 00:20:24,557 --> 00:20:27,059 I know my dad's not doing good, 436 00:20:27,143 --> 00:20:31,814 health‐wise, at all. So, him passing away is... 437 00:20:31,897 --> 00:20:35,276 It's a big, you know, chance. 438 00:20:35,359 --> 00:20:37,987 Chelan called and she said she was going to 439 00:20:38,070 --> 00:20:40,322 go over to the house here. ‐ Okay, good. 440 00:20:40,406 --> 00:20:43,617 ♪ 441 00:20:43,701 --> 00:20:45,786 Hey, how are you? ‐ I'm good, how are you? 442 00:20:45,870 --> 00:20:47,204 Good. 443 00:20:47,288 --> 00:20:49,290 I was happy Chelan showed up at my house; 444 00:20:49,373 --> 00:20:50,750 that means the world to me. 445 00:20:50,833 --> 00:20:52,960 Eat, eat, eat, eat. 446 00:20:53,002 --> 00:20:54,420 You're skinny. 447 00:20:54,503 --> 00:20:55,755 Usually almost every day I could... 448 00:20:55,838 --> 00:20:59,049 like, I could easily spend 100, 200 bucks. 449 00:20:59,133 --> 00:21:01,886 If I had the money to do it... 450 00:21:01,969 --> 00:21:03,012 Wow. 451 00:21:03,095 --> 00:21:04,180 How much money could you spend on alcohol? 452 00:21:04,263 --> 00:21:05,931 Yeah, dad, how much money? ‐ No, I know. 453 00:21:06,015 --> 00:21:07,433 Right, it's the same thing. If I went to the bar, 454 00:21:07,516 --> 00:21:08,809 if I drank every day at the bar... 455 00:21:08,893 --> 00:21:09,894 What's a 2‐6 cost? 456 00:21:09,977 --> 00:21:12,229 26 bucks, and that would last you a night, right? 457 00:21:12,313 --> 00:21:14,732 And then you would go to the bar and at, 458 00:21:14,815 --> 00:21:16,650 you know, what, six bucks a beer... 459 00:21:16,734 --> 00:21:21,322 You would be there for what, 'til, 'til close... 460 00:21:21,405 --> 00:21:24,116 But you can't turn back the hands of time. 461 00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:25,618 No, but you can change the hands. 462 00:21:25,701 --> 00:21:28,329 That's right; you can, you can... 463 00:21:28,412 --> 00:21:31,123 You can only look forward. 464 00:21:31,207 --> 00:21:32,958 My dad just... 465 00:21:33,042 --> 00:21:37,588 I don't think he ever really did what a father should do. 466 00:21:37,671 --> 00:21:40,466 Like, you know, you don't go spend all your money 467 00:21:40,549 --> 00:21:44,178 on alcohol and there's no food in the house, right. 468 00:21:44,261 --> 00:21:46,180 And like, I think those are things that 469 00:21:46,263 --> 00:21:47,890 I sort of see in myself. 470 00:21:51,477 --> 00:21:53,687 (Groans) 471 00:21:53,771 --> 00:21:55,022 Go. 472 00:22:01,779 --> 00:22:04,240 ♪ 473 00:22:04,323 --> 00:22:06,534 She in the bathroom? 474 00:22:08,577 --> 00:22:09,370 (Knocking) 475 00:22:09,453 --> 00:22:10,830 Yeah? ‐ You okay? 476 00:22:10,913 --> 00:22:12,957 Yeah, I'm okay. ‐ Okay. 477 00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:14,667 Just checking. 478 00:22:14,750 --> 00:22:24,677 ♪ 479 00:22:24,802 --> 00:22:34,770 ♪ 480 00:23:05,676 --> 00:23:07,094 (Groans) 481 00:23:07,177 --> 00:23:09,638 ♪ 482 00:23:09,722 --> 00:23:11,557 (Groans) 483 00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:18,230 ♪ 484 00:23:18,314 --> 00:23:20,941 (Groans) 485 00:23:21,025 --> 00:23:30,993 ♪ 486 00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:33,078 (Groans) 487 00:23:33,162 --> 00:23:43,088 ♪ 488 00:23:43,172 --> 00:23:53,140 ♪ 489 00:23:53,390 --> 00:23:55,851 (Beep), I'm just sweating balls here. 490 00:23:55,935 --> 00:24:05,903 ♪ 491 00:24:09,823 --> 00:24:11,408 Here she comes. 492 00:24:12,368 --> 00:24:15,704 (Beep), it's hot! ‐ It is hot. 493 00:24:15,788 --> 00:24:17,081 Where's dad? 494 00:24:17,164 --> 00:24:18,874 He... in the living room. 495 00:24:18,958 --> 00:24:20,584 Waiting for his dinner. 496 00:24:23,212 --> 00:24:25,297 Come sit in here, Chelan. ‐ Hm? 497 00:24:25,381 --> 00:24:28,968 Sit over here. Go ahead, Sammy. 498 00:24:29,009 --> 00:24:30,761 Sammy? 499 00:24:30,844 --> 00:24:32,930 You haven't been called that for a long time, eh? 500 00:24:33,013 --> 00:24:34,765 Hammy bear? ‐ (Groans) 501 00:24:34,848 --> 00:24:38,852 Haven't heard that for a long time. 502 00:24:38,936 --> 00:24:40,813 Hammy bear. 503 00:24:43,983 --> 00:24:48,570 ♪ 504 00:24:48,654 --> 00:24:53,117 I know, they smell good. 505 00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:54,827 They probably taste really good. 506 00:24:54,910 --> 00:24:58,414 ♪ 507 00:24:58,497 --> 00:25:00,249 (Grunts) 508 00:25:00,332 --> 00:25:03,836 ♪ 509 00:25:03,919 --> 00:25:06,088 It's quite the dinner table you got here, dad. 510 00:25:06,171 --> 00:25:08,173 Mhm. 511 00:25:08,257 --> 00:25:17,057 ♪ 512 00:25:17,141 --> 00:25:22,563 There's a restaurant... 513 00:25:22,646 --> 00:25:24,898 And they sell crepes. 514 00:25:24,982 --> 00:25:26,775 It's kind of losers. 515 00:25:26,859 --> 00:25:29,820 Not losers, that's not the right word. 516 00:25:29,862 --> 00:25:31,864 Ah... 517 00:25:31,947 --> 00:25:36,493 ♪ 518 00:25:36,577 --> 00:25:39,121 Like, I don't know. 519 00:25:39,204 --> 00:25:41,665 This big wrap with crepe, and it's just ‐ I don't know. 520 00:25:41,707 --> 00:25:44,710 And everything's falling out and... 521 00:25:44,793 --> 00:25:45,669 All right. 522 00:25:45,753 --> 00:25:51,050 (Sighs) I'm like really sweating here. 523 00:25:51,133 --> 00:25:53,427 Chelan's using heroin... 524 00:25:53,510 --> 00:25:58,223 And I couldn't, I couldn't be around it. 525 00:25:58,307 --> 00:26:02,895 My worst fear is that she's going to get the wrong heroin 526 00:26:02,978 --> 00:26:04,354 and it's gonna have fentanyl in it and 527 00:26:04,438 --> 00:26:06,273 she's gonna die. 528 00:26:06,356 --> 00:26:11,695 ♪ 529 00:26:12,529 --> 00:26:13,822 Hey. ‐ Mhm? 530 00:26:13,906 --> 00:26:15,282 You know you left all your stuff in the bathroom, right? 531 00:26:15,365 --> 00:26:16,325 Did I? ‐ Yeah. 532 00:26:16,408 --> 00:26:17,701 Where is it? 533 00:26:17,785 --> 00:26:20,204 On the counter and on the ‐ you just left it laying there. 534 00:26:20,287 --> 00:26:22,664 ♪ 535 00:26:22,706 --> 00:26:23,999 How did I just leave it laying there? 536 00:26:24,041 --> 00:26:24,833 I don't know. 537 00:26:24,875 --> 00:26:26,752 Didn't I put it back in my purse? 538 00:26:26,835 --> 00:26:31,924 ♪ 539 00:26:32,007 --> 00:26:34,093 Oh, (beep). 540 00:26:34,176 --> 00:26:36,512 I forgot I put all this stuff over here. 541 00:26:36,595 --> 00:26:38,472 Okay, I gotta go. ‐ Okay. 542 00:26:38,514 --> 00:26:40,182 It's too hard for me right now. 543 00:26:40,265 --> 00:26:42,601 Is it? ‐ Is that okay? 544 00:26:42,684 --> 00:26:43,811 Yeah, don't be too upset, Tasha. 545 00:26:43,894 --> 00:26:48,982 I am. It's really hard to see you like this. 546 00:26:49,024 --> 00:26:52,653 I've heard so many stories about what drugs do to ya... 547 00:26:52,694 --> 00:26:55,030 You know, and now I've seen it firsthand. 548 00:26:55,114 --> 00:26:57,699 I want to get my, my daughter back. 549 00:26:57,783 --> 00:27:07,709 ♪ 550 00:27:08,502 --> 00:27:09,962 ‐ Morning. l, good mor. 551 00:27:10,045 --> 00:27:10,629 Morning. 552 00:27:10,671 --> 00:27:11,922 My name is Maureen Brine, 553 00:27:12,005 --> 00:27:15,092 and I am the interventionist. 554 00:27:15,175 --> 00:27:17,136 So I'm here to really help you... 555 00:27:17,219 --> 00:27:20,639 To get ready to intervene on Chelan tomorrow. 556 00:27:20,722 --> 00:27:25,352 And this pre‐intervention day is your day. 557 00:27:25,477 --> 00:27:29,648 How do you think her addictions have affected you? 558 00:27:29,690 --> 00:27:32,109 She doesn't have ‐ she hasn't been a part of 559 00:27:32,192 --> 00:27:34,987 my family, so she hasn't had a chance to 560 00:27:35,028 --> 00:27:37,156 build a relationship with her niece. 561 00:27:37,197 --> 00:27:38,949 I would love to... 562 00:27:39,032 --> 00:27:41,076 For my daughter to have that aunt. 563 00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:45,873 Yeah, that would be great, wouldn't it? 564 00:27:45,998 --> 00:27:47,249 I want to see her get better, 565 00:27:47,332 --> 00:27:48,959 for herself, for her boys, for her family. 566 00:27:49,001 --> 00:27:50,752 'Cause she is a great mum. 567 00:27:50,836 --> 00:27:52,087 You know, you see her ‐ I see her now. 568 00:27:52,171 --> 00:27:53,797 I drive down the street. You wave to her or something 569 00:27:53,881 --> 00:27:54,882 and she doesn't even acknowledge you. 570 00:27:54,965 --> 00:27:56,800 Like she drops her head. She sees you, 571 00:27:56,884 --> 00:27:58,635 she just doesn't acknowledge you. 572 00:27:58,719 --> 00:28:00,470 She's just ‐ it's not her. ‐ Right, yeah. 573 00:28:00,554 --> 00:28:01,889 You know? 574 00:28:01,972 --> 00:28:04,808 I don't think she realized it was gonna get where it is now. 575 00:28:04,892 --> 00:28:06,101 I don't think anybody does when you're in that ‐ 576 00:28:06,185 --> 00:28:07,978 I don't think anyone wakes up one morning and goes, 577 00:28:08,061 --> 00:28:10,439 "Now I'm on the road to becoming a heroin addict," right. 578 00:28:10,522 --> 00:28:13,317 No, I think she went from zero to sixty really quick. 579 00:28:13,358 --> 00:28:14,318 You're right. 580 00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:16,236 And you gotta stay at sixty. ‐ You're right. 581 00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:18,614 What led her in this direction? 582 00:28:18,697 --> 00:28:22,659 In my opinion, Chelan has... 583 00:28:22,743 --> 00:28:24,745 Abandonment issues, I'd say. 584 00:28:24,828 --> 00:28:26,163 That's a good word. 585 00:28:26,205 --> 00:28:28,665 Has a fear of being alone, and just, 586 00:28:28,749 --> 00:28:32,878 you know, needing to be with someone in order to feel whole, 587 00:28:32,961 --> 00:28:36,006 or to have an illusion of feeling whole. 588 00:28:36,089 --> 00:28:40,802 And is there anyone here that she might point a finger at? 589 00:28:40,886 --> 00:28:43,347 Phil, you're right in the center there, Phil. 590 00:28:43,472 --> 00:28:45,057 Well, I, I don't know. 591 00:28:45,140 --> 00:28:47,643 I figured Chelan's addiction, 592 00:28:47,726 --> 00:28:50,187 she would get over it, and... 593 00:28:50,312 --> 00:28:52,606 I didn't think it was as serious as it ‐ 594 00:28:52,689 --> 00:28:55,234 as what I've come, come to learn. 595 00:28:55,317 --> 00:28:56,235 Yeah. 596 00:28:56,318 --> 00:28:57,569 You know, and now I've seen it firsthand. 597 00:28:57,653 --> 00:28:59,947 Well, having the attitude of, 'it's none of my business,' 598 00:29:00,030 --> 00:29:01,323 right... ‐ Well, I've always ‐ 599 00:29:01,406 --> 00:29:03,158 ..."She'll get over it," didn't help. 600 00:29:03,242 --> 00:29:06,954 I have my own demons. Not drugs, but... 601 00:29:07,037 --> 00:29:09,706 I was fighting with alcohol, 602 00:29:09,790 --> 00:29:11,667 drinking almost a 40‐pounder a day. 603 00:29:11,708 --> 00:29:13,794 Wow. ‐ By myself. 604 00:29:13,877 --> 00:29:15,587 By yourself, yeah. 605 00:29:15,671 --> 00:29:18,507 Did Chelan grow up with you drinking very heavily? 606 00:29:18,590 --> 00:29:21,009 At times, yes. ‐ Okay, yeah. 607 00:29:21,093 --> 00:29:23,637 So, that also makes you not available, right? 608 00:29:23,679 --> 00:29:24,972 Ah, yeah. 609 00:29:25,055 --> 00:29:27,516 So it may have impacted her life, too. 610 00:29:30,060 --> 00:29:31,186 Yep. ‐ That's hard. 611 00:29:31,270 --> 00:29:33,438 Hard as a dad to see your daughter that sick. 612 00:29:33,522 --> 00:29:36,275 Yep. ‐ Yeah. 613 00:29:36,358 --> 00:29:39,444 How do you guys feel about the fact that he's sitting here? 614 00:29:39,528 --> 00:29:40,779 It's great. ‐ It's great. 615 00:29:40,862 --> 00:29:42,114 Yeah. 616 00:29:42,197 --> 00:29:44,032 And I think Chelan would realize that, too. 617 00:29:44,116 --> 00:29:47,953 You know, I think that you owe your kids your recovery. 618 00:29:48,036 --> 00:29:49,955 Oh, I know that. ‐ Yeah, you owe your kids. 619 00:29:50,038 --> 00:29:51,206 All of them; not just one. 620 00:29:51,290 --> 00:29:52,833 Yeah, when you put it all together, 621 00:29:52,874 --> 00:29:55,168 there is a history of loss and abandonment. 622 00:29:55,252 --> 00:29:56,211 For sure. 623 00:29:56,295 --> 00:29:57,337 Right? ‐ Yeah. 624 00:29:57,421 --> 00:29:59,047 Some of what I would call the predisposing factors 625 00:29:59,131 --> 00:30:01,341 to her addiction, right... 626 00:30:01,425 --> 00:30:04,553 That, that kind of ruptures of connection, really. 627 00:30:04,636 --> 00:30:05,971 Mhm. 628 00:30:06,013 --> 00:30:08,765 And you know, that cycle of abandonment is continuing on 629 00:30:08,849 --> 00:30:11,685 because now her drug addiction has pulled her 630 00:30:11,768 --> 00:30:13,270 away from her own children. 631 00:30:13,353 --> 00:30:15,772 Yeah, well my, my brother and Chelan 632 00:30:15,856 --> 00:30:17,316 were together for quite some time. 633 00:30:17,357 --> 00:30:18,358 Yeah. 634 00:30:18,442 --> 00:30:20,944 And, Zayden lives in the house with me, and... 635 00:30:21,028 --> 00:30:25,115 I, I see how it affects him every single day. 636 00:30:25,198 --> 00:30:27,326 Well, you're seeing the effects on a little boy 637 00:30:27,409 --> 00:30:29,494 of not having his mum around. ‐ Yeah. 638 00:30:29,536 --> 00:30:33,415 Right, so, hopefully we can stop that cycle. 639 00:30:33,498 --> 00:30:34,750 So, she's been going to your house as 640 00:30:34,875 --> 00:30:36,001 kind of a safe house? 641 00:30:36,126 --> 00:30:37,502 At night, yeah. ‐ At night time. 642 00:30:37,586 --> 00:30:39,129 My rules are you can't be there during the day, 643 00:30:39,212 --> 00:30:40,464 really, unless it's, you know, 644 00:30:40,547 --> 00:30:41,631 something really urgent. 645 00:30:41,715 --> 00:30:45,135 I ask that she don't contact me later than eleven if she ‐ 646 00:30:45,177 --> 00:30:46,553 If she's coming over. ‐ Coming over. 647 00:30:46,678 --> 00:30:48,764 Right. So you're providing a safe haven for her. 648 00:30:48,847 --> 00:30:50,098 Yeah, and that, for me, is hard. 649 00:30:50,182 --> 00:30:53,143 It's a fine line between enabling and harm reduction. 650 00:30:53,185 --> 00:30:55,437 That's a tough line to walk, right. 651 00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:58,148 And I think that the distinction is that 652 00:30:58,231 --> 00:31:00,192 she's sick, not bad. ‐ Yes. 653 00:31:00,275 --> 00:31:02,652 And so she maybe gets that you get that, right? 654 00:31:02,694 --> 00:31:03,904 Yes. 655 00:31:03,987 --> 00:31:07,324 So I want your letters to begin with whatever 656 00:31:07,449 --> 00:31:09,659 you want to say about your love for her. 657 00:31:09,701 --> 00:31:12,954 The next piece is that you need to tell her about 658 00:31:13,038 --> 00:31:15,082 how the addiction has impacted you, 659 00:31:15,165 --> 00:31:18,335 without shaming or blaming her. 660 00:31:18,460 --> 00:31:20,796 Then the third part is, of course, 661 00:31:20,837 --> 00:31:23,757 what you are prepared to do. 662 00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:26,927 You need to be really clear that you need to 663 00:31:27,010 --> 00:31:30,222 save yourself if she won't save herself. 664 00:31:30,305 --> 00:31:31,348 Mhm. 665 00:31:31,431 --> 00:31:34,142 An intervention is only as strong as the bottom lines. 666 00:31:34,184 --> 00:31:36,061 If you can't follow through with it, 667 00:31:36,144 --> 00:31:39,856 do not write it down. 668 00:31:39,940 --> 00:31:41,191 It's all right. 669 00:31:41,274 --> 00:31:43,318 And in fact, I like to say, if she should 670 00:31:43,402 --> 00:31:46,947 turn us down tomorrow, the intervention's still on; 671 00:31:47,030 --> 00:31:54,162 it's not over. It's just beginning. 672 00:31:55,872 --> 00:31:58,166 Good morning. ‐ You guys are ready. 673 00:31:58,250 --> 00:32:00,377 The rest is going to be up to her. 674 00:32:00,460 --> 00:32:06,633 ♪ 675 00:32:06,758 --> 00:32:10,095 This is a scary thing to do, but I think when she looks 676 00:32:10,178 --> 00:32:12,139 at all the people that love her... 677 00:32:12,222 --> 00:32:14,182 That's gonna shine through. 678 00:32:14,266 --> 00:32:16,309 ♪ 679 00:32:16,393 --> 00:32:18,311 (Gasps) 680 00:32:18,353 --> 00:32:19,855 Oh boy... 681 00:32:19,938 --> 00:32:25,986 ♪ 682 00:32:26,111 --> 00:32:27,612 Hi, Chelan. 683 00:32:27,696 --> 00:32:31,867 ♪ 684 00:32:31,950 --> 00:32:32,993 Come on in. ‐ Hi. 685 00:32:33,118 --> 00:32:34,744 I'm Maureen. ‐ Hi, Maureen. 686 00:32:34,870 --> 00:32:37,289 And this is your intervention. 687 00:32:37,372 --> 00:32:41,460 You're amongst people that love you very much, okay. 688 00:32:41,543 --> 00:32:46,131 (Whispers) Love you. ‐ I love you, too. 689 00:32:46,256 --> 00:32:48,884 So, everybody has written you a letter, 690 00:32:48,967 --> 00:32:53,138 and, all I really want from you is to just sit and listen. 691 00:32:53,221 --> 00:32:55,432 And at the end, I'm gonna give you a chance to talk. 692 00:32:55,515 --> 00:32:56,641 Okay. ‐ Okay? 693 00:32:56,683 --> 00:32:58,143 Yeah. 694 00:32:58,226 --> 00:32:59,644 I want to let you hold onto this. 695 00:32:59,728 --> 00:33:00,896 Oh, thank you, Karli. 696 00:33:00,979 --> 00:33:02,606 Zayden sleeps with it every night. 697 00:33:02,689 --> 00:33:04,107 Yeah. 698 00:33:08,195 --> 00:33:11,573 Chelan, unfortunately, the lifestyle you have chosen 699 00:33:11,656 --> 00:33:14,159 has steered you away in the opposite directions of 700 00:33:14,284 --> 00:33:18,163 your three amazing boys. 701 00:33:18,205 --> 00:33:20,207 Zayden often asks about you and 702 00:33:20,290 --> 00:33:22,584 says he misses you all the time. 703 00:33:22,667 --> 00:33:25,462 It breaks our heart hearing Zayden say he just wants and 704 00:33:25,545 --> 00:33:28,590 wishes he could hold you and cuddle you again. 705 00:33:37,724 --> 00:33:39,643 Chelan, I'm here today to make sure you know 706 00:33:39,768 --> 00:33:43,021 I love you and always will. 707 00:33:43,104 --> 00:33:45,440 I need you to be part of my family again. 708 00:33:45,524 --> 00:33:49,027 I need my son... 709 00:33:49,110 --> 00:33:51,112 To have his aunt Chelan. 710 00:33:51,196 --> 00:33:54,115 I need my sister back as well. 711 00:33:55,825 --> 00:33:59,371 But your addiction has not made that possible. 712 00:33:59,496 --> 00:34:03,667 Today you are being given a gift to get better, Chelan. 713 00:34:03,750 --> 00:34:05,210 To get Chelan back. 714 00:34:05,293 --> 00:34:08,255 To get her boys and her family back. 715 00:34:11,091 --> 00:34:14,177 Chelan... (Sighs) 716 00:34:14,261 --> 00:34:16,513 Can I hold your hand? ‐ Mhm. 717 00:34:19,432 --> 00:34:22,519 I'm here today because you're my sister and I love you. 718 00:34:22,602 --> 00:34:24,229 It kills me to see and hear about 719 00:34:24,312 --> 00:34:27,732 how your life has taken this wrong turn. 720 00:34:27,816 --> 00:34:30,402 (Sighs) 721 00:34:30,527 --> 00:34:32,404 I wish we would have had a better chance 722 00:34:32,487 --> 00:34:35,782 to build a stronger relationship. 723 00:34:35,865 --> 00:34:39,661 I feel dad's addiction took me down a different road. 724 00:34:39,703 --> 00:34:43,123 As I got older, I walked away from everything in my life. 725 00:34:43,206 --> 00:34:46,001 Leaving everyone behind. 726 00:34:46,084 --> 00:34:48,503 When I felt like I was strong enough to rebuild 727 00:34:48,587 --> 00:34:50,797 some relationships, I reached out to you. 728 00:34:50,839 --> 00:34:53,800 And we were slowly starting to build a relationship. 729 00:34:53,883 --> 00:34:57,262 Our kids were slowly starting to get to know each other. 730 00:34:57,345 --> 00:34:59,472 I was getting to know my sister. 731 00:34:59,598 --> 00:35:03,435 ♪ 732 00:35:03,518 --> 00:35:07,480 And how your family was your world. 733 00:35:07,564 --> 00:35:13,028 In a very short time, it felt like it was gone. 734 00:35:13,111 --> 00:35:14,821 And so were you. 735 00:35:14,946 --> 00:35:17,699 And I needed to end that relationship because I was 736 00:35:17,782 --> 00:35:20,702 unable to allow that to be a part of my life. 737 00:35:20,785 --> 00:35:23,663 I'm sorry I walked away and I did not try to be 738 00:35:23,705 --> 00:35:25,624 a better big sister. 739 00:35:25,707 --> 00:35:31,129 ♪ 740 00:35:31,212 --> 00:35:35,842 (Sighs) 741 00:35:35,925 --> 00:35:39,304 Chelan... 742 00:35:39,429 --> 00:35:41,348 It's okay, Phil. 743 00:35:44,351 --> 00:35:47,854 First thing I do is check the news to make sure 744 00:35:47,979 --> 00:35:50,231 you're not the people that have died from overdose 745 00:35:50,315 --> 00:35:53,693 overnight in Kamloops. 746 00:35:53,777 --> 00:36:00,283 I'm here because I love you and don't want to lose you. 747 00:36:00,367 --> 00:36:02,452 When you came for dinner on Saturday, 748 00:36:02,535 --> 00:36:05,330 I didn't know how bad your addiction was. 749 00:36:05,372 --> 00:36:08,500 It broke my heart to see you like you were. 750 00:36:08,541 --> 00:36:11,753 I know my drinking has affected you. 751 00:36:11,836 --> 00:36:13,088 I'm truly sorry for the ‐ 752 00:36:13,171 --> 00:36:16,508 any damage that it has caused. 753 00:36:16,591 --> 00:36:18,093 I cannot make up for yesterday, 754 00:36:18,176 --> 00:36:22,222 but I can make up for the future. 755 00:36:22,305 --> 00:36:24,182 And I'm sorry, Chelan. 756 00:36:24,265 --> 00:36:25,809 I know, dad. 757 00:36:25,850 --> 00:36:27,477 So, do you have a bottom line for your daughter, Phil, 758 00:36:27,519 --> 00:36:30,188 if she should not...? ‐ Yes, I do. 759 00:36:30,271 --> 00:36:33,525 My bottom line is, Chelan... 760 00:36:33,650 --> 00:36:35,318 I really don't want to close my door, 761 00:36:35,402 --> 00:36:37,362 but I will have to. 762 00:36:37,487 --> 00:36:40,240 That it would really hurt you to have to do that. 763 00:36:40,323 --> 00:36:42,325 Yes, it would ‐ it would really hurt me to 764 00:36:42,367 --> 00:36:45,995 have to close my door on my daughter. 765 00:36:46,037 --> 00:36:47,664 So it's my job today, Chelan, 766 00:36:47,706 --> 00:36:49,916 to ask you whether or not you're ready to accept 767 00:36:49,999 --> 00:36:58,133 help for your addictions? 768 00:36:58,174 --> 00:36:59,426 Yeah, I'm ready. 769 00:36:59,509 --> 00:37:00,677 Are you ready? ‐ Oh, yes. 770 00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:03,722 I'm more than ready. ‐ You're more than ready. 771 00:37:03,805 --> 00:37:04,681 I'm more than ready. 772 00:37:04,764 --> 00:37:06,307 Thank you. ‐ You're welcome. 773 00:37:06,349 --> 00:37:08,476 Thank you for saying yes. 774 00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:13,314 ♪ 775 00:37:13,356 --> 00:37:17,152 I love you. ‐ I love you, too. 776 00:37:17,193 --> 00:37:18,153 You can get better. 777 00:37:18,236 --> 00:37:19,446 I'm fighting my own additions; 778 00:37:19,529 --> 00:37:22,449 we can fight them together. 779 00:37:22,532 --> 00:37:25,243 We'll climb the stairs together. 780 00:37:25,368 --> 00:37:28,788 Bye, dad. I love you. 781 00:37:28,872 --> 00:37:30,957 ♪ 782 00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:32,000 Love you! ‐ Love you, Chelan! 783 00:37:32,083 --> 00:37:34,836 We love you, Chelan. You'll do good, Chelan. 784 00:37:34,919 --> 00:37:36,254 Bye! ‐ Bye, Chelan! 785 00:37:36,337 --> 00:37:37,130 Love you! ‐ Love you! 786 00:37:37,172 --> 00:37:38,757 Love you, Chelan! ‐ Bye. 787 00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:40,467 Bye. 788 00:37:40,592 --> 00:37:41,718 It's gonna get better. 789 00:37:41,801 --> 00:37:43,970 It's gonna get a lot better. ‐ Yeah. 790 00:37:44,053 --> 00:37:54,022 ♪ 791 00:37:54,856 --> 00:37:56,483 Sure am. 792 00:37:56,566 --> 00:37:58,193 Welcome to the Thorpe Recovery Centre. 793 00:37:58,276 --> 00:37:59,486 Hi. ‐ Hi. 794 00:37:59,569 --> 00:38:01,905 For Chelan, right now, the challenges for her during 795 00:38:01,988 --> 00:38:05,450 her detox is going to get through the withdrawal. 796 00:38:05,533 --> 00:38:07,994 When we're looking at this drug that she's been using, 797 00:38:08,036 --> 00:38:09,245 it's a hard drug. 798 00:38:09,370 --> 00:38:11,247 It's really difficult for withdrawal. 799 00:38:11,331 --> 00:38:13,958 Cold turkey, we would lose her. 800 00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:14,709 Absolutely. 801 00:38:14,793 --> 00:38:16,169 The nurses are gonna go through a 802 00:38:16,252 --> 00:38:18,213 withdrawal protocol with her. 803 00:38:18,338 --> 00:38:20,715 Based on that, that's when a decision is made 804 00:38:20,799 --> 00:38:23,051 as to what medication she'll get. 805 00:38:23,134 --> 00:38:25,303 We're gonna try to set up something so that she will 806 00:38:25,386 --> 00:38:28,223 be able to interact with her kids at a safe, 807 00:38:28,306 --> 00:38:30,225 therapeutic level here for her, 808 00:38:30,308 --> 00:38:33,520 and for them. 809 00:38:33,603 --> 00:38:43,571 ♪ 810 00:38:47,450 --> 00:38:50,703 I took off these foggy glasses and I can see again, 811 00:38:50,829 --> 00:38:53,039 and I don't think I realized... 812 00:38:53,164 --> 00:38:54,666 The beautiful world I lived in. 813 00:38:54,749 --> 00:38:57,418 I took it all for granted. 814 00:38:57,502 --> 00:38:59,462 I think one of her greatest break throughs was, 815 00:38:59,546 --> 00:39:01,631 "I'm not that person anymore," and 816 00:39:01,673 --> 00:39:04,884 it was a surprise for her. "I'm not that person". 817 00:39:04,968 --> 00:39:07,762 I think she knew who she was before she came here. 818 00:39:07,846 --> 00:39:10,265 I think she just lost connection with that. 819 00:39:10,348 --> 00:39:12,809 But, it ‐ I think it was evident that she 820 00:39:12,892 --> 00:39:16,271 reconnected with who she knew she was. 821 00:39:16,354 --> 00:39:19,148 ♪ 822 00:39:19,232 --> 00:39:21,526 (Screams & Laughs) 823 00:39:21,609 --> 00:39:23,945 I wake up and I'm happy, and I'm joyful, 824 00:39:24,028 --> 00:39:29,826 and I feel good, and I don't need substances. 825 00:39:29,909 --> 00:39:30,994 (Laughs) 826 00:39:31,077 --> 00:39:32,829 Sometimes, I really had to keep reminding myself like, 827 00:39:32,871 --> 00:39:34,455 "I am not a drug addict anymore. 828 00:39:34,539 --> 00:39:37,792 I am not a drug addict anymore". 829 00:39:37,876 --> 00:39:39,210 I mean, it's... 830 00:39:39,335 --> 00:39:40,461 it's a beautiful feeling. 831 00:39:40,503 --> 00:39:41,796 It was emotional seeing her just... 832 00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:43,840 you know, seeing how healthy she was. 833 00:39:43,923 --> 00:39:47,135 It wasn't the same person she was 99 days ago. 834 00:39:47,176 --> 00:39:48,678 I've met so many friends. 835 00:39:48,761 --> 00:39:51,306 You look happy. ‐ Do I look happy? 836 00:39:51,431 --> 00:39:53,308 You look so good. 837 00:39:53,349 --> 00:39:54,392 Sky's the limit. 838 00:39:54,475 --> 00:39:55,810 I mean, she can do whatever she wants. 839 00:39:55,894 --> 00:39:58,313 There is no holding her back and I think she realizes that, 840 00:39:58,396 --> 00:40:00,315 so to be there and to see it, 841 00:40:00,398 --> 00:40:02,984 and experience it with her, is, is huge. 842 00:40:03,109 --> 00:40:06,195 I'm so excited. Like, I'm so excited, just... 843 00:40:06,321 --> 00:40:08,865 To live again, like, oh my God. 844 00:40:08,948 --> 00:40:12,076 When Chelan arrived, she was quite desperate 845 00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:14,370 to have a different way of life. 846 00:40:14,454 --> 00:40:16,915 She lost connection with who she was, 847 00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:21,628 but I think she got reconnected with the real Chelan. 848 00:40:21,711 --> 00:40:23,129 You know, Chelan the mom. 849 00:40:23,171 --> 00:40:25,798 You know, she got in touch with that quite quickly. 850 00:40:25,882 --> 00:40:27,383 Almost 100 days, that's awesome. 851 00:40:27,508 --> 00:40:29,135 Yeah. ‐ That's amazing. 852 00:40:29,218 --> 00:40:30,303 I know. 853 00:40:30,345 --> 00:40:32,639 It's gonna be a journey for all of us to, to go on. 854 00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:34,807 Learning to love and live, 855 00:40:34,849 --> 00:40:37,268 and be with each other, you know... 856 00:40:37,352 --> 00:40:38,311 In a whole different way. 857 00:40:38,353 --> 00:40:40,855 In a whole different light and way. 858 00:40:40,939 --> 00:40:44,025 This journey's, it's just beginning. 859 00:40:44,108 --> 00:40:46,569 It's gonna be good. ‐ It's gonna be good. 860 00:40:46,694 --> 00:40:48,196 Bye, Debbie. ‐ It was a pleasure. 861 00:40:48,279 --> 00:40:49,405 I love you! 862 00:40:49,489 --> 00:40:51,783 Do great, because you are, okay? 863 00:40:51,866 --> 00:40:53,409 Okay, yeah. ‐ Love you. 864 00:40:53,534 --> 00:40:54,827 Love you, too. 865 00:40:54,869 --> 00:40:57,121 A lot of people want to have this chance to come and 866 00:40:57,205 --> 00:41:01,376 get better, and I was granted with it, so, like, 867 00:41:01,459 --> 00:41:02,961 I wanna, I wanna make the best of this. 868 00:41:03,044 --> 00:41:04,879 I don't want to have something like this given 869 00:41:04,963 --> 00:41:07,131 to me and then I just throw it away. 870 00:41:07,215 --> 00:41:11,260 I mean, I gotta take this and do something 871 00:41:11,344 --> 00:41:12,971 that's amazing with it. 872 00:41:13,054 --> 00:41:23,022 ♪ 873 00:41:23,106 --> 00:41:33,074 ♪ 62075

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