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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:02,960 (trumpet jazz music) 2 00:00:12,320 --> 00:00:14,200 - The flaming trumpet. 3 00:00:14,200 --> 00:00:16,520 Once when I was in junior high school, 4 00:00:16,520 --> 00:00:19,480 preparing to perform in the school talent show, 5 00:00:19,480 --> 00:00:22,120 my father asked me if I thought it would be a good effect 6 00:00:22,120 --> 00:00:25,360 to have fire shooting out of the trumpet as I played. 7 00:00:25,360 --> 00:00:27,920 (trumpet jazz music) 8 00:00:27,920 --> 00:00:28,920 Of course, I had to admit 9 00:00:28,920 --> 00:00:31,600 that that would indeed be very impressive. 10 00:00:32,480 --> 00:00:35,560 He then went into his workshop and began tinkering around. 11 00:00:35,560 --> 00:00:39,200 (trumpet jazz music) 12 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:42,680 And by the very next day, I found myself holding 13 00:00:42,680 --> 00:00:42,720 in my hands a flaming trumpet. And by the very next day, I found myself holding 14 00:00:42,720 --> 00:00:46,120 in my hands a flaming trumpet. 15 00:00:46,120 --> 00:00:49,240 (cheerful piano music) 16 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:41,280 - Who's Claude Shannon? 17 00:01:41,280 --> 00:01:42,440 - Who's Claude Shannon? 18 00:01:42,440 --> 00:01:43,240 - Claude Shannon? 19 00:01:43,240 --> 00:01:44,520 - You're asking me this question? 20 00:01:44,520 --> 00:01:47,760 - I often go back to this... 21 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:47,800 Well, you've probably heard the word bit. - I often go back to this... 22 00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:49,880 Well, you've probably heard the word bit. 23 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:49,920 - We live in the information age Well, you've probably heard the word bit. 24 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:51,720 - We live in the information age 25 00:01:51,720 --> 00:01:53,800 and he's the father of the information theory. 26 00:01:53,800 --> 00:01:56,760 - Doesn't everybody know who Claude Shannon is? 27 00:01:56,760 --> 00:01:56,800 - If you value the fact that your iPhone can contact - Doesn't everybody know who Claude Shannon is? 28 00:01:56,800 --> 00:02:01,280 - If you value the fact that your iPhone can contact 29 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:05,200 and call for you an Uber, and then place a phone call, 30 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:08,560 and then text a friend, and then check your email, 31 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:12,800 all of those things you owe to Claude Shannon and his work. 32 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:14,560 - I truly believe he's at the same level 33 00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:14,600 as Newton or Einstein. - I truly believe he's at the same level 34 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:16,160 as Newton or Einstein. 35 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:17,720 - Why don't people know about him? 36 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:19,600 They know about Alexander Graham Bell, 37 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:19,640 they know about Henry Ford, but so few people have heard They know about Alexander Graham Bell, 38 00:02:19,640 --> 00:02:22,720 they know about Henry Ford, but so few people have heard 39 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:26,560 of Claude Shannon, and his impact is bigger than all 40 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:28,400 of the household names. 41 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:29,880 - I didn't know that that was one person, 42 00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:31,160 and whoever that one person was 43 00:02:31,160 --> 00:02:33,120 is probably the most important person in our time. 44 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:34,480 - What would the world look like 45 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:36,560 if Claude Shannon hadn't done what he did? 46 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:41,920 (piano key boings) 47 00:02:41,920 --> 00:02:43,000 (gentle instrumental music) 48 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:43,040 - By the 1980s, the revolution (gentle instrumental music) 49 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:45,000 - By the 1980s, the revolution 50 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:45,040 that he started is in full swing, - By the 1980s, the revolution 51 00:02:45,040 --> 00:02:48,240 that he started is in full swing, 52 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:50,680 but he is nowhere to be found. 53 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:53,320 He's a founding father, 54 00:02:53,320 --> 00:02:55,800 but he's a distant historical figure, 55 00:02:55,800 --> 00:02:57,480 sort of like George Washington. 56 00:02:58,840 --> 00:03:00,800 And nobody really knows what he's doing. 57 00:03:01,600 --> 00:03:05,120 (gentle instrumental music) 58 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:40,360 (Claude clears throat) 59 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:41,520 - Is this where you want me to sit? 60 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:42,760 - Yes, please. 61 00:03:44,480 --> 00:03:45,560 Let's see... 62 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:51,320 - Here we go. 63 00:03:51,320 --> 00:03:52,680 - Thank you again for agreeing 64 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:52,720 to see me, Dr. Shannon. - Thank you again for agreeing 65 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:54,160 to see me, Dr. Shannon. 66 00:03:55,160 --> 00:03:57,040 This is an amazing room. 67 00:03:57,040 --> 00:04:01,840 - I guess it must seem pretty funny a grown man 68 00:04:01,920 --> 00:04:04,800 has a room full of toys. (chuckles) 69 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:04,840 My life's work. (laughs) has a room full of toys. (chuckles) 70 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:06,520 My life's work. (laughs) 71 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:08,080 - I don't think you need to worry 72 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:09,840 about just being remembered for your toys. 73 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:13,240 - Claude doesn't overly worry about how he'll be remembered. 74 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:13,280 - No. - Claude doesn't overly worry about how he'll be remembered. 75 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:14,080 - No. 76 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:16,640 How'd you uncover me again, Michelle? 77 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:18,640 - As I said on the phone, I'm working 78 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:22,040 on a project about the founders of the modern age, 79 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:25,160 and I kept seeing over and over again, 80 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:28,800 "Claude Shannon, the father of Information Theory." 81 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:30,280 (Claude chuckles) 82 00:04:30,280 --> 00:04:33,040 But nobody seemed to know what you're doing now. 83 00:04:34,280 --> 00:04:37,480 Your 1948 paper was a blueprint 84 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:40,120 for what people are calling The Information Age. 85 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:40,160 - Well, I wrote that nearly 40 years ago. for what people are calling The Information Age. 86 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:42,520 - Well, I wrote that nearly 40 years ago. 87 00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:43,520 - Yes. 88 00:04:43,520 --> 00:04:43,560 In a sense you saw the future. - Yes. 89 00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:45,760 In a sense you saw the future. 90 00:04:45,760 --> 00:04:46,760 How did you do that? 91 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:48,960 (Betty chuckles) 92 00:04:48,960 --> 00:04:49,000 (Claude chuckles) (Betty chuckles) 93 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:50,360 (Claude chuckles) 94 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:52,120 - How long do you plan on being here? 95 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:52,160 (Claude and Betty laugh) - How long do you plan on being here? 96 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:52,920 (Claude and Betty laugh) 97 00:04:52,920 --> 00:04:54,480 - Maybe I should get some coffee. 98 00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:55,280 - Oh, good. 99 00:04:55,280 --> 00:04:57,840 (Claude and Betty laugh) 100 00:04:57,840 --> 00:05:02,600 The fact is, Michelle, that my mind wanders around 101 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:09,680 and conceives of different things day and night. 102 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:13,960 Well, like a science fiction writer, I think, 103 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:16,680 "What if it were like this?" 104 00:05:19,160 --> 00:05:20,440 And I never particularly cared 105 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:25,240 whether anybody was interested in it or wanted to work on it 106 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:28,560 or thought I was right. 107 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:28,600 (dramatic music) or thought I was right. 108 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:29,960 (dramatic music) 109 00:05:29,960 --> 00:05:33,920 I was always interested in communication things, whether 110 00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:33,960 or not people thought that's what I should be working on. I was always interested in communication things, whether 111 00:05:33,960 --> 00:05:37,000 or not people thought that's what I should be working on. 112 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:37,040 (dramatic music) or not people thought that's what I should be working on. 113 00:05:37,040 --> 00:05:39,680 (dramatic music) 114 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:45,000 (man shouts) 115 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:46,520 - Shannon thought about the problem 116 00:05:46,520 --> 00:05:49,920 of communication in a way that nobody else 117 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:50,960 had ever thought of. 118 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:56,640 The basic problem is how do you get a message 119 00:05:56,640 --> 00:05:56,680 from one place to another? The basic problem is how do you get a message 120 00:05:56,680 --> 00:05:58,240 from one place to another? 121 00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:03,840 The challenge was always how to go faster, 122 00:06:03,840 --> 00:06:06,720 how to go farther, and how to be more accurate. 123 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:08,680 (horse neighs) 124 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:11,400 The huge advance was the discovery 125 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:14,200 of how to use electricity to communicate. 126 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:17,400 (phone ringing) 127 00:06:17,400 --> 00:06:18,640 - Hello? 128 00:06:18,640 --> 00:06:18,680 Hello? - Hello? 129 00:06:18,680 --> 00:06:19,440 Hello? 130 00:06:19,440 --> 00:06:19,480 - But initially it was very unreliable, Hello? 131 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:21,880 - But initially it was very unreliable, 132 00:06:24,280 --> 00:06:27,080 and efforts to improve things were just haphazard. 133 00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:31,840 And then, Shannon came along and asked a question 134 00:06:31,840 --> 00:06:33,800 that hadn't even occurred to anyone, 135 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:38,720 "Could you construct a universal theory of communication 136 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:41,400 "that could allow perfect communication?" 137 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:45,360 He drew a very simple diagram. 138 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:49,640 You have some information you wanna send 139 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:53,920 and you have to convert it into something like sound waves 140 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:56,920 or electrical pulses or light that can be sent 141 00:06:56,920 --> 00:07:00,480 over a channel or medium, like air or wires. 142 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:04,160 There's things that can disrupt the signal on that medium, 143 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:04,200 like static or smoke or noise There's things that can disrupt the signal on that medium, 144 00:07:04,200 --> 00:07:07,120 like static or smoke or noise 145 00:07:07,120 --> 00:07:07,160 before it gets to the receiver. like static or smoke or noise 146 00:07:07,160 --> 00:07:09,480 before it gets to the receiver. 147 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:11,440 And then the receiver converts the signal back 148 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:11,480 into something that's hopefully really close And then the receiver converts the signal back 149 00:07:11,480 --> 00:07:14,920 into something that's hopefully really close 150 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:16,360 to the original message. 151 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:22,880 The diagram looked trivial, but it allowed Shannon 152 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:25,400 to break the problem of communication down 153 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:29,120 into its essential parts and create a universal theory 154 00:07:29,120 --> 00:07:31,560 that you can apply to anything you want. 155 00:07:32,720 --> 00:07:36,120 - This is a calculator I built to do calculations 156 00:07:36,120 --> 00:07:37,240 with Roman numerals. 157 00:07:37,240 --> 00:07:38,760 I call it THROBAC: 158 00:07:38,760 --> 00:07:38,800 Thrifty Roman Numeral Backward Looking Computer. I call it THROBAC: 159 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:41,720 Thrifty Roman Numeral Backward Looking Computer. 160 00:07:45,600 --> 00:07:48,320 - Did you make that here at MIT? 161 00:07:48,320 --> 00:07:48,360 - No, I made it when I was at Bell Laboratories - Did you make that here at MIT? 162 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:51,800 - No, I made it when I was at Bell Laboratories 163 00:07:51,800 --> 00:07:54,360 when I should've been working on communication things. 164 00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:56,480 - It didn't have a big commercial market. 165 00:07:56,480 --> 00:07:59,720 (Claude chuckles) 166 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:01,160 - There are some important things 167 00:08:01,160 --> 00:08:03,040 that made Claude Shannon the thinker 168 00:08:03,040 --> 00:08:03,080 and the mind that he was. that made Claude Shannon the thinker 169 00:08:03,080 --> 00:08:04,760 and the mind that he was. 170 00:08:04,760 --> 00:08:06,280 I believe it was important that he grew up 171 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:08,600 in Gaylord, Michigan, I think it was important 172 00:08:08,600 --> 00:08:10,320 that he came of age in the Midwest, 173 00:08:10,320 --> 00:08:10,360 and I think it was equally important that he came of age that he came of age in the Midwest, 174 00:08:10,360 --> 00:08:12,920 and I think it was equally important that he came of age 175 00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:16,880 in a town that built things, where a boy like him could, 176 00:08:16,880 --> 00:08:19,680 with his best friend, go to his friend's backyard 177 00:08:19,680 --> 00:08:21,480 and build an elevator in a barn. 178 00:08:24,040 --> 00:08:25,480 - My mother was a principal 179 00:08:25,480 --> 00:08:25,520 at the high school. - My mother was a principal 180 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:28,160 at the high school. 181 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:30,400 My father had a bunch of jobs. 182 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:31,600 He had a furniture store. 183 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:34,480 He was a probate judge. 184 00:08:36,360 --> 00:08:38,480 And he was also an undertaker. 185 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:43,880 He got me an erector set. 186 00:08:44,920 --> 00:08:46,800 It's still one of my favorite toys. 187 00:08:49,880 --> 00:08:52,720 My grandfather was a very interesting character, 188 00:08:52,720 --> 00:08:54,200 he was always inventing things. 189 00:08:55,760 --> 00:08:58,000 He was intent on determining if the turn 190 00:08:58,000 --> 00:09:01,160 of the century was 1900 or 1901. 191 00:09:02,720 --> 00:09:04,920 I was very impressed he spent so much time 192 00:09:04,920 --> 00:09:07,480 on something most people thought was totally useless. 193 00:09:12,440 --> 00:09:15,760 (cheerful pianola music) 194 00:09:43,280 --> 00:09:45,240 - So, would you say your first experiment 195 00:09:45,240 --> 00:09:48,000 in communication was a failure? 196 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:50,360 - No, but there was a lot of noise 197 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:50,400 on the line. - No, but there was a lot of noise 198 00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:51,960 on the line. 199 00:09:51,960 --> 00:09:54,280 - Motivation to come up with something better? 200 00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:54,320 - A little error could turn - Motivation to come up with something better? 201 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:56,000 - A little error could turn 202 00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:59,760 "Do you like me?" into "Do you hear me?" 203 00:09:59,760 --> 00:09:59,800 And which she was answering was very important to me. "Do you like me?" into "Do you hear me?" 204 00:09:59,800 --> 00:10:03,560 And which she was answering was very important to me. 205 00:10:03,560 --> 00:10:05,480 - So, you used Morse code? 206 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:06,280 - Oh, you bet. 207 00:10:06,280 --> 00:10:09,080 Morse already invented the binary code, 208 00:10:09,080 --> 00:10:09,120 with dots and dashes, and he had the great idea of going Morse already invented the binary code, 209 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:12,200 with dots and dashes, and he had the great idea of going 210 00:10:12,200 --> 00:10:12,240 to a print shop to find out which letters we use the most. with dots and dashes, and he had the great idea of going 211 00:10:12,240 --> 00:10:16,400 to a print shop to find out which letters we use the most. 212 00:10:16,400 --> 00:10:16,440 E, the most common letter, gets the shortest code, dot. to a print shop to find out which letters we use the most. 213 00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:19,800 E, the most common letter, gets the shortest code, dot. 214 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:25,800 T, the second most common, gets the dash, and so on. 215 00:10:26,480 --> 00:10:28,120 Exactly the sort of things I was thinking 216 00:10:28,120 --> 00:10:29,280 about 100 years later. 217 00:10:30,320 --> 00:10:31,560 - He had what we would probably call now 218 00:10:31,560 --> 00:10:32,440 a free range childhood, 219 00:10:32,440 --> 00:10:32,480 even though there wasn't really a term for it back a free range childhood, 220 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:34,240 even though there wasn't really a term for it back 221 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:36,680 in the 1910s and '20s; but these were things 222 00:10:36,680 --> 00:10:39,680 like rigging up a barbed wire telegraph 223 00:10:39,680 --> 00:10:39,720 to connect his house to his neighbors house like rigging up a barbed wire telegraph 224 00:10:39,720 --> 00:10:41,160 to connect his house to his neighbors house 225 00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:43,880 along the fences, things like learning wigwag signaling, 226 00:10:43,880 --> 00:10:46,040 which is the idea of sending Morse code with flags 227 00:10:46,040 --> 00:10:46,080 so that your body kind of becomes a sort which is the idea of sending Morse code with flags 228 00:10:46,080 --> 00:10:48,240 so that your body kind of becomes a sort 229 00:10:48,240 --> 00:10:49,520 of Morse code telegraph, 230 00:10:51,080 --> 00:10:52,640 things like solving math puzzles. 231 00:10:52,640 --> 00:10:53,920 Shannon's favorite story growing up 232 00:10:53,920 --> 00:10:55,880 was Edgar Allan Poe's "The Goldbug." 233 00:10:55,880 --> 00:10:59,240 (gentle clavichord music) 234 00:11:00,280 --> 00:11:04,280 - Poe loved codes and cryptography, just like me. 235 00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:06,520 He even invited his readers 236 00:11:06,520 --> 00:11:06,560 to send him their own cryptograms that he'd solve. He even invited his readers 237 00:11:06,560 --> 00:11:09,800 to send him their own cryptograms that he'd solve. 238 00:11:14,360 --> 00:11:17,840 In "The Goldbug," a man finds a scrap of paper 239 00:11:17,840 --> 00:11:21,120 with a coded message that tells where the pirate, 240 00:11:21,120 --> 00:11:23,640 Captain Kidd, buried his treasure. 241 00:11:23,640 --> 00:11:27,160 (gentle instrumental music) 242 00:11:32,280 --> 00:11:34,840 The message is written in invisible ink though 243 00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:34,880 and only appears when it's held up to a flame. The message is written in invisible ink though 244 00:11:34,880 --> 00:11:37,720 and only appears when it's held up to a flame. 245 00:11:42,080 --> 00:11:45,680 Poe shows how you can break the code 246 00:11:45,680 --> 00:11:48,640 by connecting the most used symbols 247 00:11:48,640 --> 00:11:50,880 to the most used letters in English. 248 00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:55,280 (gentle instrumental music) 249 00:11:59,640 --> 00:12:02,280 It's just like Morse did, in reverse. 250 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:07,720 Just like Alan Turing did, too, during the war, 251 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:07,760 looking for patterns to break the German codes. Just like Alan Turing did, too, during the war, 252 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:10,640 looking for patterns to break the German codes. 253 00:12:12,360 --> 00:12:15,720 Finding patterns, that's the key. 254 00:12:21,480 --> 00:12:25,080 - The foremost characteristic of my father was playfulness. 255 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:27,680 Play infused everything he did. 256 00:12:29,720 --> 00:12:32,720 And you can see that in all the machines he made, 257 00:12:32,720 --> 00:12:34,400 like, who makes a flaming trumpet? 258 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:38,040 Making a chair lift to go down to lake and come back, 259 00:12:38,040 --> 00:12:40,720 that was a playful thing that he did with Marvin Minsky. 260 00:12:42,840 --> 00:12:44,040 Nothing was sacred. 261 00:12:46,560 --> 00:12:49,320 My brother, Andrew, had an idea for a rocket-powered Frisbee 262 00:12:49,320 --> 00:12:49,360 and my father loved that. My brother, Andrew, had an idea for a rocket-powered Frisbee 263 00:12:49,360 --> 00:12:51,040 and my father loved that. 264 00:12:51,040 --> 00:12:53,760 (Frisbee buzzing) 265 00:12:55,240 --> 00:12:59,200 If we had a tray of coffee cake, somebody, 266 00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:00,360 if they were cutting a piece, 267 00:13:00,360 --> 00:13:02,040 they usually wouldn't cut a piece off the end, 268 00:13:02,040 --> 00:13:04,040 they would cut a piece out of the middle. 269 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:07,480 And they might cut it out in an interesting shape, 270 00:13:07,480 --> 00:13:08,760 it wouldn't just be a square. 271 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:08,800 It might be an octagon, it might be a pentagon, it wouldn't just be a square. 272 00:13:08,800 --> 00:13:10,920 It might be an octagon, it might be a pentagon, 273 00:13:10,920 --> 00:13:11,880 something like that. 274 00:13:14,680 --> 00:13:16,720 He tried to fool with everything a little bit 275 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:16,760 and see if he could make it more fun. He tried to fool with everything a little bit 276 00:13:16,760 --> 00:13:18,640 and see if he could make it more fun. 277 00:13:18,640 --> 00:13:21,800 - I was a big fan of "Alice in Wonderland" 278 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:23,880 and "Through the Looking-Glass." 279 00:13:23,880 --> 00:13:26,240 You know, Lewis Carroll was a mathematician, too. 280 00:13:27,800 --> 00:13:28,600 (rabbit sneezes) 281 00:13:28,600 --> 00:13:33,360 Wonderland is full of word games and codes 282 00:13:33,360 --> 00:13:35,400 and mathematical ideas. 283 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:41,800 "Through the Looking" is almost like a big chess game 284 00:13:41,800 --> 00:13:44,360 with crazy rules of logic. 285 00:13:44,360 --> 00:13:46,720 - Stop, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop. 286 00:13:46,720 --> 00:13:47,520 - Carroll liked 287 00:13:47,520 --> 00:13:49,280 to invent funny word puzzles 288 00:13:49,280 --> 00:13:52,000 that you could solve with mathematics. 289 00:13:54,640 --> 00:13:57,080 He used something called Boolean algebra 290 00:13:57,080 --> 00:14:00,120 to convert the words into equations. 291 00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:02,720 The only numbers in Boolean algebra are zero 292 00:14:02,720 --> 00:14:06,360 and one, nothing and everything. 293 00:14:07,760 --> 00:14:10,080 And you could reach a conclusion by adding 294 00:14:10,080 --> 00:14:10,120 and multiplying the equations. And you could reach a conclusion by adding 295 00:14:10,120 --> 00:14:11,920 and multiplying the equations. 296 00:14:13,920 --> 00:14:16,280 - So, what's the answer? 297 00:14:16,280 --> 00:14:18,720 - Babies cannot manage crocodiles. 298 00:14:20,160 --> 00:14:23,160 - He couldn't do mental arithmetic any better 299 00:14:23,160 --> 00:14:23,200 than the average person. - He couldn't do mental arithmetic any better 300 00:14:23,200 --> 00:14:24,920 than the average person. 301 00:14:24,920 --> 00:14:27,840 And if he had two numbers to multiply, 26 times 42, 302 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:30,360 he'd go on the blackboard, 26, 42, 303 00:14:30,360 --> 00:14:34,280 and do long multiplication, which was... 304 00:14:34,280 --> 00:14:37,840 You'd think he'd just be, you know, a numbers genius. 305 00:14:37,840 --> 00:14:40,600 No, he was much bigger than that. 306 00:14:40,600 --> 00:14:43,400 - I got two Bachelor's degrees at Michigan. 307 00:14:43,400 --> 00:14:46,760 One in electrical engineering, the other in mathematics. 308 00:14:48,440 --> 00:14:51,520 I really wasn't sure what to do at all, 309 00:14:51,520 --> 00:14:54,080 and I saw a little postcard on the wall 310 00:14:54,080 --> 00:14:56,480 that said MIT was looking for a research assistant 311 00:14:56,480 --> 00:14:56,520 to run a machine that could solve equations. that said MIT was looking for a research assistant 312 00:14:56,520 --> 00:14:59,720 to run a machine that could solve equations. 313 00:14:59,720 --> 00:15:02,600 They called it The Thinking Machine. 314 00:15:02,600 --> 00:15:04,200 That sounded interesting. 315 00:15:04,200 --> 00:15:06,800 Vannevar Bush (chuckles) 316 00:15:08,640 --> 00:15:12,120 right over there, he invented it. 317 00:15:12,120 --> 00:15:15,400 He was pretty famous in the world of engineering by then, 318 00:15:15,400 --> 00:15:20,200 so I applied and spent the next four years at MIT. 319 00:15:21,920 --> 00:15:26,160 (intense instrumental music) 320 00:15:26,160 --> 00:15:26,200 - The electromechanical Differential Analyzer (intense instrumental music) 321 00:15:26,200 --> 00:15:28,720 - The electromechanical Differential Analyzer 322 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:28,760 performs scientific and industrial marvels - The electromechanical Differential Analyzer 323 00:15:28,760 --> 00:15:31,280 performs scientific and industrial marvels 324 00:15:31,280 --> 00:15:34,080 at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology. 325 00:15:34,080 --> 00:15:37,280 Perforated tape introduces the data to the 100-ton marvel, 326 00:15:37,280 --> 00:15:37,320 which solves problems Perforated tape introduces the data to the 100-ton marvel, 327 00:15:37,320 --> 00:15:38,520 which solves problems 328 00:15:38,520 --> 00:15:41,280 beyond the ordinary methods of calculation. 329 00:15:41,280 --> 00:15:42,240 - The Thinking Machine, 330 00:15:42,240 --> 00:15:42,280 which officially was called the Differential Analyzer, - The Thinking Machine, 331 00:15:42,280 --> 00:15:46,840 which officially was called the Differential Analyzer, 332 00:15:46,840 --> 00:15:51,640 was the smartest calculating machine of the time. 333 00:15:51,640 --> 00:15:55,920 All sorts of gears and rotating shafts and wheels and so on, 334 00:15:55,920 --> 00:15:57,720 it must've weighed 100 tons. 335 00:15:58,600 --> 00:16:02,200 My job was to set the different wheels 336 00:16:02,200 --> 00:16:04,440 and things to solve equations. 337 00:16:06,080 --> 00:16:10,120 The heart of the machine though was electric switches, 338 00:16:10,120 --> 00:16:10,160 just like the switches you find The heart of the machine though was electric switches, 339 00:16:10,160 --> 00:16:11,400 just like the switches you find 340 00:16:11,400 --> 00:16:13,960 in a telephone network to route calls. 341 00:16:15,400 --> 00:16:16,760 It occurred to me, 342 00:16:16,760 --> 00:16:16,800 because I'd taken the Boolean algebra course in Michigan, It occurred to me, 343 00:16:16,800 --> 00:16:21,560 because I'd taken the Boolean algebra course in Michigan, 344 00:16:24,640 --> 00:16:26,160 that there was a beautiful parallel 345 00:16:26,160 --> 00:16:30,960 between electric switches, which are just on or off, 346 00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:39,040 and Boolean algebra which reduced everything 347 00:16:39,040 --> 00:16:40,160 to true and false. 348 00:16:40,160 --> 00:16:42,800 I used one for true and zero for false. 349 00:16:44,240 --> 00:16:45,720 I worked out the mathematics, 350 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:47,880 which had some funny things like, 351 00:16:47,880 --> 00:16:47,920 if a true statement plus a true statement which had some funny things like, 352 00:16:47,920 --> 00:16:50,920 if a true statement plus a true statement 353 00:16:50,920 --> 00:16:55,680 equals true statement, that means one plus one equals one. 354 00:16:58,480 --> 00:17:01,040 I wrote it all up for my Master's thesis 355 00:17:01,040 --> 00:17:05,840 and that was the beginning of my great career. (laughs) 356 00:17:09,200 --> 00:17:11,400 - So, his Master's thesis is considered 357 00:17:11,400 --> 00:17:15,000 the most important Master's thesis of all time. 358 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:15,040 And he writes this at the age of 21. the most important Master's thesis of all time. 359 00:17:15,040 --> 00:17:18,400 And he writes this at the age of 21. 360 00:17:18,400 --> 00:17:20,080 He even wins a prize. 361 00:17:20,080 --> 00:17:21,640 It's the Noble Prize. 362 00:17:21,640 --> 00:17:25,280 Now, that's not Noble, it's N-O-B-L-E is the prize 363 00:17:25,280 --> 00:17:26,120 that he wins. 364 00:17:26,120 --> 00:17:29,160 It's very prestigious, it's given to the top engineer. 365 00:17:29,160 --> 00:17:32,760 He's the youngest recipient ever, and he gets prize money, 366 00:17:32,760 --> 00:17:32,800 a certificate, he's invited to give the paper He's the youngest recipient ever, and he gets prize money, 367 00:17:32,800 --> 00:17:35,800 a certificate, he's invited to give the paper 368 00:17:35,800 --> 00:17:38,160 to an audience of engineers in Washington D.C. 369 00:17:38,160 --> 00:17:41,440 and, best part, he gets written up in the New York Times. 370 00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:45,680 - Shannon's Master's thesis 371 00:17:45,680 --> 00:17:45,720 is his first fundamental leap of insight. - Shannon's Master's thesis 372 00:17:45,720 --> 00:17:50,200 is his first fundamental leap of insight. 373 00:17:50,200 --> 00:17:53,200 George Boole came up with laws of thought, 374 00:17:54,360 --> 00:17:55,920 and they were nice and beautiful, 375 00:17:55,920 --> 00:18:00,120 but Shannon was looking at electromechanical switches, 376 00:18:01,440 --> 00:18:03,720 and what is the connection between laws 377 00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:06,160 of thought and switches? 378 00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:09,760 (clinking) 379 00:18:09,760 --> 00:18:12,480 Well, Shannon realized they are the same thing. 380 00:18:13,400 --> 00:18:15,560 (clinking) 381 00:18:20,440 --> 00:18:22,040 And that was just mind-boggling, 382 00:18:22,040 --> 00:18:25,320 because if the laws of thought could be implemented 383 00:18:25,320 --> 00:18:25,360 in switches then it's not outlandish because if the laws of thought could be implemented 384 00:18:25,360 --> 00:18:30,120 in switches then it's not outlandish 385 00:18:31,240 --> 00:18:33,880 to surmise that at some point machines could think. 386 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:38,480 (gentle instrumental music) 387 00:18:40,200 --> 00:18:41,400 - No, no, not that way. 388 00:18:42,840 --> 00:18:45,520 Back up, back up a little bit. 389 00:18:45,520 --> 00:18:45,560 Theseus would've figured this out already. Back up, back up a little bit. 390 00:18:45,560 --> 00:18:47,880 Theseus would've figured this out already. 391 00:18:47,880 --> 00:18:50,280 - I've heard people say that your Master's thesis 392 00:18:50,280 --> 00:18:54,200 was the most important Master's thesis of the century. 393 00:18:54,200 --> 00:18:54,240 Did you have a eureka moment? was the most important Master's thesis of the century. 394 00:18:54,240 --> 00:18:57,000 Did you have a eureka moment? 395 00:18:57,000 --> 00:19:00,400 - (chuckles) I might have, if I'd known how to spell it. 396 00:19:01,840 --> 00:19:04,720 I had a lot of fun figuring that thing out. 397 00:19:06,840 --> 00:19:07,880 I had a great time. 398 00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:11,720 (gentle instrumental music) 399 00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:14,840 - I was going to Radcliffe, the girls' part of Harvard, 400 00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:19,000 and I had two friends who said, "Oh, Norma, come with us. 401 00:19:20,720 --> 00:19:23,600 "We know some nice guys over at MIT." 402 00:19:24,560 --> 00:19:27,720 I said, "Okay," and we went. 403 00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:35,240 And it was a living room with three bedrooms off it. 404 00:19:35,240 --> 00:19:39,200 Now, two of the guys who lived there came out 405 00:19:39,200 --> 00:19:39,240 and talked to my friends, and the door was open Now, two of the guys who lived there came out 406 00:19:39,240 --> 00:19:44,040 and talked to my friends, and the door was open 407 00:19:44,440 --> 00:19:47,120 to the third bedroom. 408 00:19:47,120 --> 00:19:50,160 (cheerful jazz music) 409 00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:59,080 And I could see someone in it not coming forth, 410 00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:03,080 but what came forth from there was Bix Beiderbecke. 411 00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:08,440 (cheerful jazz music) 412 00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:10,520 So, I walked over that way 413 00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:21,040 and said, "Why don't you come out?" 414 00:20:21,280 --> 00:20:24,080 And he came just sort of halfway out. 415 00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:27,120 (cheerful jazz music) 416 00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:45,040 And he said, "Why don't you come in?" 417 00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:45,080 (cheerful jazz music) And he said, "Why don't you come in?" 418 00:20:45,080 --> 00:20:48,120 (cheerful jazz music) 419 00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:09,440 He was so funny and charming, and delicious and cute, 420 00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:14,640 and saw things, I mean, his comments 421 00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:18,400 about things were like an artist. 422 00:21:20,120 --> 00:21:23,520 He didn't sound like a scientist, not at all. 423 00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:28,520 He liked poetry, and he liked E.E. Cummings. 424 00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:34,040 He wrote a poem to my bosom and I tore it up. 425 00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:40,720 Yes, I'm ashamed and unhappy that I did, but there you are. 426 00:21:42,360 --> 00:21:44,120 (gentle guitar music) 427 00:21:44,120 --> 00:21:46,280 He wanted to learn to fly, and he did. 428 00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:52,040 He had just done his one plus one equals one, 429 00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:57,880 it was his Master's thesis, and he had to prepare French 430 00:21:58,080 --> 00:22:00,440 to get his PhD. 431 00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:03,960 (gentle instrumental music) 432 00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:10,560 And I had to teach him enough French to pass the doctorate. 433 00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:14,080 (gentle instrumental music) 434 00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:29,360 I love it that he wasn't that good at that. 435 00:22:29,360 --> 00:22:29,400 (big band music) I love it that he wasn't that good at that. 436 00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:32,040 (big band music) 437 00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:39,400 - "Dear Dr. Bush, I did not, 438 00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:44,080 "as you may have anticipated, marry a lady scientist, 439 00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:45,920 "but rather a writer. 440 00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:47,560 "She was helping me with my French 441 00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:51,320 "and apparently it ripened into something more than French." 442 00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:53,960 (big band music) 443 00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:02,400 - So, you turned to biology for your PhD? 444 00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:03,680 (Claude laughs) 445 00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:04,560 - Vann Bush. 446 00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:10,960 Vann liked how I used my queer algebra so much, 447 00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:14,360 that's what he called it, that he suggested I try 448 00:23:14,360 --> 00:23:15,720 to apply it to genetics. 449 00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:18,920 I didn't know anything about genetics. 450 00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:22,360 This was in 1940, before Watson 451 00:23:22,360 --> 00:23:24,760 and Crick had even figured out DNA structure. 452 00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:30,040 But, you know, DNA might be 453 00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:33,040 the ultimate information storage device. 454 00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:40,160 So, I read all the introductory genetic text books 455 00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:43,120 that I could find, and what I discovered was 456 00:23:43,120 --> 00:23:46,720 that you could represent different genetic possibilities 457 00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:48,960 mathematically in matrices. 458 00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:54,000 And then you could just use matrix algebra 459 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:56,640 to make predictions of how traits were passed on 460 00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:56,680 through generations. to make predictions of how traits were passed on 461 00:23:56,680 --> 00:23:57,800 through generations. 462 00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:04,120 But I don't think the biologists knew what to make of it. 463 00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:07,320 Maybe it was too far out for them. 464 00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:13,240 - He'd got a national research fellowship in mathematics 465 00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:17,560 to the Institute for Advanced Study in June 1940, 466 00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:19,680 and that's when we moved to Princeton. 467 00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:23,200 (gentle instrumental music) 468 00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:27,360 Claude liked my taste. 469 00:24:27,360 --> 00:24:32,160 What he liked particularly was a painting that I loved, 470 00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:38,040 the Seurat, Dimanche a la Grande Jatte, Sunday in the Park. 471 00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:43,760 He liked the timelessness of it. 472 00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:48,320 (intense instrumental music) 473 00:24:57,520 --> 00:24:58,880 I looked at that a million times 474 00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:03,040 and I didn't think it was a painting about time, but he did. 475 00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:08,000 - I met Einstein, Gödel, von Neumann, 476 00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:11,440 but you've got to get the picture right, Michelle, 477 00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:15,280 I said I met them but they probably wouldn't say they met me 478 00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:16,600 because they wouldn't remember. 479 00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:19,560 But I remember being very impressed 480 00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:22,000 when I met Einstein, for example. 481 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:22,040 He always walked to work, when I met Einstein, for example. 482 00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:24,040 He always walked to work, 483 00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:26,160 and when I drove by I'd wave at him. 484 00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:29,920 I don't think he had any idea who I was, 485 00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:33,920 but he probably thought I was some kind of weirdo. 486 00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:36,720 - Did you try to talk to them about your ideas, 487 00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:40,840 about information and... 488 00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:43,520 Dr. Shannon? 489 00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:49,280 - Oh, I... 490 00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:53,600 I had a couple of good conversations with Hermann Weyl, 491 00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:53,640 who was my supervisor, about the revolutions taking place I had a couple of good conversations with Hermann Weyl, 492 00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:58,440 who was my supervisor, about the revolutions taking place 493 00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:02,040 in science: quantum mechanics, 494 00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:04,320 the Heisenberg uncertainty principle 495 00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:06,800 saying things couldn't be measured precisely, 496 00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:10,920 Kurt Gödel showing the limitations in mathematics. 497 00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:14,480 But the people at the institute 498 00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:17,640 were very pure mathematics-oriented 499 00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:21,320 and not so interested in more practical things. 500 00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:26,600 (gentle clarinet music) 501 00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:36,520 I didn't run across anyone who was much interested 502 00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:38,760 in the things I was trying to do. 503 00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:44,320 - The last six months in Princeton, 504 00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:46,360 something was going wrong. 505 00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:52,080 When he came home from there, he was unhappy 506 00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:53,920 and he didn't even wanna talk about it. 507 00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:56,960 And it wasn't going well. 508 00:26:56,960 --> 00:27:00,160 (gentle clarinet music) 509 00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:12,880 He stayed home, he didn't wanna go out, 510 00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:16,680 he talked less and less, 511 00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:16,720 he played the clarinet more and more. he talked less and less, 512 00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:18,800 he played the clarinet more and more. 513 00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:25,080 - Was it possibly related to what was going on 514 00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:26,360 in the world? 515 00:27:26,360 --> 00:27:27,840 The build up to the war? 516 00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:29,040 - Not at all. 517 00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:31,400 He didn't wanna know about anything political. 518 00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:35,560 I thought he was just unhappy 519 00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:37,400 with his work at the institute. 520 00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:40,480 - Is that why he left the institute 521 00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:42,040 after two months? 522 00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:42,080 - No. after two months? 523 00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:43,040 - No. 524 00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:43,080 We got there in September - No. 525 00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:45,320 We got there in September 526 00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:45,360 and I was living in Princeton through July. We got there in September 527 00:27:45,360 --> 00:27:49,320 and I was living in Princeton through July. 528 00:27:50,360 --> 00:27:51,160 - But he was only working 529 00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:52,760 at the institute for two months. 530 00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:56,960 - Are you telling me that when I thought he was 531 00:27:56,960 --> 00:27:59,800 at the Institute for Advanced Study he wasn't there? 532 00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:01,440 When I was with him? 533 00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:04,320 You mean he resigned and he didn't tell me? 534 00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:06,880 Was he going somewhere else? 535 00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:09,280 What was he doing? 536 00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:09,320 - He was working What was he doing? 537 00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:10,080 - He was working 538 00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:11,520 for the National Defense Research Committee 539 00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:11,560 through Princeton University. for the National Defense Research Committee 540 00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:12,920 through Princeton University. 541 00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:15,800 - Well, that's interesting. 542 00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:20,080 Listen, something funny was going on 543 00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:23,800 because he looked different, 544 00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:25,720 he was a completely different guy. 545 00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:28,840 Something peculiar was happening. 546 00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:33,920 It was hard living with him. 547 00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:39,040 I said, "You know, I can't live this way, 548 00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:41,520 "and I've got to get a divorce." 549 00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:44,720 (gentle clarinet music) 550 00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:55,920 - Uh. 551 00:28:57,360 --> 00:28:59,600 About halfway through the year at Princeton, 552 00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:02,120 I could smell the... 553 00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:06,080 I could smell the war coming along. 554 00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:11,760 It occurred to me that I would be more useful 555 00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:16,560 and safer working full-time for the war effort. 556 00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:21,440 Safer against the draft, which I didn't exactly fancy. 557 00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:28,800 So, what I did was I resigned my fellowship halfway through, 558 00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:35,720 and I went down and asked if I could get a job at Bell Labs. 559 00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:38,960 (blues music) 560 00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:46,720 ♪ I went to the restaurant monday ♪ 561 00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:49,040 - He played the blues day and night. 562 00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:52,560 Teddy Grace was the singer that he adored. 563 00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:54,120 Oh, I loved her, too. 564 00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:54,160 I still love her. Oh, I loved her, too. 565 00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:55,160 I still love her. 566 00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:59,160 Very sad blues that he played, but beautiful ones. 567 00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:01,880 He had a very big record player. 568 00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:01,920 And you could hear it through the ceiling. He had a very big record player. 569 00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:03,920 And you could hear it through the ceiling. 570 00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:08,520 He played it day and night, that's how I met him. 571 00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:12,640 I said, you know, "Even though I'm up all night, 572 00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:14,960 "a good part of the night, but you keep me up. 573 00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:16,480 "I can't even study. 574 00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:17,840 "It's too noisy." 575 00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:19,280 He said, "Well, I'll move it." 576 00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:23,360 And then he asked me would I go out with him. 577 00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:28,920 He was very good-looking, really striking. 578 00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:32,200 He had this black thing, you know, a curl 579 00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:32,240 that came over his forehead always, He had this black thing, you know, a curl 580 00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:34,040 that came over his forehead always, 581 00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:35,400 that he had to shake off. 582 00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:37,440 He loved jazz. 583 00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:40,160 I mean, it was a passion with him, a real passion. 584 00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:43,520 He said the improvisation, the unpredictability 585 00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:45,800 of it is what he loved about it, he said. 586 00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:51,440 When I asked him, "What are you doing? 587 00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:53,440 "How are you making a living?" 588 00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:55,960 He said, "I work with numbers." 589 00:30:56,800 --> 00:30:58,880 And I thought, "Oh, he's an accountant." 590 00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:02,960 You know, I think it was a suffering time. 591 00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:08,560 I had German measles, and Claude was trying to get them. 592 00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:12,600 He said if he got it then he wouldn't have to go to work, 593 00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:14,600 because he hated the work he was doing. 594 00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:21,520 - Initially they had me working on missile firing systems, 595 00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:25,080 but there was another group at Bell working on systems 596 00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:27,520 to scramble the communications 597 00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:27,560 between Churchill and Roosevelt. to scramble the communications 598 00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:30,440 between Churchill and Roosevelt. 599 00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:31,440 That was the sort of thing 600 00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:34,440 I was interested in, communications. 601 00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:37,080 So, I asked if I could go work with them. 602 00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:39,600 Most of the cryptography group were trying 603 00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:43,360 to figure out how to crack specific messages, 604 00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:46,280 very practical stuff, code breaking things, 605 00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:48,520 like Sherlock Holmes and so forth. 606 00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:48,560 But nobody seemed to be very interested like Sherlock Holmes and so forth. 607 00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:50,440 But nobody seemed to be very interested 608 00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:50,480 in theoretical questions. But nobody seemed to be very interested 609 00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:53,400 in theoretical questions. 610 00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:58,560 Like, how many messages you needed to intercept 611 00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:00,120 before you could get a solution? 612 00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:04,280 Or, could you create a completely unbreakable code? 613 00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:12,000 That was the sort of thing I was more interested 614 00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:12,800 in trying to do. 615 00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:16,480 - Norma had told him to get in analysis, 616 00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:18,480 because he must've been very depressed already 617 00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:19,680 when he was with her. 618 00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:23,240 - I didn't get as much response 619 00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:23,280 to my cryptography work as I expected. - I didn't get as much response 620 00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:26,080 to my cryptography work as I expected. 621 00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:28,000 I guess it wasn't very useful, 622 00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:30,680 practically speaking, to cryptographers. 623 00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:30,720 But after the war though, I was called in as a consultant practically speaking, to cryptographers. 624 00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:33,800 But after the war though, I was called in as a consultant 625 00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:33,840 to the National Security Agency in Washington. But after the war though, I was called in as a consultant 626 00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:36,320 to the National Security Agency in Washington. 627 00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:37,560 So, I guess someone... 628 00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:39,800 I probably better... 629 00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:42,320 Even though this was a long time ago, 630 00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:45,760 I guess I shouldn't tell you about that. 631 00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:49,760 - I asked him, "How is it going in analysis?" 632 00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:53,880 He said, "The guy's finally learned something 633 00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:53,920 "about mathematics and how to think properly." He said, "The guy's finally learned something 634 00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:56,760 "about mathematics and how to think properly." 635 00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:02,680 He said that what had hurt him so in life was 636 00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:06,240 that there was certainty until a certain time, 637 00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:10,880 that once he knew a thing to be true it would remain true, 638 00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:12,280 and everything had changed. 639 00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:15,680 Everything became sort of relative, he said. 640 00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:21,240 He had believed in black and white truth, absolute truth. 641 00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:24,680 And those had gone for him. 642 00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:26,560 He had to adjust to that. 643 00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:30,280 (gentle instrumental music) 644 00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:30,320 "With love and kisses and curses and hisses. (gentle instrumental music) 645 00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:34,320 "With love and kisses and curses and hisses. 646 00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:37,000 "Claude, 1944." 647 00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:38,600 That was a long time ago. 648 00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:42,120 (gentle instrumental music) 649 00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:47,080 It doesn't seem to be that long ago, really not. 650 00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:51,480 I didn't know how much I cared for him, really. 651 00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:53,960 I should've known. 652 00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:58,280 That secret life, I think, really got between us. 653 00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:04,320 - I found this 1945 cryptography report you wrote. 654 00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:09,840 And it uses the words "information theory". 655 00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:09,880 And I think that that's the first time that phrase appeared, And it uses the words "information theory". 656 00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:12,360 And I think that that's the first time that phrase appeared, 657 00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:15,560 those two words together in print, anywhere. 658 00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:17,560 - Is that so? 659 00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:18,720 - Yes. 660 00:34:18,720 --> 00:34:19,520 See? 661 00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:24,480 And I'm wondering, your monumental paper 662 00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:27,680 on information theory didn't come out until 1948. 663 00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:29,120 - Hmm. 664 00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:30,400 - So is it accurate to say 665 00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:33,680 that information theory came out of your cryptography work? 666 00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:35,560 - No. 667 00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:35,600 Look, Michelle, you're looking for a simple... - No. 668 00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:37,920 Look, Michelle, you're looking for a simple... 669 00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:41,720 It would be more accurate to say they were going on 670 00:34:41,720 --> 00:34:41,760 at the same time. It would be more accurate to say they were going on 671 00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:43,280 at the same time. 672 00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:46,680 In my mind, they're connected. 673 00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:49,920 How you make something unintelligible 674 00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:52,680 or how you make it intelligible are two sides 675 00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:54,120 of the same coin. 676 00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:55,720 - But officially you were just working 677 00:34:55,720 --> 00:34:57,360 on cryptography, right? 678 00:34:57,360 --> 00:34:57,400 - Are you looking to work on cryptography, right? 679 00:34:57,400 --> 00:34:58,720 - Are you looking to work 680 00:34:58,720 --> 00:35:00,680 for the district attorney's office? (chuckles) 681 00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:00,720 - No. for the district attorney's office? (chuckles) 682 00:35:00,720 --> 00:35:01,480 - No. 683 00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:02,360 No, I'm just-- 684 00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:02,400 - The cryptography work was just a way No, I'm just-- 685 00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:04,720 - The cryptography work was just a way 686 00:35:04,720 --> 00:35:07,800 of legitimizing the other work I was doing 687 00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:11,520 at home outside office hours, so to speak, 688 00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:16,160 to make it look like I was working on decent, 689 00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:20,200 worthwhile things, if you know what I mean. 690 00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:20,240 - Did you feel like you had worthwhile things, if you know what I mean. 691 00:35:20,240 --> 00:35:21,120 - Did you feel like you had 692 00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:23,000 to hide the other work? 693 00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:23,040 - Not hide exactly, but I didn't know to hide the other work? 694 00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:27,320 - Not hide exactly, but I didn't know 695 00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:28,880 if it would all work out. 696 00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:34,200 - Shannon works on his universal theory 697 00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:37,400 of communication for 10 years. 698 00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:41,280 He works on it through a failed marriage 699 00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:44,320 and through this war work that he really dislikes. 700 00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:47,440 He works at nights, he works on the weekends, 701 00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:50,240 he collects snatches of time here and there, 702 00:35:50,240 --> 00:35:50,280 and he works alone. he collects snatches of time here and there, 703 00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:52,000 and he works alone. 704 00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:52,040 He doesn't tell anyone what he's working on. and he works alone. 705 00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:54,320 He doesn't tell anyone what he's working on. 706 00:35:57,680 --> 00:35:59,640 What he realizes is that in order 707 00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:03,080 to understand communication, he needs a new understanding 708 00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:04,840 of the thing you wanna communicate. 709 00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:09,840 He needs a radical new definition of information. 710 00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:16,960 - Information, which they called intelligence at the time, 711 00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:19,160 was a slippery concept. 712 00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:19,200 I wanted to try to find a way to treat information was a slippery concept. 713 00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:22,280 I wanted to try to find a way to treat information 714 00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:26,200 like a physical thing, like energy that you could measure. 715 00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:29,720 (gentle instrumental music) 716 00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:37,320 What I realized was, to measure information, 717 00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:41,480 you have to look at it without regard to meaning. 718 00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:44,400 That upsets a lot of people. 719 00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:44,440 That content is irrelevant. That upsets a lot of people. 720 00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:47,560 That content is irrelevant. 721 00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:51,200 (intense instrumental music) 722 00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:54,480 The point of sending a message is to remove uncertainty, 723 00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:57,800 something you didn't know but now you know. 724 00:36:57,800 --> 00:36:59,320 Do you have a coin, Michelle? 725 00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:00,880 - A coin? - Yes, a coin. 726 00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:02,560 I'd get up to get one myself, 727 00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:05,520 but you'll just tell me to sit back down. (chuckles) 728 00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:06,920 - Um... 729 00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:08,520 Yes. 730 00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:09,960 - There. 731 00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:12,240 (Claude clears throat) 732 00:37:12,240 --> 00:37:13,080 Heads or tails? 733 00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:14,080 - Tails. 734 00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:14,880 - Heads. 735 00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:18,000 A coin toss is an example of the simplest form 736 00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:18,040 of information to communicate, a binary choice. A coin toss is an example of the simplest form 737 00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:22,600 of information to communicate, a binary choice. 738 00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:27,400 True or false, heads or tails, a one or a zero. 739 00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:29,800 A bit. 740 00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:33,320 (gentle instrumental music) 741 00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:37,360 - Shannon's big idea number one: 742 00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:40,720 convert all information to bits. 743 00:37:40,720 --> 00:37:42,200 (coin clinking) 744 00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:45,720 (gentle instrumental music) 745 00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:51,480 (glass crashing) 746 00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:55,000 (gentle instrumental music) 747 00:37:57,560 --> 00:38:01,120 All information can be represented as zeros and ones. 748 00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:08,560 Pictures, music, (upbeat music) 749 00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:13,360 video, all information can be treated the same way. 750 00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:16,880 (gentle instrumental music) 751 00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:22,840 Which means the problem of communication reduces 752 00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:27,120 to just two things: how do I convert things 753 00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:28,120 to zeros and ones, 754 00:38:31,720 --> 00:38:34,280 and how do I make sure that those zeros 755 00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:36,640 and ones get through accurately? 756 00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:41,600 - Is your coin legal? 757 00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:41,640 - Sorry? - Is your coin legal? 758 00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:42,920 - Sorry? 759 00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:44,760 - Your coin's not counterfeit, is it? 760 00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:46,840 - Not that I know of. 761 00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:46,880 - So, if I toss it 100 times, - Not that I know of. 762 00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:50,120 - So, if I toss it 100 times, 763 00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:52,760 each time I toss it there's an equal probability 764 00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:55,600 that it's a head or tail. 765 00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:59,840 I'd need 100 bits of information, one for each toss, 766 00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:01,560 to communicate the results. 767 00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:01,600 Now, if it turns out you're some sort of a con woman to communicate the results. 768 00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:06,360 Now, if it turns out you're some sort of a con woman 769 00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:09,600 and you thought it might be fun to pull the wool 770 00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:12,760 over some gullible old man's eyes... 771 00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:15,200 Heads, right? 772 00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:17,560 - It's heads on both sides. 773 00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:20,080 - Yeah, I didn't need any information from you 774 00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:21,760 to know the result. 775 00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:24,280 If something's completely predictable, 776 00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:24,320 there's zero information. If something's completely predictable, 777 00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:26,280 there's zero information. 778 00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:29,040 But, on the other hand, if something's completely random, 779 00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:31,480 you need the information about everything. 780 00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:32,600 It's counterintuitive, 781 00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:32,640 but gibberish contains more information It's counterintuitive, 782 00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:36,360 but gibberish contains more information 783 00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:37,760 than great literature. 784 00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:39,400 - Not if it's "Finnegans Wake." 785 00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:39,440 (Claude laughs) - Not if it's "Finnegans Wake." 786 00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:40,360 (Claude laughs) 787 00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:43,720 - No, James Joyce is unpredictable. (chuckles) 788 00:39:43,720 --> 00:39:45,440 - Or the Jabberwocky poem, 789 00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:47,440 "Twas brillig, and the slithy toves. 790 00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:49,560 "Did gyre and gimble in the wabe." 791 00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:50,480 (Claude laughs) 792 00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:53,200 - You could barely guess the next letter of that. 793 00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:58,000 But normal English though, I calculated, 794 00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:00,920 is over 50% redundant. 795 00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:06,000 You know if certain words follow each other, 796 00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:06,040 there's grammar rules. You know if certain words follow each other, 797 00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:07,160 there's grammar rules. 798 00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:09,560 When you learn a language, 799 00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:11,920 you inherently know the statistics, 800 00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:14,360 that's why you can drop letters and even words 801 00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:16,080 and still understand the message. 802 00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:18,840 - Looking at the redundancy 803 00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:22,360 in English gives Shannon his big thought number two: 804 00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:24,960 compress your information. 805 00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:28,480 (gentle instrumental music) 806 00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:35,240 Eliminate the redundancy. 807 00:40:37,240 --> 00:40:39,240 Just send what you can't predict. 808 00:40:39,240 --> 00:40:42,760 (gentle instrumental music) 809 00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:45,760 And then he asked the question 810 00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:48,480 that nobody had really thought of before, 811 00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:51,920 is there a minimum size, a minimum number of bits 812 00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:54,280 that I can shrink my information to 813 00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:56,280 and not lose anything essential? 814 00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:58,840 (playful music) 815 00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:03,800 He discovers there is a minimum 816 00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:07,040 and he shows how to calculate it. 817 00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:11,840 His formula is based on the probabilities in the message. 818 00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:17,920 It has a very intriguing form, it's almost identical 819 00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:21,200 to a fundamental quantity in physics called entropy, 820 00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:24,240 which is related to randomness and disorder. 821 00:41:24,240 --> 00:41:28,440 (intense instrumental music) 822 00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:30,520 Shannon calls his quantity entropy, too. 823 00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:34,640 And what he proves is that the entropy 824 00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:34,680 is actually the answer to his question, And what he proves is that the entropy 825 00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:37,800 is actually the answer to his question, 826 00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:40,000 "What's the best I can do?" 827 00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:43,880 The entropy is the absolute minimum size 828 00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:47,640 you can compress your message without any loss. 829 00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:51,080 (intense orchestral music) 830 00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:02,760 Shannon's ideas that you can compress a huge amount 831 00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:05,840 of information into something very small 832 00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:05,880 is what makes The Information Age possible. of information into something very small 833 00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:08,520 is what makes The Information Age possible. 834 00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:15,080 - Do you know what the first message was that was sent 835 00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:15,120 on the Washington-Moscow hotline? - Do you know what the first message was that was sent 836 00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:18,520 on the Washington-Moscow hotline? 837 00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:18,560 - Uh... on the Washington-Moscow hotline? 838 00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:19,600 - Uh... 839 00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:21,040 "Do you hear me?" 840 00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:21,080 (Claude chuckles) "Do you hear me?" 841 00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:21,960 (Claude chuckles) 842 00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:25,400 - "The quick brown fox jumped over the lazy dog's back." 843 00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:28,560 One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, zero. 844 00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:32,440 It uses every letter of the alphabet, 845 00:42:34,240 --> 00:42:36,120 but it isn't the most efficient 846 00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:36,160 because some of the letters are repeated. but it isn't the most efficient 847 00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:39,000 because some of the letters are repeated. 848 00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:40,960 Betty and I had a grand time trying to come up 849 00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:41,000 with the shortest sentence that uses every letter only once. Betty and I had a grand time trying to come up 850 00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:45,640 with the shortest sentence that uses every letter only once. 851 00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:48,280 - We spent a lot of time looking in the dictionary 852 00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:51,720 for words heavy on consonants and light on vowels. 853 00:42:51,720 --> 00:42:53,880 - The hard part is that there's only a few vowels 854 00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:55,960 and every word needs to have one. 855 00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:59,040 Squdgy Fez Blank Jimp Crwth Vox. 856 00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:02,480 (intense orchestral music) 857 00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:10,520 - Shannon's ideas that you should first change everything 858 00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:14,800 to zeros and ones and then compress it is a huge step 859 00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:17,640 towards the universal theory of communication, 860 00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:20,760 but it's not the end of the story, 861 00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:23,520 because you still have to get those zeros 862 00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:23,560 and ones across your channel, because you still have to get those zeros 863 00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:25,160 and ones across your channel, 864 00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:28,720 and the channel has physical limitations, 865 00:43:28,720 --> 00:43:28,760 whether it's a wire or a pipe with water flowing through it. and the channel has physical limitations, 866 00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:33,200 whether it's a wire or a pipe with water flowing through it. 867 00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:37,760 And then, there's always noise, (static) 868 00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:39,680 things like static or interference, 869 00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:43,640 that can mix up or flip the zeros and ones and wipe you out. 870 00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:52,040 Shannon wonders, "Can I calculate for any channel 871 00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:54,800 "a speed limit beyond which you know 872 00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:54,840 "things are gonna fall apart?" "a speed limit beyond which you know 873 00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:56,360 "things are gonna fall apart?" 874 00:43:57,400 --> 00:43:59,480 He comes up with another formula, 875 00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:01,840 it's a theoretical maximum speed, 876 00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:06,000 an information speed limit, like the speed of light. 877 00:44:07,160 --> 00:44:09,160 We call it the Shannon limit. 878 00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:12,840 You can't go faster than the Shannon limit. 879 00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:15,960 If you try, you go off a cliff. 880 00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:19,640 - The idea that there was a speed limit 881 00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:22,400 to information was so out of the blue. 882 00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:25,200 I mean, even just conceptually this was a shock. 883 00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:26,320 It was like when Einstein said 884 00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:27,960 that you couldn't make things go faster 885 00:44:27,960 --> 00:44:29,560 than the speed of light. 886 00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:31,720 But what Shannon showed is if you tried 887 00:44:31,720 --> 00:44:34,920 to get past this limit, above the Shannon limit, 888 00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:37,920 you cannot recover any useful information. 889 00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:40,480 (static) 890 00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:43,880 - Shannon's third big idea, huge idea: 891 00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:47,080 use mathematics to eliminate noise. 892 00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:47,120 This seemed crazy, what does that even mean? use mathematics to eliminate noise. 893 00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:50,320 This seemed crazy, what does that even mean? 894 00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:55,000 He proved that mathematics could eliminate errors 895 00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:57,560 from static and interference. 896 00:44:57,560 --> 00:45:01,200 You could use mathematical codes to overcome noise. 897 00:45:03,560 --> 00:45:06,240 And then, as the icing on the cake, 898 00:45:06,240 --> 00:45:09,400 Shannon claimed this could work right up 899 00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:10,560 to the Shannon limit. 900 00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:13,400 If you could find the right codes, 901 00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:16,680 you could have perfect communication with as little errors 902 00:45:16,680 --> 00:45:20,440 as you wanted, and that was the revolution. 903 00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:21,680 (alarm-clock ringing) 904 00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:23,120 (wrist-watch bleeping) 905 00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:23,160 (telephone ringing) (wrist-watch bleeping) 906 00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:24,400 (telephone ringing) 907 00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:26,160 (cell phone ringing) 908 00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:29,600 (intense orchestral music) 909 00:45:38,680 --> 00:45:42,200 (satellite bleeping) 910 00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:44,480 - Suppose you wanted to use Shannon's ideas 911 00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:48,360 to help with one of the most difficult known problems 912 00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:51,640 in communication: communicating with a spouse. 913 00:45:51,640 --> 00:45:54,160 - One communication scenario I can think of 914 00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:54,200 applying Shannon's ideas to is communication in a marriage, - One communication scenario I can think of 915 00:45:54,200 --> 00:45:58,600 applying Shannon's ideas to is communication in a marriage, 916 00:45:58,600 --> 00:45:58,640 which, as we all know, can be really difficult. applying Shannon's ideas to is communication in a marriage, 917 00:45:58,640 --> 00:46:01,640 which, as we all know, can be really difficult. 918 00:46:01,640 --> 00:46:01,680 - This communication is often prone to serious errors, which, as we all know, can be really difficult. 919 00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:05,080 - This communication is often prone to serious errors, 920 00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:07,560 which sometimes lead to disasters. 921 00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:07,600 - There's all this noise, there's interference, which sometimes lead to disasters. 922 00:46:07,600 --> 00:46:10,280 - There's all this noise, there's interference, 923 00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:12,160 maybe they had a bad day or a good day, 924 00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:13,960 you know, maybe the kids are shouting in the background 925 00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:14,920 or the dog's barking. 926 00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:14,960 And so, how do you convey exactly what you wanna say or the dog's barking. 927 00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:18,400 And so, how do you convey exactly what you wanna say 928 00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:20,440 to your spouse in a way that they understand? 929 00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:23,840 - One way of communicating is repeating your message over 930 00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:23,880 and over again. - One way of communicating is repeating your message over 931 00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:24,800 and over again. 932 00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:28,200 - And that probably will eventually get through, 933 00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:32,120 but your partner may get annoyed with you. 934 00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:34,960 - And another way is to shout louder. 935 00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:38,640 - But that could also be misconstrued. 936 00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:38,680 - So, what Shannon really said is - But that could also be misconstrued. 937 00:46:38,680 --> 00:46:40,160 - So, what Shannon really said is 938 00:46:40,160 --> 00:46:42,800 that nagging, you know, doesn't really work, 939 00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:45,400 or speaking louder doesn't work either. 940 00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:45,440 - It's how you pick your words. or speaking louder doesn't work either. 941 00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:47,920 - It's how you pick your words. 942 00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:50,280 - So, we should say things perhaps many times 943 00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:53,160 but in different fashions, in different presentations. 944 00:46:53,160 --> 00:46:53,200 We should code them well, but in different fashions, in different presentations. 945 00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:54,760 We should code them well, 946 00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:54,800 and at the end of our communication We should code them well, 947 00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:57,160 and at the end of our communication 948 00:46:57,160 --> 00:46:59,760 we should always add an error-correcting code, 949 00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:01,760 which in this case could be something like, 950 00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:02,960 "But I love you." 951 00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:07,120 (bomb explodes) 952 00:47:07,120 --> 00:47:07,160 - When Shannon's paper came out, it was like a bombshell. (bomb explodes) 953 00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:11,080 - When Shannon's paper came out, it was like a bombshell. 954 00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:14,960 To be able to communicate with as few errors as you wanted, 955 00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:16,280 people couldn't believe it. 956 00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:20,120 Some people couldn't understand the math. 957 00:47:22,160 --> 00:47:24,920 Engineers thought it was so far removed 958 00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:24,960 from anything they could build, Engineers thought it was so far removed 959 00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:26,800 from anything they could build, 960 00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:31,080 they just basically thought it was science fiction. 961 00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:35,160 - But there were some people who became big champions 962 00:47:35,160 --> 00:47:35,200 and saw the potential in what Shannon had done. - But there were some people who became big champions 963 00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:38,000 and saw the potential in what Shannon had done. 964 00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:41,680 They became totally enamored of this new field, information. 965 00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:44,400 So, he's placed on a list of the leading scientists 966 00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:44,440 of the day, alongside Richard Feynman and Watson and Crick. So, he's placed on a list of the leading scientists 967 00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:48,680 of the day, alongside Richard Feynman and Watson and Crick. 968 00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:52,520 He's given write ups in Time Magazine and Fortune Magazine 969 00:47:52,520 --> 00:47:53,960 and Scientific American. 970 00:47:53,960 --> 00:47:54,000 And he's even given a spread in Vogue Magazine and Scientific American. 971 00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:56,920 And he's even given a spread in Vogue Magazine 972 00:47:56,920 --> 00:47:59,400 with a photo shoot from Henri Cartier-Bresson, 973 00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:00,920 the renowned photographer, 974 00:48:00,920 --> 00:48:04,520 whose other photo shoots included Mahatma Gandhi, 975 00:48:04,520 --> 00:48:08,080 Chairman Mao's funeral, Queen Elizabeth's coronation, 976 00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:11,200 and Claude Shannon at his home in Massachusetts. 977 00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:14,720 - When Shannon's paper came out in 1948, 978 00:48:14,720 --> 00:48:18,640 people embraced it far beyond what Shannon ever envisioned 979 00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:19,720 it would be embraced as, 980 00:48:19,720 --> 00:48:22,680 which was a mathematical theory of information. 981 00:48:22,680 --> 00:48:24,880 So, it started being applied to philosophy 982 00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:24,920 and pretty much almost every field embraced it, So, it started being applied to philosophy 983 00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:27,280 and pretty much almost every field embraced it, 984 00:48:27,280 --> 00:48:29,000 "Oh, we're gonna use this mathematical theory 985 00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:30,920 "of information in what we do." 986 00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:33,480 And it got a little bit out of control, 987 00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:36,920 and it was being applied in ways that didn't make any sense. 988 00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:41,480 - Just a bit more. 989 00:48:42,680 --> 00:48:45,600 - I found this wonderful T-shirt 990 00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:47,480 (Claude laughs) 991 00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:49,040 in the London airport. 992 00:48:49,040 --> 00:48:49,840 (Michelle chuckles) 993 00:48:49,840 --> 00:48:51,640 - Were you famous when your paper came out? 994 00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:52,520 - Not too much. 995 00:48:52,520 --> 00:48:53,800 - He wrote a paper telling them 996 00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:55,400 to get off the bandwagon. 997 00:48:55,400 --> 00:48:57,000 - I was worried that there was still a lot 998 00:48:57,000 --> 00:49:00,840 of hard slugging left to do in our own professional house. 999 00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:04,000 - I read that a major American mathematician 1000 00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:05,080 criticized your paper 1001 00:49:05,080 --> 00:49:08,240 for not being mathematically rigorous enough. 1002 00:49:08,240 --> 00:49:11,360 - Maybe it needed people a little brighter to understand it. 1003 00:49:11,360 --> 00:49:14,160 - Russian mathematicians got it right away. 1004 00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:15,520 - Yes, they did. 1005 00:49:15,520 --> 00:49:20,000 - But the codes that you said had to exist, 1006 00:49:20,840 --> 00:49:23,080 you didn't show how to get them. 1007 00:49:23,080 --> 00:49:27,880 And now it's 35 or so years later and all your ideas 1008 00:49:28,120 --> 00:49:32,120 about converting everything to digital, compressing audio, 1009 00:49:32,120 --> 00:49:33,560 those things are all happening, 1010 00:49:33,560 --> 00:49:38,360 but as far as your fundamental theorem, nobody's been able 1011 00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:41,440 to find codes that get anywhere near the Shannon limit. 1012 00:49:42,600 --> 00:49:44,880 Do you think that... 1013 00:49:44,880 --> 00:49:48,160 Are you worried that you'll be proven right? 1014 00:49:50,440 --> 00:49:55,240 - I knew what I was doing, and it came out exactly right. 1015 00:49:57,200 --> 00:50:00,520 Some people question whether the technology 1016 00:50:00,520 --> 00:50:04,640 will ever be powerful enough to implement it, but 1017 00:50:08,080 --> 00:50:12,920 there's a lot of bright young people trying 1018 00:50:12,920 --> 00:50:14,520 to find those codes. 1019 00:50:14,520 --> 00:50:17,400 (roulette rattling) 1020 00:50:21,480 --> 00:50:23,360 - The first few times I met him, 1021 00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:26,400 he was giving a lecture or something. 1022 00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:30,320 I was very young then, very shy, very immature, 1023 00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:32,040 afraid to go up and talk to him. 1024 00:50:32,840 --> 00:50:34,120 I was working on a problem 1025 00:50:34,120 --> 00:50:35,920 that I thought was very important. 1026 00:50:35,920 --> 00:50:35,960 It was an information theoretic problem. that I thought was very important. 1027 00:50:35,960 --> 00:50:37,800 It was an information theoretic problem. 1028 00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:40,320 I knew he would be interested in it also. 1029 00:50:40,320 --> 00:50:42,920 I started to talk to him about it. 1030 00:50:42,920 --> 00:50:47,440 And suddenly, the problem seemed too complicated for him, 1031 00:50:47,440 --> 00:50:49,000 which surprised me, but he said, 1032 00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:51,000 "Let's simplify it a little bit." 1033 00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:54,360 So we took one piece out, then we took another piece out, 1034 00:50:54,360 --> 00:50:55,720 and another piece out, 1035 00:50:55,720 --> 00:50:57,640 suddenly it was a silly little problem 1036 00:50:58,720 --> 00:51:01,200 and the answer became obvious. 1037 00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:04,400 And then we slowly put the pieces back in 1038 00:51:06,280 --> 00:51:07,600 and the problem was solved. 1039 00:51:08,560 --> 00:51:09,560 How do you do that? 1040 00:51:09,560 --> 00:51:12,760 How do you take pieces out in the right way 1041 00:51:12,760 --> 00:51:15,520 so that when you get done taking them out 1042 00:51:15,520 --> 00:51:17,000 you can solve the problem? 1043 00:51:17,840 --> 00:51:20,160 He would build these little experiments 1044 00:51:20,160 --> 00:51:23,280 and his little experiments would give him some insights 1045 00:51:23,280 --> 00:51:26,000 about whether the general problem could be solved. 1046 00:51:28,120 --> 00:51:28,920 - Hello. 1047 00:51:28,920 --> 00:51:30,840 I'm Claude Shannon, a mathematician here 1048 00:51:30,840 --> 00:51:32,520 at the Bell Telephone Laboratories. 1049 00:51:34,320 --> 00:51:35,120 This is Theseus. 1050 00:51:35,120 --> 00:51:35,160 Theseus is an electrically-controlled mouse. This is Theseus. 1051 00:51:35,160 --> 00:51:38,120 Theseus is an electrically-controlled mouse. 1052 00:51:38,120 --> 00:51:40,520 He has the ability to solve a certain class of problems 1053 00:51:40,520 --> 00:51:43,640 by trial and error means, and then remember the solution. 1054 00:51:43,640 --> 00:51:45,840 In other words, he can learn from experience. 1055 00:51:48,680 --> 00:51:51,280 Like his classical namesake, Theseus has a problem 1056 00:51:51,280 --> 00:51:53,000 with finding his way through a maze. 1057 00:51:55,720 --> 00:52:00,520 The mouse moves by this electromagnet. 1058 00:52:03,400 --> 00:52:06,400 And its brain are these switches, 1059 00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:07,680 just like the switches you'd find 1060 00:52:07,680 --> 00:52:09,600 in a telephone switch board. 1061 00:52:09,600 --> 00:52:12,120 Betty did most of the wiring, by the way. 1062 00:52:12,120 --> 00:52:12,160 I took it over to Bell Labs one day to show them. Betty did most of the wiring, by the way. 1063 00:52:12,160 --> 00:52:15,760 I took it over to Bell Labs one day to show them. 1064 00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:17,800 They liked it very much, they were very impressed. 1065 00:52:17,800 --> 00:52:19,800 They even wanted to use it in a film. 1066 00:52:20,680 --> 00:52:22,640 - When did you build this? 1067 00:52:22,640 --> 00:52:23,480 It must've been one 1068 00:52:23,480 --> 00:52:26,320 of the earliest artificial intelligence devices. 1069 00:52:26,320 --> 00:52:26,360 - Um... of the earliest artificial intelligence devices. 1070 00:52:26,360 --> 00:52:27,120 - Um... 1071 00:52:27,960 --> 00:52:28,760 Uh... 1072 00:52:29,880 --> 00:52:30,680 Betty! 1073 00:52:34,720 --> 00:52:36,360 When did we make Theseus? 1074 00:52:36,360 --> 00:52:36,400 - 1950. - Right. When did we make Theseus? 1075 00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:38,440 - 1950. - Right. 1076 00:52:38,440 --> 00:52:41,720 - He made a little turtle first that would walk 1077 00:52:41,720 --> 00:52:45,440 around the house and bump into things, and back off. 1078 00:52:45,440 --> 00:52:45,480 And then the mouse. around the house and bump into things, and back off. 1079 00:52:45,480 --> 00:52:47,400 And then the mouse. 1080 00:52:47,400 --> 00:52:47,440 - So, you said that you did most And then the mouse. 1081 00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:49,320 - So, you said that you did most 1082 00:52:49,320 --> 00:52:53,440 of your information theory work between 1943 and 1945, 1083 00:52:53,440 --> 00:52:58,200 so why didn't you publish your paper until 1948? 1084 00:52:58,200 --> 00:53:01,120 - Laziness, I guess. 1085 00:53:01,120 --> 00:53:01,160 I have a number of papers that are unpublished, - Laziness, I guess. 1086 00:53:01,160 --> 00:53:03,280 I have a number of papers that are unpublished, 1087 00:53:03,280 --> 00:53:04,200 they're even more tardy than that. 1088 00:53:04,200 --> 00:53:06,280 - Oh, we've got boxes and boxes 1089 00:53:06,280 --> 00:53:08,680 of unfinished papers upstairs. 1090 00:53:08,680 --> 00:53:09,960 Who knows what's in them? 1091 00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:13,240 Maybe we should punish you and make you go through them. 1092 00:53:13,240 --> 00:53:14,400 (Claude laughs) 1093 00:53:14,400 --> 00:53:18,600 - Well, I never liked writing very much. 1094 00:53:18,600 --> 00:53:22,960 I liked ideas, but I was lazy about putting them down 1095 00:53:22,960 --> 00:53:24,640 on paper, which is how you get the acclaim. 1096 00:53:24,640 --> 00:53:25,600 - Hmm. 1097 00:53:25,600 --> 00:53:28,640 After we were married, he would dictate his papers to me 1098 00:53:28,640 --> 00:53:30,520 and I would write them up. 1099 00:53:30,520 --> 00:53:31,320 - You were a mathematician 1100 00:53:31,320 --> 00:53:32,480 at Bell Labs, too, right? 1101 00:53:32,480 --> 00:53:33,680 - I married a computer. 1102 00:53:35,520 --> 00:53:36,880 - My mother was much, much better 1103 00:53:36,880 --> 00:53:39,160 at arithmetic than my father was. 1104 00:53:39,160 --> 00:53:40,880 She went to Douglas College, which is part 1105 00:53:40,880 --> 00:53:42,480 of Rutgers University, 1106 00:53:42,480 --> 00:53:46,000 which was a wonderful opportunity for her. 1107 00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:50,480 She was a math major, did very well, and graduated just 1108 00:53:50,480 --> 00:53:52,040 at the beginning of World War II 1109 00:53:52,920 --> 00:53:56,800 when everybody was looking for math majors. 1110 00:53:56,800 --> 00:53:59,840 And she had several job offers, which was exciting for her. 1111 00:53:59,840 --> 00:54:02,240 She accepted the one at Bell Labs to be, 1112 00:54:02,240 --> 00:54:02,280 what they called, a computer. She accepted the one at Bell Labs to be, 1113 00:54:02,280 --> 00:54:03,920 what they called, a computer. 1114 00:54:03,920 --> 00:54:07,320 Her term is, it was a secretarial pool for math majors. 1115 00:54:07,320 --> 00:54:10,400 So, it was a room full of women who had been math majors 1116 00:54:10,400 --> 00:54:12,560 who would then do the calculating 1117 00:54:12,560 --> 00:54:15,760 for the male mathematicians and engineers. 1118 00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:17,880 After Bell, my mother took up weaving, 1119 00:54:17,880 --> 00:54:17,920 which is very mathematical. After Bell, my mother took up weaving, 1120 00:54:17,920 --> 00:54:19,280 which is very mathematical. 1121 00:54:19,280 --> 00:54:19,320 She became an accomplished weaver which is very mathematical. 1122 00:54:19,320 --> 00:54:20,840 She became an accomplished weaver 1123 00:54:20,840 --> 00:54:23,560 and a pioneer in using computers in hand-weaving. 1124 00:54:23,560 --> 00:54:25,920 My father, of course, had to build her a loom. 1125 00:54:25,920 --> 00:54:25,960 My parents were a great partnership. My father, of course, had to build her a loom. 1126 00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:27,720 My parents were a great partnership. 1127 00:54:27,720 --> 00:54:30,240 They both appreciated each other's intelligence, 1128 00:54:30,240 --> 00:54:32,920 and together they were a great team. 1129 00:54:34,600 --> 00:54:38,880 - But I didn't meet Claude until after the 1948 paper, 1130 00:54:38,880 --> 00:54:42,320 so I couldn't make him write that one quicker. 1131 00:54:42,320 --> 00:54:44,520 (Claude laughs) 1132 00:54:44,520 --> 00:54:45,560 - You have to understand, too, 1133 00:54:45,560 --> 00:54:49,080 that during the war this wasn't a priority, this work. 1134 00:54:50,360 --> 00:54:53,600 And I didn't think in the early stages 1135 00:54:53,600 --> 00:54:53,640 it would have such an impact. And I didn't think in the early stages 1136 00:54:53,640 --> 00:54:55,000 it would have such an impact. 1137 00:54:55,800 --> 00:54:59,600 (intense instrumental music) 1138 00:54:59,600 --> 00:54:59,640 - One of the most beautiful things about Shannon's paper is (intense instrumental music) 1139 00:54:59,640 --> 00:55:02,520 - One of the most beautiful things about Shannon's paper is 1140 00:55:02,520 --> 00:55:02,560 that he reduced the general problem of communication - One of the most beautiful things about Shannon's paper is 1141 00:55:02,560 --> 00:55:06,200 that he reduced the general problem of communication 1142 00:55:06,200 --> 00:55:08,920 to just two numbers: the minimum size 1143 00:55:08,920 --> 00:55:08,960 you could compress a message, it's entropy, to just two numbers: the minimum size 1144 00:55:08,960 --> 00:55:12,280 you could compress a message, it's entropy, 1145 00:55:12,280 --> 00:55:15,680 and the maximum rate you could send it without errors, 1146 00:55:15,680 --> 00:55:16,600 the Shannon limit. 1147 00:55:17,480 --> 00:55:19,640 And it just started a race to find ways 1148 00:55:19,640 --> 00:55:20,880 to reach those limits, 1149 00:55:22,440 --> 00:55:25,080 and Bell Labs was at the center of that race. 1150 00:55:27,320 --> 00:55:29,280 It was the top research institute 1151 00:55:29,280 --> 00:55:31,840 in the world for communications. 1152 00:55:31,840 --> 00:55:31,880 They just invented the transistor right down the hall in the world for communications. 1153 00:55:31,880 --> 00:55:34,160 They just invented the transistor right down the hall 1154 00:55:34,160 --> 00:55:36,880 from Shannon's office in 1947, 1155 00:55:36,880 --> 00:55:36,920 the year before his paper came out. from Shannon's office in 1947, 1156 00:55:36,920 --> 00:55:38,960 the year before his paper came out. 1157 00:55:38,960 --> 00:55:42,120 They were geniuses across many fields, 1158 00:55:42,120 --> 00:55:44,640 but even there Shannon stood out. 1159 00:55:44,640 --> 00:55:48,160 (gentle instrumental music) 1160 00:55:49,520 --> 00:55:51,760 - I would call it the grand puzzle, 1161 00:55:51,760 --> 00:55:54,240 that's what I call it, the Shannon puzzle. 1162 00:55:55,600 --> 00:55:58,200 All of this great stuff where he showed 1163 00:55:58,200 --> 00:56:01,720 that communicating information is possible, 1164 00:56:02,600 --> 00:56:04,880 he proved it mathematically, 1165 00:56:04,880 --> 00:56:09,280 but he never told anyone how to actually do it. 1166 00:56:09,280 --> 00:56:10,800 So, that is the puzzle. 1167 00:56:10,800 --> 00:56:12,040 It's tantalizing. 1168 00:56:12,960 --> 00:56:16,280 You know that those codes exist, 1169 00:56:16,280 --> 00:56:16,320 but Shannon gave really almost no clue how to go You know that those codes exist, 1170 00:56:16,320 --> 00:56:21,080 but Shannon gave really almost no clue how to go 1171 00:56:22,120 --> 00:56:23,320 about finding them. 1172 00:56:26,920 --> 00:56:27,720 - Of course, that only means 1173 00:56:27,720 --> 00:56:27,760 that Theseus can solve any problem that can be solved. - Of course, that only means 1174 00:56:27,760 --> 00:56:31,480 that Theseus can solve any problem that can be solved. 1175 00:56:31,480 --> 00:56:34,280 Like the rest of us, he occasionally finds himself 1176 00:56:34,280 --> 00:56:36,280 in a situation something like this. 1177 00:56:36,280 --> 00:56:39,880 (intense instrumental music) 1178 00:56:48,560 --> 00:56:50,920 - Why did you decide to leave Bell Labs 1179 00:56:50,920 --> 00:56:53,120 and come to MIT? 1180 00:56:53,120 --> 00:56:54,080 (Claude sighs) 1181 00:56:54,080 --> 00:56:56,640 - They gave me a lot of freedom at Bell, 1182 00:56:56,640 --> 00:56:56,680 but I started to feel a little stale. - They gave me a lot of freedom at Bell, 1183 00:56:56,680 --> 00:57:01,360 but I started to feel a little stale. 1184 00:57:02,280 --> 00:57:05,440 I also always felt that the freedom 1185 00:57:05,440 --> 00:57:09,880 I took there was something of a special favor. 1186 00:57:12,040 --> 00:57:13,840 I thought at MIT... 1187 00:57:14,920 --> 00:57:19,720 Well, the freedom in the work hours that I took 1188 00:57:21,680 --> 00:57:24,160 might be a little less unusual. 1189 00:57:25,040 --> 00:57:29,400 (intense instrumental music) 1190 00:57:29,400 --> 00:57:32,040 - In the mid '50s, MIT is a powerhouse 1191 00:57:32,040 --> 00:57:33,600 in technology in general, 1192 00:57:33,600 --> 00:57:35,640 and especially in information theory. 1193 00:57:36,920 --> 00:57:41,520 They make a huge effort to recruit Shannon and they get him. 1194 00:57:41,520 --> 00:57:44,120 And people expect he's gonna be the leader 1195 00:57:44,120 --> 00:57:47,040 in delivering the promise of his 1948 paper. 1196 00:57:48,480 --> 00:57:49,880 He's not. 1197 00:57:49,880 --> 00:57:53,240 He writes some important extensions of his work, 1198 00:57:53,240 --> 00:57:55,560 but he starts coming to campus less and less. 1199 00:57:55,560 --> 00:57:58,120 And, in fact, at a certain point 1200 00:57:58,120 --> 00:57:59,640 he's coming in so infrequently 1201 00:57:59,640 --> 00:58:02,240 they actually put two graduate students in his office. 1202 00:58:03,480 --> 00:58:07,000 And people are having trouble finding the codes he said had 1203 00:58:07,000 --> 00:58:11,000 to exist, so there begins to be some skepticism 1204 00:58:11,000 --> 00:58:12,360 about an information theory. 1205 00:58:13,320 --> 00:58:15,960 And everybody's wondering, "Where's Claude Shannon?" 1206 00:58:20,560 --> 00:58:23,680 (cheerful piano music) 1207 00:58:28,320 --> 00:58:30,280 - When I was quite young, he would dress up 1208 00:58:30,280 --> 00:58:32,720 and go to work the way other people did. 1209 00:58:33,720 --> 00:58:36,800 And then, at some point that diminished 1210 00:58:36,800 --> 00:58:38,400 and he was home more often. 1211 00:58:39,440 --> 00:58:40,400 At some point my mother explained 1212 00:58:40,400 --> 00:58:42,760 that he had taken a leave from MIT. 1213 00:58:42,760 --> 00:58:47,200 After he sort of moved on from the more theoretical 1214 00:58:47,200 --> 00:58:48,640 and academic work that he did, 1215 00:58:48,640 --> 00:58:51,280 and more into things like unicycling and juggling, 1216 00:58:51,280 --> 00:58:53,560 many people would consider that he wasn't working anymore, 1217 00:58:53,560 --> 00:58:56,200 but I still think of that as his work. 1218 00:58:56,200 --> 00:58:57,880 My dad got interested in building all kinds 1219 00:58:57,880 --> 00:59:00,880 of different unicycles, very small wheels, 1220 00:59:00,880 --> 00:59:04,920 very large wheels, very tall, short, with pedals, 1221 00:59:04,920 --> 00:59:07,640 without pedals, with seat, without seat. 1222 00:59:07,640 --> 00:59:09,520 And we tried to ride them all. 1223 00:59:09,520 --> 00:59:10,720 He had an interest in unicycles 1224 00:59:10,720 --> 00:59:12,080 because my mother bought him one, 1225 00:59:12,080 --> 00:59:16,240 not so easy to come by back in maybe 1950 or '51. 1226 00:59:16,240 --> 00:59:18,120 It was sort of a running joke when I was a child 1227 00:59:18,120 --> 00:59:20,600 about how if I wasn't doing too well in school 1228 00:59:20,600 --> 00:59:20,640 I could always run off and join the circus, about how if I wasn't doing too well in school 1229 00:59:20,640 --> 00:59:22,200 I could always run off and join the circus, 1230 00:59:22,200 --> 00:59:23,920 and my parents would love that. 1231 00:59:23,920 --> 00:59:27,000 (cheerful piano music) 1232 00:59:27,000 --> 00:59:28,800 Before I was born he knew how to juggle, 1233 00:59:28,800 --> 00:59:28,840 and he taught me how to juggle when I was maybe eight Before I was born he knew how to juggle, 1234 00:59:28,840 --> 00:59:30,880 and he taught me how to juggle when I was maybe eight 1235 00:59:30,880 --> 00:59:30,920 or nine years old. and he taught me how to juggle when I was maybe eight 1236 00:59:30,920 --> 00:59:32,280 or nine years old. 1237 00:59:32,280 --> 00:59:34,840 He also started trying to build machines to juggle. 1238 00:59:34,840 --> 00:59:36,880 - Juggling relates to patterns. 1239 00:59:36,880 --> 00:59:40,840 There's a topology and a combinatorial aspect. 1240 00:59:40,840 --> 00:59:40,880 I wrote a paper for Scientific American. There's a topology and a combinatorial aspect. 1241 00:59:40,880 --> 00:59:43,400 I wrote a paper for Scientific American. 1242 00:59:43,400 --> 00:59:43,440 (cheerful piano music) (toy rattling) I wrote a paper for Scientific American. 1243 00:59:43,440 --> 00:59:47,280 (cheerful piano music) (toy rattling) 1244 00:59:47,280 --> 00:59:49,560 Oh, come on, Mr. Fields. 1245 00:59:49,560 --> 00:59:53,160 (cheerful piano music) (toy rattling) 1246 00:59:53,160 --> 00:59:54,360 Ah. 1247 00:59:54,360 --> 00:59:56,400 I came up with a formula for juggling 1248 00:59:57,280 --> 00:59:59,520 that relates the number of balls you're juggling 1249 00:59:59,520 --> 00:59:59,560 to how long each is in the air versus in the hand. that relates the number of balls you're juggling 1250 00:59:59,560 --> 01:00:02,440 to how long each is in the air versus in the hand. 1251 01:00:03,640 --> 01:00:04,440 - Did you ever think 1252 01:00:04,440 --> 01:00:07,080 about commercializing your inventions? 1253 01:00:07,080 --> 01:00:10,520 - Oh, fiddle, we don't believe in commercializing fun. 1254 01:00:10,520 --> 01:00:11,320 (Claude chuckles) 1255 01:00:11,320 --> 01:00:11,360 - You didn't worry (Claude chuckles) 1256 01:00:11,360 --> 01:00:12,120 - You didn't worry 1257 01:00:12,120 --> 01:00:13,440 that they might not be practical? 1258 01:00:13,440 --> 01:00:13,480 - Well, that'd be the last thing. that they might not be practical? 1259 01:00:13,480 --> 01:00:15,800 - Well, that'd be the last thing. 1260 01:00:15,800 --> 01:00:19,200 I built a lot of useless gadgets 1261 01:00:19,200 --> 01:00:20,800 just because they're fun to make. 1262 01:00:22,480 --> 01:00:25,440 I'm more interested in, is this an interesting problem? 1263 01:00:25,440 --> 01:00:27,600 Is it an elegant problem? 1264 01:00:27,600 --> 01:00:27,640 I get a big bang out of proving a theory Is it an elegant problem? 1265 01:00:27,640 --> 01:00:30,240 I get a big bang out of proving a theory 1266 01:00:30,240 --> 01:00:33,640 or seeing a clever way to do something. 1267 01:00:33,640 --> 01:00:35,400 I make my money in the stock market, 1268 01:00:35,400 --> 01:00:36,520 not by proving theorems. 1269 01:00:36,520 --> 01:00:37,800 - You play the stock market? 1270 01:00:37,800 --> 01:00:39,600 You're interested in making money? 1271 01:00:39,600 --> 01:00:40,440 - Oh, sure. 1272 01:00:40,440 --> 01:00:41,240 Aren't you? 1273 01:00:43,480 --> 01:00:44,720 - Were you ever successful? 1274 01:00:44,720 --> 01:00:46,760 - Beyond reasonable expectations. 1275 01:00:46,760 --> 01:00:47,560 (Claude chuckles) 1276 01:00:47,560 --> 01:00:47,600 - I even did some work on the theory of stocks. (Claude chuckles) 1277 01:00:47,600 --> 01:00:50,760 - I even did some work on the theory of stocks. 1278 01:00:52,040 --> 01:00:54,840 In a certain way it's like channel capacity 1279 01:00:54,840 --> 01:00:56,600 in a noisy channel. 1280 01:00:56,600 --> 01:00:57,480 - You found that you 1281 01:00:57,480 --> 01:01:00,840 could apply information theory to the stock market? 1282 01:01:00,840 --> 01:01:02,920 - Inside information. 1283 01:01:02,920 --> 01:01:05,880 - We had good friends who started good companies. 1284 01:01:05,880 --> 01:01:05,920 - Yeah. - We had good friends who started good companies. 1285 01:01:05,920 --> 01:01:06,880 - Yeah. 1286 01:01:06,880 --> 01:01:10,360 The bottom line is that theories aren't as important 1287 01:01:10,360 --> 01:01:13,440 as products or people. 1288 01:01:13,440 --> 01:01:16,440 (gentle instrumental music) 1289 01:01:16,440 --> 01:01:19,000 - In the '60s and '70s Shannon's ideas began 1290 01:01:19,000 --> 01:01:20,640 to have a lot of impact. 1291 01:01:22,080 --> 01:01:25,160 Computers are shrinking from the size of rooms, 1292 01:01:25,160 --> 01:01:27,680 data is being compressed and stored on drives 1293 01:01:27,680 --> 01:01:27,720 and CDs that could be scratched and still play. data is being compressed and stored on drives 1294 01:01:27,720 --> 01:01:30,160 and CDs that could be scratched and still play. 1295 01:01:31,080 --> 01:01:33,840 The Voyager satellite is sending images billions 1296 01:01:33,840 --> 01:01:35,400 of miles back to Earth. 1297 01:01:36,880 --> 01:01:39,520 But when it comes to finding the codes 1298 01:01:39,520 --> 01:01:42,720 that could get you anywhere near the Shannon limit, 1299 01:01:42,720 --> 01:01:44,320 there's a lot of frustration. 1300 01:01:45,280 --> 01:01:49,280 A lot of very talented people, over decades, 1301 01:01:49,280 --> 01:01:53,600 tried and failed to find the codes he said existed. 1302 01:01:55,520 --> 01:01:57,920 By the 1980s there's a sense 1303 01:01:57,920 --> 01:02:00,760 that maybe we've reached a practical limit, 1304 01:02:00,760 --> 01:02:03,720 a real world boundary you can't get through. 1305 01:02:03,720 --> 01:02:08,520 The Shannon limit is beautiful, an elegant theoretical idea, 1306 01:02:08,680 --> 01:02:10,000 but it's unattainable. 1307 01:02:10,840 --> 01:02:13,440 So people began to lose faith and wonder, 1308 01:02:13,440 --> 01:02:15,760 "Is information theory dead?" 1309 01:02:15,760 --> 01:02:15,800 And they begin to abandon information theory and, "Is information theory dead?" 1310 01:02:15,800 --> 01:02:19,480 And they begin to abandon information theory and, 1311 01:02:19,480 --> 01:02:22,280 in a sense, abandon Shannon too. 1312 01:02:25,440 --> 01:02:28,040 - It seems like after your big discoveries 1313 01:02:28,040 --> 01:02:30,440 you stopped really working on information theory. 1314 01:02:30,440 --> 01:02:33,080 Is that because you just grew tired of it? 1315 01:02:34,360 --> 01:02:39,160 - Well, the first part is right, that I didn't do much work 1316 01:02:40,640 --> 01:02:43,680 on it later, but, you know, most 1317 01:02:43,680 --> 01:02:43,720 of the great mathematicians have done their finest work on it later, but, you know, most 1318 01:02:43,720 --> 01:02:46,600 of the great mathematicians have done their finest work 1319 01:02:46,600 --> 01:02:50,000 in their '20s and '30s and not so much 1320 01:02:50,000 --> 01:02:52,440 when they're older, like athletes. 1321 01:02:52,440 --> 01:02:56,000 Although, I've just recently taken up jogging. (chuckles) 1322 01:02:56,000 --> 01:02:58,080 - But it seems like you spend a lot more time working 1323 01:02:58,080 --> 01:02:59,760 on your gadgets now. 1324 01:02:59,760 --> 01:03:03,560 - I have a lot of things I like to spend time on. 1325 01:03:03,560 --> 01:03:07,720 The intelligent machine idea is my big interest now. 1326 01:03:09,160 --> 01:03:13,960 The transformation of information that a human brain does, 1327 01:03:14,320 --> 01:03:19,120 not just the transmission, how the brain works or doesn't. 1328 01:03:20,800 --> 01:03:22,800 I think that's the biggest challenge now. 1329 01:03:23,880 --> 01:03:25,640 (bleeping) 1330 01:03:25,640 --> 01:03:28,040 Simulating the human brain. 1331 01:03:28,840 --> 01:03:31,240 Alan Turing and I often had lunch together and we'd talk 1332 01:03:31,240 --> 01:03:31,280 about if you could get a computer the equivalent of a brain, Alan Turing and I often had lunch together and we'd talk 1333 01:03:31,280 --> 01:03:35,320 about if you could get a computer the equivalent of a brain, 1334 01:03:35,320 --> 01:03:37,800 a human brain, or even a lot better. 1335 01:03:37,800 --> 01:03:37,840 I wrote a paper about how a computer could play chess. a human brain, or even a lot better. 1336 01:03:37,840 --> 01:03:41,680 I wrote a paper about how a computer could play chess. 1337 01:03:41,680 --> 01:03:42,680 I have a standing bet 1338 01:03:42,680 --> 01:03:46,720 that a computer will beat the grand champion by 2001. 1339 01:03:46,720 --> 01:03:46,760 (big band music) that a computer will beat the grand champion by 2001. 1340 01:03:46,760 --> 01:03:48,280 (big band music) 1341 01:03:48,280 --> 01:03:51,160 - Back in 1949, when computers were first 1342 01:03:51,160 --> 01:03:53,680 becoming available, Shannon had the vision 1343 01:03:53,680 --> 01:03:53,720 that it would be great to program one of these contraptions becoming available, Shannon had the vision 1344 01:03:53,720 --> 01:03:58,480 that it would be great to program one of these contraptions 1345 01:03:58,520 --> 01:04:02,440 to play the complicated, difficult game of chess. 1346 01:04:02,440 --> 01:04:04,440 He laid out a complete roadmap 1347 01:04:04,440 --> 01:04:06,320 of how to build a chess program. 1348 01:04:06,320 --> 01:04:08,960 - Of course, being Claude Shannon, it's not enough 1349 01:04:08,960 --> 01:04:12,120 to just write a paper, he also builds one 1350 01:04:12,120 --> 01:04:15,760 of the world's first successful chess-playing computers. 1351 01:04:15,760 --> 01:04:18,240 Now, computers weren't powerful enough at the time 1352 01:04:18,240 --> 01:04:20,200 to play a full game of chess, 1353 01:04:20,200 --> 01:04:20,240 so his computer can only play the last six moves of a game. to play a full game of chess, 1354 01:04:20,240 --> 01:04:24,200 so his computer can only play the last six moves of a game. 1355 01:04:24,200 --> 01:04:27,800 He calls it End Game, because that's what it can play. 1356 01:04:27,800 --> 01:04:31,520 It took eight years from when End Game was completed 1357 01:04:31,520 --> 01:04:34,360 to when someone else came and used Shannon's ideas 1358 01:04:34,360 --> 01:04:36,960 to build a computer that could play a full game of chess. 1359 01:04:36,960 --> 01:04:39,320 - Shannon observed that although chess 1360 01:04:39,320 --> 01:04:39,360 is incredibly complicated, the astronomical number - Shannon observed that although chess 1361 01:04:39,360 --> 01:04:42,600 is incredibly complicated, the astronomical number 1362 01:04:42,600 --> 01:04:45,320 of possible chess games, and he calculated those, 1363 01:04:45,320 --> 01:04:47,360 you don't have to look all the way to the end of the game 1364 01:04:47,360 --> 01:04:47,400 to figure out what a good move is, you only have you don't have to look all the way to the end of the game 1365 01:04:47,400 --> 01:04:50,160 to figure out what a good move is, you only have 1366 01:04:50,160 --> 01:04:53,160 to look ahead a few moves and conduct some sort 1367 01:04:53,160 --> 01:04:55,720 of evaluation about the possible moves you could reach 1368 01:04:55,720 --> 01:04:58,360 and find the path that leads to the best one. 1369 01:04:58,360 --> 01:05:02,520 This principle became the basis for every chess program 1370 01:05:02,520 --> 01:05:03,960 that came after it. 1371 01:05:03,960 --> 01:05:04,000 (big band music) that came after it. 1372 01:05:04,000 --> 01:05:06,640 (big band music) 1373 01:05:12,400 --> 01:05:14,840 - When you've done something like Shannon did in '48 1374 01:05:14,840 --> 01:05:18,080 and then again, or earlier in '45, I mean, cryptography 1375 01:05:18,080 --> 01:05:18,120 and information theory, what do you do for an encore? and then again, or earlier in '45, I mean, cryptography 1376 01:05:18,120 --> 01:05:21,040 and information theory, what do you do for an encore? 1377 01:05:21,040 --> 01:05:22,680 It's really hard. 1378 01:05:22,680 --> 01:05:26,360 And I think people are waiting for either something good 1379 01:05:26,360 --> 01:05:30,680 to come out, or some people who, maybe jealous, 1380 01:05:30,680 --> 01:05:32,880 are waiting for you to fall down and say, 1381 01:05:32,880 --> 01:05:34,520 "See, he's a has been." 1382 01:05:34,520 --> 01:05:36,600 - There is that small contusion of people though who say, 1383 01:05:36,600 --> 01:05:41,320 "Well, you know, Shannon worked on information theory alone 1384 01:05:41,320 --> 01:05:41,360 "in private for 10 years, "Well, you know, Shannon worked on information theory alone 1385 01:05:41,360 --> 01:05:43,160 "in private for 10 years, 1386 01:05:43,160 --> 01:05:45,920 "and then dropped this great achievement on everyone's lap 1387 01:05:45,920 --> 01:05:45,960 "without telling a soul, maybe, just maybe, "and then dropped this great achievement on everyone's lap 1388 01:05:45,960 --> 01:05:49,160 "without telling a soul, maybe, just maybe, 1389 01:05:49,160 --> 01:05:51,000 "he's up to something again, like that, 1390 01:05:51,000 --> 01:05:52,080 "that he's working on something. 1391 01:05:52,080 --> 01:05:54,680 "Could it be that he just has a project that he's working on 1392 01:05:54,680 --> 01:05:56,920 "that he hasn't told anyone about?" 1393 01:05:56,920 --> 01:05:59,320 - Do you wanna see the first wearable computer? 1394 01:06:00,200 --> 01:06:01,080 - Okay. 1395 01:06:04,360 --> 01:06:06,480 - I built this with Ed Thorp, 1396 01:06:06,480 --> 01:06:08,400 who was a professor here at MIT. 1397 01:06:08,400 --> 01:06:12,560 Ed had a paper he wanted to get published about blackjack 1398 01:06:12,560 --> 01:06:15,760 in the proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences. 1399 01:06:15,760 --> 01:06:15,800 Since I was the only member of the academy at the time in the proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences. 1400 01:06:15,800 --> 01:06:18,360 Since I was the only member of the academy at the time 1401 01:06:18,360 --> 01:06:21,760 at MIT, he asked for my help. 1402 01:06:21,760 --> 01:06:23,640 We got to talking, and it turns out 1403 01:06:23,640 --> 01:06:23,680 he had some pretty interesting ideas about roulette, too. We got to talking, and it turns out 1404 01:06:23,680 --> 01:06:27,120 he had some pretty interesting ideas about roulette, too. 1405 01:06:27,120 --> 01:06:29,680 (intense tropical music) 1406 01:06:29,680 --> 01:06:29,720 - My father was very interested in gambling. (intense tropical music) 1407 01:06:29,720 --> 01:06:32,600 - My father was very interested in gambling. 1408 01:06:32,600 --> 01:06:34,800 He loved con men, he loved that sort 1409 01:06:34,800 --> 01:06:34,840 of shadier side of people. He loved con men, he loved that sort 1410 01:06:34,840 --> 01:06:37,440 of shadier side of people. 1411 01:06:37,440 --> 01:06:39,480 Not interested in violence at all, 1412 01:06:39,480 --> 01:06:41,560 he was interested in cleverness. 1413 01:06:41,560 --> 01:06:45,040 So, movies that captured that cleverness, like "Topkapi" 1414 01:06:45,040 --> 01:06:48,800 or "The Music Man", were favorites of his. 1415 01:06:48,800 --> 01:06:51,800 So, he ordered a roulette wheel from Las Vegas 1416 01:06:51,800 --> 01:06:53,760 and they set it up in the basement with a strobe light 1417 01:06:53,760 --> 01:06:57,200 and went to work on a wearable computer 1418 01:06:57,200 --> 01:07:00,640 that could try to improve the odds for roulette. 1419 01:07:00,640 --> 01:07:05,440 - Our little computer could time the speed of the wheel 1420 01:07:06,120 --> 01:07:08,240 and the speed of the ball in the other direction. 1421 01:07:08,240 --> 01:07:11,760 It's a simple dynamic system with very little friction. 1422 01:07:11,760 --> 01:07:11,800 We discovered that nearly all roulette tables It's a simple dynamic system with very little friction. 1423 01:07:11,800 --> 01:07:16,080 We discovered that nearly all roulette tables 1424 01:07:16,080 --> 01:07:18,840 are slightly tilted, so we could predict two thirds 1425 01:07:18,840 --> 01:07:20,960 of the time which half of the wheel the ball would fall in. 1426 01:07:20,960 --> 01:07:21,000 The computer would be in my pocket, of the time which half of the wheel the ball would fall in. 1427 01:07:21,000 --> 01:07:24,360 The computer would be in my pocket, 1428 01:07:24,360 --> 01:07:26,920 and these little wires would run down my pant leg 1429 01:07:26,920 --> 01:07:26,960 into my shoe, and there was a little switch in there and these little wires would run down my pant leg 1430 01:07:26,960 --> 01:07:29,640 into my shoe, and there was a little switch in there 1431 01:07:29,640 --> 01:07:32,080 that I operated with my big toe. 1432 01:07:32,080 --> 01:07:36,880 And then these ran up to a little loud speaker in my ear, 1433 01:07:36,920 --> 01:07:39,880 and the computer would send one of the eight musical notes 1434 01:07:39,880 --> 01:07:43,120 of the scale to mark the octants in the wheel. 1435 01:07:43,120 --> 01:07:45,440 Ed had a little loud speaker in his ear, too, 1436 01:07:45,440 --> 01:07:49,760 and I operated the computer, and Ed placed the bets 1437 01:07:49,760 --> 01:07:49,800 and pretended he didn't know me. and I operated the computer, and Ed placed the bets 1438 01:07:49,800 --> 01:07:51,520 and pretended he didn't know me. 1439 01:07:51,520 --> 01:07:54,800 (intense tropical music) 1440 01:07:56,440 --> 01:07:59,560 We had some practical problems when we headed to Las Vegas. 1441 01:07:59,560 --> 01:08:02,400 The wires going down my pant leg kept shorting 1442 01:08:02,400 --> 01:08:03,800 and giving me little shocks. 1443 01:08:03,800 --> 01:08:04,800 (all laugh) 1444 01:08:04,800 --> 01:08:07,440 - And Ed's speaker fell out of his ear, 1445 01:08:07,440 --> 01:08:09,400 and he nearly scared this lady to death, 1446 01:08:09,400 --> 01:08:12,600 because she thought it was some alien insect. 1447 01:08:12,600 --> 01:08:12,640 (all laugh) because she thought it was some alien insect. 1448 01:08:12,640 --> 01:08:14,840 (all laugh) 1449 01:08:14,840 --> 01:08:17,320 We were lucky we didn't get arrested. 1450 01:08:17,320 --> 01:08:18,680 (all laugh) 1451 01:08:18,680 --> 01:08:21,680 (intense tropical music) 1452 01:08:21,680 --> 01:08:22,480 - He said this at one point, 1453 01:08:22,480 --> 01:08:22,520 he wasn't interested in practicality. - He said this at one point, 1454 01:08:22,520 --> 01:08:26,320 he wasn't interested in practicality. 1455 01:08:27,520 --> 01:08:29,640 I don't think that was quite what he meant. 1456 01:08:31,400 --> 01:08:35,240 He was very interested in what's needed to be practical, 1457 01:08:36,680 --> 01:08:40,840 but he didn't wanna spend his life starting a company. 1458 01:08:40,840 --> 01:08:40,880 He knew that that wasn't the right thing for him. but he didn't wanna spend his life starting a company. 1459 01:08:40,880 --> 01:08:43,480 He knew that that wasn't the right thing for him. 1460 01:08:43,480 --> 01:08:45,320 People who start companies have 1461 01:08:45,320 --> 01:08:48,440 to feel a very strong competitive urge, they have to want 1462 01:08:48,440 --> 01:08:53,240 to beat other people, and he was not a competitive person. 1463 01:08:55,080 --> 01:08:58,600 He was a person who, whenever you talked to him, 1464 01:08:58,600 --> 01:09:02,120 he was not trying to dominate you intellectually, 1465 01:09:02,120 --> 01:09:06,920 he was very much a cooperator, not a competitor. 1466 01:09:08,480 --> 01:09:11,400 He really was interested in practical things. 1467 01:09:11,400 --> 01:09:11,440 All the things he built were very practical. He really was interested in practical things. 1468 01:09:11,440 --> 01:09:13,680 All the things he built were very practical. 1469 01:09:13,680 --> 01:09:17,640 His maze, a toy, yes, but it was a toy 1470 01:09:17,640 --> 01:09:21,400 that illustrated some very interesting things. 1471 01:09:21,400 --> 01:09:24,960 His chess-playing machine, again, a toy, 1472 01:09:24,960 --> 01:09:27,240 but artificial intelligence people 1473 01:09:27,240 --> 01:09:27,280 just learned so many things from that, but artificial intelligence people 1474 01:09:27,280 --> 01:09:29,080 just learned so many things from that, 1475 01:09:29,080 --> 01:09:31,000 and it was highly useful. 1476 01:09:31,000 --> 01:09:33,680 His cryptography during the second World War, 1477 01:09:33,680 --> 01:09:36,600 the fact that it wasn't very practical then 1478 01:09:36,600 --> 01:09:38,160 is almost irrelevant. 1479 01:09:38,160 --> 01:09:38,200 He still wrote the best paper on cryptography is almost irrelevant. 1480 01:09:38,200 --> 01:09:41,120 He still wrote the best paper on cryptography 1481 01:09:41,120 --> 01:09:41,160 that's been written yet. He still wrote the best paper on cryptography 1482 01:09:41,160 --> 01:09:42,880 that's been written yet. 1483 01:09:42,880 --> 01:09:44,720 - He asked questions that no one asked, 1484 01:09:44,720 --> 01:09:46,120 and that was an amazing thing. 1485 01:09:46,120 --> 01:09:48,920 The questions are very meaningful, and he answered them, 1486 01:09:48,920 --> 01:09:48,960 and no one thought those questions The questions are very meaningful, and he answered them, 1487 01:09:48,960 --> 01:09:50,200 and no one thought those questions 1488 01:09:50,200 --> 01:09:52,280 could be answered that way. 1489 01:09:52,280 --> 01:09:54,240 - Practical or playful? 1490 01:09:55,560 --> 01:09:57,560 It's a silly question in most cases. 1491 01:09:59,120 --> 01:10:00,520 He was into understanding. 1492 01:10:05,920 --> 01:10:07,160 - What do you think about the idea 1493 01:10:07,160 --> 01:10:10,400 that a machine might one day outthink a human? 1494 01:10:11,840 --> 01:10:14,360 - Well, I'm rooting for the machines. 1495 01:10:16,480 --> 01:10:18,120 - But do you think a machine would ever come up 1496 01:10:18,120 --> 01:10:18,160 with the idea of a flaming trumpet? - But do you think a machine would ever come up 1497 01:10:18,160 --> 01:10:20,640 with the idea of a flaming trumpet? 1498 01:10:20,640 --> 01:10:22,200 (Claude chuckles) 1499 01:10:22,200 --> 01:10:25,600 - I think that creative stuff is a long way off, 1500 01:10:25,600 --> 01:10:30,400 but in the meantime they can be a boon to humanity. 1501 01:10:31,160 --> 01:10:33,080 (Claude sighs) 1502 01:10:33,080 --> 01:10:33,120 And I'd like to see that happen as soon as possible. (Claude sighs) 1503 01:10:33,120 --> 01:10:37,400 And I'd like to see that happen as soon as possible. 1504 01:10:40,160 --> 01:10:42,720 - Shannon's Master's thesis lays the foundation 1505 01:10:42,720 --> 01:10:45,840 for this idea that machines could be made to think, 1506 01:10:45,840 --> 01:10:45,880 that they could capably mimic a human brain. for this idea that machines could be made to think, 1507 01:10:45,880 --> 01:10:48,440 that they could capably mimic a human brain. 1508 01:10:48,440 --> 01:10:51,760 And he himself invents devices that mimic a brain. 1509 01:10:51,760 --> 01:10:54,040 There's Theseus, the mouse that can navigate its way 1510 01:10:54,040 --> 01:10:56,360 through a maze, there's End Game, the computer 1511 01:10:56,360 --> 01:10:59,160 that can play the last six moves in a chess game, 1512 01:10:59,960 --> 01:11:04,360 but it's at precisely the time when artificial intelligence 1513 01:11:04,360 --> 01:11:04,400 and computing is taking off but it's at precisely the time when artificial intelligence 1514 01:11:04,400 --> 01:11:07,240 and computing is taking off 1515 01:11:07,240 --> 01:11:10,320 that Shannon is on the sidelines. 1516 01:11:10,320 --> 01:11:10,360 Even though information theory was being applied that Shannon is on the sidelines. 1517 01:11:10,360 --> 01:11:13,040 Even though information theory was being applied 1518 01:11:13,040 --> 01:11:13,080 in ways beyond what Shannon could've imagined. Even though information theory was being applied 1519 01:11:13,080 --> 01:11:15,320 in ways beyond what Shannon could've imagined. 1520 01:11:16,160 --> 01:11:18,680 - I heard that one of your last papers proved 1521 01:11:18,680 --> 01:11:20,360 that you could make a reliable circuit 1522 01:11:20,360 --> 01:11:22,680 from faulty components. 1523 01:11:22,680 --> 01:11:24,280 Do you think that this might have applications 1524 01:11:24,280 --> 01:11:25,120 for the brain? 1525 01:11:25,120 --> 01:11:26,680 (Claude chuckles) 1526 01:11:26,680 --> 01:11:27,480 - I hope so. 1527 01:11:28,320 --> 01:11:30,640 I mean, the brain can suffer all kinds of damage 1528 01:11:31,560 --> 01:11:34,440 and still handle things pretty well, 1529 01:11:34,440 --> 01:11:37,040 which means there must be redundancy. 1530 01:11:37,040 --> 01:11:40,160 The fact that the brain has 10 billion neurons 1531 01:11:40,160 --> 01:11:42,560 probably means that it was cheaper for biology 1532 01:11:42,560 --> 01:11:45,920 to just make more components than 1533 01:11:45,920 --> 01:11:45,960 to figure out sophisticated circuits. to just make more components than 1534 01:11:45,960 --> 01:11:50,200 to figure out sophisticated circuits. 1535 01:11:50,200 --> 01:11:50,240 Trying to work out all the different connections to figure out sophisticated circuits. 1536 01:11:50,240 --> 01:11:53,200 Trying to work out all the different connections 1537 01:11:53,200 --> 01:11:58,000 would be astronomical, impossible, 1538 01:11:58,520 --> 01:12:01,680 but if we can find patterns, 1539 01:12:03,480 --> 01:12:08,280 well, there may be ways to simplify things. 1540 01:12:09,840 --> 01:12:12,600 - If we look at the data in the brain, 1541 01:12:12,600 --> 01:12:15,880 all the data is interrelated to each other. 1542 01:12:15,880 --> 01:12:17,920 So, there's a huge amount of redundancy. 1543 01:12:18,800 --> 01:12:21,040 If I have this type of neuron there, it tells me 1544 01:12:21,040 --> 01:12:21,080 that there's another kind of neuron there, If I have this type of neuron there, it tells me 1545 01:12:21,080 --> 01:12:22,440 that there's another kind of neuron there, 1546 01:12:22,440 --> 01:12:24,360 and this kind of neuron, and this one's not there, 1547 01:12:24,360 --> 01:12:24,400 and this one's not there. and this kind of neuron, and this one's not there, 1548 01:12:24,400 --> 01:12:25,440 and this one's not there. 1549 01:12:25,440 --> 01:12:27,320 So, we develop rules 1550 01:12:27,320 --> 01:12:29,480 that decide this is how neurons connect. 1551 01:12:30,880 --> 01:12:33,120 We take that brain model, 1552 01:12:33,120 --> 01:12:37,600 and we basically attach it to a virtual mouse body. 1553 01:12:37,600 --> 01:12:40,920 The virtual mouse body has simple models of the eyes 1554 01:12:40,920 --> 01:12:43,080 and the ears and the skin and the whiskers 1555 01:12:43,080 --> 01:12:43,120 so they can receive sensory input, and the ears and the skin and the whiskers 1556 01:12:43,120 --> 01:12:45,560 so they can receive sensory input, 1557 01:12:45,560 --> 01:12:48,160 then you let the virtual mouse loose 1558 01:12:48,160 --> 01:12:48,200 to start running through the maze. then you let the virtual mouse loose 1559 01:12:48,200 --> 01:12:50,040 to start running through the maze. 1560 01:12:50,040 --> 01:12:50,080 So, in that way it's quite similar to start running through the maze. 1561 01:12:50,080 --> 01:12:51,960 So, in that way it's quite similar 1562 01:12:51,960 --> 01:12:55,320 to what Shannon did nearly 60 years ago. 1563 01:12:55,320 --> 01:12:57,920 Einstein's theory of general relativity, 1564 01:12:57,920 --> 01:13:01,880 he had an enormous impact on society and the world 1565 01:13:01,880 --> 01:13:05,120 and physics, and pretty much how the world is today. 1566 01:13:06,320 --> 01:13:09,240 But I think that we haven't even begun to see the kind 1567 01:13:09,240 --> 01:13:12,400 of impact that Shannon is going to have on society, 1568 01:13:12,400 --> 01:13:16,840 because I think the more we understand how... 1569 01:13:16,840 --> 01:13:16,880 Understanding entropy and using information theory because I think the more we understand how... 1570 01:13:16,880 --> 01:13:20,760 Understanding entropy and using information theory 1571 01:13:20,760 --> 01:13:23,880 to help us understand complex systems, 1572 01:13:23,880 --> 01:13:23,920 such as the brain or biology or diseases, to help us understand complex systems, 1573 01:13:23,920 --> 01:13:28,240 such as the brain or biology or diseases, 1574 01:13:28,240 --> 01:13:31,480 I think that this is gonna open an amazing new door. 1575 01:13:36,520 --> 01:13:38,880 - Most physicists didn't really care about information 1576 01:13:38,880 --> 01:13:43,480 as a primary focus for many, many years. 1577 01:13:43,480 --> 01:13:45,840 Even most people thinking about abstruse, 1578 01:13:45,840 --> 01:13:47,240 esoteric questions in fundamental physics, 1579 01:13:47,240 --> 01:13:49,360 but that really changed in the 1980s 1580 01:13:49,360 --> 01:13:49,400 when a lot of people focused but that really changed in the 1980s 1581 01:13:49,400 --> 01:13:50,680 when a lot of people focused 1582 01:13:50,680 --> 01:13:54,560 on the famous black hole information paradox. 1583 01:13:54,560 --> 01:13:57,800 If you collide particles with enough energy, 1584 01:13:57,800 --> 01:13:59,960 (whooshing) 1585 01:13:59,960 --> 01:14:03,200 they'll have so much mass that they'll collapse the region 1586 01:14:03,200 --> 01:14:05,280 that they collided in into a black hole. 1587 01:14:06,640 --> 01:14:10,240 In a classical world, nothing can get out of the black hole, 1588 01:14:10,240 --> 01:14:13,280 even something going at the speed of light could not get out 1589 01:14:13,280 --> 01:14:13,320 of a black hole. even something going at the speed of light could not get out 1590 01:14:13,320 --> 01:14:15,080 of a black hole. 1591 01:14:15,080 --> 01:14:16,200 But Stephen Hawking showed 1592 01:14:16,200 --> 01:14:18,600 that quantum-mechanically black holes leak, 1593 01:14:20,240 --> 01:14:21,720 but what came out of the black hole 1594 01:14:21,720 --> 01:14:21,760 is completely independent of what made the black hole, but what came out of the black hole 1595 01:14:21,760 --> 01:14:24,320 is completely independent of what made the black hole, 1596 01:14:24,320 --> 01:14:24,360 and one was left with a major paradox. is completely independent of what made the black hole, 1597 01:14:24,360 --> 01:14:26,640 and one was left with a major paradox. 1598 01:14:26,640 --> 01:14:26,680 Where did the information about what made the black hole go? and one was left with a major paradox. 1599 01:14:26,680 --> 01:14:29,600 Where did the information about what made the black hole go? 1600 01:14:29,600 --> 01:14:30,520 Right? 1601 01:14:30,520 --> 01:14:30,560 Because seemingly you could make a black hole Right? 1602 01:14:30,560 --> 01:14:31,680 Because seemingly you could make a black hole 1603 01:14:31,680 --> 01:14:32,600 in a zillion different ways. 1604 01:14:32,600 --> 01:14:34,200 You could throw in an elephant, 1605 01:14:34,200 --> 01:14:35,000 you could throw in an encyclopedia, 1606 01:14:35,000 --> 01:14:35,040 but what came out always looked exactly the same. you could throw in an encyclopedia, 1607 01:14:35,040 --> 01:14:37,560 but what came out always looked exactly the same. 1608 01:14:37,560 --> 01:14:40,120 It looked like information was lost. 1609 01:14:40,120 --> 01:14:41,200 And that is a no-no. 1610 01:14:41,200 --> 01:14:43,360 That cannot happen according to any of the laws 1611 01:14:43,360 --> 01:14:45,680 of either classical or quantum mechanics. 1612 01:14:45,680 --> 01:14:48,240 And in order to decide whether the information is lost 1613 01:14:48,240 --> 01:14:51,680 or not, one thing that became apparent eventually is 1614 01:14:51,680 --> 01:14:55,400 that thinking more carefully about what the information was 1615 01:14:55,400 --> 01:14:55,440 and very much making use of the ideas that thinking more carefully about what the information was 1616 01:14:55,440 --> 01:14:57,680 and very much making use of the ideas 1617 01:14:57,680 --> 01:15:00,920 of entropy ended up being very important. 1618 01:15:02,120 --> 01:15:03,640 What's clear is that information 1619 01:15:03,640 --> 01:15:05,520 in physics is more important 1620 01:15:05,520 --> 01:15:07,640 than you would naively have thought. 1621 01:15:07,640 --> 01:15:10,640 And many of the most fundamental ideas really go back 1622 01:15:10,640 --> 01:15:10,680 to Shannon. And many of the most fundamental ideas really go back 1623 01:15:10,680 --> 01:15:11,440 to Shannon. 1624 01:15:14,480 --> 01:15:17,440 - In 1993, I was finishing up my PhD. 1625 01:15:17,440 --> 01:15:18,960 I was one year away from graduating, 1626 01:15:18,960 --> 01:15:21,360 and I went to a communications conference. 1627 01:15:21,360 --> 01:15:23,600 It wasn't an information theory conference. 1628 01:15:23,600 --> 01:15:27,320 It was in Switzerland and it's a very big conference, 1629 01:15:27,320 --> 01:15:29,760 so there's maybe 800 or 900 people that attend. 1630 01:15:29,760 --> 01:15:32,800 There's usually 10 to 12 parallel sessions 1631 01:15:32,800 --> 01:15:32,840 on everything from what's the next generation There's usually 10 to 12 parallel sessions 1632 01:15:32,840 --> 01:15:35,760 on everything from what's the next generation 1633 01:15:35,760 --> 01:15:38,320 of cell phone standards gonna look like 1634 01:15:38,320 --> 01:15:40,680 to more mathematical types of talks 1635 01:15:40,680 --> 01:15:42,920 in more theoretical dimensions. 1636 01:15:42,920 --> 01:15:46,360 So, I went to this session 'cause there was nothing else 1637 01:15:46,360 --> 01:15:46,400 to see, and maybe there was one person in the session So, I went to this session 'cause there was nothing else 1638 01:15:46,400 --> 01:15:48,840 to see, and maybe there was one person in the session 1639 01:15:48,840 --> 01:15:50,120 that I thought was a good speaker. 1640 01:15:50,120 --> 01:15:53,000 So I thought, "Okay, I'll go listen to that talk." 1641 01:15:53,000 --> 01:15:53,040 And there was a presentation. So I thought, "Okay, I'll go listen to that talk." 1642 01:15:53,040 --> 01:15:54,480 And there was a presentation. 1643 01:15:54,480 --> 01:15:57,200 I didn't know any of the authors, they were really unknown 1644 01:15:57,200 --> 01:15:59,000 to information theorists, coding theorists, 1645 01:15:59,000 --> 01:16:00,160 nobody knew who they were. 1646 01:16:00,160 --> 01:16:03,320 And these guys that got up, they were two French guys 1647 01:16:03,320 --> 01:16:05,280 and one guy from Thailand who nobody knew. 1648 01:16:05,280 --> 01:16:05,320 I mean, they were completely unknown. and one guy from Thailand who nobody knew. 1649 01:16:05,320 --> 01:16:06,960 I mean, they were completely unknown. 1650 01:16:06,960 --> 01:16:09,520 And so, most people were probably chatting with each other, 1651 01:16:09,520 --> 01:16:09,560 and maybe there were a few people paying attention. And so, most people were probably chatting with each other, 1652 01:16:09,560 --> 01:16:12,080 and maybe there were a few people paying attention. 1653 01:16:12,080 --> 01:16:12,120 And they get up and they say and maybe there were a few people paying attention. 1654 01:16:12,120 --> 01:16:13,040 And they get up and they say 1655 01:16:13,040 --> 01:16:15,280 they basically achieved the Shannon limit, 1656 01:16:15,280 --> 01:16:17,800 and everybody was incredibly skeptical. 1657 01:16:17,800 --> 01:16:17,840 We're like, "Oh, there must be a mistake and everybody was incredibly skeptical. 1658 01:16:17,840 --> 01:16:19,120 We're like, "Oh, there must be a mistake 1659 01:16:19,120 --> 01:16:21,280 "in their simulations, or, you know, 1660 01:16:21,280 --> 01:16:22,520 "they don't know what they're talking about, 1661 01:16:22,520 --> 01:16:23,520 "or their math is wrong." 1662 01:16:23,520 --> 01:16:27,200 - It was such a shock that people were just, 1663 01:16:27,200 --> 01:16:27,240 "It doesn't make any sense, this ugly thing." - It was such a shock that people were just, 1664 01:16:27,240 --> 01:16:29,560 "It doesn't make any sense, this ugly thing." 1665 01:16:29,560 --> 01:16:29,600 - It was mostly an experimental result. "It doesn't make any sense, this ugly thing." 1666 01:16:29,600 --> 01:16:33,000 - It was mostly an experimental result. 1667 01:16:33,000 --> 01:16:36,080 And the idea was to take multiple simple things 1668 01:16:37,000 --> 01:16:38,920 and combine them in a way 1669 01:16:38,920 --> 01:16:41,840 that created this very complex code. 1670 01:16:41,840 --> 01:16:41,880 And then they showed their simulation results, that created this very complex code. 1671 01:16:41,880 --> 01:16:44,120 And then they showed their simulation results, 1672 01:16:44,120 --> 01:16:47,760 which basically hit the Shannon limit, and it was amazing. 1673 01:16:47,760 --> 01:16:50,280 (intense instrumental music) 1674 01:16:50,280 --> 01:16:54,120 50 years on, the final piece of Shannon's vision 1675 01:16:54,120 --> 01:16:56,640 of the future was proved to be true. 1676 01:16:58,160 --> 01:17:00,400 You could have perfect communication 1677 01:17:00,400 --> 01:17:02,120 with as little errors as you wanted. 1678 01:17:03,400 --> 01:17:06,520 - Actually, everything that Shannon has predicted back 1679 01:17:06,520 --> 01:17:06,560 in 1948 came true. - Actually, everything that Shannon has predicted back 1680 01:17:06,560 --> 01:17:08,320 in 1948 came true. 1681 01:17:08,320 --> 01:17:10,720 He's completely vindicated. 1682 01:17:10,720 --> 01:17:13,400 - Anytime you store, process, 1683 01:17:13,400 --> 01:17:17,000 or transmit information in digital form, 1684 01:17:17,000 --> 01:17:21,800 every time you save a file on a hard drive, play a CD 1685 01:17:22,000 --> 01:17:26,800 or DVD, talk on a cell phone, send an email, Tweet, text, 1686 01:17:27,920 --> 01:17:31,000 Instagram, the wireless revolution, 1687 01:17:31,960 --> 01:17:36,760 you're relying on the concepts in Shannon's 1948 paper. 1688 01:17:37,120 --> 01:17:40,120 - Millions of people spend huge chunks 1689 01:17:40,120 --> 01:17:43,240 of their day consuming the codes 1690 01:17:43,240 --> 01:17:46,280 that Claude Shannon said had to be there. 1691 01:17:46,280 --> 01:17:48,360 Information is everything to us. 1692 01:17:51,240 --> 01:17:54,240 - And today, everyone carries Shannon around 1693 01:17:54,240 --> 01:17:55,560 in their pocket. 1694 01:18:08,040 --> 01:18:08,840 - Wow! 1695 01:18:11,920 --> 01:18:13,360 - My ultimate machine. 1696 01:18:15,280 --> 01:18:18,000 (machine buzzing) 1697 01:18:20,160 --> 01:18:21,360 (snapping) 1698 01:18:21,360 --> 01:18:24,160 - (chuckles) What? 1699 01:18:25,240 --> 01:18:28,280 - You know what Fats Waller said about swing music, 1700 01:18:28,280 --> 01:18:28,320 don't you, Michelle? - You know what Fats Waller said about swing music, 1701 01:18:28,320 --> 01:18:29,480 don't you, Michelle? 1702 01:18:29,480 --> 01:18:30,280 - Oh, no. 1703 01:18:31,720 --> 01:18:33,480 - "Either you got it or you ain't." 1704 01:18:34,760 --> 01:18:35,600 - Uh. 1705 01:18:38,440 --> 01:18:41,160 (machine buzzing) 1706 01:18:44,000 --> 01:18:47,520 (gentle instrumental music) 1707 01:18:48,480 --> 01:18:52,160 - I often wonder if Claude Shannon understood 1708 01:18:52,160 --> 01:18:54,040 how much information there would be 1709 01:18:54,920 --> 01:18:57,040 after his many discoveries. 1710 01:18:57,040 --> 01:18:57,080 I wonder, did he understand after his many discoveries. 1711 01:18:57,080 --> 01:18:58,360 I wonder, did he understand 1712 01:18:58,360 --> 01:19:01,080 that we would have this information explosion? 1713 01:19:01,080 --> 01:19:01,120 That in the last couple that we would have this information explosion? 1714 01:19:01,120 --> 01:19:02,200 That in the last couple 1715 01:19:02,200 --> 01:19:02,240 of years we've generated more information than the sum That in the last couple 1716 01:19:02,240 --> 01:19:04,840 of years we've generated more information than the sum 1717 01:19:04,840 --> 01:19:06,160 of all human history. 1718 01:19:06,960 --> 01:19:08,800 Literally, he not only won the lottery, 1719 01:19:08,800 --> 01:19:08,840 he invented the lottery. Literally, he not only won the lottery, 1720 01:19:08,840 --> 01:19:10,120 he invented the lottery. 1721 01:19:11,040 --> 01:19:14,560 (gentle instrumental music) 1722 01:19:25,480 --> 01:19:29,400 - When I was starting my PhD program at Harvard, 1723 01:19:29,400 --> 01:19:31,320 and this would've been 1992, 1724 01:19:31,320 --> 01:19:33,680 so my father already had Alzheimer's 1725 01:19:33,680 --> 01:19:36,640 and was already fairly compromised in terms 1726 01:19:36,640 --> 01:19:39,880 of his cognitive ability, he asked me what I was going 1727 01:19:39,880 --> 01:19:42,360 to be working on, and at the time I was working on a project 1728 01:19:42,360 --> 01:19:46,000 about how the magnetic field of the earth flips 1729 01:19:46,000 --> 01:19:50,280 from time to time, approximately every million years, 1730 01:19:50,280 --> 01:19:53,160 I was astonished at how quickly he was able 1731 01:19:53,160 --> 01:19:53,200 to ask the very core questions of the problem, I was astonished at how quickly he was able 1732 01:19:53,200 --> 01:19:56,720 to ask the very core questions of the problem, 1733 01:19:56,720 --> 01:19:59,960 he cut right to it, and I was amazed. 1734 01:19:59,960 --> 01:20:01,600 And I thought, "This is fantastic. 1735 01:20:01,600 --> 01:20:06,320 "I'm going to have this fabulous mind at my side (chuckles) 1736 01:20:06,320 --> 01:20:06,360 "while I go through graduate school. "I'm going to have this fabulous mind at my side (chuckles) 1737 01:20:06,360 --> 01:20:07,720 "while I go through graduate school. 1738 01:20:07,720 --> 01:20:11,120 "This is gonna be so much fun for both of us." 1739 01:20:11,920 --> 01:20:16,720 Alas, he was not able to continue that kind of questioning 1740 01:20:17,000 --> 01:20:18,960 or even thinking for very much longer, 1741 01:20:18,960 --> 01:20:21,480 so I didn't in fact have him at my side for graduate school. 1742 01:20:21,480 --> 01:20:24,480 But I remember very clearly that conversation and thinking, 1743 01:20:24,480 --> 01:20:25,520 "Wow! 1744 01:20:25,520 --> 01:20:27,240 "That's something." 1745 01:20:27,240 --> 01:20:27,280 (gentle instrumental music) "That's something." 1746 01:20:27,280 --> 01:20:30,800 (gentle instrumental music) 1747 01:20:37,040 --> 01:20:41,840 - There's science fiction books in which the dates 1748 01:20:42,200 --> 01:20:45,560 of things are so many years A.S., 1749 01:20:45,560 --> 01:20:45,600 and the A.S. stands for After Shannon. of things are so many years A.S., 1750 01:20:45,600 --> 01:20:47,400 and the A.S. stands for After Shannon. 1751 01:20:49,120 --> 01:20:53,920 In some sense, if you look at the human civilization, 1752 01:20:56,760 --> 01:21:00,120 the sudden change in human civilization that was created 1753 01:21:00,120 --> 01:21:02,760 by the digital revolution, computers, 1754 01:21:04,240 --> 01:21:06,520 happened at such a short period of time 1755 01:21:07,360 --> 01:21:11,840 that there's nothing else like that in history. 1756 01:21:11,840 --> 01:21:14,280 So, it could very well be that historically people 1757 01:21:14,280 --> 01:21:16,760 will look back and say, "What happened there?" 1758 01:21:16,760 --> 01:21:18,840 And if you were going to tie it to anybody, 1759 01:21:19,760 --> 01:21:22,080 Shannon is the one that gave us the tools 1760 01:21:22,080 --> 01:21:24,440 that people would still be using in the future. 1761 01:21:24,440 --> 01:21:24,480 So, it's not so implausible that people would still be using in the future. 1762 01:21:24,480 --> 01:21:26,080 So, it's not so implausible 1763 01:21:26,080 --> 01:21:30,880 that people would start measuring years after Shannon. 1764 01:21:31,360 --> 01:21:33,720 (gentle instrumental music) 1765 01:21:33,720 --> 01:21:35,200 - Inventing something 1766 01:21:35,200 --> 01:21:40,000 is like sending a message in a bottle into the future. 1767 01:21:44,000 --> 01:21:47,600 (gentle jazz music) 1768 01:21:47,600 --> 01:21:48,480 - I think it was special 1769 01:21:48,480 --> 01:21:50,920 that he had both the ability and interest 1770 01:21:50,920 --> 01:21:55,520 in theoretical mathematics and this passion for building. 1771 01:21:55,520 --> 01:21:57,920 In a way that a toddler would explore the world, 1772 01:21:57,920 --> 01:22:01,520 he didn't lose that childlike curiosity and delight 1773 01:22:01,520 --> 01:22:01,560 in learning things, discovering things, he didn't lose that childlike curiosity and delight 1774 01:22:01,560 --> 01:22:03,680 in learning things, discovering things, 1775 01:22:03,680 --> 01:22:06,040 putting things together, making connections. 1776 01:22:06,040 --> 01:22:08,920 (gentle jazz music) 1777 01:23:32,080 --> 01:23:35,680 (intense instrumental music) 141765

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