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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:20,521 --> 00:00:22,596 It seemed like every time we turned around, 2 00:00:22,690 --> 00:00:24,839 they were telling US, "prepare yourself." 3 00:00:25,276 --> 00:00:26,525 He wasn't gonna make it. 4 00:00:41,375 --> 00:00:44,209 To think that somebody would accuse me 5 00:00:45,704 --> 00:00:47,938 of wanting to hurt my son, it just... 6 00:00:47,965 --> 00:00:50,049 My god, it just killed me. 7 00:00:54,972 --> 00:00:56,346 If I was found guilty, 8 00:00:57,475 --> 00:00:59,058 no cuddles at night, 9 00:00:59,218 --> 00:01:01,810 no story time, no life at all. 10 00:01:02,563 --> 00:01:03,729 For what? 11 00:01:03,889 --> 00:01:05,481 For something I didn't even do. 12 00:01:35,763 --> 00:01:37,596 A cleburne woman faces allegations 13 00:01:37,756 --> 00:01:39,598 of medical child abuse, 14 00:01:39,758 --> 00:01:42,101 including lying about her son's symptoms, 15 00:01:42,770 --> 00:01:45,512 leading doctors to perform unnecessary surgeries. 16 00:01:46,857 --> 00:01:50,167 She is also accused of starving her 13-year-old son, Colby, 17 00:01:50,194 --> 00:01:52,502 who she says has been sick since birth. 18 00:01:53,364 --> 00:01:55,096 Police have revealed that a casket 19 00:01:55,157 --> 00:01:56,949 and a headstone for Colby 20 00:01:57,109 --> 00:01:58,700 had been purchased by the family. 21 00:02:01,122 --> 00:02:03,347 The allegations are in an indictment 22 00:02:03,374 --> 00:02:05,440 which lays out everything 23 00:02:05,501 --> 00:02:08,034 the prosecution says she did that's a crime. 24 00:02:09,505 --> 00:02:12,873 The first two counts are saying that she fabricated symptoms 25 00:02:12,967 --> 00:02:15,467 to get doctors to perform surgeries 26 00:02:15,627 --> 00:02:17,527 that didn't need to be performed, 27 00:02:17,555 --> 00:02:19,388 and that, that injured Colby. 28 00:02:20,132 --> 00:02:21,623 The third count, 29 00:02:21,967 --> 00:02:24,534 they say she starved Colby. 30 00:02:24,562 --> 00:02:27,721 When she read that in my office, 31 00:02:28,023 --> 00:02:30,399 she completely fell apart. 32 00:02:31,235 --> 00:02:32,818 And then count four 33 00:02:33,404 --> 00:02:36,488 is attempted murder. 34 00:02:36,648 --> 00:02:38,949 They say that she actually, by doing this, 35 00:02:40,411 --> 00:02:43,245 attempted to murder her son. 36 00:02:50,829 --> 00:02:52,671 Look at all his dark hair. 37 00:03:05,853 --> 00:03:08,094 I wanted to touch him and hold him so bad. 38 00:03:08,189 --> 00:03:09,855 But it was like three, almost four months, 39 00:03:10,015 --> 00:03:11,398 before I could even hold him. 40 00:03:12,351 --> 00:03:14,193 When we brought Colby home, 41 00:03:14,353 --> 00:03:17,087 we came home on a heart machine. 42 00:03:17,114 --> 00:03:18,772 We came home on oxygen. 43 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:20,699 He was nine inches long. 44 00:03:20,859 --> 00:03:22,850 A child born that tiny, 45 00:03:22,912 --> 00:03:25,186 you know you're gonna have problems as you get older. 46 00:03:25,247 --> 00:03:27,372 It seemed like every time we turned around, 47 00:03:27,532 --> 00:03:29,541 they were telling US, "prepare yourself." 48 00:03:30,711 --> 00:03:32,193 We just... We wouldn't give up. 49 00:03:32,630 --> 00:03:34,379 To this day, we don't give up. 50 00:03:42,214 --> 00:03:44,389 He's got heart issues. 51 00:03:44,549 --> 00:03:46,558 He has very low bone density. 52 00:03:46,718 --> 00:03:48,802 You know, he's got issues with his kidneys. 53 00:03:48,896 --> 00:03:52,046 He's got, gastro reflux disease. 54 00:03:52,107 --> 00:03:54,858 Sit on the toilet. Whenever you need to go, you just say it. 55 00:03:56,654 --> 00:03:59,488 He takes several things to try to go to the bathroom. 56 00:04:00,491 --> 00:04:02,299 Basically, his gi don't work. 57 00:04:02,826 --> 00:04:04,559 It's just... It's just not working properly. 58 00:04:05,329 --> 00:04:07,228 It's never going to work properly. 59 00:04:07,998 --> 00:04:09,639 Unfortunately, he's going to be on medicines 60 00:04:09,667 --> 00:04:10,499 the rest of his life. 61 00:04:11,460 --> 00:04:12,584 Colby, look at mommy. 62 00:04:29,645 --> 00:04:33,346 The doctors told danita "he's had all these problems, 63 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:35,941 "I mean, nothing seems to be working well for him, 64 00:04:36,101 --> 00:04:37,667 "and we're afraid we've kind of 65 00:04:37,695 --> 00:04:39,686 "reached the end of the road for Colby. 66 00:04:39,780 --> 00:04:42,781 "There are no more surgeries that we can do... 67 00:04:44,618 --> 00:04:47,536 "And we're gonna refer you to hospice." 68 00:04:59,341 --> 00:05:00,465 Hi. 69 00:05:00,625 --> 00:05:02,784 How are you? Good, how are you? 70 00:05:03,462 --> 00:05:05,620 Running a little bit late, sorry. That's okay. 71 00:05:06,807 --> 00:05:11,201 I know that you've never been on trial before for anything, 72 00:05:11,854 --> 00:05:15,038 and you probably have never even been in a courtroom 73 00:05:15,065 --> 00:05:17,065 and seen a real trial happening. 74 00:05:18,477 --> 00:05:20,902 And you're gonna need to be strong. 75 00:05:22,698 --> 00:05:24,972 The most hurtful thing 76 00:05:25,034 --> 00:05:28,785 is gonna be people are gonna say things about you, you know? 77 00:05:30,247 --> 00:05:32,164 And it's gonna go to your core. 78 00:05:33,667 --> 00:05:35,917 And I want to toughen you up to that process. 79 00:05:45,763 --> 00:05:47,829 Here's an affidavit by Connie. 80 00:05:48,849 --> 00:05:52,576 "We determined that this child both desired and could 81 00:05:52,603 --> 00:05:54,853 "tolerate solid foods and fluids 82 00:05:55,013 --> 00:05:57,505 "and had minimal reports of pain. 83 00:05:58,850 --> 00:06:01,843 "His mother refused to have any food or drink brought to Colby, 84 00:06:01,904 --> 00:06:06,031 "stating his eating would only 'prolong the inevitable.'" 85 00:06:06,191 --> 00:06:07,924 that's what she told me. 86 00:06:08,911 --> 00:06:12,704 Connie told me that eating and drinking is prolonging him. 87 00:06:14,032 --> 00:06:15,874 I didn't know what "prolonging the inevitable" was 88 00:06:16,034 --> 00:06:17,358 until she said it to me. 89 00:06:19,037 --> 00:06:21,287 "Prior to moving Colby to our suite, 90 00:06:21,382 --> 00:06:23,623 "mother and father purchased a casket, 91 00:06:23,717 --> 00:06:26,701 "headstone, and made all the funeral arrangements 92 00:06:26,762 --> 00:06:28,778 "for Colby." 93 00:06:28,806 --> 00:06:30,463 We would have never known what to do. 94 00:06:30,557 --> 00:06:32,874 All the stuff that she said I did, 95 00:06:32,935 --> 00:06:34,375 was all direction from her. 96 00:06:34,937 --> 00:06:37,303 She would tell US, "I'm in control. 97 00:06:38,399 --> 00:06:40,816 "We advise the parents what to do, but we have the final say." 98 00:06:42,227 --> 00:06:47,572 She says, "on many well-documented occasions, 99 00:06:48,117 --> 00:06:49,799 "the mother asked 100 00:06:49,827 --> 00:06:52,318 "if there was just something we could give him 101 00:06:52,413 --> 00:06:57,157 "to make him go to sleep and not wake up." 102 00:06:57,251 --> 00:07:00,160 No. I just wanted him not to feel the pain, 103 00:07:00,254 --> 00:07:03,630 where he could just enjoy a day where he would feel good. 104 00:07:05,008 --> 00:07:06,758 They've taken it out of context. 105 00:07:06,918 --> 00:07:10,262 I just said, "hey, you told US you're going to keep him comfortable..." 106 00:07:10,422 --> 00:07:13,506 "And you're not." "...And he's not going to be in pain, but he feels everything. 107 00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:16,509 "And he's not comfortable and he's not feeling good." 108 00:07:17,762 --> 00:07:20,997 She says, "if intervention by authorities is not instituted, 109 00:07:21,024 --> 00:07:23,608 "it is my expert opinion 110 00:07:23,768 --> 00:07:26,670 "that this child will die prematurely." 111 00:07:26,697 --> 00:07:28,521 Do you hear what she's saying? Yeah. 112 00:07:28,615 --> 00:07:30,023 She's going to come in the courtroom, 113 00:07:30,117 --> 00:07:31,524 she's going to get on that witness stand 114 00:07:31,618 --> 00:07:33,869 and say, "his mother was trying to kill him." 115 00:07:42,120 --> 00:07:44,796 Me and that accusation don't go in the same sentence. 116 00:07:49,511 --> 00:07:51,928 I mean, I can't even wrap my head around it. 117 00:07:55,133 --> 00:07:58,727 It destroys me as a mother, it destroys me as a human being. 118 00:08:00,639 --> 00:08:02,555 It feels like somebody took a knife and stabbed it in my heart, 119 00:08:02,649 --> 00:08:04,357 and they keep stabbing me over and over. 120 00:08:06,987 --> 00:08:07,819 This is... 121 00:08:08,989 --> 00:08:10,530 My whole heart, right there. 122 00:08:12,743 --> 00:08:14,642 Colby, Colton and Clint. 123 00:08:15,320 --> 00:08:16,620 It's my whole world right there. 124 00:08:29,176 --> 00:08:30,658 First day of school. 125 00:08:31,670 --> 00:08:33,303 They had to have the mohawk thing going there. 126 00:08:35,173 --> 00:08:37,015 I know what's being said about me. 127 00:08:38,018 --> 00:08:41,261 I'm frightened that the jurors are going to be blindsided 128 00:08:41,355 --> 00:08:42,771 and I'm not gonna get a fair trial. 129 00:08:46,109 --> 00:08:49,844 My view of danita is that she is absolutely innocent 130 00:08:49,905 --> 00:08:51,771 of these charges. 131 00:08:52,866 --> 00:08:57,277 I would far rather defend someone who was guilty. 132 00:08:57,371 --> 00:08:58,928 That sounds weird, 133 00:08:58,956 --> 00:09:01,931 but it doesn't feel weird to defend someone who's guilty. 134 00:09:01,959 --> 00:09:05,377 What feels horrible is defend somebody 135 00:09:05,537 --> 00:09:09,289 that you believe with every bit of your being is innocent. 136 00:09:09,383 --> 00:09:12,384 You can get so into the details of this case 137 00:09:12,544 --> 00:09:14,794 that it just... It just consumes you. 138 00:09:14,888 --> 00:09:18,372 There's so much noise. There's so much junk. 139 00:09:18,433 --> 00:09:22,118 I think the jury needs to understand, logically, 140 00:09:22,896 --> 00:09:27,065 how we got from point a to point z. 141 00:09:27,225 --> 00:09:28,808 I mean, this is not a child abuse case 142 00:09:28,902 --> 00:09:31,294 where a kid has a broken bone. 143 00:09:31,321 --> 00:09:34,631 He's been in a hospital setting, 144 00:09:34,658 --> 00:09:37,483 under nursing and doctor care. 145 00:09:38,328 --> 00:09:40,486 So what are they gonna accuse her of? 146 00:09:41,456 --> 00:09:43,230 I mean... Well, they got it figured it out. 147 00:09:43,292 --> 00:09:46,418 If it's malnutrition, well, it's on your watch. 148 00:09:46,578 --> 00:09:47,902 Yeah. He's in the hospital. 149 00:09:47,963 --> 00:09:49,145 Right. 150 00:09:49,172 --> 00:09:50,814 Are you starving him? 151 00:09:51,583 --> 00:09:53,983 How are you accusing the momma of malnutrition? 152 00:09:54,011 --> 00:09:55,427 He's in your facility. 153 00:09:55,587 --> 00:09:58,430 And if you remember counts one and two, 154 00:09:58,590 --> 00:10:01,082 she made doctors perform unnecessary surgeries 155 00:10:01,143 --> 00:10:03,326 by giving false and fictitious information. 156 00:10:03,353 --> 00:10:04,844 Really? What? 157 00:10:05,355 --> 00:10:07,063 What could the momma say 158 00:10:08,358 --> 00:10:10,667 that could cause a doctor to cut on a child? 159 00:10:11,361 --> 00:10:14,520 And god forbid if you question a doctor, 160 00:10:14,615 --> 00:10:18,358 or things don't go exactly as predicted... 161 00:10:18,785 --> 00:10:20,693 They're gonna turn the table on you. 162 00:10:20,787 --> 00:10:24,956 This is a recipe of how an innocent, great momma 163 00:10:25,116 --> 00:10:27,542 finds herself a criminal defendant. 164 00:10:40,641 --> 00:10:42,456 Hey. Hi, mom. Hi, dad. 165 00:10:42,517 --> 00:10:45,201 Hey, kid. -Just in time for lunch. 166 00:10:45,646 --> 00:10:47,704 Is this from that pizza place down the road? 167 00:10:47,731 --> 00:10:50,390 Yum! I suppose you're gonna eat mine. 168 00:10:50,484 --> 00:10:52,299 I'm just probably gonna have one. 169 00:10:52,361 --> 00:10:53,443 Maybe two. 170 00:10:55,197 --> 00:10:57,380 Ellen's going to the doctor today, your aunt. 171 00:10:58,158 --> 00:11:00,216 Do you know why? 'Cause her hair's falling out. 172 00:11:00,243 --> 00:11:02,810 She told me last night, she said, "my hair's falling out 173 00:11:02,871 --> 00:11:04,737 "because I'm so stressed about this." Yeah. 174 00:11:04,831 --> 00:11:06,539 So she's going to the doctor, you know? 175 00:11:08,493 --> 00:11:12,412 I don't think that y'all, in your age, should have to be put through this. 176 00:11:12,506 --> 00:11:15,840 And I don't think that any of our family should be put through this. 177 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:17,926 But... We're all in the same boat. 178 00:11:23,725 --> 00:11:24,641 Yeah. 179 00:11:26,687 --> 00:11:29,095 There's my tree. Yeah. 180 00:11:29,189 --> 00:11:32,006 That's it. It'll always be my hideaway tree. 181 00:11:32,067 --> 00:11:33,266 Yeah. 182 00:11:33,360 --> 00:11:34,651 But it's dying now. 183 00:11:36,071 --> 00:11:37,153 It's all dying. 184 00:11:39,574 --> 00:11:41,700 The only thing that danita's ever done 185 00:11:42,285 --> 00:11:44,077 is to take care of her boys. 186 00:11:45,414 --> 00:11:46,955 I can't fathom this. 187 00:11:48,199 --> 00:11:50,600 I can't fathom... I'm an investigator. 188 00:11:51,962 --> 00:11:54,295 I did 30 years with the fort worth police department. 189 00:11:56,299 --> 00:11:59,609 If you're gonna look at a situation, investigate it, 190 00:12:00,095 --> 00:12:01,511 from top to bottom. 191 00:12:03,432 --> 00:12:05,306 How can you be guilty of 192 00:12:06,309 --> 00:12:09,352 taking care of your children? 193 00:12:10,814 --> 00:12:12,105 And that's what this is. 194 00:12:21,616 --> 00:12:26,769 Danita is charged with deceiving doctors 195 00:12:27,789 --> 00:12:30,731 into performing unnecessary surgeries, 196 00:12:31,334 --> 00:12:35,069 which were, in fact, harmful to her child. 197 00:12:35,130 --> 00:12:36,829 So, I wanna know, 198 00:12:36,923 --> 00:12:39,240 were these obviously unnecessary surgeries? 199 00:12:39,301 --> 00:12:41,760 'Cause if they weren't even unnecessary surgeries, 200 00:12:41,920 --> 00:12:44,763 then the accusation, you know, 201 00:12:45,766 --> 00:12:48,224 falls on the first prong. I mean, it's not even close. 202 00:12:49,436 --> 00:12:51,752 I'm worried about the fact that 203 00:12:51,813 --> 00:12:54,931 doctors, who people hold in high esteem, 204 00:12:55,525 --> 00:12:56,816 are the accusers. 205 00:12:57,778 --> 00:12:59,685 They have automatic credibility. 206 00:12:59,780 --> 00:13:01,187 It's kind of like police officers. 207 00:13:01,281 --> 00:13:03,931 Jurors start out believing police officers, 208 00:13:03,992 --> 00:13:06,117 and they're going to start out believing 209 00:13:06,277 --> 00:13:07,827 these medical professionals. 210 00:13:23,887 --> 00:13:25,619 Hello. -Good morning. 211 00:13:25,680 --> 00:13:27,030 Good morning, doctor. Come on in. Nice to see y'all. 212 00:13:27,057 --> 00:13:28,473 How are you? Doing great. 213 00:13:28,633 --> 00:13:29,516 How you doing? Nice to meet you all. You first. 214 00:13:31,394 --> 00:13:32,018 You're too nice to me. Finally. Come on in. 215 00:13:34,022 --> 00:13:35,555 We're primarily concerned 216 00:13:35,649 --> 00:13:37,649 about the surgical procedures 217 00:13:37,809 --> 00:13:38,983 that are named in the indictment. 218 00:13:39,143 --> 00:13:41,635 Is there a case 219 00:13:41,696 --> 00:13:44,906 for the ileostomy to be, 220 00:13:45,992 --> 00:13:48,051 unnecessary? 221 00:13:48,078 --> 00:13:50,720 I don't think you'd have a case at all for this. 222 00:13:51,081 --> 00:13:54,223 Ileostomies, it's a fairly simple procedure. 223 00:13:54,251 --> 00:13:55,908 It's like, okay, they'd gone through 224 00:13:56,002 --> 00:13:58,244 all the normal, non-surgical interventions 225 00:13:58,338 --> 00:14:00,563 for chronic and recurrent constipation, 226 00:14:00,590 --> 00:14:03,174 let's try just to bypass the colon altogether. 227 00:14:03,334 --> 00:14:05,343 So, let's give his colon a break, 228 00:14:05,503 --> 00:14:09,088 you know, and make it not to have to do anything, basically, for a while. 229 00:14:09,182 --> 00:14:11,850 Um, and if it works we can reattach it, you know? 230 00:14:12,010 --> 00:14:14,501 Ileostomy takedowns are a normal procedure 231 00:14:14,563 --> 00:14:16,503 for a pediatric gi doctor. 232 00:14:16,565 --> 00:14:19,248 To me, that was the logical progression. Right. 233 00:14:19,276 --> 00:14:21,934 It's not risky, it's not dangerous, it's certainly messy. 234 00:14:22,028 --> 00:14:24,845 You have to deal with the whole bags and poop and all that fun stuff. 235 00:14:24,906 --> 00:14:26,422 But it's, um... 236 00:14:26,449 --> 00:14:28,682 I thought it was a reasonable thing to do at the time. 237 00:14:28,743 --> 00:14:30,535 So it was totally reasonable? -Yeah. 238 00:14:31,746 --> 00:14:33,930 And... You're not going to make a surgeon do anything, anyways. 239 00:14:34,699 --> 00:14:37,266 You know, I mean, we have to justify what we do 240 00:14:37,294 --> 00:14:40,286 to our peers, we have to justify to insurance companies. 241 00:14:40,797 --> 00:14:42,605 If things go bad, 242 00:14:42,632 --> 00:14:45,608 if this child dies in surgery or there's some complication, 243 00:14:45,635 --> 00:14:47,552 and it goes to court, how do I justify this? 244 00:14:47,712 --> 00:14:50,463 Right. And his ileostomy is easily justifiable. 245 00:14:51,141 --> 00:14:53,040 I mean, I don't understand 246 00:14:53,101 --> 00:14:55,560 why this is a criminal case at all, to be honest with you. 247 00:14:55,720 --> 00:14:57,637 I mean, it's certainly not every child's story. 248 00:14:57,731 --> 00:14:59,789 Most kids never go to the hospital at all, 249 00:15:00,391 --> 00:15:03,459 but in a former preemie, genetic child, 250 00:15:03,486 --> 00:15:05,111 I mean, this is pretty typical. 251 00:15:06,406 --> 00:15:07,488 Wow. 252 00:15:10,911 --> 00:15:13,803 He is so smart, and so level-headed, 253 00:15:14,414 --> 00:15:16,247 and has such common sense. 254 00:15:16,407 --> 00:15:18,399 I just wish the other doctors 255 00:15:19,243 --> 00:15:22,161 and other people involved in this 256 00:15:22,255 --> 00:15:24,981 had as much common sense and was level-headed as him, 257 00:15:25,008 --> 00:15:26,983 and we wouldn't be here now. 258 00:15:27,010 --> 00:15:29,576 Yeah, he's like, "I just can't believe this is a criminal case." But... 259 00:15:30,472 --> 00:15:32,305 You're right. -Yeah, but here we are. 260 00:15:33,767 --> 00:15:34,724 Here we are. 261 00:15:39,689 --> 00:15:40,997 Say hi, Colby. 262 00:15:41,524 --> 00:15:42,999 He's a little sleepy. 263 00:15:43,434 --> 00:15:45,652 Colby, say hi. Hi! 264 00:15:48,323 --> 00:15:49,697 Hi, Colby. 265 00:15:50,784 --> 00:15:52,075 Wow! 266 00:15:54,454 --> 00:15:58,122 Colby's primary problem was being able to eliminate waste. 267 00:15:58,875 --> 00:16:01,184 But the worst part of Colby's life 268 00:16:01,211 --> 00:16:04,611 was this six-month period of time 269 00:16:04,673 --> 00:16:09,884 that started around August and September of 2015. 270 00:16:19,813 --> 00:16:21,980 This is at the point when they tell danita 271 00:16:22,140 --> 00:16:24,524 that Colby is terminal. 272 00:16:26,027 --> 00:16:30,637 That he needed to go to hospice, and they're stunned. 273 00:16:30,699 --> 00:16:32,806 Colby has always survived every... 274 00:16:32,867 --> 00:16:35,642 Every problem he's ever had. 275 00:16:35,704 --> 00:16:38,888 And in order to be referred to hospice, 276 00:16:38,915 --> 00:16:43,150 there has to be a, prognosis by the doctor 277 00:16:43,211 --> 00:16:47,079 that the kid's got six months or less to live. 278 00:16:47,173 --> 00:16:49,582 And this was very, very devastating 279 00:16:49,676 --> 00:16:52,260 to danita and Clint and her entire family. 280 00:17:03,690 --> 00:17:06,415 Today, we're just going to talk about what you know, 281 00:17:06,443 --> 00:17:10,236 and then prepare you for trial and what we're actually gonna ask. 282 00:17:11,740 --> 00:17:14,423 So it's back in the hospital, 283 00:17:14,451 --> 00:17:17,927 they came in and said, "well, there's nothing else we can do for him. 284 00:17:17,954 --> 00:17:19,871 "We're going to have to bring in palliative." 285 00:17:21,124 --> 00:17:23,599 That was a shock to everybody. Because... 286 00:17:23,626 --> 00:17:25,935 They had a plan, they told US, 287 00:17:25,962 --> 00:17:30,122 "well, you know, okay, we could do the ileostomy, but..." 288 00:17:31,259 --> 00:17:33,442 If that doesn't work, they could take his colon out. Yeah. 289 00:17:34,212 --> 00:17:36,054 Yeah, they never said, "well, if this doesn't work..." 290 00:17:37,390 --> 00:17:39,298 "We're done." They never said that. It was all rosy. 291 00:17:39,392 --> 00:17:41,951 "This is going to improve his life. 292 00:17:41,978 --> 00:17:43,953 "This is gonna fix the problem." 293 00:17:43,980 --> 00:17:46,956 And then they go, "nothing else we can do."- 294 00:17:47,442 --> 00:17:49,125 "we're just gonna have to bring in palliative care." 295 00:17:49,152 --> 00:17:51,051 I was like, "wait, wait, wait. 296 00:17:51,112 --> 00:17:54,297 "That's for... that's for people that are on hospice. 297 00:17:54,324 --> 00:17:56,799 "That's for, um, older people. 298 00:17:56,826 --> 00:17:59,744 "That's for, um, cancer people." 299 00:17:59,904 --> 00:18:03,322 "That's, you know, what... This is... this is a 13-year-old child 300 00:18:03,416 --> 00:18:04,707 "that you said..." 301 00:18:05,835 --> 00:18:07,568 Yeah. You know, "this is the fix." 302 00:18:07,629 --> 00:18:10,171 Right. And how do you go from there to, "he's dying"? 303 00:18:15,637 --> 00:18:17,911 I don't think Colby was terminal at all. 304 00:18:18,473 --> 00:18:21,173 I think that Colby was sick. 305 00:18:21,601 --> 00:18:23,267 He was definitely sick. 306 00:18:23,427 --> 00:18:26,662 And the injustice that was done to danita tutt 307 00:18:26,689 --> 00:18:28,831 was done to her by the doctors 308 00:18:28,858 --> 00:18:31,818 at cook's children's hospital in fort worth, Texas. 309 00:18:34,614 --> 00:18:37,264 That's when they said, "there's nothing else we can do. 310 00:18:37,325 --> 00:18:38,932 "There's not another surgery we can do. 311 00:18:38,993 --> 00:18:41,694 "There's not another fix we can do, but he's terminal." 312 00:18:41,788 --> 00:18:44,196 And really, that's what brought about 313 00:18:44,290 --> 00:18:47,083 this whole nightmare for danita. 314 00:19:02,466 --> 00:19:07,794 Ronald McDonald house is a place that is located near the hospital, 315 00:19:07,856 --> 00:19:11,540 so that people who travel, who have sick loved ones, 316 00:19:11,568 --> 00:19:13,192 don't have to stay in a hotel. 317 00:19:16,364 --> 00:19:18,364 You okay, danita? Yes. 318 00:19:21,202 --> 00:19:23,552 Ronald McDonald house let Connie 319 00:19:23,580 --> 00:19:27,540 have a room where she can take her... her sick ones to pass away. 320 00:19:28,418 --> 00:19:30,168 Connie said to danita, 321 00:19:30,328 --> 00:19:32,170 "we'll move him to Ronald McDonald 322 00:19:32,330 --> 00:19:33,671 "and he can pass away there." 323 00:19:44,225 --> 00:19:46,350 To be accused of hurting my own son, 324 00:19:46,510 --> 00:19:48,594 I literally want to throw up. 325 00:19:49,272 --> 00:19:52,690 It breaks my heart and shatters it into a million pieces. 326 00:19:59,023 --> 00:20:01,348 It's okay, danita. I'm so sorry. 327 00:20:02,360 --> 00:20:03,850 Maybe it wasn't a good idea to bring you here. 328 00:20:03,912 --> 00:20:06,037 No, I'll be fine. I've just gotta get a minute. 329 00:20:17,634 --> 00:20:19,425 How are you, buddy? Good. 330 00:20:21,212 --> 00:20:22,611 This is a very close family. 331 00:20:23,047 --> 00:20:26,873 And they're all witnesses to 332 00:20:27,718 --> 00:20:31,470 some key conversations and exchanges of information 333 00:20:31,564 --> 00:20:35,757 that the state's witnesses may now try to deny. 334 00:20:36,611 --> 00:20:38,127 We were down there every day. 335 00:20:38,905 --> 00:20:41,130 Every day that he was at hospice? Right. 336 00:20:41,157 --> 00:20:42,465 So you're there every day. 337 00:20:42,492 --> 00:20:44,984 Did she starve him in your presence? 338 00:20:45,078 --> 00:20:47,894 No. Never. -Did you ever see him eat? 339 00:20:47,956 --> 00:20:50,973 There was always food there for him to eat.- 340 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:52,808 but when you look at your daughter, 341 00:20:52,835 --> 00:20:57,571 do you see any truth to those allegations? 342 00:20:57,632 --> 00:21:01,000 I had a 40-year career in this field, 343 00:21:01,094 --> 00:21:04,095 and if it was something that I suspected, 344 00:21:04,255 --> 00:21:06,305 I would have been the first to jump on it. 345 00:21:07,976 --> 00:21:10,309 Daughter or no daughter? Daughter, no daughter. 346 00:21:12,105 --> 00:21:14,680 Connie... she's the one that cut everything off, 347 00:21:14,774 --> 00:21:16,256 no food or drinks. 348 00:21:16,317 --> 00:21:19,402 But I continued to bring him food and drink. 349 00:21:21,322 --> 00:21:22,321 Then on may 4th, 350 00:21:23,783 --> 00:21:25,825 Connie wants to have a family meeting. 351 00:21:27,111 --> 00:21:28,861 She said, "two weeks ago, I was positive 352 00:21:28,955 --> 00:21:31,772 "Colby was dying of sepsis..." Blood disorder. 353 00:21:32,792 --> 00:21:35,584 "The blood infection has miraculously disappeared." 354 00:21:37,130 --> 00:21:39,705 Boom. These are her exact words. 355 00:21:40,958 --> 00:21:43,617 "She stated that she did not know how this happened 356 00:21:43,678 --> 00:21:47,196 "because Colby had not had a full course of antibiotics." 357 00:21:47,223 --> 00:21:49,031 Here we're sitting here, 358 00:21:49,633 --> 00:21:51,809 we've got a son that we think is dying... 359 00:21:53,229 --> 00:21:54,854 And all of a sudden, 360 00:21:56,190 --> 00:21:58,065 he's miraculously cured. 361 00:21:59,068 --> 00:22:01,301 This is when she stated 362 00:22:01,362 --> 00:22:03,896 she wanted all of US to leave while they observed 363 00:22:04,574 --> 00:22:07,325 Colby alone for three days and nights. 364 00:22:09,871 --> 00:22:11,162 We left him there that day. 365 00:22:13,491 --> 00:22:15,624 Clint and danita called me, 366 00:22:17,328 --> 00:22:18,252 and says, 367 00:22:19,672 --> 00:22:20,504 "we can't do this. 368 00:22:22,258 --> 00:22:23,657 "We wanna go get Colby." 369 00:22:24,052 --> 00:22:25,659 Now, this is not a hospital. 370 00:22:26,670 --> 00:22:29,238 This is not signing anybody in and out or anything like that. 371 00:22:29,265 --> 00:22:30,473 This is a come-and-go place. 372 00:22:33,561 --> 00:22:34,518 And I told them, 373 00:22:35,772 --> 00:22:36,854 "do what you need to do." 374 00:22:45,448 --> 00:22:46,589 You gotta look at this. 375 00:22:47,358 --> 00:22:49,683 Connie has led these people down the path 376 00:22:51,028 --> 00:22:53,112 of, "your kid is dying, you need to make the funeral arrangements." 377 00:22:53,873 --> 00:22:56,707 She has led them down the path of death... 378 00:22:57,710 --> 00:22:59,192 And Colby's starting to look a little better. 379 00:22:59,462 --> 00:23:00,769 Danita's furious. 380 00:23:01,372 --> 00:23:02,955 'Cause she still thinks he's dying, 381 00:23:03,049 --> 00:23:05,174 although she's asking, "why is he eating?" 382 00:23:06,594 --> 00:23:08,844 I think Connie got a little worried about Connie. 383 00:23:51,255 --> 00:23:53,580 Danita called. She says, 384 00:23:54,642 --> 00:23:56,725 "somebody's here again. There's two ladies at my door." 385 00:23:58,020 --> 00:23:59,311 She says, "I think it's cps." 386 00:24:00,690 --> 00:24:03,590 I thought it was no big deal, 387 00:24:03,651 --> 00:24:07,686 because there hadn't been any type of abuse at all, ever. 388 00:24:08,948 --> 00:24:12,599 And so, I just assumed we would explain what went on, and they would 389 00:24:12,660 --> 00:24:14,243 make their report and get back to US. 390 00:24:15,663 --> 00:24:16,745 And then, all of a sudden, he's gone. 391 00:24:26,007 --> 00:24:28,448 A 13-year-old with complex medical issues 392 00:24:28,509 --> 00:24:31,376 since birth, and a mother devoted to his care. 393 00:24:32,129 --> 00:24:34,305 But child services have now taken that boy 394 00:24:34,465 --> 00:24:37,866 away from his home, and the mother has been arrested. 395 00:24:38,978 --> 00:24:40,478 Colby and his younger brother have both been 396 00:24:40,638 --> 00:24:42,396 taken into cps custody. 397 00:24:44,066 --> 00:24:45,483 We cried every night... 398 00:24:46,486 --> 00:24:48,068 Because we had no idea where they took him. 399 00:24:49,989 --> 00:24:52,281 Can you imagine not knowing where your child is? 400 00:25:18,768 --> 00:25:20,075 That should tell you all you need to know. 401 00:25:20,102 --> 00:25:22,978 If cps is dismissing their case, there is no case. 402 00:25:24,690 --> 00:25:26,899 But yet, the district attorney 403 00:25:28,686 --> 00:25:30,361 continues with the prosecution. 404 00:25:43,033 --> 00:25:46,618 What I'm looking at now are Facebook posts 405 00:25:47,797 --> 00:25:50,881 that they have gathered as part of their investigation. 406 00:25:52,218 --> 00:25:56,220 And, this one here, for example... 407 00:25:56,806 --> 00:25:58,630 "What an amazing night for wings of hope. 408 00:25:58,724 --> 00:26:02,542 "Colby was recognized and did a speech 409 00:26:03,271 --> 00:26:05,804 "that came straight from his heart. So proud and amazed 410 00:26:05,898 --> 00:26:08,640 "at the journey our son has been on and overcome. 411 00:26:08,734 --> 00:26:10,150 "Thank you to everyone who came." 412 00:26:12,446 --> 00:26:13,904 They're trying to paint a picture here 413 00:26:14,448 --> 00:26:18,058 of someone who, 24/7 is talking about 414 00:26:18,828 --> 00:26:20,995 her son's medically fragile condition. 415 00:26:22,415 --> 00:26:24,773 Even if she were talking about it 24/7, 416 00:26:25,501 --> 00:26:26,875 so what? Why is that a crime? 417 00:26:37,263 --> 00:26:39,504 They're saying she fits this profile, 418 00:26:39,599 --> 00:26:41,247 this thing that they're calling 419 00:26:41,601 --> 00:26:43,767 Munchausen by proxy syndrome. 420 00:26:43,927 --> 00:26:48,606 In essence, she is the kind of person 421 00:26:49,266 --> 00:26:52,610 who enjoys the attention, 422 00:26:54,104 --> 00:26:56,855 that comes with having a child 423 00:26:57,450 --> 00:26:58,699 who is medically fragile 424 00:27:00,611 --> 00:27:05,438 and therefore, exaggerates symptoms or fabricates symptoms 425 00:27:06,375 --> 00:27:11,186 in order to induce doctors to perform these medical procedures 426 00:27:11,213 --> 00:27:14,857 that in turn, get her this attention 427 00:27:15,843 --> 00:27:19,544 that people who suffer from this syndrome supposedly crave. 428 00:27:20,130 --> 00:27:22,122 If they can put that label on her, 429 00:27:22,183 --> 00:27:23,382 basically, in their mind, 430 00:27:23,476 --> 00:27:25,184 that's going to prove that she's guilty. 431 00:27:34,487 --> 00:27:35,819 We're now joined by Dr. Jamye coffman, 432 00:27:35,979 --> 00:27:37,713 who is a child abuse pediatrician 433 00:27:37,740 --> 00:27:39,898 at cook's children's medical center in fort worth. 434 00:27:40,576 --> 00:27:42,718 What are you doing that others aren't doing? 435 00:27:42,745 --> 00:27:44,386 Well, what we have at our institution, 436 00:27:44,413 --> 00:27:46,221 we have a case management system, 437 00:27:46,248 --> 00:27:49,315 and if they have concern, they'll send the cases to me. 438 00:27:50,044 --> 00:27:53,170 And I review them, and I have five to 10 of those 439 00:27:53,330 --> 00:27:54,838 a month on my desk that I'm reviewing. 440 00:27:54,998 --> 00:27:56,840 Five to 10 a month? Yes. 441 00:27:57,000 --> 00:27:58,250 Yes, that we're reviewing. 442 00:27:58,719 --> 00:28:01,086 And then out of those, about one a month 443 00:28:01,180 --> 00:28:02,471 rise to the level to be reported. 444 00:28:06,102 --> 00:28:09,912 Interestingly enough, we have this little flood 445 00:28:09,939 --> 00:28:12,505 of Munchausen by proxy cases 446 00:28:13,067 --> 00:28:14,599 coming from cook's children's hospital 447 00:28:14,694 --> 00:28:16,527 to the tarrant county da's office. 448 00:28:18,114 --> 00:28:20,923 When I got this case and I was kind of researching it, 449 00:28:20,950 --> 00:28:23,759 I found that there have only been like two convictions 450 00:28:23,786 --> 00:28:25,369 throughout the whole United States. 451 00:28:27,039 --> 00:28:29,448 And you have to ask yourself, "well, if this is very rare, 452 00:28:29,542 --> 00:28:31,750 "why such an overflow in tarrant county?" 453 00:28:33,754 --> 00:28:36,029 And, of course, I've looked deeper into that 454 00:28:36,090 --> 00:28:38,882 and I know the answer, that we've got this doctor 455 00:28:39,042 --> 00:28:41,443 over at cook's children's hospital. 456 00:28:42,212 --> 00:28:46,965 A Munchausen expert, and she comes to court for everything 457 00:28:47,059 --> 00:28:50,894 the district attorney's office needs, and they have now 458 00:28:51,054 --> 00:28:53,455 convicted somewhere in the neighborhood of five women 459 00:28:54,275 --> 00:28:56,900 of these crimes, and saying that they're crazy 460 00:28:57,060 --> 00:28:58,569 by having Munchausen by proxy. 461 00:29:02,158 --> 00:29:03,223 How about I blow, you tie? 462 00:29:03,284 --> 00:29:04,199 I'll tie. 463 00:29:06,495 --> 00:29:08,895 It is Colby's 16th birthday, 464 00:29:08,956 --> 00:29:11,915 and he's been telling everyone that he's getting a car 465 00:29:12,075 --> 00:29:13,417 for his birthday and he's going to 466 00:29:13,577 --> 00:29:15,494 come pick everybody up and drive them around. 467 00:29:18,966 --> 00:29:22,075 You know, we wanna try and have some kind of normalcy. 468 00:29:22,136 --> 00:29:24,011 We wanna have a little, you know, some kind of fun. 469 00:29:25,264 --> 00:29:26,263 We need to be able to 470 00:29:27,767 --> 00:29:30,601 live like we're not dying inside all the time. 471 00:29:34,273 --> 00:29:36,023 Have I thought about if I was found guilty? 472 00:29:36,984 --> 00:29:38,442 Yeah. I mean, 473 00:29:39,195 --> 00:29:40,277 you're talking about 474 00:29:40,437 --> 00:29:42,170 never getting to see our boys, 475 00:29:42,948 --> 00:29:44,656 never getting to attend another birthday party. 476 00:29:45,868 --> 00:29:46,950 No christmases. 477 00:29:47,453 --> 00:29:48,677 No Thanksgiving. 478 00:29:48,704 --> 00:29:49,870 No cuddles at night. 479 00:29:52,115 --> 00:29:53,373 No life at all. 480 00:29:57,287 --> 00:29:58,796 Colby, how old are you today? 481 00:29:58,956 --> 00:29:59,838 How old are you? Sixteen. 482 00:30:00,841 --> 00:30:01,965 Sixteen. 483 00:30:04,386 --> 00:30:05,636 Make a wish. 484 00:30:18,475 --> 00:30:19,691 I did everything right, 485 00:30:20,736 --> 00:30:22,486 and here I am in this mess. 486 00:30:23,739 --> 00:30:24,880 My heart is racing, 487 00:30:24,907 --> 00:30:26,490 my legs are shaking. 488 00:30:27,368 --> 00:30:28,733 It's emotionally hard. 489 00:30:28,828 --> 00:30:30,643 Why... how wouldn't it be emotionally hard? 490 00:30:30,704 --> 00:30:31,978 I'm the... I'm a mother, 491 00:30:32,331 --> 00:30:33,405 but, you know, for the first time, 492 00:30:33,749 --> 00:30:34,998 we get to tell our story. 493 00:30:37,211 --> 00:30:38,410 What's at stake is 494 00:30:38,504 --> 00:30:39,878 two little boys not having their mom, 495 00:30:41,507 --> 00:30:43,173 the disruption of the whole family. 496 00:30:43,592 --> 00:30:45,067 This is life-changing, 497 00:30:45,094 --> 00:30:47,160 this can ruin her marriage, 498 00:30:47,504 --> 00:30:49,087 her freedom, her ability to 499 00:30:49,181 --> 00:30:50,238 see her kids, 500 00:30:50,432 --> 00:30:52,015 to raise them... yeah, 501 00:30:52,852 --> 00:30:54,184 everything's at stake here. 502 00:31:06,907 --> 00:31:08,423 You're critiqued on the way your hair is, 503 00:31:08,450 --> 00:31:10,033 you're critiqued on the way you move, 504 00:31:10,193 --> 00:31:11,851 if you flinch or if you blink... 505 00:31:11,912 --> 00:31:13,595 I mean, I'm being critiqued on almost everything. 506 00:31:14,623 --> 00:31:16,264 Most times I feel like I wanna vomit, 507 00:31:16,292 --> 00:31:18,166 and the other times I feel I just wanna cry my eyes out. 508 00:31:28,137 --> 00:31:30,220 Well, it's been kind of a crazy week. 509 00:31:30,764 --> 00:31:32,055 We tore up the doctors. 510 00:31:32,215 --> 00:31:34,141 Not a single doctor got on the stand 511 00:31:34,768 --> 00:31:36,301 and said, 512 00:31:36,395 --> 00:31:38,470 "she said he was in pain, and that's a lie." 513 00:31:39,389 --> 00:31:40,439 They... they didn't call you a liar. 514 00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:44,292 Um, and not a single doctor said 515 00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:45,977 they so relied 516 00:31:46,071 --> 00:31:48,296 upon any statement made by you 517 00:31:48,899 --> 00:31:51,575 that that caused them to perform an unnecessary surgery. 518 00:31:51,735 --> 00:31:55,395 So that's... That's great in our favor. 519 00:31:55,831 --> 00:31:56,821 We've had a good week. 520 00:31:57,791 --> 00:31:59,808 That doesn't mean next week is gonna be, 521 00:32:00,336 --> 00:32:02,628 you know... we're gonna take blows, okay? 522 00:32:03,505 --> 00:32:05,172 Okay. I'll see you Monday. 523 00:32:21,857 --> 00:32:23,231 I feel like we had a good week. 524 00:32:25,986 --> 00:32:27,819 I feel like the lies are starting to be exposed. 525 00:32:29,949 --> 00:32:31,597 I feel like the truth is starting to come out, 526 00:32:31,659 --> 00:32:34,100 and I feel like everybody that's in that courtroom is 527 00:32:34,161 --> 00:32:35,911 getting to see a whole different side of the story. 528 00:32:37,039 --> 00:32:38,604 Does it hurt? Yeah, it hurts. 529 00:32:38,666 --> 00:32:40,532 Am I taking hard blows? Yeah, I'm taking hard blows. 530 00:32:41,210 --> 00:32:42,608 Do I just wanna, you know, 531 00:32:42,670 --> 00:32:45,036 crawl out of my skin and run away? Yeah... 532 00:32:45,130 --> 00:32:47,355 But I have to sit there and I have to take it, 533 00:32:47,883 --> 00:32:49,216 and I have to be as strong as I can be. 534 00:32:52,304 --> 00:32:54,120 Because I've stood on the truth from day one, 535 00:32:54,181 --> 00:32:55,514 and I'm still standing to this day. 536 00:33:14,651 --> 00:33:16,243 Okay. 537 00:33:19,081 --> 00:33:20,739 It was so good yesterday. 538 00:33:21,208 --> 00:33:22,624 You know, we got Connie! 539 00:33:23,210 --> 00:33:24,559 And then, 540 00:33:24,586 --> 00:33:26,152 we get up today, and we 541 00:33:26,213 --> 00:33:27,746 get more of Connie, 542 00:33:28,090 --> 00:33:29,989 and I felt like it was okay. 543 00:33:30,718 --> 00:33:32,992 So they had one witness left, 544 00:33:33,721 --> 00:33:36,071 and Dr. Jamye coffman is their clean-up lady. 545 00:33:36,673 --> 00:33:39,182 I know when I'm getting hit, 546 00:33:39,342 --> 00:33:41,667 and we haven't really taken a punch. 547 00:33:41,729 --> 00:33:43,428 No. 548 00:33:43,522 --> 00:33:46,672 But jamye coffman is there to throw that punch. 549 00:33:46,734 --> 00:33:47,932 Right. -She sure is. 550 00:33:48,027 --> 00:33:51,102 She claims she's gone through 11,000, 12,000 551 00:33:51,196 --> 00:33:52,446 medical records, 552 00:33:53,282 --> 00:33:54,589 and then she's gone back 553 00:33:55,534 --> 00:33:57,701 and looked at your Facebook posts...- 554 00:33:57,861 --> 00:33:59,369 ...and she's found a discrepancy, 555 00:33:59,955 --> 00:34:01,613 and therefore you're a liar. 556 00:34:01,707 --> 00:34:03,615 And if you're a liar in your Facebook posts, 557 00:34:03,709 --> 00:34:04,916 you're a liar to the doctor. 558 00:34:05,961 --> 00:34:07,435 And if you lied to the doctor, 559 00:34:07,463 --> 00:34:08,378 then you must be guilty. 560 00:34:09,757 --> 00:34:10,863 But everything that somebody told me, 561 00:34:10,924 --> 00:34:12,440 is what I put on Facebook. -Right. 562 00:34:12,468 --> 00:34:13,884 And they may or may not be 563 00:34:14,044 --> 00:34:15,610 reflected in the records. Correct. 564 00:34:15,971 --> 00:34:17,554 So, looks like 29, 565 00:34:18,432 --> 00:34:20,706 instances that she says 566 00:34:20,768 --> 00:34:22,726 are gonna be lies, 567 00:34:23,386 --> 00:34:25,970 to get attention because of Colby's problem. 568 00:34:26,065 --> 00:34:28,548 So, let's see what the Facebook post says, 569 00:34:29,059 --> 00:34:30,776 and then let's look for a medical record 570 00:34:31,487 --> 00:34:32,627 that we could argue 571 00:34:32,988 --> 00:34:34,488 supports your Facebook post. 572 00:34:39,119 --> 00:34:41,394 Mechanical malfunction of the button device. 573 00:34:42,405 --> 00:34:44,306 Just 'cause I didn't post on the day we did it, 574 00:34:44,333 --> 00:34:45,898 I post a few days after. 575 00:34:45,959 --> 00:34:47,992 That's fine. If the Facebook post says it, 576 00:34:48,837 --> 00:34:50,662 this medical record says it too. 577 00:34:51,632 --> 00:34:53,423 At least 20 blood transfusions. Twenty. 578 00:34:55,752 --> 00:34:58,419 Twenty-one, 22, 23... She's pulling things out of her butt now. 579 00:34:59,589 --> 00:35:01,080 Tellin' you, she's writing whatever she wants 580 00:35:01,517 --> 00:35:02,474 for the district attorney. 581 00:35:03,260 --> 00:35:04,309 Can I see that? Yes. 582 00:35:06,271 --> 00:35:07,604 Let's keep everything together. 583 00:35:07,764 --> 00:35:09,439 This, this is not from this book. 584 00:35:09,599 --> 00:35:10,923 Okay, now wait a minute, 585 00:35:11,443 --> 00:35:12,484 let's get something straight. 586 00:35:14,437 --> 00:35:15,837 You don't pull from that book and hand Mike ware anything... 587 00:35:15,864 --> 00:35:17,339 Well, no, he asked for... We'll never find it. 588 00:35:17,366 --> 00:35:19,265 Okay. This is going to have to be organized. 589 00:35:19,660 --> 00:35:20,842 Okay. Okay? 590 00:35:21,111 --> 00:35:22,694 This is not panic time. 591 00:35:23,780 --> 00:35:25,680 Okay, this is hold your together. 592 00:35:25,707 --> 00:35:26,832 Yeah. Okay? 593 00:35:35,300 --> 00:35:36,216 Amen. 594 00:35:46,395 --> 00:35:48,145 She came in for one thing and one thing only, 595 00:35:48,305 --> 00:35:50,963 to, you know, accuse me of Munchausen. 596 00:35:51,474 --> 00:35:53,041 She's not a psychologist. 597 00:35:53,068 --> 00:35:54,559 She's not a psychiatrist. 598 00:35:54,653 --> 00:35:56,728 And I think Terri did a very good job of 599 00:35:56,822 --> 00:35:58,546 making that known to the jury 600 00:35:58,574 --> 00:35:59,739 that, "you're not qualified." 601 00:36:04,246 --> 00:36:05,737 I think the last few days, 602 00:36:05,831 --> 00:36:07,914 we've done our best to tell danita's story. 603 00:36:09,209 --> 00:36:11,393 We have taken such an aggressive 604 00:36:11,420 --> 00:36:13,319 plan, to call witnesses 605 00:36:13,380 --> 00:36:14,504 and defeat this. 606 00:36:15,382 --> 00:36:16,822 I don't see 607 00:36:16,884 --> 00:36:19,217 the evidence to convict her. I do not. 608 00:36:20,929 --> 00:36:22,404 Okay, so, 609 00:36:22,431 --> 00:36:24,830 let's just kind of reassess where we are, guys. 610 00:36:25,392 --> 00:36:27,166 It's Friday afternoon, it's the end of three weeks 611 00:36:27,227 --> 00:36:28,226 of jury trial. 612 00:36:29,188 --> 00:36:30,520 Jury's sitting there wondering, 613 00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:32,764 "how much more of this am I gonna hear?" 614 00:36:32,858 --> 00:36:34,840 And, you know, we have a lot of witnesses 615 00:36:34,902 --> 00:36:36,193 that we can still call. 616 00:36:37,187 --> 00:36:39,011 Let's think about the big picture. 617 00:36:39,072 --> 00:36:40,772 Um, 618 00:36:40,866 --> 00:36:42,699 they're gonna put on some kind of rebuttal. 619 00:36:43,952 --> 00:36:46,686 So, any further witnesses we put on 620 00:36:46,747 --> 00:36:48,020 has to be with that in mind. 621 00:36:48,081 --> 00:36:49,097 That's right. 622 00:36:49,124 --> 00:36:50,432 And any, 623 00:36:50,459 --> 00:36:51,875 weaknesses they have 624 00:36:52,035 --> 00:36:53,952 or exposure they have on cross-examination 625 00:36:54,254 --> 00:36:55,695 has to be 626 00:36:55,756 --> 00:36:57,881 kept in mind when we make that decision too. 627 00:36:59,092 --> 00:37:01,301 Danita, I assume it's still very much your choice not to testify. 628 00:37:05,098 --> 00:37:07,140 But I know the story better than anybody. 629 00:37:08,718 --> 00:37:10,042 I know what was said to me, 630 00:37:10,887 --> 00:37:12,878 I know what he was eating and drinking. 631 00:37:12,940 --> 00:37:14,564 Danita, don't. 632 00:37:19,279 --> 00:37:20,737 They would hang you out to dry. 633 00:37:22,074 --> 00:37:23,281 It would be all about your Facebook. 634 00:37:26,403 --> 00:37:28,561 Is it a crime to vent to people? 635 00:37:28,622 --> 00:37:30,655 Is it a crime to talk to support groups? It is now. 636 00:37:30,749 --> 00:37:32,290 You also know what they would do with it. 637 00:37:33,168 --> 00:37:34,167 Yeah. Yeah. 638 00:37:39,341 --> 00:37:42,092 Even though I could tell the story better than anybody, 639 00:37:42,844 --> 00:37:45,487 I'm not going to let them 640 00:37:45,514 --> 00:37:46,930 sink their claws into me 641 00:37:47,090 --> 00:37:49,415 for days, trying to rip me apart, 642 00:37:49,476 --> 00:37:51,935 more than what they've tried to rip me apart already. 643 00:37:52,095 --> 00:37:54,437 I think it's wise. I think you don't put yourself through that. 644 00:37:54,597 --> 00:37:55,647 You've gone through enough. 645 00:37:57,526 --> 00:37:58,650 We're gonna win. 646 00:37:59,945 --> 00:38:01,027 I can tell you. 647 00:38:12,124 --> 00:38:13,939 They have not brought forth 648 00:38:14,001 --> 00:38:15,608 any credible evidence 649 00:38:15,952 --> 00:38:17,002 to convict danita. 650 00:38:20,290 --> 00:38:22,690 She should be found not guilty so fast, 651 00:38:22,718 --> 00:38:24,342 and that's what haunts me. 652 00:38:31,810 --> 00:38:34,202 This is the worst part of the whole thing. 653 00:38:35,305 --> 00:38:37,188 It's a waiting game, and it's miserable. 654 00:38:39,476 --> 00:38:41,318 My gut twisted all night long. 655 00:38:42,404 --> 00:38:43,820 I don't know if the jury is 656 00:38:44,981 --> 00:38:47,157 sophisticated enough to figure it out. 657 00:38:49,745 --> 00:38:51,644 We have to face, 658 00:38:51,705 --> 00:38:52,662 the "what if." 659 00:38:53,707 --> 00:38:55,498 What if you are found guilty? 660 00:39:00,172 --> 00:39:02,672 I've been honestly hoping that they've put themselves in my shoes. 661 00:39:05,218 --> 00:39:06,509 You know, the only thing I'm guilty of 662 00:39:06,669 --> 00:39:08,252 is going and picking up my son, 663 00:39:08,347 --> 00:39:09,929 you know, and I had every right to do that. 664 00:39:11,350 --> 00:39:12,599 And I'd do it again in a heartbeat. 665 00:39:22,277 --> 00:39:23,234 Unbelievable. 666 00:39:26,073 --> 00:39:28,256 A mother from cleburne has been found guilty, 667 00:39:28,950 --> 00:39:30,617 of starvation and attempted murder. 668 00:39:31,578 --> 00:39:33,261 Danita was found guilty 669 00:39:33,288 --> 00:39:35,455 of counts three and four of the indictment. 670 00:39:36,625 --> 00:39:37,707 She was found not guilty 671 00:39:37,867 --> 00:39:39,084 of counts one and two. 672 00:39:40,087 --> 00:39:40,960 The guilty 673 00:39:41,704 --> 00:39:42,962 was starvation. 674 00:39:45,208 --> 00:39:47,926 And the guilty was attempted murder. 675 00:39:49,388 --> 00:39:51,137 When he read count three and said "guilty," 676 00:39:52,099 --> 00:39:53,473 I instantly got sick and... 677 00:39:54,309 --> 00:39:56,476 Started to cry, and... 678 00:39:57,396 --> 00:39:58,311 My heart 679 00:39:59,815 --> 00:40:01,147 hurt for danita having to sit there and... 680 00:40:02,559 --> 00:40:03,817 Do that and hear that. 681 00:40:04,894 --> 00:40:06,310 We're all feeling, 682 00:40:06,405 --> 00:40:08,405 "did we do everything right for danita?" 683 00:40:09,324 --> 00:40:10,824 It's so heartbreaking. 684 00:40:13,161 --> 00:40:15,653 They will have her in solitary, basically, 685 00:40:16,081 --> 00:40:17,989 and really, 686 00:40:18,083 --> 00:40:19,582 that's for her own protection. 687 00:40:20,743 --> 00:40:22,660 This is, you know, an alleged offense 688 00:40:22,754 --> 00:40:24,254 involving a child. You know, it's... 689 00:40:25,465 --> 00:40:27,498 It's a brutal world inside 690 00:40:27,592 --> 00:40:28,591 the jail. 691 00:40:40,430 --> 00:40:41,587 Are you there, hon? 692 00:40:44,359 --> 00:40:46,258 Yeah. 693 00:40:46,319 --> 00:40:47,861 Love you. 694 00:40:48,864 --> 00:40:49,929 Go ahead, honey. 695 00:41:03,620 --> 00:41:05,203 We will do that. -We will. 696 00:41:05,297 --> 00:41:07,547 And... 697 00:41:15,682 --> 00:41:17,140 Okay, I'll do it. 698 00:41:17,851 --> 00:41:19,225 Stay strong, honey. 699 00:41:21,313 --> 00:41:24,038 All right. All right, wear the full armor. 700 00:41:24,065 --> 00:41:25,890 You remember what... What, 701 00:41:25,984 --> 00:41:27,542 Paul said, 702 00:41:27,569 --> 00:41:28,968 "wear the full armor." 703 00:41:30,489 --> 00:41:31,637 All right, honey. Bye-bye. 704 00:41:41,374 --> 00:41:42,582 God, I'm so angry. 705 00:41:53,094 --> 00:41:55,327 Mom, don't wanna get up... 706 00:41:55,388 --> 00:41:56,829 It's time to... 707 00:41:56,890 --> 00:41:58,097 Happy birthday! 708 00:42:01,853 --> 00:42:02,894 I really, 709 00:42:03,563 --> 00:42:04,929 sincerely, 710 00:42:05,023 --> 00:42:07,098 with every fiber of my being, 711 00:42:07,850 --> 00:42:09,675 believe that there's been 712 00:42:09,736 --> 00:42:11,769 a terrible mistake by the jury here. 713 00:42:11,863 --> 00:42:14,614 They absolutely got it wrong, and... 714 00:42:16,076 --> 00:42:18,426 Those two precious little boys of hers, 715 00:42:18,453 --> 00:42:19,610 her husband, 716 00:42:20,029 --> 00:42:21,538 her mom, her dad, 717 00:42:22,031 --> 00:42:23,948 Clint's parents that live next door, 718 00:42:24,751 --> 00:42:27,693 they're such a tight-knit family, 719 00:42:27,754 --> 00:42:28,711 so close. 720 00:42:29,297 --> 00:42:32,048 And this is going 721 00:42:33,260 --> 00:42:35,218 to harm them all, 722 00:42:36,638 --> 00:42:38,596 not just punishing danita. 723 00:42:40,976 --> 00:42:42,541 Do you see my baby? 724 00:42:42,811 --> 00:42:44,143 Isn't he precious? 54569

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