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It seemed like
every time we turned around,
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they were telling US,
"prepare yourself."
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He wasn't gonna make it.
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To think that somebody
would accuse me
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of wanting to hurt my son,
it just...
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My god, it just killed me.
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If I was found guilty,
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no cuddles at night,
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no story time, no life at all.
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For what?
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For something I didn't even do.
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A cleburne woman
faces allegations
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of medical child abuse,
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including lying
about her son's symptoms,
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leading doctors to perform
unnecessary surgeries.
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She is also accused of starving
her 13-year-old son, Colby,
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who she says has been sick
since birth.
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Police have revealed
that a casket
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and a headstone for Colby
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had been purchased
by the family.
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The allegations
are in an indictment
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which lays out everything
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the prosecution says
she did that's a crime.
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The first two counts are saying
that she fabricated symptoms
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to get doctors
to perform surgeries
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that didn't need
to be performed,
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and that, that injured Colby.
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The third count,
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they say she starved Colby.
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When she read that in my office,
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she completely fell apart.
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And then count four
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is attempted murder.
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They say that she actually,
by doing this,
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attempted to murder her son.
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Look at all his dark hair.
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I wanted to touch him
and hold him so bad.
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But it was like three,
almost four months,
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before I could even hold him.
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When we brought Colby home,
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we came home on a heart machine.
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We came home on oxygen.
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He was nine inches long.
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A child born that tiny,
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you know you're gonna
have problems as you get older.
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It seemed like every time
we turned around,
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they were telling US,
"prepare yourself."
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We just...
We wouldn't give up.
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To this day, we don't give up.
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He's got heart issues.
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He has very low bone density.
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You know, he's got issues
with his kidneys.
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He's got,
gastro reflux disease.
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Sit on the toilet.
Whenever you need to go,
you just say it.
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He takes several things
to try to go to the bathroom.
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Basically, his gi don't work.
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It's just...
It's just not working properly.
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It's never going
to work properly.
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Unfortunately, he's going
to be on medicines
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the rest of his life.
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Colby, look at mommy.
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The doctors told danita
"he's had all these problems,
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"I mean, nothing seems
to be working well for him,
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"and we're afraid we've kind of
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"reached the end of the road
for Colby.
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"There are no more surgeries
that we can do...
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"And we're gonna refer you
to hospice."
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Hi.
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How are you?
Good, how are you?
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Running a little bit late,
sorry.
That's okay.
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I know that you've never been
on trial before for anything,
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and you probably have never even
been in a courtroom
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and seen a real trial happening.
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And you're gonna need
to be strong.
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The most hurtful thing
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is gonna be people are gonna
say things about you, you know?
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And it's gonna
go to your core.
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And I want to toughen you up
to that process.
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Here's an affidavit by Connie.
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"We determined that this child
both desired and could
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"tolerate solid foods and fluids
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"and had minimal reports
of pain.
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"His mother refused to have any
food or drink brought to Colby,
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"stating his eating would only
'prolong the inevitable.'"
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that's what she told me.
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Connie told me that eating
and drinking is prolonging him.
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I didn't know what
"prolonging the inevitable" was
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until she said it to me.
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"Prior to moving Colby
to our suite,
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"mother and father
purchased a casket,
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"headstone, and made
all the funeral arrangements
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"for Colby."
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We would have never
known what to do.
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All the stuff
that she said I did,
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was all direction from her.
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She would tell US,
"I'm in control.
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"We advise the parents what to
do, but we have the final say."
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She says, "on many
well-documented occasions,
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"the mother asked
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"if there was just something
we could give him
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"to make him go to sleep
and not wake up."
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No. I just wanted him
not to feel the pain,
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where he could just enjoy a day
where he would feel good.
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They've taken it out of context.
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I just said, "hey, you told US
you're going to
keep him comfortable..."
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"And you're not."
"...And he's not going to be in
pain, but he feels everything.
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"And he's not comfortable
and he's not feeling good."
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She says,
"if intervention by authorities
is not instituted,
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"it is my expert opinion
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"that this child
will die prematurely."
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Do you hear what she's saying?
Yeah.
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She's going to come
in the courtroom,
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she's going to get
on that witness stand
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and say, "his mother
was trying to kill him."
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Me and that accusation
don't go in the same sentence.
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I mean, I can't even
wrap my head around it.
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It destroys me as a mother,
it destroys me as a human being.
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It feels like somebody
took a knife and stabbed it
in my heart,
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and they keep stabbing me
over and over.
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This is...
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My whole heart, right there.
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Colby, Colton and Clint.
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It's my whole world right there.
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First day of school.
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They had to have the mohawk
thing going there.
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I know what's being said
about me.
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I'm frightened that the jurors
are going to be blindsided
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and I'm not gonna get
a fair trial.
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My view of danita is
that she is absolutely innocent
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of these charges.
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I would far rather
defend someone who was guilty.
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That sounds weird,
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but it doesn't feel weird
to defend someone who's guilty.
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What feels horrible
is defend somebody
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that you believe with every bit
of your being is innocent.
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You can get so into the details
of this case
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that it just...
It just consumes you.
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There's so much noise.
There's so much junk.
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I think the jury needs
to understand, logically,
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how we got
from point a to point z.
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I mean, this is not
a child abuse case
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where a kid has
a broken bone.
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He's been in a hospital setting,
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under nursing and doctor care.
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So what are they gonna
accuse her of?
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I mean...
Well, they got it
figured it out.
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If it's malnutrition, well,
it's on your watch.
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Yeah.
He's in the hospital.
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Right.
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Are you starving him?
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How are you accusing the momma
of malnutrition?
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He's in your facility.
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And if you remember
counts one and two,
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she made doctors perform
unnecessary surgeries
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by giving false
and fictitious information.
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Really? What?
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What could the momma say
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that could cause a doctor
to cut on a child?
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And god forbid
if you question a doctor,
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or things don't go
exactly as predicted...
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They're gonna turn
the table on you.
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This is a recipe of how
an innocent, great momma
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finds herself
a criminal defendant.
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Hey.
Hi, mom. Hi, dad.
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Hey, kid.
-Just in time for lunch.
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Is this from that pizza place
down the road?
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Yum!
I suppose
you're gonna eat mine.
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I'm just probably
gonna have one.
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Maybe two.
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Ellen's going
to the doctor today, your aunt.
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Do you know why?
'Cause her hair's falling out.
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She told me
last night, she said,
"my hair's falling out
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"because I'm so stressed
about this."
Yeah.
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So she's going
to the doctor, you know?
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I don't think that y'all,
in your age, should have
to be put through this.
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And I don't think that
any of our family
should be put through this.
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But...
We're all in the same boat.
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Yeah.
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There's my tree.
Yeah.
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That's it.
It'll always be
my hideaway tree.
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Yeah.
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But it's dying now.
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It's all dying.
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The only thing
that danita's ever done
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is to take care of her boys.
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I can't fathom this.
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I can't fathom...
I'm an investigator.
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I did 30 years with the
fort worth police department.
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If you're gonna look
at a situation, investigate it,
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from top to bottom.
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How can you be guilty of
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taking care of your children?
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And that's what this is.
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Danita is charged
with deceiving doctors
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into performing
unnecessary surgeries,
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which were, in fact,
harmful to her child.
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So, I wanna know,
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were these obviously
unnecessary surgeries?
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'Cause if they weren't
even unnecessary surgeries,
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then the accusation, you know,
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falls on the first prong.
I mean, it's not even close.
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I'm worried
about the fact that
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doctors, who people hold
in high esteem,
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are the accusers.
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They have
automatic credibility.
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It's kind of like
police officers.
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Jurors start out
believing police officers,
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and they're going to
start out believing
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these medical professionals.
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Hello.
-Good morning.
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Good morning, doctor.
Come on in. Nice to see y'all.
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How are you?
Doing great.
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How you doing?
Nice to meet you all.
You first.
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You're too nice to me.
Finally.
Come on in.
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We're primarily concerned
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about the surgical procedures
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that are named
in the indictment.
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Is there a case
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for the ileostomy to be,
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unnecessary?
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I don't think you'd have
a case at all for this.
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Ileostomies, it's a fairly
simple procedure.
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It's like,
okay, they'd gone through
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all the normal,
non-surgical interventions
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for chronic
and recurrent constipation,
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let's try just to bypass
the colon altogether.
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So, let's give
his colon a break,
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you know, and make it
not to have to do anything,
basically, for a while.
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Um, and if it works
we can reattach it, you know?
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Ileostomy takedowns
are a normal procedure
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for a pediatric gi doctor.
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To me, that was
the logical progression.
Right.
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It's not risky, it's not
dangerous, it's certainly messy.
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You have to deal with the whole
bags and poop and all
that fun stuff.
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But it's, um...
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I thought it was a reasonable
thing to do at the time.
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So it was totally reasonable?
-Yeah.
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And...
You're not going to make
a surgeon do anything, anyways.
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You know, I mean,
we have to justify what we do
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to our peers, we have to justify
to insurance companies.
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If things go bad,
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if this child dies in surgery
or there's some complication,
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and it goes to court,
how do I justify this?
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Right.
And his ileostomy
is easily justifiable.
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I mean, I don't understand
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why this is a criminal case
at all, to be honest with you.
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I mean, it's certainly
not every child's story.
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Most kids never go
to the hospital at all,
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but in a former preemie,
genetic child,
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I mean, this is pretty typical.
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Wow.
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He is so smart,
and so level-headed,
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and has such common sense.
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I just wish the other doctors
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and other
people involved in this
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had as much common sense
and was level-headed as him,
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and we wouldn't be here now.
258
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Yeah, he's like,
"I just can't believe
this is a criminal case." But...
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You're right.
-Yeah, but here we are.
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Here we are.
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Say hi, Colby.
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He's a little sleepy.
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Colby, say hi.
Hi!
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Hi, Colby.
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Wow!
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Colby's primary problem
was being able
to eliminate waste.
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But the worst part
of Colby's life
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was this six-month
period of time
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that started around
August and September of 2015.
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This is at the point
when they tell danita
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that Colby is terminal.
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That he needed to go to hospice,
and they're stunned.
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Colby has always
survived every...
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Every problem he's ever had.
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And in order
to be referred to hospice,
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there has to be a,
prognosis by the doctor
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that the kid's got six months
or less to live.
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And this was very,
very devastating
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to danita and Clint
and her entire family.
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Today, we're just going
to talk about what you know,
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and then prepare you for trial
and what we're
actually gonna ask.
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So it's back in the hospital,
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they came in and said, "well,
there's nothing else
we can do for him.
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"We're going to have to
bring in palliative."
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That was a shock
to everybody.
Because...
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They had a plan, they told US,
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"well, you know, okay,
we could do
the ileostomy, but..."
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If that doesn't work,
they could take his colon out.
Yeah.
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Yeah, they never said, "well,
if this doesn't work..."
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"We're done." They never said
that. It was all rosy.
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"This is going to improve
his life.
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"This is gonna fix the problem."
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And then they go,
"nothing else we can do."-
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"we're just gonna have to
bring in palliative care."
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I was like, "wait, wait, wait.
296
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"That's for... that's for people
that are on hospice.
297
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"That's for, um, older people.
298
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"That's for, um, cancer people."
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"That's, you know, what...
This is... this is a
13-year-old child
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"that you said..."
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Yeah.
You know, "this is the fix."
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Right.
And how do you go
from there to, "he's dying"?
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I don't think
Colby was terminal at all.
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I think that Colby was sick.
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He was definitely sick.
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And the injustice
that was done to danita tutt
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was done to her by the doctors
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at cook's children's hospital
in fort worth, Texas.
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That's when they said,
"there's nothing else we can do.
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"There's not another surgery
we can do.
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"There's not another fix
we can do, but he's terminal."
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And really, that's what
brought about
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this whole nightmare
for danita.
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Ronald McDonald house
is a place that is located
near the hospital,
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so that people who travel,
who have sick loved ones,
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don't have to stay in a hotel.
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You okay, danita?
Yes.
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Ronald McDonald house
let Connie
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have a room where she can take
her... her sick ones
to pass away.
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Connie said to danita,
321
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"we'll move him
to Ronald McDonald
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"and he can pass away there."
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To be accused
of hurting my own son,
324
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I literally want to throw up.
325
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It breaks my heart and shatters
it into a million pieces.
326
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It's okay, danita.
I'm so sorry.
327
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Maybe it wasn't a good idea
to bring you here.
328
00:20:03,912 --> 00:20:06,037
No, I'll be fine.
I've just gotta get a minute.
329
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How are you, buddy?
Good.
330
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This is a very
close family.
331
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And they're all witnesses to
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some key conversations
and exchanges of information
333
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that the state's witnesses
may now try to deny.
334
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We were down there
every day.
335
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Every day
that he was at hospice?
Right.
336
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So you're
there every day.
337
00:20:42,492 --> 00:20:44,984
Did she starve him
in your presence?
338
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No. Never.
-Did you ever see him eat?
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There was always food there
for him to eat.-
340
00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:52,808
but when you
look at your daughter,
341
00:20:52,835 --> 00:20:57,571
do you see any truth
to those allegations?
342
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I had a 40-year career
in this field,
343
00:21:01,094 --> 00:21:04,095
and if it was something
that I suspected,
344
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I would have been
the first to jump on it.
345
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Daughter or no daughter?
Daughter, no daughter.
346
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Connie... she's the one
that cut everything off,
347
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no food or drinks.
348
00:21:16,317 --> 00:21:19,402
But I continued to bring him
food and drink.
349
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Then on may 4th,
350
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Connie wants to have
a family meeting.
351
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She said, "two weeks ago,
I was positive
352
00:21:28,955 --> 00:21:31,772
"Colby was dying of sepsis..."
Blood disorder.
353
00:21:32,792 --> 00:21:35,584
"The blood infection
has miraculously disappeared."
354
00:21:37,130 --> 00:21:39,705
Boom. These
are her exact words.
355
00:21:40,958 --> 00:21:43,617
"She stated that she did not
know how this happened
356
00:21:43,678 --> 00:21:47,196
"because Colby had not had
a full course of antibiotics."
357
00:21:47,223 --> 00:21:49,031
Here we're sitting here,
358
00:21:49,633 --> 00:21:51,809
we've got a son
that we think is dying...
359
00:21:53,229 --> 00:21:54,854
And all of a sudden,
360
00:21:56,190 --> 00:21:58,065
he's miraculously cured.
361
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This is when she stated
362
00:22:01,362 --> 00:22:03,896
she wanted all of US to leave
while they observed
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00:22:04,574 --> 00:22:07,325
Colby alone
for three days and nights.
364
00:22:09,871 --> 00:22:11,162
We left him there that day.
365
00:22:13,491 --> 00:22:15,624
Clint and danita called me,
366
00:22:17,328 --> 00:22:18,252
and says,
367
00:22:19,672 --> 00:22:20,504
"we can't do this.
368
00:22:22,258 --> 00:22:23,657
"We wanna go get Colby."
369
00:22:24,052 --> 00:22:25,659
Now, this is not a hospital.
370
00:22:26,670 --> 00:22:29,238
This is not signing anybody in
and out or anything like that.
371
00:22:29,265 --> 00:22:30,473
This is
a come-and-go place.
372
00:22:33,561 --> 00:22:34,518
And I told them,
373
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"do what you need to do."
374
00:22:45,448 --> 00:22:46,589
You gotta look at this.
375
00:22:47,358 --> 00:22:49,683
Connie has led these
people down the path
376
00:22:51,028 --> 00:22:53,112
of, "your kid is dying,
you need to make
the funeral arrangements."
377
00:22:53,873 --> 00:22:56,707
She has led them
down the path of death...
378
00:22:57,710 --> 00:22:59,192
And Colby's starting
to look a little better.
379
00:22:59,462 --> 00:23:00,769
Danita's furious.
380
00:23:01,372 --> 00:23:02,955
'Cause she still
thinks he's dying,
381
00:23:03,049 --> 00:23:05,174
although she's asking,
"why is he eating?"
382
00:23:06,594 --> 00:23:08,844
I think Connie got a little
worried about Connie.
383
00:23:51,255 --> 00:23:53,580
Danita called.
She says,
384
00:23:54,642 --> 00:23:56,725
"somebody's here again.
There's two ladies at my door."
385
00:23:58,020 --> 00:23:59,311
She says, "I think it's cps."
386
00:24:00,690 --> 00:24:03,590
I thought it was no big deal,
387
00:24:03,651 --> 00:24:07,686
because there hadn't been
any type of abuse at all, ever.
388
00:24:08,948 --> 00:24:12,599
And so, I just assumed we would
explain what went on,
and they would
389
00:24:12,660 --> 00:24:14,243
make their report
and get back to US.
390
00:24:15,663 --> 00:24:16,745
And then, all of
a sudden, he's gone.
391
00:24:26,007 --> 00:24:28,448
A 13-year-old
with complex medical issues
392
00:24:28,509 --> 00:24:31,376
since birth, and a mother
devoted to his care.
393
00:24:32,129 --> 00:24:34,305
But child services
have now taken that boy
394
00:24:34,465 --> 00:24:37,866
away from his home,
and the mother
has been arrested.
395
00:24:38,978 --> 00:24:40,478
Colby and his younger
brother have both been
396
00:24:40,638 --> 00:24:42,396
taken into cps custody.
397
00:24:44,066 --> 00:24:45,483
We cried every night...
398
00:24:46,486 --> 00:24:48,068
Because we had no idea
where they took him.
399
00:24:49,989 --> 00:24:52,281
Can you imagine not knowing
where your child is?
400
00:25:18,768 --> 00:25:20,075
That should tell you
all you need to know.
401
00:25:20,102 --> 00:25:22,978
If cps is dismissing
their case, there is no case.
402
00:25:24,690 --> 00:25:26,899
But yet,
the district attorney
403
00:25:28,686 --> 00:25:30,361
continues with
the prosecution.
404
00:25:43,033 --> 00:25:46,618
What I'm looking at
now are Facebook posts
405
00:25:47,797 --> 00:25:50,881
that they have gathered
as part of their investigation.
406
00:25:52,218 --> 00:25:56,220
And, this one
here, for example...
407
00:25:56,806 --> 00:25:58,630
"What an amazing night
for wings of hope.
408
00:25:58,724 --> 00:26:02,542
"Colby was recognized
and did a speech
409
00:26:03,271 --> 00:26:05,804
"that came straight from his
heart. So proud and amazed
410
00:26:05,898 --> 00:26:08,640
"at the journey our son
has been on and overcome.
411
00:26:08,734 --> 00:26:10,150
"Thank you to
everyone who came."
412
00:26:12,446 --> 00:26:13,904
They're trying to
paint a picture here
413
00:26:14,448 --> 00:26:18,058
of someone who,
24/7 is talking about
414
00:26:18,828 --> 00:26:20,995
her son's medically
fragile condition.
415
00:26:22,415 --> 00:26:24,773
Even if she were
talking about it 24/7,
416
00:26:25,501 --> 00:26:26,875
so what?
Why is that a crime?
417
00:26:37,263 --> 00:26:39,504
They're saying
she fits this profile,
418
00:26:39,599 --> 00:26:41,247
this thing
that they're calling
419
00:26:41,601 --> 00:26:43,767
Munchausen by proxy syndrome.
420
00:26:43,927 --> 00:26:48,606
In essence, she is
the kind of person
421
00:26:49,266 --> 00:26:52,610
who enjoys the attention,
422
00:26:54,104 --> 00:26:56,855
that comes with
having a child
423
00:26:57,450 --> 00:26:58,699
who is medically fragile
424
00:27:00,611 --> 00:27:05,438
and therefore, exaggerates
symptoms or fabricates symptoms
425
00:27:06,375 --> 00:27:11,186
in order to induce doctors to
perform these medical procedures
426
00:27:11,213 --> 00:27:14,857
that in turn,
get her this attention
427
00:27:15,843 --> 00:27:19,544
that people who suffer from
this syndrome supposedly crave.
428
00:27:20,130 --> 00:27:22,122
If they can put
that label on her,
429
00:27:22,183 --> 00:27:23,382
basically, in their mind,
430
00:27:23,476 --> 00:27:25,184
that's going to prove
that she's guilty.
431
00:27:34,487 --> 00:27:35,819
We're now joined by
Dr. Jamye coffman,
432
00:27:35,979 --> 00:27:37,713
who is a child abuse
pediatrician
433
00:27:37,740 --> 00:27:39,898
at cook's children's medical
center in fort worth.
434
00:27:40,576 --> 00:27:42,718
What are you doing
that others aren't doing?
435
00:27:42,745 --> 00:27:44,386
Well, what we have
at our institution,
436
00:27:44,413 --> 00:27:46,221
we have a case
management system,
437
00:27:46,248 --> 00:27:49,315
and if they have concern,
they'll send the cases to me.
438
00:27:50,044 --> 00:27:53,170
And I review them,
and I have five to 10 of those
439
00:27:53,330 --> 00:27:54,838
a month on my desk
that I'm reviewing.
440
00:27:54,998 --> 00:27:56,840
Five to 10 a month?
Yes.
441
00:27:57,000 --> 00:27:58,250
Yes, that we're reviewing.
442
00:27:58,719 --> 00:28:01,086
And then out of those,
about one a month
443
00:28:01,180 --> 00:28:02,471
rise to the level
to be reported.
444
00:28:06,102 --> 00:28:09,912
Interestingly enough,
we have this little flood
445
00:28:09,939 --> 00:28:12,505
of Munchausen by proxy cases
446
00:28:13,067 --> 00:28:14,599
coming from cook's
children's hospital
447
00:28:14,694 --> 00:28:16,527
to the tarrant county
da's office.
448
00:28:18,114 --> 00:28:20,923
When I got this case
and I was kind of
researching it,
449
00:28:20,950 --> 00:28:23,759
I found that there have
only been like two convictions
450
00:28:23,786 --> 00:28:25,369
throughout the whole
United States.
451
00:28:27,039 --> 00:28:29,448
And you have to ask yourself,
"well, if this is very rare,
452
00:28:29,542 --> 00:28:31,750
"why such an overflow
in tarrant county?"
453
00:28:33,754 --> 00:28:36,029
And, of course, I've looked
deeper into that
454
00:28:36,090 --> 00:28:38,882
and I know the answer,
that we've got this doctor
455
00:28:39,042 --> 00:28:41,443
over at cook's
children's hospital.
456
00:28:42,212 --> 00:28:46,965
A Munchausen expert, and she
comes to court for everything
457
00:28:47,059 --> 00:28:50,894
the district attorney's office
needs, and they have now
458
00:28:51,054 --> 00:28:53,455
convicted somewhere in
the neighborhood of five women
459
00:28:54,275 --> 00:28:56,900
of these crimes,
and saying that they're crazy
460
00:28:57,060 --> 00:28:58,569
by having Munchausen by proxy.
461
00:29:02,158 --> 00:29:03,223
How about
I blow, you tie?
462
00:29:03,284 --> 00:29:04,199
I'll tie.
463
00:29:06,495 --> 00:29:08,895
It is Colby's 16th birthday,
464
00:29:08,956 --> 00:29:11,915
and he's been telling everyone
that he's getting a car
465
00:29:12,075 --> 00:29:13,417
for his birthday
and he's going to
466
00:29:13,577 --> 00:29:15,494
come pick everybody up
and drive them around.
467
00:29:18,966 --> 00:29:22,075
You know, we wanna try
and have some kind of normalcy.
468
00:29:22,136 --> 00:29:24,011
We wanna have a little,
you know, some kind of fun.
469
00:29:25,264 --> 00:29:26,263
We need to be
able to
470
00:29:27,767 --> 00:29:30,601
live like we're not dying
inside all the time.
471
00:29:34,273 --> 00:29:36,023
Have I thought about
if I was found guilty?
472
00:29:36,984 --> 00:29:38,442
Yeah. I mean,
473
00:29:39,195 --> 00:29:40,277
you're talking about
474
00:29:40,437 --> 00:29:42,170
never getting to see
our boys,
475
00:29:42,948 --> 00:29:44,656
never getting to attend
another birthday party.
476
00:29:45,868 --> 00:29:46,950
No christmases.
477
00:29:47,453 --> 00:29:48,677
No Thanksgiving.
478
00:29:48,704 --> 00:29:49,870
No cuddles at night.
479
00:29:52,115 --> 00:29:53,373
No life at all.
480
00:29:57,287 --> 00:29:58,796
Colby, how old
are you today?
481
00:29:58,956 --> 00:29:59,838
How old are you?
Sixteen.
482
00:30:00,841 --> 00:30:01,965
Sixteen.
483
00:30:04,386 --> 00:30:05,636
Make a wish.
484
00:30:18,475 --> 00:30:19,691
I did
everything right,
485
00:30:20,736 --> 00:30:22,486
and here I am
in this mess.
486
00:30:23,739 --> 00:30:24,880
My heart is racing,
487
00:30:24,907 --> 00:30:26,490
my legs are shaking.
488
00:30:27,368 --> 00:30:28,733
It's emotionally hard.
489
00:30:28,828 --> 00:30:30,643
Why... how wouldn't it be
emotionally hard?
490
00:30:30,704 --> 00:30:31,978
I'm the... I'm a mother,
491
00:30:32,331 --> 00:30:33,405
but, you know,
for the first time,
492
00:30:33,749 --> 00:30:34,998
we get to tell our story.
493
00:30:37,211 --> 00:30:38,410
What's at stake is
494
00:30:38,504 --> 00:30:39,878
two little boys
not having their mom,
495
00:30:41,507 --> 00:30:43,173
the disruption
of the whole family.
496
00:30:43,592 --> 00:30:45,067
This is life-changing,
497
00:30:45,094 --> 00:30:47,160
this can ruin her marriage,
498
00:30:47,504 --> 00:30:49,087
her freedom,
her ability to
499
00:30:49,181 --> 00:30:50,238
see her kids,
500
00:30:50,432 --> 00:30:52,015
to raise them... yeah,
501
00:30:52,852 --> 00:30:54,184
everything's
at stake here.
502
00:31:06,907 --> 00:31:08,423
You're critiqued
on the way your hair is,
503
00:31:08,450 --> 00:31:10,033
you're critiqued on
the way you move,
504
00:31:10,193 --> 00:31:11,851
if you flinch or if you blink...
505
00:31:11,912 --> 00:31:13,595
I mean, I'm being critiqued
on almost everything.
506
00:31:14,623 --> 00:31:16,264
Most times I feel
like I wanna vomit,
507
00:31:16,292 --> 00:31:18,166
and the other times I feel
I just wanna cry my eyes out.
508
00:31:28,137 --> 00:31:30,220
Well, it's been kind
of a crazy week.
509
00:31:30,764 --> 00:31:32,055
We tore up the doctors.
510
00:31:32,215 --> 00:31:34,141
Not a single doctor
got on the stand
511
00:31:34,768 --> 00:31:36,301
and said,
512
00:31:36,395 --> 00:31:38,470
"she said he was in pain,
and that's a lie."
513
00:31:39,389 --> 00:31:40,439
They... they didn't
call you a liar.
514
00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:44,292
Um, and not a single
doctor said
515
00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:45,977
they so relied
516
00:31:46,071 --> 00:31:48,296
upon any statement
made by you
517
00:31:48,899 --> 00:31:51,575
that that caused them to perform
an unnecessary surgery.
518
00:31:51,735 --> 00:31:55,395
So that's...
That's great in our favor.
519
00:31:55,831 --> 00:31:56,821
We've had a good week.
520
00:31:57,791 --> 00:31:59,808
That doesn't mean
next week is gonna be,
521
00:32:00,336 --> 00:32:02,628
you know... we're gonna
take blows, okay?
522
00:32:03,505 --> 00:32:05,172
Okay.
I'll see you Monday.
523
00:32:21,857 --> 00:32:23,231
I feel like we had
a good week.
524
00:32:25,986 --> 00:32:27,819
I feel like the lies
are starting to be exposed.
525
00:32:29,949 --> 00:32:31,597
I feel like the truth
is starting to come out,
526
00:32:31,659 --> 00:32:34,100
and I feel like everybody
that's in that courtroom is
527
00:32:34,161 --> 00:32:35,911
getting to see a whole
different side of the story.
528
00:32:37,039 --> 00:32:38,604
Does it hurt? Yeah,
it hurts.
529
00:32:38,666 --> 00:32:40,532
Am I taking hard blows?
Yeah, I'm taking hard blows.
530
00:32:41,210 --> 00:32:42,608
Do I just wanna, you know,
531
00:32:42,670 --> 00:32:45,036
crawl out of my skin
and run away? Yeah...
532
00:32:45,130 --> 00:32:47,355
But I have to sit
there and I have to take it,
533
00:32:47,883 --> 00:32:49,216
and I have to be
as strong as I can be.
534
00:32:52,304 --> 00:32:54,120
Because I've stood on the truth
from day one,
535
00:32:54,181 --> 00:32:55,514
and I'm still standing
to this day.
536
00:33:14,651 --> 00:33:16,243
Okay.
537
00:33:19,081 --> 00:33:20,739
It was so good yesterday.
538
00:33:21,208 --> 00:33:22,624
You know,
we got Connie!
539
00:33:23,210 --> 00:33:24,559
And then,
540
00:33:24,586 --> 00:33:26,152
we get up today, and we
541
00:33:26,213 --> 00:33:27,746
get more of Connie,
542
00:33:28,090 --> 00:33:29,989
and I felt like it was okay.
543
00:33:30,718 --> 00:33:32,992
So they had
one witness left,
544
00:33:33,721 --> 00:33:36,071
and Dr. Jamye coffman
is their clean-up lady.
545
00:33:36,673 --> 00:33:39,182
I know when I'm getting hit,
546
00:33:39,342 --> 00:33:41,667
and we haven't
really taken a punch.
547
00:33:41,729 --> 00:33:43,428
No.
548
00:33:43,522 --> 00:33:46,672
But jamye coffman is there
to throw that punch.
549
00:33:46,734 --> 00:33:47,932
Right.
-She sure is.
550
00:33:48,027 --> 00:33:51,102
She claims she's gone
through 11,000, 12,000
551
00:33:51,196 --> 00:33:52,446
medical records,
552
00:33:53,282 --> 00:33:54,589
and then she's gone back
553
00:33:55,534 --> 00:33:57,701
and looked at your
Facebook posts...-
554
00:33:57,861 --> 00:33:59,369
...and she's found
a discrepancy,
555
00:33:59,955 --> 00:34:01,613
and therefore you're a liar.
556
00:34:01,707 --> 00:34:03,615
And if you're a liar
in your Facebook posts,
557
00:34:03,709 --> 00:34:04,916
you're a liar to the doctor.
558
00:34:05,961 --> 00:34:07,435
And if you lied to the doctor,
559
00:34:07,463 --> 00:34:08,378
then you must be guilty.
560
00:34:09,757 --> 00:34:10,863
But everything
that somebody told me,
561
00:34:10,924 --> 00:34:12,440
is what I put on Facebook.
-Right.
562
00:34:12,468 --> 00:34:13,884
And they may or
may not be
563
00:34:14,044 --> 00:34:15,610
reflected in the records.
Correct.
564
00:34:15,971 --> 00:34:17,554
So, looks like 29,
565
00:34:18,432 --> 00:34:20,706
instances that she says
566
00:34:20,768 --> 00:34:22,726
are gonna be lies,
567
00:34:23,386 --> 00:34:25,970
to get attention
because of Colby's problem.
568
00:34:26,065 --> 00:34:28,548
So, let's see what
the Facebook post says,
569
00:34:29,059 --> 00:34:30,776
and then let's look
for a medical record
570
00:34:31,487 --> 00:34:32,627
that we could argue
571
00:34:32,988 --> 00:34:34,488
supports your Facebook post.
572
00:34:39,119 --> 00:34:41,394
Mechanical malfunction
of the button device.
573
00:34:42,405 --> 00:34:44,306
Just 'cause I didn't post
on the day we did it,
574
00:34:44,333 --> 00:34:45,898
I post a few days after.
575
00:34:45,959 --> 00:34:47,992
That's fine.
If the Facebook post
says it,
576
00:34:48,837 --> 00:34:50,662
this medical record
says it too.
577
00:34:51,632 --> 00:34:53,423
At least 20 blood
transfusions.
Twenty.
578
00:34:55,752 --> 00:34:58,419
Twenty-one, 22, 23...
She's pulling things out
of her butt now.
579
00:34:59,589 --> 00:35:01,080
Tellin' you, she's writing
whatever she wants
580
00:35:01,517 --> 00:35:02,474
for the district attorney.
581
00:35:03,260 --> 00:35:04,309
Can I see that?
Yes.
582
00:35:06,271 --> 00:35:07,604
Let's keep everything
together.
583
00:35:07,764 --> 00:35:09,439
This, this is not
from this book.
584
00:35:09,599 --> 00:35:10,923
Okay, now wait a minute,
585
00:35:11,443 --> 00:35:12,484
let's get something straight.
586
00:35:14,437 --> 00:35:15,837
You don't pull from that book
and hand Mike ware anything...
587
00:35:15,864 --> 00:35:17,339
Well, no,
he asked for...
We'll never find it.
588
00:35:17,366 --> 00:35:19,265
Okay.
This is going to have
to be organized.
589
00:35:19,660 --> 00:35:20,842
Okay.
Okay?
590
00:35:21,111 --> 00:35:22,694
This is not panic time.
591
00:35:23,780 --> 00:35:25,680
Okay, this is hold
your together.
592
00:35:25,707 --> 00:35:26,832
Yeah.
Okay?
593
00:35:35,300 --> 00:35:36,216
Amen.
594
00:35:46,395 --> 00:35:48,145
She came in for one thing
and one thing only,
595
00:35:48,305 --> 00:35:50,963
to, you know,
accuse me of Munchausen.
596
00:35:51,474 --> 00:35:53,041
She's not a psychologist.
597
00:35:53,068 --> 00:35:54,559
She's not a psychiatrist.
598
00:35:54,653 --> 00:35:56,728
And I think Terri
did a very good job of
599
00:35:56,822 --> 00:35:58,546
making that known to the jury
600
00:35:58,574 --> 00:35:59,739
that, "you're not qualified."
601
00:36:04,246 --> 00:36:05,737
I think the last few days,
602
00:36:05,831 --> 00:36:07,914
we've done our best
to tell danita's story.
603
00:36:09,209 --> 00:36:11,393
We have taken such
an aggressive
604
00:36:11,420 --> 00:36:13,319
plan, to call witnesses
605
00:36:13,380 --> 00:36:14,504
and defeat this.
606
00:36:15,382 --> 00:36:16,822
I don't see
607
00:36:16,884 --> 00:36:19,217
the evidence to convict
her. I do not.
608
00:36:20,929 --> 00:36:22,404
Okay, so,
609
00:36:22,431 --> 00:36:24,830
let's just kind of reassess
where we are, guys.
610
00:36:25,392 --> 00:36:27,166
It's Friday afternoon,
it's the end of three weeks
611
00:36:27,227 --> 00:36:28,226
of jury trial.
612
00:36:29,188 --> 00:36:30,520
Jury's sitting there wondering,
613
00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:32,764
"how much more of this
am I gonna hear?"
614
00:36:32,858 --> 00:36:34,840
And, you know, we have a lot
of witnesses
615
00:36:34,902 --> 00:36:36,193
that we can still call.
616
00:36:37,187 --> 00:36:39,011
Let's think about
the big picture.
617
00:36:39,072 --> 00:36:40,772
Um,
618
00:36:40,866 --> 00:36:42,699
they're gonna put on
some kind of rebuttal.
619
00:36:43,952 --> 00:36:46,686
So, any further witnesses
we put on
620
00:36:46,747 --> 00:36:48,020
has to be with that in mind.
621
00:36:48,081 --> 00:36:49,097
That's right.
622
00:36:49,124 --> 00:36:50,432
And any,
623
00:36:50,459 --> 00:36:51,875
weaknesses they have
624
00:36:52,035 --> 00:36:53,952
or exposure they have
on cross-examination
625
00:36:54,254 --> 00:36:55,695
has to be
626
00:36:55,756 --> 00:36:57,881
kept in mind when
we make that decision too.
627
00:36:59,092 --> 00:37:01,301
Danita, I assume it's still
very much your choice
not to testify.
628
00:37:05,098 --> 00:37:07,140
But I know the story
better than anybody.
629
00:37:08,718 --> 00:37:10,042
I know what was said to me,
630
00:37:10,887 --> 00:37:12,878
I know what he was eating
and drinking.
631
00:37:12,940 --> 00:37:14,564
Danita, don't.
632
00:37:19,279 --> 00:37:20,737
They would hang you
out to dry.
633
00:37:22,074 --> 00:37:23,281
It would be all
about your Facebook.
634
00:37:26,403 --> 00:37:28,561
Is it a crime to vent to people?
635
00:37:28,622 --> 00:37:30,655
Is it a crime to talk
to support groups?
It is now.
636
00:37:30,749 --> 00:37:32,290
You also know what
they would do with it.
637
00:37:33,168 --> 00:37:34,167
Yeah.
Yeah.
638
00:37:39,341 --> 00:37:42,092
Even though I could tell
the story better than anybody,
639
00:37:42,844 --> 00:37:45,487
I'm not going to let them
640
00:37:45,514 --> 00:37:46,930
sink their claws into me
641
00:37:47,090 --> 00:37:49,415
for days, trying to
rip me apart,
642
00:37:49,476 --> 00:37:51,935
more than what they've tried
to rip me apart already.
643
00:37:52,095 --> 00:37:54,437
I think it's wise.
I think you don't put yourself
through that.
644
00:37:54,597 --> 00:37:55,647
You've gone through enough.
645
00:37:57,526 --> 00:37:58,650
We're gonna win.
646
00:37:59,945 --> 00:38:01,027
I can tell you.
647
00:38:12,124 --> 00:38:13,939
They have not
brought forth
648
00:38:14,001 --> 00:38:15,608
any credible evidence
649
00:38:15,952 --> 00:38:17,002
to convict danita.
650
00:38:20,290 --> 00:38:22,690
She should be found
not guilty so fast,
651
00:38:22,718 --> 00:38:24,342
and that's what haunts me.
652
00:38:31,810 --> 00:38:34,202
This is the worst part
of the whole thing.
653
00:38:35,305 --> 00:38:37,188
It's a waiting game,
and it's miserable.
654
00:38:39,476 --> 00:38:41,318
My gut twisted
all night long.
655
00:38:42,404 --> 00:38:43,820
I don't know if the jury is
656
00:38:44,981 --> 00:38:47,157
sophisticated enough
to figure it out.
657
00:38:49,745 --> 00:38:51,644
We have to face,
658
00:38:51,705 --> 00:38:52,662
the "what if."
659
00:38:53,707 --> 00:38:55,498
What if you are found guilty?
660
00:39:00,172 --> 00:39:02,672
I've been honestly
hoping that they've put
themselves in my shoes.
661
00:39:05,218 --> 00:39:06,509
You know, the only thing
I'm guilty of
662
00:39:06,669 --> 00:39:08,252
is going and picking up my son,
663
00:39:08,347 --> 00:39:09,929
you know, and I had
every right to do that.
664
00:39:11,350 --> 00:39:12,599
And I'd do it again
in a heartbeat.
665
00:39:22,277 --> 00:39:23,234
Unbelievable.
666
00:39:26,073 --> 00:39:28,256
A mother from
cleburne has been found guilty,
667
00:39:28,950 --> 00:39:30,617
of starvation and
attempted murder.
668
00:39:31,578 --> 00:39:33,261
Danita was found guilty
669
00:39:33,288 --> 00:39:35,455
of counts three and four
of the indictment.
670
00:39:36,625 --> 00:39:37,707
She was found not guilty
671
00:39:37,867 --> 00:39:39,084
of counts one and two.
672
00:39:40,087 --> 00:39:40,960
The guilty
673
00:39:41,704 --> 00:39:42,962
was starvation.
674
00:39:45,208 --> 00:39:47,926
And the guilty was
attempted murder.
675
00:39:49,388 --> 00:39:51,137
When he read count three
and said "guilty,"
676
00:39:52,099 --> 00:39:53,473
I instantly got sick and...
677
00:39:54,309 --> 00:39:56,476
Started to cry, and...
678
00:39:57,396 --> 00:39:58,311
My heart
679
00:39:59,815 --> 00:40:01,147
hurt for danita having to sit
there and...
680
00:40:02,559 --> 00:40:03,817
Do that and hear that.
681
00:40:04,894 --> 00:40:06,310
We're all feeling,
682
00:40:06,405 --> 00:40:08,405
"did we do everything
right for danita?"
683
00:40:09,324 --> 00:40:10,824
It's so heartbreaking.
684
00:40:13,161 --> 00:40:15,653
They will have her
in solitary, basically,
685
00:40:16,081 --> 00:40:17,989
and really,
686
00:40:18,083 --> 00:40:19,582
that's for her
own protection.
687
00:40:20,743 --> 00:40:22,660
This is, you know,
an alleged offense
688
00:40:22,754 --> 00:40:24,254
involving a child.
You know, it's...
689
00:40:25,465 --> 00:40:27,498
It's a brutal world inside
690
00:40:27,592 --> 00:40:28,591
the jail.
691
00:40:40,430 --> 00:40:41,587
Are you there, hon?
692
00:40:44,359 --> 00:40:46,258
Yeah.
693
00:40:46,319 --> 00:40:47,861
Love you.
694
00:40:48,864 --> 00:40:49,929
Go ahead, honey.
695
00:41:03,620 --> 00:41:05,203
We will do that.
-We will.
696
00:41:05,297 --> 00:41:07,547
And...
697
00:41:15,682 --> 00:41:17,140
Okay, I'll do it.
698
00:41:17,851 --> 00:41:19,225
Stay strong, honey.
699
00:41:21,313 --> 00:41:24,038
All right. All right,
wear the full armor.
700
00:41:24,065 --> 00:41:25,890
You remember what...
What,
701
00:41:25,984 --> 00:41:27,542
Paul said,
702
00:41:27,569 --> 00:41:28,968
"wear the full armor."
703
00:41:30,489 --> 00:41:31,637
All right, honey. Bye-bye.
704
00:41:41,374 --> 00:41:42,582
God, I'm so angry.
705
00:41:53,094 --> 00:41:55,327
Mom, don't wanna
get up...
706
00:41:55,388 --> 00:41:56,829
It's time to...
707
00:41:56,890 --> 00:41:58,097
Happy birthday!
708
00:42:01,853 --> 00:42:02,894
I really,
709
00:42:03,563 --> 00:42:04,929
sincerely,
710
00:42:05,023 --> 00:42:07,098
with every fiber of my being,
711
00:42:07,850 --> 00:42:09,675
believe that there's been
712
00:42:09,736 --> 00:42:11,769
a terrible mistake
by the jury here.
713
00:42:11,863 --> 00:42:14,614
They absolutely got it wrong,
and...
714
00:42:16,076 --> 00:42:18,426
Those two precious little boys
of hers,
715
00:42:18,453 --> 00:42:19,610
her husband,
716
00:42:20,029 --> 00:42:21,538
her mom, her dad,
717
00:42:22,031 --> 00:42:23,948
Clint's parents
that live next door,
718
00:42:24,751 --> 00:42:27,693
they're such
a tight-knit family,
719
00:42:27,754 --> 00:42:28,711
so close.
720
00:42:29,297 --> 00:42:32,048
And this is going
721
00:42:33,260 --> 00:42:35,218
to harm them all,
722
00:42:36,638 --> 00:42:38,596
not just punishing danita.
723
00:42:40,976 --> 00:42:42,541
Do you see my baby?
724
00:42:42,811 --> 00:42:44,143
Isn't he precious?
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