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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:13,160 --> 00:00:22,160 (radio chatter ....tv broadcast sounds) 2 00:00:24,160 --> 00:00:27,320 ..take 3....ready camera 13...full.. 3 00:00:27,320 --> 00:00:34,000 ...nuclear explosions are caused by H bombs or atom bombs.. 4 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:38,440 …soviet tanks and soldiers, moved into the town of Hara 3 days ago… 5 00:00:38,440 --> 00:00:42,280 …the fortunes of the Iran/Iraq war, if that war drags on… 6 00:00:42,280 --> 00:00:43,960 …the man accused of murdering John Lennon… 7 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:46,080 …we especially like Space Invaders… (bleep, bleep).. 8 00:00:46,080 --> 00:00:51,360 …my attitude is positive and though I can’t be with you this holiday season.. 9 00:00:51,360 --> 00:00:55,200 …saw Santa Claus zooming about, in his star studded jet plane.. 10 00:00:55,200 --> 00:01:00,000 …it streaked across the sky, brighter than any comet..(screech) 11 00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:12,680 As the Christmas of 1980 passed many of by 12 00:01:12,680 --> 00:01:19,000 In one sleepy corner of the British Isles, a strange series of events had begun to unfold 13 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:28,320 Exactly what took place over that holiday period, has been widely debated and analysed ever since 14 00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:37,680 Involving 3 nights of encounters in the forests surrounding the twin bases of RAF Woodbridge and Bentwaters 15 00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:44,640 The Rendlesham Forest Incident, has grown to become one of our great modern mysteries 16 00:01:48,160 --> 00:01:56,480 But what was the genesis of this bizarre story and is it deserving of it’s legendary status 17 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:20,160 In January of 1981, this area of Suffolk, had become accustomed mysterious goings on 18 00:02:20,160 --> 00:02:29,880 Gripped by the Cold War, the work at secret research facilities such Orfordness and Cobra Mist, were often the subject of local gossip 19 00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:35,080 But amongst a small group of locals, rumours of a different kind began to surface 20 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:41,160 One of these stories ended up in the lap of local UFO enthusiast, Brenda Butler 21 00:02:41,160 --> 00:02:47,120 It was at a New Years party, on January the 1st, 1981 22 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:54,240 and we had a party at the farm in Aldringham and we several American friends off the base who we knew 23 00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:57,120 cause there were several Americans living around here then 24 00:02:57,120 --> 00:03:04,560 They all came and one of the guys, um Steve Roberts, went up to Chris who was with me at the time and said 25 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:09,400 "I've got something to tell Brenda, do you think I should tell her or not?" 26 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:16,440 He told Chris this story about a craft coming down in the forest, on December the 27th, 1980 27 00:03:21,760 --> 00:03:28,240 And I go, yeah, yeah! Cause Steve and I had known each other for quite a while, he knew I was into UFO’s and we were always talking UFO’s 28 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:30,920 I thought he was just joking and pulling my leg! 29 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:44,160 He phoned me up and said, have you heard any more? And I said yes He said I don’t mind you talking about it, but don’t give my name out 30 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:58,720 Quite a lot of British people, who were coming home between 11 & 1 o’clock saw this great big huge craft going over 31 00:03:58,720 --> 00:04:04,280 Brenda began to make local enquiries, which resulted in a number of leads. 32 00:04:04,280 --> 00:04:08,440 It seems that there were multiple sightings of objects in the sky over the Christmas period 33 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:16,480 From reports of animals disturbed and becoming sick, to people seeing strange objects flying over the Forest 34 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:24,960 With what seemed like a story worth pursuing, Brenda approached friend and fellow UFO enthusiast, Dot Street 35 00:04:24,960 --> 00:04:28,480 The duo began to dig further into the story 36 00:04:29,280 --> 00:04:34,960 We had the NSA or the CIA, or whatever they were. Nobody seemed to know what they were, except they were government men 37 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:41,760 Their early days of investigation, seemed to be plagued by weirdness 38 00:04:42,840 --> 00:04:49,200 car engines would cut out and mystery men in suits, seemed to shadow their every move 39 00:05:00,520 --> 00:05:06,040 Well they didn't really seem to be interviewing these people! 40 00:05:06,040 --> 00:05:12,720 Everyone that Dot and I had been interviewing, that was quiet a few, about 30-40 people around the area 41 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:15,440 had had visits from these gentlemen 42 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:21,000 and they weren’tt really asking them anything. Well, the questions they were asking were basically 43 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:24,800 Did see anything, did you hear anything and if you did…keep quiet! 44 00:05:41,320 --> 00:05:46,920 With mounting evidence that something had happened and growing list of confusing paths to pursue 45 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:51,040 the girls enlisted the help of writer and UFO researcher Jenny Randles 46 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:57,240 Jenny had also been fed a story about UFOs being tracked on radar over the Christmas period. 47 00:05:57,240 --> 00:06:01,320 The stories that the girls had put to her, were too close to be coincidence 48 00:06:02,720 --> 00:06:10,640 Initially, they were met with stoney silence. But through persistence, it became clear that both the USAF and the MOD new something 49 00:06:38,320 --> 00:06:43,040 “Art Wallace” supplied a very similar story to the ones fed to Brenda and Jenny 50 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:49,240 Wallaces real name “Larry Warren” would later be revealed and his involvement, hotly debated 51 00:06:50,400 --> 00:06:57,960 Armed with a statement from Warren, the 2 teams worked either side of the Atlantic applying pressure to the USAF and the MOD 52 00:07:03,280 --> 00:07:11,320 The 2 teams had hit jackpot. Through persistent FOI requests, the USAF eventually released the MOD documents they held on the case 53 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:16,520 A memo passed to the MOD, by the then deputy base commander, Charles Halt 54 00:07:16,520 --> 00:07:19,160 outlined multiple sightings of unexplained lights 55 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:24,920 The U.S.A.F passed the buck..and the media had a field day 56 00:07:29,600 --> 00:07:35,600 Finally the big story many had been waiting for, had literally landed! 57 00:07:37,160 --> 00:07:40,320 But there were a few doubtful voices.. 58 00:07:46,640 --> 00:07:52,760 I don't recall hearing anything about this story before, until it hit the front page of the News of the World 59 00:07:52,760 --> 00:07:57,880 I think UFO specialists had talked about it amongst themselves, but there wasn’t’t any real evidence 60 00:07:57,880 --> 00:08:02,280 But what made this story really stand up, from the News of the Worlds point of view 61 00:08:02,280 --> 00:08:09,600 was the release under the Freedom of Information Act in America, of Colonel Halt’s memo, to the British Ministry of Defence 62 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:17,480 His 3 paragraph memo, which recounted the events that happened on the 1st night, when he wasn’t involved 63 00:08:17,480 --> 00:08:20,960 and a subsequent night, when he was involved 64 00:08:20,960 --> 00:08:28,480 So this documentary evidence, from a high ranking Air Force officer, made this seem like a very significant case indeed 65 00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:36,800 I thought, well I’ve got to look into this one. It seemed to me either, this was going to be the final proof positive, or aI could never take UFO’s seriously again! 66 00:08:39,760 --> 00:08:44,800 On the 1st night of a 3 night episode Airman John Burroughs was the first responder 67 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:53,360 We were on patrol, two different units, supervisor asked to meet up with me parked my vehicle up at the main gate 68 00:08:53,360 --> 00:09:00,720 went on patrol, driving around talking to each other. We were coming down the East Gate road by the control tower 69 00:09:00,720 --> 00:09:08,080 He saw something strange..that immediately said, it didn’t crash..it landed! Just simply said..did you see that? 70 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:11,760 And I was like..no and he said…it’s in the forest! 71 00:09:16,440 --> 00:09:20,400 The gist of it was.. we down ( there ), I opened up the gate, we took off, went down the road 72 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:24,880 all the way to the end of it, where you can go left or right.. left to Bentwaters, right to this way 73 00:09:24,880 --> 00:09:26,800 We made a u turn in the car 74 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:33,240 I jumped out the vehicle, looked out to see if I could see hear, or see, or figure it out 75 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:41,680 I’ve said that, most of the time most people don’t have it, but once in a while, you get this experience, where just don’t feel comfortable, nervous 76 00:09:41,680 --> 00:09:44,520 I don’t know if you’re freaked out, you’re just scared! 77 00:09:48,760 --> 00:09:54,000 I called it in, to let the desk sergeant know, that something strange, you know was just outside the back gate 78 00:10:00,920 --> 00:10:06,800 At that point, they dispatched Sgt. Penniston, the security supervisor for the area down to the site 79 00:10:06,800 --> 00:10:11,960 He came down, got out the vehicle, looked in the forest and saw the same strange lights that we were 80 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:17,760 He talked to Bud. He told me and he said now, that Bud told him, it didn’t crash, it landed 81 00:10:24,880 --> 00:10:29,520 So, it was me, Jim’s first ride, who happened to be ( on ) his first night, Ed Cabanasaq 82 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:34,800 We left our weapons with Steffens and proceeded out into the forest 83 00:10:34,800 --> 00:10:40,000 to try to figure it out…..( footsteps, breathing sounds ) 84 00:10:46,680 --> 00:10:52,440 We went into the forest, to try to see whatever it was….What I saw, was what I drew in my statement 85 00:10:52,440 --> 00:11:01,840 I never saw a craft, I saw like an orangish, oval object, um there was some white lights, blue lights, even some green lights in it at one point 86 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:10,520 All I remember at that point…the lights got bright! Sgt. Penniston was up in front of me like this 87 00:11:10,520 --> 00:11:14,840 I was more centre, with Cabanasaq, we were like in a line formation, spread out a little bit 88 00:11:14,840 --> 00:11:19,560 so we spread out and we hit the ground That’s what I remember, hitting the ground, cause it got really bright 89 00:11:19,560 --> 00:11:25,560 Then eventually it dimmed…shot up through the trees like this, kind of through the trees, up above us 90 00:11:25,560 --> 00:11:29,600 then shot out that way……..and everyone know’s Jim’s story? 91 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:34,320 Jim Penniston, whose story would prove to be highly controversial in later years 92 00:11:34,320 --> 00:11:36,880 had accompanied John into the forest that night 93 00:11:36,880 --> 00:11:39,000 His original account came to light, thanks to UFO researcher James Easton, who uncovered statements made by the witnesses 94 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:43,600 His original account came to light, thanks to UFO researcher James Easton, who uncovered statements made by the witnesses 95 00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:48,400 on the morning following the first sighting These included drawings made by Jim Penniston 96 00:11:48,400 --> 00:11:51,080 which described a craft seen through the trees 97 00:11:51,520 --> 00:11:56,400 With this plethora of documentation, Bentwaters case as it was referred to at the time 98 00:11:56,400 --> 00:12:01,320 was quickly becoming established as the mother of all UFO cases 99 00:12:01,320 --> 00:12:06,760 But there was one piece of evidence, which some have taken to be final proof of visitation 100 00:12:06,760 --> 00:12:13,120 On a subsequent night, Colonel Halt, the Deputy Base Commander, was called out by his men 101 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:17,800 apparently, they were still very excited by the events of the previous night 102 00:12:17,800 --> 00:12:22,760 They went out into the forest, they saw the light again They called him out 103 00:12:22,760 --> 00:12:30,360 So he took a team of men out there and they began to take, they had a geiger counter with them and they began to take 104 00:12:30,360 --> 00:12:34,200 radiation readings on, on the landing site 105 00:12:44,520 --> 00:12:49,600 ( radio clicks and crackle, a low quality recording ) “150 feet or more, from the initial, I should say suspected impact point 106 00:12:49,600 --> 00:12:54,040 ( click ) towards the woods, 7..what? .. it just jumped up 7/10ths there…7/10ths? 107 00:12:54,040 --> 00:12:57,480 7/10th’s right there in the centre?….uh huh 108 00:12:57,480 --> 00:13:03,320 we’ve found a small blast..what looks like a blasted or scrubbed up area here 109 00:13:03,320 --> 00:13:05,880 we’re getting very positive readings 110 00:13:07,800 --> 00:13:13,040 ( click ) we just bumped into the first nightbird we've seen… we’re about a 150 to 200 yards away from the site 111 00:13:13,040 --> 00:13:19,240 ( click ) everything else is just deathly calm…( click )…there’s no doubt about it there’s some type of strange flashing red light ahead 112 00:13:19,240 --> 00:13:24,080 it’s yellow..I saw a yellow tinge in it too…weird! 113 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:28,280 (click) it appears to maybe moving a little bit this way?…it’s brighter than it has been 114 00:13:28,280 --> 00:13:31,680 yellow…it’s coming this way!…it is definitely coming this way!” 115 00:13:34,480 --> 00:13:39,320 (interference, TV news broadcast voice ) national security implications of those same airmen, guarding a strategic facility 116 00:13:39,320 --> 00:13:46,560 where nuclear weapons are reportedly stored. If they weren’t hallucinating, then what are the implications of what they actually did see? 117 00:13:46,560 --> 00:13:51,480 DeCaro and his team, carried out one of the most thorough investigations into the incident 118 00:13:51,480 --> 00:13:54,880 Managing to trace numerous witnesses to the events for the first time 119 00:13:55,920 --> 00:13:59,880 But one important piece of the puzzle, still needed to be placed 120 00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:09,080 I found from the local police, that they had actually been called out by the airbase, on the night of the first incident 121 00:14:09,080 --> 00:14:18,000 And it turned out to have been in the early hours of December the 26th and Colonel Halt’s memo had actually got the date wrong, by a day 122 00:14:18,680 --> 00:14:23,800 The discovery of the police file would prove to be a turning point in the case, for many reasons 123 00:14:24,520 --> 00:14:29,040 The dates recorded in the Halt Memo, have created a huge amount of confusion, 124 00:14:29,040 --> 00:14:32,200 exacerbating problems researching the case 125 00:14:32,200 --> 00:14:37,880 and also hindering disclosure attempts for files, believed to be held at the MOD... 126 00:14:41,760 --> 00:14:49,160 I knew that there was this unit, at the Ministry of Defence that had been responsible for collecting these stories and investigating them 127 00:14:49,160 --> 00:14:55,160 because I’d actually written to them, I’d sent some of the stories through And had a response! 128 00:14:55,160 --> 00:15:00,600 It was like weird, you know, you get this brown envelope “ on Her Majesty’s Service” you know, from the UFO unit 129 00:15:00,600 --> 00:15:06,480 I thought well, there’s all this stuff about Rendlesham Forest we’d known about it since the News of the World, broke the story in ‘83 130 00:15:06,480 --> 00:15:11,360 There’d been all this speculation about, what does the government know? Why are they covering this up? 131 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:17,240 And I thought, well why has no one actually tried to make a request, to see what they’ve got on file? 132 00:15:17,240 --> 00:15:29,440 So, one of the first times I made a formal request under this pre FOI legislation, which must have been about 2000, was for the Rendlesham Forest Incident 133 00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:31,720 And I thought, well I could make a good story out of this 134 00:15:31,720 --> 00:15:36,760 Many of the attempts made to access the Rendlesham files, had been largely misplaced 135 00:15:36,760 --> 00:15:40,280 This led to speculation, that a cover up had to have been in place 136 00:15:40,280 --> 00:15:47,520 But it was still quite a big breakthrough at the time, I just couldn’t believe my eyes when this, big thick envelope dropped through my letterbox one day 137 00:15:47,520 --> 00:15:53,040 and I opened it up and it was…this is the Rendlesham file that people had been looking for for years! 138 00:15:53,040 --> 00:15:59,320 ( interference, TV news broadcast ) An incident called the Rendlesham Forest Incident, also known as Britains Roswell, this was in 1980 139 00:15:59,320 --> 00:16:04,760 ( interference ) For almost 60 years the Ministry of Defence logged our fuzzy pictures and close encounters 140 00:16:04,760 --> 00:16:11,840 ( interference ) More than 4,000 pages of material from the National Archives have been released, covering much of the 1980’s ( fading away ) 141 00:16:12,400 --> 00:16:18,480 At the time, it was widely assumed that the smoking gun evidence for Rendlesham would be radar records 142 00:16:18,480 --> 00:16:24,520 However when Dave Clarke began to prepare the files for release, he discovered an alternate picture 143 00:16:24,520 --> 00:16:33,120 A key problem with the radar evidence, is that the actual dates for the event that are recorded in Colonel Halts Memo…in the famous Memo 144 00:16:33,120 --> 00:16:42,160 Were wrong! So, because the MOD didn’t take the opportunity to actually interview Colonel Halt and get him to itemise 145 00:16:42,160 --> 00:16:47,400 exactly what had happened and when it had happened they were relying upon what he’d put in the memo 146 00:16:47,400 --> 00:16:55,480 The 27th of December 1980, is the initial sighting and the 29th of December as the second sighting, now we now know 147 00:16:55,480 --> 00:17:04,440 in hindsight, that both of those dates were wrong So when the Ministry of Sound circulated Col. Halts memo 148 00:17:04,440 --> 00:17:09,160 to the various air defence stations, whose job it was to check if anything had been seen on radar 149 00:17:09,160 --> 00:17:12,560 They were obviously working, to two wrong dates 150 00:17:12,560 --> 00:17:17,080 Several radar stations had tracked objects across southern England on Christmas evening 151 00:17:17,080 --> 00:17:23,200 hours before the first sighting in the memo. Although these may have been significant, as we’ll learn later 152 00:17:23,200 --> 00:17:26,160 the remaining evidence was scant at best 153 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:32,560 Eastern Radar was the other radar station, RAF Watton, who were involved 154 00:17:32,560 --> 00:17:38,840 They responded…the Squadron Leader, Derek Coumbe who was in charge on that particular night 155 00:17:38,840 --> 00:17:45,040 He does actually say in his response, that on the night of the reported sighting this was the night that Col. Halt was out in the forest 156 00:17:45,040 --> 00:17:50,800 and he actually patched through a call to Eastern Radar via the control tower at Bentwaters 157 00:17:50,800 --> 00:17:56,280 And he says in this memo and this is a contemporary document 26th of February, 1981 158 00:17:56,280 --> 00:18:05,880 “On the night of that reported sighting, our controller on duty was requested to review the radar..nothing was observed..the facts are recorded in our log book” 159 00:18:05,880 --> 00:18:12,080 So we now know..we can say for certain, that on the night that Col. Halt was out in the forest in particular 160 00:18:12,080 --> 00:18:19,560 that the RAF did actually check the radar picture at the time the events were unfolding and that nothing was seen on radar 161 00:18:19,560 --> 00:18:26,160 Now, we now know in retrospect, that there was two incidents so there’s nothing in these papers that actually 162 00:18:26,160 --> 00:18:31,120 tell us..you know, whether any checks were made on that initial evening 163 00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:41,280 It does seem that…all down to the fact that they didn’t follow up Halt’s memo 164 00:18:41,280 --> 00:18:46,280 If they’d have gone and actually done a proper investigation they would actually got to the facts in the first place 165 00:18:46,280 --> 00:18:55,440 and they didn’t even seem to be aware, from this file, that the local police.. the Suffolk police, had gone out there and been called in the early hours of Boxing Day 166 00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:08,360 The overturning of the MOD files on Rendlesham, if anything, seemed to highlight the MODs bemusement and confusion 167 00:19:08,360 --> 00:19:12,480 Their investigation appeared to be a blunder, rather than cover up 168 00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:19,800 There’s a document that dates from about 1984, a policy document which they used to brief Lord Hill Norton 169 00:19:19,800 --> 00:19:24,840 who was a retired Admiral, who was absolutely obsessed by UFO’s in retirement 170 00:19:24,840 --> 00:19:28,640 and he was constantly asking questions in the House of Lords about Rendlesham 171 00:19:28,640 --> 00:19:35,680 and they actually briefed him on the subject, secretly at the MOD, around 1984 and that to me, is the most significant document 172 00:19:35,680 --> 00:19:39,760 because they effectively say..” The reason we didn’t take it seriously 173 00:19:39,760 --> 00:19:42,720 is because Col. Halt didn’t take it seriously!” 174 00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:48,000 The MODs lack of urgency on the subject, seems to have stemmed from the presentation of the Halt Memo 175 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:54,040 Halt wrote the memo to present to Donald Moreland, RAF liaison officer for the twin bases, in January 176 00:19:54,040 --> 00:19:57,160 ... a full 2 weeks after the incidents occurred! 177 00:19:57,160 --> 00:20:04,040 If..Col. Halt and his men, when they’d seen these lights in the sky had taken it seriously, they wouldn’t have just spent all night 178 00:20:04,040 --> 00:20:07,120 wandering around in the fields and then effectively gone back to bed! 179 00:20:07,120 --> 00:20:14,160 They would have pressed the panic button They would have scrambled the RAF…there would have been escalation 180 00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:20,160 The Ministry of Defence’s attitude that you can piece together from all these 181 00:20:20,160 --> 00:20:23,720 bits of paper, was that…he didn’t do that..he didn’t escalate 182 00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:29,800 he kept it really low key, he waited for the British Base Commander to come back from Christmas holiday, two weeks later 183 00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:39,120 sort of walked into his office and said “ oh by the way Don, the aliens landed over Christmas, but I didn’t want to disturb your holiday” you know! 184 00:20:39,120 --> 00:20:46,600 The lack of urgency is even more surprising given that physical evidence was being offered by Halt from the alleged landing site 185 00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:54,520 ( click..radio recordings )” each one of these trees that face into the blast what we assume is a landing site, all have an abrasion.. 186 00:20:54,520 --> 00:21:01,200 I’ve never seen a tree, a pine tree that’s been damaged, react that fast…( click ) need a bottle to put that in “ 187 00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:06,040 The radiation readings, in particular, have become a point of contention 188 00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:08,920 with the type of meter being used, called into question 189 00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:13,720 Now, there's been a lot of controversy about this, but if you listen to the tape it’s very clear 190 00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:21,920 ( click..radio/tape recording ) “ up to seven tenths, or seven ( chatter )..seven units that’s going on the point 5 scale.. 191 00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:31,320 It's at the very lowest level of what that radiation meter, was capable of detecting It was a meter that was supposed to be detecting major nuclear blasts 192 00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:38,200 radiation spills..for civil defence purposes not normal everyday levels of radiation 193 00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:41,080 ( tape recording )”..this is an awkward thing to use isn’t it? “ 194 00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:52,880 With so many locals seeing lights over Christmas and the dates now known 195 00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:57,520 the sightings increasingly became linked together as one event 196 00:21:57,520 --> 00:22:02,640 I was able to approach Dr John Mason, of the British Astronomical meteor section 197 00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:07,960 and I asked him “ were there any records of any bright fireballs around that time “ 198 00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:14,520 and he said " yes, there was one at 3AM on the 26th “ and he read the press reports too 199 00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:18,320 and I still remember him this to me on the phone…he said “ I knew they’d got the date wrong! “ 200 00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:26,760 John Masons report, consisted of observations by amateur astronomers, who had observed several bright fireballs 201 00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:31,840 The brightest of which, exploded in a shower of light at 02.50 on Boxing Day 202 00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:36,200 The exact time that something was seen to land in the forest 203 00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:54,200 The most significant sighting that night, came at 9.20 on Christmas evening 204 00:22:54,200 --> 00:23:03,160 The booster stage of a Russian satellite ..Kosmos 749 had re-entered the atmosphere and slowly disintegrated over Southern England 205 00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:09,120 It’s final remnants were thought to have landed in the North Sea, within 20 miles of Rendlesham 206 00:23:09,120 --> 00:23:14,120 There was this spectacularreentry of this Russian Cosmos satellite over southern England 207 00:23:14,120 --> 00:23:19,800 It was seen by hundreds of people and it was like big sort of fireball moving through the sky 208 00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:29,440 and it was widely reported in the news It was on TV and all the tabloids and local and regional news covered this 209 00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:34,520 The Cosmos re-entry itself, can’t have been responsible for the sightings in the Halt memo 210 00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:42,520 But, it is possible, that this spectacular display of Christmas lights may of had at least.. some influence 211 00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:49,000 ( trailer narrator voice ) “ The title of the picture Close Encounters of the Third Kind 212 00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:51,680 refers to an intriguing possibility 213 00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:55,800 Well a close encounter of the first kind, is close but nothing really happens 214 00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:59,320 Close encounter of the first kind, is visible contact with UFO 215 00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:02,600 Forget the shape and how fast it’s going, it’s something you just can’t explain 216 00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:06,360 Close encounters of the second kind, are those which leave a physical trace 217 00:24:06,360 --> 00:24:07,600 holes in the ground….. 218 00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:08,880 burn rings….. 219 00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:09,920 broken tree branches….. 220 00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:10,840 telephone lines down….. 221 00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:12,000 animals disturbed….. 222 00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:13,880 stopping of car engines….. 223 00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:17,600 and the close encounters of the third kind are the most interesting of all 224 00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:21,440 Close encounters of the third kind… 225 00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:24,600 is really when you meet ‘em 226 00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:33,160 On the run up to Christmas Close Encounters special edition had played in one of the local cinemas 227 00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:39,040 It shares so many of the UFO cliches with the Rendlesham story, that it is hard to ignore 228 00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:43,840 The films impact on popular culture at the time, was far reaching and along with Star Wars 229 00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:47,120 spawned a new age of sci fi culture 230 00:24:47,120 --> 00:24:50,600 One that even reached into the political realm 231 00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:59,440 Our differences worldwide, would vanish, if we were facing an alien threat from outside this world 232 00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:05,200 and yet I ask you, is not an alien force already among us? 233 00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:08,080 It was in a school yard with about 20 other men 234 00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:14,400 and we saw a bright light appear in the distant, western skies 235 00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:20,320 Along with Saturn 3,The Man Who Fell To Earth and Return from Witch Mountain 236 00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:26,520 playing in local theatres that December, was the cult sci fi film...Hangar 18 237 00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:36,520 Significantly, the plot of the film revolved around a captured alien spacecraft, held at USAF base 238 00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:39,480 The spacecraft contained hieroglyphic insignia 239 00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:45,760 Not completely dissimilar to Jim Pennistons sketches that he “claims” to have made during the sighting 240 00:25:56,920 --> 00:26:02,000 While it’s difficult to prove a direct link between pop culture at the time and the sightings.... 241 00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:05,120 it does at least set the stage, for some dramatic theories 242 00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:19,800 The twin bases of RAF Woodbridge and Bentwaters, were leased to the USAF in the 1950’s 243 00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:26,040 In 1980 they were home to the 81st Tactical Fighter Wing, operating close air support during the cold war 244 00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:33,560 The 81st’s key asset, were their squadron of A10 thunderbolts, commonly known as the “tank busters” 245 00:26:35,120 --> 00:26:39,320 The principle witnesses were from base security and police, tasked with guarding the base 246 00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:47,080 Close to the East Gate, where the incidents took place were the 67th Aerospace Rescue and Recovery squadron 247 00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:58,480 Many of the 67th, known as the night owls, had returned from Vietnam, along with their C130 carriers and Jolly Green Giants 248 00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:07,000 As well general rescue, they were tasked with special operations, arial refuelling 249 00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:11,960 and recovery of space missions, including the Apollo and and Space Shuttle programs 250 00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:18,520 It’s possible, they were involved in the capture of film canisters, from the then top secret satellite program...Hexagon 251 00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:25,640 Hexagons design incorporated film pods, which when ejected, re-entered the earths atmosphere, and were captured mid air. 252 00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:29,360 But, there is no evidence that these missions took place over the UK 253 00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:37,160 A crashed Soviet satellite recovery has also been alluded to Again involving the 67th 254 00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:44,240 but no records exist to explain this. Even though the remnants of the Russian booster stage fellinto the sea that night 255 00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:48,040 Was there an incident involving stealth? 256 00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:53,520 The early Stealth fighters were being flown at the time and any recovery would have involved the ARRS 257 00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:56,080 But again, no records 258 00:27:57,120 --> 00:28:01,520 So what about a hoax? Pranks were certainly a thing at the twin bases? 259 00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:07,640 Considering their proximity to the forest... Why have no members of the 67th come forward and spoken about this event? 260 00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:10,000 Could it be they knew something? 261 00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:15,960 As part of their training involved preparation for space rescues the unit had an apollo capsule at their disposal 262 00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:20,880 These capsules, known as boilerplates were used for demonstrations and training missions 263 00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:23,400 So, here’s the idea... 264 00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:27,560 The boilerplate was hung from one of the helicopters and flown over the forest ... as an “exercise” 265 00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:31,960 By mistake, it was somehow dropped and a recovery operation from the forest was required 266 00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:34,400 With base security truly left in the dark 267 00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:39,560 The facts are thin, but if anyone could have created the hoax, it would have been the 67th ARRS 268 00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:50,120 ( military film narrator ) " Let's just say I prayed a little... on my own account and for those guys at search and air rescue “ 269 00:28:53,760 --> 00:29:02,080 Along with barn owls and burning manure. One of the more bizarre theories seems to have come from an attempt to fool researcher Dave Clarke 270 00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:09,800 An anonymous letter..post marked the 30th of March, 2015 which arrived on the 1st of April 271 00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:13,280 draw your own conclusions, but anyway, quite an elaborate two page letter 272 00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:21,240 The anonymous source, claimed to be a member Britains notorious special ops unit, The SAS 273 00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:26,600 And on one occasion, this must of been in the summer of 1980 274 00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:31,560 We were airlifted in..middle of the night, dropped on to the perimeter of the base 275 00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:36,680 and our mission was to penetrate the American defences get into the base without them seeing us 276 00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:44,280 to see how good they were at defending Unfortunately they were very good at defending the perimeter and we were captured 277 00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:49,720 treated them really off handedly and basically referred to them as “Enemy Aliens “ 278 00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:53,280 and he said that this word “Aliens” stuck in their minds 279 00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:59,440 So after this ordeal and they’d got back to their base they thought right, we’’l show these Americans a thing or two 280 00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:01,600 and we’’l show them some real aliens 281 00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:07,640 So, what they decided to do, was go back a few nights later penetrate their defences again 282 00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:13,800 and they took all these sort of flash bangs and pyrotechnics and they sent up balloons with lights attached 283 00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:16,840 and showed them a real alien invasion 284 00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:21,280 So, this letter was basically saying, this is what caused the UFO incidents we the SAS 285 00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:25,920 were playing a hoax on the Americans, to get our own back for what they did to us 286 00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:40,920 I have been able to ascertain, that there was some kind of incident where the SAS did get into some kind of confrontation from the americans 287 00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:46,320 when they were actually testing the defences of the base I think about August 1980 288 00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:49,040 So that incident did actually happen 289 00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:52,520 and Georgina Bruni wrote about it in her book 290 00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:56,880 So I wouldn’t be at all surprised if somebody who’s very familiar with the story 291 00:30:56,880 --> 00:30:59,840 So I wouldn’t be at all surprised if somebody who’s very familiar with the story had read that in Georgina Bruni’s book 292 00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:04,920 and then concocted this elaborate tale and sent it to me based upon that 293 00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:12,640 thinking that if I checked it out, I’d find the reference in Georgina Bruni’s book and think..ooh! That corroborates what this guys saying 294 00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:16,160 ( alien voice ) You are a clever man doctor…perhaps too clever 295 00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:31,960 Despite these and a mountain of alternate theories put forward to explain the events, there is only one that has really stuck 296 00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:36,600 and it could be argued, it has become …Rendlesham’s Nemesis 297 00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:52,000 I spoke to one of the foresters, who was called Vince Thurkettle who lived within about a mile of the incident 298 00:31:52,000 --> 00:32:01,760 and, er..he said to me..he’d obviously been thinking about it himself and he said “ do you really want to know the answer or are you a journalist looking fro a story?” 299 00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:04,480 I said well no, I really would like to know the answer 300 00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:08,240 and he said to me “ I think it was the lighthouse “ 301 00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:13,920 and I nearly fell of my chair! Because the News of the World no-one who’d investigated this case before 302 00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:16,200 had said anything about a lighthouse! 303 00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:25,760 On the face of it, it seems absurd that military personnel, guarding a strategic facility 304 00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:29,000 could be fooled by the beam of a lighthouse 305 00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:35,280 And it turned out as well that the police who’d been called out on the first night 306 00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:40,640 They came to the site and the only lights they could see were the lights from the Orfordness lighthouse 307 00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:45,840 and the marks in the ground that they were shown looked to them, like they were made by some kind of an animal 308 00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:54,440 So we had the locals, the local police and the local forester coming to exactly the same interpretation of what it was the airmen had seen 309 00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:59,000 So really this case was starting to seem not very mysterious after all 310 00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:03,600 Ian Ridpath’s lighthouse explanation, has been ridiculed by many Ufologists, 311 00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:06,840 so why has it stuck so hard to the story? 312 00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:16,520 The light that Col Halt saw flashing, he described as lying across the adjoining farmers field, almost in line with the farmhouse 313 00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:26,280 The light that Col Halt saw flashing, he described as lying across the adjoining farmers field, almost in line with the farmhouse on the other side of a field 314 00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:31,440 The route taken by the airmen on the 1st night is well documented in the statements from the time 315 00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:38,640 But this is complicated by large parts of the forest being unrecognisable now, compared with 1980 316 00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:47,960 Thanks to planting data from the period, it’s now possible to match their approximate route out from East Gate, on a more or less easterly course 317 00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:56,600 Upon reaching a clearing, the 3 airmen saw the object in the trees ahead and then proceeded in 318 00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:05,920 It’s in this lower area of the forest, where we now find the now well known landing site 319 00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:12,280 After this encounter the airmen then moved out to the edge of the forest and the farmers fields beyond, in pursuit of a light 320 00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:17,600 And, as we find from the eye witness reports, of one of the eyewitnesses 321 00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:22,080 he said “ well we got..we followed it so far and it was coming from a lighthouse 322 00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:27,800 John Burroughs has always maintained that he viewed something else, as well as the lighthouse 323 00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:31,760 Jumped over, got down by the farmers house, saw the beacon 324 00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:34,320 kept going out, cause we were trying to see if we could see it again 325 00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:36,120 cause we wanted to see what we saw again 326 00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:39,920 but we went towards the beacon..and I call it a beacon by the way! 327 00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:44,240 but I clearly have a memory of coming up, chasing it seeing a beacon on and off 328 00:34:44,240 --> 00:34:49,040 you know..flashing..we didn’t loose it a lot, but there were points when you got a little lower and didn’t see it 329 00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:58,000 but we climbed up to the top of a hill and I remember looking down into a valley, seeing the lighthouse itself and saying “ that’s the lighthouse “ 330 00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:04,080 The lighthouses visibility from the forest has been hotly contested, mainly due to the shielding of the beam 331 00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:08,960 The beam shield was put in place, to protect the nearby village of Orford from the bright light 332 00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:14,880 But the shield, still allowed the beam to shine directly to the east, in the direction of Rendlesham forest 333 00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:19,200 This confusion, plus John’s admission, both in his statements and testaments 334 00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:23,640 has made it difficult to match his sightings of the object with those of the lighthouse 335 00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:27,720 However, with Colonel Halts testimony and subsequent claims from the second night 336 00:35:27,720 --> 00:35:32,600 it’s become clearer to see how he and his men, could have mistaken the lighthouse 337 00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:38,440 He was standing at pretty much the same place, on the forest edge He was seeing the same light 338 00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:48,560 and from his tape recording, we hear that he..he takes a a compass bearing on it, of 110 degrees 339 00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:52,280 which is within about 10 degrees of where the lighthouse actually is 340 00:35:52,280 --> 00:36:01,160 and he also sees it flashing like a winking eye, every 5 seconds and 5 seconds is the flashing rate of the Orfordness lighthouse 341 00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:06,160 ( click..radio/tape recording ) You just saw alight?..Where? ..Slow down..where? 342 00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:13,080 right on this position here..straight ahead, in between the tr…there it is again 343 00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:17,480 watch straight ahead off my flash light there..there it is..yeah I see it too 344 00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:22,000 The clearing was used as a staging post for investigations by Halt and his team 345 00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:24,960 which went on into the early hours of the 28th 346 00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:30,680 ( click..radio chatter/tape recording ) East Gate ( click )..you don’t have a lightlall?..(indistinct) 347 00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:34,760 ( click )..2 other personal requesting to ride out ( indistinct )..at your location 348 00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:42,320 It’s assumed that there were up 20-30 personal in the forest that night, with some wanting to join the main investigation 349 00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:46,840 ( click )..okay well why don’t you take a picture of that and then be writing this down.. it’s gonna be on the tape 350 00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:51,720 Halt’s group eventually move out to the edge of the forest, into the farmers fields beyond 351 00:36:51,720 --> 00:36:55,600 ( click )..let’s move out the edge of the clearing so we can get a better look at it.. 352 00:36:55,600 --> 00:37:01,720 ..okay we’re looking at the thing, we’re probably about 2-300 yards away it looks like an eye winking at you..it’s still moving from side to side.. 353 00:37:01,720 --> 00:37:10,520 ..when you put the starscope on it.. it sort of has a hollow centre a dark centre..like the pupil of an eye. looking at you winking 354 00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:18,400 One point worth making, is that when I did my first investigation Col Halts tape recording hadn’t been released 355 00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:24,920 and when Col Halts tape recording came out, it could have completely demolished my explanation, because 356 00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:32,520 they could have said something like “ oh there’s the lighthouse and the UFO is just 10 degrees off to the right “ 357 00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:37,120 But the remarkable thing is, on Col Halt’s tape they never the lighthouse 358 00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:46,080 ( tape recording )..it is coming this way..it is definitely coming this way… pieces of it are shooting off..there is no doubt about it..this is weird 359 00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:53,480 And at one stage on his tape, Col Halt, as they go towards it they loose sight of it 360 00:37:53,480 --> 00:38:00,520 Col Halt says it’s broken up, but it hasn’t broken up because later on he says we’ve caught sight of it again 361 00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:05,840 ( click )..2.44..we’re at the far side of the second farmers field.. 362 00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:12,400 made sighting again at about 110 degrees, this looks like it’s clear off to the coast, it’s right on the horizon 363 00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:18,600 and it looks like it’s clear off to the coast Now what lays on the coast and flashes? 364 00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:29,320 Following the Halt Tape, the MOD document release, the patchy radar evidence and theories such as the lighthouse becoming established... 365 00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:35,120 It appeared that the promise of this becoming the Holy Grail of UFO cases had really come to an end 366 00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:41,880 It’s initial impact in the media, falling flat over the following few years probably to become a small footnote history.. 367 00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:48,040 but some stories are just too good to let the facts get in the way 368 00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:51,360 They are the ones born to become legends.. 369 00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:09,680 ( Wind blowing in trees..voice echoes ) 370 00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:15,040 Well we thought we had it all sewn up, you know..with what had happened what the British witnesses saw and everything 371 00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:23,120 then as soon as the News of the World came onboard they started saying things and that and then got in touch with the American witnesses 372 00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:31,040 that’s when it all went sort of like pear shaped, that’s when one was telling one thing and one was telling the other, you know..their stories didn’t gel 373 00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:35,120 ( music/wind sounds...) 374 00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:30,880 ( racing car sound approaching ) 375 00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:42,920 In 2005, to mark the 25th anniversary of the incident, The Forestry commission created a UFO trail 376 00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:51,680 The trail passes some of the sighting locations It includes themed play areas and since 2014, a UFO sculpture 377 00:40:51,680 --> 00:41:00,160 The trail helps to bring thousands visitors to the forest centre, which become a major tourist attraction 378 00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:07,840 The undeniable beauty of the area, seems at odds it’s mysterious and strange past 379 00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:14,560 Over the intervening years the forest seems to have evolved, much like the story itself 380 00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:20,120 a story that has helped it become a must see in this area of Suffolk 381 00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:24,920 And indeed, the story has evolved 382 00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:32,160 ( Wind in the trees..voice echoes.. ) 383 00:41:38,240 --> 00:41:44,840 I wasn't happy with the alien part, the way it came out, cause I never felt I saw aliens or anything like that 384 00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:50,760 and I also wasn’t happy with the debunkers saying we saw the lighthouse just wasn’t happy with it 385 00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:56,000 So the years went by, I came over here once, did something with Strange But True 386 00:41:56,000 --> 00:42:02,560 you know and at the beginning, people need to understand this too they say the stories evolved, well it has, because at the beginning 387 00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:05,240 most people are trying to say something happened 388 00:42:05,240 --> 00:42:11,560 But my goal was, about 4 years ago to try and get us all together there was always something that ate away at me 389 00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:21,200 that there was a lot more to this you know and I wanted to find some proof to it to help justify it and I thought getting us together would be the first step 390 00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:47,800 How Penniston was able to have this unique experience, when only separated from the other witnesses by a few yards, has become yet another twist of the story 391 00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:54,160 Penniston also believes they had 45 minutes of missing time which John Burroughs can’t account for 392 00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:57,680 I said I don’t remember him doing it and now sure how it could have happened 393 00:42:57,680 --> 00:43:03,960 Now, over the years you put together…Buran said there was 45 minutes where they lost us on the radio…didn’t say it was missing time 394 00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:09,200 when we came back, I kew that my watch was 45 minutes slow 395 00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:14,920 The timings are noted in the statement by Fred Buran, who was monitoring their radio signals from the forest 396 00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:19,480 But his watch was the same way, so we were 45 minutes behind in real time? 397 00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:25,960 But, Pennistons claims seem so at odds and fantastical, that many followers have begun to have serious doubts 398 00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:31,440 Compounding the fallout from this, a statement was to emerge from the man in charge of the twin bases 399 00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:35,720 and it would be far from confirmatory 400 00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:46,160 The actual Base Commander was a guy called Ted Conrad, who was from Texas 401 00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:53,600 and he was there throughout the incident and he was the person who was actually in charge during this whole period 402 00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:58,120 and if there was any sort of investigation or inquiry, he would have been the one who launched it 403 00:43:58,120 --> 00:44:03,760 in fact, he was the one who actually sent Col Halt out into the forest with the other security police 404 00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:07,840 Following years of radio silence, Conrad eventually responded to Dave Clarke 405 00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:11,520 He made a statement, giving his own account of the events, as he remembered them 406 00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:17,080 Whilst it seemed he roughly backed up Halts timeline his recollection was at odds with the later accounts 407 00:44:17,080 --> 00:44:20,520 He basically said that while Halt was out in the forest…. 408 00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:27,000 Basically there had been an investigation, that he’d ordered it, an informal one but he’d not escalated it 409 00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:47,480 Penniston had told him that he’d never got close enough to this thing to see what it was 410 00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:50,800 but that it looked mechanical and it looked like the shape of a jeep 411 00:44:50,800 --> 00:45:00,080 Now..if you read Jim Pennistons story now, he actually went up to it, touched it he had this download of binary code into his head and all this kind of thing 412 00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:04,560 that’s all come out subsequently, but Conrad was saying “ This just sounds like science fiction to me “ 413 00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:12,080 You know..at the time no-one came out with any of this we just had this basic thing about lights being seen in the forest 414 00:45:12,080 --> 00:45:19,760 But most damning of all, was the revelation that Conrad and other senior officials had a very different memory of Halts encounter 415 00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:37,200 Conrad and all these other special constables and what have you, were out looking in the same direction that Halt was looking, couldn’t see a thing in the sky 416 00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:47,840 They were talking to each other on radio, they were speaking to the control tower they were asking the radar operator, can you see anything, where Halts looking? 417 00:46:08,520 --> 00:46:13,720 Since Ted Conrads account became public, Charles Halt has countered some of his claims 418 00:46:13,720 --> 00:46:18,880 in a book titled the Halt Perspective, Halt refutes many of the claims made against him 419 00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:24,320 While Halt would not go on camera for this film, he did express his feelings about the way others had responded to him 420 00:46:41,080 --> 00:46:48,880 It's a shame, because what they need to do, is all get together, get their stories straight 421 00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:52,200 you know..and so maybe we can get an answer 422 00:46:52,200 --> 00:46:55,680 Jim Penniston has diverged further from the other witness accounts 423 00:46:55,680 --> 00:47:00,440 publishing his own book, attempting to offer further proof of his contact story 424 00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:05,840 Larry Warren, whose book Left at East Gate, gives his own differing account 425 00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:10,640 Warrens involvement, has been widely disputed by fellow witnesses and researchers 426 00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:16,120 It actually floated….to make it more complicated…umm.. 427 00:47:16,120 --> 00:47:18,360 Beings?….beings, exactly 428 00:47:18,360 --> 00:47:21,360 He is widely acknowledged as being the whistleblower for the story 429 00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:26,400 but his account of alien beings and his involvement have increasingly been called into question 430 00:47:26,400 --> 00:47:33,400 Larry has given us different directions, different times, different witnesses nearly every time 431 00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:37,200 We actually got him on tape saying he wasn’t there until the 30th 432 00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:42,000 In an attempt to confirm his story, Larry is currently involved in the production of a film on the incident 433 00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:51,400 I didn't imagine 30 years ago, that you know 2 people would be interested in this let alone all you people on a bank holiday weekend 434 00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:57,760 If you’ve come to the conclusion that this story has grown a lot of branches 435 00:47:57,760 --> 00:48:02,040 well, the Rendlesham Incident is truly, the gift that keeps on giving 436 00:48:02,040 --> 00:48:07,480 In a new twist, it appears that John Burroughs has made in roads with the US Gov. over health claims 437 00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:10,000 which he says are related to the incident 438 00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:15,440 Immediately after the incident, I didn’t feel good. You know, I kind of felt tired, dragging, not the greatest 439 00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:21,120 And I started having some throat problems, some vision problems and ..um 440 00:48:21,120 --> 00:48:25,760 At one point my mouth, my whole mouth turned white and my gums turned white and stuff 441 00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:32,960 John was diagnosed some years later with a heart murmur.During his medical treatment, multiple other issues became apparent 442 00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:39,400 It was during this period, that he was to discover that something was amiss with his medical file 443 00:48:39,400 --> 00:48:46,200 The first response back was, your medical records aren’t where they belong and your personel files, where they should be..you’re retired 444 00:48:46,200 --> 00:48:52,600 But they were able to get me to a doctor, a VA doctor, who got some information 445 00:48:52,600 --> 00:48:57,840 that made em realise, exactly what they were dealing with 446 00:48:57,840 --> 00:49:04,200 In 2018, John received a settlement for his health problems, from the DOD and VA..... 447 00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:07,680 the search for his medical files is still ongoing 448 00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:19,000 With this ever expanding narrative, the story has become increasingly difficult to navigate 449 00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:23,480 Becoming a minefield, even for the most devoted students 450 00:49:25,040 --> 00:49:30,960 Some of the witnesses have changed their story, new bits of story have come out which we hadn’t heard.. 451 00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:37,480 and really what we’re seeing, is the creation of a modern myth and I don’t think it will ever die 452 00:49:37,480 --> 00:49:42,880 Much like the tree roots that run throughout the forest, the story has grown out in so many directions 453 00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:47,200 that any sense of closure, appears increasingly unlikely 454 00:49:47,200 --> 00:49:52,440 Leaving us to decide for ourselves, which version of the accounts please us the most 455 00:49:52,440 --> 00:49:57,600 Now it may have been a lighthouse, it may have been some other natural phenomena 456 00:49:57,600 --> 00:50:00,360 but that’s beside the point. 457 00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:14,120 There's two things involved..there’s the few certain facts, that you can ascertain, from the original documents and from their statements 458 00:50:14,120 --> 00:50:17,960 that they made at the time and there’s the legend, which it’s become 459 00:50:17,960 --> 00:50:23,680 because the more they tell it, the more it becomes elaborated and that creates the legend 460 00:50:33,480 --> 00:50:39,400 Unfortunately, we’ve reached this impasse..there are people who can only see it in black and white 461 00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:45,440 It’s either..aliens or people from the future came here and landed in Rendlesham Forest 462 00:50:45,440 --> 00:50:54,080 Or, it’s the sceptical version, which is people were all lying or they’d been mislead by ordinary things 463 00:50:54,080 --> 00:51:00,640 It’s either one, or the other and I don’t see it like that at all I see it as the thing is a legend which is.. 464 00:51:00,640 --> 00:51:04,400 all they constituent parts of it, play a part in creating the legend 465 00:51:09,720 --> 00:51:15,440 So does the Rendlesham forest Incident, deserve a place alongside tother great British legends 466 00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:18,480 such as Loch Ness and King Arthur 467 00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:23,000 Dave Clarke and others believe it to be worthy of the title 468 00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:28,280 After all, it has grown legs and run for nearly 40 years 469 00:51:28,280 --> 00:51:30,560 Despite it’s major inconsistencies 470 00:51:34,200 --> 00:51:40,520 Or have the inconsistencies and embellishments helped to elevate the story 471 00:51:40,520 --> 00:51:44,680 Tapping into the collective consciousness at just the right moment 472 00:51:44,680 --> 00:51:48,080 When we actually look at what's the evidence for King Arthur, there isn't any 473 00:51:48,080 --> 00:51:54,760 There’s a piece of rock with Arthur scratched on it that somebody found buried in Cornwall 474 00:51:54,760 --> 00:52:02,560 There’s a couple of books, that have survived in the Welsh annals that mentioned a warrior called Arthur, who fought against the Saxons 475 00:52:02,560 --> 00:52:07,440 Books that were written 200 years after the event That’s the evidence for King Arthur 476 00:52:07,440 --> 00:52:10,520 The county of Suffolk is no stranger to legends 477 00:52:10,520 --> 00:52:16,600 Black Shuck, the devil dog that roamed the Suffolk countryside is a tale well told 478 00:52:16,600 --> 00:52:22,920 it’s reign of terror on Blytheburgh church, is even recorded in parish records 479 00:52:22,920 --> 00:52:27,240 Be it the old man of Orford or the mysterious marsh lights seen throughout the ages 480 00:52:27,240 --> 00:52:31,440 this region has always thrived on it’s strange tales 481 00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:35,480 I absolutely no doubt, that people will be talking about the Rendlesham Forest Incident in the same way 482 00:52:35,480 --> 00:52:38,840 That there was this mystical happening in the forest 483 00:52:38,840 --> 00:52:43,440 and I don’t think it will ever be resolved because there is no way to resolve it 484 00:52:43,440 --> 00:52:45,440 and that’s the definition of a legend 485 00:52:57,920 --> 00:53:01,960 From what started as a simple Christmas tale of lights in the east 486 00:53:01,960 --> 00:53:07,720 a legend has unfolded over the past 40 years and shows no sign of stopping 487 00:53:07,720 --> 00:53:14,640 Facebook groups, forums, chatrooms and countless conferences have grown around Rendlesham 488 00:53:14,640 --> 00:53:21,560 Some may point to Unlimited Financial Opportunity, exploiting the overwhelming need to believe… 489 00:53:21,560 --> 00:53:23,840 .in something 490 00:53:25,760 --> 00:53:31,880 But, as the factions have become more divided, so have the chances of ever finding the truth behind it 491 00:53:31,880 --> 00:53:34,120 whatever that may be 492 00:53:34,120 --> 00:53:38,440 I still think we should all get together, at least one time Agree to disagree on stuff 493 00:53:38,440 --> 00:53:44,280 Not attack each other and get a chronology on everything and try to figure it out and based on all the evidence available now 494 00:53:44,280 --> 00:53:48,920 Try to put it together as best we can. I think it’s the closest we’ll ever get to the truth 495 00:53:48,920 --> 00:53:55,280 John Burroughs has continued his quest for answers, despite other witnesses becoming increasingly hostile 496 00:53:55,280 --> 00:53:59,120 Some researchers have resigned themselves and moved on 497 00:53:59,120 --> 00:54:04,280 But there remains the core storytellers, ever faithful to the Rendlesham cause 498 00:54:04,280 --> 00:54:07,920 I know it’s took over my life, I know it has. 499 00:54:07,920 --> 00:54:14,600 I’ve tried not to go down there and every time not to go down there somebody phones me asks me to go down there 500 00:54:14,600 --> 00:54:18,400 or the newspaper or the radio ( people ) phones me up you know 501 00:54:18,400 --> 00:54:24,360 I’m just drawn down there and when I’m down there, it’s like it’s part of me 502 00:54:24,360 --> 00:54:28,600 Brenda remains committed to helping people look for a resolution 503 00:54:28,600 --> 00:54:33,720 Even if that means ultimately means, never finding one 504 00:54:33,720 --> 00:54:40,920 We can't go back..go back in a time machine, I wish we could and reconstruct what actually happened 505 00:54:40,920 --> 00:54:49,680 People like…they want an explanation for it, but they want it to be a sort of “ Gee whiz! Is that the real explanation! “ “ How surprising “ 506 00:54:49,680 --> 00:54:55,800 and they’re not prepared to accept it’s just ordinary things, that people see in extraordinary circumstances 507 00:54:57,080 --> 00:55:05,080 I must say that after I published my initial investigation In a newspaper…early in 1985 508 00:55:05,080 --> 00:55:07,720 I really thought that would be the end of it 509 00:55:07,720 --> 00:55:15,040 Although I shouldn’t be astonished because, you know.. for the UFO believers this is…you know the holy grail 510 00:55:15,040 --> 00:55:20,640 It is regularly voted one of the 10 best cases in the world 511 00:55:20,640 --> 00:55:26,160 I’ve said they call it the British Roswell, but to me it’s a great deal better than Roswell 512 00:55:26,160 --> 00:55:36,640 because it has…good eye witness testimony, it has documentary evidence we know that something happened, the only question is what happened 513 00:55:36,640 --> 00:55:41,640 If there is one irony to this tale, it’s that arguably, the critics and sceptics 514 00:55:41,640 --> 00:55:44,960 have kept the story alive with their counterpoint 515 00:55:44,960 --> 00:55:49,760 And without that, then this story could have been long forgotten 516 00:55:49,760 --> 00:55:56,000 As it stands, this beautiful forest in Suffolk will continue to be visited by future generations 517 00:55:56,000 --> 00:55:57,880 Looking for answers.. 518 00:55:57,880 --> 00:56:00,560 and maybe, posing new questions 66640

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