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♪ But I bet we
wouldn't get too far ♪
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♪ Before the transformation
takes ♪
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♪ And bloodlust tanks
and crave gets slaked ♪
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♪ My mind has changed
my body's frame ♪
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♪ But God, I like it ♪
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♪ My heart's aflame,
my body's strained ♪
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♪ But God, I like it ♪
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♪ My mind has changed,
my body's frame ♪
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♪ But God, I like it ♪
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♪ My heart's aflame,
my body's strained ♪
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♪ But God, I like it ♪
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♪ Charge me your day rate,
I'll turn you out in kind ♪
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♪ When the moon
is round and full ♪
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♪ Gonna teach you tricks
that'll blow your mongrel mind ♪
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♪ Baby doll, I recognize ♪
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♪ You're a hideous thing
inside ♪
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♪ If ever there were
a lucky kind ♪
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♪ It's you, you, you, you ♪
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♪ I know it's strange,
another way to get to know you ♪
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♪ You'll never know ♪
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♪ Unless we go
so let me show you ♪
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♪ I know it's strange... ♪
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It's an energy thing.
It moves around a lot.
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The process of identification
is I'm right there with you.
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In the height of the moment,
I say, "Assassin."
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Because that's what I feel like.
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I'm locked in,
I got my sights on you,
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and I'm gonna take you out.
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Early on,
I tapped in to that instinct,
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and that's where I want
to go every time.
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I want that feeling.
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'Cause I'm just after
that one thing.
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I'm not after your soul.
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I'm after your fucking aura.
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Four-one-six, I need
a notification to Bellevue.
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I have a male patient
in his 40s, Mick Rock.
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Robert Oscar Charlie King.
Patient is conscious.
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Rule out acute M.I.
Vital signs 140/80...
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♪ So messed up,
I want you here ♪
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♪ In my room,
I want you here ♪
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♪ Now we're gonna be
face-to-face ♪
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♪ And I'll lay right down
in my favorite place ♪
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♪ And now
I wanna be your dog ♪
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♪ Now I wanna be your dog ♪
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♪ Now I wanna be your dog ♪
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♪ Come on ♪
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People often ask about,
you know,
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"When you nearly died, Mick,
do you regret?"
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I mean, technically, you know,
on a karmic level,
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I kind of regret
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that I got myself
into that state,
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but the other part of me says,
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"Could it have been
any different?"
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And every time I ask myself
that question, I say, "No."
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Mick! Mick! Mick!
Mick! Mick! Mick!
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I don't want to get
too mystical about it,
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but I do believe
that everybody has a destiny,
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but that not everybody
grasps that destiny.
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Mine was pretty clear
when I look back,
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and especially in the
fucking name, Mick Rock.
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Is that your real name?
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It is Michael David Rock.
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That was your dad's name?
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Rock was his name, yeah.
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It was just good timing,
wasn't it, really?
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Photographer,
Mick Rock, joins us.
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His photos make up
a large part of David Bowie...
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I just followed my
instincts. I knew what I liked.
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I was drawn, you know,
to the good,
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the bad, and the wicked.
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I've lived a very wild life
because, you know,
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I've been hanging out
with a lot of very wild people.
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And the camera just kind of
led me by the nose almost,
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and I never looked back.
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Just kept going
and going and going.
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Legendary Mick Rock.
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This is just, I mean, come on.
Freddie Mercury and Queen.
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There it is, Lou Reed, my man.
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I learned a lot from Lou, yeah.
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Absolutely, yeah.
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Not all my best habits,
I might add.
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I always knew
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that this was the life
I was meant to live.
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I just had to, you know,
make sure
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in the final analysis that
it made some kind of sense.
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Yeah, I came back here
in my dreams.
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I even teleported once or twice
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in a certain state
of psychedelic inebriation.
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Yeah, this place
gets into your skull.
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No doubt about it.
It's a beautiful place.
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In this environment,
you could be in any century.
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I think that enabled
my imagination to run,
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shall we say,
a little frantically.
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My mother fueled
a certain insecurity in me
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that the only way
I could get an identity
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was to get into Cambridge.
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It wasn't easy to do for someone
born of extremely modest means.
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It did teach me something
about projection.
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If you project
strongly enough,
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and I sometimes
in my early days, you think,
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"Well, I got there
'cause my mother projected it."
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That's where I got my head
fuller with all these,
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you know, great poets,
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zoomed out of their brains,
coming up with great art.
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The symbolist poets.
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The English Romantics.
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And, of course,
the American Beat poets.
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Arthur Rimbaud was, like,
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the ultimate realization
of the symbolist poet.
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He would go, like,
for several days
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without food and sleep
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and then he'd whack a little bit
of chemical inside himself.
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He worked in a purely
associative way.
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The idea,
the idea of these people
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and the idea
of the kind of lives they led
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started to confirm
my suspicions that,
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indeed, there was...
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There was
a more interesting life
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than the one
I'd had as a child.
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It wasn't a bad life.
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The lysergic experience
opened up my third eye,
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you might say.
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I remember the first time
I went up to see this guy.
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He was an artist.
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He had a bottle of the
liquid stuff with a dropper.
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And he got out
the blotting paper.
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He couldn't have known
how strong,
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but this stuff, I remember.
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Once it kicked in,
the entire universe,
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like, rushed through my body.
I saw everything, everything.
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It definitely, I mean,
intensified all the colors,
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intensified the frame.
It intensified everything.
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The altered state was
something that was there.
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I mean,
it had become part of me.
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The yoga fortified.
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The practices of Yogi Bhajan
enabled access.
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You know, you could be
in a non-chemical state
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and you could still start
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to get traces
of this perception.
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And then when
you combine the two,
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of course, whoopsie daisy.
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Photography wandered idly
into my life.
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There was a chemical experience.
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The chemical overload.
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Well, I got the excitement
of the...
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Every time I pressed
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that shutter,
it was like an explosion.
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It looked different
every time I clicked it.
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So, there was this world
of entertainment in the camera.
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And then about three days later,
I was back in my friend's room
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and I saw the camera,
'cause it was his, not mine.
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And I said to him,
"Oh, I think I, you know,
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shot some film the other night.
I bet that's interesting."
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Apparently, there was
nothing in the camera.
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But still,
that's when this word,
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you know,
you can put it in quotes,
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"magic" started
to get into my mind.
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♪ Lime and limpid green,
a second scene ♪
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♪ A fight between the blue
you once knew... ♪
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'67,
that's the summer of love.
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And here I am,
you know, Fanny Golightly.
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I had a habit of staring
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at friends' faces
under certain circumstances
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'cause you could see
the whole of the universe
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since the beginning of time.
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It would revolve and roll.
I remember that so vividly.
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I would take pictures
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of lady friends
or girlfriends of friends,
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and it wasn't that long,
and somebody offered me
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a fiver to take photos
of a local band,
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and my brain went clunk.
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Hello, hello, hello.
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In the beginning was Syd.
Psychedelic Syd.
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Like nothing
I'd ever seen before.
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In fact, like nothing,
really, anyone in England,
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certainly, had ever seen before.
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Had a band called Pink Floyd.
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♪ Honey, love you,
honey little ♪
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♪ Honey funny,
sunny morning ♪
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♪ Love you more funny... ♪
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Syd had actually
left Pink Floyd
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and was living in
relative obscurity.
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He asked me to take the cover
photo for his solo album,
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The Madcap Laughs.
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I didn't really have any plans.
It was simply to shoot El Syd.
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And Iggy opened the door
in the all together.
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All together, now, Miss Iggy.
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♪ Honey, love you,
honey little ♪
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♪ Honey funny,
sunny morning... ♪
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She was holding company
with Syd.
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But, of course,
the gift was the floorboards.
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He had moved in
not long beforehand
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and he was painting
the floorboards.
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He used to paint over all the...
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I mean, there were
dog-ends buried in there.
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He didn't clean the floors
before he slapped the paint on.
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♪ You are a nice little one
to put it all around ♪
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I only had daylight film,
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and that had
to be push processed.
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That's why they have this kind
of painterly look about them,
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because technically,
they're fucked.
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♪ Honey, love you,
honey little ♪
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♪ Honey funny,
sunny morning... ♪
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See, that should really have
been the cover
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of Madcap Laughs.
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See the crop?
That's what me and Syd wanted.
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I saw him like a soft poet.
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Like a Baudelaire or Rimbaud
or these characters
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that I'd been studying
at Cambridge.
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Not long before
those sessions,
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I took a fucking
acid trip with Syd.
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Just me and Syd,
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listening to music,
lot of laughing about.
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I remember he'd roll around.
He'd piss his knickers.
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Syd Barrett on acid,
he's such a gentle soul.
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I was an outsider with this
little group of hip characters,
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and you'd spend all your time
with these people
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who wouldn't hang out
with anybody that wasn't.
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So, that feeling of being
outside was also a warm feeling
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'cause you're inside this
other little cocoon
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of like-minded people.
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Very strange how it
all turned out,
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though, you know?
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Syd in the garden.
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Syd was out of London,
was living in Cambridge,
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when I was starting
to write little bits
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and pieces
for different magazines,
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and this I actually did
for Rolling Stone Magazine.
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Syd lost interest.
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He never did another
photo session,
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he never did another interview.
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He actually said
all he ever wanted to do
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as a kid was jump around
and play the guitar,
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but he couldn't
get there anymore.
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The tickets available
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for tonight's performance
are in the box office.
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The box office is
in the front foyer
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on the right-hand side.
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So, it was Marc Bolan
of T. Rex who first popped up
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with the makeup
and the Vaudevillian clothes.
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However, something more
fascinating was looming.
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It was also very unlikely
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the carrot-colored hair-do
and the jumpsuit,
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the red plastic boots
and the mismatched eyeballs,
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no seasoned betting man
would've backed this one.
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But I knew what I liked,
248
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and that was enough
to make the first move.
249
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And I remember the night
250
00:17:53,137 --> 00:17:55,090
I peeked around
his dressing-room door.
251
00:17:55,569 --> 00:17:58,769
"I like your name.
It can't be real," he told me.
252
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There and then,
he invited me back to his house
253
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and we stayed up all night
254
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and talked about
all kinds of things.
255
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There was a certain awareness
256
00:18:30,802 --> 00:18:34,994
of being with that level
of intelligence in the room.
257
00:18:35,377 --> 00:18:37,072
You know,
the pictures got elevated.
258
00:18:37,074 --> 00:18:39,122
They acquired
this other quality.
259
00:18:42,578 --> 00:18:45,747
I remember taking them up
to David's office.
260
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His manager said,
"David says that you see him
261
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the way he sees himself."
262
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♪ I'm an alligator ♪
263
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♪ I'm a mama,
papa comin' for you... ♪
264
00:19:32,849 --> 00:19:34,642
It was a Friday night,
I do believe.
265
00:19:34,897 --> 00:19:36,306
Oxford Town Hall.
266
00:19:36,562 --> 00:19:38,258
It's his biggest
audience to date.
267
00:19:38,641 --> 00:19:40,978
People were starting
to notice him.
268
00:19:41,425 --> 00:19:43,471
The encore was coming,
and I ran 'round.
269
00:19:43,473 --> 00:19:44,976
I had been up front.
270
00:19:44,978 --> 00:19:47,119
You can see that from some
of the other pictures
271
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on the contact sheet.
272
00:19:49,457 --> 00:19:51,538
I was just on the side
of the stage.
273
00:19:51,794 --> 00:19:53,296
David hadn't announced to me,
274
00:19:53,298 --> 00:19:54,959
that he was gonna do
anything in particular.
275
00:19:54,961 --> 00:19:56,496
I don't think
he did with anybody.
276
00:19:56,498 --> 00:19:58,803
♪ Don't fake it, baby ♪
277
00:19:59,762 --> 00:20:02,352
♪ Lay the real thing on me... ♪
278
00:20:02,354 --> 00:20:05,647
But what he was planning to do
was simply bite Mick's guitar.
279
00:20:05,649 --> 00:20:08,113
He said to me, "Did you get it?
Did you get it?"
280
00:20:09,521 --> 00:20:11,857
♪ Make me, baby... ♪
281
00:20:13,042 --> 00:20:14,703
The timing couldn't
have been better
282
00:20:14,705 --> 00:20:16,912
'cause it was as the closets
were opening up
283
00:20:16,914 --> 00:20:18,098
and, you know,
284
00:20:19,250 --> 00:20:21,490
there was David
chomping away on Mick's rod.
285
00:20:22,098 --> 00:20:23,600
That was a big deal,
286
00:20:23,602 --> 00:20:26,512
in terms of a bigger audience
for my personal work.
287
00:20:26,514 --> 00:20:28,274
People started asking
who took it.
288
00:20:30,514 --> 00:20:32,879
I hadn't done a lot of
performance photography
289
00:20:32,881 --> 00:20:34,449
until David came along.
290
00:20:35,121 --> 00:20:37,295
And actually, you look at the
early pictures I did of David,
291
00:20:37,297 --> 00:20:41,583
and you can see there's a
certain looseness that later on,
292
00:20:41,585 --> 00:20:43,823
you know, I could get
great shapes in the shot.
293
00:20:43,825 --> 00:20:46,384
♪ Freak out
in a moonage daydream ♪
294
00:20:46,386 --> 00:20:48,241
♪ Oh, yeah ♪
295
00:20:57,202 --> 00:20:58,799
We were engaging
296
00:20:58,801 --> 00:21:01,042
in a certain amount
of propaganda,
297
00:21:01,328 --> 00:21:02,706
and I was a true believer.
298
00:21:04,049 --> 00:21:06,095
♪ Strung out on lasers
and slash back blazers ♪
299
00:21:06,097 --> 00:21:07,632
I mean, this moment in time,
300
00:21:07,634 --> 00:21:09,682
he did not need bodyguards.
301
00:21:09,938 --> 00:21:13,264
It was all designed
to give people the idea,
302
00:21:13,266 --> 00:21:14,387
"Who's this guy?
303
00:21:15,698 --> 00:21:16,975
We don't know who he is,
but he's got these bodyguards
304
00:21:16,977 --> 00:21:19,346
and a personal photographer.
He must be a big deal."
305
00:21:21,106 --> 00:21:22,418
♪ Get back on it ♪
306
00:21:23,121 --> 00:21:26,002
♪ Jean Genie lives
on his back ♪
307
00:21:26,738 --> 00:21:29,071
♪ The Jean Genie
loves chimney stacks... ♪
308
00:21:29,073 --> 00:21:29,906
He had a mission,
309
00:21:30,993 --> 00:21:31,953
which he spelled out
to me very early on.
310
00:21:33,169 --> 00:21:35,859
Ziggy Stardust, as an album,
is all about stardom.
311
00:21:37,201 --> 00:21:38,607
I mean,
he's had this whiff of it,
312
00:21:38,609 --> 00:21:39,794
but he's not a star.
313
00:21:40,817 --> 00:21:43,282
When the album is made,
the album made him a star.
314
00:22:22,642 --> 00:22:24,431
Let me put
my best damn knickers on.
315
00:22:24,433 --> 00:22:26,607
I remember talking to
Terry O'Neill about this once.
316
00:22:26,609 --> 00:22:28,655
We both did a radio show
a few years ago,
317
00:22:28,657 --> 00:22:30,959
and he said he never
really hung out
318
00:22:30,961 --> 00:22:32,113
with the people he photographed.
319
00:22:33,938 --> 00:22:36,114
I was kind of like,
you know...
320
00:22:36,914 --> 00:22:39,954
Especially in these early years,
but that's how it all grew.
321
00:22:44,593 --> 00:22:48,016
I don't think they felt
that I was an outsider.
322
00:22:48,018 --> 00:22:50,514
I was part of the fabric.
323
00:22:50,897 --> 00:22:54,066
I was celebrating,
and I think they all knew that.
324
00:22:59,378 --> 00:23:01,455
So, I was a natural, organic,
325
00:23:01,457 --> 00:23:04,499
you know, Joseph Goebbels
for the piece and the time.
326
00:23:05,169 --> 00:23:06,738
And I came very cheap.
327
00:23:08,722 --> 00:23:11,858
♪ It's a god-awful
small affair ♪
328
00:23:12,977 --> 00:23:16,018
♪ To the girl
with the mousy hair ♪
329
00:23:16,657 --> 00:23:19,569
♪ But her mummy
is yelling "No" ♪
330
00:23:20,528 --> 00:23:23,826
♪ And her daddy
has told her to go ♪
331
00:23:24,785 --> 00:23:27,665
♪ But her friend
is nowhere to be seen ♪
332
00:23:28,337 --> 00:23:31,666
♪ Now she walks through
her sunken dream ♪
333
00:23:32,049 --> 00:23:34,899
♪ To the seat
with the clearest view ♪
334
00:23:35,922 --> 00:23:38,766
♪ And she's hooked
to the silver screen... ♪
335
00:23:38,768 --> 00:23:41,362
This must've been shot in 1973.
336
00:23:42,194 --> 00:23:45,779
I suppose minimalistic would
be an inadequate description,
337
00:23:46,353 --> 00:23:48,370
but, of course,
I was particularly lucky,
338
00:23:49,105 --> 00:23:51,538
as I was often,
especially in those days,
339
00:23:51,857 --> 00:23:53,522
to have this amazing subject.
340
00:23:53,777 --> 00:23:57,807
♪ Sailors fighting
in the dance hall ♪
341
00:23:57,809 --> 00:24:01,778
♪ Oh, man,
look at those cavemen go ♪
342
00:24:03,442 --> 00:24:06,386
♪ It's the freakiest show ♪
343
00:24:07,058 --> 00:24:08,430
♪ Take a look at the lawman... ♪
344
00:24:08,432 --> 00:24:10,162
I mean, what is he, you know?
345
00:24:11,025 --> 00:24:13,296
Whatever it was, he gave off
a certain kind of awareness,
346
00:24:13,298 --> 00:24:14,738
and I fed off it.
347
00:24:15,248 --> 00:24:16,881
I was open to it.
348
00:24:17,776 --> 00:24:20,399
♪ He's in
the best-selling show... ♪
349
00:24:21,810 --> 00:24:28,530
♪ Is there life on Mars? ♪
350
00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:16,529
♪ White light's surely
gonna make me blind ♪
351
00:25:17,361 --> 00:25:19,603
♪ White shaping way down
to my toes ♪
352
00:25:20,274 --> 00:25:22,094
♪ White light
could kill me now... ♪
353
00:25:22,096 --> 00:25:23,054
It was the encore,
354
00:25:23,056 --> 00:25:25,230
and David had
already been playing
355
00:25:25,232 --> 00:25:29,008
"I'm Waiting for My Man"
and "White Light / White Heat."
356
00:25:29,010 --> 00:25:32,082
Anyway, come the encore,
up popped Lou.
357
00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:34,577
For whatever reason,
I was near the back.
358
00:25:35,474 --> 00:25:37,265
I didn't get
any close shots of them.
359
00:25:37,521 --> 00:25:39,311
Perhaps I'd gone out
for a piss or something.
360
00:25:39,313 --> 00:25:40,273
I don't know.
361
00:25:43,537 --> 00:25:46,288
I remember noticing even
though it was David's concert
362
00:25:46,290 --> 00:25:48,495
and Lou had come on
for the encore,
363
00:25:48,497 --> 00:25:52,655
David left Lou alone.
He did not go to Lou's mike.
364
00:25:52,657 --> 00:25:54,610
He treated him
with great deference.
365
00:25:55,217 --> 00:25:58,894
I always saw them symbolically,
the light and the dark.
366
00:25:58,896 --> 00:26:02,290
They had a certain symbiosis.
367
00:26:08,561 --> 00:26:10,799
New York,
The Velvet Underground,
368
00:26:10,801 --> 00:26:13,168
decadence, drugs, kinky sex.
369
00:26:13,170 --> 00:26:15,154
♪ I'm waiting for my man... ♪
370
00:26:16,753 --> 00:26:20,625
This photograph, for
whatever reason, reflects that.
371
00:26:21,746 --> 00:26:25,266
A cold shiver went up me spine
when he hit the stage.
372
00:26:25,554 --> 00:26:28,433
He was sporting
this huge Gibson guitar,
373
00:26:28,656 --> 00:26:31,022
and the makeup, the white face
374
00:26:31,024 --> 00:26:33,458
and all the darkness
around the eyes.
375
00:26:34,096 --> 00:26:37,169
♪ I'm waiting for my man ♪
376
00:26:38,961 --> 00:26:41,008
He could tell even
from this contact sheet
377
00:26:41,010 --> 00:26:42,546
that there was something
about that.
378
00:26:43,057 --> 00:26:46,063
And then I made the prints,
and that's, "Ah."
379
00:26:46,065 --> 00:26:47,854
That was the coup de grâce
380
00:26:47,856 --> 00:26:49,777
when it fell out of focus
in the printing.
381
00:26:51,697 --> 00:26:53,234
Bingo, there's the cover.
382
00:26:53,521 --> 00:26:56,112
♪ You're chasin'
all women around... ♪
383
00:26:56,114 --> 00:26:57,454
It's a performance image,
384
00:26:57,456 --> 00:26:59,022
but a lot of people
don't realize that
385
00:26:59,024 --> 00:27:00,209
because it's so still,
386
00:27:00,784 --> 00:27:02,641
as indeed is
the Raw Power cover.
387
00:27:02,833 --> 00:27:04,817
To me, they're a pair.
Same place.
388
00:27:05,265 --> 00:27:06,961
The Americans in the mix.
389
00:27:16,530 --> 00:27:17,939
Woo!
390
00:27:22,897 --> 00:27:24,370
He looked like
a fucking iguana.
391
00:27:25,201 --> 00:27:28,111
That worked because the way
the light and the whole thing,
392
00:27:28,113 --> 00:27:32,463
the motherfucker has
the stillness of an iguana.
393
00:27:32,465 --> 00:27:35,474
♪ Out of my mind
on Saturday night... ♪
394
00:27:36,018 --> 00:27:38,287
Where's the bugger?
That one.
395
00:27:38,289 --> 00:27:39,762
That one and
the Raw Power cover.
396
00:27:40,434 --> 00:27:43,663
Rock 'n' roll,
nailed every centimeter of it
397
00:27:43,665 --> 00:27:46,159
in that one shot.
If that ain't rock 'n' roll,
398
00:27:46,161 --> 00:27:47,822
then rock 'n' roll
was a wank job.
399
00:27:47,824 --> 00:27:51,279
♪ Up all night till I blow... ♪
400
00:27:51,281 --> 00:27:53,134
"I wanna be
your motherfucking dog."
401
00:27:53,136 --> 00:27:55,953
"I wanna be your dog."
He would sing.
402
00:27:56,529 --> 00:27:58,447
I mean, it was
a complete revolution,
403
00:27:58,449 --> 00:27:59,761
and most people ignored it.
404
00:28:00,434 --> 00:28:02,225
♪ Blow away ♪
405
00:28:03,377 --> 00:28:04,594
♪ I feel all right ♪
406
00:28:05,360 --> 00:28:06,643
♪ I feel all right ♪
407
00:28:08,176 --> 00:28:10,033
The way the audience was,
they were sitting,
408
00:28:10,352 --> 00:28:12,209
which as I look back,
that's really weird.
409
00:28:12,465 --> 00:28:13,777
He walked into the audience,
410
00:28:15,185 --> 00:28:16,686
but there was no way he could
really jump into the audience.
411
00:28:16,688 --> 00:28:19,183
♪ Baby, burn my heart... ♪
412
00:28:19,185 --> 00:28:20,913
I felt like a big-game hunter.
413
00:28:21,361 --> 00:28:23,984
I mean, I was so glued,
you know, to the viewer,
414
00:28:23,986 --> 00:28:26,354
and fucking you just keep at it.
415
00:28:27,632 --> 00:28:29,617
♪ Baby, oh, baby ♪
416
00:28:30,224 --> 00:28:32,271
♪ Burn my heart all night ♪
417
00:28:32,273 --> 00:28:36,270
I could get a fixation
developed very early in me
418
00:28:36,272 --> 00:28:38,322
that, you know, fixation thing.
419
00:28:39,216 --> 00:28:40,818
The thing that nearly killed me.
420
00:28:56,114 --> 00:29:00,015
I saw all those characters.
They were always mythological.
421
00:29:00,017 --> 00:29:01,329
They're always, like, shimrons.
422
00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:05,170
Syd Barrett was a shimron,
Bowie, Iggy, Lou.
423
00:29:05,905 --> 00:29:07,087
They were almost not human.
424
00:29:07,089 --> 00:29:08,622
They were almost like something
425
00:29:08,624 --> 00:29:10,064
that come out
of the woodlands, you know?
426
00:29:10,066 --> 00:29:13,650
Something...
They were magical to me.
427
00:30:06,449 --> 00:30:07,376
He wanted it.
428
00:30:07,378 --> 00:30:09,007
He was talking
about the stardom.
429
00:30:09,009 --> 00:30:11,374
Like my mother,
I'd seen the projecting,
430
00:30:11,376 --> 00:30:13,106
and somehow it had worked.
431
00:30:13,681 --> 00:30:15,921
Mother projected me
to Cambridge, though.
432
00:30:17,009 --> 00:30:18,798
These...
433
00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:21,425
...powers of concentration,
I mean, who are you?
434
00:30:21,745 --> 00:30:23,632
Really, who am I?
Who am I?
435
00:30:23,634 --> 00:30:25,458
Ashes to ashes,
dust to dust.
436
00:30:25,681 --> 00:30:28,018
But for a while,
I'm this Mick Rock character.
437
00:30:35,506 --> 00:30:37,202
I was so enamored...
438
00:30:37,937 --> 00:30:41,170
So enamored of these auras
and the way I saw these people,
439
00:30:41,970 --> 00:30:43,378
and that was so strong.
440
00:30:43,633 --> 00:30:44,752
And you look at
the pictures, you go,
441
00:30:44,754 --> 00:30:45,968
"For somebody who didn't have
a particularly
442
00:30:45,970 --> 00:30:48,818
well-developed personality,
they are very strong."
443
00:30:49,521 --> 00:30:51,377
It was just something about
when I got the camera,
444
00:30:51,570 --> 00:30:53,522
something else,
some other trick happened.
445
00:30:54,129 --> 00:30:57,522
You know, it's almost just
using me as a conduit.
446
00:31:44,496 --> 00:31:46,288
It was a mixture
of all these things,
447
00:31:46,290 --> 00:31:48,112
whether it's Oscar Wilde
or Clockwork Orange
448
00:31:48,114 --> 00:31:51,855
or the theater or Beethoven
or all these...
449
00:31:51,857 --> 00:31:53,713
...whatever.
450
00:31:55,890 --> 00:31:58,769
This was, like,
the advancing avant-garde,
451
00:31:59,473 --> 00:32:01,266
the new, vitalia,
452
00:32:01,553 --> 00:32:03,568
and a little bit
of drag thrown in.
453
00:32:03,570 --> 00:32:05,650
I mean, you could never beat
a bit of drag.
454
00:32:09,456 --> 00:32:11,503
It's so many different things,
455
00:32:11,505 --> 00:32:12,721
but when they merge
them together,
456
00:32:13,744 --> 00:32:15,982
it has a certain ring,
and it is an interesting,
457
00:32:15,984 --> 00:32:18,449
good-looking,
you know, clang.
458
00:32:24,496 --> 00:32:26,350
When I came across
these characters,
459
00:32:26,352 --> 00:32:29,359
my own identity
was only quite fragile.
460
00:32:29,361 --> 00:32:31,022
I guess I had this
little Mick Rock thing,
461
00:32:31,024 --> 00:32:32,368
and rock 'n' roll was...
462
00:32:32,370 --> 00:32:35,182
...you know, pumping.
And whatever.
463
00:32:35,184 --> 00:32:38,703
I looked the right way
for the times, you know.
464
00:32:38,705 --> 00:32:42,002
Spindly and long hair.
Spindly, long hair, tight jeans.
465
00:32:48,241 --> 00:32:50,351
I did wear lip gloss.
466
00:32:50,353 --> 00:32:53,136
There are pictures
of me with rouge on.
467
00:32:53,138 --> 00:32:54,193
Yeah, you know...
468
00:32:54,706 --> 00:32:56,302
Like a boy would
in those days.
469
00:32:56,304 --> 00:32:57,521
Just feminize himself.
470
00:33:00,785 --> 00:33:02,319
Biba's was the place
471
00:33:02,321 --> 00:33:04,498
if you were young
and pretty and hip,
472
00:33:04,816 --> 00:33:06,927
and I was like
the in-house photographer.
473
00:33:06,929 --> 00:33:10,769
♪ Step through the mirror
and see... ♪
474
00:33:10,961 --> 00:33:13,265
Look at David, like a big girl.
475
00:33:14,162 --> 00:33:16,018
Bryan Ferry
and Amanda Lear.
476
00:33:16,208 --> 00:33:18,385
He was rock 'n' roll,
but it was smooth.
477
00:33:18,705 --> 00:33:20,494
Roxy Music.
Of course, they were around.
478
00:33:20,496 --> 00:33:22,929
♪ Sure is a mighty long... ♪
479
00:33:23,249 --> 00:33:25,998
The rockers were
the most obvious manifestation
480
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:27,822
of the glam sensibility
and the people
481
00:33:27,824 --> 00:33:30,543
who most readily
understood its publicity value.
482
00:33:30,545 --> 00:33:33,870
Even more seasoned performers
such as Mick Jagger, Elton John,
483
00:33:33,872 --> 00:33:36,881
and Rod Stewart adapted
to the allure of glam.
484
00:33:38,513 --> 00:33:41,617
♪ For you to get along ♪
485
00:33:44,048 --> 00:33:46,065
♪ The bell tower rings... ♪
486
00:33:46,416 --> 00:33:48,238
Just a great time to be young
487
00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:51,663
and to be in what people saw
as the edge of the culture.
488
00:33:51,665 --> 00:33:54,575
♪ Your castles in Spain... ♪
489
00:33:54,577 --> 00:33:56,753
And I was like
a big dog, you know?
490
00:33:57,681 --> 00:33:59,854
Gnawing away right on that edge.
491
00:33:59,856 --> 00:34:02,257
♪ Longings more profound... ♪
492
00:34:14,832 --> 00:34:16,174
When I was born,
493
00:34:16,176 --> 00:34:18,417
Mick Rock wouldn't
have meant anything.
494
00:34:19,664 --> 00:34:22,703
I think the name
infiltrated into my psyche
495
00:34:22,705 --> 00:34:25,457
and, like,
tuned it in a certain way.
496
00:34:26,513 --> 00:34:27,632
'Cause it is a bit like
497
00:34:27,634 --> 00:34:29,614
if you wanted
a rock-'n'-roll photographer,
498
00:34:29,616 --> 00:34:31,920
what would you call it?
You'd call him Mick Rock
499
00:34:31,922 --> 00:34:34,322
and he'd probably be about 6'
and he'd probably be English.
500
00:34:34,545 --> 00:34:38,642
If you wanted a stereotype,
you know?
501
00:35:19,217 --> 00:35:20,622
There's prints back here,
there's prints
502
00:35:20,624 --> 00:35:23,697
and there's also books, boxes,
fuck knows what.
503
00:35:24,784 --> 00:35:26,383
I'm not sure if there's
any Bowie there or not.
504
00:35:26,385 --> 00:35:27,570
There might be.
505
00:35:28,465 --> 00:35:30,993
Oh, it's like it's never ending.
506
00:35:31,536 --> 00:35:33,585
I don't think this went
into production.
507
00:35:33,968 --> 00:35:35,857
Well, I don't know.
It's a bit kitschy.
508
00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:39,694
That's the only thing with
photographs, they do hang about.
509
00:35:39,696 --> 00:35:41,553
The bastard things, you know?
510
00:35:42,608 --> 00:35:46,225
I've got the main contenders,
including Rocky Horror.
511
00:35:47,408 --> 00:35:50,033
I am the king of
the glam-rock photographers.
512
00:35:52,048 --> 00:35:55,792
Oh, Marianne, look.
Looking very chaste.
513
00:35:56,017 --> 00:35:57,969
The butter wouldn't melt
in her mouth.
514
00:35:59,344 --> 00:36:00,497
Patti LaBelle.
515
00:36:01,936 --> 00:36:03,345
Mott The Hoople.
516
00:36:04,336 --> 00:36:05,489
John Cale.
517
00:36:07,697 --> 00:36:08,946
Thin Lizzy.
518
00:36:10,258 --> 00:36:14,002
He told me he killed somebody.
I don't fucking think so, Phil.
519
00:36:14,417 --> 00:36:18,542
I love these reverse Mohicans.
Very original, Peter.
520
00:36:18,544 --> 00:36:20,719
I'm not taking you home
to meet Mother, though.
521
00:36:20,721 --> 00:36:22,258
Not looking like that,
you can't.
522
00:36:26,608 --> 00:36:29,232
Look what I shot
in the summer of '72.
523
00:36:29,552 --> 00:36:31,409
It's Jerry Garcia.
524
00:36:36,720 --> 00:36:38,382
It was not that
I got bored easily,
525
00:36:38,384 --> 00:36:42,546
but I was just
infinitely curious, you know?
526
00:36:49,329 --> 00:36:51,186
Do you give a damn
who Trickster are?
527
00:36:51,504 --> 00:36:53,230
I mean, they had
their moment in time,
528
00:36:53,232 --> 00:36:54,703
but I can't remember
what it was.
529
00:36:54,705 --> 00:36:55,442
The Strawbs.
530
00:36:56,113 --> 00:36:56,974
Certain images, whether it be
531
00:36:56,976 --> 00:36:58,575
all those characters
or Rocky Horror
532
00:36:58,577 --> 00:37:02,032
or whatever,
have a big cache nowadays.
533
00:37:02,257 --> 00:37:03,537
Skin Alley.
534
00:37:04,049 --> 00:37:05,458
You know...
535
00:37:06,001 --> 00:37:06,864
Soiree.
536
00:37:07,536 --> 00:37:09,679
And I couldn't have
survived on the money
537
00:37:09,681 --> 00:37:11,633
that I was making
at that time.
538
00:37:12,368 --> 00:37:15,249
I mean, Transformer got £100.
539
00:37:15,761 --> 00:37:16,850
And how about this?
540
00:37:17,647 --> 00:37:22,093
I know it doesn't look very moi,
but it is. "Highway."
541
00:37:22,095 --> 00:37:23,409
Yeah, look at that.
542
00:37:25,041 --> 00:37:26,640
"What's that all about, Mick?"
543
00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:30,095
I don't think I had a fucking
clue where I was going,
544
00:37:30,097 --> 00:37:32,527
but I was gonna be
going there anyway, you know?
545
00:37:32,529 --> 00:37:34,799
I was heading
straight down the line.
546
00:37:34,801 --> 00:37:36,622
You go, "Well, where the fuck
are you going, Mick?"
547
00:37:36,624 --> 00:37:38,479
"I'm going in that direction."
548
00:37:38,481 --> 00:37:41,297
It's moving at a hell of a lick,
you know?
549
00:37:44,624 --> 00:37:49,325
But that Freddie picture, right?
I mean, I look at it.
550
00:37:49,327 --> 00:37:51,537
He looks like he's
on his way to bloody Heaven.
551
00:38:00,945 --> 00:38:03,503
But they approached me,
you know?
552
00:38:03,505 --> 00:38:05,614
Mick Rock, 'cause he's
taking pictures
553
00:38:05,616 --> 00:38:06,798
of famous puffs, you know?
554
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:09,521
I mean, they wanted to look
the fucking part.
555
00:38:12,944 --> 00:38:14,415
They got this first album out.
556
00:38:14,417 --> 00:38:16,082
Nothing much is
happening with it.
557
00:38:16,752 --> 00:38:19,089
They wanted the glam-rock image.
558
00:38:29,265 --> 00:38:31,407
I had a friend
who had a collection
559
00:38:31,409 --> 00:38:32,945
of old Hollywood stills.
560
00:38:34,225 --> 00:38:35,375
I think it was the cover shot,
561
00:38:35,377 --> 00:38:37,071
but it might've been
from the same movie,
562
00:38:37,073 --> 00:38:38,414
Shanghai Express.
563
00:38:38,416 --> 00:38:41,839
He had a little book
about Marlene Dietrich's films,
564
00:38:41,841 --> 00:38:45,872
and inside was the shot
that did inspire.
565
00:38:47,921 --> 00:38:50,160
My brain just went...
566
00:38:50,416 --> 00:38:52,337
And I showed it
to Freddie and it was...
567
00:38:53,521 --> 00:38:55,183
It was an instant sell.
568
00:38:55,185 --> 00:38:57,070
Freddie Mercury, you can,
569
00:38:57,072 --> 00:38:58,992
as it were,
be Marlene Dietrich.
570
00:39:00,367 --> 00:39:03,215
Of course,
she was a total professional
571
00:39:03,217 --> 00:39:05,006
and basically could
light herself.
572
00:39:05,008 --> 00:39:06,990
These guys,
it's only the second time
573
00:39:06,992 --> 00:39:08,975
they'd ever been in
a photographic studio,
574
00:39:08,977 --> 00:39:11,343
and they were in
and out of that mirror.
575
00:39:11,345 --> 00:39:13,682
There were up and... I was up
and down this bloody ladder.
576
00:39:14,224 --> 00:39:19,025
You can see from these Polaroids
the development of that shot.
577
00:39:23,536 --> 00:39:26,286
I don't know if I was super
nervous about it or whatever.
578
00:39:26,288 --> 00:39:28,048
I did not let go.
579
00:39:45,487 --> 00:39:48,206
Freddie was the one
I communicated with most,
580
00:39:48,208 --> 00:39:49,296
'cause he... I don't know.
581
00:39:49,298 --> 00:39:52,560
He was camp and he was,
like... He was the visionary.
582
00:39:54,161 --> 00:39:56,751
As Roger said about Freddie,
I mean, he would,
583
00:39:56,753 --> 00:39:58,638
even when he didn't
have a pot to piss in,
584
00:39:58,640 --> 00:39:59,887
he was crashing on your floor,
585
00:39:59,889 --> 00:40:03,728
he'd walk in acting like
he was doing you a favor.
586
00:40:04,657 --> 00:40:08,818
Oh, he was already playing
in coliseums in his mind.
587
00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:15,727
We showed it to the band
and they said,
588
00:40:15,729 --> 00:40:17,039
"Fine, we'll do it,
589
00:40:17,041 --> 00:40:18,927
but we're also gonna
shoot this white shot."
590
00:40:18,929 --> 00:40:21,678
See, look.
Album gatefold, would've been.
591
00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:23,983
And ended up being
the middle of it anyway.
592
00:40:23,985 --> 00:40:25,454
So these... They were like,
593
00:40:25,456 --> 00:40:27,216
"Mm, I think
maybe the white one."
594
00:40:27,696 --> 00:40:29,170
Of course it would've
looked like...
595
00:40:30,193 --> 00:40:32,176
"Santa Claus is Coming to Town".
596
00:41:01,169 --> 00:41:02,289
Love the hair.
597
00:41:03,152 --> 00:41:04,657
Fucking fantastic.
598
00:41:05,616 --> 00:41:07,760
You can be a swan.
599
00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:12,301
It's like...
It's like picking cherries.
600
00:41:15,344 --> 00:41:17,615
The thing is, photography's
just not complicated.
601
00:41:17,617 --> 00:41:20,241
I mean, you can make it
complicated if you want,
602
00:41:20,528 --> 00:41:24,206
but where I'm coming from,
it certainly doesn't have to be.
603
00:41:24,208 --> 00:41:28,816
I do remember early on reading
something by Horst.
604
00:41:30,577 --> 00:41:33,713
He said he didn't understand
modern photographers
605
00:41:34,064 --> 00:41:36,462
and how complicated
they made the lighting,
606
00:41:36,464 --> 00:41:39,311
'cause he basically
had one light
607
00:41:39,313 --> 00:41:41,297
and he moved it around
till he saw what he liked.
608
00:41:41,617 --> 00:41:45,102
And I thought, "Uh... Yes,
that's about me," you know.
609
00:41:45,104 --> 00:41:46,926
And why it's doing it,
I don't give a shit.
610
00:41:46,928 --> 00:41:50,128
I want the pictures.
I don't care about the why's.
611
00:41:54,097 --> 00:41:57,486
I get to a session, make sure
everything's in place,
612
00:41:57,488 --> 00:41:59,341
then I fuck off
for half an hour.
613
00:42:00,624 --> 00:42:02,863
There's a lot
of power breathing,
614
00:42:02,865 --> 00:42:06,254
which is a Kundalini Yoga thing.
Playing around with mantras.
615
00:42:06,256 --> 00:42:08,399
And the brain machine...
616
00:42:08,401 --> 00:42:11,824
...that brings me
right down focused, opens me up.
617
00:42:12,783 --> 00:42:15,538
It's like a meditation
so your brain gets cleared out
618
00:42:15,793 --> 00:42:18,418
so that the impressions
can be fresh.
619
00:42:21,712 --> 00:42:24,625
It's important for me,
this body connection,
620
00:42:25,201 --> 00:42:27,440
that I can almost take
photographs with my stomach.
621
00:42:27,696 --> 00:42:29,230
Stomach and the eyeball
were like...
622
00:42:29,232 --> 00:42:30,510
...locked in.
623
00:42:30,512 --> 00:42:32,176
They bypass the rest of me.
624
00:42:37,361 --> 00:42:39,214
I don't think
I've ever done a session
625
00:42:39,216 --> 00:42:42,097
without standing on my head
beforehand for a bunch of time.
626
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:45,585
I've been doing that since,
um...
627
00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:48,722
...1970.
628
00:42:53,521 --> 00:42:55,025
Ah.
629
00:42:56,561 --> 00:42:59,408
Let's get the long goodbye.
630
00:42:59,823 --> 00:43:01,229
Yeah. Ah.
631
00:43:01,231 --> 00:43:03,600
Ah, sa, sa. Ah, sa, sa.
632
00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:05,967
I mean, the name alone
was enough to get me stimulated.
633
00:43:05,969 --> 00:43:07,921
Stanislavski?
Who's this motherfucker?
634
00:43:08,144 --> 00:43:10,896
And then you find out
he's the grandfather of the,
635
00:43:11,344 --> 00:43:12,817
you know,
the method school of acting.
636
00:43:15,184 --> 00:43:18,318
But one thing he talked
about was going into a raw space
637
00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:20,302
with a bunch of people
and building
638
00:43:20,304 --> 00:43:24,081
the circle of concentration
till at a certain point,
639
00:43:24,783 --> 00:43:26,254
you know,
it kind of takes off.
640
00:43:26,256 --> 00:43:28,817
It takes on its own energy.
641
00:43:29,905 --> 00:43:31,409
You're really more
of a driver,
642
00:43:32,721 --> 00:43:35,666
or you're steering rather
than directing in that way.
643
00:43:36,976 --> 00:43:39,822
You can see the way
people's faces change
644
00:43:39,824 --> 00:43:41,614
as the muscles relax
645
00:43:41,616 --> 00:43:44,273
or they drop down
into that, you know...
646
00:43:44,943 --> 00:43:48,238
And in that moment,
I'm like a...
647
00:43:48,240 --> 00:43:49,902
I'm like a thief in the night.
648
00:43:49,904 --> 00:43:52,176
Bling, bling, bling, bling,
bling, bling, bling, bling.
649
00:43:59,472 --> 00:44:01,422
What is it?
What did Debbie say once?
650
00:44:01,424 --> 00:44:05,102
I have a quote from her.
And she said that,
651
00:44:05,104 --> 00:44:09,809
"If Mick Rock were a drag queen,
his name is Miss Direction."
652
00:44:10,415 --> 00:44:12,462
"Oh, look over there,"
he says while he sticks
653
00:44:12,464 --> 00:44:15,152
a knife in your back over here
or takes your photograph.
654
00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:28,654
If you're in front of my camera,
you could be the world's
655
00:44:28,656 --> 00:44:31,278
most fucking boring
person off-camera.
656
00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:33,006
The minute you're
in front of my camera,
657
00:44:33,008 --> 00:44:34,738
you are totally fascinating.
658
00:44:35,248 --> 00:44:38,257
You know, so that's really
where I'm coming from.
659
00:44:45,968 --> 00:44:49,329
My instinct is, you know,
once I got the bite on it...
660
00:44:53,489 --> 00:44:54,577
...I'm not letting go.
661
00:45:08,912 --> 00:45:14,225
♪ Remember me, remember me ♪
662
00:45:29,969 --> 00:45:36,593
♪ Remember me, remember me ♪
663
00:45:51,215 --> 00:45:53,905
Ah. It did get out
of control, it's true.
664
00:45:54,544 --> 00:45:56,014
There was a certain amount of,
665
00:45:56,016 --> 00:45:58,768
what should we say,
venal celebration going on.
666
00:46:00,240 --> 00:46:03,182
I never felt like a voyeur.
Never felt...
667
00:46:03,184 --> 00:46:04,783
I was always on
the inside looking out.
668
00:46:06,192 --> 00:46:08,429
♪ Here comes success ♪
669
00:46:08,431 --> 00:46:10,445
♪ Here comes success... ♪
670
00:46:10,447 --> 00:46:12,142
I think I also
enjoyed the fact
671
00:46:12,144 --> 00:46:14,382
that I'd had such
a cerebral education,
672
00:46:14,384 --> 00:46:16,880
a classic British education.
673
00:46:17,135 --> 00:46:21,741
And the camera brought me
into this intuitive world.
674
00:46:21,743 --> 00:46:23,022
♪ Here comes my car ♪
675
00:46:23,024 --> 00:46:25,710
♪ Here comes my Chinese rug ♪
676
00:46:25,712 --> 00:46:28,432
Cocaine was starting to
creep into the culture,
677
00:46:28,688 --> 00:46:30,640
but it wasn't what it became,
678
00:46:31,024 --> 00:46:35,025
a raging snowstorm
that swept out to the provinces.
679
00:46:37,872 --> 00:46:39,664
Certain reprobates.
680
00:46:40,719 --> 00:46:42,448
I'm not a fucking paparazzi,
681
00:46:42,672 --> 00:46:46,544
but I just happened to be
in this place at this moment.
682
00:46:46,927 --> 00:46:50,288
It's the thing of Mick Jagger
and Rod Stewart, Ronnie Wood.
683
00:46:50,768 --> 00:46:53,101
It was raucous.
What more do you want in life?
684
00:46:53,103 --> 00:46:55,438
And the cops kept coming and no
one was answering the door.
685
00:46:55,440 --> 00:46:56,526
"It's the cops, it's the cops."
686
00:46:56,528 --> 00:46:57,966
But eventually you had
to let them in.
687
00:46:57,968 --> 00:46:58,800
I mean, it's the cops.
688
00:47:00,015 --> 00:47:00,558
And they came up to the attic
and they're like,
689
00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:01,486
"Whoopsie daisy.
690
00:47:01,488 --> 00:47:04,302
The lads were having
a bit of a jamboree."
691
00:47:04,304 --> 00:47:06,479
♪ In the last ditch ♪
692
00:47:06,481 --> 00:47:08,142
♪ In the last ditch... ♪
693
00:47:08,144 --> 00:47:09,518
I've got a lot
of great party pictures,
694
00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:13,326
I think, but there's something
about the David, Lou, Iggy,
695
00:47:13,328 --> 00:47:16,529
and the David, Lou,
Mick moments.
696
00:47:17,616 --> 00:47:19,598
They both denied
they actually kissed,
697
00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:23,533
but I know that's a fib
'cause I saw them, and why not?
698
00:47:23,535 --> 00:47:25,167
Boys were being revolutionaries
699
00:47:25,169 --> 00:47:27,661
by kissing each other
on the lips in public.
700
00:47:27,663 --> 00:47:28,720
Revolutionary gesture.
701
00:47:29,712 --> 00:47:31,949
I know the little buggers
do it all day long nowadays,
702
00:47:31,951 --> 00:47:35,470
but back then,
it was something, you know?
703
00:47:35,472 --> 00:47:37,934
"Ooh, I kissed a fucking boy
on the lips this afternoon."
704
00:47:37,936 --> 00:47:39,182
You go...
705
00:47:39,184 --> 00:47:40,977
..."Really,
I've done that before."
706
00:47:57,967 --> 00:47:59,472
Well, I was roaring.
707
00:47:59,729 --> 00:48:00,910
I was on a blue tear,
708
00:48:00,912 --> 00:48:03,757
and I didn't stop to think
about the implications
709
00:48:03,759 --> 00:48:07,280
of where I was at or even
necessarily what I was doing.
710
00:48:07,983 --> 00:48:12,815
I simply had to live out
this, I suppose, fantasy life
711
00:48:12,817 --> 00:48:15,728
of being some kind of mad
symbolist French poet.
712
00:48:18,128 --> 00:48:22,384
David was inviting me to go
to Berlin to take pictures,
713
00:48:22,673 --> 00:48:25,329
and Lou was inviting me
to come to New York.
714
00:48:28,144 --> 00:48:30,929
Even though David and Berlin
were interesting,
715
00:48:31,599 --> 00:48:35,153
New York and Lou Reed were
irresistible, unfortunately.
716
00:48:56,112 --> 00:48:57,902
I like the feel of the city,
717
00:48:57,904 --> 00:49:00,270
and it was a bit ugly
in places and grungy,
718
00:49:00,272 --> 00:49:03,694
and it was nowhere near as
pretty as London or Paris.
719
00:49:03,696 --> 00:49:06,129
But it didn't matter.
None of it.
720
00:49:08,527 --> 00:49:09,807
You could feel the edge
721
00:49:09,809 --> 00:49:11,342
the minute you walked
into New York.
722
00:49:11,344 --> 00:49:13,262
You know,
you had to be on your toes,
723
00:49:13,264 --> 00:49:14,544
and it was a good feeling.
724
00:49:15,599 --> 00:49:18,606
It was torrid,
and torrid, you know,
725
00:49:18,608 --> 00:49:20,237
I needed to get it
out of my system.
726
00:49:20,239 --> 00:49:21,262
What can I say?
727
00:49:21,264 --> 00:49:23,247
♪ Your current troubles ♪
728
00:49:23,249 --> 00:49:25,357
♪ And you know,
they'll get much worse... ♪
729
00:49:25,359 --> 00:49:27,149
Had just landed in New York.
730
00:49:27,151 --> 00:49:28,622
I hadn't slept for a week
731
00:49:28,624 --> 00:49:31,793
and started shooting him
that afternoon.
732
00:49:32,528 --> 00:49:34,385
He wanted me to work with him
733
00:49:34,672 --> 00:49:36,848
on these images
for his new stage show.
734
00:50:01,553 --> 00:50:04,721
He had just done all this
wild and crazy feedback imagery.
735
00:50:06,512 --> 00:50:09,325
The problem was it
started out with 60,
736
00:50:09,327 --> 00:50:11,245
but by the time we were
about 12 drinks in,
737
00:50:11,247 --> 00:50:12,144
it was down to 30.
738
00:50:12,783 --> 00:50:14,414
Then we'd have to get
to a location,
739
00:50:14,416 --> 00:50:17,489
find some more TV sets.
It was a bit of a...
740
00:50:17,839 --> 00:50:20,461
But it was, you know,
it was an original thing.
741
00:50:20,463 --> 00:50:21,936
I mean, Lou Reed, man.
742
00:50:22,959 --> 00:50:24,881
Just absolutely unique.
743
00:50:31,344 --> 00:50:35,245
None of these sessions
were designed for any purpose
744
00:50:35,247 --> 00:50:37,741
other than for us
to have some fun,
745
00:50:37,743 --> 00:50:39,598
and then we'll see what we do
with them afterwards,
746
00:50:39,600 --> 00:50:42,541
and sometimes the record labels
747
00:50:42,543 --> 00:50:44,591
would license
for a couple of pennies.
748
00:50:45,104 --> 00:50:48,591
Sally Can't Dance was based
on one of the photographs
749
00:50:48,593 --> 00:50:50,225
I took of him at Blakes Hotel,
750
00:50:50,671 --> 00:50:52,271
and he had gone blond on me.
751
00:50:53,775 --> 00:50:55,918
♪ Man,
she's gonna turn you in... ♪
752
00:50:55,920 --> 00:50:56,560
Of course, this session,
753
00:50:57,584 --> 00:50:59,406
it looks like a carnival,
a barker.
754
00:50:59,408 --> 00:51:00,721
He's got that hat.
755
00:51:01,039 --> 00:51:03,693
I got a friend of mine
to retouch it,
756
00:51:03,695 --> 00:51:05,168
make it a little bit
candy-colored.
757
00:51:06,224 --> 00:51:08,781
I did these great pictures
of him and Nico,
758
00:51:08,783 --> 00:51:11,342
and I've got a few frames
later on
759
00:51:11,344 --> 00:51:13,294
that I took of him
and John together.
760
00:51:13,296 --> 00:51:15,758
But never got them
all in the room, which again,
761
00:51:15,760 --> 00:51:19,408
for those of us that care,
what a special moment.
762
00:51:21,103 --> 00:51:22,253
She said to me,
763
00:51:22,255 --> 00:51:24,110
"He was my little brother
in a former life,"
764
00:51:24,112 --> 00:51:25,745
'cause in fact,
she was older than Lou.
765
00:51:26,063 --> 00:51:28,080
Lou was almost like
a little boy to her.
766
00:51:31,183 --> 00:51:32,845
I think he liked the fact
767
00:51:32,847 --> 00:51:35,888
that he had his own
pet historian, if you like.
768
00:51:37,455 --> 00:51:40,398
The best pictures of me
taken in that period
769
00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:42,061
were also taken by Lou.
770
00:51:42,063 --> 00:51:44,304
♪ It happened
on New Year's Eve... ♪
771
00:51:45,968 --> 00:51:47,982
Oh, well,
there's a negative of one.
772
00:51:47,984 --> 00:51:50,640
That's the one
I've used quite a bit.
773
00:51:51,120 --> 00:51:53,712
Blakes Hotel.
Hadn't slept.
774
00:51:54,256 --> 00:51:56,014
It was 6:00 a.m.
in the morning,
775
00:51:56,016 --> 00:51:58,093
but the light's very nice
at that time of day,
776
00:51:58,095 --> 00:51:59,889
so it was quite flattering.
777
00:52:02,511 --> 00:52:05,360
♪ I said if I ever
see Sharon again... ♪
778
00:52:08,944 --> 00:52:10,541
But these ones,
there's something about,
779
00:52:10,543 --> 00:52:13,744
as a session, this is...
780
00:52:14,159 --> 00:52:16,109
He did, he looked like
a bloody insect.
781
00:52:16,111 --> 00:52:20,142
It was like
the perfect rendition
782
00:52:20,144 --> 00:52:22,545
of people's idea of Lou Reed.
783
00:52:24,687 --> 00:52:27,181
The shiny, the black,
the shades.
784
00:52:27,183 --> 00:52:29,968
I mean, he looks fantastic.
It's a pure image.
785
00:52:31,983 --> 00:52:32,973
You know, he was Baudelaire,
786
00:52:32,975 --> 00:52:35,951
a great artist,
but a degenerate.
787
00:52:38,959 --> 00:52:40,813
He fulfilled people's fantasies.
788
00:52:40,815 --> 00:52:42,734
He used to get
very irritated about it,
789
00:52:42,736 --> 00:52:45,357
but I'd say to him,
"But, Lou, you know,
790
00:52:45,359 --> 00:52:47,216
you've kind of propagated this."
791
00:53:50,384 --> 00:53:53,968
♪ I don't know ♪
792
00:53:57,039 --> 00:53:59,248
♪ Just where I'm going ♪
793
00:54:07,343 --> 00:54:08,944
♪ But I'm ♪
794
00:54:11,376 --> 00:54:15,121
♪ Gonna try
for the kingdom ♪
795
00:54:15,695 --> 00:54:17,167
♪ If I can ♪
796
00:54:17,774 --> 00:54:20,848
♪ 'Cause it makes me feel
like I'm a man ♪
797
00:54:21,360 --> 00:54:24,208
♪ When I put a spike
into my vein ♪
798
00:54:24,719 --> 00:54:27,440
♪ And I tell you things
aren't quite the same ♪
799
00:54:27,726 --> 00:54:30,607
♪ When I'm rushing on my run ♪
800
00:54:31,024 --> 00:54:33,809
♪ And I feel just
like Jesus' son ♪
801
00:54:34,031 --> 00:54:37,101
♪ And I guess
that I just don't know ♪
802
00:54:37,103 --> 00:54:40,048
♪ And I guess
that I just don't know ♪
803
00:54:48,688 --> 00:54:50,097
♪ I... ♪
804
00:54:51,375 --> 00:54:54,929
Come about 4:00 a.m.
when the blood sugar drops.
805
00:54:55,151 --> 00:54:56,112
That's when everything,
806
00:54:57,264 --> 00:54:58,737
all the really crazy shit
started to happen.
807
00:54:59,792 --> 00:55:01,678
And I was kind of addicted
to 4:00 a.m.,
808
00:55:01,680 --> 00:55:03,855
and they call that
the hour of the wolf.
809
00:55:04,048 --> 00:55:05,709
And I love that time
810
00:55:05,711 --> 00:55:08,847
because you can get up
to all kinds of antics then.
811
00:55:09,584 --> 00:55:12,752
♪ When I'm
closing in on death... ♪
812
00:55:14,735 --> 00:55:16,653
I was in the exploration biz.
813
00:55:16,655 --> 00:55:18,320
I would check everything out.
814
00:55:19,023 --> 00:55:20,941
I mean, anybody
that was up to anything
815
00:55:20,943 --> 00:55:24,975
a little bit saucy in New York,
I was invited.
816
00:55:26,864 --> 00:55:29,489
And also, the girls, man.
Jesus.
817
00:55:29,711 --> 00:55:31,629
You know, if you had
a vial of cocaine,
818
00:55:31,631 --> 00:55:34,510
you know, it's like whatever.
819
00:55:40,560 --> 00:55:42,095
I didn't really want
to be sensible.
820
00:55:42,448 --> 00:55:44,941
I wanted to taste all the buzz
821
00:55:44,943 --> 00:55:46,736
of the whole thing,
up to a point.
822
00:55:47,535 --> 00:55:50,125
I remember going to a couple
of S&M clubs and going,
823
00:55:50,127 --> 00:55:52,205
"These motherfuckers
are too serious for me."
824
00:55:52,207 --> 00:55:54,031
You know, "I need to get
the fuck out of here."
825
00:56:40,623 --> 00:56:43,630
♪ Gabba gabba we accept you,
we accept you one of us! ♪
826
00:56:43,632 --> 00:56:45,936
♪ Gabba gabba we accept you,
we accept you one of us... ♪
827
00:56:54,447 --> 00:56:57,005
I had, like,
an instinct fully developed
828
00:56:57,007 --> 00:56:58,349
by then for anything
829
00:56:58,351 --> 00:57:02,158
that smelled like a big rodent,
and this one did.
830
00:57:02,160 --> 00:57:05,071
But, you know,
a healthy, edgy rodent,
831
00:57:05,744 --> 00:57:07,088
and they called it punk.
832
00:57:09,006 --> 00:57:13,328
I went down to CBGB's in 1974.
There were 20 people there.
833
00:57:15,727 --> 00:57:17,261
These were taken at CBGB's,
834
00:57:17,263 --> 00:57:19,056
but it's got
all four original ones.
835
00:57:19,280 --> 00:57:20,557
'Cause Tommy was only
in the band
836
00:57:20,559 --> 00:57:22,157
for the first couple of albums.
837
00:57:22,159 --> 00:57:23,823
By the time I shot
the album cover,
838
00:57:24,207 --> 00:57:25,743
Marky was the drummer.
839
00:57:26,639 --> 00:57:28,750
I spent a lot of time
around that glam scene,
840
00:57:28,752 --> 00:57:30,029
and this is the fucking Ramones.
841
00:57:30,031 --> 00:57:33,420
I mean, you know,
not the prettiest bunch alive.
842
00:57:33,422 --> 00:57:37,293
In fact, they were,
at that moment in time,
843
00:57:37,295 --> 00:57:39,760
you could probably have called
them the ugliest band around.
844
00:57:41,647 --> 00:57:43,598
I remember the art director
told me
845
00:57:43,600 --> 00:57:45,582
they'd already done
three sessions
846
00:57:45,584 --> 00:57:48,205
and they hated the pictures.
They didn't like photographers,
847
00:57:48,207 --> 00:57:50,829
and if they didn't like
what was going on, they'd leave,
848
00:57:50,831 --> 00:57:52,077
and he didn't
really have any money.
849
00:57:52,079 --> 00:57:54,254
Did I want to do it?
And I thought, "Yeah."
850
00:57:54,256 --> 00:57:55,791
♪ Everyone's accusing... ♪
851
00:57:59,886 --> 00:58:01,455
But meanwhile,
over the water,
852
00:58:02,288 --> 00:58:04,209
I tasted it
a bit here and there.
853
00:58:05,103 --> 00:58:09,006
Remember Johnny Rotten walking
around calling everybody
854
00:58:09,008 --> 00:58:12,336
a bunch of fucking hippies.
"Fuck off, you fucking wankers."
855
00:58:13,071 --> 00:58:17,262
He was busy imprinting himself
on the underground consciousness
856
00:58:17,264 --> 00:58:20,016
by touting
his obnoxious vibes.
857
00:58:20,655 --> 00:58:23,854
♪ There's no point in
asking, you'll get no reply... ♪
858
00:58:23,856 --> 00:58:26,669
I remember Malcolm
dangling some kinky underwear
859
00:58:26,671 --> 00:58:27,505
in front of me, saying,
860
00:58:28,913 --> 00:58:30,064
"You want some of this, Mick?
Come and photograph my band."
861
00:58:30,991 --> 00:58:32,111
♪ You'll always find us... ♪
862
00:58:33,936 --> 00:58:35,245
Wasn't really about the music.
863
00:58:35,247 --> 00:58:37,360
It was more
punk as subversion,
864
00:58:37,742 --> 00:58:40,876
which it definitely was an
attitude promulgated in London.
865
00:58:40,878 --> 00:58:43,885
♪ Oh, so pretty,
we're vacant ♪
866
00:58:43,887 --> 00:58:45,676
Look at his eyeballs.
He's very, like,
867
00:58:45,678 --> 00:58:47,727
"What the fuck are you doing
here, Mick Rock?" You know?
868
00:58:50,735 --> 00:58:53,644
I mean, I would wear a bit
of makeup in the glam days,
869
00:58:53,646 --> 00:58:56,172
but I wasn't gonna get my
fucking haircut chopped short
870
00:58:56,174 --> 00:59:00,333
and have a Mohawk, and no.
No, I didn't identify.
871
00:59:00,335 --> 00:59:02,321
With the glammy stuff,
I identified.
872
00:59:02,894 --> 00:59:03,729
But, I mean, just look.
873
00:59:04,816 --> 00:59:05,582
A lot of those fucking punks
were really fucking ugly.
874
00:59:05,584 --> 00:59:07,952
I'm sorry.
They were interesting,
875
00:59:08,462 --> 00:59:10,960
but, you know,
I was into prettier stuff.
876
00:59:11,983 --> 00:59:14,861
That was taken
about a decade ago.
877
00:59:14,863 --> 00:59:18,319
Look, that was a knockoff
of one of my earlier images.
878
00:59:19,056 --> 00:59:20,240
And there's Debbie.
879
00:59:21,903 --> 00:59:23,950
People often ask me about,
and I say,
880
00:59:23,952 --> 00:59:26,896
"Well, it doesn't matter
which way you twist the banana.
881
00:59:27,088 --> 00:59:30,543
I don't care who it is."
I mean, look at Debbie Harry.
882
00:59:31,055 --> 00:59:32,973
She even photographed
in certain ways
883
00:59:32,975 --> 00:59:34,510
better than Marilyn, I think.
884
00:59:34,512 --> 00:59:36,878
I mean... And it's really,
some of the pictures,
885
00:59:36,880 --> 00:59:39,312
and my pictures, you go...
You know?
886
00:59:40,271 --> 00:59:43,021
Just her glowing, you know,
887
00:59:43,023 --> 00:59:45,104
and looking like the
Marilyn Monroe of rock 'n' roll.
888
00:59:47,311 --> 00:59:50,638
Yeah, 'cause the thing with
Debbie is she was like David.
889
00:59:50,640 --> 00:59:52,944
You couldn't really take
a bad picture of her.
890
00:59:58,638 --> 01:00:00,720
This became the cover
of Penthouse.
891
01:00:00,944 --> 01:00:03,600
Of course, the irony is she's
not only wearing a jacket,
892
01:00:03,855 --> 01:00:05,391
but also a scarf.
893
01:00:05,743 --> 01:00:07,661
Actually sold more
than any other issue
894
01:00:07,663 --> 01:00:09,776
of the magazine that year.
895
01:00:12,270 --> 01:00:14,317
She had fun with the group, too.
You can see in a lot
896
01:00:14,319 --> 01:00:15,952
of the pictures
she's mucking about.
897
01:00:16,303 --> 01:00:19,213
But obviously it's less
the idea of glamour
898
01:00:19,215 --> 01:00:22,319
and more the idea
of camaraderie.
899
01:00:22,927 --> 01:00:26,350
If it's just Debbie,
I can concentrate
900
01:00:26,352 --> 01:00:29,486
on that rock-'n'-roll
Marilyn or Lolita,
901
01:00:29,488 --> 01:00:30,638
as the case here.
902
01:00:30,640 --> 01:00:32,976
♪ I see you skip ♪
903
01:00:33,264 --> 01:00:34,542
♪ That cautious lip... ♪
904
01:00:34,544 --> 01:00:36,972
If you do this type
of identifying
905
01:00:36,974 --> 01:00:38,701
when you're looking at somebody,
906
01:00:38,703 --> 01:00:41,168
some kind of plasma sticks
onto the photographs.
907
01:00:42,702 --> 01:00:46,384
Talking Heads, they were
"Children of the Damned."
908
01:00:46,830 --> 01:00:48,686
♪ A chance you'll fit... ♪
909
01:00:48,688 --> 01:00:50,861
The Dead Boys
I wanted to give the vibe
910
01:00:50,863 --> 01:00:52,781
of the second
Rolling Stones album.
911
01:00:52,783 --> 01:00:54,896
♪ It's just these things... ♪
912
01:00:55,470 --> 01:00:57,359
I love the stuff
with Joan Jett.
913
01:00:58,319 --> 01:01:00,079
She was Elvis Presley to me.
914
01:01:00,974 --> 01:01:03,853
Often with the visual things,
I mean, if you explain it,
915
01:01:03,855 --> 01:01:05,198
it doesn't sound
like very much,
916
01:01:05,200 --> 01:01:06,672
but, I mean, you look at it...
917
01:01:07,503 --> 01:01:09,424
it somehow works, you know?
918
01:01:37,423 --> 01:01:39,631
Why do certain things
stick in the mind?
919
01:01:40,783 --> 01:01:43,407
I couldn't fucking tell you
the answer to that.
920
01:01:45,198 --> 01:01:46,767
It's a Youngian thing.
921
01:01:47,184 --> 01:01:50,832
It's a truth that reverberates,
that kind of defies itself.
922
01:01:51,150 --> 01:01:54,029
It's a truth that you can
describe up to a point,
923
01:01:54,031 --> 01:01:57,488
but then you got to let it go
and let it be unto itself.
924
01:01:57,839 --> 01:02:00,334
And that's a bigger truth,
925
01:02:00,336 --> 01:02:01,837
and that's what
I discovered with pictures.
926
01:02:01,839 --> 01:02:05,421
Beyond my words
lay these more...
927
01:02:05,423 --> 01:02:07,212
...profound...
928
01:02:07,214 --> 01:02:10,348
Like, profound,
more substantial proof.
929
01:02:10,350 --> 01:02:12,909
Let's put it like that.
Chunkier truths,
930
01:02:12,911 --> 01:02:15,151
and whatever they mean,
what you want them to mean.
931
01:02:15,854 --> 01:02:19,088
What that's the result of,
I don't know.
932
01:02:19,632 --> 01:02:21,807
I don't know.
933
01:02:38,640 --> 01:02:40,749
Quite often after a shoot,
it was not like,
934
01:02:40,751 --> 01:02:41,806
"Oh, the session's over.
935
01:02:41,808 --> 01:02:43,820
Calm the fuck down
and go home, Mick."
936
01:02:43,822 --> 01:02:44,912
No, I'm ready for more.
937
01:02:48,688 --> 01:02:52,781
And part of the problem
was I was so indulged.
938
01:02:52,783 --> 01:02:56,239
♪ I am a glossy photograph... ♪
939
01:02:57,263 --> 01:02:59,437
I was a young
British photographer
940
01:02:59,439 --> 01:03:01,871
and I had this association.
941
01:03:02,128 --> 01:03:04,108
You know, "Mick Rock always
shot David Bowie.
942
01:03:04,110 --> 01:03:06,670
They're really good..." You
know, if I'd shot nobody else,
943
01:03:06,672 --> 01:03:08,847
that would've been enough for me
to get invited
944
01:03:09,104 --> 01:03:11,852
to every, like,
orgy or God knows what
945
01:03:11,854 --> 01:03:13,519
that was going on in New York.
946
01:03:13,935 --> 01:03:16,592
Oh, this would be...
This could be the Ritz.
947
01:03:16,814 --> 01:03:19,277
There's Wayne Kramer
and Stiv Bators,
948
01:03:19,279 --> 01:03:21,520
lot from The Dead Boys.
And Cherry Vanilla.
949
01:03:21,967 --> 01:03:24,076
Say, "When did you have
the time for all this, Mick?"
950
01:03:24,078 --> 01:03:25,743
Well, I never slept.
951
01:03:26,255 --> 01:03:28,079
If you don't sleep,
you get about a bit.
952
01:03:28,655 --> 01:03:30,799
What was that Ramones song?
953
01:03:31,087 --> 01:03:34,061
I would play it, like, 6:00 a.m.
in the morning in my studio
954
01:03:34,063 --> 01:03:36,942
on 32nd Street and Madison.
955
01:03:36,944 --> 01:03:39,310
It would be,
"I wanna be sedated."
956
01:03:39,312 --> 01:03:42,384
Oh...
Did I love "I Wanna Be Sedated."
957
01:03:42,703 --> 01:03:45,453
It was... Looking back,
it was probably a cri de coeur,
958
01:03:45,455 --> 01:03:47,376
'cause I needed
a lot of sedation.
959
01:03:47,983 --> 01:03:49,776
It's a lot of my problem.
960
01:03:50,127 --> 01:03:52,079
Sedate the bastard, you know?
961
01:04:03,439 --> 01:04:08,816
I was so in love with cocaine.
I loved it. Of course I did.
962
01:04:11,983 --> 01:04:15,248
At one point, I knew
10 dealers in New York.
963
01:04:16,078 --> 01:04:19,756
They were the only collectors
of my pictures,
964
01:04:19,758 --> 01:04:22,960
'cause, you know,
the exchange policy.
965
01:04:24,750 --> 01:04:27,247
I mean, I could get an eight
for a fucking print, man.
966
01:04:34,319 --> 01:04:36,272
High Times. Uh-oh.
967
01:04:37,167 --> 01:04:38,960
That's how I got good
at shooting still-lives.
968
01:04:40,911 --> 01:04:42,957
You could take a long time
969
01:04:42,959 --> 01:04:45,132
and it could work
out quite expensive
970
01:04:45,134 --> 01:04:47,664
because the material goods
consumed.
971
01:04:48,366 --> 01:04:50,159
You know, it would
get out of control.
972
01:04:51,854 --> 01:04:54,575
That's in a meat warehouse.
Look, you can see the meat.
973
01:04:55,055 --> 01:04:58,797
So, it was an interesting shoot,
but heavily chemicalized.
974
01:04:58,799 --> 01:04:59,888
I remember that.
975
01:05:01,040 --> 01:05:03,853
Even when I did
all that cocaine and speed,
976
01:05:03,855 --> 01:05:05,773
I was also doing yoga.
977
01:05:05,775 --> 01:05:08,368
Be up for three days,
stand on your head for an hour.
978
01:05:08,591 --> 01:05:09,741
I mean, wow.
979
01:05:09,743 --> 01:05:12,464
Talk about the big
fucking bang in the brain.
980
01:05:15,695 --> 01:05:18,576
I do remember once not sleeping
for seven days.
981
01:05:19,694 --> 01:05:21,935
Anyone that cared knew
I was, you know,
982
01:05:22,192 --> 01:05:24,144
existing a bit
beyond the pale...
983
01:05:25,326 --> 01:05:27,789
in terms of being
reliable in any sense,
984
01:05:27,791 --> 01:05:29,837
in terms of, you know,
being able...
985
01:05:29,839 --> 01:05:30,956
Just being professional.
986
01:05:30,958 --> 01:05:34,671
Just wasn't...
Wasn't being professional.
987
01:05:36,558 --> 01:05:38,413
I remember doing
that Carly Simon shoot,
988
01:05:38,415 --> 01:05:40,048
and she was
the first person to say it.
989
01:05:40,334 --> 01:05:42,061
She said, "Yeah,
Mick takes great pictures,
990
01:05:42,063 --> 01:05:44,400
but you can't find him
after the session for days."
991
01:05:59,599 --> 01:06:02,605
♪ Far away ♪
992
01:06:02,607 --> 01:06:06,060
♪ In a land caught
between time and space ♪
993
01:06:09,840 --> 01:06:12,109
I was in a lot of denial,
though.
994
01:06:12,111 --> 01:06:14,382
I didn't get all the way
to the bottomless pit.
995
01:06:14,384 --> 01:06:18,668
But it would get...
I would get flashes of things
996
01:06:18,670 --> 01:06:20,751
possibly getting bleaker.
997
01:06:22,064 --> 01:06:25,676
Those were, like, very
fragmented times I was living.
998
01:06:25,678 --> 01:06:28,078
And I did a lot
of different things.
999
01:06:28,080 --> 01:06:31,276
♪ No sorrow, no shame ♪
1000
01:06:31,278 --> 01:06:35,119
It was hyperactive
in my rampant insecurity.
1001
01:06:38,991 --> 01:06:40,910
And then there's Motley Crue.
1002
01:06:40,912 --> 01:06:42,669
It was glam metal.
1003
01:06:42,671 --> 01:06:44,621
I mean, it wasn't that
I was working that much,
1004
01:06:44,623 --> 01:06:47,215
so they came and found me.
1005
01:06:48,622 --> 01:06:50,605
Couldn't tell them,
"Oh, Mick Rock has a problem
1006
01:06:50,607 --> 01:06:52,140
and it will be an issue."
1007
01:06:52,142 --> 01:06:54,446
Just doing what they're doing.
1008
01:06:59,982 --> 01:07:03,693
The thing is it didn't matter
what sort of state I was in,
1009
01:07:03,695 --> 01:07:06,544
where I was...
It mattered nothing at all.
1010
01:07:07,535 --> 01:07:09,007
The pictures would always work.
1011
01:07:09,678 --> 01:07:11,405
So, that kind
of sat over here.
1012
01:07:11,407 --> 01:07:13,901
Over here, meanwhile,
is the real Mick Rock,
1013
01:07:13,903 --> 01:07:16,975
and he's getting to be
a bit of a bloody disaster.
1014
01:07:26,414 --> 01:07:29,709
Had to leave the city.
I owed the landlord a lot of...
1015
01:07:29,711 --> 01:07:31,949
wasn't so much, but it seemed
like a lot at the time.
1016
01:07:31,951 --> 01:07:33,807
Could be 10 grand.
1017
01:07:35,983 --> 01:07:37,325
I mean, I don't know.
1018
01:07:37,327 --> 01:07:38,509
Perhaps people stopped
calling me
1019
01:07:38,511 --> 01:07:40,303
because I was too
much of a loon.
1020
01:07:49,166 --> 01:07:50,989
I had not been getting enough
1021
01:07:50,991 --> 01:07:52,909
satisfaction out
of photography for a while,
1022
01:07:52,911 --> 01:07:55,629
and I'd started to do
some art direction
1023
01:07:55,631 --> 01:07:57,548
and a bit of collage work
1024
01:07:57,550 --> 01:07:59,374
related to the art direction.
1025
01:07:59,982 --> 01:08:02,349
You know, I don't know
what I'm gonna do when I do it.
1026
01:08:02,351 --> 01:08:03,692
It just starts to form.
1027
01:08:03,694 --> 01:08:06,188
I do one or two things,
and this suggests something else
1028
01:08:06,190 --> 01:08:07,693
and this suggests
something else.
1029
01:08:07,695 --> 01:08:09,900
And then suddenly,
whoopsie daisy,
1030
01:08:09,902 --> 01:08:11,823
you got this thing.
1031
01:08:12,462 --> 01:08:13,743
Was I high at the time?
1032
01:08:14,863 --> 01:08:15,757
Yeah, I was high at the time
I did all this early work,
1033
01:08:15,759 --> 01:08:19,565
but I do it now
without being chemically,
1034
01:08:19,567 --> 01:08:20,879
you know, altered.
1035
01:08:39,246 --> 01:08:40,909
When things started
going badly,
1036
01:08:40,911 --> 01:08:43,696
I wouldn't go to David
or Lou and ask them for work.
1037
01:08:45,710 --> 01:08:47,789
I've not exactly been
that communicative with them
1038
01:08:47,791 --> 01:08:49,389
for quite some time,
1039
01:08:49,391 --> 01:08:51,632
although they've both tried,
to be honest.
1040
01:08:53,519 --> 01:08:55,149
I knew I was too fucked up
1041
01:08:55,151 --> 01:08:57,324
to be able
to face them properly, though.
1042
01:08:57,326 --> 01:08:58,735
I think there was...
1043
01:09:00,463 --> 01:09:02,124
always had some fantasy.
1044
01:09:02,126 --> 01:09:05,006
When I straightened out,
then I could see them again.
1045
01:09:08,655 --> 01:09:10,508
I don't know if I really
fell out with him.
1046
01:09:10,510 --> 01:09:11,534
I think I got very paranoid
1047
01:09:11,536 --> 01:09:13,807
because
I missed his bloody wedding.
1048
01:09:14,478 --> 01:09:17,423
I was supposed to be there
to take photographs and I...
1049
01:09:23,151 --> 01:09:24,719
I don't know, mate.
1050
01:09:25,455 --> 01:09:28,911
Just... I got myself up
a back alley.
1051
01:09:29,615 --> 01:09:31,564
It was hard to get down, really.
1052
01:09:31,566 --> 01:09:33,680
Tough to get out of it.
1053
01:10:22,094 --> 01:10:24,620
I think when the shit hit
the fan, as it were,
1054
01:10:24,622 --> 01:10:28,429
when it all started to
fall apart, I wasn't equipped.
1055
01:10:28,431 --> 01:10:32,108
And these were so strong,
and my pictures were so strong
1056
01:10:32,110 --> 01:10:34,285
that that was my identity.
1057
01:10:34,287 --> 01:10:36,687
All of them had become
a little bit of me.
1058
01:11:15,438 --> 01:11:18,063
Take it slow.
1059
01:11:32,623 --> 01:11:33,807
Did a shoot.
1060
01:11:34,895 --> 01:11:36,812
Yeah, I was actually out
in the West Side
1061
01:11:36,814 --> 01:11:39,310
when the West Side
was still very raw.
1062
01:11:40,526 --> 01:11:42,254
And it was cold, as well.
1063
01:11:54,222 --> 01:11:59,405
And, whew,
this bizarre feeling.
1064
01:11:59,407 --> 01:12:03,119
I kind of wasn't admitting
to myself what it fucking was.
1065
01:12:04,334 --> 01:12:07,055
They could see
something was going on.
1066
01:12:08,270 --> 01:12:13,199
My heart started doing the kind
of...
1067
01:12:13,933 --> 01:12:17,996
I was too stunned and too
in a state of realizing that,
1068
01:12:17,998 --> 01:12:20,492
you know, somehow this had
all been so inevitable
1069
01:12:20,494 --> 01:12:23,247
that I was
sort of beyond being scared.
1070
01:13:18,253 --> 01:13:21,230
Oh! So this was
the fucking end game.
1071
01:13:22,445 --> 01:13:25,165
I've been trying to figure out
what the end game's gonna be,
1072
01:13:25,167 --> 01:13:28,623
and it was you
on a hospital bed nearly dead.
1073
01:13:29,903 --> 01:13:32,907
And I was singing to myself
over and over again,
1074
01:13:32,909 --> 01:13:35,531
"In pastures green,
he leadeth me.
1075
01:13:35,533 --> 01:13:37,677
The quiet waters by."
1076
01:13:37,679 --> 01:13:39,088
And I was weeping.
1077
01:13:42,222 --> 01:13:43,371
My mother always says
1078
01:13:43,373 --> 01:13:45,324
we're all living on
the edge of a precipice,
1079
01:13:45,326 --> 01:13:47,727
and that always comes to mind,
1080
01:13:48,335 --> 01:13:50,892
but I will not go lightly
into that dark night,
1081
01:13:50,894 --> 01:13:53,167
that's for sure.
1082
01:17:17,614 --> 01:17:19,211
Yeah, I don't think
too hard about it
1083
01:17:19,213 --> 01:17:21,228
'cause I don't really want
to go quite back there.
1084
01:17:21,230 --> 01:17:24,109
I mean, I acknowledge it,
but I don't, like, you know,
1085
01:17:24,111 --> 01:17:25,773
get into it too much
1086
01:17:25,775 --> 01:17:29,711
because that's not something
you want to happen again.
1087
01:17:30,159 --> 01:17:31,823
No fucking way.
1088
01:17:32,878 --> 01:17:37,836
Three heart attacks followed by
quadruple bypass heart surgery,
1089
01:17:37,838 --> 01:17:40,398
all in my early 40s.
1090
01:17:41,390 --> 01:17:43,276
So, at times in my life,
1091
01:17:43,278 --> 01:17:45,069
I've certainly felt
like a failure.
1092
01:17:45,071 --> 01:17:46,924
Definitely.
Woof.
1093
01:17:46,926 --> 01:17:48,461
Beyond being a failure.
1094
01:17:48,463 --> 01:17:50,988
I was dead broke.
1095
01:17:50,990 --> 01:17:53,709
I had a serious cocaine habit.
1096
01:17:53,711 --> 01:17:55,663
I had zero insurance.
1097
01:17:56,175 --> 01:17:58,412
And there were my saviors...
1098
01:17:58,414 --> 01:18:00,972
Andrew Loog Oldham,
the original Svengali
1099
01:18:00,974 --> 01:18:02,349
of The Rolling Stones,
1100
01:18:02,351 --> 01:18:03,820
and Allen Klein,
1101
01:18:03,822 --> 01:18:06,251
who had been the business
manager of the Stones
1102
01:18:06,253 --> 01:18:08,495
and the Beatles
in the late '60s.
1103
01:18:09,357 --> 01:18:11,183
They paid for everything.
1104
01:18:11,822 --> 01:18:14,958
I think it's fair to say
they in many ways saved my life.
1105
01:18:19,886 --> 01:18:21,579
I was just a child in my times.
1106
01:18:21,581 --> 01:18:23,216
I don't think...
1107
01:18:24,749 --> 01:18:26,605
I didn't know what I was,
to be honest with you,
1108
01:18:26,607 --> 01:18:28,651
but I was something.
1109
01:18:28,653 --> 01:18:30,475
You know, something
without being full of it.
1110
01:18:30,477 --> 01:18:32,972
Just something,
and I'm looking for it.
1111
01:18:32,974 --> 01:18:34,444
It's there somewhere.
1112
01:18:34,446 --> 01:18:37,996
And it was buried deep,
and it took me so long,
1113
01:18:37,998 --> 01:18:40,875
and I had to nearly die to get
to what this Mick Rock thing is
1114
01:18:40,877 --> 01:18:42,958
other than some kind of parody.
1115
01:18:53,230 --> 01:18:55,855
Ugh. Phew.
1116
01:18:56,367 --> 01:18:58,029
Don't even know where to begin.
1117
01:18:58,031 --> 01:19:00,910
It's like a monster
that I've been dragging around.
1118
01:19:01,166 --> 01:19:07,500
I even thought of making a movie
about a photographer
1119
01:19:07,502 --> 01:19:09,807
who was trapped by his images.
1120
01:19:10,510 --> 01:19:13,775
I mean, look at it.
I can't let go of a lot of it.
1121
01:19:14,382 --> 01:19:16,174
In fact, most of it.
1122
01:19:19,565 --> 01:19:21,455
My job is to protect it.
1123
01:19:24,462 --> 01:19:26,636
I don't know how it will happen.
1124
01:19:26,638 --> 01:19:28,495
It'll just, you know...
1125
01:19:28,686 --> 01:19:30,671
I was just Michael David Rock.
1126
01:19:31,501 --> 01:19:33,007
Joan Rock's little boy.
1127
01:19:33,486 --> 01:19:37,263
And then this Mick Rock thing
took over.
1128
01:19:52,877 --> 01:19:54,925
Do you enjoy being a rock star?
1129
01:19:54,927 --> 01:19:56,462
Fantastic.
1130
01:19:56,910 --> 01:19:58,924
What do you think you are
at heart?
1131
01:19:58,926 --> 01:20:00,043
I'm an object.
1132
01:20:00,045 --> 01:20:02,220
But you live with
other people's ideas.
1133
01:20:06,125 --> 01:20:09,068
I think I make good use
of this. I tell you.
1134
01:20:09,070 --> 01:20:11,404
I'll take everything
it's got.
1135
01:20:11,406 --> 01:20:13,421
It's difficult.
But you could've had it.
1136
01:20:13,423 --> 01:20:17,007
You could've had those things
a long time ago.
1137
01:20:17,294 --> 01:20:18,991
Why now?
1138
01:21:21,071 --> 01:21:22,412
All right, lads.
1139
01:21:22,414 --> 01:21:23,852
Eyes down for England.
1140
01:21:23,854 --> 01:21:25,231
Let's get rolling.
1141
01:21:25,805 --> 01:21:28,076
I got to work this back a bit.
Very high.
1142
01:21:28,078 --> 01:21:30,925
Switch that one off
so it doesn't distract me.
1143
01:21:30,927 --> 01:21:32,975
Switch off the overhead lights.
1144
01:21:33,837 --> 01:21:35,468
Let's get some drama.
1145
01:21:35,470 --> 01:21:36,878
It's the mood.
1146
01:21:37,550 --> 01:21:39,055
Have a seat, sir.
1147
01:21:45,389 --> 01:21:46,796
I hate to say it...
1148
01:21:46,798 --> 01:21:48,363
well, maybe no, I don't.
Head up a bit.
1149
01:21:48,365 --> 01:21:51,275
- I got a dash of Rasputin.
- Oh, yeah.
1150
01:21:51,277 --> 01:21:53,835
- He's plenty...
- More than a dash.
1151
01:21:53,837 --> 01:21:55,055
Yeah, okay.
1152
01:21:56,078 --> 01:21:57,995
Ah! Ah! Ah!
1153
01:21:57,997 --> 01:22:01,420
Ah! Ah!
Ah! Ah!
1154
01:22:01,422 --> 01:22:04,652
Now, if you'll stand up
for me against the backdrop,
1155
01:22:04,654 --> 01:22:06,315
it's gonna take
a little bit of patience.
1156
01:22:06,317 --> 01:22:07,531
Move that a little bit.
1157
01:22:07,533 --> 01:22:10,189
Doesn't have to,
like, disappear, but...
1158
01:22:10,191 --> 01:22:12,012
Just come right up
to here.
1159
01:22:12,014 --> 01:22:13,870
Bring that light around.
1160
01:22:14,285 --> 01:22:16,171
Come right back
against this now.
1161
01:22:16,173 --> 01:22:18,156
You want... keep the jacket.
I like it.
1162
01:22:18,158 --> 01:22:19,947
No, but I like it down
if you want.
1163
01:22:19,949 --> 01:22:21,453
I was gonna give you
one of these.
1164
01:22:21,455 --> 01:22:22,892
Yeah, yeah,
give me one of them.
1165
01:22:22,894 --> 01:22:24,972
Yeah, yeah.
Give me four of them.
1166
01:22:24,974 --> 01:22:26,350
Mm-hmm.
1167
01:22:27,181 --> 01:22:29,132
I've done this before.
1168
01:22:29,134 --> 01:22:31,468
Listen, I'm not
expecting originality.
1169
01:22:35,855 --> 01:22:37,291
Well, I fucking...
1170
01:22:37,293 --> 01:22:39,918
I knew one shot
that I felt the love.
1171
01:22:40,782 --> 01:22:41,900
Oh, yeah.
1172
01:22:41,902 --> 01:22:44,749
Every so often, I nail one.
1173
01:22:44,751 --> 01:22:46,572
Ah! Ah! Ah!
1174
01:22:46,574 --> 01:22:48,236
Right towards me, Josh.
1175
01:22:48,238 --> 01:22:49,324
Push them right out at me.
1176
01:22:49,326 --> 01:22:50,604
There, and up a little.
1177
01:22:50,606 --> 01:22:51,756
Yeah, yeah,
whatever you want to do.
1178
01:22:51,758 --> 01:22:55,435
That's fine.
Okay, okay, okay, okay.
1179
01:22:55,437 --> 01:22:59,949
Aha, aha, aha, aha, aha.
1180
01:23:01,453 --> 01:23:03,244
Did I get off?
Nearly.
1181
01:23:21,230 --> 01:23:25,068
I know I need to do these
things for therapeutic reasons.
1182
01:23:25,070 --> 01:23:28,171
I'm better and healthier
when I do them.
1183
01:23:28,173 --> 01:23:29,868
There's a lot of
different pressures,
1184
01:23:29,870 --> 01:23:31,691
but really, once I'm
in the open field
1185
01:23:31,693 --> 01:23:34,092
where the creative part
is happening,
1186
01:23:34,094 --> 01:23:37,388
whatever the fuck else
is going, that, you know.
1187
01:23:37,390 --> 01:23:40,139
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Beautiful, beautiful,
1188
01:23:40,141 --> 01:23:41,611
I love it,
I love it, I love it.
1189
01:23:41,613 --> 01:23:43,661
Yes, stay.
Stay with me.
1190
01:23:43,663 --> 01:23:45,195
There's a certain hunger
1191
01:23:45,197 --> 01:23:47,180
comes over me
when I pick up a camera.
1192
01:23:47,182 --> 01:23:49,196
Sometimes I joke about,
you know,
1193
01:23:49,198 --> 01:23:51,340
being a bit of a vampire,
1194
01:23:51,342 --> 01:23:53,003
and especially
shooting younger people
1195
01:23:53,005 --> 01:23:55,055
'cause the blood
tastes better.
1196
01:23:58,382 --> 01:23:59,724
The hands...
move the hands around.
1197
01:23:59,726 --> 01:24:02,795
Like, very...
I mean, the robot,
1198
01:24:02,797 --> 01:24:05,356
but... ah, super.
1199
01:24:05,358 --> 01:24:07,531
This is one for
the fucking ages.
1200
01:24:07,533 --> 01:24:09,611
The only control
you have is in the doing
1201
01:24:09,613 --> 01:24:11,179
of what you're doing.
1202
01:24:11,181 --> 01:24:14,862
You can't dictate
what will have resonance.
1203
01:24:24,621 --> 01:24:27,307
The thing that used to
irritate me is, you know, he...
1204
01:24:27,309 --> 01:24:29,356
"Oh, the man that photographed
this person or that person,"
1205
01:24:29,358 --> 01:24:31,180
but after a while,
1206
01:24:31,182 --> 01:24:33,195
you're gonna stop being called
the man who shot the '70s.
1207
01:24:33,197 --> 01:24:34,859
It's just a tag, right?
1208
01:24:34,861 --> 01:24:36,908
But whatever.
It is what it is,
1209
01:24:36,910 --> 01:24:40,172
and it's better that
you're thought of in some way
1210
01:24:40,174 --> 01:24:42,796
that is, like, not so awful
1211
01:24:42,798 --> 01:24:44,589
than not to be
thought of at all.
1212
01:24:49,934 --> 01:24:52,267
Of course, the amazing thing
for me nowadays
1213
01:24:52,269 --> 01:24:54,476
is that this rock 'n' roll
photography stuff
1214
01:24:54,478 --> 01:24:56,428
is in museums and galleries
1215
01:24:56,430 --> 01:24:59,276
and cultural institutions
all over the world,
1216
01:24:59,278 --> 01:25:03,596
and I keep thinking
something went very wrong.
1217
01:25:03,598 --> 01:25:06,731
We were supposed to be rebels
and outsiders,
1218
01:25:06,733 --> 01:25:08,619
but nowadays,
1219
01:25:08,621 --> 01:25:11,535
we have been absorbed
by the modern establishment.
1220
01:25:19,277 --> 01:25:22,350
Ladies and gentlemen, Mick Rock!
1221
01:25:32,045 --> 01:25:33,835
I got lucky a lot.
Didn't I, Lou?
1222
01:25:33,837 --> 01:25:36,427
I got very lucky at times.
Let's be honest.
1223
01:25:36,429 --> 01:25:39,851
When you have that much luck,
at a certain point,
1224
01:25:39,853 --> 01:25:42,446
you have to say there
is more involved.
1225
01:25:43,181 --> 01:25:45,931
You know, continuously
in the right place
1226
01:25:45,933 --> 01:25:48,779
at the right time
with an instrument
1227
01:25:48,781 --> 01:25:51,916
that continuously takes
beautiful pictures.
1228
01:25:51,918 --> 01:25:56,335
So, granted that...
that Rock has no talent.
1229
01:26:04,782 --> 01:26:06,315
You know, I just think
1230
01:26:06,317 --> 01:26:09,099
if you have the right
obsessive nature,
1231
01:26:09,101 --> 01:26:11,020
you know, could be a sick
obsessive nature,
1232
01:26:11,022 --> 01:26:13,995
but you have to have
the capacity
1233
01:26:13,997 --> 01:26:16,748
to be fascinated.
1234
01:26:16,750 --> 01:26:19,083
And I think you
can fascinate me.
1235
01:26:19,085 --> 01:26:22,255
I'm like, you know,
a baboon with a banana.
1236
01:26:23,597 --> 01:26:25,775
And a camera, of course.
1237
01:27:00,206 --> 01:27:01,739
The mystery of it all.
1238
01:27:01,741 --> 01:27:03,211
That's what excites me,
1239
01:27:03,213 --> 01:27:05,835
is how mysterious
so much of this is
1240
01:27:05,837 --> 01:27:08,492
and how these things happen
and why they happen,
1241
01:27:08,494 --> 01:27:09,739
and the fact that, you know,
1242
01:27:09,741 --> 01:27:11,723
you can kind
of smell this stuff,
1243
01:27:11,725 --> 01:27:14,219
but you can't
really describe it.
1244
01:27:14,221 --> 01:27:16,268
I mean, I love...
1245
01:27:16,270 --> 01:27:18,575
I love to take pictures.
1246
01:27:57,710 --> 01:27:59,787
♪ I got a date with the night ♪
1247
01:27:59,789 --> 01:28:01,292
Yeah,
crank it up a little bit!
1248
01:28:01,294 --> 01:28:02,603
Liven it up
just a little.
1249
01:28:02,605 --> 01:28:04,204
Little bit.
Yeah.
1250
01:28:04,206 --> 01:28:07,339
♪ Gonna catch the kids dry ♪
1251
01:28:07,341 --> 01:28:10,316
♪ Gonna walk on water ♪
1252
01:28:10,318 --> 01:28:12,780
This guy's a right fucking
cunt and he's mad as a hatter.
1253
01:28:12,782 --> 01:28:14,636
I thought, "Send him
over immediately."
1254
01:28:14,638 --> 01:28:17,131
♪ Sweating in the winter ♪
1255
01:28:17,133 --> 01:28:19,500
♪ Both thighs squeeze tight ♪
1256
01:28:19,502 --> 01:28:21,707
Where is he? Is he doing yoga
somewhere in the building?
1257
01:28:21,709 --> 01:28:25,260
♪ Choke, choke, choke, choke,
choke, choke, choke, choke ♪
1258
01:28:25,262 --> 01:28:27,563
♪ Choke, choke, choke, choke,
choke, choke, choke ♪
1259
01:28:27,565 --> 01:28:30,955
♪ Don't tell me to fix her ♪
1260
01:28:30,957 --> 01:28:34,091
♪ Don't tell me to fix her ♪
1261
01:28:34,093 --> 01:28:35,883
♪ Just take a bite ♪
1262
01:28:35,885 --> 01:28:37,868
Come on in, gentlemen.
1263
01:28:37,870 --> 01:28:40,619
- ♪ No hanging no picture ♪
- All hands on deck.
1264
01:28:40,621 --> 01:28:42,091
Fucking Motley Crue come
1265
01:28:42,093 --> 01:28:43,915
for a spanking session
with Mick Rock.
1266
01:28:43,917 --> 01:28:45,836
No laughing, you cunts.
1267
01:28:47,726 --> 01:28:48,876
Watch the birdie.
1268
01:28:48,878 --> 01:28:50,507
Keep... keep your eyes
on the prize.
1269
01:28:50,509 --> 01:28:52,460
Keep your eyes
on the prize.
1270
01:28:52,462 --> 01:28:56,139
♪ Choke, choke, choke,
choke, choke, choke, choke ♪
1271
01:28:56,141 --> 01:28:59,499
♪ Choke, choke,
choke, choke, choke ♪
1272
01:29:01,070 --> 01:29:03,023
Hold your horses.
1273
01:29:04,557 --> 01:29:06,251
Yeah, you can do it, too.
1274
01:29:06,253 --> 01:29:08,460
Helps if you're high,
of course.
1275
01:29:08,462 --> 01:29:10,668
No, I want to fucking feel it.
Can I feel it?
1276
01:29:11,788 --> 01:29:14,605
Oh, dear.
A bit too old for this.
1277
01:29:15,821 --> 01:29:18,956
What's my name?
What's my name, Lenny?
1278
01:29:18,958 --> 01:29:20,142
Mick Rock.
1279
01:29:23,278 --> 01:29:24,813
Final roll.
1280
01:29:25,421 --> 01:29:27,340
You know what he said
working with me was like?
1281
01:29:27,342 --> 01:29:28,684
Tell 'em. Tell 'em.
1282
01:29:28,686 --> 01:29:30,924
- You said it.
- It's like doing crack.
1283
01:29:30,926 --> 01:29:32,367
It's fucking like doing crack.
1284
01:29:36,301 --> 01:29:37,676
♪ Gonna catch the kids dry ♪
1285
01:29:37,678 --> 01:29:39,851
Everybody scream.
Can't keep it straight.
1286
01:29:39,853 --> 01:29:43,019
♪ Gonna bend my finger ♪
1287
01:29:43,021 --> 01:29:46,284
♪ Blind out my sight ♪
1288
01:29:46,286 --> 01:29:49,229
♪ We're sweating in the winter ♪
1289
01:29:49,741 --> 01:29:51,086
You smell good.
1290
01:29:52,812 --> 01:29:54,158
Kisses all around.
1291
01:29:55,758 --> 01:29:58,091
Oh, oh, oh.
1292
01:29:58,093 --> 01:29:59,627
Oh, yeah.
One more.
1293
01:29:59,629 --> 01:30:01,166
One more.
1294
01:30:03,693 --> 01:30:05,614
- You're fabulous.
- Oh.
1295
01:30:08,271 --> 01:30:13,271
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