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A loved one of theirs was lost.
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They feel somebody needs to pay for that.
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Worst case scenario,
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I end up going to prison.
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This whole thing is a bad nightmare.
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You just expect to wake up from it.
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Then you realize you are awake.
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My client, Mr. Mccombs,
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is accused of crossing over the double yellow line
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and causing a head-on collision.
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I'm just taking a look
at a few photos to see
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exactly how violent
this car accident was.
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Roland and Perry greaves
were the men in this car.
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Jason was travelling
east on 71
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and the greaves
were travelling west.
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Jason is accused
of going over the line
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and having
a head-on collision.
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You can see some
of the skid marks right here
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where it looks like
the greaves came across
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into Jason's Lane,
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trying to avoid
this accident.
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The greaves spun around,
best we can tell,
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and stayed, actually,
in the road.
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Jason's vehicle
then comes to stop
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in the bar ditch,
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catches fire,
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and some innocent
bystanders came by
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and pulled Jason
out of his vehicle.
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Roland and Perry, father and son.
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Roland was killed
at the scene.
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He was about 80 years old.
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And then,
Perry is still alive today,
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but he's hurt very bad,
I believe.
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This was a car accident, not a crime.
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I don't want this to be the precedent
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that someone gets in a car accident, someone gets hurt,
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and therefore, some otherwise innocent person
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gets charged with a felony such as manslaughter,
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It terrifies me that these are the kind of events
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that cause people
to get charged
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and have to go
to jury trials
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and literally fight
for their lives.
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I'm the sole supporter, I'm the sole provider.
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After the accident, I,
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lost my job
as, executive director
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for the health care company
I worked at.
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A few people where I worked
knew about the accident and...
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I don't know what they knew,
but they knew enough.
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So...
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Things just...
You know, I can't...
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I can't prove it
and I don't dwell on it.
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You know, obviously, I've got a family to support.
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I needed to do some work, I needed to make money,
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so I, started working for a roofing company
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as a general contractor.
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I'm working, yeah, really hard right now
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to build things up.
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And my wife, if things do take a turn,
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I've got her.
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Kind of knowledgeable enough
where she can take over
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some of my stuff
that I have going on.
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She can step right in
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and that way, at least that money that I have built up,
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she can have some sort of an income.
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It is what it is.
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I just pray and pray
and pray and pray and hope that
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that's not
what it comes down to.
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Together, Jason and I
have six kids.
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Jason's a very hands-on father.
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He's the kindest person that you'll ever meet.
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He's very funny,
very laid back
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and goofy,
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he listens.
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Which you don't come across
very often anymore.
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So right now,
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I'm on my way
to go to my attorney's office.
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He wants to go over
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some of the charges
that have been
brought against me
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in my indictment.
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The other family,
all they know is that
there was an accident,
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a loved one of theirs
was lost.
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And so,
for whatever reason,
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they feel somebody needs
to pay for that.
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Be it accident or not.
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I mean, an accident's
an accident.
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And as much
as you would want
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some type of closure from it,
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somebody to blame,
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it's not always that easy.
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I don't know how
I would react
on the other side.
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We're not in their position,
we're not in that spot.
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We don't understand
what they're going though.
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Okay, Jason, I think
a good place to start
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for now is to go
over the indictment.
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Okay?
Okay.
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What they have
to prove against you
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is that you recklessly
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caused the death
of an individual.
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Specifically Roland greaves.
Okay?
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Basically,
what they're saying
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is you were inattentive
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and thereby
caused the accident.
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All righty?
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There's four ways
that they can
prove this allegation.
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Way number one
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is they prove
that you failed
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to drive in a single Lane
of traffic. Okay?
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Or that you drove a car
into the Lane of traffic
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operated by
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a motor vehicle
transporting Roland greaves.
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Okay?
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Or that you failed
to keep a proper lookout.
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Or that you failed to maintain
control of your motor vehicle.
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And one of those four actions
caused an accident
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which,
took Roland's life. Okay?
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It is not illegal,
meaning criminal,
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in the state of Texas
to have a car accident.
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Okay?
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It is illegal
to do so recklessly.
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All right?
What do my outcomes
look like?
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What is... what does
the end of this look like?
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Sure. Well,
there's only one
of a few ways
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that a jury trial
can end.
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Way number one
is that we get a not guilty,
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and everybody goes home
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and this is
a bad memory.
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Way number two
is that we get a guilty.
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And if we get a guilty,
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then we go to
phase number two
of the jury trial
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which is punishment.
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Let's talk about this
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'cause this is
the scariest one.
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Each one of the counts
against you, Jason,
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has a punishment range
from probation
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between two
and ten years
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or two to 20 years
in prison.
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If the jury
were to come back
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and put you
in prison,
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then they would
pick a number.
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Somewhere between
two and 20 years.
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It's always scary...
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...having potential
prison sentence out there.
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That's terrifying.
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There's nothing
I can do or say
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that can take
that anxiety from you
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or your wife.
Okay?
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Going forward,
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we need to start
preparing for the worst
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and hoping for the best.
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It... it's the stuff you don't want to hear.
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There's no putting it aside when you hear it like that.
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I'm...
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I punish myself enough
for what happened
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because it was an accident.
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It happened.
I can't change that.
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Now it feel like
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I'm being
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judged and ruled
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for something
that was just what it was.
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It was an accident.
And there's...
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It...
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Whatever a jury does to him,
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I don't know if it'll be more than what
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his conscience has already done.
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This weighs on him
every single day.
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Um, just praying for the, family.
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I can't even fathom what they've gone through.
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It's so tragic and devastating.
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With our house
of friggin' sports team,
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it takes a lot of food.
-Yeah.
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A lot of times, goofing off with my family,
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I do my best
to shield them from this.
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This is not something that I wanna put them though.
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Hey.
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I got a monster
on my back.
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If I didn't have my family,
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I couldn't say where I'd be right now.
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What's at stake is our...
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Our family
being pulled apart.
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And it's very difficult
to process.
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Though I just try
not to let myself go there.
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To be accused feels unfair.
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First thing that comes to my mind
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when I think of a criminal
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is a thief, murderers.
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I think of people that are intentionally hurting someone
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or taking something from someone,
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and something that my father worked years for
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to protect people from.
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He served 28 years on the San Antonio police department
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before he retired.
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Having a spell?
Yeah.
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I'm sorry, guys, i'm...
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You okay?
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I wish Wayne was able
'cause he's done,
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over the years,
hundreds and hundreds
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of, reports
on car accidents
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before he got sick.
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He went to the crash site,did all the measurements there,
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found all the skid marks,
everything.
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And he came to me and said,
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"I don't think
they can prove either way."
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He said, "I don't think
we'll ever know.
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"If the other person went over or if Jason went over."
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So...
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It's just a terrific accident
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that both families will never
completely recover from.
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He was a handful.
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We had to give you
a run for your money.
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Hell, yep. Yeah.
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You know, I chased criminals,
it didn't bother me.
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Boy, but chasing him...
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He's been my best friend my whole life.
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You know, I don't want to think about life without him.
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Yeah.
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This whole ordeal...
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...has just stressed him so much.
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Part of me thinks that it's this that caused the cancer.
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Hey, Ashley, Jason. Good to see y'all.
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Thanks for coming in.
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How are you?
-Good.
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Y'all come on back.
Follow me.
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I want to,
spend some time
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going over all the evidence
that they have against you
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which supports
their allegations
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so that we can better
defend against it.
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All right?
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One of the scariest items
that's out there, Jason,
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is this one right here.
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Because it says that
you have morphine
in your blood.
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Anytime a juror hears
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that someone
has something
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as powerful
as morphine
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in his blood
or her blood,
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that's something
you don't want
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to have to defend against
if you can help it.
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I had taken it
the day before
for my back.
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No,
I understand that.
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But that is not
a defense.
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It is illegal
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to drive a motor vehicle
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with morphine
in one's blood
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if that means that
you have lost the normal use
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of your mental
or physical faculties.
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Do you have
the prescription
for the morphine,
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that you took
the day before?
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It was probably...
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I'm sure the bottle
was in my car.
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All right.
That's just something
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we're gonna have
to deal with. Okay?
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Now, the next big subject,
of course,
is the text messages.
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You understand that
there's an allegation
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that you were on the phone
for text messaging
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whenever this accident
took place?
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The prosecution are
going to take the position
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that you were
using your phone
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whenever the accident
happened.
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Do you know
or remember anything
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that can help me
understand the accident?
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00:14:57,230 --> 00:14:58,938
No. I don't
remember anything.
261
00:14:59,065 --> 00:15:00,189
Okay.
262
00:15:00,317 --> 00:15:02,817
Who's the first person
you remember speaking to
263
00:15:02,944 --> 00:15:04,319
after the accident?
264
00:15:04,446 --> 00:15:08,323
I vaguely remember
a trooper coming
to the hospital.
265
00:15:08,450 --> 00:15:10,199
All right.
This is a police surmise
266
00:15:10,327 --> 00:15:11,910
of who went to the hospital
267
00:15:12,037 --> 00:15:13,828
and interviewed you,
I believe.
268
00:15:13,955 --> 00:15:16,372
And you said that
you'd been
on the phone earlier.
269
00:15:17,292 --> 00:15:20,418
Do you remember
five, ten minutes
before the accident?
270
00:15:21,755 --> 00:15:24,589
Just before getting on 71
I had received a text.
271
00:15:24,716 --> 00:15:26,883
It was a text
from work.
272
00:15:27,010 --> 00:15:28,426
So I pulled over,
273
00:15:29,304 --> 00:15:31,930
sent a quick reply
and then continued on.
274
00:15:32,807 --> 00:15:34,182
The chief officer
on this case
275
00:15:34,309 --> 00:15:36,225
jumps to his conclusion
276
00:15:36,353 --> 00:15:38,186
that says that you must have
been on your phone
277
00:15:38,313 --> 00:15:40,021
and texting and drifting
278
00:15:40,148 --> 00:15:41,314
into the opposite Lane.
279
00:15:43,902 --> 00:15:45,610
According to their expert,
280
00:15:45,737 --> 00:15:48,029
the accident occurred
in this Lane.
281
00:15:48,156 --> 00:15:49,280
That means that
282
00:15:49,407 --> 00:15:51,115
you crossed over
the mid line
283
00:15:51,242 --> 00:15:53,201
and had the accident
with them.
284
00:15:56,373 --> 00:15:59,499
That's a bad fact
if that's true, for US. Right?
285
00:16:00,710 --> 00:16:02,460
A bad accident
took place,
286
00:16:02,587 --> 00:16:06,965
they think they may know
possibly, could be
how it happened. Okay?
287
00:16:07,092 --> 00:16:10,969
And maybe possibly
you could have
been on your cellphone.
288
00:16:11,096 --> 00:16:12,345
Possibly.
289
00:16:12,472 --> 00:16:14,722
That's a long way from
beyond a reasonable doubt.
290
00:16:16,351 --> 00:16:18,434
Much of our case
and much of our defense
291
00:16:18,561 --> 00:16:20,728
is going to be built around
292
00:16:20,855 --> 00:16:24,232
this is simply a car accident
and nothing more.
293
00:16:26,403 --> 00:16:29,070
And so, we're all
gonna go out
to the crash site
294
00:16:29,197 --> 00:16:30,446
where all this took place.
295
00:16:31,825 --> 00:16:33,449
I know it's gonna
be painful, Jason,
296
00:16:33,576 --> 00:16:35,827
but we absolutely
need it
297
00:16:35,954 --> 00:16:37,203
to prepare for trial.
298
00:16:41,626 --> 00:16:42,625
Okay.
299
00:17:08,153 --> 00:17:09,861
As a defense attorney,
you wanna go out,
300
00:17:09,988 --> 00:17:11,863
you wanna see the scene,
walk the scene.
301
00:17:11,990 --> 00:17:14,490
And I want to see
those gouges in the road.
302
00:17:15,118 --> 00:17:17,118
You wanna go out there
and you wanna see
303
00:17:17,245 --> 00:17:18,786
what Jason saw
304
00:17:18,913 --> 00:17:21,497
and you wanna see
what Roland
and what Perry saw
305
00:17:21,624 --> 00:17:22,832
just before the accident.
306
00:17:22,959 --> 00:17:25,001
That cannot be overstated.
307
00:17:26,087 --> 00:17:28,713
I think that these officers
may take for granted
308
00:17:29,382 --> 00:17:31,674
that we are
just going to assume
309
00:17:31,801 --> 00:17:34,969
that their version
of how this accident took place
310
00:17:35,472 --> 00:17:37,305
is gonna be the one
that we go with.
311
00:17:37,432 --> 00:17:40,224
We are questioning
every portion of this accident
312
00:17:41,061 --> 00:17:43,144
and the version
of how this accident happened.
313
00:17:50,111 --> 00:17:51,360
Is this the spot?
314
00:17:52,739 --> 00:17:54,113
This is the spot.
There's the area...
Yeah.
315
00:17:57,494 --> 00:17:58,743
Their vehicle,
the greaves' vehicle,
316
00:17:58,870 --> 00:17:59,952
would have been
pointed right there.
317
00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:01,871
There's the fence post
right there.
318
00:18:05,210 --> 00:18:06,125
So...
319
00:18:07,504 --> 00:18:08,836
I'm gonna go
take a look at it
right away.
320
00:18:23,853 --> 00:18:25,269
This gouge right here,
321
00:18:25,396 --> 00:18:27,396
it's part of where
the greaves' car landed
322
00:18:28,900 --> 00:18:30,441
and then Jason's car
landed right over there
323
00:18:30,568 --> 00:18:31,692
up against that embankment.
324
00:18:35,448 --> 00:18:37,156
I think these two
are door handles.
325
00:18:41,412 --> 00:18:43,412
And then there's
stray pieces of trim...
326
00:18:46,292 --> 00:18:47,875
...from Jason's car all over.
327
00:18:52,507 --> 00:18:54,340
That must have been
one hell of a fire.
328
00:19:07,522 --> 00:19:08,896
It is a struggle to be here.
329
00:19:11,609 --> 00:19:12,692
For like, it's something that
330
00:19:12,819 --> 00:19:14,193
I'll live with
for the rest of my life.
331
00:19:20,410 --> 00:19:23,077
Just knowing that it happened
332
00:19:23,204 --> 00:19:26,581
is enough to have to live with.
333
00:19:28,251 --> 00:19:29,625
And for anybody
on either side.
334
00:19:36,509 --> 00:19:38,217
Come here.
Come here.
335
00:20:01,951 --> 00:20:04,118
The jury is gonna wanna have an explanation
336
00:20:04,245 --> 00:20:06,370
as to why this accident took place.
337
00:20:07,081 --> 00:20:10,291
By getting here, I get
a good understanding and idea
338
00:20:10,418 --> 00:20:11,667
of the layout,
339
00:20:11,794 --> 00:20:13,628
of the breaks in the road.
340
00:20:13,755 --> 00:20:15,004
For example,
341
00:20:15,131 --> 00:20:17,256
if you look at this vehicle
coming up over here,
342
00:20:17,383 --> 00:20:19,592
you can't see the vehicle
right now
343
00:20:19,719 --> 00:20:22,136
until it comes up
over this curve right here.
344
00:20:23,932 --> 00:20:26,015
This is a blind hill.
345
00:20:26,142 --> 00:20:28,976
Meaning the drivers
who were coming this way,
the greaves,
346
00:20:29,646 --> 00:20:31,062
could not see
up over that hill.
347
00:20:31,189 --> 00:20:32,855
To no fault of their own.
348
00:20:33,775 --> 00:20:36,275
But no one coming over that hill
can see
349
00:20:36,402 --> 00:20:39,070
until, at 70 miles an hour,
350
00:20:39,197 --> 00:20:41,364
they meet with these folks
who were coming off that turn,
351
00:20:41,491 --> 00:20:43,115
also at 70 miles an hour.
352
00:20:45,078 --> 00:20:46,869
You can see
coming this direction,
353
00:20:46,996 --> 00:20:48,371
which is where
Jason was coming,
354
00:20:48,498 --> 00:20:49,997
just how sharp that curve is.
355
00:20:52,961 --> 00:20:55,586
That is something I'm gonna have to convey to the jury
356
00:20:55,713 --> 00:20:59,048
that, "hey, this turn that Jason was coming out of
357
00:20:59,175 --> 00:21:00,758
"is a dangerous turn."
358
00:21:01,678 --> 00:21:03,552
Which can be an explanation
359
00:21:04,138 --> 00:21:06,472
to how Jason ended up in this oncoming Lane.
360
00:21:11,312 --> 00:21:15,022
This scene supports
and gives US a defense
361
00:21:15,692 --> 00:21:18,693
as to why this accident
would take place the way it did.
362
00:21:19,153 --> 00:21:20,528
Jason and the greaves
were effectively
363
00:21:20,655 --> 00:21:23,072
headed at each other
at 140 miles an hour
364
00:21:23,199 --> 00:21:24,991
that's not a lot of time
to respond.
365
00:21:27,578 --> 00:21:29,036
And that's not a bad defense.
366
00:21:33,793 --> 00:21:36,002
If we can explain it
to the jury in a simple way,
367
00:21:37,005 --> 00:21:38,379
the layout of this road,
368
00:21:39,507 --> 00:21:41,048
we'll have a fighting shot
for Jason.
369
00:22:15,376 --> 00:22:17,710
What I'm looking at
is the toxicology report.
370
00:22:18,755 --> 00:22:20,921
The results
of his blood tests
371
00:22:21,049 --> 00:22:24,050
indicated that
there was morphine
in his blood.
372
00:22:24,886 --> 00:22:28,471
But it was less than
0.01 milligrams per liter.
373
00:22:28,598 --> 00:22:30,598
Which is almost
next to nothing.
374
00:22:34,228 --> 00:22:36,896
Less than
0.01 milligrams per liter
375
00:22:37,523 --> 00:22:39,231
is not adequate
376
00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:42,693
to believe that
a person lost
the normal use
377
00:22:42,820 --> 00:22:45,363
of his or her mental
or physical faculties.
378
00:22:45,490 --> 00:22:47,948
But it's something that
we absolutely
wanna defend against.
379
00:22:48,076 --> 00:22:50,451
We do not want to leave
any stone unturned.
380
00:23:09,138 --> 00:23:11,055
If I were in Jason's shoes,
381
00:23:11,182 --> 00:23:12,973
and I had six kids and a wife,
382
00:23:14,060 --> 00:23:15,935
then I would do anything and everything I could
383
00:23:16,062 --> 00:23:17,937
to avoid the uncertainly of a jury trial.
384
00:23:19,941 --> 00:23:21,190
With a plea bargain,
385
00:23:21,317 --> 00:23:23,609
you know exactly how your case is gonna end.
386
00:23:25,029 --> 00:23:27,822
With a jury trial, you have absolutely no idea
387
00:23:27,949 --> 00:23:29,824
if you're gonna be a convicted felon
388
00:23:29,951 --> 00:23:32,660
or if you're gonna go to prisonfor the next 20 years.
389
00:23:38,167 --> 00:23:41,168
The best hope would be
to get there
and something comes up
390
00:23:42,463 --> 00:23:44,088
and it just goes away.
391
00:23:44,674 --> 00:23:47,466
You know, where they put
a deal on the table
392
00:23:47,593 --> 00:23:49,218
that just really
can't be passed up.
393
00:23:50,012 --> 00:23:52,388
Um, expect the worst,
hope for the best.
394
00:23:55,601 --> 00:23:56,809
Hey, Austin.
395
00:23:58,229 --> 00:23:59,645
How you doing?
How you holding up?
396
00:24:01,190 --> 00:24:02,690
Hi.
Hey, mom. Doing okay?
397
00:24:04,444 --> 00:24:06,735
We just have to wait to see what the outcome's gonna be.
398
00:24:07,572 --> 00:24:09,905
It's a lose-lose situation
for both families.
399
00:24:11,033 --> 00:24:14,118
It won't make them feel better.
400
00:24:14,245 --> 00:24:16,829
And it definitely hurts US.
401
00:24:17,623 --> 00:24:18,789
You know,
as a mother,
402
00:24:18,916 --> 00:24:20,332
no matter
how old your children are,
403
00:24:20,460 --> 00:24:21,876
you still hurt
when they hurt.
404
00:24:23,212 --> 00:24:24,545
Let's get this
over with.
405
00:24:43,649 --> 00:24:44,690
Well, the only offer
406
00:24:44,817 --> 00:24:46,066
that the prosecution is making
407
00:24:46,194 --> 00:24:47,318
was prison time.
408
00:24:47,445 --> 00:24:49,028
We didn't really negotiate the numbers
409
00:24:49,155 --> 00:24:50,821
because Jason and I weren't receptive
410
00:24:50,948 --> 00:24:52,656
to any type of prison time.
411
00:24:52,783 --> 00:24:54,283
Even if it was something minimal.
412
00:24:55,036 --> 00:24:57,244
And the greaves family
will only agree
to prison time.
413
00:24:57,747 --> 00:24:59,038
That's my understanding.
414
00:24:59,165 --> 00:25:00,998
And it's just not something
we can agree to.
415
00:25:01,125 --> 00:25:03,667
And so, our only other option
is to go to a jury trial,
416
00:25:03,794 --> 00:25:04,960
which is where we're headed.
417
00:25:15,431 --> 00:25:18,891
The police accused Jason of crossing the line.
418
00:25:19,018 --> 00:25:21,227
And the reason they say
he crossed the line
419
00:25:21,354 --> 00:25:23,062
is because he was
using his cellphone.
420
00:25:27,735 --> 00:25:29,568
Law enforcement and the district attorney's office
421
00:25:29,695 --> 00:25:32,738
have subpoenaed
Jason's phone records
422
00:25:32,865 --> 00:25:34,823
to try to get an idea
if it is something
423
00:25:34,951 --> 00:25:36,659
that they,
meaning law enforcement,
424
00:25:36,786 --> 00:25:38,786
can prove, um,
425
00:25:38,913 --> 00:25:40,996
that being whether or not
Jason used his cellphone
426
00:25:41,123 --> 00:25:42,706
when the accident took place.
427
00:25:43,918 --> 00:25:46,335
Yes, he was honest that he had used his cellphone
428
00:25:46,462 --> 00:25:48,212
prior to the accident,
429
00:25:48,339 --> 00:25:50,965
but the prosecution must prove that he was reckless
430
00:26:13,197 --> 00:26:15,155
Hey, Jason.
Hey, Austin.
431
00:26:15,283 --> 00:26:16,365
Good to see you.
Thanks for making the trip.
432
00:26:16,492 --> 00:26:17,491
How are you, man?
433
00:26:17,618 --> 00:26:18,659
Good. Sit with me.
434
00:26:21,372 --> 00:26:23,872
Here is what
I wanna do today. Okay?
435
00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:26,166
I wanna help
build a timeline
436
00:26:26,294 --> 00:26:27,793
just before the accident.
437
00:26:29,171 --> 00:26:31,589
Because the few minutes
before the accident,
438
00:26:32,216 --> 00:26:34,300
the entire case
live and dies right there.
439
00:26:34,802 --> 00:26:36,927
We have got to
attack this position
440
00:26:37,054 --> 00:26:38,387
taken by the police
441
00:26:38,514 --> 00:26:40,764
that you were
on a cellphone
442
00:26:40,891 --> 00:26:41,890
when the accident
took place.
443
00:26:42,018 --> 00:26:44,643
So, let's see
444
00:26:44,770 --> 00:26:46,812
what the at&t records
show from your phone.
445
00:26:49,191 --> 00:26:51,650
This is the last phone call
you made before the accident.
446
00:26:52,153 --> 00:26:54,737
About 37 minutes
447
00:26:56,699 --> 00:26:59,033
before the accident
took place.
448
00:27:00,411 --> 00:27:01,785
You with me?
449
00:27:01,912 --> 00:27:04,496
Well, this was a two minute
and ten second phone call
450
00:27:04,624 --> 00:27:05,831
and clearly,
you were not on the phone
451
00:27:05,958 --> 00:27:07,249
whenever the accident
took place
452
00:27:07,376 --> 00:27:08,751
as far as talking.
453
00:27:09,837 --> 00:27:12,880
Right. Now, let's go
into text messages
454
00:27:13,007 --> 00:27:14,298
just before the accident.
455
00:27:14,425 --> 00:27:17,593
So we're looking
at something
just before 3:18.
456
00:27:21,182 --> 00:27:25,059
Nothing, nothing, nothing,
nothing, nothing.
457
00:27:25,186 --> 00:27:28,604
Where is the text message
you sent to your employee
458
00:27:29,732 --> 00:27:31,523
two minutes before
the accident happened?
459
00:27:33,611 --> 00:27:35,235
Know what I mean?
Yeah.
460
00:27:37,031 --> 00:27:40,574
Everything...
The whole accident... I...
461
00:27:43,329 --> 00:27:45,079
I wish I had a clearer
recollection of everything.
462
00:27:45,206 --> 00:27:46,246
Okay.
463
00:27:49,335 --> 00:27:51,460
If you were in the middle
of a text message,
464
00:27:51,587 --> 00:27:53,170
and had a car accident,
465
00:27:53,297 --> 00:27:55,381
well then,
it stands to reason that
466
00:27:55,508 --> 00:27:58,967
that text message
will be half sent.
467
00:27:59,095 --> 00:28:00,260
That's correct.
Okay.
468
00:28:00,971 --> 00:28:03,889
And so,
if the police thought
469
00:28:04,016 --> 00:28:06,975
that you were texting
whenever this happened,
470
00:28:07,561 --> 00:28:08,936
why didn't they
get your cellphone?
471
00:28:12,608 --> 00:28:13,941
That is their oversight.
472
00:28:14,068 --> 00:28:15,234
Yes.
Yes?
473
00:28:15,778 --> 00:28:17,986
Not your mistake.
474
00:28:18,114 --> 00:28:19,822
Understand?
475
00:28:21,283 --> 00:28:23,951
Where's the phone right now
that you had that day?
476
00:28:24,328 --> 00:28:25,661
That phone was...
477
00:28:25,788 --> 00:28:27,496
I'd given it to my...
'Cause I got a new phone.
478
00:28:27,623 --> 00:28:29,373
And so I gave that phone
to my son.
479
00:28:29,500 --> 00:28:32,334
I mean, it was
completely erased
480
00:28:32,461 --> 00:28:34,128
and made new for him.
Okay.
481
00:28:34,630 --> 00:28:35,921
Now this is important.
482
00:28:36,048 --> 00:28:39,133
How did the phone
survive that fire?
483
00:28:40,594 --> 00:28:41,677
Do you know?
484
00:28:41,804 --> 00:28:44,012
It was probably
I had... maybe...
485
00:28:44,432 --> 00:28:45,597
Weren't like that
if I had it in my pocket.
486
00:28:47,059 --> 00:28:48,142
Good.
487
00:28:49,103 --> 00:28:50,227
Do you remember that?
488
00:28:51,063 --> 00:28:52,020
That's the only way
it could have
489
00:28:52,148 --> 00:28:53,564
made it out
of the vehicle.
490
00:28:53,691 --> 00:28:55,190
Okay. If the phone's
in my pocket,
491
00:28:55,609 --> 00:28:58,152
then chances are
492
00:28:58,279 --> 00:29:00,863
it was in my pocket
the entire time I was driving.
493
00:29:01,949 --> 00:29:02,948
You with me?
494
00:29:03,075 --> 00:29:05,242
'Cause it that phone
was in your pocket
495
00:29:05,369 --> 00:29:07,035
whenever you were
pulled out of that car,
496
00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:10,539
the likelihood of you
being on it
497
00:29:13,002 --> 00:29:14,126
while you were driving,
498
00:29:14,253 --> 00:29:15,836
text message,
that thing goes down.
499
00:29:25,723 --> 00:29:28,307
Winning and losing hinges on
500
00:29:28,434 --> 00:29:30,851
whether or not Jason was using his cellphone.
501
00:29:31,812 --> 00:29:33,604
The only evidence that
502
00:29:33,731 --> 00:29:35,773
Jason had anything
to do with his phone
503
00:29:35,900 --> 00:29:37,858
was Jason's statement
504
00:29:37,985 --> 00:29:39,860
that, "I was on the phone
505
00:29:39,987 --> 00:29:41,361
"a few minutes
before the accident."
506
00:29:43,032 --> 00:29:45,282
Now we have to get the jury to buy into this idea
507
00:29:45,409 --> 00:29:46,909
that Jason made this statement
508
00:29:47,036 --> 00:29:49,203
about being on the phone
509
00:29:49,330 --> 00:29:52,080
while he was under
this extremely
traumatic situation,
510
00:29:52,666 --> 00:29:54,416
and that was just
some memory
511
00:29:54,543 --> 00:29:56,043
that was floating around
in his head
512
00:29:56,170 --> 00:29:58,212
that came out
when being questioned
by law enforcement.
513
00:30:01,133 --> 00:30:04,051
So, if the prosecution
can't prove what happened,
514
00:30:04,178 --> 00:30:06,011
okay, our position is
515
00:30:06,138 --> 00:30:08,722
they didn't overcome
their burden of proof,
516
00:30:09,266 --> 00:30:11,058
so Jason's not guilty.
517
00:30:35,084 --> 00:30:37,751
We received pictures of Perry greaves in the hospital.
518
00:30:44,260 --> 00:30:45,759
This member of his family
519
00:30:46,762 --> 00:30:48,929
took these and provided them
to the prosecution
520
00:30:49,056 --> 00:30:52,099
to give the district attorney
an idea of how Perry's doing.
521
00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:58,480
You can't help
but feel for this man.
522
00:30:59,149 --> 00:31:01,275
He appears to be
in a vegetative state.
523
00:31:02,862 --> 00:31:04,486
I can see why they want
Jason to go to prison.
524
00:31:07,032 --> 00:31:08,991
I mean, regardless
of guilt or innocence.
525
00:31:12,037 --> 00:31:13,620
I mean, look what
they did to this guy.
526
00:31:14,874 --> 00:31:16,164
He's not getting any better.
527
00:31:21,213 --> 00:31:23,297
I cannot imagine the prosecution
528
00:31:25,342 --> 00:31:27,009
hearing from
the victim's family
529
00:31:27,136 --> 00:31:28,969
that they would be okay
530
00:31:29,096 --> 00:31:31,263
or consent to probation
for Jason.
531
00:31:32,099 --> 00:31:33,473
Specially given
these new pictures.
532
00:31:37,771 --> 00:31:40,105
There are going to be
people out there who say,
533
00:31:40,232 --> 00:31:41,857
"those pictures are terrible.
534
00:31:42,693 --> 00:31:44,693
"We gotta hold somebody
criminally responsible."
535
00:32:01,170 --> 00:32:04,338
All right, Jason, will you have this woman to be your wife?
536
00:32:04,924 --> 00:32:07,174
To live together in holy covenant of marriage?
537
00:32:07,301 --> 00:32:09,134
Will you love her, comfort her,
538
00:32:09,261 --> 00:32:11,470
honor and keep her in sickness and in health...
539
00:32:12,765 --> 00:32:15,641
If we weren't meant to work out,
540
00:32:15,768 --> 00:32:16,850
this would tear US apart.
541
00:32:20,064 --> 00:32:21,897
I can only see what I'm going through
542
00:32:22,483 --> 00:32:24,024
through my perspective.
543
00:32:24,693 --> 00:32:27,152
I can't imagine
how hard it is
544
00:32:27,279 --> 00:32:29,529
to go through it
from her perspective as well.
545
00:32:29,907 --> 00:32:33,325
Knowing and feeling
and seeing it
546
00:32:33,452 --> 00:32:35,619
through her eyes
and her feelings.
547
00:32:35,746 --> 00:32:36,703
Um...
548
00:32:37,247 --> 00:32:39,039
I'm not going anywhere.
549
00:32:39,166 --> 00:32:41,708
Like, we're in this together
for the long haul.
550
00:32:42,795 --> 00:32:44,586
I don't know
where I would be
551
00:32:44,713 --> 00:32:45,754
right now without her,
honestly.
552
00:32:45,881 --> 00:32:47,172
I don't know where.
553
00:32:47,299 --> 00:32:48,966
...togetherin holy covenant of marriage?
554
00:32:49,093 --> 00:32:50,384
Will you love him,comfort him,
555
00:32:50,511 --> 00:32:52,761
honor and keep himin sickness and in health
556
00:32:53,597 --> 00:32:55,472
and be faithful to himfor as long asyou both shall live?
557
00:32:55,599 --> 00:32:57,432
If so, say, "I will." I will.
558
00:32:57,559 --> 00:32:58,642
All right.
559
00:33:11,949 --> 00:33:13,615
This case is about emotion.
560
00:33:16,495 --> 00:33:19,955
What's important
is the legal aspect
561
00:33:20,082 --> 00:33:23,208
versus the human aspect
in a case like this.
562
00:33:23,919 --> 00:33:26,878
You have got to address that emotion
563
00:33:27,006 --> 00:33:29,464
that is going to be in the jury box from the beginning.
564
00:33:35,931 --> 00:33:38,056
Couple of things I wanna
talk about with you. Okay?
565
00:33:38,183 --> 00:33:40,350
The prosecution
is going to
566
00:33:40,477 --> 00:33:42,519
read the indictment.
567
00:33:43,105 --> 00:33:46,189
Then the judge will turn
and look at you, okay,
568
00:33:46,316 --> 00:33:47,566
and look at you and say,
569
00:33:47,693 --> 00:33:49,776
"Mr. Mccombs,
how do you plead?"
570
00:33:49,903 --> 00:33:51,028
Right?
571
00:33:51,155 --> 00:33:53,864
That is a very, very
important time.
572
00:33:53,991 --> 00:33:56,742
So, you say, you know,
very simple, and say,
573
00:33:56,869 --> 00:33:59,411
"not guilty, your honor."
Okay?
574
00:34:00,330 --> 00:34:02,205
But there's a wrong way
to do it
and there's a right way.
575
00:34:02,332 --> 00:34:04,207
And it's not,
"not guilty, your honor."
576
00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:06,460
Okay? It's not,
"not guilty, your honor."
577
00:34:06,587 --> 00:34:08,336
That's not it.
Okay?
578
00:34:08,464 --> 00:34:10,881
Frankly, we don't care
what the judge thinks.
579
00:34:11,383 --> 00:34:13,884
You talk to that jury.
Okay?
580
00:34:14,011 --> 00:34:16,094
That's why we talk to,
is the jury.
581
00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:19,097
It's, "not guilty,
your honor,"
582
00:34:19,224 --> 00:34:21,016
like it's true.
583
00:34:21,143 --> 00:34:22,893
I'm saying,
"not guilty, your honor,"
but I'm looking at the jury?
584
00:34:23,020 --> 00:34:24,352
You look at that jury.
585
00:34:26,398 --> 00:34:29,149
We will say it one time,
we get one shot at it.
586
00:34:29,276 --> 00:34:31,443
Okay? And it's very,
very important.
587
00:34:32,362 --> 00:34:34,571
I know.
It's important. Okay?
588
00:34:34,698 --> 00:34:35,989
That make sense?
589
00:34:36,116 --> 00:34:39,576
All right. You, Jason,
have the option to testify.
590
00:34:39,703 --> 00:34:41,536
You cannot be compelled
to testify
591
00:34:41,663 --> 00:34:43,205
and I can't stop you.
Okay?
592
00:34:43,332 --> 00:34:45,082
And I can't tell you to.
That's your option.
593
00:34:45,209 --> 00:34:47,667
That's one of the few things
594
00:34:47,795 --> 00:34:51,004
that you are the Alpha
and the omega of. Okay?
595
00:34:53,092 --> 00:34:55,467
Ultimately, I don't think
we're gonna put you
on the witness stand
596
00:34:55,594 --> 00:34:57,677
unless you absolutely
want to.
597
00:34:57,805 --> 00:34:58,970
What do you think?
598
00:35:00,432 --> 00:35:02,224
I don't know.
599
00:35:02,351 --> 00:35:03,350
Honestly, I don't know.
600
00:35:03,477 --> 00:35:04,976
Well, it's one of those...
601
00:35:05,104 --> 00:35:06,812
You can always make
a game time decision.
602
00:35:07,981 --> 00:35:10,315
All right? My suggestion
is that you don't.
603
00:35:10,442 --> 00:35:11,942
All right?
That's my advice.
604
00:35:12,611 --> 00:35:13,985
I don't...
If you were me
what would you do?
605
00:35:14,113 --> 00:35:15,737
I would not testify.
606
00:35:15,864 --> 00:35:17,239
Not in this
particular case.
607
00:35:17,366 --> 00:35:19,157
You don't think it will
come across badly to the jury
608
00:35:19,284 --> 00:35:21,076
if I'm not up there?
No.
609
00:35:21,203 --> 00:35:23,703
You know, the fifth amendment,
the election not to testify.
610
00:35:23,831 --> 00:35:25,288
You cannot be compelled
611
00:35:25,415 --> 00:35:27,332
to provide evidence
against yourself,
612
00:35:27,459 --> 00:35:29,417
meaning, called as witness
against yourself.
613
00:35:29,545 --> 00:35:31,503
It's unconstitutional.
Okay?
614
00:35:31,630 --> 00:35:33,046
Your election
not to testify
615
00:35:33,173 --> 00:35:35,423
will not
cut either way.
616
00:35:45,561 --> 00:35:47,727
Logan, Dillon, come downstairs and eat.
617
00:35:48,063 --> 00:35:48,937
Food's ready.
618
00:35:58,782 --> 00:36:00,115
Dear father,
we just want to thank you
619
00:36:00,242 --> 00:36:01,366
for the time
you've given US
620
00:36:01,493 --> 00:36:02,659
this weekend
with our families.
621
00:36:02,786 --> 00:36:04,828
We ask that
you take this food
622
00:36:04,955 --> 00:36:07,289
and bless it to our bodies
as we bless our bodies
to your service.
623
00:36:07,416 --> 00:36:08,957
In your name we pray.
Amen.
624
00:36:09,084 --> 00:36:10,208
Amen.
625
00:36:11,670 --> 00:36:14,421
For me, the worst case scenario
626
00:36:16,508 --> 00:36:19,009
is that I end up
going to prison
627
00:36:19,136 --> 00:36:21,178
for something that
was an accident.
628
00:36:21,305 --> 00:36:22,762
And...
629
00:36:24,391 --> 00:36:25,765
And I miss my kids.
630
00:36:30,022 --> 00:36:31,021
My dad's sick.
631
00:36:31,148 --> 00:36:32,147
I don't know
how much longer he has.
632
00:36:36,778 --> 00:36:38,904
And to think about that...
633
00:36:41,366 --> 00:36:42,616
...is so scary.
634
00:37:02,054 --> 00:37:04,221
I know Jason is terrified.
635
00:37:04,348 --> 00:37:06,139
I'm sure I would feel the same way
636
00:37:06,266 --> 00:37:08,141
if I was faced with something like this.
637
00:37:16,109 --> 00:37:18,401
I can't tell you exactly what the jury's gonna do.
638
00:37:20,030 --> 00:37:21,488
I think anybody who tells you
639
00:37:21,615 --> 00:37:23,531
that they know what a jury's gonna do
640
00:37:24,117 --> 00:37:25,492
hasn't tried winning jury trials.
641
00:37:38,548 --> 00:37:39,965
We made some good points
642
00:37:40,092 --> 00:37:42,509
with some of the officers who testified.
643
00:37:42,636 --> 00:37:45,053
We also talked about
the cellphone records.
644
00:37:45,180 --> 00:37:46,429
And we're happy to bring out
645
00:37:46,556 --> 00:37:48,223
that, there's
really no proof
646
00:37:48,350 --> 00:37:50,016
that Jason was on his phone.
647
00:37:58,527 --> 00:38:00,068
It's a scary day.
648
00:38:00,195 --> 00:38:04,155
Mrs. Greaves, who is the wife of Perry, the survivor,
649
00:38:04,700 --> 00:38:07,158
she did a very good job and she was very emotional.
650
00:38:07,869 --> 00:38:09,869
I think that's why
the state put
Mrs. Greaves on last.
651
00:38:09,997 --> 00:38:13,206
It was a smart move,
which we had to respond to.
652
00:38:13,709 --> 00:38:15,917
We had to put some time between
653
00:38:16,044 --> 00:38:18,128
when her testimony ended
654
00:38:18,255 --> 00:38:19,963
and the jury began to deliberate.
655
00:38:20,090 --> 00:38:22,007
And so, going back and forth,
656
00:38:22,134 --> 00:38:23,758
I just made the game time decision
657
00:38:23,885 --> 00:38:25,635
that the jury, I think,
658
00:38:25,762 --> 00:38:27,345
probably wanted to hear from Jason.
659
00:38:27,848 --> 00:38:28,930
And he got up there and he told the truth
660
00:38:29,057 --> 00:38:30,432
and he did awesome.
661
00:38:30,559 --> 00:38:32,100
He was emotional
662
00:38:32,561 --> 00:38:33,977
and made me little emotional
663
00:38:34,104 --> 00:38:36,187
and one of the jurors,
one of them...
664
00:38:36,315 --> 00:38:38,690
One of the male jurors
was actually crying with Jason.
665
00:38:40,277 --> 00:38:43,111
I think it was a wise decision.Although, you never know.
666
00:38:48,660 --> 00:38:50,285
It's very scary for Jason.
667
00:38:51,580 --> 00:38:52,662
This may be the last time
668
00:38:52,789 --> 00:38:55,832
he spends a night in his own bed,
669
00:38:55,959 --> 00:38:57,459
in the house with his own family.
670
00:39:00,047 --> 00:39:02,130
This may be the last time he ever sees his dad.
671
00:39:02,257 --> 00:39:04,299
'Cause if he goes to prison,then there's a very good chance
672
00:39:04,426 --> 00:39:07,052
that he won't ever shake his dad's hand again.
673
00:39:14,061 --> 00:39:18,396
I couldn't fathom being denied my family.
674
00:39:20,609 --> 00:39:22,442
I couldn't imagine. I couldn't imagine that.
675
00:39:22,569 --> 00:39:23,860
I couldn't.
676
00:39:24,571 --> 00:39:25,945
I don't want to imagine that.
677
00:40:03,026 --> 00:40:04,609
We just did closing arguments.
678
00:40:04,736 --> 00:40:07,112
Um, I got to talk
for about 15 minutes.
679
00:40:08,240 --> 00:40:10,240
Frankly, I could've
spoken for much more.
680
00:40:10,367 --> 00:40:12,075
I asked for more
from the judge,
681
00:40:12,202 --> 00:40:13,284
but it wasn't given to me.
682
00:40:14,162 --> 00:40:16,371
Um, now we wait.
683
00:40:22,129 --> 00:40:26,005
For the defense, you want the jury to be out as long as possible.
684
00:40:26,133 --> 00:40:28,007
It means that they're discussing the issues.
685
00:40:28,135 --> 00:40:30,969
It means that
they're discussing
beyond a reasonable doubt
686
00:40:31,096 --> 00:40:32,554
and looking at the evidence.
687
00:40:33,056 --> 00:40:34,639
Um, if they come back quickly,
688
00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:38,726
usually, less than an hour,
an hour and a half,
689
00:40:38,854 --> 00:40:41,271
it usually doesn't
bode well for the defense.
690
00:40:42,357 --> 00:40:44,732
So we want them out as long as possible.
691
00:41:23,398 --> 00:41:24,856
I can't thank you
enough, man.
692
00:41:29,446 --> 00:41:31,237
You're beautiful.
693
00:41:31,364 --> 00:41:33,573
We got a not guilty on all counts.
694
00:41:34,409 --> 00:41:36,242
And so we are ecstatic.
695
00:41:42,584 --> 00:41:43,833
I'm proud of you.
696
00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:45,919
Now we can shift
our focus off of me to you.
697
00:41:47,506 --> 00:41:49,672
I... I'm just happy
that you're...
698
00:41:49,799 --> 00:41:51,633
I know.
I don't care about me.
699
00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:53,551
Well, we all do.
So...
700
00:41:53,678 --> 00:41:54,719
Well...
701
00:41:57,766 --> 00:41:59,599
You're my baby.
My baby.
702
00:42:01,937 --> 00:42:02,894
I... I feel like
703
00:42:04,523 --> 00:42:06,689
mount Everest has just been
taken off my back.
704
00:42:06,983 --> 00:42:09,359
I haven't felt this way in...
705
00:42:10,612 --> 00:42:11,736
Since all this
706
00:42:12,906 --> 00:42:14,197
trial stuff started
since the arrest.
707
00:42:16,159 --> 00:42:17,909
Putting your life
or your outcome
708
00:42:18,036 --> 00:42:20,745
into 12 people...
Twelve strangers' hands
709
00:42:21,790 --> 00:42:23,748
is the most terrifying thing
710
00:42:24,626 --> 00:42:26,584
anybody can ever go through.
711
00:42:28,088 --> 00:42:30,421
By god's grace, I'll never
have to go through that again,
712
00:42:33,468 --> 00:42:35,009
can I get my husband?
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