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I find you intimidating. 00:00:23.784 --> 00:00:27.210 - We are working hard in therapy and at home 00:00:27.287 --> 00:00:29.229 to try to communicate better. 00:00:29.306 --> 00:00:30.397 - It's all I can think about-- 00:00:30.474 --> 00:00:33.784 starting a family with you, being a dad. 00:00:33.794 --> 00:00:35.977 - I'm asking Richard to wait, but he's waiting 00:00:36.054 --> 00:00:37.454 for something that I can't give him. 00:00:37.464 --> 00:00:41.291 I think I feel relieved that I'm not having this baby. 00:00:41.301 --> 00:00:43.410 I don't want children. 00:00:43.487 --> 00:00:44.227 [upbeat music] 00:00:44.304 --> 00:00:46.321 [cell phone clatters] 00:00:48.325 --> 00:00:50.417 [Winona Oak's "He Don't Love Me"] 00:00:50.494 --> 00:00:52.327 - There are all kinds of love. 00:00:52.403 --> 00:00:54.805 There's forbidden love. 00:00:54.815 --> 00:00:56.423 First love. 00:00:56.500 --> 00:01:00.644 There's rekindled love, 00:01:00.654 --> 00:01:04.672 which can be amazing or terrible, 00:01:04.749 --> 00:01:06.916 depending on whether you're meant to be together. 00:01:06.994 --> 00:01:08.819 There's complicated love where you're still trying 00:01:08.829 --> 00:01:11.513 to figure each other out. 00:01:11.589 --> 00:01:13.848 And then there's unconditional love, 00:01:13.925 --> 00:01:14.941 which it sounds like you have. 00:01:15.018 --> 00:01:18.019 ♪ ♪ 00:01:18.096 --> 00:01:21.097 - I don't know. 00:01:21.174 --> 00:01:25.118 You didn't see how mad he was. 00:01:25.195 --> 00:01:28.505 Like, the stuff that he said, stuff that I said-- 00:01:28.515 --> 00:01:32.608 [sighs] Can't take that back. 00:01:32.686 --> 00:01:35.036 - People say horrible things all the time. 00:01:35.113 --> 00:01:37.446 And they find a way to move on. 00:01:37.524 --> 00:01:38.781 You said he always comes around, right? 00:01:38.859 --> 00:01:40.375 - I did. 00:01:40.451 --> 00:01:42.853 - He's probably at home waiting for you right now. 00:01:42.863 --> 00:01:44.638 ♪ ♪ 00:01:44.714 --> 00:01:46.139 - I hope you're right. 00:01:46.216 --> 00:01:48.883 ♪ ♪ 00:01:48.960 --> 00:01:50.810 I'm gonna go find out. 00:01:50.887 --> 00:01:53.054 - ♪ No, he don't love me ♪ 00:01:53.131 --> 00:01:55.198 ♪ No, he don't love me, no ♪ 00:01:55.208 --> 00:01:57.225 ♪ ♪ 00:01:57.302 --> 00:02:00.037 ♪ But he don't love me, no ♪ 00:02:00.047 --> 00:02:06.142 ♪ ♪ 00:02:06.219 --> 00:02:07.711 - So any word from Marissa? 00:02:07.721 --> 00:02:09.145 - No. 00:02:09.222 --> 00:02:12.407 She's still pissed I said Eva's name instead of hers. 00:02:12.483 --> 00:02:14.317 God, I feel so bad. - Ugh, I'm so sorry. 00:02:14.394 --> 00:02:17.153 - Yeah, it kind of sucks. 00:02:17.230 --> 00:02:18.371 She was such a freak. We had fun. 00:02:18.448 --> 00:02:20.390 But hey, bright side, I'm about to do 00:02:20.400 --> 00:02:22.559 that photo shoot at The Belle to launch the podcast. 00:02:22.569 --> 00:02:25.011 - Really? That's awesome. 00:02:25.088 --> 00:02:26.588 - Yeah. - Hey, I actually have to go. 00:02:26.664 --> 00:02:30.499 I'm meeting Scott and his friend, 00:02:30.577 --> 00:02:31.593 but promise me that you'll let me know 00:02:31.669 --> 00:02:32.927 when you talk to Sutton. 00:02:33.004 --> 00:02:34.762 She had that talk with Richard last night. 00:02:34.839 --> 00:02:37.023 - Oh, yeah. 00:02:37.100 --> 00:02:38.858 - I'm kind of getting worried. - Me too. 00:02:38.935 --> 00:02:40.310 I promise. Love you. 00:02:45.258 --> 00:02:48.109 [soft dramatic music] 00:02:48.186 --> 00:02:53.924 ♪ ♪ 00:02:53.934 --> 00:02:56.359 - Hey, Kat. - Hi. 00:02:56.436 --> 00:02:58.361 - Hi. 00:02:58.438 --> 00:03:00.696 Why is Eva here? 00:03:00.774 --> 00:03:02.531 - Oh, we thought it'd be a great press opportunity, 00:03:02.609 --> 00:03:03.458 you know, since Eva's your first guest 00:03:03.534 --> 00:03:05.719 and a huge media presence already. 00:03:05.795 --> 00:03:07.220 Is that a problem? 00:03:07.297 --> 00:03:09.222 - No, mm-mm. 00:03:09.299 --> 00:03:10.724 Eva can go first. I'll go after. 00:03:10.800 --> 00:03:15.211 - Actually, I was thinking we could photograph you together. 00:03:15.288 --> 00:03:19.282 - Together? Yeah, I don't know. 00:03:19.292 --> 00:03:21.384 We do have very different viewpoints. 00:03:21.461 --> 00:03:23.903 - Exactly, two women on opposite sides 00:03:23.980 --> 00:03:25.455 face off on the first ever Belle podcast. 00:03:25.465 --> 00:03:28.057 I think it'll really sell that "Across the Bar" part. 00:03:28.135 --> 00:03:30.744 [Tove Lo's "Bikini Porn"] 00:03:30.820 --> 00:03:32.987 ♪ ♪ 00:03:33.064 --> 00:03:35.132 - ♪ Uh, uh ♪ 00:03:35.142 --> 00:03:35.915 - A little closer please. 00:03:35.992 --> 00:03:38.493 ♪ ♪ 00:03:38.569 --> 00:03:39.994 - ♪ Uh, uh, I'm on bikini porn ♪ 00:03:40.071 --> 00:03:41.755 - You must be excited... 00:03:41.831 --> 00:03:44.474 - Can we get a couple of the two of you facing each other? 00:03:44.484 --> 00:03:46.593 - ♪ Oh, I got those marks on my body ♪ 00:03:46.670 --> 00:03:48.503 - About the podcast. 00:03:48.579 --> 00:03:51.148 This is what you wanted, right? 00:03:51.158 --> 00:03:52.581 - ♪ Like you're all out of luck ♪ 00:03:52.659 --> 00:03:53.933 - Are you trying to throw me off? 00:03:54.010 --> 00:03:55.343 - ♪ Oh, you got those sad eyes for money ♪ 00:03:55.420 --> 00:03:56.678 - I'm sorry? 00:03:56.754 --> 00:03:59.990 - On the podcast when you said you were gay. 00:04:00.000 --> 00:04:03.518 - Oh, I am gay, Kat. - Right. 00:04:03.594 --> 00:04:04.995 You just never mentioned it to me before. 00:04:05.005 --> 00:04:07.497 - ♪ Skinny dipping in the pool with me ♪ 00:04:07.507 --> 00:04:10.433 - Eva, there's a piece of hair in front of your face. 00:04:10.510 --> 00:04:11.359 If you can just move to the side please. 00:04:11.436 --> 00:04:12.935 The other side. 00:04:13.013 --> 00:04:14.770 ♪ ♪ 00:04:14.848 --> 00:04:17.123 - It's--just let me get it. 00:04:17.200 --> 00:04:19.701 - ♪ I'm on bikini porn, uh, uh ♪ 00:04:19.777 --> 00:04:21.344 ♪ Now my bikini's gone ♪ 00:04:21.354 --> 00:04:23.204 ♪ Oh, I got you dangled around me ♪ 00:04:23.281 --> 00:04:24.539 - I'm a private person, Kat, 00:04:24.615 --> 00:04:25.373 but that doesn't mean I'm hiding my sexuality. 00:04:25.450 --> 00:04:28.209 - Absolutely--I'm not judging. 00:04:28.286 --> 00:04:29.519 You should do whatever feels right for you. 00:04:29.529 --> 00:04:32.288 - Thank you. 00:04:32.365 --> 00:04:33.548 - Just a little confused, that's all-- 00:04:33.624 --> 00:04:36.309 why you chose the podcast to say something. 00:04:36.386 --> 00:04:41.198 - I bring up my sexuality when it makes sense to me, 00:04:41.208 --> 00:04:43.299 and I chose to bring it up on your podcast 00:04:43.376 --> 00:04:45.869 because it felt relevant. - Huh. 00:04:45.879 --> 00:04:47.654 Didn't feel relevant at the Republican mixer? 00:04:47.731 --> 00:04:51.374 - ♪ All day, one day, today ♪ 00:04:51.384 --> 00:04:52.709 - Are we done here? 00:04:52.719 --> 00:04:53.993 [soft dramatic music] 00:04:54.070 --> 00:04:55.662 - Yeah, I think we got what we need. 00:04:55.739 --> 00:04:56.830 - Okay, great. 00:04:56.906 --> 00:05:03.503 ♪ ♪ 00:05:03.580 --> 00:05:04.746 - Sutton, hey, it's me. 00:05:04.822 --> 00:05:06.389 Um... 00:05:06.399 --> 00:05:09.658 I'm really worried, boo. Where you at? 00:05:09.736 --> 00:05:11.394 Call me. I love you. 00:05:11.404 --> 00:05:14.064 ♪ ♪ 00:05:14.074 --> 00:05:16.165 - There you are. 00:05:16.243 --> 00:05:16.733 I wanted to show you the mock-up. 00:05:16.743 --> 00:05:17.425 - Oh. 00:05:20.247 --> 00:05:21.238 Wow. - Pretty cool, huh? 00:05:21.248 --> 00:05:22.689 - Yeah. 00:05:22.766 --> 00:05:24.574 - We'll use this to tease the podcast, 00:05:24.584 --> 00:05:25.742 then reach out to media outlets 00:05:25.752 --> 00:05:26.842 to preview the episode. 00:05:26.920 --> 00:05:29.678 I think this is gonna be really big, Kat. 00:05:29.756 --> 00:05:30.864 You wanted to make a difference, and now you are. 00:05:30.940 --> 00:05:33.274 - Hey, thank you for the opportunity. 00:05:33.351 --> 00:05:35.017 - Don't thank me. Thank Eva. 00:05:35.095 --> 00:05:37.019 She was the perfect first guest. 00:05:37.097 --> 00:05:39.539 [Chloe Lilac's "High School"] 00:05:39.616 --> 00:05:42.950 ♪ ♪ 00:05:43.027 --> 00:05:44.285 - ♪ Chain-smoking your cigarettes ♪ 00:05:44.362 --> 00:05:46.045 - What was so important 00:05:46.122 --> 00:05:47.288 that you couldn't tell me over the phone? 00:05:47.365 --> 00:05:51.434 - Oh, I just wanted to say thank you. 00:05:51.444 --> 00:05:54.437 You helped me get this podcast, and, um, 00:05:54.447 --> 00:05:58.725 to answer your question, I am really excited about it. 00:05:58.802 --> 00:06:00.968 And you didn't have to do that, but you did, 00:06:01.045 --> 00:06:03.396 so I just wanted to let you know that I appreciate it. 00:06:03.473 --> 00:06:06.140 - ♪ Fugazi gold chain necklace ♪ 00:06:06.217 --> 00:06:08.735 - Well, you're welcome. 00:06:08.812 --> 00:06:10.553 - Yeah, and, I mean, like, 00:06:10.630 --> 00:06:13.573 did we have completely different views on almost everything? 00:06:13.650 --> 00:06:16.910 Yes, but, 00:06:16.986 --> 00:06:19.562 I think it's okay, you know? 00:06:19.639 --> 00:06:23.416 Like, this podcast is bigger than you or me, 00:06:23.493 --> 00:06:24.158 and I'm not gonna let my feelings for you 00:06:24.235 --> 00:06:25.969 get in the way of that. 00:06:25.979 --> 00:06:27.304 - Your feelings for me? 00:06:27.314 --> 00:06:28.305 ♪ ♪ 00:06:28.315 --> 00:06:32.333 - Um...yeah. 00:06:32.410 --> 00:06:34.928 Like, you know, the frustrations that I have 00:06:35.004 --> 00:06:36.479 dealing with, like, differences. 00:06:36.489 --> 00:06:39.674 - Mm-hmm. - I mean, like, viewpoints. 00:06:39.750 --> 00:06:42.652 - Right. 00:06:42.662 --> 00:06:43.344 Well, you didn't have to come all the way here 00:06:43.421 --> 00:06:44.920 just to tell me that. 00:06:44.998 --> 00:06:48.441 - Oh, no, it was on the way, so I just thought I'd swing by. 00:06:48.518 --> 00:06:51.995 ♪ ♪ 00:06:52.005 --> 00:06:54.280 - I'm glad that you're happy with your podcast. 00:06:54.357 --> 00:06:56.616 - Yeah, yeah, I am. 00:06:56.693 --> 00:07:00.027 I am. 00:07:00.104 --> 00:07:02.605 Hey, also, 00:07:02.682 --> 00:07:07.869 you could really do a lot for the queer community, you know? 00:07:07.945 --> 00:07:09.203 - Are we really going back to this? 00:07:09.280 --> 00:07:10.538 - No, no, no, I just mean, like, 00:07:10.615 --> 00:07:12.615 you could use your platform to normalize queerness 00:07:12.692 --> 00:07:16.353 in spaces where it's usually not accepted, you know, help people. 00:07:16.363 --> 00:07:17.453 - I help people a lot, Kat. 00:07:17.530 --> 00:07:19.806 - Well, okay. 00:07:19.883 --> 00:07:21.474 - I just helped you, remember? 00:07:21.551 --> 00:07:23.693 That's why you're here-- to say thank you-- 00:07:23.703 --> 00:07:26.980 unless you actually came over here just to yell at me-- 00:07:27.056 --> 00:07:28.031 - ♪ Just waiting till sunrise ♪ 00:07:28.041 --> 00:07:29.649 - Ah. 00:07:29.726 --> 00:07:31.484 - ♪ Yeah, I could die tonight ♪ 00:07:31.561 --> 00:07:32.485 ♪ The feelings you offer ♪ 00:07:32.562 --> 00:07:33.802 - This makes no sense. 00:07:33.880 --> 00:07:35.730 - ♪ Yeah, I could die tonight ♪ 00:07:35.806 --> 00:07:38.307 - It really doesn't, but also-- 00:07:38.385 --> 00:07:39.709 - Yeah. 00:07:39.719 --> 00:07:43.979 ♪ Sometimes, sometimes, I think I'm uncool ♪ 00:07:44.057 --> 00:07:47.483 [phone rings] 00:07:47.560 --> 00:07:49.335 ♪ Then I remember this isn't high school ♪ 00:07:52.823 --> 00:07:55.416 [upbeat pop music] 00:07:55.493 --> 00:07:56.825 ♪ ♪ 00:07:56.903 --> 00:07:58.419 - I'm about to do that photoshoot at The Belle 00:07:58.496 --> 00:08:00.254 to launch the podcast. 00:08:00.331 --> 00:08:01.514 - Really? That's awesome. 00:08:01.591 --> 00:08:03.165 - Yeah. 00:08:03.243 --> 00:08:05.351 - Hey, I actually have to go. 00:08:05.428 --> 00:08:08.504 I'm meeting Scott and his friend 00:08:08.581 --> 00:08:11.408 about a potential story, but promise me 00:08:11.418 --> 00:08:13.526 that you'll let me know when you talk to Sutton. 00:08:13.603 --> 00:08:15.436 I'm kind of getting worried. - Me too. 00:08:15.513 --> 00:08:18.248 I promise. - Okay, all right. 00:08:18.258 --> 00:08:19.582 ♪ ♪ 00:08:19.592 --> 00:08:20.650 [clears throat] 00:08:22.353 --> 00:08:24.704 Scott, hi. - Hi. 00:08:24.781 --> 00:08:27.757 You must be Kim, Scott's... 00:08:27.767 --> 00:08:29.876 - Childhood friend. - Right. 00:08:29.953 --> 00:08:31.761 - Thank you for meeting me. 00:08:31.771 --> 00:08:33.788 - Yeah, how can I help? 00:08:33.864 --> 00:08:35.882 - I got fired from my job as an associate 00:08:35.959 --> 00:08:38.051 at Bumani Investments. 00:08:38.127 --> 00:08:40.035 - It was her dream job-- investment banking. 00:08:40.113 --> 00:08:41.537 - [sighs] I'm so sorry. 00:08:41.614 --> 00:08:43.106 - I was doing really well, 00:08:43.116 --> 00:08:45.040 but the day after a company party, 00:08:45.118 --> 00:08:46.968 everything changed. 00:08:47.044 --> 00:08:49.378 HR said it was because we came in hung over, 00:08:49.456 --> 00:08:51.380 but everyone was hung over. 00:08:51.458 --> 00:08:53.616 It just--it doesn't make sense. 00:08:53.626 --> 00:08:56.453 - You said "we." Were other people fired? 00:08:56.463 --> 00:08:58.980 - Yes, me and two other associates, 00:08:59.056 --> 00:09:00.481 Chloe and Alexa. 00:09:00.558 --> 00:09:02.742 - Were all of the associates fired? 00:09:02.819 --> 00:09:04.627 - No--Mike and Chase are still there. 00:09:04.637 --> 00:09:07.464 [soft dramatic music] 00:09:07.474 --> 00:09:09.966 - So it was just the women. - Exactly. 00:09:09.976 --> 00:09:12.085 - [sighs] Wow. 00:09:12.161 --> 00:09:14.069 And these other women, 00:09:14.147 --> 00:09:16.089 were they also good at their jobs? 00:09:16.165 --> 00:09:19.074 - Ivy League, crazy smart, liked by everyone. 00:09:19.152 --> 00:09:21.502 - So it's just blatant sexism? 00:09:21.579 --> 00:09:23.429 ♪ ♪ 00:09:23.506 --> 00:09:25.080 - Think you can help? - Yeah, I could try. 00:09:25.158 --> 00:09:27.675 ♪ ♪ 00:09:27.752 --> 00:09:30.919 So all three positions were filled by men? 00:09:30.997 --> 00:09:32.221 No, thank you. That's helpful. 00:09:35.092 --> 00:09:37.160 Let me ask you, though. 00:09:37.170 --> 00:09:39.854 Were any women considered for those positions? 00:09:41.508 --> 00:09:44.099 What do you mean, "why is that relevant"? 00:09:44.177 --> 00:09:45.276 Are you serious? Hello? 00:09:47.514 --> 00:09:49.672 [sighs] 00:09:49.682 --> 00:09:53.108 - So that's a no? - This is crazy. 00:09:53.186 --> 00:09:55.178 Not being able to do what you love 00:09:55.188 --> 00:09:57.797 because you're a woman, I just--I can't even imagine. 00:09:57.874 --> 00:10:01.617 - Maybe you should talk to Sutton's husband. 00:10:01.694 --> 00:10:04.020 You said he's a lawyer, right? - Yeah, he is. 00:10:04.030 --> 00:10:05.972 I haven't really been able to get ahold of her. 00:10:06.049 --> 00:10:08.957 They're going through a rough time right now. 00:10:09.035 --> 00:10:10.051 - Hm, sorry to hear that. - Yeah. 00:10:12.296 --> 00:10:13.295 You wanna talk about it? 00:10:13.373 --> 00:10:14.221 - There's nothing to really talk about 00:10:14.298 --> 00:10:16.149 until she gets back to me, so... 00:10:18.378 --> 00:10:19.702 You know what would help though? 00:10:19.712 --> 00:10:21.562 - Hm? 00:10:21.639 --> 00:10:25.399 - Proving that Kim works for sexist pigs 00:10:25.476 --> 00:10:27.660 and then exposing them in "Scarlet." 00:10:27.737 --> 00:10:28.995 - [chuckles] 00:10:29.072 --> 00:10:31.998 [punchy music] 00:10:32.075 --> 00:10:34.667 - Are you just gonna sit there or are you coming with me? 00:10:34.744 --> 00:10:41.749 ♪ ♪ 00:10:41.826 --> 00:10:44.343 - So what's the plan? - Just follow my lead. 00:10:44.420 --> 00:10:51.092 ♪ ♪ 00:10:52.595 --> 00:10:55.238 [indistinct chatter] 00:10:55.248 --> 00:10:57.740 Okay, I'm confused. 00:10:57.750 --> 00:10:59.266 Kim said that all of the women were fired, 00:10:59.343 --> 00:11:02.579 but why are there so many still working here? 00:11:02.589 --> 00:11:05.081 - Maybe she just meant the associates. 00:11:05.091 --> 00:11:05.856 - Let's see if that Mike guy knows anything. 00:11:07.518 --> 00:11:08.943 Excuse me. 00:11:09.019 --> 00:11:12.279 We're here to see Mike Johnson. - Right upstairs. 00:11:12.356 --> 00:11:13.280 - Okay, thanks. 00:11:16.769 --> 00:11:18.261 - Mike? - Yeah. 00:11:18.271 --> 00:11:21.214 - Hi, do you have a second? - Until my boss yells my name. 00:11:21.290 --> 00:11:23.266 - I'm Jane Sloan. 00:11:23.276 --> 00:11:26.460 This is my...employee. 00:11:26.537 --> 00:11:27.795 - Scott Coleman. 00:11:27.872 --> 00:11:29.797 - We're from "Scarlet" magazine. 00:11:29.874 --> 00:11:31.799 We just had a few questions about Kim Baker. 00:11:31.876 --> 00:11:33.726 - Yeah, of course. You looking to hire her? 00:11:33.803 --> 00:11:36.137 - Maybe, depends. - Well, you should. 00:11:36.213 --> 00:11:39.449 Kim is awesome--hard worker, really talented, 00:11:39.459 --> 00:11:41.567 and everyone misses having her around. 00:11:41.644 --> 00:11:44.311 - We heard she was fired. - That wasn't her fault. 00:11:44.388 --> 00:11:48.291 - Well, was there an incident at an office party? 00:11:48.301 --> 00:11:50.293 We heard she was fired the next day. 00:11:50.303 --> 00:11:54.080 - There was a party-- a lot of drinking, dancing, 00:11:54.157 --> 00:11:55.915 and Kim's a really good dancer. 00:11:55.992 --> 00:11:58.993 - So she was fired for being a good dancer? 00:11:59.069 --> 00:12:00.736 - No, it's just when Kim dances, 00:12:00.813 --> 00:12:02.922 you know, people pay attention, like... 00:12:02.999 --> 00:12:04.757 You understand that. 00:12:04.834 --> 00:12:07.760 - Actually, I don't. [chuckles] 00:12:07.837 --> 00:12:11.147 Was she dancing provocatively or-- 00:12:11.157 --> 00:12:13.007 - No, it's just-- she was just having fun. 00:12:13.083 --> 00:12:15.584 Just... 00:12:15.662 --> 00:12:19.155 Look, a couple analysts were pretty lit that night-- 00:12:19.165 --> 00:12:20.990 maybe a little bit too enamored by 00:12:21.000 --> 00:12:22.683 three young, attractive women dancing together. 00:12:22.760 --> 00:12:26.496 I think management saw that and decided it was a liability-- 00:12:26.506 --> 00:12:28.498 especially post-Me Too. 00:12:28.508 --> 00:12:29.356 - Wow. [chuckles] 00:12:29.433 --> 00:12:32.669 So Kim was fired 00:12:32.679 --> 00:12:36.271 to protect the men from doing something stupid? 00:12:36.349 --> 00:12:38.624 - And what about these women here? 00:12:38.701 --> 00:12:41.294 - Married, most with children. 00:12:41.370 --> 00:12:43.179 They go home the first chance they get. 00:12:43.189 --> 00:12:45.631 - [sighs] 00:12:45.708 --> 00:12:47.466 How about we start like this? 00:12:47.543 --> 00:12:49.519 "In the post-Me Too era, too many men 00:12:49.529 --> 00:12:51.453 "don't trust themselves around women, 00:12:51.531 --> 00:12:54.023 especially ones that are attractive." 00:12:54.033 --> 00:12:56.884 - "And so, in male-dominated industries, 00:12:56.961 --> 00:13:00.128 "we are seeing a trend of young women being eliminated 00:13:00.206 --> 00:13:05.059 from the hiring process, starting with Kim Baker." 00:13:05.135 --> 00:13:06.227 [exhales sharply] 00:13:06.303 --> 00:13:08.637 [sighs] 00:13:08.715 --> 00:13:10.323 - I think this piece is gonna be really big, 00:13:10.399 --> 00:13:11.974 and then Kim and all those other women 00:13:12.051 --> 00:13:14.476 who have been squeezed out of doing what they love 00:13:14.554 --> 00:13:17.238 will finally get the recognition they deserve, 00:13:17.314 --> 00:13:18.497 which is why we're doing this. - Mm-hmm. 00:13:18.574 --> 00:13:21.149 - [chuckles] 00:13:21.227 --> 00:13:22.501 Okay, should we order some dinner? 00:13:22.578 --> 00:13:24.078 - Yes. 00:13:26.749 --> 00:13:27.957 You really love it, don't you? 00:13:29.919 --> 00:13:33.161 The story chase, helping people. 00:13:33.239 --> 00:13:34.421 - Yeah, I do. 00:13:37.577 --> 00:13:42.763 I guess you can say that writing is my first love. 00:13:42.840 --> 00:13:44.907 - Same. 00:13:44.917 --> 00:13:46.075 - [chuckles] 00:13:46.085 --> 00:13:47.243 [soft dramatic music] 00:13:47.253 --> 00:13:50.363 - When did you know that you loved to write? 00:13:50.439 --> 00:13:52.347 ♪ ♪ 00:13:52.425 --> 00:13:55.418 - I was probably, like, eight. 00:13:55.428 --> 00:13:58.704 My dad gave me a diary, 00:13:58.781 --> 00:14:02.357 and I filled all of the pages within a week. 00:14:02.435 --> 00:14:06.194 It was kind of like having a best friend or something? 00:14:06.272 --> 00:14:07.696 I don't know. That's stupid. 00:14:07.774 --> 00:14:08.789 [laughter] 00:14:08.866 --> 00:14:10.124 - No, it's amazing. - What about you? 00:14:10.200 --> 00:14:14.202 When did you know? - I think around the same time. 00:14:14.280 --> 00:14:15.938 My mom used to read to me at night, 00:14:15.948 --> 00:14:19.967 and I ended up changing the story 00:14:20.044 --> 00:14:24.113 and taking the characters in different directions. 00:14:24.123 --> 00:14:27.116 Eventually we started writing stories together. 00:14:27.126 --> 00:14:29.718 - Do you still write fiction? 00:14:29.796 --> 00:14:32.238 - Sometimes. Just as a hobby. 00:14:32.315 --> 00:14:35.574 - I'd love to read it sometime. 00:14:35.651 --> 00:14:38.961 - I am kind of a nerd when it comes to fiction-- 00:14:38.971 --> 00:14:40.413 very "Lord of the Rings," fantasy. 00:14:40.489 --> 00:14:43.732 - "Lord of the Rings" is great. 00:14:43.810 --> 00:14:46.160 - Nice. [laughter] 00:14:46.236 --> 00:14:47.828 - And, hey, it's what you love, right? 00:14:47.905 --> 00:14:49.079 - Definitely. 00:14:52.819 --> 00:14:55.645 And I love the story we're writing. 00:14:55.655 --> 00:14:56.837 - Same. 00:14:56.914 --> 00:15:00.248 - I still can't believe that there are men 00:15:00.326 --> 00:15:02.509 who won't hire talented women 00:15:02.586 --> 00:15:05.012 just because they're attracted to them. 00:15:05.089 --> 00:15:06.680 - Well... 00:15:06.757 --> 00:15:10.092 ♪ ♪ 00:15:10.169 --> 00:15:12.353 - "Well" what? [chuckles] 00:15:12.429 --> 00:15:14.188 - Nothing, it's just... 00:15:14.264 --> 00:15:17.283 ♪ ♪ 00:15:17.360 --> 00:15:20.119 I am not saying that it's right at all, 00:15:20.196 --> 00:15:22.839 but... 00:15:22.849 --> 00:15:28.177 working with someone you're attracted to is difficult. 00:15:28.187 --> 00:15:30.371 [phone vibrating] - Are--are you saying... 00:15:31.782 --> 00:15:33.415 - Yes. 00:15:40.700 --> 00:15:43.476 [punchy music] 00:15:43.552 --> 00:15:46.529 ♪ ♪ 00:15:46.539 --> 00:15:48.555 - Ian. 00:15:48.632 --> 00:15:49.699 Just one more minute, 00:15:49.709 --> 00:15:50.649 and then we can shoot up FDR Drive. 00:15:50.726 --> 00:15:53.394 - I think First is gonna be faster. 00:15:53.470 --> 00:15:54.803 - Uh, I just need to talk to Oliver. 00:15:54.881 --> 00:15:57.564 - Oh, oh, and with me. Sorry, Ian. 00:15:57.641 --> 00:15:58.824 - That's okay. I'll just wait here. 00:15:58.901 --> 00:16:00.809 - Okay. [phones ringing] 00:16:00.887 --> 00:16:04.646 ♪ ♪ 00:16:04.724 --> 00:16:06.665 - We're about to miss our court time, 00:16:06.742 --> 00:16:08.050 which is something our therapist feels-- 00:16:08.060 --> 00:16:10.169 - Thinks is important-- 00:16:10.246 --> 00:16:12.413 for us to do a hobby that we can share together. 00:16:12.489 --> 00:16:12.821 - Yeah, I'm just-- I'll get out of your hair. 00:16:12.899 --> 00:16:14.840 - Right. 00:16:14.917 --> 00:16:15.892 - Let's go play some tennis together. 00:16:15.902 --> 00:16:17.393 - Great. 00:16:17.403 --> 00:16:19.395 - Hey, so, 00:16:19.405 --> 00:16:24.591 I'm going to be singing in a dress and a wig. 00:16:24.668 --> 00:16:26.352 - I know what drag is, Andrew. 00:16:26.429 --> 00:16:27.520 - Oh. - We're looking forward to it. 00:16:27.596 --> 00:16:29.504 - Oh, right, great. 00:16:29.582 --> 00:16:30.264 I'm glad that you and Alicia can make it. 00:16:30.340 --> 00:16:32.909 - So 7:00. - Andrew! 00:16:32.919 --> 00:16:35.694 - 6:30 just to be safe. Yes, Jacqueline? 00:16:35.771 --> 00:16:37.438 - Just make sure that you hold all my calls 00:16:37.514 --> 00:16:39.749 unless it's an emergency. - Okay. 00:16:39.759 --> 00:16:41.867 Define emergency, maybe? - Andrew. 00:16:41.944 --> 00:16:42.868 - Yeah, holding all your calls. No worries. 00:16:42.903 --> 00:16:43.944 - All right. You ready? 00:16:44.021 --> 00:16:46.372 - Are you seriously asking me that? 00:16:46.449 --> 00:16:49.283 Come on. 00:16:49.359 --> 00:16:50.876 - I'm just gonna leave this out 00:16:50.953 --> 00:16:52.119 in case the kids' school calls. - Okay. 00:16:52.196 --> 00:16:54.863 This is gonna be fun. 00:16:54.941 --> 00:16:56.265 - How long has it been 00:16:56.275 --> 00:16:57.532 since we've played together, ten years? 00:16:57.610 --> 00:16:58.717 - Well, I play every week, but, you and me, 00:16:58.794 --> 00:17:00.294 yeah, probably ten years. 00:17:00.370 --> 00:17:02.605 - [sighs] I hope it comes back. 00:17:02.615 --> 00:17:05.966 - It will--just as long as we work at it together. 00:17:06.043 --> 00:17:07.968 - Mm, okay. 00:17:08.045 --> 00:17:11.305 ♪ ♪ 00:17:11.381 --> 00:17:14.900 - Just remember, up, over, and through the ball. 00:17:14.977 --> 00:17:16.143 - Got it, got it, yep. 00:17:17.646 --> 00:17:19.480 Ah, shoot. 00:17:19.556 --> 00:17:20.739 - Let me just take a quick look at that grip. 00:17:20.816 --> 00:17:22.390 - Honey, I think my grip's fine. 00:17:22.468 --> 00:17:24.460 - Well, yeah. 00:17:24.470 --> 00:17:27.746 It could be just a hair to the left. 00:17:27.823 --> 00:17:29.799 Le continental grip. 00:17:29.809 --> 00:17:31.566 That's it. Go. 00:17:31.644 --> 00:17:32.993 - I'll try this, but this is awkward already. 00:17:33.070 --> 00:17:34.303 - It'll be great. 00:17:34.313 --> 00:17:36.238 - Yeah, it's already feeling weird. 00:17:36.315 --> 00:17:39.475 I'll try it, but it feels weird already. 00:17:39.485 --> 00:17:41.310 Okay, you know what? This isn't gonna work. 00:17:41.320 --> 00:17:42.979 I think we just go back to my way of doing it, 00:17:42.989 --> 00:17:44.171 and just hit the ball. 00:17:47.510 --> 00:17:49.435 That's good. Just continue hitting. 00:17:49.512 --> 00:17:51.270 - That's it. - Yeah, I went back to my grip. 00:17:55.425 --> 00:17:57.276 Oh, shoot. 00:17:57.353 --> 00:17:59.111 You're just doing it too fast now, Ian. 00:17:59.188 --> 00:18:01.831 [soft dramatic music] 00:18:01.841 --> 00:18:05.433 ♪ ♪ 00:18:05.511 --> 00:18:08.270 I just met the nicest woman at reception, 00:18:08.347 --> 00:18:09.530 and she gave me some really great pointers. 00:18:09.606 --> 00:18:11.773 ♪ ♪ 00:18:11.851 --> 00:18:13.942 - Really? Okay, what did she say? 00:18:14.020 --> 00:18:17.013 - She just reminded me to follow through with my swing, 00:18:17.023 --> 00:18:18.180 you know, and make sure that my shoulders 00:18:18.190 --> 00:18:21.800 are following my hips, so that was great. 00:18:21.877 --> 00:18:24.619 [sighs] 00:18:24.697 --> 00:18:26.138 What? 00:18:26.215 --> 00:18:28.715 - I--I don't know why 00:18:28.792 --> 00:18:30.458 you listen to some random stranger over me. 00:18:30.536 --> 00:18:33.029 - Are you serious? 00:18:33.039 --> 00:18:36.365 [laughs] Okay. 00:18:36.375 --> 00:18:37.867 I don't know why it's a big deal. 00:18:37.877 --> 00:18:42.729 - It's a big deal because you never want me to be right. 00:18:42.806 --> 00:18:44.657 - The therapist said we are not supposed 00:18:44.692 --> 00:18:46.141 to use the word "never." 00:18:46.218 --> 00:18:48.235 - [chuckles] I'm sorry. 00:18:48.312 --> 00:18:50.478 I feel like you always-- 00:18:50.556 --> 00:18:54.050 - "Always" is another word we're not supposed to use. 00:18:54.060 --> 00:18:55.051 - I'm a good tennis player, Jacqueline. 00:18:55.061 --> 00:18:56.994 - I never said that you weren't. 00:18:58.747 --> 00:19:00.080 [sighs] 00:19:03.069 --> 00:19:06.845 I feel like... 00:19:06.922 --> 00:19:09.664 you're being really oversensitive. 00:19:09.742 --> 00:19:11.183 - I don't think so. 00:19:11.260 --> 00:19:12.351 We took the FDR Drive to get here 00:19:12.428 --> 00:19:13.760 because you said it was faster. 00:19:13.837 --> 00:19:15.503 It wasn't, but you had to be right. 00:19:15.581 --> 00:19:19.525 It feels as if you don't like it when I'm right. 00:19:19.602 --> 00:19:21.268 - Okay. [scoffs] This is ridiculous. 00:19:21.345 --> 00:19:23.011 - That's undermining, 00:19:23.089 --> 00:19:23.746 and you're not supposed to do that either. 00:19:23.756 --> 00:19:26.082 - Ugh. 00:19:26.092 --> 00:19:28.775 Why is this so hard? 00:19:28.852 --> 00:19:30.753 [sighs] 00:19:30.763 --> 00:19:33.280 - 'Cause we've been married for a very long time 00:19:33.357 --> 00:19:35.449 and we've gotten into some bad habits. 00:19:35.525 --> 00:19:36.158 - Yeah, well, you're right about that. 00:19:38.954 --> 00:19:41.529 I said you're right. 00:19:41.607 --> 00:19:42.715 - Could I explain what I was trying to say earlier please? 00:19:44.276 --> 00:19:47.628 - [sighs] Yes. 00:19:47.704 --> 00:19:50.439 - You told me that you didn't feel seen by me, 00:19:50.449 --> 00:19:51.890 so I've been doing my best to change that. 00:19:51.967 --> 00:19:54.276 Sometimes I don't feel-- 00:19:54.286 --> 00:19:56.395 [phone ringing] 00:19:56.472 --> 00:19:57.896 - [sighs] It's not the kids. 00:19:57.973 --> 00:19:59.547 Go ahead. 00:19:59.625 --> 00:20:00.548 "Sometimes you don't feel" what? 00:20:00.626 --> 00:20:04.645 - Sometimes I don't feel heard by you. 00:20:04.721 --> 00:20:06.455 Maybe we could spend a little time 00:20:06.465 --> 00:20:08.723 trying to focus on that. 00:20:08.801 --> 00:20:11.076 - Okay. [phone ringing] 00:20:11.153 --> 00:20:12.578 Let me just put it on vibrate 00:20:12.655 --> 00:20:15.464 so that we don't have to keep getting interrupted, okay? 00:20:15.474 --> 00:20:20.327 Oh, it's Richard, and he's called several times, 00:20:20.404 --> 00:20:22.737 and now he's texting that he needs-- 00:20:22.815 --> 00:20:24.239 let me just call him really quickly, 00:20:24.316 --> 00:20:26.574 and it'll just take a second 00:20:26.652 --> 00:20:27.426 just so I can find out if he's all right. 00:20:29.655 --> 00:20:31.981 Hi. 00:20:31.991 --> 00:20:33.983 Well, I'm here right now with Ian, so-- 00:20:33.993 --> 00:20:35.601 all right. 00:20:35.678 --> 00:20:37.419 [sighs] All right. 00:20:37.496 --> 00:20:40.439 No, no, no, no, no, I'll come. 00:20:40.516 --> 00:20:43.776 Bye-bye. 00:20:43.852 --> 00:20:47.279 Ian, I am so sorry, but Richard-- 00:20:47.356 --> 00:20:52.025 he really needs me right now, and I-- 00:20:52.102 --> 00:20:53.836 can we just--can we finish this at home please? 00:20:53.846 --> 00:20:56.455 - Okay, yeah. I'll see you at home. 00:20:56.532 --> 00:20:58.457 ♪ ♪ 00:20:58.534 --> 00:21:00.442 - Thank you. 00:21:00.519 --> 00:21:02.452 ♪ ♪ 00:21:05.691 --> 00:21:06.849 [The Aces' "Daydream"] 00:21:06.859 --> 00:21:08.116 - ♪ Daydream about me and I know ♪ 00:21:08.194 --> 00:21:09.710 ♪ That you hate the nights without me ♪ 00:21:09.786 --> 00:21:11.712 ♪ Baby, I hate 'em too ♪ 00:21:11.788 --> 00:21:13.955 - I still can't believe you agreed to spend 00:21:14.033 --> 00:21:15.290 your first night off in two weeks 00:21:15.367 --> 00:21:17.551 watching Andrew performing drag. 00:21:17.627 --> 00:21:20.196 - Well, I like Andrew, but also I like the idea 00:21:20.206 --> 00:21:22.481 of you at an amateur night better. 00:21:22.558 --> 00:21:24.533 - You know that I'm not going up there, right? 00:21:24.543 --> 00:21:25.726 - Yeah, we'll see. The night's still young. 00:21:25.802 --> 00:21:28.537 ♪ ♪ 00:21:28.547 --> 00:21:31.139 Andrew, you are killing it. 00:21:31.217 --> 00:21:34.401 - Dr. Alicia Golden, hello. 00:21:34.478 --> 00:21:36.403 - You don't have to call me that. 00:21:36.480 --> 00:21:37.663 - I will because you are way cooler than he is. 00:21:37.740 --> 00:21:39.331 - [laughs] 00:21:39.408 --> 00:21:42.242 - Well, for once, I agree. Drinks? 00:21:42.319 --> 00:21:44.819 - I'd love to, but I still have to do some last touches. 00:21:44.897 --> 00:21:46.055 Apparently, this isn't perfect yet. 00:21:46.065 --> 00:21:47.414 I don't understand, but whatever. 00:21:47.491 --> 00:21:52.327 - I'll get the drinks. - Hey, you got them last time. 00:21:52.404 --> 00:21:53.846 Chardonnay? - Thank you, babe. 00:21:53.922 --> 00:21:58.851 ♪ ♪ 00:21:58.927 --> 00:21:59.926 - Hey. - How you doing? 00:22:00.003 --> 00:22:01.261 - Really good. 00:22:01.338 --> 00:22:03.572 I will have a Moscow mule 00:22:03.582 --> 00:22:06.841 and a chardonnay for my girlfriend. 00:22:06.919 --> 00:22:09.578 - You want me to have someone bring the drinks over 00:22:09.588 --> 00:22:11.697 so you can tell that guy to get lost? 00:22:11.774 --> 00:22:13.607 - No, she wouldn't like that. 00:22:13.683 --> 00:22:15.701 At least, I think she wouldn't. 00:22:15.778 --> 00:22:17.352 [indistinct chatter] 00:22:17.429 --> 00:22:19.854 - Still trying to figure her out? 00:22:19.932 --> 00:22:21.782 - More like my place in it. 00:22:21.858 --> 00:22:25.118 She's a very strong, independent woman. 00:22:25.195 --> 00:22:26.712 It's great, but it can be a little-- 00:22:26.789 --> 00:22:30.031 - Complicated. - Yeah. 00:22:30.109 --> 00:22:31.958 - Come on, let me buy you one drink. 00:22:32.035 --> 00:22:34.052 - I already told you. I am not interested. 00:22:34.129 --> 00:22:36.438 - I bet you like a dirty martini. 00:22:36.448 --> 00:22:37.798 - What I would like is for you to walk away. 00:22:37.874 --> 00:22:40.276 - [chuckles] 00:22:40.286 --> 00:22:43.303 - My boyfriend is sitting there. 00:22:43.380 --> 00:22:46.448 - This guy is your boyfriend? 00:22:46.458 --> 00:22:47.808 Don't seem to mind me sitting here. 00:22:47.884 --> 00:22:50.477 ♪ ♪ 00:22:50.554 --> 00:22:53.146 - Let's just move, okay? 00:22:53.223 --> 00:22:54.556 - No, 'cause this guy's gonna leave. 00:22:54.633 --> 00:22:56.408 - Uh, hey, do you hear her? 00:22:56.485 --> 00:22:57.242 She just asked you to leave, so-- 00:22:57.319 --> 00:22:58.652 - Andrew, it's-- - No, no. 00:22:58.728 --> 00:23:00.061 - Are you serious? - Yeah, I'm serious. 00:23:00.139 --> 00:23:02.798 And if you don't go right now-- 00:23:02.808 --> 00:23:04.416 - You're gonna hit me with your purse? 00:23:04.493 --> 00:23:06.468 ♪ ♪ 00:23:06.478 --> 00:23:09.254 - Yeah, yeah, yeah, I am. Yeah, I am. 00:23:09.331 --> 00:23:12.332 - Hey, whoa, whoa, hey, relax! Relax. 00:23:12.409 --> 00:23:13.142 Don't get your panties in a bunch. 00:23:13.152 --> 00:23:16.478 ♪ ♪ 00:23:16.488 --> 00:23:18.171 - Way to go Carmichael! 00:23:18.248 --> 00:23:20.248 [cheers and applause] 00:23:20.326 --> 00:23:21.650 - Andrew, are you okay? - I'm fine. 00:23:21.660 --> 00:23:25.154 You know, I guess when they said it was a variety show, 00:23:25.164 --> 00:23:27.922 I didn't know they meant that kind of variety. 00:23:28.000 --> 00:23:29.608 - Apparently. 00:23:29.685 --> 00:23:31.351 - Um... 00:23:31.428 --> 00:23:33.445 Wish me luck. - Mm. 00:23:33.522 --> 00:23:34.279 - Break a leg, Andrew. - Thank you. 00:23:34.356 --> 00:23:35.522 - Good luck. 00:23:35.599 --> 00:23:37.765 ♪ ♪ 00:23:37.843 --> 00:23:40.101 - Chardonnay. Are you okay? 00:23:40.179 --> 00:23:42.529 ♪ ♪ 00:23:42.606 --> 00:23:43.771 Cheers. 00:23:43.849 --> 00:23:45.106 - ♪ Baby, I hate 'em too ♪ 00:23:45.184 --> 00:23:47.793 ♪ But you know, but you know, but you know ♪ 00:23:47.870 --> 00:23:49.011 ♪ I'm coming back to you♪ 00:23:49.021 --> 00:23:51.112 - Ooh, that was fun. 00:23:51.190 --> 00:23:52.289 - Yeah, yeah, it was. 00:23:55.527 --> 00:23:56.918 - Are you okay? You seem a little bit off. 00:23:59.698 --> 00:24:00.973 - No, I'm fine. - Come on now. 00:24:04.052 --> 00:24:06.887 I guess I was just thinking about earlier. 00:24:06.963 --> 00:24:08.364 What, that guy? 00:24:08.374 --> 00:24:10.223 Who cares? He was such a jerk. 00:24:10.300 --> 00:24:14.036 - Yeah, I know, I just wish I had done something more 00:24:14.046 --> 00:24:16.538 than just stand there. 00:24:16.548 --> 00:24:17.731 - You did more than just stand there. 00:24:17.807 --> 00:24:19.232 You said we should leave. 00:24:19.309 --> 00:24:20.567 - You know, I wanted to punch that guy, 00:24:20.644 --> 00:24:23.045 but I didn't because I respect you, 00:24:23.055 --> 00:24:24.213 and I know that we've talked about how you like 00:24:24.223 --> 00:24:26.048 to fight your own battles. - I do. 00:24:26.058 --> 00:24:28.483 I do, and I appreciate it. 00:24:28.560 --> 00:24:30.386 And, honestly, what Andrew did was dumb. 00:24:30.396 --> 00:24:32.221 That guy could have had a gun or a knife. 00:24:32.231 --> 00:24:33.288 It was brave, but it was dumb. 00:24:35.825 --> 00:24:36.991 - [chuckles] 00:24:37.069 --> 00:24:41.013 Brave. - What? 00:24:41.089 --> 00:24:42.347 - Oh, just, you said that Andrew's brave, 00:24:42.424 --> 00:24:46.018 which means part of you liked that he hit that guy. 00:24:46.094 --> 00:24:48.336 - Maybe a little. 00:24:48.414 --> 00:24:49.262 - Well, I wish I would've known that. 00:24:49.339 --> 00:24:51.189 It's just-- - Alex, it's fine. 00:24:51.266 --> 00:24:51.857 - No, no, it's not. You don't understand. 00:24:51.934 --> 00:24:53.409 - I'm sorry. 00:24:53.419 --> 00:24:54.693 If you would've asked me hypothetically 00:24:54.770 --> 00:24:57.079 what I would've wanted you to do in that situation, 00:24:57.089 --> 00:24:58.846 I would've said nothing, but being in it 00:24:58.924 --> 00:25:02.943 and seeing how big that guy was and him not leaving-- 00:25:03.019 --> 00:25:05.520 I guess it made me more scared than I wanted to admit. 00:25:05.597 --> 00:25:08.281 I guess it just makes me a hypocrite. 00:25:09.785 --> 00:25:13.861 - No, no, it doesn't make you hypocrite. 00:25:13.939 --> 00:25:17.883 It makes you complicated and frustrating to date, 00:25:17.960 --> 00:25:21.461 but it just makes you human. 00:25:21.538 --> 00:25:23.705 - Yeah, well, I guess it's complicated 00:25:23.782 --> 00:25:25.223 for both of us. 00:25:25.300 --> 00:25:28.134 [tender music] 00:25:28.211 --> 00:25:31.613 ♪ ♪ 00:25:31.623 --> 00:25:33.473 - Bright spot. - Mm-hmm. 00:25:33.550 --> 00:25:34.307 - At least I didn't have to get up on that stage. 00:25:34.384 --> 00:25:37.235 - [chuckles] Good point. 00:25:40.999 --> 00:25:43.575 [soft dramatic music] 00:25:43.652 --> 00:25:49.414 ♪ ♪ 00:25:49.491 --> 00:25:51.083 - I'm sorry. 00:25:51.159 --> 00:25:53.469 I know how much you want this. 00:25:53.479 --> 00:25:55.236 ♪ ♪ 00:25:55.314 --> 00:25:58.873 - I am always the one to make adjustments. 00:26:00.986 --> 00:26:03.479 [chuckles] I followed you to Paris. 00:26:03.489 --> 00:26:05.672 - I didn't ask you to do that. 00:26:05.749 --> 00:26:06.431 - You showed up at my father's funeral 00:26:06.508 --> 00:26:07.507 when I had a girlfriend. 00:26:07.584 --> 00:26:09.818 You knew exactly what you were asking. 00:26:09.828 --> 00:26:10.602 - Wow. 00:26:13.499 --> 00:26:15.682 - I couldn't even buy you a sewing machine 00:26:15.759 --> 00:26:19.019 or do your laundry or pay for dinner. 00:26:19.095 --> 00:26:22.022 God forbid you let me do anything for you. 00:26:22.098 --> 00:26:23.264 - Hey, you're not being fair right now. 00:26:23.342 --> 00:26:25.358 - I'm not being fair? 00:26:25.435 --> 00:26:27.669 We got married, Sutton. 00:26:27.679 --> 00:26:29.362 Usually, not wanting to have kids 00:26:29.439 --> 00:26:31.531 is something you talk about before you get married. 00:26:31.608 --> 00:26:35.677 - I didn't know that I didn't want them, 00:26:35.687 --> 00:26:37.203 and you never said anything about it either. 00:26:37.280 --> 00:26:39.348 - I did. 00:26:39.358 --> 00:26:40.281 The night we had that dinner party 00:26:40.359 --> 00:26:41.683 with Dev and Quinn and Michelle, 00:26:41.693 --> 00:26:43.376 I said, "I want what they have." 00:26:43.453 --> 00:26:44.377 - That was hardly a serious conversation. 00:26:44.454 --> 00:26:47.047 - But I told you that I wanted kids. 00:26:47.123 --> 00:26:48.456 - And I said that I wasn't ready. 00:26:48.534 --> 00:26:52.552 - Which usually means that you will be at some point. 00:26:52.629 --> 00:26:56.198 - We have everything that we could want. 00:26:56.208 --> 00:26:57.699 Right now we have freedom and independence. 00:26:57.709 --> 00:26:58.984 We could travel anywhere we want. 00:26:59.061 --> 00:27:01.728 I'm finally exactly where I want to be in my job. 00:27:01.805 --> 00:27:03.146 - Your job. 00:27:04.900 --> 00:27:06.375 - What does that mean? 00:27:06.385 --> 00:27:10.403 - We have spent so much time talking about your job. 00:27:10.480 --> 00:27:11.880 You wanna be a stylist, then you wanna be a designer, 00:27:11.890 --> 00:27:12.881 now you wanna be a stylist again. 00:27:12.891 --> 00:27:14.383 - What's wrong with that? 00:27:14.393 --> 00:27:16.242 - All we do is talk about your job-- 00:27:16.319 --> 00:27:20.488 What you want, what you need. - Are you serious? 00:27:20.566 --> 00:27:22.824 You actually believe that? - And you don't? 00:27:22.901 --> 00:27:24.584 You get everything you want, Sutton. 00:27:24.661 --> 00:27:25.394 I'm just along for the ride. 00:27:25.404 --> 00:27:27.420 - You're being an ass. 00:27:30.909 --> 00:27:33.569 - I am not trying to be. 00:27:33.579 --> 00:27:36.855 I'm trying to be open with you and honest. 00:27:36.932 --> 00:27:39.507 I wanna have kids with you. 00:27:39.585 --> 00:27:40.525 - I wanna be open and honest with you... 00:27:43.605 --> 00:27:44.854 Which is why I'm telling you that I don't. 00:27:47.642 --> 00:27:48.200 - [sighs] 00:27:57.769 --> 00:28:00.120 I remember the first few nights you spent here. 00:28:00.196 --> 00:28:04.958 You were talking about how much your career meant to you. 00:28:05.034 --> 00:28:08.628 Thought it was so amazing how passionate you were. 00:28:08.705 --> 00:28:09.888 -I felt the same way about you. 00:28:12.784 --> 00:28:15.218 You were so driven. I always loved that about you. 00:28:19.958 --> 00:28:21.733 - I wish that we could go back to those moments. 00:28:21.810 --> 00:28:23.643 - We can. 00:28:23.720 --> 00:28:26.146 Richard... 00:28:26.222 --> 00:28:28.314 Nothing has changed. 00:28:28.391 --> 00:28:30.892 I'm still the girl you fell in love with. 00:28:30.969 --> 00:28:33.987 - I just wish your job wasn't everything. 00:28:34.063 --> 00:28:36.965 - It's not everything. You are. 00:28:36.975 --> 00:28:39.066 - No, I'm not. 00:28:39.144 --> 00:28:42.587 If I was, you would've come to California with me, 00:28:42.664 --> 00:28:44.572 but you chose work. - I didn't choose work. 00:28:44.650 --> 00:28:47.309 I told you how I was feeling, and we compromised. 00:28:47.319 --> 00:28:49.744 - It might have looked like a compromise, 00:28:49.821 --> 00:28:54.099 but it was really just me adjusting again. 00:28:54.176 --> 00:28:55.484 I knew it on our wedding night. 00:28:55.494 --> 00:28:58.603 I knew that I was gonna be the one 00:28:58.680 --> 00:29:00.722 who would always be adjusting. 00:29:03.685 --> 00:29:07.612 But I loved you so much, I was okay with it. 00:29:07.689 --> 00:29:10.666 - I wasn't ready to move in, but you asked me, 00:29:10.676 --> 00:29:13.359 and I love you, so I adjusted. 00:29:13.436 --> 00:29:15.394 And when you said that you wanted to go to San Francisco-- 00:29:15.472 --> 00:29:18.031 - Oh, no. You told me to go. 00:29:18.107 --> 00:29:19.791 You bought my damn ticket. 00:29:19.868 --> 00:29:21.534 - Yes, I did, because I support you! 00:29:21.611 --> 00:29:23.011 That was me adjusting again! 00:29:23.021 --> 00:29:27.516 I didn't want you to move 3,000 miles away from me. 00:29:27.526 --> 00:29:30.018 - That was for a job that I can't do here. 00:29:30.028 --> 00:29:32.354 - So we can adjust for your job, 00:29:32.364 --> 00:29:35.190 but not mine 'cause yours is more important? 00:29:35.200 --> 00:29:36.308 - I never said it's more important. 00:29:36.384 --> 00:29:37.300 - You didn't have to. 00:29:40.539 --> 00:29:42.864 And then you proposed. - Was that an adjustment? 00:29:42.874 --> 00:29:43.865 Because you seemed pretty happy about it. 00:29:43.875 --> 00:29:45.967 - I was. 00:29:46.044 --> 00:29:47.986 But it was fast. - Not for me it wasn't. 00:29:48.063 --> 00:29:50.230 Then again, 00:29:50.306 --> 00:29:52.807 I was 41, you were 26, 00:29:52.884 --> 00:29:55.660 and that is a very big difference 00:29:55.737 --> 00:29:56.828 in maturity and perspective. 00:29:56.905 --> 00:29:58.714 - I'm not gonna apologize for being 26. 00:29:58.724 --> 00:30:00.549 - I'm not asking you to. 00:30:00.559 --> 00:30:02.909 I am just saying that maybe 00:30:02.986 --> 00:30:03.985 we are at much different stages than we thought. 00:30:04.062 --> 00:30:06.388 - When you were 26, 00:30:06.398 --> 00:30:09.224 you got to put your career first. 00:30:09.234 --> 00:30:10.157 I don't think there's anything wrong 00:30:10.235 --> 00:30:11.676 with me wanting the same thing. 00:30:11.753 --> 00:30:13.086 - I am letting you put your career first. 00:30:13.162 --> 00:30:14.629 I froze my sperm, remember? 00:30:17.409 --> 00:30:19.425 Everything up until this point was good, 00:30:19.502 --> 00:30:21.427 but now you don't want kids ever, right? 00:30:21.504 --> 00:30:23.739 That's what you said? 00:30:23.749 --> 00:30:24.856 So this isn't about prioritizing your career 00:30:24.933 --> 00:30:27.025 in your 20s. 00:30:27.102 --> 00:30:31.012 This is a life decision that you made 00:30:31.089 --> 00:30:34.023 on your own without me about my life! 00:30:44.770 --> 00:30:46.094 - I'm sorry. 00:30:46.104 --> 00:30:49.547 I don't know why I feel this way 00:30:49.624 --> 00:30:52.792 about having kids...but I do. 00:30:54.279 --> 00:30:56.004 And I can't lie to you. 00:30:59.451 --> 00:31:01.301 I made a vow to never lie to you. 00:31:08.126 --> 00:31:09.225 - I want to be a father... 00:31:12.388 --> 00:31:14.188 And you are asking me to give that up? 00:31:17.319 --> 00:31:21.129 - I don't wanna take that away from you. 00:31:21.139 --> 00:31:22.964 But if I have a kid, and I don't wanna raise it-- 00:31:22.974 --> 00:31:25.300 - We'll have a nanny and a night nurse, 00:31:25.310 --> 00:31:28.086 and you can go to work whenever you want. 00:31:28.163 --> 00:31:29.805 And I'll do the bath time, the bedtime, 00:31:29.815 --> 00:31:31.139 the early mornings-- I'll do it all. 00:31:31.149 --> 00:31:32.073 - That would make you happy? 00:31:32.150 --> 00:31:34.408 - Yeah. 00:31:34.486 --> 00:31:37.837 - I'd be a terrible mother. 00:31:37.914 --> 00:31:39.172 - No, you wouldn't be a terrible mother. 00:31:45.497 --> 00:31:46.929 - I'm pretty sure I would be. 00:31:54.597 --> 00:31:55.521 - So... 00:31:57.843 --> 00:31:59.767 Either way... 00:31:59.845 --> 00:32:02.454 One of us loses. 00:32:02.530 --> 00:32:04.840 [D'arcy Spiller's "Cry All Night"] 00:32:04.850 --> 00:32:06.791 ♪ ♪ 00:32:06.868 --> 00:32:08.626 - I'm just so sick of it being me. 00:32:08.703 --> 00:32:11.129 ♪ ♪ 00:32:11.206 --> 00:32:13.447 - ♪ Sleep till the afternoon ♪ 00:32:13.525 --> 00:32:15.875 - Richard-- - I'm going to bed. 00:32:15.952 --> 00:32:17.618 - ♪ Awake at night ♪ 00:32:17.696 --> 00:32:20.213 ♪ ♪ 00:32:20.289 --> 00:32:24.309 ♪ Something is calling you ♪ 00:32:24.386 --> 00:32:28.462 ♪ To come and find it ♪ 00:32:28.540 --> 00:32:32.484 ♪ Cry all night ♪ 00:32:32.560 --> 00:32:35.653 ♪ Share a love or two in the day ♪ 00:32:35.730 --> 00:32:39.824 ♪ ♪ 00:32:39.901 --> 00:32:43.161 ♪ Your place is calling ♪ 00:32:43.238 --> 00:32:45.905 ♪ ♪ 00:32:45.982 --> 00:32:49.409 ♪ You should be on your way ♪ 00:32:49.485 --> 00:32:53.054 ♪ ♪ 00:32:53.064 --> 00:32:57.083 ♪ Wonders of dreaming world ♪ 00:32:57.160 --> 00:32:59.493 ♪ Comfort of a fire ♪ 00:32:59.571 --> 00:33:03.330 ♪ ♪ 00:33:03.408 --> 00:33:04.733 ♪ Sound of the rain battering down ♪ 00:33:04.743 --> 00:33:06.426 - Hi. 00:33:06.502 --> 00:33:09.354 ♪ ♪ 00:33:09.431 --> 00:33:11.431 - I have a couple meetings. I'll be back later. 00:33:11.507 --> 00:33:13.507 ♪ ♪ 00:33:13.585 --> 00:33:17.529 - ♪ Cry all night ♪ 00:33:17.605 --> 00:33:19.772 [phone vibrates] 00:33:19.849 --> 00:33:20.916 ♪ Share a love or two in the day ♪ 00:33:20.926 --> 00:33:25.778 ♪ ♪ 00:33:25.855 --> 00:33:28.614 ♪ Na, na, na, na, na ♪ 00:33:28.691 --> 00:33:31.259 ♪ ♪ 00:33:31.269 --> 00:33:33.953 ♪ Na, na, na, na, na, na ♪ 00:33:34.030 --> 00:33:37.031 ♪ ♪ 00:33:37.108 --> 00:33:40.218 ♪ Na, na, na ♪ 00:33:40.295 --> 00:33:43.204 ♪ ♪ 00:33:43.281 --> 00:33:45.965 ♪ Na, na, na, na ♪ 00:33:50.972 --> 00:33:52.472 [melancholic pop music] 00:33:52.548 --> 00:33:54.140 - ♪ Pictures of the old dust got me feeling older ♪ 00:33:54.217 --> 00:33:59.070 ♪ ♪ 00:33:59.147 --> 00:34:01.623 ♪ Just thought you should know I never wanted closure ♪ 00:34:01.633 --> 00:34:04.626 ♪ ♪ 00:34:04.636 --> 00:34:08.729 ♪ But you had no problem leaving ♪ 00:34:08.807 --> 00:34:11.299 ♪ ♪ 00:34:11.309 --> 00:34:12.968 - You look like you could use a drink. 00:34:12.978 --> 00:34:15.136 - Yeah. 00:34:15.146 --> 00:34:17.422 - ♪ To feel it ♪ 00:34:17.499 --> 00:34:19.073 ♪ ♪ 00:34:19.150 --> 00:34:21.909 - Hi. Oh, my gosh. 00:34:21.987 --> 00:34:23.169 - Thank you so much for meeting me. 00:34:23.246 --> 00:34:27.765 - Oh, of course. What happened? 00:34:27.842 --> 00:34:30.318 - ♪ Picking up the pieces, you just want to leave 'em ♪ 00:34:30.328 --> 00:34:33.771 ♪ Killing me a little bit ♪ 00:34:33.848 --> 00:34:36.107 - Sutton doesn't want to have kids. 00:34:36.184 --> 00:34:38.493 - What? Is she sure? 00:34:38.503 --> 00:34:40.278 She has her whole life ahead of her. 00:34:40.355 --> 00:34:42.522 ♪ ♪ 00:34:42.598 --> 00:34:45.617 - I don't have my whole life in front of me 00:34:45.693 --> 00:34:47.785 to roll the dice hoping she changes her mind. 00:34:47.862 --> 00:34:50.771 - Oh, gosh, totally get it. 00:34:50.849 --> 00:34:54.792 - My dad wasn't the best dad. 00:34:54.869 --> 00:34:58.296 He was detached and uninvolved, and... 00:34:58.373 --> 00:35:01.207 I remember what that felt like. 00:35:01.284 --> 00:35:05.786 And I wanted a chance to do it right for my kid. 00:35:05.864 --> 00:35:08.548 I wanted to show my kid 00:35:08.624 --> 00:35:15.296 that Hunters could be strong and open at the same time. 00:35:15.373 --> 00:35:18.650 And I wanted to show my kid a good marriage too, 00:35:18.726 --> 00:35:20.634 'cause my parents rarely, 00:35:20.712 --> 00:35:22.037 if ever, opened up to each other, 00:35:22.047 --> 00:35:26.991 and Sutton and I are-- we're the opposite of that. 00:35:27.068 --> 00:35:30.144 At least, I thought we were. 00:35:30.221 --> 00:35:32.830 - What are you gonna do? 00:35:32.907 --> 00:35:34.549 - I don't know. 00:35:34.559 --> 00:35:37.743 I was hoping, maybe, you could help me figure it out. 00:35:37.820 --> 00:35:39.820 - ♪ I'd be your friend ♪ 00:35:39.898 --> 00:35:43.391 - It was our first real fight. 00:35:43.401 --> 00:35:43.991 - And you've been married four months? 00:35:44.069 --> 00:35:45.751 That's pretty good. 00:35:45.828 --> 00:35:47.828 - We made up for it. 00:35:47.906 --> 00:35:51.257 It was bad. 00:35:51.334 --> 00:35:53.500 I thought we were better than that. 00:35:53.578 --> 00:35:56.187 - Yeah, well, love is messy, 00:35:56.264 --> 00:35:59.357 and that's what makes it great, you know? 00:35:59.434 --> 00:36:00.933 There isn't one right way. 00:36:03.938 --> 00:36:05.697 There are all kinds of love-- 00:36:05.773 --> 00:36:09.283 forbidden love, first love. 00:36:09.293 --> 00:36:10.535 - I wish I could. 00:36:10.612 --> 00:36:11.944 [soft dramatic music] 00:36:12.021 --> 00:36:14.947 But you know I can't tell you what is right for you. 00:36:15.024 --> 00:36:20.027 ♪ ♪ 00:36:20.105 --> 00:36:22.931 - [sighs] We didn't listen to each other. 00:36:22.941 --> 00:36:24.882 - What do you mean? 00:36:24.959 --> 00:36:28.720 - She knew that I wanted to have kids. 00:36:28.796 --> 00:36:31.389 Even before we were engaged, I told her. 00:36:31.466 --> 00:36:35.209 And she told me that she was nowhere close, 00:36:35.286 --> 00:36:39.546 but we just swept it aside 00:36:39.624 --> 00:36:40.806 and pretended like there wasn't a problem. 00:36:40.883 --> 00:36:43.401 - Hm. 00:36:43.478 --> 00:36:46.887 - But there is because I want kids, 00:36:46.965 --> 00:36:51.909 and now I have to decide which one I want more-- 00:36:51.986 --> 00:36:57.564 kids or Sutton. 00:36:57.642 --> 00:36:59.584 - People say horrible things all the time. 00:36:59.661 --> 00:37:01.753 Then they find a way to move on. 00:37:01.829 --> 00:37:03.162 You said he always comes around, right? 00:37:03.239 --> 00:37:04.664 - Yeah, I did. 00:37:04.740 --> 00:37:07.759 - Well, he's probably at home waiting for you right now. 00:37:07.835 --> 00:37:09.910 - I hope you're right. 00:37:09.988 --> 00:37:12.096 I'm gonna go find out. 00:37:12.173 --> 00:37:14.006 [MILCK's "Ready"] 00:37:14.083 --> 00:37:15.749 - ♪ I'm not waiting for you ♪ 00:37:15.827 --> 00:37:18.177 ♪ To come knock on my door ♪ 00:37:18.254 --> 00:37:20.921 ♪ That's what I used to do ♪ 00:37:20.999 --> 00:37:23.658 ♪ When my heart wasn't sure ♪ 00:37:23.668 --> 00:37:26.352 ♪ 'Cause I don't like feeling exposed ♪ 00:37:26.429 --> 00:37:28.329 ♪ Or out of control ♪ 00:37:28.339 --> 00:37:30.448 ♪ But I want you to know ♪ 00:37:30.525 --> 00:37:33.668 ♪ I want you to know ♪ 00:37:33.678 --> 00:37:36.671 ♪ When you're ready for the freefall ♪ 00:37:36.681 --> 00:37:39.957 ♪ Ready to get vulnerable ♪ 00:37:40.034 --> 00:37:42.776 - How was Richard? 00:37:42.854 --> 00:37:44.945 - ♪ I'm ready ♪ 00:37:45.023 --> 00:37:45.847 ♪ When you want those Sunday mornings ♪ 00:37:45.857 --> 00:37:49.542 - You were right. 00:37:49.618 --> 00:37:51.019 I do have trouble taking advice from you. 00:37:51.029 --> 00:37:53.971 - ♪ You're the only one makes me think ♪ 00:37:54.048 --> 00:37:55.047 ♪ I'm ready ♪ 00:37:55.124 --> 00:37:57.192 - And maybe that's because... 00:37:57.202 --> 00:37:59.194 ♪ ♪ 00:37:59.204 --> 00:38:02.980 I don't want to give up control, 00:38:03.057 --> 00:38:07.035 and I need to work on that. 00:38:07.045 --> 00:38:11.039 Or maybe it's because... 00:38:11.049 --> 00:38:14.567 being wrong makes me feel... 00:38:14.643 --> 00:38:16.828 vulnerable. 00:38:16.904 --> 00:38:20.981 - ♪ When you're ready for the freefall ♪ 00:38:21.059 --> 00:38:23.668 - It is never because I don't respect your opinion. 00:38:23.745 --> 00:38:27.821 ♪ ♪ 00:38:27.899 --> 00:38:31.158 I wanna play tennis with you every week. 00:38:31.236 --> 00:38:34.661 No matter what. 00:38:34.739 --> 00:38:36.589 And if you don't feel heard, you need to tell me. 00:38:36.665 --> 00:38:38.165 ♪ ♪ 00:38:38.243 --> 00:38:39.684 - Okay. 00:38:39.761 --> 00:38:41.519 ♪ ♪ 00:38:41.596 --> 00:38:43.929 - And next month, 00:38:44.006 --> 00:38:46.098 I wanna go on that trip to Iceland 00:38:46.175 --> 00:38:47.841 we've been trying to go on for ten years. 00:38:47.919 --> 00:38:51.529 - Well, you say that now, but then work gets in the way. 00:38:51.606 --> 00:38:54.848 - It won't. 00:38:54.926 --> 00:38:57.752 I promise. 00:38:57.762 --> 00:39:03.282 ♪ ♪ 00:39:03.359 --> 00:39:04.542 [Kathleen's "Half My Mind Ago"] 00:39:04.619 --> 00:39:08.429 - ♪ Half my mind ago ♪ 00:39:08.439 --> 00:39:11.549 ♪ I thought I knew everything ♪ 00:39:11.626 --> 00:39:12.934 - Richard? 00:39:12.944 --> 00:39:18.372 - ♪ There's something about how you ♪ 00:39:18.449 --> 00:39:21.109 - Sutton... 00:39:21.119 --> 00:39:23.043 I'm so sorry. - I'm so sorry. 00:39:23.121 --> 00:39:24.896 - ♪ Give me just a minute ♪ 00:39:24.972 --> 00:39:27.473 ♪ Let me relearn how to breathe ♪ 00:39:27.550 --> 00:39:29.233 ♪ ♪ 00:39:29.310 --> 00:39:33.121 ♪ Why can't you let me ♪ 00:39:33.131 --> 00:39:36.557 ♪ Go gently? ♪ 00:39:36.634 --> 00:39:39.276 ♪ ♪ 00:39:39.353 --> 00:39:41.061 ♪ You're loud as an alarm clock ♪ 00:39:41.139 --> 00:39:43.298 ♪ Pullin' me out of a dream ♪ 00:39:43.308 --> 00:39:45.232 ♪ ♪ 00:39:45.310 --> 00:39:49.086 ♪ You fixed the game ♪ 00:39:49.163 --> 00:39:51.572 ♪ So you stopped playing ♪ 00:39:51.649 --> 00:39:53.332 ♪ ♪ 00:39:53.409 --> 00:39:55.143 ♪ Just tell me ♪ 00:39:55.153 --> 00:39:59.263 ♪ What you really want ♪ 00:39:59.340 --> 00:40:01.415 ♪ ♪ 00:40:01.492 --> 00:40:04.435 ♪ Oh, and I know ♪ 00:40:04.512 --> 00:40:08.389 ♪ You feel the same ♪ 00:40:10.335 --> 00:40:13.018 ♪ Half my mind ago ♪ 00:40:13.095 --> 00:40:16.430 [phone ringing] 00:40:16.507 --> 00:40:18.432 ♪ I thought I knew everything ♪ 00:40:18.509 --> 00:40:19.834 - Do you need to get that? 00:40:19.844 --> 00:40:22.453 - Um... 00:40:22.530 --> 00:40:25.840 Yeah, I really do. 00:40:25.850 --> 00:40:27.533 - Okay. 00:40:27.610 --> 00:40:30.611 - Jane, 00:40:30.688 --> 00:40:33.181 I didn't expect to feel this way. 00:40:33.191 --> 00:40:36.634 I know it's not ideal, 00:40:36.711 --> 00:40:38.878 and I probably shouldn't be saying it, 00:40:38.954 --> 00:40:43.024 but if you feel the same way-- 00:40:43.034 --> 00:40:46.552 [phone vibrates] 00:40:46.629 --> 00:40:48.363 - I have to take this. 00:40:48.373 --> 00:40:50.631 ♪ ♪ 00:40:50.708 --> 00:40:52.633 [phone vibrates] 00:40:52.710 --> 00:40:55.152 - ♪ It isn't much of anything ♪ 00:40:55.229 --> 00:40:56.562 - Hi, Sutton, are you okay? 00:40:56.639 --> 00:40:58.805 - Hey, what's going on? 00:40:58.883 --> 00:41:00.807 - I need you. 00:41:00.885 --> 00:41:03.477 ♪ ♪ 00:41:03.554 --> 00:41:07.573 - ♪ I thought I knew everything ♪ 00:41:07.650 --> 00:41:10.817 ♪ ♪ 00:41:10.895 --> 00:41:11.719 ♪ How far have I come? ♪ 00:41:11.729 --> 00:41:15.322 - Richard left me. 00:41:15.400 --> 00:41:17.892 [sobbing] 00:41:17.902 --> 00:41:19.660 - ♪ It isn't much of anything ♪ 00:41:19.737 --> 00:41:55.504 ♪ ♪60326

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