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(LAUGHS) 6 00:00:19,520 --> 00:00:23,200 'I know his films by heart, I've seen them so many times.' 7 00:00:23,200 --> 00:00:25,560 He's chatting the policeman's wife up. 8 00:00:25,560 --> 00:00:28,480 'They are as funny to me now as when I first saw them.' 9 00:00:28,480 --> 00:00:32,200 Look at this brilliant moment when the hands get swapped. 10 00:00:34,440 --> 00:00:37,120 The policeman grabs him. 11 00:00:37,120 --> 00:00:39,120 (CHUCKLES) 12 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:49,680 'As a comedy writer and director, 13 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:52,440 I can see what brilliant technique he had. 14 00:00:52,440 --> 00:00:56,120 But I've always thought that there was more to Chaplin than this. 15 00:00:56,120 --> 00:01:01,560 To me he's the greatest comic genius of the 20th century.' 16 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:03,520 It's just genius. 17 00:01:03,520 --> 00:01:08,080 'He went from the workhouse to being the most famous man on the planet. 18 00:01:08,080 --> 00:01:13,520 He made a staggering 82 films in total, spanning a period of 53 years. 19 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:18,600 I have been given access to a wealth of Chaplin home movies 20 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:20,560 and personal archive, 21 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:25,320 which gives a new and powerful insight into this driven character. 22 00:01:25,320 --> 00:01:27,480 I can see his flaws. 23 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:30,240 His private life was mired in controversy. 24 00:01:30,240 --> 00:01:35,280 But it never got in the way of the unceasing flow of ideas and films 25 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:37,480 that came out of him. 26 00:01:37,480 --> 00:01:41,840 This is the Chaplin I want to go in search of.' 27 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:11,680 "This was the London of my childhood. 28 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:14,560 Of my moods and awakenings. 29 00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:17,840 Memories of Lambeth in the spring, 30 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:22,040 of riding with Mother on top of a horse bus, 31 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:25,960 of melancholy Sundays and pale-faced parents 32 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:30,360 and their children escorting toy windmills and coloured balloons 33 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:32,400 over Westminster Bridge. 34 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:35,440 And the maternal penny steamers 35 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:39,360 that softly lowered their funnels as they glided under it." 36 00:02:42,240 --> 00:02:46,960 "From such trivia I believe my soul was born." 37 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:53,120 'For me, the key to Chaplin's art is in his extraordinary childhood. 38 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:55,840 What happened in his first ten years. 39 00:02:55,840 --> 00:02:59,560 Incredibly, there's no official record 40 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:03,320 of the birth of one of London's most famous sons. 41 00:03:03,320 --> 00:03:07,400 But Chaplin was convinced he was born in 1889, 42 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:11,160 not far from East Street Market in South London.' 43 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:17,000 Charlie Chaplin's mother Hannah and his father Charles Chaplin 44 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:20,400 were both singers in the Victorian music halls. 45 00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:24,720 They could be found in every city and large town throughout the country. 46 00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:47,040 All the programmes to us now are just so lovely to look at. Yes. 47 00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:50,880 I like The Musical Macaronis. (LAUGHS) 48 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:52,760 "The Musical Macaronis. 49 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:55,640 This marvellous party of Viennese musicians 50 00:03:55,640 --> 00:03:59,600 play upon the most extraordinary variety of instruments 51 00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:02,280 ever seen in this country." 52 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:04,760 What was so wonderful in those days of course 53 00:04:04,760 --> 00:04:07,400 was that when you were an act in the music hall 54 00:04:07,400 --> 00:04:10,360 there were so many other acts that you saw. 55 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:14,160 You had to wait in the wings and watch everybody else. 56 00:04:14,160 --> 00:04:17,360 So you watched the acrobats and the singers and the clowns 57 00:04:17,360 --> 00:04:19,480 and the...everything. 58 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:22,800 This is one of our pieces of sheet music with Charlie's dad, 59 00:04:22,800 --> 00:04:24,840 Charles senior. Yeah. 60 00:04:24,840 --> 00:04:29,280 "I love to meet with dear old pals, wherever it may be. 61 00:04:29,280 --> 00:04:34,040 I like a song, a pipe, a glass in jovial company." 62 00:04:40,320 --> 00:04:45,320 'Charles Chaplin Sr liked a glass in jovial company so much 63 00:04:45,320 --> 00:04:48,360 he became an alcoholic, and the marriage fell apart. 64 00:04:51,320 --> 00:04:55,360 Hannah Chaplin found herself bringing up three-year-old Charlie 65 00:04:55,360 --> 00:04:57,840 and his brother Sydney on her own.' 66 00:04:57,840 --> 00:05:02,560 Her work on the stage dried up as her singing voice faltered. 67 00:05:02,560 --> 00:05:04,640 One particular night when it failed 68 00:05:04,640 --> 00:05:09,200 she was booed off at a rowdy theatre in Aldershot. 69 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:14,560 Charlie, only six at the time, went onstage, sang a popular song, 70 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:17,360 and was showered with applause and coins. 71 00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:19,680 As he said in his autobiography, 72 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:22,640 "That night was my first appearance on the stage 73 00:05:22,640 --> 00:05:24,440 and Mother's last." 74 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:29,400 "When the fates deal in human destiny 75 00:05:29,400 --> 00:05:32,240 they heed neither pity nor justice. 76 00:05:32,240 --> 00:05:34,280 Thus they dealt with Mother. 77 00:05:34,280 --> 00:05:37,840 She never regained her voice. 78 00:05:37,840 --> 00:05:39,840 As autumn turns to winter, 79 00:05:39,840 --> 00:05:43,720 so our circumstances turned from bad to worse." 80 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:49,760 'The inevitable happened. 81 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:52,800 Hannah and the children were temporarily forced into 82 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:56,360 the Lambeth workhouse. Charlie was only nine.' 83 00:05:58,440 --> 00:06:02,240 "On the doleful day I didn't realise what was happening 84 00:06:02,240 --> 00:06:05,440 until we actually entered the workhouse gate. 85 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:09,440 For there we were made to separate, 86 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:12,400 Mother going in one direction to the women's ward 87 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:15,400 and we in another to the children's." 88 00:06:21,160 --> 00:06:25,400 "Sydney and I began to weep, which made Mother weep, 89 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:29,560 and large tears began to run down her cheeks." 90 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:42,800 'Worse was to follow for the Chaplins.' 91 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:47,760 "When I reached Pownall Terrace 92 00:06:47,760 --> 00:06:51,160 I was stopped at the gate by some children of the neighbourhood. 93 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:54,920 'Your mother's gone insane', said a little girl. 94 00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:58,840 The words were like a slap in the face." 95 00:06:59,800 --> 00:07:03,200 'Hannah was confined for a while to an asylum. 96 00:07:03,200 --> 00:07:07,160 Charlie went to live with his father until his mother was discharged.' 97 00:07:07,160 --> 00:07:12,160 His first ten years were hell. The very fact that he survived it 98 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:16,240 showed that there was something very extraordinary in the man. 99 00:07:16,240 --> 00:07:19,200 It was not that he just experienced poverty, 100 00:07:19,200 --> 00:07:21,560 but he saw an incredible amount of life. 101 00:07:21,560 --> 00:07:24,680 He saw drunkenness, he saw madness, he saw death, 102 00:07:24,680 --> 00:07:30,160 he saw homelessness, hunger, everything. 103 00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:34,600 And instead of just laying down and dying like most kids would do, 104 00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:36,760 he somehow absorbed all this. 105 00:07:36,760 --> 00:07:40,080 And then when he came to the point where he expressed himself 106 00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:43,680 as an artist, there was all this inside him which he had to express. 107 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:09,320 Did your father talk about his childhood? 108 00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:11,360 Yes, he talked about his childhood. 109 00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:13,440 He... 110 00:08:13,440 --> 00:08:17,240 He did...he did talk about the poverty. 111 00:08:17,240 --> 00:08:20,040 And, you know, having nothing. 112 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:24,840 And being hungry and only having an orange at Christmas. 113 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:28,680 He didn't like Christmas, because he'd see all the... 114 00:08:28,680 --> 00:08:32,440 My mother showered us with presents. She loved the whole ceremony. 115 00:08:32,440 --> 00:08:35,080 But my father was always... he was a bit reticent. 116 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:37,520 It reminded him of his childhood. 117 00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:49,440 'All this heartbreak and misery 118 00:08:49,440 --> 00:08:52,760 would be enough to break the spirit of most people. 119 00:08:52,760 --> 00:08:56,600 But in amongst the sheer hardship of Charlie's early life 120 00:08:56,600 --> 00:09:01,040 he found he could make people laugh. 121 00:09:01,040 --> 00:09:03,760 Outside the pub his father drank in 122 00:09:03,760 --> 00:09:06,640 there was an old man who looked after the horses. 123 00:09:06,640 --> 00:09:10,080 Charlie would imitate his walk.' 124 00:09:10,080 --> 00:09:12,520 "When I showed my mother how Rummy walked, 125 00:09:12,520 --> 00:09:14,440 she begged me to stop 126 00:09:14,440 --> 00:09:17,800 because it was cruel to imitate a misfortune like that. 127 00:09:17,800 --> 00:09:22,920 But she pleaded while she had her apron stuffed into her mouth. 128 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:27,320 Then she went into the pantry and giggled for ten minutes. 129 00:09:27,320 --> 00:09:30,800 Day after day I cultivated that walk. 130 00:09:30,800 --> 00:09:33,280 It became an obsession. 131 00:09:33,280 --> 00:09:36,880 Whenever I pulled it, I was sure of a laugh." 132 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:45,360 Chaplin's walk is his signature. 133 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:47,960 And he makes it look so simple. 134 00:09:47,960 --> 00:09:50,280 But it's damn difficult to do. 135 00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:11,160 'Charlie's immense drive, along with his undoubted talent, 136 00:10:11,160 --> 00:10:13,240 got him his first break. 137 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:15,760 He registered with a theatrical agency 138 00:10:15,760 --> 00:10:19,640 and got a part in a 1903 Sherlock Holmes drama. 139 00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:21,720 He was 14.' 140 00:10:21,720 --> 00:10:26,480 Here we have copies of his very first reviews 141 00:10:26,480 --> 00:10:29,400 when he was in Sherlock Holmes. 142 00:10:29,400 --> 00:10:32,080 "One of the brightest bits of acting in the play 143 00:10:32,080 --> 00:10:37,040 was given by Mr Charles Chaplin, who as Billy, Sherlock Holmes' page boy, 144 00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:41,560 displayed immense activity as well as dramatic appreciation." 145 00:10:41,560 --> 00:10:44,080 (CHUCKLES) Then there's the last page there. 146 00:10:44,080 --> 00:10:47,720 "Master Chaz Chaplin is..." 147 00:10:47,720 --> 00:10:51,800 "..decidedly clever." (CHUCKLES) 148 00:10:55,240 --> 00:10:59,240 "I had suddenly left behind a life of poverty 149 00:10:59,240 --> 00:11:02,680 and was entering a long-desired dream. 150 00:11:02,680 --> 00:11:07,600 A dream my mother had often spoken about, had revelled in. 151 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:10,920 I was to become an actor." 152 00:11:10,920 --> 00:11:17,520 'In 1908, Charlie joined the most successful comedy company of the era, 153 00:11:17,520 --> 00:11:20,280 Fred Karno's Speechless Comedians. 154 00:11:20,280 --> 00:11:23,400 Two years later, he was a leading player. 155 00:11:23,400 --> 00:11:25,520 Fred Karno was obviously a brute. 156 00:11:25,520 --> 00:11:28,160 He ill-treated his artists terribly. 157 00:11:28,160 --> 00:11:31,520 But also a genius at producing comedy. 158 00:11:31,520 --> 00:11:35,920 He always used to like to have a grotesque piece of action going on 159 00:11:35,920 --> 00:11:40,640 but have an elegant 18th century minuet or something going with it! 160 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:46,440 And he saw this contrast between the comic and the pathetic. 161 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:49,520 Chaplin acknowledges he learnt a lot from that. 162 00:11:49,520 --> 00:11:54,240 I found a review from about 1908 when he was on the music hall 163 00:11:54,240 --> 00:11:56,280 saying he's a genius. 164 00:11:57,840 --> 00:12:00,440 Chaplin learnt from watching everybody. 165 00:12:00,440 --> 00:12:02,520 From watching people in the street. 166 00:12:02,520 --> 00:12:05,600 And he spent his life in the theatres when he was little, 167 00:12:05,600 --> 00:12:08,240 because he was waiting for his mother or his father, 168 00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:10,600 occasionally his father, mostly his mother. 169 00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:15,800 And so he would have learnt from just watching how everybody did it. 170 00:12:15,800 --> 00:12:18,760 And then when he was himself in theatrical troupes 171 00:12:18,760 --> 00:12:21,720 he practised, rehearsed, rehearsed, rehearsed. 172 00:12:21,720 --> 00:12:25,280 'By now Chaplin was 21 173 00:12:25,280 --> 00:12:28,360 and was looking for a bigger stage for his talents.' 174 00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:34,320 "I was up at six in the morning. 175 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:36,640 Therefore I did not bother to wake Sydney, 176 00:12:36,640 --> 00:12:39,080 but left a note on the table stating, 177 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:43,480 'Off to America. Will keep you posted. Love, Charlie.'" 178 00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:48,200 'Charlie had set sail for America with the Karno Company. 179 00:12:48,200 --> 00:12:51,400 They travelled the length and breadth of the continent 180 00:12:51,400 --> 00:12:53,520 performing their English routines. 181 00:12:53,520 --> 00:12:57,280 The cast included a young Stan Laurel. 182 00:12:57,280 --> 00:13:01,720 After two tours, Chaplin's obvious talent was spotted. 183 00:13:01,720 --> 00:13:04,520 If only they could get his name right!' 184 00:13:04,520 --> 00:13:07,120 In the spring of 1913, 185 00:13:07,120 --> 00:13:11,520 a telegram was sent to the manager of Charlie's touring company 186 00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:15,480 from the owners of the Keystone film studio. 187 00:13:15,480 --> 00:13:20,160 It read, "Is there a man named Chaffin in your company, 188 00:13:20,160 --> 00:13:24,280 or something like that? If so, will he communicate with 189 00:13:24,280 --> 00:13:28,200 Kessel and Baumann, Broadway, New York." 190 00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:34,280 Charlie Chaplin was about to leave the stage for the film studio. 191 00:13:39,080 --> 00:13:42,520 It's a rainy afternoon in January 1914. 192 00:13:42,520 --> 00:13:47,000 In the communal dressing room at Keystone Studios, California, 193 00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:50,160 Chaplin is looking for a costume for his second film. 194 00:13:50,160 --> 00:13:53,840 A comedy called Mabel's Strange Predicament. 195 00:13:53,840 --> 00:13:58,280 Chaplin puts together a selection of contrasts. 196 00:13:58,280 --> 00:14:00,880 A pair of voluminous trousers, 197 00:14:00,880 --> 00:14:03,040 a tiny jacket, 198 00:14:03,040 --> 00:14:05,320 size 14 shoes, 199 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:08,080 a too-small bowler hat, 200 00:14:08,080 --> 00:14:12,400 a cane, and a moustache trimmed to toothbrush size. 201 00:14:14,400 --> 00:14:18,920 The most famous movie character of the century had been born. 202 00:14:20,120 --> 00:14:22,080 The Tramp. 203 00:14:23,640 --> 00:14:26,400 "I had no idea of the character. 204 00:14:26,400 --> 00:14:29,240 But the moment I was dressed 205 00:14:29,240 --> 00:14:33,440 the clothes and the make up made me feel the person he was. 206 00:14:33,440 --> 00:14:37,960 I began to know him, and by the time I walked onto the stage 207 00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:39,960 he was fully born." 208 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:47,320 "Shuf-shuf-shuffle with ease, pointing your toes out at 90 degrees. 209 00:14:47,320 --> 00:14:50,120 Next you raise your right foot so 210 00:14:50,120 --> 00:14:54,760 and round and round on your left foot you go." 211 00:14:56,320 --> 00:14:58,040 Canes varied a lot. 212 00:14:58,040 --> 00:14:59,960 Well, I mean, he had many. 213 00:14:59,960 --> 00:15:01,800 There are so many throughout the world. 214 00:15:01,800 --> 00:15:03,600 Collectors have canes. 215 00:15:03,600 --> 00:15:05,600 Some people sometimes contact us and say, 216 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:07,760 "I want to know what film my cane comes from." 217 00:15:07,760 --> 00:15:10,480 So we say, "OK, we'll look at every single photograph 218 00:15:10,480 --> 00:15:13,720 of every single film and try and identify the knobs!" 219 00:15:17,680 --> 00:15:21,640 'The character instantly became known as the Tramp. 220 00:15:21,640 --> 00:15:25,160 But Charlie's son Michael, who has looked into the family tree, 221 00:15:25,160 --> 00:15:27,480 has a different take on the matter, 222 00:15:27,480 --> 00:15:32,040 based on a mysterious letter hidden by Chaplin in a drawer.' 223 00:15:32,040 --> 00:15:34,120 It was found when my mother died 224 00:15:34,120 --> 00:15:37,720 and my sister took the piece of furniture. 225 00:15:37,720 --> 00:15:41,440 And the drawer was locked. No-one could find the key. 226 00:15:41,440 --> 00:15:43,480 She had a locksmith come and open it. 227 00:15:43,480 --> 00:15:46,400 There was a letter inside by a man called Jack Hill, 228 00:15:46,400 --> 00:15:49,560 who had read his autobiography. 229 00:15:49,560 --> 00:15:53,000 This was shortly after his autobiography was published. 230 00:15:53,000 --> 00:15:55,080 And says...you know... 231 00:15:55,080 --> 00:15:57,600 He actually tells him, "You're a little liar, 232 00:15:57,600 --> 00:15:59,680 cos you were not born in Kennington, 233 00:15:59,680 --> 00:16:06,880 you were born in Queen Sentina's caravan on Black Patch." 234 00:16:06,880 --> 00:16:11,640 'The letter puts the place of Chaplin's birth in a gypsy caravan 235 00:16:11,640 --> 00:16:16,040 in Birmingham. There's no other evidence to support this claim. 236 00:16:16,040 --> 00:16:21,800 But it got Michael thinking about who Chaplin's alter ego really was.' 237 00:16:26,560 --> 00:16:28,560 You know, you look at his early films, 238 00:16:28,560 --> 00:16:32,120 it's not a tramp, it's a gypsy. 239 00:16:32,120 --> 00:16:36,560 Because a tramp is usually quite humble or down. 240 00:16:36,560 --> 00:16:41,800 Or he's in the street because he's failed in some way. 241 00:16:41,800 --> 00:16:43,920 The character he invented is not at all that. 242 00:16:43,920 --> 00:16:47,960 He's someone who goes into these bourgeois milieus, 243 00:16:47,960 --> 00:16:50,640 especially in the early films, and he takes over. 244 00:16:50,640 --> 00:16:53,360 He's not at all intimidated. He's got that cheek 245 00:16:53,360 --> 00:16:56,160 that really belongs to gypsies. You can see that. 246 00:17:06,240 --> 00:17:09,640 'With this character set, Chaplin produced film after film - 247 00:17:09,640 --> 00:17:14,760 82 in all - showcasing his talent at physical comedy. 248 00:17:14,760 --> 00:17:18,760 But this was more than just shoving a pie in someone's face.' 249 00:17:18,760 --> 00:17:23,520 In Chaplin films the slapstick is nuanced. 250 00:17:23,520 --> 00:17:26,480 Even violence is balletic. 251 00:17:26,480 --> 00:17:30,480 His understanding and execution of physical gags 252 00:17:30,480 --> 00:17:34,840 showed an artist in total command of his craft. 253 00:17:56,800 --> 00:18:01,280 But if a talent for slapstick was the only weapon in Chaplin's armoury, 254 00:18:01,280 --> 00:18:03,240 like Buster Keaton's, 255 00:18:03,240 --> 00:18:06,720 then he would have been one among many talented artists 256 00:18:06,720 --> 00:18:08,840 of the silent era. 257 00:18:08,840 --> 00:18:12,040 He wouldn't have changed the face of movie comedy. 258 00:18:13,400 --> 00:18:15,360 Which is what he did. 259 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:27,600 'When Charlie Chaplin started in the movies 260 00:18:27,600 --> 00:18:29,920 silent comedies were knockabout farces. 261 00:18:29,920 --> 00:18:31,960 Anything for a laugh. 262 00:18:31,960 --> 00:18:34,040 Chaplin changed all that. 263 00:18:34,040 --> 00:18:38,040 He took the comedy and added another ingredient to it.' 264 00:18:38,040 --> 00:18:42,400 "I did not have to read books to know that the theme of life 265 00:18:42,400 --> 00:18:44,720 is conflict and pain. 266 00:18:44,720 --> 00:18:48,760 Instinctively all my clowning was based on this. 267 00:18:48,760 --> 00:18:53,160 My means of contriving comedy plot was simple. 268 00:18:53,160 --> 00:18:59,360 It was the process of getting people in and out of trouble." 269 00:19:01,840 --> 00:19:04,840 'The Kid, the story of an abandoned baby 270 00:19:04,840 --> 00:19:09,320 raised at first unwillingly by the Tramp, and their life together, 271 00:19:09,320 --> 00:19:12,200 before the reunion of the boy with his mother 272 00:19:12,200 --> 00:19:14,280 perfectly illustrates this. 273 00:19:14,280 --> 00:19:17,720 It pulls off the previously unheard of feat 274 00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:21,760 of being both hugely funny and profoundly moving.' 275 00:19:31,360 --> 00:19:34,880 "Please love and care for the orphan child." 276 00:19:37,640 --> 00:19:39,600 (WHIMPERS) 277 00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:47,160 Gets to like him. 278 00:19:52,280 --> 00:19:54,880 I'm still moved by it. 279 00:19:54,880 --> 00:20:01,120 It's full of sentiment and... I just really love it. 280 00:20:01,120 --> 00:20:06,880 'Released in 1921, The Kid was an instant success, 281 00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:09,240 distributed to 50 countries, 282 00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:12,680 from Norway to Malaya, Egypt to Australia.' 283 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:18,560 In the world of silent films, realism, drama, and sentiment 284 00:20:18,560 --> 00:20:21,280 were kept well apart from comedy. 285 00:20:21,280 --> 00:20:24,200 Comedy was about being kicked up the arse 286 00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:26,600 or being hit on the head by a brick. 287 00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:30,960 But Chaplin was always striving for more, 288 00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:34,000 always driven to break convention. 289 00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:38,840 He wanted to make raw slapstick and sentiment work together. 290 00:20:38,840 --> 00:20:41,680 He wanted them to complement each other 291 00:20:41,680 --> 00:20:43,960 in a way that strengthened his art. 292 00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:55,160 When we have a sweet moment, he undercuts it by slapstick. 293 00:20:57,640 --> 00:21:01,680 I like the way he kicks the child away from him. 294 00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:03,680 (LAUGHS) 295 00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:08,160 Bolts round the corner! 296 00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:15,000 Chaplin really did have something special as an artist, 297 00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:19,960 had an incredible understanding of human nature, of what is human. 298 00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:23,400 And that, added to the fact that he was a great actor 299 00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:26,840 so he admits you to his thoughts, he admits you to his feelings 300 00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:29,760 in a way that very few actors can do. 301 00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:36,320 'Chaplin had created that rarest of creatures - 302 00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:39,720 the Tramp had universal appeal.' 303 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:43,240 "Man who makes the whole world laugh." 304 00:21:45,120 --> 00:21:49,360 What is still mysterious to me is how fast it happened. 305 00:21:49,360 --> 00:21:55,120 By mid-1915 he's already a universal figure, 306 00:21:55,120 --> 00:21:57,960 after less than two years in films. 307 00:21:57,960 --> 00:22:01,520 That's extraordinary, because you have no television, no radio. 308 00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:04,840 It was only done from the screen. 309 00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:12,000 'In 1916, on the way to New York from California to sign a new contract, 310 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:15,800 vast crowds mobbed Charlie's train at every stop. 311 00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:19,600 Chaplin-mania had arrived.' 312 00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:22,560 "The formalities of signing the contract followed. 313 00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:27,920 I was photographed receiving the $150,000 cheque. 314 00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:32,320 That evening I stood with the crowd in Times Square 315 00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:35,200 as the news flashed onto the electric sign 316 00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:37,520 that runs round the Times building. 317 00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:44,800 It read 'Chaplin signs with Mutual at 670,000 a year.' 318 00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:50,200 I stood and read it objectively, as though it were about someone else. 319 00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:55,160 So much had happened to me, my emotions were spent." 320 00:22:55,160 --> 00:23:00,680 'It was during the First World War that he truly became a global star, 321 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:03,160 with a salary to match.' 322 00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:06,640 In all, 675,000, which was more than the president, 323 00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:08,720 which was more than anywhere. 324 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:12,000 And Mutual actually advertised in the press 325 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:15,320 that Chaplin was more expensive than the war. 326 00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:17,320 (LAUGHS) 327 00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:26,280 'Chaplin came from abject poverty in South London 328 00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:30,080 to become one of the highest paid actors in Hollywood. 329 00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:36,680 That's amazing enough, but for me the really remarkable thing about him 330 00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:39,680 is what he did with his money. 331 00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:43,280 He went as far as to build his own studio. 332 00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:47,680 He set up his own distribution company, United Artists, 333 00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:50,720 with Mary Pickford and Douglas Fairbanks Jr, 334 00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:53,160 the superstars of their day. 335 00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:56,480 He ploughed profits back into his own films, 336 00:23:56,480 --> 00:24:00,600 which meant he could exercise complete artistic freedom. 337 00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:05,000 As a child he'd been powerless in the face of misfortune. 338 00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:10,040 Now, as an adult, he wanted and got total control 339 00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:12,280 over his art and career.' 340 00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:16,640 This is the daily production report, 341 00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:20,120 where they write down who was employed that day, 342 00:24:20,120 --> 00:24:22,280 how much film footage they shot, 343 00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:25,720 what sequences they were shooting, and the weather. 344 00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:28,000 This day it happened to be fair. 345 00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:30,000 And sometimes little anecdotes. 346 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:34,200 For example, I was looking at the one for Dog's Life the other day 347 00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:37,520 and it said that the shooting was delayed 348 00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:40,600 because "pocketbook was run away with". 349 00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:43,520 So the dog must have just run off with the wallet. 350 00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:47,280 And you can imagine... But it was a very sort of serious thing. 351 00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:51,680 His position was unique, because he made the films with his own money. 352 00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:54,640 Nobody else in Hollywood was putting up their own money 353 00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:56,560 to make their own films. 354 00:24:56,560 --> 00:24:59,040 He had his own studio. 355 00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:04,240 And it was a big risk. Fortunately, it almost always paid off. 356 00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:09,280 Chaplin was always trying to push the boundaries of his art. 357 00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:12,320 Not just to get bigger laughs, always important, 358 00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:15,600 but to see where these innovations would take him. 359 00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:21,720 With The Kid he made the first full-length comedy of the silent era. 360 00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:25,240 He proved there was an appetite for something more 361 00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:27,640 than the old two-reelers. 362 00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:32,040 'In The Gold Rush, made four years later in 1925, 363 00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:34,880 he hit new heights of innovation. 364 00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:41,480 In this scene he used a combination of elaborate stage set, models, 365 00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:44,280 and beautifully choreographed slapstick 366 00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:47,400 to create a seamless piece of film comedy 367 00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:50,920 that also adds a thrill factor to the mix.' 368 00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:55,640 Oh, no! It's... (LAUGHS) 369 00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:01,480 Oooooh! 370 00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:03,480 (LAUGHS) 371 00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:10,360 (LAUGHS) 372 00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:15,960 How innovative was Chaplin technically? 373 00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:19,400 Well, over the years people have... 374 00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:22,440 Critics and historians have been inclined to say, 375 00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:25,040 "Oh, well, he maybe is very funny, 376 00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:27,160 but he's a very primitive filmmaker." 377 00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:29,240 It's not true at all. 378 00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:32,280 It's fascinating really to look at the Keystone films. 379 00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:34,160 It's almost like a film school. 380 00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:36,200 He'll be teaching himself what happens 381 00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:39,440 if you throw somebody out of a shot and they come in the other side. 382 00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:41,280 He really is learning it. 383 00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:45,760 And by 1916/17, when he's got much more independence, 384 00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:48,040 the shots are very, very sophisticated. 385 00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:56,640 'In search of what he had in his head, 386 00:26:56,640 --> 00:27:00,240 Chaplin could be an absolute monster on set, 387 00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:06,160 flying into rages with cast and crew if things weren't going his way. 388 00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:10,840 One scene in City Lights, from 1931, 389 00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:15,240 features a blind flower seller offering the Tramp a flower.' 390 00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:21,520 The scene took 342 takes before he was satisfied with it. 391 00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:27,040 Chaplin worked himself up into a state of nervous exhaustion 392 00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:29,280 in the search for perfection. 393 00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:33,400 People say, "What was the genius of Charlie Chaplin?" 394 00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:36,160 And my conclusion at the moment is 395 00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:40,040 his genius was that he knew when he'd got it right. 396 00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:41,840 (LAUGHTER) However many times... 397 00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:43,600 "Ah! I've got it!" You know? 398 00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:49,800 'Chaplin was such a good mimic, he would often act out 399 00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:51,600 each part for his cast, 400 00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:54,800 showing them exactly the way he wanted them to play it. 401 00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:57,480 This even applied to the extras.' 402 00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:07,680 This is something that we found quite recently 403 00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:11,120 in The Great Dictator papers, which is somebody who's transcribed 404 00:28:11,120 --> 00:28:15,520 Chaplin directing Paulette Goddard at the end of The Great Dictator. 405 00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:18,520 I think that what he says was rather beautiful. 406 00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:21,640 "This scene is the poetry of this picture. 407 00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:23,800 You have to be happy - hope! 408 00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:26,600 I want to see that smiling spirit. 409 00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:30,200 I want this as music, not as a human being. 410 00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:34,000 It's got to be joy, but not fake joy. 411 00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:37,760 You'll find you'll get it more if you relax. 412 00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:43,120 As long as you believe it, when you express real joy, they'll cry." 413 00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:50,440 'I couldn't direct like Chaplin. I like actors to do their own stuff. 414 00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:53,920 But it shows his uncrushable self-belief 415 00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:56,640 that his way was best. 416 00:28:56,640 --> 00:29:00,880 Chaplin the artist went from success to success. 417 00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:06,320 His private life was another matter, mired in unhappiness and scandal. 418 00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:08,800 Like so many things in his life, 419 00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:12,240 I think this can be traced back to his childhood.' 420 00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:20,760 "The intensity of my emotion must have bewildered her, 421 00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:23,400 for all during the drive I kept repeating, 422 00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:27,240 'I know I'm going to regret this. You're too beautiful.' 423 00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:30,920 I tried vainly to be amusing and impress her. 424 00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:34,080 I had drawn three pounds from the bank 425 00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:36,920 and had planned to take her to the Trocadero, 426 00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:40,840 where, in an atmosphere of music and plush elegance, 427 00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:44,440 she could see me under the most romantic auspices. 428 00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:47,360 I wanted to sweep her off her feet, 429 00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:52,280 but she remained cool-eyed, and somewhat perplexed at my utterances. 430 00:29:52,280 --> 00:30:00,320 To meet elegance and beauty in my station of life was rare." 431 00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:08,240 'Charlie's first love was Hetty Kelly, a 15-year-old dancer. 432 00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:12,080 Chaplin was 19, a music hall comedian. 433 00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:15,240 The romance lasted all of 11 days, 434 00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:18,360 but left an indelible mark on him.' 435 00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:22,760 He did like very young, still in their teens, 436 00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:28,120 and...well, one might dream virginal young girls. 437 00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:33,080 'The age difference between him and Hetty had been four years. 438 00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:37,520 But as Chaplin got older, the age of his partners stayed the same. 439 00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:42,720 His wealth and charm meant he could pick and choose whoever he wanted. 440 00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:47,720 His marriages and relationships fell into a predictable pattern. 441 00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:51,880 His first wife, Mildred Harris, a child actress, 442 00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:55,600 was 16 when they first met - Chaplin, 29. 443 00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:59,400 Ill-matched, they were divorced two years later. 444 00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:03,560 Lita Grey, his second wife, was 16 445 00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:05,920 and pregnant when Chaplin married her. 446 00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:10,360 He was 35. The marriage only lasted three years. 447 00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:15,800 It was, however, his involvement with another young actress, Joan Barry, 448 00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:19,800 in the early 1940s that really hit the headlines. 449 00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:23,160 It involved a court case and paternity suit, 450 00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:27,760 where the messy details of their affair were dragged into public view. 451 00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:33,240 In the middle of the trial, he met his fourth wife, Oona O'Neill, 452 00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:36,920 daughter of the American playwright Eugene O'Neill. 453 00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:43,400 Only with her did he find any sort of happiness. 454 00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:47,360 Despite the age difference - she was 18 and he 51 - 455 00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:49,960 the marriage lasted until his death. 456 00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:56,640 Chaplin's private life had long provoked moral outrage 457 00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:58,720 in right-wing America. 458 00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:02,800 But it was his films and politics that really sparked their anger. 459 00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:06,840 Part of Chaplin's genius was to take risks. 460 00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:10,760 He didn't shy away from sending up controversial subjects. 461 00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:16,800 In 1918, with soldiers dying in their thousands on the Western front, 462 00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:18,920 Chaplin released Shoulder Arms, 463 00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:22,640 in which he made life in the trenches a source of comedy.' 464 00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:27,240 (CHUCKLES) 465 00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:29,920 'Bad taste? Unfunny? 466 00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:32,440 Not according to the soldiers who saw it. 467 00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:36,400 They thought it hilarious. 468 00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:39,800 20 years later he decided to send up 469 00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:42,520 one of the greatest monsters of the century.' 470 00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:46,680 Excellency, here are the notes for your speech. Thank you. 471 00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:51,640 'In The Great Dictator he made Adolf Hitler an object of ridicule.' 472 00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:56,440 Nobody in Hollywood dared to take off Hitler. 473 00:32:56,440 --> 00:33:00,360 (MUTTERS IN GERMAN) 474 00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:04,800 'Pro-Nazi Americans weren't the only people who hated it.' 475 00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:07,880 "The Chaplin picture is barred in Germany, 476 00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:11,960 ostensibly because it has communistic tendencies. 477 00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:16,360 But this official announcement is sceptically received elsewhere. 478 00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:19,240 The real reason, the doubters suspect, 479 00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:24,920 is that Charlie's twitching moustache looks too much like Der Fuhrer's." 480 00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:30,880 (LAUGHS) 481 00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:39,680 I don't know why anyone hasn't thought of this before. 482 00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:42,280 The world as a balloon. 483 00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:47,200 (LAUGHS) 484 00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:50,240 It's just genius. 485 00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:53,080 'When it opened in London at the height of the Blitz, 486 00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:56,280 audiences lapped it up. 487 00:33:56,280 --> 00:34:01,560 Back in the US, Chaplin threw himself into the war effort, 488 00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:03,760 drumming up support for Russia. 489 00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:07,160 Getting carried away giving a speech at a rally, 490 00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:11,560 he uttered a phrase that was to come back and haunt him.' 491 00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:15,240 "I was wearing a black tie and dinner jacket. 492 00:34:15,240 --> 00:34:19,280 There was applause, which gave me a little time to collect myself. 493 00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:24,200 When it subsided, I said one word - 'Comrades.' 494 00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:27,520 And the house went up in a roar of laughter. 495 00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:33,960 When it subsided, I said emphatically, 'And I MEAN comrades'. 496 00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:36,720 There was renewed laughter, then applause." 497 00:34:36,720 --> 00:34:39,840 He wasn't alone though, look. 498 00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:41,880 "Artists Front to win the war." 499 00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:43,760 There were lots of them there. 500 00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:48,760 "Ladies and gentlemen, comrades - I mean comrades - 501 00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:52,960 any people who can fight as the Russian people are fighting now, 502 00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:55,920 fighting and dying for our democracy, 503 00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:58,920 then it is time, a pleasure, and a privilege 504 00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:01,760 to refer to them as comrades." 505 00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:04,040 What's bad about that? 506 00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:06,400 (LAUGHS) That's what he thought! 507 00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:10,400 And that was that, really, wasn't it? Yes! 508 00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:14,120 From that moment the FBI began compiling evidence 509 00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:16,840 of his supposed communist sympathies. 510 00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:19,760 Even a favourable review of one of his films 511 00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:22,800 in a communist newspaper from 1923 512 00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:27,840 was proof to the paranoid head of the FBI, J Edgar Hoover, 513 00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:32,160 that Chaplin was a dangerous anti-American radical. 514 00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:59,920 Hoover took every opportunity to hound Chaplin subsequently. 515 00:35:59,920 --> 00:36:06,600 And by 1952 the FBI file on him ran to 115 pages. 516 00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:11,600 In the Communist witch hunts that consumed American public life 517 00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:16,000 after the Second World War, Chaplin became a prime target 518 00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:20,000 for red baiters, though they could never prove that he'd been a member 519 00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:21,880 of the Communist Party. 520 00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:26,880 But Hoover was determined to bring him down. 521 00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:32,520 In 1952 he decided he would premiere his film Limelight in London, 522 00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:37,320 and planned a trip to Europe with his new family. 523 00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:40,560 Little did he know when he got on the vote in New York, 524 00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:43,840 he wouldn't be coming back. 525 00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:47,400 The Queen Elizabeth had been at sea for two days 526 00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:51,640 when Chaplin received a message from the attorney general's office. 527 00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:55,640 "It stated that I was to be barred from the United States 528 00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:58,240 and that before I could re-enter the country 529 00:36:58,240 --> 00:37:02,120 I would have to go before an Immigration Board of Enquiry 530 00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:07,720 to answer charges of a political nature and of moral turpitude." 531 00:37:07,720 --> 00:37:10,080 He decided to have the premiere in London. 532 00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:12,160 I'm not quite sure why, actually. 533 00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:15,040 I think the whole atmosphere on the set was very tense 534 00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:16,920 all the way through. 535 00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:20,520 And so they decided to go to London for a holiday, 536 00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:23,040 and then his re-entry permit was rescinded. 537 00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:32,560 I remember... What I do remember was going to the premiere. 538 00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:34,680 And there was a massive crowd. 539 00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:39,520 And I think it's the first time I realised just how famous he was. 540 00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:42,120 Amazing crowd shouting and screaming 541 00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:45,160 that we had to walk through to get into the cinema. 542 00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:48,040 And it was a shock, yeah. It was quite a shock. 543 00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:54,240 'Limelight was set in the world that gave birth to Chaplin as a performer. 544 00:37:54,240 --> 00:37:56,600 That of the Victorian music hall. 545 00:37:56,600 --> 00:37:59,600 It's full of autobiographical references, 546 00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:05,600 and Chaplin plays Calvero, an ageing clown afraid of losing his audience.' 547 00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:15,480 How did your father react to not going back to the US? 548 00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:21,760 I think it was a huge blow to him. 549 00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:28,240 I've seen newsreel of a press conference he gave in London, 550 00:38:28,240 --> 00:38:35,440 and you can see he's really... His voice is cracking with emotion. 551 00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:38,840 He's trying to put on a brave face 552 00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:42,880 and say "goodbye, good riddance", that sort of thing. 553 00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:45,680 But I think it was a huge blow. 554 00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:49,480 He hadn't realised it would come to that. 555 00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:51,240 They had really no right to do it. 556 00:38:51,240 --> 00:38:53,600 They were terrified that he would come back, 557 00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:57,080 because there would have been such a huge scandal and embarrassment. 558 00:38:57,080 --> 00:38:59,280 But he didn't give them that embarrassment, 559 00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:02,760 because he said, "I'm not going back." He left. 560 00:39:06,240 --> 00:39:10,320 'Once Chaplin had been untouchable because of his fame. 561 00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:14,800 Now he was banished from the country he had lived in for 40 years. 562 00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:18,280 He was going to have to make a new life.' 563 00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:30,880 'Once Charlie Chaplin had been the most famous person on earth. 564 00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:35,520 Now, in his 60s, he had been hounded out of his adopted homeland, 565 00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:38,880 America, and vilified for his political views. 566 00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:43,520 But in amongst all this turmoil and enforced exile, 567 00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:46,640 he found a new happiness with his family. 568 00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:54,640 He finally settled in Switzerland, on the shores of Lake Geneva. 569 00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:59,440 He and Oona and the children took residence near Montreux. 570 00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:04,640 It was here he could, for the first time in his life, 571 00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:07,560 devote proper time to his family.' 572 00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:12,640 What was the nature of their relationship, your father and mother? 573 00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:16,920 (SIGHS) 574 00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:19,360 I think they were very much in love. 575 00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:25,240 I think my mother hadn't had a family, 576 00:40:25,240 --> 00:40:29,200 and he gave her a family, he gave her eight children. 577 00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:31,240 (LAUGHTER) 578 00:40:31,240 --> 00:40:33,280 And... 579 00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:36,160 That's almost too much! 580 00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:40,440 Yes! Yes, I think probably it was. 581 00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:48,720 This man had a very turbulent love life 582 00:40:48,720 --> 00:40:51,760 and...I think he found peace with her. 583 00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:54,080 She gave herself totally to him 584 00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:56,920 and seemed to be enjoying herself. 585 00:40:56,920 --> 00:41:00,800 And he seemed to worship her. 586 00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:08,480 What was he like with his large family? 587 00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:10,480 Close or distant? 588 00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:19,080 Well, he was a bit of... a bit of a Victorian gentleman. 589 00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:22,440 At supper we'd all gather round the table 590 00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:25,280 and he'd tell us stories and we'd have debates. 591 00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:27,480 He enjoyed our company. 592 00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:29,840 But the rest of the time we didn't see him. 593 00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:32,720 He was working. And we had to toe the line. 594 00:41:32,720 --> 00:41:36,360 He was, I think, quite strict in that sense. 595 00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:38,440 You know, he wanted us to behave. 596 00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:43,160 We couldn't really be too rowdy in his company. 597 00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:50,400 Here he is picking a flower. 598 00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:53,840 And eating it! (LAUGHS) 599 00:41:57,000 --> 00:42:00,920 That was one of his old music hall gags. 600 00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:02,920 He's marching off. (LAUGHS) 601 00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:12,400 He'd do things for us. He'd do little magic tricks, 602 00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:16,480 or funny things like having his hats flip off his head. 603 00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:19,480 You know, music hall tricks which he'd do. 604 00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:25,200 But he didn't really talk much about his films, as I remember. 605 00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:31,880 He was maybe easier on my sisters. 606 00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:35,920 I think maybe he himself, he never really knew his own father. 607 00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:38,000 He met him once or twice, 608 00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:41,760 but they certainly didn't have any lasting relationship. 609 00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:52,280 "The Three Stags in the Kennington Road 610 00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:54,960 was not a place my father frequented. 611 00:42:54,960 --> 00:43:00,040 Yet as I passed it one evening, an urge prompt a great to peek inside 612 00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:02,120 to see if he was there. 613 00:43:02,120 --> 00:43:07,080 I opened the saloon door, and there he was, sitting in the corner. 614 00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:10,720 He looked very ill. His eyes were sunken 615 00:43:10,720 --> 00:43:14,280 and his body had swollen to an enormous size. 616 00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:20,160 That evening he was most solicitous, enquiring after mother and Sydney. 617 00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:23,560 And before I left he took me in his arms 618 00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:26,400 and for the first time, kissed me. 619 00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:29,640 That was the last time I saw him alive." 620 00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:37,560 It was the first time his father had hugged him or kissed him. Yes. 621 00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:43,200 Well, you know, I think some of that sort of passed down. 622 00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:48,800 He was awkward. He didn't quite know how to behave with a son. 623 00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:50,920 But he certainly did with daughters. 624 00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:55,920 But he loved us. I feel he really...he did love us. 625 00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:05,520 He seems to be drawn to the places of his childhood. 626 00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:11,200 This is West Square, I think. 627 00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:15,600 Yes. West Square. It's all in Lambeth. 628 00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:20,040 He was right at the end of his life. 629 00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:23,800 Nobody recognised him with his mackintosh and his hat pulled down. 630 00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:26,480 He'd get on a bus or a tube and go down to Kennington. 631 00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:30,520 I think one of the extraordinary things about Chaplin 632 00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:32,840 is that although he was so famous, 633 00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:36,520 although he was wooed by kings and prime ministers, 634 00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:40,320 he kept his, sort of, ordinariness 635 00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:46,240 and his link with real life and real people and ordinary people. 636 00:44:46,240 --> 00:44:48,720 I think he knew that that was essential to him. 637 00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:56,200 One had the feeling that he went to Kennington not from nostalgia 638 00:44:56,200 --> 00:44:59,040 but because he knew that that was the food... 639 00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:01,080 This was what had nourished him. 640 00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:10,760 He liked going to Kennington, and people respected him there. 641 00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:14,720 They didn't mob him or fuss him. 642 00:45:23,080 --> 00:45:27,440 "I stopped the taxi a little before 3, Pownall Terrace. 643 00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:31,520 A strange calm came over me as I walked towards the house. 644 00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:35,200 I stood a moment taking in the scene. 645 00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:37,840 3, Pownall Terrace. 646 00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:41,520 There it was, looking like a gaunt old skull. 647 00:45:41,520 --> 00:45:43,920 I looked up at the two top windows, 648 00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:49,520 the garrett where Mother had sat weak and undernourished, losing her mind. 649 00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:54,120 The windows were closed tight. They were telling no secrets. 650 00:45:54,120 --> 00:45:57,520 Yet their silence communicated more than words. 651 00:45:57,520 --> 00:46:00,760 Eventually some little children came up and surrounded me 652 00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:02,760 and I was obliged to move on." 653 00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:09,800 'Following in Charlie's footsteps around South London, 654 00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:13,680 seeing where he and his mother had endured terrible poverty 655 00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:19,440 and humiliation, has made me realise what an incredible life he had. 656 00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:23,120 From sleeping rough on the streets of London as a child 657 00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:25,840 to a figure loved all over the world.' 658 00:46:27,160 --> 00:46:29,600 He's not essentially the little American, 659 00:46:29,600 --> 00:46:33,040 he's not a little Londoner or anything, he's a human being. 660 00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:35,640 Which did seem to be universally recognised. 661 00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:39,040 Every country in the world adopted Chaplin, loved Chaplin. 662 00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:45,240 And there was in him a universality to which the whole responded. 663 00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:54,080 'Chaplin's fame gave him fantastic freedom as an artist. 664 00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:56,960 He took physical comedy to new heights, 665 00:46:56,960 --> 00:47:02,440 making films that moved you and made you laugh at the same time. 666 00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:05,480 He was a one-off, a genius. 667 00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:10,080 But like a lot of geniuses, he had his flaws. 668 00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:14,880 And while I love his work, I'm not so sure about the man. 669 00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:17,760 He could be a bit of a monster when he chose to be, 670 00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:20,320 especially in his private life. 671 00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:24,120 But his legacy, his films, are timeless.' 672 00:47:31,120 --> 00:47:33,080 subtitles by Deluxe 57229

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