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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:35,578 --> 00:00:37,036 A loved one of theirs was lost. 2 00:00:37,997 --> 00:00:40,247 They feel somebody needs to pay for that. 3 00:00:44,420 --> 00:00:45,794 Worst case scenario, 4 00:00:47,548 --> 00:00:48,881 I end up going to prison. 5 00:00:52,720 --> 00:00:54,261 This whole thing is a bad nightmare. 6 00:00:54,388 --> 00:00:55,929 You just expect to wake up from it. 7 00:00:57,349 --> 00:00:58,474 Then you realize you are awake. 8 00:01:26,545 --> 00:01:27,920 My client, Mr. Mccombs, 9 00:01:28,047 --> 00:01:31,423 is accused of crossing over the double yellow line 10 00:01:31,550 --> 00:01:33,425 and causing a head-on collision. 11 00:01:35,429 --> 00:01:37,679 I'm just taking a look at a few photos to see 12 00:01:37,807 --> 00:01:40,766 exactly how violent this car accident was. 13 00:01:41,811 --> 00:01:44,478 Roland and Perry greaves were the men in this car. 14 00:01:48,109 --> 00:01:52,820 Jason was travelling east on 71 15 00:01:52,947 --> 00:01:55,322 and the greaves were travelling west. 16 00:01:55,449 --> 00:01:57,783 Jason is accused of going over the line 17 00:01:57,910 --> 00:01:59,243 and having a head-on collision. 18 00:02:00,579 --> 00:02:02,830 You can see some of the skid marks right here 19 00:02:02,957 --> 00:02:05,833 where it looks like the greaves came across 20 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:07,376 into Jason's Lane, 21 00:02:08,129 --> 00:02:09,962 trying to avoid this accident. 22 00:02:11,048 --> 00:02:13,257 The greaves spun around, best we can tell, 23 00:02:13,384 --> 00:02:15,050 and stayed, actually, in the road. 24 00:02:16,262 --> 00:02:19,096 Jason's vehicle then comes to stop 25 00:02:19,223 --> 00:02:20,430 in the bar ditch, 26 00:02:20,558 --> 00:02:21,974 catches fire, 27 00:02:22,101 --> 00:02:23,976 and some innocent bystanders came by 28 00:02:24,103 --> 00:02:25,769 and pulled Jason out of his vehicle. 29 00:02:35,114 --> 00:02:37,322 Roland and Perry, father and son. 30 00:02:37,449 --> 00:02:38,907 Roland was killed at the scene. 31 00:02:39,034 --> 00:02:40,409 He was about 80 years old. 32 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:42,870 And then, Perry is still alive today, 33 00:02:42,997 --> 00:02:44,538 but he's hurt very bad, I believe. 34 00:02:53,632 --> 00:02:55,549 This was a car accident, not a crime. 35 00:02:57,052 --> 00:02:58,844 I don't want this to be the precedent 36 00:02:58,971 --> 00:03:01,263 that someone gets in a car accident, someone gets hurt, 37 00:03:01,390 --> 00:03:03,432 and therefore, some otherwise innocent person 38 00:03:03,559 --> 00:03:06,059 gets charged with a felony such as manslaughter, 39 00:03:11,483 --> 00:03:14,193 It terrifies me that these are the kind of events 40 00:03:14,820 --> 00:03:16,195 that cause people to get charged 41 00:03:16,322 --> 00:03:18,030 and have to go to jury trials 42 00:03:18,157 --> 00:03:19,740 and literally fight for their lives. 43 00:03:30,085 --> 00:03:32,127 I'm the sole supporter, I'm the sole provider. 44 00:03:34,298 --> 00:03:37,090 After the accident, I, 45 00:03:37,218 --> 00:03:39,635 lost my job as, executive director 46 00:03:39,762 --> 00:03:41,470 for the health care company I worked at. 47 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:45,641 A few people where I worked knew about the accident and... 48 00:03:45,768 --> 00:03:48,602 I don't know what they knew, but they knew enough. 49 00:03:48,729 --> 00:03:49,645 So... 50 00:03:50,731 --> 00:03:52,231 Things just... You know, I can't... 51 00:03:52,358 --> 00:03:54,358 I can't prove it and I don't dwell on it. 52 00:03:54,485 --> 00:03:56,276 You know, obviously, I've got a family to support. 53 00:03:56,403 --> 00:03:58,320 I needed to do some work, I needed to make money, 54 00:03:59,698 --> 00:04:01,406 so I, started working for a roofing company 55 00:04:01,533 --> 00:04:02,783 as a general contractor. 56 00:04:04,286 --> 00:04:06,036 I'm working, yeah, really hard right now 57 00:04:06,163 --> 00:04:07,287 to build things up. 58 00:04:07,414 --> 00:04:10,457 And my wife, if things do take a turn, 59 00:04:10,584 --> 00:04:11,541 I've got her. 60 00:04:12,753 --> 00:04:14,586 Kind of knowledgeable enough where she can take over 61 00:04:14,713 --> 00:04:16,588 some of my stuff that I have going on. 62 00:04:16,715 --> 00:04:18,048 She can step right in 63 00:04:19,260 --> 00:04:20,467 and that way, at least that money that I have built up, 64 00:04:20,594 --> 00:04:22,344 she can have some sort of an income. 65 00:04:25,432 --> 00:04:26,932 It is what it is. 66 00:04:28,102 --> 00:04:30,602 I just pray and pray and pray and pray and hope that 67 00:04:31,021 --> 00:04:32,980 that's not what it comes down to. 68 00:04:35,734 --> 00:04:38,819 Together, Jason and I have six kids. 69 00:04:40,781 --> 00:04:42,739 Jason's a very hands-on father. 70 00:04:44,118 --> 00:04:45,659 He's the kindest person that you'll ever meet. 71 00:04:46,412 --> 00:04:48,662 He's very funny, very laid back 72 00:04:49,456 --> 00:04:50,372 and goofy, 73 00:04:51,333 --> 00:04:52,416 he listens. 74 00:04:53,127 --> 00:04:55,252 Which you don't come across very often anymore. 75 00:05:10,185 --> 00:05:11,268 So right now, 76 00:05:11,395 --> 00:05:12,894 I'm on my way to go to my attorney's office. 77 00:05:14,315 --> 00:05:16,023 He wants to go over 78 00:05:16,150 --> 00:05:18,275 some of the charges that have been brought against me 79 00:05:18,402 --> 00:05:19,651 in my indictment. 80 00:05:22,239 --> 00:05:25,073 The other family, all they know is that there was an accident, 81 00:05:26,577 --> 00:05:28,035 a loved one of theirs was lost. 82 00:05:29,872 --> 00:05:31,830 And so, for whatever reason, 83 00:05:31,957 --> 00:05:34,166 they feel somebody needs to pay for that. 84 00:05:34,752 --> 00:05:35,917 Be it accident or not. 85 00:05:37,171 --> 00:05:38,795 I mean, an accident's an accident. 86 00:05:38,922 --> 00:05:40,797 And as much as you would want 87 00:05:40,924 --> 00:05:42,799 some type of closure from it, 88 00:05:43,677 --> 00:05:45,177 somebody to blame, 89 00:05:45,304 --> 00:05:46,386 it's not always that easy. 90 00:05:47,848 --> 00:05:49,890 I don't know how I would react on the other side. 91 00:05:50,684 --> 00:05:53,226 We're not in their position, we're not in that spot. 92 00:05:53,354 --> 00:05:54,853 We don't understand what they're going though. 93 00:06:01,612 --> 00:06:03,862 Okay, Jason, I think a good place to start 94 00:06:03,989 --> 00:06:06,114 for now is to go over the indictment. 95 00:06:06,241 --> 00:06:07,324 Okay? Okay. 96 00:06:08,202 --> 00:06:09,951 What they have to prove against you 97 00:06:10,079 --> 00:06:12,537 is that you recklessly 98 00:06:13,499 --> 00:06:16,249 caused the death of an individual. 99 00:06:16,377 --> 00:06:19,503 Specifically Roland greaves. Okay? 100 00:06:19,630 --> 00:06:21,004 Basically, what they're saying 101 00:06:21,131 --> 00:06:23,715 is you were inattentive 102 00:06:23,842 --> 00:06:25,425 and thereby caused the accident. 103 00:06:25,552 --> 00:06:26,885 All righty? 104 00:06:27,012 --> 00:06:29,304 There's four ways that they can prove this allegation. 105 00:06:29,431 --> 00:06:30,514 Way number one 106 00:06:30,641 --> 00:06:32,474 is they prove that you failed 107 00:06:32,601 --> 00:06:35,310 to drive in a single Lane of traffic. Okay? 108 00:06:35,437 --> 00:06:39,272 Or that you drove a car into the Lane of traffic 109 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:40,357 operated by 110 00:06:41,527 --> 00:06:43,318 a motor vehicle transporting Roland greaves. 111 00:06:43,445 --> 00:06:44,611 Okay? 112 00:06:44,738 --> 00:06:47,989 Or that you failed to keep a proper lookout. 113 00:06:48,117 --> 00:06:52,202 Or that you failed to maintain control of your motor vehicle. 114 00:06:53,330 --> 00:06:56,456 And one of those four actions caused an accident 115 00:06:56,583 --> 00:06:59,084 which, took Roland's life. Okay? 116 00:06:59,753 --> 00:07:02,462 It is not illegal, meaning criminal, 117 00:07:02,589 --> 00:07:04,506 in the state of Texas to have a car accident. 118 00:07:04,633 --> 00:07:05,757 Okay? 119 00:07:05,884 --> 00:07:08,593 It is illegal to do so recklessly. 120 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:10,804 All right? What do my outcomes look like? 121 00:07:10,931 --> 00:07:14,015 What is... what does the end of this look like? 122 00:07:14,143 --> 00:07:16,476 Sure. Well, there's only one of a few ways 123 00:07:16,603 --> 00:07:18,145 that a jury trial can end. 124 00:07:18,272 --> 00:07:20,564 Way number one is that we get a not guilty, 125 00:07:20,691 --> 00:07:22,274 and everybody goes home 126 00:07:22,401 --> 00:07:23,358 and this is a bad memory. 127 00:07:24,486 --> 00:07:26,987 Way number two is that we get a guilty. 128 00:07:28,824 --> 00:07:30,031 And if we get a guilty, 129 00:07:30,159 --> 00:07:32,492 then we go to phase number two of the jury trial 130 00:07:32,619 --> 00:07:33,493 which is punishment. 131 00:07:34,204 --> 00:07:35,454 Let's talk about this 132 00:07:35,581 --> 00:07:36,872 'cause this is the scariest one. 133 00:07:38,125 --> 00:07:40,208 Each one of the counts against you, Jason, 134 00:07:40,335 --> 00:07:43,670 has a punishment range from probation 135 00:07:43,797 --> 00:07:45,380 between two and ten years 136 00:07:45,507 --> 00:07:49,176 or two to 20 years in prison. 137 00:07:53,557 --> 00:07:55,223 If the jury were to come back 138 00:07:55,350 --> 00:07:56,766 and put you in prison, 139 00:07:56,894 --> 00:07:58,560 then they would pick a number. 140 00:07:58,687 --> 00:08:01,021 Somewhere between two and 20 years. 141 00:08:04,026 --> 00:08:05,192 It's always scary... 142 00:08:06,778 --> 00:08:08,612 ...having potential prison sentence out there. 143 00:08:08,739 --> 00:08:10,280 That's terrifying. 144 00:08:10,407 --> 00:08:11,740 There's nothing I can do or say 145 00:08:11,867 --> 00:08:14,075 that can take that anxiety from you 146 00:08:14,203 --> 00:08:15,869 or your wife. Okay? 147 00:08:18,373 --> 00:08:19,664 Going forward, 148 00:08:19,791 --> 00:08:22,083 we need to start preparing for the worst 149 00:08:22,211 --> 00:08:23,460 and hoping for the best. 150 00:08:38,018 --> 00:08:40,477 It... it's the stuff you don't want to hear. 151 00:08:40,604 --> 00:08:43,230 There's no putting it aside when you hear it like that. 152 00:08:44,358 --> 00:08:45,440 I'm... 153 00:08:48,278 --> 00:08:49,986 I punish myself enough for what happened 154 00:08:50,113 --> 00:08:51,238 because it was an accident. 155 00:08:52,324 --> 00:08:53,990 It happened. I can't change that. 156 00:08:54,117 --> 00:08:55,408 Now it feel like 157 00:08:56,703 --> 00:08:57,619 I'm being 158 00:08:58,580 --> 00:09:00,121 judged and ruled 159 00:09:00,249 --> 00:09:01,873 for something that was just what it was. 160 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:03,667 It was an accident. And there's... 161 00:09:03,794 --> 00:09:04,793 It... 162 00:09:12,719 --> 00:09:13,927 Whatever a jury does to him, 163 00:09:14,054 --> 00:09:15,554 I don't know if it'll be more than what 164 00:09:15,681 --> 00:09:16,846 his conscience has already done. 165 00:09:19,518 --> 00:09:22,477 This weighs on him every single day. 166 00:09:36,326 --> 00:09:38,702 Um, just praying for the, family. 167 00:09:40,163 --> 00:09:42,038 I can't even fathom what they've gone through. 168 00:09:43,375 --> 00:09:45,041 It's so tragic and devastating. 169 00:09:54,428 --> 00:09:57,637 With our house of friggin' sports team, 170 00:09:57,764 --> 00:09:59,556 it takes a lot of food. -Yeah. 171 00:10:06,273 --> 00:10:08,815 A lot of times, goofing off with my family, 172 00:10:09,860 --> 00:10:11,318 I do my best to shield them from this. 173 00:10:12,988 --> 00:10:14,738 This is not something that I wanna put them though. 174 00:10:15,157 --> 00:10:16,406 Hey. 175 00:10:16,533 --> 00:10:18,241 I got a monster on my back. 176 00:10:21,204 --> 00:10:22,912 If I didn't have my family, 177 00:10:24,291 --> 00:10:25,874 I couldn't say where I'd be right now. 178 00:10:29,838 --> 00:10:31,463 What's at stake is our... 179 00:10:31,590 --> 00:10:33,798 Our family being pulled apart. 180 00:10:33,925 --> 00:10:36,760 And it's very difficult to process. 181 00:10:39,806 --> 00:10:42,641 Though I just try not to let myself go there. 182 00:10:59,284 --> 00:11:02,202 To be accused feels unfair. 183 00:11:05,874 --> 00:11:06,873 First thing that comes to my mind 184 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:08,166 when I think of a criminal 185 00:11:08,293 --> 00:11:10,877 is a thief, murderers. 186 00:11:11,004 --> 00:11:13,672 I think of people that are intentionally hurting someone 187 00:11:13,799 --> 00:11:15,298 or taking something from someone, 188 00:11:16,677 --> 00:11:18,760 and something that my father worked years for 189 00:11:18,887 --> 00:11:20,428 to protect people from. 190 00:11:23,308 --> 00:11:25,475 He served 28 years on the San Antonio police department 191 00:11:25,602 --> 00:11:26,601 before he retired. 192 00:11:31,608 --> 00:11:33,274 Having a spell? Yeah. 193 00:11:35,696 --> 00:11:37,612 I'm sorry, guys, i'm... 194 00:11:37,739 --> 00:11:38,780 You okay? 195 00:11:55,382 --> 00:11:57,924 I wish Wayne was able 'cause he's done, 196 00:11:58,051 --> 00:11:59,884 over the years, hundreds and hundreds 197 00:12:00,011 --> 00:12:02,637 of, reports on car accidents 198 00:12:03,473 --> 00:12:05,515 before he got sick. 199 00:12:05,642 --> 00:12:08,852 He went to the crash site, did all the measurements there, 200 00:12:08,979 --> 00:12:11,521 found all the skid marks, everything. 201 00:12:11,898 --> 00:12:13,732 And he came to me and said, 202 00:12:14,359 --> 00:12:16,109 "I don't think they can prove either way." 203 00:12:16,236 --> 00:12:18,319 He said, "I don't think we'll ever know. 204 00:12:18,447 --> 00:12:21,990 "If the other person went over or if Jason went over." 205 00:12:22,117 --> 00:12:23,116 So... 206 00:12:24,161 --> 00:12:26,161 It's just a terrific accident 207 00:12:26,288 --> 00:12:28,997 that both families will never completely recover from. 208 00:12:32,127 --> 00:12:33,376 He was a handful. 209 00:12:33,503 --> 00:12:34,961 We had to give you a run for your money. 210 00:12:35,088 --> 00:12:36,463 Hell, yep. Yeah. 211 00:12:36,590 --> 00:12:39,549 You know, I chased criminals, it didn't bother me. 212 00:12:40,177 --> 00:12:42,844 Boy, but chasing him... 213 00:12:44,639 --> 00:12:47,098 He's been my best friend my whole life. 214 00:12:47,225 --> 00:12:48,850 You know, I don't want to think about life without him. 215 00:12:48,977 --> 00:12:50,018 Yeah. 216 00:12:51,605 --> 00:12:53,772 This whole ordeal... 217 00:12:53,899 --> 00:12:56,107 ...has just stressed him so much. 218 00:12:59,279 --> 00:13:01,362 Part of me thinks that it's this that caused the cancer. 219 00:13:22,552 --> 00:13:24,219 Hey, Ashley, Jason. Good to see y'all. 220 00:13:24,346 --> 00:13:25,470 Thanks for coming in. 221 00:13:25,597 --> 00:13:26,554 How are you? -Good. 222 00:13:27,265 --> 00:13:28,431 Y'all come on back. Follow me. 223 00:13:29,768 --> 00:13:32,018 I want to, spend some time 224 00:13:32,145 --> 00:13:33,812 going over all the evidence that they have against you 225 00:13:33,939 --> 00:13:36,064 which supports their allegations 226 00:13:36,191 --> 00:13:38,566 so that we can better defend against it. 227 00:13:38,693 --> 00:13:39,734 All right? 228 00:13:40,821 --> 00:13:42,946 One of the scariest items that's out there, Jason, 229 00:13:43,573 --> 00:13:45,156 is this one right here. 230 00:13:45,283 --> 00:13:47,742 Because it says that you have morphine in your blood. 231 00:13:50,539 --> 00:13:52,038 Anytime a juror hears 232 00:13:52,165 --> 00:13:53,289 that someone has something 233 00:13:53,416 --> 00:13:54,499 as powerful as morphine 234 00:13:54,626 --> 00:13:56,000 in his blood or her blood, 235 00:13:56,670 --> 00:13:57,794 that's something you don't want 236 00:13:57,921 --> 00:13:59,796 to have to defend against if you can help it. 237 00:14:01,007 --> 00:14:02,549 I had taken it the day before for my back. 238 00:14:02,676 --> 00:14:03,842 No, I understand that. 239 00:14:03,969 --> 00:14:05,927 But that is not a defense. 240 00:14:06,054 --> 00:14:07,136 It is illegal 241 00:14:07,764 --> 00:14:09,556 to drive a motor vehicle 242 00:14:09,683 --> 00:14:11,307 with morphine in one's blood 243 00:14:12,102 --> 00:14:15,311 if that means that you have lost the normal use 244 00:14:15,438 --> 00:14:18,231 of your mental or physical faculties. 245 00:14:18,358 --> 00:14:22,026 Do you have the prescription for the morphine, 246 00:14:22,153 --> 00:14:24,362 that you took the day before? 247 00:14:24,489 --> 00:14:25,864 It was probably... 248 00:14:25,991 --> 00:14:27,824 I'm sure the bottle was in my car. 249 00:14:27,951 --> 00:14:29,325 All right. That's just something 250 00:14:29,452 --> 00:14:30,910 we're gonna have to deal with. Okay? 251 00:14:32,122 --> 00:14:34,789 Now, the next big subject, of course, is the text messages. 252 00:14:36,334 --> 00:14:38,459 You understand that there's an allegation 253 00:14:38,587 --> 00:14:41,379 that you were on the phone for text messaging 254 00:14:41,506 --> 00:14:43,256 whenever this accident took place? 255 00:14:45,594 --> 00:14:48,720 The prosecution are going to take the position 256 00:14:48,847 --> 00:14:50,513 that you were using your phone 257 00:14:50,640 --> 00:14:52,181 whenever the accident happened. 258 00:14:53,476 --> 00:14:55,143 Do you know or remember anything 259 00:14:55,270 --> 00:14:57,103 that can help me understand the accident? 260 00:14:57,230 --> 00:14:58,938 No. I don't remember anything. 261 00:14:59,065 --> 00:15:00,189 Okay. 262 00:15:00,317 --> 00:15:02,817 Who's the first person you remember speaking to 263 00:15:02,944 --> 00:15:04,319 after the accident? 264 00:15:04,446 --> 00:15:08,323 I vaguely remember a trooper coming to the hospital. 265 00:15:08,450 --> 00:15:10,199 All right. This is a police surmise 266 00:15:10,327 --> 00:15:11,910 of who went to the hospital 267 00:15:12,037 --> 00:15:13,828 and interviewed you, I believe. 268 00:15:13,955 --> 00:15:16,372 And you said that you'd been on the phone earlier. 269 00:15:17,292 --> 00:15:20,418 Do you remember five, ten minutes before the accident? 270 00:15:21,755 --> 00:15:24,589 Just before getting on 71 I had received a text. 271 00:15:24,716 --> 00:15:26,883 It was a text from work. 272 00:15:27,010 --> 00:15:28,426 So I pulled over, 273 00:15:29,304 --> 00:15:31,930 sent a quick reply and then continued on. 274 00:15:32,807 --> 00:15:34,182 The chief officer on this case 275 00:15:34,309 --> 00:15:36,225 jumps to his conclusion 276 00:15:36,353 --> 00:15:38,186 that says that you must have been on your phone 277 00:15:38,313 --> 00:15:40,021 and texting and drifting 278 00:15:40,148 --> 00:15:41,314 into the opposite Lane. 279 00:15:43,902 --> 00:15:45,610 According to their expert, 280 00:15:45,737 --> 00:15:48,029 the accident occurred in this Lane. 281 00:15:48,156 --> 00:15:49,280 That means that 282 00:15:49,407 --> 00:15:51,115 you crossed over the mid line 283 00:15:51,242 --> 00:15:53,201 and had the accident with them. 284 00:15:56,373 --> 00:15:59,499 That's a bad fact if that's true, for US. Right? 285 00:16:00,710 --> 00:16:02,460 A bad accident took place, 286 00:16:02,587 --> 00:16:06,965 they think they may know possibly, could be how it happened. Okay? 287 00:16:07,092 --> 00:16:10,969 And maybe possibly you could have been on your cellphone. 288 00:16:11,096 --> 00:16:12,345 Possibly. 289 00:16:12,472 --> 00:16:14,722 That's a long way from beyond a reasonable doubt. 290 00:16:16,351 --> 00:16:18,434 Much of our case and much of our defense 291 00:16:18,561 --> 00:16:20,728 is going to be built around 292 00:16:20,855 --> 00:16:24,232 this is simply a car accident and nothing more. 293 00:16:26,403 --> 00:16:29,070 And so, we're all gonna go out to the crash site 294 00:16:29,197 --> 00:16:30,446 where all this took place. 295 00:16:31,825 --> 00:16:33,449 I know it's gonna be painful, Jason, 296 00:16:33,576 --> 00:16:35,827 but we absolutely need it 297 00:16:35,954 --> 00:16:37,203 to prepare for trial. 298 00:16:41,626 --> 00:16:42,625 Okay. 299 00:17:08,153 --> 00:17:09,861 As a defense attorney, you wanna go out, 300 00:17:09,988 --> 00:17:11,863 you wanna see the scene, walk the scene. 301 00:17:11,990 --> 00:17:14,490 And I want to see those gouges in the road. 302 00:17:15,118 --> 00:17:17,118 You wanna go out there and you wanna see 303 00:17:17,245 --> 00:17:18,786 what Jason saw 304 00:17:18,913 --> 00:17:21,497 and you wanna see what Roland and what Perry saw 305 00:17:21,624 --> 00:17:22,832 just before the accident. 306 00:17:22,959 --> 00:17:25,001 That cannot be overstated. 307 00:17:26,087 --> 00:17:28,713 I think that these officers may take for granted 308 00:17:29,382 --> 00:17:31,674 that we are just going to assume 309 00:17:31,801 --> 00:17:34,969 that their version of how this accident took place 310 00:17:35,472 --> 00:17:37,305 is gonna be the one that we go with. 311 00:17:37,432 --> 00:17:40,224 We are questioning every portion of this accident 312 00:17:41,061 --> 00:17:43,144 and the version of how this accident happened. 313 00:17:50,111 --> 00:17:51,360 Is this the spot? 314 00:17:52,739 --> 00:17:54,113 This is the spot. There's the area... Yeah. 315 00:17:57,494 --> 00:17:58,743 Their vehicle, the greaves' vehicle, 316 00:17:58,870 --> 00:17:59,952 would have been pointed right there. 317 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:01,871 There's the fence post right there. 318 00:18:05,210 --> 00:18:06,125 So... 319 00:18:07,504 --> 00:18:08,836 I'm gonna go take a look at it right away. 320 00:18:23,853 --> 00:18:25,269 This gouge right here, 321 00:18:25,396 --> 00:18:27,396 it's part of where the greaves' car landed 322 00:18:28,900 --> 00:18:30,441 and then Jason's car landed right over there 323 00:18:30,568 --> 00:18:31,692 up against that embankment. 324 00:18:35,448 --> 00:18:37,156 I think these two are door handles. 325 00:18:41,412 --> 00:18:43,412 And then there's stray pieces of trim... 326 00:18:46,292 --> 00:18:47,875 ...from Jason's car all over. 327 00:18:52,507 --> 00:18:54,340 That must have been one hell of a fire. 328 00:19:07,522 --> 00:19:08,896 It is a struggle to be here. 329 00:19:11,609 --> 00:19:12,692 For like, it's something that 330 00:19:12,819 --> 00:19:14,193 I'll live with for the rest of my life. 331 00:19:20,410 --> 00:19:23,077 Just knowing that it happened 332 00:19:23,204 --> 00:19:26,581 is enough to have to live with. 333 00:19:28,251 --> 00:19:29,625 And for anybody on either side. 334 00:19:36,509 --> 00:19:38,217 Come here. Come here. 335 00:20:01,951 --> 00:20:04,118 The jury is gonna wanna have an explanation 336 00:20:04,245 --> 00:20:06,370 as to why this accident took place. 337 00:20:07,081 --> 00:20:10,291 By getting here, I get a good understanding and idea 338 00:20:10,418 --> 00:20:11,667 of the layout, 339 00:20:11,794 --> 00:20:13,628 of the breaks in the road. 340 00:20:13,755 --> 00:20:15,004 For example, 341 00:20:15,131 --> 00:20:17,256 if you look at this vehicle coming up over here, 342 00:20:17,383 --> 00:20:19,592 you can't see the vehicle right now 343 00:20:19,719 --> 00:20:22,136 until it comes up over this curve right here. 344 00:20:23,932 --> 00:20:26,015 This is a blind hill. 345 00:20:26,142 --> 00:20:28,976 Meaning the drivers who were coming this way, the greaves, 346 00:20:29,646 --> 00:20:31,062 could not see up over that hill. 347 00:20:31,189 --> 00:20:32,855 To no fault of their own. 348 00:20:33,775 --> 00:20:36,275 But no one coming over that hill can see 349 00:20:36,402 --> 00:20:39,070 until, at 70 miles an hour, 350 00:20:39,197 --> 00:20:41,364 they meet with these folks who were coming off that turn, 351 00:20:41,491 --> 00:20:43,115 also at 70 miles an hour. 352 00:20:45,078 --> 00:20:46,869 You can see coming this direction, 353 00:20:46,996 --> 00:20:48,371 which is where Jason was coming, 354 00:20:48,498 --> 00:20:49,997 just how sharp that curve is. 355 00:20:52,961 --> 00:20:55,586 That is something I'm gonna have to convey to the jury 356 00:20:55,713 --> 00:20:59,048 that, "hey, this turn that Jason was coming out of 357 00:20:59,175 --> 00:21:00,758 "is a dangerous turn." 358 00:21:01,678 --> 00:21:03,552 Which can be an explanation 359 00:21:04,138 --> 00:21:06,472 to how Jason ended up in this oncoming Lane. 360 00:21:11,312 --> 00:21:15,022 This scene supports and gives US a defense 361 00:21:15,692 --> 00:21:18,693 as to why this accident would take place the way it did. 362 00:21:19,153 --> 00:21:20,528 Jason and the greaves were effectively 363 00:21:20,655 --> 00:21:23,072 headed at each other at 140 miles an hour 364 00:21:23,199 --> 00:21:24,991 that's not a lot of time to respond. 365 00:21:27,578 --> 00:21:29,036 And that's not a bad defense. 366 00:21:33,793 --> 00:21:36,002 If we can explain it to the jury in a simple way, 367 00:21:37,005 --> 00:21:38,379 the layout of this road, 368 00:21:39,507 --> 00:21:41,048 we'll have a fighting shot for Jason. 369 00:22:15,376 --> 00:22:17,710 What I'm looking at is the toxicology report. 370 00:22:18,755 --> 00:22:20,921 The results of his blood tests 371 00:22:21,049 --> 00:22:24,050 indicated that there was morphine in his blood. 372 00:22:24,886 --> 00:22:28,471 But it was less than 0.01 milligrams per liter. 373 00:22:28,598 --> 00:22:30,598 Which is almost next to nothing. 374 00:22:34,228 --> 00:22:36,896 Less than 0.01 milligrams per liter 375 00:22:37,523 --> 00:22:39,231 is not adequate 376 00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:42,693 to believe that a person lost the normal use 377 00:22:42,820 --> 00:22:45,363 of his or her mental or physical faculties. 378 00:22:45,490 --> 00:22:47,948 But it's something that we absolutely wanna defend against. 379 00:22:48,076 --> 00:22:50,451 We do not want to leave any stone unturned. 380 00:23:09,138 --> 00:23:11,055 If I were in Jason's shoes, 381 00:23:11,182 --> 00:23:12,973 and I had six kids and a wife, 382 00:23:14,060 --> 00:23:15,935 then I would do anything and everything I could 383 00:23:16,062 --> 00:23:17,937 to avoid the uncertainly of a jury trial. 384 00:23:19,941 --> 00:23:21,190 With a plea bargain, 385 00:23:21,317 --> 00:23:23,609 you know exactly how your case is gonna end. 386 00:23:25,029 --> 00:23:27,822 With a jury trial, you have absolutely no idea 387 00:23:27,949 --> 00:23:29,824 if you're gonna be a convicted felon 388 00:23:29,951 --> 00:23:32,660 or if you're gonna go to prison for the next 20 years. 389 00:23:38,167 --> 00:23:41,168 The best hope would be to get there and something comes up 390 00:23:42,463 --> 00:23:44,088 and it just goes away. 391 00:23:44,674 --> 00:23:47,466 You know, where they put a deal on the table 392 00:23:47,593 --> 00:23:49,218 that just really can't be passed up. 393 00:23:50,012 --> 00:23:52,388 Um, expect the worst, hope for the best. 394 00:23:55,601 --> 00:23:56,809 Hey, Austin. 395 00:23:58,229 --> 00:23:59,645 How you doing? How you holding up? 396 00:24:01,190 --> 00:24:02,690 Hi. Hey, mom. Doing okay? 397 00:24:04,444 --> 00:24:06,735 We just have to wait to see what the outcome's gonna be. 398 00:24:07,572 --> 00:24:09,905 It's a lose-lose situation for both families. 399 00:24:11,033 --> 00:24:14,118 It won't make them feel better. 400 00:24:14,245 --> 00:24:16,829 And it definitely hurts US. 401 00:24:17,623 --> 00:24:18,789 You know, as a mother, 402 00:24:18,916 --> 00:24:20,332 no matter how old your children are, 403 00:24:20,460 --> 00:24:21,876 you still hurt when they hurt. 404 00:24:23,212 --> 00:24:24,545 Let's get this over with. 405 00:24:43,649 --> 00:24:44,690 Well, the only offer 406 00:24:44,817 --> 00:24:46,066 that the prosecution is making 407 00:24:46,194 --> 00:24:47,318 was prison time. 408 00:24:47,445 --> 00:24:49,028 We didn't really negotiate the numbers 409 00:24:49,155 --> 00:24:50,821 because Jason and I weren't receptive 410 00:24:50,948 --> 00:24:52,656 to any type of prison time. 411 00:24:52,783 --> 00:24:54,283 Even if it was something minimal. 412 00:24:55,036 --> 00:24:57,244 And the greaves family will only agree to prison time. 413 00:24:57,747 --> 00:24:59,038 That's my understanding. 414 00:24:59,165 --> 00:25:00,998 And it's just not something we can agree to. 415 00:25:01,125 --> 00:25:03,667 And so, our only other option is to go to a jury trial, 416 00:25:03,794 --> 00:25:04,960 which is where we're headed. 417 00:25:15,431 --> 00:25:18,891 The police accused Jason of crossing the line. 418 00:25:19,018 --> 00:25:21,227 And the reason they say he crossed the line 419 00:25:21,354 --> 00:25:23,062 is because he was using his cellphone. 420 00:25:27,735 --> 00:25:29,568 Law enforcement and the district attorney's office 421 00:25:29,695 --> 00:25:32,738 have subpoenaed Jason's phone records 422 00:25:32,865 --> 00:25:34,823 to try to get an idea if it is something 423 00:25:34,951 --> 00:25:36,659 that they, meaning law enforcement, 424 00:25:36,786 --> 00:25:38,786 can prove, um, 425 00:25:38,913 --> 00:25:40,996 that being whether or not Jason used his cellphone 426 00:25:41,123 --> 00:25:42,706 when the accident took place. 427 00:25:43,918 --> 00:25:46,335 Yes, he was honest that he had used his cellphone 428 00:25:46,462 --> 00:25:48,212 prior to the accident, 429 00:25:48,339 --> 00:25:50,965 but the prosecution must prove that he was reckless 430 00:26:13,197 --> 00:26:15,155 Hey, Jason. Hey, Austin. 431 00:26:15,283 --> 00:26:16,365 Good to see you. Thanks for making the trip. 432 00:26:16,492 --> 00:26:17,491 How are you, man? 433 00:26:17,618 --> 00:26:18,659 Good. Sit with me. 434 00:26:21,372 --> 00:26:23,872 Here is what I wanna do today. Okay? 435 00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:26,166 I wanna help build a timeline 436 00:26:26,294 --> 00:26:27,793 just before the accident. 437 00:26:29,171 --> 00:26:31,589 Because the few minutes before the accident, 438 00:26:32,216 --> 00:26:34,300 the entire case live and dies right there. 439 00:26:34,802 --> 00:26:36,927 We have got to attack this position 440 00:26:37,054 --> 00:26:38,387 taken by the police 441 00:26:38,514 --> 00:26:40,764 that you were on a cellphone 442 00:26:40,891 --> 00:26:41,890 when the accident took place. 443 00:26:42,018 --> 00:26:44,643 So, let's see 444 00:26:44,770 --> 00:26:46,812 what the at&t records show from your phone. 445 00:26:49,191 --> 00:26:51,650 This is the last phone call you made before the accident. 446 00:26:52,153 --> 00:26:54,737 About 37 minutes 447 00:26:56,699 --> 00:26:59,033 before the accident took place. 448 00:27:00,411 --> 00:27:01,785 You with me? 449 00:27:01,912 --> 00:27:04,496 Well, this was a two minute and ten second phone call 450 00:27:04,624 --> 00:27:05,831 and clearly, you were not on the phone 451 00:27:05,958 --> 00:27:07,249 whenever the accident took place 452 00:27:07,376 --> 00:27:08,751 as far as talking. 453 00:27:09,837 --> 00:27:12,880 Right. Now, let's go into text messages 454 00:27:13,007 --> 00:27:14,298 just before the accident. 455 00:27:14,425 --> 00:27:17,593 So we're looking at something just before 3:18. 456 00:27:21,182 --> 00:27:25,059 Nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing. 457 00:27:25,186 --> 00:27:28,604 Where is the text message you sent to your employee 458 00:27:29,732 --> 00:27:31,523 two minutes before the accident happened? 459 00:27:33,611 --> 00:27:35,235 Know what I mean? Yeah. 460 00:27:37,031 --> 00:27:40,574 Everything... The whole accident... I... 461 00:27:43,329 --> 00:27:45,079 I wish I had a clearer recollection of everything. 462 00:27:45,206 --> 00:27:46,246 Okay. 463 00:27:49,335 --> 00:27:51,460 If you were in the middle of a text message, 464 00:27:51,587 --> 00:27:53,170 and had a car accident, 465 00:27:53,297 --> 00:27:55,381 well then, it stands to reason that 466 00:27:55,508 --> 00:27:58,967 that text message will be half sent. 467 00:27:59,095 --> 00:28:00,260 That's correct. Okay. 468 00:28:00,971 --> 00:28:03,889 And so, if the police thought 469 00:28:04,016 --> 00:28:06,975 that you were texting whenever this happened, 470 00:28:07,561 --> 00:28:08,936 why didn't they get your cellphone? 471 00:28:12,608 --> 00:28:13,941 That is their oversight. 472 00:28:14,068 --> 00:28:15,234 Yes. Yes? 473 00:28:15,778 --> 00:28:17,986 Not your mistake. 474 00:28:18,114 --> 00:28:19,822 Understand? 475 00:28:21,283 --> 00:28:23,951 Where's the phone right now that you had that day? 476 00:28:24,328 --> 00:28:25,661 That phone was... 477 00:28:25,788 --> 00:28:27,496 I'd given it to my... 'Cause I got a new phone. 478 00:28:27,623 --> 00:28:29,373 And so I gave that phone to my son. 479 00:28:29,500 --> 00:28:32,334 I mean, it was completely erased 480 00:28:32,461 --> 00:28:34,128 and made new for him. Okay. 481 00:28:34,630 --> 00:28:35,921 Now this is important. 482 00:28:36,048 --> 00:28:39,133 How did the phone survive that fire? 483 00:28:40,594 --> 00:28:41,677 Do you know? 484 00:28:41,804 --> 00:28:44,012 It was probably I had... maybe... 485 00:28:44,432 --> 00:28:45,597 Weren't like that if I had it in my pocket. 486 00:28:47,059 --> 00:28:48,142 Good. 487 00:28:49,103 --> 00:28:50,227 Do you remember that? 488 00:28:51,063 --> 00:28:52,020 That's the only way it could have 489 00:28:52,148 --> 00:28:53,564 made it out of the vehicle. 490 00:28:53,691 --> 00:28:55,190 Okay. If the phone's in my pocket, 491 00:28:55,609 --> 00:28:58,152 then chances are 492 00:28:58,279 --> 00:29:00,863 it was in my pocket the entire time I was driving. 493 00:29:01,949 --> 00:29:02,948 You with me? 494 00:29:03,075 --> 00:29:05,242 'Cause it that phone was in your pocket 495 00:29:05,369 --> 00:29:07,035 whenever you were pulled out of that car, 496 00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:10,539 the likelihood of you being on it 497 00:29:13,002 --> 00:29:14,126 while you were driving, 498 00:29:14,253 --> 00:29:15,836 text message, that thing goes down. 499 00:29:25,723 --> 00:29:28,307 Winning and losing hinges on 500 00:29:28,434 --> 00:29:30,851 whether or not Jason was using his cellphone. 501 00:29:31,812 --> 00:29:33,604 The only evidence that 502 00:29:33,731 --> 00:29:35,773 Jason had anything to do with his phone 503 00:29:35,900 --> 00:29:37,858 was Jason's statement 504 00:29:37,985 --> 00:29:39,860 that, "I was on the phone 505 00:29:39,987 --> 00:29:41,361 "a few minutes before the accident." 506 00:29:43,032 --> 00:29:45,282 Now we have to get the jury to buy into this idea 507 00:29:45,409 --> 00:29:46,909 that Jason made this statement 508 00:29:47,036 --> 00:29:49,203 about being on the phone 509 00:29:49,330 --> 00:29:52,080 while he was under this extremely traumatic situation, 510 00:29:52,666 --> 00:29:54,416 and that was just some memory 511 00:29:54,543 --> 00:29:56,043 that was floating around in his head 512 00:29:56,170 --> 00:29:58,212 that came out when being questioned by law enforcement. 513 00:30:01,133 --> 00:30:04,051 So, if the prosecution can't prove what happened, 514 00:30:04,178 --> 00:30:06,011 okay, our position is 515 00:30:06,138 --> 00:30:08,722 they didn't overcome their burden of proof, 516 00:30:09,266 --> 00:30:11,058 so Jason's not guilty. 517 00:30:35,084 --> 00:30:37,751 We received pictures of Perry greaves in the hospital. 518 00:30:44,260 --> 00:30:45,759 This member of his family 519 00:30:46,762 --> 00:30:48,929 took these and provided them to the prosecution 520 00:30:49,056 --> 00:30:52,099 to give the district attorney an idea of how Perry's doing. 521 00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:58,480 You can't help but feel for this man. 522 00:30:59,149 --> 00:31:01,275 He appears to be in a vegetative state. 523 00:31:02,862 --> 00:31:04,486 I can see why they want Jason to go to prison. 524 00:31:07,032 --> 00:31:08,991 I mean, regardless of guilt or innocence. 525 00:31:12,037 --> 00:31:13,620 I mean, look what they did to this guy. 526 00:31:14,874 --> 00:31:16,164 He's not getting any better. 527 00:31:21,213 --> 00:31:23,297 I cannot imagine the prosecution 528 00:31:25,342 --> 00:31:27,009 hearing from the victim's family 529 00:31:27,136 --> 00:31:28,969 that they would be okay 530 00:31:29,096 --> 00:31:31,263 or consent to probation for Jason. 531 00:31:32,099 --> 00:31:33,473 Specially given these new pictures. 532 00:31:37,771 --> 00:31:40,105 There are going to be people out there who say, 533 00:31:40,232 --> 00:31:41,857 "those pictures are terrible. 534 00:31:42,693 --> 00:31:44,693 "We gotta hold somebody criminally responsible." 535 00:32:01,170 --> 00:32:04,338 All right, Jason, will you have this woman to be your wife? 536 00:32:04,924 --> 00:32:07,174 To live together in holy covenant of marriage? 537 00:32:07,301 --> 00:32:09,134 Will you love her, comfort her, 538 00:32:09,261 --> 00:32:11,470 honor and keep her in sickness and in health... 539 00:32:12,765 --> 00:32:15,641 If we weren't meant to work out, 540 00:32:15,768 --> 00:32:16,850 this would tear US apart. 541 00:32:20,064 --> 00:32:21,897 I can only see what I'm going through 542 00:32:22,483 --> 00:32:24,024 through my perspective. 543 00:32:24,693 --> 00:32:27,152 I can't imagine how hard it is 544 00:32:27,279 --> 00:32:29,529 to go through it from her perspective as well. 545 00:32:29,907 --> 00:32:33,325 Knowing and feeling and seeing it 546 00:32:33,452 --> 00:32:35,619 through her eyes and her feelings. 547 00:32:35,746 --> 00:32:36,703 Um... 548 00:32:37,247 --> 00:32:39,039 I'm not going anywhere. 549 00:32:39,166 --> 00:32:41,708 Like, we're in this together for the long haul. 550 00:32:42,795 --> 00:32:44,586 I don't know where I would be 551 00:32:44,713 --> 00:32:45,754 right now without her, honestly. 552 00:32:45,881 --> 00:32:47,172 I don't know where. 553 00:32:47,299 --> 00:32:48,966 ...together in holy covenant of marriage? 554 00:32:49,093 --> 00:32:50,384 Will you love him, comfort him, 555 00:32:50,511 --> 00:32:52,761 honor and keep him in sickness and in health 556 00:32:53,597 --> 00:32:55,472 and be faithful to him for as long as you both shall live? 557 00:32:55,599 --> 00:32:57,432 If so, say, "I will." I will. 558 00:32:57,559 --> 00:32:58,642 All right. 559 00:33:11,949 --> 00:33:13,615 This case is about emotion. 560 00:33:16,495 --> 00:33:19,955 What's important is the legal aspect 561 00:33:20,082 --> 00:33:23,208 versus the human aspect in a case like this. 562 00:33:23,919 --> 00:33:26,878 You have got to address that emotion 563 00:33:27,006 --> 00:33:29,464 that is going to be in the jury box from the beginning. 564 00:33:35,931 --> 00:33:38,056 Couple of things I wanna talk about with you. Okay? 565 00:33:38,183 --> 00:33:40,350 The prosecution is going to 566 00:33:40,477 --> 00:33:42,519 read the indictment. 567 00:33:43,105 --> 00:33:46,189 Then the judge will turn and look at you, okay, 568 00:33:46,316 --> 00:33:47,566 and look at you and say, 569 00:33:47,693 --> 00:33:49,776 "Mr. Mccombs, how do you plead?" 570 00:33:49,903 --> 00:33:51,028 Right? 571 00:33:51,155 --> 00:33:53,864 That is a very, very important time. 572 00:33:53,991 --> 00:33:56,742 So, you say, you know, very simple, and say, 573 00:33:56,869 --> 00:33:59,411 "not guilty, your honor." Okay? 574 00:34:00,330 --> 00:34:02,205 But there's a wrong way to do it and there's a right way. 575 00:34:02,332 --> 00:34:04,207 And it's not, "not guilty, your honor." 576 00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:06,460 Okay? It's not, "not guilty, your honor." 577 00:34:06,587 --> 00:34:08,336 That's not it. Okay? 578 00:34:08,464 --> 00:34:10,881 Frankly, we don't care what the judge thinks. 579 00:34:11,383 --> 00:34:13,884 You talk to that jury. Okay? 580 00:34:14,011 --> 00:34:16,094 That's why we talk to, is the jury. 581 00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:19,097 It's, "not guilty, your honor," 582 00:34:19,224 --> 00:34:21,016 like it's true. 583 00:34:21,143 --> 00:34:22,893 I'm saying, "not guilty, your honor," but I'm looking at the jury? 584 00:34:23,020 --> 00:34:24,352 You look at that jury. 585 00:34:26,398 --> 00:34:29,149 We will say it one time, we get one shot at it. 586 00:34:29,276 --> 00:34:31,443 Okay? And it's very, very important. 587 00:34:32,362 --> 00:34:34,571 I know. It's important. Okay? 588 00:34:34,698 --> 00:34:35,989 That make sense? 589 00:34:36,116 --> 00:34:39,576 All right. You, Jason, have the option to testify. 590 00:34:39,703 --> 00:34:41,536 You cannot be compelled to testify 591 00:34:41,663 --> 00:34:43,205 and I can't stop you. Okay? 592 00:34:43,332 --> 00:34:45,082 And I can't tell you to. That's your option. 593 00:34:45,209 --> 00:34:47,667 That's one of the few things 594 00:34:47,795 --> 00:34:51,004 that you are the Alpha and the omega of. Okay? 595 00:34:53,092 --> 00:34:55,467 Ultimately, I don't think we're gonna put you on the witness stand 596 00:34:55,594 --> 00:34:57,677 unless you absolutely want to. 597 00:34:57,805 --> 00:34:58,970 What do you think? 598 00:35:00,432 --> 00:35:02,224 I don't know. 599 00:35:02,351 --> 00:35:03,350 Honestly, I don't know. 600 00:35:03,477 --> 00:35:04,976 Well, it's one of those... 601 00:35:05,104 --> 00:35:06,812 You can always make a game time decision. 602 00:35:07,981 --> 00:35:10,315 All right? My suggestion is that you don't. 603 00:35:10,442 --> 00:35:11,942 All right? That's my advice. 604 00:35:12,611 --> 00:35:13,985 I don't... If you were me what would you do? 605 00:35:14,113 --> 00:35:15,737 I would not testify. 606 00:35:15,864 --> 00:35:17,239 Not in this particular case. 607 00:35:17,366 --> 00:35:19,157 You don't think it will come across badly to the jury 608 00:35:19,284 --> 00:35:21,076 if I'm not up there? No. 609 00:35:21,203 --> 00:35:23,703 You know, the fifth amendment, the election not to testify. 610 00:35:23,831 --> 00:35:25,288 You cannot be compelled 611 00:35:25,415 --> 00:35:27,332 to provide evidence against yourself, 612 00:35:27,459 --> 00:35:29,417 meaning, called as witness against yourself. 613 00:35:29,545 --> 00:35:31,503 It's unconstitutional. Okay? 614 00:35:31,630 --> 00:35:33,046 Your election not to testify 615 00:35:33,173 --> 00:35:35,423 will not cut either way. 616 00:35:45,561 --> 00:35:47,727 Logan, Dillon, come downstairs and eat. 617 00:35:48,063 --> 00:35:48,937 Food's ready. 618 00:35:58,782 --> 00:36:00,115 Dear father, we just want to thank you 619 00:36:00,242 --> 00:36:01,366 for the time you've given US 620 00:36:01,493 --> 00:36:02,659 this weekend with our families. 621 00:36:02,786 --> 00:36:04,828 We ask that you take this food 622 00:36:04,955 --> 00:36:07,289 and bless it to our bodies as we bless our bodies to your service. 623 00:36:07,416 --> 00:36:08,957 In your name we pray. Amen. 624 00:36:09,084 --> 00:36:10,208 Amen. 625 00:36:11,670 --> 00:36:14,421 For me, the worst case scenario 626 00:36:16,508 --> 00:36:19,009 is that I end up going to prison 627 00:36:19,136 --> 00:36:21,178 for something that was an accident. 628 00:36:21,305 --> 00:36:22,762 And... 629 00:36:24,391 --> 00:36:25,765 And I miss my kids. 630 00:36:30,022 --> 00:36:31,021 My dad's sick. 631 00:36:31,148 --> 00:36:32,147 I don't know how much longer he has. 632 00:36:36,778 --> 00:36:38,904 And to think about that... 633 00:36:41,366 --> 00:36:42,616 ...is so scary. 634 00:37:02,054 --> 00:37:04,221 I know Jason is terrified. 635 00:37:04,348 --> 00:37:06,139 I'm sure I would feel the same way 636 00:37:06,266 --> 00:37:08,141 if I was faced with something like this. 637 00:37:16,109 --> 00:37:18,401 I can't tell you exactly what the jury's gonna do. 638 00:37:20,030 --> 00:37:21,488 I think anybody who tells you 639 00:37:21,615 --> 00:37:23,531 that they know what a jury's gonna do 640 00:37:24,117 --> 00:37:25,492 hasn't tried winning jury trials. 641 00:37:38,548 --> 00:37:39,965 We made some good points 642 00:37:40,092 --> 00:37:42,509 with some of the officers who testified. 643 00:37:42,636 --> 00:37:45,053 We also talked about the cellphone records. 644 00:37:45,180 --> 00:37:46,429 And we're happy to bring out 645 00:37:46,556 --> 00:37:48,223 that, there's really no proof 646 00:37:48,350 --> 00:37:50,016 that Jason was on his phone. 647 00:37:58,527 --> 00:38:00,068 It's a scary day. 648 00:38:00,195 --> 00:38:04,155 Mrs. Greaves, who is the wife of Perry, the survivor, 649 00:38:04,700 --> 00:38:07,158 she did a very good job and she was very emotional. 650 00:38:07,869 --> 00:38:09,869 I think that's why the state put Mrs. Greaves on last. 651 00:38:09,997 --> 00:38:13,206 It was a smart move, which we had to respond to. 652 00:38:13,709 --> 00:38:15,917 We had to put some time between 653 00:38:16,044 --> 00:38:18,128 when her testimony ended 654 00:38:18,255 --> 00:38:19,963 and the jury began to deliberate. 655 00:38:20,090 --> 00:38:22,007 And so, going back and forth, 656 00:38:22,134 --> 00:38:23,758 I just made the game time decision 657 00:38:23,885 --> 00:38:25,635 that the jury, I think, 658 00:38:25,762 --> 00:38:27,345 probably wanted to hear from Jason. 659 00:38:27,848 --> 00:38:28,930 And he got up there and he told the truth 660 00:38:29,057 --> 00:38:30,432 and he did awesome. 661 00:38:30,559 --> 00:38:32,100 He was emotional 662 00:38:32,561 --> 00:38:33,977 and made me little emotional 663 00:38:34,104 --> 00:38:36,187 and one of the jurors, one of them... 664 00:38:36,315 --> 00:38:38,690 One of the male jurors was actually crying with Jason. 665 00:38:40,277 --> 00:38:43,111 I think it was a wise decision. Although, you never know. 666 00:38:48,660 --> 00:38:50,285 It's very scary for Jason. 667 00:38:51,580 --> 00:38:52,662 This may be the last time 668 00:38:52,789 --> 00:38:55,832 he spends a night in his own bed, 669 00:38:55,959 --> 00:38:57,459 in the house with his own family. 670 00:39:00,047 --> 00:39:02,130 This may be the last time he ever sees his dad. 671 00:39:02,257 --> 00:39:04,299 'Cause if he goes to prison, then there's a very good chance 672 00:39:04,426 --> 00:39:07,052 that he won't ever shake his dad's hand again. 673 00:39:14,061 --> 00:39:18,396 I couldn't fathom being denied my family. 674 00:39:20,609 --> 00:39:22,442 I couldn't imagine. I couldn't imagine that. 675 00:39:22,569 --> 00:39:23,860 I couldn't. 676 00:39:24,571 --> 00:39:25,945 I don't want to imagine that. 677 00:40:03,026 --> 00:40:04,609 We just did closing arguments. 678 00:40:04,736 --> 00:40:07,112 Um, I got to talk for about 15 minutes. 679 00:40:08,240 --> 00:40:10,240 Frankly, I could've spoken for much more. 680 00:40:10,367 --> 00:40:12,075 I asked for more from the judge, 681 00:40:12,202 --> 00:40:13,284 but it wasn't given to me. 682 00:40:14,162 --> 00:40:16,371 Um, now we wait. 683 00:40:22,129 --> 00:40:26,005 For the defense, you want the jury to be out as long as possible. 684 00:40:26,133 --> 00:40:28,007 It means that they're discussing the issues. 685 00:40:28,135 --> 00:40:30,969 It means that they're discussing beyond a reasonable doubt 686 00:40:31,096 --> 00:40:32,554 and looking at the evidence. 687 00:40:33,056 --> 00:40:34,639 Um, if they come back quickly, 688 00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:38,726 usually, less than an hour, an hour and a half, 689 00:40:38,854 --> 00:40:41,271 it usually doesn't bode well for the defense. 690 00:40:42,357 --> 00:40:44,732 So we want them out as long as possible. 691 00:41:23,398 --> 00:41:24,856 I can't thank you enough, man. 692 00:41:29,446 --> 00:41:31,237 You're beautiful. 693 00:41:31,364 --> 00:41:33,573 We got a not guilty on all counts. 694 00:41:34,409 --> 00:41:36,242 And so we are ecstatic. 695 00:41:42,584 --> 00:41:43,833 I'm proud of you. 696 00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:45,919 Now we can shift our focus off of me to you. 697 00:41:47,506 --> 00:41:49,672 I... I'm just happy that you're... 698 00:41:49,799 --> 00:41:51,633 I know. I don't care about me. 699 00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:53,551 Well, we all do. So... 700 00:41:53,678 --> 00:41:54,719 Well... 701 00:41:57,766 --> 00:41:59,599 You're my baby. My baby. 702 00:42:01,937 --> 00:42:02,894 I... I feel like 703 00:42:04,523 --> 00:42:06,689 mount Everest has just been taken off my back. 704 00:42:06,983 --> 00:42:09,359 I haven't felt this way in... 705 00:42:10,612 --> 00:42:11,736 Since all this 706 00:42:12,906 --> 00:42:14,197 trial stuff started since the arrest. 707 00:42:16,159 --> 00:42:17,909 Putting your life or your outcome 708 00:42:18,036 --> 00:42:20,745 into 12 people... Twelve strangers' hands 709 00:42:21,790 --> 00:42:23,748 is the most terrifying thing 710 00:42:24,626 --> 00:42:26,584 anybody can ever go through. 711 00:42:28,088 --> 00:42:30,421 By god's grace, I'll never have to go through that again, 712 00:42:33,468 --> 00:42:35,009 can I get my husband? 55323

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