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I thought you couldn't smoke here.

I can't.

But you can.

Frie, if you've got anything else
on Stefaan,

you have to tell me.

Any detail helps for a good defense.

I never should have left Roos with him.

I shouldn't have lost custody.

Do they give you your pills
in the morning?

Can't you see how happy I am?

Frie, please.
-I won't hurt myself, Ari.

You've said that before.

In three days it's our turn.

The Chairman will question you

and the jury
will get a sense of who you really are

rather than what the media
has turned you into.

Where am I going?

It's not an easy task,
deciding on someone else's fate.

I want a jury that will handle the case
carefully and conscientiously.

But I do think it's a very noble idea

to let people
from all walks of life decide

about the worst crimes in our society.

Hello, madam.
Place your coat in the box please.

Bag, coat.

Do you have any pockets?
-No.

Okay, here you go.

Thank you. You can get your things.

This way, please.

Ladies and gentlemen, in a minute
we will randomly select jury members.

We use a system
of random selection and questioning.

If your name is drawn...
-Sorry.

And you are?
-Delphine Spijkers.

Right. Sir, could you move up?
You can sit here, madam.

We will now select the jury.

Holly Ceusters.

Agreed.

Agreed.
-That makes you our first jury member.

You can sit down.
-Thank you.

Arnold Briers.

Yes.

Agreed.
-Agreed.

You can sit down.

Myriam Vermeiren.

Yes.

Not agreed.

Please go back to your seat.

Thank you.

Joeri Cornille.

Yes.
-Agreed.

You can sit down, sir.
-Thank you.

Naima Boukhari.

Agreed.

Vera De Block.

No�l Marinus.

Agreed.

That makes you jury member number 12.
You can sit down.

Lucky.

Finally, we will choose
two alternate jury members.

Delphine Spijkers.

Delphine Spijkers.

Are you Delphine Spijkers?

Yes.

Agreed.

Agreed.

You can sit down.

No.

Excuse me?

I...

I'm sorry, I thought that
the 12 members had been chosen.

We always choose two alternates,
in case we need to replace someone.

But I can't, I have three children.

We'll give you plenty of time
to make childcare arrangements.

I don't feel well.

I need you to take your place.
It's your duty.

I have a headache.
-Madam.

Do you have a doctor's note?

Then I'm afraid
you don't have a valid reason.

Demir Karaca.

Are you all right?

Nice to meet you.

What a case.
-Yes.

I never thought I'd be here.

Maybe we should introduce ourselves.

I'm Joeri.

Kurt.

Arnold.

Vera.

Demir.

Carl.

I'm Holly.

Guys, it's like we're in an AA meeting
or something.

This is not an AA meeting.

Aren't we wasting our time here?

I think she's guilty.

The trial hasn't even started.
We're supposed to be impartial, aren't we?

Sure, but everyone's made up their minds,
haven't they?

No.

Fine.

Do you know if alternate jury members
have to stay here the whole time?

I think so.

Hi everyone, please listen carefully.
We expect to see you here on Monday.

This flyer should have
all of the information you need.

Today in Ghent...
-Hello everyone.

We are at the Millennium Trial
for news-box. be.

It's important to know the facts.
Frie Palmers is accused of two murders:

her best friend,
Brechtje Vindevogel, in 2000

and her daughter Roos in 2016.

In the Millennium Trial of Frie Palmers

the jury has a difficult job to do.

Palmers is accused of killing her daughter
Roos De Munck with a shard of glass

after losing custody of her
in an ugly divorce.

Her ex-husband,
Stefaan De Munck, also claims

that Palmers killed her best friend,
Brechtje Vindevogel,

eighteen years ago.

I can't imagine
that Frie would have killed my daughter.

Brechtje and Frie
were best friends in college.

I never saw Frie
do anything violent at all.

Now they're saying that Frie killed
my daughter as well as her own.

I don't believe that.

You disagree with Stefaan De Munck

who says his ex-wife
committed both of the murders?

What do you think?
-I don't have anything to say.

Do you trust the system?

I can't go into that right now.
We can make a statement later.

What do you expect from the jury?
-Excuse me, but

a woman who does something like this
to her own child...

They should...

They can't let her go free.
-My wife means that we hope

that the jury will give Frie
a life sentence.

I understand Stefaan's anger.

I've lost a child too.

But I don't see the connection
between cases from 18 and two years ago.

And in any case, Frie has an alibi.

On January 1, 2000

the day Brechtje disappeared,
she was nowhere near there.

But she was there
on the night Roos was attacked.

Yes.

Frie and Stefaan
had a really bad marriage.

The divorce broke her, but she loved Roos.

And she loved Brechtje.

Hi, Daddy.
-Hey.

Hi, Daddy.
-Hey.

Hi, honey.

How was work?

Not bad.

Lola, could you hang up my coat?

What's for dinner?
-Tripe with apple sauce.

If my bitcoins keep going up,
I can use them to pay for our holiday.

How did the jury thing go?
-Good, I don't have to go back.

Really?
-Yes.

Did you wear the jacket, like I said?
-Yes.

Daddy, I can play a new song
on the piano, want to hear it?

Stop.

Sorry.

Are you okay?

What?

I really need to get rid of the house.

Okay.

I can put it up for sale tomorrow,
if you want me to.

That'd be great.

Don't put it in my old name.

It's Ceusters, not Demeulemeester. Okay?

No problem.

I'll redraft the survey
and send it via courier.

Yes.

What?

No, nothing.

I'm happy we're talking again.

Talking.

One new message.

Hi Joeri, it's me.

I'm calling about the parent meeting.

Are you going or can I go?

The girls said it's okay if I go.

Bryan was going to come with me.

To return the call, press two.
To delete the message, press three.

To save the message and continue,
press hash.

Bjorn.
-Over here.

Brother.
-What are you doing there?

Look at you.

Our new CEO.

What are you doing here?

Who knows, kid.

Sounds like you've been drinking.
-Yes.

Charlien has been looking for you
all evening.

Yes.

What's this?

That's my new house
for Charlien and the little ones.

Did you buy that land?

No.

You're going to buy the land for me.

As the new CEO
of this fantastic construction company.

Hey, Charlien.

No, it's fine. He's standing next to me.

He won't be coming home tonight,
I'll take him with me.

He can sleep at my house.
-We'll see about that.

He's had too much to drink.
-He can't have any more.

All right.

Bye.

Come on, man. Ready? Let's go.

Leave me alone.
-Come on.

Take your house with you.

Daddy.

If you're watching this...

You have to listen to them, Daddy.

They say they're going to hurt me.

You have to listen. Please, stop it.

Sorry, but I've got...

Have you seen this?
-The civil parties are in disagreement.

Animal rights activist Marc Vindevogel
is not convinced

that Frie Palmers
killed his daughter Brechtje

whereas Stefaan De Munck,
Roos' father, is.

Come on, we have to go.

The jury will see this too.

Do you have any doubts about the jury?
The girl that was chosen first-

Holly Ceusters.
-Yes.

Isn't she a little young?

I feel like I've seen her before,
but I don't have a bad feeling about her.

It's like a lottery.

It's all right, Marc.

It will be fine.

Not here.

Ms. Palmers...

please stand.

You are accused
of two very serious crimes.

Let's start with the murder of your friend
Brechtje Vindevogel, in 2000.

Did you get to know each other
in college?

No, we met at a summer job.

At the Motor Show.

Is that where you met Stefaan De Munck?

Yes.

We came from the same area.

Could you tell the jury
about your childhood?

Do you have any brothers or sisters?

No...

it's just me.

Do you have happy memories
of your childhood?

I don't like to talk about that,
because it's taken me...

a lot of effort to deal with...

Were you close to your parents?

They died when you were young.
-Yes.

I was 18 when my father died of cancer.

My mother never got over it.

She always said she would kill herself.
And she did.

Brechtje lost her mom at a young age too.
Did you bond over that?

I guess we did.

Yes.

Now I'd like to talk about
the day in question.

January 1, 2000.

You were together the night before that,
celebrating the New Year.

Yes.

Yes...

It was in Brechtje's room, a house party.

I'm afraid I don't remember much
about that night.

All I remember is waking up in her bed.

Then I had to go
to a New Year's party with my family

and Brechtje left to see her father.
They were going for brunch.

Marc Vindevogel.

Yes.

Your family's New Year's party
on January 1st-

Was that an annual thing?

Yes.

Did you stay there all afternoon?

Yes.

Brechtje went missing that day.

Did you help search for her
later that day?

Yes.

We all joined the search.

Was Stefaan there too?

No. He couldn't handle it. He stayed away.

He missed Brechtje.

I really did everything I could
to help him.

Some people say

that you and Brechtje
had both fallen in love with Stefaan.

No, that's not true.

So you weren't jealous
when Brechtje and Stefaan got together?

No.

I was happy for them.

Your feelings for Stefaan developed later?

Yes.

Not until after Brechtje had died.

You got married two years later.
-Three.

That might sound too soon, but...

We were in a lot of pain.

I know what you're thinking.

I know what everyone's thinking.

You don't get into a relationship
with your best friend's boyfriend.

How long were you married for?

Twelve years.

That's when he left you
for another woman.

Yes.

Margot.

Can you tell me what happened
right before the divorce?

I got pregnant with our daughter.

Why did you wait so long
to have children?

You were 42.

That's personal.
I prefer not to talk about it.

Given the seriousness of the crimes,
I think it's relevant

to give an honest answer to the question,
Ms. Palmers.

We had tried everything, I had...

It wasn't working. There were problems.

Can you be more specific?

I had an STD.

HPV.

My cervix was damaged,
so I couldn't have babies.

Having our daughter
was practically a miracle.

How did you get the STD?

From Stefaan.

He cheated on me.

And yet you didn't want to get a divorce.

But...

he is the father of my child.

The idea that I could do anything
to hurt her...

It's devastating.

It's getting pretty intense.

Just imagine. Your own child.

I don't have any children myself, but...

No?

It's not for me.
I have my nieces and nephews.

That's enough.

Is it okay if I sit here?
-Sure.

I'm starving.
-Why do they want to repeal that?

I find it strange
that the prosecution is convinced

that Frie Palmers
committed both of the murders

when honestly...

What do you do for a living?
-I'm a photographer.

I wrote down that it's a shame
that Stefaan has an STD.

What are you having?
-Stew please.

Shrimp croquettes.
-Vol-au-vent for me.

We're standing outside
the courthouse in Ghent.

A lot of people and press have come
to hear the testimony of Frie Palmers.

As you know,
we also have to talk about the night

your daughter, Roos,
was attacked with a shard of glass.

What was your living arrangement
at the time?

I lived alone.

Margot lived with Stefaan.

Did you and Margot get along?
-No.

Margot is a hypocrite.

You did hire her
as a teacher at your school.

Yes, but I didn't expect her

to be the kind of girl
Stefaan would fall for.

Why not?

He doesn't go for women with her figure.

What kind of figure?

Like...

Flat as a pancake.

When Roos was born

were Margot and Stefaan
living together already?

Yes.

Stefaan left when I was pregnant.

That must have been hard for you

having to face being a mother alone.

I wasn't doing well. I was severely-
I was depressed, I had...

The doctor prescribed me something

that made me agitated.

You were a little more than just agitated.

You even had to go to court
and lost sole custody.

Thanks to the bitch from Social Services.
-Frie, no.

She said I was too aggressive to look
after my child. Can you believe that?

He took me to court.
They gave him custody.

Once every other week I got to see her.
Once in...

Is that normal?

Of course I wanted to see my child more.
Of course.

When was the last time

you saw Roos before the event?

Four days.

So it was ten days before your next visit?

Yes.

Where were you
when the incident happened?

I was still at school.

It was the day after Christmas.
-Yes.

I was alone.

We had an inspection,
there was lots to do.

When I got home, the neighbor called me

saying she had heard

that Roos had been taken away
in an ambulance.

What was the time of the call?

Around midnight.

What do you think happened to Roos,
Ms. Palmers?

I said some stupid things,
I made mistakes, I...

In my divorce.
I know that, of course I do.

But the police never investigated it.

They used everything they had
to put me behind bars.

They even dug up the old court case
about Brechtje.

Those things
have nothing to do with each other.

Why didn't they question Margot
and her mother more thoroughly?

They were there, not me.

I always said

that it was an unsafe environment
for my child over there.

But well.

Look what happened.

Honey, maybe you should-
-Let him wait, Mom.

Thanks.

What's the matter?

Frie is talking nonsense.
-And you're not?

You're not letting her
get in your head, are you?

Should I get myself tested for STDs?

The doctor never confirmed that story.

Stefaan, you should have just told me.

She could have got it anywhere.

Did you tell her I was flat as a pancake?

My darling. She said that, not me.

You're so beautiful.

How did she get it in her head
that I would hurt Roos?

It made you emotional, didn't it?
-What?

That last thing Frie said.
-So?

The foreman of the jury should be neutral.

Please.
-Your name was drawn first

so you're the foreman of the jury.
You can't keep getting emotional.

Sorry Carl, it's a full moon.

I get all excited when that happens.

It's not a full moon.

I thought you might like to thank me.

What?

Here.

Thanks.

Are you parked around the back?
-No, I got the streetcar.

I can give you a ride, if you promise
to keep those bad manners.

There's nothing wrong with bad manners.

That's your car?
-It's my company car.

What do you do?

I took over my dad's construction company.

You?
-I work for the union.

Yikes.

Right, yikes.

See you.
-Okay, bye.

Hey.
-Mommy.

Hi darlings.

Did you have a good day?
-Yes.

Thanks, Gabri�l.
I don't know what I would have done.

No problem, school is around the corner.
-Go get your coats.

I was told to-Hold on.
I was told to give you this.

Could you fill that in?

Can you get your coat, Kylian? I...
I can't come to work during the trial.

I will handle it.

What a coincidence
that you're on the jury.

We were just talking about it last week.

Do you think she did it?

I'm not allowed to talk about it.
-I understand.

Do we have everything? Grab your bag.
Let's go and see Daddy.

Shall I pick them up tomorrow too?

I'll try to arrange something.

It's really nice of you. Okay.
-No problem.

Come on guys, we have to go.
-Bye.

Bye, kids.

Do you have your bag?

Bye. This way.

Marc.

You need to prepare yourself
for a different verdict.

What if Frie is guilty?

Frie has given me so much support.

Take a break from it.

I'll eat something at home.

We're here, darlings.

Seatbelts off.

Come on.

Can you manage?
-Yes.

Let's go.

Book bags.

This must be yours, right?
-Yes.

Kiss.
-Bye, Daddy.

Bye, sweetie.

Be good, you two.
-We will.

You promise?
-We promise.

Don't fight too much.

Hey.

Come here.

I missed you today.
-You did?

You were home so late.

Seeing someone else?

No.

I'd understand.
I know I'm a difficult person.

I can do difficult.

Five minutes.
I just need to brush my teeth.

Shouldn't you do that after?

Mrs. Ceusters, a package.
-Hi. Thank you.

I just need a signature.

Thanks.
-Thank you.

SURVEY

DEMEULEMEESTER DAUGHTER
SURVIVES HORRIBLE HOMEJACKING

At the Millennium Trial,
the indictment was read out.

Frie Palmers was the first to testify.

She spoke about the ugly divorce
from her ex-husband, Stefaan De Munck,

and the difficult relationship with
his new partner, Margot Tindemans.

Palmers is on trial for the murder
of her two-year-old daughter, Roos

and her best friend,
Brechtje Vindevogel, 18 years ago.

The jury has the difficult task
of deciding whether she's guilty.

JURY HAS A DIFFICULT JOB

Are you on the jury after all?

Or not?

I'm an alternate juror.

So you don't have to go every day?

I do.

Are you on it or not?

I had no choice.

I asked you one thing.

One thing.

And you can't even do that.

I'll work something out.

Yes.

You will work something out.

Mike?

Mike, come on.

Mike.

Mike, open the door.

Come on. You can't be serious.

Mike, you can't be serious?

Come on, Mike.
Open the door, please.

Mike.

Mike, please.
Open the door. Come on.

Come on, Mike.

Madam, my child.

My daughter.
Where's my child? Roos.

Roos De Munck.
-Calm down.

What happened?
Was she attacked or something? Roos.

Ms. Palmers. I'm Chief Inspector
Eliane Pascual, federal police.

Remember me?
-I really can't-

I can't let anyone in.
-I'll take it from here, thank you.

All right, calm down.

Ms. Palmers.

I understand you want to see your daughter
but you need to calm down first, okay?

Calm down.

Shall we sit down?

Ms. Palmers.

Your daughter was injured at home
by a shard in her neck.

They are operating on her right now.

We would like to ask you to cooperate.
Then you'll be able to...

Voluntary DNA testing, what-

We'd like to exclude as many people
as possible right now.

Can I see my child then?

Yes, okay.

If you could just open your mouth, please.

A little wider.

Then we're done.

Can we go and see Roos now?
-Listen up.

I know you've just tried to cut
your daughter's throat and I'll get you.

I'll make sure you go to prison
for a long time.

Subtitle translation by Nienke Jenkins

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