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Congratulations,
Mr. President.
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Johnson:
Just the beginning, Bob.
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Man:
Sir! Mr. President!
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Over here, please!
Thank you!
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She is pretty.
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- Having a good time, George?
- Great night, Mr. President.
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- What a night.
- Johnson: You bet, George.
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Mr. Johnson!
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Thank you, sir!
Mrs. Johnson!
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Man: Get him, girls.
Get him.
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Senator Dirksen,
the president would
be delighted
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if you'd join him
in the Oval Office
after the ball.
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I will.
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One thing I can say
about the Great Society--
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it sure is crowded.
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Up all night writing
this one, Dick?
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Uh, this is one speech
I'll gladly disavow.
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Got a clipping here.
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Quotes my honorable
defeated opponent,
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Senator Goldwater.
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Calls my secretary of defense
"an IBM machine with legs."
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Outrageous!
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Now, I stand here tonight
to tell you
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that I regard
Bob McNamara here
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as not only
one of the smartest,
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but one of the most humane
men I know.
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Yeah.
Over here.
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Man:
Goldwater's history!
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And that goes for all
my blue-ribbon men
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you see here tonight.
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Yep.
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Never in our history
has there been
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such an abundance
of brains and talent.
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Why, I've got three
or four Rhodes scholars,
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four or five graduates
of Harvard,
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a couple from Yale.
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And, why, there's even
one here tonight
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from Southwest Texas State
Teachers College.
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And don't you know,
that one rules the roost.
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♪ The eyes of Texas
are upon you ♪
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♪ All the livelong day ♪
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♪ The eyes of Texas
are upon you ♪
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♪ You cannot get away ♪
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♪ Do not think
you can escape them ♪
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♪ At night
or early in the morn ♪
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♪ The eyes of Texas
are upon you ♪
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♪ Till Gabriel blows
his horn... ♪
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Hey!
Thank you.
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( singing and cheering
continue )
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Watch broken, Jack?
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- Timing it.
- Timing what?
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The applause.
He'll ask.
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♪ The eyes of Texas
are upon you ♪
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♪ Till Gabriel blows
his horn. ♪
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Johnson on TV:
In a land of great wealth,
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families must not live
in hopeless poverty.
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In a land
rich in harvest,
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children just must not
go hungry.
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In a land
of healing miracles,
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neighbors must not suffer
and die unattended.
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In a great land of learning
and scholars,
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young people must be taught
to read and write.
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Dirksen:
A bit more volume,
please, Mr. President?
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I want to hear
every brilliant word
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that Dick Goodwin wrote
for your marvelous speech.
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Goodwin? Who told you
Goodwin wrote that speech?
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A dozen people work
on my speeches.
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Nobody more than I do.
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Why, Jack here's
been writing
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some of my best stuff
for seven years.
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My penance for marrying away
his last secretary,
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but thank you
for the credit,
Mr. President.
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- Good night, Jack.
- Good night, Mr. President.
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- Good night, Senator.
- Good night, Jack.
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Johnson on TV:
...with the resources
I have had,
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I have vigilantly
fought against it.
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- Goodwin wrote
maybe a word or two.
- Mm-hmm.
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"Great" being one,
"Society" the other?
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- Smart son of a bitch
got that out of a book.
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Now, listen to me, Ev.
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And listen well.
You're a good friend.
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I don't want to see you
retire prematurely.
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But as this reception
plainly shows you,
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the American people
ain't gonna stand
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for you fellas
on the other side
of the aisle
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dragging your feet
on any of my programs.
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Now, FDR passed
a handful of bills
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in his first
hundred days.
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I'm gonna pass
a bucketful--
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poverty, education,
health care.
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And I'm gonna
finish what I started
on civil rights, too.
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I'm telling you,
Jim Crow put a collar
on more smart men
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sure as they were sentenced
to an Illinois chain gang.
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Whoa, whoa, whoa.
I take offense, sir.
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We are most humane
to our condemned.
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The Great Society
is my beautiful woman, Ev,
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and I'm taking her
by the arm.
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And as the greatest
Republican leader
of this century,
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Everett Dirksen is gonna
take her by the other
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and help me escort
that lady home.
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Yes.
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And knowing
what is likely thence
to ensue, Mr. President,
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that is where I shall
take my leave.
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Lyndon?
I apologize
for interrupting.
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I thought perhaps you'd
like some sandwiches
from the kitchen.
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Mrs. Johnson,
my most abject apology.
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I have kept your husband
far too long
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on this most festive
occasion.
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No.
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Mr. President,
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a heartfelt
congratulations, sir.
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Adieu.
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- Good night.
- Good night.
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Johnson on TV:
If we fail now,
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then we will have
forgotten in abundance
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- what we learned
in hardship.
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Democracy rests
on faith,
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freedom asks more
than it gives,
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and the judgment
of God...
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It was a wonderful
speech.
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Full of such hope
and promise.
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Dick Goodwin asked
what I thought,
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and I told him
it was a magnificent job.
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And you delivered it
so very well.
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- Thank you, honey.
- Yes, you did.
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Thank you.
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9:00 p.m. unless
you hear from me.
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- Morning. How are you?
- How are you, sir?
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- Is that for me?
Thank you.
- Yes, sir.
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- Good morning.
- Good morning.
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Morning.
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Good morning,
Mr. Secretary.
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What have we got here?
A crisis in every capital?
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Uh, just one.
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- This is one cable?
- Not quite.
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Here's the rest of it.
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McNamara:
The situation in Vietnam
is continuing to deteriorate.
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We've been able to keep
the noise level down
since your campaign,
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but my guess is you'll be faced
with a tough decision soon.
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How soon?
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There are 19 million
older folks who can't
see a doctor.
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33 million
under the poverty line.
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I can't have
Congress distracted.
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Now, how soon, Bob?
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Very soon,
Mr. President.
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I hate to have
to report this to you,
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but Max Taylor says here
that Vietcong enlistment
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is increasing rapidly
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and that Saigon
can't continue much longer
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to provide security
for our advisors down there
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and fight an insurgency
at the same time.
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Why not? How many men
does South Vietnam have
out there fighting?
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200,000.
VC have about 34,000.
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Well, how the hell
can 34,000 lick 200,000?
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Well, historically,
a 10:1 ratio minimum
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is required for
a guerilla situation,
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and there's no way
that South Vietnam can
achieve that on their own.
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Now, we've kept
our powder dry
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through the elections
and the holidays,
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waiting for
some stability
in the south,
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waiting for the cycle
of coups to end,
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during which we've had
five killed in the attack
at Bien Hoa,
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two at our Saigon
officers quarters,
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and scores wounded
with no retaliation
from us whatsoever.
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Now, Wheeler,
the other chiefs,
Westmoreland,
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are fit to be tied,
as you know,
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and now this
from Ambassador Taylor.
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You might send
Mac Bundy to Saigon,
have a talk with him.
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I'd make
another trip myself,
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but I'm in the middle
of the defense budget
right now.
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I don't want to see
the word "Vietnam"
in that damn budget.
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Well...
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you know I'd do that
if I could.
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In fact, it's becoming
increasingly difficult
to conceal--
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Bob, all I want
to know is this.
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What's it gonna take
to get Ho Chi Minh to quit?
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That's all I want to know.
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Mr. President,
it's clear to me now
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that the answer is sustained
military action in the air.
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And if that doesn't work,
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on the ground.
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This is the decision
you are going to have
to face, Mr. President,
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and as I said,
very soon, I'm afraid.
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Keep me
up to date, Bob.
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- Turn that thing off.
- Yes, sir.
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This Medicare speech
is shit.
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Cut out the gobbledygook
and sex it up.
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Maybe Goodwin ought
to take a crack at it.
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Goodwin's got three months
of assignments.
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Oh, I just put the last of those
on your desk, Mr. President.
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I'd be glad to look it over
if you'd like me to.
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All right.
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Put the music
to it, Dick.
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Jack, I want you
to tell him
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to stop taking credit
for every goddamn word I say.
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- Absolutely,
Mr. President.
- All right.
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Come on, dog.
Up you go.
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- Schedule me a haircut.
- Surely.
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And see if you can get
Clark Clifford here for dinner.
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Lady Bird:
Converting from Protestant
to Catholic is a big step.
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Actually, Lyndon took it
better than I did.
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I was quite surprised.
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Well, both you and Daddy
changed your religions.
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From one Protestant
denomination to another.
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It was a matter
of convenience
and schooling.
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Well, I don't
think religion should be
a matter of convenience.
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And this is
a private matter, Luci.
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You're finishing up
at Texas, aren't you,
Lynda?
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- Next year, ma'am.
- She's dating George Hamilton,
you know?
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- The actor?
- Yeah.
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- With the tan?
- And your sister may consider
that a private matter, too.
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- Oh, Mother,
you must be joking.
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Come on now, damn it.
What's the reason this time?
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I don't have
the qualifications
to be CIA director.
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I decide
the qualifications.
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You had all the qualifications
to be attorney general,
didn't you?
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To succeed Bobby Kennedy.
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Yeah, and here I am
stuck with a friend
of his-- Katzenbach.
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- He's excellent.
- Aw, well, look.
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All right, you told me your
interest was foreign affairs.
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Well, that's where I need
your help-- foreign affairs.
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What is CIA
but foreign affairs?
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I think my skills
would better serve you
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in foreign policy,
Mr. President,
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not foreign intrigue.
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I hear you billed
a million dollars last year.
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First lawyer
in the country
to do that.
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- True?
- Well, that's what
5% came to.
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Well, hell, then you can
afford to take a hiatus
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from all
this moneymaking,
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come serve
your president.
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I don't think you need
an attorney, old friend,
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I think you need
a magician.
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- Magician?
- Yeah.
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Someone who can
make a small corner
of Southeast Asia disappear.
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President Kennedy
did not lose South Vietnam
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and I'm not gonna
lose South Vietnam.
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I kept
all these people on.
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They assured me
he was determined
to stick it out.
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Now, that little
son of a bitch Bobby's
just hovering to swoop down
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and reclaim the mantle
if I fail.
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He'll hang me
from my left ball,
245
00:15:49,667 --> 00:15:51,533
Goldwater'll hang me
from my right.
246
00:15:51,600 --> 00:15:54,400
That is complete nonsense.
247
00:15:54,467 --> 00:15:57,300
You humiliated Goldwater
in the election.
248
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The entire right wing
is in disarray.
249
00:15:59,266 --> 00:16:02,467
Bobby is a freshman senator
with no record.
250
00:16:02,533 --> 00:16:04,166
His brother was a no-record
senator, too, wasn't he?
251
00:16:04,233 --> 00:16:08,000
- And he came out of nowhere.
252
00:16:08,066 --> 00:16:09,900
Luci:
Daddy?
253
00:16:09,967 --> 00:16:12,767
Would you like some dessert
or are you on your diet?
254
00:16:12,834 --> 00:16:15,133
Now, you save some for me,
honey, if it's good.
255
00:16:15,200 --> 00:16:16,934
- How about you, Mr. Clifford?
- No, thank you, dear.
256
00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:19,200
No, he's not
getting anything.
257
00:16:24,200 --> 00:16:25,667
Now,
258
00:16:25,734 --> 00:16:30,934
Jack Kennedy put
16,000 advisors in there.
259
00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:31,934
I put in another eight.
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00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:33,834
We've got 24,000 now,
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00:16:33,900 --> 00:16:36,467
teaching them people
how to shoot and fly planes.
262
00:16:36,533 --> 00:16:38,834
We got patrols
and covert operations.
263
00:16:38,900 --> 00:16:40,567
We got an alphabet soup
of aid programs,
264
00:16:40,633 --> 00:16:43,266
a lot of which I'd like
to have right here.
265
00:16:43,333 --> 00:16:46,667
And none of it's working
because of all this coup shit.
266
00:16:46,734 --> 00:16:48,800
It's like building bricks
with no mortar down there.
267
00:16:48,867 --> 00:16:51,900
There's nothing real
to hang it on.
268
00:16:51,967 --> 00:16:53,767
Now, Ho Chi Minh
knows this,
269
00:16:53,834 --> 00:16:57,333
and he's gonna keep
his people attacking
till there's nothing left.
270
00:16:57,400 --> 00:17:00,133
Now, if we call it quits
and continue as we are,
271
00:17:00,200 --> 00:17:03,667
South Vietnam, maybe
the whole of Southeast Asia,
goes Communist.
272
00:17:03,734 --> 00:17:06,967
Now, even George Ball
admits that.
273
00:17:07,033 --> 00:17:09,166
Everybody else thinks
we ought to up the ante.
274
00:17:09,233 --> 00:17:11,433
Bombing?
275
00:17:14,166 --> 00:17:16,300
Look at this.
276
00:17:20,400 --> 00:17:23,266
Bunch of sheds
just outside Hanoi.
277
00:17:23,333 --> 00:17:26,066
And they call that
a military target?
278
00:17:26,133 --> 00:17:27,767
There's a school
right up the street.
279
00:17:27,834 --> 00:17:29,100
Poles built it for 'em.
280
00:17:29,166 --> 00:17:32,934
Hell, Clark,
I could build them
a thousand damn schools.
281
00:17:34,633 --> 00:17:39,000
I'd like you to start
to follow the situation
down there.
282
00:17:39,066 --> 00:17:41,266
Read some of these reports
they keep throwing at me.
283
00:17:41,333 --> 00:17:43,867
I just don't know
what to believe anymore.
284
00:17:43,934 --> 00:17:45,567
Biggest damn mess.
285
00:17:45,633 --> 00:17:49,800
You'd be on the outside.
You could take a fresh look.
286
00:17:49,867 --> 00:17:51,533
I'll do everything
I can to help.
287
00:17:51,600 --> 00:17:54,400
Yeah, except
come work for me.
288
00:17:54,467 --> 00:17:56,066
Hey, what about
the Supreme Court?
289
00:17:56,133 --> 00:17:57,367
What if a seat
opens up?
290
00:17:57,433 --> 00:17:59,367
I'm an advocate.
I'm not a judge.
291
00:17:59,433 --> 00:18:03,233
Hell, Clark,
you're a hick lawyer
from Missouri.
292
00:18:03,300 --> 00:18:05,734
Well, I may be
a hick lawyer
from Missouri,
293
00:18:05,800 --> 00:18:07,300
but as you yourself
pointed out,
294
00:18:07,367 --> 00:18:11,834
I haven't made Missouri wages
for a long, long time.
295
00:18:11,900 --> 00:18:16,500
You know, I ran
saying I was for peace.
296
00:18:16,567 --> 00:18:19,734
Now, sure as hell
they're telling me
I gotta do
297
00:18:19,800 --> 00:18:22,033
what I said
I wasn't gonna do,
298
00:18:22,100 --> 00:18:24,700
what Goldwater
was gonna do.
299
00:18:33,567 --> 00:18:36,567
Luci's converting
to Catholicism.
300
00:18:36,633 --> 00:18:38,433
Big decision
for a young girl.
301
00:18:38,500 --> 00:18:40,000
He told me.
302
00:18:40,066 --> 00:18:42,266
He said when the press
gets hold of it,
303
00:18:42,333 --> 00:18:45,567
they'll make it
sound as if she did it
as a tribute to the Kennedys.
304
00:18:45,633 --> 00:18:47,600
Oh.
305
00:18:47,667 --> 00:18:51,533
I swear, I think
he was only half joking.
306
00:18:56,600 --> 00:18:58,500
Clark?
307
00:18:58,567 --> 00:19:00,367
Oh.
308
00:19:17,333 --> 00:19:18,700
Hello?
309
00:19:18,767 --> 00:19:21,200
I'm sorry,
he's asleep.
310
00:19:21,266 --> 00:19:22,467
He's just gotten
over pneumonia.
311
00:19:22,533 --> 00:19:25,100
I'd rather not wake him.
312
00:19:25,166 --> 00:19:26,800
I-- I know.
313
00:19:26,867 --> 00:19:29,967
- Is it possible--
- Marg?
314
00:19:33,367 --> 00:19:36,100
Sorry, Bob.
Must be pretty damn bad
to keep you at home.
315
00:19:36,166 --> 00:19:38,333
Let's just call it
the Hanoi flu.
316
00:19:38,400 --> 00:19:39,533
What the hell's
going on here?
317
00:19:39,600 --> 00:19:42,533
General. II Corps
Headquarters at Pleiku.
318
00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:44,300
Vietcong cut
through the wire.
319
00:19:44,367 --> 00:19:47,700
Blew up our advisors'
barracks, planes, choppers
on the runway.
320
00:19:47,767 --> 00:19:49,700
- In Camp Holloway...
- Casualty report.
321
00:19:49,767 --> 00:19:50,567
...more of the same.
322
00:19:50,633 --> 00:19:52,300
Advisors' compound
next door.
323
00:19:52,367 --> 00:19:55,467
VC got in with mortars
and grenade launchers.
324
00:19:55,533 --> 00:19:57,467
There are eight dead,
120-plus wounded,
325
00:19:57,533 --> 00:19:58,767
six choppers,
one transport destroyed,
326
00:19:58,834 --> 00:20:00,300
other aircraft
severely damaged.
327
00:20:00,367 --> 00:20:02,500
Colonel:
Mr. Secretary?
328
00:20:02,567 --> 00:20:06,467
The National Security
Advisor's in Saigon,
is he not?
329
00:20:06,533 --> 00:20:09,200
Didn't the CIA say
Hanoi would connect
Bundy's visit
330
00:20:09,266 --> 00:20:10,734
with a decision
on bombing?
331
00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:13,734
Vietcong agents
in Saigon government
probably leaked it out.
332
00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:16,133
And knowing this,
knowing this,
333
00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:17,867
look what
they did, Bob.
334
00:20:17,934 --> 00:20:19,633
They blew up
128 people
335
00:20:19,700 --> 00:20:21,300
just to thumb
their noses at us.
336
00:20:21,367 --> 00:20:24,066
Now what the hell
are we gonna do about it?
337
00:20:26,867 --> 00:20:30,266
McNamara: Number 33,
the North Vietnamese
barracks at Dong Hoi
338
00:20:30,333 --> 00:20:32,500
just over the border
in North Vietnam.
339
00:20:32,567 --> 00:20:34,166
About 6,000 troops
based there.
340
00:20:34,233 --> 00:20:36,934
An isolated facility
with minimal civilian
support.
341
00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:38,567
What are our
expected casualties?
342
00:20:38,633 --> 00:20:41,100
3,600 troops,
roughly 40 civilians.
343
00:20:41,166 --> 00:20:42,767
How'd you come up
with these numbers?
344
00:20:42,834 --> 00:20:44,767
Wheeler:
Sir, we take the approach,
345
00:20:44,834 --> 00:20:46,700
look at the blast pattern,
346
00:20:46,767 --> 00:20:49,200
the size of the blast,
demographics.
347
00:20:49,266 --> 00:20:52,934
Mr. President,
it's as sophisticated
an analysis as I've seen,
348
00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:55,400
unprecedented
in aerial warfare.
349
00:20:55,467 --> 00:20:58,467
But Ho Chi Minh's
not gonna turn tail
overnight.
350
00:20:58,533 --> 00:21:01,867
Saigon's gonna
take a shellacking
for anything we do.
351
00:21:01,934 --> 00:21:03,834
And if they go in now,
it'll be like sending in
352
00:21:03,900 --> 00:21:06,300
a widow woman to slap
Jack Dempsey.
353
00:21:06,367 --> 00:21:09,033
Sir, we doubt Hanoi
will slap back.
354
00:21:09,100 --> 00:21:10,567
Didn't MacArthur
say the same thing
355
00:21:10,633 --> 00:21:13,633
when a million Chinese
poured into Korea?
356
00:21:16,133 --> 00:21:18,834
What does State
think of this?
357
00:21:18,900 --> 00:21:22,533
The risk of inaction
means more aggression.
358
00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:23,934
Ambassador Taylor
concurs.
359
00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:26,400
He's meeting with
Saigon's leaders now.
360
00:21:26,467 --> 00:21:28,500
Should be calling
the Situation Room
momentarily.
361
00:21:28,567 --> 00:21:30,133
They'll put him
through to me.
362
00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:31,900
Mr. President,
if I might.
363
00:21:31,967 --> 00:21:35,033
I was in charge
of bombing surveys
during World War II,
364
00:21:35,100 --> 00:21:37,166
and bombing
never wins a war.
365
00:21:37,233 --> 00:21:40,467
Rather than erode
the enemy's will,
it strengthens it.
366
00:21:40,533 --> 00:21:43,633
We've seen this
time and time again--
in the Blitz, Berlin.
367
00:21:43,700 --> 00:21:45,200
The Blitz in Berlin
never would have happened
368
00:21:45,266 --> 00:21:47,533
if we didn't lay down
to Hitler in Munich.
369
00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:49,667
And if we lay down now,
it'll be the same thing
again--
370
00:21:49,734 --> 00:21:52,467
an open invitation
to more of their aggression.
371
00:21:52,533 --> 00:21:55,300
Mr. President,
what we're proposing
with Rolling Thunder
372
00:21:55,367 --> 00:21:58,266
is a strictly limited program
of sustained retaliation,
373
00:21:58,333 --> 00:22:01,667
moving northward
only if Vietcong
activity persists.
374
00:22:01,734 --> 00:22:03,633
But it will persist, Bob.
375
00:22:03,700 --> 00:22:05,200
We'll be bombing their cities
before we know it.
376
00:22:05,266 --> 00:22:08,500
Now, do we expect Russia
to sit still for that?
Or China?
377
00:22:08,567 --> 00:22:11,033
Comparisons with Korea
15 years ago
378
00:22:11,100 --> 00:22:12,967
are flimsy at best,
Mr. President.
379
00:22:13,033 --> 00:22:16,066
Ball:
You are absolutely right.
China has atomic weapons now.
380
00:22:16,133 --> 00:22:17,667
They tested
their first bomb
four months ago.
381
00:22:17,734 --> 00:22:18,867
It was no dud.
382
00:22:18,934 --> 00:22:21,300
We have no idea
what will set them off.
383
00:22:21,367 --> 00:22:23,767
I-I don't understand.
384
00:22:23,834 --> 00:22:25,166
Why is this?
385
00:22:25,233 --> 00:22:27,133
Man:
North Vietnam
has secret treaties
386
00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:29,133
with the Chi-Coms,
Mr. President.
387
00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:32,633
We don't know
what the flash points are
in their intervention.
388
00:22:32,700 --> 00:22:35,433
We can take China out
in 17 minutes.
389
00:22:35,500 --> 00:22:37,300
They'd be crazy
to take us on.
390
00:22:37,367 --> 00:22:42,033
I agree, Bus, but why assume
they're as rational as we are?
391
00:22:42,100 --> 00:22:45,767
Mr. President, 400 Americans
have died in Vietnam.
392
00:22:45,834 --> 00:22:48,533
And now eight more
in these atrocities.
393
00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:51,300
There has to be a response
to this aggression.
394
00:22:51,367 --> 00:22:52,800
Mr. President,
the Air Force
395
00:22:52,867 --> 00:22:56,734
will be launching strikes
from the Da Nang airfield,
396
00:22:56,800 --> 00:22:59,500
and that base will become
a more attractive target
to the Vietcong.
397
00:22:59,567 --> 00:23:02,300
General Westmoreland
is requesting a Hawk
missile battalion.
398
00:23:02,367 --> 00:23:05,367
- Is he asking for troops?
- No, no troops.
399
00:23:05,433 --> 00:23:08,033
Saigon will be responsible
for base defense.
400
00:23:08,100 --> 00:23:11,200
But if the Vietcong activity
intensifies
401
00:23:11,266 --> 00:23:13,266
despite these measures,
they may need some help.
402
00:23:13,333 --> 00:23:15,367
But it will
intensify, Bob.
403
00:23:15,433 --> 00:23:17,400
This is precisely
my point, Mr. President.
404
00:23:19,700 --> 00:23:21,500
- Rusk: Yes?
405
00:23:21,567 --> 00:23:24,500
Woman on intercom:
Mr. Secretary, Saigon.
Ambassador Taylor.
406
00:23:24,567 --> 00:23:25,867
Put him through.
407
00:23:25,934 --> 00:23:29,400
Max, we're all here
with the president.
Go ahead.
408
00:23:29,467 --> 00:23:31,667
Taylor:
Mr. President, gentlemen.
409
00:23:31,734 --> 00:23:35,000
Saigon has agreed
to the commencement
of air strikes.
410
00:23:35,066 --> 00:23:38,100
They say their army's ready
for any counterattack
from the north.
411
00:23:38,166 --> 00:23:40,333
All right, Max.
Thank you.
412
00:23:44,900 --> 00:23:46,967
George...
413
00:23:47,033 --> 00:23:50,166
your concerns are mine
as well, as you know.
414
00:23:50,233 --> 00:23:53,166
But we're nowhere near
the point you suggest.
415
00:23:53,233 --> 00:23:55,000
Now, many here agree
there's a good chance
416
00:23:55,066 --> 00:23:59,133
that Ho Chi Minh will quit
if we start making him pay.
417
00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:02,367
Now, is there anyone here
who does not agree with this?
418
00:24:02,433 --> 00:24:03,967
I'm concerned
about the press.
419
00:24:04,033 --> 00:24:06,066
They're gonna view this
as a change in policy.
420
00:24:06,133 --> 00:24:07,767
There is no change
in policy!
421
00:24:07,834 --> 00:24:10,867
But we haven't struck back
since the Tonkin Gulf affair
six months ago.
422
00:24:10,934 --> 00:24:13,467
That's right.
That's why I asked
Congress for the power.
423
00:24:13,533 --> 00:24:16,000
They gave me the power,
and I'm using it.
424
00:24:16,066 --> 00:24:18,433
But we're taking it slow.
425
00:24:18,500 --> 00:24:21,567
I'm not going to Hanoi.
426
00:24:21,633 --> 00:24:26,400
And I'm signing off
on every target.
427
00:24:26,467 --> 00:24:29,533
You're not gonna
bomb the smallest outhouse
without checking with me.
428
00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:31,033
You understand, General?
429
00:24:31,100 --> 00:24:33,333
We understand,
Mr. President.
430
00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:35,600
All right, Bob.
You better get going.
431
00:24:35,667 --> 00:24:38,800
Now, anything else?
432
00:24:47,533 --> 00:24:51,133
McNamara's voice:
From Robert S. McNamara
to Admiral U.S. Grant Sharp,
433
00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:54,400
Commander
of Pacific Forces,
Honolulu.
434
00:24:54,467 --> 00:24:56,433
This is
an execution order.
435
00:24:56,500 --> 00:25:00,233
During daylight hours,
7 February, 1965,
Saigon time,
436
00:25:00,300 --> 00:25:03,400
conduct the following
coordinated attack:
437
00:25:03,467 --> 00:25:06,633
Number 33,
Dong Hoi barracks.
438
00:25:19,834 --> 00:25:22,567
- Good evening,
Mr. President.
- Planes back?
439
00:25:22,633 --> 00:25:24,734
Carriers weren't on station
when the order went out, sir.
440
00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:26,567
The operation
has been delayed.
441
00:25:26,633 --> 00:25:28,533
- Delayed?
- About 90 minutes, sir.
442
00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:30,233
We should
have word shortly.
443
00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:42,367
Stand at ease.
444
00:26:00,233 --> 00:26:01,834
Well, what happened?
445
00:26:01,900 --> 00:26:03,333
It's monsoon season
there, sir.
446
00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:05,333
Well, are they going
or aren't they going?
447
00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:07,867
You find out what the hell's
going on and you call me!
448
00:26:07,934 --> 00:26:09,467
Get the White House operator
to put you through.
449
00:26:09,533 --> 00:26:12,533
- You want me
to wake you, sir?
- You won't wake me!
450
00:26:20,533 --> 00:26:23,800
- Why are you up?
- Worried for you.
451
00:26:24,967 --> 00:26:28,600
Those planes should've
been back hours ago.
452
00:26:28,667 --> 00:26:29,934
What's that?
453
00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:33,233
It's a letter from a friend,
complaining about junkyards.
454
00:26:35,767 --> 00:26:37,400
She says here,
455
00:26:37,467 --> 00:26:40,533
"They're all up and down
the highway now.
456
00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:43,600
Through Dallas
to San Antone,
Houston"--
457
00:26:43,667 --> 00:26:46,567
Right on the highway,
or away where people
can't see?
458
00:26:46,633 --> 00:26:49,500
No, right along the road,
defiling the countryside
459
00:26:49,567 --> 00:26:52,700
through Waxahachie
and Hillboro
460
00:26:52,767 --> 00:26:55,533
and lovely San Marcos
where you went to school.
461
00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:58,567
Oh, love, don't.
462
00:26:58,633 --> 00:27:00,367
Love.
463
00:27:03,100 --> 00:27:04,700
Yes, Mr. President.
464
00:27:04,767 --> 00:27:07,133
What are you doing about
junkyards on the highways?
465
00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:09,000
- What?
- Junkyards!
466
00:27:09,066 --> 00:27:11,166
Well, I'm sending something
over to your office right now.
467
00:27:11,233 --> 00:27:12,967
You jump in your car
in your jammies,
468
00:27:13,033 --> 00:27:15,133
you might even beat it.
469
00:27:16,066 --> 00:27:18,533
- Yes?
470
00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:21,600
I spoke with Honolulu.
They're cabling now.
471
00:27:21,667 --> 00:27:23,133
Planes are back.
472
00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:25,166
The primary was hit.
473
00:27:25,233 --> 00:27:26,834
All the planes,
they all get back?
474
00:27:26,900 --> 00:27:29,967
No, sir. I'm afraid
we did lose one plane.
475
00:27:31,266 --> 00:27:34,133
- What about the pilot?
- He went down at sea.
476
00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:36,133
Search and rescue
is looking for him now,
477
00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:38,200
but I'm afraid
it's not looking very good.
478
00:27:38,266 --> 00:27:39,734
I'm sorry, sir.
479
00:27:40,834 --> 00:27:42,500
All right.
Thank you, Bob.
480
00:27:42,567 --> 00:27:44,767
Good night,
Mr. President.
481
00:27:44,834 --> 00:27:46,567
Man:
Yes, Mr. President?
482
00:27:48,567 --> 00:27:50,500
Lyndon.
483
00:27:51,567 --> 00:27:54,333
Oh, I'm-- I'm sorry.
484
00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:58,333
Put this
on Moyers' desk.
485
00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:00,000
Yes, sir.
486
00:28:04,900 --> 00:28:06,900
Honey?
487
00:28:06,967 --> 00:28:09,066
We lost a pilot.
488
00:28:10,500 --> 00:28:13,700
Sweetheart.
489
00:28:13,767 --> 00:28:16,700
Oh, sweetheart.
490
00:28:16,767 --> 00:28:19,734
- Oh, I'm so sorry.
- That's all right.
491
00:28:22,967 --> 00:28:27,000
This isn't about
junkyards, is it?
492
00:28:27,066 --> 00:28:28,834
Shit, what time is it?
493
00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:36,066
I told Sandra
I'd be home before 1:00.
494
00:28:38,467 --> 00:28:40,400
She didn't call.
495
00:28:40,467 --> 00:28:42,567
That's not a good sign.
496
00:28:43,934 --> 00:28:46,567
Hmm.
How about you?
497
00:28:46,633 --> 00:28:48,667
You coming or going?
498
00:28:48,734 --> 00:28:50,400
He wants company.
499
00:28:51,867 --> 00:28:55,600
We started bombing
North Vietnam tonight.
500
00:28:55,667 --> 00:28:57,767
Christ.
501
00:28:59,166 --> 00:29:01,367
Are they talking
about combat troops?
502
00:29:01,433 --> 00:29:05,934
No.
Not yet, no.
503
00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:09,867
Christ, I don't know
what to tell the press.
504
00:29:09,934 --> 00:29:12,700
We are backing
into a war here,
for Christ's sake.
505
00:29:12,767 --> 00:29:15,734
And it's a war
he campaigned against.
506
00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:19,900
But now he talks like
he's putting a paddle
to Ho Chi Minh's behind.
507
00:29:19,967 --> 00:29:23,000
Well, Johnson's
a deal-maker.
508
00:29:23,066 --> 00:29:25,033
He's the best politician
this country's ever seen.
509
00:29:25,100 --> 00:29:27,734
He'll find a way
out of this.
510
00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:31,433
Sure. He'll just
get old Uncle Ho
down to the ranch,
511
00:29:31,500 --> 00:29:33,700
serve him up
some tasty barbecue
512
00:29:33,767 --> 00:29:35,233
and then offer him a dam.
513
00:29:35,300 --> 00:29:36,667
Or a federal judgeship.
514
00:29:38,166 --> 00:29:40,600
- Hello, Mr. President. Ahem.
- Good evening, Mr. President.
515
00:29:40,667 --> 00:29:43,567
Congratulations on getting
that education bill
out of committee.
516
00:29:43,633 --> 00:29:45,133
Well, it hasn't
passed yet, has it?
517
00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:46,667
I want all you
up there on the Hill,
518
00:29:46,734 --> 00:29:49,400
day and night,
getting me those yeas.
519
00:29:49,467 --> 00:29:51,834
What is this?
Tapioca pudding?
520
00:29:51,900 --> 00:29:53,567
Yes, sir.
521
00:29:53,633 --> 00:29:54,867
Would you like it?
522
00:29:54,934 --> 00:29:58,133
Ah, now, voting rights.
523
00:29:58,200 --> 00:29:59,533
That's the meat
in the coconut.
524
00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:01,133
Where do we stand?
525
00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:04,600
At last tally,
we are short 50 congressmen.
526
00:30:04,667 --> 00:30:07,433
- But the Senate--
- Start with the House.
Give me their names.
527
00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:11,667
You want me to read
the roll, Mr. President?
528
00:30:11,734 --> 00:30:13,433
All 435?
529
00:30:13,500 --> 00:30:15,700
From Abbitt of Virginia
to Zablocki of Wisconsin.
530
00:30:15,767 --> 00:30:18,333
- Go.
- Uh...
531
00:30:25,166 --> 00:30:27,200
Um...
532
00:30:28,834 --> 00:30:31,300
Abbitt, Virginia, nay.
533
00:30:31,367 --> 00:30:33,667
Abernethy,
Mississippi, nay.
534
00:30:33,734 --> 00:30:36,533
Where do you think
you're going?
535
00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:38,266
Home.
536
00:30:38,333 --> 00:30:41,166
The hell you are.
You're gonna relieve him
when he gives out.
537
00:30:43,734 --> 00:30:46,300
Adair, Indiana, nay.
538
00:30:46,367 --> 00:30:48,233
Adams, Washington, yea.
539
00:30:48,300 --> 00:30:50,133
Addabbo, New York, yea.
540
00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:52,266
Albert, Oklahoma, yea.
541
00:30:52,333 --> 00:30:54,367
Boys, it doesn't
look like
542
00:30:54,433 --> 00:30:56,533
we're gonna be able to get
voting rights through.
543
00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:58,300
- Not this session.
544
00:30:58,367 --> 00:31:01,533
Well, I must say,
I don't understand,
Mr. President.
545
00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:04,500
Only a month ago in your
State of the Union message,
you made it perfect--
546
00:31:04,567 --> 00:31:08,100
Johnson:
Reverend King,
I have been to the well,
547
00:31:08,166 --> 00:31:11,000
and the well
has provided.
548
00:31:11,066 --> 00:31:12,834
I got the votes
on Medicare,
549
00:31:12,900 --> 00:31:14,333
aid to education--
550
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:17,100
all these benefit the poor
and disenfranchised,
551
00:31:17,166 --> 00:31:19,433
and you know who that is.
552
00:31:19,500 --> 00:31:21,000
Please don't misunderstand.
553
00:31:21,066 --> 00:31:22,600
We're very grateful,
Mr. President.
554
00:31:22,667 --> 00:31:24,533
Attorney General Katzenbach
here has written
555
00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:26,834
a beautiful piece
of legislation.
556
00:31:26,900 --> 00:31:30,767
You think I wanna
carry that around
in my ass pocket?
557
00:31:30,834 --> 00:31:32,967
You see, it's this--
558
00:31:33,033 --> 00:31:36,667
this problem I got
in Southeast Asia,
559
00:31:36,734 --> 00:31:38,000
the Vietnamese.
560
00:31:38,066 --> 00:31:39,433
To them Southerners
up on the Hill,
561
00:31:39,500 --> 00:31:41,867
what are they
but another bunch
of colored people?
562
00:31:41,934 --> 00:31:47,100
And I go up there
crawling for more aid,
as I must for Vietnam.
563
00:31:47,166 --> 00:31:49,533
"Mr. President,"
old Wilbur Mills will say,
564
00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:51,300
"you're gonna have
to raise taxes,
565
00:31:51,367 --> 00:31:52,967
declare war,
call up the reserves.
566
00:31:53,033 --> 00:31:56,700
And by the way,
that's gonna cost you
your War on Poverty,
567
00:31:56,767 --> 00:31:59,266
your voting rights
for Negroes."
568
00:31:59,333 --> 00:32:02,166
Just like World War II
killed the New Deal,
569
00:32:02,233 --> 00:32:06,133
well, there ain't
gonna be World War III,
I promise you.
570
00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:09,433
I'm gonna nip this
in the bud. I am.
571
00:32:09,500 --> 00:32:10,800
And as soon as I do,
572
00:32:10,867 --> 00:32:14,400
I'll send that bill up
and more, I promise you.
573
00:32:14,467 --> 00:32:17,800
There will be no delay.
574
00:32:18,900 --> 00:32:20,734
Well, Mr. President,
575
00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:23,166
we're going to be
down in Selma,
576
00:32:23,233 --> 00:32:25,533
marching for the vote,
577
00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:27,300
and we expect
you'll take notice
578
00:32:27,367 --> 00:32:29,934
as to what we do
down there.
579
00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:32,333
Man on TV:
During preparations
for Martin Luther King's
580
00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:34,367
second attempt to march
to Montgomery,
581
00:32:34,433 --> 00:32:36,967
four white men beat to death
a Boston clergyman,
582
00:32:37,033 --> 00:32:39,500
one of the 1,500 marchers.
583
00:32:39,567 --> 00:32:41,233
The slain reverend,
James Reeb,
584
00:32:41,300 --> 00:32:43,734
had come to Selma
in solidarity with Negroes
585
00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:45,967
attempting to register
to vote.
586
00:32:46,033 --> 00:32:47,533
- Uh-huh.
- Amidst growing concern
about increasing
587
00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:49,500
racial violence
in Alabama,
588
00:32:49,567 --> 00:32:51,967
Governor George Wallace
is reportedly preparing a trip
589
00:32:52,033 --> 00:32:54,834
to Washington, DC,
to see the president.
590
00:32:54,900 --> 00:32:59,200
Meanwhile, demonstrations
continue in front of
the White House.
591
00:32:59,266 --> 00:33:01,767
Protestors:
We demand justice!
592
00:33:01,834 --> 00:33:03,567
Call them off!
593
00:33:03,633 --> 00:33:05,133
Well, we didn't
organize it, Mr. President.
594
00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:06,767
Call them off!
Get out there, both of you!
595
00:33:06,834 --> 00:33:08,400
Call them off!
596
00:33:09,767 --> 00:33:12,700
- Daddy?
- Why are you up?
597
00:33:12,767 --> 00:33:15,033
Those goddamn agitators
wake you?
598
00:33:15,100 --> 00:33:16,967
No, I heard you yelling.
599
00:33:17,033 --> 00:33:18,367
Oh, sorry, honey.
600
00:33:18,433 --> 00:33:20,767
King on TV:
...how it can't be done.
601
00:33:20,834 --> 00:33:23,266
It's still strange
to us, though,
602
00:33:23,333 --> 00:33:26,200
how millions of dollars
can be spent every day
603
00:33:26,266 --> 00:33:28,867
to hold troops
in South Vietnam,
604
00:33:28,934 --> 00:33:32,000
and our country cannot protect
the rights of Negroes
605
00:33:32,066 --> 00:33:35,200
in Selma and Marion,
Alabama.
606
00:33:35,266 --> 00:33:37,266
He's outrageous!
607
00:33:37,333 --> 00:33:39,934
Now, now, now!
Everything's gotta be now!
608
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:44,467
What, they want
the whole goddamn world
with a fence around it?
609
00:33:44,533 --> 00:33:46,433
I just gave
standby authorization
610
00:33:46,500 --> 00:33:47,834
to federalize
the Alabama Guard.
611
00:33:47,900 --> 00:33:49,166
We just need your order.
612
00:33:49,233 --> 00:33:50,667
You have to do it,
Mr. President.
613
00:33:50,734 --> 00:33:52,200
Wallace won't protect
those marchers.
614
00:33:52,266 --> 00:33:54,000
You want me
to send troops
into Alabama?
615
00:33:54,066 --> 00:33:55,800
Lose Stennis,
Dirksen, Russell,
616
00:33:55,867 --> 00:33:58,934
every conservative vote
I got hanging on a thread
of spittle?
617
00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:01,233
It'll be Reconstruction
all over again.
618
00:34:01,300 --> 00:34:06,133
Your friend Bobby Kennedy
could have given me
that advice!
619
00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:09,600
Wallace on TV:
Martin Luther King and
his group of pro-Communists
620
00:34:09,667 --> 00:34:11,834
have instigated
these demonstrations
621
00:34:11,900 --> 00:34:15,300
by lawless nigger mobs
in Birmingham.
622
00:34:15,367 --> 00:34:18,133
But the law-abiding citizens
of both races there
623
00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:21,133
are fed up
with this rioting
and disruption
624
00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:23,633
led by
so-called clergymen
625
00:34:23,700 --> 00:34:26,133
and their
Communist-inspired
followers!
626
00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:30,200
I am therefore sending
250 state troopers
into that city,
627
00:34:30,266 --> 00:34:34,400
supported by
500 other law officers
of this state.
628
00:34:34,467 --> 00:34:36,834
I will meet our enemies
face-to-face.
629
00:34:36,900 --> 00:34:38,433
I will not surrender!
630
00:34:39,700 --> 00:34:41,367
Mr. President, Wallace
is only coming up here
631
00:34:41,433 --> 00:34:42,500
in order to placate you.
632
00:34:42,567 --> 00:34:44,433
He wants things to get
so bad down there
633
00:34:44,500 --> 00:34:46,200
that you have
to put the troops in.
634
00:34:46,266 --> 00:34:48,300
Then he'll lambaste you
for invading his
sovereign state,
635
00:34:48,367 --> 00:34:49,567
and that's how
he'll save himself.
636
00:34:49,633 --> 00:34:52,934
Goddamn runty
little bastard!
637
00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:55,266
I want his pecker
in my pocket.
638
00:34:55,333 --> 00:34:59,200
The thing we have to do--
we have to get him to ask
for the troops,
639
00:34:59,266 --> 00:35:01,233
to say he wants rights,
he wants peace,
640
00:35:01,300 --> 00:35:03,233
but he just can't control
his own people.
641
00:35:03,300 --> 00:35:04,934
Make it his failure.
That's what we have to do.
642
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:07,200
Man on TV:
In an interview today,
Governor Wallace denies
643
00:35:07,266 --> 00:35:11,433
that Alabama state troopers
and sheriff's deputies
used unnecessary force
644
00:35:11,500 --> 00:35:13,900
in routing Negro marchers
in Selma.
645
00:35:13,967 --> 00:35:15,934
Johnson:
Call the speaker.
646
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:18,500
Tell him I want
to address Congress
647
00:35:18,567 --> 00:35:20,767
on television.
648
00:35:20,834 --> 00:35:24,400
That goddamn bill
is going up now.
649
00:35:24,467 --> 00:35:26,700
- Man: One more,
Governor Wallace.
650
00:35:27,700 --> 00:35:30,000
A little closer.
651
00:35:30,066 --> 00:35:32,100
- Thank you.
652
00:35:32,166 --> 00:35:34,333
All right, thank you.
Sit down, Governor.
653
00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:36,333
Over here.
That's it.
654
00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:38,266
Over there-- whoa,
right in the corner.
655
00:35:38,333 --> 00:35:40,567
The corner, Governor.
That's it.
656
00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:44,500
Now, Governor,
you wanted to see me?
657
00:35:44,567 --> 00:35:46,233
Uh, yes,
Mr. President.
658
00:35:46,300 --> 00:35:48,433
I want to thank you
for agreeing to see me--
659
00:35:48,500 --> 00:35:50,567
- Goddamn demonstrators!
660
00:35:50,633 --> 00:35:53,200
Keeping Lady Bird up,
disturbing my daughters' rest.
661
00:35:53,266 --> 00:35:55,200
Turn that thing off!
662
00:35:55,266 --> 00:35:57,400
Subversives, most of em.
663
00:35:57,467 --> 00:35:59,800
- Communist Party's
behind the whole thing.
- You know what I'd do?
664
00:35:59,867 --> 00:36:01,400
I'd send some of them
Secret Service boys
665
00:36:01,467 --> 00:36:02,900
out there
with itching powder.
666
00:36:02,967 --> 00:36:05,066
Ha! Sprinkle it on the back
of some of their necks.
667
00:36:05,133 --> 00:36:06,834
They'd drop them signs
they're carrying,
668
00:36:06,900 --> 00:36:08,433
scratch themselves raw.
669
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:11,934
That's a great idea.
670
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:13,967
I'm gonna get
my people on that.
671
00:36:14,033 --> 00:36:16,567
Better than that, Governor,
we ought to go out there.
672
00:36:16,633 --> 00:36:18,300
We got all of those
television cameras.
673
00:36:18,367 --> 00:36:20,600
You see those
television cameras
they've got out there?
674
00:36:20,667 --> 00:36:22,000
Yes, sir.
675
00:36:22,066 --> 00:36:24,600
Why don't we go out there
and we turn them
cameras around,
676
00:36:24,667 --> 00:36:26,033
and we'll announce
that you decided
677
00:36:26,100 --> 00:36:28,500
to register every Negro
in Alabama?
678
00:36:30,133 --> 00:36:31,533
Mr. President,
as much as I'd--
679
00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:33,333
Nick, give me one of them
there Constitutions.
680
00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:34,533
Yes, sir.
681
00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:36,934
Nick's got
the Constitutions.
682
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:39,367
Hey, thank you, Nick.
683
00:36:39,433 --> 00:36:41,467
Now, Governor,
684
00:36:41,533 --> 00:36:44,166
I'm sure that
somewhere in here
685
00:36:44,233 --> 00:36:47,166
it says that Negroes
have the right to vote.
686
00:36:48,100 --> 00:36:50,133
Uh, yes, Mr. President,
687
00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:53,467
and-- and they have
the right to vote
in Alabama.
688
00:36:53,533 --> 00:36:56,100
But it's the county
registrars.
689
00:36:56,166 --> 00:36:58,500
They-- they--
under Alabama law,
690
00:36:58,567 --> 00:37:01,133
they independent,
and I don't have the power.
691
00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:02,834
George.
692
00:37:02,900 --> 00:37:07,700
Now don't you shit me
about who's got the power
in Alabama.
693
00:37:08,967 --> 00:37:11,467
- Well, Mr. President--
- Now come on, Governor.
694
00:37:11,533 --> 00:37:13,133
You're a persuasive man.
695
00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:16,467
Hell, I was watching
you this morning on
all three networks.
696
00:37:16,533 --> 00:37:18,133
You were attacking me.
697
00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:20,066
I wasn't attacking you,
Mr. President.
698
00:37:20,133 --> 00:37:23,166
- I was attacking the idea--
- Idea. Hell, you were
attacking me, George.
699
00:37:23,233 --> 00:37:27,500
And I'll tell ya,
you're so damn persuasive,
I nearly changed my mind.
700
00:37:29,467 --> 00:37:32,400
You have marvelous
powers of persuasion,
701
00:37:32,467 --> 00:37:35,033
don't you, Governor?
702
00:37:35,100 --> 00:37:37,266
Governor Wallace,
703
00:37:37,333 --> 00:37:39,433
you and I shouldn't
be sitting here
704
00:37:39,500 --> 00:37:42,333
thinking about 1965.
705
00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:45,033
We ought to be
thinking about 1995,
706
00:37:45,100 --> 00:37:47,934
when you and I will be
long in our graves.
707
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:50,300
Now, you've got
a lot of poor people
down there in Alabama,
708
00:37:50,367 --> 00:37:51,633
a lot of ignorant people.
709
00:37:51,700 --> 00:37:54,533
People who need jobs,
people who need a future.
710
00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:57,033
You can do a lot for 'em.
711
00:37:57,100 --> 00:38:00,867
In 1995, Governor,
what do you want left behind?
712
00:38:00,934 --> 00:38:03,700
You want a great big
marble monument saying
713
00:38:03,767 --> 00:38:05,734
"George Wallace,
he built,
714
00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:08,233
he protected
the weak, the poor,
715
00:38:08,300 --> 00:38:12,333
the impoverished people
of this great state"?
716
00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:15,166
Or do you want
a little piece
of scrawny pine
717
00:38:15,233 --> 00:38:20,266
laying there in the harsh,
caliche soil saying
718
00:38:20,333 --> 00:38:24,867
"George Wallace,
he hated"?
719
00:38:32,033 --> 00:38:34,400
I'm sorry, Governor.
720
00:38:34,467 --> 00:38:37,000
I interrupted you.
721
00:38:37,066 --> 00:38:38,900
Now, you wanted
to tell me something?
722
00:38:41,934 --> 00:38:45,700
Mr. President,
I, uh--
723
00:38:45,767 --> 00:38:50,633
I've had the opportunity
to reevaluate.
724
00:38:52,767 --> 00:38:56,000
And, uh, I think that...
725
00:38:57,367 --> 00:39:00,066
I just may not be able
to get things under control
726
00:39:00,133 --> 00:39:04,767
without some...
assistance.
727
00:39:04,834 --> 00:39:08,266
Governor, I'll give you
any assistance
728
00:39:08,333 --> 00:39:10,400
that's mine to provide.
729
00:39:10,467 --> 00:39:14,633
Now, what specific measures
would you suggest?
730
00:39:14,700 --> 00:39:17,533
The president and I
have spoken,
731
00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:22,734
and I have assured him
that I abhor brutality.
732
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:25,500
And in my eternal commitment
to law and order,
733
00:39:25,567 --> 00:39:28,800
I will do
whatever it takes
734
00:39:28,867 --> 00:39:31,600
to maintain the peace.
735
00:39:39,767 --> 00:39:42,300
Man:
Mr. Speaker,
736
00:39:42,367 --> 00:39:45,767
the President
of the United States!
737
00:40:31,033 --> 00:40:36,066
I speak tonight
for the dignity of men
738
00:40:36,133 --> 00:40:38,567
and the destiny
of democracy.
739
00:40:40,233 --> 00:40:43,633
There is no Negro problem.
740
00:40:43,700 --> 00:40:46,600
There is
no southern problem.
741
00:40:46,667 --> 00:40:50,700
There is no
northern problem.
742
00:40:50,767 --> 00:40:54,000
There is only
an American problem.
743
00:41:01,166 --> 00:41:03,567
There is no cause for pride
744
00:41:03,633 --> 00:41:05,967
in what has happened
in Selma.
745
00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:09,266
The cries of pain
746
00:41:09,333 --> 00:41:13,133
and the hymns and protests
of oppressed people
747
00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:15,367
have summoned
into convocation
748
00:41:15,433 --> 00:41:18,500
all the majesty
of this great government.
749
00:41:18,567 --> 00:41:23,133
Our mission
is at once the oldest
750
00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:27,300
and most basic
of this country--
751
00:41:27,367 --> 00:41:31,567
to right wrong,
to do justice,
752
00:41:31,633 --> 00:41:33,834
to serve man.
753
00:41:46,033 --> 00:41:50,233
This Wednesday,
I will send you a law
754
00:41:50,300 --> 00:41:53,533
which will eliminate
illegal barriers
755
00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:56,834
to the most basic
American right--
756
00:41:56,900 --> 00:42:00,266
the right to vote.
757
00:42:00,333 --> 00:42:02,934
Many of the issues
of civil rights
758
00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:06,667
are very complex
and most difficult.
759
00:42:06,734 --> 00:42:10,700
About this, there can
and should be no argument,
760
00:42:10,767 --> 00:42:13,567
for outside this chamber
761
00:42:13,633 --> 00:42:17,500
is the outraged conscience
of a nation
762
00:42:17,567 --> 00:42:20,767
and the harsh judgment
of history.
763
00:42:20,834 --> 00:42:23,567
The cause
of the American Negro
764
00:42:23,633 --> 00:42:25,667
to secure for himself
765
00:42:25,734 --> 00:42:28,533
the full blessings
of American life
766
00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:31,467
must be our cause.
767
00:42:39,500 --> 00:42:42,000
Because, really,
768
00:42:42,066 --> 00:42:46,467
it is all of us
who must overcome
769
00:42:46,533 --> 00:42:52,300
the crippling legacy
of bigotry and injustice.
770
00:42:52,367 --> 00:42:55,533
And we shall overcome.
771
00:43:44,700 --> 00:43:47,667
Dick, 93 million on TV.
It's a record.
772
00:43:47,734 --> 00:43:49,734
- Congratulations, Dick.
- Thanks.
773
00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:51,567
Johnson:
Hey, Dick! Dick!
Oh, come over here.
774
00:43:51,633 --> 00:43:53,033
Switchboard is jammed.
775
00:43:53,100 --> 00:43:55,500
Haven't had this many calls
since the Cuban Missile Crisis.
776
00:43:55,567 --> 00:43:57,633
Huh, good to know
they don't only call
to complain.
777
00:43:57,700 --> 00:44:00,100
- Hey, Dick, sit down,
sit down.
778
00:44:00,166 --> 00:44:01,633
That was
old Dick Russell.
779
00:44:01,700 --> 00:44:03,834
Says I'm a low-down cur
and a turncoat,
780
00:44:03,900 --> 00:44:05,867
but he wants me to know
that's the best speech
781
00:44:05,934 --> 00:44:07,700
he ever saw
any president give,
782
00:44:07,767 --> 00:44:09,934
and that goes back
to Lincoln!
783
00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:11,367
Mr. President,
Dr. King.
784
00:44:11,433 --> 00:44:13,767
Oh, Dr.--
oh, Reverend King.
785
00:44:13,834 --> 00:44:16,066
That's kind of you
to call.
786
00:44:16,133 --> 00:44:17,767
Did you know
I was on TV tonight?
787
00:44:19,567 --> 00:44:22,033
Oh. Oh, you saw it.
Yeah, mm-hmm.
788
00:44:22,100 --> 00:44:24,700
Okay, good.
All right.
789
00:44:24,767 --> 00:44:27,367
All right.
Yeah. Bye.
790
00:44:27,433 --> 00:44:29,133
You've got Arthur Krim
on line three, sir.
791
00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:30,667
Oh, no, no.
Not-- no, I can't--
792
00:44:30,734 --> 00:44:32,934
- No, no. No.
- Sir.
793
00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:35,567
You know, boys,
794
00:44:35,633 --> 00:44:38,033
I'm reminded tonight
795
00:44:38,100 --> 00:44:40,367
of Texas Hill Country
in the spring.
796
00:44:40,433 --> 00:44:42,767
Oh, Lyndon, your guests
are far too weary
797
00:44:42,834 --> 00:44:44,433
to appreciate
your poetry.
798
00:44:44,500 --> 00:44:47,266
Now let me tell you boys
about the Hill Country
in the spring.
799
00:44:47,333 --> 00:44:50,767
- ( chuckles ) Good night!
- You see-- oh, no.
800
00:44:50,834 --> 00:44:53,400
- Good night, all.
- Good night, Mrs. Johnson.
801
00:44:53,467 --> 00:44:55,900
- Good night. Luci.
- Now, in the spring--
802
00:44:55,967 --> 00:44:59,066
Luci, come with me.
803
00:44:59,133 --> 00:45:01,734
- Good night.
- Good night.
804
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:04,266
- Good night, Mrs. Johnson.
- Good night.
805
00:45:06,433 --> 00:45:08,433
In the spring,
806
00:45:08,500 --> 00:45:10,333
in the Hill Country,
807
00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:14,800
the sun is up earlier
and the ground gets warmer,
808
00:45:14,867 --> 00:45:17,600
and you can see
the steam rising
809
00:45:17,667 --> 00:45:20,000
and the sap dripping.
810
00:45:20,066 --> 00:45:24,467
And in his pen,
there's my prize bull.
811
00:45:24,533 --> 00:45:27,233
Now, he is the biggest...
812
00:45:31,100 --> 00:45:35,300
...best-hung bull
in Hill Country.
813
00:45:35,367 --> 00:45:37,400
Well, in the spring,
814
00:45:37,467 --> 00:45:40,266
that bull gets a hankering
for them cows,
815
00:45:40,333 --> 00:45:42,767
and he starts
pawing the ground
816
00:45:42,834 --> 00:45:44,433
and getting restless.
817
00:45:44,500 --> 00:45:47,133
So I open up the pen,
818
00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:49,300
and he goes
down the hill
819
00:45:49,367 --> 00:45:53,967
with his pecker hanging hard
and swinging.
820
00:45:55,133 --> 00:45:58,900
Well, those cows
get so goddamn excited,
821
00:45:58,967 --> 00:46:03,133
they get more and more moist
to receive him,
822
00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:06,100
and their asses
just start quivering.
823
00:46:07,967 --> 00:46:10,900
They start quivering over--
every one of 'em is quivering!
824
00:46:12,467 --> 00:46:16,400
And as that bull struts
into their pasture-- whoa!
825
00:46:16,467 --> 00:46:20,233
Boys, ha ha, we had 'em
quivering tonight!
826
00:46:28,433 --> 00:46:31,700
Man on TV:
Arriving in naval transports,
United States Marines
827
00:46:31,767 --> 00:46:34,800
storm the beach
in Da Nang, Vietnam,
in full battle gear.
828
00:46:34,867 --> 00:46:37,100
These are the first
U.S. ground troops
829
00:46:37,166 --> 00:46:40,033
to step foot on Asian soil
since the Korean War.
830
00:46:40,100 --> 00:46:42,867
They were greeted by
some lovely local ladies.
831
00:46:42,934 --> 00:46:46,033
The Pentagon says
that their mission
is a defensive one--
832
00:46:46,100 --> 00:46:48,100
to protect the U.S. air base
from enemy attack
833
00:46:48,166 --> 00:46:51,166
so Operation Rolling Thunder
can roll on.
834
00:46:51,233 --> 00:46:54,200
Speaking with reporters,
President Johnson emphasized
835
00:46:54,266 --> 00:46:56,767
that these 3,500 Marines
will free up
836
00:46:56,834 --> 00:46:59,400
the South Vietnamese troops
now guarding the base
837
00:46:59,467 --> 00:47:01,934
to go out
and fight Vietcong.
838
00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:04,934
Reports from the field,
however, indicate that
Saigon forces
839
00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:07,467
may be no match
for full Vietcong regiments.
840
00:47:07,533 --> 00:47:11,066
Recently, in one
of the heaviest attacks
of the war so far,
841
00:47:11,133 --> 00:47:13,700
the Vietcong inflicted
major casualties
842
00:47:13,767 --> 00:47:15,200
in Quang Nam Province.
843
00:47:15,266 --> 00:47:18,600
Unofficial sources say
that many South Vietnamese
army units
844
00:47:18,667 --> 00:47:20,533
are near collapse.
845
00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:23,934
- Oh, my, oh, my.
846
00:47:26,266 --> 00:47:28,266
- Mr. President.
- Mr. President.
847
00:47:28,333 --> 00:47:30,166
No, no, sit down.
Sit down, boys.
848
00:47:30,233 --> 00:47:33,734
I heard you fellas
were talking over dinner.
849
00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:36,033
- Can I get you a plate
of food, Mr. President?
- No, thank you.
850
00:47:36,100 --> 00:47:37,834
- A drink?
- No.
851
00:47:42,433 --> 00:47:43,800
Why?
852
00:47:43,867 --> 00:47:46,266
Why do they want
war with us?
853
00:47:46,333 --> 00:47:49,200
To Ho Chi Minh
and the North Vietnamese,
854
00:47:49,266 --> 00:47:52,100
this is just a continuation
of the war with the French
855
00:47:52,166 --> 00:47:54,200
and the Japanese
and the Chinese
856
00:47:54,266 --> 00:47:55,867
a thousand years
before that.
857
00:47:55,934 --> 00:47:57,567
We never should have
allowed the French
858
00:47:57,633 --> 00:47:59,767
to reclaim their
colonies in '45,
859
00:47:59,834 --> 00:48:02,667
but we needed
them allied with us
against the Soviets,
860
00:48:02,734 --> 00:48:05,333
and that was
their price.
861
00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:07,967
Will we end up
like the French?
862
00:48:08,033 --> 00:48:09,333
A great power
cutting and running
863
00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:11,533
from a bunch of little men
in black pajamas,
864
00:48:11,600 --> 00:48:14,767
tucking our tail
in defeat?
865
00:48:14,834 --> 00:48:16,934
France didn't have
the firepower we have.
866
00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:19,800
But the bombing seems
to have no effect.
867
00:48:19,867 --> 00:48:21,367
Well, it appears now
that it won't stop them,
868
00:48:21,433 --> 00:48:23,934
but it has slowed down
their resupply.
869
00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:26,133
Hanoi's starting
to send down large units,
870
00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:29,500
and the more of their men
we can tie up with repairing
roads and bridges,
871
00:48:29,567 --> 00:48:32,567
the fewer they can spare
to fight the south.
872
00:48:34,867 --> 00:48:37,533
What do we have there now?
873
00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:40,467
Well, we've got
the 3rd Marines
at Da Nang,
874
00:48:40,533 --> 00:48:44,200
Phu Bai, Chu Lai,
the 173rd Airborne
at Vung Tau
875
00:48:44,266 --> 00:48:47,066
for base defense and support
of the South Vietnamese units.
876
00:48:47,133 --> 00:48:48,467
13 battalions in all.
877
00:48:48,533 --> 00:48:51,867
Never mind battalions.
How many boys?
878
00:48:51,934 --> 00:48:54,166
51,000 troops,
Mr. President.
879
00:48:54,233 --> 00:48:56,333
And Westmoreland
wants how many?
880
00:49:03,734 --> 00:49:05,700
184,000.
881
00:49:07,033 --> 00:49:08,900
And the authority to launch
offensive operations
882
00:49:08,967 --> 00:49:10,834
under his own command.
883
00:49:14,633 --> 00:49:17,200
The South Vietnamese
are useless, Mr. President.
884
00:49:17,266 --> 00:49:19,066
They've lost four battalions
in the last month.
885
00:49:19,133 --> 00:49:20,867
Desertions
are at record levels.
886
00:49:20,934 --> 00:49:22,333
They're losing,
and they're losing fast.
887
00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:23,700
I know they're losing!
888
00:49:23,767 --> 00:49:26,633
I don't need
a Phi Beta Kappa key
to know they're losing!
889
00:49:26,700 --> 00:49:28,834
Anyone smart enough
to pour piss out of a boot
890
00:49:28,900 --> 00:49:30,600
knows they're losing!
891
00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:40,667
How many casualties
you think we'll take?
892
00:49:44,133 --> 00:49:46,700
We could reach 500 a month
by the end of the year
893
00:49:46,767 --> 00:49:49,600
if Hanoi hasn't quit
by then.
894
00:49:49,667 --> 00:49:52,100
500 a month?
895
00:49:53,533 --> 00:49:55,734
You tell Westmoreland
he's got the authority.
896
00:49:55,800 --> 00:49:57,667
Tell him to get out there
and kill Vietcong.
897
00:49:57,734 --> 00:50:00,200
Do whatever he has to do
to hold them off.
898
00:50:00,266 --> 00:50:01,934
Then you and Wheeler
go and see him
899
00:50:02,000 --> 00:50:05,367
and nail him down
on what he needs to get
this thing over with.
900
00:50:05,433 --> 00:50:08,633
Then damn it,
let's get it over with!
901
00:50:13,700 --> 00:50:15,633
Kid was setting fuses
on the goddamn bridge.
902
00:50:15,700 --> 00:50:17,166
Do you believe it?
903
00:50:17,233 --> 00:50:18,734
I was five minutes away.
904
00:50:18,800 --> 00:50:21,967
And that potshot,
last time I was here,
he missed me by a mile.
905
00:50:22,033 --> 00:50:25,900
Jesus, you'd think they'd put
their best sniper on the job.
906
00:50:25,967 --> 00:50:27,233
I wish I could tell you
907
00:50:27,300 --> 00:50:30,066
they were representative
of the enemy, Mr. Secretary.
908
00:50:33,100 --> 00:50:36,667
My strategy for the war
is divided into three phases.
909
00:50:36,734 --> 00:50:38,533
In Phase One,
910
00:50:38,600 --> 00:50:42,266
employing
the 184,000-man level
now being considered,
911
00:50:42,333 --> 00:50:46,467
we would halt
the losing trend
by the end of 1965.
912
00:50:46,533 --> 00:50:47,900
In Phase Two,
913
00:50:47,967 --> 00:50:51,767
for which an additional
100,000 troops would
be needed,
914
00:50:51,834 --> 00:50:56,767
allied forces
would gain the initiative
by June 30, 1966.
915
00:50:56,834 --> 00:50:59,900
Pacification activities
would be expanded,
916
00:50:59,967 --> 00:51:03,066
aimed at winning
the hearts and minds
917
00:51:03,133 --> 00:51:05,900
of South Vietnamese
peasantry.
918
00:51:05,967 --> 00:51:08,700
If the Communists
do not then give up,
919
00:51:08,767 --> 00:51:11,166
Phase Three of our strategy
would kick in,
920
00:51:11,233 --> 00:51:15,567
the win phase,
which would begin
on July 1st, 1966,
921
00:51:15,633 --> 00:51:19,900
and conclude
by December 31st, 1967--
922
00:51:19,967 --> 00:51:23,900
the defeat of remaining
enemy forces and base areas.
923
00:51:23,967 --> 00:51:27,600
Additional reinforcements
will be needed for this phase,
924
00:51:27,667 --> 00:51:32,567
following which allied forces
will begin to be withdrawn.
925
00:51:32,633 --> 00:51:34,867
General,
that's a marvelous plan,
926
00:51:34,934 --> 00:51:38,100
but excessively abstract.
927
00:51:38,166 --> 00:51:39,834
I want to see your numbers.
928
00:51:39,900 --> 00:51:42,667
I want to see the percentage
of the country you now control
929
00:51:42,734 --> 00:51:44,467
and the percentage
you intend to control
930
00:51:44,533 --> 00:51:47,033
with these 200,000
additional men.
931
00:51:47,100 --> 00:51:49,934
I want to see
rates of infiltration
and interdiction,
932
00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:52,734
force ratios in each
of the tactical corps zones
933
00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:55,066
and enemy casualties
in battles fought
934
00:51:55,133 --> 00:51:58,867
and in projected battles
against these added forces.
935
00:52:18,800 --> 00:52:21,233
Woman on phone: Mr. Clifford?
The president on line one.
936
00:52:21,300 --> 00:52:24,734
Old friend,
I need you here.
937
00:52:33,033 --> 00:52:36,033
Ball:
Whatever resources are lost
through bombing or capture,
938
00:52:36,100 --> 00:52:37,800
China and Russia
will make up with resupply,
939
00:52:37,867 --> 00:52:41,100
encouraging a friendly game
of "I'm more revolutionary
than thou."
940
00:52:41,166 --> 00:52:44,533
Our intervention will give them
a cause over which to unite
941
00:52:44,600 --> 00:52:46,734
when it is in our interest
to deepen the breach
between them.
942
00:52:46,800 --> 00:52:48,767
But wouldn't
we lose credibility
throughout the world
943
00:52:48,834 --> 00:52:50,100
if we give up
as you propose?
944
00:52:50,166 --> 00:52:52,667
Wouldn't this be
an irreparable blow, George?
945
00:52:52,734 --> 00:52:54,066
A worse blow,
Mr. President,
946
00:52:54,133 --> 00:52:55,834
would be that the mightiest
power in the world
947
00:52:55,900 --> 00:52:58,100
is unable to defeat
one of the most backward.
948
00:52:58,166 --> 00:53:00,667
With the 71 battalions,
with Westy's plan,
949
00:53:00,734 --> 00:53:02,200
this war is winnable.
950
00:53:02,266 --> 00:53:04,233
I say we go in
and we get the job done.
951
00:53:04,300 --> 00:53:05,934
But can we get
the job done?
952
00:53:06,000 --> 00:53:08,867
What if they put
their stack in?
953
00:53:08,934 --> 00:53:11,600
What makes you think
if we put in the numbers
you're suggesting
954
00:53:11,667 --> 00:53:13,934
that Ho Chi Minh won't
match us man for man?
955
00:53:14,000 --> 00:53:16,867
This means greater bodies
of men, Mr. President,
956
00:53:16,934 --> 00:53:18,600
which will allow us
to cream them.
957
00:53:18,667 --> 00:53:20,633
Their firepower
against ours.
958
00:53:20,700 --> 00:53:23,266
Why does anyone think
that they will accommodate us
959
00:53:23,333 --> 00:53:24,834
by fighting
our kind of war?
960
00:53:24,900 --> 00:53:27,333
Their tactics
are terror and sniping.
961
00:53:27,400 --> 00:53:29,600
They have better access
to intelligence.
962
00:53:29,667 --> 00:53:31,233
Why is this?
963
00:53:31,300 --> 00:53:33,100
It's because
the South Vietnamese
government
964
00:53:33,166 --> 00:53:37,333
is heavily infiltrated
with Vietcong agents,
Mr. President.
965
00:53:37,400 --> 00:53:39,500
What other road can we go?
966
00:53:39,567 --> 00:53:41,300
Negotiations,
stopping the bombing?
967
00:53:41,367 --> 00:53:44,467
These make us look weak,
with cup in hand.
968
00:53:44,533 --> 00:53:47,033
Better to lose now
than after committing
200,000 men.
969
00:53:47,100 --> 00:53:48,300
I disagree.
970
00:53:48,367 --> 00:53:50,200
We have to make
a stand here.
971
00:53:50,266 --> 00:53:52,934
And if we fail,
it could be chalked up
to any number of things.
972
00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:55,133
Corruption amongst
Saigon's leaders,
for instance.
973
00:53:55,200 --> 00:53:56,600
Then we can get out.
974
00:53:56,667 --> 00:53:58,834
But this government
will have stood up
to the Communists.
975
00:53:58,900 --> 00:54:00,734
But we won't get out, Bob.
976
00:54:00,800 --> 00:54:03,734
We will double
our bets and get massacred
in the rice paddies.
977
00:54:03,800 --> 00:54:05,900
So-- so what's
your advice, George?
978
00:54:05,967 --> 00:54:07,633
Cut and run?
979
00:54:08,867 --> 00:54:10,533
Mr. President...
980
00:54:12,066 --> 00:54:13,767
no great captain
in history
981
00:54:13,834 --> 00:54:16,333
ever hesitated to make
a tactical withdrawal
982
00:54:16,400 --> 00:54:18,834
when conditions
were unfavorable to him.
983
00:54:22,800 --> 00:54:26,100
Does anyone else here agree
with what George is saying?
984
00:54:30,200 --> 00:54:33,600
I've asked Clark Clifford
to join us.
985
00:54:33,667 --> 00:54:37,400
Clark, do you have
any comments at this time?
986
00:54:39,166 --> 00:54:42,266
I-- I have a question
for General Wheeler.
987
00:54:42,333 --> 00:54:43,567
Wheeler:
Yes, sir.
988
00:54:43,633 --> 00:54:46,300
- Good morning, General.
- Good morning.
989
00:54:46,367 --> 00:54:49,967
If the president proceeds
with this plan,
990
00:54:50,033 --> 00:54:54,033
what, in your view,
would constitute
a victory?
991
00:54:54,100 --> 00:54:57,300
Wheeler:
What is the definition
of victory in this contest?
992
00:54:57,367 --> 00:54:59,033
Yes.
993
00:54:59,100 --> 00:55:01,700
A military victory
in the traditional sense
994
00:55:01,767 --> 00:55:04,166
is not what
we are seeking.
995
00:55:04,233 --> 00:55:06,867
To eliminate every last
Vietcong guerilla
996
00:55:06,934 --> 00:55:10,333
could require as many
as half a million men
997
00:55:10,400 --> 00:55:12,100
and five years--
998
00:55:12,166 --> 00:55:15,433
No one's considering
those kind of numbers,
no one.
999
00:55:15,500 --> 00:55:18,900
Wheeler:
Our objective
is to reach a stalemate
1000
00:55:18,967 --> 00:55:21,266
whereby we are
attriting the enemy
1001
00:55:21,333 --> 00:55:24,767
faster than he can
replace his losses.
1002
00:55:24,834 --> 00:55:27,767
This is the so-called
crossover point.
1003
00:55:27,834 --> 00:55:29,500
And how many men
will this require?
1004
00:55:29,567 --> 00:55:31,967
Wheeler:
A substantially
smaller number,
1005
00:55:32,033 --> 00:55:36,200
depending on how
the North Vietnamese
respond.
1006
00:55:36,266 --> 00:55:39,467
Well, might they respond
by sending in, say,
1007
00:55:39,533 --> 00:55:41,633
100,000 troops?
1008
00:55:41,700 --> 00:55:44,033
Wheeler:
We regard this
as unlikely.
1009
00:55:44,100 --> 00:55:47,166
Clifford:
Well, this is less than half
the men they have under arms.
1010
00:55:47,233 --> 00:55:48,600
Wheeler: Well,
it's certainly possible.
1011
00:55:48,667 --> 00:55:50,867
They already have
50,000 men down there.
1012
00:55:50,934 --> 00:55:53,734
Clifford:
And to achieve
the ten-to-one superiority,
1013
00:55:53,800 --> 00:55:55,834
which I understand
is barely adequate
1014
00:55:55,900 --> 00:55:59,900
for conventional forces
in a guerilla situation,
1015
00:55:59,967 --> 00:56:02,233
how many troops
would be required
1016
00:56:02,300 --> 00:56:04,133
to meet this possible threat?
1017
00:56:05,400 --> 00:56:07,767
As I said,
this would be unlikely.
1018
00:56:07,834 --> 00:56:10,934
One million troops,
is that not correct, General?
1019
00:56:12,033 --> 00:56:14,133
You see?
1020
00:56:14,200 --> 00:56:19,934
We would need
one million men
in Vietnam.
1021
00:56:27,433 --> 00:56:29,800
Excuse me.
Clark.
1022
00:56:29,867 --> 00:56:31,433
I can't tell you
how grateful I am
1023
00:56:31,500 --> 00:56:33,467
to finally have an ally
at the barricades.
1024
00:56:33,533 --> 00:56:36,400
Well, it's just
what makes sense, George.
1025
00:56:36,467 --> 00:56:39,433
Not to Bob McNamara,
but to me.
1026
00:56:39,500 --> 00:56:43,567
A million men was
straight out of your memo
of October last year.
1027
00:56:43,633 --> 00:56:46,500
An impressively persuasive
document, in my opinion.
1028
00:56:46,567 --> 00:56:48,567
- All 67 pages of it?
- Well...
1029
00:56:48,633 --> 00:56:51,400
I haven't shown much restraint
on the subject, it's true.
1030
00:56:51,467 --> 00:56:53,900
If he brought you in,
it must be because I'm like
1031
00:56:53,967 --> 00:56:56,433
an old broken record now.
1032
00:56:56,500 --> 00:56:58,200
Well, then there'd
be two of us.
1033
00:56:58,266 --> 00:57:00,800
Scratchy and irritating
as hell.
1034
00:57:00,867 --> 00:57:02,533
Good day, George.
1035
00:57:02,600 --> 00:57:04,233
Yeah?
1036
00:57:04,300 --> 00:57:06,633
The VISTA volunteers
are here for the pictures,
Mr. President.
1037
00:57:06,700 --> 00:57:08,166
Tell 'em I'll be out
in a minute.
1038
00:57:08,233 --> 00:57:11,734
And tell Valenti I wanna
see him right after.
1039
00:57:11,800 --> 00:57:14,633
I called Marge as soon
as I heard you were safe.
1040
00:57:14,700 --> 00:57:16,233
Cowards.
1041
00:57:16,300 --> 00:57:18,133
I really appreciated that.
She was pretty shaken up.
1042
00:57:18,200 --> 00:57:19,834
- Well...
- She hates when
I go over there.
1043
00:57:19,900 --> 00:57:21,734
Well, I hate sending you.
1044
00:57:21,800 --> 00:57:23,900
The whole thing stinks
to high heaven.
1045
00:57:23,967 --> 00:57:27,900
What did you want
to tell me in private?
1046
00:57:30,600 --> 00:57:33,667
I've managed to keep
these Vietnam expenditures
1047
00:57:33,734 --> 00:57:35,233
under wraps
as you requested,
1048
00:57:35,300 --> 00:57:37,300
but if you decide
to move forward with this,
1049
00:57:37,367 --> 00:57:40,734
it's going to be
impossible to keep up
the guise indefinitely,
1050
00:57:40,800 --> 00:57:44,033
and I strongly believe you
should present this bill
to the American people.
1051
00:57:44,100 --> 00:57:45,400
No, absolutely not.
1052
00:57:45,467 --> 00:57:49,066
Mr. President,
I can't continue to hide
these kinds of figures.
1053
00:57:49,133 --> 00:57:51,900
Phase One
of Westmoreland's
program alone
1054
00:57:51,967 --> 00:57:54,500
is going to run us
$12 billion.
1055
00:57:54,567 --> 00:57:57,500
12 billion?
1056
00:57:57,567 --> 00:58:00,200
I can't ask Congress
for $12 billion!
1057
00:58:00,266 --> 00:58:03,367
- Mr. President--
- Bob, it'll be unshirted
hell if I go to the Hill
1058
00:58:03,433 --> 00:58:05,133
asking for
that kind of money.
1059
00:58:05,200 --> 00:58:07,233
I'll never get another thing
out of 'em again.
1060
00:58:07,300 --> 00:58:10,567
Now, how much can you
trim off that?
1061
00:58:10,633 --> 00:58:13,834
Bob, I've got my ox
in a ditch here.
1062
00:58:13,900 --> 00:58:16,834
Now, what can
you do for me?
1063
00:58:16,900 --> 00:58:20,467
If we continue to use
the maximum transfer authority
from other areas,
1064
00:58:20,533 --> 00:58:22,033
I could probably cut
these figures in half,
1065
00:58:22,100 --> 00:58:23,633
but we'd still need
a big appropriation
1066
00:58:23,700 --> 00:58:26,133
to carry us
through this year.
1067
00:58:26,200 --> 00:58:28,233
But Westmoreland says
if we put the men in,
1068
00:58:28,300 --> 00:58:30,266
there's a chance they'll quit
by year's end, right?
1069
00:58:30,333 --> 00:58:31,700
Well, that's certainly
what we all hope,
1070
00:58:31,767 --> 00:58:33,066
but we can't
count on West--
1071
00:58:33,133 --> 00:58:34,934
Just do the number counting,
will you, Bob?
1072
00:58:35,000 --> 00:58:37,467
Yeah.
Get it as low as you can.
1073
00:58:39,433 --> 00:58:41,533
One more.
1074
00:58:44,800 --> 00:58:47,900
All right. All right.
Thank you, thank you.
1075
00:58:49,834 --> 00:58:51,700
Jack, I need a statement
for next week.
1076
00:58:51,767 --> 00:58:54,734
I'm not sure yet
if I'm gonna use it,
but I need it ready.
1077
00:58:54,800 --> 00:58:56,133
All right, Mr. President.
1078
00:58:56,200 --> 00:58:58,633
You know, Jack, I want war
like I want polio.
1079
00:58:58,700 --> 00:59:00,000
The shooting,
the bombing--
1080
00:59:00,066 --> 00:59:02,133
goes against
every bone in my body.
1081
00:59:02,200 --> 00:59:04,667
You know that better
than almost anyone.
1082
00:59:04,734 --> 00:59:07,834
These young people here,
that's what I'm all about.
1083
00:59:07,900 --> 00:59:09,834
That was me, in Cotulla,
1084
00:59:09,900 --> 00:59:11,900
teaching Mexican kids
living in hovels,
1085
00:59:11,967 --> 00:59:15,266
treated worse
than you'd treat a dog.
1086
00:59:15,333 --> 00:59:17,900
But here I'd start
a billion-dollar bank for 'em
1087
00:59:17,967 --> 00:59:19,734
in Southeast Asia,
free money,
1088
00:59:19,800 --> 00:59:21,934
and Ho Chi Minh wants
no part of it.
1089
00:59:22,000 --> 00:59:24,900
I could have turned that place
into the Tennessee Valley.
1090
00:59:24,967 --> 00:59:27,166
I read he said he's willing
to fight for 20 years.
1091
00:59:27,233 --> 00:59:29,000
I know what he says,
I know what I say,
1092
00:59:29,066 --> 00:59:31,233
and I know what I must do
despite what I say.
1093
00:59:31,300 --> 00:59:33,266
Damn it!
1094
00:59:33,333 --> 00:59:36,567
I want to leave the footprint
of America in Vietnam.
1095
00:59:36,633 --> 00:59:39,433
Schools, dams, hospitals.
1096
00:59:39,500 --> 00:59:41,967
Bomb craters,
that'll be our footprint.
1097
00:59:42,033 --> 00:59:44,300
That's what they'll
remember me for.
1098
00:59:44,367 --> 00:59:46,934
Not for health care
or civil rights
or education.
1099
00:59:47,000 --> 00:59:50,800
No, sir.
It'll be Vietnam,
Vietnam, Vietnam.
1100
00:59:50,867 --> 00:59:53,066
20 bills I'm trying
to get out of committee,
1101
00:59:53,133 --> 00:59:55,734
and 12 out of 18
working hours every day,
1102
00:59:55,800 --> 00:59:59,300
my head's stuck up
that raggedy-ass little
fourth-rate country
1103
00:59:59,367 --> 01:00:02,467
that doesn't even have
the fight to save itself.
1104
01:00:05,266 --> 01:00:07,734
You get with McNamara.
1105
01:00:07,800 --> 01:00:09,367
You know
what it's got to say.
1106
01:00:09,433 --> 01:00:13,266
And tell Busby or Goodwin
to put the music to it, Jack.
1107
01:00:25,300 --> 01:00:27,266
Why are you up?
1108
01:00:27,333 --> 01:00:29,233
You needn't
ask me that
each time.
1109
01:00:29,300 --> 01:00:30,600
Eh.
1110
01:00:30,667 --> 01:00:32,467
Tried not to wake you.
1111
01:00:32,533 --> 01:00:34,767
Got the ringer so low,
I can't hear it.
1112
01:00:34,834 --> 01:00:36,934
Got the flashlight.
1113
01:00:37,033 --> 01:00:40,200
Maybe you ought to sleep
in that other room you set up.
1114
01:00:40,266 --> 01:00:42,667
What happened to that prime rib
from the Medicare meeting?
1115
01:00:42,734 --> 01:00:44,166
Is that what you want?
1116
01:00:44,233 --> 01:00:46,633
There's a nice
chicken left over
from the Education lunch.
1117
01:00:46,700 --> 01:00:49,367
Johnson:
I saw 'em put it away.
1118
01:00:49,433 --> 01:00:52,000
Oh, darling,
you've been so good
about your diet,
1119
01:00:52,066 --> 01:00:55,700
- but I don't see any point
in the middle of the night--
- I don't care about that now.
1120
01:00:55,767 --> 01:00:58,800
Another heart attack might
be the answer to my problems.
1121
01:00:58,867 --> 01:01:01,000
All right, you stop
that kind of talk, please.
1122
01:01:01,066 --> 01:01:02,467
I worry enough
about your health.
1123
01:01:02,533 --> 01:01:04,700
I'll fix something
for you if you sit down.
1124
01:01:04,767 --> 01:01:06,367
- All right.
- Come on.
1125
01:01:06,433 --> 01:01:08,467
All right.
1126
01:01:08,533 --> 01:01:10,367
I'm sorry, honey.
1127
01:01:21,433 --> 01:01:23,100
Luci met a boy.
1128
01:01:23,166 --> 01:01:26,700
When she went
on that Chicago trip
with you last week.
1129
01:01:26,767 --> 01:01:29,033
What do you mean,
she met a boy?
1130
01:01:29,100 --> 01:01:31,266
Why didn't I know
about this?
1131
01:01:31,333 --> 01:01:33,200
That day she went
to Milwaukee
1132
01:01:33,266 --> 01:01:34,867
and visited
the William Feldsteins.
1133
01:01:34,934 --> 01:01:36,767
- Ah.
- Mm-hmm.
1134
01:01:36,834 --> 01:01:39,734
She visited Beth Jenkins
at Marquette,
1135
01:01:39,800 --> 01:01:42,400
and Beth had
some friends over,
1136
01:01:42,467 --> 01:01:44,100
all the students there,
1137
01:01:44,166 --> 01:01:49,400
and among them
was this... boy.
1138
01:01:49,467 --> 01:01:52,700
Patrick Nugent is his name.
1139
01:01:53,767 --> 01:01:55,200
He's Catholic.
1140
01:01:56,700 --> 01:02:00,734
So Luci will only date boys
who are Catholic now.
1141
01:02:00,800 --> 01:02:03,200
And she calls him "Paddy."
1142
01:02:03,266 --> 01:02:06,900
- Thank you.
- So I am paying attention.
1143
01:02:06,967 --> 01:02:09,300
"He's just tons,
Mother."
1144
01:02:09,367 --> 01:02:12,834
She said to me
that's the new expression.
1145
01:02:12,900 --> 01:02:15,700
Tons.
Move your elbow.
1146
01:02:15,767 --> 01:02:16,867
Thank you.
1147
01:02:16,934 --> 01:02:19,834
Now, you like the chicken?
1148
01:02:19,900 --> 01:02:21,800
You remarked on it.
1149
01:02:23,934 --> 01:02:26,233
I didn't know of it.
1150
01:02:26,300 --> 01:02:29,533
You might have shown it
to me this morning.
1151
01:02:29,600 --> 01:02:32,700
- And woken you again?
- Oh...
1152
01:02:32,767 --> 01:02:35,800
Like a jackass
in a hailstorm.
1153
01:02:35,867 --> 01:02:38,934
I guess I'll just have
to hunker up and take it.
1154
01:02:40,633 --> 01:02:44,734
I feel like
I'm going down
in a plane.
1155
01:02:44,800 --> 01:02:47,734
I can crash with it
and burn up
1156
01:02:47,800 --> 01:02:50,400
or jump and die.
1157
01:02:52,200 --> 01:02:53,600
Where we were
when I came in,
1158
01:02:53,667 --> 01:02:56,533
I'd-- I'd trade
back to that.
1159
01:02:57,967 --> 01:03:01,300
I'd trade back
to the damn vice presidency
1160
01:03:01,367 --> 01:03:03,867
to get out of this mess.
1161
01:03:15,433 --> 01:03:17,967
Bill on phone:
Clark, the president would
like you and your wife
1162
01:03:18,033 --> 01:03:19,633
to join him at Camp David
this weekend.
1163
01:03:19,700 --> 01:03:21,500
Clark on phone:
Oh, thank you, Bill.
Thank the president.
1164
01:03:21,567 --> 01:03:24,200
We'd love to, but we have
a prior engagement.
1165
01:03:24,266 --> 01:03:26,567
Bill:
Clark, is there any way
you can make it?
1166
01:03:26,633 --> 01:03:28,967
He's working on
an escalation speech.
1167
01:03:29,033 --> 01:03:31,000
Clark:
Has he made up his mind?
1168
01:03:31,066 --> 01:03:33,467
Bill:
I say yes,
but he's asking for you.
1169
01:03:33,533 --> 01:03:35,934
Clark:
And who else
will be there?
1170
01:03:36,000 --> 01:03:38,200
Bill:
Bob McNamara.
1171
01:04:03,400 --> 01:04:05,066
Hi, Bob.
1172
01:04:07,834 --> 01:04:10,734
Mr. and Mrs. McNamara,
I'd like you to meet
my friend, Pat Nugent.
1173
01:04:10,800 --> 01:04:12,200
It's an honor
to meet you, sir.
1174
01:04:12,266 --> 01:04:13,734
A pleasure.
My wife Marg.
1175
01:04:13,800 --> 01:04:15,100
- Afternoon, ma'am.
- Nice to meet you.
1176
01:04:15,166 --> 01:04:16,533
Air National Guard?
Where are you stationed?
1177
01:04:16,600 --> 01:04:18,900
I'll be at Andrews
with the 113th, sir,
1178
01:04:18,967 --> 01:04:20,633
but down to San Antonio
first for basic.
1179
01:04:20,700 --> 01:04:22,900
Uh-huh. Lackland
Air Force Base, sure.
1180
01:04:22,967 --> 01:04:24,633
Used to call it Kelly
back in '42
1181
01:04:24,700 --> 01:04:27,400
when I was going
around helping to build
an Air Force in this country.
1182
01:04:27,467 --> 01:04:29,033
You know, we only had
a handful of planes
1183
01:04:29,100 --> 01:04:31,433
when the Japanese attacked us,
spread all over the country.
1184
01:04:31,500 --> 01:04:33,700
- Is that right?
- Yeah.
1185
01:04:33,767 --> 01:04:35,367
And Hap Arnold knew the name
of every one of 'em.
1186
01:04:35,433 --> 01:04:37,433
I've got some Hap Arnold
stories for you.
1187
01:04:37,500 --> 01:04:39,500
Yeah. Hey.
1188
01:04:39,567 --> 01:04:40,934
Uh, sorry.
1189
01:04:41,000 --> 01:04:42,166
We'll leave everything
till tomorrow.
1190
01:04:42,233 --> 01:04:43,433
We'll talk
in the morning.
1191
01:04:43,500 --> 01:04:46,133
- I look forward to it.
- Come on in.
1192
01:04:46,200 --> 01:04:48,000
Hey, how are you?
1193
01:04:49,467 --> 01:04:52,066
Let the best minds
of our administration
1194
01:04:52,133 --> 01:04:54,133
start looking
for a way out
1195
01:04:54,200 --> 01:04:58,333
and stop looking
for a way to win
this unwinnable war,
1196
01:04:58,400 --> 01:05:00,934
because it is
my considered opinion
1197
01:05:01,000 --> 01:05:06,133
that continuing on that path
will lead us to catastrophe.
1198
01:05:09,867 --> 01:05:13,333
Any unbiased jury would
give you your verdict, Clark,
1199
01:05:13,400 --> 01:05:15,166
no question.
1200
01:05:15,233 --> 01:05:17,000
But?
1201
01:05:17,066 --> 01:05:21,000
But if it's true
what Moyers says,
1202
01:05:21,066 --> 01:05:23,266
that Lyndon's in
McNamara's pocket...
1203
01:05:28,033 --> 01:05:30,600
McNamara has
such sway in there.
1204
01:05:30,667 --> 01:05:34,166
Truman took your advice
over George Marshall's,
1205
01:05:34,233 --> 01:05:35,300
for heaven's sakes.
1206
01:05:35,367 --> 01:05:37,000
Kennedy, too.
1207
01:05:37,066 --> 01:05:39,900
Yeah, but Lyndon
is another kettle
of fish.
1208
01:05:39,967 --> 01:05:43,266
Give him
a new vision, Clark.
1209
01:05:43,333 --> 01:05:46,400
He'll hear you.
1210
01:05:46,467 --> 01:05:49,867
Johnson:
Rinaldo, leave it there.
1211
01:05:56,367 --> 01:05:59,200
So, these are the numbers.
1212
01:05:59,266 --> 01:06:01,166
Now, you will not
be held accountable
1213
01:06:01,233 --> 01:06:03,300
for anything
that has happened
up to this point.
1214
01:06:03,367 --> 01:06:07,266
In fact,
you will be admired
for the noble attempt
1215
01:06:07,333 --> 01:06:09,767
you have made to honor
your predecessor's commitment,
1216
01:06:09,834 --> 01:06:13,500
a commitment that has been
exploited by that corrupt
1217
01:06:13,567 --> 01:06:17,166
and self-destructive regime
in South Vietnam.
1218
01:06:17,233 --> 01:06:20,000
The bombing
might have worked,
but it hasn't.
1219
01:06:20,066 --> 01:06:21,767
And to make it work,
1220
01:06:21,834 --> 01:06:24,934
you would have to resort
to unconscionable measures
1221
01:06:25,000 --> 01:06:28,967
that would make you
a hero to those in this
country you disdain
1222
01:06:29,033 --> 01:06:31,533
and a criminal
to those you have sought
1223
01:06:31,600 --> 01:06:34,734
all your life to assist,
the young and the poor,
1224
01:06:34,800 --> 01:06:36,967
who are the ones
who will have to
fight this war.
1225
01:06:37,033 --> 01:06:39,266
This-- this is not
the last inning
1226
01:06:39,333 --> 01:06:41,834
in the struggle
against Communism.
1227
01:06:41,900 --> 01:06:44,200
We must pick those spots
1228
01:06:44,266 --> 01:06:46,200
where the stakes
are highest for us
1229
01:06:46,266 --> 01:06:48,000
and where we hold the cards
that'll give us
1230
01:06:48,066 --> 01:06:50,633
the greatest opportunity
to prevail.
1231
01:06:50,700 --> 01:06:54,000
Ho Chi Minh told
the French-- he said,
1232
01:06:54,066 --> 01:06:56,367
"You will kill
ten of my men,
1233
01:06:56,433 --> 01:06:59,400
and I will kill
only one of yours,
1234
01:06:59,467 --> 01:07:02,333
but in the end,
it is you who will tire."
1235
01:07:02,400 --> 01:07:03,433
And they did.
1236
01:07:03,500 --> 01:07:05,400
And 11 years ago,
at Dien Bien Phu,
1237
01:07:05,467 --> 01:07:07,433
they just couldn't
do it anymore.
1238
01:07:07,500 --> 01:07:10,300
The North Vietnamese
lost 500,000
1239
01:07:10,367 --> 01:07:13,133
in their war
against the French,
and they did not tire,
1240
01:07:13,200 --> 01:07:14,767
and they will not tire now.
1241
01:07:14,834 --> 01:07:18,700
Not after you commit 100,000,
not after you commit 500,000.
1242
01:07:18,767 --> 01:07:22,834
And if you
do not win decisively
after a big buildup,
1243
01:07:22,900 --> 01:07:25,433
it will be
a huge catastrophe.
1244
01:07:25,500 --> 01:07:29,033
It will destroy the American
people's faith in you
1245
01:07:29,100 --> 01:07:31,333
and the Democratic Party
1246
01:07:31,400 --> 01:07:34,300
and their government
for years to come.
1247
01:07:34,367 --> 01:07:37,166
Now, you have always
stressed the economic
1248
01:07:37,233 --> 01:07:39,700
and social dimensions
of world problems.
1249
01:07:39,767 --> 01:07:41,400
And in this
you are unrivaled.
1250
01:07:41,467 --> 01:07:44,600
You have a unique
opportunity here
1251
01:07:44,667 --> 01:07:47,867
to address this problem,
economically and socially.
1252
01:07:47,934 --> 01:07:51,967
Not by war,
not by killing people,
1253
01:07:52,033 --> 01:07:55,700
but by helping them
here and there.
1254
01:07:55,767 --> 01:08:00,533
This is a year
of minimum political risk
for you, Mr. President.
1255
01:08:00,600 --> 01:08:04,066
You were elected
by the largest landslide
in our history.
1256
01:08:04,133 --> 01:08:09,433
The reactionary elements
of this society will not
soon recover.
1257
01:08:09,500 --> 01:08:13,367
I foresee little erosion
of your prestige and power
1258
01:08:13,433 --> 01:08:17,667
if we cut our losses
and get out of Vietnam.
1259
01:08:18,934 --> 01:08:20,767
But I foresee
nothing but disaster
1260
01:08:20,834 --> 01:08:24,900
for you and this country
if we don't.
1261
01:08:25,000 --> 01:08:28,300
If we escalate this war,
1262
01:08:28,367 --> 01:08:31,467
I believe it will ruin us.
1263
01:08:31,533 --> 01:08:34,000
And I believe
it will ruin you
1264
01:08:34,066 --> 01:08:38,033
and all the great good
you have sought to do.
1265
01:08:46,066 --> 01:08:49,400
Shit.
1266
01:08:49,467 --> 01:08:52,600
It's a hot one already.
1267
01:08:52,667 --> 01:08:54,967
You wish you were back
in Texas, Mr. President?
1268
01:08:55,033 --> 01:08:59,834
Fellas, right now
I'd rather be on the moon.
1269
01:09:06,800 --> 01:09:08,834
Okay, Bob.
1270
01:09:10,533 --> 01:09:12,266
Mr. President,
Clark has suggested
1271
01:09:12,333 --> 01:09:13,967
that the stakes
aren't there in Vietnam.
1272
01:09:14,033 --> 01:09:15,433
This is damn shocking.
1273
01:09:15,500 --> 01:09:17,967
Here are the stakes.
1274
01:09:18,033 --> 01:09:20,133
Number one:
national security.
1275
01:09:20,200 --> 01:09:22,300
If we back down
in Vietnam,
1276
01:09:22,367 --> 01:09:23,867
it will only be
a matter of time
1277
01:09:23,934 --> 01:09:25,967
before we have to go in
someplace else.
1278
01:09:26,033 --> 01:09:28,567
Two: the commitments
we've made and the price
of breaking them.
1279
01:09:28,633 --> 01:09:31,934
And three: our prestige
before the world.
1280
01:09:32,000 --> 01:09:35,467
Could the stakes
be any higher?
1281
01:09:35,533 --> 01:09:37,667
To elaborate
on point one,
1282
01:09:37,734 --> 01:09:39,667
if we withdraw,
Laos, Cambodia,
1283
01:09:39,734 --> 01:09:41,400
Thailand,
Burma will fall,
1284
01:09:41,467 --> 01:09:43,700
but the ripple effect
will be far greater,
1285
01:09:43,767 --> 01:09:48,700
with Communist agitation
increasing in Africa,
India, even Japan.
1286
01:09:48,767 --> 01:09:51,133
We will have to give up
some bases.
1287
01:09:51,200 --> 01:09:54,767
Pakistan will move
closer to China.
1288
01:09:54,834 --> 01:09:55,967
Point two.
1289
01:09:56,033 --> 01:09:58,967
Our pledge is a pillar
of peace in the world,
1290
01:09:59,033 --> 01:10:00,133
and if we break it,
1291
01:10:00,200 --> 01:10:02,000
our allies will lose
faith in us.
1292
01:10:02,066 --> 01:10:05,300
And three,
because we have
so persistently
1293
01:10:05,367 --> 01:10:07,367
and publicly
committed ourselves
1294
01:10:07,433 --> 01:10:10,300
to preventing a Communist
takeover in South Vietnam,
1295
01:10:10,367 --> 01:10:12,767
our failure to see
that commitment through
1296
01:10:12,834 --> 01:10:16,533
will be
profoundly devastating
to our prestige.
1297
01:10:16,600 --> 01:10:19,467
This is why I recommend
the following--
1298
01:10:19,533 --> 01:10:21,834
one: put the men in.
1299
01:10:21,900 --> 01:10:23,734
Westmoreland's plan
is sound.
1300
01:10:23,800 --> 01:10:27,200
Every quantitative measurement
shows we can win.
1301
01:10:27,266 --> 01:10:30,133
Two: call up the reserves
and extend tours of duty.
1302
01:10:30,200 --> 01:10:32,066
And three:
expand the bombing.
1303
01:10:32,133 --> 01:10:35,567
In the north,
remove restrictions
on bridge and rail lines,
1304
01:10:35,633 --> 01:10:36,967
mine the harbors.
1305
01:10:37,033 --> 01:10:40,867
Expand Rolling Thunder from
2,500 to 4,000 sorties a month.
1306
01:10:40,934 --> 01:10:42,967
In the south,
tactical air strikes
1307
01:10:43,033 --> 01:10:47,767
must be supplemented
by increased B-52 bombing
of VC base areas.
1308
01:10:47,834 --> 01:10:49,100
Now, to elaborate...
1309
01:10:56,066 --> 01:10:58,233
Clark.
1310
01:10:58,300 --> 01:11:00,467
Clark, I think you scored
some terrific points in there.
1311
01:11:00,533 --> 01:11:03,000
I'm so glad you were
arguing the other side.
1312
01:11:03,066 --> 01:11:05,066
Bob...
1313
01:11:07,100 --> 01:11:08,834
you believe
what you've said
to the president?
1314
01:11:08,900 --> 01:11:10,300
You're certain
we can win?
1315
01:11:10,367 --> 01:11:13,266
Well, I sure hope
there's no mistake
1316
01:11:13,333 --> 01:11:14,700
in my confidence
on the president's part.
1317
01:11:14,767 --> 01:11:16,867
No, that's not
what I'm asking.
1318
01:11:16,934 --> 01:11:20,100
Clark, I've seen the charts,
I've run the numbers.
1319
01:11:20,166 --> 01:11:21,800
Everything else is...
1320
01:11:21,867 --> 01:11:24,767
soft, speculation.
1321
01:11:24,834 --> 01:11:27,467
I had dinner with
President Kennedy
1322
01:11:27,533 --> 01:11:30,133
just after
the Missile Crisis.
1323
01:11:30,200 --> 01:11:33,066
And he told me that
if it had not been for you,
1324
01:11:33,133 --> 01:11:35,767
keeping your head,
facing down the chiefs,
1325
01:11:35,834 --> 01:11:37,800
thinking clearly,
1326
01:11:37,867 --> 01:11:40,266
we might not be
alive today.
1327
01:11:40,333 --> 01:11:42,700
Now, there were no charts
and numbers then,
1328
01:11:42,767 --> 01:11:44,700
just judgment.
1329
01:11:44,767 --> 01:11:48,100
You're telling me
that it is your judgment
1330
01:11:48,166 --> 01:11:51,333
that this is the best course
of action for this country,
1331
01:11:51,400 --> 01:11:53,367
for this president?
1332
01:11:55,233 --> 01:11:58,633
I can only give
my best advice.
1333
01:11:58,700 --> 01:12:00,867
That's what I did
for Jack Kennedy.
1334
01:12:00,934 --> 01:12:03,200
It's what I'm doing now.
1335
01:12:04,600 --> 01:12:06,300
I'll see you
at dinner, Clark.
1336
01:12:23,266 --> 01:12:25,867
You want to stop somewhere
and talk about it?
1337
01:12:25,934 --> 01:12:27,633
I'm all talked out,
honey.
1338
01:12:27,700 --> 01:12:29,433
I've done nothing but talk.
1339
01:12:29,500 --> 01:12:31,200
At some point,
the talking's gotta end.
1340
01:12:31,266 --> 01:12:34,000
God help us
when the talking ends.
1341
01:12:36,467 --> 01:12:38,066
Lyndon. Oh.
1342
01:12:45,100 --> 01:12:48,200
A hundred PhDs among 'em,
10,000 IQ points,
1343
01:12:48,266 --> 01:12:50,467
and I can't get an answer
I can sit with.
1344
01:12:50,533 --> 01:12:52,300
And if it turns bad,
1345
01:12:52,367 --> 01:12:54,467
they'll say this wouldn't have
happened under Jack Kennedy!
1346
01:12:54,533 --> 01:12:57,266
No, sir!
'Cause he could do no wrong!
1347
01:12:57,333 --> 01:12:59,100
He leaves a thousand
on the beach in Cuba,
1348
01:12:59,166 --> 01:13:00,567
and his numbers go up!
1349
01:13:11,500 --> 01:13:13,367
Lyndon.
1350
01:13:13,433 --> 01:13:16,200
Now-- oh.
1351
01:13:18,667 --> 01:13:21,400
Lyndon, now,
come on, honey.
1352
01:13:27,834 --> 01:13:30,100
What do you think of crashing
through that damn gate
1353
01:13:30,166 --> 01:13:32,967
and driving back to Texas?
1354
01:13:33,033 --> 01:13:36,400
Now you know you'd get
no argument from me.
1355
01:13:36,467 --> 01:13:39,333
You hate it that much?
1356
01:13:39,400 --> 01:13:43,300
Have you ever considered
the shoes I've had to fill?
1357
01:13:43,367 --> 01:13:45,300
She didn't die
with him.
1358
01:13:45,367 --> 01:13:47,000
Oh, he didn't die.
1359
01:13:47,066 --> 01:13:48,967
He's more alive than ever.
1360
01:13:49,033 --> 01:13:51,166
'Cause his half-size brother
with one and a half his brains
1361
01:13:51,233 --> 01:13:53,967
and a tenth of his scruples
ate his heart out
1362
01:13:54,033 --> 01:13:55,467
and took in his spirit
1363
01:13:55,533 --> 01:13:58,300
as sure as he was
out of some Injun story.
1364
01:13:58,367 --> 01:13:59,700
And me?
1365
01:13:59,767 --> 01:14:01,500
I'll be President
What's-His-Name
1366
01:14:01,567 --> 01:14:03,734
who came
between the two.
1367
01:14:03,800 --> 01:14:06,400
The president who lost
America's first war.
1368
01:14:06,467 --> 01:14:08,700
Oh, shh, shh.
1369
01:14:11,734 --> 01:14:14,033
Why must young Americans,
1370
01:14:14,100 --> 01:14:17,300
born into a land
exultant with hope
1371
01:14:17,367 --> 01:14:20,066
and with golden promises,
1372
01:14:20,133 --> 01:14:23,367
toil and suffer
and sometimes die
1373
01:14:23,433 --> 01:14:28,767
in such a remote
and distant place
as Vietnam?
1374
01:14:28,834 --> 01:14:32,266
It is because
in the fight for freedom,
1375
01:14:32,333 --> 01:14:34,967
the American people
have learned
1376
01:14:35,033 --> 01:14:37,734
that retreat
does not bring safety
1377
01:14:37,800 --> 01:14:42,166
and weakness does not
bring peace.
1378
01:14:42,233 --> 01:14:45,867
If we are driven
from the field
in Vietnam,
1379
01:14:45,934 --> 01:14:48,600
then no nation
can ever again
1380
01:14:48,667 --> 01:14:53,633
have the same confidence
in American promises
1381
01:14:53,700 --> 01:14:56,367
or in American
protection.
1382
01:14:57,767 --> 01:15:01,300
We did not choose to be
the guardians at the gate,
1383
01:15:01,367 --> 01:15:04,900
but there is no one else.
1384
01:15:05,000 --> 01:15:08,533
Nor would surrender in Vietnam
bring peace,
1385
01:15:08,600 --> 01:15:11,800
because we learned
from Hitler at Munich
1386
01:15:11,867 --> 01:15:16,433
that success only feeds
the appetite of aggression.
1387
01:15:17,667 --> 01:15:19,567
I have asked
the commanding general,
1388
01:15:19,633 --> 01:15:21,533
General Westmoreland,
1389
01:15:21,600 --> 01:15:25,367
what more he needs to meet
this mounting aggression.
1390
01:15:25,433 --> 01:15:27,767
He has told me,
1391
01:15:27,834 --> 01:15:30,333
and we will meet his needs.
1392
01:15:30,400 --> 01:15:33,900
I have today
ordered to Vietnam
1393
01:15:33,967 --> 01:15:37,800
the Airmobile Division
and certain other forces
1394
01:15:37,867 --> 01:15:39,734
which will raise
our fighting strength
1395
01:15:39,800 --> 01:15:46,533
from 75,000 to 125,000 men
almost immediately.
1396
01:15:46,600 --> 01:15:49,767
Additional forces
will be needed later,
1397
01:15:49,834 --> 01:15:51,967
and they will be sent
as requested.
1398
01:15:52,033 --> 01:15:54,300
Yeah, but how many?
1399
01:15:55,533 --> 01:15:59,467
Johnson:
Now, I do not find it easy
1400
01:15:59,533 --> 01:16:02,533
to send the flower
of our youth,
1401
01:16:02,600 --> 01:16:06,667
our finest young men
into battle.
1402
01:16:06,734 --> 01:16:09,433
I think I know
how their mothers weep
1403
01:16:09,500 --> 01:16:11,767
and their families sorrow.
1404
01:16:11,834 --> 01:16:13,533
Mr. Secretary,
1405
01:16:13,600 --> 01:16:17,066
Senator Morse has been calling
Vietnam "McNamara's War."
1406
01:16:17,133 --> 01:16:19,066
What is your reaction?
1407
01:16:19,133 --> 01:16:22,100
This is a war
of the United States
government.
1408
01:16:22,166 --> 01:16:24,266
I'm following
the president's policy
1409
01:16:24,333 --> 01:16:26,800
and working in close cooperation
with the secretary of state.
1410
01:16:26,867 --> 01:16:30,734
Now, I must say
I don't object to it
being called McNamara's War.
1411
01:16:30,800 --> 01:16:32,400
I think it's
a very important war,
1412
01:16:32,467 --> 01:16:35,767
one that I'm pleased
to be identified with
and to do what I can to win it.
1413
01:16:35,834 --> 01:16:37,934
Man on radio:
Appearing on "Meet the Press"
yesterday,
1414
01:16:38,000 --> 01:16:40,400
McNamara was asked to comment
on Hanoi's claim
1415
01:16:40,467 --> 01:16:43,333
that some 10,000 civilians
have been killed
in the bombing,
1416
01:16:43,400 --> 01:16:45,700
including thousands
of women and children.
1417
01:16:45,767 --> 01:16:47,467
- McNamara: Some loss
of innocent life
1418
01:16:47,533 --> 01:16:50,233
is unavoidable
in an operation such as this.
1419
01:16:50,300 --> 01:16:51,834
I can tell you
that we are taking
1420
01:16:51,900 --> 01:16:54,567
every possible precaution
in choosing targets.
1421
01:16:54,633 --> 01:16:57,633
The risk of civilian
casualties is most assuredly
1422
01:16:57,700 --> 01:17:00,667
- one of several
factors considered.
1423
01:17:11,166 --> 01:17:13,934
McNamara:
So what target
are you recommending?
1424
01:17:14,000 --> 01:17:18,266
It's a cement factory
along a major rail line.
1425
01:17:18,333 --> 01:17:21,533
General Wheeler feels
military value is marginal.
1426
01:17:21,600 --> 01:17:25,233
But the monsoon has socked in
more valuable targets.
1427
01:17:25,300 --> 01:17:27,667
McNamara:
What's the output
of the facility?
1428
01:17:27,734 --> 01:17:30,133
Colonel:
It appears to be small, sir,
even by their standards.
1429
01:17:30,200 --> 01:17:32,600
It couldn't produce
enough for them to rely
heavily on the output.
1430
01:17:32,667 --> 01:17:34,533
McNamara:
Let's give it a "C"
for military value.
1431
01:17:34,600 --> 01:17:36,133
What's your
risk analysis?
1432
01:17:36,200 --> 01:17:38,867
Colonel:
Risk to pilots
is close to zero.
1433
01:17:38,934 --> 01:17:40,800
There might be
some small arms fire,
1434
01:17:40,867 --> 01:17:44,900
but recon shows
no antiaircraft
emplacements.
1435
01:17:47,734 --> 01:17:49,934
McNamara:
No MIGs in the area?
1436
01:17:50,000 --> 01:17:51,767
Colonel:
They'll be protecting
more valuable targets
1437
01:17:51,834 --> 01:17:54,133
and probably
won't risk losing them
defending this one.
1438
01:17:54,200 --> 01:17:56,600
Depending on cloud cover,
we may have to come in
low enough
1439
01:17:56,667 --> 01:17:59,767
to be in range of small arms,
but this is a small risk.
1440
01:17:59,834 --> 01:18:02,066
McNamara:
Give it an "A" for risk
to pilots and aircraft.
1441
01:18:02,133 --> 01:18:03,667
What's your
flash point analysis?
1442
01:18:03,734 --> 01:18:05,934
The target is more than
20 miles outside Hanoi,
1443
01:18:06,000 --> 01:18:09,200
so there's little risk
of provoking China or Russia.
1444
01:18:09,266 --> 01:18:12,166
McNamara:
Kosygin or Mao
won't be down there
1445
01:18:12,233 --> 01:18:14,633
touring the factory
that day, will they?
1446
01:18:14,700 --> 01:18:18,400
This isn't one
of Russia or China's
friendship projects?
1447
01:18:18,467 --> 01:18:20,767
Army Chief of Staff:
A gift from the motherland?
1448
01:18:20,834 --> 01:18:22,767
Colonel:
Well, if I were
Ho Chi Minh,
1449
01:18:22,834 --> 01:18:25,033
I would have
returned this gift.
1450
01:18:25,100 --> 01:18:26,834
Of course, catching
one of them there
1451
01:18:26,900 --> 01:18:28,800
might have been
a nice bonus for us.
1452
01:18:28,867 --> 01:18:30,667
McNamara:
Thanks, but I've already
been to the brink
1453
01:18:30,734 --> 01:18:34,233
of nuclear annihilation,
and I'm not eager to go back.
1454
01:18:36,100 --> 01:18:38,033
McNamara:
Give it an "A"
for flash point risk.
1455
01:18:38,100 --> 01:18:39,433
Next.
What about civilians?
1456
01:18:39,500 --> 01:18:41,266
Colonel:
We're clear
of residential,
1457
01:18:41,333 --> 01:18:43,734
except for one row of hooches
behind the facility.
1458
01:18:43,800 --> 01:18:46,834
So what are these, houses
or storage shacks or what?
1459
01:18:46,900 --> 01:18:49,166
Well, we can't be sure.
Uh...
1460
01:18:49,233 --> 01:18:50,767
Most likely
the factory managers
1461
01:18:50,834 --> 01:18:52,500
and their families
live there.
1462
01:18:52,567 --> 01:18:56,100
I'm not too familiar
with Southeast Asian
home construction, sir.
1463
01:18:58,800 --> 01:19:00,500
We can certainly use
someone who knows something
1464
01:19:00,567 --> 01:19:03,100
about Vietnamese culture
around here.
1465
01:19:05,767 --> 01:19:08,900
So, what's the outside
number of civilians?
1466
01:19:08,967 --> 01:19:13,033
Well, four hooches this size,
we use six per, so 24.
1467
01:19:15,166 --> 01:19:17,767
McNamara:
24 for a target this size?
That seems high.
1468
01:19:17,834 --> 01:19:20,433
Colonel:
That's how
we figure it, sir.
1469
01:19:20,500 --> 01:19:22,500
McNamara:
I mean, that seems
a high number to lose
1470
01:19:22,567 --> 01:19:24,000
for a target like this.
1471
01:19:24,066 --> 01:19:26,200
Give it a "D" for
civilian casualties.
1472
01:19:26,266 --> 01:19:29,800
Let's see what we've got.
C, A, A, D...
1473
01:19:29,867 --> 01:19:33,066
Let's give it a solid C-plus
and put it before
the president.
1474
01:19:33,133 --> 01:19:34,834
- All right, what's the--
- Jesus!
1475
01:19:34,900 --> 01:19:37,600
There's a guy on the wall
at the river entrance!
1476
01:19:44,000 --> 01:19:47,166
- Oh, my God.
- Hey, wait a minute!
Stop!
1477
01:19:50,233 --> 01:19:51,633
Don't! Don't!
1478
01:19:56,066 --> 01:19:58,934
- Hey, get down from there!
- Get off!
1479
01:19:59,000 --> 01:20:01,967
Please, please, the baby!
Stop! Stop!
1480
01:20:02,033 --> 01:20:05,500
Oh, God! Please!
1481
01:20:39,600 --> 01:20:40,867
Goodwin:
Yes, Mr. President.
1482
01:20:40,934 --> 01:20:42,734
Johnson on phone:
You wanted to see me?
1483
01:20:42,800 --> 01:20:45,934
- Goodwin: Yes, sir.
- You can come down now.
1484
01:21:50,200 --> 01:21:52,700
Yes, Dick?
1485
01:21:52,767 --> 01:21:57,100
Mr. President,
as, uh, Bill Moyers
told you,
1486
01:21:57,166 --> 01:21:58,600
I've been offered
a fellowship
1487
01:21:58,667 --> 01:22:00,967
at Wesleyan University
in Connecticut.
1488
01:22:01,033 --> 01:22:03,734
Well, good for you.
Ha! That ain't easy to get.
1489
01:22:03,800 --> 01:22:06,233
No. No, I'm very fortunate.
1490
01:22:06,300 --> 01:22:08,066
Well, don't wait too long
to turn them down
1491
01:22:08,133 --> 01:22:10,633
so they can call
the next guy on the list.
1492
01:22:11,900 --> 01:22:14,900
Mr. President,
I have already accepted.
1493
01:22:14,967 --> 01:22:17,867
No problem.
You didn't know
you weren't free to go.
1494
01:22:17,934 --> 01:22:20,266
Call 'em up.
Put me on if they
give you any trouble.
1495
01:22:20,333 --> 01:22:22,200
What do you mean,
I'm not free to go?
1496
01:22:22,266 --> 01:22:24,300
I mean you can't go.
1497
01:22:24,367 --> 01:22:26,200
I can't get along
without you.
1498
01:22:26,266 --> 01:22:27,934
That makes you
a pretty big fella.
1499
01:22:28,000 --> 01:22:30,300
How big a fella
are you gonna be
with some fellowship?
1500
01:22:30,367 --> 01:22:33,667
Well, you got along
without me before I came.
1501
01:22:36,500 --> 01:22:38,900
You want more money?
1502
01:22:38,967 --> 01:22:40,400
I got plenty of money.
1503
01:22:40,467 --> 01:22:42,934
I'll arrange a payment
from the Johnson Foundation.
1504
01:22:43,000 --> 01:22:45,433
Money isn't the issue,
Mr. President.
1505
01:22:45,500 --> 01:22:47,033
This is something
that I want to do.
1506
01:22:47,100 --> 01:22:48,834
Well, it ain't gonna be.
1507
01:22:48,900 --> 01:22:51,066
So make your call.
1508
01:22:56,800 --> 01:22:59,867
Mr. President, I, uh...
1509
01:22:59,934 --> 01:23:02,033
I'm very sorry.
1510
01:23:03,233 --> 01:23:07,667
Now, Dick, you either
stay here with me,
1511
01:23:07,734 --> 01:23:09,400
or you go over
to the Pentagon
1512
01:23:09,467 --> 01:23:11,767
and get yourself a pair
of shiny, black boots.
1513
01:23:11,834 --> 01:23:14,166
There's a statute.
I asked McNamara.
1514
01:23:14,233 --> 01:23:16,967
Says we can draft specialists
vital to the national interest,
1515
01:23:17,033 --> 01:23:19,400
and that's what I'll do.
1516
01:23:19,467 --> 01:23:21,600
If you won't serve here,
1517
01:23:21,667 --> 01:23:23,734
you know where
I can send you.
1518
01:23:23,800 --> 01:23:24,934
Will you make me a general?
1519
01:23:25,000 --> 01:23:26,867
Oh, you won't want
to be a general.
1520
01:23:26,934 --> 01:23:28,433
You'll want to be a private,
Marine infantry.
1521
01:23:28,500 --> 01:23:30,133
That's where the action is.
1522
01:23:30,200 --> 01:23:32,200
I know you like to be
around the action.
1523
01:23:32,266 --> 01:23:34,934
That's why you
stayed here so long.
1524
01:23:35,000 --> 01:23:38,533
Now, you listen to me, Dick.
1525
01:23:38,600 --> 01:23:43,000
You go ahead and take
your fellowship.
1526
01:23:44,400 --> 01:23:47,066
But your hands
are all over this.
1527
01:23:47,133 --> 01:23:49,467
You and Moyers and Bundy
and everybody else
1528
01:23:49,533 --> 01:23:52,000
talking about
jumping ship!
1529
01:23:52,066 --> 01:23:54,333
But most of all, you!
1530
01:23:54,400 --> 01:23:57,300
You put your name
all over the Great Society,
1531
01:23:57,367 --> 01:23:59,834
but you put the tune
to those words of war, too.
1532
01:23:59,900 --> 01:24:01,900
And hiding out
on some college campus
1533
01:24:01,967 --> 01:24:05,500
or anything else you ever do
is never gonna change that!
1534
01:24:05,567 --> 01:24:07,433
Dismissed!
1535
01:24:19,266 --> 01:24:21,633
Man:
An entire generation
of North Vietnamese
1536
01:24:21,700 --> 01:24:24,734
have been born
and lived and died
1537
01:24:24,800 --> 01:24:26,867
in the pursuit
of one thing:
1538
01:24:26,934 --> 01:24:30,533
a united Vietnam
under Communist rule.
1539
01:24:30,600 --> 01:24:32,133
The North Vietnamese
1540
01:24:32,200 --> 01:24:35,133
have never known
anything but war.
1541
01:24:35,200 --> 01:24:37,500
At CIA, we've just
completed a study
1542
01:24:37,567 --> 01:24:40,500
of their staggering
recuperative abilities.
1543
01:24:40,567 --> 01:24:42,500
Bridges.
1544
01:24:42,567 --> 01:24:45,600
This one was knocked out
in a morning raid.
1545
01:24:45,667 --> 01:24:48,300
Two hours later,
some bamboo planks
1546
01:24:48,367 --> 01:24:49,934
across a bunch
of wooden canal boats,
1547
01:24:50,000 --> 01:24:51,500
and there's
foot traffic again.
1548
01:24:51,567 --> 01:24:56,033
By 3:00 p.m.,
it's a pontoon bridge,
1549
01:24:56,100 --> 01:24:59,133
strong enough
for a fully loaded truck.
1550
01:24:59,200 --> 01:25:01,734
A bomb knocks out
a rail line,
1551
01:25:01,800 --> 01:25:04,500
they call up
the bicycle brigades.
1552
01:25:04,567 --> 01:25:06,500
500 men and women,
1553
01:25:06,567 --> 01:25:09,133
some as old as 70 or 75,
1554
01:25:09,200 --> 01:25:11,667
put the cargo
on their bikes.
1555
01:25:11,734 --> 01:25:15,333
Each one balances
up to a 600-pound load
across the frame,
1556
01:25:15,400 --> 01:25:17,100
they wheel it across
a jerry-rigged bridge
1557
01:25:17,166 --> 01:25:19,967
to another train
waiting to move it on south.
1558
01:25:20,033 --> 01:25:24,600
Filling a bomb crater to make
a road passable again.
1559
01:25:24,667 --> 01:25:26,367
That's as routine
to a school kid there
1560
01:25:26,433 --> 01:25:29,300
as getting a malt
down at the corner shop here.
1561
01:25:29,367 --> 01:25:31,567
It's a first date.
1562
01:25:31,633 --> 01:25:34,600
They have
a brand of cigarettes,
Mr. President,
1563
01:25:34,667 --> 01:25:36,700
called Dien Bien Phu.
1564
01:25:36,767 --> 01:25:39,734
That's their Yorktown,
their Waterloo,
1565
01:25:39,800 --> 01:25:42,900
where they defeated
the French in '54.
1566
01:25:42,967 --> 01:25:45,000
Man:
Reminders of war
1567
01:25:45,066 --> 01:25:47,467
are in the most casual moments
of daily life.
1568
01:25:47,533 --> 01:25:50,300
In a smoke,
Mr. President.
1569
01:25:50,367 --> 01:25:52,000
Their heroes,
1570
01:25:52,066 --> 01:25:54,667
the kid who was put to death
for trying to assassinate
1571
01:25:54,734 --> 01:25:57,967
Secretary McNamara
last year in Saigon.
1572
01:25:58,033 --> 01:26:00,233
There's a song about him.
1573
01:26:00,300 --> 01:26:01,800
It's a top ten hit.
1574
01:26:01,867 --> 01:26:05,033
And Norman Morrison.
1575
01:26:05,100 --> 01:26:06,600
Norman Morrison
was the Quaker
1576
01:26:06,667 --> 01:26:08,834
who burned himself
to death
1577
01:26:08,900 --> 01:26:11,934
in front of the Pentagon
last month.
1578
01:26:12,033 --> 01:26:15,133
A great hero.
1579
01:26:15,200 --> 01:26:17,967
Hanoi just issued
a postage stamp.
1580
01:26:18,033 --> 01:26:21,100
Thank you, John.
Thank you, Scott.
1581
01:26:21,166 --> 01:26:24,200
Johnson:
A great hero.
1582
01:26:24,266 --> 01:26:27,033
He almost took
his one-year-old daughter
with him.
1583
01:26:27,100 --> 01:26:29,100
A baby!
1584
01:26:29,166 --> 01:26:32,100
It's a miracle
she was unharmed.
1585
01:26:33,133 --> 01:26:34,967
The man was disturbed.
1586
01:26:35,033 --> 01:26:38,133
Three young children
are fatherless.
1587
01:26:42,500 --> 01:26:44,133
Hero.
1588
01:26:46,967 --> 01:26:49,166
So...
1589
01:26:49,233 --> 01:26:50,567
what do we do?
1590
01:26:51,800 --> 01:26:53,400
Mr. President,
1591
01:26:53,467 --> 01:26:55,133
the most strategic targets
in North Vietnam
1592
01:26:55,200 --> 01:26:59,133
remain intact because
Hanoi and Haiphong
1593
01:26:59,200 --> 01:27:00,700
continue to be off-limits.
1594
01:27:00,767 --> 01:27:04,200
We're not hitting
their oil supply,
major power plants,
1595
01:27:04,266 --> 01:27:05,667
rail links to China.
1596
01:27:05,734 --> 01:27:07,900
We're not mining the ports,
hitting the dikes--
1597
01:27:07,967 --> 01:27:11,133
CIA says hitting
the dikes would flood
the whole damn country!
1598
01:27:11,200 --> 01:27:13,200
Kill the rice crop!
Starve 'em to death!
1599
01:27:13,266 --> 01:27:14,233
Isn't that right?
1600
01:27:14,300 --> 01:27:15,967
Yes, sir.
1601
01:27:16,033 --> 01:27:18,633
And I have one more problem
for your big computer.
1602
01:27:18,700 --> 01:27:21,700
Ask how long it'll take
500,000 angry Americans
1603
01:27:21,767 --> 01:27:23,800
to climb that
White House wall
1604
01:27:23,867 --> 01:27:25,233
and lynch their president
1605
01:27:25,300 --> 01:27:26,567
if he does
something like that!
1606
01:27:26,633 --> 01:27:29,867
This is why the chiefs and I
have been urging for months
1607
01:27:29,934 --> 01:27:31,867
that we take the next
logical step
1608
01:27:31,934 --> 01:27:33,767
and destroy their
oil reserves.
1609
01:27:33,834 --> 01:27:35,800
Nothing stopped 'em yet.
Why should that stop 'em?
1610
01:27:35,867 --> 01:27:38,133
That oil goes in trucks,
Mr. President,
1611
01:27:38,200 --> 01:27:40,433
trucks that carry troops
and guns and bullets
1612
01:27:40,500 --> 01:27:42,500
across the border
to kill our men.
1613
01:27:42,567 --> 01:27:44,867
They don't need damn trucks!
1614
01:27:44,934 --> 01:27:45,967
Weren't you watching?
1615
01:27:46,033 --> 01:27:49,767
They got hundred-year-old women
hauling crap!
1616
01:27:49,834 --> 01:27:53,500
What do you want me to do,
kill everybody's grandmother
in that place?
1617
01:27:55,033 --> 01:27:57,834
Mr. President,
Ambassador Dobrynin says
1618
01:27:57,900 --> 01:28:00,934
that Moscow would try
to bring Hanoi to the table
1619
01:28:01,000 --> 01:28:02,600
if we stop the bombing
for three or four weeks.
1620
01:28:02,667 --> 01:28:05,767
This would be
a grave mistake,
Mr. President.
1621
01:28:05,834 --> 01:28:08,233
They'll send down
everything they can.
1622
01:28:08,300 --> 01:28:10,433
Westy's against it,
Admiral Sharp.
1623
01:28:10,500 --> 01:28:13,600
Bob, I know, opposes it
and every one of the chiefs.
1624
01:28:13,667 --> 01:28:15,633
Look...
1625
01:28:15,700 --> 01:28:17,934
the North Vietnamese have
nine regiments down there.
1626
01:28:18,000 --> 01:28:19,700
We thought they had three.
1627
01:28:19,767 --> 01:28:23,400
VC has more than doubled
theirs from five to 12,
1628
01:28:23,467 --> 01:28:25,500
which is twice
our buildup.
1629
01:28:25,567 --> 01:28:30,133
And I just feel that
we need to do something
1630
01:28:30,200 --> 01:28:33,033
before we send another
200,000 men over there.
1631
01:28:33,100 --> 01:28:36,934
Yes, Bob. We can try bombing
them where it hurts.
1632
01:28:37,000 --> 01:28:40,066
The enemy lost
over a thousand
1633
01:28:40,133 --> 01:28:41,867
in recent fighting,
didn't they?
1634
01:28:41,934 --> 01:28:43,934
They lost 1,200
in the Ia Drang Valley,
1635
01:28:44,000 --> 01:28:46,133
and we lost 300.
1636
01:28:46,200 --> 01:28:47,200
But it's clear
that they're willing
1637
01:28:47,266 --> 01:28:48,767
to take those kinds
of casualties,
1638
01:28:48,834 --> 01:28:51,000
which is something that
we were not counting on.
1639
01:28:51,066 --> 01:28:52,166
Some were not counting on.
1640
01:28:52,233 --> 01:28:54,934
Bob,
1641
01:28:55,000 --> 01:28:57,100
are you now saying
1642
01:28:57,166 --> 01:28:59,600
that no matter
what we do militarily,
1643
01:28:59,667 --> 01:29:01,700
there's no sure victory?
1644
01:29:01,767 --> 01:29:03,533
I believe
we may have been
1645
01:29:03,600 --> 01:29:05,667
overly optimistic
about an early end.
1646
01:29:05,734 --> 01:29:08,367
China, Russia, although they
do not want a general war,
1647
01:29:08,433 --> 01:29:10,300
have stepped up their aid.
1648
01:29:10,367 --> 01:29:12,000
Clark:
Just a moment, gentlemen.
1649
01:29:12,066 --> 01:29:15,066
The president undertook
this program
1650
01:29:15,133 --> 01:29:18,734
because General Westmoreland
was confident we could win.
1651
01:29:18,800 --> 01:29:21,900
Why are we considering
another 200,000
1652
01:29:21,967 --> 01:29:24,200
if you now believe victory
to be unlikely?
1653
01:29:24,266 --> 01:29:25,867
That's my question.
1654
01:29:25,934 --> 01:29:30,033
I still believe we can win.
1655
01:29:30,100 --> 01:29:33,700
But if there is the slightest
chance of obtaining a settlement
1656
01:29:33,767 --> 01:29:36,867
without sending over
hundreds of thousands more men
1657
01:29:36,934 --> 01:29:39,567
and hitting their cities,
1658
01:29:39,633 --> 01:29:41,633
I think we should do it.
1659
01:29:41,700 --> 01:29:44,567
Right now we are incurring
significant casualties.
1660
01:29:44,633 --> 01:29:45,567
If the buildup continues,
1661
01:29:45,633 --> 01:29:50,300
we may be facing
a thousand per month.
1662
01:29:50,367 --> 01:29:52,700
And if Hanoi won't talk,
1663
01:29:52,767 --> 01:29:54,600
it will only make
our position
1664
01:29:54,667 --> 01:29:56,767
with the American people
stronger,
1665
01:29:56,834 --> 01:29:59,433
and they will be more likely
to accept these kinds of losses.
1666
01:29:59,500 --> 01:30:01,633
Wheeler:
We could have a thousand
casualties a month
1667
01:30:01,700 --> 01:30:03,300
if we do this,
Mr. President!
1668
01:30:03,367 --> 01:30:06,266
It's my job to protect
our troops.
1669
01:30:06,333 --> 01:30:09,233
Every truck, every sampan
that gets through
1670
01:30:09,300 --> 01:30:11,033
means more dead Americans.
1671
01:30:11,100 --> 01:30:14,333
They'll send down missiles,
antiaircraft guns.
1672
01:30:14,400 --> 01:30:16,734
- It'll set us back a year!
- Wait a minute now.
1673
01:30:16,800 --> 01:30:18,633
Seems to me that
if we're this pessimistic,
1674
01:30:18,700 --> 01:30:20,233
winning battles yet
predicting stalemates
1675
01:30:20,300 --> 01:30:22,000
just five months
after going in,
1676
01:30:22,066 --> 01:30:23,767
we should pause the bombing
and see what results.
1677
01:30:23,834 --> 01:30:26,834
I'm sorry, George,
but I must disagree.
1678
01:30:26,900 --> 01:30:30,066
If we pause the bombing
and it fails,
1679
01:30:30,133 --> 01:30:32,667
the president will be
under irresistible pressure
1680
01:30:32,734 --> 01:30:37,066
from the right-wing hawks
in Congress to bomb Hanoi,
to bomb the Red River dikes.
1681
01:30:37,133 --> 01:30:42,133
That'll flood the country
and create a civilian disaster
of such magnitude.
1682
01:30:42,200 --> 01:30:45,200
I do not believe that
North Vietnam will talk
1683
01:30:45,266 --> 01:30:46,967
until they come
to the realization
1684
01:30:47,033 --> 01:30:49,433
that this will be a stalemate,
that they cannot win.
1685
01:30:49,500 --> 01:30:50,667
And they're not there.
1686
01:30:50,734 --> 01:30:52,333
Their unrelenting buildup
in the south
1687
01:30:52,400 --> 01:30:54,867
clearly indicates
that they believe they can win.
1688
01:30:54,934 --> 01:30:58,500
Are you now saying
that we have no choice
1689
01:30:58,567 --> 01:31:01,066
but to continue
to match 'em man for man?
1690
01:31:01,133 --> 01:31:04,667
Well, you made that decision,
Mr. President.
1691
01:31:04,734 --> 01:31:06,834
We are there.
1692
01:31:06,900 --> 01:31:10,867
You have convinced
the American people that
we should be there.
1693
01:31:10,934 --> 01:31:12,800
But I see no alternative
1694
01:31:12,867 --> 01:31:16,300
but for you to make
your best effort to win.
1695
01:31:16,367 --> 01:31:18,266
I couldn't believe my ears!
1696
01:31:18,333 --> 01:31:21,033
Clifford about-facing,
McNamara going soft!
1697
01:31:21,100 --> 01:31:23,600
Ha! They're all changing
their tune now.
1698
01:31:23,667 --> 01:31:26,066
And old George McBundy
got with the Soviet ambassador,
1699
01:31:26,133 --> 01:31:27,567
got a little vodka in him!
1700
01:31:27,633 --> 01:31:31,033
And those Harvard types
will believe anything
out of a diplomat!
1701
01:31:31,100 --> 01:31:33,767
I don't believe for a minute
that Moscow wants peace.
1702
01:31:33,834 --> 01:31:36,900
You don't have to
take his advice if you
believe it will fail.
1703
01:31:36,967 --> 01:31:38,333
Don't you know anything?
1704
01:31:38,400 --> 01:31:39,700
Don't you know if I don't
call off the bombing,
1705
01:31:39,767 --> 01:31:42,367
the Kennedys will shout
from the mountaintops
1706
01:31:42,433 --> 01:31:44,900
that the Russians offered
a big, fat olive branch
1707
01:31:44,967 --> 01:31:46,900
and I snapped it in two?
1708
01:31:46,967 --> 01:31:50,800
And now I've missed
my chance for peace!
1709
01:31:58,033 --> 01:32:00,700
So how's
academic life?
1710
01:32:00,767 --> 01:32:02,600
Not nearly as challenging.
1711
01:32:02,667 --> 01:32:06,400
But I can say I've been
getting a lot more sleep.
1712
01:32:06,467 --> 01:32:10,700
Well, someone has
to deal with these things.
1713
01:32:10,767 --> 01:32:13,633
You certainly have
the floor space.
1714
01:32:13,700 --> 01:32:16,934
That I do.
That I do.
1715
01:32:20,200 --> 01:32:23,200
You know the guy
in that portrait?
1716
01:32:23,266 --> 01:32:24,567
James Forrestal.
1717
01:32:24,633 --> 01:32:26,033
That's right.
1718
01:32:26,100 --> 01:32:29,033
Truman's secretary
of defense.
1719
01:32:29,100 --> 01:32:31,166
Guy went absolutely nuts.
1720
01:32:31,233 --> 01:32:34,166
When Truman finally
got rid of him,
1721
01:32:34,233 --> 01:32:36,533
he pinned him
with a service medal.
1722
01:32:36,600 --> 01:32:40,467
He just stood there mute,
his throat clamped.
1723
01:32:40,533 --> 01:32:44,200
God knows what demons
going through his mind.
1724
01:32:44,266 --> 01:32:46,000
A couple days later,
1725
01:32:46,066 --> 01:32:49,100
he jumped out
of the 16th floor
of Bethesda Naval.
1726
01:32:54,667 --> 01:32:59,066
Sometimes you can
wrestle too much.
1727
01:32:59,133 --> 01:33:02,133
Bob,
1728
01:33:02,200 --> 01:33:03,867
we both came in
with Jack Kennedy.
1729
01:33:03,934 --> 01:33:05,300
We were around
when this started.
1730
01:33:05,367 --> 01:33:06,567
Vietnam started
with Eisenhower,
1731
01:33:06,633 --> 01:33:08,367
and neither of us
were here.
1732
01:33:08,433 --> 01:33:11,367
I know, and it was Kennedy
who put in all those
so-called advisors,
1733
01:33:11,433 --> 01:33:12,967
but I can't believe
that had he lived,
1734
01:33:13,033 --> 01:33:14,300
we'd be in this ditch.
1735
01:33:14,367 --> 01:33:15,867
You sound like you've been
talking to Bobby.
1736
01:33:15,934 --> 01:33:18,567
He's your friend.
What's he been telling you?
1737
01:33:18,633 --> 01:33:23,367
If you told the president
to stop the bombing,
1738
01:33:23,433 --> 01:33:24,767
he'd stop it.
1739
01:33:24,834 --> 01:33:27,533
We have stopped the bombing,
under my recommendation.
1740
01:33:27,600 --> 01:33:29,433
You've paused it.
1741
01:33:29,500 --> 01:33:33,000
Hanoi knows that
you're gonna start up again
if they don't agree to talk.
1742
01:33:33,066 --> 01:33:34,633
And they have said
a hundred times
1743
01:33:34,700 --> 01:33:36,166
they won't
knuckle under to that.
1744
01:33:36,233 --> 01:33:38,033
Now, if you told
the president
1745
01:33:38,100 --> 01:33:39,633
that you no longer believe
the bombing can work--
1746
01:33:39,700 --> 01:33:41,600
I never said I believed that.
1747
01:33:41,667 --> 01:33:44,000
Bobby says you told him
it's not worth a damn.
1748
01:33:44,066 --> 01:33:46,166
Well, that's between
Bobby and me.
1749
01:33:46,233 --> 01:33:48,500
And as far as my influence with
the president is concerned,
1750
01:33:48,567 --> 01:33:50,166
I think you
overestimate my pull.
1751
01:33:50,233 --> 01:33:53,333
I don't see
how that's possible.
1752
01:33:53,400 --> 01:33:56,567
Peace talks.
1753
01:33:56,633 --> 01:33:59,300
That's the only way
out of this thing now.
1754
01:34:04,133 --> 01:34:08,000
You stop the bombing
for 30 days.
1755
01:34:08,066 --> 01:34:10,633
The brass is ready
to hang me.
1756
01:34:10,700 --> 01:34:14,867
God, I sure hope Hanoi wants
to take the bait because...
1757
01:34:19,100 --> 01:34:22,100
I just don't think we're going
to be able to beat these people.
1758
01:34:24,600 --> 01:34:27,834
So are you going public
with your views?
1759
01:34:36,100 --> 01:34:37,633
I'm thinking about it.
1760
01:34:41,233 --> 01:34:44,066
Well, you are free to
do that now, aren't you?
1761
01:34:55,367 --> 01:34:56,800
Is that where
it happened?
1762
01:34:56,867 --> 01:34:59,834
Yep.
1763
01:35:01,700 --> 01:35:03,333
Incredible.
1764
01:35:06,133 --> 01:35:09,300
Absolutely incredible.
1765
01:35:09,367 --> 01:35:11,567
Johnson:
For 20 days now,
1766
01:35:11,633 --> 01:35:13,600
we and our South Vietnamese
allies
1767
01:35:13,667 --> 01:35:17,266
have dropped no bombs
on North Vietnam.
1768
01:35:17,333 --> 01:35:22,200
We seek neither territory
nor bases,
1769
01:35:22,266 --> 01:35:27,266
economic domination or
military alliance in Vietnam.
1770
01:35:27,333 --> 01:35:30,467
We fight for the principle of
self-determination,
1771
01:35:30,533 --> 01:35:32,266
for the people
of South Vietnam
1772
01:35:32,333 --> 01:35:36,200
to be able to choose
their own course,
1773
01:35:36,266 --> 01:35:40,800
choose it in free elections
without violence,
1774
01:35:40,867 --> 01:35:45,233
without terror
and without fear.
1775
01:35:52,467 --> 01:35:54,900
We have said all this,
1776
01:35:54,967 --> 01:35:58,166
and we have asked and hoped,
1777
01:35:58,233 --> 01:36:01,967
and we have waited
for a response.
1778
01:36:02,033 --> 01:36:04,033
None has come.
1779
01:36:04,100 --> 01:36:08,800
I believe that we can continue
the Great Society
1780
01:36:08,867 --> 01:36:11,400
while we fight in
Vietnam.
1781
01:36:11,467 --> 01:36:15,066
Yet there are those
who cry out,
1782
01:36:15,133 --> 01:36:17,233
"We must sacrifice."
1783
01:36:17,300 --> 01:36:19,834
Well, let us rather ask them,
1784
01:36:19,900 --> 01:36:21,834
"Who will they sacrifice?"
1785
01:36:21,900 --> 01:36:25,400
Are they gonna sacrifice
the children
1786
01:36:25,467 --> 01:36:27,133
who seek their learning
1787
01:36:27,200 --> 01:36:30,266
or the sick who need
medical care
1788
01:36:30,333 --> 01:36:33,133
or the families that dwell
in squalor
1789
01:36:33,200 --> 01:36:36,633
now brightened by the hope
of home?
1790
01:36:36,700 --> 01:36:41,033
Will they sacrifice opportunity
for the distressed,
1791
01:36:41,100 --> 01:36:46,266
the beauty of our land and the
hope of our poor?
1792
01:36:58,533 --> 01:37:01,700
"Vietnam has been fighting
for its independence for
4,000 years.
1793
01:37:01,767 --> 01:37:03,867
"We have defeated the Mongols
three times,
1794
01:37:03,934 --> 01:37:07,000
"and despite all of his bluster
and all his bombs,
1795
01:37:07,066 --> 01:37:11,633
Emperor Johnson is not nearly
as terrifying as Genghis Khan."
1796
01:37:13,600 --> 01:37:16,800
Ho Chi Minh's statement over
Hanoi radio this morning.
1797
01:37:22,200 --> 01:37:25,200
37 days.
1798
01:37:25,266 --> 01:37:28,066
37 days now.
1799
01:37:28,133 --> 01:37:30,400
Not one bomb has fallen.
1800
01:37:31,667 --> 01:37:34,066
This is our answer.
1801
01:37:34,133 --> 01:37:37,100
This is our answer.
1802
01:37:41,567 --> 01:37:43,400
What now, Bob?
1803
01:37:48,233 --> 01:37:51,967
Hanoi and Haiphong harbor.
1804
01:37:52,033 --> 01:37:55,734
As you can see, they're in
very concentrated areas.
1805
01:37:55,800 --> 01:37:57,467
The tanks and refineries
1806
01:37:57,533 --> 01:38:00,967
are within a short distance
of residential sections.
1807
01:38:01,033 --> 01:38:02,734
What about the Russian
oil ships?
1808
01:38:02,800 --> 01:38:05,867
They off-load
with a 250-foot
floating pipeline.
1809
01:38:05,934 --> 01:38:08,900
That's why we're targeting
the distribution tanks,
1810
01:38:08,967 --> 01:38:11,300
some 1,500 feet
from the vessels.
1811
01:38:11,367 --> 01:38:13,633
But still quite close
to the residential areas.
1812
01:38:13,700 --> 01:38:15,567
That's correct.
1813
01:38:15,633 --> 01:38:17,166
And I understand that they
purposely situate
1814
01:38:17,233 --> 01:38:19,533
strategic targets close
to neighborhoods.
1815
01:38:19,600 --> 01:38:21,367
What about those ships?
Can they shoot back?
1816
01:38:21,433 --> 01:38:24,633
No, sir.
They're unarmed.
1817
01:38:24,700 --> 01:38:27,467
But the tanks are protected
by surface-to-air missiles.
1818
01:38:27,533 --> 01:38:30,533
The Russians sent them down
during the bombing pause.
1819
01:38:30,600 --> 01:38:32,533
How many planes
will we lose?
1820
01:38:32,600 --> 01:38:35,166
20 to 25.
1821
01:38:35,233 --> 01:38:38,200
- How many casualties?
- 50.
1822
01:38:38,266 --> 01:38:40,800
50 to 300
is my estimate.
1823
01:38:40,867 --> 01:38:42,333
And if the bombs miss,
1824
01:38:42,400 --> 01:38:44,166
it could go as high
as 12,000,
1825
01:38:44,233 --> 01:38:46,100
with 50% of these
civilians
1826
01:38:46,166 --> 01:38:48,133
and 50% of those killed.
1827
01:38:48,200 --> 01:38:51,700
Of course, we don't plan our
strikes to miss our targets.
1828
01:38:54,633 --> 01:38:57,367
But they do miss sometimes.
1829
01:38:57,433 --> 01:39:00,400
And this time you could hit
a Russian ship.
1830
01:39:00,467 --> 01:39:03,467
And the bomber pilot,
it'll be a kid from
Johnson City, Texas.
1831
01:39:03,533 --> 01:39:06,266
And that'll be the kid that
starts World War III.
1832
01:39:06,333 --> 01:39:09,266
Thank you very much.
1833
01:39:09,333 --> 01:39:10,734
All right.
1834
01:39:12,266 --> 01:39:15,266
So what great things will
result from this plan?
1835
01:39:15,333 --> 01:39:16,834
With no oil,
1836
01:39:16,900 --> 01:39:18,700
their entire infiltration
effort
1837
01:39:18,767 --> 01:39:19,800
will grind to a halt,
1838
01:39:19,867 --> 01:39:22,266
from manufacturing to
transportation.
1839
01:39:22,333 --> 01:39:25,133
Their war-making capability
will be destroyed,
1840
01:39:25,200 --> 01:39:27,133
and they will have to
negotiate.
1841
01:39:29,266 --> 01:39:30,400
Dean?
1842
01:39:33,567 --> 01:39:37,133
The Chinese and Soviets
will step up aid.
1843
01:39:37,200 --> 01:39:40,500
And we could lose the support
of Canada, Japan,
1844
01:39:40,567 --> 01:39:43,767
and the Chinese representation
issue at the UN.
1845
01:39:43,834 --> 01:39:47,367
If a Russian ship is sunk,
1846
01:39:47,433 --> 01:39:49,667
we just don't know.
1847
01:39:49,734 --> 01:39:53,533
The Chinese may
send in troops.
1848
01:39:53,600 --> 01:39:56,633
But as Bus said,
this could end it.
1849
01:39:56,700 --> 01:39:58,033
What if it doesn't?
1850
01:39:58,100 --> 01:39:59,667
What if, by God's grace,
1851
01:39:59,734 --> 01:40:02,066
we don't have a million Chinese
and nuclear war?
1852
01:40:02,133 --> 01:40:04,033
They still won't quit?
1853
01:40:04,100 --> 01:40:05,266
What will you be asking me
to hit next?
1854
01:40:05,333 --> 01:40:10,533
Strategic targets closer to
the center of Hanoi.
1855
01:40:10,600 --> 01:40:12,000
The Paul Doumer Bridge.
1856
01:40:12,066 --> 01:40:15,400
Four major rail lines
cross it.
1857
01:40:15,467 --> 01:40:17,567
The power plant, industry,
1858
01:40:17,633 --> 01:40:21,200
all within five miles
of downtown.
1859
01:40:24,200 --> 01:40:25,734
Bob,
1860
01:40:25,800 --> 01:40:27,667
are you for this?
1861
01:40:30,166 --> 01:40:31,667
It might work.
1862
01:40:31,734 --> 01:40:33,567
So you're for it.
1863
01:40:33,633 --> 01:40:36,000
- Uh, Mr. President.
- Walt?
1864
01:40:36,066 --> 01:40:39,033
Since taking over
for Mac Bundy,
1865
01:40:39,100 --> 01:40:41,467
I've had a chance to
evaluate our bombing policy,
1866
01:40:41,533 --> 01:40:43,266
and, uh, well,
I believe that
1867
01:40:43,333 --> 01:40:45,567
our continued delay
in attacking Hanoi
1868
01:40:45,633 --> 01:40:48,734
is causing Russia and China
to underestimate our resolve
1869
01:40:48,800 --> 01:40:52,600
and that that may actually
encourage World War III.
1870
01:40:55,500 --> 01:40:58,333
Clark?
1871
01:40:58,400 --> 01:41:01,934
As always, I support
any measure
1872
01:41:02,000 --> 01:41:04,200
that has a chance of
ending this.
1873
01:41:07,133 --> 01:41:09,900
Anyone else?
1874
01:41:09,967 --> 01:41:12,900
George? Nothing to add?
1875
01:41:16,066 --> 01:41:18,066
This will not affect
North Vietnamese manpower,
1876
01:41:18,133 --> 01:41:19,433
which has proved to be
limitless.
1877
01:41:19,500 --> 01:41:23,133
It will be hard for the Russians
and the Chinese to take.
1878
01:41:23,200 --> 01:41:24,533
I'm concerned, as always,
1879
01:41:24,600 --> 01:41:26,133
about the escalating level
of violence,
1880
01:41:26,200 --> 01:41:30,233
but maybe this will finally
satisfy the hawks in Congress.
1881
01:41:30,300 --> 01:41:31,900
If we have to do it,
let's do it now.
1882
01:41:31,967 --> 01:41:33,333
You know, George,
1883
01:41:33,400 --> 01:41:36,734
you remind me of
a country schoolteacher.
1884
01:41:36,800 --> 01:41:39,000
Asked if he believes the world
is flat or round,
1885
01:41:39,066 --> 01:41:42,767
he says, "I can teach it
either way."
1886
01:41:42,834 --> 01:41:44,934
Hmph.
1887
01:41:45,000 --> 01:41:46,133
Hmph.
1888
01:41:49,200 --> 01:41:50,767
How soon do we go?
1889
01:41:50,834 --> 01:41:53,033
( piano playing,
people chatting )
1890
01:41:57,967 --> 01:41:59,600
It's the same as mine,
you know.
1891
01:41:59,667 --> 01:42:02,567
I'd just as soon forget
about those 13 days.
1892
01:42:02,633 --> 01:42:04,633
He had them made
at Tiffany's, didn't he?
1893
01:42:04,700 --> 01:42:06,266
He gave one to Jackie, too.
1894
01:42:06,333 --> 01:42:08,166
She joked it's the only thing
he ever gave her from there
1895
01:42:08,233 --> 01:42:10,633
that wasn't ordered straight
out of their catalog.
1896
01:42:12,867 --> 01:42:13,967
A trying time.
1897
01:42:14,033 --> 01:42:15,166
You speak as if
it's in the past.
1898
01:42:15,233 --> 01:42:16,734
What?
1899
01:42:16,800 --> 01:42:20,533
The trying time.
1900
01:42:23,467 --> 01:42:24,967
Thank you.
1901
01:42:33,667 --> 01:42:36,400
Dick. Clark.
1902
01:42:36,467 --> 01:42:38,500
...Johnson wasn't much
of a poker player,
1903
01:42:38,567 --> 01:42:41,767
but he loved
the political conversation.
1904
01:42:41,834 --> 01:42:43,467
Can a whiskey
convert a man, Clark?
1905
01:42:47,800 --> 01:42:49,266
Look at 'em.
1906
01:42:49,333 --> 01:42:51,767
You know what they
remind me of?
1907
01:42:51,834 --> 01:42:53,567
A flock of buzzards
sitting on a fence
1908
01:42:53,633 --> 01:42:55,767
discussing the price
of carrion.
1909
01:42:55,834 --> 01:42:58,066
Buzzards.
George.
1910
01:42:58,133 --> 01:43:00,700
You could have had Bundy's job.
What was it, Clark?
1911
01:43:00,767 --> 01:43:01,800
You haven't socked away
enough dough yet?
1912
01:43:01,867 --> 01:43:04,200
Oh, that's unbecoming
of you, George.
1913
01:43:04,266 --> 01:43:05,667
The basement office? What?
1914
01:43:05,734 --> 01:43:07,567
You know I'd lose
my freedom
1915
01:43:07,633 --> 01:43:09,600
to advise him
on his presidency
1916
01:43:09,667 --> 01:43:11,967
if I took a cabinet post.
1917
01:43:12,033 --> 01:43:14,934
George, the president
wants to get out of Vietnam
1918
01:43:15,000 --> 01:43:17,600
just as much as you do,
in principle.
1919
01:43:17,667 --> 01:43:18,834
Principle?
1920
01:43:18,900 --> 01:43:20,467
There's a word that's been
tossed about
1921
01:43:20,533 --> 01:43:22,400
more than a dollar whore
in a port of call.
1922
01:43:22,467 --> 01:43:23,934
How's this for
principle:
1923
01:43:24,000 --> 01:43:27,033
"150 more killed last week.
What a waste."
1924
01:43:27,100 --> 01:43:28,266
You know who said that?
1925
01:43:28,333 --> 01:43:29,734
No.
1926
01:43:29,800 --> 01:43:31,400
McNamara. To me.
1927
01:43:31,467 --> 01:43:33,467
For all the principle
around here,
1928
01:43:33,533 --> 01:43:36,266
we're in one hell of a mess,
don't you think?
1929
01:43:37,700 --> 01:43:39,567
Look at him.
1930
01:43:39,633 --> 01:43:42,767
His wife's got an ulcer,
his kid's got an ulcer.
1931
01:43:42,834 --> 01:43:47,734
Everybody's got Bob McNamara's
ulcer but Bob McNamara.
1932
01:43:47,800 --> 01:43:51,333
Sometimes I think
it's all just a goddamn
academic exercise to him.
1933
01:43:51,400 --> 01:43:52,700
George,
1934
01:43:52,767 --> 01:43:55,700
you mustn't give up
on this, George.
1935
01:43:55,767 --> 01:43:58,467
Oh, Christ, Clark!
1936
01:43:58,533 --> 01:43:59,934
Marny.
1937
01:44:00,033 --> 01:44:01,934
George.
1938
01:44:02,000 --> 01:44:04,033
Good evening,
Mr. and Mrs. Clifford.
How are you?
1939
01:44:04,100 --> 01:44:05,066
We're fine, dear.
1940
01:44:05,133 --> 01:44:06,467
I'd like you
to meet Charles Robb.
1941
01:44:06,533 --> 01:44:07,867
Clark Clifford.
1942
01:44:07,934 --> 01:44:09,767
Anyone who still thinks we
ought to be in Vietnam
1943
01:44:09,834 --> 01:44:11,367
should take a detour from
work and drive by
1944
01:44:11,433 --> 01:44:13,567
Arlington Cemetery every day
for a week.
1945
01:44:13,633 --> 01:44:14,867
I don't think
I'd trust anyone
1946
01:44:14,934 --> 01:44:17,033
in a policy-making position
to do that.
1947
01:44:17,100 --> 01:44:18,934
To do what, Bob?
1948
01:44:19,000 --> 01:44:20,533
To face the
consequences of his counsel?
1949
01:44:20,600 --> 01:44:23,433
Who needed a reminder
of what war was all about?
1950
01:44:23,500 --> 01:44:24,600
A reminder of what?
1951
01:44:24,667 --> 01:44:27,066
Our jobs in World War II,
in the rear?
1952
01:44:27,133 --> 01:44:29,166
I pushed paper
just like you, Walt.
1953
01:44:29,233 --> 01:44:30,633
We were all
too damn smart.
1954
01:44:30,700 --> 01:44:33,000
I must've been sitting on my
brains, then, up in that B-25.
1955
01:44:33,066 --> 01:44:35,166
Two years in prison camps.
1956
01:44:35,233 --> 01:44:37,133
That's right. Nick's the only
one here who saw combat.
1957
01:44:37,200 --> 01:44:38,967
You were probably picking
his targets, Walt.
1958
01:44:39,033 --> 01:44:41,467
As I remember,
we won that war.
1959
01:44:41,533 --> 01:44:42,967
Yeah, well, you can tell that
to the 50,000
1960
01:44:43,033 --> 01:44:44,467
dead men, women,
and children of Dresden.
1961
01:44:44,533 --> 01:44:46,600
- Dresden--
- Is anyone ready for dinner?
1962
01:44:46,667 --> 01:44:49,266
Dresden was bombed
for the rail lines.
1963
01:44:49,333 --> 01:44:51,967
Dresden was bombed to terrorize
the hell out of those people,
1964
01:44:52,033 --> 01:44:54,867
which is precisely what our
B-52s are doing in Vietnam.
1965
01:44:54,934 --> 01:44:56,967
And if this keeps up,
in another year,
1966
01:44:57,033 --> 01:44:58,767
we'll have dropped more there
than on all of Europe.
1967
01:44:58,834 --> 01:44:59,734
Isn't that right, Bob?
1968
01:44:59,800 --> 01:45:02,033
Let's go inside, darling.
1969
01:45:02,100 --> 01:45:04,600
Isn't that what you told me
the other day? In private?
1970
01:45:04,667 --> 01:45:06,500
Among some other things?
1971
01:45:06,567 --> 01:45:09,100
Such as the fact that
we've destroyed so much
of that country,
1972
01:45:09,166 --> 01:45:12,400
they can't even grow
enough rice to feed themselves,
the rice bowl of the world.
1973
01:45:12,467 --> 01:45:14,834
- George.
- We've created
so many refugees
1974
01:45:14,900 --> 01:45:16,066
that if we had
the same proportion
1975
01:45:16,133 --> 01:45:17,333
out of their homes
in this country,
1976
01:45:17,400 --> 01:45:19,467
there'd be 30 million people
on the streets.
1977
01:45:19,533 --> 01:45:20,567
Isn't that right?
1978
01:45:20,633 --> 01:45:23,567
Bob? Isn't that
what you said?
1979
01:45:25,000 --> 01:45:27,266
What was it Tacitus said about
the Romans at Carthage?
1980
01:45:30,900 --> 01:45:34,633
You have made a desert
and call it peace.
1981
01:45:39,767 --> 01:45:42,734
If you still can't reach him,
then get whosever on call.
1982
01:45:42,800 --> 01:45:44,367
We need a doctor here.
1983
01:45:45,767 --> 01:45:46,867
Christ, Marny.
1984
01:45:46,934 --> 01:45:49,166
I'll be all right.
It was the liquor.
1985
01:45:52,767 --> 01:45:54,166
Hello.
1986
01:45:54,233 --> 01:45:56,433
Mr. Secretary,
it's Major Wolfson
of the Command Center.
1987
01:45:56,500 --> 01:45:57,800
We just got a call
from CINCPAC
1988
01:45:57,867 --> 01:45:59,600
saying the weather
around Hanoi has cleared
1989
01:45:59,667 --> 01:46:02,133
and the fighter-bombers
are on their way.
1990
01:46:08,166 --> 01:46:09,734
Bob, it's me.
1991
01:46:09,800 --> 01:46:12,066
McNamara:
Mr. President,
the operations we discussed
1992
01:46:12,133 --> 01:46:13,700
will be going tonight.
1993
01:46:13,767 --> 01:46:16,266
They have perfect conditions.
1994
01:46:16,333 --> 01:46:17,867
Now-now, Bob,
1995
01:46:17,934 --> 01:46:20,467
these-these-these pilots
1996
01:46:20,533 --> 01:46:22,166
are said to be
the cream.
1997
01:46:22,233 --> 01:46:25,266
They're the best the Navy and
Air Force have, Mr. President,
1998
01:46:25,333 --> 01:46:27,967
and they know you're
counting on them.
1999
01:46:28,033 --> 01:46:29,333
All right, Bob.
Thank you.
2000
01:46:29,400 --> 01:46:31,967
I'm going to
the Pentagon now.
2001
01:46:32,033 --> 01:46:34,266
I'll call as soon as I have
word, Mr. President.
2002
01:46:34,333 --> 01:46:36,166
Thank you.
2003
01:46:44,433 --> 01:46:47,500
Forgive me for
ventilating so freely.
2004
01:46:47,567 --> 01:46:48,767
I believe that you are
only so worried
2005
01:46:48,834 --> 01:46:49,867
because you feel foolish
2006
01:46:49,934 --> 01:46:52,967
having waited so long
to take this action.
2007
01:46:53,033 --> 01:46:55,066
If you did it a year ago,
2008
01:46:55,133 --> 01:46:57,266
instead of using kid gloves
2009
01:46:57,333 --> 01:46:59,934
and giving them an extra month
in which to resupply,
2010
01:47:00,000 --> 01:47:01,867
it would have followed
quite naturally.
2011
01:47:01,934 --> 01:47:04,266
But now it seems to you
like one step too many.
2012
01:47:04,333 --> 01:47:06,867
The problem is,
my good sir,
2013
01:47:06,934 --> 01:47:10,333
each step has been
inches instead of yards.
2014
01:47:10,400 --> 01:47:13,533
We have been going to war
by inches!
2015
01:47:13,600 --> 01:47:15,633
Tiptoeing apologetically
2016
01:47:15,700 --> 01:47:18,166
when we should be
striding through
2017
01:47:18,233 --> 01:47:21,834
with our heads held high
like Americans!
2018
01:47:22,900 --> 01:47:26,500
Why don't we hear from 'em?!
2019
01:47:33,567 --> 01:47:35,834
Yeah. Bob.
2020
01:47:35,900 --> 01:47:39,066
McNamara:
Mr. President,
they had some weather.
2021
01:47:39,133 --> 01:47:40,567
You said it was clear!
2022
01:47:40,633 --> 01:47:43,000
I'll call you the moment
I know anything.
2023
01:47:43,066 --> 01:47:44,100
Johnson:
Bob...
2024
01:47:44,166 --> 01:47:46,133
my life's in
your hands here.
2025
01:47:46,200 --> 01:47:49,400
Yes, sir.
2026
01:49:56,934 --> 01:49:59,300
Our Father...
2027
01:50:01,300 --> 01:50:03,433
Our Father...
2028
01:50:05,400 --> 01:50:06,867
Our Father...
2029
01:50:06,934 --> 01:50:09,567
who art in heaven...
2030
01:50:09,633 --> 01:50:11,433
Who art in heaven.
2031
01:50:11,500 --> 01:50:13,367
Hallowed be thy name.
2032
01:50:13,433 --> 01:50:16,433
Johnson:
Hallowed be thy name.
2033
01:50:16,500 --> 01:50:17,567
Well, if you admit her,
2034
01:50:17,633 --> 01:50:19,200
you could run some tests
on her, can't you?
2035
01:50:19,266 --> 01:50:20,467
God damn it--
2036
01:50:20,533 --> 01:50:22,000
Officer:
Mr. Secretary,
Exec-com on one.
2037
01:50:22,066 --> 01:50:25,567
You can see there that she's
in a hell of a lot of pain.
2038
01:50:25,633 --> 01:50:28,600
- Thy kingdom come.
- Thy kingdom come.
2039
01:50:28,667 --> 01:50:30,333
Pastor:
Thy will be done.
2040
01:50:36,367 --> 01:50:38,133
I'm sorry.
2041
01:50:38,200 --> 01:50:40,367
- On earth...
- I'm sorry.
2042
01:50:40,433 --> 01:50:42,133
- On earth...
- On earth...
2043
01:50:42,200 --> 01:50:46,433
- As it is in heaven.
- As it is in heaven.
2044
01:50:49,033 --> 01:50:52,200
- Give us this day...
- Give us this day...
2045
01:50:52,266 --> 01:50:56,333
- ...our daily bread.
- ...our daily bread.
2046
01:50:56,400 --> 01:50:59,600
Pastor:
And forgive us our trespasses.
2047
01:50:59,667 --> 01:51:02,233
Johnson:
And forgive us our trespasses.
2048
01:51:02,300 --> 01:51:05,934
Pastor:
As we forgive those
who trespass against us.
2049
01:51:06,000 --> 01:51:09,934
As we forgive those who
trespass against us.
2050
01:51:10,000 --> 01:51:12,667
Pastor:
Lead us not into temptation.
2051
01:51:12,734 --> 01:51:15,333
Johnson:
Lead us not into temptation.
2052
01:51:15,400 --> 01:51:19,700
But deliver us
from evil.
2053
01:51:21,800 --> 01:51:23,333
Deliver us from evil.
2054
01:51:23,400 --> 01:51:24,700
Pastor:
Amen.
2055
01:51:24,767 --> 01:51:26,133
Johnson:
Amen.
2056
01:51:53,266 --> 01:51:56,166
( voice on walkie-talkie,
indistinct )
2057
01:52:12,767 --> 01:52:14,000
Go ahead.
2058
01:52:14,066 --> 01:52:16,433
Mr. President, I just
talked with Honolulu.
2059
01:52:16,500 --> 01:52:20,600
All the primaries were hit,
and no ships were struck.
2060
01:52:20,667 --> 01:52:25,066
Now, we did lose
two aircraft to antiair.
2061
01:52:25,133 --> 01:52:26,166
No Russian ships?
2062
01:52:26,233 --> 01:52:28,433
We didn't hit any
Russian ships?
2063
01:52:28,500 --> 01:52:32,400
No, but as I say,
two pilots are down.
2064
01:52:32,467 --> 01:52:35,033
I won't know about
civilian causalities
until we have the photos.
2065
01:52:35,100 --> 01:52:38,300
Now, if the weather holds,
we can send the RFs in
2066
01:52:38,367 --> 01:52:39,800
to see just what
collateral damage--
2067
01:52:39,867 --> 01:52:41,567
All right, Bob.
Thank you.
2068
01:52:41,633 --> 01:52:43,934
Thank you.
2069
01:52:46,767 --> 01:52:49,433
Man, on TV:
Pentagon sources
tell "CBS News"
2070
01:52:49,500 --> 01:52:51,200
that General Westmoreland
has been granted
2071
01:52:51,266 --> 01:52:54,033
even great authority
over the use of B-52s
2072
01:52:54,100 --> 01:52:57,367
in Vietcong-controlled areas
in the south.
2073
01:52:57,433 --> 01:53:00,266
With the recent escalation of
bombing over North Vietnam
2074
01:53:00,333 --> 01:53:02,600
aimed at destroying
the heart of the enemy's
2075
01:53:02,667 --> 01:53:04,867
urban industrial capacity,
2076
01:53:04,934 --> 01:53:06,834
the U.S. clearly wants
to force a change
2077
01:53:06,900 --> 01:53:09,467
in Hanoi's will
to continue the war.
2078
01:53:09,533 --> 01:53:12,467
Last year, the rate of
Rolling Thunder missions flown
2079
01:53:12,533 --> 01:53:15,100
reached 1,500 per week.
2080
01:53:15,166 --> 01:53:17,500
Since then the rate of
sorties has doubled.
2081
01:53:17,567 --> 01:53:20,367
Mr. President, it appears
that the air strikes
2082
01:53:20,433 --> 01:53:24,467
have had no effect on
the enemy's war-making
capability.
2083
01:53:24,533 --> 01:53:26,467
The attacks were
not successful?
2084
01:53:26,533 --> 01:53:29,333
Well, while we did
destroy nearly 100%
2085
01:53:29,400 --> 01:53:31,300
of their oil storage
capacity
2086
01:53:31,367 --> 01:53:34,734
in our follow-up attacks
throughout the summer,
2087
01:53:34,800 --> 01:53:37,233
a large portion of their
stock was put into barrels
2088
01:53:37,300 --> 01:53:39,867
and dispersed in anticipation
of our strikes.
2089
01:53:39,934 --> 01:53:42,500
They've retained enough to
meet ongoing requirements.
2090
01:53:42,567 --> 01:53:44,467
Their buildup
is continuing.
2091
01:53:44,533 --> 01:53:47,700
And Westmoreland is
requesting additional men.
2092
01:53:47,767 --> 01:53:49,367
How many?
2093
01:53:49,433 --> 01:53:51,400
The Program Three forces
will bring us up
2094
01:53:51,467 --> 01:53:55,300
to 431,000
by the middle of '67.
2095
01:53:56,767 --> 01:53:58,000
What about the bombing?
2096
01:53:58,066 --> 01:54:01,867
We're looking at heavier B-52
strikes in the southern DMZ,
2097
01:54:01,934 --> 01:54:05,967
and in North Vietnam,
targets in the restricted zones.
2098
01:54:06,033 --> 01:54:07,433
Downtown Hanoi.
2099
01:54:07,500 --> 01:54:09,000
Yes, sir, and Haiphong,
2100
01:54:09,066 --> 01:54:11,100
and in the buffer zone
with China.
2101
01:54:11,166 --> 01:54:12,467
The good news,
Mr. President,
2102
01:54:12,533 --> 01:54:13,734
is that the naysayers
were wrong.
2103
01:54:13,800 --> 01:54:16,200
Peking and Moscow
stood still,
2104
01:54:16,266 --> 01:54:18,033
and they will very
likely stand still
2105
01:54:18,100 --> 01:54:20,133
even with intensified
activity.
2106
01:54:20,200 --> 01:54:23,900
Hmm.
2107
01:54:23,967 --> 01:54:27,066
Are you recommending some of
these new targets for me today?
2108
01:54:27,133 --> 01:54:30,500
Yes, I am. You have the
evaluation sheets before you.
2109
01:54:30,567 --> 01:54:32,200
I have some
photographs here.
2110
01:54:32,266 --> 01:54:35,767
Number 72:
the Van Dien truck depot.
2111
01:54:35,834 --> 01:54:38,900
That the one with
the school up the street?
2112
01:54:43,333 --> 01:54:47,133
As a matter of fact, yes,
the Polish Friendship School
2113
01:54:47,200 --> 01:54:49,166
across the highway,
a half a mile up.
2114
01:54:49,233 --> 01:54:51,867
Mr. President,
as you may recall,
2115
01:54:51,934 --> 01:54:53,300
in order to avoid
a tax increase,
2116
01:54:53,367 --> 01:54:56,633
we did not budget
for the war beyond
this fiscal year,
2117
01:54:56,700 --> 01:54:59,166
which has cost us
20 billion
2118
01:54:59,233 --> 01:55:02,333
as opposed to
the 12 billion projected.
2119
01:55:05,000 --> 01:55:08,333
We are over by eight billion?
2120
01:55:08,400 --> 01:55:10,266
Eight billion?
2121
01:55:13,133 --> 01:55:17,400
Mr. President,
if you approve
these new forces,
2122
01:55:17,467 --> 01:55:19,633
constraints on
domestic programs
2123
01:55:19,700 --> 01:55:22,533
will no longer be
avoidable.
2124
01:55:22,600 --> 01:55:25,033
It's all in a memo I
sent over to you today
2125
01:55:25,100 --> 01:55:28,033
along with some
recommendations.
2126
01:55:35,133 --> 01:55:36,266
Joe.
2127
01:55:36,333 --> 01:55:40,333
I want to start working on
the State of the Union.
2128
01:55:43,500 --> 01:55:46,200
You sit down with Bob
and Walt and Fowler.
2129
01:55:46,266 --> 01:55:48,500
Yes, Mr. President.
2130
01:55:52,600 --> 01:55:54,834
There's to be no mention
of the Great Society!
2131
01:56:10,400 --> 01:56:11,934
What is it you're
looking for?
2132
01:56:12,000 --> 01:56:13,834
Undersecretary of state?
2133
01:56:13,900 --> 01:56:17,433
I'll change the title to the
Holy Roman Emperor, right?
2134
01:56:17,500 --> 01:56:22,800
No, this is the best way
I can serve your presidency.
2135
01:56:22,867 --> 01:56:27,000
And I think Dean Rusk
would feel undercut
2136
01:56:27,066 --> 01:56:29,700
if you were to fill
George Ball's job
2137
01:56:29,767 --> 01:56:32,300
with a personal
friend of yours.
2138
01:56:32,367 --> 01:56:34,233
I don't give a rat's ass
what Rusk feels!
2139
01:56:34,300 --> 01:56:36,433
I need you
in that room, Clark.
2140
01:56:36,500 --> 01:56:39,233
I need someone like George with
an ability to reason and argue.
2141
01:56:39,300 --> 01:56:40,700
A devil's advocate.
2142
01:56:40,767 --> 01:56:44,500
George Ball was not
playing devil's advocate.
2143
01:56:44,567 --> 01:56:48,000
He believes
every word he says.
2144
01:56:49,767 --> 01:56:51,500
All right.
2145
01:56:51,567 --> 01:56:52,934
All right.
2146
01:56:57,567 --> 01:56:59,367
Moyers wants the job.
2147
01:56:59,433 --> 01:57:02,567
My press man thinks if I make
him number two at State,
2148
01:57:02,633 --> 01:57:05,433
I'll all of a sudden
give a shit what
he thinks about Vietnam.
2149
01:57:06,600 --> 01:57:09,533
And McNamara.
McNamara sends me a paper.
2150
01:57:09,600 --> 01:57:12,133
Says we should cap the troops,
level off the bombing.
2151
01:57:12,200 --> 01:57:14,033
You know what happens
if I stop bombing?
2152
01:57:14,100 --> 01:57:17,166
Ho Chi Minh runs five
more divisions up my ass,
2153
01:57:17,233 --> 01:57:19,734
that's what happens!
2154
01:57:19,800 --> 01:57:22,633
It was McNamara's program,
the whole thing.
2155
01:57:22,700 --> 01:57:24,900
Now he's talking up
a shitstorm with Bobby.
2156
01:57:24,967 --> 01:57:25,867
You don't know that.
2157
01:57:25,934 --> 01:57:27,667
I know everything.
2158
01:57:27,734 --> 01:57:30,934
I know who's saying what
at those fancy Georgetown
dinner parties.
2159
01:57:31,000 --> 01:57:33,767
I know 'cause I had
Hoover put a couple of
boys there, too.
2160
01:57:33,834 --> 01:57:35,033
I know.
2161
01:57:35,100 --> 01:57:37,633
What they say
doesn't matter.
2162
01:57:37,700 --> 01:57:40,100
You're not helpless
in this situation.
2163
01:57:40,166 --> 01:57:42,133
Your approval ratings
are down.
2164
01:57:42,200 --> 01:57:46,834
You need to go out there on
the stump and sell the truth.
2165
01:57:46,900 --> 01:57:48,700
Westmoreland is now saying
2166
01:57:48,767 --> 01:57:53,266
that a Communist military
victory is impossible.
2167
01:57:53,333 --> 01:57:56,033
You're finally winning
in Vietnam.
2168
01:57:56,100 --> 01:57:57,867
We're winning,
but we're losing.
2169
01:57:57,934 --> 01:58:00,066
We're killing 'em,
and we're losing.
2170
01:58:00,133 --> 01:58:04,700
We're losing because this war
goes on and on and on!
2171
01:58:04,767 --> 01:58:06,367
I passed twice
the number of bills
2172
01:58:06,433 --> 01:58:08,333
FDR got through in his
first hundred days.
2173
01:58:08,400 --> 01:58:11,066
200 in the last
two years!
2174
01:58:11,133 --> 01:58:13,967
There's never been
an era in American
history like this,
2175
01:58:14,033 --> 01:58:17,467
yet there's so much
left to do.
2176
01:58:17,533 --> 01:58:21,734
But this war has
got to end!
2177
01:58:21,800 --> 01:58:25,433
Five years pussyfooting
about in that miserable
little country.
2178
01:58:25,500 --> 01:58:27,800
$2 billion a month!
2179
01:58:27,867 --> 01:58:30,767
We could be
feeding these people,
educating these people!
2180
01:58:30,834 --> 01:58:34,066
God damn it!
Why won't that son of a bitch
let me help him?
2181
01:58:34,133 --> 01:58:35,567
Why?
2182
01:58:35,633 --> 01:58:37,033
Why won't he
lay down his arms
2183
01:58:37,100 --> 01:58:42,266
and stop killing off his sons
in the flower of their youth?
2184
01:58:42,333 --> 01:58:44,367
I do not understand.
2185
01:58:44,433 --> 01:58:47,533
I just do not
understand.
2186
01:58:51,000 --> 01:58:54,333
Mr. President...
2187
01:58:54,400 --> 01:58:56,800
Moyers.
Get me Moyers.
2188
01:58:56,867 --> 01:59:00,066
And get me
General Westmoreland
on the other line.
2189
01:59:00,133 --> 01:59:01,300
Can I help you,
Mr. President?
2190
01:59:01,367 --> 01:59:04,266
Get your bags packed.
2191
01:59:05,967 --> 01:59:10,300
Call the press together.
We're going to Vietnam.
2192
01:59:22,834 --> 01:59:25,000
Dean?
2193
01:59:28,433 --> 01:59:30,166
Are they ours?
2194
01:59:30,233 --> 01:59:31,667
I fucking hope so.
2195
01:59:41,000 --> 01:59:43,800
( band plays
"Hail to the Chief" )
2196
02:00:13,633 --> 02:00:17,000
Soldier:
Present arms!
2197
02:00:19,300 --> 02:00:22,600
Order... hut!
2198
02:01:02,633 --> 02:01:04,533
Oh.
2199
02:01:14,333 --> 02:01:15,734
Where you from, son?
2200
02:01:15,800 --> 02:01:16,967
Louisville, Kentucky, sir.
2201
02:01:17,033 --> 02:01:19,000
- Kentucky?
- Yes, sir.
2202
02:01:19,066 --> 02:01:20,800
Have you reached majority age
yet, Corporal?
2203
02:01:20,867 --> 02:01:23,133
I was 21 last month, sir.
2204
02:01:23,200 --> 02:01:26,266
My mom and my girl sent
me a big old chocolate cake,
and it came just in time, sir.
2205
02:01:26,333 --> 02:01:29,834
- Good.
Bill, get 'em out.
- Yes, Mr. President.
2206
02:01:29,900 --> 02:01:33,166
Well, they've given me
the honor, Corporal McCaffrey,
2207
02:01:33,233 --> 02:01:37,066
of pinning you with
this Purple Heart here.
2208
02:01:37,133 --> 02:01:38,400
There.
2209
02:01:38,467 --> 02:01:39,967
You'll be home right soon,
2210
02:01:40,033 --> 02:01:41,100
and on the first Tuesday
of November,
2211
02:01:41,166 --> 02:01:42,867
you got a congressional
election.
2212
02:01:42,934 --> 02:01:45,133
I want you to vote.
2213
02:01:45,200 --> 02:01:46,800
Yes, sir.
2214
02:01:46,867 --> 02:01:49,600
You'll be able to get
to your polling place?
2215
02:01:49,667 --> 02:01:51,700
I don't know where it is,
but I'll get a ride, sir.
2216
02:01:51,767 --> 02:01:54,266
All right.
2217
02:01:56,600 --> 02:01:57,667
Make sure you vote now.
2218
02:01:57,734 --> 02:01:59,667
Yes, sir.
2219
02:02:01,700 --> 02:02:04,400
We're all behind you, sir.
2220
02:02:04,467 --> 02:02:07,333
Every one of us.
2221
02:02:07,400 --> 02:02:10,767
We won't let you down.
2222
02:02:10,834 --> 02:02:11,700
All right, son.
2223
02:02:11,767 --> 02:02:14,834
Thank you.
2224
02:02:14,900 --> 02:02:17,033
And I won't let you down!
2225
02:02:17,100 --> 02:02:19,967
You'll get everything
you need.
2226
02:02:20,033 --> 02:02:23,333
I thank you.
I salute you.
2227
02:02:23,400 --> 02:02:26,033
May the good Lord look
over you and keep you safe
2228
02:02:26,100 --> 02:02:29,266
until you come home and nail
that coonskin to the wall.
2229
02:02:29,333 --> 02:02:32,367
Three cheers for the
president! Hip hip...
2230
02:02:32,433 --> 02:02:33,667
Hooray!
2231
02:02:33,734 --> 02:02:34,667
- Hip hip...
- Hooray!
2232
02:02:34,734 --> 02:02:37,000
- Hip hip...
- Hooray!
2233
02:03:32,300 --> 02:03:34,834
Certainly the bombing
of the north
2234
02:03:34,900 --> 02:03:37,100
makes the war more
costly and more difficult
2235
02:03:37,166 --> 02:03:40,333
and more painful for
North Vietnam.
2236
02:03:40,400 --> 02:03:42,967
It is a harsh punishment
indeed.
2237
02:03:43,033 --> 02:03:45,867
But we are not in Vietnam
to play the part
2238
02:03:45,934 --> 02:03:48,333
of an avenging angel pouring
death and destruction.
2239
02:03:48,400 --> 02:03:52,667
Kennedy, McCarthy
2240
02:03:52,734 --> 02:03:55,367
haven't done a thing
for this country!
2241
02:03:55,433 --> 02:03:57,767
Not a fucking thing!
2242
02:03:57,834 --> 02:04:00,100
And look at all I've done!
2243
02:04:00,166 --> 02:04:01,934
Kennedy:
It should be clear by now that
the bombing of the north
2244
02:04:02,000 --> 02:04:05,233
cannot bring an end to the war
in the south
2245
02:04:05,300 --> 02:04:06,934
and that indeed at
the present time
2246
02:04:07,000 --> 02:04:09,767
it may well be prolonging
that war.
2247
02:04:09,834 --> 02:04:11,100
Our troops are being killed
2248
02:04:11,166 --> 02:04:13,934
by the bullets and the
mines of the south.
2249
02:04:14,000 --> 02:04:15,834
If by ending the bombing
of the north,
2250
02:04:15,900 --> 02:04:18,433
we can bring peace to
South Vietnam,
2251
02:04:18,500 --> 02:04:20,667
we will save the lives of
thousands of...
2252
02:04:20,734 --> 02:04:22,767
I don't know why you're
worried about Kennedy
2253
02:04:22,834 --> 02:04:25,467
and your second term.
2254
02:04:25,533 --> 02:04:26,800
Because I don't think
your health
2255
02:04:26,867 --> 02:04:29,867
will survive your
first term.
2256
02:04:29,934 --> 02:04:31,867
Where you going?
2257
02:04:31,934 --> 02:04:33,600
I want to be
useful to you.
2258
02:04:33,667 --> 02:04:35,800
And I would listen even
as you rant and rave,
2259
02:04:35,867 --> 02:04:37,467
but I have worked
far too hard
2260
02:04:37,533 --> 02:04:41,533
and borne far too much to
watch you destroy yourself.
2261
02:04:47,500 --> 02:04:50,333
Kennedy:
...major political elements
of South Vietnam
2262
02:04:50,400 --> 02:04:53,633
to participate in their
choice of leadership...
2263
02:04:56,800 --> 02:04:59,667
The bridge is a major target,
and we've never hit it.
2264
02:04:59,734 --> 02:05:02,266
The chance of civilian deaths
will be almost zero.
2265
02:05:02,333 --> 02:05:04,700
I say 100 to 500,
possibly more.
2266
02:05:04,767 --> 02:05:06,600
Which is it,
500 or zero?
2267
02:05:06,667 --> 02:05:09,000
Mr. President, the Stennis
Committee is up in arms
2268
02:05:09,066 --> 02:05:11,066
over our holding back
on these targets.
2269
02:05:11,133 --> 02:05:12,700
Bob's testimony is
coming up,
2270
02:05:12,767 --> 02:05:14,200
and it might take some
heat off him
2271
02:05:14,266 --> 02:05:16,734
if some of these can be
cleared up before his
appearance.
2272
02:05:16,800 --> 02:05:19,066
I can take the heat
without padding my resume
2273
02:05:19,133 --> 02:05:20,233
with more bombing missions.
2274
02:05:20,300 --> 02:05:21,633
This is a heavily
defended target
2275
02:05:21,700 --> 02:05:23,467
in a very populated area.
2276
02:05:23,533 --> 02:05:25,300
The photos are right here,
Mr. President.
2277
02:05:25,367 --> 02:05:26,433
McNamara: The photos
are meaningless.
2278
02:05:26,500 --> 02:05:28,367
The target is
heavily defended.
2279
02:05:28,433 --> 02:05:29,467
The pilots
jettison their bombs
2280
02:05:29,533 --> 02:05:30,834
when they're
under attack.
2281
02:05:30,900 --> 02:05:32,233
Now, I've been asking
for two years
2282
02:05:32,300 --> 02:05:33,834
why they don't come
straight up the river.
2283
02:05:33,900 --> 02:05:35,066
That way, if they
dump the bombs,
2284
02:05:35,133 --> 02:05:36,567
they go in the water and not
on the people,
2285
02:05:36,633 --> 02:05:38,000
and I still haven't
got an answer.
2286
02:05:38,066 --> 02:05:40,633
Coming in from the gulf involves
an extra turn,
2287
02:05:40,700 --> 02:05:43,000
with our backs to those
heavy defenses.
2288
02:05:43,066 --> 02:05:46,934
If it is so well defended,
should we risk the pilots?
2289
02:05:47,000 --> 02:05:49,533
Wheeler:
Men dying is a relative thing.
2290
02:05:49,600 --> 02:05:52,333
The effect of the air
campaign is cumulative.
2291
02:05:52,400 --> 02:05:55,200
Every blow makes the enemy
stretch his resources.
2292
02:05:55,266 --> 02:05:57,567
Stretching is
a relative thing.
2293
02:05:57,633 --> 02:06:00,433
Mr. President,
we shouldn't be bombing
for punitive reasons,
2294
02:06:00,500 --> 02:06:01,934
but there just
doesn't seem any point
to this anymore!
2295
02:06:02,000 --> 02:06:03,500
Hit it!
2296
02:06:03,567 --> 02:06:05,233
Hit the goddamn bridge.
2297
02:06:05,300 --> 02:06:07,200
What's next?
2298
02:06:07,266 --> 02:06:11,600
Rostow:
Uh, number 309, sir,
the, uh, railcar repair shop.
2299
02:06:15,433 --> 02:06:17,100
Marg?
2300
02:06:19,867 --> 02:06:21,200
Marg?
2301
02:06:22,266 --> 02:06:24,834
Oh, Jesus.
Oh, Jesus.
2302
02:06:24,900 --> 02:06:27,266
Come to me.
Come on.
2303
02:06:27,333 --> 02:06:31,433
I got you. I got you.
I got you. I got you.
2304
02:06:43,500 --> 02:06:45,867
I don't know what
I'm gonna do, Marg.
2305
02:06:48,700 --> 02:06:50,500
Rostow, the chiefs,
2306
02:06:50,567 --> 02:06:53,066
they're gonna drive this
thing straight to hell.
2307
02:07:42,367 --> 02:07:44,934
- I won't be long.
- Okay.
2308
02:08:31,667 --> 02:08:33,200
Protestors:
One, two, three, four,
2309
02:08:33,266 --> 02:08:35,400
we don't want your
fucking war!
2310
02:08:35,467 --> 02:08:37,033
One, two, three, four,
2311
02:08:37,100 --> 02:08:39,266
we don't want your
fucking war!
2312
02:08:39,333 --> 02:08:41,100
One, two, three, four,
2313
02:08:41,166 --> 02:08:43,133
we don't want your
fucking war!
2314
02:08:43,200 --> 02:08:45,066
One, two, three, four,
2315
02:08:45,133 --> 02:08:47,033
we don't want your
fucking war!
2316
02:08:47,100 --> 02:08:48,967
One, two, three, four,
2317
02:08:49,033 --> 02:08:50,967
we don't want your
fucking war!
2318
02:08:51,033 --> 02:08:52,867
One, two, three, four,
2319
02:08:52,934 --> 02:08:54,934
we don't want your
fucking war!
2320
02:08:55,000 --> 02:08:56,300
One, two, three, four...
2321
02:08:56,367 --> 02:09:00,133
Hey, hey, LBJ! How many
kids did you kill today?
2322
02:09:00,200 --> 02:09:03,867
Hey, hey, LBJ! How many
kids did you kill today?
2323
02:09:03,934 --> 02:09:07,333
Hey, hey, LBJ! How many
kids did you kill today?
2324
02:09:07,400 --> 02:09:10,500
Hey, hey, LBJ! How many
kids did you kill today?
2325
02:09:10,567 --> 02:09:14,433
Officer:
All right, take formation,
spread out!
2326
02:09:14,500 --> 02:09:16,467
Protestors:
Stop the war in Vietnam!
2327
02:09:16,533 --> 02:09:18,200
Bring the troops home now!
2328
02:09:18,266 --> 02:09:20,166
Stop the war in Vietnam!
2329
02:09:20,233 --> 02:09:22,734
Bring the troops home now!
2330
02:09:22,800 --> 02:09:25,433
Let's go! Let's go!
File in, move it up!
2331
02:09:25,500 --> 02:09:27,467
Protestors:
Hell, no! We won't go!
2332
02:09:27,533 --> 02:09:29,433
Hell, no! We won't go!
2333
02:09:29,500 --> 02:09:31,233
Hell, no! We won't go!
2334
02:09:31,300 --> 02:09:33,166
Hell, no! We won't go!
2335
02:09:33,233 --> 02:09:36,300
No rifle is to be loaded
without my permission.
2336
02:09:36,367 --> 02:09:38,400
I'll have the commanders
go down the line again.
2337
02:09:38,467 --> 02:09:40,233
Not one bullet,
damn it!
2338
02:10:09,200 --> 02:10:11,867
Get off me!
Let me go!
2339
02:10:11,934 --> 02:10:15,100
Let me go!
Just let me go!
2340
02:10:17,500 --> 02:10:20,000
Look at that.
2341
02:10:22,934 --> 02:10:25,900
There he is!
There's McNamara!
2342
02:10:25,967 --> 02:10:28,200
There's McNamara!
2343
02:10:43,734 --> 02:10:46,734
Stennis:
Secretary McNamara, on behalf
of the subcommittee,
2344
02:10:46,800 --> 02:10:50,100
let me thank you for your
appearance here today.
2345
02:10:50,166 --> 02:10:55,033
I have, from the beginning,
and do today,
2346
02:10:55,100 --> 02:10:59,233
fully support the objectives
of the bombing
2347
02:10:59,300 --> 02:11:01,900
to interdict men
and supplies
2348
02:11:01,967 --> 02:11:04,667
and hinder the enemy's ability
to wage war in the south.
2349
02:11:04,734 --> 02:11:09,367
In this I am 100% behind
the joint chiefs,
2350
02:11:09,433 --> 02:11:10,900
Admiral Sharp,
2351
02:11:10,967 --> 02:11:13,867
General Westmoreland
and his commanders,
2352
02:11:13,934 --> 02:11:16,266
as they are fully aware
2353
02:11:16,333 --> 02:11:18,333
and as the president
is aware.
2354
02:11:18,400 --> 02:11:22,166
We are all greatly encouraged
to hear that, Mr. Secretary.
2355
02:11:22,233 --> 02:11:25,700
You are the last to testify,
as you know,
2356
02:11:25,767 --> 02:11:28,633
and the overwhelming view
2357
02:11:28,700 --> 02:11:30,200
from General Wheeler
and the others
2358
02:11:30,266 --> 02:11:33,800
is that there has been
excessive interference
from your office--
2359
02:11:33,867 --> 02:11:36,967
If I'd be permitted
to finish my statement,
Senator Stennis.
2360
02:11:37,033 --> 02:11:40,333
There are copies available
outside the hearing room.
2361
02:11:40,400 --> 02:11:44,600
Our greater objective, however,
was, and remains,
2362
02:11:44,667 --> 02:11:46,800
to persuade the leaders
of North Vietnam
2363
02:11:46,867 --> 02:11:49,500
that they cannot
prevail.
2364
02:11:49,567 --> 02:11:52,700
In this we have been
unsuccessful.
2365
02:11:52,767 --> 02:11:55,066
This is due to
the fact that North Vietnam
2366
02:11:55,133 --> 02:11:57,400
can sustain its forces
in the south
2367
02:11:57,467 --> 02:12:00,533
with a mere 100 tons
of supplies a day,
2368
02:12:00,600 --> 02:12:02,500
85 of which they can acquire
2369
02:12:02,567 --> 02:12:06,467
through corrupt elements in the
South Vietnamese government.
2370
02:12:06,533 --> 02:12:09,600
Out of 359 targets
recommended by the chiefs,
2371
02:12:09,667 --> 02:12:11,700
only 57 remain unstruck.
2372
02:12:11,767 --> 02:12:14,100
Two are battery plants
2373
02:12:14,166 --> 02:12:17,100
manufacturing a total
of 600 tons a year,
2374
02:12:17,166 --> 02:12:20,500
not enough to fill
the corner of a Sears-Roebuck
regional warehouse.
2375
02:12:20,567 --> 02:12:22,433
Just a moment,
Mr. Secretary.
2376
02:12:22,500 --> 02:12:25,133
There's a rubber plant
producing 30 tires a day.
2377
02:12:25,200 --> 02:12:27,533
The service station
where I fill my car
2378
02:12:27,600 --> 02:12:29,100
could supply the output
of this facility.
2379
02:12:29,166 --> 02:12:33,166
Hitting these targets
will cost us in pilots,
2380
02:12:33,233 --> 02:12:35,834
planes and hard cash,
2381
02:12:35,900 --> 02:12:39,967
and they will kill
more and more civilians.
2382
02:12:40,033 --> 02:12:42,700
The military knows this.
2383
02:12:42,767 --> 02:12:45,166
They think it's worth it.
2384
02:12:45,233 --> 02:12:46,800
I do not.
2385
02:12:48,400 --> 02:12:49,934
Stennis:
Order!
2386
02:12:50,000 --> 02:12:51,567
You know what he did
to me out there?
2387
02:12:51,633 --> 02:12:52,834
It's like selling your house
2388
02:12:52,900 --> 02:12:54,533
and your son
takes the buyer aside
2389
02:12:54,600 --> 02:12:57,200
and tells him there's leaks
in the basement.
2390
02:12:57,266 --> 02:13:00,500
Now Hanoi knows we're divided,
and they'll never stop.
2391
02:13:00,567 --> 02:13:02,333
I've gotta get rid of that
son of a bitch.
2392
02:13:02,400 --> 02:13:05,033
You can't just
get rid of him.
2393
02:13:05,100 --> 02:13:06,934
The Republicans will
play up the disunity.
2394
02:13:07,000 --> 02:13:08,500
Bobby will have a field day.
2395
02:13:08,567 --> 02:13:10,700
Bobby's clamoring for him to
resign, don't you know,
2396
02:13:10,767 --> 02:13:13,900
to go public against me
for doing what he advised!
2397
02:13:13,967 --> 02:13:16,734
Look, we'll find a job
for McNamara
2398
02:13:16,800 --> 02:13:18,767
where he won't be able
to snipe at you.
2399
02:13:18,834 --> 02:13:21,233
I'll help you fill his post
with someone you can trust.
2400
02:13:21,300 --> 02:13:23,934
I'll do anything I can
for you, Mr. President.
2401
02:13:24,000 --> 02:13:26,600
But we have a reelection
campaign to start,
2402
02:13:26,667 --> 02:13:29,667
and you do not have a policy
to end this war.
2403
02:13:32,133 --> 02:13:36,667
Clark, you'll do
anything you can?
2404
02:13:44,834 --> 02:13:46,633
They're ready for you,
Mr. President.
2405
02:13:46,700 --> 02:13:49,567
Yeah. I'll be out
in a minute.
2406
02:13:49,633 --> 02:13:51,467
Sit down, Bob.
2407
02:13:56,934 --> 02:13:59,600
I'm sorry you found out
from the "Washington Post."
2408
02:13:59,667 --> 02:14:03,200
I'm sure Fowler told you,
or the bank people.
2409
02:14:03,266 --> 02:14:05,266
Nobody told me anything,
Mr. President.
2410
02:14:05,333 --> 02:14:08,033
I, uh, mentioned to you
in the spring
2411
02:14:08,100 --> 02:14:09,567
that I'd been approached
by the World Bank,
2412
02:14:09,633 --> 02:14:12,333
but I thought if you were
going to nominate me,
2413
02:14:12,400 --> 02:14:14,867
you would have
said something yourself.
2414
02:14:14,934 --> 02:14:17,700
Doing fine work there.
Humanitarian work.
2415
02:14:17,767 --> 02:14:19,000
I know that's of
interest to you.
2416
02:14:19,066 --> 02:14:22,000
Yes, but only if it's
what you want.
2417
02:14:22,066 --> 02:14:24,333
If I can no longer
be of service--
2418
02:14:24,400 --> 02:14:26,000
Service?
2419
02:14:26,066 --> 02:14:28,834
Who's been of more
service to me than you?
2420
02:14:28,900 --> 02:14:31,867
Why, you've served longer
than any defense secretary
in history.
2421
02:14:31,934 --> 02:14:34,033
Look what you've had
to shepherd us through.
2422
02:14:34,100 --> 02:14:36,800
The Cuban crisis--
two Cuban crisises,
2423
02:14:36,867 --> 02:14:39,400
Berlin, Dominican,
Middle East.
2424
02:14:39,467 --> 02:14:42,567
Hell, ha, that's a tough
enough job in peacetime.
2425
02:14:42,633 --> 02:14:45,467
And look what you've
had to deal with.
2426
02:14:45,533 --> 02:14:48,033
Mr. President,
2427
02:14:48,100 --> 02:14:50,133
the point is...
2428
02:14:50,200 --> 02:14:55,333
I don't have to leave
until you want me to leave.
2429
02:14:55,400 --> 02:14:57,066
Bob,
2430
02:14:57,133 --> 02:14:59,700
Joe Fowler asked me
for three nominees.
2431
02:14:59,767 --> 02:15:02,567
I said I only got one:
McNamara.
2432
02:15:02,633 --> 02:15:05,367
There were tears in the
treasury secretary's eyes
2433
02:15:05,433 --> 02:15:07,700
'cause he was hoping
he'd be my choice.
2434
02:15:07,767 --> 02:15:09,700
And with tears in his eyes,
2435
02:15:09,767 --> 02:15:12,467
he said he had to submit
three names to the bank.
2436
02:15:12,533 --> 02:15:16,333
I said, "Okay. McNamara,
McNamara, and McNamara."
2437
02:15:16,400 --> 02:15:17,734
You ask him.
2438
02:15:17,800 --> 02:15:21,233
Now, the bank directors
vote today,
2439
02:15:21,300 --> 02:15:24,200
but it's, uh,
it's just a formality.
2440
02:15:24,266 --> 02:15:26,867
Now, Bob,
I better get over
2441
02:15:26,934 --> 02:15:29,433
to Lady Bird's
beautification awards.
2442
02:15:29,500 --> 02:15:31,033
It's important to her.
2443
02:15:31,100 --> 02:15:34,100
Your wife's the same with her
reading program, I know.
2444
02:15:34,166 --> 02:15:37,300
Yes, although with
her condition,
2445
02:15:37,367 --> 02:15:38,500
it's been difficult.
2446
02:15:38,567 --> 02:15:41,567
No improvement
since surgery?
2447
02:15:41,633 --> 02:15:45,767
My son, uh...
2448
02:15:45,834 --> 02:15:47,967
he has them as well.
2449
02:15:49,467 --> 02:15:51,633
You deserve whatever you want
from this government.
2450
02:15:51,700 --> 02:15:54,266
My obligation is to help you,
2451
02:15:54,333 --> 02:15:56,667
and this was within my
power to grant you.
2452
02:15:59,834 --> 02:16:04,533
People have an obligation
to the president,
2453
02:16:04,600 --> 02:16:06,867
not the other way around.
2454
02:16:12,934 --> 02:16:16,667
"May your selfless service,
spent in defending freedom,
2455
02:16:16,734 --> 02:16:18,800
"bring even greater rewards
2456
02:16:18,867 --> 02:16:20,700
"in the larger work that
you now undertake
2457
02:16:20,767 --> 02:16:22,667
to promote freedom throughout
the world."
2458
02:16:22,734 --> 02:16:26,600
Signed, Lyndon B. Johnson,
President.
2459
02:16:31,533 --> 02:16:34,266
This is the Medal of Freedom,
2460
02:16:34,333 --> 02:16:37,166
the highest award a
president can bestow
2461
02:16:37,233 --> 02:16:40,934
upon a citizen of
the United States.
2462
02:16:41,000 --> 02:16:45,667
I award it now to a loyal,
brilliant, good man.
2463
02:16:45,734 --> 02:16:49,166
Robert McNamara,
the very best we have.
2464
02:16:52,467 --> 02:16:53,767
Thank you, Mr. President.
2465
02:16:53,834 --> 02:16:56,033
This is an almost impossible
situation to respond to.
2466
02:16:56,100 --> 02:16:57,867
You're used to
impossible situations.
2467
02:17:33,033 --> 02:17:34,233
Thank you.
2468
02:17:43,834 --> 02:17:46,300
Now, I stand here tonight
to tell you
2469
02:17:46,367 --> 02:17:49,667
that I regard Bob McNamara
here
2470
02:17:49,734 --> 02:17:52,500
as not only one
of the smartest,
2471
02:17:52,567 --> 02:17:56,166
but one of the most humane
men I know.
2472
02:17:56,233 --> 02:17:58,400
Thank you.
2473
02:18:01,166 --> 02:18:05,767
One: Put the men in.
2474
02:18:07,300 --> 02:18:11,533
Two: Call up the reserves and
extend tours of duty.
2475
02:18:12,734 --> 02:18:17,533
And three: expand the bombing.
2476
02:18:28,467 --> 02:18:32,433
Mr. President, uh--
2477
02:18:32,500 --> 02:18:35,333
I cannot, uh...
2478
02:18:37,433 --> 02:18:42,333
...find the words to express
what lies in my heart today.
2479
02:18:42,400 --> 02:18:46,066
And, uh...
2480
02:18:46,133 --> 02:18:49,033
I think I better respond
at another time.
2481
02:18:50,433 --> 02:18:53,133
Bob.
2482
02:19:11,767 --> 02:19:13,066
One question, please!
2483
02:19:13,133 --> 02:19:15,400
- Over here!
- Mr. Clifford!
2484
02:19:15,467 --> 02:19:17,166
Mr. Clifford,
does your acceptance
2485
02:19:17,233 --> 02:19:19,000
of the job of
defense secretary
2486
02:19:19,066 --> 02:19:22,100
signal your interest
in elected office?
2487
02:19:22,166 --> 02:19:24,700
It signals only my desire
2488
02:19:24,767 --> 02:19:28,834
to serve a great president
and a longtime friend.
2489
02:19:28,900 --> 02:19:31,667
I am 61 years old,
2490
02:19:31,734 --> 02:19:34,133
and I'm sure this
will finish me off.
2491
02:19:37,333 --> 02:19:39,100
John.
2492
02:19:39,166 --> 02:19:42,266
It's been observed that in
your views on Vietnam,
2493
02:19:42,333 --> 02:19:44,100
you've changed from
dove to hawk.
2494
02:19:44,166 --> 02:19:45,400
Which are you?
2495
02:19:45,467 --> 02:19:48,100
I am not conscious
of falling under
2496
02:19:48,166 --> 02:19:51,133
any of those
ornithological divisions.
2497
02:19:51,200 --> 02:19:53,166
I'll tell you this,
he's no ostrich.
2498
02:19:55,467 --> 02:19:56,867
I know of no man who will
call it as it is
2499
02:19:56,934 --> 02:20:00,133
with such candor and judgment
as this man, Clark Clifford.
2500
02:20:00,200 --> 02:20:02,400
We got a light at the end
of the tunnel now!
2501
02:20:11,967 --> 02:20:14,200
It's probably a small attack,
Mr. President.
2502
02:20:14,266 --> 02:20:16,734
The embassy compound's
been hit before.
2503
02:20:16,800 --> 02:20:18,433
Mr. Secretary,
it's not just the embassy.
2504
02:20:18,500 --> 02:20:20,900
The palace, legislature,
airport, too.
2505
02:20:26,734 --> 02:20:29,834
- Secretary Rusk.
- Put it on the speakerphone.
2506
02:20:32,166 --> 02:20:34,133
Go ahead, Ben.
2507
02:20:34,200 --> 02:20:37,000
Ben:
Dean, I've got the duty officer
at the embassy, Alan Brandt.
2508
02:20:37,066 --> 02:20:40,867
Mr. Brandt!
Mr. Brandt, can you hear me?
2509
02:20:40,934 --> 02:20:43,567
They're standing right outside,
Mr. Secretary.
2510
02:20:43,633 --> 02:20:45,433
Rusk:
Outside of
the embassy compound?
2511
02:20:45,500 --> 02:20:46,767
Inside.
2512
02:20:46,834 --> 02:20:49,000
They blew through the wall.
They're at the door.
2513
02:20:49,066 --> 02:20:50,633
Rostow, casualty report.
2514
02:20:50,700 --> 02:20:53,567
Rusk:
Do you have something to defend
yourself with, Mr. Brandt?
2515
02:20:53,633 --> 02:20:55,767
I'm at the window.
They're below me.
2516
02:20:55,834 --> 02:20:58,233
They see me.
They're looking right at me.
2517
02:20:58,300 --> 02:20:59,633
I've got to go.
Mr. Secretary.
2518
02:20:59,700 --> 02:21:01,467
Small attack?!
2519
02:21:01,533 --> 02:21:03,667
These are desperation moves,
Mr. President.
2520
02:21:03,734 --> 02:21:04,667
We've got them on the run.
2521
02:21:04,734 --> 02:21:07,066
It's not just Saigon.
2522
02:21:08,567 --> 02:21:10,433
Man, on TV:
The Vietcong have launched
surprise attacks
2523
02:21:10,500 --> 02:21:14,367
on 36 of the 44 provincial
capitals of South Vietnam.
2524
02:21:14,433 --> 02:21:17,233
From the streets of Hue
near the DMZ
2525
02:21:17,300 --> 02:21:19,700
to the U.S. embassy
compound in Saigon,
2526
02:21:19,767 --> 02:21:23,600
the casualty count on both
sides has been unprecedented.
2527
02:21:23,667 --> 02:21:26,500
The U.S. military says
it is successfully
2528
02:21:26,567 --> 02:21:28,867
beating back
the Vietcong attacks,
2529
02:21:28,934 --> 02:21:31,533
but clearly they are
paying an enormous price.
2530
02:21:31,600 --> 02:21:34,767
The enemy's well-laid plans
went afoul.
2531
02:21:34,834 --> 02:21:37,633
They tried to ignite a
revolution in the south,
and they failed.
2532
02:21:37,700 --> 02:21:41,467
If this is a failure,
God help us when they have
a success.
2533
02:21:59,934 --> 02:22:02,667
I've given 'em all the men,
the planes, the guns,
2534
02:22:02,734 --> 02:22:04,200
the bullets he said he needed.
2535
02:22:04,266 --> 02:22:06,233
I thought we were
winning this thing!
2536
02:22:06,300 --> 02:22:09,200
Now Westmoreland says he wants
206,000 more troops!
2537
02:22:09,266 --> 02:22:11,266
206,000!
2538
02:22:11,333 --> 02:22:13,533
We'll have 750,000 there.
2539
02:22:13,600 --> 02:22:16,367
Three-quarters
of a million men
in Vietnam.
2540
02:22:16,433 --> 02:22:17,967
Light at the end
of the tunnel.
2541
02:22:18,033 --> 02:22:19,300
Hell, we don't even
have a tunnel.
2542
02:22:19,367 --> 02:22:21,200
We don't even know where
the tunnel is!
2543
02:22:21,266 --> 02:22:22,834
I want you to get
Westmoreland here.
2544
02:22:22,900 --> 02:22:24,967
Get your people together
and look at this thing.
2545
02:22:25,033 --> 02:22:26,700
We'll give 'em the boys
if we have to,
2546
02:22:26,767 --> 02:22:28,100
but on your recommendation.
2547
02:22:28,166 --> 02:22:29,200
You'll wait.
2548
02:22:29,266 --> 02:22:31,367
I'll wait,
but not for long.
2549
02:22:31,433 --> 02:22:34,900
If he needs 'em, what the hell
am I supposed to do?
2550
02:22:34,967 --> 02:22:39,066
Old friend,
get me an answer.
2551
02:22:39,133 --> 02:22:42,266
Give us these troops
so we can seize
the initiative!
2552
02:22:42,333 --> 02:22:44,133
But it will just be
more of the same!
2553
02:22:44,200 --> 02:22:46,633
The enemy's taken
200,000 killed,
2554
02:22:46,700 --> 02:22:48,133
and he'll take 200,000 more!
2555
02:22:48,200 --> 02:22:49,567
We've lost
a tenth that many,
2556
02:22:49,633 --> 02:22:51,333
and Americans are
rioting in the streets.
2557
02:22:51,400 --> 02:22:52,367
They should be cheering.
2558
02:22:52,433 --> 02:22:55,233
The Vietcong lost.
We were victorious.
2559
02:22:55,300 --> 02:22:56,867
That's true, Walt,
but remember
2560
02:22:56,934 --> 02:22:59,633
they only committed
175,000 men to this offensive,
2561
02:22:59,700 --> 02:23:01,633
holding enough back to
strike again.
2562
02:23:01,700 --> 02:23:03,467
That's right, damn it,
and it could happen at any time.
2563
02:23:03,533 --> 02:23:04,900
I say put the men in.
2564
02:23:04,967 --> 02:23:07,834
There are no more
trained men.
2565
02:23:07,900 --> 02:23:10,367
We would ship raw troops
and train them in the rear.
2566
02:23:10,433 --> 02:23:14,066
What rear? There is no
rear in Vietnam anymore.
2567
02:23:14,133 --> 02:23:17,166
I would hope we've at least
learned that from this victory.
2568
02:23:17,233 --> 02:23:19,300
With 206,000 more men,
2569
02:23:19,367 --> 02:23:21,734
we could go into Laos,
Cambodia, North Vietnam
2570
02:23:21,800 --> 02:23:24,266
and cut out their supply
routes once and for all.
2571
02:23:24,333 --> 02:23:27,100
We have never been given
that authority!
2572
02:23:27,166 --> 02:23:28,900
Excuse me, General.
2573
02:23:29,000 --> 02:23:32,066
Dean, you said
the enemy committed
2574
02:23:32,133 --> 02:23:34,567
175,000 men to the offensive.
2575
02:23:34,633 --> 02:23:35,934
That's right, Clark.
2576
02:23:36,000 --> 02:23:38,900
And General Westmoreland
says that they suffered
45,000 killed,
2577
02:23:38,967 --> 02:23:41,734
with a 1-to-3.5
killed-to-wounded ratio.
2578
02:23:41,800 --> 02:23:43,600
It's right here
in my report.
2579
02:23:43,667 --> 02:23:46,533
We beat the pants
off them.
2580
02:23:46,600 --> 02:23:49,033
Then how in hell do we
justify to the public
2581
02:23:49,100 --> 02:23:51,467
sending hundreds of
thousands more men?
2582
02:23:51,533 --> 02:23:53,400
We tell them this.
2583
02:23:53,467 --> 02:23:55,667
That we're within
inches of victory.
2584
02:23:55,734 --> 02:23:57,133
Inches.
2585
02:23:57,200 --> 02:23:59,967
45,000 killed,
yes, General?
2586
02:24:00,033 --> 02:24:01,333
Yes, sir.
2587
02:24:01,400 --> 02:24:03,834
And three and a half times that
number are out of action?
2588
02:24:03,900 --> 02:24:05,533
It's in the report,
Clark.
2589
02:24:05,600 --> 02:24:07,767
If there's 45,000 dead
2590
02:24:07,834 --> 02:24:10,333
and three and a half times
that number...
2591
02:24:10,400 --> 02:24:11,867
160,000.
2592
02:24:11,934 --> 02:24:17,600
157,500 wounded,
plus 45,000 dead...
2593
02:24:17,667 --> 02:24:22,367
General, according to you
and General Westmoreland,
2594
02:24:22,433 --> 02:24:27,834
we have killed and wounded
120% of the enemy.
2595
02:24:33,300 --> 02:24:36,433
It's becoming
more and more evident
2596
02:24:36,500 --> 02:24:39,266
that an out-and-out
military victory
2597
02:24:39,333 --> 02:24:43,700
cannot be achieved
with any strategy.
2598
02:24:43,767 --> 02:24:46,967
So, these are my
recommendations.
2599
02:24:47,033 --> 02:24:51,867
One: send Westmoreland
only those forces
2600
02:24:51,934 --> 02:24:54,767
that will satisfy
his immediate needs.
2601
02:24:54,834 --> 02:24:56,967
Wheeler has agreed to 22,000
2602
02:24:57,033 --> 02:24:59,066
plus the units
previously approved
2603
02:24:59,133 --> 02:25:01,266
and already scheduled
for deployment.
2604
02:25:01,333 --> 02:25:03,633
This would stave off
immediate defeat
2605
02:25:03,700 --> 02:25:06,667
while we move
to negotiations.
2606
02:25:06,734 --> 02:25:10,367
We realize that
the settlement will not be
favorable for Saigon,
2607
02:25:10,433 --> 02:25:12,934
and they would fight it.
2608
02:25:13,000 --> 02:25:15,934
Two: the bombing.
2609
02:25:16,000 --> 02:25:19,333
Wheeler, the other chiefs
and Walt Rostow
2610
02:25:19,400 --> 02:25:22,333
all advocate hitting
the remaining targets
2611
02:25:22,400 --> 02:25:23,834
in Hanoi and Haiphong
2612
02:25:23,900 --> 02:25:26,300
and mining and bombing
the harbors.
2613
02:25:26,367 --> 02:25:28,867
With the support
of everyone else,
2614
02:25:28,934 --> 02:25:31,100
I recommend a bombing halt.
2615
02:25:31,166 --> 02:25:34,934
I told you, I'm not
gonna stop the bombing.
2616
02:25:35,000 --> 02:25:36,867
It keeps the lead
out of our boys.
2617
02:25:36,934 --> 02:25:38,867
There's little evidence
to support that, sir,
2618
02:25:38,934 --> 02:25:42,133
and the bombing is going to be
the single greatest issue
2619
02:25:42,200 --> 02:25:43,800
in the presidential campaign.
2620
02:25:43,867 --> 02:25:47,433
The perception is
evolving out there
2621
02:25:47,500 --> 02:25:50,266
that Eugene McCarthy
is the peace candidate,
2622
02:25:50,333 --> 02:25:53,667
and you are the war candidate.
2623
02:25:53,734 --> 02:25:57,133
If McCarthy has a good
showing in New Hampshire,
2624
02:25:57,200 --> 02:25:59,000
I think Bobby will
throw his hat in.
2625
02:25:59,066 --> 02:26:01,934
But he can't beat you if you're
sitting at the peace table.
2626
02:26:02,000 --> 02:26:03,533
Peace table!
2627
02:26:03,600 --> 02:26:05,233
Sell out
South Vietnam?
2628
02:26:05,300 --> 02:26:07,133
This is your advice?
2629
02:26:07,200 --> 02:26:10,500
If I could lay a plan
to win the war before--
2630
02:26:10,567 --> 02:26:11,834
I gotta go on TV
in three weeks
2631
02:26:11,900 --> 02:26:14,166
and explain all this
to the American people!
2632
02:26:14,233 --> 02:26:16,700
And you're telling me to
cut and run, admit defeat.
2633
02:26:16,767 --> 02:26:19,533
That 20,000 American boys
have died for nothing!
2634
02:26:19,600 --> 02:26:22,533
That 20,000 American mothers
weep for nothing!
2635
02:26:22,600 --> 02:26:24,967
The situation
has changed since Tet.
2636
02:26:25,033 --> 02:26:27,100
Yes, it has!
Tet was a failure!
2637
02:26:27,166 --> 02:26:28,734
The enemy has failed
to overrun us.
2638
02:26:28,800 --> 02:26:30,667
We are poised to win,
2639
02:26:30,734 --> 02:26:32,266
and now it's only
you and your people
2640
02:26:32,333 --> 02:26:34,700
who are advising against
the extra effort it'll take
2641
02:26:34,767 --> 02:26:38,100
to turn three years of
miserable war into victory!
2642
02:26:38,166 --> 02:26:41,500
And I'm telling you there is
no victory to be had!
2643
02:26:41,567 --> 02:26:44,467
Not without measures that'll
tear this country apart
2644
02:26:44,533 --> 02:26:46,233
and bring down this
administration!
2645
02:26:46,300 --> 02:26:49,066
I told you to get out of Vietnam
three years ago, Lyndon--
2646
02:26:49,133 --> 02:26:51,233
What about two years ago,
and one, eh?
2647
02:26:51,300 --> 02:26:53,133
You shot down every
bombing pause,
2648
02:26:53,200 --> 02:26:54,734
backed every troop increase!
2649
02:26:54,800 --> 02:26:56,166
Don't you dare!
2650
02:26:56,233 --> 02:26:57,633
Excuse me, Mr. President!
2651
02:26:57,700 --> 02:27:00,166
My counsel has not
deviated one whit!
2652
02:27:00,233 --> 02:27:03,300
My every word, then as now,
2653
02:27:03,367 --> 02:27:05,767
has been informed solely
by my commitment
2654
02:27:05,834 --> 02:27:07,767
to preserve your
presidency
2655
02:27:07,834 --> 02:27:10,533
and establish your place in
this country's history!
2656
02:27:10,600 --> 02:27:13,200
I should have cleaned house
November '63.
2657
02:27:13,266 --> 02:27:14,734
Got rid of all of 'em.
2658
02:27:14,800 --> 02:27:17,400
McNamara, Bundy, Connally.
2659
02:27:17,467 --> 02:27:20,300
Warned me those
fucking Kennedy lovers
2660
02:27:20,367 --> 02:27:22,100
would be disloyal to me!
2661
02:27:22,166 --> 02:27:24,367
All of 'em!
2662
02:27:31,800 --> 02:27:36,667
They all may have
advised you, Mr. President.
2663
02:27:36,734 --> 02:27:40,667
You decided.
2664
02:27:40,734 --> 02:27:43,734
Against all your
natural instincts.
2665
02:27:43,800 --> 02:27:47,333
Against the whole of
your life experience.
2666
02:27:49,433 --> 02:27:51,633
You decided.
2667
02:27:55,867 --> 02:27:59,333
Man, on TV:
Senator Eugene McCarthy,
a dove on Vietnam,
2668
02:27:59,400 --> 02:28:03,100
who was virtually
unknown to voters of this
state two months ago,
2669
02:28:03,166 --> 02:28:04,934
has finished in
a virtual tie
2670
02:28:05,000 --> 02:28:06,800
with the sitting President
of the United States,
2671
02:28:06,867 --> 02:28:08,667
Lyndon Johnson.
2672
02:28:08,734 --> 02:28:11,300
Since polls taken
only a week ago
2673
02:28:11,367 --> 02:28:13,934
predicted Johnson would win
two-thirds of the vote
2674
02:28:14,000 --> 02:28:15,700
and McCarthy only 11%,
2675
02:28:15,767 --> 02:28:17,834
the senator's surprisingly
high turnout
2676
02:28:17,900 --> 02:28:19,300
has shocked the country.
2677
02:28:19,367 --> 02:28:22,834
I run because it is now
unmistakably clear
2678
02:28:22,900 --> 02:28:27,800
that we can change these
disastrous, divisive policies
2679
02:28:27,867 --> 02:28:32,000
only by changing the men who
are now making them.
2680
02:28:32,066 --> 02:28:36,533
I run because I am convinced
that this country
2681
02:28:36,600 --> 02:28:38,633
is on a perilous course
2682
02:28:38,700 --> 02:28:42,500
and because I have
such strong feelings
2683
02:28:42,567 --> 02:28:44,567
about what must be done,
2684
02:28:44,633 --> 02:28:48,934
and I feel that I am obliged
to do all that I can.
2685
02:28:49,000 --> 02:28:51,066
Oh, I was there.
2686
02:28:51,133 --> 02:28:53,233
I was there when you told your
brother to go into that place.
2687
02:28:53,300 --> 02:28:54,600
I was there.
2688
02:28:54,667 --> 02:28:56,266
And now I'm paying
for it,
2689
02:28:56,333 --> 02:29:00,400
day after day after day
while you cut me to pieces!
2690
02:29:00,467 --> 02:29:05,133
There's blood on your hands,
you traitor!
2691
02:29:05,200 --> 02:29:06,567
Our troops are being killed
2692
02:29:06,633 --> 02:29:09,734
by the bullets and the mines
of the south.
2693
02:29:09,800 --> 02:29:11,600
If by ending the
bombing of the north
2694
02:29:11,667 --> 02:29:13,767
we can bring peace to
South Vietnam,
2695
02:29:13,834 --> 02:29:17,367
then we will save the lives of
thousands of our young men
2696
02:29:17,433 --> 02:29:20,266
and thousands of Vietnamese.
2697
02:29:38,100 --> 02:29:40,033
Yes, Mr. President?
2698
02:29:40,100 --> 02:29:42,633
I talked to Mills.
2699
02:29:42,700 --> 02:29:45,266
He won't back a war surtax
2700
02:29:45,333 --> 02:29:48,467
unless we go on TV
and announce deep cuts.
2701
02:29:48,533 --> 02:29:50,033
I want you
to go up there
2702
02:29:50,100 --> 02:29:52,300
and talk to everybody
at Ways and Means.
2703
02:29:52,367 --> 02:29:54,233
I'm meeting with five of them
in the morning, sir.
2704
02:29:54,300 --> 02:29:56,767
Take Ackley up with you
to back up the numbers.
2705
02:29:56,834 --> 02:29:59,200
They don't believe anything
out of the White House anymore.
2706
02:29:59,266 --> 02:30:01,100
It's a good idea.
2707
02:30:01,166 --> 02:30:02,367
Anything else,
Mr. President?
2708
02:30:02,433 --> 02:30:04,500
I...
2709
02:30:08,567 --> 02:30:10,367
Are you all right,
Mr. President?
2710
02:30:12,967 --> 02:30:15,834
Uh, I'm all right, Joe.
2711
02:30:21,000 --> 02:30:22,734
Joe?
2712
02:30:25,266 --> 02:30:29,000
Senator Kennedy's speech,
who wrote it for him?
2713
02:30:31,934 --> 02:30:33,867
This guy Walinsky
on his staff's
2714
02:30:33,934 --> 02:30:35,100
been writing
a lot of his stuff.
2715
02:30:35,166 --> 02:30:38,867
I don't know.
Maybe Schlesinger, Sorensen.
2716
02:30:38,934 --> 02:30:40,166
Goodwin.
2717
02:30:40,233 --> 02:30:45,433
I think he was
involved, yes.
2718
02:30:47,000 --> 02:30:48,934
All right, Joe.
Thanks.
2719
02:30:49,000 --> 02:30:51,100
Yes, sir.
2720
02:30:58,433 --> 02:31:00,767
Dr. King, on TV:
I could never again
raise my voice
2721
02:31:00,834 --> 02:31:03,934
against the violence of
the oppressed in the ghettos
2722
02:31:04,000 --> 02:31:06,133
without having spoken
first clearly
2723
02:31:06,200 --> 02:31:09,600
to the greatest purveyor
of violence in the world today:
2724
02:31:09,667 --> 02:31:11,867
my own government.
2725
02:31:20,166 --> 02:31:22,300
Protestors:
How many kids did you
kill today?
2726
02:31:22,367 --> 02:31:27,734
Hey, hey, LBJ! How many kids
did you kill today?
2727
02:31:27,800 --> 02:31:29,700
Man, on TV:
The largest antiwar
demonstration yet
2728
02:31:29,767 --> 02:31:31,500
brought hundreds
of thousands of protesters
2729
02:31:31,567 --> 02:31:33,567
into the streets of American
cities.
2730
02:31:33,633 --> 02:31:37,200
The radicals say that since
peaceful demonstrations
won't end the war,
2731
02:31:37,266 --> 02:31:40,133
they're ready to move
from protest to resistance.
2732
02:31:40,200 --> 02:31:43,166
With talk of full-scale
rebellion sweeping the country
2733
02:31:43,233 --> 02:31:45,300
from college campuses
to the inner cities,
2734
02:31:45,367 --> 02:31:47,333
the mood is turning ugly,
2735
02:31:47,400 --> 02:31:48,867
and there's a dangerous sense
2736
02:31:48,934 --> 02:31:50,500
that the nation's
political life
2737
02:31:50,567 --> 02:31:51,834
is spinning out of control.
2738
02:31:51,900 --> 02:31:54,633
For it seems now more
certain than ever
2739
02:31:54,700 --> 02:31:56,867
that the bloody
experience of Vietnam
2740
02:31:56,934 --> 02:31:59,166
is to end in a stalemate.
2741
02:31:59,233 --> 02:32:01,600
This summer's
almost certain standoff
2742
02:32:01,667 --> 02:32:05,400
will either end in real
give-and-take negotiations
2743
02:32:05,467 --> 02:32:07,700
or terrible escalation.
2744
02:32:07,767 --> 02:32:10,867
But it is increasingly clear
to this reporter
2745
02:32:10,934 --> 02:32:13,867
that the only rational
way out, then,
2746
02:32:13,934 --> 02:32:15,367
will be to negotiate.
2747
02:32:15,433 --> 02:32:18,700
Not as victors,
but as an honorable people
2748
02:32:18,767 --> 02:32:21,867
who lived up to their pledge
to defend democracy
2749
02:32:21,934 --> 02:32:24,567
and did the best they could.
2750
02:32:24,633 --> 02:32:27,166
This is Walter Cronkite.
Good night.
2751
02:33:36,033 --> 02:33:39,433
Well, say what you think.
2752
02:33:41,266 --> 02:33:43,433
All right.
2753
02:33:43,500 --> 02:33:44,667
It's tough.
2754
02:33:44,734 --> 02:33:46,266
And effective.
2755
02:33:46,333 --> 02:33:52,100
But the music in it
is sad and sour to the ear.
2756
02:33:52,166 --> 02:33:54,133
And I don't know that
any speechwriter
2757
02:33:54,200 --> 02:33:56,367
could have made it sing.
2758
02:33:58,433 --> 02:34:01,066
I got a hundred bills
in committee.
2759
02:34:01,133 --> 02:34:03,533
They'll never see
the light of day.
2760
02:34:03,600 --> 02:34:05,867
But I think I can pass
a thousand bills.
2761
02:34:05,934 --> 02:34:07,800
More education,
more health care,
2762
02:34:07,867 --> 02:34:09,400
more rights.
2763
02:34:09,467 --> 02:34:11,333
But it wouldn't matter.
2764
02:34:11,400 --> 02:34:13,734
'Cause it seems nothing I say,
no matter how I say it,
2765
02:34:13,800 --> 02:34:17,300
could ever bring this country
together again.
2766
02:34:18,734 --> 02:34:23,166
Then perhaps
eloquence of speech
2767
02:34:23,233 --> 02:34:25,200
is no longer the answer,
2768
02:34:25,266 --> 02:34:27,433
but eloquence of action.
2769
02:34:37,100 --> 02:34:38,500
Mr. Secretary.
2770
02:34:38,567 --> 02:34:39,734
Would you be kind enough
to make sure
2771
02:34:39,800 --> 02:34:42,000
that the president
sees that this evening?
2772
02:34:42,066 --> 02:34:44,033
- Clark.
- Lady Bird.
2773
02:34:44,100 --> 02:34:47,700
I promised that he'd
have those budget figures
by the end of the day.
2774
02:34:47,767 --> 02:34:49,367
Oh, he's right inside.
2775
02:34:49,433 --> 02:34:52,300
No, no,
I won't disturb him.
2776
02:34:52,367 --> 02:34:53,734
Thank you. Good night.
2777
02:34:53,800 --> 02:34:55,934
Uh, Clark.
2778
02:34:57,433 --> 02:34:59,767
Uh, Clark, I...
2779
02:34:59,834 --> 02:35:02,667
I got the speech here.
2780
02:35:02,734 --> 02:35:06,400
I need your help with it.
2781
02:35:06,467 --> 02:35:09,133
You know that I'm at your
service, Mr. President.
2782
02:35:09,200 --> 02:35:10,967
I know, old friend.
2783
02:36:09,433 --> 02:36:12,567
Good evening,
my fellow Americans.
2784
02:36:12,633 --> 02:36:14,934
Tonight, I want to
speak to you
2785
02:36:15,000 --> 02:36:19,200
of peace in Vietnam and
Southeast Asia.
2786
02:36:19,266 --> 02:36:21,767
We are prepared to move
immediately
2787
02:36:21,834 --> 02:36:24,600
towards peace
through negotiations.
2788
02:36:24,667 --> 02:36:28,000
We are reducing,
substantially reducing,
2789
02:36:28,066 --> 02:36:30,400
the present level of
hostilities,
2790
02:36:30,467 --> 02:36:35,066
and we are doing so unilaterally
and at once.
2791
02:36:35,133 --> 02:36:41,000
Tonight, I have ordered our
aircraft and our naval vessels
2792
02:36:41,066 --> 02:36:44,967
to make no more attacks
on North Vietnam
2793
02:36:45,033 --> 02:36:48,900
except in the area north of
the demilitarized zone
2794
02:36:48,967 --> 02:36:51,533
where the continuing
enemy buildup
2795
02:36:51,600 --> 02:36:55,233
directly threatens allied
forward positions.
2796
02:36:55,300 --> 02:36:58,633
The area in which we are
stopping our attacks
2797
02:36:58,700 --> 02:37:03,333
includes almost 90% of
North Vietnam's population
2798
02:37:03,400 --> 02:37:05,200
and most of its territory.
2799
02:37:05,266 --> 02:37:08,533
Our purpose in this action
2800
02:37:08,600 --> 02:37:10,567
is to bring about a reduction
2801
02:37:10,633 --> 02:37:13,266
in the level of violence
that now exists.
2802
02:37:13,333 --> 02:37:17,133
It is to save the lives
of brave men
2803
02:37:17,200 --> 02:37:20,266
and to save the lives of
innocent women and children.
2804
02:37:20,333 --> 02:37:23,834
Now, as in the past,
2805
02:37:23,900 --> 02:37:27,433
the United States is ready
to send its representatives
2806
02:37:27,500 --> 02:37:30,400
in any forum at any time
2807
02:37:30,467 --> 02:37:36,367
to discuss the means of bringing
this ugly war to an end.
2808
02:37:36,433 --> 02:37:41,800
There is a division
in the American house now.
2809
02:37:41,867 --> 02:37:44,767
There is divisiveness among us
all tonight.
2810
02:37:44,834 --> 02:37:48,700
With America's sons in
the fields far away,
2811
02:37:48,767 --> 02:37:53,300
with America's future under
challenge right here at home,
2812
02:37:53,367 --> 02:37:56,800
with our hopes and the world's
hopes for peace
2813
02:37:56,867 --> 02:37:59,567
in the balance every day,
2814
02:37:59,633 --> 02:38:01,934
I do not believe
that I should
2815
02:38:02,000 --> 02:38:04,567
devote an hour or a day
of my time
2816
02:38:04,633 --> 02:38:08,200
to any personal partisan
causes
2817
02:38:08,266 --> 02:38:13,066
or to any duties other than the
awesome duties of this office,
2818
02:38:13,133 --> 02:38:16,200
the presidency of your
country.
2819
02:38:18,266 --> 02:38:22,033
Accordingly,
I shall not seek,
2820
02:38:22,100 --> 02:38:23,934
and I will not accept,
2821
02:38:24,000 --> 02:38:26,667
the nomination of my party
2822
02:38:26,734 --> 02:38:31,867
for another term as your
president.
2823
02:38:35,433 --> 02:38:38,900
But let men everywhere know,
however,
2824
02:38:38,967 --> 02:38:41,533
that a strong
and a confident
2825
02:38:41,600 --> 02:38:44,934
and a vigilant America stands
ready tonight
2826
02:38:45,000 --> 02:38:46,934
to seek an honorable peace
2827
02:38:47,000 --> 02:38:49,066
and stands ready tonight
2828
02:38:49,133 --> 02:38:51,000
to defend an honored cause,
2829
02:38:51,066 --> 02:38:54,433
whatever the price,
whatever the burden,
2830
02:38:54,500 --> 02:38:59,800
whatever the sacrifice that
duty may require.
2831
02:38:59,867 --> 02:39:02,767
Thank you for listening.
2832
02:39:02,834 --> 02:39:07,500
Good night,
and God bless you all.
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