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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:01,720 --> 00:00:03,928 [bright tone] 2 00:00:11,053 --> 00:00:14,011 ["Save Me" by Joan Armatrading playing] 3 00:00:14,094 --> 00:00:15,219 ♪ ♪ 4 00:00:15,303 --> 00:00:17,845 - ♪ Sinking ♪ 5 00:00:17,928 --> 00:00:23,720 ♪ Caught up in a whirling motion ♪ 6 00:00:23,803 --> 00:00:27,053 ♪ Such a strange sensation ♪ 7 00:00:27,136 --> 00:00:30,511 ♪ ♪ 8 00:00:30,595 --> 00:00:35,178 ♪ The currents uncertain ♪ 9 00:00:35,261 --> 00:00:38,969 ♪ Like sails of a mill, I spin ♪ 10 00:00:40,969 --> 00:00:43,887 ♪ Like wheels, I move in a circle ♪ 11 00:00:43,969 --> 00:00:46,969 ♪ While you stand ♪ 12 00:00:47,053 --> 00:00:50,011 ♪ On the bank ♪ 13 00:00:50,094 --> 00:00:54,887 ♪ Immune or evasive ♪ 14 00:00:54,969 --> 00:00:56,887 ♪ Throw me a lifeline ♪ 15 00:00:56,969 --> 00:01:01,219 ♪ Save me ♪ 16 00:01:01,303 --> 00:01:06,053 ♪ Save me ♪ 17 00:01:06,136 --> 00:01:08,928 - The Atlanta child murders from 40 years ago 18 00:01:09,011 --> 00:01:10,219 are back in the headlines 19 00:01:10,303 --> 00:01:13,511 as investigators now plan to reexamine the evidence. 20 00:01:13,595 --> 00:01:15,720 The man detectives believe is responsible 21 00:01:15,803 --> 00:01:17,720 is serving two life sentences, 22 00:01:17,803 --> 00:01:20,720 but he was never tried on any of the child murders. 23 00:01:20,803 --> 00:01:22,553 [uneasy music] 24 00:01:22,637 --> 00:01:24,720 - The bodies were linked to his vehicles, 25 00:01:24,803 --> 00:01:26,762 his environment, his house. 26 00:01:26,845 --> 00:01:30,386 The fiber evidence, I think, was the most important 27 00:01:30,470 --> 00:01:33,261 because it basically put a lot of dead bodies 28 00:01:33,345 --> 00:01:36,053 in his environment. 29 00:01:36,136 --> 00:01:39,303 - We can prove emphatically 30 00:01:39,386 --> 00:01:42,511 that Wayne was a pr-- was a homosexual. 31 00:01:42,595 --> 00:01:44,303 He's gone all the time at night. 32 00:01:44,386 --> 00:01:46,219 He driving all these cars. 33 00:01:46,303 --> 00:01:49,928 And even--he got in a fight with his daddy 34 00:01:50,011 --> 00:01:53,762 where, I believe, Homer pulled a shotgun on him. 35 00:01:53,845 --> 00:01:57,470 So stuff like that made Wayne out to be violent. 36 00:01:57,553 --> 00:01:59,762 ♪ ♪ 37 00:01:59,845 --> 00:02:01,428 - Only people I think that can snatch 38 00:02:01,511 --> 00:02:03,887 some black children is white people. 39 00:02:03,969 --> 00:02:06,428 It was kind of crazy how all those kids 40 00:02:06,511 --> 00:02:08,720 end up missing in broad daylight. 41 00:02:08,803 --> 00:02:11,762 You go to a black neighborhood and snatch up a child 42 00:02:11,845 --> 00:02:14,094 in broad daylight, and a black person did it, 43 00:02:14,178 --> 00:02:15,928 they would know who did it, 44 00:02:16,011 --> 00:02:18,845 because we know black people. 45 00:02:18,928 --> 00:02:20,845 It was numerous people that was doing the killing, 46 00:02:20,928 --> 00:02:23,136 a bunch of people that knew each other 47 00:02:23,219 --> 00:02:24,845 and was getting away with it. 48 00:02:24,928 --> 00:02:27,345 ♪ ♪ 49 00:02:27,428 --> 00:02:30,720 - When you look at 30 murders over 23 months, 50 00:02:30,803 --> 00:02:31,969 that's a big deal. 51 00:02:32,053 --> 00:02:34,219 For Atlanta to be able to move forward, 52 00:02:34,303 --> 00:02:37,094 you gotta get rid of this stain. 53 00:02:37,178 --> 00:02:39,553 This stain is still here. 54 00:02:44,386 --> 00:02:45,303 - Good afternoon, 55 00:02:45,386 --> 00:02:47,928 and thank you all for being here today. 56 00:02:48,345 --> 00:02:50,136 In 1979, 57 00:02:50,219 --> 00:02:53,303 I was nine years old. 58 00:02:53,386 --> 00:02:55,720 I was the daughter 59 00:02:55,803 --> 00:02:59,303 of a single mother working two jobs, 60 00:02:59,386 --> 00:03:02,428 and my story 61 00:03:02,511 --> 00:03:04,803 was the story of many children 62 00:03:04,887 --> 00:03:07,386 across this city. 63 00:03:07,470 --> 00:03:09,678 In the backdrop of that story 64 00:03:09,762 --> 00:03:14,386 is something that has stayed with me my entire life, 65 00:03:14,470 --> 00:03:15,845 and that was the era 66 00:03:15,928 --> 00:03:20,386 of Atlanta's missing and murdered children. 67 00:03:20,470 --> 00:03:23,178 And for those of us who grew up in that era, 68 00:03:23,261 --> 00:03:26,386 in so many ways, it shaped our childhood. 69 00:03:26,470 --> 00:03:29,720 It robbed us of our innocence, 70 00:03:29,803 --> 00:03:33,011 and it reminded us all 71 00:03:33,094 --> 00:03:35,845 that evil was real. 72 00:03:35,928 --> 00:03:39,511 - There is something sick about people 73 00:03:39,595 --> 00:03:43,720 who would snatch out the lives 74 00:03:43,803 --> 00:03:45,219 of little children. 75 00:03:45,303 --> 00:03:49,219 Certainly afflicted by a fiendish illness 76 00:03:49,303 --> 00:03:52,053 that is beyond our comprehension. 77 00:03:52,136 --> 00:03:55,762 - A lot has changed in our world since 1981, 78 00:03:55,845 --> 00:03:59,595 when there was a conviction for two of these murders. 79 00:03:59,678 --> 00:04:02,720 A conviction of Wayne Williams. 80 00:04:02,803 --> 00:04:04,553 - Wayne Williams? [stammers] 81 00:04:04,637 --> 00:04:05,845 Who? Are you serious? 82 00:04:05,928 --> 00:04:08,261 Wayne? All these kids? 83 00:04:08,345 --> 00:04:11,553 I mean, half these kids were his size. 84 00:04:11,637 --> 00:04:16,386 - Now, I don't know how that little guy 85 00:04:16,470 --> 00:04:19,928 killed 29 people. 86 00:04:20,011 --> 00:04:21,720 29? 87 00:04:21,803 --> 00:04:22,762 - We have to understand 88 00:04:22,845 --> 00:04:24,553 there's evil in the world, man. 89 00:04:24,637 --> 00:04:26,553 I mean, nobody wants to look at evil and say, 90 00:04:26,637 --> 00:04:29,261 "Oh, why'd he do it?" He liked murdering people. 91 00:04:29,345 --> 00:04:32,219 Wayne liked killing people. 92 00:04:32,303 --> 00:04:33,762 Wayne was a killer, 93 00:04:33,845 --> 00:04:36,428 'cause think, you have to be a killer to kill a kid. 94 00:04:36,511 --> 00:04:38,386 You have to be a killer 95 00:04:38,470 --> 00:04:40,762 to choke the life out of a child. 96 00:04:40,845 --> 00:04:42,637 He wanted to kill them. He killed them 97 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:44,720 because he enjoyed killing people, 98 00:04:44,803 --> 00:04:46,762 and we have to accept that. 99 00:04:46,845 --> 00:04:48,219 - And those are kids. 100 00:04:48,303 --> 00:04:50,720 How can you do that to a child? 101 00:04:50,803 --> 00:04:52,762 ♪ ♪ 102 00:04:52,845 --> 00:04:54,887 Are you human? 103 00:04:54,969 --> 00:04:57,553 Are you beast? What are you? 104 00:04:57,637 --> 00:04:59,428 - And this case is a case of politics-- 105 00:04:59,511 --> 00:05:02,219 I say politics, greed, racism, and oh, yeah, murder. 106 00:05:02,303 --> 00:05:03,511 And they shut the cases down 107 00:05:03,595 --> 00:05:05,678 two days after Wayne was convicted and said, 108 00:05:05,762 --> 00:05:07,136 "Yeah, he's probably done all the rest of them, 109 00:05:07,219 --> 00:05:09,136 but we're not gonna waste anymore time or money." 110 00:05:09,219 --> 00:05:11,553 Okay, thank you, goodbye. Closed the cases. 111 00:05:11,637 --> 00:05:13,178 That was it. Amen, goodbye. 112 00:05:13,261 --> 00:05:16,136 The families never had any closure. 113 00:05:16,219 --> 00:05:17,511 - I commend the mayor 114 00:05:17,595 --> 00:05:19,094 for coming in and saying, "You know what? 115 00:05:19,178 --> 00:05:20,969 "This is a really ugly, dark chapter, 116 00:05:21,053 --> 00:05:22,428 but we need to own it." 117 00:05:22,511 --> 00:05:23,928 The Atlanta Police Department 118 00:05:24,011 --> 00:05:26,595 has numerous boxes of evidence. 119 00:05:26,678 --> 00:05:28,511 We already have begun the process 120 00:05:28,595 --> 00:05:30,261 of going through these boxes 121 00:05:30,345 --> 00:05:33,136 to see if there's anything that was never tested. 122 00:05:33,219 --> 00:05:36,011 Do I think that in some of the cases, 123 00:05:36,094 --> 00:05:38,470 there will be a different suspect? 124 00:05:38,553 --> 00:05:39,428 Yes. 125 00:05:39,511 --> 00:05:41,428 Lieutenant Danny Agan here-- 126 00:05:41,511 --> 00:05:43,303 he was a key investigator, 127 00:05:43,386 --> 00:05:47,345 along with Detective Buffington on the original investigation, 128 00:05:47,428 --> 00:05:50,136 and we spoke with him ahead of time, 129 00:05:50,219 --> 00:05:52,386 and he agreed that it's prudent to review the case. 130 00:05:52,470 --> 00:05:55,178 So I appreciate you being here, Lieutenant. 131 00:05:55,261 --> 00:05:57,887 - Some people will refuse to believe 132 00:05:57,969 --> 00:05:59,553 whatever evidence you throw in front of them, 133 00:05:59,637 --> 00:06:01,303 and I'm convinced right now 134 00:06:01,386 --> 00:06:03,470 that if Wayne Williams confessed today 135 00:06:03,553 --> 00:06:07,511 and says, "Okay, I'ma tell you all, I did it," 136 00:06:07,595 --> 00:06:08,845 there would be people that would say, 137 00:06:08,928 --> 00:06:11,762 "Oh, no. It's not even possible. 138 00:06:11,845 --> 00:06:14,011 - You know, I've been asked a lot of times, 139 00:06:14,094 --> 00:06:15,845 was he guilty? 140 00:06:15,928 --> 00:06:18,011 Did he act guilty? 141 00:06:18,094 --> 00:06:20,511 And I have to say, 142 00:06:20,595 --> 00:06:23,219 he was a lot of things, 143 00:06:23,303 --> 00:06:28,219 and sometimes he made me... 144 00:06:28,303 --> 00:06:31,762 Perhaps it's unladylike, but he made me pissing angry, 145 00:06:31,845 --> 00:06:34,845 because he was difficult, 146 00:06:34,928 --> 00:06:37,053 but while he was a lot of things, 147 00:06:37,136 --> 00:06:39,053 I never saw a killer. 148 00:06:39,136 --> 00:06:41,261 - We don't know what we'll find, 149 00:06:41,345 --> 00:06:43,053 but what we do know is, 150 00:06:43,136 --> 00:06:45,928 we have an obligation to these families 151 00:06:46,011 --> 00:06:49,928 to ensure that every imaginable investigative lead 152 00:06:50,011 --> 00:06:51,219 was followed. 153 00:06:51,303 --> 00:06:53,887 - Doubt. There's always doubt. 154 00:06:53,969 --> 00:06:55,720 And if there's doubt 155 00:06:55,803 --> 00:06:57,887 that Wayne didn't kill my child, 156 00:06:57,969 --> 00:07:00,094 then who did? 157 00:07:00,178 --> 00:07:02,762 How could you not support the mothers? 158 00:07:02,845 --> 00:07:06,428 Obviously, somebody killed their children. 159 00:07:06,511 --> 00:07:11,219 - And I can't stand here today and not call their names. 160 00:07:12,803 --> 00:07:15,928 They were Edward Smith, age 14, 161 00:07:16,011 --> 00:07:17,386 Alfred Evans... [readers echoing names] 162 00:07:17,470 --> 00:07:20,762 Age 13, Milton Harvey, age 14, 163 00:07:20,845 --> 00:07:23,637 Yusuf Bell, age 9, 164 00:07:23,720 --> 00:07:26,762 Angel Lanier, age 12. 165 00:07:26,845 --> 00:07:29,303 Jeffery Mathis, age 10, 166 00:07:29,386 --> 00:07:31,969 Eric Middlebrooks, age 14, 167 00:07:32,053 --> 00:07:34,136 Chris Richardson, age 12, 168 00:07:34,219 --> 00:07:36,928 LaTonya Wilson, age 7, 169 00:07:37,011 --> 00:07:39,428 Anthony Carter, age 9, 170 00:07:39,511 --> 00:07:41,595 Earl Terrell, age 10, 171 00:07:41,678 --> 00:07:43,595 Clifford Jones, 13, 172 00:07:43,678 --> 00:07:47,553 Darron Glass, 10, 173 00:07:47,637 --> 00:07:51,136 Charles Stevens, 12, Aaron Jackson, 9 174 00:07:51,219 --> 00:07:52,969 Patrick Rogers, 16, 175 00:07:53,053 --> 00:07:54,762 Lubie Geter, 14, 176 00:07:54,845 --> 00:07:57,969 Terry Pue, 15, 177 00:07:58,053 --> 00:08:00,928 Patrick...Baltazar, 11. 178 00:08:01,011 --> 00:08:02,428 - 11 years old. 179 00:08:02,511 --> 00:08:04,136 - Joseph Bell, 15, 180 00:08:04,219 --> 00:08:07,428 Timothy Hill, 13. 181 00:08:07,511 --> 00:08:10,637 - Clifford Jones, 13 years old. 182 00:08:10,720 --> 00:08:14,053 Curtis Walker, 13 years old. 183 00:08:16,428 --> 00:08:19,803 - William Barrett, 17. 184 00:08:19,887 --> 00:08:22,261 Adults Eddie Duncan, 21, 185 00:08:22,345 --> 00:08:23,969 Larry Rogers, 20, 186 00:08:24,053 --> 00:08:26,845 Michael McIntosh, 23, 187 00:08:26,928 --> 00:08:28,845 Jimmy Ray Payne, 21, 188 00:08:28,928 --> 00:08:31,136 John Porter, 28, 189 00:08:31,219 --> 00:08:33,678 Nathaniel Cater, 27. 190 00:08:33,762 --> 00:08:40,595 ♪ ♪ 191 00:08:41,094 --> 00:08:43,678 There have been some who've cautioned us 192 00:08:43,762 --> 00:08:46,637 not to touch it, to leave it alone, 193 00:08:46,720 --> 00:08:49,553 which I find very interesting. 194 00:08:49,637 --> 00:08:52,845 You think about the attention that's given now 195 00:08:52,928 --> 00:08:56,303 when a child disappears, you think about the attention 196 00:08:56,386 --> 00:09:00,470 that's been given to JonBenét Ramsey, 197 00:09:00,553 --> 00:09:05,303 and multiply that by an extraordinary number 198 00:09:05,386 --> 00:09:07,803 of children. 199 00:09:07,887 --> 00:09:10,720 - I don't think it's right 200 00:09:10,803 --> 00:09:13,511 for all these kids to be killed in this city 201 00:09:13,595 --> 00:09:15,845 and nobody was concerned about it. 202 00:09:15,928 --> 00:09:19,219 We loved our children, 203 00:09:19,303 --> 00:09:21,969 and it really hurt. 204 00:09:23,803 --> 00:09:26,969 I want to know who killed Curtis. 205 00:09:27,053 --> 00:09:29,094 His case is still sitting on the shelf 206 00:09:29,178 --> 00:09:31,094 getting dusty and rusty, 207 00:09:31,178 --> 00:09:33,762 and you can't see the page. 208 00:09:33,845 --> 00:09:35,595 Anybody hear the sound of my voice, 209 00:09:35,678 --> 00:09:39,762 please, please help us, 210 00:09:39,845 --> 00:09:41,553 because I'm not gonna stop. 211 00:09:41,637 --> 00:09:42,887 'Cause you know why I'm not gonna stop? 212 00:09:42,969 --> 00:09:44,386 Because I'm a warrior, 213 00:09:44,470 --> 00:09:45,969 and I'm a prayer warrior, 214 00:09:46,053 --> 00:09:47,928 and I'm not gonna stop till I get it. 215 00:09:48,011 --> 00:09:51,094 - A fiberglass stretcher was sent to the bridge, 216 00:09:51,178 --> 00:09:53,553 and soon afterward, the body was taken by ambulance 217 00:09:53,637 --> 00:09:55,762 to the DeKalb County medical examiner's office 218 00:09:55,845 --> 00:09:57,094 for identification. 219 00:09:57,178 --> 00:09:58,511 - On Friday afternoon, 220 00:09:58,595 --> 00:10:01,136 about 3:30 or 4:00, 221 00:10:01,219 --> 00:10:03,094 my chief investigator notified me 222 00:10:03,178 --> 00:10:05,595 that they had found what appeared to be the body 223 00:10:05,678 --> 00:10:07,803 of a black child in the river 224 00:10:07,887 --> 00:10:09,428 in the south part of DeKalb County 225 00:10:09,511 --> 00:10:10,762 in Atlanta, Georgia. 226 00:10:10,845 --> 00:10:12,428 - For hours, reporters awaited word 227 00:10:12,511 --> 00:10:15,595 of who the young child in the river might be. 228 00:10:15,678 --> 00:10:18,511 - That was Curtis they pulled out the water. 229 00:10:18,595 --> 00:10:21,470 - Curtis Walker was 13 years old. 230 00:10:21,553 --> 00:10:23,511 He'd been suffocated. 231 00:10:25,011 --> 00:10:27,094 - A lady two apartments from me-- 232 00:10:27,178 --> 00:10:28,303 she called me on the phone. 233 00:10:28,386 --> 00:10:30,887 She said, "Catherine, look at the news, 234 00:10:30,969 --> 00:10:32,428 "'cause I think that's Curtis 235 00:10:32,511 --> 00:10:34,386 that they pulling out the water." 236 00:10:34,470 --> 00:10:37,219 So I ran upstairs and cut the TV on 237 00:10:37,303 --> 00:10:40,094 and started looking at it and sat on the edge of the bed, 238 00:10:40,178 --> 00:10:42,053 and I was looking at the news, 239 00:10:42,136 --> 00:10:43,511 and I seen them when they pulled him 240 00:10:43,595 --> 00:10:45,345 out the water. 241 00:10:45,428 --> 00:10:46,428 - Can you tell us anything? 242 00:10:46,511 --> 00:10:47,595 - I haven't anything to tell you. 243 00:10:47,678 --> 00:10:48,969 I don't know anything. I haven't been down there yet. 244 00:10:49,053 --> 00:10:49,969 - Well, have you been briefed at all? 245 00:10:50,053 --> 00:10:51,261 - No. - Do you have a body 246 00:10:51,345 --> 00:10:53,303 down there? - I don't know. 247 00:10:53,386 --> 00:10:55,136 - I just run out the house. 248 00:10:55,219 --> 00:10:57,011 They had to catch me. 249 00:10:57,094 --> 00:11:00,178 I just ran out the house like a wild woman. 250 00:11:00,261 --> 00:11:02,762 I was screaming and hollering so loud. 251 00:11:02,845 --> 00:11:06,094 [mournful music] 252 00:11:06,178 --> 00:11:08,386 - I just knew that was him. 253 00:11:08,470 --> 00:11:09,928 I knew that was him. 254 00:11:10,011 --> 00:11:12,637 - We need all the vehicles moved off [indistinct] road... 255 00:11:12,720 --> 00:11:14,136 - I was so crazy. 256 00:11:14,219 --> 00:11:16,595 They had to call the fire department. 257 00:11:16,678 --> 00:11:19,011 Only thing I remember is, 258 00:11:19,094 --> 00:11:20,720 I'm laying down on the sofa 259 00:11:20,803 --> 00:11:25,011 with my boys sitting down on each side of me. 260 00:11:25,094 --> 00:11:28,762 I mean, my mind had left me, 'cause I had a suicide spirit, 261 00:11:28,845 --> 00:11:31,386 and I wanted to cut my wrists 262 00:11:31,470 --> 00:11:34,845 because I felt like I didn't have nothing to live for. 263 00:11:34,928 --> 00:11:38,386 ♪ ♪ 264 00:11:38,470 --> 00:11:39,845 I couldn't sleep at night. 265 00:11:39,928 --> 00:11:41,845 I couldn't eat. 266 00:11:41,928 --> 00:11:43,553 I couldn't do nothing. 267 00:11:43,637 --> 00:11:48,678 ♪ ♪ 268 00:11:48,762 --> 00:11:52,553 You know, I wanted to know 269 00:11:52,637 --> 00:11:55,345 who did that to my son. 270 00:11:55,428 --> 00:11:57,178 I wanted to know. 271 00:11:57,261 --> 00:12:00,178 ♪ ♪ 272 00:12:00,261 --> 00:12:01,845 - There's no memorial. 273 00:12:01,928 --> 00:12:04,219 There's nothing in the city 274 00:12:04,303 --> 00:12:07,011 other than institutional knowledge 275 00:12:07,094 --> 00:12:10,553 and your memory 276 00:12:10,637 --> 00:12:13,011 that tells you about these young people 277 00:12:13,094 --> 00:12:14,845 who were murdered, 278 00:12:16,595 --> 00:12:18,595 And their cases were never solved. 279 00:12:18,678 --> 00:12:20,969 ♪ ♪ 280 00:12:21,053 --> 00:12:22,720 Do what should've been done 281 00:12:22,803 --> 00:12:27,386 in 1979, 1980, and 1981. 282 00:12:27,470 --> 00:12:29,928 Do the police work. 283 00:12:30,011 --> 00:12:31,887 Solve the cases. 284 00:12:31,969 --> 00:12:34,219 - If you can find bin Laden, you can do anything. 285 00:12:34,303 --> 00:12:35,720 But my question is, 286 00:12:35,803 --> 00:12:37,553 do Atlanta want to pursue this? 287 00:12:37,637 --> 00:12:39,428 Because if they pursue this, 288 00:12:39,511 --> 00:12:41,720 it's gonna destroy the Atlanta name for a while. 289 00:12:41,803 --> 00:12:44,720 It will turn Atlanta into the real Atlanta. 290 00:12:44,803 --> 00:12:48,303 - I understand why the city 291 00:12:48,386 --> 00:12:49,928 handled it the way they did 292 00:12:50,011 --> 00:12:51,762 and wanted it to go away, 293 00:12:51,845 --> 00:12:54,969 because the result of how they handled it 294 00:12:55,053 --> 00:12:57,303 is this beautiful city that we have today. 295 00:12:57,386 --> 00:12:59,762 - ♪ Every man has a place ♪ 296 00:12:59,845 --> 00:13:02,969 ♪ In his heart, there's a space ♪ 297 00:13:03,053 --> 00:13:05,219 ♪ And the world can't erase ♪ 298 00:13:05,303 --> 00:13:08,178 ♪ His fantasies ♪ 299 00:13:08,261 --> 00:13:10,595 ♪ Take a ride in the sky ♪ 300 00:13:10,678 --> 00:13:13,094 ♪ On our ship, fantasize ♪ 301 00:13:13,178 --> 00:13:16,553 - Atlanta is the epitome of success 302 00:13:16,637 --> 00:13:20,887 in all areas of the black experience in America. 303 00:13:20,969 --> 00:13:23,428 Atlanta is a city that has 304 00:13:23,511 --> 00:13:25,678 four historically black colleges, 305 00:13:25,762 --> 00:13:28,303 and they're all producing great students 306 00:13:28,386 --> 00:13:31,303 that come out into the workforce. 307 00:13:31,386 --> 00:13:33,345 The jobs are available here. 308 00:13:33,428 --> 00:13:34,762 - ♪ Forever ♪ 309 00:13:34,845 --> 00:13:37,053 - From the African-American perspective, 310 00:13:37,136 --> 00:13:39,261 Atlanta is Wakanda. 311 00:13:39,345 --> 00:13:40,845 - Bye. 312 00:13:40,928 --> 00:13:42,470 ♪ ♪ 313 00:13:42,553 --> 00:13:44,637 - There was a magnetism to Atlanta 314 00:13:44,720 --> 00:13:46,803 that's really existed for a long time. 315 00:13:46,887 --> 00:13:50,386 Atlanta was what we would call the crown jewel of the South. 316 00:13:50,470 --> 00:13:52,303 - Well, you do feel a kind of pride 317 00:13:52,386 --> 00:13:53,637 that's associated with 318 00:13:53,720 --> 00:13:55,136 some of the fancier things about the city-- 319 00:13:55,219 --> 00:13:58,345 for instance, the black businesses here. 320 00:13:58,428 --> 00:13:59,470 This is the main 321 00:13:59,553 --> 00:14:00,969 business artery in my district. 322 00:14:01,053 --> 00:14:02,928 Most of the businesses up and down here 323 00:14:03,011 --> 00:14:04,845 are owned and run by black people. 324 00:14:04,928 --> 00:14:08,136 - You could live in Atlanta and be successful 325 00:14:08,219 --> 00:14:11,011 and not go downtown to a white bank. 326 00:14:11,094 --> 00:14:13,720 There's a black hospital right here 327 00:14:13,803 --> 00:14:15,345 with black doctors in it. 328 00:14:15,428 --> 00:14:18,345 There's a black movie, there's a black-- 329 00:14:18,428 --> 00:14:19,845 obviously, a nightclub, 330 00:14:19,928 --> 00:14:21,678 There's a black street 331 00:14:21,762 --> 00:14:23,303 called Auburn Avenue. 332 00:14:23,386 --> 00:14:25,219 [upbeat music] 333 00:14:25,303 --> 00:14:29,386 - My ex-husband is in the entertainment business, 334 00:14:29,470 --> 00:14:31,345 so we lived in Augusta, 335 00:14:31,428 --> 00:14:33,720 which is about 2 1/2 hours east of here. 336 00:14:33,803 --> 00:14:37,511 And he brought me downtown. I'll never forget it. 337 00:14:37,595 --> 00:14:41,011 I saw black people with suits and ties 338 00:14:41,094 --> 00:14:44,053 and dressed so business-like, 339 00:14:44,136 --> 00:14:47,178 and I said, "This is where I need to be. 340 00:14:47,261 --> 00:14:50,511 I am coming to live here." 341 00:14:50,595 --> 00:14:52,511 ♪ ♪ 342 00:14:52,595 --> 00:14:54,303 - There was a lot of activists 343 00:14:54,386 --> 00:14:56,845 who had flooded into the city of all kinds 344 00:14:56,928 --> 00:14:58,011 from the Nation of Islam 345 00:14:58,094 --> 00:14:59,720 to communist organizations 346 00:14:59,803 --> 00:15:02,511 to, you know, civil rights organizations. 347 00:15:02,595 --> 00:15:04,720 - Many of us were involved in struggles 348 00:15:04,803 --> 00:15:05,720 and movements 349 00:15:05,803 --> 00:15:07,386 and going to jail and picketing 350 00:15:07,470 --> 00:15:08,762 and fighting the Klan. 351 00:15:08,845 --> 00:15:10,595 - There were boycotts, clearly, 352 00:15:10,678 --> 00:15:13,553 but the real energy of protest 353 00:15:13,637 --> 00:15:15,887 did not happen in the city of Atlanta. 354 00:15:15,969 --> 00:15:18,219 This is not a resistance city. 355 00:15:18,303 --> 00:15:19,928 This is the city 356 00:15:20,011 --> 00:15:21,553 of the middle class. 357 00:15:21,637 --> 00:15:23,386 - This was the city where the civil rights leaders 358 00:15:23,470 --> 00:15:26,887 come back to and have, relatively, racial harmony 359 00:15:26,969 --> 00:15:29,053 because it was not politically-- 360 00:15:29,136 --> 00:15:32,094 they wanted Atlanta to be the city too busy to hate. 361 00:15:32,178 --> 00:15:35,094 - That kind of description of Atlanta 362 00:15:35,178 --> 00:15:37,303 continued through the '60s 363 00:15:37,386 --> 00:15:39,553 and the '70s, but into the 1980s, 364 00:15:39,637 --> 00:15:42,428 and in fact, Atlanta was one of the first cities 365 00:15:42,511 --> 00:15:44,969 to elect a black mayor. 366 00:15:45,053 --> 00:15:47,637 And Maynard Jackson was a mayor in full. 367 00:15:47,720 --> 00:15:51,428 - Now, you don't have to be crazy to be mayor, 368 00:15:51,511 --> 00:15:53,511 you know, but it helps. [laughs] 369 00:15:55,136 --> 00:15:56,803 - Maynard was the first black mayor 370 00:15:56,887 --> 00:15:58,386 of any major Southern city. 371 00:15:58,470 --> 00:16:00,261 - Never... - Never. 372 00:16:00,345 --> 00:16:02,887 - Never... - Never. 373 00:16:02,969 --> 00:16:04,762 - Never... all: Never! 374 00:16:04,845 --> 00:16:06,762 - Never... all: Never! 375 00:16:06,845 --> 00:16:09,428 - Never... all: Never! 376 00:16:09,511 --> 00:16:11,178 - Never shall I let you down. 377 00:16:11,261 --> 00:16:12,637 [cheers and applause] 378 00:16:12,720 --> 00:16:13,803 - It was euphoric. 379 00:16:13,887 --> 00:16:16,678 It was like, "Here's one of us 380 00:16:16,762 --> 00:16:20,303 getting to the seat of power, finally." 381 00:16:20,386 --> 00:16:23,136 - Maynard Jackson came in knowing 382 00:16:23,219 --> 00:16:26,637 that he had to do at least two things. 383 00:16:26,720 --> 00:16:29,136 Number one is that black businesses 384 00:16:29,219 --> 00:16:31,303 had been locked out of city business, 385 00:16:31,386 --> 00:16:33,969 and the city was spending tens of millions, 386 00:16:34,053 --> 00:16:35,511 hundreds of millions of dollars, 387 00:16:35,595 --> 00:16:39,136 and black businesses were left to the crumbs, 388 00:16:39,219 --> 00:16:41,178 and he knew he had to change that. 389 00:16:41,261 --> 00:16:42,637 The second thing he knew 390 00:16:42,720 --> 00:16:45,553 is that he had to get control of the police department, 391 00:16:45,637 --> 00:16:48,136 and that they had to acknowledge 392 00:16:48,219 --> 00:16:50,178 that the people that they were serving 393 00:16:50,261 --> 00:16:52,094 were mostly black people. 394 00:16:52,178 --> 00:16:55,219 - Maynard Jackson took over office in 1974, 395 00:16:55,303 --> 00:16:57,219 and one of the first things he said was, 396 00:16:57,303 --> 00:16:59,637 "I want to make the police department more brown." 397 00:16:59,720 --> 00:17:01,386 He wanted to integrate it. 398 00:17:01,470 --> 00:17:03,845 Well, if you were a white officer in the APD then, 399 00:17:03,928 --> 00:17:05,553 what's the message you got? 400 00:17:05,637 --> 00:17:07,386 "There ain't room for me anymore." 401 00:17:07,470 --> 00:17:10,136 So a lot of those who could, retired. 402 00:17:10,637 --> 00:17:12,303 - And Maynard was not playing 403 00:17:12,386 --> 00:17:14,845 about blacks getting their piece of the pie. 404 00:17:14,928 --> 00:17:16,053 - Mayor Jackson called this 405 00:17:16,136 --> 00:17:17,803 the most ambitious all-black project... 406 00:17:17,887 --> 00:17:20,845 - Made for some great stories because it was new territory 407 00:17:20,928 --> 00:17:22,845 for both the white community and the black community. 408 00:17:22,928 --> 00:17:24,345 It was like a tale of two cities 409 00:17:24,428 --> 00:17:26,178 coming together for the first time. 410 00:17:26,261 --> 00:17:28,178 And there were stories that abounded 411 00:17:28,261 --> 00:17:30,178 here in Atlanta unlike anyplace else. 412 00:17:30,261 --> 00:17:32,011 - It's time for us to understand, 413 00:17:32,094 --> 00:17:35,386 America is a sick, racist nation. 414 00:17:35,470 --> 00:17:37,011 - Hosea Williams, 415 00:17:37,094 --> 00:17:39,178 Julian Bond, John Lewis. 416 00:17:39,261 --> 00:17:41,303 I mean, just many civil rights leaders, 417 00:17:41,386 --> 00:17:45,720 legends, tough folks who did great things. 418 00:17:45,803 --> 00:17:46,845 But by the same token, 419 00:17:46,928 --> 00:17:49,219 it was not always that easy to deal with 420 00:17:49,303 --> 00:17:51,720 the J.B. Stoners of the world, KKK. 421 00:17:51,803 --> 00:17:53,720 - Oh, we have all of this propaganda 422 00:17:53,803 --> 00:17:55,386 directed against white people. 423 00:17:55,470 --> 00:17:56,887 - I remember interviewing him one time 424 00:17:56,969 --> 00:18:00,595 in Stone Mountain, such a Southern KKK foothold. 425 00:18:00,678 --> 00:18:02,511 J.B. Stoner was holding a rally there. 426 00:18:02,595 --> 00:18:04,470 Now, how I got that assignment, I'm not sure. 427 00:18:04,553 --> 00:18:05,887 Maybe it was partly a joke. 428 00:18:05,969 --> 00:18:08,345 Maybe it was to see, could I handle it? 429 00:18:08,428 --> 00:18:10,511 And I heard him use the N word all the time. 430 00:18:10,595 --> 00:18:12,094 I remember asking him, "Stoner," I said, 431 00:18:12,178 --> 00:18:14,094 "Man, you not gonna call me that word, not on camera." 432 00:18:14,178 --> 00:18:16,969 And he's a little guy. He didn't call me on camera. 433 00:18:17,053 --> 00:18:19,094 He said, "You finished now?" I said, "Yeah." 434 00:18:19,178 --> 00:18:20,595 He said, "All right, nigger. You can go." 435 00:18:20,678 --> 00:18:23,094 - I have to put up with Jews and niggers on television 436 00:18:23,178 --> 00:18:24,595 whether I like it or not. 437 00:18:24,678 --> 00:18:26,178 - It was still the South. 438 00:18:27,511 --> 00:18:29,762 - Atlanta was-- during that time, 439 00:18:29,845 --> 00:18:32,136 it was kind of like you stay in your neighborhood, 440 00:18:32,219 --> 00:18:34,928 you stay in yours. 441 00:18:35,011 --> 00:18:38,595 Klan presence was a real thing. 442 00:18:38,678 --> 00:18:40,928 Atlanta as a city-- 443 00:18:41,011 --> 00:18:43,428 you know, they'll tell you when you come to Atlanta, 444 00:18:43,511 --> 00:18:45,928 Atlanta's the city too busy to hate, 445 00:18:46,011 --> 00:18:48,720 but go 15 minutes outside of Atlanta, 446 00:18:48,803 --> 00:18:51,595 and you will see, especially back then, 447 00:18:51,678 --> 00:18:54,803 the Confederate flags still flying, 448 00:18:54,887 --> 00:18:57,303 the Confederate symbols still around, 449 00:18:57,386 --> 00:19:00,011 the streets in the black communities 450 00:19:00,094 --> 00:19:03,720 being named after Confederate soldiers. 451 00:19:03,803 --> 00:19:06,011 - The reality is, 452 00:19:06,094 --> 00:19:07,637 it's the South, 453 00:19:07,720 --> 00:19:10,845 with old feelings and old ways. 454 00:19:12,553 --> 00:19:14,470 - When Maynard was running for mayor, 455 00:19:14,553 --> 00:19:17,136 the overall tone was, 456 00:19:17,219 --> 00:19:19,178 "You're not gonna take over this city." 457 00:19:19,261 --> 00:19:22,470 - We have reached the point in our history 458 00:19:22,553 --> 00:19:24,803 where it is time black leaders 459 00:19:24,887 --> 00:19:28,136 tell black audiences that for their own good, 460 00:19:28,219 --> 00:19:30,595 they must be able to think white. 461 00:19:30,678 --> 00:19:32,136 - You would read stuff in the paper, 462 00:19:32,219 --> 00:19:34,470 and you would hear the conversations, 463 00:19:34,553 --> 00:19:36,136 you know, 464 00:19:36,219 --> 00:19:39,470 and you would know that... 465 00:19:39,553 --> 00:19:42,553 if you were black, you had to get back. 466 00:19:42,637 --> 00:19:45,386 - It was all about growth and development 467 00:19:45,470 --> 00:19:47,845 and more people coming, more roads being built. 468 00:19:47,928 --> 00:19:51,053 We have to keep getting bigger, 469 00:19:51,136 --> 00:19:53,553 and it was the new South. 470 00:19:53,637 --> 00:19:55,720 This was supposed to be the city where 471 00:19:55,803 --> 00:19:58,136 black folks had all this opportunity, 472 00:19:58,219 --> 00:19:59,678 and there were a lot of black folks 473 00:19:59,762 --> 00:20:02,178 who found a lot of opportunity here, 474 00:20:02,261 --> 00:20:03,762 but in a lot of ways, 475 00:20:03,845 --> 00:20:06,303 for a lot of poor people in poor communities, 476 00:20:06,386 --> 00:20:10,136 they were starting to see that nothing was really changing. 477 00:20:10,219 --> 00:20:11,887 The schools weren't really getting better. 478 00:20:11,969 --> 00:20:13,637 They weren't getting more jobs. 479 00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:16,553 The promises of the civil rights movement 480 00:20:16,637 --> 00:20:19,470 were not being realized. 481 00:20:19,553 --> 00:20:21,053 - The poorest families in Atlanta 482 00:20:21,136 --> 00:20:24,219 have a yearly income just under $2,500. 483 00:20:24,303 --> 00:20:26,553 They live in areas like Techwood Homes, 484 00:20:26,637 --> 00:20:28,053 Summerhill, and Mechanicsville. 485 00:20:28,136 --> 00:20:31,011 It's in stark contrast to their fellow citizens 486 00:20:31,094 --> 00:20:33,011 in some northern communities of the city, 487 00:20:33,094 --> 00:20:36,720 where average family income is $22,000. 488 00:20:37,428 --> 00:20:39,386 - 'Cause I knew the history of this city, 489 00:20:39,470 --> 00:20:41,261 I started thinking about this issue of 490 00:20:41,345 --> 00:20:43,928 whether Atlanta was a black mecca or not, right? 491 00:20:44,011 --> 00:20:46,720 And I thought that if you were a poor kid 492 00:20:46,803 --> 00:20:49,720 in Vine City or in English Avenue 493 00:20:49,803 --> 00:20:52,053 or Perry Homes, 494 00:20:52,136 --> 00:20:54,887 or any of the projects here in Atlanta, 495 00:20:54,969 --> 00:20:57,928 the black mecca was more myth than reality, 496 00:20:58,011 --> 00:21:00,595 that it did not ring true 497 00:21:00,678 --> 00:21:02,261 for everybody. 498 00:21:02,345 --> 00:21:03,928 - In these communities, 499 00:21:04,011 --> 00:21:06,094 this was being poor and black in Georgia, 500 00:21:06,178 --> 00:21:08,762 before Maynard Jackson. 501 00:21:08,845 --> 00:21:10,969 This is poor and black in Georgia 502 00:21:11,053 --> 00:21:13,720 after Maynard Jackson. 503 00:21:13,803 --> 00:21:15,261 So in that sense, you know, 504 00:21:15,345 --> 00:21:17,094 there had been hope that was crushed, 505 00:21:17,178 --> 00:21:19,053 but it was nothing new. 506 00:21:19,136 --> 00:21:21,969 - The public housing projects were utter poverty. 507 00:21:23,136 --> 00:21:24,887 It was just another slice of Atlanta 508 00:21:24,969 --> 00:21:27,428 that many folks tried to avoid. 509 00:21:27,511 --> 00:21:29,178 It was almost a hidden Atlanta. 510 00:21:29,261 --> 00:21:30,637 White folks hardly saw it at all 511 00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:32,094 because they lived in the wealthier, 512 00:21:32,178 --> 00:21:33,428 northern parts of town. 513 00:21:33,511 --> 00:21:35,595 So there was the black middle class 514 00:21:35,678 --> 00:21:37,595 and the black lower class, and of course, 515 00:21:37,678 --> 00:21:38,845 you had working class families as well, 516 00:21:38,928 --> 00:21:41,887 so it was like three divisions of black folks, 517 00:21:41,969 --> 00:21:44,637 and they didn't necessarily intermingle. 518 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:46,720 ♪ ♪ 519 00:21:49,386 --> 00:21:52,261 - Wayne Williams was the only child of 520 00:21:52,345 --> 00:21:54,136 Homer and Faye Williams. 521 00:21:54,762 --> 00:21:59,136 - I knew them as a true Atlanta family. 522 00:21:59,219 --> 00:22:00,678 Homer and Faye Williams 523 00:22:00,762 --> 00:22:02,053 were great people. 524 00:22:03,219 --> 00:22:06,470 Homer Williams was a photographer, 525 00:22:06,553 --> 00:22:10,303 and he freelanced for the "Atlanta Daily World." 526 00:22:10,386 --> 00:22:13,969 Faye was a schoolteacher for years. 527 00:22:14,053 --> 00:22:16,762 She taught some of the mothers 528 00:22:16,845 --> 00:22:18,762 of the missing murdered children. 529 00:22:18,845 --> 00:22:20,845 ♪ ♪ 530 00:22:20,928 --> 00:22:24,178 - Homer and Faye Williams were very loyal to their son. 531 00:22:24,261 --> 00:22:26,303 ♪ ♪ 532 00:22:26,386 --> 00:22:29,511 - They were very close. They were very close. 533 00:22:29,595 --> 00:22:31,845 They just loved him and adored him. 534 00:22:31,928 --> 00:22:34,511 ♪ ♪ 535 00:22:34,595 --> 00:22:35,803 - His mom and dad, 536 00:22:35,887 --> 00:22:37,219 middle income folk, 537 00:22:37,303 --> 00:22:39,345 were considered very good individuals 538 00:22:39,428 --> 00:22:41,219 in the black community. 539 00:22:41,303 --> 00:22:42,678 - Really a good family. 540 00:22:42,762 --> 00:22:44,678 You can tell the house was a modest house 541 00:22:44,762 --> 00:22:47,136 that they had bought, in a modest neighborhood, 542 00:22:47,219 --> 00:22:49,261 well-kept, with mowed lawns, 543 00:22:49,345 --> 00:22:50,845 manicured hedges. 544 00:22:50,928 --> 00:22:52,845 You know these were people who kept their house 545 00:22:52,928 --> 00:22:54,720 very well. 546 00:22:54,803 --> 00:22:56,845 - Wayne was an A student, 547 00:22:56,928 --> 00:22:58,720 very bright, 548 00:22:58,803 --> 00:23:01,845 very entrepreneurial. 549 00:23:01,928 --> 00:23:03,511 - Wayne was a young man 550 00:23:03,595 --> 00:23:06,678 who had a very promising life 551 00:23:06,762 --> 00:23:10,845 but got short circuited. 552 00:23:12,887 --> 00:23:15,386 - July 28th, 1979, 553 00:23:15,470 --> 00:23:17,553 police discover the decomposed remains 554 00:23:17,637 --> 00:23:19,720 of two children in a wooded area 555 00:23:19,803 --> 00:23:21,887 in southwest Atlanta. 556 00:23:21,969 --> 00:23:23,678 - Shift started at 4:00, 557 00:23:23,762 --> 00:23:26,219 and it wasn't long after 4:00 that the call came up. 558 00:23:26,303 --> 00:23:28,303 A body had been discovered by someone 559 00:23:28,386 --> 00:23:30,428 who was scavenging the roadside, 560 00:23:30,511 --> 00:23:32,845 looking for cans or bottles, 561 00:23:32,928 --> 00:23:34,678 and in the process of doing this, 562 00:23:34,762 --> 00:23:37,053 they came upon a decomposing body 563 00:23:37,136 --> 00:23:38,845 of a human. 564 00:23:38,928 --> 00:23:41,928 ♪ ♪ 565 00:23:42,011 --> 00:23:44,261 I was a--what you call a rookie homicide detective. 566 00:23:44,345 --> 00:23:45,595 I was still in training. 567 00:23:45,678 --> 00:23:47,053 I was still trying to figure out, you know, 568 00:23:47,136 --> 00:23:49,094 what homicide detectives were supposed to do 569 00:23:49,178 --> 00:23:51,261 and how they were supposed to do it, 570 00:23:51,345 --> 00:23:53,928 and this body here is 571 00:23:54,011 --> 00:23:56,136 really in bad shape. 572 00:23:56,219 --> 00:23:58,470 Cause of death was not known. 573 00:23:58,553 --> 00:24:01,637 If you want to describe a rural section of Atlanta, 574 00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:02,928 this is it. 575 00:24:03,011 --> 00:24:04,094 It's wooded. 576 00:24:04,178 --> 00:24:07,428 It's a road that's not heavily traveled. 577 00:24:07,511 --> 00:24:09,595 If you were gonna dump a body, this is the place 578 00:24:09,678 --> 00:24:11,678 that you would want to go dump a body. 579 00:24:11,762 --> 00:24:13,094 And somebody says, 580 00:24:13,178 --> 00:24:15,720 "Well, let's conduct a concentric search 581 00:24:15,803 --> 00:24:17,053 "and make sure we're not missing 582 00:24:17,136 --> 00:24:19,762 any other evidence that could be important." 583 00:24:19,845 --> 00:24:21,219 So everybody fans out, 584 00:24:21,303 --> 00:24:23,428 starts prowling around, looking through the woods. 585 00:24:23,511 --> 00:24:24,928 ♪ ♪ 586 00:24:25,011 --> 00:24:26,470 Next thing you know, 587 00:24:26,553 --> 00:24:29,136 somebody walked upon another body-- 588 00:24:29,219 --> 00:24:31,969 black male, fully clothed. 589 00:24:32,053 --> 00:24:34,637 And it's not as badly decomposed 590 00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:36,928 as the previous body, which made you think that 591 00:24:37,011 --> 00:24:40,345 the two bodies had been dumped at different times. 592 00:24:40,428 --> 00:24:42,136 And they weren't initially considered 593 00:24:42,219 --> 00:24:43,845 to be related homicides. 594 00:24:43,928 --> 00:24:45,637 - One of them is quickly identified 595 00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:47,845 as 14-year-old Edward Hope Smith, 596 00:24:47,928 --> 00:24:49,470 but the second body is in 597 00:24:49,553 --> 00:24:51,261 such an advanced state of decomposition, 598 00:24:51,345 --> 00:24:53,136 it's impossible to say who it is. 599 00:24:53,219 --> 00:24:54,428 - Bodies are taken 600 00:24:54,511 --> 00:24:57,553 to the medical examiner's office for examination, 601 00:24:57,637 --> 00:24:59,428 and then the determination is made 602 00:24:59,511 --> 00:25:00,969 that one of them has been shot, 603 00:25:01,053 --> 00:25:02,345 and then the other one, cause of death 604 00:25:02,428 --> 00:25:04,053 was determined as strangulation 605 00:25:04,136 --> 00:25:06,303 or maybe unknown, initially. 606 00:25:06,386 --> 00:25:07,969 - Both of these boys, by the way, are black, 607 00:25:08,053 --> 00:25:09,762 and they're both about 15 years old. 608 00:25:09,845 --> 00:25:11,803 - The examiner called my mom, 609 00:25:11,887 --> 00:25:14,011 saying that they had found my brother. 610 00:25:14,094 --> 00:25:16,011 She said that wasn't my brother, 611 00:25:16,094 --> 00:25:17,887 'cause the body that was there-- 612 00:25:17,969 --> 00:25:19,969 it didn't match any of the clothing 613 00:25:20,053 --> 00:25:21,637 that my brother was wearing. 614 00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:23,053 - At the medical examiner's office, 615 00:25:23,136 --> 00:25:24,678 Alfred's father and two brothers 616 00:25:24,762 --> 00:25:27,511 looked at the body and said it wasn't the boy they knew. 617 00:25:27,595 --> 00:25:29,511 - I went to the medical examiner 618 00:25:29,595 --> 00:25:31,553 two or three times, 619 00:25:31,637 --> 00:25:34,803 looked--had to look through a little frosty window 620 00:25:34,887 --> 00:25:36,011 about that big. 621 00:25:36,094 --> 00:25:39,011 But they showed me two or three different children 622 00:25:39,094 --> 00:25:42,261 that I had to look at. 623 00:25:42,345 --> 00:25:43,678 - The body stayed in the morgue 624 00:25:43,762 --> 00:25:45,553 until August 7, 1980, 625 00:25:45,637 --> 00:25:47,845 when the boy was buried in Crest Lawn Memorial Park 626 00:25:47,928 --> 00:25:50,470 as a pauper. 627 00:25:50,553 --> 00:25:52,637 In October 1980, an Atlanta detective 628 00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:54,511 discovered Alfred's dental records. 629 00:25:54,595 --> 00:25:56,720 Associate medical examiner John Fegel 630 00:25:56,803 --> 00:25:58,720 officially pronounced the boy in Crest Lawn 631 00:25:58,803 --> 00:26:00,219 to be Alfred. 632 00:26:00,303 --> 00:26:03,845 - He said his neck was broken, 633 00:26:03,928 --> 00:26:06,219 and that took the life out of me then. 634 00:26:06,303 --> 00:26:09,094 Who would want to break his neck? 635 00:26:09,178 --> 00:26:10,595 We put money together 636 00:26:10,678 --> 00:26:12,553 and gave it to him for the bus fare. 637 00:26:12,637 --> 00:26:16,053 I say, "Now, this is for your bus fare, 638 00:26:16,136 --> 00:26:17,720 "this is for your snack, 639 00:26:17,803 --> 00:26:20,261 and the movie fare." 640 00:26:20,345 --> 00:26:25,136 And I don't know if somebody broke his neck for that. 641 00:26:25,219 --> 00:26:27,969 I just never understood that. 642 00:26:29,136 --> 00:26:30,928 - I feel like somebody knows something 643 00:26:31,011 --> 00:26:32,887 other than Wayne Williams. 644 00:26:32,969 --> 00:26:34,887 [dramatic music] 645 00:26:34,969 --> 00:26:36,053 - Reporting on the story 646 00:26:36,136 --> 00:26:37,595 of the missing and murdered children, 647 00:26:37,678 --> 00:26:40,428 at first was a story-- 648 00:26:40,511 --> 00:26:44,845 it's just two boys who have been found, 649 00:26:44,928 --> 00:26:46,803 and maybe they were together. 650 00:26:46,887 --> 00:26:47,887 We don't know what happened, 651 00:26:47,969 --> 00:26:49,470 but it was just reported. 652 00:26:49,553 --> 00:26:51,386 Two young boys found dead, 653 00:26:51,470 --> 00:26:53,303 Niskey Lake Road. 654 00:26:53,386 --> 00:26:54,595 Period. 655 00:26:54,678 --> 00:26:56,345 - Things started 656 00:26:56,428 --> 00:26:59,637 in the context of a high homicide year, 657 00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:00,928 one of the highest in the-- 658 00:27:01,011 --> 00:27:02,887 I think the highest in the history of Atlanta. 659 00:27:02,969 --> 00:27:04,511 ♪ ♪ 660 00:27:04,595 --> 00:27:07,428 - The first year I was in in '79, 661 00:27:07,511 --> 00:27:11,219 I believe we had 230, 240 murders, 662 00:27:11,303 --> 00:27:14,428 and we were balancing two, three cases. 663 00:27:14,511 --> 00:27:16,928 Every officer was, every detective. 664 00:27:17,011 --> 00:27:18,261 ♪ ♪ 665 00:27:18,345 --> 00:27:20,303 - Most of the crime that you were dealing with: 666 00:27:20,386 --> 00:27:22,511 black victims, black perpetrators. 667 00:27:22,595 --> 00:27:25,094 The people being victimized were the poorest people 668 00:27:25,178 --> 00:27:27,803 and the most vulnerable people in the city. 669 00:27:27,887 --> 00:27:29,303 - The initial reaction was, 670 00:27:29,386 --> 00:27:32,637 "These are the kinds of things that happen every year. 671 00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:34,595 This is nothing extraordinary." 672 00:27:34,678 --> 00:27:36,303 So it was par for the course, 673 00:27:36,386 --> 00:27:39,428 just the usual, what had happened before. 674 00:27:39,511 --> 00:27:41,178 - The disappearance in September 675 00:27:41,261 --> 00:27:42,637 of another 14-year-old 676 00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:44,678 also attracts little public attention. 677 00:27:44,762 --> 00:27:48,303 Then nine-year-old Yusuf Bell disappears. 678 00:27:48,386 --> 00:27:49,303 - He wasn't the kind of little boy 679 00:27:49,386 --> 00:27:50,303 that would run away. 680 00:27:50,386 --> 00:27:51,637 He's involved in everything. 681 00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:53,845 He's in the gifted program at Dunbar. 682 00:27:53,928 --> 00:27:57,178 He's involved in boys' club. 683 00:27:57,261 --> 00:28:00,011 He's involved in a karate class. 684 00:28:00,094 --> 00:28:02,845 He's running for treasurer of his school. 685 00:28:02,928 --> 00:28:06,011 He plays in the band. He plays drum. 686 00:28:06,094 --> 00:28:08,470 The initial police who showed up 687 00:28:08,553 --> 00:28:11,887 had, in fact, seen him going to the store, 688 00:28:11,969 --> 00:28:14,345 and we know that he got to the store 689 00:28:14,428 --> 00:28:18,011 and we know that he left the store, and... 690 00:28:18,094 --> 00:28:19,511 It's like he dropped off the edge of the world 691 00:28:19,595 --> 00:28:21,219 at McDaniel and Glen, 692 00:28:21,303 --> 00:28:22,637 and nobody's seen him since then. 693 00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:24,178 I was able to get 694 00:28:24,261 --> 00:28:26,011 a group of high school students 695 00:28:26,094 --> 00:28:27,678 that helped with the search, 696 00:28:27,762 --> 00:28:29,637 because at that point, 697 00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:31,345 missing persons consisted 698 00:28:31,428 --> 00:28:33,386 of a sergeant and two detectives 699 00:28:33,470 --> 00:28:35,345 for everything in Atlanta. 700 00:28:35,428 --> 00:28:37,053 - Nine-year-old Yusuf Bell has been missing since Sunday. 701 00:28:37,136 --> 00:28:40,011 The nine-year-old is only one of about 702 00:28:40,094 --> 00:28:42,011 500 missing or runaways 703 00:28:42,094 --> 00:28:43,762 the squad handles each year. 704 00:28:43,845 --> 00:28:45,678 - Okay, where was he last seen at? 705 00:28:45,762 --> 00:28:49,345 - And so, of course, we weren't a priority. 706 00:28:49,428 --> 00:28:50,345 Just send him home. 707 00:28:50,428 --> 00:28:52,720 Just let him go and let him call us. 708 00:28:52,803 --> 00:28:53,928 We'll come pick him up. 709 00:28:54,011 --> 00:28:55,553 They don't have to even bring him back. 710 00:28:55,637 --> 00:28:57,887 Just turn him loose where he can get to a phone. 711 00:28:57,969 --> 00:28:59,511 Just send him home. 712 00:28:59,595 --> 00:29:04,261 For a child to be missing and for it to be important, 713 00:29:04,345 --> 00:29:06,386 they had to be somebody's child. 714 00:29:06,470 --> 00:29:08,178 We did not know 715 00:29:08,261 --> 00:29:10,553 that other children were missing 716 00:29:10,637 --> 00:29:13,053 until they found a body, 717 00:29:13,136 --> 00:29:16,678 and they thought it might have been Yusuf's body, 718 00:29:16,762 --> 00:29:20,553 and it was, in fact, Milton Harvey's body. 719 00:29:20,637 --> 00:29:23,470 There were also two other boys 720 00:29:23,553 --> 00:29:25,720 that were missing, 721 00:29:25,803 --> 00:29:27,637 but we didn't know that. 722 00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:28,928 - It took people a minute 723 00:29:29,011 --> 00:29:31,136 to really grasp the gravity of this, 724 00:29:31,219 --> 00:29:32,969 'cause black children get killed all the time. 725 00:29:33,053 --> 00:29:34,303 You know, they go missing all the time, 726 00:29:34,386 --> 00:29:35,928 and so I think it took a minute 727 00:29:36,011 --> 00:29:38,928 even for the black community to grasp the gravity 728 00:29:39,011 --> 00:29:40,094 of children missing 729 00:29:40,178 --> 00:29:41,928 over a relatively short period of time. 730 00:29:42,011 --> 00:29:44,053 - Yusuf Bell, nine years old, 731 00:29:44,136 --> 00:29:45,595 missing from his home for almost a month 732 00:29:45,678 --> 00:29:48,261 then found strangled in an abandoned school. 733 00:29:48,345 --> 00:29:49,553 - He had been strangled, 734 00:29:49,637 --> 00:29:51,803 and his body was put into the shaft in the floor. 735 00:29:51,887 --> 00:29:54,345 - The sergeant of the missing persons unit 736 00:29:54,428 --> 00:29:57,136 and someone else came over together 737 00:29:57,219 --> 00:30:01,053 to let me know that they had found Yusuf. 738 00:30:01,136 --> 00:30:05,678 ♪ ♪ 739 00:30:05,762 --> 00:30:09,136 I was angry. I was hurt. 740 00:30:09,219 --> 00:30:12,678 I was relieved. 741 00:30:12,762 --> 00:30:15,803 And I know relieved sounds weird, but... 742 00:30:15,887 --> 00:30:19,928 Up until that point, in my head, 743 00:30:20,011 --> 00:30:22,053 someone has stolen my little boy 744 00:30:22,136 --> 00:30:25,428 and he's alive someplace, and they're torturing him, 745 00:30:25,511 --> 00:30:28,386 and at least I know that's not happening. 746 00:30:30,053 --> 00:30:33,261 - It is my hope at this particular point 747 00:30:33,345 --> 00:30:35,136 that the conscience of this city, 748 00:30:35,219 --> 00:30:37,845 the conscience of this nation, will be penetrated 749 00:30:37,928 --> 00:30:39,595 by the life and by the death 750 00:30:39,678 --> 00:30:41,720 of this young man. 751 00:30:43,678 --> 00:30:46,595 - Women like Camille Bell know the reality too well. 752 00:30:46,678 --> 00:30:48,345 After her son was murdered, 753 00:30:48,428 --> 00:30:51,178 she created the Committee to Stop Children's Murders. 754 00:30:51,261 --> 00:30:53,511 - One of the things that happened fairly quickly: 755 00:30:53,595 --> 00:30:56,053 Camille Bell, she started the committee 756 00:30:56,136 --> 00:30:58,386 to protect children, and the camera loved her. 757 00:30:58,470 --> 00:30:59,386 - Yusuf's dead. 758 00:30:59,470 --> 00:31:01,887 We can't do anything about that. 759 00:31:01,969 --> 00:31:04,969 But the citizens of Atlanta 760 00:31:05,053 --> 00:31:07,345 and the citizens of the surrounding area 761 00:31:07,428 --> 00:31:10,803 are going to have to take our community back. 762 00:31:10,887 --> 00:31:13,011 - And she was the real firebrand 763 00:31:13,094 --> 00:31:15,011 and organizer, and she was very smart, 764 00:31:15,094 --> 00:31:16,386 media-savvy, 765 00:31:16,470 --> 00:31:19,553 so she was able to attract attention 766 00:31:19,637 --> 00:31:20,845 to this issue. 767 00:31:20,928 --> 00:31:22,637 - How many children do we have to lose 768 00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:23,887 in our neighborhoods 769 00:31:23,969 --> 00:31:26,511 before the police department says, 770 00:31:26,595 --> 00:31:28,928 "Hey, we've got a problem"? 771 00:31:29,011 --> 00:31:30,928 The reason there was an us at that point 772 00:31:31,011 --> 00:31:33,053 as a group was because A, 773 00:31:33,136 --> 00:31:34,720 we were being supportive of each other, 774 00:31:34,803 --> 00:31:38,595 but B, we were trying to-- since the mayor would not 775 00:31:38,678 --> 00:31:42,386 notify the city of Atlanta that something was going on, 776 00:31:42,470 --> 00:31:44,261 we were trying to notify them. 777 00:31:44,345 --> 00:31:48,887 Yusuf was last seen here, 778 00:31:48,969 --> 00:31:50,053 and he was found here. 779 00:31:50,136 --> 00:31:52,386 - They did a good job, a great job, in fact, 780 00:31:52,470 --> 00:31:54,303 of creating an organization 781 00:31:54,386 --> 00:31:55,720 and then keeping that organization 782 00:31:55,803 --> 00:31:58,678 in the public eye as this calamity progressed. 783 00:31:58,762 --> 00:31:59,803 - I know my son and all. 784 00:31:59,887 --> 00:32:01,887 - You know there was a boy killed in his apartment. 785 00:32:01,969 --> 00:32:03,762 There's one guy I'm interested in. 786 00:32:03,845 --> 00:32:05,386 - Camille Bell. 787 00:32:05,470 --> 00:32:07,178 Of all the mothers, 788 00:32:07,261 --> 00:32:10,553 she was not taking it. 789 00:32:10,637 --> 00:32:12,928 And she kept asking the mayor 790 00:32:13,011 --> 00:32:14,637 and asking the police chief 791 00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:16,928 and applying pressure 792 00:32:17,011 --> 00:32:19,219 to the point of where 793 00:32:19,303 --> 00:32:21,928 people started not taking her seriously. 794 00:32:22,011 --> 00:32:23,720 You know, she's just a grieving mother. 795 00:32:23,803 --> 00:32:25,470 - And with us this morning in our Atlanta bureau 796 00:32:25,553 --> 00:32:27,553 to talk about all of this is Mrs. Camille Bell. 797 00:32:27,637 --> 00:32:31,136 She has a special feeling because her nine-year-old son, 798 00:32:31,219 --> 00:32:34,428 Yusuf, disappeared on October 21st, 1979. 799 00:32:34,511 --> 00:32:36,303 Mrs. Bell is chairman of a new organization 800 00:32:36,386 --> 00:32:38,261 trying to deal with all of this, 801 00:32:38,345 --> 00:32:41,428 a committee called Stop the Murders of the Children. 802 00:32:41,511 --> 00:32:42,637 Is that the correct name, Ms. Bell? 803 00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:44,219 - No, it isn't, the correct name is 804 00:32:44,303 --> 00:32:45,928 the Committee to Stop Children's Murders. 805 00:32:46,011 --> 00:32:48,553 - She would just show up and demand to see the mayor, 806 00:32:48,637 --> 00:32:49,637 whether he was there or not. 807 00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:51,470 She'd show up at city council meetings, 808 00:32:51,553 --> 00:32:55,178 and from the time that she came on the scene, 809 00:32:55,261 --> 00:32:58,386 every time that another child was found dead, 810 00:32:58,470 --> 00:33:00,470 she would be the headliner, 811 00:33:00,553 --> 00:33:03,762 the constant, constant pounding on it. 812 00:33:03,845 --> 00:33:05,345 ♪ ♪ 813 00:33:05,428 --> 00:33:07,637 - The body of 14-year-old Eric Middlebrooks 814 00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:10,303 was found about 7:00 this morning behind a bar 815 00:33:10,386 --> 00:33:12,511 in the 200 block of Flat Shoals Road 816 00:33:12,595 --> 00:33:13,720 near Memorial. 817 00:33:14,887 --> 00:33:16,178 - We got a call. 818 00:33:16,261 --> 00:33:18,470 I think it was 6:00 in the morning. 819 00:33:18,553 --> 00:33:21,178 It was not quite daylight. It was still dark out. 820 00:33:21,261 --> 00:33:24,637 And Danny Agan was working with me. 821 00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:26,762 And this was a body 822 00:33:26,845 --> 00:33:28,136 that was dumped by the dumpster. 823 00:33:28,219 --> 00:33:30,303 When we got out there, 824 00:33:30,386 --> 00:33:32,261 we saw that it was a child. 825 00:33:32,345 --> 00:33:33,803 ♪ ♪ 826 00:33:33,928 --> 00:33:35,178 - His mother said he left his house 827 00:33:35,261 --> 00:33:38,511 at 345 Howell Drive just a couple of blocks away 828 00:33:38,595 --> 00:33:40,511 about 10:30 last night. 829 00:33:40,595 --> 00:33:43,345 Police say he was killed soon after that. 830 00:33:43,428 --> 00:33:45,011 - When you work a case like that, 831 00:33:45,094 --> 00:33:46,428 you walk onto a scene, 832 00:33:46,511 --> 00:33:48,178 and you got nothing. 833 00:33:48,261 --> 00:33:50,386 You got a body 834 00:33:50,470 --> 00:33:53,803 and any evidence that you can hopefully find. 835 00:33:53,887 --> 00:33:57,178 - Of course, we didn't have a lot of technology back then. 836 00:33:57,261 --> 00:33:59,011 It was a pad and a pen, 837 00:33:59,094 --> 00:34:00,720 and, you know, roll out a tape measure 838 00:34:00,803 --> 00:34:03,386 and take measurements, take photographs. 839 00:34:03,470 --> 00:34:06,386 - And he had no identification, 840 00:34:06,470 --> 00:34:08,219 nothing. 841 00:34:08,303 --> 00:34:10,887 And then his pockets were turned outside, 842 00:34:10,969 --> 00:34:13,511 like a robbery. 843 00:34:13,595 --> 00:34:16,678 There were four small puncture wounds 844 00:34:16,762 --> 00:34:18,762 to the breastplate, 845 00:34:18,845 --> 00:34:21,136 and I felt that was pretty significant, 846 00:34:21,219 --> 00:34:23,261 because it was not a cause of death 847 00:34:23,345 --> 00:34:24,720 and it was postmortem. 848 00:34:24,803 --> 00:34:26,386 There was no bleeding. 849 00:34:26,470 --> 00:34:28,094 - He was hit on the back of the head 850 00:34:28,178 --> 00:34:30,053 with some kind of blunt instrument. 851 00:34:30,136 --> 00:34:32,094 - So while we're stooped over the body, 852 00:34:32,178 --> 00:34:34,261 Bob notices 853 00:34:34,345 --> 00:34:37,762 a fiber attached to this boy's shoe. 854 00:34:37,845 --> 00:34:41,053 - And it was a tuft of 855 00:34:41,136 --> 00:34:42,928 sort of a reddish fiber. 856 00:34:43,011 --> 00:34:45,261 ♪ ♪ 857 00:34:45,345 --> 00:34:46,762 And so I was preparing it 858 00:34:46,845 --> 00:34:50,053 to go take it to the GBI lab, 859 00:34:50,136 --> 00:34:53,053 and so my lieutenant, BL Nikirk-- 860 00:34:53,136 --> 00:34:54,261 he walked over and he said, 861 00:34:54,345 --> 00:34:56,386 "Well, what are you doing, Buffington?" 862 00:34:56,470 --> 00:34:59,094 And I tried to explain that we think that 863 00:34:59,178 --> 00:35:01,428 it can be something significant, 864 00:35:01,511 --> 00:35:03,637 and he was-- 865 00:35:03,720 --> 00:35:05,887 he didn't care about it, and he said to the guys. 866 00:35:05,969 --> 00:35:08,470 He said, "Yeah, well, Buffington's gonna go home 867 00:35:08,553 --> 00:35:11,094 "with me, and we're gonna clean out my dryer, 868 00:35:11,178 --> 00:35:13,969 and we'll solve all the murders in Atlanta," 869 00:35:14,053 --> 00:35:15,803 and they all laughed, ha, ha, ha. 870 00:35:15,887 --> 00:35:17,053 Real funny. 871 00:35:17,136 --> 00:35:19,178 We haven't uncovered anything now 872 00:35:19,261 --> 00:35:20,470 that would lead us to believe 873 00:35:20,553 --> 00:35:22,428 that there's any connection at all 874 00:35:22,511 --> 00:35:25,261 between this and any other of the homicides 875 00:35:25,345 --> 00:35:27,386 that we've had of the young people in the city. 876 00:35:27,470 --> 00:35:30,261 At that time, of course, there was no DNA. 877 00:35:30,345 --> 00:35:33,094 The only thing we could have is, if you had blood, 878 00:35:33,178 --> 00:35:36,595 then you could trace it back, male, female, black, white. 879 00:35:36,678 --> 00:35:39,637 Hair, you could do the same thing. 880 00:35:39,720 --> 00:35:41,637 Fingerprints, of course. 881 00:35:41,720 --> 00:35:43,511 So there wasn't a whole lot to work with. 882 00:35:43,595 --> 00:35:45,969 It was all work the street, 883 00:35:46,053 --> 00:35:47,345 talk to people, 884 00:35:47,428 --> 00:35:49,637 find out what the person did, 885 00:35:49,720 --> 00:35:51,345 if he had any enemies. 886 00:35:51,428 --> 00:35:52,969 - He was identified by some of the kids 887 00:35:53,053 --> 00:35:55,303 who went to school with him at Roosevelt High School. 888 00:35:55,386 --> 00:35:57,303 - We went to the address that was listed 889 00:35:57,386 --> 00:35:58,969 for Eric Middlebrooks 890 00:35:59,053 --> 00:36:01,345 and spoke with his foster mother. 891 00:36:01,428 --> 00:36:05,595 Danny and I stayed out on the front stoop, 892 00:36:05,678 --> 00:36:08,511 and she talked to us through the screen door. 893 00:36:08,595 --> 00:36:10,345 It's a lot like in the movies. 894 00:36:10,428 --> 00:36:12,303 When you go into the neighborhood, 895 00:36:12,386 --> 00:36:15,303 a lot of people just don't want to talk to you, 896 00:36:15,386 --> 00:36:18,011 and so that's-- that's what we were faced with 897 00:36:18,094 --> 00:36:19,845 most of the time. 898 00:36:19,928 --> 00:36:22,887 - Really, the first murder is just a murder. 899 00:36:22,969 --> 00:36:25,011 The second murder, in retrospect, 900 00:36:25,094 --> 00:36:26,053 is part of a pattern, 901 00:36:26,136 --> 00:36:28,345 but the fact is, 902 00:36:28,428 --> 00:36:33,678 in any large city in 1979, '80, '81, 903 00:36:33,762 --> 00:36:36,303 there was a fair amount of crime, 904 00:36:36,386 --> 00:36:38,845 and every large city newspaper 905 00:36:38,928 --> 00:36:43,011 and the local TV station has to figure out 906 00:36:43,094 --> 00:36:45,678 how to cover that best for its public. 907 00:36:45,762 --> 00:36:47,678 - You had kids who were a second-- 908 00:36:47,762 --> 00:36:48,762 who were afterthought, 909 00:36:48,845 --> 00:36:50,053 You had the media. 910 00:36:50,136 --> 00:36:53,345 They were kind of late getting on board. 911 00:36:53,428 --> 00:36:55,720 And by the media being late, 912 00:36:55,803 --> 00:36:57,762 law enforcement could take their time 913 00:36:57,845 --> 00:36:59,887 'cause nobody's really looking at them, 914 00:36:59,969 --> 00:37:02,178 so you have, like, a perfect storm going on, 915 00:37:02,261 --> 00:37:05,887 and so that allowed it to-- to fester. 916 00:37:05,969 --> 00:37:08,386 - LaTonya Wilson, seven years old, 917 00:37:08,470 --> 00:37:09,887 kidnapped from the bedroom of her home 918 00:37:09,969 --> 00:37:11,887 on Verbena Street Southwest, 919 00:37:11,969 --> 00:37:14,386 missing since June 22nd. 920 00:37:14,470 --> 00:37:16,969 - I just want my little girl found safely 921 00:37:17,053 --> 00:37:18,553 and brought home. 922 00:37:18,637 --> 00:37:20,887 I miss her, and I love her. 923 00:37:20,969 --> 00:37:23,386 [sobs] I want her... 924 00:37:23,470 --> 00:37:25,053 - All together, nine children 925 00:37:25,136 --> 00:37:26,720 between the ages of 7 and 14 926 00:37:26,803 --> 00:37:28,887 have disappeared in the last year. 927 00:37:28,969 --> 00:37:30,720 Five were later found dead. 928 00:37:30,803 --> 00:37:32,762 The other four are still missing. 929 00:37:34,637 --> 00:37:39,219 - There is something wrong with the heart of Atlanta. 930 00:37:39,303 --> 00:37:42,428 There is something wrong with the spirit of Atlanta. 931 00:37:42,511 --> 00:37:46,094 - There was an image maintenance problem. 932 00:37:46,178 --> 00:37:48,762 Atlanta was trying to establish that 933 00:37:48,845 --> 00:37:51,386 it was a good place to invest, 934 00:37:51,470 --> 00:37:53,261 a good place for conventions to come. 935 00:37:53,345 --> 00:37:56,386 They opened the new Atlanta airport terminal, 936 00:37:56,470 --> 00:37:58,887 which at that time was a big deal. 937 00:37:58,969 --> 00:38:02,428 It was very important to keep money and... 938 00:38:02,511 --> 00:38:03,762 white folks, primarily, 939 00:38:03,845 --> 00:38:05,762 coming to Atlanta and feeling safe here 940 00:38:05,845 --> 00:38:08,470 and feeling safe investing here. 941 00:38:08,553 --> 00:38:10,887 - Then I see our leadership, 942 00:38:10,969 --> 00:38:12,637 and only words that I have for it, 943 00:38:12,720 --> 00:38:14,928 because sometimes my vocabulary gets limited, 944 00:38:15,011 --> 00:38:17,219 is shucking and jiving. 945 00:38:17,303 --> 00:38:19,928 - Camille Bell and the mothers committee 946 00:38:20,011 --> 00:38:22,595 provided a great public service. 947 00:38:22,678 --> 00:38:24,470 I'm not sure that that would've been 948 00:38:24,553 --> 00:38:27,845 the first reaction of the Atlanta Police Department, 949 00:38:27,928 --> 00:38:32,136 you know, which also was under the command of Lee Brown, 950 00:38:32,219 --> 00:38:34,637 a black commissioner, 951 00:38:34,720 --> 00:38:38,303 and so there was at first a bit of astonishment 952 00:38:38,386 --> 00:38:41,094 that the police department was being accused 953 00:38:41,178 --> 00:38:44,637 of ignoring murders of black children, 954 00:38:44,720 --> 00:38:47,803 you know, because that would be the last thing 955 00:38:47,887 --> 00:38:50,011 that Maynard Jackson or Lee Brown 956 00:38:50,094 --> 00:38:53,845 or any of the people working for them would've wanted. 957 00:38:53,928 --> 00:38:55,261 - Atlanta Public Safety Commissioner 958 00:38:55,345 --> 00:38:57,136 Lee P. Brown is standing by. Go right ahead. 959 00:38:57,219 --> 00:38:58,303 You're on "Sunday Evening Live." 960 00:38:58,386 --> 00:38:59,803 - I would like to know 961 00:38:59,887 --> 00:39:02,178 why so many black kids 962 00:39:02,261 --> 00:39:04,011 have, you know, had to die 963 00:39:04,094 --> 00:39:06,178 before anyone got really interested in, 964 00:39:06,261 --> 00:39:08,219 you know, solving-- you know, 965 00:39:08,303 --> 00:39:10,345 wondering what happened to them, you know? 966 00:39:10,428 --> 00:39:12,219 I mean, a bunch of them died 967 00:39:12,303 --> 00:39:14,303 before anyone got interested, you know? 968 00:39:14,386 --> 00:39:16,345 Just 'cause they black kids. 969 00:39:16,428 --> 00:39:18,678 - From our perspective, we became concerned 970 00:39:18,762 --> 00:39:20,887 when we had the death of the first black child. 971 00:39:20,969 --> 00:39:23,386 - We all were saying to the administration, 972 00:39:23,470 --> 00:39:25,219 'cause I had been the city hall reporter, 973 00:39:25,303 --> 00:39:28,678 "Why aren't we putting more resources 974 00:39:28,762 --> 00:39:30,845 into finding out who's doing this?" 975 00:39:30,928 --> 00:39:34,969 It didn't become the story it should have been 976 00:39:35,053 --> 00:39:36,637 until, I think, 977 00:39:36,720 --> 00:39:39,511 there were nine young people who were dead, 978 00:39:39,595 --> 00:39:41,969 and that's when they formed the task force. 979 00:39:42,053 --> 00:39:43,845 - Investigation of the murdered and missing children 980 00:39:43,928 --> 00:39:45,345 is under a special task force 981 00:39:45,428 --> 00:39:46,845 of the Atlanta Police Department 982 00:39:46,928 --> 00:39:48,011 with assistance 983 00:39:48,094 --> 00:39:49,511 from the Georgia Bureau of Investigation. 984 00:39:49,595 --> 00:39:50,887 - When the task force was formed, 985 00:39:50,969 --> 00:39:52,386 the Georgia Bureau of Investigation, 986 00:39:52,470 --> 00:39:54,595 Atlanta PD, the Fulton County Sheriff's Office, 987 00:39:54,678 --> 00:39:55,887 everybody was involved. 988 00:39:55,969 --> 00:39:58,386 - The head the task force is Major W.J. Taylor, 989 00:39:58,470 --> 00:39:59,887 whose background includes traffic, 990 00:39:59,969 --> 00:40:01,845 the SWAT team, and community affairs, 991 00:40:01,928 --> 00:40:04,053 but no investigative duties. 992 00:40:04,136 --> 00:40:05,720 - To my surprise, 993 00:40:05,803 --> 00:40:08,011 I was called into the commissioner's office 994 00:40:08,094 --> 00:40:09,928 and told that I was going to become 995 00:40:10,011 --> 00:40:11,386 the commander of that task force. 996 00:40:11,470 --> 00:40:14,553 I was absolutely shocked at the time, 997 00:40:14,637 --> 00:40:16,386 because prior to that time, 998 00:40:16,470 --> 00:40:19,553 I had not worked any homicide cases. 999 00:40:19,637 --> 00:40:21,219 It was sort of comical. 1000 00:40:21,303 --> 00:40:23,386 The homicide commander at that time 1001 00:40:23,470 --> 00:40:25,053 made a joke about it, he said, 1002 00:40:25,136 --> 00:40:26,178 "Taylor wouldn't know a dead body 1003 00:40:26,261 --> 00:40:27,511 if he walked-- fell over it." 1004 00:40:27,595 --> 00:40:29,553 - If you have any information, 1005 00:40:29,637 --> 00:40:31,969 please call the Special Task Force on Children 1006 00:40:32,053 --> 00:40:33,595 at 658-68... 1007 00:40:33,678 --> 00:40:36,136 - We were getting thousands of leads and tips 1008 00:40:36,219 --> 00:40:37,887 into the task force. 1009 00:40:37,969 --> 00:40:39,553 It was overwhelming. 1010 00:40:39,637 --> 00:40:42,261 - We're not gonna leave any stone unturned. 1011 00:40:42,345 --> 00:40:45,969 And I suppose one of the biggest frustrations 1012 00:40:46,053 --> 00:40:48,011 that we had: we invited to-- 1013 00:40:48,094 --> 00:40:51,428 the commissioner invited-- well, I won't say he invited. 1014 00:40:51,511 --> 00:40:53,261 He was almost forced. 1015 00:40:53,345 --> 00:40:56,720 Dorothy Allison, which is a-- I guess she was a psychic 1016 00:40:56,803 --> 00:40:58,219 contacted the media, 1017 00:40:58,303 --> 00:41:00,428 and told the media that she had information 1018 00:41:00,511 --> 00:41:02,887 regarding who was killing the kids. 1019 00:41:02,969 --> 00:41:04,178 - Are you confident you'll be able 1020 00:41:04,261 --> 00:41:05,219 to solve this crime? - I'm positive. 1021 00:41:05,303 --> 00:41:06,637 I'm not confident. 1022 00:41:06,720 --> 00:41:08,303 There won't be any more dead. I'm here now. 1023 00:41:08,386 --> 00:41:11,053 - So we get the psychic coming in. 1024 00:41:11,136 --> 00:41:12,845 We have to chauffeur her around 1025 00:41:12,969 --> 00:41:14,969 to the various crime sites. 1026 00:41:15,053 --> 00:41:16,345 - A visit by Dorothy Allison 1027 00:41:16,428 --> 00:41:18,678 has all the trappings of a visit by a celebrity. 1028 00:41:18,762 --> 00:41:20,637 Her two-car caravan is filled 1029 00:41:20,720 --> 00:41:22,637 with investigators and companions. 1030 00:41:22,720 --> 00:41:25,094 They pour into the house and hover over the psychic 1031 00:41:25,178 --> 00:41:26,678 until she gets what she is after, 1032 00:41:26,762 --> 00:41:28,219 and what she is after 1033 00:41:28,303 --> 00:41:30,136 is a feeling, an impression, 1034 00:41:30,219 --> 00:41:32,845 a mental image which will lead police to a solution. 1035 00:41:32,928 --> 00:41:36,845 And today, Dorothy Allison feels she will have answers. 1036 00:41:36,928 --> 00:41:39,637 - And as a result of that one psychic, 1037 00:41:39,720 --> 00:41:42,094 I think every psychic in the country 1038 00:41:42,178 --> 00:41:44,803 decided they had information that we needed. 1039 00:41:44,887 --> 00:41:46,637 - There. Oh, God. 1040 00:41:46,720 --> 00:41:50,803 ♪ ♪ 1041 00:41:50,887 --> 00:41:53,845 This is...bad. 1042 00:41:53,969 --> 00:41:56,553 Bad. 1043 00:41:56,637 --> 00:41:57,553 - And then it's like... 1044 00:41:57,637 --> 00:41:59,178 And you sit there, and you're like, 1045 00:41:59,261 --> 00:42:00,720 "What? What just happened?" 1046 00:42:00,803 --> 00:42:03,678 That's the kind of crazy that was going on in Atlanta. 1047 00:42:03,762 --> 00:42:06,011 - Dressed in red berets and insignia T-shirts, 1048 00:42:06,094 --> 00:42:07,803 New York's Guardian Angels came to teach 1049 00:42:07,887 --> 00:42:10,219 Atlanta's children how to protect themselves. 1050 00:42:10,887 --> 00:42:13,803 - There's no doubt that in the public housing projects, 1051 00:42:13,887 --> 00:42:16,887 people had pretty much lost faith in law enforcement. 1052 00:42:16,969 --> 00:42:19,887 - If a serious crime is being committed on this corner, 1053 00:42:19,969 --> 00:42:21,595 we're not just gonna run to a telephone 1054 00:42:21,678 --> 00:42:22,845 and call the police. 1055 00:42:22,928 --> 00:42:25,136 We are going to utilize our constitutional power 1056 00:42:25,219 --> 00:42:26,345 of making a citizen's arrest. 1057 00:42:26,428 --> 00:42:29,011 We're gonna pursue that individual, detain him. 1058 00:42:29,094 --> 00:42:30,178 - There's a lot of people that say, 1059 00:42:30,261 --> 00:42:31,969 "We just don't see cops anywhere, we don't see it." 1060 00:42:32,053 --> 00:42:34,428 I brought that to the attention of Lee Brown, 1061 00:42:34,511 --> 00:42:35,928 who was the public safety director. 1062 00:42:36,011 --> 00:42:38,094 He said, "Well, we have budgetary issues." 1063 00:42:38,178 --> 00:42:39,887 I said, "You might have budgetary issues, 1064 00:42:39,969 --> 00:42:42,553 "but you need to get cops out there in uniform, 1065 00:42:42,637 --> 00:42:44,678 showing people that you dare to care." 1066 00:42:45,595 --> 00:42:47,511 - Everything you could think of, 1067 00:42:47,595 --> 00:42:51,094 from psychics to dogs to profilers... 1068 00:42:51,178 --> 00:42:54,845 They were just throwing stuff up against the wall 1069 00:42:54,928 --> 00:42:57,845 rather than getting back to basic police work. 1070 00:42:57,928 --> 00:43:00,428 - But, Lord, I really hope they find out who's doing this 1071 00:43:00,511 --> 00:43:02,053 and get them stopped, 1072 00:43:02,136 --> 00:43:04,345 because this city can't handle 1073 00:43:04,428 --> 00:43:06,303 losing many more children. 1074 00:43:06,386 --> 00:43:08,720 - Christopher Richardson, age 11. 1075 00:43:08,803 --> 00:43:11,428 He vanished while playing near his home June 9th 1076 00:43:11,511 --> 00:43:13,053 and is still missing. 1077 00:43:13,136 --> 00:43:14,720 - We're just so upset. 1078 00:43:14,803 --> 00:43:18,762 We are concerned about our boy. 1079 00:43:18,845 --> 00:43:20,261 And all I want is just tell him 1080 00:43:20,345 --> 00:43:22,261 "Your mom's here." 1081 00:43:22,345 --> 00:43:23,595 - He used to play with a little boy 1082 00:43:23,678 --> 00:43:25,261 down the street. 1083 00:43:25,720 --> 00:43:29,345 They just disappeared from the neighborhood. 1084 00:43:30,053 --> 00:43:32,720 I called the police. 1085 00:43:32,803 --> 00:43:36,261 They told me that they couldn't do anything 1086 00:43:36,345 --> 00:43:39,595 because it was... 1087 00:43:39,678 --> 00:43:41,969 I don't know how they handled it. 1088 00:43:42,053 --> 00:43:44,261 It wasn't the way I thought it would be. 1089 00:43:44,345 --> 00:43:46,553 I thought they would come, you know, 1090 00:43:46,637 --> 00:43:49,094 sit down and talk to me and explain 1091 00:43:49,178 --> 00:43:50,762 some of this stuff that was going on, 1092 00:43:50,845 --> 00:43:53,762 but I didn't get a chance-- 1093 00:43:53,845 --> 00:43:56,511 or they didn't get a chance to talk with me about it. 1094 00:43:57,845 --> 00:43:59,969 Just, I don't understand 1095 00:44:00,053 --> 00:44:03,845 how people can just take your child like that. 1096 00:44:03,928 --> 00:44:08,094 We looked everywhere we knew to look, 1097 00:44:08,178 --> 00:44:10,261 but I couldn't find my baby. 1098 00:44:11,845 --> 00:44:13,969 - Anthony Carter, age nine, 1099 00:44:14,053 --> 00:44:16,637 found stabbed to death July 7th, 1100 00:44:16,720 --> 00:44:18,969 and Earl Lee Terrell, 1101 00:44:19,053 --> 00:44:20,803 last seen on July 30th, 1102 00:44:20,887 --> 00:44:22,595 still missing. 1103 00:44:22,678 --> 00:44:24,178 - Earl Lee Terrell was my brother. 1104 00:44:24,261 --> 00:44:26,511 We was two years apart. He was the oldest. 1105 00:44:26,595 --> 00:44:30,803 ♪ ♪ 1106 00:44:30,887 --> 00:44:32,637 I remember how we used 1107 00:44:32,720 --> 00:44:34,136 to play here all over this place. 1108 00:44:34,219 --> 00:44:36,470 All the kids used to be out here. 1109 00:44:36,553 --> 00:44:39,303 Whole bunch of kids out here. 1110 00:44:39,386 --> 00:44:41,219 That day, my brother Earl was like, 1111 00:44:41,303 --> 00:44:43,595 "I want to go to the swimming pool." 1112 00:44:43,678 --> 00:44:45,345 My brother didn't have no clean swimming trunks, 1113 00:44:45,428 --> 00:44:46,386 so I gave him my swimming trunks, 1114 00:44:46,470 --> 00:44:47,720 and I gave him my money, 1115 00:44:47,803 --> 00:44:49,553 and 20 minutes later, 1116 00:44:49,637 --> 00:44:51,845 start walking-- they came to the pool. 1117 00:44:51,928 --> 00:44:54,136 That's when it all started. 1118 00:44:54,219 --> 00:44:56,011 - Terrell was last seen in July, 1119 00:44:56,094 --> 00:44:58,261 sitting outside a pool at South Bend Park. 1120 00:44:58,345 --> 00:45:01,261 Then he mysteriously disappeared. 1121 00:45:01,345 --> 00:45:03,178 - It wasn't unusual for him to walk home. 1122 00:45:03,261 --> 00:45:05,178 He knew to go straight home. 1123 00:45:05,261 --> 00:45:06,637 So that's why I was kind of-- 1124 00:45:06,720 --> 00:45:08,887 it's kind of crazy to me, like... 1125 00:45:10,094 --> 00:45:11,637 How? 1126 00:45:12,803 --> 00:45:14,178 We went looking for him, 1127 00:45:14,261 --> 00:45:16,678 went all over the neighborhood where we always hang out at, 1128 00:45:16,762 --> 00:45:18,720 and never found him. 1129 00:45:18,803 --> 00:45:20,511 ♪ ♪ 1130 00:45:20,595 --> 00:45:22,136 - We were asking Maynard Jackson 1131 00:45:22,219 --> 00:45:26,178 to warn the city that something was going on. 1132 00:45:26,261 --> 00:45:28,553 He told us he didn't want to alarm 1133 00:45:28,637 --> 00:45:30,553 people in the city of Atlanta. 1134 00:45:30,637 --> 00:45:33,928 His own workers 1135 00:45:34,011 --> 00:45:37,720 put Earl Terrell out of that swimming pool 1136 00:45:37,803 --> 00:45:41,053 because they didn't know it was so unsafe out there, 1137 00:45:41,136 --> 00:45:43,386 and that would've been fine 1138 00:45:43,470 --> 00:45:46,345 if it had been 1978 in Atlanta, 1139 00:45:46,428 --> 00:45:48,219 but it was 1980, 1140 00:45:48,303 --> 00:45:50,178 and children were being murdered. 1141 00:45:50,261 --> 00:45:54,261 - Clifford Jones became victim number 12. 1142 00:45:54,345 --> 00:45:56,053 - His body was found behind a dumpster 1143 00:45:56,136 --> 00:45:58,094 at the Hollywood Plaza shopping center. 1144 00:45:58,178 --> 00:46:01,595 - Around September of '78, 1145 00:46:01,678 --> 00:46:04,678 we moved to Atlanta from Chattanooga, Tennessee. 1146 00:46:04,762 --> 00:46:07,553 My nephew Clifford came in town to visit us, 1147 00:46:07,637 --> 00:46:08,803 him and his sisters and his brother 1148 00:46:08,887 --> 00:46:10,303 and his mother. 1149 00:46:10,386 --> 00:46:14,219 I was 13, the day before my 14th birthday. 1150 00:46:15,553 --> 00:46:17,887 I asked my older sister to bake me a birthday cake. 1151 00:46:17,969 --> 00:46:20,470 - And we ran out of sugar, 1152 00:46:20,553 --> 00:46:23,637 we didn't have no Kool-Aid, 1153 00:46:23,720 --> 00:46:25,428 and I needed some salt, 1154 00:46:25,511 --> 00:46:27,470 'cause I'm making a homemade cake. 1155 00:46:27,553 --> 00:46:31,094 And I sent them to the store. 1156 00:46:31,178 --> 00:46:32,928 - So we walked up Hollywood Road 1157 00:46:33,011 --> 00:46:35,136 to the store called Big Star. 1158 00:46:36,553 --> 00:46:38,553 Clifford asked, could he stay outside 1159 00:46:38,637 --> 00:46:41,261 to help people put groceries and stuff in they car, 1160 00:46:41,345 --> 00:46:42,428 so I just told Clifford 1161 00:46:42,511 --> 00:46:44,428 just stay in front of the store. 1162 00:46:44,511 --> 00:46:46,011 We got the stuff. 1163 00:46:46,094 --> 00:46:47,428 We was in there probably about 15 minutes, 1164 00:46:47,511 --> 00:46:49,803 and while I was in the line paying for the stuff, 1165 00:46:49,887 --> 00:46:52,303 I asked Emmanuel to go let his brother know 1166 00:46:52,386 --> 00:46:54,969 we finna get ready to go, and he came back into the store 1167 00:46:55,053 --> 00:46:56,845 and he said he didn't see him nowhere. 1168 00:46:56,928 --> 00:46:59,470 So I thought maybe he was in the store, 1169 00:46:59,553 --> 00:47:02,011 so we looked around for him for a few minutes, 1170 00:47:02,094 --> 00:47:03,928 and then we went back outside looking for him, 1171 00:47:04,011 --> 00:47:05,261 but we couldn't find him nowhere, 1172 00:47:05,345 --> 00:47:08,136 so we started to walk home. 1173 00:47:08,219 --> 00:47:09,928 - When they came back in the door, 1174 00:47:10,011 --> 00:47:12,136 there's no Clifford. 1175 00:47:12,219 --> 00:47:15,011 And I looked up the street, I just didn't see him. 1176 00:47:16,720 --> 00:47:19,762 And so we walked back to the Big Star store, 1177 00:47:19,845 --> 00:47:22,303 and we were asking everybody as we pass people 1178 00:47:22,386 --> 00:47:23,803 did they see a little boy. 1179 00:47:23,887 --> 00:47:27,136 ♪ ♪ 1180 00:47:27,219 --> 00:47:30,303 It was about 10:00, almost 11:00. 1181 00:47:31,762 --> 00:47:33,845 They knocked on the door. 1182 00:47:33,928 --> 00:47:35,678 They were trying to get me to look at the picture, 1183 00:47:35,762 --> 00:47:37,011 and I didn't want to look at it 1184 00:47:37,094 --> 00:47:39,011 'cause I didn't want it to be Clifford. 1185 00:47:39,094 --> 00:47:46,178 ♪ ♪ 1186 00:47:46,428 --> 00:47:48,803 And I just fell to the floor, 1187 00:47:48,887 --> 00:47:50,845 and I guess I must've passed out, 1188 00:47:50,928 --> 00:47:53,511 'cause my brother Ricky was the one 1189 00:47:53,595 --> 00:47:56,345 who had to identify Clifford's body. 1190 00:47:56,428 --> 00:47:59,178 And when he came back in the door, he told me-- 1191 00:47:59,261 --> 00:48:02,553 told me that it was him, 1192 00:48:02,637 --> 00:48:05,553 said he's laying down there like he asleep. 1193 00:48:05,637 --> 00:48:08,553 ♪ ♪ 1194 00:48:08,637 --> 00:48:10,511 - I'm just so sorry. 1195 00:48:10,595 --> 00:48:11,928 I was just so excited 1196 00:48:12,011 --> 00:48:14,887 that I was gonna get that birthday cake, and-- 1197 00:48:14,969 --> 00:48:17,553 that I took the-- went to that store 1198 00:48:17,637 --> 00:48:19,720 and he didn't come back with me. 1199 00:48:19,803 --> 00:48:21,553 I'm sorry. [cries] 1200 00:48:21,637 --> 00:48:23,553 - But you don't have no reason to be sorry. 1201 00:48:23,637 --> 00:48:26,928 You didn't do--you didn't have nothing to do with it. 1202 00:48:27,011 --> 00:48:30,178 No, you did not cause that to happen. 1203 00:48:30,261 --> 00:48:31,386 - [sniffs] 1204 00:48:31,470 --> 00:48:34,428 - I'm gonna always be big sister, no matter what. 1205 00:48:34,511 --> 00:48:36,553 - I know. 1206 00:48:36,637 --> 00:48:38,678 I love you, big sister. 1207 00:48:38,762 --> 00:48:41,678 [crying] 1208 00:48:41,762 --> 00:48:45,720 ♪ ♪ 1209 00:48:45,803 --> 00:48:48,261 [soulful music playing] 1210 00:48:48,345 --> 00:48:50,178 ♪ ♪ 1211 00:48:50,261 --> 00:48:52,386 - He was victim number 14, 1212 00:48:52,470 --> 00:48:54,094 the latest to die. 1213 00:48:54,178 --> 00:48:56,053 12-year-old Charles Stephens, 1214 00:48:56,136 --> 00:48:57,428 smothered to death. 1215 00:48:57,511 --> 00:49:00,762 - In the face of all of our tragedies, 1216 00:49:00,845 --> 00:49:02,969 we wonder sometimes, 1217 00:49:03,053 --> 00:49:05,219 "Where is God?" 1218 00:49:05,303 --> 00:49:06,595 - What is happening in the black community? 1219 00:49:06,678 --> 00:49:08,428 There's all this violence directed at us. 1220 00:49:08,511 --> 00:49:10,386 Nobody was really sure what was happening. 1221 00:49:10,470 --> 00:49:14,928 You know, a couple kids-- that's just a murder. 1222 00:49:15,011 --> 00:49:16,637 Five kids? Wait a minute. 1223 00:49:16,720 --> 00:49:17,762 Ten kids? 1224 00:49:17,845 --> 00:49:19,428 12 kids? 1225 00:49:19,511 --> 00:49:20,887 As it built, 1226 00:49:20,969 --> 00:49:23,928 you could feel the anxiety building with people because 1227 00:49:24,011 --> 00:49:27,637 this constant in the life of black people vulnerability, 1228 00:49:27,720 --> 00:49:30,136 that at any moment, you could be stolen. 1229 00:49:30,219 --> 00:49:32,303 [uneasy music] 1230 00:49:32,386 --> 00:49:34,219 That's deep in our psyche, 1231 00:49:34,303 --> 00:49:36,470 that we come from stolen people. 1232 00:49:36,553 --> 00:49:37,803 We know people who have been stolen 1233 00:49:37,887 --> 00:49:39,678 in our family legacy. 1234 00:49:39,762 --> 00:49:42,345 And so the thought of children being stolen 1235 00:49:42,428 --> 00:49:45,011 right in front of their house, right in their own community, 1236 00:49:45,094 --> 00:49:46,094 walking home from school, 1237 00:49:46,178 --> 00:49:47,428 from this neighborhood store... 1238 00:49:47,511 --> 00:49:49,969 ♪ ♪ 1239 00:49:50,053 --> 00:49:53,470 [stammers] It was hard to even process emotionally, 1240 00:49:53,553 --> 00:49:56,303 you know, in the black mecca city 1241 00:49:56,386 --> 00:49:57,637 of Atlanta. 1242 00:49:57,720 --> 00:50:00,178 - In the community, there was a lot of frustration 1243 00:50:00,261 --> 00:50:02,136 around the child murders, 1244 00:50:02,219 --> 00:50:03,928 and it really came to a head 1245 00:50:04,011 --> 00:50:06,845 with the October 1980 explosion 1246 00:50:06,928 --> 00:50:09,136 at the daycare center in Bowen Homes. 1247 00:50:09,219 --> 00:50:11,762 - 10:22 on October 13th, 1248 00:50:11,845 --> 00:50:15,678 an explosion with the force of 75 sticks of dynamite 1249 00:50:15,762 --> 00:50:18,470 ripped the roof off the daycare center. 1250 00:50:18,553 --> 00:50:19,969 - Sir, do you have children in there? 1251 00:50:20,053 --> 00:50:21,386 - Yeah. - Who? 1252 00:50:21,470 --> 00:50:22,845 - Uh, my little-- I got nieces. 1253 00:50:22,928 --> 00:50:24,678 I got about nine nieces in there. 1254 00:50:24,762 --> 00:50:26,511 - The Bowen Home explosion. 1255 00:50:26,595 --> 00:50:29,345 I was laying in my bed, 1256 00:50:29,428 --> 00:50:32,178 and this is the daycare, and this is my apartment. 1257 00:50:32,261 --> 00:50:34,345 So it shook my whole bed. 1258 00:50:34,428 --> 00:50:36,011 It shook the whole apartment. 1259 00:50:36,094 --> 00:50:37,845 - There were five people dead, 1260 00:50:37,928 --> 00:50:40,345 four of them children, 1261 00:50:40,428 --> 00:50:42,261 the fifth being a teacher. 1262 00:50:42,345 --> 00:50:43,720 - The first ambulance to arrive 1263 00:50:43,803 --> 00:50:45,511 held six-year-old Vermika Moreland, 1264 00:50:45,595 --> 00:50:47,345 critically injured with a depression fracture 1265 00:50:47,428 --> 00:50:48,511 in her skull. 1266 00:50:48,595 --> 00:50:50,678 From then, it was a horrifying parade 1267 00:50:50,762 --> 00:50:52,178 of small, injured children. 1268 00:50:52,261 --> 00:50:53,969 - The black community was panicked. 1269 00:50:54,053 --> 00:50:56,553 Nine children in Atlanta were already murdered. 1270 00:50:56,637 --> 00:50:57,887 Now this. 1271 00:50:57,969 --> 00:50:59,428 - [shrieking] My baby! 1272 00:50:59,511 --> 00:51:01,470 - There was a sense that the community 1273 00:51:01,553 --> 00:51:03,094 was under attack. 1274 00:51:03,178 --> 00:51:05,511 - Listen to me. Listen to me. 1275 00:51:05,595 --> 00:51:07,219 - Can you confirm how many were dead, sir? 1276 00:51:07,303 --> 00:51:09,511 - There are five confirmed dead. 1277 00:51:09,595 --> 00:51:11,261 ♪ ♪ 1278 00:51:11,345 --> 00:51:12,887 - How does this happen? 1279 00:51:12,969 --> 00:51:15,928 People felt someone had planted a bomb. 1280 00:51:16,011 --> 00:51:19,136 Other people thought the Klan had come in. 1281 00:51:20,345 --> 00:51:24,011 Everyone assumed that there was a plot 1282 00:51:24,094 --> 00:51:27,637 to kill mass numbers of black children. 1283 00:51:27,720 --> 00:51:30,219 - There was a group of people, very angry, 1284 00:51:30,303 --> 00:51:32,553 who insisted this was deliberate. 1285 00:51:32,637 --> 00:51:33,928 - [shouting indistinctly] 1286 00:51:34,011 --> 00:51:35,595 - I called the mayor, and he came. 1287 00:51:35,678 --> 00:51:37,219 ♪ ♪ 1288 00:51:37,303 --> 00:51:41,637 - There was still smoke coming from the daycare center-- 1289 00:51:41,720 --> 00:51:44,094 what was left of it-- debris scattered around. 1290 00:51:44,178 --> 00:51:47,094 You had all of these mothers 1291 00:51:47,178 --> 00:51:48,762 and relatives... 1292 00:51:48,845 --> 00:51:50,386 - Annie May? - Annie May Barber. 1293 00:51:50,470 --> 00:51:52,303 - Of these children who attended 1294 00:51:52,386 --> 00:51:53,470 the daycare center, 1295 00:51:53,553 --> 00:51:55,928 and in the middle of all this, 1296 00:51:56,011 --> 00:51:59,011 Maynard Jackson with a megaphone 1297 00:51:59,094 --> 00:52:02,053 trying to quell this crowd. 1298 00:52:02,136 --> 00:52:03,428 [somber music] 1299 00:52:03,511 --> 00:52:05,470 - [indistinct] 1300 00:52:05,553 --> 00:52:08,928 ♪ ♪ 1301 00:52:09,011 --> 00:52:10,803 [megaphone crackling] 1302 00:52:10,887 --> 00:52:12,553 - We want-- 1303 00:52:12,637 --> 00:52:14,094 do you have another megaphone? 1304 00:52:14,178 --> 00:52:17,428 - Maynard Jackson had no answers at the time 1305 00:52:17,511 --> 00:52:19,428 other than to say that 1306 00:52:19,511 --> 00:52:20,803 they could count on the fact 1307 00:52:20,887 --> 00:52:23,303 that there would be more investigation. 1308 00:52:23,386 --> 00:52:26,511 - I want you to know we will not rest 1309 00:52:26,595 --> 00:52:28,928 until we turn every stone 1310 00:52:29,011 --> 00:52:31,969 to find the reason for this, 1311 00:52:32,053 --> 00:52:36,637 which at this point, appears to be an accident. 1312 00:52:36,720 --> 00:52:38,803 What else do we have? 1313 00:52:38,887 --> 00:52:41,303 - There was a sense of questioning 1314 00:52:41,386 --> 00:52:42,762 whether there was--you know, 1315 00:52:42,845 --> 00:52:45,511 the competence of the people who were in charge. 1316 00:52:45,595 --> 00:52:50,053 - Our fire and police officials have told us 1317 00:52:50,136 --> 00:52:52,261 the only evidence we have at this time 1318 00:52:52,345 --> 00:52:55,470 indicates that this was an accident. 1319 00:52:55,553 --> 00:52:57,303 [crowd murmurs] Just a minute. 1320 00:52:57,386 --> 00:52:58,803 Just a minute. 1321 00:52:58,887 --> 00:53:00,928 - Everyone was so hysterical, 1322 00:53:01,011 --> 00:53:03,136 so that when Maynard came... 1323 00:53:03,219 --> 00:53:05,303 ♪ ♪ 1324 00:53:05,386 --> 00:53:06,720 It was almost as if 1325 00:53:06,803 --> 00:53:09,345 a sea of people wanted to attack him... 1326 00:53:09,428 --> 00:53:10,969 - I know the frustration you feel. 1327 00:53:11,053 --> 00:53:12,887 I feel the same frustration. 1328 00:53:12,969 --> 00:53:14,094 [crowd clamoring] Just a minute! 1329 00:53:14,178 --> 00:53:15,845 Just a minute! - Don't get mad at us! 1330 00:53:15,928 --> 00:53:18,928 - That's the God's truth! 1331 00:53:19,011 --> 00:53:22,303 - To blame him for what had happened. 1332 00:53:22,386 --> 00:53:25,345 - I tell you, I want-- I want to do some volunteer-- 1333 00:53:25,428 --> 00:53:26,553 I don't want no kind of publicity. 1334 00:53:26,637 --> 00:53:27,678 I wanna do some volunteer. 1335 00:53:27,762 --> 00:53:28,887 I wanna be the volunteer work. 1336 00:53:28,969 --> 00:53:31,136 I wanna go out there and find out why it happened 1337 00:53:31,219 --> 00:53:33,053 and what it happened with and who did it. 1338 00:53:33,136 --> 00:53:34,678 That's what I want to find out--who did it-- 1339 00:53:34,762 --> 00:53:36,178 because he didn't do it on his own. 1340 00:53:36,261 --> 00:53:37,887 Somebody had to have a key. 1341 00:53:37,969 --> 00:53:39,136 The door was open! 1342 00:53:39,219 --> 00:53:43,219 - This could have turned into a riot, 1343 00:53:43,303 --> 00:53:45,595 because people were that angry. 1344 00:53:45,678 --> 00:53:50,053 [people shouting] 1345 00:53:50,136 --> 00:53:52,053 - See you on TV, we don't want to see you 1346 00:53:52,136 --> 00:53:53,845 at voting time, we want to see you now 1347 00:53:53,928 --> 00:53:55,219 about our children. - Damn straight! 1348 00:53:55,303 --> 00:53:57,219 - The mayor was painted 1349 00:53:57,303 --> 00:53:58,887 with a broad brush 1350 00:53:58,969 --> 00:54:03,219 as caring more for the city and its image 1351 00:54:03,303 --> 00:54:05,720 than caring about the black children. 1352 00:54:05,803 --> 00:54:08,386 - And I know you in a bad spot, 1353 00:54:08,470 --> 00:54:11,553 but that's the price you pay when you're on the other side. 1354 00:54:11,637 --> 00:54:14,553 [cheers and applause] 1355 00:54:14,637 --> 00:54:17,762 - The Bowen Homes thing was the landmark 1356 00:54:17,845 --> 00:54:20,428 in this struggle, because... 1357 00:54:20,511 --> 00:54:22,386 it really showed the divide 1358 00:54:22,470 --> 00:54:24,219 between the community 1359 00:54:24,303 --> 00:54:26,136 and the political leadership, 1360 00:54:26,219 --> 00:54:27,595 the elected political leadership. 1361 00:54:27,678 --> 00:54:29,428 - The blood of those babies 1362 00:54:29,511 --> 00:54:31,261 are on the hands of this system 1363 00:54:31,345 --> 00:54:33,094 that forces us to live like dogs. 1364 00:54:33,178 --> 00:54:36,178 [cheers and applause] 1365 00:54:38,345 --> 00:54:40,637 - I don't know exactly what happened at Bowen Homes. 1366 00:54:40,720 --> 00:54:42,094 They said a boiler blew up, 1367 00:54:42,178 --> 00:54:44,094 but Bowen Homes and the explosion 1368 00:54:44,178 --> 00:54:46,553 at the daycare center there really acted as a catalyst 1369 00:54:46,637 --> 00:54:50,136 because all of a sudden, it brought together 1370 00:54:50,219 --> 00:54:51,720 the message of the child murders being, 1371 00:54:51,803 --> 00:54:52,928 "you are powerless." 1372 00:54:53,011 --> 00:54:54,303 - Who runs the Klan? 1373 00:54:54,386 --> 00:54:56,762 It's those rich dogs that wanna... 1374 00:54:56,845 --> 00:54:59,470 [shouting and applause] 1375 00:54:59,553 --> 00:55:02,428 - It is, "you are powerless when these young people 1376 00:55:02,511 --> 00:55:05,261 "are being abducted one by one and taken out, 1377 00:55:05,345 --> 00:55:07,136 "and now, look, we can just come in 1378 00:55:07,219 --> 00:55:08,678 and blow up your babies." 1379 00:55:08,762 --> 00:55:11,136 - Darn right, I'm emotional! - That's right. 1380 00:55:11,219 --> 00:55:12,969 - When the Bowen Homes thing happened, 1381 00:55:13,053 --> 00:55:14,428 that's the closest it got to, 1382 00:55:14,511 --> 00:55:16,178 "Okay, now this is gonna get bad." 1383 00:55:16,261 --> 00:55:19,845 - City too busy to hate? 1384 00:55:19,928 --> 00:55:21,386 It's a slogan. 1385 00:55:22,720 --> 00:55:25,637 [somber string music] 1386 00:55:25,720 --> 00:55:32,720 ♪ ♪ 1387 00:55:59,470 --> 00:56:01,470 [bright tone] 1388 00:56:03,762 --> 00:56:04,678 KEISHA LANCE BOTTOMS: The number is staggering. 1389 00:56:04,762 --> 00:56:05,470 Thirty murders? 1390 00:56:05,928 --> 00:56:07,345 We don't know if there was something else 1391 00:56:07,428 --> 00:56:09,720 that we still haven't pieced together. 1392 00:56:10,428 --> 00:56:13,219 MAN: Somebody knows who's doing this series 1393 00:56:13,303 --> 00:56:14,386 of attacks on our children. 1394 00:56:14,803 --> 00:56:18,428 He was the connection between all of these victims. 1395 00:56:18,969 --> 00:56:21,928 SPEAKER: Did Wayne Williams kill any of these children? 1396 00:56:22,011 --> 00:56:23,345 CROWD: (CHANTING) No. 1397 00:56:23,678 --> 00:56:24,720 After 40 years, 1398 00:56:24,803 --> 00:56:26,553 we're still searching for answers. 1399 00:56:27,219 --> 00:56:29,136 ♪ (SOMBER MUSIC PLAYS) ♪ 1400 00:56:30,969 --> 00:56:32,345 ♪ (MUSIC CONCLUDES) ♪ 96708

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