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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:01,520 --> 00:00:04,560 In the criminal justice system the people are represented 2 00:00:04,595 --> 00:00:07,160 by two separate yet equally important groups. 3 00:00:07,195 --> 00:00:09,205 The police who investigate crime 4 00:00:09,240 --> 00:00:12,440 and the crown prosecutors who prosecute the offenders. 5 00:00:12,475 --> 00:00:14,400 These are their stories. 6 00:00:29,040 --> 00:00:31,845 Excuse me, what are you doing? Are you Mrs Lerner? 7 00:00:31,880 --> 00:00:35,280 No. I work for Mrs Lerner. I'm not fussed so long as you let me in. 8 00:00:38,680 --> 00:00:40,720 She wants broadband upstairs. 9 00:00:40,755 --> 00:00:42,680 Fetch. 10 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:49,005 Did you ring the bell? 11 00:00:49,040 --> 00:00:51,080 Do you know, it never occurred to me. 12 00:00:51,115 --> 00:00:53,040 Wipe your feet. 13 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:02,245 Nice gaff. 14 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:05,080 It was not before. Fitted carpets, easy to clean. 15 00:01:05,115 --> 00:01:07,120 Much better. 16 00:01:07,155 --> 00:01:09,165 Uh... 17 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:11,400 They want to put a computer in the office 18 00:01:11,435 --> 00:01:13,405 and one in the guest bedroom. 19 00:01:13,440 --> 00:01:15,480 Job spec said only one extra outlet. 20 00:01:15,515 --> 00:01:17,857 Haven't they got a wireless router? 21 00:01:17,892 --> 00:01:20,165 You have to talk to her. Mrs Lerner! 22 00:01:20,200 --> 00:01:23,720 The man from the broadband is here! 23 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:27,160 Mrs Lerner! 24 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:30,360 Hello! 25 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:33,360 Mrs Lerner! 26 00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:44,640 Victims are Elaine and David Lerner. 27 00:01:44,675 --> 00:01:46,645 The cleaner found them. 28 00:01:46,680 --> 00:01:48,725 Right. Who's the young Elvis? 29 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:51,840 He came to install broadband. He was waiting outside. 30 00:01:51,875 --> 00:01:53,885 Point of entry? 31 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:56,525 Entry and exit, broken window in the kitchen. 32 00:01:56,560 --> 00:01:59,720 With a blood trail leading back there from the bedroom. 33 00:01:59,755 --> 00:02:02,525 Right. Have we got anything missing, do you know? 34 00:02:02,560 --> 00:02:06,160 The cleaner is doing an inventory and the daughter is on her way. 35 00:02:06,195 --> 00:02:08,120 She's driving down from Leeds. 36 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:11,445 What a homecoming. 37 00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:14,965 A dozen stab wounds between them and still counting. 38 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:18,760 At a rough guess, I'd say they've been dead not more than 48 hours. 39 00:02:18,795 --> 00:02:22,520 The wife is still tucked in. Didn't actually know what hit her. 40 00:02:22,555 --> 00:02:24,525 The husband not so lucky. 41 00:02:24,560 --> 00:02:27,240 Defensive stab wounds on both hands. 42 00:02:27,275 --> 00:02:29,245 Through 43 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:32,400 and... through. 44 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:38,080 So, what do you think? Husband wakes up, see's his wife being attacked, 45 00:02:38,115 --> 00:02:40,120 and tries to fight back. 46 00:02:40,155 --> 00:02:42,125 "David and Elaine. 47 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:44,120 Here's to the next 20 years. " 48 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:47,760 Or not, as it turns out. 49 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:33,560 Our murder weapon is a chisel taken from a tool bag on the landing. 50 00:03:33,595 --> 00:03:35,637 So he entered the house unarmed? 51 00:03:35,672 --> 00:03:37,645 Maybe he thought no-one was home. 52 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:41,000 Heard a noise and grabbed the first thing that came to hand. 53 00:03:41,035 --> 00:03:43,417 Why head upstairs? They didn't interrupt him. 54 00:03:43,452 --> 00:03:45,765 They were still in bed. Was anything taken? 55 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:49,440 Apparently not. Jewellery, cash, electrics all still present. 56 00:03:49,475 --> 00:03:52,197 If you went there to kill them, why go unarmed? 57 00:03:52,232 --> 00:03:54,885 And if it's a burglary, why leave empty-handed? 58 00:03:54,920 --> 00:03:58,880 He had just butchered two people. Maybe he wasn't thinking straight. 59 00:03:58,915 --> 00:04:02,400 He was thinking straight enough to have a wash before he went. 60 00:04:02,435 --> 00:04:04,885 And he wiped the chisel before he dropped it. 61 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:07,760 So no prints, then. Not on the murder weapon, guv, 62 00:04:07,795 --> 00:04:09,937 but elsewhere we're spoiled for choice. 63 00:04:09,972 --> 00:04:12,080 We've got 38 sets of unknown prints. 64 00:04:12,115 --> 00:04:14,125 Popular couple. 65 00:04:14,160 --> 00:04:17,720 They were renovating the house, it was crawling with workmen. 66 00:04:17,755 --> 00:04:20,045 But this is what we're concentrating on. 67 00:04:20,080 --> 00:04:23,400 It's a partial thumb print on the headboard. Mrs Lerner's blood. 68 00:04:23,435 --> 00:04:26,720 It's a good match to another partial found near the broken window. 69 00:04:26,755 --> 00:04:28,765 Except it's not on the system. 70 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:32,480 Print everyone who's worked on that house. Any word from the daughter? 71 00:04:32,515 --> 00:04:34,525 We're meeting her at the house. 72 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:37,245 I'd like to talk to forensics regarding the MO. 73 00:04:37,280 --> 00:04:40,120 Although the prints haven't turned up on the system, 74 00:04:40,155 --> 00:04:42,960 anything this brutal might ring bells. Get to it. 75 00:04:42,995 --> 00:04:45,005 Ta. 76 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:47,045 What? I get the grieving daughter. 77 00:04:47,080 --> 00:04:50,160 And you go down the lab to have a cup of tea with Eleanor? 78 00:04:50,195 --> 00:04:52,280 Andy, my boy, talk about delegation, 79 00:04:52,315 --> 00:04:54,297 it's an art. 80 00:04:54,332 --> 00:04:56,280 It's a joke. 81 00:04:58,480 --> 00:05:00,525 Female vic definitely went first. 82 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:04,160 The angle of the wound suggests he was on the bed straddling her. 83 00:05:04,195 --> 00:05:06,165 So, what he pinned her down? 84 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:08,925 Pretty much. Not that he needed to. 85 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:12,600 The chisel went in seven times and never once missed the target. 86 00:05:12,635 --> 00:05:15,537 He hit the heart, stomach, liver and kidneys. 87 00:05:15,572 --> 00:05:18,440 She probably never woke up enough to move. 88 00:05:18,475 --> 00:05:20,480 He wasn't messing around then? 89 00:05:20,515 --> 00:05:22,485 Oh, no. 90 00:05:22,520 --> 00:05:24,525 He wanted her dead. 91 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:26,520 I'd say it was personal. 92 00:05:27,800 --> 00:05:30,540 See this spatter pattern here? 93 00:05:30,575 --> 00:05:33,245 To get cast off like this, 94 00:05:33,280 --> 00:05:35,840 the weapon has to be moving hard and fast. 95 00:05:35,875 --> 00:05:38,157 This guy was really angry. 96 00:05:38,192 --> 00:05:40,296 And the husband? Same thing. 97 00:05:40,331 --> 00:05:42,400 Another six hits, no hesitations. 98 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:46,600 I reckon they were dead after the first couple of wounds. 99 00:05:50,520 --> 00:05:52,565 Can you think of a reason 100 00:05:52,600 --> 00:05:55,080 why anyone would want to harm your parents? 101 00:05:55,115 --> 00:05:57,085 No. 102 00:05:57,120 --> 00:05:59,300 They are lovely people. 103 00:05:59,335 --> 00:06:01,445 Everyone loves them. 104 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:03,880 Maybe they were having financial troubles? 105 00:06:04,960 --> 00:06:07,005 Doing up a place like this 106 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:10,200 can spiral out of control. Maybe they needed some cash. 107 00:06:10,235 --> 00:06:12,400 Tried to borrow some from someone? No. 108 00:06:12,435 --> 00:06:14,417 My dad budgets for everything. 109 00:06:14,452 --> 00:06:16,400 Right down to the last penny. 110 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:20,405 This was their dream home. 111 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:22,800 They wanted to get it exactly right. 112 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:26,405 It was for their retirement. 113 00:06:26,440 --> 00:06:28,740 When they finally sold the agency. 114 00:06:28,775 --> 00:06:31,040 They were in business together? 115 00:06:31,075 --> 00:06:33,045 Sleepytime Sitters. 116 00:06:33,080 --> 00:06:35,040 It's a baby-sitting agency. 117 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:40,300 Might there be somebody with a grudge? 118 00:06:40,335 --> 00:06:42,560 Maybe an employee that you had to let go? 119 00:06:42,595 --> 00:06:44,605 David always said 120 00:06:44,640 --> 00:06:47,380 treat people fairly and you'll see the best of them. 121 00:06:47,415 --> 00:06:50,120 A lot of our ladies have been with us for years. 122 00:06:50,155 --> 00:06:52,165 You've never had to sack anybody? 123 00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:54,405 If someone really wasn't working out, 124 00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:57,040 Elaine had such a gentle way of dealing with it. 125 00:06:57,075 --> 00:06:58,685 It was like she was helping them 126 00:06:58,720 --> 00:07:01,040 find something they were better suited to. 127 00:07:01,075 --> 00:07:03,325 Bob Mitchell will tell you a different story. 128 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:06,245 Who is Bob Mitchell? The partner in the early days. 129 00:07:06,280 --> 00:07:09,640 Thought he was a real go-getter. And that wasn't their way? 130 00:07:09,675 --> 00:07:12,440 Definitely not. They dissolved the partnership. 131 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:16,840 Six months after he was ditched by the Lerners, 132 00:07:16,875 --> 00:07:19,137 Mitchell declared himself bankrupt. 133 00:07:19,172 --> 00:07:21,365 Since then it looks like he's lurched 134 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:24,560 from one failed business to the next. This is his latest. 135 00:07:24,595 --> 00:07:27,245 While his former partners are making a fortune? 136 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:30,800 That could make a man bitter. Did you get anything from Ellie? 137 00:07:30,835 --> 00:07:34,000 In her opinion, it was nasty and quite possibly personal. 138 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:39,600 I realised I was in the wrong sector and refocused my goals. 139 00:07:39,800 --> 00:07:42,640 Haven't looked back. So really they did you a favour? 140 00:07:42,675 --> 00:07:45,440 Yes, actually. Where were you Saturday evening? 141 00:07:45,475 --> 00:07:47,445 Around midnight? 142 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:49,525 About 150 miles away. 143 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:52,540 I was attending an entrepreneurial weekend in Stoke. 144 00:07:52,575 --> 00:07:55,520 Can any of your fellow entrepreneurs confirm that? 145 00:07:55,555 --> 00:07:57,525 I wasn't sharing a room 146 00:07:57,560 --> 00:07:59,600 but they saw me leave the bar. 147 00:07:59,635 --> 00:08:01,645 Mitchell checks out. 148 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:05,280 Several guests remember him being drunk and annoying around 11:30. 149 00:08:05,315 --> 00:08:08,097 We have no other suspects? According to everyone, 150 00:08:08,132 --> 00:08:10,880 the Lerners are saints. Not an enemy in the world. 151 00:08:10,915 --> 00:08:13,217 What about the bloody thumb print? 152 00:08:13,252 --> 00:08:15,326 We've printed 26 of the workers, guv, 153 00:08:15,361 --> 00:08:17,365 but not one of them even comes close. 154 00:08:17,400 --> 00:08:20,960 So if everyone who knew them loved them, what are we left with? 155 00:08:20,995 --> 00:08:24,205 An aborted burglary? Or... random nutter. 156 00:08:24,240 --> 00:08:27,160 Either way... Let me guess, we go back to the beginning, 157 00:08:27,195 --> 00:08:29,120 and see if we missed anything? 158 00:08:32,720 --> 00:08:35,040 Elaine is asleep on the right-hand side, 159 00:08:35,075 --> 00:08:37,485 David asleep on the left. 160 00:08:37,520 --> 00:08:39,925 Our man comes in, doesn't touch anything. 161 00:08:39,960 --> 00:08:42,680 Makes his way to the right-hand side of the bed. 162 00:08:42,715 --> 00:08:44,960 He braces himself against the headboard 163 00:08:44,995 --> 00:08:47,005 and then stabs her multiple times. 164 00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:50,165 The partial print we have is off his right thumb. 165 00:08:50,200 --> 00:08:54,000 Fine. Then we've narrowed it down to a left-handed killer. 166 00:08:54,035 --> 00:08:56,005 But then David wakes up, 167 00:08:56,040 --> 00:08:58,080 tries to stop him, they fight, 168 00:08:58,115 --> 00:09:00,125 he loses, 169 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:02,885 and then he falls backwards over Elaine's body. 170 00:09:02,920 --> 00:09:06,480 So now we have two dead bodies. Where does he go? What does he do? 171 00:09:06,515 --> 00:09:09,477 He doesn't touch anything. He doesn't steal anything. 172 00:09:09,512 --> 00:09:12,440 No, instead, he goes downstairs and he has a wash. 173 00:09:12,475 --> 00:09:14,400 In the kitchen sink. 174 00:09:16,400 --> 00:09:18,445 Do you need me to move? 175 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:21,780 No, no, you're fine, don't worry. We won't be much longer. 176 00:09:21,815 --> 00:09:25,080 Although you might prefer not to listen to this. That's OK. 177 00:09:25,115 --> 00:09:27,125 So he cleans up in the sink. 178 00:09:27,160 --> 00:09:30,080 And then he goes out the way he came in. 179 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:33,360 Why not just go through the door? 180 00:09:34,400 --> 00:09:36,445 It's always double locked. 181 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:38,760 He wouldn't know that. Unless he tried it. 182 00:09:38,795 --> 00:09:41,040 But he didn't. No prints inside or out 183 00:09:41,075 --> 00:09:43,000 and he wasn't wearing gloves. 184 00:09:44,120 --> 00:09:47,560 Do you have the keys to the door, please, Elizabeth? 185 00:09:49,800 --> 00:09:51,845 The fence isn't very high. 186 00:09:51,880 --> 00:09:55,200 But why didn't he try the door before the window? 187 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:03,160 JAE Security Services. 188 00:10:03,195 --> 00:10:05,165 Elizabeth... 189 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:07,160 Elizabeth, sorry. 190 00:10:09,040 --> 00:10:11,320 There used to be another door here, yeah? 191 00:10:11,355 --> 00:10:13,325 Yeah. 192 00:10:13,360 --> 00:10:15,405 A big metal security door. 193 00:10:15,440 --> 00:10:18,160 My parents took it out when they did the kitchen. 194 00:10:18,195 --> 00:10:20,200 The house was like Fort Knox. 195 00:10:20,235 --> 00:10:22,245 Right. 196 00:10:22,280 --> 00:10:25,720 And do you know the name of the people that lived here before? 197 00:10:26,800 --> 00:10:29,965 A woman called Camilla Mallon. 198 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:32,280 She was in the papers a couple of years ago 199 00:10:32,315 --> 00:10:34,697 after some big hedge fund collapsed. 200 00:10:34,732 --> 00:10:37,045 Turned out it had all been a scam. 201 00:10:37,080 --> 00:10:40,005 Her partners were all done for fraud but she got off. 202 00:10:40,040 --> 00:10:43,520 A lot of people weren't very happy. That's why she had to move. 203 00:10:43,555 --> 00:10:45,560 Maybe she received some threats. 204 00:10:45,595 --> 00:10:47,605 That's what my mum said. 205 00:10:47,640 --> 00:10:49,680 That's why they got such a good price. 206 00:10:54,640 --> 00:10:56,680 Oh, my god. 207 00:10:56,715 --> 00:10:58,725 Yeah. 208 00:10:58,760 --> 00:11:01,560 Maybe your parents weren't the intended victims. 209 00:11:01,595 --> 00:11:03,520 Did she leave a forwarding address? 210 00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:14,460 The threats came from investors who lost money. 211 00:11:14,495 --> 00:11:17,045 They were sent to the office, never my home. 212 00:11:17,080 --> 00:11:19,885 The police didn't think I was in any real danger. 213 00:11:19,920 --> 00:11:23,360 But it seemed sensible to move somewhere with more security. 214 00:11:23,395 --> 00:11:26,165 Some people weren't too pleased that you got off? 215 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:28,885 If it wasn't enough that I lost my marriage, my business 216 00:11:28,920 --> 00:11:32,160 and nearly took the fall for a fraud I knew nothing about, then no, 217 00:11:32,195 --> 00:11:34,645 apparently not. What about your partners? 218 00:11:34,680 --> 00:11:38,160 They can't have been pleased when you gave evidence against them? 219 00:11:38,195 --> 00:11:40,920 They were going down with or without my evidence. 220 00:11:40,955 --> 00:11:43,040 Anyway, they are both still in prison. 221 00:11:44,360 --> 00:11:47,160 You're not suggesting they hired some kind of hitman? 222 00:11:48,240 --> 00:11:50,245 What would be the point? 223 00:11:50,280 --> 00:11:52,325 Mallon got off on a technicality. 224 00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:55,080 Did a deal with the FSA, ratted out her partners. 225 00:11:55,115 --> 00:11:57,125 That must have made you angry? 226 00:11:57,160 --> 00:12:00,445 They conned me out of nearly a quarter of a million pounds. 227 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:04,320 How do you think I felt? Angry enough to write a threatening letter. 228 00:12:04,355 --> 00:12:07,480 I'd had a few whiskies too many. Wanted to let off steam. 229 00:12:07,515 --> 00:12:09,685 At the end of the day, she was small fry. 230 00:12:09,720 --> 00:12:13,160 It was the other two who screwed me over and they're behind bars. 231 00:12:13,195 --> 00:12:16,600 Justice was done. And luckily I can afford to lose a few quid. 232 00:12:17,680 --> 00:12:19,725 That is fortunate. 233 00:12:19,760 --> 00:12:22,245 Our whole life savings gone just like that. 234 00:12:22,280 --> 00:12:25,440 First risk I ever took in my life. And the last. 235 00:12:25,475 --> 00:12:27,497 Camilla Mallon gets off scot free. 236 00:12:27,532 --> 00:12:29,520 She'll get what's coming to her. 237 00:12:29,555 --> 00:12:31,565 Yeah? 238 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:34,485 I hear you created quite a scene outside the court. 239 00:12:34,520 --> 00:12:38,360 Sounded like you were ready to get violent. What good would that do? 240 00:12:38,395 --> 00:12:41,765 No. We're taking out a civil action against all three of them. 241 00:12:41,800 --> 00:12:45,760 Me and about 50 other investors. I'll tell you something for nothing. 242 00:12:45,795 --> 00:12:48,645 That Mallon woman, real piece of work. In what way? 243 00:12:48,680 --> 00:12:51,880 Husband stands by her right through the trial, then she gets off, 244 00:12:51,915 --> 00:12:54,600 dumps him and takes him to the cleaners in the divorce. 245 00:12:56,400 --> 00:12:58,445 No-one screwed anyone over. 246 00:12:58,480 --> 00:13:00,660 We just both took out what we put in. 247 00:13:00,695 --> 00:13:02,805 Which wasn't a lot in my case, it's true. 248 00:13:02,840 --> 00:13:05,880 University lecturers don't tend to rake in the cash. 249 00:13:05,915 --> 00:13:08,320 But, hey, we're not in it for the money. 250 00:13:08,355 --> 00:13:10,365 Much like police officers. 251 00:13:10,400 --> 00:13:13,320 You're sure it was Camilla this person meant to kill? 252 00:13:13,355 --> 00:13:15,365 It's a definite possibility, yeah. 253 00:13:15,400 --> 00:13:17,525 God. I just can't get my head round it. 254 00:13:17,560 --> 00:13:20,600 It was pretty frightening when people made threats. 255 00:13:20,635 --> 00:13:22,885 But neither of us really believed them. 256 00:13:22,920 --> 00:13:25,960 So you and your wife, you separated after the trial? 257 00:13:25,995 --> 00:13:28,937 And you both moved out of the house? Yeah, that's right. 258 00:13:28,972 --> 00:13:31,880 There was no bad feeling? No row about who got what? 259 00:13:31,915 --> 00:13:33,840 No, nothing like that, why? 260 00:13:34,920 --> 00:13:36,925 You're kidding? 261 00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:38,965 You think I'm a suspect? 262 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:41,045 These are just routine questions. 263 00:13:41,080 --> 00:13:44,720 I was married to Camilla for five years. I do know where she lives. 264 00:13:44,755 --> 00:13:47,285 And I certainly know what she looks like. 265 00:13:47,320 --> 00:13:50,440 I'm hardly going to mix her up with someone else, am I? 266 00:13:54,360 --> 00:13:56,400 We spoke to about a dozen investors 267 00:13:56,435 --> 00:13:58,445 who made explicit threats. 268 00:13:58,480 --> 00:14:00,685 But so far none of them really jump out. 269 00:14:00,720 --> 00:14:03,360 It's gonna take months to track down the rest. 270 00:14:03,395 --> 00:14:05,645 The ex-husband couldn't narrow it? No. 271 00:14:05,680 --> 00:14:09,400 He wasn't interested in his wife's business. Typical healthy marriage. 272 00:14:09,435 --> 00:14:13,117 This is interesting. Half an hour before the Lerners were killed, 273 00:14:13,152 --> 00:14:16,800 a Ford Focus has an encounter with a lamp post two streets away. 274 00:14:16,835 --> 00:14:19,737 The driver of the vehicle abandons it. Thank you. 275 00:14:19,772 --> 00:14:22,640 And the vehicle is towed away the following morning. 276 00:14:22,675 --> 00:14:24,685 And this is relevant how? 277 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:27,240 Well, it's relevant because said Ford Focus 278 00:14:27,275 --> 00:14:30,560 is registered to a Mr Lucas Boyd. 279 00:14:30,595 --> 00:14:32,520 Our lady banker's ex. 280 00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:35,560 Bet he didn't mention that, did he? 281 00:14:38,800 --> 00:14:41,920 I'm sorry. I know I should have told you about the crash. 282 00:14:41,955 --> 00:14:43,880 So why didn't you? 283 00:14:44,960 --> 00:14:47,005 I didn't think it was relevant. 284 00:14:47,040 --> 00:14:50,280 And, well, to be honest, I'd had a few drinks. 285 00:14:50,315 --> 00:14:52,320 But I just took the corner too fast. 286 00:14:52,355 --> 00:14:54,365 No-one else was involved. 287 00:14:54,400 --> 00:14:56,960 This isn't about the drink driving, Mr Boyd. 288 00:14:56,995 --> 00:14:58,960 Just tell us what happened. Sure. 289 00:14:58,995 --> 00:15:01,005 Um... 290 00:15:01,040 --> 00:15:03,640 I met up with a few colleagues in a bar in Putney. 291 00:15:03,675 --> 00:15:06,565 And... I was driving home with Josh. 292 00:15:06,600 --> 00:15:09,440 Josh Shelton. He teaches sports science. 293 00:15:10,520 --> 00:15:12,565 And... 294 00:15:12,600 --> 00:15:14,600 it turns out we should have got a cab. 295 00:15:16,600 --> 00:15:19,280 So you were a five-minute walk from your old house? 296 00:15:19,315 --> 00:15:21,325 I suppose so. 297 00:15:21,360 --> 00:15:24,200 It's a bit odd that you were in the same area the same night. 298 00:15:24,235 --> 00:15:27,125 Not really. I live in Colliers Wood just up the road. 299 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:30,960 So after the crash, Josh and yourself just headed home, yeah? Yeah. 300 00:15:30,995 --> 00:15:33,005 Well, Josh took a cab to his. I... 301 00:15:33,040 --> 00:15:36,120 I felt I needed some air, so I walked. 302 00:15:37,560 --> 00:15:39,600 Lucas said he drove you home, Josh. 303 00:15:39,635 --> 00:15:41,645 I was wasted. 304 00:15:41,680 --> 00:15:44,800 I didn't realise how far gone Lucas was until we got in the car. 305 00:15:44,835 --> 00:15:47,680 Two pint is his limit, he's the designated driver. 306 00:15:47,715 --> 00:15:49,725 But Saturday was different. 307 00:15:49,760 --> 00:15:52,805 He was a man on a mission. About time, too. 308 00:15:52,840 --> 00:15:55,760 How come? The bloke's been divorced almost 18 months. 309 00:15:55,795 --> 00:15:58,680 We kept telling him to relax a bit, have some fun. 310 00:15:58,715 --> 00:16:00,725 Tell me about the accident. 311 00:16:00,760 --> 00:16:03,285 Not much to tell. Lucas was driving too fast. 312 00:16:03,320 --> 00:16:06,360 Lost control round a bend, wrapped us round a lamp post. 313 00:16:07,480 --> 00:16:11,200 I banged my shoulder, but nothing too serious. What about Lucas? 314 00:16:11,235 --> 00:16:13,920 He smacked his head against the steering wheel. 315 00:16:13,955 --> 00:16:16,045 Might even have knocked himself out. 316 00:16:16,080 --> 00:16:19,480 But he came round after a few minutes and said he'd walk it off. 317 00:16:19,515 --> 00:16:22,125 Beer. Natural anaesthetic. 318 00:16:22,160 --> 00:16:25,360 The mate backs up Lucas's story about the crash. 319 00:16:25,395 --> 00:16:27,085 But he couldn't be sure 320 00:16:27,120 --> 00:16:29,640 which direction he headed off in afterwards. 321 00:16:29,675 --> 00:16:32,177 Back in the days when I was drinking, 322 00:16:32,212 --> 00:16:34,686 I once went on a bender for three days. 323 00:16:34,721 --> 00:16:37,000 Aside from the train ticket to Hull, 324 00:16:37,035 --> 00:16:39,280 and a receipt for two hedge trimmers, 325 00:16:39,315 --> 00:16:41,357 it's still a complete blank. 326 00:16:41,392 --> 00:16:43,365 Anyway, once I'd staggered home, 327 00:16:43,400 --> 00:16:45,445 it took me about half an hour to realise 328 00:16:45,480 --> 00:16:48,720 I was standing at the wrong house. I lived two doors down. 329 00:16:48,755 --> 00:16:51,360 You think Lucas went to his old house by mistake? 330 00:16:51,395 --> 00:16:53,645 I don't know but he was paralytic drunk, 331 00:16:53,680 --> 00:16:56,300 he'd had a bang on the head, it is a possibility. 332 00:16:56,335 --> 00:16:58,885 But he was used to there being a security door 333 00:16:58,920 --> 00:17:02,460 so maybe that made him go through a window. Why kill the Lerners? 334 00:17:02,495 --> 00:17:06,000 If he was still drunk enough to think he lived in that house... 335 00:17:06,035 --> 00:17:09,200 Maybe it wasn't such an amicable divorce after all. 336 00:17:12,080 --> 00:17:14,125 Obviously I can't go into details, 337 00:17:14,160 --> 00:17:16,885 but the fact is he never said a bad word about her. 338 00:17:16,920 --> 00:17:20,640 In my experience, divorce normally brings out the worst in people. 339 00:17:20,675 --> 00:17:22,685 Trust me, it does. 340 00:17:22,720 --> 00:17:26,160 But Lucas, Mr Boyd, he couldn't have been nicer. 341 00:17:26,195 --> 00:17:28,765 That must have made your job a lot easier. 342 00:17:28,800 --> 00:17:31,685 To be honest, it was a bit frustrating. Why's that? 343 00:17:31,720 --> 00:17:36,000 They'd been married five years, he was entitled to half the house. 344 00:17:36,035 --> 00:17:38,125 But he didn't want to fight her for it. 345 00:17:38,160 --> 00:17:41,685 Right. And have you had any more dealings with him? 346 00:17:41,720 --> 00:17:45,640 Yeah, when he was buying his flat, he asked me to do the conveyancing. 347 00:17:45,675 --> 00:17:48,757 But I only do family law so I passed him on to a colleague. 348 00:17:48,792 --> 00:17:51,805 When was the last time you spoke to him? A few days ago. 349 00:17:51,840 --> 00:17:55,280 He'd read about those people getting killed in his old house, 350 00:17:55,315 --> 00:17:58,360 said he'd been having these vivid nightmares about it. 351 00:17:58,395 --> 00:18:00,925 When you say "vivid nightmares", 352 00:18:00,960 --> 00:18:04,120 he was dreaming that he'd been murdered in his old house? 353 00:18:04,155 --> 00:18:07,800 No. In the dreams he isn't the one who gets killed. 354 00:18:07,835 --> 00:18:09,760 He's the killer. 355 00:18:11,360 --> 00:18:13,245 I keep telling you I was drunk. 356 00:18:13,280 --> 00:18:16,000 I don't remember anything after the crash. 357 00:18:16,035 --> 00:18:18,720 You had a blackout? I don't know. I guess. 358 00:18:19,840 --> 00:18:23,800 Just take a look at the photographs for me, please, Lucas, if you will. 359 00:18:23,835 --> 00:18:27,097 Why would I do that to those people? I didn't even know them. 360 00:18:27,132 --> 00:18:30,360 I'm not saying that you went there intending to kill them. 361 00:18:30,395 --> 00:18:32,925 Maybe it was a mistake. What kind of mistake? 362 00:18:32,960 --> 00:18:36,080 I know how it can be. You have a little too much to drink. 363 00:18:36,115 --> 00:18:38,760 You do things you regret. I'm not an alcoholic. 364 00:18:38,795 --> 00:18:40,720 This was a one-off. 365 00:18:41,800 --> 00:18:45,040 Don't you think I'd remember doing something like that? 366 00:18:45,075 --> 00:18:47,000 Not necessarily. 367 00:18:52,480 --> 00:18:54,560 This is crazy. I didn't do this. 368 00:18:54,595 --> 00:18:56,565 I couldn't. 369 00:18:56,600 --> 00:18:58,880 OK, what about the next morning, then? 370 00:18:58,915 --> 00:19:01,125 Lucas, you had blood on your clothes, yes? 371 00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:04,960 Well, yes, I cut my head in the accident. Of course there was blood. 372 00:19:04,995 --> 00:19:08,040 Maybe there was more blood than there should have been. 373 00:19:09,400 --> 00:19:11,365 No. 374 00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:13,485 No, there wasn't. 375 00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:16,240 What did you do with the clothes? I washed them. 376 00:19:16,275 --> 00:19:18,960 I don't know anything about how these people died. 377 00:19:20,760 --> 00:19:22,760 OK. 378 00:19:26,440 --> 00:19:30,520 So, what is it that you see in your dreams? 379 00:19:30,555 --> 00:19:32,480 In my dreams? Yeah. 380 00:19:32,515 --> 00:19:34,565 You're joking? 381 00:19:34,600 --> 00:19:37,920 Well, you have dreamed about killing them, haven't you? 382 00:19:37,955 --> 00:19:41,240 So you tell me in your dream how do you get into the house? 383 00:19:41,275 --> 00:19:43,325 You don't have a key. 384 00:19:43,360 --> 00:19:46,320 What do you do? Do you look for a spare? Or... 385 00:19:47,400 --> 00:19:49,400 .. try and get in through a window? 386 00:19:49,435 --> 00:19:52,117 You know what I think, Lucas? 387 00:19:52,152 --> 00:19:54,800 I think you started to walk home. 388 00:19:55,880 --> 00:19:58,760 Without realising, you ended up at your old house. 389 00:19:58,795 --> 00:20:00,777 I think he could be on the verge. 390 00:20:00,812 --> 00:20:02,760 Then this should push him over. 391 00:20:03,840 --> 00:20:05,845 Prints a match. 392 00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:09,040 You certainly don't notice that your old security door 393 00:20:09,075 --> 00:20:11,045 has been taken away. 394 00:20:11,080 --> 00:20:14,120 How would I know that? I haven't been there since we moved. 395 00:20:14,155 --> 00:20:16,165 That's just it. 396 00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:18,160 That's why we went, isn't it? 397 00:20:22,760 --> 00:20:24,760 He's our killer. 398 00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:28,520 And he doesn't even remember doing it. 399 00:20:46,100 --> 00:20:49,140 My Lord, Mr Boyd has no history of violent behaviour. 400 00:20:49,175 --> 00:20:51,697 He is a well-respected university lecturer 401 00:20:51,732 --> 00:20:54,220 with strong ties to the local community. 402 00:20:54,255 --> 00:20:56,265 But with no immediate family nearby 403 00:20:56,300 --> 00:20:58,785 and a double murder charge hanging over him, 404 00:20:58,820 --> 00:21:02,020 neither of which provide much incentive to stick around. 405 00:21:02,055 --> 00:21:04,065 Bail is refused. 406 00:21:04,100 --> 00:21:06,980 Mr Boyd, you will be remanded into custody. 407 00:21:10,220 --> 00:21:12,260 He's in a state of shock. 408 00:21:12,295 --> 00:21:14,337 He's hardly a flight risk. 409 00:21:14,372 --> 00:21:16,345 Another of your lost lambs? 410 00:21:16,380 --> 00:21:19,820 The man has been completely steam-rollered by the police. 411 00:21:19,855 --> 00:21:23,260 There's still his thumbprint in the victims' blood. Partial. 412 00:21:23,295 --> 00:21:25,465 Which means it's only a partial match. 413 00:21:25,500 --> 00:21:29,500 Close enough to satisfy an expert. Assuming you can use it as evidence. 414 00:21:29,535 --> 00:21:31,505 Why wouldn't we be? 415 00:21:31,540 --> 00:21:33,585 Because of the way it was obtained. 416 00:21:33,620 --> 00:21:35,800 Lucas Boyd was arrested purely to allow 417 00:21:35,835 --> 00:21:38,027 the police to take his fingerprints. 418 00:21:38,062 --> 00:21:40,241 Because they had reasonable suspicion 419 00:21:40,276 --> 00:21:42,420 based on a reliable witness statement. 420 00:21:42,455 --> 00:21:44,465 A second-hand account of a dream. 421 00:21:44,500 --> 00:21:47,700 An account that came from Lucas Boyd's own solicitor. 422 00:21:47,735 --> 00:21:49,985 Are you claiming privilege? Of course. 423 00:21:50,020 --> 00:21:53,660 It was a personal phone call. It's a bit of a long shot. We'll see. 424 00:21:53,695 --> 00:21:56,065 Nothing ventured, nothing gained, Jacob. 425 00:21:56,100 --> 00:21:58,500 Did you learn nothing from our time together? 426 00:22:00,900 --> 00:22:03,905 Mags was my mistress. Pupil mistress. 427 00:22:03,940 --> 00:22:06,300 And you thought you knew it all even then. 428 00:22:11,660 --> 00:22:15,460 My Lord, the rules on legal professional privilege protect 429 00:22:15,495 --> 00:22:19,260 all communications between a solicitor and his or her client. 430 00:22:19,295 --> 00:22:21,105 That may be so but the fact remains 431 00:22:21,140 --> 00:22:24,220 that the witness was not under instruction by the defendant. 432 00:22:24,255 --> 00:22:27,345 Miss Byers had previously handled my client's divorce. 433 00:22:27,380 --> 00:22:31,340 So it's reasonable to assume that if he required further legal advice, 434 00:22:31,375 --> 00:22:33,740 she would be the person that he would call. 435 00:22:33,775 --> 00:22:35,785 As he in fact did. 436 00:22:35,820 --> 00:22:39,300 He made a personal phone call during which he discussed the murders. 437 00:22:39,335 --> 00:22:41,345 He disclosed personal information 438 00:22:41,380 --> 00:22:44,000 believing it would be treated as confidential. 439 00:22:44,035 --> 00:22:46,585 To use it as grounds for arrest was unlawful, 440 00:22:46,620 --> 00:22:49,705 so the fingerprints the police subsequently obtained 441 00:22:49,740 --> 00:22:53,180 cannot be used as evidence. I accept your logic, Ms Rumsfield, 442 00:22:53,420 --> 00:22:55,585 but issues of confidentiality aside, 443 00:22:55,620 --> 00:22:58,540 the print obtained from Mr Boyd proved to be a match. 444 00:22:58,575 --> 00:23:00,385 As I'm sure you're aware, 445 00:23:00,420 --> 00:23:03,300 partial prints have been known to be misleading. 446 00:23:03,335 --> 00:23:06,180 Less so, when combined with bloodstains, My Lord. 447 00:23:06,215 --> 00:23:08,580 DNA from both victims has now been retrieved 448 00:23:08,615 --> 00:23:10,505 from the defendant's clothing 449 00:23:10,540 --> 00:23:14,020 which Miss Rumsfield appears to have conveniently forgotten. 450 00:23:14,055 --> 00:23:17,500 That would certainly seem to reduce the margin for error. 451 00:23:17,535 --> 00:23:20,025 Ms Rumsfield, your application is refused. 452 00:23:20,060 --> 00:23:24,860 My client will be relying on a defence of non-insane automatism. 453 00:23:26,540 --> 00:23:29,460 I don't understand! We know he killed them! 454 00:23:29,495 --> 00:23:31,465 He's not even denying it. 455 00:23:31,500 --> 00:23:33,540 So why isn't he pleading guilty? 456 00:23:33,575 --> 00:23:35,617 It all comes down to intention. 457 00:23:35,652 --> 00:23:37,625 To get a verdict of murder, 458 00:23:37,660 --> 00:23:40,700 we have to show that Lucas Boyd meant to kill your parents. 459 00:23:40,735 --> 00:23:42,777 He stabbed them over a dozen times. 460 00:23:42,812 --> 00:23:44,785 Of course he meant to kill them. 461 00:23:44,820 --> 00:23:48,080 But because he didn't know them and had no obvious motive, 462 00:23:48,115 --> 00:23:51,340 the defence say he didn't know what he was doing. So what? 463 00:23:51,375 --> 00:23:53,385 They're still dead. 464 00:23:53,420 --> 00:23:55,505 My mum and dad are gone because of him 465 00:23:55,540 --> 00:23:58,425 whether he knew what he was doing or not. Exactly. 466 00:23:58,460 --> 00:24:01,500 And we're going to make sure the jury don't forget that. 467 00:24:05,100 --> 00:24:07,060 I never met those people. 468 00:24:08,140 --> 00:24:10,100 I've no idea why... 469 00:24:13,660 --> 00:24:15,620 How does it make you feel? 470 00:24:18,140 --> 00:24:20,180 I have nightmares. 471 00:24:20,215 --> 00:24:22,185 All the time. 472 00:24:22,220 --> 00:24:24,260 It's like I'm there. I can see them. 473 00:24:24,295 --> 00:24:26,220 But I still don't know why. 474 00:24:28,580 --> 00:24:31,300 And I don't even know if the nightmares are true. 475 00:24:31,335 --> 00:24:33,260 I don't even know if I did it. 476 00:24:34,140 --> 00:24:36,100 You still don't remember? 477 00:24:38,140 --> 00:24:40,820 So what do you remember? 478 00:24:44,540 --> 00:24:46,545 We'd been to a bar. 479 00:24:46,580 --> 00:24:48,585 Josh and I left together. 480 00:24:48,620 --> 00:24:50,900 I remember music playing in the car. 481 00:24:50,935 --> 00:24:53,180 Then I must have swerved or something. 482 00:24:53,215 --> 00:24:55,197 I hit a lamp post 483 00:24:55,232 --> 00:24:57,180 and I hit my head. 484 00:24:59,060 --> 00:25:01,460 Then Josh hailed a cab. 485 00:25:01,495 --> 00:25:03,877 And what did you do? 486 00:25:03,912 --> 00:25:06,260 I thought I walked home. 487 00:25:07,340 --> 00:25:09,300 But you didn't. 488 00:25:11,100 --> 00:25:13,060 I don't know. 489 00:25:15,300 --> 00:25:18,340 An alcoholic blackout combined with the head injury 490 00:25:18,375 --> 00:25:20,897 could have set off his associative episode. 491 00:25:20,932 --> 00:25:23,420 It's possible he didn't know what he was doing 492 00:25:23,455 --> 00:25:25,705 and genuinely doesn't remember it now. 493 00:25:25,740 --> 00:25:28,660 Even if he had a blackout, he caused it by drinking. 494 00:25:28,695 --> 00:25:30,865 So he's still guilty of manslaughter. 495 00:25:30,900 --> 00:25:34,660 Except with multiple factors, we can't say which one triggered it. 496 00:25:34,695 --> 00:25:37,540 If it's the head injury, that's a different story. 497 00:25:37,575 --> 00:25:39,585 So he could walk? 498 00:25:39,620 --> 00:25:42,940 Never mind the dead couple he left lying in their own blood. 499 00:25:42,975 --> 00:25:44,980 Are we missing the obvious here? 500 00:25:45,015 --> 00:25:47,025 The guy got drunk, 501 00:25:47,060 --> 00:25:49,265 got worked up, went looking for his ex, 502 00:25:49,300 --> 00:25:52,305 but ended up at the wrong house because he was pissed. 503 00:25:52,340 --> 00:25:55,940 He knew exactly what he was doing, he just did it to the wrong people. 504 00:25:55,975 --> 00:25:58,917 There's no conscious motive for wanting to kill the ex-wife. 505 00:25:58,952 --> 00:26:01,860 Maybe he regretted he'd let her walk off with the money. 506 00:26:01,895 --> 00:26:03,905 This was bloody and frenzied. 507 00:26:03,940 --> 00:26:06,225 I'd say the motivation was more primal. 508 00:26:06,260 --> 00:26:09,660 Well, money or passion, they both take us back to the ex. 509 00:26:12,460 --> 00:26:14,460 No, not Lucas. 510 00:26:14,495 --> 00:26:16,460 It's crazy. 511 00:26:18,620 --> 00:26:20,660 Do you still see each other? 512 00:26:20,695 --> 00:26:22,705 Occasionally. 513 00:26:22,740 --> 00:26:26,260 We've... tried to remain civilised through everything. 514 00:26:26,295 --> 00:26:28,317 Just because we're no longer together 515 00:26:28,352 --> 00:26:30,340 doesn't mean I don't care about him. 516 00:26:31,260 --> 00:26:35,060 You must have both been under a great deal of pressure with the trial? 517 00:26:35,095 --> 00:26:37,065 It wasn't like that. 518 00:26:37,100 --> 00:26:39,120 I know what you're trying to do. 519 00:26:39,155 --> 00:26:41,105 You think Lucas must be harbouring 520 00:26:41,140 --> 00:26:43,580 some kind of seething resentment against me. 521 00:26:43,615 --> 00:26:45,585 But it's not true. 522 00:26:45,620 --> 00:26:47,665 The marriage just wasn't working. 523 00:26:47,700 --> 00:26:49,900 Yes, I instigated divorce proceedings 524 00:26:49,935 --> 00:26:51,860 but it was completely amicable. 525 00:26:52,780 --> 00:26:54,825 According to his solicitor, 526 00:26:54,860 --> 00:26:58,500 Lucas only agreed to the divorce because it was Camilla's idea. 527 00:26:58,535 --> 00:27:00,857 That was the basis of their relationship. 528 00:27:00,892 --> 00:27:03,145 She said, "Jump", he said, "How high?" 529 00:27:03,180 --> 00:27:06,460 So 18 months later, he has to accept she's not coming back. 530 00:27:06,495 --> 00:27:09,740 He thinks about those years being treated like dirt. He cracks. 531 00:27:09,775 --> 00:27:12,140 The husband scorned, that we can work with. 532 00:27:15,260 --> 00:27:17,865 So in your professional opinion, Miss Byers, 533 00:27:17,900 --> 00:27:22,020 if anyone had grounds for divorce, it would have been your client Mr Boyd? 534 00:27:22,055 --> 00:27:23,945 That's correct. There had been 535 00:27:23,980 --> 00:27:26,620 multiple examples of unreasonable behaviour. 536 00:27:26,655 --> 00:27:29,225 They hadn't been on holiday for three years, 537 00:27:29,260 --> 00:27:32,880 because his wife hadn't wanted to take the time off work. 538 00:27:32,915 --> 00:27:36,500 And their sexual relationship had ended some time before 539 00:27:36,535 --> 00:27:38,825 because of Ms Mallon's intimacy issues. 540 00:27:38,860 --> 00:27:42,020 Yet in the end, he not only agreed to let her divorce him, 541 00:27:42,055 --> 00:27:44,940 but he also agreed to an 80/20 split of their assets. 542 00:27:44,975 --> 00:27:47,380 Do you know why he chose this course of action? 543 00:27:48,500 --> 00:27:51,740 He told me he wanted to give his wife whatever she wanted. 544 00:27:51,775 --> 00:27:54,825 Then perhaps she'd realise she was making a mistake. 545 00:27:54,860 --> 00:27:59,340 So he didn't actually want the divorce to go through? No. 546 00:27:59,375 --> 00:28:01,385 And yet the divorce did go through? 547 00:28:01,420 --> 00:28:05,340 And Mr Boyd was left with nothing but a burning sense of injustice... 548 00:28:05,375 --> 00:28:08,380 My Lord, Mr Thorne is indulging in lurid speculation. 549 00:28:08,415 --> 00:28:10,860 Save it for your closing speech, Mr Thorne. 550 00:28:10,895 --> 00:28:12,905 Certainly, My Lord. 551 00:28:12,940 --> 00:28:16,020 I'm merely pointing out that the defence of automatism 552 00:28:16,055 --> 00:28:17,985 implies that Mr Boyd experienced 553 00:28:18,020 --> 00:28:20,300 a total loss of control over his actions, 554 00:28:20,335 --> 00:28:22,185 whereas harbouring a grudge 555 00:28:22,220 --> 00:28:25,660 and deciding to kill your ex-wife is a very different matter 556 00:28:25,695 --> 00:28:28,277 whether you end up in the right house or not. 557 00:28:28,312 --> 00:28:30,825 Have you ever had a drunken blackout? 558 00:28:30,860 --> 00:28:33,380 Lost a few hours here and there as a student. 559 00:28:33,415 --> 00:28:35,505 I threw up in someone's garden. Nice. 560 00:28:35,540 --> 00:28:39,340 But your expert agrees it could have been a disassociative episode. 561 00:28:39,375 --> 00:28:41,385 In theory. But now we've shown Boyd 562 00:28:41,420 --> 00:28:43,545 had a motive for wanting his wife dead, 563 00:28:43,580 --> 00:28:46,100 the automatism defence seems too convenient. 564 00:28:53,300 --> 00:28:56,980 So is this where you soften me up, try to get me to lower the charges? 565 00:28:57,015 --> 00:29:00,660 Nothing so gauche. I'm simply buying you a drink to say thank you. 566 00:29:00,695 --> 00:29:02,705 OK. Thank you for what? 567 00:29:02,740 --> 00:29:05,740 Establishing my client's new defence. 568 00:29:05,775 --> 00:29:07,785 We're changing to loss of control 569 00:29:07,820 --> 00:29:10,240 as a result of Battered Person Syndrome. 570 00:29:10,275 --> 00:29:12,660 Right. Who's supposed to have battered who? 571 00:29:12,695 --> 00:29:14,705 It appears Mr Boyd 572 00:29:14,740 --> 00:29:17,820 was subjected to sustained mental and emotional abuse 573 00:29:17,855 --> 00:29:19,865 throughout his marriage. 574 00:29:19,900 --> 00:29:23,600 But like many victims, was unable to admit it, even to himself. 575 00:29:23,635 --> 00:29:27,300 Fortunately, your witness was able to bring the situation to light. 576 00:29:28,700 --> 00:29:30,745 Come off it, Mags. 577 00:29:30,780 --> 00:29:33,385 Male spousal abuse is a serious issue, Jacob. 578 00:29:33,420 --> 00:29:37,200 So it'd be highly unethical to use it as a cynical ploy. 579 00:29:37,235 --> 00:29:41,007 Absolutely. But what we have here is a genuine tragedy. 580 00:29:41,042 --> 00:29:44,780 Lucas Boyd was as much a victim as the people he killed. 581 00:29:44,815 --> 00:29:47,220 Try and tell that to their daughter. 582 00:29:48,300 --> 00:29:50,505 Battered Person Syndrome? 583 00:29:50,540 --> 00:29:53,105 Hoist by your own petard. She's taken your motive 584 00:29:53,140 --> 00:29:56,580 and turned it into a defence. Why not stick with automatism? 585 00:29:56,615 --> 00:29:59,537 At least she had a chance of a complete acquittal. 586 00:29:59,572 --> 00:30:02,460 Failing that, she could have pushed for manslaughter. 587 00:30:02,495 --> 00:30:04,545 What it does is paint Boyd as a victim. 588 00:30:04,580 --> 00:30:07,900 With an unsympathetic jury, he could be looking at murder. 589 00:30:07,935 --> 00:30:09,945 But now instead of an angry bloke, 590 00:30:09,980 --> 00:30:13,420 he becomes a nice guy who knocked his head and finally snapped 591 00:30:13,455 --> 00:30:16,025 after years of mental cruelty. It won't work. 592 00:30:16,060 --> 00:30:19,065 He didn't kill his so-called abuser. He killed the Lerners. 593 00:30:19,100 --> 00:30:22,540 Battered Person Syndrome is no defence against killing strangers. 594 00:30:22,575 --> 00:30:25,357 But so long as he believed he was killing his ex, 595 00:30:25,392 --> 00:30:28,140 Mags can argue that the history of abuse is relevant. 596 00:30:28,175 --> 00:30:30,420 Then you'll have to redress the balance. 597 00:30:30,455 --> 00:30:32,380 I want him put away for murder. 598 00:30:33,380 --> 00:30:35,585 The sad truth is, in our society, 599 00:30:35,620 --> 00:30:38,865 male spousal abuse is still largely treated as a joke. 600 00:30:38,900 --> 00:30:43,420 And would you say the defendant fits the profile of an abused spouse? 601 00:30:43,455 --> 00:30:45,465 Absolutely. 602 00:30:45,500 --> 00:30:48,100 Lucas was repeatedly criticised and humiliated 603 00:30:48,135 --> 00:30:50,217 in front of friends and family. 604 00:30:50,252 --> 00:30:52,265 His ex-wife controlled the finances 605 00:30:52,300 --> 00:30:54,860 and would frequently withhold money and sex 606 00:30:54,895 --> 00:30:57,020 as a means of control and punishment. 607 00:30:57,055 --> 00:30:59,665 So he must have hated his wife? 608 00:30:59,700 --> 00:31:02,385 On the contrary, he loved her very much. 609 00:31:02,420 --> 00:31:05,540 He was desperate for Camilla to become more affectionate 610 00:31:05,575 --> 00:31:08,260 and for them to forge a healthier relationship. 611 00:31:08,295 --> 00:31:10,305 And yet he wanted her dead? 612 00:31:10,340 --> 00:31:13,020 There can come a point where the victim realises 613 00:31:13,055 --> 00:31:15,157 he must break free of his abuser. 614 00:31:15,192 --> 00:31:17,260 By violent means if necessary. 615 00:31:17,295 --> 00:31:19,305 And in your opinion, 616 00:31:19,340 --> 00:31:22,060 is that what happened on the night of the murders? 617 00:31:22,095 --> 00:31:24,020 Yes. I believe so. 618 00:31:26,540 --> 00:31:28,585 Dr Bligh, 619 00:31:28,620 --> 00:31:31,500 how common is it for victims of spousal abuse 620 00:31:31,535 --> 00:31:34,260 to ultimately kill his or her abuser? 621 00:31:34,295 --> 00:31:36,305 Not that common. 622 00:31:36,340 --> 00:31:39,680 But in some cases... People who've been through a painful divorce 623 00:31:39,715 --> 00:31:43,020 frequently get drunk and get angry about the past, do they not? 624 00:31:43,055 --> 00:31:45,037 Yes, of course. But... 625 00:31:45,072 --> 00:31:47,020 Nothing more, My Lord. 626 00:31:49,980 --> 00:31:52,025 Lucas, 627 00:31:52,060 --> 00:31:54,780 is it true that your ex-wife abandoned you 628 00:31:54,815 --> 00:31:57,025 in the middle of your honeymoon 629 00:31:57,060 --> 00:31:59,780 because she decided to return to work early? 630 00:31:59,815 --> 00:32:01,740 She was negotiating a big deal. 631 00:32:02,820 --> 00:32:04,860 She said it was bad timing. 632 00:32:04,895 --> 00:32:06,905 And was it bad timing 633 00:32:06,940 --> 00:32:10,300 when you locked yourself out one night after a faculty party 634 00:32:10,335 --> 00:32:12,940 and Camilla refused to open the door? 635 00:32:12,975 --> 00:32:14,945 She had an early meeting 636 00:32:14,980 --> 00:32:17,025 so she'd asked me not to wake her. 637 00:32:17,060 --> 00:32:19,960 So you were left out in the cold and rain 638 00:32:19,995 --> 00:32:22,860 and had to resort to forcing a window 639 00:32:22,895 --> 00:32:25,385 and climbing into your own home? 640 00:32:25,420 --> 00:32:28,620 Like a burglar? Despite the fact that your wife was inside? 641 00:32:30,020 --> 00:32:31,865 She... 642 00:32:31,900 --> 00:32:34,825 She felt bad the next day. And it only happened once. 643 00:32:34,860 --> 00:32:39,180 How many times did she tell you you should get a better-paid job 644 00:32:39,215 --> 00:32:41,540 because she was sick of supporting you? 645 00:32:41,575 --> 00:32:43,500 Camilla had very high standards. 646 00:32:44,740 --> 00:32:46,700 Something I loved about her. 647 00:32:48,140 --> 00:32:50,660 And how often did she tell you she loved you? 648 00:32:53,300 --> 00:32:55,620 She did tell you she loved you? 649 00:32:55,655 --> 00:32:57,905 You were married after all. 650 00:32:57,940 --> 00:33:00,400 You were meant to be sharing a life together. 651 00:33:00,435 --> 00:33:02,860 Camilla found it hard to be affectionate. 652 00:33:02,895 --> 00:33:05,257 And that could be hurtful sometimes. 653 00:33:05,292 --> 00:33:07,620 But I knew that she cared about me. 654 00:33:09,060 --> 00:33:11,100 And I loved her... 655 00:33:11,135 --> 00:33:13,060 very much. 656 00:33:15,660 --> 00:33:17,620 No further questions, My Lord. 657 00:33:20,060 --> 00:33:22,385 Let's leave it there, Mr Thorne. 658 00:33:22,420 --> 00:33:26,020 We'll resume at 10:00am on Monday with your cross-examination. 659 00:33:27,100 --> 00:33:29,100 Of course, My Lord. 660 00:33:29,135 --> 00:33:31,100 Court will rise! 661 00:33:33,740 --> 00:33:37,740 Camilla! 662 00:33:39,220 --> 00:33:41,260 You can't let him upset you. 663 00:33:41,295 --> 00:33:43,300 Did you hear what he said? 664 00:33:47,300 --> 00:33:50,305 The depressing thing is the jury seem to be buying it. 665 00:33:50,340 --> 00:33:54,180 A lot of men feel emasculated by a woman being the main breadwinner. 666 00:33:54,215 --> 00:33:57,180 Never understood it myself. I'd like to be a kept man. 667 00:33:57,215 --> 00:33:59,665 Sadly, Mrs Sharpe is not amenable. 668 00:33:59,700 --> 00:34:03,100 So it all comes down to how many of the jury resent their wives? 669 00:34:03,135 --> 00:34:05,177 How many heart strings Mags pulls. 670 00:34:05,212 --> 00:34:07,185 Sounds like she played a blinder. 671 00:34:07,220 --> 00:34:09,700 Yep, the wronged husband intent on defending 672 00:34:09,735 --> 00:34:11,700 the abusive wife till the bitter end. 673 00:34:11,735 --> 00:34:13,777 It's a clever choice. 674 00:34:13,812 --> 00:34:15,785 What if he was wronged? 675 00:34:15,820 --> 00:34:17,825 What do you mean? I don't know. 676 00:34:17,860 --> 00:34:20,600 I saw Camilla with Josh Shelton outside the court. 677 00:34:20,635 --> 00:34:23,305 Was he offering her support in her hour of need? 678 00:34:23,340 --> 00:34:27,260 He wasn't snogging her outside the Old Bailey if that's what you mean. 679 00:34:27,295 --> 00:34:29,740 Far from it. From the way they were arguing, 680 00:34:29,775 --> 00:34:31,780 I got the impression... 681 00:34:31,815 --> 00:34:33,740 Lovers' tiff? 682 00:34:34,860 --> 00:34:37,220 If Lucas thought Camilla had a lover... 683 00:34:37,255 --> 00:34:39,265 It's a big "if". 684 00:34:39,300 --> 00:34:42,580 Then it could explain why he killed David as well as Elaine. 685 00:34:42,615 --> 00:34:44,585 Mags can hardly run loss of control 686 00:34:44,620 --> 00:34:47,660 based on him finding out his wife was having an affair. 687 00:34:47,695 --> 00:34:49,700 The judge would throw it out of court. 688 00:34:52,220 --> 00:34:54,905 OK, then we talk to Camilla. 689 00:34:54,940 --> 00:34:57,660 But if I've got to poke around in the intimate details 690 00:34:57,695 --> 00:34:59,940 of the woman's love life, you're coming with me. 691 00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:13,800 I know you must think I'm some kind of monster. 692 00:35:13,835 --> 00:35:16,560 After all the things they've said about me. But... 693 00:35:16,595 --> 00:35:18,520 you have no idea. 694 00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:22,000 I tried. 695 00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:25,125 I really tried. 696 00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:27,800 When we first met, Lucas seemed so... 697 00:35:27,835 --> 00:35:29,845 gentle and sweet. 698 00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:32,760 And then I started to see how needy he was. 699 00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:36,125 He needed constant reassurance. 700 00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:38,820 He wouldn't believe that I wanted to be with him. 701 00:35:38,855 --> 00:35:41,247 He was convinced that I was going to leave him 702 00:35:41,282 --> 00:35:43,640 or that I must be sleeping with other men. 703 00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:47,565 Yes, I know. 704 00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:50,360 But he didn't even want me to see my friends. 705 00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:55,040 Tell them about the night he broke in. 706 00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:01,160 Lucas told you I locked him out. 707 00:36:01,195 --> 00:36:03,160 But that's not what happened. 708 00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:08,440 I managed to persuade him that... 709 00:36:08,475 --> 00:36:10,485 we needed some time apart. 710 00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:13,160 And he agreed to stay with a friend for a few days. 711 00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:18,720 I went to bed and I put the dead bolt on the door. 712 00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:24,045 I woke up at 2:00 in the morning 713 00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:26,400 to find him standing at the foot of the bed. 714 00:36:26,435 --> 00:36:28,360 Sobbing. 715 00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:33,920 He had broken through the kitchen window 716 00:36:33,955 --> 00:36:35,920 and he was holding a knife. 717 00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:43,360 He told me that if... 718 00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:47,640 .. if I didn't let him come home, then he'd kill himself. 719 00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:50,885 And you believed him? 720 00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:52,920 Part of me thought it was an act. 721 00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:56,600 But I could never be sure and that's why I stayed. 722 00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:00,960 But then I met Josh and... 723 00:37:00,995 --> 00:37:02,960 I knew I had to leave. 724 00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:06,080 For my own sanity. 725 00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:09,645 I just... 726 00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:11,720 never knew how to tell Lucas about us. 727 00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:14,880 You're sure he doesn't already know? 728 00:37:14,915 --> 00:37:16,925 No, there's no way. 729 00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:20,060 We were very careful. We'd never go out in London. 730 00:37:20,095 --> 00:37:23,160 And if we go away for a weekend, we travel separately. 731 00:37:23,195 --> 00:37:25,205 Even now after all this time? 732 00:37:25,240 --> 00:37:28,280 Camilla is still scared about what he might do to himself. 733 00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:34,125 Maybe we're wrong. 734 00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:37,560 If Lucas knew all this time why wait till now to do something? 735 00:37:37,595 --> 00:37:39,697 He can't keep his emotions in check. 736 00:37:39,732 --> 00:37:42,046 What if we're looking at it backwards? 737 00:37:42,081 --> 00:37:44,325 What if it wasn't slow-burning resentment? 738 00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:47,840 What if something happened the night of the murders to trigger it? 739 00:37:47,875 --> 00:37:50,880 He got drunk and hit his head. But why did he get drunk? 740 00:37:50,915 --> 00:37:53,365 He never usually drinks more than two pints. 741 00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:56,560 What was different that night? He got drunk on purpose? 742 00:37:56,595 --> 00:37:59,040 Maybe he just found out something upsetting 743 00:37:59,075 --> 00:38:01,085 and needed to get hammered. 744 00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:04,680 When he drove into a lamp post that could have been deliberate? 745 00:38:04,715 --> 00:38:07,440 You didn't have plans this weekend, did you? 746 00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:12,400 The police took statements from all the guys 747 00:38:12,435 --> 00:38:14,445 at the bar with Lucas and Josh. 748 00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:17,560 And nobody spoke to Lucas about anything more personal 749 00:38:17,595 --> 00:38:20,085 than football and university league tables. 750 00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:23,840 However, they all commented that Lucas started drinking heavily 751 00:38:23,875 --> 00:38:25,885 as soon as he got to the bar. 752 00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:29,480 Josh was adamant that no-one at work knew about him and Camilla. 753 00:38:29,515 --> 00:38:32,005 Then he must have found out earlier. But how? 754 00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:34,965 100 different ways. Maybe Lucas saw them together. 755 00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:38,520 Maybe Josh turned up for work smelling of Camilla's perfume? 756 00:38:38,555 --> 00:38:41,160 Let's stick to things we can prove, shall we? 757 00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:45,480 What did Josh say about the early part of the evening? Not much. 758 00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:50,485 He was coaching a rugby match, 759 00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:53,645 was running late, so he came straight round to Lucas's, 760 00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:56,920 checked a few urgent e-mails, took a shower, drove to the bar. 761 00:38:56,955 --> 00:38:58,965 Checked his e-mails? 762 00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:01,720 What, on his phone? I presume so, but I can check. 763 00:39:01,755 --> 00:39:03,760 Great. You hungry? 764 00:39:03,795 --> 00:39:05,720 I'm starving. 765 00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:11,325 Listen to this. 766 00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:14,900 Josh's phone was low on batteries so he borrowed Lucas's laptop. 767 00:39:14,935 --> 00:39:18,440 I checked with the police tech guys who went over Lucas's computer. 768 00:39:18,475 --> 00:39:21,840 You got hold of them on a Saturday? Technology never sleeps. 769 00:39:21,875 --> 00:39:23,885 They called up Lucas's history 770 00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:27,760 and it showed Josh logged onto his web-based e-mail account at 6:20, 771 00:39:27,795 --> 00:39:30,217 sent a few e-mails, then closed it down. 772 00:39:30,252 --> 00:39:32,605 Ten minutes later, someone went back online 773 00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:36,280 and bought a printer cartridge using Lucas Boyd's credit card details, 774 00:39:36,315 --> 00:39:39,920 then they called up and logged straight into Josh's e-mail account. 775 00:39:39,955 --> 00:39:42,805 So Lucas went looking for incriminating e-mails? 776 00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:46,480 He probably just went to log on, but cos Josh hadn't logged out, 777 00:39:46,515 --> 00:39:50,120 just closed the window... Lucas went straight into his account. 778 00:39:50,155 --> 00:39:52,917 And saw an inbox full of e-mails from Miss Moneypenny. 779 00:39:52,952 --> 00:39:55,680 When he opened one it would be obvious it was Camilla. 780 00:39:55,715 --> 00:39:58,237 So much for discretion. Yeah. 781 00:39:58,272 --> 00:40:00,725 Miss Moneypenny and Scrummy Half, 782 00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:04,440 not to mention all the references to "L" coping since the divorce. 783 00:40:04,475 --> 00:40:06,817 It's not exactly the Enigma Code. 784 00:40:06,852 --> 00:40:09,046 Also Josh never clears his inbox. 785 00:40:09,081 --> 00:40:11,280 So the e-mails go back three years. 786 00:40:11,315 --> 00:40:13,445 Lucas would have realised everything. 787 00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:16,000 Which gives us sexual jealousy and revenge. 788 00:40:16,035 --> 00:40:17,960 We can get him for murder. 789 00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:24,165 Mr Boyd, 790 00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:26,885 it's clear that despite the end of your marriage 791 00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:30,040 you still have very strong feelings about your ex-wife. 792 00:40:30,075 --> 00:40:32,045 Yes, I do. 793 00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:34,245 Even during the divorce proceedings, 794 00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:36,480 you were hoping to salvage the relationship? 795 00:40:36,515 --> 00:40:38,680 I hoped we might be able to work things out. 796 00:40:38,715 --> 00:40:40,725 It must have come as a shock then 797 00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:42,885 to find out that she'd been unfaithful 798 00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:46,560 and was in fact sleeping with a colleague of yours behind your back? 799 00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:52,805 A terrible shock, in fact. 800 00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:56,080 My Lord, this is pure conjecture on the part of Mr Thorne. 801 00:40:56,115 --> 00:40:58,737 These allegations are in no way based on fact. 802 00:40:58,772 --> 00:41:01,360 On the contrary. I wish to enter into evidence 803 00:41:01,395 --> 00:41:03,757 a printout of the e-mail correspondence 804 00:41:03,792 --> 00:41:06,176 between Josh Shelton and Camilla Mallon. 805 00:41:06,211 --> 00:41:08,665 A correspondence which clearly documents 806 00:41:08,700 --> 00:41:11,085 the couple's three-year-long relationship 807 00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:14,840 and which was seen by Mr Boyd on the night he murdered the Lerners. 808 00:41:14,875 --> 00:41:16,717 Was it not, Mr Boyd? I don't... 809 00:41:16,752 --> 00:41:18,525 Did you or did you not access 810 00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:21,880 Josh Shelton's e-mail account on that night? I'm not sure. 811 00:41:21,915 --> 00:41:24,565 After you saw the e-mails you started drinking 812 00:41:24,600 --> 00:41:28,320 to work up courage to confront your so-called friend. I was upset. 813 00:41:28,355 --> 00:41:31,277 So you waited till you had Mr Shelton alone in the car, 814 00:41:31,312 --> 00:41:34,200 and then you attempted to drive him into a lamp post. 815 00:41:34,235 --> 00:41:37,117 After that you went to find your ex-wife. No. 816 00:41:37,152 --> 00:41:39,965 No, it was a mistake. I lost control of the car. 817 00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:43,605 We've heard a great deal about loss of control during this trial. 818 00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:47,240 The defence would have us believe that because of your loss of control 819 00:41:47,275 --> 00:41:49,885 you cannot be held accountable for your actions. 820 00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:53,520 But let's just stop and look at those actions. Shall we? 821 00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:56,645 David and Elaine Lerner... 822 00:41:56,680 --> 00:42:00,080 were asleep in bed when you broke into their home. 823 00:42:00,115 --> 00:42:03,257 You armed yourself with this chisel 824 00:42:03,292 --> 00:42:05,926 and then stabbed them both brutally, 825 00:42:05,961 --> 00:42:08,560 and repeatedly, until they were dead. 826 00:42:08,595 --> 00:42:10,605 Of this there is no doubt. 827 00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:13,280 Your clothes were covered in the victims' DNA 828 00:42:13,315 --> 00:42:15,937 and your thumb print was found in Elaine's blood 829 00:42:15,972 --> 00:42:18,560 on the wall above the bed. But I didn't mean to. 830 00:42:18,595 --> 00:42:20,885 We know you didn't mean to kill the Lerners 831 00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:24,720 because your intended victims were your supposed friend and ex-wife. 832 00:42:24,755 --> 00:42:28,697 The trouble is you had to get drunk in order to go through with it. 833 00:42:28,732 --> 00:42:32,640 And became so intoxicated that you mistakenly broke into your old house 834 00:42:32,675 --> 00:42:34,965 where, consumed with rage and jealousy, 835 00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:37,720 you brutally murdered two innocent strangers! 836 00:42:37,755 --> 00:42:39,765 David and Elaine Lerner! 837 00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:43,400 Believing them to be your ex-wife and her lover. 838 00:42:43,435 --> 00:42:45,405 No. 839 00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:47,400 No, that isn't what happened. 840 00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:50,365 I was upset, yeah. 841 00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:52,360 OK, but I had a right to be. 842 00:42:57,120 --> 00:42:59,160 I'd have done anything for you. 843 00:42:59,195 --> 00:43:01,120 You know that. 844 00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:04,120 And all the time, you were with him. 845 00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:09,360 I had... I had to show you how much you'd hurt me. 846 00:43:09,395 --> 00:43:11,920 When I realised it wasn't you in the bed, 847 00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:14,960 I was so relieved. 848 00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:22,200 I love you so much, Camilla. 849 00:43:22,235 --> 00:43:24,160 If I'd killed you, 850 00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:27,520 I couldn't have lived with myself. 851 00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:33,080 And yet you feel no such guilt about the Lerners? 852 00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:37,520 Would the defendant please stand? 853 00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:42,120 Members of the jury, 854 00:43:43,240 --> 00:43:46,360 have you reached a verdict upon which you are all agreed? 855 00:43:46,395 --> 00:43:48,405 Yes. 856 00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:51,400 On count one, the murder of Elaine Lerner. 857 00:43:52,520 --> 00:43:55,800 Do you find the defendant Mr Boyd guilty... 858 00:43:57,080 --> 00:43:59,120 .. or not guilty? 859 00:43:59,155 --> 00:44:01,080 Guilty. 860 00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:04,165 And on count two, 861 00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:06,245 the murder of David Lerner, 862 00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:10,320 do you find the defendant Mr Boyd guilty or not guilty? 863 00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:13,765 Guilty. 864 00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:15,845 'Talk about passive aggressive. ' 865 00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:18,080 The guy was still controlling his ex-wife 866 00:44:18,115 --> 00:44:19,805 two years after their divorce 867 00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:22,005 and he's allowed to accuse her of mental abuse. 868 00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:25,560 Given how things ended up, aggressive definitely won over passive. 869 00:44:25,595 --> 00:44:28,077 Do you think Lucas knew he'd done it all along? 870 00:44:28,112 --> 00:44:30,560 Maybe he only started remembering during the trial. 871 00:44:30,595 --> 00:44:32,520 That's one hell of a flashback. 872 00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:08,120 itfc subtitles 70146

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